| 00:01.44 | foxlit | What have they done to the ground on Twilight Fortress? |
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| 00:06.46 | Gnarfoz | oh Apache, why must you be so broken |
| 00:07.09 | Gnarfoz | http://www.google.com/search?q=suexec+mod_userdir < this cannot be an uncommon configuration, yet it is broken out of the box :F |
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| 00:11.08 | foxlit | suexec? That seems uncommon |
| 00:12.35 | Gnarfoz | suexec uncommon? oO |
| 00:13.05 | Gnarfoz | everyone site gets to access each other's files doesn't sound common |
| 00:13.12 | Gnarfoz | s/one// |
| 00:13.50 | foxlit | Dunno, I was under the impression that most shared hosting was PHP not built as a CGI module |
| 00:14.16 | Gnarfoz | what instead? mod_suphp? that is slow as molasses, sadly |
| 00:14.39 | foxlit | Nah, PHP's internal "thou shalt not do stuff" restrictions |
| 00:14.45 | Gnarfoz | probably fcgid, which is what I'm trying to set up, too, and I can get it to work... if I sacrifice userdirs |
| 00:16.27 | Gnarfoz | also, the problem with everything having to have the same owner extends to FTP and SSH, too =] |
| 00:18.15 | foxlit | You don't necessarily need things to have the same owner to make it work. |
| 00:18.51 | Gnarfoz | yeah, you could put the webserver and all users in the same group and make it even worse |
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| 00:53.23 | kd3 | har |
| 00:53.24 | kd3 | www.wowwiki.com/The_Condensation_of_Electra-Atrocity |
| 00:53.30 | kd3 | (just found this in hyjal) |
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| 00:59.40 | Iriel | I like the handling instructions |
| 01:01.31 | Adys | instructs Iriel to handle himself |
| 01:25.49 | Arrowmaster | Gnarfoz: no really every shared host out there does let the other sites on the host access each other |
| 01:26.18 | Arrowmaster | which is why you dont make things group or world writable |
| 01:26.48 | Arrowmaster | unless you need the site to be able to write to the files, in which case you should design it so other people cant break it |
| 01:28.10 | Arrowmaster | this is why you dont use shared hosts |
| 01:32.02 | Cide | hi |
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| 01:33.24 | kd3 | ~ping |
| 01:33.25 | purl | ~pong |
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| 01:34.55 | Dagmar | Well, I'd say it's the reason you take extra measures when you use a shared host |
| 01:36.27 | Shirik | pop quiz for the Lua geniuses |
| 01:36.38 | Shirik | can anyone think of a case where a ~= b is not the same as not(a ~= b) |
| 01:37.09 | Cide | you mean not(a == b)? |
| 01:37.34 | Shirik | yeah |
| 01:37.35 | Shirik | sorry |
| 01:37.55 | Dagmar | all the time? |
| 01:37.59 | Cide | lua> a, b = 0/0, 0/0, print(a ~= b, not(a==b)) |
| 01:37.59 | lua_bot | Cide: false, false |
| 01:38.00 | Arrowmaster | yes but you wont like them |
| 01:38.04 | Cide | lua> a, b = 0/0, 1, print(a ~= b, not(a==b)) |
| 01:38.04 | lua_bot | Cide: false, false |
| 01:38.14 | Shirik | I want the most esoteric case, Arrowmaster |
| 01:38.19 | Shirik | well |
| 01:38.19 | Cide | metamethod |
| 01:38.22 | Cide | !! |
| 01:38.26 | Shirik | not ones like "__eq changes each time you call it" |
| 01:38.45 | Shirik | how would you employ a metamethod Cide? |
| 01:39.16 | Dagmar | Am I missing something obvious? |
| 01:40.06 | Iriel | Shirik: Some NaN cases? |
| 01:40.12 | Cide | I tried them above |
| 01:40.16 | Cide | Shirik, that's the only way I can think of |
| 01:40.23 | Shirik | what is the only way? |
| 01:40.24 | Iriel | Doesn't it depend on how your FPU is configured? |
| 01:40.31 | Cide | changing of __eq |
| 01:40.42 | Cide | since a ~= b <=> not(a == b) |
| 01:40.51 | Cide | not only in logic terms but in lua terms |
| 01:40.58 | Cide | " There are no separate metamethods for the other three relational operators, as Lua translates a ~= b to not (a == b), a > b to b < a, and a >= b to b <= a." |
| 01:41.08 | Shirik | oh |
| 01:41.11 | Shirik | well then |
| 01:41.15 | Dagmar | Doesn't the not invert it? |
| 01:41.24 | Shirik | yes? |
| 01:41.36 | Cide | they are perfectly equivalent that is |
| 01:42.01 | Dagmar | So if a ~= b is false, wouldn't not(false) wind up being true all the time? |
| 01:42.14 | Cide | so you need the __eq to return different results for two equivalent comparisons to accomplish what you want |
| 01:42.28 | Shirik | yeah I wasn't counting that |
| 01:42.30 | Shirik | ok |
| 01:42.40 | Arrowmaster | i could have sworn there was something involving NaN but i cant find it |
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| 01:42.48 | Cide | NaN != NaN |
| 01:42.57 | Cide | lua> 0/0 == 0/0 |
| 01:42.57 | lua_bot | Cide: false |
| 01:43.03 | Cide | but that doesn't help in this case |
| 01:43.11 | Dagmar | Not sure if that sort of thing would even be cause for it to slow down, since it so readily applies to strings and numbers alikle |
| 01:43.18 | Cide | lua> 0/0 ~= 0/0 |
| 01:43.19 | lua_bot | Cide: true |
| 01:43.21 | Cide | because of that |
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| 01:44.34 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: Now that Cide has quoted that, any case where not (a == b) ~= ( a ~= b ) would be a defect |
| 01:45.00 | Iriel | I had a NaN induced bug based on just that issue |
| 01:45.04 | Iriel | I just dont remember where |
| 01:45.17 | Arrowmaster | maybe it was when you could have -NaN |
| 01:45.41 | Amarande | lua> 5/0 |
| 01:45.41 | lua_bot | Amarande: inf |
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| 01:45.52 | Amarande | ahh, I see Lua regards division by zero as infinity |
| 01:46.03 | Amarande | actually, that left me with a really weird impression about numbers. |
| 01:46.13 | Amarande | see, correspondingly n/infinity = 0, for all n |
| 01:46.14 | Shirik | haha |
| 01:46.21 | foxlit | You'd have to go a long way to break *equality* |
| 01:46.23 | Shirik | I have something that is being called the "Wikipedia Patriot Act" now |
| 01:46.25 | Amarande | therefore, does not 0 * infinity = *the entire gamut of all real numbers*? |
| 01:46.35 | Shirik | "Administrators are authorized to use any and all means at their disposal to ensure that every Wikipedia article is in full compliance with the letter and spirit of the biographies of living persons policy. Administrators may use the page protection and deletion tools as they believe to be reasonably necessary to effect compliance." |
| 01:46.45 | Cide | Amarande, don't try and learn stuff about math from a programming languages |
| 01:46.46 | foxlit | Amarande: madness |
| 01:46.52 | Cide | instead, pick up a book of calculus |
| 01:46.59 | Shirik | no |
| 01:47.03 | Shirik | diff EQ |
| 01:47.04 | Dagmar | needs more explicit mention of waterboarding |
| 01:47.05 | Amarande | Shirik: lemme guess, wikipedia has recently been or is currently in the process of being sued for slander |
| 01:47.10 | Cide | to learn about 0 * infinity? I don't think so |
| 01:47.18 | Shirik | Amarande: I have no idea where it came from |
| 01:47.26 | Arrowmaster | lua> math.huge * 0 |
| 01:47.26 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: nan |
| 01:47.48 | Amarande | heh, that must be fun if there's any fictional characters of note that are based too strongly on a living person |
| 01:48.03 | Cide | such as myself |
| 01:48.08 | Cide | too bad I'm not a wikipedia article |
| 01:48.32 | Amarande | yay the sox are slaughtering the yankees |
| 01:48.51 | Amarande | LET'S GO RED SOX |
| 01:49.08 | Dagmar | From the lua manual: "a ~= b is equivalent to not (a == b)." |
| 01:49.31 | Dagmar | It would have to be a defect |
| 01:49.46 | Dagmar | ...unless there's ome form of trinary boolean hiding in lua |
| 01:49.56 | Shirik | there was at one point |
| 01:49.56 | Dagmar | True/false/maybeso |
| 01:50.11 | Shirik | you could create a "maybe" value |
| 01:50.17 | Dagmar | hisses |
| 01:50.30 | Shirik | because the VM didn't check what it was reading in |
| 01:50.40 | Shirik | and true was == 1 internally, and false was == 0 |
| 01:50.45 | Shirik | but the bytecode could have a 2 in it |
| 01:50.53 | Shirik | they fixed it so it's now 0 and != 0 |
| 01:51.09 | theorbtwo | Sounds like a fun thing to do. |
| 01:51.30 | Iriel | C++ can do that too, or at least could, if you didn't initialize a bool |
| 01:51.48 | Dagmar | Use of uninitialized variables is it's own "reward". |
| 01:51.52 | theorbtwo | Iriel: Implementation-dependent. |
| 01:51.58 | Shirik | use of uninitialized variables is UB :) |
| 01:52.05 | Dagmar | UB? |
| 01:52.07 | Iriel | theorbtwo: thus 'can do that' not 'does do that' 8-) |
| 01:52.16 | Shirik | undefined behavior |
| 01:52.26 | Dagmar | ah okay |
| 01:52.33 | theorbtwo | Perl has internal constants it returns for true and false. You can turn off the readonly bit on them and change them. |
| 01:52.35 | Shirik | anyway... maybe = loadstring(string.dump(function() return ({[true]=true})[true] end):gsub('\1\1','\1\2')) |
| 01:52.39 | Shirik | whoops |
| 01:52.41 | Shirik | anyway... maybe = loadstring(string.dump(function() return ({[true]=true})[true] end):gsub('\1\1','\1\2'))() |
| 01:52.47 | Dagmar | theorbtwo: don't do that |
| 01:52.50 | theorbtwo | ...you can even change the true value to be false and the false value to be true. |
| 01:52.54 | Shirik | that would create a boolean value that is neither true nor false |
| 01:52.57 | Dagmar | ESPECIALLY don't do that |
| 01:53.22 | theorbtwo | Dagmar: I never would, except to solve a puzzle. |
| 01:53.30 | Dagmar | I made the senior programmer at a company I worked for almost flip his wig with that once |
| 01:53.42 | Shirik | I found out my team lead loves placement new |
| 01:53.50 | theorbtwo | That is, a puzzle to find creative ways to exploit strange corners in the language. |
| 01:53.56 | theorbtwo | Shirik: "placement new"? |
| 01:54.10 | Dagmar | THe logic inside a function was entirely ass-backwards, so in a fit of perversity I just redefined true and false at the start of the stanze |
| 01:54.15 | Dagmar | Less typing. |
| 01:54.27 | Shirik | theorbtwo: It's like "new" but instead of allocating memory, you tell it where to go |
| 01:54.44 | Dagmar | First I heard of his reaction was a sort of strangled-sounding scream of horror |
| 01:54.52 | Dagmar | ...then footsteps, and an ominous knock at my door. |
| 01:56.01 | theorbtwo | Dagmar: Wait, you pulled that trick *in production code*? |
| 01:56.04 | Dagmar | Didn't really placate him that it was locally scoped. Not even a bit |
| 01:56.08 | Dagmar | theorbtwo: Yes. |
| 01:56.33 | Dagmar | Hey it was thirty lines of mess I didn't wanna edit just that second |
| 01:56.41 | DWSR | Ok. |
| 01:56.41 | theorbtwo | Dynamicly scoped, you mean. It wouldn't placeate me, either, since that means it leaks into any functions you call. |
| 01:56.48 | DWSR | How the FUCK do I get the new Cataclysm beta client? |
| 01:56.57 | DWSR | I swear to god I'm missing something. |
| 01:57.00 | DWSR | I keep getting the old client. |
| 01:57.02 | Thunder_Child | you download it |
| 01:57.06 | Thunder_Child | no you arent |
| 01:57.07 | Dagmar | theorbtwo: Only affected that function, which wasn't going to be calling anything else |
| 01:57.11 | Thunder_Child | you get a 600 meg dl |
| 01:57.14 | Thunder_Child | then the new client |
| 01:57.27 | Thunder_Child | DWSR: look at how much it is downloading for |
| 01:57.34 | Thunder_Child | then it does the rest |
| 01:57.45 | kd3 | valid builds for the "new" client are 12635 and 12694 |
| 01:57.52 | kd3 | if you don't see either of those, you're doing it wrong |
| 01:58.02 | DWSR | Thanks kd3. |
| 01:58.04 | Dagmar | theorbtwo: You should have heard the noise he made when I shortened the value swap to one line. Heheh |
| 01:59.01 | DWSR | Does the new installer look exactly the same as the old one? |
| 01:59.11 | theorbtwo | ($a, $b) = ($b, $a), you mean? |
| 01:59.23 | Dagmar | Acts like the initial PTR download, doesn't it? |
| 01:59.28 | Dagmar | Just... bigger |
| 01:59.37 | Jamash | yeah |
| 01:59.43 | Jamash | It's a three-stage download |
| 02:00.07 | Dagmar | theorbtwo: I couldn't tell you what specifically I did, and I'm pretty sure perl would blow a raspberry on it _now_ but it wasn't even something as simple as that that I did |
| 02:00.16 | Jamash | first you get the new WOW_Cataclysm_Beta_enUS.exe which is 2,688,362 bytes |
| 02:00.18 | DWSR | I just expected it to look different. |
| 02:00.24 | Dagmar | Some of the new warnings are irksome. Apparently defined(%hash) has been deprecated. :/ |
| 02:00.29 | DWSR | It doesn't look any different than the old beta client. |
| 02:00.37 | DWSR | So I was all perplexed. |
| 02:00.41 | Jamash | THAT downloads Cataclysm-Beta-Installer-4.0.0.12635-enUS |
| 02:01.01 | Jamash | then *after* you run that, you get the actual new dynamic launcher |
| 02:01.14 | Jamash | DWSR: Yes, I had the same problem at first |
| 02:01.23 | DWSR | It's installing a bunch of shit right now. |
| 02:01.24 | theorbtwo | Dagmar: Yes, it has been. Use %hash instead. |
| 02:01.36 | DWSR | Does the progress bar turn different colours for the different data it's downloading? |
| 02:01.47 | Jamash | It first steals all ur dataz from the live game |
| 02:01.47 | DWSR | the required, base, and extended data? |
| 02:01.48 | kd3 | during the new launcher, yes |
| 02:01.56 | DWSR | Jamash: orly? |
| 02:01.59 | kd3 | not for the ~650MB install |
| 02:02.07 | Jamash | then, it loads the on-demand-downloaderator which has the colored progress bar |
| 02:02.12 | DWSR | It actually does something really smart and goes "look, here's 95% of the shit you'd be downloading ANYWAY" |
| 02:02.24 | Jamash | well, depends on your definition of "smart" |
| 02:02.36 | Shirik | smart = Shirik |
| 02:02.42 | DWSR | No. |
| 02:02.50 | Jamash | it grabs a bunch of stuff from the live game client and then downloads ~16G of *uncompressed new data* |
| 02:02.53 | Shirik | Specification 13953: Smartitude |
| 02:02.55 | foxlit | Now that's the equality operator you were looking for. |
| 02:03.01 | DWSR | foxlit: >.< |
| 02:03.04 | kd3 | s/uncompressed/6 copies of locale data/ |
| 02:03.06 | DWSR | Jamash: Wait, WAT? |
| 02:03.19 | Jamash | DWSR: welcome to our hell |
| 02:03.33 | DWSR | So it picks up all of data from live and THEN downloads 16 more GB? |
| 02:03.36 | DWSR | What the fuck? |
| 02:03.36 | kd3 | looks at deDE, enGB, enUS, esES, esMX, frFR, koKR folders, all full of data |
| 02:03.37 | kd3 | yes |
| 02:03.37 | Jamash | yes |
| 02:03.45 | Shirik | A human shall be classified as "smart" if and only if he or she can defeat Shirik at chess, either of the tournament or chinese variety |
| 02:03.48 | Dagmar | Now, that would be much more fun if it just downloaded one copy of the localized data and then passed it through translation party six times |
| 02:03.58 | DWSR | Dagmar: rofl |
| 02:04.06 | Jamash | kd3: that amounts to only about 3.some GB |
| 02:04.22 | DWSR | Why does it not just download the locale(s) that you have on live? |
| 02:04.32 | Shirik | y not |
| 02:04.33 | Jamash | because that would be too easy |
| 02:04.47 | DWSR | And save my ratios. |
| 02:04.51 | kd3 | and we can't have easy in beta |
| 02:04.53 | Jamash | Blizzard always has to do things the hard way when it comes to the downloader |
| 02:04.57 | DWSR | Err, bandwidth cap. |
| 02:05.14 | DWSR | Jamash: I actually have an RSS feed for all the new patches in my torrent client. |
| 02:05.15 | Dagmar | euw bandwidth caps |
| 02:05.20 | DWSR | The fucking Blizzard downloader is so horrible. |
| 02:05.23 | DWSR | Dagmar: Yeah, I know. x.x |
| 02:05.26 | Jamash | DWSR: and now you can't use it, can you? |
| 02:05.40 | Jamash | Blizzard's got their eye on you, mate. |
| 02:05.41 | Dagmar | At least Comcast's cap is freaking monstrous |
| 02:05.46 | DWSR | Jamash: No, I still can. New downloader uses torrent. |
| 02:05.49 | Jamash | really? |
| 02:05.52 | DWSR | Dagmar: Mine's only 60GB. |
| 02:05.53 | DWSR | Jamash: Yes. |
| 02:06.00 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: no its not, i would go over it every month if i was on comcast |
| 02:06.04 | Dagmar | "If you need more than 8Gb of porn a night, it's time to get another hobby." |
| 02:06.19 | theorbtwo | Sounds like the solution is to start the game running as soon as possible, before it has a chance to download everything under the sun. |
| 02:06.20 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Seriously? You push over 250Gb a month? |
| 02:06.36 | Arrowmaster | i push 100GB a month on nothing but upload |
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| 02:06.51 | Dagmar | THe highest I've hit was 180Gb and that was mainly due to the PS3 demos |
| 02:06.53 | Arrowmaster | on a fucking 0.5mbit upload |
| 02:07.24 | DWSR | theorbtwo: Nah, it'll keep downloading the stuff. |
| 02:07.33 | Arrowmaster | im already at 44.28GB for the month |
| 02:07.44 | Dagmar | Heck I left the slackware DVDs seeding all last month and only hit 140Gb |
| 02:08.05 | DWSR | fail connection. |
| 02:08.09 | DWSR | I can do 140GB in like 3 days. |
| 02:08.13 | Jamash | OK, that raises a question I've been wondering about: Is the 16GB because it's downloading uncompressed data or what? |
| 02:08.29 | Dagmar | Meh. Part of it was that I throttled it |
| 02:08.37 | DWSR | Jamash: Probably a /ton/ of developer/debugging related stuff in there. |
| 02:08.45 | Arrowmaster | between 2009-09 and 2010-07 there was only one month i did not break 250GB, i had 245.21 |
| 02:09.39 | Arrowmaster | ive gone as high as 444.45GB |
| 02:09.47 | Dagmar | DWSR: ALso keep in mind how many Slackware users are left |
| 02:10.08 | DWSR | Dagmar: 10? |
| 02:10.17 | Dagmar | Maybe add two more zeros |
| 02:10.24 | DWSR | 0.010 |
| 02:10.29 | Dagmar | ahem |
| 02:10.37 | DWSR | Sorry. |
| 02:10.39 | DWSR | .0010 |
| 02:10.51 | DWSR | ;) |
| 02:11.16 | Dagmar | Some places need to be more reasonable |
| 02:11.28 | Arrowmaster | hmm ackis playing rdr multiplayer, wonder if hes in free roam |
| 02:11.31 | Dagmar | Apparently if I were to send a stack of 10 DVDs to au it would be cheaper to mail them |
| 02:11.53 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Quick.,.. to the help beacon! |
| 02:12.06 | DWSR | I read to the help bacon. |
| 02:12.07 | Arrowmaster | im just going to go gank him |
| 02:12.17 | Dagmar | dwsr: I would like it if it were a help bacon. |
| 02:12.26 | DWSR | No kidding. |
| 02:12.32 | kd3 | mmm. bacon |
| 02:12.35 | DWSR | QUICKLY, TO THE HELP BACON, NOM NOM NOM |
| 02:12.37 | kd3 | had bacon for dinner tonight |
| 02:12.55 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Almost a shame they don't allow lassos in free roam |
| 02:13.43 | Dagmar | They need to patch one of those coop missions |
| 02:13.55 | Dagmar | Half the time when we save the mexican lady she just kinda stands there |
| 02:15.31 | Dagmar | Glad to see they sorted the bluetooth stuff tho |
| 02:15.41 | Dagmar | I'm gonna have to see if that works properly in GTA now |
| 02:17.38 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: i found him |
| 02:17.44 | Arrowmaster | should i shoot him or knife him? |
| 02:17.48 | Dagmar | knife! |
| 02:17.56 | Dagmar | Just because the sniper knife is so humiliating |
| 02:18.10 | Dagmar | It's like teh damn pfaust from wolfenstien |
| 02:18.24 | Dagmar | Flies for an insane distance in a perfectly straight line |
| 02:19.22 | Arrowmaster | got him |
| 02:19.26 | Dagmar | w00t! |
| 02:19.42 | Arrowmaster | teabagging now |
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| 02:19.48 | Dagmar | hheh |
| 02:20.07 | Arrowmaster | damnit i need a new controller coord |
| 02:20.15 | Dagmar | Oh you're on xbox |
| 02:20.45 | Dagmar | Do they use the same horribly-out-of-place looking font on the beacons for xbox? |
| 02:21.34 | Dagmar | Some rather hideous modernized sans-serif thing is what they're using on the PS3 version |
| 02:23.00 | Arrowmaster | i think |
| 02:23.02 | Amarande | However, I'm not sure I will ever see a use of knives more interesting than Melisande with Phedre in ... dammit, was that Dart or Chosen. |
| 02:23.12 | Dagmar | No idea |
| 02:23.22 | Amarande | (You do know what I'm talking about though right Dagmar? :) |
| 02:23.33 | Dagmar | I just know that if you can throw a knife 80 yards in a straight line like that, you don't need guns. You can gib people with your fist. |
| 02:23.52 | DWSR | Chuck Norris can throw a kinfe over 9000 yards. |
| 02:23.54 | Amarande | and that reminds me of the berserker box from Doom. :D |
| 02:23.58 | Dagmar | Proably able to flick a beer bottle top through solid brick as well |
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| 02:30.41 | Amarande | now remember, let's go play Punch-a-Barrel! |
| 02:30.51 | Amarande | I punch the barrel once ... then I push you over the berserker box, and then you punch the barrel! |
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| 02:38.07 | Shirik | gahhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 02:38.11 | Shirik | stabs visual studio |
| 02:38.20 | DWSR | In soviet russia. |
| 02:38.21 | Shirik | project B has a dependency on project A |
| 02:38.32 | Shirik | if project A has no source files in it |
| 02:38.40 | Shirik | project B fails to link because it can't find project A's library |
| 02:38.55 | DWSR | And the universe explodes, right? |
| 02:39.03 | Shirik | remove the dependency and it works fine |
| 02:39.25 | Amarande | DWSR: that's news? the universe has been exploding for fifteen billion years |
| 02:39.40 | Shirik | especially since I got here |
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| 02:57.31 | Iriel | Shirik: Are you implying that you are repulsive to the entire universe? |
| 02:57.46 | Cide | sounds about right |
| 02:57.58 | Cide | in related news, swype is now available in swedish!! |
| 03:12.02 | Thunder_Child | Ackis: good choice with GSB |
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| 03:18.02 | Dagmar | Shirik: That is just wrong and evil |
| 03:18.25 | Thunder_Child | amazing, there seems to be no way to remove a game from your wishlist on steam |
| 03:18.38 | Dagmar | Linking in uncompiled and uninstalled headers or libs is evilevilevil |
| 03:18.46 | Dagmar | It will end in tears. |
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| 03:25.32 | Thunder_Child | http://www.joystiq.com/2010/08/06/duke-nukem-voice-actor-recorded-for-valves-defense-of-the-anci/ |
| 03:33.06 | Amarande | Iriel: actually, according to the Big Rip theory, ultimately every piece of matter is repulsive to the entire universe |
| 03:34.09 | Amarande | Sixty million years before the end, galaxies won't hold together anymore. Three months before the end, the solar system won't be bound gravitationally. In the final minutes stars and planets will rip apart ... and at the very end even atoms will too. |
| 03:50.02 | Dagmar | time != constant |
| 03:54.08 | Jamash | Thunder_Child: there's a link "remove" on the wish list page |
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| 03:57.24 | Jamash | speaking of Steam, Gratuitous Space Battles is available for 75% off, as is its DLC |
| 04:02.21 | PProvost | Gratuitous Space Battles? Any good? |
| 04:02.40 | Jamash | it's kind of peculiar as a game |
| 04:03.08 | Jamash | you build a space fleet using a point buy system and then click BATTLE and your fleet and the computer's fleet fight it out |
| 04:03.45 | Jamash | you can give some general AI directions in advance but nothing during the battle |
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| 04:04.18 | PProvost | LOL nice. |
| 04:04.21 | PProvost | And only $4.99 |
| 04:04.34 | Jamash | http://store.steampowered.com/sub/4785/ <--- $6.24 for the game and 3 DLC packs |
| 04:05.06 | eidolarr | hey guys my partner and I listed an addon yesterday on curse but forgot to do so on wowi, and it appears that someone else has listed it there already |
| 04:05.26 | Shadowed | eidolarr can you link the addon |
| 04:05.36 | eidolarr | on wowi or curse? |
| 04:05.45 | Shadowed | WoWI, although Curse would help too |
| 04:05.50 | eidolarr | it's legal according to our license but I'd like to be able to update to WoWI directly |
| 04:06.02 | eidolarr | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info17654-Dinger.html |
| 04:06.19 | eidolarr | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/dinger/ |
| 04:06.40 | Shadowed | who are you on WoWI, eidolarr? |
| 04:06.45 | eidolarr | I haven't even contacted the guy or anything, I was just wondering what the right thing to do is |
| 04:06.49 | eidolarr | also eidolarr |
| 04:06.52 | Jamash | Copyright (c) <year> <copyright holders> <----------- lol |
| 04:06.59 | Shadowed | gimmie a minute will sort it out |
| 04:07.09 | eidolarr | Jamash: yeah looking at that now, appears to have not been auto filled out lol |
| 04:07.16 | Shadowed | (I assumehe's not Kasaharas either, right eidolarr? |
| 04:07.17 | Thunder_Child | Jamash: i got it, though it took a while. the wishlist is part of the community not the store, and logging in to the store != loging into the community |
| 04:07.26 | Jamash | ah |
| 04:07.36 | Jamash | yeah I've never understood why they have two separate logins |
| 04:07.41 | eidolarr | he is not |
| 04:08.03 | Shadowed | k |
| 04:10.35 | Shadowed | Go ahead and upload it when you want eidolarr |
| 04:12.10 | eidolarr | ok, thanks |
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| 04:14.04 | eidolarr | oh man, do you think it was a guy trying to get a beta key? |
| 04:14.27 | Shadowed | Probably, what we're sorting out right now |
| 04:15.00 | eidolarr | does that happen a lot? |
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| 04:15.21 | Shadowed | Unfortunately |
| 04:17.04 | EvilPete | I can imagine.. |
| 04:18.12 | EvilPete | btw; Is wowhead seriously slow for other folks as well? |
| 04:18.26 | eidolarr | he even took his own screenshot! |
| 04:18.26 | eidolarr | ahahaha |
| 04:18.58 | EvilPete | Shadowed: also, Thank You for your unit frames! |
| 04:19.02 | Shadowed | thanks |
| 04:23.16 | Jamash | EvilPete: From #wowhead: "We are working on the server issues, hang on :)" |
| 04:27.04 | eidolarr | why did curse not auto fill ouit the license? is there something i'm supposed to do? |
| 04:27.17 | Adys | Jamash: maybe their smiley factory overloaded |
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| 04:34.49 | eidolarr | Shadowed: he posted his toon's name in the image haha http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Wildhammer&cn=Huntywar |
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| 04:40.42 | eidolarr | can you have multiple authors on wowinterface? |
| 04:40.53 | eidolarr | on one project |
| 04:41.01 | eidolarr | dare i say, a collaboration |
| 04:41.28 | Yssaril | i belive so |
| 04:41.43 | eidolarr | i'm not seeing where to do that |
| 04:47.39 | Yssaril | eidolarr: when you go to add a newfile under additional options there is a "Manage Team" button |
| 04:48.21 | Yssaril | on the Edit Files page for the addon to be exact |
| 04:49.07 | eidolarr | gotcha |
| 04:49.10 | eidolarr | thanks man |
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| 05:26.13 | Wobin | hm |
| 05:26.21 | Wobin | for anyone that does tabletop... http://www.dizzydragon.net/adventuregenerator/gen |
| 05:26.34 | Wobin | (or pen&paper) |
| 05:27.34 | Trela | Cool. :O |
| 05:30.23 | batrick | neato |
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| 05:34.49 | Antiarc | http://www.lazarusworld.com/WoW/catabeta/adrine.jpg |
| 05:34.51 | Antiarc | Wooo |
| 05:35.00 | Antiarc | I don't know if it's referential or not but I'm gonna pretend it is |
| 05:37.55 | Trela | I do not get it. |
| 05:38.23 | Antiarc | Adrine is my character's name |
| 05:39.13 | Trela | Ah. :D |
| 05:42.15 | Amarande | Adrine ... I think that was once going to be the name of a noble House in one of my D&D worlds |
| 05:48.18 | Wobin | Antiarc: wouldn't it only really be referential if she was a TAUREN ROGUE? =) |
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| 05:54.37 | Amarande | hmm, what character names do I use |
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| 05:55.29 | Amarande | Amarelya, Amaagnar, Amalanya, Mornienya, Delissa, Vladoka, Selinios, Alvaerin, Sheriana, and Variandra, currently among the three servers I play on |
| 05:56.10 | Amarande | respectively: BE priest, orc hunter, undead warrior, BE mage, troll rogue, BE DK, tauren druid, BE lock, Draenei shaman, and Draenei mage |
| 05:57.19 | Trela | o.o |
| 05:57.38 | Amarande | what, did i pick the wrong races? :) |
| 05:57.55 | mikma | no, wrong game |
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| 06:06.18 | Shirik | ok |
| 06:06.26 | Shirik | recaptcha really needs to stop giving me greek words as my captcha |
| 06:06.28 | Shirik | that's really not cool |
| 06:09.14 | Amarande | wtf |
| 06:09.19 | Amarande | someone just told me to turn down my music |
| 06:09.22 | Amarande | I'm playing freaking ENYA |
| 06:09.33 | Amarande | lol |
| 06:09.44 | Amarande | who the heck blasts Enya? |
| 06:09.47 | Amarande | :P |
| 06:10.20 | Amarande | also, some itunes folks are really stingy ... |
| 06:10.26 | Amarande | comment: "Be careful. After wasting a dollar on ..." |
| 06:10.30 | Amarande | dude ... it's a DOLLAR |
| 06:10.33 | Amarande | it's not like it's a huge amount of money |
| 06:15.56 | nevcairiel | many wasted dollars are alot of wasted money |
| 06:25.50 | Adys | Shirik: l2keyboard |
| 06:25.52 | Adys | also old |
| 06:26.13 | Adys | Aug 06 10:06:11 <Adys> recaptcha: tails οÏμα |
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| 06:30.27 | Shirik | Amarande |
| 06:30.29 | Shirik | I would blast enya |
| 06:31.00 | Amarande | I love Enya, but it's not really blasting music. |
| 06:31.16 | Cide | then you lack bass |
| 06:31.24 | Shirik | hahahahahahahahaha |
| 06:31.25 | Shirik | omfg |
| 06:31.34 | Shirik | http://boards.4chan.org/b/res/261657227 NSFW but very worth it |
| 06:31.45 | Cide | isn't all nsfw worth it? |
| 06:32.14 | Shirik | they are a little mad at me |
| 06:32.33 | Cide | but you didn't win again |
| 06:32.59 | Cide | they're gonna rape your faggot photographs |
| 06:33.19 | Cide | well it didn't end in 33 |
| 06:33.29 | Cide | but funny nonetheless |
| 06:34.31 | Shirik | yeah |
| 06:34.35 | Shirik | but that they're calling me out |
| 06:34.38 | Shirik | means I win |
| 06:34.40 | Cide | yeah |
| 06:39.12 | nevcairiel | you can't win against 4chan, their determination will prevail |
| 06:40.16 | Shirik | yeah I guess eventually I have to go to sleep |
| 06:40.31 | Shirik | however |
| 06:40.34 | Shirik | my talk page is amusing http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Shirik&action=history |
| 06:40.42 | Shirik | it's got striken revisions all over the place |
| 06:46.31 | Shirik | how to know you will have no life, ever: |
| 06:46.49 | Shirik | You're an intern, and you're sending work emails at 11:45 PM with your boss on a friday |
| 06:46.58 | Shirik | and they want you on full time |
| 06:49.49 | Cide | that's bad dude |
| 06:49.53 | Cide | how to know you will have no life, ever: |
| 06:50.01 | Cide | you're up to 9am for no reason really |
| 06:52.30 | Grum | beats getting up at 11:00 |
| 06:53.47 | Shirik | this thing is scary as fuck |
| 06:53.52 | Shirik | http://us.akinator.com/ |
| 06:53.55 | Shirik | I haven't beaten it yet |
| 06:55.33 | Cide | I have |
| 06:56.16 | Grum | lol |
| 06:56.25 | Grum | i was thinking of Bolvar Fordragon |
| 06:56.35 | Grum | and he got it :( |
| 06:56.36 | Shirik | did it get it? |
| 06:56.37 | Shirik | wow |
| 06:56.50 | Grum | i fucked up 1 answer |
| 06:56.56 | Grum | so he got it 4 questions after the first guess |
| 06:57.29 | Grum | i didnt say he was human ... because it wasnt in a game context at that time :) |
| 06:57.53 | Grum | so he came with magni .. from IF :P |
| 06:58.08 | Shirik | fuck |
| 06:58.11 | Shirik | I already know he got it |
| 06:58.14 | Cide | do korialstrasz |
| 06:58.16 | Shirik | I was doing Trinity from the matrix |
| 06:58.19 | Cide | first name that popped up |
| 06:58.32 | Shirik | and he got to "Is your character in a movie and one of its sequels (e.g., the matrix...)" |
| 06:58.35 | Grum | its 'hard' just to do one |
| 06:58.42 | Shirik | "Is your character the main character's partner?" |
| 06:58.44 | Grum | you need to know quite some about the char |
| 06:59.08 | Cide | or just wikipedia it |
| 06:59.29 | Grum | i wonder what it would do if you'd go for 'your girlfriend' |
| 06:59.39 | Shirik | try it |
| 06:59.47 | Cide | it would get it |
| 07:00.00 | Cide | it also gets "your secret friend" or akinator himself or nobody or yourself |
| 07:00.20 | Grum | DAMMIT |
| 07:00.22 | Grum | it got it :P |
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| 07:00.46 | Grum | 13 questions |
| 07:01.34 | Wraithan | I remember after using auctioneer to buy a bunch of stuff for disenchanting and setting the reason to disenchant being able to mass mail those things to my disenchanter |
| 07:01.47 | Wraithan | Anyone know what I am talking about ? |
| 07:02.20 | Shirik | it got "your girlfriend"? |
| 07:03.04 | Cide | yes |
| 07:03.09 | Cide | it gets all the metastuff |
| 07:03.19 | Cide | pretty much |
| 07:03.19 | Shirik | hahahah |
| 07:03.26 | Shirik | "Has your character been in love with your mother?" |
| 07:03.33 | Shirik | I hope not |
| 07:03.53 | Shirik | .... wtf |
| 07:03.55 | Shirik | he already knows |
| 07:04.12 | Shirik | I'm doing my boss. He said "Do you work with your character?" "Does he have authority on you?" |
| 07:04.14 | Shirik | next question |
| 07:04.18 | Shirik | "Does he have long ears?" |
| 07:04.32 | Cide | so he's checking for the devil |
| 07:04.43 | Adys | Shirik |
| 07:04.46 | Adys | I'm so proud |
| 07:05.00 | Adys | I got five Mastermind shots over mumble |
| 07:05.06 | Adys | all four i guessed on the first or second try |
| 07:05.13 | Adys | all five* |
| 07:05.24 | Adys | four on first try, one on second |
| 07:05.54 | Shirik | mastermind shots over mumble? |
| 07:06.35 | Adys | mastermind over mumble |
| 07:06.44 | Adys | hard to explain. |
| 07:09.17 | Shirik | doing my world of warcraft character "did your character participate in the civil war?" |
| 07:11.24 | Shadowed | haha mastermind |
| 07:21.17 | nevcairiel | its funny how akinator comes up every few months again |
| 07:21.24 | nevcairiel | its really awesome, though |
| 07:22.03 | Adys | nevcairiel: ? |
| 07:22.08 | Shirik | I finally stumped him |
| 07:22.09 | Shirik | omg |
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| 07:23.38 | Yssaril | what stumped him? |
| 07:26.36 | Grum | seriously... |
| 07:26.50 | Grum | i just had a 26 minute fight at the STV arena with a 45k retadin |
| 07:27.03 | Shirik | wow |
| 07:27.08 | Shirik | it even got Dom Cobb |
| 07:27.10 | Shirik | I'm impressed |
| 07:27.15 | Shirik | they keep this thing really up to date |
| 07:27.23 | Shirik | I was sure I was going to stump him with that one |
| 07:27.33 | Grum | go for chanserv :P |
| 07:27.39 | Shirik | lol ok |
| 07:28.17 | nevcairiel | he lost |
| 07:28.24 | Shirik | Question #8: Am I too stupid to guess who your character is? |
| 07:28.27 | Grum | it ended on 'Cleverbot' |
| 07:28.42 | nevcairiel | i answered "has your character been to space" with yes, and it still gave me ellie from chuck |
| 07:28.47 | nevcairiel | but i wanted the doctor from sg-1 |
| 07:29.29 | Shirik | It guessed "something I don't know because it's not a character" |
| 07:29.38 | Adys | Im going through like every psych character |
| 07:29.38 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 07:29.45 | Adys | fuck this thing is smart |
| 07:29.46 | Adys | :( |
| 07:30.01 | nevcairiel | speaking of psych, i have this ep to watch |
| 07:30.43 | Shirik | added chanserv, it wasn't in at all |
| 07:30.56 | nevcairiel | but its not a character |
| 07:31.00 | Shirik | it is now! |
| 07:31.06 | Shirik | well |
| 07:31.09 | Shirik | I suggested it |
| 07:31.12 | Shirik | probably doesn't go straight in |
| 07:31.52 | Amarande | Grum, and I thought the 5-10 minute duel I had between my disc priest and a resto druid was long ... |
| 07:32.01 | Adys | nevcairiel: which one? |
| 07:32.04 | Grum | i got him down to 8k |
| 07:32.07 | nevcairiel | the latest |
| 07:32.07 | Grum | and then i went oom |
| 07:32.12 | nevcairiel | 5x4 |
| 07:32.12 | Adys | nevcairiel: its awesome |
| 07:32.14 | Grum | but he couldnt kill me at all |
| 07:32.37 | nevcairiel | I had a duel against a holy paladin once |
| 07:32.41 | nevcairiel | resto druid vs holy paladin |
| 07:32.43 | nevcairiel | was impossible |
| 07:32.47 | Grum | yeah |
| 07:33.03 | Grum | this was disc priest (33khp) vs retadin (43k hp) |
| 07:33.08 | Grum | no wait |
| 07:33.15 | Grum | mm he had a shield |
| 07:33.23 | Grum | but he couldnt have been a protadin |
| 07:33.36 | nevcairiel | probably some crazy pvp hybrid spec |
| 07:33.39 | Grum | i never saw the 'other stun' |
| 07:34.02 | Adys | finally |
| 07:34.09 | Adys | i got him wrong with lassiter |
| 07:34.59 | Yssaril | good night all |
| 07:36.56 | Amarande | I was a disc priest dueling a resto druid *eight levels below me* and it took me 5+ minutes to win. |
| 07:36.59 | Shirik | Proposed: Steve Jobs |
| 07:37.04 | Shirik | "Is your character linked with apples" |
| 07:37.08 | nevcairiel | hahah |
| 07:37.09 | Shirik | how do you answer this >< |
| 07:37.12 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 07:38.28 | Shirik | I bet it can't get Cairenn |
| 07:38.36 | Adys | Does your character rub shoulders with vampires? |
| 07:38.38 | Adys | what |
| 07:38.43 | Shirik | lol I got that too |
| 07:40.55 | Adys | uh |
| 07:41.09 | Adys | Question #2: Is your character an adult male |
| 07:41.29 | Adys | Question #10: Has your character ever run for presidency |
| 07:41.33 | Adys | Question #12: Does your character wear bras? |
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| 07:41.52 | Adys | (answered no to the first one) |
| 07:43.34 | Cide | some women don't! |
| 07:43.45 | Adys | Er |
| 07:43.46 | Adys | sorry |
| 07:43.50 | Adys | answered yes to the first one* |
| 07:44.03 | Adys | i'd like to know which male president wears bras in this database |
| 07:52.09 | Amarande | I don't know, maybe Taft did ... after all, he was a big fat guy who might have had moobs :P |
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| 07:57.11 | Adys | WHAT THE FUCK of an ad is this |
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| 07:57.35 | Adys | http://tinyurl.com/2v45qu8 |
| 08:00.49 | Amarande | Adys: I've encountered bad ads myself |
| 08:00.50 | Amarande | http://www.lunasanguine.com/images/fail-ad.jpg |
| 08:00.51 | Amarande | for instance |
| 08:00.55 | Amarande | can you see what's wrong with that one? :) |
| 08:01.53 | Adys | as in "you're screwed"? yes |
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| 08:02.52 | Amarande | Adys: indeed |
| 08:02.58 | Amarande | "best" implies that some choice or other is, well, *better* |
| 08:03.06 | Amarande | however, X loses no matter *where* he places the next one |
| 08:03.56 | Amarande | The only way it makes a difference, is if you're playing Fred Schuh's extended version of tic-tac-toe, in which case indeed the center is the best, since that's a single loss rather than a double loss. |
| 08:04.28 | Amarande | Fred Schuh wrote some interesting stuff in his Master Book of Mathematical Recreations |
| 08:04.40 | Amarande | for instance, a complete analysis of tic-tac-toe, in an extended way |
| 08:04.59 | Amarande | (his rule was that you keep going after someone gets a line ... if the other person can get a line, they lose single, otherwise double. and if someone gets TWO lines they win triple) |
| 08:06.19 | Amarande | more significantly though |
| 08:06.28 | Amarande | and I've not been able to google up ANYTHING more about it |
| 08:06.55 | Amarande | but apparently, there was a stone found in the step pyramid tomb in Saqqara, Egypt, dating back to Zoser and Imhotep, so around 3000 BC |
| 08:07.09 | Amarande | which apparently proves that positional numbers including zero were known about four thousand years before most folks think they were |
| 08:07.42 | Amarande | It shows a bunch of snakes made to look like numbers, and the only way it makes sense is for that to have been the case |
| 08:07.51 | Amarande | (basically, the numbers describe a (flawed) solution to a puzzle involving multiples of seven) |
| 08:08.09 | Amarande | I can't really draw it, but the puzzle basically goes like this ... |
| 08:08.30 | Amarande | draw a box. then below that box draw a row of three boxes centered under the first box. then a row of five, similarly centered, and a row of seven (ditto) |
| 08:08.45 | Amarande | below the first two and last two boxes of the row of seven, put boxes. |
| 08:08.48 | Adys | Jesus man |
| 08:09.00 | Adys | can't tab out off an "indeed" without coming back to a wall :P |
| 08:09.19 | Amarande | in these twenty boxes, you are to place two total of each digit, so that all vertical and horizontal numbers formed are divisible by 7, and the product of all such numbers is large as possible. |
| 08:09.39 | Adys | it's like leaving your camping place to take a piss and coming back to see it's now an airport |
| 08:09.45 | Amarande | heh |
| 08:10.31 | Amarande | If (as seems to be the case as it doesn't make sense otherwise) the Saqqara stone is indeed representative of this puzzle, it proves the knowledge of positional numbers existed about 3000 BC, not not until AD as most people think |
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| 08:10.51 | cbreak | it is not unimaginable that knowledge gets lost with the passing of time |
| 08:10.54 | Amarande | (given that we're talking numbers well above 200,000 x 10^33 for the final product here too ... you really can't calculate that out very well with nonpositional numbers) |
| 08:11.01 | cbreak | that's why backups are so important! |
| 08:11.17 | Amarande | it's also amazing that Imhotep actually managed the second highest product without a modern calculator, too |
| 08:11.28 | Amarande | His solution was 7 917 90146 5032258 63 84 |
| 08:11.57 | Amarande | There is only one higher, namely 7 938 52017 9041256 84 63 |
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| 08:12.25 | Amarande | (Schuh does not analyze this out, but I did so at one point for a paper for math class in high school) |
| 08:13.12 | Amarande | cbreak: also, I'm finding it very hard to get corroborating search results about that Saqqara stone |
| 08:13.28 | Amarande | the photograph in tMBoMR certainly doesn't look doctored, but I can't find it on Google |
| 08:13.55 | Amarande | and there's basically no mention at all of 0 being known this early on wiki either, save for me commenting on the talk page for 0 (number) about the stone, having read it in the book |
| 08:14.02 | cbreak | google's not yet all knowing, luckily :) |
| 08:14.13 | Amarande | I dunno, it would be nice if Google was all knowing |
| 08:14.24 | cbreak | likes privacy |
| 08:14.41 | Amarande | imagine if Google could tell you the best approach in all cases, and could even tell you who your best romantic match is by a simple Google search? :) |
| 08:14.56 | Amarande | 'course, we only have about 1500 more years to worry about that |
| 08:15.11 | Amarande | since in the year 3535, everything we think, do and say will be in daily pills |
| 08:16.02 | augustl | are there ever anyone online in the addon author guilds of the beta? |
| 08:19.29 | augustl | and where did /bug go? :S |
| 08:19.51 | augustl | betaing without it is kind of pontless.. |
| 08:24.55 | cbreak | not like bliz cares much about bug reports |
| 08:25.06 | cbreak | I reported a few in starcraft ages ago, still not fixed |
| 08:27.37 | zenzelezz | which bugs did you report? |
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| 08:33.11 | augustl | cbreak: you don't think they read them? |
| 08:33.13 | augustl | I think they do |
| 08:33.24 | augustl | why else would they invite loads of programmers to a beta :) |
| 08:34.23 | cbreak | in starcraft some bug with key bindings, a few graphical problems, framerate problems |
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| 09:21.06 | Fisker | anyone wanna join the horde ui guild? :( |
| 09:21.10 | Fisker | eu horde of course |
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| 09:36.50 | Fisker | omg |
| 09:37.01 | Fisker | so apparently 1/3 of the wow players get their accounts compromised |
| 09:38.23 | cbreak | I have a few in my guild who got compromised three or four times |
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| 09:42.09 | nevcairiel | those people deserve it |
| 09:42.29 | cbreak | yeah, but they skew the statistics |
| 09:43.09 | Fisker | Not nessecarily |
| 09:43.19 | nevcairiel | anyone know how a c++ std::iterator behaves when i modify the collection its running on, especially removing elements ? |
| 09:44.43 | cbreak | nevcairiel: depends on the container |
| 09:44.51 | nevcairiel | a vector |
| 09:44.53 | cbreak | std::vector invalidates some of them |
| 09:45.02 | cbreak | (those that come after I think) |
| 09:45.08 | cbreak | don't rely on any staying valid |
| 09:45.21 | cbreak | std::list is a linked list I think, so all but the one you remove stay valid |
| 09:45.25 | nevcairiel | i basically run through the list, and when i find a special element, i want to remove all that came before it |
| 09:45.36 | nevcairiel | actually i lied |
| 09:45.38 | nevcairiel | its a deque |
| 09:46.22 | cbreak | I think deque's use std::vector as normal backend? |
| 09:46.24 | cbreak | not sure |
| 09:47.37 | cbreak | don't rely on any of them staying valid |
| 09:48.01 | nevcairiel | meh this makes thigns more complicated |
| 09:48.28 | nevcairiel | i have to recreate the iterator afterwards and start over |
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| 09:49.41 | cbreak | you're iterating over a queue? :/ |
| 09:49.55 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2010/08/these_tubes_are_old_vintage_we.php |
| 09:51.34 | nevcairiel | Its just this stupid special case, i usually just queue packets, but in one special case i have to consolidate a bunch of packets into one before sending them out, so i iterate over it, look for the one with the boundary marker in it, and consolidate everything that came before |
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| 09:56.49 | Kalroth | you are! |
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| 09:57.06 | Fisker | thank you |
| 09:57.32 | Kalroth | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9180284/Update_HP_s_Mark_Hurd_resigns_amid_sexual_harassment_probe |
| 09:57.36 | Kalroth | argh |
| 09:57.51 | Kalroth | I hate the ctrl+b shortcut! |
| 09:58.09 | Fisker | i hate worldserver down |
| 09:58.23 | Adys | sexually harasses Kalroth |
| 09:58.27 | Adys | and then probes him |
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| 10:24.33 | Fisker | are you level 20 Torhal ? |
| 10:38.43 | Torhal | Fisker: Nevar. |
| 10:44.44 | ReAn | "new" beta client? |
| 10:44.54 | ReAn | they want me to delete my 16gb client |
| 10:44.58 | ReAn | and download a new one.... |
| 10:45.11 | haste | pretty much |
| 10:45.26 | haste | they want to test the "new" streaming client |
| 10:45.26 | ReAn | i think blizzard needs to go eat a dick, that's bullshit |
| 10:45.39 | haste | you don't have to download all 16G :P |
| 10:45.47 | ReAn | still |
| 10:45.49 | ReAn | bullshit |
| 10:45.57 | ReAn | that just ruined my night for sure |
| 10:46.05 | ReAn | *sigh* |
| 10:47.16 | roboe | look on the bright side, you have beta access |
| 10:47.21 | roboe | :( |
| 10:47.22 | ReAn | true |
| 10:47.33 | roboe | sends hate letters to Fusker |
| 10:47.38 | ReAn | still, im pissed when companies throw bandwidth around like it doesn't matter |
| 10:48.13 | ReAn | even if it's only 5gb |
| 10:48.17 | ReAn | that's another 5gb |
| 10:48.25 | ReAn | when i already had 99% of it |
| 10:49.09 | ReAn | not to mention blizzard's servers/system achieve piss poor speeds |
| 10:49.24 | ReAn | only using about 5-10% of my throughput, ever... |
| 10:49.25 | Gnarfoz | bandwidth doesn't matter |
| 10:49.28 | Gnarfoz | stop whining |
| 10:49.33 | Gnarfoz | thanks |
| 10:49.46 | nevcairiel | Like that blue poster said |
| 10:50.04 | nevcairiel | if your bandwidth cant afford to test the new streaming client in the beta, well, just dont participate |
| 10:50.22 | nevcairiel | stop the damn entitlement |
| 10:50.40 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: IT Crowd is already over again :( |
| 10:50.45 | nevcairiel | wut? |
| 10:50.47 | Gnarfoz | 6 episode seasons are way too short |
| 10:50.54 | nevcairiel | seriously |
| 10:51.03 | haste | what? |
| 10:51.11 | haste | was hoping for at least 10. |
| 10:52.48 | nevcairiel | anyway i should put on some pants and buy some food |
| 10:55.20 | haste | I'm pondering putting on some pants and making food |
| 10:55.52 | Fisker | old haste |
| 10:55.57 | Fisker | it's always been like that |
| 10:57.46 | amro | when you renew a show for a fourth season, you tend to trust them with more than just 6 episodes |
| 10:58.00 | amro | especially 20min episodes |
| 10:59.24 | haste | fourth season felt like the best one so far as well |
| 11:00.15 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 11:00.17 | Fisker | not so hey amro |
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| 11:13.03 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/diesel_engine.jpg |
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| 11:25.15 | augustl | mikma: I get it |
| 11:25.20 | augustl | it's funny! |
| 11:37.53 | Fisker | http://twitter.com/JSJakaDukeNukem/status/20491803584 <-always bet on duke |
| 11:38.00 | Fisker | Guess we know it's dota now :( |
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| 11:43.01 | olafski | <nevcairiel> stop the damn entitlement <-- word :) |
| 11:45.05 | amro | nevcairiel: perhaps you should consider that it may be an issue for people when it goes live as well |
| 11:45.15 | amro | the whole point of beta is to get complaints |
| 11:45.18 | amro | complaining about complaints = fail |
| 11:45.28 | ReAn | lol |
| 11:47.24 | amro | blizzard is the one getting free testing, perhaps they're the ones who need to stop the entitlement |
| 11:47.56 | Arrowmaster | maybe you noticed but you actually downloaded a previous build first and then it updated using the new launcher |
| 11:48.07 | Arrowmaster | maybe when it goes live they wont have it redownload anything |
| 11:48.32 | amro | I'm not on beta, I just hate it when people act like incovenience during beta is fine just because it's beta |
| 11:48.42 | Arrowmaster | im not on the beta either |
| 11:49.01 | amro | point is, it's a valid complaint, blizzard knows it, end of story |
| 11:49.16 | Wimpeh` | Time to watch "The A-Team". Wonder if it's any good. |
| 11:49.20 | amro | at least now blizzard are more aware of potential bandwidth issues |
| 11:49.42 | amro | it's not like they'd make everyone on live redownload |
| 11:50.00 | amro | but the complaint is still valid, and the whole point of doing this shit during beta |
| 11:53.02 | Legorol | Wimpeh`: it's surprisingly good |
| 11:53.40 | Wimpeh` | Seems good so far |
| 11:53.53 | industrial | slowhead.com! |
| 11:53.54 | industrial | :| |
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| 11:56.49 | Legorol | Wimpeh`: you got IRC access in the cinema? :O |
| 11:56.56 | Lothaer | gday girls and boys |
| 11:57.22 | olafski | blargh why does the battle.net website have to be so slow |
| 11:57.57 | Lothaer | lots of people using it? |
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| 11:58.23 | olafski | no clue.. I don't think it's ever responded properly for me |
| 11:58.43 | Lothaer | were u based? |
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| 11:59.21 | Wimpeh` | Legorol: ... N- I mean, Yeah! :D |
| 11:59.21 | olafski | holland.. and what do you know, it works instantly in internet explorer :) |
| 11:59.34 | nevcairiel | amro: when it goes live, you can patch your live install and install the base material from a dvd you got |
| 11:59.36 | olafski | yet Chrome is still waiting after like 5 minutes ;) |
| 11:59.54 | nevcairiel | amro: you wont need to download 15gb |
| 11:59.59 | Lothaer | i use FF |
| 12:00.03 | Lothaer | no issues |
| 12:00.14 | Lothaer | yeah thats fkn BS huh nec |
| 12:00.15 | Lothaer | nev* |
| 12:00.25 | Lothaer | i still got like 11GB to go |
| 12:00.35 | Lothaer | sorry |
| 12:00.46 | Arrowmaster | olafski: blizzard is bad and does a fuck ton of user agent based serving of completely different pages depending on what browser you have |
| 12:00.46 | Lothaer | 10.4GB with 38hrs eta |
| 12:01.28 | Lothaer | imagine if everyone needed to reinstall with Catalysm |
| 12:01.51 | ReAn | im just glad it seems blizzard figured out how to make thier downloader not suck and actually use a full cable connection instead of 5% |
| 12:02.00 | nevcairiel | amro: and yes, inconvenience during beta are fine as long as they serve the testing process. They wouldn't get much feedback on the streaming client if they made it optional to people, now they get alot of feedback. |
| 12:02.05 | cbreak | 10gb is 2 or 3 hours |
| 12:02.13 | Lothaer | not for me |
| 12:02.29 | nevcairiel | the downloader was running at 90% of my line as well, on average |
| 12:02.41 | olafski | arrowmaster: guess they didn't think of chrome then ;) |
| 12:02.54 | Lothaer | <---- Australia 1.5MB ADSL connection but its downloading at about +/- 100KB/s |
| 12:03.43 | Arrowmaster | olafski: they do it in such a horrible way that no i dont think they think of chrome |
| 12:03.55 | cbreak | Lothaer: luckily it's P2P |
| 12:04.06 | Lothaer | true |
| 12:04.09 | cbreak | so once a few more australians have it, it won't have to go over the satelite link |
| 12:04.11 | ReAn | nevcairiel: seems that the new downloader's using 25% now, which actually impresses me |
| 12:04.15 | cbreak | or the subsea cables |
| 12:04.29 | ReAn | but 15gb (which is what it reports it's downloading) @ 450kb is kinda meh |
| 12:04.37 | cbreak | I have a 50mbit cable modem link :) |
| 12:04.37 | Lothaer | i wonder how many Aussies are in the beta lol |
| 12:04.39 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: all they do is serve xml/xslt to sane browsers and pre-rendered html to stupid browsers, they just havent updated that list in a while |
| 12:05.05 | Lothaer | hate you cbreak |
| 12:05.13 | Lothaer | lol |
| 12:05.38 | Lothaer | iirc the fastest connection i can get (for me area) is like 8MB |
| 12:06.13 | cbreak | I upgraded from 25 to 50 two weeks ago |
| 12:06.19 | cbreak | and it's even cheaper :) |
| 12:06.27 | nevcairiel | i'll be upgrading from my 3 to 16 in 3 weeks |
| 12:06.29 | cbreak | but of course it's asymetric, so only 5mbit upload |
| 12:06.36 | Gnarfoz | <+Lothaer> <---- Australia 1.5MB ADSL connection but its downloading at about +/- 100KB/s <-- it's like there's much more in there for you? 1.5MBit/s is just 187KiB/s :p |
| 12:06.47 | nevcairiel | didnt want to go all out on the 50mbit, not sure i would really need it |
| 12:06.51 | Gnarfoz | s/like/not like/ |
| 12:07.25 | Gnarfoz | also, turn off p2p if you want it to max your connection out - they still haven't figured out that saturing your upstream doesn't really do torrent any good |
| 12:07.32 | cbreak | I don't need the downstream, but having tons of upstream is very nice |
| 12:07.43 | nevcairiel | it would be 50/10 for me |
| 12:07.48 | Lothaer | 1500kbps/256kbps 50GB (25GB+25GB) $49.95 is what im on atm |
| 12:07.49 | nevcairiel | but double the price of the 16mbit |
| 12:08.02 | nevcairiel | even a bit more then double |
| 12:08.05 | nevcairiel | i can always upgrade later |
| 12:08.07 | Lothaer | up to 8000kbps/384kbps 180GB (90GB+90GB) $129.95 thats the best for my area |
| 12:08.20 | ReAn | HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 12:08.28 | Gnarfoz | it frightens me that there are countries where such ripoff internet connections exist |
| 12:08.31 | ReAn | the new water effects are progressive download |
| 12:08.36 | Lothaer | and this is the best they have to offer Up to 100Mbps/4Mbps 180GB (90GB+90GB) $144.95 |
| 12:08.38 | cbreak | Lothaer: bw limit? :/ |
| 12:08.42 | ReAn | i launched the client @ 5% and it's vanilla wow water |
| 12:08.48 | cbreak | I have unlimited transfer |
| 12:08.55 | Gnarfoz | I launched it at 1% and it was cata water |
| 12:09.13 | nevcairiel | maybe your new water is turned off |
| 12:09.17 | nevcairiel | switch to ultra settings |
| 12:09.19 | Gnarfoz | ^ |
| 12:09.59 | Lothaer | As the distance from the exchange increases, the speed will decrease accordingly. This decrease is affected by the quality of your phone line, including the internal wiring of your house. It is impossible for Adam Internet to determine the attainable speed prior to your service being active. |
| 12:10.05 | nevcairiel | but yes, the high-res textures are part of the green area |
| 12:10.11 | nevcairiel | 50 to 100% |
| 12:11.24 | ReAn | nope |
| 12:11.30 | ReAn | it just showed up on its won |
| 12:11.32 | ReAn | own* |
| 12:11.37 | ReAn | about 2 mins later |
| 12:11.44 | ReAn | they must have downloaded the shader late |
| 12:12.59 | Lothaer | http://adam.com.au/products_home.php |
| 12:13.03 | Lothaer | thats my ISP |
| 12:15.49 | Fisker | hey Lothaer |
| 12:15.59 | Lothaer | yo |
| 12:16.05 | Fisker | i thought adam was shit you injected into your body |
| 12:16.31 | Lothaer | roflmao |
| 12:16.45 | Fisker | what are those "bandwitdh caps" you describe btw? |
| 12:18.45 | Lothaer | pretty much once you have reach your maximum downloads for the month your internet is slowed based on your deal |
| 12:18.51 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: textures yes, but the new water isn't one ;p |
| 12:19.07 | Gnarfoz | Lothaer: YHBT |
| 12:19.23 | Fisker | i know Lothaer |
| 12:19.27 | amro | nevcairiel: that's what I said (about the download) |
| 12:19.30 | Fisker | i'm just being a jerk since we don't have bandwitdh caps |
| 12:19.34 | Lothaer | like for me i have 50gigs of downloadds p/m if i go over that my 1.5MB connections is slowed to 125K |
| 12:19.48 | Lothaer | yeah i know |
| 12:19.48 | ReAn | holy crap |
| 12:19.52 | ReAn | those are bad caps |
| 12:19.53 | amro | and my point is there's nothing wrong with complaining about that. would you say people shouldn't say there's lag during stress tests? |
| 12:20.09 | Lothaer | of all the countries that have the Internet Australia has the WORST possible internet options |
| 12:20.13 | ReAn | lol |
| 12:20.19 | ReAn | im at 300gb since the month started |
| 12:20.20 | ReAn | :p |
| 12:20.21 | Gnarfoz | amro: people should complain to their fucking ISPs not blizzard |
| 12:20.45 | amro | what makes you think they don't? |
| 12:20.52 | amro | is there a cap on complaints per month as well? |
| 12:20.55 | Gnarfoz | what makes you think Blizzard can do anything about it? |
| 12:21.05 | ReAn | they can be considerate |
| 12:21.07 | amro | what makes you think I want blizzard to do something about it? |
| 12:21.09 | ReAn | that's amro's point |
| 12:21.13 | amro | that too |
| 12:21.18 | Lothaer | its the same for all the other plans |
| 12:21.20 | Gnarfoz | why are you complaining to them if you don't want them to do anything about it? |
| 12:21.25 | amro | but mostly, there's nothing wrong with stating that it's an inconvenience (ie, complaining) |
| 12:21.29 | Gnarfoz | Lothaer: do you think that will change with the new Australia-wide backbone thingy being built? |
| 12:21.33 | amro | to let them know, it's a beta and that's the entire point of it |
| 12:21.42 | Gnarfoz | yes, there is, it's annoying since the people you're complaining to can't fix it!~ |
| 12:21.47 | Wimpeh` | Movie is fantastic already, 20 minutes into it. |
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| 12:21.59 | Lothaer | if your lucky enough to have a 100MB connection once you go over your slowed to 4MB |
| 12:22.06 | ReAn | personally i support the new downloader, but i just wish i was given a choice to try it :/ |
| 12:22.09 | amro | Gnarfoz: if someone breaks my foot, they can't also fix it |
| 12:22.11 | Gnarfoz | do you want them to invent magical new compression algorithms or something? |
| 12:22.21 | amro | stop missing the point so forcefully |
| 12:22.26 | Gnarfoz | I am? |
| 12:22.28 | amro | yes |
| 12:22.31 | Gnarfoz | no I'm not |
| 12:22.35 | amro | yes, you are |
| 12:22.37 | Arrowmaster | you dont have to play the beta |
| 12:22.39 | Gnarfoz | see above: |
| 12:22.40 | amro | I don't want them to do anything about it |
| 12:22.51 | amro | I want you to stop saying people shouldn't complaing because that's THE WHOLE POINT OF THE BETA |
| 12:22.51 | Arrowmaster | so stop bitching |
| 12:22.53 | Gnarfoz | <nevcairiel> stop the damn entitlement |
| 12:23.28 | amro | a complaint doesn't imply entitlement, you have to let blizzard know if something's wrong |
| 12:23.33 | amro | if you don't, you're a bad tester |
| 12:23.34 | Lothaer | Gnarfoz: everyone in Australia has complained about it, it just that Telstra are fkn jerks they control ALL the lines and can charge what ever they want |
| 12:23.35 | amro | period |
| 12:23.35 | Gnarfoz | there is NOTHING wrong |
| 12:23.37 | ReAn | haha |
| 12:23.39 | ReAn | that's so cool |
| 12:23.48 | ReAn | just watched the kelp forest get built up peice by peice |
| 12:23.54 | Lothaer | i think i just crosses my conversations lol |
| 12:23.56 | amro | that's debatable Gnarfoz, and a debate I'm not interested in having |
| 12:24.33 | amro | some people can't download the client again, and they're letting blizzard know. maybe some are idiots and use stupid language in doing so |
| 12:24.49 | amro | but the point is, they can no longer test if they want to |
| 12:24.56 | amro | heck, at least then blizzard knows maybe they need more testers |
| 12:25.03 | Gnarfoz | so Blizzard knows now, what next? |
| 12:25.11 | amro | next you stop complaining about complaints |
| 12:25.18 | amro | end of story |
| 12:25.19 | Lothaer | i told blizzard what i thought of the 15GB download |
| 12:25.24 | Gnarfoz | I'll stop talking when I want to |
| 12:25.34 | Lothaer | and now im temp banned from the beta until the 9th >< |
| 12:25.46 | amro | it's nice to hear that Gnarfoz, especially when you're telling others when to talk |
| 12:25.47 | Gnarfoz | Lothaer: but amro says they want the complaints! :p |
| 12:26.00 | amro | they shouldn |
| 12:26.02 | amro | er |
| 12:26.02 | Gnarfoz | amro: I realize that, it's just that I'm not wrong |
| 12:26.03 | amro | should |
| 12:26.12 | amro | of course you're not |
| 12:26.20 | Lothaer | wanna see what i said that got me a temp ban? |
| 12:26.30 | amro | sure |
| 12:27.08 | Lothaer | are you fing crazy its gonna take me 69hrs (according to the downloader) thats the better part of 3 days to download.... serious WTF |
| 12:27.21 | amro | yeah that's banworthy :P |
| 12:27.29 | amro | that's not exactly a constructive complaint |
| 12:27.45 | Lothaer | i know |
| 12:27.47 | Gnarfoz | except that you could play after just a fraction of that time Lothaer, which is the entire point of the new downloader |
| 12:27.53 | Lothaer | netted me a 4day ban |
| 12:27.58 | Lothaer | um no |
| 12:28.06 | Lothaer | with my net i would have stupid lag |
| 12:28.10 | Gnarfoz | um yes, except if you need 69 hours for 654MB |
| 12:28.14 | Lothaer | i dont play anything while im downloading a patch |
| 12:28.20 | Gnarfoz | not if you turned off P2P, like I said earlier already |
| 12:28.29 | Lothaer | true |
| 12:28.32 | amro | you'd still get one way lag |
| 12:28.34 | Lothaer | but no all of it will work |
| 12:28.36 | amro | downstream |
| 12:28.45 | amro | which is kinda funny |
| 12:28.46 | Gnarfoz | Lothaer: guess what, that's the point of the streaming downloader |
| 12:28.55 | Gnarfoz | you can play while not everything is available |
| 12:30.08 | Gnarfoz | I'd say give it a try, but I guess you'll have to wait until the 9th for that |
| 12:30.10 | Lothaer | wouldnt direct download be quicker? |
| 12:30.15 | Gnarfoz | ?? |
| 12:30.21 | Gnarfoz | the webseeds are "direct download" |
| 12:31.14 | amro | Lothaer: the point isn't to get you to play again, it's to test the streaming downloader |
| 12:31.27 | cbreak | turning off p2p will probably reduce download speed |
| 12:31.39 | Gnarfoz | cbreak: no shit, but not for people with 1.5MBit lines |
| 12:32.11 | cbreak | you just have to be careful that there's enough upstream for timely ACKs |
| 12:32.16 | cbreak | or downstream will suffer |
| 12:32.17 | Gnarfoz | and for people with tiny upload capacities, it will most likely improve anyway, since the torrent part of the downloader will simply fill up your upstream, crippling your downstream |
| 12:32.30 | Gnarfoz | cbreak: which is *easy* with a single HTTP download, lol |
| 12:33.01 | cbreak | but a simple traffic shaper with ack priorisation should resolve that |
| 12:33.14 | Gnarfoz | there's nothing to solve for the webseeds |
| 12:33.27 | Gnarfoz | and traffic shaping can't fix the torrent part of blizzard's downloader |
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| 12:33.54 | Gnarfoz | or well, traffic shaping could, but not simple ack priorisation |
| 12:34.06 | amro | I never had more than 20kb/s uploading on the downloader, it never crippled anything |
| 12:34.28 | Gnarfoz | amro: on what kind of upstream bw? |
| 12:34.38 | amro | 512kbps |
| 12:34.43 | Gnarfoz | you're funny. |
| 12:34.49 | Gnarfoz | :| |
| 12:34.54 | amro | I can get up to 60kb/s on it |
| 12:35.03 | amro | 33% of that is not even close to saturation |
| 12:35.03 | Gnarfoz | I realize, because dividing by 8 is not hard :D |
| 12:35.14 | Lothaer | amra: i know that |
| 12:35.23 | amro | it's not a simple matter of dividing by 8 |
| 12:35.27 | Gnarfoz | it is. |
| 12:35.28 | amro | not all connections get you the same speed as on paper |
| 12:35.33 | Gnarfoz | also: maybe your unconnectable ;) |
| 12:35.47 | Gnarfoz | uhm, yes unless your ISP is defrauding you |
| 12:36.02 | Gnarfoz | protocol overhead aside, but that's not their problem. |
| 12:36.11 | amro | I never said it was their problem |
| 12:36.16 | Gnarfoz | since you were talking about connections, not applications, yes, you were |
| 12:36.27 | amro | you make too many assumptions |
| 12:36.32 | amro | you know what |
| 12:36.40 | Gnarfoz | you choose your wording poorly? |
| 12:36.41 | amro | I'm gonna stop, you go ahead and keep doing both sides of the conversatoin |
| 12:36.49 | Gnarfoz | they could simply offer an option to set the upload limit in the downloader. they already offer an option to disable upload altogether, so where's the harm. :\ |
| 12:36.52 | amro | I choose my wording fine, I don't use your instead of you're |
| 12:37.04 | Lothaer | anyone got any popcorn? |
| 12:37.08 | Gnarfoz | show me where I did? lol |
| 12:37.19 | amro | [13:35] <Gnarfoz> also: maybe your unconnectable ;) |
| 12:37.21 | cbreak | I never got the obsession americans have with popcorn |
| 12:37.26 | Gnarfoz | I see! |
| 12:37.32 | Lothaer | <---- Aussie |
| 12:37.38 | cbreak | maybe it's caused by the same lobby that makes them use corn suggar in coke and so on |
| 12:37.41 | Gnarfoz | too much focus on "you" today ;] |
| 12:37.55 | amro | not bad, I'll give you points for that |
| 12:37.58 | Fisker | blows Gnarfoz up |
| 12:39.06 | Gnarfoz | I don't see what else you could have been saying with "not all connections give you the speed they're advertised for" (paraphrased, to clarify what I understood from it) |
| 12:39.43 | amro | I didn't say advertised for, see you just assume instead of asking for clarifications |
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| 12:39.55 | amro | you don't get your rated speed because of inevitable overhead |
| 12:39.58 | Gnarfoz | "on paper" - what else could you mean? |
| 12:40.00 | amro | which isn't a huge difference |
| 12:40.14 | amro | but like I said, not a simple matter of just dividing by 8 to get your top speed |
| 12:40.17 | Gnarfoz | yeah and overhead is inside the connection, hence a problem of the application you're running *on* the connectiong? |
| 12:40.20 | Gnarfoz | -g |
| 12:40.34 | amro | why are we still talking about this? |
| 12:40.38 | Gnarfoz | which again leads to: blizzard could make a better torrent client :| |
| 12:40.52 | Gnarfoz | because Blizzard's torrent client still sucks! <3 |
| 12:41.22 | cbreak | use your own then |
| 12:41.25 | amro | ^ |
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| 12:41.44 | Gnarfoz | cbreak: try doing that with the new streaming downloader, I invite you! :) |
| 12:42.13 | cbreak | it's optional |
| 12:42.18 | cbreak | you can use the old one too I thought |
| 12:42.22 | Gnarfoz | no? |
| 12:42.44 | Gnarfoz | why would those poor bandwidth starved people be complaining then, or even need to re-download in the first place? |
| 12:43.22 | Gnarfoz | that's what the reasonable ones who don't expect Blizzard to fix the world are asking for: making it optional |
| 12:43.36 | Lothaer | :D |
| 12:43.57 | Gnarfoz | fix shit on my server or level my warlock... hmmm |
| 12:44.09 | nevcairiel | amro: if someone says "i think blizzard needs to go eat a dick, that's bullshit" thats absolute entitlment and just shows that the person in question doesnt understand the basic principle of a beta TEST |
| 12:44.11 | cbreak | well, I don't really care. I live in a country where bandwidth is plentyfull and harddisks are cheap :) |
| 12:44.20 | amro | nevcairiel: that's true |
| 12:44.47 | amro | but that's a dumbass. not everyone complaining is spewing bullshit |
| 12:45.46 | amro | Gnarfoz: why would they make it optional on beta? nobody would test it then |
| 12:45.52 | nevcairiel | they want focused testing on one specific area |
| 12:45.58 | nevcairiel | so they make it the only way to access the beta |
| 12:46.01 | amro | yep |
| 12:46.03 | nevcairiel | seems like a good idea =) |
| 12:46.12 | amro | it is |
| 12:46.13 | Gnarfoz | amro: exactly? |
| 12:46.35 | Xinhuan | i don't know about you, but if you just let it finish patching befre you click "PLAY" |
| 12:46.40 | amro | you mentioned making it optional as reasonable |
| 12:46.43 | Xinhuan | the streaming client wouldn't be any different from before |
| 12:46.46 | amro | on live yeah |
| 12:46.49 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: its still somewhat broken right now |
| 12:47.02 | Xinhuan | in what way |
| 12:47.03 | nevcairiel | it doesnt properly download everything |
| 12:47.14 | nevcairiel | just log in and walk around, you'll notice that stuff is still missing |
| 12:47.20 | nevcairiel | it loads it and then it just pops up |
| 12:47.26 | Xinhuan | ah so, its a client problem |
| 12:47.45 | Xinhuan | i assume that when its fixed, if you let it patch 100% before you click PLAY, it wouldn't be an issue |
| 12:47.47 | Gnarfoz | amro: I assumed ReAn was reasonable, maybe I was wrong: <ReAn> personally i support the new downloader, but i just wish i was given a choice to try it :/ |
| 12:47.49 | amro | nevcairiel: any chance it forgets the obstacles in instances so you can skip bosses? :P |
| 12:47.53 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: thats what the FAQ says |
| 12:48.10 | nevcairiel | amro: nah, its just missing textures, the world is still there, just invisible :P |
| 12:48.12 | Xinhuan | well its beta right, i don't expect eveyrthing to work right! |
| 12:48.17 | Gnarfoz | amro: stuff that isn't there blocks your way anyway :| |
| 12:48.32 | amro | aw |
| 12:48.34 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: you're pretty lonely in that particular boat |
| 12:48.38 | amro | I wonder if that means you can't delete stuff anymore |
| 12:48.48 | nevcairiel | it would redownload it :d |
| 12:49.00 | Xinhuan | its the most reasonable boat Gnarfoz |
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| 12:49.10 | Xinhuan | if 1 million people jumped off the cliff, would you jump too? |
| 12:49.18 | amro | yes |
| 12:49.19 | Gnarfoz | Xinhuan: those two statements agree with each other pretty well. :p |
| 12:49.22 | amro | 1 million people make a fine cushion |
| 12:49.24 | nevcairiel | sure, would land soft on all the corpses |
| 12:49.32 | Xinhuan | rolls his eyes |
| 12:49.32 | cbreak | there are people who pay a lot of money for base jumping |
| 12:49.33 | amro | ~nevcairiel++ |
| 12:49.34 | amro | for sync |
| 12:49.39 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 12:50.57 | Gnarfoz | sigh https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=49439 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=528062 =| |
| 12:51.30 | nevcairiel | i gave up on that and just create subdomains now |
| 12:53.51 | Gnarfoz | http://i.imgur.com/V1WW5.gif is how I feel about it |
| 12:57.28 | amro | it's debian, what do you expect? |
| 12:57.35 | amro | they don't even watch movies until 3 years later |
| 12:58.41 | Gnarfoz | it's apache, not debian ;p |
| 12:59.10 | Gnarfoz | that is, it's not debian-related, the original bug reporter just reported it there first because he uses debian |
| 12:59.13 | Gnarfoz | :\ |
| 12:59.40 | amro | I dunno, I figure if upstream is slacking the distro maintainers take care of crucial patches |
| 12:59.55 | Gnarfoz | well, neither seem to care |
| 12:59.56 | Gnarfoz | :| |
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| 13:06.58 | Lothaer | so anyone have any ideas what they want the next expansion (after Cataclysm) to be? |
| 13:07.12 | nevcairiel | emerald dream! |
| 13:07.31 | Lothaer | thats probably what it will be |
| 13:07.48 | Lothaer | maybe another old god? |
| 13:09.11 | Lothaer | Southrend? |
| 13:09.29 | Fisker | Wrath of the Trade Prince |
| 13:09.49 | nevcairiel | there is nothing in the lore about any other continent |
| 13:10.03 | nevcairiel | the emerald dream would be a perfect candidate |
| 13:10.07 | Lothaer | maybe it hasnt been discovered yet |
| 13:10.13 | Lothaer | the lore is continually changing |
| 13:10.32 | Gnarfoz | why do people assume, that because a northern continent is called Northrend that a southern continent named Southrend makes sense? :| |
| 13:10.50 | Lothaer | i was just playing off northrend :D |
| 13:10.58 | Gnarfoz | who rended it? and why? |
| 13:10.59 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 13:11.25 | Lothaer | World of Wacraft: Land Down Under |
| 13:11.27 | Lothaer | :D |
| 13:11.54 | Lothaer | Mick Dundee can be the end boss |
| 13:13.50 | nevcairiel | demons could also get some comeback |
| 13:14.25 | cbreak | zerg invasion. |
| 13:14.36 | Lothaer | LOL |
| 13:14.46 | Lothaer | World of Diablocraft |
| 13:15.00 | cbreak | Space of Starcraft? |
| 13:15.14 | Lothaer | i was actually mixing all three |
| 13:15.26 | nevcairiel | warcraft already includes craft |
| 13:15.32 | Lothaer | WORLD OF wacraft, DIABLO, starCRAFT |
| 13:16.42 | haste | Universe of StarCraft |
| 13:19.31 | Gnarfoz | World of Your Mom |
| 13:20.28 | Wobin | Cairenn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pceio4hOmFQ |
| 13:20.39 | Wobin | I would not, for anything, play DDR with this kid |
| 13:21.42 | Lothaer | OMG |
| 13:21.46 | amro | I miss the days when asian kids were taught badass martial arts |
| 13:21.49 | A-KO | sigh |
| 13:21.54 | A-KO | the fleas here are REALLY bad this year.... |
| 13:21.57 | A-KO | we're flea bombing the house today.. |
| 13:22.08 | A-KO | I wish I could like, tear up the whole neighborhood and get rid of them |
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| 13:27.48 | amro | ~lart Adys |
| 13:27.48 | purl | blasts Adys to oblivion with a kamehameha wave |
| 13:27.54 | amro | harsh |
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| 13:29.22 | Fisker | slaps amro around a bit with a large trout |
| 13:29.29 | Fisker | pwnt |
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| 13:32.33 | Fisker | tell me lies tell me sweet little lies airtonix |
| 13:34.35 | Wobin | amro: times have changed? |
| 13:34.45 | amro | for the worse :( |
| 13:34.49 | Wobin | asian kids are -still- being taught badass martial arts =P |
| 13:34.57 | amro | yeah, but not as much |
| 13:35.02 | Wobin | well yeah |
| 13:35.04 | amro | on the bright side, there are less toddlers that can kick my ass |
| 13:35.11 | Wobin | they're also not being sent off to live at Shaolin either =P |
| 13:35.33 | amro | Shaolin ftw |
| 13:36.57 | mikma | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2010/august/twilightascendants.jpg |
| 13:37.00 | mikma | scary |
| 13:40.21 | mikma | this tekken movie is boring |
| 13:40.54 | Wobin | mikma: thank god for pants? |
| 13:41.13 | Wobin | there's a tekken movie/ |
| 13:41.21 | Wobin | I thought there was only a Dead or Alive one |
| 13:42.02 | mikma | wobin: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0411951/ |
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| 13:42.52 | mikma | wobin: http://megarelease.net/2010/08/04/tekken-2010-dvdrip-xvid-ac3-vision/ |
| 13:44.28 | mikma | altho, it has cool "fighter" chick that actually knows nothing of martial arts xD |
| 13:44.42 | zenzelezz | so looking at MMOC's transcripts of the new conversation sound files, I'm intrigued that they seem undecided on whether to use Vorbis or regular wave files |
| 13:44.47 | Lothaer | im more interested in this http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1672087/ |
| 13:44.52 | zenzelezz | (for all I know they may have mixed and matched for a long time) |
| 13:46.14 | mikma | lothaer: lol lol lol, i love how they cycle the actress' in the movies |
| 13:46.18 | mikma | http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1406333/ |
| 13:46.24 | mikma | # Tekken (2010) .... Kazuya |
| 13:46.29 | mikma | # Mortal Kombat: Rebirth (2010) (V) .... Scorpion / Hanzo Hasashi |
| 13:46.56 | Wobin | cause it's hard to find good actors that can do the stunts =P |
| 13:47.05 | Wobin | mikma: video game? |
| 13:47.47 | mikma | yeah |
| 13:47.58 | Lothaer | mikma: you seen the pitch for MK:R? |
| 13:48.25 | A-KO | don't like it |
| 13:48.28 | A-KO | that's not Mortal Kombat |
| 13:48.33 | A-KO | it's terrible |
| 13:48.44 | A-KO | I wouldn't go see it that's for sure :P |
| 13:48.47 | Lothaer | i think it looks freaking awesome |
| 13:48.48 | mikma | lothaer: nope |
| 13:49.00 | mikma | lothaer: link if you find |
| 13:49.05 | A-KO | now, have you seen the MK game revamp? |
| 13:49.07 | A-KO | THAT looks awesome |
| 13:49.08 | Lothaer | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFMKYFdYbbs |
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| 13:49.16 | Lothaer | yes i have |
| 13:49.20 | Lothaer | and yes it is |
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| 13:49.42 | Lothaer | after MK vs DC i thought WB would ruin MK |
| 13:50.02 | Lothaer | its going back to pure gore |
| 13:50.17 | Lothaer | no fansy flashy fatalites etc just pure gore |
| 13:50.17 | Lothaer | :D |
| 13:51.27 | Lothaer | i saw this article very interesting :D http://www.gametrailers.com/video/top-10-screwattack/702288 |
| 13:51.54 | A-KO | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbrhREmVJjE |
| 13:51.57 | A-KO | on that looks awesome too |
| 13:52.47 | A-KO | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foMlbQD6ajk |
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| 13:54.52 | Lothaer | anyone remember a awesome game called Killer Instinct? now thats a game that would look awesome on PS3 |
| 13:55.09 | Lothaer | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mntjm5O1GT8&feature=fvw |
| 13:56.33 | A-KO | lol |
| 13:59.47 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: did you have fun last night? |
| 14:00.06 | Arrowmaster | ? |
| 14:00.17 | Arrowmaster | i got off the 360 not long after you did |
| 14:00.35 | Lothaer | A-KO: i love the internal anatomy stuff huh |
| 14:00.38 | Ackis | but doing the free roam... first time you and I have played lol |
| 14:00.39 | Lothaer | bones breaking etc |
| 14:00.55 | Ackis | sorry I'm deaf btw, have trouble hearing people talk through the 360 headset |
| 14:00.58 | A-KO | yeah Lothaer, :P |
| 14:02.01 | Lothaer | whos your fav MK character? |
| 14:02.16 | Ackis | Yoda |
| 14:02.24 | Lothaer | lol |
| 14:02.34 | A-KO | lol |
| 14:02.43 | A-KO | I rather liked Kabal back in the MK3 days |
| 14:02.55 | A-KO | Cyrax was fun, too |
| 14:02.58 | A-KO | grenade/net combos |
| 14:03.15 | A-KO | sub zero is an obvious pick, he's just destructive in the right hands |
| 14:03.18 | mikma | lothaer: jesus fucking christ, my name is scorpion :D |
| 14:03.52 | Lothaer | my favs Subzero too |
| 14:03.54 | Lothaer | :D |
| 14:03.58 | Lothaer | mikma |
| 14:04.00 | Lothaer | lol |
| 14:04.13 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: really? i didnt say much anyway |
| 14:04.18 | A-KO | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCtrmbuSKpQ < and omfgwtf (nsfw, not mk-related) lol |
| 14:04.33 | Thunder_Child | http://www.fileplanet.com/fileblog/archives/2010/08/entry_3741.shtml |
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| 14:07.45 | mikma | lothaer: scorpion is kinda cool, with all the tentacles and stuff! |
| 14:08.29 | Lothaer | yeah he his Block+Up,Up |
| 14:09.04 | amro | let's just hope the game is worth playing |
| 14:09.44 | Lothaer | yeah MKvDC was horrible imho |
| 14:10.12 | Fisker | slaps Lothaer around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:10.52 | Lothaer | ~diaf Fisker |
| 14:10.53 | purl | ACTION covers Fisker in gas and drops a match. |
| 14:10.59 | Lothaer | :P |
| 14:11.35 | Lothaer | my downloader just went into the green |
| 14:12.33 | mikma | gz! |
| 14:12.55 | mikma | mine is read 75% |
| 14:12.56 | mikma | red* |
| 14:14.18 | cbreak | "Egon Stetman, Rank: Ph. D." :) |
| 14:15.38 | Fisker | ow |
| 14:15.41 | haste | mikma: restart it and it turns yellow |
| 14:15.51 | haste | or green, not entirely sure :P |
| 14:17.47 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 14:17.49 | Fisker | *stares* |
| 14:17.51 | Lothaer | yeah mines green @ 48% |
| 14:18.43 | mikma | haste: i did actually, several times :) still red |
| 14:18.59 | mikma | mine was yellow at 25%, was able to login and take couple of screenshots |
| 14:19.14 | mikma | but now it's red again, must be downloading cata |
| 14:20.51 | mikma | omg lol lol |
| 14:21.09 | mikma | why don't you take the axe away from him, even after he already showed he's not gonna hill him |
| 14:21.12 | mikma | kill* |
| 14:21.15 | mikma | so brilliant movie |
| 14:21.25 | mikma | is like "jin, gief axe" |
| 14:25.20 | Lothaer | from that clip i linked to Kung Laos fatality is by far the best |
| 14:26.57 | mikma | babality |
| 14:27.36 | Lothaer | Friendship |
| 14:28.39 | Lothaer | some of the Animalities were cool |
| 14:29.03 | mikma | lothaer: rofl, those subzero bonebreaking animations are awesome |
| 14:30.45 | Lothaer | looks like he freezes the guys stomache and shatters it |
| 14:31.21 | haste | mikma: odd, restarting the launcher solved it for me under linux |
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| 14:31.44 | mikma | HAHA |
| 14:31.59 | mikma | Kung Lao used his hat so saw Liu Kang in half |
| 15:06.46 | alestane | http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20051010 |
| 15:24.14 | Fisker | i map u alestane |
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| 15:28.01 | Spejnar | Is there somethnig wrong with writing like this? if not weaponInformation[6] == nil then |
| 15:28.14 | Spejnar | it either contains nil or a itemLink |
| 15:28.22 | Spejnar | but I cant get it to enter, no matter if its nil or not |
| 15:28.54 | Spejnar | oh wait |
| 15:29.01 | Spejnar | hmm |
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| 15:30.43 | Wobin | Spejnar: if not weaponInformation[6] will do |
| 15:30.53 | Wobin | er |
| 15:30.57 | Wobin | Spejnar: if weaponInformation[6] will do |
| 15:31.13 | Wobin | nil evaluates to false |
| 15:31.47 | Spejnar | oh right |
| 15:33.01 | Spejnar | whats a "good" way to store weapons+some information? Right now the max is 5 weapons+info, so I just use a table index 1-5 for weapon1, 6-10 for weapon2 and so on. Any smarter way to solve it? Can probably put a table in the table so weapon1 is weapon[1] or something |
| 15:34.27 | Wobin | what are you trying to do? |
| 15:35.16 | Spejnar | Im doing a "weapon evaluator" for a summer course, saving weaponLink + some info, gonna save time used, dmg done, calculated dps and actual dps for different weapons, to learn to react to events and so on |
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| 15:35.38 | Spejnar | oh, it worked, thanks Wobin for the if-statement tips ^^ |
| 15:35.46 | Spejnar | Which I knew, ofcourse *cough* |
| 15:36.59 | Wobin | index by weaponlink |
| 15:37.28 | Wobin | or weaponid |
| 15:37.36 | Wobin | er itemid |
| 15:37.42 | Wobin | but maybe weaponlink will be better |
| 15:37.49 | Wobin | since that will separate enchanted items etc |
| 15:37.50 | Pneumatus | itemid assumes you don't have 2 different gemmed/enchanted weapons tho |
| 15:38.06 | Spejnar | so weaponInformation[weaponLink] = table with the information? |
| 15:38.23 | Wobin | yeah |
| 15:38.39 | Spejnar | alright, yeah, it does make sense |
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| 15:44.02 | Spejnar | is "time" a reserved lua keyword? my npp gives me strange formatting on it |
| 15:44.16 | cbreak | no |
| 15:45.48 | Wobin | it's possibly http://www.lua.org/pil/22.1.html |
| 15:46.07 | Wobin | but not a reserved keyword as such |
| 15:46.33 | Spejnar | Ill just change it to timeUsed or something |
| 15:46.45 | Spejnar | or nm |
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| 15:49.06 | cbreak | or use a local |
| 15:49.55 | Spejnar | arnt I suppose to be able to use weaponInformation[1] to get the first even thought I use a weaponLink as the key? |
| 15:50.22 | alestane | ...No. |
| 15:50.34 | alestane | The key id the link, not the number 1. |
| 15:50.35 | Spejnar | nm, I fixed it in a better way |
| 15:50.52 | alestane | is* |
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| 15:52.17 | alestane | If you want to maintain an order to a table indexed with strings, then add an array in the same table or a different table: weaponInformation[weaponLink] = info; weaponInformation[1] = weaponLink. |
| 15:52.34 | alestane | That way you can sort the array portion as you see fit. |
| 15:54.03 | Iriel | If you're persisting your table as a saved variable it's generally better to keep the sorted array separate |
| 15:54.36 | Iriel | If you dont save it, then a mixed table is pretty handy and compact, but you can't iterate the string entries sanely with pairs, so there's always a trade-off |
| 15:55.04 | alestane | In this case, the array portion isn't something that will need to be pickled. |
| 15:56.48 | Spejnar | Another stupid question, is this how you use the link as key and add information to that key? weaponInformation[mainHandLink] = {button=idx, time=0, dmg=0, dps=0.0, wdps=damagePerSecond} |
| 15:57.08 | Iriel | That would set up a storage table keyed by mainHandLink |
| 15:57.13 | Iriel | You could access it directly... |
| 15:57.16 | cbreak | Spejnar: read the lua manual |
| 15:57.24 | Iriel | weaponInformation[mainHandLink].dmg = 12; |
| 15:57.27 | cbreak | http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html |
| 15:57.36 | Iriel | or you could (and I generally recommend this) grab a reference then access that |
| 15:57.50 | Iriel | local info = weaponInformation[mainHandLink] |
| 15:57.53 | Iriel | info.dmg = 12 |
| 15:57.57 | cbreak | you'll have to construct a table and put it in first if you want to do what iriel proposes |
| 15:57.59 | Iriel | or info.dmg = info.dmg + 2; |
| 15:57.59 | Iriel | etc |
| 15:58.09 | cbreak | no big problem |
| 15:58.26 | Iriel | The other nice thing with using an indirect variable is you can easy add |
| 15:58.45 | cbreak | but it might be worthwhile depending on your algirithms to have several tables, one for dmg, one for time, and so on, instead of one containing lots of tiny tables. |
| 15:58.57 | cbreak | it's less easy to program and less clean |
| 15:58.57 | Iriel | if (info == nil) then info = { ..... put your initializers here ..... } ; weaponInformation[mainHandLink] = info; end |
| 15:59.05 | cbreak | but it might be faster depending on what you use it for |
| 15:59.49 | Iriel | cbreak: Multiple tables makes it FAR harder to do processing across multiple values and all keys, though if the values are really unrelated then it can make sense, I agree. |
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| 16:12.25 | cbreak | Iriel: depending on the algorithms you run on them it might make sense even if they are related |
| 16:12.52 | cbreak | if you only use one value of many items as opposed to many values of just one item |
| 16:13.17 | cbreak | but for map style tables, that's unlikely anyway :) |
| 16:20.32 | Iriel | Right, that's essentially what I was getting at with "related' anyway -- you generally dont process related values independently |
| 16:22.20 | cbreak | in this case probably not |
| 16:23.31 | cbreak | in a particle system, I often process only positions (when simulating), but when drawing also colors. Well, premature optimisation maybe :) |
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| 17:31.02 | Spejnar | I thought I could send arguments to functions? Im sending a weaponLink but I cant use it in the function. Its always nil. |
| 17:31.05 | wereHamster | cbreak: do you still play WoW? |
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| 17:43.02 | Spejnar | calling the function like WeaponEvaluator_updateButtons(mainHandLink) |
| 17:43.25 | Spejnar | function is function WeaponEvaluator_updateButtons(frame, mainHandLink) |
| 17:43.35 | Spejnar | but mainHandLink is always nil |
| 17:52.00 | Spejnar | probably an obvious error since Im not very good at lua, any ideas? |
| 18:01.57 | mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:02.11 | mikma | my vip-ringtone |
| 18:02.20 | mikma | wip* |
| 18:03.38 | Xinhuan | ~seen cide |
| 18:03.42 | purl | cide <~Cide@hus110a.bobbnet.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 10h 20m 8s ago, saying: 'some women don't!'. |
| 18:03.42 | Xinhuan | !seen cide |
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| 18:04.17 | Spejnar | nm found the error |
| 18:11.23 | Fisker | slaps Xinhuan around a bit with a large trout |
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| 18:13.09 | foxlit | Meh, SC2 matchmaker is disappointing |
| 18:13.29 | foxlit | It does seem to keep you to a 50-50 ratio, but it accomplishes this by setting you or your opponents up |
| 18:14.14 | A-KO | huh? |
| 18:14.43 | foxlit | "even" games are far and few between |
| 18:15.14 | nevcairiel | so you either dominate or get your ass kicked? |
| 18:15.30 | foxlit | Basically, yes. |
| 18:15.38 | foxlit | The problem is a bit more complex since I'm playing 3v3 random |
| 18:16.30 | Wimpeh` | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:22.50 | amro | foxlit: for me, in 2v2 at least, it seems that it's just cause everybody tries 50/50 gimmicks |
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| 18:31.53 | foxlit | amro: the annoying 3v3 composition is one guy who tries to proxy cannon, one guy who goes for void rays and one clueless guy (me) |
| 18:32.07 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 18:32.15 | foxlit | The end result is that I'm the only one with tier 1 units trying to defend all three bases. |
| 18:32.47 | foxlit | Also, Ultralisks are awesome |
| 18:33.38 | Shirik | ultralisks are a little OP imo |
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| 18:36.11 | foxlit | Dunno. It seems that if you encounter them in numbers, you've either already got enough air to deal with them or were gravely outmacroed. |
| 18:37.20 | Shirik | they seem to take more of a beating than they should |
| 18:37.29 | Shirik | maybe I just wasn't watching right; I wasn't dealing with them |
| 18:37.34 | foxlit | Zerg ground kind of needs that. |
| 18:47.31 | cbreak | wereHamster: I occasionally log in, but my guild is basically offline at the moment |
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| 18:55.50 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 18:57.05 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 18:59.28 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 19:01.19 | Fisker | hey did you guys hear that 1/3rd of every wow user is using a mac cause they can't computer? |
| 19:06.48 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 19:14.02 | airtonix | Fisker, <insert comment about iphones> |
| 19:14.19 | airtonix | Fisker, it's not because they can't computer... |
| 19:14.51 | airtonix | (although i wont deny that most of them are incapable of understanding why they shouldn't feed cheese to the mouse) |
| 19:19.02 | Dagmar | They only eat special computer hceese anywya |
| 19:19.57 | Fisker | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26435493403&sid=1 <-geddit? |
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| 19:44.35 | Dagmar | Fisker: They shoudln't even allow comments on a thread like that |
| 19:44.44 | Dagmar | >95% of the people posting don't have a fucking clue |
| 19:45.59 | Dagmar | At least a third of them are blatantly grinding their own personal axes |
| 19:46.32 | Dagmar | Nothing good will come of people reading their delusional shit |
| 19:46.56 | Fisker | people are blaming blizzard for bad security as usual? |
| 19:47.04 | Dagmar | That and then some |
| 19:47.21 | Dagmar | Blizz's security is fuckin' fine |
| 19:48.02 | Fisker | more than fine actually |
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| 19:48.32 | Ressy | Too many people fall for fake emails, and don't keep their computer up to date. |
| 19:48.58 | Dagmar | the bigger issue is jackasses who use the same password everywher |
| 19:51.39 | Dagmar | Nastiest solution would be to spread a rumor that Curse, WOWI, and a few other sites are helping blizzard by submitting their password lists to Blizzard, so that if someone got their account hacked by using the same password at one of those sites, Blizzard will refuse to restore their items/equipment. |
| 19:51.58 | Fisker | does the beta have an unlimited amount of character copies? |
| 19:52.20 | Ressy | no |
| 19:52.21 | Fisker | wouldn't fool me :P |
| 19:52.33 | Fisker | why does mine keep staying at 1 then? :o |
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| 19:53.49 | Amarande | G'evening :) |
| 19:57.36 | Fisker | i'm level 20 |
| 19:57.40 | Fisker | i'm so awesome |
| 20:03.12 | Fisker | agree or die |
| 20:03.33 | Mr_Rabies | what does the ! do in a spell cast macro |
| 20:03.40 | Mr_Rabies | like, for example /cast !Maul |
| 20:03.44 | Thunder_Child | i choose die |
| 20:03.55 | Fisker | k |
| 20:04.45 | Gnarfoz | Mr_Rabies: nothing for maul, probably |
| 20:05.09 | Gnarfoz | it means "don't activate if already active" for on next swing attacks and the like, afaik |
| 20:05.45 | Gnarfoz | http://www.wowwiki.com/Making_a_macro#Toggleable_abilities |
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| 20:13.50 | alestane | ! really only works for forms, stances, auras, aspects etc. |
| 20:14.16 | alestane | Anything that switches over to the glowy star button when you turn it on. |
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| 20:44.55 | Fisker | alestanemen |
| 20:45.42 | Fisker | kd3 |
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| 20:49.30 | Amarande | *sigh* bored. |
| 20:49.39 | Amarande | and was considering reconnecting with an old friend of mine from a server I stopped playing on |
| 20:49.54 | Amarande | but the utter lack of anything on her armory activity log since october of 09 kinda suggests she doesn't play wow anymore :( |
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| 21:27.26 | Spejnar | Whats the recommended hit rating for arenas for huntards? 5% vs lvl80s? |
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| 21:33.03 | Gnarfoz | 5% for everyone not using spells |
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| 21:34.50 | Spejnar | but some classes have passive avoidance, gonna do some benchmarking in BGs and see if I miss |
| 21:35.28 | Fisker | damn healing is so easy with the new talent system |
| 21:35.48 | Spejnar | how so? |
| 21:36.20 | Fisker | earthshield /dance |
| 21:36.33 | Fisker | though i'm in heirloom gear as well |
| 21:37.37 | Amarande | I pondered playing my shaman on Stormrage today |
| 21:37.43 | Amarande | but then realize I haven't even played shaman since BC |
| 21:37.48 | Amarande | and I haven't the slightest idea how to play it anymore :S |
| 21:37.50 | mikma | so.... |
| 21:37.59 | mikma | we had sauna worldcup |
| 21:38.09 | Amarande | since shaman changed a lot for LK that I recall and it's going to change a ton again for Cata |
| 21:38.17 | Amarande | DAMN YOU BLIZZARD TAKING AWAY MY CLEANSING TOTEM FOR CATA |
| 21:38.20 | mikma | ended with 1 man dead and another one in hospital |
| 21:38.32 | mikma | nsfw, http://wwwmedia.kaleva.fi/plus/img/mega/20100807/mega_100807j072105i.jpg |
| 21:38.46 | mikma | thats how the man looked when they took him out of the sauna |
| 21:38.54 | mikma | he died shortly after |
| 21:38.57 | Spejnar | mikma: real men |
| 21:38.58 | Yssaril | mikma: link tot he story? |
| 21:38.59 | nicoli_s | ckknight:the parser is fine |
| 21:39.19 | ckknight | shrugs |
| 21:39.34 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* i just called my monitor an lsd screen. |
| 21:40.21 | mikma | yssaril: http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/russian-dies-at-finland-sauna-contest-20100808-11prp.html |
| 21:42.30 | mikma | yssaril: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3336416 |
| 21:42.39 | mikma | the latter is a good explanation |
| 21:44.16 | Yssaril | mikma: any idea of wha actualy went wrong? (or did they just wait to long?) |
| 21:45.45 | mikma | basicly they were cooked to death |
| 21:45.57 | Yssaril | damn |
| 21:46.45 | Amarande | He was found in the wreck ... Hands on the throttle ... Scalded to death by the steam. :D |
| 21:47.07 | mikma | the sauna started at 230F / 110C and the stove gets 0,5l of water every 30sec |
| 21:48.11 | Amarande | T_C: haha |
| 21:48.16 | Amarande | heh you know what's weird, speaking of LSD |
| 21:48.24 | Amarande | apparently one of my favorite Coil songs is about acid, and I didn't know that for years |
| 21:48.27 | mikma | i am still wondering that don't they have any feeling in ttheir bodies, i mean really, you can sense when your skin just freaking burns away |
| 21:49.10 | Amarande | http://www.metrolyrics.com/windowpane-lyrics-coil.html |
| 21:49.39 | Amarande | I didn't even know it was about acid till someone at one lyrics site pointed out that Windowpane is or was a brand of acid |
| 21:49.49 | Amarande | (and apparently people sometimes put hits under their EYELID? wtf?) |
| 21:52.30 | Fisker | you |
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| 21:52.53 | mikma | Alien Swarm proved to be a pretty nice game |
| 21:53.01 | mikma | and it's free from steam! |
| 21:56.20 | Fisker | it requires you to install their malware trojan horse advertising client |
| 21:56.46 | mikma | also it keeps fisker aeway from your games |
| 21:57.53 | Fisker | it was funny that D2D ended up being huge hypocrites |
| 21:58.01 | Fisker | like nom nom nom |
| 22:00.58 | Fisker | suddenly i have a burning hatred towards Blizzard |
| 22:01.06 | Fisker | "Better go back and respec to get thunderstorm back" |
| 22:01.13 | Fisker | then on my way back |
| 22:01.17 | Fisker | "World server is down" |
| 22:01.19 | Fisker | FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU- |
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| 22:11.12 | mikma | so, you could say that blizzard... fiskered, fisker? :O |
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| 22:26.04 | Arrowmaster | "Taylor swift is headlining tonight in japan. Gonna get arrested attempting to get her number. #WorthTheJailTime" |
| 22:26.12 | Arrowmaster | the crazy people i went to highschool with...... |
| 22:26.46 | Fisker | i would've done it |
| 22:31.33 | cloudwolf | I don't like where the resistances are displayed also world server down.. |
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| 22:53.21 | Fisker | haha Dagmar |
| 22:53.24 | Fisker | read a bit of that thread |
| 22:53.28 | Fisker | my stupid-sense is tingling |
| 22:53.49 | ReAn | [15:56] <Fisker> it requires you to install their malware trojan horse advertising client <---- the fuck, i dont get any advertizements from steam |
| 22:54.19 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:54.23 | Fisker | 1. i'm trolling |
| 22:54.37 | Fisker | 2. The ads you can disable in settings are ads |
| 22:54.50 | Fisker | "also you have to install a store to play a game lollol" etc. |
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| 22:56.35 | cloudwolf | you have to have an account that you can use for a store to play wow. |
| 23:00.14 | cloudwolf | wooo stuck at 100% loaded on a loading screen thank you world server down |
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| 23:04.37 | Dagmar | Amarande: Dude, you had no idea that a Coil song was about LSD? |
| 23:04.46 | Dagmar | You have led a sheltered life, indeed. |
| 23:04.51 | Amarande | Dagmar: not that particular one, anyway |
| 23:05.02 | Amarande | one got the impression Love's Secret Domain was about it, given the initials and all |
| 23:05.16 | Amarande | but Windowpane can easily be thought of as some sort of occult thing |
| 23:05.27 | Amarande | unless you've been involved enough in durgs culture to know about acid brands heh |
| 23:05.33 | Dagmar | Well, for one thing, it's not a "brand". |
| 23:05.43 | Amarande | and to know that people sometimes put hits in their eye, which still makes me wonder about their sanity |
| 23:05.51 | Amarande | then again, I guess after you've used LSD enough you're probably not sane anymore anyway |
| 23:05.51 | Amarande | heh |
| 23:06.09 | Dagmar | Windowpane is a thinly-sliced gelatin mecium |
| 23:06.11 | Dagmar | er medium. |
| 23:06.24 | Dagmar | It's not shoving bits of blotter paper under your eyelid |
| 23:06.31 | Dagmar | That would be insane. |
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| 23:07.07 | Dagmar | People put strips of somethin rather similar in their mouths daily in the form of "breath strips" |
| 23:07.14 | Amarande | dammit, someone needs to lobby to make acid legal |
| 23:07.18 | Amarande | :) |
| 23:07.21 | Dagmar | No, they really don't. |
| 23:07.31 | Dagmar | I'm quite happy with it NOT being in the hands of Joe Average. |
| 23:07.55 | Dagmar | Joe Average barely knows fact from fiction as it is. Let's not exacerbate things by giving them reason to doubt reality. |
| 23:09.38 | Dagmar | All it would take is his cousin, "Jimmy Dumbasarock" to take some, decide he can now fly, and jump off something high landing in a school bus and killing a dozen kids or something to send us all the way back to square one. |
| 23:09.54 | Dagmar | LSD doesn't make you think you can fly. Being stupid makes you think you can fly. |
| 23:10.28 | industrial | bah I don't understand :( |
| 23:10.49 | industrial | I have self.Buffs.PostCreateIcon = function (button) if button and button.icon then button.icon:SetTexCoord(.07, .93, .07, .93) end end |
| 23:10.51 | Dagmar | Amarande: I suppose tho if you'd ever taken acid, the song wouldn't have been a mystery. it sounds like a lot of stuff generally sounds on LSD> |
| 23:10.55 | industrial | and it won't do the SetTexCoord |
| 23:10.59 | industrial | (this is with oUF) |
| 23:11.25 | Spejnar | is it really SetTex? |
| 23:11.47 | industrial | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Texture/SetTexCoord |
| 23:11.56 | industrial | I am 100% sure that the button has a .icon, I just printed button and compared the identifier to the framestack and it has a .item. |
| 23:12.44 | industrial | also, oUF code; button.icon = icon; if(icons.PostCreateIcon) then icons:PostCreateIcon(button) end |
| 23:13.02 | industrial | it happens after the icon is put onto the button |
| 23:13.22 | industrial | yet, if I put a print inside the if block it won't print |
| 23:13.30 | industrial | confused |
| 23:14.14 | industrial | haste: ^ :( |
| 23:18.19 | Fisker | slaps industrial around a bit with a large trout |
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| 23:19.56 | Cide | hi |
| 23:21.45 | Jelly|Laptop | hi |
| 23:22.13 | Cide | where is that nub Shirik |
| 23:22.24 | Cide | we need to get out of gold league |
| 23:22.39 | Fisker | slaps Cide around a bit with a large trout |
| 23:22.44 | Cide | hi Fisker |
| 23:23.06 | Fisker | slaps Cide around a bit with a large trout |
| 23:23.13 | Cide | hi Fisker |
| 23:23.44 | alestane | http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/photo.php?pid=5450810&id=720660855 |
| 23:24.49 | Jelly|Laptop | lol |
| 23:28.22 | Fisker | i came Cide |
| 23:28.29 | Cide | hi Fisker |
| 23:28.44 | Fisker | hi |
| 23:42.43 | Cide | Shirik, ping |
| 23:43.37 | ScytheBlade1 | http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/misc/ny.jpg |
| 23:43.43 | ScytheBlade1 | not bad for a standard cell phone camera |
| 23:46.00 | Cide | the best part of panoramas is how the view appears to rotate as you move the horizontal slider |
| 23:46.27 | Cide | that explanation so wasn't good |
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| 23:46.37 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 23:47.01 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm really sad that I missed the top of that building :/ |
| 23:47.10 | ScytheBlade1 | that was the only top of a building that I missed |
| 23:47.23 | ScytheBlade1 | (scroll all the way to the right) |
| 23:48.05 | Cide | yeah |
| 23:48.15 | Cide | just fill it in with PS |
| 23:48.22 | ScytheBlade1 | I tried, failed terribly |
| 23:48.24 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm bad at PS |
| 23:48.42 | Gnarfoz | content-aware fill to the rescue! |
| 23:48.49 | ScytheBlade1 | I tried that |
| 23:48.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Still bad at it :P |
| 23:48.59 | ScytheBlade1 | It fills the sky with replicas of the building windows |
| 23:49.02 | cloudwolf | scythe what town? |
| 23:49.03 | Cide | haha |
| 23:49.14 | ScytheBlade1 | that is NY/NJ |
| 23:49.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Standing in NJ |
| 23:49.19 | Cide | should use content-aware fill to fill in the sky though |
| 23:49.25 | ScytheBlade1 | that is what I did |
| 23:49.32 | ScytheBlade1 | (feel free to try...) |
| 23:49.42 | cloudwolf | cide thats only if he has that version of photoshop |
| 23:50.25 | Amarande | gah |
| 23:50.32 | Amarande | I just love it when people /w me at random asking for instance runs |
| 23:50.42 | cloudwolf | tank? |
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| 23:58.15 | Amarande | cloudwolf: healer, actually |
| 23:58.16 | Amarande | oh |
| 23:58.24 | Amarande | and someone just tried to get me to get eternal airs for them to put agi on their BoAs |
| 23:58.27 | Amarande | I'm like |
| 23:58.32 | Amarande | no that's not right, you need *essence* of air |
| 23:58.38 | Amarande | and then they're "no I wanted something else ..." |
| 23:58.43 | cloudwolf | ok uhmm.... *facedesk* i dont know where to go next after aviana's shrine i even did air jousting and have no more quests lol |
| 23:58.45 | Amarande | and I'm what, and they're ... "+26 agi" *facedesk* |
| 23:58.58 | Amarande | I believe I told the guy previously that you can't put 26 agi on heirloom weapons |
