| 00:00.07 | Cidan | why for you hate, kd3? |
| 00:00.20 | Synycyl | Cidan: I can't be doing to bad... last time I checked curse Skill Helper had 322 downloads and 4 stars... With a developer reported known bug lol |
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| 00:00.28 | Amarande | other mysteries of wow ... why does the oracle egg have a level requirement on it? |
| 00:00.35 | Amarande | particularly when that level requirement is 70 |
| 00:00.39 | Synycyl | Cidan: only been up 2 or 3 weeks at most |
| 00:00.46 | Cidan | Synycyl: Well done, :D |
| 00:00.51 | Amarande | you can't really even GET revered with oracles till you're around 79-80. :) |
| 00:01.57 | Synycyl | I do think it needs more asthetics which I will work on later... for now I've gotten a few compliments for it from people on my server! |
| 00:02.08 | Bruners | Amarande: flying mount = 70 ? |
| 00:02.41 | Amarande | you know, a fair number of BC bosses are actually easier solo, come to think of it |
| 00:02.46 | Amarande | since a handful used MC mechanics |
| 00:02.48 | kd3|netbook | oh, oops. two copies of xchat |
| 00:02.52 | Amarande | and mobs won't MC if there's only one target |
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| 00:03.58 | Cidan | My new girlfriend is so much better than my old one |
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| 00:04.03 | Cidan | She totally kicks ass at PvP. |
| 00:04.17 | Cidan | Just thought I'd put that out there |
| 00:04.21 | Cidan | PvP is important. |
| 00:04.43 | Bruners | if you play PvP with her i guess that is a good thing |
| 00:04.57 | Amarande | PvP? Important? :) |
| 00:05.05 | Xyphoid | Amarande: yeah, if we're doing aq40 i go in solo for the first boss |
| 00:05.10 | Amarande | Well, I guess if it's what helps you spend more time with your love, that's good |
| 00:05.17 | Amarande | but that's because love and common ground are important |
| 00:05.18 | Amarande | not PvP |
| 00:05.20 | Amarande | heh |
| 00:05.41 | Cidan | Pssh, I'm a manly man, I don't care about feelings! |
| 00:05.47 | Cidan | I kid, I kid. |
| 00:06.39 | Synycyl | would table1 = table2 over write any data in table2 or append the data to table2.... |
| 00:07.02 | Cidan | overwrite |
| 00:07.14 | KarlKFI|work | technically neither |
| 00:07.19 | Synycyl | does evil hand rub "GOOD! GOOD!" |
| 00:07.25 | Cidan | well no |
| 00:07.27 | Cidan | you're right |
| 00:07.29 | Cidan | neither |
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| 00:07.31 | Synycyl | GAH technicalities ruin the evilness |
| 00:07.37 | Cidan | you just lose reference to table2 |
| 00:07.41 | Cidan | from that variable |
| 00:07.43 | KarlKFI|work | it jsut overwrittes the reference. |
| 00:07.49 | Cidan | Think C pointers |
| 00:08.02 | Cidan | You can have more than one reference to an object |
| 00:08.13 | Cide | never think C pointers |
| 00:08.16 | KarlKFI|work | if table1 is referenced elsewhere by another variable it will be unaffected |
| 00:08.34 | Cidan | Always think C pointers, even when you work with managed languages. |
| 00:08.48 | Synycyl | right I think it is still what i want... |
| 00:08.58 | Synycyl | One way to find out lol |
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| 00:09.11 | Synycyl | debugging prints FTW |
| 00:09.40 | KarlKFI|work | it overwrittes you're variable reference to the original table, but it doesn't actually modify or append to the original table or its data |
| 00:10.37 | Cidan | It also slices, it dices! |
| 00:10.52 | KarlKFI|work | and makes julian fries |
| 00:10.57 | Cidan | Yesss! |
| 00:10.58 | KarlKFI|work | it will not break... |
| 00:11.06 | alestane | ... |
| 00:11.09 | alestane | ...it broke. |
| 00:11.14 | Wobin | anyone have a link to the youtube of that Caty dragon that is utterly camp? |
| 00:11.47 | KarlKFI|work | thibt! Still Good! |
| 00:12.56 | Arrowmaster | hey does chrome have a feature to sync bookmarks between different computers? |
| 00:13.02 | Cidan | It sure does |
| 00:13.11 | Cidan | Through your google account |
| 00:13.12 | Wobin | or even what the name of the dragon is? |
| 00:13.23 | Arrowmaster | good ill just install chrome on my dads desktop then |
| 00:13.34 | Arrowmaster | then put it on his laptop |
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| 00:15.53 | Lunessa | Make sure he names the porn links something inconspicuous. |
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| 00:16.17 | Cidan | I have to say, for source control, I've fallen in love with bzr. |
| 00:17.22 | Cide | wtb Shirik pst |
| 00:19.52 | Lunessa | alestane: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/8/23/ |
| 00:21.10 | Xyphoid | that's such a true comic |
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| 00:23.31 | Cidan | I haven't read a single PA this year. Time to catch up |
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| 00:36.28 | Dagmar | Cidan: WTF kind of gamer are you? |
| 00:37.08 | Jerub | one who doesn't appreciate half told in jokes about obscure games that just came out? |
| 00:37.21 | Jerub | (i only read pa for the art) |
| 00:37.56 | Synycyl | always been a /gu fan myself |
| 00:38.55 | Thunder_Child | Dagmar: i have limited time, so i would rather play games then read PA |
| 00:43.06 | Shirik | Cidan: You should play the WoW TCG |
| 00:45.06 | alestane | I'm on firmer ground with Tycho's stance than Gabe's, there, I think. |
| 00:45.33 | Shirik | hrm |
| 00:45.36 | alestane | From what little I've seen of Essentials, it doesn't actually look bad; in fact, parts of the previews were quite promising. |
| 00:45.40 | Shirik | configure has been stuck on this step forever: "checking for ICMP ping syntax..." |
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| 00:46.01 | alestane | And it has the advantage of being based on the same underlying rules architecture as the main 4E. |
| 00:46.34 | alestane | But it also seems just different enough that I wouldn't really want to mix them, and people are likely to get confused moving between them. |
| 00:46.44 | Cidan | Shirik: I still have to get back into Magic, :( |
| 00:46.52 | Cidan | Though I dunno, maybe Ally would like it... |
| 00:46.54 | Shirik | WoW TCG |
| 00:47.01 | Shirik | and you can help me with this program at the same time |
| 00:47.21 | Cidan | Ha |
| 00:51.15 | Synycyl | damn not copying data from one table to another... hrm.... |
| 00:51.44 | Cidan | You have to deep copy, get every key in the table, loop through, etc |
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| 00:53.32 | Synycyl | I am... for i=1, #(prevSkills) do { currentSkills[i] = prevSkills[i]; print(currentSkills[i] .. " detected"); end I'm using braces and semicolons here only so i don't have to make a pastey just for that little shit lol |
| 00:54.55 | Cidan | do a pairs loop |
| 00:55.29 | Synycyl | runs off to read pairs again |
| 00:56.25 | alestane | To do a full copy, it's more common to do something like [[function deepCopy(t) new = {} for k, v in pairs(t) do if type(v) == 'table' then new[k] = deepCopy(v) else new[k] = v end return new end]] |
| 00:56.53 | Arrowmaster | which is great fun when you create a recursive table |
| 00:57.35 | alestane | There is a more sophisticated deepCopy out there, yes. |
| 00:58.34 | Synycyl | Actually its a copy pasta that will happen after a quick validator is done... nothing too complex there really, just need the data to copy/overwrite the prevSkills{} from the currentSkills one after validation... |
| 00:58.44 | Cidan | I have now read every Penny Arcade released this year... I am... unimpressed. |
| 00:58.55 | Cidan | I remember why I stopped reading it, ha. |
| 00:58.56 | Synycyl | lawlz at Cidan |
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| 01:05.24 | Cidan | God I hate Solr |
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| 01:14.09 | Synycyl | Ok I'm getting pissed at Lua now... time to put down the programming for a bit... sipmle language... bit of a simpleton too |
| 01:20.27 | DWSR | I get pissed at Lua because it's not Perl. |
| 01:20.29 | DWSR | But that's me. |
| 01:20.55 | Lunessa | DWSR: You wash your mouth out with soap right now. |
| 01:22.04 | DWSR | Is B.net being gay? |
| 01:22.11 | DWSR | Lunessa: Hush now. |
| 01:22.14 | DWSR | It'll all be over soon |
| 01:22.56 | DWSR | And by gay I mean not letting me log into my precious precious SC2. |
| 01:23.35 | Bruners | why bother with SC2 when you have SC |
| 01:24.08 | DWSR | Because you can't get chrono boost or warpgates in SC? |
| 01:24.18 | DWSR | WARP PRISM LOLSURPISEATTACK |
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| 01:27.09 | Cidan | Can you fly in the blood elf starting zone in Cata? |
| 01:29.54 | Cidan | No one knows? |
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| 01:32.22 | Cidan | :( |
| 01:34.08 | alestane | haven't had reason to check yet. |
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| 02:08.39 | alestane | Right now in the Ghostlands, Cidan, I can summon my flying mount but not get airborne. It behaves like a ground mount. |
| 02:09.56 | Amarande | alestane: btw |
| 02:10.00 | Amarande | is epic flying any cheaper in cata? |
| 02:10.04 | Amarande | or is it still 4000 with faction discount? |
| 02:10.13 | alestane | No clue. |
| 02:10.40 | Amarande | and I still wish guild names could have ` or ' in them :( |
| 02:10.51 | Amarande | there are so many good guild names that fall flat without it :( |
| 02:13.09 | alestane | Looks like they're purging the world PvP in EPL. |
| 02:13.23 | Amarande | Meh was there any point to it anyway? |
| 02:13.41 | Amarande | BTW, are they changing that one quest at Uther's tomb or whatever it is to remove PvP from it as well? |
| 02:14.24 | alestane | ?¿ |
| 02:15.34 | alestane | (In other words, I have no idea.) |
| 02:15.38 | Amarande | alestane: there's one horde quest you can get at the bulwark that involves defiling Uther's tomb |
| 02:15.43 | Amarande | while not STRICTLY PvP related |
| 02:15.52 | Amarande | there's one NPC there who WILL attack you, and who is Alliance PvP flagged |
| 02:16.03 | Amarande | therefore, doing it without getting flagged is ... difficult at best :) |
| 02:16.14 | alestane | I don't have any Horde characters that I could transfer what would be of a sufficient level. |
| 02:16.34 | Amarande | (I think you *can* do your thing without fighting back, but ...) |
| 02:16.37 | alestane | But they're dropping WPL to about 42-45, so most of the quests are getting redone. |
| 02:16.47 | Amarande | speaking of which, are they fixing the inconsistencies in PvP flagging, either? |
| 02:17.00 | Amarande | I've noticed it seems to vary quite wildly depending on where you are |
| 02:17.21 | alestane | EPL is wholly reconstructed as far as I can tell. The towers are now AD flight points and quest hubs. |
| 02:17.25 | Amarande | In Old World or Outland, you don't flag, even passing through an opposite faction's base, unless you enter a capital or actually damage a flagged NPC |
| 02:17.49 | alestane | On PvE servers, I believe that's how it's always been. |
| 02:18.06 | Amarande | In Northrend though you apparently flag *on aggro* from opposite faction guards, even if they never get close enough to lay a finger on you |
| 02:18.18 | Amarande | I definitely remember it being the case in HF. |
| 02:18.44 | Amarande | I'm wondering why they did it that way for Northrend specifically (and whether they're going to unify the behavior for Cata) :S |
| 02:19.13 | Amarande | although it does seem like they're trying to increasingly push people to PvP, and maybe that's part of why they do that |
| 02:19.47 | Amarande | yeah maybe I'm reading too much into that 'increasing push' but it does at least look that way |
| 02:20.32 | Dagmar | More than likely it was just an attempt to give players a chance to actually defend those locations. |
| 02:20.40 | alestane | Well, in terms of story there's definitely more faction tension in Cata. |
| 02:20.53 | Amarande | Outland, for instance, having bigger rewards for the world pvp stuff than Old World ever did (Spirit shards, Halaa, etc.) |
| 02:21.09 | alestane | Grommash and Varian are both on-edge and ready to start a war at the drop of an insult. |
| 02:21.13 | Amarande | Then in Northrend, you have WG and a whole PvE *raid* that's based on winning a PvP contest |
| 02:21.15 | kd3 | that's because they didn't know how to institutionalize world pvp back in classic |
| 02:21.16 | alestane | Garrosh, rather. |
| 02:21.20 | kd3 | sandlol |
| 02:21.32 | Amarande | And in Cata, I understand we have Tol Barad, which is both a *major daily hub* in addition to being the new WG |
| 02:21.58 | Dagmar | You can't really send in a decoy/birdie to draw guards out with no real risk, if everyone gets flagged the moment a guard gets a good look at everyone |
| 02:22.04 | Amarande | which is probably going to put a fairly significant amount of pressure on people to PvP, particularly if the other dailies are as scattered as they were in LK |
| 02:22.17 | Kandoko | Thanks alestane, hrm guess I could have asked in here rather than in game :P |
| 02:22.27 | Dagmar | Amarande: To PvP or _to not be dicks to each other_ |
| 02:22.35 | Amarande | Dagmar: yeah, but if you actually *attack* the place, you're still going to get flagged. |
| 02:22.37 | alestane | I just get nervous when I see completely unfamiliar names asking for things. |
| 02:22.56 | Kandoko | True, esp with guild perks and all now. |
| 02:23.00 | Amarande | Flag on aggro just causes more tension for people who want to simply PvE quest, especially with how faction bases are placed in Northrend. |
| 02:23.01 | Dagmar | Amarande: Yeah but if you're flagged by guard aggro, that eliminates the "attacker gets first licks" issue |
| 02:23.15 | Lunessa | World PvP in classic sucked - even on a PVP server. It was basically mobbing up to kill people wimpier than you |
| 02:23.33 | Amarande | Dagmar: attacker gets first licks has always been an issue and always will be on PvE servers |
| 02:23.46 | Dagmar | Not when guard aggro flags everyone |
| 02:23.53 | Amarande | remember, the first person interested in PvP ... flags first. |
| 02:24.07 | Dagmar | No, the person who thinks they'll win flags first |
| 02:24.22 | Dagmar | The people who think they might be outnumbered could just stay out of it until NR |
| 02:24.28 | Lunessa | The guy who flags first gets sucker-punchedc |
| 02:24.40 | Amarande | The point is, one person has to flag first - but the other person gets to ATTACK first |
| 02:24.50 | Bruners | always be flagged, problem solved |
| 02:24.53 | Dagmar | Yes, that doesn't happen in NR |
| 02:25.09 | Dagmar | Guard aggros vulture group, vulture group is flagged, defenders can do something |
| 02:25.28 | Dagmar | Until that change the vulture group could just sacrfice their puller and wander off |
| 02:25.48 | Amarande | OTOH, it caused potential issues for people who just wanted to quest, back when LK was new particularly |
| 02:25.50 | Amarande | I mean, consider this |
| 02:25.52 | Xyphoid | i have been flagged by stonard guards attacking me |
| 02:25.54 | Xyphoid | without fighting back |
| 02:26.07 | Amarande | you're Horde, and you're trying to get back to dammit what was the name of that outpost near the north central end of HF ... Camp Winterhoof? |
| 02:26.08 | kd3 | attacking? hell. I got flagged just by flying over stonard |
| 02:26.14 | Dagmar | Xyphoid: You're not the only person I've heard that from about that location |
| 02:26.19 | Dagmar | ...which is just odd. |
| 02:26.43 | Amarande | It's SO easy to aggro a guard from the nearby Alliance fort that's just east of that while you're getting back. |
| 02:26.58 | Amarande | Without even knowing there WAS a guard there, since you're probably on your 100% mount (which can outrun them with ease) |
| 02:27.16 | Amarande | however, that still means that's five minutes now where you're easy pickins for any mid 70s alliance toon who wants a little extra honor |
| 02:27.27 | Xyphoid | it's not like being ganked is the end of the world though |
| 02:27.37 | Dagmar | It's the end of your questing generally |
| 02:27.48 | Kraps | season 3 down |
| 02:27.54 | Dagmar | ...because J. Random Asshole will almost certainly camp the area you're trying to get through or to |
| 02:28.41 | Dagmar | So who else suspects Chile is about to dig up a bunch of zombie miners? |
| 02:28.52 | Amarande | I think that particular spot's probably the only one where it ever really becomes an issue, though |
| 02:29.02 | Dagmar | I'm buying shotguns if I hear even ONE fishy report out of there |
| 02:29.07 | Amarande | And oddly enough I'm not even sure that behavior is CONSISTENT in Northrend which is really odd |
| 02:29.11 | Kraps | season 4: WILLOW HAS AN AWESOME HAIRCUT |
| 02:29.24 | Amarande | I don't remember constantly getting PvP flagged when I got too close to that one alliance outpost right south of Azjol-Nerub |
| 02:29.36 | Amarande | and I almost ran straight into there more times than I can remember :P |
| 02:29.45 | alestane | Star's Rest? |
| 02:29.48 | Amarande | Yeah, that one. |
| 02:30.04 | Dagmar | Amarande: Being that I've both gotten flagged for going near Stonard as well as *not* gotten flagged, I'm not convinced it's not a bug |
| 02:30.28 | Amarande | Dagmar: Yes, Blizzard has had a terrible track record fixing bugs in LK :( |
| 02:30.37 | Amarande | In particular, if the bug DOES NOT BENEFIT the player, they seem to back burner it badly |
| 02:30.44 | Amarande | if the bug benefits the player at all then they go all out to fix it |
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| 02:30.48 | Dagmar | Not true. |
| 02:30.49 | Amarande | case in point: PoS vs. HoR |
| 02:31.09 | Amarande | PoS has had, and STILL has, the bug where attacking Tyrannus rather than letting him have first licks bugs up the instance until it is reset |
| 02:31.28 | Amarande | HoR's bugs, on the other hand, if they can be called that, have centered around tricks that made it too easy to succeed at surviving the Lich King |
| 02:31.30 | Xyphoid | they still haven't fixed despawning hadronox and that's a player advantage bug |
| 02:31.31 | Dagmar | There's a bug with channeled device-granted spells that's still in there, and easily testable out in that newish quest hub just west of Theramore |
| 02:31.33 | Amarande | but don't totally break the instance. |
| 02:31.45 | Amarande | They fix all the LK tricks, but they don't bother to fix Tyrannus at all |
| 02:32.09 | Dagmar | The bug I refer to allows you to basically delete arbitrary mobs from the area |
| 02:32.25 | Amarande | Xyphoid: yeah, it's inconsistent then too |
| 02:32.29 | Amarande | why don't they fix Tyrannus, then? |
| 02:32.33 | Dagmar | Start channeling through device, select new mob before channeling completes. New mob disappears. |
| 02:32.49 | Amarande | that's an actual showstopper instance breaker bug when it happens, and it's stupidly easy to HAVE happen because Tyrannus is a frickin slowass at starting to attack |
| 02:32.57 | Xyphoid | i've never seen it happen myself |
| 02:33.11 | Dagmar | My favorite is in ToC 5-man. |
| 02:33.22 | Amarande | Dagmar: faction champions reset for no apparent reason? |
| 02:33.25 | Dagmar | The three faction champions usually despawn if you attack them early. |
| 02:33.26 | Xyphoid | and i'm usually standing on him spamming an attack key when he becomes attackable |
| 02:33.26 | Amarande | I've seen that one. |
| 02:33.35 | Amarande | I wonder what's being bugged up there and why they can't fix it |
| 02:33.37 | Xyphoid | dagmar: that happens if they don't despawn from jousting properly |
| 02:33.43 | Amarande | You'd think TOC5 and ICC5 would be BIG PRIORITIES to fix too |
| 02:33.48 | Amarande | since they are *majorly popular instances* now |
| 02:33.50 | Xyphoid | you'll see one guy still dead on the ground after the jousting |
| 02:33.52 | Dagmar | They NEVER despawn if it's going to be hellishly embarassing, like when you tell your group "Hey watch this!" and run up and yell "BOOGA BOOGA BOOGA!" |
| 02:33.54 | Amarande | probably the only 5-mans people really give a damn about, really. |
| 02:34.30 | Dagmar | THEN they beat your happy ass down, return to their positions, and *then* despawn. |
| 02:34.46 | Wobin | Amarande: only due to gear level =P |
| 02:35.12 | Amarande | or are the bugs random enough that they probably get tons of reports and then CNR when they try to test it, so they dismiss the reports? |
| 02:35.25 | Dagmar | Amarande: Those bugs, obvious they may be, are relatively minor |
| 02:35.31 | Wobin | Dagmar: is that the quest where you channel the lightning nearby the oozes? |
| 02:35.38 | Wobin | then switch targets? |
| 02:35.41 | Amarande | bugs whose circumstances are random, are probably highly vulnerable to CNR on attempts to fix |
| 02:35.41 | Dagmar | Wobin: Yep |
| 02:35.45 | Amarande | Dagmar: minor? |
| 02:36.00 | Xyphoid | the faction champion bug has no real impact since all it means is you start the fight again |
| 02:36.01 | Wobin | That's the same as the Pink Elekk quest for Brewfest |
| 02:36.05 | Amarande | having the *last* boss on a heroic bug up, meaning the instance is spoiled for the whole rest of the day, is minor? |
| 02:36.17 | Amarande | that's what happens with Tyrannus ... even after wiping, it's bugged for the rest of the heroic lockout |
| 02:36.17 | Dagmar | Amarande: Wlel, I didn't think getting a beat down was minor at the time, but it doesn't fatally break anything. If they despawn after you start, all you to is back off and start again |
| 02:36.26 | Amarande | And you're saved, since you had to fight Forgemaster and Ick to get there. |
| 02:36.35 | Wobin | Dagmar: back off? |
| 02:36.50 | Wobin | You have to reset the entire instance to try again? |
| 02:36.53 | Wobin | that's 'breaking' |
| 02:36.56 | Xyphoid | i've never seen tyrannus bug out in 30 or so kills |
| 02:37.01 | Dagmar | Wobin: Well, you don't exactly want to still be standing there like pillocks whe nthe faction champs respawn |
| 02:37.01 | Wobin | You can't just reset him alone |
| 02:37.02 | Xyphoid | the faction champion one doesnt' require an instance reset |
| 02:37.07 | Wobin | no Tyrannus |
| 02:37.11 | Wobin | not the faction champs |
| 02:37.15 | Dagmar | I've never seen Tyrannus fbug |
| 02:37.15 | Wobin | PoS |
| 02:37.24 | Wobin | I've seen it far too often |
| 02:37.28 | Amarande | yeah PoS is a severe bug indeed and extremely easy to trigger |
| 02:37.37 | Dagmar | Maybe having a hunter who is meter happy makes it not happen |
| 02:37.48 | Wobin | nope |
| 02:37.48 | Amarande | which makes me wonder wtf they concentrated their ICC5 fix efforts on making LK escape harder instead of on the breaking bug |
| 02:37.58 | Amarande | Unless it is, indeed, a business concern |
| 02:38.03 | Wobin | Amarande: maybe they can't fix it =P |
| 02:38.08 | Amarande | From a business standpoint, it sadly makes perfect sense to do exactly that |
| 02:38.25 | Dagmar | Amarande: Because the thing they fixed was making it STUPIDLY SIMPLE to beat him, as well as didn't make shit sense with respect to what's supposed to be going on |
| 02:38.43 | Amarande | If the LK escape is too easy, people get their gear too easily and spend less time on average playing (and thus subscribed) to WoW before they go on hiatus until Cata brings them new content |
| 02:38.46 | Dagmar | You're supposed to be escaping from him, not trailing behind like a fran club |
| 02:38.53 | Xyphoid | yeah, running behind him was just stupid |
| 02:38.59 | alestane | I've only seen PoS bug once, and I used to run it repeatedly for trinkets. |
| 02:39.11 | Amarande | If Tyrannus breaks, people don't get any gear from him at all, and have to wait another day to try again, which means they spend more time on average playing (and thus subscribed) to WoW before they go on pre-Cata hiatus. |
| 02:39.16 | alestane | Now admittedly, most of the time people in the group were going "NOBODY ATTACK HIM!" |
| 02:39.19 | Dagmar | alestane: Yeah I spent a weekend flogging all three of those instances for badges |
| 02:39.56 | Amarande | I'm also not precisely sure *why* it bugs out when he doesn't get the first hit in though |
| 02:39.57 | Dagmar | Amarande: One view of the situation does not indicate any kind of pattern. |
| 02:40.04 | Dagmar | You gotta get that paranoia under control. |
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| 02:40.16 | Lunessa | Actually, you can just keep mashing the button in LFD and get repeats of herocis you're already locked to. (terrible grammar) |
| 02:40.34 | Amarande | Dagmar: it's paranoia to assume that Blizzard will focus their game production efforts in a way that causes people to stay subscribed the longest? :) |
| 02:40.39 | Dagmar | Probably >90% of the players aren't selecting specific heroics anymore anyway |
| 02:40.47 | Amarande | that just sounds like business sense to me :) |
| 02:40.57 | Amarande | and yeah, the only specific heroic I select anymore is FoS |
| 02:40.57 | Dagmar | Amarande: Yes, generally that means they fix things, actually |
| 02:41.00 | Xyphoid | that does sound stupidly paranoid. |
| 02:41.07 | Amarande | because I'm still trying to get the trinket from Devourer |
| 02:41.10 | Wobin | Lunessa: chances thereof of getting a repeat are less if you're already locked to one |
| 02:41.21 | Wobin | So you'd have to do every other instance |
| 02:41.21 | Dagmar | Unless it's Oculus. |
| 02:41.30 | Wobin | and -then- only get an equal chance of hitting PoS again |
| 02:41.35 | Dagmar | Wobin: Nope. |
| 02:41.36 | Xyphoid | oculus rules |
| 02:41.59 | Dagmar | It'll merrily drop you into the first one of the night twice in a row if it feels like it |
| 02:42.09 | Wobin | Dagmar: is there not an addon that deliberately extends the lock of HOcc, just to reduce the chance of getting it? |
| 02:42.26 | Amarande | Why HOcc? |
| 02:42.32 | Wobin | cause people used to hate it |
| 02:42.33 | Dagmar | Wobin: There might be an addon for it, but I doubt it does a bit of good |
| 02:42.41 | Amarande | I'd think more folks would prefer to extend H Nexus |
| 02:42.48 | Amarande | since that's the annoying one of the Coldarra 5-mans |
| 02:42.50 | Amarande | well |
| 02:42.50 | Wobin | hnexus is easy fast |
| 02:42.53 | Amarande | except for one thing about H Nexus |
| 02:42.58 | Xyphoid | yeah i hate nexus |
| 02:42.59 | Dagmar | If there were four people in queue who haven't done Occ and it was picked for them, and you're the next fifth guy available, you're doing Occ again |
| 02:43.00 | Xyphoid | too much walking |
| 02:43.02 | Amarande | people do hate nexus |
| 02:43.02 | Amarande | BUT |
| 02:43.05 | Wobin | you can chainpull the entire instance |
| 02:43.12 | Amarande | it's the only heroic that you can get on random and be assured of SEVEN badges |
| 02:43.24 | Amarande | since you can't avoid any of the bosses |
| 02:43.24 | Wobin | nexus? |
| 02:43.27 | Cidan | Is there a central city in Cata, like BC/WotLK? |
| 02:43.27 | Wobin | oh |
| 02:43.34 | Wobin | pft, Gundrak |
| 02:43.42 | Amarande | the only other heroics I know of that have five are Gundrak and Ahn'kahet |
| 02:43.47 | Amarande | and people skip at least one boss in each of those |
| 02:43.54 | Amarande | Nexus, you HAVE to fight all five and get all seven badges |
| 02:43.55 | Dagmar | What I hate is when I'm just trying to do badges on each of my thre toons, and I get HOcc all three times. |
| 02:44.00 | Wobin | Gundrak has six |
| 02:44.08 | Wobin | with the sixth optional |
| 02:44.16 | Dagmar | Amarande: Skipping bosses is for bitches |
| 02:44.19 | Amarande | Ahn'kahet has five but people seem to only ever do 3. |
| 02:44.33 | Amarande | Took me a LONG while to get a group to do Amanitar and what's her name in order to get the achievement for that heroic. |
| 02:44.42 | Wobin | Jedoga |
| 02:44.46 | Amarande | yeah, Jedoga. |
| 02:45.16 | Amarande | I still remember when people used to feel an overwhelming sense of dread if there were multiple Druids in a Ahn'kahet group heh |
| 02:45.20 | Dagmar | Being that if you can survive Ulduar you can 4-man those, people skipping htem is silly |
| 02:45.26 | Dagmar | They're basically free badges |
| 02:45.32 | Dagmar | ...without a queue wait |
| 02:45.55 | Dagmar | Amarande: Because two trees makes that one fight in there a goddamn nightmare |
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| 02:46.11 | Xyphoid | yeah i respect from resto to ele for that fight |
| 02:46.24 | Dagmar | You are a wonderful person |
| 02:46.25 | Amarande | Xyphoid: doesn't really seem to matter |
| 02:46.38 | Amarande | healer class clones will heal to the max *no matter what spec* the player was |
| 02:46.48 | Amarande | Try bringing a bear, three cats, and a tree and see how long it takes ;) |
| 02:46.50 | Dagmar | The second time I went in there with two trees, I just feigned during Insanity |
| 02:47.01 | Xyphoid | i have been there with ele shamans and they bolt me |
| 02:47.18 | Amarande | well, there's also the fact that druids tend to use instant cast hots |
| 02:47.29 | Amarande | which means the AI probably sees it as a no-brainer to toss hots on anyone who takes damage at all |
| 02:47.34 | Dagmar | Now that we've got Trap On A Stick(tm) I just ice the tree and let the monkey do the heavy lifting |
| 02:47.58 | Dagmar | I have also learned to not be so quick about kicking off demon form on my warlock |
| 02:48.21 | Dagmar | For some reason your clones wind up pretty damn uber if you're in demon form when that phase begins |
| 02:48.26 | Dagmar | *rolls eyes* |
| 02:49.13 | Dagmar | Amarande: I want to know how the AI knows to make the tree chuckle each time it throws out a group full heal. ;) |
| 02:49.34 | Lunessa | Wobin: Less but not very small - I did HoR on heroic 5 times in a 12 hour period on my tank. |
| 02:49.50 | Wobin | Lunessa: how many heroics in that 12 hour period? |
| 02:50.19 | Dagmar | Lunessa: My guess is that it diddles the odds based on how many of the next five people it sticks together have locks |
| 02:50.21 | Lunessa | 12 or so. And I didn't do all of them. |
| 02:50.28 | Wobin | Dagmar: well it's more that people don't want badges anymore |
| 02:50.32 | Lunessa | Dagmar: I suspect you're right |
| 02:50.38 | Wobin | they want their daily frosts and to be done with it |
| 02:50.55 | Dagmar | Wobin: Well, it's good that I'm usually running with three guildies then |
| 02:50.55 | Wobin | so they skip bosses |
| 02:51.00 | Wobin | Dagmar: naturally |
| 02:51.06 | Lunessa | Also, if you're a tank and or/healer your chances of repeats might be higher based on who's looking for what. |
| 02:51.07 | Dagmar | We wants our badges because twinks need new shows |
| 02:51.08 | Wobin | it's -always- better to be running with guildies |
| 02:51.11 | Dagmar | er shoes |
| 02:51.33 | Wobin | I'm such a paper tank atm =( |
| 02:51.39 | Wobin | just hit 80 on my warrior |
| 02:52.07 | Wobin | I like running gundrak, activating all the altars |
| 02:52.08 | Dagmar | Time to install PassLoot then |
| 02:52.20 | Wobin | then waiting til someone jumps off the ledge before saying "Lets kill Eck!" |
| 02:52.42 | Wobin | Dagmar: passloot? |
| 02:52.57 | Dagmar | Wobin: It's an addon to eliminate having to click on all those annoying loot drops |
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| 02:53.08 | Dagmar | You can set up rules in advance like "fucking just de the cloth damnit" |
| 02:53.34 | Dagmar | There's a hook to atlasloot so you can also set it up to freaking need roll on the things you've pegged as upgrades |
| 02:53.52 | Wobin | nice, I'll look into it |
| 02:54.00 | Dagmar | I *hate* having the interface come up asking me what I want to do about some green drop while combat is still goin gon |
| 02:54.02 | Wobin | also the main reason I want to watch RED: http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/red12.jpg |
| 02:59.12 | Shirik | Your pride has built a wall so strong that I can't get through! |
| 02:59.31 | Shirik | Fisker, I'm still loving you |
| 03:00.02 | Shirik | memory usage: 1785/4094 MB (43%) |
| 03:00.09 | Shirik | 1GB of this: javaw.exe |
| 03:00.38 | Cidan | water is wet, sky is blue |
| 03:00.40 | Cidan | news at 11 |
| 03:02.24 | Lunessa | Water is WET? OMFG! Someone call the President! |
| 03:03.31 | Dagmar | Next thing you know he'll be claiming Qt is slow to compile |
| 03:04.18 | Dagmar | IRL sparklepony http://failblog.org/2010/08/23/epic-fail-photos-transportation-hybrid-win/ |
| 03:04.33 | Cidan | oo |
| 03:04.39 | Cidan | FFIVX open beta |
| 03:04.43 | Cidan | September |
| 03:04.54 | Cidan | er |
| 03:04.56 | Cidan | XIV |
| 03:04.57 | Cidan | even |
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| 03:05.17 | Dagmar | Cide: Can I start the download now? |
| 03:05.20 | Dagmar | heh |
| 03:05.23 | Cidan | hehehehe |
| 03:05.25 | Dagmar | s/Cide/Cidan/ |
| 03:05.27 | Cidan | success! |
| 03:05.32 | Lunessa | Not even if you paid me in hot blonde big-tittied women. |
| 03:05.42 | Dagmar | Actually my bigger concern is that I htink my PS3 only has a 20Gb drive or something |
| 03:05.57 | Cidan | it's on PC |
| 03:06.18 | Dagmar | Huh? I thought the PC version was slated for a secondary release cycle |
| 03:06.22 | Dagmar | Oh well |
| 03:06.48 | Cidan | Nah, you're thinking of... some other game, forgot which. |
| 03:07.35 | Dagmar | Whoa. These Lineage II banners are definitely aiming at the teenage boy market |
| 03:08.11 | Lunessa | Lineage II has booby-bounce as a primary feature. |
| 03:08.19 | Lunessa | The game itself sucks ass. |
| 03:08.28 | Cidan | Just like Night Elves in the original WoW beta |
| 03:08.36 | Cidan | they were much more... bouncy. |
| 03:10.33 | Amarande | heh, I wonder how many horndog men take the time to consider what night elves are actually like |
| 03:10.42 | Amarande | for instance, the fact that woman you're drooling over is like *seven feet tall* |
| 03:10.50 | Cidan | Yeah, I wonder... |
| 03:10.58 | Cidan | shuffles his feet |
| 03:11.10 | Cidan | So, Cata, can you fly in Bloodelf lands? |
| 03:11.11 | Dagmar | Amarande: I fail to see a problem. |
| 03:11.25 | Dagmar | NO ONE MAKES A CAREER OUT OF CLIMBING SMALL HILLS, MAN. |
| 03:11.56 | Dagmar | Lunessa: Actually, the banner ad I was just looking at showed some pretty serious bootay in tight short-shorts |
| 03:12.59 | Xyphoid | it's not like na'vi being ten feet tall stopped people perving over *them* |
| 03:13.09 | alestane | Cidan: It doesn't currently appear so. |
| 03:13.18 | Lunessa | Dagmar: Saw that one too. |
| 03:13.23 | Cidan | :( |
| 03:13.42 | alestane | I can summon my flying mount, but it behaves like a ground mount. |
| 03:13.49 | Cidan | I see. |
| 03:15.47 | alestane | What was this a banner ad for now? |
| 03:16.18 | alestane | Some new game from the makers of Evony? |
| 03:16.49 | alestane | Oh, Lineage II? |
| 03:16.51 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: you have a 20gb ps3? is that the one with hardware ps2 support or was that the 40gb? |
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| 03:17.11 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34603 |
| 03:17.31 | Cidan | 40 was it |
| 03:17.37 | Cidan | or no, original 60 |
| 03:18.14 | alestane | hugs the stuffing out of Cairenn for that one. |
| 03:18.19 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 03:18.39 | Cairenn | I think it's brilliant |
| 03:18.47 | Cidan | Amazingly so! |
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| 03:19.09 | alestane | "Over 90% of the world's problem's are caused by an excess of stupidity. I'm not saying stupidity should be a capital offense, but why not just take the warning labels off everything and wait for the problem to solve itself?" |
| 03:19.12 | Adys | remotely attempts to explode Cairenn |
| 03:19.43 | alestane | That's a task that should be attempted through contact techniques only, Adys. |
| 03:19.56 | Cairenn | *snark* |
| 03:20.14 | alestane | made Cairenn laugh, yay! |
| 03:20.35 | Amarande | Do not detonate the Happy Fun Cairenn |
| 03:21.20 | Amarande | snuggles Cairenn |
| 03:21.26 | Cairenn | :) |
| 03:21.39 | the-golem | Hi Cairenn :-) |
| 03:21.46 | Cairenn | Hi theorbtwo |
| 03:21.53 | Cairenn | errr, wrong tab-complete! |
| 03:21.58 | Thunder_Child | i cant help it, i have to comment on that thread |
| 03:21.59 | the-golem | lulz |
| 03:22.07 | Cairenn | hi the-golem |
| 03:23.18 | alestane | "I don't know who he was, where he came from, or where he went, but he just handed me a bowl of mac and cheese and left. It was good too." |
| 03:23.43 | KarlKFI | mmm mac n cheese |
| 03:23.47 | KarlKFI | do want |
| 03:24.06 | KarlKFI | unfortunetly i never have milk around when i want it |
| 03:24.24 | KarlKFI | i shoudl get the single use packets |
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| 03:25.09 | KarlKFI | unless i can make mac with chocolate milk... |
| 03:25.15 | KarlKFI | hmmm.... |
| 03:25.18 | Lunessa | KarlKFI: KFC has drive-thru and mac n cheese. I'm just sayin... |
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| 03:25.29 | KarlKFI | not as good |
| 03:25.33 | KarlKFI | it's tollerable |
| 03:25.46 | Lunessa | doesn't actually like mac n cheese |
| 03:25.49 | KarlKFI | but not like i want to eat a whole 5 servings good |
| 03:26.12 | Adys | changes Lunessa's name to McChiz |
| 03:26.16 | KarlKFI | mac n cheese is especially good with kielbassa mixed in |
| 03:26.23 | Cidan | yes |
| 03:26.24 | Cidan | yes it is |
| 03:26.28 | Lunessa | KarlKFI: or chili |
| 03:26.33 | Cidan | stop ittt |
| 03:26.35 | Cidan | you guys |
| 03:26.35 | Cidan | are |
| 03:26.35 | alestane | Um. (/kielbasa/) |
| 03:26.36 | Cidan | evil |
| 03:26.37 | Lunessa | I'm just not fond of it regularly |
| 03:26.50 | the-golem | KarlKFI: or brats |
| 03:26.53 | KarlKFI | ^^ |
| 03:26.59 | alestane | A can of diced tomatoes, on the other hand... |
| 03:27.02 | KarlKFI | or even just plain hotdogs if you're cheep |
| 03:27.07 | Lunessa | But since i haven't eaten in the last 12 hours - I'm going to get me some FOOOOOOOOD when I close up. |
| 03:27.15 | the-golem | Or tuna. |
| 03:27.19 | the-golem | and peas |
| 03:27.20 | the-golem | ^^ |
| 03:27.24 | KarlKFI | never tried that |
| 03:27.33 | KarlKFI | unless you mean mac with mayo |
| 03:27.40 | KarlKFI | and not mac n cheese |
| 03:27.49 | the-golem | nope |
| 03:27.54 | alestane | That would be macaroni tuna salad. |
| 03:27.59 | the-golem | not "real" macncheese, but the kraft kind |
| 03:28.16 | alestane | But I usually put peas in mac and cheese, at least when I make it myself. |
| 03:28.16 | KarlKFI | mac tuna salad with crab and black olivs is nom nom |
| 03:28.23 | the-golem | I dont think tuna would go with real mac n cheese |
| 03:28.35 | alestane | Also dill and paprika. |
| 03:28.46 | Cidan | Cairenn: Thank you by the way, for earlier. |
| 03:28.48 | the-golem | no thanks |
| 03:28.52 | the-golem | alergic to pickles |
| 03:28.58 | the-golem | allergic? |
| 03:28.58 | KarlKFI | ramen: also good with mix-ins |
| 03:29.01 | Cairenn | Cidan: You're welcome :) |
| 03:29.28 | alestane | Celery and spring onions both do well, Karl. |
| 03:29.31 | mikma | cairenn: http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/sleeping6.jpg |
| 03:29.41 | Cairenn | awwww |
| 03:30.14 | Lunessa | ok, I'm out of here. 12 hours is enough. Foooooooooood time. |
| 03:32.17 | KarlKFI | corn and soy beans as good in ramen |
| 03:32.20 | mikma | haste: http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/japanese_folds.jpg |
| 03:32.24 | the-golem | Ok, okay, UI/addon question. I'm trying to configure my xp bar addon to have a somewhat configurable "text" options. |
| 03:32.42 | KarlKFI | 'text' options fail |
| 03:32.44 | the-golem | Any suggestions on an approach? |
| 03:33.23 | KarlKFI | make a config page for the main config menu, it's easy |
| 03:33.35 | the-golem | *facepalm* |
| 03:33.44 | the-golem | that's not what I mean |
| 03:34.00 | the-golem | I mean the text XP display thats overtop of the xp bar |
| 03:34.11 | alestane | Yay for furoshiki techniques, mikma. |
| 03:34.15 | the-golem | not a console based config |
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| 03:35.33 | KarlKFI | cant go wrong with the old archaeologist settings |
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| 03:36.46 | KarlKFI | show on mouseover/always/never |
| 03:36.58 | KarlKFI | numbers or percentage |
| 03:37.01 | the-golem | I do that. |
| 03:37.04 | KarlKFI | amount till next level |
| 03:37.22 | KarlKFI | kills till next level based on last killed mob |
| 03:37.35 | the-golem | Ugh. |
| 03:37.37 | the-golem | no |
| 03:38.20 | KarlKFI | people like that shit. that's why it's called 'options' |
| 03:39.22 | the-golem | but nevermind, I'll ask #wowace, they're somewhat familiar with my addon. |
| 03:40.00 | KarlKFI | ouch |
| 03:40.00 | mikma | i have a answer |
| 03:40.02 | mikma | don't. |
| 03:40.36 | KarlKFI | that hurts me deep inside |
| 03:40.50 | KarlKFI | like constipation, only deeper |
| 03:40.59 | mikma | heartburn? |
| 03:41.12 | KarlKFI | more firey |
| 03:41.12 | Dagmar | ...like a tobasco high colonic. |
| 03:41.26 | mikma | naga morich pooping |
| 03:41.54 | Dagmar | No wait... s/tobasco/wasabe/ |
| 03:42.02 | KarlKFI | like an enema with habenero horseradish sauce |
| 03:42.22 | mikma | no wait, naga morich/naga morich ;) |
| 03:42.35 | the-golem | an answer to what? |
| 03:43.09 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/japanese_folds.jpg |
| 03:44.06 | mikma | whops |
| 03:44.09 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKgrRelCCWM |
| 03:44.11 | mikma | there :) |
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| 03:48.56 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOut22jOv6c :DDDDD |
| 03:49.45 | Amarande | Mmmmm habanero |
| 03:49.53 | Amarande | There is NO such thing as too much capsaicin |
| 03:50.14 | mikma | that's one awesome video |
| 03:50.21 | mikma | extreme sports at it's best :D |
| 03:50.39 | mikma | 1:20 -> :D |
| 03:55.00 | Dagmar | That's just too funny |
| 03:55.37 | Arrowmaster | i cant stop laughing |
| 03:56.00 | Dagmar | Look in the list to the right |
| 03:56.10 | Dagmar | Three girls competing by eating multiple habaneros |
| 03:56.22 | Dagmar | SOMETHING tells me no one told them what happens when you each a bunch of htem |
| 03:57.48 | Jerub | i love chilli |
| 03:57.49 | Jerub | chilli hates me |
| 04:01.57 | Amarande | I love habaneros! |
| 04:02.09 | Amarande | I'd probably love Naga peppers too if I could find them! |
| 04:03.40 | Dagmar | Damn no one took the bair |
| 04:03.42 | Dagmar | er bait |
| 04:03.56 | Arrowmaster | what bait? |
| 04:04.29 | Dagmar | Someone asking "what happens?" without qualifiers |
| 04:04.46 | Arrowmaster | what happens? |
| 04:04.52 | Dagmar | You become really popular. |
| 04:05.24 | Cidan | Somebody set us up the bomb? |
| 04:05.42 | Dagmar | I *tried* to set it up, but no takers. *sigh* |
| 04:06.03 | Dagmar | Someone'll still probably have to have it explained to them |
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| 04:09.38 | Kraps | Cidan: what you say! |
| 04:10.36 | Cidan | inb4 mainscreenturnon |
| 04:11.12 | Kraps | it's you! |
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| 04:19.23 | Kraps | Dagmar: so its in season 4 where willow has the personality tweak? |
| 04:19.40 | Dagmar | If by "tweak" you mean "she snaps", then yes. |
| 04:20.01 | Kraps | err |
| 04:20.14 | Dagmar | I was a pretty big fan of the new goth look personally tho |
| 04:20.33 | Kraps | whoa dude spoiler |
| 04:20.36 | Dagmar | So she's a little hostile and slightly violent... I've dated girls like that before. |
| 04:20.40 | Cidan | Willow? |
| 04:20.54 | Kraps | i meant even in the first episode |
| 04:21.04 | Kraps | she seems less dorky |
| 04:21.20 | Dagmar | Oh, well she *starts* to stop acting like a cowardly kitten all the time then |
| 04:21.35 | Cidan | What show is this? |
| 04:21.44 | Dagmar | hehe Buffy the Vampire Slayer |
| 04:21.46 | Cidan | Yay |
| 04:21.48 | Cidan | that's what I thought |
| 04:21.50 | Cidan | <3 buffy |
| 04:22.02 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: "little hostile and slightly violent" i think i might still have a few nail marks |
| 04:22.09 | Arrowmaster | figner nails |
| 04:22.33 | Arrowmaster | i dated a girl that drew blood |
| 04:23.05 | Dagmar | I installed some pretty durable eyelets on the bed frame. |
| 04:23.23 | Arrowmaster | fun fun |
| 04:23.26 | Dagmar | Nothing saves on band-aids like some good hemp rope |
| 04:24.58 | Amarande | Mmmm, BDSM. |
| 04:25.06 | Dagmar | Self-defense |
| 04:25.17 | Dagmar | You can't claw what you can't grab |
| 04:25.44 | Amarande | I could see myself either doing the tying or maybe getting tied, with the right woman. :) |
| 04:26.11 | Dagmar | Tomorrow morning will be some fun. I have to buy more rope. |
| 04:26.22 | Dagmar | ...and keep a straight face while doin git. |
| 04:26.44 | Arrowmaster | not going to happen |
| 04:26.45 | Amarande | Dagmar, you're reminding me now of the xkcd where he has the program that buys random ebay auctions |
| 04:26.51 | Dagmar | Just knowing how they react to sinisterish chuckling from someone buying rope makes it damn near impossible |
| 04:27.44 | Dagmar | Amarande: I'm not paying $70 for a tow on the scooter. Cheaper to rent a pickup from U-Haul, but I've gotta tie it down with something |
| 04:28.00 | Dagmar | Actually I'm tempted to use power cords |
| 04:28.41 | Xyphoid | get some use out of those spare ethernet cables |
| 04:28.47 | Dagmar | Three years ago we replaced every wireless AP on campus. THey all came with eight foot power cables er didn't need. |
| 04:28.58 | Xyphoid | using cable ties might be a bad idea though |
| 04:29.03 | Dagmar | I couldn't bring myself to just throw them in the trash |
| 04:29.38 | Dagmar | Xyphoid: Holy crap now there's an idea. I *do* have spool with about 200ft of buryable cat5 left on it that I'll never use |
| 04:30.09 | Amarande | Dagmar, are you thinking of using zip ties to tie down your gf :| |
| 04:30.13 | Amarande | Oh dear. |
| 04:30.18 | Dagmar | No. |
| 04:30.31 | Dagmar | I was going to buy more rope so I could keep the scooter from falling over in the back of the truch |
| 04:30.33 | Dagmar | er truck. |
| 04:31.21 | Dagmar | There's still like 30 power cables in the trunk of my car, but I don't really want to ruin them. I could care less about this ethernet tho' just as long as I get *some* use out of it |
| 04:32.50 | Dagmar | Amarande: I've got most of a 100' roll of 3/4" velcro if I wanted to do something like that |
| 04:33.26 | Amarande | Dagmar: you know ... we are a bunch of *kinked up* people :D |
| 04:33.39 | Dagmar | The velcro was for computer and netwokr wiring |
| 04:33.51 | Fisker | hey Arrowmaster |
| 04:33.56 | Amarande | Of course, I had to be to a certain degree, being D'Angeline ... but sometimes it boggled me to notice just how common it is in places like *here* :D |
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| 04:39.07 | Fisker | i gotta poop Amarande |
| 04:49.21 | Kraps | Fisker: do it on my face |
| 04:50.29 | Fisker | tempting Kraps |
| 04:51.09 | Fisker | OH LOOK |
| 04:51.22 | Fisker | Check who found out that my e-mail address isn't his |
| 04:52.16 | Kraps | llolol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k85lsax9mNI&NR=1 |
| 04:52.28 | Amarande | wtf... |
| 04:52.31 | Amarande | "The 1.13 patch removed Iron Maiden from [Diablo II Oblivion Knights'] list of curses" |
| 04:52.39 | Amarande | ok, there are some things I don't argue with |
| 04:52.50 | Amarande | this, however, sounds like they just took all the fun out of Act 4 and made the Chaos Sanctuary just another lootship |
| 04:53.03 | Amarande | I rather liked that I actually had to THINK in the Chaos Sanctuary :S |
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| 04:58.19 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1 |
| 04:58.24 | Shirik | I have a replay for you to critique |
| 04:58.34 | Shirik | also we should play some 2v2 together, I have gotten a lot better, I promise :< |
| 05:06.56 | Cidan | Shirik: What's your fav race? |
| 05:08.31 | Fisker | Shirik |
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| 05:14.50 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 05:14.59 | Fisker | i can Shirik you all morning if i have to |
| 05:16.14 | Cidan | I think he's gone |
| 05:16.25 | Fisker | the great part is that i can spam a lot |
| 05:16.37 | Cidan | Well, nini |
| 05:16.37 | Fisker | because Shirik is in so much despair that he had to basically whitelist me in that bot of his |
| 05:16.40 | Cidan | lol |
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| 05:23.31 | Fisker | Adys my man |
| 05:23.54 | Adys | Fisker, my half-monkey half-female-pig mutant |
| 05:24.18 | Jerub | latest score on abc.net.au is 72-all with 2 seats in doubt |
| 05:24.48 | Fisker | oh ok |
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| 05:33.26 | Amarande | so apparently frostfire bolts go all the way back to the Bible. |
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| 06:00.45 | Amarande | also |
| 06:00.51 | Amarande | will DPS casters get a new legendary in Cata? |
| 06:00.59 | Amarande | seeing as right now they're one of the few without access to one at all ... |
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| 06:28.02 | Dagmar | Amarande: You get epic pom poms. One for each hand. |
| 06:28.20 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 06:28.21 | Shirik | not true |
| 06:28.28 | Dagmar | TRUST THE DEVS just a little bit, man |
| 06:28.48 | Dagmar | They've successfully given us all candy in double-handfuls for five years now |
| 06:29.01 | Dagmar | There's just no sensible reason to go assuming crazy stuff. |
| 06:29.16 | Dagmar | If you think it's a bad idea, there's a super-high chance they won't do it |
| 06:29.40 | Dagmar | ...or that they'll do it in a slightly different way that makes it awesome. |
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| 06:38.27 | Mike-N-Go | May I have a link to a mirror of the mac beta client? The Blizzard download is not working. |
| 06:38.48 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 06:38.49 | Fisker | OMG |
| 06:38.50 | Fisker | GMO |
| 06:38.51 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 06:38.52 | Fisker | OMG |
| 06:39.07 | Fisker | the wow forums say i have no active wow account :( |
| 06:39.22 | Amarande | aright time for me to sleep |
| 06:39.24 | Amarande | night folks :) |
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| 06:48.20 | zenzio | "Sparking a fresh round of debate over an ongoing issue in time-keeping circles, the International Telecommunications Union is considering eliminating leap seconds from the time scale used by most computer systems, Coordinated Universal Time (UTC). Since their introduction in 1971, leap seconds have proved problematic for at least a few software programs. The leap second added on to the end of 2008, for instance, caused Oracle cluster software to reboot |
| 06:48.20 | zenzio | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:48.25 | zenzio | o_O |
| 06:48.38 | Dagmar | looks pointedly at Shirik. |
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| 06:49.15 | Arrowmaster | zenzio: theyve been debating that for years |
| 06:49.29 | zenzio | probably |
| 06:49.33 | zenzio | it's still amusing |
| 06:49.34 | Arrowmaster | although imho the solution is to change unix epoch time from UTC to TAI |
| 06:49.52 | zenzio | TAI? |
| 06:50.36 | Arrowmaster | atomic time |
| 06:51.24 | Arrowmaster | basically intead of making every day exactly 86400 seconds in unix epoch actually make it the number of seconds since epoch |
| 06:52.43 | Fisker | no Arrowmaster |
| 06:52.47 | Fisker | i will destroy you |
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| 06:58.42 | Mike-N-Go | May someone post a link to a beta client mirror? |
| 06:59.19 | Fisker | slaps Mike-N-Go around a bit with a large trout |
| 06:59.30 | Mike-N-Go | cowers. |
| 06:59.54 | zenzio | "Wikipedia documents it quite well and programmers in modern times should be heading to wikipedia almost constantly anyway." - eh? |
| 07:02.24 | Wobin | [Citation Needed] |
| 07:06.11 | Shirik | Fisker: That's because I haxed your wow account |
| 07:08.21 | Shirik | zenzio: obviously MSDN is inferior to wikipedia |
| 07:08.24 | Fisker | i came Shirik |
| 07:08.29 | Shirik | ~wiki System.Diagnostics.Debug.Assert |
| 07:08.32 | Fisker | i hate msdn Shirik |
| 07:08.38 | Shirik | wait let me try again |
| 07:08.48 | Fisker | ~msdn System.Diagnostics.Debug.Assert |
| 07:08.49 | Shirik | ~wiki System.Console.Print |
| 07:08.54 | Fisker | see? |
| 07:08.56 | Shirik | oh dear |
| 07:08.59 | Fisker | no msdn article either |
| 07:09.02 | Shirik | maybe wiki isn't that good after all |
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| 07:09.07 | Fisker | ~msdn System.Console.Print |
| 07:09.14 | Fisker | i don't see msdn being any better Shirik |
| 07:09.15 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 07:09.20 | Shirik | I will be destroying you now |
| 07:09.22 | Shirik | have a nice day |
| 07:09.24 | Fisker | you can't |
| 07:09.27 | Shirik | I can |
| 07:09.31 | Fisker | ~wiki stop shirik |
| 07:09.37 | Fisker | :E |
| 07:09.44 | Fisker | ~wiki fuck shirik |
| 07:09.47 | Fisker | must be something there |
| 07:09.51 | Fisker | oh |
| 07:10.01 | Fisker | guess it doesn't take user_talk namespace in searches |
| 07:10.13 | Shirik | ~wiki User talk:Shirik |
| 07:10.22 | Fisker | so it appears that i will be destroyed |
| 07:10.27 | Shirik | agreed |
| 07:11.39 | Fisker | btw Shirik |
| 07:11.54 | Fisker | why are people all like "omg googles licensing stuff broken in less than a month" |
| 07:12.01 | Fisker | they should be happy it lasted for more than an hour |
| 07:14.49 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_6cVzUOxtM&feature=related |
| 07:15.15 | Mike-N-Go | licks Fisker. |
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| 07:17.04 | harl | wuff |
| 07:17.54 | Cairenn | purr |
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| 07:24.54 | zenzio | I am amused by this signature... "The determined Real Programmer can write Fortran programs in any language." |
| 07:25.56 | unfo- | ++ |
| 07:26.20 | Fisker | oh nice |
| 07:26.26 | Fisker | the power auras icons look pretty neat |
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| 07:28.53 | Fisker | slaps harl around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:28.54 | Fisker | slaps Cairenn around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:29.08 | Fisker | i abused a fish to abuse a cat and a dog |
| 07:29.08 | Fisker | bam |
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| 08:28.05 | mikma | ruahahahahahaaaaa, volley removed permanently |
| 08:28.29 | zenzio | really? |
| 08:29.32 | mikma | devs didnt think that aoe fitted in as non-aoe class |
| 08:29.37 | mikma | so, buhbye |
| 08:29.42 | zenzio | well, I do agree |
| 08:29.46 | zenzio | multi-shot is more appropriate |
| 08:30.47 | mikma | ya, thats what the devs also said |
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| 08:48.57 | mitch0 | I hated multishot back then when the hunter always broke my sheep with it |
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| 08:53.55 | Fisker | lol haste |
| 08:54.00 | Fisker | the xbox 360 chip is codenamed vejle |
| 08:54.01 | Fisker | LOLD |
| 08:55.55 | Fisker | volleyspam is boring |
| 08:56.21 | Fisker | to some extent i would like to see channelled aoe being removed |
| 08:57.49 | Spejnar | just make ES and CS to 100% splash and boom, no need for volley |
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| 08:58.12 | Spejnar | ES even looks like it should aoe |
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| 09:02.31 | sylvanaar_atwork | good morning |
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| 09:29.45 | sylvanaar_atwork | can someone give me a cata forum link - i dont have one bookmarked at work |
| 09:30.10 | Mike-N-Go | Who is on a Mac and in the Beta? |
| 09:30.58 | Spejnar | sylvanaar_atwork: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/index.html?sid=2000 that one? |
| 09:31.21 | Mike-N-Go | sylvanaar_atwork: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?forumId=78416&sid=1 |
| 09:31.24 | sylvanaar_atwork | yeah thanks |
| 09:31.37 | sylvanaar_atwork | Spejnar: that was the one |
| 09:32.04 | Spejnar | :) |
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| 09:38.18 | Mike-N-Go | Interesting.. I get this console error when trying to open up the beta Installer: 8/24/10 2:36:49 AM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[107]([0x0-0x646646].com.blizzard.installer[5527]) posix_spawn("/Users/macbookpro/Downloads/Cataclysm-Beta-Installer-4.0.0.1.12635-enUS/Installer.app/Contents/MacOS/InstallerLauncher", ...): Permission denied 8/24/10 2:36:49 AMcom.apple.launchd.peruser.501[107]([0x0-0x646646].com.blizzard.installer[5527]) Exited with exi |
| 09:38.18 | Mike-N-Go | code: 1 |
| 09:38.36 | Mike-N-Go | Anyone understand that? |
| 09:39.51 | Spejnar | well the error states not enough perms |
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| 09:43.47 | jnwhiteh | Mike-N-Go: did you download the beta installer using a torrent downloader instead of the default downloader? |
| 09:43.56 | jnwhiteh | if so, the permissions won't be set on the executable. |
| 09:44.21 | Mike-N-Go | I downloaded them from a non-Blizzard source, so yes. |
| 09:44.42 | Mike-N-Go | The Bliz downloader would not.. download. |
| 09:45.55 | Wobin | mitch0: You never learned how to multishot to not break sheep before they changed it not to hit polymorphed npcs? |
| 09:46.01 | Wobin | terrible =P |
| 09:46.22 | mitch0 | wobin: I never had a hunter. I was the sorry mage in the party ;) |
| 09:46.27 | Wobin | or rather , terrible hunters =P |
| 09:46.32 | Wobin | it's not that difficult |
| 09:46.33 | Spejnar | im not terribad! |
| 09:48.10 | Fisker | in wobin i came |
| 09:48.25 | Mike-N-Go | I used BetterZip to unzip the rar file, and there is a file called WoW-3.3.0.10958-4.0.0.12635-x86-Win-enUS that I can see in the BetterZip file browser, but I get an error saying that one file "..could not be extracted. The password may be incorrect." |
| 09:48.52 | Spejnar | you actually sure the file downloaded correctly? |
| 09:49.02 | Fisker | the solution is easy though Mike-N-Go |
| 09:49.07 | Fisker | install windows |
| 09:49.09 | Fisker | also hi jnwhiteh |
| 09:49.19 | Mike-N-Go | ~lart Fisker |
| 09:49.19 | purl | crushes Fisker with a full height scsi disk |
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| 09:50.32 | Mike-N-Go | Spejnar: I downloaded the compressed file via Safari, and another try with FireFox. |
| 09:51.19 | Spejnar | Mike-N-Go: that doesnt garuantee the file integrity, doubt there is a hash sum on the page you downloaded it from |
| 09:51.30 | Mike-N-Go | Checking. |
| 09:52.09 | Mike-N-Go | Downloaded it via http://wow.youthbox.net/. No md5. |
| 09:52.55 | Mike-N-Go | I think I might know the problem; I was trying to download the windows version of the installer? |
| 09:54.06 | Mike-N-Go | I searched for about an hour, and could not find the beta client that was labeled 'mac'. |
| 09:54.38 | Fisker | but really Mike-N-Go it would've solved it to the max |
| 09:55.04 | Mike-N-Go | Fisker: Do you have an instal disk I may borrow? |
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| 10:01.30 | Mike-N-Go | I extracted downloader.torrent from the Downloader, and now trying to download it via Transmission.. 0 bytes have moved =[ |
| 10:05.53 | cbreak_work | I didn't have problems with the live downloader |
| 10:06.08 | Mike-N-Go | cbreak_work: On Mac? |
| 10:06.09 | cbreak_work | (appart from the game crashing when I log in since the last patch) |
| 10:06.13 | cbreak_work | yes |
| 10:06.28 | cbreak_work | I got to green without much problems. |
| 10:06.36 | Mike-N-Go | Want to send me the file :O |
| 10:06.38 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: hihi |
| 10:06.59 | cbreak_work | you should just download it the same way :) |
| 10:07.08 | Mike-N-Go | It no workie.. |
| 10:07.25 | cbreak_work | symptoms? |
| 10:08.10 | *** join/#wowuidev Adys (~Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 10:08.20 | Mike-N-Go | The downloader makes no progress. |
| 10:09.37 | cbreak_work | network problem? |
| 10:09.40 | cbreak_work | Firewall maybe? |
| 10:09.55 | cbreak_work | I have the os x firewall on ask-me-every-time, so I had to authorize it |
| 10:09.58 | Mike-N-Go | I've poked the proper ports in the firewall, even tried DMZ. |
| 10:10.04 | cbreak_work | (you-re on 10.6?) |
| 10:10.24 | cbreak_work | OS X has a software firewall |
| 10:10.30 | cbreak_work | in 10.6 that is application based |
| 10:11.05 | Mike-N-Go | 10.6.4 |
| 10:11.22 | cbreak_work | yep, application firewall |
| 10:11.27 | Mike-N-Go | I did not take the software firewall into consideration, only my router. |
| 10:11.40 | cbreak_work | or it could be a file system permission issue |
| 10:11.48 | cbreak_work | where did you put the downloader? |
| 10:11.53 | cbreak_work | inside your user folder? |
| 10:12.08 | Mike-N-Go | ~/Downloads |
| 10:12.28 | cbreak_work | you should have all rights to that. |
| 10:12.35 | Mike-N-Go | The software firewall is presently off. |
| 10:13.08 | Mike-N-Go | cbreak_work: I get this console error when trying to open up the beta Installer: 8/24/10 2:36:49 AM com.apple.launchd.peruser.501[107]([0x0-0x646646].com.blizzard.installer[5527]) posix_spawn("/Users/macbookpro/Downloads/Cataclysm-Beta-Installer-4.0.0.1.12635-enUS/Installer.app/Contents/MacOS/InstallerLauncher", ...): Permission denied 8/24/10 2:36:49 AMcom.apple.launchd.peruser.501[107]([0x0-0x646646].com.blizzard.installer[5527]) Exited with exit co |
| 10:13.19 | cbreak_work | hmm... |
| 10:13.24 | cbreak_work | where did you get that installer from? |
| 10:13.40 | Mike-N-Go | Apparently, I lack the permissions. I also ran disk util prem repair |
| 10:13.51 | cbreak_work | repair does not repair like you might think |
| 10:14.05 | cbreak_work | it only sets permissions according to the pkg reciepts installers generated |
| 10:14.09 | cbreak_work | won't help you with that |
| 10:14.11 | Mike-N-Go | I got the file from http://wow.youthbox.net/. |
| 10:14.21 | cbreak_work | you should use blizzard's files |
| 10:14.32 | cbreak_work | there are no OS X viruses, but there are some troyans. |
| 10:14.45 | cbreak_work | anyway, do you know your way around on the command line? |
| 10:15.07 | Mike-N-Go | I am not afraid of the command line. |
| 10:15.21 | cbreak_work | do an ls -la ~/Downloads/Cataclysm-Beta-Installer-4.0.0.1.12635-enUS/Installer.app/Contents/MacOS/InstallerLauncher |
| 10:15.28 | Mike-N-Go | I don't use it that much, but I know what not to do :) |
| 10:15.29 | cbreak_work | what permission mask is set? |
| 10:15.46 | Wobin | Dagmar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oloFLyel3Is&feature=player_embedded |
| 10:16.09 | bleeter | stabs Fisker and hands the carcass to jnwhiteh |
| 10:16.18 | bleeter | also waves to Wobin |
| 10:16.28 | Wobin | ho bleeter, long time no irc |
| 10:16.44 | Mike-N-Go | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/139948 |
| 10:16.57 | bleeter | Wobin: indeed |
| 10:17.31 | Mike-N-Go | cbreak_work: Thank you for helping me. |
| 10:18.06 | cbreak_work | Mike-N-Go: need the rights of the path I pasted, not the .app folder itself |
| 10:18.27 | Fisker | slaps bleeter around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:18.38 | Mike-N-Go | Oh, the package contents, moment. |
| 10:19.17 | Mike-N-Go | -rw-r--r-- 1 macbookpro staff 3949072 Aug 5 01:40 /Users/macbookpro/Downloads/Cataclysm-Beta-Installer-4.0.0.1.12635-enUS/Installer.app/Contents/MacOS/InstallerLauncher |
| 10:19.33 | cbreak_work | it has no x, so you can not execute it |
| 10:19.36 | cbreak_work | as suspected |
| 10:19.43 | cbreak_work | do a chmod +x on that file |
| 10:19.46 | Mike-N-Go | My username is macbookpro, lol, never changed it.. |
| 10:19.52 | cbreak_work | ... |
| 10:19.55 | cbreak_work | bad |
| 10:19.58 | cbreak_work | do not be admin |
| 10:20.06 | Mike-N-Go | I am :( |
| 10:20.11 | cbreak_work | ! |
| 10:20.31 | *** join/#wowuidev nnoell (~nnoell@191.56.27.77.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 10:20.35 | Mike-N-Go | I know it is not best practice.. |
| 10:21.25 | Mike-N-Go | Is the syntax: chmod +x /Users/macbookpro/Downloads/Cataclysm-Beta-Installer-4.0.0.1.12635-enUS/Installer.app/Contents/MacOS/InstallerLauncher |
| 10:21.26 | Mike-N-Go | ? |
| 10:21.37 | cbreak_work | yes |
| 10:21.52 | cbreak_work | +x means "make it executable" |
| 10:22.02 | Mike-N-Go | Still fails. |
| 10:22.07 | cbreak_work | you can write u+x to mean "make it executable by me" |
| 10:22.11 | Mike-N-Go | 8/24/10 3:21:08 AMcom.apple.launchd.peruser.501[107]([0x0-0x68c68c].com.blizzard.Installer[5868]) posix_spawn("/var/folders/KY/KY3pU+thFVyqP3gPEnmsvk+++TI/Cleanup At Startup/Blizzard/installer_26D5AD67/Installer.app/Contents/MacOS/Installer", ...): Permission denied 8/24/10 3:21:08 AMcom.apple.launchd.peruser.501[107]([0x0-0x68c68c].com.blizzard.Installer[5868]) Exited with exit code: 1 |
| 10:22.28 | cbreak_work | different error. |
| 10:22.49 | cbreak_work | make Installer also executable |
| 10:23.02 | cbreak_work | who ever gave you that file was an idiot. |
| 10:23.20 | cbreak_work | maybe used an archive format that did not contain FS permission preservation |
| 10:23.28 | cbreak_work | or it was just corrupted :) |
| 10:23.32 | *** join/#wowuidev Torhal_ (~callahan@74-141-246-74.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 10:23.41 | Mike-N-Go | 8/24/10 3:23:17 AMcom.apple.launchd.peruser.501[107]([0x0-0x690690].com.blizzard.Installer[5877]) posix_spawn("/var/folders/KY/KY3pU+thFVyqP3gPEnmsvk+++TI/Cleanup At Startup/Blizzard/installer_EE0B2C97/Installer.app/Contents/MacOS/Installer", ...): Permission denied8/24/10 3:23:17 AMcom.apple.launchd.peruser.501[107]([0x0-0x690690].com.blizzard.Installer[5877]) Exited with exit code: 1 |
| 10:23.59 | Mike-N-Go | Well, I think the file was intended for PC. |
| 10:24.05 | cbreak_work | no. |
| 10:24.06 | sylvanaar_atwork | ... |
| 10:24.12 | cbreak_work | PCs don't use .app :) |
| 10:24.16 | Mike-N-Go | Ahh. |
| 10:24.16 | sylvanaar_atwork | it has .app in it |
| 10:24.28 | sylvanaar_atwork | was too slow |
| 10:24.29 | cbreak_work | they use PEF executable binaries |
| 10:24.37 | bleeter | Fisker: thanks, in a strange way I've missed that |
| 10:24.42 | Mike-N-Go | And there was I used BetterZip to unzip the rar file, and there is a file called WoW-3.3.0.10958-4.0.0.12635-x86-Win-enUS that I can see in the BetterZip file browser, but I get an error saying that one file "..could not be extracted. The password may be incorrect.", might that have something to do with the problem? |
| 10:24.47 | cbreak_work | which, oddly enough stands for Portable Executable Format, even though no one else uses it. |
| 10:24.54 | sylvanaar_atwork | lol |
| 10:25.08 | cbreak_work | if you get an error, delete the file and get something that works. |
| 10:25.18 | cbreak_work | for decompressing rar, I would use UnrarX |
| 10:25.24 | cbreak_work | or... the command line rar |
| 10:25.30 | *** part/#wowuidev nnoell (~nnoell@191.56.27.77.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 10:25.33 | bleeter | I'd go the `rm -fr /` route then get something that works, for sure |
| 10:25.48 | cbreak_work | don't tell him bleeter |
| 10:25.56 | cbreak_work | that guy is working as admin... |
| 10:26.01 | cbreak_work | he might actually do that... |
| 10:26.22 | Mike-N-Go | As I said, I know what not to do to break the computer in the command line. |
| 10:26.40 | Mike-N-Go | I will not force remove my file system lol, and not let it ask any questions. |
| 10:26.43 | cbreak_work | there are more ways to do that than you know :) |
| 10:27.04 | cbreak_work | either way, it seems your archive is corrupted. |
| 10:27.04 | Mike-N-Go | When in doubt, man the command.. |
| 10:27.17 | bleeter | ah for the grand old days when `cp /dev/random /dev/kmem` would result in serious overtime pay |
| 10:27.48 | cbreak_work | I'd use dd or cat. |
| 10:28.17 | Mike-N-Go | dd or cat? |
| 10:28.42 | cbreak_work | not for you. you should use neither. |
| 10:29.03 | Mike-N-Go | I'm going to download from http://filevo.com/z9z7m0bpysiz.html.. 44 minutes remaining. |
| 10:29.07 | cbreak_work | you should try to get uncorrupted software |
| 10:29.33 | bleeter | I used to love doing system installs using dd to clone drives then charging folks as if I were working from traditional tape/cd install media ;) |
| 10:30.02 | bleeter | that kinda scam fell apart once CD drives got past about 8x speed |
| 10:30.21 | Mike-N-Go | cbreak_work: Thank you for your time, I really honor your input. |
| 10:30.36 | cbreak_work | no problem |
| 10:30.47 | Mike-N-Go | Everyone else: Sorry for flooding the room with my n00bnes. |
| 10:31.08 | bleeter | everyone's gotta start somewhere mate :) |
| 10:31.46 | Mike-N-Go | I'll start by not erasing my FS, thank you! |
| 10:32.40 | Mike-N-Go | cbreak_work: Are you an addon dev? |
| 10:33.04 | cbreak_work | I was |
| 10:33.12 | cbreak_work | Stopped ages ago though |
| 10:34.01 | Mike-N-Go | What do you do now? |
| 10:34.12 | cbreak_work | I am software engineer |
| 10:34.14 | mitch0 | he lurks ;) |
| 10:34.21 | cbreak_work | oh, that, yes. |
| 10:34.29 | cbreak_work | I make fun of people who have to use secure templates :) |
| 10:34.57 | Mike-N-Go | So you have graduated from entry level programing? |
| 10:35.07 | Mike-N-Go | What is your focus in your engineering? |
| 10:35.21 | cbreak_work | I am master of computer science... I don't do entry level :) |
| 10:35.34 | cbreak_work | I do tech transfer at Disney Research |
| 10:35.39 | cbreak_work | so research |
| 10:36.13 | wereHamster | cbreak_work: the new disney research center at the eth? |
| 10:36.19 | cbreak_work | yes |
| 10:36.32 | *** join/#wowuidev A-KO (as@c-68-33-146-13.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 10:36.33 | *** join/#wowuidev A-KO (as@unaffiliated/a-ko) |
| 10:36.34 | cbreak_work | I graduated from there so I had contacts :) |
| 10:37.24 | wereHamster | cbreak_work: my brother will start there in a month or two |
| 10:37.38 | cbreak_work | nice :) |
| 10:38.25 | cbreak_work | I am trying to spread the word of git here at the moment |
| 10:38.49 | cbreak_work | it is unfortunately only blessed with partial success :/ |
| 10:39.04 | cbreak_work | people make tiny one file commits, dozens of them, with messages like "new file" |
| 10:39.28 | cbreak_work | or various other evilnesses :/ |
| 10:39.41 | cbreak_work | but everyone is really nice otherwise :) |
| 10:39.48 | wereHamster | cbreak_work: I have a friend who's also working on eth (or was it psi) and I think he convinced his team to switch from svn to git |
| 10:42.46 | Mike-N-Go | ~seen MentalPower |
| 10:42.48 | purl | mentalpower <~MPower@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Administrator/MentalPower> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 29d 7h 39m 29s ago, saying: 'Cide: I wasn't betting on it, but it doesn't hurt to try'. |
| 10:43.31 | Mike-N-Go | Anyone hear recently from MP? |
| 10:44.19 | A-KO | ugh, my cat acts like she never eats |
| 10:44.25 | A-KO | she always acts like she's starving |
| 10:46.17 | *** join/#wowuidev felipe` (~felipe@my.nada.kth.se) |
| 10:49.00 | zenzio | Cairenn: http://dailysquee.com/2010/08/23/cute-baby-animals-kitten-fights-moms-tail/ |
| 10:49.36 | Cairenn | hehehhee |
| 10:49.54 | Cairenn | too damn cute for words! |
| 10:57.47 | Fisker | slaps Cairenn around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:58.53 | Mike-N-Go | ponders why Fisker has been prone to recent bouts of energy and aggression. |
| 11:04.23 | haste | it's 1PM |
| 11:04.27 | haste | and I haven't eaten lunch yet |
| 11:04.30 | haste | :V |
| 11:08.18 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 11:08.27 | Fisker | xbox 360s chip was codenamed vejle |
| 11:08.30 | Fisker | did you lol? |
| 11:09.48 | haste | camping vacation goo! |
| 11:17.48 | Mike-N-Go | cries. |
| 11:17.49 | Mike-N-Go | The file Installer Tome.MPQ could not be extracted. The password may be incorrect. |
| 11:18.51 | Wobin | http://www.dorkly.com/article/2538/5-pokemon-facebook-updates |
| 11:18.55 | Mike-N-Go | That was from BetterZip |
| 11:19.16 | Mike-N-Go | And from UnRarX: Cataclysm-Beta-Installer-4.0.0.12635-enUS/Installer Tome.MPQ - CRC failed -- Unexpected end of archive.. |
| 11:21.55 | Mike-N-Go | Wobin: lol |
| 11:23.10 | Fisker | slaps Wobin around a bit with a large trout |
| 11:23.34 | Wobin | slaps Fisker around a bit with a magikarp |
| 11:24.13 | Mike-N-Go | cbreak_work: Any suggestions? |
| 11:25.16 | cbreak_work | Mike-N-Go: looks like the archive is corrupted |
| 11:25.47 | Mike-N-Go | weeps with the force of Nigra, falling, off the falls of the falls where the falls fall into a crack.. |
| 11:28.44 | Wobin | Niagara? |
| 11:29.21 | Kalroth | that's a lot of qq |
| 11:29.30 | Kalroth | like raiding with Fisker! |
| 11:30.01 | Mike-N-Go | Niagra*.. |
| 11:30.49 | Mike-N-Go | Actually, Nigra, as in Ulmus glabra 'Nigra'. |
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| 11:35.57 | Wobin | Black Elm? |
| 11:36.24 | Fisker | What is there to complain about Kalroth? Our raids don't have shitty dps |
| 11:37.04 | Mike-N-Go | Type of cherry tree; you see, I am a student of plant sicence. |
| 11:37.19 | Kalroth | Fisker: But worst tanks! |
| 11:37.19 | Wobin | is it known to be forceful? |
| 11:37.20 | Mike-N-Go | I am doing a presentation on grafting. |
| 11:37.21 | Adys | Mike-N-Go: what are you trying to do? |
| 11:37.30 | Kalroth | What carries a raid, good tanks or good dps?! |
| 11:37.38 | Wobin | Kalroth: yes. |
| 11:37.39 | Fisker | no Kalroth |
| 11:37.45 | Kalroth | yes |
| 11:37.52 | Fisker | Because higher dps than you = better tanks than you |
| 11:37.56 | Mike-N-Go | Adys: Recover. |
| 11:37.59 | Kalroth | wat |
| 11:38.06 | Kalroth | someone help with Fisker logic please! |
| 11:38.10 | Adys | recover what? |
| 11:38.16 | Wobin | faux pas =) |
| 11:38.19 | Kalroth | Adys: Your sanity |
| 11:38.19 | Fisker | you're the one that needs help Kalroth |
| 11:38.30 | Mike-N-Go | No someone just help Fisker ! |
| 11:38.32 | Kalroth | Fisker: no u |
| 11:38.56 | Mike-N-Go | I accidentally keyed 'Nigra'. |
| 11:39.13 | Adys | Mike-N-Go: i meant with the MPQ opening |
| 11:39.29 | Mike-N-Go | Adys: Sorry, it is 5 am here lol |
| 11:39.46 | Adys | lets try this again |
| 11:39.50 | Mike-N-Go | Adys: I am trying to instal the beta client. |
| 11:39.56 | Adys | right, and |
| 11:40.03 | Adys | why are you doing that with BetterZip and UnRarX. |
| 11:40.10 | Kalroth | installs Adys with BetterZip |
| 11:40.17 | Adys | better zips |
| 11:40.24 | Adys | Or else! |
| 11:40.25 | Kalroth | that's right, you better zip |
| 11:40.45 | Alram | Kalroth, the area of your interest usually has no zips |
| 11:40.45 | Mike-N-Go | Trying to decompress the rars. |
| 11:40.50 | Adys | Right |
| 11:40.52 | Adys | what rars. |
| 11:40.58 | Adys | didnt you get the installer? |
| 11:41.00 | Kalroth | The mpq rars! |
| 11:41.15 | Kalroth | UnRarX: Cataclysm-Beta-Installer-4.0.0.12635-enUS/Installer Tome.MPQ - CRC failed -- Unexpected end of archive.. |
| 11:41.19 | Kalroth | see, the mpq rars |
| 11:41.25 | Adys | the installer is only a few megabytes |
| 11:41.26 | Adys | like 20mb |
| 11:41.31 | Adys | and downloads everything locally |
| 11:41.34 | Alram | Kalroth, did you try turning it on and off again |
| 11:41.42 | Adys | Alram: he definitely tried turning it on |
| 11:41.46 | Mike-N-Go | The Blizzard Installer was not working for me. |
| 11:41.48 | Kalroth | Alram: Cat jumping out of butt or gtfo |
| 11:41.49 | Adys | i dont know about the other part |
| 11:41.52 | Alram | he's always turned on |
| 11:41.56 | Adys | Mike-N-Go: right. Why? |
| 11:41.59 | Alram | Mike-N-Go, unrarring it wont work either |
| 11:42.00 | Alram | ever |
| 11:42.06 | Mike-N-Go | Why? |
| 11:42.10 | Alram | because theyre not rars |
| 11:42.15 | Adys | Alram: he's not doing what you think he's doing |
| 11:42.17 | Adys | gtfo dumass |
| 11:42.21 | Kalroth | no no no, you don't love me and I know now |
| 11:42.28 | Alram | fuk u adys!!!!!!!!! |
| 11:42.35 | Alram | goes afk |
| 11:42.40 | Mike-N-Go | The file I DLed is called Cataclysm-Beta-Installer-4.0.0.12635-enUS.rar. |
| 11:42.46 | Kalroth | He's trying to unrar the mpq archive, Adys! |
| 11:42.51 | Adys | no he's not |
| 11:42.58 | Mike-N-Go | I thought I would need to decompress them? |
| 11:43.08 | Kalroth | aha |
| 11:43.13 | Adys | Where did you download it from? |
| 11:43.21 | Kalroth | your rar files are broken |
| 11:43.30 | Adys | yeah |
| 11:43.54 | Mike-N-Go | My most recent try was http://filevo.com/z9z7m0bpysiz.html |
| 11:44.24 | Mike-N-Go | Before that, http://wow.youthbox.net/ |
| 11:44.46 | Mike-N-Go | I started trying to get this to work 6 hours ago lol |
| 11:45.01 | Mike-N-Go | two corrupt rars latter.. |
| 11:45.09 | *** join/#wowuidev Limbero (~Limbero@c83-250-2-110.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 11:46.52 | Mike-N-Go | Adys, what should I try now..? |
| 11:46.57 | Adys | Mike-N-Go: you'll have better luck with the official installer |
| 11:47.03 | Adys | i can help you figure out why it doesn't work then |
| 11:47.15 | Mike-N-Go | That would be splended! |
| 11:47.31 | Adys | Inded |
| 11:48.48 | Fisker | sends Adys a butt in the mail |
| 11:50.52 | Mike-N-Go | Adys: What is there to be done? |
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| 11:51.08 | *** join/#wowuidev NoStress (~nostress@79.116.119.27) |
| 11:51.24 | Adys | Mike-N-Go: open the installer and tell me what doesn't work :) |
| 11:51.33 | Mike-N-Go | gasps. |
| 11:51.55 | Mike-N-Go | You mean the Downloader? |
| 11:52.07 | Adys | yes, the streaming installer |
| 11:52.11 | NoStress | Can anyone recommend some good pixel fonts? Currently using Visitor TT1. |
| 11:52.12 | Adys | which is an installer-downloader |
| 11:52.22 | Adys | NoStress: "pixel" font as in? |
| 11:52.28 | Kalroth | bitmap font? |
| 11:52.48 | Adys | i dont think that's what he meant |
| 11:53.03 | Kalroth | http://www.fontstock.net/5973/visitor-tt1--brk-.html it looks bitmappy to me! |
| 11:53.08 | NoStress | Yeah, bitmap font. |
| 11:53.18 | NoStress | I'm just used to calling them pixel fonts, sorry. |
| 11:53.25 | Mike-N-Go | "The tracker is not responding." |
| 11:53.33 | Mike-N-Go | It is sitting at 0 bytes. |
| 11:53.35 | Kalroth | Mike-N-Go: yell louder |
| 11:53.41 | Adys | Mike-N-Go: redownload it off worldofwarcraft.com |
| 11:53.59 | Kalroth | NoStress: What do you use the font for? |
| 11:54.12 | NoStress | Unitframes. |
| 11:54.22 | Adys | NoStress: bitmap fonts is a style of font storage; what you're looking for is not called bitmap font, it's Kalroth messing with you |
| 11:54.48 | Adys | im trying to find the one i saw the other day |
| 11:55.04 | NoStress | :) Thanks for clearing that up, Adys. |
| 11:56.22 | Mike-N-Go | DLed it again from https://us.battle.net/account/management/download/ |
| 11:56.23 | *** join/#wowuidev Esamynn|Away (~chatzilla@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Esamynn) |
| 11:56.23 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Esamynn|Away] by ChanServ |
| 11:57.15 | Adys | NoStress: do you need lowercase/uppercase differenciation? |
| 11:57.31 | Mike-N-Go | Adys: The tracker is not responding. |
| 11:57.39 | Adys | Mike-N-Go: do you use a proxy? |
| 11:57.40 | NoStress | Not really, no. I just want it readable. |
| 11:57.50 | Mike-N-Go | That is the text message it reads. |
| 11:57.51 | Adys | NoStress: how's this? http://www.dafont.com/silkscreen.font |
| 11:57.56 | Mike-N-Go | I do not use proxy |
| 11:59.21 | NoStress | Looks great, thanks. |
| 11:59.23 | Adys | NoStress: actually scratch that last link; http://www.dafont.com/type-writer.font should be better |
| 11:59.32 | Adys | the other one looks terrible at larger sizes |
| 11:59.46 | Maldivia | Mike-N-Go: the downloader/installer i watermarked with the IP that's used to download it, if the tracker doesn't see the same IP, it refuses the connection |
| 12:00.15 | Adys | yeah but he just redownloaded it |
| 12:00.39 | Mike-N-Go | I am behind a router. |
| 12:00.48 | Adys | that "shouldn't" matter |
| 12:00.54 | Adys | then again |
| 12:01.01 | Adys | there are some seriously ugly router setups |
| 12:01.05 | Adys | speaking by experience .. |
| 12:02.14 | *** join/#wowuidev Sum_Wun (~sumwun@cpe-173-175-86-153.stx.res.rr.com) |
| 12:02.41 | Mike-N-Go | It is a Belkin Wireless Pre-N Router. |
| 12:03.39 | Mike-N-Go | Now the tracker reads: Lost internet connection! |
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| 12:03.56 | Adys | Mike-N-Go: OS? |
| 12:04.00 | Wobin | Oh No! |
| 12:04.05 | mitch0 | find / -name 'internet connection' |
| 12:04.05 | Mike-N-Go | Mac 10.6.4 |
| 12:04.13 | cbreak_work | External IPs can change. A lot. |
| 12:04.17 | cbreak_work | so can internals |
| 12:04.31 | Adys | Mike-N-Go: how are you connected to your router? |
| 12:04.37 | cbreak_work | do not rely on them for identification unless you live in the days of the 4 server ARPA net |
| 12:04.42 | Mike-N-Go | My ISP serves me static IPs |
| 12:05.07 | Mike-N-Go | Adys: There is a Cat 5 cable between the router and 'puter. |
| 12:07.05 | Adys | Mike-N-Go: what's your browser? |
| 12:07.13 | Mike-N-Go | Safari 5.0.1 |
| 12:07.34 | Adys | long shot, can you install google chrome and try download the installer from there? |
| 12:08.08 | mitch0 | it won't fix it |
| 12:08.21 | mitch0 | :P |
| 12:08.37 | Adys | probably not, but if it does, he'll be so happy he'll keep chrome, and if it doesn't, there's a chance he still will |
| 12:09.02 | Adys | nethertheless im thinking about safari's download cache |
| 12:09.22 | Adys | how he could have downloaded the installer off another ip or some crap and when redownloading it it serves the old one |
| 12:09.24 | mitch0 | doesn't macos have fetch(1) ? |
| 12:09.46 | Mike-N-Go | I'll give the browser a try |
| 12:09.55 | Adys | --bnetcredentials=mikengo:ilovep3n1s? |
| 12:09.58 | Adys | :p |
| 12:10.52 | Mike-N-Go | Huh? |
| 12:11.17 | Adys | Mike-N-Go: was replying to mitch0 about fetch |
| 12:12.45 | Adys | pro |
| 12:13.15 | Mike-N-Go | Why is this so hard? |
| 12:13.38 | Adys | Kalroth: innuendo just called |
| 12:13.55 | krka | in YOUR endo |
| 12:13.59 | Kalroth | ! |
| 12:14.13 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:14.19 | Kalroth | Adys: I was busy decypher the dude wanting a good movie man |
| 12:14.40 | Kalroth | <GF|Froxy> any know good movie man |
| 12:14.57 | Mike-N-Go | Why is this so hard? |
| 12:15.12 | Kalroth | Mike-N-Go: Okay, you're making this too easy for me |
| 12:15.25 | Adys | How dare you think I'm easy! |
| 12:15.27 | Kalroth | 1) You're a Mac user - 2) ./shy, how did you know it is hard |
| 12:15.39 | Adys | No matter how hard it may be, that doesn't mean I'm easy. |
| 12:15.53 | Adys | Mike-N-Go: I really don't know at this point |
| 12:15.56 | Adys | well |
| 12:15.57 | Adys | I do know |
| 12:16.02 | Adys | the installer sucks balls |
| 12:16.11 | krka | you need to force it in deeper - that's what she said! |
| 12:16.23 | Mike-N-Go | I been beating my head against this for 7 hours now. |
| 12:17.54 | Adys | i don't think you're supposed to use your head |
| 12:18.05 | Adys | but after beating it 7 hours, no wonder it's hard |
| 12:18.38 | Mike-N-Go | crome dled |
| 12:18.48 | Mike-N-Go | rather, cromedled :) |
| 12:18.57 | Cairenn | o.O Adys! |
| 12:19.10 | Adys | Cairenn, hey. what. |
| 12:19.26 | Mike-N-Go | Cairenn: You just saw him? |
| 12:19.29 | Cairenn | Re-read what you wrote |
| 12:21.02 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ || 3.3.x ToC: 30300 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || 3.3.5 Patch Notes are up: http://cot.ag/aCj0Wy || Are you going to BlizzCon (Oct 22 & 23)? http://tinyurl.com/22kjfxu || Cataclysm Beta Keys for Authors! http://cot.ag/aG4uy6 or http://cot.ag/bYZvjt || but after beating it 7 hours, no wonder it's hard - Adys |
| 12:21.02 | Mike-N-Go | ¿ |
| 12:21.17 | Mike-N-Go | .. |
| 12:21.46 | sylvanaar_atwork | oh my |
| 12:21.47 | Adys | woot, i made the topic |
| 12:21.49 | Legorol | i don't think that quote qualifies for a sticky |
| 12:21.52 | Legorol | it wasnt accidental |
| 12:22.00 | Legorol | nor an innuendo or anything with alternate meaning |
| 12:22.15 | Adys | Legorol: After 7 hours, i don't think any of this qualifies as "sticky" anymore. |
| 12:22.23 | Legorol | ~slap Adys |
| 12:22.24 | purl | ACTION slaps Adys, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 12:22.28 | Adys | hahah. |
| 12:22.29 | Legorol | rofl |
| 12:22.35 | Mike-N-Go | Adys: Still not responding. |
| 12:22.38 | Legorol | omg, even purl is in on it |
| 12:22.49 | Cairenn | Legorol: it amused me, that's all that's required |
| 12:23.05 | Mike-N-Go | Cairenn: Are you sure the topic does not need, you know, some pretext? |
| 12:23.44 | Cairenn | Mike-N-Go: nope, that's the whole point - taking stuff out of context, to make people chuckle |
| 12:24.07 | Mike-N-Go | Cairenn: Then why am I chuckling; knowing the pretext?!?! |
| 12:24.48 | Cairenn | because you have a good (if warped) sense of humour |
| 12:25.26 | Mike-N-Go | I am afraid I am not tracking? |
| 12:26.59 | Mike-N-Go | Maybe it has something to do with only having 4 hours of sleep in the last 40 hours? |
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| 12:28.24 | Mike-N-Go | Adys: What should we try next? |
| 12:28.38 | Mike-N-Go | Don't tell me your going to quote the topic? |
| 12:29.05 | Adys | Sorry, I'm drawing a blank |
| 12:30.28 | Mike-N-Go | Maybe it is time I tether my iPhone/iPad to the 'puter and see if a change in internet will help? |
| 12:30.43 | Adys | yeah, could work |
| 12:30.47 | Adys | dont forget to redownload |
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| 12:31.47 | Mike-N-Go | Shame I have my 'droid out on loan.. |
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| 12:38.29 | Mike-N-Go | Me go sleep now. |
| 12:38.41 | Mike-N-Go | Thank you all for your diggillance! |
| 12:44.07 | Maldivia | *smirk* |
| 12:44.32 | Maldivia | (on readling backlog/topic :) |
| 12:46.54 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/1002644843 |
| 12:48.06 | Maldivia | Adys: you have to "read" the previous one to really appreciate it :P |
| 12:49.42 | Adys | :D |
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| 13:15.47 | Adys | ~wowiquotes |
| 13:15.48 | purl | http://www.teomyr.eu/wowuidev/irc-quotes |
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| 13:26.41 | Fisker | my back is itchy |
| 13:27.50 | Elkano | who slept on you this night? |
| 13:32.09 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/0dd2049ea2b140118d8f7c1d03608838.jpg |
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| 13:44.37 | Cairenn | huggles lopeppeppy |
| 13:44.45 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Cairenn! |
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| 13:50.59 | Fisker | nuketackles Lopeppeppy |
| 13:53.20 | Lopeppeppy | Ooh, Fisker, such a warm welcome. |
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| 13:53.44 | Fisker | very warm |
| 13:59.12 | |Jelly| | wow ... Peppy and Cairenn up and arounda t the same time |
| 13:59.19 | |Jelly| | SEXY TEIM! |
| 13:59.24 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 13:59.54 | Lopeppeppy | It happens occasionally, when one of us is either very good, or very bad. |
| 14:00.33 | |Jelly| | Or when one is really good WHILE the other is being really bad! |
| 14:01.50 | Lopeppeppy | Nevar! |
| 14:05.51 | |Jelly| | Ok well, coincidence time: shower/work teim! BBL! <3 |
| 14:06.17 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, showers! |
| 14:08.01 | Cairenn | brb |
| 14:09.04 | Lopeppeppy | Cairenn is showering with Jelly! |
| 14:11.15 | krka | i just read that last line and went O_o... then i saw that you meant |Jelly| and not actual jelly |
| 14:11.50 | Lopeppeppy | Well, strawberry is a good flavor for redheads. |
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| 14:21.52 | Thunder_Child | but so sticky |
| 14:22.08 | Thunder_Child | though, i guess that isnt an unusual outcome anyway |
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| 14:24.23 | |Jelly| | wow Cairenn .. SEXY TEIM! .. even after leaving |
| 14:24.49 | Lopeppeppy | Jelly in the shower doesn't have time to get sticky |
| 14:25.04 | Thunder_Child | well i assumed you mean instead of water |
| 14:25.21 | Lopeppeppy | Additive, not substitutive. |
| 14:28.35 | Wobin | is there an addon that filters vendors for recipes that can be learnt? |
| 14:30.37 | Yssaril | Wobin: http://www.wowace.com/addons/goblinvendorfilter/ <-- should be able to |
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| 14:41.31 | Wobin | Yssaril: awesome |
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| 14:47.37 | Adys | Maldivia: any idea what the Model.blob file is? |
| 14:47.39 | Adys | misc.mpq (trial) |
| 14:48.09 | Fisker | WoW on steam |
| 14:55.14 | Yssaril | Wobin: may i also recommend gnomishvendorshrinker it makes browsing vendors alot easier http://www.wowace.com/addons/gnomishvendorshrinker/ |
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| 15:03.15 | cog|work | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout. |
| 15:03.46 | cog|work | Yssaril: http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html |
| 15:04.01 | Fisker | slaps cog|work around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:05.02 | Maldivia | Adys: I noticed that file as well, and was puzzled by it |
| 15:05.15 | Yssaril | cog|work: lol i like that alot :P |
| 15:05.25 | cog|work | :) |
| 15:05.28 | Adys | Maldivia: is it in the live mpqs too? |
| 15:05.30 | Adys | (non-trial) |
| 15:05.43 | Maldivia | Adys: yes - patch-base-12694.MPQ |
| 15:05.47 | Maldivia | ohh, live... hmm |
| 15:06.08 | Adys | i saw it on live trial client |
| 15:06.38 | Maldivia | on live, World/model.blob is in patch2 |
| 15:06.47 | Shirik | tackles Lopeppeppy |
| 15:07.55 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Shirik! |
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| 15:10.49 | Adys | Maldivia: do me a favour - can you find a 12803 mpq in Betaroot/Updates ? |
| 15:11.01 | Adys | i only have 12635 12694 12759 |
| 15:11.12 | Maldivia | you wont have any yet |
| 15:11.17 | Maldivia | sice there is no patch TO 12803 |
| 15:11.24 | Maldivia | since* |
| 15:11.27 | Adys | you mean from 12803 |
| 15:11.34 | Maldivia | patch that apply to |
| 15:11.36 | Adys | why would it create it at that point? |
| 15:11.37 | Maldivia | so yeah |
| 15:11.46 | Maldivia | because then it would be downloaded from the server :) |
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| 15:12.35 | Adys | so what you mean to say is, when i downloaded wow-12759-Win-final.MPQ, it's for the 12759->12803 update? |
| 15:12.43 | Maldivia | yep |
| 15:12.49 | Adys | fucking.. |
| 15:13.29 | Maldivia | check version of wow.exe, is there a update with that version number, apply, rinse repeat |
| 15:13.47 | Shirik | what does Linus have against autotools? |
| 15:14.06 | Maldivia | it's a bunch of tools... |
| 15:14.27 | wereHamster | Shirik: do you like autotools? |
| 15:14.32 | Shirik | no |
| 15:14.46 | Shirik | I'm just trying to figure out why he never uses it |
| 15:14.49 | Shirik | because it's like "the standard" |
| 15:14.58 | Adys | theres a hundred different standards |
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| 15:15.12 | Adys | that's like asking someone why they don't use C++ when C is the standard, or the opposite |
| 15:15.19 | Shirik | not really |
| 15:15.35 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 15:16.43 | Shirik | I'm just saying Linus usually is very vocal on decisions like these |
| 15:16.46 | Shirik | like he hates C++ |
| 15:16.49 | Shirik | because he's a moron |
| 15:16.58 | Shirik | I just was wondering what his flawed reasoning was for not using autotools |
| 15:17.07 | Fisker | why is it flawed? |
| 15:17.22 | Shirik | because all of his arbitrary decisions are flawed |
| 15:17.36 | Shirik | and then he tries to back it up by saying "but I made Linux so nyah" |
| 15:18.19 | Fisker | cool story bro |
| 15:19.20 | wereHamster | anyones arbitrary decisions are flawed |
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| 15:23.10 | Shirik | omg so much win http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-23-2010/the-parent-company-trap |
| 15:24.36 | nicoli_s | so hilarious |
| 15:24.41 | nicoli_s | follow the money! |
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| 15:32.10 | Adys | Shirik: "videos are not available in your country" |
| 15:32.11 | Adys | assholes |
| 15:32.56 | Jamash | get a us proxy |
| 15:33.06 | Adys | not the point |
| 15:34.42 | Shirik | (diff) 08:25, 24 August 2010 Guoguo12 (Reverted good faith edits by FUCCK OSAMA BIN LADEN; Replace formatting . using TW) |
| 15:34.52 | Shirik | how are you going to call edits by a person named that "good faith" |
| 15:35.09 | cog|work | by using sarcasm |
| 15:35.13 | haste | Adys: it works in norway, amazingly enough |
| 15:35.49 | Shirik | Adys |
| 15:35.54 | Shirik | you still have not found Ackis for me |
| 15:36.09 | cog|work | Shirik: look in canada |
| 15:36.17 | Adys | ~seen ackis |
| 15:36.19 | purl | ackis is currently on #waruidev (5h 55m 36s) #sc2mapster (5h 55m 36s) #wowuidev (5h 55m 36s) #arl (5h 55m 36s) #wowace (5h 55m 36s) #curseforge (5h 55m 36s) #wowwiki (5h 55m 36s), last said: '~seen lua_bot'. |
| 15:36.29 | Adys | Aug 23 05:16:09 <Ackis> ~seen lua_bot |
| 15:37.17 | Shirik | (del/undel) 08:27, 24 August 2010 (diff | hist) User talk:FUCCK OSAMA BIN LADEN â (Warning: Your username might be against policy. using TW) (top) [rollback](AJAX) [rollback] [vandalism] |
| 15:37.20 | Shirik | "might" |
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| 15:37.41 | TC-Work | hmm..i know all of thoes but arl |
| 15:39.30 | robokitty | yeah |
| 15:39.46 | robokitty | I liked how he got that warning a minute AFTER he was banned xD |
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| 15:45.28 | alestane | http://www.threepanelsoul.com/view.php?date=2010-08-23 |
| 15:46.24 | mikma | how does palahealer work? :O |
| 15:46.47 | Shirik | batrick, you around? |
| 15:47.16 | Stanzilla | mikma: judge, shield, beacon, spam heal, done |
| 15:47.47 | mikma | stanzilla: okidoki |
| 15:48.05 | mikma | stanzilla: so, what judgement to use, and shield? :O |
| 15:48.11 | mikma | stanzilla: this is lvl65 paladin btw |
| 15:48.37 | Stanzilla | oh, wisdom for mana and holy shield, dunno when you get that |
| 15:49.50 | mikma | apparently at level 40 |
| 15:50.01 | Stanzilla | :) |
| 15:50.16 | mikma | yet i seem to lack that |
| 15:50.28 | mikma | maybe cause it's protection talent ;) |
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| 15:51.22 | Stanzilla | maybe cause i meant to say "sacred shield" |
| 15:51.44 | mikma | :D |
| 15:51.59 | mikma | lvl80 xD |
| 15:52.03 | Stanzilla | fail! |
| 15:52.59 | Shirik | le sigh |
| 15:53.00 | mikma | i don't get the judgement |
| 15:53.07 | Shirik | Kraps: Want to see something interesting I caused? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_adminship#Slowing_moving_edit_war_over_A3RO.27s_recent_votes |
| 15:53.11 | mikma | i'm not swinging at the mobs, so it's useless |
| 15:53.11 | Shirik | I blocked that guy |
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| 15:58.32 | Shirik | oh wow |
| 15:58.39 | Shirik | someone made an impersonation name of me and I didn't even notice |
| 15:58.54 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Shirek |
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| 15:59.48 | nicoli_s | thats me |
| 15:59.55 | nicoli_s | im impersonating you everywhere you go, badly |
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| 16:03.08 | batrick | Shirik: not for long |
| 16:03.09 | batrick | what' sup |
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| 16:03.36 | Shirik | you know nmap |
| 16:03.40 | batrick | yesw |
| 16:03.48 | Shirik | its default scan is supposed to be something like ports 1-1024 and then the listed ports, right? |
| 16:04.05 | batrick | default scan scans the top 1000 ports |
| 16:04.15 | Stanzilla | mikma: you get haste from judging, just not sure about low level :p |
| 16:04.20 | Shirik | oh ok |
| 16:04.23 | batrick | the top 1000 ports being the most commonly open (top 1000) according to some massive scans fyodor recently did |
| 16:04.24 | Shirik | that makes a lot more sense then |
| 16:04.27 | batrick | not 1-1000 |
| 16:04.46 | Shirik | I was wondering why it said "all 1000 scanned ports are..." |
| 16:04.57 | batrick | it's probably in the man page somewhere |
| 16:05.02 | batrick | if not let me know and i'll see that it's fixed |
| 16:05.03 | batrick | bbl |
| 16:06.05 | mikma | stanzilla: can you remember what brings that haste in? |
| 16:06.43 | Shirik | hahahahaha |
| 16:06.44 | Shirik | epic fail |
| 16:06.52 | Shirik | someone vandalized Wikipedia from a prison |
| 16:07.02 | Shirik | the news saw it |
| 16:07.07 | Shirik | and now it's being investigated |
| 16:07.16 | Shirik | I'm willing to bet it's very traceable |
| 16:07.41 | Arrowmaster | if its not, that prison has serious issues that need fixed |
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| 16:08.42 | Shirik | well it IS canada |
| 16:08.55 | Lopeppeppy | Blame canada! |
| 16:10.09 | alestane | Well, except for Cairenn, and maybe Esamynn. |
| 16:10.50 | Lopeppeppy | and my best friend, Dallas the Drestructor |
| 16:12.29 | Adys | Arrowmaster: you here? |
| 16:13.40 | Xinhuan | isn't today's top news about the manila hostage, not wikipedia vandalism? |
| 16:13.45 | Arrowmaster | Adys: yes |
| 16:13.51 | Adys | Arrowmaster: http://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git/?a=commitdiff;h=8c50936d30d6e1a83619f8fb8a273e9ceb9ebe3c |
| 16:13.54 | Shirik | nah |
| 16:13.56 | Shirik | we can blame Cairenn |
| 16:14.10 | Cairenn | sure you can, I do! |
| 16:14.12 | Arrowmaster | Adys: ok |
| 16:14.12 | Thrae | Hmm, 30" + 24" (horizontal) + 24" (horizontal) didn't work for me, but I think, maybe, 30" + 24" w/ 24" on top of it may work. |
| 16:14.57 | Adys | Arrowmaster: i did it for you :( |
| 16:14.59 | Adys | i love you |
| 16:15.00 | Adys | :( |
| 16:15.04 | Arrowmaster | i didnt need it |
| 16:15.12 | Adys | yeah but i was bored |
| 16:15.34 | Arrowmaster | if you are that bored go start making wine packages for debian |
| 16:15.50 | Adys | isnt there some guy already on that? |
| 16:15.55 | Adys | also im not THAT bored |
| 16:15.55 | Arrowmaster | 1.1.42 is still the latest from winehq |
| 16:16.07 | Arrowmaster | 1.1.3x is the latest in debian unstable |
| 16:16.25 | Adys | sounds about right. |
| 16:16.29 | Adys | you do use debian, don't you. |
| 16:16.34 | Arrowmaster | i do |
| 16:16.42 | Arrowmaster | im using the ubuntu ppa though for wine debs |
| 16:16.55 | Adys | you can prolly use the ubuntu one from winehq |
| 16:16.57 | Shirik | 0.9 is the latest in debian hardened |
| 16:17.28 | Arrowmaster | <judd> wine -- etch: 0.9.25-2.1; etch-backports: 1.0.0-1~bpo40+1; lenny: 1.0.1-1; sid: 1.0.1-3+b1; squeeze: 1.0.1-3+b1; experimental: 1.1.24-2 |
| 16:17.31 | Adys | 0.4.1-cvs1998 is the latest in "stable" |
| 16:17.43 | Arrowmaster | <judd> wine-unstable -- sid: 1.1.32-1+b1 |
| 16:17.45 | Adys | Dude what the fuck, 0.9.25 |
| 16:17.51 | Adys | ugh |
| 16:17.54 | Arrowmaster | etch is oldstable |
| 16:18.01 | Adys | yeah but still |
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| 16:18.14 | Stanzilla | mikma: judgements of the pure (talent) |
| 16:18.26 | Adys | debian's rules make no sense for wine |
| 16:18.29 | Arrowmaster | remember once debian goes stable they dont update packages, only backport bugs in them |
| 16:18.43 | Adys | the releases are bi-monthly no matter what, pretty much |
| 16:18.59 | Arrowmaster | Adys: those are unstable releases though |
| 16:19.07 | Adys | yeah |
| 16:19.11 | Adys | at least they could update to 1.0 |
| 16:19.24 | Arrowmaster | lenny has 1.0 |
| 16:19.42 | Arrowmaster | and if somebody gets on making packages again squeeze might have 1.2 when it releases |
| 16:19.51 | Adys | i dont know, debian scares me really bad |
| 16:20.09 | Adys | it's like being in the desert with half a bottle of water |
| 16:20.13 | Adys | and you get to fill it once a year |
| 16:20.28 | Lopeppeppy | You can always pee in the bottle. With predictible results. |
| 16:20.38 | Adys | Lopeppeppy: also, indian food |
| 16:20.50 | Lopeppeppy | You can put indian food in the bottle? |
| 16:20.54 | Adys | futurama quote |
| 16:20.55 | Adys | :( |
| 16:21.06 | Adys | "What comes out one end we feed to the other. Also, indian food." |
| 16:22.07 | Arrowmaster | the eyephone ep? |
| 16:22.11 | Adys | yeah |
| 16:22.33 | Arrowmaster | that was a good jab at society |
| 16:22.52 | Adys | A poke in the eye if you ask me. |
| 16:22.55 | Adys | snirks |
| 16:23.38 | cog|work | http://morrisonworldnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Electron-microscope-image-of-a-maggot-002-396x400.jpg |
| 16:23.56 | Shirik | omg awesome |
| 16:24.01 | Arrowmaster | are those eyes? |
| 16:24.39 | Arrowmaster | well i have to run |
| 16:24.43 | cog|work | dunno |
| 16:25.49 | Adys | cog|work: original article? |
| 16:26.10 | cog|work | Adys: dunno... someone posted this on facebook: It turns out that under an electron microscope, a maggot looks fucking hilarious. http://bit.ly/91AtuY |
| 16:26.13 | cog|work | that's all i know |
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| 16:26.59 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6D7rWLzloOI |
| 16:27.19 | Adys | cog|work: ugh, i cant even load their website |
| 16:27.20 | Lopeppeppy | most bugs look weird when magnified. |
| 16:27.24 | Adys | fucking slow flash bullshit |
| 16:27.47 | Wobin | http://www.onorbit.com/node/2440 |
| 16:27.54 | Shirik | ok |
| 16:27.58 | nicoli_s | adys:how goes yer webgl stuff? |
| 16:27.59 | Shirik | why does Esperanto have a flag? |
| 16:28.06 | Shirik | since when do languages have flags? |
| 16:28.08 | Adys | nicoli_s: too busy with other stuff |
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| 16:28.27 | nicoli_s | i hear that |
| 16:28.37 | nicoli_s | i havent had the time to touch my sc2 map editor in weeks :( |
| 16:28.45 | Adys | mainly, too busy coding features for Arrowmaster he doesn't even want anymore! |
| 16:29.29 | Adys | also ive been working on maps, diffs/patches and new formats lately |
| 16:29.32 | Adys | no time for models |
| 16:29.46 | nicoli_s | fun |
| 16:29.59 | nicoli_s | ive got to start working on FFXIV's dat format soon, not gonna be fun i know |
| 16:30.21 | Adys | dat? |
| 16:30.25 | Adys | isnt that a steam format? |
| 16:30.34 | nicoli_s | dunno, havent looked too much into it |
| 16:30.40 | nicoli_s | looks to be a generic container to me |
| 16:30.48 | nicoli_s | where it can contain one or many other data types |
| 16:32.06 | nicoli_s | but like no filenames or anything, which is gonna be a pain in the ass |
| 16:33.17 | Adys | nicoli_s: compressed maybe? |
| 16:33.50 | nicoli_s | Adys:im sure some are, but theres plain text visible in alot of files |
| 16:34.27 | Adys | maybe a compressed listfile-like type of file? |
| 16:34.37 | nicoli_s | no theres def no filenames in there |
| 16:34.52 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:34.52 | Fisker | slaps nicoli_s around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:34.55 | Adys | what does it actually contain? |
| 16:34.59 | nicoli_s | ive looked at how it was done in ffxi, and they pretty much just equate file numbers with arbritary filenames they come up with |
| 16:35.13 | nicoli_s | all the game files other than the models + script files |
| 16:35.38 | cog|work | slaps Fisker around with a large electron-magnified maggot with a foreskin |
| 16:36.36 | alestane | Ooh, ouch: http://www.textsfromlastnight.com/Text-Replies-19925.html |
| 16:36.53 | nicoli_s | very ouch |
| 16:36.57 | Adys | nicoli_s: do me a favour, if you start working on a gui for a dat browser, gimme a poke |
| 16:37.02 | nicoli_s | will do |
| 16:37.11 | cog|work | horseradish powder would've been better imo |
| 16:37.25 | Adys | nicoli_s: I'll beg you to do it in c++/qt or python/qt |
| 16:37.26 | Adys | :p |
| 16:37.39 | nicoli_s | Adys:no way, i love building guis with C#, so easy |
| 16:37.44 | nicoli_s | though i do hear good things about qt |
| 16:37.49 | Adys | Qt is amazing |
| 16:37.52 | Adys | Shirik: tell him |
| 16:38.16 | Shirik | Qt is amazing |
| 16:38.21 | Adys | there |
| 16:38.23 | Adys | you heard it |
| 16:38.24 | Shirik | however I might have to use C# for my next project :( |
| 16:38.30 | Adys | build with qt or you get kickbanned |
| 16:38.33 | nicoli_s | i dont see that as a :( shirik |
| 16:38.44 | Fisker | hey cog|work |
| 16:38.44 | Shirik | lack of portability is always a :( |
| 16:38.55 | Fisker | i ported you to my mom Shirik |
| 16:39.03 | nicoli_s | well if yer releasing the software yeah |
| 16:39.22 | Adys | one of my unstarted projects is to rebuild mpqeditor in qt |
| 16:40.21 | alestane | ??? http://clientsfromhell.net/post/1003735788/can-you-make-the-download-button-fly-all-around ??? |
| 16:41.22 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, they say those things. Trust me. |
| 16:41.55 | alestane | No, I believe it. |
| 16:42.42 | Fisker | i was once told that a screen had a pixel error |
| 16:42.45 | Fisker | so i said i would look at it |
| 16:43.19 | Fisker | When i opened it up it had several vertical lines going down, and the entire right corner just scrambled like it was gibberish, plus a black spot, probably from an impact |
| 16:43.30 | Fisker | i herp derpd |
| 16:43.58 | alestane | Technologically superior, maybe, but maddeningly unusable. |
| 16:44.38 | Lopeppeppy | People have funny ideas of what is "good" and "better". They think gimmicks still work. |
| 16:47.26 | alestane | They work excellent well for reducing traffic. |
| 16:48.47 | Lopeppeppy | and revenue |
| 16:49.04 | alestane | No traffic means no sales, yes. |
| 16:49.46 | alestane | Especially when people can't even complete their transaction without jumping through hoops designed solely to make completing the transaction harder. |
| 16:50.07 | Adys | alestane: but that means our clients spend more time on the website |
| 16:50.13 | Adys | which is a good thing, they see our logo longer |
| 16:50.28 | Adys | which reminds me, can you make the logo twice the size of the page? |
| 16:51.37 | nicoli_s | and also make the page bigger |
| 16:52.00 | Lopeppeppy | Can you make the logo jump around so they have to chase it in order to click through the entrance page into the rest of the site? We want them to really remember our logo!! |
| 16:52.50 | alestane | ...This is a hint from the DM: THEY DON'T CARE THAT MUCH. |
| 16:55.19 | Lopeppeppy | Doesn't care must be MADE to care! With obnoxious tricks!! |
| 17:07.53 | Shirik | ~shirik |
| 17:07.53 | purl | methinks shirik is "If I had to sum up my life, I'd have to say, the one thing I hate doing is nothing." --Shirik |
| 17:07.56 | Shirik | jnwhiteh^ |
| 17:09.17 | Shirik | http://www.geekogle.com/2010/ka-cha-get-all-ninja-y-on-rainy-days/ |
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| 17:12.55 | KarlKFI|work | i'm so getting one or both of those... |
| 17:13.29 | alestane | I need a new umbrella... |
| 17:13.39 | Lopeppeppy | The tanto would barely cover your knees, KarlKFI|work! |
| 17:13.54 | KarlKFI|work | that one's just for keeping in the car |
| 17:14.06 | KarlKFI|work | just in case |
| 17:14.43 | alestane | You can lead a horse to water, Lopeppeppy, but you can't make them care. |
| 17:15.11 | KarlKFI|work | http://www.thinkgeek.com/images/action/large/2130d07.jpg |
| 17:15.34 | KarlKFI|work | socks with sandles baby |
| 17:16.09 | KarlKFI|work | my umbrella did dissapear last winter |
| 17:16.18 | nicoli_s | i wear socks with sandles when it gets too cold |
| 17:16.47 | KarlKFI|work | so do ipods |
| 17:17.23 | Lopeppeppy | I want to teach you to wear *pants* and *shoes* when you're cold, nicoli_s! |
| 17:18.03 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvUQQF5S4Dg |
| 17:18.27 | KarlKFI|work | stop lying Lopeppeppy |
| 17:18.35 | KarlKFI|work | you know you really dont |
| 17:18.54 | KarlKFI|work | there are much better ways to stay warm than pants |
| 17:19.08 | Lopeppeppy | How do you know? *scoff* Fashionista could be my middle name! |
| 17:19.26 | nicoli_s | hey sandles are shoes too |
| 17:19.27 | alestane | Peppy wouldn't wear socks if her feet didn't get cold. |
| 17:19.30 | nicoli_s | and i just like being comfy |
| 17:19.33 | nicoli_s | is that such a crime? |
| 17:20.19 | KarlKFI|work | like: http://superiormartialarts.com/images16/1501.g%5B1%5D.jpg |
| 17:20.34 | Shirik | nicoli_s: Yes |
| 17:20.53 | Lopeppeppy | Hakama could be warm, yes. |
| 17:20.55 | alestane | Kendo dohgi with hakama. |
| 17:32.40 | mikma | http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/kitchen/cc91/ |
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| 17:40.40 | KarlKFI|work | sounds like a mixed drink |
| 17:40.51 | KarlKFI|work | absynth and OJ |
| 17:43.56 | Shirik | "Halt and Catch Fire, known by the mnemonic HCF, refers to several computer machine code instructions that cause the CPU to cease meaningful operation. The expression "catch fire" is usually intended as a joke; in most cases the CPU does not actually catch fire." |
| 17:44.00 | Shirik | I like the "in most cases" |
| 17:45.07 | alestane | I presume that once meaningful operation has been ceased, it can't be restored with any continuity to the previous period of such. |
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| 17:46.50 | Pneumatus | acronym != mnemonic |
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| 17:54.08 | Shirik | .................................... |
| 17:54.10 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uT0JOIPxyE8 |
| 17:55.10 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV-AFnCkRLY |
| 17:55.49 | Shirik | NightHawkTheSane, did you do that? |
| 17:56.22 | NightHawkTheSane | hah, i wish. |
| 17:56.25 | Shirik | no you don't |
| 17:56.31 | Shirik | that guy is the reason I hate most computer scientists |
| 17:56.39 | Shirik | zero development process |
| 17:57.00 | NightHawkTheSane | (well, i meant mostly i wish in that I wish i knew java) |
| 17:57.18 | NightHawkTheSane | but yeah, that was my complaint about it as well, it belies what software dev actually is. Still, it's entertaining to watch. |
| 18:01.58 | nicoli_s | whats a development process? |
| 18:02.25 | Shirik | something people that like C# don't use |
| 18:02.50 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 18:02.58 | nicoli_s | well i remember you saying at some point you liked C# |
| 18:03.03 | Adys | Google is getting very serious about Orkut |
| 18:03.05 | Pneumatus | development process = writing junit tests |
| 18:03.06 | Shirik | It's an interesting language |
| 18:03.15 | Shirik | it has flaws |
| 18:03.21 | nicoli_s | i just close my eyes and let the code flow through me |
| 18:03.24 | Shirik | not the least of which is portability |
| 18:03.42 | NightHawkTheSane | nicoli_s: i do that with beer. |
| 18:03.59 | Adys | kd3: ping |
| 18:04.25 | Adys | or anyone with the cata client installed? |
| 18:04.55 | Shirik | like me? |
| 18:04.57 | Adys | yes |
| 18:04.58 | Adys | c20b0477042f5a7c88fb6464135f2c5a wow/cata/Updates/wow-12759-Win-final.MPQ |
| 18:05.00 | Adys | confirm please |
| 18:05.05 | Shirik | um |
| 18:05.08 | Shirik | I'll need to update first |
| 18:06.11 | Shirik | ~wiki User talk:Jackjackjr |
| 18:07.23 | Sesshu | http://nmap.org/favicon/?q=wowinterface.com |
| 18:09.43 | cbreak | Adys: strange |
| 18:10.09 | cbreak | I am on OS X, and I have both Win and OSX versions of those MPQs |
| 18:10.16 | Adys | yeah thats normal |
| 18:10.28 | Adys | it's called blizz being too lazy to wrap shit in ifdefs |
| 18:10.40 | cbreak | SHA1(../Shared/World of Warcraft Beta/Updates/wow-12759-Win-final.MPQ)= 9c56850615da7d751c6c30d76f529096dd9816c3 |
| 18:10.47 | Adys | ta |
| 18:11.03 | cbreak | not sure if it's complete |
| 18:11.08 | cbreak | I am not done with live downloading |
| 18:11.14 | Adys | it's complete |
| 18:11.29 | Adys | it's basically the part before even the red part on the launcher |
| 18:11.35 | Adys | you cant start wow without |
| 18:11.46 | Shirik | Cidan |
| 18:11.49 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:11.49 | Adys | but wow this build broke a lot of shit |
| 18:11.53 | cbreak | oh, an other patch |
| 18:12.00 | cbreak | 12803 |
| 18:12.04 | Shirik | Cidan: Terran |
| 18:12.06 | Adys | yes |
| 18:12.47 | Pneumatus | 188539c05fd882ac6a200442dfe38ffc as the md5sum on mine if that helps |
| 18:12.54 | cbreak | md5 is old |
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| 18:12.57 | Fisker | who uses md5 anyway? |
| 18:13.00 | Fisker | baw cbreak |
| 18:13.20 | Shirik | ok so |
| 18:13.23 | Shirik | I can't actually update my beta client |
| 18:13.27 | Shirik | it never starts up |
| 18:13.38 | cbreak | Fisker: certain CAs did... then the Chaos Computer Congress had some people who used that weakness to create their own official Google SSL keys :) |
| 18:13.53 | cbreak | I just opened the launcher and it downloads stuff |
| 18:14.02 | Shirik | it doesn't open the launcher |
| 18:14.15 | cbreak | I open the launcher directly |
| 18:14.30 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:14.39 | alestane | Okay, I'm finding this hilarious: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_osQvkeNRM |
| 18:15.07 | Shirik | Blizzard Launcher has stopped working |
| 18:15.14 | Shirik | A problem caused the program to stop working correctly. |
| 18:15.19 | cbreak | hmm :/ |
| 18:15.43 | Shirik | An unhandled exception has occurred in Launcher.exe [4288]. Possible debuggers: Visual Studio 2010, Visual Studio 2008 |
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| 18:16.14 | Caleb| | 9c56850615da7d751c6c30d76f529096dd9816c3 *wow-12759-Win-final.MPQ SHA1 for me |
| 18:16.21 | Maldivia | Shirik: tried extracting the launcher and wow.exe file from the base.mpq file ? |
| 18:16.36 | Shirik | I should just re-download the client |
| 18:16.40 | Caleb| | and my client is up to date at least launcher is green |
| 18:17.02 | Maldivia | Caleb|: same sha1 here |
| 18:17.05 | Shirik | Unhandled exception at 0x772f598e in Launcher.exe: 0xC0000005: Access violation reading location 0x61747376. |
| 18:17.24 | Shirik | 772F5988 je 772D8ADF |
| 18:17.24 | Shirik | 772F598E cmp dword ptr [ecx+8],0 |
| 18:17.30 | Shirik | someone would ask how the hell it got there in the first place |
| 18:17.39 | Shirik | oh nm |
| 18:17.40 | Shirik | I read it wrong |
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| 18:17.58 | Shirik | Cide! |
| 18:18.00 | Shirik | I was waiting for you |
| 18:18.00 | Maldivia | Shirik: which version of the launcher is that ? |
| 18:18.03 | Cide | hi Shirik |
| 18:18.03 | Shirik | we need to play some games |
| 18:18.06 | Shirik | Maldivia: Very old |
| 18:18.12 | Cide | you need to figure out the issue I was having first |
| 18:18.50 | Maldivia | I wonder if the beta-tool update today was to fix the buggy .exe patching |
| 18:20.33 | Pneumatus | either that or perhaps when you start downloading a patch then close the launcher and restart it, the second run it stays red till 100% |
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| 18:25.59 | cbreak | a few days ago, WoW always crashed right when logging in |
| 18:26.08 | Fisker | old cbreak |
| 18:26.10 | Fisker | easily fixed |
| 18:26.15 | cbreak | some assertion got hit with a model |
| 18:26.18 | cbreak | how? |
| 18:26.27 | Fisker | deleting your cache |
| 18:26.32 | cbreak | anyway, 1.2gb to go |
| 18:26.33 | nevcairiel | goblin models are broken, anyway |
| 18:26.36 | cbreak | convenient. |
| 18:27.00 | cbreak | shouldn't it invalidate caches automatically? :) |
| 18:27.34 | Fisker | there are 2 caches now |
| 18:27.46 | Fisker | guessing it's not updated to handle the second set yet |
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| 18:29.00 | alestane | http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/08/im_doomed_now.php "I'm in big trouble. My wife is sending me pictures of cute puppy dogs to make me feel better. |
| 18:29.03 | alestane | "Where's the slime? The chitin? The tentacles? How is this supposed to cheer me up?" |
| 18:29.34 | Dagmar | alestane: Oh you need THAT type of cheering up. How about this: http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-23-2010/the-parent-company-trap |
| 18:29.51 | alestane | I think I saw that. |
| 18:30.15 | Dagmar | It's awesomeness |
| 18:31.07 | alestane | Okay, that wasn't the one I saw. |
| 18:31.50 | alestane | "We just got the results of your tests from last week. Your heart is a shriveled black lump starved of charity, decency, charm, and kindness," she said, "a gristly godless clot of marginally functional fibers. You need to go back to Abbott for more tests, and the doctors want to crack your chest and marvel at you." |
| 18:31.51 | cbreak | where are the second caches? |
| 18:32.07 | Dagmar | alestane: hahaha |
| 18:32.25 | Fisker | lold alestane |
| 18:32.37 | Fisker | nothing like ad hominem to drive your arguments against fox |
| 18:32.43 | alestane | 'And the doctor spoke with the voice of Doom and the terrifying tone of I-hold-your-life-in-my-hands-you-dope and she quoth (paraphrased somewhat): "YOU ARE GOING TO DIE SUDDENLY, ABRUPTLY, WITHOUT WARNING UNLESS WE FIX YOU RIGHT NOW. GO. NOW. DO NOT ARGUE WITH ME." ' |
| 18:32.55 | Dagmar | Fisker: There's no ad hominems here |
| 18:33.42 | Dagmar | "Let's break this down... She didn't know what ignoramus meant, so she looked it up, and she still got it wrong." |
| 18:34.09 | Fisker | Because they're obviously right by portraying her as stupid |
| 18:34.16 | Fisker | (i.e. ad hominem) |
| 18:34.30 | Dagmar | That doesn't make it an ad hominem |
| 18:34.41 | alestane | 'A few years ago, a group of people dressed up as zombies for a protest march and got arrested for it. |
| 18:34.41 | alestane | 'When arrested at the intersection of Hennepin Avenue and 6th Street N., most of them had thick white powder and fake blood on their faces and dark makeup around their eyes. They were walking in a stiff, lurching fashion and carrying four bags of sound equipment to amplify music from an iPod when they were arrested by police who said they were carrying equipment that simulated "weapons of mass destruction."' |
| 18:34.52 | Fisker | sure does Dagmar |
| 18:35.03 | Dagmar | You are really crap at latin, Fisker |
| 18:35.13 | Fisker | Not really |
| 18:35.29 | Dagmar | A rather important point about ad hominems is that they present a distorted or inaccurate viewpoint. |
| 18:35.34 | Fisker | What is this? The 3rd or 4th time you've tried to play the dictionary card and then have ended up having to ignore me because it turned out you were wrong? |
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| 18:35.48 | Dagmar | Those people are somewhat obviously, dumb as rocks. |
| 18:36.52 | Dagmar | It's not a premise, it's a conclusion, dude. |
| 18:37.23 | Fisker | kool-aid, too much, drinking, etc. |
| 18:37.28 | Dagmar | ...and ad hominems are not automatically fallacious at any rate. |
| 18:38.07 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/the_expendables.jpg |
| 18:38.17 | Dagmar | I wouldn't be suprised to hear that the "big bad moslem guy" has called up Fox and asked for an accounting of their behaviour. |
| 18:38.50 | Dagmar | 'cuz you know, if I owned such a very large part of a big-ass company, and they started calling me a terorrist, I'd be a little irritated. |
| 18:39.13 | Dagmar | mikma: Yah that dude's a nut. Hehe |
| 18:39.32 | Dagmar | He's also got some Old Spice commercials. |
| 18:39.33 | mikma | gotta love him, really |
| 18:39.47 | Dagmar | Oh I do, he's great |
| 18:39.48 | mikma | dagmar: he's not in them afaik |
| 18:40.01 | alestane | Here is a rather strange but entertaining piece of geek culturification (Very much NOT safe for work): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1IxOS4VzKM&feature=player_embedded |
| 18:40.08 | Dagmar | Shopped or not, I'd bet the guy will probably see that and think "damnit, why didn't I think of that" |
| 18:40.28 | mikma | dagmar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JAis-ATxnc |
| 18:41.49 | mikma | dagmar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72gVUIPoR9o !!!!! :D |
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| 18:42.34 | Dagmar | You may have forgotten about these http://adweek.blogs.com/adfreak/2010/04/old-spice-blows-up-more-terry-crews-spots.html |
| 18:43.28 | mikma | oh man, it was him :D |
| 18:43.50 | Dagmar | Yes. Some of the commercials he did for Old Spice were almost surreal they were so over the top |
| 18:43.58 | Dagmar | The new guy is just really, really slick |
| 18:46.08 | mikma | dagmar: http://www.youtube.com/user/OldSpice <- that's so awesome also :D |
| 18:51.51 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/50cal.jpg |
| 18:52.10 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/1150338234396.jpg |
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| 19:12.19 | Shirik | I love how redundant my program is |
| 19:12.22 | Shirik | I wrote a challenge 24 solver |
| 19:12.28 | Shirik | I gave it the easy card of "7, 7, 5, 5" |
| 19:12.32 | Shirik | these are the solutions it came up with |
| 19:13.47 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/139968 |
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| 19:13.58 | Shirik | I think I need to teach it associativity |
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| 19:19.05 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:39.03 | Adys | So |
| 19:39.13 | Adys | did anyone notice how serious google is getting about Orkut these days? |
| 19:41.19 | zenzelezz | not really |
| 19:41.24 | zenzelezz | are they? |
| 19:41.28 | sylvanaar_atwork | if they were serious they'd change the name |
| 19:41.44 | Alram | i dont even know what it is |
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| 19:41.57 | Adys | they already changed the layout, added a bunch of features |
| 19:42.05 | Adys | and they post like 5-6 times more often on their dev blog |
| 19:42.06 | sylvanaar_atwork | yes but the name is stupid |
| 19:42.18 | Adys | facebook is so much better. |
| 19:42.37 | Shirik | whoops |
| 19:42.45 | Shirik | apparently I was releasing information I wasn't supposed to |
| 19:42.56 | Shirik | in the news today: Rockwell Collins has revealed that it is to be the flight control system provider to Boeing/Insitu for the US Navy's small tactical unmanned air system (STUAS) program. |
| 19:43.06 | Shirik | I thought this was public knowledge >.> |
| 19:46.18 | nicoli_s | your name is rockwell collins? |
| 19:47.06 | Shirik | no |
| 19:47.09 | Shirik | fool |
| 19:47.15 | Shirik | just saying Rockwell Collins just now released this info |
| 19:47.31 | nevcairiel | and you told everyone before? :p |
| 19:47.39 | Shirik | not everyone |
| 19:47.51 | Shirik | actually very few people |
| 19:48.00 | Shirik | but I wasn't aware they were withholding that |
| 19:48.00 | Adys | he told me |
| 19:48.06 | Shirik | no I didn't shut up |
| 19:48.17 | Adys | and i told kalroth after that |
| 19:48.22 | Shirik | I'm going to hurt you |
| 19:48.41 | Adys | you're gonna have to hurt kalroth too. |
| 19:48.48 | Shirik | find Ackis for me |
| 19:48.56 | Adys | Why, did you tell him too? |
| 19:49.04 | Adys | are you trying to kill him before the truth comes out? |
| 19:49.10 | Shirik | I NEEDZ HIM |
| 19:49.20 | Shirik | I've needed him for like 2 weeks lol |
| 19:49.21 | Adys | a man's got his needs. |
| 19:49.30 | jnwhiteh | Adys: http://wowprogramming.com/forums/website/37#1 suggestions? |
| 19:49.34 | jnwhiteh | other than hating IE? =) |
| 19:49.42 | Adys | H8 IE |
| 19:50.06 | Adys | jnwhiteh: would need a screenshot at least |
| 19:50.10 | Adys | im not sure what he means |
| 19:50.15 | Adys | but it's a float issue for certain |
| 19:50.15 | nicoli_s | jnwhiteh:if you have ie9 you can force ie8 rendering mode |
| 19:50.32 | Adys | i think jn is on mac os |
| 19:50.35 | jnwhiteh | i am |
| 19:50.38 | jnwhiteh | as the post says =) |
| 19:50.39 | nicoli_s | ahh |
| 19:50.44 | jnwhiteh | or rather says I dont have access to IE8 |
| 19:50.46 | Adys | who reads what you write. |
| 19:50.50 | jnwhiteh | noone. |
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| 19:51.31 | Adys | jnwhiteh: did it use to work? |
| 19:51.46 | jnwhiteh | no, its been broken since we changed the header |
| 19:51.52 | jnwhiteh | to make the logo clickable |
| 19:52.00 | jnwhiteh | it was a background image previously and wasn't clickable |
| 19:52.04 | Adys | ok, can you try shit like removing position:absolute on the header |
| 19:52.04 | jnwhiteh | and you asked for a change =) |
| 19:52.06 | Adys | or the left float |
| 19:52.31 | Adys | or well |
| 19:52.35 | Adys | you could go the simple route |
| 19:52.41 | Adys | and makethe search box absolute too |
| 19:52.52 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 19:52.54 | Adys | stuff that in an ie.css |
| 19:53.11 | Adys | position:absolute; right:0px; top:0px; |
| 19:53.15 | Adys | tweak as needed |
| 19:53.49 | jnwhiteh | seems silly when I can't even replicate the issue at the moment without pain |
| 19:53.55 | jnwhiteh | i'm just lazy |
| 19:53.58 | jnwhiteh | but i'll mess with it, thanks. |
| 19:54.04 | Adys | I feel your pain |
| 19:54.15 | Adys | my boss asks me to "write for ie" when i don't even have it, too |
| 19:54.19 | Adys | stares at Bibi |
| 19:54.25 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 19:55.56 | nicoli_s | im so glad most of my websites have low IE % |
| 19:56.15 | nicoli_s | i feel bad for some of our team, the website they just launched has like nearly 60% IE |
| 19:56.30 | Adys | stuff chrome ads on them |
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| 19:57.09 | haste | do as norway! |
| 19:57.26 | haste | http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2009/02/norwegian-websi/ |
| 19:57.51 | Adys | haha yay |
| 19:58.01 | Adys | chrome is > IE on the db :) |
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| 19:58.13 | Adys | when i started it, chrome was at 4% |
| 19:58.16 | Adys | it's now at 21% |
| 19:58.26 | nicoli_s | nice |
| 19:58.30 | Adys | IE was > 50%, it's now at 18% |
| 19:58.32 | nicoli_s | we have a pretty high chrome % too |
| 19:58.33 | Adys | holy shit. nice |
| 19:58.50 | Shirik | jnwhiteh: I can reproduce |
| 19:59.02 | Adys | congratulations Shirik |
| 19:59.05 | jnwhiteh | Shirik: any idea how I can fix it? =) |
| 19:59.10 | Adys | Cairenn|afk: wanna stuff that in the channel? |
| 19:59.14 | nicoli_s | Firefox 54% |
| 19:59.14 | nicoli_s | Chrome 25% |
| 19:59.14 | nicoli_s | IE: 12% |
| 19:59.17 | nicoli_s | for my newest site |
| 19:59.18 | Adys | or am I gonna be hard alone. |
| 19:59.29 | Shirik | if (userIsUsingIE) die("Sorry you can't view this page"); |
| 19:59.31 | Adys | yep, Im at 48% firefox |
| 19:59.40 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 19:59.58 | Adys | jnwhiteh: imo, display:none on #search for ie |
| 20:00.02 | Adys | that's what I would do |
| 20:00.15 | jnwhiteh | its the login header as well |
| 20:00.21 | Adys | too bad. |
| 20:00.24 | jnwhiteh | they're getting cleared, I think |
| 20:00.26 | jnwhiteh | well |
| 20:00.34 | jnwhiteh | I'd rather not discourage people from contributing =) |
| 20:00.49 | Adys | I wouldn't want IE users contributing to my sites |
| 20:01.02 | Adys | unless it's to share their bad experiences with their browser |
| 20:01.31 | Adys | i found that, over time, prejudice and assholery are not as bad as you can think they are |
| 20:02.01 | Adys | and assuming that someone using a certain set of software is of absolutely fuck all use to you tends to lead to a whole lot of time saved |
| 20:02.06 | Adys | but then again |
| 20:02.30 | Adys | i dont call the shots for others people. (unfortunately) :P |
| 20:02.44 | Shirik | jnwhiteh, everything seems normal |
| 20:02.52 | Shirik | you have a few markup errors but I expect even IE to handle that OK |
| 20:02.54 | Adys | Shirik: and then the cage comes down |
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| 20:03.30 | Adys | jesus christ |
| 20:03.32 | jnwhiteh | Shirik: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://wowprogramming.com/&charset=(detect+automatically)&doctype=Inline&group=0 |
| 20:03.33 | jnwhiteh | ? |
| 20:03.36 | Adys | 80% of my users have java enabled |
| 20:03.38 | jnwhiteh | what markup errors are you seeing? |
| 20:03.48 | Shirik | http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://wowprogramming.com/forums/website/37%231&charset=(detect+automatically)&doctype=Inline&group=0 |
| 20:03.50 | Adys | i didnt know it was so high... sigh |
| 20:03.57 | jnwhiteh | ah different page |
| 20:03.59 | jnwhiteh | figures =) |
| 20:04.06 | Shirik | primarily based on <ul></ul> is illegal |
| 20:04.12 | Shirik | but that shouldn't do anything |
| 20:04.15 | jnwhiteh | ah |
| 20:04.21 | jnwhiteh | yeah that's all very after this |
| 20:04.24 | jnwhiteh | the main page is a better example |
| 20:04.52 | Adys | nicoli_s: I have 700 users using IE w/ chrome frame |
| 20:04.53 | Adys | lol. |
| 20:05.06 | KarlKFI|work | wow rly? |
| 20:05.28 | Adys | yeah |
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| 20:06.18 | KarlKFI|work | on the plus side, my work recently decided to stop supporting IE6 |
| 20:06.34 | KarlKFI|work | on the down side we have 100+ users still on windows 2k |
| 20:06.46 | Adys | dude |
| 20:06.55 | Adys | I have 6 users with netscape |
| 20:07.07 | Adys | I'm scared |
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| 20:07.26 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 20:07.29 | nicoli_s | netscape? really? |
| 20:07.33 | Adys | yeah |
| 20:07.36 | Adys | 35 visits total |
| 20:07.40 | nicoli_s | any using AOL? :P |
| 20:07.51 | Adys | doesnt say |
| 20:08.22 | Adys | like fucktons of android browsers |
| 20:08.24 | Spejnar | holy crap, handling real combat events in a not-sucky way was easier said than done, looking at skadas approach just makes me want to cry |
| 20:08.35 | Shirik | I have a wild guess |
| 20:08.47 | Shirik | chrome claims that your search bar is overriding an earlier display:block |
| 20:09.01 | Shirik | wild guess: IE isn't handling this override properly |
| 20:09.17 | Adys | you are so wild |
| 20:09.18 | Adys | i guess |
| 20:09.33 | alestane | Out of how many, Adys? |
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| 20:09.56 | Shirik | oh I am very wild Adys |
| 20:10.04 | Adys | sometimes like 1.2M alestane |
| 20:10.19 | Adys | s/imes/hing/ |
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| 20:10.31 | alestane | Are these users people you're oficially responsible for supporting? |
| 20:10.36 | Shirik | jnwhiteh: I'm pretty sure that's what it is |
| 20:10.41 | Adys | alestane: i dont know |
| 20:10.43 | Shirik | because when I disable the "display:inline" override |
| 20:10.48 | Shirik | chrome looks EXACTLY like IE |
| 20:10.57 | Adys | dude |
| 20:10.57 | jnwhiteh | ah .. hrm. |
| 20:10.59 | Adys | dont fucking say that |
| 20:11.02 | jnwhiteh | which disable:inline? |
| 20:11.26 | Shirik | I take that back |
| 20:11.32 | Shirik | I definitely just opened the IE window instead of Chrome |
| 20:11.36 | jnwhiteh | haha |
| 20:12.03 | Maldivia | so IE looked "EXACTLY" like IE? :) |
| 20:12.35 | KarlKFI|work | gg |
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| 20:13.19 | Lunessa | STATION |
| 20:13.22 | Cide | rofl Shirik |
| 20:13.24 | Cide | that's so fail |
| 20:13.35 | Cide | Lunessa: |
| 20:13.35 | Cide | <Shirik> chrome looks EXACTLY like IE <Shirik> I take that back <Shirik> I definitely just opened the IE window instead of Chrome |
| 20:14.08 | Lunessa | Cide: FAIL SHIRIK FAIL FAIL FAIL |
| 20:14.14 | Lunessa | is done using caps nopw. |
| 20:14.14 | Adys | ~failrik |
| 20:14.15 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 20:14.54 | Shirik | welp I'm out of ideas |
| 20:15.02 | Shirik | I suck at web programming anyway |
| 20:16.12 | nicoli_s | web programming is fun |
| 20:17.54 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Shirik -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ || 3.3.x ToC: 30300 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || 3.3.5 Patch Notes are up: http://cot.ag/aCj0Wy || Are you going to BlizzCon (Oct 22 & 23)? http://tinyurl.com/22kjfxu || Cataclysm Beta Keys for Authors! http://cot.ag/aG4uy6 or http://cot.ag/bYZvjt || but after beating it 7 hours, no wonder it's hard - Adys |
| 20:17.56 | Shirik | wtf |
| 20:17.58 | Shirik | no I didn't |
| 20:18.50 | nicoli_s | i just saw you |
| 20:18.52 | nicoli_s | mirc doesnt lie |
| 20:19.06 | Lunessa | lies, damned lies, and statistics. |
| 20:22.14 | alestane | I think you'll get a huge kick out of this, Lunessa. Just be careful about who's looking or listening when you play it (NSFW): Here is a rather strange but entertaining piece of geek culturification (Very much NOT safe for work): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1IxOS4VzKM&feature=player_embedded |
| 20:23.28 | alestane | Also, here is a picture of Mr. Bradbury, apparently watching said video: http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/upload/2010/08/raybradbury.jpeg |
| 20:23.45 | Lunessa | alestane: I've seen it. It's HILARIOUS |
| 20:26.51 | Lunessa | alestane: I proffer you this: http://www.asofterworld.com/ |
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| 20:27.25 | alestane | Sec, my computer is in the middle of the original "Come Together," which bears not interrupting. |
| 20:28.37 | NightHawkTheSane | A softer world is a -great- streip |
| 20:28.39 | NightHawkTheSane | strip* |
| 20:29.30 | Adys | ~recursion |
| 20:29.31 | purl | To understand recursion, you must first understand recursion. see ~recursion |
| 20:29.31 | Lunessa | fires up the "White Album" |
| 20:30.22 | alestane | http://www.asofterworld.com/index.php?id=582 , Lunessa. |
| 20:30.47 | Lunessa | alestane: :D |
| 20:31.13 | alestane | Even better: http://www.asofterworld.com/index.php?id=580 |
| 20:32.28 | Fisker | slaps alestane around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:32.37 | Fisker | freeTrouted |
| 20:33.36 | NightHawkTheSane | alestane: be sure to check the hover text. |
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| 20:45.45 | alestane | What's a good way to construct a set that contains a single string, Cide? "set(u'lua')" gives me {u'l', u'u', u'a'}. |
| 20:46.27 | alestane | (Using Python 2.6, no set literals.) |
| 20:48.14 | alestane | Although maybe "set((u'lua',))" did it and I'm just reading it wrong. |
| 20:50.26 | Cide | that's the right way |
| 20:50.33 | Cide | with a tuple |
| 20:50.59 | alestane | I understand why it can't tell, but seems bloody stupid. |
| 20:51.29 | Cide | you generally have to do the same thing for all functions that require iterables |
| 20:51.33 | Cide | or expect |
| 20:51.59 | alestane | If you want to give them just one item, and it happens to be iterable, you need to wrap it in another iterable. |
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| 20:53.17 | Cide | yeah |
| 20:53.24 | Cide | not really sure how set() works on non-iterable values |
| 20:53.26 | laeg | how do i get the item number of an item with different versions, say of the gorilla, of the bear, of the monkey? |
| 20:53.27 | alestane | And that causes it to actually work. |
| 20:53.29 | laeg | http://www.wowhead.com/item=15522 |
| 20:53.39 | alestane | Actually, I think set only takes iterables. |
| 20:53.59 | TC-Work | Fisker |
| 20:54.22 | alestane | >>> set(5) \n Traceback (most recent call last): \n File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module> \n TypeError: 'int' object is not iterable |
| 20:54.31 | Cide | figured as much |
| 20:54.48 | TC-Work | Fisker |
| 20:55.03 | alestane | So you'd actually have to do the same thing if you wanted a set containing only the number 5: set((5,)) |
| 20:56.32 | Cide | yeah |
| 20:56.37 | TC-Work | Fisker |
| 20:56.41 | Cide | consistency is good |
| 20:58.43 | Kraps | alestane: that site is depressing |
| 20:58.56 | alestane | Which, Kraps? |
| 20:58.58 | TC-Work | Fisker |
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| 20:59.21 | Kraps | asofterworld |
| 20:59.32 | alestane | Okay, you can blame Lunessa for that one. |
| 20:59.44 | laeg | how do i get the item number of an item with different versions, say of the gorilla, of the bear, of the monkey? |
| 21:00.08 | alestane | I believe the itemID stays the same across all. |
| 21:00.28 | alestane | But there's another ID # in the link that gives you the suffix. |
| 21:02.15 | laeg | alestane: http://www.wowhead.com/item=15522 |
| 21:02.23 | laeg | sorry, i'm not seeing any id # suffix |
| 21:02.42 | alestane | 15522 is the itemID. |
| 21:03.01 | laeg | yes |
| 21:03.13 | laeg | but say i want the item id for a specific version of it, of the gorilla? |
| 21:03.28 | laeg | wowhead doesn't seem to have an individual entry for each version |
| 21:04.03 | alestane | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api_types: "The linkdata for an item link follows the format itemID:enchant:gem1:gem2:gem3:gem4:suffixID:uniqueID:level:" |
| 21:05.05 | alestane | So in that case, itemID will be 15522 regardless of which one you have, suffixID will indicate which kind it is. As for what values indicate what suffixes, I haven't found that resource yet. |
| 21:05.41 | laeg | alestane: i'm just trying to equip it in a macro like my previous shield |
| 21:05.55 | alestane | You'd want to do that by uniqueID then. |
| 21:06.03 | alestane | Or by name. |
| 21:06.08 | laeg | no room for name |
| 21:06.14 | TC-Work | Fisker |
| 21:06.34 | alestane | Can't you put items in by nine-digit ID? |
| 21:06.58 | laeg | i'm new to this |
| 21:07.03 | Kraps | holy crap http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSx_5lTKRYE&feature=player_embedded#! |
| 21:07.51 | laeg | alestane: i don't understand where to get the rest of digits |
| 21:08.04 | laeg | it has no enchants, no gems, i don't understand suffix id |
| 21:08.54 | alestane | IIRC, in a macro you can supply an item by name, slot, bag position or by itemID. |
| 21:09.38 | Spejnar | sounds about right |
| 21:09.45 | alestane | For itemIDs, I believe the format is either item:15522 (for items of a type), or item:15522:6543 |
| 21:10.03 | alestane | Where the last digits are the uniqueID of the item. |
| 21:10.24 | alestane | Which is the seventh and penultimate value in the linkdata. |
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| 21:11.17 | nicoli_s | if i recall, the suffixes are enchant ids |
| 21:11.19 | laeg | alestane: okay, thanks that makes sense - but where did you get that unique id from? |
| 21:11.20 | alestane | But I don't usually use such macros and can't be quite sure about the formats. |
| 21:11.28 | alestane | The itemLink. |
| 21:11.47 | laeg | alestane: like i said, i am new, "the item link"? |
| 21:12.03 | laeg | i usually just use the number at the end of the wowhead link, which i know is the itemid, different than the unique id |
| 21:14.07 | alestane | If the item is, say, equipped in your off hand, then try typing "/dump GetInventoryItemLink(17)" |
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| 21:16.59 | laeg | alestane: tyvm, noted |
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| 21:18.20 | laeg | alestane: that returns "nil" |
| 21:18.46 | cog|work | sighs at the fail conditioner at work |
| 21:18.54 | cog|work | set to 72, and it's 77 and climbing |
| 21:19.01 | alestane | Do you have something in your off-hand? |
| 21:19.08 | laeg | alestane: please :) |
| 21:19.37 | laeg | alestane: perhaps the outfitter mod is interfering somehow... |
| 21:19.46 | alestane | Shouldn't be. |
| 21:19.59 | laeg | 16 and 17 bot return nil |
| 21:20.01 | TC-Work | Fisker |
| 21:20.06 | Xyphoid | so what causes taldaram to empowered flame orb his tank |
| 21:21.47 | alestane | Maybe I'm misusing it then.. |
| 21:21.55 | alestane | !api GetInventoryItemLink |
| 21:22.13 | alestane | Hmm, lua_bot is AWOL. |
| 21:23.21 | alestane | Right. |
| 21:23.33 | alestane | /dump GetInventoryItemLink('player', 17) |
| 21:25.30 | Pneumatus | [22:25:20] [1]="|cff0070dd|Hitem:37889:0:0:0:0:0:0:1358600448:80|h[Prison Manifest]|h|r" |
| 21:25.33 | Pneumatus | offhand weapon |
| 21:25.44 | laeg | alestane: 15522:0:0:0:0:0:932:0:25 :) |
| 21:25.47 | laeg | ty |
| 21:25.54 | laeg | was hoping it would be a bit shorter! |
| 21:25.55 | alestane | In the case of my baby pally, yields "|cff1eff00|Hitem:3652:0:0:0:0:0:0:893474523:9|h[Hunting Buckler]|h|r" |
| 21:26.03 | laeg | anywa of pairing those 0s? |
| 21:26.15 | alestane | 893474523 is the uniqueID. |
| 21:27.06 | alestane | And oddly enough, you don't seem to have one. |
| 21:27.18 | alestane | Your siffux is 932 though. |
| 21:27.22 | alestane | suffix* |
| 21:27.32 | alestane | I just don't think there's any way to do that. |
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| 21:29.49 | laeg | alestane: okay, thanks for all your help |
| 21:29.52 | laeg | :) |
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| 21:38.47 | Dashkal | maven *shudder* |
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| 21:48.40 | TC-Work | Fisker |
| 21:49.15 | Kraps | today is the first time ive heard of http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/86609/fortune-card/ and i go to mmoc every day :/ |
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| 22:11.29 | Lunessa | http://roflrazzi.com/2010/08/24/celebrity-pictures-yoda-hammer-time/ |
| 22:19.35 | Kraps | http://www.creditscore.net/craigslist-posts/ |
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| 22:43.06 | Kraps | http://howbigreally.com/ |
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| 23:02.54 | Kraps | "The worst thing I have seen Blizzard do was censoring Cogwheel and other modders who voiced opinions about modding policy with which Blizzard did not agree, in April 2009. That act of censorship was sad and unnecessary. Taking down Cogwheel's macro guide was small-minded." |
| 23:03.13 | cog|work | -_- |
| 23:03.17 | Kraps | an anthropologist says so |
| 23:03.33 | cog|work | that's not an accurate description of the situation... |
| 23:04.33 | cog|work | source? |
| 23:04.50 | Kraps | http://www.wow.com/2010/08/24/15-minutes-of-fame-anthropologist-bonnie-nardi-on-wow-culture-a/#continued |
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| 23:06.05 | Kraps | she talks about ebert too |
| 23:07.01 | NightHawkTheSane | erm.. isn't that entirely NOT what happened? |
| 23:07.22 | cog|work | NightHawkTheSane: pretty much... |
| 23:07.24 | Kraps | good piont |
| 23:07.31 | NightHawkTheSane | cog|work: I thought you took down your guide yourself. |
| 23:07.43 | cog|work | yep |
| 23:07.56 | cog|work | the reason they post wiped me was because my "protest" message was in green |
| 23:08.17 | NightHawkTheSane | So, I see wowinsider is living up to their repuation as quality journalists. /sarcasm |
| 23:08.33 | cog|work | no that was the response from the interviewee |
| 23:08.38 | Kraps | ^ |
| 23:09.10 | NightHawkTheSane | they should have fact-checked that though |
| 23:09.26 | NightHawkTheSane | people will read the interview and assume that what the interviwee says is correct. |
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| 23:14.14 | cog|work | ~weather ksts |
| 23:14.26 | cog|work | QQ |
| 23:14.31 | Jamash | I hear the moon is shrinking |
| 23:14.44 | cog|work | i read that yesterday |
| 23:14.46 | NightHawkTheSane | 106? |
| 23:14.47 | Jamash | I blame gnomes |
| 23:14.48 | NightHawkTheSane | :o |
| 23:14.54 | NightHawkTheSane | ~weather ksea |
| 23:15.07 | cog|work | NightHawkTheSane: i no rite? |
| 23:15.14 | cog|work | it's barely been above 80 this whole summer |
| 23:15.16 | NightHawkTheSane | hugs the pacific northwest. |
| 23:15.41 | cog|work | and now summer has less than a month left and BAM |
| 23:15.45 | NightHawkTheSane | heh |
| 23:15.57 | NightHawkTheSane | it's been a pretty cool summer here too, didn't really peak above 70 until late july |
| 23:16.00 | Kraps | NightHawkTheSane: does it get unbearably humid in the city in the summer? |
| 23:16.10 | cog|work | thefuckingweather.com says "It's fucking hot" ... "Looked in the fridge this morning for some eggs. They're already cooked." |
| 23:16.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Kraps: define "unbearably" it's pretty relative. |
| 23:17.52 | Kraps | hmm |
| 23:17.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Unless it peaks above 90 (which it only has a few days so far this year) it doesn't really get hot enough for the humidity to become annoying. but I'm also from western new york, so dealing with temperatures in that range and living next to a gigantic body of water is nothing new. I'm kind of used to it. |
| 23:18.36 | NightHawkTheSane | For someone who's lived a long time in higher/dryer elevations, it could be pretty bad, though. |
| 23:18.49 | Kraps | here in nyc it gets murderous |
| 23:19.27 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah. NYC is pretty different though, a much denser urban environment |
| 23:19.42 | Lunessa | The temps here have been 90f + with heat index hitting 110f for a week plus. It was actually nice to have it drop into the 80s today. |
| 23:21.12 | cog|work | i was in tx in february a couple years ago and it was 80 deg and raining. Worst weather evar imo. |
| 23:21.46 | Lunessa | cog|work: Most of the time it's not so bad, but this summer has been fucking brutal. |
| 23:21.48 | cog|work | i'm suffering enough at 78 with 15% humidity (while the AC makes a futile attempt at bringing the temp down to 72) |
| 23:22.06 | A-KO | it's kinda cool here atm, but still have the a/c on anyway--my PC generates too much heat. |
| 23:22.15 | Kraps | "they were getting me back for getting them back" has a kind of poetry cog|work ;) |
| 23:22.58 | Lunessa | It's been so brutal that the walk from my office building to my car in the parking lot feels like I'm spending time in an oven. |
| 23:24.09 | cog|work | yeah... my turn for that... |
| 23:24.11 | cog|work | bbl |
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| 23:25.03 | NightHawkTheSane | hugs the pacific northwest, again. |
| 23:25.22 | Shirik | is gone from the pacific northwest, again :( |
| 23:25.30 | Cide | hey guys |
| 23:25.34 | cog|away | fuck it's 100 in SF |
| 23:25.37 | cog|away | we're all doomed |
| 23:25.39 | Cide | wtb 2 people playing on EU sc2 |
| 23:25.43 | Cide | to help me test something |
| 23:26.50 | Cide | or 3 people on us |
| 23:30.10 | Xyphoid | so i'm told having two ret pallies is a problem because they interfere with each other - why is that |
| 23:30.41 | Kraps | the qq of those 2 will destroy your raid? |
| 23:31.49 | Xyphoid | like one guy got told to go gear his hunter instead because having two ret pallies makes their abilities clash or something, are people being muppets |
| 23:31.57 | Xyphoid | i am guessing people are being muppets |
| 23:33.10 | Kraps | idk |
| 23:34.19 | Lunessa | Xyphoid: Someone just doesn't want to compete for loot. |
| 23:34.48 | Xyphoid | the muppet hypothesis strengthens |
| 23:35.58 | Kraps | Freshmen at Wabash College in Crawfordsville, Indiana this year will be required to read Gilgamesh, Aristotle's Politics, the poetry of John Donne, Shakespeare's Hamlet, and Valve's Portal. |
| 23:36.21 | Kraps | dammit what with colleges |
| 23:36.46 | A-KO | nothing wrong with that |
| 23:37.01 | A-KO | did you actually read about what they're going to study with it? :P |
| 23:37.01 | Cide | need 1 player on eu to help me out |
| 23:37.02 | Cide | in sc2 |
| 23:37.06 | Cide | for 5 minutes |
| 23:37.20 | NightHawkTheSane | It's actually pretty damn awesome |
| 23:37.31 | NightHawkTheSane | (the college including Portal on the required "reading" list) |
| 23:37.31 | Kraps | a host on casually hardcore said her college has a course on alien architecture |
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| 23:39.32 | A-KO | http://www.brainygamer.com/the_brainy_gamer/2010/08/portal-booklist.html |
| 23:39.40 | A-KO | that's the justification behind Portal being on the college list |
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| 23:44.55 | Kraps | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-10922428 |
| 23:45.31 | Dagmar | Here I was telling Alestane to not get excited last night... and today I read they're removing Volley |
| 23:45.36 | Dagmar | >.< |
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| 23:52.25 | Cidan | Girlfriend's mom's cat died, :( |
| 23:52.27 | Cidan | had to bury it today |
| 23:52.35 | Cidan | sucked, she was so sad. |
| 23:54.04 | Jerub | Cidan: ugh |
| 23:54.09 | Jerub | Cidan: don't do naxx for a few weeks. |
| 23:54.14 | Cidan | nooo |
| 23:54.17 | Cidan | I forgot about that |
| 23:54.18 | Cidan | :( |
| 23:54.25 | Cidan | I always used to kill that cat |
| 23:54.29 | Cidan | now I never will |
| 23:54.53 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5620282/george-lucas-suing-mind+control-tech-company |
| 23:58.20 | Jerub | Cidan: had someone tell the raid not to kill mr bigglesworth because the family cat just died the other day |
| 23:58.29 | Jerub | then the lock ran over and killed it. |
| 23:58.35 | Jerub | i was a little upset at that behaviour |
| 23:58.40 | Thunder_Child | "big tushy ho's, everybody knows, we are the best" |
| 23:59.25 | Kraps | Jerub: its an evil cat owned by an evil lich... |
| 23:59.43 | NightHawkTheSane | Jerub: ... so, someone told someone NOT to do something, and then someone did it? |
| 23:59.47 | NightHawkTheSane | are we seriously surprised? |
| 23:59.47 | A-KO | Jerub: it's a cat in a video game |
| 23:59.54 | Thunder_Child | ^ @ NightHawkTheSane |
| 23:59.58 | A-KO | yeah |
