| 00:01.44 | Dagmar | Plus, why should I even be a little bit upset about a 3-day forum-only ban, which would probably be a 72-hour one anyway |
| 00:03.40 | Kraps | he answered you |
| 00:03.50 | Dagmar | There's a reason school teachers sometimes lean towards excessive discipline... and that's because the students outnumber them 30+ to 1. If they can't mete out _effective_ punishment, all turns to chaos and doesn't come back. |
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| 00:04.11 | Dagmar | Let's burn some trolls alive and put it on the web |
| 00:04.38 | eidolarr | you are so impressive right now |
| 00:07.49 | Dagmar | eidolarr: At this point, not only would I do it, my follow-up act would be to find some spammers to drag to death behind my car |
| 00:09.11 | Kraps | backs away |
| 00:11.39 | eidolarr | man lets be real, you are not doing anything, at "best" you will be one of those psychos on the news who sought out a ninja irl and stabbed them with a nail file |
| 00:11.43 | Dagmar | Kraps: At least by burning at the stake, you get to go out with the smell of bacon in your nostrils |
| 00:12.14 | Dagmar | eidolarr: I'm not doing anything because I don't have any trolls within easy reach |
| 00:12.16 | Shadowed | Keys #51 - #100 went out |
| 00:12.31 | Niv | Shadowed: thanks |
| 00:13.24 | Dagmar | eidolarr: I might not set one on fire, but yanking him up by his shirt collar and shaking him until his eyes can't stop wobbling would definitely be a possibility |
| 00:14.53 | Xuerian | So who gets keys right now.. >.> |
| 00:15.00 | eidolarr | vigorous shaking might be a fair compromise |
| 00:15.22 | Dagmar | Of course there's also a good chance that internally, I'd be visualizing them in flames as I shake them |
| 00:15.42 | Dagmar | Just because I recognize that it's overkill doesn't mean I won't vicariously enjoy it |
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| 00:21.35 | Niv | beta login servers seem down? |
| 00:21.54 | Xuerian | Darn, I didn't load wowi's main page fast enough to see before 100 :( |
| 00:22.58 | Dagmar | eidolarr: Note the bit in the middle about SPUTUM and what it did. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt.binaries.slack This is why I say vigilante task forces need to make a comeback. |
| 00:23.37 | Dagmar | By the way, the bit at the end... "The length and hostility of the flame war led some ABS regulars to question how far "parodying" should go." This is somewhat of a misstatement. Mainly it was "Have we gone too far on this guy yet? No... not yet. Good, I've got some new stuff to post." |
| 00:24.19 | Dagmar | Decent behaviour can be enforced in the face of anonymity. You just need a sufficiently motivated set of lunatics to make it happen. |
| 00:26.22 | A-KO | Niv: working fine for me |
| 00:26.25 | A-KO | I've been logging on and off |
| 00:26.26 | Niv | hrmmm |
| 00:26.31 | Niv | maybe I should reinstall my client |
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| 00:45.19 | eidolarr | say I am making a .pkgmeta file and I want AceAddon-3.0 but not AceComm-3.0 |
| 00:45.29 | eidolarr | they appear to be in the same repository |
| 00:46.40 | eidolarr | how can I do that? the knowledge base page says how to pull in a whole other repository, but not a specific part of one |
| 00:47.16 | Xinhuan | just specify the sub folder |
| 00:47.23 | Xinhuan | in your path |
| 00:47.37 | Xinhuan | for eg |
| 00:47.38 | Xinhuan | Libs/AceAddon-3.0: svn://svn.wowace.com/wow/ace3/mainline/trunk/AceAddon-3.0 |
| 00:48.00 | eidolarr | whatif it's git? |
| 00:48.11 | Xinhuan | no libraries are on git |
| 00:48.36 | eidolarr | so you should never put up a library with git? |
| 00:48.42 | Xinhuan | yep |
| 00:48.50 | eidolarr | for just this reason? |
| 00:49.04 | Xinhuan | you can't use svn revision numbers as version numbers for minor updates |
| 00:49.12 | Xinhuan | that is git has no version numbers |
| 00:49.50 | Xinhuan | so more so for practicality than anything else, if you use git, then you have to manual update your lib's versioning |
| 00:49.55 | Dagmar | Gods forbid you have to handle incrementing your version numbers manually |
| 00:50.14 | Xinhuan | and git doesn't support partial subfolder checkouts |
| 00:50.14 | eidolarr | when should you use tag: latest? |
| 00:50.24 | Xinhuan | you shouldn't have to |
| 00:51.20 | eidolarr | alright thanks |
| 00:51.41 | Xinhuan | if you're unsure, the best way is to svn checkout or git clone an existing repo of some addon on wowace |
| 00:51.49 | Xinhuan | it will checkout the .pkgmeta and you can see |
| 00:52.01 | Xinhuan | almost all addons allow public cloning/checkout |
| 00:52.49 | Xinhuan | so if you're aiming to duplicate some addon's pkgmeta for your own purposes, say bigwigs' multiple LoD addons, or submodules, or some other addon dependency |
| 00:53.42 | Thunder_Child | why are NAS's so samn expensive! |
| 00:53.47 | Thunder_Child | damn* |
| 00:54.33 | Dagmar | Because you can pay for it |
| 00:54.59 | Dagmar | They know if you're at that level of stuff that you need NAS, that you ain't some broke college kid |
| 00:55.14 | Thunder_Child | all i want is a NIC, 10 drive bays and a conrtoller |
| 00:55.18 | Dagmar | ...and if you knew how to do it yourself you'd have already don eit |
| 00:55.18 | Thunder_Child | how hard is that |
| 00:55.21 | Thunder_Child | to make cheap |
| 00:55.26 | Thunder_Child | i can, i am just lazy |
| 00:55.33 | Dagmar | Not real hard, assuming you don't expect a microATX formfactor |
| 00:55.47 | Xinhuan | many companies make money out of people's laziness |
| 00:55.52 | Dagmar | I'm up to like 8 drives |
| 00:55.57 | Thunder_Child | i dont care if it's 10 ft. tall |
| 00:56.02 | Xinhuan | car washing for example! |
| 00:56.30 | Dagmar | So I'm pretty sure... whassit... Chen-ming? has cases on Newegg with 10 bays in them |
| 00:56.51 | Xinhuan | did you mean yao ming |
| 00:56.58 | Dagmar | Install motherboard with 6 sata ports, install PCIe card with 4 more sata ports... |
| 00:57.06 | Dagmar | Xinhuan: Nah, it's Chen something |
| 00:57.28 | Dagmar | I'm looking now to try to remember |
| 00:58.08 | Dagmar | screw it. Lian-Li is the other company I'm used to seeing make pretty decent stuff on the cheap |
| 00:58.17 | Dagmar | They tend to kinda rip each other off |
| 00:58.34 | Dagmar | ...and BEHOLD http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007583+600030566&QksAutoSuggestion=&ShowDeactivatedMark=False&Configurator=&IsNodeId=1&Subcategory=7&description=&Ntk=&CFG=&SpeTabStoreType=&srchInDesc= |
| 00:58.58 | Dagmar | Ten internal 3.5" bays |
| 00:58.59 | Lunessa | wants an SSD for his system partition |
| 00:59.18 | Dagmar | Lunessa: I hate how pricey that is still |
| 00:59.24 | Dagmar | Goddamn Apple |
| 00:59.59 | Lunessa | Yeah, an 80GB is $219 - which isn't /bad/. For a Windows install I'd be booted and rocking in seconds though. |
| 01:00.19 | Niv | SSD was the best thing I've bought for performance in years, specifically with wow |
| 01:00.27 | Niv | it's nice to have loading take just a few seconds |
| 01:00.33 | Dagmar | $219 for 80Gb actually *is* bad considering that you can get a spindled 2 terabyte drive for about that |
| 01:00.48 | Niv | you can get it cheaper |
| 01:00.49 | Mirrormn | intel's G3 SSDs should be out fairly soon, shouldn't they? |
| 01:00.53 | Dagmar | One should definitely be able to do better than $79 for a 32Gb SSD tho |
| 01:01.08 | Niv | I wouldn't buy those super cheap SSDs |
| 01:01.10 | Niv | they kinda suck |
| 01:01.12 | Dagmar | It's been at that level alkmost all year because of freakin Apple buying up all the components for their iPads |
| 01:01.15 | Niv | get the intel SSDs, they are solid |
| 01:01.29 | Lunessa | Dagmar: I just know that cutting edge of consumer tech is always expensive. I remember paying $800 for 4 MEGS of RAM back when that was an insane amount. |
| 01:01.31 | cralor | not worth the price ATM |
| 01:01.34 | Dagmar | Miv: That's OCZ selling 32Gb SSDs for 479 |
| 01:01.35 | Niv | 80Gs were ~$300 a few months ago |
| 01:01.36 | Niv | they are dropping |
| 01:01.43 | Lunessa | Niv: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Intel%26%23174%3B+-+X25-M+Mainstream+80GB+Internal+Serial+ATA+II+Solid+State+Hard+Drive/9715112.p?skuId=9715112&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=9715112&ref=06&loc=01&id=1218156774032 |
| 01:02.02 | Niv | Lunessa: yep |
| 01:02.09 | Niv | looks like a G2 |
| 01:02.11 | Dagmar | Lunessa: yes, but it's supposed to drop faster than it's doing currently, and it actually went *UP* during the month before the iPad launch |
| 01:02.33 | Lunessa | Dagmar: Isn't supply and demand a beautiful thing? |
| 01:02.54 | Dagmar | It's just annoying when I'm looking to buy, *blink* and prices go up by a third |
| 01:02.58 | foxlit | "For speedy updates and connections. Write speeds up to 250 Mbps and read speeds up to 70 Mbps." |
| 01:03.00 | Lunessa | *nod* |
| 01:03.05 | Dagmar | I was like, wtf... prices on semiconductors don't go *up* |
| 01:03.11 | Niv | the 160G intel G2s are 140mbps writes |
| 01:03.13 | foxlit | Cute -- can write faster than you can read. |
| 01:03.16 | Niv | but a lot more spendy |
| 01:03.18 | Dagmar | My eee pc boots fast as hell tho |
| 01:03.52 | Lunessa | I'm thinking it would be as close to 'instant on' as I'm going to get for a while. |
| 01:04.15 | Dagmar | Yeah. We're also to the point now where I think they'd make a bit more money if they dropped the prices faster |
| 01:04.42 | Dagmar | Things are steady on the OS front, video cards aren't being pinched... it's about time for hard drives to take their turn at being upgraded |
| 01:05.05 | Lunessa | Yeah, Win7's performance scores rates my drive as the thing holding me back. |
| 01:05.16 | Dagmar | ...and yeah, the ssd as the boot/OS device produces a noticeable speed improvement |
| 01:05.26 | Niv | for booting |
| 01:05.27 | Niv | ;) |
| 01:05.32 | Dagmar | For just *running* |
| 01:05.38 | Lunessa | Booting is mostly what I care about. |
| 01:05.46 | Dagmar | A lack of head-switch times definitely shows throughout |
| 01:05.47 | Niv | well, I've been running win7 on one, I can't really tell the difference outside booting |
| 01:05.54 | Lunessa | Well, lowering WoW load times would be nice too. |
| 01:05.56 | Niv | without a side by side at least |
| 01:06.02 | Niv | the impact on wow loading is huge |
| 01:06.13 | Niv | an order of magnitude in my case |
| 01:06.16 | Dagmar | The eee 1000 performs about as well with Ubuntu as my freaking X2 4850e at home |
| 01:06.41 | cog|away | http://atheistexperience.blogspot.com/2010/07/there-simply-are-not-words-for-how.html |
| 01:06.45 | Dagmar | Under normal circumstances, an Intel Atom shoudn't be able to hold a candle to a dual-core machine with over twice the clock speed |
| 01:07.27 | Lunessa | As it stands, all I really want is better WoW performance. And unless I'm going to spend crazy money, I'm not really going to get more FPS, so load times is where it's at. |
| 01:07.54 | Dagmar | Mabbe get a *good* thumbdrive with decent read speeds and try that as a teaser |
| 01:08.11 | Niv | it's really really nice when you're doing debugging/coding on shit during a raid etc |
| 01:08.22 | foxlit | Just how long are your loading screens, Lunessa? |
| 01:08.39 | Dagmar | (I can tell when I'm running off the 16Gb thumbdrive I have |
| 01:08.44 | Niv | I bet 30-45 seconds |
| 01:08.45 | cralor | I'll make the SSD upgrade maybe later this year or next year |
| 01:08.49 | Lunessa | foxlit: Not too long, often faster than others with whom I'm raiding. But still need MOAR |
| 01:08.51 | Dagmar | I just don't really dare touch the printscreen key or Bad Things Will Happen. |
| 01:09.51 | Niv | you still have to flushed savedvars when you logout/reload |
| 01:10.03 | Niv | flush* |
| 01:10.20 | Dagmar | Yeah . 16gb is tight as a... Hmm... as a metaphor inappropriate for mixed company |
| 01:10.23 | Lunessa | I typically run WoW, Chrome, Vent, and Trillian Astra during a typical evening. I have a non-trivial number of AddOns. WoW loads pretty fast, but I'd like to watch loading screens for less time. |
| 01:10.39 | foxlit | I'm curious as to how fast that is, htough |
| 01:10.57 | Surehand | What revision is the beta up to m |
| 01:10.57 | foxlit | Think it takes around 5 seconds to zone into places from the X25 |
| 01:11.18 | foxlit | Could do with a reference point for an actual hard disk. |
| 01:11.24 | Niv | 12139? |
| 01:11.31 | Niv | it looks like |
| 01:11.33 | Niv | er |
| 01:11.34 | foxlit | (I'm more annoyed by the loading screens that they now push onto every "oh hey you got ported" transition) |
| 01:11.35 | Niv | 12319 |
| 01:11.37 | Lunessa | foxlit: I'm currently watching about 25-ish seconds (not hard numbers) of loading screen. |
| 01:11.48 | foxlit | Mm, so significant. |
| 01:11.49 | Surehand | Thanks |
| 01:12.16 | Lunessa | It's probably due to the large data files and all the excess textures/fonts, etc. in shared media. |
| 01:12.32 | Lunessa | large data files for auction data. |
| 01:12.49 | foxlit | It used to be that you could port from Shattrath to Exodar without a loading screen |
| 01:12.55 | Niv | most of it savedvars in my experience |
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| 01:13.13 | Niv | AH data, bag/bank caching addons, alt inventory addons etc |
| 01:13.15 | Niv | recount |
| 01:13.17 | Niv | :) |
| 01:13.33 | Lunessa | And like I said, my HD is slower than than any other component right now. It's a 360GB SATA II drive which is about 2.5 years old. |
| 01:13.36 | foxlit | [Then again, the mage portal in stormwind used to freeze the game for a few seconds] |
| 01:13.57 | Niv | the SSD is worth it for sure |
| 01:14.07 | foxlit | Which isn't that old in terms of HDD lifetimes :) |
| 01:14.11 | Niv | I have a raid0 of g1 intel SSDs where wow lives |
| 01:14.15 | Niv | just for fun |
| 01:14.18 | cralor | Is beta servers down? |
| 01:14.42 | Niv | login servers busy? |
| 01:14.45 | cralor | yeah |
| 01:14.51 | Lunessa | yeah, I didn't get the top performer either, just a decent, middle-of-the-pack drive from a reputable vendor. |
| 01:14.53 | Niv | I had that problem too, others said no. I'm reinstalling my client |
| 01:14.58 | cralor | :( |
| 01:15.03 | cralor | okie |
| 01:15.27 | Niv | I had my client around and was playing with a sandbox a while back, so I probably clobbered something |
| 01:15.39 | Lunessa | Though it will be offline tomorrow morning... http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25969519535&sid=2000 |
| 01:15.40 | foxlit | Do they not make 1-slot graphics cards anymore? |
| 01:15.48 | cralor | foxlit... rare :P |
| 01:15.53 | cralor | Yeah I saw |
| 01:15.57 | cralor | but I'll be sleeping :D |
| 01:17.36 | Lunessa | foxlit: everything I was looking at recently needed so much cooling that 2 slots was a given. |
| 01:17.55 | foxlit | Wonder what they spend their engineering time on |
| 01:18.04 | Lunessa | more MIPS! |
| 01:18.31 | cralor | I just purchased the 5850 |
| 01:18.51 | foxlit | Avoiding ATI; can't stand their website. |
| 01:19.07 | cralor | :D I love nvidia, too. But I thought I'd try ATI |
| 01:19.13 | Lunessa | my last three video cards were all HUGE. About as big as the old OrangePC cards used to be that had an entire Pentium on them. |
| 01:19.33 | foxlit | Lunessa: I should probably upgrade the actual /case/ next. |
| 01:19.45 | cralor | Plus all the reviews and benchmarks had an ATI surpassing the nvidia counterpart |
| 01:19.47 | Lunessa | Yeah. Space is good. |
| 01:20.04 | Niv | after years of defending ATI, I switched to nvidia over driver constant issues |
| 01:20.08 | Niv | it'd be hard for me to go back |
| 01:20.37 | cralor | I like nvidia more too :P Both end of fixing driver issues in the end |
| 01:20.54 | Niv | eh, the instability issues I had with ATI never really resolved |
| 01:21.05 | Niv | I just dealt with them |
| 01:21.12 | cralor | I've heard 10.6 works great |
| 01:21.18 | Lunessa | I like NVidia, though my current mobo is designed for ATI xfire instead of SLI |
| 01:21.48 | cralor | I've seen 5850 surpass the GTX470, so I'm happy |
| 01:23.13 | cralor | wow. at one point this Cata Installer reached 2.0MB/s :O |
| 01:23.26 | foxlit | It saturates your downlink. |
| 01:23.54 | cralor | What's that mean in basic nomenclature ? |
| 01:24.13 | Lunessa | Hrm, at $280 for the Radeon 5850 I think I'll wait a bit before getting another video cars. |
| 01:24.43 | cralor | Yeah. Wasn't cheap. But I need the power so my GPU isn't the bottleneck |
| 01:26.33 | Dashkal | Can anybody comment on how well 4.x plays with wine/linux? |
| 01:26.52 | Lunessa | kd3 would be the man. |
| 01:28.42 | kd3 | been working fine here |
| 01:29.07 | Dashkal | kd3: For when you're alive again, does the beta client play well with wine/linux? |
| 01:29.24 | kd3 | I've not been having issues since the first alpha build |
| 01:29.29 | kd3 | use d3d not opengl though |
| 01:29.44 | Dashkal | mmm |
| 01:29.55 | Dashkal | Might be worth it to just suck it up and play in windows then |
| 01:30.08 | kd3 | oh, newest wine rc too. |
| 01:30.10 | Dashkal | I find wine/d3d an excercise in pain |
| 01:30.25 | kd3 | how's that? I'm getting better fps in d3d mode on beta than I am in opengl mode on live |
| 01:30.29 | Lunessa | partial DX11 support is in, and water-reflections and sun-shafts are gorgeous. |
| 01:30.33 | kd3 | clean wineprefix too |
| 01:30.35 | Dashkal | Well, I'll have a look |
| 01:30.54 | Dashkal | Problem for me is I'm running ubuntu 64. Which means compiling later versions by hand. Which is a pita. |
| 01:31.05 | kd3 | 's on fedora 64... |
| 01:31.19 | kd3 | but then ubuntu doesn't handle the 32/64 bit thing as smartly as fedora does |
| 01:31.24 | Dashkal | On the plus side, I can patch in pulse support again. |
| 01:32.17 | Dashkal | kd3: Thanks for the heads up. |
| 01:32.24 | Dashkal | Guess I'll stop being lazy and get that running agian |
| 01:32.42 | Dashkal | just, meh. ubuntu really doesn't handle 32/64 well |
| 01:32.51 | Dashkal | Took me an afternoon last time of tracking down deps |
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| 16:30.43 | mikma | hi purl |
| 16:31.18 | mikma | lol lol lol some of these new mods in wowi, lol |
| 16:31.22 | mikma | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info17179-TrashEq.html |
| 16:31.39 | mikma | hello lvl70 max with those items |
| 16:32.28 | A-KO | hmm |
| 16:32.32 | A-KO | EU logon servers being hammered?... |
| 16:33.01 | Morkesh | "login server busy" :( |
| 16:33.35 | A-KO | yeah.... |
| 16:34.22 | Wobin | Cairenn: rofl http://www.thatvideosite.com/video/autotuned_cats |
| 16:34.53 | A-KO | my cat has decided to move to my lap and lie down |
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| 16:35.44 | Cairenn | Wobin: rofl |
| 16:36.08 | mikma | wobin: http://www.thatvideosite.com/video/hairless_cat_loves_hair |
| 16:36.18 | Maldivia | A-KO / Morkesh: what error are you getting on logs/connection.log ? |
| 16:37.22 | Morkesh | 7/13 18:09:53.632 Connecting to 12.129.236.252:1119 |
| 16:37.23 | Morkesh | 7/13 18:09:54.093 GRUNT: state: LOGIN_STATE_FAILED result: LOGIN_AUTH_OUTAGE |
| 16:37.23 | Morkesh | 7/13 18:09:54.114 Disconnected from fcec810c |
| 16:37.23 | Morkesh | 7/13 18:09:54.133 GRUNT: state: LOGIN_STATE_FAILED result: LOGIN_AUTH_OUTAGE |
| 16:37.27 | Cairenn | Maldivia: it's probably the same stuff as in here: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33899 |
| 16:37.44 | A-KO | same here |
| 16:37.59 | A-KO | though mine's trying to connect to 213.248.127.130:1119 |
| 16:38.20 | Maldivia | there has just been issues with the beta bnet where it wouldn't download the libraries needed to its cache folder, causing you to not be able to log in |
| 16:38.31 | A-KO | this is live |
| 16:38.35 | Maldivia | ahh |
| 16:38.45 | ckknight | I want the next beta wow patch |
| 16:38.50 | ckknight | with fancy talent changes |
| 16:38.50 | ckknight | :P |
| 16:39.13 | Morkesh | i'm in the european beta A-KO |
| 16:39.27 | A-KO | I haven't tried logging in to beta yet |
| 16:39.29 | Morkesh | arh |
| 16:39.35 | Morkesh | i can get on to live without problems |
| 16:39.49 | Maldivia | ckknight: the new talents trees look awesome :P |
| 16:40.06 | ckknight | have they released the shorter trees yet? |
| 16:40.11 | ckknight | I thought they were still tinkering |
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| 16:40.13 | Stanzilla | no |
| 16:40.25 | A-KO | nah not yet ckknight |
| 16:40.33 | Morkesh | hmm, when they start adding the new profession changes and new mining nodes etc. i wonder how easy it would be to fix gathermate or similar to work with those |
| 16:40.35 | A-KO | pretty much I expect the next patch to be what SHOULD HAVE BEEN the beta release patch |
| 16:40.47 | Morkesh | seeing how i'm on there i might aswell get working on finding the best farm routes aswell |
| 16:40.53 | Maldivia | Morkesh: mining nodes are ther, professions are there |
| 16:41.01 | Morkesh | 525 ones? |
| 16:41.05 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 16:41.06 | A-KO | only thing I've seen are obsidian nodes |
| 16:41.08 | Morkesh | awsome :o |
| 16:41.10 | mikma | jesus f**king christ, http://www.thatvideosite.com/video/nuclear_weapon_detonations_between_1945__1998 |
| 16:41.14 | mikma | what's the matter with people |
| 16:41.22 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3 (~kd3@wikia/kaydeethree) |
| 16:41.26 | Morkesh | then i shall move my army of characters there |
| 16:41.28 | ckknight | mikma: explosions are cool? |
| 16:41.35 | Maldivia | Morkesh: not finalized yet ofcourse |
| 16:41.50 | Morkesh | Maldivia: i've arranged with a friend to spend the first 2 weeks of cata tagteam goldmaking :P |
| 16:41.52 | mikma | ckknight: have a look at the count at the end... |
| 16:41.59 | Morkesh | so one of us farms, other one crafts and posts auctions etc. |
| 16:42.27 | Morkesh | so whoever is in charge of quick auctions better make sure it works for cata :P |
| 16:42.43 | Maldivia | well, the AH on beta is currently pretty fubar |
| 16:42.51 | Morkesh | haha, not surprised |
| 16:42.53 | durcyn | if by fubar you mean hilarious as always |
| 16:43.02 | Morkesh | i've been on the PTR a fair few times |
| 16:43.14 | Morkesh | frost wyrm flasks, well sure you can have some, 1k gold each |
| 16:43.29 | Maldivia | by fubar, I mean that auctions randomly change to 1c |
| 16:43.34 | Morkesh | haha :p |
| 16:43.45 | Morkesh | i hope that's a feature they plan on implementing on live |
| 16:44.05 | Maldivia | and the beta economy is... well, lets just say vendors are broken and everything's free |
| 16:44.23 | NightHawkTheSane | have betas ever really had an "economy" per se? :P |
| 16:44.37 | Maldivia | no |
| 16:44.44 | Morkesh | narh, no point really :P |
| 16:45.06 | Shirik_ | cog|work: hi |
| 16:45.27 | Lopeppeppy | Never really time to work one up. |
| 16:45.31 | Maldivia | when you can duplicate your own char and get 214k gold easily, really no idea in an economy |
| 16:45.35 | Morkesh | but brb :) damn physio says i should take atleast 5.000 steps a day so best get walking |
| 16:45.50 | Maldivia | physical or virtual steps? :) |
| 16:46.02 | Morkesh | hahaha :D i do 25.000 upwards in wow i believe |
| 16:46.11 | Morkesh | i've fixed routes around dalaran for idle fitness |
| 16:46.28 | Maldivia | I've head of 3, 5, 7, 9 etc step programs... but 5000 step program, that sounds painful :P |
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| 16:47.06 | ckknight | Morkesh: I have a treadmill desk that I've been doing at least two hours a day on |
| 16:47.08 | ckknight | pretty handy |
| 16:47.14 | Morkesh | it's only about 4km Maldivia :P ideally human adults should take 10.000 a day, as far as i've understood that's sort of the upper limit in terms of gaining benefit from it |
| 16:48.01 | Wobin | hm |
| 16:48.07 | Lunessa | As for mining, one of my toons in beta is already maxxed and the only thing so far to mine has been obsidian. Which you can't do anything with. |
| 16:48.12 | Wobin | we can't pre-download the beta client without a key, right? |
| 16:48.24 | Morkesh | sounds handy yeah :D well, the weather is amazing so should be ashamed if i spent all day inside and seeing how the login server insist on being busy anyway :/ |
| 16:48.31 | Maldivia | Morkesh: here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jomg-l7V6Tw |
| 16:48.34 | ckknight | I had someone with a key log into my machine to let me download it, Wobin |
| 16:48.38 | ckknight | before I got a real key |
| 16:48.52 | Wobin | ckknight: can't do that =) |
| 16:48.59 | ckknight | yea |
| 16:49.08 | Morkesh | Maldivia: wait what :P so you'r danish, fisker is, saw someone else aswell, how many danes are making addons o.o |
| 16:49.11 | Lunessa | Also, if you have a friend with the game installed, you /could/ just copy their entire install folder... all 16+ gigs of it. |
| 16:49.12 | Wobin | unless you want to lend me your login details =) |
| 16:49.24 | Wobin | hocrap... 16gigs? |
| 16:49.25 | ckknight | sure don't! |
| 16:49.34 | Wobin | I'm glad I'm in my new quota period |
| 16:49.37 | lowlee | wobin: won't help right now anyway with battle.net down :P |
| 16:49.44 | Maldivia | Wobin: my beta installation is current 31gigs |
| 16:49.59 | Maldivia | (ok, 2.7 gigs of that are patches) |
| 16:50.02 | mikma | wobin: http://www.thatvideosite.com/video/excellent_tom_cruise_impression |
| 16:50.05 | mikma | that's so cool |
| 16:50.34 | Wobin | mikma: that's.... scary |
| 16:50.35 | mikma | wobin: "i eat planets" |
| 16:50.46 | airtonix | fisker |
| 16:50.59 | airtonix | username : african_lovechild |
| 16:51.08 | airtonix | password : 45jD0xY |
| 16:51.11 | airtonix | gogogo |
| 16:51.14 | lowlee | wobin: actual download is about 5gig - 2.2 for initial install and 2.7 for patches |
| 16:51.20 | Morkesh | be back later :) |
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| 16:52.23 | Wobin | mikma: it reminded me of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1HSNV9y25A |
| 16:52.41 | Wobin | who does a terrifyingly good impersonation of Sir Ian McKellan |
| 16:52.45 | Satisfyme | Hmm i need a picture of a realy scared gnome. anyone know where I might wanna look ? |
| 16:53.54 | mikma | wobin: wow |
| 16:54.11 | Wobin | mikma: go listen to him do Ducktales =) |
| 16:54.25 | Maldivia | ducktales, wuhuu.... |
| 16:54.58 | mikma | wobin: christopher walken reading poker face out loud <3 :D |
| 16:54.59 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqyD8E1QATs&feature=channel |
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| 17:03.00 | Niv | so did anyone in the 1-50 batch of keys manage to get logged in? |
| 17:03.18 | Niv | since it seems that 50+ were not able to |
| 17:04.05 | Wobin | night all! |
| 17:05.03 | Ackis | it's been raining so much here =/ |
| 17:05.15 | Niv | sunny here! |
| 17:05.36 | Ackis | the humidity is making it difficult for me to breath |
| 17:05.45 | Niv | hehe |
| 17:05.48 | Niv | where are you? |
| 17:06.11 | Ackis | edmonton, alberta |
| 17:06.17 | Niv | ah |
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| 17:07.39 | Maldivia | Niv: the b.net servers are not working that well at the moment, US maintenance and all |
| 17:08.08 | Niv | Maldivia: right |
| 17:08.18 | Niv | but say, last night |
| 17:08.18 | Lunessa | I prefer ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg_cwI1Xj4M& |
| 17:10.04 | Cide | hmm |
| 17:10.13 | Cide | anyone who has sc2 but has not logged in since phase 2? |
| 17:10.37 | Ackis | me |
| 17:10.40 | Ackis | I logged in once |
| 17:10.57 | durcyn | i haven't. |
| 17:11.13 | Niv | I've logged in |
| 17:11.36 | Cide | well I need to figure out the max length of char names |
| 17:11.45 | Cide | if you've logged in you've already chosen name |
| 17:11.50 | Maldivia | A-KO: did you see http://idle.slashdot.org/story/10/07/13/139211 ? |
| 17:12.16 | durcyn | I'll have a go at it this evening, Cide |
| 17:12.19 | cralor | Niv: I was ID #1 :s |
| 17:12.24 | Cide | thanks |
| 17:12.27 | Niv | cralor: and can't get in? |
| 17:12.29 | cralor | right |
| 17:12.31 | Niv | k |
| 17:12.44 | Niv | someone suggested it was just keys 51+, which seemed wwrong |
| 17:12.47 | Niv | I just wanted to confirm |
| 17:13.20 | Maldivia | EU, US? |
| 17:13.46 | Vangual | it's wrong niv. |
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| 17:14.16 | Niv | <- US |
| 17:14.23 | Niv | Vangual: yea |
| 17:14.23 | cralor | I'm US. |
| 17:14.25 | cralor | Waiting for Battle.net (45min from now) and will check again |
| 17:14.44 | Ackis | can you will your battle.net account to someone else? |
| 17:15.32 | mikma | wobin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNKzUXA8d0o :DDDD "those are for sir ian!" |
| 17:16.22 | mikma | wobin: also, this is funny: http://www.thatvideosite.com/video/tik_tok_and_california_gurls_are_the_same_song |
| 17:16.30 | Lunessa | Cide: I have SC: 2 but haven't logged in in forever. However, I'm stuck in the office for another 7 hours. |
| 17:17.11 | Cide | well if you get a chance, see how many characters you can enter into the name selection box |
| 17:17.49 | Lunessa | makes a note. |
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| 17:19.13 | mikma | cairenn|afk: http://www.thatvideosite.com/video/the_cutest_911_call_youll_ever_hear !!! |
| 17:19.37 | Cide | nvm guys |
| 17:19.41 | Cide | I had an unused account |
| 17:19.44 | Cide | 12 chars is max |
| 17:19.46 | Maldivia | Lunessa: patched up, otherwise you have a long patch sequesnce ahead of you :P |
| 17:21.11 | Ackis | Lego Batman > Cataclysm |
| 17:21.30 | mikma | lolz, The file "C:\Pelit\World of Warcraft Beta\Data\common.MPQ : TILESET\EXPANSION03\LostIsles\LI_SandA.blp" could not be written. If this problem persists, please contact Blizzard Technical Support. (MPQTarget::Write/SFileWriteFile) |
| 17:24.18 | Lunessa | Wow, no less than 6 "WoWAccountAdmin" messages today. |
| 17:24.53 | Lopeppeppy | I'm getting them on an email account that is no way connected to my gaming life. |
| 17:25.00 | Lopeppeppy | I'm waiting to start getting them at work, tbh. |
| 17:25.10 | Niv | mikma: I did 5 installs last night, 4 of them failed like that |
| 17:25.29 | Niv | mikma: I had to repair my live install, disable AV and do a fresh download/install before I got it working |
| 17:25.37 | Ressy | Odd. |
| 17:25.41 | Niv | (it's much faster with AV off in my case) |
| 17:25.57 | Niv | microsoft security essentials wasn't playing nice |
| 17:26.10 | Maldivia | AVs can get really bitchy |
| 17:26.27 | Ackis | when I do the s/x/y/ to laypeople, they look at me weird :( |
| 17:27.10 | Cide | you do it irl? |
| 17:27.21 | mikma | niv: right, thanks from the tips, i'll try them :) |
| 17:27.25 | Lunessa | I apparently also won $8 million in some sort of online balloting system and the FBI has been kind enough to let me know. |
| 17:27.46 | Niv | mikma: good luck, it was really frustrating for me |
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| 17:28.11 | Niv | and then of course, my original install was fine.. everyone was having this issue :) |
| 17:28.33 | Maldivia | I've installed the beta 5 times now, 2x Mac, 3x Win - no issues at all |
| 17:28.42 | mikma | the most frustrating is that it started from the start and it takes bloody ages :D |
| 17:28.55 | Ressy | I had no issues either. |
| 17:28.56 | Niv | Maldivia: it installed cleanly onto my mac :) |
| 17:28.58 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, those work security clearances of yours must be spiffy, if the FBI hand-delivers your mail. |
| 17:29.12 | Niv | the issues I'm referring to, are the login server issues |
| 17:29.15 | Maldivia | Niv: the mac install for me took ages though! |
| 17:29.32 | Niv | Maldivia: same, but my mac has some crappy sata drive, and my workstation has an SSD :) |
| 17:29.40 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: I actually don't think I could get security clearance for a sensitive position in the US gov. |
| 17:30.11 | Maldivia | Niv well, I just let it do it's think over night, when I woke up it had also patched up to newest version :P |
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| 17:31.04 | Niv | the mac client auto-patched all the way up, my PC required me to login twice I think? |
| 17:31.32 | Maldivia | Niv that doesn't make sense, unless the patch server was down |
| 17:31.42 | Ackis | why cat photobombed Harry Potter! http://i31.tinypic.com/5tuq35.jpg |
| 17:31.52 | Niv | Maldivia: 5 times last night, same each time |
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| 17:32.20 | Maldivia | Niv: the PSF and the patches are stored on the same server |
| 17:32.34 | Maldivia | (or well, patch downloaders) |
| 17:33.40 | Maldivia | and the client downloads from that server as well |
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| 17:46.37 | Cide | fuck this lack of space |
| 17:46.46 | Cide | designing around ancient computers is difficult |
| 17:47.14 | cbreak | smartphones aren't ancient |
| 17:47.19 | cbreak | at least not all of them |
| 17:47.48 | Cide | it's okay to scroll on smartphones though |
| 17:47.52 | Lopeppeppy | Cide, are you designing small web sites to fit small screens, like the 800x600? |
| 17:47.58 | Cide | 1024x768 |
| 17:48.04 | Cide | is the minimum supported |
| 17:48.34 | Lopeppeppy | We're still designing for smaller than that. It hurts me inside. |
| 17:48.43 | Cide | yeah, I get to decide what to support |
| 17:48.48 | Cide | I'm also screwing over ie6 |
| 17:48.56 | Cide | more developers should |
| 17:49.25 | Lopeppeppy | We did a poll of our incoming class, and many of them still had ancient computers at school, so we designed for that... Can't wait for the redesign to hit, get a wider template! |
| 17:49.31 | cbreak | I just design my web pages scale independent |
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| 17:50.45 | Maldivia | cbreak: so when you have a 300px menu on the left, and 300px on the right, you have 150 px for the actual content? |
| 17:50.45 | Fisker | hey ckknight |
| 17:50.56 | cbreak | no |
| 17:51.01 | cbreak | why more than one menu? |
| 17:51.39 | Lopeppeppy | Sub sites of subsites of subsites, nightmares, oh my! |
| 17:51.58 | Niv | haha |
| 17:52.00 | alestane | Hence dynamic display of relevant browsables. |
| 17:52.02 | Niv | extended maintenance now |
| 17:52.14 | Lopeppeppy | trust me, dynamic is not always the solution. |
| 17:52.23 | eidolarr | git question: if I went up and made commits A,B,C on master, then went back to commit A and went on to make commits X,Y,Z following A, and I want to set master to the new A,X,Y,Z lineage, how do I do that without a merge? |
| 17:52.23 | cbreak | sounds crazy. |
| 17:52.35 | alestane | Horizontal displays? |
| 17:52.42 | cbreak | but my page is very simple, even the one menu I have is probably too much :) |
| 17:53.03 | cbreak | eidolarr: "went back"? |
| 17:53.08 | cbreak | you mean you did a git reset --hard? |
| 17:53.14 | Shirik_ | :( |
| 17:53.16 | Lopeppeppy | We have a few of those, alestane, but same survey indicated a strong desire for vertical menus... As I said, can't WAIT for the redesign to perk through. |
| 17:53.17 | Shirik_ | perforce has failed me |
| 17:53.26 | eidolarr | cbreak: like, I said "this whole thing is a misstep" and went back to checkout a place I was happier about |
| 17:53.31 | cbreak | eidolarr: do a git status and look on which branch you are |
| 17:53.33 | eidolarr | not reset, just checkout |
| 17:53.37 | Shirik_ | to set environment variable-like things in perforce you do `p4 set` |
| 17:53.42 | cbreak | then you have done something you should not |
| 17:53.45 | Shirik_ | so I was like "I need to check it, obviously the command is `p4 get` |
| 17:53.49 | cbreak | you have detached your head and commited there |
| 17:53.56 | eidolarr | yeah but I put it on a branch |
| 17:53.57 | Shirik_ | actually no, that's "get all latest from server" |
| 17:54.00 | Shirik_ | now I have to wait 15 minutes :( |
| 17:54.01 | cbreak | good |
| 17:54.06 | cbreak | now you can do git checkout master |
| 17:54.08 | Lopeppeppy | Epic fail, Shirik. |
| 17:54.08 | Cide | shirik_: owned |
| 17:54.16 | cbreak | and git reset --hard thebranchyouwanttobemaster |
| 17:54.21 | eidolarr | ahh ok |
| 17:54.24 | eidolarr | thanks |
| 17:54.28 | cbreak | the old master will vanish and become what you told it to be |
| 17:54.33 | eidolarr | even if thebranchyuowanttobemaster isn't an ancestor of master? |
| 17:54.40 | cbreak | you can reset to anything |
| 17:54.48 | eidolarr | ah cool, exactly what i was looking for, awesome |
| 17:55.00 | cbreak | reset is not a merge |
| 17:55.08 | cbreak | it's more like completely changing a branch |
| 17:55.19 | eidolarr | yeah like just moving the branch pointer |
| 17:55.30 | cbreak | yes. |
| 17:55.31 | eidolarr | are those orphan commits still accessible in any way? |
| 17:55.37 | cbreak | with --hard it will also affect the working dir |
| 17:55.39 | eidolarr | they would be B and C in this example |
| 17:55.39 | cbreak | yes |
| 17:55.49 | cbreak | eidolarr: check out man git-reflog |
| 17:56.10 | cbreak | or if you want to see them, git log -g |
| 17:56.25 | cbreak | the reflog is a great thing :) |
| 17:56.28 | Ackis | http://consumerist.com/2010/07/get-amazon-prime-free-for-1-year-with-edu-address.html |
| 17:58.08 | alestane | I don't see any kind of switch or case statement in Python...am I missing something? |
| 17:58.18 | Cide | nope |
| 17:58.42 | Cide | do you need fall-through logic? |
| 17:58.59 | alestane | The guy who's teaching our Python class comes from a background in COBOL. |
| 17:59.10 | Lunessa | *shudduer* |
| 17:59.20 | Lunessa | DO UNTIL |
| 17:59.26 | Lopeppeppy | Huh. I thought they killed all of the COBOL programmers. |
| 17:59.39 | alestane | He's looking of a select...case structure, which is basically a condensed if..elseif..elseif...else structure. |
| 17:59.41 | cbreak | they are maintaining the precious banking infrastructure |
| 17:59.44 | alestane | lookig for*. |
| 18:00.22 | Lunessa | alestane: I don't know python, and my COBOL is rusty as hell. |
| 18:00.27 | alestane | I see Python has elif. That's probably what he gets to use. |
| 18:00.35 | Cide | yup |
| 18:01.15 | alestane | Well, what he was complaining about was excessive indentation with chained ifs, so elif should solve that for him. |
| 18:01.58 | Cide | yeah, there's no need for if { } else { if { ... } } |
| 18:01.59 | cbreak | just don't indent? |
| 18:02.40 | Cide | in python? |
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| 18:04.21 | Xuerian | Hah, so who's the unlucky wowi employee who gets to sift through addon submissions right now? |
| 18:04.38 | Lopeppeppy | Random script! |
| 18:05.00 | Xuerian | lol |
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| 18:08.05 | malreth | picks up and spins Seerah around and around in a circle twenty seven times. |
| 18:08.25 | Seerah | wonders if she can hold down her lunch |
| 18:08.34 | alestane | You get to clean it up, malreth. |
| 18:09.01 | jnwhiteh | WHY DO PEOPLE USE RAR? |
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| 18:09.09 | Lopeppeppy | to make you holler? |
| 18:09.13 | alestane | Because it's "better." |
| 18:09.13 | cog|work | jnwhiteh: I NO RITE? |
| 18:09.16 | Xuerian | Why do people use winrar is a equally good question |
| 18:09.26 | Cide | Xuerian, because people use rar |
| 18:09.35 | cog|work | 7-zip imo |
| 18:09.38 | Xuerian | Cide: 7zip handles rar files better than winrar ever did |
| 18:09.49 | mikma | peazip |
| 18:09.53 | Cide | meh. |
| 18:10.20 | Xuerian | I'm not endorsing rars either, but winrar is more confusing to me |
| 18:11.04 | Cide | hmm |
| 18:11.05 | malreth | Xuerian: You might as well just ask, "Why do so many Windows users like crap?" |
| 18:11.06 | mikma | i went with PeaZip, it's a good program too |
| 18:11.07 | eidolarr | People seem to like .rar because it makes it easy to split up a big archive? and then everyone else just thinks it's cool? |
| 18:11.15 | Cide | consider this |
| 18:11.19 | Xuerian | malreth: Touche', I suppose. |
| 18:11.25 | alestane | There's a common assertion, which I've never tested, that RAR compresses files smaller than zip formats do. However, I believe it's also a proprietary scheme. |
| 18:11.33 | Cide | it's true, alestane |
| 18:11.36 | eidolarr | alestane: I think that's correct |
| 18:11.36 | Xuerian | It does. |
| 18:11.45 | eidolarr | but i think 7z is better than both |
| 18:12.15 | Xuerian | 7z does it better, but rar was used for nearly the entire windows world for distributing non-official releases online before there was a alternative with a better or equivalent gui |
| 18:12.32 | Cide | I have a variable height div, and now I need to position some vertically centered text above this variable height div |
| 18:12.34 | Cide | thoughts? |
| 18:12.55 | A-KO | Fixed a bug where Baleful Strike would grant Veigar AP even if the target died before the spell hit. |
| 18:12.55 | A-KO | Dark Matter ability power ratio increased to 1.0 from 0.8. |
| 18:12.55 | A-KO | Primordial Burst damage modified to 250/375/500 from 200/350/500. |
| 18:12.55 | A-KO | Primordial Burst ability power ratios increased to 1.0 from 0.8 (both from Veigar and the target) |
| 18:12.57 | A-KO | Finally |
| 18:13.00 | A-KO | they buffed him again :P |
| 18:13.08 | Lunessa | another div with align=center :P |
| 18:13.17 | cbreak | Cide: I've had quite some problems centering something vertically in any situation |
| 18:13.23 | Cide | naturally |
| 18:13.24 | cbreak | CSS doesn't seem to do that |
| 18:13.25 | alestane | Where is the text to go above place in the stream? |
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| 18:13.46 | Cide | Lunessa, the text needs to be on top of the div |
| 18:13.52 | Cide | alestane, huh? |
| 18:14.01 | Xuerian | Centering is always fun, but there's plenty of pages describing the tricks to do it, a google search away. However, to do nearly the same thing, I use a child div with a negative top margin |
| 18:14.06 | Cide | cbreak, there are a few tricks but they are a lot harder for variable height |
| 18:14.14 | Xuerian | and give the parent div a top margin to compensate |
| 18:14.15 | Cide | Xuerian, only works on fixed-height |
| 18:14.25 | alestane | Is the text to go above before or after the variable-height div in the (x)html? |
| 18:14.31 | Cide | doesn't matter |
| 18:14.36 | Xuerian | Cide: Hard to see exactly what you're going for with the description you gave, but fair enough |
| 18:14.38 | Cide | it should be centered ON the div |
| 18:14.48 | alestane | Oh, vertically centered. |
| 18:14.58 | alestane | I thought there was a property for that. |
| 18:15.10 | Cide | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28010/stuff.JPG |
| 18:15.13 | Cide | there is |
| 18:15.31 | Cide | but it requires the div to be of the same height |
| 18:15.40 | Cide | but since it needs to be on top of the other div it also needs to be out of flow |
| 18:15.46 | Cide | and if it's out of flow it won't get the same height |
| 18:15.51 | Cide | .... |
| 18:15.55 | Cide | therein lies my problem |
| 18:16.09 | Jamash | so set a height in em? |
| 18:16.09 | Xuerian | You're trying to to get a 5-high grid with the third row spanning both columns..? |
| 18:16.11 | durcyn | Xuerian: huh, margin: 0px auto; should still work as expected |
| 18:16.19 | alestane | Hmm...Maybe make a parent div for both, which is set to auto-height, then set the vertically centered div to be of its parent's height? |
| 18:16.39 | amro | Cide: put it in the div, and give it top: 45% |
| 18:17.09 | Cide | durcyn, that's for horizontal centering |
| 18:17.18 | durcyn | oh, missed the vertical bit. |
| 18:17.20 | cbreak | you could do it in embedded SVG instead of HTML :) |
| 18:17.22 | durcyn | good luck. |
| 18:17.26 | Cide | amro, huh? |
| 18:17.58 | Cide | the player names + icon rows are from 1 to 4, depending on player count |
| 18:17.58 | amro | Cide: you have a div, and you want to center some text in it vertically right? |
| 18:18.04 | Cide | not quite |
| 18:18.13 | Cide | now I need to vertically center the vs |
| 18:18.19 | Cide | so that it appears in the vertical center of the player list |
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| 18:18.29 | Cide | can't put it in the same div since that's already full of content |
| 18:18.34 | amro | can you post some html? |
| 18:18.54 | Xuerian | And a simple sketch of what you're after :D |
| 18:18.57 | cbreak | http://www.dabbleboard.com/ :) |
| 18:19.04 | cbreak | shared sketches on the net |
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| 18:19.13 | Xuerian | web developer cerclejerks are fun. |
| 18:19.24 | Cide | <Xuerian> And a simple sketch of what you're after :D |
| 18:19.26 | Cide | <Cide> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28010/stuff.JPG |
| 18:19.37 | Xuerian | cide, unless you're a prodigy artist, that's not a sketch. |
| 18:19.43 | Cide | that's better than a sketch |
| 18:19.44 | Xuerian | That's clearly a picture. :D |
| 18:19.54 | ccox | oooh, the cataclysm phishers are getting better - I just got one with correct English, and *Almost* correct URLs. |
| 18:20.03 | Cide | http://pastey.net/138552 |
| 18:20.05 | Xuerian | Yeah, because I'm still asking for a sketch, amro is asking for a html snippet, and no one gets what you want |
| 18:20.14 | Cide | amro gets what he wants |
| 18:20.20 | Cide | your sketch can fuck itself :) |
| 18:20.35 | Xuerian | Cide: You really haven't changed much in four years :p |
| 18:20.38 | cbreak | Cide: you fiend! You forgot random! |
| 18:20.40 | Cide | not at all |
| 18:20.41 | eidolarr | I got an email apparently from billing@blizzard.com the other day reporting a subscription status change when no change took place, but there were no obvious bad links in the email; i was an am confused |
| 18:20.53 | eidolarr | gmail flagged it as spam |
| 18:20.53 | Cide | that is |
| 18:20.57 | Cide | Xuerian, I haven't changed at all |
| 18:20.57 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, I got one about buying an in-game pet, it was extremely convincing. |
| 18:21.02 | Cide | anyway |
| 18:21.09 | Cide | so .players is variable-height obviously |
| 18:21.27 | Cide | now I need to somehow "paste" a "vs" in the vertical center of .players |
| 18:21.44 | cbreak | eidolarr: look at src? |
| 18:21.49 | alestane | If a child div is out of flow, is it relative to its parent or the page? |
| 18:22.02 | Cide | depends |
| 18:22.11 | Cide | if you take it out of flow with position: absolute |
| 18:22.15 | Xuerian | alestane: Depends on if the parent div is relatively positioned or not. |
| 18:22.16 | eidolarr | cbreak: I found it, where it says the URL for worldofwarcraft.com/billing it's actually some phishing site |
| 18:22.28 | Cide | its position is relative to the closest parent that is explicitly positioned |
| 18:22.29 | eidolarr | all the other links are legitimate |
| 18:22.41 | Xuerian | div(relative) -> div(absolute), child will be absolute, relative to parent and out of flow. |
| 18:22.42 | alestane | If you make it a child, can you position it with the same edges as its parent? |
| 18:23.09 | Cide | in theory |
| 18:23.17 | Cide | but ie doesn't support top: 0; bottom: 0; |
| 18:23.30 | alestane | Okay, at least we can blame IE now. |
| 18:23.58 | kd3 | yay, belves cursing goblins to die in a fire |
| 18:24.04 | amro | Cide: why isn't the vs in .players? |
| 18:24.06 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Mystery_of_the_Sarcen_Stone |
| 18:24.18 | alestane | The standard has a correct solution, just it's not implemented correctly. |
| 18:24.28 | Cide | amro, I can put it wherever |
| 18:24.33 | Cide | also |
| 18:24.36 | alestane | (I'm still waiting for reliable implementations of run-in and compact.) |
| 18:24.48 | amro | did you try using relative %? |
| 18:24.55 | Cide | going to try, sec |
| 18:25.12 | malreth | AAAAHHOOOOOHHH: http://i.imgur.com/lh7ZA.jpg |
| 18:25.30 | alestane | It's a bathroom... |
| 18:25.30 | cog|work | malreth: well that's a sticky situation... |
| 18:25.31 | Cide | that seems to work, amro |
| 18:25.33 | Cide | good idea, thanks |
| 18:25.40 | alestane | ...with duct tape in the toilet paper indispenser. |
| 18:25.42 | Cide | well |
| 18:25.49 | Cide | it appears to work :) |
| 18:25.51 | mikma | wax while you wipe |
| 18:25.56 | Cide | it doesn't *really* work |
| 18:26.15 | Cide | the difference from the true center will vary with the height |
| 18:26.41 | Xuerian | malreth: nahahaha |
| 18:26.58 | alestane | Cna you set it to 1px insets so it's slightly smaller but even distances from the borders? |
| 18:27.02 | amro | Cide: what you need to do is somehow subtract half the text height from the % |
| 18:27.10 | amro | maybe using an invisible div to rel to, again? |
| 18:27.17 | amro | CSS needs arithmetic |
| 18:27.20 | Cide | it does |
| 18:27.25 | Cide | and I'm not going to bother |
| 18:27.28 | alestane | CSS 3 has arithmetic, I thought. |
| 18:27.31 | Cide | the difference is miniscule |
| 18:27.40 | Cide | alestane, not "top: 50% - 30px" afaik |
| 18:27.45 | Cide | maybe it does |
| 18:27.48 | Cide | /shrug |
| 18:27.53 | Cide | if so I will get to use it in 10 years |
| 18:27.56 | alestane | It's not implemented yet anyway AFAIK. |
| 18:27.58 | Cide | when CSS 6 is released or so |
| 18:28.25 | cbreak | variables would be nice |
| 18:28.26 | Lunessa | http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2366423,00.asp |
| 18:28.33 | amro | annoying thing is that the CSS properties can't be easily manipulated from js |
| 18:28.49 | cbreak | and I mean variables like in prolog |
| 18:28.49 | amro | you can't do someDiv.height = someOtherDiv.height * 2; |
| 18:29.00 | amro | so even with javascript you can't easily solveit |
| 18:29.11 | Xuerian | It doesn't need arithmetic, it needs proper standards implementation so we can start moving forward instead of spending most of the time working around bad implementations and old browsers. |
| 18:29.20 | cbreak | so you could do in css something like width: x; height: x*2; |
| 18:29.26 | cbreak | and then it would automatically find an x that works |
| 18:29.39 | amro | there's an infinite amout of xes that work there |
| 18:29.43 | cbreak | yes |
| 18:29.47 | cbreak | exactly :) |
| 18:29.53 | Cide | why do you release a security exploit shortly after a monthly patch? |
| 18:29.55 | Cide | that's fucking evil |
| 18:29.56 | amro | firefox is slow enough without getting stuck in infinite loops |
| 18:30.10 | cbreak | it's like in prolog |
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| 18:30.23 | cbreak | you find solutions until you have enough |
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| 18:31.31 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, now I see why the campus is starting to migrate to Windows 7. |
| 18:31.37 | cbreak | to render a page, you just need one solution |
| 18:31.43 | amro | Lopeppeppy: free cookies? |
| 18:31.49 | cbreak | Lopeppeppy: xp sp2 support ended? :) |
| 18:31.51 | malreth | Lopeppeppy: because it's better than XP and Vista put together? |
| 18:32.02 | Xuerian | I was going to say something, but I think those three covered the bases. |
| 18:32.18 | amro | well no, we didn't mention windows 7 groupies |
| 18:32.18 | Lopeppeppy | End of life of XP, which is the current PC OS on campus. :) |
| 18:32.32 | amro | cbreak wins |
| 18:32.33 | cbreak | too cheap for OS X then... |
| 18:32.40 | amro | I still think it's because of cookies and/or groupies |
| 18:32.57 | eidolarr | Windows Vista vs Windows 7 is an example of how much MS needs to sober up about marketing in general, gg kin |
| 18:33.02 | cbreak | I read that sp3 still has support for some time |
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| 18:33.24 | cbreak | I find windows 7 a pain in the ass |
| 18:33.31 | amro | http://yfrog.com/4rtxadj wtb |
| 18:33.38 | Lopeppeppy | It's still a clear signal that it's time to start moving people upward to 7, since we already knew we were skipping Vista. |
| 18:33.44 | eidolarr | w7 abd vista are both solid imo, finally a real security model |
| 18:33.45 | cbreak | maybe I am just not used it, but ... working with more than 10 or 20 windows is just too slow |
| 18:34.05 | cbreak | eidolarr: didn't xp already have a model? |
| 18:34.15 | amro | eidolarr: too bad you have to disable it like all the time |
| 18:34.16 | cbreak | the users were braindead enough to work as admin though |
| 18:34.17 | eidolarr | not really |
| 18:34.28 | amro | I know I had to |
| 18:34.29 | tem | ~serveralert |
| 18:34.30 | eidolarr | it's not just the users' fault, programs assumed admin |
| 18:34.31 | amro | half my shit wouldn't work |
| 18:34.32 | tem | ~serveralert us |
| 18:34.38 | tem | !serveralert us |
| 18:34.45 | tem | doesn't remember D: |
| 18:34.56 | Lopeppeppy | ~wowalert |
| 18:34.57 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 18:34.58 | cbreak | ALERT: Server Hamster Ate Purl |
| 18:34.59 | amro | eidolarr: it's microsoft's fault for not clarifying where shit was supposed to go |
| 18:35.16 | Xuerian | Windows never enforced running without privileges, everyone did it, programs were designed with it in mind. Ergo, the status quo. |
| 18:35.24 | amro | and it's also their fault that the first user you get is an admin |
| 18:35.31 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/amarica.jpg |
| 18:35.52 | eidolarr | amro: meh it's more of a cultural issue imo, and compatibility is important to them, the shitty programs from the 90s written by bad devs who assumed admin had to still run |
| 18:36.08 | amro | eidolarr: that's more of a business issue |
| 18:36.11 | amro | and it's still their fault |
| 18:36.15 | Lunessa | http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-07-13/activision-hires-ad-executive-eric-hirshberg-to-lead-its-publishing-unit.html |
| 18:36.16 | cbreak | amro: not really. On linux the first user is root. On OS X it's an admin too |
| 18:36.31 | amro | cbreak: no linux distribution gives root privileges to the user you make during setup |
| 18:36.32 | cbreak | it's windows' fault for not asking the user to create an other one though |
| 18:36.37 | Morkesh | haha yeah mikma :D |
| 18:36.43 | Morkesh | saw it earlier today |
| 18:37.20 | amro | I just reinstalled XP on a laptop yesterday |
| 18:37.20 | cbreak | amro, that's because the user you create during setup is created after root |
| 18:37.20 | eidolarr | maybe it was their fault for making a bad design call back in the 80's or whatever, my point is it's good that they have a working solution now |
| 18:37.20 | malreth | cbreak: yes, but an OS X admin user is not the same as root or a windows admin user |
| 18:37.20 | amro | it says, gimme your name |
| 18:37.20 | amro | you hit next |
| 18:37.20 | amro | bam, admin |
| 18:37.20 | amro | cbreak: well duh |
| 18:37.20 | Xuerian | Are there any mirrors for the beta patches? |
| 18:37.28 | Jamash | sudo make me a sandwich |
| 18:37.28 | amro | stop nitpicking, you know what I mean |
| 18:37.31 | cbreak | malreth: an os x admin has sudo rights with his own password, which is equivalent to root rights |
| 18:37.35 | amro | you're not supposed to login as root |
| 18:37.49 | amro | cbreak: no, far from it |
| 18:37.59 | malreth | cbreak: yes... but until you enter that password, you do not have those rights |
| 18:38.02 | cbreak | I can sudo -s and have a root shell |
| 18:38.08 | eidolarr | if you type in your password |
| 18:38.15 | cbreak | yes. |
| 18:38.19 | eidolarr | which is the point |
| 18:38.20 | malreth | cbreak: and those rights are limited to the class of activity that is being authorized |
| 18:38.34 | cbreak | like, everything you want to do |
| 18:38.38 | eidolarr | the new W7/vista model is basically sudo |
| 18:38.39 | cbreak | a root shell has no real limitation |
| 18:38.46 | Shirik_ | wow |
| 18:38.51 | Shirik_ | I didn't realize this was possible in pure C++ |
| 18:38.52 | amro | exactly eidolarr |
| 18:38.59 | Shirik_ | Unhandled exception at 0x00746ee9 in AutoConnectFrameworkUnitTests.exe: 0xC0000096: Privileged instruction. |
| 18:39.08 | eidolarr | wow |
| 18:39.10 | Shirik_ | I think my compiler broke something |
| 18:39.11 | eidolarr | what was it? what processor? |
| 18:39.17 | Shirik_ | x86 |
| 18:39.20 | cbreak | did you use inline asm or something? |
| 18:39.23 | eidolarr | what instruction? |
| 18:39.29 | amro | HCF |
| 18:39.33 | foxlit | "... found that shrimp exposed to the antidepressant fluoxetine are 5 times more likely to swim towards light instead of away from it." |
| 18:39.38 | amro | figures shirik would try something like HCF. |
| 18:39.50 | Shirik_ | this |
| 18:39.51 | Shirik_ | 0035172F cmp esi,esp |
| 18:39.56 | eidolarr | ah |
| 18:39.58 | eidolarr | yeah sometimse like |
| 18:40.06 | Lopeppeppy | If going into the light is an expression for dying, why would anti-depressed shrimp want to die? |
| 18:40.13 | eidolarr | in x86 instructions are "helpfully" changed in their meaning depending on segment selectors |
| 18:40.42 | Shirik_ | sorry I was wrong |
| 18:40.45 | Shirik_ | it's further up the stack |
| 18:40.49 | Shirik_ | 00746EE9 outs dx,byte ptr [esi] |
| 18:41.02 | eidolarr | hardware? |
| 18:41.06 | Shirik_ | I don't even think this is valid code |
| 18:41.11 | Shirik_ | I must have smashed the stack somewhere |
| 18:41.21 | Shirik_ | like |
| 18:41.25 | Shirik_ | the "instruction" before that is 00746EE8 db d8h |
| 18:41.36 | eidolarr | heh |
| 18:41.43 | eidolarr | does that address look credible? |
| 18:41.54 | Shirik_ | it doesn't resolve to any line of code the debugger is aware of |
| 18:41.57 | Shirik_ | so that's not a good sign :P |
| 18:42.00 | cog|work | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg (nsfw language) |
| 18:42.20 | mikma | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/index.xml |
| 18:42.29 | mikma | lol wat, something broken |
| 18:42.51 | cog|work | fine for me... |
| 18:43.26 | eidolarr | did you know it's legal to define main as a char array and write bytecode? |
| 18:43.32 | Shirik_ | yup! |
| 18:43.34 | Shirik_ | I've done it before |
| 18:43.57 | eidolarr | on gcc you get some weak-willed warning like "main is usually a function" |
| 18:43.57 | mikma | oh right. NoScript blocked everything |
| 18:44.05 | Shirik_ | haha |
| 18:44.11 | Shirik_ | that's gcc going "wtf is wrong with you" |
| 18:45.15 | amro | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16lsJREj9vY epic |
| 18:45.26 | eidolarr | I wish it had an option to put canaries on the stack or something |
| 18:46.04 | Shirik_ | canaries? |
| 18:46.35 | eidolarr | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canary_value |
| 18:47.13 | Shirik_ | oh I didn't know that's what they were called |
| 18:47.17 | Shirik_ | visual studio does that |
| 18:47.22 | Shirik_ | but I think it does it only in debug mode |
| 18:47.27 | mikma | amro: haha |
| 18:47.30 | amro | the stack is not a zoo eidolarr |
| 18:47.34 | Shirik_ | I mean you could turn it on for release mode |
| 18:47.39 | Shirik_ | but not by default |
| 18:47.47 | cog|work | amro: not by default |
| 18:47.48 | Shirik_ | it is very useful :) |
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| 18:48.07 | Shirik_ | #define zoo eax |
| 18:48.12 | Shirik_ | __asm PUSH zoo |
| 18:48.27 | eidolarr | oh I was thinking about gcc, it might have --f-stack-protection or something like that |
| 18:48.32 | sylvanaar_atwork | anyone else read that as "zoo sex" ? |
| 18:48.42 | Shirik_ | ... |
| 18:48.56 | Maldivia | sylvanaar: only to your dirty mind |
| 18:49.00 | sylvanaar_atwork | haha |
| 18:49.09 | amro | mikma: they made deadpool pretty awesome in that game, incl. more fourth wall breakage |
| 18:50.09 | eidolarr | cbreak: anyway part of the significance of sudo and all of the significance of W7's protection is that programs can't do admin things without the user's consent |
| 18:50.47 | Shirik_ | well |
| 18:50.48 | cbreak | at least on OS X, getting consent is not hard |
| 18:50.57 | cbreak | you only have to ask the user for it |
| 18:50.59 | eidolarr | no but it's better than not having to do it at all =) |
| 18:51.12 | amro | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUgvfgNsMV0#t=3m05s |
| 18:54.58 | Ackis | http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/4a87d48fdd/undercover-karaoke-with-jewel?=twitter pretty cool, jewel goes undercover and sings her own songs karoke style |
| 18:56.12 | Ackis | someone told her "you can be an ugly girl but with a voice like that you're gonna get laid" |
| 18:57.24 | NeoTron | that is kind of funny |
| 19:01.37 | nicoli_s | lol jewel, my mom loved that shit |
| 19:03.23 | Ackis | I like her voice |
| 19:03.30 | Ackis | (and I knew the words to some of her songs) |
| 19:03.43 | malreth | I'm trying to decide if this is irony or not: http://consumerist.com/2010/07/gamers-who-complained-about-blizzards-about-forum-privacy-see-email-addresses-leaked.html |
| 19:03.46 | A-KO | cool video, but not funnyordie worthy... |
| 19:03.47 | mikma | who is Jewel? :P |
| 19:04.03 | Lopeppeppy | light pop kinda female singer |
| 19:04.40 | Seerah | he knows |
| 19:04.41 | Lopeppeppy | malreth, that's fuuuuuuny. In an evil way. |
| 19:04.47 | Seerah | ~lart mikma |
| 19:04.47 | purl | whips out a sword and chops mikma in half |
| 19:04.55 | Dashkal | Irony? Yes. Surprising? Not really... |
| 19:04.58 | Lopeppeppy | Makes me very glad I didn't write! |
| 19:05.03 | Lunessa | malreth: it is indeed, mildly ironic. |
| 19:05.29 | Ackis | http://blackenedbeast.deviantart.com/art/Smiling-Puppy-171155285 |
| 19:06.18 | mikma | that's almost as good as ozzy sitting in wax cabinet |
| 19:06.21 | amro | Ackis: that's awesome |
| 19:07.05 | malreth | Ackis: is that a portrait of tekkub? |
| 19:07.18 | malreth | wait... no... he's a bear. nvm |
| 19:10.25 | mikma | ackis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sY9PeJOZpeA :D |
| 19:11.07 | Morkesh | anyone at all been able to get on the european beta realm today? |
| 19:12.09 | kd3 | auth just came back up not too long ago |
| 19:12.20 | kd3 | swaps from lost isles to mekkatorque |
| 19:13.04 | kd3 | yup |
| 19:13.53 | Morkesh | hmm, still not working here kd3 |
| 19:16.59 | amro | ozzy is still around? |
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| 19:22.06 | cralor | I can't log in :*( |
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| 19:23.03 | Niv | battle.net is still down I see |
| 19:23.57 | cralor | Yeah |
| 19:24.01 | cralor | should be up tho... |
| 19:25.14 | cog|work | what's the patch today? |
| 19:25.22 | NightHawkTheSane | nicotine. |
| 19:25.23 | Satisfyme | em wOOt ?!? why was my addon moved from wowace to curseforge ? |
| 19:26.02 | cog|work | 'cause curse runs Ace... |
| 19:26.17 | Ackis | cog|work: they also run Curseforge :P |
| 19:26.31 | durcyn | wowace has, uh, not to be overly rude, but, well. standards. |
| 19:26.47 | Satisfyme | yeah I know that, but why didn't my other addon move over there then, when it was aproved ? |
| 19:30.33 | foxlit | The wowace/curseforge split is... odd. |
| 19:31.15 | durcyn | it makes sense in the context of its history, but yeah, it's a bit vestigial at this point. |
| 19:31.28 | nicoli_s | split? |
| 19:31.46 | Ackis | s/vestigial/elitism/ |
| 19:31.50 | Ackis | goes back to his corner. |
| 19:31.52 | durcyn | nicoli_s: the demarcation of legacy wowace contributors from the unwashed curseforge masses, obviously |
| 19:32.02 | Satisfyme | well it's not that I mind it, since the it's the same in the end |
| 19:32.36 | foxlit | I'm just annoyed they have different skin settings. |
| 19:32.51 | foxlit | wowace ocassionally blinds me with its bright colors |
| 19:33.00 | Ackis | foxlit: iirc you can manually change that |
| 19:33.09 | foxlit | Ackis: yes, which I did for cf |
| 19:33.18 | Fisker | [4725] Kane and Lynch Goodbye Kitty DLC |
| 19:34.25 | foxlit | heh, cf wants your battle.net email for a key. |
| 19:34.40 | alestane | So malreth, anywhere near Prefectural Road #263 yet? |
| 19:35.00 | kd3 | fox; they're handing it to blizz so they can do a cross-check iirc |
| 19:35.43 | foxlit | wowi didn't, iirc. |
| 19:36.43 | cralor | wowi just did keys |
| 19:36.52 | cralor | to flag your account |
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| 19:37.13 | malreth | alestane: who that wha that how now? |
| 19:37.52 | malreth | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sawara-ku,_Fukuoka |
| 19:39.24 | foxlit | hey, character copy is feeling better. |
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| 19:40.14 | alestane | The first direction after you finish kayaking across the Pacific is to turn toward Prefectural Route # 263. |
| 19:40.41 | cralor | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25578348169&sid=2000&pageNo=8#155 |
| 19:40.58 | foxlit | Mangle seems to hit for pathetic amounts :( |
| 19:41.58 | Niv | cralor: too bad it didn't help us |
| 19:42.05 | Lunessa | foxlit: Mangle is nerfed and tanking as a bear is ... odd right now. |
| 19:42.12 | foxlit | on live |
| 19:42.16 | malreth | alestane: yeah... congratulations... you've managed to completely confuse me. |
| 19:42.44 | alestane | Yeah, that's my fault. |
| 19:43.01 | alestane | I got confused about which online identity mapped toa particular Facebook account. |
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| 19:43.05 | malreth | i blame Fisker |
| 19:43.17 | NightHawkTheSane | I blame pants. |
| 19:43.18 | cralor | Niv: yeah, i know :( |
| 19:43.22 | alestane | I was actually looking for |Jelly|. |
| 19:43.29 | malreth | i'm 100% certain that i haven't friended you on the facebooks |
| 19:43.33 | cralor | it seems to be a WoWI key issue... =/ |
| 19:43.42 | alestane | Are you even on the facebooks? |
| 19:43.46 | malreth | i am |
| 19:43.59 | alestane | http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=44191889&id=23901388 , if you can see it. |
| 19:44.06 | malreth | but if you're on the twitters, you can find me @fizzboy |
| 19:44.15 | Niv | cralor: yep, hopefully Cairenn hears back from blizz |
| 19:44.25 | Lunessa | he posts more to the twiiter thing. |
| 19:44.48 | malreth | i post almost exclusively to twitter which x-posts over to facebook |
| 19:44.48 | Lunessa | If you're looking for me on Twitter I'm on there as @anothershoe |
| 19:45.33 | Ackis | protected tweets? |
| 19:45.43 | Lunessa | For now. |
| 19:46.27 | Ackis | but how can I tell if you're boring or not |
| 19:47.13 | Lunessa | I tend to say stuff like "Work is like an 800# gorilla on crack who really, really, really thinks I have all the bananas. " |
| 19:47.59 | Ackis | either way I'm following you |
| 19:48.08 | Ackis | I wonder if I can annoy you more than I annoy tekkub |
| 19:51.50 | Lopeppeppy | I like Captivate... it's just tedious darn work to educate sheeples. |
| 19:52.41 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Educating sheeples is a large part of my job. |
| 19:52.51 | Ackis | Googling "milk bags" to show someone how Canadians drink milk, is NSFW. |
| 19:53.04 | durcyn | oh dear. |
| 19:53.36 | Lunessa | Europeans drink milk out of bags which are not refrigerated until opned as well. |
| 19:54.01 | nicoli_s | we used to get those at school |
| 19:54.40 | Morkesh | no we don't Lunessa :P |
| 19:55.24 | Lunessa | Well, Spaniard and Italians do. I generalized. :P |
| 19:55.28 | Ackis | I've never drank out of a non-refrigerated bag of milk |
| 19:56.14 | Morkesh | i've tried non-refrigerated milk once, was a carton from Germany and it was UHT treated |
| 19:57.05 | Lunessa | Morkesh: UHT treated milk is common even here, but heaven help you if you try to sell it warm. |
| 19:57.32 | Shadowed | Treasure hunt question! |
| 19:57.32 | Lopeppeppy | I've bought boxed warm UHT milk, Lunessa. Used to use it for larping a lot. |
| 19:57.41 | Shadowed | Anyone remember an addon that added Aero type of animations to WoW? |
| 19:57.50 | Shadowed | Was released around Oct 09 |
| 19:57.53 | cbreak | what's aero? |
| 19:57.57 | Shadowed | Like you see in Windows |
| 19:58.04 | cbreak | bsod? |
| 19:58.10 | Shadowed | Window animations for opening/closing things |
| 19:58.25 | cbreak | I don't remember noticing that |
| 19:58.36 | Lunessa | Shadowed I recall it, but the name escapes me. It was on WoWI. |
| 19:58.45 | cbreak | don't remember a window animation addon either |
| 19:59.00 | Shadowed | Yea, pretty sure it was on WoWI before but can't find any mention to it Lunessa |
| 19:59.23 | Lunessa | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7641-VisualThemes.html |
| 19:59.38 | Lunessa | Same person wrote Dock |
| 20:00.04 | Shadowed | Same idea, although this isn't Ace2 |
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| 20:01.12 | Lunessa | This is the one I was thinking of, so if there was another, I'm not sure what it was. |
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| 20:02.37 | Lunessa | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info8206-Dock.html - the video for this is kind of cool. |
| 20:03.06 | foxlit | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZC74v4U2ng ? |
| 20:03.37 | Lunessa | Yeah. |
| 20:04.22 | Morkesh | god that's a cool addon |
| 20:04.22 | Niv | seems useless to me, but I hate docks in general |
| 20:05.06 | Lunessa | Well, hasn't been touched since 2008, so I doubt the code works very well right now. |
| 20:05.32 | Morkesh | well niv, i can't personally find much use for it myself either :P but it looks cool |
| 20:05.41 | Niv | heh |
| 20:05.43 | A-KO | http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/07/13/2010-07-13_michigan_mom_aimee_l_sword_sent_to_prison_after_having_sex_with_teen_son_she_gav.html < that's just sick :( |
| 20:06.05 | durcyn | thanks for sharing it, then. |
| 20:06.12 | A-KO | np |
| 20:07.06 | Lunessa | people are all kinds of messed up. |
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| 20:07.52 | alestane | I've seen sicker things. That probably wasn't healthy but at least it doesn't sound abusive. |
| 20:08.09 | Morkesh | doesn't sound like abuse in any way no |
| 20:08.11 | alestane | Very, anyway. |
| 20:08.32 | Morkesh | still sick but people abusing children are sicker |
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| 20:12.18 | Fisker | alestane |
| 20:12.22 | Fisker | i just maded you a fart |
| 20:12.30 | cbreak | whowhooo! 0 starcraft II games worldwide |
| 20:12.30 | alestane | But you eated it? |
| 20:12.51 | Fisker | i wish |
| 20:13.40 | alestane | Too cute for words: http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/olivercat.gif |
| 20:14.24 | Fisker | http://www.neowin.net/news/apple-deleting-consumer-reports-iphone-4-discussions <-sad trombone |
| 20:16.01 | Niv | battle.net is back up |
| 20:16.32 | Fisker | totally downs battle.net |
| 20:16.33 | Fisker | BAM |
| 20:17.05 | Niv | hehe |
| 20:17.09 | Niv | too bad I still can't log in! |
| 20:17.09 | Niv | :) |
| 20:17.23 | durcyn | nevcairiel: ping |
| 20:21.01 | Niv | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25968569687&sid=2000 |
| 20:21.11 | Niv | let's see what they say |
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| 20:22.23 | Fisker | Sounds odd that it would report login server outage |
| 20:22.50 | durcyn | how cute that the auth client is named grunt. |
| 20:23.25 | lowlee | Niv: thankfully someone can log onto a toon and report this :) - i can't even do that |
| 20:23.30 | Niv | you can now |
| 20:23.33 | Niv | or should be able to |
| 20:24.09 | lowlee | nope can't select a toon on the forums they are just blank tabs |
| 20:24.14 | Niv | and you copied? |
| 20:24.27 | lowlee | yup |
| 20:24.28 | Niv | I copied 4 times, it never reduced my copy count |
| 20:24.36 | durcyn | it will. |
| 20:24.36 | Niv | twice to each server |
| 20:24.50 | Niv | no worries if it does |
| 20:25.06 | nevcairiel | durcyn: pong |
| 20:25.59 | durcyn | did you still want that installer? |
| 20:26.16 | durcyn | can actualy pull it down now that bnet is up |
| 20:26.59 | Niv | if you guys can ping that post |
| 20:27.03 | Niv | you should :) |
| 20:27.23 | Maldivia | ohh, you should have said something, I have both enGB and enUS installer-downloaders :) |
| 20:27.26 | Niv | they tend to like to see posts from afflicted accounts for this error |
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| 20:29.32 | durcyn | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6734204/WOW_Cataclysm_Beta_enUS.exe |
| 20:29.53 | durcyn | SHA-1 should be 445cb23a88a3aad2fe1a1a682525f4f770f2455f |
| 20:31.49 | Maldivia | that doesn't match my installer exe |
| 20:32.37 | durcyn | i just grabbed it from the site, weird |
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| 20:32.47 | durcyn | are they generating unique installers per account? |
| 20:32.48 | Maldivia | I grabbed mine 3 hours ago |
| 20:32.55 | Industrial | mmorpg.com is this the best site with a list of MMO's that are current and upcoming? |
| 20:33.05 | durcyn | does that thing have my REAL ID EMBEDDED, HOLY ugh |
| 20:33.26 | Maldivia | durcyn: well, perhaps they changed the installer in the meantime ? |
| 20:33.31 | durcyn | doubtful |
| 20:33.36 | durcyn | i mean, it's the same torrent |
| 20:33.54 | Maldivia | well, I got another exe this time |
| 20:33.57 | durcyn | and the same build, 11927 |
| 20:34.21 | durcyn | i don't see any obvious identifying strings, either |
| 20:34.50 | durcyn | also, it appears to be using Flash. |
| 20:35.41 | Maldivia | 35 bytes are different in the two exes I've downloaded today from battle.net |
| 20:36.08 | vithos | i believe they are "watermarked" |
| 20:36.13 | vithos | but i'm not in beta |
| 20:36.44 | nevcairiel | durcyn: wasnt me, i have it |
| 20:36.55 | vithos | i've just heard second hand elsewhere |
| 20:37.08 | Niv | I doubt it |
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| 20:37.16 | durcyn | well, it's not a plaintext watermark, also, what would be the point |
| 20:37.29 | Niv | considering you can pull it straight from the torrent |
| 20:37.31 | Niv | it's unlikely |
| 20:38.00 | vithos | then maybe the downloader has an expiration time built in |
| 20:38.05 | vithos | idk |
| 20:38.11 | Niv | or maybe, one of the downloads was bad |
| 20:38.28 | Niv | did you md5 both? |
| 20:39.16 | vithos | compare them with a binary diff tool |
| 20:39.31 | vithos | like BeyondCompare (not free) |
| 20:40.04 | Maldivia | durcyn: at offset 0x282D18 into the file, 35 bytes were changed, which looks like a watermark |
| 20:40.10 | vithos | 35 bytes is a lot for a timestamp |
| 20:40.20 | Maldivia | well, it looks like a hash |
| 20:40.27 | Lunessa | They want to know who's leaking that shit. |
| 20:40.33 | Maldivia | it's all values in the ascii range for 0-9, a-f :) |
| 20:40.44 | vithos | ah |
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| 20:41.55 | Maldivia | that would also explain why the installer doesn't have a digital signature :P |
| 20:42.23 | durcyn | vithos: they do 'expiration' with torrent protocol, though |
| 20:43.53 | Shadowed | Tetris! |
| 20:43.56 | Shadowed | Anyone know of a tetris addon? |
| 20:44.12 | Niv | I've never looked |
| 20:44.14 | Shadowed | Looks like http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw41433.jpg |
| 20:44.26 | NightHawkTheSane | tetris' Shadowed's mom. |
| 20:44.39 | malreth | ~lart NightHawkTheSane |
| 20:44.39 | purl | eats NightHawkTheSane's liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti |
| 20:44.58 | NightHawkTheSane | ... not my liver, i need that for boozing! |
| 20:45.14 | Maldivia | vithos: and as for compare, fc /b :) |
| 20:45.32 | Niv | oh nice, someone with a non-wowi key is having hte same problem |
| 20:45.50 | Warloco | o_o |
| 20:45.57 | Niv | and 3 different region clients |
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| 20:46.04 | Niv | enUS, enGB, enFR |
| 20:46.16 | foxlit | enFR, teehee |
| 20:46.18 | Lunessa | NHTS: Me too. My liver is all that stands between me and Cirrhosis. |
| 20:46.21 | Warloco | are more wow-i keys coming btw? |
| 20:46.25 | Niv | er |
| 20:46.27 | Niv | frFR |
| 20:46.29 | Niv | tired |
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| 20:51.51 | foxlit | Hm, I wonder. |
| 20:52.00 | foxlit | Takes ages to connecto to that IP/port with telnet |
| 20:52.04 | foxlit | yet error is instant |
| 20:52.17 | foxlit | Find someone who *can* log in and have them post their log? |
| 20:52.23 | Niv | foxlit: yea, I noticed that this morning |
| 20:52.35 | Niv | let me see if I can get that |
| 20:52.58 | foxlit | I wonder if wow knocks or something. |
| 20:53.01 | Ressy | Are you having problem connecting to a realm, or in general? |
| 20:53.13 | Niv | beta |
| 20:53.18 | Ressy | yeah? |
| 20:53.21 | foxlit | In general |
| 20:53.26 | foxlit | It errors out before validating password. |
| 20:53.33 | foxlit | Or even account name. |
| 20:53.37 | Ressy | hm |
| 20:54.46 | Ressy | Have ports open? |
| 20:55.02 | Niv | it's not anything like that |
| 20:55.12 | Niv | it's a wide spread problem with recent keys |
| 20:55.16 | Ressy | OH |
| 20:55.24 | Ressy | its an issue with the cache |
| 20:55.26 | Morkesh | Niv: enFR, canada you say? :P |
| 20:55.35 | Ressy | enFR is france. |
| 20:55.50 | Morkesh | haha :P would think english french would be canada ;P and frFR france |
| 20:56.09 | Niv | frFR |
| 20:56.10 | Niv | it was a typo |
| 20:56.25 | Niv | ok |
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| 20:56.29 | Niv | I have a successful login |
| 20:56.32 | Niv | spam inc |
| 20:56.34 | Athox | hi all |
| 20:56.37 | foxlit | don't |
| 20:56.40 | foxlit | http://pastey.net |
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| 20:56.52 | Niv | I was kidding |
| 20:56.53 | Niv | :P |
| 20:57.12 | Ressy | There was a fix for this on the TS live boards.. lemme find it. |
| 20:57.46 | Niv | http://pastey.net/138554 |
| 20:57.52 | Niv | ^-- successful login |
| 20:58.10 | Morkesh | sweet :o |
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| 20:59.18 | Morkesh | what kind of dark sorcery did you use niv? |
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| 21:02.18 | foxlit | Niv: what's fun is that it's not necessarily tied to a key -- insert absolutely bogus data |
| 21:02.24 | foxlit | It'll still error. |
| 21:02.49 | Niv | it might just be that the accounts need a different flag to talk to the right auth server, and new accounts default to something broken |
| 21:03.11 | Morkesh | could be |
| 21:03.32 | Morkesh | wouldn't be surprised if we by mistake were given F&F keys or similar outdated ones |
| 21:03.36 | Niv | but we're just making wild ass guesses at this point |
| 21:03.41 | Maldivia | well, the auth server is in the client's config files |
| 21:03.50 | Niv | I know a couple people who were in F&F |
| 21:03.52 | Niv | and they can still login |
| 21:03.57 | Niv | that connection log is from one of them :) |
| 21:04.02 | Niv | they were not given keys |
| 21:04.14 | Niv | they gave their bnet emails, and they were activated |
| 21:04.19 | Ressy | I was in F&F. I'm still able to login fine. |
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| 21:04.19 | Maldivia | yeah, F&F and beta accouns were just flagged |
| 21:04.23 | Morkesh | i've slept 2 hours since yesterday niv, it's my right to make wild guesses |
| 21:04.29 | Niv | hah |
| 21:04.31 | Niv | nothing wrong with it |
| 21:04.40 | Niv | I'm just saying we're missing critical data to really have a clue :) |
| 21:04.52 | Maldivia | Niv: tried clearing your bnet cahe? |
| 21:04.54 | Maldivia | cache* |
| 21:04.58 | Odlaw | wait, so the author keys arn't able login? that explains things.. |
| 21:05.01 | lowlee | can someone who can currently log in post their realmlist.wtf? |
| 21:05.08 | Niv | lowlee: it's the same |
| 21:05.09 | Niv | I checked |
| 21:05.14 | Morkesh | there's more keys odlaw, someone who don't have an author key have the same issue |
| 21:05.23 | Odlaw | hmm |
| 21:05.25 | Niv | it's basically, the latested batch of keys |
| 21:05.27 | lowlee | ok Niv :) |
| 21:05.28 | Niv | as best as I can tell |
| 21:05.35 | Morkesh | sounds reasonable niv :p |
| 21:05.43 | Odlaw | was in the 51-100 batch on wowi |
| 21:05.44 | mascondante | I've got a off-topic question but it's been driving me nuts trying to find the answer. How do I structure a user name when logging into another workgroup computer? I've tried username, computername\username, and workgroupname\username. I've got an account set up on the other computers so I can access \\computername\c$ and run dameware. |
| 21:05.47 | Niv | fwiw, the curse keys have the same problem |
| 21:05.56 | Ressy | "set realmlist public-beta.logon.battle.net |
| 21:05.56 | Ressy | set patchlist us.version.worldofwarcraft.com |
| 21:05.56 | Ressy | set realmlistbn "" |
| 21:05.56 | Ressy | set portal public-beta |
| 21:05.56 | Ressy | " |
| 21:05.56 | Maldivia | Niv: what OS ? |
| 21:06.02 | Niv | Maldivia: both Mac and PC |
| 21:06.09 | Niv | even did fresh installs on each to rule it out |
| 21:06.19 | cralor | oh wait |
| 21:06.19 | Maldivia | Niv: tried clearing the b.net cache? |
| 21:06.34 | Niv | I didn't, someone one else did and said it didn't work |
| 21:06.38 | Niv | that's about the only thing I didn't try |
| 21:06.47 | Niv | let me try it on my PC real fast |
| 21:06.55 | Maldivia | Niv: C:\Users\{user}\AppData\Local\Blizzard Entertainment\Battle.net\Cache |
| 21:06.57 | Niv | yep |
| 21:07.12 | Niv | it's nice that the beta opens of RDC :) |
| 21:07.20 | mascondante | If anyone helps I'll be estatic. I've been having a hell of a time finding anything on google |
| 21:07.50 | Morkesh | blasted, my arena partner finally came online after connecting issues all day (on live that is) then just before i queue his donkey or whatever is keeping his net running dies |
| 21:08.04 | Niv | Maldivia: no dice |
| 21:08.33 | Maldivia | Niv: ohh well, I just know the cache has caused a lot of login issued during the alpha |
| 21:08.41 | lowlee | yeah clearing the cache was one of the first things i did last night :( |
| 21:08.42 | Niv | yea |
| 21:09.08 | Ressy | Battle.net cache is separate from wow cache tho. |
| 21:09.14 | Niv | that was just the only thing I didn't bother with, because I searched through a bunch of posts from this on live, and it was suggested, but never worked for anyone |
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| 21:09.53 | Maldivia | Ressy: hence the posting of path on a windows vista/7 :) |
| 21:10.44 | cralor | Niv: i can't even log into the forums |
| 21:10.51 | cralor | but there is someone who seems to have connected |
| 21:10.57 | Niv | who? |
| 21:10.59 | lowlee | Yeah I cleared both caches :) bnet and wow one |
| 21:11.03 | cralor | replied on your thread |
| 21:11.14 | Niv | you mean my log? |
| 21:11.22 | Niv | or the person who has been in beta for months |
| 21:11.51 | lowlee | nah Schoal on the thread states his friend can log in |
| 21:12.16 | lowlee | and said friend got a WoWI key too |
| 21:12.19 | cralor | idk someone said "i got mine monday night. when did you guys get yours?" |
| 21:12.28 | cralor | beta forums. your thread you made |
| 21:12.42 | cralor | said it like it was working for him |
| 21:12.46 | lowlee | thats the non wowi key guy |
| 21:12.54 | lowlee | frFR guy |
| 21:13.25 | cralor | oh ok |
| 21:13.40 | Morkesh | i can't pick a character to post on the forums with even :( |
| 21:13.51 | Morkesh | moved my main and an alt of mine there and they show up as successfull |
| 21:14.51 | lowlee | same here Morkesh - there is a thread on live tech support forums for people like us too ;P - http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25969019792&sid=1 |
| 21:14.54 | cralor | "All of the press keys seem to have been mailed out on Monday so it seems to be a problem with this batch of keys (both press and WoWinterface). I've contacted beta support directly and will let you know if I get a response" |
| 21:17.12 | Morkesh | cralor: something Cairenn said or? |
| 21:17.23 | cralor | someone posted on WoWI boards |
| 21:17.32 | cralor | and said he got his from Press |
| 21:17.45 | Morkesh | arh |
| 21:18.38 | nicoli_s | i got my press key last week and it works just fine |
| 21:18.48 | cralor | :S |
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| 21:20.36 | Niv | you know |
| 21:20.36 | Niv | oh |
| 21:20.36 | Niv | nm |
| 21:20.43 | Niv | I was going to suggest that it might be that all key based access has been broken |
| 21:20.47 | Niv | but that debunks that ;) |
| 21:22.19 | Ressy | The copying files from battle.net cache to your wow cache didn't work? |
| 21:22.29 | Niv | huh? |
| 21:22.30 | nevcairiel | do we have a EU Alliance dev guild yet? |
| 21:22.45 | cralor | I've tried EVERYTHING that thread suggests |
| 21:23.26 | Morkesh | why would anyone play alliance nevcairiel? :P |
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| 21:24.21 | Niv | or in the EU |
| 21:24.22 | Niv | ;) |
| 21:24.30 | Sesshu | hi guys |
| 21:24.33 | Morkesh | but then again, might make a premade alliance for the heck of it if there's no horde guild |
| 21:25.00 | Morkesh | well niv, for one, we usually avoid the bugs you guys have to suffer under because of the delay in patching :P |
| 21:25.24 | Niv | hehe |
| 21:25.32 | Niv | there's a reason I don't raid tuesdays |
| 21:26.00 | Morkesh | oh, is your realms down monday-tueday or? |
| 21:26.07 | Morkesh | tuesday* pardon my sleepiness |
| 21:27.05 | Niv | ours is down monday ~midnight to tuesday ~noon in theory |
| 21:27.15 | Niv | but tuesday patch days are a mess |
| 21:27.56 | Morkesh | arh |
| 21:28.04 | Morkesh | in europe it's tuesday-wednesday |
| 21:28.10 | Morkesh | so realms will go down sometime tonight |
| 21:28.20 | Niv | ok |
| 21:28.27 | Niv | so now we have confirmation that one person is working |
| 21:28.46 | lowlee | 2 |
| 21:28.52 | Niv | that's the same person |
| 21:28.52 | lowlee | actually |
| 21:28.58 | lowlee | oh ok :P |
| 21:29.12 | Niv | we know that cralor was tracking ID #1 |
| 21:29.16 | Niv | so I'm curious what theirs was ;) |
| 21:29.34 | Maldivia | uhhh... beta maintenance... talent patch??? |
| 21:29.39 | Niv | who was it in here that had not copied characters, but couldn't log in? |
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| 21:29.47 | Niv | Maldivia: did they announce? |
| 21:29.48 | lowlee | better not be 78 or 80 or I will /cry |
| 21:29.53 | Maldivia | http://www.worldofraids.com/wow-blue-tracker/us-forums/25969519921-beta-maintenance-7-13-2010.html |
| 21:29.59 | Niv | nice |
| 21:30.22 | Niv | could be that, or this? :) |
| 21:30.47 | lowlee | hopefully its both :P |
| 21:30.48 | cralor | yeah... I was going to say =/ |
| 21:30.50 | Lunessa | Niv, that's usuall what they say right before a major beta patch |
| 21:31.04 | Niv | yea |
| 21:31.10 | nevcairiel | yay the talent patch |
| 21:31.26 | Niv | so that's in like 15 mins |
| 21:31.34 | Niv | cross your fingers that they get both :) |
| 21:32.37 | Morkesh | get both as in fix the key issue aswell? :P |
| 21:32.53 | Niv | beta is currently not tied into RealID on live right? |
| 21:33.32 | nevcairiel | no, it doesnt have any 3.3.5 UI changes yet |
| 21:33.38 | nevcairiel | maybe thats being merged now as well |
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| 21:33.49 | Niv | that could explain some things |
| 21:34.37 | Ressy | server shutdown |
| 21:34.42 | Niv | hehe |
| 21:34.44 | Niv | yep |
| 21:34.50 | Niv | well cool |
| 21:34.59 | nevcairiel | at least i can sleep in peace then |
| 21:34.59 | Maldivia | hmm, lets see, 31p talents, deepholm, the new instance, and level increase |
| 21:35.00 | nevcairiel | good nite :P |
| 21:35.04 | Niv | haha |
| 21:35.27 | nevcairiel | I'm not sure they are increasing the level yet |
| 21:35.37 | Niv | It would be nice |
| 21:35.49 | nevcairiel | I'm still 80, so what do i care |
| 21:35.50 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 21:36.02 | Niv | haha |
| 21:36.07 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: it was heavily hinted last week |
| 21:36.35 | Niv | I wonder if they'll just bump to 83 |
| 21:36.39 | Ressy | they dont usually push beta patches on tues tho.. usually thurs. |
| 21:37.01 | nevcairiel | its actually wednesday in 30 minutes |
| 21:37.07 | nevcairiel | hides under his european rock |
| 21:37.20 | lowlee | its been wednesday for 7.5 hrs :P |
| 21:37.24 | Maldivia | considering their other announcement today :) |
| 21:38.01 | Ressy | more invites |
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| 21:40.06 | Ithato | Howdy everyone, is anyone with a WowInterface key currently able to access the Beta? or are you all still getting Login Server errors? |
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| 21:40.23 | Niv | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25968569687&sid=2000 |
| 21:40.34 | Maldivia | Ithato: server shutdown in 6 mins, so :) |
| 21:40.44 | Niv | interesting |
| 21:40.46 | Niv | so the person who can login |
| 21:40.52 | Niv | is tracking ID ~140 |
| 21:40.57 | nevcairiel | I was able to login about an hour ago |
| 21:41.00 | nevcairiel | tracking 9 |
| 21:41.08 | Niv | so now you chime in! |
| 21:41.08 | nevcairiel | anyway, night now! |
| 21:41.13 | Niv | did you copy a character? |
| 21:41.24 | Odlaw | cant (69) |
| 21:41.25 | nevcairiel | yes |
| 21:41.27 | Ithato | I did, and i'm tracking number 45 |
| 21:41.35 | nevcairiel | 2, actually |
| 21:41.38 | nevcairiel | also created a worgen |
| 21:41.42 | Niv | so really it's random |
| 21:41.49 | Ithato | copied two, copied two premades as well |
| 21:41.50 | Niv | did you make the worgen first? |
| 21:41.52 | nevcairiel | maybe location based, shrug |
| 21:42.00 | durcyn | it's more likely to do with the time of day you activated the key |
| 21:42.04 | Niv | post #2 and #3 are both EU folks |
| 21:42.22 | Ithato | durcyn: mine was yesterday evening around 8pm EST |
| 21:42.28 | nevcairiel | I logged in, created worgen, then the game crashed and i went to the page copying things |
| 21:42.48 | nevcairiel | but doubt character creation matters |
| 21:43.13 | Niv | yea, I can pretty much confirm that |
| 21:43.14 | nevcairiel | anyway, gone now! |
| 21:43.23 | Niv | it doesn't work on an account with no copies |
| 21:44.02 | Odlaw | there was a post on wowi forums about someone not copying toons and unable to login |
| 21:44.20 | Fisker | did they resend those invites or what? |
| 21:44.31 | Ackis | Fisker: http://i32.tinypic.com/mcyijn.jpg |
| 21:44.45 | Niv | Odlaw: I can confirm that behavior |
| 21:44.52 | Fisker | i know your account names now Ackis |
| 21:45.03 | Ackis | Fisker: oh noes |
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| 21:46.27 | Fisker | so confirmed beta patch or wat? |
| 21:46.35 | Maldivia | confirmed maintenance |
| 21:46.57 | alestane | That often turns out to be patch. |
| 21:47.08 | Maldivia | well, so far, it's always turned out to be a patch |
| 21:47.14 | durcyn | it's almost like the thing's under active development. |
| 21:47.17 | durcyn | fuckin' weird. |
| 21:48.01 | Morkesh | haha :p |
| 21:48.03 | Maldivia | but weo should find out in an hour or so if there's a patch |
| 21:49.13 | Morkesh | my impression so far of cataclysm is that the true challenge til be beating the login server, to do so you must gather patches |
| 21:49.48 | Morkesh | so we'll probably see top end guilds move to sweden for a fast connection, which could be vital to get a world first on that bastard of a login screen |
| 21:49.53 | Odlaw | i am already at 7/7 patches. the quest giver won't let me turn them in. |
| 21:49.59 | Niv | rars up his beta install in case the patch kills it again |
| 21:50.15 | Morkesh | good idea |
| 21:50.32 | Maldivia | Morkesh: well, considering Finland just made it a human rigth to have 100Mbit, I would suggest Finland instead |
| 21:50.59 | Morkesh | haha :P |
| 21:51.18 | Morkesh | suddenly, casual guilds formed at universities will be rank #1 in the world |
| 21:52.04 | Maldivia | ok, the 100Mbit is by 2015, but still |
| 21:52.20 | Morkesh | i miss my 15/8 :( |
| 21:52.24 | Morkesh | on 8/4 now |
| 21:52.29 | Niv | 20/20 here |
| 21:52.37 | Niv | coworker just got 100/100 for $60/month |
| 21:52.40 | Niv | bastard |
| 21:52.44 | Morkesh | damn :P |
| 21:53.02 | Niv | http://condointernet.net/ |
| 21:53.06 | Ackis | pve or pvp server folks? |
| 21:53.15 | Niv | I went pvp |
| 21:53.19 | Ithato | pve here, i play on pvp live |
| 21:53.24 | Niv | but have copies pve just in case |
| 21:53.29 | Morkesh | hmm, i had 1 server to pick |
| 21:53.39 | Niv | at least last night, you seemed to not really have a limit on copies |
| 21:53.54 | Maldivia | If you want to get ganked/killed why filling out a quest feedback, choose PvP, otherwise PvE |
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| 21:54.07 | Niv | or if you want to fall asleep while playing |
| 21:54.09 | Niv | choose pve |
| 21:54.09 | Niv | ;) |
| 21:54.35 | Maldivia | did Hyjal, and if you stand still to do feedback, you die... |
| 21:55.03 | Niv | alliance then? |
| 21:55.04 | Niv | ;) |
| 21:55.04 | Morkesh | are EU meant to have 2 choices aswell? |
| 21:55.10 | Niv | Morkesh: doubtful |
| 21:55.12 | Niv | but not sure |
| 21:55.14 | Morkesh | good good |
| 21:55.31 | Maldivia | at the moment there's US-PvP, US-PvE, EU, Kr |
| 21:55.52 | Ackis | you know, the best part about the beta? |
| 21:56.03 | Niv | that you can't log in? |
| 21:56.04 | Maldivia | getting a Kr tank for BRC? |
| 21:56.08 | Ackis | it's letting people who aren't in the beta know you're in the beta |
| 21:56.12 | Ackis | right Fisker? |
| 21:56.13 | Morkesh | hahaha :D |
| 21:56.15 | Morkesh | indeed! |
| 21:56.15 | Niv | haha |
| 21:56.48 | Ackis | I wonder if my SC2/cata beta icons will go bye bye when the beta expires |
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| 21:57.22 | durcyn | heh, the content of the subscription cancellation includes such amazing responses as "Will of the Forsaken Nerf", "Offline play not available", and "All of my friends quit playing" |
| 21:57.24 | nicoli_s | yeah ackis |
| 21:57.28 | Morkesh | another good thing about the realms being down is that instead of idling in dalaran or doing similar shit, i've been chatting here and doing AH, earnt 5k so far |
| 22:00.51 | NeoTron | I must admit I still don't really see any benefits of pvp servers. it's a bit more annoying no big difference... but on the beta, I guess it's useful if you want to test ganking or being ganked.. |
| 22:05.45 | Shirik_ | btw eidolarr I found out what caused that privileged instruction exception |
| 22:05.51 | Fisker | i hope so Ackis |
| 22:06.21 | Shirik_ | seems like a compiler bug, the compiler decided not to build some object files which needed to be rebuilt, and the linker linked them together not realizing that they were totally incompatible |
| 22:06.26 | Shirik_ | and then everything went to hell |
| 22:06.38 | Niv | NeoTron: it's certainly less exciting because of LFD |
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| 22:07.02 | eidolarr | ah yeah, that's annoying as hell, especially when some leftover object files from, say, release mode mess with your debug build |
| 22:07.28 | eidolarr | one of those first things you should check that often result in an hour of debugging yuor correct code |
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| 22:08.17 | Shirik_ | I caught it pretty early thanks to my code coverage explorer |
| 22:08.22 | Shirik_ | it was basically going "wtf is this crap" |
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| 22:08.55 | eidolarr | are you using visual studio? |
| 22:09.24 | Maldivia | and we have a patch :P |
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| 22:11.24 | Shirik_ | yes using visual studio |
| 22:11.36 | Shirik_ | but I use Bullseye for code coverage |
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| 22:11.59 | alestane | Off of a download, Maldivia, or info somewhere? |
| 22:12.25 | eidolarr | I wish Eclipse sucked less at C/C++ |
| 22:13.02 | Ackis | CanadaAckis won 11 achievements in LEGO Batman for 274 points |
| 22:13.02 | Niv | eclipse just sucks |
| 22:13.19 | Dashkal | eidolarr: Agreed. Eclipse does java well, but I've yet to see it do anything else well... |
| 22:13.22 | Kraps | Breaking Dawn is better |
| 22:13.31 | eidolarr | eclipse is cool for java, though i prefer emacs |
| 22:13.35 | Pneumatus | not for java, Niv |
| 22:13.42 | eidolarr | the C kind of seems like a big hack though |
| 22:13.46 | Dashkal | emacs == much too high of a learning curve for me |
| 22:13.54 | eidolarr | vi too? |
| 22:14.00 | Pneumatus | eclipse is pretty decent for PHP also |
| 22:14.00 | Dashkal | I use vim for haskell |
| 22:14.15 | nicoli_s | VS ftw |
| 22:14.17 | Dashkal | or gedit if I'm making quick changes (intuitive mouse copy-paste is handy for quick edits) |
| 22:14.21 | eidolarr | I thought emacs was easier than vim when I was starting |
| 22:14.33 | eidolarr | because insert mode not being on by default led to plentiful wtfs |
| 22:14.46 | Dashkal | What sold me on vim was the tutorial program thingy that made me perform every action |
| 22:14.55 | durcyn | emacs users are no longer human at this point |
| 22:15.05 | Dashkal | Not just memorizing, but one at a time "do this, do that" |
| 22:15.08 | eidolarr | emacs has that too it's just less obvious how to start it |
| 22:15.11 | Maldivia | alestane: download :P |
| 22:15.15 | Dashkal | mmm, that was enough |
| 22:15.17 | Kraps | "The fact that our message addressed individuals' concerns with respect to their privacy underscores how truly disappointing a mistake this was on our part." |
| 22:15.23 | alestane | Hasn't started for me yet.\ |
| 22:15.27 | Kraps | laughs really hard |
| 22:15.34 | Dashkal | I refuse to get into an editor war, though. THe othger reason was I had already learned vi basics from working with some very VERY tiny distros. |
| 22:15.46 | eidolarr | yeah vi is everywhere |
| 22:16.02 | eidolarr | I have toyed with the idea of learning vi keybinds,w hich I hear are awsome, then using viper in emacs |
| 22:16.03 | Dashkal | But until I took that tutorial, vim was just too bloddy arcane. |
| 22:16.09 | Niv | heh |
| 22:16.18 | alestane | Yeah, all I get is offline realms. |
| 22:16.29 | Dashkal | It still feels like I'm invoking magical incantations whenevr I do something not immediately simple. |
| 22:16.36 | Thrae | http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=oldspice#p/u/32/uLTIowBF0kE <-- my manhood feels threatened by saying I find this commercial well-done and his responses to random posters funny. |
| 22:16.42 | ccox | vi is everywhere... like ants and roaches |
| 22:16.45 | Maldivia | alestane: build no 12479 |
| 22:16.56 | Dashkal | but but but... d5d 10<down> p is so handy when you need it. |
| 22:17.00 | alestane | I'm not disputing it, just I can't get it yet. |
| 22:17.05 | ccox | some things are too tiny and pervasive to be stamped out |
| 22:17.11 | eidolarr | yeah sometimes the keys are so obscure you wonder why you bother, but then going to an editor without them sucks |
| 22:17.22 | lowlee | Maldivia: Did you get it through the Launcher or by logging in? |
| 22:17.33 | Maldivia | I took the backdoor :) |
| 22:17.39 | lowlee | or that :P |
| 22:18.06 | Maldivia | adys, patch, build no 12479 |
| 22:18.18 | lowlee | how big is it? |
| 22:18.29 | nicoli_s | welcome Adys |
| 22:18.30 | Fisker | launcher running yet etc? |
| 22:18.32 | Adys | i know Maldivia |
| 22:18.33 | nicoli_s | got internets again? |
| 22:18.34 | Maldivia | about 310mv |
| 22:18.35 | Dashkal | eidolarr: I have that complaint all the time when I fire up a basic editor now. What? esc-:-%s/foo/bar/ doesn't work? |
| 22:18.36 | Maldivia | mb* |
| 22:18.39 | Adys | came all the way here for that |
| 22:18.40 | Adys | :p |
| 22:18.42 | Niv | Maldivia: snag the torrent? |
| 22:18.55 | Dashkal | Still looks like an incantation when I type it out like that, but it's super quick when I don't think about it |
| 22:19.05 | eidolarr | Dashkal: yeah and then if I have to use the mouse i start cursing |
| 22:19.34 | Mirrormn | Thrae: I like the Body Blocker commercials better |
| 22:20.00 | Dashkal | Yeah, I use the mouse only for copy-pasta. Which prety much only comes up when dealing with PHP or Java. |
| 22:20.34 | Niv | yank ftw |
| 22:20.43 | eidolarr | yeah haha |
| 22:20.49 | eidolarr | I love the regex search too |
| 22:20.59 | eidolarr | some other editors have that but i've never learned their variations on its syntax |
| 22:21.46 | Dashkal | I like regex for searching, but tend to hate it otherwise. write-only code isn't my idea of fun to maintain. |
| 22:22.22 | Fisker | give patch mirror |
| 22:22.32 | eidolarr | it definitely gets overdone but used responsibly and with reasonable commenting it's same as any other code |
| 22:24.30 | Pneumatus | i wish np++ had multi-line regex for search-replace, i hate having to use eclipse for that when i wouldnt normally be using it :< |
| 22:24.49 | eidolarr | does scite? |
| 22:26.13 | Pneumatus | idk, in np++ though you can only have regex or extended chars (\n, etc) for search critera, not both |
| 22:26.30 | Dashkal | I consider regex an example of too-concise. It gets so dense it becomes near impossible to read from its code. Necessitating a large comment to describe what it matches. yech. These days I'd rather just write a Parsec parser and know I'll be able to read the code itself again later. |
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| 22:27.51 | Morkesh | goodnight guys, completely wasted :P |
| 22:27.56 | Morkesh | will cya tommorow |
| 22:30.49 | kd3 | looks at http://www.wowwiki.com/File:Mount_Hyjal_quests_flowchart.jpg and sighs |
| 22:32.45 | Kraps | y so sigh kd3? |
| 22:33.02 | Kraps | i think its fine |
| 22:33.09 | kd3 | too much line criss-crossing |
| 22:33.32 | NeoTron | but you have flying mounts |
| 22:33.37 | Adys | HAHAHA: http://kotaku.com/5585451/people-complaining-about-blizzards-real-id-have-their-email-addresses-exposed |
| 22:33.39 | NeoTron | have to make the zonehave some sort of size |
| 22:33.57 | Kraps | Adys: old |
| 22:34.11 | Kraps | Adys: http://www.wow.com/2010/07/13/esrb-issues-apology-over-email-leak/ |
| 22:34.31 | Adys | Kraps: what your mom said when i told her about you being asexual |
| 22:35.30 | Kraps | Adys: too wordy |
| 22:35.39 | Kalroth | Kraps: thats what she said |
| 22:36.03 | Kraps | justin bieber |
| 22:39.11 | Kraps | Tyrande: But Illidan's so bishi! And so very stable! And I love every boy! |
| 22:39.32 | Kraps | kd3: you are one crazy somabitch |
| 22:40.10 | kd3 | oh I know. I also fail at counting. >.< |
| 22:42.45 | Kraps | Gilneas is part of kalimdor wut |
| 22:42.58 | kd3 | it isn't, but the quest direction lends itself to that |
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| 22:43.19 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:44.18 | Maldivia | ugh - these spec-specific spells is going to cause an uproar :P |
| 22:44.32 | ckknight | Maldivia: hmm? |
| 22:44.56 | Kraps | so Vashj'ir is 3 zones? |
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| 22:45.00 | kd3 | yes |
| 22:45.03 | Maldivia | the new 31p talent specilization "perks" |
| 22:45.14 | Kraps | Maldivia: old |
| 22:45.32 | Maldivia | Kraps: well, I have a list of the perks now :P |
| 22:45.37 | kd3 | it's huge. a good dragonblight and a half |
| 22:45.55 | Kraps | the snuck them in during the realid uproar so no one noticed :p |
| 22:46.12 | Maldivia | Kraps: as I foretold they would :) |
| 22:46.14 | Adys | realid was a big cover to hide spec-only spells |
| 22:46.58 | Adys | ATVI loses 6 points, but at least the class forums are fine |
| 22:48.04 | Kraps | i like the new talent system, if only because its something different |
| 22:49.01 | Lunessa | Thrae: The one where he answers his own tweet is hilarious. |
| 22:49.30 | Maldivia | Kraps: what class/spec do you usually play? |
| 22:49.57 | Thrae | Lunessa: Link? |
| 22:50.38 | Lunessa | Thrae: http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=oldspice#p/u/20/u-qpEUOtLk8 |
| 22:51.09 | cbreak | arcane frost hybrid ftw |
| 22:51.14 | Kraps | Maldivia: i started with a prot warrior, i still kinda consider it my main, but i play my disc priest mostly now |
| 22:52.02 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3 (~kd3@wikia/kaydeethree) |
| 22:52.14 | cog|work | If you think peopleofwalmart.com is a dating site, you might be a redneck |
| 22:52.18 | Shadowed | The crazy part of old spice are the fact that they do it in one take |
| 22:53.31 | Maldivia | Kraps: ok, as a disc priest you get penance, meditation and a pushback resistance |
| 22:54.06 | Kraps | fail at the last one |
| 22:54.21 | Kraps | they should just remove it |
| 22:54.30 | ScytheBlade1 | so while they try and fix my connection, comcast took my line from $60/mo to $20/mo and from 12mbit down to 16mbit down |
| 22:54.52 | cbreak | only 16mbit? |
| 22:55.05 | ScytheBlade1 | dunno if docsis 3.0 is available here |
| 22:55.23 | cbreak | I currently have 25 and will upgrade to 50 soon |
| 22:55.24 | ScytheBlade1 | they say it is, but as I'm closing 4mbit down anyway, the point is moot |
| 22:55.32 | ScytheBlade1 | *closing on |
| 22:56.42 | *** join/#wowuidev A-KO (as@c-68-33-146-13.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 22:56.42 | *** join/#wowuidev A-KO (as@unaffiliated/a-ko) |
| 22:56.48 | Lunessa | SBO - Business Class? |
| 22:56.53 | ScytheBlade1 | residential |
| 22:57.04 | kd3 | hm... wru new build? |
| 22:57.06 | kd3 | grrs |
| 22:57.12 | *** join/#wowuidev Kirkburn (~Kirkburn@wikia/Kirkburn) |
| 22:57.16 | ScytheBlade1 | http://dev.averageurl.com/cc/viewer.html |
| 22:57.33 | ScytheBlade1 | scroll over to 19:20, 11:40, and 16:00 |
| 22:57.40 | ScytheBlade1 | tell me if you see any gaps that would indicate no connection |
| 22:57.40 | ScytheBlade1 | :( |
| 22:57.41 | Maldivia | kd3: looking at it right now :P |
| 22:57.50 | Lunessa | Comcast's "Business Class" service has bandwidth and up-time guarantees, but ranges around $150+ / month |
| 22:58.00 | ScytheBlade1 | probably not worth it |
| 22:58.13 | ScytheBlade1 | from what I've been told by colleagues, some DSL around here will pull 24mbit no problem |
| 22:58.31 | kd3 | what's the new build number? |
| 22:58.34 | cbreak | the most we can get is 100mbit down, but that's quite expensive |
| 22:58.36 | Thrae | Ouch. I have Verizon's Business-class FiOS for $70/month at guarunteed 25/25mbit. |
| 22:58.42 | Kirkburn | Oh, we are down for a new beta build? |
| 22:58.45 | Adys | kd3: 12479 iirc |
| 22:59.00 | Kirkburn | And I was just getting started in Redridge :( |
| 22:59.05 | Kirkburn | Adys! Hello |
| 22:59.06 | kd3 | ah. my script was only checking up 100 builds or so |
| 22:59.07 | cbreak | still haven't downloaded 12319... |
| 22:59.10 | Adys | ohai Kirkburn |
| 22:59.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Thrae: annoying fact: my state has municiple fiber, already in the ground, in every city surrounding me. My city opted out. |
| 22:59.14 | Adys | i dont see you around here |
| 22:59.15 | erikd | hopes for the talent tree changes |
| 22:59.15 | A-KO | ABOUT TIME |
| 22:59.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Thrae: so. |
| 22:59.18 | A-KO | NICE |
| 22:59.23 | A-KO | I hope this build has the new specialization shit |
| 22:59.24 | Ackis | when does the beta copy your login credentials over? |
| 22:59.25 | A-KO | would be nice |
| 22:59.36 | A-KO | yo |
| 22:59.40 | A-KO | League of Legends update is pimp |
| 22:59.42 | erikd | anyone else leveling on the pvp server? |
| 22:59.46 | Maldivia | A-KO: it does |
| 23:00.00 | Thrae | Remember people -- while the NDA has been lifted, the SECOND NDA has not. So remember always follow the second NDA, "Saying anything bad about Cataclysm anywhere people might read it is breaking our Terms of Testing (ToT) agreement." |
| 23:00.26 | kd3 | lol |
| 23:00.47 | Adys | breaks Thrae's TiTs |
| 23:00.47 | kd3 | and whee... found it. ~300MB or so |
| 23:00.52 | A-KO | erikd I am |
| 23:00.54 | A-KO | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzMnCv_lPxI |
| 23:00.55 | A-KO | watch that |
| 23:00.56 | A-KO | in HD |
| 23:00.56 | Lunessa | Ghostcrawler told a guy in alpha who was being a dick that his invitation could just as easily be revoked. |
| 23:01.06 | Thrae | "Saying Cataclysm is no match for Star Wars: The Old Republic is grounds for permenant banishment. From the United States. On grounds of treason." |
| 23:01.40 | Cide | is the patch live? |
| 23:01.49 | Niv | no |
| 23:01.50 | Cide | launcher turns up nothing |
| 23:01.51 | Lunessa | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25399740676&sid=2000&pageNo=2#22 |
| 23:02.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: i saw that the other day. it made me happy |
| 23:02.18 | Lunessa | I wanted to chear. |
| 23:02.22 | Lunessa | cheer |
| 23:02.30 | A-KO | LoL is winsauce |
| 23:02.38 | A-KO | AND THEY FIXED VEIGAR :D |
| 23:02.41 | A-KO | I is happy |
| 23:02.44 | erikd | a-ko: what level are you at now? |
| 23:02.48 | A-KO | like, 10 |
| 23:02.49 | A-KO | lol |
| 23:02.52 | A-KO | I've barely played |
| 23:02.53 | erikd | oh |
| 23:02.54 | A-KO | work has been shit |
| 23:02.58 | NightHawkTheSane | I seriously need a web designer too be my bitch. |
| 23:02.59 | A-KO | oh |
| 23:03.03 | A-KO | level in beta? |
| 23:03.03 | A-KO | 82 |
| 23:03.04 | NightHawkTheSane | to* |
| 23:03.08 | A-KO | I thought you were talking lol |
| 23:03.09 | Cide | NightHawkTheSane, $100/hr |
| 23:03.17 | erikd | i'm going to be finishing feralas tonight and i think i'll be there before 45 when i can start in tanaris |
| 23:03.17 | A-KO | in beta I've been 82 for like |
| 23:03.18 | A-KO | 10 years |
| 23:03.21 | erikd | so i don't know where to go |
| 23:03.22 | A-KO | damn dude |
| 23:03.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Cide: i said be my bitch, not extort me :P |
| 23:03.30 | Maldivia | kd3: yep, 308mb |
| 23:03.34 | Cide | I can go as low as $98 |
| 23:03.43 | erikd | i'll do $97 |
| 23:03.48 | Cide | I'm better |
| 23:03.53 | kd3 | yah. I found it. just had to massage my patch finder to look for bigger builds |
| 23:03.55 | erikd | you wish |
| 23:04.03 | Maldivia | heh |
| 23:04.13 | Cide | link a site you made |
| 23:04.24 | erikd | pfft, that's not fair |
| 23:04.30 | erikd | i'm constrained by my pos employer |
| 23:04.30 | Cide | how is it not? |
| 23:04.33 | NightHawkTheSane | actually, thats quite fair. |
| 23:05.00 | NightHawkTheSane | i mean, you ought to have a portfolio of some sort if you want any credibility as a designer. |
| 23:05.07 | Maldivia | looking at the talent specialization spells right now, nice :P |
| 23:05.21 | Cide | I'm going to go out on a Fisker and say |
| 23:05.23 | erikd | isn't a designer |
| 23:05.25 | Lunessa | Do you need a portfolio to have credibility as a bitch? |
| 23:05.26 | *** join/#wowuidev Marla (~Marla@fabe.xs4all.nl) |
| 23:05.27 | Cide | Maldivia, FFFUUUUU |
| 23:05.50 | Cide | Lunessa, that's an innate ability that must be unlearned with experience |
| 23:05.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: no, but i dont want just ANY bitch :P |
| 23:05.55 | Cide | few succeed |
| 23:06.07 | Cide | even fewer survive |
| 23:06.10 | kd3 | wtb gnomish starting experience |
| 23:06.12 | NightHawkTheSane | i would have just said "i need someone to be my bitch" if that were the case :) |
| 23:06.17 | Lunessa | NHTS: Don't you just want someone you can tell to do that shit over and get it right this tikme? |
| 23:06.23 | Maldivia | Cide, just ask if interested :P |
| 23:06.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: no, i want someone to do this shit for me, and do it right this time ;) |
| 23:06.33 | Kraps | http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2010/07/you-are-not-authorized-to-see-these.html :( |
| 23:06.37 | erikd | i can design the best programmer designed site you've ever seen. i have the perfect hot pink/green combo that really stands out |
| 23:06.48 | Ackis | hey does anyone here have an aion CE kicking around? |
| 23:06.49 | Lunessa | Better get ready to lay out the Benjamins then. |
| 23:06.49 | Cide | Maldivia, to cite the dungeon boss: tell me, tell me everythinggggg!!! |
| 23:06.52 | NightHawkTheSane | erikd: yeah, thats my problem. |
| 23:07.26 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: i know. :( it's not worth paying anyone for, cause its just a stupid little project. i just hate that i'm so bad at design. |
| 23:07.40 | Maldivia | Cide, any particular class/spec ? |
| 23:07.41 | ScytheBlade1 | I actually wonder if my issues are due to my router.. |
| 23:07.45 | ScytheBlade1 | bogomips : 66.30 |
| 23:07.47 | Cide | nah |
| 23:07.55 | erikd | just do what noob designers do and throw photoshop filters at it |
| 23:07.58 | Cide | I'll wait until it's more available |
| 23:08.02 | NightHawkTheSane | Maldivia: we want a nicely formatted and parsed text file, kthx ;) |
| 23:08.05 | Cide | so I can decide what class to try |
| 23:08.25 | Maldivia | Cide: well, a hint... Molten Armor is Fire specilization now for mages... |
| 23:08.38 | Cide | so it's not correct? |
| 23:08.44 | erikd | maldivia: so the changes are in the patch coming out today? |
| 23:08.51 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 23:08.54 | erikd | nice |
| 23:09.01 | Cide | or is that just a really strange choice |
| 23:09.14 | Cide | or is that the "passive" |
| 23:09.24 | Cide | because that totally isn't a signature fire ability |
| 23:10.10 | Kraps | is the patch out yet? |
| 23:10.33 | Maldivia | Cide: well, perhaps they are moving to wards Mage Armor for arcane, Molten Armor for fire, and Frozen Armor for frost`? |
| 23:10.49 | Cide | perhaps |
| 23:10.55 | Cide | but it's still boring to get molten armor on level 10 |
| 23:11.21 | Niv | what would you want? |
| 23:11.26 | Niv | living bomb? :) |
| 23:11.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Niv: actually, that'd be pretty neat. |
| 23:11.53 | Cide | dragon's breath? |
| 23:11.56 | Mirrormn | <3 living bomb |
| 23:12.06 | Cide | would be awesome to have |
| 23:12.07 | Niv | dragon's breath would be odd |
| 23:12.13 | Cide | why? |
| 23:12.19 | Maldivia | Cide: well, the fire mage spells seems to be Pyroblast, Molten Armor and Fire Specialization (increases fire damage by a percentage) |
| 23:12.29 | Cide | that's fine then |
| 23:12.33 | NightHawkTheSane | it's a situational/utility, not a rotational ability, which seems to be what they want for your spec-specific ability |
| 23:12.40 | NightHawkTheSane | ah, thats pretty cool then |
| 23:13.03 | Cide | from a leveling aspect dragon's breath would be sweet |
| 23:13.08 | Mirrormn | pyroblast is kind of worthless until you get hot streak though... |
| 23:13.19 | Cide | the talent trees are being remade |
| 23:13.20 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, makes a decent opener |
| 23:13.24 | Maldivia | Cide: for frost, it's water elemental and frost specialization |
| 23:13.29 | Cide | oh really |
| 23:13.30 | Cide | that's awesome |
| 23:13.38 | Cide | water elemental ftw |
| 23:13.40 | Niv | warriors matter more than mages |
| 23:13.43 | Niv | gogo |
| 23:13.54 | NeoTron | destro warlock key level 10 spell is clearly shadowfury |
| 23:14.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Maldivia: don't suppose you'd be kind of enough to say what shaman have? :) |
| 23:14.26 | Cide | just do them all |
| 23:14.27 | Mirrormn | well, my comments will probably be more accurate once I actually get the beta installed, but pyro just doesn't seem useful at level 10 |
| 23:14.31 | Cide | except for DK's |
| 23:14.36 | Cide | that's less interesting |
| 23:14.49 | Maldivia | Niv: prot warrior: shield slam, vitality, vengeance |
| 23:15.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Mirrormn: more or less useful than getting it at 20 like you do now? :P |
| 23:15.14 | Adys | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPh53BCJQKE |
| 23:15.17 | Adys | i never get tired |
| 23:15.30 | Maldivia | NHTS: elemental: eye of the storm, thunderstorm, elemental fury -- resto: earth shield, purification (+ healing%), healing focus, meditation |
| 23:16.00 | Niv | Maldivia: fury would be the interesting one, he already disclosed arms/prot |
| 23:16.02 | Niv | ;) |
| 23:16.16 | Mirrormn | what I'm really worried about is the mana-based damage specicialization for arcane |
| 23:16.30 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, earth shield is neat, but i'd kind have liked riptide for resto. unless we wont have to choose between earth/water shield while leveling |
| 23:16.41 | Kraps | Maldivia: you have a link? |
| 23:17.16 | Maldivia | Kraps: no - finding the info as it's being requested :P |
| 23:17.28 | jnwhiteh | what are you guys talking about>? |
| 23:17.37 | Mirrormn | well, if you start giving too many spells at level 10, you start both overwhelming new players and reducing the reward of actually hitting higher levels |
| 23:17.49 | Maldivia | NHTS: enhancement: dual wield (+specialization), mental quickness and lava lash |
| 23:17.58 | NightHawkTheSane | Maldivia: thanks :) |
| 23:18.06 | Maldivia | jnwhiteh: the talent specialization spells/passives |
| 23:18.13 | Mirrormn | how exactly does 1.1GB/2.2GB = 24%? |
| 23:18.22 | jnwhiteh | so you get spells for speccing deep enough into a tree now? |
| 23:18.26 | jnwhiteh | instead of having those be talents? |
| 23:18.33 | A-KO | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX0D4oZwCsA |
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| 23:18.41 | A-KO | jnwhiteh: as soon as you put a point in |
| 23:18.42 | Cide | Mirrormn, it installs at a slower pace |
| 23:18.44 | Lunessa | jnwhiteh: you get class defining stuff at 10 |
| 23:18.45 | Maldivia | jnwhiteh: you get spells for choosing a tree - at level 10 you choose a tree, and are stuck in that tree for 31 points |
| 23:18.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Mirrormn: i believe the overal percentage includes installing the patch as well |
| 23:18.47 | A-KO | you're locked to putting 30 more into that tree |
| 23:18.52 | A-KO | before you can put any points anywhere else |
| 23:18.59 | jnwhiteh | ok |
| 23:19.02 | jnwhiteh | I knew that much |
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| 23:19.11 | jnwhiteh | oh, you have a build that has the new trees |
| 23:19.13 | jnwhiteh | that's what you're doing |
| 23:19.16 | jnwhiteh | gotcha =) |
| 23:19.21 | NightHawkTheSane | jnwhiteh: new beta build ;) |
| 23:19.30 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 23:19.35 | A-KO | the new build isn't out yet is it? |
| 23:19.40 | Mirrormn | well, I guess that's better than my assumption |
| 23:20.02 | Maldivia | hmm... only fury warriors can dual wield now.. |
| 23:20.22 | Mirrormn | which was that 24% indicated that I would have another ~2.2gb to download after the first download |
| 23:20.25 | Maldivia | (of the warrior specs that is) |
| 23:20.28 | Mirrormn | ... although that could be true anyway -.- |
| 23:20.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Maldivia: that was mentioned on the forums |
| 23:20.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Mirrormn: yeah, all told you might, actually ;) |
| 23:20.48 | Maldivia | NHTS: well, he mentioned that fury was the only spec meant to dual wield |
| 23:20.50 | Kraps | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25968750006&sid=2000 |
| 23:21.06 | NightHawkTheSane | Maldivia: true, i took it as they were changing it so only fury COULD dw, a la enhance shaman |
| 23:21.07 | lowlee | Mirrormn: you have 3Gb to d/l after the 2.2 :P |
| 23:21.24 | Maldivia | NHTS: well, apparently that's how it is :) |
| 23:21.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Maldivia: so it seems! |
| 23:21.40 | Mirrormn | *sigh* my fragile pipes can't handle all this data |
| 23:21.58 | NightHawkTheSane | what really sucked about patching beta is having to babysit it so littlesnitch didn't keep blocking each new downloader. |
| 23:22.02 | NightHawkTheSane | i should have just disabled it temporarily |
| 23:22.05 | Lunessa | ok, I'm out. See you guys tomorrow. |
| 23:22.11 | NightHawkTheSane | later Lunessa |
| 23:22.33 | Maldivia | Niv: fury: dual wield, dual wield specialization, precision, bloodthirst |
| 23:22.40 | Niv | nice |
| 23:22.45 | Niv | so lvl cap is 83 |
| 23:22.56 | NeoTron | is that info already out? |
| 23:22.59 | Niv | yea |
| 23:23.01 | NeoTron | seems like a fast patch |
| 23:23.08 | Niv | blues are making posts |
| 23:23.12 | Niv | for feedback |
| 23:23.36 | A-KO | did they bump level cap? |
| 23:23.40 | Maldivia | yes |
| 23:23.41 | Niv | yes, 83 |
| 23:23.54 | A-KO | URL? |
| 23:23.58 | A-KO | I don't see that on the beta forums |
| 23:24.04 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/board.html?forumId=7573202&sid=2000 |
| 23:24.21 | A-KO | oh damn |
| 23:24.25 | A-KO | Deepholm!!! |
| 23:24.26 | A-KO | shit |
| 23:24.30 | A-KO | there goes my LoL play for tonight |
| 23:25.02 | jnwhiteh | lol still not avail for mac? |
| 23:25.11 | Niv | it is |
| 23:25.17 | jnwhiteh | oh, thats new |
| 23:25.21 | jnwhiteh | maybe i'd like that more than hon |
| 23:25.24 | A-KO | shit :( |
| 23:25.25 | A-KO | sigh |
| 23:25.28 | Niv | er, wait |
| 23:25.29 | A-KO | hopefully they put this out soon |
| 23:25.34 | A-KO | otherwise I"ll level tomorrow after work |
| 23:25.35 | Niv | you mean the beta or what? |
| 23:25.50 | NightHawkTheSane | random: if I have a URL that is 302 redirected to some other URL, is there a way I can, using javascript, get the destination url? |
| 23:26.55 | Cide | nope |
| 23:26.58 | Cide | well |
| 23:27.10 | Cide | maybe with some ajax magic |
| 23:28.13 | Arrowmaster | i hate carrying people http://www.bungie.net/Stats/ODSTg.aspx?gameid=100001037&player=Arrowmaster |
| 23:28.37 | Arrowmaster | i also hate this god damn achievement |
| 23:29.01 | Cide | NightHawkTheSane, XMLHttpRequest to the url |
| 23:29.03 | Arrowmaster | one guy gets disconnected and the last hour and a half was a waste |
| 23:29.06 | Cide | check the status attribute for 302 |
| 23:29.19 | Cide | and then you should be able to figure out the url from statusText or some other attribute |
| 23:29.27 | Cide | see http://www.w3.org/TR/XMLHttpRequest/#the-status-attribute |
| 23:29.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Cide: yeah, was thinking about that. |
| 23:29.47 | *** join/#wowuidev Mirrormn (adbb0855@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.187.8.85) |
| 23:30.02 | Cide | that's the only way |
| 23:30.17 | Cide | of course you'd need to repeat it if you're expecting redirect chains |
| 23:30.31 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, obviously. |
| 23:30.47 | NightHawkTheSane | might try and build a little js library or something to do that |
| 23:31.13 | NightHawkTheSane | might also do it server side as well. |
| 23:31.25 | Kraps | Arrowmaster: what game? |
| 23:31.31 | Arrowmaster | ODST |
| 23:32.19 | Kraps | you played 1 match for 1 and a half hours? |
| 23:32.26 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 23:32.55 | Kraps | O_o |
| 23:33.09 | Arrowmaster | it takes atleast 2 hours to get this achievement |
| 23:33.28 | Arrowmaster | if you dont fail or somebody doesnt get disconnected |
| 23:33.42 | Kraps | what achievement? |
| 23:35.28 | Arrowmaster | endure |
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| 23:36.41 | Mirrormn | is there some way I can keep the beta downloader from blasting me with music every time I look at it? |
| 23:36.58 | Niv | turn your speakers off? |
| 23:37.14 | Arrowmaster | these are my 3 closest attempts at getting it http://www.bungie.net/Stats/ODSTg.aspx?gameid=84405037&player=Arrowmaster http://www.bungie.net/Stats/ODSTg.aspx?gameid=96624318&player=Arrowmaster http://www.bungie.net/Stats/ODSTg.aspx?gameid=100001037&player=Arrowmaster |
| 23:37.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Mirrormn: don't look at it. |
| 23:37.50 | NightHawkTheSane | watched pots, etc. |
| 23:39.34 | Mirrormn | one time I watched a pot of water the entire time it was on the stove and it did boil! |
| 23:40.00 | NightHawkTheSane | you probably blinked. |
| 23:40.18 | Mirrormn | newp |
| 23:40.33 | Mirrormn | I had a team of assistants with specially designed eye hydrators |
| 23:40.39 | Mirrormn | so I wouldn't need to blink |
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| 23:42.47 | sylvanaar | omg i have a massive froyo headache |
| 23:42.53 | Maldivia | NHTS: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/138558 |
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| 23:44.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Maldivia: ooh, awesome :) |
| 23:45.02 | Kraps | hawt Maldivia |
| 23:45.08 | Maldivia | NHTS: haven't double checked, so an error or two might have crept in |
| 23:45.15 | lowlee | wow AS for prot pally :O |
| 23:45.35 | NightHawkTheSane | thats not surprising, its one of their very iconic abilities |
| 23:45.36 | Maldivia | no, wow as for demo lock! |
| 23:45.56 | Kirkburn | Wait, they said they weren't gonna do that |
| 23:46.22 | Kirkburn | Am I reading it wrong? Those are the immediate gain spells? |
| 23:46.28 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 23:46.32 | Cide | rogue seems kinda cool |
| 23:46.38 | Kraps | i need to reread the mastery stuff... |
| 23:46.40 | Kirkburn | Yeah, GC said felguard at level 10 would be weird |
| 23:47.00 | Maldivia | well, could be it's just a placeholder for now |
| 23:47.03 | NightHawkTheSane | he did, but maybe they changed their mind, or are playing around, or it's wrong :P |
| 23:47.07 | NightHawkTheSane | or that |
| 23:47.12 | Kirkburn | Imp --> Felguard would be crazy :P |
| 23:47.19 | Kirkburn | Then Felguard for 75 levels... :) |
| 23:48.34 | Kraps | GC already said the didnt like divine storm at a lvl 10 ability for ret |
| 23:48.48 | sylvanaar | what is the current cata build? |
| 23:49.03 | Maldivia | 12479 |
| 23:49.10 | Maldivia | (the patch that's happening right now) |
| 23:49.17 | sylvanaar | ok |
| 23:49.25 | sylvanaar | is days behind |
| 23:49.43 | Maldivia | well, the servers are down for maintenance right now, so :P |
| 23:49.59 | NeoTron | so if fg is really level 10 it might be the way to level now |
| 23:50.01 | Zyn | keeps reopening the beta Launcher.exe |
| 23:50.02 | sylvanaar | does it come after 12232? |
| 23:50.07 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.wimp.com/stewartcount/ |
| 23:50.13 | Kirkburn | Zyn, haha, me too |
| 23:50.31 | NightHawkTheSane | sylvanaar: no |
| 23:50.49 | sylvanaar | how many more patches do i have to go? |
| 23:50.52 | NightHawkTheSane | sylvanaar: 12319 or something was the previous build i think? |
| 23:51.02 | sylvanaar | oh, so 2 |
| 23:51.09 | Maldivia | 12232 -> 12266 -> 12319 -> 12479 |
| 23:51.14 | NightHawkTheSane | what he said |
| 23:51.16 | sylvanaar | =( |
| 23:51.24 | Maldivia | sylvanaar: see http://us.version.worldofwarcraft.com/update/PatchSequenceFile.txt :) |
| 23:51.37 | sylvanaar | thanks, thats handy |
| 23:51.49 | Maldivia | that's the file the Launcher uses to check for updates :) |
| 23:52.46 | Maldivia | and I'm kind of sad they didn't use 5 more build before the released to live :P |
| 23:52.59 | Maldivia | the geek in me would have liked build 12345 :) |
| 23:54.28 | Kraps | oh man hearthstones are OP now http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/4214/hearth.png |
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| 23:55.23 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont even want to know WHERE you equip that. |
| 23:55.34 | ScytheBlade1 | ckknight: and there it goes AGAIN |
| 23:59.48 | Zyn | farts a little |
