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| 00:04.18 | MoonWitch | Wobin : Indeed ... She does sound good |
| 00:04.37 | MoonWitch | sorry for the quiet all of the sudden. I had my mother make an appearance |
| 00:07.01 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/840610191 |
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| 00:11.26 | NightHawkTheSane | i just assumed you were busy fantasizing about amanda tapping ;) |
| 00:14.08 | Cloudwolf | Adys who does the garfield minus garfield stuff |
| 00:14.10 | Cloudwolf | lol |
| 00:14.27 | Adys | some guy |
| 00:14.38 | Cloudwolf | i assume not hte guy who does garfield :D |
| 00:14.52 | NightHawkTheSane | no. :P |
| 00:15.04 | Cloudwolf | heh |
| 00:15.07 | NightHawkTheSane | athough he's kinda given it a seal of approval |
| 00:15.08 | Adys | no, a fan |
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| 00:15.20 | Cloudwolf | I wonder if he got permission >.> |
| 00:15.28 | NightHawkTheSane | not originally, i believe. |
| 00:15.33 | Adys | but they're friends somewhat |
| 00:15.37 | NightHawkTheSane | but jim davis said "yeah, thats pretty funny, its cool" |
| 00:15.39 | Cloudwolf | heh |
| 00:15.59 | Adys | davis said he liked it a few months after |
| 00:16.13 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 00:16.16 | Adys | so im compiling and installing a wifi kernel module |
| 00:16.23 | Adys | any idea why it's compiling the ENTIRE kernel? |
| 00:16.45 | Adys | i thought the whole point of modules were not having to do that |
| 00:16.56 | Adys | was* |
| 00:17.50 | Wobin | lol |
| 00:17.52 | Wobin | "The dishwasher tablets we have at the moment, require to be taken OUT OF THE WRAPPER!" |
| 00:18.03 | Wobin | "I just found 2 undissolved tablets, wrapper intact at the bottom of the dishwasher, I have removed said items, and put a new one in and started the dishwasher again " |
| 00:18.09 | Wobin | Spot the bachelor =P |
| 00:19.09 | Jerub | Wobin: <3 |
| 00:19.19 | Adys | he's wrong |
| 00:19.22 | Adys | they're just reusable |
| 00:19.28 | Cloudwolf | Wobin sounds like the game the show "How I Met Your Mother" came up with. Drunk or a kid? XD |
| 00:19.55 | Dagmar | Adys: It's doing that because you're a newb, probably |
| 00:21.07 | Dagmar | There is also another likely reason, and that you changed something pertaining to the monolithic part of the kernel, or that you didn't have that part already compiled into object files |
| 00:21.13 | Dagmar | These reasons can overlap |
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| 00:27.24 | Adys | Dagmar: latter then, it's ubuntu remember |
| 00:27.26 | Adys | but |
| 00:27.35 | Adys | im almost positive i didnt have to compile the kernel last time ... |
| 00:27.38 | Arrowmaster | i was just about to mention that |
| 00:28.47 | Jerub | Shadowed: here? |
| 00:28.54 | Dagmar | Then if you typed 'make all' instead of 'make modules' it's all you |
| 00:29.09 | Adys | i didnt type anything |
| 00:29.15 | Dagmar | I take the lazy-ass approach and just compile as many things as I think I will possibly ever need as modues |
| 00:29.17 | Adys | make modules_prepare in the kernel itself |
| 00:29.21 | Adys | but that was fine |
| 00:29.27 | Adys | im just make-installing off the driver |
| 00:29.55 | Dagmar | But either way, yes it does normally "just" build the module. You were missing somehting it needed apparently |
| 00:30.06 | Adys | shrug |
| 00:30.09 | Adys | gotta go anyway |
| 00:30.10 | Adys | bbl |
| 00:30.21 | Arrowmaster | i just use the distro provided kernel and if i need to compile other modules i have them compiled in the distro method so that i have .debs for them |
| 00:30.27 | Dagmar | I'm thinking calling modules_prepare direcly may have had something to do with it |
| 00:31.45 | Arrowmaster | actually right now any extra modules i need compiled are all done using dkms |
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| 00:34.24 | Jerub | Shadowed: dunno if you care, but i logged out in my healer spec so i could show you the shard of the scale/flame thing |
| 00:34.27 | Jerub | http://elitistarmory.com/US/Dath'Remar/Brandi |
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| 00:44.09 | Cloudwolf | Jerub are those trinkets even any good? |
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| 00:49.16 | Jerub | Cloudwolf: they're dated now, but i haven't managedto get anything better. |
| 00:49.30 | Cloudwolf | Thats what i figured |
| 00:49.38 | Jerub | there's a +111sp trinket from one of the icc5mans, but i need a 245+ partner for to break the set and upgrade |
| 00:49.40 | Cloudwolf | Well i figured dated. Wasn't sure if you only equiped them to show him |
| 00:49.53 | Jerub | nah, those are what i use on my healer. |
| 00:50.01 | Cloudwolf | Jerub 50 frost badges and your good to go? |
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| 00:50.23 | Jerub | Cloudwolf: i've an equivilent geared bear, i'm badge constrained |
| 00:50.30 | Cloudwolf | Ah |
| 00:50.42 | Cloudwolf | the curse of being a dual specced hybrid lol |
| 00:50.47 | Jerub | and i prefer tanking. i'm saving up for my 4T10 |
| 00:50.49 | Lunessa | Station. |
| 00:50.58 | Cloudwolf | Uh? |
| 00:52.27 | Jerub | (currently on 3T10 on my bear) |
| 00:52.53 | Cloudwolf | Better than me Jerub |
| 00:53.05 | Cloudwolf | i only have t10 pants |
| 00:53.09 | Cloudwolf | http://elitistarmory.com/US/Feathermoon/Slashu |
| 00:53.20 | Cloudwolf | well lets make that the only t10 set item i have |
| 00:53.56 | Cloudwolf | i really gota replace my boots lol |
| 00:54.00 | Cloudwolf | ilevel 219 D: |
| 00:57.08 | Thunder_Child | http://store.steampowered.com/app/630/ |
| 00:57.10 | Dagmar | THat site needs a bit of work |
| 00:57.26 | Dagmar | I'm pretty sure I've done more than 1% of Ulduar |
| 00:59.16 | Cloudwolf | and i'm sure i havn't :D |
| 00:59.48 | Cloudwolf | well i have but lol i don't realy care i haven't gotten far in it |
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| 01:04.33 | Cloudwolf | Thunder_child that was a decent game |
| 01:04.48 | Cloudwolf | Until it gets some modders on it |
| 01:05.06 | Cloudwolf | the campaign may not be so replayable. I wonder if you can mod it into FFA mode |
| 01:05.35 | Jerub | i lost a roll on my bear's boots because i was healing icc25 last night |
| 01:05.40 | Jerub | so it went to OS and i lost to the other tree |
| 01:05.40 | Jerub | :/ |
| 01:05.47 | Jerub | stuck with 232 acidmaw treads |
| 01:06.20 | Cloudwolf | Jerub atleast they arn't Ilevel 219 treads of dismal fortune |
| 01:06.21 | Thunder_Child | but that would be OS for you |
| 01:06.22 | Cloudwolf | lol |
| 01:06.31 | Jerub | Cloudwolf: i used to have those :P |
| 01:06.42 | Thunder_Child | oh....nvm i misread |
| 01:06.46 | Jerub | Thunder_Child: yeah, sorry. |
| 01:07.21 | Jerub | i could've requested MS rolls as tank not heals because i signed up to tank and was relegated to healing, but I decided not to. |
| 01:07.29 | Jerub | .... and rolled and won 2 items MS heals |
| 01:08.15 | Jerub | nevermelting ice crystal. |
| 01:08.20 | Jerub | need to farm hpos for that |
| 01:09.32 | Jerub | and maybe i can get sliver of pure ice this week from icc10 |
| 01:10.11 | Cloudwolf | i look at my gear and go I'm fairly geared then I look at my boots and instantly go awww.... |
| 01:10.51 | Cloudwolf | hmm prince valanar thats what my raids at for prog better hope those drop :D |
| 01:12.07 | Jerub | my trinkets and my offhand are my lowest items on my tree now |
| 01:12.14 | Jerub | http://quickarmory.com/?n=brandi&r=Dath%27Remar |
| 01:12.32 | Cloudwolf | lol that page just showed up as pure text on my screen jerub |
| 01:12.34 | Cloudwolf | O.o |
| 01:12.34 | Jerub | finally upgraded my tree's neck, and went from 264 pvp cloak to 264 healer cloak last night |
| 01:12.37 | Jerub | Cloudwolf: it's xml |
| 01:12.49 | Jerub | Cloudwolf: what browser are you using? |
| 01:12.54 | Cloudwolf | firefox |
| 01:13.13 | Jerub | quickarmory is the only website i know that stores alternate specs, so i have to use it to show my alternate gear set |
| 01:13.22 | Cloudwolf | wow-heroes |
| 01:13.34 | Jerub | hm, should give that a go |
| 01:13.39 | Cloudwolf | ah script block caused that |
| 01:14.57 | Wobin | huh |
| 01:15.08 | Jerub | Wobin: hm? |
| 01:15.14 | Wobin | in our raids, I can roll on healing mainspec if I'm swapped to dps |
| 01:15.23 | Wobin | especially if noone else MS rolls |
| 01:15.28 | Cloudwolf | I think jerub mighta been a pug but i could be wrong :D |
| 01:15.34 | Wobin | which makes more sense to me |
| 01:15.41 | Jerub | Wobin: i had the option to do that |
| 01:15.49 | Wobin | yeah, pugs aren't so much about the raid benefit |
| 01:15.56 | Jerub | Wobin: but it's not fair to roll MS on two specs |
| 01:16.29 | Jerub | it was a calculated risk. there was 1 rogue and 2 trees, the tanks were war/war/pally. |
| 01:16.55 | Jerub | so i decided to roll MS heals on the basis that i would be able to OS roll on leather, and MS on caster items |
| 01:17.11 | Jerub | (and i also inspected the rogue to check his boots were 264 first) |
| 01:17.36 | Jerub | ... i played poker and blackjack before playing wow, so i always check the odds :P |
| 01:18.44 | Jerub | i'm starting to quite dislikehealing unfortunately. |
| 01:18.56 | Cloudwolf | heh |
| 01:19.22 | Jerub | i'm just not healing as much as other healers in my raids and i don't know how to improve. |
| 01:19.25 | Jerub | it's too whackamole |
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| 01:19.32 | Jerub | and i'm too slow at it or something |
| 01:20.25 | Cloudwolf | i'm not sure i enjoy druid healing i tried it on my alt |
| 01:20.30 | Cloudwolf | hot hot hot sit and do nothing |
| 01:20.32 | Cloudwolf | hot hot |
| 01:20.33 | Cloudwolf | sit |
| 01:20.39 | Cloudwolf | then again that was >.> level 25 lol |
| 01:20.48 | Cloudwolf | no one was taking LULZ YOU DEAD dammage |
| 01:20.51 | Jerub | Cloudwolf: hah. compare that to my shamman healing at level 30-40. |
| 01:20.59 | Jerub | which was whack totem button. |
| 01:21.01 | Jerub | wait |
| 01:21.02 | Cloudwolf | my shamans level 45 and resto i enjoy that |
| 01:21.04 | Jerub | cast healing wave |
| 01:21.05 | Thunder_Child | dru healing is boring till you get to the higher levels |
| 01:21.06 | Jerub | wait |
| 01:21.17 | Jerub | when raiding it's rolling hots on an entire raid. |
| 01:21.31 | Jerub | or tank healing which is keeping 3 hots + casts going |
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| 01:21.40 | Jerub | i want cataclysm druid healing. have nourish refresh lifebloom |
| 01:21.54 | Adys | Dagmar |
| 01:22.31 | Adys | ld: /ubuntu/omnibook/sections.lds: No such file: No such file or directory |
| 01:22.35 | Adys | getting this around the end of the install |
| 01:22.36 | Adys | any idea? |
| 01:22.37 | Adys | google being useless |
| 01:23.42 | Cide | change distro? |
| 01:23.48 | Adys | yeha Im on it |
| 01:23.56 | Cide | change distro again |
| 01:24.00 | Adys | off an openwifi with 10% reception |
| 01:24.01 | Adys | and 2kbps speed |
| 01:24.09 | Adys | i think i know |
| 01:24.09 | Cide | sweet dude |
| 01:24.12 | Adys | had this before |
| 01:24.23 | Shadowed | Jerub: No it's fine, I know what the issue is but it won't get fixed until I have time |
| 01:24.46 | Jerub | Shadowed: awesome. i was worried i'd confused you the other day |
| 01:25.04 | Shadowed | No, what confused me was I thought you were talking about EG which made no sense |
| 01:25.43 | Adys | PWD= $(shell pwd) |
| 01:25.44 | Adys | ugh |
| 01:28.14 | Wobin | oh nice |
| 01:28.15 | Wobin | http://www.google.com/images?q=Felicia+day&hl=en&prmd=inv&source=lnms&tbs=isch:1&ei=pJ5HTJHyENP0cJ-YldgD&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&ved=0CBcQ_AU&biw=1680&bih=884 |
| 01:28.18 | Wobin | google image update |
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| 01:31.00 | robokitty | wat |
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| 01:36.17 | Cide | tumblr style, Wobin |
| 01:39.38 | Cloudwolf | I miss old style image search lol |
| 01:39.43 | Jerub | this is awesome |
| 01:39.48 | Cloudwolf | but thats just my preference >.> |
| 01:39.49 | Jerub | sooo muuuch felicia day! |
| 01:40.04 | Cloudwolf | i decded to search jesus lol |
| 01:40.24 | Wobin | Jerub: that was my initial response too =) |
| 01:40.41 | Cloudwolf | http://paradoxoff.com/lenin-mickey-and-jesus.html |
| 01:40.43 | Cloudwolf | LOL!? |
| 01:40.51 | Wobin | Google Images: Now Providing More Felicia Per Square Inch! |
| 01:41.27 | KarlKFI | hot |
| 01:43.07 | Dagmar | I like it |
| 01:44.20 | Lunessa | My favorite NPC name so far, Chef Boiardi. |
| 01:44.39 | Cloudwolf | lol screenshot? :D? |
| 01:47.01 | Cloudwolf | http://www.geekologie.com/2009/04/holy_noms_jesus_appears_in_kit.php lol.... ok i should stop looking up jesus pictures |
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| 01:48.58 | Jerub | any other trees here? |
| 01:49.17 | Shadowed | nope, only 0s and 1s |
| 01:49.23 | Cloudwolf | heh |
| 01:49.25 | Lunessa | Chef Boiardi - http://s177.photobucket.com/albums/w227/matt_converse/Beta%20Images/?action=view¤t=Chef_Boiardi.png |
| 01:49.40 | Jerub | makes pointers to two other nodes |
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| 01:53.58 | Cloudwolf | Lunessa lol i don't see any PH me thinks perm? |
| 01:55.37 | Cloudwolf | inigo montoy heh |
| 01:55.49 | frontendloader | http://wowuidev.pastebin.com/9ru9nggS so if I have a recursive function stepping through a table of unknown depth, I probably need to pass an additional value to the function to be able to "know where I am" in the table huh |
| 01:57.39 | Wobin | why? |
| 01:57.59 | NightHawkTheSane | does anyone here use znc? |
| 01:58.03 | frontendloader | why ask why |
| 01:58.11 | Wobin | why do you need to know the position? |
| 01:58.46 | frontendloader | Because the "parent keys" to that value are important information |
| 01:59.14 | Wobin | http://wowuidev.pastebin.com/CcQvAcEg |
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| 01:59.46 | frontendloader | well yeah thats only one of the keys though |
| 02:00.13 | Wobin | what are you after? |
| 02:00.44 | frontendloader | nevermind |
| 02:01.46 | Wobin | http://wowuidev.pastebin.com/prBTcaK2 |
| 02:01.48 | Wobin | or something |
| 02:03.04 | frontendloader | yeah thats sorta like what I came up with |
| 02:07.12 | Dagmar | Wobin: They need to go ahead and combine it with the algorithmic searching of http://image-swirl.googlelabs.com/html?q=felicia day |
| 02:08.26 | Wobin | interesting |
| 02:09.11 | Cide | http://www.ustream.tv/day9tv/v3 for anyone who wants to see some kickass sc2 games |
| 02:09.18 | Cide | tournament livecasted atm |
| 02:09.23 | Wobin | Dagmar: nice way of tracking image usage |
| 02:11.56 | frontendloader | yeah I'm not able to think recursively right now :( |
| 02:12.52 | frontendloader | whitera cheesy as usual |
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| 02:17.03 | frontendloader | rip whitera |
| 02:17.36 | Dagmar | Wobin: PUt someting more, um, programmatic in there, like 'LCARS'. Note that the algorithm sorts them all by image type, and intelligently so. It's crazy |
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| 02:22.03 | eidolarr | "The C people, having seen what happens when you extend your language willy-nilly (ie. C++) are deathly afraid of it and will never ever change again. The C++ people are well set on their path (ie. ultimate salvation is right around the corner if we can just add a little more crack to our templates) and will never let it go." |
| 02:22.35 | Wobin | what does that make C#? |
| 02:23.10 | kd3 | shudders |
| 02:23.22 | kd3 | the new ms embrace and extend? |
| 02:23.31 | kd3 | "new", rather |
| 02:23.41 | eidolarr | idk but evidently F# has some redeeming qualities in the area of functional programming |
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| 02:25.13 | eidolarr | has anyone ever built a kernel that uses a garbage collection memory management system? |
| 02:25.18 | eidolarr | i am not sure how you would do it |
| 02:27.09 | eidolarr | "Avoid support for exception handling. It's just too complicated, and moreover, C people just hate exceptions so they will hate you, too." haha |
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| 02:41.30 | frontendloader | Wobin: so lets say I have all of the parent keys in order in an array, {"a", "b", "c"} is the same as tbl["a"]["b"]["c"] for example |
| 02:42.04 | frontendloader | I don't know how many keys I have, but I want to be able to look up that value given the array |
| 02:47.33 | eidolarr | where 'that value' is the number of keys? |
| 02:47.42 | eidolarr | there's an obvious recursive solution |
| 02:48.08 | eidolarr | well, if a recursive solution can be considered obvious |
| 02:48.19 | frontendloader | kinda? the only solution I can think of is: |
| 02:49.22 | frontendloader | well, a recursive lookup function |
| 02:49.33 | eidolarr | maybe I don't understand; if you have t[1][2][3] = 0 and t[1][2][4] = 0 |
| 02:49.35 | eidolarr | what is the right answer? |
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| 02:51.28 | frontendloader | not sure what you're asking, I'm probably not very clear either |
| 02:51.51 | eidolarr | well what's a small example with a corresponding correct output? |
| 02:52.09 | Trela | Dagmar: Image Swirl... That is awesome! |
| 02:52.27 | ckknight | I hate guild drama |
| 02:52.53 | eidolarr | I am convinced that all drama comes from people caring too much |
| 02:52.54 | ajmitch | frontendloader: you're just trying to get the specific value at tbl["a"]["b"]["c"], given only tbl & {"a", "b", "c"} ? |
| 02:53.22 | ajmitch | if so, then a recursive function to do that is the first thing that springs to mind |
| 02:53.24 | eidolarr | oh man I'm sorry, I thought you wanted to count the keys |
| 02:53.30 | eidolarr | yeah, something like |
| 02:53.32 | frontendloader | yeah |
| 02:53.49 | Trela | ckknight: Curse guild drama? |
| 02:54.06 | ckknight | no |
| 02:54.12 | ckknight | I got The Facelifter from Professor Putricide |
| 02:54.14 | ckknight | another tank wanted it |
| 02:54.19 | ajmitch | call itself with {"b","c"}, return a value when there's only "c" left (I think) |
| 02:54.24 | Mirrormn | The Facelifter? wha? |
| 02:54.40 | Cide | function lookup(tbl, values, index) index = index or 1; if index == #values then return tbl[index]; end return lookup(tbl, values, index+1); end |
| 02:54.44 | Cide | done |
| 02:54.53 | frontendloader | yeah |
| 02:54.54 | ckknight | Mirrormn: tank 1-hander |
| 02:54.55 | Mirrormn | oh, 10m loot |
| 02:55.00 | ckknight | yea |
| 02:55.04 | ckknight | so the other tank is butthurt |
| 02:55.07 | ckknight | and it ended the raid early |
| 02:55.09 | Trela | ckknight: If you won it fairly, tell him to piss off. |
| 02:55.12 | Mirrormn | -.- |
| 02:55.19 | ckknight | yea, he had already gotten multiple loot drops |
| 02:55.21 | ajmitch | Cide: thanks, I'm still getting familiar with lua syntax :) |
| 02:55.22 | ckknight | and we rolled on it fairly |
| 02:55.23 | Cide | lua> function lookup(tbl, values, index) index = index or 1; if index == #values then return tbl[index]; end return lookup(tbl, values, index+1); end print(lookup({ a = { b = { c = "hi" } } }, { "a", "b", "c" }) |
| 02:55.23 | lua_bot | Cide: luabot:1: ')' expected near '<eof>' |
| 02:55.25 | ckknight | I won it |
| 02:55.28 | Cide | lua> function lookup(tbl, values, index) index = index or 1; if index == #values then return tbl[index]; end return lookup(tbl, values, index+1); end print(lookup({ a = { b = { c = "hi" } } }, { "a", "b", "c" })) |
| 02:55.28 | lua_bot | Cide: nil |
| 02:55.32 | ckknight | he had been wanting it for "months" |
| 02:55.33 | Cide | oh |
| 02:55.35 | Cide | oops |
| 02:55.41 | ckknight | he got 2 items in the same raid, I haven't gotten anything for 3 weeks |
| 02:55.43 | Cide | lua> function lookup(tbl, values, index) index = index or 1; if index == #values then return tbl[values[index]]; end return lookup(tbl, values, index+1); end print(lookup({ a = { b = { c = "hi" } } }, { "a", "b", "c" })) |
| 02:55.43 | lua_bot | Cide: nil |
| 02:55.45 | Cide | the fuck |
| 02:56.10 | cog|away | FUUUUUUUUUUSKEEEEERRRR! |
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| 02:56.14 | Trela | ckknight: I know that feeling. I had legitimate issues like that come up, but it is typically just OMG SHINY jealously/sickness. |
| 02:56.15 | cog|away | ( Fisker ) |
| 02:56.17 | Cide | lua> function lookup(tbl, values, index) index = index or 1; if index == #values then return tbl[values[index]]; end return lookup(tbl[values[index]], values, index+1); end print(lookup({ a = { b = { c = "hi" } } }, { "a", "b", "c" })) |
| 02:56.17 | lua_bot | Cide: hi |
| 02:56.18 | Cide | there |
| 02:56.23 | cog|away | pings Fisker |
| 02:56.32 | cog|away | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large beta patch |
| 02:56.36 | ckknight | Trela: I want my damn tank gear to be a better tank |
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| 02:56.57 | eidolarr | damn that was my exact solution |
| 02:57.01 | eidolarr | i wonder if there is a cuter way |
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| 02:57.30 | Trela | ckknight: Think you are already most of the way there by not rage quitting. :D |
| 02:58.00 | Zernin | so if my project works in a locale, but isn't fully localized in that locale, can I flag it as usable for that locale? |
| 02:58.20 | Zernin | (on curse) |
| 02:59.04 | eidolarr | probably not? |
| 03:00.31 | Cloudwolf | ckknight am i bad person for being glad that today was my icc 10 mans prog raid (that i missed) but luckily the raid lockout wasn't extended as far as the raid leader expected so they had to start over today simply because if i miss the council and blood queen i lose the chance at drops i need? XD |
| 03:00.56 | Cide | lua> function lookup(tbl, ...) if not (...) then return tbl; end return lookup(tbl[(...)], select(2, ...)); end print(lookup({ a = { b = { c = "hi" } } }, "a", "b", "c")) |
| 03:00.57 | lua_bot | Cide: hi |
| 03:00.59 | Cide | ^ better |
| 03:01.05 | ckknight | Cloudwolf: sounds fine to me, loot is loot. |
| 03:01.22 | eidolarr | nice |
| 03:02.57 | Cide | lua> function lookup(tbl, val, ...) if val == nil then return tbl; end return lookup(tbl[val], ...); end print(lookup({ a = { b = { c = "hi" } } }, "a", "b", "c")) |
| 03:02.57 | lua_bot | Cide: hi |
| 03:02.59 | Cide | ^ better |
| 03:03.56 | eidolarr | i think that is as succinct as it can get without becoming somewhat opaque |
| 03:03.56 | frontendloader | ajmitch: I kinda knew that the solution would have to be recursive since I built the table on recursion already :/ |
| 03:04.41 | eidolarr | what are you doing with such a structure? |
| 03:04.56 | frontendloader | lots of user specified nested options. |
| 03:05.15 | eidolarr | i see |
| 03:05.57 | frontendloader | it should come out pretty elegant when I'm done with it which is nice |
| 03:26.59 | Cide | hmm |
| 03:27.11 | Cide | so css3 supports embedding fonts right |
| 03:27.24 | Cide | I wonder if you're allowed to embed fonts that are proprietary? |
| 03:27.39 | Cide | or commercial rather |
| 03:27.45 | MoonWitch | Cide : Probably not |
| 03:27.55 | Kemayo | If you have licensed them for that purpose. |
| 03:27.59 | Dashkal | I suppose that would depend on your licence terms |
| 03:27.59 | Kemayo | Generally that means "no". |
| 03:28.10 | MoonWitch | aka legally : no, but everyone will do it anyhow. |
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| 03:28.53 | A-KO | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-y-X9qJZhA < shorty is pro |
| 03:28.55 | Kemayo | Cide: Take a look at http://typekit.com/ for someone who has done all the licensing for you. |
| 03:28.56 | Jamash | I foresee people embedding twenty megabyte fonts |
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| 03:29.07 | A-KO | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-y-X9qJZhA < shorty is pro |
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| 03:29.17 | A-KO | err |
| 03:29.20 | A-KO | totally hit up lol |
| 03:29.29 | Kemayo | Cide: Or the google fonts api for free fonts. http://code.google.com/apis/webfonts/ |
| 03:29.47 | Cide | I have a specific font in mind |
| 03:29.58 | Mirrormn | comic sans? |
| 03:30.08 | kd3 | grr |
| 03:30.24 | Jamash | helvetica? |
| 03:30.24 | frontendloader | cide if ... is a table value to begin with your second version won't work right? |
| 03:30.35 | Jamash | courier new? |
| 03:30.36 | Cide | nope |
| 03:30.38 | Kemayo | In that case it's up the font's licensing terms. Foundries are generally opposed to licensing for distribution in that manner, though. |
| 03:30.43 | Jamash | dingbats? |
| 03:30.52 | Cide | seems like EOT allows you to lock down an OTF font |
| 03:30.55 | Cide | for use on a specific domain |
| 03:30.58 | Kemayo | (Or ask for frankly ridiculous amounts of money.) |
| 03:31.01 | Cide | wonder how they feel about that |
| 03:31.08 | Jamash | Cide: Like that will really work |
| 03:31.22 | Cide | no idea about the security |
| 03:31.36 | Jamash | security shmecurity |
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| 03:32.42 | Jamash | is there a way to turn off CSS drop shadow in firefox? |
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| 03:35.38 | Cide | frontendloader, you can always do lookup({ a = { b = { c = "hi" } } }, unpack({ "a", "b", "c" })) |
| 03:36.49 | Cide | Jamash, greasemonkey! |
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| 03:39.12 | Jamash | I was thinking a user style sheet |
| 03:39.43 | kd3 | hugs stylish |
| 03:39.51 | kd3 | sane wow forums css for years |
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| 03:44.12 | Trela | Damn it, I tried to right click in WoW for "Inspect Element." D: |
| 03:44.21 | Jamash | haha |
| 03:44.57 | cogwheel | beta login down? |
| 03:45.10 | kd3 | no. check the stickies to update your realmlist.wtf file |
| 03:45.32 | cogwheel | gracias |
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| 03:47.23 | Trela | !api resize |
| 03:47.23 | lua_bot | Found 4 possible results for 'resize': Frame:SetMaxResize, Frame:GetMaxResize, Frame:SetMinResize, Frame:GetMinResize |
| 03:47.30 | Trela | !api sizing |
| 03:47.30 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'sizing': Frame:StartSizing, Frame:StopMovingOrSizing |
| 03:47.33 | Jamash | I think they did it on purpose to weed out beta testers who don't read the forums </tinfoilhat> |
| 03:47.53 | Jamash | if so, I approve wholeheartedly |
| 03:49.50 | nicoli_s | i read the forums if by the forums you mean mmo-chapmion |
| 03:50.00 | Jamash | either or |
| 03:50.34 | Jamash | the next build will require you to solve a matchstick problem to log in |
| 03:52.26 | frontendloader | Cide: did not know about unpack() |
| 03:56.43 | Arrowmaster | Cide: i thought EOT only worked on IE |
| 03:56.44 | cogwheel | why is windows gvim's default font Fixedsys? QQ |
| 03:56.51 | Trela | !api ResizeBottomRightTexture |
| 03:56.51 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'ResizeBottomRightTexture'. |
| 03:56.57 | Jamash | why is windows gvim |
| 03:57.09 | Arrowmaster | cogwheel: because windows doesnt have a decent terminal font |
| 03:57.22 | cogwheel | courier new is fine, consolas is pretty hawt |
| 03:57.31 | cogwheel | at least they're scalable |
| 03:57.44 | Arrowmaster | those are all too thin though for a true terminal font |
| 03:58.06 | cogwheel | it's a text editor... |
| 03:58.18 | Jamash | OR IS IT |
| 03:58.23 | Arrowmaster | its a text editor in a terminal |
| 03:58.26 | cogwheel | Jamash: you're thinking emacs |
| 03:58.28 | cogwheel | :P |
| 03:58.46 | Jamash | emacs and vim are both shoggoths |
| 03:58.48 | cogwheel | Arrowmaster: Gvim... it has menus and shit |
| 03:58.49 | cogwheel | :P |
| 03:59.12 | Arrowmaster | gvim is still just a terminal with a few vim specific things running vim |
| 03:59.28 | cogwheel | right... but what does that have to do with the fact that it defaults to fixedsys? |
| 03:59.40 | Jamash | true, fixedsys is wretched |
| 04:00.07 | Jamash | lucida console is ok |
| 04:00.15 | Arrowmaster | well consolas is only on vista and higher, plus it looks absolutely fucking horrible with cleartype disabled so thats out |
| 04:00.17 | cogwheel | and courier new doesn't look too awful in bold |
| 04:00.28 | cogwheel | who disables cleartype? :P |
| 04:00.30 | Arrowmaster | lucida console is only available if you install sun java |
| 04:00.35 | Arrowmaster | cogwheel: i do |
| 04:00.42 | Arrowmaster | because i cant fucking stand it |
| 04:00.54 | cogwheel | then you sit too close |
| 04:01.14 | cogwheel | your eyesight is too good :P |
| 04:03.01 | cogwheel | i'm so happy apple's font patents ran out... |
| 04:03.24 | Jamash | I think Lucida Console ships with XP and newer windowses |
| 04:03.29 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 04:03.57 | Arrowmaster | the lucida series is distributed with sun java |
| 04:04.19 | cogwheel | http://www.ampsoft.net/webdesign-l/WindowsMacFonts.html |
| 04:04.39 | Torhal | I need to wake up so I can figure out why I need to be root for smplayer to not tell me to fuck off. |
| 04:05.04 | Jamash | ok, I was wrong, lucida console ships with versions of windows newer than windows 98 |
| 04:05.24 | cogwheel | Arrowmaster: you were saying? :P |
| 04:05.50 | kd3 | ahaha... "The Brothers Digsong 2: Eel-Egg-Trick Boogaloo" |
| 04:06.19 | cogwheel | courier new looks fine in bold if you think it's too thin imo |
| 04:06.20 | kd3 | I wonder how long some depraved quest designer has been sitting on that |
| 04:06.39 | cogwheel | even better at higher font sizes (or dpi... however you want to look at it) |
| 04:07.30 | Jamash | Arrowmaster: https://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/font.aspx?FMID=1262 |
| 04:07.35 | Arrowmaster | ok then its probably lucida sans typewritter thats monospace and installed as part of java |
| 04:08.17 | cogwheel | heh... courier new bold is less bold than some of the other normal fonts... |
| 04:08.37 | Jerub | i hate courier new. |
| 04:08.49 | cogwheel | Jerub: better than fixedsys... just sayin... |
| 04:09.11 | Arrowmaster | i like terminus bold as a console font but i dont think youll find it on windows |
| 04:11.19 | Cide | Arrowmaster, ya, maybe |
| 04:11.26 | Cide | didn't bother researching it further |
| 04:12.06 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: so what error are you getting trying to run smplayer? |
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| 04:16.43 | Dagmar | so... I'm beginning to realize that possibly society is ruined |
| 04:16.56 | Dagmar | 13 year old kid and his brother beat their father to death with a baseball bat... |
| 04:17.29 | Dagmar | Sentenced to jail until they're 18. Fast forward to now... The kid is on freaking Larry King being interviewed and given advice by Deepak Chopra and stuff |
| 04:17.42 | Dagmar | Did I mention _he beat his father to death with a baseball bat?_ |
| 04:17.44 | Dagmar | wtf |
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| 04:19.31 | Yssaril | maybed had it comming? |
| 04:19.33 | Jamash | well, was it aluminum or wood? |
| 04:19.38 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: http://paste.wowace.com/2241/ |
| 04:20.14 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: but it works as root you said? |
| 04:20.28 | Torhal | Aye. And I can run mplayer by itself without a crash |
| 04:20.43 | Arrowmaster | whats in your ~/.mplayer/config |
| 04:20.49 | Torhal | All was fine until I updated my nVidia drivers (which necessitated a different kernel) |
| 04:21.04 | Arrowmaster | using vdpau? |
| 04:21.31 | kd3 | rebooted? |
| 04:21.31 | Torhal | Just this: # Write your default config options here! |
| 04:21.53 | Torhal | kd3: This isn't Windows. And to install a new kernel I had to :) |
| 04:22.01 | Arrowmaster | what card do you have |
| 04:22.07 | Torhal | 9800GTX+ |
| 04:22.20 | Wobin | Dagmar: society has been ruined for a long time |
| 04:22.35 | Arrowmaster | and paste the top of the mplayer log window from smplayer, it should have the entire command line it used to call mplayer |
| 04:22.35 | Wobin | I blame the externalisation of blame =) |
| 04:22.39 | Dagmar | torhal: It *should* be working |
| 04:23.13 | durcyn | Torhal: first finger i'd point is devfs permissions, strace it imo. |
| 04:23.32 | Dagmar | Meh. Only if it works fine as root |
| 04:23.41 | durcyn | he said it worked as root? |
| 04:23.52 | Jamash | Torhal>I need to wake up so I can figure out why I need to be root for smplayer to not tell me to fuck off. |
| 04:23.56 | Torhal | Interesting. Didn't realize the log scrolled down |
| 04:24.07 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: http://paste.wowace.com/2242/ |
| 04:24.35 | Jamash | -ass? |
| 04:24.35 | Dagmar | -ass-font-scale... o.O |
| 04:24.43 | kd3 | it's formatted subtitles |
| 04:24.44 | cbreak | advanced sub station |
| 04:24.45 | durcyn | ASS/SSA is SubStation Alpha subtitle format, you cretins. |
| 04:24.51 | cbreak | a subtitle renderer |
| 04:24.59 | Torhal | Haha |
| 04:25.01 | Arrowmaster | -vo gl:yuv=2:force-pbo |
| 04:25.05 | Arrowmaster | hmm |
| 04:25.21 | Trela | Damn it, I hate working with the XML files trying to set backgrounds/back drops and all I end with are big white boxes. |
| 04:25.23 | Jamash | hey, I'm not the one with -ass -slave on my command line |
| 04:25.31 | Dagmar | Heh |
| 04:25.32 | cbreak | why do you use -vo gl? not that this is bad though. but default is xv |
| 04:25.34 | Arrowmaster | why are you using gl instead of vdpau if you have an nvidia card? |
| 04:25.49 | Dagmar | Yeah, in all cases with nVidia, you just pick the bog-stupid defaults |
| 04:25.52 | Torhal | I think that was the best option I had listed. |
| 04:25.57 | Dagmar | It's hooked into the places it needs to and things "just work" |
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| 04:26.03 | Torhal | I had xv and OpenGL |
| 04:26.11 | Dagmar | mplayer is also smart enough to figure out vdpau is around |
| 04:26.45 | Torhal | Though now I have vdpau |
| 04:26.49 | Torhal | Just set that, no more crash |
| 04:26.52 | Torhal | WTF? |
| 04:26.53 | Dagmar | It *should* be using -vo vdpau |
| 04:26.57 | Jamash | how about that |
| 04:27.24 | Torhal | Jamash: It was working fine :P |
| 04:27.25 | Dagmar | Well, assuming this is a codec vdpau can deal with |
| 04:27.40 | cbreak | vo vdpau can deal with all codecs |
| 04:27.44 | kd3 | even then, -vo vdpau works for stuff not getting decoded on the card |
| 04:27.53 | cbreak | the limiting factor are the -vc for it |
| 04:27.58 | Dagmar | Not all, but all the codecs that right-thinking people should be using |
| 04:28.00 | Arrowmaster | -vo vdpau:deint=4:pullup is fucking amazing for dvds |
| 04:28.24 | cbreak | only bad dvds Arrowmaster |
| 04:28.33 | cbreak | well mastered DVDs are progressive :) |
| 04:28.38 | Jamash | ^ |
| 04:28.44 | Arrowmaster | well for when watching dvds of interlaced tv shows it was amazing |
| 04:29.02 | cbreak | pullup is bad for interlacing |
| 04:29.12 | cbreak | it's inverse telecine |
| 04:29.17 | Wobin | http://telerikwatch.com/2010/07/free-justcode-justmock-licenses-for-all.html |
| 04:29.23 | Wobin | that's kinda cool |
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| 04:31.08 | Arrowmaster | well i dont think i had the pullup on there when i was rewatching a bunch of interlaced series but now in my config ive got [protocol.dvd] vo=vdpau:deint=4:pullup |
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| 04:34.00 | Jamash | does anyone know of a minimalish OOP framework for lua? I've spent several hours coding objects when I'd rather be doing something productive with them |
| 04:35.11 | Wobin | not minimalish |
| 04:35.43 | Wobin | or maybe http://loop.luaforge.net/ |
| 04:37.18 | Jerub | anyone with gemming advice for tankadins? |
| 04:37.33 | Jamash | stanimas |
| 04:39.46 | Jerub | http://elitistarmory.com/US/Dath'Remar/Lithyne |
| 04:40.50 | |Jelly| | Like ... straight stamina, pending you have defense/hit/expertise 'cap' |
| 04:41.10 | Torhal | Jamash: http://www.wowace.com/addons/liboop/ |
| 04:41.11 | Jerub | i don't think she's hit eiter the hit or expertise softcap |
| 04:41.16 | Jerub | i have no idea about paladins iether. |
| 04:41.25 | Torhal | I have no idea what the API looks like, but that fits the bill |
| 04:41.26 | Jerub | there needs to be an addon that tells you what gems to play with |
| 04:41.54 | Jamash | Torhal: Thanks! |
| 04:43.06 | Jinivus|atWork | ~stamina |
| 04:43.56 | Cide | wow |
| 04:44.02 | Cide | shutter island is a deeply disturbing movie |
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| 04:48.17 | Jinivus|atWork | ~wb tekkub |
| 04:48.18 | purl | ACTION welcomes tekkub back |
| 04:48.48 | Cide | good bot spam, Jinivus|atWork |
| 04:49.39 | Jinivus|atWork | :D |
| 04:49.55 | Arrowmaster | Cide: good movie though |
| 04:49.58 | Cide | I hope so |
| 04:50.03 | Cide | it's constantly creeping me out |
| 04:50.14 | Arrowmaster | oh your still watching it? |
| 04:50.16 | Jamash | shutter island? I hardly know er? |
| 04:50.16 | Cide | got a theory about the ending that I'm interested in seeing if it turns out right |
| 04:50.20 | Cide | yeah |
| 04:50.26 | Cide | about halfway through |
| 04:50.38 | Jamash | leonardo dicaprio is actually a ghost |
| 04:50.48 | Cide | don't spoil stuff |
| 04:50.58 | Jamash | I'm not, I haven't seen it |
| 04:52.57 | Arrowmaster | i want to hear your theory |
| 04:53.13 | Cide | after |
| 04:53.43 | Cide | I have a feeling the author thought of it and created a different twist |
| 04:54.20 | Arrowmaster | i also want your interpretation of the ending scene |
| 04:54.34 | Jamash | it all takes place in a dream but the dream is really a computer simulation but the computer simulation is actually an alternate dimension but the alternate dimension is really a hallucination but the final twist is that at the end you find out that you have _actually been watching a movie the entire time_ |
| 04:55.14 | Jamash | Anyone here watch Existenz? |
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| 04:57.26 | kd3 | the male growth hormone pill? |
| 04:57.28 | kd3 | >.> |
| 04:57.30 | Jamash | no |
| 04:58.02 | Jamash | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120907/ |
| 04:58.37 | Jamash | spoiler: it's terrible |
| 04:59.36 | Jamash | oh, it was written and directed by cronenberg |
| 04:59.41 | Jamash | that explains so much |
| 05:00.26 | Jinivus|atWork | licks Cide |
| 05:02.38 | olafski | oh I liked existenz :) |
| 05:03.02 | olafski | jamash: nice one @ "can I have your stuff" btw :) |
| 05:03.06 | Jamash | :D |
| 05:04.03 | Jerub | olafski: yeah, i saw it after american psycho at a movie night |
| 05:04.15 | Jerub | olafski: was a good enviornmnet to watch that one in |
| 05:04.17 | Jamash | ugh |
| 05:04.19 | Jerub | i probably wouldn't watch it again |
| 05:04.24 | Jamash | quality whiplash |
| 05:05.44 | Fisker | slaps Jerub around a bit with a large trout |
| 05:05.45 | Fisker | slaps Jamash around a bit with a large trout |
| 05:05.48 | Fisker | slaps olafski around a bit with a large trout |
| 05:05.54 | Jamash | eats the trout. |
| 05:06.16 | olafski | yeah once is enough jerub :) |
| 05:14.00 | cogwheel | slaps Fisker around a bit with this "C++" code: http://cogwheel.pastey.net/138808 |
| 05:14.57 | Fisker | cogwheel |
| 05:15.04 | Fisker | http://gordon.fz.se/bildcache/z/zgveuwsldbrcoik219q03h4ntpj76f5y.jpg |
| 05:15.09 | Fisker | http://gordon.fz.se/bildcache/y/yarwvtsiq76nf1edz9h5ol32jg0mb84p.jpg |
| 05:15.14 | Fisker | http://gordon.fz.se/bildcache/u/ux5ta7ydjh3kcrlvqow28bnf04sgp619.jpg |
| 05:15.21 | Fisker | i likes what i'm seeings |
| 05:15.32 | cogwheel | is worried |
| 05:15.47 | Jamash | brb ordering collector's edition |
| 05:16.21 | olafski | how much does the normal version cost? |
| 05:16.40 | Jamash | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_E83GfWM-A&feature=player_embedded zomg |
| 05:16.58 | Jinivus|atWork | pokes Fisker |
| 05:17.17 | Jamash | mengsk has the best villain voice |
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| 05:18.29 | Fisker | i lold over bulletproof tv Jamash |
| 05:18.32 | Fisker | must happen a lot down there |
| 05:18.34 | Jamash | hee |
| 05:21.19 | Jamash | is it wrong if the ghost with the dreadlocks reminds me of Battlefield Earth? |
| 05:23.00 | Wobin | they totally opened it! |
| 05:26.04 | olafski | shame that they can make such beautiful 3d models but they can't lipsync them properly |
| 05:26.43 | Trela | I hate edge files. |
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| 05:27.28 | Cide | who the fuck cares about lipsyncing |
| 05:27.30 | Cide | and it wasn't bad |
| 05:27.58 | olafski | what else am I to care about.. gameplay? hah |
| 05:28.10 | Fisker | olafski |
| 05:28.15 | Fisker | i just killed your mom |
| 05:28.17 | Cide | the awesomeness of that video? |
| 05:28.37 | olafski | wasn't really impressed by the awesomeness.. though I do wonder what that prince fella is going to offer raynor |
| 05:28.47 | Cide | have you played sc1? |
| 05:28.50 | olafski | sort of |
| 05:28.54 | Cide | the campaign |
| 05:29.01 | olafski | don't remember much of the story |
| 05:29.09 | Cide | did you play through the campaign at all? |
| 05:29.15 | olafski | yes, all of it :P |
| 05:29.24 | Cide | then you're just one boring sonofa |
| 05:29.32 | Cide | that video was awesome. |
| 05:29.39 | olafski | I globally remember what it was about but it didn't really stick apparently |
| 05:29.48 | Arrowmaster | i think i got upto near the end of the protoss campaign, never really played the expansion though |
| 05:29.50 | olafski | maybe I'll get this one, I like singleplayer RTS |
| 05:30.29 | olafski | terran hating on terran, zerg hating on everybody.. kerrigan getting infested.. that's about it :P |
| 05:30.40 | olafski | and something about the xel'naga did it |
| 05:31.45 | Fisker | hey Arrowmaster |
| 05:32.35 | olafski | I imagine the thing raynor has wanted is to be with kerrigan |
| 05:32.36 | Mirrormn | that trailer looks like it was made for Summer Blockbuster #532 |
| 05:32.44 | olafski | :) |
| 05:33.02 | Jamash | Trailer dialogue is unfortunately not one of blizzard's strong points |
| 05:33.15 | olafski | isn't it just clips from cutscenes put together? |
| 05:33.18 | Jamash | yeah |
| 05:33.31 | olafski | I guess that's what a trailer generally is anyway though :P |
| 05:33.32 | Kyrain | I does look nice, but the DoW-Trailer are better imo |
| 05:33.32 | Jamash | but even so, take the WotLK opening cinematic |
| 05:33.49 | olafski | the DoW trailer is the intro movie isn't it? |
| 05:33.57 | Kyrain | right |
| 05:34.04 | olafski | those rock |
| 05:34.08 | Mirrormn | I wonder if someone from hollywood just lent them like a generic trailer template |
| 05:34.15 | Mirrormn | "insert spaceship flyover here" |
| 05:34.18 | olafski | not hard to deduce that mirrormn ;) |
| 05:34.22 | Mirrormn | "music swell here" |
| 05:34.27 | Jamash | Mirrormn: gtfo my internets |
| 05:34.31 | olafski | it does have all the classic elements :) |
| 05:34.53 | Mirrormn | "drop music mix here and deliver Classic Line" |
| 05:35.01 | olafski | also the hero taking a last stand against an overwhelming force, a badass who fell from grace coming back |
| 05:35.27 | Jamash | it's like a spaghetti western in space, it's derivative on purpose |
| 05:35.31 | Mirrormn | well I'm not even necessarily talking about the underlying plot |
| 05:35.38 | Kyrain | Well, the first video, the one with the Marine dressing up, was nice though |
| 05:35.48 | olafski | that was a nice teaser :) |
| 05:36.31 | olafski | what about the wotlk opening cinematics btw? |
| 05:36.51 | Jamash | if you actually take the entire voice over |
| 05:36.58 | Jamash | it's totally disjointed and goofy |
| 05:37.06 | olafski | hm |
| 05:37.07 | olafski | I liked it :( |
| 05:37.14 | Jamash | it's designed so the viewer doesn't notice because the visuals are so stunning |
| 05:37.16 | olafski | it's the one about "my son, everything the light touches is our kingdom" right? |
| 05:37.20 | olafski | oh wait that was the lion king |
| 05:37.27 | Jamash | badum-tish |
| 05:37.29 | Mirrormn | BURN SNAP |
| 05:37.48 | olafski | I always got that feeling when I heard the first few sentences :) |
| 05:38.05 | Mirrormn | I don't care about SC2 that much, I was always much more a diabl 2 fan |
| 05:38.12 | Mirrormn | *diablo |
| 05:38.28 | olafski | same |
| 05:38.34 | olafski | though I don't really follow diablo3 either |
| 05:38.41 | Mirrormn | high fives Olafksi |
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| 05:39.10 | Mirrormn | follow as in like, actually follow its development? |
| 05:39.14 | olafski | yeah |
| 05:39.17 | Mirrormn | yeah me neither |
| 05:39.28 | olafski | I'll just be surprised when it's out ;) |
| 05:39.47 | olafski | got plenty of 360 games to divide my attention between |
| 05:39.56 | Mirrormn | it seemed like they had their engine and basic game mechanics down like forever ago |
| 05:39.59 | olafski | crackdown 2 finally arrived yesterday, can go pick it up this afternoon :D |
| 05:40.11 | Mirrormn | wasn't there a full gameplay video out last year sometime? |
| 05:40.17 | olafski | yeah.. being the rabid diablo2 player that I was I'm just worried that they changed too much :) |
| 05:40.25 | olafski | but it's probably for the best |
| 05:42.35 | Kyrain | nah, updated graphics engine, new classes, maybe new story line |
| 05:42.58 | Jamash | they had to go back to the drawing board and figure out how to include more rainbows |
| 05:43.03 | olafski | have they said whether guild reputation will be account-wide btw? |
| 05:43.19 | Mirrormn | Jamash |
| 05:43.19 | olafski | yeah I imagine that's difficult jamash, there's only so many rainbows you can fit on a screen |
| 05:43.27 | Mirrormn | you and I are about to resort to fisticuffs |
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| 05:43.38 | Jamash | no I think a blizzard dev said so |
| 05:44.27 | Kyrain | on a totally different note, can someone tell me why this function only creates one statusbar and not like 50? http://wowuidev.pastey.net/138809 |
| 05:45.34 | olafski | just a guess, but you're calling them all the same name? |
| 05:45.42 | olafski | no wait.. StatusBar is the type I guess |
| 05:45.53 | Kyrain | yes |
| 05:45.56 | olafski | is glad he only does addons without UI ;) |
| 05:46.08 | Kyrain | "Bar"..i is the name |
| 05:46.20 | olafski | does it print the message 50 times? |
| 05:46.30 | Arrowmaster | why dont you print out the value of graph.BarNum right before the for loop |
| 05:46.34 | Kyrain | yes |
| 05:46.41 | olafski | hm |
| 05:46.54 | Wobin | um |
| 05:46.59 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:47.00 | Kyrain | well the message create i: actually runs from 1 to 50 |
| 05:47.25 | Kyrain | thats the variable I set to 50 |
| 05:47.56 | Kyrain | the loop runs 50 times |
| 05:49.39 | Kyrain | maybe the bars are created on top of each other |
| 05:50.34 | Mirrormn | it looks to me like maybe you can't reuse that one texture for every bar |
| 05:51.24 | Kyrain | oh ok, I'll try to change that part |
| 05:52.00 | Kyrain | also the bar which I can see is on the very right |
| 05:52.22 | Jinivus|atWork | herp |
| 05:52.54 | Fisker | http://www.hardocp.com/image.html?image=MTI3OTc0NDYwN3RmcHhnWU9IN3NfMV8xX2wuanBn <-best attempt yet |
| 05:53.41 | Kyrain | Ha.. thanks Mirrormn, you were right |
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| 05:54.24 | Mirrormn | the ironic thing is, wouldn't the sticker keep it from losing reception? |
| 05:55.01 | Jamash | yeah huh |
| 05:55.18 | Kyrain | woohoo, realtime health graph is running |
| 05:55.25 | Jamash | cool |
| 05:55.27 | Fisker | naw you can still bridge the antennas |
| 05:55.35 | Fisker | i think |
| 05:55.52 | Fisker | also they could just make it conductive! |
| 06:00.20 | Mike-N--1 | Night |
| 06:00.36 | Fisker | slaps cog|sleep around a bit with a large trout |
| 06:00.37 | Fisker | slaps cog|sleep around a bit with a large trout |
| 06:00.38 | Mike-N--1 | ponders how his name got messed up. |
| 06:01.28 | Mike-N-Go | . |
| 06:06.50 | Wobin | omg |
| 06:06.51 | Wobin | http://www.ticketmaster.com.au/artist/734537 |
| 06:07.04 | Wobin | it's like the 80's exploded in my mouth |
| 06:07.47 | Jamash | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhUcSbbURyc |
| 06:08.23 | Jinivus|atWork | http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/career-articles-how_playing_video_games_can_boost_your_career-1372 |
| 06:08.31 | Jinivus|atWork | ilold |
| 06:17.03 | Fisker | slaps Wobin around a bit with a large trout |
| 06:17.10 | Dagmar | Wobin: You should probably brush |
| 06:17.18 | Fisker | she looks like a bitch Wobin |
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| 06:17.57 | Dagmar | I'm kinda impressed there's anyone still wanting to use TicketBastards |
| 06:19.00 | Jamash | hmm, blizzard offering pre-download for digital copies of SCII |
| 06:19.32 | Jamash | it's like steam, except not as convenient! |
| 06:19.46 | Fisker | oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooold |
| 06:19.49 | Fisker | and yeah Jamash |
| 06:20.05 | Fisker | it's kinda fail how little they've been able to improve their online shit etc. |
| 06:20.20 | Jamash | they should just license steam imo |
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| 06:20.48 | Jamash | or buy valve, I don't care |
| 06:21.12 | Cide | gl with that |
| 06:21.45 | Fisker | heh |
| 06:21.49 | Fisker | agree with cid |
| 06:21.51 | Fisker | Cide |
| 06:22.08 | Fisker | Valve probably won't ever get bought out by Activision Blizzard |
| 06:22.29 | Jamash | I'm not saying it'll happen, I'm just saying I'd prefer it to Blizzard half-assing their way to 1/10th of Steam's functionality |
| 06:22.43 | Fisker | true |
| 06:22.46 | Fisker | but it will happen |
| 06:24.13 | Yssaril | bye fisker |
| 06:24.18 | Fisker | no Yssaril |
| 06:24.19 | Fisker | die |
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| 06:25.09 | Dagmar | Hey at least they've got the digital downloads thing more or less right now |
| 06:25.27 | Jamash | Do they? |
| 06:25.33 | Fisker | LOL |
| 06:25.40 | Fisker | it sucks ball |
| 06:25.41 | Fisker | s |
| 06:25.42 | Dagmar | I don't even have to care that Best Buy pointlessly cancelled my pre-order of SCII |
| 06:25.42 | Jamash | Can I set upload/download/connection limits in Blizzard Downloader? |
| 06:26.00 | Jamash | Can I control what ports the Blizzard Downloader uses? |
| 06:26.08 | Wobin | Jamash: no |
| 06:26.16 | Wobin | unless you apply them externally |
| 06:26.20 | Dagmar | By my standard of "right" they have to 1) let you download it, and 2) let you re-download it later if you accidentally erase your disks or something |
| 06:26.23 | Arrowmaster | im going to have to check my best buy preorder, i dont remember if i got delivery or instore pickup |
| 06:26.24 | Wobin | or just get the torrents |
| 06:26.34 | Dagmar | Steam is the only people who seem to have gotten that right until now |
| 06:26.58 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: THey actually cancelled a crapton of pre-orders mistakenly, so you should check that |
| 06:26.59 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: youve been able to download the full wow client since TBC came out |
| 06:27.04 | Jamash | I'm not saying that the Blizzard Downloader is terrible (although it used to be) but it's still not what I'd call "good" |
| 06:27.14 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Yeah, I know |
| 06:27.52 | Dagmar | Practically everyone else (and especially EA) either only let you download the damn game you bought once, or they want to charge you extra for being able to redownload it later |
| 06:28.20 | Jamash | I would never buy a game from a download service that did that |
| 06:28.34 | Dagmar | Just steer clear of EA's digital downloads then |
| 06:28.44 | Jamash | sounds good to me |
| 06:28.53 | Dagmar | I'm still wrangling my various EA accounts together because of the stupid change they made |
| 06:28.58 | Trela | Apple is the same way with any thing on iTunes. Lost it? Too bad. |
| 06:29.08 | Arrowmaster | really? |
| 06:29.13 | Trela | Yes, really. |
| 06:29.13 | Dagmar | Trela: Yeah that's just crazy |
| 06:29.15 | Jamash | I uninstalled iTunes and am happy with this decision |
| 06:29.30 | Trela | They do have a "redownload option", but you have to email them and hope they say yes. |
| 06:29.42 | Dagmar | Keeping track of that stuff on their side is a huge value-add for what resources it takes up |
| 06:29.52 | Arrowmaster | ive never used itunes but i would have thought they stored info on what you got and let you redownload |
| 06:30.08 | Trela | Arrowmaster: They do store it. |
| 06:30.54 | Arrowmaster | damnit i cant see what shipping method my best buy preorder is |
| 06:31.03 | Fisker | anyway free lulz |
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| 06:31.14 | Fisker | www.direct2drive.co.uk/9649/product/Buy-Mafia-II-Download <-herp derp |
| 06:31.16 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Well, at least it's still there |
| 06:31.36 | Arrowmaster | its free but ive got a silver rewardzone so all standard shipping is free |
| 06:32.15 | Dagmar | On BB's CS forum they even tried to say that everyone whose pre-order had been mistakenly cancelled was being offered a $10 gift coupon |
| 06:32.18 | Jamash | Amazon claims my SCII preorder should get here on the day |
| 06:32.19 | Dagmar | Did I get that email? No. |
| 06:32.29 | Fisker | i might get SC2 before release ;3 |
| 06:32.32 | Jamash | I guess they're shipping it in advance? |
| 06:32.59 | Dagmar | Jamash: Yeah GameStop can't really promise me they'll still be open at 1am, and i'll be damned if I'm getting up before 10am on my off day, so the digital download thing works fine |
| 06:33.08 | Dagmar | BY the time I get up, it'll be ready |
| 06:33.26 | Dagmar | ...the servers might even be working by then. :) |
| 06:33.37 | Shadowed | don't worry |
| 06:33.43 | Shadowed | servers won't be up till the 28th |
| 06:33.45 | Jamash | Amazon, you did not just recommend The Wicker Man Two Disc Special Edition to me. |
| 06:33.59 | Fisker | 27th Shadowed |
| 06:34.03 | Shadowed | ... |
| 06:34.10 | foxlit | whoosh, Fisker. |
| 06:34.14 | foxlit | whoosh. |
| 06:34.19 | Fisker | fap, foxlit. |
| 06:34.20 | Fisker | fap. |
| 06:34.25 | Arrowmaster | maybe i can change my preorder to instore pickup |
| 06:34.45 | Fisker | and i got it foxlit imma just trollin etc. |
| 06:34.46 | Arrowmaster | only reason i preordered online was because they were not taking any preorders at all for the CE instore |
| 06:34.52 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Of that I'm pretty sure they can do it, but you'll need to call them |
| 06:34.57 | Fisker | Besides you can always play offline |
| 06:35.28 | Dagmar | Fisker: It's the auth servers that I suspect may be taking a beating on release day |
| 06:35.52 | Dagmar | You know, the things that the client contacts before telling you "Hell, it's not even time yet!" |
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| 06:36.19 | Jamash | I'm going to be playing the campaign so I don't really care |
| 06:36.33 | Arrowmaster | you cant save the campaign offline |
| 06:36.38 | foxlit | Jamash: you still need the magic number, though |
| 06:36.40 | Jamash | what |
| 06:36.44 | Arrowmaster | from what i heard |
| 06:36.49 | foxlit | [citation needed] |
| 06:39.18 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: WHo needs to save? |
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| 06:40.13 | Arrowmaster | should i pickup Final Fantasy XIII for $19.99? |
| 06:40.23 | Mike-N-Go | No |
| 06:40.29 | Arrowmaster | didnt think so |
| 06:40.41 | Mike-N-Go | Any deviation from wow is shameful. |
| 06:40.54 | Arrowmaster | i havent played wow for over a year and a half |
| 06:40.54 | Dagmar | Wait for it to drop to say, $9 |
| 06:41.17 | Arrowmaster | could probably import a japanise version for that much |
| 06:41.18 | Mike-N-Go | I have not played wow since January. |
| 06:41.46 | Arrowmaster | they were being sold brand new in japan for less than half of the original price before the rest of the world even had it |
| 06:41.54 | kd3 | perhaps there's a reason why the newest final fantasy has dropped to bargain bin prices? |
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| 06:42.08 | Arrowmaster | kd3: yes its the same reason i dont have it yet |
| 06:46.03 | Fisker | slaps kd3 around a bit with a large trout |
| 06:46.13 | Jamash | they're putting Amaterasu in MvC3? |
| 06:48.51 | Fisker | goodbye cruel kd3 |
| 06:48.57 | Fisker | goodbye cruel Jamash |
| 06:49.04 | Jamash | goodbye cruel Fisker |
| 06:49.39 | Fisker | i'm not cruel :( |
| 06:49.40 | Fisker | bai |
| 06:50.50 | Jamash | <Fisker> i just killed your mom |
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| 07:07.35 | Mike-N-Go | What is before beta? |
| 07:07.45 | Mike-N-Go | alfa? |
| 07:08.00 | DesertDwarf | alpha |
| 07:08.22 | Mike-N-Go | thanks, forgot how to spell it.. |
| 07:08.27 | DesertDwarf | np :-) |
| 07:17.54 | Fisker | slaps Jamash around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:18.13 | Jamash | that didn't last long |
| 07:18.19 | Jerub | http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l5u3lhTbrc1qzoanto1_400.jpg |
| 07:19.03 | Jamash | they didn't mention the triple exclamation marks |
| 07:19.13 | Jinivus|zZz | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:19.57 | Jinivus | slaps kd3 around a bit with a large trout |
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| 07:23.26 | Jerub | http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z167/Great_WhiteSnark/Kids_Chun-Li_Costume.jpg |
| 07:24.16 | Fisker | old |
| 07:24.32 | DesertDwarf | Thanks for the link, Jerub. I hadn't seen it. |
| 07:24.44 | Fisker | no DesertDwarf |
| 07:24.44 | Fisker | old |
| 07:24.57 | DesertDwarf | Yes, I know I'm old. |
| 07:25.07 | Fisker | I disagree |
| 07:25.40 | DesertDwarf | It's definitely your right to be disagreeable. In fact, it's probably your nature. :) |
| 07:26.50 | Fisker | I disagree |
| 07:26.54 | Jamash | I agree |
| 07:27.09 | Fisker | Thank you Jamash |
| 07:27.10 | Jamash | No |
| 07:27.29 | Fisker | Yes |
| 07:27.35 | Jamash | Olives |
| 07:27.59 | mikma | poop. wassup fisker? |
| 07:28.04 | Fisker | soup mikma |
| 07:28.12 | Fisker | waiting for my SC2 preorder to ship |
| 07:28.22 | mikma | is it delicious? |
| 07:28.30 | mikma | soup, not sc2 |
| 07:28.52 | Fisker | soup is always delicious |
| 07:29.09 | mikma | mushroomsoup ain't =/ |
| 07:29.49 | Jamash | blasphemy |
| 07:30.19 | mikma | i bought a new knife. demoman told me after i cut some dynamite with it that its gonna be full of rust tomorrow =D |
| 07:30.36 | Fisker | mikma is spy |
| 07:30.37 | mikma | dynamit will eat the shitty metal away |
| 07:30.42 | Jamash | you take cooking advice from a team fortress two character? |
| 07:30.47 | mikma | now my knife stinks. |
| 07:30.50 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 07:31.21 | Jamash | also, why were you eating dynamite? |
| 07:31.34 | mikma | yeah, we just cook up some rocksoup |
| 07:32.15 | mikma | i'm sad to tell you guys that the rock didn't make it. he just flatlined no matter how much i shoched it with detonator |
| 07:33.59 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/louhinta/14072010020.mp4 |
| 07:34.06 | mikma | pretty much that happened |
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| 07:37.38 | Jamash | burp |
| 07:37.47 | Fisker | slaps kd3 around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:37.49 | Fisker | slaps Jamash around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:38.13 | Jamash | eats the trout with some fava beans and a nice chianti. |
| 07:38.31 | Maldivia | *yawn* |
| 07:38.39 | Mirrormn|L | apt is downloading at 5KB/s blaaaaaaah |
| 07:38.45 | Jamash | metatables make me angry |
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| 07:39.37 | Mirrormn|L | why, jamash? |
| 07:39.48 | Mirrormn|L | metatables are lovely |
| 07:39.54 | Jamash | IDGI |
| 07:40.53 | Maldivia | too meta for you? |
| 07:41.10 | Jamash | I long for the elegance and simplicity of perl's object model |
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| 07:41.19 | Fisker | slaps Jamash around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:41.25 | Jamash | deserved that one. |
| 07:41.59 | Maldivia | elegance and simplicitity... now there are two words you don't see very often in the same sentence as perl |
| 07:42.15 | Jamash | yeah huh |
| 07:42.46 | Maldivia | or well, in the case of "simplicitity" you just don't see it often :P |
| 07:49.58 | Fisker | slaps Maldivia around a bit with a large trout |
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| 07:59.17 | Fisker | Maldivia |
| 07:59.18 | Fisker | give me sc2 |
| 07:59.19 | Torhal | stabs Fisker with spider silk. |
| 07:59.51 | foxlit | gr |
| 08:00.32 | Jerub | fsking spider silk |
| 08:01.28 | Fisker | that's what she said |
| 08:01.43 | foxlit | lua> t = {"foo/bar", "foo/baz", "foo/qux/quux", "bar", "foobar"} table.sort(t, function(a,b) local dd = select(2, b:gsub("/", "")) - select(2,a:gsub("/")); if dd == 0 then return a < b end return dd < 0 end for i=1,#t do print(t); end |
| 08:01.44 | lua_bot | foxlit: luabot:1: ')' expected near 'for' |
| 08:02.11 | foxlit | lua> t = {"foo/bar", "foo/baz", "foo/qux/quux", "bar", "foobar"} table.sort(t, function(a,b) local dd = select(2, b:gsub("/", "")) - select(2,a:gsub("/")); if dd == 0 then return a < b end return dd < 0 end) for i=1,#t do print(t); end |
| 08:02.11 | lua_bot | foxlit: luabot:1: bad argument #2 to 'gsub' (string/function/table expected) |
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| 08:02.20 | foxlit | lua> t = {"foo/bar", "foo/baz", "foo/qux/quux", "bar", "foobar"} table.sort(t, function(a,b) local dd = select(2, b:gsub("/", "")) - select(2,a:gsub("/", "")); if dd == 0 then return a < b end return dd < 0 end) for i=1,#t do print(t); end |
| 08:02.20 | lua_bot | foxlit: table: 0x862bc98, table: 0x862bc98, table: 0x862bc98, table: 0x862bc98, table: 0x862bc98 |
| 08:02.29 | foxlit | I clearly should rehearse that beforehand :/ |
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| 08:02.34 | foxlit | lua> t = {"foo/bar", "foo/baz", "foo/qux/quux", "bar", "foobar"} table.sort(t, function(a,b) local dd = select(2, b:gsub("/", "")) - select(2,a:gsub("/", "")); if dd == 0 then return a < b end return dd < 0 end) for i=1,#t do print(t[i]); end |
| 08:02.34 | lua_bot | foxlit: foo/qux/quux, foo/bar, foo/baz, bar, foobar |
| 08:03.25 | foxlit | lua> t = {"foo/bar", "foo/baz", "hoo/qux/quux", "bar", "foobar"} table.sort(t, function(a,b) local dd = select(2, b:gsub("/", "")) - select(2,a:gsub("/", "")); if dd == 0 then return a < b end return dd < 0 end) for i=1,#t do print(t[i]); end |
| 08:03.25 | lua_bot | foxlit: hoo/qux/quux, foo/bar, foo/baz, bar, foobar |
| 08:03.35 | Jamash | what are you trying to do, foxlit? |
| 08:03.40 | Fisker | slaps Jamash around a bit with a large trout |
| 08:03.47 | foxlit | Suppose I have a list of file paths, Jamash |
| 08:04.01 | Fisker | suppose i have a lot of trouts |
| 08:04.37 | foxlit | I do not, however, have a list of directories |
| 08:05.04 | foxlit | What I want to do is to sort the file paths so as to display a directory tree with nested directories coming before files in a particular directory. |
| 08:05.40 | foxlit | So the proper order would be foo/bar, foo/baz, hoo/qux/quux, bar, foobar |
| 08:05.43 | Jamash | so you're sorting on the number of directory seperators |
| 08:05.55 | foxlit | Which is flawed per the above example |
| 08:06.06 | Jamash | recursion imo |
| 08:06.49 | Wobin | imo, sort alphabetically |
| 08:06.50 | Wobin | then reverse |
| 08:07.15 | Jamash | slaps Wobin around a bit with a large trout |
| 08:07.22 | foxlit | Wobin: I don't think that solves the problem. |
| 08:07.29 | Wobin | slaps Jamash around with a bit of Fisker |
| 08:07.29 | Jamash | no it doesn't |
| 08:07.33 | Jamash | kinky |
| 08:07.34 | Fisker | Wobin |
| 08:07.39 | Wobin | Fisker: |
| 08:07.44 | Fisker | don't make me hack your SC2 account and upload a 2girls1cup map |
| 08:07.53 | Wobin | feel free |
| 08:07.59 | Fisker | oh i will |
| 08:08.31 | Wobin | foxlit: I'm still not clear on what you're after |
| 08:08.52 | foxlit | Wobin: I basically want to display a directory tree |
| 08:09.01 | Fisker | a tree of directories |
| 08:09.15 | Wobin | a directree |
| 08:09.22 | foxlit | Out of a list of file paths. To simplify things, I'm thinking of sorting the file paths in a particular order. |
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| 08:11.18 | Wobin | filter out non directory files and sort separately |
| 08:11.30 | Wobin | two groups, both alphabetical, then tacked together |
| 08:12.35 | foxlit | That'd end up in recursion, though |
| 08:13.07 | foxlit | (If there are multiple nested directories, I'd have to repeat the procedure for each one) |
| 08:13.56 | Jamash | there's no way to avoid recursion |
| 08:14.12 | Wobin | eh? |
| 08:14.18 | Fisker | btw |
| 08:14.22 | foxlit | That's a bit pessimistic |
| 08:14.24 | Jamash | it's a recursive problem |
| 08:14.25 | Fisker | access the root directory |
| 08:14.31 | Wobin | are you traversing the directories |
| 08:14.36 | Jamash | it's not pessimistic, it's factual |
| 08:14.38 | Wobin | or do you have a list of files |
| 08:14.46 | foxlit | Wobin: list of paths |
| 08:14.58 | Wobin | so how does it end in recursion? |
| 08:15.07 | Wobin | you're sorting strings |
| 08:15.13 | Jamash | no he isn't |
| 08:15.28 | Wobin | he's not? |
| 08:15.40 | foxlit | What you're suggesting, as I understand it, is that I split off the /file.txt paths into a separate array and sort those separately |
| 08:15.54 | Legorol | Is it possible to have more than one SC2 keys attached to the same b.net account and to be logged in twice (or more) simultaneously to b.net? |
| 08:15.57 | Wobin | yes |
| 08:16.01 | Wobin | (to fox) |
| 08:16.09 | Fisker | yes Legorol |
| 08:16.12 | Fisker | (to Legorol) |
| 08:16.22 | Wobin | (are you sure?) |
| 08:16.22 | Legorol | will you be able to play against/with yourself? |
| 08:16.31 | Fisker | (not really Wobin) |
| 08:16.36 | Jamash | starcraft multiboxing ololololol |
| 08:16.37 | Fisker | Legorol unlikely |
| 08:16.39 | foxlit | The problem is then what you do with /a/b/c.txt and /a/a.txt |
| 08:16.54 | Legorol | Fisker: :( you crush my world |
| 08:17.05 | Wobin | well, /a/a.txt gets sorted before /a/b/c.txt |
| 08:17.29 | Wobin | oh, you want all directories first |
| 08:17.41 | Legorol | bah, to Collector's Edition or not to Collector's Edition, that is the question |
| 08:17.42 | Wobin | yeah =P happy recursing =) |
| 08:17.44 | foxlit | Yep. |
| 08:18.06 | Jamash | Legorol: Yes |
| 08:18.11 | Fisker | CE indeed |
| 08:18.16 | Fisker | PET! |
| 08:18.18 | foxlit | Jamash: it's not pessimistic, it's factual << However, I think I can get away with c-style string comparisons |
| 08:18.29 | Jamash | OR CAN YOU? |
| 08:18.41 | Jamash | DUN DUN DUN |
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| 08:19.06 | Legorol | Fisker: i don't think i'd use the mini Thor in WoW, doesn't fit with the universe |
| 08:19.15 | Arrowmaster | foxlit: patch ls for me so ls -v obeys LC_COLLATE |
| 08:19.30 | Fisker | sure does Legorol |
| 08:19.31 | foxlit | what's LC_COLLATE? |
| 08:19.39 | Fisker | Starcraft = Warcraft universe in the future |
| 08:19.43 | Legorol | also, i'm wondering about the SC1 that comes with the CE |
| 08:19.52 | Jamash | lil'xt does but thor doesn't? |
| 08:19.55 | Arrowmaster | foxlit: controls sorting |
| 08:20.01 | Legorol | i already have SC1 on my bnet account, is it pointless to register a second one on there? |
| 08:20.05 | Jamash | probably |
| 08:20.10 | Jamash | sell it on ebay imo |
| 08:20.10 | Legorol | say i want a friend of mine to play with me |
| 08:20.10 | Fisker | basically Legorol |
| 08:20.26 | foxlit | Who'd play SC1 when you can have SC2? |
| 08:20.28 | Legorol | should i give the key to him so he can link it to his b.net account instead |
| 08:20.31 | foxlit | SC2 is clearly superior: it has a 2. |
| 08:20.36 | Jamash | Legorol: Yes |
| 08:20.37 | Fisker | good idea Legorol |
| 08:20.40 | Arrowmaster | foxlit: if you are doing this on a posix system you might just be able to use LC_COLLATE and ls |
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| 08:20.56 | Legorol | what i don't know is, whether you can link things like the pet reward separately from the copy of SC1 |
| 08:21.00 | foxlit | Arrowmaster: except the file structure I'm sorting does not exist. |
| 08:21.14 | Legorol | if you are forced to link SC1 to the same account as the pet, then it's pointless |
| 08:21.27 | Legorol | pointless for me that is |
| 08:21.29 | Jamash | almost certainly different codes |
| 08:21.35 | Legorol | you never know |
| 08:21.47 | foxlit | They could just make everything dependent on your SC2 collector's auth. |
| 08:21.51 | Legorol | it's possible there's only one code in the box, which enables your b.net account for SC1, SC2 and pet |
| 08:21.58 | Legorol | yah what foxlit said |
| 08:22.04 | Jamash | this is my dubious face -> :-/ |
| 08:22.15 | Legorol | this is my worried face :S |
| 08:22.26 | Fisker | Legorol you can just give him your other key |
| 08:22.28 | Fisker | newb |
| 08:22.31 | Jamash | this is my Fisker face: %X |
| 08:22.32 | Legorol | basically, i have someone i want to play SC1 with, but they won't play SC2 |
| 08:22.45 | Jamash | need new friends imo |
| 08:22.46 | Legorol | if i could be sure that i can give him the SC1 key on the stick then it's worth for me to buy the CE |
| 08:22.50 | Legorol | lol Jamash, true that |
| 08:23.18 | Fisker | Legorol l2read |
| 08:23.25 | jnwhiteh | Can someone please explain to me why the Google Street View thing is even a story? People left their private wireless networks unencrypted. How is this Google's fault? |
| 08:23.54 | Legorol | I think the issue is that Google actually went into those networks. |
| 08:23.56 | Fisker | Because they shouldn't have taken payload data to begin with |
| 08:24.03 | Dagmar | jnwhute: It's not. |
| 08:24.09 | Legorol | Just because you are dumb and you don't encrypt it doesn't mean a respectable corporation is allowed to trespass it. |
| 08:24.19 | Legorol | Just like you not locking your door doesn't mean they can walk inside |
| 08:24.35 | Dagmar | Google didn't actually go into any networks that I'm awarre of |
| 08:24.41 | Fisker | Just because i'm standing on the top of a tall building with a megaphone shouting that i'm a moron does not mean that anyone is allowed to hear it |
| 08:24.46 | Jamash | cost of sc1 battle chest = $20 |
| 08:24.49 | Fisker | they didn't Dagmar |
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| 08:25.01 | Fisker | i figure it's just an easier way of collecting data |
| 08:25.01 | Legorol | then i misunderstood the story |
| 08:25.02 | Arrowmaster | comparing wireless to a front door is just silly |
| 08:25.18 | Legorol | Arrowmaster: i disagree, it's the same thing |
| 08:25.24 | Arrowmaster | no its not |
| 08:25.34 | Dagmar | They were literally just catching raw packets, from something of another project that didn't really get off the ground |
| 08:25.34 | Legorol | both your responsibiliity to secure, you are dumb if you don't, and others are not supposed to enter but will if they can |
| 08:25.37 | Fisker | I'm guessing it's faster and more reliable to work with the packets rather than trying to use the official protocol for scanning and establishing connections |
| 08:25.44 | Jamash | cost of SCII CE - cost of regular SCII = $50 |
| 08:25.59 | Legorol | Jamash: the cost ratios are different here in EU |
| 08:26.17 | Arrowmaster | Legorol: comparing wireless to talking in public and then getting angry when people overhear you is a better comparison |
| 08:26.27 | Fisker | btw jnwhiteh |
| 08:26.31 | Dagmar | It's about as effective a method of episonage as being delivered four or five slivers of a bag full of cross-cut shredded document.s |
| 08:26.32 | Fisker | you know what's hilarious? |
| 08:26.49 | Fisker | Germany is considering making it illegal to have open wirelesss hotspots(if they haven't already) |
| 08:26.54 | Fisker | Google's map would show all open hotspots |
| 08:26.56 | Fisker | KACHING |
| 08:26.57 | Legorol | Arrowmaster: i don't think people will agree with you that they are intending to talk in public when they place devices (with relatively limited range) inside their homes |
| 08:26.58 | jnwhiteh | Legorol: How is observing open traffic, i.e. radio waves, television signals, 'trespassing?' |
| 08:26.59 | Dagmar | Fisker: Well, you don't really have to do any work to catch raw, unencrypted packets. |
| 08:27.07 | Fisker | exactly Dagmar |
| 08:27.16 | Jamash | I think the standing on a rooftop yelling "MY CREDIT CARD NUMBER AND EXPIRATION DATE ARE XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX 04/2013" analogy is fairly apt |
| 08:27.18 | jnwhiteh | I can buy consumer radio and 'trespass' on your private communications |
| 08:27.36 | jnwhiteh | I fail to see how this is any different |
| 08:27.37 | Dagmar | Jamash: Cept everyone uses ssl heh |
| 08:27.50 | Legorol | jnwhiteh: listening to police frequencies is illegal in some countries, no? |
| 08:28.02 | Jamash | if you define "everyone" as "not everyone", yeah |
| 08:28.03 | jnwhiteh | I'm sure it's illegal somewhere |
| 08:28.05 | Arrowmaster | Legorol: not that i know of, unless they were encrypted |
| 08:28.11 | jnwhiteh | that doesn't mean it's right |
| 08:28.12 | jnwhiteh | they mapped wireless mac addresses to GPS locations with the information, that's it. |
| 08:28.29 | jnwhiteh | with publicly available information. |
| 08:28.29 | Legorol | interesting |
| 08:28.32 | Dagmar | It's illegal in most of the US, although it's not exactly enforceable |
| 08:28.39 | Arrowmaster | its illegal in the US to transmit on police frequencies but you can listen all you want |
| 08:28.43 | jnwhiteh | information that your iPhone and Android phones already do for you |
| 08:28.48 | Dagmar | ...and most police forces that care are no longer using simple analog |
| 08:28.53 | Jamash | there are 8 SSIDs broadcasting within my laptop's range |
| 08:28.53 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 08:29.02 | Fisker | and that, at the very least, is very illegal Dagmar |
| 08:29.08 | jnwhiteh | gee, I'm at this location on GPS wiht this accuracy, and I'm connected to this Mac address. Therefore, this MAc address must be within x meters of my current location |
| 08:29.10 | Fisker | That's how it is here |
| 08:29.19 | Legorol | i think there are a couple of separate issues here. legality is one thing. consumer expectation is another. |
| 08:29.28 | jnwhiteh | therefore when another user connects to this MAC address, I can guess his location without needing further information |
| 08:29.32 | Jamash | consumers are idiots |
| 08:29.33 | jnwhiteh | there is no consumer here |
| 08:29.34 | Fisker | I can listen to whatever channels i want, but they got a digital encrypted channel that i can't listen to, and breaking that encryption is illegal |
| 08:29.35 | Legorol | in most consumers' minds, using a wifi at home isn't supposed to be public |
| 08:29.38 | Dagmar | WEll, even consumer expectation isn't amounting to much in this case |
| 08:29.39 | jnwhiteh | so I fail to see how that's an issue |
| 08:29.42 | Legorol | they are dumb for not securing it, for sure |
| 08:29.51 | Jamash | Legorol: Irrelevant |
| 08:29.51 | Legorol | but i wouldn't call it transmitting in public |
| 08:29.52 | jnwhiteh | No less dumb than having a private conversation on a CB radio |
| 08:29.58 | jnwhiteh | it IS transmitting in public |
| 08:30.00 | Jamash | The question is whether they can sue google |
| 08:30.06 | jnwhiteh | wireless router manufacturer's make this quite clear |
| 08:30.12 | jnwhiteh | and 'not reading the warnings' is not a defense. |
| 08:30.14 | Dagmar | If they didn't even have WEP on, they were utterly unaware of anything about how it works, or they didn't care |
| 08:30.32 | Dagmar | They can sue Google, but it won't amount to much. |
| 08:30.40 | jnwhiteh | I just don't understand how ANY of this is 'news' |
| 08:30.45 | Arrowmaster | its not |
| 08:30.50 | Dagmar | Right, I should have explained better earlier |
| 08:30.54 | jnwhiteh | the world seems to disagree with you =) |
| 08:30.54 | Arrowmaster | but you know how 'news' is now adays |
| 08:30.54 | Jamash | if google was cracking WEP passwords that would be one thing, but picking up unencrypted data is a total non-issue |
| 08:31.09 | Dagmar | The sole reason it's news is because decrepit US lawmakers who can barely manage their email heard about it |
| 08:31.15 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 08:31.16 | Legorol | dagmar: unfortunately stupidity doesn't necessarily prevent you from sueing. see hot coffee cup + lap |
| 08:31.19 | jnwhiteh | the Germans were much more up in arms |
| 08:31.19 | jnwhiteh | first |
| 08:31.20 | Jamash | not only did they pick it up by accident, they never used it |
| 08:31.23 | jnwhiteh | that's what surprises me. |
| 08:31.24 | Dagmar | They thought it *must* be illegal because they have no clue about how anything actually works. |
| 08:31.27 | Arrowmaster | now 'news' is what people are saying on twitter and what the hot new viral video is |
| 08:31.35 | jnwhiteh | well they didn't quite 'pick it up by accident' |
| 08:31.36 | Dagmar | THEY got all atwitter about it, and *that* is why it became a "story" |
| 08:31.45 | jnwhiteh | it was easier to grab the packets than it was to process them in realtime |
| 08:31.55 | jnwhiteh | everyone knew what that means |
| 08:31.59 | Jamash | they picked it up by accident |
| 08:32.08 | jnwhiteh | ... |
| 08:32.12 | Jamash | as in, unintentionally |
| 08:32.13 | Arrowmaster | Legorol: in that case it really was mcdonalds fault, their coffee was so hot it weakened the cup/lid |
| 08:32.14 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 08:32.19 | Jamash | have you read anything about this case? |
| 08:32.21 | jnwhiteh | they had intent to track mac addresses around them |
| 08:32.26 | Dagmar | jnwhiteh: The code that led to that was actually an experiment to see how well you could use ESSIDs to guess your location, in addition to simple statistics |
| 08:32.33 | jnwhiteh | I have, but I've never quite understood/believed that defense. |
| 08:32.33 | Jamash | yes, and they picked up payload data by accident |
| 08:33.06 | Dagmar | Yeah because if you just grab a few raw packets here and there and dump them to disk you don't use much power |
| 08:33.23 | Dagmar | They weren't capturing a *continuous stream* |
| 08:33.46 | Dagmar | THat's why it's not a big deal |
| 08:34.04 | Fisker | the only reason why this is still an issue is because Mail providers are retarded |
| 08:34.07 | jnwhiteh | Jamash: I'd heard that but not seem the specifics of how it was an 'accident', interesting. |
| 08:34.20 | Jamash | basically people who are too stupid to use even the most braindead encryption are mad that someone did something that doesn't effect them |
| 08:34.20 | Fisker | we want pop3 over ssl and we want it now |
| 08:34.39 | foxlit | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:34.45 | Jamash | and now they want to sue _purely_ because google has deep pockets |
| 08:34.56 | Dagmar | Jamash++ |
| 08:35.01 | Arrowmaster | jnwhiteh: im guessing they ment to only capture the frame headers but recorded the frame data too |
| 08:35.11 | jnwhiteh | *nod* |
| 08:35.23 | Arrowmaster | and thats why they werent even aware of it |
| 08:35.25 | Dagmar | But only a small number per _minute_ |
| 08:35.48 | Dagmar | I meant it when I said two or three shards from a shredder bag |
| 08:36.12 | Jamash | http://static.googleusercontent.com/external_content/untrusted_dlcp/www.google.com/en/us/googleblogs/pdfs/friedberg_sourcecode_analysis_060910.pdf |
| 08:36.48 | Jamash | a company I worked for at one time who shall remain nameless used its shredded financial documents as packing material for shipping products to customers |
| 08:36.49 | jnwhiteh | HOLY FUCK CURSE USE AKISMET OR FUCKING SOMETHING TO HAM/SPAM CHECK YOUR USER COMMENTS BEFORE POSTING THEM AND WASTING MY TIME. I SUGGEST mollom.com. THANK YOU. |
| 08:36.56 | Fisker | Anyway |
| 08:37.00 | Fisker | ANYWAY |
| 08:37.14 | Fisker | Open wireless network = free access |
| 08:37.23 | Fisker | that's how it should be |
| 08:37.47 | Jamash | if I put a bucket of money on my front porch with a sign on it that says "FREE MONEY" and someone comes and takes it can I sue them? |
| 08:37.52 | Fisker | Instead of fining people for having open wireless networks, especially since they could be running a hotspot |
| 08:38.36 | Dagmar | hehe |
| 08:38.38 | Arrowmaster | Jamash: i dont know but if you put it just inside your front door you can shoot them |
| 08:38.40 | jnwhiteh | Jamash: thanks. |
| 08:38.53 | Jamash | oh btw you can't put more than one SC1 account on a Bnet account |
| 08:39.21 | Mike-N-Go | When's the next batch of keys coming? |
| 08:39.29 | Shadowed | When they arrive :P |
| 08:39.30 | jnwhiteh | Mike-N-Go: when they come. |
| 08:39.34 | Shadowed | too slow! |
| 08:39.40 | Mike-N-Go | jnwhiteh: Right answer.. |
| 08:39.45 | Shadowed | Soon(tm) is about as much as we know right now |
| 08:39.51 | Fisker | why not Jamash ? |
| 08:40.19 | Jamash | Battle.net says no |
| 08:41.10 | Jamash | "License limits reached. You already have the maximum number of StarCraft licenses for this game region." |
| 08:41.24 | Fisker | weird |
| 08:41.41 | Fisker | i recall seeing people with several diablo licenses and warcraft 3 licenses |
| 08:41.47 | Jamash | did I have a stroke or does Battle.net look completely different than it did like 8 hours ago? |
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| 08:42.05 | Trela | lua: string.match("[TriviaBot]: Q61: Who is Highlord Mograine's son?", "\[.*?\]: ?Q?\d{1,3}: ?(.*)") |
| 08:42.11 | Trela | !lua string.match("[TriviaBot]: Q61: Who is Highlord Mograine's son?", "\[.*?\]: ?Q?\d{1,3}: ?(.*)") |
| 08:42.11 | batbot | Trela: > nil |
| 08:42.40 | Trela | !lua string.match("[TriviaBot]: Q61: Who is Highlord Mograine's son?", "\[\w?\]: ?Q?\d{1,3}: ?(.*)") |
| 08:42.40 | batbot | Trela: > nil |
| 08:42.45 | jnwhiteh | can you do that in PMs? |
| 08:42.51 | Trela | You can? |
| 08:42.52 | jnwhiteh | or your local interpreter? |
| 08:42.55 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 08:42.57 | Trela | :D |
| 08:43.03 | Trela | I has no lua. D: |
| 08:43.03 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:43.06 | Jamash | why install a local interpreter when you can spam irc? |
| 08:43.16 | Trela | EXACTLY! |
| 08:43.16 | jnwhiteh | it's true, gives me someone to ban :P |
| 08:43.21 | Trela | Oh no! |
| 08:43.28 | Jamash | I'll ban your face |
| 08:43.58 | jnwhiteh | http://eu.battle.net/en/games/d3 |
| 08:43.59 | Jamash | but seriously did they overhaul the entire battle.net appearance? |
| 08:44.02 | jnwhiteh | what is the point of this page |
| 08:44.06 | jnwhiteh | Jamash: it appears so to me, yes. |
| 08:44.15 | Arrowmaster | Trela: fyi lua patterns are not regexp |
| 08:44.16 | Shadowed | the new battle.net UI is awful |
| 08:44.19 | Shadowed | I don't know why they changed it |
| 08:44.23 | Trela | Arrowmaster: ...ARGH. |
| 08:44.35 | jnwhiteh | Trela: alternatively you can join #luabot |
| 08:44.43 | jnwhiteh | both bots are in there, happy to let you spam them =) |
| 08:45.09 | Trela | Message is fine. :3 |
| 08:45.09 | Jamash | s/not regexp/worthless/ |
| 08:45.34 | Torhal | stabs the new Linux kernel repeatedly. |
| 08:45.35 | jnwhiteh | Jamash: ... |
| 08:45.43 | jnwhiteh | Jamash: you are arguing that lua patterns are useless? |
| 08:45.47 | Jamash | Yes. |
| 08:45.50 | jnwhiteh | remind me to ignore the things you say more often. |
| 08:45.53 | jnwhiteh | Well you're wrong, gratz! |
| 08:46.00 | jnwhiteh | I have a use for them |
| 08:46.04 | Torhal | jnwhiteh: This is coming from the guy who wants to make Lua behave like a math language. |
| 08:46.11 | Jamash | I wrote a parser for the WoW macro syntax using Lua patterns |
| 08:46.12 | Mike-N-Go | Night |
| 08:46.14 | Torhal | :D |
| 08:46.28 | Jamash | it was like slamming my fingers in a car door |
| 08:46.35 | jnwhiteh | 'you're doing it wrong' =) |
| 08:46.45 | Jamash | that's what I told Lua but it didn't listen |
| 08:47.03 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: but lua does behave like a math language |
| 08:47.07 | jnwhiteh | well, given your affinity for regular expressions, I distrust everything you say. |
| 08:47.17 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 08:47.20 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: A specific math language. I forget the name. |
| 08:47.28 | Mike-N-Go | Check out my updated LforLogout at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12420-LforLogout.html#info! |
| 08:47.29 | Torhal | But basically "not like Lua". |
| 08:47.36 | jnwhiteh | no really, writing parsers using Lua patterns requires thinking in a different way. |
| 08:47.46 | Trela | I fail at Lua patterns. D: |
| 08:47.49 | Mike-N-Go | All you do is /l, and you log out that much faster. |
| 08:47.51 | jnwhiteh | Mike-N-Go: doesn't seem very updated. |
| 08:47.59 | jnwhiteh | Mike-N-Go: considering the huge red text on the main page |
| 08:48.06 | jnwhiteh | smells like "I want a beta key' a bit too much to me. |
| 08:48.11 | Mike-N-Go | Did you read above it? |
| 08:48.14 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 08:48.17 | Torhal | So before I updated my kernel, I could get into live one in three times and the beta 100% of the time. Now, they both immediately crash after entering my authenticator code. Yay. |
| 08:48.19 | jnwhiteh | but the text is still there |
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| 08:48.33 | jnwhiteh | so, you updated an unsupported addon that makes a single slash command |
| 08:48.38 | jnwhiteh | that's not eligible for a key |
| 08:48.41 | jnwhiteh | sorry mate |
| 08:48.59 | Jamash | a slash command that is an alias for another slash command |
| 08:49.02 | Mike-N-Go | May a mod confirm? |
| 08:49.03 | Jamash | even better |
| 08:49.10 | jnwhiteh | I _AM_ a mod. |
| 08:49.10 | Torhal | Mike-N-Go: He is a mod. |
| 08:49.12 | jnwhiteh | and I'm telling you this. |
| 08:49.13 | Jamash | I could implement that with both eyes closed |
| 08:49.15 | jnwhiteh | I'm not being rude |
| 08:49.16 | Arrowmaster | Mike-N-Go: he is a mod |
| 08:49.19 | jnwhiteh | but we dont' accept Hello World addons |
| 08:49.36 | foxlit | Your kernel is stealing your codes, clearly |
| 08:49.40 | jnwhiteh | nor do we accept addons that the author has no intentions of updating |
| 08:49.42 | Torhal | Hell, we decided on CF that we won't even allow AddOns which are nothing more than macros with a slash command attached. |
| 08:49.47 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: CONSEQUENCES WILL NEVER BE THE SAME |
| 08:49.57 | Torhal | AHMIGAD |
| 08:50.02 | Mike-N-Go | jnwhiteh: That addon has been there since 02-03-2009. I just updated it for 3.3 |
| 08:50.03 | *** join/#wowuidev abra (~atxlove5@74.61.80.130) |
| 08:50.08 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 08:50.11 | jnwhiteh | it's a Hello World addon |
| 08:50.16 | jnwhiteh | and you have no intentions of supporting it |
| 08:50.34 | jnwhiteh | there's a reason we have conditions in-place |
| 08:50.35 | Trela | member:Trela: @ [string "mh("test" "\d")"]:1: unexpected symbol near 'char(29)' |
| 08:50.40 | Mike-N-Go | What is there to support? It will likely never break. |
| 08:50.44 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 08:50.45 | Trela | Man, these lua bots... fail for some reason. |
| 08:50.49 | jnwhiteh | and thus is not eligible for a key. |
| 08:50.54 | Torhal | "Gief beta plz!" <-- not AddOn author. Not intended test subject. |
| 08:50.56 | Jamash | Mike-N-Go: are you actually lobbying for a beta key with this addon? |
| 08:51.01 | jnwhiteh | and your other addons are out of date |
| 08:51.09 | jnwhiteh | and unsupported |
| 08:51.14 | Mike-N-Go | The reason I brought this up was to ask if it would qualify; thank you for clearing that up. |
| 08:51.20 | jnwhiteh | You are welcome. |
| 08:51.33 | foxlit | Also, what's with 30400? |
| 08:51.37 | Mike-N-Go | goes off to update a non-hello addon. |
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| 08:51.49 | Mike-N-Go | I put the interface number in my version number. |
| 08:51.55 | jnwhiteh | * You must have an active World of Warcraft account. |
| 08:51.55 | jnwhiteh | * You must be an addon author with one or more files on the site that are current to 3.3.x (Plugins/Patches, Compilations & "Hello world" or its equivalent do not count). |
| 08:51.59 | foxlit | Did you recently travel from the future? |
| 08:52.07 | Jamash | cannot suppress giggles |
| 08:52.19 | Mike-N-Go | I had a lapse of judgment , and thought we were at 3400 toc a year ago.. |
| 08:53.35 | Mike-N-Go | jnwhiteh: When I update my http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12383-ExtendedShutdownWarning.html, would that qualify me? |
| 08:53.39 | jnwhiteh | I will also not look kindly on you updating addons and leaving the huge red warning text that you have no intentions of supporting the mod. |
| 08:54.10 | Arrowmaster | jnwhiteh: i do that |
| 08:54.23 | jnwhiteh | Arrowmaster: I don't like you, so problem solved! |
| 08:54.25 | jnwhiteh | also, untrue =( |
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| 08:54.34 | Fisker | we don't take kindly to your kind 'round here Arrowmaster |
| 08:54.47 | Arrowmaster | wait, actually i dont think there is any warning about fubar not being supported anymore |
| 08:55.00 | Arrowmaster | and i dont touch cartographer which does have the warning |
| 08:55.18 | Mike-N-Go | jnwhiteh: Do you like the edit to the text on http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=12420 now? |
| 08:55.34 | jnwhiteh | it's better yes, but still not eligible for a key. |
| 08:55.52 | Mike-N-Go | KK. I will update http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12383-ExtendedShutdownWarning.html |
| 08:55.57 | Jamash | ok, so not quite with my eyes closed, but /run SLASH_LOGOUT5 = "/l" is not rocket science |
| 08:55.59 | Mike-N-Go | Will that one qualify me? |
| 08:56.01 | jnwhiteh | Mike-N-Go: yes, that would be fine. |
| 08:56.06 | jnwhiteh | Mike-N-Go: log in, make sure it works, etc. |
| 08:56.20 | Mike-N-Go | does not have access to WOW atm. |
| 08:56.31 | jnwhiteh | then you're not eligible for a Beta key =) |
| 08:56.31 | Shadowed | Pretty sure you can't even login to beta without having a WoW account active :p |
| 08:56.35 | Jamash | copyright violation imo |
| 08:56.42 | Mike-N-Go | What is a violation? |
| 08:56.48 | Arrowmaster | Shadowed: give me a key and ill test |
| 08:56.52 | Jamash | http://noproblo.dayjo.org/ZeldaSounds/ |
| 08:57.00 | jnwhiteh | Mike-N-Go: You must have an active World of Warcraft account to be eligible for a Beta key. |
| 08:57.02 | Jamash | your sound file |
| 08:57.04 | Shadowed | Arrowmaster: 1234-5678-9101-1213 |
| 08:57.05 | Mike-N-Go | I did not say I did not have an active account. |
| 08:57.09 | Fisker | slaps Shadowed around a bit with a large trout |
| 08:57.15 | Mike-N-Go | I said I do not have access to wow at the moment. |
| 08:57.20 | jnwhiteh | Mike-N-Go: that's fine, I'm just clarifying. |
| 08:57.29 | Mike-N-Go | np |
| 08:57.30 | jnwhiteh | but you can't update the addon without logging in and testing... |
| 08:57.40 | jnwhiteh | someone needs to log in and see that it works properly |
| 08:58.08 | Mike-N-Go | Can someone test my 4 liner LforLogout at http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=12420? |
| 09:00.34 | Mirrormn | wow, I'm dumb |
| 09:01.46 | Mirrormn | apparently, at some point, I copied the source of one of my addons to a different folder and renamed all the file names so they would load as a separate addon, but then left all the source the same |
| 09:01.56 | Jamash | that's special |
| 09:02.18 | Mirrormn | and then just now I was trying to modify the original source, but it wasn't working, turns out it was just getting replaced by the old source in the separate folder |
| 09:02.52 | Jamash | I would call that an own goal |
| 09:03.02 | Mirrormn | pretty much |
| 09:03.03 | Mike-N-Go | "Sound file is from Nintendo's (c) Smash Brothers, provided by HelpTheWretched (http://noproblo.dayjo.org/ZeldaSounds/)." in my readme |
| 09:03.14 | Mike-N-Go | How did I violate the terms of use? |
| 09:03.21 | Jamash | uh, are you nintendo? |
| 09:03.48 | Jamash | because if so I love your work |
| 09:03.56 | Mike-N-Go | Fair use? |
| 09:04.01 | Jamash | "# You certify that either you are the copyright holder of all documents being submitted or have permission to submit them." |
| 09:04.11 | Mike-N-Go | I do own a copy of smash brothers. |
| 09:04.14 | Jamash | ... |
| 09:04.18 | Jamash | Is this guy for real? |
| 09:04.50 | Mike-N-Go | I was not aware that I may have been in violation. |
| 09:05.02 | Mike-N-Go | jnwhiteh: Am I? |
| 09:05.10 | jnwhiteh | I am not a copyright laywer |
| 09:05.13 | Arrowmaster | how long are the sound clips? |
| 09:05.15 | Fisker | what addon is it? |
| 09:05.20 | Jamash | about 1 second |
| 09:05.26 | Mike-N-Go | The sound clip is like 1 second |
| 09:05.58 | Arrowmaster | if any are over 30 seconds then you likely are, but stuff where the original is shorter than 30 seconds i have no clue but im guessing yes |
| 09:06.13 | jnwhiteh | I don't think any of us are laywers here |
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| 09:06.30 | Mike-N-Go | Arrowmaster: What are you talking about? |
| 09:06.41 | Mike-N-Go | WHat is this 30 sec cap? |
| 09:06.44 | Jamash | I'm not arguing you're in violation of copyright law (not a lawyer) but the text on the addon upload page says "copyright holder" or "have permission" |
| 09:06.57 | Arrowmaster | thats not a cap but just a general guideline |
| 09:07.02 | Jamash | And I believe zeldaloot got kicked for that |
| 09:07.08 | Mike-N-Go | Is fair use not 'permission'? |
| 09:07.13 | Jamash | Nope |
| 09:07.15 | Arrowmaster | that using 30 seconds of a longer source is fair use |
| 09:08.08 | Jamash | there is no hard and fast rule |
| 09:08.21 | Fisker | anyway now that we're QQ'ing over 1 second audio clips |
| 09:08.30 | Fisker | what about Bigwigs, DXE, Bugsack, etc? |
| 09:08.32 | Mike-N-Go | jnwhiteh: May you please converse with the other mods, and if I am in error, disable downloads to the addon in question until I remedy. May you do that? |
| 09:08.57 | Mirrormn | hugs jnwhiteh |
| 09:08.59 | jnwhiteh | what addon is being discussed? |
| 09:09.11 | Arrowmaster | Fisker: the bugsack one im not sure, as for bigwigs that is a short 7 second or so clip from a much longer piece |
| 09:09.20 | Mike-N-Go | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12383-ExtendedShutdownWarning.html |
| 09:09.41 | Fisker | Yeah but as said fair use isn't only considered on the length of the clip |
| 09:10.10 | Mike-N-Go | May someone test my mod http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12383-ExtendedShutdownWarning.html and tell me if it is still working? |
| 09:10.31 | Jamash | My recommendation would be to find a sound that is in WoW already so you don't have to include it in the zip file |
| 09:10.34 | Arrowmaster | right, but using the entire clip of a video or sound piece vs using a small part of it does make a difference in determining fair use |
| 09:10.58 | Jamash | see the thing is copyright law isn't at question here, WoWInterface's addon upload policy is |
| 09:11.10 | Fisker | how so? |
| 09:11.32 | Jamash | "# You certify that either you are the copyright holder of all documents being submitted or have permission to submit them." |
| 09:11.42 | jnwhiteh | That's true. |
| 09:11.49 | Fisker | ah with that |
| 09:11.52 | Mike-N-Go | By not having to ask for permission because of fair use, does that not implicate fair use permission? |
| 09:12.09 | Jamash | Fair use is a defense against infringement in a court of law, not a form of permission. |
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| 09:12.29 | jnwhiteh | The issue is whether 'right' is 'permission' |
| 09:12.46 | Mike-N-Go | What is the issue? |
| 09:12.47 | jnwhiteh | under fair use you have the 'right' to use a portion of it under certain circumstances, but that's not necessarily 'permission' |
| 09:12.48 | Jamash | By claiming fair use you're saying "I don't have permission but it's OK" |
| 09:12.49 | jnwhiteh | I'm not sure. |
| 09:13.41 | Fisker | wowi should allow fair use |
| 09:13.54 | Arrowmaster | i would say tell caireen but HOLY SHIT SHE ISNT HERE WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON! |
| 09:14.25 | Mike-N-Go | She DCed this afternoon; never logged back. |
| 09:14.35 | jnwhiteh | We'll discuss it, and let you know later. |
| 09:14.44 | Mirrormn | is there a way to use tabs in chat frames? |
| 09:14.54 | Jamash | yes? |
| 09:14.57 | Mike-N-Go | "Fair use is a doctrine in United States copyright law that allows limited use of copyrighted material without requiring permission from the rights holders" -http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use |
| 09:15.04 | Jamash | oh you mean the tab key, like ^I? |
| 09:15.15 | jnwhiteh | Mike-N-Go: we'll discuss it, as I said. |
| 09:15.22 | Mirrormn | I mean like a tab character, for aligning text |
| 09:15.44 | Mike-N-Go | jnwhiteh: Is it alright if I make a post on the forms about addon's using audio clips of another owner? |
| 09:15.45 | jnwhiteh | there's two questions: 1.) Is it fair use, 2.) Does fair use constitute permission according to our license. |
| 09:15.57 | Fisker | at the very least, if WoWI is to accept "fair use" cases, then you will have to submit an argument for it being fair use |
| 09:15.58 | jnwhiteh | Mike-N-Go: I don't see how that would be constructive |
| 09:16.02 | Fisker | not just "It's fair use so it's ok" |
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| 09:16.13 | Jamash | and then WoWI turns into wikipedia |
| 09:16.23 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 09:16.23 | Jamash | where's a shirik when you need one |
| 09:16.33 | Mike-N-Go | So that is a no? That is why I asked. |
| 09:16.56 | jnwhiteh | I'm not goign to delete the post if you make one, so you certainly have the right to do it. |
| 09:16.59 | Mirrormn | \010 works |
| 09:17.11 | jnwhiteh | I just don't see how it would help at all, since the policy comes from us, so it's not really up for discussion. |
| 09:17.36 | Jamash | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/26227282609/the-maelstrom/ |
| 09:17.38 | Mike-N-Go | That is not what I was implicating; I was asking if you would prefer a form post about the topic. |
| 09:17.49 | jnwhiteh | No, I would not. |
| 09:17.52 | Fisker | Easiest thing is just finding a sound in WoW or from a copyleft site that fits the bill :P |
| 09:17.54 | jnwhiteh | because its not a matter for public discussion. |
| 09:18.12 | jnwhiteh | indeed, there are multiple solutions to the problem |
| 09:18.32 | Mike-N-Go | How is copyleft diffrent? |
| 09:18.35 | Shadowed | It's 3-6 AM for the majority of us, except for clad. You're going to have to have some patience before other people are going to be online :p |
| 09:18.56 | Mike-N-Go | 2:18 here |
| 09:19.09 | Shadowed | point is, most people are sleeping |
| 09:19.19 | Mike-N-Go | We are not most people! |
| 09:19.27 | Fisker | copyleft is just a term for a license that enforces that a work is "free" |
| 09:19.46 | Fisker | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyleft |
| 09:20.00 | Jamash | the creative commons is one such source of copyleft material |
| 09:20.04 | Mirrormn | I'm pretty sure I'm not asleep... |
| 09:20.56 | Kyrain | btw already in side WoW, is there somewhere a list of textures, especially Backdrop bg files, that are already in WoW? |
| 09:20.57 | Jamash | yay, instant ghost wolf didn't get cut |
| 09:21.18 | Trela | Thank you every one for the pattern help. :D |
| 09:21.19 | Jamash | there's the UI Addon Kit that will extract all the graphics for you |
| 09:21.33 | Jamash | !addonkit |
| 09:21.38 | Jamash | nuts |
| 09:21.41 | Kyrain | ^^ |
| 09:21.46 | jnwhiteh | !addon texbrowser |
| 09:21.47 | lua_bot | Found 0 addon results for 'texbrowser': http://is.gd/dBSUX |
| 09:21.48 | Mirrormn | Kyrain: download the UI addon kit's graphic files, and get Xnview |
| 09:21.54 | Jamash | http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=21466 |
| 09:21.56 | jnwhiteh | what's Antiarc's texture browse? |
| 09:21.59 | jnwhiteh | there is on in=game |
| 09:22.02 | jnwhiteh | just don't remember what it's called. |
| 09:22.04 | Kyrain | thanks, I'll look for it, the dialogFrame is just awefull |
| 09:22.05 | jnwhiteh | its's in my book |
| 09:22.05 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 09:22.17 | jnwhiteh | Kyrain: http://wowprogramming.com/utils/artbrowser |
| 09:22.21 | jnwhiteh | can view them all online |
| 09:22.30 | Mike-N-Go | jnwhiteh: Thanks for looking into this matter! |
| 09:22.31 | Jamash | oo, handy |
| 09:22.31 | Kyrain | Cool, thanks |
| 09:22.31 | jnwhiteh | including per-directory listings |
| 09:22.32 | jnwhiteh | http://wowprogramming.com/utils/artbrowser/AUCTIONFRAME.list |
| 09:23.40 | jnwhiteh | Kyrain: http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/texbrowser.aspx |
| 09:24.04 | jnwhiteh | featured on page 155 =) |
| 09:24.34 | Kyrain | this is great thanks |
| 09:24.58 | Jamash | any idea if texbrowser has a hardcoded list of paths or it discovers what's actually in the game files? |
| 09:25.04 | jnwhiteh | hardcoded |
| 09:25.08 | jnwhiteh | fairly certain |
| 09:25.09 | Mike-N-Go | I do not have access to WoW ATM; who can test an addon for me? |
| 09:25.11 | Jamash | k, so it's out of date |
| 09:25.17 | jnwhiteh | probably |
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| 09:25.28 | Kyrain | meh |
| 09:25.36 | Jamash | any UI changes that have happened since 3.0.3 anyway |
| 09:25.44 | Kyrain | trial&Error then for me |
| 09:25.49 | Mike-N-Go | Kyrain: Is that a 'me'? |
| 09:26.11 | Jamash | meh is an utterance expressing ambivalence and ennui |
| 09:26.25 | Mike-N-Go | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12303-MyNameTogglesWhenIAFKorDND.html is the addon. |
| 09:26.46 | Mike-N-Go | All I need you to do ingame is /afk toggle and see if your name toggles too. |
| 09:27.15 | mikma | jebus that was cool |
| 09:27.30 | mikma | rubbercarpet went 360 in the air |
| 09:27.52 | Mike-N-Go | mikma: And you did not break your back? |
| 09:28.16 | Mike-N-Go | Why would you want to ride a rubbercarpet in the first place.. |
| 09:28.33 | mikma | i was the man using the detonator |
| 09:30.32 | Kyrain | lol replacing one edgefile with another totally srewed things up |
| 09:31.32 | Mike-N-Go | Anyone help me test?? |
| 09:34.07 | jnwhiteh | Mike-N-Go: there's no orush |
| 09:34.14 | jnwhiteh | wait until you're at WoW and can test yourself. |
| 09:34.22 | Mike-N-Go | pout |
| 09:34.26 | jnwhiteh | the batch of keys we receive is not likely to be large enough for you to get a key immediately. |
| 09:34.44 | jnwhiteh | who knows, but either way, you'll need to exercise some patience, and you testing your own addon is much more appropriate. |
| 09:35.16 | Mike-N-Go | All I am asking for is if it spews any errors, and does its function |
| 09:35.28 | Cide | well you have plenty of time before the beta is over |
| 09:35.32 | jnwhiteh | but that involves somsone downloading, installing, restarting wow, testing, and then reporting to you |
| 09:35.34 | jnwhiteh | that's asking quite a bit |
| 09:35.38 | Cide | and I doubt anyone will be dying to use your addon in the beta |
| 09:35.50 | jnwhiteh | given that mostly only europeans are awake, and most of us are at work. |
| 09:35.50 | Cide | seeing as its function is quite limited in scope |
| 09:36.02 | Jamash | I'm kind of surprised that they gave out beta keys to addon devs before enabling addons |
| 09:36.11 | Mike-N-Go | Cide: I thought that is how you liked your addons? |
| 09:36.24 | Mike-N-Go | Can you use 3rd party addons in the beta, yet? |
| 09:36.27 | Cide | I like my addons as more than 3 lines of code |
| 09:36.59 | jnwhiteh | No, addons are disabled in Beta |
| 09:37.08 | Cide | no offense but I'm sure it can wait in this case |
| 09:37.08 | Mike-N-Go | Cide: I am talking about http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info12303-MyNameTogglesWhenIAFKorDND.html, I think you are on another topic. |
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| 09:37.41 | Cide | no, not really |
| 09:37.41 | Mike-N-Go | jnwhiteh: Is it required that I test the addon in WoW before I can receive a key? |
| 09:37.47 | Cide | 95% of your code consists of configuration |
| 09:37.57 | jnwhiteh | Mike-N-Go: Yes. |
| 09:38.11 | Mike-N-Go | jnwhiteh: How will you know? |
| 09:38.15 | jnwhiteh | I won't. |
| 09:38.23 | Mike-N-Go | Cide: I ask to better myself: How would you rewrite my addon? |
| 09:38.30 | Cide | I wouldn't |
| 09:38.31 | Jamash | Mike-N-Go: Have you ever had a puppy that kept jumping up and down at you over and over and over again? |
| 09:38.42 | Cide | I don't find it a useful addon, sorry |
| 09:38.45 | jnwhiteh | But you are going so far against the spirit of this system that I'm tempted to just say you won't be eligible for a key for us. |
| 09:38.49 | Cide | but I'm sure others might |
| 09:39.10 | Jamash | Getting a beta key so you can update your addons: Cool. |
| 09:39.20 | Jamash | Updating your addons so you can get a beta key: Not Cool. |
| 09:39.25 | jnwhiteh | indeed |
| 09:41.09 | Torhal | I appreciate your hard work.Very simple. |
| 09:41.13 | Torhal | cackles! |
| 09:41.31 | Torhal | I'm sooooo tired of deleting those./ |
| 09:41.47 | mikma | addons still disabled? |
| 09:41.51 | Kyrain | You get beta keys for addons? |
| 09:42.01 | Torhal | mikma: Yes |
| 09:42.07 | mikma | oh boob. |
| 09:42.42 | Torhal | Kyrain: Depends on if you're actually an author and not just someone writing (or stealing) something just to get a key. |
| 09:43.01 | Kyrain | Hehe, thought so |
| 09:43.54 | Kyrain | And I thought with the whole Battle.net account thingy things like selling/giving away beta-keys was over |
| 09:44.06 | Kyrain | *were |
| 09:44.21 | Torhal | They never sold them. |
| 09:44.37 | Kyrain | Yeah, other people did |
| 09:45.15 | Jamash | well, everyone who preordered SCII from certain places got SCII beta access, but that's different |
| 09:45.54 | mikma | dr.pepper cherry! |
| 09:46.03 | mikma | most delicious nom evah! |
| 09:46.06 | Jamash | ew, dr. pepper |
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| 09:46.47 | Jamash | should have stuck with his medical career imo |
| 09:48.22 | Kyrain | Dr. pepper is actually Dr.rer.nat. Pepper, I think |
| 09:59.56 | Kyrain | wee, my old(first) addon still almost works |
| 10:00.07 | Kyrain | Won't load AceOO though |
| 10:00.21 | Jamash | my old first addon will be obsolete in cata (thank goodness) |
| 10:00.30 | Kyrain | What did it do? |
| 10:00.47 | Jamash | it printed a list of where you needed to go for weapons training |
| 10:01.40 | Jamash | it had a little internal database of what class/race combinations start with what skills trained and where the weapons skill trainers were |
| 10:01.55 | Kyrain | oh nice |
| 10:02.00 | Jamash | I never got it to publishable quality |
| 10:02.09 | Jamash | I ended up putting the same information on wowwiki |
| 10:02.16 | Kyrain | Way more complicated than my littel manabar, though it will become handy in cata |
| 10:02.20 | Fisker | http://imgur.com/wcsjJ.png <-Nice sorting and changing of languages in the middle of everything |
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| 10:09.19 | Torhal | ejects Fisker from the HoloDEC Station |
| 10:13.46 | Fisker | slaps Torhal around a bit with a large trout |
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| 10:49.10 | zenzelezz | heh... "Kabab - Snowplowing". Interesting combination |
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| 11:23.52 | Antiarc | jnwhiteh: TexBrowser |
| 11:23.56 | Antiarc | The data files are out of date though |
| 11:24.02 | Antiarc | I need to rebuild the extractor |
| 11:25.00 | Torhal | Antiarc: I don't know if you're aware, but when I use the LDB feed for HudMap to go to its interface options, it takes me to SexyMap's HudMap entry. |
| 11:27.47 | Antiarc | Oh |
| 11:27.49 | Antiarc | I should fix that |
| 11:28.20 | Mirrormn | Does Button:SetNormalTexture(...) not work with texture objects, only texture paths? |
| 11:29.30 | Mirrormn | cause wowwiki and wowprogramming both say it should work with texture objects but I can't make it work for the life of me |
| 11:30.54 | Torhal | What's your texture object? |
| 11:31.10 | Torhal | As in - how are you creating it? |
| 11:32.23 | Mirrormn | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/138816 first way doesn't work, second way does |
| 11:32.47 | Mirrormn | er, that has a typo |
| 11:33.36 | Mirrormn | k fixed it |
| 11:34.31 | Mirrormn | (the pastey, not the problem) |
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| 11:35.12 | Torhal | Ditch the .blp |
| 11:35.28 | Mirrormn | I did try that, I think |
| 11:36.03 | Mirrormn | yar, still doesn't work |
| 11:36.04 | Torhal | Are you going to be re-using the texture object for anything? |
| 11:36.11 | Mirrormn | no |
| 11:36.15 | Torhal | if not, why not just stick to the second way? |
| 11:36.23 | Mirrormn | actually the Button documentation says you can't |
| 11:36.23 | Torhal | It's less verbose and actually works. |
| 11:36.34 | Mirrormn | well, yeah, but I want to do a SetTexCoord |
| 11:36.44 | Torhal | Ah |
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| 11:37.06 | Mirrormn | the other way would require me to extract the wow textures, cut the part I want, and then distribute it with the addon, not so ideal |
| 11:38.09 | Torhal | Mirrormn: Oh |
| 11:38.58 | Torhal | Mirrormn: texture:SetAllPoints(button) |
| 11:39.03 | Torhal | It isn't anchored |
| 11:39.30 | Torhal | Texture objects need anchors just like any other region |
| 11:39.51 | Mirrormn | =/ I figured the button would automagically do that for me |
| 11:40.08 | Mirrormn | that works, thanks |
| 11:40.11 | Torhal | :D |
| 11:42.57 | Mirrormn | now there's the separate and much more confounding problem of me not being able to change the button's texture to a saved texture repeatedly |
| 11:43.51 | Mirrormn | when the button uses the texture once, it messes with it, and then the next time I try to use it, it says "Could not find "this" in texture" or something |
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| 11:44.21 | Mirrormn | that whole problem can be solved by creating a new texture for the button every time but... that grates on my nerves =/ |
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| 11:45.46 | Torhal | That isn't optimal. |
| 11:45.54 | Torhal | That's like creating a new frame every time. |
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| 11:48.37 | Torhal | Mirrormn: Here's how I handle that in ARL - http://paste.wowace.com/2244/ |
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| 12:11.41 | jnwhiteh | Mirrormn: did you get your answer about whatever you were looking for? |
| 12:12.29 | Torhal | jnwhiteh: He wasn't anchoring his texture object - it's all good now. |
| 12:13.16 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 12:13.17 | jnwhiteh | kk |
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| 12:19.18 | Fisker | bitchesmen |
| 12:20.23 | Stanzilla | fisker |
| 12:20.26 | Stanzilla | my soul sister |
| 12:20.49 | Fisker | Stanzilla my soul priscilla |
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| 12:35.35 | Warloco | should we still expect blizzard to actually send out those extra beta keys? :( |
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| 12:37.44 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 12:37.49 | jnwhiteh | they just haven't been sent yet |
| 12:38.02 | jnwhiteh | they were supposed to come, and there was an issue with the batch that got pulled, so they had to be re-requested. |
| 12:38.41 | Warloco | >.< |
| 12:38.55 | Warloco | thanks |
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| 12:43.24 | Fisker | slaps jnwhiteh around a bit with a large trout |
| 12:46.40 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 12:47.29 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh. *wink* |
| 12:49.01 | Warloco | o.o |
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| 12:49.36 | xDD | jnwiteh: Did they say how many they would send with the next batch? |
| 12:50.49 | jnwhiteh | not that I'm aware of. |
| 12:53.30 | Fisker | bam |
| 12:55.48 | |Jelly| | So long as it's >84, I'm happy. :P |
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| 12:58.31 | xDD | I think I'm pretty much at the end of the queue :P |
| 12:59.10 | Warloco | I'm only 5 down the line |
| 12:59.25 | Warloco | had I clicked the button 10 minutes earlier, perhaps I wouldve had beta right now >.< |
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| 13:03.01 | Torhal | WoW Beta == Crack Cocaine, apparently. |
| 13:03.20 | |Jelly| | mixed with heroin |
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| 13:05.08 | |Jelly| | and there's the dealer! |
| 13:05.42 | Torhal | Cairenn: G'morning. Or not - perception is reality after all. |
| 13:08.19 | Warloco | and good morning Cairenn |
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| 13:32.22 | Wobin | Your argument is invalid: http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/200401450-001/Photodisc |
| 13:33.14 | Mirrormn | well that's baffling |
| 13:33.26 | Mirrormn | I tried to make my button textures work like yours, Torhal |
| 13:33.33 | Mirrormn | and it causes WoW to crash |
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| 13:39.25 | ckknight | http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/200401450-001.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=EDF6F2F4F969CEBD562B991004DF81462A1ACC9A5B658D5682675B315A8EC01400123AA3B5A18ED0 |
| 13:40.38 | Maldivia | Mirrormn: sounds like you did something wrong then :P |
| 13:40.45 | Mirrormn | yeah I fixed it |
| 13:40.53 | Mirrormn | I couldn't see anything inherently wrong with the code |
| 13:40.59 | Mirrormn | but I just changed it anyway and then it worked |
| 13:41.08 | Mirrormn | so it will forever remain a mystery, I guess |
| 13:41.35 | Maldivia | or coincidence? |
| 13:41.44 | Mirrormn | no it was a repeatable bug |
| 13:41.47 | Mirrormn | I tried it a few times |
| 13:42.05 | Maldivia | then save the code and report it so it can be fixed |
| 13:42.26 | Mirrormn | well, the code is already gone -.- |
| 13:42.35 | Maldivia | revert? |
| 13:42.36 | Maldivia | :P |
| 13:42.43 | Mirrormn | actually it's probably still in the undo log |
| 13:45.29 | Mirrormn | haha this code is like a logic puzzle |
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| 13:51.34 | Mirrormn | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/138821 clicking that button causes wow to instantly crash |
| 13:53.57 | Mirrormn | how would I even report that? |
| 13:54.34 | zenzelezz | you said you changed something and made it work; what did you change? |
| 13:57.07 | Mirrormn | I changed the function to stop taking the button object as an argument and just referenced it as an upvalue instead |
| 13:57.24 | Mirrormn | and I changed it to use a single texture object instead of two |
| 13:57.42 | Mirrormn | *functions |
| 13:58.47 | Mirrormn | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/138822 there's the working code |
| 13:59.39 | Torhal | function anchor.set_on_texture() --> function anchor:set_on_texture() |
| 13:59.45 | Torhal | Then replace all anchor. with self. |
| 14:00.37 | Torhal | In your original code it was crashing because you were asking for a button and were always feeding it nil |
| 14:01.18 | Mirrormn | the functions were called with the colon notation |
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| 14:02.21 | Mirrormn | I just used the single dot notation to define them because I find replacing the value of self for the duration of the function to be really confusing |
| 14:02.55 | Mirrormn | and it's not giving me a lua error, it's completely crashing the game |
| 14:04.55 | Torhal | You had: function anchor.set_off_texture(button) |
| 14:05.01 | Torhal | You were calling: anchor:set_off_texture(); |
| 14:05.22 | Torhal | Ah |
| 14:05.26 | Torhal | I need sleep. |
| 14:05.31 | Mirrormn | yar |
| 14:05.36 | Mirrormn | that should work fine |
| 14:05.38 | Torhal | Or for WoW to work under the current fucking kernel, whichever. |
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| 14:09.04 | Lopeppeppy | Three cheers for power outages! |
| 14:09.05 | Mirrormn | it crashes it in a way that doesn't give me a error report popup, too |
| 14:13.05 | foxlit | There are undoubtedly some bugs there |
| 14:13.15 | foxlit | It should be screaming at you to fix your code, not crashing silently |
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| 14:19.56 | Wobin | I remember watching people doing this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCamx8vzyCw&feature=player_embedded |
| 14:19.56 | harl | yt: Painting on Water |
| 14:19.56 | Wobin | (long video) |
| 14:20.00 | Wobin | harl: that's creepy =P |
| 14:20.10 | Wobin | but nice bot |
| 14:22.17 | harl | hm |
| 14:24.30 | harl | it's not supposed to be creepy though |
| 14:25.39 | Wobin | creepy speed =P |
| 14:26.13 | Wobin | http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/072010/the_god_your_god_could_look_like.jpg |
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| 14:29.05 | Mirrormn | I stripped away references to my addon so you can run it if anyone cares http://wowuidev.pastey.net/138825 |
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| 14:32.16 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvRTALJp8DM&feature=player_embedded |
| 14:32.16 | harl | yt: Aggressive Maneuvers for Autonomous Quadrotor Flight |
| 14:32.23 | Wobin | that's scarily accurate |
| 14:33.42 | Mirrormn | I love that movie |
| 14:34.00 | ReAn | *sigh* |
| 14:34.06 | ReAn | they didn't fix the whale shark :/ |
| 14:34.59 | Mirrormn | whale shark is working as intended! |
| 14:35.25 | A-KO | that's a big damn fish, btw. |
| 14:36.30 | cbreak_work | very cool. |
| 14:36.39 | cbreak_work | with a swarm of those, you could do so many things... :) |
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| 14:47.58 | Wobin | cbreak_work: if you could program swarm behaviour into them, it'd be awesome |
| 14:48.09 | Wobin | in an Alfred Hitchcock "The Birds" sort of way |
| 14:48.21 | Mirrormn | I bet they're working on swarm behavior right at this very second |
| 14:48.34 | mikma | "fix whale shark" ?? |
| 14:48.40 | mikma | it works... attack it and it'll eat you |
| 14:48.44 | Mirrormn | actually, they're probably on summer break |
| 14:49.13 | mikma | nsfw http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/suomen_kesa.jpg (finnish_summer.jpg) |
| 14:49.13 | Mirrormn | mikma: I think he was talking about how it's hitbox is bigger than its visible range |
| 14:50.24 | Wobin | mikma: despite the state of dress... it looks fucking cold, still =P |
| 14:53.44 | mikma | wobin: cause you can't see his penis? |
| 14:54.01 | Wobin | mikma: probably =) |
| 14:54.06 | Wobin | also, http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/2152242.html#cutid1 |
| 14:54.06 | mikma | wobin: that's pretty much +30c, and calm lake |
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| 15:05.34 | Wobin | btw |
| 15:05.39 | Wobin | oh nm |
| 15:07.48 | Fisker | slaps Wobin around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:13.10 | A-KO | http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=15&art_id=iol1279700444989D122 |
| 15:13.14 | A-KO | wtf |
| 15:13.21 | Fisker | slaps A-KO around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:14.42 | Cairenn | Keys for Tracking Numbers #000199 - #0000408 assigned |
| 15:15.07 | zenzelezz | :) |
| 15:15.08 | Lopeppeppy | cheers Cairenn heartily! |
| 15:15.12 | Fisker | slaps Cairenn around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:15.15 | Mirrormn | you got 209 keys? |
| 15:15.30 | cog|work | Mirrormn: think about that question a bit longer imo ;) |
| 15:15.49 | Mirrormn | it's just conversational! |
| 15:15.52 | Mirrormn | blargh! |
| 15:15.55 | cog|work | :P |
| 15:16.21 | Mirrormn | borrows a trout from Fisker with which to slap cog|work |
| 15:16.27 | cog|work | noms the trout |
| 15:16.34 | cog|work | Fisker: iPatched |
| 15:18.56 | Fisker | slaps cog|work around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:21.57 | Mirrormn | "Pick a layout to which to stick", is that proper grammar? |
| 15:22.20 | Mirrormn | it sounds ridiculous |
| 15:22.30 | Mirrormn | but "Pick a layout to stick to" sounds wrong as well |
| 15:24.27 | Wobin | Mirrormn: apply? |
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| 15:24.36 | Wobin | Pick a layout to apply |
| 15:24.49 | Mirrormn | eh.. it's not a layout in that sense |
| 15:25.09 | Mirrormn | it's a keyboard layout |
| 15:25.22 | Lopeppeppy | Choose your keyboard layout. |
| 15:25.28 | Wobin | more context? |
| 15:26.14 | Mirrormn | it's a character map addon in which higher-ascii and unicode characters are displayed on a virtual keyboard |
| 15:26.20 | Mirrormn | but there are quite a few characters |
| 15:26.33 | Mirrormn | so I split it into 6 different sets of characters |
| 15:26.55 | Wobin | Select your default layout? |
| 15:27.09 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, default! |
| 15:27.38 | Mirrormn | well, by default, you can change the keyboard layout using modifier keys, and although I know that's too transient of an access method for some people |
| 15:27.43 | Mirrormn | I don't want to remove that functionality |
| 15:28.08 | Mirrormn | so it's not exactly choosing a "default" layout because the implication is that you're superseding the default functionality |
| 15:28.27 | Wobin | Select the initial layout? |
| 15:29.23 | Mirrormn | I think I must go with "Pick a single layout to show" |
| 15:30.03 | Lopeppeppy | That implies that I only ever get that layout. |
| 15:30.20 | Mirrormn | well you do, until you change it |
| 15:30.29 | Mirrormn | this is the mouseover text for a dropdown menu |
| 15:31.08 | Satisfyme | is there a way to clear a frame so you can recreate it without having to reload the ui ? |
| 15:31.18 | cog|work | Dvorak! |
| 15:31.42 | cog|work | Satisfyme: you can modify what's already there |
| 15:31.48 | cog|work | ui objects are never destroyed though |
| 15:31.51 | Wobin | Satisfyme: ^ you cannot delete frames |
| 15:32.41 | Satisfyme | hmm |
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| 15:36.07 | cog|work | http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=1928#comic |
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| 15:58.02 | Kaelten | Just a heads up for anyone waiting for a key from us, I'm starting to send out keys guys, however, to my knowledge there is a bug on battle.net preventing EU people from redeeming. |
| 16:00.01 | nicoli_s | fuck em! |
| 16:00.12 | nicoli_s | i mean...uhhh.....sorry EU? |
| 16:00.14 | cog|work | yes. europeans are hot |
| 16:00.18 | cog|work | :> |
| 16:00.23 | nicoli_s | exactly what i meant |
| 16:05.22 | cog|work | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3310315/about-fractions-closed >< |
| 16:06.05 | nicoli_s | AND HE WANT THE UNSWER BY TOMORROW MORNING |
| 16:06.13 | Cairenn | Kaelten: not just EU, US as well (at least some) - talking with Danielle about it already |
| 16:06.16 | nicoli_s | he want the unswer! |
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| 16:06.40 | Kaelten | ya, getting reports too |
| 16:06.53 | Kaelten | debating if I should stop giving keys out for now |
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| 16:17.40 | Maldivia | hmm, anyone know how to disable the game from storing frame layout positioning on the server, and use the local cache instead? |
| 16:18.26 | cog|work | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=11162847363&sid=1&pageNo=2#34 |
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| 16:18.44 | cog|work | though i didn't think the actual layout was stored server-side |
| 16:19.46 | Maldivia | it is on beta |
| 16:20.32 | Maldivia | and it annoys the crap out of me, since it's resolution specific |
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| 16:20.55 | Maldivia | and my laptop and desktop are not the same resolution |
| 16:21.36 | Mike-N-Go | Maldivia: Use either the laptop, or the desktop, not both: Problem solved! |
| 16:22.15 | A-KO | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAtBki0PsC0 |
| 16:22.15 | harl | yt: The Muppets: Beaker's Ballad |
| 16:22.25 | RJohn | So, I got my Cata Beta key, But when adding it to my battle.net account it says that it isn't a Game Code, And i should use code redemption page. Then if i use it there it says that it isn't eligable? |
| 16:22.34 | Kaelten | RJohn: known issue |
| 16:22.45 | Kaelten | we've been todl it'll be fixed 'soon' |
| 16:22.51 | Mike-N-Go | RJohn: Burn your key in a fire. Problem solved. |
| 16:23.01 | Fisker | in reality i snatched the key |
| 16:23.19 | RJohn | Kaelten: Ah, So it happend to the new batch, or somthing? |
| 16:23.28 | Kaelten | yup |
| 16:23.40 | Kaelten | some people's keys are messing up, not everyones, not sure why :( |
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| 16:23.53 | RJohn | Kaelten: Well that is a bit annoying, Oh well just gotta wait a bit I guess. |
| 16:23.58 | Kaelten | indeed |
| 16:24.13 | Morkesh | heya guys |
| 16:24.22 | Kaelten | hi Morkesh |
| 16:24.52 | Warloco | erm |
| 16:25.05 | Warloco | with the new battle.net website, how do you upgrade account >.< |
| 16:25.38 | Morkesh | anyone here worked with the hybridscrollframe template? |
| 16:25.42 | Fisker | add gaem |
| 16:25.42 | Warloco | nvm found it |
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| 16:26.35 | Warloco | hmm im getting an error |
| 16:27.25 | Maldivia | the "use redemption error" if so, known issue |
| 16:27.30 | Kaelten | Warloco: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/how-to-queue-for-an-addon-author-cataclysm-beta-key/?comment=75 |
| 16:27.49 | Warloco | cheers |
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| 16:34.37 | kd3 | whee |
| 16:34.40 | kd3 | c'mon firecane! |
| 16:34.57 | Lopeppeppy | Woot! |
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| 16:39.01 | Lopeppeppy | I am such a geek to covet this... http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/womens/d7a3/ |
| 16:39.49 | kd3 | haha |
| 16:40.42 | cog|work | needs moar action shots imo ;) |
| 16:41.33 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 16:41.38 | Fisker | not so hey cog|work |
| 16:41.43 | kd3 | hi fisk-fisk |
| 16:41.49 | Fisker | :( |
| 16:41.50 | cog|work | tosses Fisker some fish food |
| 16:42.04 | Fisker | google sucks at comments btw |
| 16:42.09 | cog|work | "Male Senate candidate: Vote for me 'because I do not wear high heels'" |
| 16:42.15 | cog|work | http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2010/07/male-senate-candidate-vote-for.html |
| 16:42.31 | Fisker | The realtime updates they get on comments on the Starcraft trailer thingy is a mix of danish, abbreviated danish, english and abbreviated english |
| 16:42.46 | Fisker | and it's not sorted chronologically |
| 16:43.09 | Fisker | oh i get it now |
| 16:43.29 | Fisker | Because when it updates the new comment it doesn't update all the old one with new timestamps |
| 16:43.31 | Fisker | jerks |
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| 17:10.37 | alestane | waves. |
| 17:10.52 | Lopeppeppy | ohai |
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| 17:12.50 | Fisker | hey Lopeppeppy |
| 17:12.51 | alestane | snuggles with Peppy. |
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| 17:16.05 | Lopeppeppy | why hello, Fisker. |
| 17:16.46 | Fisker | i'm totally not a jerk |
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| 17:18.41 | alestane | http://www.somethingpositive.net/sp07192010.shtml |
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| 17:23.53 | Maldivia | alestane: kind of curious what will go on today at comic-con at 3.30, with the JJ Abrams and Joss Whedon session :P |
| 17:26.54 | Fisker | what |
| 17:26.55 | Fisker | wat. |
| 17:27.02 | Fisker | JJ Abrams and Joss Whedon? |
| 17:27.03 | Fisker | WAT? |
| 17:27.08 | ^RaK^ | hmmm |
| 17:27.12 | Cloudwolf | hmm? |
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| 17:32.53 | ccox | JJ will want more explosions, and Josh will wimp out |
| 17:32.58 | ccox | aka: the usual |
| 17:33.02 | Mirrormn | they're probably gonna have man-sex right there on the convention floor |
| 17:34.08 | Maldivia | would that be good or bad for the ratings... |
| 17:35.18 | Lopeppeppy | Yes. |
| 17:35.42 | alestane | The quintessential Peppy answer. |
| 17:35.42 | Cloudwolf | Lol lose the straight people get more gays and women? |
| 17:36.16 | alestane | I don't think that would necessarily be the division in question. |
| 17:36.21 | Lopeppeppy | Nope. |
| 17:36.36 | Cloudwolf | k lol |
| 17:37.56 | Maldivia | well, true blood have pumped up the male-male action this season, and the ratings are still good |
| 17:37.58 | NightHawkTheSane | i do like, however, how women were separated into neither "straight people" nor "gays" |
| 17:38.21 | Lopeppeppy | That's why I said nope, NHTS. |
| 17:38.21 | Fisker | i hate alestane |
| 17:38.22 | Maldivia | NHTS: you mean how women are counted at all? |
| 17:38.43 | Lopeppeppy | Ouch, Maldivia. |
| 17:38.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Maldivia: well when it comes to whedon women are like 2/3 of his fan base so :P |
| 17:39.14 | Maldivia | NHTS: well, considering he's all about female empowerment... |
| 17:39.51 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, i doubt most of his fans dont care about that. |
| 17:39.54 | NightHawkTheSane | er. |
| 17:39.57 | NightHawkTheSane | s/dont// |
| 17:40.02 | NightHawkTheSane | needs coffee. |
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| 17:42.25 | Maldivia | ohh and speaking of true blood (or well, I was) - that final laughter in the latest episode... so good/funny/everything |
| 17:43.34 | Maldivia | or well, actually "fantastic!" :P |
| 17:45.47 | Ackis | ~seen moonwitch |
| 17:45.50 | purl | moonwitch <~Kelly@d51A4DB5F.access.telenet.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 14h 17m 40s ago, saying: 'aka legally : no, but everyone will do it anyhow.'. |
| 17:46.47 | Gnarfoz | Cairenn: got a minute for a quick PM? |
| 17:46.54 | Cairenn | sure |
| 17:47.19 | alestane | leaves a drink at the side of Cairenn's desk. |
| 17:47.30 | Cairenn | hugs alestane |
| 17:48.30 | Fisker | rages |
| 17:48.44 | alestane | I get hugs; you get rage. |
| 17:48.52 | alestane | I think I win, quite honestly. |
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| 17:51.06 | Cloudwolf | NightHawkTheSane i'm a straight guy but i still like Female on female so by my improper assoccation women would like male onmale.... |
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| 17:52.08 | NightHawkTheSane | the point was that you implied women are neither straight nor gay :P |
| 17:52.31 | Lopeppeppy | We are... what, sleek weasels out for a romp in the morning dew? |
| 17:52.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: well, that probably also applies.. :P |
| 17:52.50 | Cloudwolf | Well that wasn't my intention night hawk :D |
| 17:53.22 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, but NHTS, I am soooo much more than a dew-romper. |
| 17:53.49 | NightHawkTheSane | i was thinking weasel, but yes, i'm sure you are :) |
| 17:54.17 | Lopeppeppy | I am a rabbit, a cat, and a fox. Weasel isn't in my nature. |
| 17:54.21 | NightHawkTheSane | is going to get slapped, isn't he.. |
| 17:54.46 | Fisker | slaps NightHawkTheSane around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:54.50 | Lopeppeppy | Will you present yourself at Bizzcon? |
| 17:55.00 | NightHawkTheSane | i wont be at blizzcon :( |
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| 17:55.18 | Lopeppeppy | Aww, I was going to bribe someone to smack you by proxy for me. |
| 17:55.27 | Cloudwolf_ | Lol any one else just lose connection to freenode? |
| 17:55.34 | Gnarfoz | just you |
| 17:55.41 | Cairenn | is easily bribed by Lopeppeppy |
| 17:55.51 | Lopeppeppy | kisses, chocolate and rum! |
| 17:55.53 | Cloudwolf_ | k |
| 17:55.55 | Cloudwolf_ | XD |
| 17:56.07 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy knows me well! |
| 17:56.16 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 17:56.52 | Niv | heh |
| 17:56.59 | Gnarfoz | I should drink more... or less |
| 17:57.21 | cloudwolf | hmm |
| 17:57.23 | cloudwolf | that was a pain |
| 17:57.59 | cloudwolf | random disconnect followed by not being able to name change due to being in a channel where you can't namechange or chat until you identify yourself |
| 17:59.07 | alestane | Have to ghost yourself. |
| 17:59.20 | cloudwolf | i did |
| 17:59.31 | Gnarfoz | or add your alternate nickname to your account |
| 17:59.33 | cloudwolf | but still didn't change that the other channel was bugging out at me |
| 17:59.53 | Lopeppeppy | bugs are buggy. |
| 17:59.57 | Fisker | hey |
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| 18:00.10 | alestane | Peppy is cheerful today, as things go. |
| 18:00.25 | Gnarfoz | I find myself mocked by Blizzard today |
| 18:00.25 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 18:00.38 | Fisker | hey Gnarfoz |
| 18:00.44 | Gnarfoz | sup danishman |
| 18:00.52 | Fisker | NO! |
| 18:00.54 | Fisker | that's racist |
| 18:01.01 | Gnarfoz | no, countryist |
| 18:01.34 | Ackis | http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/CanadaAckis/avatar-body.png |
| 18:01.40 | Ackis | I R SEXAH |
| 18:01.55 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, I've gotten no less than 5 Cataclysm phishing emails today. I'm positively giddy. |
| 18:02.01 | Gnarfoz | Ackis: still a troll |
| 18:02.08 | alestane | Is there a connection between those things? |
| 18:02.14 | Odlaw | wow.. i've only ever had 1 phishing email |
| 18:02.29 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 18:02.29 | Odlaw | actually.. 1 that got through the spam filter |
| 18:02.31 | Fisker | stop it |
| 18:02.37 | Odlaw | not sure how many didn't get through :) |
| 18:02.50 | Gnarfoz | I'm getting from 10-20 wow/aion/battle.net scam/phising mails a day |
| 18:03.00 | Odlaw | time to change emails |
| 18:03.37 | cloudwolf | Lopeppeppy i got 1 cataclysm phising email and 1 with the worst grammar i have ever seen saying my account has been in illegal activity lol |
| 18:03.42 | Fisker | sweet Gnarfoz |
| 18:04.15 | Lopeppeppy | most of these are in my spam filter, Odlaw. One got through, and then I couldn't forward it to the Hacks email because it didn't pass the spam filter! |
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| 18:04.17 | xDD | still 100 keys to go until you get to me :o |
| 18:04.19 | Lopeppeppy | I thought that was hilarious. |
| 18:04.19 | cloudwolf | something like "Your account had been in many illegal activities in a long time. No one has reported you but if reported you will be permanently banned." >.> |
| 18:04.27 | xDD | were those 200 keys the whole batch? |
| 18:04.35 | Lopeppeppy | No one has reported you, but somehow we know!!! |
| 18:04.35 | cloudwolf | XDD |
| 18:04.42 | cloudwolf | i can't tyep your name xdd D: |
| 18:04.44 | cloudwolf | there we go |
| 18:04.59 | cloudwolf | lol xdd don't get your hopes up yet i got a key but the key is "invalid" |
| 18:05.04 | cloudwolf | blizzard has to fix their stuff |
| 18:05.04 | ^RaK^ | heh 40 for me xDD, tho im not entirely sure if ill get one :) |
| 18:05.30 | xDD | Why, are they not planning to send a new batch? :P |
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| 18:05.54 | cloudwolf | No they probebly will |
| 18:05.57 | cloudwolf | but they have to fix this batch first lol |
| 18:06.00 | xDD | Hehe ok |
| 18:06.03 | alestane | showers Lopeppeppy and Cairenn with confetti. |
| 18:06.08 | alestane | is in an odd mood today! |
| 18:06.09 | Cairenn | :) |
| 18:06.26 | Lopeppeppy | Are you sweeping that up? 'cause I ain't! |
| 18:06.39 | cloudwolf | grabs some confetti and throws it in the air repeatedly because even though im not a child any more its still fun |
| 18:06.41 | Cairenn | has been in an odd mood for a week or so now |
| 18:06.45 | alestane | It's like the Love Fool stuff, it cleans up after itself. |
| 18:06.53 | ^RaK^ | :> |
| 18:07.02 | cloudwolf | Cairenn i bet its from trying to deal with blizzard for this entire week lol |
| 18:07.22 | alestane | The same odd mood, Cairenn, or just consistently odd? |
| 18:07.23 | Cairenn | cloudwolf: among ohter things |
| 18:07.38 | Cairenn | alestane: meh =/ |
| 18:07.48 | Ackis | needs to harass someone going to SDCC :( |
| 18:07.55 | Ackis | I want an exclusive item from there |
| 18:08.14 | alestane | I didn't mean, the same one I'm in. Just, has your odd mood been the same one? |
| 18:08.19 | alestane | All week, that is. |
| 18:08.35 | Cairenn | just ... you know .... |
| 18:08.41 | Ackis | is odd all the time. |
| 18:08.41 | alestane | ...odd. |
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| 18:09.57 | Lopeppeppy | snorgles Cairenn. Been there, bought the tshirt. |
| 18:10.24 | Cairenn | doesn't want the damn tshirt |
| 18:10.29 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:10.44 | KarlKFI|work | snorgles tho, right? |
| 18:10.56 | cloudwolf | Ackis what is SDCC? |
| 18:10.59 | Cairenn | snorgles are good |
| 18:11.00 | cloudwolf | OH comic con |
| 18:11.13 | cloudwolf | nvm... |
| 18:11.25 | Fisker | World of Warcraft Subscription Reminder |
| 18:11.26 | Fisker | looks legit! |
| 18:11.33 | Ackis | San Diego Comic Con cloudwolf |
| 18:11.39 | Fisker | maybe i should follow it's instructions without regard for consequences? |
| 18:11.50 | KarlKFI|work | i get wow spam through my filters liek every other day |
| 18:12.02 | Lopeppeppy | your filters suck, Karl! :P |
| 18:12.42 | KarlKFI|work | i especially like the new beta invites to battle-cataclysm-beta.com |
| 18:13.02 | Ackis | if you accept this beta invite, your penis will grow bigger |
| 18:13.10 | ^RaK^ | heh |
| 18:13.29 | zenzelezz | then you'll need many beta invites Ackis |
| 18:13.34 | ^RaK^ | you appear to be getting crossbred spam Ackis :/ |
| 18:15.14 | ccox | SDCC - enjoy the crowd (and the sweat) |
| 18:15.27 | ccox | I'd be there if I could find a hotel room in 50 mile radius... |
| 18:19.02 | Ackis | https://twitter.com/savemack/status/19104043715 wtf |
| 18:19.04 | Ackis | bbq |
| 18:20.09 | ^RaK^ | :( |
| 18:20.09 | cloudwolf | lol |
| 18:20.09 | cloudwolf | that reminds me of that one chatroulette prank |
| 18:20.11 | cloudwolf | the guy has a chick and a snake |
| 18:20.30 | cloudwolf | (i'm assuming its a video but oh well) still funny to see peoples reactions |
| 18:20.58 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
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| 18:21.04 | Fisker | twitter. |
| 18:21.17 | Adys | Cairenn / dolby ping |
| 18:21.25 | Cairenn | Adys: ? |
| 18:24.24 | Fisker | beep |
| 18:24.47 | Fisker | beep |
| 18:25.34 | Jamash | ima |
| 18:25.36 | Jamash | jeep |
| 18:28.38 | Lopeppeppy | Beep beep, Richie. |
| 18:29.38 | fiphi | :D |
| 18:29.40 | fiphi | Lopeppeppy: Prr. |
| 18:30.11 | Lopeppeppy | He thrusts his fists against the post and still insists he sees the ghost. |
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| 18:30.46 | Fisker | i know this boy who sees dead people |
| 18:31.02 | Lopeppeppy | Whether they know it or not. |
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| 18:32.28 | alestane | The though coughs as he ploughs the dough, Peppy. |
| 18:32.31 | alestane | tough* |
| 18:32.49 | Lopeppeppy | Not in the movie, alestane. |
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| 18:42.57 | NightHawkTheSane | heh, worst.. thief.. ever.. |
| 18:43.03 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/crime/detail?entry_id=68288&tsp=1 |
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| 18:45.39 | zenzelezz | more like unlucky |
| 18:45.57 | cloudwolf | lol |
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| 18:50.08 | batbot | Shirik fears to duel a bot, what a coward. |
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| 18:51.52 | nicoli_s | you tell him batbot |
| 18:52.17 | cloudwolf | ~cookie |
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| 18:52.55 | alestane | On live, how do Horde get to Kargath the first time? Just hike the road through the wetland and go up through Dun Algaz? |
| 18:54.00 | mikma | alestane: silverpine -> hillsbrad |
| 18:54.18 | NightHawkTheSane | alestane: yes |
| 18:54.20 | alestane | Hillsbrad connects ont to the Badlands, mikma. |
| 18:54.22 | alestane | not* |
| 18:54.38 | mikma | oh kargath |
| 18:54.43 | NightHawkTheSane | there's only one way IN to kargath |
| 18:54.46 | NightHawkTheSane | er badlands* |
| 18:54.55 | mikma | i thought its the hordeplace in arathi |
| 18:55.19 | alestane | Loch Modan and Searing Gorge both connect. |
| 18:55.30 | NightHawkTheSane | for alliance. |
| 18:56.04 | NightHawkTheSane | afaik, horde can't get the key, and so our only way in is through the wetlands |
| 18:56.16 | alestane | They connect for everyone. But Loch Modan is supposedly alliance territory, and they have guards on the passage up from the Wetlands. |
| 18:57.17 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 18:57.29 | NightHawkTheSane | but by the time most horde are going to the badlands, those guards are no trouble |
| 18:57.38 | NightHawkTheSane | (level 30 guards, vs ~40-45 players) |
| 18:57.55 | mikma | wetland -> loch modan -> badlands |
| 18:58.01 | NightHawkTheSane | so barring douchebags on pvp servers, it's fairly trivial to go arathi->wetlands->loch->badlands |
| 18:58.19 | arkanes_ | I don't think anyone does it any other way |
| 18:58.26 | mikma | nope |
| 18:58.29 | arkanes_ | up through redridge is a lot longer |
| 18:58.47 | NightHawkTheSane | because unless you have a friend to unlock the searing gorge door for you, im not sure there is another way? |
| 18:58.59 | alestane | Well, since you can't, like, parachute in off the Grom-gol Undercity zeppelin, unless there was some passgeway up from below the dam, that would be about it. |
| 18:59.16 | mikma | unless they go from stv -> duskwood -> redridge -> searing gorge -> badlands |
| 18:59.32 | arkanes_ | mikma: yeah thats what I was talking about, but its a much longer run |
| 18:59.33 | mikma | there might be a zone in the way from redridge to searing |
| 18:59.37 | cog|work | http://www.bogost.com/blog/cow_clicker_1.shtml |
| 18:59.41 | alestane | Which goes through just as much Alliance land and higher-level zones. |
| 18:59.54 | alestane | Burning Steppes, mikma. |
| 19:00.00 | Ackis | https://twitter.com/WowAceCom and https://twitter.com/CurseForge for those who care. |
| 19:00.11 | alestane | I don't feel like running a 36 past 57 dragonkin, do you? |
| 19:00.28 | arkanes_ | I actually have gone that way, and it did suck |
| 19:00.29 | mikma | yes, with friend that has 3 seater |
| 19:00.41 | arkanes_ | I don't remember why I did it |
| 19:01.03 | arkanes_ | NightHawkTheSane: theres a pass through the mountains between searing gorge and badlands besides the tunnel |
| 19:01.13 | NightHawkTheSane | arkanes_: yeah, i just remembered that |
| 19:01.16 | Jamash | I've done the redridge route and it is a bad idea |
| 19:01.16 | mikma | cog|work: almost epic |
| 19:01.27 | NightHawkTheSane | i forgot about BRM, as i hardly ever go in there anymore |
| 19:01.27 | alestane | I tried going that way at level 11, because I had to go to Loch Modan and I didn't know about the tram. |
| 19:01.43 | NightHawkTheSane | but for level appropriate horde to take that route, it'd be absurd |
| 19:02.19 | cog|work | I wonder if the gnome starting area in beta just isn't finished or if they're avoiding spoilers of something coming up on live WRT taking back gnomer... |
| 19:02.42 | NightHawkTheSane | i'd be more inclined to believe the former. |
| 19:02.46 | cog|work | yeah |
| 19:02.47 | Lopeppeppy | I really hope it's the latter!! |
| 19:02.53 | cog|work | yeah |
| 19:03.15 | Fisker | hey Lopeppeppy |
| 19:03.29 | alestane | Not so hey Fisker |
| 19:03.44 | cloudwolf | Does that mean trolls are getting a unique starting zone to then? |
| 19:03.48 | mikma | fisker: hows balls? |
| 19:03.51 | alestane | Yep. |
| 19:03.55 | cloudwolf | because im so used to dwarf+gnome orc+troll start zones heh |
| 19:04.02 | Fisker | not itching mikma |
| 19:04.07 | arkanes_ | I hate the valley of trials so much |
| 19:04.29 | alestane | The interesting thing is that there seems to be this growing trend toward starting areas you don't go back to. |
| 19:04.37 | mikma | fisker: perfect, now, do you wanna scratch them anyway? |
| 19:04.46 | alestane | And by "don't" I mean "can't". |
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| 19:05.02 | cloudwolf | So did blizzard ever get around to buffing racials or is that still in the books? |
| 19:05.10 | arkanes_ | alestane: I think it adds a lot to the story that way |
| 19:05.13 | cloudwolf | because as it stands from what i have heard goblins and worgen have pretty powerfull ones lol |
| 19:05.21 | nicoli_s | wow, we haved 114 million queries on mmo-champion today :) |
| 19:05.30 | mikma | ackis: and by reading i mean "car'e" |
| 19:05.35 | arkanes_ | alestane: the fact that yuo can 'go back' to the BE and draenai areas kinds breaks immersion of the storyline a bit |
| 19:05.56 | Ackis | wot? |
| 19:05.59 | nicoli_s | saved* |
| 19:06.39 | cloudwolf | arkanes i hate needing to go back to exodar for shaman and JC training |
| 19:06.45 | cloudwolf | (on my level 45 shaman lol) |
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| 19:07.10 | foxlit_ | . |
| 19:07.55 | Fisker | hey foxlit |
| 19:07.56 | Gnarfoz | , |
| 19:08.09 | foxlit | whee, 1 second ping to the wireless router. |
| 19:08.30 | foxlit | I suspect it's actually routing me through the downstairs extender, which is painful. |
| 19:08.34 | mikma | fskr'd |
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| 19:08.50 | foxlit | Wonder if I can force it to talk to a particular AP. |
| 19:10.21 | mikma | i wanna fisker my balls |
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| 19:11.13 | Fisker | i wanna fisker you mikma |
| 19:11.40 | mikma | sold |
| 19:11.51 | Gnarfoz | foxlit_: friends don't let friends use wireless |
| 19:12.35 | mikma | jnwhiteh: http://www.flyingpasties.com/flying-pasties.html |
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| 19:22.07 | cloudwolf | lol.... |
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| 19:23.32 | cloudwolf | OH noes bomb hidden in her vagina because shes obscuring those areas to teh scanner! |
| 19:25.47 | nicoli_s | whars that nsfw tag? |
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| 19:27.05 | cloudwolf | >.> i just remembered that episode of dead like me where the guy has the condom full of heroin pop in his rectum lol.... |
| 19:27.29 | cloudwolf | and because he can't OD due to being already dead that would make the worst weeks of your life |
| 19:27.43 | cbreak | rubber? they should use lead. |
| 19:28.04 | A-KO | dead like me |
| 19:28.09 | A-KO | that was a rather really weird show |
| 19:28.12 | A-KO | the girl was cute though |
| 19:28.14 | A-KO | I give it that |
| 19:28.30 | A-KO | that show reminded me of the weird types of dreams I'd have as a little kid |
| 19:28.39 | A-KO | one minute I'm doin really weird shit, next minute, completely normal situation |
| 19:28.40 | A-KO | lol |
| 19:28.45 | cloudwolf | heh |
| 19:29.07 | cloudwolf | Dead like me may have been weird as hell but didn't prevent me from getting all the seasons lol |
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| 19:32.30 | ckknight | I only watched the first season |
| 19:32.39 | cloudwolf | Does any one know what UPS charges for sending stuff from canada to united states? |
| 19:32.56 | cloudwolf | ckkknight it hink they got 3 seasons and a movie out of it |
| 19:33.07 | cloudwolf | make that 2 seasons |
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| 19:34.38 | alestane | That answer is still win..."What's a [Cockroach] good for, anyway?" "...the best use there is for in-game gift wrap." |
| 19:36.54 | cloudwolf | speaking of weird time to watch invader zim... lol |
| 19:38.02 | Lopeppeppy | cloudwolf, last time I went to UPS the charge depended on package size as much as destination. |
| 19:38.15 | Fisker | hey ckknight |
| 19:38.25 | ckknight | hey Fisker |
| 19:38.39 | cloudwolf | Lopeppeppy the reason im curious is i found a website thats in canada that has super cheaply price electronics |
| 19:38.44 | cloudwolf | like 1000 resistors for like 10 bucks lol |
| 19:38.58 | Lopeppeppy | Factor that you have to pay customs on those kinds of things too. |
| 19:38.59 | mikma | hay farmer |
| 19:39.11 | cloudwolf | Some one said no customs from canada to us |
| 19:39.17 | cloudwolf | but i could be wrong |
| 19:39.24 | cloudwolf | or atleast on electronics there may not be heh |
| 19:40.04 | Lopeppeppy | I've paid customs/duty/whatever you want to call it, so you should check with the company you want to buy from. They should know. |
| 19:40.48 | Fisker | noooooooooooooo |
| 19:41.29 | cloudwolf | http://dipmicro.com/shipping :D thats all i know from the website |
| 19:41.33 | cloudwolf | may have to contact them heh |
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| 19:47.58 | Lopeppeppy | Seems pretty clear to me. If there is duty/customs it looks to have been already added in. "no additional fees" |
| 19:49.16 | Gnarfoz | that's not for them to decide, so I'd not be so sure |
| 19:51.30 | rikai | Most companies take duty/customs into account when shipping internationally. :P |
| 19:51.54 | Gnarfoz | rikai: not really |
| 19:52.18 | Gnarfoz | since they can't really know for sure what the customs will cost -_- |
| 19:53.10 | Gnarfoz | the EU has a pretty thorough page on what goes in what category, I've yet to successfully figure out customs on anything I've ordered internationally from that page, though |
| 19:58.14 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWXtq8mkYg8 |
| 19:59.33 | rikai | Gnarfoz: i've never had a problem ordering internationally. Maybe i've just been lucky. |
| 20:03.41 | alestane | I don't know if there's enough help in the world for this poor sod: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26258615633&sid=1 |
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| 20:05.44 | cloudwolf | my friends dad was a clicker and is a clicker |
| 20:05.48 | cloudwolf | and id ont think he pvps or raids |
| 20:05.52 | cloudwolf | also clickers make me sad |
| 20:06.32 | cbreak | http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2010/07/bp-locking-in-scientists-research-to-prep-for-lawsuits.ars |
| 20:07.10 | alestane | It's not his clicking, it's his complete failure to grasp that he's being offered answers. |
| 20:08.21 | cloudwolf | lol well that too |
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| 20:13.25 | krka | what's up with the beta now? |
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| 20:14.10 | Ressy | maintenance. |
| 20:14.24 | Ressy | rolling out the new battle.net site. |
| 20:16.58 | krka | aww |
| 20:17.09 | krka | the only time i have to play, and it's unavailable :( |
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| 20:21.19 | Maldivia | hmm, beta maintenance... will this mean new patch again,hmm |
| 20:21.26 | Maldivia | yes it does : |
| 20:21.34 | Maldivia | build 12604 |
| 20:21.40 | Torhal | Maldivia: And not a bicycle tire patch, either! |
| 20:22.05 | Ressy | Think they're fixing crashes. Datth posted theres a new fix for Intel 945 users who are crashing. |
| 20:22.25 | Maldivia | and probably the realmlist.wtf file as well :P |
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| 20:22.34 | EthanCentaurai | I wonder if they've also fixed the faceless Worgen |
| 20:22.38 | Lopeppeppy | Oh god, no more patches! |
| 20:22.39 | alestane | Friend's FB Status: ["Hood or tongue?" is the IM status for someone on my contact list. I assume they mean piercing...] |
| 20:22.52 | Lopeppeppy | cries. She hasn't even patched all the way up to last week yet! |
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| 20:25.21 | zenzelezz | faceless worgen? And here I thought the faceless ones were some old god abomination creatures |
| 20:25.27 | Maldivia | about 110mb patch |
| 20:25.41 | KarlKFI|work | better than the 1gb+ beta patch |
| 20:25.51 | Maldivia | hmm, actually |
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| 20:26.22 | EthanCentaurai | zenzelezz: http://bit.ly/9FZmLs |
| 20:26.36 | kd3 | yay |
| 20:26.37 | Maldivia | larger it seems |
| 20:26.40 | kd3 | my script's doing its job <3 |
| 20:26.53 | Maldivia | kd3, watch out - not all scrapes are up yet :P |
| 20:28.18 | Bibi | Maldivia: aw? |
| 20:28.19 | Bibi | :( |
| 20:28.35 | kd3 | looks like my mirror got it. haven't hit a 404 yet >.> |
| 20:28.44 | Maldivia | was downloading, and then it stopped around piece 330, and continuued pickung up at 400 again |
| 20:28.55 | kd3 | in other news, all three new zones are at least partially documented on the wiki now |
| 20:30.07 | EthanCentaurai | I love the Kelp Forest |
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| 20:32.26 | cloudwolf | *kicks blizzard in the soon* |
| 20:32.39 | Ackis | soon? |
| 20:32.44 | Ackis | ohh baby touch my soon |
| 20:32.45 | Ackis | rawr |
| 20:34.03 | NightHawkTheSane | kicks Ackis in the soon |
| 20:35.29 | cloudwolf | lol beta key made me go yay then non working battle.net mademe go awww. Now im still aww but slowly giving up caring :D |
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| 20:54.17 | Maldivia | Adys: you're late :P |
| 20:54.26 | Adys | yeah i was in the shower thank you |
| 20:54.44 | Ackis | we saw |
| 20:54.44 | Ackis | ;) |
| 20:55.20 | Torhal | Adys: Would you like to file a restraining order? |
| 20:55.39 | Ackis | it's already in process |
| 20:55.47 | Torhal | Heh |
| 20:56.55 | Ackis | where did peppy go? |
| 20:57.13 | Fisker | did i hear shower? |
| 20:57.19 | Jamash | what |
| 20:57.28 | Jamash | did I miss something? |
| 20:58.29 | Ressy | whoa.. They made it so you needed your auth to login to the forums.. o.O |
| 20:58.35 | Jamash | argh |
| 21:00.56 | Jamash | yay my winder rider cub just arrived |
| 21:01.35 | cloudwolf | grats jamash |
| 21:01.50 | Jamash | it's a birthday present from my guild leader :D |
| 21:02.03 | Ackis | so you're a girl then? |
| 21:02.08 | Ackis | :P |
| 21:02.19 | Jamash | no but my sister is |
| 21:02.34 | cloudwolf | lol whos your guild leader? cus if you don't know them irl thats kinda creepy :D |
| 21:02.42 | Jamash | we all worked together at one time |
| 21:02.46 | Jamash | it's how we met |
| 21:02.47 | cloudwolf | k |
| 21:06.43 | Adys | Today, I found out my dog has an abscessed anal gland. Not only does this mean she is constantly leaking a mix of dark anal matter and blood all over my house, but I also have to hold a compress on it three times a day and apply a cream to it. I was told it will take at least a month to heal. FML |
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| 21:07.49 | cog|work | ahhh anal glands |
| 21:08.01 | Torhal | I'm so happy that gross stuff doesn't bother me while I eat. |
| 21:08.12 | nicoli_s | ouch adys |
| 21:08.21 | kd3 | lmao |
| 21:08.30 | kd3 | "-- Temporary Hack (copy of a "temporary" 6 year hack)" |
| 21:08.33 | kd3 | ouch, adys |
| 21:08.46 | Ressy | I had a dog who had issuse with her anal glands. Had to be drained every few months. |
| 21:08.49 | Adys | I think we have an all-time winner |
| 21:09.11 | Ackis | remember when I was talking about anal glands a few months ago? :P |
| 21:09.17 | Ackis | my dog "blew" one of his |
| 21:09.29 | Ackis | so he was scooting, and it was like he was a snail |
| 21:10.07 | cog|work | developmentally, anal glands are the same structure as skunk scent glands |
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| 21:10.47 | Adys | Cairenn: Topic this: [22:07:49] <cog|work> ahhh anal glands |
| 21:11.28 | Maldivia | Adys: just teach it to purl :P |
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| 21:11.41 | eidolarr | is something packaged once, when it is submitted, or will my addon be automatically repackaged when its externals are? |
| 21:12.33 | eidolarr | on curse |
| 21:13.38 | durcyn | there was talk of repackaging on include bumps if you set the relationship correctly, not sure if it ever came to fruition |
| 21:14.16 | eidolarr | so right now it doesn't do that? once it's packaged once, that's the download you'll always get, until you update? |
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| 21:15.02 | Torhal | eidolarr: Packages are static. If a library is updated and you want to take advantage of it, you'll need to make a new commit, even if it's adding a space to the end of a line somewhere. |
| 21:15.11 | Torhal | commit/tag |
| 21:15.14 | Arrowmaster | ckk once said it was supposed to repackage the latest alpha version if externals were updated but i dont think we ever verified if that was true and it worked |
| 21:15.25 | Maldivia | what, lifeblood is now a haste buff as well as a heal! |
| 21:15.38 | Torhal | Maldivia: o.O |
| 21:15.56 | cloudwolf | I assume that means the beta update is done? |
| 21:15.57 | durcyn | afaik it hasn't been done since the oldsvn packager started appending decimals years ago |
| 21:16.00 | eidolarr | one more question: since you can't tag alphas, and you have to have to have a tag to specify a particular commit of an external to package, does that mean you can't specify an alpha to package? |
| 21:16.07 | Fisker | slaps Maldivia around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:16.14 | Maldivia | cloudwolf: the patch is out, yeah |
| 21:16.30 | cloudwolf | <= can't download beta blizzard borked the keys |
| 21:16.33 | Torhal | eidolarr: Your project settings allow you to package on alpha, beta, or release, beta and release, or release only |
| 21:16.47 | Torhal | Just look at Project management |
| 21:16.55 | eidolarr | right, let me try again |
| 21:17.07 | eidolarr | say I have addon X and library Y |
| 21:17.12 | eidolarr | X is release, Y is alpha |
| 21:17.24 | eidolarr | because Y is undergoing rapid change, I want it to package a specific alpha that I know is tested |
| 21:17.34 | eidolarr | but because Y is alpha, it has no tags (right?) |
| 21:17.36 | durcyn | what do you mean by "specify a particular commit of an external", the packager pulls whatever you specify in pkgmeta |
| 21:17.39 | Torhal | Correct |
| 21:17.49 | Maldivia | looking over some of the changes, mostly minor tweaks to the warrior and paladin talent trees, mage spells tooltip got updated a but, and new passives for shaman as well |
| 21:18.06 | eidolarr | is it possible to say "I want you to always package commit 447ebf" much like saying "always package the tag 1.7" |
| 21:18.20 | Torhal | eidolarr: in that case you need to slap the developer for not tagging betas, or slap him/her for having a long streak of bad alphas. |
| 21:18.20 | Maldivia | And the Abyssal Manta is now a.... drummroll.... Abyssal Seahorse |
| 21:18.20 | Arrowmaster | maybe but only if the external is svn |
| 21:18.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Maldivia: how big is the patch, and mind indulging my curiosity about the new shaman passives? |
| 21:18.57 | Torhal | Really, though, there should be very few libs that you're pulling alphas. |
| 21:18.59 | durcyn | Maldivia: does it have that horrible animation then? |
| 21:19.00 | eidolarr | Torhal: well it's my library >.> |
| 21:19.02 | kd3 | 109MB |
| 21:19.08 | Torhal | eidolarr: Easier to smack... |
| 21:19.10 | kd3 | updates his patchlist on-wiki |
| 21:19.13 | eidolarr | hahaha |
| 21:19.25 | durcyn | eidolarr: then tag it, godamn. |
| 21:20.06 | Legorol | the beta installer insists on doing download and install at the same time. is there a way to force it to do just downloading? |
| 21:20.14 | Maldivia | NHTS: 110MB, elemental got a passive +coeef to their spells, Elemental Mastery is now also +dmg% as well as haste buff |
| 21:20.55 | Maldivia | NHTS: and Ancestral Swiftness is back :) |
| 21:20.57 | Torhal | Adys: Is there a magical ritual that will allow me to play WoW without having to roll back to a previous kernel? (that's the easy part, the harder part is downgrading my nVidia drivers to work with the older kernel) |
| 21:21.07 | durcyn | Maldivia: i'm serious, i almost threw up on that one quest where you escape on a seahorse, is the mount that bad? >_< |
| 21:21.24 | eidolarr | durcyn: I may do that, but it seems weird given that the library is still experimental and being changed dramatically and frequently |
| 21:21.27 | Adys | Torhal, there's a wine hack up if you revert to rc2, apply the patch and dunno what else |
| 21:21.30 | kd3 | hopefully they fixed the animation then |
| 21:21.32 | durcyn | eidolarr: so tag it beta. |
| 21:21.37 | kd3 | because yeah, it was bad |
| 21:21.39 | Adys | i only got the bug at first |
| 21:21.40 | Maldivia | durcyn: haven't seen how it actually looks in game yet, so can't tell |
| 21:21.45 | Adys | kd3 told me to use wldap32. |
| 21:21.48 | Adys | coughs on kd3 |
| 21:22.00 | durcyn | Torhal: are nvidia blobs still not DKMS? |
| 21:22.02 | kd3 | hey, I tried it. it worked. it's a red herring |
| 21:22.11 | Torhal | Adys: Hrm. Everything I've been reading is saying that patch no longer works (and was intended for SC2) |
| 21:22.22 | Adys | yeh it was |
| 21:22.33 | Adys | its the same dll called on login |
| 21:22.51 | Torhal | durcyn: 195 will compile against 2.6.34, but not 2.6.32 (which is the kernel version where WoW works fine) |
| 21:22.53 | Maldivia | and new Decks!! |
| 21:23.10 | Torhal | I need to roll back to 190 to get my old kernel to run X. |
| 21:23.15 | eidolarr | durcyn: it's weird because philosophically it is not beta |
| 21:23.20 | frontendloader | Adys: are you getting hangs at connecting? |
| 21:23.28 | durcyn | eidolarr: your philosophy is wrong then |
| 21:23.36 | frontendloader | or do I need to scroll up a bit more |
| 21:23.43 | Adys | frontendloader: no |
| 21:23.58 | Adys | but dunno cant really help you with this |
| 21:23.58 | Adys | but |
| 21:24.02 | Maldivia | Hurricane Deck (Combine the Ace through Eight of Waves to complete the set.), Earthquake Deck (Combine the Ace through Eight of Stones to complete the set.), Tsunami Deck (Combine the Ace through Eight of Waves to complete the set.) |
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| 21:24.05 | Torhal | eidolarr: It's your lib, so you need to get that shit working right before you start tagging new versions on the AddOn which uses it :) |
| 21:24.08 | Adys | there is a new kernel up and afaik its been backported everywhere |
| 21:24.13 | Adys | to be fair |
| 21:24.19 | Xyphoid | good to see they're not mixing up the darkmoon thing at all |
| 21:24.24 | Adys | i think more or less half of the linux community plays wow or something |
| 21:24.36 | Adys | this was backported faster than a security fix: |
| 21:24.37 | Adys | :p |
| 21:24.38 | Maldivia | Cloth Specialization - Increases your Intellect by x% while wearing only Cloth armor. |
| 21:25.02 | Torhal | I'm starting to think I need to run the Gentoo unstable branch - seems everything that's new doesn't hit stable for two weeks to three months. |
| 21:25.19 | durcyn | haha what, are they seriously giving that to druid casters |
| 21:25.31 | olafski | unlikely |
| 21:25.35 | Xyphoid | paladins more likely |
| 21:25.35 | Maldivia | 4 different Leather specializations (int, stam in bear, agi in cat, agi) |
| 21:25.39 | frontendloader | My WoW in wine is still broken, I've tried so many things, different kernel versions, different wine versions, different native dlls |
| 21:25.41 | Xyphoid | (rofl) |
| 21:25.59 | *** join/#wowuidev Nobgul (~mcdonalds@unaffiliated/nobgul) |
| 21:26.25 | Torhal | frontendloader: Well, with 3.3.5 I could get into WoW half the time under kernel 2.6.32 - apparently 2.6.33 broke things badly so now it's 100% lockout. |
| 21:26.29 | Maldivia | ohh, forgot Volcanic Deck before ( Ace through Eight of Embers ) |
| 21:26.46 | Fisker | slaps Torhal around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:26.48 | *** join/#wowuidev |stefan| (~stefan@80.245.231.198) |
| 21:26.50 | NightHawkTheSane | I suspect cloth spec exists for balance purposes, so they can give leather/mail/plate spec to other classes? |
| 21:26.55 | frontendloader | I'm running 2.6.35-8-generic #13~lucid1-Ubuntu right now |
| 21:26.57 | frontendloader | to no avail |
| 21:26.59 | Fisker | Someone posted a fix earlier Torhal |
| 21:27.13 | Ackis | "So what have we learned from the Gulf Oil Spill? Never send an oil company to do a Death Starâs job." lulz |
| 21:29.43 | cloudwolf | But Ackis i think BP put just about as much research into fixing problems as the makers of the death star did |
| 21:30.27 | kd3 | news |
| 21:30.30 | Fisker | slaps kd3 around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:30.35 | kd3 | hyjal/vashj'ir are now 80-82, not 78-82 |
| 21:32.17 | Ackis | cloudwolf: I totally stole that from you |
| 21:32.31 | cloudwolf | whu? |
| 21:32.52 | cloudwolf | whatdya steal from meh? |
| 21:33.02 | Ackis | what you said |
| 21:33.23 | Torhal | frontendloader: 2.6.32 and below seems to be the WoW-stable kernels. |
| 21:33.23 | Legorol | why can't wizard oils be applied to heirlooms? |
| 21:33.32 | Maldivia | because heirlooms are ilevel 1 |
| 21:33.36 | cloudwolf | but what i typed was in reply to sending an oil company to a deathstars job lol |
| 21:33.44 | Dagmar | kd3: Sounds even more like the place to beeline it for |
| 21:33.56 | Legorol | Maldivia: but wizard oils have no ilevel restriction |
| 21:34.16 | Legorol | or rather i should say, they have an upper cap, not a lower one |
| 21:34.20 | Legorol | they are not enchants |
| 21:35.15 | Dagmar | It should work, afaik. I thought they worked the same as the warlock stones |
| 21:36.48 | Legorol | Dagmar, i get a "too low level" error |
| 21:37.34 | Dagmar | Ah, I see on Thottbot, it's missing the tooltip text |
| 21:38.01 | Legorol | what is it missing? |
| 21:38.07 | Dagmar | Oddly it does require a weapon that requires _you_ to be 40 |
| 21:38.17 | Legorol | O.o |
| 21:38.23 | Legorol | that's not possible |
| 21:38.27 | Dagmar | Yeah, that's not the usual way they go about it |
| 21:38.31 | Legorol | i can enchant low level greens afaik |
| 21:38.33 | Dagmar | At least, not anymore |
| 21:38.46 | foxlit_ | similar to how disenchanting works |
| 21:38.50 | Legorol | i have just tried: |
| 21:39.27 | Legorol | i have a Hydrocane (min. lev. req. 27, ilvl 32), i am level 40, and i have Lesser Wizard Oil (requires user to be min. lvl. 30) |
| 21:39.30 | NightHawkTheSane | er, I think the oils have a minimum char restriction use, not weapon restriction |
| 21:39.32 | Legorol | it worked just fine |
| 21:39.45 | Dagmar | I'm tempted to go check it myself now |
| 21:39.47 | Dagmar | This is weird |
| 21:39.54 | Legorol | but the oil doesn't work on heirloom staff |
| 21:40.15 | Legorol | i remember DK rune forges not working on heirlooms, but i forgot the reason for it |
| 21:40.34 | Maldivia | didn't they fix that though? |
| 21:40.36 | NightHawkTheSane | i think that was ilvl based |
| 21:40.43 | Legorol | no idea, Maldivia |
| 21:41.01 | Dagmar | Well, it's not that exciting an issue anyway because seriously... |
| 21:41.12 | Legorol | dagmar: to me it is! :o) |
| 21:41.13 | *** join/#wowuidev cyndis (cyndis@lakka.kapsi.fi) |
| 21:41.23 | Dagmar | You start out with badass everything and keep getting more thrown at you for quite a few levels |
| 21:41.24 | Legorol | bugs.. cough.. "issues" are bad mkay |
| 21:41.27 | Maldivia | kd3: seen the HP bump for level 80 mobs ? |
| 21:41.37 | kd3 | ya. double, roughly |
| 21:41.51 | Legorol | cool, so it will take 3 GCDs to kill them instead of 2? |
| 21:42.04 | kd3 | lol. 30k health in 3 gcds? |
| 21:42.07 | Maldivia | Legorol: level 80 mobs start at around 41k |
| 21:42.09 | Maldivia | 31k* |
| 21:42.10 | kd3 | only if I get back-to-back-to-back crits |
| 21:42.35 | Maldivia | kd3: if you're a hunter, then sure, considering you have 12 seconds of auto-shot before you can use the 3rd :P |
| 21:42.49 | Dagmar | That'll make pulling 8 mobs at a time more interesting |
| 21:43.12 | Legorol | 31k in 3 GCDs (4.5 seconds) is 6.9k dps |
| 21:43.22 | Legorol | admittedly that's not that easy to pull off solo, |
| 21:43.26 | Legorol | but not an unreasonable number either |
| 21:43.30 | Dagmar | My guess is they're probably going to drop that back down once the glut of people stuck at 80 rolls past it |
| 21:43.36 | Legorol | i often kill mobs in two GCDs |
| 21:43.51 | Legorol | (right now that is, not in beta) |
| 21:44.07 | Dagmar | We're all geared like boss mobs compared to the PvE trash dotting the landscape |
| 21:44.21 | Legorol | idd |
| 21:44.24 | Nobgul | Beta is down? |
| 21:44.28 | kd3 | yar |
| 21:44.30 | kd3 | new patch inc |
| 21:44.36 | Nobgul | another one lol |
| 21:44.43 | Nobgul | i just finished the last patch now =P |
| 21:44.43 | cog|work | the ink from the last one hasn't even dried yet |
| 21:44.55 | kd3 | the last patch was just a roll-up. today's is an actual content patch |
| 21:45.00 | Maldivia | well, the previous one was from July 14th, this one is from July 21st :P |
| 21:45.05 | Dagmar | Not sure how much fun getting to 81 would still be if I could just blaze across the land like a nuclear winter like I can *now* all over Northrend |
| 21:45.05 | Nobgul | i just read on wowhead that all *80+ mobs are getting a health double |
| 21:45.17 | Fisker | you gotta be kidding me? |
| 21:45.19 | Nobgul | No |
| 21:45.22 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26262766074&sid=2000 |
| 21:45.24 | Fisker | It's annoying enough they're running around with 20k hp |
| 21:45.26 | Fisker | but 40k |
| 21:45.27 | Fisker | lol. |
| 21:45.32 | kd3 | 16k->30k |
| 21:45.32 | Nobgul | Level 80 (OLD) |
| 21:45.33 | Nobgul | 16400 |
| 21:45.33 | Nobgul | Level 80 (NEW) |
| 21:45.33 | Nobgul | 31000 |
| 21:45.37 | Nobgul | heh |
| 21:45.39 | Fisker | naw |
| 21:45.42 | Fisker | I did hyjal yesterday |
| 21:45.56 | Fisker | <80 was ~12k |
| 21:45.58 | Fisker | 80 was 20 |
| 21:46.00 | Fisker | 81 was 30 |
| 21:46.16 | Dagmar | Fisker: Please. Unless you just turned 80 yesterday, you should be able to drop a 20khp mob in under ten seconds |
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| 21:46.17 | Niv | uhh |
| 21:46.19 | kd3 | they're also redoing hyjal/vashj'ir. they're now lv80-minimum, not 78 |
| 21:46.21 | Niv | there were 50k+ mobs |
| 21:46.35 | Fisker | yeah Niv |
| 21:46.37 | Fisker | still lame |
| 21:46.38 | Maldivia | ohh, they changed the forums to require authenticator now - well, if they would just trottle the login attempts instead so yuo can't use forum login to bruteforce, that would be a lot better |
| 21:46.46 | Fisker | and i didn't say they were hard Dagmar |
| 21:47.04 | Legorol | bah, wowhead comments say that wizard oils have minimum user level *and* min. ilvl restriction too |
| 21:47.06 | Niv | so we got another beta patch? |
| 21:47.07 | Niv | sweet |
| 21:47.08 | Nobgul | Maldivia, we wont be able to login without a authenticator? |
| 21:47.16 | Legorol | 30 for both in case of lesser wizard oil |
| 21:47.18 | Dagmar | Now, if they said "80+ mobs will now hit for double damage" *then* it might pose a problem |
| 21:47.24 | kd3 | if you've got one attached, it's asking for it. if not, no worries |
| 21:47.28 | Legorol | which is why i could put it on blue Hydrocane, which is only level 27 but ilvl 32 |
| 21:47.32 | Fisker | Dagmar not really |
| 21:47.32 | Maldivia | Nobgul: had to use my authenticator to post on the forums just now |
| 21:47.34 | Fisker | but that's my point |
| 21:47.39 | Fisker | they hit for like 200 |
| 21:47.42 | Nobgul | Eh no worries just a pain in the arse is all |
| 21:47.44 | Fisker | you have 35k hp anyway |
| 21:47.49 | Fisker | why make it a snorefest? |
| 21:48.00 | *** join/#wowuidev flexd (flexd@evsco.net) |
| 21:48.08 | Dagmar | WEll, for one, I can't even get through "a" rotation on my hunter |
| 21:48.27 | Gintaro | Alum FTW! |
| 21:48.32 | Dagmar | The stuff dies too quick |
| 21:48.48 | Gintaro | Who cares about wow, Alien Swarm is where it's at |
| 21:48.57 | Fisker | It's soloing, you're not supposed to run a rotation |
| 21:49.17 | Dagmar | When stuff is dropping about as fast as I can target it and push two buttons, there is no challenge at all |
| 21:49.33 | Dagmar | Doesn't even really matter *which* two buttons as long as I don't rocket myself off a cliff |
| 21:49.35 | Fisker | nerf hunters then |
| 21:49.41 | Nobgul | lol |
| 21:49.52 | Xyphoid | hunters soloing easily when overgeared? |
| 21:49.55 | Xyphoid | what |
| 21:49.58 | Dagmar | ...and they *did* kind of just put in a pile of ways for everyone to get full T9 in a busy weekend |
| 21:50.14 | Dagmar | Yeah, so going into the new zones with that DPS will be a little tedious |
| 21:50.16 | Fisker | Yeah, because people will be getting full T9 in the future |
| 21:50.40 | Dagmar | Even without it when I hit 80 I was throwing out 2000 dps without straining |
| 21:50.52 | Fisker | that i can drop a mob in a couple of seconds(which is exaggerated) is bad when it's a snorefest even there |
| 21:51.04 | Fisker | 2000 dps = 15 second fight |
| 21:51.07 | Fisker | gl with that |
| 21:51.38 | Fisker | give patch btw |
| 21:51.39 | Fisker | kd3 |
| 21:51.42 | Fisker | any guild ui btw? |
| 21:51.53 | Fisker | or wait you still can't see it i guess :o |
| 21:51.54 | Dagmar | Maybe you can't drop a mob your level in a couple seconds, but there's a number of classes who can |
| 21:51.55 | Nobgul | Not that i have read |
| 21:51.56 | kd3 | they've tweaked it. dunno if it's in yet |
| 21:52.00 | kd3 | still waiting on realms to come up |
| 21:52.11 | cloudwolf | can any one link to beta patch notes? XD |
| 21:52.15 | NeoTron | it's good that they now require 80 to hit up the new instances via the dungeon finder |
| 21:52.27 | NeoTron | if only they do the same thing for northrend (i.e needing 70, not 68)... |
| 21:52.57 | NeoTron | leveling my shaman I healed a 68 tank with 9k health in one of the l70 northrend instances and it wasn't fun |
| 21:53.05 | Nobgul | lol |
| 21:53.13 | Dagmar | You shouldda let the hunter tank |
| 21:53.16 | NeoTron | mainly because if I healed anything at all he lost aggro since he could barely hit the l72 mobs, and he almost died from every hit :P |
| 21:53.32 | flexd | Uh, i have a question: I've never made a addon before, i started fixing someone elses very bad coding yesterday and thats about the lua experience i have.. I got some (much) help from the guys in #lua to make http://codepad.org/nRf26eI4 which works fine there.. But in the addon however it does not |
| 21:54.05 | Niv | Dagmar: btw, leveling arms, I have to reapply rend while killing a single mob |
| 21:54.09 | cloudwolf | flexd go read www.lua.org/pil |
| 21:54.18 | Niv | and bladestorm doesn't kill mob in deepholm or late vashjir |
| 21:54.22 | cloudwolf | also wowwiki contains the api for wow |
| 21:54.25 | Niv | but to be fair, warriors are fucked atm |
| 21:54.29 | flexd | things in the .toc file are included in the same order as there, yet it gives a error |
| 21:54.36 | flexd | cloudwolf: yes i know, have both open already |
| 21:54.37 | Dagmar | Niv: Yeah but Blizz will likely fix that |
| 21:54.49 | Niv | NeoTron: my lvl 65 DK has 11k health iirc |
| 21:54.53 | cloudwolf | flexd your also using a few globals |
| 21:55.02 | cloudwolf | please DO NOT use globals prefix your variables with local |
| 21:55.10 | flexd | It does what i want and i understand how to code, just a bit rusty on lua syntaxes. I have coded in a lot of various languages before. |
| 21:55.11 | Dagmar | Niv: THey finally got Hunters to a much more reasonable level of sorted, you guys are probably next |
| 21:55.18 | Niv | Dagmar: maybe, or maybe the other classes get brought down ;) |
| 21:55.30 | flexd | cloudwolf: i know, that was just to make it work in codepad. |
| 21:55.38 | cloudwolf | k |
| 21:55.43 | Dagmar | Niv: Still woudln't really bother me. |
| 21:55.45 | flexd | local Professional, L = ...; being how it is in the addon |
| 21:56.02 | Niv | Dagmar: my level time was 8-9 hours for 81 -> 82, and 82 -> 83 |
| 21:56.05 | Niv | eahc |
| 21:56.06 | Dagmar | I was one of those freaks in EverQuest doing quad kiting and AoE farming. |
| 21:56.09 | Niv | how long did it take you? |
| 21:56.10 | Dagmar | For me, hard == good. |
| 21:56.14 | NeoTron | Niv: 9-10k isn't amazingly low as a fresh 68 |
| 21:56.16 | NeoTron | really |
| 21:56.28 | Fisker | so are they fucking up paladins yet? |
| 21:56.31 | NeoTron | the main issue was really that he couldn't hit the mobs to generate aggro though |
| 21:56.35 | NeoTron | even more so than health |
| 21:56.36 | Niv | of course neo, no one gears to tank while leveling |
| 21:56.39 | NeoTron | since that meant I had to heal everyone |
| 21:57.05 | Niv | the bigger problem is really just that you shouldn't put players with a 3-4 level gap in the same group |
| 21:57.09 | Niv | which LFD seems to do |
| 21:57.10 | Dagmar | Niv: I'll let you know when I get a freakin' code |
| 21:57.11 | Dagmar | heh |
| 21:57.13 | flexd | cloudwolf: the problem being lprofessions.Skinning[324] (which works fine on codepad) returns Skinning is nil |
| 21:57.28 | Niv | Dagmar: there's a difference between difficult and grind |
| 21:57.34 | Niv | and you shouldn't mistake them |
| 21:57.44 | Dagmar | Niv: 3-4 was doable when I was leveling, just so long as the tank was at least in the middle somewhere |
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| 21:57.54 | Fisker | btw kd3 |
| 21:57.57 | Fisker | how big is the patch? |
| 21:58.04 | kd3 | ~110MB |
| 21:58.08 | Dagmar | Niv: Well, at the moment, against mobs my own level, I *barely have to stop running* on three different toons |
| 21:58.16 | Niv | sure |
| 21:58.17 | NeoTron | Niv: the real issue is the level 68 limit to an instance with mobs that are, at least, level 82 |
| 21:58.18 | Niv | on LIVE |
| 21:58.18 | kd3 | I'll keep www.wowwiki.com/User:Kaydeethree/patches updated throughout the beta |
| 21:58.18 | Niv | right? |
| 21:58.21 | Fisker | giev kd3 |
| 21:58.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Niv: it's not a matter of the level disparity |
| 21:58.22 | Dagmar | yeah. |
| 21:58.27 | Niv | live != beta |
| 21:58.27 | NeoTron | 4 levels higher is some serious miss rate + crushing blows |
| 21:58.30 | Niv | they have way more health in beat |
| 21:58.33 | Niv | beta* |
| 21:58.33 | Ressy | kd3, how do you always get the patch downloaded & extracted before it even shows up on the downloader? |
| 21:58.37 | kd3 | magic |
| 21:58.39 | Dagmar | Niv: I've no problem with them having way more health |
| 21:58.44 | Fisker | fucking webseeds |
| 21:58.46 | Fisker | how do they work? |
| 21:58.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Niv: it's more a matter of tank level wrt to the instance, and healer level wrt the tank |
| 21:58.52 | kd3 | also, that ^ |
| 21:59.03 | Dagmar | Niv: If anything it might keep me from being as flamboyant about leveling as I was for Wrath |
| 21:59.05 | NeoTron | 110 MB, so that basically covers a patch to fix the realmlist file? :P |
| 21:59.08 | Fisker | it's about 2 lines of code in bash or something :P |
| 21:59.17 | Niv | making leveling longer doesn't make anyone happy but you :) |
| 21:59.23 | Dagmar | Niv: Seriously, when a quest NPC asked for me to kill 12 of something, I'd go off and round 12 up to kill simultaneously. |
| 21:59.30 | Fisker | eleventy billion lines of code in powershell |
| 21:59.34 | Niv | Dagmar: talk to me again when you're 83 |
| 21:59.43 | Niv | and honestly, I don't care |
| 22:00.00 | Niv | having mobs take 30+ seconds to kill each is lame |
| 22:00.05 | NeoTron | So Aion mobs died way to fucking slowly but wow mobs, especially high end, die way too easily |
| 22:00.21 | Niv | did you do deepholm yet neo? |
| 22:00.21 | NeoTron | Niv: but that's your class being broken, can't hardly use that as an excuse |
| 22:00.25 | NeoTron | nope |
| 22:00.33 | Niv | I'd be curious what you thought there |
| 22:00.36 | NeoTron | but do uou remember the quest to kill that giant in vashj'ir? |
| 22:00.41 | Fisker | The problem with Aion wasn't as much as they died slowly as they were dangerous |
| 22:00.44 | NeoTron | where you have to "shrink" him first? |
| 22:00.46 | flexd | cloudwolf: http://pastie.org/1056138 :-) |
| 22:00.47 | Niv | in the starter zones they didn't have a lot of health |
| 22:00.51 | Nobgul | NeoTron: that quest sucked |
| 22:00.52 | kd3 | 'course, deepholm doesn't have loot. that does make it tough |
| 22:00.55 | Fisker | you could brely take 2 mobs without regenning |
| 22:00.58 | Fisker | barely* |
| 22:01.05 | Niv | NeoTron: I killed him elite on accident |
| 22:01.09 | NeoTron | well I failed to get the debuffon him since I aggrod him or something else and it broken on combat |
| 22:01.12 | Dagmar | lol |
| 22:01.18 | NeoTron | so I killed him like 4 times without the debuff |
| 22:01.20 | Dagmar | Yeah see, that's a problem |
| 22:01.25 | Fisker | The problem with WoW is that they're like increasing the HP 2-3fold but the damage is neglible so it's just a giant waste of time |
| 22:01.26 | Niv | that's just that mob though neo |
| 22:01.27 | NeoTron | and it wasn't really hard |
| 22:01.33 | Niv | get out of the kelp forest |
| 22:01.33 | kd3 | which is probably getting fixed today too |
| 22:01.34 | Fisker | They should reduce hp and increase damage |
| 22:01.38 | Niv | in general, elites aren't very scary in cata |
| 22:01.45 | NeoTron | he hit pretty hard |
| 22:01.45 | Dagmar | If you do something *stupid* like ignore a buff item they give you to kill someone, and *still* get away with it, that's weak |
| 22:01.47 | kd3 | which is also probably getting fixed today |
| 22:01.47 | NeoTron | but he also died fast |
| 22:01.49 | Nobgul | how about the whale shark |
| 22:01.50 | Niv | the real problem I think, is there is so much self healing atm |
| 22:01.54 | NeoTron | and he had like 70-80k health I think |
| 22:01.54 | Dagmar | The game *should* punish you for doing egregiously stupid things. |
| 22:02.01 | cloudwolf | flexd im sorry i'm sure i could help if i knew how to get profession information :D but right now my brains is in semi shutdown mode |
| 22:02.03 | NeoTron | thus 30-40k health is really not too much |
| 22:02.07 | Niv | dude, the normal mobs have that much health in deepholm |
| 22:02.11 | NeoTron | I'd love kills that takes more than 2-3 shots |
| 22:02.15 | Niv | it takes forever |
| 22:02.17 | NeoTron | where I can at least pretend to have a rotation |
| 22:02.22 | flexd | cloudwolf: oh, i am getting the profession info |
| 22:02.25 | NeoTron | vs using the skill that's currently not on cooldown |
| 22:02.25 | flexd | that is not a problem : |
| 22:02.32 | Niv | I'd round up 2-3 mobs, bladestorm w/ sweeping strikes, and then spend another 30 seconds finishing them off |
| 22:02.40 | Fisker | beta is trying to launch the patcher |
| 22:02.43 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: i wouldn't mind that either. |
| 22:02.44 | Fisker | but not really succeeding :P |
| 22:02.55 | NeoTron | I'll try warlock again when they fix it so I can pick up my talents |
| 22:03.00 | flexd | cloudwolf: http://pastie.org/1056144 if you need it |
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| 22:03.42 | cloudwolf | flexd i assume your testing this on a character that does have skinning right? |
| 22:03.47 | flexd | Yes |
| 22:03.56 | flexd | The actual detection of skills works fine |
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| 22:04.10 | flexd | I have the skills in a table, so they exist |
| 22:04.19 | flexd | but that is not the issue. |
| 22:04.30 | Fisker | oh well |
| 22:04.36 | Niv | NeoTron: did you ever try to reset your talents? :P |
| 22:04.52 | Fisker | time to sleep for a few hours, then wake up due to an excessive amount of sweat |
| 22:05.04 | Fisker | uses kd3 as a sponge |
| 22:05.08 | kd3 | no thanks |
| 22:05.14 | kd3 | ~whaleshield |
| 22:05.15 | purl | ACTION summons a rather dense leaden whale named Billy Bob to shield kd3 from the blast. |
| 22:05.19 | Fisker | you wish kd3 |
| 22:05.24 | cloudwolf | and you made lprofession.Skinning = {} somewhere in your code correct? |
| 22:05.28 | flexd | cloudwolf: http://flexd.net/skitch/World_of_Warcraft-20100723-000520.png |
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| 22:05.34 | Fisker | So professions in this build or what? |
| 22:05.48 | flexd | lprofession = L['enUS']; |
| 22:06.03 | flexd | so basically lprofession.Skinning = L['enUS'].Skinning |
| 22:06.35 | cloudwolf | The questoin is, is L['enUS'].Skinning a table? |
| 22:07.09 | flexd | http://pastie.org/1056152 |
| 22:07.10 | NeoTron | Niv: no that requires me going somewhere I'm not (I accidently set my hearth in vashj'ir) |
| 22:07.23 | NeoTron | destro is still broken imho anyway\ |
| 22:07.25 | flexd | loaded before localization.core.lua and Frame.lua in the .toc |
| 22:07.46 | cloudwolf | So flexd your calling 374 in your addon which doesn't happen to be a legitamate index |
| 22:07.54 | cloudwolf | because you never set it as an index |
| 22:08.08 | flexd | Thats where this comes in |
| 22:08.09 | flexd | http://pastie.org/1056154 |
| 22:08.30 | flexd | __index functions (function that gets called if the index does not exist) rounds up by 75 |
| 22:08.38 | flexd | so 1 will be come 75, 76 will be 150 |
| 22:08.40 | flexd | and so on |
| 22:08.52 | flexd | 374 will be 375 |
| 22:08.59 | Fisker | goodnight cruel #wowuidev |
| 22:09.22 | Xyphoid | how do you pronounce vashj'ir anyway |
| 22:09.29 | flexd | vash'nir |
| 22:09.32 | flexd | i thin |
| 22:09.33 | flexd | k |
| 22:09.41 | Xyphoid | i always read it as Vashj Jr. |
| 22:09.44 | kd3 | vas-juh-eeer |
| 22:10.03 | kd3 | though the j-sound's not that pronounced |
| 22:10.10 | Niv | vagina ear |
| 22:10.11 | foxlit_ | wash-ear |
| 22:10.13 | cloudwolf | I always seem to flip letters when i can't pronounce something i keep reading it as. vash ih jir |
| 22:10.27 | kd3 | vash-dge-eer |
| 22:10.36 | NightHawkTheSane | the same way you pronounced lady vashj, but with "eer" on teh ennd |
| 22:10.51 | cloudwolf | i pronounce her name just vash heh |
| 22:11.00 | Xyphoid | vasher than thou |
| 22:11.04 | NightHawkTheSane | it really is just vash, with the hint of a j at the end |
| 22:11.05 | cloudwolf | flexed im honestly sorry but i have no idea how to help you |
| 22:11.31 | kd3 | somewhere between vash and vosh |
| 22:11.33 | flexd | cloudwolf: no problem |
| 22:11.38 | flexd | I'll figure it out some how |
| 22:11.51 | flexd | I'm guessing its with how stuff is loaded, or rather in what order. |
| 22:12.15 | NeoTron | so now we know how to pronounce Vashj'ir in 10 different ways |
| 22:12.40 | NightHawkTheSane | (and none of them right? :P) |
| 22:12.42 | kd3 | looks up the IPA |
| 22:13.00 | Niv | the name is said verbally somewhere in game wasn't it? |
| 22:13.04 | NeoTron | well no one likely knows :P |
| 22:14.54 | cloudwolf | thanks alot i can't read vashj'ir with out thinking vagina ear now... |
| 22:15.06 | KarlKFI|work | lol |
| 22:15.09 | Xyphoid | vajazzle? |
| 22:15.35 | KarlKFI|work | vagizzle my nizzle |
| 22:16.07 | KarlKFI|work | IM ON A BOAT! |
| 22:16.08 | Niv | hah |
| 22:16.14 | Gnarfoz | la la la beta key redemption still broken |
| 22:16.25 | Niv | servers are down |
| 22:16.35 | cloudwolf | i'm on a horse... |
| 22:16.42 | Gnarfoz | Niv: so? |
| 22:16.45 | flexd | look at my horse, my horse is amazing! |
| 22:16.56 | foxlit_ | It's full of stars. |
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| 22:17.01 | cloudwolf | >.< lick it i tastes just like raisin |
| 22:17.15 | frontendloader | anyone happen to know of a mirror for the cataclysm install data? |
| 22:17.32 | Niv | that's likely frowned on :) |
| 22:18.26 | kd3 | IPA: vÉÊɪÉr |
| 22:18.31 | kd3 | that's how I pronounce vashj'ir |
| 22:18.35 | kd3 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English |
| 22:18.38 | foxlit_ | /hate IPA |
| 22:19.21 | Zyn | meh, 108mb beta patch |
| 22:19.32 | NightHawkTheSane | shakes his fist at kd3 |
| 22:20.29 | NightHawkTheSane | although, assuming i remember my IPA correctly, yeah, that looks like it |
| 22:20.43 | KarlKFI|work | i took a year of linguistics and then proptly forgot everything i learned |
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| 22:20.51 | KarlKFI|work | promptly* |
| 22:21.01 | KarlKFI|work | same with latin |
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| 22:25.08 | Lopeppeppy | speaking of the beta, is anyone else getting connection error trying to patch? I was kinda hoping to catch up my install tonight! |
| 22:25.42 | cloudwolf | Lopeppeppy your further along than i am |
| 22:25.50 | Gnarfoz | *you're |
| 22:26.05 | cloudwolf | Insert grammar Nazi remark here. |
| 22:26.16 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah... I figure the beta is down for maintenance and that's causing the error. |
| 22:26.17 | Lopeppeppy | I hope. |
| 22:26.57 | alestane | Mine just started downloading from the Launcher. |
| 22:27.09 | cloudwolf | Mine isn't even in my battle.net account yet :D |
| 22:27.25 | Gnarfoz | doesn't need to be... |
| 22:28.02 | Lopeppeppy | frell, alestane. *sigh* |
| 22:28.05 | cloudwolf | Gnarfoz meaning it hasn't accepted my beta key yet |
| 22:28.14 | Lopeppeppy | Launcher doesn't work on this system. |
| 22:28.28 | Gnarfoz | so use BT to load the patch |
| 22:28.44 | Gnarfoz | cloudwolf: yes, that's what you said, and I said something else ;p |
| 22:28.52 | Eluna | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj1Kebp52mw To bad I can't install it. :( |
| 22:28.53 | harl | yt: Unboxing of StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty Collectors Edition |
| 22:29.22 | Lopeppeppy | BT, gnarfoz? |
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| 22:29.33 | cog|work | torrent |
| 22:29.36 | Gnarfoz | Lopeppeppy: bittorrent |
| 22:29.50 | alestane | This one's smaller, at least. |
| 22:29.52 | Gnarfoz | (you'd be using BT anyway, I meant: use a regular client to download it) |
| 22:29.56 | cog|work | that involves having the patcher to extract the torrent from anyway |
| 22:30.19 | cog|work | s/patcher/downloader/ s/anyway/in the first place/ |
| 22:30.22 | Gnarfoz | which... you should get regardless of servers being up or down? |
| 22:30.48 | Ressy | Downloading patch at 380kb/s right now thru the downloader. Not bad. :) |
| 22:30.51 | cog|work | Gnarfoz: it's downloaded by the launcher, which she says doesn't work, or by logging in. |
| 22:30.52 | Fisker | jerk cog|work? |
| 22:31.01 | Gnarfoz | cog|work: there's more than one way to do it |
| 22:31.19 | Gnarfoz | because "logging in" is not accurate |
| 22:31.31 | alestane | Di you go through the connection trouble fix before, Peppy? |
| 22:31.36 | Gnarfoz | it just checks patchlist when you enter random username/password |
| 22:32.01 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, I had just downloaded a micropatch this morning, applied it when I got home. I don't think it's a connection issue. :) |
| 22:32.15 | alestane | It could be though. |
| 22:32.31 | alestane | One of the patches involved a change to how the client connects to the server. |
| 22:32.31 | cog|work | Lopeppeppy: it might be related to this: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?sid=2000&topicId=26227632749 |
| 22:32.42 | Fisker | why so old news btw Eluna ? |
| 22:32.50 | alestane | Yes, that one. |
| 22:33.07 | cloudwolf | cog thats old isnt it |
| 22:33.13 | Eluna | I got mine legally, and not by buying off guys who work at the factory. :P |
| 22:33.18 | Eluna | Hope |
| 22:33.19 | Gnarfoz | and doesn't affect patchlist, AFAIK |
| 22:33.27 | Eluna | Hope the Cata collectors is as awesome. |
| 22:33.28 | cog|work | cloudwolf: if you consider 2 days ago old |
| 22:33.29 | Lopeppeppy | thanks, cogwheel! I'll try that. |
| 22:33.33 | cloudwolf | heh |
| 22:33.45 | Lopeppeppy | I'm a few days behind on patches, so this could be relevant to my interest. |
| 22:33.56 | Gnarfoz | now why does one "root" zip for my phone work and the other doesn't, when they're basically identical :o |
| 22:34.05 | alestane | I was having trouble yesterday morning and it fixed things like a charm for me. |
| 22:34.07 | Jamash | the cata CE will set you on fire when you open it |
| 22:34.10 | cog|work | Gnarfoz: "basically" imo ;) |
| 22:34.19 | Gnarfoz | cog|work: just different versions of the su binary |
| 22:34.44 | Jamash | then deathwing will burst out and destroy your house |
| 22:35.03 | Eluna | And all that for only 69.99 |
| 22:35.11 | Gnarfoz | wtf is c:\aqua_bitmap.cpp |
| 22:35.27 | Gnarfoz | sounds fishy, stuff isn't supposed to be *there* ;p |
| 22:35.42 | cloudwolf | I hope sc2's expansions arn't gonna tottaly scrue battle net games over like how TFT did |
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| 22:35.58 | Lopeppeppy | I love you cogwheel!!!!!! |
| 22:36.02 | cloudwolf | because 2 expansions i dont even know how they are pricing it |
| 22:36.05 | cog|work | RAWR |
| 22:36.05 | Lopeppeppy | downloads some more! |
| 22:36.10 | Gnarfoz | http://pastebin.com/2cRjTPqK |
| 22:36.16 | cog|work | Gnarfoz: told you so :P |
| 22:36.28 | Gnarfoz | cog|work: guessing ftw? |
| 22:36.33 | cog|work | indeed! =) |
| 22:36.35 | cog|work | :P |
| 22:36.38 | Gnarfoz | not sure why realmlist woudl affect patchlist |
| 22:36.54 | Lopeppeppy | It did. It's happy now. I'm happy now. Wheeeee! |
| 22:37.24 | Fisker | when will servers go up again? |
| 22:37.25 | Fisker | i do want |
| 22:37.54 | cloudwolf | Fisker when blizzard gives you a time frame other than soon? :D |
| 22:38.00 | Zyn | the latest beta-build tampers with the "realmlist.wtf" file, so you have to edit the last line to "set portal public-test" again |
| 22:38.33 | Lopeppeppy | thanks, zyn. |
| 22:38.57 | Zyn | goes back to staring at a blank black screen |
| 22:39.13 | Kalroth | like screen like brain!! |
| 22:39.27 | Zyn | my brains black |
| 22:39.31 | Kalroth | (You just got Fiskered) |
| 22:39.32 | alestane | Yay, Peppy! |
| 22:39.47 | alestane | Today's patch is also shorter. |
| 22:40.40 | Eluna | And ofc, one of the better reasons for getting the collectors. :P http://x0.no/1c2o |
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| 22:41.18 | cloudwolf | thor pet? |
| 22:41.25 | Eluna | *grin* |
| 22:41.38 | Lopeppeppy | I regret not getting a CE of the original. I have the other two, I'll get this one too. |
| 22:41.40 | Eluna | It flies around and shoots, cute. |
| 22:42.23 | alestane | Of course, now I've patched and get "Unable to validate game version" when I try to log in. |
| 22:42.55 | Zyn | alestane , realmlist.wtf has been changed again |
| 22:42.59 | Zyn | you have to edit it |
| 22:43.07 | cloudwolf | any one know how much the sc2 expansions will cost? |
| 22:43.43 | Zyn | cost like the first! |
| 22:43.53 | Eluna | In norway it's 799 |
| 22:44.01 | Eluna | UK I'm guessing 79,99? |
| 22:44.04 | Eluna | And US at the same? |
| 22:44.12 | cloudwolf | thats bull shit.... |
| 22:44.20 | cloudwolf | with that cost for an expansion .... |
| 22:44.25 | Eluna | ... |
| 22:44.32 | Eluna | Sorry, $99.99 |
| 22:44.44 | cloudwolf | i don't have enough loyallty to sc to pay that much for the expansions |
| 22:44.48 | Eluna | http://www.amazon.com/Starcraft-II-Wings-Liberty-Collectors-Pc/dp/B002I0JMB8/ref=sr_1_1?s=videogames&ie=UTF8&qid=1279838660&sr=1-1 |
| 22:46.46 | kd3 | emails away |
| 22:47.20 | foxlit_ | kd3: do you keep an archive of the stuff you send? |
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| 22:47.30 | cloudwolf | I just hope that the sc2 expansions arn't going to seperate custom maps like TFT did |
| 22:48.05 | Zyn | I must say I have timing, booking collectors edition a week before release ... fingers cross, butt clenched and a goat sacrificed in the shower cabin |
| 22:48.05 | Zyn | :3 |
| 22:49.44 | cog|work | mmm... mutton |
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| 22:49.56 | alestane | That will depend on whether the expansions introduce new buildings, units or other features to multiplayer, cloudwolf. |
| 22:50.10 | Dashkal | THe prices are that high because they aren't expansions. They're packaging up full games worth of content. |
| 22:50.28 | foxlit_ | Dashkal: arguably, the game they're selling is multiplayer. |
| 22:50.36 | Dashkal | Not to me. I hate multiplayer :P |
| 22:50.53 | foxlit_ | I'll agree that that's a valid viewpoint :) |
| 22:51.32 | Dashkal | But if I push past that, I'll agree that it would be a shame if they segregated multiplayer. |
| 22:51.51 | Dashkal | $180 is a bit of a hefty pricetag for the game if all you want is MP |
| 22:52.28 | alestane | You'd probably be able to play with someone who had the expansions as long as you were doing so on a map with only "vanilla" features. |
| 22:52.30 | MoonWitch | what? |
| 22:52.33 | MoonWitch | damn |
| 22:52.42 | cloudwolf | alestane thats the same with wc3 |
| 22:52.48 | cloudwolf | all i know is it bugs me lol |
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| 22:54.18 | foxlit_ | Willing to tolerate it if the campaign missions are sufficnetly fun, tbh :) |
| 22:54.32 | alestane | They said at BC '08 that basically they'd left themselves with 3 choices: cut the single-player game WAY back, closer to the way it was in the originals; delay release until 2014 or so and ship a behemoth of a game that would probably cost around $150 in any case; or split it up. |
| 22:54.44 | Morkesh | anyone here worked with the hybridscrollframe template? |
| 22:54.48 | Dashkal | As am I. I'll judge the first game and if it's as cool as the hype promises, I won't mind forking out again for the other two. |
| 22:54.56 | Morkesh | looking at blizzards xml it seems there's no real scrollchild |
| 22:55.05 | alestane | Wings of Liberty by itself will still be around the length of the entire Starcraft single-player game. |
| 22:55.24 | MoonWitch | oh wow, first time in a month I was able to finish half a bowl of soup in one go |
| 22:55.31 | MoonWitch | is proud of herself now |
| 22:56.54 | Fisker | http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/07/secunia-apple-07-22-2010.jpg |
| 22:56.58 | Fisker | I'm a PC |
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| 22:58.25 | Mirrormn|L | 's eyes bleed pastel-colored graph lines |
| 22:59.45 | Morkesh | Fisker: it's hardly news though, an apple bug a day is what? 3-4 years old now? where a guy set out to find a vulnerability on macs every day for a month to proove the fanboys wrong |
| 22:59.48 | cog|work | Morkesh: probably to give you control over its creation |
| 23:00.19 | cog|work | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/ScrollFrame/SetScrollChild |
| 23:00.46 | Lopeppeppy | I have one of those types of people at work. I'm still fuming that he spends so much of his valuable workday nitpicking at my docs. |
| 23:00.47 | Morkesh | yeah cog|work :) i looked at the blizards raidinfoframe though and i see no creation of a scrollchild anywhere, may be i'm just blind but searching didn't come up with anything either |
| 23:01.12 | Mirrormn|L | is it oracle on top and then apple second? I can't even discern the colors |
| 23:01.41 | Fisker | old Morkesh |
| 23:02.12 | Morkesh | that's what i meant fisker :P i assume you found the link at newz.dk? |
| 23:02.16 | Fisker | so cog|work |
| 23:02.22 | cog|work | Morkesh: now i'm confused... http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser/live/FrameXML/HybridScrollFrame.xml |
| 23:02.23 | Fisker | lets hope they send my damn SC2 tomorrow? |
| 23:02.24 | Fisker | amirite? |
| 23:02.28 | Fisker | no Morkesh |
| 23:02.32 | Fisker | i don't read shitty sites |
| 23:02.44 | cog|work | Morkesh: there *is* a scrollframe defined in HybridScrollFrameTemplate |
| 23:02.59 | cog|work | s/a scrollframe/a scrollchild/ |
| 23:03.26 | frontendloader | Fisker: how nice of them to put colors really close to eachother on the spectrum right next to eachother |
| 23:03.37 | Morkesh | will look cog|work, i looked at http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser/live/FrameXML/RaidFrame.xml in an attempt to replicate the raid-id expiration browser thing |
| 23:03.55 | Morkesh | and they use the hybridscrollframe template but never in the raidframe.xml or raidframe.lua do i see a child being set |
| 23:04.19 | cog|work | i got confused because you first brought up the topic of HybridScrollFrameTemplate so i figured you might have looked at the source for HybridScrollFrameTemplate before asking ;) |
| 23:04.32 | Morkesh | arh, i should have yeah :( |
| 23:04.50 | Morkesh | but it was 5 in the morning when i worked on this last so sanity was vanishing by the minute |
| 23:05.13 | Morkesh | but by the looks of it, when you use the hybridscrollframe template, it automatically creates a scrollchild then? |
| 23:05.17 | MoonWitch | so my friend suggested a MUD client as first program to write, I am considering laughing with that suggestion... |
| 23:05.45 | durcyn | yes, writing text to a raw socket is pretty complicated. |
| 23:07.04 | cog|work | <ScrollChild><Frame name="$parentScrollChild"> ... |
| 23:07.27 | cog|work | (or ctrl-f ... scrollchild) |
| 23:07.28 | cog|work | :P |
| 23:07.51 | Morkesh | durr -.- pardon me, i'm sleeping hard here |
| 23:07.52 | durcyn | MoonWitch: what you should do is port a SMAUG mud over to lua, with comms and all. |
| 23:08.19 | cog|work | Morkesh: http://gogirlstore.com/molotov-energy-drink-sampler.html imo |
| 23:08.21 | Lopeppeppy | No, no, re-write Rogue! |
| 23:08.49 | Morkesh | cog|work: the pink burns :( you owe me new eyes now |
| 23:08.51 | Xyphoid | heh, a guy i knew ported rogue to Inform |
| 23:09.06 | durcyn | actually that's not a bad idea, has anyone done a NetHack addon yet? |
| 23:09.07 | Lopeppeppy | Why does this patch take 20 minutes no matter what % completion it has? Rawr. |
| 23:09.39 | Morkesh | cog|work: another question which may be equally dumb then, the virtual frames you create in xml, can that be replicated in lua in a smarter way than a for loop to create frames? |
| 23:10.06 | cog|work | nope. templates are pretty much the one thing that you can do in xml that you can't directly do in Lua |
| 23:10.14 | cog|work | although there are plenty of ways of achieving the same goal in Lua |
| 23:11.05 | NightHawkTheSane | durcyn: you know that wouldnt even be THAT hard |
| 23:16.07 | Niv | so I take that mob health increase post to mean they are just boosting the low HP mobs in vashjir/hyjal |
| 23:16.13 | Niv | which is fine |
| 23:16.21 | Morkesh | i hope so |
| 23:16.39 | Morkesh | they seemed fairly weak vs. my elemental shaman |
| 23:16.56 | Niv | deepholm wasn't at all that way |
| 23:17.17 | Niv | but once again, clearly warriors are behind in terms of dmg currently |
| 23:17.27 | Mirrormn | the mob health scaling from 80-83 is completely ridiculous |
| 23:17.37 | Mirrormn | 12000 to 49000 |
| 23:17.43 | Niv | heh |
| 23:17.44 | Niv | well |
| 23:17.50 | Niv | they fucked up the ilvl inflation |
| 23:18.03 | Mirrormn | I'm not sure they fucked it up, it might be intentional |
| 23:18.07 | Niv | no |
| 23:18.15 | Niv | I mean in wrath |
| 23:18.16 | Mirrormn | to prevent raiding in level 80 gear |
| 23:18.19 | Mirrormn | oh |
| 23:18.40 | Niv | there's very little chance I'll be using any of my 277 heroic gear in the first tier of raiding in cata |
| 23:18.48 | Niv | I'm down to 18% avoidance |
| 23:18.52 | Niv | at lvl 83 |
| 23:19.00 | Niv | in more or less full 277 tank gear |
| 23:19.03 | Mirrormn | my crit went down to 10.84% :( |
| 23:19.22 | Niv | yea, but that's like 60%+ to 18% |
| 23:19.23 | Niv | hehe |
| 23:19.33 | Niv | which is fine |
| 23:19.35 | Niv | but shocking |
| 23:20.29 | Mirrormn | at level 83, pretty much everything rating-based is 1/2.89 what it was at level 80 |
| 23:20.49 | Niv | some of it was lost with the talent rework I think |
| 23:21.45 | Mirrormn | well yeah some further stats can be lost in that way but the actually rating conversion changed by a factor of 2.89 |
| 23:21.51 | Mirrormn | *actual |
| 23:22.12 | Niv | I'd be surprised if they all inflated at an equal rate |
| 23:22.18 | Niv | but I haven't really looked at it that closely |
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| 23:30.57 | Lopeppeppy | Holy carp and fishies, batman, I'm patched!!! |
| 23:31.05 | Lopeppeppy | ... and of course it's all still down, so I can't see the sparklies! |
| 23:33.45 | alestane | cheers for Peppy and busses her on the nose! |
| 23:36.42 | Lopeppeppy | Gah. |
| 23:36.46 | Lopeppeppy | You are in time out, mister. |
| 23:37.23 | Mirrormn | new beta patch? |
| 23:37.56 | alestane | Oh right, noses. |
| 23:38.13 | alestane | We had an issue before where noses were concerned. |
| 23:38.30 | Dashkal | any content changes? Or just bug fixes? My normal source is probably busy as hell migrating right now... |
| 23:38.36 | alestane | is suitably recalcitrant. |
| 23:38.46 | Mr_Rabies | is there a way to keep wow from tapering sounds off so closely |
| 23:39.07 | Dashkal | That'd be nice. I can't hear my own char's /silly |
| 23:39.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Dashkal: i think there might be some relatively minor updates to classes |
| 23:39.31 | Dashkal | At least not without cranking wow and muting everything else |
| 23:39.36 | alestane | No, not recalcitrant, wrong word. |
| 23:39.43 | alestane | Repentant. |
| 23:40.23 | NightHawkTheSane | alestane: heh, although recalcitrant is fairly amusing in that context ;) |
| 23:40.56 | Mr_Rabies | do druids have talent trees yet? |
| 23:42.21 | Mirrormn | it's only 108mb, so |
| 23:42.23 | Mirrormn | I don' |
| 23:42.29 | Mirrormn | t expect it to have a ton of stuff |
| 23:42.56 | alestane | Dunno, beta realms still down. |
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| 23:45.38 | Mirrormn | I probably shouldn't have stayed up for 30 hours right before HLK raid =S |
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| 23:52.49 | NightHawkTheSane | feh. just drink more coffee |
| 23:53.44 | KarlKFI|work | i had an amp at lunch and i'm still yawning |
| 23:54.19 | Torhal | feeds Lopeppeppy moar happy pills. |
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| 23:56.08 | kd3 | whee... it's already a min-strength tropical storm |
| 23:56.10 | kd3 | c'mon firecane |
| 23:57.30 | Lopeppeppy | what a coincidence, I just took some of those... |
| 23:57.37 | Lopeppeppy | kd3, you're weird. |
| 23:57.48 | kd3 | you're just now realizing this? |
| 23:57.52 | kd3 | >.> |
