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| 00:04.43 | foxlit | cog|away: /hate that map |
| 00:05.47 | Cide | kulas ravine or metalopolis? |
| 00:06.08 | foxlit | not metalopolis |
| 00:06.38 | Cide | not a huge fan of kulas ravine either |
| 00:06.40 | Cide | too technical |
| 00:06.56 | foxlit | too big for 1v1, really |
| 00:07.12 | foxlit | and too spread for 2v2 |
| 00:07.52 | Legorol | cog|away: i know you are away, but that is so awesome that you shoutcast your own fails |
| 00:07.56 | Legorol | I'll be watching them with great interest |
| 00:08.12 | Legorol | not because of the fails, but because i think it's a great idea for someone to share their own games and their thoughts on it |
| 00:09.12 | foxlit | Just wish he'd fix youtube while he was there |
| 00:09.27 | Cide | I'll shoutcast your fails Legorol |
| 00:09.38 | Legorol | lol Cide |
| 00:09.40 | Cide | I need to get back to proxy hatching |
| 00:09.44 | Cide | still 2-0 |
| 00:09.45 | Legorol | hahha |
| 00:09.51 | Legorol | that's awesome |
| 00:09.52 | foxlit | no other videos seem to choke quite as much. |
| 00:10.19 | Legorol | Cide: if i was the cause of you developing an imba winning zerg proxy strat, i don't consider myself a fail ;) |
| 00:10.31 | Legorol | i'll take pride in my contribution! |
| 00:11.38 | Cide | lol |
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| 00:16.05 | eidolarr | as promised, one more shot: are there any ui coders here who are looking for an excellent job? |
| 00:17.16 | eidolarr | you would have to survive rigorous interviews but i can at least get you started! |
| 00:22.04 | Cide | not me! |
| 00:22.20 | Cide | well what does it pay? |
| 00:22.36 | eidolarr | it depends on how much equity you want, but generously |
| 00:23.57 | eidolarr | they also feed you 3 times a day and do your laundry |
| 00:24.13 | Tuller | my job only feeds me one time a day |
| 00:24.32 | Tuller | though I have to pay for 80% of that |
| 00:25.07 | eidolarr | well it's free and you can eat whenever else you want free too but you have to heat it up yourself |
| 00:25.12 | eidolarr | i don't do that, i can't even easy mac |
| 00:25.59 | Legorol | eidolarr: maybe if you said something about what the job actually is, it might generate more interest? |
| 00:26.20 | Tuller | that is exactly what I was about to suggest |
| 00:26.42 | Legorol | also, saying where (at least which continent, is it USA? EU? Far East?) might help too |
| 00:26.51 | Legorol | please note that there are people in this channel from everywhere in the world |
| 00:27.19 | Cide | it's in his chocolate factory |
| 00:27.32 | eidolarr | ok; it's a company in Palo Alto, CA called Palantir (yes like lord of the rings), making software that is hard to explain briefly but is sort of like a tool for people to easily analyze information from disparate sources |
| 00:27.51 | eidolarr | it's a start up culture but without the instability |
| 00:28.22 | eidolarr | they are hiring smart people as fast as they can find them and are looking aimg to hire at least 4 excellent UI designers by the end of the year |
| 00:28.41 | Cide | I'm beyond excellent |
| 00:28.47 | Cide | so I guess you'll have to keep looking |
| 00:29.00 | eidolarr | they might give you a fourth meal a day for that |
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| 00:30.23 | Cide | sadly for them I'm in sweden |
| 00:30.33 | Cide | pretty sure the food would be bad by the time it reaches me |
| 00:31.03 | eidolarr | also you have to be elligible for security clearance for some of the projects and no one trusts sweden |
| 00:31.20 | Cide | hey |
| 00:31.23 | Cide | everyone trusts sweden |
| 00:31.26 | Cide | we're all swedehearts |
| 00:31.28 | Tuller | well, i know where tyson's corner is, yay |
| 00:31.32 | Cide | especially me |
| 00:31.57 | Shadowed | huh government contractor looking for UI designers? |
| 00:31.58 | Shadowed | interesting :p |
| 00:32.01 | flugh | near vienna on rt 123 right? |
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| 00:32.38 | eidolarr | Shadowed: yeah that's kind of the interesting part lol, i was talking to the founder and he was like "yeah they used to write down info from various databases and do the calculations by hand because i2's interfaces were so bad" |
| 00:33.06 | Shadowed | haha |
| 00:33.28 | amro | ~lart Adys |
| 00:33.28 | purl | keeps mailing Adys free America Online CDs until he drowns |
| 00:33.32 | amro | it's 28.8k |
| 00:33.36 | Adys | what. |
| 00:33.44 | Adys | i thought you upgraded |
| 00:33.44 | Cide | his modem! |
| 00:33.46 | Tuller | flugh: something like that |
| 00:34.04 | amro | AOL CDs, how appropriate for 28.8 |
| 00:34.05 | Shadowed | Sounds more awful than most interfaces |
| 00:34.15 | eidolarr | it's definitely a cool place to work, w/e hours you want, lots of drinking, etc |
| 00:34.35 | flugh | tuller: i am north of baltimore. i deliver stuff in that general area almost daily. herndon/falls church/fairfax/etc |
| 00:35.04 | Tuller | i'm in alexandria now, but closer to arlington |
| 00:35.05 | amro | fails church |
| 00:35.07 | Shadowed | also Tuller, what MB? SC2 plays fine for me |
| 00:35.20 | Tuller | sc2 plays fine |
| 00:35.25 | amro | I hate NVA |
| 00:35.27 | Tuller | but i don't have a sufficient mouse |
| 00:35.29 | flugh | did 4 stops in alexandra yesterda. 1st street, duke street, kingstown blvd, and beauregard ave |
| 00:35.35 | Shadowed | oh work |
| 00:35.36 | amro | it seems like the sun is 10x more intense as soon as you step into virginia |
| 00:35.40 | Shadowed | yea, no mouse would do that |
| 00:36.04 | flugh | the sun can't catch up to anyone in virginia, it's stuck in all the traffic |
| 00:36.12 | amro | at least maryland has trees |
| 00:36.24 | Tuller | i have a 0.5 mile commute to work, so i avoid the traffic |
| 00:36.33 | Tuller | well, 1.5 mile |
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| 00:38.22 | Tuller | and if your complaint is sunlight, then that's a bit crazy :P |
| 00:39.17 | amro | not at all |
| 00:39.22 | amro | it doesn't melt your face off in DC |
| 00:39.31 | Jerub | Shadowed: hey dude. your EA website is showing goldseller banner adds. |
| 00:39.41 | Shadowed | ugh |
| 00:39.43 | Shadowed | I'll fix it later |
| 00:39.46 | Shadowed | need to get this stuff done |
| 00:39.47 | Jerub | kk |
| 00:39.55 | eidolarr | man I am from philadelphia and I didn't realize there are places in this world without mosquitos |
| 00:39.57 | Jerub | meant to mention it ages ago |
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| 00:40.26 | amro | that's nice about virginia, the sun pops all the mosquitoes |
| 00:40.41 | eidolarr | really? |
| 00:40.51 | Tuller | you must be in the wrong area |
| 00:40.55 | amro | yeah, they go like popcorn |
| 00:41.05 | eidolarr | you are messing with me, SHIT |
| 00:41.26 | amro | used to get giant mosquitoes in DC |
| 00:41.30 | amro | near rock creek pk |
| 00:41.43 | eidolarr | i think the worst i've seen is in tx |
| 00:41.50 | eidolarr | they fuckin swarm out there |
| 00:42.11 | amro | nice thing about texas, you can use your shotgun |
| 00:42.17 | eidolarr | hahaha |
| 00:42.23 | eidolarr | you know what's even worse? horse flies |
| 00:42.54 | eidolarr | i went to a beach during the 1 week of the year when horse flies were out and by the time we left we were bruised and bloody |
| 00:43.05 | amro | that's when you get a tank of propane and use it as a bomb |
| 00:44.21 | Tuller | i guess i never thought of the mosquitos here |
| 00:44.25 | Tuller | used to living in the swamps |
| 00:44.41 | eidolarr | that must be so bad |
| 00:45.07 | amro | not that bad if you have mosquito-proof clothing |
| 00:45.35 | Tuller | per my biologist friend, there's no such thing |
| 00:45.51 | eidolarr | having to wear the mosquito-proof clothing sucks too though, it's so nice to be able to walk outside at 8am and lay on the lawn in the sun |
| 00:46.40 | amro | per my friends in the military, there is such a thing |
| 00:46.55 | amro | unless mosquitoes have laser drills |
| 00:47.24 | eidolarr | covering your arms and legs only encourages them to bite your eyes ok |
| 00:47.39 | eidolarr | once i saw a movie with giant mosquitos sucking people's blood until they died |
| 00:47.50 | eidolarr | iron heart jeans aren't going to help you with that |
| 00:49.21 | amro | well if you just sit still there's nothing I can do for you |
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| 01:01.20 | Jerub | halp, halp. i just got pulled into an icc10 continuation on blood council. |
| 01:01.28 | Jerub | and i think they want me to tank it. |
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| 01:39.16 | Wobin | which brother? |
| 01:39.39 | Wobin | oh. 40 minutes ago. How'd it go? |
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| 01:50.23 | Shirik | Cide |
| 01:50.30 | Shirik | Cide Cide Cide Cide Cide Cide Cide Cide Cide |
| 01:51.15 | Shirik | Cide: Play 3v3 with me :( or 4v4 if Es is around |
| 01:51.17 | Shirik | also http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Book+of+Genesis&diff=381605610&oldid=381371270 |
| 01:51.35 | cogwheel | Shirik: y u no luff me? |
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| 01:53.05 | Shirik | cogwheel? |
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| 01:56.24 | bluspacecow | anyone have OS X 10.5.8 here ? ... trying to figure out why my kernel_tas is taking up 26 - 30 % of my CPU |
| 01:57.04 | Iriel | I'm on 10.5 |
| 01:57.07 | Iriel | 10.6 even |
| 01:57.10 | cogwheel | Shirik: it's ok. i'm not really in the mood to play after putting the last 'cast together |
| 01:57.11 | Iriel | Have you checked Console? |
| 01:57.17 | cbreak | anythibg else? |
| 01:57.20 | bluspacecow | hmmm |
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| 01:58.33 | bluspacecow | 29/08/10 1:18:40 PM kernel { 41 910440} UniNEnet::restartReceiver ? |
| 01:58.53 | bluspacecow | that was 40 minutes ago in the all messages tab |
| 01:59.58 | cbreak | ethernet driver |
| 02:00.17 | cbreak | does anything else use CPU? |
| 02:00.19 | Iriel | Hm, if it's not being spammed then it's hard to say if that has anything to do with your problem |
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| 02:00.40 | bluspacecow | it is actually ... |
| 02:01.40 | NightHawkTheSane | a little googling suggests it may be an external device causing the issue. you have any usb devices attached? |
| 02:02.11 | NightHawkTheSane | (or, really, any kind of device) |
| 02:02.25 | bluspacecow | USB Hub _> USB headset |
| 02:02.38 | Cide | Shirik: ok |
| 02:02.40 | Cide | we can play |
| 02:03.07 | Cide | cogwheel: nice to see more zerg players! |
| 02:03.26 | bluspacecow | is it possible its an unnamed process that's listing itself in the top output as under the kernel ? |
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| 02:03.53 | NightHawkTheSane | bluspacecow: try unplugging those and see if it helps? |
| 02:04.10 | Iriel | bluspacecow: http://discussions.info.apple.com/thread.jspa;jsessionid=E46B4D48B6245E2F5AADBC6012422D80.node0?messageID=11196197� |
| 02:04.10 | Cide | Shirik: are you ready? |
| 02:04.19 | Iriel | Likely the same thread NHTS found |
| 02:04.19 | bluspacecow | wow its dropped down to 0.8 % now |
| 02:04.26 | Iriel | it does suggest some solutions |
| 02:04.27 | NightHawkTheSane | quite possibly Iriel ;) |
| 02:04.32 | Kraps | good saturday evening |
| 02:06.20 | Kraps | bad saturday evening? |
| 02:06.39 | NightHawkTheSane | been a good saturday so far, we'll see how this evening goes, it's still early ;) |
| 02:06.46 | bluspacecow | nah just meh |
| 02:06.50 | bluspacecow | sunday avro here |
| 02:07.28 | Kraps | :) |
| 02:07.45 | bluspacecow | starter mages are OP now |
| 02:07.56 | bluspacecow | i hit for more then my lock i started at the same level |
| 02:10.27 | Kraps | http://www.wow.com/2010/08/28/guest-post-getting-into-the-wow-trading-card-game/ |
| 02:11.58 | Cide | Shirik: ready? |
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| 02:17.21 | Cidan | Does anyone know offhand how to detect if someone is on a battlemount, ie: Drake in Oculus, etc? |
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| 02:18.13 | Humbedooh^ZZzz | depends if it counts as a vehicle or not |
| 02:18.20 | kd3 | [vehicle] typically |
| 02:18.31 | Cidan | Sorry |
| 02:18.34 | Cidan | I meant in lua. |
| 02:18.39 | Cidan | As a vehicle. |
| 02:18.48 | Cidan | Nevermind |
| 02:18.49 | Cidan | found it |
| 02:18.50 | Cidan | :D |
| 02:18.50 | cogwheel | !api vehicle |
| 02:19.02 | cogwheel | oh lua_bot's still awol |
| 02:19.10 | Humbedooh^ZZzz | UnitUsingVehicle and such |
| 02:19.33 | Cidan | Yep, found it, thanks, xD |
| 02:19.34 | ScytheBlade1 | so I am presently doing terrible things to excel |
| 02:19.38 | ScytheBlade1 | =IF(VLOOKUP(A4, LoggedIn, 3, FALSE)=0,IF(ISERROR(VLOOKUP(A4, Checked, 2, FALSE)),"",IF(VLOOKUP(A4, Checked, 2, FALSE)=0,"",VLOOKUP(A4, Checked, 2, FALSE))),VLOOKUP(A4, LoggedIn, 3, FALSE)) |
| 02:20.23 | Humbedooh^ZZzz | an awful lot of ifs and maybes |
| 02:21.54 | bluspacecow | whats the lowest level wand you can get ... i think theres one you get through enchanting ... ? |
| 02:23.39 | Arrowmaster | bluspacecow: either lvl 5 or no requirement |
| 02:24.15 | bluspacecow | whats it called again > |
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| 02:24.25 | Arrowmaster | no idea, look it up on wowhead |
| 02:24.37 | bluspacecow | lesser something i think |
| 02:25.34 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.wowhead.com/item=11287 |
| 02:25.52 | Kraps | http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/United_States_ex_rel._Gerald_Mayo_v._Satan_and_His_Staff |
| 02:26.13 | Ghettogreen | Hello, how is everyone. I came here to work on my addon 'Dominating' If anyone has any comments or suggestions, lemme know. |
| 02:26.45 | Ghettogreen | Hey, bluespacecow :) |
| 02:27.47 | Humbedooh^ZZzz | It's those Liberals at work again, Kraps :( |
| 02:28.02 | Kraps | must be |
| 02:28.22 | Humbedooh^ZZzz | Glenn Beck for Supreme Court! |
| 02:28.34 | Ghettogreen | how 'bout more dev talk; less politics ¬_¬ |
| 02:29.06 | Ghettogreen | Did anyone see that Blizzard has dropped support for PPC Macs? Sucks... |
| 02:29.25 | Arrowmaster | PPC Macs still exist? |
| 02:29.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Ghettogreen: if you don't have a question to ask, what does it matter what we talk about? :P |
| 02:29.50 | bluspacecow | yeah i did |
| 02:29.57 | NightHawkTheSane | I just got rid of my old G5 |
| 02:29.58 | Wobin | no wait NightHawkTheSane... we must do as he asks |
| 02:29.59 | bluspacecow | its time for an upgrade for me anyway |
| 02:30.09 | Ghettogreen | same here |
| 02:30.10 | NightHawkTheSane | I still have an appletv, which is technically PPC, although I don't really use it anymore |
| 02:30.22 | bluspacecow | still using a G5 Isight ...... manaufactured Oct 2005 |
| 02:30.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Yeah, if you're still running a ppc mac you really do need to upgrade :P |
| 02:30.31 | Kraps | lets talk about prop 8 |
| 02:30.33 | Ghettogreen | well, I think you'd have a hard time running WoW on an old AppleTV anyway |
| 02:30.41 | Humbedooh^ZZzz | I'm still running on my old SGI ;( |
| 02:30.44 | Wobin | yay to the downing of prop 8! |
| 02:30.45 | bluspacecow | it would be instersting |
| 02:30.57 | NightHawkTheSane | Ghettogreen: you'd be surprised what people have run on AppleTVs, but quite likely. ;) It can't even handle mkvs |
| 02:31.04 | Humbedooh^ZZzz | don't you mean the downing of the downing of it...or the downing of that |
| 02:31.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: indeed! hopefully it holds up in appeal |
| 02:31.12 | Ghettogreen | I just got a new Power Mac G5 for free from me father's work. It's a pretty powerful computer |
| 02:31.26 | Ghettogreen | and then I find out that I won't even be able to play Cataclysm on it. I was pissed |
| 02:31.28 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, the later & more powerful models are still pretty good machines. |
| 02:31.30 | Dagmar | The AppleTV has *just* enough power to do standard definition mpeg, which is what it was designed for |
| 02:31.32 | Wobin | isn't Prop 8 a bad thing? Ie, the whole 'say no to prop8' in the beginning? |
| 02:31.34 | NightHawkTheSane | But they ARE old. |
| 02:31.49 | bluspacecow | for me its the fact theres a TON of stuff it could run but cant as its PPC not intel |
| 02:31.50 | Humbedooh^ZZzz | ye ye, just lost count of where we are in the case :p |
| 02:31.53 | Wobin | or am I totally confused? |
| 02:31.56 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: Indeed. It was well worth the money I spent on it, It just stopped being able to serve my needs well enough. |
| 02:32.01 | bluspacecow | Parrallels , virtual box , Steam etc etc |
| 02:32.03 | Wobin | You crazy americans =P |
| 02:32.04 | Humbedooh^ZZzz | with the constant overturning of the rulings and whatnot |
| 02:32.10 | Ghettogreen | no kidding |
| 02:32.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: it IS a bad thing, yes. |
| 02:32.35 | bluspacecow | also that Apple Virtualisation thing you need to restart to use |
| 02:32.36 | Ghettogreen | my friend's dad got a brand new unibody Macbook Pro from his work. He installed Windows XP on it... |
| 02:32.36 | Dagmar | Wobin: Prop 8 is a bad thing that never should have been allowed to happen. |
| 02:32.37 | bluspacecow | something box ? |
| 02:32.41 | NightHawkTheSane | BootCamp? |
| 02:32.46 | bluspacecow | yeah ! |
| 02:32.47 | NightHawkTheSane | That's not virtualization. |
| 02:32.49 | Ghettogreen | No, just Windows XP. |
| 02:32.55 | Wobin | Ghettogreen: at least it wasn't ME |
| 02:32.55 | bluspacecow | yeah :( |
| 02:32.56 | NightHawkTheSane | You're ACTUALLY running windows on your machine with that |
| 02:33.01 | bluspacecow | i fail at descriptions |
| 02:33.10 | Dagmar | Wobin: Restricting the rights of minorities based on a _simple majority vote_ is bad, bad, bad. If it were kosher, DC, Atlanta, and Memphis could outlaw white people tomorrow if they liked. |
| 02:33.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Ghettogreen: i was responding to bluspacecow, but really? yeesh. |
| 02:33.24 | Wobin | Dagmar: I'd find that deliciously ironic |
| 02:33.28 | Ghettogreen | oh |
| 02:33.34 | Ghettogreen | yeah, I was pretty annoyed |
| 02:33.35 | Dagmar | Come to think of it, maybe DC outlawing white people isn't such a bad idea. |
| 02:33.41 | Wobin | from a "Haha, I'm waaay over here" sort of way |
| 02:33.50 | Ghettogreen | I told him to give it to somebody who could actually use it as a Mac |
| 02:33.59 | NightHawkTheSane | i mean, dual booting is fine, but ONLY booting windows on a mac laptop is a stunning waste of hardware |
| 02:34.01 | Ghettogreen | but he wouldn't give it to me ;) |
| 02:34.27 | Wobin | NightHawkTheSane: it's a -very- expensive PC then =P |
| 02:34.48 | Wobin | but then again |
| 02:34.51 | Wobin | he didn't pay for it |
| 02:35.16 | Wobin | so justification is moot, aside from moral objections =P |
| 02:37.35 | Humbedooh^ZZzz | while we're at it.. |
| 02:37.45 | Humbedooh^ZZzz | could we deport all the swedes in here to DC as well.. |
| 02:37.48 | Humbedooh^ZZzz | =] |
| 02:41.37 | bluspacecow | unplugged USB headset from HUB and plugged in directly to comuter now kernel_task is down to 4 - 7 % |
| 02:41.39 | Shirik | Cide you around? |
| 02:42.01 | Ghettogreen | Is it a Logitech? |
| 02:42.23 | Ghettogreen | because Logitech software sucks on Macs |
| 02:42.33 | Cide | Shirik: ya |
| 02:42.39 | Ghettogreen | I had that problem a while ago. I think there were some updated drivers to fix the problem |
| 02:42.54 | bluspacecow | it is but i don't recal installing any drivers for it |
| 02:43.06 | bluspacecow | was pissed about the whole LCC and Ape thing |
| 02:43.13 | NightHawkTheSane | bluspacecow: might be the hub thats the issue |
| 02:43.28 | NightHawkTheSane | or maybe some glitch with the connection through the hub. |
| 02:43.40 | Ghettogreen | I was pissed when the G13 came out and didn't support WoW, despite claiming that it does right on the box |
| 02:43.49 | Ghettogreen | it took Blizzard / Logitech over a year to finally support it |
| 02:44.04 | NightHawkTheSane | usb overdrive -> the last input device drivers you'll ever need. |
| 02:44.51 | bluspacecow | Logitech Control Center used to work via APE ... except they didn't put in the capability to update it |
| 02:45.58 | bluspacecow | ghetto can you remember what the drivers were ? name of the kernel extension ? |
| 02:46.46 | Dagmar | Dude, it's _not_ very hard to program in macros on their G-keyboards. |
| 02:46.47 | Ghettogreen | I don't remember the name but it was part of the LCC software before Logitech updated it and removed the file |
| 02:46.56 | Dagmar | ...and the "support" for the displays isn't entirely useful. |
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| 02:47.12 | Dagmar | Like, yay, it shows a bunch of numbers that are already on my screen to begin with. |
| 02:47.59 | bluspacecow | @ ghetto ... that might of been the APE issue ... they were installing an old version of APe that wasn't compatiable with the latest OS X at the top and was causing all sorts of problems for people |
| 02:48.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: or, alternately "yay, somewhere ELSE to look thats NOT my screen" >.> |
| 02:48.26 | Dagmar | The Ventrilo support is a hell of a lot more useful. |
| 02:48.31 | Dagmar | Seeing the name of who is talking is win |
| 02:48.44 | bluspacecow | mummble ftw |
| 02:48.46 | Dagmar | ...but as to the keys, they don't need support. |
| 02:48.55 | Dagmar | Mumble has the same plugin support for the displays |
| 02:49.15 | Dagmar | I seems they noticed a lot of people were rather upset about them changing the G15. |
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| 02:49.27 | Dagmar | They shuffled the numbers around and made a G510. |
| 02:49.33 | bluspacecow | really ? |
| 02:49.51 | Dagmar | http://www.slipperybrick.com/2010/08/logitech-gaming-keyboard-g510-debuts/ |
| 02:50.07 | bluspacecow | i thought people get upset at everything Blizzard does |
| 02:50.11 | Dagmar | it's even cheaper than the G15 was when it came out |
| 02:50.18 | bluspacecow | some blizz rep goes to teh can and there's QQ on the forums over it |
| 02:50.21 | Dagmar | No, upset at Logitech |
| 02:50.43 | Dagmar | About the only thing they've done that ever really upset me was nerfing Bestial Wrath |
| 02:51.03 | Dagmar | ...but it's not like hunters are burst DPS anyway |
| 02:51.06 | Dagmar | We fail at that |
| 02:51.16 | Dagmar | "non-stop ass-pounding DPS" tho we're good at |
| 02:51.32 | Dagmar | I blame whiny rogues |
| 02:53.02 | Dagmar | Imma snag a G510 to replace my G15v1 once Best Buy finally gets some in stock |
| 02:53.11 | Dagmar | ...cuz I wanna make it color cycle. :) |
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| 03:03.01 | Cidan | foxlit: Really. Just. |
| 03:06.25 | Cide | ScytheBlade1: ooooh |
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| 03:12.07 | Cide | anyone on us who wants to join for some sc2? |
| 03:13.29 | Wobin | Cairenn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMnpWYaCKB0 |
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| 03:28.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: ? |
| 03:32.17 | Cide | you should play with us |
| 03:32.50 | ScytheBlade1 | playing with a friend atm |
| 03:32.57 | ScytheBlade1 | placed 2v2 platinum, he has no idea what he's doing |
| 03:33.43 | Cide | well find another friend and we can do 4v4 |
| 03:34.37 | ScytheBlade1 | me+you+shirik+my friend? |
| 03:34.47 | Cide | no |
| 03:35.03 | Cide | me+you+shirik+your friend+shirik's friend+my friend+another friend |
| 03:35.16 | Thunder_Child | 7? |
| 03:35.28 | ScytheBlade1 | sounds hot |
| 03:35.30 | Cide | +amro |
| 03:35.34 | Cide | forgot amro -_- |
| 03:35.40 | bluspacecow | +another friend with huge boobs+another friend with large C___ |
| 03:35.58 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah I'll host the game up |
| 03:36.03 | ScytheBlade1 | ping me/suggest people |
| 03:36.06 | Cide | wait |
| 03:36.13 | Cide | you need to supply 3 people to do 4v4 |
| 03:36.16 | Cide | I thought you were only 2 |
| 03:36.21 | Shirik | eh? |
| 03:36.22 | Shirik | we doing 4v4? |
| 03:36.24 | ScytheBlade1 | don't we have enough here? |
| 03:36.26 | bluspacecow | sata clause Sychte ! |
| 03:36.32 | Cide | we're 7 with everyone accounted for |
| 03:36.41 | Shirik | problem is |
| 03:36.42 | Kraps | what about me? |
| 03:36.46 | Shirik | Nobin is in my room |
| 03:36.48 | Cide | are you joining Krap? |
| 03:36.49 | Cide | kraps |
| 03:36.50 | Shirik | so |
| 03:36.55 | Kraps | no |
| 03:36.55 | Shirik | he probably should be on my team |
| 03:36.58 | Kraps | i suck |
| 03:37.01 | Cide | who cares |
| 03:37.03 | Cide | it's fun |
| 03:37.08 | Shirik | ok :) |
| 03:37.21 | Shirik | sbo + me + cide + sbo's friend? |
| 03:37.23 | Shirik | That's kinda... |
| 03:37.26 | Shirik | OP? |
| 03:37.28 | Cide | I'm with shump |
| 03:37.30 | Cide | <3 |
| 03:37.33 | Shirik | ok |
| 03:37.43 | ScytheBlade1 | I've got it hosted! |
| 03:37.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Let's fill it up and see |
| 03:37.53 | Cide | invite me |
| 03:37.54 | ScytheBlade1 | an insane AI can always work okay |
| 03:38.00 | Cide | Cide#744 |
| 03:38.35 | bluspacecow | wait is this wow arena or SC2 ? |
| 03:38.38 | Cide | sc2 |
| 03:39.21 | Thunder_Child | pfft, i'll go play SC3 |
| 03:39.37 | Cide | tc or kraps |
| 03:39.39 | Cide | who wants to join |
| 03:39.43 | Cide | one more spot |
| 03:39.53 | Thunder_Child | a. i suck multiplayer b. i have work |
| 03:39.59 | Cide | c. fail |
| 03:40.02 | Kraps | ill go |
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| 03:40.06 | Cide | gogo |
| 03:41.07 | Cide | what's your friend code? |
| 03:41.11 | Cide | and identifier |
| 03:41.30 | Kraps | kraps 454 |
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| 03:59.18 | Kraps | protoss is op |
| 03:59.33 | Kraps | ima go qq now on the forums |
| 04:00.07 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: it's over already? |
| 04:00.41 | Cide | I top scored |
| 04:00.43 | Cide | I'm zerg |
| 04:00.45 | Cide | sup! |
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| 04:06.48 | Thunder_Child | i didnt know google bought aol. |
| 04:06.49 | Thunder_Child | what fail |
| 04:06.56 | Shadowed | what |
| 04:07.26 | Thunder_Child | http://www.scores.org/graphics/google/ |
| 04:07.47 | Thunder_Child | oh nvm, they are an investor |
| 04:07.54 | Thunder_Child | still, seems to be fail |
| 04:13.16 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: http://gizmodo.com/5622212/setting-a-canon-eos-5d-mark-ii-on-fire-for-no-real-reason |
| 04:24.56 | Thunder_Child | http://www.theonion.com/video/new-apple-friend-bar-gives-customers-someone-to-ta,17693/ |
| 04:27.37 | Kraps | ggs guys |
| 04:33.47 | Kraps | you started another? |
| 04:34.40 | Shirik | no Kraps :) |
| 04:34.59 | Kraps | had to bail suddenly |
| 04:36.27 | Kraps | you can also get a better player! |
| 04:41.37 | Kraps | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?sid=2000&topicId=26560769980 |
| 04:43.00 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: This video has been removed by the user |
| 04:51.00 | Kraps | you can preorder civ 5 on steam |
| 04:51.45 | Corrodias2 | for people who don't care how good it is before paying? ?_? |
| 04:52.18 | Kraps | you can say that about any preorder :p |
| 04:52.33 | Corrodias2 | and i do |
| 04:53.26 | Kraps | Shirik: how bad was i? |
| 04:53.32 | Shirik | not that bad |
| 04:53.48 | Kraps | i disagree |
| 04:53.51 | Kraps | ;) |
| 04:55.30 | kd3 | whee; my flight's changed. "(we have bolded the changes)". everything--seats, flight times |
| 04:55.33 | kd3 | at least not the airports |
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| 04:56.20 | Kraps | Shirik: why do i have a problem with mass-production? |
| 04:56.29 | Shirik | I would have to review the replay |
| 04:56.36 | Shirik | what's holding you back? |
| 04:57.26 | Kraps | i cant seem to get up to speed fast enough |
| 04:57.44 | Shirik | like |
| 04:57.47 | Shirik | is it resources? what |
| 04:57.52 | Shirik | why aren't you able to build |
| 04:57.57 | Kraps | could be |
| 04:58.08 | Shirik | well something's stopping you from building |
| 04:58.11 | Shirik | or you're simply not building |
| 04:58.15 | Shirik | in which case you need to click faster :) |
| 04:58.20 | Kraps | like, does everyone build 6 airports? |
| 04:58.22 | Corrodias2 | kd3: pray they do not alter them further. |
| 04:58.34 | Shirik | I usually have about 4 production facilities for whatever I'm building |
| 04:59.39 | kd3 | sighs |
| 04:59.50 | kd3 | boo! I lost my emergency row seat |
| 05:00.39 | Humbedooh^ZZzz | oh noes |
| 05:00.54 | Humbedooh^ZZzz | kids will be screaming and fat people will be squeezing you now! |
| 05:00.58 | Humbedooh^ZZzz | and coughing! |
| 05:02.03 | Kraps | Shirik: whens a good time for an expansion? |
| 05:02.14 | Shirik | 6 minutes in |
| 05:03.36 | Shirik | 6 minutes is kinda early |
| 05:03.38 | Shirik | but like |
| 05:03.41 | Shirik | no later than 10 |
| 05:03.52 | Shirik | the whole thing about an expansion is that you now have double the worker creation rate |
| 05:04.19 | Humbedooh^ZZzz | hmm |
| 05:04.39 | Humbedooh^ZZzz | I've come to the conclusion, that trying to make a script interpreter using regexp is quite horrific |
| 05:06.02 | kd3 | s/trying to make a script interpreter// |
| 05:06.25 | Humbedooh^ZZzz | ;o |
| 05:06.27 | Humbedooh^ZZzz | :p |
| 05:07.08 | Humbedooh^ZZzz | I'll just parse it one char at a time then.. ;< |
| 05:07.10 | Iriel | The usual mistake is to try such things using ONLY regexps |
| 05:07.31 | Iriel | Regexps make pretty decent tokenizers (next symbol) |
| 05:07.35 | Humbedooh^ZZzz | yeah it gets incredibly complex suddenly if you try that |
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| 05:32.57 | Kraps | Shirik: http://lifehacker.com/5624416/use-a-dab-of-vaseline-to-take-vintage+style-photos |
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| 05:39.23 | Jerub | finally got PP down |
| 05:39.54 | Jerub | i think the only thing i was doing wrong abom driving was you need to be dead center of the puddles. |
| 05:45.55 | Humbedooh^ZZzz | grats grats |
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| 05:54.07 | Jerub | ffs. |
| 05:54.23 | Jerub | crusader's dragonscale breastplate uses a superset of the mats for the bracers |
| 05:54.30 | Jerub | guess which dickhead crafted teh wrong thing |
| 05:56.40 | Humbedooh^ZZzz | :< |
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| 07:48.12 | harl | hi |
| 07:52.35 | sylvanaar | ive finally been able to develop addons totally within intelliJ |
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| 07:53.57 | sylvanaar | its taken 6-7 months to get to this point |
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| 07:55.40 | mikma | tekkub: http://www.scnsrc.net/films/bear-2010-dvdrip-xvid-taste/ |
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| 07:59.08 | Fisker | that's not how it works mikma |
| 07:59.34 | mikma | that's exactly how it works fucker |
| 07:59.56 | sylvanaar | ha |
| 08:00.24 | sylvanaar | the guy on the box is good looking - total fail |
| 08:01.20 | Fisker | DAMN |
| 08:01.25 | Fisker | http://www.wow-europe.com/cataclysm/_images/features/collector/backplate_large.jpg |
| 08:01.29 | Fisker | they fixed it :( |
| 08:02.10 | mikma | fixed what |
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| 08:02.46 | sylvanaar | yes do tell |
| 08:03.27 | Fisker | it used to say "The full world of warcraft expansion set on CD and DVD-ROM" |
| 08:04.25 | sylvanaar | cd lol |
| 08:04.34 | sylvanaar | maybe for the soundtrack |
| 08:06.09 | mikma | classic wow was on cd's :P |
| 08:06.15 | mikma | the collector's edition was on dvd |
| 08:06.37 | Fisker | and cds |
| 08:06.47 | sylvanaar | tbc too |
| 08:07.05 | sylvanaar | iirc |
| 08:07.12 | mikma | it was a nice surprise to find that all the wow's are in wotlk dvd |
| 08:07.21 | Fisker | yeah |
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| 08:18.35 | Humbedooh | wheeee |
| 08:19.02 | Humbedooh | now I can do incredibly simple spreadsheet macros in-game, yay |
| 08:20.58 | Humbedooh | so, I got hm.. max(), min(), sum(), abs(), ceil(), floor() for the spreadsheet...what else should I include? |
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| 08:21.34 | Humbedooh | hm, maybe an if() function... |
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| 08:50.51 | Humbedooh | By the beard of Zeus, it works! |
| 08:51.29 | Humbedooh | smellynaar! |
| 08:51.31 | Humbedooh | or someone! |
| 08:52.10 | Humbedooh | an if() function, should it just have one response, or both an if-response and an else-response... |
| 08:53.01 | Humbedooh | fx: IF( SUM(B1, B7) = 20, C2 * 5, C2 * 2) |
| 08:53.33 | Humbedooh | or IF ( D1 > 5, true, false) etc |
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| 08:57.36 | zenzelezz | man, I hate "survive X minutes" missions in RTS games |
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| 08:59.19 | olafski_ | +1 zenzelezz |
| 09:00.15 | Dagmar | wheee |
| 09:00.22 | Dagmar | 7/12 ICC downed |
| 09:00.26 | Humbedooh | grats! |
| 09:00.31 | Dagmar | MAJOR EYE STRAIN |
| 09:01.26 | Dagmar | The thing I"m most proud of is being #9 on damage taken |
| 09:01.54 | Dagmar | Oh, and finishing off Rotface myself. :) |
| 09:02.22 | Dagmar | I thinK I pretty much pushed every buttong at once there |
| 09:03.09 | Dagmar | I didnt even know if anyone else was left, just that he was at 2%, starting to run around, and I wasn't about to let anything stop me shooting. :) |
| 09:03.46 | Dagmar | I freaking popped deterrence, popped traps, and disengaged |
| 09:03.54 | Dagmar | heheh |
| 09:07.26 | Corrodias2 | congratulations |
| 09:07.37 | Corrodias2 | sounds like fun. man, those were the good moments. |
| 09:07.57 | Dagmar | The dragon murdered my eyes |
| 09:08.37 | Humbedooh | dreamwalker? |
| 09:08.41 | Dagmar | Yep. |
| 09:09.22 | Dagmar | It's freaking non-stop job of searching through all the spell spam for the right target, shooting until dead, repeat repeat repeat |
| 09:09.40 | Dagmar | ...but mainly just shooting until something more dangerous comes along, like those damn flaming skeletons |
| 09:09.45 | Humbedooh | meh, gonna rip off SciTE's descriptions of the Lua math functions for this macro manual |
| 09:14.35 | Dagmar | Use Wikipedia's. You can cite them |
| 09:15.34 | Humbedooh | wouldn't do me much good to cite them if I'm writing about macros that my own library interprets :p |
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| 09:55.38 | Humbedooh | mmmmkay then |
| 09:56.11 | Humbedooh | I gots max(), min(), abs(), sum(), list(), unique(), floor(), ceil() aaaand if() |
| 09:56.22 | Humbedooh | any other fancy rudimentary macro functions I should add? |
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| 10:00.22 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/08/28/funny-pictures-starcraft-2/ |
| 10:02.57 | Humbedooh | aaah, reminds me of that good ol' Space Odyssey quote ^_^ |
| 10:03.37 | Fisker | hey zenzelezz |
| 10:04.32 | Humbedooh | oh no |
| 10:04.37 | Humbedooh | you woke up Fisker |
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| 10:16.38 | Fisker | yes |
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| 12:18.59 | foxlit | wonders about the Votes header in the SC2 Waiting for players dialog |
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| 12:28.52 | Humbedooh | yawns |
| 12:29.34 | Humbedooh | bleh, POW(), ROUND(), LARGE(), LEN(), LN(), LOG(), MEDIAN(), AVG(), MODE(), SIGN(), SINH(), COSH(), STDEV(), TAN(), TANH() added to libspreadsheet....now I shall go nap |
| 12:32.20 | Fisker | POW! |
| 12:35.02 | foxlit | additional pylons, Fisker. |
| 12:43.09 | foxlit | Hrm, oops. |
| 12:43.18 | foxlit | I just played a rated 3v3 as if it was a coop match :/ |
| 12:43.39 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 12:46.40 | foxlit | Things felt wrong, but I figured I messed up difficulty selection or something |
| 12:46.41 | cbreak | foxlit: what's the diff? |
| 12:46.57 | cbreak | 3 people cooperate against 3 other things |
| 12:46.58 | foxlit | metagame. |
| 12:47.37 | foxlit | You can use a different set of shortcuts when playing against AI. |
| 12:49.28 | Fisker | once upon a time foxlit |
| 12:49.45 | Fisker | cannon rush foxlit |
| 12:53.56 | Fisker | cannon rush? |
| 12:56.56 | Fisker | CANNON RUSH |
| 12:57.24 | foxlit | Nah, Fisker. |
| 12:57.29 | foxlit | There's usually no need for such fiskering |
| 12:58.18 | foxlit | cbreak: stuff like deciding when to bother scouting |
| 12:58.46 | Zhinjio | I am frightened by the concept of "fiskering" being a verb. Partially because of ... well, just because. But also because it sounds like some malformed twisted combination of fisting and fingering. |
| 12:58.58 | cbreak | it's probably illegal |
| 12:59.03 | cbreak | at least in Utah. |
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| 13:02.27 | Adys | wow; youtube's new embedding finally respects html5 setting |
| 13:03.06 | cbreak | Adys: it works rather nicely on an iPad even |
| 13:03.13 | cbreak | so no flash! yay... |
| 13:03.20 | cbreak | (DIE ADOBE, DIE) |
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| 13:16.13 | Fisker | die apple, die |
| 13:16.23 | Fisker | rather than adobe atleast |
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| 13:19.42 | Fisker | Dotted |
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| 13:23.45 | duramar | is it possible to grab the current beta installer without logging into the blizzard website, from a mirror or a hotlink? |
| 13:23.54 | Kraps | sbo is ScytheBlade1? |
| 13:24.06 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 13:28.39 | Dotted | Fisker |
| 13:28.39 | Fisker | he is you Kraps |
| 13:28.41 | Fisker | Dotted |
| 13:28.45 | Dotted | Fisker |
| 13:29.04 | Kraps | is he me or am i him? |
| 13:29.06 | Fisker | Dotted |
| 13:29.11 | Dotted | no |
| 13:29.11 | Fisker | both Kraps |
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| 13:34.02 | Kraps | Fisker |
| 13:39.55 | Bruners | cbreak: are you for real? adobe are the good guys! |
| 13:40.21 | Bruners | Fisker: sup |
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| 13:55.15 | Fisker | sup Bruners |
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| 14:29.03 | Adys | http://developer.apple.com/legacy/mac/library/documentation/mac/QuickDraw/QuickDraw-461.html |
| 14:29.05 | Adys | weeps |
| 14:29.35 | nevcairiel | Don't weep at legacy documents, the new stuff is even worse |
| 14:30.36 | Adys | I do weep at legacy documents |
| 14:30.40 | Adys | I need to support this file format |
| 14:30.57 | Adys | who makes an image format that supports both vector and bitmap :/ |
| 14:31.09 | haste | looks fun! |
| 14:31.21 | nevcairiel | Apple believes in universal everything |
| 14:31.37 | haste | and quicktime :D:D:D |
| 14:31.39 | nevcairiel | lets bloat up one format instead of defining two clean seperate formats, booya! |
| 14:32.10 | haste | reminds me of the PDF support comment in some mac library |
| 14:32.38 | haste | s/PDF/PSD/ |
| 14:32.56 | nevcairiel | yeah, PSD is another of those bad formats |
| 14:33.03 | haste | http://code.google.com/p/xee/source/browse/trunk/XeePhotoshopLoader.m?spec=svn28&r=11#107 :D |
| 14:33.09 | nevcairiel | they keepin adding features, but don't want to part with their old format |
| 14:33.11 | haste | amazed I managed to find it again |
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| 15:20.23 | ScytheBlade1 | so I will likely be at 65h of work so far this week |
| 15:22.22 | Cide | funny |
| 15:22.34 | Cide | they bitch about psd and then go use obj-c |
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| 15:30.54 | cbreak | psd? photoshop format? |
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| 15:31.01 | cbreak | obj-c, programming language? |
| 15:31.03 | cbreak | can not parse. |
| 15:32.30 | Cide | it's kind of like how you would go about fixing the most shitty car ever with a fork |
| 15:32.40 | Cide | sure, the car is shit, but could you at least pick a better tool? |
| 15:32.52 | Cide | and no, I wasn't particularly serious |
| 15:33.52 | cbreak | Objective-C is the best tool for programming applications that are intended to use Cocoa/Cocoa-Touch |
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| 15:34.16 | Fisker | Kaelten is ill |
| 15:34.37 | nevcairiel | cbreak: that tells you something about cocoa |
| 15:34.49 | cbreak | yes... that it's an objective-c framework... |
| 15:35.23 | Cide | or that it's shit |
| 15:35.25 | Cide | either way |
| 15:35.57 | cbreak | I read some survey about programming language hate. |
| 15:36.05 | cbreak | seems most people hated C++ |
| 15:36.17 | cbreak | and visual basic. |
| 15:36.20 | cbreak | for some reason they liked python. |
| 15:36.28 | cbreak | wonder where that was... |
| 15:37.09 | A-KO | I've heard lots of good things about C#, but then I've heard some C/C++ purists despise it |
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| 15:39.12 | cbreak | http://www.tiobe.com/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html |
| 15:39.18 | cbreak | Objective-C is rising fast |
| 15:39.47 | cbreak | oh my... matlab is rising... |
| 15:40.11 | A-KO | Java... |
| 15:40.17 | A-KO | cries |
| 15:40.25 | cbreak | maybe because of android |
| 15:40.33 | A-KO | and other mobile platforms |
| 15:40.46 | A-KO | and the fact that it's like the first language all college students learn in comp sci |
| 15:40.49 | cbreak | many mobile platforms use s60/symbian |
| 15:41.00 | cbreak | we learned oberon first. |
| 15:41.06 | A-KO | how long ago was that? |
| 15:41.12 | cbreak | 6 years or so |
| 15:41.15 | A-KO | hmmm |
| 15:41.26 | A-KO | anyone around the universities here are all java-heavy |
| 15:41.31 | cbreak | a famous professor from my university developed oberon |
| 15:41.35 | A-KO | that might have changed |
| 15:41.45 | cbreak | we also learned tones of other languages |
| 15:41.48 | cbreak | including java |
| 15:41.55 | Thunder_Child | i learned VB first |
| 15:42.04 | cbreak | ... you poor child |
| 15:42.13 | A-KO | eh, nothing wrong with VB :P gets the job done! |
| 15:42.34 | cbreak | there are less painful ways |
| 15:43.10 | A-KO | if I ever decide to get into programming again, I'll probably go into C# |
| 15:43.22 | A-KO | I consider any software dev I learn to be EXTREMELY secondary to anything else I know |
| 15:43.25 | cbreak | ... why focus on a single language? |
| 15:43.51 | A-KO | because I spend so much time doing everything else that my brain cannot possibly stop to bother with that :P |
| 15:43.58 | A-KO | if I was focusing on programming, sure |
| 15:44.04 | cbreak | I only think about programming :) |
| 15:44.15 | cbreak | main languages I use are C/C++ though |
| 15:44.41 | A-KO | but software dev for me is a matter of necessity. I run into problems I can better solve with some light scripting/development than trying to do otherwise. |
| 15:45.09 | cbreak | then you should forget about C# and do it with a scripting language instead :) |
| 15:45.13 | A-KO | but I don't know anything beyond many scripting languages (vbs/powershell/lua/php) |
| 15:45.23 | A-KO | and I'd like to get a little beyond that, time and brain power permitting :P |
| 15:45.29 | cbreak | Python/Perl are very popular |
| 15:45.54 | cbreak | or JavaScript if you want to work inside a browser |
| 15:45.56 | A-KO | yeah, but I also function primarily in a Windows environment, so I haven't had as much need for those |
| 15:46.09 | cbreak | they work on windows too... |
| 15:46.16 | A-KO | sure, with extra stuff installed...heh |
| 15:46.31 | cbreak | for C# you need to install visual studio :) |
| 15:46.35 | cbreak | not sure how expensive that is |
| 15:46.42 | cbreak | maybe you can get some light version |
| 15:46.44 | A-KO | sure, but I separate that from the scrpiting languages, too :P |
| 15:47.09 | A-KO | what I'm saying is, say I'm running a network of 20,000 computers, need to script something--it makes no sense to work with python or perl when I can do it with vbs or powershell since that's built into the OS |
| 15:47.18 | A-KO | so it's more prudent to focus more effort into learning the latter 2 |
| 15:47.19 | A-KO | :P |
| 15:47.26 | cbreak | I did some things in powershell |
| 15:47.34 | cbreak | ... that syntax sucks so much |
| 15:47.48 | cbreak | like 30% cmd, 30% vbs and 40% /dev/random |
| 15:47.49 | A-KO | yeah, I'm not a huge fan of it--but I'm trying to overcome it, there are some things it does do so much nicer than vbs ever could |
| 15:48.00 | cbreak | oh, vbs is even worse imho |
| 15:48.25 | A-KO | powershell's exposure to WMI is what gets me to use it though |
| 15:48.28 | cbreak | on windows I still use cmd for rudimentary scripting |
| 15:48.34 | A-KO | I use a mix of the 3 |
| 15:48.50 | cbreak | not sure if powershell is already installed with windows |
| 15:48.53 | A-KO | cmd/vbs/ps depending on what I'm doing and what I've got at my disposal. I overwhelmingly use vbs though |
| 15:48.59 | A-KO | it is in 7/Server 2008 R2 |
| 15:49.48 | A-KO | unfortunately, vbs is the most widely used--and is more powerful than cmd |
| 15:49.59 | A-KO | as much as I hate that :( |
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| 16:02.34 | Shirik | Cide |
| 16:02.34 | Shirik | hi |
| 16:07.01 | Cidan | foxlit: So, my girlfriend totally loves OPie too. ha, :D |
| 16:07.30 | Shirik | unacceptable for you to have a girlfriend |
| 16:09.45 | Thunder_Child | unacceptable? or unrealistic? |
| 16:11.44 | Cidan | Ha |
| 16:12.04 | A-KO | what's a girlfriend? |
| 16:17.47 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/5621958/wesley-snipes-was-almost-geordi-la-forge-and-other-star-trek-tng-casting-fun |
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| 16:31.27 | Fisker | dick Shirik |
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| 16:33.49 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 16:33.50 | cog|away | sc2replayed = curse right? |
| 16:34.19 | cogwheel | who should i bitch at about something? :> |
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| 16:36.07 | Cide | me cogwheel |
| 16:36.26 | A-KO | hell hath no fury like a well-placed grenade! |
| 16:36.54 | cogwheel | Cide: my sarcasm detector is giving me ambiguous readings... |
| 16:37.16 | Cide | that's the best kind of sarcasm amirite? |
| 16:37.38 | cogwheel | only because i thought i remembered you working on something like it... |
| 16:38.02 | Cide | nah |
| 16:42.36 | Thunder_Child | cogwheel: #sc2mapster channel and look for an OP, they can prolly help you |
| 16:48.44 | Fisker | my penis is giving you ambiguous readings cogwheel |
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| 16:50.54 | Fisker | isn't that right NM|Xinhuan ? |
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| 16:52.06 | Xinhuan | zzz |
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| 16:58.28 | Fisker | Xinhuan |
| 16:58.30 | Fisker | confirm? |
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| 16:59.42 | Xinhuan | wtf is going on |
| 16:59.48 | Xinhuan | i can't login to my sc2 account |
| 17:00.06 | Fisker | is it because what i said is true? |
| 17:00.18 | Xinhuan | sc2.exe says battle.net has a temporary outage |
| 17:00.19 | Xinhuan | sea.battle.net says "service is not available" |
| 17:00.32 | Xinhuan | and us.battle.net says my account doesn't have a sc2 at all |
| 17:01.05 | nevcairiel | They don't like you anymore |
| 17:01.53 | Fisker | awesome |
| 17:03.22 | Maldivia | tried eu.battle.net then ? :) |
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| 17:06.09 | Iso` | Hi. |
| 17:06.41 | Xinhuan | i don't have an eu account |
| 17:06.55 | Maldivia | doesn't matter, they are all the same :P |
| 17:07.41 | Iso` | I'm crafting an AddOn right now, and I don't know how to add Icons to the MinimapTrackingDropdown frame. |
| 17:08.20 | Legorol | hey cogwheel: nice idea with your LFMF series |
| 17:08.20 | Maldivia | out of curiosity, why do you want to add something there? |
| 17:08.21 | Iso` | Btw, I'm also searching for an AddOn that will output a frame's infos (e.g. name / id / type /etc.) when clicking it. |
| 17:08.45 | Legorol | cogwheel: i'll watch it with interest, not to laugh at the fails but because it's nice to see someone dare to commentate their own games |
| 17:09.05 | Iso` | Just to add infos like pos. directly in the menu.. |
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| 17:10.33 | Maldivia | Iso`: for frame info, tried /framestack ? |
| 17:11.13 | Iso` | OMG. |
| 17:11.34 | Iso` | Well, I'm at the same time enthousiasted and desabused. |
| 17:12.28 | cogwheel | Legorol: thanks =) |
| 17:12.36 | Iso` | Thanks a lot Maldivia :) |
| 17:13.11 | cogwheel | but feel free to laugh at the fails too ;) |
| 17:13.45 | airtonix | no. |
| 17:14.58 | Maldivia | Iso`: and as for adding to the tracking menu, easiest is probably to post hook MiniMapTrackingDropDown_Initialize |
| 17:15.18 | Iso` | Wait, what? |
| 17:15.24 | Iso` | "post hook"? :D |
| 17:16.06 | Maldivia | hook the method so your code runs after (=post) the original code |
| 17:17.19 | Iso` | And how do you do that (excuse me for all these newbies questions)? |
| 17:17.21 | cogwheel | Legorol: you might like PsyStarcraft too. He covers a lot of his own matches and he's at the opposite end of the skill spectrum from me >< |
| 17:17.46 | Legorol | i watch a lot of day9, HD, husky and everyone from starcraft legacy |
| 17:18.05 | Iriel | Iso`: You can use hooksecurefunc("MiniMapTrackingDropDown_Initialize", YourFunctionHere) |
| 17:18.16 | Legorol | cogwheel: in your commentary you pointed out a lot of small mistakes, but there is one big mistake (which most new players do btw): you aren't spending enough |
| 17:18.18 | Maldivia | Iso`: easiest is probably hooksecurefunc("MiniMapTrackingDropDown_Initialize", function() codeHere(); end ) |
| 17:18.19 | Legorol | spend more, faster |
| 17:18.31 | Legorol | never mind counters, microing etc., you want to buy, buy and buy |
| 17:18.36 | cogwheel | yep |
| 17:18.36 | Legorol | this is a consumerist game |
| 17:18.49 | Iriel | Iso`: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/hooksecurefunc |
| 17:18.54 | Iso` | Thanks ;) |
| 17:19.26 | Iriel | Bookmark wowprogramming, if you haven't done so already 8-) |
| 17:19.26 | Legorol | cogwheel: i also saw that at one point you commented to yourself that maybe you should've expanded, but your main wasn't saturated yet |
| 17:19.43 | Legorol | for zerg, creating that first expo isn't about mining or saturation... it's the extra unit production |
| 17:19.52 | Legorol | with two hatcheries, you'd be able to spend all that money/gas |
| 17:19.56 | cogwheel | yeah, i just noticed that when i watched it again |
| 17:20.14 | Maldivia | Iso`: http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser/live/FrameXML/Minimap.lua <-- for the code that contains the MiniMapTrackingDropDown_Initialize function |
| 17:20.43 | Iso` | I've it in the \World of Warcraft\Blizzard Interface Data (frFR) too :D (yay, French) |
| 17:21.30 | Maldivia | they should hopefully be the same - basically only GlobalStrings differes between the differen localizations |
| 17:22.04 | cogwheel | Legorol: feel free to leave comments on the videos too :) Helps me not forget the things i need to fix |
| 17:22.05 | Iso` | Yep. |
| 17:22.13 | Legorol | cogwheel: sorry i should do that, yes |
| 17:22.16 | Legorol | just habit to type it here |
| 17:22.22 | cogwheel | knows the feelings |
| 17:22.27 | cogwheel | feeling* |
| 17:22.42 | Legorol | ~~ feeling in my fingers, feeling in my toe~~~~s |
| 17:23.00 | Legorol | ~~ love is all around us, |
| 17:23.00 | purl | okay, Legorol |
| 17:23.10 | Legorol | uhm.. what did i do |
| 17:23.11 | Cide | fail |
| 17:23.15 | Iso` | Humm, btw, how to be sure an addon script is called right after PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD? For the time I'm making an empty Frame registering the event, but I was wondering if there aren't a prettiest way to do this. |
| 17:23.19 | Cide | ~~ love |
| 17:23.19 | purl | from memory, ~ love is all around us, |
| 17:23.24 | Legorol | rofl |
| 17:23.24 | Thunder_Child | lay off the coke Legorol |
| 17:23.33 | Legorol | Thunder_Child: but but... then i get tingles 'n stuff |
| 17:23.35 | Cide | purl, forget ~ love |
| 17:23.35 | purl | i forgot ~ love, Cide |
| 17:23.38 | Iriel | Iso`: you're doing it the right way |
| 17:23.39 | Cide | ~~ love |
| 17:23.41 | Maldivia | Iso`: that would be the way to do it |
| 17:23.42 | Iso` | Okay. |
| 17:23.55 | Iriel | Iso`: Obviously if you have multiple events, use the same frame for all of them, but otherwise, you're good. |
| 17:24.04 | Iso` | Of course :) |
| 17:24.04 | Thunder_Child | Legorol: let me rephrase, lay off the coke while on irc |
| 17:24.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: but what about OUR entertainment? :P |
| 17:25.21 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane: you will just have to settle for all natual idiocy |
| 17:25.28 | Thunder_Child | natural* |
| 17:25.47 | NightHawkTheSane | true, we do have an overabundance of that here, i guess |
| 17:28.26 | Iso` | So I've got to overwrite GetTrackingInfo() ? |
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| 17:29.00 | Iso` | It would be way simpler, wouldn't it be? |
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| 17:33.06 | zenzelezz | it never ceases to amaze me how often a site gets stuck on loading content from static.someubersite.com |
| 17:33.20 | zenzelezz | I thought the "static" content servers were supposed to be the reliable ones |
| 17:34.01 | Shirik | actually I wouldn't be surprised if they were the slower ones |
| 17:34.14 | Shirik | because serving static content is easier (and more cachable) than dynamic content |
| 17:34.15 | zenzelezz | slower, sure. I'm talking reliable |
| 17:34.35 | zenzelezz | I don't mean that the loading slows down, I mean it hangs |
| 17:34.47 | Shirik | stop using crappy sites :) |
| 17:34.56 | zenzelezz | I try |
| 17:35.53 | Iriel | Shirik: Sometimes one can't help it, I know we have to yell at our partners sometimes to make them fix their infrastructure |
| 17:36.02 | Shirik | anyone here used ebay? How important is feedback rating? Like I know it's important, but is 99.7% bad? |
| 17:36.11 | Shirik | (that's like 30 "bad" reviews this month( |
| 17:36.21 | zenzelezz | Shirik: don't try to scam your buyers |
| 17:36.29 | Shirik | I'm the buyer ._. |
| 17:36.52 | Shirik | it seems to be a persistent theme of "slow shipping" |
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| 17:39.14 | zenzelezz | slow shipping or no shipping? |
| 17:39.27 | Iso` | Maldivia > I simply overwrote GetNumTrackingTypes and GetTrackingInfo, and everything's working fine :) |
| 17:39.39 | Iso` | It's WAY simpler than adding icons to the ShapeshiftBar. |
| 17:40.24 | Shirik | zenzelezz: slow |
| 17:41.15 | mikma | wtb the best party/raid unitframes |
| 17:41.44 | Shirik | so confusing |
| 17:42.57 | Shirik | Highlord Bolvar Fordragon: Opposing allies must attack if able and can attack only Bolvar if able. <p> Opposing cards and effects must target Bolvar if able. |
| 17:43.00 | Shirik | Bolvar, Highlord of Fordragon Hold: Untargetable. |
| 17:43.36 | NightHawkTheSane | they're two different cards? |
| 17:43.41 | Shirik | well yes |
| 17:43.43 | Shirik | but I mean |
| 17:43.49 | Shirik | they're the same guy |
| 17:43.54 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah :P |
| 17:44.01 | Shirik | you would expect that they do something similar |
| 17:44.10 | Thunder_Child | stop expecting things |
| 17:44.13 | Shirik | not EXACT OPPOSITES |
| 17:44.15 | NightHawkTheSane | you would, but then they'd just be reprinting the same card |
| 17:44.38 | Shirik | nothing wrong with making people pay more money :) |
| 17:45.22 | foxlit | Shirik: it is something similar |
| 17:45.32 | foxlit | They both mess with your ability to target things |
| 17:46.18 | Shirik | meh |
| 17:49.47 | Cide | wanna play Shirik? |
| 17:49.57 | Shirik | hm |
| 17:50.00 | Shirik | I need to find my authenticator |
| 17:50.22 | Cide | .. |
| 17:53.03 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:53.19 | Shirik | found it Cide |
| 17:53.24 | Fisker | damn |
| 17:53.25 | Fisker | i hate you |
| 17:54.30 | Cide | ok |
| 17:54.32 | Cide | give me a sec |
| 17:54.52 | Fisker | slaps Cide around a bit with a large trout |
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| 17:55.53 | Fisker | slaps Wobin around a bit with a large trout |
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| 18:00.19 | Cide | oh well let's go Shirik |
| 18:02.05 | Shirik | cide is so slow |
| 18:03.22 | Fisker | my worms hat Shirik |
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| 18:18.28 | zenzelezz | snipers and artillery... RTS <3 |
| 18:21.11 | Ackis | ~api GetSubZoneText |
| 18:21.11 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetSubZoneText |
| 18:21.18 | Ackis | !api GetSubZoneText |
| 18:21.28 | Ackis | no lua_bot |
| 18:21.37 | olafski | :( |
| 18:21.41 | olafski | grats on your achievement btw ackis!!! |
| 18:21.52 | Ackis | lol thanks olafski :P |
| 18:22.10 | olafski | I'm going to try to get a bit closer to 1k/1k in dante's inferno tonight |
| 18:22.44 | Ackis | I'm confused, I'm in a sub zone called Bor's Fury yet GetSubZoneText is returning "" |
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| 18:23.14 | foxlit | What makes you think you're in that subzone? |
| 18:23.41 | Ackis | big letters when I fly into it tell me |
| 18:23.42 | olafski | the text in the middle of the screen when he enters it I imagine :< is that not subzone? |
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| 18:24.22 | MoonWitch | is finally home. |
| 18:24.35 | olafski | gotta love how 20 seconds of killing 1 mob (including running from the questgiver and back) gives the same amount of xp as flying around for 5 minutes freeing 3 drakes |
| 18:25.05 | Ackis | same occurs in Mistcaller's Cave |
| 18:25.21 | Ackis | however the mini-map name changes |
| 18:25.29 | foxlit | There's GetMinimapZoneText, too |
| 18:26.10 | Ackis | yeah I've been playing with it as well |
| 18:29.19 | foxlit | Ackis: perhaps it changes GetZoneText instead, then? |
| 18:30.15 | Ackis | GetZoneText stays as Hrogathar's Landing |
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| 18:32.15 | foxlit | http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml/go/ZoneText_OnEvent is what should be displaying your center-of-screen text |
| 18:33.51 | amro | anyone here have a clue how to use vmware? |
| 18:34.21 | Maldivia | start it, create/load a vm, use it as you would a physical computer? |
| 18:34.54 | Thunder_Child | ^ |
| 18:35.03 | Thunder_Child | though virtualbox might be better |
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| 18:35.20 | Ackis | foxlit: right now I'm trying to understand code that's a year old that I neglected to comment on:( |
| 18:35.23 | Maldivia | Thunder_Child: well, the steps are the same for vbox :) |
| 18:35.58 | amro | Maldivia: I'm not even sure which package to get |
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| 18:36.02 | amro | their site is all corporate and shit |
| 18:36.56 | Maldivia | amro: get virtualbox then, it's free :) |
| 18:37.07 | olafski | wasn't vmware server also free? |
| 18:37.09 | olafski | maybe not anymore |
| 18:37.25 | olafski | the paid ones are "better", at least with vmware |
| 18:37.31 | Ackis | if I'm reading this code correctly ( which I'm not) I don't think the first part will ever be effective: http://paste.wowace.com/2380/ |
| 18:37.56 | amro | will give it a look then, thanks |
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| 18:50.41 | foxlit | Ackis: the first few lines seem fine |
| 18:51.13 | foxlit | subzone being "" and minimap being something fancy seems like it could happen |
| 18:52.07 | Ackis | in my test case, subzone was "" and minimap was that fury one, however it was loading the macro for the zonetext |
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| 19:10.07 | cogwheel | what's a song that epitomizes fail? |
| 19:10.13 | cogwheel | not the song itself failing |
| 19:10.25 | cogwheel | but the content of the song |
| 19:10.37 | cbreak | cogwheel: the funeral organ music thing? |
| 19:11.12 | cogwheel | i was thinking something lyrical. rock, pop, swing, something like that. |
| 19:11.15 | cogwheel | metal |
| 19:11.30 | cbreak | you count metal as lyrical? |
| 19:11.38 | cogwheel | depending on the singer :P |
| 19:11.45 | zenzelezz | he better |
| 19:11.48 | zenzelezz | Iron Maiden = win |
| 19:12.03 | zenzelezz | that's a scientific fact |
| 19:12.18 | cogwheel | i'm trying to put together an intro for my LFMF videos |
| 19:12.43 | amro | looking for major fail? |
| 19:13.21 | cogwheel | looking for background music to go along with clips of my zerg forces getting blowed up |
| 19:17.45 | Maldivia | cogwheel: Beck - Loser |
| 19:18.03 | zenzelezz | good call |
| 19:18.35 | Maldivia | to quote the chorus: "I'm a loser, baby, so why don't you kill me?" |
| 19:18.44 | cogwheel | yes. |
| 19:18.46 | cogwheel | perfect! |
| 19:18.48 | cogwheel | ty |
| 19:22.18 | Ackis | that's my song |
| 19:22.26 | Maldivia | if you want something a bit more optimistic, there's Queen - The show must go on |
| 19:23.20 | cogwheel | i'm going to use the Richard Cheese version of loser |
| 19:36.48 | cbreak | http://magnatune.com/, http://www.jamendo.com/ |
| 19:36.51 | cbreak | if you want it creative commons |
| 19:42.09 | cogwheel | i'll try my luck with fair use... it's only 21 seconds worth |
| 19:42.59 | cbreak | that's a quick failure. |
| 19:43.07 | Dagmar | http://www.todaysbigthing.com/2010/04/26 <-- probably completely inappropriate |
| 19:43.31 | cogwheel | cbreak: 12:13 < cogwheel> looking for background music to go along with clips of my zerg forces getting blowed up |
| 19:43.45 | cogwheel | it's just for an intro |
| 19:43.59 | cogwheel | a fail montage if you will |
| 19:44.19 | cbreak | sounds like a nerf call for terran. |
| 19:44.28 | cogwheel | no... |
| 19:44.33 | cbreak | good :( |
| 19:44.45 | cogwheel | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/627973469 |
| 19:46.50 | Dagmar | cbreak: I take it you've already considered Queen? |
| 19:47.07 | cbreak | cogwheel surely did :) |
| 19:47.32 | Dagmar | Still doing the caffiene intake thing |
| 19:47.50 | Dagmar | I'd have thought zerg and "another one bites the dust" would work fine |
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| 19:48.23 | cogwheel | Dagmar: that's a bit too one-by-one for some of the clips i have -_- |
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| 19:49.12 | Adys | Any dual screen windows user? |
| 19:49.19 | cogwheel | o/ |
| 19:49.24 | Adys | cogwheel: nvidia? |
| 19:49.31 | cogwheel | not anymore :( |
| 19:49.34 | Dagmar | Speed up pitch of sample, maybe throw in a Kenny "Oh my god!" |
| 19:49.36 | Adys | you used to? |
| 19:49.40 | cogwheel | ya |
| 19:49.59 | Adys | did you by any chance play portal, tf2 or games like that back then? |
| 19:50.02 | Dagmar | but then, you want BGM so that would probably not really qualify as anytihng but sound effects at that point |
| 19:50.06 | cogwheel | i played portal |
| 19:50.25 | Adys | cogwheel: do you remember what kind of resolution the game suggested? |
| 19:50.31 | Adys | as in: did it suggest shit like 3360x1050 |
| 19:51.00 | cogwheel | that's what happens when you use nvidia's spanning instead of windows' |
| 19:51.02 | Adys | or did you ever run into issues such as the game trying to play on both screens at once and being cut off one of them |
| 19:51.16 | Adys | hm ok |
| 19:51.41 | Adys | cogwheel: do you know if the game also proposed more sane resolutions? |
| 19:51.47 | Dagmar | If you enable twinview like a knob and have different res monitors that can happen |
| 19:51.47 | Adys | (for the record i think wow is affected) |
| 19:51.59 | Adys | Dagmar: my monitors are the same resolution |
| 19:52.08 | Adys | but i got pissed off by this for the last time |
| 19:52.17 | Adys | tracking it down and fixing it |
| 19:52.22 | Dagmar | No idea wtf was going on there then. |
| 19:52.29 | Adys | nobody makes me reboot because of a bug. |
| 19:52.30 | Adys | nobody. |
| 19:52.39 | kd3 | just side-steps the situation by sticking everything into a wine vdesktop |
| 19:52.40 | Dagmar | Adys: Except Microsoft |
| 19:52.41 | cogwheel | i never really had any problems like that. |
| 19:53.03 | Adys | kd3: yeah I'd do that but it gets annoying running regular programs into virtual desktops |
| 19:53.10 | Adys | and the env syntax is so awkward |
| 19:53.30 | kd3 | it's only games I do that for. most stuff -- mpqedit -- runs using xfwm |
| 19:53.40 | kd3 | but I don't need mpqedit running full-screen |
| 19:54.33 | Adys | hey kd3 you got a script to launch mpqedit right? |
| 19:54.35 | kd3 | oh wow... it's been 5 years since katrina |
| 19:54.57 | cbreak | lots of new and bigger natural desasters since then. |
| 19:55.19 | Adys | kd3: http://dpaste.com/235882/ im using this but i never got quoting nor space escaping to work |
| 19:55.24 | kd3 | http://wowi.pastey.net/140182 |
| 19:55.26 | Adys | which makes no fucking sense |
| 19:55.50 | kd3 | er, minus the cat line |
| 19:56.07 | Adys | mine supports unix paths |
| 19:56.16 | Adys | eg mpq /home/adys/foo/bar/blah.mpq |
| 19:56.42 | Adys | i tried to debug it for ages |
| 19:56.59 | kd3 | so does mine? at least for relative paths |
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| 19:57.11 | Adys | yeah relative only |
| 19:57.15 | Adys | well |
| 19:57.18 | Adys | depends |
| 19:57.35 | Adys | basically dolphin enjoys launching apps with the full path as arg |
| 19:57.43 | schomir | did someone of you successfully install the cataclysm beta on a mac system under mac os? |
| 19:57.47 | Adys | so when wine sees /home/adys it goes "LOL WTF" |
| 19:58.06 | kd3 | oh, huh. no, this is a command-line only one |
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| 19:58.12 | kd3 | almost never uses a graphical fm |
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| 19:58.29 | Adys | i use both |
| 19:58.29 | Adys | =P |
| 19:58.54 | Adys | also kd3 you'll run into trouble either way when you get odd filenames |
| 19:59.15 | schomir | kd3, wasnt it you that made ui diffs for the beta? |
| 19:59.27 | kd3 | yes. until blizz fixes the addon kit I can't send anything out |
| 19:59.37 | kd3 | it's not pulling the post-patch stuff since we've moved to the streaming client |
| 19:59.57 | Adys | kd3: i thought you were directly extracting? |
| 20:00.09 | schomir | can you extract it yourself with mpqeditor and patch mode? |
| 20:00.23 | kd3 | nope. for the mass emails I use the addon kit so I don't accidentally get data blizz doesn't want out publicly. |
| 20:00.26 | kd3 | >.> |
| 20:00.35 | kd3 | 's done that before, can you tell? |
| 20:01.03 | Adys | Uh. |
| 20:01.22 | kd3 | has ladik updated for the new patch mpqs? it's still not working properly for me |
| 20:01.26 | Adys | if they dont want it publicly they shouldnt put it in the most readable format ever |
| 20:01.28 | Adys | and yeah he has |
| 20:02.02 | schomir | i ran into the following problem on my mac: |
| 20:02.41 | schomir | the installer for the cata beta says it needs a cataclysm disc, but i dont have any, because i used the online installer |
| 20:02.52 | schomir | if i say abort, it says "temporary folder couldnt be created" |
| 20:02.58 | schomir | permissione rror |
| 20:03.03 | Adys | btw kd3; this guy had keyboard trouble on Worms Reloaded splash screen. I asked if he used an ATI card, turns out he does and laughs at me "Yeah yeah ati has problems but it's still just keyboard-related" |
| 20:03.05 | Adys | 2 days later: |
| 20:03.06 | schomir | it did ask for admin rights before |
| 20:03.09 | Adys | [05:45:54] <hifi> I'm starting to believe it has something to do with open gfx drivers |
| 20:03.10 | kd3 | checked beta mac tech support |
| 20:03.15 | kd3 | adys; rofl |
| 20:03.40 | Adys | http://dpaste.com/235780/ anyone has any of those patches? |
| 20:04.16 | Adys | http://www.lysator.liu.se/~zino/wow/ :o |
| 20:04.17 | Adys | the motherload |
| 20:04.32 | nevcairiel | WoW-4.0.0.12266-to-4.0.0.12319-enGB-patch |
| 20:04.34 | nevcairiel | that one i got ^ |
| 20:04.36 | schomir | kd3, is there an own forum for beta &mac? |
| 20:04.50 | Adys | nevcairiel: i can prolly download it but i wouldnt mind if you could send it |
| 20:04.55 | schomir | or just the general mac forum? |
| 20:04.57 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?forumId=7573591 |
| 20:05.09 | foxlit | http://survivingtheworld.net/Recitation68.html |
| 20:05.27 | nevcairiel | I also have every ptr patch since 3.0 |
| 20:05.39 | nevcairiel | but the stupid ptr patches are all named 0.x :P |
| 20:07.03 | Adys | yeha thats annoying |
| 20:07.11 | Adys | Im trying to finish my collection of the old exes |
| 20:07.23 | Adys | i like the new patch format |
| 20:07.27 | Iriel | You have the revision number for proper ordering. |
| 20:07.28 | nevcairiel | WoW-0.1.2.9889-to-0.1.2.9901-enGB-patch.exe |
| 20:07.30 | nevcairiel | that one i found |
| 20:07.44 | mikma | adys: the fucks, why do you need those patches? |
| 20:07.56 | nevcairiel | the cata patch there is like 500mb |
| 20:08.03 | nevcairiel | would take 3 hours with my current line to upload =( |
| 20:08.36 | Adys | nevcairiel: nvm the cata patch; but the ptr patch Im interested |
| 20:08.45 | Adys | mikma: better to have it than not to have it |
| 20:09.01 | nevcairiel | i started saving them with 3.0, but dont have anything before it |
| 20:09.28 | Iriel | I wonder how the new streaming client changes the world of patches |
| 20:09.33 | mikma | adys: dumfak! |
| 20:09.35 | Adys | adys@azura:~$ du -hs patches/ |
| 20:09.35 | Adys | 119G patches/ |
| 20:09.37 | Adys | tee hee |
| 20:09.38 | Iriel | I haven't looked under the covers too much |
| 20:09.39 | foxlit | The zergling rush achievement continues to be escape me |
| 20:09.44 | Adys | Iriel: it's awesome |
| 20:10.22 | Adys | Iriel: the game itself becomes the patcher; the only patch you get it one mpq for all the data, same one for all the regions including US and EU; there's another mpq for the client and critical files which is downloaded by the launcher |
| 20:10.27 | schomir | Adys why are you looking for these old files? |
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| 20:10.37 | mikma | du -hast |
| 20:10.49 | nevcairiel | found a second one in your list |
| 20:10.52 | nevcairiel | uploading |
| 20:11.21 | nevcairiel | the order on that list is really just random, is it not <.< |
| 20:11.25 | Adys | schomir: Maybe one day ill use them |
| 20:11.38 | schomir | use them to do what? ;) |
| 20:11.40 | Adys | nevcairiel: idk |
| 20:11.59 | Adys | nevcairiel: http://dpaste.com/235887/ |
| 20:12.06 | Iriel | Adys: but it does away with 'named patches' for game data, right? You just have whatever you've donwloaded in the override MPQ? |
| 20:12.22 | nevcairiel | hmm |
| 20:12.27 | Adys | Iriel: what do you mean? |
| 20:12.30 | nevcairiel | i must've missed the 3.2.2 ptr |
| 20:12.36 | Adys | you mean the good old patch-xyz.mpq ? |
| 20:12.44 | Iriel | yeah |
| 20:12.48 | Adys | yes, sort of |
| 20:12.54 | nevcairiel | you have wow-update-<revision>.mpq now |
| 20:12.56 | Adys | it's still possible if you got the right tools, just harder |
| 20:13.38 | Adys | Iriel: that said, currently the game has to patch things once per build and almost doesn't cache anything it patches |
| 20:14.16 | Adys | if you're logging in the game and it requests like 100 files, which is low considering the amount of shit you can get (dalaran live is probably like 2500 files) |
| 20:14.31 | Adys | it has to patch each one of these files once per build since 12694 |
| 20:14.37 | Adys | which makes the client stupidly slow |
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| 20:14.51 | nevcairiel | I'll probably always wait until its done |
| 20:14.53 | Adys | it's also not properly freeing these patched files from memory and writing them to disk, which makes the client crash with OOM |
| 20:15.10 | Adys | after like 1 hour |
| 20:15.24 | Adys | nevcairiel: you misunderstand |
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| 20:15.38 | Adys | nevcairiel: the game always patches, even once it reaches 100% |
| 20:15.46 | Adys | there is no patching done by the launcher, only download |
| 20:16.15 | Adys | once it replaces the exe and the dlls, it doesnt touch anything else than wow-update-xxxx.mpq |
| 20:16.36 | kd3 | hokay. looks like I got a valid diff, even though it's huge |
| 20:16.45 | kd3 | (1.5MB!) |
| 20:16.47 | nevcairiel | the overall mpq concept doesnt seem to have changed, old files don't get changed, new files provide replacements for the files in the old archives |
| 20:16.52 | nevcairiel | ~framexml |
| 20:16.53 | purl | Extract FrameXML using the official Add On Kit: (Mac:) http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/AddOnKit.dmg (Win:) http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/AddOnKit.zip ; or view it online at http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source or http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser |
| 20:17.01 | Adys | nevcairiel: the game is supposed to write its patched files to Data/Cache/blahblah.mpq but it doesnt do that properly |
| 20:17.05 | nevcairiel | hm, why is teks linked there, its out of date! |
| 20:17.16 | Adys | Iriel: and i suspect you can still override and do the equivalent of "named patches" by writing to the cache |
| 20:17.50 | nevcairiel | kd3: diff against what is that size? |
| 20:17.52 | schomir | ok i tried the suggestion to change permission on that mac installer like they suggested and it still doesnt work |
| 20:17.56 | kd3 | 12694 |
| 20:18.02 | kd3 | ->12803 |
| 20:18.03 | Adys | otherwise, what you want to do is diff the files from their latest build and create a ptch file, put it in the wow-update-xxx.mpq |
| 20:18.04 | nevcairiel | lets see |
| 20:18.07 | nevcairiel | creates diff |
| 20:18.14 | Adys | kd3: at least diff it per build :( |
| 20:18.20 | nevcairiel | http://github.com/Nevcairiel/wow-ui-source/tree/cataclysm |
| 20:18.22 | nevcairiel | l2git |
| 20:18.30 | nevcairiel | diffs for every build |
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| 20:20.36 | nevcairiel | i get 1.5mb when i diff against the pre-streaming version |
| 20:20.40 | nevcairiel | which was 12644 iirc |
| 20:21.00 | kd3 | which is the last build I sent out |
| 20:21.05 | kd3 | double-checks his diffing |
| 20:21.20 | nevcairiel | against 12694 is only about 950kb |
| 20:22.36 | nevcairiel | Adys: http://files.1f0.de/wow/WoW-0.1.2.9889-to-0.1.2.9901-enGB-patch.exe http://files.1f0.de/wow/WoW-0.3.5.12166-to-0.3.5.12196-enGB-ptr-patch.exe |
| 20:22.51 | Adys | got em both |
| 20:22.52 | Adys | thanks |
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| 20:23.33 | nevcairiel | wait i uploaded the wrong one, doh :P |
| 20:23.41 | Adys | er |
| 20:23.43 | nevcairiel | was meaning to upload WoW-0.3.5.12196-to-0.3.5.12213-enGB-ptr-patch.exe |
| 20:23.53 | Adys | the filenames are correct right? |
| 20:23.58 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 20:24.02 | Adys | k! |
| 20:24.19 | nevcairiel | you still need that one there? |
| 20:25.27 | Adys | uh yeah sure |
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| 20:27.56 | airtonix | would you say in terms of ORM that it is acceptable for a Person to have many Vcards, and a Organisation to also have many Vcards ? |
| 20:28.18 | nevcairiel | sure, why not |
| 20:28.28 | airtonix | ok so far so good |
| 20:28.34 | airtonix | but im sure im doing it the ugly way |
| 20:28.37 | Adys | airtonix: if the vcards are unique, I'd say it's better for a vcard to have an owner |
| 20:28.48 | airtonix | Adys, aha!, but |
| 20:29.17 | Adys | there's no but and I can't lie |
| 20:29.39 | airtonix | ok sure but, if you look at the vcard model here : http://dpaste.com/235894/ |
| 20:29.50 | nevcairiel | Adys: http://files.1f0.de/wow/WoW-0.3.5.12196-to-0.3.5.12213-enGB-ptr-patch.exe |
| 20:29.58 | Adys | got it nev |
| 20:29.59 | Adys | thanks |
| 20:30.20 | airtonix | you see i am doing it by providing optional foreign keys to both persons and organisations |
| 20:30.50 | airtonix | so if its a vcard for a org, only the organisation foriegn key is filled in.... but like i said.. its obviously the wrong way to do it |
| 20:31.03 | nevcairiel | that use-case is relatively badly supported by ORMs |
| 20:31.16 | Adys | it's supported by django |
| 20:31.22 | Adys | airtonix: look into django's generic foreign keys |
| 20:31.26 | Adys | that's what you want |
| 20:31.30 | airtonix | ok |
| 20:31.35 | Adys | owner = GenericForeignKey |
| 20:31.41 | nevcairiel | i looked at that feature once, it seemed somewhat complicated |
| 20:31.52 | Adys | it's simple once you get used to it |
| 20:31.53 | Adys | but |
| 20:32.03 | Adys | if you're into listing... it becomes hell, you need to optimize the sql and shit |
| 20:32.11 | Adys | i use it for http://db.mmo-champion.com/latest |
| 20:32.45 | Adys | this page is precached but it still generates a few thousand sql queries the first time |
| 20:38.34 | Adys | nevcairiel: this is my new list: http://dpaste.com/235899/ |
| 20:38.52 | kd3 | emails away, a month late |
| 20:39.16 | nevcairiel | yeah i don't have any pre 3.0 things |
| 20:39.37 | Adys | nevcairiel: got any enus? |
| 20:39.46 | nevcairiel | nop |
| 20:39.48 | Adys | or maybe WoW-3.0.1.8334-to-3.0.1.8391-enGB-patch.exe |
| 20:40.09 | Fisker | tralala i'll just run about a bit |
| 20:40.11 | Fisker | BAM SHOTGUN |
| 20:40.16 | nevcairiel | i lost all pre-3.0 live stuff |
| 20:40.17 | Fisker | rages |
| 20:40.35 | nevcairiel | only have post-3.0 ptrs and patches |
| 20:43.46 | airtonix | heh : bacon is a vegetable : http://www.djangoproject.com/documentation/models/generic_relations/ |
| 20:58.29 | Cide | hi Shirik |
| 21:00.00 | Fisker | slaps Cide around a bit with a large trout |
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| 21:10.19 | airtonix | Adys, so i would have : owner = models.GenericForeignKey() on the Vcard model object ? |
| 21:10.30 | Adys | something like that; one sec |
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| 21:11.43 | airtonix | im trying to make sense of this page http://www.djangoproject.com/documentation/models/generic_relations/ |
| 21:11.54 | Adys | airtonix: from django.contrib.contenttypes.generic import GenericForeignKey, GenericRelation |
| 21:12.03 | Adys | class Spell: required_for_achievement = GenericRelation("AchievementCriteria") |
| 21:12.19 | Adys | those are the relations |
| 21:12.39 | Adys | and this is another foreign key: http://dpaste.com/235916/ |
| 21:13.12 | Adys | you got one field that tells the content type (which table it points to), one that tells the id (which object it points to) and one virtual field that joins both |
| 21:13.17 | Adys | which is the one you want |
| 21:15.49 | airtonix | lines 3,4,5 are the ones your talking about ? |
| 21:16.52 | airtonix | i think its starting to make sense |
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| 21:39.56 | Adys | kd3, nevcairiel: http://paste2.org/p/968836 |
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| 21:43.09 | airtonix | Adys, ok so after looking at that and reading this : http://zerokspot.com/weblog/2008/08/13/genericforeignkeys-with-less-queries/ |
| 21:43.26 | airtonix | Adys, i have a question : why wouldn't i do model inheritance ? |
| 21:43.41 | Adys | er, dont ask me |
| 21:43.45 | airtonix | like : models (owner, Person(owner), Org(owner), vcard ... ) |
| 21:43.49 | Adys | also that article is neat, what i was looking for |
| 21:43.49 | Adys | thanks |
| 21:44.21 | airtonix | no worries |
| 21:44.33 | airtonix | i think i need to experiment |
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| 21:53.27 | airtonix | Weee! |
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| 21:54.13 | airtonix | this is what i came up with |
| 21:54.13 | airtonix | http://dpaste.com/hold/235931/ |
| 21:55.17 | airtonix | two things : 1) its easier for me to understand this way than using genericRelations 2) the admin interface for the Vcard presents the dropdown for the owner field containing all owners |
| 21:56.06 | Adys | WoW-1.12.x-to-2.0.1 |
| 21:56.09 | Adys | The largest patch ever to be released for World of Warcraft, v2.0.1 clears the way for the Burning Crusade Expansion with new talents, a honor system revamp, two new arenas and much more. Also available in French, German, Spanish, and UK English. |
| 21:56.18 | Adys | 492.2 MB |
| 21:56.19 | Adys | wuss. |
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| 22:00.29 | nevcairiel | ever to be released, up to that date :p |
| 22:01.54 | Cide | return u"%s" % self.name |
| 22:01.57 | Cide | why would you ever do that |
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| 22:03.43 | Adys | that's terrible |
| 22:03.55 | airtonix | because im lazy |
| 22:03.59 | Adys | nevcairiel: it just amazes me that what was the "largest patch ever" 3 years ago is now "barely a minor patch" |
| 22:04.10 | Adys | 4.0.0 -> 4.0.1 was 1.6GB after all. |
| 22:04.40 | Adys | airtonix: what? |
| 22:04.40 | nevcairiel | thats beta patches |
| 22:04.43 | nevcairiel | they are always big |
| 22:04.49 | Adys | nevcairiel: details. :) |
| 22:05.12 | nevcairiel | only the content patches are that big these days |
| 22:05.19 | nevcairiel | well most of the time bigger then 490mb |
| 22:05.52 | Adys | nevcairiel: WoW-3.0.9.9551-to-3.1.0.9767-enGB-patch.exe 746.3 MiB |
| 22:06.11 | Adys | and that's an incremental |
| 22:06.17 | nevcairiel | 3.0 -> 3.1 |
| 22:06.21 | nevcairiel | sounds like a content patch |
| 22:06.23 | Adys | yes, incremental |
| 22:06.45 | Adys | 3.0 -> 3.1 incremental; twice the size of 1.12 -> 2.0, full |
| 22:07.02 | nevcairiel | --> 492.2 * 2 |
| 22:07.03 | batbot | nevcairiel: > 984.4 |
| 22:07.04 | nevcairiel | wait |
| 22:07.06 | Adys | WoW-3.2.0-enGB-patch.exe; 1.6 GiB |
| 22:07.17 | Adys | that's full :) |
| 22:07.20 | airtonix | Cide, because it used to be something like : return u"%s.project-%s" % (self.client.name(),self.id) |
| 22:07.35 | Adys | airtonix: just make it return self.name |
| 22:07.45 | airtonix | yeah but then i have to type it all out again |
| 22:08.03 | nevcairiel | Adys: the patch you quoted as an incremental, 1.12->2.0, not 1.x -> 2.0 :D |
| 22:08.22 | nevcairiel | s/ as/ was/ |
| 22:08.42 | Adys | it wasn't, it was just named like that |
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| 22:08.54 | nevcairiel | yeah yeah, sure! |
| 22:09.33 | nevcairiel | anyhow, time for sleepzys |
| 22:09.35 | Kraps | doodoo doo doo doo |
| 22:11.29 | Kraps | http://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/un/day-against-nuclear-tests |
| 22:12.19 | nevcairiel | too bad, the 29th is over since 12 minutes |
| 22:12.39 | nevcairiel | +ago |
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| 22:13.53 | Kraps | not where i'm sitting |
| 22:21.29 | MoonWitch | ok I am stumped.. just not seeing it |
| 22:21.42 | MoonWitch | why isnt my runebar showing with oUF http://wowuidev.pastey.net/140189-3yyg |
| 22:22.26 | Shadowed | Wouldn't you want to anchor the intiial rune to self.Runes not self? |
| 22:22.56 | MoonWitch | good point -- (itÅ the last part of converting to 1.4) |
| 22:23.29 | MoonWitch | but still no dice :( |
| 22:23.47 | Shadowed | mmm |
| 22:23.52 | Shadowed | Looks like you aren't setting a height for your runes? |
| 22:24.09 | MoonWitch | self.Runes:SetHeight and self.Runes.height |
| 22:24.21 | Shadowed | No you set it for the rune container, but not each individual rune |
| 22:24.58 | Shadowed | Your rune container is also only has a height of 3, I'd imagine you want it to be higher? |
| 22:26.30 | MoonWitch | it was supposed to be tiny |
| 22:26.41 | Shadowed | ah |
| 22:26.54 | Shadowed | Height is the only thing that looks wrong though, I dunno if oUYF has some other weird magic |
| 22:27.36 | MoonWitch | tried : |
| 22:27.36 | MoonWitch | self.Runes[i]:SetHeight(3) |
| 22:27.37 | MoonWitch | self.Runes[i]:SetWidth(plWidth / 6 - 0.85) |
| 22:27.59 | MoonWitch | and with self.Runes[i].height (and the width equivalent) ... |
| 22:28.05 | MoonWitch | *sigh* |
| 22:28.14 | MoonWitch | but thank you Shadowed for checking :) |
| 22:28.18 | Shadowed | mmm |
| 22:28.26 | Shadowed | Try checking IsShown/IsVisible? |
| 22:28.34 | Shadowed | on the rune container and individual runes |
| 22:33.12 | haste | Shadowed: you use both index and i in that paste btw |
| 22:33.20 | haste | s/Shadowed/MoonWitch/ |
| 22:33.30 | Shadowed | that's a good point |
| 22:33.33 | Shadowed | how is that not erroring... |
| 22:33.43 | haste | and you need to set width and height yourself, and position |
| 22:33.59 | MoonWitch | yeah I know ... |
| 22:34.03 | haste | .{width,growth,height} was removed |
| 22:34.12 | MoonWitch | I tried with and without |
| 22:34.25 | MoonWitch | or do I need them for self.Runes[i] as well |
| 22:34.50 | haste | self.Runes[i] is what they were used for |
| 22:34.53 | haste | so yes |
| 22:35.13 | haste | I removed all position and growth handling from oUF, as the layout can do it better :P |
| 22:36.13 | haste | but now it's time for sleep, getting up in 5h :( |
| 22:36.15 | haste | gn |
| 22:36.18 | MoonWitch | yeah... that is the only thing I hadnt converted |
| 22:36.24 | MoonWitch | thanks and sweet dreams Haste |
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| 22:45.01 | cogwheel | Maldivia: ping |
| 22:48.16 | cogwheel | zenzelezz: Dagmar: cbreak: here's what i came up with: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CWkG0nvAws |
| 22:49.21 | cbreak | strangely fitting :) |
| 22:49.55 | cbreak | I don't like that blizzard's UI shows the real name of the account owner |
| 22:50.28 | Shirik | so |
| 22:50.34 | Shirik | realid has this "broadcast message" thing |
| 22:50.34 | cogwheel | i'm already associated with my real name so it's no biggie to me |
| 22:50.39 | Shirik | which is pretty cool |
| 22:50.47 | Shirik | except that I'm now in a 6-person conversation over it |
| 22:50.57 | Shirik | discussing the sexual preferences of Vin Diesel and Orlando Bloom |
| 22:50.58 | airtonix | plus us |
| 22:52.00 | Dagmar | Dear god. |
| 22:52.16 | Dagmar | Yeah I guess it's appropriate |
| 22:52.49 | Dagmar | Being that my general idea of music could easily involve something that sounds like chainsaws with rabies, that was a bit of a shock tho |
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| 22:52.57 | Dagmar | heh |
| 22:53.38 | cogwheel | <3 richard cheese |
| 22:53.46 | cogwheel | have you heard his version of down with the sickness? |
| 22:53.56 | Dagmar | I'm not sure I could withstand that |
| 22:54.31 | cogwheel | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2704914069624298394# |
| 22:54.56 | cogwheel | nsfw if you have speakers and uptight coworkers |
| 22:55.38 | Dagmar | Yeah I'm going to go scrub my ears with some modulated static now |
| 23:03.09 | Kraps | wow, need to send that to me brother |
| 23:03.55 | Kraps | hes a huge disturbed nerd |
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| 23:21.47 | Adys | http://www.ravendas.com/patches/WoW/ |
| 23:21.48 | Adys | sweet |
| 23:24.14 | amro | ~ping |
| 23:24.14 | purl | ~pong |
| 23:25.35 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1 |
| 23:25.39 | Shirik | you around? |
| 23:29.53 | Wobin | Shirik: broadcast message? |
| 23:30.07 | Wobin | that broadcasts across -all- your realid contacts? |
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| 23:32.26 | Shirik | yes Wobin |
| 23:33.16 | Wobin | Shirik: wouldn't a resultant conversation only really work if everyone had the same realid contacts? Or are you in six different conversations? |
| 23:33.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: what |
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| 23:58.29 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: was going to ask for a game but too late |
| 23:58.32 | Shirik | Wobin: Exactly |
| 23:58.36 | Shirik | and we all do :P |
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