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| 00:05.48 | Mirrormn | that's not that weird, cloudwolf, my church does a seder during passover |
| 00:06.47 | Cloudwolf | I just find it amusing personally |
| 00:07.04 | Cloudwolf | And i understand that some christians do practice passover |
| 00:07.57 | DesertDwarf | Is the CIA.vc thing useful? |
| 00:08.36 | DesertDwarf | I'm setting up a project in WoWInterface and it has a Miscellaneous setting for "Project name for your CIA.vc." |
| 00:08.55 | Mirrormn | is that what they have over in #wowace? |
| 00:09.35 | DesertDwarf | Beats me. There's no explanation on the WoWInterface page except to link you to http://cia.vc/ |
| 00:10.28 | Wobin | if you want irc announcements, I imagine you'd look at the CIA.vc |
| 00:11.01 | DesertDwarf | I think they go to #WoWUIDev-commits. |
| 00:11.02 | Mirrormn | hrm, in #wowace they have an irc bot that announces when people commit to wow repositories, and displays their commit messages |
| 00:11.24 | Mirrormn | it's interesting imo |
| 00:11.25 | DesertDwarf | #curseforge does the same thing, I think. |
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| 00:40.32 | A-KO | /script PRINT("HELLO WORLD!"); |
| 00:40.40 | A-KO | I just wrote the nicest addon in the world! |
| 00:40.42 | A-KO | gimme beta key plx |
| 00:40.44 | Cide | lua> PRINT |
| 00:40.45 | lua_bot | Cide: nil |
| 00:40.46 | Cide | ^ |
| 00:40.54 | A-KO | lol |
| 00:45.24 | Funkeh` | wtb some wow-i approval action |
| 00:46.49 | DesertDwarf | Heh. "Welcome to funkydude's new author portal." -- That's "new" and dated 7-13-2008. :-) |
| 00:47.26 | Funkeh` | :o |
| 00:47.56 | DesertDwarf | Well, it says it's "new" right there in the text. Honest! :-) |
| 00:48.08 | alestane | Jesus certainly did celebrate Passover, Cloudwolf, the Last Supper was a paschal supper. |
| 00:48.36 | alestane | The romans pretty much gave him the night before his crucifixion off on account of it being a religious holiday. |
| 00:48.42 | Funkeh` | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/author-42702.html should be the author portal >.> |
| 00:49.23 | DesertDwarf | "Author Portal" on an addon page says it's at http://www.wowinterface.com/portal.php?uid=42702 |
| 00:49.46 | DesertDwarf | What you linked is the addons for Funkydude, not the portal. |
| 00:49.59 | Funkeh` | I'm not saying that's what you should be saying, I'm saying that's wha tit should be |
| 00:50.04 | alestane | That said, I haven't heard of Christians celebrating Passover, unless You count Messianic Jews, who are a slightly different case. |
| 00:50.08 | Funkeh` | should be seeing* |
| 00:50.21 | DesertDwarf | Oh, OK. |
| 00:50.31 | DesertDwarf | (That was to Funkeh`.) |
| 00:52.01 | DesertDwarf | Funkeh`: Hmm...when you go to funkydude's profile, that means you'd have to make "Addons List" and "Portal" (just below the picture of the spaniel) go to the same page. I wonder if Cairenn or Dolby can do that for you? |
| 00:52.30 | Funkeh` | It doesn't bother me really |
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| 00:52.45 | DesertDwarf | Me neither. I was just commenting on how "new" it was. |
| 00:53.13 | Funkeh` | I'm sure it's the same for most authors |
| 00:53.51 | foxlit | "The list of ninjas is updated through warcraftninjas.com who only add ninjas with proof." << somehow this amuses me |
| 00:55.01 | Funkeh` | god damn those ninjas |
| 00:56.19 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: fix this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_rate_units#Binary_multiples_of_bits |
| 00:57.28 | DesertDwarf | Arrowmaster: Whoa. I learned something new! Except, what does Shirik need to fix? |
| 00:57.37 | Arrowmaster | because it doesnt exist |
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| 00:58.00 | Arrowmaster | whoever created it is an idiot |
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| 00:59.00 | Funkeh` | harsh |
| 00:59.12 | Arrowmaster | bits are never fucking measured in binary |
| 00:59.14 | Arrowmaster | EVER |
| 00:59.30 | DesertDwarf | Arrowmaster: Did you read this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix |
| 00:59.36 | Wobin | alestane: isn't it slightly ironic that the point of passover was that the Angel of Death 'passed over' the homes painted with lamb's blood...? |
| 00:59.43 | Arrowmaster | DesertDwarf: i know all about this stuff |
| 01:00.00 | foxlit | Arrowmaster: and it hurts that nobody cares? :) |
| 01:00.24 | Arrowmaster | it hurts that people are fucking idiots and mess this shit up even more with crap like kibibit |
| 01:00.40 | alestane | It celebrates the escape of Moses and his followers from Pharaoh, Wobin, although that was certainly the focal point. |
| 01:00.57 | foxlit | I think you hit the swear word bingo with that sentence. |
| 01:01.25 | alestane | My Judaic doctrine is rather rusty, but I believe Seder refers to a few of the events that made that up. |
| 01:13.06 | Jerub | I <3 elitistgroup/armory so much |
| 01:13.26 | Jerub | Shadowed: i had a bug report for you btw. |
| 01:14.44 | Jerub | Shadowed: [Purified Shard of the Flame] cmes up as "Unknown" when it's "Caster's, All" - but only when it's got its Scale buddy... just a small thing but it looks odd. |
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| 01:41.11 | A-KO | http://chud.com/articles/articles/21684/1/THE-DEVIN039S-ADVOCATE-WHY-BREAKING-DAWN-MUST-BE-MADE-INTO-A-MOVIE/Page1.html |
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| 01:45.24 | Kraps | happy birthday Wobin |
| 01:47.10 | A-KO | http://i.imgur.com/z3LAx.jpg |
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| 01:49.32 | Wobin | Kraps: thank you |
| 01:51.03 | Mirrormn | uh, isn't breaking dawn already being made into a movie? |
| 01:51.19 | Mirrormn | in fact, not one, but two? |
| 01:51.46 | alestane | The article is from about nine months ago, Mirrormn. |
| 01:51.47 | Wobin | I'll be interested to see how they handle the complete utter fucking crazy |
| 01:52.01 | Mirrormn | ah, gotcha |
| 01:52.38 | Mirrormn | I wanna see the scene where Edward rips open Bella's uterus with his teeth |
| 01:52.44 | Mirrormn | that sounds like classic cinema |
| 01:53.30 | A-KO | I highly doubt they would translate that over to a PG-13 film |
| 01:53.33 | A-KO | just sayin' |
| 01:55.42 | Mirrormn | maybe they'll just rewrite all the gore and pedophilia out and make it about werewolves with no shirts on |
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| 01:56.28 | Wobin | haha |
| 01:56.32 | Wobin | Hey dolby |
| 01:56.48 | dolby | hey Wobin |
| 01:57.03 | Wobin | I can totally see the twihards complaining if they do, cause it's not faithful to the book |
| 01:57.28 | Dagmar | I'd like to see the scene where they all die in an accidental nuclear explosion, and all the fans go home and find something productive to do with their time. |
| 01:57.37 | alestane | huggles Cairenn |
| 01:57.46 | Cairenn | huggles alestane |
| 01:57.51 | Dagmar | I'd buy that on bluray |
| 01:58.05 | Wobin | Dagmar: if all the fans die in that blast, it'll be much more healthy for humanity |
| 01:58.14 | Jerub | Dagmar: what? like complainig about the tank in T9 not holding agro on the kingslayers? |
| 01:58.19 | Jerub | *grumble* |
| 01:58.34 | Dagmar | whaaat? |
| 01:58.38 | Dagmar | Tournament Lance? |
| 01:58.42 | alestane | Meh, Teenyboppers will squee over something. |
| 01:58.43 | Wobin | that was a little out of left field? |
| 01:58.54 | Wobin | alestane: I'm not worried about the teenyboppers |
| 01:59.03 | Wobin | I can understand how they find it fascinating |
| 01:59.07 | Wobin | it's the TwiMoms that scare me |
| 01:59.48 | alestane | Same basic niche behind soap operas and romance novels. |
| 01:59.50 | Dagmar | Jerub: I did catch a tank a few nights ago using his brand new tournament badge weapon |
| 01:59.56 | Jerub | hm, turns out i need to kill marrowgar in icc25 for my next upgrade. |
| 02:00.21 | Dagmar | Weapon skill really needs to be over 100 to tank heroics. |
| 02:00.31 | Jerub | Dagmar: my wife is continually getting lip from idiots who think that a tank should be able to cover all their dps sins. |
| 02:00.43 | ajmitch | it's fun to try & tank heroics with heirloom weapons though |
| 02:00.45 | alestane | Note: you can't build aggro if you can't HIT the boss. |
| 02:01.06 | Jerub | and because she's a paladin she doesn't automatically have agro of all 6 of a large trash pulli |
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| 02:01.47 | Wobin | alestane: It's the TwiMoms that believe that such a relationship is one they want for their daughters |
| 02:02.00 | Dagmar | Jerub: There's an aura for that |
| 02:02.03 | alestane | Well, yeah, that's a bit scary. |
| 02:02.04 | Wobin | soap operas and such at least mostly involve adult relationships |
| 02:02.15 | Wobin | sure, highly weird ones |
| 02:02.27 | Dagmar | Wobin: For varying definitions of "adult" |
| 02:02.33 | alestane | I've seen enough of both to know that's only sort of true, Wobin. |
| 02:02.39 | Jerub | Dagmar: not one that can help the blizzard/volley/thunderstorm that is fired as soon as the fight starts. |
| 02:02.43 | Wobin | Dagmar: well the participants are mostly adult aged |
| 02:02.45 | alestane | Neither is about realism. |
| 02:02.57 | Dagmar | Jerub: Yeah that would ba DPS fail. Gotta wait a bit for the aura to soak in |
| 02:02.58 | Wobin | You don't get many soap operas with teenage relationships |
| 02:03.10 | Wobin | because the target audience is at school |
| 02:03.15 | Wobin | when the soap operas are on |
| 02:03.18 | Jerub | Dagmar: yes. and this is why she's continually getting lip from dps. |
| 02:03.21 | Dagmar | I used to follow a "three sunders" rule before launching into DPS |
| 02:03.25 | Jerub | at least my bear can mash swipe |
| 02:03.33 | Dagmar | Teach 'em a similar thing |
| 02:03.56 | alestane | Except that there are plenty of people who still crave the excitement of a relationship like that, Wobin, even if they're thiry-eight. |
| 02:04.01 | Dagmar | "I'm not going to die if I'm standing there soloing the mob with a healer backing me up, so there is NO RUSH" |
| 02:04.05 | Wobin | alestane: Which is fine |
| 02:04.14 | Wobin | but not when you project that onto your underage child |
| 02:04.26 | Wobin | and hope that they fall in love with a creepy abusive stalker |
| 02:04.33 | Wobin | because that's so sweet |
| 02:04.35 | Wobin | omg |
| 02:04.43 | alestane | I'll agree that's not a healthy response, yes. |
| 02:04.52 | Jerub | i had a warrior dps the other day who gave her lip, got annoytedat me for not healing him frantically when ye pulled dps (he didn't die) |
| 02:05.03 | Jerub | then needed on marrowstrike and admitted it was to vendor |
| 02:05.08 | Dagmar | ...although occasionally I do seem to find tanks on the 'lock that are just doing a lot of nothing useful. Count to six, fire off ONE seed... time to soul shatter |
| 02:05.24 | Jerub | (literally said, "i need the gold for saronite, for frostmourne") |
| 02:05.33 | Dagmar | He needs 23g that badlt? |
| 02:05.42 | Dagmar | Poor dumbass doesn't know how to make money |
| 02:05.57 | Jerub | Dagmar: after i let him die 2 times in a row by simply stoping heals, yes, yes he did. |
| 02:06.01 | Dagmar | heheh |
| 02:06.09 | Jerub | s/2/3/ |
| 02:06.22 | Jerub | he got really angry at me for stopping heals |
| 02:06.29 | Ressy | lol. they always do |
| 02:07.22 | Wobin | Jerub: master looter |
| 02:07.57 | Ressy | I remember back in Naxx, we'd stop healing this huntard, because he was MD'ing to healers. So he died every pull for 2 weeks. |
| 02:08.14 | Seerah | pompy: poke |
| 02:08.26 | Wobin | Ressy: anyone who doesn't expect that is an absolute moron =P |
| 02:08.42 | Wobin | Pity you can't click off MD anymore |
| 02:09.26 | Cloudwolf | *casts DI on the tank* |
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| 02:12.08 | pompy | Seerah: hello |
| 02:12.16 | Seerah | hi :) |
| 02:12.35 | Seerah | do you have ginvite privs? |
| 02:13.27 | Seerah | thank you! |
| 02:13.27 | Cloudwolf | lol seerah |
| 02:13.32 | Cloudwolf | seriously we need to put on wowi the list of guild owners >.> |
| 02:13.42 | pompy | Jamash: can u inv seerah when you get a chance |
| 02:13.57 | ajmitch | is not surprised to see the beta invite restricted to older wowi account :) |
| 02:14.06 | Seerah | all our ranks can invite on Ally ;) |
| 02:14.25 | Cloudwolf | i would be on us |
| 02:14.28 | Cloudwolf | and i dont have beta :D |
| 02:14.38 | Cloudwolf | link ajmitch? |
| 02:14.40 | Cloudwolf | OH wait nvm |
| 02:14.47 | Cloudwolf | sorry i thought you said wow accounts not wowi :P |
| 02:15.21 | Jamash | yeah I'm in ICC right now though |
| 02:15.31 | ajmitch | 'older' being only a week ago, but it's still amusing to read of how many people were putting up 5-line addons |
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| 02:16.19 | Seerah | Jamash: no biggies :) I've just been playing my goblin in peace and quiet for the past couple weeks :) then I remembered there was a horde guild ;) |
| 02:18.11 | Cloudwolf | ajmitch its amusing to read it sucks to be the admins |
| 02:18.48 | ajmitch | yes, I'd not like that job |
| 02:21.02 | Cloudwolf | addon 500 on the list |
| 02:21.04 | Cloudwolf | 3 lines of code |
| 02:21.10 | Cloudwolf | printing hello world *delete* |
| 02:21.33 | Cloudwolf | addon 501 on the list 20 lines of code for a button that logs you off *keep* *doesn't qualify* |
| 02:21.50 | Cloudwolf | addon 502 on the list obviously a rip off of addon X *delete* |
| 02:25.06 | Jerub | nearly gotten rid of my last T9 item |
| 02:27.23 | Dagmar | Damnit there goes my idea for a "Press X to not die" adon |
| 02:29.16 | DesertDwarf | Dagmar: Wait. That'd work. A bubble-hearth button. Yeah, that's it! |
| 02:32.20 | Cloudwolf | lol |
| 02:32.28 | Cloudwolf | OH SH*T oh yeah i have the instant win button |
| 02:33.26 | DesertDwarf | Shh. New addon. Secret. You signed NDA, 'member? |
| 02:33.54 | Cloudwolf | lol i did? |
| 02:34.00 | Cloudwolf | thats a damn good NDA that i can't remember the NDA |
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| 02:38.27 | Torhal | Seerah: And I thought for sure ARL 2.0 would make the pick! /cackle |
| 02:38.39 | Torhal | This weeks pick gives me an idea, though... |
| 02:38.40 | Seerah | hugs Torhal |
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| 03:26.39 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/kotecek.jpg |
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| 03:32.09 | mikma | yay. |
| 03:32.12 | mikma | coffee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 04:22.09 | Thunder_Child | http://www.instructables.com/id/DIY-Kitty-Crack:--ultra-potent-catnip-extract/ |
| 04:24.29 | Trela | mikma: I have had days like that before. D: |
| 04:24.44 | Trela | Not that bad, but always had a kitty to come home to. :3 |
| 04:38.53 | abra | who is a wow addon author that codes pretty? feel free to nominate yourselves. |
| 04:39.42 | Nobgul | lol |
| 04:39.49 | Nobgul | what is code |
| 04:39.56 | abra | sigh |
| 04:40.03 | abra | cant say shit here can ya. |
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| 04:40.07 | Nobgul | LOL |
| 04:40.22 | Nobgul | I was about to ask what he/she is looking for but eh |
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| 04:50.17 | Jerub | i was going to say, "feral by night" |
| 04:50.44 | Jerub | because i'm an asshole like that |
| 04:54.35 | Cide | told you that guy had an attitude problem |
| 04:54.49 | Nobgul | Lol yea. |
| 04:55.01 | Nobgul | I was here earlier when it all started off. |
| 04:56.07 | Nobgul | Anyway have a good night all. |
| 04:56.13 | Jerub | i only just discovered heal bars on oUF_freebgrid |
| 04:56.16 | Jerub | which i'm very happy with |
| 04:56.32 | Jerub | shows me a graphical representation of how much healing is incoming on raid members |
| 04:57.21 | Nobgul-Sleep | Hrmm interesting. Ill have to look at it more tommorow. |
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| 04:58.02 | Jerub | sif sleep |
| 05:02.49 | Wobin | ~25*2500 |
| 05:02.50 | purl | 62500 |
| 05:08.09 | kd3 | yay. all of deepholm's quests are now up on the wiki |
| 05:08.15 | kd3 | www.wowwiki.com/Deepholm_quests |
| 05:08.26 | kd3 | now, wtb my macros so I can do a proper job of getting crap documented |
| 05:09.08 | DesertDwarf | Wait, you want-to-buy your macros? |
| 05:09.17 | Yssaril | any idea when we get the next patch on beta? (how frequently was it before the author keys?) |
| 05:09.33 | kd3 | it varied. I expect we'll get one early this week, then another on thu/fri |
| 05:09.37 | Yssaril | DesertDwarf: you have to buy macro slots in Cata |
| 05:09.51 | Jerub | Yssaril: you who what now? |
| 05:10.15 | Yssaril | jk :P |
| 05:10.27 | DesertDwarf | <-- glad he didn't bite. :-p |
| 05:11.19 | durcyn | Yssaril: there'll be a lot. no news on the next drop though. i'd guess sometime this coming week, maybe wed-thurs or so |
| 05:11.28 | Jerub | Yssaril: that was a good one |
| 05:11.33 | Jerub | i'm going to start lying about that on trade. |
| 05:11.48 | durcyn | Jerub: also, addons and guild tabs cost $5/month |
| 05:11.48 | DesertDwarf | Hehe. |
| 05:12.24 | DesertDwarf | Oh, and bag slots for your inventory, just like you have to buy them for the bank.. Gotta buy the bag slots to put bags in. |
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| 05:14.55 | Yssaril | still dreams of the day when we get bigger or upgradable backpacks |
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| 05:20.56 | Jerub | yeah |
| 05:21.05 | Jerub | i'm constantly out of bag space. |
| 05:21.11 | Jerub | of course, that's because my main is a druid :/ |
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| 05:25.05 | DesertDwarf | Why does being a druid mean you don't have much bag space left? |
| 05:25.42 | Jerub | DesertDwarf: i carry around gear for all seasons. |
| 05:25.57 | Jerub | in fact, i leave an entire gear set in the bank, i only carry around my bear, my tree and my pvptree sets. |
| 05:26.02 | Fisker | slaps Jerub around a bit with a large trout |
| 05:26.19 | Jerub | but bear means carrying around 4 trinkets, for icc vs. non-icc, and tree i carry around spare trinkets for long fights with more mp5 |
| 05:26.45 | Jerub | and i used to have a kitty set, but that's dead now |
| 05:29.29 | Jerub | god it's expensive in frost emblems tho :( |
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| 05:30.49 | DesertDwarf | Hehe. I guess I'll just appreciate being a pally. |
| 05:31.05 | Jerub | i was literally shocked when i got my mage to the mage shop |
| 05:31.11 | Fisker | i'm about to blow up Jerub |
| 05:31.12 | Jerub | and there was 5 pieces of T9 gear total. |
| 05:31.22 | Jerub | Fisker: you wouldn't blow me up. |
| 05:31.23 | kd3 | pures are easy |
| 05:33.24 | Jerub | yeah. |
| 05:33.26 | Jerub | also, boring. |
| 05:33.27 | Jerub | :( |
| 05:33.31 | Jerub | i haven't played my mage in weeks. |
| 05:34.45 | DesertDwarf | Dagmar: I've added some of the ideas you suggested (not yet all) to my JunkDrop addon on CurseForge. Thanks! |
| 05:36.36 | Jerub | and now i'm going to be angry for a little while about how many epic gems i have to purchase now |
| 05:40.00 | DesertDwarf | OK, I've done my addon homework for the day. G'night. |
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| 05:51.15 | DesertDwarf | Anybody know if I can edit my addon's description on WoWInterface if it hasn't been approved yet? Not sure if it can be seen yet, but the page is http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info17410-JunkDrop.html and I forgot the addon's title would already be there. |
| 05:51.30 | Cairenn | just approved |
| 05:52.00 | DesertDwarf | Cool! Thanks and I found the link. I swear I looked all over! Hehe. |
| 05:55.26 | DesertDwarf | <-- wishes he could /nudge the CurseForge guys. I've been waiting more than a day for them to get it out of experimental. /sigh |
| 05:55.50 | Cairenn | :) |
| 05:55.53 | Cairenn | you're welcome |
| 05:55.57 | Xinhuan | DesertDwarf, and yes you can edit the description even before its approved ;p |
| 05:58.00 | Cairenn | yup |
| 06:03.05 | Xinhuan | DesertDwarf, I moved your addon out of experimental to normal |
| 06:03.28 | Xinhuan | you however need to tag your addon for beta or release status to generate a zip file for curse.com |
| 06:03.48 | DesertDwarf | OK, thanks. I thought I did via SVN. |
| 06:04.21 | Xinhuan | you made some commits, each commit generates an alpha zip |
| 06:04.36 | Xinhuan | you have to svn tag to make beta or release zips |
| 06:04.50 | Xinhuan | to /tags folder that is |
| 06:05.13 | Xinhuan | the tagname you use will determine if its beta or release, you can check the curseforge knowledge base for this |
| 06:05.54 | Xinhuan | and generally speaking, its best if you use the zip file generated from curseforge, and upload that to wowinterface - to maintain addon consistency for debugging when people report bugs |
| 06:06.15 | DesertDwarf | OK. I'll re-read it. I've read so many pages on curseforge, my eyes are swimming. Going from start-to-publish on curseforge is not a single page. |
| 06:06.35 | Xinhuan | there's also #wowace channel, which is 10x more active than #curseforge |
| 06:06.35 | DesertDwarf | And, on the advice of someone else here, that's how I submitted to wowinterface. :-) |
| 06:06.39 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/faq.php?faq=developer#faq_svn |
| 06:07.05 | Xinhuan | most admins on either site are also admins on the sister site |
| 06:07.22 | Xinhuan | (technically its the same site) |
| 06:07.34 | Cairenn | start to publish on WoWI is pretty straight forward, as you can see |
| 06:07.44 | DesertDwarf | No, Cairenn...no problems with wowinterface. I just had a hard time finding start-to-publish stuff on CurseForge...it's not all in one place. Makes it difficult. |
| 06:07.49 | Cairenn | pokes Xinhuan ;) |
| 06:07.59 | Cairenn | DesertDwarf: I'm pointing out that WoWI has an SVN as well |
| 06:08.09 | Cairenn | and it's a lot more straight forward |
| 06:08.22 | Xinhuan | yep Cairenn, but i think he used curseforge as his svn base |
| 06:08.26 | DesertDwarf | I did. |
| 06:08.40 | Xinhuan | unlike git, you can't easily sync multiple remote repos |
| 06:08.42 | Xinhuan | its annoying |
| 06:08.42 | DesertDwarf | Frankly, I like wowinterface site better but curse's client better. |
| 06:09.08 | Cairenn | Yes ..... but he doesn't HAVE to, is my point - everyone seems to think that CurseForge is the be-all end-all, but we actually had ours out first :p |
| 06:09.10 | DesertDwarf | So, if I would have git'ed, I could have published to both? |
| 06:09.22 | Xinhuan | the only reason why curse's system is more annoying to setup/use is because of the curse client |
| 06:09.34 | Cairenn | ours works with our client OOB |
| 06:09.57 | Cairenn | pokes Xinhuan some more ;) |
| 06:09.59 | DesertDwarf | Minion gives me a headache because of the "waiting for xxx" thing. |
| 06:10.01 | Xinhuan | :) |
| 06:10.14 | Cairenn | good thing we <3 each other, hey? |
| 06:10.20 | Xinhuan | of course! |
| 06:10.26 | DesertDwarf | And I don't mean to get in everyone's chili. Sorry if I'm bugging you both. |
| 06:10.33 | Cairenn | you aren't :) |
| 06:10.45 | DesertDwarf | And, Xinhuan, thanks for getting JunkDrop released. |
| 06:11.05 | Cairenn | most of the Curse and WoWI staff all get along just fine :) |
| 06:11.14 | Cairenn | there are some that don't like each other, but that's to be expected |
| 06:11.15 | DesertDwarf | Cool! |
| 06:11.39 | Cairenn | we are, ultimately, competitors (or more correctly, our bosses/parent companies are) |
| 06:11.58 | Cairenn | but most of us <3 each other just fine :) |
| 06:12.03 | Xinhuan | but zam is buying over everything! |
| 06:12.14 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 06:12.14 | DesertDwarf | Hehe. |
| 06:12.22 | Cairenn | hang around in here long enough and you'll see proof enough of it, we tease the hell out of each other all the time |
| 06:12.36 | Cairenn | yeah, well, don't get me started on Curse :p |
| 06:12.46 | Arrowmaster | what doesnt zam own |
| 06:12.51 | DesertDwarf | Let me see if I've got this right...committing again. |
| 06:12.53 | Cairenn | wanders back off where she had been previously |
| 06:13.27 | Xinhuan | zam doesn't own curse! |
| 06:13.27 | Fisker | slaps Xinhuan around a bit with a large trout |
| 06:13.27 | Fisker | slaps Cairenn around a bit with a large trout |
| 06:13.27 | Xinhuan | stabs Fisker with a pillow |
| 06:13.27 | Xinhuan | did you get a beta key Fisker |
| 06:13.27 | Fisker | :( |
| 06:13.27 | Cairenn | ignores Fisker |
| 06:13.31 | Xinhuan | you haven't been talking about it for a while! |
| 06:13.31 | Fisker | childmolester |
| 06:14.04 | DesertDwarf | I'm TortoiseSVN'ing. I can't figure out where the tag is. (No wonder I didn't tag it right.) |
| 06:14.21 | Xinhuan | its tortoisesvn->branch/tag |
| 06:14.29 | Xinhuan | they are the same operation |
| 06:14.43 | Xinhuan | essentially copying a folder from /trunk/blah to /tags/whatever |
| 06:14.57 | Xinhuan | or /branches/bleah |
| 06:16.01 | DesertDwarf | On the Branch/Tag dialog, how do I indicate I'm not alpha anymore? |
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| 06:21.13 | Arrowmaster | DesertDwarf: for curseforge all tags that dont include the word 'alpha' are considered beta or release |
| 06:21.44 | Fisker | anyway yarrr Xinhuan |
| 06:22.06 | DesertDwarf | This is my first time using the Branch/Tag dialog. I'm reading the help file to figure out what I want to do, but I'm not clear on it. |
| 06:22.12 | Xinhuan | also, all tags that don't include the word 'beta' or 'alpha' is a release |
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| 06:22.41 | Xinhuan | its pretty easy |
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| 06:22.51 | DesertDwarf | What's confusing is there is nothing in the dialog labeled branch or tag except the titlebar. |
| 06:23.02 | Xinhuan | you want to tag from svn://username@svn.curseforge.net/wow/junkdrop/mainline/trunk |
| 06:23.03 | Xinhuan | to |
| 06:23.09 | Xinhuan | svn://username@svn.curseforge.net/wow/junkdrop/mainline/tags/v1.0.0 |
| 06:23.24 | DesertDwarf | (Or whatever version I really want, right?) |
| 06:23.28 | Xinhuan | correct |
| 06:24.00 | Xinhuan | just make sure the from (you can't modify that) and to addresses are correct |
| 06:24.09 | Xinhuan | and there's some options to select what version of "from" you are copying |
| 06:24.18 | Xinhuan | usually it'll be selected as HEAD revision |
| 06:25.04 | DesertDwarf | It defaulted to "Specific revision in reposity" which is set to '3'...I'm on r3 on curseforge, so I'm guessing that's what I want. |
| 06:25.11 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 06:25.32 | Xinhuan | or set it to HEAD (first radio option) if you just want the latest revision number whatever it is |
| 06:25.38 | Xinhuan | which is 3 atm |
| 06:25.50 | Xinhuan | if you do it right, you will see a message on #curseforge |
| 06:25.59 | DesertDwarf | There's an option on the bottom "Switch working copy to new branch/tag" and it's a checkbox. Should I check that? |
| 06:26.03 | Xinhuan | no |
| 06:26.07 | DesertDwarf | OK. |
| 06:26.24 | Xinhuan | if you check that, your future commits will be to the /tags/v1.0.0 folder, which isn't what you want |
| 06:26.41 | DesertDwarf | That look good? |
| 06:26.52 | Xinhuan | yes, see #curseforge |
| 06:27.02 | DesertDwarf | I did. Just checking with you, too. :-D |
| 06:27.02 | Xinhuan | your zip will be generated within a minute and it'll be up on the webpage |
| 06:27.22 | Xinhuan | curse.com won't see it until maybe 30 min later though, i think |
| 06:27.49 | DesertDwarf | And when I want to work on revisions again, I go back to main? |
| 06:27.57 | DesertDwarf | (Err...trunk) |
| 06:28.27 | DesertDwarf | Or something like that. Anyway, I go back to what was *not* the tags/v0.2 thing. |
| 06:29.09 | Xinhuan | you didn't check the "switch to blahblah" box |
| 06:29.14 | Xinhuan | so you will still be on /trunk |
| 06:29.24 | DesertDwarf | Ahh! Now I understand that option. |
| 06:29.38 | DesertDwarf | So, everytime I want to "release", I'll do what I just did and create a new tag. |
| 06:29.42 | Xinhuan | yep |
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| 06:29.59 | DesertDwarf | Cool beans. |
| 06:30.02 | DesertDwarf | Whew! :-D |
| 06:30.16 | Xinhuan | it may help if you think of a tag as giving a specific revision (r3 in your case) a name (v0.2 in your case) |
| 06:30.31 | DesertDwarf | Yup. I got it now. |
| 06:30.51 | DesertDwarf | Next: clean up code, document it, and then add my other features. But not tonight, this short guy is tired. |
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| 06:32.47 | Fisker | i don't feel so well Xinhuan |
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| 06:33.02 | DesertDwarf | Been eating the large trout again? |
| 06:34.56 | Xinhuan | tsk tsk |
| 06:36.38 | Fisker | not really DesertDwarf |
| 06:37.36 | Jerub | fuck. did blizzard time just shift to daylight savings? |
| 06:37.48 | Xinhuan | in july? don't think so |
| 06:37.53 | Kalroth | lol |
| 06:38.04 | Fisker | why are Kotaku fudding it up? |
| 06:38.11 | Jerub | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:38.16 | Jerub | why is it listing that as PDT then? |
| 06:38.18 | Fisker | http://kotaku.com/5590298/where-isnt-starcraft-ii-launching |
| 06:38.23 | Jerub | isn't it PST when you're not on daylight time? |
| 06:38.37 | Fisker | it is PDT |
| 06:38.45 | kd3 | we're in xDT right now |
| 06:39.05 | Fisker | D = Daylight |
| 06:39.08 | kd3 | ^ |
| 06:39.15 | Fisker | S = Standard |
| 06:39.21 | Fisker | and not summertime if that's what you think |
| 06:39.23 | Kalroth | F in Fisker = Fail |
| 06:39.29 | Wobin | They need to do it in GMT |
| 06:39.38 | Fisker | meh |
| 06:39.47 | Arrowmaster | you mean UTC |
| 06:39.50 | Wobin | yeah |
| 06:39.53 | Kalroth | No, you mean CET |
| 06:39.53 | Fisker | European time is 9 hours ahead of PDT |
| 06:39.57 | Wobin | I couldn't recall the acronym =) |
| 06:40.01 | Jerub | crud. |
| 06:40.05 | Fisker | goodbye Wobin |
| 06:40.07 | Fisker | i hope you die |
| 06:40.18 | Wobin | Fisker: There's a good chance of that happening eventually |
| 06:40.19 | Jerub | maintenance this week is 4 hours early and thus will be starting before i get home from work tomorrow |
| 06:40.21 | cbreak_work | Time's relative :) |
| 06:40.28 | Fisker | yes Wobin |
| 06:40.31 | Fisker | goodbye |
| 06:40.33 | Wobin | 6pm eh? |
| 06:40.36 | Jerub | Wobin: yeah |
| 06:40.36 | Fisker | or atleast see you in half an hour or so |
| 06:40.46 | Wobin | You're going to die with me? |
| 06:40.58 | Jerub | will have to get up early tomorrow to do raid quest |
| 06:42.27 | Wobin | http://pleatedjeans.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/maslows-hierarchy-of-internet-needs.jpg |
| 06:44.02 | Elkano | any hookers online? |
| 06:44.42 | Cairenn | winks at Elkano |
| 06:45.25 | Elkano | US hookers are too expensive, looking for some EU ;) |
| 06:46.00 | kd3 | wait, the administratix is US now? |
| 06:46.20 | Cairenn | no, the administratrix is Canadian, same as always :) |
| 06:46.25 | Fisker | beta is soon over kd3 |
| 06:46.26 | Fisker | ;_; |
| 06:46.47 | kd3 | aww |
| 06:47.48 | Fisker | so i somehow have to get through 8 days of no SC2 |
| 06:47.58 | kd3 | copious amounts of alcohol? |
| 06:49.00 | Fisker | lol. |
| 06:49.16 | Fisker | the i7 970 6-core is only like $50 cheaper here |
| 06:49.18 | Fisker | ;_; |
| 06:49.22 | Fisker | goodbai kd3 |
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| 07:12.35 | Maldivia | morning :) |
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| 07:29.55 | Jinivus | eats. |
| 07:31.40 | Fisker | slaps Jinivus around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:31.41 | Fisker | slaps Kody- around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:34.03 | Jinivus | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:38.00 | Fisker | hides tekkub |
| 07:38.32 | Jinivus | finds tekkub |
| 07:41.27 | Fisker | my nemesis |
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| 07:45.19 | Jinivus | :O |
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| 07:47.40 | Jinivus | promises to himself that he will not check the beta page again for at least another 12 hours |
| 07:48.37 | Fisker | what beta page? |
| 07:49.01 | Jinivus | http://wowinterface.com/beta.php? |
| 07:49.52 | Shadowed | Given that Blizzard has to send the keys, it's essentially impossible for us to actually get them till at least 10 AM PST |
| 07:50.13 | Jinivus | Hence 12 hours xD |
| 07:52.35 | Jinivus | I've just found myself with a strange habit of going there, even when i know that they cant possibly have arrived yet |
| 07:53.04 | Maldivia | go to sleep then ? |
| 07:53.07 | Fisker | that's only 9 hours |
| 07:54.06 | Jinivus | Maldivia: Its only 5:53PM in Aus xD |
| 07:54.38 | Maldivia | Jinivus: so - take a 12 hour sleep, then you'll be up early to check for beta tomorrow :P |
| 07:55.28 | Jinivus | Maldivia: But then when will i get a chance to watch my fma |
| 07:56.01 | Jinivus | Also i should probably eat dinner first |
| 07:57.50 | Jinivus | Shadowed: It's not that I meant complaining about the wait in any way, incase you thought i meant it that way :( |
| 07:58.29 | Shadowed | Didn't take it as such, just pointing out :p |
| 07:58.51 | Jinivus | Just checking :D |
| 08:00.51 | Fisker | when will Blizzard take away my life Shadowed ? |
| 08:01.03 | Maldivia | Fisker: on the 27th |
| 08:01.14 | Fisker | no |
| 08:01.15 | Fisker | today |
| 08:01.17 | Fisker | but when? |
| 08:01.30 | Jinivus | right now |
| 08:01.36 | Fisker | nope |
| 08:01.42 | Jinivus | now? |
| 08:01.48 | Jinivus | what about now? |
| 08:02.01 | Fisker | In case you don't get it: When are they going to reset mah beta? |
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| 08:02.11 | Jinivus | reset? o.O |
| 08:02.23 | Fisker | i.e. later today the SC2 beta will end |
| 08:02.27 | Jinivus | Ohhhhh |
| 08:02.29 | Jinivus | gotcha |
| 08:02.30 | Jinivus | yep |
| 08:02.30 | Fisker | which means no posting on the forums :( |
| 08:02.37 | Jinivus | BL |
| 08:03.46 | Jinivus | Is that happening today? |
| 08:03.49 | Fisker | yes |
| 08:04.07 | Jinivus | I got into the beta ages ago but haven't been following |
| 08:04.57 | Jinivus | *closely |
| 08:05.15 | Fisker | :O |
| 08:06.34 | Jinivus | :-0 |
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| 08:23.36 | Grum | Fisker: you never had a live in the firstplace |
| 08:25.49 | Fisker | no i don't have a tv contract to be on air live |
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| 09:24.39 | Grum | Fisker: i know, stupid tv contracts :( |
| 09:27.25 | sylvanaar_atwork | good morning |
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| 10:34.46 | airtonix | fisker |
| 10:36.12 | Fisker | airtonixer |
| 10:36.16 | Jinivus | Jinivus |
| 10:38.11 | foxlit | grrr, creole |
| 10:38.35 | foxlit | Who thought that making -- strike-through was a good idea? |
| 10:38.48 | cbreak_work | -- is a comment. |
| 10:39.00 | foxlit | -- is a â |
| 10:39.11 | foxlit | â? |
| 10:39.36 | airtonix | lol |
| 10:39.45 | foxlit | - â â! |
| 10:39.50 | airtonix | !?!? |
| 10:39.59 | airtonix | if you let this get away |
| 10:40.09 | foxlit | I'm not sure why the middle one seems shorter than the left. |
| 10:40.11 | airtonix | they will never let you hear the end of if |
| 10:40.12 | airtonix | it |
| 10:40.23 | Wobin | emdash? |
| 10:40.26 | cbreak_work | â â - â â |
| 10:40.39 | foxlit | Perhaps it's the font being weird. |
| 10:40.45 | cbreak_work | hmm. "â" seems to not work |
| 10:41.21 | airtonix | Fisker, what are you doing? |
| 10:41.32 | foxlit | cbreak: works for me |
| 10:41.43 | cbreak_work | â â has two different lengths here. and - is even shorter. |
| 10:41.53 | cbreak_work | maybe my font. |
| 10:41.55 | Fisker | slaps foxlit around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:42.00 | ^RaK^ | same cbreak :< |
| 10:42.12 | Fisker | what are YOU doing airtonix ? |
| 10:42.12 | Jinivus | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:42.20 | cbreak_work | ah well, I have no idea when to use those different dashes anyway |
| 10:43.43 | airtonix | Flisker, setting up a room of ubuntu desktops via ssh :) |
| 10:43.43 | foxlit | - is for lean-to |
| 10:43.51 | airtonix | <3 clusterssh |
| 10:44.17 | foxlit | En-dash â the middle one â can break up sentences a bit |
| 10:44.21 | foxlit | Finally, the emâ |
| 10:44.27 | foxlit | er, emâ |
| 10:44.30 | foxlit | is for interrupted speech. |
| 10:45.27 | cbreak_work | splitting words between lines? |
| 10:45.56 | foxlit | [Actually, the last two purposes are both for â] |
| 10:46.12 | foxlit | cbreak_work: hyphens are for hyphenation :) |
| 10:46.34 | cbreak_work | that sounds so unintuitive... :) |
| 10:48.57 | foxlit | It's a mess. |
| 10:49.14 | foxlit | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dash, though, can shed some light if you're interested. |
| 10:50.16 | Fisker | airtonix |
| 10:50.20 | Fisker | that is CORRECT |
| 10:50.24 | Fisker | so anything else you wanted? |
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| 11:09.49 | foxlit | Global variable _ tainted by Recount |
| 11:09.50 | foxlit | :P |
| 11:11.21 | foxlit | SetItemRef? Et tu, DevTools? |
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| 11:32.43 | foxlit | http://pastey.net/138695 << what? |
| 11:33.43 | foxlit | I can't seem to figure out why I'm being blamed for ACTIVE_CHAT_EDIT_BOX -- there are no "execution tainted by" prior to it, and nothing in the call stack. |
| 11:34.41 | Mrruben5 | Can anyone tell me what's faster, CombatLog_Object_IsA(srcFlags, COMBATLOG_FILTER_MINE) or UnitGUID? |
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| 11:35.37 | foxlit | (a) Does it matter? (b) Benchmark it (c) What did you actually want to achieve? |
| 11:36.54 | foxlit | _IsA is eventually maps to a bitlib call; unitguid is a straight-to-C lookup. UnitGUID should probably be faster. |
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| 11:38.58 | Mrruben5 | foxlit: thanks. |
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| 11:40.05 | foxlit | Mrruben5: what did you actually want to achieve? |
| 11:41.26 | Mrruben5 | foxlit: just tracking my windfury cooldown :P |
| 11:41.50 | foxlit | See, that's why I hate "What's faster, A or B?" |
| 11:41.57 | foxlit | questions; they miss the forest for the trees. |
| 11:42.04 | foxlit | The player's GUID never changes. |
| 11:42.22 | amro | unless you go into witness protection |
| 11:42.34 | Mrruben5 | http://paste.wowace.com/2224/ |
| 11:42.38 | foxlit | s/./while you're online./ |
| 11:42.46 | foxlit | Get it at addon load time, store it in a local variable. Combat log events supply a source guid. Compare. Profit. |
| 11:43.02 | Mrruben5 | right |
| 11:49.42 | Xinhuan | it can be nil in rare cases foxlit :P |
| 11:49.59 | Xinhuan | i had it happen a few times at login/zoning |
| 11:50.16 | Maldivia | that UnitGUID("player") returns nil ? |
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| 11:50.26 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 11:50.30 | Xinhuan | i've seen it return nil |
| 11:50.42 | Xinhuan | and a few ppl reported errors in omen when i assumed it always returns non-nil |
| 11:50.58 | foxlit | I haven't, but I'm not looking too closely. |
| 11:51.11 | foxlit | snatch it on PLAYER_LOGIN if you're concerned. |
| 11:51.29 | Xinhuan | that's when it can return nil too, its weird |
| 11:52.07 | foxlit | Heh, interesting |
| 11:52.07 | Xinhuan | but for the most part, its fairly reliable |
| 11:52.24 | foxlit | I don't taint ACTIVE_CHAT_EDIT_BOX if I log in. |
| 11:52.34 | foxlit | If I reload, it somehow does. |
| 11:52.46 | foxlit | The addon it blames it does not interact with chat. In any way. |
| 11:54.23 | Xinhuan | have fun with the taint log lol |
| 11:55.16 | foxlit | http://pastey.net/138696/15:55:63 |
| 11:57.18 | foxlit | Xinhuan: that's the thing -- the taintlog is eerily silent on the subject. |
| 11:57.35 | Xinhuan | the taint log must tell you when the global ACTIVE_CHAT_EDIT_BOX is tainted |
| 11:57.40 | Xinhuan | because it logs all global taints |
| 11:57.53 | foxlit | That's the pastey. |
| 11:57.57 | foxlit | It's FrameXML code. |
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| 11:58.22 | DJJeff | why do people get away with this shit.... really |
| 11:58.24 | DJJeff | http://imgur.com/0xzCp.jpg |
| 11:58.38 | DJJeff | and im the one under GM review |
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| 11:59.01 | DJJeff | I really wish it wasnt $25 to move servers |
| 12:01.35 | DJJeff | cant even be on the same server as my friends |
| 12:01.41 | DJJeff | cause of this cancer |
| 12:01.49 | foxlit | Xinhuan: weird, eh? |
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| 12:02.19 | Xinhuan | i don't know |
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| 12:02.32 | Xinhuan | for it to be tainted, there has to be an entry in the taint log (taintlog 2) |
| 12:02.38 | Xinhuan | even if its xml code |
| 12:02.39 | amro | DJJeff: /ignore Shulgoth |
| 12:02.41 | foxlit | There is. |
| 12:02.42 | Xinhuan | it'll still be there |
| 12:02.46 | foxlit | It just doesn't say why |
| 12:02.53 | foxlit | The stack is entirely in XML. |
| 12:03.06 | Xinhuan | that's good enough, does it say which line of code? |
| 12:03.11 | DJJeff | amro: its hard to ignore these trolls cause they are all over my trade channel |
| 12:03.25 | foxlit | Yes, see http://pastey.net/138696/15:55:63 -- that's the entire stack |
| 12:03.26 | DJJeff | getting sucked in doesnt get you invited to raids |
| 12:03.29 | amro | I always /leave 2 unless I explicitly need it |
| 12:04.03 | amro | if you think your realm is the only one full of idiots, you're mistaken |
| 12:04.05 | foxlit | All of that should be secure; I don't see how I'm touching it :/ |
| 12:06.10 | Xinhuan | what does ChatEdit_SetDeactivated(editBox) |
| 12:06.10 | Xinhuan | do |
| 12:06.22 | Xinhuan | you're calling it and it may taint an internal local or upvalue |
| 12:06.51 | foxlit | I'm not calling any of it -- it's all /entirely/ in FrameXML |
| 12:07.14 | foxlit | Furthermore, the _SetDeactivated call is after the line the taintlog whines about. |
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| 12:08.15 | Xinhuan | is the code you pasteyed yours? or default ui |
| 12:08.21 | foxlit | default ui. |
| 12:08.57 | Xinhuan | GetSelectedWindow(GENERAL_CHAT_DOCK).editBox <-- |
| 12:09.03 | Xinhuan | could that be set by an addon? |
| 12:09.11 | Xinhuan | .editBox |
| 12:09.20 | foxlit | The .editBox'es are secure |
| 12:10.03 | Xinhuan | have an addon that hooks the xml event? |
| 12:10.34 | foxlit | Certainly not the one that's being assigned taint for it |
| 12:10.50 | foxlit | But no, I don't think I have anything that should care that closely about the chat infrastructure |
| 12:11.05 | Xinhuan | taint is based on the first addon that started the taint chain |
| 12:11.14 | Xinhuan | so it doesn't necessarily have to be the addon that hooked it |
| 12:11.23 | Xinhuan | i learnt that 2 years ago lol |
| 12:11.25 | foxlit | Then I should be in the stack. |
| 12:11.36 | foxlit | Or tainting one of the used variables |
| 12:11.47 | Xinhuan | nope! the problem is the taint log doesn't report tainting anything that isn't in _G[] |
| 12:12.27 | foxlit | I'm somewhat expecting a "Execution tainted by XYZ while reading ZYX" entry before it, but there doesn't appear to be one |
| 12:12.37 | Xinhuan | yep you gotta trace that one |
| 12:13.30 | batrick | Why do Laptop AC adapters have to be so damn expensive :( |
| 12:15.36 | DJJeff | batrick: ause they are not universal like dekstop ones |
| 12:15.41 | DJJeff | cause* |
| 12:15.42 | amro | batrick: because you have no choice but to buy them |
| 12:16.11 | DJJeff | custom fitted AC adapters to fit your model of laptop |
| 12:16.35 | mikma | haha... "What? What? In My Gut...?" |
| 12:16.50 | DJJeff | ebay is a nice place to find replacement AC adapters :) |
| 12:17.00 | DJJeff | if not craigslist |
| 12:17.46 | DJJeff | if you know your laptop model # :) |
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| 12:21.55 | foxlit | UIFrameFadeOut. |
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| 12:25.18 | foxlit | That is too evil. |
| 12:26.52 | foxlit | I call UIFrameFadeOut, placing my tainted frame into its internal list of frames it is currently fading. Afterwards, in an entirely unrelated stack, FrameXML tries to activate and deactivate a chat window (madness); the activation involves removal of a specific frame from the internal list of frames currently fading |
| 12:27.29 | foxlit | it encounters my tainted frame in the list, and taints the execution; this escapes taint.log for some reason. Then deactivating assigns to a global from a tainted execution path. |
| 12:27.34 | foxlit | Way to go :( |
| 12:27.39 | Xinhuan | grats ;p |
| 12:27.51 | Xinhuan | don't use the UI function to fade |
| 12:27.56 | Xinhuan | code up your own |
| 12:28.11 | foxlit | This didn't use to cause issues until 3.3.5 |
| 12:28.40 | Xinhuan | omen and bigwigs used to use the default ui's flash-frame code but it caused taint |
| 12:28.52 | Xinhuan | UIFrameFlash or something |
| 12:28.57 | Xinhuan | don't remember exacts now |
| 12:29.49 | Xinhuan | execution taint from reading a non _G[] variable isn't logged i think |
| 12:30.17 | foxlit | Which is kind of bad :( |
| 12:30.55 | foxlit | Hm, so I need to write my own fader, then. Meh. |
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| 12:31.58 | foxlit | This wouldn't happen if their fader system used a hashtable instead of a list :( |
| 12:33.45 | Fisker | slaps foxlit around a bit with a large trout |
| 12:33.53 | mikma | what the hell is "Mastery"? |
| 12:34.27 | foxlit | mikma: awesomeness. |
| 12:34.33 | foxlit | Or, rather, awesomeness rating. |
| 12:34.51 | Fisker | no that's mastery rating |
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| 12:36.36 | Kalroth | haj |
| 12:37.00 | mikma | foxlit: i can't find it anywhere |
| 12:37.22 | foxlit | mikma: talent trees are in varying states of disarray |
| 12:37.45 | foxlit | Mages, for instance, have a mastery bonus that says "Increases your (Spec School) damage by 20%." |
| 12:37.54 | foxlit | Presumably, wearing more mastery would make that number higher |
| 12:38.04 | Fisker | indeed it would |
| 12:38.29 | Fisker | before the specialization change it was 3 stats (and i believe tanks had a fourth) |
| 12:38.41 | Fisker | the last was modified by your mastery rating |
| 12:41.21 | mikma | foxlit: oh. that's awesomeness. also, dk unholy tree is way bugged. always keeps reseting to 7 points or so |
| 12:46.39 | tlund | Xinhuan: what is the correct way to get a fix included in BlizzBugsSuck? post a ticket? post a comment somewhere? email? privmsg? :) |
| 12:46.59 | Xinhuan | you can reply on the wowace page for it |
| 12:47.10 | Xinhuan | or post a ticket on it, or just tell shefki or me about it |
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| 12:55.39 | Fisker | slaps Xinhuan around a bit with a large trout |
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| 13:26.41 | mikma | hey folks, is there a trainer for mining 450 ->? |
| 13:27.30 | Fisker | no! |
| 13:29.00 | |Jelly| | *sigh* I get a SC2 beta key but not a Cataclysm one. :| |
| 13:29.31 | |Jelly| | ... two days ago. I guess I need to check my e-mail more often. |
| 13:30.01 | Lopeppeppy | :) You sure it's not a scam? I've gotten tons of those for SC and Cataclysm. |
| 13:30.18 | |Jelly| | They emailed me a key, not a link. :P |
| 13:30.33 | |Jelly| | Plus: mailed-byblizzard.com <-- isn't hotmail.com |
| 13:30.39 | Grum | riight |
| 13:30.46 | Grum | you dont get a key mailed iirc |
| 13:31.22 | Thunder_Child | it just is active in battle.net |
| 13:31.23 | Grum | you just get a 'you have a beta on your account' for sc2 |
| 13:31.23 | Grum | and the 'from' address is freetext |
| 13:31.23 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, it's on the Account Management page if it's legitimate, you go there and do your thing on the Games Listed screen. |
| 13:31.23 | ^RaK^ | no, my gf got a key in the mail |
| 13:31.23 | Grum | actually anything in the mail is, except the servers it went through but you can even forge those |
| 13:31.23 | ^RaK^ | it worked fine |
| 13:31.29 | ^RaK^ | for sc2 |
| 13:31.46 | |Jelly| | Well, lets see. |
| 13:32.10 | |Jelly| | Oh hey look ... it worked. |
| 13:32.26 | |Jelly| | Too bad I have nearly zero interest in playing it. |
| 13:32.50 | Grum | silly that you did say you wanted it |
| 13:32.50 | Grum | :P |
| 13:32.51 | Grum | its opt-in ;D |
| 13:33.06 | Lopeppeppy | I liked what I saw back at Blizzcon a zillion years ago. |
| 13:33.19 | |Jelly| | Well, according to you I just got scammed so yeah ... |
| 13:34.21 | Grum | |Jelly|: iirc they didn't send keys, but i got the beta from a 'friend key', so i'm not 100% sure, hence the 'iirc' :) |
| 13:36.56 | ^RaK^ | anyone know if theres anything along the lines of resharper for np++, mostly just the ability to locally rename stuff thats bugging me :) or am i stuck just copy pasting |
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| 13:49.28 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/lifeinaday?x=video |
| 13:54.39 | foxlit | Meh, this game is excessively evil to casters at low levels |
| 13:54.43 | mikma | lol what? ghoul is permanent now? |
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| 13:57.19 | Maldivia | mikma: if you're unholy |
| 13:57.23 | Warloco | @ foxlit; only some casters :) |
| 13:57.38 | foxlit | Warloco: mm? |
| 13:58.16 | Warloco | not all casters suffer horribly at low levels |
| 13:59.00 | Maldivia | some do though, very horribly :P |
| 13:59.14 | ^RaK^ | I hated priest and mage at low levels, |
| 13:59.29 | Lopeppeppy | leveling my holy priest gave me nightmares. |
| 13:59.31 | Warloco | priest I hated |
| 13:59.38 | Maldivia | priest in particular, dont know now with flay at lvl 10 |
| 14:00.03 | Warloco | I've read a beta post about some priests just dotting up hordes of mobs at low level |
| 14:00.07 | foxlit | spell misses are devastating, really |
| 14:00.15 | Warloco | but alas, I havent gotten into beta quite yet |
| 14:00.27 | mikma | maldivia: i an not unholy, i am blood :D |
| 14:00.30 | Maldivia | Warloco: they nerfed the dot damage though |
| 14:00.44 | Warloco | ah |
| 14:00.51 | ^RaK^ | warlocks almost on par with hunter as easy to level, gets a bit harder when you start outthreating your voidwalker straight away |
| 14:00.53 | Maldivia | mikma: hmm, could be a talent bug, that you somehow kept the endless ghoul talent : |
| 14:00.58 | foxlit | Hm, TextMate: "Are you sure you want to open a 96MB file?" |
| 14:01.17 | Warloco | quick question, you know the error window in wow, is there any way to make it show up after you've closed it? |
| 14:01.17 | Maldivia | ^RaK^: hunters are bad now on cata though |
| 14:01.20 | foxlit | "I don't know, are you up to it?" |
| 14:01.26 | mikma | maldivia: i have completely bugged unholy tree. it keeps reseting to 7 points |
| 14:01.32 | Warloco | lol foxlit |
| 14:01.32 | ^RaK^ | really? :< |
| 14:01.51 | Maldivia | ^RaK^: well, the current focus regen rate is abyssimal... |
| 14:02.03 | Maldivia | ^RaK^: basically, you get to cast a special every 15 secs |
| 14:02.14 | ^RaK^ | if its anything like pet regen currently at low levels, then yeh i can imagine |
| 14:02.54 | Maldivia | at the moment you regen 4 focus/sec or so |
| 14:03.00 | Maldivia | and most abilities cost 50 focus |
| 14:03.09 | Maldivia | so that's 12.5 sec to regen the focus used |
| 14:03.44 | ^RaK^ | hopefully not tweaked yet then :) |
| 14:03.56 | Maldivia | Warloco: /run something() and then click previous :P |
| 14:04.23 | Maldivia | ^RaK^: well, you can use steady shot |
| 14:04.47 | Maldivia | Warloco: something() being something that causes an error, that is :P |
| 14:11.58 | frontendloader | a lot of editors have trouble with files over even 1mb :/ |
| 14:12.12 | frontendloader | notepad++ chokes on 5mb+ files |
| 14:12.36 | ReAn | frontendloader: not mine |
| 14:13.06 | frontendloader | dunno what version of notepad++ you're using but whenever I open big files with it, it chokes hard |
| 14:13.10 | Warloco | @ Mald: Thanks |
| 14:13.10 | ReAn | just takes about 10 seconds to load up, then it's fine |
| 14:13.27 | frontendloader | 100mb log files |
| 14:13.33 | Warloco | quick question, how do I print the current uiscale in game? |
| 14:14.26 | ReAn | oh wow |
| 14:14.26 | ReAn | you're right |
| 14:14.28 | ReAn | my pc is just fast |
| 14:14.37 | ReAn | it loaded the 1gb binary right into memory |
| 14:14.46 | ReAn | in about 10 seconds mind you |
| 14:14.48 | ReAn | but still |
| 14:14.49 | ReAn | O.o |
| 14:14.49 | ^RaK^ | hm just opened a 46mb file in np++ instantly :< |
| 14:15.12 | ReAn | well my np++ has 1.2gb of ram usage after opening a 1.1gb file |
| 14:15.20 | ReAn | so id say it's choking cuz it's not buffering |
| 14:15.35 | ReAn | i just didn't notice it because my comp is fairly new |
| 14:15.37 | Arrowmaster | done worse |
| 14:15.58 | Arrowmaster | i made firefox use over 1 gig of ram on a system with only a gig of ram by opening a 6mb xml file |
| 14:16.06 | ^RaK^ | wtf 1.1gb file would you need to open :) |
| 14:16.12 | ReAn | yea, well firefox sucks |
| 14:16.21 | Arrowmaster | its because it was xml |
| 14:16.31 | ReAn | ... and firefox sucks |
| 14:16.43 | ReAn | :) |
| 14:16.45 | ReAn | </troll> |
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| 14:19.11 | ReAn | i once compiled a program specifically for eating up memory, to get the annoying loud game players out of the lab @ uni, cuz id SSH into thier terminals and run it |
| 14:19.16 | ReAn | and thier games would crawl to a halt |
| 14:19.19 | ReAn | and they'd leave |
| 14:19.31 | ^RaK^ | lol |
| 14:19.52 | ReAn | never underestimate the power of while(1) { malloc(); } |
| 14:22.17 | Kraps | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/247.html |
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| 14:25.39 | Kraps | Fisker: i'm an earth sign |
| 14:25.58 | Grum | ReAn: :(){:|:&};: ! |
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| 14:34.05 | Ackis | so, anyone here have experience with door replacements at all? |
| 14:34.17 | Ackis | Was quote $1200-$1300 per door |
| 14:34.21 | Ackis | *quoted |
| 14:35.17 | Arrowmaster | doors for what? |
| 14:35.37 | Ackis | the house |
| 14:35.53 | Arrowmaster | that seems high |
| 14:36.20 | Ackis | yeah it is (hence why I laughed at the guy and said no thank you) |
| 14:36.26 | Arrowmaster | each door is just a standard single door right? nothing fancy? |
| 14:36.49 | Ackis | yeah standard 6 panel door |
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| 14:37.42 | ZorbaGama | seems rather ridiculous to me, unless the frame is heavily damaged |
| 14:37.56 | Ackis | doors come with new frames |
| 14:38.01 | Arrowmaster | let me see if my dad is around, not exactly his area of expertise but he was a custom cabinet/etc maker |
| 14:38.06 | ZorbaGama | mmm, do they? then it might be some extra work |
| 14:38.09 | Ackis | thanks Arrowmaster |
| 14:38.45 | Arrowmaster | and that quote was with new frames and installation? |
| 14:38.57 | Ackis | ZorbaGama: they guy on the phone stated "The doors they sell in store are "inferior and will last 5 years only." so I knew he was wanting to sell me a more expensive door |
| 14:39.12 | ZorbaGama | that'd be an impressively inferior door |
| 14:39.19 | Arrowmaster | rofl |
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| 14:39.38 | ZorbaGama | we sell you door made from cats |
| 14:39.42 | ZorbaGama | make sure to feed cats well |
| 14:39.45 | ZorbaGama | rotten cats make bad door |
| 14:39.49 | Ackis | hehe |
| 14:40.00 | Arrowmaster | fucking front door on this house is older than i am and its the kind with the fucking huge ass glass panel taking up 75% of the door |
| 14:40.19 | Ackis | I'm wondering if homedepot will respond to me calling them a scammers on twitter (I know twitter r srs busnss) |
| 14:41.28 | ^RaK^ | I think every company who has a twitter thing just gets bad shit spammed on it :) |
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| 14:41.37 | ^RaK^ | bollocks social marketing |
| 14:42.15 | Ackis | some of them scan for their names, some respond to every @ them as well |
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| 14:44.08 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: it was homedepot you called? |
| 14:44.13 | Ackis | yeah |
| 14:44.39 | Arrowmaster | i asked my dad and he said that much for a standard non fancy exterior door seemed excessive |
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| 14:45.21 | Ackis | yeah I wasn't after a door with windows in it, nor a door that has "side panels"... just a steel, white door with a frame |
| 14:45.23 | Arrowmaster | assuming installation was included |
| 14:46.12 | mikma | i freaking love this beta |
| 14:46.14 | Fisker | slaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:46.17 | ^RaK^ | :( |
| 14:46.27 | Ackis | slaps Fisker around with a Fisker |
| 14:46.28 | Lopeppeppy | Call around regular contractors, find out how much they charge per hour versus what the Despot people do. |
| 14:46.33 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:46.59 | Lopeppeppy | I've often found it's cheaper to go with the contractor to pick out items they need for install, and have them do it, than pay for Home Despot or Lowsers to do it. |
| 14:47.12 | mikma | <3 Vashj'ir |
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| 14:47.35 | Arrowmaster | contractors will likely be cheaper im guessing since they get contractor rates from suppliers |
| 14:47.39 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: that's the next step, home depot had a sale on doors... there's some guys a few houses down from us renovating the house that had the fire, so I'm trying to get a hold of them to see what they'd charge, or if they'd do it even |
| 14:48.01 | Fisker | What do you need doors for? |
| 14:48.06 | Fisker | Keeping me out? |
| 14:48.18 | Lopeppeppy | That's one use, sure. |
| 14:48.41 | Arrowmaster | meh my front door is always open but then again somebody is also always home and almost always awake |
| 14:49.11 | Ackis | I would never want to keep Fisker our |
| 14:49.12 | Ackis | *out |
| 14:49.18 | Fisker | yay |
| 14:49.30 | Lopeppeppy | It's to keep him in, so I'm safer? |
| 14:49.53 | Ackis | yup |
| 14:50.00 | Ackis | locked in the dungeon |
| 14:51.31 | Fisker | thats mean |
| 14:51.41 | Lopeppeppy | I'd feed you. |
| 14:51.43 | Lopeppeppy | Sometimes. |
| 14:51.45 | Lopeppeppy | When I remember. |
| 14:53.00 | Arrowmaster | i dont even remember to feed myself before hunger distracts me from other things, he wouldnt last a week with me |
| 14:53.17 | Ackis | I have a fiancée to feed me now |
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| 14:57.55 | Fisker | slaps cog|work around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:59.18 | cog|work | Fisker: is it a caffeinated trout at least? |
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| 15:00.41 | Ackis | hallo netcurse |
| 15:00.47 | netcurse | Hi :) |
| 15:01.53 | foxlit | --We use 0 instead of nil'ing out because we don't want to mess with 'next' (used in pairs) |
| 15:02.01 | Fisker | No cog|work |
| 15:02.04 | foxlit | ... |
| 15:02.13 | Fisker | it's a vengeful trout |
| 15:02.17 | Fisker | for not saying hi, etc. |
| 15:03.07 | Fisker | but tomorrow i has remote cog|work |
| 15:03.08 | cog|work | Fisker: my microbe in Spore is named C. Gnomereganis |
| 15:03.16 | Fisker | and i can finally control you |
| 15:04.09 | Ackis | so lotro is getting lua support this fall |
| 15:04.22 | Fisker | noone cares |
| 15:05.50 | Arrowmaster | foxlit: isnt that an old comment? |
| 15:06.03 | Arrowmaster | i remember seeing it before |
| 15:06.17 | nicoli_s | Ackis: thats what i hear |
| 15:06.24 | nicoli_s | which i think will be cool |
| 15:06.32 | nicoli_s | the more games supporting addons the better :) |
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| 15:07.13 | foxlit | Arrowmaster: yes. |
| 15:07.50 | foxlit | It's an instant /headdesk on behalf of the people who wrote the animation system. |
| 15:08.15 | Fisker | i lold btw |
| 15:08.23 | Fisker | druids can't do TotC |
| 15:08.34 | Ackis | nicoli_s: give Chip and Michael a heads up about that they might have to make changes to make it work |
| 15:08.38 | Fisker | Since there's no animations for the snobolds on Icehowl |
| 15:08.46 | Arrowmaster | i think its one of the reasons i made my offer of if somebody gives me a blizzcon ticket i will stand in line for one of the ui q&a's and say 'hi im arrowmaster former maintainer of the addons cartographer, fubar, ace2, and many other libraries created in the wowace community. who is the intern you are letting do all the ui lua coding since you moved slouken and zootfizzle to the secret mmo project and c |
| 15:08.53 | Arrowmaster | an you point me to said intern so i may slap them?' |
| 15:09.40 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 15:09.44 | Fisker | nicoli_s ! |
| 15:09.51 | nicoli_s | im just looking forward to yelling at the wowhead people at blizzcon |
| 15:09.52 | Fisker | bro? |
| 15:10.01 | Fisker | i'd yell at Wowhead people too |
| 15:10.21 | nicoli_s | ill prob hassle the playata people if they are there too |
| 15:10.46 | jnwhiteh | Arrowmaster: your question would make you look like a fool, considering the reality of the situation =) |
| 15:11.13 | jnwhiteh | given that I know the majority of the UI team personally =) |
| 15:11.24 | jnwhiteh | whats the particular gripe this time? |
| 15:12.16 | Arrowmaster | jnwhiteh: well there has been a lot of really stupid shit done since those two left, and one person said my offer was extremely tempting and they would have to get back to me on it |
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| 15:12.44 | jnwhiteh | There aren't any interns right now, fyi =) |
| 15:13.23 | jnwhiteh | sure, Slouken was better.. but he designed the system from the ground up |
| 15:13.39 | Arrowmaster | well the particular gripe this time is the comment " --We use 0 instead of nil'ing out because we don't want to mess with 'next' (used in pairs)" and the code its referring to |
| 15:13.44 | jnwhiteh | everyone who has stepped in since then has had to learn everything from the past 8 years or so |
| 15:13.46 | cbreak_work | why do you want to slap the poor interns? |
| 15:13.55 | Fisker | jnwhiteh |
| 15:14.01 | Fisker | imma gettin mah remote |
| 15:14.05 | cbreak_work | just because they are bad programmers? |
| 15:14.08 | jnwhiteh | The person who wrote that system was not an experienced Lua coder, he didn't write Lua code |
| 15:14.24 | jnwhiteh | had a bug, 'fixed it' and left a comment that didn't quite make sense in place |
| 15:15.14 | cbreak_work | well, good luck with the slapping :) |
| 15:15.27 | Arrowmaster | reference manual explicitly mentions in the pairs() entry that nil'ing out the current key does not have any effect on future iteration |
| 15:15.40 | jnwhiteh | I am aware, thanks! |
| 15:15.49 | jnwhiteh | I appreciate the education </sarcasm> |
| 15:15.55 | jnwhiteh | so he made a mistake |
| 15:16.14 | jnwhiteh | I think you're blowing the 'mistakes' out of proportion just a little bit |
| 15:16.30 | Arrowmaster | well im just saying the first thing i would have done would have been to check the manual |
| 15:16.43 | Ackis | mistake in the comment or the code? |
| 15:17.19 | ^RaK^ | theres a manual? (im new :<) |
| 15:17.22 | jnwhiteh | 1. It works, 2. It's documented |
| 15:17.37 | Ackis | ~pil |
| 15:17.38 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 15:17.42 | Ackis | ^RaK^: ^ |
| 15:17.44 | jnwhiteh | just because its' not idiomatic Lua and its based on a false premise doesn't make it as bad as you're making it out to be |
| 15:17.46 | ^RaK^ | ta :) |
| 15:17.54 | jnwhiteh | ~luarefman |
| 15:17.55 | purl | luarefman is probably http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html |
| 15:17.59 | jnwhiteh | that's the reference manual |
| 15:18.01 | jnwhiteh | PiL is not. |
| 15:18.06 | cog|work | actually the manua..... damn you jnwhiteh |
| 15:18.08 | cog|work | :P |
| 15:18.09 | Arrowmaster | and jnwhiteh just created that factoid |
| 15:18.12 | jnwhiteh | nope |
| 15:18.17 | jnwhiteh | ~factinfo luarefman |
| 15:18.17 | purl | luarefman -- created by cladhaire <i=jnw@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire> at Tue Jul 8 14:56:28 2008 (741 days); it has been requested 4 times, last by jnwhiteh, 22s ago. |
| 15:18.25 | Xinhuan | hahaha |
| 15:18.25 | jnwhiteh | I created it 741 days ago |
| 15:18.27 | jnwhiteh | bitch-tits. |
| 15:18.29 | Arrowmaster | damn you |
| 15:18.35 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 15:18.44 | Ackis | jnwhiteh is on a roll today :P |
| 15:18.49 | Fisker | slaps jnwhiteh around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:18.56 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 15:18.56 | Fisker | DENIED |
| 15:19.06 | ^RaK^ | thanks, bookmarked both anyway :) |
| 15:19.40 | cog|work | http://bit.ly/ahwmvP |
| 15:19.41 | Ackis | I don't think I used the actual reference manual, just pil |
| 15:19.54 | Xinhuan | i used both while learning lua 4 years ago :) |
| 15:20.32 | Ackis | oh I'm sure the ref manual would've come in very handy |
| 15:20.38 | Ackis | I blame jnwhiteh for not telling me |
| 15:21.35 | foxlit | So I'm chasing another taint bug |
| 15:21.46 | cog|work | foxlit: there are drugs for that |
| 15:21.58 | cog|work | <.< |
| 15:22.07 | Arrowmaster | cog|work: i think that has "Rofling" on it.... |
| 15:22.08 | foxlit | My working theory is that it only appears if the animation system fires finishing functions in a particular order. |
| 15:22.14 | Ackis | are those related to crabs? |
| 15:22.15 | Adys | A fly just flew on my laptop keyboard |
| 15:22.21 | Adys | and i slammed it closed |
| 15:22.32 | Adys | this is probably the best moment of my life this year |
| 15:22.43 | cog|work | Ackis: did you know that humans got crabs from gorillas? |
| 15:22.50 | foxlit | wonder how plausible that is. |
| 15:23.15 | Adys | foxlit: i can slam your head in my laptop too |
| 15:23.34 | Ackis | cog|work: that's... disturbing |
| 15:23.41 | cog|work | http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/03/070307152957.htm |
| 15:24.16 | Ackis | says it 's fake like climate change |
| 15:24.43 | cog|work | i say your boobs are fake! |
| 15:25.05 | Arrowmaster | foxlit: did you ever do anything about that taint bug i pointed out the cause for that i had actually pointed out years ago? |
| 15:25.24 | foxlit | Arrowmaster: which? |
| 15:25.31 | Arrowmaster | the SetItemRef() one |
| 15:25.37 | foxlit | Oh, yes. |
| 15:25.54 | foxlit | Fixed; I no longer hook SIR. |
| 15:26.00 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 15:28.03 | Arrowmaster | ok its almost 11:30am i should go get some sleep |
| 15:29.25 | Cide | cog|work, where is christianity? |
| 15:29.30 | Cide | nvm |
| 15:29.31 | Cide | C |
| 15:30.38 | nicoli_s | mmmm eating monkeys |
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| 15:46.20 | Wobin | Speaking Up: The Sarah Palin Story, a biography of Sarah Palin aimed at 9-12 year olds and written by Kim Washburn was slated to pub in October, but has been delayed "indefinitely," according to the Associated Press. |
| 15:46.26 | Wobin | ... whut |
| 15:48.04 | Cide | it was rated M for Mature |
| 15:48.14 | Cide | damn ESRB |
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| 15:49.25 | Mr_Rabies | what was, cide? |
| 15:49.35 | Cide | sarah palin's story |
| 15:49.42 | cog|work | Mr_Rabies: cide has implicit <sarcasm> tags |
| 15:49.56 | Mr_Rabies | oh ok |
| 15:49.56 | Mr_Rabies | derp |
| 15:50.22 | Mr_Rabies | i thought i missed a conversation on a new game or something, thought i was getting some weird packet loss or something |
| 15:50.46 | Fisker | slaps Cide around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:50.59 | Fisker | slaps Wobin around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:52.28 | Adys | According to Mike Sego, a former Gmail engineer, "shva" is an acronym for "should have valid authentication". Apparently, the parameter is only included after a successful authentication. |
| 15:52.36 | Adys | one mystery less to solve |
| 15:53.11 | Cide | I like how you get it after authenticating |
| 15:53.21 | Cide | but it's like "yeah, he SHOULD have valid authentication, but don't trust it!" |
| 15:53.28 | Cide | how's your desire Adys? |
| 15:54.55 | Adys | bmw.co.uk/buyonline/order/success/?phvcc=1 |
| 15:55.15 | Adys | Cide: it's quite good. sometimes the os bugs out in dragging state, was that fixed in a later update? |
| 15:55.30 | Cide | never experienced it |
| 15:55.35 | Adys | (i dont have a sd card yet, for some reason the one i had didnt fit - 4gb) |
| 15:55.45 | Cide | there wasn't one included? |
| 15:55.45 | Adys | probably has valid credit card for the thick ones |
| 15:55.57 | Adys | Cide, there was but i removed it |
| 15:56.01 | Cide | why? |
| 15:57.26 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 15:57.30 | jnwhiteh | I'm apparently a top contributer for Go |
| 15:57.38 | Cide | haha |
| 15:57.40 | Cide | nice |
| 15:57.59 | jnwhiteh | wonder what metric they use to arrive at that :P |
| 15:58.16 | Adys | just felt like it |
| 15:58.16 | Adys | have to go anyway, low on battery |
| 15:58.16 | Adys | it's a good phone tho |
| 15:58.16 | Adys | getting an o2 sub tomorrow |
| 15:58.55 | jnwhiteh | root it |
| 15:59.00 | jnwhiteh | before they break the rooting process |
| 15:59.05 | jnwhiteh | the root process for nexus one is HILARIOUS |
| 15:59.53 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FavUpD_IjVY&feature=player_embedded |
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| 16:04.52 | jnwhiteh | you downgrade to a certain version |
| 16:04.55 | jnwhiteh | and then start the update process |
| 16:05.08 | jnwhiteh | and after its opened the update.zip file you give it |
| 16:05.11 | jnwhiteh | you replace it with another |
| 16:05.14 | jnwhiteh | and it just goes with it |
| 16:05.22 | jnwhiteh | timing attack, brilliant |
| 16:06.49 | foxlit | np++ is weird |
| 16:07.10 | Warloco | o_o |
| 16:07.22 | foxlit | It allows me to find "[\n\r]+ Execution tainted by RangeColors while reading ActionButton_OnUpd" |
| 16:07.27 | foxlit | but not"[\n\r]+ Execution tainted by RangeColors while reading ActionButton_OnUpda" |
| 16:07.38 | Warloco | whips Blizzard and gestures for them to hurry up already |
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| 16:08.38 | Lunessa | station |
| 16:08.46 | cog|work | morning! |
| 16:09.01 | Fisker | slaps jnwhiteh around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:09.30 | foxlit | lua> #("[\n\r]+ Execution tainted by RangeColors while reading ActionButton_OnUpd") |
| 16:09.33 | lua_bot | foxlit: 71 |
| 16:09.46 | Fisker | i am invincible |
| 16:10.38 | Lunessa | Fisker: That means you die in a goofy fashion by the end of the movie. |
| 16:11.32 | nicoli_s | like being eaten by some giant animal |
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| 16:13.50 | Fisker | damnit Lunessa |
| 16:14.00 | Fisker | i don't want to be the comic relief |
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| 16:16.40 | Lunessa | You said the line. The universe will act accordingly. |
| 16:17.03 | Fisker | but i'm really invincible |
| 16:17.05 | Fisker | :( |
| 16:17.45 | Lunessa | Didn't you see Goldeneye? At the very least, a giant load of reactor coolant is going to land on your head, killing you instantly. |
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| 16:35.37 | Kraps | is it possible for a game to crash a display driver? |
| 16:35.44 | Ackis | yes |
| 16:35.46 | Ackis | no |
| 16:35.50 | Ackis | I dunno |
| 16:35.52 | Ackis | but I think yes |
| 16:36.10 | Kraps | i think thats what Crysis is doing |
| 16:36.18 | Cide | jnwhiteh, since I'm too lazy to do research, why should I root it? |
| 16:36.20 | Ackis | wow used to do it to me all the time |
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| 16:36.36 | jnwhiteh | Cide: Once you've rooted, you can do anything, including unroot the phone |
| 16:36.42 | Cide | well yeah |
| 16:36.48 | jnwhiteh | however, as you install updates, they block the ability to root the phone |
| 16:36.50 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 16:36.50 | Cide | but what does that actually allow me to do that's useful |
| 16:36.59 | Cide | wow |
| 16:37.01 | Cide | that made no sense at all |
| 16:37.02 | jnwhiteh | install custom ROMs for one |
| 16:37.06 | Kraps | Ackis: will lower display setting help? |
| 16:37.10 | Cide | oh |
| 16:37.12 | Cide | it did make sense |
| 16:37.13 | jnwhiteh | I root my phones, so that they can't stop me from being able to root my phone |
| 16:37.14 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 16:37.19 | Cide | lol |
| 16:37.31 | Ackis | Kraps: I have no idea what the solution is, I ended up reformatting and it fixed it ;) |
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| 16:37.53 | cog|work | Cide: http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Why_Root |
| 16:38.05 | Cide | thanks for googling for me! |
| 16:38.21 | cog|work | Cide: i looked that up when i asked jnwhiteh the same question last year... |
| 16:38.27 | Cide | ah |
| 16:38.27 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 16:38.38 | Kraps | Ackis: :/ |
| 16:40.22 | Fisker | jnwhiteh |
| 16:40.24 | Fisker | hello |
| 16:40.39 | cog|work | Refactoring in python: SHIFT-TAB |
| 16:40.54 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 16:41.02 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: Hello. |
| 16:41.39 | Fisker | yay |
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| 16:41.58 | Cide | best part about python |
| 16:42.05 | Cide | there's never a need to reflow code! |
| 16:43.26 | Morkesh | sylvanaar: you there? :) |
| 16:44.11 | frontendloader | I hate lua :( |
| 16:45.39 | Xinhuan | kraps, definitely possible to crash a display driver ;p |
| 16:45.53 | Xinhuan | the goal of a programmer is not to do it! |
| 16:45.55 | Cloudwolf | frontendloader Lua hates you too |
| 16:46.36 | Xinhuan | its also exceedingly easy to put the graphics card in an infinite loop in shader code |
| 16:46.48 | Xinhuan | if you aren't careful with parallax mapping at least |
| 16:51.31 | cog|work | ~lart frontendloader |
| 16:51.31 | purl | executes killall -TERM frontendloader |
| 16:51.55 | cog|work | hating Lua implies not grokking Lua imo |
| 16:52.24 | Lunessa | New water graphics in Cataclysm kill the performance on my video card. :( |
| 16:52.42 | Ackis | I woke up this morning with crumbs in my bed between my and Chantelle |
| 16:52.45 | mikma | jnwhiteh: i love beta |
| 16:52.52 | jnwhiteh | gzgz! |
| 16:52.59 | jnwhiteh | what do you like about it? |
| 16:53.07 | Ackis | turns out the cats knocked some dog snacks on the floor downstairs, and he brought them up to eat in bed |
| 16:53.27 | mikma | jnwhiteh: tbh, everything so far :D all the changes are good |
| 16:53.38 | mikma | i am hard to please but these changes have succeeded |
| 16:53.59 | cog|work | Ackis: our dog gets defensive over his food whenever the cats walk into the room. he'll jump down off the bed, grab a couple pieces, bring them up onto the bed, and promptly fall asleep |
| 16:54.05 | NightHawkTheSane | personally, i like southshore the best. >.> |
| 16:54.31 | cog|work | leaving the kibble for us to find the next day (or night) |
| 16:54.49 | mikma | Vashj'ir and 60% faster speed when at sea floor <3 <3 <3 |
| 16:54.52 | Ackis | lol cog|work |
| 16:55.08 | Ackis | netflix is coming to Canada folks!!!!! http://www.netflix.ca/ w00t |
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| 16:55.51 | cog|work | They took our DVDs! |
| 16:55.59 | cog|work | (in "they took our jobs" voice) |
| 16:56.07 | |Jelly| | I WANT IT BACK! |
| 16:56.10 | Cloudwolf | and now i wait for cairenn to get an update from blizzard :D |
| 16:56.13 | Cide | nice jpeg compression artifacts on the TV |
| 16:56.28 | Cide | well, all over the picture really |
| 16:56.33 | Lunessa | http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0736.html |
| 16:58.18 | Ackis | any players of rockband games here? |
| 16:58.40 | |Jelly| | <-- |
| 16:58.51 | |Jelly| | Even though Lunessa never comes. SIX HOUR DRIVE BE DAMNED! |
| 16:58.55 | Jamash | rockband! |
| 16:59.20 | Lunessa | Dude, you want me to drive 6 hours to play rockband and drink crappy beer? |
| 16:59.21 | Ackis | |Jelly|: I just got lego rockband for $10, can I play that with a controller or do I actually need the drums/etc... and what the hell is this export code for? |
| 16:59.40 | Jamash | 1. Yes but no |
| 17:00.18 | Jamash | 2. it allows you to export the music from the game to the console's music library |
| 17:00.27 | |Jelly| | IIRC, you need the drums however, I've never attempted to play without. The export code is so that you can export the songs to be played in Rockband 2, so that you don't have to keep swapping discs. |
| 17:00.54 | |Jelly| | And wait ... crappy beer? You don't even know what beer we drink! |
| 17:01.09 | Jamash | 3. BONESTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORM |
| 17:01.48 | mikma | Obsidian Chunk ... |
| 17:01.55 | mikma | aren't those the same in AQ? |
| 17:02.01 | Jamash | I don't think so |
| 17:02.04 | Cloudwolf | lol jamash |
| 17:02.12 | Cloudwolf | thats a realy annoying ability to bad the bosss is realy easy otherwise |
| 17:03.07 | |Jelly| | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/ -- oh, I can't wait. |
| 17:03.40 | mikma | jnwhiteh: do you play in us or in eu? |
| 17:03.41 | Jamash | http://www.wowwiki.com/Obsidian |
| 17:03.50 | jnwhiteh | i dont really right now. |
| 17:04.08 | mikma | how come? |
| 17:04.09 | Jamash | didn't someone in this channel already suggest worgen freeman |
| 17:04.37 | Cloudwolf | Heh i wouldn't be surprised |
| 17:04.49 | Lunessa | http://www.somethingpositive.net/sp07182010.shtml |
| 17:05.21 | mikma | jnwhiteh: ANSWER MEEEEE! |
| 17:06.29 | jnwhiteh | cause I don't have much time |
| 17:07.04 | mikma | what's taking up your time then? |
| 17:07.08 | jnwhiteh | work |
| 17:07.09 | jnwhiteh | gym |
| 17:07.12 | jnwhiteh | masturbation |
| 17:07.30 | cog|work | you need to pipeline the latter with the former 2 imo |
| 17:07.36 | Jamash | you can do at least one of those things while playing wow |
| 17:08.02 | Cloudwolf | lol |
| 17:08.15 | mikma | jnwhiteh: i like your timespending |
| 17:08.35 | mikma | jnwhiteh: gonna visit us soon? |
| 17:08.43 | jnwhiteh | I'd like to this winter |
| 17:08.51 | jnwhiteh | but we have to sort my UK visa out first =) |
| 17:09.30 | mikma | oh, be sure to do the trip after january :) |
| 17:09.34 | mikma | it's the most snowy time |
| 17:09.48 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
| 17:09.55 | jnwhiteh | depends on when we need to teach |
| 17:10.02 | jnwhiteh | we've both got a busy January -> March this year :P |
| 17:11.03 | mikma | teach? teaching people how to loooooove? |
| 17:11.13 | Cloudwolf | http://notalwaysright.com/that-would-be-a-mis-steak/4565 >.> for some reason i don't think this ones fake... |
| 17:11.20 | Cloudwolf | O.o |
| 17:11.35 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 17:12.20 | mikma | jnwhiteh: visit us soon and you're gonna see teh new baby! |
| 17:12.50 | jnwhiteh | yaya! |
| 17:12.54 | jnwhiteh | very excited! |
| 17:12.59 | jnwhiteh | what airport shoudl we fly into |
| 17:13.02 | jnwhiteh | i'll look at flights |
| 17:13.13 | mikma | Tampere |
| 17:13.17 | mikma | that's like 20km from where we live |
| 17:13.22 | mikma | it's Tampere, Pirkkala |
| 17:13.37 | mikma | Helsinki is the capital of Finland and that's 1,5h away |
| 17:14.02 | jnwhiteh | holy shit |
| 17:14.06 | jnwhiteh | these flights are cheap. |
| 17:14.15 | mikma | how cheap? |
| 17:14.18 | jnwhiteh | $250 |
| 17:14.32 | mikma | that's cheap?!? :I |
| 17:14.41 | jnwhiteh | very! |
| 17:14.46 | jnwhiteh | well |
| 17:14.54 | mikma | jnwhiteh: what's the closest airport you got? |
| 17:15.01 | jnwhiteh | London Heathrow |
| 17:15.21 | jnwhiteh | Gatwick |
| 17:15.22 | jnwhiteh | well |
| 17:15.24 | Cloudwolf | lol Mikma because if its not soon itll be an old baby |
| 17:15.27 | jnwhiteh | the closest is 'London Oxford' |
| 17:15.30 | jnwhiteh | which.. is not in London |
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| 17:16.05 | mikma | jnwhiteh: london-gatwick, london luton, london-stansted are the options here |
| 17:16.20 | jnwhiteh | Finnair flies from LHR to TMP |
| 17:16.23 | jnwhiteh | through Helsinki |
| 17:16.35 | mikma | no no no |
| 17:16.37 | jnwhiteh | Air Baltic flies through Gatwick |
| 17:16.40 | mikma | pick one of those airports |
| 17:16.43 | mikma | that is the closest |
| 17:16.44 | jnwhiteh | umm |
| 17:16.46 | jnwhiteh | london-gatwick |
| 17:17.03 | Ackis | |Jelly|, Jamash: so export code only unlocks the songs for regular rock band + you have to pay $10 for the songs? |
| 17:17.37 | mikma | jnwhiteh: pparently London-Stansted is the only one with this firm, moment |
| 17:17.51 | cog|work | http://www.macroexplain.com/ |
| 17:17.54 | jnwhiteh | I mean, I can get to Stansted |
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| 17:18.44 | mikma | jnwhiteh: 33.99gbp / person |
| 17:18.51 | jnwhiteh | What airline? |
| 17:18.57 | mikma | jnwhiteh: http://www.ryanair.com/en -> London-Stansted -> Tampere |
| 17:19.04 | jnwhiteh | Ryanair is a nightmare =) |
| 17:19.06 | mikma | that was 1st of october |
| 17:19.09 | jnwhiteh | although if we can't fly BA, we might consider it. |
| 17:19.10 | mikma | it's a nightmare, but a cheapmare |
| 17:19.11 | |Jelly| | You have to pay a re-licensing fee. |
| 17:19.17 | |Jelly| | Which is pretty weak, I'll agree. |
| 17:20.35 | mikma | jnwhiteh: apparently there's some offer with ryanair, tampere -> london 8e |
| 17:21.01 | mikma | jnwhiteh: http://www.ryanair.com/fi/cheap-tampere-finland-kaunas-lithuania-flights |
| 17:21.30 | jnwhiteh | *nod* |
| 17:21.33 | jnwhiteh | we can definitely get there |
| 17:21.36 | jnwhiteh | just gotta find the time |
| 17:21.40 | jnwhiteh | Tom and I will look at let you know :P |
| 17:22.47 | Ackis | |Jelly|: ok, that is lame :( do the songs play in any rockband game then? |
| 17:23.50 | |Jelly| | I'm not sure. The only game I've ever imported to was Rockband 2 |
| 17:24.06 | mikma | jnwhiteh: so, if we decide to visit england sometime, we can stay at your place for a night/two? :D |
| 17:24.25 | mikma | jnwhiteh: cause you know, there's always room here for you two! |
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| 17:25.04 | jnwhiteh | of course =) |
| 17:25.37 | mikma | jnwhiteh: johanna misses tesco :D |
| 17:25.51 | jnwhiteh | I can bring her stuff =) |
| 17:26.14 | mikma | heh neat! |
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| 17:59.11 | Adys | I am interested to port the wine interface to the xulrunner back to mswindows to access the xulrunner via a IE compatible interface. So it would be easy to replace an embedded IE with the gecko-engine. |
| 17:59.12 | Adys | seriously |
| 17:59.23 | Adys | people need to learn how FUCKING SHIT XUL IS |
| 17:59.40 | ccox | Q: What's the difference between "Folksy" and "dumber than a rock"? A: I've yet to see Palin say anything "Folksy". |
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| 18:05.42 | mikma | now that i've been playing without any addons, there's like 2~ addons i really miss |
| 18:06.06 | frontendloader | no inventory management makes me a sad panda |
| 18:06.57 | Adys | ~ping |
| 18:06.58 | purl | ~pong |
| 18:07.06 | frontendloader | ~ding |
| 18:07.07 | purl | dong |
| 18:08.53 | Fisker | slaps purl around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:09.01 | Cloudwolf | frontendloader talkinga bout no one bag or arcinventory? |
| 18:10.06 | Lunessa | Actually, I could stand to play a little less "World of InventoyrCraft" |
| 18:10.58 | Cloudwolf | i never understoodt he idea of look our bags open individually |
| 18:11.05 | Cloudwolf | they don't combine into 1 cool bag that its easy to organize |
| 18:11.12 | cbreak | http://arstechnica.com/security/news/2010/07/millions-of-soho-routers-vulnerable-to-new-version-of-old-attack.ars |
| 18:11.14 | cbreak | interesting |
| 18:12.25 | Cloudwolf | :D im safe! dlink to the rescue! |
| 18:16.04 | cog|work | http://i38.tinypic.com/140eo3l.jpg |
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| 18:16.29 | Maldivia | cute |
| 18:16.37 | cbreak | "In the meantime, the best defense is probably to ensure that your router does not use the default password." |
| 18:16.41 | cbreak | yay, I am not vulnerable either |
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| 18:16.52 | Maldivia | cog: it's not a feature though, it is a bug :P |
| 18:17.10 | cog|work | from http://stackoverflow.com/questions/234075/what-is-your-best-programmer-joke |
| 18:17.17 | ccox | before connecting the external network or antennas (for wireless routers), I change passwords |
| 18:17.34 | mikma | wants latest and greatest live patch into beta |
| 18:17.42 | mikma | also wants to bbq fisker |
| 18:17.58 | Niv | I want it tied into beta |
| 18:18.39 | cog|work | Saying that Java is nice because it works on every OS is like saying that anal sex is nice because it works on every gender. |
| 18:18.49 | fiphi | Well... isn't it? |
| 18:18.49 | fiphi | :}+ |
| 18:19.04 | Zasurus | Hi |
| 18:19.10 | cog|work | hi |
| 18:20.06 | cog|work | readies ~asktoask |
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| 18:20.43 | Zasurus | Anyone any good with textures etc? I want to create a shape from several other shapes (like a few square textures overlapping each other) then make the whole shape slightly transparent without seeing the seperate shapes overlapping... If that makes sence! :-) |
| 18:20.56 | Cide | that makes no sence at all |
| 18:21.01 | cog|work | puts ~asktoask away |
| 18:21.02 | Cide | but a limited amount of sense |
| 18:21.04 | Zasurus | Great lol |
| 18:21.26 | Cide | and that's doable but you'll need some precise math |
| 18:21.32 | Cide | and also variable transparency |
| 18:21.39 | cog|work | Yeah, you have to cut up the textures properly and anchor them next to each other |
| 18:21.46 | Zasurus | Oh so cut each shape up? |
| 18:21.53 | cog|work | yeah, using texture coords |
| 18:21.55 | Zasurus | So they don't overlap? |
| 18:21.56 | Cide | and also why not just make a single shape |
| 18:22.01 | Cide | in an image editing program |
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| 18:22.10 | Zasurus | I would but they are dynamicly generated |
| 18:22.15 | Cide | ... |
| 18:22.19 | Cide | what? |
| 18:22.26 | cog|work | the shapes |
| 18:22.32 | cog|work | Cide: lern2lessliteral |
| 18:22.33 | cog|work | :P |
| 18:22.35 | Zasurus | as in the shape is made by the game |
| 18:22.42 | Cide | is this not for wow? |
| 18:22.47 | Zasurus | yer for wow |
| 18:23.04 | Cide | then you're pretty screwed if you want them transparent |
| 18:23.12 | Zasurus | :-( |
| 18:23.13 | cog|work | ~lart Cide |
| 18:23.13 | purl | whacks Cide with a giant beaver's tail |
| 18:23.16 | Cide | cog|work, it's true? |
| 18:23.26 | cog|work | points out cutting up the textures |
| 18:23.42 | cog|work | not actually the image files themselves |
| 18:23.44 | Cide | say you want to do it with two circles intersecting |
| 18:23.45 | Zasurus | So I can't kinda flatten the shapes into one texture? Or add the textures together into one in wow? |
| 18:23.49 | Cide | how would you do that cog|work? |
| 18:23.52 | cog|work | but just setting texture objects using different parts of the square |
| 18:24.16 | Cide | two semi-transparent circles half intersecting but they should appear to have the same transparency all over |
| 18:24.22 | cog|work | Cide: didn't you ever play with construction paper and scissors as a kid? |
| 18:24.26 | Cide | I did |
| 18:24.32 | Cide | not |
| 18:24.41 | Zasurus | Yer Cide thats what I mean |
| 18:24.49 | Cide | but with scissors you're not constrained to squares |
| 18:24.55 | Cide | how would you do it cog|work? :P |
| 18:25.08 | cog|work | Cide: he specifically said square textures |
| 18:25.17 | Cide | the intersecting portions both need half the transparency as the non-intersecting portions |
| 18:25.19 | cog|work | 11:20 < Zasurus> Anyone any good with textures etc? I want to create a shape from several other shapes (like a few square textures overlapping each other) |
| 18:25.30 | Cide | in his example |
| 18:25.37 | Cide | "shape" is not the word you use for rectangle |
| 18:25.44 | cbreak | I wrote the ArtPad addon |
| 18:25.45 | Cide | shape is the generic term |
| 18:25.52 | cbreak | it can create any shape out of one single texture |
| 18:25.59 | cbreak | where any shape is limited to outlines |
| 18:26.05 | Cide | outlines? |
| 18:26.10 | cbreak | contours |
| 18:26.18 | cbreak | it can make things that are built out of lines |
| 18:26.24 | Cide | that's not very useful then |
| 18:26.27 | Zasurus | I Could only use squares but was hopping to be able to add a load of textures to gether (including some plain circles etc) and turn them all into one shape |
| 18:26.28 | cbreak | depends. |
| 18:26.41 | cbreak | a pencil can also only make things that are made from lines |
| 18:26.42 | Cide | it's easy if you're not looking to add semi-transparency |
| 18:26.55 | cbreak | yeah. |
| 18:27.08 | Zasurus | I see cbreak so build up the shape from loads of lines |
| 18:27.13 | cbreak | you'd have to have some agregation buffer if you'd want mixing with semi transparency |
| 18:27.13 | Cide | a pencil doesn't use memory that's proportional to the number of pixels :P |
| 18:27.30 | Cide | or not pixels but lines |
| 18:27.40 | cbreak | depends. |
| 18:27.51 | Cide | you like that word don't you |
| 18:27.52 | cbreak | it uses graphite dust proportional to the length of the trace |
| 18:28.02 | cbreak | yes. It's one of my favorites |
| 18:28.05 | Cide | that's not memory though |
| 18:28.10 | cbreak | together with "maybe" and "probably" |
| 18:29.34 | cog|work | "Modern versions of Windows reply, "happy was unexpected at this time", which I think is even funnier :-) " |
| 18:29.36 | Zasurus | I guess I could do it with squares and make sure they don't overlap :-( |
| 18:30.20 | Zasurus | Guess there is no way to "CUT" one texture out of another is there? |
| 18:30.26 | cbreak | sure |
| 18:30.30 | Zasurus | In wow? |
| 18:30.30 | Cide | why do you need semi-transparency so badly? |
| 18:30.31 | cbreak | at least there was |
| 18:30.38 | cbreak | texture coordinates |
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| 18:30.48 | Zasurus | as a map overlay that was all red would make reading the map hard! ;-) |
| 18:30.59 | Cide | a map overlay? |
| 18:31.28 | Cide | how many unique shapes are you looking at? |
| 18:31.55 | Zasurus | 10-50 on the screen at once I guess |
| 18:32.03 | Cide | different shapes |
| 18:32.09 | foxlit | cbreak: a bit limited; it's not proper masking |
| 18:32.11 | Zasurus | yer mainly squares |
| 18:32.35 | cbreak | foxlit: indeed. It's a rectangular subshape afaik |
| 18:32.49 | Cide | you can do better I'm sure |
| 18:32.53 | Zasurus | I can't find anything on "Texture coordinates" any urls? |
| 18:33.03 | Cide | you can do any shape that can be linearly transformed into a rectangle |
| 18:33.05 | Cide | I think |
| 18:33.06 | Cide | in theory |
| 18:33.11 | cog|work | If you put a million monkeys at a million keyboards, one of them will eventually write a Java program. The rest of them will write Perl programs. |
| 18:33.12 | cbreak | I just remember that they were a bit like OpenGLs |
| 18:33.13 | foxlit | It'll transform any oblong into a rectangle |
| 18:33.18 | cbreak | not touched that code in years |
| 18:33.41 | Cide | cog|work, that's funny |
| 18:34.25 | Cide | nvm |
| 18:34.43 | Cide | I guess you can't transform it back without losing the shape in the subset step |
| 18:36.06 | cog|work | google recursion "Did you mean: recursion" |
| 18:36.13 | nevcairiel | old |
| 18:36.20 | ^RaK^ | heh |
| 18:36.26 | cog|work | nevcairiel: UR MOM! |
| 18:36.28 | cog|work | BURN |
| 18:36.55 | nevcairiel | ERROR #126 (0x8510007e) Memory Never Released |
| 18:37.00 | nevcairiel | i dont think i ever saw that ebfore |
| 18:37.35 | cog|work | nevcairiel: beta? |
| 18:37.38 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 18:38.24 | cog|work | wonder if they have a leak detector for debugging.... |
| 18:38.42 | nevcairiel | sounds like one right there |
| 18:38.52 | cog|work | that's what i mean |
| 18:39.01 | cog|work | 'cause i've never seen it before either |
| 18:39.27 | Cloudwolf | >.> sooo cairenn any updates or are you just as in the blue? |
| 18:39.33 | Cairenn | nothing yet |
| 18:39.37 | Cloudwolf | K |
| 18:39.47 | Cloudwolf | knowing blizzard they say monday they mean 3 months from now |
| 18:39.58 | nevcairiel | there are many more mondays to come |
| 18:42.09 | Cloudwolf | Heh |
| 18:44.35 | Cloudwolf | http://notalwaysright.com/not-the-breast-choice-of-words/4532 |
| 18:44.41 | Cloudwolf | lol... |
| 18:45.22 | Fisker | slaps cog|work around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:45.36 | Fisker | When are they taking away my precious? |
| 18:45.39 | ccox | It's also a software company, so Monday lasts until 23:59:59... |
| 18:45.53 | mikma | i'd so love to see the reasons behind all the restarts of servers |
| 18:45.53 | cog|work | hits fisker over the head with a cast iron skillet, takes the trout, and fries up some noms |
| 18:46.40 | Fisker | slaps cog|work around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:46.54 | Fisker | my trout is eternal |
| 18:47.02 | cog|work | experiences déjà vu |
| 18:48.20 | Fisker | so cog|work |
| 18:48.22 | Fisker | you must know |
| 18:48.28 | Fisker | when they'll take away my precious |
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| 18:49.17 | cog|work | hipeppeppy |
| 18:49.23 | Lopeppeppy | oh hi |
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| 18:50.03 | cadabra | is anyone aware of some differences btwn the function GetRaidRosterInfo when its called for yourself, or the party leader? im having some very unexplainable problems with it. |
| 18:51.03 | cadabra | so, from a debug perspective.. can anyone tell me how to print something on the event that a table gets updated? |
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| 18:51.51 | cadabra | im getting a ghost value on my table that is improperly valid for the function thats calling it. |
| 18:52.00 | Cloudwolf | Cadabra you would need to eather run continual checks and look for differences in 2 tables |
| 18:52.03 | Cloudwolf | old and new |
| 18:52.13 | cadabra | cloud.. how do you mean? |
| 18:52.14 | Cloudwolf | or you would register an event that fires when a player joins |
| 18:52.15 | alestane | Surest way to do it is to make a proxy for the table. |
| 18:53.01 | Mirrormn | metatables whee |
| 18:53.18 | Cloudwolf | "PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED" |
| 18:53.30 | Cloudwolf | not sure if that fires during a raid tho |
| 18:53.32 | Dewin | Hmm. The WoWI beta give away makes me want to try to ressurect and finish an old unreleased addon of mine -- not for the beta key (I'm in it already), but just because. |
| 18:53.36 | Mirrormn | I think "RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE" is probably a better choice |
| 18:53.42 | cadabra | hmm. so ive got a loop running to assign to a table the name for the current raid unit with table index working as the raid slot. |
| 18:53.50 | Cloudwolf | I was lookin for a raid info mirromn ic oudln't find it :D |
| 18:53.51 | cadabra | well, those are actually not ideal. they fire too often |
| 18:54.02 | cadabra | they fire on events other than joins/leavees |
| 18:54.28 | Cloudwolf | you could run a check |
| 18:54.33 | Cloudwolf | and see if the Number of raid members is larger |
| 18:54.35 | Cloudwolf | or smaller |
| 18:54.36 | Mirrormn | as far as I know, "RAID_ROSTER_UPDATE" fires whenever someone in the raid would return a different value for "GetRaidRosterInfo" |
| 18:54.39 | Cloudwolf | if so then it was a leave/join |
| 18:54.45 | Mirrormn | seems like you would want to coordinate |
| 18:54.52 | Fisker | slaps cog|work around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:54.57 | Cide | methinks cadabra was here before under a different nick |
| 18:55.00 | Cide | confirm/deny |
| 18:55.02 | cadabra | i have functions for them to call to this function and reset the layout, but it causes errors when im resorting the ACTUAL raid grps to the way i have mine. when i make my first move in the loop, my values all get reset |
| 18:55.10 | cadabra | abre - cadabra |
| 18:55.18 | cadabra | cide... please. |
| 18:55.24 | Cide | confirmed |
| 18:55.49 | cadabra | i dont think what im dealing with is covered in the ref manual. |
| 18:56.25 | Cloudwolf | cadabra i suggest you bookmark this page http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_%28API%29 |
| 18:56.27 | cadabra | the odd thing about all of this is.. ive got a print next to the only place that adds to the table. |
| 18:56.36 | cadabra | cloud, i have all of that on lockdown. |
| 18:56.38 | cog|work | Command line Russian roulette: [ $[ $RANDOM % 6 ] == 0 ] && rm -rf / || echo *Click* |
| 18:56.41 | cadabra | this is aunique problem. |
| 18:56.51 | cadabra | and perhaps why this sort of addon doesnt exist. |
| 18:57.39 | Mirrormn | I'm betting that it's not a unique problem, and that sort of addon does exist |
| 18:58.02 | Fisker | slaps cog|work around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:58.06 | Fisker | WHEN |
| 18:58.17 | cadabra | so even though i have a print next to the only line of code that can add to the table... when i print out my table.. there is a value on it that was not added by my function. a valid value. |
| 18:58.19 | Mirrormn | where the hell are you getting all these trout |
| 18:58.26 | Mirrormn | your room must smell like a fish market |
| 18:58.31 | cadabra | he mirror, whats the name of the addon that does what im trying to do? |
| 18:58.45 | Mirrormn | I dunno what your addon does |
| 18:59.00 | Mirrormn | but usually, if it's possible, and useful, someone's done it already |
| 18:59.08 | cadabra | then why do you say this sort of addon exists.. |
| 18:59.18 | Fisker | why are you so hostile cog|work ? |
| 18:59.31 | cadabra | it will resort the battleground raid groups as per the way you set them in my addon window. |
| 18:59.39 | cadabra | as one of its functions. |
| 18:59.58 | cadabra | im so close to this part being finished. |
| 19:00.04 | cadabra | but this damn ghost value |
| 19:00.11 | cog|work | steals Fisker's precious |
| 19:00.22 | Cloudwolf | it would help if we knew the ghost value maybe it woudln't lol i dont know |
| 19:00.49 | Cide | <cadabra> so even though i have a print next to the only line of code that can add to the table... when i print out my table.. there is a value on it that was not added by my function. a valid value. |
| 19:00.52 | Cide | that's impossible |
| 19:00.55 | Cide | you're missing something |
| 19:01.09 | Cide | unless a bit was flipped in your computer by the background radiation |
| 19:01.11 | Cide | consistently |
| 19:01.12 | Cloudwolf | arn't all values valid? |
| 19:01.45 | Cloudwolf | cadabra are you using locals or globals? |
| 19:01.56 | cadabra | cide, you have to be right. im losing my mind. i think i need to be aware of when my brain has had it at 6am in the morning and go to bed. |
| 19:02.02 | mikma | is there some sort of "Swimmable" for mounts? :P |
| 19:02.05 | cadabra | im using both. global tables. |
| 19:02.10 | cadabra | in most cases |
| 19:02.24 | Cloudwolf | i would say thats a bad practice |
| 19:02.28 | cadabra | local to my lua but global for its functions. |
| 19:02.33 | Cloudwolf | k |
| 19:02.42 | Cide | that's called an upvalue, not a global |
| 19:02.46 | Cide | fyi |
| 19:02.49 | cadabra | word thx |
| 19:03.02 | Cloudwolf | Because if it were a true global you could have conflict through other addons potentialy using the same global |
| 19:03.05 | cadabra | upvalue = a variable that can be used by all of your functions but not outside them. |
| 19:03.10 | Cide | no |
| 19:03.14 | cadabra | ok? |
| 19:03.15 | Cide | upvalue = local defined in an outer scope |
| 19:03.18 | cadabra | ah |
| 19:03.19 | cadabra | ok |
| 19:03.21 | Cide | outside of the function scope rather |
| 19:03.31 | Cide | above the function definition |
| 19:03.54 | cadabra | last time i pastied you guys jumped my ass about too many globals. i tried to go back and repair that |
| 19:04.42 | Cide | good |
| 19:04.45 | cadabra | the worst part about this is finding people to sit in my raid group for hours while i debug |
| 19:05.11 | NightHawkTheSane | do an AV :P |
| 19:05.13 | Yssaril | cadabra: AV can be your friend :P |
| 19:05.17 | Lunessa | too many globals is not a good thing; let there be locals, and upvalues. |
| 19:05.41 | Cloudwolf | Can any one tell me a case where using a global would even be a good practice? |
| 19:05.45 | NightHawkTheSane | and the Lunessa said 'let there be locals', and there were locals, and it was good? |
| 19:05.48 | Cide | god said, "let there be locals", and there were locals. |
| 19:05.49 | Lunessa | Herodotus, the progammer |
| 19:05.56 | Cide | FUCK YOU NIGHTHAWKTHEINSANE |
| 19:06.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Cide: :D |
| 19:06.13 | Yssaril | Cloudwolf: if you want others to have access to your value/function/table |
| 19:06.22 | Cloudwolf | Thats what i was thinking |
| 19:06.24 | Lunessa | At least I'm not Iriel, "Understand garbage collection." |
| 19:06.27 | foxlit | Cloudwolf: if FrameXML used more locals, things would be worse. |
| 19:06.57 | Cloudwolf | unless you want to create something like ace or addons that can add to your addon or use its info you don't want globals heh |
| 19:07.13 | NightHawkTheSane | so, not to change topics, but can anyone recommend some good earbud-style headphones that are reasonably priced? (<$100) |
| 19:07.15 | cadabra | im using a global |
| 19:07.23 | foxlit | At the same time, there's no inherent problem. |
| 19:07.24 | cadabra | for a specific reason |
| 19:07.29 | cadabra | cloud tell me if its dumb |
| 19:07.51 | Lunessa | Globals run the risk of collision. |
| 19:08.14 | dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: Earbuds tend to always be cheaper than $100. Get something made by Sony or Maxell or something and you'll be fine |
| 19:08.25 | Cloudwolf | Lunessa thats why i was wondering if the ghost value might have been addon conflicts |
| 19:08.27 | dagmar | Obviously, DO NOT BUY LABTEC. |
| 19:08.43 | Cloudwolf | because unless you name the global something COMPLETELY unique to your addon it might cause issues |
| 19:08.55 | cadabra | ive got two separate tocs for this addon. there is the leader part and the slave part. my guild will d/l the slave, which will be mostly silent. my leaders will dl the leader and the slave. the slave reacts to the leader in the case that both addons are running, adding a couple more things to the available features. |
| 19:08.55 | Mirrormn | NightHawkTheSane: if your ears can take it, get the in-ear-canal noise-cancelling type |
| 19:09.05 | Mirrormn | their sound quality tends to be amazing |
| 19:09.15 | Lunessa | cadabra: The reason we bitch at people to use locals, is some fucker ALWAYS names his variable 't' and next thing you know, NOTHING fucking works. |
| 19:09.20 | cadabra | haha |
| 19:09.21 | cadabra | right |
| 19:09.22 | Cide | can your [ear]hole take it, NightHawkTheSane? |
| 19:09.24 | cadabra | that sounds horrable |
| 19:09.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Mirrormn: that's what i was meaning, actually. my mistake |
| 19:09.30 | cadabra | turrible |
| 19:09.53 | Mirrormn | well, I had some Shure e2c earbuds a couple years ago |
| 19:10.00 | cadabra | so furthermore, if you use locals always, you have no risk of reaching out for that "t" right? |
| 19:10.02 | Mirrormn | they were cheap and sounded great |
| 19:10.06 | Cloudwolf | Cadabra i'm not sure if thats ad umb way to do it i havn't tried it |
| 19:10.12 | Mirrormn | but they kind of hurt my ears |
| 19:10.13 | Cloudwolf | but couldn't you just send addon messages |
| 19:10.16 | Lopeppeppy | feeds Lunessa some rice cakes. Yum! |
| 19:10.19 | Cloudwolf | and have everyone have a master and slave version |
| 19:10.19 | cadabra | well cloud, ill let you know how it goes |
| 19:10.28 | Cloudwolf | but only allow the master options to kick in if your actualy the group leader |
| 19:10.35 | Cloudwolf | you can check if your the raid leader/party leader |
| 19:10.42 | cadabra | right, but that can be accomplished without a slave |
| 19:10.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: why torture the poor boy? :P |
| 19:11.05 | alestane | Because someone has to eat the damn things. |
| 19:11.17 | Cloudwolf | And wouldn't that be best? because your way makes conflict if multiple people ahve the master |
| 19:11.17 | NightHawkTheSane | ... touche, good sir. |
| 19:11.20 | Lopeppeppy | And I lurv Lunessa enough to share! |
| 19:11.24 | cadabra | im doing it in 2 parts so my guild non leaders dont have to download all of it and have all of these loops running in the backgournd and all of that |
| 19:11.40 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: that's a definition of love that i'm not familiar with. ;) |
| 19:11.45 | cadabra | not really, right? its not communicating across people.. just your own client |
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| 19:11.55 | Mirrormn | what, rice cakes are delicious |
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| 19:12.25 | Cloudwolf | Cadabra i'm just curious how this will be beneficial tomore than just your guild |
| 19:12.38 | Cloudwolf | as dealing with master and slave you have to co-ordiante |
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| 19:12.47 | Lopeppeppy | NHTS, just one more pleasure of the Peppy-brain. |
| 19:12.52 | Cloudwolf | instead of allowing random people to pick the addon up and use it but i'm not sure |
| 19:13.06 | cadabra | mirror, maybe im still off on this. there are no variables that reach across people.. so theres no conflict possible, aside from with other addons you run |
| 19:13.20 | Cloudwolf | I guess i don't fully understand why theres a slave to begin with |
| 19:13.22 | cadabra | cloud - its very applicable.. especially with rated bgs. |
| 19:13.30 | cadabra | its very user friendly |
| 19:13.46 | cadabra | i created my raid window to look just like blizz and react the same way.. but i wrote mine in lua. |
| 19:14.16 | Cloudwolf | So can you explain tome why you have a slave toc to begin with and how that helps? |
| 19:14.25 | cadabra | you set your raid.. get your groups worked out. qq for bg. get inside, get lead auto if slave user has lead.. pst pug for it auto if not. get lead, hit button, set groups how you had them in your etup |
| 19:14.28 | cadabra | setup* |
| 19:14.57 | Mirrormn | what I'm wondering is |
| 19:15.08 | Mirrormn | why is this better than just moving people into different groups? |
| 19:15.10 | Cloudwolf | But the addon's wont communicate with out messages |
| 19:15.13 | cadabra | cloud -= i need the leader to have both up, for him to have full funcitonality. i dont want the guildies that arent leaders to have all of it running.. just because its inconsiderate of me. |
| 19:15.22 | cadabra | cloud |
| 19:15.29 | cadabra | they are communicating via custom chat |
| 19:15.33 | cadabra | thats all worked out |
| 19:15.36 | Cloudwolf | k. |
| 19:15.36 | cadabra | perfectly |
| 19:16.08 | cadabra | dynamic chat channel name creation for very low risk of an overlap and coded msgs per leader in case they actually do |
| 19:16.45 | cadabra | its actually pretty cool. and when rated bgs are up, lots more premading will go on |
| 19:17.00 | cadabra | we premade about 15 bgs a night in my guild. this would help us SO much to have this thing running. |
| 19:17.13 | cadabra | just because its a pain in the ass to get lead, re org the grp. blah blah |
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| 19:18.07 | cadabra | oo i found it !~ |
| 19:18.18 | cadabra | now i gotta figure out how to workaround it |
| 19:18.58 | Cloudwolf | so the slave is simply just to hand lead over? |
| 19:20.13 | cadabra | it has other uses.. it will let the leader leave q's for you |
| 19:20.25 | cadabra | it will allow for group leaders to flash RW on ONLY their group |
| 19:20.28 | cadabra | and a few other things |
| 19:20.35 | cadabra | lots of useful things |
| 19:21.01 | Lunessa | has a work full of stupid sheeples today, all with last second emergencies. |
| 19:21.15 | Cloudwolf | k. And how do you plan to prevent conflict for the potentail of 2 people having master's how will the salve know which to give it to (or do you not plan on distributing this out side of your guild?) |
| 19:21.16 | cadabra | i could write it all into one, and do a if raid leader type of deal on all the active looping. |
| 19:21.19 | Lopeppeppy | Ugh, nasty Monday Lunessa. *comfort* |
| 19:21.34 | Nobgul | Use guild list priority |
| 19:21.34 | cadabra | cloud - those are such simple issues |
| 19:21.46 | cadabra | nah nob, im doing who ever starts the raid is lead. period. |
| 19:21.48 | Lunessa | noms rice cakes, they're about 100x better than the plates of stupid being shoveled his way. |
| 19:22.02 | cadabra | if someone else wants lead for the addon, the leader has to allow it. |
| 19:22.21 | Lopeppeppy | I knew they'd be useful for something. Cleanse your palate! |
| 19:22.24 | cadabra | he can stay raid leader, but when you get in the BG the addonleader will be the one getting lead and calling the shots |
| 19:22.27 | mikma | lolo |
| 19:22.39 | Nobgul | lol |
| 19:23.39 | cadabra | btw, i fixed it. it works completely now. i just need to get lead of a big raid to double check what happens if i do a bunch and bunch of moving and resetting and mving and adding people and removing people and all that. gonna set a guild event for it. woot. |
| 19:23.41 | mikma | [Xelnath] broadcasts: I'm resetting the Firelord event. The bug is caused when Ragnaros and Cenarius die simultaneosly. Try to avoid close-calls to prevent it from bugging out for your team. I'll be fixing it for the next patch. Good luck! |
| 19:24.23 | Cloudwolf | lol funny bug |
| 19:24.28 | Cloudwolf | Any one else here do arena? |
| 19:24.34 | Nobgul | Yea |
| 19:24.40 | Nobgul | I do on my shammy |
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| 19:24.59 | Cloudwolf | Ever had a legitimate tie? not like the 40 min time limit like both of the last players alive die simultaniously? |
| 19:25.27 | Cide | did you? |
| 19:25.28 | cadabra | cloud, it also has an optionaldependency of another addon that im working on with a guildie. it tracks ALL combat info in a bg via custom channels. we only send the events we want across them, filter out duplicates and log into tables. its recount for bgs.. but it gets combat log data from fights that you werent in.. |
| 19:25.29 | Nobgul | Once |
| 19:26.08 | Cloudwolf | nobgul its happened to me 2 times for sure there might have been a 3rd lol |
| 19:26.19 | Nobgul | heh |
| 19:26.20 | cadabra | all of this seems pretty new and useful. i dont get why i continually get shit in here. lol. |
| 19:26.44 | Nobgul | 0_o did i miss something cadabra? |
| 19:26.53 | cadabra | lol. actually today has been calm. |
| 19:27.01 | Cloudwolf | cadabra i was just trying to comprehendyour thinking because i don't have the idea you had in my head |
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| 19:27.13 | cadabra | cloud, youre one of the amazing ones in here imo |
| 19:27.28 | Cloudwolf | To bad it seems like your better with coding than i am :D |
| 19:27.33 | cadabra | i enjoy you asking, it clarifies things in my own head |
| 19:27.40 | cadabra | haha. nah. im just creative. |
| 19:27.48 | cadabra | i can get around anything.. i didnt know programming was fun. |
| 19:28.02 | cadabra | im on day 15 |
| 19:28.04 | cadabra | lol |
| 19:28.20 | dagmar | Allow me to suggest that not happen in realtime |
| 19:28.25 | Cide | hear that Cloudwolf? you're amazing |
| 19:28.31 | cadabra | haha |
| 19:28.42 | cadabra | cide, i count on you for solid info and a bad attitude. works for me. |
| 19:28.44 | Cide | you only get shit when you deserve it |
| 19:28.51 | Cide | damn straight |
| 19:28.56 | Seerah | heh :) |
| 19:29.03 | Cide | bad attitude is also only when deserved |
| 19:29.14 | Fisker | slaps Seerah around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:29.16 | Seerah | Cide's not always a meanie ;) |
| 19:29.17 | dagmar | It's somewhat unlikely the RL will want that data in realtime, because getting kerstomped while staring at graphs is unproductive, and it'll add some latency |
| 19:29.25 | cadabra | well, im trying to refer directly to the manual.. and you're right.. it does answer some questions before i bug you |
| 19:29.43 | cadabra | dagmar.. its all of the users getting that data |
| 19:29.44 | Cide | wise choice |
| 19:29.45 | cadabra | not just the RL |
| 19:29.46 | dagmar | cadabra: Wait, you're reading something? |
| 19:29.58 | cadabra | and it doesnt bog you down. |
| 19:30.00 | Seerah | manual? |
| 19:30.02 | cadabra | ive been testing it |
| 19:30.06 | dagmar | cadabra: It will |
| 19:30.08 | Seerah | do you mean WoW Programming? |
| 19:30.10 | Cloudwolf | i assume he means www.lua.org/pil |
| 19:30.14 | cadabra | yeah ^^ |
| 19:30.15 | Seerah | or that, sure |
| 19:30.24 | cadabra | the 5.1 specifically really |
| 19:30.38 | Seerah | though I also highly recommend WoW programming :) |
| 19:30.41 | *** part/#wowuidev mitchnull (~mitchnull@catv3EC944A1.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 19:30.44 | Seerah | ~wowprogramming |
| 19:30.45 | purl | somebody said wowprogramming was World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons - http://is.gd/7A3Jx - a book written by Cladhaire and Gazmik, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 19:30.45 | cadabra | dag.. may i chat private w u? |
| 19:30.55 | Cloudwolf | heh i never did buy that book... |
| 19:31.03 | Lunessa | "There's a reason my even my land-locked, heavily-fortified and magma-filled Dwarf Fortress made the stately whale shark its government's symbol. That reason is pure terror. " Beta forums are the best. |
| 19:31.04 | Seerah | I've got both editions ;) |
| 19:31.04 | cadabra | my buddy has it he loves it |
| 19:31.17 | Cide | I'm in the credits for that book BOOYAH |
| 19:31.17 | NightHawkTheSane | i havn't picked it up either, i keep meaning to, though. |
| 19:31.18 | Seerah | Lunessa: hehe - I liked that comment, too :) |
| 19:31.27 | Cloudwolf | Seerah is it outdated or does it occasionaly updated with new versions? |
| 19:31.29 | dagmar | cadabra: You will all too easily hit a point where people are going to be getting >25messages per event |
| 19:31.35 | Mirrormn | <3 whale shark |
| 19:31.46 | Nobgul | lol |
| 19:31.48 | Seerah | Cloudwolf: it's on the second edition. but website is updated also |
| 19:31.49 | dagmar | ...which is going to function like input x no of members |
| 19:31.50 | NightHawkTheSane | <3 dwarf fortress |
| 19:31.54 | Mirrormn | I think I am in an abusive relationship with Whale Shark though |
| 19:31.55 | Fisker | i'm allergic Seerah |
| 19:32.05 | Seerah | to books? :( |
| 19:32.09 | Cide | to intelligence |
| 19:32.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Seerah: to logic |
| 19:32.13 | Fisker | to lack of Starcraft 2 |
| 19:32.15 | Seerah | hehe |
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| 19:32.31 | Cide | I think I win this round, NightHawkTheSane |
| 19:32.35 | Lunessa | The whales hark insta-gibbed me on my first time in his patrol zone. I was in awe of it's power and majesty. |
| 19:32.44 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* |
| 19:33.16 | Mirrormn | I <3 dwarf fortress too but it seems like dwarf fortress stops being fun once you learn how to play it |
| 19:33.17 | Seerah | I still need to find it |
| 19:33.25 | Seerah | shall we adventure, Lunessa? :) |
| 19:33.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Cide: curse you! |
| 19:33.33 | cog|work | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/234075/what-is-your-best-programmer-joke/235212#235212 |
| 19:33.33 | Cloudwolf | "Sorry but you have died to the whale shark. As you have just been eaten you have no corpse to run to and must respawn at the spirit healer." |
| 19:33.42 | cog|work | Lunessa: ^ |
| 19:33.50 | Lunessa | Seerah: I would happily show you the power and majesty of the Whale Shark. |
| 19:33.57 | Seerah | oh oh! |
| 19:34.04 | Seerah | I found a magnificent place to sacrifice yourself |
| 19:34.06 | Cloudwolf | Dwarf fortress? |
| 19:34.10 | nevcairiel | Cloudwolf: there are other fish that do that too, its awesome :d |
| 19:34.32 | Seerah | The Vortex in Darkshore |
| 19:34.33 | NightHawkTheSane | cog|work: thats awesome |
| 19:35.11 | Cide | it was kinda boring until the punchline |
| 19:35.11 | cog|work | "Damn! Damn! DAMN!!!" |
| 19:35.14 | Cide | and then it got awesome |
| 19:35.33 | Adys | ~ping |
| 19:35.34 | purl | ~pong |
| 19:35.40 | Cide | I think the proper career path needs to be a transition from drug dealer into software developer, then |
| 19:35.49 | ^RaK^ | Dwarf fortress is awesome |
| 19:35.56 | Maldivia | :P |
| 19:35.57 | Cloudwolf | lol barns and noble has the programming guide thats slightly surprising to me |
| 19:36.19 | alestane | Lunessa, http://w00t.chaobell.net/20030815.html |
| 19:36.35 | cog|work | Cloudwolf: why "lol"? it was in the top 1500 books on all of amazon for like 6 months after the first release |
| 19:36.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Cloudwolf: why? i think most major retailers carry it |
| 19:36.57 | Seerah | cog|work: I lol'ed at the comparison between "pimps and hustlers" and "marketing people and venture capitalists" :) |
| 19:36.57 | NightHawkTheSane | i know borders does |
| 19:37.02 | alestane | Also, http://w00t.chaobell.net/20030315.html |
| 19:37.05 | cog|work | :) |
| 19:37.14 | NightHawkTheSane | Seerah: i thout they were synonyms... |
| 19:37.16 | NightHawkTheSane | thought* |
| 19:37.33 | Seerah | hence the 'lol' :D |
| 19:38.22 | Seerah | Cloudwolf: I've gotten both copies on Amazon. Give you a deal and free super saver shipping! |
| 19:39.11 | Cloudwolf | heh |
| 19:39.27 | alestane | Amd. of course, there's always http://w00t.chaobell.net/20030315.html |
| 19:39.57 | NightHawkTheSane | alestane: thats the same thing. |
| 19:40.09 | Fisker | slaps cog|work around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:40.17 | Fisker | I axed you a question |
| 19:40.58 | Cloudwolf | bender! stop lying down and scratching your axe hole and go fight! |
| 19:41.32 | mikma | Unix is user friendly. It's just very particular about who its friends are. |
| 19:42.06 | NightHawkTheSane | I generally prefer "Unix is the answer, but only if you phrase the question very carefully." |
| 19:42.27 | Lunessa | alestane: lulz. |
| 19:43.34 | Lunessa | No, that's a hardware problem. |
| 19:44.04 | *** join/#wowuidev xDD (blizzcon@AStrasbourg-551-1-47-138.w92-148.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 19:44.30 | Lopeppeppy | It's always a hardware problem! :P |
| 19:44.41 | xDD | Hi, I'm having a problem with UninviteUnit being blocked because of tainted.. I thought only protected API functions get blocked? |
| 19:44.49 | xDD | taint* |
| 19:44.58 | cog|work | Fisker: and i stole your precious |
| 19:45.04 | xDD | 2/11 21:33:33.181 An action was blocked because of taint from LazyRaider - UninviteUnit() |
| 19:45.21 | cog|work | !api UninviteUnit |
| 19:45.22 | lua_bot | UninviteUnit: Removes a character from the player's party or raid (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UninviteUnit) |
| 19:45.34 | cog|work | maybe they protected it |
| 19:45.39 | Gnarfoz | you can't even use protected functions |
| 19:45.48 | cog|work | Gnarfoz: not true |
| 19:45.51 | xDD | Well it's not marked as protected on any sites I checked |
| 19:45.51 | Gnarfoz | (you probably mean secure) |
| 19:46.01 | Gnarfoz | cog|work: sure that's true, it's just terminology *shrug* |
| 19:46.13 | cog|work | /run CastSpellByName("Profession") |
| 19:46.27 | cog|work | works fine assuming you use a valid Profession |
| 19:46.31 | *** join/#wowuidev mitchnull (~mitchnull@catv3EC944A1.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 19:46.31 | Gnarfoz | yeah, great, and that works with Holy Light? :\ |
| 19:46.45 | Seerah | If they blocked it, then you would not be able to use UninviteUnit() on its own (hint: use this to debug). If it does still work on its own, then it's possible that something else is causing the issue. |
| 19:47.05 | cog|work | xDD: that's what i mean... it may have been *made* protected since the documentation was created. |
| 19:47.29 | Gnarfoz | checks emails repeatedly |
| 19:47.34 | cog|work | Gnarfoz: my only point was that "you can't even use protected functions" wasn't true. </pedantry> |
| 19:47.36 | xDD | Well, I can still use it in /run |
| 19:47.43 | Cloudwolf | Hmm i should watch something. Futurama movies. Boondocks. Invader zim... invader zim yeah that |
| 19:47.49 | Gnarfoz | cog|work: granted, especially since my comment was pedantry in the first place ;) |
| 19:48.07 | Lunessa | Doom, doom, doom, DOOOOOM |
| 19:48.20 | cog|work | xDD: maybe it only works outside of combat? |
| 19:48.39 | xDD | I wasn't in combat because I was in Dalaran |
| 19:48.46 | xDD | http://pastebin.com/8QEnUd75 this is the code piece where it happens |
| 19:48.57 | Cloudwolf | Lunessa for some reason us techies have similar taste in shows lol |
| 19:49.20 | Lunessa | Actually, I don't like the show. But I do like the Grrr art. |
| 19:49.36 | Mirrormn | 8 spaces per indent O.o |
| 19:49.37 | Cloudwolf | ah lol |
| 19:49.38 | Mirrormn | I use 2 |
| 19:49.42 | Adys | I spoke to Senior Producer Arnar Gylfason on Monday and, to my credit, got him to say Eyjafjallajökull right off the bat. Awesome. |
| 19:50.11 | Cloudwolf | adys i can't even think of how you pronounce that word you just typed |
| 19:50.18 | xDD | Mirrormn: Those were actually tabs |
| 19:50.24 | cog|work | xDD: maybe the detailed taint log would help track it down? |
| 19:51.03 | Cloudwolf | ive watched futurama so many times lol its not funny if i see the first 30 seconds of an episode i could probebly tell you the plot line. |
| 19:51.21 | nevcairiel | it requires a masters in wow coding to understand a detailed taintlog, though =p |
| 19:51.21 | Cloudwolf | *probably... You know, I need to fix my spelling. |
| 19:51.31 | xDD | http://pastebin.com/Kvb6WVzE taint log |
| 19:51.48 | NightHawkTheSane | wtf? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/markets/7895242/Mystery-trader-buys-all-Europes-cocoa.html |
| 19:52.03 | dagmar | NHTS: It's that Wonka guy I'll betcha |
| 19:52.05 | dagmar | He's gone bad |
| 19:52.09 | cadabra | lol |
| 19:52.18 | xDD | 496 is the UninviteUnit line and 43 is even dispatchLazyRaider_EventHandlers[event](self, ...) |
| 19:52.30 | NightHawkTheSane | dagmar: you know, this is so crazy i could believe that. |
| 19:52.36 | Dagmar | Either that or the next-gen iPhone will be made out of chocolate |
| 19:52.43 | Mirrormn | I dunno if it's relevant to your problem but UnitGUID("nameArray[i]") looks like a bug to me |
| 19:52.47 | nevcairiel | at least you could eat it then |
| 19:52.48 | cadabra | hahaha |
| 19:53.02 | Dagmar | ...although if you REALLY want to get people upset, theorize that someone's figured out a way to turn chocolate into fuel. |
| 19:53.04 | Mirrormn | inline 6 |
| 19:53.17 | xDD | Oh, yeah that might be what causes it |
| 19:53.29 | Cloudwolf | Dude i want to call that guy and ask for like 10 pounds >.> |
| 19:53.30 | *** part/#wowuidev mitchnull (~mitchnull@catv3EC944A1.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 19:53.51 | Dagmar | "Listen up America... you can have gas, or you can have Thin Mints. Make a decision." |
| 19:54.03 | Cloudwolf | gas fuck thin mints :D |
| 19:54.05 | Dagmar | Civil War II |
| 19:54.08 | Lopeppeppy | Thin Mints!!! |
| 19:54.10 | Dagmar | Right there. |
| 19:54.12 | Cloudwolf | thin mints never have enough chocolate! |
| 19:54.17 | Cloudwolf | they need MOAR CHOCOLAAAAATE |
| 19:54.19 | Cloudwolf | XD |
| 19:54.38 | cadabra | damn, this thing works perfectly.. im so happy. |
| 19:54.55 | NightHawkTheSane | ... i live in a city, i'll take the thin mints and walk. |
| 19:54.59 | xDD | Nope even when I change that it still blocks UninviteUnit >_> |
| 19:55.13 | Cloudwolf | grats cadabra |
| 19:55.16 | Cide | http://store.steampowered.com/app/630/ btw |
| 19:55.25 | Cide | ^ great game for free |
| 19:55.36 | Cide | not sure if it's been linked |
| 19:55.38 | xDD | http://pastebin.com/KzJwvBMC This is the code now |
| 19:55.57 | nicoli_s | another hour wtf! |
| 19:56.05 | nicoli_s | that game was supposed to be out at lunch time :( |
| 19:56.06 | Cloudwolf | those alians loo like zerg |
| 19:56.17 | cadabra | im going to beg for lead in an AV now |
| 19:56.28 | Cloudwolf | ooo free |
| 19:56.32 | Cloudwolf | new game to play |
| 19:56.41 | Cloudwolf | Cide thank you for the link |
| 19:57.00 | xDD | Any idea what it could be? :s |
| 19:57.23 | *** join/#wowuidev KarlKFI|work (~KarlKFI|w@adcom005v.adcom.uci.edu) |
| 19:57.26 | Cide | nicoli_s, yep |
| 19:57.47 | Cloudwolf | http://notalwaysright.com/mrs-understanding/4483 |
| 19:57.49 | Cloudwolf | LOL |
| 19:57.59 | Cloudwolf | i would hate to have her as a parent but man that would make my day if i lived in retail |
| 19:58.21 | Cloudwolf | *worked |
| 19:58.25 | Cloudwolf | ok my brain is dead today... |
| 19:59.51 | Fisker | I'm pretty damn awesome |
| 19:59.59 | Lopeppeppy | if you do say so yourself. |
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| 20:00.46 | Fisker | Well you seemed to believe me when i said i was invincible |
| 20:01.30 | Cloudwolf | Any suggestions on how to fix a sore neck? |
| 20:01.33 | Lopeppeppy | I'm gullible today. It says so on the tag on my shirt. |
| 20:01.45 | Fisker | have someone break it Cloudwolf |
| 20:01.48 | Lopeppeppy | Cloudwolf, why is it sore? Ice vs. heat depends on that answer. |
| 20:01.49 | Fisker | and don't survive |
| 20:02.17 | Cloudwolf | Muscle spazzed out last night instantly tightened. Then must have tweaked it again sleeping. |
| 20:03.25 | Lopeppeppy | Then the answer *should* be gentle heat, to relax the muscle, if it's still tight. If it's swollen, however, it needs icing. Massage from the shoulders upward, ibuprofen, rest rest rest. |
| 20:03.57 | Fisker | You would make a great nurse |
| 20:04.00 | Fisker | hoho |
| 20:04.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Cloudwolf: my solution to everything is make a cup of hot tea, lie down, and watch something entertaining |
| 20:04.41 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker, you have no idea. *wink wink* |
| 20:04.42 | Cloudwolf | tobad i do not like tea :D |
| 20:05.11 | NightHawkTheSane | well, i guess you could sub hot cider, or hot chocolate |
| 20:05.11 | alestane | He-LLOOOO, gnome! |
| 20:05.25 | Cide | I prever Cider |
| 20:05.26 | NightHawkTheSane | or some other pansy-ass not-tea-beverage |
| 20:05.27 | Cide | prefer too |
| 20:05.53 | cog|work | Lopeppeppy: poidh! |
| 20:06.29 | cog|work | (i think you asploded Fisker) |
| 20:08.13 | Warloco | gah blizzard stop making me wait /cry |
| 20:08.28 | Nobgul | 0_o |
| 20:08.29 | Cloudwolf | lol warloco im wiht ya |
| 20:08.35 | Nobgul | What are you waiting for? |
| 20:08.38 | Cloudwolf | nobgul were in line for beta keys |
| 20:08.46 | Nobgul | Ah sorry to hear. |
| 20:08.46 | Fisker | no wai cog|work |
| 20:08.48 | Cloudwolf | in the next 50 batch i think we both should get one |
| 20:09.11 | Nobgul | The beta is nice. Blizzard crash world, arcane blast crash world =P |
| 20:09.22 | Cloudwolf | lol |
| 20:09.39 | Cloudwolf | mages are overpowered they cause the end of the world AKA cataclysm wiht thier blizzard spells! |
| 20:09.52 | Nobgul | In reality the quest chain's are amazing. |
| 20:10.33 | *** join/#wowuidev Repo (~supybot@repos.curseforge.net) |
| 20:10.37 | Nobgul | Plus who can go wrong with the first quest reward being a staff that has 300 more sp than any weapon that drops in WOTLK =P |
| 20:10.50 | Cloudwolf | lol |
| 20:10.59 | Cloudwolf | see those ilevel 271 items you worekd so hard to get |
| 20:11.02 | Cloudwolf | *smack in the face* not any more |
| 20:11.23 | *** join/#wowuidev spode (spode@213.21.119.83) |
| 20:11.23 | Nobgul | yea. last night in a 5 man a green droped and all the casters needed heeh |
| 20:11.26 | Lopeppeppy | Patchy McPatcherson.... I hate my computer. |
| 20:11.39 | Cloudwolf | Lopeppeppy you too? |
| 20:12.01 | Dagmar | Have they added an achievement for winning with a 1 roll yet? |
| 20:12.03 | Lopeppeppy | Desperately |
| 20:12.13 | Cloudwolf | whats your fps in dalagran? |
| 20:12.16 | Lunessa | comforts Lopeppeppy |
| 20:12.18 | Nobgul | Dagmar not that i have seen. |
| 20:12.24 | Dagmar | Shucks |
| 20:12.35 | alestane | Still not up to date, Peppy? |
| 20:12.36 | Dagmar | I managed that last night in HCoS and felt shame |
| 20:12.37 | Nobgul | about 45 throughout the world and in instances as well. |
| 20:12.53 | Dagmar | I didnt' even notice the 1-roll, I was just embarassed that I actually rolled need on a blue |
| 20:13.00 | Nobgul | lol. |
| 20:13.13 | Dagmar | Like, "whoops, forgot to buy a necklace in my spending spree this weekend" |
| 20:13.35 | Nobgul | It's funny in my core icc 10 we always make fun of the rogue that is a bit undergeared when a green drops everyone yells Oh &%^$%^ a upgrade for you dude. |
| 20:13.42 | Nobgul | i now knowhis pain. |
| 20:13.48 | Dagmar | ICC is embarassing like that |
| 20:13.54 | Cloudwolf | nobgul that not nice D: |
| 20:14.09 | Cloudwolf | I'm an undergeared rogue but i atleast don't have a single green lol |
| 20:14.12 | Dagmar | I used to make jokes when leather would drop, and say that only especially kinky hunters wore leather |
| 20:14.21 | Dagmar | ...then that damn orc dropped some leather pants I couldn't pass up |
| 20:14.37 | robokitty | My shaman had a green ilvl 160-odd chest piece when he got Gone and Made a Mess :< |
| 20:14.51 | Dagmar | [Deep-fried Crow] <-- not so tasty |
| 20:15.00 | robokitty | before they added the ICC buff :> |
| 20:15.16 | Dagmar | I LOVE That buff |
| 20:15.23 | Cloudwolf | heh |
| 20:15.27 | Cloudwolf | that buff makes my dps feel ungodly high |
| 20:15.36 | Cloudwolf | we have a ret pally in my icc 10 man that can hit 11k dps lol |
| 20:15.43 | Dagmar | I didn't get back in there until it was at 15% and was like "WTF is with my DPS?" |
| 20:15.56 | Dagmar | "Someone tell me how the @#$ I'm hitting 8k here?" |
| 20:16.05 | Cloudwolf | So lopeppeppy back to yoru bad computer how bad is it? |
| 20:16.12 | Cloudwolf | is it worse than 13fps in dalaran? |
| 20:16.20 | Niv | I think our fury warrior is breaking 17k dps on some fights? |
| 20:16.31 | Cloudwolf | Niv aoe fights? or boss fights? |
| 20:16.36 | Niv | boss |
| 20:16.40 | Cloudwolf | i think im the third highest dmg/dps on my 10 man run around 9k dps |
| 20:16.43 | alestane | It's not really lag AFAIK, Cloudwolf, her downloader hates her. |
| 20:16.44 | Dagmar | I can't wait to get my warlock in there |
| 20:16.58 | Cloudwolf | Ah. My computer just sucks period lol |
| 20:17.17 | Niv | hrmm, looks like 16.5K on heroic saurfang this week |
| 20:17.23 | Cloudwolf | I have a mage that would love to run icc to bad i don't have dual spec and t9 lol |
| 20:19.14 | Nobgul | Niv What class? |
| 20:19.21 | Niv | fury warrior as I said :P |
| 20:19.26 | Nobgul | Ah i missed it. |
| 20:19.35 | Nobgul | I hit 13k in 10 man on my hunter. |
| 20:19.36 | Niv | parse for this week, nothing special |
| 20:19.37 | Niv | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/5bersu9n5vsgha6n/sum/damageDone/?s=8454&e=8685 |
| 20:19.38 | Cloudwolf | I love having a bear tank or a warrior in my raids |
| 20:19.45 | Cloudwolf | free bleed = easier to keep HFB up |
| 20:19.48 | Dagmar | Cloudwolf: Pound those heroics |
| 20:19.58 | Niv | heh, because mute is hard? :P |
| 20:20.11 | Cloudwolf | but heroics are so booooooooooooooooooriiiiiiiiiiing |
| 20:20.13 | Nobgul | Heroic Icc is at least better then Heroic toc. |
| 20:20.21 | Nobgul | Heroic toc is still the devil. |
| 20:21.04 | Nobgul | Hard to find a pug on my realm that can do toc 10 reg let alone heroic modes =X |
| 20:21.17 | Cloudwolf | your rogue is combat spec then niv? |
| 20:21.32 | Niv | uh, timtom? should be |
| 20:21.35 | Niv | and yes |
| 20:21.36 | Niv | he is |
| 20:22.10 | Niv | that was a bad raid night |
| 20:22.14 | foxlit | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrRhVueuXj0 << amusing. |
| 20:22.16 | Niv | we had to do deathwhisper on normal |
| 20:22.27 | Niv | because people apparently were retards and couldn't avoid ghosts |
| 20:22.31 | foxlit | (season 3 spoilers, though, but you've been living under a rock if you haven't seen that yet) |
| 20:22.43 | Fisker | slaps foxlit around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:22.51 | Niv | foxlit: what is it? |
| 20:22.52 | *** join/#wowuidev Hjalte (~chatzilla@cpe.ge-0-2-0-835.arcnqu2.customer.tele.dk) |
| 20:23.05 | xDD | Why does this not uninvite the unit "party1"? /run fr = CreateFrame("Frame"); fr:RegisterEvent("PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED"); fr:SetScript("OnEvent", function() print("uninviting"); UninviteUnit("party1") end) |
| 20:23.09 | foxlit | John Simm stealing the spotlight. |
| 20:23.16 | xDD | it just prints "uninviting" and then nothing happens |
| 20:23.28 | Niv | foxlit: no idea who that is |
| 20:23.49 | Lopeppeppy | Cloudwolf, I get about that, yeah. but it sucks more at downloading patches. |
| 20:24.21 | foxlit | Niv: get http://www.amazon.co.uk/Doctor-Who-1-4-Complete-DVD/dp/B002KSA41U :) |
| 20:24.31 | Niv | oh, it's doctor who |
| 20:24.35 | Niv | yea, never watched it |
| 20:25.05 | Fisker | i thought the first few series were gone in a fire |
| 20:25.29 | Niv | here you go, he hit 17k on rotface |
| 20:25.30 | Niv | http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/vyd0v6qnk9bycibu/sum/damageDone/?s=1521&e=1762 |
| 20:25.33 | Niv | heh |
| 20:25.36 | Maldivia | xDD: tried print("uninviting " .. UnitName("party1")) -- to see if the unit is actually updated correctyly at the time ? |
| 20:25.37 | foxlit | It's the /new/ series 1 :) |
| 20:25.42 | Fisker | old foxlit |
| 20:25.45 | Fisker | i was trolling |
| 20:26.01 | Cloudwolf | Lopeppeppy right now im annoyed because i just can't build a new computer yet |
| 20:26.07 | Fisker | i'm a jerk :( |
| 20:26.12 | foxlit | Fisker: unfortunate. |
| 20:26.31 | Fisker | think i'll travel into the future |
| 20:26.34 | Fisker | see you tomorrow |
| 20:26.51 | Cloudwolf | lol Cide steam servers are too buisy to download alein swarm and 78 of my friends have already downloaded it lol |
| 20:26.55 | Lopeppeppy | Me either, or I'd brick this bastich. |
| 20:27.03 | xDD | Maldivia: Yes it's actually a valid unit |
| 20:27.12 | xDD | Even if I hardcode the name it doesn't work |
| 20:27.36 | Cloudwolf | Lopeppeppy i have the money i have the ability and i have the want. I do not have the permission lol |
| 20:27.53 | Lopeppeppy | I have permission, send me your money and ability and desire! |
| 20:28.01 | Cloudwolf | :D no thanks |
| 20:28.11 | Lopeppeppy | Bah humbug. |
| 20:28.29 | Cloudwolf | if i didn't have the permission to build one formyself no way i have permission to give you moneh to build you a comp |
| 20:28.43 | Lopeppeppy | Well, probably true. |
| 20:29.22 | Maldivia | xDD: tried with name instead of "party1" |
| 20:29.29 | xDD | Maldivia: Yes I did |
| 20:30.21 | foxlit | So, um, does the unit exist? |
| 20:30.26 | Maldivia | xDD: well, perhaps the client's internal representation of the party isn't finalized yet on PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED, so it doesn't know you can uninvite that player |
| 20:30.32 | foxlit | Or is the update too early? It'd be odd if it's too early. |
| 20:30.57 | foxlit | It might require a hardware event. |
| 20:31.25 | Maldivia | PARTY_MEMBERS_CHANGED is used for a lot of stuff, it's fired for every party member in a group when something changes in the group |
| 20:31.47 | xDD | even if I use another event it doesn't work |
| 20:31.56 | xDD | I tried with CHAT_MSG_WHISPER now |
| 20:32.22 | foxlit | That does very much suggest that you need a hardware event |
| 20:32.32 | foxlit | If you do /run UninviteUnit("party1"), does it work? |
| 20:32.54 | xDD | yep |
| 20:33.34 | foxlit | And if you do /run CreateFrame("Frame"):SetScript("OnUpdate", function() UninviteUnit("party1"); end); it does not |
| 20:34.08 | xDD | indeed, that doesn't |
| 20:34.40 | foxlit | Hardware event it is. Sorry, no automatic removing of party members for you :) |
| 20:34.42 | Cloudwolf | 42% downloaded on alien swarm heh |
| 20:34.54 | xDD | Even though the function isn't protected? |
| 20:35.08 | Maldivia | xDD: might be protected now, since it's what's used for vote kick |
| 20:35.10 | xDD | Also, why does InviteUnit not require a hardware event then? |
| 20:35.23 | *** join/#wowuidev bediko_ (~chatzilla@p4FE350BB.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:35.31 | xDD | Aww |
| 20:35.36 | Maldivia | there's a huge difference in automating invites and kicks |
| 20:35.37 | nevcairiel | there are 2 types of protection; require hardware event, and not-in-combat |
| 20:35.41 | Lopeppeppy | 'cause Santa Claus didn't ask for it to be a hardware event? *gentle shrug* |
| 20:35.47 | foxlit | also not-ever |
| 20:35.47 | nevcairiel | and of course, those combined |
| 20:36.08 | foxlit | and haha-just-kidding-this-isn't-a-real-function |
| 20:36.26 | nevcairiel | not-ever is only spell casting, isnt it? |
| 20:36.29 | xDD | Hmm ok, is there any better solution to checking the character GUID in an achievement link then? |
| 20:36.31 | *** join/#wowuidev SeanK (~SeanK@pool-98-117-120-73.sttlwa.fios.verizon.net) |
| 20:36.39 | Niv | why check it? |
| 20:36.40 | xDD | I was going to just invite the player and kick him instantly if the GUID doesn't match |
| 20:36.42 | Niv | it can be faked |
| 20:36.55 | Niv | underachiever fakes it |
| 20:37.00 | xDD | I know, but then at least they're not linking another player's achievement, but have to go get an addon to fake it :P |
| 20:37.16 | nevcairiel | seems like a stupid feature |
| 20:37.22 | Niv | agreed |
| 20:37.36 | foxlit | Hm. Don't you get GUIDs with chat messages now? |
| 20:37.37 | xDD | Otherwise I guess I'll just have to use SetAchievementComparisonUnit thingie and then that other thing once they are in range |
| 20:37.46 | xDD | do you? :o |
| 20:38.20 | nevcairiel | they added something for class-coloring |
| 20:38.24 | nevcairiel | i forgot what exactly |
| 20:38.24 | xDD | Oh yeah, awesome |
| 20:38.27 | xDD | found it |
| 20:38.50 | xDD | How does that help for class coloring? |
| 20:38.59 | foxlit | xDD: you're not in a dungeon finder group, by any chance? |
| 20:39.00 | nevcairiel | there is also a function to get the class from a guid |
| 20:39.13 | xDD | Ah? Which function would that be |
| 20:39.15 | nevcairiel | !api class |
| 20:39.16 | lua_bot | Found 15 possible matches for 'class'. Please be more specific |
| 20:39.17 | xDD | foxlit: I am not |
| 20:39.18 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 20:39.28 | foxlit | GetPlayerInfoByGUID("guid") |
| 20:39.35 | foxlit | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetPlayerInfoByGUID and stuff |
| 20:39.39 | xDD | But that's only if you've seen the player? |
| 20:39.51 | foxlit | If your client has encountered him. Chat counts, I think. |
| 20:39.58 | xDD | Oh, awesome |
| 20:40.06 | xDD | that fixes all of my problems |
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| 20:43.03 | Cloudwolf | Tip: Do not watch invader zim while eating unless you have a semi strong stomach... so much disgusting renditions of food |
| 20:43.10 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 20:43.12 | nicoli_s | i love that show |
| 20:43.19 | ^RaK^ | aww havnt seen that in ages |
| 20:43.25 | nicoli_s | the creators comic books are great too |
| 20:43.35 | nicoli_s | johny the homicidal maniac is so damn hilarious |
| 20:49.19 | Ackis | I just got invited to the wow beta |
| 20:49.21 | *** join/#wowuidev Jiminizer (~jiminizer@92.40.189.81.sub.mbb.three.co.uk) |
| 20:49.26 | Nobgul | Gratz |
| 20:49.27 | Ackis | or an e-mail saying I was invited |
| 20:49.33 | Ackis | but I'm already in |
| 20:49.35 | Nobgul | Awwww |
| 20:49.39 | Nobgul | hax! |
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| 20:49.51 | nicoli_s | ackis, the emails come way late |
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| 20:49.58 | Ackis | ah |
| 20:49.59 | nicoli_s | i still havent even gotten my acceptance email |
| 20:50.05 | nicoli_s | and i got in weeks ago |
| 20:50.21 | nicoli_s | too bad the damn worgen final quest is broken :S |
| 20:50.34 | foxlit | I've completed every quest in the worgen starting area. |
| 20:50.43 | *** join/#wowuidev Mihau (~asmith@69.73.16.202) |
| 20:50.43 | foxlit | After the latest patch. |
| 20:50.46 | nicoli_s | well atm Battle for gilneas city is broken |
| 20:50.56 | foxlit | They hotbroke it? |
| 20:51.29 | Niv | It's crazy that there are 80 worgens |
| 20:51.39 | Niv | I imagine they had to grind out 5 levels on random mobs in outlands |
| 20:51.44 | nicoli_s | guess so, when i login, sylvanaas is just sitting there, and everyone is just sitting around waitintg for it to work again |
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| 20:53.46 | foxlit | Liam is just sitting there too? |
| 20:53.58 | foxlit | [Actually, Liam vanished on me while doing the carriage chain again recently] |
| 20:54.05 | nicoli_s | yeah foxlit |
| 20:54.10 | nicoli_s | just sitting |
| 20:56.22 | Cide | Cloudwolf, you have too many steam "friends" |
| 20:56.37 | Ackis | Cide: are you my steam friend, or my steamy friend? |
| 20:56.44 | NightHawkTheSane | oh man, these look delicious: http://pizzaisland.wordpress.com/2010/07/19/cake-bombs/ |
| 20:56.45 | Cide | neither |
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| 20:58.29 | Ackis | Cide: can you be one? :D |
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| 21:02.06 | Ackis | http://www.etsy.com/shop/geekbadge some of those are neat, need more choice however |
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| 21:09.03 | Dashkal | http://oddlyspecific.com/2010/07/15/funny-signs-good-to-know/ |
| 21:09.10 | Dashkal | nsfw language |
| 21:10.04 | Ackis | I just gave my gums a papercut :( |
| 21:12.04 | foxlit | http://pastey.net/138714 << caught it |
| 21:12.14 | foxlit | Now it's just a question of where. |
| 21:13.01 | nicoli_s | i love etsy |
| 21:13.05 | nicoli_s | so much cool shit |
| 21:13.20 | Lopeppeppy | ackis, stop eating paper |
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| 21:14.14 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: I was using it to try and clean a tooth |
| 21:14.36 | Lopeppeppy | I will buy you toothpicks for christmas. |
| 21:14.58 | Ackis | hehe |
| 21:25.35 | NightHawkTheSane | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Don't_stuff_beans_up_your_nose |
| 21:25.37 | Warloco | Any more news from blizzard? >.< |
| 21:26.46 | Lopeppeppy | About.... what specifically? |
| 21:27.02 | NightHawkTheSane | i suspect by now they're all drunk on mojitos and/or gin, while on their private yaghts (sp?) |
| 21:27.03 | batbot | NightHawkTheSane, yachts. |
| 21:27.08 | NightHawkTheSane | yachts! |
| 21:27.11 | Warloco | beta keys >.< |
| 21:31.44 | nicoli_s | theres news a comin, but not from blizzard! |
| 21:31.56 | Lunessa | I think the preference of the dev team is gin and vodka. |
| 21:32.12 | Lopeppeppy | Nah, I know one lovely gentleman prefers rum! |
| 21:32.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: well i'm just trying to cover my bases.' |
| 21:32.44 | foxlit | "Choose UBUNTU if: You do not plan to use Microsoft WINDOWS" |
| 21:32.48 | NightHawkTheSane | if i tried to list all alcohols that anyone on blizzard might enjoy, i suspect i'd be here all day. |
| 21:32.50 | foxlit | Awesome, Dell. |
| 21:33.10 | Lunessa | NHTS: Simple. Booze. |
| 21:33.30 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, but booze seemed so uncouth in a sentance with yachts |
| 21:34.12 | Lunessa | booze is never uncouth, it is honest about its desire to see you in the gutter, heaving until your brains fall out. |
| 21:34.26 | NightHawkTheSane | .. I'm /reasonably/ sure that's quite uncouth. |
| 21:34.39 | Lopeppeppy | Nope, quite civilized! |
| 21:35.00 | Lunessa | It comes well packaged, and flavorful. |
| 21:35.06 | Nobgul | lol |
| 21:36.29 | Lunessa | Ahhh... summer... http://w00t.chaobell.net/20030516.html |
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| 21:37.17 | Nobgul | lol |
| 21:38.09 | Nobgul | Lunessa thats great |
| 21:39.48 | Nobgul | http://w00t.chaobell.net/20030519.html <---- reminds me of when I worked at mcdonalds =P |
| 21:41.33 | alestane | You haven't gotten to the best one about weather, Lunessa. |
| 21:41.56 | Lunessa | I have lots more to get through... 7 years worth. |
| 21:42.45 | alestane | Sadly, it doesn't go on that long. |
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| 21:45.13 | alestane | This one: http://w00t.chaobell.net/20040630.html |
| 21:45.45 | Nobgul | hehe |
| 21:45.58 | cog|work | indeed |
| 21:46.08 | Lopeppeppy | Nah, that's up my way lately! :) |
| 21:48.26 | Torhal | Cairenn|afk: http://www.nobodylikesonions.com/forums/images/smilies/nlo/spanking.gif |
| 21:48.59 | Nobgul | lul |
| 21:49.39 | Arrowmaster | shouldnt it be dolby you are pointing that out to |
| 21:49.40 | Lopeppeppy | woo hooo! |
| 21:49.53 | Arrowmaster | so he can add it to wowi's forums |
| 21:50.15 | Nobgul | i think that one will get overused =P |
| 21:50.25 | Lopeppeppy | There's no such thing. *weg* |
| 21:50.38 | Nobgul | =) |
| 21:50.48 | Nobgul | http://w00t.chaobell.net/20040702.html <------ lul |
| 21:50.51 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: I suppose, but she's the one who uses them all the time :) |
| 21:54.25 | Fisker | cog|work |
| 21:54.34 | Fisker | why haven't Blizzard taken away my precious yet? |
| 21:55.00 | cog|work | examines himself to make sure he didn't suddenly turn into Blizzard |
| 21:55.09 | cog|work | Nope... still a pink hairless monkey |
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| 21:55.14 | cog|work | (well mostly hairless) |
| 21:55.58 | Lopeppeppy | .... *snark* |
| 21:56.01 | Fisker | slaps cog|work around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:56.19 | Lopeppeppy | I believe, according to the drinking game rules, everyone must now drink, because Cog made me snark. |
| 21:56.19 | Fisker | 1 week |
| 21:56.50 | cog|work | Fisker: SC2 beta = your precious? |
| 21:57.06 | cog|work | accrues a drink |
| 21:57.17 | cog|work | will realize said drink in a couple hours |
| 21:57.34 | Fisker | duh cog|work |
| 21:58.32 | Fisker | goodnight tiems |
| 22:05.43 | kd3 | blah. steam's too busy |
| 22:06.34 | Lopeppeppy | so I hear, a free game today |
| 22:07.17 | nicoli_s | yep |
| 22:07.23 | nicoli_s | just downloaded it, gonna try it out in a sec |
| 22:10.23 | kd3 | grr... damn it, atlanta servers. let me downlooooooad~ |
| 22:11.16 | foxlit | Hm http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logicomix-Search-Truth-Apostolos-Doxiadis/dp/0747597200 |
| 22:13.48 | Mirrormn | "Apostolos Doxiadis", now that's a name |
| 22:14.38 | Lunessa | *sigh* last set of patches for XP, and they're taking forever to install. |
| 22:14.38 | foxlit | I'm sure I've seen the book's name somewhere before |
| 22:16.23 | A-KO | time to drop XP |
| 22:16.25 | A-KO | the 9 year old OS |
| 22:16.31 | A-KO | October 26th, 2001--I went to the launch.... |
| 22:16.50 | Lunessa | A-KO: I need it for running some tools that are incompatible with Windows 7. |
| 22:17.00 | A-KO | so get win7 pro and run XP mode |
| 22:17.06 | A-KO | :P |
| 22:17.11 | Ressy | Dual Boot. |
| 22:17.42 | cog|work | seconds XP mode |
| 22:17.51 | A-KO | XP is so horribly bass ackwards now |
| 22:17.57 | A-KO | that it's a travesty to even consider running it |
| 22:17.59 | |Jelly| | Not every processor will run it though. (Got quite a ration of shit because of that) |
| 22:18.05 | A-KO | |Jelly|: incorrect |
| 22:18.09 | A-KO | MS took away the VT requirement :P |
| 22:18.27 | |Jelly| | As of 3 weeks ago, a customer's processor wouldn't run XP Mode. |
| 22:18.33 | A-KO | interesting |
| 22:18.38 | A-KO | pretty sure they took away the vt-x reqs for it |
| 22:18.59 | Lunessa | AK-O: My work CPU can't support XPMode. So I use a VM. And I'm patching it. |
| 22:19.06 | A-KO | http://www.vmlite.com/index.php/forums/9-vmlite-xp-mode/1737-microsoft-offically-removes-the-requirement-of-vt-x-to-run-xp-mode |
| 22:19.13 | A-KO | pretty sure they removed it |
| 22:19.16 | A-KO | so every CPU can run XP mode |
| 22:19.17 | |Jelly| | Perhaps there was a patch that he didn't install (Windows Update?) or something; I didn't touch the machine myself. All I know is it didn't work and he was pissed. |
| 22:19.20 | cog|work | XP Mode *is* a vm. it's just Windows XP running under Virtual PC |
| 22:19.23 | Dagmar | ...and so the journey of a thousand reboots begins anew. |
| 22:19.25 | A-KO | yeah Lunessa |
| 22:19.28 | A-KO | it's just a VM |
| 22:19.49 | A-KO | but the slick thing is that it runs it behind the scenes--you can install apps to the VM, which then puts icons on your host OS--and you run the app, "in a VM", but you never see the VM |
| 22:20.01 | A-KO | so it makes a bit more native feel to the whole thing |
| 22:20.21 | |Jelly| | In any case, I just popped in here to see if the keys were dropped yet. So back to the puppies. :) |
| 22:20.27 | cog|work | sucky thing is it does all the rendering over a 16 bit per pixel remote desktop protocol |
| 22:20.49 | cog|work | (unless they fixed that) |
| 22:21.52 | Lunessa | A-KO: This is something I hadn't seen. Nice to know. Thanks. |
| 22:22.21 | A-KO | depends on the app actually though :P I got Firefox to do it, but tools and utilities that don't *install* won't do that... |
| 22:22.27 | cog|work | it's still a full XP system that you have to keep updated though... |
| 22:22.34 | A-KO | yeah, it is |
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| 22:22.51 | A-KO | nonetheless, I would imagine a vast majority of the people getting their WoW accounts hacked are running XP |
| 22:22.56 | A-KO | malware is getting pretty ruthless these days |
| 22:23.03 | A-KO | surfing with XP is a recipe for danger |
| 22:23.06 | A-KO | no matter what browser you use |
| 22:23.19 | cog|work | Vista and 7 have each saved me once from a malicious website |
| 22:23.26 | A-KO | 7 saved me recently |
| 22:23.38 | A-KO | MSE detected 3 trojans in the LocalLow/Temp folder :P |
| 22:23.54 | A-KO | all of which were thrown there because of Chrome/IE's voluntary lowered priority process stuff |
| 22:24.06 | A-KO | they pretty much were jailed from doing anything on my system |
| 22:24.51 | Nobgul | <----- Uses *nix i run everything including wow with wine. |
| 22:25.23 | Nobgul | If i must use windows for something i have a vmware machine that has vista on it. |
| 22:25.23 | cog|work | you even run *nix with wine? that's impressive |
| 22:25.25 | A-KO | eh, not to get into that war, but there are limitations even with that :P |
| 22:25.26 | cog|work | ;) |
| 22:25.37 | Nobgul | I havent found any =P |
| 22:26.06 | Nobgul | cog|work I run wow with beer all the time =) |
| 22:26.31 | cog|work | mmm beer... First peppy, now you... I wanna go home :( |
| 22:26.35 | A-KO | "would you like to install this perfectly-harmless-i-swear-application?" *YES!* "sudo ./make install" :P |
| 22:27.00 | Nobgul | Lol sorry. |
| 22:27.20 | Nobgul | I picked up some 60 proof green apple vodka earlier. Looks promising. |
| 22:27.49 | Lunessa | 60 proof? And it calls itself vodka? |
| 22:27.56 | cog|work | I've been relegated to "cheapest without being awful" liquor :( |
| 22:28.15 | cog|work | wtb $ |
| 22:28.22 | Nobgul | Well seeing as the beer here most other countries consider piss water. |
| 22:28.45 | Nobgul | Aparently american beer is not beer. Well acording to my friends in other countires anyway. |
| 22:28.54 | Lunessa | Beer in America is like making love in a canoe. |
| 22:29.03 | Nobgul | lol |
| 22:29.20 | Lopeppeppy | you rock a lot, but not in a satisfactory way |
| 22:29.22 | A-KO | that sounds like that could be fun though |
| 22:29.44 | cog|work | it'll get you wet one way or another... |
| 22:29.48 | A-KO | lol |
| 22:29.58 | Lunessa | "It's fucking close to water." |
| 22:30.10 | cog|work | ~rimshot |
| 22:30.11 | purl | badum-TISH! |
| 22:30.35 | A-KO | damnit, my coworker needs to hurry up and get home so we can play some LoL |
| 22:30.36 | Nobgul | 0-O |
| 22:30.46 | cog|work | The fact that Coors has a Light version is incredibly frustrating to anyone with even a passing respect for beer |
| 22:30.59 | Nobgul | lol |
| 22:31.12 | Dagmar | You've not tried Rolling Rock then |
| 22:31.12 | Nobgul | the whole light thing makes me laugh |
| 22:31.41 | cog|work | I used to work at a Circle K... People would come in every day to get 30-packs of Coors Light |
| 22:31.44 | cog|work | including my boss |
| 22:32.09 | Dagmar | Ask 'em if they've tried O'Doul's |
| 22:32.13 | Nobgul | Circle k is a down south chain if i am not mistaken. |
| 22:32.14 | Torhal | Haha |
| 22:32.17 | Lunessa | 30-packs... that's like saying "I need to water my lawn with slightly yeasty water." |
| 22:32.18 | Nobgul | LOL Dagmar |
| 22:32.22 | cog|work | Nobgul: it's nationwide |
| 22:32.27 | cog|work | i'm in SF bay area |
| 22:32.28 | Nobgul | lol Lunessa |
| 22:32.36 | Torhal | Dagmar: The registers at Walmart don't even flag O'Doul's as requiring an ID check. |
| 22:32.46 | cog|work | Torhal: i bet that depends on the state |
| 22:32.53 | Lunessa | Circle K was southwest and most of the west coast. |
| 22:32.54 | Dagmar | That's because if there's alcohol in it, you'd need a spectrographic analysis to tell. |
| 22:33.16 | kd3 | woot! got the download to go through, finally |
| 22:33.16 | cog|work | Costco tried to card me for buying non-alcoholic margarita mix |
| 22:33.22 | alestane | We have a Circle-K in New Hampshire. |
| 22:33.23 | Dagmar | It's practically homeopathic beer. |
| 22:33.34 | cog|work | because it was listed in the "alcohol" department |
| 22:33.38 | cog|work | Dagmar: lulz |
| 22:33.44 | cog|work | did you see the periodic table earlier? |
| 22:33.53 | Dagmar | Umm, no |
| 22:33.57 | cog|work | http://crispian-jago.blogspot.com/2010/07/periodic-table-of-irrational-nonsense.html |
| 22:34.36 | xDD | Why do curseforge.com files take so much longer to get verified than on wowinterface? |
| 22:34.50 | nicoli_s | xDD:they are run by diff people |
| 22:34.58 | nicoli_s | and our mods on curseforge might just be being slow |
| 22:35.05 | Dagmar | Bunyips? |
| 22:35.08 | Dagmar | heh |
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| 22:36.03 | Lopeppeppy | the mods of one site might be at work or something... you know, Real Life. |
| 22:36.09 | Torhal | xDD: We've been overrun with stuff since the beta key announcement, and I've been really busy |
| 22:36.26 | xDD | Torhal: Hehe ok |
| 22:36.43 | Torhal | xDD: What's the project? |
| 22:37.41 | xDD | Torhal: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/lazy-raider/ But I've just updated the file, I was asking because the previous 2 files I uploaded took a while |
| 22:38.07 | Torhal | If you want to avoid that, use version control. |
| 22:38.08 | Dagmar | http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/83940/ <-- LOOOVE THIS |
| 22:38.18 | Torhal | But it's basically Ackis and myself doing the approvals. |
| 22:38.32 | Lopeppeppy | Ooof, wicked downtime tomorrow for server upgrades! http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?sid=1&topicId=26137156031 |
| 22:38.40 | xDD | Ok I will look into using your version control system next time then |
| 22:38.43 | Torhal | So when we get swamped, have to sleep, work, or anything else that doesn't involve sitting in front of a computer...:D |
| 22:39.10 | Nobgul | ugh Lopeppeppy |
| 22:39.21 | Dagmar | I hear they're adding code to let your RealID friends spy on you through your webcam |
| 22:39.22 | Lopeppeppy | Very ugh. But probably very necessary |
| 22:39.24 | Dagmar | :) |
| 22:39.34 | Nobgul | Nvm my server isn't listed =P |
| 22:40.13 | Dewin | Lopeppeppy: We had that happen to our realm not too long ago. When it was finished, it had moved from Dallas to Chicago. |
| 22:40.22 | Nobgul | Does the beta go down at the same time as live? |
| 22:40.27 | alestane | Yeah, Thrall's something like a fourth-generation server. |
| 22:40.35 | alestane | Usually not, Nobgul. |
| 22:40.52 | Nobgul | Atleast i have that to play with while dreanor is down/ |
| 22:40.56 | Nobgul | thank you alestane |
| 22:41.50 | Nobgul | I still haven't finished all the vashj'ir quests =X |
| 22:42.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: woo, none of my realms! |
| 22:42.26 | Lopeppeppy | I do my best to please, NHTS |
| 22:42.30 | Nobgul | hehe |
| 22:42.57 | NightHawkTheSane | not that i mind that much, living in PST means the maintenence hits when i'm asleep/at work. ;) |
| 22:43.28 | Nobgul | The main. always hits when i get off work and wanna enjoy beer and trollin. |
| 22:44.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Nobgul: the solution is to live in the One True Time Zone. |
| 22:45.57 | foxlit | VAT: £37.54 << curse you, taxes on books. |
| 22:47.49 | Nobgul | NightHawkTheSane: The other solution is to fire the day guy and work the night shift =P |
| 22:48.09 | Ressy | I wonder if the servers going down tomorrow are moving to a new datacentre as well. |
| 22:48.10 | cog|work | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=26137536099&sid=1 <-- how did he construct the #showtooltip commands without realizing /cast works the same way? O.o |
| 22:48.19 | NightHawkTheSane | Nobgul: well i suppose that works too :P |
| 22:48.22 | cog|work | just found out his wow account is expired... |
| 22:48.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Ressy: why would you think that? |
| 22:48.53 | Nobgul | cog|work Call blizzard up. Tell them. Do you not knwo who I am. I am sure they will work it out for you. |
| 22:49.07 | Ressy | Cuz they stated they're doing maintenance for cataclysm. Dallas moved to Chicago for no reason during its 24 hr maintenance. |
| 22:49.17 | cog|work | Nobgul: if i did that they'd laugh in my face... |
| 22:49.33 | cog|work | or weren't you around for the addon policy fiasco? |
| 22:49.35 | cog|work | :P |
| 22:49.47 | Lunessa | cog|work: Seriously? It's an epidemic in our guild... |
| 22:49.58 | Warloco | anyone said anything about the beta keys? |
| 22:50.16 | Shadowed | I still blame cog|work for /script being disabled |
| 22:50.21 | Shadowed | glares |
| 22:50.31 | cog|work | i am both amused and annoyed |
| 22:50.33 | cog|work | :P |
| 22:50.38 | Dagmar | They should be getting ready to start blowing some stuff up |
| 22:50.42 | Torhal | Damn. I didn't realize it was possible to point with -eyeballs- |
| 22:51.03 | Warloco | o_o |
| 22:51.14 | cog|work | Lunessa: apparently it was over 2 weeks ago -_- |
| 22:51.24 | Nobgul | cog|work: about 3 months ago I forgot to pay for my account. I called blizzard and told them i wanted to close my account becuase i was no longer happy with the game. they gave me 2 months free time to give it a chance. |
| 22:51.36 | Lunessa | understands why there's never anyone online... |
| 22:51.37 | Niv | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:52.45 | foxlit | Thank cog|work over there for it :) |
| 22:53.25 | xDD | Are you guys all on beta or what are you talking about? :o |
| 22:53.27 | cog|work | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25626576491&sid=2000&pageNo=1#10 |
| 22:53.29 | NightHawkTheSane | cog|work: can you call up blizzard and try what Nobgul did, and record the call for our lulz? :) |
| 22:53.35 | kd3 | lots of us are? |
| 22:53.50 | kd3 | grrs at the lack of /run for quest-documentation purposes |
| 22:53.58 | Lunessa | A fairly significant number of us anyway |
| 22:54.11 | Niv | more or less any author that wants to be, is in beta |
| 22:54.13 | Lunessa | kd3: I took to making LOTS of screen shots. |
| 22:54.29 | kd3 | meh, I've got plenty documented. I just want IDs |
| 22:54.30 | NightHawkTheSane | screen shots don't parse nearly as easily i suspect |
| 22:54.36 | kd3 | www.wowwiki.com/Deepholm_quests |
| 22:54.49 | NightHawkTheSane | needs to actually start playing beta. :( |
| 22:54.51 | xDD | Hehe, well I started writing my addon after the date all the beta key giveaways were announced so I'm not even eligible for a key ;) |
| 22:54.53 | NightHawkTheSane | has not had any time lately. |
| 22:54.54 | foxlit | My policy is that if it isn't live, or about to become live, it isn't worth documenting. |
| 22:54.58 | Niv | I've got a million XP to go to 83 |
| 22:55.22 | Niv | I thought deepholm was more done than it is |
| 22:55.28 | Niv | all these PH quests |
| 22:55.40 | kd3 | it's only in the third phase |
| 22:55.43 | foxlit | Also refuse to progress past obviously unfinished/botched content, so worgen is staying next to the teleport boat and druid is stuck waiting for Cenarius. |
| 22:56.25 | Shadowed | xDD: PM dolby on WoWI, we do make exceptions for giving out keys to people who registered after the giveaway |
| 22:56.49 | Lunessa | foxlit: My warlock is unable to spec for more than 19 points... so I'm having a hard time finishing quests in Hyjal on him. |
| 22:57.15 | foxlit | Hyjal seems more fun than that underwater stuff. |
| 22:57.16 | kd3 | you try detalenting? that's what it took for me to get full access to my trees |
| 22:57.31 | xDD | Shadowed: Ah cool I'll try that. |
| 22:57.33 | kd3 | meh, I like vashj'ir more than hyjal. much more graphically interesting |
| 22:57.41 | NeoTron | I found Hyjal to be more of "just another zone" than Vashj'ir |
| 22:57.41 | foxlit | Meep! |
| 22:57.43 | Lunessa | fox, hyjal doesn't make my video card try to leap out of the case and murder me |
| 22:58.02 | foxlit | Vashj'ir has its annoyances. |
| 22:58.18 | NeoTron | Lunessa: I basically am not doing any beta right now since I can't properly talent my warlock |
| 22:58.19 | foxlit | My depth perception suffers in a fully 3D space. |
| 22:58.19 | Shadowed | You'll still have to wait for us to get a new batch of keys either way thought |
| 22:58.29 | Niv | Lunessa: I had that problem with a couple classes, but just doing it 2-3 times would eventually get it talented (and make sure you train spells) |
| 22:58.32 | foxlit | The sharks clip through everything like crazy |
| 22:58.37 | NeoTron | foxlit: I didn't notice as much issues as I expected |
| 22:58.50 | NeoTron | foxlit: based on the underwater zone in Champions Online |
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| 22:59.01 | Mirrormn | I found Hyjal slightly disspointing, really |
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| 22:59.07 | Mirrormn | Vashj'ir was a far better zone |
| 22:59.10 | Niv | melee pvp in vashjir == sucks ass |
| 22:59.11 | Lunessa | Actually, I really like the vash'jir stories. good stuff there. REALLY good stuff. |
| 22:59.11 | foxlit | Also, the hubs are disappointing |
| 22:59.22 | xDD | Shadowed: This is my addon by the way, do you think it's eligible? http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info17337-LazyRaider.html |
| 22:59.23 | band-aid | is there a way to delete a frame? |
| 22:59.26 | NeoTron | Niv: Melee in general in a 3d world might suck |
| 22:59.28 | Shadowed | should be |
| 22:59.35 | NeoTron | warlock doesn't suffer from that aspect |
| 22:59.35 | Niv | vashjir is a cool zone though |
| 22:59.38 | Niv | I really enjoyed it |
| 22:59.41 | foxlit | The introduction is really weak. Hyjal has you escorting Fandral in no time :) |
| 22:59.42 | NeoTron | distances are really hard |
| 22:59.53 | foxlit | Vash'jir has you... oh... dunno. Something about naga. |
| 23:00.01 | Mirrormn | I liked the overall story of Deepholme |
| 23:00.12 | Niv | I'm not quite done with deepholm yet |
| 23:00.19 | Niv | getting the last pillar fragment |
| 23:00.43 | foxlit | Probably just bias from the amount of content done. |
| 23:00.55 | Niv | vashj'ir must have the most linear quest progression ever |
| 23:01.07 | Niv | and it's awesome sans a couple spots where you can get hung up pushing to the next area |
| 23:01.19 | foxlit | All of the new zones seem to be that way |
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| 23:01.30 | foxlit | There's no more "here's 15 quests, some of them on the other continent, you figure it out" |
| 23:01.32 | Ressy | its because of phasing |
| 23:01.43 | Niv | I just like that it actually tells a story |
| 23:01.49 | foxlit | It's more like "do those three, then come back for three more, ad infinitum." |
| 23:02.10 | Niv | I'm running 8-9 hours for levels after 81 |
| 23:02.15 | Niv | w/ crashes wtc |
| 23:02.18 | Niv | etc* |
| 23:02.24 | Niv | does that seem inline with most of you guys? |
| 23:02.35 | Mirrormn | I like that they'd made questing more linear, but |
| 23:02.42 | Mirrormn | I think they may have gone a little too far with it |
| 23:02.53 | Niv | I'm only concerned about launch |
| 23:02.58 | Niv | it might be a bit brutal |
| 23:03.07 | NeoTron | from what I understand, all zones in the old world pretty much work the same too |
| 23:03.08 | foxlit | It'll fan out. |
| 23:03.10 | Gnarfoz | <Niv> more or less any author that wants to be, is in beta <-- not quite everyone, yet! T_T *goes to bed, still checking emails* ;D |
| 23:03.18 | Mirrormn | yar, right at launch, it's gonna be really ridiculous |
| 23:03.27 | Niv | Gnarfoz: did you hit up curse? |
| 23:03.32 | foxlit | For what it's worth, the introductory repop rates are crazy |
| 23:03.39 | Mirrormn | true |
| 23:03.42 | Niv | they are too high in fact |
| 23:03.48 | Gnarfoz | Niv: both, but neither have keys right now ;) |
| 23:03.51 | Niv | ah |
| 23:04.11 | Niv | so that means they gave out like 400-500 keys? |
| 23:04.14 | Mirrormn | actually, it seemed to me that respawn rates in hyjal were crazy fast, but respawn rates in vashj'ir were, if anything, too slow |
| 23:04.25 | foxlit | But things die fast enough, too, so it's not like you're in any danger. It's more of an annoyance when the monster you just killed has re-popped and you're now in for another five seconds of combat. |
| 23:04.34 | Niv | there were some areas in vashjir where they would respawn as soon as I killed them |
| 23:04.37 | Niv | endlessly |
| 23:04.41 | Dagmar | There is no such thing as a "too high" repop rate |
| 23:04.42 | Niv | yea |
| 23:04.51 | foxlit | And then there's that Harrison Jones quest |
| 23:04.58 | Gnarfoz | Niv: wowi.com says 200, guy from curse also said 200, so yeah, 400 all in all so far |
| 23:05.03 | Niv | when it feels like you're sitting inside stormwind fighting guards |
| 23:05.05 | Niv | it's too fast |
| 23:05.06 | foxlit | I haven't actually ever seen one of those snakes alive. |
| 23:05.27 | Niv | foxlit: playing on lost isles then? |
| 23:05.35 | Dagmar | Niv: I'm playing a BM hunter |
| 23:05.36 | foxlit | mekkatorque |
| 23:05.50 | Dagmar | Hell, even on my 'lock it's almost impossible to swamp me |
| 23:05.56 | Niv | is the eu server really high pop? |
| 23:06.15 | Niv | on gilneas I think the mass amount of gankage in the kelp forest helps keep plenty of mobs around for quests ;) |
| 23:06.17 | foxlit | No; never to the point of it being a real problem. |
| 23:06.39 | foxlit | There are quests that make it a problem, but that's a quest failure rather than a population failure. |
| 23:07.35 | Niv | the worst at launch are the "Kill <Named Mob>" |
| 23:08.06 | foxlit | But they've adapted those, too |
| 23:08.22 | Mirrormn | I can't quite decide if I'm gonna do Hyjal or Vashj'ir first on Live |
| 23:08.28 | foxlit | Some of them have you spawn that named mob for yourself |
| 23:08.36 | A-KO | I'm doing Hyjal first on live |
| 23:08.41 | foxlit | The Vash'jir boat wait is too damn long. |
| 23:08.43 | A-KO | I'll go back to Vash'jir later to get achieves |
| 23:08.57 | Niv | I'll be doing hyjal first on live, pvp server is going to make vashjir suck ;) |
| 23:09.09 | Nobgul | I agree with that. |
| 23:09.16 | Niv | especially since it appears we'll be starting with flying in azeroth |
| 23:09.19 | Mirrormn | well, but, if you go to Vashj'ir first and get ahead of everyone |
| 23:09.26 | Mirrormn | there won't be anyone to gank you |
| 23:09.43 | Niv | uh |
| 23:09.55 | NightHawkTheSane | except, you know, everyone else doing the same thing? |
| 23:09.56 | Niv | sure, if you beat them by an hour or two |
| 23:10.16 | Niv | balance is so bad right now though, it makes it feel a lot worse |
| 23:10.23 | Niv | spriests/ele shaman are just totally over the top |
| 23:10.24 | Mirrormn | you wouldn't have to beat them by an hour or two, just by a single zone |
| 23:10.43 | Niv | I think it takes an hour or two to get out of hte kelp forest |
| 23:11.00 | Mirrormn | well I don't mean like an entire zone |
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| 23:11.12 | Mirrormn | just an area, or a phase |
| 23:11.33 | Gnarfoz | right, still haven't figured out who's going to supply me with a copy of cataclysm pre-midnight |
| 23:11.36 | Gnarfoz | should get on that |
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| 23:15.50 | Nobgul | Niv I am now just in the creature in vashj'ir. It took me alot longer then 2 hours =X |
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| 23:34.40 | jnwhiteh | incites the WoW mob: It's another day, so please vote for @hjortur and his family. They're in 1st, but don't let them drop: http://bit.ly/aiH2nO |
| 23:35.07 | ^RaK^ | meant to thank you Cloudwolf, event stuff was much easier to find once i knew what to look for :< |
| 23:35.52 | Cloudwolf | Hmm RaK i honeslty don't remember when i helped you :D |
| 23:35.56 | ^RaK^ | lol |
| 23:36.13 | ^RaK^ | commented on my addon :) |
| 23:36.18 | ^RaK^ | yesterday :< |
| 23:36.22 | Cloudwolf | i think i just spent 3 hours playing alien infestation |
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| 23:36.37 | ^RaK^ | that the steam thing? |
| 23:36.45 | Cloudwolf | yeah free steam top down game |
| 23:36.46 | Cloudwolf | was fun |
| 23:37.02 | Niv | Nobgul: yea, but that happens a while after you get out of the kelp forest iirc |
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| 23:41.35 | Cloudwolf | well i sad cus blizzards monday is more like a friday and thier friday is more like a next month and by that they mean when cata is released you can have more beta codes |
| 23:44.06 | Cloudwolf | stupid questoin but because there are underwater zones. did they ever allow you to eat and drink under water? |
| 23:44.46 | Niv | yes |
| 23:44.50 | Niv | on the ocean floor |
| 23:44.55 | Cloudwolf | lol thank god |
| 23:45.00 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/26137026121/quit-spamming-beta-invites/ |
| 23:45.05 | Kraps | ^wut |
| 23:45.17 | Niv | you also get a 60% speed boost and perm underwater breathing in the first quest you do :) |
| 23:45.33 | Niv | and a mount maybe 15 quests in? |
| 23:45.45 | foxlit | Probably more than 15 |
| 23:45.47 | Cloudwolf | wait wait wait? perm under water breathing |
| 23:45.48 | Niv | I assume it's bugged though, it only does 280% when you're on the ocean floor |
| 23:45.53 | Cloudwolf | like no matter where you go with water you can breath there |
| 23:46.00 | Cloudwolf | even if its not vash wahtever |
| 23:46.01 | foxlit | Cloudwolf: no. |
| 23:46.01 | Niv | Cloudwolf: yes |
| 23:46.04 | Niv | in the zone |
| 23:46.07 | Cloudwolf | k |
| 23:46.09 | foxlit | It's specific to the zone. |
| 23:46.12 | Cloudwolf | k |
| 23:46.33 | Cloudwolf | lol kraps i hope that persons being a troll |
| 23:46.47 | Cloudwolf | i so hope that person is being a troll but i sadly do not think he/she is |
| 23:47.51 | Mirrormn | actually, there are seams in many places in the zone in which you get dismounted and get a breath timer |
| 23:48.07 | Cloudwolf | fun oh wait not fun |
| 23:48.08 | Niv | yea, but those are almost certainly bugs |
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| 23:56.17 | Cloudwolf | http://notalwaysright.com/animal-planet-after-hours/4420 lol anyyyy way.... |
