| 00:00.01 | Dagmar | And remember, foxlit is an utter bastard because he's trampling on the intellectual property rights of some patent trol...er poor inventor who got a patent on radially-oriented menus all the way back in 1999 |
| 00:00.09 | Dagmar | Oh and 20101 |
| 00:00.09 | Dagmar | er 2010 |
| 00:03.28 | Cidan | lol |
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| 00:05.33 | foxlit | http://www.gmodfiles.com/content/screenshots/3196_1.jpg << I'd trample on that slice design if I could, but, alas. |
| 00:06.41 | foxlit | http://www.shatteredminds.net/skit/crysis-suitmenu.jpg << |
| 00:07.05 | foxlit | also, dual pistols. I approve. |
| 00:11.07 | Dagmar | Yeah the patent it bullshit |
| 00:11.25 | Dagmar | Arranging shit radially fails the non-obviousness test compared to a vertical drop-down |
| 00:11.45 | Dagmar | ...and it had definitely been done prior to 1999 but that's old Commodore 64 software no one gives a shit about |
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| 00:17.52 | cogwheel | really needs to stop alt-tabbing out of SC2 while fraps is recording |
| 00:18.04 | foxlit | Disable the shortcut? |
| 00:18.30 | cogwheel | i alt-tab on purpose |
| 00:18.37 | cogwheel | i forget to stop recording not on purpose |
| 00:19.05 | cogwheel | i should make tab the recording hotkey >< |
| 00:22.11 | Cidan | cogwheel: I saw your real id status, :( |
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| 00:27.37 | Cidan | foxlit: request: able to rename rings, :( |
| 00:28.05 | foxlit | Cidan: You can change the title, at least. |
| 00:29.03 | foxlit | It's a non-obvious editbox -- though it should hint at its existence if you hover over it. |
| 00:29.30 | DWSR | cogwheel: 2s? |
| 00:30.14 | foxlit | Cidan: found it? |
| 00:31.10 | Cidan | foxlit: Indeed, :D |
| 00:33.13 | cogwheel | DWSR: i'd be up for a couple... i'm in a braindead cycle trying to record this next cast... |
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| 00:39.24 | DWSR | what's it about? |
| 00:39.32 | Legorol | cogwheel: wtb moar failzor |
| 00:40.38 | cogwheel | Legorol: ya me too but now i'm failzor at talking >< i'm on take 9 or something |
| 00:40.51 | Legorol | lol, does it matter? |
| 00:43.58 | Adys | http://i.imgur.com/iDQKL.jpg |
| 00:44.01 | Adys | holy shit^ |
| 00:44.45 | Dagmar | ROFL |
| 00:44.46 | Trela | XD |
| 00:44.47 | Trela | NICE! |
| 00:45.09 | tem | we;; |
| 00:45.14 | tem | well this is a problem |
| 00:45.39 | tem | I hardlock when I zone into stonecore |
| 00:47.15 | SqueeG | hm |
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| 00:49.38 | tem | oh boy |
| 00:49.41 | tem | now I don't lock |
| 00:49.44 | tem | but error 132 |
| 00:50.48 | Ackis | l,k.....................................................................reddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff |
| 00:51.15 | tem | another hard lock |
| 00:51.31 | tem | D: D: D: D: D: D: D: |
| 00:51.39 | Cidan | :( |
| 00:51.47 | tem | I just wanted to heal a dungeon |
| 00:52.00 | Cidan | No heals 4 u |
| 00:56.02 | Adys | ~ping |
| 00:56.02 | purl | ~pong |
| 00:59.54 | DWSR | ~pong |
| 00:59.54 | purl | ~ping |
| 01:04.21 | Adys | jnwhiteh: i didn't know you were into Go |
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| 01:15.43 | DWSR | cogwheel...? |
| 01:15.53 | cogwheel | had to feed the kitteh |
| 01:16.18 | DWSR | It's Caturday? |
| 01:16.26 | cogwheel | indeed :) |
| 01:16.42 | DWSR | We've been fucking rolling these teams. |
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| 01:17.39 | cogwheel | i'm up for one more if you want |
| 01:18.35 | DWSR | Want to try something a bit different? |
| 01:18.39 | DWSR | We can play some infested arena. |
| 01:18.48 | Adys | cogwheel: get worms reloaded instead |
| 01:18.50 | cogwheel | sure...? |
| 01:18.56 | Adys | cide, amro and i need a 4th |
| 01:19.01 | Adys | gnight |
| 01:27.37 | Cidan | What is decent bonus healing for a Paladin these days? |
| 01:27.40 | cogwheel | that was fun for the few minutes it lasted >< |
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| 01:59.46 | Dagmar | Deepholm + Gnomes == Rock City. |
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| 02:07.55 | Dagmar | Am I seeing this correctly on this video? |
| 02:08.28 | Dagmar | AFTER FIVE DAMN YEARS are we FINALLY going to be able to use that Gnomish airstrip in Dun Morough? |
| 02:09.09 | Kraps | "Keyboard error or keyboard not present. Press F1 to continue or F2 to enter setup" |
| 02:10.16 | Kraps | lemme get my paradoxopedia |
| 02:10.30 | Dagmar | Not a paradox |
| 02:11.02 | Kraps | catch-22? |
| 02:11.28 | Dagmar | Is that what you call it when someone's not bright enough to read the words? |
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| 02:11.59 | sylvanaar | Kraps: thats the death of a headless machine right there |
| 02:12.18 | Dagmar | No variation of that BIOS message has ever said "AND YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO PLUG ONE IN NOW, NOOB" |
| 02:12.46 | Kraps | Dagmar: I KNOW THAT, I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS FUNNY |
| 02:12.54 | Dagmar | ...although it was generally implied that one might want to take ones gut off the ctrl key. |
| 02:13.28 | Cidan | Kraps: Catch-22 is damned if you do, damned if you don't, not a paradox |
| 02:13.44 | Kraps | thats why i said paradox earlier |
| 02:13.53 | Cidan | Indeed, and it is a paradox |
| 02:14.09 | Cidan | Because you need a keyboard to press F1, yet the message appears because of lack of keyboard |
| 02:14.24 | Dagmar | No the message appears because of an error initializing the keyboard. |
| 02:14.55 | Kraps | man, nerds are no fun :( |
| 02:14.56 | Dagmar | No keyboard being present _could_ be the cause, but a malfunctioning keyboard could also be the cause. |
| 02:15.00 | Cidan | Still a paradox, Keyboard not functional, yet need to press F1 to continue. |
| 02:15.08 | Kraps | :p |
| 02:15.11 | Dagmar | Not a paradox. |
| 02:15.15 | Cidan | Message still appears because of keyboard not working. |
| 02:15.26 | Dagmar | Get something heavy, put it on the middle of your keyboard, and power it up. |
| 02:15.36 | Dagmar | Most machines will give you that message. |
| 02:15.47 | Cidan | Yes, thus the message is... you know what? Forget it. |
| 02:15.50 | Cidan | Not worth it. |
| 02:16.25 | Dagmar | Am I really the only person who understands the meaning of the word 'OR'? |
| 02:16.38 | DWSR | acronym, perhaps? |
| 02:18.29 | Dagmar | The only thing that BIOS message means is that the PC tried to set the repeat and delay params on the keyboard, and wasn't able to. It's just listing the possible reasons why things didn't go as expected. |
| 02:18.49 | Dagmar | It *could* of course just say "POST ERROR 1XX" and stop, but fuck a whole bunch of that. |
| 02:19.24 | Dagmar | ...or my personal favorite, two short beeps, one long beep, one short beep. |
| 02:19.52 | Kraps | anyone have a max level priest on beta? |
| 02:20.13 | Dagmar | Shit like that is why techs find that "joke" about as funny as watching someone shove an entire load of bread into their mouths. |
| 02:20.54 | Kraps | shakes his head at Dagmar |
| 02:21.18 | Ressy | I like my mb better - gives me a nice error code on the display screen which tells me exactly whats wrong with the mb. |
| 02:21.41 | Dagmar | I wish Soyo were still making boards. |
| 02:21.44 | Ressy | told me my board was DOA when I turned it on the first time. :) |
| 02:21.53 | Dagmar | Ressy: AWESOME |
| 02:22.37 | Dagmar | Soyo had put speech synthesizer chips on the boards, so instead of a gnomic series of beeps or an attempt to display a message on a video card that might not be there, it could simply _say_ the boot up stuff. |
| 02:23.05 | Dagmar | For some reason my PC always seemed a shitload cooler when it was murmuring to itself in Mandarin while booting. |
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| 02:26.12 | tem | The last boss of stonecore is kicking our ass |
| 02:26.29 | tem | we suspect it's bugged because ~12 adds are spawning all at once |
| 02:26.51 | Kraps | sylvanaar: have you updated prat in the last 2 days? |
| 02:26.59 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 02:27.13 | Kraps | k |
| 02:28.19 | Kraps | so the Duke is back eh? |
| 02:29.34 | Cidan | Always bet on Duke. |
| 02:29.41 | sylvanaar | Kraps: why? |
| 02:30.44 | Kraps | sylvanaar: got an email from wowi but you didnt write anything in the changelog there :) |
| 02:31.14 | sylvanaar | oh, its the cata+live version |
| 02:36.19 | Kraps | DMF actually made it to pre-orders in 2001? |
| 02:36.28 | Kraps | DNF* |
| 02:43.50 | Dagmar | I think PAX is trolling us |
| 02:46.22 | Arrowmaster | ? |
| 02:47.26 | Dagmar | Having Gearbox pretend they've actually got a Duke Nuke'Em game working |
| 02:47.35 | Dagmar | Obvious troll is obvious. |
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| 02:51.15 | Jamash | HEY ACKIS |
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| 03:16.28 | cogwheel | stupid youtube... |
| 03:16.46 | cogwheel | if you upload a movie with 1080 lines it'll do some funky shitty looking scaling, resulting in 1080 lines. |
| 03:16.57 | cogwheel | if you upload a movie with 1079 lines, it'll look crystal clear (minus a line) |
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| 03:40.52 | Kraps | http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/naked-uk-car-owner-thwarts-stunned-thief/story-e6frfku0-1225914278134 |
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| 03:52.46 | Arrowmaster | cogwheel: what happens if you upload a movie with 1088 lines? |
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| 04:00.57 | amro | Arrowmaster: I have several hundred variations of that question |
| 04:19.30 | Kraps | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/extra-credits/1961-Free-Speech |
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| 04:27.44 | Dagmar | prolly the most intellectual vlog on that site |
| 04:27.54 | Dagmar | not as much fun as I Hit It With My Axe, tho'. |
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| 04:38.13 | tem | BLARG |
| 04:38.19 | tem | Throne of the Tides is unplayable |
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| 04:52.16 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejEVczA8PLU |
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| 05:09.39 | kd3 | all of uldum that's been implemented (as of this build) is now on the wiki: www.wowwiki.com/Uldum_quests |
| 05:10.11 | airtonix | a "nice" value of -11 means it has extreme low priority on cpu cycles right ? |
| 05:10.30 | Jerub | no, negative is better |
| 05:10.36 | Jerub | i.e. higher priority. |
| 05:10.43 | kd3 | it is "less nice" to other processes |
| 05:10.47 | kd3 | it gets most of the cycles |
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| 05:42.12 | robokitty | here we go :D |
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| 06:37.42 | sylvaan | who is still using 3.2.2? |
| 06:38.34 | sylvanaar | someone was asking me for a 3.2.2 version of Prat - who would need that? |
| 06:39.11 | Torhal | sylvanaar: A private-server person, most likely. |
| 06:39.20 | Torhal | Just take them out back with a blindfold. |
| 06:39.28 | sylvanaar | ok, thats what I thought |
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| 07:11.47 | Shirik | hey Ackis |
| 07:12.04 | Shirik | I just played like 20 2-packs ._. |
| 07:12.14 | Shirik | I think I got my roommates addicted |
| 07:13.55 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 07:13.58 | Fisker | i want a new SSD already |
| 07:14.03 | Fisker | when can i pick one up? |
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| 07:19.28 | Shirik | Fisker, when you become an american |
| 07:19.52 | Zyn | just get one from Komplett or something already, Fisker |
| 07:23.02 | unfo- | Shirik, what game did you get your roommates addicted to? |
| 07:23.09 | Shirik | the wow tcg |
| 07:23.28 | unfo- | ah |
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| 07:32.31 | Jerub | http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l4abeb9FCS1qzx2p7o1_500.jpg |
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| 07:48.29 | Fisker | are you silly Zyn ? |
| 07:48.37 | Fisker | I'm waiting for intels next push |
| 07:48.41 | Fisker | so i can get a 600GB one |
| 07:49.04 | Zyn | 600Gb SSD? you shit money? |
| 07:49.24 | Fisker | why would i be? |
| 07:49.29 | Fisker | and i said GB, not Gb |
| 07:50.24 | Torhal | stabs Fisker with a Nerf knife. |
| 07:53.12 | Fisker | i need storage Torhal |
| 07:54.02 | Torhal | Fisker: Get some burlap sacks. |
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| 07:57.14 | Fisker | naw Torhal |
| 07:57.57 | Zyn | why not get like a 64Gb SSD drive for boot and some apps, and couple of terrabyte HDDs for storage |
| 07:58.18 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=14574468317&postId=145733170141&sid=1 <-lols |
| 07:58.33 | Fisker | 64Gb is only 8GB Zyn |
| 07:58.37 | Fisker | i won't warn you again |
| 07:58.46 | zenzelezz | yeah, need some terabytes for the porn |
| 07:58.50 | Fisker | and i already got an 80GB SSD |
| 07:58.57 | Fisker | but i need moar |
| 07:59.12 | Torhal | zenzelezz: I'm not sure they could convince enough emus to get in front of a camera for Fisker to fill up terabytes |
| 07:59.33 | zenzelezz | true |
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| 08:03.20 | Fisker | http://www.dvhardware.net/news/2010/intel_ssd_roadmap_aug2010_computerbase.jpg |
| 08:03.24 | Fisker | it's almost time |
| 08:04.10 | Shirik | are you silly Fisker? |
| 08:04.24 | Torhal | Shirik: He's much to silly to be silly. |
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| 08:04.41 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 08:04.42 | Torhal | s/to si/too si/ |
| 08:04.43 | Fisker | why so srs? |
| 08:04.54 | Shirik | why no srs? |
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| 08:05.16 | Fisker | tell me Shirik |
| 08:05.23 | Fisker | why don't i wanna ssd? |
| 08:05.29 | Torhal | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:05.38 | Shirik | because you wanna sse? |
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| 08:05.54 | Fisker | well you can't stop me Shirik :( |
| 08:06.00 | Torhal | Fisker, it isn't a Super Secret Dildo if you keep telling people about it. |
| 08:06.06 | Fisker | >:O |
| 08:06.23 | Fisker | you made yourself an powerful enemy today |
| 08:06.36 | Fisker | btw Shirik |
| 08:06.48 | Fisker | any reason why i'm silly? :( |
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| 08:07.21 | Torhal | Fisker: Probably because of the psilocybin. |
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| 08:27.20 | Fisker | zomg Shirik i'm backing up stuff |
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| 08:50.06 | harl | wuff |
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| 09:36.04 | Adys | kd3 |
| 09:36.05 | Adys | http://www.pastethat.com/media/files/2010/09/04/eatmyface.jpg |
| 09:36.05 | Adys | :3 |
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| 09:54.42 | Fisker | i don't get it |
| 09:56.28 | Adys | Fisker: it's the 2 million hp elite running around |
| 09:57.16 | Fisker | oh |
| 09:57.34 | Fisker | shitty drops for 2 million hp |
| 09:57.41 | Adys | 19k hp |
| 09:57.44 | Adys | er |
| 09:57.46 | Adys | 19k xp |
| 10:03.03 | Adys | "We happen by chance to live in a universe where life is possible" |
| 10:03.05 | Adys | Find the error |
| 10:06.12 | foxlit | The "by chance" thing is misplaced |
| 10:06.23 | foxlit | It should be "We happen to live, by chance, in a universe where life is possible." |
| 10:06.49 | Humbedooh | assuming that the possibility of live is even a "chance" |
| 10:07.07 | Adys | Humbedooh: Uhm |
| 10:07.19 | Humbedooh | well how is it a chance? :p |
| 10:07.30 | Adys | Assuming the impossibility of life where life impossible is ... possibly |
| 10:07.34 | Adys | possible. |
| 10:07.40 | Humbedooh | if it's a chance, then there most be a chance that it's not |
| 10:07.40 | Adys | that really fell apart at the end |
| 10:07.52 | Humbedooh | but we wouldn't know anything about that |
| 10:08.15 | Adys | Humbedooh, there's no "by chance" since the alternative would never happen |
| 10:08.22 | Adys | 100% vs 0% isn't a chance |
| 10:09.05 | Humbedooh | but only if you assume that the possibility isn't possible! |
| 10:09.09 | Adys | i don't know, i thought it was obvious. |
| 10:09.45 | Humbedooh | you could say "a solar system where life is possible" per se |
| 10:09.57 | Humbedooh | but a "universe" sort of implies more than just one |
| 10:10.44 | Adys | it's taken from some commentary about hawking's writings on multiverses |
| 10:10.58 | Humbedooh | yeah I was gonna bring up multiverses now :p |
| 10:11.03 | foxlit | "Enable gzip compression, save up to 669 bytes!" |
| 10:11.13 | Adys | "... including some where life cannot exist." |
| 10:11.16 | foxlit | Appealing, google, appealing. |
| 10:11.23 | Humbedooh | I'm guessing that's not about multiverses, foxlit :P |
| 10:11.32 | Humbedooh | unless you know a secret theory I don't ;O |
| 10:11.37 | Adys | And the commentator was like "thankfully we don't live in a universe where life is impossible" |
| 10:12.13 | Humbedooh | how could we live there :( |
| 10:12.21 | Humbedooh | you're silly, Adys! |
| 10:12.22 | Adys | that's... my point |
| 10:12.51 | Humbedooh | did Cookiemonster do interview? :\ |
| 10:13.02 | Humbedooh | s/interview/the interview/ |
| 10:13.22 | Humbedooh | pats purl. |
| 10:14.20 | Adys | frost mage in cata is so sweet |
| 10:15.32 | Humbedooh | you mean no more 2-button arcane lazyness? oh noes |
| 10:16.13 | Spejnar | Adys: how so? |
| 10:16.38 | Adys | how so what? |
| 10:16.46 | Adys | oh about frost |
| 10:16.48 | Spejnar | ye |
| 10:17.18 | Adys | they made the water elem permanent, evocation is instant+4sec, changes to fingers of frost make ice lance really fun |
| 10:17.55 | Adys | tons of minor annoyances fixed really |
| 10:18.07 | Spejnar | think itll be viable for pve? |
| 10:18.18 | Adys | dunno |
| 10:18.38 | Adys | they got it wrong for the past 2 expansions, maybe this time they'll have learned something |
| 10:18.51 | Adys | and with halved talent trees hopefully it's simpler to keep it in line |
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| 10:20.24 | Adys | cbreak: you still around? |
| 10:22.54 | cbreak | yeah |
| 10:23.05 | Adys | can you send me that timer lib? |
| 10:23.11 | Adys | im interested since the anim is bugged |
| 10:23.21 | cbreak | it's really barely a lib. sec |
| 10:23.31 | Adys | yeah exactly what i need |
| 10:25.14 | cbreak | http://paste.the-color-black.net/38696 and http://paste.the-color-black.net/38697 |
| 10:25.27 | cbreak | seems the last time I touched it was two years ago |
| 10:25.37 | Adys | cool |
| 10:25.38 | Adys | thanks |
| 10:26.07 | cbreak | it could be done so much more elegant |
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| 10:44.56 | foxlit | cbreak: Yowch = function(syntax) |
| 10:45.16 | cbreak | I like it... |
| 10:45.29 | cbreak | it's more direct. |
| 10:46.23 | foxlit | also longer and probably breaks my editor's symbol detection |
| 10:46.42 | cbreak | longer? just a few glyphs |
| 10:46.57 | cbreak | symbol detection? |
| 10:47.14 | cbreak | you try to detect the type of the contents of variables? |
| 10:47.35 | foxlit | It tries to detect function declarations |
| 10:49.08 | cbreak | that should work for this syntax too |
| 10:49.33 | foxlit | There's a world of difference between "should" and "does" :) |
| 10:49.48 | foxlit | Also, foo, bar = true, function() end |
| 10:50.00 | cbreak | at least in this code, I don't do crazy things like DispatchTable = { ["ENTERING_WORLD"] = function (...) |
| 10:50.24 | foxlit | the power way to write that is local DispatchTable = {}; function DispatchTable:ENTERING_WORLD(...) end |
| 10:50.33 | cbreak | no |
| 10:50.35 | foxlit | Which, again, would get picked up :) |
| 10:50.54 | cbreak | the event will not pass the correct thing as self I think |
| 10:51.04 | foxlit | The event will pass what you tell it to pass. |
| 10:51.13 | foxlit | Not like DispatchTable will magically call itself. |
| 10:51.28 | cbreak | true. I wrote that code too... |
| 10:51.48 | cbreak | anyway, I like my way more ;) |
| 10:53.03 | Fisker | heh |
| 10:53.27 | Fisker | someone is working on porting the PSFreedom code to android |
| 10:53.33 | Fisker | they apparently already did it with maemo |
| 10:54.42 | cbreak | PSFreedom? |
| 10:54.49 | cbreak | that's not PostScript, right? |
| 10:55.05 | Fisker | naw |
| 10:55.07 | Fisker | playstation 3 |
| 10:55.17 | cbreak | a playstation emulator? |
| 10:55.21 | Fisker | nope |
| 10:55.27 | cbreak | :( |
| 10:55.33 | Fisker | allowing the PS3 to run in debug mode so you can backup games and run unsigned code |
| 10:55.52 | cbreak | sounds useful for certain people... :) |
| 10:55.53 | Fisker | but sofar only someone made like a $200-300 usb dongle |
| 10:56.13 | Humbedooh | waaaaait |
| 10:56.13 | Fisker | Then someone found out you could easily do it yourself with an USB microcontroller board |
| 10:56.16 | Humbedooh | what is this!?? |
| 10:56.18 | Fisker | which is like worth shit |
| 10:56.21 | Humbedooh | Fisker talking sense? :o |
| 10:56.33 | Humbedooh | did someone hack his account? :( |
| 10:56.36 | Fisker | And now someone is working on an android version so you can just pop in your mobile :D |
| 10:56.56 | cbreak | my mobile is symbian :( |
| 10:57.02 | cbreak | (but hey, at least it was cheap...) |
| 10:57.21 | Humbedooh | tries to fix Fisker. |
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| 11:14.24 | Fisker | slaps Kalroth around a bit with a large trout |
| 11:14.59 | Jerub | ugh |
| 11:15.07 | Jerub | dps dk standing in front of fire boss in voa |
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| 11:32.20 | Kraps | waking up at 5:15, meh |
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| 11:45.19 | Fisker | hey Kraps |
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| 11:48.42 | Kraps | hey Fisker |
| 11:49.43 | Kraps | always bet on duke |
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| 11:51.29 | msoul | Greetings |
| 11:52.16 | Trela | I agree, Kraps. |
| 11:53.50 | Kraps | "The Thunder Clap portion of Heroic Leap was the subject of much derision on this very forum. If you liked it, you should have stuck up for it then. It's gone now." |
| 11:54.58 | Spejnar | :( |
| 12:00.39 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/ardrone |
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| 12:08.49 | Fisker | hey Kraps |
| 12:08.51 | Fisker | i did bet on duke |
| 12:09.35 | Kraps | given its history you can still lose the bet |
| 12:10.50 | Fisker | i really can't Kraps |
| 12:11.04 | Kraps | can too |
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| 12:52.10 | foxlit | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34801 << qq |
| 12:55.07 | msoul | he/she/it probably was high when he wrote it |
| 12:57.18 | foxlit | I hacked phpbb to just not allow people without a posting history to post things containing links to not-whitelisted websites. |
| 12:57.46 | foxlit | Seems to be the only way to get rid of those spammers once they've found you. |
| 12:59.08 | Dotted | akismet? |
| 12:59.39 | msoul | hesitated whether I should lvl enchanting/engineering |
| 12:59.52 | msoul | have to drop skinning for either one of them |
| 13:00.09 | foxlit | enchanting is better. |
| 13:00.13 | foxlit | It is at least self-sufficient. |
| 13:00.44 | msoul | true, I'm hesitated cause thinking it'd be better to max LW first then enchanting when cata hits |
| 13:01.15 | Kraps | foxlit: that person has 7 posts |
| 13:01.28 | foxlit | Kraps: and all of them would be blocked :) |
| 13:01.45 | msoul | enchanting costs |
| 13:02.00 | msoul | think it'd cost approximatly 8k |
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| 13:04.52 | Wobin | hahah http://notalwaysright.com/suffering-from-a-salt/6856 awesome |
| 13:05.21 | Sliker | msoul: i'm doing both on a 60 dk. |
| 13:06.06 | Sliker | and actually it's quite nice to have the auctioneer in dalaran for enchanting |
| 13:06.32 | msoul | I bet |
| 13:07.22 | msoul | My dk has alchemy/JC, BS/mining for now on the warrior "will go engineering when cata hits" pala lw/skinning will go enchanting |
| 13:07.36 | msoul | all the other chars are low lvl from 50+ onward |
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| 13:16.08 | Adys | ~wowiquotes |
| 13:16.08 | purl | http://www.teomyr.eu/wowuidev/irc-quotes |
| 13:16.24 | A-KO | Ip Man is a good martial arts flick :P |
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| 13:59.10 | tlund | is there a good list somewhere of the LUA changes in 4.0? im primarily looking for basic/fundamental changes. |
| 13:59.31 | Humbedooh | apart from the whole this/getglobal stuff? |
| 13:59.56 | tlund | for example i have a frame with an OnUpdate-script that tries to disable itself with :SetScript("OnUpdate", nil) after it has run once, but that doesnt seem to work :) |
| 14:00.01 | Humbedooh | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26560499864&sid=2000 |
| 14:00.24 | Humbedooh | how does it disable itself? |
| 14:01.03 | Humbedooh | by that I mean; What is the exact code you use to disable the script |
| 14:01.15 | tlund | :SetScript("OnUpdate", nil) |
| 14:01.17 | tlund | on the frame |
| 14:01.25 | Humbedooh | what's before :SetScript? |
| 14:01.28 | tlund | but that might be a problem with the globals |
| 14:01.32 | tlund | foo.frame |
| 14:02.01 | Humbedooh | well if you use "this" or getglobal() somewhere, it'll probably bug out |
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| 14:02.45 | tlund | foo = {}; foo.frame = CreateFrame("Frame", "fooFrame", UIParent); foo.frame:SetScript("OnUpdate", foo.OnUpdate); foo.frame:Show(); |
| 14:03.02 | Humbedooh | you could do something like frame:SetScript("OnUpdate", function(caller) doStuff(); caller:SetScript("OnUpdate", nil); end); |
| 14:03.24 | tlund | what is the correct way to access the old "event" global from an event handler? |
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| 14:03.46 | Humbedooh | the correct way would be to pass it on to whatever function needs it |
| 14:04.03 | tlund | well, blizzard calls my function, i guess? |
| 14:04.20 | Humbedooh | yes with (caller, event) as the first two args usually |
| 14:05.35 | Xinhuan | is there like a recommended brand to buy when buying thumbdrives? |
| 14:05.45 | tlund | Humbedooh: thanks |
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| 14:06.14 | Wobin | Xinhuan: no matter what, always buy a backup as well? |
| 14:06.35 | Xinhuan | well the point is to buy a thumbdrive that is way smaller than my 500 bg portable ;p |
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| 14:12.05 | tlund | Humbedooh: for an onUpdate-handler, the first arguemnt is some kind of table, and the second argument seems to be the time elapsed since the last call. no event :/ |
| 14:13.43 | Xinhuan | the table is essentially the frame the OnUpdate fired for |
| 14:14.09 | Xinhuan | you can think of OnUpdate as a special event that fires every frame if the frame is shown, so there's no event arg |
| 14:14.24 | tlund | yeah, its function(self, elapsed) i think |
| 14:14.49 | tlund | Xinhuan: what about an OnEvent-script? |
| 14:15.01 | Xinhuan | event args are specific to events |
| 14:15.14 | Xinhuan | function(self, eventname, arg1, arg2, ... all the way to 12 args) |
| 14:15.24 | Xinhuan | number of args are dependant on the event itself |
| 14:15.27 | Xinhuan | can be 0 to 12 |
| 14:15.31 | tlund | thanks. |
| 14:16.17 | Xinhuan | OnEvent fires whether the frame is shown or not |
| 14:16.25 | Xinhuan | but it will only fire for events it registered for |
| 14:16.34 | Humbedooh | what he said~ |
| 14:16.57 | Xinhuan | there's a special :RegisterAllEvents() only useful for debugging |
| 14:17.07 | tlund | Xinhuan: if i am in an OnUpdate function, that i only want to run every 5 seconds, do I need to access a global variable where i store the last time i ran? in 3.x i used to do in my script "local foo={}; foo.lastRun=0;" and then just access foo.lastRun from my OnUpdate-handler, but that doent seem to work any more? |
| 14:17.27 | Xinhuan | tlund, you just let the OnUpdate run all the time |
| 14:17.29 | Humbedooh | urgh |
| 14:17.37 | Xinhuan | inside, you do |
| 14:17.38 | Xinhuan | self.time = self.time + elapsed |
| 14:17.42 | Xinhuan | if self.time > 5 then |
| 14:17.46 | Xinhuan | self.time = 0 |
| 14:17.47 | Xinhuan | end |
| 14:17.55 | Xinhuan | and do teh stuff you want to do inside the IF |
| 14:17.56 | Humbedooh | you need to declare foo on a higher scope if you wanna use it, or you should use self |
| 14:18.09 | Xinhuan | make sure you initialize the frame's .time to 0 |
| 14:18.09 | tlund | Xinhuan: thank you! |
| 14:18.33 | tlund | Xinhuan: however, one small problem with that, and the way i am using it, i just realised :( |
| 14:18.46 | Xinhuan | essentially, you just store the time the table itself |
| 14:18.48 | Humbedooh | you could just use a timer library also |
| 14:18.51 | Xinhuan | essentially, you just store the time in the table itself |
| 14:18.55 | Xinhuan | you can do it differently |
| 14:18.58 | Xinhuan | such as |
| 14:19.17 | Xinhuan | if GetTime() - self.lastruntime > 5 then |
| 14:19.21 | Xinhuan | self.lastruntime = GetTime() |
| 14:19.27 | tlund | Xinhuan: what i am doing is delaying an event with 5 seconds. I want it to run 5 seconds after something else has happened. so i want to be able to "reset" the timer from outside the OnEvent-script |
| 14:19.28 | Xinhuan | get what i mean? |
| 14:19.34 | tlund | yeah |
| 14:19.42 | Xinhuan | just modify the self.time directly from yur event |
| 14:19.56 | tlund | "self" refers to the frame then i asssume? |
| 14:20.01 | Xinhuan | exactly |
| 14:20.14 | tlund | excellent, then it will work, all i have to do is change all "foo." to "self." :) |
| 14:20.31 | Xinhuan | you can just make a separate frame itself specifically for this |
| 14:20.51 | Xinhuan | in your OnEvent of the main frame, you :Show() the separate frame and set its .time to 0 |
| 14:21.11 | Xinhuan | the OnUpdate of that sperate frame will run until its 5 secs is up, then it :Hide() itself along with performing the task |
| 14:21.26 | Xinhuan | so anytime a new event occurs, it just refreshes the .time to 0 |
| 14:21.33 | Xinhuan | if that's what you want |
| 14:21.53 | tlund | hmm. yeah, that might also work |
| 14:22.17 | Humbedooh | you realize ofc, that you now owe xin 45 dollars for consulting... |
| 14:22.19 | Xinhuan | if you don't want it to re-delay 5 secs |
| 14:22.34 | Xinhuan | you can just check if that frame IsShown() |
| 14:22.38 | Xinhuan | and choose not to reset .time to 0 |
| 14:23.12 | Xinhuan | also note that within a single frame |
| 14:23.23 | Xinhuan | all the OnEvents of all frames run first, followed by all the OnUpdate |
| 14:23.44 | Xinhuan | so if you have 20 events that trigger some sort of refresh, an OnUpdate is the perfect time to do it once |
| 14:24.05 | foxlit | "Xinhuan: all the OnEvents of all frames run first, followed by all the OnUpdate" << tangential: how can you tell? |
| 14:24.07 | Xinhuan | "within a single frame" here means your fps lol |
| 14:24.35 | Xinhuan | try having lots of frames and printing stuff in their onevents and onupdates |
| 14:24.35 | Humbedooh | he's trying to make tlund's brain explode :\ |
| 14:25.10 | foxlit | Xinhuan: the difficulty, to me, is determining whether the OnEvent and OnUpdate printouts belong to the same frame or not :) |
| 14:25.16 | tlund | no no, im ok :) |
| 14:25.23 | Xinhuan | self:GetName() or tostring(self) |
| 14:25.34 | foxlit | Xinhuan: rendered frame, not frame object. |
| 14:25.38 | Humbedooh | or just print the raw table pointer |
| 14:25.40 | tlund | trying to figure out if i am doing stuff the wrong way, im gonna do a pastebin to show you |
| 14:25.47 | Xinhuan | hah |
| 14:25.48 | Humbedooh | oh |
| 14:26.17 | Xinhuan | well the wiki says to use events and onupdates to delay rendering if needed |
| 14:26.29 | Humbedooh | that would depend on how you define "rendered frame" though, fox |
| 14:26.30 | Xinhuan | so i assume the onevent/onupdate runs before the UI rendering pass for that frame |
| 14:26.37 | Humbedooh | if you include children in that definition or not |
| 14:26.54 | Humbedooh | or maybe I just misread that whole sentence |
| 14:27.04 | Humbedooh | and you mean the..fps thingy >_< |
| 14:27.48 | Xinhuan | it doesn't really matter, my point is mainly that all onevents complete then all onupdates complete |
| 14:28.29 | Humbedooh | that would definitely make most sense from a programmatical PoV yes |
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| 14:43.59 | alestane | I am so sick of "why didn't Blizzard implement this UI feature, it's obviously so much better than what they did" requests. |
| 14:44.33 | alestane | "For you, maybe." |
| 14:46.52 | foxlit | teehee, stuck on a SC2 "match starting" screen |
| 14:47.06 | foxlit | I wonder if it'll recover. |
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| 14:55.12 | haste | alestane: I'm found of: THE GAME IS UNPLAYABLE WITHOUT THIS ADD-ON! |
| 14:55.48 | tlund | MNGAH. when loggin in and in combat, InCombatLockdown() |
| 14:55.55 | tlund | will return NIL :( |
| 14:57.14 | foxlit | tlund: as it should be |
| 14:57.25 | alestane | This is supposed to give your interface a chance to finich setting up. |
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| 14:57.32 | tlund | foxlit: why? if i am already in combat when PLAYER_LOGIN fires, i would very much like to know :) |
| 14:57.47 | haste | combat ~= combat lockdown tho' |
| 14:57.47 | tlund | alestane: do you mean i am allowed to move protected frames and stuff, at login, even if i am in combat? |
| 14:58.05 | foxlit | you're not in combat until you load. |
| 14:58.24 | tlund | foxlit: when PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD fires? |
| 14:59.27 | alestane | You'll know you're considered to be in combat (and the game is treating you as such) when "PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED" fires. |
| 14:59.51 | tlund | thanks! |
| 14:59.59 | alestane | But it won't fire until the UI finishes loading, because until then you can't take any actions anyway. |
| 15:00.07 | alestane | haste: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26725723624&sid=1 |
| 15:01.48 | haste | :3 |
| 15:02.00 | tlund | ..and here i was, trying to do smart stuff, delaying moving/resizing frames until i exited combat :) |
| 15:02.50 | haste | you have time for that initially :) |
| 15:03.15 | alestane | That's good code to consider, tlund, but not just against the possibility that you might log in already in combat. |
| 15:04.08 | cbreak | SC2 4v4 is... laggy :/ |
| 15:04.11 | alestane | I do that in Demonomicon because I reconfigure secure buttons based on events that potentially can fire in combat, like "SPELLS_CHANGED". |
| 15:04.49 | tlund | when "PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED" fires, are combat restrictions already in place? is there an event that fires just BEFORE the restrictions apply? |
| 15:05.29 | haste | after PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD combat lockdown starts if you login during combat |
| 15:05.31 | cbreak | you can still do stuff |
| 15:05.45 | cbreak | during a REGEN_DISABLED |
| 15:06.38 | tlund | no, just tested. when "PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED" fires InCombatLockdown() is still false. |
| 15:06.43 | alestane | "PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED" is your last chance to take protected actions until "PLAY_REGEN_ENABLED" fires. |
| 15:06.51 | alestane | sp* |
| 15:06.54 | tlund | exactly. perfect! |
| 15:07.48 | alestane | If you get events that should require an update, but you can't right now because you're in combat, you can register your handler to fire on PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED to apply your pending changes. |
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| 15:19.32 | alestane | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7UmUX68KtE |
| 15:21.02 | tlund | -- this makes LibJostle-3.0 stop moving the mainmenubar |
| 15:21.02 | tlund | if ( not _G["Gypsy_HotBarCapsule"] ) then |
| 15:21.02 | tlund | _G["Gypsy_HotBarCapsule"] = {} |
| 15:21.02 | tlund | end |
| 15:21.05 | tlund | is that correct? |
| 15:21.19 | foxlit | Drop the _G[""] |
| 15:21.24 | tlund | really? |
| 15:21.57 | tlund | i was under the impression i was no longer allowed to access any global variables directly in 4.0? |
| 15:22.07 | foxlit | wrong impression |
| 15:22.21 | tlund | when do i need to use _G[]? |
| 15:22.41 | foxlit | When you cannot write the name of the variable you want to access beforehand |
| 15:23.13 | tlund | hmmm... can you give an example? im afraid i did not understand that? like when it has to be concatinated from other strings? |
| 15:23.18 | alestane | Exactly. |
| 15:23.50 | tlund | so i must use_G["blah"..i]:Hide() instead of blah..i:Hide(), but blah3:Hide() is ok? |
| 15:23.56 | alestane | Yep. |
| 15:24.00 | tlund | thank you! |
| 15:24.22 | alestane | When you have to choose your variables programmatically at runtime. |
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| 15:27.53 | alestane | "blah..i:Hide()" would attempt to concatenate blah with the result of hiding i. |
| 15:28.57 | Humbedooh | now you're just nitpicking, alestane ;p |
| 15:30.05 | tlund | would i be allowed to du foo = blah..i; foo:Hide(); and skipp using _G[] then? |
| 15:30.19 | tlund | (that will be slower i guess, but just curious) |
| 15:30.24 | Humbedooh | noooes |
| 15:30.30 | Kraps | alestane: i "pfft" at your logic |
| 15:30.55 | Humbedooh | that would just make foo = (value of blah) .. (value of i) |
| 15:31.14 | Humbedooh | essentially an attempt to make a string value, not a frame object |
| 15:31.24 | alestane | No, tlund. That would set foo to the string "blah"..i. Strings don't have a Hide method. |
| 15:33.49 | tlund | alestane: aaaahh! |
| 15:34.45 | tlund | ok, different question. After PLAYER_LOGIN has triggered, is there any reason to call UnregisterEvent("PLAYER_LOGIN")? |
| 15:35.37 | alestane | It might shave a few picoseconds of your frame's event dispatch, but not really. |
| 15:35.41 | Yssaril | tlund: not really though it could make event processing faster (depending how that is done C side) |
| 15:36.03 | Humbedooh | PLAYER_LOGIN: "Triggered immediately before PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD on login and UI Reload, but NOT when entering/leaving instances. " |
| 15:36.19 | tlund | exactly |
| 15:36.19 | Humbedooh | so yes if you don't want it to trigger on reloading UI, otherwise no |
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| 15:36.47 | tlund | my question was really regarding if having it still registered would someone consume resources (other than a few bytes in the table) |
| 15:36.49 | Yssaril | Humbedooh: it will always trigger on reload even if you unregister since the whole addon just got reloaded :P |
| 15:37.10 | Humbedooh | unless it's a load on demand thingy ;< |
| 15:37.19 | Humbedooh | which...would then be unloaded.. |
| 15:37.22 | Humbedooh | and blargh |
| 15:37.26 | Yssaril | :P |
| 15:37.46 | Humbedooh | I wouldn't think it consumes more than a few bytes in memory though, tlund |
| 15:38.01 | Yssaril | tlund: its personal preference imo |
| 15:38.12 | tlund | ok |
| 15:38.15 | Humbedooh | the C code probably gets an event, then looks up which frames has it, not the other way around |
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| 15:38.32 | tlund | what one is prefered (and why)? |
| 15:38.32 | tlund | function tlund.OnEvent(self, event, a1, a2, a3, a4, a5, a6, a7, a8, a9, a10, a11, a12) |
| 15:38.35 | tlund | function tlund.OnEvent(self, event, ...) |
| 15:38.38 | tlund | local a1, a2, a3, a4, a5, a6, a7, a8, a9, a10, a11, a12 = ... |
| 15:38.50 | Humbedooh | depends on what you want to do :p |
| 15:39.01 | Humbedooh | the ... is easiest if you don't know how many arguments will be passed |
| 15:39.05 | Yssaril | tlund: the first because it assinges everything for you in one action instead of taking two |
| 15:39.21 | tlund | Humbedooh: if less arugments are passed, the rest will just be unset? |
| 15:39.27 | alestane | Usually, I assign locals with meaningful names AFTER i've determined what event it is and what the arguments will mean. |
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| 15:39.50 | Yssaril | depends how you do your event handler :) |
| 15:39.58 | Humbedooh | yes, but sometimes you want to fx. iterate over all passed args, tlund |
| 15:40.01 | tlund | alestane: yeah, so if event == "foo" then blah, foo = ... you mean? |
| 15:40.09 | Humbedooh | and then you need to know where to start and stop |
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| 15:40.55 | alestane | Pretty much..."if event == 'UNIT_SPELLCAST_SENT' then local unit, spell, rank, target = ... --[[stuff]] end" |
| 15:41.34 | tlund | ok |
| 15:41.42 | Humbedooh | indeedy |
| 15:41.49 | Humbedooh | otherwise you end up with a loooot of reassignments |
| 15:41.51 | alestane | That has the added benefit of reminding you what the args are supposed to be. |
| 15:42.04 | tlund | yeah |
| 15:43.14 | tlund | is this legal? if (event == "ADDON_LOADED") then DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Addon " .. ... .. " loaded."); end |
| 15:43.27 | tlund | (the addon name is in arg1) |
| 15:43.49 | Humbedooh | that'd be a bad idea |
| 15:43.50 | tlund | (no, i am not going to do anything like that, just wondering if it is legal syntax and would work) |
| 15:43.58 | alestane | It's legal. |
| 15:44.00 | Yssaril | tlund: nope but you can do print("addonname", ...) |
| 15:44.13 | Humbedooh | it might work, it might not :p |
| 15:44.56 | tlund | just tested - it works :) |
| 15:44.57 | alestane | It won't work if you leave out the spaces, I think, but if they're in there then the tokenizing should be unambiguous. |
| 15:45.10 | tlund | yeah |
| 15:45.29 | Humbedooh | also with multiple arguments? |
| 15:45.40 | alestane | You'd be better off doing [[if (event == "ADDON_LOADED") then DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("Addon " .. (...) .. " loaded."); end]]. |
| 15:46.07 | alestane | It won't print out multiple arguments, no; only the first one in ... |
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| 15:46.12 | Yssaril | Humbedooh: should still work but only grab the first arg i think |
| 15:46.15 | Humbedooh | or if (...) is nil ;\ |
| 15:46.49 | alestane | In that particular case, it never would be...but in cases where it could be, of course you'd have to guard that. |
| 15:46.54 | Yssaril | just use print() instead of AddMessage imo unless you need it to go to a speciffic frame |
| 15:46.55 | Kraps | http://www.wowhead.com/blog#screenshots:167544:10 http://www.wowhead.com/blog#screenshots:167544:1 |
| 15:47.18 | Kraps | http://www.wowhead.com/blog#screenshots:167544:10 |
| 15:47.21 | tlund | Yssaril: yeah, thats just something I have copy-pasted around since wow 1.x :) |
| 15:47.21 | Cide | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p08_KlTKP50&feature=player_embedded |
| 15:47.23 | Kraps | derp |
| 15:48.56 | Humbedooh | herp de derp indeed |
| 15:50.22 | Yssaril | Cide: nice |
| 15:50.31 | Kraps | ^ |
| 15:50.51 | cog|away | creepy... my dog is dreaming with his eyes partially open |
| 15:53.45 | Ackis | what's the url for beta character transfers? |
| 15:53.50 | tlund | [17:47] #wowuidev+<Cide> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p08_KlTKP50&feature=player_embedded |
| 15:53.59 | tlund | ^ that guy who is turning can not count. :( |
| 15:54.10 | tlund | when he is at 3.5 turns he sais "that is 2" |
| 15:54.14 | tlund | says |
| 15:55.14 | tlund | however - VERY COOL! |
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| 15:57.55 | cogwheel | Cairenn: *hug* |
| 16:01.00 | Ackis | my beta char transfer failed... interesting |
| 16:02.11 | haste | so did mine |
| 16:02.11 | Ackis | I blame cogwheel |
| 16:02.11 | Ackis | bastard gnome |
| 16:02.23 | haste | it has actually failed twice now |
| 16:02.33 | cogwheel | Ackis: how did you know my parents weren't married? |
| 16:02.58 | Ackis | I'm stalking you |
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| 16:20.35 | awweaver | Hello |
| 16:21.24 | zenzelezz | ohai |
| 16:22.06 | awweaver | Whats everybody up to? |
| 16:22.33 | zenzelezz | mostly watching porn I think |
| 16:22.37 | awweaver | .... |
| 16:22.38 | zenzelezz | their silence suggests it anyhow |
| 16:24.59 | zenzelezz | see, they're not denying it |
| 16:27.10 | awweaver | Im bored...and my wow account is not active, anyone got 15$ so i can acticate it? |
| 16:27.36 | cbreak | why don't you try to play something else? |
| 16:27.56 | awweaver | ....umm theres something else? |
| 16:28.17 | awweaver | i could but well i want to play wow, im having withdrawls |
| 16:28.31 | SqueeG | (fo.o)f |
| 16:29.08 | awweaver | ? |
| 16:30.48 | Kraps | i'm demoing Eufloria! |
| 16:30.55 | Kraps | err -! |
| 16:31.00 | Cide | over worms? |
| 16:31.01 | Cide | fu |
| 16:31.03 | Cide | is it good? |
| 16:31.13 | awweaver | wth are u going on about? |
| 16:31.55 | Kraps | its slow but kinda like an RTT |
| 16:32.35 | awweaver | im lost... |
| 16:32.58 | Kraps | i played the demo of worms and i'm pretty bad |
| 16:33.25 | awweaver | worms? |
| 16:33.45 | Kraps | get with the times http://store.steampowered.com/app/22600/ |
| 16:34.28 | zenzelezz | and to think that not long ago, people frowned if they found out your had worms |
| 16:34.58 | awweaver | ... |
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| 16:37.57 | awweaver | I love this script that someone made for Dropbox... http://dl.dropbox.com/u/425871/index.html |
| 16:38.22 | awweaver | It makes the index.html for u and allows people to browse and dl anything in the folders |
| 16:38.35 | Cide | well that's useful |
| 16:38.37 | Cide | now share that shit |
| 16:38.47 | awweaver | i did... |
| 16:38.54 | awweaver | just click any of the files |
| 16:39.05 | Cide | you shared a page |
| 16:39.14 | Cide | I want the script |
| 16:39.15 | awweaver | do u want a db invite? it will increase my space and yours |
| 16:39.19 | awweaver | o |
| 16:39.21 | Cide | I have dropbox |
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| 16:39.30 | awweaver | ... |
| 16:39.40 | awweaver | http://forums.dropbox.com/topic.php?id=3075&replies=122#post-20814 |
| 16:39.47 | Cide | that was difficult? |
| 16:39.56 | awweaver | ... |
| 16:40.00 | awweaver | ehh |
| 16:40.12 | lordgreg | hi everyone. i know there's oUF interface that looks exactly like default unitframes, just more darker. can anyone tell me which one is it.. i just went through all wowinterface, curse and google... |
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| 16:41.11 | Cide | why would you use oUF to emulate the default unit frames? |
| 16:41.30 | awweaver | yea just get shadowed unit frames |
| 16:41.37 | awweaver | awesome! |
| 16:41.46 | lordgreg | i've been using all of them in my wow history. |
| 16:41.57 | lordgreg | trust me.. i need something simple and "default" |
| 16:41.57 | awweaver | Note: take an hour and configure them though |
| 16:42.30 | lordgreg | i want to emulate the default because taht ouf was darker, just dont know the name; thought some of you know which one that is |
| 16:42.39 | awweaver | u find the download link in the thread cide? |
| 16:44.21 | lordgreg | which page? |
| 16:44.47 | awweaver | not talking about addons... |
| 16:46.04 | Cide | didn't bother |
| 16:46.30 | awweaver | .... |
| 16:46.46 | Cide | well I realized I have too much crap in my dropbox |
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| 16:46.59 | Cide | what I really need is a way to get the public link from something I save in public |
| 16:46.59 | awweaver | thats why i cleaned it out awhile ago... |
| 16:47.10 | awweaver | right click the file... |
| 16:47.20 | Cide | .... |
| 16:47.30 | Cide | in a manner that doesn't take me 50J to do |
| 16:48.47 | awweaver | i hate ads in pandora... |
| 16:50.40 | Kraps | awweaver: i pay for it |
| 16:51.01 | awweaver | I would but i have no job |
| 16:51.18 | awweaver | i did the trial for a day and waht a glorious day it was |
| 16:51.41 | awweaver | Celtic Genre station = awesome |
| 16:51.44 | Kraps | lol |
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| 17:05.00 | Fisker | haste |
| 17:05.03 | Fisker | danish police is awesome |
| 17:05.04 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okej22HfB-o |
| 17:08.05 | haste | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_61s62WKVio comes to mind |
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| 17:11.18 | Fisker | any norwegians too? |
| 17:11.27 | Fisker | cause then we can say scandinavian police is awesome |
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| 17:11.55 | Fisker | this is going to be the new technoviking |
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| 17:23.58 | cogwheel | Fisker: gimme moar cores |
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| 17:26.55 | Fisker | what kind of core cogwheel ? |
| 17:27.34 | cogwheel | cpu |
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| 17:30.24 | Fisker | well you can look forward to 2012 then |
| 17:31.32 | cogwheel | i'm finding myself very CPU bound doing these youtube vids... |
| 17:33.02 | Fisker | you could always buy a gulftown |
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| 17:33.35 | cogwheel | my mobo can only go up to kentsfield :( |
| 17:33.42 | cogwheel | meaning i'd have to get CPU, mobo & RAM |
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| 17:36.50 | Fisker | aww cogwheel |
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| 17:39.27 | Shirik | aww Fisker |
| 17:39.55 | Fisker | aww Shirik |
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| 17:41.53 | Thunder_Child | aww Fisker |
| 17:42.08 | cogwheel | aww cogwheel |
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| 18:10.26 | zenzelezz | "You saved £3.50 with Amazon.co.uk's Pre-order Price Guarantee!" |
| 18:10.35 | zenzelezz | I'm intrigued that Amazon sent me an e-mail just to point this out |
| 18:11.58 | cogwheel | anyone know if the single-threaded performance of a 2.8ghz core i7 would outdo that of a 3.2ghz core 2 duo (first generation) |
| 18:14.09 | A-KO | pretty likely cogwheel |
| 18:14.32 | Olorin__ | I think the instructions per cycle of the I7 is about 10% faster so I doubt it would, however it might handle the OS/background tasks better enough to be the same/better |
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| 18:16.03 | A-KO | depends on the type of stuff you're doing, but the i7 lynnfields (1156 CPUs) auto scale their clock |
| 18:16.48 | A-KO | http://www.intel.com/technology/turboboost/ |
| 18:16.59 | cogwheel | well i know the extra cores and HT would help with video encoding, but i don't want my gaming to suffer |
| 18:17.11 | A-KO | cogwheel: the i7 would pretty much smash it |
| 18:17.22 | A-KO | cogwheel: if cores aren't being used, the i7 will overclock the used cores |
| 18:17.27 | A-KO | and power down the unused ones |
| 18:17.39 | A-KO | When the processor is operating below these limits and the user's workload demands additional performance, the processor frequency will dynamically increase by 133 MHz on short and regular intervals until the upper limit is met or the maximum possible upside for the number of active cores is reached. |
| 18:20.31 | A-KO | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115225 |
| 18:20.46 | A-KO | not sure what Intel's intending with the dual socket releases (i.e. they have 1156 and 1366) |
| 18:21.07 | Fisker | hey cogwheel |
| 18:21.12 | cogwheel | no u |
| 18:21.16 | Ackis | =]\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\..................................................................................................................................cl; c c c c c c c c c c c c i8999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 |
| 18:21.24 | A-KO | Ackis: did a cat just walk on your keyboard? |
| 18:21.24 | cogwheel | ~lart Ackis |
| 18:21.24 | purl | beats Ackis over the head with a microkernel |
| 18:21.33 | Fisker | besides just OC it cogwheel |
| 18:21.36 | cogwheel | cat or pomeranian |
| 18:21.40 | Fisker | 3.2GHz is pretty much within turbo mode limits |
| 18:21.55 | Fisker | heck you can even just buy some DDR3 1333MHz |
| 18:22.08 | Fisker | then adjust that |
| 18:22.14 | A-KO | the i7 930 maxes itself at 3.06Ghz... |
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| 18:22.56 | Fisker | i might recall incorrectly then :o |
| 18:22.56 | A-KO | honestly |
| 18:23.01 | Fisker | but it's still easy to OC to 3,2 |
| 18:23.02 | A-KO | I'd go i7-860 |
| 18:23.12 | Fisker | well |
| 18:23.19 | Fisker | you might want to wait the few months for Sandy Bridge |
| 18:23.25 | A-KO | that's true, too |
| 18:23.27 | Fisker | that'll be a pretty decent improvement |
| 18:23.35 | A-KO | they've been a bit silent, just releasing some refreshes |
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| 18:23.43 | A-KO | pushed out some new stuff on the very high end |
| 18:23.48 | cogwheel | yeah i can't do any of this now anyway |
| 18:23.49 | A-KO | but nothing mid-end to replace the i7 8xx series |
| 18:24.00 | cogwheel | unless my youtube channel gets super popular and people start donating ;) |
| 18:24.11 | Fisker | http://www.anandtech.com/show/3871/the-sandy-bridge-preview-three-wins-in-a-row <-take a look at this shit |
| 18:24.14 | A-KO | but essentially cogwheel, yes--the memory bus is faster, the cpus are faster in general, better architecture, and they scale their performance as needed based on power/thermal usage :P |
| 18:24.44 | A-KO | lol |
| 18:24.46 | A-KO | funny |
| 18:24.52 | A-KO | start of that article repeats what I just said... |
| 18:27.07 | A-KO | omg |
| 18:27.08 | A-KO | seriously intel |
| 18:27.10 | A-KO | another new socket |
| 18:27.11 | A-KO | 1155 |
| 18:27.12 | A-KO | wtf |
| 18:27.22 | cogwheel | planned obsolescence |
| 18:27.34 | cogwheel | i wonder if mobo manufacturers have a hand in that... |
| 18:28.08 | Fisker | they're bringing out another performance/extreme socket in late 2011 |
| 18:28.10 | Fisker | LGA-2011 |
| 18:28.14 | Fisker | (yeah 2011) |
| 18:28.30 | A-KO | lol |
| 18:28.49 | Fisker | i'm personally waiting for that |
| 18:29.49 | Fisker | but it annoys me that they can't sync the releases |
| 18:30.12 | Fisker | the "mainstream" components they'll launch in a few months can probably rival the i7-930 pretty well |
| 18:30.16 | Fisker | so you buy that |
| 18:30.26 | Fisker | then a year passes buy and you get the extreme/performance components |
| 18:30.27 | Fisker | baww |
| 18:30.29 | Fisker | by* |
| 18:32.48 | A-KO | I'll probably snag the 2600 series |
| 18:32.56 | A-KO | 2600 or the 2500 |
| 18:32.58 | A-KO | depending on pricing |
| 18:34.06 | A-KO | ram's pricey these days, too |
| 18:34.15 | A-KO | I was hoping to snag 12G in my next upgrade but I'll probably just shoot for 6 |
| 18:36.01 | Fisker | hoping for 64GB in my next upgrade |
| 18:36.09 | Fisker | but probably gonna settle with 32GB |
| 18:36.10 | A-KO | well |
| 18:36.15 | A-KO | :P |
| 18:36.28 | A-KO | I think my core 2 should handle well for quite a bit more time |
| 18:36.34 | A-KO | I've extended the life of my computer by a fair bit |
| 18:36.55 | A-KO | threw in an SSD, put in a GTX 460 |
| 18:37.23 | cogwheel | yeah, i hadn't really wanted an upgrade until i started doing video processing... My c2d has treated me well these last almost 4 years |
| 18:37.43 | A-KO | I mean these days there's not much more one can do |
| 18:37.48 | A-KO | to me, everything seems fairly incremental |
| 18:37.59 | A-KO | short of some drastic overhaul in how they actually work and connect.... |
| 18:40.47 | foxlit | cogwheel: if youre contemplating c2d -> i7, you'll basically end up changing everything but the GPU/drives. |
| 18:40.55 | cogwheel | *nod* |
| 18:41.24 | cogwheel | i'd get a kentsfield quad core if they still made them |
| 18:41.30 | cogwheel | since my mobo supports it |
| 18:44.15 | Fisker | hey cogwheel |
| 18:44.20 | cogwheel | no u |
| 18:44.33 | Fisker | what movies are you making btw? |
| 18:45.17 | cogwheel | http://www.youtube.com/user/cogwheel42 where'v u been? |
| 18:45.27 | Fisker | lol 42 |
| 18:45.56 | Fisker | it's a shame they never got to include that video recording tool :( |
| 18:50.12 | Fisker | i'm right cogwheel |
| 18:52.04 | A-KO | http://highscalability.com/blog/2010/9/5/hilarious-video-relational-database-vs-nosql-fanbois.html |
| 18:52.05 | amro | cogwheel: what video card do you use? |
| 18:52.05 | A-KO | hahaha |
| 18:52.21 | cogwheel | amro: ati 4870 |
| 18:52.28 | Fisker | lol ati |
| 18:52.34 | cogwheel | Fisker: i no rite? |
| 18:52.52 | cogwheel | i happened to be in the market for a video card when that was the best perf for the $ |
| 18:53.06 | amro | I get the same kind of freeze as in the beginning of that vid |
| 18:53.29 | amro | except sometimes I also get huge texture corruption afterward, happens to me in shader heavy source games as well |
| 18:53.41 | amro | when it happens to me online, it's gg :( |
| 18:53.43 | cogwheel | that's only ever happened while i was recording with fraps |
| 18:54.43 | amro | my theory is that it's a memory problem |
| 18:54.56 | amro | I'm only on 2GB |
| 18:55.01 | cogwheel | i've got 6 |
| 18:55.37 | amro | well, if you can ever run firefox in the background with sc2 to confirm that it's a memory issue, that'd be neat ;) |
| 18:55.37 | A-KO | yo |
| 18:55.40 | A-KO | watch the link I posted |
| 18:55.40 | A-KO | holy shit |
| 18:55.41 | A-KO | hahahaha |
| 18:55.49 | cogwheel | amro: lulz |
| 18:56.24 | cogwheel | mrs. cog usually has ~6 windows, each with 20 or 30 tabs open... |
| 18:58.58 | SqueeG | fuck |
| 18:59.11 | SqueeG | I bit into my pizza to see if it was hot enough to eat |
| 18:59.13 | SqueeG | ....it was not |
| 18:59.31 | zenzelezz | could've been worse |
| 18:59.40 | zenzelezz | you could've bit into it to see if it was too hot to eat |
| 18:59.58 | SqueeG | shit |
| 19:00.03 | SqueeG | yea i meant too hot |
| 19:00.06 | Fisker | i once bit into a too hot pizza |
| 19:00.11 | SqueeG | why did i even type it the other way? >.< |
| 19:00.12 | zenzelezz | then ouch |
| 19:00.15 | SqueeG | my brain needs a reboot |
| 19:00.17 | Fisker | it's like your upper mouth dies |
| 19:00.21 | Fisker | that's how hot it is |
| 19:00.24 | SqueeG | my tongue died |
| 19:00.42 | SqueeG | that touched it first this time, since it was a tentative bite |
| 19:00.56 | SqueeG | Being from the lower end of NY... waiting to eat pizza isn't something we're accustom to |
| 19:01.10 | zenzelezz | hate when the pizza's too hot, and it touches the top of your mouth when you try to bite off a piece |
| 19:01.20 | SqueeG | it's strange, because people from WAY upstate are a completely different breed |
| 19:02.02 | SqueeG | then you get that peely skin at the roof of your mouth later in the week |
| 19:02.10 | SqueeG | and you can't stop touching the burny spot with your tongue |
| 19:02.17 | ccox | "Duke Nukem Forever - new gameplay footage leaks " "Duke Nukem Forever Makes Comeback" --- geez, haven't these people learned from the past? Obviously not. |
| 19:02.34 | ScytheBlade1 | they have a release date |
| 19:02.35 | Humbedooh | oh but it's totally true this time! |
| 19:02.41 | ScytheBlade1 | and it is being done by a different studio |
| 19:02.44 | cogwheel | ccox: 3drealms gave up |
| 19:02.44 | ScytheBlade1 | one that, you know |
| 19:02.44 | Humbedooh | there have been rumors and all that! |
| 19:02.48 | SqueeG | hey hey hey wait |
| 19:02.48 | zenzelezz | Gearbox, isn't it? |
| 19:02.48 | ScytheBlade1 | has produced games this decade |
| 19:02.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes @ zenzelezz |
| 19:02.56 | SqueeG | fallout was in the same category of duke nukem |
| 19:03.02 | SqueeG | and they finally made a new game for THAT |
| 19:03.03 | zenzelezz | Gearbox has come a long way sine Opposing Force |
| 19:03.04 | ccox | it had release dateS before |
| 19:03.11 | ccox | and even preview footage |
| 19:03.15 | ccox | and yet.... |
| 19:03.17 | ScytheBlade1 | But not through a different studio |
| 19:03.20 | cogwheel | ^ |
| 19:03.22 | ScytheBlade1 | With different management |
| 19:03.23 | Humbedooh | I shall look forward to fallout vegas! |
| 19:03.25 | ScytheBlade1 | And different people |
| 19:03.30 | A-KO | ccox: It's playable at PAX |
| 19:03.33 | A-KO | and people have been playing it |
| 19:03.35 | ScytheBlade1 | (With all of the art assets that have been in dev for over a decade...) |
| 19:03.38 | SqueeG | I <3 fallout |
| 19:03.40 | SqueeG | i have them all |
| 19:03.45 | Humbedooh | it's teh good |
| 19:03.50 | ccox | A-KO, yes, and previous versions had playable demos... that never shipped |
| 19:03.53 | SqueeG | i even owned brotherhood of steel for a while xD |
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| 19:04.06 | ccox | video games: don't count them until they ship |
| 19:04.09 | Humbedooh | one thing about fallout tho... |
| 19:04.15 | Humbedooh | it doesn't handle web scale :( |
| 19:04.21 | SqueeG | O_o |
| 19:04.27 | cogwheel | lulz |
| 19:04.29 | ccox | especially with the title "duke nukem forever" |
| 19:04.52 | zenzelezz | this will be great for Gearbox |
| 19:05.02 | Fisker | sigh |
| 19:05.04 | zenzelezz | they can label themselves "The company that brought Duke back from the grave!" |
| 19:05.11 | Fisker | then i think my monitor has some kind of dirt on it |
| 19:05.19 | Fisker | then it turns out to be a plant in wow |
| 19:05.20 | Fisker | ;_; |
| 19:06.35 | SqueeG | lol |
| 19:06.44 | cogwheel | i have dirt on your mom |
| 19:07.56 | SqueeG | French Bread pizza is retardedly delicious |
| 19:08.46 | zenzelezz | is that those long (not round) things? |
| 19:09.49 | SqueeG | they're long, with one end being round, the other is flat, from being cut |
| 19:10.20 | SqueeG | they're available frozen, in food stores xD |
| 19:10.23 | zenzelezz | yeah, that's the one. They're nice with the right stuff on them |
| 19:10.27 | SqueeG | perfect snack :3 |
| 19:12.27 | SqueeG | argh |
| 19:12.39 | SqueeG | guidmate's account is compromised -.- |
| 19:12.48 | Fisker | owned |
| 19:13.05 | Fisker | cogwheel |
| 19:13.09 | Fisker | denmark can't rocket btw |
| 19:15.15 | mikma | guildmatea account is perfect snack |
| 19:15.49 | Ackis | apparently my cats wanted to talk to y'all on IRC |
| 19:16.00 | Humbedooh | meooow |
| 19:16.02 | zenzelezz | I love the taste of shards in the morning... smells like... gold |
| 19:16.06 | SqueeG | lol |
| 19:16.10 | zenzelezz | fails |
| 19:16.28 | mikma | morning? try 10:16pm |
| 19:16.41 | zenzelezz | I'd like to say I can't do two things at once, but I should have been able to do one thing and nothing more |
| 19:16.54 | Humbedooh | juu juu |
| 19:17.14 | mikma | joo joo |
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| 19:21.45 | Ackis | anyone want to move to Edmonton and be my roommate? |
| 19:21.48 | Ackis | Torhal: ^ |
| 19:21.50 | Ackis | :P |
| 19:21.59 | SqueeG | what kind of school ackis? |
| 19:22.02 | SqueeG | and do you bath? :P |
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| 19:22.03 | mikma | if you pay the move and the rent |
| 19:22.21 | Ackis | I don't go to school, just looking for some extra money to support my crack habbit |
| 19:22.36 | mikma | sell more crack |
| 19:22.45 | Ackis | I prefer to consume it |
| 19:22.47 | SqueeG | he consumes too much to sell at profit, mikma |
| 19:22.55 | Ackis | right Kraps? ;) |
| 19:23.11 | mikma | its called failing |
| 19:23.15 | Fisker | i will kill you for free Ackis ? |
| 19:23.17 | mikma | he does it right |
| 19:26.36 | Thunder_Child | could be workse Ackis. you could have an addiction to something that is really expesive. |
| 19:26.42 | Thunder_Child | like magic cards |
| 19:26.46 | SqueeG | lol |
| 19:27.00 | Fisker | i will kill you then Ackis |
| 19:27.39 | SqueeG | i was addicted to coke once... |
| 19:27.46 | SqueeG | but the bubbles tickled my nose |
| 19:27.48 | zenzelezz | capital or lowercase Coke? |
| 19:27.50 | SqueeG | So i switched to pepsi |
| 19:28.05 | SqueeG | too quick for me zenzelezz ;) |
| 19:28.28 | zenzelezz | how did the bubbles get in your nose? |
| 19:28.38 | SqueeG | ahahaha |
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| 19:29.36 | Ackis | http://edmonton.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-electronics-27-CRT-TV-W0QQAdIdZ228103512 |
| 19:29.37 | Ackis | keke |
| 19:29.56 | Ackis | Thunder_Child: I have an addictive personality, I've spent thousands on WoW TCG cards |
| 19:30.11 | Thunder_Child | same :( |
| 19:30.12 | Ackis | I blew $700 on the original WoW CE |
| 19:30.24 | Thunder_Child | oh, not wow tcg |
| 19:30.25 | Ackis | ~google sell sperm edmonton |
| 19:30.29 | Thunder_Child | but tcg ye |
| 19:30.29 | Thunder_Child | s |
| 19:31.04 | Thunder_Child | ~g |
| 19:31.05 | purl | i guess g is google |
| 19:31.12 | Thunder_Child | ~g ackis |
| 19:31.17 | Thunder_Child | huh |
| 19:31.21 | Thunder_Child | ~fail purl |
| 19:31.21 | purl | purl: FAIL! |
| 19:32.00 | Arrowmaster | http://i.imgur.com/zMbIf.png |
| 19:32.33 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: get the pets? |
| 19:33.33 | Fisker | lol Ackis |
| 19:33.38 | Fisker | i should kill you where you stand |
| 19:34.20 | augustl | I have a rectangle of 640x960px. I know the coordinates of it's corners. I want to draw a given coordinate on it (or nothing if it's out of bounds). Halp :S |
| 19:34.21 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: basically yeah but I wanted the CE itself just to have it /shrug |
| 19:34.24 | Fisker | oh sweet Arrowmaster someone were using your email like with me? |
| 19:34.34 | augustl | completely off topic btw \o/ |
| 19:34.35 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: want to do some co-op halo wars? |
| 19:34.51 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: i guess |
| 19:35.11 | Ackis | I can't do party chat however |
| 19:35.14 | Ackis | I'm in the kinect beta |
| 19:35.29 | Arrowmaster | give me a bit until this guy im spectating in blazblue leaves, its a bitch to find a room to stay in and spectate for the achievement |
| 19:35.45 | Fisker | Ackis your kinect can't canadian |
| 19:35.52 | Ackis | k |
| 19:35.56 | Ackis | Fisker: yes it can |
| 19:35.58 | Ackis | dumbass |
| 19:35.59 | Ackis | :P |
| 19:36.00 | Fisker | naw |
| 19:36.02 | Ackis | it can't dutch |
| 19:36.03 | Fisker | it can't |
| 19:36.05 | Ackis | or dane |
| 19:36.08 | Ackis | or w/e you are ;) |
| 19:36.13 | Fisker | can't canadian either |
| 19:36.18 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: has your GF learned 'xbox off' yet? |
| 19:36.29 | Ackis | there is no command like that hehe |
| 19:36.30 | Fisker | xbox rrod you mean |
| 19:36.42 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: there was during one of the trade shows |
| 19:36.52 | Fisker | but it doesn't matter since canadians can't voice commands |
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| 19:37.04 | Ackis | hmm I've tried, maybe it's through the kinect menu? |
| 19:37.20 | Arrowmaster | do you have espn on the beta? |
| 19:37.30 | Arrowmaster | i know there was an 'espn off' one |
| 19:37.37 | Ackis | nope |
| 19:37.39 | Fisker | jerk |
| 19:37.44 | Ackis | I don't think I'll get it |
| 19:37.51 | Ackis | being Canadian and all |
| 19:37.59 | Fisker | just like voice commands |
| 19:38.50 | Arrowmaster | so do you have to pay for kinect when it comes out or can you just use the beta hardware? |
| 19:39.00 | Ackis | no one knows yet |
| 19:39.20 | Fisker | of course microsoft will be jerks |
| 19:39.37 | Ackis | they did give away the new Xbox 360S at E3, so I might get kinect for free |
| 19:39.54 | Fisker | it's like asking if you can keep your 85 character on cataclysm |
| 19:40.02 | Arrowmaster | children of eden game is the only thing making me even consider getting kinect |
| 19:40.09 | Arrowmaster | but i dont think it would even work in my room |
| 19:40.21 | Fisker | i wanted it for pc stuff |
| 19:40.26 | Fisker | but they heavily nerfed it |
| 19:40.34 | Fisker | and they probably won't go through with it for the PC anyway |
| 19:40.34 | Ackis | how far away is your TV from where you play in your room? |
| 19:40.37 | Fisker | console fags that they are |
| 19:40.45 | Arrowmaster | i dont have a TV |
| 19:40.50 | Arrowmaster | i use my pc monitor |
| 19:40.53 | Ackis | ah |
| 19:40.54 | Arrowmaster | which is on a desk |
| 19:41.09 | Ackis | the official distance is 6-8 feet |
| 19:41.24 | Arrowmaster | i would have to move the chair out of the room to get 3 feet from the monitor |
| 19:41.41 | cbreak | I doubt screen distance matters |
| 19:41.44 | Arrowmaster | and im not sure if i put the kinect ontop of the monitor if it could even see my feet |
| 19:41.45 | cbreak | camera distance will |
| 19:42.04 | Arrowmaster | can i mount it on my ceiling? |
| 19:42.09 | Ackis | cbreak: you're suppose to put the camera on top of your screen or just below/in front of it |
| 19:42.18 | Ackis | from what they've officially said |
| 19:42.30 | Ackis | no idea, I'm just going with the official stuff |
| 19:43.14 | cbreak | it's only one camera? |
| 19:43.22 | Fisker | so Ackis |
| 19:43.23 | cbreak | thought the system works with depth from perspective |
| 19:43.57 | Ackis | http://www.xbox.com/en-CA/kinect |
| 19:44.18 | cbreak | oh god |
| 19:44.26 | cbreak | that's the first time I saw silverlight on the internet, live |
| 19:44.34 | Ackis | is looking forward to Kinect Animals |
| 19:44.42 | Ackis | all things MS have silverlight |
| 19:44.53 | Ackis | and the olympics had a silverlight viewer :( |
| 19:45.05 | cbreak | the kinectimals cover looks creepy |
| 19:45.22 | cbreak | I won't waste resources getting silverlight working on OS X |
| 19:45.42 | cbreak | if Microsoft has any pride, they probably made it extra crappy as revenge for the Windows iTunes |
| 19:46.02 | Ackis | lol |
| 19:46.03 | Iriel | cbreak: I have silverlight workingon OSX, it's not that hard |
| 19:46.21 | cbreak | is a self declared flash hater |
| 19:46.25 | Arrowmaster | i dont have it working on linux |
| 19:46.30 | cbreak | silverlight goes into the same bucket :) |
| 19:46.37 | Arrowmaster | because only silverlight 1.x works i think |
| 19:46.51 | Torhal | Ackis: You live in Canada, and have a GF. how the hell would I be your roommate, considering the fact that I have a GF and son...? |
| 19:46.54 | Arrowmaster | i tried moonlight 2 and it didnt work for bungie.net |
| 19:47.30 | Ackis | Torhal: I have 2 extra rooms :D |
| 19:47.39 | Kraps | hey Ackis |
| 19:48.41 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
| 19:49.14 | Kraps | i hey Ackisd first |
| 19:49.55 | cbreak | "We are sorry, the page you requested cannot be found." when I got to http://www.microsoft.com/silverlight/resources/installationFiles.aspx |
| 19:50.06 | cbreak | they actually did take revenge :) |
| 19:50.20 | Ackis | no u |
| 19:50.24 | Kraps | they're still looking for it |
| 19:52.41 | Fisker | i hey Ackisd second Kraps |
| 19:52.52 | Kraps | so? |
| 19:56.22 | Fisker | right back at you? |
| 20:00.49 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: what version of halo wars do you have? some one said the platinum hits came with the 2 DLC packs. |
| 20:01.33 | Arrowmaster | i have the CE |
| 20:02.44 | Fisker | i have the CE |
| 20:02.44 | Ackis | ah I bought a used CE... it was french :( so I went out and bought a used normal |
| 20:03.13 | Arrowmaster | i got a new CE on sale online |
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| 20:04.43 | zenzelezz | I CE what you did there |
| 20:04.45 | Fisker | i got the new CE |
| 20:05.39 | Arrowmaster | youve got the clap |
| 20:06.02 | Fisker | what clap? |
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| 20:17.06 | Arrowmaster | ok Ackis let me find my halo wars disc |
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| 20:17.46 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: halo wars now or you gonna do something else? (doesn't matter, just don't want to sit around waiting) |
| 20:17.56 | Arrowmaster | now |
| 20:18.50 | Arrowmaster | can we use ingame voice chat? |
| 20:19.16 | Ackis | aight, heading to my couch then |
| 20:19.24 | Ackis | yeah |
| 20:19.27 | Ackis | should be able to |
| 20:20.09 | Arrowmaster | good ive not played the game before |
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| 20:26.45 | industrial | http://github.com/Industrial/linux-configfiles/commit/6e3978b20f018d3c6154b076e85a9501c8354295 |
| 20:26.49 | industrial | <33333333333 |
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| 20:59.31 | *** topic/#wowuidev is http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ || 3.3.x ToC: 30300 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || 3.3.5 Patch Notes are up: http://cot.ag/aCj0Wy || Are you going to BlizzCon (Oct 22 & 23)? http://tinyurl.com/22kjfxu || Cataclysm Beta Keys for Authors! http://cot.ag/aG4uy6 or http://cot.ag/bYZvjt || Cata Beta UI download: http://bit.ly/cvplpG |
| 21:01.48 | Fisker | our hairdryer failed |
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| 21:10.49 | Kraps | wow they delayed DNF again |
| 21:11.11 | Fisker | ? |
| 21:11.55 | Kraps | they're trying to avoid selling to Fisker |
| 21:12.32 | Kraps | nvm |
| 21:12.40 | Fisker | hmm |
| 21:12.51 | Fisker | i wonder what will happen to the 2 ZG mounts now that they're removing ZG? |
| 21:14.38 | Warloco | ^ thats what Im farming it for |
| 21:14.41 | Warloco | on my warrior |
| 21:18.29 | Kraps | Cide: i played what felt like 2 hours of an Eufloria "arena" game, where you have to expand to your opponents "base". there were a few AIs but i think i took too long because the last AI had multiple asteroids and whenever i took 1 he would hit right back with overwhelming force |
| 21:18.51 | Kraps | ended up quiting |
| 21:21.50 | the-golem | i thought the ZG mounts were removed from game a while ago? |
| 21:22.48 | Warloco | dont think so |
| 21:22.59 | the-golem | someone lied to me ^^ |
| 21:23.07 | the-golem | oh well |
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| 21:29.14 | Dagmar | Forget the mounts, when they take out ZG there'll be no more FREE BEER SPAWNS! |
| 21:29.39 | zenzelezz | say what? |
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| 21:37.06 | DJJeff | !seen DJJeff |
| 21:37.15 | DJJeff | oh |
| 21:37.28 | DJJeff | where is the bot |
| 21:37.51 | DJJeff | maybe this isnt right channel |
| 21:37.53 | foxlit | ~botsnack |
| 21:37.53 | purl | thanks, foxlit |
| 21:37.58 | DJJeff | ah |
| 21:38.00 | DJJeff | purl |
| 21:38.18 | DJJeff | who owns purl I wanna ask what seen script they use |
| 21:38.32 | foxlit | purl, who are you? |
| 21:38.33 | purl | foxlit: I think you lost me on that one |
| 21:38.33 | DJJeff | unless its a custom script |
| 21:38.36 | foxlit | purl, what are you? |
| 21:38.36 | purl | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 21:38.41 | DJJeff | ah |
| 21:38.42 | DJJeff | ok |
| 21:38.44 | DJJeff | TY |
| 21:38.53 | DJJeff | google search :) |
| 21:39.02 | foxlit | purl, blootbot |
| 21:39.03 | purl | blootbot is, like, an IRC bot written in perl descended from infobot. Hosted on SF. This project is now merged back into the main infobot project. See [infobot] |
| 21:39.16 | DJJeff | yes |
| 21:39.22 | DJJeff | found on sourceforge |
| 21:39.40 | DJJeff | thank you |
| 21:40.18 | DJJeff | doesnt say if it uses .tcl scripts |
| 21:40.21 | DJJeff | like eggdrop |
| 21:40.39 | zenzelezz | dude |
| 21:40.42 | zenzelezz | you just said the T word |
| 21:40.48 | DJJeff | T? |
| 21:40.52 | Thunder_Child | ~infobot |
| 21:40.52 | purl | thunder_child, i love abuse, feed me!, or whack, yo |
| 21:40.52 | zenzelezz | Tcl |
| 21:41.07 | DJJeff | is that a bad word? |
| 21:41.12 | Thunder_Child | ~purl |
| 21:41.12 | purl | methinks purl is a piece of very bad coding. |
| 21:41.16 | zenzelezz | did you ever use Tcl? |
| 21:41.21 | DJJeff | yes |
| 21:41.33 | DJJeff | eggdrop uses TCL |
| 21:41.34 | zenzelezz | then I don't understand your question |
| 21:42.11 | cralor | purl, how old are you |
| 21:42.11 | purl | 900 ... like Yoda ... |
| 21:42.14 | DJJeff | purl > eggdrop? |
| 21:42.14 | purl | i guess eggdrop is The Leading Brand of irc bot. It's scripted with TCL, current in 2.0.0 (though 1.3.28 is the version of choice), and can be found at ftp://raistlin.toledolink.com/pub/eggdrop or sucks compared to a real bot such as myself or 1.3.28 is pretty stable, but nifty |
| 21:42.36 | DJJeff | hahahaha |
| 21:42.38 | zenzelezz | DJJeff: do you not understand that I'm just bashing Tcl? |
| 21:42.39 | DJJeff | sucks compared to me |
| 21:42.52 | DJJeff | whats wrong with TCL |
| 21:42.56 | Thunder_Child | ~owner |
| 21:42.56 | purl | TimRiker is my owner |
| 21:42.59 | DJJeff | vuln ? |
| 21:43.10 | cralor | purl, where do you live |
| 21:43.10 | purl | in a call center in india |
| 21:43.14 | foxlit | Tcl is not Lua. |
| 21:43.22 | DJJeff | !seen TimRiker |
| 21:43.31 | DJJeff | .seen TimRiker |
| 21:43.45 | DJJeff | ~seen TimRiker |
| 21:43.46 | purl | timriker <timr@slick.rikers.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #infobot, 11d 22h 31m 50s ago, saying: '~rot13 TimRiker '. |
| 21:44.39 | DJJeff | zenzelezz: is TCL vuln to exploit ? |
| 21:44.56 | zenzelezz | no idea, why? |
| 21:44.59 | cralor | purl, scream |
| 21:44.59 | purl | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!!! |
| 21:45.02 | Dagmar | WTB way to stab mouthy warriors remotely |
| 21:45.09 | DJJeff | X_X |
| 21:45.12 | cralor | i love purl |
| 21:46.28 | Dagmar | tcl is shit and eggdrop is a nightmare, but... there's really nothing better available. |
| 21:46.41 | DJJeff | mIRC scripts |
| 21:46.43 | DJJeff | X_X |
| 21:46.55 | foxlit | Write your own IRC client in practically any language? |
| 21:47.01 | Dagmar | That fails at "better" in every sense of the word. |
| 21:47.44 | DJJeff | nice forums |
| 21:47.45 | DJJeff | http://sourceforge.net/projects/blootbot/forums |
| 21:47.53 | foxlit | Odd senses, Dagmar. |
| 21:48.10 | Dagmar | You'd say mIRC is preferable to eggdrop for running a bot? |
| 21:48.13 | DJJeff | last action 2007 |
| 21:48.24 | foxlit | Ah, wait, that wasn't to me? Okay then. |
| 21:48.28 | Dagmar | DJJeff: Not suprising |
| 21:48.42 | DJJeff | eggdrop = 24/7 ..... mirc scripts.... not 24/7 |
| 21:48.54 | cralor | purl, do you fart on fisker? |
| 21:48.54 | purl | yes, I fart on fisker. |
| 21:49.07 | Dagmar | The problem with IRC bot development is that the vast and overwhelming majority of the users are entitled pricks who can't program their VCR let alone write coherent tcl or C. |
| 21:49.11 | zenzelezz | DJJeff: "<purl> blootbot is, like, an IRC bot written in perl descended from infobot. Hosted on SF. This project is now merged back into the main infobot project. See [infobot]" |
| 21:49.20 | zenzelezz | seems you may want to look at infobot, not blootbot |
| 21:49.29 | Dagmar | You can write a _primitive_ IRC bot in about 200 lines of perl. |
| 21:49.31 | DJJeff | ok |
| 21:49.39 | DJJeff | infobot on SF ? |
| 21:49.42 | Dagmar | Whether or not it'll be useful for much more than repeating facts is entirely questionable, tho |
| 21:50.02 | DJJeff | http://sourceforge.net/projects/infobot/ |
| 21:50.20 | DJJeff | " 50% of 3 users recommend this project " |
| 21:50.31 | DJJeff | cracks up loling |
| 21:50.42 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:50.53 | foxlit | I should stop trying to make sense of that twitter account. |
| 21:51.00 | Dagmar | Yeah most of the time the people coding a new bot seem to hit a point where they just say "Fuck this. I'll deal with eggdrop." |
| 21:51.43 | DJJeff | for the lazy coder |
| 21:51.51 | DJJeff | Dagmar: are you lazy? |
| 21:51.59 | cbreak | weird how I get to play on 4 player maps when I play 1v1 in starcraft |
| 21:52.02 | Dagmar | Why are you even asking that |
| 21:52.06 | cbreak | but when I play 2v2, I don't play on them |
| 21:52.20 | foxlit | cbreak: oh? |
| 21:52.30 | foxlit | Lost Temple et al? |
| 21:52.32 | DJJeff | Dagmar: I don't think you are lazy then |
| 21:52.33 | cbreak | yeah |
| 21:52.36 | cralor | purl, what is yahoo |
| 21:52.36 | purl | it has been said that yahoo is at http://www.google.com |
| 21:52.43 | DJJeff | X_X |
| 21:52.47 | cbreak | purl is a liar |
| 21:52.49 | cbreak | or a joker |
| 21:52.49 | foxlit | hasn't been paying attention to the 2v2 map rotation |
| 21:52.58 | cralor | purl, do you lie |
| 21:52.58 | purl | yes, I lie. |
| 21:53.12 | DJJeff | will starcraft 2 have ADDONS ? |
| 21:53.16 | Dagmar | At one point I actually sat down and coded a perl replacement for eggdrop that could even talk to other eggs. My "fuck it" moment came when I started trying to deal with two problems that didn't have well-published solutions at the time. |
| 21:53.18 | cbreak | it does not have yet |
| 21:53.22 | cralor | purl, cry |
| 21:53.22 | purl | ACTION cries and sobs until she nearly drowns in her own tears. |
| 21:53.23 | cbreak | and I bet it won't |
| 21:53.33 | cbreak | it has custom maps though |
| 21:53.52 | Dagmar | The first being the kind of performance hit you take from having no sane way to cache compiled regexps. The second one being from having to write a bunch of crap to filter out stupid regexps set by users. |
| 21:53.54 | DJJeff | SC2 Custom Maps > SC2 Single Player |
| 21:54.29 | Dagmar | That performance hit was significant when you're dealing with >1000 hostmasks and in a channel with about 200 people in it all the time |
| 21:54.30 | foxlit | DJJeff: we disagree |
| 21:54.35 | cbreak | I found the campaign rather great |
| 21:54.42 | cbreak | and all custom maps I saw so far sucked. |
| 21:54.47 | foxlit | The quality of the single player campaign wipes the floor with ANYTHING in the custom game section so far. |
| 21:54.48 | DJJeff | foxlit: SC2 Style DotA ? |
| 21:55.21 | DJJeff | people like Hereos of Newerth > Leauge of Legends |
| 21:55.31 | Dagmar | Right... solution for mouthy warrior is now "You go spend an hour poking at Female Dwarf and then come back and tell me I should regem for agility" |
| 21:55.43 | cralor | ~seen purl |
| 21:55.44 | purl | purl is currently on #casualti (56m 13s) #botpark (56m 13s) #linuxfund (56m 13s) #waruidev (56m 13s) #how (56m 13s) #sc2mapster (56m 13s) #edev (56m 13s) #fossfund (56m 13s) #hosernet (56m 13s) #norganna (56m 13s) #ud (56m 13s) ##ducleague (56m 13s) ##kierra (56m 13s) #dub (56m 13s) #teleconf (56m 13s) #openezx (56m 13s) #familysearch (56m 13s) #pegasos.org (56m 13s) #saygus (56m ... |
| 21:55.59 | DJJeff | lol @ #familysearch |
| 21:56.01 | DJJeff | help |
| 21:56.03 | DJJeff | I lost my mommy |
| 21:56.10 | DJJeff | purl find my mommy |
| 21:56.31 | cralor | oh it PMs |
| 21:56.35 | DJJeff | yes |
| 21:56.39 | Kraps | fails to see the humor |
| 21:56.49 | DJJeff | [2:56:08p] <purl> Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 21:57.09 | DJJeff | waits...... |
| 21:57.10 | cbreak | purl is related with debian? |
| 21:57.14 | DJJeff | yes |
| 21:57.15 | the-golem | I would have imagined it as a geneology channel |
| 21:57.17 | the-golem | hides. |
| 21:57.33 | DJJeff | ubuntu = Debian + Gnome |
| 21:57.36 | cbreak | is that related with geology? |
| 21:57.52 | cbreak | debian is old and stable |
| 21:58.01 | Dagmar | Ubuntu actually cares if your shit works out of the box. |
| 21:58.07 | cbreak | so stable that their OpenSSL random number generator always gives the same rando numbers ;) |
| 21:58.10 | DJJeff | yes |
| 21:58.24 | DJJeff | I want CentOS.... RHEL 5.5 |
| 21:58.32 | Dagmar | You are dead to me. |
| 21:58.41 | DJJeff | you dont like CentOS ? |
| 21:59.01 | DJJeff | Ubuntu > CentOS ? |
| 21:59.03 | Dagmar | In much the same sense that I'm not a fan of leeches for medicinal purposes. |
| 21:59.18 | foxlit | ~botsnack |
| 21:59.18 | purl | foxlit: aw, gee |
| 21:59.26 | Dagmar | ...or of trying to drive a car with a hand crank. |
| 21:59.41 | Kraps | Dagmar: leeches are such a lost art |
| 21:59.44 | DJJeff | I prefer STICK SHIFT > AUTOMATIC |
| 21:59.55 | DJJeff | Ubuntu = Automatic |
| 22:00.00 | cbreak | I prefer having a driver |
| 22:00.17 | DJJeff | not an Asian X_X |
| 22:00.41 | cbreak | don't care, as long as I can read while driving |
| 22:00.49 | DJJeff | talk on cell phone? |
| 22:00.54 | DJJeff | do you're hair |
| 22:01.11 | DJJeff | chat with girlfriend |
| 22:01.12 | cbreak | I am not hair. |
| 22:01.13 | foxlit | *your |
| 22:01.24 | Kraps | lols |
| 22:01.24 | DJJeff | *your |
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| 22:02.31 | Dagmar | Looks like it's time to complain to Blizzard that their account verification docx file doesn't work |
| 22:02.33 | DJJeff | hands free cell phone is nice |
| 22:02.38 | Dagmar | ...or maybe I'll just forward it to hacks@ |
| 22:02.58 | DJJeff | time to complain to blizzard I dont wanna pay $25 to move toon |
| 22:03.16 | DJJeff | to a FAIL SERVER |
| 22:03.28 | DJJeff | w/ TROLLS+DRAMA |
| 22:03.41 | Dagmar | The problem with this docx file is that it's entirely too easy for me to tell where the thing is trying to send the information I enter. |
| 22:03.48 | DJJeff | I paid blizzrd $200 over 2 months |
| 22:03.54 | DJJeff | spits on blizzard |
| 22:03.54 | Dagmar | At this rate I'm going to have to request another 10,000 fake names before the month is up |
| 22:04.21 | Kraps | DJJeff: what kind of gun was blizzard using? |
| 22:04.25 | DJJeff | 5998 GS and not "KINGSLAYER" |
| 22:04.46 | DJJeff | SC2 > WoW |
| 22:05.12 | DJJeff | SC2 ? WOW: CATA |
| 22:05.16 | Dagmar | THat's because getting Kingslayer requires more than just 24 other people who've pounded the pinatas until their GS is high |
| 22:05.16 | foxlit | DJJeff: link 2.5k achievement point profile or else... |
| 22:05.31 | foxlit | Dagmar: 9. |
| 22:05.37 | foxlit | It requires 9. |
| 22:05.46 | Dagmar | I don't see as many clueless GS-fiends in 10-mans. |
| 22:05.53 | foxlit | And, with the 30% buff, I'd say you could get away with 8. |
| 22:05.54 | Dagmar | Seems to be mostly coming from zerg guilds |
| 22:06.07 | Fisker | foxlit is a huge jerk |
| 22:06.08 | Dagmar | God how I love that 30% buff |
| 22:06.19 | Fisker | just like dagmar |
| 22:06.24 | Dagmar | I had a freaking Kill Shot pop for over 32k last weekend |
| 22:06.30 | foxlit | /hate! |
| 22:06.51 | foxlit | I get to heal sorry asses taking avoidable damage. Whoo! |
| 22:07.05 | foxlit | And then they manage to die. Honestly. |
| 22:07.14 | Dagmar | foxlit: You'd love some of my screenshots from the last ICC run. |
| 22:07.28 | Dagmar | Recount shows me at the bottom of the damage taken list, all the way through. |
| 22:07.35 | Kraps | Dagmar: you're such a casual |
| 22:07.45 | Kraps | ruining the GAME |
| 22:07.46 | Dagmar | I haz instinks for self preservations! |
| 22:08.56 | foxlit | is going to be sorry in six hours :( |
| 22:09.18 | DJJeff | foxlit: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-achievements.xml?r=Silver+Hand&cn=Canadianjeff&gn=Invisible+Pink+Unicorns |
| 22:09.28 | foxlit | DJJeff: SC2 profile, kthx |
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| 22:09.31 | DJJeff | 5625 POINTS |
| 22:09.49 | DJJeff | I bought SC2 last week |
| 22:09.52 | DJJeff | I am still new |
| 22:09.57 | foxlit | WoW points are subject to inflation. 7.5k or else! :) |
| 22:10.07 | DJJeff | I was in Beta SC2 :) |
| 22:10.11 | foxlit | </arbitrary standards> |
| 22:10.56 | Dagmar | foxlit: I had >17k up to Marrogar last week. Does that count? |
| 22:11.26 | Shirik | Kraps! I got to use [[Special:Nuke]] for the first time ever yesterday |
| 22:11.39 | Kraps | yay? |
| 22:11.45 | Kraps | never seen that |
| 22:12.07 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:12.07 | Shirik | Deletes all pages created by someone |
| 22:12.22 | Fisker | damn swype can't shirik |
| 22:12.42 | foxlit | wonders how Wikipedia handles Special: in article titles |
| 22:12.52 | Fisker | how does that feel? |
| 22:13.04 | Shirik | foxlit: Hope and pray? :) |
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| 22:13.20 | inviso | I'm looking for a profiling app of some sort so I can track down performance problems in an addon on beta. LUAProfiler and KLHPerformanceMonitor haven't been updated in several years. Are they still relevant? |
| 22:13.20 | Shirik | (that it never happens) |
| 22:13.27 | Fisker | shirik |
| 22:13.45 | Fisker | try and stop me |
| 22:13.48 | Shirik | inviso: It's not like performance tracking system has changed |
| 22:13.58 | Shirik | there's no reason for them to be updated, really |
| 22:14.27 | foxlit | the "zomg your addons are sloooow" times are gone, too |
| 22:14.39 | inviso | kk, good to know. Any thoughts on which one might work best for tracking down performance problems in an existing addon? |
| 22:14.42 | DJJeff | I have 95 ADDONS |
| 22:14.43 | DJJeff | yes |
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| 22:14.47 | DJJeff | no SLOW |
| 22:14.53 | inviso | foxlit: What do you mean by that? |
| 22:15.10 | DJJeff | 50 FPS in RAIDs on HIGH GFX |
| 22:15.35 | DJJeff | loves computer :) |
| 22:15.37 | foxlit | I'm implying that there are historical reasons for the existence of those performance tracking addons |
| 22:16.00 | foxlit | which went away about when 3.0 shipped with it's public threat tables. |
| 22:16.22 | DJJeff | is there a BROKER Perfomance addon.... shows FPS, PING, ADDON MEM? |
| 22:16.29 | inviso | haha, quiet dig at a certain threat tool? ;) |
| 22:16.45 | Fisker | I can't be stoped |
| 22:16.52 | foxlit | s/'// |
| 22:16.57 | Dagmar | DJjeff: Yes. |
| 22:17.09 | DJJeff | Fubar_PerformanceFu outta date |
| 22:17.29 | foxlit | If you suspect some block is particularly slow, you can wrap it in |
| 22:17.31 | Dagmar | Looks like you'll just have to start cutting then. |
| 22:17.39 | foxlit | debugprofilestart(); ... print(debugprofilestop()) |
| 22:17.44 | DJJeff | also FuBar_CurrencyFu outta date |
| 22:18.02 | foxlit | which would output how long it takes to execute. There's more general CPU tracking API, but meh, not used very often. |
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| 22:18.56 | inviso | That will definitely be useful when I get closer to the actual problem. Thanks |
| 22:18.59 | cralor | GetLeft() is the "get Y coordinate" function, right? |
| 22:19.12 | foxlit | Why would left be Y? :) |
| 22:19.19 | cralor | errr |
| 22:19.24 | cralor | I mean GetBottom |
| 22:19.47 | cralor | had my two functions backwards. |
| 22:20.22 | cralor | GetBottom(), that it? |
| 22:21.08 | foxlit | Yes, that should return the Y coordinate of the bottom edge of the region |
| 22:21.15 | cralor | In other words, my goal is to keep the current Y value. Only use SetPoint for it's X change. |
| 22:21.35 | cralor | Would GetBottom() be a viable use for the constant Y value? |
| 22:22.55 | DJJeff | Dagmar: do you know name of BROKER addons? |
| 22:23.04 | DJJeff | for Currency and Perfmance |
| 22:23.17 | DJJeff | like FuBar |
| 22:23.30 | DJJeff | I have Curse Client open |
| 22:24.42 | inviso | So, both KLHPerformanceMonitor and LuaProfiler are horribly broken. Any other thoughts? |
| 22:25.35 | DJJeff | broker_simplecurrency is ok? |
| 22:25.48 | DJJeff | 1 year old |
| 22:26.00 | DJJeff | need to check WoWInterface |
| 22:26.44 | Dagmar | Do I look like a search engine to you? |
| 22:26.49 | DJJeff | no |
| 22:27.00 | DJJeff | you dont use BROKER addons? |
| 22:27.03 | Dagmar | Every addon site has a search box. Some of them even break things down into groups by what suite they go with. |
| 22:27.21 | DJJeff | I wanna know whats good :) |
| 22:27.25 | DJJeff | and whats bad |
| 22:27.40 | Dagmar | Everything sucks. Eating a bullet looks like a good option right about now. |
| 22:27.42 | DJJeff | no screenshots = X_X |
| 22:27.48 | Yssaril | try it out its good if you like it and does what you want otherwise its bad :P |
| 22:28.36 | DJJeff | I like Screenshots |
| 22:28.37 | Dagmar | ...and for the record I'm using DockingStation |
| 22:28.42 | DJJeff | ok |
| 22:29.10 | DJJeff | zBrokerPerformance 2 years old |
| 22:29.23 | DJJeff | older then FuBar |
| 22:30.02 | foxlit | cralor: Would GetBottom() be a viable use for the constant Y value? << I don't remember where wow's origin point is :( |
| 22:31.38 | foxlit | You really should try something like f:SetPoint("BOTTOMLEFT", 20, f:GetBottom()); |
| 22:31.38 | cralor | because I am trying to implement Padding for the DK Runes. they move correctly X wise, but the 5 that actually move get sucked up to the very top of the screen. like the Y value is being increased to the max |
| 22:32.13 | cralor | alright, will do |
| 22:32.34 | *** part/#wowuidev Warloco (~theunknow@abarelds.xs4all.nl) |
| 22:35.31 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/140400 |
| 22:37.06 | SqueeG | can't fucking win |
| 22:37.13 | SqueeG | shakes fist at sky |
| 22:37.19 | SqueeG | his* |
| 22:37.20 | SqueeG | ah well :p |
| 22:37.48 | foxlit | Whenever I get to a 4/5 win streak, the matchmaker decides that was enough winning for this round. |
| 22:38.06 | SqueeG | lol |
| 22:38.21 | cralor | foxlit: here is my functions http://pastey.net/140401 ... not functioning like they should. Horizontal function 5 of the runes (everything but the origin) are pushed to the top of the screen, and Vertical spreads them out to the far right :S |
| 22:39.26 | foxlit | The problem is with what you're doing, though. |
| 22:40.09 | foxlit | cralor: http://pastey.net/140402-494w:140401-42bf |
| 22:42.08 | foxlit | You were saying "Okay, anchor the BOTTOMLEFT corner of the rune at a (x, y) offset from the BOTTOMRIGHT corner of the previous rune.", where y = rune:GetBottom() >> 0, which pushes it up. |
| 22:46.58 | Torhal | DJJeff: Maybe try BROKER_Currency? |
| 22:47.00 | Torhal | cackles. |
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| 22:53.48 | Fisker | shirik |
| 22:54.06 | Fisker | I will eja |
| 22:54.13 | Fisker | fail |
| 22:54.47 | cralor | Thanks, foxlit |
| 22:55.21 | Kraps | Fisker: so you're really waiting for DNF? |
| 22:56.12 | Kraps | because i have a question |
| 22:57.19 | Kraps | pokes Fisker |
| 22:57.49 | Thunder_Child | successful troll is successful |
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| 22:58.40 | Kraps | who? |
| 22:58.50 | Thunder_Child | Fisker |
| 22:59.09 | Kraps | this is a real question |
| 22:59.27 | Thunder_Child | i meant /from/ him |
| 22:59.43 | Kraps | was DNF on pre-order back in the day? |
| 23:01.11 | Thunder_Child | dunno |
| 23:04.29 | Kraps | Broussard shot back that "Take-Two needs to STFU ..." |
| 23:04.33 | Kraps | lul |
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| 23:18.20 | DesertDwarf | Anybody know if Tiker (GoGoMount author) hangs out in IRC? |
| 23:21.01 | Arrowmaster | ~seen Tiker |
| 23:21.05 | purl | Arrowmaster: i haven't seen 'tiker' |
| 23:21.09 | Arrowmaster | DesertDwarf: no |
| 23:21.35 | Arrowmaster | most authors dont |
| 23:25.06 | cbreak | I guess most authors don't know what IRC is. |
| 23:25.21 | SqueeG | =p wouldn't surprise me |
| 23:27.49 | Arrowmaster | most people dont know what IRC is |
| 23:28.08 | Arrowmaster | do we need to link the numb3rs scene again |
| 23:29.39 | SqueeG | O_o |
| 23:30.44 | WyriHaximus | Arrowmaster, yes please |
| 23:31.02 | Arrowmaster | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQ |
| 23:33.14 | SqueeG | rofl |
| 23:33.21 | SqueeG | primitive chat program! =o |
| 23:33.32 | SqueeG | why? because it doesn't huz pretty pickers? |
| 23:33.33 | DesertDwarf | Oh wow. I used to watch that show, but hadn't seen that episode. Too funny. |
| 23:34.08 | DesertDwarf | Heh...like this comment: They're making a big deal out of her understanding leet...WHEN THE TITLE OF THE SHOW SHE IS ON REPLACED AN E WITH A 3. |
| 23:34.19 | SqueeG | ZOMG |
| 23:34.26 | SqueeG | LETTER/NUMBER REPLACEMENT! |
| 23:34.41 | SqueeG | tips over, obviously overwhelmed |
| 23:35.15 | WyriHaximus | rofl she reads leetspeak, I knows very complicated math and computer programming languages but she's to dumb to write a plugin that automaticly translates leetspeak into 'normal' speak?" |
| 23:35.36 | WyriHaximus | ffs I'm getting drunk here thats the first thing coming to my mind when nimrod is writing those episodes? |
| 23:35.57 | DesertDwarf | They didn't have time for her to write the plugin...the hacker couldn't been on any minute. Hurry! Hurry! |
| 23:36.10 | WyriHaximus | true good point |
| 23:36.37 | WyriHaximus | still since she knows it why didn't she write one before? xD |
| 23:36.52 | DesertDwarf | Yeah. |
| 23:37.18 | WyriHaximus | still it's better then the CSI hey lets write a VB app for that |
| 23:37.26 | DesertDwarf | I love the part where she had to get a screenshot before disconnect because, what, the window would close automatically? Doesn't that mean the FBIs systems were being hacked? |
| 23:38.35 | WyriHaximus | yeah pretty much and what about logs? every time they are in that FBI office there are random racks with Dells isn't atleast 1 rack a file server or a log server? |
| 23:39.30 | DesertDwarf | Nope. Can't log stuff cuz then the freedom of information act will force them to turn over thousands of self-incriminating (I did *NOT* visit those porn sites at work) logs. |
| 23:39.41 | Arrowmaster | the worst part is how they give a semi decent explanation with the boats and needing to catch them in the act but then somehow manage to do the equivalent of watching the entire ocean to see when two boats meet without any effort |
| 23:39.59 | SqueeG | everyone has their own dialect of leetspeak |
| 23:40.30 | WyriHaximus | SqueeG, I prefer OpenSSL keys |
| 23:40.42 | Arrowmaster | PGP |
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| 23:41.14 | WyriHaximus | or PGP yeah heck any kind of decent encryption over leetspeak |
| 23:42.08 | WyriHaximus | ow crap gtg the wife is waking up |
| 23:42.24 | Arrowmaster | back when i used mIRC i had multiple encryption scripts loaded up because assholes in different channels liked to play around with them at times |
| 23:43.11 | DesertDwarf | Liking this page. It's handy. http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Cataclysm_AddOn_status |
| 23:44.44 | Kraps | numb3rs is pretty good though |
| 23:46.27 | Arrowmaster | vendorbait not listed on that page? who the fuck is in the beta that doesnt use vendorbait? |
| 23:48.47 | DesertDwarf | I haven't tried it, yet, on Cat. *Blushes* |
| 23:49.31 | Kraps | whats vendorbait? |
| 23:49.36 | DesertDwarf | lol |
| 23:49.42 | Arrowmaster | http://github.com/tekkub/vendorbait |
| 23:50.04 | DesertDwarf | ...and here: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7121-VendorBait.html |
| 23:50.13 | Kraps | cool |
| 23:50.23 | Jerub | so what's this i hear about cataclysm making all my T10 gear irrelevent by level 84 :( |
| 23:50.34 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:50.39 | Kandoko | heck 82-83 if it aint heroic |
| 23:51.14 | Jerub | is there a ilvl-toonlvl graph? |
| 23:52.45 | Kraps | I am an IRC User, and I am on a boat. *Old Spic Whistle Sound* |
| 23:53.23 | DesertDwarf | Doesn't spic have a bad connotation? |
| 23:53.54 | Jerub | DesertDwarf: yeah, it's a racial slur of some kind. |
| 23:53.55 | Arrowmaster | Kraps: nice boat |
| 23:53.57 | Jerub | forgets which |
| 23:54.09 | Arrowmaster | mexican |
| 23:54.33 | Kraps | DesertDwarf: the guy i copied that from sucks |
| 23:55.54 | Arrowmaster | didnt i already point out before that this Ferous Media addon is a direct copy of Shared Media's code and makes the two incompatible if used together? http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info17853-FerousMediaCATACLYSM.html |
| 23:55.56 | DesertDwarf | hopes he's on the right boat. |
| 23:56.03 | Arrowmaster | why is it still on wowi |
| 23:56.27 | Kraps | DesertDwarf: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avaSdC0QOUM&ob=av3e |
| 23:58.30 | Jerub | i thougth spic was european. |
| 23:58.45 | DesertDwarf | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spic |
| 23:58.46 | Jerub | oh, it's an abbreviation of hispanic. |
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