| 00:03.36 | Dagmar | Okay Kraps, I've redownloaded their launche |
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| 00:04.02 | Dagmar | I suppose it'll be ready by midnight or so. |
| 00:04.47 | Dagmar | You understand, of course, that if they've not made a lot of needed improvements, this will probably be the last time I take anything by Cryptic or NCSoft seriously |
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| 00:12.07 | Kraps | you're in luck, i was reading in chat that they fixed another quest today :p |
| 00:15.40 | Kraps | Dagmar: guild wars is pretty serious |
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| 00:16.06 | Xyphoid | ha ha ha the guy who developeed www.hackiswack.com is in ##php asking for security help |
| 00:16.58 | Dagmar | THe site will get pwned with an embedded flash audio file soon enough. |
| 00:17.56 | Kraps | 2 tickets to a snoop concert? |
| 00:18.00 | Kraps | srsly |
| 00:18.09 | Xyphoid | butbut you get to meet snoop's agent |
| 00:18.16 | Xyphoid | if he has time for you |
| 00:19.56 | Cide | the question is |
| 00:20.00 | Cide | why are you in ##php |
| 00:21.36 | Xyphoid | i'm not cool enough for the ruby channel |
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| 00:23.31 | krevlorn | hello addon devs! |
| 00:27.23 | krevlorn | peeps must be chillin in the new zones :P |
| 00:27.38 | rljohn | uldum is pretty fantastic |
| 00:28.08 | krevlorn | havent been there yet |
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| 00:28.44 | p3lim^ | going crazy over dropdown boxes, are they bugged or something? |
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| 00:30.41 | krevlorn | my code is driving me nuts, I can't figure out what's wrong |
| 00:31.23 | kd3 | ooh, that's new |
| 00:31.33 | kd3 | "You have been disconnected from the chat server and may be unable to send further messages." |
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| 00:31.41 | kd3 | right before the server restart booted me off |
| 00:31.44 | krevlorn | in game? |
| 00:31.48 | kd3 | yes |
| 00:31.53 | krevlorn | strange |
| 00:32.22 | p3lim^ | reset or maintenance? |
| 00:32.31 | p3lim^ | nvm, gotta hit the sack now anyways |
| 00:35.04 | Adys | US guys: has futurama aired yet? |
| 00:35.51 | Humbedooh | as in today or this year? :p |
| 00:35.54 | Adys | today |
| 00:37.24 | Humbedooh | not yet |
| 00:37.39 | Adys | wtf |
| 00:37.41 | Humbedooh | "The Mutants Are Revolting" (#6.12) |
| 00:37.41 | Humbedooh | 10:00 PM - 10:30 PM |
| 00:37.41 | Humbedooh | Leela leads an army of underground mutants in a rebellion against the surface people. |
| 00:37.46 | Adys | oh 10pm |
| 00:38.09 | kd3 | it's 2037 right now |
| 00:38.17 | kd3 | another 90m or so |
| 00:38.24 | Adys | yeha i thought futurama aired at like 5pm or something |
| 00:38.37 | Humbedooh | pft |
| 00:38.41 | Humbedooh | fans are asleep at 5pm |
| 00:38.42 | kd3 | we'd all still be at work |
| 00:38.49 | Adys | who needs jobs |
| 00:40.55 | Humbedooh | apple does! |
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| 00:57.47 | Kraps | Humbedooh: clever |
| 00:58.53 | Kraps | "classical wow" |
| 01:00.35 | Wobin | argh |
| 01:00.44 | Wobin | I totally intended to turn on my pc this morning |
| 01:00.47 | Wobin | to download the patch |
| 01:00.51 | Wobin | but forgot |
| 01:01.36 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5628862/px-commanding-general--explains-global-ban-on-medal-of-honor-game |
| 01:02.14 | Kraps | it wont be sold in military stores |
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| 01:05.25 | kd3 | ugh |
| 01:05.29 | kd3 | "The Element of Supplies" |
| 01:06.08 | Kraps | hey Fisker |
| 01:07.21 | Humbedooh | the fisker sleeps |
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| 01:08.27 | Kraps | i have this for him http://kotaku.com/5628837/will-duke-nukem-forever-come-out-to-play-at-pax |
| 01:13.36 | Kraps | http://pc-mmo.nowgamer.com/competition do they mean county or country? |
| 01:26.14 | Shirik | I love this |
| 01:26.34 | Shirik | UPS ground: Shipped/Billed On:09/02/2010 Scheduled Delivery Date:09/03/2010 |
| 01:31.35 | Dagmar | Shipping a rather short distance? |
| 01:31.48 | Shirik | yeah |
| 01:32.01 | Shirik | basically it's "I'm too lazy to drive to Orlando" (1 hour away) |
| 01:32.09 | Dagmar | I'm still trying to figure out how three day shipping is a week in Canadian time |
| 01:32.11 | Shirik | plus the company gives me discounts for ordering online |
| 01:33.17 | Dagmar | Discounts are nice. I guess it makes up for having to pay that pesky sales tax in-state |
| 01:33.20 | batrick | mannn it's so refreshing looking back at good old xkcd comics: http://xkcd.com/553/ |
| 01:34.22 | Shirik | Dagmar: I just don't get why they don't give me the discounts in-store |
| 01:34.41 | Shirik | like it's sort of a "rewards program" |
| 01:34.42 | Dagmar | What do they sell? |
| 01:34.50 | Shirik | you buy more and get % off as you reach certain brackets |
| 01:34.58 | Shirik | it's a game store |
| 01:35.01 | Shirik | TCGs, etc. |
| 01:35.05 | Dagmar | Ah... they're looking to grow their online sales is why |
| 01:35.16 | Dagmar | A card pusher? |
| 01:35.41 | Dagmar | It keeps card buyers out of the store. l) |
| 01:35.44 | Shirik | what do you mean? |
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| 01:35.51 | batrick | hi shirik! |
| 01:35.53 | Dagmar | Sarcasm. |
| 01:35.56 | Shirik | hi batrick |
| 01:35.58 | Shirik | oh |
| 01:36.07 | Dagmar | Like record store operators are called "vinyl pushers" by DJs |
| 01:36.30 | Shirik | ah |
| 01:36.32 | Shirik | never heard of that |
| 01:37.10 | Dagmar | It's not like there's much actual "pushing" where DJs are involved. Mainly you just have to wave the shiny new ones around where they can see them |
| 01:37.29 | Dagmar | "DJ Spooky remixes? GIMME!" |
| 01:38.00 | Kraps | Dagmar: everything is bigger in Canada? |
| 01:38.17 | Dagmar | Well, Labor Day is probably part of the problem |
| 01:39.08 | Dagmar | Jesus an 8" square CMOS sensor? |
| 01:39.22 | Dagmar | Won't that double as a hobby telescope by just pointing it at the sky? |
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| 01:50.03 | _Kraps_ | heh |
| 01:50.15 | _Kraps_ | dur? |
| 01:50.41 | Dagmar | Well, they;'re talking about it being able to catch 60fps at half the brightness of moonlight |
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| 01:56.03 | Kraps | i dont even http://store.steampowered.com/app/41210 |
| 01:58.51 | Motig | looks pretty neat |
| 01:59.27 | Motig | Integrated LUA Scripting allowing for enormous modding potential, to allow for additional user generated content |
| 02:00.01 | Corrodias2 | integrated visual basic |
| 02:00.13 | Corrodias2 | innovative touch-tone phone interface |
| 02:00.28 | Corrodias2 | artistic 3 color palette |
| 02:00.58 | Humbedooh | :s |
| 02:01.13 | Humbedooh | sounds like crazy future talk! |
| 02:22.19 | Arrowmaster | ran out of cheese and i cant make a normal sandwich without cheese so im eating something strange |
| 02:23.59 | Kraps | holy crap this is psychedelic awesomeness! http://store.steampowered.com/app/49600/ |
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| 02:24.50 | Arrowmaster | that game is on XBLA too except i dont think i would buy it on XBLA because i dont have any music on my xbox |
| 02:25.41 | Kraps | it doesnt work as well for downbeat songs |
| 02:25.48 | Kraps | but otherwise... |
| 02:26.54 | Arrowmaster | ive played the demo and it was cool |
| 02:28.06 | Kraps | i did just now as well |
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| 02:44.44 | bleeter | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XzdZ4KcI8Y |
| 02:44.49 | A-KO | wow nobody watches I am MT |
| 02:44.49 | A-KO | wtf |
| 02:44.51 | A-KO | it's so funny |
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| 02:58.07 | Kraps | Arrowmaster: do you have audiosurf? |
| 02:58.12 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 02:59.46 | Arrowmaster | ah Eufloria just crashed on me |
| 03:07.16 | Arrowmaster | i think it crashed again |
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| 03:07.28 | Arrowmaster | doesnt run so well under wine |
| 03:09.39 | Kraps | its an odd game |
| 03:10.09 | Iriel | Which? Eufloria? I kinda like it |
| 03:10.26 | Jamash | oh no wonder nobody was talking, I was in the wrong channel |
| 03:10.34 | Jamash | HI GUISE IM IN SEATTLE FOR PAX WOO |
| 03:10.37 | Iriel | though I prefered the old name a little |
| 03:10.44 | NightHawkTheSane | hi Jamash, welcome to seattle. |
| 03:10.58 | Iriel | Jamash: try not to get pig flu |
| 03:11.09 | Jamash | soon I will commence crushing it beneath my monstrous claws and/or sandalled feet |
| 03:11.23 | NightHawkTheSane | careful not to step in the hipster. |
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| 03:27.20 | Kraps | Arrowmaster: tried the audiosurf demo, not feeling it |
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| 03:44.06 | Ycarene | Is there a decent mod I can use to make an announcement macro? |
| 03:47.04 | PProvost | Announcement? |
| 03:47.17 | Humbedooh | like a /rw ? |
| 03:47.41 | Humbedooh | or you want it to tie into facebook? ;\ |
| 03:47.43 | PProvost | Or like "I'm casting this spell?" |
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| 04:16.32 | Ycarene | More like being able to macro something that's more that 256 chars long. |
| 04:17.09 | Ycarene | to send to something like party chat |
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| 04:21.49 | tem | wtb horde guild invite on lost istles |
| 04:22.16 | tem | isles* |
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| 04:23.20 | Iriel | There's a horde guild? |
| 04:23.45 | tem | Lewd on Demand, no? |
| 04:23.48 | Jamash | uhj |
| 04:24.01 | Jamash | yeah I still haven't gotten five sigs since the last reset |
| 04:24.14 | |Jelly| | I've yet to see a horde guild nor has anyone ever been online when I've asked in here. |
| 04:24.14 | Jamash | I could get on right now if anyone wants in |
| 04:24.16 | tem | blarg |
| 04:24.19 | Jamash | my bad |
| 04:24.39 | |Jelly| | I can log on pretty quickly, depending where I need to be. |
| 04:25.13 | Iriel | I'm on now |
| 04:25.17 | Iriel | In org |
| 04:25.20 | Jamash | let's see if this airport wifi is up to cataclysm |
| 04:25.22 | |Jelly| | logging on |
| 04:27.23 | Jamash | k I'm on Jamash, hearthing now |
| 04:27.25 | |Jelly| | OMW to Org -- Jelleh |
| 04:27.42 | tem | I think I have a warrior in org |
| 04:28.19 | Jamash | porting to org |
| 04:28.37 | Jamash | free wifi = better airport |
| 04:28.57 | Jamash | O'Hare wants to charge $6 for one day |
| 04:29.37 | Jerub | at brisbane airport they charge an arm and a leg to use wifi |
| 04:29.46 | Jerub | but there's free wifi at the train station 300m from the airport. |
| 04:29.46 | Jamash | meet out front of garrosh's hangout? |
| 04:29.49 | Jerub | go figure. |
| 04:30.20 | Jamash | he |
| 04:30.23 | Jamash | h |
| 04:30.23 | |Jelly| | look at all these 'unknowns' |
| 04:30.31 | |Jelly| | and crash |
| 04:30.36 | KarlKFI | http://www.sc2replayed.com/replays/70843-1v1-protoss-metalopolis |
| 04:31.03 | Iriel | Jamash: invite me, since you ignored my group invite 8-) |
| 04:31.33 | Jamash | I got d/ced |
| 04:31.36 | tem | he ignored mine too! |
| 04:31.41 | tem | what a meanie |
| 04:32.15 | Jamash | man everyone has a violet proto |
| 04:32.58 | Jamash | okay I got stacatto jelleh and squark |
| 04:33.24 | Jamash | need one more to turn it in |
| 04:37.41 | Iriel | Is tem == stacatto? |
| 04:37.50 | tem | yeah |
| 04:40.26 | |Jelly| | I'm going to AFK offline on beta .. if you need anything, ping me and I'll get back to you in the morning. |
| 04:42.15 | Jamash | retrieving item information......................................... |
| 04:42.59 | NightHawkTheSane | I can log in if you still need one more |
| 04:43.30 | Jamash | if you would that would be great |
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| 04:45.26 | NightHawkTheSane | <-- Basswolf, in Org. |
| 04:48.20 | Adys | NightHawkTheSane: http://www.pastethat.com/media/files/2010/09/02/bitch.png |
| 04:48.50 | Wobin | Adys: shopped =P |
| 04:48.52 | NightHawkTheSane | why are you pinging me with that? |
| 04:48.58 | Adys | Wobin, isnt |
| 04:49.07 | Adys | I got the page open right here |
| 04:49.13 | Wobin | and god damn you |
| 04:49.17 | Adys | NightHawkTheSane: i needed to ping someone |
| 04:49.18 | Wobin | I kept trying to change tabs |
| 04:49.28 | NightHawkTheSane | ... i.. er.. fair enough |
| 04:49.29 | Wobin | stupid screenshots |
| 04:49.48 | Wobin | I thought my vertical tabs had bugged out =P |
| 04:49.56 | Adys | lol |
| 04:49.56 | Wobin | then I realised I didn't actually have that many tabs open |
| 04:50.06 | Wobin | ps, you should use vertical tabs =P |
| 04:50.17 | Adys | i'd love to |
| 04:50.22 | Adys | but i need to restart the browser for that |
| 04:50.28 | Adys | it hasnt been restarted in like... 3 weeks? |
| 04:50.29 | Wobin | hahah |
| 04:50.32 | Adys | (suck it, firefox) |
| 04:50.41 | Wobin | inorite? |
| 04:50.55 | Adys | i remember back when keeping firefox open for more than 2 weeks was like keeping windows open for more than 3 years |
| 04:51.19 | NightHawkTheSane | Adys: er, so restart the browser? it'll remember your tabs, yeah? |
| 04:51.31 | Adys | yes |
| 04:51.38 | Adys | but that would restart two youtube videos |
| 04:51.42 | Adys | and i cba to stop them |
| 04:51.49 | NightHawkTheSane | meh |
| 04:52.05 | Jamash | WHERE IS GUILD MASTER IN CATA |
| 04:52.22 | Adys | NEAR MARKINS WIFE |
| 04:52.41 | Jamash | LOL |
| 04:52.49 | Jerub | Mankirk. |
| 04:52.52 | Jamash | I think Garrosh had them executed :-/ |
| 04:53.17 | Stanzilla | manrik? |
| 04:53.47 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, does dominos work in cata? >.> |
| 04:55.15 | Jamash | dominos pizza? |
| 04:55.28 | Jamash | okay Lewd On Demand is back up and running |
| 04:55.38 | amro | that sounds illegal |
| 04:58.51 | Thunder_Child | http://code.google.com/edu/ |
| 04:59.30 | Wobin | Adys: <furgin> woot 100 points |
| 04:59.30 | Wobin | <furgin> noise cancelling interview, people standing behind me when im playing bunnies. FTL. |
| 04:59.48 | Adys | haha |
| 05:06.01 | tem | Jamash, can you invite my shaman, please? |
| 05:06.03 | tem | Zinjah |
| 05:06.03 | NightHawkTheSane | awesome, beta keeps crashing :) |
| 05:06.19 | Jamash | okee |
| 05:07.36 | NightHawkTheSane | yarr, shoot my druid an invite please :) "Connenneute" |
| 05:08.07 | Jamash | you're lucky I have copy and paste |
| 05:08.22 | Cairenn | Keys for Tracking numbers #000565 - #000727 assigned (3 Sept) |
| 05:08.40 | tekkub | I never got an answer about the ally pve beta guild :P |
| 05:08.52 | tekkub | do I need to go make it again? |
| 05:10.44 | Iriel | When was it last wiped? |
| 05:11.02 | Iriel | Secure Hookers is still there |
| 05:11.26 | Jamash | vertical tabs? |
| 05:11.42 | NightHawkTheSane | --enable-vertical-tabs |
| 05:12.12 | Shirik | hm |
| 05:12.14 | Shirik | best card ever |
| 05:12.18 | Shirik | Lady Katrana Prestor, 5, AllyâBlack Dragon Traitor, Unique, 4 [Fire] ATK / 5 Health |
| 05:12.18 | Shirik | Traitor Hero Required |
| 05:12.18 | Shirik | (15) >>> Remove all of your cards in all zones from the game and start an Onyxia Raid. |
| 05:12.23 | NightHawkTheSane | apparently you can JUST BARELY fly from gilneas to vashj'ir |
| 05:12.47 | Jamash | Shirik: hawt |
| 05:12.54 | tekkub | damnit iriel |
| 05:12.59 | tekkub | get your ass back here |
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| 05:13.09 | Iriel | ohi |
| 05:13.43 | tekkub | you in hooker shiriel? |
| 05:13.47 | tekkub | *Hookers |
| 05:14.42 | Shirik | I was |
| 05:14.46 | Jamash | oh it's part of google chrommunism |
| 05:14.49 | Shirik | but I heard the guilds got wiped |
| 05:15.57 | Jamash | I was hating on Tab Candy when it got announced but lately I've been having more than three rows of tabs open and it sounds better than it originally did |
| 05:19.30 | Jerub | i've been on the chrome guys to improve the tabs for a /looong/ time. |
| 05:24.23 | Wobin | Jamash: it's not as fully functional as tabtree in FF |
| 05:24.29 | Wobin | but it's still pretty useful |
| 05:25.04 | Jerub | for the longest time it was totally impossible to do anything without major structural work in chrome because of the silly ui decisions they made early on. |
| 05:25.22 | Jerub | by 'silly' i mean 'hardcoded and inflexible' |
| 05:26.31 | Adys | Wobin |
| 05:26.43 | Adys | http://www.pastethat.com/media/files/2010/09/03/hellyeah.png |
| 05:27.07 | Wobin | Adys: hahaa |
| 05:27.17 | Wobin | do you hit every bell possible? |
| 05:27.39 | Adys | no |
| 05:27.47 | Adys | i try to hit many until ~400 |
| 05:27.54 | Jamash | I was looking at a video from Disgaea where an attack hit for three trillion damage |
| 05:27.57 | Adys | then i hit whatever gets me to birds fastest |
| 05:28.26 | sylvanaar | http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/epic-citadel/id388888815# |
| 05:28.39 | Jerub | i like how there's a hand you can play in mahjongg which is worth 10s of millions of points. |
| 05:28.41 | sylvanaar | the sword fighting game from the demo |
| 05:29.17 | Jamash | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iShBtnYm3B4&feature=related |
| 05:32.15 | Jamash | this is what happens when you allow damage to multiply exponentially |
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| 05:33.11 | Adys | (it's not damage) |
| 05:33.16 | Adys | oh |
| 05:33.19 | Adys | disgaea |
| 05:33.28 | Adys | i meant points in general |
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| 05:34.13 | Jamash | I'm so awesome |
| 05:34.23 | Jamash | I bought five of each heirloom when they were on the guild vendor in org |
| 05:34.36 | Jamash | on the theory that they were probably going to vanish |
| 05:34.40 | Jamash | which they did |
| 05:35.06 | Jamash | now if only I could sell them to other players |
| 05:35.32 | NightHawkTheSane | clever. |
| 05:35.38 | Adys | Dagmar: any idea why my router would stop assigning .local addresses to my devices? |
| 05:35.43 | Adys | azura.local/rubis.local so on |
| 05:36.20 | Jamash | There might be a parameter in the config for how many to hand out |
| 05:36.29 | clever | Adys: id you set the search domain to 'local' in your dns setup, it should automaticaly try it next when it fails azura alone |
| 05:36.46 | Jamash | I had a terrible problem with a router that was configured to only ever give out addresses to 6 devices |
| 05:37.02 | Adys | clever: thing is ive nfc where that's set |
| 05:37.06 | Adys | trying to look for it |
| 05:37.23 | clever | Adys: in the dns setup for either each computer, or the dhcp server |
| 05:37.28 | clever | depends on how each system gets its dns info in the first place |
| 05:39.07 | Adys | this interface is fucking terrible |
| 05:41.33 | Jamash | I love nonfunctional mailboxes |
| 05:44.58 | the-golem | Is there a vendor addon that grey's out an item for purchase if you cannot afford it? |
| 05:45.54 | Jamash | ooh smexy new glyph interface |
| 05:48.01 | Jamash | aight time to meet my sister's flight |
| 05:52.32 | Ycarene | Anyone know a good bag mod? |
| 05:53.47 | tem | combuctor |
| 05:54.41 | amro | damn, Jamash quit before I could riff on that |
| 05:55.15 | Adys | Ycarene: bagnon |
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| 06:00.57 | amro | anyone know if it's possible to implement operators for javascript objects? |
| 06:01.33 | unfo-ninja | my gut says no, but i am not a 100% |
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| 06:03.59 | Fisker | i'm tired amro |
| 06:04.00 | Fisker | halp |
| 06:04.37 | amro | Fisker: call in sick and go to sleep |
| 06:08.37 | Fisker | no |
| 06:08.47 | Fisker | i would rather kill a goat |
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| 07:00.13 | Adys | Wobin |
| 07:01.08 | Adys | http://www.pastethat.com/media/files/2010/09/03/sup.png |
| 07:01.28 | Wobin | how long are these games going? =P |
| 07:01.53 | Trela | How long did it take to fall afterwards? :P |
| 07:02.11 | Adys | Wobin: not that long really |
| 07:02.13 | Adys | maybe 10 mins |
| 07:03.44 | zenzio | "The current version of the standardâOAuth 1.0aâis an inelegant hack that lacks maturity and fails to provide clear guidance on many critical issues that are essential to building a robust authentication system." |
| 07:03.48 | Adys | and Trela i think it's capped |
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| 07:04.02 | zenzio | good thing we're not placing our trust in this for social networki... oh wait |
| 07:14.14 | zenzio | "In addition to those kinds of obvious business incentives, mischief makers might compromise keys just for the lulz." |
| 07:14.27 | zenzio | I was amused to see "lulz" used in an Ars article |
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| 08:16.49 | tekkub | Buffing pets: does anyone even care anymore? |
| 08:17.05 | tekkub | or should I make cork only care about party/raid? |
| 08:20.30 | Spejnar | tekkub: I care as a hunter |
| 08:21.25 | Fisker | i hate hunters |
| 08:21.30 | Spejnar | :) |
| 08:21.32 | Spejnar | me2 |
| 08:21.32 | Fisker | *buff buff buff* |
| 08:21.35 | Fisker | 5 minutes later |
| 08:21.41 | Fisker | *call pet lol* |
| 08:21.46 | Fisker | "HEY GUISE WHY WONT YOU BUFF MY PET?" |
| 08:21.47 | Spejnar | well, yeah |
| 08:21.54 | Spejnar | then buff my damn pet you slacker |
| 08:22.10 | Fisker | have it summoned when the raid gets buffed |
| 08:22.11 | Fisker | jerk |
| 08:22.18 | Zyn | no |
| 08:22.22 | Zyn | you buff the god damn pets |
| 08:23.13 | kapipi | D.E.T.A. cares too. |
| 08:23.33 | Fisker | D.E.H.T.A |
| 08:23.34 | Fisker | jerk |
| 08:24.36 | Spejnar | when I dont win dps, you can whine about my pet not being called while buffing |
| 08:24.41 | Spejnar | until then, shut up and squat |
| 08:28.59 | Warloco | 'well, if you dont buff my pet. I don't buff you' *change to affli* :) |
| 08:29.31 | Spejnar | you tell em Warloco ! |
| 08:30.06 | Warloco | I like the new felguard though |
| 08:30.29 | Warloco | was about time for a pet make-over too |
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| 08:31.23 | Spejnar | Warloco: new as in new in cata or what? |
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| 08:32.01 | Warloco | yeah |
| 08:32.18 | Spejnar | how so? |
| 08:33.26 | Warloco | you haven't heard? Felguard now has blade storm, mortal strike, and a stun separate from intercept |
| 08:33.41 | Warloco | intercept is now pursuit which is kinda gimp, but still |
| 08:33.47 | Spejnar | phuh, thought you were gonna start singing there |
| 08:34.10 | Warloco | o_o |
| 08:34.16 | Warloco | Well I almost would |
| 08:34.19 | Spejnar | havnt you heard? heard what |
| 08:34.35 | Warloco | lol |
| 08:34.40 | Spejnar | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WNrx2jq184 |
| 08:34.43 | Spejnar | ^ that |
| 08:35.06 | Spejnar | so im just happy you didnt :) |
| 08:35.32 | unfo- | ooo sounds nice! |
| 08:36.33 | Warloco | lol |
| 08:37.09 | Spejnar | ^^ |
| 08:37.19 | Spejnar | so NO, I HAVNT HEARD |
| 08:38.28 | Warloco | im still not gonna sing for you D: |
| 08:39.54 | Spejnar | DONT DO IT |
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| 09:14.46 | p3lim | any docs on the updated GetTalentTabInfo() API yet? |
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| 09:18.00 | Adys | http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2010/09/gray-matter-fully-submerge-hand-liquid-nitrogen/ |
| 09:22.21 | mitch0 | "don't try this at home!" |
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| 09:26.15 | Zyn | "dont try this at home" should be considered a challenge! |
| 09:27.54 | Vilkku | have they fixed anything in the beta? like the bugged goblin starting area quest, or the bugged quest in vashj'ir? |
| 09:28.16 | Zyn | what bugged quest :< |
| 09:28.49 | Vilkku | um |
| 09:29.08 | Vilkku | in the goblin one it's the pool party quest, where you're supposed to entertain your guests |
| 09:29.36 | Vilkku | in vashj'ir, it's a quest where you are supposed to use some kind of totem to make a "boss" appear |
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| 09:48.31 | augustl | Vilkku: lots of things were fixed in the latest build |
| 09:48.40 | augustl | such as making it possible to play at level > 20 again :) |
| 09:48.41 | Vilkku | this is after the latest build |
| 09:48.50 | augustl | there's a new build up? |
| 09:48.59 | Vilkku | the one that came wednesday? |
| 09:49.07 | augustl | yeah, that's the one I'm talking about |
| 09:49.08 | Vilkku | I was wondering if they fixed the issues without patching |
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| 10:16.09 | Vladinator | greetings! |
| 10:16.17 | zenzio | ohai |
| 10:16.23 | Vladinator | anyone familiar or heard of Astroable library? |
| 10:16.53 | Humbedooh | surely you mean astrolabe? ;> |
| 10:17.05 | zenzio | Astrolube |
| 10:17.10 | Vladinator | oh yes, indeed! |
| 10:17.27 | Humbedooh | don't know a thing about it though ;| |
| 10:17.35 | Vladinator | I am trying to expand it's data to include the new areas, but finding it a bit akward... :/ |
| 10:20.04 | Vladinator | any way to find the real continent offset for a map/zone? |
| 10:20.23 | Vladinator | I saw that the API was removed in 1.3, and there was only a relative one implemented (relative to the zone only) |
| 10:25.20 | Adys | kd3: ahahahaha |
| 10:25.28 | Adys | The on-board [nvidia] chip, with Aero enabled, runs 10 times faster than the Radeon HD 5870. Without acceleration, the Radeon HD 4870 runs just a tad slower than the 5870. But with Aero turned on, it runs nearly twice as fast. |
| 10:25.42 | Adys | up yours, "ati-has-no-issue-on-windows" guys |
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| 10:28.32 | zenzio | they had no big issues (that I encountered) last time I used them... back when 9800 Pro was still good |
| 10:28.43 | zenzio | that's the original 9800 series |
| 10:32.19 | Adys | http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/2d-windows-gdi,2539.html |
| 10:32.35 | mitch0 | I still play on a 9600 pro :P |
| 10:34.34 | mikma | stanzilla: was it you that requested ginvite? |
| 10:37.23 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/proper_use_of_the_bubble_filter_effect.jpg |
| 10:38.55 | zenzio | :-o |
| 10:43.04 | Maldivia | heh |
| 10:51.00 | Adys | From the MMOC forums: |
| 10:51.01 | Adys | "It's not latin, it's Lorum Ipsum, a placeholder text designers use" |
| 10:52.54 | Humbedooh | .... |
| 10:53.39 | Wobin | ... |
| 10:54.06 | krka | nice |
| 11:17.21 | mikma | omg what |
| 11:17.33 | mikma | they show old ironforge in new dwarf introduction! |
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| 11:18.34 | A-KO | orly |
| 11:19.52 | mitch0 | adys: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ati-2d-performance-radeon-hd-5000,2635-3.html |
| 11:19.58 | Wobin | mikma: http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/d8v6q/muslim_porn/ <-- easier to make that mormon porn |
| 11:22.23 | Wobin | also, http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/d8kom/cant_beat_tha_wait_what/ <-- why punctuation is important |
| 11:25.53 | A-KO | I still hate the stupid streaming launcher |
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| 11:26.05 | A-KO | just, the game takes much longer to load as-is, and loading assets while in-game is slower also |
| 11:26.13 | A-KO | whatever system they modified for it sucks |
| 11:26.26 | A-KO | it's almost as if they're attempting to turn WoW into a browser-based game or something |
| 11:27.02 | A-KO | for example, you now see a loading bar even to show your character(s) on the selection list |
| 11:27.06 | A-KO | whereas on live, it's instant |
| 11:31.04 | zenzio | they heard that it's all about the cloud now, so you don't actually have data files on your harddrive - all models, maps, textures, sounds and music are downloaded every time! |
| 11:31.09 | zenzio | ;) |
| 11:31.17 | A-KO | it's stupid is what iti s |
| 11:31.37 | A-KO | but that's pretty much what it is |
| 11:31.40 | zenzio | I haven't used it, so I can't say, but it sounds icky |
| 11:31.55 | A-KO | why have a 15GB game on my damn HD when you're going to take 10 years to load the data because you want to stream shit anyway? |
| 11:31.58 | zenzio | I'd like to think that they keep the data on your disk after it's downloaded |
| 11:32.13 | A-KO | I think they do, I think the problem comes in the way they rewrote the loading system to accomodate this new streaming process |
| 11:33.13 | A-KO | I see a loading bar on my character select screen, it takes easily tons longer to load into the game world. |
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| 11:47.36 | Adys | A-KO: it's patching |
| 11:47.42 | Adys | not just streaming |
| 11:47.54 | Adys | right now from what i understand the wow client isn't properly patching files |
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| 11:48.18 | Adys | so it's accessing them up to five times more often than on a live client, and patching these up to five times as well |
| 11:48.46 | zenzio | that would explain some of it |
| 11:49.16 | Adys | proper patched file saving will save most of this trouble |
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| 11:49.22 | Adys | but it will also make the wow client a lot lot larger |
| 11:49.29 | Adys | im not sure what they're trying to achieve there |
| 11:49.31 | Adys | as cool as it is |
| 11:49.40 | Adys | you always need to store the wow-update mpqs |
| 11:49.44 | zenzio | make the client larger? As in the .exe? |
| 11:49.50 | Adys | even once your files are patched |
| 11:49.53 | Adys | no, the whole folder |
| 11:50.01 | zenzio | ah, okay |
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| 11:59.55 | Kalroth | The install is already what? 13-15GB? Not like it matters that much :p |
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| 12:22.33 | Adys | Kalroth: it does |
| 12:22.53 | Adys | lets say 4 major content patches for cataclysm |
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| 12:23.18 | Adys | total patch size... 4.5gb |
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| 12:23.39 | Adys | that brings the client to 23-25gb easily on a fully patched version |
| 12:23.42 | Adys | instead of 20gb |
| 12:24.09 | Adys | thats like 25% |
| 12:24.35 | Kalroth | Adys: Sure, but there are a lot of benefits |
| 12:24.47 | Adys | like? |
| 12:25.09 | Kalroth | That's not relevant to this discussion |
| 12:25.15 | Adys | I understand |
| 12:25.17 | Adys | please be seated |
| 12:25.22 | Kalroth | sits down. |
| 12:25.31 | Kalroth | raises his hand. |
| 12:25.34 | Adys | No. |
| 12:25.41 | Kalroth | lowers his hand. |
| 12:25.42 | Adys | Raise something else. |
| 12:25.54 | Kalroth | raises his swastika flag! |
| 12:25.57 | foxlit | hands Kalroth a pitchfork. |
| 12:26.17 | Kalroth | pokes Adys with the pitchfork. |
| 12:26.25 | Adys | forks Kalroth with the swastika |
| 12:26.44 | Kalroth | So why did Blizzard implement it? Doesn't it mean more bandwidth usage too? |
| 12:27.01 | Kalroth | Is it simply because they want to make a browser plugin in the future? |
| 12:27.14 | Adys | their new system is a lot better; the patch are more portable |
| 12:27.25 | Adys | no more exe, app, part mpqs, bnet updater, what shit not |
| 12:27.35 | Adys | wow.exe is the patcher, you only have one mpq, for all platforms |
| 12:28.37 | Kalroth | But it is slower and bigger? |
| 12:28.53 | Adys | It's just as big, slower yes but only after multiple patches |
| 12:29.04 | Adys | second nice thing is, since for a lot of players the patch download will be expanded over multiple days, it lowers the patchday load on the patch files |
| 12:29.12 | Kalroth | Well it also kills torrent patches, no? |
| 12:29.18 | Adys | yes |
| 12:29.27 | Kalroth | So no more preloading |
| 12:29.32 | Adys | i think.. |
| 12:29.39 | Adys | third nice thing is |
| 12:29.44 | Adys | the wow client is effectively 15mb |
| 12:29.44 | Kalroth | You HAVE to lag in Dalaran because it is downloading shit for ages |
| 12:30.08 | Adys | if you delete absolutely everything except the exe/dlls in your wow folder |
| 12:30.14 | Adys | it automatically downloads the rest |
| 12:30.42 | Adys | makes portability easier, game corruption easy to fix |
| 12:30.43 | Adys | so on |
| 12:31.00 | foxlit | How often do those problems occur? |
| 12:31.17 | Adys | Very |
| 12:31.21 | foxlit | Strange. |
| 12:31.32 | foxlit | Subjective experience is "never" |
| 12:31.38 | Adys | so is mine |
| 12:31.49 | Adys | but people do delete files without knowing why |
| 12:32.21 | Adys | like someone would be tempted to delete backup-enUS.mpq, it's 15mb, "what would the game need that for? i have all the backups i need" |
| 12:32.28 | Adys | vlam, have to run repair.exe |
| 12:32.40 | Adys | but the client wont tell you that. youll be clueless, stuck with one option: reinstalling |
| 12:32.41 | Kalroth | yes, maybe they'll think twice then |
| 12:33.03 | Adys | with cataclysm, you login, it sees "no backup mpq? fine, downloading" |
| 12:33.20 | foxlit | Kalroth: nobody capable of thinking will delete it in the first place :) |
| 12:33.34 | Adys | anyway i do wish there was a way to prepatch the game |
| 12:33.46 | foxlit | <3 how the authenticator grace period is more like a minute. |
| 12:34.08 | Adys | a minute? |
| 12:34.11 | Adys | it's like ten minutes |
| 12:34.22 | Kalroth | yeah, my mitm hacking is much more easy with the long grace period |
| 12:35.19 | foxlit | I hesitate to call you mitm. |
| 12:36.09 | foxlit | Although, that reminds me of awesomeness: IP over Avian Carriers is susceptible to shotgun-in-the-middle attacks. |
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| 12:36.24 | |Jelly| | pounces on Peppy! |
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| 12:37.20 | Adys | dances with Budd's Vehicle Bunny. |
| 12:39.11 | |Jelly| | So I assume the horde guild didn't get remade last night? :| |
| 12:40.10 | Adys | kd3: what what what |
| 12:40.14 | Adys | shadows in opengl? |
| 12:41.51 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Jelly-darlin' |
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| 12:58.23 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:00.00 | Kraps | heh, most of the leadership of RayV is Israeli http://www.rayv.com/cms/leadership.html |
| 13:00.29 | Lopeppeppy | Jelly, look! I'm wearing skinny jeans! |
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| 13:02.48 | |Jelly| | orly? |
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| 13:04.02 | Thunder_Child | http://www.amazon.com/Man-Bait-Bacon-Maple-Lollipop/dp/B002P23I50/ |
| 13:12.10 | Kraps | http://cdn.cad-comic.com/comics/1376391875c21941rc2l5e7346283.gif |
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| 13:25.13 | alestane | hugs Peppy. Yay for being happy with yourself! |
| 13:25.27 | alestane | doesn't hug Peppy too long though, sick this week. |
| 13:25.48 | |Jelly| | hugs Peppy long enough for the .. uncomfortable feeling .. to set in! :P |
| 13:29.14 | augustl | so what's the best way to keep your IRC connection when sleeping a laptop? irssi on a server? |
| 13:30.16 | cbreak_work | your desktop computer sleeps too? |
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| 13:30.58 | augustl | desktop computer could replace server, you mean? |
| 13:31.03 | haste | augustl: I would say any terminal irc client under screen |
| 13:31.11 | haste | augustl: alternatively you could use a bouncer with backlogging |
| 13:31.25 | cbreak_work | I just never turn off my desktop |
| 13:31.33 | cbreak_work | so cbreak should always be in here |
| 13:32.09 | haste | abuses irssi-proxy running in screen. |
| 13:32.21 | augustl | some kind of middleware between any IRC client and a IRC server would have rocked. So that the next time I logged on I got the missing messages transferred to my client |
| 13:32.24 | zenzio | looks at zenzelezz |
| 13:32.25 | cbreak_work | I like having tones of windows |
| 13:32.25 | haste | I usually connect to my desktop which runs weechat in screen tho' :P |
| 13:32.29 | augustl | is that what a bouncer with backlogging does? |
| 13:32.50 | haste | augustl: bouncer with backlog will just spam you with messages since you last connected |
| 13:33.07 | haste | I have two IRC clients connected right now on haste |
| 13:33.08 | augustl | will that break timestamps? |
| 13:33.15 | haste | "yes" |
| 13:33.19 | augustl | or: is the timestamps sent from the server, or is it only a client thing? |
| 13:33.21 | haste | it sends the messages with their "real" timestamps |
| 13:33.27 | haste | timestamps are local |
| 13:33.33 | haste | so you'll get double up |
| 13:33.36 | haste | unless your client handles it |
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| 13:38.33 | augustl | haste: got a link? :) |
| 13:38.39 | augustl | to a bouncer thingie |
| 13:39.19 | haste | uhm, I'd have to look it up now |
| 13:39.26 | haste | I've been abusing irssi-proxy for years now |
| 13:39.41 | augustl | terminal GUIs brings out the worst in me |
| 13:40.39 | haste | http://bip.t1r.net/ is used by some I know |
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| 13:42.23 | haste | http://en.znc.in/wiki/ZNC is another one apparantly |
| 13:47.48 | Cidan | Does anyone know if SecurePartyHeader can no longer display pets? |
| 13:47.56 | Cidan | Do you -have- to use the pet header? |
| 13:48.39 | alestane | Well, if you use as a template for the party header a frame that includes a child for the party member's pet, the Party Header should dot he heavy lifting. |
| 13:48.47 | haste | Cidan: it has never been able to display pets directly |
| 13:49.13 | foxlit | qq @ secure stuff in beta. |
| 13:49.18 | augustl | haste: tnx |
| 13:49.24 | haste | augustl: yw |
| 13:49.27 | Cidan | I thought it could, huh. |
| 13:49.39 | alestane | Fixes should already be into Blizzard, foxlit. |
| 13:49.53 | alestane | Circular dependencies FTL. |
| 13:50.09 | haste | Cidan: it can if you use useparent-unit and such, but it still requires a partyN unit frame |
| 13:50.21 | foxlit | Is anything actually interesting happening to it? |
| 13:50.34 | Cidan | haste: I see, okay. |
| 13:50.52 | Cidan | foxlit: is it a wreck in beta? |
| 13:51.08 | haste | Cidan: some of it isn't loaded |
| 13:51.11 | alestane | Stuff that was on the "control" object (like the :Run method) is being moved onto all frame handles. |
| 13:51.15 | Cidan | oof |
| 13:51.17 | haste | and some parts are "broken" |
| 13:51.30 | foxlit | Some of it is in an inconsistent state |
| 13:51.35 | haste | eagerly awaits next patch. |
| 13:51.55 | foxlit | "We tried some changes, but checking whether they work before committing is for cowards" |
| 13:52.16 | foxlit | Shouldn't complain, my release philosophy as well. :) |
| 13:52.24 | haste | works pretty well imo |
| 13:52.37 | haste | release early, release often |
| 13:52.46 | alestane | I CAN'T check before committing, foxlit, it won't be secure code. |
| 13:53.18 | alestane | The guy who commits it pretty much makes sure that it gets through the load process without errors first. |
| 13:53.35 | haste | pats alestane. |
| 13:54.15 | alestane | That reminds me, I wanted to add direct flyout support to SecureActionButtonTemplate. |
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| 13:55.45 | Kraps | rock ballads are hard on beat hazard |
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| 13:56.17 | haste | slow music in general |
| 13:56.42 | Kraps | yeah |
| 13:56.58 | alestane | Do you have the Secure* and Restriced* files themselves from the beta build, kd3, rather than the diff? I think there were some changes made besides the ones we submitted and I made to make sure they're merged into my branch. |
| 13:58.16 | alestane | need* to make sure |
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| 14:02.56 | haste | I need to see if Beat Hazard works with latest wine-git |
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| 14:32.51 | malreth | Cairenn|afk is now known as Cairenn|sexxy |
| 14:33.03 | Cairenn | hugs malreth |
| 14:33.36 | Lopeppeppy | Cairenn! Skinny jeans 3.0! |
| 14:33.42 | Lopeppeppy | shows off her hinder-end! |
| 14:33.49 | Cairenn | YAY! |
| 14:33.58 | alestane | admires Lopeppeppy. |
| 14:33.59 | Cairenn | whistles appreciatively |
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| 14:34.30 | alestane | Anyone have a good way to scan for places where I accidentally detabbed to 8 spaces instead of 4, in a document that mostly uses 4-space tab-stops? |
| 14:34.33 | Lopeppeppy | Today is officially a good Friday. |
| 14:35.12 | Cairenn | alestane do a search & replace |
| 14:35.20 | Cairenn | :p |
| 14:35.24 | sylvanaar | search for 8 spaces yeah |
| 14:35.27 | Cairenn | yep |
| 14:35.47 | alestane | The problem is that it will catch a lot of stuff it doesn't need to, since any previous double-tab will be 8 spaces. |
| 14:36.08 | Maldivia | learn to not replace tabs with spaces thne :P |
| 14:36.35 | Wobin | Cairenn: http://jameshance.com/cartoons.html |
| 14:36.39 | Wobin | Wookie the Chew! |
| 14:36.45 | Lopeppeppy | Would you prefer some false positives in your search, or to have to manually look at every line? |
| 14:36.58 | Cairenn | Wobin: cute |
| 14:37.02 | alestane | I'm being consistent with a file I'm maintaining for someone else, Maldivia, so not so much an option. |
| 14:37.15 | Maldivia | alestane: ahh, baah |
| 14:37.30 | Maldivia | but weee, my tradeskill macro works on beta again :P |
| 14:38.25 | alestane | I don't know if there's a regex for "a line that starts with 8 more spaces than the line before it," that would catch most of it. |
| 14:39.34 | Maldivia | that can't be done in regex :P |
| 14:39.44 | foxlit | Maldivia: preg. |
| 14:40.28 | foxlit | In fact, I take that back |
| 14:40.37 | Maldivia | foxlit: so [ ]{x}(.*?)\n[ ]{x+8} <-- not possible :P |
| 14:40.47 | foxlit | capture and backreference, Mal. |
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| 14:42.09 | Maldivia | hmm, so "^([ ]*).*?\n\1[ ]{8}"? |
| 14:42.10 | foxlit | "((%s+)[^\n]+\n()%1)" .. ("%s"):rep(8) |
| 14:43.06 | foxlit | The same idea, yeah. |
| 14:43.16 | sylvanaar | is it lua, i cna try my code formatter on it |
| 14:43.48 | Maldivia | foxlit: wont %s capture tab as well? |
| 14:43.54 | foxlit | Any whitespace. |
| 14:44.03 | foxlit | Replace with another class as needed; I'm not picky :) |
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| 14:45.38 | foxlit | Might be a good idea to force \n at the start of the pattern, too. |
| 14:47.18 | Maldivia | I had a ^ :) |
| 14:48.15 | Maldivia | anyway, back to uldum to find more quests :P |
| 14:50.22 | kd3 | alestane, email away |
| 14:50.40 | alestane | Thanks, although I think I'm about caught up with everything. |
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| 14:52.58 | alestane | There were only two changes I didn't know about. |
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| 14:53.11 | alestane | But the diff will allow me to make sure of that. |
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| 15:11.28 | p3lim | Do I need to get both PCMark and 3DMark? |
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| 15:23.55 | mikma | cairenn: http://kuvaton.com/browse/15575/dog_stair_scratching.gif |
| 15:24.07 | Cairenn | hehehehe |
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| 15:38.17 | cog|work | <3 |Jelly| |
| 15:38.32 | |Jelly| | fails at SC2 :( |
| 15:39.53 | Cidan | |Jelly|: :( |
| 15:39.58 | Cidan | |Jelly|: Takes practice |
| 15:40.20 | batrick | indeed, failing does |
| 15:41.44 | |Jelly| | I've had plenty of practice failing. |
| 15:42.47 | Shirik | |Jelly| |
| 15:42.49 | Shirik | just play me |
| 15:42.54 | Shirik | either you'll commit suicide or become awesome |
| 15:43.15 | cog|work | that's how i learned to tank |
| 15:43.26 | |Jelly| | Translation: I'm going to kick the shit out of you over and over and over again. |
| 15:43.29 | |Jelly| | Me too. lol |
| 15:43.29 | cog|work | although i think it was lunessa who wanted to /wrists |
| 15:43.31 | cog|work | >< |
| 15:46.05 | Lopeppeppy | lurvs Lunessa. |
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| 15:57.07 | kneeki | Hi everyone! |
| 15:57.22 | zenzelezz | ohai |
| 15:58.51 | Lopeppeppy | heya, kneeki! |
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| 16:03.23 | Adys | http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/MKuf/~3/og0MIVBIAj0/trimming-our-privacy-policies.html |
| 16:03.42 | Fisker | don't feedproxy me broo |
| 16:04.08 | Fisker | btw Adys |
| 16:04.16 | Adys | WHATTTTTTt |
| 16:04.25 | Fisker | September 4th: Google was sued because person found out that Google policies didn't apply to external sites |
| 16:04.27 | Fisker | :3 |
| 16:04.35 | Adys | yea |
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| 16:04.53 | cog|work | station |
| 16:04.54 | Cairenn | station |
| 16:04.56 | Lunessa | station |
| 16:04.58 | Adys | station |
| 16:05.08 | Lunessa | Be excellent to each other. |
| 16:05.15 | Adys | Did I win the station game? |
| 16:05.23 | kneeki | I figured before I start wasting hours crying cuddled in a corner, I would ask here. Does anyone know what's wrong with http://wowuidev.pastey.net/140337 which would cause it to not populate when the player logs in? It's in the root of an lua file, not contained in any function or anything.. |
| 16:05.27 | cog|work | i started typing before he even logged in |
| 16:05.34 | cog|work | gogo MSN ding |
| 16:05.40 | Cairenn | ditto |
| 16:05.46 | cog|work | :) |
| 16:05.50 | Adys | ok that's fucking unfair. |
| 16:05.57 | cog|work | XD |
| 16:05.57 | Adys | you two should be banned from this game |
| 16:06.09 | Lunessa | Station! |
| 16:06.09 | Fisker | http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1394/1/ <-maybe i should get one of those |
| 16:06.23 | Fisker | btw |
| 16:06.26 | Fisker | no fucking station |
| 16:06.31 | Fisker | maybe a busstop |
| 16:06.36 | PProvost | kneeki: You have that in the root of your .lua file? |
| 16:06.49 | the-golem | im confused. why (w/sh)ould googles privacy policy apply to an external site? |
| 16:06.50 | PProvost | e.g. not in a function? |
| 16:07.16 | Adys | the-golem: they wouldnt |
| 16:07.22 | kneeki | PProvost: Yup |
| 16:07.27 | PProvost | That won't work |
| 16:07.31 | PProvost | It will get overrwritten later |
| 16:07.36 | kneeki | Why? |
| 16:07.47 | kneeki | (this is in cata btw, this works fine in live) |
| 16:08.25 | PProvost | pretty sure it will get overwritten when savedvars load |
| 16:08.44 | PProvost | I'm assuming that is a savedvars |
| 16:09.21 | kneeki | Yeah, it is... I bet your right |
| 16:09.30 | kneeki | If I remove that saved vars, I betcha it will work =p |
| 16:09.59 | PProvost | Or move that to an event that happens after |
| 16:10.23 | the-golem | Adys: I didn't think so. So this is another McCoffee lawsuit kinda thing again, then ^^ |
| 16:10.40 | Adys | Fisker: explain to him plz. |
| 16:10.40 | PProvost | If your goal is to create defaults, you should use a metatable in something after the savedvars are loaded |
| 16:10.45 | Adys | afk sleep |
| 16:11.38 | sylvanaar | one of you already have a tested regex for replacing getglobal calls with _G[] |
| 16:12.03 | kneeki | hmmm, same result after i removed the save vars and restarted wow |
| 16:12.36 | foxlit | sylvanaar: function getglobal(n) return _G[n]; end |
| 16:12.46 | Fisker | i can't Adys |
| 16:12.48 | sylvanaar | yeah, im thinking about it |
| 16:13.00 | Fisker | i just had an epic bottle of juice |
| 16:13.02 | kneeki | Oi! I'm super confused. I've not done WoW Lua in awhile... But I don't see why this wouldn't work. |
| 16:13.23 | malreth | WTF! colloquy decided to un-ignore Fisker |
| 16:13.49 | foxlit | kneeki: define "wouldn't work" :) |
| 16:14.00 | Fisker | WTF! People still think announcing that they're ignoring people is cool |
| 16:14.03 | foxlit | What do you expect to happen, and what actually happen? |
| 16:14.15 | Fisker | Adys can you tell malreth to pass the popcorn, you know, because i'm ignoring him? |
| 16:14.15 | malreth | i never announced my ignore on you in the first place |
| 16:14.34 | malreth | i just ignored you... then acted like I kept responding to you just to really fuck with your head |
| 16:14.40 | kneeki | foxlit: my table is not being written upon login/reload, it's empty. The file is being loaded, and the table is being created, just not propagated with information |
| 16:14.40 | malreth | you've been on ignore for weeks now, actually |
| 16:14.45 | Fisker | you fucked with my mind malreth |
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| 16:15.20 | Fisker | oh well |
| 16:15.24 | foxlit | kneeki: "not propagated" is misleading |
| 16:15.29 | Fisker | i guess gearbox doing DNF is finally official |
| 16:15.35 | Fisker | http://kotaku.com/5629550/nice-t+shirt-gearboxs-randy-pitchford |
| 16:15.38 | kneeki | foxlit: Sorry, trying to sound smart |
| 16:15.41 | Lopeppeppy | morning, Lunessa. |
| 16:15.43 | kneeki | ;) |
| 16:15.47 | foxlit | What likely happens is that your code runs, creates your table with all of its data from your Lua file |
| 16:15.49 | Lopeppeppy | I told you I lurved you earlier, but you were still asleeping. |
| 16:15.50 | Lunessa | Morning peppy-dear. |
| 16:15.57 | foxlit | Then your saved variables load, replacing your awesome table with an empty table |
| 16:16.01 | cog|work | is true i saw it! |
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| 16:16.07 | foxlit | When you log out, that empty table is saved to disk to be restored later. |
| 16:16.16 | kneeki | foxlit: That's what I thought, so I deleted the saved variables from the .toc, and reloaded |
| 16:16.24 | kneeki | should I delete the file from WTF as well? |
| 16:16.31 | foxlit | kneeki: no, restart WoW. |
| 16:16.37 | kneeki | Tried that, same result |
| 16:16.49 | Lunessa | basks in the warm glow. |
| 16:17.13 | malreth | better a warm glow than a warm flow |
| 16:17.22 | foxlit | Okay. |
| 16:17.26 | kneeki | Actually, there isn't even a saved variables file in the WTF folder, just a .lua.bak |
| 16:17.52 | foxlit | Add a PanodumDB2 = PanorumDB line after your pasted code |
| 16:18.42 | kneeki | That works, something must be overwriting it with an empty void of doom.. |
| 16:23.55 | Lopeppeppy | Don't stand in the void poo. |
| 16:24.41 | kneeki | no kidding |
| 16:25.05 | kneeki | Which arg posesses the addon name when using ADDON_LOADED? Is it still arg1? |
| 16:25.43 | foxlit | eclipse decay out of combat is evil :( |
| 16:25.50 | foxlit | kneeki: There is no arg1 |
| 16:26.06 | foxlit | But yes, it's the first argument after event. |
| 16:26.06 | kneeki | uhm, oh |
| 16:26.44 | foxlit | so if your event handler is function f(self, event, ...) then local addonname = ...; |
| 16:26.47 | kneeki | So... if (event == "ADDON_LOADED" and arg1 == "Pandorum") then DOSTUFF end ? |
| 16:27.22 | foxlit | That'll work on live, yes. |
| 16:27.37 | kneeki | Not on Cata? |
| 16:28.18 | foxlit | not unless arg1 is in your function signature. |
| 16:29.05 | kneeki | I'm just as bad at this as I remember. :( |
| 16:29.56 | Shirik | change arg1 to (...) |
| 16:31.49 | kneeki | Well, that did it |
| 16:31.59 | kneeki | Changing stuff makes me sad :( |
| 16:32.10 | kneeki | I understood arg1 arg2 arg3 ect, but not ... |
| 16:32.26 | cog|work | has anyone pointed out that arg1, arg2, etc have been deprecated for nearly 4 years yet? |
| 16:32.29 | cog|work | <.< |
| 16:32.32 | cog|work | >.> |
| 16:32.33 | Cidan | Ya |
| 16:32.36 | Cidan | been a long time now. |
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| 16:32.56 | cog|work | you were supposed to stop using them a looong time ago |
| 16:32.58 | cog|work | :P |
| 16:33.03 | kneeki | lol |
| 16:33.14 | kneeki | Well, I must have learned from the wrong people's code |
| 16:33.27 | kneeki | Oh, and making that changes somehow magically fixed my table issue |
| 16:33.30 | cog|work | i think wowwiki's event article never got a good revamp |
| 16:33.31 | kneeki | fantabby! |
| 16:33.51 | cog|work | or at least not a timely one |
| 16:33.53 | kneeki | cog|work: It REALLY needs one, I've had to switch over to wowprogramming.com |
| 16:34.04 | cog|work | ~lart "had to" |
| 16:34.04 | purl | rm -rf's "had to" |
| 16:34.06 | cog|work | imo ;) |
| 16:34.13 | cog|work | imbo |
| 16:34.18 | cog|work | (in my biased opinion) |
| 16:34.27 | kneeki | lol |
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| 16:36.52 | foxlit | cog|work: i think wowwiki's event article never got a good revamp << Did you check it in the last year or two? |
| 16:37.02 | cog|work | 09:33 < cog|work> or at least not a timely one |
| 16:37.03 | Lopeppeppy | Sure would be nice if we had some grenades, right about now... |
| 16:37.32 | alestane | If you want to, kneeki, you can change "function(self, event, ...)" to "function(self, event, arg1, ...)" and it will patch it up (or even "function(self, event, arg1, arg2, arg3, arg4, arg5, arg6, arg7, arg8, arg9, arg10, arg11, ...)"). |
| 16:37.40 | alestane | No, Lopeppeppy, you'd use them. |
| 16:37.44 | cog|work | and then there are all the people who learned from others'/blizzard's code |
| 16:37.57 | foxlit | Then again, I'm not actually sure which events article you're talking about :) |
| 16:37.58 | cog|work | i'm not trying to say it's all wowiki's fault :P |
| 16:37.59 | Lopeppeppy | I would, alestane, that's the point. I believe that Ender's way is the only way. |
| 16:38.16 | alestane | Xenocide? |
| 16:38.16 | kneeki | alestane: Thanks, but I think that learning to do it properly would help me in the long run =( |
| 16:38.54 | Fisker | http://blog.pikimal.com/geek/2010/09/03/piki-at-pax-the-duke-he-has-returned/ <-always bet on duke |
| 16:38.55 | alestane | It actually depends on how many event types you're trying to handle directly in one function, kneeki. |
| 16:38.56 | foxlit | The "here's how you handle events" *article* has always been current, partly because it didn't exist prior to 2009 :) |
| 16:39.12 | kneeki | alestane: Oh? |
| 16:39.21 | Lopeppeppy | Damage your enemy before he damages you, and do it hard enough that he never gets the chance to hurt you. |
| 16:40.16 | alestane | Well, the advantage of using ... in your signature is that you can dynamically assign it to lists of variables that have sensible names, since the argument purposes vary according to the event. |
| 16:40.29 | cog|work | foxlit: looking at the history, Handling_events was adapted from the original Events_(API) page which had bad info right up until the split early last year |
| 16:40.38 | cog|work | http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?title=Handling_events&oldid=1780961 |
| 16:41.19 | alestane | But if you have a function that's only supposed to handle events with a specific argument list (say you use an event dispatcher as your main script), then you can just build those into the signature. |
| 16:41.31 | cog|work | ^ the first version of the new page, as of early 2009 not saying anything about the vararg style. |
| 16:41.44 | cog|work | (though it looks like it was fixed the following day) |
| 16:42.12 | cog|work | i'd consider late 2006 to early 2009 "not timely" ;) |
| 16:42.43 | foxlit | "not saying anything about the vararg style." >> function MyAddOn_OnEvent(self, eventName, ...) :) |
| 16:42.54 | cog|work | that's not using the varargs |
| 16:43.00 | cog|work | err |
| 16:43.52 | foxlit | But conceded, Events (API) was a mess :) |
| 16:43.54 | cog|work | yeah, hidden at the bottom under the "all lua method" |
| 16:43.57 | cog|work | ;) |
| 16:44.10 | foxlit | can't find any Remora Oil |
| 16:44.10 | cog|work | as if it's some secondary thing that you might one day use |
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| 16:47.17 | kneeki | Killing myself with Lifetap makes me giggle |
| 16:48.30 | PProvost | They reactivated that in Cata? |
| 16:51.43 | foxlit | "Ve are havink a small problem!" |
| 16:52.09 | foxlit | I wish they'd voice some of those quest texts. Would be way more hilarious than phonetic spelling for accents. |
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| 16:57.56 | kneeki | On Cata, why are some of the glyphs greyed out in my talents/glyphs frame? Do I have to 'purchase' them before I can use them? |
| 16:58.18 | Cidan | likely not in yet, if I had to guess |
| 16:58.31 | Cidan | of course, just guessing. |
| 16:58.58 | Lopeppeppy | Name of them changed? Properties changed? Just guessing. |
| 16:59.13 | kneeki | Hm, weird |
| 16:59.28 | foxlit | kneeki: that is presumably the way you acquire glyphs |
| 16:59.32 | batrick | mmo champion said glyphs are no longer consumable |
| 16:59.35 | foxlit | Use an item to learn, then apply from the panel. |
| 16:59.37 | kneeki | The only ones I can use are the ones I had on my character when I transferred over |
| 16:59.47 | kneeki | yeah, I just need to find the vendor |
| 17:01.49 | kneeki | Ah, found 'em. In Dalaran =) |
| 17:03.12 | kneeki | I LOVE that you have to discover the entrance to a dungeon before you can queue for it |
| 17:03.39 | Cidan | wow |
| 17:03.42 | Cidan | did they change that? |
| 17:03.43 | Cidan | really? |
| 17:03.50 | Cidan | you can't just queue up anymore? |
| 17:03.55 | Cidan | That's an amazing change, if so. |
| 17:04.04 | kneeki | yup |
| 17:05.45 | Lunessa | kneeki: Some of them are still NYI - this patch is the first pass of the new glyphs system |
| 17:06.03 | kneeki | Lunessa: Yeah, I'm seeing a lot of duplicates, but it's nice to know =) |
| 17:06.04 | Lunessa | Cidan: For new instances, yes. |
| 17:06.12 | Cidan | That's great news. |
| 17:06.35 | Lunessa | No more "How do I get to the instance?" after a wipe. |
| 17:08.50 | Cidan | Ya, I'm making it a point to show my girlfriend around the world, so she learns where stuff is |
| 17:09.44 | Cide | great news everyone! |
| 17:09.47 | Lopeppeppy | a tour is a good thing, Cidan. |
| 17:09.52 | foxlit | They rolled that back, iirc. |
| 17:09.59 | foxlit | It's only the newer instances that are picky |
| 17:10.10 | Cidan | better than nothing, :/ |
| 17:10.22 | foxlit | better than everything, too |
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| 17:11.02 | foxlit | The concept doesn't really make sense for low-level instances -- it'd just reduce the already small pool of available players further. |
| 17:11.10 | Cide | yep |
| 17:11.16 | Cide | and they're far too many and far too spread out |
| 17:11.32 | Cidan | It's true. |
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| 17:16.00 | batrick | I like how they're moving quests to the entrances |
| 17:16.02 | batrick | that was so annoying |
| 17:16.10 | batrick | i hate quest hunting for dungeons |
| 17:18.52 | cog|work | yes. |
| 17:19.05 | cog|work | you want to go to ZF? do long ass quest chain int hinterlands first plox |
| 17:20.20 | alestane | I just discovered that one horde quest chain in the hinterlands takes you in there too, probably to make up for the horde not doing Saving Sharbeak. |
| 17:21.00 | alestane | The "back-and-forth" between Tanaris and the Hinterlands in particular was kind of absurd, they're almost at opposite ends of the world. |
| 17:21.01 | batrick | wait, people still do ZF? |
| 17:21.08 | Fisker | cog|work |
| 17:21.11 | Fisker | did you bet on duke? |
| 17:21.11 | cog|work | no u |
| 17:21.23 | batrick | oh wait |
| 17:21.26 | batrick | i'm thinking of ZG |
| 17:21.29 | batrick | ya ZF |
| 17:21.47 | mikma | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Alonsus&cn=Titchh - jesus what a gear |
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| 17:25.17 | Lunessa | Frelling Comcast cable. My home internet connection is so crappy I'm lucky I can connected to a web site, let alone login to wow. /sigh |
| 17:32.09 | jnwhiteh | Anyone here messed with cooldown animations, or just even used one =) |
| 17:32.09 | jnwhiteh | http://wowprogramming.com/forums/development/349#1 |
| 17:32.18 | jnwhiteh | I'd appreciate help on this one |
| 17:34.54 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 17:34.59 | Fisker | did you bet on duke? |
| 17:37.00 | foxlit | Hm, so they patched relics to be stat sticks |
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| 17:40.37 | Krahg | Hey |
| 17:41.50 | alestane | I thought they were trying to unify them somehow, anyway. |
| 17:41.57 | Krahg | omg! I have a key!! |
| 17:42.30 | Lopeppeppy | OMG! |
| 17:42.32 | Krahg | I just checked to see if there were more since add-ons were given out and I got one! OH MY Happiness! Thanks! |
| 17:44.06 | Krahg | I hope it's not as frustrating as the FF14 beta is... |
| 17:44.55 | Cidan | oh wow |
| 17:44.57 | Cidan | let me check too |
| 17:45.00 | Krahg | I have been at that for days since I got my key for it, and it's just server error and cryptic messages obfuscated by multiple domains and so far I don't even have any software |
| 17:45.02 | Cidan | I have the client installed |
| 17:45.15 | Krahg | I have the KR client, but I know how to switch it to NA |
| 17:45.49 | Cidan | :( |
| 17:45.52 | Cidan | how did you get a key? |
| 17:46.01 | Krahg | which beta? |
| 17:46.09 | Krahg | Wow, or ff14? |
| 17:46.16 | Cidan | ff14, lol, :( |
| 17:46.39 | kneeki | Cidan, I can find you the link if you'd like |
| 17:46.52 | Krahg | I am afraid the answer to that is not simple :( I will give you a pointer in the correct direction and best I can help you. |
| 17:46.53 | Cidan | No keys are being given out, sorry, I think we got confused. |
| 17:47.07 | kneeki | http://entry.ffxiv.com/na/index.html |
| 17:47.25 | kneeki | yeah, seems they have stopped giving them out again. They were doing it this morning though |
| 17:47.29 | kneeki | Applications for the FINAL FANTASY XIV Open Beta Test have been temporarily suspended. Please wait until we are ready to accept new applications and then try again. |
| 17:47.53 | Krahg | you have to create a square enix account on one website, then go to the link kneeki said |
| 17:48.02 | kneeki | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:48.41 | Krahg | then you get an email that you answer and go back to the first site to enter information and log into a third site (if you can) to download the client |
| 17:48.45 | Cidan | Sorry, I thought we were talking about getting an FFXIV key at first, totally confused. |
| 17:48.47 | Krahg | I started here: http://www.ffxivcore.com/ |
| 17:48.58 | Krahg | I have an ff14 key |
| 17:49.04 | Cidan | I've been trying to get a 14 key for like, days. |
| 17:49.06 | Cidan | :( |
| 17:49.14 | Krahg | now is a good ti9me to try... |
| 17:49.18 | Cidan | Just did |
| 17:49.20 | Cidan | it failed. |
| 17:49.28 | Cidan | no keys being given out, etc. |
| 17:49.30 | Krahg | but it's not the end of the struggle, is all I am saying. |
| 17:50.32 | Krahg | that would be strange in my opinion. It seems they have not had the application up very long. Are there really THAT many people interested in it? |
| 17:50.45 | Cidan | I think so, yes. |
| 17:50.51 | Cidan | I hear the interface is crap for the game. |
| 17:51.17 | Krahg | if the process to create and account and download the client is an indication of anything... I don't expect much. |
| 17:51.37 | Krahg | but it's beta so these things happen I guess. |
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| 17:54.46 | Cidan | Shame if the interface ends up sucking; my gripe with 11 was the controls, but the interface was okay |
| 17:54.59 | Cidan | I couldn't play 11, it was clearly a console game ported to the PC |
| 17:55.31 | Krahg | There seem to be a lot of server problems as if they are overloaded or something... but I think you could keep trying and get your key for FF |
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| 18:02.50 | Krahg | I quit wow for about 8 months when wrath was released and came back at the end of 3.2 after everyone was done with ulduar. |
| 18:03.11 | Krahg | Took me forever to find ten people that wanted to clear ulduar and get rusted drakes |
| 18:04.23 | Krahg | finally got them and we planned two nights. blew through everything the first night and no one wanted to come back for one light :( four weeks later 10 new people are ready to go, we finish off vezasx and head to yogg.... someone called all the keepers down :( |
| 18:05.16 | Krahg | now no one wants to start from scratch again, and blizzard won't fix it because they dont fix stuff when players do things maliciously like that. |
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| 18:05.55 | Qbert_ | hi |
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| 18:06.07 | Krahg | Hello, Qbert |
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| 18:08.11 | Qbert_ | i have a question, Is there a way to get the value from a dropdown menu when I click a value? I've created a dynamical menu that shows the data inside a table. I want to get the id of the option selected when I click it. Per example, if first option in the menu is called "Lemons", when I click lemons, I want to print 1 |
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| 18:16.05 | kneeki | How do I go about retreaving the first argument from ... with an OnEvent? local blah = select(...,1) ? |
| 18:16.34 | Krahg | So I signed up for an Author key for Cata beta with CurseForge and WowInterface... do I just cancel CurseForge now? How do I do that? I don't have any use for another key at the moment. |
| 18:16.46 | alestane | In the case of the first one, just ... or (...) is fine, kneeki. |
| 18:17.16 | Arrowmaster | just ... is enough for 'local blah = ...' |
| 18:17.32 | alestane | You can use select(1, ...) if you want to, but since select returns the nth argument and everything after it, select(1, ...) is the same as ... |
| 18:17.53 | kneeki | alestane: Ah gotcha |
| 18:17.57 | Arrowmaster | for that exact reason you should never use select(1, ...) |
| 18:18.03 | Arrowmaster | because its pointless |
| 18:18.06 | kneeki | Yeah, to do just the first one, you could do (select(1, ...)) |
| 18:18.17 | kneeki | select() is a bad idea as well? :( |
| 18:18.30 | alestane | But again, totally redundant in cases where you're hardcodig the 1. |
| 18:18.54 | kneeki | yeah |
| 18:19.03 | Arrowmaster | there are times when you want (...) but its mostly for clarity, generally just ... is enough |
| 18:19.22 | alestane | If you say "local blah = ...", then blah will be set to the first value in ... |
| 18:19.58 | Arrowmaster | only real times you want to use (...) are when you are using it with a function that can take additional arguments but you dont want to pass any additional arguments to it |
| 18:20.25 | kneeki | Hmm, okay |
| 18:20.42 | kneeki | thx you two! |
| 18:20.54 | Arrowmaster | oh hey Aqua playing on the di.fm stream im listening to |
| 18:23.11 | Kraps | so Fisker you like the game? |
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| 18:25.36 | Cidan | when keys come in from the dev signup for cata beta, they come via registered e-mail, right? |
| 18:27.18 | Cide | hi Shirik |
| 18:27.21 | Lunessa | Holy hell, the UI&M forum in beta is like old times. |
| 18:27.22 | Cide | why are your reply times so epic |
| 18:27.34 | alestane | How so, Lunessa? |
| 18:27.37 | Cide | you mean it's actually useful Lunessa? |
| 18:28.39 | Lunessa | actually useful and full of people who know what the hell they're talking about. a whole rogue's gallery of UI community folks |
| 18:37.47 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 18:38.49 | Lunessa | And the occasional stupid one or three, I'll admit. |
| 18:40.22 | Lunessa | "The flight path costs, and, well, the paths themselves seem a bit out of sorts. I have three flight paths in Hyjal, yet flying from Moonglade to Felwood takes me from Moonglade to Winterspring to Azshara to Ashenvale. Admittedly, the cost for the 5 stop trip is only 25 silver, but the bat doesn't even serve peanuts, nor is there an in-flight movie! " http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26726013005&sid=2000 |
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| 19:03.06 | mikma | please knockout him for a moment |
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| 19:07.56 | Sliker | [amsg] shouldn't happen again but with mirc you never know. |
| 19:10.02 | Cide | thank you for the spam Sliker |
| 19:10.15 | malreth | like nuclear weapons and penises, you shouldn't use what you cannot control |
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| 19:10.36 | Sliker | Well I tried xchat but somethings keeps bringing me back to mirc. |
| 19:10.40 | Sliker | something* |
| 19:11.07 | Cide | such as /amsg |
| 19:11.23 | Sliker | Actually I've never used that before |
| 19:11.27 | Cide | (21:07:56) Sliker: [amsg] shouldn't happen again but with mirc you never know. |
| 19:12.01 | Alram | Fisker, always bet on duke |
| 19:12.58 | Lunessa | malreth: Then I don't think most of use should be allowed to use a penis. |
| 19:13.42 | Lopeppeppy | ^ |
| 19:14.21 | Lunessa | It's funnier without the typo. |
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| 19:34.23 | Sliker | .. The old race intro voice-over guy passed away, right |
| 19:35.08 | Sliker | Just, the new voice over sounds /exactly the same/ |
| 19:36.56 | Cide | did you bet on duke Fisker? |
| 19:36.57 | Cidan | Tony Jay |
| 19:37.07 | Cidan | Yes, I was very sad when he died, :( |
| 19:38.03 | Cidan | or, at least I thought. |
| 19:38.39 | Cidan | Ah |
| 19:38.42 | Cide | at least you thought you were sad? |
| 19:38.43 | Cidan | no, it's earl boen |
| 19:38.45 | cog|work | amg |
| 19:38.47 | cog|work | http://epicwinftw.com/2010/08/27/awesome-videos-i-am-the-man-who-arranges-the-blocks/ |
| 19:39.01 | Cidan | Sliker: Earl Boen does the voice acting for WoW intro, etc |
| 19:39.10 | Sliker | Ah. |
| 19:39.12 | Sliker | alright then. |
| 19:39.45 | Sliker | I could've been sure there was something about him dying |
| 19:39.53 | Sliker | well, not him, but whoever it was/n't at the time. |
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| 19:43.33 | malreth | http://www.food52.com/recipes/6441_fresh_sriracha_aka_home_made_rooster |
| 19:43.50 | cog|work | win |
| 19:44.19 | cog|work | bookmark'd |
| 19:44.29 | Lopeppeppy | Why can't I have s'mores! |
| 19:44.35 | malreth | cog|work: i had Eric Clapton's Layla stuck in my head since Wednesday. Now it's the damn Tetris song. |
| 19:44.46 | cog|work | malreth: http://www.unhearit.com |
| 19:45.00 | Lunessa | malreth: Noooo. It's a trap! |
| 19:45.10 | cog|work | lol... the first one that came up for me was a remix of SMB3 music >< |
| 19:46.08 | malreth | cog|work: that site just plays Chumbawamba and nothing else for me |
| 19:46.21 | cog|work | that's ... odd |
| 19:46.28 | cog|work | the new song button works for me |
| 19:46.33 | malreth | I GET KNOCKED DOWN... BUT I GET UP AGAIN... |
| 19:46.45 | cog|work | you i'll tell you what i want what i really really want |
| 19:46.54 | cog|work | s/you i/yo i/ |
| 19:47.03 | jnwhiteh | i wanna, i wanna |
| 19:47.12 | malreth | LIVIN' LA VIDA LOCA |
| 19:47.32 | Lopeppeppy | Don't go chasin' waterfalls |
| 19:47.53 | malreth | ... Can't touch this ... |
| 19:48.05 | Lunessa | Contiune not. Time for Hammer it is. |
| 19:48.20 | Lopeppeppy | Mmmmm! |
| 19:50.43 | Sliker | tempted to do ~what is love |
| 19:51.00 | cog|work | will hurt you, will hurt you |
| 19:51.30 | cog|work | damage done methinks >< |
| 19:52.11 | malreth | Tainted love, whoa oh ohh oh |
| 19:52.50 | cog|work | you are the dancing queen, young and sweet, only 17 |
| 19:54.36 | malreth | http://soundcloud.com/tanelise09/herb-alpert-spanish-flea |
| 19:54.59 | cog|work | ha |
| 20:00.25 | foxlit | "If you don't want DPS to do instances, why not just remove them? These times have jumped by an insane measure recently and now it's not even worth trying to que. " |
| 20:00.58 | Lopeppeppy | Her name is Rio, and she dances on the sand. |
| 20:01.40 | Lunessa | Just like that river winding through a dusty land... |
| 20:03.39 | Dagmar | When you see your mom this weekend, tell her I said... |
| 20:03.47 | Dagmar | SATAN! SATAN! SATAN! |
| 20:04.32 | foxlit | LRR has some awesome sketches about that. |
| 20:04.46 | Dagmar | It's probably where Orbital sampled it from. |
| 20:06.35 | Dagmar | Here we go... It's a vinyl rip from someone who has no idea how to clean dust but still... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo29_EjE-1Q |
| 20:06.41 | Lunessa | Man lives. Man dies. And it's all vanity. |
| 20:07.03 | Dagmar | That thing would get people just about hovering in the air. |
| 20:07.35 | malreth | This is Ground Control to Major Tom. You've really made the grade. |
| 20:08.49 | Lunessa | This is a happening tailpipe of a party. Like sugar, your guests are so refined. |
| 20:08.53 | Lopeppeppy | And the papers want to know whose shirts you wear. |
| 20:09.34 | Dagmar | Hmm... Looks like no one pretty much is using Square's downloader for FFXIV |
| 20:10.19 | malreth | http://www.boingboing.net/2010/08/26/gentleman-arrested-a.html <-- Coheed and Cambria reference by comment #8 |
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| 20:10.52 | alestane | Lunessa: http://textsfromlastnight.com/Text-Replies-20228.html |
| 20:11.02 | malreth | and another in #20 |
| 20:11.24 | alestane | Right up there with http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2005/10/12/ |
| 20:11.30 | Lunessa | alestane: the mind boggles. |
| 20:12.42 | alestane | You know, I'd laugh, but this doesn't actually seem that far-fetched to me: http://notalwaysright.com/bird-brained-part-6/6853 |
| 20:12.48 | alestane | Either as an incident or a habit. |
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| 20:13.26 | Lunessa | *chuckle* You and the Mrs. should try it out. |
| 20:13.30 | Dagmar | It works. |
| 20:14.03 | cog|away | alestane: miki and I have a distinct whistle we use in big stores |
| 20:14.23 | alestane | Well, these days we just text each other. |
| 20:14.29 | cog|away | it was the "call your dog" whistle from one of the Harvest Moon games |
| 20:14.33 | cog|away | |aways |
| 20:14.50 | alestane | http://notalwaysright.com/corrupt-the-kids-and-youll-have-h-toupee/6836 |
| 20:14.53 | alestane | ...sigh. |
| 20:15.04 | Cide | cog|away: "I am the man who arranges the blocks" is win |
| 20:15.17 | cog|away | i no rite? |
| 20:16.29 | Lunessa | alestane: http://notalwaysright.com/bird-brained-part-6/6853 |
| 20:16.34 | Lunessa | Bach |
| 20:16.43 | Lunessa | http://tfl.nu/227d |
| 20:17.03 | alestane | My wife replied "Says her!" |
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| 20:17.35 | alestane | She says that she would totally shop for maternity fishnets, assuming that they exist and that she needed maternity wear. |
| 20:18.03 | Lunessa | I knew I liked your wife as a person. |
| 20:18.11 | alestane | Actually, this is occasionally a valid design decision: http://clientsfromhell.net/post/1054421175/i-dont-care-if-the-text-doesnt-make-sense-it |
| 20:19.03 | alestane | This one, however, seems like a great excuse to terminate your vendor agreement: http://clientsfromhell.net/post/1049050149/please-erase-all-other-google-search-results |
| 20:21.40 | Lopeppeppy | Mrs. Alestane is made of win. |
| 20:23.39 | Fisker | i hope you bet on duke alestane |
| 20:23.40 | Fisker | and Cide |
| 20:23.42 | alestane | I certainly think so. |
| 20:23.56 | alestane | Don't know when she'll get to meet Lunessa though. |
| 20:24.20 | Lunessa | alestane: It's ok, I'm a bad influence. |
| 20:24.22 | Lunessa | ;) |
| 20:24.51 | Fisker | did you bet on duke Lunessa ? |
| 20:25.14 | Lopeppeppy | Yay for Lunessa! |
| 20:27.09 | Fisker | oh ok Lunessa |
| 20:27.12 | Fisker | die in hell then |
| 20:27.49 | alestane | It looks like you made the right decision, though, Fisker: http://gamasutra.com/view/news/30256/Gearbox_Confirmed_To_Finish_Development_Of_Duke_Nukem_Forever.php |
| 20:28.39 | Fisker | i know |
| 20:31.17 | Lunessa | Man, I haven't thought about that game in forever. |
| 20:31.36 | mikma | heh |
| 20:31.40 | alestane | The use of localization.lua is a convention with no special support, right? |
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| 20:36.54 | Kandoko | Shirik: ping |
| 20:37.06 | Cidan | You know what I love about my office? |
| 20:37.11 | Cidan | Beer Friday |
| 20:43.19 | Lunessa | You know what I hate right now? No beer in my office on Friday. |
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| 21:04.12 | alestane | How does the SavedVariables pickling handle function keys or values? By just ignoring those pairs? |
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| 21:16.01 | Lunessa | So, here's a first for me. A retiree came in to get her password reset (she's 60+) and handed me her handgun license as ID. |
| 21:16.41 | zenzelezz | it's her way of saying "reset it, or else!" |
| 21:16.54 | mikma | lunessa: "it looks just like you" |
| 21:16.56 | Lunessa | I even made that joke. |
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| 21:21.36 | Kandoko | What lua version is Cataclysm beta running on? |
| 21:22.43 | Arrowmaster | 5.1 |
| 21:23.50 | Kandoko | kk, thanks. /sticks head back in to figure out why this is behaving diffrently |
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| 21:38.35 | foxlit | what is behaving differently? |
| 21:45.07 | Kandoko | Ok, from trying to figure out why this overly clever function was failing on beta, it seems somethings changed in how table.remove() behaves on live/beta. |
| 21:45.34 | Kandoko | http://norgdev.pastey.net/140356 if someone else can test it. Yes its stupid, no I didn't write the original function |
| 21:45.59 | Kandoko | That's a simplified foo code version to show the diff |
| 21:49.38 | foxlit | Kandoko: bugfix from Lua 5.1.2 |
| 21:49.55 | foxlit | http://www.lua.org/bugs.html#5.1.2-10 |
| 21:51.36 | Kandoko | kk, Thanks foxlit. Yay for bug fixes :D |
| 21:51.45 | alestane | Can someone render "Click the pet frame" into German for me? |
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| 21:52.25 | alestane | My French was functional enough to get me through, but I have no grasp of German grammar yet. |
| 21:52.35 | Lunessa | For those interested in marketshare numbers.... http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/quantcast_android_eats_into_ios_lead_of_mobile_browsing/ |
| 21:53.38 | alestane | I can deal with Apple only owning a little over half of the market. |
| 21:54.04 | Adys | http://arstechnica.com/web/news/2010/09/google-sticks-wave-source-in-a-box-sticks-a-bow-on-top.ars |
| 21:54.37 | foxlit | And yet I still can't buy an iPhone :( |
| 21:54.37 | alestane | Honestly, they could fall to a third without bothering me much. They've always done pretty well even with 8-12% of the PC market. |
| 21:54.46 | Lunessa | foxlit: Why not? |
| 21:54.55 | foxlit | Lunessa: nobody has them in stock |
| 21:55.03 | Lunessa | Oh. |
| 22:00.35 | Lunessa | errands, then home time. |
| 22:00.39 | Lunessa | ciao tutti |
| 22:06.30 | Kraps | mmoc is getting a new design |
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| 22:16.18 | Torhal | Look, I don't care that it's Friday and most of you probably aren't even here. You're creeping me out. Talk. |
| 22:16.42 | Kraps | Torhal |
| 22:16.53 | Kraps | Resistance is futile |
| 22:17.10 | Torhal | But...Fisker is very sick. |
| 22:18.59 | alestane | I'm getting prograssively unhappy with my job and seriously considering going back to school. |
| 22:19.27 | alestane | I wonder if I can fit a semester of German into a Master's in Computer Science. |
| 22:20.28 | alestane | Since I have no real idea whether "Zeigen Sie das Menü für Spontanbeschwören" will actually mean anything to Germans playing warlocks. |
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| 22:22.38 | cog|away | http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_D74dJWri01A/S7lII-J4AaI/AAAAAAAAAAU/6rjg8DfVGwc/s1600/Narwhal.jpg |
| 22:22.46 | cogwheel | ^ win |
| 22:23.00 | alestane | What does it win? |
| 22:23.22 | cogwheel | a years supply of rainbows and sunshine? |
| 22:23.32 | cogwheel | year's |
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| 22:25.43 | cogwheel | brought http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJGgJmnKS_k to mind |
| 22:27.31 | alestane | Any new fails, cogwheel, or are you still at three? |
| 22:27.46 | cogwheel | nothing new yet... thinking about doing one tonight |
| 22:27.58 | cogwheel | well there was that short drone rush vid just for the lulz |
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| 22:36.41 | Stanzilla | mikma: yeah :o |
| 22:38.36 | Kraps | http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/demotivational-posters-cross-usb-drive.jpg |
| 22:39.09 | alestane | I always preferred "Jesus saves, and takes half damage," Kraps. |
| 22:39.52 | cogwheel | Kraps: i guess that's why JWs believe only ~100,000 people will make it into heaven |
| 22:40.06 | alestane | That's all they have drive space for? |
| 22:40.27 | cogwheel | flash r/w cycles |
| 22:41.03 | cogwheel | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_memory#Write_Endurance |
| 22:43.27 | alestane | Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. |
| 22:43.27 | alestane | And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. |
| 22:43.27 | alestane | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:43.28 | alestane | The Jehovah's Witnesses conveniently forget the part about the children of the ribes of Israel.) |
| 22:44.25 | Kraps | laters |
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| 22:53.03 | cogwheel | my mom just found the chat feature on FB... |
| 22:53.30 | Ressy | lol |
| 22:53.53 | cogwheel | "so is this what you do at work" XD |
| 22:54.02 | cogwheel | "no I use irc for that ;)" |
| 22:54.14 | cogwheel | and now i have to explain irc |
| 22:54.18 | cogwheel | >< |
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| 23:08.37 | DWSR | hey all, anyone for some 2s or 3s on SC2? |
| 23:09.03 | DWSR | cogwheel fail. |
| 23:09.45 | cogwheel | XD |
| 23:09.55 | A-KO | you know even with all the awesome Org upgrades |
| 23:10.03 | A-KO | it still pales in comparison to the awesomeness that is SW |
| 23:10.24 | cbreak | someone had a bite out of it |
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| 23:15.37 | cogwheel | DWSR: if i had more than 15 mins left of work i would :> |
| 23:15.48 | cogwheel | you gonna be around in a couple hrs? |
| 23:17.42 | durcyn | huh, why the hell is UNIT_SPELLCAST_START secure in 4.0 |
| 23:19.02 | foxlit | your terminology is inconsistent. |
| 23:19.26 | foxlit | The concept of a secure event seems dubious. |
| 23:22.26 | foxlit | durcyn: so what did you mean? :) |
| 23:25.31 | Mikk | wonders wth a secure event is |
| 23:26.53 | amro | the opposite of an insecure event |
| 23:28.25 | cog|away | ends his week |
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| 23:34.13 | Lothaer | hey all |
| 23:34.27 | |Jelly| | hi |
| 23:36.38 | DWSR | A secure event, I imagine, is one that only secure handlers can use. |
| 23:36.57 | DWSR | /imagine/ |
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| 23:39.15 | Mikk | blinks |
| 23:39.16 | Mikk | secure handlers? |
| 23:39.20 | Mikk | as in only blizzard code, ever? |
| 23:39.36 | Shadowed | uhh what |
| 23:39.43 | Shadowed | ve no idea what you are talking about, but you sound wrong |
| 23:39.58 | Mikk | i know =) |
| 23:40.14 | Shadowed | I'm talking about what durcyn is saying :P |
| 23:46.22 | Lothaer | man Atlas throws up 62 errors in the beta, sigh lots of work |
| 23:46.49 | Lothaer | is there a detailed list of changes and how to fix them somewhere on wowi> |
| 23:46.53 | Lothaer | ?* |
| 23:47.31 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_4.0.1/API_changes , plus the forum thread linked at the bottom |
| 23:47.45 | foxlit | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26560499864&sid=2000 |
| 23:49.11 | foxlit | hm, oops |
| 23:49.25 | foxlit | bind == "-", bind:match("[^-]+$") |
| 23:50.17 | A-KO | http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f67_1283466968 < and this is why we have tentacle porn |
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| 23:53.19 | durcyn | foxlit: i meant, it seems to disallow insecure hooks now |
| 23:53.40 | durcyn | Attempt to hook secure function UNIT_SPELLCAST_START. Use 'SecureHook' or add 'true' to the argument list to override. |
| 23:53.40 | foxlit | We are talking about events, right? |
| 23:53.44 | durcyn | yes |
| 23:53.50 | durcyn | and talk to blizzard about inconsistent terminology ;) |
| 23:54.08 | durcyn | you'll note i never said function |
| 23:54.12 | foxlit | That doesn't make sense. |
| 23:54.23 | A-KO | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tieA5wfcgH4 |
| 23:54.32 | Shadowed | What you are saying makes even less sense yea :P |
| 23:54.56 | Shadowed | Why would UNIT_SPELLCAST_START be a function |
| 23:54.58 | durcyn | i don't write the error messages! |
| 23:55.03 | Shadowed | well, what are you trying to do |
| 23:55.07 | foxlit | What are you doing to cause them, though? |
| 23:55.18 | durcyn | oh, i haven't even dug into the code yet, it's a quartz hook. |
| 23:55.22 | Shadowed | well |
| 23:55.25 | Shadowed | Quartz is a giant demon from hell |
| 23:55.33 | foxlit | Probably built with Ace, too |
| 23:55.34 | Shadowed | and the code is probably a mix of 1.0 to 4.0 so |
| 23:55.40 | Shadowed | That's hardly a shock :P |
| 23:56.02 | Shadowed | That doesn't sound like a Blizzard error message, pretty much SecureHook is an AceHook method |
| 23:56.28 | Shadowed | And isn't Quartz on Ace2? So it's AceHook-2.0, and we can hardly be shocked that Ace2 is dying horribly in beta |
| 23:56.38 | durcyn | negative, 3 |
| 23:56.53 | DWSR | no |
| 23:56.56 | DWSR | Quartz is on Ace3. |
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| 23:57.19 | Pneumatus | and ace2 isnt dying horribly in beta, either |
| 23:57.47 | Shadowed | oh |
| 23:57.51 | Shadowed | in that case, I blame nevcairiel |
| 23:57.53 | Shadowed | stop srewing up |
| 23:57.55 | Shadowed | screwing even |
| 23:58.41 | Pneumatus | some of the horrible ace2-era libs like waterfall are failing though |
| 23:58.55 | Pneumatus | references to 'this' and whatnot |
| 23:58.56 | Shadowed | That's not actually a Blizzard error though. Check issecurevariable durcyn? |
| 23:59.10 | Shadowed | maybe they changed the arguments for it for some weird reason |
| 23:59.15 | foxlit | durcyn: your error message is from AceHook |
