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| 00:04.46 | Wobin | Are pandas known for their antiviral properties? |
| 00:05.18 | cloudwolf | Lol MoonWitch how good is panda antivirus? (random sorry) |
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| 00:09.32 | eidolarr | is there an easy way to get a spell's cooldown? |
| 00:11.49 | foxlit | GetSpellCooldown is easy |
| 00:13.10 | eidolarr | I mean the cooldown between casts, not the cooldown currently remaining |
| 00:13.42 | foxlit | While the spell is on cooldown, you effectively get both. |
| 00:13.47 | foxlit | While it's not, no. |
| 00:14.28 | eidolarr | how do you do it, dig around in tooltip? |
| 00:14.46 | foxlit | If you absolutely can't avoid it, yes. |
| 00:14.56 | foxlit | You could hard-code cooldowns. |
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| 00:15.12 | foxlit | But most of the time, I don't think people care what the cooldown of a spell that isn't on cooldown is. |
| 00:15.33 | alestane | You need to wash up, Shirik, You're covered in underscores. |
| 00:16.13 | eidolarr | foxlit: if you hard code them you also have to hard code checking for talents and set bonuses that modify them |
| 00:17.03 | foxlit | eidolarr: you still haven't mentioned why you need the duration :) |
| 00:17.05 | A-KO | the tooltips are hard-coded anyway |
| 00:17.07 | A-KO | fyi |
| 00:17.18 | A-KO | so when you see "3 minute cooldown" in the tooltip, it pulls that client-side |
| 00:17.28 | A-KO | there is no communication about spell cooldown until it's actually on cd |
| 00:17.49 | A-KO | think that might be changing in Cata |
| 00:17.50 | eidolarr | I'm not sure what you mean |
| 00:18.03 | eidolarr | when I take off armor to lose my set bonus right now on live, the tooltip changes |
| 00:19.01 | eidolarr | you mean that addons can't get at that info? |
| 00:19.19 | A-KO | you could try checking to see blizzard's UI and see how they did it |
| 00:19.20 | cloudwolf | hes saying the info on cooldowns is all client side |
| 00:19.29 | cloudwolf | server doesn't feed you that info until it knows you cast a spell |
| 00:19.41 | cloudwolf | I assume |
| 00:19.47 | foxlit | client usually has a pretty good idea, however. |
| 00:19.51 | foxlit | Barring sudden bugs. |
| 00:20.28 | cloudwolf | D: it looks like savory devaite delight recipe drop rate has been increased come cata |
| 00:20.32 | eidolarr | it sounds like a pain in the ass, I'll put it off and then look at their tooltip code later |
| 00:20.58 | foxlit | foxlit: eidolarr: you still haven't mentioned why you need the duration :) |
| 00:21.02 | Shirik__ | has sudden hugs |
| 00:21.15 | eidolarr | I need it for a configuration screen |
| 00:21.31 | eidolarr | for a cooldown addon |
| 00:21.49 | foxlit | suddenly throws bugs at Shirik. |
| 00:22.05 | foxlit | notes that emotes may appear out of order. |
| 00:23.48 | cloudwolf | *pokes blizzard with a stick* I think its dead.... on a related note any updates about them fixing beta keys? i assume now else there most likely would have been a post. |
| 00:24.18 | foxlit | As someone mentioned previously, it's weekend. |
| 00:24.54 | foxlit | [It may have been true then, too!] |
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| 00:25.05 | cloudwolf | :P blizzard can't take breaks! nah oh well... |
| 00:25.19 | cloudwolf | hope a fix comes monday or tuesday or soon(tm) |
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| 00:25.25 | Ressy | Blizz is in on the weekend. Beta's still being worked on on the weekends. |
| 00:27.08 | cloudwolf | Ressy but battle.net website might not be |
| 00:27.16 | cloudwolf | thats where the issue (we think) is |
| 00:31.43 | A-KO | http://www.comicsalliance.com/2010/07/22/super-heroes-vs-the-westboro-baptist-church/ |
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| 00:33.51 | cloudwolf | saw it love the bender costume |
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| 00:45.29 | cloudwolf | damnit A-KO now i want to watch futurama again |
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| 00:48.32 | Kaw_ | heyy |
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| 00:53.05 | cloudwolf | hello |
| 00:55.25 | Kaw_ | whats up |
| 00:55.37 | A-KO | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLn74edDH48 |
| 01:04.22 | Morkesh | when making fontstrings, attached to a frame, do i need to make them local aswell or will they inherit the local-ness from the parent? |
| 01:04.46 | Cide | wait WHAT? |
| 01:05.28 | Morkesh | may be a very weird question :P |
| 01:05.40 | Morkesh | but you know, local x = CreateFrame(...) so on.... |
| 01:05.52 | Cide | and then? |
| 01:05.55 | Morkesh | then when i do y = x:CreateFontString |
| 01:06.02 | Morkesh | will i need to do local y? |
| 01:06.30 | Morkesh | i can't remember who it was but i saw someone flaming hard about forgetting local so best be certain now |
| 01:07.06 | Cide | any time you do <something> = <something else> |
| 01:07.11 | Cide | <something> is a variable |
| 01:07.44 | Cide | if you haven't put "local <something>;" before, it will always be global |
| 01:08.01 | Cide | a shorthand is "local <something> = <something else>" which does 2-in-1 |
| 01:08.18 | Cide | you don't have a very strong grasp of lua so obligatory link: www.lua.org/pil |
| 01:08.19 | Cide | read it |
| 01:08.26 | Morkesh | aye aye! :) |
| 01:09.48 | Morkesh | but i do follow the whole variable thing cide, just wondering since you do <something> = <something else>:doSomething if it would "inherit" the local/global status of something else but will get on with the reading since it's bothering me alot to feel this lost |
| 01:09.56 | Wobin | http://jwz.livejournal.com/1268839.html |
| 01:10.01 | Cide | hence not a stron grasp |
| 01:10.03 | Cide | strong |
| 01:10.23 | Cide | local-ness is attached to a variable |
| 01:10.25 | Morkesh | hehe, nothing i'm affraid of admitting :) |
| 01:10.26 | Cide | it is never inherited |
| 01:10.38 | Cide | I have no idea where you got that from |
| 01:11.24 | Morkesh | haha :P good question, i think my confusion is huge because it creates objects which in my head isen't exactly the same as variables |
| 01:11.39 | Cide | the object has no concept of being local or not either |
| 01:11.40 | Cide | it simply exists |
| 01:12.12 | Cide | you can do CreateFrame() without putting it in a variable and it will still exist |
| 01:12.15 | Cide | but you can't access it |
| 01:12.43 | Morkesh | arh yes |
| 01:12.57 | Morkesh | slaps himself awake, gets coffee and tabs to lua.org |
| 01:13.15 | Morkesh | time to get the grasp of this before i spend yet another night driving myself insane over trial and error |
| 01:16.21 | Kaw_ | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info17508-KawUI.html -- guys can i haz some feedback please |
| 01:16.45 | Cide | what do you want feedback on? |
| 01:16.51 | Cide | your color conventions are strange |
| 01:16.54 | Kaw_ | ui it self |
| 01:17.10 | Cide | your huge font at the top is annoying |
| 01:17.16 | Cide | so are the 3 exclamation points |
| 01:17.24 | Cide | oh, you want feedback on the screenshots? |
| 01:17.42 | Kaw_ | yes please |
| 01:17.56 | DesertDwarf | Wow...huge, caps, and exclamations. You don't gotta shout at me! :-D |
| 01:18.01 | Cide | pixel fonts don't lend themselves well to chat |
| 01:18.41 | Cide | otherwise there's not much to say besides the fact that your ui makes room for about 20 spells |
| 01:18.55 | Cide | lots of players use double that |
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| 01:20.38 | Kaw_ | hmhm |
| 01:20.43 | Kaw_ | what do you mean by 20 spells? |
| 01:20.46 | Kaw_ | as in buffs? |
| 01:20.57 | DesertDwarf | Spells for the user to cast. |
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| 01:21.16 | Cide | your action bar fits 20 spell buttons |
| 01:21.38 | Kaw_ | fits a 100 if you want to |
| 01:21.50 | Cide | hard to comment on how that looks though |
| 01:22.00 | Kaw_ | its personal preference |
| 01:22.12 | Kaw_ | dominos is probably the easiest out of the ui to edit |
| 01:22.20 | Kaw_ | but maybe the hardest to be looking good |
| 01:27.59 | Kaw_ | cide im really wondering how your ui looks like :) |
| 01:28.25 | MentalPower | does anyone know something like gotoassist.com, but cheaper? |
| 01:28.27 | Cide | why? |
| 01:28.34 | MentalPower | $70 is a bit much |
| 01:28.50 | Cide | not to you |
| 01:28.57 | Cide | no clue about that, sorry |
| 01:29.20 | DesertDwarf | MentalPower: I use logmein.com. They have a free version. If you need more features, you can upgrade. |
| 01:29.50 | Kaw_ | mentalpower try http://teamviewer.com |
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| 01:33.30 | Cide | this just in: python is slower at printing than c++ |
| 01:34.30 | Borgleader | This is news/surprising because? |
| 01:34.34 | Slaren | no way! |
| 01:34.42 | Cide | not at all |
| 01:34.48 | Cide | I just happened to witness it first-hand just now |
| 01:34.51 | Borgleader | Oh |
| 01:34.52 | Cide | it was a remarkable difference |
| 01:35.55 | Dagmar | I thought RDP was more or less free |
| 01:36.08 | MentalPower | it is, but its not for my PCs |
| 01:36.18 | MentalPower | its for remote client support |
| 01:36.40 | MentalPower | and not all of them are PCs either |
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| 01:37.02 | Dagmar | If you want cross-platform support, I think you |
| 01:37.05 | Dagmar | 're spending money |
| 01:38.05 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:38.09 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:38.29 | MentalPower | I know, I just think $70/month for a few calls here and there is a bit much. I think I'll just turn off renewals and go for the paygo option |
| 01:38.40 | Dagmar | Sounds like a plan |
| 01:38.50 | Dagmar | (one that will require less legal counsel than mine) |
| 01:39.49 | cloudwolf | Dagmar i was about to say badumtshhh |
| 01:39.49 | Slaren | did you check TeamViewer? they have a lifetime license |
| 01:39.50 | A-KO | MentalPower: Windows 7 has a pretty nifty remote assist option that bypasses firewalls.....but otherwise, there's showmypc.com, logmein.com |
| 01:39.51 | cloudwolf | >.> |
| 01:41.13 | Dagmar | cloudwolf: Frankly, I think my idea was pure awesome. 1. Wait for snowfall. 2. Build snowman in neighbor's yard in the middle of the night, with human skeleton inside. 3. Never go back. |
| 01:41.49 | cloudwolf | lol |
| 01:42.19 | MentalPower | Slaren: yeah, for $700, I don't have that kind of cash ATM |
| 01:43.20 | cloudwolf | Also dagmar i woudln't want to be your neighbor :D |
| 01:44.47 | cloudwolf | Dagmar you should also make a snow dog with a skeleton in it too >>> |
| 01:45.06 | Dagmar | I was only offered a human skeleton |
| 01:50.13 | Thunder_Child | MentalPower: you can alos try http://www.mikogo.com/ though it is not the most intuitive software out there |
| 01:50.37 | Thunder_Child | though the company i work for uses logmein just fine for remote support |
| 01:51.01 | Thunder_Child | also* |
| 01:52.32 | MoonWitch | Dagmar, I want to be your neighbor :D |
| 01:53.00 | MoonWitch | you did mean to use a real human skeleton right? |
| 01:53.06 | MoonWitch | And I could keep it, right? |
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| 01:55.01 | cloudwolf | do i want to know what your gonna do with a skeleton moonwitch? |
| 01:55.14 | MoonWitch | set it up in my living room |
| 01:55.28 | MoonWitch | it would look awesome |
| 01:55.32 | MoonWitch | if it's boiled properly |
| 01:55.40 | MoonWitch | don't care for the stench of decomp much |
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| 01:59.56 | cloudwolf | .... your scaring me MoonWitch lol |
| 02:00.18 | alestane | drinks. |
| 02:00.38 | alestane | Clearly that has to be added to the rules. |
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| 02:03.18 | MoonWitch | alestane: about the corpses? |
| 02:04.15 | alestane | No, about MoonWitch scaring people. |
| 02:04.25 | MoonWitch | cloudwolf, I'm weird, I've always admitted that. |
| 02:04.30 | MoonWitch | that I can't scare ppl? |
| 02:04.58 | alestane | I think you were recovering from surgery when Lunessa proposed the #WoWUIDev drinking game. |
| 02:05.18 | MoonWitch | ah yes |
| 02:05.25 | MoonWitch | I'll lose it anyway |
| 02:05.36 | MoonWitch | 200cc is all I got to drink and eat. |
| 02:05.51 | MentalPower | what are the rules of the drinking game? |
| 02:05.57 | MoonWitch | one beer will now get me drunk as a skunk, while before it was 5 vodkas |
| 02:07.18 | alestane | Lunessa probably remembers them better than I do, MentalPower. |
| 02:07.42 | MentalPower | let me guess, you were drunk when you were devising the rules :P |
| 02:07.47 | alestane | I do remember: Drink when Lopeppeppy snarks. |
| 02:08.01 | alestane | And I think "when Fisker rages" might have been on there. |
| 02:09.09 | alestane | No, but I think I was coding, so I was distracted. They were his idea anyway. |
| 02:09.32 | MentalPower | peppy would be one to propose a drinking game |
| 02:12.35 | alestane | Not right now she wouldn't, she's still on the yeast-free diet. |
| 02:22.52 | cloudwolf | lol us.battle.net is slow at logging me in right now |
| 02:23.31 | Ressy | My friend can't log in at all. |
| 02:23.39 | Ressy | thinks it crashed |
| 02:23.42 | cloudwolf | nah |
| 02:23.48 | cloudwolf | it took 2 minutes |
| 02:23.52 | cloudwolf | to get past account name and pw |
| 02:23.57 | cloudwolf | so that i could put in my authenticator code |
| 02:24.05 | cloudwolf | now its just kinda sitting there gonna error at me cus the code expired lol |
| 02:24.55 | bleeter | HUZZAH! htt://twitpic.com28qfdd EAT IT FOLKS |
| 02:24.58 | bleeter | bah |
| 02:25.06 | MentalPower | ~fail bleeter |
| 02:25.07 | purl | bleeter, you Fail! |
| 02:25.07 | bleeter | http://twitpic.com/28qfdd |
| 02:25.25 | cloudwolf | lol collectors edition |
| 02:25.28 | bleeter | MentalPower: I don't have paste here, was typing by hand. Been trying to get an unboxing pic for a major tech publication here |
| 02:25.32 | Mr_Rabies | is that sc2 bleeter |
| 02:25.34 | bleeter | but the carpal tunnel's killed me |
| 02:25.41 | bleeter | Mr_Rabies: yes, yes it is |
| 02:25.44 | cloudwolf | bleeter sc2 for melee or for custom maps? |
| 02:25.54 | Mr_Rabies | i thought australia usually got games right around when the sequel came out, or the next ice ace |
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| 02:25.58 | Mr_Rabies | age* |
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| 02:26.01 | Mr_Rabies | whichever comes first |
| 02:26.19 | bleeter | Mr_Rabies: Blizz seem to be using a Singapore distributor for SC2 |
| 02:26.28 | bleeter | an indy distrubtor, they've licensed the Blizz name to |
| 02:26.37 | bleeter | in other words, it's not going to get fucked up in this region again |
| 02:26.55 | Mr_Rabies | i hope they do the same for cata |
| 02:27.44 | cloudwolf | Bleeter melee>custom or custom>melee |
| 02:29.54 | bleeter | warning to those with poor wrists, the art book for SC2:CE is BLOODY heavy |
| 02:30.11 | Cide | u has? |
| 02:30.26 | Cide | i can has tu? |
| 02:30.46 | cloudwolf | bleeeter ansah me damnit! do you prefer melee or custom games? |
| 02:30.59 | Cide | melee of course |
| 02:31.29 | cloudwolf | blergh i hated wc3's melee not sure about sc2 i played the beta it was alright ihad mroe fun playing custom maps |
| 02:31.51 | cloudwolf | also Ressy error 503 on us.battle.net |
| 02:32.01 | Ressy | yup. battle.net crashed |
| 02:32.13 | cloudwolf | The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later. |
| 02:32.15 | cloudwolf | lol |
| 02:32.24 | cloudwolf | you know that makes me hope its not a crash but that they are fixing the beta key problem |
| 02:32.39 | cloudwolf | But im just impatient :D |
| 02:33.12 | cloudwolf | and its back up lol |
| 02:33.19 | cloudwolf | and nope that was just a capacity crash |
| 02:37.51 | Borgleader | I just hope bnet doesnt die when SC2 is out, that would suck |
| 02:38.21 | bleeter | can't even log into the WoW forums to gloat #blizzfail ;) |
| 02:39.04 | Borgleader | Being new to addon scripting sux, i keep getting problems with the easiest of tasks xD oh well.. |
| 02:40.31 | Ressy | I'm still trolling Tech Support as usual. Glad it hasn't logged me out. |
| 02:41.47 | cloudwolf | heh |
| 02:42.59 | Borgleader | im in your support, trolling your techs? |
| 02:43.16 | Ressy | hehe. :) |
| 02:43.33 | Ressy | Its pretty much, you're not allowed to troll tech support, unless you're a regular poster, and manage to help someone while trolling |
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| 02:47.34 | Borgleader | I've been looking through http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api and I cant seem to find the magical open/close character (quest, achievements, ...) panel stuff :S |
| 02:47.44 | Borgleader | <-- very new -.-; |
| 02:47.57 | Cide | they're not part of the api |
| 02:48.00 | Cide | they're part of the widget api |
| 02:48.05 | Cide | i.e. SomeFrameName:Show() |
| 02:48.09 | Cide | SomeFrameName:Hide() |
| 02:48.27 | Cide | I believe the character frame is called CharacterFrame |
| 02:48.37 | Cide | so /run CharacterFrame:Show() |
| 02:48.45 | Cide | in wow |
| 02:48.54 | Borgleader | Ohhh I see :) |
| 02:49.38 | Borgleader | so it basically works the same way as if id want to show/hide the minimap cluster or the playerframe |
| 02:49.52 | Cide | precisely |
| 02:50.13 | Cide | the two (three) are identical |
| 02:50.53 | Borgleader | Ahh tyvm :) |
| 02:54.15 | Motig | that's funny if you use that line to open the character frame |
| 02:54.18 | Motig | it won't close with escape |
| 03:00.05 | bleeter | wait, I can't even install it until the 27th? |
| 03:00.12 | Cide | newp |
| 03:00.57 | MentalPower | bleeter: lol |
| 03:01.08 | MentalPower | it phones home to see if it can install? |
| 03:01.25 | Cide | yep |
| 03:01.28 | Cide | and the mpq is encrypted |
| 03:01.31 | bleeter | dunno, but it's whinging it's not the 27th |
| 03:01.35 | MentalPower | rofl! |
| 03:02.09 | MentalPower | change the local date (I don't think it'll work) |
| 03:02.36 | Slaren | you may want to use ShowUIPanel() instead of just :Showing() it to show one of the default ui panels |
| 03:03.01 | Cide | doesn't work, MentalPower |
| 03:03.15 | Cide | maybe if I unplug my connection but not gonna do that |
| 03:03.17 | Motig | I thought SC2 was released today |
| 03:03.18 | Motig | :\ |
| 03:03.19 | MentalPower | Cide: I wasn't betting on it, but it doesn't hurt to try |
| 03:03.24 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 03:03.25 | Cide | you thought wrong |
| 03:03.31 | Motig | wow :( |
| 03:03.39 | Xinhuan | once i saw you can't install it before 27th, i figured i'll rather not download it at all |
| 03:03.42 | Xinhuan | just install from DVD |
| 03:03.46 | Motig | Well I hope the company I ordered it at ships it today then |
| 03:04.18 | Xyphoid | 'Our intention is to make it available within 60 days of launch -- at that time, players with a copy of the Southeast Asia/Australia/New Zealand version of StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty will automatically gain the option to download the North American version of the game client through Battle.net®. ' |
| 03:04.20 | Xyphoid | yeurgh |
| 03:04.38 | Xinhuan | that is old news, but is awesome news for me ^^ |
| 03:04.52 | Xyphoid | i'm hoping that doesn't mean 'download the entire game again' |
| 03:05.03 | Cide | probably does |
| 03:05.08 | Cide | but during the beta changing region was trivial |
| 03:05.08 | Xinhuan | the "how it will work" part isn't finalized |
| 03:05.11 | Xinhuan | so nobody knows |
| 03:05.16 | Cide | you just needed to download a small file and use a batch script |
| 03:05.25 | Cide | but I don't know if there will be an official solution |
| 03:05.33 | Dagmar | Odds are high the language stuff is in it's own file or two |
| 03:05.45 | Cide | that's what you had to download, yep |
| 03:06.04 | Cide | tenth time today that I spell "add_property" "add_propery" |
| 03:06.05 | Cide | fuck me |
| 03:10.01 | MoonWitch | ok |
| 03:10.05 | MoonWitch | bend over Cide |
| 03:10.36 | Cide | I actually convinced a friend of mine to name her wow character Bentovah |
| 03:10.42 | MoonWitch | omg lol |
| 03:10.55 | Cide | she had inherited a character named Bent previously |
| 03:11.14 | MoonWitch | (I couldn't resist that comment btw) |
| 03:11.31 | Cide | couldn't care less! |
| 03:11.34 | MoonWitch | great! |
| 03:11.57 | MoonWitch | oh yrs, I lost a total of 50lbs in a month now :) |
| 03:12.01 | MoonWitch | yes* |
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| 03:21.10 | Cide | that's awesome |
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| 03:25.43 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/jejeje.jpg |
| 03:25.53 | cloudwolf | MoonWitch O.o how |
| 03:26.16 | cloudwolf | lol mikma |
| 03:26.23 | Ressy | safely? Bypass surgery? |
| 03:30.18 | bleeter | Cide: any idea if the 'check back home' on SC2 is region locked or going to Blizz HQ |
| 03:30.34 | Cide | no idea |
| 03:30.36 | bleeter | Cide: people over here wondering if the .sg stuff will open at .sg time |
| 03:30.43 | bleeter | or if we'll have to wait for PST |
| 03:30.46 | bleeter | rightio |
| 03:30.47 | Cide | I think it's PST |
| 03:30.50 | Cide | but I'm not sure |
| 03:30.59 | eidolarr | ""I think these languages are too hard to use, too subtle, too intricate. They're far too verbose and their subtlety, intricacy and verbosity seem to be increasing over time," Pike said. "They're oversold, and used far too broadly."" (Rob Pike on C++, Java) |
| 03:30.59 | Cide | it unlocks 10am PST in any case |
| 03:31.19 | bleeter | There'll be a bunch of angry gamers in SEA and EU if we have to wait for PST.... ;) |
| 03:33.33 | bleeter | then again, .sg are doing a 'big' midnight launch... can't imagine they'd do that if one won't be able to install then |
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| 03:41.21 | cloudwolf | Cide are you learning c++ i heard you complain about it today |
| 03:41.24 | cloudwolf | quite a few times |
| 03:41.33 | Cide | yep |
| 03:42.07 | cloudwolf | lol i just picked up 2 text books for $1 on it today. c++ for dummies (hell it was $.50) and C++ black book also $.50 |
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| 03:47.06 | Cide | that's not bad |
| 03:47.14 | Cide | I know most of c++ syntax, just not best practices |
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| 03:49.43 | cloudwolf | I don't know any c++ so i got this as a ground works. |
| 03:51.51 | Arrowmaster | i would pickup some books on learning C but good technical books tend to be really expensive |
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| 03:56.43 | abra | hi |
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| 03:57.22 | bluspacecow | \o |
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| 03:57.53 | cloudwolf | Wb abra |
| 03:58.02 | cloudwolf | cadbra can't be found right now leave your alakazam after the beep |
| 03:58.44 | abra | if ive stored a frame in a table (table[1] = frame) then shouldnt table[1]:SetText work? am i doing that incorrectly? |
| 04:01.30 | abra | hmm. |
| 04:01.58 | cloudwolf | have you tested it abra? |
| 04:02.14 | cloudwolf | also don't forget you need text strings to even have set text work |
| 04:02.20 | bluspacecow | write some test code ? |
| 04:02.37 | abra | yeah, i mean im not even using SetText.. but it was the first function that came to mind |
| 04:03.02 | abra | yeah i have code for it.. ill pastey.. i cant figure it out. |
| 04:03.25 | bluspacecow | kk :) |
| 04:04.11 | Dagmar | Holy crap |
| 04:04.22 | Dagmar | Cory Doctorow's got a deal with the devil or something |
| 04:04.22 | DesertDwarf | I've combined two addons and need one deleted on WoWInterface. Do I ask Dolby or can Cairenn also help me out? |
| 04:04.32 | abra | http://paste.wowace.com/2263/ |
| 04:04.39 | dolby | i can help |
| 04:04.43 | dolby | link? |
| 04:05.20 | Dagmar | Wall of text warning: http://craphound.com/ftw/Cory_Doctorow_-_For_the_Win.htm <-- but seriously, tell me this guy isn't only about five, maybe ten years ahead of reality (goes back to reading) |
| 04:06.39 | abra | so the answer initially is yes, it should work, you're doing something else wrong, douchebag... right? lol |
| 04:08.00 | Dagmar | Id' say the problem is that someone picked a non-generic name. |
| 04:08.07 | abra | lol |
| 04:08.29 | abra | i dont follow. |
| 04:08.31 | Dagmar | Name your addon something like "Steve" or "Wafflecones" that has no inherent meaning, and if you decide it suck and want to write something else, no one's going to notice. |
| 04:08.51 | bluspacecow | @Desertdwarf send either of them a PM :) |
| 04:08.54 | Dagmar | You just hollow out the corpse of your last go, and bump the SVN numbers up a bit. :) |
| 04:09.05 | abra | dag are you talking to me? |
| 04:09.11 | Dagmar | Yes. |
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| 04:09.20 | Dagmar | ...and Dwarf |
| 04:09.36 | abra | are you speaking in terms of keeping my fail addon under wraps before i get hazed eternally? |
| 04:10.03 | Dagmar | There's two advantages to this... 1. no admins need be bothered to remove the old project, and 2) there's not much chance the old project can haunt you because searches for it will turn up the new project like nothing ever happene |
| 04:10.05 | Dagmar | d |
| 04:10.51 | Dagmar | abra: No man I'm still trying to decide the scope of what I'm coding. I've no room to criticize someone else because all I've got is a fsckload of abstracted functions that at least pass their unit tests |
| 04:11.16 | Dagmar | WHat I've written so far functions as follows: "No errors on loading == good" |
| 04:11.26 | Dagmar | :) |
| 04:12.14 | bluspacecow | hmm |
| 04:12.18 | abra | haha. ok. well ive learned that im not retarded.. the things im doing are conceptually more advanced than a hello world at least.. and my functions are getting to be pretty clean |
| 04:12.20 | Dagmar | There's some aspects to scoping and instancing in lua that I'm fiddling with that I swear were probably invented by aliens. |
| 04:12.35 | bluspacecow | meterFrames[i]:SetMinMaxValues(0, meterLeadAmt) |
| 04:12.39 | abra | well, lua is breakfast to me. i have no other coding jumbling up my undrestanding. |
| 04:12.41 | abra | or lack of |
| 04:12.51 | bluspacecow | what happens if meterLeadAmt is less then 0 ? |
| 04:13.17 | abra | if meterLeadAmt == nil then print("no amounts"); return end |
| 04:13.21 | abra | that line is at the top.. |
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| 04:13.38 | abra | theres no chance of it being anything but nil or >0 |
| 04:13.44 | bluspacecow | not sure you could try doing a print of meterLeadAmt before running that particular line |
| 04:14.03 | abra | yeah. i presume its going to return table 2384732462783623874623 |
| 04:14.05 | abra | ill try |
| 04:14.06 | Dagmar | bluspacecow++ |
| 04:14.12 | Torhal | bluspacecow: In response to your "Do you see the illogic in that statement and in your assumptions ?" I almost responded with "THE CONSEQUENCES WILL NEVER BE THE SAME!" but decided I'd rather not troll the WoWI forums. :D |
| 04:14.21 | Dagmar | If you knew for sure the possible values at that entrypoint you woulnd't be having the bug hunt |
| 04:14.32 | Dagmar | Torhal: s/THE// |
| 04:14.39 | abra | what dag? |
| 04:14.43 | Torhal | Dagmar: True. |
| 04:14.48 | abra | i do know for sure. |
| 04:15.46 | bluspacecow | abra your assuming (meterLeadAmt == nil) will not return a negative value .. if it is it will fail this test and the line you are having problems with will throw up accessing a nil value |
| 04:15.56 | bluspacecow | thats what im guessing |
| 04:16.04 | bluspacecow | bash -z ftw |
| 04:16.21 | abra | there can never be negative dmg. |
| 04:16.24 | abra | or healing |
| 04:16.30 | bluspacecow | >_> i mean bash -x |
| 04:17.21 | bluspacecow | where is tableSorted[1].value defined ? |
| 04:19.26 | abra | the table is returned via the getOrder function call near the top of this funtion |
| 04:19.33 | abra | its properly formatted |
| 04:19.37 | abra | ok |
| 04:19.52 | abra | so i = 1 and meterFrames[i] = nil. |
| 04:19.54 | abra | meterFrames[i] = playerMeter |
| 04:19.56 | Torhal | abra: BTW: frame:SetText() does nothing if the frame has no FontString |
| 04:19.59 | abra | so somewhre in ther eis the problem |
| 04:20.18 | abra | torhal.. i already have text in the frame from the first half of the if else. |
| 04:20.22 | Torhal | Ah |
| 04:20.59 | abra | im just creating a new status bar if the player isnt currently represented on one.. adjusting some of the values of the status bar frame if they ALREADY are being show in a bar. |
| 04:21.18 | abra | but im keeping the frames on a table |
| 04:21.37 | abra | AH |
| 04:21.47 | abra | meterFrames needs to be upvalues. DUH |
| 04:22.01 | Torhal | Huh? |
| 04:22.13 | abra | it needs to be declared outside this funcion |
| 04:22.25 | Torhal | Oh, yeah - otherwise you're overwriting with a new table each time |
| 04:22.43 | Torhal | I didn't know what was going on because your paste doesn't actualy indicate that the code is inside of a function |
| 04:22.46 | Torhal | Looks like the main chunk |
| 04:23.17 | abra | actually it does.. i have an upvalue table declared then the function begins. |
| 04:23.39 | Torhal | //which I failed to notice due to the lack of indentation |
| 04:23.45 | abra | haha |
| 04:24.01 | abra | so what would be your idea of proper indentation in this case? |
| 04:24.06 | abra | on the upvale? |
| 04:24.08 | abra | value? |
| 04:24.26 | Torhal | Indent everything declared after the function declaration - that indicates "this belongs inside the function" |
| 04:24.58 | abra | oh right |
| 04:24.59 | Torhal | The way it's written now I glanced at it and didn't even see the function declaration because the variables inside of it are on the same indentation level |
| 04:25.04 | abra | ok |
| 04:25.06 | abra | heard |
| 04:25.39 | bluspacecow | @Torhal "As far as I know, you still can't sell your addon - but not because you don't own it (you do). It's because you've signed the ToU, which means you've legally agreed not to, and Blizzard can take legal action to stop you." |
| 04:25.45 | bluspacecow | *sigh* |
| 04:25.53 | bluspacecow | *furiously types up rebuttal* |
| 04:28.01 | Torhal | bluspacecow: Just look at it this way: This is coming from a guy who updated two AddOns that hadn't been touched since 2008 just to get a beta key. Is he worth your time and effort? |
| 04:28.12 | bluspacecow | . |
| 04:28.14 | bluspacecow | yes |
| 04:28.29 | Torhal | If this was two years ago, I'd be screaming "WoWMatrix shill!" |
| 04:28.31 | Torhal | Heh |
| 04:28.39 | bluspacecow | schooling noobs is a sacred duty |
| 04:28.49 | abra | dammit. it never ends, does it. |
| 04:28.52 | Torhal | At this point he smells more like a troll. |
| 04:28.58 | cbreak | just don't sign the ToU |
| 04:29.30 | bluspacecow | that was my first point - many addon authors dont actually have active wow subscriptions therefore cant be bound to an agreement they never signed |
| 04:29.50 | cbreak | or give the addon to someone else to sell |
| 04:29.55 | Dagmar | Not sacred duty... self-defense |
| 04:29.56 | abra | but does it have to be active to be legal? |
| 04:30.06 | Dagmar | If clue doesn't propagate, bad code _will_ |
| 04:30.08 | Wobin | wouldn't using a beta key activate it? |
| 04:30.16 | abra | i mean, i may not work for TI anymore, but that doesnt mean my non disclosure is void |
| 04:30.31 | Torhal | abra: Also, #table always returns a number when used on an indexed table. Your check for nil is unnecessary. |
| 04:30.39 | Wobin | Personally, I'd just get Blizzard to issue the key, then after they download all the patches, retract it |
| 04:30.40 | cbreak | you can give addons away |
| 04:31.00 | abra | well, it was initially a check to see if the table exists at all, but now, you're right. ill take itout |
| 04:31.01 | Wobin | cause it's much more entertaining that way |
| 04:31.08 | cbreak | and others can sell it |
| 04:31.20 | cbreak | because others might never have had any contact with bliz contracts |
| 04:31.28 | abra | cbreak..criminal! |
| 04:31.30 | abra | i love it |
| 04:31.42 | cbreak | how so? |
| 04:32.00 | abra | you tell me. you're the one with the criminal mind. |
| 04:32.04 | abra | good stuff. |
| 04:32.25 | bluspacecow | hey cog does /framestack still work in beta ? |
| 04:32.42 | bluspacecow | wait |
| 04:32.47 | bluspacecow | cbreak is not cog is it |
| 04:33.59 | Torhal | Nein |
| 04:34.06 | bluspacecow | :( |
| 04:34.09 | bluspacecow | I needs sleeps |
| 04:34.12 | bluspacecow | zzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 04:34.17 | bluspacecow | *sleeps on Torhal* |
| 04:34.35 | Torhal | Quite a feat |
| 04:36.14 | Xinhuan | bleeter, the "midnight launch" in singapore is actually at roughly noon here (in singapore) |
| 04:36.29 | Xinhuan | the timing will basically coincide with EST's midnight |
| 04:36.36 | Xinhuan | roughly anyway |
| 04:37.19 | abra | how do i access the fontstring of a frame that is stored in a table? table[i].fonstring:SetText and table[i]:fontstring:SetText arent working.. i feel like ive done it just this way in the past. |
| 04:37.23 | Xinhuan | so there's no need to wait |
| 04:37.57 | Xinhuan | abra that depends on how the fontstring is created and whether it has a name |
| 04:37.59 | bluspacecow | @xinhuan are you going to queue up for it ? |
| 04:38.05 | abra | it does |
| 04:38.05 | abra | t |
| 04:38.05 | Xinhuan | bluspacecow, perhaps |
| 04:38.15 | Xinhuan | but it will mean i need to take half day off work |
| 04:38.22 | abra | t=fontstring blah blah |
| 04:38.28 | bluspacecow | anyone else on cata beta ? |
| 04:38.30 | Xinhuan | huh abra? |
| 04:38.31 | Ressy | ya |
| 04:38.32 | Torhal | abra: local t= playerMeter:CreateFontString(nil, "ARTWORK") |
| 04:38.37 | abra | local t= playerMeter:CreateFontString(nil, "ARTWORK") |
| 04:38.38 | Torhal | playerMeter.string = t |
| 04:38.55 | bluspacecow | your installer files ... Installer Tome 2.mpq |
| 04:38.59 | Torhal | Frames are merely tables with special Blizzard dust sprinkled on them |
| 04:39.00 | bluspacecow | did it finish downloading |
| 04:39.10 | Ressy | Months ago, yes. |
| 04:39.12 | Xinhuan | i don't remember bluspacecow |
| 04:39.21 | bluspacecow | mine didn't ...was just Installer Tome 2.mpq.part |
| 04:39.31 | abra | but torhal how do i do that with an indexed table? where i have to do table[i] |
| 04:39.33 | Torhal | So after you do that you can reference meterFrames[i].string |
| 04:39.34 | Ressy | Did you run the installer as admin? |
| 04:39.43 | abra | oh |
| 04:39.44 | abra | i see |
| 04:39.45 | abra | thx man |
| 04:39.48 | Torhal | np |
| 04:39.52 | bluspacecow | i've reinstalled several times over the last few days and I think that's why my beta install is not working well |
| 04:39.58 | bluspacecow | I r on a Mac :) |
| 04:40.28 | bluspacecow | Ressy = Can you look insider your Cat Beta folder in your Data folder and tell me if you have any "SoundCache.MPQ" files |
| 04:40.34 | bluspacecow | or any .writeback files |
| 04:40.49 | Ressy | no writeback |
| 04:40.52 | Ressy | soundcache.mpq yes |
| 04:41.18 | bluspacecow | you should have 2 one in Data and one in Dat ->enUS (or enGB or w/e your locale is) |
| 04:41.24 | bluspacecow | how big is it ? |
| 04:41.55 | Ressy | 85 byes in Data |
| 04:42.09 | Ressy | 1kb in enUS |
| 04:42.39 | bluspacecow | i see i appear to be missing some data then |
| 04:42.56 | Cide | Antiarc, ping |
| 04:43.00 | bluspacecow | not sure if my other MPQS are also missing data tho >_> ... How big is your Data folder in total ? |
| 04:43.22 | Ressy | File Properties says 21.7GB |
| 04:44.38 | bluspacecow | hmm mines bigger ... i might be looking at a corrupt install here... then again it could be OS differences ... |
| 04:44.56 | Ressy | if you have .part, its corrupt. |
| 04:45.05 | Ressy | .part is left over if things didn't finish installing correctly. |
| 04:45.13 | bluspacecow | it's just puzzling that it wasn't filling out that last bit |
| 04:45.18 | Ressy | they're supposed to be deleted when the .mpq is finishing writing |
| 04:46.15 | bluspacecow | manifest is here = http://us.version.worldofwarcraft.com/streaming/installer/11927-4.0.0-2/enUS/Installer.UNIV.2.mfil |
| 04:46.31 | bluspacecow | according to it is missing 50 MB of data out of Installer Tome 2.mpq |
| 04:50.20 | bluspacecow | Playtime for 18 Jul 2010 - 24 Jul 2010 Total Minutes:83 min |
| 04:50.45 | bluspacecow | lolz playtime report from parental controls for the past few days for me :) |
| 04:51.06 | Ressy | that much huh? I stopped playing live. |
| 04:52.22 | bluspacecow | it would be more but the beta installer lags me out a lot :( |
| 05:03.03 | Antiarc | Cide: pong |
| 05:03.40 | Cide | nvm, solved it :) |
| 05:03.49 | bluspacecow | yay ! |
| 05:03.50 | Cide | didn't find a way to change the bg color of the google charts stuff |
| 05:03.52 | Cide | but found it |
| 05:03.59 | Antiarc | Oh, heh, yay |
| 05:04.46 | Cide | except not for line charts? |
| 05:04.49 | Cide | what kind of shit is that |
| 05:04.58 | Cide | worked fine for pie charts |
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| 05:11.51 | bluspacecow | >_> |
| 05:11.59 | bluspacecow | its raining |
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| 05:13.00 | Shadowed | Is it actually raining, or are you about to burst out into song about it raining men |
| 05:13.13 | bluspacecow | .... |
| 05:13.22 | bluspacecow | i would if i wasn't so sleepy |
| 05:13.36 | bluspacecow | no its actually raining outside and i just noticed |
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| 05:24.42 | bluspacecow | kk bai guys gonna go play in the rain |
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| 05:44.51 | Shirik | ok |
| 05:44.53 | Shirik | I have returned |
| 05:44.54 | Shirik | hai Cide |
| 05:44.57 | Cide | welcome back |
| 05:57.43 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 05:57.46 | Fisker | i'm a sick person |
| 05:57.52 | Shirik | I am aware of this |
| 05:59.01 | Fisker | how did you find out? |
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| 06:56.11 | Arrowmaster | ok i know news headlines havent actually been written to make sense in years, they are 100% SEO but seriously what the fuck http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2010/07/25/prisoners-hitmen.html |
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| 07:35.02 | Torhal | Shh...he's here. |
| 07:36.03 | Fisker | slaps Torhal around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:37.06 | Torhal | harpoons Fisker. |
| 07:42.01 | Fisker | Torhal |
| 07:42.02 | Fisker | you suck |
| 07:44.57 | abra | haha |
| 07:45.02 | abra | oh you guys |
| 07:46.41 | Torhal | Fisker: No, you're the one with the sucking chest wound. |
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| 07:54.19 | zenzio_ | might have been already linked: http://www.27bslash6.com/missy.html |
| 07:55.58 | A-KO | that's terrible |
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| 07:56.32 | Wobin | I dunno about him |
| 07:56.36 | Wobin | he's funny, but he's terrible |
| 07:57.00 | Wobin | http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com is my favourite blogger |
| 07:57.09 | zenzio_ | I choose to believe it's more for entertainment than from sheer personality |
| 07:57.25 | Wobin | http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/06/this-is-why-ill-never-be-adult.html |
| 07:57.48 | Wobin | I totally did the "CLEAN -ALL- THE THINGS" this weekend |
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| 07:58.49 | mikma | wobin: did you remember to change your underwear? |
| 07:59.01 | Wobin | I did! |
| 07:59.10 | Wobin | (am I going to get hit by a bus now?) |
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| 08:03.09 | industrial | does tryhaskell.org |
| 08:03.21 | industrial | let x = foo in bar <-- wtf. |
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| 08:54.47 | abra | if youre inside an dif/then, inside a for loop, inside a function and you put a return.. there is no need for a break following the return, correct? return shoots it immediately out of the function.. |
| 08:54.56 | abra | dif/then = if/then |
| 08:55.28 | zenzio_ | doesn't matter where you are, a return cancels all subsequent code |
| 08:55.38 | abra | word. thx |
| 08:55.54 | abra | it also changes the available syntax following it. |
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| 09:23.52 | cbreak_work | return does not change any syntax. |
| 09:24.32 | Xinhuan | depends on language |
| 09:24.57 | Xinhuan | some language forces you to have a return statement at the end of a block |
| 09:25.00 | Wobin | Cairenn|afk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2PM0om2El8&feature=player_embedded |
| 09:25.03 | Xinhuan | (i.e no dead code) |
| 09:26.43 | Cide | wonder how this is gonna go |
| 09:27.26 | cbreak_work | Xinhuan: and in some languages, return does not prevent following code to execute. |
| 09:27.28 | Cide | Xinhuan, which is stupid given that you can do if ( 1 ) { return; } |
| 09:27.33 | cbreak_work | but we're talking about lua :) |
| 09:29.29 | Xinhuan | yeah cide |
| 09:29.33 | Xinhuan | or simply { return; } |
| 09:30.53 | Cide | yeah |
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| 09:52.34 | zenzio_ | cbreak_work: I'm intrigued, do you have an example of a language where "return" does not prevent following code rfom running? |
| 09:52.48 | cbreak_work | Sparc Assembler. |
| 09:53.02 | cbreak_work | it's jumps have a delay of one instruction, so the next is always executed |
| 09:53.04 | Fisker | zenzio_men |
| 09:53.10 | zenzio_ | hm, interesting |
| 09:53.29 | Cide | what kind of shit is that? |
| 09:53.48 | Cide | what happens when you do |
| 09:54.40 | Cide | jmp 0x01; // 0x01 |
| 09:55.00 | Cide | err the latter is 0x02 obviously |
| 09:55.09 | cbreak_work | it jumps twice. |
| 09:55.22 | Cide | to the same jump instruction |
| 09:55.34 | Cide | it jumps exponentially into infinity!!! |
| 09:56.11 | cbreak_work | if you don't like it, you can put a nop into the branch delay slot |
| 09:56.19 | Cide | who cares about liking |
| 09:56.24 | Cide | I want to know how fast that would blow shit up |
| 09:57.58 | zenzio_ | it could execute an infinite loop in 30 seconds |
| 09:58.24 | cbreak_work | not fast. |
| 09:58.26 | Cide | that's slow |
| 09:58.39 | Cide | why not fast? |
| 09:58.49 | Cide | (yes, I realize it's just a regular infinite loop) |
| 09:58.52 | cbreak_work | sparc CPUs are not from intel |
| 09:58.56 | cbreak_work | they don't blow up |
| 09:59.05 | Cide | oh snap |
| 09:59.43 | zenzio_ | crap, I completely misremembered the quote... it was "under 2 seconds" :-| |
| 10:00.22 | Fisker | excutes a specific op code on cbreak_work, making him hang |
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| 10:01.37 | Cide | executes the BRICK opcode on Fisker |
| 10:03.21 | zenzio_ | damnit, why did I got o uncyclopedia again... it's like wikipedia, only more amusing |
| 10:03.27 | zenzio_ | *go to |
| 10:04.13 | Cide | wish me luck guys |
| 10:04.31 | industrial | Goodluck Cide! |
| 10:04.45 | Fisker | luck for what? |
| 10:04.45 | zenzio_ | good luck in your future endeavours |
| 10:04.48 | Cide | I've basically managed to turn my day and night rhythm upside down |
| 10:04.55 | Fisker | yeah that sucks |
| 10:04.57 | Cide | it's now noon |
| 10:04.59 | Fisker | SC2 sure won't help that |
| 10:05.00 | Cide | ^_^ |
| 10:05.00 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 10:05.08 | Cide | well that's why I'm gonna not go to bed |
| 10:05.11 | zenzio_ | ew, so you're asleep at night and awake during day now? I hate when that happens |
| 10:05.19 | Cide | zenzio_, yeah I totally know |
| 10:05.30 | Cide | that's what happens when you turn it +24 hours |
| 10:05.33 | Cide | it happens if you try hard enough |
| 10:05.39 | Cide | and then you either gotta go +12 or -12 |
| 10:05.51 | Cide | 'cause you can't have that |
| 10:07.28 | zenzio_ | I can only go to sleep at memory-aligned hours |
| 10:08.23 | Cide | been there, done that |
| 10:08.43 | Cide | I can only go to sleep when the int32-milliseconds overflow |
| 10:09.47 | zenzio_ | ouch |
| 10:09.49 | Cide | lua> (2^32)/1000/3600 |
| 10:09.50 | lua_bot | Cide: 1193.0464711111 |
| 10:09.52 | Cide | yeah it sucks |
| 10:10.15 | Cide | err that's microseconds |
| 10:10.27 | Cide | or |
| 10:10.28 | Cide | no |
| 10:10.31 | Cide | I'm tired as you can see |
| 10:10.39 | Cide | the above is correct |
| 10:10.52 | Cide | the question is |
| 10:11.02 | Cide | am I too tired to drive to the store to get energy drinks? |
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| 10:19.11 | Xinhuan | isn't the int limit 2^31 |
| 10:19.15 | Xinhuan | unless you used unsigned int |
| 10:19.35 | Cide | ha! |
| 10:19.58 | Cide | for signed it is +-2^31 yes (excluding assymetries due to 0) |
| 10:20.15 | Cide | but it still only overflows every 2^32 since it has to go from -2...... to 0 before it starts getting positive |
| 10:20.30 | Cide | it only overflows every 2^32 regardless of signedness |
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| 11:02.21 | zenzio_ | "It will be released in November, like always. Just in time for the holidays. " - someone must be forgetting Burning Crusade |
| 11:02.43 | Fisker | you're burning |
| 11:02.46 | Fisker | and a crusade |
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| 11:03.58 | mikma | i call troll |
| 11:04.26 | Fisker | I'm no troll |
| 11:04.29 | Fisker | hot belf reporting in |
| 11:06.03 | mikma | stop living in the virtual world already |
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| 11:10.35 | Kaw_ | hello, is there anyone who's good with macros? |
| 11:11.28 | zenzio_ | some people in here are. You'd be best off just stating your question/problem and seeing if they're awake |
| 11:12.40 | Kaw_ | yeah, im trying to make a polymorph macro which will |
| 11:12.45 | Kaw_ | 1. |
| 11:12.59 | Kaw_ | ahh shit soz for spam but 1. focus target if no focus exists |
| 11:13.17 | Kaw_ | 2. polymorph target |
| 11:13.25 | Kaw_ | 3. if shift is held then polymorph focus |
| 11:13.32 | Kaw_ | 4. clear focus if no target exists |
| 11:13.33 | Kaw_ | thankss |
| 11:14.14 | airtonix | fisker |
| 11:14.34 | airtonix | jabs fiskers earhole |
| 11:17.08 | Fisker | slaps airtonix around a bit with a large trout |
| 11:18.00 | airtonix | sprays fisker with whale cum |
| 11:18.23 | airtonix | japanese use that as a beauty product you know. |
| 11:18.30 | airtonix | you should be honoured |
| 11:18.46 | Kaw_ | any of you guys good with macros |
| 11:18.47 | Kaw_ | ? |
| 11:19.41 | airtonix | no |
| 11:19.43 | airtonix | horrible |
| 11:19.59 | airtonix | when i played wow, i used to only press one key at a time |
| 11:20.01 | cbreak_work | http://www.wowwiki.com/Macro_API contains all you need |
| 11:20.20 | airtonix | had a phobia of pressing more than two keys at once |
| 11:20.45 | cbreak_work | airtonix: you worked with mechanical typewriters in the past? |
| 11:21.06 | airtonix | redrum |
| 11:21.09 | cbreak_work | I remember the type head jams when pressing keys too close to each other in time :/ |
| 11:24.34 | Kaw_ | wowwiki is down ;p |
| 11:24.54 | ^RaK^ | doesnt look it :< |
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| 11:29.45 | airtonix | qq |
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| 11:34.06 | harl | hi |
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| 12:28.51 | zenzio_ | hands Lopeppeppy the Monday-screen |
| 12:35.29 | Lopeppeppy | Uh oh. Crap flying already? |
| 12:35.43 | zenzio_ | no, but better to be prepared! |
| 12:36.05 | zenzio_ | this morning it took me a while to recognise my alarm clock and figure out why it was ringing |
| 12:36.35 | Lopeppeppy | Rosie woke me up an hour early, I have a fuzzy alarm clock. |
| 12:36.43 | zenzio_ | hehe |
| 12:37.29 | zenzio_ | my cat used to scratch my dad's door with the bottom of her paws (no claws) in the morning, then run up to the living room when he got out of bed |
| 12:37.46 | Lopeppeppy | Wake up, human. |
| 12:37.54 | Lopeppeppy | Cat is awake. Amuse her. |
| 12:40.48 | zenzio_ | "Before blizzard impletented their own scrolling combat text SCT was superior." - how can it be superior to something that doesn't exist? |
| 12:42.22 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:42.23 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:42.24 | Fisker | baw :( |
| 12:42.35 | Fisker | why does Blizzard actually not act retarded when doing shit? :( |
| 12:43.58 | Lopeppeppy | did that sentence make sense in your head, Fisker? |
| 12:45.20 | Fisker | kind of |
| 12:45.25 | Fisker | they're big jerks |
| 12:45.44 | Fisker | I was hoping that en australian version of Starcraft 2 would be enUS |
| 12:45.46 | Fisker | but noooooooo |
| 12:45.49 | Fisker | it had to be enSG |
| 12:46.00 | Fisker | and then they decided to use different decryption keys for the clients |
| 12:46.28 | krka | anyone else getting "character not found" in beta? |
| 12:46.34 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2010/07/safety_second_novelty_motorcyc.php |
| 12:46.42 | mikma | i'd like to have the brain-one, thank you. |
| 13:06.01 | Zyn | thou obeseth |
| 13:07.55 | Zyn | krka , the servers seem fubar atm |
| 13:09.48 | zenzio_ | hands Cairenn the Monday-screen too |
| 13:09.59 | Cairenn | thanks zenzio_ |
| 13:10.12 | zenzio_ | let me know if you need a hand with applying it |
| 13:10.38 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 13:10.40 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, you're thinking like "sunscreen" |
| 13:10.57 | Lopeppeppy | I was thinking "window screen". Which would let the Mondayness shine right through. |
| 13:11.46 | zenzio_ | Lopeppeppy: :) |
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| 13:27.09 | Jamash | RAWR |
| 13:27.20 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr means I love you in dinosaur. |
| 13:27.25 | Jamash | <3 |
| 13:29.40 | Wobin | oh god |
| 13:29.41 | Wobin | http://www.deadlantern.com/2010/07/22/weekend-of-horrors-costume-contest-winner/ |
| 13:29.46 | Wobin | worst cosplay -EVER- |
| 13:30.49 | Lopeppeppy | What are they supposed to be? |
| 13:30.56 | Wobin | The human centipede |
| 13:30.59 | Wobin | do not google it =( |
| 13:31.06 | Wobin | it's a terrible terrible thing |
| 13:31.15 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah. How very odd. |
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| 13:39.45 | Cide | hmm |
| 13:40.20 | Cide | anyone know of an an android app for making copy&pasting phone<->computer super-easy? |
| 13:40.23 | Cide | if there is such a thing |
| 13:41.15 | batrick | there's this thing called email |
| 13:41.18 | batrick | it's pretty sweet |
| 13:41.47 | Cide | no no |
| 13:41.50 | Cide | I mean like one-click |
| 13:42.00 | batrick | the email method is like 4 clicks |
| 13:42.05 | Cide | way more |
| 13:42.14 | batrick | not for me |
| 13:42.15 | Cide | and requires me to wait for the phone to sync my email (at least 5 sec) |
| 13:42.20 | batrick | you must be suboptimal cide |
| 13:42.21 | Cide | and I have to type in the email |
| 13:42.33 | Cide | and then I have to open the email and select the text and copy it |
| 13:42.34 | batrick | tab completion to: field! |
| 13:42.45 | batrick | man you're drowning me in tears |
| 13:42.47 | Cide | email is what I use and it works |
| 13:42.51 | batrick | the answer to your original question is no |
| 13:42.57 | Jamash | you want a web app imo |
| 13:42.58 | Cide | but it'd be awesome to do it in 1 click |
| 13:43.06 | Jamash | no wait |
| 13:43.08 | Jamash | IM |
| 13:43.14 | Cide | IM? |
| 13:43.17 | Jamash | instant message |
| 13:43.20 | Cide | ... |
| 13:43.22 | Cide | I know what it stands for |
| 13:43.22 | batrick | cide |
| 13:43.29 | batrick | text the shit to your email address |
| 13:43.30 | Jamash | I know what your face stands for |
| 13:43.31 | batrick | gmail does SMS |
| 13:43.33 | Cide | I want a program running in the backgrund of my computer and my phone, waiting for text to sync |
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| 13:43.48 | Cide | my phone can email thank you very much |
| 13:43.50 | Jamash | then you copy a 5MB text file |
| 13:43.54 | Jamash | and your phone dies screaming |
| 13:44.02 | Cide | my phone does 40mbit thank you very much |
| 13:44.20 | Cide | regardless I want to sync it manually, not automatically |
| 13:44.35 | Jamash | psh, then it's not 1-click |
| 13:44.54 | Cide | http://lifehacker.com/5581392/chrome-to-phone-sends-web-and-map-links-to-android-almost-instantly |
| 13:45.03 | Cide | it's one click if I have something in my clipboard already |
| 13:45.14 | Fisker | ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooold |
| 13:45.16 | Fisker | hey Cide |
| 13:45.23 | Cide | hi |
| 13:45.34 | Cide | why the fuck does it require froyo? |
| 13:46.15 | Jamash | Note: Android 2.2 required. Chrome to Phone is powered by the Android Cloud to Device Messaging (C2DM) service, which requires Android 2.2 or later. |
| 13:48.42 | Cide | yep |
| 13:48.49 | Cide | found an alternative |
| 13:48.52 | Cide | thanks for being useless guys! |
| 13:48.55 | Cide | gotta do all the work myself |
| 13:49.09 | Fisker | froyo is awesome |
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| 13:52.04 | Cide | yeah wtb |
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| 13:59.54 | batrick | which phone do you have cide |
| 13:59.59 | Cide | desire |
| 14:00.51 | Shirik | get a storm |
| 14:00.57 | batrick | lololol |
| 14:00.57 | Fisker | no Shirik |
| 14:01.01 | Fisker | get a fucking starcraft 2 |
| 14:01.11 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 14:01.16 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 14:01.29 | Fisker | wanna fuck you up? |
| 14:01.39 | batrick | froyo needs to hurry the fuck up and release for the droid |
| 14:01.52 | Fisker | naw |
| 14:02.02 | Fisker | droid needs to hurry the fuck up and eat some frozen yoghurt |
| 14:03.04 | batrick | http://www.intomobile.com/2010/06/24/motorola-droid-getting-android-2-2-froyo-update-next-month-droid-x-late-summer/ |
| 14:03.15 | batrick | according to that article we shoould see an update soon... |
| 14:03.18 | batrick | (this month) |
| 14:04.14 | foxlit | can has iphone 5? |
| 14:04.34 | Shirik | uh oh... |
| 14:04.41 | Shirik | I fucked something up |
| 14:04.42 | zenzelezz | Apple has learned from their mistakes. The iPhone 5 will come without an antenna |
| 14:04.42 | Fisker | nothankyou.jpg |
| 14:04.47 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 14:04.52 | Fisker | what didn't you fuck up Shirik |
| 14:05.00 | foxlit | zenzelezz: "will not make calls" :P |
| 14:05.58 | Thunder_Child | http://theawesomer.com/emoticon-shot-glasses/17173/ |
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| 14:20.07 | Shirik | ... |
| 14:20.17 | Shirik | we're having a discusson on forums about "top 3 raid moments" |
| 14:20.24 | Shirik | and I come across this which I apparently wasn't present for |
| 14:20.58 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 14:20.58 | Fisker | men |
| 14:21.09 | Shirik | We were doing ToC 25. It was on Twin'Valks and instead of saying "dark and light" aura, she used "Black and White" aura. The jokes that started flying... "I was surrounded by black ones then all the sudden I got hit in the face by a white one" |
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| 14:22.26 | alestane | Wow, I'm really exhausted today. |
| 14:24.36 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:24.46 | Lopeppeppy | why are you awake then? |
| 14:25.26 | Ackis | so I went to a dinner theatre last night, got to see Klinger from MASH perform in the play, was pretty neat |
| 14:26.31 | Ackis | It was called "Tuesdays with Marie", based on the book with the same/similar name, pretty good actually |
| 14:31.58 | Fisker | Wow, I'm really exhausted today. |
| 14:32.29 | Lopeppeppy | Why are you awake then? |
| 14:33.11 | Fisker | a lack of pillows Lopeppeppy |
| 14:33.15 | Fisker | oh and raid in a few hours |
| 14:33.21 | Shirik | tackles Cairenn and Lopeppeppy and takes alestane as collateral damage |
| 14:34.22 | alestane | Class, Peppy. |
| 14:34.33 | Lopeppeppy | Yay, good morning Shirik! |
| 14:34.38 | Shirik | :/ |
| 14:34.45 | Lopeppeppy | class sucks, alestane. |
| 14:34.50 | Shirik | I broke Cairenn I think |
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| 14:34.52 | |Jelly| | waits until Shirik is distracted and hits him with a pillow! |
| 14:34.57 | Shirik | ow :< |
| 14:34.59 | Thunder_Child | you tackled cair out of IRC Shirik, good job |
| 14:35.05 | Lopeppeppy | That wasn't nice, Shirik. Do not break the Cairenn! |
| 14:35.14 | Cairenn | damnit Shirik, you tackled me right off the channel! |
| 14:35.20 | Cide | http://ctscreens.net/360 |
| 14:35.20 | Shirik | :/ |
| 14:35.24 | alestane | You tackled Cairenn right off the |
| 14:35.31 | Cide | ^ the best raid moment of all time of all guilds |
| 14:35.35 | alestane | Internet. |
| 14:36.05 | Shirik | very nice Cide |
| 14:36.17 | Cide | doesn't capture it though |
| 14:36.23 | Shirik | however, I think I have you beat |
| 14:36.24 | Cide | it played the magical trevor song and the icon danced in time |
| 14:36.34 | Cide | raid-wide |
| 14:36.35 | |Jelly| | wow Cide, that brings back memories |
| 14:36.37 | Cide | synchronized |
| 14:36.49 | Cide | on ventrilo |
| 14:36.51 | Shirik | Remember how my version of RDX had a hot-patch functionality that I could distribute to my guild? |
| 14:36.56 | Cide | |Jelly|, indeed |
| 14:36.58 | Cide | yep |
| 14:37.05 | Fisker | jerk Shirik |
| 14:37.08 | Shirik | one time we were in the middle of a boss and I distributed a patch |
| 14:37.16 | Shirik | apparently I hit a WoW bug |
| 14:37.20 | Shirik | the entire guild crashed |
| 14:37.25 | Cide | rofl |
| 14:37.33 | Cide | well played |
| 14:37.34 | Ackis | I don't get what is funny in that screenshot |
| 14:37.34 | Cairenn | extracts herself from the Shirik-alestane-lopeppeppy pile |
| 14:37.46 | Cide | Ackis, the screenshot isn't that funny, the moment was |
| 14:37.53 | Cide | <Cide> it played the magical trevor song and the icon danced in time |
| 14:37.53 | Cide | <Cide> raid-wide |
| 14:37.53 | Cide | <|Jelly|> wow Cide, that brings back memories |
| 14:37.53 | Cide | <Cide> synchronized |
| 14:37.53 | Cide | <Cide> on ventrilo |
| 14:37.54 | Shirik | I miss the days of coding during raids |
| 14:37.55 | foxlit | SHIRI-IIK!</superintendent chalmers> |
| 14:38.03 | Shirik | as a healer I don't get time to code during raids anymore :( |
| 14:38.05 | Ackis | you mean that white mage thing isn't photoshopped? |
| 14:38.07 | Shirik | that was back when I was a hunter |
| 14:38.11 | Cide | Ackis, no, it was in-game |
| 14:38.12 | Cide | raid-wide |
| 14:38.19 | Cide | and so was the magical trevor song |
| 14:38.19 | Ackis | ok that's what I was missing then |
| 14:38.26 | foxlit | You can still code as a healer, tbh |
| 14:38.30 | |Jelly| | takes a swing at Cairenn (gg body pillow-fights)! |
| 14:38.32 | |Jelly| | muahaha |
| 14:38.32 | Cide | Shirik, see me in that screenshot |
| 14:38.39 | Cide | I played a priest during all of my career! |
| 14:38.45 | Cide | benediction equipped and all |
| 14:38.46 | alestane | grabs Cairenn by the ankles. |
| 14:38.56 | foxlit | make an occasional effort to show up during boss fights, though :P |
| 14:38.57 | Shirik | :( |
| 14:39.02 | Shirik | I never got a benediction |
| 14:39.09 | Cairenn | eeps and falls over again from the dual attack of bodypillow smack and ankle grab |
| 14:39.10 | Cide | I did the quest like 6 times |
| 14:39.14 | foxlit | ~failrik |
| 14:39.15 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 14:39.15 | Cide | 'cause my priest mates were scrubs |
| 14:39.19 | Shirik | why fail |
| 14:39.21 | Shirik | I was a hunter then |
| 14:39.25 | Shirik | I was a hunter through to mid-bc |
| 14:39.26 | Cide | lol |
| 14:39.31 | Ackis | I have a screenshot of me in full tier 0.5 w/ my benediction |
| 14:39.35 | Shirik | an awful one at that |
| 14:39.36 | Ackis | sheds a tear |
| 14:39.39 | foxlit | We're 80 now, go solo MC. |
| 14:39.40 | Cide | I farmed for the eye of shadow for 40 hours |
| 14:39.42 | Shirik | by being an awful one |
| 14:39.50 | Shirik | I was the best on the server |
| 14:40.01 | Cide | but you keyboard turned |
| 14:40.07 | Shirik | actually I didn't |
| 14:40.10 | Cide | you said you did! |
| 14:40.10 | Shirik | I had an epic setup |
| 14:40.12 | Shirik | well |
| 14:40.16 | Shirik | it depends on how you define keyboard turn |
| 14:40.23 | Shirik | I turned with the keyboard yes |
| 14:40.26 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 14:40.27 | Shirik | but it's not just holding down Q |
| 14:40.29 | Cide | there you go :D |
| 14:40.49 | Shirik | turn left is either q, qd, qwd, qsd |
| 14:40.50 | Cide | you strafed right and turned left? |
| 14:41.01 | Shirik | it works quite well |
| 14:41.06 | Shirik | but I think the most epic part of my setup |
| 14:41.15 | Shirik | was that my left hand was to the right of my right hand 99% of the time |
| 14:41.25 | Cide | yeah, you said that |
| 14:41.25 | Ackis | I would use A and D to turn when I was lazy |
| 14:41.27 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/5589586/a-knife-made-from-fiber-optic-glass that so reminds me of obivion and morrowind |
| 14:41.31 | Cide | that spells fail to me tbh |
| 14:41.33 | Shirik | no |
| 14:41.35 | Shirik | it was awesomeness |
| 14:41.36 | Shirik | like |
| 14:41.37 | Shirik | you have no idea |
| 14:41.38 | Cide | I'm sure |
| 14:41.40 | Ackis | my fiancee would rebind her A and D keys and it's mess me up |
| 14:41.42 | Shirik | sad thing is I still know how to play those binds |
| 14:41.47 | Shirik | I just don't have the keyboard anymore |
| 14:41.52 | |Jelly| | TC: Definitely! |
| 14:41.52 | Shirik | Autoshot was M2G6 |
| 14:41.56 | Shirik | I mean aimed shot |
| 14:42.13 | Shirik | steady shot was M1G8 |
| 14:42.22 | Shirik | hunter's mark G2 |
| 14:42.25 | Cide | speaking of raid moments though |
| 14:42.26 | Shirik | concussive shot G1 |
| 14:42.30 | Thunder_Child | |Jelly|: the sad part is i want to get it but the handle makes me want to vomit |
| 14:42.33 | Shirik | serpent sting G3 |
| 14:42.34 | Shirik | I got this |
| 14:42.37 | Shirik | I could still be a hunter |
| 14:42.38 | |Jelly| | I agree. lol |
| 14:42.39 | Cide | nice |
| 14:42.46 | Shirik | oh and then pet attack was something that was impossible to hit |
| 14:42.50 | Shirik | because I never had my pet out |
| 14:43.08 | Cide | I remember when we were learning patchwerk |
| 14:43.14 | Cide | this was in naxx60, and we were like world 4th |
| 14:43.21 | Cide | needless to say it was pretty difficult |
| 14:43.30 | Shirik | fu |
| 14:43.35 | Shirik | we were world 10th I think |
| 14:43.45 | alestane | Strafing while turning gets your target back in front of you much more quickly. |
| 14:43.48 | Shirik | I'd have to go back and look |
| 14:43.58 | Cide | I don't know if we were world 4th or not |
| 14:44.03 | Cide | but juggernaut ftw |
| 14:44.14 | Cide | anyway I was healing our main tank |
| 14:44.33 | Cide | and it felt way spikier than usual but who knows since it's patchwerk right |
| 14:44.55 | Cide | and so we're talking on vent and my healer buddies on the MT agree |
| 14:45.05 | Shirik | dual wielding |
| 14:45.07 | Cide | so the main tank goes "uh, guys....... .... my shield is broken" |
| 14:45.09 | Shirik | lol |
| 14:45.10 | Shirik | fail |
| 14:45.14 | Ackis | didn't you love when you and another healer on patchwerk ended up syncing your heals? :( |
| 14:45.15 | Cide | and it becomes chaos |
| 14:45.25 | Cide | and someone screams something like "GET HIM A REPAIR BOT" |
| 14:45.25 | Shirik | see ackis |
| 14:45.32 | Cide | so he actually repairs in-fight |
| 14:45.35 | Cide | and we kill him |
| 14:45.37 | Shirik | cide: win |
| 14:45.44 | Cide | it was awesome |
| 14:45.47 | Shirik | Ackis: thing about RDX |
| 14:45.52 | batrick | rofl |
| 14:45.58 | Shirik | I never used it in vanilla, but I constantly talked to people who did, obviously |
| 14:46.04 | Shirik | the best healer on our team told me the trick |
| 14:46.13 | Shirik | instead of healing the person at the top of the list (most damage, it worked something like healbot) |
| 14:46.22 | Cide | Ackis, healing patchwerk was the most fun ever |
| 14:46.22 | Shirik | heal the person at the second point on the list |
| 14:46.31 | Shirik | everyone goes for the person at the top |
| 14:46.35 | Shirik | if you go for the second, you win |
| 14:46.44 | Ackis | Shirik: that doesn't work when you have healing assignments :P |
| 14:46.47 | Cide | best part was when one off-tank went down so you only had 2 off tanks |
| 14:46.55 | Shirik | who listens to healing assignments anymore |
| 14:46.57 | A-KO | healing patchwerk was the suck |
| 14:46.59 | Cide | and it was total luck |
| 14:47.01 | A-KO | Shirik: nobody :P |
| 14:47.05 | A-KO | Shirik: that's why it sucks |
| 14:47.13 | Cide | that's why cataclysm is going to be awesome |
| 14:47.15 | Ackis | Shirik: in naxx60? everyone did |
| 14:47.17 | Cide | healing is going to be strategic again |
| 14:47.20 | Shirik | ANYMORE |
| 14:47.27 | Shirik | also, I was not a healer back then |
| 14:47.28 | batrick | misses the days of stacking ignites. |
| 14:47.34 | Shirik | don't blame me for anything inconsistent |
| 14:47.39 | batrick | 20+k ignite ticks |
| 14:47.41 | batrick | those were the days |
| 14:47.54 | Shirik | I miss archimonde |
| 14:48.04 | Ackis | I hated archomonde |
| 14:48.04 | Shirik | my most epic fail ever |
| 14:48.08 | Ackis | despised him |
| 14:48.08 | Cide | it was great on patchwerk also when you were sitting at 0%-5% mana and you couldn't always cast spells |
| 14:48.09 | Shirik | 1. Get launched in air |
| 14:48.12 | Shirik | 2. Click tears |
| 14:48.15 | Cide | and your tank dodges like 5 times in a row |
| 14:48.24 | Shirik | 3. See error message "You can only use that in the Dead Scar" |
| 14:48.26 | Shirik | 4. Splat |
| 14:48.31 | foxlit | 2. is wait, you silly :) |
| 14:48.38 | Cide | not for Shirik |
| 14:48.41 | Cide | he's a keyboard turner |
| 14:48.44 | Cide | everything is slow |
| 14:48.51 | Shirik | Apparently the icon for the launch thing at the dead scar |
| 14:48.53 | Cide | sorry I had to :( |
| 14:48.54 | Shirik | was the same as tears |
| 14:49.00 | Cide | haha what? |
| 14:49.03 | Cide | that's awesome |
| 14:49.04 | Shirik | the bomb thing |
| 14:49.08 | Shirik | so I had that on my bars instead |
| 14:49.10 | Ackis | lol |
| 14:49.14 | Cide | speaking of that |
| 14:49.25 | Ackis | used IHML so it was bound to my ; key |
| 14:49.36 | Ackis | @project ihml |
| 14:49.37 | Repo | Ackis: http://www.wowace.com/addons/ihml/. IHML - I Have Macro Lol!. Game: WoW. Ackis (Manager/Author), Snago (Author). Updated: 298 days ago. Tickets: 3/19 |
| 14:49.46 | Ackis | whistles innocently |
| 14:49.50 | Cide | killing yourself on shazzrah with those mana things |
| 14:50.12 | Ackis | I hated how archimonde would always chase me around with those trails of fire |
| 14:50.23 | foxlit | http://www.wowhead.com/items?filter=cr=142;crs=0;crv=spell_arcane_arcane01 |
| 14:50.34 | Shirik | I still miss vael |
| 14:50.48 | foxlit | That story doesn't work, Shirik |
| 14:50.51 | Shirik | hm? |
| 14:50.58 | Shirik | oh |
| 14:51.02 | Ackis | vael was only fun if you were the last one to get blown up Shirik :P |
| 14:51.05 | Shirik | well if it's not the same it was similar enough to confuse me |
| 14:52.16 | Shirik | of course |
| 14:52.20 | Shirik | confusing me is no easy feat |
| 14:52.48 | Cide | psh |
| 14:53.10 | Shirik | ....................................... |
| 14:53.16 | Shirik | ~wiki list of fictional pandas |
| 14:54.01 | Cide | nice |
| 14:54.26 | Shirik | some day I'm just going to start going around deleting stuff with reason "stupid article" |
| 14:54.46 | Ackis | deletes Shirik's user with "stupid user" justification. |
| 14:55.00 | Shirik | you cannot do this! |
| 14:56.55 | foxlit | So how does diff work? |
| 14:58.15 | Jamash | very carefully |
| 14:58.32 | Cide | differently each time |
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| 15:07.19 | alestane | So, the person writing this lab exercise forgot that default palettes are different between Mac and Windows versions. |
| 15:08.52 | alestane | So the exercise has no visible effect when completed on Windows. |
| 15:09.01 | Jamash | awesome |
| 15:09.01 | Lopeppeppy | Sexy. |
| 15:09.26 | cog|sleep | http://amandabauer.blogspot.com/2010/03/dirty-space-news.html |
| 15:09.57 | alestane | Unless you take this extra step that they completely neglected to mention. |
| 15:11.29 | Jamash | lol, dongs |
| 15:12.47 | Jamash | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2000/9/22/ |
| 15:14.54 | Fisker | lol penis |
| 15:15.14 | Fisker | kill me Jamash |
| 15:15.21 | Fisker | slaps alestane around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:15.35 | Jamash | murders Fisker with a banana. |
| 15:15.47 | Fisker | awesome |
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| 15:19.12 | mikma | WHOOPDIDOO!!!!! |
| 15:19.34 | mikma | Hyjal + random dismounts = <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 |
| 15:20.10 | Jamash | plummeting? |
| 15:23.09 | mikma | The Flamewake, avoid it like it would be a cheap prostitute with AIDS |
| 15:23.55 | mikma | http://www.sustainabilityninja.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/captain-obvious.jpg |
| 15:23.57 | Jamash | or keep a parachute cloak handy |
| 15:24.04 | mikma | i was feeling exactly like that |
| 15:24.07 | mikma | you know |
| 15:24.11 | Jamash | yeah |
| 15:24.16 | mikma | my new cloak from the quest doesn't have parachute in it :D |
| 15:24.18 | mikma | the old one has |
| 15:24.46 | alestane | Like this, jamash: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP1GsL5dfel |
| 15:24.51 | mikma | but they should propably FIX THE DAMN AIRSPACE instead of making me adding parachute into my cloak |
| 15:25.09 | mikma | also, Cata has been crashing on me quite alot |
| 15:25.09 | Jamash | The video you have requested is not available. |
| 15:25.37 | Jamash | just think of it as an opportunity to submit crash reports |
| 15:25.56 | foxlit | Just fly less :P |
| 15:26.40 | alestane | That's funny, I was watching it while you said that. |
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| 15:27.15 | alestane | Just search YouTube for "muppet labs sharp bananas" |
| 15:28.16 | Jamash | ah yes |
| 15:28.58 | mikma | jamash: i did actually report it |
| 15:28.58 | mikma | i've been reporting quite alot of stuff while playing |
| 15:28.58 | mikma | all i can hope is it will improve the game ^^ |
| 15:28.58 | Jamash | yeah |
| 15:34.13 | mikma | ERROR #134 (0x85100086) Fatal Condition |
| 15:34.13 | mikma | Program:C:\pelit\World of Warcraft Beta\WoW.exe |
| 15:34.13 | mikma | File:.\ObjectMgrClient.cpp |
| 15:34.14 | mikma | Line:1179 |
| 15:34.15 | mikma | boom |
| 15:34.18 | mikma | yet again |
| 15:35.00 | Lopeppeppy | We have explosives!! |
| 15:40.30 | alestane | The only way you can tell if goblin engineering malfunctioned is where it blows up. |
| 15:41.42 | Fisker | mikma |
| 15:41.51 | Fisker | i've heard on the internet that disabling directx 11 support fixes it |
| 15:43.32 | mikma | don't have it enabled afaik |
| 15:44.12 | Fisker | automatically enabled if you got Vista/7 and a DirectX 10 or better GPU apparently |
| 15:44.17 | mikma | xp |
| 15:44.39 | Fisker | damn |
| 15:44.40 | Fisker | idk then |
| 15:44.48 | Fisker | stop pirating DirectX 11 on your XP |
| 15:44.50 | Fisker | :D |
| 15:44.57 | mikma | don't have dx11 |
| 15:45.02 | Fisker | i know |
| 15:45.04 | Fisker | you can't :P |
| 15:46.15 | |Jelly| | Another day off; another day without beta. :( |
| 15:46.31 | robokitty | At least you have beta >:( |
| 15:46.47 | |Jelly| | I have an 'invalid' (lol) key. |
| 15:46.54 | robokitty | blol |
| 15:47.03 | robokitty | At least you have a key, even if it is invalid :P |
| 15:47.18 | Niv | it took them a few days to fix them last time |
| 15:47.24 | nevcairiel | i can give you an invalid key, robokitty |
| 15:47.41 | nevcairiel | just dont assume it'll be valid at any point in time |
| 15:48.21 | robokitty | :( |
| 15:48.33 | robokitty | I just need to learn LUA fast enough to code my addon idea, then it's np |
| 15:48.37 | |Jelly| | 43218487523486421548742195 |
| 15:48.45 | robokitty | either that or rope ag into doing it for me |
| 15:49.13 | robokitty | as a favor for driving him to the kebab shop once :> |
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| 15:55.50 | Cide | realizing that you need to change the type from a reference type to a shared_ptr type in about 30 places in the code pace: $100 |
| 15:56.10 | Cide | doing it all and realizing that I also need to add the const qualifier: FFFUUUUUUUUUU---- |
| 15:56.15 | batrick | pukes at your C++. |
| 15:56.23 | nicoli_s | double pukes |
| 15:56.56 | Cide | triple pukes at batrick |
| 15:57.08 | Cide | this is when I wish I had typedef'd it |
| 15:57.10 | batrick | you get what you paid for |
| 15:57.46 | Cide | granted |
| 15:58.32 | alestane | Very nice, the school actually put the UDK on some of the lab computers. |
| 16:00.13 | Fisker | I THREW IT ON THE GROUND |
| 16:02.09 | Fisker | http://www.macrumors.com/2010/07/26/u-s-government-to-explicitly-allow-iphone-jailbreaking/ <-did apple just get pwnt? |
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| 16:03.27 | Cide | awesome |
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| 16:04.25 | Cairenn | station |
| 16:04.39 | Lunessa | station! |
| 16:04.48 | cog|work | mornin |
| 16:04.54 | Cide | noitats |
| 16:05.04 | Cide | also known as no tits |
| 16:05.15 | Cide | represent |
| 16:06.41 | Fisker | i didn't kill my wife |
| 16:07.43 | Lunessa | Cide: The mission of heterosexual men should be more tits, not no tits. |
| 16:07.57 | Elkano | moobs? |
| 16:08.16 | Cide | yes, I suppose you're right, Lunessa |
| 16:09.55 | Ackis | btw americans, it's no longer illegal for you to jailbreak your phone |
| 16:09.56 | alestane | I think we need a new rule, Lunessa: when someone says MoonWitch is scaring them, drink. |
| 16:10.25 | Lunessa | alestane: Has she induced fear today? |
| 16:10.42 | alestane | Last night. |
| 16:10.59 | Lopeppeppy | no wonder you slept poorly |
| 16:11.55 | alestane | Not in me, Peppy, I had friends like that in high school. |
| 16:12.14 | Cairenn | What did she do last night? |
| 16:12.55 | Ackis | ~seen moonwitch |
| 16:12.57 | purl | moonwitch <~Kelly@d51A4DB5F.access.telenet.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 13h 56s ago, saying: 'yes*'. |
| 16:13.03 | Ackis | she said yes |
| 16:13.31 | Cairenn | lol |
| 16:13.43 | Lopeppeppy | that would terrify alestane, yes |
| 16:13.52 | alestane | Someone else was saying something about a prank proposal where you sneak into someone's yard in the middle of the night and build a snowman... |
| 16:14.11 | alestane | ...with a human skeleton inside. |
| 16:14.32 | Lopeppeppy | *innocent* |
| 16:14.35 | Lunessa | alestane: That's not a bad idea. |
| 16:14.57 | Cairenn | ewww |
| 16:15.08 | alestane | Sp she said that would be awesome, because she could keep the skeleton and set it up in her living room. |
| 16:15.18 | Fisker | Lopeppeppy broke my street |
| 16:15.21 | Lunessa | You can get pretty realistic ones made of plaster/plastic/nylon |
| 16:15.30 | Lopeppeppy | My aunt wants to be stuffed and stood in the living room. |
| 16:15.31 | Ackis | Lunessa: it's cheaper to kill someone |
| 16:15.41 | alestane | And I think she freaked cloudwolf out a bit. |
| 16:15.44 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker, I did not. Can't prove it. |
| 16:15.50 | Lunessa | Ackis: If by serving life without parole you mean 'cheaper', then perhaps. |
| 16:16.14 | Ackis | only if you get caught |
| 16:16.41 | Fisker | oh but i can't Lopeppeppy |
| 16:17.18 | Lunessa | Ackis: Solve rates for murders are on the up-swing, and someone ALWAYS slips up. |
| 16:17.39 | Ackis | points at OJ Simpson |
| 16:17.46 | Ackis | old joke is old :( |
| 16:17.49 | Fisker | i murdered your street Ackis |
| 16:17.54 | Fisker | then i broke it |
| 16:20.33 | Lunessa | http://xkcd.com/771/ - lulz? |
| 16:22.00 | cog|work | http://i.imgur.com/4tUEJ.jpg |
| 16:22.20 | cog|work | Lunessa: word, verily |
| 16:23.30 | Lunessa | cog|work: hark, what blog in Windows doth BSOD? It is WordPress, and the content is lame. |
| 16:33.12 | Lunessa | this graph- http://graphjam.com/2010/07/26/funny-graphs-breakdown-drivers-road/ - full of truth. |
| 16:33.36 | Fisker | i didn't kill my wife |
| 16:33.45 | cog|work | Fisker: do you still beat her? |
| 16:33.50 | Fisker | btw i disagree Lunessa |
| 16:33.58 | Fisker | naw cog|work |
| 16:34.01 | Fisker | someone killed her |
| 16:34.52 | Jamash | with a banana |
| 16:35.24 | Cide | death by exhaustion |
| 16:35.28 | Cide | so to speak |
| 16:35.48 | cog|work | ~seen Shirik |
| 16:35.50 | purl | shirik is currently on #norganna #wowuidev #wowace. Has said a total of 98 messages. Is idling for 1h 40m 50s, last said: 'you cannot do this!'. |
| 16:36.02 | Cide | you shall not pass! |
| 16:36.17 | Cide | or rather |
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| 16:36.46 | Cide | YOU.. SHALL NOT.... PASS!!! |
| 16:37.26 | cog|work | Cide|afkfor1h40m: C++ seems to have turned your brain to mush |
| 16:37.31 | Jamash | whenever I see a road sign that prohibits passing I want to edit it to say that |
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| 16:37.40 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Cide-] by ChanServ |
| 16:37.46 | Cide- | ~seen Cide |
| 16:37.47 | purl | cide is currently on #wowuidev (21h 57m 18s). Has said a total of 435 messages. Is idling for 1m 1s, last said: 'YOU.. SHALL NOT.... PASS!!!'. |
| 16:37.53 | Cide- | that's so funny |
| 16:38.07 | Cide | cog|work, nah, being awake for 26 hours and counting has |
| 16:38.14 | Jamash | sleep is for the weak |
| 16:38.20 | cog|work | humans are weak |
| 16:38.34 | Lopeppeppy | the sane, well-adjusted weak. But the weak, nevertheless. |
| 16:38.37 | cog|work | this is what drugs are for |
| 16:38.40 | Fisker | cogs are weak |
| 16:38.50 | Jamash | â´ all men are socrates |
| 16:40.42 | xDD | http://xkcd.com/761/ lol I anticipated that one while reading the third image :P |
| 16:45.48 | Lopeppeppy | Sweet, there was a fire in my building last week and I didn't know about it. |
| 16:46.49 | Ackis | why is the "do you smoke after sex" joke coming to mind right now? |
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| 16:47.25 | Fisker | apple broke my street |
| 16:48.52 | xDD | bah I have an algorithms exam tomorrow but i cba learning for it... |
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| 16:49.19 | Fisker | malreth |
| 16:49.21 | Fisker | i hope you die |
| 16:49.39 | malreth | i plan to live fast, love hard, and leave a good lookin' corpse |
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| 16:49.49 | zenzelezz | xDD: on your exam, write that you were recursively reading the material but ran out of stack space |
| 16:49.55 | Warloco | bah, beta keys still not working >.< |
| 16:51.49 | Lunessa | malreth: too late on part 3. |
| 16:51.59 | Fisker | Thank you for helping us test Cataclysm Warloco |
| 16:52.10 | zenzelezz | Lunessa: he didn't say it would be his corpse |
| 16:52.13 | malreth | Lunessa: DISSSS! |
| 16:52.23 | alestane | Gotta go home and plug the phone in now. |
| 16:52.43 | Lunessa | malreth: You set 'em up, I'll knock 'em down. Just sayin'. |
| 16:56.00 | Lunessa | would gleefully strangle Adobe's Acrobat team right about now. |
| 16:58.27 | cloudwolf | Lol why lunessa? |
| 16:59.26 | Lunessa | Their installer does terrible things resulting in a lot of broken installs, and PDF forms are the most convoluted, messy tech I've ever seen. |
| 16:59.39 | cloudwolf | heh |
| 16:59.50 | Lunessa | And I've worked in COBOL and Pascal, so that's saying something. |
| 17:00.47 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, please come tell the Head IT Worm that! He doesn't believe me when I report problems with PDFs. |
| 17:01.20 | cloudwolf | http://xkcd.com/ |
| 17:01.22 | cloudwolf | lol |
| 17:01.47 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Somehow, just because I work in IT and because I know a thing or three about it, I'm the "campus expert" so I get all the crappy problems. *goes back to researching* |
| 17:03.00 | cloudwolf | *goes back to playing wc3 because his computer can't handle sc2 and is still waiting for blizzard to fix beta keys.* |
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| 17:04.56 | mikma | haste: http://www.linusakesson.net/chipophone/index.php |
| 17:06.50 | cloudwolf | heh poor electric organ |
| 17:08.17 | cloudwolf | i like the video tho lol |
| 17:08.24 | cloudwolf | classif video game music = win |
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| 17:10.01 | cloudwolf | if i knew how to read music and had this thing and could play piano i woudls o play thsi music |
| 17:10.03 | Dashkal | nifty: Jailbreaking outright legal in the us now: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/07/26/us_government_legalizes_iphone_jailbreaking_for_unauthorized_apps.html |
| 17:10.15 | cloudwolf | neat |
| 17:10.15 | mikma | HAH! |
| 17:10.21 | mikma | take that, apple |
| 17:10.29 | cloudwolf | another step towards open source? XD |
| 17:11.00 | cbreak | cloudwolf: no |
| 17:11.12 | cloudwolf | so what just a slap in the face to apple then? |
| 17:11.14 | cbreak | it does not change anything with respect to openness or closedness of sources |
| 17:11.18 | cbreak | yes. |
| 17:11.27 | cbreak | a slap in the face of closed platforms |
| 17:13.07 | cloudwolf | does that also mean that apps dont need to get approval (i never truely understood jailbreaking) |
| 17:13.26 | nevcairiel | jail breaking just lets you do whatever you want |
| 17:13.40 | nevcairiel | so you can copy a app on to the phone and just install it |
| 17:14.10 | cbreak | jailbreaking is basically getting admin access to the phone |
| 17:14.14 | Fisker | old Dashkal |
| 17:14.17 | cbreak | and disabling some security protections |
| 17:14.25 | mikma | that's like, sudo gainroot in nokia n810? :D |
| 17:14.28 | cbreak | that way you can run applications that have not been signed |
| 17:14.45 | cbreak | it's more than just getting root |
| 17:14.50 | mikma | dashkal: it's not old, fisker is just playing internet troll again |
| 17:14.58 | Dashkal | mikma: What's a fisker? |
| 17:15.02 | Dashkal | :p |
| 17:15.06 | mikma | good question |
| 17:15.10 | mikma | let's see what google says |
| 17:15.33 | mikma | http://www.greenisgreat.fr/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/karma-de-Fisker.jpg |
| 17:15.34 | Dashkal | nice looking car, actually |
| 17:15.35 | mikma | this is fisker |
| 17:15.37 | malreth | it's a huge win for consumers. |
| 17:15.49 | Fisker | it is mikma |
| 17:16.00 | Fisker | [18:02:06] <Fisker> http://www.macrumors.com/2010/07/26/u-s-government-to-explicitly-allow-iphone-jailbreaking/ <-did apple just get pwnt? |
| 17:16.03 | Fisker | an hour at least |
| 17:16.14 | Dashkal | Not having to worry about having my phone ganked for jailbreaking it is a total win. |
| 17:16.28 | Fisker | ganked? |
| 17:16.38 | Dashkal | confiscated at the border |
| 17:16.43 | cbreak | I don't think you can stop worying about that |
| 17:16.50 | Dashkal | eh, true |
| 17:16.54 | cbreak | border agents are not known for having common sense |
| 17:17.05 | cbreak | (I doubt they care about jailbreaking though) |
| 17:17.20 | Dashkal | Well, for that I'll just make sure the idle screen looks totally normal |
| 17:17.44 | malreth | and it's not so much a slap in the face to apple, as it is to the DMCA. I can't possibly see how anybody could see that this is a bad thing. |
| 17:18.08 | cbreak | I heard some border agents shot a computer because it ran "strange letters as if it was hacked" (linux in console mode) |
| 17:18.27 | Dashkal | I wouldn't even consider bring a laptop across the border |
| 17:18.36 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, I could see that, shooting a computer on sight. |
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| 17:19.43 | cloudwolf | cbreak that sounds like complete bs OH NOE A HACKED COMPUTER better shoot it.. |
| 17:20.03 | cloudwolf | but maybe im missing incompetence in there... |
| 17:20.21 | cbreak | read about it on /. were some israeli border agents. no idea what they thought. |
| 17:20.37 | cloudwolf | K isreal i can understand that lol |
| 17:21.18 | cloudwolf | I was thining more mexico, south america, canada, somewhere in middle europe border agents lol |
| 17:21.36 | cloudwolf | isreal i have no idea wtf any of them think :D |
| 17:21.44 | cloudwolf | or know about computers |
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| 17:22.32 | Fisker | yeah Lopeppeppy |
| 17:22.36 | Fisker | they're sentient |
| 17:22.50 | Fisker | it was killed or be started at with the black screen of terminal |
| 17:22.53 | Lunessa | In the 90s, a border agent (US/Canada border) asked me when crossing "Do you own a gun?" I said "Yes." They pulled me over and began to search my vehicle. They didn't find a gun. The agent asked "Where's the gun, sir?" I said, "At home, in Virginia (where I lived at the time). You only asked me if I owned a gun, not if I had one." Her supervisor /faceplamed and apologized. |
| 17:22.59 | Fisker | kill* |
| 17:23.11 | malreth | now we just need a ruling that removes carrier locks and we'll actually have a free market |
| 17:23.24 | Lunessa | So border agents? Not always the sharpest tacks, ya know? |
| 17:23.48 | Lopeppeppy | malreth, you heathen. |
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| 17:23.56 | cbreak | malreth: no. a free market is a market where the companies can engage in what ever contracts they want |
| 17:24.05 | cbreak | including locking you to them for life or what ever |
| 17:24.11 | Lopeppeppy | I want this for Christmakwanzika. http://myfoodlooksfunny.com/2010/07/26/funny-food-photos-nomskulls-cupcake-liners/ |
| 17:24.12 | cbreak | what you want is a consumer oriented market |
| 17:24.25 | cbreak | where companies are not free to screw consumers over as they feel |
| 17:24.50 | malreth | cbreak: i don't have time to understand what it is you've written so i'll pretend i never read it |
| 17:25.35 | cloudwolf | lopeppeppy thats an epic name for a skull cup |
| 17:25.39 | cbreak | you can't make the market freer by adding restrictions to players. You can only make it fairer. |
| 17:26.32 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: If I get those for you, will you make delicious brain-shaped cupcakes for me to nom?> |
| 17:29.09 | malreth | oh, actually the AI article explains the rulings a little bit better than the MR post does |
| 17:31.24 | Lopeppeppy | I will, although the brain frosting may take some experimenting to perfect. :) Looks strawberry or cherry to me. I prefer lemon flavor brains. |
| 17:31.47 | malreth | exemptions have been explicitly granted for removing a carrier lock, jailbreaking, removing copy protection from video games for the purpose of investigating security flaws, breaking DRM on DVDs for the purpose of fair use, and bypassing dongles for abandonware |
| 17:32.08 | Lopeppeppy | "fair use", such a wishy washy term sometimes. |
| 17:33.10 | malreth | "allow college professors, film students and documentary filmmakers to break copy protection measures on DVDs to embed clips for educational purposes, criticism, commentary and noncommercial videos" is what the article specifically states. i'm sure the ruling itself states it even more clearly |
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| 17:36.11 | cloudwolf | http://myfoodlooksfunny.com/2010/07/22/funny-food-photos-does-the-mouse-keep-it-fresh/ |
| 17:36.13 | cloudwolf | lol |
| 17:36.14 | cloudwolf | poor mouse |
| 17:36.27 | durcyn | malreth: saw that. grew a big wet one for that judge. |
| 17:37.08 | durcyn | basically, according to the decision, the only circumvention that triggers the DMCA is for the purpose of copyright violations, nothing else |
| 17:37.24 | malreth | durcyn: big wet one for the Library of Congress, really. i'm not sure a judge was involved... |
| 17:37.43 | durcyn | huh? it was a circuit court decision |
| 17:37.56 | durcyn | which means supreme court appeal soonish |
| 17:38.09 | durcyn | and the defendant was General Electric, of all people |
| 17:38.51 | malreth | oh? i can't get the text of the ruling from eff.org |
| 17:38.56 | durcyn | http://www.boingboing.net/2010/07/25/federal-judge-says-y.html |
| 17:39.43 | malreth | well if it's a circuit court ruling, that makes it more interesting |
| 17:44.53 | malreth | Ars has even more betterer analysis http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/07/apple-loses-big-in-drm-ruling-jailbreaks-are-fair-use.ars?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss |
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| 17:55.13 | Cairenn | Apparently keys are fixed (didn't get an email from Blizz, but thread is reporting they are) |
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| 17:55.35 | Gnarfoz | Cairenn: wootage |
| 17:55.44 | malreth | three cheers for Cairenn |
| 17:55.45 | Gnarfoz | best news all week, month, or something |
| 17:55.53 | Gnarfoz | ~hug Cairenn |
| 17:55.54 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn |
| 17:55.58 | Gnarfoz | wait |
| 17:56.02 | Gnarfoz | where's tackle-hug? :\ |
| 17:56.17 | malreth | ~kiss Cairenn |
| 17:56.18 | purl | ACTION forces Cairenn to give Kivnel a big kiss on the lips |
| 17:56.22 | malreth | oh my |
| 17:56.45 | Gnarfoz | works indeed |
| 17:57.49 | Cairenn | :) |
| 17:58.10 | batrick | w00t for Cairenn |
| 17:58.17 | Zyn | now I would like to know why my chatframe moves every time I mount or gain a buff... |
| 18:00.30 | nevcairiel | too bad the servers are kinda broken right now, eh |
| 18:02.13 | cloudwolf | YAAAAYYYY carienn yoru right |
| 18:02.15 | cloudwolf | :D |
| 18:04.20 | Lopeppeppy | Cairenn, the bearer of awesome news for starving fans! :) |
| 18:04.32 | Cairenn | :) |
| 18:04.58 | cloudwolf | Cairenn the in the know moderator :D |
| 18:05.29 | |stefan| | just. don't get your hopes up too much =) |
| 18:05.36 | |stefan| | yes battle.net accepted our keys. |
| 18:05.59 | cloudwolf | :P hey blizzard botched it once they can do it again |
| 18:06.04 | cloudwolf | but atlest i can start dling hte content |
| 18:06.05 | cog|work | Cairenn, the bearer = Cairbear? |
| 18:06.09 | |stefan| | but next thing is "There are no World of Warcraft Game Licenses attached to this Battle.Net Account." |
| 18:06.12 | Cairenn | lol |
| 18:06.13 | nevcairiel | carebear? |
| 18:06.30 | cloudwolf | fun :D |
| 18:06.40 | nevcairiel | worked for others |
| 18:06.44 | cog|work | wonders what symbol is on Cairenn's belly |
| 18:06.51 | |stefan| | even ptr char copy ? |
| 18:07.07 | Cairenn | |stefan|: check the realm |
| 18:07.29 | Cairenn | |stefan|: one person on the thread said when they clicked on it, it took them to the us realm, but just switching it back to eu worked |
| 18:07.43 | |stefan| | heh down for maintenance |
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| 18:08.02 | nevcairiel | they are still preparing for the SC2 launch |
| 18:09.07 | |stefan| | anyway. it'll probably work once the site is back up again. |
| 18:09.18 | |stefan| | atleast i'm downloading client right now =) |
| 18:09.21 | Gnarfoz | argh bastards |
| 18:09.40 | Gnarfoz | logged in, noticed I didn't copy any chars, yet, of course... now bnet is down for maint |
| 18:09.46 | xDD | Woot, when can we expect the next batch of keys? |
| 18:09.53 | cloudwolf | the guild is on us pve right? meh pve any way i hate open world pvp lol |
| 18:10.04 | Gnarfoz | there's guilds on both servers |
| 18:10.25 | cloudwolf | :P theres 4 arn't there pve and pvp us and pve and pvp eu |
| 18:10.30 | Gnarfoz | no. |
| 18:10.39 | Gnarfoz | just check the server's names? ;) |
| 18:10.55 | nevcairiel | there are 4 servers in total, i think |
| 18:11.03 | nevcairiel | pve/pvp US, pve EU, and one asian, i think |
| 18:11.14 | Gnarfoz | two asian if I'm not blind? :\ |
| 18:11.16 | Gnarfoz | maybe I am blind! |
| 18:11.29 | nevcairiel | well then its 5 in total, what do i care :p |
| 18:11.33 | Gnarfoz | nah, 4 |
| 18:11.40 | Gnarfoz | any idea why my Launcher would simply disappear when started? |
| 18:12.29 | cloudwolf | gnarfoz |
| 18:12.30 | Maldivia | start as admin |
| 18:12.34 | cloudwolf | yeah |
| 18:12.35 | Gnarfoz | Maldivia: what for? |
| 18:12.36 | cloudwolf | run it as admin |
| 18:12.36 | Maldivia | known issue |
| 18:12.39 | cloudwolf | or go into program files |
| 18:12.43 | Gnarfoz | it's not in program files |
| 18:12.44 | cloudwolf | find the beta folder |
| 18:12.47 | cloudwolf | and launch through that |
| 18:12.51 | Gnarfoz | I did... |
| 18:12.55 | nevcairiel | just run it as admin once, should work probably |
| 18:12.56 | cloudwolf | meh Find the beta folder and launch through wow.exe |
| 18:12.59 | Gnarfoz | and it worked fine before today :o |
| 18:13.13 | Gnarfoz | cloudwolf: thanks, but that's not what I asked at all :P |
| 18:13.21 | cloudwolf | k |
| 18:13.31 | Gnarfoz | not sure what the launcher would need to do that requires admin powers, hmm |
| 18:13.36 | Maldivia | Gnarfoz: it's a bug, it should get foxed at some point |
| 18:14.03 | nevcairiel | doesnt happen to everyone either |
| 18:14.07 | Maldivia | Gnarfoz: for now, launch as admin, or WoW.exe directly is the way to go |
| 18:14.17 | Gnarfoz | Maldivia: thanks, but I wasn't starting the launcher to start wow. |
| 18:14.21 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: I would assume XP players aren't experiencing it for instance :P |
| 18:14.26 | Lopeppeppy | Gnarfoz, my launcher has been borked forever, I don't use it to start WoW either. |
| 18:14.26 | nevcairiel | i'm on 7 |
| 18:14.31 | nevcairiel | and i dont have issues |
| 18:14.32 | Gnarfoz | Maldivia: why would xp be relevant |
| 18:14.38 | nevcairiel | uac issues |
| 18:14.40 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 18:14.46 | Gnarfoz | because wow is not inside an UAC watched folder |
| 18:14.51 | nevcairiel | still |
| 18:14.54 | Gnarfoz | (who does that to themselves :D) |
| 18:15.03 | Gnarfoz | well, at least it's not file permissions and UAC virtualization |
| 18:15.05 | nevcairiel | with uac on default level, processes can't do what your account is allowed to do |
| 18:15.16 | nevcairiel | unless they popup this uac box |
| 18:15.17 | Gnarfoz | it's on maximum level, everything else is useless ;) |
| 18:15.37 | Gnarfoz | shame MS shipped it that way -.- |
| 18:16.12 | nevcairiel | the default on 7 is working fine, doesnt ask me about system changes i try to do myself, but asks about applications that want access |
| 18:16.12 | Maldivia | Gnarfoz: the reason the Launcher is closing is because it crashes with a memory access violation |
| 18:16.14 | Gnarfoz | hmm, is the character copy link for beta similar to the one for ptr? |
| 18:16.22 | cbreak | lots of dead people at the love parade. Social life is dangerous. |
| 18:16.22 | Maldivia | Gnarfoz: what it tries to do I haven't bothered figuring out |
| 18:16.43 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: no, the default is simply insecure and was compromised before 7 was even out of beta :( |
| 18:16.57 | nevcairiel | all levels were compromised |
| 18:16.59 | nevcairiel | then they fixed it |
| 18:17.01 | Gnarfoz | no |
| 18:17.07 | Gnarfoz | you're thinking of something else |
| 18:17.16 | Gnarfoz | they never fixed the command injection elevation problem |
| 18:17.33 | nevcairiel | the highest is just stupid, it pops up a box when i want to change my display setitngs or something |
| 18:17.34 | Gnarfoz | everything lower than the highest settings allows software to elevate to admin privs without you doing anything |
| 18:17.46 | Gnarfoz | it's tons better than on vista |
| 18:18.04 | cbreak | UAC is useless if it only takes an Icon in a lnk file to install kernel drivers. |
| 18:18.09 | Gnarfoz | it asks when you change system settings or start "dangerous" programs, which is exactly what it should do |
| 18:18.24 | nevcairiel | the asking it also does on one-below-max |
| 18:18.27 | nevcairiel | on programs |
| 18:18.28 | cbreak | isn't screen resolution a user setting? |
| 18:18.30 | Gnarfoz | cbreak: doesn't that only give access to logged-in-user privs? |
| 18:18.35 | Gnarfoz | cbreak: not on windows ;) |
| 18:18.41 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: sigh |
| 18:18.43 | nevcairiel | it is actually |
| 18:18.46 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: do I have to fetch a link? |
| 18:18.49 | cbreak | hmm. I read it installed two drivers for rootkit functionality |
| 18:18.50 | nevcairiel | users can have different resolutions |
| 18:18.54 | Gnarfoz | since when? |
| 18:19.02 | Gnarfoz | maybe if they're not logged in simultaneously |
| 18:19.10 | nevcairiel | well sure |
| 18:19.31 | nevcairiel | i changed the display settings on one user on my laptop, then logged on another, and the second screen turned off again |
| 18:19.39 | Gnarfoz | hehe, well |
| 18:19.44 | Gnarfoz | that's multi-user for you *cough* |
| 18:20.05 | Gnarfoz | also, do I have to find the link to that PoC tool that works even now on 7 to elevate privileges with anything below maximum? :\ |
| 18:20.09 | cbreak | I like my windows neatly tucked away in a VMWare window |
| 18:20.16 | nevcairiel | yes you do, because i dont believe you :p |
| 18:20.28 | |stefan| | Character copy worked now after the quick maintenance =) |
| 18:20.35 | Gnarfoz | cbreak: only safe computer is one that's not plugged in :\ |
| 18:20.57 | cbreak | Gnarfoz: there are some neat other methods to reach almost that level |
| 18:21.07 | cbreak | non-persistent state booting for example |
| 18:21.09 | Ackis | http://www.edmontonhumanesociety.com/images/stories/indycatweb.jpg lol Indy Babe Cats == free |
| 18:21.36 | Maldivia | and in other news, the SC2 launch has been successful so far |
| 18:21.46 | cbreak | launch? |
| 18:21.49 | cbreak | isn't that tomorrow? |
| 18:21.55 | Maldivia | it's already tomorrow in Asia :P |
| 18:22.02 | cbreak | right. cheaters. |
| 18:22.10 | cbreak | DAMN YOU GLOBALISATION! |
| 18:22.19 | Maldivia | damn you Earth rotation |
| 18:22.36 | Maldivia | see, if the Earth was flat, that wouldn't be an issue |
| 18:22.44 | cbreak | if swatch would have had their way, we would have an internet time now. |
| 18:22.52 | cbreak | instead of the old, second based time frame. |
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| 18:23.19 | cog|work | if we all just went by GMT it wouldn't be an issue... |
| 18:23.34 | cog|work | just have local forecasts for what time Noon will be |
| 18:23.52 | Maldivia | cbreak: it @808.beats right now :) |
| 18:24.24 | cbreak | cog|work: logical or physical noon? |
| 18:24.33 | cog|work | physical |
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| 18:24.56 | cbreak | there's probably an app for that |
| 18:24.59 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: site has horrible layout, thus I'm linking you the video demo first: http://leo.lss.com.au/W7E_VID_INT/W7E_VID_INT.htm (full site: http://www.pretentiousname.com/misc/win7_uac_whitelist2.html ) |
| 18:25.25 | nevcairiel | thats already horrible layout for you? |
| 18:25.31 | nevcairiel | i grew up in the geocities days! |
| 18:25.33 | cbreak | http://lexikon.astroinfo.org/java/astrojava.html :) (german) |
| 18:25.55 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: I did, too, but in what order would you read the page? :\ it's backwards chronological order |
| 18:26.08 | nevcairiel | dunno, if it has time stamps, all is good |
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| 18:26.43 | cog|work | cbreak: the point was getting everone to use GMT... mentioning noon was an aside since that's really all time zones are based around |
| 18:26.53 | cog|work | really what* |
| 18:26.58 | cog|work | or something |
| 18:27.09 | cbreak | they often have strange, country shaped bulges |
| 18:27.38 | cbreak | but anyway |
| 18:27.49 | cbreak | changing time is probably much harder than changing temperature |
| 18:27.54 | cbreak | since, what do you use more often? |
| 18:28.05 | cbreak | and I heard there are still people living in the imperial ages. |
| 18:28.34 | Gnarfoz | cbreak: that mythical country to the west, across the atlantic? |
| 18:29.13 | cbreak | you can reach it on the way to india I heard |
| 18:29.21 | cbreak | that data might be out of date though |
| 18:29.51 | Gnarfoz | I'll board a ship and report back to you in 5 months |
| 18:30.18 | cbreak | take some glass pearls and pestilence infected bed cloth with you. |
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| 18:39.23 | Maldivia | fun fact of the day; in the years 1984-1992, Women's solo synchonized swimming was on the Olympic program |
| 18:39.34 | nevcairiel | o.O |
| 18:39.51 | nevcairiel | how could they not see the failure in that |
| 18:40.20 | cloudwolf | Solo synchronized? |
| 18:40.22 | cloudwolf | what? |
| 18:40.32 | cbreak | hmm... CHF 769 for an iPhone 4 :/ |
| 18:40.37 | cbreak | that's rather expensive |
| 18:40.46 | nevcairiel | also wasted |
| 18:41.14 | durcyn | droid zealots are fucking hilarious to listen to |
| 18:41.22 | durcyn | MY PHONE IS BETTER THAN YOURS WHEN I CLOSE MY EYES AND WISH |
| 18:41.28 | nevcairiel | nah, just an apple hater |
| 18:41.29 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: checked the video? :o |
| 18:41.46 | nevcairiel | i'm against all kind of religions :p |
| 18:41.50 | cbreak | about 730 US$ |
| 18:41.50 | Dagmar | If you people kill the SCII purchasing servers tonight, I will be very cross. |
| 18:41.59 | Dagmar | I forgot my goddamn hard token at home |
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| 18:42.20 | Fisker | no durcyn |
| 18:42.24 | Fisker | "My phone is better" |
| 18:42.29 | Fisker | Droid zealots don't need anything else |
| 18:42.31 | durcyn | downloads don't go up for another 22 hours, dagmar |
| 18:42.52 | cbreak | Dagmar: I can give you a code from mine: 818937 |
| 18:42.55 | durcyn | yes fisker, your bulky plastic piece of shit HTC handset with the malfunctioning touchscreen is obviously a superior device |
| 18:43.16 | nevcairiel | so your phone with the malfunctioning antenna is better, eh? :p |
| 18:43.29 | Dagmar | durcyn: Wait, so the people who pre-ordered DVDs will actually be able to play them at midnight, but no one else will? |
| 18:43.31 | durcyn | the hardware is, even with the antenna |
| 18:43.33 | nevcairiel | oh wait, you're just holding it wrong! |
| 18:43.51 | durcyn | Dagmar: 10 AM PST is when the torrent trackers go up |
| 18:43.54 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: it's not a faulty antenne, it's a build in "can't hear you, you're breaking up" feature |
| 18:44.03 | Dagmar | durcyn: keeerist |
| 18:44.09 | Dagmar | Oh well |
| 18:44.10 | nevcairiel | the hardware is not that superior to other current phones |
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| 18:44.19 | durcyn | anyway, the antenna thing is hilariously overblown |
| 18:44.20 | nevcairiel | apple zealots just scream louder |
| 18:44.30 | Dagmar | I guess I'll just get my ass up in the morning and go buy a DVD then |
| 18:44.30 | Fisker | sure durcyn |
| 18:44.37 | Fisker | the malfunctionaing touchscree nis hilariously overblown |
| 18:44.42 | Fisker | touchscreen* |
| 18:44.44 | Maldivia | it's hilariously overblown because Apple has tried to blame everyone else |
| 18:44.45 | nevcairiel | durcyn: i could care less about the issue, just the way jobs handled it was so hilarious, he deserves mocking, alot of it |
| 18:44.45 | Gnarfoz | Dagmar: as if the DVD contained the full game, haha |
| 18:44.49 | Seerah | My touchscreen isn't malfunctional |
| 18:44.49 | Fisker | How is it going durcyn |
| 18:44.59 | Dagmar | I've already had GameStop tell me they plan on closing the doors after they've given out all the pre-order copies, so there's little point in my leaving work a bit early to get there |
| 18:45.00 | Fisker | Is apple caring a lot about their users? |
| 18:45.07 | Fisker | Oh wait, it turns out they're no better than anybody else |
| 18:45.10 | Fisker | bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww |
| 18:45.34 | Gnarfoz | Dagmar: it only contains a late beta build as far as I've heard and you need to update it right after installing :\ |
| 18:45.36 | Seerah | At least you can find whatever you want on the Android Marketplace ;) |
| 18:45.58 | Seerah | even things that have the word iPhone in their description |
| 18:45.59 | Dagmar | I guess I'll just deal with it tomorrow. I just got around to buying that DA:O expansion yesterday anyhoo |
| 18:46.07 | Dagmar | Orlesian chins suck |
| 18:47.08 | Fisker | oh hilarious Seerah |
| 18:47.12 | Fisker | that's like SC2 mapmaking |
| 18:47.16 | Fisker | You can't have Blizzard |
| 18:47.19 | Fisker | Want a mage hero? |
| 18:47.20 | Fisker | Too bad |
| 18:47.22 | Fisker | jackass. |
| 18:47.45 | Fisker | unless you call it snowstorm |
| 18:47.51 | Fisker | or icehurricane |
| 18:48.19 | Fisker | Though hopefully they got past some of that sillyness in retail |
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| 18:56.06 | augustl | dances with his working beta key |
| 18:56.18 | augustl | or something.. |
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| 18:57.19 | Fisker | thank you for helping us test cataclysm augustl |
| 18:57.21 | Maldivia | augustl: hey, if all you want to do is dance with it, give it to me and you can have it back slightly used... |
| 18:58.25 | augustl | uhm. "This version of Cataclysm is only campatible with the English (US) version of World of Warcraft" |
| 18:58.28 | augustl | so I gotta DL a US client? |
| 18:59.04 | Dagmar | Looks like it |
| 18:59.08 | nevcairiel | If you have a US WoW, you need to download a US Cata client |
| 18:59.19 | nevcairiel | there is also a EU cata thing, etc |
| 18:59.23 | Maldivia | there should be a enGB installer |
| 18:59.28 | augustl | ah, the wrong download link was on the home page |
| 18:59.32 | augustl | found a gb client |
| 18:59.35 | Dagmar | It's a shame that even thouhg they're separate clients, they're still allowing bullshit font lice in names |
| 18:59.48 | nevcairiel | they are basically the same client |
| 19:00.11 | augustl | is there a tldr of the licence agreements of cata? |
| 19:00.22 | augustl | license* |
| 19:00.25 | Dagmar | "You have no rights" |
| 19:00.30 | durcyn | nevcairiel: i dunno, usuaully fanboy haters are even more vocal and annoying than the fanboys themselves, it's an entire ecosystem of suck |
| 19:00.31 | cbreak | 3 |
| 19:01.45 | malreth | durcyn: Amen! |
| 19:02.04 | augustl | I wonder what the thought process was in giving addon devs beta access when addons are disabled in the beta :) |
| 19:02.21 | nevcairiel | durcyn: this time around i'm just laughing at apple for finally being exposed |
| 19:02.22 | durcyn | augustl: better bug reports. |
| 19:02.26 | Gnarfoz | augustl: they are mostly sane people? :> |
| 19:02.26 | Lopeppeppy | Get them into the game, patched up, and ready for when they are allowed? |
| 19:02.26 | nevcairiel | no more "we're the good guys" :p |
| 19:02.38 | Gnarfoz | they're kicking out forum trolls now, hehe |
| 19:02.52 | augustl | true, we're likely to know a bit about software development |
| 19:03.01 | Fisker | naw Gnarfoz |
| 19:03.02 | durcyn | nevcairiel: i figure there's a kid in a foxconn factory somewhere trying to paint "HELP ME" in pictographs on the screens, but all he has is yellow dye |
| 19:03.02 | nevcairiel | also that latest GPS/wifi location storing thing was hilarious too |
| 19:03.05 | augustl | although the quality of the software in many addons are *screetch* and *bloop* |
| 19:03.06 | augustl | hides |
| 19:03.07 | Fisker | they're kicking out forum trolls, that get caught |
| 19:03.13 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: hur durrr |
| 19:03.15 | Fisker | *smug* |
| 19:03.39 | Lopeppeppy | Gives devs a chance to make sure that their computers run the beta in a stable (ish) fashion before testing addons? Lets the devs see the game before they go nose-down in their own coding f or it? |
| 19:03.51 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: my phone informs me that it'll collect wifi data even when I'm not using any location based apps, if I turn on wifi-based location thingy |
| 19:03.55 | augustl | 2.2 GB download, 13 gb install size? :O That's some heavy compression |
| 19:04.09 | nevcairiel | augustl: it copies data from your install |
| 19:04.12 | durcyn | augustl: it pulls a large chunk of MPQ data from your live installation |
| 19:04.13 | durcyn | dammit. |
| 19:04.17 | Gnarfoz | split-out installer like PTR |
| 19:04.27 | augustl | but, but. Windows 7 supports symlinks! |
| 19:04.27 | Dagmar | augustl: BE GLAD it can do that |
| 19:04.35 | cloudwolf | Lets just sayy im gonna be downloading for a long time |
| 19:04.45 | cloudwolf | its beena round an hour and a half and im 6% |
| 19:04.50 | cloudwolf | pre patching |
| 19:05.25 | Maldivia | consider tweaking your AV settings |
| 19:05.44 | augustl | perhaps I should do the DL and install on my linux laptop with SSD and then transfer to win pc with hdds ;) |
| 19:05.51 | augustl | pew |
| 19:06.13 | cloudwolf | av settings? |
| 19:06.21 | Ressy | Antivirus |
| 19:06.38 | Ressy | A lot of them will block downloads, or partially block them. |
| 19:06.50 | cloudwolf | Heh my AV is minimal >.> |
| 19:06.54 | cloudwolf | not a thing to admit but oh well |
| 19:07.10 | augustl | Maldivia: ah, that's a good idea |
| 19:07.14 | Dagmar | Scan-on-access will make your disk I/O go to sh*tsville |
| 19:07.24 | Dagmar | Seriously. Disable it for now |
| 19:08.05 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: one more reason to go back to t-offline the next chance I get: http://pastebin.com/40v9kp8x |
| 19:08.13 | cbreak | did you just tell a windows user to surf without protection? |
| 19:08.40 | augustl | are there any info on the addon lua environment in cataclysm? What'll change etc? |
| 19:08.54 | Ressy | kd3's list of changes. |
| 19:09.04 | augustl | Ressy: looking up, tnx |
| 19:09.08 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: meh, i just signed up for alice :p |
| 19:09.19 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: haha, welcome to bad-routing-ville |
| 19:09.24 | Ressy | augustl, kd3 usually sends it out as an email each patch. |
| 19:09.33 | Gnarfoz | of course, you're already in HH, so you're probably still better off. ;-) |
| 19:10.04 | nevcairiel | i hope |
| 19:10.13 | augustl | Ressy: so there's no forum threads? |
| 19:10.13 | nevcairiel | your tracert is 5 hops longer then my local one |
| 19:10.14 | nevcairiel | kinda bad |
| 19:10.22 | Gnarfoz | but seriously, after 9 hops I'm still in their fucking network? with telekom I'm at the damn server at hop 7 :P |
| 19:10.38 | Gnarfoz | hop 8, actually, still bad |
| 19:11.11 | Ressy | Thats really not all that bad to be honest. |
| 19:11.14 | Ressy | Naw augustl. |
| 19:11.18 | Gnarfoz | Ressy: sure is for Germany. |
| 19:11.32 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: not sure how it looks for other ISPs though |
| 19:11.39 | augustl | Ressy: so a blizz dev sends someone e-mails on every patch, you say? Are these emails publicly available somewhere? |
| 19:11.44 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: let's start a survey... god no |
| 19:11.45 | Ressy | Augustl: Best bet is to message kd3, asking for them. |
| 19:11.51 | Ressy | kd3's not a blizz dev. |
| 19:12.02 | augustl | ah |
| 19:12.04 | kd3 | hm? |
| 19:12.10 | nevcairiel | i think koaschten was using kabeldeutschland |
| 19:12.11 | kd3 | oh, message me an email address, I'll put you on the list |
| 19:12.12 | Gnarfoz | augustl: not after the fact, but he can surely add you to his list |
| 19:12.15 | nevcairiel | there we have another one :p |
| 19:12.16 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: indeed |
| 19:12.20 | Ressy | there we go. :) |
| 19:12.55 | augustl | I'm hoping for somewhat of an API rewrite. |
| 19:12.59 | malreth | kd3: too much trouble... can't you just forward us to a page that we can facebook like instead to get that? |
| 19:13.04 | augustl | would be great if the API wasn't so 1:1 with blizzards default UI |
| 19:13.05 | Gnarfoz | haha, augustl |
| 19:13.19 | augustl | i.e having to check the state of an action button to see wether or not overpower is available |
| 19:13.23 | Gnarfoz | it will always be, it only exists because they themselves use it ;) |
| 19:13.47 | augustl | hrmpf |
| 19:13.55 | nevcairiel | maybe you should check how the auction button gets its state |
| 19:13.58 | Gnarfoz | and have they seriously not fixed IsActionUsable to work for those kinds of skills? |
| 19:14.14 | Gnarfoz | or Spell, or whichever |
| 19:14.17 | Gnarfoz | !api Usable |
| 19:14.17 | lua_bot | Found 9 possible results for 'Usable': UPDATE_SHAPESHIFT_USABLE, GetPetActionSlotUsable, PET_BAR_UPDATE_USABLE, ACTIONBAR_UPDATE_USABLE, IsUsableSpell, GetPetActionsUsable, IsUsableItem, IsUsableAction, SPELL_UPDATE_USABLE |
| 19:14.18 | augustl | Gnarfoz: hmm. I haven't checked this stuff in about a year or so |
| 19:14.26 | augustl | back then I was told to check the action button |
| 19:14.27 | Gnarfoz | !api IsUsableAction |
| 19:14.27 | lua_bot | IsUsableAction: Returns whether an action is usable (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/IsUsableAction) |
| 19:14.35 | alestane | If they built it from scratch now, it would probably be a lot more general...I don't know if anyone anticipated, when the stock UI was being designed, how widely add-ons would be adopted. |
| 19:14.37 | augustl | yayay, awesome |
| 19:14.46 | augustl | alestane: yeah exactly |
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| 19:15.07 | Gnarfoz | alestane: do you really think they would? they still have no reason to accomodate "us" further than they already do |
| 19:15.20 | nevcairiel | the API isnt that bad |
| 19:15.27 | nevcairiel | just has some holes |
| 19:16.08 | Gnarfoz | and pitfalls |
| 19:16.11 | Gnarfoz | and pools of lava |
| 19:16.31 | xDD | Gnarfoz: http://pastebin.com/bmhnxDi8 |
| 19:16.32 | alestane | No, but it's not that much harder to design a general API that also fills their needs. And the amount of work they've gone to to keep add-ons onboard and meaningful to the game, when they could much more easily have disabled or severely restricted them, says that someone is able to speak pretty persuasively that they're valuable to the game. |
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| 19:16.58 | nevcairiel | of course |
| 19:17.07 | nevcairiel | disabling them would kill alot of its popularity |
| 19:17.08 | Gnarfoz | alestane: you be hopeful, I'll be "meh" over here :| |
| 19:17.46 | Gnarfoz | xDD: not bad, hehe |
| 19:17.48 | nevcairiel | we've had some good UI people that were open to suggestions, even came here to chat with us and listened to our suggestions |
| 19:17.57 | nevcairiel | i miss the zoot |
| 19:17.59 | Gnarfoz | that was ages ago, sadly :( |
| 19:18.03 | augustl | What are good development setups for Windows? Normally I use emacs on linux for web dev, so I'm not that into windows stuffs. |
| 19:18.11 | Gnarfoz | no Slouken, no Zoot :( |
| 19:18.13 | nevcairiel | notepad++ |
| 19:18.18 | augustl | s/what are goo/what are people using as/ ;) |
| 19:18.19 | alestane | Just look at the whole "secure execution" thing that appeared when TBC was being developed...it would have been WAY easier to just say "Add-ons aren't being used the way we intended and they're damaging the game, so we won't load them anymore." |
| 19:18.35 | augustl | nevcairiel: I'll check that out, tnx |
| 19:19.06 | nevcairiel | it'll probably seem too lightweight, clean, efficient to a emacs user |
| 19:19.07 | nevcairiel | but hey |
| 19:19.12 | augustl | haha |
| 19:19.41 | augustl | I thought I hated IDEs until I installed Eclipse for android dev. It's pretty decent imo. Are there any IDE-ish for addon dev? |
| 19:19.56 | nevcairiel | also i finally managed to convince my video player to use my gfx card for deinterlacing/ivtc |
| 19:20.01 | alestane | There's not much usefulness to an IDE as far as add-ons go. |
| 19:20.29 | nevcairiel | who knew that you had to set it to some specific color space |
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| 19:23.50 | augustl | gief jabber interface for battle net chat |
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| 19:29.19 | Adys | augustl: you'll be pleased to hear bnet chat actually uses jabber |
| 19:30.09 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/why_i_didnt_buy_you_a_drink.jpg <- right on |
| 19:30.22 | augustl | Adys: so any jabber client can authenticate with and use bnet chat? |
| 19:30.30 | Adys | theoretically yes |
| 19:30.35 | Adys | it's just a private network |
| 19:30.48 | augustl | ah, so it's not exposed |
| 19:30.55 | malreth | mikma: tl;dr |
| 19:30.58 | augustl | let's hope they add it in the future then :) |
| 19:31.03 | airtonix | augustl, aptana. |
| 19:31.20 | augustl | airtonix: does it have wow addon stuff in it? |
| 19:31.33 | airtonix | augustl, syntax highlighting ? |
| 19:32.10 | airtonix | btw aptana is based on eclipse |
| 19:32.58 | Gnarfoz | grrrr |
| 19:33.07 | Gnarfoz | is there really no way to hide chat tabs now on live? |
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| 19:45.26 | batrick | mikma: nice |
| 19:48.02 | |stefan| | anyone know what the latest beta build is ? |
| 19:48.26 | kd3 | 12604 |
| 19:48.36 | kd3 | I'll always keep www.wowwiki.com/User:Kaydeethree/patches up-to-date |
| 19:48.37 | |stefan| | thanks |
| 19:49.23 | nevcairiel | should be 2 patches |
| 19:49.28 | nevcairiel | one big one, and a small one |
| 19:50.48 | |stefan| | i thought i'd be playing by now =) but still 1.5gb to download it seems =) |
| 19:51.31 | nevcairiel | be happy that they pushed out a roll-up patch last week |
| 19:51.36 | nevcairiel | or you would be downloading 10 patches |
| 19:53.15 | Gnarfoz | grrr |
| 19:53.26 | Gnarfoz | live chat tabs: right click -> unlock window -> client crashes |
| 19:53.41 | augustl | sue them |
| 19:53.53 | Gnarfoz | I'm not american, sry |
| 19:54.03 | augustl | bomb them |
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| 20:02.52 | Gnarfoz | augustl: same answer? :\ |
| 20:04.24 | augustl | Gnarfoz: play a guitar solo! |
| 20:04.27 | augustl | you never know.. |
| 20:04.55 | Gnarfoz | augustl: I could well do that! |
| 20:04.59 | malreth | do a barrel roll |
| 20:05.15 | Gnarfoz | I couldn't |
| 20:05.15 | augustl | haha, YEAH! |
| 20:05.27 | Gnarfoz | (what is that?) |
| 20:05.49 | augustl | why http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/do-a-barrel-roll of course |
| 20:06.04 | Maldivia | do a rick roll then? |
| 20:08.00 | Fisker | Maldivia |
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| 20:17.36 | cloudwolf | http://myfoodlooksfunny.com/2010/05/17/funny-food-photos-grab-a-mallet-smash-him-before-he-smashes-you/ |
| 20:17.38 | cloudwolf | win? |
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| 20:18.00 | cloudwolf | i don't care if thats shopped its still epic |
| 20:18.31 | cbreak | URLs get longer and longer every day. |
| 20:18.32 | cbreak | lame. |
| 20:18.53 | ^RaK^ | SEO yo |
| 20:19.23 | Yssaril | any word on when we get the next beta patch (so i can level to 83)? |
| 20:20.13 | cog|work | our "word" is in the form of a "maintenance today" post on the general forum |
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| 20:20.29 | augustl | reading vanilla beta patch notes is fun :) http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_0.9 |
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| 20:24.26 | augustl | what are M2 files? Textures? Models? |
| 20:24.32 | augustl | there are lots of them :) |
| 20:25.08 | Arrowmaster | models |
| 20:25.19 | augustl | ah, here comes the .skin files ;) |
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| 20:31.22 | augustl | haha is that the vanilla login screen? |
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| 20:32.06 | Ackis | so people were saying that the author beta keys were working, however there was just an announcement that they aren't working (came from blizz)... I'm going cross-eyed here |
| 20:32.52 | augustl | Ackis: worked for me |
| 20:33.01 | cloudwolf | ackis worked fro me |
| 20:33.29 | Ackis | going with this announcement: http://twitter.com/cursenetwork/status/19599719819 |
| 20:33.30 | augustl | employee pun |
| 20:33.33 | Ackis | shurgs |
| 20:34.09 | augustl | patch notes: The Alliance starting experience. So it's not a starting zone, hehe. |
| 20:35.10 | cloudwolf | Ackis have you triedyoru code or is it irelivent to you? |
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| 20:36.06 | augustl | ah! The 1.5 gb patch is in the beta client download now |
| 20:36.14 | augustl | I only had to dl one 250mb one |
| 20:36.16 | Ackis | my code worked the day I got it, I was in the first batch |
| 20:36.17 | augustl | ..I think.. =P |
| 20:36.32 | cloudwolf | im at 59% downloaded for the patch process |
| 20:36.50 | cloudwolf | K. Well blizzard may not have officially announced anything but it worked for atleast 2 of us |
| 20:38.29 | Fisker | http://imgur.com/KmdKn.png <-repair bot is a bloody traitor |
| 20:39.19 | augustl | anyone in EU able to log in? |
| 20:39.31 | Fisker | SC2? |
| 20:39.42 | augustl | betaz0r |
| 20:39.49 | augustl | cata |
| 20:40.18 | augustl | US works |
| 20:41.27 | Gnarfoz | "character not availabe" *disconnect* |
| 20:42.01 | Arrowmaster | Fisker: i dont get it |
| 20:42.36 | Fisker | Arrowmaster it's just before LK mass killed everyone |
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| 20:59.20 | augustl | anyone know if the hunter pet issue in cata beta has been resolved? |
| 21:00.12 | Maldivia | which issue? |
| 21:00.32 | augustl | apparently the pets would be desummoned all the time |
| 21:02.20 | Ackis | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1297519/Fianc-e-dead-soldier-upset-sister-sells-medals-enjoy-cruise.html :( |
| 21:05.44 | cloudwolf | what a bitch.... |
| 21:06.11 | cloudwolf | Hey son remember your uncle the war hero guess what we have nothing to remember him by! |
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| 21:08.35 | Kraps | penis |
| 21:10.42 | Fisker | p9s |
| 21:12.59 | Kraps | y'know, if he did actually run voa that many times he could have bought the freaking t10 http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26262987745&sid=1 |
| 21:14.40 | Fisker | maybe he was talking about 25-man T10! |
| 21:16.47 | Kraps | not to judge, but a guy like that doesnt seem be make-or-break on a few stat points |
| 21:17.20 | augustl | can you set pet stance in the beta? On level 2 I can't set it to passive |
| 21:17.23 | Dagmar | Are you kidding? It would be the END OF THE WORLD if he were seen wearing merely T9 |
| 21:17.43 | alestane | Hunters can't give their pet orders until level 10, it's stuck on defensive until then. |
| 21:17.46 | Dagmar | august1: Does the console command still work? |
| 21:17.49 | augustl | alestane: I see, thanks |
| 21:17.53 | Dagmar | Ohh... <10 yeah you don't get controls |
| 21:20.40 | cloudwolf | do want http://myfoodlooksfunny.com/2010/04/07/funny-food-photos-slug-brain-cupcakes/ |
| 21:22.58 | augustl | this has got to be the most comprehensive of the expansions |
| 21:23.36 | Chump | Yes. |
| 21:25.16 | augustl | woot, a one handed staff |
| 21:25.33 | augustl | http://cata.wowhead.com/item=57242 |
| 21:25.52 | Kraps | heh |
| 21:25.52 | cloudwolf | augustl how dare you ifnish download stuff before me lol |
| 21:25.53 | xDD | :o can we has dual wield them |
| 21:26.05 | xDD | aww bop |
| 21:26.12 | xDD | from a quest |
| 21:27.52 | augustl | cloudwolf: aww :) |
| 21:27.57 | augustl | I has fiberz |
| 21:28.09 | cloudwolf | damn you fiberz |
| 21:28.13 | cloudwolf | im nly 77% patched |
| 21:28.17 | cloudwolf | im on comcrap |
| 21:28.23 | cloudwolf | because verizon fios isn't in my area |
| 21:28.26 | cloudwolf | and prolly never will be |
| 21:28.34 | augustl | norway ftw, fiber everywhere |
| 21:28.43 | cloudwolf | fuck you norway :D |
| 21:29.46 | Maldivia | what good is fiber if they cap it at low speeds |
| 21:32.25 | Yssaril | Maldivia: at least then there is potential for a better future :P |
| 21:33.17 | Kraps | every healthy diet should have fiber |
| 21:34.19 | Maldivia | Yssaril: by the time they uncap it, something better has come along |
| 21:34.33 | Yssaril | such as? |
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| 21:35.09 | augustl | I feel like a good beta citizen. Reporting lots of bugs! |
| 21:35.29 | Maldivia | Yssaril: sub-space, faster than light speed, transmissions? |
| 21:35.41 | Maldivia | Yssaril: who knows, I'm not that kind of scientist |
| 21:36.21 | cloudwolf | Until you can come up with a reliable way to send information faster than the speed of light |
| 21:36.29 | cloudwolf | thank you for your input |
| 21:37.01 | Yssaril | fiber data lines are "ancient" technology and its just now getting to homes and i havent heard of aanything faster at this point (exept maybe quantum entaglement but that is years/dacades/centurys before being viable) |
| 21:37.03 | Maldivia | cloudwolf: well, as I just said, that's not my job to figure out |
| 21:37.20 | Kraps | wonders if this is another Evony http://war2reg.wistone.com/?gclid=CKSJ8uqSiqMCFQR75QodJlLgfw |
| 21:37.20 | xDD | why would quantum entanglement be faster? |
| 21:37.39 | Arrowmaster | it wouldnt from what i understand of it |
| 21:37.41 | xDD | you still have to transfer 4 bits of data over traditional communication channels afaik |
| 21:38.03 | cloudwolf | theres a theory out there that it can be done through the fact that things at the quantum level have no real predictable nature and if you filter out all speedof light of sub speed oflight particels the random chance of a particle goign faster than the speed oflight can be done some odd sceince show on the science channel talkinga bout it |
| 21:38.04 | Dashkal | Point to point light-speed would be plenty faster than fiber. Depending just how much bandwidth you can squeese out of an entangled pair |
| 21:38.34 | Dashkal | and that ^^ |
| 21:38.36 | Maldivia | add more pairs then |
| 21:39.08 | xDD | Dashkal: You still have to send 4 bits per entangled pair thing traditionally afaik |
| 21:39.10 | Dashkal | Depends on how expensive each pair is to produce. |
| 21:39.25 | xDD | and you can only measure it once, right? after that you can't change its state anymore |
| 21:39.30 | Dashkal | xDD: With our current knolwedge: maybe, They're working on that |
| 21:40.02 | Dashkal | I doubt they can make it instant, but they should be able to get it light speed point2point. Which is plenty fast for terrestrial communication./ |
| 21:40.04 | xDD | How many bits of information can be encoded in that quantum pair anyway? |
| 21:41.25 | xDD | If it's > 4 couldn't you just disregard the 4 significant bits and use the rest? |
| 21:41.28 | Dashkal | Mind you, I don't doubt that eventually (read, perhaps next year, perhaps in a thousand) we'll figure a way to break the light-speed limit. But *shrugs* who knows if we'll live to see it. |
| 21:41.59 | xDD | Better get started making some life extending device :D |
| 21:42.24 | Dashkal | eh, getting zapped back to life every few hours doesn't excite me. Sides, the engineer said he'd break me. |
| 21:42.36 | Dashkal | <3 tf2 comics |
| 21:43.18 | xDD | Didn't they modify a gene of that one-day fly species to make it live a couple of weeks? |
| 21:43.34 | cloudwolf | dashkal link? |
| 21:43.41 | xDD | WTB a method for gene modifications of cellules that already exist ^^ |
| 21:44.21 | Dashkal | cloudwolf: the tf2 comic? |
| 21:44.30 | cloudwolf | yes please |
| 21:44.39 | Dashkal | part of the engineer update. probably still on the first page of teamfortress.com |
| 21:46.26 | cloudwolf | last i went to that website |
| 21:46.28 | cloudwolf | they updated about contest info |
| 21:46.34 | cloudwolf | new weapons and hats are coming in game around october |
| 21:46.36 | cloudwolf | fan made |
| 21:47.04 | augustl | aww, still not able to log into the EU realm (where my premade is) |
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| 21:47.09 | Dashkal | heh, there's been a couple waves of those since then |
| 21:47.17 | Dashkal | Some of the new items are pretty damn cool, too. |
| 21:47.32 | cloudwolf | damn patch is only at 78% |
| 21:47.54 | cloudwolf | this patch went like lol 1 10 11 12 13 14 15 ..... 25... 70..............................73........................75.................78........ |
| 21:48.29 | augustl | at 70 it has finished downloading and does some HD stuff that takes ages |
| 21:48.40 | augustl | I have 2x 10 000 RPM disks in raid 0 so it was pretty fast here though, muhaha |
| 21:49.12 | cloudwolf | augustl yeah well i have a 500gb hard drive prolly only at 7200 rpm with out raid bohohoho |
| 21:49.23 | cog|work | SWEET! |
| 21:49.34 | cog|work | i get free wine! |
| 21:49.39 | cloudwolf | grats? |
| 21:49.50 | Maldivia | 0-10%: downloader downloader, 10-70%: download patch, 70-99%: patch, 100: check if more patches are needed and reset to 0 if so |
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| 21:50.36 | cog|work | cloudwolf: i've worked here for 6.5 years and we've always had to pay for our wine. 50% discount is great, but it doesn't amount to much when the wine starts at $75-$90/bottle |
| 21:50.56 | cloudwolf | You work at a winery? |
| 21:50.57 | cog|work | starting this release we all get 2 of each bottling |
| 21:51.28 | cog|work | http://www.kistlervineyards.com/ |
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| 21:52.49 | cloudwolf | Sounds like intersting work |
| 21:52.52 | cloudwolf | Kind of ... |
| 21:53.18 | cog|work | for varying definitions of "interesting" i suppose :P |
| 21:54.40 | cog|work | i was hired as an office monkey temp for $13/hour. My first day here i sent some faxes and talked to people on the phone. |
| 21:54.45 | cloudwolf | Well I mean its intersting but to me its not a job i would want to do |
| 21:55.02 | cog|work | but now i'm the IT department, web developer, and database programmer |
| 21:55.19 | cloudwolf | heh |
| 21:56.12 | cog|work | (and i still have to answer phones and deal with customers) |
| 21:56.37 | NightHawkTheSane | 2 of each bottling is a rather nice perk... |
| 21:57.02 | cog|work | actually, it is kindof interesting... every time i have to change something in the Access database, I learn about entirely new categories of seriously fucked up programming practices |
| 21:57.03 | Yssaril | cog|work: how many total employes? |
| 21:57.25 | cog|work | the *inherited* access database |
| 21:57.48 | Fisker | hey cog|work |
| 21:57.49 | Fisker | i want you |
| 21:57.53 | cog|work | Yssaril: 5 in the office, including myself. Two of them are temps who have been here for a year or two... |
| 21:58.11 | cog|work | plus 2 VPs and the vineyard manager |
| 21:58.19 | cog|work | (owner doesn't even have an e-mail address let alone a computer) |
| 21:58.25 | Fisker | cog|work |
| 21:58.29 | Fisker | why won't you want me? |
| 21:58.36 | cog|work | cuz ur a dood |
| 21:58.38 | cog|work | or a fish |
| 21:58.40 | cog|work | either way |
| 22:00.12 | Fisker | :( |
| 22:00.23 | Fisker | what do you call those thing you screw cogs on? |
| 22:00.27 | Fisker | i could be that |
| 22:03.08 | Kraps | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bejeweled_Twist looooooooooooooooool |
| 22:03.22 | Kraps | "When the timer gets down to zero, an explosion maybe occurs, up to the chance from one fourth to one half, the game ends when the bomb gem explodes. |
| 22:04.07 | Maldivia | wow.... |
| 22:04.18 | Maldivia | think I lost afew brain cells trying to read that |
| 22:04.46 | Lunessa | currently loathes all things Adobe. |
| 22:04.50 | Kraps | no mention of the stupid wheel of luck |
| 22:05.07 | Yssaril | Lunessa: whats wrong with adobe? |
| 22:06.19 | Lunessa | Aside from Flash being a festering pile of suck? Acrobat installer breaking the plug-in functions in upgrade installs? And the LiveCycle designer for PDF forms making me want to stab myself in the face with a spork? Nothing. |
| 22:06.40 | xDD | Flash crashed at least 3 times for me today :/ |
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| 22:06.58 | Cairenn|afk | doesn't loathe all things Adobe - Photoshop rocks! |
| 22:07.16 | Kraps | "hey, here is a skill based game! but watch out! if you dont play well enough you get one chance to redeem yourself... by pressing a button and hoping the wheel stops in the right place!" |
| 22:07.48 | cloudwolf | lol 85% patched >.< |
| 22:07.55 | cloudwolf | damn you slow computer! |
| 22:08.12 | Fisker | you probably pirated Cairenn|afk |
| 22:08.13 | Fisker | yarrrrrrgh |
| 22:08.33 | Cairenn|afk | Well, I have been called a wench more than once, but no |
| 22:09.11 | Bruners | Fisker: noone can afford to buy photoshop |
| 22:09.18 | Fisker | exactly Bruners |
| 22:09.35 | Cairenn|afk | lots of people can afford to buy Photoshop |
| 22:09.44 | Cairenn|afk | go go student version pricing! |
| 22:09.47 | cloudwolf | be a student get it fro like 200 |
| 22:09.54 | Bruners | sure, lots of people got private yets as well |
| 22:10.01 | Cairenn|afk | them too |
| 22:10.06 | augustl | general suggestions: in game feedback form or forums? |
| 22:10.11 | Fisker | are you a student Cairenn|afk ? |
| 22:10.15 | Cairenn|afk | no |
| 22:10.19 | cloudwolf | Come on man private jets also fall under student pricing |
| 22:10.29 | Fisker | i want that cloudwolf |
| 22:10.33 | Fisker | unless it's cheaper to pirate it |
| 22:10.52 | Maldivia | augustl: ingame -- if you want other people to comment on your suggestion, use the forum |
| 22:11.18 | Lunessa | My last personal copy of Photoshop was version 5, purchased at full retail. |
| 22:11.24 | ccox | And if you make money from using Photoshop, the price isn't that bad (like half a day's work for a photographer) |
| 22:11.49 | Fisker | naw Lunessa |
| 22:11.52 | Fisker | you totally pirated it |
| 22:11.53 | Fisker | yarrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 22:11.57 | Lunessa | Photoshop is actually an Adobe product I like - most of the time. |
| 22:12.11 | augustl | Maldivia: I see, thanks |
| 22:12.15 | ccox | Though I did have to get a job in college even to afford the student edition... |
| 22:12.20 | Bruners | i just use gimp instead of pirating photoshop |
| 22:12.30 | Lunessa | And work supplies CS4 for my work needs. |
| 22:13.13 | Dagmar | Bruners: You == awesome |
| 22:14.05 | Maldivia | ccox: half a day... so a photographer makes $3600/day ? |
| 22:14.23 | cloudwolf | 85% downloaded/patched lol hmm it dfoens't like amb_cityoforgrimmargoblinslums_day01.wav |
| 22:14.26 | Cairenn|afk | a good one? hell yes |
| 22:14.46 | ccox | Maldiva - retail Photoshop is $650 (amazon) |
| 22:14.55 | Grum | getting jobs for more than 1 day is a challenge though ;) |
| 22:15.02 | Fisker | as a retort ccox i can mention |
| 22:15.05 | Fisker | "YARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR" |
| 22:15.11 | Maldivia | yeah ok, was looking at creative suite |
| 22:15.12 | Dagmar | Either way, pirating something you're getting paid to use would be lame |
| 22:15.43 | ccox | yes, pirating something then making money using that product -- I'm sure there's a circle in Hell reserved for those people |
| 22:15.46 | Cairenn|afk | ^^ |
| 22:15.49 | Grum | if you are getting paid to use it and you can set your own fee, yeah, make the people you work for pay for it :) |
| 22:16.25 | Maldivia | I pirated WoW... found a nifty downloader for it online! |
| 22:16.25 | cloudwolf | coudln't you write it off as a buisness expense? |
| 22:16.33 | Cairenn|afk | that too |
| 22:16.35 | Fisker | sweet Maldivia |
| 22:16.39 | Grum | Maldivia: but you cant make money of that! |
| 22:16.41 | ccox | cloudwolf: yes |
| 22:16.47 | Maldivia | Grum: gold farming? |
| 22:16.48 | Grum | or you selling gold on your private server ?:D |
| 22:16.54 | ccox | along with the computer you use to edit photos |
| 22:17.47 | ccox | Maldivia: even Photoshop extended is only $975 on Amazon, so worst case that would be $2k per day |
| 22:18.04 | ccox | (which is easy enough for an advertising pro) |
| 22:18.27 | ccox | (and not so easy for us wildlife types, unless we get a long term contract) |
| 22:18.45 | Maldivia | so $500k/yeah - I think I picked the wrong profession |
| 22:18.58 | Maldivia | year* |
| 22:19.17 | cloudwolf | Maldivia i would say thats only if your a good photographer |
| 22:19.49 | cloudwolf | I expect its a competative profession |
| 22:19.49 | ccox | yes, it can be competitive |
| 22:19.56 | ccox | Though, I swear, these days everyone makes money from Photoshop by writing books about how to use it.... |
| 22:20.19 | cloudwolf | lol |
| 22:20.45 | Maldivia | people can't figure out Adobe's so very entuitive UI? |
| 22:20.56 | cloudwolf | step 1) turn on computer step 2) log in step 3) open cd drive step 4) install step5) register step 6)restart computer |
| 22:21.17 | ccox | Maldivia: just too deep for most folks to wrap their heads around |
| 22:21.31 | ccox | those of us who've used it for 20 years don't find it so difficult |
| 22:21.33 | Maldivia | really¡ |
| 22:21.47 | cloudwolf | Id pay for a damn book on Gimp before photoshop |
| 22:21.48 | ccox | http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Photoshop-CS5-Photographers-professional/dp/0240522001/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1280182630&sr=8-8 |
| 22:21.51 | cloudwolf | gimp is confusing as hell |
| 22:21.58 | ccox | ^^ it's not a book, it's a free weight with pages |
| 22:22.30 | cloudwolf | if im paying 34 how is it free? :D |
| 22:22.34 | Maldivia | I don't get it, why buy a book for something like that - you're at a computer, why not search for a solution online |
| 22:22.40 | cloudwolf | dont you mean its not a book its a $34 weight |
| 22:22.45 | Bruners | Photoshop do really have loads of advanced functions people rarely use |
| 22:22.56 | ccox | Bruners: yep |
| 22:22.59 | cloudwolf | i think i have photoshop cs3 >.> |
| 22:23.03 | Yssaril | Lunessa: hehe i get CS4 for $10 for personal use from work :) |
| 22:23.37 | Lunessa | Yssaril: I wish. I can get an EDU discount, but it's still like $200. |
| 22:23.55 | Grum | pfft i'm already paying for internet! that is enough ;D |
| 22:23.55 | Bruners | isn't there a gimp clone with photoshop "look" ? |
| 22:24.10 | ccox | Bruners: yeah, but I haven't seen it updated in years |
| 22:24.33 | cog|work | Maldivia: books usually do a better job at presenting big picture concepts (no pun intended) than references or tutorials |
| 22:24.39 | Yssaril | Lunessa: helps to work for a company that buys thousands of adobe liscenses :) (Fedex Office (used to be Kinkos)) |
| 22:24.44 | Cairenn|afk | I got my copy of PS back when I was a Brownie leader (think Girl Scouts) |
| 22:24.55 | Grum | http://gimpshop.com/ that is old indeed haha |
| 22:25.39 | Lunessa | Yssaril: *nod* I don't even have it installed - I'm not even sure how my old PS5 would run on Windows 7. |
| 22:27.05 | robokitty | So.. |
| 22:27.07 | robokitty | Mr Fisker |
| 22:27.16 | robokitty | How much is this SC2 key I'm holding worth it to you |
| 22:27.26 | Grum | 12c |
| 22:27.42 | Warloco | says there are no char copies when I try copy my chars :( |
| 22:28.08 | ccox | About $0 after midnight tomorrow |
| 22:28.16 | Warloco | "There are no World of Warcraft Game Licenses attached to this Battle.Net Account." |
| 22:28.24 | Warloco | whats up with that |
| 22:28.34 | cloudwolf | you tyring to copy from eu when your us? |
| 22:28.35 | ccox | You may have forgotten to connect the accounts |
| 22:28.37 | cloudwolf | or form us when yoru eu? |
| 22:29.03 | Warloco | how do I connext them ccox? |
| 22:29.18 | Warloco | @ cloud, I tried it from the battle.net website when I was logged in |
| 22:29.25 | ccox | there should be something on the battle.net site about how to do it |
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| 22:31.31 | Maldivia | robokitty: where did you buy it ? |
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| 22:37.31 | Warloco | got it |
| 22:37.32 | cloudwolf | the patcher hates the goblin content keeps locking up slighlty on it |
| 22:37.54 | robokitty | Gamestop |
| 22:38.08 | Warloco | there was something you had to do with the realm list right? |
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| 22:38.54 | cloudwolf | i think you chagned one of them to test instead of beta |
| 22:39.32 | augustl | how many people are in the beta now? Hundreds? Thousands? |
| 22:40.12 | cloudwolf | i would say thousands |
| 22:40.19 | cloudwolf | just from wowi theres around 400 |
| 22:40.25 | cloudwolf | thats ignoring other websites getting keys |
| 22:40.35 | cloudwolf | and the people who were pre that |
| 22:40.37 | Cairenn|afk | Warloco: go in to the realmlist.wtf in the Data folder and change it from public-beta to public-test |
| 22:40.47 | augustl | ya makes sense |
| 22:40.54 | Kraps | alien swarm is all laggy on this pc :( |
| 22:41.24 | cloudwolf | I also know of 3 sites getting keys so heh |
| 22:41.32 | cloudwolf | if they are all at 400 :P were already past 1000 |
| 22:41.42 | Cairenn|afk | they aren't |
| 22:42.00 | cloudwolf | Well just doing fail mathz :D |
| 22:42.21 | Cairenn|afk | That's a special deal I worked out with Blizz back with the first expansion, strictly for addon authors |
| 22:42.32 | Cairenn|afk | they subsequently gave it to Curse as well |
| 22:42.36 | cloudwolf | Cairenn what about wowace? and curse |
| 22:42.40 | Cairenn|afk | no other fansites have anything like it |
| 22:42.42 | cloudwolf | thats what i meant by 3 sites |
| 22:42.49 | Cairenn|afk | ace falls under curse |
| 22:42.56 | cloudwolf | K |
| 22:43.39 | Warloco | I still use wowace, I like how I can get many curse addons there without actually going to curse |
| 22:43.45 | ajmitch | how long do you plan to keep the key giveaway open for? |
| 22:43.57 | cloudwolf | not her its up to blizzard ajmitch |
| 22:43.59 | Cairenn|afk | authors may be getting keys from curse, but they still owe me the thanks, I'm the one that set it all up originally :p |
| 22:44.04 | augustl | I don't get curse.. Is anyone using it for anything besides getting addons? :) It does so much stuff. |
| 22:45.28 | ccox | ** Thank you Cairenn ** |
| 22:45.31 | Warloco | so I copied some chars, they are listed as succesfully copied, I can see them on the char list, but when I try login it says the char doesnt exist |
| 22:45.32 | Cairenn|afk | lol |
| 22:45.41 | cloudwolf | And yes thank you cairenn |
| 22:45.42 | Cairenn|afk | hugs ccox |
| 22:45.51 | ccox | hugs Cairenn|afk |
| 22:46.06 | Warloco | I read that as "Cairenn|afk huge coxx" |
| 22:46.15 | Warloco | and I went.. >.> <.< |
| 22:46.23 | Cairenn|afk | unh ... no? |
| 22:46.32 | Warloco | exactly |
| 22:46.42 | Warloco | im dyslectic, I can't help it |
| 22:46.46 | Warloco | >.> |
| 22:47.17 | cloudwolf | And im dysgraphic were the whole dys familiy! |
| 22:47.20 | cloudwolf | were dysfunctional! |
| 22:47.41 | Warloco | so erm, anyone have any idea what the problem I said above is? |
| 22:47.49 | ajmitch | should get back to fixing up an addon so he can save up some gold for cataclysm :) |
| 22:47.58 | cloudwolf | May not have been totally processed? |
| 22:48.22 | Adys | HOLY CRAP SLASHDOT HAS BEEN SLASHDOTTED |
| 22:48.25 | Adys | morning all |
| 22:48.30 | augustl | Warloco: EU realm? |
| 22:48.39 | augustl | Warloco: happens to all my EU chars. US realms works. |
| 22:48.45 | ajmitch | slashdot falling over? say it isn't so |
| 22:49.09 | Warloco | oh, but I cant copy my chars to us realms I dont think >.< |
| 22:49.28 | augustl | they'll probably fix it ;) |
| 22:49.41 | augustl | got premade and copied chars on EU too :S |
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| 22:51.29 | augustl | ugh I wish there was a way to cancel a submitted bug report.. |
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| 22:55.14 | cloudwolf | engrishfunny.com makes me happy |
| 22:56.02 | Adys | So |
| 22:56.06 | Adys | anyone familiar with speedreading? |
| 22:56.13 | Adys | I just invented speedwatching |
| 22:56.36 | Adys | two episodes per screen running at 2.5x speed |
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| 22:56.48 | cloudwolf | sounds painfull |
| 22:56.55 | cloudwolf | also how the fuck do you deal with the sounds |
| 22:57.03 | cloudwolf | super squeaky clashing sounds |
| 22:57.34 | Adys | i keep 3 quietish and keep one of my choice louder |
| 22:57.37 | Adys | sometimes changing it |
| 22:57.48 | cloudwolf | sounds like ruining perfectly good shows |
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| 22:58.44 | augustl | so many bugs.. |
| 22:59.25 | Warloco | when I go to the forums, I also cant select any character- any idea whats up with that? |
| 23:00.26 | Cairenn|afk | give it time to refresh |
| 23:00.34 | Cairenn|afk | you only just copied them over today |
| 23:00.40 | Warloco | or is it a matter of my copies being only half copied? |
| 23:00.48 | Warloco | yeah thats what I was thinking Cairen |
| 23:01.15 | Warloco | anxious to show my face in beta :p |
| 23:01.53 | Warloco | if I create a new char, should that work? |
| 23:02.32 | Cairenn|afk | don |
| 23:02.34 | Cairenn|afk | dpn |
| 23:02.36 | Cairenn|afk | grrrr |
| 23:02.39 | Cairenn|afk | don't know |
| 23:02.48 | Cairenn|afk | *gets fingers on right keys eventually* |
| 23:03.44 | Warloco | hehe |
| 23:03.54 | Warloco | doesnt seem to work, I get a message "Failure" |
| 23:04.14 | Warloco | oh right, when I make it non-worgren I can create it |
| 23:06.03 | Warloco | man, goblin racials are pretty win |
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| 23:09.38 | cloudwolf | I hope htey ballance the other racials to match |
| 23:11.29 | Warloco | hope so |
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| 23:22.24 | jnwhiteh | augustl: someone reported that their beta key worked? |
| 23:22.43 | jnwhiteh | but I think you saw that =) |
| 23:23.32 | augustl | jnwhiteh: ya :) |
| 23:23.39 | augustl | jnwhiteh: got a level 8 tauren hunter already |
| 23:23.41 | jnwhiteh | but i said i'd ping you =) |
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| 23:24.17 | augustl | tnx :) |
| 23:25.54 | cloudwolf | warlocos, augustl's and my key all worked. |
| 23:27.05 | augustl | anyone online in the US author guild? |
| 23:27.49 | augustl | mikma: you can invite ya? |
| 23:28.12 | cloudwolf | woo 108 mb more patching |
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| 23:30.28 | alestane | soothes Cairenn|afk and and marks her homerow keys. |
| 23:30.42 | Cairenn|afk | :p |
| 23:31.00 | cloudwolf | i have bumps on the homerow buttons f and j |
| 23:31.02 | cloudwolf | :D |
| 23:31.17 | Cairenn|afk | so do I, so does most everyone |
| 23:31.30 | cloudwolf | my laptop doesn't exactly have good ones |
| 23:31.42 | cloudwolf | I can't really feel the ones on my laptop |
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| 23:33.30 | Cairenn|afk | RJohn: did you see the news about the keys working now? |
| 23:36.51 | cloudwolf | ok so female goblins are ok looking males are just fugly |
| 23:37.06 | Cairenn|afk | they're goblins, what did you expect? |
| 23:37.20 | cloudwolf | ugly females also |
| 23:38.48 | Cairenn|afk | k. Just the way you said it, you sounded like you expected them all to look like models or something :p |
| 23:39.12 | cloudwolf | shoulda said males then females :P |
| 23:42.12 | Kraps | hey if you're a woman cosplaying at comic-con you should expect weirdos coming up to you and recording videos for youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpC8Mwhi21E |
| 23:42.17 | Kraps | just sayin |
| 23:43.21 | A-KO | not that they don't like it |
| 23:44.28 | Kraps | a few did look uncomfortable; |
| 23:46.00 | Cairenn|afk | I liked the one .... "this is my husband" |
| 23:47.01 | Cairenn|afk | (like that has EVER made a difference in whether or not someone would have fantasies about a hot chick later) |
| 23:50.18 | cloudwolf | lol soulja boy... |
| 23:52.27 | Kraps | wow a woman is RPing Scully |
| 23:54.31 | Sesshu | someone of you can invite to the beta guild on eu horde? |
| 23:55.39 | Lunessa | It's comic con, naturally there are hot geek chicks. :D |
| 23:56.17 | MoonWitch | hey Cairenn *wink* |
| 23:57.05 | Cairenn|afk | hiya MoonWitch |
| 23:57.40 | Kraps | Lunessa: the Link at the end is pretty awesome http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isJQzYlk5WA&feature=watch_response |
| 23:59.33 | MoonWitch | I swear, I gotta go to comic con one day |
| 23:59.43 | MoonWitch | with a 200GB hard drive for the pictures |
