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| 00:03.30 | Warloco | \o/ Glory of the Icecrown Raider (25) :D |
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| 00:04.04 | |Jelly| | :( |
| 00:04.14 | Jerub | Warloco: win! |
| 00:04.15 | |Jelly| | I can't get people to drops their downs for one night. |
| 00:04.20 | Jerub | i'm still 6/12 norm |
| 00:04.21 | Jerub | :/ |
| 00:04.25 | |Jelly| | So that we can even kill the LK. :( |
| 00:04.35 | Warloco | >.< |
| 00:04.48 | Warloco | whata re you stuck on? |
| 00:05.07 | Jerub | Warloco: i'm stuck on not having a guild :P |
| 00:05.09 | |Jelly| | People drooling on themselves in P2 on LK. But my guild all but fell apart anyway so meh. |
| 00:05.30 | Warloco | ah |
| 00:05.39 | Warloco | our guild was really falling apart like a week ago |
| 00:05.43 | Warloco | due to summer |
| 00:05.50 | Warloco | then sign ups started coming back this week |
| 00:06.09 | Mike-N-Go | ~staple shirik |
| 00:06.20 | Warloco | and we finally got sindragosa 25hc, and right after we went and did all achievements |
| 00:07.06 | Warloco | did Neck Deep in Vile and Been Waiting a long time both in the same fight :D |
| 00:07.11 | |Jelly| | Dear Peppy: I hate because I want to play. <3 Jelly |
| 00:07.21 | Kraps | a new beta build already? |
| 00:07.46 | Lopeppeppy | new beta build today, and servers are down for maint. |
| 00:07.55 | Warloco | hope they fix the beta keys soonish >.< |
| 00:08.13 | alestane | Probably bug fixes mostly, Kraps. |
| 00:08.15 | cloudwolf | as do i warloco |
| 00:08.28 | Kraps | alestane: not according to mmoc |
| 00:08.36 | Warloco | you got yours aswell Cloud? Nice |
| 00:08.43 | |Jelly| | I already warned my neighbor that I'm going to own his internet connection. LETS GET THIS DOWNLOAD GOING! :P |
| 00:09.03 | cloudwolf | lol jelly your hijacking your neighbors internet? |
| 00:09.21 | |Jelly| | He gave me his WPA key. :) |
| 00:09.31 | |Jelly| | ... but yes |
| 00:09.58 | |Jelly| | Long story short: job transition where both my roomie and I had our paychecks held and rent > internet. |
| 00:10.27 | Kraps | |Jelly|: how fast is his connection? |
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| 00:14.50 | alestane | "Soul Swap *New* - You instantly deal 167.45 damage, and removing your damage-over-time effects from the target. For 20 sec afterword, the next target you cast Soul Swap on will be afflicted by the damage-over-time effects and suffer 167.45 damage. You cannot Soul Swap to the same target. / 6% of base mana, 30 yd range, Instant cast, 45 sec cooldown" |
| 00:14.53 | alestane | That's freaky. |
| 00:15.09 | Warloco | warlock? |
| 00:16.20 | alestane | Affliction. |
| 00:16.30 | Warloco | nice |
| 00:16.34 | Warloco | affli kind of needed it |
| 00:16.38 | Warloco | demo/destro not really |
| 00:16.53 | alestane | And Affliction also gets a Focus Power sort of "Buff one person in your group" thing. |
| 00:17.04 | Warloco | holy crap for a patch so quickly after the last one, there seems to be a ton of changes |
| 00:17.55 | alestane | "Dark Intent *New* - You link yourself with the targeted friendly target, increasing both of your haste by 3%. When you or the linked target gains a critical periodic damage or healing effect, the other gains an increased 3% increased periodic damage and healing lasting for 7 sec. Stacks up to 3 times. Dark Intent lasts for 30 min. / 6% of base mana, 30 yd range, Instant cast" |
| 00:18.24 | alestane | That would be sick to put on a resto druid. |
| 00:18.46 | Corrodias | ho ho ho |
| 00:18.56 | Warloco | I dont think resto druids will be blanketing the raid as much in cata though |
| 00:19.02 | A-KO | they won't |
| 00:19.23 | Gnarfoz | Warloco: it's not like the builds that go out reflect their internal developement status closely |
| 00:19.30 | alestane | Still...every time their hots crit, your dots do more damage, and every time your dots crit, they heal for more? |
| 00:19.54 | Warloco | Grarl: What I mean is; in the current raiding environment that seems insanely powerful assuming hots get to crit |
| 00:19.58 | Gnarfoz | they're usually (sometimes even quite) a bit ahead of what's on beta servers |
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| 00:20.04 | Warloco | but in reality it might work out being a lot weaker |
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| 00:20.32 | Jerub | resto druids will be critting lots tho |
| 00:20.39 | Jerub | lifeblooming tanks will be normal |
| 00:20.43 | NeoTron | Dark Intent will be for warlocks only of course |
| 00:20.44 | Jerub | without norusih refreshes |
| 00:20.50 | Jerub | so more than 1 hot or heal hit a second |
| 00:20.54 | NeoTron | it's a warlock club like mages have now ;-) |
| 00:20.55 | Jerub | s/without/with/ |
| 00:21.15 | Jerub | NeoTron: i'm thinking locks or resto druids |
| 00:21.23 | Warloco | Ive actually managed to get our arcane mages to not put focus magic on other arcane mages |
| 00:21.30 | Jerub | Warloco: amazing! |
| 00:21.33 | NeoTron | if there's only one lock maybe... :P |
| 00:21.40 | NeoTron | but if there's two ,it's cross-lock love :P |
| 00:22.21 | Jerub | Warloco: my mage always gets coerced into a magelovering |
| 00:22.27 | Corrodias | that's not allowed in some states |
| 00:22.44 | Jerub | australia decriminalised sodomy a long while ago |
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| 00:22.53 | Warloco | I told our mages they could put it on eachother again when they spec fire :p |
| 00:22.59 | Corrodias | oh, is that what warlocks do! |
| 00:23.17 | Jerub | Warloco: meh fire |
| 00:23.27 | Warloco | lets be honest, were an 11/12 icc 25hc guild, our mages *should* be fire >_< |
| 00:23.41 | Jerub | Warloco: but more than 4 buttons and they get confused! |
| 00:23.55 | Mirrormn | fire's easier to play than arcane tbh |
| 00:24.08 | Mirrormn | and also only uses 3 buttons :P |
| 00:24.11 | Jerub | Mirrormn: what's harder than hitting 1 button until a buff appears then hitting the other one. |
| 00:24.14 | Warloco | fire is only 3 buttons though! |
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| 00:24.18 | Warloco | hehe |
| 00:24.28 | |Jelly| | Kraps: Sorry, I went AFK (obviously) 12 down. |
| 00:24.46 | Jerub | and if you want to burn mana, you just use the one button |
| 00:25.08 | Warloco | if I want to burn mana, I cast seed of corruption :D |
| 00:25.17 | Mirrormn | Jerub have you played an arcane mage in end game content? |
| 00:25.19 | Warloco | Its a very effective way of burning mana |
| 00:25.25 | Warloco | it burns my mana, and that of my healers |
| 00:26.05 | Jerub | Mirrormn: not really. :P he popped 80 in march and i haven't snuck him into icc's yet |
| 00:26.16 | Jerub | found it very meh to play a dps class |
| 00:26.21 | Mirrormn | arcane mages have to do a lot of mana management, cooldown management, and most especially, positioning management |
| 00:26.38 | cloudwolf | FFFFFFF frostbite is gone! |
| 00:26.41 | cloudwolf | D: |
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| 00:26.46 | cloudwolf | sadpanda |
| 00:26.54 | Mirrormn | every time you take a step as arcane, it's a dps loss |
| 00:26.55 | Warloco | im not sure if I really agree with mana management in the right gear, but cooldown management is probably the main difficulty for arcane |
| 00:27.09 | Jerub | aren't there just 2 cooldowns? |
| 00:27.12 | Jerub | or am i missing some? |
| 00:27.19 | Jerub | well, 3 if you include invis |
| 00:27.23 | Mirrormn | and if you have to move for more than like 4.5s, it's a heavy dps loss |
| 00:27.44 | Warloco | jerub images |
| 00:27.47 | Mirrormn | arcane power, presence of mind, potion of speed, mirror images, evocation |
| 00:28.06 | Warloco | doesnt arcane subspec for icy ceins? |
| 00:28.09 | Warloco | veins* |
| 00:28.14 | Mirrormn | oh yeah, that too |
| 00:28.47 | Jerub | we do? |
| 00:28.51 | Jerub | i don't think i have icy veins |
| 00:28.56 | Mirrormn | I dunno, actually, playing arcane isn't really as much difficult as it is just frustrating |
| 00:28.58 | Jerub | <- scrub mage |
| 00:29.21 | Jerub | Mirrormn: potion of speed? they're that useful? |
| 00:29.25 | Mirrormn | as arcane it seems like every mechanic is working against you |
| 00:29.32 | Warloco | I'm demonology, and I find planning my meta to be be a pain in the ass |
| 00:29.35 | Warloco | though for a large part |
| 00:29.42 | Warloco | because I need to consider if adds will spawn etc |
| 00:29.45 | Warloco | for immolation aura |
| 00:30.04 | Jerub | i was a very succesful kitty back before i specced to bear, so it just seems that maging is yawnfacesleepnow |
| 00:30.13 | Mirrormn | haha |
| 00:30.22 | Mirrormn | I played my brother's feral druid for a raid one time |
| 00:30.39 | Mirrormn | certainly a challenging rotation |
| 00:30.54 | Warloco | I would say I'm very succesful, ive had numerous world of logs rankings and I'm one of the most renowned warlocks on elitistjerks :D |
| 00:31.33 | Mirrormn | ducks under the swinging epeen |
| 00:31.34 | cloudwolf | Renowen doesn't mean its a good thing maybe your the most trolling warlock :D |
| 00:32.15 | Mirrormn | I was ranked high on like Marrowgar 10m normal mode for a while |
| 00:32.22 | Warloco | You cant troll EJ |
| 00:32.37 | Warloco | if you troll EJ you'll get banned in no time |
| 00:32.52 | Mirrormn | most of the time it seems like the only way I could improve my dps is to either go against proper raid mechanics or persuade people to stack buffs on me |
| 00:32.55 | Warloco | hell- if you post constructively but arent very careful you'll still get banned in no time |
| 00:33.14 | Mirrormn | neither of those are things I'm very interested in |
| 00:33.33 | Warloco | the thing I see people can usually improve on the most |
| 00:33.34 | Niv | Warloco: yet Xi manages somehow ;) |
| 00:33.36 | Warloco | is DPS time |
| 00:34.09 | Warloco | @ Niv, I dunno the warlock forums seem pretty bad for this stuff |
| 00:34.26 | Mirrormn | well, once you know your rotation... it's always about dps time |
| 00:34.31 | Warloco | it wouldnt be the first time where I get an infraction for posting a theorycrafting post, just because someone asked a good question |
| 00:34.36 | Niv | (the trolling) |
| 00:42.36 | Warloco | Nether Vortex *New* - Gives your Arcane Blast spell a 50/100% chance to apply the Slow spell to any target it damages if no target is currently affected by Slow. |
| 00:42.41 | Warloco | holy crap that sounds annoying |
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| 00:44.35 | Jerub | Warloco: that's interesting. |
| 00:45.01 | Jerub | Warloco: i'm just looking forward to lifegrip. that's why i want cataclysm to land |
| 00:46.10 | alestane | "I SAID, "Get out of the F*(&ING FIRE!" |
| 00:46.46 | Jerub | alestane: i'm thinking it will be the ultimate tool to make a point about dps dks who DG when they shouldn't |
| 00:46.49 | Jerub | :P |
| 00:47.29 | alestane | "Down! Sit! Stay! Bad DPS!" |
| 00:48.18 | Warloco | I think a lot of annoying stuff will come from life grip |
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| 00:51.20 | [Wobin] | what are the requirements for the ranged tank on Keleseth? |
| 00:52.06 | Motig | I think anything with atleast 30k hp would do fine? |
| 00:52.14 | Motig | just throwing out a number here, I tank it with my Feral Druid |
| 00:52.23 | Motig | and he practically takes nodamage together with the orbs :p |
| 00:52.29 | [Wobin] | Motig: As a clothie =) |
| 00:52.39 | Motig | I'd assume atleast 26k |
| 00:52.41 | Niv | I just double tank the other two, and put a normal tank on him |
| 00:52.42 | Motig | probably less.. |
| 00:52.57 | Motig | there's an achievement for not taking more then 10k damage from any of the spells iirc |
| 00:54.07 | Mirrormn | it's not more than 20k or so actually |
| 00:54.32 | Warloco | Gag Order now Also lowers the cooldown on your Heroic Throw by 15/30 sec. |
| 00:54.33 | Warloco | nice |
| 00:54.38 | Mirrormn | basically you just need to have your tank tank keleseth properly and have all of your big fire orbs get properly siphoned off |
| 00:55.18 | Niv | wait |
| 00:55.23 | Niv | does that make it 30 sec CD, or spamable? :) |
| 00:55.50 | Motig | it has 1 min cooldown |
| 00:56.09 | Motig | so 30 sec |
| 00:59.01 | Kraps | http://jeremiahgrossman.blogspot.com/2010/07/i-know-who-your-name-where-you-work-and.html |
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| 01:07.41 | Kraps | Armor Specializations, wow |
| 01:09.09 | alestane | Armor Specializations? |
| 01:09.38 | Kraps | http://www.mmo-champion.com/ first blue text |
| 01:10.27 | alestane | Are those just supposed to be class passives? |
| 01:10.41 | [Wobin] | http://www.metro.co.uk/weird/835859-worlds-strongest-ale-comes-in-dead-animal-bottles |
| 01:11.07 | alestane | class/spec, I'd have to guess. |
| 01:11.14 | A-KO | alestane: they're passives based on spec, and if you wear the full set |
| 01:11.16 | A-KO | so you don't down-gear |
| 01:11.22 | A-KO | like wear cloth as a resto druid, etc. |
| 01:11.27 | A-KO | or mail as a warrior |
| 01:11.27 | alestane | I noticed the "only", yes/. |
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| 01:15.45 | Kraps | is there any progress on the mage laser ball thing? |
| 01:16.14 | Jerub | A-KO: or cloth,leather or mail on a holy paladin :/ |
| 01:16.39 | Jerub | always upsets me to see a paladin win a roll on mail. |
| 01:16.40 | Dashkal | Deadly Calm - For the next 10 sec seconds, none of your abilities cost rage, but you continue to generate rage. / Instant, 2 min cooldown <--- om nom nom |
| 01:16.59 | Jerub | Dashkal: maybe that will mean something in cata |
| 01:17.00 | Jamash | I thought the way it was going to work was you would get a tiny bonus per item of your normal type |
| 01:17.14 | Jerub | Jamash: why would that help? |
| 01:17.19 | Dashkal | Jamash: that was an earlier design. Looks like they changed their minds. |
| 01:17.23 | Jamash | not what amounts to a penalty for wearing lower types |
| 01:17.43 | Jerub | i thought it was you'd only get your mastery on your own armour type |
| 01:17.53 | Jerub | i wonder how hard this will penalise level 40-45 toons |
| 01:18.13 | Dashkal | a 5% loss won't be noticable in the 40-45 range. |
| 01:18.21 | Jamash | seems kind of dopey though |
| 01:18.34 | Jamash | oops you hit 40 you're wearing all the wrong kind of gear no bonus for joo |
| 01:18.35 | alestane | Hey look, finally a peek at the new 38 franschise: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ52mwNMJYI&feature=youtu.be&a |
| 01:18.36 | harl | yt: Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning - Teaser Trailer |
| 01:19.12 | alestane | That depends...will you get the bonus pre-40 for wearing mail as a warrior? |
| 01:19.24 | Kraps | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26261625900&sid=1 |
| 01:19.26 | Kraps | huh |
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| 01:20.07 | Kraps | blues keep directing posters to this thread but theres no blue here |
| 01:20.16 | Jamash | oh dear god ra salvatore and spawn mcfarlane? |
| 01:21.10 | alestane | Where have you BEEN man? |
| 01:21.15 | Jamash | asleep |
| 01:21.27 | alestane | 38 Studios announced that pairing literally years ago. |
| 01:21.43 | alestane | Okay, maybe only a year and a half. |
| 01:21.45 | Dashkal | Actually, that might offer a solution: Don't give the bonus until level 40. |
| 01:21.48 | Dashkal | For all characters |
| 01:21.49 | [Wobin] | Spawn, the Dark Elf? |
| 01:21.50 | Jamash | Dashkal, yeah |
| 01:22.20 | Jamash | basically the song of the sorcelator is for reals |
| 01:22.24 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/26262766074/upcoming-level-and-zone-changes/ |
| 01:22.31 | Kraps | In the next beta build the minimum level for entering and questing in Mount Hyjal and Vashjâir will change from level 78 to level 80. All associated creature will have their levels increased to match the new flow. |
| 01:22.40 | kd3 | slow |
| 01:22.42 | Dashkal | Granted, clothies and rogues/druids will get a small head start right at 40, but again, 5% of your primary stat is neglegable at that level. |
| 01:22.57 | Jerub | true |
| 01:23.01 | Dashkal | One piece of gear can easily amount to more than 5% |
| 01:23.18 | Jerub | the armour changeover at 40 is just frustrating in general. |
| 01:23.33 | Jerub | it's one of those whacky design things that blizz didn't |
| 01:23.39 | Dashkal | I more or less shrug at it. After 40 I roll on different gear. I don't feel gimped for not having plate right at 40 |
| 01:23.41 | Jerub | keep up to date with modern wow |
| 01:23.48 | Jamash | yeah I dunno why not just plate from level 1 |
| 01:24.03 | Jerub | Dashkal: there's weirdness there. the random dungeon reward starts being exlcusively plate from level 45 |
| 01:24.06 | Jerub | er 35 |
| 01:24.09 | Dashkal | In vanilla I actively liked it. 40 was that huge milestone. |
| 01:24.24 | alestane | You got a mount, you got better armor. |
| 01:24.25 | Dashkal | I didn't notice that... hrm |
| 01:24.32 | alestane | You got a bunch of new spells. |
| 01:24.39 | Jerub | Dashkal: yeah, it's one of those knock-on effects |
| 01:24.40 | Dashkal | I was spending half my time in the dungeon finder on my warrior |
| 01:24.44 | Jamash | it also leads to the weirdness that you don't get chainmail from blacksmithing |
| 01:24.47 | Jamash | after 40 |
| 01:24.51 | Jerub | clearly wasn't thought through very well or designed with that in mind |
| 01:24.52 | alestane | You were definitely a big kid now. |
| 01:24.59 | Jamash | it's all scale mail |
| 01:25.01 | Dashkal | I agree that it's a tad antiquated, but they would have had to fix that way back when starting cata. Prolly far too late now |
| 01:25.23 | Jerub | Dashkal: even just fixing the random dungeon rewards would be fine imho |
| 01:25.37 | Dashkal | Now the first major upgrade feeling I get is at 58. then at 68. then at 80... *notices a pattern* |
| 01:25.54 | Dashkal | If you're getting plate at 35, I'd just call that a bug and file it. |
| 01:26.06 | Dashkal | Uh, random dungeon reward gives unusable loot |
| 01:26.19 | Jamash | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:26.27 | Jerub | the random dungeon loot seems just screwed up universally |
| 01:26.32 | Jerub | it's like an afterthought |
| 01:26.36 | Jamash | no wait |
| 01:26.45 | Jamash | see, you're level 35, so you get ilvl 40 gear |
| 01:26.50 | Dashkal | getting poorly itemized stuff is par for the course with dungeons, but giving items that _nobody_ could use at 35 is odd |
| 01:26.51 | Jerub | the most annoying part is getting 7 sets of plate shoulders. |
| 01:26.54 | Jamash | and plate appears at ilvl 40 |
| 01:27.02 | Jerub | ... when you're in heirlooms |
| 01:27.18 | Dashkal | I'm glad my warrior is an enchanter. I got lots of shards from the dungeon finder |
| 01:27.19 | Jamash | can you DE random dungeon rewards? |
| 01:27.21 | Jamash | ah |
| 01:27.23 | Dashkal | Yes, yes you can :) |
| 01:28.05 | Kraps | can worgen be pallies? |
| 01:28.19 | Dashkal | negative |
| 01:28.36 | Kraps | dagnabit |
| 01:30.04 | alestane | No pallies, no shammies. |
| 01:30.23 | Dashkal | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/cataclysm/_images/features/raceclassmatrix_en_US.jpg |
| 01:30.28 | alestane | Goblins can't be pallies or druids. |
| 01:30.41 | Dashkal | Goblin shaman... still not wraping my head around that one. |
| 01:30.46 | Dashkal | Their totems are cool looking, though |
| 01:31.04 | alestane | That's not accurate at the moment, Dashkal...there are several combos allowed that aren't on that list. |
| 01:31.26 | Dashkal | Fair enough, but worgen palies aren't among them |
| 01:31.43 | alestane | Or at the very least, dwarf and troll warlocks. |
| 01:31.48 | Warloco | a lot of class/races have been changed |
| 01:32.01 | Dashkal | If someone could link an updated chart? |
| 01:32.07 | Warloco | IE: Troll/Dwarf Warlocks are also in cata |
| 01:32.13 | Kraps | Dashkal: some goblins made deals with the element for cash? |
| 01:32.16 | Kraps | :p |
| 01:32.17 | Warloco | I dont think there is an updated version of the chart |
| 01:32.45 | Dashkal | Kraps: Oh, I could come up with a few excuses. I would have loved to be listening in on the design meeting where that was decided is all. |
| 01:32.58 | Jamash | Kraps: More or less |
| 01:33.01 | alestane | Personally, I'm not sure we need dwarf mages or troll warlocks, since they put those races up to "every class but one." |
| 01:33.16 | Jamash | trust me, we need troll warlocks |
| 01:33.24 | Jerub | trollocs? |
| 01:33.27 | DesertDwarf | Tarlocks |
| 01:33.31 | Dashkal | Eh, the playerbase is a very small percentage of the total population. Just open the grid right up. |
| 01:33.35 | Warloco | troll warlocks and dwarf warlocks are both reasonable lore wise Id say |
| 01:33.38 | Jamash | yeah |
| 01:33.58 | alestane | Well, right, but they're adding two classes to a race that really only needed one new one. |
| 01:34.04 | Jamash | Dashkal: http://www.wowwiki.com/Class#Class_roles |
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| 01:34.17 | Jamash | trolls need all classes |
| 01:34.24 | Jamash | did I tell you my idea for troll paladins? |
| 01:34.33 | Jamash | It involves a pot of water and a Naaru. |
| 01:34.42 | alestane | You can't take an existing class away from a race, like troll mages, and troll druids are just awesome. So if I had to ditch one, it would be the warlocks. |
| 01:34.50 | Dashkal | Eh, this isn't the sort of thing that needs to be fair. OMG Humans get one more class than nelfs! |
| 01:35.06 | Jamash | Except there are tons of troll warlocks in the game |
| 01:35.06 | Dashkal | Um, so? |
| 01:35.22 | [Wobin] | Warloco: with the dark iron dwarves, warlockery is entirely possible |
| 01:35.27 | alestane | And they're adding three new classes to dwarves, and I don't think they need both mages and warlocks. |
| 01:35.30 | Dashkal | "Um, so?" <-- in response to my own statement |
| 01:35.37 | [Wobin] | I -still- want my tauren rogue =( |
| 01:35.39 | [Wobin] | damnit |
| 01:35.44 | DesertDwarf | Anybody else notice the little female worgen icon on that wowwiki chart? |
| 01:35.44 | Warloco | @ Wobin, and shadow hunter type stuff |
| 01:35.53 | alestane | Tauren + stealth = WTF? |
| 01:35.53 | Dashkal | tauren rogue would be awesome. Stealthcow! |
| 01:35.59 | Warloco | I mean the trolls already have all this voodoo and "dark shaman" type stuff |
| 01:36.00 | Jamash | it's from the halloween masks |
| 01:36.02 | [Wobin] | alestane: It's what you LEAST EXPECT |
| 01:36.04 | Warloco | that easily ties into warlocks |
| 01:36.04 | [Wobin] | it's AWESOME |
| 01:36.13 | Kraps | the new pally spells sound increasingly christian-related :p |
| 01:36.14 | Jerub | Dashkal: i wanted to roll a tauren rogue |
| 01:36.31 | flexd | cows cant stealth! |
| 01:36.37 | Jamash | a tauren rogue is a tauren warrior who says "I'M BEING SNEAKY CLANK CLANK YOU DIDN'T SEE ME" |
| 01:36.41 | Dashkal | It makes about as much sense to me as an orc rogue. So not seeing the problem :P |
| 01:36.46 | Jamash | and you say yes si I didn't see you sir |
| 01:36.46 | Warloco | anyway, I think im gonna head to bed |
| 01:36.50 | alestane | The paladin milieu has always been founded in Christian liturgical ideas. |
| 01:36.51 | Jamash | s/si/sir/ |
| 01:37.04 | Jamash | M'uru died for your sins |
| 01:37.32 | DesertDwarf | Kraps: Yeah, I see christians all the time casting ... umm ... wait ... ahh, crap. |
| 01:37.37 | alestane | But interestingly enough, WoW pallies tend not to be concerned with dogma or "sin" too much. |
| 01:37.59 | Kraps | alestane: i know but they were more general, now we have "Communion" "Templar's Verdict" etc |
| 01:38.11 | Jamash | when there's real, palpable evil in the world, you don't have a lot of time for fine points of theology |
| 01:38.22 | Corrodias | <Paladin> Praise the Light! <Dude> What's that? <Paladin> Dunno. But i can heal people. |
| 01:38.23 | Dashkal | The holy light doesn't desert you no matter how evil you get. You have to forsake it or believe someone when they tell you they've stripped you it seems. |
| 01:39.49 | Jamash | WoW doesn't have a one-big-dude theology for one thing, the Titans are the closest to creator gods that they get, and they're notably not all that smart |
| 01:40.25 | Jamash | like putting Sargeras in charge of keeping order and then never, ever checking up on him |
| 01:40.49 | alestane | What could have gone wrong? |
| 01:41.12 | alestane | Although I'm not sure the revised lore explains how Sargeras went funky in the first place. |
| 01:41.53 | Kraps | warrior tanks get consecrate, that is all. |
| 01:41.57 | Warloco | that reminds me of the video where colbert and john stewert present the emmys, and colbert takes out his rosins, "after 8 years? what could possibly go wrong!?" |
| 01:42.14 | alestane | Almost consecrate, anyway. |
| 01:43.53 | Corrodias | alestane: didn't the old stuff say he basically went emo? what's the new stuff say? |
| 01:43.55 | Warloco | only warriors get snap aggro and get to move with their adds right? |
| 01:44.16 | Warloco | and paladins get the "if you move through this Ill have picked you up" |
| 01:45.01 | Jamash | so they're buffing cata mobs, eh? probably a good idea, I was mowing through them |
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| 01:45.19 | Warloco | anyway, im seriously going to bed now |
| 01:45.26 | Jamash | as in, killing 4 mobs at once as discipline |
| 01:45.30 | Warloco | good night :p |
| 01:45.39 | Kraps | holy crap Jamash |
| 01:45.54 | Kraps | holy nova spam? |
| 01:45.58 | Jamash | nah |
| 01:46.08 | Jamash | dot tab dot tab smite smite smite |
| 01:46.14 | Jamash | felt kind of warlocky |
| 01:46.40 | Jamash | evangelism is pretty uber |
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| 01:48.04 | Kraps | so if you smite without a 15 second break evangelism stays a 5 stacks? |
| 01:48.20 | Jamash | yup |
| 01:48.44 | Kraps | then archangel for mana |
| 01:48.49 | Kraps | uber |
| 01:49.00 | Jamash | I think there was a bug last version that archangel didn't consume the stack |
| 01:49.06 | Jamash | so you could just keep going |
| 01:49.11 | Kraps | heh |
| 01:49.20 | Jamash | probably somewhat less uber when they fix tat |
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| 01:51.13 | Jamash | food time, bbl |
| 01:52.19 | Kraps | i didnt understand the targeted heroic leap, wasnt that the problem in the wotlk beta? |
| 02:08.00 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAn2UFXSsgw |
| 02:08.01 | harl | yt: Cat Attacks Rabbit - Guess what happens |
| 02:08.51 | Wobin | also |
| 02:08.57 | Mirrormn | that's definitely the best bot function ever invented |
| 02:08.59 | Wobin | I <3 comic nerds: http://www.comicsalliance.com/2010/07/22/super-heroes-vs-the-westboro-baptist-church/?sms_ss=twitter |
| 02:09.46 | Wobin | "Is This Thing On?" |
| 02:11.03 | Wobin | I <3 Gail Simone |
| 02:11.11 | Wobin | she's -awesome- |
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| 02:16.13 | pompy2 | new cata build again? |
| 02:16.21 | Kraps | "satans cake is a lie" |
| 02:16.27 | cog|away | ~seen Shirik |
| 02:16.30 | purl | shirik is currently on #norganna #wowuidev #wowace, last said: 'cogwheel: Agree, but just saying'. |
| 02:16.30 | kd3 | ya. this is actual content. last one was just the roll-up patch |
| 02:16.45 | cogwheel | ya but wen? |
| 02:17.24 | cogwheel | greps some logs |
| 02:18.15 | Kraps | Wobin: what exactly is the WBC protesting at comic-con? |
| 02:18.25 | Wobin | um |
| 02:18.28 | Wobin | god hates |
| 02:18.29 | Wobin | um |
| 02:18.33 | Kraps | stuff |
| 02:18.33 | Wobin | flags? |
| 02:18.37 | Kraps | and thing |
| 02:18.39 | Kraps | s |
| 02:18.50 | Corrodias | god hates imagination |
| 02:19.15 | Corrodias | wait, that could be self defeating. i'm not sure what it is. maybe it -is- flags. |
| 02:19.23 | DesertDwarf | Is there a curseforge admin-ish person on/awake/available? |
| 02:19.40 | Kraps | lol a jesus cosplayer |
| 02:20.11 | cogwheel | Ackis: |
| 02:22.58 | cogwheel | Kraps: they're protesting people like this (NSFW) http://www.geekologie.com/2009/12/cannot_be_unseen_bodypainted_t.php |
| 02:23.36 | Kraps | wow lol |
| 02:23.36 | Torhal | DesertDwarf: ? |
| 02:23.57 | Motig | awesome |
| 02:24.41 | DesertDwarf | I'm creating an LDB addon for JunkDrop. Data Broker is a Secondary Category option but it looks like it belong to "Map & Minimap". Mine is a data broker but has nothing to do with maps. Should I select it anyway? |
| 02:24.51 | cogwheel | ~ping Ackis |
| 02:26.01 | Torhal | DesertDwarf: I don't see why you would need to... |
| 02:26.09 | Torhal | Oh, you're talking about icon alignment |
| 02:26.14 | DesertDwarf | Yup. |
| 02:26.16 | Torhal | It's not under Map & Minimap |
| 02:26.20 | Torhal | It's just bad CSS methinks. |
| 02:26.32 | Mirrormn | the categories go horizontally |
| 02:26.36 | Mirrormn | not vertically |
| 02:26.46 | DesertDwarf | Torhal: Ahh, ok. |
| 02:26.54 | DesertDwarf | Mirror: Ugh. That's terrible. |
| 02:27.23 | DesertDwarf | Mirror: But that does make sense because that would make Data Broker a child of Plugins. |
| 02:28.39 | Torhal | Aye |
| 02:29.33 | Motig | there's some new changes on mmo-c about armor specialization |
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| 02:59.13 | Yssaril | is it worth it to download the SC2 client if i am getting a hardcopy from amazon? |
| 02:59.32 | Jamash | I don't think it'll even work with a physical copy key, so no |
| 02:59.55 | Yssaril | ohh well |
| 03:00.28 | Cide | key point being Jamash doesn't know, he believes |
| 03:00.37 | Yssaril | hehe |
| 03:00.41 | Jamash | yes, I do not have official confirmation of that |
| 03:01.52 | Jamash | games older than wow are now "legacy", huh |
| 03:02.00 | Jamash | I was kind of hoping that they'd integrate old bnet and new bnet |
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| 03:05.56 | Jamash | http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=25969522553&postId=262247222496&sid=3000#6 |
| 03:05.58 | Jamash | answers! |
| 03:07.59 | Yssaril | so Bnet is blizzards steam where we have to log into all their games to play? |
| 03:08.21 | Jamash | yes |
| 03:08.29 | bleeter | Blizz have finally seen the light and will let Aussies play on US SC2 servers... yay! |
| 03:08.33 | Jamash | really? |
| 03:08.53 | bleeter | comes from StarCraft's South East Asia reps |
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| 03:08.54 | bleeter | http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=140764872609672 |
| 03:09.05 | Jamash | have I mentioned that blizzard really, really, really ought to have a regular weblog type site? |
| 03:09.17 | Cide | so it does work |
| 03:09.43 | Jamash | in order to keep up with news you have to follow blizzard.com, battle.net, individual game sites, individual game forums (in multiple regions), twitter, facebook |
| 03:10.15 | Cide | so make one |
| 03:10.24 | Cide | doesn't have to be first party |
| 03:10.25 | Jamash | and formerly blizzcast except they stopped doing that |
| 03:10.49 | kd3 | beta realms are up |
| 03:10.49 | Jerub | isn't that called mmo-c? |
| 03:10.54 | Cide | nope |
| 03:10.58 | Cide | that's wow only |
| 03:11.10 | Jamash | my point is exactly that, you have to go to a fansite in order to get news you should be able to get from blizzard directly |
| 03:11.12 | Cide | with some exceptions for special occasions like the ghost of the past trailer |
| 03:11.26 | Jamash | making a new fansite does nothing to alleviate this problem |
| 03:11.31 | Cide | sure it does |
| 03:11.53 | Cide | I don't think blizzard believes very many people are interested in all their products for one |
| 03:12.00 | Jamash | ... |
| 03:12.12 | Ressy | guild tab's back |
| 03:12.14 | Cide | so for the vast majority of people it wouldn't make sense to see wow+d3+sc2+legacy games news |
| 03:12.32 | Ressy | lawl. the bar on the guild tab's broken. |
| 03:15.23 | Ressy | Guild Perks were reset. |
| 03:15.40 | kd3 | oh gack. the seahorse has that horrid animation. yuck |
| 03:15.49 | |Jelly| | Bnet still isn't fixed. :( |
| 03:16.01 | Jamash | if blizzard didn't believe people were interested in multiple products there wouldn't be a HUGE ASS STARCRAFT II AD all over the wow launcher and site |
| 03:21.10 | Ressy | Archaeology still isn't in. |
| 03:28.04 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/tumblr_l5aycji2si1qcy972o1_500.jpg |
| 03:28.40 | Jamash | I don't quite get the guild leveling ui |
| 03:29.14 | Jerub | best wikipedia article ever: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_misconceptions |
| 03:29.31 | cogwheel | mikma: signature fail imo |
| 03:29.36 | cloudwolf | incase any one cares mmo-champion has an update with the armor specializations |
| 03:30.12 | Ressy | Jamash: What exactly don't you get? |
| 03:30.44 | Jamash | hover your mouse over the bar at the top |
| 03:31.09 | Jamash | -7564532 xp remaining today? |
| 03:32.51 | Ressy | -44506670. *shrug* |
| 03:33.51 | Jamash | mmm, guild profession viewing |
| 03:34.39 | Ressy | Guild Perks are reset until 10 people log into the guild. Then you auto-learn what you should have. |
| 03:34.58 | Jamash | huh |
| 03:35.14 | Ressy | Well they didn't reset the XP gained by the guild members. |
| 03:35.36 | Ressy | So, when you get 10 people to log in, if you have enough XP for Levels 1 & 2, you laern those levels' perks |
| 03:35.45 | cogwheel | yay unicode http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/3122/formatting-sandbox/54747#54747 |
| 03:36.00 | Jamash | oh god my face |
| 03:36.33 | Jamash | man having no face was better than this |
| 03:37.58 | mikma | unable to validate game version |
| 03:38.01 | mikma | whoopdidooooo |
| 03:38.14 | cloudwolf | unable to get key to validate :D |
| 03:38.18 | cloudwolf | ill try tomorrow maybe |
| 03:38.48 | Jamash | mikma: you have to do the realmlist.wtf fix again |
| 03:39.33 | mikma | apparently patch changed it back |
| 03:41.23 | Cide | epic sc2 game |
| 03:41.50 | Cide | tons of drops, nukes, motherships, battlecruisers |
| 03:42.11 | mikma | so, guild ui not yet available? |
| 03:42.30 | mikma | oh, social |
| 03:43.31 | Jamash | I think O brings up social, ctrl-G brings up guild |
| 03:44.11 | Jamash | the ancient protectors in lor'danel are amusing, they don't animate so they're in a permanent "rawr" pose |
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| 03:54.11 | Jamash | aw man they killed off Gwyneth Paltrow's npc |
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| 04:05.49 | Jamash | note to self: do not fall into bottomless pit |
| 04:06.24 | Xyphoid | watch out for wumpus |
| 04:06.59 | Jamash | there's a Vortex in darkshore, which doesn't actually have water in it |
| 04:07.16 | Jamash | so you can't swim out, and if you fall in, you have to spirit res |
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| 04:08.06 | Jamash | on the plus side my face is back |
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| 04:10.02 | kd3 | weird. x crashed out of the blue |
| 04:15.57 | Ressy | You on dx11? |
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| 04:17.52 | Motig | probably meant his irc client |
| 04:18.29 | Ressy | ah |
| 04:19.30 | Arrowmaster | no he probably ment Xorg |
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| 04:24.34 | cbreak | holy crap |
| 04:24.42 | Ressy | ? |
| 04:24.43 | cbreak | blizzard removed frostbite |
| 04:27.02 | Jerub | which one's frostbite? |
| 04:27.50 | ckknight | http://i31.tinypic.com/103x1ex.jpg |
| 04:27.52 | cbreak | the core frost talent that makes enemies freeze in place |
| 04:28.06 | Cide | Deadly Calm *New* - For the next 10 sec seconds, none of your abilities cost rage, but you continue to generate rage. / Instant, 2 min cooldown |
| 04:28.09 | Cide | ow |
| 04:28.43 | Jerub | Cide: that'll be coinciding with rage actually meaning something |
| 04:28.56 | Cide | naturally |
| 04:28.58 | Cide | still, ow |
| 04:29.21 | Jerub | Cide: it's basically equivilent of what enrage is used for now |
| 04:29.40 | Jerub | which is, "oh shit no rage stupid blizzard no buttons work whack this button receive enough bacon to actually get threat" |
| 04:29.54 | Cide | to get threat? |
| 04:29.57 | Cide | who's talking about tanking |
| 04:30.04 | Jerub | Cide: oh, whatever, to do dps. |
| 04:30.12 | Cide | pvp |
| 04:30.26 | Jerub | oh right, pvp, srry. i'm on a pve server and don't pvp |
| 04:31.12 | Jerub | Cide: i totally forgot there's more to rage than warrior tank or warrior dps |
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| 04:51.15 | [Wobin] | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1pchpDD5EU&feature=player_embedded |
| 04:51.16 | harl | yt: The Chipophone |
| 04:54.09 | kd3 | wow. gandling's actually tagged as a boss in the open world now |
| 04:54.36 | kd3 | all of 27k health, though |
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| 04:55.35 | Jamash | <Lewd on Demand> now has a gbank, yay |
| 04:58.10 | [Wobin] | http://d.hatena.ne.jp/shiinaneko/20100715/1279252548 |
| 04:58.12 | [Wobin] | iDish |
| 05:05.02 | sylvanaar | whats new guys |
| 05:07.14 | kd3 | trainers are broken. guild ui's in |
| 05:07.18 | sylvanaar | mmm, my cata install says unable to validate game version |
| 05:07.40 | kd3 | redo the realmist.wtf switch |
| 05:07.46 | Jerub | LK will be killable when cata is out, right? |
| 05:07.53 | Jerub | i'm going to be able to pug a group and get kingslayer, i hope |
| 05:09.14 | sylvanaar | kd3: i dunno what that is |
| 05:09.36 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26262866282&sid=2000 |
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| 05:10.57 | Mirrormn | Jamash: I put 20,000g in there earlier |
| 05:11.02 | Jamash | woot |
| 05:11.03 | sylvanaar | thanks kd3 |
| 05:11.08 | kd3 | np |
| 05:11.14 | Jamash | thanks, I bought 6 tabs with it |
| 05:11.22 | Mirrormn | cause gold is so valuable on beta |
| 05:11.55 | Jamash | yeah |
| 05:12.14 | Mirrormn | god if my guild doesn't kill HLK tonight |
| 05:12.22 | Mirrormn | I'm going to literally explode in all directions |
| 05:12.31 | Mirrormn | *literally* |
| 05:13.18 | [Wobin] | literally eh? |
| 05:13.21 | [Wobin] | that'll be something to see |
| 05:13.38 | DesertDwarf | If I'm referencing a library in my .toc file, do I need to give the path or can I just give the filename. For example: libs\LibStub\LibStub.lua or LibStub\LibStub.lua or LibStub.lua? |
| 05:13.48 | Fisker | [Wobin] |
| 05:13.50 | Jamash | you need to give the whole path |
| 05:13.50 | Fisker | i don't feel so well |
| 05:14.04 | [Wobin] | Fisker: =\ |
| 05:14.18 | Jamash | dude vendors on beta no longer give away stuff for free??? |
| 05:14.36 | DesertDwarf | Jamash: I guess gold is valuable again? |
| 05:14.42 | Mirrormn | damnit |
| 05:14.48 | Mirrormn | I want my 20,000g back! |
| 05:14.53 | Jamash | I liked having free mammoths |
| 05:15.28 | Jamash | you can have 10,000 of it >.> |
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| 05:17.47 | Fisker | why are blizzard jerks kd3 ? |
| 05:17.54 | Fisker | guild ui's not in here |
| 05:18.13 | Fisker | unless they moved it |
| 05:18.27 | Fisker | they did |
| 05:18.28 | Fisker | cunts |
| 05:18.29 | Fisker | :3 |
| 05:18.48 | Fisker | doesn't seem to work properly |
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| 05:19.09 | Fisker | s/properly/at all/ |
| 05:19.27 | Jamash | I found it buggy but usable |
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| 05:21.41 | kd3 | it's not in social. new button on the menu |
| 05:22.09 | Torhal | Fisker: I really hate to ask this of you, but please: Watch your fucking language. |
| 05:22.12 | Torhal | That is all. |
| 05:22.15 | Fisker | no Torhal |
| 05:22.19 | Torhal | Damn you! |
| 05:22.36 | Fisker | where on the menu kd3 ? |
| 05:23.04 | Fisker | oh it's just replaced social |
| 05:23.07 | kd3 | where the social button was. the white exclamation point |
| 05:23.25 | Fisker | still doesn't work here :( |
| 05:23.57 | Fisker | firelord is still bugged as well |
| 05:24.13 | Torhal | sends Fisker to the Barber Shop to get press-on nails. |
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| 05:24.16 | kd3 | so is defending the rift |
| 05:24.32 | Kyrain | Hi |
| 05:24.56 | Kyrain | Are there any mods/admins of wowinterface.com here? |
| 05:25.20 | kd3 | there are several. what's up? |
| 05:25.33 | Fisker | it's a slap in the face is what it is kd3 |
| 05:25.39 | NightHawkTheSane | So, getting "unable to validate game version" in beta, was there some config file i had to modify? |
| 05:25.45 | NightHawkTheSane | thinks there was, but forgets |
| 05:25.54 | kd3 | nhts; http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26262866282&sid=2000 |
| 05:25.59 | NightHawkTheSane | danke |
| 05:27.03 | NightHawkTheSane | sweet, just flushing my dns worked |
| 05:27.10 | Kyrain | Hi, I just checked my AddOn's page and it tells me to contact an admin http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8008-KaratinaBar.html |
| 05:27.17 | NightHawkTheSane | wait no, i'm just drunk and logged into live that time instead of beta |
| 05:27.19 | NightHawkTheSane | sighs |
| 05:27.48 | Fisker | so they never bothered fixing the 500 players bug>:3 |
| 05:27.50 | kd3 | dolby, Shadowed, Shirik ^ |
| 05:29.13 | Torhal | Where is my fried rice, Fisker? |
| 05:29.44 | Cairenn|afk | Kyrain: that would be because your name (at least in here) doesn't match the author name on the site, and it hasn't been updated since 2007 - a 3 year delay is a long time ..... |
| 05:30.08 | Kyrain | oh, ok |
| 05:30.14 | NightHawkTheSane | also, is there a horde authors guild in beta yet? |
| 05:30.21 | Fisker | so kd3 |
| 05:30.25 | Torhal | NightHawkTheSane: US, EU? |
| 05:30.28 | NightHawkTheSane | us |
| 05:30.29 | Fisker | why do they not want to fix the 500 players bug? |
| 05:30.30 | Cairenn|afk | Kyrain: if you care to PM me, to explain? |
| 05:30.32 | Torhal | Lewd on Demand |
| 05:30.55 | NightHawkTheSane | anyone online in there now thats also in here? |
| 05:31.06 | Torhal | Jamash, Mirrormn: ^ |
| 05:31.17 | Jamash | do what now |
| 05:31.25 | Torhal | Jamash: nhts wants in the guild. |
| 05:31.29 | Cyprias | Lewd On Demand is on the PvE server right? |
| 05:31.32 | Jamash | I am guildmaster of US PvE Lewd on Demand, yah, what's your char name? |
| 05:31.32 | Torhal | Aye |
| 05:31.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Jamash: kybelis |
| 05:31.48 | Cyprias | any US PvP horde guilds? |
| 05:39.00 | frontendloader | my friends guild is lets go sunnin |
| 05:39.19 | Mirrormn | woooo HLK dead! |
| 05:39.20 | Mirrormn | BAM |
| 05:39.35 | frontendloader | on horde pvp |
| 05:39.38 | NightHawkTheSane | can't train spells :( |
| 05:39.48 | frontendloader | I don't think there is an interface guild on the PvP server unfortunately |
| 05:39.53 | frontendloader | everyone in here is BABIES |
| 05:40.01 | kd3 | we like testing without getting corpse-camped |
| 05:40.15 | Fisker | slaps kd3 around a bit with a large trout |
| 05:40.34 | frontendloader | yeah but how do you test if your mods can survive world PvP |
| 05:41.04 | DesertDwarf | I'm using another addon as a guide and see |cffeda55f in output strings (to chat and to tooltip). What does this do? Color? |
| 05:41.12 | frontendloader | yes, color |
| 05:41.21 | DesertDwarf | What would |r do? |
| 05:41.27 | [Wobin] | reset the colour |
| 05:41.29 | frontendloader | reset |
| 05:41.32 | DesertDwarf | Ahh! |
| 05:41.36 | DesertDwarf | Thanks a bunch! :-) |
| 05:42.07 | DesertDwarf | Incidentally, how do I convert from RGS (255-based or 1.0 based) to that color string? |
| 05:44.02 | [Wobin] | it's a hex value |
| 05:44.20 | Torhal | DesertDwarf: http://paste.wowace.com/2252/ |
| 05:44.49 | Fisker | hey [Wobin] |
| 05:45.17 | DesertDwarf | But there's 2 too many digits. Hex RGS should only be 6 and the code I'm seeing is 9. |
| 05:45.23 | DesertDwarf | *3 too many |
| 05:45.36 | frontendloader | darkness |
| 05:45.44 | frontendloader | or lightness |
| 05:45.48 | DesertDwarf | alpha? |
| 05:45.49 | frontendloader | is the last tuplet |
| 05:45.53 | frontendloader | not alpha |
| 05:46.07 | frontendloader | at least I think it isn't, in the case of a font? |
| 05:47.08 | Torhal | DesertDwarf: |c is "color begin", ff is "alpha", then it's rr, gg, bb |
| 05:47.13 | frontendloader | 5f would be pretty transparent |
| 05:47.21 | DesertDwarf | Ahh! Thanks. |
| 05:47.26 | frontendloader | or reasonably light |
| 05:47.28 | DesertDwarf | Is there a page for that? |
| 05:47.52 | Torhal | DesertDwarf: http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_escape_sequences |
| 05:48.11 | DesertDwarf | Cool. |
| 05:48.17 | frontendloader | oh, I thought alpha was the last value, my mistake |
| 05:48.38 | DesertDwarf | I'd just found this: http://www.wowwiki.com/ItemLink -- But I like the Torhal link better. |
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| 05:58.43 | Fisker | zomg futurama Torhal |
| 05:59.27 | Torhal | Leonard Nimoy would be proud, Fisker |
| 06:01.31 | Mirrormn | man, 6 hours raid |
| 06:01.34 | Mirrormn | collapses |
| 06:02.46 | DesertDwarf | And an addon update. Good at ya! |
| 06:03.53 | Mirrormn | well I didn't update that much |
| 06:04.08 | Mirrormn | but it worked solidly throughout the fight so wheee |
| 06:05.58 | Fisker | i see they added paid characters slots in the new build kd3 |
| 06:07.52 | zenzelezz | http://verydemotivational.com/2010/07/22/demotivational-posters-humans-2/ |
| 06:08.51 | AbsolutRayne | You know |
| 06:08.52 | Fisker | no zenzelezz |
| 06:08.56 | AbsolutRayne | I really love my guild. |
| 06:09.01 | Fisker | no AbsolutRayne |
| 06:09.02 | AbsolutRayne | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/SinOfDreams/WoWScrnShot_072210_230652.jpg moments like this just make it amazing. |
| 06:09.09 | AbsolutRayne | Fisker: I swear, ima slap you! |
| 06:09.19 | Fisker | you can try |
| 06:09.22 | tem | I am a happy nerd: http://i.imgur.com/ICqSY.jpg |
| 06:09.31 | Torhal | No, AbsolutRayne - boot to the head would be preferable. |
| 06:09.52 | AbsolutRayne | Torhal: Point taken |
| 06:09.58 | AbsolutRayne | Good thing I got a size 15... |
| 06:13.57 | Jerub | oh, annoying thing of the week. |
| 06:14.05 | Jerub | being 1 EoF from new T10 legs :/ |
| 06:14.08 | Jerub | then going to bed |
| 06:14.45 | AbsolutRayne | Jerub: Id give you mine if I could. |
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| 06:15.09 | Jerub | we did fester/rot then decided to give DW a go |
| 06:15.19 | Jerub | turns out the healers had only ever dps'd it, and the tanks had only ever healed it. |
| 06:16.04 | Jerub | so after fester/rot i was on 93, after miniboss i was on 94, then we called it after we realised it wasn't going to happen with DW |
| 06:16.40 | Jerub | (in other news, i'm still 6/12 icc norm:/) |
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| 06:21.55 | AbsolutRayne | Jerub: :/ |
| 06:21.59 | AbsolutRayne | You on a low pop server? |
| 06:23.25 | Jerub | AbsolutRayne: not really. |
| 06:23.31 | Jerub | but i'm not in a progression raiding guild. |
| 06:23.34 | AbsolutRayne | Ah |
| 06:23.48 | Jerub | so i'm pugging up groups that are routinely doing 6/12 |
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| 06:23.55 | Jerub | but PP requires raid awareness |
| 06:30.14 | Grum | you should be able to do 9/12 (no sindra, pp, lk) |
| 06:30.39 | Grum | assuming the people you raid with actually listen and do as told ;) |
| 06:31.47 | Grum | tem: gz :D |
| 06:33.21 | Jerub | Grum: i assume you also mean no BQ or something? |
| 06:33.52 | Mirrormn | BQ is pretty easy with 30% buff |
| 06:34.01 | Grum | BQ is actually amazingly easy, assuming people listen, and you can get a mod to assign 'who bites what' |
| 06:34.09 | Grum | so then it gets down at 'doing what been told' |
| 06:34.23 | Jerub | oh, wait, maths is hard |
| 06:34.26 | Jerub | lets go shopping! |
| 06:34.29 | Grum | hehehe |
| 06:34.43 | Jerub | I don't know BQ fight |
| 06:34.52 | Jerub | i very very very nearly pugged into the dream raid. |
| 06:35.03 | Jerub | it was at 10/12 going for LK, with half of the members already kingslayers |
| 06:35.43 | Grum | any reason you are not just in a guild doing this stuff or simply dont want to put in that amount of dedication? |
| 06:36.00 | Fisker | bite what Grum ? |
| 06:36.03 | Fisker | You don't need bites |
| 06:36.08 | Jerub | Grum: i have a guild that's falling apart. |
| 06:36.29 | Grum | you do need bites Fisker, else people get mcd :p |
| 06:36.32 | Grum | Jerub: :( |
| 06:36.58 | Fisker | not an issue Grum |
| 06:37.01 | Grum | but yeah with this buff we normally kill it with 4 or maybe 8 vampires |
| 06:37.02 | Jerub | well, by falling apart, i mean it was just large enough to field a 10man once a week, and then our shamman broke up with the paladin and started dating the warlock, then the shammy and warlock faction transferred, and our warrior quit wow |
| 06:37.13 | Grum | LOL Jerub |
| 06:37.16 | Jerub | then the hunter and the dk went back to school |
| 06:37.21 | Grum | lolololol |
| 06:37.26 | Jerub | and their parents made them quit wow for the year |
| 06:37.42 | Grum | maybe you should guild up with slightly more mature people haha :) |
| 06:37.50 | Grum | that must have been some mega-epic drama |
| 06:37.54 | Jerub | Grum: the shamman was /smoking hot/ |
| 06:38.05 | Jerub | and liked wearing little tartan skirts. |
| 06:38.23 | Jerub | fortunately, we still have our druid+priest, but their kids (3 of them) joined a raiding guild. |
| 06:38.37 | zenzelezz | how come people (websites) keep using full URLs as the link text when linking to Digg? Does Digg have some sort of policy on that? |
| 06:39.07 | Grum | Jerub: the fact you know she was means she probably shoved it in everyones face |
| 06:39.14 | Fisker | hey Grum |
| 06:39.15 | Fisker | you are Grum |
| 06:39.16 | Grum | that is one major red flag to start looking for a replacement *or* another guild :p |
| 06:39.27 | Grum | girly-girls cause drama |
| 06:39.55 | Jerub | Grum: no, i've met her |
| 06:39.59 | Jerub | we mostly live in the same city. |
| 06:40.26 | Grum | haha so you must feel pissed she didnt run off with you but with the warlock? ;D |
| 06:40.33 | Jerub | no, i'm married. |
| 06:40.41 | Grum | :D |
| 06:40.50 | Grum | well saved ;) |
| 06:40.55 | Fisker | http://consumerist.com/2010/07/22/mover.jpg <-fuck, i don't have rechargable batteries |
| 06:41.00 | Jerub | i'm always surprised how many girls play wow when i get on vent. |
| 06:41.55 | Grum | i'm always surprised how many cause drama :) |
| 06:42.11 | Grum | fun fact, the 'normal girls' actually hate the drama-kind :) |
| 06:42.34 | Jerub | Grum: maybe i'm too old and measured, but i've never seen this drama of which you speak. |
| 06:42.43 | Jerub | however, ninjalooters cause lots of daram |
| 06:42.47 | Jerub | *drama |
| 06:42.48 | Kalroth | pon de fisker |
| 06:43.37 | Grum | Jerub: i'v had my share of drama in guilds, flirty girls which would talk up guys and the guys would 'fight over her' ... eventhough she obviously had a bf (or according to her a gf and a bf) |
| 06:43.43 | Fisker | Kalroth |
| 06:43.46 | Grum | mostly just sad stuff :) |
| 06:43.51 | Fisker | i do not have rechargable batteries |
| 06:43.56 | Jerub | Grum: hehehehe sounds like you need a more mature guild |
| 06:43.57 | Fisker | i am inferior to a controller :( |
| 06:44.05 | Grum | Jerub: yeah i moved on ;) |
| 06:44.10 | Grum | that was 2 guilds ago :) |
| 06:44.14 | Fisker | what if i ate some rechargable batteries, would that count? |
| 06:44.15 | Grum | (and 2.5 years) |
| 06:44.29 | Grum | Fisker: no, only when you insert them in your anus |
| 06:44.40 | Grum | make sure you use the biggest ones and twice as many as recommended |
| 06:44.51 | Fisker | :3 |
| 06:45.10 | Fisker | we also have wires apparently |
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| 06:45.29 | Jerub | man, i wish it was possible to use all these modern controllers for wow. |
| 06:45.34 | Grum | haha |
| 06:45.35 | Fisker | Wobin |
| 06:45.35 | Grum | no you dont |
| 06:45.37 | Fisker | we're fucked |
| 06:45.44 | Jerub | tbh, that's the thing i hate about wow the most, the control interface |
| 06:45.54 | Fisker | http://consumerist.com/2010/07/22/mover.jpg <-we don't have rechargable batteries, but we do have wires |
| 06:46.14 | Grum | Jerub: the reason microsoft never allowed crossplayform play for their xbox live system is that the best console players got completely owned by the mediocre pc players |
| 06:46.19 | Grum | its all about the controllers in that respect |
| 06:46.51 | Grum | Fisker: i really love the 'build in rechargable batteries' .... |
| 06:47.06 | Grum | they make it appear as if the other ones have batteries you cannot recharge ... |
| 06:47.12 | Grum | where in fact ... they have no fucking batteries at all |
| 06:47.39 | Grum | and the 'camera', 'augmented reality' .. yes .. if you have one . you automagically have the other o.O |
| 06:47.46 | Grum | same goes for image capturing |
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| 06:47.52 | Grum | and headtracking |
| 06:48.05 | Jerub | does anyone have a good way of timing clicks for the gcd? |
| 06:48.11 | NightHawkTheSane | ... did that npc just say "Thrall's Balls"? |
| 06:48.16 | Jerub | i'm sure i'm wasting a lot of time |
| 06:48.30 | Grum | Jerub: what class are you? druid healer? |
| 06:48.33 | Jerub | Grum: yes |
| 06:48.48 | Grum | most people use quartz's gcd pulsebar thingie |
| 06:48.55 | Fisker | i'm sick though Grum |
| 06:48.56 | Grum | or the ones in pitbul frames ors |
| 06:48.59 | Jerub | i've got that, but it's only like 3pixels high |
| 06:49.06 | Grum | Jerub: you can make it higher |
| 06:49.15 | Jerub | hm, i might try that |
| 06:49.21 | Jerub | i was thinking maybe something audible. |
| 06:49.31 | Grum | yeah i sortof just thought of that too |
| 06:49.42 | Grum | what about a 'soft sound' which would sortof 'tick' at the end of a gcd |
| 06:49.48 | Jerub | yeah, that's promising |
| 06:49.55 | Grum | you could probably quite trivially edit that into quartz |
| 06:49.59 | Jerub | i need to figure out how to silence all the other stupid sounds though |
| 06:50.04 | Grum | find where it 'ends' the gcd pulse and play a sound |
| 06:50.11 | Grum | ctrl-s? :) |
| 06:50.26 | Jerub | is that the combo key i keep hitting? |
| 06:50.39 | Grum | hehe ctrl-s is default 'sound toggle' |
| 06:50.47 | Jerub | sounds like it |
| 06:50.53 | Jerub | remmebers that |
| 06:50.58 | Grum | some addon-played sounds *DO* still play however |
| 06:51.01 | Grum | so you could use that perhaps |
| 06:51.02 | Jerub | i'm tired and facerolling and my sound turns off |
| 06:51.07 | Grum | ;)) |
| 06:51.16 | Grum | just move it to ctrl-alt-shift-fisker |
| 06:51.34 | Jerub | any mac users? control-alt-option-8 |
| 06:51.57 | NightHawkTheSane | Jerub: you mean cmd-ctrl-opt-8 |
| 06:52.02 | NightHawkTheSane | (alt and opt are the same key) |
| 06:52.14 | Jerub | NightHawkTheSane: that's the one. |
| 06:52.25 | Jerub | NightHawkTheSane: sorry, i said 'option' when i meant 'apple' which really means 'cmd' |
| 06:52.29 | NightHawkTheSane | and yeah, that fun. ubuntu (or, compiz, i guess) has a module for that too |
| 06:52.33 | NightHawkTheSane | *nod* |
| 06:59.44 | cbreak_work | cmd-ctrl-opt-8 is already taken |
| 06:59.54 | cbreak_work | by the high-contrast-mode |
| 07:00.05 | Jerub | ... that's what i was referring to |
| 07:00.47 | Jerub | runs off to drinks night |
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| 07:15.31 | cbreak_work | I like "security now". |
| 07:16.32 | Jamash | taming spreeeeeee |
| 07:16.43 | abra | whatsup folks |
| 07:17.07 | Jamash | I"m taming stuff |
| 07:17.24 | Jamash | or at least I was until the world server went down |
| 07:17.26 | abra | lol, sounds about right |
| 07:17.39 | abra | find anything good to stable? |
| 07:18.25 | abra | how about some good old fashioned noob bashing to get this room popping? |
| 07:18.26 | abra | http://paste.wowace.com/2253/ |
| 07:18.27 | Jamash | right now I'm just indiscriminately taming stuff |
| 07:19.21 | abra | ive never hunted. im a support role kind of guy. |
| 07:19.46 | abra | i have a lock but meh.. i like to be able to heal. |
| 07:19.46 | Jamash | wouldn't it make sense to add to a total value whenever a heal is cast? |
| 07:19.57 | Jamash | instead of summing the entire history each time? |
| 07:20.28 | abra | i suppose. but thats beside the point right? if im going to have to write that kind of code for every bit of data i want, i might go crazy. |
| 07:20.37 | Jamash | what's the purpose of the addon? |
| 07:20.38 | abra | i was hoping for some ideas for a multifunction |
| 07:20.46 | abra | just think of it as a dmg meter |
| 07:21.08 | abra | this is for non dynamic searching, after the fact. |
| 07:21.38 | abra | no real time rather. |
| 07:22.13 | abra | im actually incrementing total healing and dmg on the input functions. |
| 07:22.27 | abra | but this was just a test to access the data |
| 07:22.35 | abra | lots of code for a simple request |
| 07:23.53 | abra | orion woulda been able to help. he's got some skills. |
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| 07:25.40 | abra | no more comments jam? |
| 07:25.46 | eidolarr | why is it convention to have API functions with colon notation, eg Library:Function instead of Library.Function ? |
| 07:25.59 | Jamash | first point: you appear to be using integer-indexed tables for things that ought to be string-indexed |
| 07:26.10 | Grum | eidolarr: its not but ':' imposes some magic |
| 07:26.33 | Jamash | eidolarr: table:method(args) is equivalent to table.method(table, args) |
| 07:26.33 | eidolarr | it seems like the only time the former is useful is when you are instantiating things, while . lets you use the functions as variables easily |
| 07:26.40 | Grum | if you call Library:Function under the hood Libary gets given as the first argument |
| 07:26.45 | eidolarr | yeah I know what it means, I'm asking why |
| 07:26.54 | Grum | well its a 'fake' oo :) |
| 07:27.00 | eidolarr | like if you're writing a library and you have Library:Function, you obviously know wha tthe 'self' is going to be |
| 07:27.18 | Grum | yes but you wont have 'self' unless you use : |
| 07:27.29 | Arrowmaster | for libraries you might be depending on self to be unique for each thing using the library |
| 07:27.53 | eidolarr | Grum: my point is that you don't need it if you know 'self' will always be, say, AceDB |
| 07:28.01 | Arrowmaster | but you dont know that |
| 07:28.23 | eidolarr | Arrowmaster: yeah, it seems like : is almost inappropriate for "static" methods |
| 07:28.46 | Grum | eidolarr: if you want to access 'self' then yeah you better store it somewhere reachable or give it along in the function call |
| 07:28.58 | Grum | the foo:bar does the giving along and storing for you |
| 07:29.02 | Arrowmaster | AceDB specifically makes use of self being unique amoung different uses of the library |
| 07:29.10 | eidolarr | Arrowmaster: for mixins I can see the value, but what if you're not embedding your library anywhere? |
| 07:29.19 | eidolarr | er i'm sorry that was ambiguous vocabulary |
| 07:29.33 | eidolarr | what if you're not fake-instantiating your library? |
| 07:29.42 | eidolarr | bleh this is hard to word, do you know what i mean? |
| 07:29.47 | Arrowmaster | kinda |
| 07:30.12 | eidolarr | like, to my understanding AceDB kind of takes a table and makes it also function as an AceDB 'instance' |
| 07:30.19 | Grum | eidolarr: yeah there are cases where the whole ':' is not service more purpose than '.' but usually you want instances, even if you have a singleton |
| 07:30.36 | eidolarr | how come? |
| 07:30.48 | Grum | because you want to store state in a non global? |
| 07:30.52 | eidolarr | on the singleton part |
| 07:31.02 | eidolarr | yeah but if you know there is only one instance, you don't need it specified as a parameter |
| 07:31.25 | Arrowmaster | but also part of that is not not introduce more complexity than needed, for people that dont understand the difference between : and . having some things use one and some the other makes things confusing |
| 07:31.26 | Grum | eidolarr: true but having the same codestyle fit both instances and singletons, might as well use that? |
| 07:31.40 | Grum | yeah, the 'one way' makes it easier to read |
| 07:32.33 | eidolarr | do you think it's okay to use . instead, if you do it consistently? |
| 07:32.40 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 07:33.29 | eidolarr | and another thing that has weirded me out a little is :new |
| 07:33.31 | Torhal | The ":" is simply syntactic sugar |
| 07:33.43 | Torhal | eidolarr: tekkub does that a lot |
| 07:33.52 | eidolarr | which 'that'? |
| 07:33.56 | Grum | Torhal: yup; foo:bar(zut) is nothing more than: foo.bar(self, zut) |
| 07:33.58 | Torhal | :new() |
| 07:34.07 | cbreak_work | you can use ["new"]() instead. |
| 07:34.15 | cbreak_work | (if you pass the correct args |
| 07:34.19 | cbreak_work | ) |
| 07:34.36 | eidolarr | if you have like Class:new() and Class has a bunch of instance methods, isn't it a little weird that new() is also an instance method? |
| 07:35.16 | cbreak_work | Lua doesn't have instances like C++ |
| 07:35.17 | Grum | cbreak: mind explaining that one a bit more? :P |
| 07:35.32 | eidolarr | cbreak_work: is that valid syntax? I thought only if the function took exactly one string or table |
| 07:35.38 | krka | :new as an instance method makes sense if you think of it as prototype based OO |
| 07:35.38 | cbreak_work | Grum: a["b"](a) is equivalent to a:b() |
| 07:35.56 | Grum | yeah ok |
| 07:35.57 | Torhal | Indeed |
| 07:36.00 | cbreak_work | eidolarr: you're thinking of something else |
| 07:36.12 | Arrowmaster | cbreak_work: no its equivalent to a.b() |
| 07:36.13 | Grum | as a.b == a["b"] |
| 07:36.32 | krka | and lua is much closer to prototype based oo than class based |
| 07:36.33 | Arrowmaster | er missed the a in the one |
| 07:36.35 | cbreak_work | Arrowmaster: read again :) |
| 07:36.46 | krka | though it's usual to emulate class based oo with prototype based oo |
| 07:36.50 | eidolarr | krka: what's an example of a prototype based OO language? |
| 07:36.53 | Grum | lua is more like js |
| 07:37.14 | krka | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prototype-based_programming |
| 07:38.03 | eidolarr | Lua is the only one on that list I've heard of, except perl and tcl |
| 07:38.09 | eidolarr | which require special plugins |
| 07:38.26 | eidolarr | ah javascript |
| 07:38.27 | cbreak_work | you don't know ECMAScript? |
| 07:38.28 | Grum | perl just has a helper module, nothing an AUTOLOAD sub cant fix if you do it yourself :) |
| 07:38.38 | eidolarr | no |
| 07:39.05 | cbreak_work | most of that crappy Web2.0 garbage is based on ECMAScript |
| 07:39.15 | eidolarr | ah I have never done web stuff |
| 07:39.24 | eidolarr | in my experience everyone who is a web developer hates being a web developer |
| 07:39.28 | eidolarr | so i stayed away |
| 07:39.34 | krka | smart |
| 07:39.48 | Grum | just wait until they standardize browsers then it will be fun |
| 07:39.52 | Grum | aka: it will never be fun |
| 07:40.22 | eidolarr | also there is a kind of arrogance toward web developers by other developers which i find interesting |
| 07:40.43 | Grum | not arrogance, its just hard and annoying work |
| 07:40.56 | cbreak_work | I like being a _real_ developer :D |
| 07:41.00 | Arrowmaster | because there are more bad web developers than bad other developers |
| 07:41.13 | Grum | its shitty documented, exceptions everywhere, if you want to do anything you are almost always forced to use some framework of people who have suffered more than you |
| 07:41.55 | eidolarr | I think it's more the perception that web developers do the boring mundane practical stuff |
| 07:42.13 | krka | and far too often, the crappy stuff |
| 07:42.19 | cbreak_work | and the useless stuff |
| 07:42.23 | cbreak_work | that's insecure, slow and anoying |
| 07:42.34 | eidolarr | also php |
| 07:42.44 | Arrowmaster | and the stuff that makes everybody want to kill them and we dont care if they only did it because their boss made them |
| 07:43.11 | Arrowmaster | like full flash websites |
| 07:43.31 | eidolarr | I hope the iphone remains dominant long enough to seriously damage flash |
| 07:43.43 | eidolarr | it is a totally rubbish application for how popular it is |
| 07:44.24 | eidolarr | it's also the only thing that has ever crashed my android phone heh |
| 07:44.28 | Grum | i love the 'insecure' part of all that ... all the issues are based around 1 thing, check your bloody external inputs |
| 07:45.36 | Arrowmaster | Grum: but thats what magic quotes is for in php! |
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| 07:45.57 | Grum | yeah lol /cry |
| 07:47.17 | cbreak_work | did you hear about the new windows link exploit? |
| 07:48.36 | eidolarr | nope |
| 07:48.58 | cbreak_work | seems all windows versions from 7 until back to the beginning are vulnerable |
| 07:49.11 | cbreak_work | looking at the file in windows explorer is enough to get infected |
| 07:49.42 | eidolarr | how does it work? |
| 07:49.56 | cbreak_work | a bug in windows' icon parsing |
| 07:50.13 | cbreak_work | seems they didn't check their external inputs. |
| 07:50.55 | cbreak_work | http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2010/07/new-windows-shortcut-zero-day-exploit-confirmed.ars |
| 07:53.51 | Jamash | "Siemens' software uses hardcoded passwords, making attack particularly simple." |
| 07:54.20 | eidolarr | wow |
| 07:55.00 | cbreak_work | isn't it fun? :=) |
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| 08:00.48 | Jamash | someone should sue microsoft into oblivion |
| 08:01.12 | cbreak_work | for what? |
| 08:01.21 | cbreak_work | software comes with no guarantee that it works |
| 08:01.33 | cbreak_work | I haven't read the ms eula |
| 08:01.53 | eidolarr | the courts would not be entertained by your defense |
| 08:01.55 | cbreak_work | but apples basically says you're not allowed to use it anywhere where it failing could be dangerous |
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| 08:02.20 | cbreak_work | the courts are bound by the law |
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| 08:02.34 | cbreak_work | and there's no law against bugs |
| 08:02.46 | eidolarr | you are headed the wrong way man |
| 08:02.51 | Jamash | let's say I sell you a car |
| 08:02.56 | Jamash | and your car explodes |
| 08:03.02 | eidolarr | or even doesn't work |
| 08:03.06 | cbreak_work | for cars there are security rules |
| 08:03.15 | cbreak_work | you have to get all kinds of testing over with |
| 08:03.17 | eidolarr | you are way off on this one man |
| 08:03.22 | cbreak_work | there's nothing similar for software |
| 08:03.27 | Jamash | then there should be such rules for software |
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| 08:03.32 | eidolarr | MS has been sued because new releases of their OS have broken compatibility with existing software from other vendors |
| 08:03.41 | eidolarr | they have entire teams dedicated to such clients |
| 08:03.41 | cbreak_work | maybe. someone would have to create such rules |
| 08:04.08 | Jamash | let's look at it another way, let's say I sell you a car that it turns out only has one key pattern |
| 08:04.17 | Jamash | every key fits every car of the same model |
| 08:04.45 | Jamash | there may be no law against doing that specifically |
| 08:04.48 | cbreak_work | that sounds fun. |
| 08:05.28 | cbreak_work | sounds like lots of bad publicity for you though :) |
| 08:05.40 | Jamash | actually this sort of thing happens |
| 08:05.51 | Arrowmaster | Jamash: why use a car analogy when you can use a diebold voting machine analogy |
| 08:05.59 | cbreak_work | mechanical keys have a very limited number of possibilities |
| 08:06.05 | Jamash | my mom unlocked and got inside a car of the same model with the same lock in the same parking lot |
| 08:06.15 | Jamash | before noticing it was the wrong car |
| 08:06.30 | eidolarr | contract law is very messy, it's not as simple as sticking an "if it breaks you can't sue us" disclaimer in your EULA |
| 08:06.36 | Jamash | Arrowmaster: good idea |
| 08:06.57 | cbreak_work | what happened with the voting machines? |
| 08:07.05 | Arrowmaster | they only had one key |
| 08:07.17 | cbreak_work | last thing I heard was that you stopped using them |
| 08:07.26 | Arrowmaster | i dont know |
| 08:07.28 | cbreak_work | but I kind of lost track of that history stream |
| 08:07.31 | Arrowmaster | i dont vote |
| 08:07.36 | eidolarr | voting machines seem to be an excellent source of examples of terrible systems security design |
| 08:07.36 | cbreak_work | noob |
| 08:07.45 | cbreak_work | votes by mail |
| 08:08.05 | Arrowmaster | my vote is pointless, the entire district is rigged |
| 08:08.41 | cbreak_work | how? |
| 08:08.46 | Arrowmaster | i live in ohio |
| 08:08.47 | Jamash | the US has no national standard for voting |
| 08:08.52 | Jamash | none |
| 08:08.54 | Jamash | at all |
| 08:09.02 | Arrowmaster | the US has no national standard for lots of things |
| 08:09.04 | cbreak_work | aren't you allowed to watch them counting? |
| 08:09.27 | Jamash | states have standards and counties have standards and localities have standards |
| 08:09.33 | Jamash | and they are _all different_ |
| 08:09.57 | eidolarr | my professor worked on voting machines and has been speaking for standardizing them recently |
| 08:10.16 | eidolarr | he said that judging by the drama in florida around bush's election, if people understood how broken voting machines actually are, there would be revolution |
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| 08:10.58 | cbreak_work | my country votes by writing stuff onto pieces of paper |
| 08:11.09 | cbreak_work | which we either put into a metal box at polling places, or send via mail |
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| 08:11.19 | Jamash | voting machines should be banned outright until such time as they can be proven more accurate than hand counting paper ballots |
| 08:11.23 | cbreak_work | I heard there are some cities where you can vote via some web page |
| 08:11.31 | Jamash | they should require fully open hardware and software |
| 08:11.50 | cbreak_work | I was in a very interesting class about security a few years back |
| 08:12.01 | cbreak_work | there are algorithms for completely secure, distributed voting |
| 08:12.04 | cbreak_work | provable |
| 08:12.07 | cbreak_work | with _maths_ |
| 08:12.20 | Jamash | my dad is involved in open voting machine stuff |
| 08:12.20 | cbreak_work | but they are unfortunately complicated and not practical at all |
| 08:12.25 | Arrowmaster | you know theres actually a quote from the diebold ceo or owner or something along the lines of 'i will do anything to make sure bush wins this election' |
| 08:13.10 | cbreak_work | funny. |
| 08:13.26 | cbreak_work | US elections are dumb anyway |
| 08:13.36 | Arrowmaster | they are |
| 08:13.40 | eidolarr | I thought that was Jeb Bush |
| 08:13.53 | Arrowmaster | the electoral college thing is outdated and needs to go away |
| 08:14.08 | Jamash | yes |
| 08:14.41 | eidolarr | that seems like a good idea in theory but in reality it is functionally "good enough" |
| 08:14.46 | Jamash | the problem is there are a lot of people in government who are outdated and need to go away |
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| 08:14.59 | Arrowmaster | it was good back when it was created |
| 08:15.13 | Jamash | but you can't get voting reform until you vote out the people who are corrupt, and you can't vote out the corrupt people until you get voting reform |
| 08:15.19 | Arrowmaster | but the reasons it was created for dont exist anymore |
| 08:15.32 | eidolarr | government in that respect seems a lot like maintaining and extending a big software system |
| 08:15.34 | Arrowmaster | Jamash: coup |
| 08:15.46 | Arrowmaster | Jamash: im going to make one |
| 08:15.51 | Jamash | so basically you have to either trick the old people into reform, or wait for them to die |
| 08:15.58 | eidolarr | sure the electoral college system isn't ideal, but it's not terrible, and changing it makes noise |
| 08:16.01 | cbreak_work | can't you just expose them? |
| 08:16.05 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 08:16.10 | Arrowmaster | it doesnt do shit |
| 08:16.24 | Jamash | it's not the electoral college per se that's terrible |
| 08:16.25 | eidolarr | what system would you use, popular vote? |
| 08:16.27 | Jamash | it's the entire system |
| 08:16.43 | cbreak_work | what do you need a president for? |
| 08:16.45 | Arrowmaster | the corruption is constantly pointed out but that doesnt do anything |
| 08:16.56 | cbreak_work | having one doesn't seem particularly useful. |
| 08:16.57 | zenzelezz | clearly elections should be FIFO |
| 08:17.03 | eidolarr | cbreak_work: the general idea is speed |
| 08:17.14 | eidolarr | if you do everything by committee, every decision takes a long time |
| 08:17.22 | airtonix | looking for someone whose used clonezilla multicasting |
| 08:17.33 | eidolarr | someone needs the power to make calls quickly, even if they can be overridden later |
| 08:17.35 | zenzelezz | I am not a committee! |
| 08:17.43 | Arrowmaster | cbreak_work: ideally if i was president, to declare corrupt congressmen as enemies of the state and ship them off to a black ops prison and hold a new election for their replacement, see how long it takes for things to clean up then |
| 08:17.52 | cbreak_work | eidolarr: a country that waits months until after an election to actually find out who really won can't claim to do this for speed |
| 08:18.07 | eidolarr | ? |
| 08:18.29 | Fisker | slaps Arrowmaster around a bit with a large trout |
| 08:18.32 | Fisker | slaps cbreak_work around a bit with a large trout |
| 08:18.42 | cbreak_work | from what I heard, you elect some guys who elect the president |
| 08:18.50 | Arrowmaster | we really do |
| 08:18.52 | cbreak_work | so... you don't actually know who will win until they elected them |
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| 08:19.12 | eidolarr | right but those are two totalyl different types of "speed" |
| 08:19.14 | Jamash | Arrowmaster: Then you get shot in the head. |
| 08:19.20 | eidolarr | I mean, the president has the power to make important decisions very quickly |
| 08:19.21 | cbreak_work | in my country, we elect the parliament, and they elect the federal councilors. (the seven highest executives) |
| 08:19.28 | Arrowmaster | its true, the electoral college delegates dont have to vote for who the state voted for |
| 08:19.30 | eidolarr | how fast the process works to introduce a new president is unrelated |
| 08:19.53 | cbreak_work | eidolarr: or look at the other results |
| 08:19.56 | eidolarr | IMO a good easy way to improve electoral colleges substantially would be to make every state use mixed voting |
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| 08:19.59 | cbreak_work | change? not yet. |
| 08:20.02 | cbreak_work | peace? not yet. |
| 08:20.16 | eidolarr | well that's a different argument |
| 08:20.21 | Arrowmaster | cbreak_work: i blame congress for that |
| 08:20.22 | eidolarr | this is the problem with talking about government |
| 08:20.23 | Jamash | while I would love to see Joe Lieberman declared a noncitizen based on his own legislation, I'd rather that nobody get declared a noncitizen |
| 08:20.26 | eidolarr | everything is a different argument |
| 08:21.20 | Jamash | the US has an old and creaky system which is difficult to change (by design) |
| 08:21.32 | Jamash | if you want a system that is easy to change, look at california |
| 08:21.38 | Jamash | which is a disaster if you don't know |
| 08:21.40 | eidolarr | I dunno about that |
| 08:21.54 | eidolarr | I think the US system is generally rather clever in the way it's built |
| 08:21.54 | Jamash | it's easier in california to amend the constitution than it is to pass a budget |
| 08:22.05 | Jamash | which means the constitution gets amended every goddamn election cycle |
| 08:22.06 | eidolarr | the problem is that it assumes that the populace is intelligent and politically informed |
| 08:22.26 | Arrowmaster | which they arent |
| 08:22.28 | Jamash | no, it assumes that most people are dumb but only the intelligent and politically informed get to vote |
| 08:22.33 | cbreak_work | it's easy to amend the constitution in my country too. not much of a problem |
| 08:22.37 | Jamash | (and white, and male) |
| 08:22.42 | cbreak_work | you just need 100k signatures, then a popular vote |
| 08:22.46 | Arrowmaster | considering all the news sources are all owned by the same company |
| 08:23.55 | eidolarr | I really don't think electoral colleges are that big a problem, they don't often diverge from the votes of the populace |
| 08:24.08 | eidolarr | the all-or-nothing nature of them in most states creates strange results though |
| 08:24.55 | Arrowmaster | no they dont diverge because i think most states have laws that their delegates will be in violation of if they do, but there is nothing preventing them from doing it |
| 08:25.05 | eidolarr | imo the problem is that you have people who get worked up about obama's birth certificate being fake and czars in the white house, instead of about the gradual and terrifying creep of executive power |
| 08:25.35 | Arrowmaster | his birth certificate was fake? |
| 08:25.46 | Jamash | I'm less concerned with the gradual and terrifying creep of executive power then I am with the gradual and terrifying creep of corporate power |
| 08:25.52 | Arrowmaster | or was that just what somebody was trying to claim? |
| 08:26.00 | eidolarr | it's real, and even if he wasn't a citizen, he would remain president |
| 08:26.05 | eidolarr | but people are dumb |
| 08:26.06 | Jamash | some fake people claim his birth certificate is fake |
| 08:26.46 | Arrowmaster | Jamash: like that god damn tea party crap, its all a corporate marketing scheme |
| 08:26.49 | eidolarr | corporate power is scary too |
| 08:27.39 | eidolarr | yeah the tea party is a curiously paradoxical construction |
| 08:27.44 | cbreak_work | you know what you should do americans? |
| 08:27.55 | Arrowmaster | kill all the idiots? |
| 08:27.58 | cbreak_work | stop voting for the morons and vote for someone sane |
| 08:28.02 | Jamash | we did |
| 08:28.07 | Jamash | his name was albert gore jr |
| 08:28.07 | cbreak_work | and not only for the president |
| 08:28.15 | cbreak_work | but for people who actually do stuff |
| 08:28.28 | eidolarr | well then you get into the two party system sucking |
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| 08:28.38 | cbreak_work | it does, doesn't it? :) |
| 08:28.39 | Jamash | but then the secretary of state of florida and the us supreme court stole the election |
| 08:28.57 | cbreak_work | my country has five or more parties. I don't remember them all. |
| 08:29.05 | Jamash | yeah multiparty systems are great |
| 08:29.08 | cbreak_work | unfortunately, each of them has it's idiots :( |
| 08:29.15 | Jamash | then you get the craziest party having the most leverage |
| 08:29.17 | Jamash | that's so awesome |
| 08:29.27 | eidolarr | the US "multiparty" system is neat when it works but imo not reactive enough |
| 08:29.39 | eidolarr | you really need at least one lost election to change anything |
| 08:29.42 | Jamash | </sarcasm> |
| 08:29.44 | Arrowmaster | maybe when i turn 35 i should run for president and my campaign will be that im independent and its time we show everybody that its not just a two party system |
| 08:29.54 | Jamash | ralph nader says hi |
| 08:30.06 | Arrowmaster | yeah i know its been tried |
| 08:30.07 | cbreak_work | Arrowmaster: is it legal to run for president without being rich? |
| 08:30.09 | Jamash | no |
| 08:30.20 | Arrowmaster | but has it been tried by somebody thats not old? |
| 08:30.37 | Jamash | you have to be rich *and* old |
| 08:30.55 | eidolarr | can you believe that sarah palin had a shot at being vice president? |
| 08:30.59 | eidolarr | that is so horrifying in retrospect |
| 08:31.14 | Jamash | can you believe that george w bush *was* president? |
| 08:31.20 | Jamash | that is still horrifying |
| 08:31.22 | Arrowmaster | can you believe she is going to try for president in the next election? |
| 08:31.31 | cbreak_work | sounds fun |
| 08:31.37 | eidolarr | I highly doubt she'll get anywhere |
| 08:31.41 | Arrowmaster | she wont |
| 08:31.46 | eidolarr | she'll probably drop out before the primary |
| 08:31.50 | eidolarr | well before it |
| 08:32.12 | Jamash | she'll be the first candidate for president with her own show on fox news |
| 08:32.25 | cbreak_work | eidolarr: in our multi party system, it's not like the party with the most votes wins |
| 08:32.27 | eidolarr | last I heard, her approval rating had absolutely tanked |
| 08:32.35 | Arrowmaster | nah i bet she will at least start the primaries but before they are even over she will be in a possition that is impossible for her to win so whe will drop out |
| 08:32.37 | Jamash | that's only among sane people |
| 08:32.38 | bleeter | woot my SC2 should be here Monday |
| 08:32.42 | cbreak_work | more, each party wins about as much as they got votes |
| 08:32.52 | Jamash | her base is insane people, so it doesn't matter |
| 08:32.53 | Fisker | says who bleeter ? |
| 08:33.00 | abra | local newAmt = tableused[player][i]. (i want to use a variable here) how do i do that? |
| 08:33.08 | eidolarr | Arrowmaster: 2 years is a lot of time and she has already lost like half of her support, I don't think she'll even bother tbh |
| 08:33.09 | Arrowmaster | cbreak_work: actually i think there has to be a majority |
| 08:33.10 | cbreak_work | bleeter: my distributor wrote me an e-mail stating they are not allowed to send it out early |
| 08:33.12 | bleeter | Fisker: says EBGames and the delivery tracking I'v got |
| 08:33.12 | eidolarr | cbreak_work: what country? |
| 08:33.19 | cbreak_work | switzerland |
| 08:33.34 | cbreak_work | it's tiny |
| 08:33.36 | Fisker | what if i steal it bleeter ? |
| 08:33.39 | cbreak_work | maybe that would not work in a big country |
| 08:33.59 | bleeter | Fisker: You'd need to know where it is, and Australia's a very very big place ;) |
| 08:34.21 | eidolarr | the US multi party system is basically, if a third party ever picks up momentum, one or both of the other parties steal their ideas and incorporate them |
| 08:34.26 | Fisker | not big enough bleeter |
| 08:34.26 | Jamash | one thing about the electoral college is that you only need 25% of the popular vote to become president |
| 08:34.34 | Fisker | but GG though |
| 08:34.43 | Jamash | half the votes in states making up half the population |
| 08:34.45 | bleeter | Fisker: You've got 48 hours, my friend ;) |
| 08:34.47 | Fisker | This store haven't sent notices that they've begun packing |
| 08:35.07 | Fisker | So if that means that they don't get the copies until Monday then GG i might not even get it on tuesday |
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| 08:35.21 | cbreak_work | eidolarr: so that's why it seems like you only have one party? :) |
| 08:35.22 | bleeter | well, probably 72 |
| 08:35.31 | cbreak_work | because they stole from each other so much |
| 08:35.33 | eidolarr | Jamash: I stand by all-or-nothing being dumb, losing a vote 49-51 in a big state is devastating and the results don't mirror the voters' intentions |
| 08:35.47 | Jamash | all or nothing is insane |
| 08:35.59 | bleeter | Fisker: I've seen photos of various stores unpacking today, pretty obvious got sent out from wharehouse this week. |
| 08:36.25 | Fisker | maybe in your case |
| 08:36.32 | eidolarr | cbreak_work: well they have to emphasize their differences because it helps them get votes from their bases, but if the voters don't care about the important differences, it doesn't matter much - again, people are dumb |
| 08:37.10 | Jamash | and then of course to win a primary you only need 12.5% of the vote |
| 08:37.18 | Jamash | half the votes of half the voters in half the states |
| 08:37.45 | eidolarr | I think something big needs to happen in the next 10 years or it's going to be very bad to be poor or even middle class in the US |
| 08:37.56 | eidolarr | I read an article about retirement and saving recently and it was ugly |
| 08:38.00 | Jamash | the corporatists want to bring back feudalism |
| 08:38.18 | Fisker | give me sc2 bleeter |
| 08:38.27 | bleeter | no u |
| 08:39.00 | eidolarr | Fisker: auth servers probably aren't even up but you could still lick the box |
| 08:39.35 | Jamash | eidolarr: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2000/07/07/ |
| 08:39.40 | Fisker | i know eidolarr |
| 08:39.49 | Fisker | but i don't want to wait for like half a day to play SC2 |
| 08:40.00 | eidolarr | are you playin the sp or online? |
| 08:40.21 | Fisker | SP to begin with |
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| 08:40.35 | eidolarr | did you see that new trailer recently? |
| 08:40.40 | Fisker | yes |
| 08:40.42 | eidolarr | how the hell is there that much cinematic footage |
| 08:40.44 | Jamash | you're going to be stuck with SP until battle.net stabilizes |
| 08:40.50 | Jamash | which should take a week |
| 08:41.06 | augustl | just got a beta key from wowinterface.com, yay. Key still isn't working. I thought I'd start downloading the client though. But can't find a download link. Where is it? |
| 08:41.09 | Fisker | I'm just hoping to god that the custom map making is fixed |
| 08:41.15 | Fisker | or else this game is going to suck online |
| 08:41.23 | eidolarr | not a ladder player? |
| 08:41.30 | Jamash | augustl: the download link is in the game management on battle.net |
| 08:41.33 | Fisker | not really no |
| 08:41.41 | eidolarr | there was more cinematic in that trailer as like, all of wc3 combined |
| 08:41.43 | augustl | Jamash: I don't have the game yet though since the key isn't working. |
| 08:41.43 | Fisker | custom games are more fun online |
| 08:41.44 | augustl | or do I? |
| 08:41.53 | eidolarr | custom games are really damn fun |
| 08:41.55 | Fisker | RTS is more of a lan/friends thing for me |
| 08:42.06 | Jamash | augustl: what kind of error are you getting? |
| 08:42.09 | cbreak_work | no lan or friends support in SC2, sorry |
| 08:42.23 | augustl | Jamash: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33892&page=19 |
| 08:42.25 | Jamash | friends yes, lan no |
| 08:42.34 | Fisker | lan is there |
| 08:42.38 | Fisker | it's just over battle.net |
| 08:42.42 | eidolarr | did they clean up custom games at all? coordinating to playt a custom game online with your buddy is a bitch in wc3 |
| 08:42.46 | Fisker | Which is fine with me |
| 08:42.53 | augustl | Jamash: tldr "The key you entered is not a game license, try code redemption." |
| 08:42.59 | augustl | that's the error msg from battle.net |
| 08:43.05 | Fisker | dunno eidolarr |
| 08:43.06 | Jamash | yeah everyone's getting that |
| 08:43.10 | augustl | idd |
| 08:43.10 | Fisker | but last we betaed it was like this: |
| 08:43.17 | Jamash | basically wait until blizzard fixes it |
| 08:43.20 | augustl | Jamash: I would like to start the download though |
| 08:43.23 | Fisker | Europeans are second rate and weren't allowed to make custom maps |
| 08:43.36 | Fisker | oh and if they were allowed to make custom maps, then it would be regionlocked anyway |
| 08:43.46 | eidolarr | regionlocked to where? |
| 08:43.50 | Fisker | europe |
| 08:43.50 | Jamash | what region are you in, augustl? |
| 08:43.53 | augustl | Jamash: eu |
| 08:44.04 | Fisker | Custom maps in the beta were only published in the region it was uploaded |
| 08:44.14 | eidolarr | is that the plan for retail? |
| 08:44.17 | eidolarr | that would be retarded |
| 08:44.18 | Fisker | we don't know |
| 08:44.24 | Fisker | they never wanted to answer those concerns |
| 08:44.43 | eidolarr | unfortunately that probably means yes |
| 08:44.56 | eidolarr | can you easily upload to other regions? maybe it's for localization |
| 08:45.01 | Jamash | find someone with an eu beta, get them to extract the torrent and email it to you |
| 08:45.24 | augustl | looks around for someone with an EU beta.. |
| 08:45.41 | Fisker | that was another fun thing eidolarr |
| 08:45.43 | jnwhiteh | THE CONSEQUENCES WILL NEVER BE THE SAME! |
| 08:45.52 | Fisker | You couldn't add localizations in the beta either |
| 08:45.58 | Fisker | though i believe they fixed that in a patch |
| 08:46.09 | augustl | ah, it's just http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/clients/pc/beta-downloader-enUS.html for US |
| 08:46.13 | Fisker | But to begin with it would be made in your clients locale and that locale only |
| 08:46.23 | augustl | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/downloads/clients/pc/beta-downloader-enGB.html worked yay |
| 08:46.32 | Jamash | that's the wrath beta yo |
| 08:46.55 | augustl | haha phail |
| 08:46.55 | Jamash | welcome to 2008 |
| 08:46.57 | eidolarr | i have to say |
| 08:47.04 | Fisker | i'd find a link to the downloader but i don't have the authenticator on me |
| 08:47.05 | Fisker | :o |
| 08:47.11 | augustl | aww |
| 08:47.20 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: lrn2flexauth. |
| 08:47.21 | jnwhiteh | kthx. |
| 08:47.22 | eidolarr | blizzard's recent decisions have instilled in me a deep concern for their hipness status |
| 08:47.26 | Fisker | jnwhiteh no. |
| 08:47.31 | Fisker | 6 digits > 8 |
| 08:47.36 | jnwhiteh | ... |
| 08:47.39 | Fisker | why even make it 8? Pointless change |
| 08:47.39 | jnwhiteh | ruserious? |
| 08:47.44 | augustl | eidolarr, Fisker: s/blizzard/activision/ CONSPIRACY!!! |
| 08:47.48 | jnwhiteh | you're that lame? |
| 08:47.50 | jnwhiteh | failness. |
| 08:47.55 | Fisker | also keyfob > unlocking your mobile, running the app, etc. |
| 08:48.06 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: you don't have to run you app |
| 08:48.06 | eidolarr | augustl: well activision is pumping them mad bux, i would find it hard to believe that they have no influence |
| 08:48.07 | jnwhiteh | fucking nublet. |
| 08:48.09 | jnwhiteh | there's a widget |
| 08:48.17 | Fisker | FUCKING AWESOME? |
| 08:48.23 | jnwhiteh | fail. |
| 08:48.36 | Fisker | the normal authenticator app should have that too |
| 08:48.37 | Fisker | jerks |
| 08:48.40 | jnwhiteh | well it doesn't. |
| 08:48.42 | Fisker | Antiarc |
| 08:48.42 | jnwhiteh | hence why you don't us eit. |
| 08:48.45 | Jamash | what's the difference between an app and a widget? |
| 08:48.46 | Fisker | make it a lockscreen too |
| 08:48.57 | jnwhiteh | Jamash: one you have to open, same as your pC |
| 08:49.01 | jnwhiteh | the other is always visible on your homescreen. |
| 08:49.11 | eidolarr | today i learned AT&T locks third party apps from their android phones, wtf are they even doing anymore |
| 08:49.16 | augustl | is writing a widget right now |
| 08:49.18 | augustl | android dev is phun |
| 08:49.19 | Jamash | so, there's a constantly updating 8 digit number on your homescreen? |
| 08:49.24 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 08:49.28 | jnwhiteh | well yes |
| 08:49.31 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 08:49.36 | eidolarr | augustl: write a duck duck go widget |
| 08:49.36 | jnwhiteh | its just not 'constantly updating' |
| 08:49.45 | Jamash | every 30 seconds I mean |
| 08:49.48 | augustl | eidolarr: I'm not a duck duck go user |
| 08:49.58 | eidolarr | that can be easily corrected |
| 08:50.04 | augustl | perhaps I should be, a lot of people seem to endorse it |
| 08:50.11 | jnwhiteh | Jamash: yes, but you don't leave your phone open for minutes at a time on the home screen. do you? |
| 08:50.14 | jnwhiteh | I certainly don't =) |
| 08:50.21 | Jamash | wtf is duck duck go |
| 08:50.30 | eidolarr | a search engine made by like one guy for giggles |
| 08:50.37 | eidolarr | which is actually totally sweet |
| 08:50.50 | Jamash | let me guess, he searches google and removes the ads |
| 08:51.10 | augustl | no |
| 08:51.18 | augustl | he has his own crawler and indexer and everything |
| 08:51.43 | eidolarr | it's actually pretty gangster, worth checking out |
| 08:52.06 | Fisker | but really jnwhiteh |
| 08:52.07 | eidolarr | I really like the keyboard navigation |
| 08:52.12 | Fisker | he has to make a lockscreen replacement |
| 08:52.14 | jnwhiteh | really Fisker |
| 08:52.16 | jnwhiteh | or not |
| 08:52.17 | Fisker | that would be massively awesome |
| 08:52.20 | Jamash | ah, he searches bing and removes the ads |
| 08:52.22 | Fisker | he should |
| 08:52.22 | augustl | eidolarr: vim like or emacs like? |
| 08:52.29 | Fisker | ~seen Antiarc |
| 08:52.30 | purl | antiarc is currently on #wowuidev (54m 13s) #wowace (54m 13s) #curseforge (54m 13s), last said: 'I should fix that'. |
| 08:52.34 | Jamash | and yahoo |
| 08:52.35 | Fisker | GET OVER HERE |
| 08:52.48 | augustl | Jamash: "removing the ads" is not what he's doing though |
| 08:52.54 | eidolarr | augustl: neither just arrow keys |
| 08:52.56 | augustl | Jamash: it's perfectly legal, he uses APIs |
| 08:53.08 | freebaser | Getting an "Unable to validate game version" on the beta and I've done all the fixes in the blue post. Anyone have a suggestion?(hopefully not reinstall) |
| 08:53.16 | eidolarr | well maybe vim, idk vim |
| 08:53.21 | augustl | freebaser: it's like that for everyone in lastest batch |
| 08:53.40 | augustl | freebaser: didn't know there was a blue post, got a link? |
| 08:53.48 | eidolarr | I really like the !code search |
| 08:53.56 | freebaser | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26262866282&postId=262603729097&sid=2000#1 |
| 08:54.00 | eidolarr | and all the bang searches |
| 08:54.05 | augustl | freebaser: tnx |
| 08:54.26 | augustl | freebaser: oh nvm, that's not the error I was talking about. |
| 08:55.52 | freebaser | seems repair doesnt work for the beta either |
| 08:56.10 | Fisker | Antiarc i will end you |
| 08:56.50 | Jamash | has fisker ever actually ended anyone? |
| 08:57.02 | eidolarr | there was that one time |
| 08:59.35 | Jamash | so I tamed a fox |
| 08:59.40 | Jamash | it is called "Wolf" |
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| 08:59.49 | Jamash | I think wow is confused |
| 09:01.13 | zenzelezz | you tamed a fox with delusions of grandeur |
| 09:01.28 | Jamash | here's a cool bug: pets get aspect of the wild x2 |
| 09:01.38 | Jamash | 259 nature resistance |
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| 09:03.29 | Jamash | are there any bosses that only do nature damage? |
| 09:03.53 | cbreak_work | many |
| 09:04.07 | cbreak_work | all the four outdoor green dragon to some extent |
| 09:04.12 | cbreak_work | hydraxian |
| 09:04.24 | cbreak_work | vasjshshs |
| 09:04.26 | Jamash | my pet could solo them probably |
| 09:04.32 | Fisker | slaps cbreak_work around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:05.16 | cbreak_work | grobulus |
| 09:06.11 | Jamash | Problem: In Cataclysm, after level 60 nobody will ever use a land mount again. |
| 09:06.27 | Jamash | Solution: Allow land mounts to fly. |
| 09:06.37 | zenzelezz | why is that a problem? |
| 09:06.44 | cbreak_work | ... that's a dumb solution |
| 09:06.45 | Arrowmaster | i have a flying carpet why cant my bear ride on the carpet! |
| 09:07.00 | Jamash | zenzelezz: because I spent 12,500g on a mechanohog. |
| 09:07.15 | zenzelezz | that's your own fault |
| 09:07.16 | cbreak_work | aren't they free? |
| 09:07.25 | Jamash | not anymore! |
| 09:08.04 | eidolarr | the lucky ones who had them when they were immune to fall damage will never question their investment |
| 09:08.37 | Jamash | I like how my priest can cast Dispersion while mounted |
| 09:08.37 | Cyprias | or how it dismounted you 3 feet to the left allowing you to jump threw walls/buildings. :) |
| 09:08.53 | Jamash | I'm a blob of Shadow energy on a flying carpet. |
| 09:09.21 | eidolarr | you might think that a blob of shadow energy would be able to fly on its own |
| 09:09.29 | eidolarr | but you would be totally wrong |
| 09:09.53 | Jamash | yep |
| 09:13.43 | eidolarr | I really like the !code search |
| 09:13.46 | eidolarr | err oops |
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| 09:15.13 | Jamash | I wish I could tame basilisks |
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| 09:24.33 | Fisker | slaps robokitty around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:24.44 | Fisker | in blockbuster we brrr |
| 09:25.44 | augustl | wolfram alpha ftw http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=1:15pm+edt+22+July |
| 09:26.02 | augustl | copy-pasted the timestamp from Cairenn's update of the beta key post |
| 09:28.45 | Fisker | meh augustl |
| 09:29.08 | Fisker | 13:15 + 6 > Wolfram Alpha |
| 09:29.21 | augustl | knowing + 6 takes Wolfram Alpha |
| 09:29.37 | augustl | knowing what the number is, taking daylight savings into accouint |
| 09:29.45 | augustl | -i |
| 09:30.12 | Kaso | wolfram alpha is awesome |
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| 09:30.56 | Fisker | not really augustl |
| 09:30.56 | harl | wuff |
| 09:31.18 | Fisker | and you don't really have to take daylight savings into account since we're both observing it |
| 09:31.25 | Jamash | I tamed a crab |
| 09:31.31 | augustl | Fisker: I don't know that though |
| 09:31.31 | Fisker | so it's just like EST if we weren't observing daylight savings time |
| 09:31.35 | Fisker | You should |
| 09:31.54 | augustl | and does daylight savings start on the same date? Etc etc |
| 09:31.54 | Jamash | It's all spiky |
| 09:32.05 | augustl | there are so many edge cases that you may or may not have to take into account |
| 09:32.08 | cbreak_work | DST is not purely algorithmic |
| 09:32.15 | Jamash | I named it Fisker |
| 09:32.24 | cbreak_work | microsoft hat to issue a patch to fix their algorithm some time back |
| 09:32.24 | harl | crabs are ok. i'm much more comfortable with crabs than with apes. |
| 09:33.09 | Fisker | Well you're right about that they don't start on the same augustl |
| 09:33.14 | Fisker | But then it will be called EST |
| 09:33.22 | Fisker | and then it's +1 hour |
| 09:33.26 | Fisker | i.e. 7 |
| 09:47.00 | Fisker | slaps harl around a bit with a large trout |
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| 10:19.09 | augustl | http://developer.android.com/resources/samples/Wiktionary/src/com/example/android/wiktionary/WordWidget.html - a comment says "To prevent any ANR timeouts, we perform the update in a service" - why is that? |
| 10:21.06 | Fisker | because your face augustl |
| 10:21.06 | Fisker | so |
| 10:21.07 | augustl | WAIT THIS IS not #android-dev |
| 10:21.09 | Fisker | Looking forward to Darkspore? |
| 10:21.13 | Fisker | it isn't augustl |
| 10:21.15 | Fisker | how did you know? |
| 10:21.36 | augustl | I got a reading |
| 10:31.08 | zenzelezz | http://averagecats.com/submissions/cat_uploads/a4bd8610c1de1a.jpg |
| 10:33.24 | Fisker | slaps zenzelezz around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:37.59 | airtonix | recieves a "reading" from fiskers trouting |
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| 10:38.22 | airtonix | "insufficient data" |
| 10:38.28 | Fisker | slaps airtonix around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:38.51 | airtonix | "The block device you are trying to mount has errors" |
| 10:39.29 | airtonix | mm |
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| 10:43.00 | Fisker | ownt airtonix |
| 10:43.17 | Fisker | unless you just mounted the wrong type of device |
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| 10:44.29 | airtonix | <airplane WOOOOSSSSHHHH> |
| 10:44.46 | airtonix | hai |
| 10:44.55 | airtonix | i am wooshing airplanes over you fisker |
| 10:45.06 | Fisker | sweet |
| 10:45.11 | Fisker | because it's hot in here |
| 10:45.12 | airtonix | one just wooshed over you |
| 10:45.28 | Fisker | i want to make out with you airtonix |
| 10:45.43 | airtonix | asl |
| 10:45.49 | Fisker | naw |
| 10:46.21 | Fisker | btw eu forums down for me or everyone else? |
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| 10:46.38 | airtonix | isitjustdownformeoreveryoneelse.com |
| 10:46.47 | Fisker | no airtonix |
| 10:47.01 | airtonix | canthesiteloadforotherpeople.com |
| 10:47.36 | Fisker | slaps Hjalte around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:47.40 | airtonix | isyourmumreadyandwilling.org.ie |
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| 10:48.58 | augustl | the US is asleep now right? |
| 10:49.05 | Fisker | that depends augustl |
| 10:49.17 | augustl | are blizzard employees sleeping? :) |
| 10:49.22 | Fisker | I don't know |
| 10:49.26 | Fisker | they could be up late, or up early |
| 10:49.44 | airtonix | or out cold and being taken advantage of |
| 10:49.44 | Fisker | But i bet you that at any point in time there will be Blizzard Employees not sleeping |
| 10:50.00 | Fisker | (But yes it's 3:50 in the night where Blizzard is located) |
| 10:50.12 | airtonix | morning |
| 10:50.16 | augustl | still can't activate the beta key ;) |
| 10:50.25 | airtonix | let fisker test it out for you |
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| 10:52.36 | airtonix | lol |
| 10:53.11 | airtonix | spent last 30min raging why my bridged vbox couldn't ping google.... host eth0 didn;t have a gateway set. |
| 10:53.21 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:53.32 | airtonix | no |
| 10:53.33 | eidolarr | man that eth0 |
| 10:53.35 | eidolarr | what a card |
| 10:56.10 | airtonix | back to raging |
| 10:56.12 | Fisker | slaps airtonix around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:57.33 | augustl | I wonder if hax00rs are snatching beta keys since wowinterface.com/beta.php isn't https |
| 10:58.03 | airtonix | well yeah |
| 10:58.14 | airtonix | i saw your ip address and arps you |
| 10:58.56 | augustl | oh shi-- |
| 10:59.07 | airtonix | thats what she said. |
| 11:02.45 | Fisker | oh sweet airtonix |
| 11:03.00 | Fisker | i can get government paid viagra if i can't get it up |
| 11:05.37 | Fisker | That will get in handy when i'm dead |
| 11:05.38 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 11:05.38 | Fisker | unless i die with a permanent boner of course |
| 11:05.39 | cbreak_work | unlikely. blood pressure requires a working heart. |
| 11:05.39 | airtonix | "That's the sixth box of viagra today Fisker!" <local pharmacist> |
| 11:05.41 | Fisker | well cbreak |
| 11:05.41 | Fisker | what if i pay someone to stuff it? |
| 11:05.41 | airtonix | in your backside ? |
| 11:05.48 | cbreak_work | considered a mechanical alternative? |
| 11:06.13 | airtonix | like a fuel injected twin cam sr20 ? |
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| 11:09.49 | Fisker | i will physically harm you airtonix |
| 11:10.07 | Fisker | robokitty |
| 11:10.15 | Fisker | it appears you will have to brrr in blockbuster etc. |
| 11:13.02 | Fisker | omg chrome is spyware! |
| 11:13.21 | Fisker | it reports when people can't visit a page :O |
| 11:13.35 | Fisker | so now it says that "other users also have issues connecting to the wow forums etc." |
| 11:13.53 | foxlit | omg it has your keys |
| 11:14.00 | airtonix | :) |
| 11:21.33 | Fisker | slaps airtonix around a bit with a large trout |
| 11:31.13 | Fisker | http://blog.chromium.org/2010/07/release-early-release-often.html <-wat |
| 11:31.14 | Fisker | wat |
| 11:36.51 | bleeter | http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1938961 |
| 11:37.20 | Fisker | it's 13:37 |
| 11:40.18 | airtonix | and |
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| 11:55.13 | airtonix | fuuuu |
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| 12:06.04 | Fisker | gentlemen |
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| 12:29.46 | mikma | [wobin]: http://www.reghardware.com/2010/07/22/ipood/ |
| 12:31.35 | zenzelezz | "So what do you do for a living?" "I'm a company nurse at Blizzard" |
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| 12:40.05 | airtonix | fisker |
| 12:40.21 | airtonix | do you see owls when you dream ? |
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| 12:40.46 | Fisker | hey airtonix |
| 12:40.47 | Fisker | no |
| 12:40.51 | airtonix | ok |
| 12:40.57 | airtonix | take a deep breath |
| 12:41.02 | Arrowmaster | i think im going to goto sleep before it gets upto the fucking 93F that its supposed to today |
| 12:41.16 | airtonix | Arrowmaster, |
| 12:41.39 | Arrowmaster | fucking hot huh |
| 12:41.45 | airtonix | i suggest that you stop sleeping in the server room |
| 12:42.03 | Arrowmaster | youve got it backwards |
| 12:42.10 | airtonix | the noise would drive me bat shit crazy |
| 12:42.11 | krka | yo mama serves in the sleeping room! |
| 12:42.17 | airtonix | lol |
| 12:42.21 | Arrowmaster | except when im sleeping i spend all my time in what would be considered the server room |
| 12:42.46 | airtonix | "Server Room" |
| 12:42.47 | Arrowmaster | because the room is atleast 5F hoter than the rest of the house at all times |
| 12:42.58 | airtonix | hey |
| 12:43.05 | airtonix | you need a David Hamel device |
| 12:43.27 | *** join/#wowuidev Talyian (~Tali@unaffiliated/talyian) |
| 12:43.29 | airtonix | or a Searle Effect Generator |
| 12:44.19 | Fisker | oh QQ |
| 12:44.23 | Arrowmaster | ok well im hot tired and going to go sleep now |
| 12:44.30 | Fisker | went from 1,7mill exp to 6,4 mill |
| 12:44.35 | Fisker | required of course etc. |
| 12:44.46 | airtonix | zits ? |
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| 12:47.20 | zenzelezz | ohai peppy! |
| 12:52.51 | Fisker | hey zenzelezz |
| 12:52.58 | Fisker | not hey Lopeppeppy though |
| 12:53.52 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, zenzelezz. |
| 12:53.59 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker, jump off a cliff. :P |
| 13:00.14 | zenzelezz | so... a 19-year-old girl from Nigeria was stopped at Gardermoen (airport) with 20'000 Euros in her vagina |
| 13:00.26 | cbreak_work | in coins?! |
| 13:00.30 | zenzelezz | I assume notes |
| 13:00.50 | cbreak_work | in diamonds it'd have been easier. |
| 13:01.35 | Kaso | got a link to that? |
| 13:01.37 | zenzelezz | still, I guess it was better than the 31-year-old Nigerian man who was stopped with the same amount in his rear passage |
| 13:01.48 | zenzelezz | Kaso: only in Norwegian... http://www.dagbladet.no/2010/07/23/nyheter/innenriks/smugling/12679640/ |
| 13:04.11 | Kaso | Close enough |
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| 13:24.54 | Fisker | DENIED |
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| 13:56.10 | Kraps | http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/07/500x_133807940.jpg |
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| 14:21.41 | mikma | kraps: <3 |
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| 14:37.40 | Ackis | someone asked the wowace/CF twitters for a medal of honor beta key for the xbox 360 :( |
| 14:38.47 | A-KO | lol |
| 14:38.48 | A-KO | nice |
| 14:40.50 | mikma | apparently they have a raffle of beta keys |
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| 14:42.38 | nicoli_s | Ackis:not sure why we didnt get 360 keys |
| 14:42.42 | nicoli_s | since we got ps3 and pc ones |
| 14:43.10 | Ackis | 360 beta was just released |
| 14:43.16 | Ackis | I used my key from curse for it |
| 14:43.22 | Ackis | but this guy was replying to the wow beta |
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| 14:43.50 | Fisker | nom nom nom Ackis |
| 14:43.52 | Fisker | Darkspore btw? |
| 14:43.59 | Ackis | looks interesting |
| 14:44.03 | Ackis | not 100% hyped about it |
| 14:44.33 | Ackis | do magnets fuck with flash drives like they used to do with floppy disks? |
| 14:44.54 | Fisker | are you stupid? |
| 14:45.09 | Fisker | >:3 |
| 14:45.16 | Fisker | fucking magnets how do they work |
| 14:45.17 | cbreak_work | Ackis: magnetic hammers do. |
| 14:45.26 | Fisker | good point cbreak_work |
| 14:45.36 | Ackis | are you trolled Fisker? |
| 14:45.38 | Fisker | i'm guessing electromagnets could do it as well |
| 14:45.50 | Fisker | i'm never trolled Ackis |
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| 14:49.26 | augustl | any news on the beta key issue? |
| 14:49.35 | augustl | i.e. anything beyond what's on wowinterface.com |
| 14:49.43 | augustl | I just realized how stupid that question was. |
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| 16:49.05 | *** topic/#wowuidev is http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ || 3.3.x ToC: 30300 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || 3.3.5 Patch Notes are up: http://cot.ag/aCj0Wy || Are you going to BlizzCon (Oct 22 & 23)? http://tinyurl.com/22kjfxu || Cataclysm Closed Beta Test Begins http://cot.ag/9v2zkv || Cataclysm Beta Keys for Authors! http://cot.ag/aG4uy6 or http://cot.ag/bYZvjt || Happy Birthday Wobin & Gryphon |
| 16:50.20 | cog|work | Kraps: http://www.comicsalliance.com/2010/07/22/super-heroes-vs-the-westboro-baptist-church/ |
| 16:50.34 | cog|work | "WHAT DO WE WANT" "GAY SEX" "WHEN DO WE WANT IT" "NOW!" |
| 16:50.47 | Kraps | yeah, saw that :) |
| 16:53.37 | foxlit | ~ping |
| 16:53.37 | purl | ~pong |
| 16:53.44 | foxlit | hm, so not quite dead |
| 16:58.42 | *** join/#wowuidev Lunessa (~Lunessa@WoWUIDev/Lunessa) |
| 16:58.48 | Lunessa | station |
| 16:59.06 | cloudwolf | i see a spy! |
| 16:59.14 | cloudwolf | oh lol got hates sentries |
| 16:59.37 | |Jelly| | LUNESSA IS A MOON! |
| 16:59.41 | Morkesh | hmm, anyone here have experience with totemtimers? |
| 16:59.43 | |Jelly| | oh wait ... no he's not |
| 16:59.59 | mikma | morkesh: what's the problem |
| 17:00.14 | Lunessa | |Jelly|: That joke made me feel as if millions of voices had cried out and been suddenly silenced. |
| 17:00.26 | Morkesh | mikma: my friend is having an issue with nothing happening when he leftclicks the buttons |
| 17:00.27 | cog|work | hai Lunessa |
| 17:00.35 | Morkesh | in the past he'd leftclick and it would resummon |
| 17:00.48 | mikma | morkesh: tell him to update his addons, something is propably tainting stuff |
| 17:00.59 | Morkesh | alright :) will do |
| 17:01.31 | |Jelly| | Lunessa: Silences because they were finally able to enable Beta? |
| 17:01.38 | |Jelly| | Silenced* |
| 17:01.51 | cog|work | http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2010/07/23/sexy-tron-girl-video/ |
| 17:02.06 | cog|work | (SFW except maybe language) |
| 17:02.07 | Lunessa | is still needing an invite to Secure Hookers, you hookers! |
| 17:02.14 | cog|work | Lunessa: you home? |
| 17:02.28 | Lunessa | No, I are at the work thing. |
| 17:06.07 | Lunessa | for 5 more hours. |
| 17:06.16 | cog|work | i wonder if molotov would be willing to pay me to shill for them... i'd gladly do it -_- |
| 17:07.36 | cog|work | cake > pie > cake http://www.thisiswhyyourefat.com/?p=553684256 |
| 17:09.12 | Lunessa | cog|work: I had a coronary event just looking at the picture. |
| 17:09.33 | AbsolutRayne | yawns |
| 17:09.38 | AbsolutRayne | mornin |
| 17:09.47 | cog|work | hai |
| 17:09.59 | cloudwolf | cog work OH MY GOD |
| 17:10.08 | nevcairiel | i so need that pake |
| 17:10.11 | cloudwolf | thats 100x better than the concept of a tur ducken |
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| 17:11.18 | nicoli_s | mmmm this is why your fat |
| 17:11.36 | cloudwolf | nicoli if your directing that at me im not fat D: |
| 17:12.03 | cog|work | cloudwolf: name of the site lol? |
| 17:12.15 | cloudwolf | *facedesk* |
| 17:12.18 | cloudwolf | i didn't read most of hte link |
| 17:12.27 | cloudwolf | lol |
| 17:12.30 | Maldivia | cog|work: the nike burger is cooler :) |
| 17:13.05 | Maldivia | http://www.thisiswhyyourefat.com/?p=1191 |
| 17:13.57 | nevcairiel | I am more in the pie mood today, so the pake wins |
| 17:14.36 | nicoli_s | thats one of the more good looking things on that site |
| 17:14.45 | nicoli_s | some stuff just makes me sick, that makes me go mmmmmmm |
| 17:14.50 | Maldivia | well, it's dinner time for me, so :P |
| 17:16.01 | alestane | Phrase from the Python docs I found amusing: "The built-in versions have more space-efficient pickles." |
| 17:17.36 | foxlit | running rsync utterly destroys my ping times :/ |
| 17:20.17 | NightHawkTheSane | it's kind of shocking how far a small amount of bullshit will go |
| 17:25.26 | Lunessa | NHTS: Bullshit, applied liberally is the secret to human political success. |
| 17:27.14 | cog|work | is youtube FUBAR for anyone else? |
| 17:27.21 | cog|work | seems only embedded videos are working for me... |
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| 17:29.34 | alestane | Lunessa, the Friendly's grilled cheese burger is tasty, but bringing someone to share with is a good idea. |
| 17:29.47 | alestane | They cut it in half anyway. |
| 17:29.56 | Lunessa | alestane: And serve it with fries. |
| 17:30.09 | Lunessa | is suddenly hungry. |
| 17:32.52 | cloudwolf | Hey guys i have a good tip for you. Make sure you pay attention to the directoin a knife blade is pointing |
| 17:33.22 | augustl | yay, update from blizz on beta key issue http://wow.curseforge.com/announcements/how-to-queue-for-an-addon-author-cataclysm-beta-key/ |
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| 17:38.33 | alestane | Just try to cut with the back of a kitchen knife, cloudwolf? |
| 17:38.59 | cloudwolf | no. Was taking apart some old electronic toy and was using a swiss army knife to pry parts out |
| 17:39.57 | alestane | Popped loose and jabbed at you? |
| 17:40.02 | cloudwolf | yep |
| 17:40.10 | cloudwolf | i had the knife blade the wrong way : |
| 17:40.12 | cloudwolf | >.> |
| 17:40.19 | cloudwolf | shallow half in long cut on my thumb |
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| 17:42.43 | Fisker | slaps alestane around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:46.00 | Jinivus | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout |
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| 17:49.06 | nevcairiel | hah the abyssal sea horse got a model |
| 17:49.22 | Maldivia | it's animation is annoying as hell |
| 17:49.43 | nicoli_s | got a pic nevcairiel? |
| 17:50.58 | cloudwolf | I like how blizzard broke battle.net |
| 17:51.08 | nevcairiel | me too |
| 17:51.19 | nevcairiel | less people on beta stelaing my mobs this way |
| 17:51.20 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 17:51.43 | nevcairiel | how do you actually get back to deepholme when you did the maelstrom quest already? |
| 17:52.22 | cloudwolf | Nev it was called sarcasm XD |
| 17:52.32 | nevcairiel | i know |
| 17:52.34 | nevcairiel | mine wasnt |
| 17:52.37 | nevcairiel | hah! |
| 17:52.37 | cloudwolf | lol k |
| 17:52.39 | mikma | fail |
| 17:52.55 | nevcairiel | server restart <.< |
| 17:52.58 | cloudwolf | I want to be able to dl mah beta |
| 17:53.05 | Cide | cloudwolf, what's it called now? |
| 17:53.19 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: take the portal back (and the Earthshrine |
| 17:53.29 | Maldivia | at* |
| 17:53.36 | Fisker | slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:53.45 | nevcairiel | i want to get back to deepholme, not out of it |
| 17:53.46 | Fisker | slaps Maldivia around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:53.50 | Fisker | slaps Cide around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:54.03 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: the portal at the Earthshrine in SW or Org |
| 17:54.06 | mikma | nevcairiel: oh, i like that model |
| 17:54.12 | nevcairiel | ah there |
| 17:54.28 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: where the portals to ALL the new zones will be |
| 17:54.35 | nevcairiel | portals fail |
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| 17:55.32 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Lopeppeppy] by ChanServ |
| 17:55.38 | cog|work | hipeppeppy |
| 17:55.49 | Lopeppeppy | Heya. |
| 17:55.54 | mikma | the guild ui is bugged :( |
| 17:55.59 | Lopeppeppy | Please don't let me murder the sheeples? |
| 17:56.06 | cog|work | aww... why not? |
| 17:56.08 | Lopeppeppy | Still, mikma? Or in a new way this time? |
| 17:56.08 | alestane | welcomes Peppy back without going anywhere near her nose. |
| 17:56.25 | Lopeppeppy | Cog... they pay my salary, in the end. If I kill them all, what will I eat? |
| 17:56.30 | nevcairiel | wait.. do i fail this much or did they move the earthshrine island in sw? |
| 17:56.33 | cog|work | them |
| 17:56.38 | mikma | lopeppeppy: the statusbar goes out of the gui |
| 17:56.41 | alestane | Mutton. |
| 17:56.43 | mikma | but, professions ui <3 |
| 17:56.51 | nevcairiel | ah there it is |
| 17:57.08 | cog|work | ~alestane++ |
| 17:57.09 | Lopeppeppy | exploration fail, nevcairiel! :P |
| 17:57.33 | Lopeppeppy | I can eat meat. You're right. WTFBBQ at Peppy's Place! |
| 17:57.51 | Lopeppeppy | (1 out of 5 training candidates showed. Only one other canceled ahead. Rawr.) |
| 17:58.32 | nevcairiel | mikma: yeah the exp bar is way over lvl 1, but the level up didnt occur .. thats why it claims we're lvl 0 too =P |
| 17:58.39 | mikma | lopeppeppy: carnivour? stay awesome! |
| 17:58.57 | mikma | nevcairiel: ah, right. so it's expected that it'll go further |
| 17:59.22 | mikma | the guild ui tells us that we are missing Fast Track rank1 :D |
| 17:59.25 | Fisker | please Antiarc |
| 17:59.27 | Fisker | help me |
| 17:59.30 | nevcairiel | yeah |
| 17:59.32 | nevcairiel | but we have it |
| 17:59.45 | nevcairiel | at least tehy activated it this time |
| 17:59.52 | Fisker | remember if you has moar than 500 members you are officially jerks |
| 17:59.52 | mikma | true that |
| 18:01.08 | Fisker | FIRELOOOOOOORD |
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| 18:01.35 | nevcairiel | speaking of firelord, was that fixed now? |
| 18:01.38 | nevcairiel | goes to test |
| 18:01.47 | cog|work | "C++ - the only language on SO where chapter, paragraph, and verse are routinely quoted." |
| 18:01.48 | Fisker | it isn't |
| 18:01.52 | cog|work | Cide: ^ |
| 18:01.52 | Fisker | but server restart |
| 18:01.58 | Fisker | so i might just get it done |
| 18:01.59 | mikma | so, we are able to create characters in US servers, too :D |
| 18:02.09 | cog|work | ~seen Shirik |
| 18:02.11 | purl | shirik is currently on #norganna #wowuidev #wowace, last said: 'cogwheel: Agree, but just saying'. |
| 18:02.21 | Cide | cog|work, that's funny |
| 18:02.22 | MoonWitch | I would like to announce that I once again can fit in clothes that I wore 8 yrs ago.... |
| 18:02.34 | alestane | That was fast. |
| 18:02.45 | Cide | well |
| 18:02.49 | Cide | it must have taken him 8 years eh? |
| 18:02.53 | cog|work | MoonWitch: grats =) |
| 18:02.57 | MoonWitch | thanks :) |
| 18:02.59 | cog|work | him? |
| 18:03.03 | Cide | her |
| 18:03.05 | Cide | bleh |
| 18:03.10 | Cide | MoonWitch, you're female? |
| 18:03.19 | MoonWitch | Cide, yes I am :) |
| 18:03.23 | Cide | alright, sorry |
| 18:03.28 | Cide | don't have time to keep up with the sexes |
| 18:03.28 | MoonWitch | I had surgery a month ago to lose weight |
| 18:03.37 | Lunessa | Congratulations MoonWitch. Before you know it, every male in the channel will be saying "pics plx" |
| 18:03.37 | MoonWitch | I lost about 20kg in one month |
| 18:03.47 | MoonWitch | I long for such a moment |
| 18:03.48 | cog|work | gastric bypass? |
| 18:03.52 | Cide | congrats :) |
| 18:03.53 | MoonWitch | since it's never happened to me |
| 18:03.57 | MoonWitch | cog|work: yep |
| 18:03.58 | alestane | I remember you having surgery, but I didn't realize it had been that long. |
| 18:04.20 | Cide | my brother and my father have both had that |
| 18:04.32 | MoonWitch | And how are they now? |
| 18:04.36 | Cide | great |
| 18:04.40 | alestane | Given some of the comments you make about your tastes in clothing, MoonWitch, I'd be happy to see some pics if you were so inclined. |
| 18:04.52 | cog|work | ^ |
| 18:05.04 | Lopeppeppy | grins. Give an inch... |
| 18:05.17 | Gnarfoz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gD8nV8RlPU only in japan |
| 18:05.25 | MoonWitch | well, right now, my clothing style doesn't match what I like yet :( Since I feel that spending that much every month would be over the top |
| 18:05.32 | cog|work | youtube is giving me 404 for every video i try to watch |
| 18:05.37 | alestane | Lose six, Peppy? |
| 18:05.37 | cog|work | unless it's embedded |
| 18:05.39 | Lunessa | Hey, Lopeppeppy, at least I was subtle. :) |
| 18:05.40 | cog|work | i cleared cookies |
| 18:05.49 | Gnarfoz | cog|work: http://www.noob.us/humor/in-japan-vegetables-commit-suicide/ |
| 18:06.00 | Gnarfoz | same vid, but that works for you? |
| 18:06.11 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, far far more than that. You haven't seen me in months and months! |
| 18:06.31 | alestane | No, I haven't, and I'd like to fix that some time. |
| 18:06.32 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, you are quite transparently smooth. Like glass, only with naughty things written in dry erase. |
| 18:06.34 | cog|work | Gnarfoz: yep |
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| 18:06.50 | Lunessa | :D |
| 18:07.01 | Gnarfoz | cog|work: does http://www.youtube.com/v/1gD8nV8RlPU work? |
| 18:07.07 | cog|work | yep |
| 18:07.07 | cloudwolf | gnarfoz that reminds me of bobo bo bo bobobo |
| 18:07.09 | cloudwolf | .... |
| 18:07.13 | Lunessa | is a dirty old man anyway. |
| 18:07.22 | Gnarfoz | cog|work: so it's their website, apparently? o_O |
| 18:07.46 | cog|work | tries another browser |
| 18:07.56 | MoonWitch | wtf @ video of self-peeling veggies |
| 18:08.02 | cog|work | Gnarfoz: seems to be just chrome :\ |
| 18:08.12 | Gnarfoz | cog|work: have you enabled either of the html5 or feather betas or some other betas? (you said you cleared cookies, but maybe they store that account-side now, who knows)? |
| 18:08.14 | alestane | I'm not sure I've seen you since last Arisia, Peppy. This should be remedied. |
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| 18:08.15 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
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| 18:08.31 | cog|work | Gnarfoz: yeah, actually i do have some of the betas enabled... |
| 18:08.54 | Lopeppeppy | maybe you have conflicting conflicts! |
| 18:08.55 | cog|work | futzes some more |
| 18:09.11 | Fisker | cog|work |
| 18:09.12 | Fisker | i hate people |
| 18:09.19 | Gnarfoz | I hate blizz people |
| 18:09.21 | Gnarfoz | :| |
| 18:09.28 | Gnarfoz | make beta key work nao |
| 18:09.29 | cog|work | restarted chrome and it works now |
| 18:09.59 | Lopeppeppy | When in doubt, restart a Windoze item! |
| 18:10.40 | Lunessa | re: gastric bypass, my mom had it done nearly 30 years ago. dietary recommendations of your doctor should be followed most carefully. My mom has to inject certain vitamins now that she no longer absorbs well from food. But her health is good, and so's her weight. :) |
| 18:10.44 | cog|work | i lied |
| 18:10.49 | cog|work | now it's not working again... sigh |
| 18:11.01 | cog|work | i'm not signed in so it's not that... |
| 18:11.57 | *** join/#wowuidev Pneumatus (~WiN@unaffiliated/pneumatus) |
| 18:12.12 | cog|work | i'm also getting 404 errors on sites with google ads :\ |
| 18:12.17 | cloudwolf | gnarfoz LOOOOOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-l7pUYrRh0 |
| 18:12.55 | Fisker | hey cog|work |
| 18:12.57 | Gnarfoz | cog|work: hosts file messed up, dns server broken (try google's at 8.8.8.8 / 8.8.4.4)? |
| 18:13.06 | cog|work | nah... it's probably just that i'm on dev channel |
| 18:13.08 | cog|work | it works in IE |
| 18:13.44 | Gnarfoz | oh, yeah |
| 18:13.54 | Gnarfoz | dev channel gets the blame, then |
| 18:14.55 | cloudwolf | gnarfoz this show is just wtf... |
| 18:15.21 | Gnarfoz | I wouldn't know! |
| 18:15.21 | cloudwolf | it went form suicide vegetables to flying cobras vs mongooses and now i just saw one where theres mushrooms growing as aunicorns horn |
| 18:15.51 | cloudwolf | and the horn looks like a dildo... and when she rips it off of the unicrons head he starts bleeding profusely causing a rainbow from his blood squirting too high... japan has some issues... |
| 18:15.58 | Gnarfoz | lol |
| 18:16.25 | MoonWitch | cloudwolf: link? |
| 18:16.31 | cloudwolf | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP_OM6XWOmo |
| 18:16.34 | MoonWitch | seriously so messed up it sounds funny |
| 18:17.03 | Fisker | i want you cog|work |
| 18:17.05 | cloudwolf | i saw the unicorns mushroom horn and went OH GOD Is this an H show? no no no its not.... |
| 18:17.38 | MoonWitch | and that was supposed to look like a mushroom? |
| 18:17.42 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 18:17.58 | MoonWitch | OMG |
| 18:18.01 | MoonWitch | lolololololol |
| 18:18.35 | cloudwolf | i don't even know wtf is going on with this show |
| 18:18.43 | cloudwolf | and i dont think i could sit and watch an entire episodes |
| 18:18.48 | cloudwolf | but ROFLMFAO its so wrong |
| 18:19.03 | MoonWitch | I am so going to watch episodes |
| 18:19.07 | MoonWitch | for the lulz |
| 18:19.18 | Lunessa | Wow... I need to use my authenticator to login to forums. |
| 18:19.27 | Kraps | Lunessa: thanks for the buckle :p |
| 18:19.52 | Lunessa | You're welcome. |
| 18:19.52 | MoonWitch | food time |
| 18:19.52 | Lopeppeppy | Really, Lunessa? When did they make that change? *sigh* |
| 18:20.05 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: I didn't have to do it Wednesday, but I do now. |
| 18:21.23 | cloudwolf | lol bnet is broken forms are changed |
| 18:21.32 | cloudwolf | and theys till havn't added the option to toggle friend of friend off |
| 18:21.45 | cloudwolf | OH and sc2 is coming out in a couple of days |
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| 18:22.42 | Lopeppeppy | probably why the changes. |
| 18:22.49 | foxlit | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34126 |
| 18:22.53 | foxlit | my head hurts :( |
| 18:23.21 | mikma | ewwwwwww |
| 18:23.27 | mikma | there's some stupid borders on my dk stances |
| 18:25.20 | Adys | kd3, for you |
| 18:25.21 | Adys | [19:24:23] <Adys> i need help |
| 18:25.21 | Adys | [19:24:49] <Adys> theres a cloudhole in the sky and a really neat sun glare going through |
| 18:25.21 | Adys | [19:24:51] <Adys> and i thought |
| 18:25.21 | Adys | [19:25:02] <Adys> "Huh, when were godrays fixed on opengl" |
| 18:26.05 | Jamash | it's a problem |
| 18:28.04 | Jamash | foxlit: O_o |
| 18:28.27 | Jamash | what is this I don't even |
| 18:28.47 | ccox | When you look at the sky and muse on which Photoshop filter it looks like - then you know you have a problem. |
| 18:28.52 | nevcairiel | so, apparently you cant do the firelord quest alone |
| 18:28.54 | Lopeppeppy | I can't read the blue/red text on that, foxlit, it damages my eyes! |
| 18:28.57 | nevcairiel | stupid =P |
| 18:29.31 | cloudwolf | hmm that cloud looks like render clouds with a 30 degree twirl |
| 18:31.11 | Jamash | foxlit: he's using nonexistent character classes |
| 18:31.12 | ccox | GradientMap #239be7 to #dfeaf1 |
| 18:31.28 | foxlit | Jamash: I'm not in doubt about the multitude of problems there |
| 18:33.07 | Jamash | my advice would be throw away the entire function and start over |
| 18:33.27 | foxlit | What puzzles me is how one would even come up with those 25 lines of junk |
| 18:33.30 | Jamash | yeah |
| 18:33.38 | Jamash | it's clearly some form of cargo-cult programming |
| 18:34.10 | Morkesh | http://www.moronail.net/img/6587_im-on-a-cake haha |
| 18:34.21 | Jamash | nice |
| 18:35.04 | cog|work | :) |
| 18:35.14 | Jamash | I think it's interesting that shuffle managed to figure out that you can use a table as an argument to string.gmatch but is apparently totally unaware of how character classes work |
| 18:36.05 | cog|work | "My problem is line 14" no....... no it's not.... -_- |
| 18:37.01 | Kraps | whats going on? |
| 18:37.05 | Jamash | %g = gold, %s = silver, %c = copper >_> |
| 18:37.21 | cog|work | Kraps: foxlit's link at HH:22 |
| 18:37.50 | AbsolutRayne | Monster Hunter Tri can really make you hate people... |
| 18:39.40 | Jamash | so first the code replaces g, s and c with colored versions of those letters |
| 18:39.49 | Jamash | then it does a bunch of total bullshit |
| 18:40.37 | Morkesh | cog|work: maybe you can help me here, we spoke about the hybridscrollframe template yesterday and i figured it out, now i'm wondering, it's gonna be a list of items and there'll be 5 visible buttons at a time, would it be best to make 5 static buttons to reuse or just generate a button for each? i've seen both done but guessing the first way is the best |
| 18:40.51 | Jamash | it seems to go to a great deal of trouble to add, then remove the letters g s and c |
| 18:42.11 | cog|work | Morkesh: if you're using a particular scroll frame template then you do whatever the template's code is expecting |
| 18:42.35 | cog|work | i've never used hybridscrollframetemplate i just seemed to have better search fu than you yesterday orning ;) |
| 18:42.38 | cog|work | morning* |
| 18:42.43 | Morkesh | aye aye cap'n! :) |
| 18:42.53 | Morkesh | haha aye, effin antihistamines been keeping me drowsy for days |
| 18:43.06 | Morkesh | damn you doctor and your silly solutions |
| 18:43.25 | alestane | Has Flash seemed more unstable in Firefox lately? |
| 18:43.41 | Lopeppeppy | yes, Alestane. They rolled out a firefox update for that, so update yourself! |
| 18:43.45 | foxlit | Suppose I had a table with a non-sequential integer primary key |
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| 18:45.39 | Fisker | slaps foxlit around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:45.45 | alestane | Hum, I still have 3.5.7. |
| 18:46.09 | alestane | Aren't we up to 3.6.something? |
| 18:46.22 | foxlit | Then, having a particular value, I'd like to fetch rows with that value, and the immediately preceding and following rows |
| 18:46.51 | Lopeppeppy | 3.6.7 |
| 18:46.54 | foxlit | I can't do that in a single SQL query, can I? |
| 18:47.07 | Lopeppeppy | update it, and then your Flash itself, and you should be good. |
| 18:47.26 | cog|work | foxlit: sort of like a grep -C for SQL? |
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| 18:47.54 | alestane | Sort of surprised it has not been bugging me. |
| 18:48.06 | Lopeppeppy | you may have told it not to. |
| 18:48.34 | foxlit | cog|work: yes, except those would be sequential |
| 18:49.04 | Jamash | Options -> Advanced -> Update |
| 18:49.16 | foxlit | My problem is that I can't do id BETWEEN myId -1 AND myId + 1 because the ids are not necessarily one apart. |
| 18:49.19 | alestane | It has "Automatically check for updates to: V Firefox" checked off. |
| 18:49.26 | alestane | Eh, there's always the manual override. |
| 18:50.38 | Jamash | when Firefox is several versions out of date it's often faster to download the installer than to use the auto-updater |
| 18:50.51 | Jamash | because the auto updater is kind of dumb |
| 18:50.59 | Legorol | foxlit: add two extra entries in each row, which are the indices of the preceding and following rows |
| 18:51.11 | cog|work | foxlit: gotcha... i read "sequential" as "ordered" not "consecutive" |
| 18:51.14 | Legorol | and if it's a problem to have it in the table itself, have a second table with that data |
| 18:51.40 | Jamash | lolsql |
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| 18:52.09 | foxlit | Legorol: at that point, I'd still have to do two queries |
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| 18:52.21 | Legorol | idd |
| 18:52.51 | Legorol | i am an SQL noob, but maybe there exists some query magic along the lines of: where next row id = myID + 1 |
| 18:53.24 | durcyn | not in a single query |
| 18:53.29 | Cide | foxlit, can't you add a secondary, sequential primary key? |
| 18:53.51 | Legorol | my guess is he has to be able to delete rows without renumbering |
| 18:54.10 | mikma | i like the current way the game handles the wanted / "kill this mob" quests |
| 18:54.53 | Lopeppeppy | wanted posters? |
| 18:55.00 | foxlit | Cide: I could; but then I'd have to use the new keys as primary |
| 18:55.06 | Cide | why? |
| 18:55.13 | Cide | does auto_increment have to be primary? |
| 18:55.17 | Cide | (mysql syntax) |
| 18:56.05 | foxlit | Cide: I think it does, but that's a secondary concern. |
| 18:56.08 | Morkesh | i may be wrong but i remember yes Cide |
| 18:56.17 | Morkesh | been 2+ years since i fumbled around with it |
| 18:57.10 | foxlit | I mean that I'd have to use the new indices as part of URLs, or I'd have to do a lookup to find the new key value |
| 18:57.26 | Cide | ah yes, you're right |
| 18:58.06 | Cide | unless it's doable with some HAVING magic |
| 18:58.25 | Cide | well no |
| 18:58.42 | Cide | it's not doable |
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| 19:01.15 | Fisker | Cide |
| 19:01.18 | Fisker | i maded you a fart |
| 19:01.23 | Cide | nope |
| 19:01.27 | Fisker | i did |
| 19:02.06 | Cide | doubt it |
| 19:02.35 | Fisker | HNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNG *fart' |
| 19:04.08 | Cide | oshi |
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| 19:08.15 | mikma | Sexy! http://mikma.eu/wow/cata/WoWScrnShot_071910_152544.jpg |
| 19:08.21 | Satisfyme | Hi all |
| 19:08.36 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/wow/cata/WoWScrnShot_071910_155633.jpg <- click here to complete quest <3 |
| 19:09.11 | Lunessa | Yeah, the new quest features are nice. |
| 19:09.20 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/wow/cata/WoWScrnShot_071910_215439.jpg |
| 19:09.44 | mikma | right, talent-tree graphics did change |
| 19:10.15 | Lunessa | mikma: You're going to spend a lot of time there. Also, I suggest turning off Vertical Sync in video options for the underwater zones. |
| 19:10.55 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/wow/cata/WoWScrnShot_071910_215439.jpg old one |
| 19:10.57 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/wow/cata/WoWScrnShot_072310_221018.jpg new one |
| 19:11.14 | mikma | lunessa: i'm currently at the last(?) area of this zone |
| 19:11.34 | Lunessa | mikma: there's a LOT in that area. |
| 19:11.45 | Lunessa | I spent most of a Saturday there. |
| 19:11.48 | mikma | omg lal |
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| 19:12.16 | Lunessa | There's a lot of stuff to explore and see. :) |
| 19:12.55 | alestane | I'm thinking I'll take my warlock there. |
| 19:13.09 | nicoli_s | man the dns in our office is fubared |
| 19:13.11 | alestane | <squee>They finally implemented Hand of Gul'dan!</squee> |
| 19:13.12 | Lunessa | needs more hours. |
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| 19:13.28 | Lunessa | alestane: What level are you in le beta? |
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| 19:13.47 | alestane | Lock is 80...haven't done anything but look at talents. |
| 19:13.53 | Lunessa | is considering some dual-lock mayhem |
| 19:13.55 | Jamash | anyone else think that firefox "personas" are stupid and ugly? |
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| 19:14.16 | alestane | Oddly, Lunessa, the best combos I've ever played in have been 'lock-pally. |
| 19:14.27 | Lopeppeppy | Very stupid, jamash. |
| 19:14.36 | Jamash | 'lock-priest is awesome |
| 19:14.36 | Lopeppeppy | Paladins kick hiney. Oh yeah. |
| 19:14.41 | Lunessa | I've copied over three shaman, a lock and started some lowbies. |
| 19:15.19 | Jamash | three shaman? |
| 19:15.24 | Lunessa | I just don't have the number of hours I need to see everything. |
| 19:15.46 | mikma | leveling with blood spec = fun |
| 19:15.52 | alestane | How do you spec your 'locks, Lunessa? |
| 19:16.37 | Lunessa | alestane: I dual-spec'ed for beta. One Demonology, one Destruction. My heart belongs to Demonology though. |
| 19:16.46 | alestane | Same, really. |
| 19:16.53 | Jamash | whenever you spec destruction, god kills a baby murloc |
| 19:17.04 | alestane | I've never been able to quit it no matter how hard they nerf and I'm overjoyed to see it getting a little love again. |
| 19:17.23 | Jamash | I've never been able to see destro as anything but he "why didn't you roll a mage?" spec |
| 19:17.27 | alestane | Yeah, I usually favor Afflication as a the other part of my spec. |
| 19:17.30 | Lunessa | Affliction bores me. |
| 19:17.52 | Jamash | <3 affliction |
| 19:17.58 | alestane | Destruction should also be a little less "ZOMG THE DPS IT HURTS MY EYES" in this one. |
| 19:18.15 | Lunessa | two words: GREEN FIRE |
| 19:18.18 | Lunessa | bitches |
| 19:18.25 | Jamash | damn you and you gren fire |
| 19:18.33 | alestane | And affliction is also getting interesting toys...did you see the talent they're adding that picks your dots up off the target, and then drops them back on the next thing you cast it on? |
| 19:18.34 | Jamash | s/you gren/your green/ |
| 19:18.43 | Jamash | yes, yes I did |
| 19:18.50 | Lunessa | alestane: that's... hot. |
| 19:19.51 | Jamash | hot with a capital hot |
| 19:19.52 | alestane | And the uber-dots/uber-hots spirit bonding effect. |
| 19:20.42 | alestane | <3 buddy-system powers. |
| 19:21.07 | durcyn | i wonder if the haste buff can be cast on demons |
| 19:22.02 | durcyn | also, predicting hilarity with the name. "DI ME, NO I MEAN DARK INTENT YOU RETARDED PALADIN" etc |
| 19:22.09 | nicoli_s | lol i love how in the new patch they added back the worgen head, but messed up the main, and fucked the textures on the head |
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| 19:23.16 | Jamash | I found that if I swapped forms and back my head textures got fixed |
| 19:24.01 | nicoli_s | sweet that worked |
| 19:24.12 | cog|work | poor paul simon... they took his kodachrome |
| 19:24.25 | cog|work | http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/07/23/1435230/Last-Roll-of-Kodachrome-Processed |
| 19:25.06 | Fisker | slaps cog|work around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:25.14 | Jamash | felguard needs a new axe imo |
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| 19:28.30 | mikma | oh how i love when this minion decides to get permanent while in blood spec :D |
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| 19:34.45 | Fisker | mikma |
| 19:34.52 | Fisker | why won't those damn jerks send me my copy of SC2? |
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| 19:36.35 | mikma | fisker: they know who you are and that you don't deserve it. |
| 19:36.36 | Lopeppeppy | Hatin' never gets you anything. |
| 19:37.17 | mikma | the thing i don't understand is why are you now whining about the SC2 since you got the beta key for cata, which you whined for months |
| 19:37.18 | cog|work | well, except maybe overactive adrenal glands... |
| 19:37.33 | cog|work | mikma: you don't understand that? |
| 19:37.39 | cog|work | it's Fisker ... |
| 19:37.45 | Fisker | I CAN'T BETA UNTIL THEY FIX THE FIRELORD QUEST |
| 19:37.47 | Fisker | >:3 |
| 19:38.00 | mikma | if you men that fisker means he's not happy abot anything, then i hear ya cog|work |
| 19:38.20 | mikma | umm, what? |
| 19:38.24 | mikma | you can't why? |
| 19:38.28 | alestane | Fisker must rage. |
| 19:38.36 | Fisker | yeah alestane |
| 19:38.40 | Fisker | it's in my blood |
| 19:38.54 | Fisker | But other than that SC2 Retail > Cataclysm Beta rly |
| 19:39.17 | mikma | vote based knockout would be nice. then we could vote that do we want fisker to be kicked to cool of for 5 minutes |
| 19:39.52 | Fisker | QQ or? |
| 19:40.02 | Jamash | so, soulstone has a 15 min duration and 30 min cooldown? |
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| 19:40.39 | mikma | OH MY FREAKING GOD! this quest is BRILLIANT! |
| 19:40.46 | mikma | i laughed so hard :D |
| 19:40.52 | Fisker | what quest? |
| 19:41.23 | mikma | "Put it on" |
| 19:41.41 | Jamash | where is this quest? |
| 19:41.43 | Fisker | :o |
| 19:41.48 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/wow/cata/WoWScrnShot_072310_224018.jpg |
| 19:41.52 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/wow/cata/WoWScrnShot_072310_224023.jpg |
| 19:42.11 | nevcairiel | hahaha yeah |
| 19:42.15 | nevcairiel | that quest was so awesome |
| 19:42.31 | Jamash | haw |
| 19:42.43 | augustl | gief working beta code thing :S |
| 19:42.52 | Fisker | I think "The bears up there" is an UNBEARABLE quest |
| 19:42.55 | Fisker | geddit? |
| 19:43.02 | mikma | haha, you can even do it again |
| 19:43.09 | mikma | if you don't return the quest :D |
| 19:43.41 | cloudwolf | augustl the codes are valid codes |
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| 19:43.47 | cloudwolf | battle.net is borked atm tho |
| 19:43.51 | Fisker | how? |
| 19:43.53 | augustl | cloudwolf: ah yeah, right :) |
| 19:44.49 | mikma | meh, borked how? |
| 19:44.54 | mikma | not letting you login? ;) |
| 19:44.54 | Jamash | flying eye of kilrogg should be baseline imo |
| 19:45.04 | cloudwolf | Mikma not accpeting beta codes as a valid game code |
| 19:45.11 | mikma | nyah! |
| 19:45.21 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/nokia/Family_Guy_-_Nyah.mp3 |
| 19:45.26 | Fisker | oh |
| 19:45.33 | augustl | mikma: the latest batch of codes aren't being accepted on battle.net |
| 19:45.34 | Maldivia | mikma: done Throne of the Tides instance yet ? |
| 19:45.57 | Lopeppeppy | been borked since Wednesday, silly serverthing. |
| 19:46.01 | mikma | maldivia: nope |
| 19:46.17 | Maldivia | mikma: ok, I'm going to spoin you then... the brain slug is a boss there :P |
| 19:46.20 | cloudwolf | Mikma now battle net won't let me log in :D |
| 19:46.23 | cloudwolf | "login failed" |
| 19:46.25 | cloudwolf | woooo |
| 19:46.31 | mikma | cloudwolf: :I |
| 19:46.42 | cloudwolf | and yes i typed everything correctly |
| 19:46.47 | mikma | cloudwolf: is this for beta? |
| 19:46.57 | mikma | cloudwolf: and you have the infamous realmlist fix? |
| 19:46.58 | cloudwolf | us.battle.net/ login failed |
| 19:47.04 | cloudwolf | mikma i dont even have the client |
| 19:47.21 | augustl | cloudwolf: for how long? |
| 19:47.26 | cloudwolf | because it doesn't except my code as valid and i can't now login to the online battlenet siteXD |
| 19:47.34 | augustl | if since recently, that's a sing that they're working on it at least |
| 19:47.55 | cloudwolf | hmm maybe an hour or two ago was the last time i tried |
| 19:48.00 | cloudwolf | and was able to login successfully |
| 19:48.33 | cloudwolf | mikma how much do you pay per month on that website? |
| 19:48.45 | mikma | cloudwolf: nothing |
| 19:48.49 | Maldivia | cloudwolf: you need the installer? |
| 19:49.09 | cloudwolf | Maldivia I can wait till my code works legitamately |
| 19:49.34 | Lunessa | http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE66M3R320100723 |
| 19:49.34 | NightHawkTheSane | eh |
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| 19:49.41 | Lunessa | Daniel Schor died. |
| 19:49.44 | NightHawkTheSane | no harm in getting the installer now and patching up ahead of time |
| 19:49.49 | NightHawkTheSane | there's a LOT of patching to do |
| 19:49.52 | cloudwolf | mikma how do you pay nothing? isp provided? |
| 19:50.02 | Maldivia | NHTS: only 2 patches actually |
| 19:50.04 | Fisker | OMG COPYVIO NHTS |
| 19:50.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Maldivia: oh, did they combine them? |
| 19:50.21 | mikma | cloudwolf: nothing is pretty simple to pay. you give nothing to nobody |
| 19:50.22 | Maldivia | NHTS: what do you think the 1.4 gig patch was :P |
| 19:50.25 | Fisker | Maldivia frequency of patches does not determine the amount of patching |
| 19:50.26 | Fisker | bam |
| 19:50.29 | Fisker | B A M |
| 19:50.33 | kd3 | yuck |
| 19:50.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Maldivia: blizzard intentionally shitting up my internet connection? :P |
| 19:50.38 | kd3 | 100F outside |
| 19:50.38 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 19:50.41 | cloudwolf | Well lol i want ot know how you pay nothing! |
| 19:50.45 | Fisker | datamine the SC2 0day patch |
| 19:50.50 | kd3 | nope |
| 19:50.56 | Fisker | You really should |
| 19:51.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: :( |
| 19:51.34 | Fisker | who is he anyway? |
| 19:51.39 | Lunessa | NHTS: Didn't agree with him often, but he was always thought-provoking. |
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| 19:51.49 | Lunessa | Fisker: Long time journalist. |
| 19:52.11 | mikma | cloudwolf: my friend owns the server |
| 19:52.34 | cloudwolf | lol lucky |
| 19:52.49 | cloudwolf | how much storage you got on that thing? XD |
| 19:52.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: *nod* |
| 19:53.32 | mikma | apparently we have used 160gb and we have 22gb left |
| 19:54.36 | cloudwolf | Wow.... thats a lot of storage |
| 19:54.54 | NightHawkTheSane | not.. THAT much |
| 19:55.04 | mikma | yeah, not that much |
| 19:55.10 | mikma | but enough for server |
| 19:55.12 | cloudwolf | NightHawkTheSane considering mikma isn't paying a dime... thats plenty |
| 19:55.34 | cloudwolf | If i was to try and get a website i would be paying a lot for maybe 10gb of space... |
| 19:56.52 | NightHawkTheSane | i guess it depends on what you mean by paying a lot |
| 19:57.02 | Mortur | dreamhost is having a deal right now - unlimited traffice and storage for $9 a month... not really importiant, but thought i would toss that out. |
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| 19:58.15 | Fisker | Unlimited being what you can get for $9 |
| 19:58.53 | Mortur | as in - thats your monthly fee and they dont care how much you use. |
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| 19:59.08 | Fisker | I can prove you wrong in about 30 days Mortur |
| 19:59.09 | Fisker | if not less |
| 19:59.14 | Fisker | unless it's metered of course |
| 19:59.21 | Fisker | err |
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| 19:59.24 | Mortur | http://www.dreamhost.com/unlimited.html |
| 19:59.28 | Fisker | not metered but bandwitdh restricted |
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| 20:02.09 | Lunessa | And I suspect the don't want you hosting prono or 'warez' |
| 20:02.17 | Ressy | they don't. |
| 20:02.39 | nevcairiel | Fisker: i finished the firelord, hooray :p |
| 20:02.40 | Ressy | "This whole page is just to announce to the <.1% of people who want to try and run free porn affiliate sites or anime video trading forums or host pirated rips of The Dark Knight on DreamHost that we're not having any." |
| 20:02.42 | NightHawkTheSane | listens to the it guys talk about about running phishing schemes on the office.. because so many people are dumb enough to fall for them |
| 20:02.50 | Jamash | unlimited plus fifty gee bee! |
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| 20:06.30 | Lunessa | Actually, that reminds me... time to renew on domain registrations... |
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| 20:10.42 | malreth | I... LIVE... |
| 20:11.04 | nevcairiel | man the HP increase on cataclysm mobs really makes them alot more fun |
| 20:11.09 | nevcairiel | using my dots is actually useful now |
| 20:12.42 | Jamash | save the murlocs! |
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| 20:13.47 | Lopeppeppy | For breakfast maybe, Jamash. |
| 20:13.57 | Jamash | D: |
| 20:14.17 | Jamash | there's some murloc quests near the dark portal |
| 20:15.13 | Lunessa | sup, brother malreth ? |
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| 20:15.45 | malreth | i'm gettin' by |
| 20:16.02 | Lunessa | rocking. |
| 20:16.22 | malreth | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pdk2cJpSXLg <-- this video is true! |
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| 20:18.20 | Lunessa | "Without the peer pressure of nearby co-workers and boss-types, the internet is a constant, beguiling temptation, like one of the Sirens of Greek myth if you could embed Flash in her." http://www.wired.com/underwire/2010/07/alt-text-hef-at-work/ |
| 20:19.34 | Lunessa | malreth: so true. /sadpanda |
| 20:20.03 | malreth | the 10 seconds it takes to pick up the call had me rolling |
| 20:20.30 | Adys | purl: mmoquotes is <reply>http://www.teomyr.eu/mmo-champion/irc-quotes |
| 20:20.30 | purl | okay, Adys |
| 20:21.03 | Jamash | MUST TAME |
| 20:21.22 | mikma | jamash: wat |
| 20:21.27 | Jamash | what have you done to me blizzard |
| 20:21.31 | Jamash | 20 stable slots! |
| 20:21.36 | Jamash | MUST TAME MOAR |
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| 20:22.52 | malreth | Jamash: gotta catch 'em all |
| 20:22.56 | Lunessa | malreth: You should have seen me rapidly mashing the "END CALL" button when I accidentally dialed a wrong number. /dies |
| 20:22.57 | Jamash | pika pika |
| 20:25.34 | Lopeppeppy | who did you call, Lunessa? *grin* |
| 20:25.40 | Jamash | wtb bigger pet action bar |
| 20:26.14 | malreth | i feel that way whenever i accidentally call my wife |
| 20:26.30 | Lunessa | I accidentally called some unknown number that's been calling me for like a month. |
| 20:26.30 | malreth | and i'm all... "Shit! Shit! Shit! Now she'll know I'm not busy right now." |
| 20:26.42 | malreth | and then i'll have to talk about stuff like feelings or some shit |
| 20:26.49 | malreth | or make plans for dinner |
| 20:27.21 | malreth | and i just wanna say, "Good Lord, woman! Look in the pantry! We got shit tons of popcorn." |
| 20:27.31 | malreth | but apparently that doesn't count as "dinner" |
| 20:28.06 | Jamash | dang, I should have bought a cenarion hippogryph when stuff was free |
| 20:28.13 | Ressy | ew. popcorn |
| 20:28.27 | Kraps | Lunessa: a woman called my cellphone twice, she called me a liar when i told her both times that she had the wrong number :( |
| 20:28.31 | Lunessa | malreth: seriously. popcorn, beer, porn. What more did you need? |
| 20:29.20 | Lopeppeppy | A wife willing to eat/drink/watch only that? |
| 20:29.27 | Lunessa | Kraps: I had a stint where a woman in Ohio called me 20 times a day and INSISTED that I had her boyfriend's phone. Her English was bad, and my Spanish wasn't up to dealing with her. |
| 20:32.10 | cog|work | Kraps: we had a roommate once who was a fairly typical late teens/early 20s "chick". One day a hysterical woman called furious wondering what kind of "place" we were "running" here. Turns out the woman's son had been cheating on his fiance with our roommate, and the mom thought he had been calling some sex chat or brothel number :\ |
| 20:32.50 | cog|work | She wouldn't believe me the 12 or so times I told her that it was a home and she was harrassing ordinary people. |
| 20:34.05 | malreth | some people just want to believe whatever they want to despite all facts to the contrary. that's why we still have Fox News |
| 20:34.31 | cog|work | s/Fox/TV/ imo |
| 20:34.47 | Gnarfoz | s/TV/TV, media in general, and religion/ |
| 20:34.57 | cog|work | s/religion/dogma/ |
| 20:35.02 | cog|work | http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2010/07/11/how_facts_backfire/ |
| 20:35.03 | Gnarfoz | good movie |
| 20:35.47 | cog|work | if you use "dogma" instead of "religion" it pre-empts the idiots who will try to claim stalin and hitler were *motivated* by atheism |
| 20:36.00 | Gnarfoz | http://gothamist.com/2010/07/22/darth_vader_robs_bank_photos_oh_yes.php |
| 20:36.06 | foxlit | gr, safari |
| 20:36.42 | foxlit | What MIME type corresponds roughy to "Here are some bits, save them kindly under the filename I said, not trying to sniff out what they are and appending a suffix" |
| 20:37.18 | cog|work | something octet-stream? |
| 20:37.21 | cbreak | I don't think there's such a type |
| 20:37.30 | cog|work | application/octet-stream |
| 20:37.32 | cbreak | application/octet-stream is the most unspecific type |
| 20:37.43 | cbreak | but browsers can do with it what ever they want |
| 20:38.29 | cog|work | ^ |
| 20:40.05 | mikma | lol, 10k+ crit with rune strike <3 |
| 20:42.25 | foxlit | Meh, it sniffed application/octet-stream, but not text/junk |
| 20:45.03 | cloudwolf | Well i can log back into battle net but still can't redeem my beta key D: and we play the wait longer game |
| 20:45.16 | Lunessa | New Tron:Legacy trailer today. DELICIOUS |
| 20:46.47 | cbreak | there's a new one? |
| 20:46.52 | malreth | link please? |
| 20:48.46 | Lunessa | http://www.wired.com/underwire/2010/07/tron-legacy-comic-con/ |
| 20:48.57 | alestane | Lunessa: http://www.threepanelsoul.com/view.php?date=2010-03-22 |
| 20:49.34 | Lunessa | alestane: I'm lulzing |
| 20:51.28 | malreth | if I were a woman, I'd embrace Jeff Bridges and accept his member into my vagina |
| 20:51.36 | Jamash | tmi |
| 20:51.48 | Jamash | but tron legacy yessssssss |
| 20:51.52 | alestane | http://textsfromlastnight.com/Text-Replies-18939.html I fear for the poor critter. |
| 20:51.59 | Lunessa | malreth: I suspect the real women in your life would murder you for your place in line. |
| 20:57.12 | malreth | my wife would probably be annoyed |
| 20:57.29 | malreth | "What am I supposed to do with *THAT*!?" |
| 20:57.53 | Lunessa | malreth: She'd just stick you full of needles. |
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| 20:59.14 | nicoli_s | its so funny how many times ive seen my old roomate do the same deal as the guy getting the hedgehog |
| 20:59.33 | nicoli_s | but seriously, 50-60 bucks for a real life sonic? thats a deal |
| 21:00.03 | Lunessa | Hedgehogs make excellent pets, really. |
| 21:00.47 | nicoli_s | id love one i i wasnt afraid my kitties would eat it |
| 21:00.49 | dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:01.02 | dagmar | All the hedgehogs I've seen seemed to have one mood: "cross" |
| 21:01.51 | Dementati | Not "stingy"? |
| 21:02.09 | cog|work | Oh joy... they're going to be filiming an episode of Ghost Hunters in my area... |
| 21:02.33 | dagmar | cog: I would be absolutely ecstatic |
| 21:02.38 | dagmar | Those guys are *idiots* |
| 21:02.40 | cog|work | "This makes me so happy!!! I've been saying that we've needed a formal investigation for years!!! I can't wait to see if they can get evidence of any of the ghosts we've all heard so much of growing up!!! Where the footsteps on the stage come from, or see the little boy who tore up the seats in the balcony, or the girl in the bathroom who used to move Boston's cleaning supplies when he left the room! I'm effing stoked!" |
| 21:03.00 | dagmar | Now you just need to dig out some copper wire and start making antennas |
| 21:03.26 | cog|work | my response: Before anything can be claimed to be evidence of ghosts, we have to establish that ghosts in fact exist AND that they indeed create the kinds of evidence ghost hunters look for. Going around spooky buildings with science-y looking equipment and getting scared over unexplained noises does not an investigation make.. |
| 21:03.42 | dagmar | C'mon |
| 21:03.52 | dagmar | If you really tried, I bet you could get one of them to pee themselves. |
| 21:04.12 | Arrowmaster | you know its 95F in here right now but it doesnt feel like it |
| 21:04.14 | cog|work | i should get my skeptic group together to go hoax them |
| 21:04.16 | Dashkal | cog|work: O.o How does that work? You can't claim something is evidence of ghosts until you've proven that ghosts exist? Unsolvable loop there. |
| 21:04.35 | cog|work | Dashkal: it's a bit more subtle than that |
| 21:04.42 | dagmar | cog: You absolutely should. :) |
| 21:05.06 | cog|work | although i couldn't elaborate in the short space ;) |
| 21:05.12 | Dashkal | heh, fair enough |
| 21:05.30 | Dashkal | I won't argue for a moment that those sciency shows mean a damn thing, mind you. |
| 21:05.32 | dagmar | It's so seldom one can be so karmically in the clear for engaging in acts of mental cruelty to strangers |
| 21:05.59 | cog|work | i don't know if i'd call it seldom... |
| 21:06.18 | dagmar | I wasn't kidding about trying to make someone cry |
| 21:06.43 | dagmar | Remember, one of those guys bolted from the site and never came back |
| 21:06.58 | cog|work | CONSEQUENCES WILL NEVER BE THE SAME! |
| 21:07.59 | Dashkal | sweet, Droid X rooted |
| 21:08.06 | Dashkal | NOW I want one |
| 21:08.08 | Lunessa | *sigh* new employee decided he should just move his computer equipment himself. Now he has no network connection. Duh. We lock ports to MACs and you plugged it into the wrong one. Now your port and your mac are blacklisted. Sucks to be you dumbass. |
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| 21:08.13 | dagmar | cog: Keep in mind how little they know about what their gear does |
| 21:08.14 | Fisker | Kalroth |
| 21:08.18 | Fisker | i will find Antiarc |
| 21:08.21 | Fisker | and you will assist me |
| 21:08.51 | dagmar | cog: Do you know someone with a laser spreader? Use IR. Invisible demon writing on the walls! You, many yards away |
| 21:08.51 | foxlit | http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml/12213/QuestLogFrame.lua#879 << I have a toy |
| 21:08.53 | Kalroth | Lets venture to Mordor before Antiarc, please |
| 21:08.58 | Fisker | naw |
| 21:09.04 | Fisker | i must find Antiarc before we venture to mordor |
| 21:09.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: did anyone tell him that was the case? |
| 21:09.47 | Lunessa | NHTS: It's covered in orientation. |
| 21:09.54 | NightHawkTheSane | oh, well then he's an idiot. :P |
| 21:09.58 | Kraps | cog|work: you dun wrong |
| 21:10.10 | Lunessa | Well, his name is (and I'm not making this up) Bubba Jones. |
| 21:10.12 | Fisker | hey lua_bot |
| 21:10.19 | NightHawkTheSane | but i know some places don't do that, and some places do it differently, so if no one said anything |
| 21:10.20 | Fisker | even though i meant hey Lunessa |
| 21:11.08 | Kraps | Fisker: are you planning to walk into mordor? |
| 21:11.28 | Kraps | cuz that will fail |
| 21:11.57 | Fisker | maybe it will |
| 21:12.03 | Fisker | but atleast i tried |
| 21:12.07 | Lunessa | I would TankCat into Mordor, for the lulz. |
| 21:12.58 | Kraps | ^? |
| 21:13.32 | Fisker | 73 hours btw |
| 21:13.45 | Lunessa | http://www.roflcat.com/One-Does-Not-Simply-Tank-Cat-Into-Mordor.php |
| 21:14.31 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:15.47 | malreth | http://i.imgur.com/H8lf3.jpg |
| 21:16.04 | augustl | haha |
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| 21:21.56 | cloudwolf | Blizzard i am disapoint. |
| 21:22.08 | cloudwolf | I will laugh when sc2 keys don't work |
| 21:22.33 | nevcairiel | it probably was some update for the sc2 launch that broke the beta keys =p |
| 21:23.43 | augustl | off topic tiem. What windows programs should I use to manage a music library of flac files? Rip CDs, tag, encode parts of library to ogg or mp3, etc. |
| 21:24.47 | MoonWitch | just me or everyone having issues with actionbars? |
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| 21:26.21 | Maldivia | MoonWitch: what kind of issues? |
| 21:27.46 | MoonWitch | I can't switch specs nor switch actionbars |
| 21:27.53 | MoonWitch | gives me a lua error |
| 21:28.16 | MoonWitch | lemme pastey it |
| 21:28.49 | MoonWitch | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/138867 |
| 21:29.04 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2010/07/new_tron_legacy_trailer_looks.php |
| 21:29.16 | MoonWitch | basically, the AB doesn't change on spec change, nor when I manually try it |
| 21:29.44 | Maldivia | haven't seen that issue myself, tried enabling/disabling some of the bonus bars, considering it's what the erroe is complaning about |
| 21:31.05 | MoonWitch | tried that too, but on all (and none and some) same error |
| 21:31.40 | MoonWitch | meh, I'll delete the old AddOns from blizz - let them be recreated |
| 21:32.06 | nevcairiel | the folders just contain the signature |
| 21:32.12 | nevcairiel | that wont do a thing |
| 21:32.18 | MoonWitch | yeah I know, but it's the only thing I can think off |
| 21:32.20 | MoonWitch | :( |
| 21:32.28 | mikma | reset your chat lol |
| 21:32.56 | mikma | my combatlog was missing couple of times, reset helped |
| 21:32.58 | Kraps | http://graphjam.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/4570786f-791b-4373-84ce-5c01db1f9625.png |
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| 21:34.31 | Maldivia | Kraps: well, I never "heped" anyone, so guess it's cats for me as well :P |
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| 21:34.54 | Kraps | huh i just noticed that |
| 21:35.22 | augustl | oh the pain of having a beta key I cannot use |
| 21:35.59 | Kraps | http://graphjam.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/4caa616a-a4b4-4490-b50e-a3d1cc89d192.png |
| 21:38.12 | MoonWitch | mikma: didn't sort it either |
| 21:38.15 | MoonWitch | oh well |
| 21:38.58 | Lunessa | MoonWitch: Live or Beta. |
| 21:39.02 | MoonWitch | beta |
| 21:39.20 | Lunessa | When you switch from Spec 1 to spec 2, the bars don't change at all? |
| 21:39.31 | MoonWitch | nope, and thats when I get said error |
| 21:39.57 | Lunessa | Odd, because it was working for me yesterday. |
| 21:40.45 | Maldivia | haven't had any issues with it either |
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| 21:40.59 | MoonWitch | yesterday was ok too |
| 21:41.09 | MoonWitch | it's with the slight patch from today |
| 21:41.24 | Lunessa | hasn't patched today. |
| 21:41.47 | Maldivia | what clight patch today? |
| 21:41.52 | Maldivia | slight* |
| 21:42.34 | MoonWitch | you playing EU or US? |
| 21:42.47 | Maldivia | there was a patch yesterday, build 12604 |
| 21:42.59 | MoonWitch | musta been that one then :( |
| 21:43.00 | Maldivia | ~110 mb |
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| 21:43.12 | MoonWitch | yeah sounds right, I got that one today |
| 21:43.22 | MoonWitch | Message: Interface\FrameXML\UIPanelTemplates.lua:379: attempt to perform arithmetic on field 'cursorOffset' (a nil value) |
| 21:43.35 | nevcairiel | i switched specs today already, everything is just fine |
| 21:43.46 | nevcairiel | also i'm a druid, i would notice when my bars stop switching :d |
| 21:43.47 | MoonWitch | damn |
| 21:43.56 | MoonWitch | lemme try on the druid |
| 21:44.02 | MoonWitch | so far mage and shammy have it |
| 21:45.51 | Maldivia | try disabling all the extra bars, log out, log back in, then enable them again, see if that works |
| 21:46.01 | nevcairiel | i only have one extra bar active, fwiw |
| 21:46.05 | nevcairiel | bottom right |
| 21:47.11 | Maldivia | well, speaking of beta UI, anyone noticed the nameplates acting weird with their positioning |
| 21:47.58 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 21:48.05 | nevcairiel | non-overlap is broken, too |
| 21:48.46 | Maldivia | was making me crazy earlier in TotT |
| 21:48.48 | Lunessa | I'm wondering if I should copy of the mage, priest or druid. |
| 21:48.56 | Mirrormn | should I buy a GTX 460 from tigerdirect for $170? |
| 21:48.59 | Lunessa | s/ of/over |
| 21:49.28 | Maldivia | Lunessa: option 4: all of the above :P |
| 21:49.52 | Lunessa | Maldivia: I'm sort of copies. I have - I think - 1 left. |
| 21:50.14 | Lunessa | And I can't stype, /short/sort |
| 21:50.15 | nevcairiel | wonder where my premade shaman ended up that i tried to copy |
| 21:51.58 | nicoli_s | man friday at the curse office is funny |
| 21:52.13 | nicoli_s | some people need to learn to hold their liquor better :P |
| 21:52.19 | Dashkal | beer pong? |
| 21:53.17 | MoonWitch | nevcairiel, Lunessa and Maldivia: issue doesn't appear on my druid |
| 21:53.44 | Lunessa | MoonWitch: Bug Report. :) |
| 21:53.49 | cog|work | http://www.asylum.com/2010/07/22/its-the-worlds-strongest-most-expensive-beer-inside-a-squi/ |
| 21:54.38 | MoonWitch | seems that way yes :P |
| 21:54.47 | MoonWitch | Oh yes nevcairiel : Do you play boomkin? |
| 21:55.59 | MoonWitch | heck : who plays boomkin on beta here? |
| 21:57.24 | nevcairiel | i do, yea |
| 21:57.34 | MoonWitch | what's your rotation? |
| 21:57.55 | nevcairiel | apply debuffs, starsurge, throw whatever feels like fun |
| 21:57.57 | MoonWitch | I made copies of the chars I am leveling on live .. druid is one |
| 21:58.04 | MoonWitch | cool beans |
| 21:58.05 | MoonWitch | :P |
| 22:02.12 | malreth | Enjoy: http://wonderfl.net/c/tNGi/fullscreen |
| 22:02.15 | NightHawkTheSane | cog|work: saw that yesterday, kinda awesome |
| 22:04.47 | augustl | download of http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info10905-EveryQuest.html is broken |
| 22:05.07 | augustl | nvm all downloads on wowi are broken ;) |
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| 22:11.36 | cog|work | dolby: ^^ |
| 22:11.54 | A-KO | it's going to be hot as shit tomorrow |
| 22:11.55 | A-KO | already hot today |
| 22:11.56 | A-KO | ... |
| 22:12.04 | A-KO | 37C right now, feels like 41C with humidity... |
| 22:12.09 | A-KO | tomorrow's gonna be 40C and feel like 43C... |
| 22:12.14 | A-KO | with humidity |
| 22:13.30 | dolby | should be fixed |
| 22:19.16 | Gnarfoz | dolby fixed the weather, A-KO |
| 22:19.18 | Gnarfoz | it'll be fine |
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| 22:32.23 | Lunessa | station |
| 22:32.24 | Maldivia | lol - if anyone watches white collar: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je-xY7x42R4 |
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| 22:34.18 | Gnarfoz | Lunessa: station |
| 22:34.26 | Gnarfoz | also, ahhhhhhhh |
| 22:34.47 | Lunessa | :P |
| 22:35.37 | Dashkal | "For the first month of Ricardo and Felicityâs affair, they greeted one another at every stolen rendezvous with a kiss â a lengthy, ravenous kiss, Ricardo lapping and sucking at Felicityâs mouth as if she were a giant cage-mounted water bottle and he were the worldâs thirstiest gerbil." |
| 22:35.43 | Dashkal | O.o |
| 22:36.00 | Gnarfoz | who the fuck is either of them |
| 22:36.04 | Dashkal | Context: http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/06/poseur-alert.html |
| 22:36.04 | Lunessa | o.0 |
| 22:36.41 | cloudwolf | >http://gothamist.com/2010/07/22/darth_vader_robs_bank_photos_oh_yes.php |
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| 22:38.33 | Maldivia | "It was a dark and stormy night..." |
| 22:39.28 | cloudwolf | "in the middle of washington state so it was actually an average night." |
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| 22:49.01 | ScytheBlade1 | so, who here has a bby that is synched with a BES server backed by exchange? |
| 22:49.09 | ScytheBlade1 | I can't figure out how to sync any folders aside from my inbox :/ |
| 22:49.20 | Dashkal | Bleh, authenticators on the forums are here to stay: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26262926741&sid=1 |
| 22:49.35 | Lunessa | SBO, I have one, but I hardly use it, and I only sync my Inbox. |
| 22:49.55 | ScytheBlade1 | any idea how to sync a folder other than the inbox? |
| 22:50.06 | ScytheBlade1 | my rules are setup in such a way that if it hits my inbox, my rules have failed me |
| 22:50.41 | ScytheBlade1 | so this is less than useful |
| 22:50.51 | NeoTron | I like how they couldn't help but make jokes in the articles about that robbery |
| 22:51.01 | ScytheBlade1 | I can navigate to the other folders, but they are seen as empty |
| 22:52.10 | zenzelezz | These are not the folders you are looking for. |
| 22:52.15 | Maldivia | Dashkal: didn't I read somewhere, that the forums are the main attack for getting account passwords, because they don't throttle login attempts, making bruteforce checking possible |
| 22:52.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Maldivia: that is likely $SomeGuy's theory on why he got hacked, because they absolutely throttle login attempts |
| 22:53.59 | Jamash | SBO: don't use exchange? |
| 22:54.04 | Maldivia | SB1: well, just read it, haven't tried it myself... I know my password :P |
| 22:54.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Jamash: thanks for the non-answer? |
| 22:54.14 | Jamash | SBO: You're welcome |
| 22:56.32 | Maldivia | SB1: and I can tell you, the 2468th digit of Pi is part of it... |
| 22:56.39 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
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| 23:06.38 | ScytheBlade1 | got it |
| 23:06.42 | ScytheBlade1 | stupid folder redirection |
| 23:11.40 | foxlit | http://wow.go-hero.net/framexml/12213/Blizzard_BarbershopUI/Blizzard_BarberShopUI.toc#3 << never noticed those descriptions. |
| 23:12.14 | cloudwolf | lol |
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| 23:15.29 | cloudwolf | does the guildui have a neat note like that |
| 23:16.17 | foxlit | I don't have the beta ui extracted (or uploaded); and it's not an addon on live |
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| 23:17.24 | cloudwolf | that stinsk heh |
| 23:22.53 | bleeter | anyone used Redmine project manager? |
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| 23:29.06 | *** topic/#wowuidev is http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ || 3.3.x ToC: 30300 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || 3.3.5 Patch Notes are up: http://cot.ag/aCj0Wy || Are you going to BlizzCon (Oct 22 & 23)? http://tinyurl.com/22kjfxu || Cataclysm Closed Beta Test Begins http://cot.ag/9v2zkv || Cataclysm Beta Keys for Authors! http://cot.ag/aG4uy6 or http://cot.ag/bYZvjt || Happy Birthday Wobin & Gryphon |
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| 23:46.10 | MoonWitch | hey foxlit? |
| 23:46.15 | MoonWitch | Thanks for that Paste :) |
| 23:46.18 | foxlit | mm? |
| 23:46.27 | MoonWitch | it make me chuckle |
| 23:46.29 | MoonWitch | made* |
| 23:47.06 | Adys | ~ping |
| 23:47.06 | purl | ~pong |
| 23:47.43 | MoonWitch | evil hiccups hurt |
| 23:56.13 | Jamash | I predict massive QQs about demo warlocks in pvp |
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