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| 00:09.17 | industrial | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/aded6245cc85c30c290483e752d243e5.jpg |
| 00:09.21 | industrial | How do I improve my unitframes |
| 00:10.25 | alestane | My first thoughts are to leave another couple pixels free space around them, or surround them with a pixel or two of half-alpha white, or possibly both. |
| 00:11.53 | zenzelezz | "What the hell kind of Starcraft 1 were you playing? This was SC1: "Kill the zerg base! Briefing. Kill the zerg base! Briefing. Kill the building. Green text with black background, yeah! Briefing, kill the TERRAN base."" |
| 00:11.57 | cloudwolf | that or differntiate them with colors |
| 00:12.09 | Corrodias | my friend says, on sc2, "the fuzzy wuzzy little marines and super cuddly zerg are a little dissapointing" |
| 00:13.37 | Fisker | slaps industrial around a bit with a large trout |
| 00:13.38 | Fisker | slaps alestane around a bit with a large trout |
| 00:17.09 | industrial | cloudwolf: they already have class colored names and powertype colored power bars (although I weakened the colors to #336699, #999933, etc) |
| 00:17.40 | eidolarr | zenzelezz: red alert was even worse |
| 00:18.09 | eidolarr | zenzelezz: "complete this interesting mission with a spy, then kill their base" "evacuate this town, then kill their base" "assassinate their general, then kill their base" |
| 00:18.59 | zenzelezz | eidolarr: RA and WC2 both =) |
| 00:19.29 | eidolarr | yeah wc2 was pretty bad about that too heh, sc1 at least had the indoor missions here and there |
| 00:19.30 | Cide | ScytheBlade1, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28010/sbo.jpg |
| 00:19.32 | Cide | best I could do |
| 00:19.42 | Cide | not up yet, it's 5.65mb |
| 00:19.46 | Cide | oh now it is |
| 00:20.07 | ScytheBlade1 | you still did very well |
| 00:20.31 | Cide | is it close to how it looks? I couldn't tell since it was all black |
| 00:20.39 | ScytheBlade1 | very very very close |
| 00:20.43 | Cide | nice |
| 00:20.44 | ScytheBlade1 | you nailed it |
| 00:22.35 | Cide | except there are artifcats on the rest of the picture |
| 00:22.41 | Cide | content-aware fill must have fucked it up |
| 00:25.12 | alestane | Corrodias: ...what? |
| 00:25.43 | alestane | Is he referring to gameplay, graphics, or what in that comment? |
| 00:26.25 | industrial | alestane: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/b25284e117ea04f380a7a0fde4e64bb3.jpg |
| 00:26.50 | alestane | Better. You could even move them a little closer again. |
| 00:27.07 | Cide | ScytheBlade1, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28010/sbo2.jpg up in a sec if you care |
| 00:27.08 | industrial | <3 only having to edit a few vars at the top; https://gist.github.com/1170f19749eea25df04d |
| 00:27.14 | alestane | The white makes them much more easily distinguished. |
| 00:27.19 | industrial | margin -> 1, poof! |
| 00:28.14 | alestane | Leave just a pixel or two or margin around the white, and it'll be right where I would want it. |
| 00:28.53 | alestane | How you want it, of course, is up to you. |
| 00:29.34 | industrial | yeah I love one pixel borders but unfortunately when I edit the margin units won't be 1:1 with pixels and some 1px borders will not be drawn |
| 00:30.07 | Corrodias | alestane: graphics |
| 00:30.10 | alestane | Two is probably fine two. Just the four or five in there now are a little sparse. |
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| 00:30.30 | cloudwolf | world server down |
| 00:30.32 | cloudwolf | ... |
| 00:30.34 | industrial | wonder what that ratio is actually |
| 00:30.44 | industrial | and if you can compensate for it depending on your resolution |
| 00:30.50 | industrial | to amek everything line up 1:1 |
| 00:30.56 | alestane | I suppose they look a bit like that at the default zoom, Corrodias; haven't really tried zooming in. |
| 00:31.01 | industrial | jnwhiteh: ^ |
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| 00:32.36 | Dagmar | Such things are called comb filters, and they'd be overkill. The way things are resized, 1px doesn't disappear when it becomes .9px, it's just the equivalent of 1px at 90% opacity |
| 00:32.49 | cloudwolf | O.o you can watch hulu from anywhere ifyou use firefox (requires a hackey method i guess but not proxies) |
| 00:33.00 | Dagmar | Let other people's work work for you. Rip off the way Blizz does their linedraw |
| 00:33.45 | industrial | Dagmar: Interesting. |
| 00:33.57 | Dagmar | Cloudwolf: User-Agent: Fiefox/Solemnly-swearing-im-in-the-colonies |
| 00:35.09 | Dagmar | Industrial: That haveing been said, counting on 1px borders to remain sharp is going to be a bit of a waste of time |
| 00:35.38 | Dagmar | ...but at least you can make sure your artwork doesn't degrade any worse than Blizz's |
| 00:36.18 | industrial | well it boils down to me sucking at graphics (wouldn't know how to make my own border :P) and me liking 1px borders with css (zomgcrispy) |
| 00:36.40 | industrial | Dagmar: what do you mean with rip off blizz's linedraw? |
| 00:37.03 | Dagmar | Look at the way they draw the borders on their icons and so forth |
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| 00:37.58 | Dagmar | I'm assuming you were talking about drawing some ui decorations |
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| 00:39.24 | Dagmar | Okay, I assumed right |
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| 00:39.41 | Dagmar | That looks good already tho |
| 00:41.44 | Dagmar | The drop-shadowed text looks nicer than most |
| 00:45.12 | Dagmar | Every time I see ThickOuline in use I can't help but think it looks like a cheap whore's mascara |
| 00:47.58 | industrial | haha xD |
| 00:48.23 | industrial | I think I'll leave them like this for a while. I'm too crappy at gfx to attempt creating a border :P |
| 00:52.57 | p3lim | Is ConsoleExec almost the same as SetCVar? |
| 00:53.49 | Cide | Shadowed, ping |
| 00:53.56 | Shadowed | Cide what up |
| 00:54.15 | Cide | can you list all the sc2 realms off the top of your head? |
| 00:54.31 | Shadowed | North America, Europe, Russia, Latin America, Korea, Taiwan |
| 00:54.32 | Cide | don't know the two-char identifiers |
| 00:54.37 | Shadowed | well |
| 00:54.38 | industrial | Dagmar: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/319289cd937b472cd802148979fca490.PNG |
| 00:54.41 | industrial | :P |
| 00:54.41 | Shadowed | it's complicated :> |
| 00:54.45 | Cide | yeah |
| 00:54.46 | Shadowed | basically |
| 00:54.46 | industrial | danger, MS Paint inside. |
| 00:55.24 | Dagmar | Someday they will find a cure for what causes people to think they should use MS Paint |
| 00:55.25 | Shadowed | There are 5 regions Cide, us, eu, sea, tw, kr |
| 00:55.31 | Shadowed | mS Paint is pretty nice |
| 00:55.37 | Shadowed | for really basic stuff |
| 00:55.47 | Dagmar | SOmeone call 911. Shadowed is stroking out |
| 00:55.48 | Shadowed | There are two sub regions Cide, latin america and russia |
| 00:56.05 | industrial | yes, like faking an emboss :D but not for making textures for wow :E |
| 00:56.27 | Shadowed | Latin America is on the us battle.net, but it's using the /2/ locale id |
| 00:56.35 | Shadowed | Russia is on the eu.battle.net but it's using the /2/ locale id too |
| 00:56.37 | Shadowed | Cide ^ |
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| 00:57.36 | Cide | hmm |
| 00:57.37 | Cide | thanks |
| 00:57.39 | Shadowed | np |
| 01:00.17 | ReAn | http://cache-02.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/08/necromerlin.jpg <--- i laughed my ass off |
| 01:01.58 | industrial | if I go from #CCCCCC to #999999, I get a darker color. Can I do the same to a different color and get the same amount of 'darkness' applied? would that be as simple as just subsctracting 3 (in hexadecimal) |
| 01:02.21 | Cide | yes, use HSV |
| 01:02.39 | Cide | and no, it's not as simple as subtracting 0x03 |
| 01:02.50 | Cide | which is 3 in decimal also for that matter |
| 01:03.00 | Dagmar | Yes. |
| 01:03.06 | Cide | you translate it to hsv, and then you subtract from the value, and then translate back to rgb |
| 01:03.12 | Gnarfoz | (and isn't it HSL, not HSV?) |
| 01:03.20 | Dagmar | Differences between a linear scale and a sine notwithstanding |
| 01:03.31 | Cide | there are two models |
| 01:03.40 | Cide | doesn't really matter though |
| 01:03.49 | Dagmar | Excepting also that you subtracted 0x33 |
| 01:03.57 | Cide | use whichever has the simpler algorithm since L and V are pretty much the same thing |
| 01:04.40 | Cide | industrial, see http://130.113.54.154/~monger/hsl-rgb.html |
| 01:04.52 | Dagmar | Oh NOW I know the difference between those two bastards |
| 01:04.53 | Dagmar | okay |
| 01:05.56 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:06.16 | Cide | and inbetween RGB->HSL and HSL->RGB, subtract whatever you desire from L |
| 01:06.20 | Cide | (which is lightness) |
| 01:06.21 | industrial | k |
| 01:06.38 | Dagmar | Gnarfox: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSL_and_HSV both explains it and also explains why most of us never bother to notice there's a difference |
| 01:06.49 | Dagmar | (indirectly on the second splainin) |
| 01:07.54 | Dagmar | industrial : When you're working with an actual grey, substracting the same value from all three buckets is a perfectly fine way of lightening/darkening |
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| 01:08.14 | Dagmar | industrial: When you're working with a color, the maths, they are not so seemple |
| 01:08.56 | Dagmar | In those cases you have to get out the sixteen fingered calculator and drop/raise values by a percentage of their original value |
| 01:09.15 | Dagmar | ...so use Gimp already. :) |
| 01:18.24 | industrial | meh its interesting to know how that works |
| 01:32.26 | ccox | Barbie says: "Color is Hard!" |
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| 01:41.19 | A-KO | http://www.bestweekever.tv/bwe/images/2010/08/MONKEY-SAVES-DOG-IN-CHINA.jpg |
| 01:44.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: what changed between 1 and 2? |
| 01:51.57 | Arrowmaster | considering how many fucking color spaces and methods of encoding colors there are the "Color is Hard!" is fucking true alright |
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| 01:55.20 | Cide | ScytheBlade1, some artifacts in the picture of 1 that content-aware fill introduced |
| 01:55.31 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/26435493403/password-security-information/ |
| 01:55.38 | Iriel | Arrowmaster: Color is SUPER hard |
| 01:56.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: ah okay |
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| 02:06.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: err, haha wtf? |
| 02:07.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: what exactly did you do to the original the first time around? |
| 02:07.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: comparing the two in detail now, and wow |
| 02:07.44 | Cide | yeah I have no idea what happened |
| 02:08.01 | ScytheBlade1 | that is really impressive |
| 02:09.00 | Kraps | http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/53412/gloves-of-unmitigated-badassery/ |
| 02:09.35 | Cide | yeah I was pretty "wtf?" when I saw it while comparing 1 to the original |
| 02:09.50 | ScytheBlade1 | like the lampposts on the far right |
| 02:10.15 | ScytheBlade1 | lol and some guy's head |
| 02:10.21 | ScytheBlade1 | one second it is there |
| 02:10.23 | ScytheBlade1 | the next, gone! |
| 02:10.39 | Cide | I like the black bush becoming green |
| 02:10.44 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah |
| 02:10.56 | ScytheBlade1 | (that's actually a shadow) |
| 02:11.31 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah that's pretty awesome |
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| 02:12.19 | Cide | (obviously :P) |
| 02:13.12 | Kraps | are you guys talking about screenshots? |
| 02:13.24 | ScytheBlade1 | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28010/sbo2.jpg |
| 02:13.26 | ScytheBlade1 | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28010/sbo.jpg |
| 02:13.46 | ScytheBlade1 | (origina: http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/misc/ny.jpg) |
| 02:13.50 | ScytheBlade1 | *original |
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| 02:27.23 | Wobin | http://www.theunion.com/article/20100805/NEWS/100809913/0/FRONTPAGE |
| 02:27.26 | Wobin | ... whut |
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| 02:37.44 | Cide | that's awesome wob |
| 02:37.46 | Cide | Wobin, |
| 02:37.47 | Cide | ... |
| 02:37.49 | Cide | Wobin. |
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| 02:41.05 | Kraps | Wobin: fucking gonlins |
| 02:41.18 | Kraps | goblins* |
| 02:52.42 | airtonix | http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/coapp-an-open-source-package-management-system-for-windows/5762 |
| 02:52.48 | airtonix | thoughts ? |
| 02:52.54 | Kraps | http://www.amazon.co.uk/Science-Avatar-Stephen-Baxter/dp/0297863436/ |
| 02:52.59 | airtonix | ooo |
| 02:53.22 | airtonix | um actually |
| 02:53.23 | kd3 | gack. a link to tvtropes from wikipedia |
| 02:53.24 | airtonix | what |
| 02:53.30 | kd3 | looks at the 30-odd tabs he has open and sighs |
| 02:53.38 | Kraps | oh btw i'm in the middle of Second Foundation |
| 02:54.04 | Kraps | asimov writes well |
| 02:54.13 | airtonix | you read any enders game? |
| 02:54.27 | Kraps | no |
| 02:54.32 | airtonix | me either |
| 02:54.36 | kd3 | good book |
| 02:54.43 | airtonix | i've only listened to the old man drill me about it |
| 02:54.45 | kd3 | ender's game, then the bean series are <3 |
| 02:54.51 | airtonix | i've read the graphic novel though |
| 02:54.56 | kd3 | the later ender books when he's older... not so much |
| 02:55.05 | airtonix | yeah think the graphic was about the bean series |
| 02:55.12 | airtonix | when he is recruited |
| 02:55.39 | Kraps | i'm just starting on my scifi/fantasy journey, now that i have a consistent source of reading material |
| 02:55.55 | kd3 | looks at his bookshelves |
| 02:56.04 | airtonix | i used to really enjoy fantasy |
| 02:56.04 | kd3 | thinks of his mother's basement full of books |
| 02:56.08 | airtonix | but i can't anymoe |
| 02:56.25 | Kraps | why? |
| 02:56.32 | airtonix | if its not depressingly futuristic im not interested |
| 02:56.38 | Kraps | lol? |
| 02:56.42 | airtonix | i know |
| 02:57.27 | airtonix | but oddly |
| 02:57.36 | airtonix | you know that saying |
| 02:57.50 | airtonix | technology that is blah blah is just magic ? |
| 02:57.58 | airtonix | forgot how it goes |
| 02:58.29 | kd3 | incredibly advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic |
| 02:58.33 | kd3 | something like that |
| 02:58.54 | Kraps | http://www.booksfree.com/ |
| 02:59.05 | Kraps | and no, they are not free |
| 03:00.03 | Kraps | ah Orson Scott Card, names familiar |
| 03:00.27 | Ressy | Enders game |
| 03:00.54 | Kraps | looking at it now |
| 03:01.06 | airtonix | yeah if you like graphic novels |
| 03:01.15 | Ressy | It started with 1 really good book, then expanded to a series with the other characters. |
| 03:08.48 | Kraps | if you want mind-blowingly odd stories try http://www.amazon.com/Flights-Extreme-Visions-Fantasy-Vol/dp/0451460995 |
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| 03:11.30 | Kraps | seriously, one story is about an elf society that gets decimated because one of them brought back aids from "our" world |
| 03:13.30 | Cide | rofl |
| 03:13.39 | Cide | elves need protection too |
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| 03:15.11 | Kraps | the stories made me go "WTF!!!!!!!!!" and i enjoyed the heck out of them |
| 03:24.29 | Dashkal | Can someone suggest a good windows pdf reader that isn't adobe your-computer-is-owned crap? |
| 03:25.06 | Arrowmaster | fox something |
| 03:25.27 | Ressy | foxit reader? |
| 03:25.31 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 03:25.32 | Dashkal | foxit. that's the one. danke |
| 03:28.29 | Kraps | http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/kotaku/2010/08/longpiece.jpg |
| 03:28.36 | Wobin | I always confuse it with foxlit |
| 03:29.24 | Wobin | actually I prefer Alvin the Maker series from OSC |
| 03:30.04 | Wobin | and L E Modesitt Jr, as a general Scifi/Fantasy author |
| 03:31.22 | Kraps | when you guys start a series do you not read anything else until you finish it or no? |
| 03:31.59 | Wobin | Kraps: eh that depends on how cutting edge you are with your reading |
| 03:32.24 | Kraps | meaning how quickly you can get the next book? |
| 03:32.24 | Wobin | but if the entire series is available, it makes more sense imo to read the entire thing |
| 03:32.32 | Wobin | yeah, and if it's been written |
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| 03:32.41 | Cide | would have been funnier if it was a woman seeking a man, Kraps |
| 03:32.59 | Wobin | Cide: "I've had too many of those 'z' shaped pieces =(" |
| 03:33.09 | Cide | indeed |
| 03:33.09 | Amarande | zed shaped pieces of what? |
| 03:33.15 | Wobin | "And that one guy with the T piece freaked me out =(" |
| 03:33.18 | Cide | whistles |
| 03:33.23 | Amarande | oh, tetris |
| 03:33.32 | Cide | uh-huh |
| 03:33.34 | Amarande | dammit. anyone remember what the hit cap is for blood dk tank? |
| 03:33.41 | Cide | over 9000% |
| 03:33.44 | Cide | true story |
| 03:33.58 | Amarande | EJ's DK threads are sadly very lacking in tanking info :( |
| 03:34.09 | Amarande | I've got spec, glyphs and rotations, but not things like hit cap and enchant/gem optimalities |
| 03:34.16 | Amarande | (I'm assuming for gems, stamina, stamina and more stamina?) |
| 03:34.36 | Cide | Shirik, when's sc2? |
| 03:35.09 | Wobin | Amarande: same as everyone else? 8% |
| 03:35.39 | Wobin | Amarande: since I don't think you'll be DW tanking as blood |
| 03:35.48 | Cide | that's over 9000 * 7/9*10^-3 % |
| 03:35.59 | Wobin | are there any hit talents in blood? It's been so long =( |
| 03:39.51 | Kraps | so vampire books are popular |
| 03:39.57 | Kraps | *sigh* |
| 03:40.48 | Cide | TWILIGHT!!!!! |
| 03:41.19 | Kraps | well yeah its twilights fault |
| 03:44.33 | Wobin | try to ignore the vampire books |
| 03:45.00 | Cide | hmm |
| 03:45.47 | Cide | can c++ convert a two-byte const char* to an unsigned short in a simple way? |
| 03:46.21 | Cide | I'm aware of the "simple" byte-messing way but that's not very readable |
| 03:46.43 | Dagmar | What about the non-gay vampires? Anne Rice is sill good. |
| 03:46.57 | Dagmar | s/sill/still/ |
| 03:47.44 | Wobin | wait |
| 03:47.45 | Kraps | non-gay? |
| 03:47.47 | Wobin | Anne Rice? |
| 03:47.49 | Wobin | non-gay? |
| 03:48.38 | Kraps | are you using gay as "homosexual" or "bad"? |
| 03:49.09 | Wobin | non-stupid vampires maybe |
| 03:51.41 | Kraps | all of twilights vampires are hetero |
| 03:52.31 | Wobin | mostly because they don't have the imagination to be anything but flat =P |
| 03:52.32 | Amarande | Wobin: nope doesn't look like there are any hit talents in blood |
| 03:52.37 | Amarande | 8% is ... 263? |
| 03:53.02 | Wobin | Amarande: can't recall off the top of my head, but search for hit cap 8% rating and google should know |
| 03:54.19 | Wobin | Kraps: welcome to the Meyer world of cipher characters =P |
| 03:54.19 | Kraps | Furies of Calderon (Codex Alera) "Members who rented this title also enjoyed:" The Time Traveler's Wife |
| 03:54.29 | Wobin | I didn't mind Codex Alera |
| 03:54.58 | Wobin | quite different from Dresden Chronicles |
| 03:55.05 | Wobin | and an interesting magic system |
| 03:55.39 | Wobin | Much like how Brandon Sanderson's series has an interesting one |
| 03:55.59 | Amarande | well Sanderson is just plain made of win |
| 03:56.07 | Amarande | he even plays Are You a Darkfriend? with us at Dragon Con these days |
| 03:57.04 | Wobin | Amarande: is that like Mafia? |
| 03:58.28 | Amarande | Yeah |
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| 04:02.41 | A-KO | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tklx3j7kgJY |
| 04:02.53 | Wobin | hehe I like that vid |
| 04:03.18 | Kraps | is this the first in the mistborn set? http://www.booksfree.com/cgi-bin/search_details.cgi?isbn=9780765360960 |
| 04:03.44 | Wobin | yes |
| 04:03.53 | p3lim | Hm.. can I use one of the original headers for my bindings? For example, the 'MOVEMENT' header |
| 04:04.30 | Wobin | Kraps: Mistborn -> Well of Ascension -> Hero of Ages |
| 04:04.40 | Kraps | yeah |
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| 04:11.03 | Kraps | revelation space is a good series? i'm starting it right after second foundation |
| 04:12.57 | Zyn | http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/sha/1882466247.html |
| 04:13.02 | Zyn | those criterias |
| 04:14.51 | Cide | are good |
| 04:15.47 | Kraps | that has to be a joke |
| 04:18.22 | Wobin | I dunno |
| 04:19.41 | Kraps | so is gonna check what league you're in before he moves in? |
| 04:25.39 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AejVHe8oBdU&feature=related |
| 04:25.58 | Wobin | I <3 Paul and Esna |
| 04:27.28 | Xinhuan | anyone has the cataclysm launcher "stuck" at 99% for hours but its still downloading at 500 kb/sec for the last 10 hours? |
| 04:27.48 | Xinhuan | it says 4.9 gb remaining forever |
| 04:29.35 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKsVSBhSwJg&playnext=1&videos=1cOY7bdlebI |
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| 04:36.27 | Ressy | I see 4.1gb & 100% |
| 04:37.24 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: the launchers dl rate won't go to 0 if it stops downloading for whatever reason (bug in the downloader) at least thats what happened to me restarting the launcher fixe it |
| 04:37.25 | Ressy | The issue with being at 100% downloaded, and still streaming content (which is affecting everyone right now) will be looked into tomorrow, and we should have a response by monday afternoon from the devs. |
| 04:37.46 | Xinhuan | restarting doesn't fix it |
| 04:37.56 | Xinhuan | it just shows a red bar at 99% and continues to download at 500 kb/sec for hours lol |
| 04:38.02 | Yssaril | still goes to 500? |
| 04:38.07 | Ressy | Try deleting the WTF folder. |
| 04:38.10 | Yssaril | ouch |
| 04:38.13 | Xinhuan | i don't have a WTF folder |
| 04:38.18 | Xinhuan | i haven't logged in with it yet |
| 04:38.27 | Ressy | Then log in. |
| 04:38.28 | Yssaril | you should be able to log in though |
| 04:38.35 | Xinhuan | yep just logged in |
| 04:38.40 | Xinhuan | seems fine |
| 04:38.43 | Xinhuan | now i'm logging out! |
| 04:38.46 | Ressy | you should still have a wtf folder, because thats where the launcher's file is. |
| 04:38.54 | Xinhuan | now starting launcher |
| 04:38.55 | Ressy | theres a launcher.wtf file now. |
| 04:38.57 | Xinhuan | again |
| 04:39.12 | Xinhuan | its still furiously downloading |
| 04:39.14 | Yssaril | bar collor is kinda bugged if you restart the laucher without having downloaded everything yet |
| 04:39.14 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 04:39.46 | Xinhuan | so there is a launcher.wtf |
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| 04:39.52 | Xinhuan | and it still downloads anyway |
| 04:42.28 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: at least you got a way faster download than i ever did with that launcher :P |
| 04:43.26 | Xinhuan | that's not my fastest either |
| 04:43.33 | Xinhuan | i've seen it go 800 kb/sec |
| 04:43.39 | Ressy | not bad. |
| 04:43.58 | Ressy | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9038867/fastdownload.jpg |
| 04:44.19 | Cide | I've seen 14mb/s |
| 04:44.31 | Ressy | now thats nuts |
| 04:44.38 | Xinhuan | in any case, i'm trying to figure out why its been furiously downloading for getting close to 11 hours at 99% |
| 04:44.46 | Cide | and a friend ~28 |
| 04:45.01 | Cide | but that's on a gbit connection naturally |
| 04:45.15 | Yssaril | Xinhuan: you checking with a separate bandwidth monitor that its actually downloading and not just showing you numbers? |
| 04:45.37 | Xinhuan | oh its definitely downloading |
| 04:46.11 | Xinhuan | its also uploading at 10 kb/sec |
| 04:59.44 | Xinhuan | so how big is your wow cata folder |
| 04:59.54 | Xinhuan | mine says 14.8 gb |
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| 05:00.34 | Xinhuan | which is smaller than my live folder of almost 17 gb |
| 05:00.36 | Yssaril | 14.9 GB ore 16,024,252,311 bytes |
| 05:00.54 | Xinhuan | interesting... |
| 05:01.36 | Yssaril | hopefully with the new laucher they have a way of getting rid of duplicate data instead of just having a new mpq file overwrite the old stuff |
| 05:04.16 | Amarande | gah is the dodgers game EVER going to end |
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| 05:36.08 | DesertDwarf | I need help finding functions I can hook. I'm looking for GameToolTip methods. In my "Blizzard Interface Data (enUS)" directory, I have a GameTooltip.(lua|xml) under the FrameXML, but that list is not *the* list (comparing it to WoWWiki). Any place else I can look? |
| 05:38.28 | nevcairiel | the methods of frames are in C, you wont find it in the source. Look the methods up on wowwiki or wowprogramming |
| 05:39.14 | Arrowmaster | !api GameTooltip |
| 05:39.14 | lua_bot | Found 69 possible matches for 'GameTooltip'. Please be more specific |
| 05:39.32 | Arrowmaster | !api ^GameTooltip$ |
| 05:39.33 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for '^GameTooltip$'. |
| 05:40.06 | Arrowmaster | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/GameTooltip |
| 05:40.08 | Arrowmaster | theres everything |
| 05:43.17 | Arrowmaster | this movie is weird |
| 05:43.31 | Arrowmaster | im still waiting for some kinda turning point in it |
| 05:44.15 | DesertDwarf | Arrowmaster, Thanks. That list is much more complete than WoWWiki. |
| 05:44.44 | Kraps | in case you were wondering http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obCYntpTV2g |
| 05:46.07 | Arrowmaster | that site gets updated after every patch with any new additions to the api or removals, they wont be documented but they will at least be listed unlike wowwiki |
| 05:49.45 | Arrowmaster | Kraps: who is this kid? |
| 05:49.58 | Kraps | i like turtles |
| 05:49.59 | Arrowmaster | must not be that big of a meme since ive never fucking seen it before |
| 05:50.03 | DesertDwarf | Arrowmaster: Thanks, that's good to know. I wish the current book was in ebook form. :-( |
| 05:50.06 | Kraps | pfft |
| 05:58.30 | Arrowmaster | DesertDwarf: so does jnwhiteh i think |
| 05:59.42 | DesertDwarf | Yeah, he told me a couple of weeks ago it was up to the publisher. On Amazon, they have a link to let the publisher know another customer wished for an ebook edition, so I used that. Hopefully more will do the same (even if they don't actually want to buy the ebook edition) so the publisher will put one out. |
| 06:00.30 | Adys | .. huh |
| 06:01.10 | Adys | I got an enUS client |
| 06:01.17 | Adys | set to connect to enUS servers |
| 06:01.29 | Adys | And WoW-3.3.3.11723-to-3.3.5.12213-enUS-patch tells me |
| 06:01.34 | Adys | Patch can't be applied because it is missing data for: "enGB". If this problem persists, you may be able to solve it by uninstalling and then reinstalling the game. If you are unable to correct this problem, please contact Blizzard Technical Support. (SetLanguage) |
| 06:02.04 | Arrowmaster | check your data dir |
| 06:02.11 | Arrowmaster | does it have an enGB dir in it? |
| 06:02.55 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: That you don't recognize it means either you're blessedly untouched by the goings-on in 4chan, or you've just forgotten because it's a few years old |
| 06:03.59 | Adys | Arrowmaster: nop |
| 06:04.06 | Arrowmaster | Adys: vista/7? |
| 06:04.08 | Adys | enUS and esMX |
| 06:04.14 | Adys | hmm, it's set to 7 yeah |
| 06:04.17 | Adys | ill set it to xp |
| 06:04.24 | Arrowmaster | oh wine |
| 06:04.38 | Arrowmaster | i ment because of the vista/7 stuff with virtualfolders |
| 06:04.49 | Arrowmaster | maybe there was an enGB dir hidding from you somewhere |
| 06:05.13 | DesertDwarf | Well, yay!, I got this old addon working again (Delay Tip). I took it over from the original author. Problem is, when I hover over an item in my bags, the tooltip flickers. (But not over anything else, as far as I can see...just items in the bags.) |
| 06:05.35 | Dagmar | It should only pull that switcheroo under circumstances other than patching tho |
| 06:07.02 | Adys | Arrowmaster: oh i know |
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| 06:07.08 | Adys | Arrowmaster: it's my symlink setup |
| 06:07.16 | Adys | it's looking in eu/Data |
| 06:08.08 | Arrowmaster | DesertDwarf: flickers? |
| 06:08.17 | Arrowmaster | what does the addon do? |
| 06:08.28 | DesertDwarf | Delay's showing of tooltips. |
| 06:08.33 | DesertDwarf | *Delays |
| 06:08.49 | Arrowmaster | how exactly does it do that? |
| 06:08.53 | DesertDwarf | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/139341 |
| 06:09.44 | DesertDwarf | Hooks the methods that call the tooltips and then delays showing them when the method is called by the widget system (or whatever drives those methods internally in the client). |
| 06:10.15 | Dagmar | 113 & 114. :( |
| 06:10.36 | DesertDwarf | But the only items that seem to flicker are the bag items. Other items (spells, paperdoll items, etc.) do *not* flicker. |
| 06:10.58 | DesertDwarf | And, remember, I inherited this. The author abandoned this long ago and just recently turned it over to me. |
| 06:11.03 | Arrowmaster | addon sounds inherently broken due to how tooltips now work |
| 06:11.09 | Dagmar | I'd say check to be sure nothing _else_ hooked them in the meantime |
| 06:11.20 | Dagmar | Those two comments confuse me horribly |
| 06:11.24 | DesertDwarf | No other addons loaded (except Swatter). |
| 06:11.34 | Dagmar | Why would you want to reduce the delay to show again? |
| 06:11.36 | DesertDwarf | Dagmar, I agree. I was like "Huh?" when I read those two liens. |
| 06:11.36 | Arrowmaster | tooltips are refreshed using an onupdate in certain circumstances, one of which being inventory tooltips |
| 06:12.26 | Dagmar | That would break this yep |
| 06:12.34 | DesertDwarf | Dagmar, I dunno. Somebody on wow-i asked for it, found it, got a PM from the author saying he'd turn it over to someone else, and I volunteered. |
| 06:12.47 | Arrowmaster | imho give up, its not worth it |
| 06:12.56 | Amarande | Okay, why does an i219 necklace have the same vendor value as i232 rings? |
| 06:13.05 | DesertDwarf | Arrowmater, thanks. |
| 06:13.28 | Arrowmaster | especially when the standard behavior of most tooltip addons is remove all the fading the toolips normally do, most people just want them to show and hide asap |
| 06:13.28 | Dagmar | Amarande: I was under the impression that they were generally differently priced slots |
| 06:13.55 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Not me. I could see utility in having them say, take longer to show up if you're in combat |
| 06:14.17 | DesertDwarf | Arrowmaster, some tooltips are overly large and covering up other parts of the UI. (They try to be mini-help files.) |
| 06:14.25 | Dagmar | I had to frantically flip them back in while in combat last time I went after Maly |
| 06:14.50 | Arrowmaster | those sound like addon tooltips and not standard ones being hooked by this addon |
| 06:15.53 | DesertDwarf | Arrowmaster, yes they do. Still, utility is in the eye of the beholder. It's a "stretch my wings" project for me. I wish to learn, not give up. |
| 06:16.12 | Arrowmaster | then disable for inventory tooltips |
| 06:16.41 | Arrowmaster | and whenever else the flag in the tooltip is set indicating its going to be refreshed on every onupdate |
| 06:19.45 | DesertDwarf | Dagmar, I figured out 113 and 114. It's about the _transition variable. It refers to "have we shown yet" situation. If we have, we set it to 1 to indicate we've started showing and then change it to 2 to indicate we don't want any other delays in showing the tooltip. For example, if I go from button 1 to button 2 on an actionbar (with no chance for the tooltip frame to disappear), the tooltip |
| 06:19.45 | DesertDwarf | stays on because of the 1 and 2 tracking of _transition. |
| 06:20.03 | DesertDwarf | *_transitioning |
| 06:20.29 | Dagmar | DesertDwarf: That seems an especialyl looney way to go about it |
| 06:20.48 | DesertDwarf | Wasn't my code. :-) |
| 06:20.51 | Arrowmaster | yes a lot of this code seems crazy |
| 06:21.38 | Arrowmaster | would make much more sense to just alpha it out instead of hiding |
| 06:22.12 | Arrowmaster | wouldnt have to mess with this crazy ass stuff of recalling the original function with all its original arguments |
| 06:24.02 | DesertDwarf | Does Lua treat underscored variable names differently than normal variable names? (_variable versus variable) |
| 06:24.12 | nevcairiel | no |
| 06:25.28 | Arrowmaster | at the very least make sure you stick a god damn 'local show' at the top of that file |
| 06:25.56 | DesertDwarf | Where is it defined in global scope? |
| 06:26.18 | Arrowmaster | near the bottom of the file |
| 06:26.24 | Arrowmaster | but its used at the top |
| 06:27.32 | DesertDwarf | Can't I just do local function show(func, ...) down where the function is defined? |
| 06:27.39 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 06:28.03 | DesertDwarf | Teach me. I don't know why I can't. |
| 06:28.53 | Arrowmaster | because its used at the top of the file |
| 06:29.07 | DesertDwarf | So, just "local show" ... no "function" in the statement? |
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| 06:50.50 | Torhal | DesertDwarf: You're making a declaration of the variable by doing "local show" |
| 06:50.55 | Torhal | Later, you're defining it. |
| 06:51.28 | DesertDwarf | To restrict the addon's Show() to be local scope, I need to declare it how? |
| 06:52.06 | Torhal | Just leave the global declaration as-is: You're declaring it to be local at the top (where everything else can see it) and defining it later in the file. |
| 06:52.18 | Torhal | Using local again would create a different variable at that point in the file. |
| 06:52.46 | DesertDwarf | OK, so "local Show" (only at the top) should be correct. Thanks! :-) |
| 06:52.54 | Torhal | Yup. |
| 06:53.19 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 06:53.22 | Arrowmaster | not Show |
| 06:53.27 | Torhal | Just comment it with "Defined below" or somesuch so you don't go back months later and "WTF?" |
| 06:53.27 | Arrowmaster | 'local show' |
| 06:53.46 | Torhal | Ah, yah - I missed the case change. |
| 06:54.10 | DesertDwarf | Arrowmaster, hmm...the function is named "Show" in the _needHooks table. |
| 06:54.25 | Arrowmaster | no its not |
| 06:54.33 | Arrowmaster | not in the code you put on pastey.net |
| 06:54.37 | Torhal | And unless there is a real reason to separate the declaration from the definition, just move it above everything that uses it. |
| 06:54.51 | DesertDwarf | Line 102? |
| 06:55.08 | Arrowmaster | no that has nothing to do with it |
| 06:55.09 | DesertDwarf | Torhal: This is the mess I inherited: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/139341 |
| 06:55.50 | Torhal | Ugh. |
| 06:56.26 | DesertDwarf | Arrowmaster, oh yeah. I think I'm getting too tired for this! Hehe. I forgot it was the function show() line. Thanks! |
| 06:57.19 | DesertDwarf | Torhal, Arrowmaster has convinced me it would be better to rewrite the addon to use alpha to delay the showing of the tooltip instead of the mess I inherited. |
| 06:58.10 | Torhal | Rather than replacing the tooltip frame's Hide(), yes. |
| 06:59.05 | DesertDwarf | Yuppers. I volunteered to take it over while on vacation without having read the code. When I got back home and read it, I ... well, I groaned out loud. (GOL?) |
| 06:59.31 | Torhal | There's not much to it, but what is there needs some serious re-thinking. |
| 06:59.45 | DesertDwarf | I agree. |
| 07:00.06 | Torhal | The gratuitous underscore-prefixing makes no sense. |
| 07:01.21 | DesertDwarf | Yeah, it even made me ask here about a half-hour ago if there was special significance to the underscore. I was told "No". |
| 07:01.54 | nevcairiel | well there is not |
| 07:01.57 | nevcairiel | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:02.11 | nevcairiel | some people just like pressing the key, i suppose |
| 07:02.12 | DesertDwarf | Hehe. Yup! I know now. :-) |
| 07:02.56 | DesertDwarf | I guess _ meant "Mine!"...as in not a system variable. It's strange because I've seen things like _system be used as system-provided variables, not the other way around. |
| 07:07.10 | DesertDwarf | Torhal, if I have no libraries yet, at all, what do I put in my .pkgmeta? |
| 07:11.08 | Torhal | Maybe just package-as |
| 07:11.38 | DesertDwarf | Would it be better to just not include a .pkgmeta until I need it for library control? |
| 07:14.07 | Arrowmaster | this movie is getting good |
| 07:14.16 | Torhal | DesertDwarf: Up to you. |
| 07:16.59 | DesertDwarf | OK, committed to CF. |
| 07:18.08 | DesertDwarf | Just waiting for approval and then I can take the resulting .zip and upload it to wow-i. |
| 07:19.54 | Arrowmaster | there is no approval when you use repos on cf |
| 07:20.26 | DesertDwarf | Well, the addon has to be approved, cuz it says approval is pending. But, you're right, I already have the zip. |
| 07:24.35 | DesertDwarf | Grr...I have to pick a better picture. The old one's a bit dorky and not helpful. http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7082-DelayTip.html |
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| 07:25.37 | Arrowmaster | this movie has gone from a very slow beginning to a fucking awesome ending |
| 07:26.42 | DesertDwarf | Arrowmaster, Dagmar, nevcairiel, and Torhal: I learned and I got an ancient addon working thanks to all of you. Uploaded to both cf and wow-i. Thanks for your help. |
| 07:26.51 | Adys | Maldivia: ping |
| 07:27.55 | Arrowmaster | holy shit this movie just keeps getting better and better near the end |
| 07:28.43 | DesertDwarf | Arrowmaster: What movie? |
| 07:28.49 | Arrowmaster | splice |
| 07:30.13 | Amarande | why because you're glad it's almost over? |
| 07:30.13 | DesertDwarf | I'll queue it in Netflix. Thanks! |
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| 07:30.45 | Arrowmaster | doubt netflix has it |
| 07:30.51 | DesertDwarf | They do. |
| 07:31.05 | DesertDwarf | Already queued for delivery. |
| 07:32.08 | Arrowmaster | imdb says Release Date 4 June 2010 (USA) and netflix already has it? |
| 07:32.08 | Amarande | is there really anything netflix DOESN'T have? |
| 07:32.13 | Amarande | well, maybe CP, they probably don't have CP lol |
| 07:32.18 | Arrowmaster | why the fuck am i watching an R5 then? |
| 07:35.01 | DesertDwarf | Oh, sorry. It's saved to the future queue area with an unknown delivery date. |
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| 07:36.34 | Arrowmaster | ha knew it |
| 07:36.40 | Arrowmaster | theres no way they would have it yet |
| 07:36.49 | Arrowmaster | because if they did then i wouldnt be watching an R5 |
| 07:38.54 | DesertDwarf | OK, off to bed. |
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| 07:53.10 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/8552.jpg |
| 07:54.24 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/5fve8.jpg hehe, periodic table |
| 07:57.28 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/1254341207360.jpg |
| 07:58.08 | nevcairiel | that perdiodic table is kinda awesome |
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| 08:08.54 | mikma | http://www.lunascape.tv/ |
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| 08:31.57 | olafski | I like the ring ring too |
| 08:35.07 | olafski | lunascape sounds impressive.. odd that I've never heard of it until today |
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| 08:49.49 | Shirik | is still trying to figure out why mikma enjoys the "bshit" more than the approved images |
| 08:50.11 | mikma | they are much better in there! |
| 08:53.36 | Shirik | ring ring ring ring ring ring ring |
| 08:53.58 | Shirik | I played my first WoW TCG game today |
| 08:54.11 | Shirik | my friend gave me one of his decks to play with and taught me the game |
| 08:54.20 | Shirik | it is sufficiently like magic that I destroyed him |
| 09:00.05 | Adys | http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2010/08/colliding-galaxies-photos-amaze/ |
| 09:01.10 | zenzelezz | this is why galaxies should never use their cell phones while driving around the universe |
| 09:03.47 | zenzelezz | http://roflrazzi.com/2010/08/06/celebrity-pictures-star-trek-twilight/ |
| 09:16.18 | zenzelezz | for all of you pun lovers: http://roflrazzi.com/2010/08/06/incept-pun/ |
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| 09:21.11 | jnwhiteh | hihi everyone! |
| 09:21.20 | jnwhiteh | long time no see! |
| 09:21.56 | haste | haroo |
| 09:22.43 | mikma | whu is dat |
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| 09:35.40 | Adys | jnwhiteh: who are you |
| 09:35.44 | Adys | why are you in this channel |
| 09:35.51 | Adys | WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM US |
| 09:35.54 | Adys | we have no money |
| 09:36.02 | Adys | why do you have a gun |
| 09:36.08 | Adys | will you stop bothering us |
| 09:36.14 | Adys | when can we be freed |
| 09:36.34 | Adys | willy is a happy flappy deer. |
| 09:36.40 | Adys | I'm all out. Hi jnwhiteh! |
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| 09:39.56 | Tewan | Quick question, wouldn't SetTexCoord(0, 0.5, 0.5, 1); show the bottom left quarter of the image? http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Texture_SetTexCoord says otherwise, but states that the arguments go (left,right,top,bottom) |
| 09:42.28 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 09:42.45 | cbreak | Tewan: that should not show anything |
| 09:43.16 | cbreak | your top is smaller than the bottom |
| 09:43.20 | cbreak | hmm. maybe it gets mirrored |
| 09:43.47 | cbreak | but it should show the top left quarter |
| 09:45.03 | cbreak | well, depends on the image flipping I guess |
| 09:47.59 | Tewan | eh |
| 09:49.04 | cbreak | just try it out :) |
| 09:49.27 | Tewan | I'm just trying to get the correct placement of values into tex:SetTexCoord(l,r,t,b)... going off of http://tewan.info/example.png , shouldn't it be l = .768 r = .82 t = .247 b = .778? |
| 09:49.35 | Tewan | I suppose that's what I'll do |
| 09:49.42 | Tewan | Gotta find a quest that I can test it on though :/ |
| 09:49.52 | Tewan | Trying to edit VendorBait to be more apparent, lol |
| 09:50.26 | cbreak | OpenGL 0,0 is the bottom left of an image |
| 09:50.36 | cbreak | so 0% is at the bottom |
| 09:50.39 | Tewan | ah |
| 09:50.40 | Tewan | shit |
| 09:50.47 | cbreak | maybe it's the same in WoW |
| 09:50.52 | cbreak | don't remember |
| 09:51.11 | Tewan | I'll give this a shot real quick |
| 09:52.14 | Tewan | Real quick meaning I have to find a quest that gives an item as a reward and do it :P |
| 09:52.53 | Arrowmaster | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/comiccon.jpg |
| 09:54.54 | Tewan | Eww... that didn't do what I thought it would. |
| 09:59.41 | Tewan | bleh, oh well. I'm too much of a Lua noob to troubleshoot this >_> |
| 09:59.47 | Tewan | Thanks anyways :D |
| 10:05.30 | Fisker | p9s Shirik |
| 10:05.35 | Fisker | p9s! |
| 10:05.49 | mikma | pnines |
| 10:08.39 | Fisker | i will harm you for free |
| 10:13.27 | Tewan | I'm willing to take that deal |
| 10:13.50 | Tewan | I haven't have a free whoo--waaaaait a minute |
| 10:14.22 | Tewan | scurries off again to try to remember what he was doing... |
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| 10:38.16 | Fisker | raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaage |
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| 11:39.10 | Adys | Naps are way underrated |
| 11:40.29 | wereHamster | polyphasing ftw! |
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| 11:56.54 | Adys | anyone uses the das keyboard? |
| 11:57.08 | Adys | I cant find a place to try it so im trying to figure out whether to get the silent or nonsilent mode |
| 11:57.12 | Adys | model* |
| 12:05.25 | cbreak | why would you want to get a noisy one? |
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| 12:24.35 | sylvanaar_ipad | Morning |
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| 12:27.49 | Arrowmaster | my question would be is the silent one still mechanical? |
| 12:28.20 | Arrowmaster | Adys: the nonsilent is supposed to be like a model-M which are fucking loud |
| 12:29.08 | Arrowmaster | i thought about getting one of the silent ones for my mom to use at work |
| 12:29.20 | Adys | well i heard it on youtube, it's still loud |
| 12:29.22 | Adys | but i dont mind |
| 12:29.28 | Adys | id just like to try the feel of the keys =/ |
| 12:29.52 | Arrowmaster | she destroys the number pads on cheap keyboards |
| 12:32.11 | haste | Adys: I have the "old" noisy one |
| 12:32.54 | Adys | how is it? |
| 12:32.57 | Adys | on the long run |
| 12:33.45 | haste | better than any other keyboard I've had at least |
| 12:33.57 | Adys | good enough for me |
| 12:34.00 | Adys | how long you had it? |
| 12:34.02 | haste | it's pretty much as noisy as the old IBM keyboards |
| 12:34.09 | haste | let me check |
| 12:34.37 | haste | closing in to two years |
| 12:34.57 | Arrowmaster | if youve never had a model-M you probably want to get the silent one if its still fully mechanical keyswitches |
| 12:35.08 | Arrowmaster | i just dont understand how they can have silent mechanical keyswitches |
| 12:35.31 | Adys | its not silent |
| 12:35.33 | Adys | its less noisy |
| 12:36.13 | Adys | i can definitely attest to that |
| 12:36.13 | haste | Adys: a friend of mine tried it here, and ordered his own minutes later :P |
| 12:36.41 | haste | I think they had the silent model when he ordered actually |
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| 12:47.35 | cbreak | I use apple extended keyboards. Which are hardly the pinacle of mechanical sturdyness, but I like the laptop like feel |
| 12:47.47 | cbreak | and they are fairly quiet |
| 12:48.09 | Arrowmaster | laptop feel? |
| 12:48.11 | cbreak | don't know how they work, but they must be mechanical |
| 12:48.18 | Arrowmaster | so they have extremely short throw? |
| 12:48.23 | Adys | Arrowmaster: most mac keyboards have very short and soft keys |
| 12:48.28 | Adys | its like you're typing on moss |
| 12:48.29 | cbreak | I only have to if throw means what I think it means: yes |
| 12:48.33 | Adys | i love that, but they're superexpensive |
| 12:48.40 | cbreak | about 3 or 3 mm pressing |
| 12:48.54 | cbreak | 2 or 3 |
| 12:50.57 | Adys | haste: fuuuu |
| 12:50.57 | Adys | http://www.getdigital.de/products/Das_Keyboard_Model_S/lng/en |
| 12:51.03 | Adys | no professional-silent model :( |
| 12:51.20 | Adys | id like to know why the fuck not, too |
| 12:51.27 | Adys | ultimate gets silent |
| 12:51.35 | Arrowmaster | http://www.daskeyboard.com/products/ |
| 12:51.46 | Adys | yes, thank you, some of us live outside the US |
| 12:52.05 | Arrowmaster | they dont ship outside the us? |
| 12:52.11 | Adys | nop |
| 12:52.28 | Adys | getdigital.de is apparently the only way to get one shipped to the uk |
| 12:53.01 | cbreak | there surely are other good keyboards? |
| 12:53.29 | Arrowmaster | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QB7gRIad274 |
| 12:53.47 | Arrowmaster | i wasnt aware there were so many mechanical keyboards being made still |
| 12:53.51 | Adys | cbreak: there are, but i dont really have a good place to test them at here |
| 12:54.06 | cbreak | yeah :/ |
| 12:54.38 | cbreak | when I wanted to buy a new mouse I couldn't test it either... because I like online shopping :) |
| 12:54.50 | cbreak | but I got partially lucky, and the one I bought doesn't completely suck |
| 12:54.52 | haste | Adys: ask getdigital :P ? |
| 12:54.54 | Adys | also it's REALLY hard to find a keyboard without the media/voip/search/calculator bullshit |
| 12:55.18 | cbreak | you can't change the key bindings? |
| 12:55.28 | Adys | i dont care about the bindings |
| 12:55.35 | Adys | i want a thin/small keyboard |
| 12:55.40 | haste | Adys: wow, they barely have any of the keyboards in stock as well =/ |
| 12:55.56 | Adys | i might get an ultimate |
| 12:56.15 | Adys | its not like it matters im using a pretty unique layout anyway |
| 12:56.40 | Adys | in stock from beginning of september |
| 12:56.42 | Adys | ok now fuck off. |
| 12:56.58 | Arrowmaster | hmm thats interesting checkout the graphs at the bottom http://www.daskeyboard.com/model-s-professional/ http://www.daskeyboard.com/model-s-professional-silent/ |
| 12:57.07 | augustl | wut. Just won a ffa SC2 game against 7 AIs, but didn't get the achivement. |
| 12:57.17 | cbreak | apple keyboars should work on windows too |
| 12:57.31 | cbreak | small and slim, but probably costly |
| 12:57.33 | augustl | the media keys doesn't work out of the box. Volume etc |
| 12:57.55 | Adys | i dont give a shit about the media keys |
| 12:57.57 | cbreak | augustl: do the AIs fight each other? |
| 12:57.58 | Adys | i dont want them |
| 12:58.02 | augustl | cbreak: yeah |
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| 12:58.08 | Adys | the das is one of the rare keyboards that doesnt have them |
| 12:58.15 | augustl | I use the mist oghma, I love it http://images.gfx.no/396/396345/mist_oghma.jpg |
| 12:58.57 | Arrowmaster | what the fuck is that monstrous thing |
| 12:59.10 | Adys | whats so bad about it? |
| 12:59.18 | Adys | apart from the fact it looks uglish |
| 12:59.18 | Arrowmaster | the enter key |
| 12:59.25 | Adys | thats a regular european enter key |
| 12:59.38 | Arrowmaster | crazy euros |
| 12:59.41 | haste | augustl: isn't mist almost impossible to get outside norway :p ? |
| 12:59.48 | Arrowmaster | the right shift and ctrl |
| 13:00.07 | cbreak | Adys: http://www.logitech.com/de-ch/keyboards/keyboard/devices/5759? |
| 13:00.11 | haste | augustl: also, they changed the pagu up/down row |
| 13:00.17 | Arrowmaster | the entire insert/delete block area |
| 13:00.18 | haste | THO SHALL NOT CHANGE ROWS |
| 13:00.36 | augustl | haste: do you know what mist is? |
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| 13:00.44 | haste | augustl: yes |
| 13:00.48 | augustl | haste: they aren't on the internet. Seriously. Try to google them |
| 13:00.50 | Adys | cbreak: i know that one |
| 13:00.57 | Adys | i have multiple issues with its layout |
| 13:01.16 | Adys | maybe ill just get the nonsilent |
| 13:01.23 | cbreak | missing arrow keys and pg-keys |
| 13:01.24 | Arrowmaster | cbreak: another abomination |
| 13:01.28 | haste | there's a reason I said: 1459.14| haste | augustl: isn't mist almost impossible to get outside norway :p ? |
| 13:01.50 | augustl | hmm |
| 13:01.57 | cbreak | the enter key should be big :) |
| 13:02.00 | augustl | so is it made in norway? Can't be, since it's cheap |
| 13:02.08 | cbreak | with the US keyboard at work, I often end up ending lines with $ |
| 13:02.18 | cbreak | because that's right where the return key is on my normal keyboard |
| 13:02.26 | augustl | this one is kind of fun |
| 13:02.26 | augustl | http://www.thinkpads.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/lenovo_thinkpad_usb_trackpoint_keyboard-1.jpg |
| 13:02.28 | haste | augustl: mist is produced by microplex ro so |
| 13:02.31 | Arrowmaster | cbreak: what the fuck? |
| 13:02.36 | augustl | haste: ah i see |
| 13:03.36 | Arrowmaster | cbreak: $ isnt on a shift mode for your layout? |
| 13:04.09 | augustl | doh. You have to create the game via multiplayer to get the insane ffa achievement |
| 13:04.09 | cbreak | in the swiss keyboard layout it is just left of the return key, lower row |
| 13:04.32 | cbreak | but on the US layout on the us keyboard, it's above the return key, where the return key would extend to if it had the same height as in my normal keyboard |
| 13:05.16 | cbreak | I am still getting used to it |
| 13:05.41 | cbreak | the z-y swap is anoying, but somehow, the other special chars are worse |
| 13:05.41 | Arrowmaster | i dont see why the return key needs to be two rows tall |
| 13:05.48 | cbreak | easier to hit :) |
| 13:06.18 | Arrowmaster | not for me, i would always be hitting the other key |
| 13:06.38 | cbreak | I have about 50% hit rate on the US return key |
| 13:06.47 | cbreak | other 50% I either hit between the rows, or the $ key |
| 13:07.00 | Arrowmaster | although i hit return a lot trying to hit ' |
| 13:08.07 | cbreak | anyway, getting used to new keyboard layouts is a pain |
| 13:08.18 | Arrowmaster | can we at least all agree that the layout with a key to the right of the right shift if the most fucked up one? |
| 13:08.38 | cbreak | the only key right to the shift key should be the up arrow key. |
| 13:09.18 | Arrowmaster | used to see that layout a lot here many many years ago |
| 13:09.57 | Arrowmaster | the return was like a combination of the euro and us one and the key it displaced was put to the right of the right shift |
| 13:10.19 | cbreak | at least it's fair |
| 13:10.24 | cbreak | no one can type with that one |
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| 13:11.19 | xanax` | hello |
| 13:11.27 | cbreak | hi |
| 13:11.33 | augustl | it's so cute that the AI says "gg" in chat when it's losing :) |
| 13:12.26 | xanax` | is there an add-on that could let me select several items one by one from a bag, and drag-and-drop them all at once in another bag ? |
| 13:12.46 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 13:14.00 | cbreak | augustl: they don't in coop |
| 13:14.18 | cbreak | I don't think the API allows that easily |
| 13:14.29 | cbreak | it could queue up drag&drop and then try to manually do it afterwards |
| 13:14.42 | cbreak | there are lots of addons that change the view you have on bags though |
| 13:14.53 | cbreak | not used them myself, but some change all bags into one gigantic one |
| 13:14.58 | xanax` | yeah but that's not what I was searching for :-) |
| 13:15.17 | Arrowmaster | picking up items is protected though which is why there are bag templates |
| 13:15.44 | cbreak | hmm. Auctioneer can do it. So it's only protected, and does not require HW events? |
| 13:16.27 | Arrowmaster | its been to long i cant remember |
| 13:16.49 | foxlit | In short, test it if you want to know. |
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| 13:18.43 | sylvanaar | i think for bag sorting at least, im happy with bankstack |
| 13:18.56 | Jerub | i've been using arkinventory |
| 13:19.00 | Jerub | but my wow crashes a bit |
| 13:19.08 | Jerub | and when it does, it loses my arkinventory config :/ |
| 13:19.15 | xanax` | ok, i'll take a look at this "bankstack" |
| 13:19.16 | Jerub | well, sometimes when it crashes |
| 13:19.41 | sylvanaar | bankstack is fast as heck too |
| 13:21.19 | cbreak | how much fun are rogues to play? |
| 13:21.32 | foxlit | |=============| |
| 13:21.34 | foxlit | that fun. |
| 13:21.37 | Fisker | i Jerub u |
| 13:21.42 | xanax` | lol foxlit |
| 13:22.05 | wereHamster | foxlit: you forgot to add (not to scale) |
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| 13:25.34 | mikma | cbreak: they are extremely fun |
| 13:25.48 | mikma | cbreak: i actually loved leveling my rogue to 83 more than i did with my dk |
| 13:26.01 | Kraps | but very frustrating |
| 13:26.04 | mikma | nope |
| 13:26.07 | mikma | not even frustrating |
| 13:26.10 | mikma | extremely fast and fun |
| 13:26.59 | mikma | 1) 5 cp, 2) Recuperate, 3) n+1 cp, 4) SnD, 5) 1 cp, 6) Envenom |
| 13:27.22 | mikma | and when mob dies, Recuperate + Slice and Dice gets refreshed to max dura with Deadly Momentum |
| 13:27.35 | Kraps | derp im talking starting and leveling on live |
| 13:28.29 | mikma | oh, i leveled with substlety, 1-80 =) |
| 13:28.36 | Kraps | :/ |
| 13:28.52 | Kraps | isnt it slow? |
| 13:29.22 | mikma | nope |
| 13:29.36 | mikma | the ambust + evi crits are insane |
| 13:30.00 | mikma | usually you get 2/3 off from mob with the first strikes |
| 13:30.54 | Fisker | me? |
| 13:30.58 | mikma | premeditation -> ambust -> eviscerfate |
| 13:31.06 | mikma | +tpyos |
| 13:31.15 | mikma | feta-salad <3 |
| 13:33.07 | Kraps | Subtlety does have powerful solo survivability |
| 13:33.42 | mikma | yeah |
| 13:33.54 | mikma | some people love the hack and slash -build |
| 13:33.57 | mikma | i didn't |
| 13:46.28 | Kraps | sc2 patch |
| 13:50.26 | cbreak | man, the cataclysm installer is noisy |
| 13:50.44 | Fisker | just like your mom |
| 13:51.10 | cbreak | not really |
| 13:51.23 | cbreak | my mother doesn't sing operas while installing a game |
| 13:52.10 | nevcairiel | just dont focus it |
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| 14:03.35 | Kraps | wooo won my first placement match in 19 minutes |
| 14:09.39 | Thunder_Child | or if you have win 7 you can turn off the sound for that one app |
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| 14:20.07 | Fisker | slaps Thunder_Child around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:22.47 | sylvanaar | ok so Mal'Ganis is totally not working out for me - too much GS BS |
| 14:23.01 | sylvanaar | can anyone recommend an east coast server |
| 14:24.12 | Kraps | wooo won my second placement match in 18 minutes |
| 14:25.22 | Kraps | k so i'm decent against terran? |
| 14:26.20 | Thunder_Child | eats Fisker's trout |
| 14:26.24 | Kraps | early refineries are key i think |
| 14:27.12 | Thunder_Child | http://www.amazon.com/Attack-Vegan-Zombies-Christine-Egan/dp/B0038YX2DM |
| 14:28.00 | Thunder_Child | http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Zombie-Haiku/Ryan-Mecum/e/9781600610707/?itm=1&USRI=zombie+haiku%3a+good+poetry+for+your...brains |
| 14:29.54 | Kraps | why, Thunder_Child? |
| 14:30.05 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: why not? |
| 14:34.58 | mikma | shirik: http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/couples_dynamics.jpg |
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| 14:46.42 | Kraps | i lost :( |
| 14:47.31 | Wobin | Kraps: the game? Yes. |
| 14:47.36 | Kraps | yes |
| 14:48.41 | Kraps | Wobin: prepare for lose the game day http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ7dPCH_gW0 |
| 14:49.20 | Wobin | hm |
| 14:49.29 | Wobin | I will be in Africa on Lose The Game Day |
| 14:49.40 | Wobin | Perhaps I won't actually lose the game then =) |
| 14:50.09 | Kraps | yeah i dont the game is there yet |
| 14:50.16 | Kraps | think |
| 14:50.32 | Wobin | You totally the entire thing |
| 14:51.27 | Kraps | it was accidental! |
| 14:57.55 | Fisker | Wobin |
| 15:00.13 | Fisker | Wobin |
| 15:08.22 | foxlit | It coincides with the "Lose the Metagame Day", Wobin |
| 15:08.37 | foxlit | "For each time you do not lose the game, you lose the metagame." Tell your friends. |
| 15:09.37 | Wobin | well I don't mind losing the metagame |
| 15:09.44 | Wobin | since it implies you didn't lose the game |
| 15:09.55 | foxlit | But see, every time you lose the metagame, you know why you're losing the metagame |
| 15:10.18 | foxlit | So you lose the game. Once you stop losing the game, you once again lose the metagame. |
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| 15:14.26 | Wobin | not at all |
| 15:14.31 | Wobin | I'm blissfully ignorant of the metagame |
| 15:14.40 | Wobin | so my losses or not thereof aren't applicable |
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| 15:21.56 | Fisker | Wobin |
| 15:26.28 | theorbtwo | What a strange game. The only way to win is not to play. |
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| 15:30.03 | Fisker | Wobin |
| 15:34.36 | Kraps | woo silver league rank 83 |
| 15:35.04 | Kraps | btw i beat this last guy in 12 minutes |
| 15:35.46 | Kraps | zerg |
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| 15:36.54 | mikma | lol wat... |
| 15:37.08 | mikma | "Talrendis Point, Azshara (NEVER in 4.x)" |
| 15:37.11 | mikma | nice flypoint |
| 15:38.12 | Fisker | baw? |
| 15:41.29 | mikma | hah |
| 15:41.34 | mikma | throttling in general |
| 15:41.49 | mikma | "The number of messages that can be sent to this channel is limited, please wait to send another message." |
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| 15:46.06 | Fisker | yeah that was nice |
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| 16:14.53 | mikma | ahahhahahahahaha |
| 16:15.02 | mikma | do NOT try to solo Doctor Weavil |
| 16:15.58 | Stanzilla | mind control wins |
| 16:16.42 | mikma | yeah |
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| 16:28.33 | Kraps | my niece stepped on the power cord in the middle of a tight match grrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 16:29.03 | cog|away | lulz? |
| 16:29.16 | Kraps | sads more like |
| 16:29.25 | cogwheel | what game? |
| 16:29.29 | Kraps | sc2 |
| 16:30.04 | Cide | haha ouch |
| 16:30.17 | Fisker | powerguard n00b |
| 16:30.43 | Kraps | does this mean i lost that match? |
| 16:30.47 | Cide | yes |
| 16:30.58 | Kraps | :( |
| 16:32.47 | Kraps | prolly could've beaten him after that wave, zerg aa seems to be lacking |
| 16:33.40 | Cide | lol? |
| 16:33.45 | Cide | hydralisk $$$ |
| 16:34.31 | Kraps | all of them were attacking my base i think |
| 16:35.09 | Cide | basetrade!! |
| 16:37.36 | Tewan | SC2 is win |
| 16:37.44 | Cide | indeed |
| 16:37.51 | Tewan | wtb customizable SC interface :P |
| 16:37.57 | Cide | why....? |
| 16:38.03 | Tewan | No reason |
| 16:38.05 | Tewan | More power to the people |
| 16:38.11 | Tewan | All I want us to scale the bottom bar... |
| 16:38.15 | Tewan | Is* |
| 16:38.18 | Cide | that's stupid and detracts from the competitiveness |
| 16:38.42 | Tewan | Nothing major, just repositioning of stuff |
| 16:38.51 | Cide | you'll be fine |
| 16:38.54 | Tewan | I know :D |
| 16:39.09 | Tewan | Almost done with my interface on WoW... finally. |
| 16:39.23 | Tewan | Although I forget why I closed WoW... |
| 16:39.30 | Tewan | ah, align |
| 16:41.23 | Kraps | my division is reagan gamma |
| 16:41.29 | Kraps | reagan ftw |
| 16:42.07 | Tewan | I haven't been playing much |
| 16:42.15 | Tewan | no one wants to team with me, and I don't wanna 1v1 D: |
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| 16:44.50 | Cide | stop being a pussy and 1v1 |
| 16:45.00 | Tewan | No! >< |
| 16:45.33 | Adys | kd3: ping |
| 16:45.43 | Cide | Adys, pong |
| 16:45.47 | Adys | Cide |
| 16:45.49 | Cide | I have assimilated kd3 |
| 16:45.53 | Adys | 71 weeks left |
| 16:45.59 | Cide | until wat |
| 16:46.07 | Adys | until wine version 1.3.37 |
| 16:46.11 | Cide | nice |
| 16:46.18 | Cide | I hope it will be bugged to hell |
| 16:46.40 | Tewan | heh |
| 16:49.15 | Esamynn | stupid world sever crashes |
| 16:49.30 | Tewan | Haven't seen one of those in ages. |
| 16:49.37 | Esamynn | beta has them all the time |
| 16:49.45 | Tewan | Ah, I'm not in the beta :/ |
| 16:50.11 | Tewan | blizzard generously sent me a SC2 beta key the last weekend before release |
| 16:50.42 | Tewan | pretty much "hey, you know you want this, just play it once... you'll buy it once it release" |
| 16:50.47 | Tewan | +s |
| 16:51.10 | Adys | Cide |
| 16:51.18 | Cide | Adys |
| 16:51.41 | Adys | 1586 weeks left |
| 16:51.45 | Adys | until wine-1.33.7 |
| 16:52.02 | Cide | that's not too bad |
| 16:52.04 | Adys | hm, maybe they'll have released 2.0 by then, I hadn't considered |
| 16:52.19 | Cide | one would hope so |
| 16:52.24 | Adys | well |
| 16:52.31 | Adys | 1500 weeks is only 30ish years |
| 16:52.31 | Tewan | heh |
| 16:52.31 | Cide | considering it's in over 30 years |
| 16:52.39 | Adys | yes well |
| 16:52.50 | Adys | it did take them 20 years to release 1.0 |
| 16:52.50 | Adys | :P |
| 16:53.26 | Esamynn | anyone in around in beta, want to come sign the Lost Isles Alliance Guild charter so we can reform the author's guild? |
| 16:53.43 | Adys | Esamynn: only if i get to name it! |
| 16:53.54 | Adys | <The Knights Who Say Nil> |
| 16:53.56 | Adys | always |
| 16:53.56 | Esamynn | we already named it before they wiped them |
| 16:54.04 | Adys | shoo then! |
| 16:54.07 | Adys | besides i dont have a client |
| 16:54.14 | Esamynn | :P |
| 16:55.51 | Esamynn | ~lart adys |
| 16:55.51 | purl | slaps a compatible dib on adys's head |
| 17:01.50 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/wow/cata/WoWScrnShot_080810_195748.jpg |
| 17:01.51 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/wow/cata/WoWScrnShot_080810_200125.jpg |
| 17:03.22 | smcn | yeah uldum is sweet |
| 17:03.32 | smcn | about time wow got a cool desert zone :P |
| 17:10.00 | Cide | don't knock silithus bro |
| 17:10.10 | Kraps | mikma: do you usually talk to statues? |
| 17:10.33 | nevcairiel | he is weird like that |
| 17:11.05 | mikma | kraps: only if they point at me |
| 17:12.30 | Fisker | uldum is old |
| 17:19.51 | mikma | and yet you have not been there |
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| 17:21.57 | mikma | wait, what? Blizz has now a name generator??? |
| 17:22.01 | mikma | awesum! |
| 17:22.11 | Cide | are you serious? |
| 17:22.22 | mikma | yes, i am |
| 17:22.37 | Cide | it's been in since classic release |
| 17:22.50 | mikma | no, it hasn't :P |
| 17:22.54 | Cide | yes it has |
| 17:22.57 | mikma | it was in beta but was disabled |
| 17:23.00 | jnwhiteh | it was removed at some point |
| 17:23.02 | Cide | I used it for my original character name |
| 17:23.05 | jnwhiteh | it was in release at some point as well |
| 17:23.06 | Cide | about 3 months after release |
| 17:23.17 | Cide | so maybe not at 0-day |
| 17:23.19 | jnwhiteh | it has not been in the game since the game was released, afaik, but it has been in the game _during_ release. |
| 17:23.21 | Cide | but definitely since then |
| 17:23.31 | Cide | yeah, I used it 3 months after release |
| 17:23.36 | mikma | no you didn't :D |
| 17:23.40 | Cide | yes I did |
| 17:23.44 | Cide | I named my character Kayun with it |
| 17:23.44 | jnwhiteh | lol? |
| 17:23.47 | mikma | no you didn't :D |
| 17:23.51 | Cide | you're so fail |
| 17:23.56 | mikma | no u |
| 17:24.04 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:26.50 | Esamynn | anyone in around in beta, want to come sign the Lost Isles Alliance Guild charter so we can reform the author's guild? |
| 17:27.24 | Ressy | name generator has always been in the US version. Its not active in the EU |
| 17:27.52 | Cide | there you go nubface |
| 17:27.52 | Esamynn | I know for a fact the name generator was there in late |
| 17:27.59 | Esamynn | Late December 04 |
| 17:28.04 | Esamynn | ahh |
| 17:28.05 | Cide | ohhh |
| 17:28.08 | Cide | <Cide> yeah, I used it 3 months after release |
| 17:28.12 | mikma | it has never been actice in eu |
| 17:28.14 | Esamynn | yes, it's known to not be there in the EU |
| 17:28.19 | mikma | not even in beta classic |
| 17:28.31 | jnwhiteh | Esamynn: I can make a new char |
| 17:28.35 | jnwhiteh | Esamynn: if that helps |
| 17:28.38 | Esamynn | sure, please |
| 17:28.40 | jnwhiteh | what race? |
| 17:28.45 | Esamynn | only need 2 more signatures |
| 17:28.47 | nevcairiel | I wanted to use the name generator at some point, and i distinctly remembered there being one, so i must've seen it somewhere |
| 17:28.57 | Esamynn | jnwhiteh: human, Lost Isles |
| 17:28.58 | nevcairiel | might've been closed US classic beta |
| 17:29.37 | jnwhiteh | Esamynn: I'm at the abbey, where should I go? |
| 17:29.46 | Esamynn | name? |
| 17:30.09 | jnwhiteh | cladhaire |
| 17:30.47 | Esamynn | just need 1 more now |
| 17:32.29 | Esamynn | anyone else around who is in the beta? |
| 17:32.32 | cbreak | Esamynn: I am |
| 17:32.40 | cbreak | mecha server |
| 17:32.42 | cbreak | (EU) |
| 17:32.53 | Esamynn | cbreak: Lost Isles, Alliance Side, can you make a human to sign the charter? |
| 17:33.13 | cbreak | I have a human mage |
| 17:33.19 | Esamynn | that works |
| 17:33.22 | Esamynn | name? |
| 17:33.24 | cbreak | checking if I can aaccess lost isles |
| 17:33.30 | cbreak | that's a server, right? |
| 17:33.33 | Esamynn | yes |
| 17:33.34 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 17:33.38 | cbreak | will have to create a char on it :( |
| 17:33.39 | nevcairiel | well, also a zone |
| 17:33.52 | cbreak | wonder if that works for EU testers |
| 17:33.53 | Esamynn | aye, just create a human |
| 17:33.58 | Esamynn | did for clad |
| 17:34.53 | cbreak | "HunterXHunter", the human huntress :) |
| 17:35.09 | Esamynn | lol |
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| 17:35.30 | cbreak | load time in yellow is something else... :) |
| 17:35.52 | Esamynn | hehe |
| 17:36.55 | cbreak | omg |
| 17:37.00 | cbreak | human hunters start with a pet |
| 17:37.17 | Fisker | old |
| 17:37.26 | nevcairiel | all hunters do |
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| 17:50.23 | Esamynn | dang, rank permissions won't save :( |
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| 17:58.34 | kd3 | color me unsurprised |
| 17:59.18 | Esamynn | ok |
| 17:59.29 | Esamynn | Lost Isles Alliance Guild has been reformed |
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| 18:04.16 | zenzelezz | with Cataclysm you should've said "reforged" :( |
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| 18:09.14 | Fisker | i hate you kd3 |
| 18:09.25 | Fisker | gets out a paintbrush |
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| 18:21.54 | Kraps | Fisker: your mom |
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| 18:31.58 | Kraps | http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/08/04extra02.jpg |
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| 18:37.03 | Shirik | If your order is received before 8:00 AM EST today it will ship today. If it's received on the weekend or after 8:00am EST then it will |
| 18:37.03 | Shirik | ship the next business day. |
| 18:37.11 | Shirik | I believe this specification is in conflict with itself. |
| 18:37.59 | ScytheBlade1 | How? |
| 18:38.15 | foxlit | Today is a sunday |
| 18:38.20 | foxlit | sunday is part of the weekend. |
| 18:38.49 | foxlit | Shirik's just being inflexible in resolving rule overrides. |
| 18:39.05 | Shirik | it didn't say "except" |
| 18:39.07 | Dewin | that's because the function returns before reaching the second conditional |
| 18:39.08 | Kraps | i think hes having cpu overload |
| 18:39.10 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 18:39.13 | Fisker | bitches |
| 18:42.49 | Kraps | Fisker: is that your mom? |
| 18:43.48 | Shirik | Am I the only one that thinks "Max protection" is not an appropriate name for a company that specializes in card sleeves? |
| 18:44.47 | Jamash | sounds like a condom manufacturer imo |
| 18:47.38 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/wow/cata/WoWScrnShot_080810_201934.jpg |
| 18:48.00 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/wow/cata/WoWScrnShot_080810_214656.jpg <- i just love how that colossus is bitchslapping the other colossus that's trapped in the sand |
| 18:49.22 | Dashkal | I really wish that stupid buy sc2 page wouldn't show up when you have a battle.net cookie for an account that already bought the game. |
| 18:49.36 | Stanzilla | mikma: oh uldum unlocked now? |
| 18:50.13 | mikma | well, the "way" is open there |
| 18:50.24 | Stanzilla | ok |
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| 18:50.35 | Stanzilla | no more invisble walls you have problems getting out of again? :D |
| 18:50.36 | kd3 | mikma; yah, I noticed that too |
| 18:50.39 | Amarande | G'afternoon. :) |
| 18:50.50 | kd3 | you can get out the way you got in. there are still invisible walls, though |
| 18:50.50 | mikma | located where the mobs for noggenfogger gland are located |
| 18:51.03 | Amarande | heh, my favorite stupid invisible wall trick is standing in mid-air near that one fountain in shattrath |
| 18:51.09 | Stanzilla | kd3: ever got into the "trap" in hyjal? |
| 18:51.17 | mikma | kd3: i have bumbed into 0 walls :D |
| 18:51.20 | Stanzilla | at the big tree down a hill |
| 18:51.26 | kd3 | ya stan |
| 18:51.35 | Kraps | Dashkal: it shouldnt show if you're logged in to bney |
| 18:51.35 | kd3 | mik; try flying out of the zone not through the pass |
| 18:51.38 | Stanzilla | never found a way out of that |
| 18:51.47 | Dashkal | Kraps: Shouldn't, but does. |
| 18:51.59 | mikma | kd3: that's another thing, the whole zone is covered with invwalls |
| 18:52.42 | kd3 | speaking of uldum exploration... '...wtf? pirates?' |
| 18:53.17 | mikma | hehe |
| 18:53.38 | mikma | kd3: http://mikma.eu/wow/cata/WoWScrnShot_080810_215010.jpg |
| 18:53.49 | kd3 | ya |
| 18:53.52 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/wow/cata/WoWScrnShot_080810_215333.jpg |
| 18:56.07 | kd3 | har. it's like we're reading each others' minds |
| 18:56.16 | kd3 | and screw you for getting that song stuck in my head |
| 18:57.11 | mikma | haha <2 |
| 18:57.13 | mikma | <3 * |
| 18:57.24 | mikma | same problem, spotify to the rescue |
| 18:58.11 | mikma | grrrr |
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| 18:59.44 | Fisker | i hate those damn pirates |
| 19:00.17 | mikma | kd3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjTV8i_KjXM |
| 19:00.27 | Dashkal | Who should I pester for beta guild invites? |
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| 19:01.33 | Dashkal | Esamynn: Dash in game is me |
| 19:01.45 | mikma | depends on which realm |
| 19:01.48 | mikma | us or eu |
| 19:02.12 | Dashkal | us/pve. And Esamynn just hooked me up |
| 19:02.29 | mikma | hooked you into secure hookers |
| 19:04.49 | Fisker | halion is a jerk |
| 19:06.59 | Esamynn | Fisker: what, because he's out to kill you? |
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| 19:07.13 | Fisker | yeah |
| 19:07.57 | kd3 | whee. budd's party is ready to go into uldum. sad that I'm too low-level to accept adarrah's quest |
| 19:08.19 | Fisker | baw |
| 19:08.33 | Fisker | l2bethatlevelwhichisrequiredtoaccepthequestkd3 |
| 19:08.43 | kd3 | 84, probably |
| 19:08.48 | Fisker | also thanksfortestinghelpingustestthecataclysmbetakd3 |
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| 19:09.46 | Esamynn | kd3: got into uldum huh? |
| 19:09.58 | Esamynn | oh, misread |
| 19:10.00 | kd3 | the invisible wall blocking the pass is gone |
| 19:10.01 | Fisker | uldum is last years news |
| 19:10.03 | kd3 | you can get in |
| 19:10.12 | kd3 | there's still plenty of invisiwalls elsewhere, though |
| 19:10.14 | Fisker | (Because you couldn't before hurr hurr) |
| 19:11.07 | Amarande | hmm, those of you in beta land ... |
| 19:11.28 | Amarande | are the LK raid titles still available in cata, or are they being removed from the achievements like the BC raid titles were when LK came out? |
| 19:11.36 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv9hfuocvEI |
| 19:11.46 | kd3 | dunno |
| 19:12.24 | zenzelezz | they should remove Kingslayer and make people who do it in Cataclysm become King's Lawyer |
| 19:14.11 | mikma | hahahahahaha |
| 19:14.36 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/wow/cata/WoWScrnShot_080810_221430.jpg |
| 19:14.39 | mikma | that's so cure |
| 19:14.44 | mikma | cute* |
| 19:14.52 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/wow/cata/WoWScrnShot_080810_221421.jpg |
| 19:14.55 | mikma | looks like fisker |
| 19:15.36 | Esamynn | god damn world server crashes! |
| 19:15.44 | kd3 | lol |
| 19:15.45 | kd3 | sorry |
| 19:15.55 | kd3 | I think I know how that one happened |
| 19:15.55 | kd3 | >.> |
| 19:16.02 | kd3 | fires off an email |
| 19:16.35 | Esamynn | kd3: was that you? |
| 19:16.43 | kd3 | probably |
| 19:16.47 | Esamynn | lol |
| 19:17.56 | mitchnull | try to repeat ;) |
| 19:17.58 | Dashkal | Is there a workaround for the training bug or do I have to drop a profession? |
| 19:18.25 | olafski | that does look cute mikma |
| 19:18.37 | mikma | and he sounds twice as cute |
| 19:18.43 | Fisker | naw kd3 |
| 19:18.44 | mikma | UBUDU LUBUDU! |
| 19:18.52 | Fisker | it wasn't you unless you can reproduce |
| 19:18.53 | Fisker | bam |
| 19:19.02 | Fisker | and naw, not that kind of reproducing |
| 19:19.07 | Shirik | Esamynn |
| 19:19.08 | Shirik | hi |
| 19:19.12 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 19:19.14 | Esamynn | Shirik: |
| 19:19.16 | Esamynn | hi |
| 19:19.21 | mikma | i found old friend there |
| 19:19.42 | kd3 | http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100808191502/wowwiki/images/0/04/Uldum_entrance_in_Thistleshrub_Valley.jpg |
| 19:19.48 | kd3 | the one and only entrance to uldum at present ^ |
| 19:20.00 | Esamynn | yes, found it |
| 19:20.11 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/wow/cata/WoWScrnShot_080810_221933.jpg |
| 19:20.28 | zenzelezz | Thistleshrub Valley... how much more appropriate than, say, the big front gates of Uldum |
| 19:20.37 | Dagmar | How the hell did we go this long without someone noticing that entrance? |
| 19:20.42 | Fisker | naw kd3 |
| 19:20.47 | kd3 | they're blocked off inside. there's a level-appropriate (for tanaris) quest just inside |
| 19:20.58 | Fisker | there's an entrance in the caverns of time as well |
| 19:21.06 | Esamynn | O_o |
| 19:21.08 | kd3 | yup, that's how I got in back during alpha |
| 19:21.13 | Esamynn | where? |
| 19:21.18 | kd3 | one of the walls doesn't have collision, you can fly under the world |
| 19:21.24 | Esamynn | HAHA |
| 19:21.27 | Esamynn | ok, this I must see |
| 19:21.29 | Fisker | i wonder if they'll do something to the uldamann quest then |
| 19:21.58 | Dagmar | Hey those are camels |
| 19:22.06 | kd3 | yes, yes they are |
| 19:22.17 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/wow/cata/WoWScrnShot_080810_222202.jpg <- sultan :D |
| 19:22.25 | mikma | riding a hyena. priceless |
| 19:22.27 | fiphi | Eeeeh. |
| 19:22.37 | Dagmar | I'm impressed. Just plain camels. |
| 19:22.37 | fiphi | mikma: wtf is that? :D |
| 19:22.55 | Dagmar | No extra horns taped on or nothing |
| 19:23.09 | Dagmar | :) |
| 19:23.15 | kd3 | fiphi; that's a pygmy riding the hyena there. first seen on the lost isles |
| 19:23.18 | kd3 | www.wowwiki.com/Pygmy |
| 19:23.40 | fiphi | Haha, cute. |
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| 19:24.08 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/wow/cata/WoWScrnShot_080810_222400.jpg <- Lady Humps :DDDDDDD |
| 19:24.42 | Fisker | i also couldn't start the questline in Twilight highlands kd3 :( |
| 19:24.45 | Fisker | it kinda sucks |
| 19:24.54 | Fisker | i wanted a flightpath there |
| 19:28.18 | Amarande | gah |
| 19:28.22 | Amarande | what a terrible tank we had for HHoR |
| 19:28.50 | Amarande | also, I just love how pug members always blame each other for the wipe |
| 19:29.05 | Amarande | let's see ... tank can't position mobs properly at all, keeps moving them around for no good reason |
| 19:29.15 | olafski | to keep things interesting? |
| 19:29.24 | Amarande | then blames me for wipes because my DPS is too low because I have to keep moving ten times as much as I ever have to in said fight ... |
| 19:30.02 | Amarande | great, now I can't even do HHoR again because we got falric so I'm saved, and my only chance at filling my tank weapon slot AT ALL today now is to HOPE we get Paletress in TOC5H |
| 19:30.32 | zenzelezz | class? |
| 19:30.36 | Amarande | zenzelezz: DK |
| 19:30.40 | Amarande | which means I need a 2H weapon for tanking |
| 19:31.03 | Amarande | and the ONLY good ones I know of pre-raid are Quel'Delar, the polearm from Marwyn heroic, and the two 2H from TOC5H, both of which ONLY appear IF you get Paletress and not Eadric |
| 19:31.17 | Amarande | I think the only ones you can even GET before that that are appropriate at all are *blues* |
| 19:31.26 | Amarande | besides those |
| 19:32.27 | Amarande | and I am not EFFING saving up 8000+g just to buy a damn hilt |
| 19:32.50 | Amarande | I don't even have my epic flying yet on this character, plus if I have that much gold, there's BoE tank plate I can get from AH |
| 19:33.15 | olafski | holy crap I haven't talked to you for months and you still don't have epic flying? |
| 19:33.21 | olafski | sorry for the language :P |
| 19:33.22 | Amarande | olafski: haven't been focusing that much on gold |
| 19:33.33 | Amarande | and when I am, it's because I need it for gems and enchants, mostly |
| 19:33.38 | olafski | well.. I'd have made that kind of gold by accident in that time :/ |
| 19:33.46 | Kraps | yeah dude dont say crap |
| 19:34.09 | Amarande | but yeah, there's precisely four pre-raid blood DK tanking weapons worth a damn :( |
| 19:34.14 | olafski | I cancelled my sub a few months ago.. resubbed yesterday just to sell all my old enchanting stuff and gems to be ready for cataclysm :) |
| 19:34.23 | Amarande | and one of those is quel'delar :| |
| 19:34.43 | olafski | are there any other pre-raid tanking weapons available for other specs? in that case --> respec :P |
| 19:34.45 | Amarande | and two of them require that you get a specific boss spawn which is at a 50% chance, before you even consider drop rates and need rolls |
| 19:34.50 | olafski | I tank in frost with QD :D |
| 19:35.09 | Amarande | olafski: only if you want to frost-DW tank |
| 19:35.16 | Amarande | unholy would be wanting the same four |
| 19:35.17 | olafski | hm maybe I should buy another for my paladin or something |
| 19:35.21 | Amarande | as would frost-2H tanking |
| 19:35.44 | Amarande | basically, there really just aren't that many pre-raid good 2H weapons, period |
| 19:36.00 | Amarande | and when you reduce it to the weapon types that DKs can use you get only those four |
| 19:36.18 | olafski | hm I wonder what I used before I got QD |
| 19:36.27 | olafski | oh yeah that boring looking axe from naxxramas |
| 19:36.58 | Amarande | and the only crafted 200 epic 2H is a mace, which helps DKs not at all |
| 19:37.14 | Amarande | so unless you can get the ones from marwyn or paletress ... yeah who wants a tank using a blue weapon :P |
| 19:38.06 | Amarande | olafski: I'd love to have QD, but I don't have 8,000+ gold, and like I said if I did I could pick up a piece of 264 tank plate |
| 19:38.57 | olafski | a weapon has a lot more impact than some random piece of armor imo |
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| 19:40.53 | olafski | ah yes Betrayer of Humanity is the one I used to use |
| 19:40.59 | olafski | ugly thing but the stats were ok |
| 19:41.26 | olafski | colossal skull clad cleaver could work, but I bet there's blues with more stamina on it |
| 19:42.17 | olafski | you could also try to do onyxia and get one of the weapons there.. |
| 19:42.49 | olafski | mourning malice looks nice.. from a normal dungeon even so you can farm it |
| 19:43.54 | olafski | anywho I see plenty of options.. of course quel'delar is the best of them but if you don't want to spend money I imagine mourning malice would not be that difficult to get |
| 19:47.43 | olafski | so I've nearly finished the SC2 campaign.. would've liked if they did a couple more missions like "defeat the enemy" ;( |
| 19:48.04 | krka | that's so warcraft2 |
| 19:48.07 | Cide | that's what multiplayer is for |
| 19:48.13 | olafski | I don't do multiplayer |
| 19:48.18 | Cide | then suit yourself |
| 19:48.27 | olafski | maybe I'll do a skirmish game or so |
| 19:48.29 | Amarande | ahh, there is one more option weaponwise too that i forgot about |
| 19:48.34 | Amarande | the axe from heroic Tyrannus |
| 19:48.39 | olafski | yeah that too |
| 19:48.50 | Amarande | and since PoS is fairly easy, I only have to worry about the Tyrannus bug (did they ever hotfix that?) and not fail groups like with HOR |
| 19:48.52 | olafski | so 5 options, at least one of which can easily be farmed :P |
| 19:49.23 | Amarande | olafski: that's if anyone will take me in Ony now, seeing as someone even ignored me for being a QQer after I chewed out the fail tank from HOR :P |
| 19:49.44 | Dagmar | You? Whining? Never! |
| 19:49.45 | olafski | meh, put them on ignore too and be done with it ;) |
| 19:49.48 | olafski | haha dagmar :P |
| 19:49.55 | Amarande | Dagmar: actually, in this case, the tank really was made of suck |
| 19:50.05 | Amarande | actually, this tank should also be a stiff warning to anyone relying on GS (which note I made, heh) |
| 19:50.12 | Amarande | he had enough gear to be near 60k HP |
| 19:50.13 | olafski | cide: the main thing that bothered me is that whenever I get a new unit, I like to click it 20 times to hear all the speeches it makes.. all these timed missions didn't allow me to do that ;) |
| 19:50.24 | Amarande | ... he also apparently didn't even know BASIC mob positioning on the waves at the beginning of HoR. |
| 19:50.37 | Cide | there weren't many timed missions |
| 19:50.38 | olafski | why would you care about positioning if you have 60k hp |
| 19:50.48 | Amarande | olafski: so your DPS can actually do damage, and not get nommed? |
| 19:50.49 | olafski | cide: well, a lot of them felt rushed imo |
| 19:50.54 | Amarande | everyone knows that in HHoR you pull the spirit waves into the alcove and kill them there |
| 19:51.02 | Amarande | this guy was making us kill them out in the open |
| 19:51.06 | olafski | "do this only during the day", "get the drop pods before they're eaten" etc |
| 19:51.15 | olafski | amarande: really? |
| 19:51.21 | Amarande | and kept *pulling the mobs around* so I was doing the most pathetic DPS ever because I kept having to run after them |
| 19:51.31 | olafski | killing them in the open is what I did the first time I went there |
| 19:51.40 | olafski | never after that did it go as well as the first time |
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| 19:51.46 | Dagmar | Amarande: No, everyone does _not_ know that because it's not true |
| 19:51.48 | Amarande | and then on the eighth wave or so I got three-shotted because those mobs saw me first while I was still out in the open after finishing off the seventh wave. |
| 19:52.21 | Amarande | I think one time he let the healer get nearly nommed pretty similarly, which resulted in several deaths on Falric because he got too low on mana after surviving that |
| 19:52.22 | Dagmar | It's the lazy-bitch-who-overgears-it-aoe method |
| 19:52.35 | Cide | fail |
| 19:52.43 | Dagmar | No, really? The healer got aggro because you had how much space between the tank and the healer? |
| 19:52.43 | Amarande | but basically, yeah, he had the gear, but he was no good at tanking |
| 19:53.08 | Amarande | Dagmar: I'm not sure, I was too busy trying to keep up with the mobs that he kept pulling around every which way instead of keeping them in one spot so melee DPS could actually well you know melee |
| 19:53.19 | Dagmar | Sounds to me like your attempt at hiding in the corner wasn't working because you guys weren't using your brains |
| 19:53.44 | Dagmar | Dude, I go in there with guildmates and we fight them right in the neck of the hallway |
| 19:53.55 | Amarande | also where are these supposed weapons from Ony |
| 19:54.01 | Amarande | all I see in the loot list for Ony is armor and trinkets |
| 19:54.07 | olafski | oO |
| 19:54.12 | olafski | obsidian edged blade, shadowstrike |
| 19:54.12 | Dagmar | It's *much* easier to beat them than trying to all hide in a corner and spam your AoEs and hope the mobs you can't see in the soup don't do something weird and kill you |
| 19:54.18 | Amarande | oh, there's another page |
| 19:54.21 | Amarande | *headdesk* |
| 19:54.22 | olafski | :P |
| 19:54.25 | Amarande | ONY YOU HAVE TOO MUCH LOOT |
| 19:54.28 | olafski | that's only the 2 I remember |
| 19:54.54 | Amarande | Dagmar: weird, every time I did HHoR before that we did the hide in the corner strategy |
| 19:55.02 | Dagmar | Healer dies first, then rogues, then their tanks, then their mages and hunters. Do not touch mages until you are ready to kill them. Easy peasy. |
| 19:55.40 | Amarande | and every time I did HHoR before that, I didn't do 2.5k dps because I was chasing after mobs instead of damaging them, and I didn't die horribly on one wave because I got first shot in the back for 10,000 by something or other and then finished off with two more hits as I was trying to get into the corner |
| 19:55.57 | Amarande | (which attack is it that does 10k, anyway) |
| 19:56.07 | Dagmar | Sounds like one of the rogues backstabbed you or something |
| 19:56.30 | Dagmar | ...which is why we put them to highre priority. They like to up and ignore the tank and just shadowstep all over the healer |
| 19:56.31 | Amarande | and then the tank was helpfully "well dont stand in the open" |
| 19:56.51 | Amarande | errrmmmm ... yeah, I was in the open, because you had the previous wave out there in the open and that's where I was when I was helping you finish them off? |
| 19:56.57 | Dagmar | I stand in the open because I'm a hunter and I can lock the mobs down if they go for me |
| 19:57.24 | Dagmar | That and throwing out traps doens't work for shit in the corner |
| 19:57.26 | Amarande | so basically I was in the open *because* of the tank's mob positioning (and being melee, I kinda have to go where the mobs are ... :|) and the tank blames me for dying because I was in the open |
| 19:57.36 | Fisker | HELLO |
| 19:57.43 | Amarande | and I was doing 2.5k dps on a number of waves *because* of the tank's mob positioning, and the tank blames me for doing too little dps |
| 19:57.54 | Amarande | hello? I'm a DK? I can't really DPS mobs if I'm not in melee? |
| 19:58.03 | Amarande | and I'm not in melee all that much if you keep moving the mobs around for no reason? |
| 19:58.05 | Amarande | *gah!* |
| 19:58.09 | Dagmar | You got aggro for attacking something the tank didn't have a good threat lead on |
| 19:58.39 | Amarande | Dagmar: actually the wave I died I hadn't attacked anything yet |
| 19:58.50 | Amarande | I was on my way to the next target and got it in the back |
| 19:59.12 | Dagmar | Either way, try to find a group with balls and just fight them out in the open |
| 19:59.16 | Amarande | which means I got aggro because I was too near the mobs as they spawned in, because the tank had positioned the last mobs from the previous wave at the spot I happened to be. |
| 19:59.48 | Dagmar | If you use CC on a mob or two and don't make the mages split early, it's not that damn hard |
| 19:59.49 | Amarande | but yeah the tank still thought he was such a hotshot, probably because he had 59.7k HP |
| 20:00.17 | Amarande | and this, children, is why you should make sure your instance mates, particularly the tank, know the fights. never mind their gear. :) |
| 20:01.08 | Dagmar | When I decided I wanted the rest of my T9 I and a guildmate pugged the available slots and pretty much pounded those three instances all weekend long |
| 20:01.54 | Amarande | Dagmar: on normal though I'm presuming? |
| 20:01.59 | Dagmar | By the time it was done, Cayda (paladin) was pulling 2-3 groups of trash in PoS |
| 20:02.05 | Amarande | since you can only heroic it once a day |
| 20:02.07 | Amarande | if we were on normal, I suspect we'd have been okay :) |
| 20:02.11 | Dagmar | Amarande: Yep, and heroic at the end of the night |
| 20:02.22 | Amarande | HHoR is brutality defined though whenever you have any fail at all in the group apparently |
| 20:02.35 | Amarande | especially when the tank apparently doesn't know the fights |
| 20:02.43 | Amarande | I can forgive the fighting in the open bit |
| 20:02.51 | Dagmar | Yeah the escape phase of HHoR is the bitchiest fight in the game in a 5-man |
| 20:02.59 | Amarande | but not the constantly moving the mobs around, causing melee DPS to hemorrhage DPS |
| 20:03.07 | Dagmar | We can roflstomp every other encounter, and that one is still dodgy |
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| 20:03.15 | Amarande | or the fact that he let the healer almost get nommed, leading to several deaths on Falric and a near wipe on that boss actually |
| 20:03.27 | Amarande | we wouldn't have survived another fear, for sure |
| 20:03.54 | Dagmar | You guys gotta stop trying to coerce the fights into a button-spam race\ |
| 20:04.03 | Amarande | Dagmar: can you explain any rational reason for constantly moving around the mobs on those waves? |
| 20:04.13 | Amarande | (and if you do, can you really blame melee DPS for their meters dropping? :P) |
| 20:04.23 | Dagmar | Why are you asking me to explain whatever crazy plan you had in mind? |
| 20:04.35 | Amarande | heh, I didn't have that plan in mind, I was just the innocent melee DPS victim |
| 20:04.36 | Dagmar | Oh my god meters dropped. The world will end. |
| 20:04.45 | Amarande | Dagmar: yeah, *we* understand that. |
| 20:04.45 | olafski | :D |
| 20:04.50 | olafski | wait what.. what's this "CC" you speak of? |
| 20:04.53 | Amarande | OTOH, PUG players are like "YOU FAIL YOU DID 2.5K DPS" |
| 20:04.59 | Dagmar | olafski: It's what the real pros use |
| 20:05.09 | Amarande | And I'm sure if I'd pressed him on it, he'd have said something even lamer |
| 20:05.20 | Amarande | like saying I should have taken a crappy run speed enchant on my boots instead of the good AP enchant |
| 20:05.22 | Dagmar | I've quit a few pugs in the last two weeks because someone wanted to be a jackass about my DPS on the meters on my warlock |
| 20:05.25 | Amarande | (why? just because you're a fail tank?) |
| 20:05.47 | Amarande | BiS enchant for boots on DPS DK is the AP one. End of story. |
| 20:05.54 | Dagmar | If they're so damn stupid they don't know what the problem is with dots and mobs that live for all of 8 seconds at most, they're not the people I want to work with |
| 20:06.29 | Amarande | Dagmar: now you know one reason I got fed up with Guild Wars |
| 20:06.44 | Amarande | in the end, my favorite class was my Mesmer |
| 20:06.54 | Amarande | but Mesmers have tons of utility value and aren't quite as visibly pewpew as the other classes |
| 20:07.03 | Amarande | so you end up doing everything hero and henchmen and hardly ever get to visit the elite content :| |
| 20:07.18 | Dagmar | I don't play games where you can stack stats to the point where you're two-shotting people. |
| 20:07.29 | Dagmar | Hence, I don't PvP much in WoW unless I'm just whoring honor |
| 20:08.00 | Amarande | People seem to apparently not care much for debuffers anymore, unless it's essentials like sunder armor or debuffs that amplify regular rotation DPS like DK diseases |
| 20:08.15 | Dagmar | The same people who think-two shotting takes skill tend to also look down on everyone else who doesn't two-shot people |
| 20:08.37 | Dagmar | ...the next phase is simply them complaining that "the game has been over-simplified" |
| 20:08.39 | Amarande | I stopped playing my warlock because it just wasn't fun anymore. |
| 20:09.32 | Amarande | I was always deficient on DPS in PvE when I played Demo or Aff, Destro just didn't seem all that fun, and PvP? It wasn't until a fair ways into LK that warlocks stopped getting the short end of the stick on like EVERYTHING in PvP. |
| 20:09.32 | Dagmar | Next time you're in HoR struggling with Failrik and Marvin, tell your group to go check the closet for a spare set of balls, and fight them where the hall meets the circular area |
| 20:09.54 | foxlit | I failed the fast expand achievement :/ |
| 20:10.03 | Amarande | Dagmar: oddly enough, Falric was pretty straightforward, apart from a couple of deaths from fear dot near the end due to the healer having gone OOM |
| 20:10.04 | Cide | as what race? |
| 20:10.04 | Dagmar | Nah, Seed of Corruption is great for PvP honor whoring |
| 20:10.08 | Amarande | which, in turn, had been the fault of the previous wave |
| 20:10.08 | foxlit | Terran |
| 20:10.11 | Cide | ah |
| 20:10.17 | Cide | I get it every game as zerg pretty much :P |
| 20:10.33 | Cide | except in 1v1's on 2 player maps |
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| 20:10.39 | Cide | other than blistering sands |
| 20:10.44 | Dagmar | Sounds like you needed more (as in probably *some*) CC |
| 20:10.51 | foxlit | Can't get the timing right, really |
| 20:10.58 | foxlit | some achievement-time stopwatch could be nice |
| 20:11.10 | Cide | just play zerg once and get an expansion on 13 drones |
| 20:11.26 | Cide | or are there race-specific achievements? |
| 20:11.37 | foxlit | nah |
| 20:12.08 | Dagmar | You can pretty much always CC either the mage or the hunter in those waves, often *both* |
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| 20:12.40 | foxlit | before pool, cide? |
| 20:12.43 | Cide | yes |
| 20:12.53 | foxlit | Strange builds you're doing :) |
| 20:13.31 | Dagmar | That pretty much leaves you with three mobs, which becomes two very quickly if you don't waste any time about taking out their healer |
| 20:13.31 | Cide | I usually do 14 hatch 13 pool or 14 hatch 14 pool |
| 20:13.31 | Amarande | Dagmar: yeah I'm not sure if we did have any CC |
| 20:13.39 | Cide | works well |
| 20:13.41 | Amarande | we had ... druid tank, shaman healer, DPS were ... hmm, think it was DK, pally and rogue but I'm foggy now |
| 20:13.54 | Cide | on all but the smallest of maps |
| 20:15.17 | Dagmar | OUch |
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| 20:17.15 | Dagmar | Well, the next time you go in there, try it with 1-2 CCers |
| 20:17.29 | Amarande | yeah this was randoms, so we didn't really get our pick |
| 20:17.33 | Dagmar | It's much, much easier to survive it, even if it does mean a few people have to actually pay attention to whatg's going on |
| 20:17.46 | Amarande | hmm is it just me or do some of the drops from onyxia really, really suck? |
| 20:17.51 | Dagmar | Without any CC all you get is "taking it in the face" and "hiding in the corner" as your options |
| 20:18.10 | Amarande | like the quel'serrars |
| 20:18.13 | Amarande | worst. epics. ever |
| 20:21.02 | olafski | :O |
| 20:21.05 | olafski | I hate you now |
| 20:22.21 | Amarande | hmm what day is today ... sunday ... almost reset time. |
| 20:22.25 | Amarande | one more day. |
| 20:22.30 | Amarande | should do ony25 tonight or tomorrow |
| 20:26.00 | olafski | thunderstrike has 180 stamina.. wouldn't call that too bad |
| 20:26.25 | olafski | more than quel'delar even |
| 20:26.33 | olafski | I'd love to tank with 2x quel'serrar |
| 20:26.48 | Amarande | neither quel'serrar really seems to have "enough" on it |
| 20:26.58 | Amarande | I'm used to weapons that give you better than just a single stat bonus and a proc you shouldn't be needing anyway |
| 20:27.06 | Amarande | (if you're not def capped why are you raid tanking anyway) |
| 20:27.24 | Amarande | Blizz has been known for some fairly lemon epics before though |
| 20:28.22 | olafski | it's just the old weapon with stats for a lvl 232 / 245 item |
| 20:28.35 | olafski | I used that in vanilla, would be extremely awesome to have it now |
| 20:28.41 | olafski | but I won't do onyxia |
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| 20:29.49 | olafski | (and in vanilla we weren't generally "defcapped" iirc |
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| 20:58.10 | Cralor` | Cide: what does the '14' stand for? |
| 20:58.41 | Cide | what? |
| 20:58.43 | Cide | oh |
| 20:58.45 | Cide | population |
| 20:58.57 | Cide | supply in sc2 terms |
| 20:59.04 | Cide | I'm still using age of empires 2 terminology |
| 20:59.21 | Cralor` | so like 14 drone, then make hatch, 14 drone, then make pool? |
| 20:59.36 | Cralor` | i'm still learning you see :P |
| 20:59.40 | Cide | yes |
| 20:59.45 | Cralor` | ah k |
| 21:00.00 | Cide | 14 hatch 13 pool is hatch then pool immediately |
| 21:00.18 | Cralor` | hmm confused |
| 21:00.24 | Cralor` | what's the 13 then |
| 21:00.27 | Cralor` | ohhh |
| 21:00.31 | Cide | since you lose a drone when you make the hatch |
| 21:00.34 | Cralor` | yep |
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| 21:02.06 | Cralor` | what's "OL (dual extractor)" |
| 21:05.15 | Cralor` | does anyone know if the new Battle.net Away functionality is still considered being AFK |
| 21:06.08 | Cralor` | i'll have to test |
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| 21:35.44 | Kraps | whats pause griefing? |
| 21:37.53 | foxlit | "Cralor`: what's "OL (dual extractor)"" << You can build and cancel extractors cheeply |
| 21:38.09 | foxlit | They're 25min a piece, you get 70% back when you cancel. |
| 21:38.37 | foxlit | Sometimes, if you're supply-locked in early game, you can build two extractors to lose the supply costs from two drones |
| 21:38.58 | foxlit | After you've started morphing whatever it is you want from that extra supply, you can cancel the extractors and get the drones back. |
| 21:41.33 | Cralor` | ohh cool |
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| 21:42.22 | Fisker | If you ignore this mail your account can and will be closed permanently. |
| 21:42.49 | cralor | lol |
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| 21:43.23 | Kaw_ | heya |
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| 21:46.39 | frontendloader | cralor: doing the extractor trick is pretty essential in any "correct" zerg opener, since you never want to have 3 larva up at any time during your opening |
| 21:46.55 | frontendloader | because that means your hatchery isn't producing more larva |
| 21:47.46 | Kraps | Fisker: you just won a new car! if you dont take it we'll kill you |
| 21:48.17 | cralor | kk |
| 21:48.43 | Fisker | holy crap |
| 22:01.17 | foxlit | frontendloader: "essential" is debatable. |
| 22:01.54 | Cide | it's actually not essential in any sense of the word |
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| 22:02.21 | Cide | tests have shown that you get the same drone count and same mineral count roughly 15 minutes into the game when using and not using the extractor trick |
| 22:02.46 | Cide | so what you gain is negligible and just makes your minerals%5 == 4 for the rest of the game |
| 22:02.51 | Cide | which essentially wastes 4 minerals |
| 22:03.29 | Cide | or at least until you get a gold expand |
| 22:03.29 | foxlit | You waste more by cancelling, tbh |
| 22:03.42 | Cide | that too, but even if you do it perfectly |
| 22:03.46 | Cide | it's only a few minerals |
| 22:03.58 | foxlit | It doesn't really depend on when? |
| 22:04.08 | Cide | haven't researched it but yeah, it is |
| 22:04.16 | Cide | afaik anyway |
| 22:04.36 | Cide | you sit at 3 larva up when you get early hatch or regular pool anyway (~14-ish) |
| 22:05.13 | Cide | so the extractor trick isn't essential at all |
| 22:05.22 | Cide | I would almost call it detrimental but that's not quite the word |
| 22:05.58 | foxlit | Apparently cooperative matches count as League matches for achievement purposes. |
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| 22:12.33 | Kraps | lol at military threads |
| 22:14.40 | Kaw_ | heya guys, i was wondering if its possible to make party frames, which will then hide when entering raid/bg mode |
| 22:14.44 | Kaw_ | and bg frames will appear |
| 22:15.00 | Kaw_ | if its possible could i please get a suggestion on how to do this |
| 22:17.15 | Cide | yes it is, use the group and raid headers |
| 22:17.23 | Cide | see pretty much any unitframe addon for examples |
| 22:17.31 | Cide | or check out the wowprogramming.com book |
| 22:19.06 | Kaw_ | what if i already have the raid frames built... how would i make them appear only at 6+ people? |
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| 22:28.51 | Iriel | Cide: I saw that trick with the extractor in a strategy guide somewhere, it seems (a) excessive and (b) an exploit of unintended game mechanics. Nice to hear it has little real impact. |
| 22:30.27 | foxlit | (b) is certainly false :) |
| 22:30.28 | Cide | it works by intention |
| 22:30.37 | Cide | but yes, it's not really useful |
| 22:30.53 | Cide | it was a strategy employed in sc1 also |
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| 22:31.36 | Iriel | I guess maybe I phrased b badly -- is it explicitly supported, or just too difficult to prevent? |
| 22:32.02 | foxlit | Both. |
| 22:32.21 | Cide | I think only the first actually |
| 22:32.31 | foxlit | They could fix it by making morphing drones count against your supply |
| 22:32.42 | Cide | I think it was by accident in sc1 but they kept it in by design in sc2 |
| 22:33.12 | Cide | there are some useful ways to use it however; it's employed by a few strategies to get another unit out (usually a queen) at the 18 supply cap when you've only got 2 overlords |
| 22:38.23 | Kraps | people, you dont need to put your user number in your post, we can see it in the dropdown... |
| 22:38.28 | frontendloader | its useful in 7 pooling too |
| 22:38.36 | frontendloader | to get a 3rd set of zerglings out |
| 22:38.52 | frontendloader | but really, starcraft THRIVES off of silly shit like that |
| 22:40.31 | frontendloader | creative use of game mechanics is a huge part of brood war, and certainly will be in sc2 once more things get figured out |
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| 22:54.50 | Cide | lua> #("0000,0000,")*4 |
| 22:54.51 | lua_bot | Cide: 40 |
| 22:56.43 | Guardix | anyone who is well in to git? |
| 22:56.59 | Kraps | like one of the players says "best nuke ever" http://www.megaupload.com/?d=XIHTEYM2 |
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| 23:16.37 | ReAn | hey, how do i disable wow's internal frame layout remembering thingy |
| 23:17.50 | Cide | the real question is why should you? |
| 23:18.07 | cogwheel | ~lart cide |
| 23:18.07 | purl | moos at cide |
| 23:18.16 | ReAn | not entirely |
| 23:18.16 | Cide | it's not a stupid question |
| 23:18.18 | ReAn | but for my mod |
| 23:18.18 | Cide | cogwheel, |
| 23:18.51 | cogwheel | ~api setuserplaced |
| 23:18.52 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_setuserplaced |
| 23:18.59 | ReAn | thankyou |
| 23:19.00 | cogwheel | err |
| 23:19.04 | cogwheel | !api setuserplaced |
| 23:19.04 | lua_bot | Frame:SetUserPlaced: Flags the frame for automatic saving and restoration of position and dimensions (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Frame/SetUserPlaced) |
| 23:19.07 | Cide | I totally didn't get that he wanted that |
| 23:20.28 | cogwheel | also playing on more than one computer is a reason to disable it in general as a user |
| 23:21.17 | cogwheel | assuming he was talking about server-side storage |
| 23:31.06 | foxlit | http://science.slashdot.org/story/10/08/08/226227/Claimed-Proof-That-P--NP << moo? |
| 23:33.15 | *** part/#wowuidev WobWork (~Wobwork@234.128.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) |
| 23:33.51 | Cide | In order to apply this analysis to the space of solutions of random constraint satisfaction problems, we utilize and expand upon ideas from several fields spanning logic, statistics, graphical models, random ensembles, and statistical physics. |
| 23:33.52 | Cide | awesome. |
| 23:35.31 | Cide | awesome if it's true in any case |
| 23:39.58 | Kraps | meh i dont get it |
| 23:40.09 | Dashkal | cogwheel: confirm that's you? |
| 23:40.13 | cogwheel | yep |
| 23:40.29 | Dashkal | damn, no permission |
| 23:40.32 | cogwheel | rouedentée is french for cogwheel |
| 23:40.34 | cogwheel | :) |
| 23:40.49 | cogwheel | aww :( |
| 23:41.04 | Dashkal | Esamynn: Might wanna just give all rankgs ginvite :P |
| 23:41.10 | Esamynn | can't |
| 23:41.15 | Esamynn | i'm online if you need an invite |
| 23:41.30 | Dashkal | The permissions interface is still WIP then? |
| 23:42.33 | Esamynn | doesn't save :( |
| 23:42.44 | Dashkal | Fair enough |
| 23:42.51 | Dashkal | mmm, work in progress |
| 23:42.59 | Esamynn | also, the demote on logout bug is still there, in a certain form |
| 23:43.15 | Kraps | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/374938877#3 |
| 23:50.16 | foxlit | "No StarCraft II license found" |
| 23:50.20 | foxlit | curse you, regional forums |
| 23:58.37 | Shirik | wtf http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrator_intervention_against_vandalism&diff=prev&oldid=377900169 |
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