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| 00:03.08 | Legorol | wow, this is a first: queuing time for a tank! |
| 00:03.11 | Legorol | it's actually 4 minutes |
| 00:03.18 | Legorol | that's for the Coren Direbrew seasonal event |
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| 00:03.30 | Legorol | I guess so many people are doing it, the servers can't support enough instances to cover all the tanks |
| 00:11.53 | Adys | http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2010/09/confessions-conjuror-2/ |
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| 00:18.44 | ccox | When your antibiotic has a list of side effects including the very things that it is supposed to be curing... that can't be a good thing. |
| 00:19.20 | Lunessa | ccox: The cure is worse than the disease? |
| 00:19.32 | ccox | Lunessa - don't know yet, give it a few days :-) |
| 00:20.04 | Jerub | Legorol: there's must-have tanking trinkets in brewfest |
| 00:20.35 | Lunessa | One of the things I almost always suffer after a course of antibiotics is gastrointestinal 'distress' - because they generally kill all the bacteria I want to keep as well as the ones I want to kill. |
| 00:20.57 | alestane | Yoghurt and probiotic pills often help with that. |
| 00:21.03 | Lunessa | Yup. |
| 00:21.19 | Lunessa | Good thing I like yogurt. |
| 00:21.20 | ccox | yep |
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| 00:52.32 | Wobin | Adys: Derren Brown appears to enjoy posing like Warren Ellis =P |
| 00:52.58 | Adys | :P |
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| 01:05.02 | Jerub | http://i.imgur.com/yLHEV.jpg |
| 01:05.49 | TMcMahon51 | Thats how the pros use them. |
| 01:07.21 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: got a bulltrue with the fucking pistol |
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| 01:18.14 | Dagmar | ThemeRoller is full of win. That is all. |
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| 01:22.05 | Shirik | :/ |
| 01:22.06 | Shirik | wat |
| 01:22.17 | Shirik | git: 'long' is not a git command. See 'git --help'. |
| 01:22.17 | Shirik | Did you mean this? |
| 01:22.17 | Shirik | clone |
| 01:22.22 | Shirik | how the hell does it get clone from long |
| 01:25.19 | SqueeG | c lon e : lon g |
| 01:25.38 | Dagmar | Looks like the 'c' and 'e' are having a tussle |
| 01:25.45 | SqueeG | lol |
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| 01:26.46 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: either we do coop soon or i go watch Chuck |
| 01:27.01 | Dagmar | Is that back on already |
| 01:27.10 | Arrowmaster | yes im downloading it now |
| 01:27.26 | Dagmar | I thought they'd jumped a few sharks there |
| 01:27.58 | Arrowmaster | they kinda did but we'll see with the new season |
| 01:28.20 | Arrowmaster | they ended it with him in the old houses basement and something with his mom |
| 01:28.28 | Dagmar | Crap. I need to get a rerun set up on my myth box |
| 01:28.28 | airtonix | kinky |
| 01:29.08 | Arrowmaster | by basement i mean super secret spy lab |
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| 01:29.20 | airtonix | by kiknky i mean kinky |
| 01:29.28 | airtonix | and all that other stuff |
| 01:29.28 | bluspacecow | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2978624/61771_1298477464533_1308271254_31421742_2238015_n.jpg |
| 01:29.34 | Jerub | weekly ticked over to being XT today. |
| 01:29.45 | Jerub | best FL run ever today. the bikes were pulling everything and we mowed it down |
| 01:30.16 | airtonix | bluspacecow, i give it two days before some redecorates it with a black marker |
| 01:30.26 | Jerub | and we got the dwarfageddon, nerf engineering and must deconstruct faster. :) |
| 01:30.28 | airtonix | maybe four hours |
| 01:45.22 | Wobin | huzzah, 11/12 |
| 01:46.12 | Jerub | Wobin: 10 or 25? |
| 01:46.25 | Jerub | Wobin: i got 11/12 on 10 last week. was super happy :D |
| 01:46.26 | Wobin | 10 |
| 01:46.34 | Wobin | we've been bashing our heads against sindy for a bit |
| 01:46.39 | Jerub | pugged up a 25 lsat night iwth a singaporean guild and got 8/12 |
| 01:46.51 | Jerub | Wobin: what was happening that caused a problem on sindy? |
| 01:46.57 | Wobin | third phase |
| 01:47.05 | Kraps | you guys heard about "the event"? |
| 01:47.12 | Wobin | people weren't either killing tombs fast enough |
| 01:47.16 | Wobin | or moving away fast enough |
| 01:47.24 | Jerub | Wobin: man, killing tombs is the /easy/ part. |
| 01:47.28 | Wobin | Kraps: which event? |
| 01:47.37 | Kraps | on NBC! |
| 01:47.38 | Wobin | Jerub: yeah, more the latter |
| 01:47.46 | Wobin | Kraps: oh, a crazy american thing |
| 01:48.08 | Wobin | Jerub: cause the latter causes the former to spiral out of control =P |
| 01:48.14 | Kraps | the ads say its like "24 and lost had a baby" |
| 01:48.27 | Wobin | Kraps: that sounds enticing... not |
| 01:48.40 | Dagmar | I've _tried_ to look into that show |
| 01:48.46 | Wobin | because it means if you miss even one minute of it, YOU'LL NEVER CATCH UP |
| 01:49.01 | Dagmar | I'm not sure you can even call what they've released on it a "teaser" because aside from a few actors, I've STILL no idea what it's about |
| 01:49.03 | Wobin | EVER =P |
| 01:49.18 | Shirik | Git pros: If I try to alter a committed log entry in git, does it totally screw up the repository (note it's already been pushed to a remote, so it's "in the wild") |
| 01:49.32 | Dagmar | It could be a new Country Music song that causes spontaneous ocular hemmorhaging for all I can tell |
| 01:49.58 | Kraps | " I've STILL no idea what it's about" thats the point "p |
| 01:50.12 | Dagmar | Shirik: Wait, you mean if you tamper with already committed entries, will bad things happen? |
| 01:50.18 | Wobin | it's kinda sad |
| 01:50.25 | Shirik | yes I know there's a command for it |
| 01:50.28 | Dagmar | Kraps: Generally you know _something_ |
| 01:50.30 | Wobin | that people have to promote a TV show, by not telling -anyone- about it |
| 01:50.40 | Shirik | but the question is how everyone downstream will be affected |
| 01:50.41 | Wobin | Is the story and premise -not enough-? |
| 01:50.50 | Kraps | IT WILL BLOW YOUR MINDDDDDDDDDDD |
| 01:50.54 | Dagmar | It's definitely failing to pique my interest with the total lack of information |
| 01:51.06 | Dagmar | ...but then I don't watch TV as compulsively as most people. |
| 01:51.15 | Wobin | is the TV show not good enough to hold people's interest by itself? |
| 01:51.22 | Dagmar | Probably. |
| 01:51.37 | Dagmar | What I've seen of it can be summed up in two words "Something happened." |
| 01:51.40 | Wobin | they have to depend on stupid viral 'tricks' to keep audience |
| 01:51.45 | Dagmar | That we get from the name of the show. |
| 01:51.56 | Wobin | Dagmar: yeah, that occurs when I take a dump |
| 01:51.59 | Dagmar | Shit happens all the time. No need to make a TV show about it |
| 01:52.02 | Wobin | doesn't mean I want to watch |
| 01:52.45 | Wobin | if it's "Something Happens While Hurtling At Top Speed Down A Mountainside In Front Of An Avalanche" |
| 01:52.51 | Wobin | then it makes taking a dump far more interesting |
| 01:58.25 | Kraps | "His most iconic enemy is the Joker, a clown that finds humor in death, so really your average internet addict." |
| 01:59.10 | Dagmar | Lunessa: WRT to antibiotics, you're always welcome to try my approach. Keeping yourself so full of artificial chemicals and poisons that the only living thing inside you is you. |
| 01:59.19 | Dagmar | Maybe that's not for everybody tho |
| 02:00.25 | Wobin | Dagmar: are you sure of that? |
| 02:00.31 | Wobin | How do we know you're really Dagmar |
| 02:00.40 | Wobin | and not some artificially mutated life form |
| 02:00.46 | Wobin | that's taken over Dagmar's body |
| 02:01.07 | Dagmar | Mostly contiguous memory segments. |
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| 02:01.33 | Dagmar | ...and the bank's still comforted by my occasional signature. |
| 02:01.46 | Dagmar | Plus, I'm the one with all my passwords, and that's mainly what matters anyway |
| 02:01.51 | Wobin | Dagmar: those can be cloned |
| 02:02.13 | Wobin | although, how do you -know- that the contiguous memories aren't implanted? |
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| 02:02.46 | Dagmar | The voices never shut up. |
| 02:03.05 | Dagmar | ...and I'm the only one who can hear them, so how's someone going to fake those... answer that one! |
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| 02:07.53 | Wobin | Dagmar: "Ponies" |
| 02:08.38 | Dagmar | god my mouth |
| 02:09.05 | Dagmar | I finally found some CSS stuff I was looking for and commented to myself "Aha, now _that's_ the porn I've been looking for." |
| 02:09.34 | Dagmar | $co-worker overheard, demanded an explanation of why I'm browing porn at work |
| 02:11.34 | Thunder_Child | co-workers should not be 'demanding' anything |
| 02:11.50 | Trela | Dagmar: I am the office turrets guy. :P It happens. |
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| 02:19.04 | SqueeG | office turrets? |
| 02:19.06 | Lunessa | Dagmar: That's why I'm full of booze and pills. |
| 02:19.06 | SqueeG | missles? |
| 02:19.42 | ckknight | tourettes != turrets |
| 02:19.43 | ckknight | pew pew |
| 02:19.55 | ckknight | interesting read: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/09/20/one-on-one-keiji-inafune-game-designer/ |
| 02:20.05 | airtonix | Dagmar, tell HER because if you don't you are more likely to bring in a fully automatic rifle to play with |
| 02:20.37 | airtonix | or you could just say because i like ropes |
| 02:21.17 | ckknight | airtonix: how would liking ropes even come up, properly? |
| 02:21.34 | airtonix | holding stuff in place ? |
| 02:22.02 | awweaver | Why is an Obsidium bar Bind when Equipped? |
| 02:23.52 | Lunessa | LOL - "johncusack: Just a thought -- women should read you your Miranda rights before you start a conversation" |
| 02:24.00 | awweaver | Gottas love the eng portal... |
| 02:24.37 | ZorbaTHut | awweaver, I'm assuming that's a bug |
| 02:24.51 | ZorbaTHut | where's the new eng portal? |
| 02:25.04 | awweaver | Not new, the Dimension Folding Device... |
| 02:25.13 | awweaver | Wormhole Generator |
| 02:25.17 | ZorbaTHut | oh, I thought you'd found a Cataclysm equiavlent |
| 02:25.24 | awweaver | nope... |
| 02:25.29 | awweaver | ive had it forever.. |
| 02:25.36 | ZorbaTHut | yeah it's pretty sweet |
| 02:26.05 | awweaver | Yay the horde has WG on the beta |
| 02:26.26 | awweaver | What i really want is the bike...sadly though i dont have the gold... |
| 02:26.51 | awweaver | Now taking Donations, send them on the beta servers to Ossarbones |
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| 02:27.48 | Dagmar | s/stuff/people/ |
| 02:27.50 | awweaver | send gole... |
| 02:27.56 | awweaver | gold |
| 02:30.07 | awweaver | Did i kill chat? |
| 02:30.11 | Wobin | yes |
| 02:31.10 | awweaver | "/res |
| 02:32.02 | awweaver | LOL the Eng Supplies Vendoir in dal ont he beta has 608 Titanium Tool Box Recpes |
| 02:32.26 | awweaver | cloesd and reoped, 612.. |
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| 02:32.54 | Gitt | hey guys, is there currently any documentation for ui code changes in 4.0 and cata? |
| 02:32.55 | Dagmar | They're just trying to make sure the recipe scalpers have enough to do. |
| 02:33.05 | Gitt | having issues w/ usage of 'this' |
| 02:33.43 | Gitt | for example... this:RegisterEvent |
| 02:34.05 | Dagmar | Sounds like a coding problem |
| 02:34.16 | Gitt | Dagmar: works fine on live |
| 02:34.33 | Gitt | has been for years |
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| 02:34.37 | ccox | wow,, Cataclysm doesn't seem to have any shortage of leather/scraps |
| 02:35.10 | Thunder_Child | man i want to call in sick tomorrow |
| 02:35.56 | awweaver | Where can i find the new traiuner for 525 eng? |
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| 02:40.00 | Yssaril | Gitt: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26560499864&sid=2000 |
| 02:40.13 | Gitt | Yssaril: thanks |
| 02:40.35 | Yssaril | Gitt: check out the second list under CORE FEATURES |
| 02:40.39 | Kraps | why cant i find 22 gauge 22 conductor wire on google shopping? |
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| 02:41.15 | awweaver | Wish me luck on my trip into the MaelStorm |
| 02:41.17 | Gitt | Yssaril: crap... looks like I have my work cut out for me |
| 02:41.35 | Yssaril | Gitt: fyi you should have fixed it years ago :P |
| 02:41.43 | Gitt | Yssaril: tell that to Thott |
| 02:42.33 | Gitt | his code... my problem now |
| 02:42.46 | Gitt | I feel like I should start from scratch, but it's such a mess I don't even know where to start |
| 02:43.27 | Yssaril | Gitt: open folder, ctrl+a, hit delete, confirm |
| 02:43.32 | Gitt | heh |
| 02:43.53 | Gitt | pretty sure I don't get a paycheck that way |
| 02:44.07 | Yssaril | :P |
| 02:44.24 | ajmitch | it's called refactoring |
| 02:45.26 | Gitt | wtb dump_to_object function... that should cover the entire addon |
| 02:47.14 | Dagmar | hands you an off-the-shelf marshaller function. |
| 02:47.42 | Dagmar | Kraps: Look for the word "stranded" |
| 02:48.31 | Mikk | "* The global variables this, event and arg1[b], [b]arg2... have been removed." <- this is going to speed up WoW events considerably fwiw |
| 02:48.35 | Dagmar | Kraps: Unless, of course, you're looking for 24 individual connections of that size, in which case you just need to stop whining and go to Digikey or some kinda insane wire vendor |
| 02:49.07 | Kraps | its my brother |
| 02:49.19 | Dagmar | ...or just run three pieces of cat-5 and call it a day |
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| 02:49.46 | Dagmar | Kraps: Does he need one conductor or 22 of them? |
| 02:50.04 | Dagmar | You don't generally find wires that thin bundled together like that outside of telco stuff |
| 02:50.59 | Mikk | i'm with the 3xcat5 |
| 02:51.32 | Dagmar | The cat5 is bound to be cheaper |
| 02:52.22 | Kraps | Dagmar: he works in teleco |
| 02:52.51 | airtonix | tell him to borrow the cable |
| 02:53.03 | Dagmar | Tell him to man up and call procurement or just find some old cat cable |
| 02:53.11 | Mikk | i still want to know what a sane use of 22 gauge cable is outside of telcos |
| 02:53.22 | airtonix | world domination |
| 02:53.30 | Dagmar | Mikk: From the look of it, battery leads on my bike |
| 02:53.35 | Mikk | blinks |
| 02:53.45 | Dagmar | Seriously I've owned toy walkie talkies with more durable looking battery connections |
| 02:53.46 | Mikk | xmas tree bike? =P |
| 02:53.48 | airtonix | world domination with battery leads to bikes |
| 02:53.56 | Dagmar | No, 125cc scooter actually |
| 02:54.03 | airtonix | world domination with battery leads to scooters |
| 02:54.55 | Dagmar | I have since replaced those particularly terrifyng leads with something more robust |
| 02:55.12 | Dagmar | I mean, it's a 12v system with a 7a fuse on it, but still |
| 02:55.15 | Kraps | Dagmar: he says mixing and matching is bad |
| 02:55.16 | airtonix | three phase power cables ? |
| 02:55.51 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar has a vespa |
| 02:56.00 | Dagmar | Oh hell no I don't |
| 02:56.27 | Dagmar | Kraps: So make sure you find him three old cat-5 cables that are all the same color. ;) |
| 02:56.31 | Arrowmaster | i want an 848 |
| 02:58.21 | Dagmar | Kraps: There generally shouldn't be anything wrong with using three pieces of cat-5 for that unless there's some shielding requirement he's not revealing |
| 02:58.22 | airtonix | http://plixi.com/p/46221918 |
| 02:58.38 | Kraps | "there's some shielding requirement" |
| 02:59.29 | Dagmar | Right, so tell him to do his own parts ordering then. ;) |
| 02:59.58 | Dagmar | Or go somewhere like http://www.newark.com/cable-multiconductor |
| 03:00.16 | Kraps | wow |
| 03:01.49 | Dagmar | Note that this shit is NOT CHEAP |
| 03:02.14 | Kraps | the 22 conductor filter has no results :p |
| 03:02.22 | Dagmar | http://www.alliedelec.com/cable/multiconductor/?dsNav=N%3a4294882968-4294887199 |
| 03:02.37 | Dagmar | There's quite a lot of wiring places online. The magic words are 'multi-conductor cable' |
| 03:03.39 | Arrowmaster | wow they make 20 gauge wire rated for 6000V |
| 03:03.49 | Dagmar | ...at very low amps |
| 03:04.08 | Arrowmaster | i see nothing about amps listed here |
| 03:04.46 | Arrowmaster | and its $6500 for a spool of 1000 (feet im guessing) |
| 03:04.48 | Dagmar | Give it 6kv at 15A and just see what happens then |
| 03:05.01 | Dagmar | Have a fire extinguisher handy. |
| 03:06.36 | Dagmar | kraps: Belden.com looks like they actually have it. Usually when we have to order that sort of thing tho it either a) comes out of a very specialized printed catalog here which is what amounts to Wire Porno Monthly, or we call someone and say "We want X. How much?". They say "Lots" to which we reply "Not our money anyway. Send it." |
| 03:08.19 | Arrowmaster | that site cheats, they sell pre-terminated fiber, thats no fun |
| 03:08.41 | Dagmar | No, terminating your own fiber four times in a row because a mouse farted a mile away is no fun |
| 03:08.53 | Arrowmaster | its not that hard |
| 03:09.00 | Arrowmaster | im certified to do it |
| 03:09.04 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: The 6000v is how much voltage they think will be needed to breach the insulation |
| 03:09.23 | Dagmar | Lemme assure you, 20ga isn't carrying a lot of amps. |
| 03:09.33 | Arrowmaster | yeah i know |
| 03:09.43 | Arrowmaster | my uncle does high voltage |
| 03:09.50 | Dagmar | We're using 10ga here for 30a circuits at 208v |
| 03:11.46 | Dagmar | The best part is the FLIR gun can tell which wires have juice in them. |
| 03:18.57 | Jerub | yow |
| 03:19.04 | Jerub | t11 druid resto is lifebloom++++ |
| 03:22.56 | SqueeG | i love the brewfest music |
| 03:24.13 | Dagmar | Maybe this year we'll get more brewmaidens |
| 03:24.46 | SqueeG | nothing extra |
| 03:25.19 | Xyphoid | i do enjoy the 2 frost badges in 45 seconds thing |
| 03:25.24 | Kraps | "Topping the list this year is newcomer Carlisle Cullen, patriarch of the Cullen coven of vampires in the Twilight series of novels. Cullen, age 370, has accumulated a fortune of $34.1 billion--much of it from long-term investments made with the aid of his adopted daughter Alice, who picks stocks based on her ability to see into the future." |
| 03:25.38 | Kraps | lols really hard |
| 03:25.46 | Dagmar | Kraps: Dont make us set you on fire |
| 03:26.10 | Dagmar | Squeeg: I'm going to be disappointed if they didn't at leave upgrade the souvenir stein to a different color |
| 03:26.17 | Dagmar | Wowwiki seems to think they didn't change it |
| 03:26.20 | Xyphoid | they left it the same |
| 03:26.23 | Xyphoid | i got mine last night |
| 03:26.25 | kd3 | they already said on the eu cm forums that they're not going to |
| 03:26.27 | Dagmar | Crap |
| 03:26.28 | kd3 | s/cm/cs/ |
| 03:26.44 | SqueeG | dagmar: there is no new stein |
| 03:26.47 | Dagmar | Well, I'm going to stomp my feet about that |
| 03:26.54 | SqueeG | if you got the one last year, you get nothing xD |
| 03:26.55 | Dagmar | I was looking forward to having four of them |
| 03:27.14 | Dagmar | Hell, i've been getting beer in the mail for as long as I can remmeber now |
| 03:27.20 | Lunessa | I have them all already. I suppose that means there's not point in collecting all the rewards again? |
| 03:27.34 | Xyphoid | not unless you missed something last time |
| 03:27.46 | Xyphoid | the only change is that Coren is now accessed by LFD |
| 03:27.48 | Xyphoid | like ahune |
| 03:27.49 | Dagmar | They stop sending you beer if you don't reup. At least I assume they do. |
| 03:27.59 | Dagmar | Xyphoid: Or with a mole machine |
| 03:28.07 | SqueeG | you have to re-subscribe every year |
| 03:28.19 | SqueeG | did they take the mole machine out this year? |
| 03:28.20 | Lunessa | I got the achievement already. |
| 03:28.25 | Dagmar | Squeeg: Thanks. I have no personal experience with not being a member. ;) |
| 03:28.27 | Lunessa | And I have the mole machine. |
| 03:28.27 | Xyphoid | can you get to him via the mole machine? haven't tried |
| 03:28.41 | Xyphoid | also you can kill him as often as you want via lfd for the trinkets |
| 03:28.48 | Xyphoid | the mount drops from the bag you can get once a day |
| 03:28.49 | Lunessa | Ok, I'm out - check you later. |
| 03:29.07 | SqueeG | it was fun killing him over and over again :p |
| 03:29.13 | Dagmar | The only thing I'm missing is a kodo |
| 03:29.20 | SqueeG | my gf still didn't get the second healy trinket though |
| 03:29.26 | SqueeG | i want my effing kodo |
| 03:29.31 | SqueeG | I've had the ram since the first year |
| 03:29.51 | Xyphoid | i don't know whether the remote drops from the bag or him this time around |
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| 03:30.22 | SqueeG | but it does still drop? |
| 03:31.13 | Xyphoid | i haven't seen it drop in 6 kills |
| 03:31.16 | Xyphoid | so who knows |
| 03:31.58 | Kraps | Mr. Monopoly dropped off the list :o |
| 03:32.47 | Dagmar | Wowwiki says the remote is in the bag |
| 03:37.32 | Jerub | has anyone else managed to hit the instance limit in embarressing ways? |
| 03:37.52 | Jerub | i managed to get locked out of RS25 |
| 03:38.07 | Kraps | Jerub: why did that suddenly become a big issue? |
| 03:38.43 | Jerub | Kraps: coren direbrew |
| 03:38.50 | Kraps | ah |
| 03:38.56 | Jerub | spam it on a bunch of toons, then try to go to your raid |
| 03:38.57 | Jerub | :P |
| 03:39.04 | SqueeG | what *IS* the limit? |
| 03:39.07 | Jerub | 5/hour |
| 03:39.10 | Jerub | account wide |
| 03:39.16 | SqueeG | holy shit |
| 03:39.17 | Jerub | so 5 80's counts as spamming it |
| 03:39.21 | SqueeG | since when has it beena cct wide? |
| 03:39.28 | SqueeG | acct* |
| 03:39.29 | Jerub | SqueeG: since forever |
| 03:39.34 | SqueeG | nowai |
| 03:39.44 | kd3 | er, last I checked it was per toon? |
| 03:39.47 | Jerub | it was implemented apparently to stop people from entering an instance, lootinga chest, running out, resetting and running in again. |
| 03:39.52 | Jerub | kd3: nope. account wide. |
| 03:39.59 | Xyphoid | i have been locked out of a raid by farming an instance, whoops |
| 03:40.17 | Jerub | i remember before LFD hitting the limit when spamming toc5 norm for gear |
| 03:40.21 | SqueeG | i always thought it was character based :p |
| 03:40.42 | Kraps | http://www.forbes.com/2007/12/10/largest-fictional-companies-oped-books-fict1507-cx_mn_de_1211company_slide_2.html?thisSpeed=undefined |
| 03:41.48 | Shirik | 's laptop is making a clicky clicky and just bluescreened :( |
| 03:42.03 | kd3 | it's the click of death! your harddrive has given up the magic smoke |
| 03:42.04 | Jerub | Shirik: oh noes |
| 03:42.26 | Shirik | about time tbh |
| 03:42.35 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/26850257897/pre-cataclysm-world-event-thread/ |
| 03:44.24 | SqueeG | are they really pushing for an october release? O_O |
| 03:45.17 | Kraps | heh |
| 03:46.09 | Kraps | "In move not covered in any M.B.A. class, Skynet seems to be directing company resources to killing off its customers, all of humanity, in a project code-named "Judgment Day." Revenue implications thought to be dire if initiative succeeds." |
| 04:02.56 | Kraps | direbrew takes 15 seconds |
| 04:03.29 | Trela | More like an early November release. |
| 04:04.31 | Xyphoid | yeah last time i went to direbrew he was on 50% by the time my screen loaded |
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| 04:06.48 | bluspacecow | ~lastseen tekkub |
| 04:06.52 | bluspacecow | http://holycrapthatsfunny.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/bacon.png |
| 04:07.01 | bluspacecow | ^^ for tekkub |
| 04:12.31 | Adys | ~seen tuller |
| 04:12.42 | purl | tuller <~muffins@c-69-143-56-163.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 9h 31m 36s ago, saying: 'http://github.com/kimhyunkang/Combuctor'. |
| 04:12.52 | bluspacecow | ~seen myass |
| 04:12.52 | purl | i haven't seen 'myass', bluspacecow |
| 04:13.00 | bluspacecow | *giggles* |
| 04:16.30 | Wobin | bluspacecow: ty for the nsfw tag on that image |
| 04:16.39 | bluspacecow | woops |
| 04:16.44 | bluspacecow | sorry guys :( |
| 04:17.14 | bluspacecow | rail gun ! http://hackedgadgets.com/2010/09/20/125kj-coilgun/ |
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| 04:20.58 | Thunder_Child | umm...this should be interesting http://www.propworx.com/stargate-auction-catalog/ |
| 04:22.49 | Thunder_Child | $10,000 for one segment of the stargate |
| 04:23.17 | Arrowmaster | why would anybody want a segment |
| 04:23.24 | Arrowmaster | its only good if you have the entire thing |
| 04:23.34 | Thunder_Child | $100,000 and it's yours |
| 04:23.41 | Xyphoid | i can put a segment on my mantlepiece |
| 04:23.58 | bluspacecow | its so a club of rich geeks cant get together on the weekend and consrtuct it |
| 04:24.04 | bluspacecow | *can |
| 04:25.16 | dafi | you also still need the dialer, it's a pain in the ass to do it manualy |
| 04:25.47 | Dagmar | Nubian slaves are harder than ever to find these days, it's true. |
| 04:25.48 | Thunder_Child | mmm....wraith uniforms |
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| 04:26.22 | Thunder_Child | hm...and only 2-3K for the super soldier |
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| 04:29.43 | Dagmar | A shame the weapons don't wokr |
| 04:29.46 | Dagmar | I'd only need ont. |
| 04:29.48 | Dagmar | er one |
| 04:30.33 | bluspacecow | http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_BbVResGZnDo/S8d7j0TTROI/AAAAAAAACgM/fkX5Mp0DszU/s1600/giant-weta.jpg == kill it with fire |
| 04:30.43 | Dagmar | SFW? |
| 04:30.51 | bluspacecow | erm |
| 04:30.52 | bluspacecow | not sure |
| 04:30.58 | Thunder_Child | no nudity |
| 04:31.02 | bluspacecow | big photo of big ass insect on a hand |
| 04:31.05 | ginganagareboshi | hmm my wow just installed a patch? for the launcher.. anyone know what it was? |
| 04:31.24 | Dagmar | Someone should tell blogspot that hostnames which are simply numbers are FOR ASSHOLES. |
| 04:31.30 | bluspacecow | tools patch |
| 04:31.49 | bluspacecow | to update the bg download to either 2.2.0 or 2.2.1 |
| 04:31.56 | bluspacecow | bg downloader version 2.0.0 wasn |
| 04:31.59 | bluspacecow | 't |
| 04:31.59 | Dagmar | A fqdn that happens to be of four parts, the first of which is solely a number, is especially crap |
| 04:32.05 | ginganagareboshi | that might be it |
| 04:32.05 | bluspacecow | downloading the pre-patch |
| 04:32.21 | Dagmar | Never, ever do that if you admin DNS anywhere. |
| 04:32.55 | Thunder_Child | actually Dagmar many of the weapons are infact real |
| 04:33.42 | Trela | Sure is a lot in that auction. |
| 04:34.01 | ginganagareboshi | are they done dev the ui in cata? or are changes suspected there aswell? |
| 04:34.06 | Thunder_Child | what...15 years worth or so |
| 04:34.35 | ginganagareboshi | sorry for questions ;P been a while since i was in here.. |
| 04:34.50 | Thunder_Child | 2K for a ZPM |
| 04:35.01 | Thunder_Child | though i bet it is depleted |
| 04:35.18 | Trela | XD |
| 04:35.36 | Trela | The sun glasses props are cool, but then I realize they are normal sunglasses with some leather on them. |
| 04:35.48 | Trela | The pictures are great reference to recreate them. |
| 04:35.49 | Thunder_Child | aviator style |
| 04:38.22 | Trela | http://www.vision3k.com/brands/cebe-sunglasses/cecchinel-large.asp |
| 04:38.40 | Trela | Get one for a fraction of the price. :D |
| 04:41.07 | Thunder_Child | i prefer wraparound myself |
| 04:43.33 | Gitt | is RegisterForClicks("LeftButtonUp","RightButtonUp") no longer functional? |
| 04:43.38 | Gitt | keeps coming back nil |
| 04:43.49 | bluspacecow | on beta , PTR or live ? |
| 04:43.52 | bluspacecow | build and version > |
| 04:43.53 | Gitt | beta, sorry |
| 04:44.39 | Gitt | versiuon 4.0.1, build 12984 |
| 04:44.44 | Gitt | version even |
| 04:45.35 | bluspacecow | hmmm not sure haven't been on beta for a while |
| 04:45.54 | bluspacecow | maybe it works the opposite way now ? |
| 04:58.10 | Adys | !api getglyph |
| 04:58.11 | lua_bot | Found 3 possible results for 'getglyph': GetGlyphLink, GetGlyphSocketInfo, SpellCanTargetGlyph |
| 04:58.12 | Adys | !api getglyphinfo |
| 04:58.12 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'getglyphinfo'. |
| 05:00.16 | bluspacecow | hmm |
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| 06:10.08 | mikma | haste: http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/kenny_door_stopper.jpg |
| 06:10.32 | mikma | cairenn: http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/hallway_of_beauty.jpg |
| 06:10.48 | Cairenn | prettiness! |
| 06:10.56 | Dagmar | whoooo... purty |
| 06:11.15 | Cairenn | and it would smell so wonderful under there |
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| 06:11.30 | Cairenn | all those lilacs? mmmmmmm, prettiness look, prettiness smell |
| 06:11.31 | Dagmar | ...for as long as we'd be able to smell it before puffing up like blowfish |
| 06:14.30 | zenzio | "European aircraft manufacturer Airbus has come up with the idea to build a passenger flight with a completely transparent fuselage. The central body of the aircraft will allow passengers to the see the stars above and city lights below" |
| 06:14.41 | zenzio | that'll help those who are afraid to fly |
| 06:14.46 | Fisker | i killed you zenzio |
| 06:14.49 | Fisker | i watched you die, etc. |
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| 06:18.16 | Gitt | zenzio: that's a terrible idea |
| 06:18.20 | Gitt | just terrible |
| 06:18.39 | Gitt | ...and if you crash, you can see the earth come up at you in realtime! |
| 06:20.30 | Fisker | do we know if there's gonna be another huge preload or if this is it? |
| 06:23.47 | Dagmar | Huge preload. PTR is still too busticated |
| 06:25.17 | zenzio | "Halo did an awesome job of building a first-person shooter exclusively for the console, and now hardly anyone plays first person shooters on the PC anymore. Itâs all about the console." |
| 06:25.19 | zenzio | right... |
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| 06:28.07 | Dagmar | zenzio: hahahah they wish |
| 06:28.20 | Dagmar | mice pwn controller users |
| 06:35.39 | mikma | might be nsfw, yet funny: http://media.riemurasia.net/albumit/mmedia/mu/o25/8hf3/46504/620432352.jpg |
| 06:37.49 | mikma | haste: pedobear? http://media.riemurasia.net/albumit/mmedia/nf/0u7/v94y/116220/5710106.jpg |
| 06:39.58 | zenzio | mikma: a coworker once showed us a picture similar to the first one... for containers of that paper-stuff you pull out, whatever it's called |
| 06:42.21 | Dagmar | mikma: I don't even know. Very likely something much more disturbing. |
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| 07:25.46 | zenzio | "Anyway, point of the story is that cool SQL features are cool. But don't use your hard drive as a processor." |
| 07:28.54 | cbreak_work | there are some things that can be very efficiently solved with terabytes of hard disk space and a bunch of CPUs |
| 07:29.23 | cbreak_work | of course, it involves precomputation of rainbow tables :) |
| 07:29.40 | unfo- | there are also several problems that would be efficiently solved by bringing datasets into memory and not processing them from disk :) |
| 07:29.55 | zenzio | cbreak_work: of course, but this guy was talking about an MMO that flopped in somewhat early development because the CPUs were idling waiting for the haddrives to write data |
| 07:30.42 | cbreak_work | :/ |
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| 07:30.49 | cbreak_work | async IO ftw |
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| 07:34.04 | zenzio | also, I hate when people put half of a sentence in the subject/title of a post, and the second half in the body |
| 07:34.56 | zenzio | reading one comment I saw "sparc servers, but that went poof abotu 10 minutes after the Oracle merger." - this sounded very out of the blue if you didn't read the title, "I think Sun was giving them access to some..." |
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| 07:56.34 | zenzio | it's funny how any post about PostgreSQL or MySQL on Slashdot (probably other sites as well) always become PostgreSQL vs. MySQL fights |
| 07:56.40 | zenzio | quite amusing to read the comments |
| 07:59.57 | mitch0 | it's all because MySQL sucks :P |
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| 08:11.00 | Napoleone | whats that command for eventlistings ingame? |
| 08:15.45 | zenzio | don't recall off-hand... try /event<tab> and see if it has any suggestions |
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| 08:19.02 | Adys | test-driven reverse engineering: "Seventy-fourth time's the charm" |
| 08:19.20 | zenzio | hehe |
| 08:19.29 | zenzio | what are you reverse engineering? |
| 08:19.54 | Adys | glyph->class relationships in pure spell data |
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| 08:20.07 | zenzio | neat |
| 08:20.27 | Adys | http://paste2.org/p/996572 |
| 08:20.27 | Adys | :3 |
| 08:20.35 | Adys | only took me 2 hours ... |
| 08:21.09 | Adys | make that three |
| 08:21.19 | zenzio | well I'm going to assume there was no blatant "class=X" you could just read |
| 08:21.28 | Adys | there wasn't |
| 08:21.48 | Adys | they hid it, nested 3 tables down the chain |
| 08:21.49 | zenzio | so a few hours doesn't sound bad, at least to me. But maybe I'm just slow at discovering connections |
| 08:22.57 | Adys | no but I still don't fully understand how it works |
| 08:23.09 | Adys | FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU |
| 08:23.13 | Adys | line 34 on that paste |
| 08:23.29 | zenzio | for some reason I just had a vision of your character sheet's Skills tab... your professions being Data Miner and Reverse Engineer |
| 08:24.04 | zenzio | yeah, I guess Drain Soul isn't a typical mage thing |
| 08:24.30 | Adys | bloody fuckshit, is that the only false positive |
| 08:25.59 | Adys | wow, there's two false positives in that file |
| 08:26.09 | Adys | I need to murder someone |
| 08:30.36 | zenzio | which was the other? |
| 08:30.39 | Adys | penguin |
| 08:32.21 | mikma | adys: good boi! |
| 08:32.31 | Adys | why :( |
| 08:32.42 | mikma | sacrificing your mentalhealth for us |
| 08:32.52 | mikma | that's why we heart you |
| 08:33.04 | Adys | right |
| 08:33.06 | Adys | suck my genitals |
| 08:33.14 | mikma | if they are unwashed and pulsing |
| 08:34.14 | Adys | they are |
| 08:36.44 | mikma | wobin: http://www.geekologie.com/2010/09/what_if_superheroes_were_hipst.php |
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| 08:41.26 | harl | hi |
| 08:54.21 | Napoleone | anyone know about the units in f.x. setwidth on a frame |
| 08:54.56 | Adys | Napoleone: what do you mean? |
| 08:55.00 | Napoleone | WorldFrame:SetWidth(1364); = in units.. not pixels.. so any way for me to get around that easier than to try |
| 08:55.23 | Napoleone | well in i want to fill the full horizontal widt. i actually tried for an hour to hit the exact number |
| 08:55.26 | Napoleone | 1364 |
| 08:55.43 | Adys | it's in pixel, but you can't get absolute width |
| 08:55.45 | Adys | because of UI scaling |
| 08:56.18 | haste | it's in pixel but the UI is scaled to Nx768 and you have UIScale on top of that |
| 08:56.39 | Napoleone | bi have uiscale turned off |
| 08:57.07 | Adys | it's still scaled before that |
| 08:57.11 | Napoleone | hmm |
| 08:57.30 | Napoleone | any way to get that scale so i can get the script to input the right value |
| 08:58.04 | Adys | is there a reason why you absolutely need exact pixel-level width? |
| 08:58.18 | Adys | in 99.9% of cases, you don't need it in addons |
| 08:58.20 | Napoleone | my worldframe is resized. |
| 08:58.58 | Adys | "so"? |
| 08:59.25 | Napoleone | so if a buddy has diff resoluton its tends to just go blank |
| 08:59.43 | Adys | wait, what tends to go blank? |
| 09:00.18 | Napoleone | well I'm playing around atm |
| 09:00.41 | Napoleone | and earlier when the number was too high it just showed the default background colo.. no rendering |
| 09:01.52 | Adys | I've no idea what you're talking about. |
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| 09:20.22 | mikma | napoleone: what was the question again? |
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| 09:23.08 | Napoleone | its the width of the worldfram |
| 09:23.15 | Napoleone | i want it to be about 75% |
| 09:23.26 | Napoleone | no matter resolution |
| 09:25.10 | Napoleone | i need to find a better way of either displaying unitframes so it doesnt overlap the tracker. or a new tracker. |
| 09:25.25 | Napoleone | quest tracker that is. it takes up immense amount of space lol |
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| 09:34.25 | LebQzz | easy way to bind GameToolTip to the moune? |
| 09:34.29 | LebQzz | mouse* |
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| 09:38.03 | Adys | LebQzz: anchor it :p |
| 09:38.59 | LebQzz | my idea but whats the anchor point? |
| 09:39.09 | LebQzz | whats the mouse anchor point ;) |
| 09:39.35 | Adys | GameTooltip:SetOwner(UIParent, "ANCHOR_CURSOR") |
| 09:39.35 | Adys | GameTooltip:SetHyperlink(link) |
| 09:39.35 | Adys | GameTooltip:Show() |
| 09:41.03 | LebQzz | second line produces an error |
| 09:41.51 | Adys | obviously |
| 09:42.07 | Adys | i just pasted code from my linkhover addon, you dont need the second line |
| 09:42.53 | LebQzz | they are doing something else. stil ldoesnt work.. time to ripoff some other addon for knowledge ;P |
| 09:43.23 | Adys | LebQzz: http://dpaste.com/246755/ |
| 09:43.24 | Adys | hf |
| 09:45.24 | Adys | huh |
| 09:45.25 | Adys | !api ShowUIPanel |
| 09:45.25 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'ShowUIPanel'. |
| 09:45.35 | Adys | wtf is that line 24 |
| 09:45.45 | Adys | was i drunk |
| 09:46.10 | LebQzz | hehe i just noticed the same |
| 09:46.18 | Adys | !api uipanel |
| 09:46.19 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'uipanel'. |
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| 09:50.50 | zenzio | "Google has revealed that aerial fiber links to its data center in Oregon were 'regularly' shot down by hunters, forcing the company to put its cables underground. Hunters were reportedly trying to hit insulators on electricity distribution poles, which also hosted aerially-deployed fiber connected to Google's $600 million data center in The Dalles" |
| 09:51.12 | LebQzz | lol |
| 09:51.30 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:51.47 | LebQzz | well i know some hate google... but omg.. relax |
| 09:52.22 | Dagmar | No, tnat's just idiot hillbillies thinking they're shooting at power lines which aren't going to affect things that way |
| 09:52.26 | LebQzz | tiptac really does the job |
| 09:52.29 | LebQzz | and more ;P |
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| 09:57.26 | LebQzz | hmm whats the command for showing all events realtime? |
| 09:57.38 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:57.43 | LebQzz | thanks |
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| 10:06.56 | LebQzz | when overtired try to program lua ;P |
| 10:07.00 | LebQzz | its confusing lol |
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| 10:35.32 | Fisker | Thrae |
| 10:35.33 | Fisker | i will end you |
| 10:35.36 | Fisker | ~seen tuller |
| 10:35.39 | purl | tuller <~muffins@c-69-143-56-163.hsd1.va.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 15h 54m 33s ago, saying: 'http://github.com/kimhyunkang/Combuctor'. |
| 10:36.22 | Thrae | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:36.27 | jnwhiteh | Would anyone mind testing something for me? |
| 10:37.01 | jnwhiteh | Unzip http://dl.dropbox.com/u/642175/TomTom.zip to your addons folder (backup your existing TomTom if you use it). I mainly want to see if the config dialog (/tomtom) works, along with the other basic functionality. |
| 10:37.52 | zenzio | would if I weren't at work :-| |
| 10:38.02 | Fisker | cataclysm or live? |
| 10:38.34 | jnwhiteh | live |
| 10:39.26 | Fisker | seems to work |
| 10:39.36 | Fisker | if my "config dialog" you mean the game options |
| 10:39.58 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
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| 10:40.00 | jnwhiteh | that's good then |
| 10:40.05 | jnwhiteh | check Logs/FrameXML.log |
| 10:40.10 | jnwhiteh | to make sure I didn't fuck something else up? =) |
| 10:40.34 | Fisker | sure |
| 10:40.46 | Fisker | do i need to exit the game before it's written? |
| 10:40.54 | jnwhiteh | shouldn't need to, no |
| 10:41.44 | Fisker | nada about tomtom atleast |
| 10:41.50 | jnwhiteh | cool, thanks. |
| 10:42.18 | LebQzz | i give up for now.. cant even get a basic messageframe to show lol |
| 10:43.31 | Virkoto | Hello. Question: "local kids = { buffLayer:GetChildren() };" i would like to remove each of the child from the Frame(Layer). The childs are CheckButtons and they're supposed to be newly placed whenever Frame gets shown. Looping through the kids array and doing a "object = nil" doesn't seem to work :( - Any help is appreciated. |
| 10:44.17 | Fisker | btw jnwhiteh |
| 10:44.20 | Fisker | the crashes continued |
| 10:44.27 | Fisker | But i wiped completely and reinstalled CM6 |
| 10:44.29 | Fisker | works fine now :o |
| 10:44.36 | jnwhiteh | cool |
| 10:44.55 | jnwhiteh | Virkoto: I'm not sure I understand your question. |
| 10:46.22 | LebQzz | hmm any idea when the next patch goes live? |
| 10:46.34 | jnwhiteh | when it's done =) |
| 10:46.36 | Virkoto | First time when Frame is shown there're are some Checkbuttons placed on them (they're supposed to be dynamic). When i show it the next time, all CheckButtons should be removed and newly placed |
| 10:46.37 | LebQzz | ;P |
| 10:46.41 | Virkoto | removing them |
| 10:46.54 | jnwhiteh | Virkoto: okay, then you need to :ClearAllPoints() and then re-anchor them |
| 10:46.58 | LebQzz | my downloader wont even download the patch |
| 10:47.01 | jnwhiteh | just setting something to nil won't do it |
| 10:47.06 | jnwhiteh | that's not doing what you think it is |
| 10:47.18 | zenzio | LebQzz: live patch? |
| 10:47.27 | LebQzz | the new 4gb patch |
| 10:47.36 | LebQzz | the rewamp of currency and shit |
| 10:47.45 | Virkoto | But ClearAllPoints is really removing them (kinda *g*) ? |
| 10:47.53 | zenzio | LebQzz: I deleted my BackgroundDownloader.exe, reset the cache and ran the repair tool, then it started downloading |
| 10:48.09 | LebQzz | hmm should try that |
| 10:48.15 | zenzio | Virkoto: do you mean like disposing of/deleting them? |
| 10:48.19 | LebQzz | just says waiting..... ;P |
| 10:48.24 | zenzio | LebQzz: that's what mine did |
| 10:48.25 | Virkoto | yes |
| 10:48.27 | zenzio | Virkoto: you can't |
| 10:48.34 | zenzio | you can hide them, but that's it |
| 10:48.51 | jnwhiteh | just re-use them |
| 10:48.56 | jnwhiteh | that's what they are there for |
| 10:49.07 | LebQzz | hmm can anyone make me a standard messageframe. I cant get mine to work AT ALL |
| 10:49.25 | Virkoto | hmm, that increses the effort quite a lot...they should be kinda quite dynamic |
| 10:49.48 | jnwhiteh | LebQzz: have you set a font on the message frame |
| 10:49.56 | jnwhiteh | Virkoto: it doesn't make anything more difficult, they can be quite dynamic |
| 10:50.17 | jnwhiteh | this is how the entire user interface is written, and it seems to do just fine =) |
| 10:50.35 | LebQzz | isValid = frmMessage:SetFont("Fonts\\FRIZQT__.TT", 12,"OUTLINE") |
| 10:51.11 | LebQzz | with and without the isvalid theres an error saying the frame is nil. non existant. |
| 10:51.17 | jnwhiteh | and you've given it a size, and anchored it, and shown it, and verified that its IsShown(), IsVisible() |
| 10:51.20 | jnwhiteh | then the frame wasn't created |
| 10:51.25 | jnwhiteh | so you should probably start there. |
| 10:51.29 | Virkoto | then most probably my whole approach to accomplish this is wrong :) |
| 10:51.29 | LebQzz | hmm so set font AFTEr show? |
| 10:51.35 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 10:51.39 | jnwhiteh | set it after its created |
| 10:51.52 | jnwhiteh | Virkoto: it probably requires much less change than you think it does, but yes. |
| 10:53.27 | LebQzz | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/140827 |
| 10:53.30 | LebQzz | thats what i have |
| 10:53.49 | jnwhiteh | why is messageframe caps? |
| 10:53.54 | jnwhiteh | not that it should be an issue, but why? |
| 10:54.02 | jnwhiteh | and what is the specific error you are getting? |
| 10:54.13 | LebQzz | cant tell you.. running repair tool |
| 10:54.23 | jnwhiteh | then I can't help you |
| 10:54.24 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 10:54.26 | LebQzz | something about trying something when its a nil value |
| 10:54.31 | LebQzz | on the frmMessage |
| 10:54.47 | LebQzz | the line right after create |
| 10:54.49 | jnwhiteh | how is this being run? |
| 10:55.03 | LebQzz | as it is atm. |
| 10:55.07 | jnwhiteh | ... |
| 10:55.09 | jnwhiteh | in an addon |
| 10:55.11 | jnwhiteh | in WowLua |
| 10:55.14 | jnwhiteh | commands? |
| 10:55.15 | LebQzz | yes addon |
| 10:56.13 | Virkoto | jnwhiteh: can i show you the crap i produced currently ? :) |
| 10:56.27 | jnwhiteh | you can, but my eyes bleed easily |
| 10:57.00 | Kalroth | jnwhiteh got emo eyes |
| 10:57.12 | jnwhiteh | LebQzz: try this |
| 10:57.13 | jnwhiteh | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/140828 |
| 10:57.17 | jnwhiteh | and report back precisely what happens. |
| 10:59.17 | Virkoto | jnwhiteh: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/140829-32r5 |
| 10:59.58 | jnwhiteh | the changes to make that work properly are minimal. |
| 11:01.03 | Virkoto | but most probably i have to get each CheckButton and compare if its the one i need/want to have been shown or not |
| 11:01.13 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 11:01.28 | Virkoto | no ? :) |
| 11:01.33 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 11:01.49 | Virkoto | why not ? (obvious question now) |
| 11:02.37 | Kalroth | no! |
| 11:02.52 | jnwhiteh | buffLayer is a nil variable, btw |
| 11:02.58 | jnwhiteh | I suspect you didn't intend that. |
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| 11:03.21 | jnwhiteh | SetWidth/SetHeight take numbers, not strings. |
| 11:03.23 | Virkoto | its defined outside of this pastey |
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| 11:04.23 | Virkoto | changed to numbers. |
| 11:05.18 | Virkoto | So, what would be the proper approach to handle it, please ? |
| 11:05.30 | jnwhiteh | I'm working on |
| 11:05.33 | jnwhiteh | be patient for a second =) |
| 11:05.37 | Virkoto | oh, sorry & thx |
| 11:05.39 | jnwhiteh | I have to change the code, I can't just tell yo |
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| 11:05.44 | jnwhiteh | that would take too damn long. |
| 11:06.09 | Virkoto | i shut up and be patient :) |
| 11:06.46 | jnwhiteh | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/140830 is a fairly easy way to do it |
| 11:06.59 | jnwhiteh | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/140830-197b:140829-32r5 shows the diffs between your code and mine. |
| 11:07.16 | jnwhiteh | ignore the fillbufflist |
| 11:07.24 | jnwhiteh | my editor screwed it. |
| 11:09.21 | Kalroth | soon we'll have little baby fillbufflists running around |
| 11:09.49 | jnwhiteh | yeah, but they'll have to know their father is vim, it's pretty obvious =) |
| 11:10.56 | Virkoto | so you keep a list(global in addon) of buttons and depending on need show or hide them ? |
| 11:11.11 | jnwhiteh | there is no global list |
| 11:11.20 | jnwhiteh | just a list, local to the addon |
| 11:11.21 | Virkoto | local buttons = {} |
| 11:11.25 | jnwhiteh | that's clearly a local |
| 11:11.25 | Virkoto | yeah |
| 11:11.26 | jnwhiteh | not a global |
| 11:11.27 | jnwhiteh | as indicated. |
| 11:11.37 | jnwhiteh | I'm a pedant for incorrectly used terminology |
| 11:11.49 | Virkoto | sorry majestro :) |
| 11:11.56 | jnwhiteh | you just create the buttons once, that's it |
| 11:12.08 | jnwhiteh | once "buffOption" .. cnt has been created for a given cnt |
| 11:12.17 | jnwhiteh | you just re-use that button over and over again as necessary. |
| 11:12.38 | jnwhiteh | then if you need fewer checkboxes than you've used previously, you just ensure the unused ones are hidden |
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| 11:13.20 | Virkoto | okay, i think i got it. Thanks a lot |
| 11:13.24 | jnwhiteh | yw |
| 11:21.33 | Virkoto | line 42 still fails with a "nil value" |
| 11:21.41 | Virkoto | but rest works perfect |
| 11:22.06 | jnwhiteh | that's because it should be chkBox not chkbox |
| 11:22.13 | jnwhiteh | same with line 39 |
| 11:22.25 | Virkoto | slaps himself |
| 11:22.38 | Fisker | k |
| 11:23.38 | Thrae | Virkoto: One trick is to look for leaked globals on your script. A lot of times they turn out to just be typos of locals. |
| 11:25.14 | Virkoto | yeah, but i suppose you know the phenomenon of getting this sickness called code-blindness after hours over hours on working on it ? ;) |
| 11:26.21 | jnwhiteh | my eyes give out before my brain does, normally =/ |
| 11:26.21 | Thrae | Hmm, I wonder how http://code.google.com/p/lua-checker/ would perform on WoW Addons, since they're modules themselves. |
| 11:26.27 | Fisker | my feet require sleep Thrae |
| 11:26.38 | Thrae | Fisker: Stop typing with your feet and try using your hands. |
| 11:26.45 | Virkoto | lol |
| 11:28.55 | Virkoto | jnwhiteh: do i even need to overwrite the SetChecked(1/0) on checkboxes ? |
| 11:29.26 | Virkoto | line 39/42 |
| 11:29.29 | jnwhiteh | I don't understand the question? |
| 11:29.34 | jnwhiteh | overwrite it how? |
| 11:29.41 | Virkoto | like setting it manualy |
| 11:29.41 | jnwhiteh | !api SetChecked |
| 11:29.41 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'SetChecked': CheckButton:SetChecked, CheckButton:SetCheckedTexture |
| 11:29.46 | jnwhiteh | !api CheckButton:SetChecked |
| 11:29.46 | lua_bot | CheckButton:SetChecked: Sets whether the check button is checked (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/CheckButton/SetChecked) |
| 11:30.00 | jnwhiteh | you should use a boolean as indicated, rather than 0 and 1 |
| 11:30.06 | jnwhiteh | and yes, you should set it to whatever you want it to be |
| 11:30.17 | Virkoto | okay |
| 11:30.17 | jnwhiteh | if you want it checked, then check it ,otherwise uncheck it |
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| 11:32.27 | Virkoto | out of scope question, is there any tool/software to test the addon outside of wow ? makes dev process quite painfull sometimes...logging in/out |
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| 11:32.55 | jnwhiteh | why are you logging in and out |
| 11:32.57 | jnwhiteh | that's unnecessary |
| 11:33.02 | jnwhiteh | just reload your user interface |
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| 11:34.50 | Virkoto | okay :) |
| 11:35.18 | Virkoto | and the checkbuttons do not seem to change the state to checked/unchecked when i click now |
| 11:35.19 | jnwhiteh | using /reload |
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| 11:35.35 | jnwhiteh | oh |
| 11:35.50 | jnwhiteh | you don't need to manage the checked state yourself |
| 11:35.54 | jnwhiteh | the game does that |
| 11:36.01 | Virkoto | that was my question before :) |
| 11:36.06 | jnwhiteh | that wasn't clear to me |
| 11:36.11 | jnwhiteh | so I'd use PostClick instead of OnClick |
| 11:36.17 | jnwhiteh | and RESPOND if you need to there |
| 11:36.22 | jnwhiteh | by checking self:GetChecked(90 |
| 11:36.24 | jnwhiteh | also |
| 11:36.29 | jnwhiteh | you've got unnecessary upvalues |
| 11:36.31 | jnwhiteh | in the line function() |
| 11:36.36 | jnwhiteh | make it function(chkBox) |
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| 11:39.34 | Virkoto | now it works perfect. Thx...once again |
| 11:40.28 | jnwhiteh | you're welcome |
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| 11:44.38 | Wobin | I <3 science: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txkRCIPSsjM&feature=player_embedded |
| 11:47.28 | zenzio | http://photographers.com.ua/thumbnails/pictures/2845/800ximg_3368.jpg |
| 11:48.32 | Wobin | zenzio: INVISIBLE BALL |
| 11:52.06 | Fisker | haha Wobin |
| 11:52.08 | Fisker | you're australian |
| 11:53.02 | Kalroth | no way! |
| 11:53.52 | Fisker | yes way |
| 11:55.18 | amro | Wobin: so that's how you torture gummy bears for information |
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| 12:13.07 | Fisker | Cide |
| 12:13.08 | Fisker | i cide u |
| 12:13.45 | foxlit | eep, it's a patch. |
| 12:14.49 | Fisker | foxlit |
| 12:14.51 | Fisker | a patch for what? |
| 12:15.20 | foxlit | wow, apparently. |
| 12:15.27 | Wobin | 10M or so |
| 12:15.39 | Fisker | oh |
| 12:15.41 | Fisker | launcher patch |
| 12:15.42 | Fisker | ooooooooold |
| 12:15.59 | foxlit | a launcher patch that changes wow build. |
| 12:16.40 | Kalroth | badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, badger, mushroom, mushroom - panic, it's a patch! oooh, it's a patch! |
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| 12:20.46 | Cide | hi |
| 12:21.52 | Fisker | hi Cide |
| 12:22.10 | Fisker | maybe we got some fucking steins foxlit ? |
| 12:22.23 | foxlit | steins are a lie, fisker |
| 12:22.32 | Fisker | i want them |
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| 12:26.56 | Fisker | hey Lopeppeppy |
| 12:29.13 | zenzio | Cairenn, Lopeppeppy: http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/8343/herestrubby.jpg |
| 12:29.25 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 12:30.33 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Fisker-dear. |
| 12:30.42 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Cairenn and alestane and zenzio and and and and! |
| 12:30.52 | Cairenn | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 12:31.06 | alestane | Hugpile! |
| 12:31.41 | Lopeppeppy | very hugpile, I'm feeling much better. |
| 12:31.48 | Lopeppeppy | Except for this cold I think the boyfriend gave me. |
| 12:32.54 | jnwhiteh | dirty boyfriendses |
| 12:33.10 | Lopeppeppy | For serious! Boys and their germs, I tell ya. |
| 12:34.54 | alestane | The girl germs get just as annoying when they come around, I'm afraid. |
| 12:35.21 | Lopeppeppy | I dreamed that I kissed a girl, but IRL I don't get to share girl germs like that. |
| 12:35.25 | Lopeppeppy | You should stop kissing girls. |
| 12:35.51 | zenzio | don't get to? o_O |
| 12:35.51 | alestane | That wouldn't work out so well for anyone. |
| 12:36.09 | airtonix | fapfapfap |
| 12:36.16 | Lopeppeppy | We shall qualify Kat as a "lady" for these purposes alone, so that you may continue to kiss her. |
| 12:36.34 | Lopeppeppy | zenzio, rawr. But girls are much too squishy, not my idea of fun. |
| 12:36.49 | airtonix | you haven't met hilda |
| 12:36.52 | zenzio | interesting |
| 12:37.35 | Lopeppeppy | I don't tend to like blondes either, airtonix. |
| 12:37.59 | zenzio | somehow this reminded me of a song, where a sentence roughly translates to "she was the size of a small tractor, and called Gunn" |
| 12:38.25 | zenzio | Lopeppeppy: the colour or the mentality? |
| 12:38.43 | airtonix | or Gertrude |
| 12:39.15 | Lopeppeppy | It's more like how serial killers favor targets that match one profile. |
| 12:39.29 | airtonix | im pretty sure they would leave you gibbering in a puddle of your own excitement |
| 12:39.44 | airtonix | begging for more |
| 12:39.46 | Lopeppeppy | I have never "gibbered". :P |
| 12:39.51 | airtonix | i know |
| 12:40.07 | airtonix | it'll be a release for you |
| 12:40.39 | Lopeppeppy | I'd much rather be secure than released into the wild! |
| 12:40.45 | airtonix | mhmm |
| 12:46.08 | Fisker | and naw foxlit |
| 12:46.10 | Fisker | it didn't |
| 12:47.29 | Torhal | has attained a new fear of Lopeppeppy. |
| 12:48.25 | Fisker | hah Cide |
| 12:48.42 | Fisker | i almost thought i saw you in Starcraft 2 league |
| 12:48.45 | Fisker | and i was like, wat? |
| 12:49.36 | Lopeppeppy | Sorry, Torhal! |
| 12:56.02 | Wobin | haha, Oh Sarah... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TL6MAyTXMRA |
| 12:59.22 | zenzio | they just don't make quality music videos anymore |
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| 13:00.29 | Kraps | we talking about serial killers? |
| 13:02.06 | Wobin | seen the new OK Go one? |
| 13:02.16 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHlJODYBLKs |
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| 13:03.56 | zenzio | "Its up to the gamers to stop poor launches. And the best way for this is NOT to pre-order a product - NOT buy into the hype. WAIT for the game to launch and wait at least 2 or 3 weeks to see how it goes." |
| 13:04.01 | Kalroth | orders the hounds to stand on Wobin |
| 13:04.10 | zenzio | so by his logic, games should be devoid of players for two to three weeks after launch |
| 13:05.36 | alestane | Or to assume that there will be plenty of sheep who will test-drive it for you. |
| 13:09.45 | Wobin | alestane: there always are |
| 13:12.31 | Kraps | http://www.blogcdn.com/www.wow.com/media/2010/08/backtothefuture.jpg |
| 13:13.00 | Fisker | no Kraps |
| 13:13.03 | Fisker | you have been stopped |
| 13:17.18 | amro | how would that make launches fail any less? |
| 13:17.38 | Cide | wanna play a wee amro? |
| 13:17.48 | amro | sure |
| 13:17.59 | Cide | you up for it Fisker? |
| 13:18.56 | Cide | join steam amro |
| 13:19.14 | Fisker | i'm seeing starcraft 2 |
| 13:19.22 | Fisker | gonna be locked up for civ 5 in 40 mins |
| 13:19.24 | Cide | but seeing != believing |
| 13:19.51 | Cide | civ 5 in 40 mins? |
| 13:19.56 | Cide | I thought it was released in like 3 days |
| 13:20.59 | Thunder_Child | nope, 40 |
| 13:21.05 | Cide | ? |
| 13:21.10 | amro | US release |
| 13:21.18 | amro | eu -> 24th |
| 13:21.25 | Cide | how are you getting it in 40 then fisker? |
| 13:21.30 | Fisker | i'm not |
| 13:21.32 | Fisker | demo is out |
| 13:21.32 | Thunder_Child | he is cheating |
| 13:21.34 | amro | he's a haxxor |
| 13:21.40 | Fisker | though i could just use a VPN to unlock the full game |
| 13:21.41 | amro | you can use a proxy to trick steam into unlocking it |
| 13:21.53 | Cide | that'd be nice |
| 13:21.55 | Fisker | but since the places i hang out is filled with valve employees it wouldn't take 5 seconds to put 2 and 2 together |
| 13:21.58 | Fisker | so not gonna risk it :P |
| 13:22.08 | Cide | sure |
| 13:22.27 | Cide | high-profile fiskerrrr |
| 13:22.31 | amro | is proxying explicitly against the terms of use? |
| 13:22.45 | Cide | join me in wormsss amro |
| 13:23.03 | Fisker | don't know, not gonna go to court over it amro :P |
| 13:23.30 | Fisker | Back when idling for TF2 items were cool one of the valve guys cleared out my backpacks and pretended nothing had happened |
| 13:23.48 | Cide | idling was never cool |
| 13:23.49 | Fisker | that was before they started doing the halo/cheat detection thing |
| 13:23.53 | Kalroth | owwned |
| 13:26.53 | airtonix | idles fisker |
| 13:27.12 | Fisker | hey airtonix |
| 13:27.32 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* another wootoff |
| 13:27.42 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:27.48 | amro | wootoffs make my rss reader cry |
| 13:28.03 | Thunder_Child | they make my wallet cry |
| 13:28.27 | Ackis | civ 5!!! |
| 13:28.31 | Ackis | Fisker: do you have civ 5 yet? |
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| 13:33.25 | Fisker | yes Ackis |
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| 13:33.45 | Ackis | good! |
| 13:33.51 | Ackis | you were bitching |
| 13:34.02 | amro | Fisker? bitching? no way! |
| 13:34.25 | Lopeppeppy | Nev-ar. |
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| 13:37.19 | Ackis | "Gentlemen, while you may think it is a time saving measure to pee and brush your teeth at the same time, it's not. #LFMF" |
| 13:37.24 | Ackis | I don't get what's wrong with that? |
| 13:38.02 | Wobin | LFMF? |
| 13:38.08 | Ackis | Learn From My Fail |
| 13:38.09 | Kalroth | Nothing, if you're a drummer that is able to perform two movement tasks in syncro |
| 13:38.23 | Wobin | perhaps an inability to aim |
| 13:38.31 | Wobin | without both hands at the wheel |
| 13:38.34 | Kalroth | Otherwise you'll either end up not brushing your teeth or (in his case) move your penis like you move your toothbrush |
| 13:38.59 | Wobin | it's the whole patting your head and rubbing your belly |
| 13:39.01 | Wobin | but messier |
| 13:39.04 | Ackis | ah |
| 13:39.06 | Ackis | ok |
| 13:39.25 | Ackis | I have an electric toothbrush |
| 13:39.37 | Wobin | That's what -she- said |
| 13:39.44 | airtonix | does it vibrate |
| 13:40.03 | airtonix | wouldn't take it through the airport check point |
| 13:40.29 | airtonix | happened to me once... |
| 13:40.42 | airtonix | ended up three days later gibbering in m... |
| 13:41.27 | airtonix | did you guys notice the stray cat in here ? |
| 13:42.51 | Ackis | http://valleywag.gawker.com/5641211/steve-jobs-in-email-pissing-match-with-college-journalism-student |
| 13:43.02 | Ackis | and people buy apple products why again? |
| 13:43.47 | Fisker | people also like eating shit Ackis |
| 13:43.51 | Fisker | don't ask me why |
| 13:44.01 | amro | why would you think we'd ask you? do you know? |
| 13:44.03 | airtonix | Ackis, ask lunessa |
| 13:44.15 | amro | lunessa eats shit? oO |
| 13:44.34 | airtonix | amro, i didn't say that |
| 13:44.42 | amro | yes, I know |
| 13:44.45 | amro | I like taking things out of context |
| 13:44.47 | airtonix | that's good |
| 13:47.17 | airtonix | ok so if i turn my back for a minute |
| 13:47.22 | Fisker | that was insane |
| 13:48.35 | Ackis | http://live.xbox.com/en-US/profile/profile.aspx?GamerTag=CanadaAckis look at the second game played keke it's super secret! |
| 13:50.14 | zenzio | so typing "is it " into Google brought up "is it thursday", "is it friday", "is it tuesday", "is it monday"... I hope those are songs or something |
| 13:52.23 | airtonix | is it ? |
| 13:52.59 | zenzio | "is it safe to end system idle process" o_O |
| 13:53.06 | amro | zenzio: try "how do i" |
| 13:53.50 | amro | "how do I look" is an interesting question to ask google |
| 13:53.50 | zenzio | "what exactly " => "what exactly is the function of a rubber duck" |
| 13:54.07 | airtonix | how long is |
| 13:54.17 | alestane | It makes bath time lots of fun. |
| 13:54.19 | alestane | Duh. |
| 13:54.28 | airtonix | giddigdy |
| 13:55.03 | zenzio | "what is r" => "what is research" |
| 13:55.21 | alestane | "It's what you're doing right now." |
| 13:55.25 | Lopeppeppy | There are a lot worse things it could bring up... |
| 13:55.36 | airtonix | who is gert |
| 13:55.40 | zenzio | also, at least on my Google screen, "is it safe to eat " brought up a rather icky suggestion |
| 13:56.01 | airtonix | zenzio, that's based on your previous searches |
| 13:56.04 | airtonix | so ... busted |
| 13:56.08 | zenzio | haha |
| 13:56.13 | amro | "who did" => "who did rush limbaugh marry" |
| 13:56.17 | amro | that's such a random question |
| 13:56.36 | zenzio | why would => why would i want an ipad |
| 13:56.39 | zenzio | now we're getting somewhere |
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| 13:57.34 | amro | "how many times can the doctor regenerate" |
| 13:57.42 | amro | as long as they need money |
| 13:58.32 | Cide | how can => how can she slap |
| 13:58.44 | airtonix | so you like bondage ? |
| 13:58.50 | Cide | definitely |
| 13:59.01 | amro | why would anyone > why would anyone buy an ipad |
| 13:59.03 | amro | that I like |
| 14:05.31 | Thunder_Child | another gig to DL /sigh |
| 14:07.35 | Fisker | zomg |
| 14:07.40 | Fisker | teh civ 5 demo is 4GB |
| 14:07.56 | haste | lol |
| 14:10.38 | Lopeppeppy | That's a demo, huh? *laugh* |
| 14:11.36 | Thunder_Child | i thought the whole game is only 3.5GB |
| 14:11.39 | Fisker | naw |
| 14:11.40 | Fisker | 4,5GB |
| 14:11.44 | Fisker | but the demo is 4GB :D |
| 14:12.38 | Fisker | http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/21/ce-oh-no-he-didnt-anssi-vanjoki-says-using-android-is-like-pe/ <-heh |
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| 14:13.36 | Thunder_Child | 4.277 it would seem |
| 14:17.48 | Thunder_Child | i do however wish it had been released on a friday |
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| 14:24.08 | amro | they might as well release the full game with a trial mode |
| 14:25.03 | Lopeppeppy | Sounds like what they did. |
| 14:26.02 | mitch0 | eh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrupted_Blood_incident |
| 14:26.36 | amro | <Fisker> old |
| 14:27.06 | mitch0 | indeed, I just didn't know that epidemiologists were examining this, too :) |
| 14:27.55 | Lopeppeppy | Of course. It gets an idea of how humans *could* react to a violent plague. |
| 14:28.13 | amro | the best part is the terrorism bit |
| 14:28.18 | Lopeppeppy | Religious nuts who want to bring about the apocalypse could just get sick, and then go to every mall, theater, shopping center and school they could get to. |
| 14:28.21 | mitch0 | yeah, that's funny too |
| 14:28.28 | Lopeppeppy | Biological weapons are quite the rage, I would assume. |
| 14:29.02 | Ackis | hopes the world ends soon. |
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| 14:29.06 | mitch0 | amro: wonder how many parents got a a call from the CIA or somesuch agency ;) |
| 14:29.07 | haste | the terrorism part is pretty accurate tho' |
| 14:29.23 | mitch0 | they called you too? :) |
| 14:29.24 | haste | many people got it with the intention to go spread it in a major city :P |
| 14:29.41 | amro | yeah, but I don't see how it's worth studying |
| 14:29.52 | amro | you fail hard if you need a game to show you that terrorists want to maximize damage |
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| 14:32.01 | alestane | Most of us don't want to believe that there are people motivated by the spread of wanton destruction. Reminders are frequently in order. |
| 14:32.41 | Lopeppeppy | If you fail to take a look at anything that can give insight into human behavior, however trivial it seems, you're losing information, which is never going to be good. |
| 14:32.54 | amro | spreading a debuff in wow and real life mass murder are completely different |
| 14:33.17 | amro | the corrupted blood incident can at most be used to study bullying |
| 14:33.51 | Lopeppeppy | I didn't say they were the same. But it's still a valid insight into human social behavior. |
| 14:33.57 | amro | yes, I don't deny that |
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| 14:34.11 | amro | I'm saying it's not relevant to terrorism |
| 14:34.28 | Ackis | Fisker: http://iamhilarious.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/apple-worm.jpg |
| 14:34.39 | p3lim | in (general) html, would this work?: <script type='text/html' src='http://github.com/p3lim/tumblr/blob/master/content.html'/> |
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| 14:35.43 | Ackis | Fisker: https://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/cd1b8e0b-1f50-4bb7-8a89-5fc459073774.jpg |
| 14:36.43 | amro | p3lim: don't browsers ignore everything in script except text/javascript? |
| 14:37.21 | p3lim | hm no |
| 14:37.34 | amro | if you need to pull in html, use ajax |
| 14:37.43 | p3lim | how |
| 14:37.47 | p3lim | don't know ajax |
| 14:37.53 | haste | ajax == javascript |
| 14:37.58 | amro | yes |
| 14:38.08 | amro | it's just a catchy name for using javascript to load xml/htm |
| 14:38.09 | p3lim | yeah I know _what_ ajax is, just not how to use it |
| 14:38.10 | amro | html* |
| 14:38.20 | haste | learning JS isn't hard |
| 14:38.22 | amro | it's easy, google for XmlHttpRequest |
| 14:38.24 | amro | or ajax |
| 14:38.32 | jnwhiteh | http://johannburkard.de/blog/programming/javascript/inc-a-super-tiny-client-side-include-javascript-jquery-plugin.html |
| 14:38.42 | jnwhiteh | <p class="inc:footer.html">This text will be replaced |
| 14:38.42 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:38.46 | jnwhiteh | for example |
| 14:39.21 | p3lim | I'll read up on that, thanks amro |
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| 14:39.49 | amro | although if possible, a serverside include would be better than both approaches if you know what to include beforehand |
| 14:39.55 | jnwhiteh | indeedy |
| 14:41.35 | haste | no, let's write our static page on the client side! |
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| 14:41.45 | p3lim | so, if i'd want to include the body from a different file/location |
| 14:42.21 | p3lim | <body class='http://something/body.html'> ? |
| 14:42.28 | p3lim | with jquery that is |
| 14:43.01 | p3lim | i might have completely misunderstood though |
| 14:43.11 | haste | I think you should read some more |
| 14:43.25 | jnwhiteh | http://www.ajaxlines.com/ajax/stuff/article/include_file_in_html.php might be useful |
| 14:43.34 | jnwhiteh | but yeah, there's thousands of resources online ot do what you want to do |
| 14:43.43 | haste | if not more :P |
| 14:44.04 | jnwhiteh | I prefer to use prototype or jquery to ensure it works properly =) |
| 14:44.47 | p3lim | just looking for a clean/solid way to do it |
| 14:45.18 | haste | I wouldn't call JS a clean/solid solution |
| 14:45.33 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 14:45.38 | jnwhiteh | use an iframe |
| 14:45.41 | haste | at least not when it comes to including static files from a static location |
| 14:45.42 | jnwhiteh | do it on the server-side |
| 14:48.24 | p3lim | I _could_ do the html part on the server side, but i'd like to keep it on github |
| 14:48.37 | p3lim | it just the body that I need |
| 14:50.20 | airtonix | bodyTxt =""; $.ajax(remoteurl).get(blah blah).onsucced(function(repsonse){ bodyTxt = $(response).find("body").html() }) |
| 14:50.30 | airtonix | soemthing like that ? |
| 14:51.11 | airtonix | not exact, but you get the idea. |
| 14:51.39 | amro | that's a really weird setup |
| 14:51.47 | amro | why not update the html from github with a script? |
| 14:52.25 | Cide | never do ajax without a library |
| 14:52.27 | p3lim | rather copypaste than writing that script |
| 14:52.32 | Cide | s/library/jquery/ |
| 14:52.37 | Cide | s/a// |
| 14:52.41 | Cide | -_- |
| 14:52.49 | Cide | never do ajax without jquery |
| 14:52.49 | airtonix | :) |
| 14:52.58 | p3lim | lol |
| 14:53.06 | Cide | XMLHttpRequest is too unstandardized |
| 14:53.18 | Cide | well too cross-browser incompatible I guess |
| 14:54.01 | airtonix | http://api.jquery.com/jQuery.get/ |
| 14:54.10 | p3lim | i decided to keep the html part on the server side, since it wont change much anywas |
| 14:54.12 | p3lim | but |
| 14:54.13 | p3lim | <script type='text/css' src='http://github.com/p3lim/tumblr/blob/master/style.css'/> |
| 14:54.19 | p3lim | this don't work neither |
| 14:54.26 | Cide | why would it? |
| 14:54.27 | p3lim | is javascript the only thing that works? |
| 14:54.29 | Cide | use <link> for css |
| 14:54.32 | airtonix | ^ |
| 14:54.58 | airtonix | <link href="style.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css"/> |
| 14:54.59 | p3lim | thanks Cide |
| 14:55.00 | Cide | there are/have been a few other languages |
| 14:55.09 | Cide | I believe vbscript was supported by ie once upon a time |
| 14:55.14 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:55.32 | airtonix | vomitnBileScript |
| 14:57.09 | flyhard | Don't you just love IE? I mean, every version has different implementations of stuff, and none of them works propperly or even standards compliant... |
| 14:57.29 | airtonix | who are you? |
| 14:57.35 | amro | IE is why web developers make so much |
| 14:57.45 | airtonix | don't knock it |
| 14:57.51 | flyhard | true... |
| 14:58.08 | airtonix | amro, you managed to find a positive about IE |
| 14:58.21 | amro | I could find something positive about Fisker |
| 14:58.31 | flyhard | But in the office, we are always cursing at IE, because something works everywhere, except IE |
| 14:58.49 | flyhard | Only the development tools don't work in IE |
| 14:58.57 | airtonix | lulz |
| 14:59.24 | amro | yeah |
| 14:59.27 | amro | debugging IE is a pita |
| 14:59.43 | airtonix | i dont bother anymore to be honest |
| 14:59.58 | Fisker | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 15:00.08 | Fisker | i was being wiped out by barbarians and my game crashed |
| 15:00.08 | airtonix | i just say, well... my free browser seems to load the page much faster |
| 15:00.12 | Fisker | i was totally winning :( |
| 15:00.16 | cbreak_work | Fisker: you're not happy that Qt 4.7 finally got released? |
| 15:00.43 | airtonix | Fisker, doing your group orgy thing again ? |
| 15:01.04 | Cide | ie9 is quite standards compliant |
| 15:01.20 | amro | cbreak_work: not since it's been labelled nokia rather than trolltech I guess |
| 15:01.27 | amro | nobody has ie9 |
| 15:01.32 | Cide | yet |
| 15:01.32 | Fisker | i hate that as well cbreak |
| 15:01.34 | Fisker | qt sucks |
| 15:01.36 | Cide | it's not even released |
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| 15:01.40 | amro | exactly |
| 15:01.48 | amro | in the meantime, supporting IE is a pain in the ass |
| 15:01.49 | airtonix | why |
| 15:01.57 | airtonix | Fisker, WHY! |
| 15:02.01 | amro | and even after ie9 is release, you will still need to support the crappy versions for a few years |
| 15:02.01 | airtonix | byw harl |
| 15:02.05 | Cide | supporting ie7 and up isn't that difficult |
| 15:02.18 | Fisker | isn't it that open source graphical window shit airtonix ? |
| 15:02.20 | Fisker | because that's why |
| 15:02.24 | Fisker | it looks like shit |
| 15:02.27 | airtonix | Cide, coming from the guy who lives in perpetual rage |
| 15:02.31 | Fisker | It's like mac, except worse |
| 15:02.39 | Cide | I definitely don't live in perpetual rage |
| 15:02.47 | airtonix | i think you do |
| 15:02.52 | Cide | ask amro |
| 15:02.53 | airtonix | simmering hatred |
| 15:02.56 | Cide | I laugh at his fail all the time |
| 15:03.12 | amro | except the times when you fail harder than me |
| 15:03.15 | amro | which is all the time |
| 15:03.23 | Cide | and then I laugh at myself |
| 15:04.08 | airtonix | Fisker, maybe you need to discover themes |
| 15:05.01 | airtonix | Fisker, also, you know that when you're walking around that you are not supposed to drag your face around along the ground. |
| 15:05.15 | amro | maybe you shouldn't ask a guy who doesn't work with GUI APIs about GUI APIs |
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| 15:05.33 | airtonix | nou |
| 15:05.54 | Lopeppeppy | That's not his face, it's his knuckles. |
| 15:06.04 | cog|work | attacks Fisker with female ninja magic vagina bubbles from hell |
| 15:06.14 | Lopeppeppy | ... |
| 15:06.18 | Lopeppeppy | covers her eyes. |
| 15:06.23 | airtonix | kek |
| 15:06.26 | amro | that probably exists in some doujin fighting game |
| 15:06.41 | Wobin | http://www.dangerousminds.net/comments/female_ninja_magic_vagina_bubbles_from_hell/ |
| 15:06.42 | cog|work | http://www.boingboing.net/2010/09/17/female-ninja-attacks.html |
| 15:07.21 | amro | or a movie. |
| 15:07.54 | Wobin | only the japanese |
| 15:08.01 | airtonix | fiskers to busy gibbering in a puddle of his own excitement |
| 15:08.04 | airtonix | too |
| 15:08.17 | amro | you mean he's wallowing in a pit of his own fail |
| 15:09.45 | Wobin | ahahaah http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=cache:www.lmgtfy.com |
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| 15:13.17 | amro | so I heard you like lmgtfy... |
| 15:14.01 | Arrowmaster | i hate it |
| 15:15.35 | Fisker | airtonix |
| 15:15.49 | airtonix | what you fucking peasant |
| 15:15.54 | TC-Work | it has its purpose Arrowmaster |
| 15:16.05 | Fisker | All other window managers i know of manage to do a good job at not being buttfuck ugly and assbackwards as hell without me having to "discover" anything |
| 15:16.12 | Fisker | so i do not see where you're going with that |
| 15:16.15 | Arrowmaster | yeah over use of javascript and some ad network redirect thrown in |
| 15:16.33 | amro | Qt is not a window manager |
| 15:16.39 | airtonix | kek |
| 15:16.55 | airtonix | Fisker, go back your puddle of excrement |
| 15:17.51 | Ackis | http://www.crunchgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/planetmichael.jpg |
| 15:17.52 | Ackis | kill me now |
| 15:17.56 | Ackis | a Michael Jackson MMO |
| 15:18.05 | amro | kills Ackis |
| 15:18.28 | Fisker | whatever it is amro |
| 15:18.38 | Fisker | point is |
| 15:18.42 | Fisker | QT apps look like shit |
| 15:18.44 | Fisker | other apps don't |
| 15:18.45 | amro | I dunno what you're talking about with discovering anything |
| 15:18.49 | Fisker | QT henceforth is shit |
| 15:18.52 | amro | qt apps look fine |
| 15:18.56 | Fisker | no. |
| 15:18.59 | Humbedooh | yes. |
| 15:19.02 | Fisker | no. |
| 15:19.03 | amro | like I said |
| 15:19.08 | amro | what you think is immaterial |
| 15:19.14 | amro | you wouldn't know a good api if it fucked you in the ass |
| 15:19.29 | Fisker | api's don't fuck me in the ass |
| 15:19.32 | Fisker | i fuck it in its ass |
| 15:20.05 | amro | exactly my point |
| 15:20.07 | airtonix | says the guy with large black dildos |
| 15:20.09 | amro | now go back to fialing at civ5 |
| 15:20.51 | Fisker | what's fialing anyway? |
| 15:21.05 | amro | failing so hard that it needs a new spelling |
| 15:21.27 | Fisker | you must be talking of yourself |
| 15:21.48 | Cide | qt apps can be made to look exactly like most other apps with little to no effort |
| 15:22.11 | amro | give an example of an ugly at app |
| 15:22.16 | amro | qt* |
| 15:22.30 | amro | I'm using a qt app on windows now and it's using the native look |
| 15:23.10 | Ackis | Fisker: have you played R.U.S.E.? |
| 15:23.18 | Fisker | only the demo and beta Ackis |
| 15:23.21 | Arrowmaster | QT apps looked ugly for me on linux until i had to make a ~/.fonts.conf to set up antialiasing |
| 15:24.05 | cog|work | qt doesn't use native widgets on linux |
| 15:24.15 | Ackis | Fisker: was it good? is the PC one GFWL at all? |
| 15:25.48 | Ackis | Hockey's back tonight! But remember: If the crowd is silent and nothing interesting happens, you have accidentally gone to a baseball game. lol |
| 15:25.56 | Fisker | it's staem only i think? |
| 15:26.14 | airtonix | stamen |
| 15:26.50 | amro | Arrowmaster: your distro fails then |
| 15:27.14 | Arrowmaster | amro: has nothing to do with distro |
| 15:27.17 | Ackis | Fisker: some steam games are GFWL as well (DoW2, GTA4, RE5) |
| 15:27.31 | amro | sure it does, why wasn't it configured to do that in the first place? |
| 15:27.56 | airtonix | amro, nou |
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| 15:28.01 | Arrowmaster | qt doesnt look for font settings in the same place gnome puts them and gnome doesnt write to ~/.fonts.conf anymore |
| 15:28.27 | airtonix | three cheers for fractured configuration policies |
| 15:28.38 | Arrowmaster | exactly |
| 15:28.51 | Arrowmaster | which is why i only use QT apps if i have no other choice |
| 15:28.54 | amro | Arrowmaster: it's your distro's job to bridge the gap when you install qt or vice versa |
| 15:29.43 | airtonix | amro, would be nice if these things provided the means to externally specifie where our configuration scheme exists |
| 15:30.00 | airtonix | but instead we are expected to recompile from soruce at every release |
| 15:30.08 | airtonix | source |
| 15:30.28 | amro | I've never had to do it |
| 15:30.35 | amro | again, don't use a distro that fails |
| 15:30.42 | airtonix | yeah because the people that maintain your distro do it |
| 15:30.46 | amro | exactly |
| 15:30.53 | airtonix | but : shouldn't have to |
| 15:31.04 | amro | in the meantime, they do |
| 15:31.14 | amro | if the distro doesn't preconfigure shit, then it's worthless |
| 15:31.16 | airtonix | smug bastard |
| 15:31.17 | Arrowmaster | what distro do you use? ubuntu? |
| 15:31.21 | amro | yes |
| 15:31.33 | Arrowmaster | sorry you arent allowed into the conversation |
| 15:31.34 | amro | I'm not smug I'm realistic |
| 15:31.34 | airtonix | inb4 something something something |
| 15:31.56 | Kalroth | lfs is the best, the rest of the distros are for Windows users |
| 15:32.00 | amro | why? because I use a distro that doesn't get in my way? |
| 15:32.07 | airtonix | Kalroth, lulz |
| 15:32.15 | haste | *facepalm* |
| 15:32.26 | haste | you use the distro you like, eod |
| 15:32.29 | Kalroth | even Slackware is for people that spoon with Bill Gates |
| 15:32.40 | haste | being elitist about it is just retarded |
| 15:32.40 | alestane | 'I was Googling inkjet labels in laser printers and got a Yahoo answer. One of the related questions was "How do I set my laser printer on stun?"' |
| 15:32.41 | Kalroth | haste: NO UBUNTU SUX |
| 15:33.03 | haste | 1729.20| haste | you use the distro you like, eod |
| 15:33.04 | airtonix | alestane, is there an app for that ? |
| 15:33.13 | Arrowmaster | you use a distro that goes so far patching everything in it you cant really call Gnome in it Gnome anymore because theyve done so much to it |
| 15:33.19 | amro | my point is that upstream is not responsible for harmony between different packages |
| 15:33.26 | amro | which is okay, because I don't use gnome |
| 15:33.28 | amro | I run kde |
| 15:33.33 | airtonix | smug bastard |
| 15:33.37 | Kalroth | haha |
| 15:33.47 | Arrowmaster | so you use kubuntu |
| 15:33.59 | amro | care to contribute something relevant airtronix? |
| 15:34.05 | amro | you're missing my point |
| 15:34.08 | airtonix | no |
| 15:34.13 | amro | upstream is not responsible for harmony between packages |
| 15:34.19 | airtonix | i would rather harangue from the sidelines |
| 15:34.25 | amro | if your distro provides package A and B, that means your distro should make them play nice |
| 15:34.34 | amro | ys, it would be nice if upstream did that |
| 15:34.44 | amro | but when they don't, the responsibility lies with the distro maintainers |
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| 15:34.53 | Arrowmaster | Qt upstream is responsible when they expect Qt to be usable in anything except KDE |
| 15:34.58 | Kalroth | http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kdegnome this article proves that Gnome users are people that wants an Mac OS X UI, while KDE users wants functionality |
| 15:35.20 | haste | shrugs |
| 15:35.29 | amro | Arrowmaster: it's totally usable |
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| 15:35.44 | haste | I used to use Gnome before, and it wasn't really about looks |
| 15:35.51 | haste | it was about what was pleasent to use and configure |
| 15:35.55 | amro | gnome's strength is simplicity |
| 15:35.58 | Kalroth | Of course, I personally dislike both Gnome and KDE |
| 15:36.05 | amro | a result of that is its weakness: lack of options |
| 15:36.15 | Arrowmaster | amro: yes they have a qt4-config for configuring the Qt look when not in KDE except it doesnt work |
| 15:36.16 | haste | yes it's annoying to have to dig through gconf for some stuff, but I'd take that over digging through the mess that was KDE |
| 15:36.25 | airtonix | kde is to visually verbose for me |
| 15:36.27 | Kalroth | If you're going to run a system with a graphical UI, then you might as well do it correct and install Windows 7 |
| 15:36.28 | airtonix | too |
| 15:36.47 | airtonix | why |
| 15:36.50 | haste | Kalroth, you have to be the most elitist linux user I've seen in years |
| 15:36.51 | Kalroth | Where's Fisker when I need a high-five |
| 15:37.13 | haste | I hope you and Stallman get along nicely |
| 15:37.13 | Kalroth | haste: wow, you and I travel in vastly different communities! |
| 15:37.15 | airtonix | busy with his puddle |
| 15:37.31 | haste | I don't travel communities! |
| 15:37.39 | haste | I don't try to push my linux usage onto others either |
| 15:37.47 | Kalroth | Actually I was only trolling, I don't really like Linux |
| 15:37.51 | airtonix | he's morally elite ! |
| 15:37.53 | Kalroth | It's a lesser operating system |
| 15:38.17 | amro | stallman doesn't even use a browser |
| 15:38.18 | airtonix | Kalroth, sorry, but the hardon in your pants says other wise |
| 15:38.32 | Kalroth | airtonix: that is because of you, not Linux *teehee* |
| 15:38.39 | airtonix | oh shii |
| 15:38.48 | Kalroth | stallman telnets to port 80 and types GET / |
| 15:38.53 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B7qnzzxjhU |
| 15:38.58 | TC-Work | oh look, the conversation went from bad to worse |
| 15:39.04 | amro | Arrowmaster: I can't really argue there. from my experience it works even on windows, and this is from developing apps with qt |
| 15:39.05 | Kalroth | unpossible! |
| 15:39.30 | Arrowmaster | yeah in windows it only has one place to look at for settings |
| 15:39.37 | Arrowmaster | same with OSX |
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| 15:42.34 | amro | besides, that's a problem with linux in general |
| 15:42.51 | amro | and I could just as easily blame gtk for misplaced font config |
| 15:43.13 | amro | it's not a valid criticism of what is essentially an API |
| 15:43.41 | airtonix | amro, when you say simplicty = missed functionality i disagree |
| 15:43.47 | Arrowmaster | not gtk, gnome |
| 15:43.59 | amro | I did not say that |
| 15:44.04 | amro | I said lack of options |
| 15:44.16 | airtonix | example ? |
| 15:44.21 | Arrowmaster | but the problem is with both gnome and kde, from what ive heard they both used to write to ~/.fonts.conf but now neither do |
| 15:44.23 | amro | gnome apps aren't anywhere near as customizable as kde apps |
| 15:44.29 | airtonix | example ? |
| 15:44.39 | amro | compare gedit settings menu with kate |
| 15:44.42 | amro | just for starters |
| 15:44.46 | amro | heck |
| 15:44.47 | airtonix | specifically ? |
| 15:44.55 | amro | do it |
| 15:44.56 | amro | you'll see |
| 15:44.57 | airtonix | geidt is quite extensible |
| 15:45.03 | mikma | anyone happens to know where the READY and NOT READY icons are located? |
| 15:45.07 | amro | I said lack of options |
| 15:45.15 | mikma | they might be in the same file or so |
| 15:45.20 | airtonix | what kind of options ? |
| 15:45.24 | amro | I didn't say you can't extend it to have those options |
| 15:45.28 | amro | ffs, just fucking look |
| 15:45.29 | airtonix | (i use gedit all the time ) |
| 15:45.32 | Arrowmaster | Brasero is a poor excuse for a burning app |
| 15:45.34 | amro | then look at kate |
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| 15:45.40 | amro | there's a billion more options |
| 15:45.45 | airtonix | like ? |
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| 15:47.22 | amro | yeah, let me verbally list every option.. |
| 15:47.25 | amro | or, you could take a fucking look |
| 15:47.34 | airtonix | no just name a killer feature |
| 15:48.06 | amro | sigh |
| 15:48.14 | amro | why does it always have to be a fight |
| 15:48.18 | airtonix | keeping in mind this list : http://live.gnome.org/Gedit/Plugins |
| 15:48.19 | amro | I just said it lacks options, stop being so defensive |
| 15:48.27 | amro | I didn't say it lacks killer options |
| 15:48.29 | amro | or that it's bad |
| 15:48.33 | amro | it's just not as customizable |
| 15:48.41 | amro | which is a fact apparent as soon as you compare the settings menus |
| 15:48.51 | amro | now stop trying to turn this into an editor war |
| 15:49.54 | airtonix | well don't make those assertions |
| 15:50.01 | airtonix | if you don't want to back them up |
| 15:50.08 | airtonix | because so far i dont see any diff |
| 15:52.05 | airtonix | amro, where do i get more colour themes for kate ? |
| 15:52.05 | sylvanaar_atwork | hey, you should all just drop your editors and use IntelliJ + my Lua plugin |
| 15:52.26 | amro | airtonix: how can you not see any difference? screenshots |
| 15:52.30 | airtonix | sylvanaar_atwork, you use ipads your argument is irrelevant |
| 15:52.35 | amro | unless gedit got 5 more options tabs in the last 2 years |
| 15:52.39 | amro | I don't see how that's possible |
| 15:52.43 | amro | also, i don't know, I make my own themse |
| 15:52.46 | amro | but probably on kde-look.org |
| 15:52.50 | airtonix | well kate uses an option tree |
| 15:53.08 | amro | does gedit have an integrated color scheme editor yet? |
| 15:53.15 | sylvanaar_atwork | i have screenshots though: http://bitbucket.org/sylvanaar2/lua-for-idea/wiki/Home |
| 15:54.08 | airtonix | amro, how does the autocomplete work ? |
| 15:54.24 | amro | a lot like gedit's |
| 15:54.44 | airtonix | the offical one or the on on the top of that plugin list ? |
| 15:55.03 | amro | I don't recall, probably whatever was bundled with it |
| 15:55.12 | amro | but then again, I don't recall kate's autocomp as much either |
| 15:55.26 | amro | I disable it since I don't need it for the languages I edit in kate |
| 15:55.30 | amro | I use kdevelop for C++ |
| 15:55.39 | amro | which has sexy, sexy semantic highlighting and completion |
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| 15:57.05 | amro | sylvanaar_atwork: intellij sounds proprietary |
| 15:58.03 | sylvanaar_atwork | http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/free_java_ide.html |
| 15:59.30 | Ackis | this itunes thing, I'm assuming you're restricted to 1 PC to listen to the music and need iTunes installed? |
| 16:00.20 | sylvanaar_atwork | what itunes thing |
| 16:00.25 | sylvanaar_atwork | itunes? |
| 16:00.27 | Ackis | yeah |
| 16:00.29 | sylvanaar_atwork | 5 |
| 16:00.30 | Ackis | I've never used it |
| 16:00.44 | Ackis | but I assume it's the best way to get music/soundtrcks? |
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| 16:00.48 | Lunessa | station |
| 16:01.07 | sylvanaar_atwork | i like amazon's music market |
| 16:01.12 | cog|work | station |
| 16:01.21 | amro | sylvanaar_atwork: that plugin looks really neat |
| 16:01.25 | durcyn | Ackis: path of least legal resistance for the casual user. "best"? fuck no. |
| 16:01.34 | amro | I might use it to displace netbeans as my java/ruby ide as well |
| 16:01.34 | durcyn | *cough*soulseek*cough* |
| 16:01.44 | amro | once that page loads I might be able to decide |
| 16:01.44 | alestane | Between today and last night, Lunessa, Kat has spent over five hours on the phone with tech support and not solved a goddamn thing. In fact, more stuff is breaking. |
| 16:02.04 | sylvanaar_atwork | amro: try it out - im looking for some feedback on what features to work on |
| 16:02.09 | Lunessa | alestane: On her new phone? |
| 16:02.21 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Lunessa. |
| 16:02.32 | amro | sylvanaar_atwork: do you have another link describing that IDE? that page still won't load |
| 16:02.53 | Lunessa | Hi there Peppy-dear. |
| 16:03.13 | alestane | No, her Evo is fine. She maintains the office's ticket-tracking software, and it's apparently in a state of cascade failure or something. |
| 16:03.13 | sylvanaar_atwork | amro: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34752 |
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| 16:03.32 | Lunessa | Oh. Which application are they using? |
| 16:04.35 | Ackis | I found a better solution... the library |
| 16:04.37 | Ackis | lulz |
| 16:04.48 | Ackis | Halo 1, Halo 2, and Halo 3 ODST soundtracks on order |
| 16:05.05 | Lopeppeppy | I'd love me some ticketing software that worked, IMO |
| 16:06.01 | Fisker | oh no you didn't |
| 16:06.05 | Lunessa | We use software by FrontRaange called HEAT, but an older version and there's a committee looking into various alternatives. |
| 16:06.19 | durcyn | Lopeppeppy: uh, there are way too many open source issue tracking systems out there, and they all work to varying degrees |
| 16:06.24 | sylvanaar_atwork | http://www.fogcreek.com/fogbugz/ |
| 16:06.42 | amro | sylvanaar_atwork: I mean a replacement for this http://www.jetbrains.com/idea/free_java_ide.html |
| 16:06.56 | sylvanaar_atwork | oh |
| 16:07.00 | amro | joel creeps me out |
| 16:07.10 | sylvanaar_atwork | joel is sorta wierd |
| 16:07.31 | sylvanaar_atwork | http://download.jetbrains.com/idea/ideaIC-9.0.3.exe |
| 16:07.55 | sylvanaar_atwork | i dunno if there is a mirror anywhere |
| 16:08.03 | amro | that worked |
| 16:08.07 | amro | it's crossplatform I assume? |
| 16:09.04 | sylvanaar_atwork | yes |
| 16:09.09 | sylvanaar_atwork | i have run it on mac and pc |
| 16:09.10 | Lopeppeppy | durcyn, most require access to a server to run, and I can't get that. I did get into the work system, and am dismayed to find I can't even so much as get an excel spreadsheet of my tickets. |
| 16:10.09 | sylvanaar_atwork | oh but i linked you the windows installer |
| 16:10.18 | amro | it's fine, I'm on windows atm |
| 16:13.02 | airtonix | amro, is the only way i can use kates snippets by dragging and dropping them ? |
| 16:13.14 | airtonix | or can i trigger them with some hotkey?> |
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| 16:18.33 | amro | airtonix: I think there's a hotkey, but I wouldn't know |
| 16:18.35 | amro | never used snippets |
| 16:18.40 | amro | I only used the symbol viewer plugin |
| 16:19.07 | amro | I use kate because of the awesome hybrid vi mode it has going |
| 16:19.23 | airtonix | what does that mean |
| 16:19.55 | Shirik | Back in the day, druids had to take crushing blows, right? |
| 16:20.07 | airtonix | like yesterday? |
| 16:20.19 | airtonix | or are we talking more than five days |
| 16:20.30 | Shirik | ... |
| 16:20.31 | airtonix | because last week is oldskool |
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| 16:21.24 | Shirik | tekkub, you would know |
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| 16:24.07 | amro | Shirik: if I recall yeah |
| 16:24.20 | amro | airtonix: you can switch between normal kate and vi mode with a hotkey |
| 16:24.30 | TC-Work | anyone know what a AMD Athlon XP 2400+ would be equivalent to in intel? |
| 16:24.41 | airtonix | 386 |
| 16:24.52 | Arrowmaster | TC-Work: 2.4ghz intel |
| 16:24.58 | airtonix | maybe a 486dx2 |
| 16:25.33 | TC-Work | is the athlon newer or older than Celeron? |
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| 16:28.12 | cog|work | TC-Work: when they had the ####+ names they were trying to compete directly with intel CPUs at that MHz |
| 16:28.53 | foxlit | "Arrowmaster: TC-Work: 2.4ghz intel" a 2.4Ghz intel what? |
| 16:28.58 | nevcairiel | p4 |
| 16:29.07 | foxlit | world of difference between p4 and c2q :) |
| 16:30.03 | Fisker | i hate |
| 16:30.41 | foxlit | And Yet It Moves is actually quite cool. |
| 16:30.47 | foxlit | However, short. |
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| 16:32.02 | TC-Work | thanks all |
| 16:33.43 | Fisker | and yet it isn't quite cool foxlit |
| 16:34.47 | alestane | She's using Numara's Track-it, Lunessa, but now her WIndows update server has also collapsed. |
| 16:37.02 | Lunessa | alestane: Sounds like bad news all around. And Numara is one of the products the committee here was looking at. Maybe I'll mention that it isn't sucha good idea. |
| 16:37.15 | alestane | Gotta love getting errors like "called object is not a function" rather than "You left a comma out, stupid." (The real cause of the problem.) |
| 16:37.59 | alestane | I think you'd need to talk to her about her experience for a real skinny, but it's not real optimistic at the moment. |
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| 16:43.59 | Ackis | http://www.blizzconsweepstakes.com/ |
| 16:47.59 | amro | it's a con |
| 16:48.05 | airtonix | amro, i like the way kate highlights the folding sections when you mouse over the folding control |
| 16:48.16 | amro | yeah that's sexy |
| 16:48.26 | amro | but the folding control could use a facelift |
| 16:48.33 | amro | looks too plain |
| 16:49.37 | airtonix | do i have to use the full kde desktop to get rid of this massive secondary toolbar : http://imagebin.org/115017 |
| 16:51.24 | Fisker | i Ackised you |
| 16:52.30 | amro | wow |
| 16:52.35 | amro | I've never seen that toolbar |
| 16:52.57 | amro | can you remove it when you rightclick? |
| 16:53.08 | foxlit | Ackis: clearly run by fisker, too: Name Server: NS1.GRATISDNS.DK |
| 16:53.12 | airtonix | doesn't provide context menu |
| 16:53.51 | amro | right click the main toolbar |
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| 16:54.34 | airtonix | only shows "main toolbar" |
| 16:54.35 | Ackis | http://computerschool.org/computers/google/ |
| 16:56.14 | amro | airtonix: what distro? and what kate/kde version? (help->about) |
| 16:56.41 | Flowy | can I have the SendChatMessage() function on event "PLAYER_LEAVING_WORLD"? |
| 16:57.07 | amro | only one way to find out! |
| 16:59.28 | Fisker | b |
| 16:59.30 | Fisker | c |
| 16:59.45 | Fisker | what is foxlit ? |
| 17:00.58 | Lopeppeppy | a meat popsicle? |
| 17:07.43 | Ackis | Fisker: https://twitter.com/jpasula/status/25135960981 |
| 17:11.10 | Ackis | 15 minutes ago: news says suspicious package is nothing... 1 minute ago: e-mail from HR saying there's a suspicious package to found and to worry about it if you're going near that area. |
| 17:11.11 | Ackis | wtf |
| 17:11.31 | Ackis | I probably just did a career limiting move by replying to the HR person who sent it saying pretty much the same thing. |
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| 17:14.36 | TC-Work | Ackis: you work in security? |
| 17:14.51 | airtonix | kek |
| 17:15.22 | airtonix | not anymore |
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| 17:17.39 | amro | that's reassuring |
| 17:17.43 | amro | telling people to worry |
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| 17:21.55 | airtonix | kde4 |
| 17:22.03 | airtonix | -_- |
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| 17:41.03 | TC-Work | has anyone tried OGame? |
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| 17:41.47 | Ackis | yeah |
| 17:42.04 | Ackis | it's fun for a while then someone 100x your size destroys you |
| 17:45.15 | Ackis | and then you cry |
| 17:47.32 | Ackis | https://cheezdailysquee.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/fd985efd-1051-4191-8a55-7fb153529487.jpg POM!!!!!! |
| 17:48.04 | alestane | How long do I have to bake that to turn it into a real dog? |
| 17:48.17 | Ackis | :( |
| 17:48.58 | Ackis | https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs320.ash2/60019_433025150657_539915657_5640961_3495502_n.jpg that's my Pom |
| 17:49.18 | alestane | Sorry, that was mostly inspired by the fact that I'd swear that looks more like a stuffed toy than an animal. The sweater doesn't help. |
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| 17:50.41 | Ackis | I'm honour bound to link any and all Pom's I see in IRC. |
| 17:52.09 | Lopeppeppy | Eeew! |
| 17:53.16 | Ackis | ? |
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| 17:59.49 | Lunessa | Poms are not real dogs. |
| 18:02.14 | Ackis | you're not a real dog! |
| 18:03.13 | nevcairiel | so they are adding access to the guild chat from outside the game |
| 18:03.20 | nevcairiel | if you buy the premium mobile armory |
| 18:03.24 | TC-Work | Shirik: did you ever get something to convert films and slides to digital? |
| 18:03.36 | Shirik | I got a scanner |
| 18:03.43 | Shirik | not sure if that's really an acceptable solution |
| 18:03.46 | Ackis | nevcairiel: whispers as well apparently |
| 18:04.02 | nevcairiel | reads like only to guild members |
| 18:04.35 | Ackis | Guild Chat will allow you to chat with your guildmates via Guild Chat, Officer Chat, and Whispers. |
| 18:04.44 | nevcairiel | my point exactly |
| 18:04.57 | nevcairiel | "with your guildmates via [...] Whisper" |
| 18:05.30 | cog|work | oh... |
| 18:05.33 | cog|work | SC patch... |
| 18:05.48 | nevcairiel | They would've made a far bigger wave around that feature if it were whisper to everyone, imho |
| 18:06.03 | zenzelezz | I'm sure it would be abused, but I wish WoW allowed chat bots like Anarchy Online did |
| 18:06.04 | nevcairiel | whisper just being mentioned in a sub-sentence sounds like its limited |
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| 18:08.31 | TC-Work | Shirik: http://woot.com/ |
| 18:11.41 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: i just beat your score on rocketfight on outpost by doubling it |
| 18:12.01 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: and you had 8000 on that one |
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| 18:14.54 | amro | wootoff killer |
| 18:14.56 | amro | if only |
| 18:15.22 | amro | they should change the tagline to One Day, 379 Deals |
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| 18:18.07 | Lunessa | Ackis - linkee? |
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| 18:22.39 | TC-Work | Lunessa: when i dowubt mmo-c it http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/1982-Guild-Chat-Coming-Soon-to-Mobile-Armory |
| 18:22.44 | TC-Work | doubt* |
| 18:23.02 | Lunessa | rocking. thanks |
| 18:24.59 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:26.50 | alestane | Now that's a warlock item title: Horns of Justified Sins |
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| 18:30.57 | cog|work | first comment "Sweet, now I can alert my guildies that I missed a raid due to sex...DURING the sex. |
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| 18:33.48 | Lunessa | alestane: All my sins are justified. I guess I should get some horns? |
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| 18:39.28 | amro | Lunessa: you should commit some unjustified sins |
| 18:40.14 | alestane | "Insane Ghoul: He carries the looking glass. Also, he is insane." |
| 18:40.59 | amro | I'm more intrigued by the concept of a sane ghoul |
| 18:41.42 | alestane | They're now introducing the concept of green chill gas around level 20, with the rotting horrors in Duskwood. |
| 18:45.47 | Lunessa | amro: For those, I will need a lovely volunteer... |
| 18:46.04 | amro | check with Adys |
| 18:46.14 | Lunessa | Wrong plumbing. |
| 18:46.25 | amro | that's what makes it unjustified. |
| 18:46.49 | Lunessa | But it's no fun if it's a sin I don't much want to commit, now does it? |
| 18:47.03 | amro | truth |
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| 18:56.37 | amro | regular expressions were explicitly designed so that you have no idea what the fuck you wrote them for when reading them months later |
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| 18:59.19 | Humbedooh | true, true |
| 19:00.13 | Lunessa | Regexs - bringing the WTF to code maintenance forever. |
| 19:00.29 | Zhinjio | so true |
| 19:01.17 | alestane | A syntax in search of semantics. |
| 19:01.33 | Humbedooh | though, in retrospect, it's just a lame excuse we make since we didn't bother to comment our own code properly :\ |
| 19:01.37 | Lunessa | I had this moment years ago, where I cranked open a project at work and was like "What maniac wrote this shit?" then I scrolled up into the header comments block and discovered it was my code from 3 years earlier. |
| 19:02.20 | Humbedooh | s/didn't/never/ |
| 19:02.23 | Lunessa | At least I'd had the good sense to add comments. |
| 19:02.27 | Zhinjio | I generally do comment pretty well. I do love, however, finding some code comments that I wrote when I was really tired.... I found one yesterday... lemme see if I can find that again |
| 19:02.55 | amro | I write comments |
| 19:03.04 | amro | unfortunately, they're not always as helpful as I would like |
| 19:03.07 | amro | take this one for instance |
| 19:03.13 | amro | //FIXME: this is dumb |
| 19:03.52 | Humbedooh | I got ones that says "drags need to die!" :\ |
| 19:04.02 | Humbedooh | ofc I meant drag'n'drops! |
| 19:04.51 | Zhinjio | ha, here it is: |
| 19:04.52 | Zhinjio | // I'm going to cop out and just use fgetc. I'm sure there's a more elegant way to do |
| 19:04.52 | Zhinjio | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:05.06 | alestane | I suppose you could always include regexes in your code as variables with sensible names. |
| 19:07.19 | amro | alestane: this was tucked in a call to sed in a shell script |
| 19:07.33 | alestane | Shell scripts can use variables. |
| 19:08.01 | amro | yep, but this was done in a hurry |
| 19:08.28 | Fisker | hey alestane |
| 19:08.44 | amro | die Fisker |
| 19:08.49 | amro | I mean hi Fisker |
| 19:08.52 | Fisker | hi amro |
| 19:09.52 | cog|work | hi Fisker |
| 19:09.54 | Fisker | i lold btw amro |
| 19:09.55 | cog|work | I mean die Fisker |
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| 19:10.12 | Fisker | hey cog|work |
| 19:10.15 | Fisker | i mean fuck you cog|work |
| 19:10.18 | Fisker | get it? |
| 19:10.24 | cog|work | zomgburn |
| 19:10.56 | Fisker | yeah |
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| 19:20.39 | Fisker | cog|work |
| 19:20.44 | Fisker | i will be forced to end you :( |
| 19:20.54 | cog|work | k |
| 19:21.58 | Fisker | are you ready? |
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| 19:22.38 | cog|work | not yet... should be in ~55 years |
| 19:24.38 | amro | that's a little uncertain |
| 19:24.43 | TC-Work | cog|work: thats, what.....90? |
| 19:24.46 | amro | give me your watch, I'll tell you exactly when you're going to die. |
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| 19:24.50 | TC-Work | i mean 80 |
| 19:25.02 | cog|work | 83-ish |
| 19:25.09 | TC-Work | i was close |
| 19:25.36 | amro | if you said 85, I would have ended you right now |
| 19:27.06 | amro | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kks6LZu8k_U this is still awesome |
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| 19:33.56 | TC-Work | amro: why? is that how old you are? |
| 19:34.24 | amro | no, it's the level cap in a certain upcoming expansion to a certain mmo |
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| 19:38.55 | Shirik | in all seriousness how hard is it to make rice |
| 19:38.59 | Shirik | my school always screws it up |
| 19:39.04 | Shirik | and that's something even I can make |
| 19:39.16 | cog|work | step 1 put measured amount of water into rice cooker |
| 19:39.23 | TC-Work | "Bubbaâs After the Storm âBucket of Boat Trashâ" that's an amazing name for food |
| 19:39.23 | cog|work | step 2 put measured amount of rice into rice cooker |
| 19:39.29 | cog|work | step 3 press button |
| 19:39.59 | amro | cog|work: measuring is a complicated science |
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| 19:45.53 | Flowy | ~pil |
| 19:45.54 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
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| 19:48.55 | Adys | Shadowed: ping |
| 19:48.59 | Shadowed | Adys pong |
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| 19:56.36 | Lunessa | Shirik: If you don't have a rice cooker, the most important thing to remember about cooking your rice is "leave the fucking lid on, you twit." |
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| 20:00.10 | jnwhiteh | Tilda rice is awesome |
| 20:00.14 | jnwhiteh | 1 part rice, two parts water |
| 20:00.20 | jnwhiteh | cook until the water's gone =) |
| 20:00.31 | Sixen | And 1 Tilde Key. |
| 20:00.37 | Sixen | ~Rice. |
| 20:00.37 | purl | it has been said that rice is good for you |
| 20:00.40 | jnwhiteh | and don't remove the lid or stir it =) |
| 20:01.07 | cog|work | so how do you know when the water's gone? :> |
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| 20:01.22 | sylvanaar_atwork | its never gone |
| 20:01.30 | sylvanaar_atwork | the lid is on |
| 20:03.36 | Lunessa | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/5/17/ |
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| 20:12.06 | Shirik | hm |
| 20:12.18 | Shirik | I just read a paper from the Naval Research Laboratory on unmanned underwater vehicles |
| 20:12.26 | Shirik | it really looks like it was written by a freshman |
| 20:12.29 | Shirik | that's depressing |
| 20:12.45 | zenzelezz | why? |
| 20:13.08 | cbreak | there are still freshmen in this day and age :( |
| 20:13.17 | Shirik | because I would expect that the military is using our money wisely? |
| 20:14.11 | zenzelezz | just like the rest of your nation? |
| 20:14.25 | Lunessa | Shirik: Let me begin with HA. And then follow it up with BWAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 20:14.49 | Shirik | Lunessa, I thought texans were supposed to be all patriotic and everything |
| 20:14.52 | Zhinjio | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:15.06 | Zhinjio | if they can find one gem in the 1000, they believe they're doing very well |
| 20:15.14 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 20:15.18 | Lunessa | Shirik: I'm strange. I'm a patriot who uses his motherfucking brain. |
| 20:15.19 | Fisker | you are what we call a jerk |
| 20:15.34 | zenzelezz | Shirik: they're just more patriotic than the rest of you |
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| 20:17.03 | Fisker | pik pik pikkity piks Shirik |
| 20:17.38 | Fisker | this commercial sucks |
| 20:17.40 | Fisker | SUUUUUUCKS |
| 20:19.42 | DWSR | Hey all. |
| 20:20.01 | cog|work | ohai |
| 20:20.18 | Fisker | cog|work |
| 20:20.25 | DWSR | Anyone here own an hp laptop that they've bought within the last year? |
| 20:20.29 | Fisker | do you want to win 1 million? |
| 20:20.36 | Fisker | Why DWSR ? |
| 20:20.45 | cog|work | Fisker: no i want it given to me with no effort |
| 20:20.57 | Fisker | want to 1.2 million then cog|work ? |
| 20:20.57 | DWSR | I'm trying to figure out where the quickweb boots from |
| 20:21.10 | Fisker | idk :( |
| 20:21.54 | Shirik | your face sucks Fisker |
| 20:21.56 | Shirik | also, bye |
| 20:22.01 | Fisker | why so bye Shirik ? |
| 20:22.05 | Fisker | planning to kill me? |
| 20:22.11 | Shirik | maye |
| 20:22.17 | Shirik | omg where did the b go |
| 20:22.25 | Shirik | maybe I fired it through my homing missile cannon |
| 20:22.26 | Fisker | it went to /b/ |
| 20:22.26 | Shirik | at you |
| 20:22.34 | zenzelezz | you exceeded your B quota |
| 20:22.49 | Fisker | omg how did you backwards d? |
| 20:25.52 | Lunessa | http://notalwaysright.com/wet-the-appetite/7160 - so sad. |
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| 20:34.21 | Lunessa | http://textsfromlastnight.com/Text-Replies-20752.html - texter #2 is my hero. |
| 20:34.42 | Sixen | lol |
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| 20:46.56 | TC-Work | Lunessa: that is something along the lines i would have responded with |
| 20:47.44 | Lunessa | Yes, but you're not a slutty woman, so I can't praise you the same way. |
| 20:48.24 | TC-Work | wait, thats supposed to be praise? |
| 20:48.40 | TC-Work | i just thought it was amusing |
| 20:50.23 | Lunessa | It is amusing. |
| 20:50.56 | Lunessa | Mmmm... Heroic Dungeons live in beta. |
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| 20:59.21 | Lunessa | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26859188847&sid=2000 - post by an amazing douchebag of douchebagginess. |
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| 21:04.15 | foxlit | Lunessa: I'm disappointed @senjohnmccain isn't replying to @ladygaga |
| 21:04.52 | Lunessa | foxlit: I wouldn't reply to her either. Or him. And I certainly wouldn't follow either one. |
| 21:06.29 | Xinhuan | why even link that, wasted time reading it |
| 21:07.07 | Lunessa | Xinhuan: Because it angered me, and I share my righteous indignation with passion and fervor? |
| 21:07.24 | Fisker | slaps foxlit around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:07.25 | Fisker | slaps Lunessa around a bit with a large trout |
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| 21:11.48 | tcrowley | Any humans in here? |
| 21:12.53 | Cairenn | nope |
| 21:14.36 | Xyphoid | there are some reptilians in rubber human suits |
| 21:14.54 | Cairenn | we eated all of the humanz |
| 21:15.06 | tcrowley | These are some really clever bots. |
| 21:15.21 | Cairenn | I think we got food poisoning from eating them |
| 21:16.05 | tcrowley | I just PMed Cairenn but I guess I'll spam this channel too :P Is there any good discussion of the 4.0 ui changes going on? The Test realm forum is devoid of Addon knowledge and the official forums haven't updated the API sticky. |
| 21:16.23 | foxlit | beta forums |
| 21:16.25 | Cairenn | ah, that's you is it? I just opened your PM |
| 21:16.28 | Cairenn | aye, beta forums |
| 21:16.41 | foxlit | You can find a link on http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_4.0.1/API_changes , too |
| 21:16.49 | Cairenn | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?sid=2000&forumId=9043419 |
| 21:16.54 | tcrowley | Is beta code close enough on th eui front that I can make assumptions from the beta forums and test on the PTR? |
| 21:17.12 | foxlit | I'm assuming the two are the same. |
| 21:17.44 | Cairenn | guess I'll not bother responding to your pm, hmm? :) |
| 21:17.48 | tcrowley | Oh wow that last link completely eluded me I didn't know there was a whole ui and macro sub forum on the beta forums. :( |
| 21:17.50 | foxlit | PTR should only really differ in the world data, but I'm not sure whether the two are identical or not. |
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| 21:18.10 | Cairenn | heh, no worries tcrowley |
| 21:18.15 | tcrowley | lol yeah don't bother Cairenn |
| 21:18.20 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 21:18.33 | zenzelezz | we never bother Cairenn |
| 21:18.53 | tcrowley | They should just let anyone with an actively maintained addon in the beta! sounds good right? |
| 21:19.27 | foxlit | They kind of do. Cairenn will probably have a response about that :) |
| 21:19.40 | Lunessa | I thought we were all evil and she hated us? |
| 21:19.55 | foxlit | Can't all be evil |
| 21:20.19 | Cairenn | ummm, tcrowley? I take it you truly have been living under a rock, yes? http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33892 |
| 21:20.43 | tcrowley | Omg, is ther a shoots self in the head smiley? |
| 21:21.24 | tcrowley | Like I said in the PM I made my addon on a whim and all I do is respond to my own file comments. :( |
| 21:21.32 | tcrowley | Time to come out form under the rock I guess. |
| 21:22.18 | tcrowley | I've rarely felt this silly. |
| 21:22.23 | Cairenn | well, it's not a shoot yourself in the head smiley, but I think this will suffice: http://s.wowinterface.com/storage/cairennsmilies/doh.gif |
| 21:23.19 | tcrowley | indeed |
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| 21:24.33 | Lunessa | You must bring us ..... |
| 21:24.37 | Lunessa | A SHRUBBERY! |
| 21:24.45 | zenzelezz | damnit, I was about to complete that for you |
| 21:26.39 | Cairenn | you must find ... another shrubbery. Then, when you have found the shrubbery, you must place it here, beside this shrubbery, only slightly higher so you get a two layer effect with a little path running down the middle. Then you must cut down the mightiest tree in the forest ... with ... a herrigh! |
| 21:26.56 | Cairenn | herring* |
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| 21:32.19 | Lunessa | But look at the bones, man! |
| 21:32.33 | Cairenn | sharp pointy teeth! |
| 21:32.37 | p3lim | in CSS, what is the difference between .something and #something ? |
| 21:32.47 | Cairenn | right, one rabbit stew, coming up! |
| 21:32.48 | tcrowley | . is class # is id |
| 21:33.00 | tcrowley | class is more general |
| 21:33.01 | Ackis | http://consumerist.com/2010/09/scammer-flips-free-kitties-for-profit.html |
| 21:33.08 | tcrowley | id should be one instance per page |
| 21:33.12 | p3lim | tcrowley: thanks :) |
| 21:33.35 | tcrowley | You're welcome now teach me lua :P |
| 21:33.44 | p3lim | :D |
| 21:33.56 | Cairenn | Ackis: ROFL |
| 21:34.19 | p3lim | Easies way to learn lua: break down an addon |
| 21:34.24 | Ackis | https://twitter.com/trueachievement |
| 21:34.31 | Ackis | poor site is blown up :)( |
| 21:34.32 | p3lim | preferably one thats not way too complicated (GUI and stuff) |
| 21:34.46 | Ackis | Cairenn: I'm still shocked by that post |
| 21:34.54 | Cairenn | lol |
| 21:35.25 | Kraps | test |
| 21:35.26 | tcrowley | I want to start flipping kittens, like now! |
| 21:35.27 | foxlit | lua> q = setmetatable({[0]=1}, {__index=function(t,n) local r = 0; for i=1,n do for j=i,n do r = r + t[i-1]*t[j-i]*t[n-j]; end end t[n] = r; return r; end) for i=1,10 do print(q[i]); end |
| 21:35.28 | lua_bot | foxlit: luabot:1: '}' expected near ')' |
| 21:35.35 | foxlit | that clearly has to happen. |
| 21:35.44 | foxlit | lua> q = setmetatable({[0]=1}, {__index=function(t,n) local r = 0; for i=1,n do for j=i,n do r = r + t[i-1]*t[j-i]*t[n-j]; end end t[n] = r; return r; end}) for i=1,10 do print(q[i]); end |
| 21:35.44 | lua_bot | foxlit: 1, 3, 12, 55, 273, 1428, 7752, 43263, 246675, 1430715 |
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| 21:36.48 | Lunessa | foxlit: holy crap. Comment the hell out of it, 'cause in 6 months, you won't know WTF you were thinking. |
| 21:37.22 | tcrowley | Is there a good debuff duration addon that doesn't use a lot of libs and works in 4.0? |
| 21:37.45 | Ackis | Lunessa: it'll increase the WTF's/min |
| 21:37.51 | foxlit | Lunessa: meh, it's readable. |
| 21:38.07 | p3lim | tcrowley: so, whats the big difference between class and id in the html div tag? |
| 21:38.26 | tcrowley | they each point to seperate css definitions. |
| 21:38.31 | tcrowley | so kind of everything. |
| 21:38.50 | foxlit | p3lim: id is a name, class is a template |
| 21:39.00 | Arrowmaster | id is unique |
| 21:39.01 | foxlit | there we go, mapped that to CreateFrame syntax :P |
| 21:39.04 | tcrowley | What is the bug difference between blue and japanese in this sentence? The blue japanese car went fast. |
| 21:39.08 | Flowy | can I create FontString throught AceGUI? |
| 21:39.17 | Kraps | you guys saw http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/26850248319/guild-chat-coming-soon-to-mobile-armory/ |
| 21:39.39 | tcrowley | oh god AT&T is going to kill blizzard. |
| 21:39.58 | p3lim | lol |
| 21:40.06 | foxlit | Kraps: for the low price of $99.99, I can now sell you internet access in wow? |
| 21:40.37 | foxlit | Want to update your DKP page without opening your browser? Chat relay can do that for you. |
| 21:40.41 | Ackis | http://kotaku.com/5644263/unboxing-the-fancy-edition-of-civilization-v |
| 21:40.56 | p3lim | ive been using both class and id a bit randomly, just using whatever the previous owner of this theme used |
| 21:41.02 | p3lim | (old teardown) |
| 21:41.35 | Kraps | haters gonna hate |
| 21:41.52 | tcrowley | Thats a bummer |
| 21:42.00 | foxlit | What's this I hear about the civ5 disks having no civ5 on them? |
| 21:42.10 | tcrowley | The power of css is the C (cascading) designer way of saying inheritance. |
| 21:43.17 | tcrowley | Class is a style that can comfortable supply cascading styles to many elements. id should be used to except or modify certain elements that inherit class' styling. |
| 21:43.47 | tcrowley | but when you are stomping on someon elses possibly crappy CSS your options get limited. |
| 21:45.31 | TC-Work | "Cannon Fodder - It'll take you a few hours to get your head around the new map system, and how to move your troops successfully during combat. The AI? It's been playing for months, and still hasn't got the hang of it." lol |
| 21:45.46 | Flowy | how to create FontString with AceGUI? |
| 21:46.12 | p3lim | ok, yet another question |
| 21:46.13 | Ackis | wow |
| 21:46.17 | Ackis | I just did this: google sensorship map |
| 21:46.20 | Ackis | I fail |
| 21:46.38 | p3lim | if i do this: img { max-width: 400px; } |
| 21:47.01 | p3lim | how can I prevent the image from beeing messed up since the height stays the same |
| 21:47.32 | tcrowley | first don't use core definitions. |
| 21:47.34 | p3lim | rather forcing it to keep the aspect ratio |
| 21:47.45 | tcrowley | give the images you want to treat that way a class instead |
| 21:48.01 | p3lim | it quite random |
| 21:48.29 | tcrowley | The only way to "force" aspect ration is to describe a height for the image that is the correct aspect ratio. |
| 21:48.39 | Ackis | http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/governmentrequests/ |
| 21:48.57 | tcrowley | so if it is 2x4 then your max-height would be 200px |
| 21:49.16 | p3lim | but it can be any kind of image |
| 21:49.22 | tcrowley | but what you actually want is aspect ratios that work all the itme and top out at 400px. |
| 21:49.23 | p3lim | its a theme for tumblr |
| 21:50.11 | foxlit | If nobody specifies a height, UA will keep aspect ratio |
| 21:50.18 | foxlit | If someone specifies a height, you're already screwed. |
| 21:50.31 | tcrowley | Javascript is the only way to do that if each image is going to be different and you don't know the sizes ahead of time. |
| 21:50.34 | p3lim | nothing should specify a height of the image |
| 21:50.49 | tcrowley | Nothing should really specify a width either. |
| 21:51.00 | p3lim | i have a box to keep it within |
| 21:51.09 | p3lim | but the height is generic (of the box) |
| 21:51.11 | tcrowley | If you want the UA to take care of it put them in a box element that is always 400px wide. |
| 21:51.20 | tcrowley | then don't put any dimensions on th eimage. |
| 21:51.28 | foxlit | That won't work. |
| 21:51.30 | p3lim | I already tried that |
| 21:52.38 | foxlit | p3lim: link the page? |
| 21:52.46 | Kraps | "As long as I don't have to lie, cheat, steal or commit fornication with other players, then WoW is best seen as one big storybook/puzzle." |
| 21:52.51 | Kraps | lol |
| 21:53.07 | p3lim | sec |
| 21:54.07 | foxlit | p3lim: try height:auto |
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| 21:54.39 | p3lim | thanks, that did it |
| 21:54.51 | tcrowley | I'm looking at tumblr themes and just max-width should work unless a height is being inheritted form somewhere. |
| 21:55.14 | p3lim | might be inherited from the box its within |
| 21:55.29 | p3lim | though foxlit's suggestion fixed it |
| 21:55.30 | tcrowley | If you don't already have it download Firebug. |
| 21:55.40 | tcrowley | It will help you not go insane. |
| 21:55.55 | foxlit | sc2 patch :/ |
| 21:55.59 | tcrowley | http://getfirebug.com/ |
| 21:57.13 | p3lim | yeah I have it |
| 21:58.07 | p3lim | yay food is here |
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| 22:10.20 | Shirik | where's my git experts |
| 22:10.25 | Shirik | I've gone and made a mess |
| 22:12.49 | SqueeG | lol |
| 22:12.51 | Kraps | justin bieber, meet your (better) nemesis http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxDlC7YV5is&feature=related |
| 22:13.56 | Shirik | I have a repository: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/3e532723bd387e887a0b2c3f2b289fa0.png |
| 22:14.12 | Shirik | A codeveloper has a repository: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/5564afaefa4f9d4b446e32cfd6f29fd7.png |
| 22:15.06 | Shirik | That latest commit on his repository that is a merge is broken and needs to be reverted. However, my understanding is that reverting it will cause one of the branches to disappear. As you can see on my copy, I've already merged in the left side (red), but that's the side that needs to go away. |
| 22:15.38 | Shirik | is it ok to do a git revert and I will still be able to merge to my copy? |
| 22:15.42 | Flowy | where I can find names of fonts?? |
| 22:15.55 | Flowy | *can I |
| 22:16.27 | Shirik | it's in the MPQ files |
| 22:16.57 | Shirik | I'm not sure which one |
| 22:17.30 | Flowy | is there table of this on wowwiki? |
| 22:18.31 | SqueeG | http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/howto/revert-a-faulty-merge.txt |
| 22:20.38 | SqueeG | shiriki |
| 22:20.40 | SqueeG | dkjadsnadasd;salfksd |
| 22:20.53 | SqueeG | shirik* that link explains reverting a faulty merge |
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| 22:24.26 | Dashkal | Shirik: you can create the branch marker again, then revert. |
| 22:25.58 | Shirik | well it's only one file |
| 22:26.01 | Dashkal | There is an issue with that that you need to be aware of relating to merging again down the road. Lemme see if I can find it. |
| 22:26.16 | Shirik | I thought I could do `git checkout abcdef12 file.sln` |
| 22:26.32 | Shirik | but it's saying that file doesn't exist (which, yes, it was deleted accidentally) |
| 22:27.01 | Dashkal | just checkout the hash you're interested. Git works in revisions, not files. |
| 22:27.08 | Dashkal | interested in* |
| 22:27.32 | Pneumatus | SqueeG: that melted my brain :< |
| 22:27.36 | TC-Work | having typing troubles SqueeG? |
| 22:28.00 | SqueeG | typo made squeeg MAD :p |
| 22:28.00 | Dashkal | Shirik: This page should help: http://progit.org/2010/03/02/undoing-merges.html |
| 22:28.08 | Dashkal | Shirik: It covers the issue I mentioned |
| 22:29.47 | TC-Work | the hulk of keyboards |
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| 22:31.51 | Lunessa | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9187079/Droid_X_update_to_Froyo_is_now_ready |
| 22:31.51 | Shirik | Dashkal: I don't want that revision, I just want the copy of the file as it was in that revision |
| 22:33.08 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: git checkout should do it then |
| 22:33.18 | Shirik | yeah for some reason it's saying it can't find the file |
| 22:33.23 | Shirik | but I think I Found another solution |
| 22:33.51 | Shirik | this merge has actually already been done on another repo |
| 22:33.58 | Shirik | so if I merge in that repo, it should cause a conflict, right? |
| 22:34.05 | Shirik | then I can fix it in that merge |
| 22:34.55 | TC-Work | ty Lunessa |
| 22:34.59 | TC-Work | gets busy |
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| 22:40.26 | Amarande | G'evening :) |
| 22:40.27 | TC-Work | except mine wont update :( |
| 22:40.27 | Amarande | tell me it's not patch day. tell me it's not patch day. oh god tell me it's not patch day. |
| 22:40.28 | Amarande | ooooookay, apparently it's not patch day, so wtf was that stuff that just auto downloaded? |
| 22:40.31 | SqueeG | not the patch? >.> |
| 22:40.41 | Xinhuan | it is patch day |
| 22:40.45 | Xinhuan | sc2 patch day :D |
| 22:40.51 | Xinhuan | and they broke offline and campaign play |
| 22:41.01 | Xinhuan | and the build order tabs at the score screen is all wrong |
| 22:41.05 | Amarande | btw ... anyone know if the hyacinth macaw still drops in Cata? |
| 22:41.06 | Xinhuan | and loads of problems |
| 22:41.17 | Amarande | or does it fall off the pirates' loot table then (or are the pirates even still around, for that matter)? |
| 22:41.17 | Xinhuan | Amarande, i doubt anyone has enough luck to find out |
| 22:41.26 | Amarande | are there still pirates at the south end of STV? |
| 22:41.38 | Amarande | (and what happened to BB, anyway ... did it get taken over by pirates?) |
| 22:41.44 | Xinhuan | nah still around |
| 22:41.48 | Xinhuan | BB is still BB |
| 22:42.03 | Amarande | ahh. there used to be talk they were nuking BB |
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| 22:45.18 | Lunessa | TC-Work: I'm often frustrated by Android 2.1 phones here, because getting them to reliably connect to our PEAP secured WiFi is a pain in my tookus. I'm hoping 2.2 will make life easier. |
| 22:47.15 | TC-Work | isnt that ch and not k Lunessa? |
| 22:47.32 | TC-Work | on the other hand, i havent had any issues with my droid x connecting to anything |
| 22:48.24 | Lunessa | PEAP is domain\userid and password strings so you don't have to hand out your network key to everyone |
| 22:49.33 | TC-Work | i prefer a secondary AP for that |
| 22:52.10 | Dashkal | Shirik: Sorry for the delay. If git checkout hash -- file is failing, try the hash previous to the one you tried (as in, before the file got deleted) |
| 22:52.27 | Shirik | yeah I got it a different way |
| 22:52.36 | Shirik | I forced a merge conflict of another branch with a file we knew is correct |
| 22:52.40 | Shirik | and then we corrected it there |
| 22:55.38 | Flowy | how to comment in xml? |
| 22:55.57 | Arrowmaster | <!-- --> |
| 22:56.05 | Flowy | thanks |
| 23:18.00 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/1163036581 |
| 23:19.54 | Amarande | heh, things to laugh at: a VoA being "full" on a particular DPS class |
| 23:20.00 | Amarande | like DPS class balance actually matters one whit in VoA :) |
| 23:20.04 | Adys | http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/MKuf/~3/w8Oh6pwyGF8/taking-rogue-pharmacies-to-court.html |
| 23:20.27 | Amarande | I think last week when I led a VoA 10 I took like three or four mages |
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| 23:20.46 | Amarande | (and of course warlock loot dropped, go figure) |
| 23:21.25 | Arrowmaster | Amarande: full just means the raid leader or his buddies dont want more competition for loot |
| 23:21.55 | Amarande | there's also apparently a huge glut of rets lately. heh |
| 23:25.15 | Flowy | where in PIL is anything about calling methods with : or . |
| 23:25.16 | Flowy | ? |
| 23:25.39 | Xinhuan | its somewhere |
| 23:25.39 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 23:25.55 | Xinhuan | just google "pil syntactic sugar function" |
| 23:25.57 | Xinhuan | and it should turn up |
| 23:26.36 | Adys | Flowy: what do you need to know about it? |
| 23:26.48 | Flowy | at first |
| 23:27.08 | Flowy | have created function Addon:function(arg) |
| 23:27.24 | Flowy | and cant call it with addon.function(arg) |
| 23:27.53 | Flowy | (maybe I can call it but it dont pass arg) |
| 23:27.57 | Adys | because addon:function(arg) ... end is the same as addon.function(self, arg) ... end |
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| 23:28.08 | Adys | if you want it to pass the arg, call it with addon:function(arg) |
| 23:28.14 | Adys | or addon.function(addon, arg) |
| 23:28.33 | Flowy | ok thanks ... and now |
| 23:28.45 | Flowy | why addon_function() must be global? |
| 23:29.05 | Adys | Oo? |
| 23:29.08 | Flowy | I rename it to this and it returns error because I made local and it needs global |
| 23:29.10 | Adys | nothing needs to be global |
| 23:29.21 | Adys | what are you trying to do? paste some code |
| 23:29.34 | Flowy | local function MLoot_GetColorName(name) |
| 23:29.36 | Flowy | is function |
| 23:29.52 | Flowy | when I call it with this "MLoot_GetColorName(MLootTab.raid[i].name);" it returns error |
| 23:30.11 | Adys | Flowy: pastethat.com and link |
| 23:30.21 | Xinhuan | it just means you declared the local function |
| 23:30.28 | Xinhuan | later than when you tried to use it |
| 23:30.33 | Xinhuan | use forward declarations |
| 23:31.03 | Xinhuan | at the point it tried to call the function, it didn't exist yet |
| 23:31.13 | Flowy | http://www.pastethat.com/roezu |
| 23:31.25 | Xinhuan | or wasn't in scope |
| 23:31.45 | Flowy | its not called on start |
| 23:32.22 | Xinhuan | your paste doesn't tell me anything |
| 23:32.27 | Xinhuan | the placement of your function matters |
| 23:32.52 | Xinhuan | if you declared the local function below where you tried to call it |
| 23:33.00 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5643621/michael-jackson-the-online-game |
| 23:33.00 | Xinhuan | you'll just get a nil error |
| 23:33.08 | Flowy | it's in slash function ... when someone type it |
| 23:33.31 | Xinhuan | because only all the code BELOW the "local function MLoot_GetColorName()" can see it |
| 23:33.39 | cralor | The latest in Beta email spam: "World of Warcraft: The Emerald Nightmare! This exciting |
| 23:33.40 | cralor | expansion will offer many new features including two new races: Ice Trolls and Variants, Under Water Cities, New |
| 23:33.40 | cralor | Professions, and even a new Realm type!" |
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| 23:33.47 | Xinhuan | are you getting what i'm saying? |
| 23:33.57 | Flowy | yes |
| 23:34.05 | Xinhuan | if your line "local function MLoot_GetColorName()" is say line 89, only lines 90-end of file can use it |
| 23:34.07 | Flowy | but ... its funny :D ok thanks |
| 23:34.38 | Xinhuan | if it isn't local, the function would be stored in _G["MLoot_GetColorName"] = function()... end |
| 23:34.48 | Xinhuan | and since its a global, any code later can call and access it |
| 23:35.07 | Arrowmaster | and replace it |
| 23:35.21 | Flowy | but why it cant be done with local? |
| 23:35.21 | Xinhuan | _G._G == _G["_G"] == _G |
| 23:35.27 | Xinhuan | i just explained it? |
| 23:35.35 | Xinhuan | do you code in other programming languages? |
| 23:35.41 | Xinhuan | same thing applies |
| 23:36.10 | Xinhuan | you defined a local variable at line 89 (say its 89), only lines 90 onwards recognizes the variable |
| 23:36.50 | Flowy | ok then |
| 23:36.56 | Flowy | local define at first |
| 23:37.19 | Flowy | can I make local function Addon if Addon is global table? |
| 23:37.36 | Flowy | local function Addon:function() I mean |
| 23:37.39 | Xinhuan | yes the local scope version will hide the global scope |
| 23:37.44 | Xinhuan | no |
| 23:37.46 | Xinhuan | that doesn't make sense |
| 23:38.08 | Xinhuan | Addon:function() is essentially the same as Addon.function = SOME FUNCTION YOU DEFINE HERE |
| 23:38.17 | Xinhuan | which is the same as Addon["function"] |
| 23:38.36 | Xinhuan | i.e its just a key of the table Addon |
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| 23:38.47 | Xinhuan | the string is the key, the function is the value |
| 23:39.08 | Flowy | can I make local table for Ace? |
| 23:39.13 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 23:39.29 | Flowy | huh x) ok then I go to rewrite all to local :D |
| 23:39.40 | Flowy | is it faster or same as global? |
| 23:39.48 | Xinhuan | local access is always faster |
| 23:39.58 | Xinhuan | because global access is essentially a table lookup |
| 23:40.08 | Xinhuan | _G is the global table where all globals are stored |
| 23:40.29 | Flowy | local MLoot = LibStub("AceAddon-3.0"):NewAddon("MLoot", "AceEvent-3.0") |
| 23:40.32 | Flowy | if I make this |
| 23:40.35 | Xinhuan | that's fine |
| 23:40.47 | Flowy | would it find local function MLoot:OnEnable()? |
| 23:40.54 | Xinhuan | the "Mloot" will only be recognizable/usable for the remainder of the file |
| 23:40.57 | Xinhuan | after that line |
| 23:41.11 | Xinhuan | you don't need to "local function MLoot:OnEnable()" |
| 23:41.17 | Xinhuan | the word local will cause an error |
| 23:41.51 | Flowy | its defined at first line and it will remain local? |
| 23:42.01 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 23:42.02 | kd3 | yes |
| 23:43.38 | Xinhuan | the entirety of MLoot will be local basically |
| 23:44.18 | cralor | Thought there might be some interest here... GoDaddy.com offer: "1 year domain name registrations for $0.99 (plus additional 18-cent ICANN fee) after Coupon Code: FALL99" |
| 23:44.22 | Xinhuan | MLoot essentially a local variable that is a memory pointer to the table |
| 23:44.24 | Flowy | and ... can I create fontstring with AceGUI? |
| 23:44.32 | Xinhuan | not directly |
| 23:44.44 | Flowy | what it means? |
| 23:44.53 | Xinhuan | AceGui creates more "high level" stuff |
| 23:45.03 | Xinhuan | for example, a dropdownlist, a button, etc |
| 23:45.08 | Xinhuan | which may contain fontstrings |
| 23:45.43 | Flowy | where to find global templates for button ie? |
| 23:46.03 | Xinhuan | the blizzard ones are mostly defined in XML in the default UI code |
| 23:46.34 | Xinhuan | acegui simply constructs it directly by creating a frame, a background texture, foreground texture, applying the border texture, then creating a fontstring in the center, etc |
| 23:46.40 | Flowy | I look for this ... but on wowcompares is just release 11k |
| 23:47.08 | Xinhuan | if its your first time writing an addon, i'll suggest you avoid writing something that requires any form of UI for a start |
| 23:47.22 | Xinhuan | or look at your favourite addon's code and see how they do it |
| 23:47.49 | Flowy | I have created UI for this addon |
| 23:47.57 | Flowy | but its frame with 25+2 lines |
| 23:48.42 | *** part/#wowuidev A-KO (as@unaffiliated/a-ko) |
| 23:48.43 | Flowy | and want to add slider and use acegui for lower garbage |
| 23:49.07 | Arrowmaster | if you want to use acegui then you have to use acegui for everything |
| 23:49.55 | PProvost | Flowy: the button templates are here: http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source/blob/master/FrameXML/UIPanelTemplates.xml |
| 23:50.08 | PProvost | Many of the built-in ones, I mean |
| 23:50.15 | Flowy | ok but ... later I will need button that looks like text - for clicking on name and showing item |
| 23:53.25 | Xinhuan | easiest is really to find something that looks like what you want, and "copy" the code |
| 23:56.22 | Flowy | when I create something throught AceGUI |
| 23:56.41 | Flowy | there is not many function ... can I control it with default ones? |
| 23:59.15 | Xinhuan | no |
| 23:59.29 | Xinhuan | acegui creates a frame with some contents that it manages the layout of completely, you can't touch it |
