| 00:00.43 | Wobin | what are the worgen/goblin racials? |
| 00:00.43 | Wobin | I noticed a dash for the worgs |
| 00:00.43 | Wobin | and the bank for the gobs |
| 00:00.44 | Wobin | but I haven't been looking at too many videos |
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| 00:03.42 | alestane | Worgen: Sprint, +1% crit, reduced curse/disease duration, faster skinning. |
| 00:04.02 | alestane | Goblin: Bank access, faction discounts, +15 alchemy, utility belt. |
| 00:04.25 | alestane | (Can be used to jump forward or deal fire damage, shared cooldown) |
| 00:04.25 | Jerub | and GO KARTS! |
| 00:04.39 | Ressy | Utility Belt: 1% increase to weap speed, Rocket Jump, Rocket Barrage |
| 00:05.05 | Ressy | whoops. Not weap speed, attack/cast speed |
| 00:05.18 | Jerub | i'm totally rolling a golbin |
| 00:05.21 | Jerub | er goblin |
| 00:05.47 | Ressy | Its a lot of fun. hehe :) |
| 00:17.26 | amro | Twitter is over capacity. |
| 00:17.33 | Shadowed | That's like saying the sky is blue |
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| 00:19.41 | amro | I never use it |
| 00:19.48 | amro | I just logged in to tweet sometihng for a raffle |
| 00:20.13 | Cide | I am trying to get into it |
| 00:20.16 | Cide | not really a fan o fit |
| 00:20.17 | Cide | of it |
| 00:20.44 | amro | http://evo2k.com/live/ daigo vs valle! |
| 00:23.58 | Wobin | the announcing is terrible |
| 00:24.31 | amro | announcing or commentating? |
| 00:27.21 | amro | flash is so bad |
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| 00:49.45 | Wobin | the announcing |
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| 01:05.09 | Kraps | woot for needing a clubat http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/25969038470/in-favor-of-the-real-id-sorta-of/ |
| 01:06.14 | Cide | hmm |
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| 01:06.58 | Wobin | It's sad |
| 01:07.10 | Wobin | that people who don't understand what the internet can be like |
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| 01:07.18 | Wobin | must experience it for themselves |
| 01:07.25 | Wobin | before they believe it |
| 01:08.22 | Kraps | how could they not know? THEY PLAY WOW. ON THE INTERNET. |
| 01:08.59 | Jerub | i only heard one complaint about the realid on forum thing that actually made me think, "that's a good point, that's a real concern" |
| 01:09.22 | Sixen | This is pretty awesome, amro. |
| 01:09.30 | Jerub | and that was that anyone who is a girl who plays wow would have their gender exposed, and that causes negative bullshit. |
| 01:09.48 | Jerub | whereas if they have a gender ambiguous nick, no drama occurs. |
| 01:10.03 | amro | snake eyes putting on quite a show |
| 01:10.11 | amro | I'm waiting fo ssf4 though Sixen |
| 01:10.21 | Kraps | what about a racial name? |
| 01:10.29 | Sixen | SS2 was so awesome. |
| 01:10.43 | Sixen | I've never heard of this evo thing before. |
| 01:10.47 | tem | Deathas says: HEY ANY1 NO A TP TP GET TO NORTHREND?? |
| 01:10.51 | tem | cryies |
| 01:10.55 | tem | cries |
| 01:11.06 | Kraps | tem: what language is that? |
| 01:11.09 | Cide | stop tiling and play some sc2 |
| 01:11.13 | Wobin | townportal? |
| 01:11.17 | Wobin | toiletpaper? |
| 01:11.25 | tem | I'm assuming it's TP for town portal |
| 01:11.31 | tem | and a typo of "to" |
| 01:11.32 | Dagmar | Cottonelle! |
| 01:11.33 | Cide | TP TP => town portal to |
| 01:11.56 | Sixen | Makes me wanna go play |
| 01:12.11 | Kalroth | tp tp == toilet paper, to [clean] pee |
| 01:14.22 | Trela | Any one else have a WoW account that constantly lets them activate a WotLK trial? |
| 01:17.08 | p3lim | Is there any API to find out what location an unit is in? |
| 01:17.48 | Jerub | p3lim: not really. you can find distance. |
| 01:18.07 | Jerub | and there's some evilness that zorba wrote that allows you to figure out their position through triangulation. |
| 01:18.22 | Dagmar | That's right, because math is evil |
| 01:18.31 | Corrodias | don't you forget it |
| 01:18.57 | Jerub | well, i actually think it's evil because it's so inaccurate and intensive. |
| 01:19.29 | Dagmar | Already been through that once tonight with the gf... She's not happy that she's dealing with geometry for her GREs and I have no problems with geometry |
| 01:19.47 | Dagmar | Jerub: A few square roots is evil? |
| 01:19.51 | Jerub | entirely useful for the application of finding a position of something if you have a human to perform the movement and exploration required, but if they're moving at the same time as you, or you don't move around, you either have a ring or two points that the unit could be. |
| 01:19.56 | Dagmar | er s/evil/intensive/ |
| 01:20.16 | Jerub | Dagmar: fwiw, i have a maths degree. |
| 01:20.47 | Dagmar | I could have sworn three points would narrow it to one place it could be (assuming you don't travel in a straight line) |
| 01:21.07 | Jerub | Dagmar: yes. but if they're moving as well, you end up with trash data. |
| 01:21.16 | Dagmar | Ah but you can tell it's trash data then, afaik |
| 01:21.52 | Jerub | yes. hence, ring, two points, or no answer are all answers that you can get from the evilnes. |
| 01:22.04 | Jerub | and sometimes you can't tell the data is trash. |
| 01:22.14 | Jerub | so it's also possible for it to be very wrong. |
| 01:22.23 | Jerub | (using /qh radar you can see all these error conditions) |
| 01:22.48 | amro | Trela: same thing happened to me with BC trial |
| 01:23.01 | amro | wow billing is buggier than vanilla raids |
| 01:23.24 | Trela | Nice. |
| 01:25.08 | amro | I once could reactivate my full account without paying |
| 01:28.52 | Kraps | Jerub: math* |
| 01:29.32 | Jerub | Kraps: are you correcting my contraction of 'mathematics' to 'maths'? |
| 01:29.41 | Kraps | no |
| 01:29.58 | Kraps | the contraction is math |
| 01:30.08 | Jerub | Kraps: that's a uniquely north american spelling. |
| 01:30.11 | Kraps | my country is better |
| 01:30.15 | Kraps | see? |
| 01:30.45 | Kraps | no wait we dont use the metric system |
| 01:30.55 | Jerub | fraid not. |
| 01:31.50 | Kraps | wish we did |
| 01:32.09 | Jerub | Kraps: start today! |
| 01:32.51 | amro | unlikely |
| 01:33.04 | amro | NASA learned the wrong lesson from Mars Express |
| 01:33.56 | Jerub | nasa is an irrelevent and decrept organisation that is a machine for turning money into PR |
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| 01:35.01 | Kraps | we were discussing earlier how NASA is in on the round earth conspiracy, which make them irrelevant anyway |
| 01:35.20 | amro | NASA isn't as bad as people make it sound |
| 01:35.30 | amro | sending things into space isn't easy |
| 01:35.57 | Kraps | its all FAKE |
| 01:35.57 | Corrodias | i know i've never done it |
| 01:36.02 | Kraps | and GAY |
| 01:36.59 | Kraps | will shut up now |
| 01:37.25 | amro | NASA has had a lot of incredible successes, it would have to fuck up much harder to lose standing in my book |
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| 01:39.09 | Kraps | true, but sending people to mars is a waste of time and resources imo |
| 01:40.54 | amro | lots of things are a waste of time and resources |
| 01:40.59 | amro | few of them are as cool as sending people to mars |
| 01:41.20 | Cide | there are lots of things |
| 01:41.28 | Cide | none of them are as cool as sending people to mars |
| 01:41.32 | amro | ^ |
| 01:42.05 | amro | manned mars missions aren't even on the calendar |
| 01:42.06 | Kraps | i'm not seeing the coolness :s |
| 01:42.17 | Cide | that makes you uncool by extension |
| 01:42.19 | amro | and soon NASA won't even have a way of reaching LEO |
| 01:42.34 | Cide | wait what? |
| 01:42.44 | amro | they're retiring the shuttle fleet |
| 01:43.02 | Cide | why? |
| 01:43.02 | amro | and orion won't be ready for at least a few more years |
| 01:43.10 | amro | I don't know the details |
| 01:43.16 | Kraps | old |
| 01:43.19 | amro | I think there's one last scheduled flight |
| 01:43.37 | Kraps | they are looking for cheaper alternatives |
| 01:43.39 | amro | I call dibs on atlantis |
| 01:45.41 | amro | 2 more scheduled flights according to wikipedia |
| 01:45.52 | amro | (and implicitly, 2 more standby emergency missions) |
| 01:46.51 | amro | http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/structure/iss_manifest.html |
| 01:47.34 | Kraps | this pretty cool http://chzbobshouseofvideogames.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/f057ac8e-e46d-4298-a7f3-8b4a75dd0efa.jpg |
| 01:48.32 | Corrodias | it's a rather small version of that image, though |
| 01:49.23 | Kraps | hmm |
| 01:52.54 | Kraps | http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1937482 |
| 01:53.03 | amro | "The bottom line: BPâs Deepwater Horizon drilling operation may have triggered an irreversible, cascading geological Apocalypse that will culminate with the first mass extinction of life on Earth in many millions of years." |
| 01:54.34 | Corrodias | i admit i'm a little surprised that nobody had a useful plan for what to do if anything ever went wrong |
| 01:54.53 | Corrodias | enterprise is built on wishful thinking, i guess |
| 01:54.59 | Kraps | amro: lolwut |
| 01:56.03 | amro | http://www.crunchgear.com/2010/07/11/happy-sunday-the-bp-spill-could-trigger-a-methane-explosion-mass-extinction/ |
| 01:56.28 | Corrodias | are there other companies drilling for oil in the same way? |
| 01:56.31 | amro | Corrodias: there are plans, they just failed hard |
| 01:56.33 | amro | yes |
| 01:56.41 | amro | this isn't the first underwater oil spill |
| 01:56.46 | Arrowmaster | how is this news? |
| 01:56.49 | Corrodias | aah |
| 01:57.11 | Arrowmaster | did you not know about the giant methane pockets under the gulf before? |
| 01:58.04 | amro | it's already releasing gas |
| 01:59.10 | Arrowmaster | even before the BP spill it was known that there were large amounts of methane under the gulf that were a mass extinction risk if they ever were ignited |
| 02:00.15 | Kraps | what happens if it blows up? |
| 02:00.23 | Cide | you die |
| 02:00.28 | Corrodias | surprising, isn't it, how fragile the earth is. one misplaced earthquake could destroy everything! |
| 02:00.30 | Arrowmaster | end of the world |
| 02:00.51 | amro | Corrodias: 'misplaced' is subjective, I'd say well-placed |
| 02:00.54 | Arrowmaster | BP is responsible for the chain of events that is going to destroy the world in 2012 |
| 02:01.00 | Cide | rofl |
| 02:01.01 | Kraps | its that powerful? |
| 02:01.08 | Arrowmaster | Kraps: yes |
| 02:01.19 | Corrodias | sounds like it didn't have to be BP; any of those companies could have gotten unlucky enough to be the one, eh? |
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| 02:01.58 | Kraps | i dont care if we all die at once, i just dont wanna die by myself |
| 02:02.07 | Kraps | >.> |
| 02:02.13 | Corrodias | i want to die with one of my parts stuck in somebody else's parts |
| 02:02.22 | Corrodias | finger in ear, final wet willie |
| 02:02.24 | Arrowmaster | its a matter of priorities, BPs priorities were making money and not the safety of their drilling operations |
| 02:02.24 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: I take it you just read the stuff about the methane bubble? |
| 02:02.35 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: no ive known about it |
| 02:02.48 | Dagmar | Ah I see it's making the rounds |
| 02:04.13 | Dagmar | I say we go ahead and start rounding up all management of BP operations, just in case |
| 02:04.38 | Arrowmaster | estimated that if a small meteor were ever to strike the gulf the methane would magnify the explosion to be on the scale of a major impact capable of covering the earth in ash like the one that wiped out the dinosaurs |
| 02:05.01 | amro | good thing we're not dinosaurs |
| 02:05.19 | p3lim | hahah :p |
| 02:05.38 | Dagmar | Or, you know, just rinsing the rest of New Orleans away, along with a bit of Mexico's eastern coastline |
| 02:07.32 | Arrowmaster | yeah, at least the rich like multi-million dollar international company CEOs can afford to build underground structures to wait out the environmental disaster for generations so at least the human race continues on right |
| 02:10.30 | Wobin | wants to be in Vault13 |
| 02:12.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik|Gh: I must sleep! afk sleep. (So no 4v4) |
| 02:14.59 | Cide | you're bad ScytheBlade1 |
| 02:15.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: blame the job |
| 02:15.15 | Cide | no |
| 02:15.17 | Cide | I blame you |
| 02:17.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Rage out against Shirik|Gh |
| 02:17.09 | ScytheBlade1 | He's a good target |
| 02:17.15 | Cide | he's afk |
| 02:17.24 | ScytheBlade1 | pingbomb him |
| 02:17.29 | ScytheBlade1 | afk sleep for real |
| 02:34.35 | Dagmar | I guess we'll find out if this shop has a sense of humor... bought some goggles, couldn't resist the temptation to put in the comments blank (that reappeared on every page of the order process: "I solemnly swear to only use these goggles for the good of mankind." |
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| 02:38.03 | Wobin | this evo feed is addictive |
| 02:44.14 | Dagmar | They still playing Street Fighrer? |
| 02:45.21 | amro | no, tekken |
| 02:45.25 | amro | ssf4 is up next though |
| 02:46.18 | amro | this stage is hilarious, sending sheep flying |
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| 03:00.43 | kd3 | holy hell I just blew up an entire damned /valley/ full of orcs and black dragons |
| 03:01.11 | amro | methane explosion? |
| 03:01.16 | Dagmar | XP spam? |
| 03:01.17 | kd3 | seaforium |
| 03:01.26 | kd3 | it's part of the redridge storyline |
| 03:01.33 | kd3 | I'll have it up on the wiki later tonight, probably |
| 03:01.38 | Dagmar | Ah |
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| 03:07.06 | Arrowmaster | i am getting so tired of mplayer breaking old things in new releases |
| 03:07.17 | Arrowmaster | well i really shouldnt say releases |
| 03:07.20 | amro | oh, mvc3 exhibition |
| 03:07.21 | amro | neat |
| 03:07.23 | Corrodias | builds? |
| 03:07.29 | Arrowmaster | yeah builds i guess |
| 03:07.48 | Arrowmaster | ive got about 5 different mplayer builds im switching between |
| 03:08.01 | kd3 | yay not doing regression testing? |
| 03:08.02 | kd3 | >.> |
| 03:08.11 | amro | yay not having unit tests |
| 03:08.15 | Arrowmaster | DTS audio seems to only be working properly in the latest |
| 03:08.26 | Arrowmaster | although my latest is from june |
| 03:08.40 | Arrowmaster | but that latest isnt picking up the fps correctly |
| 03:10.04 | Arrowmaster | although i had a video with DTS audio that i had to revert back to a may build because the DTS audio was stuttering in and it was unwatchable due to it, was just ear bleadingly bad |
| 03:20.58 | amro | deadpool <3 |
| 03:22.47 | Arrowmaster | wow i figured out what the issue is |
| 03:22.57 | Arrowmaster | default mkv demuxer changed |
| 03:23.31 | Arrowmaster | old demuxer cant handle half the files i have with DTS audio it seems |
| 03:24.04 | Arrowmaster | new one cant properly detect the fps so playback is messed up |
| 03:24.53 | Arrowmaster | even using '-fps 24000/1001' with the new demuxer makes the audio playback incorrect |
| 03:25.33 | amro | I figured it out as well |
| 03:25.35 | amro | MKV |
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| 03:47.58 | Jerub | i've really gotta put htis question the other way around |
| 03:48.02 | Jerub | "Am i tank or raid healing" |
| 03:48.11 | Jerub | when i mean "Am i raid or tank healing" |
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| 04:16.51 | amro | http://evo2k.com/live/ getting awesome |
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| 04:43.16 | Jamash | how about "am I healing the raid or healing the tank?" |
| 04:43.30 | Corrodias | "both" |
| 04:43.57 | Jerub | Corrodias: i hate that answer most of all. |
| 04:44.01 | Corrodias | * druid awesomeface * |
| 04:44.04 | Jerub | but usually it's, "heal please" |
| 04:44.23 | Jerub | and i'm like, uhh.. i mean, tree 1 or tree 2, not tree or bear. |
| 04:51.38 | erikd | are any of you guys that are in beta leveling up new alliance characters? |
| 04:51.39 | Wobin | lol@xkcd |
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| 05:19.25 | Fisker | kd3 |
| 05:19.28 | Fisker | you should feel bad |
| 05:20.30 | Fisker | Wobin |
| 05:20.32 | Fisker | i'm tired |
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| 05:50.46 | Fisker | why has thou forsaketh me Iriel?! |
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| 06:22.34 | Guest588 | do do do do |
| 06:22.37 | Guest588 | name that song |
| 06:24.00 | Guest588 | Fisker |
| 06:24.05 | Guest588 | who are you |
| 06:24.06 | Guest588 | who who |
| 06:24.11 | Guest588 | I really wanna know |
| 06:25.14 | Jerub | You wouldn't Fisker. |
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| 06:27.19 | Fisker | i will fisk you up Guest588 |
| 06:27.49 | Guest588 | unlikely |
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| 06:35.30 | Guest588 | what...the fuck |
| 06:35.33 | Guest588 | I go to delete a file |
| 06:36.00 | Guest588 | There is not enough space to delete this file. |
| 06:36.07 | Guest588 | 8.28KB is needed to delete this file. |
| 06:37.00 | Trela | XD |
| 06:41.46 | Corrodias | what system? |
| 06:41.51 | Guest588 | Windows 7 |
| 06:41.55 | Guest588 | NTFS |
| 06:42.00 | Corrodias | weird :| |
| 06:42.20 | Jamash | journaling to the rescue |
| 06:42.31 | Guest588 | I was about to say |
| 06:42.35 | Guest588 | I think it's journaling's fault |
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| 07:19.01 | Shirik | time for sleep, night |
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| 07:29.48 | Maldivia | *yawn* |
| 07:32.24 | Satisfyme | Tired Maldivia ? |
| 07:33.53 | Maldivia | its monday morning, of course I'm tired |
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| 07:35.59 | Maldivia | s/monday morning/the 21st century/ |
| 07:39.52 | Satisfyme | hehe :) |
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| 07:50.03 | Fisker | sweet |
| 07:50.11 | Fisker | Nvidia is contiuing to rape ATi |
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| 08:10.46 | Dagmar | Fisker: Actually we kinda want those to flip-flop every once in awhile. It keeps them both from getting crazy with prices |
| 08:11.32 | Ycarene | Anyone use grid? |
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| 08:18.46 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: except they were both caught collaborating and price fixing in the past |
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| 08:21.21 | Industrial | http://i.imgur.com/AnU0i.jpg |
| 08:21.23 | Industrial | :') |
| 08:22.37 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: How would you catch just _one_ company at it? |
| 08:24.09 | Arrowmaster | well there are those cases where manufactures try to keep retailers from selling below the MRSP |
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| 08:25.04 | Dagmar | Yeah, but that's pretty minor compared to what happens when one company eliminates all the competition |
| 08:25.28 | Dagmar | Hell, Taiwan gets popped for collusion about every five years on RAM as it is |
| 08:25.40 | Dagmar | So long as they keep getting caught, it's better |
| 08:31.22 | Wobin | http://totallylookslike.com/2010/07/11/facepalm-patrick-stewart-star-trek-totally-looks-like-fifa-world-cup-2014-logo/ |
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| 09:12.12 | DJJeff | Curse Client isnt showing DBM 4.51 alpha |
| 09:14.29 | Arrowmaster | is it on curse? |
| 09:15.25 | DJJeff | dunno |
| 09:15.29 | DJJeff | its not on the client |
| 09:15.41 | Arrowmaster | so check if its on curse |
| 09:15.44 | DJJeff | but it shows up @ www.deadlybossmods.com |
| 09:15.50 | Arrowmaster | so? |
| 09:15.59 | Arrowmaster | the client only fucking shows whats on curse.com |
| 09:16.00 | DJJeff | I want it on my curse client damn it |
| 09:16.10 | Arrowmaster | its always been that way |
| 09:16.11 | mikma | is curse able to fetch addoons out of curse |
| 09:16.17 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 09:16.21 | Arrowmaster | because thats not legal |
| 09:16.25 | mikma | there we go |
| 09:16.46 | DJJeff | I should find a better client that can? |
| 09:16.53 | Arrowmaster | none can |
| 09:16.55 | Arrowmaster | legally |
| 09:16.55 | mikma | mmoui minion |
| 09:16.57 | DJJeff | exactly |
| 09:20.04 | DJJeff | thats odd when I installed 4.51 alpha which I guess is an SVN version |
| 09:20.13 | DJJeff | in curse client it shows up as |
| 09:20.19 | DJJeff | " modified " |
| 09:20.32 | jnwhiteh | it is up to the DBM authors to release their addons elsewhere, full stop. |
| 09:21.02 | DJJeff | ~seen tandanu |
| 09:21.04 | purl | DJJeff: i haven't seen 'tandanu' |
| 09:21.47 | Arrowmaster | why would you expect to find a DBM author here? |
| 09:22.30 | Arrowmaster | they would get constantly bitched at for everything theyve pulled over the years like ripping code directly from bigwigs |
| 09:24.59 | DJJeff | ummmmmmmmm |
| 09:25.03 | DJJeff | IDK? |
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| 09:56.17 | Blia | hi |
| 09:57.06 | Blia | I installed an addon, chatbar, and I would like to reset its settings, how can I do that ? should I delete the "cache" folder ? |
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| 09:58.17 | Kaso | Blia: inside WTF you can navigate down into the SavedVariables folder for either realm or charater and delete that |
| 09:58.30 | Blia | thank you |
| 09:58.44 | Kaso | there will be a file AddonName.lua |
| 09:58.55 | Kaso | and AddonName.lua.bak i think |
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| 09:59.09 | Fisker- | sockets a cogwheel |
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| 10:00.27 | Fisker- | Google just went down a terrible terrible path |
| 10:01.10 | jnwhiteh | mikma: was it you that wrote a TomTom_FriendFinder? |
| 10:01.48 | Fisker- | hey hey hey jnwhiteh |
| 10:02.23 | jnwhiteh | !addon TomTomTargetArrow |
| 10:02.24 | lua_bot | Found 0 addon results for 'TomTomTargetArrow': http://is.gd/doSMY |
| 10:02.30 | Fisker- | :( |
| 10:02.33 | Fisker- | hater |
| 10:02.35 | Fisker- | playerhater |
| 10:06.30 | Fisker- | i'm dying here jnwhiteh |
| 10:06.40 | jnwhiteh | k |
| 10:06.41 | Fisker- | how is the weather in the uk? |
| 10:06.48 | jnwhiteh | had our first rain for 2 weeks |
| 10:06.49 | jnwhiteh | overnight |
| 10:06.51 | jnwhiteh | allegedly |
| 10:06.56 | jnwhiteh | which is good for my garden |
| 10:06.58 | Fisker- | gief pl0x |
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| 10:12.26 | Fisker- | robokitty |
| 10:12.32 | Fisker- | pl0x |
| 10:12.51 | Fisker- | btw jnwhiteh |
| 10:12.57 | Fisker- | why did i disconnect earlier? |
| 10:13.04 | Fisker- | oh i didn't |
| 10:13.05 | Fisker- | i suck |
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| 10:15.14 | Fisker- | hey airtonix |
| 10:15.17 | Fisker- | it's getting hot in here |
| 10:15.31 | airtonix | shake your ass |
| 10:15.48 | Fisker- | i wish |
| 10:15.58 | airtonix | clearly unfappable |
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| 11:45.21 | harl | hi |
| 11:50.36 | Maldivia | howdy |
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| 12:00.13 | mikma | jnwhiteh: yeah, it was me |
| 12:00.32 | mikma | jnwhiteh: or something like that... lets see |
| 12:00.40 | jnwhiteh | k |
| 12:01.20 | mikma | jnwhiteh: http://mikma-wow.googlecode.com/svn/branches/FriendlyArrow/ |
| 12:01.48 | mikma | someone else wrote something like it, too |
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| 12:17.20 | Mikk | mikma can't code, hth, ymmv, hand |
| 12:18.54 | mikma | there's no need to state the obvious, d'uh |
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| 12:33.07 | Kraps | omg these name are awesome http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/ |
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| 12:34.44 | Fisker | Kraps |
| 12:34.47 | Fisker | it's getting hot in here |
| 12:34.54 | Fisker | so take off all my clothes |
| 12:35.35 | Lopeppeppy | Why is he wearing your clothes, Fisker? |
| 12:35.56 | Kraps | ^ |
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| 12:36.44 | Fisker | You should know all about such awkard social situations Lopeppeppy |
| 12:37.35 | Lopeppeppy | Well, we call them the "walk of shame" around here, Fisker. This is why it always pays to know where your towel is. |
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| 12:38.17 | Kraps | also http://hasthelargehadroncolliderdestroyedtheworldyet.com/ |
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| 12:49.31 | Kraps | herp http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25968668631&sid=1 |
| 12:51.55 | amro | that guy is a few years late |
| 12:54.54 | Fisker | it's so hot in here Kraps |
| 12:55.03 | Kraps | dude |
| 12:55.06 | Mirrormn | lua> print("$f":gsub("$f", "fun")) |
| 12:55.06 | lua_bot | Mirrormn: luabot:1: ')' expected near ':' |
| 12:55.14 | Fisker | gear does have significance |
| 12:55.26 | Kraps | i will not be your butt buddy |
| 12:55.36 | Fisker | When we started our WoW career DPS was around 3000-4000 |
| 12:55.40 | Fisker | now it's 3 times that amount |
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| 12:55.47 | Fisker | wotlk career of course |
| 12:56.14 | Mirrormn | lua> f = "$f"; print(f:gsub("$f", "fun")) |
| 12:56.15 | lua_bot | Mirrormn: fun, 1 |
| 12:56.16 | Fisker | if anything gear have probably gone out of control |
| 12:56.23 | Fisker | which they're adjusting for in cataclysm so that's nice too |
| 12:56.25 | Mirrormn | I thought you could use the other notation too |
| 12:56.31 | Mirrormn | oh well |
| 12:56.50 | Mirrormn | gear is a little out of control in wotlk, but I think they also did a lot of upward adjustment of talents |
| 12:57.11 | Fisker | True that |
| 12:57.25 | Fisker | I actually think the new talent spec thing will be awesome |
| 12:57.27 | Mirrormn | also, tier 10 set bonuses in particular are kind of super overpowered |
| 12:57.35 | Fisker | provided they can pull off some interesting talents |
| 12:58.00 | Mirrormn | a few people in my guild are in the beta, they keep talking about how awesome it is |
| 12:58.03 | Mirrormn | drives me nuts -.- |
| 12:58.54 | Mirrormn | lua> f = "$f"; f = f:gsub("$f", "fun"); print(f); |
| 12:58.54 | lua_bot | Mirrormn: fun |
| 12:59.14 | Fisker | well the talent changes aren't in the beta yet |
| 12:59.35 | Mirrormn | well I wouldn't know! |
| 12:59.41 | Mirrormn | blaaargh |
| 13:00.00 | Kraps | Fisker would\ |
| 13:00.13 | Kraps | hes in the beta |
| 13:00.17 | Fisker | fuck you |
| 13:00.21 | Mirrormn | Fisker can go to hell tbh |
| 13:00.26 | Kraps | OH WAIT |
| 13:00.31 | Fisker | we're both being trolled Mirrormn |
| 13:00.43 | Mirrormn | NOOO I'VE BEEN TROLLED |
| 13:00.55 | Mirrormn | commits sepuku |
| 13:01.01 | Fisker | you would |
| 13:01.05 | Mirrormn | I cannot live with this dishonor |
| 13:01.07 | Kraps | MY BAD I CONFUSED YOU WITH SOMEONE WHO IS ACTUALLY IN BETA |
| 13:01.18 | Torhal | stabs Fisker with a beta key. |
| 13:01.20 | Fisker | i will hurt you Kraps |
| 13:01.23 | Mirrormn | slaps Kraps |
| 13:01.29 | Fisker | no beta keys Torhal |
| 13:01.39 | Torhal | I didn't say for which game! |
| 13:01.40 | Fisker | though i don't know if that's the case anymore since Blizzard fixed teh sploits |
| 13:02.05 | Fisker | (sploits being an understanding of XML) |
| 13:02.51 | Mirrormn | lua> f = nil; f:gsub("$f", "fun"); print(f); |
| 13:02.52 | lua_bot | Mirrormn: luabot:1: attempt to index global 'f' (a nil value) |
| 13:03.19 | Mirrormn | I probably should have known that one |
| 13:03.25 | Mirrormn | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:04.22 | Mirrormn | lua> f = "$f"; f and f = f:gsub("$f", "fun"); print(f); |
| 13:04.23 | lua_bot | Mirrormn: luabot:1: '=' expected near 'and' |
| 13:07.27 | Kraps | off to work |
| 13:17.19 | airtonix | is that what you call it ? |
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| 13:28.12 | Ycarene | Can I solicit an opinion that is related to wow, but not necessarily to addon development? |
| 13:30.14 | Lopeppeppy | Sure, give us a shot. We love to debate! |
| 13:31.10 | Ycarene | If I queue as a tank to a random dungeon (and only a tank since I have no DPS gear) and end up in a group with another tanking class with considerably better tanking gear, should I be obligated to allow them to tank instead? |
| 13:31.27 | Mirrormn | nope |
| 13:31.43 | Lopeppeppy | 90% of the time, the group will say yes. I personally say "no". |
| 13:31.58 | Mirrormn | well, "obligated" is the key word |
| 13:32.06 | Lopeppeppy | If they took you on as the tank, that's what you signed on for. If you can't do it, and they prefer someone else, just leave the group and re-queue. |
| 13:32.12 | Mirrormn | the group might prefer for that person to tank, but there's no obligation |
| 13:32.57 | Mirrormn | of course, if your group demands it, it's usually best to just play along |
| 13:33.38 | Lopeppeppy | Always depends on how badly you want the dungeon, and what the group demands. This is why most tanks prefer to be the group leader. :) |
| 13:33.45 | Mirrormn | one time, I queued as a tank for a random heroic on my usually-holy paladin, just to get some experience tanking |
| 13:33.53 | Mirrormn | and I got HoR |
| 13:34.07 | Ycarene | I had joined a group for HOK, there was a DK with 40k hp, and I had queued to tank with my 25k pally, the dk said he should tank, when the question was asked who was taking I responded that I was, to which the mage (I think, I really can't remember) pointed out that he was only 3k behind me in hp and he was a clothie. |
| 13:34.30 | Mirrormn | and as I came in, I noticed the guy who was assigned to heal had significantly better tanking gear than me, and approximately equal holy gear |
| 13:34.48 | Lopeppeppy | If you're undergeared compared to the rest of the group, that's one thing, Ycarene. |
| 13:34.48 | Ycarene | I ended up tanking and we killed every boss with no deaths. |
| 13:35.46 | Mirrormn | we wiped on like the 4th wave |
| 13:35.46 | Ycarene | lopeppeppy - I can't control what gear the other people are wearing. |
| 13:35.46 | Mirrormn | so I suggested to the other guy that we switch |
| 13:35.46 | Ycarene | But I'm never going to get better at tanking if I let better geared players carry me. |
| 13:35.47 | Mirrormn | and then we were fine |
| 13:35.54 | Lopeppeppy | No, but if you're significanty undergeared compared to them, that can be a cue to you that you might want to swap with the other player. And run a few dungeons a tier downward. |
| 13:36.06 | Mirrormn | that story was not as exciting as I thought it would be when I started telling it |
| 13:36.18 | Lopeppeppy | It's another criterion, not THE criterion. |
| 13:36.37 | Mirrormn | well, one thing is |
| 13:36.58 | Mirrormn | it's very very difficult to keep aggro off an ICC-geared dps if you're a just-starting-out tank |
| 13:37.01 | Ycarene | Lopeppeppy - I can't control what "tier" I get either, and after getting my tanking trinket from ToC, I feel no good reason to go back to normals. |
| 13:37.30 | Lopeppeppy | You can certainly drop and re-queue to get what you want in dungeon choices. |
| 13:37.32 | Mirrormn | and there's no reason to have a big aggro struggle throughout the instance and slow everything down, if you don't have to |
| 13:37.37 | Ycarene | Mirrormn - That's an issue that I've encountered, and it's also terribly unfair to roll on tanking gear if you're not the tank. |
| 13:37.47 | Mirrormn | eh... |
| 13:37.52 | Mirrormn | it's slightly unfair |
| 13:38.09 | Lopeppeppy | Give the tank first shot, and then take it if it's not an upgrade. Or decide at the very beginning that you're both rolling on tank gear, so that's known from the start. Both fair. |
| 13:38.19 | Mirrormn | yar |
| 13:38.30 | Mirrormn | my motto for loot is, when in doubt, work it out beforehand |
| 13:38.41 | Mirrormn | I wish more people would follow it |
| 13:38.49 | Lopeppeppy | Always always. *nod* |
| 13:39.02 | Mirrormn | and Lopepeppy, you can't just leave a group and requeue |
| 13:39.10 | Ycarene | Point is, though, I'm playing to tank, not to DPS, I'm not going to learn if I'm stuck trying to eke damage out of a tanking spec. |
| 13:39.16 | Lopeppeppy | It takes time, sure. But you *can*. |
| 13:39.18 | Mirrormn | there's a hefty cooldown period |
| 13:39.34 | Mirrormn | I don't remember if it's 15 or 30 minutes now but it's pretty substantial |
| 13:39.55 | Mirrormn | with a cooldown that long you'd be a fool to drop out of anything but the very worst groups |
| 13:40.01 | Lopeppeppy | More or less than running a dungeon you don't want, in a role you don't want, for not being able to roll on the gear you DO want? |
| 13:40.25 | Mirrormn | mm, if they won't let you roll on the gear |
| 13:40.33 | Mirrormn | then maybe there's a point |
| 13:40.58 | Mirrormn | but if someone has better enough gear than you that he is superceding you as the tank, I can't imagine he would need anything from that instance |
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| 13:41.52 | Mirrormn | anyway, Ycarene, I think that argument really only holds water if this kind of thing happens to you all the time |
| 13:41.57 | Ycarene | I'm thinking though that until I can get better gear that I'm going to drop heroic ICC groups, simply because the "gearscore" requirements for those dungeons (especially for tanks) is a little on the lax side. |
| 13:42.49 | Mirrormn | well I mean, a ret paladin with righteous fury on can tank a non-icc heroic |
| 13:43.14 | Ycarene | Mirrormn - I kind of does, about 1 in three groups I end up with someone who queued both dps and tanking and they got the dps role. |
| 13:43.31 | Mirrormn | huh |
| 13:43.53 | Mirrormn | when I was gearing up my paladin to tank a couple weeks ago, that only happened to me like once in 50 runs or something |
| 13:44.06 | Ycarene | What battlegroup are you in? |
| 13:44.11 | Mirrormn | Reckoning |
| 13:44.19 | Ycarene | Maybe Rampage is different. |
| 13:44.35 | Ycarene | Horde or ally |
| 13:44.41 | Mirrormn | horde |
| 13:45.11 | Mirrormn | our queue times are like 2 minutes for a healer, 5-10 minutes for a dps, and always instant for a tank |
| 13:45.30 | Mirrormn | I don't think I've ever heard of someone queuing as tank/dps and getting the dps role |
| 13:45.40 | Ycarene | I think the horde to ally ratio on rampage is tilted steeply in the hordes favor, meaning fewer ally people queue. |
| 13:46.12 | Ycarene | Most of the time my queue times for tank are close to instant, for dps it can run from 15 to 45 minutes, not sure on healers, I don't play one yet. |
| 13:48.21 | Ycarene | I'm not sure why its been happening like that (queueing for dps/tank and getting dps) unless rampages' queueing is screwed up. |
| 13:49.48 | Fisker | it's getting hot in here btw Lopeppeppy |
| 13:50.13 | Ycarene | It could be that there aren't always 5 or more people queued up and the matching system sees 3 dps one healer one tank (being that I queue only as tank) and it sets them as dps since I'm not set as dps. |
| 13:50.43 | Mirrormn | probably |
| 13:51.23 | Mirrormn | when, if it was smart, it would wait for a dps-only to queue and save the dps/tank for the next group? |
| 13:51.32 | Mirrormn | that's not really reliable matchmaking behavior, though |
| 13:51.46 | *** join/#wowuidev Kazie (Kazie@188.114.185.143) |
| 13:52.41 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker, drink more water, or take a cool shower. |
| 13:54.21 | Fisker | i would take a cool shower |
| 13:55.34 | Mirrormn | Fisker, I'll cool your hot heart with a cool island song |
| 13:55.58 | Mirrormn | or maybe I'll melt your icy heart with a hot island song |
| 13:56.09 | Ycarene | So, any advice on what I should look to get next? |
| 13:56.18 | Fisker | diabetes |
| 13:56.28 | Fisker | btw |
| 13:56.33 | Mirrormn | what to get next? |
| 13:56.37 | Fisker | what's this exploit i hear about hordes being able to move while casting? |
| 13:56.38 | Fisker | i call hax |
| 13:56.59 | Mirrormn | we're just cooler than you |
| 13:57.00 | Spejnar | only cows |
| 13:57.01 | Ycarene | Yeah, for my pally, I'm trying to figure out what I should spend my badges on next. |
| 13:57.14 | Mirrormn | triumph or frost? |
| 13:57.15 | Fisker | Spejnar oh but hooooow? |
| 13:57.24 | Fisker | some kind of sploits with the warstomp ability? |
| 13:57.29 | Ycarene | Triumph, frost is still coming in a bit slow. |
| 13:57.34 | Spejnar | start casting warstomp, start moving before its done and spam another ability |
| 13:57.43 | Fisker | too easy |
| 13:57.46 | *** join/#wowuidev nuoHep (~nuohep@89.222.156.36) |
| 13:58.46 | Ycarene | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Destromath&cn=Pella |
| 13:59.49 | Mirrormn | probably save for t9 head or gloves |
| 14:01.00 | Ycarene | Should I get some of the crafted stuff too, like the chestplate of the white knight? |
| 14:01.29 | Mirrormn | well, I did, but I had a lot of money |
| 14:01.59 | Ycarene | I've got a ton of badges on my rogue I can spend for orbs |
| 14:02.06 | *** join/#wowuidev Jamash (~chatzilla@99-92-174-69.lightspeed.iplsin.sbcglobal.net) |
| 14:05.59 | *** join/#wowuidev foxlit (~foxlit@0x573e6bae.alb2nxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) |
| 14:09.29 | Mirrormn | lua> t = {$f = "fun"}; print(t.$f); |
| 14:09.29 | lua_bot | Mirrormn: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '$' |
| 14:09.38 | Mirrormn | fair enough |
| 14:09.39 | *** join/#wowuidev Shirik|Gh (~mpdelbuon@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik) |
| 14:09.39 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik|Gh] by ChanServ |
| 14:10.47 | Mirrormn | actually |
| 14:10.55 | Mirrormn | lua> t = {$f = "fun"}; print(t["$f"]); |
| 14:10.56 | lua_bot | Mirrormn: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '$' |
| 14:11.11 | Mirrormn | lua> t = {["$f"] = "fun"}; print(t.$f); |
| 14:11.12 | lua_bot | Mirrormn: luabot:1: '<name>' expected near '$' |
| 14:11.29 | Mirrormn | lua> t = {["$f"] = "fun"}; print(t["$f"]); |
| 14:11.29 | lua_bot | Mirrormn: fun |
| 14:11.36 | Shirik|Gh | what are you doing |
| 14:11.49 | Mirrormn | just checking my syntax |
| 14:12.51 | DJJeff | !addon DBM |
| 14:12.52 | lua_bot | Found 23 addon results for 'DBM': http://is.gd/dp7s9 |
| 14:13.21 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 14:13.23 | Fisker | WHAT ARE YOU DOING? |
| 14:13.34 | DJJeff | DBM: Wintergrasp ? |
| 14:13.36 | DJJeff | lol |
| 14:13.49 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7iv7VNTkEA |
| 14:13.49 | Shirik | banning people from my bug tracker |
| 14:13.51 | Shirik | what are you doing |
| 14:14.34 | *** join/#wowuidev sioraiocht (~tomh@unaffiliated/sioraiocht) |
| 14:16.01 | DJJeff | http://i30.tinypic.com/28v934l.jpg |
| 14:16.08 | DJJeff | im #5 DPS on this!!!!! |
| 14:16.17 | DJJeff | but I never get invited back |
| 14:16.21 | DJJeff | people hate me |
| 14:16.31 | foxlit | yowch |
| 14:17.04 | DJJeff | yes a frost mage is #5 on the recount charts |
| 14:17.15 | DJJeff | in 25 man icc rotface |
| 14:17.35 | Mirrormn | doing "good" damage is still bad if you're frost. |
| 14:17.38 | Mirrormn | end of story! |
| 14:17.46 | foxlit | I'm too distracted by your interface to look at recount. |
| 14:17.46 | Mikk | in fairness. if anyone does less than 10k in icc with current buffs in a 25man raid ... |
| 14:18.01 | Mikk | they should get better gear and/or l2p |
| 14:18.48 | DJJeff | this is on Venture Co realm |
| 14:18.54 | DJJeff | a fucking RP PVP realm |
| 14:18.56 | Mirrormn | pfft everyone always thinks everyone else's interface is terrible |
| 14:19.15 | foxlit | Mirrormn: obviously :P |
| 14:19.22 | DJJeff | wanna see my new UI? |
| 14:19.23 | Mikk | well i'm on a fucking backwater PvE realm :P |
| 14:19.36 | Mikk | and my 2nd alt does better than half that raid! :P |
| 14:19.38 | foxlit | I wonder if I have a screenshot |
| 14:19.42 | DJJeff | http://i29.tinypic.com/2qlx2r6.jpg |
| 14:19.51 | DJJeff | ^^^^^^^ my new ui |
| 14:20.22 | DJJeff | I am in love with ark invintory |
| 14:20.40 | Stanzilla | half your screen is ark inventory |
| 14:20.55 | Mirrormn | yeah I bet he raids with all those windows open |
| 14:20.55 | foxlit | ... I don't have a raid shot. |
| 14:21.02 | DJJeff | I have AI closed when im raiding :) |
| 14:21.13 | *** join/#wowuidev robokitty (~robotusch@50A2E67F.flatrate.dk) |
| 14:21.15 | DJJeff | I was just showing it off |
| 14:21.45 | DJJeff | I wanna move to a new realm....... but I dont know what realm wants me |
| 14:21.46 | foxlit | And explorer doesn't thumbnail TGAs. |
| 14:21.52 | foxlit | buff plx. |
| 14:21.58 | Mirrormn | I generally try to optimize my interface more towards being able to see the information I need when I need it at all times |
| 14:22.10 | Mirrormn | instead of making look pretty with custom textures and such |
| 14:22.14 | Mirrormn | *making it |
| 14:22.24 | DJJeff | I enjoy the prettyness |
| 14:22.43 | DJJeff | its distractions cause I quest alone an awful lot |
| 14:22.47 | Mirrormn | well I don't mind prettyness, it's just not a priority |
| 14:23.03 | DJJeff | I spent 6+ hours setting up fubar |
| 14:23.09 | DJJeff | and 2+ setting up XPERL |
| 14:23.25 | DJJeff | 4+ setting up AI |
| 14:23.25 | Lopeppeppy | 6 hours on fubar? Ouch. |
| 14:23.37 | Lopeppeppy | Any addon takes me more than 15 minutes, I'm not likely to use it! |
| 14:23.55 | Mirrormn | to be fair, he's got a ton of stuff on that fubar |
| 14:24.08 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, but 6 hours worth of stuff? |
| 14:24.12 | Stanzilla | http://img189.imageshack.us/f/myuijp.jpg/ :o |
| 14:24.16 | Torhal | I have more on my three Bazooka bars, and it took me maybe 20 minutes to set up |
| 14:24.18 | Mirrormn | like wow, a ton of stuff |
| 14:24.20 | DJJeff | recount.... gearscore..... omen threat...... all work out of the box |
| 14:24.33 | *** join/#wowuidev Satisfyme (5da2300a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.162.48.10) |
| 14:24.34 | DJJeff | and deadly boss mods |
| 14:24.53 | DJJeff | imageshack = fail |
| 14:25.01 | DJJeff | tinypic.com = win |
| 14:25.42 | DJJeff | your full URL is |
| 14:25.43 | DJJeff | http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/4079/myuijp.jpg |
| 14:26.00 | DJJeff | raw image link without the extra crap |
| 14:26.22 | Stanzilla | I copied that from from a forum where I used the thumbnail mode, I'd pasted the full url otherwise :p |
| 14:26.26 | Stanzilla | -from |
| 14:26.45 | DJJeff | hrmmmm |
| 14:26.52 | DJJeff | the glossyness of your buffs |
| 14:26.54 | DJJeff | are cool |
| 14:27.35 | DJJeff | the mobs HP BARS are kinda..... distracting |
| 14:27.52 | Mirrormn | don't hate on ThreatPlates |
| 14:27.58 | Mirrormn | ThreatPlates is fucking crucial |
| 14:27.59 | DJJeff | lol |
| 14:28.06 | DJJeff | are you tank? |
| 14:28.12 | Mirrormn | sometimes |
| 14:28.12 | Stanzilla | look at the dps |
| 14:28.16 | Stanzilla | if shit turns red |
| 14:28.16 | DJJeff | your bottom part looks nice and clean |
| 14:28.17 | Mirrormn | usually mage |
| 14:28.19 | Stanzilla | I'm fucking dead :D |
| 14:28.22 | Stanzilla | I need to see that^^ |
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| 14:28.42 | Stanzilla | well not dead but I have to fade |
| 14:28.44 | Torhal | Stanzilla: Foof. |
| 14:28.45 | foxlit | I suppose blaming the tanks for failing is out of the question? |
| 14:28.48 | Stanzilla | Torhal: :p |
| 14:29.09 | Stanzilla | foxlit: no no, I just pull instead of the tank, that's the problem |
| 14:29.20 | DJJeff | 48k dps? |
| 14:29.26 | DJJeff | is that real? |
| 14:29.46 | Stanzilla | yeah |
| 14:29.54 | foxlit | It's trash, who cares :) |
| 14:30.00 | Mirrormn | 48k dps in the middle of a 20 mob aoe pull |
| 14:30.08 | Stanzilla | nothing special |
| 14:30.19 | DJJeff | I orgasm when I hit 15-20k dps |
| 14:30.21 | DJJeff | on trash |
| 14:30.31 | Stanzilla | try feral druid! |
| 14:30.34 | DJJeff | I need to be on realms like yours |
| 14:30.37 | Mirrormn | I like hitting over 20k single target |
| 14:30.37 | Stanzilla | or DK |
| 14:30.55 | DJJeff | fuck these faggot ass RP realms |
| 14:30.58 | foxlit | feral druid would be swipe spam, which isn't really all that fun |
| 14:31.06 | Mirrormn | doesn't happen as often as I'd like now that I'm always fire instead of arcane |
| 14:31.06 | Stanzilla | I only hit 20k+ single target dps on heroism-from-the-start bosses |
| 14:31.08 | Stanzilla | like arthas hc |
| 14:31.15 | *** part/#wowuidev Lopeppeppy (~Lopeppepp@141.222.29.18) |
| 14:31.15 | foxlit | rogues/death knights are nice; especially on that sindragosa whelp pull. |
| 14:31.29 | Stanzilla | DJJeff: I'm on a RP realm :( |
| 14:31.30 | Mirrormn | we bloodlust on the start of a few fights |
| 14:31.54 | Mirrormn | but even then I usually only get to like 18 or 19k |
| 14:31.57 | Stanzilla | Mirrormn: yeah arthas, rotface, saurfang (with zerg tactics) |
| 14:32.31 | Mirrormn | marrowgar, festergut |
| 14:32.49 | Mirrormn | we bloodlusted at the beginning of BQL one time but that was a mistake |
| 14:32.50 | DJJeff | I wanna move to a new realm seriously |
| 14:33.03 | DJJeff | where I can progress up to doing 40k dps |
| 14:33.10 | Stanzilla | we always do rotface first so we are sated on festergut^^ |
| 14:33.16 | Mirrormn | haha |
| 14:33.21 | DJJeff | I have no fucking school or work or wife agro |
| 14:33.26 | DJJeff | so besides sleeping |
| 14:33.33 | DJJeff | I dedicate my ass |
| 14:33.38 | DJJeff | to sorry ass fucking realms |
| 14:33.43 | DJJeff | that quit @ saurfang |
| 14:33.47 | DJJeff | and im fucking pisses |
| 14:33.50 | DJJeff | pissed |
| 14:34.18 | Stanzilla | hm we pug 9/12 heroic on my server :P |
| 14:34.19 | DJJeff | so a few friends play on VeCo..... fuck them |
| 14:34.22 | Slackwise | :O http://appinventor.googlelabs.com/about/ |
| 14:34.34 | DJJeff | I wanna down LK |
| 14:34.38 | DJJeff | before Cata |
| 14:34.57 | *** join/#wowuidev Lopeppeppy (~Lopeppepp@141.222.29.18) |
| 14:34.57 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Lopeppeppy] by ChanServ |
| 14:35.38 | DJJeff | Slackwise.... where is your realm on wowprogress.com |
| 14:35.46 | Slackwise | DJJeff: ? |
| 14:35.49 | DJJeff | what rank |
| 14:36.22 | Slackwise | http://www.wowprogress.com/pve/us/gnomeregan |
| 14:37.10 | DJJeff | hrmmmmm |
| 14:37.18 | DJJeff | rank 220 on http://www.wowprogress.com/realms/rank/us |
| 14:37.18 | Slackwise | Wtf, my guild ended up at 50 now. |
| 14:37.25 | Slackwise | Sadness. |
| 14:37.37 | Slackwise | Oh, because it's inaccurate, that's why. |
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| 14:38.19 | DJJeff | The Venture Co is somehow ranked higher |
| 14:38.26 | DJJeff | then gnomer |
| 14:38.43 | Slackwise | Wtf, my Warlock left the server... |
| 14:38.46 | Slackwise | When did.... what... |
| 14:38.52 | Lopeppeppy | Argent Dawn, my first home. 88 |
| 14:38.58 | Shirik | tackles Lopeppeppy |
| 14:39.11 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr. |
| 14:40.18 | Slackwise | Ugh. I don't think we'll ever down LK at this rate. |
| 14:40.29 | Slackwise | We have our best players split across 3 10man teams. |
| 14:40.42 | Slackwise | If we were to take the best players from the 3 teams and make one 10man team, we'd be done. :/ |
| 14:40.46 | Slackwise | sighs. |
| 14:41.02 | DJJeff | and thats why I hate wow |
| 14:41.10 | Stanzilla | DJJeff: tinypic sucks btw |
| 14:41.14 | DJJeff | too many GOOD PLAYERs are spread |
| 14:41.14 | Stanzilla | image looks blurry :( |
| 14:41.17 | DJJeff | across |
| 14:41.22 | Slackwise | DJJeff: Indeed. :/ |
| 14:41.55 | DJJeff | ack chatzilla makes noise when you say my nickname |
| 14:42.32 | DJJeff | I think the trick is..... |
| 14:42.39 | DJJeff | dont get sucked into the trolls |
| 14:42.43 | DJJeff | in trade chat |
| 14:42.50 | DJJeff | and be in a kick ass guild |
| 14:43.13 | Slackwise | For Cata, I think I'll manage to get my IRL friends to play again. |
| 14:43.21 | Stanzilla | http://i.imgur.com/zUsFy.jpg < happiest day in my whole wow-time :> |
| 14:43.22 | Slackwise | And move to my server for an IRL LAN party 10man raid... |
| 14:43.42 | DJJeff | you get put on /ignore if you fall victim to trade chat trolls |
| 14:44.05 | DJJeff | I would love todo a fucking LAN PARTY raid |
| 14:44.07 | Mirrormn | my guild has been wiping on defiles on HLK for like 5 weeks |
| 14:44.11 | Mirrormn | it's killin me |
| 14:44.26 | Stanzilla | yeah 95% are defile wipes for most of the guilds |
| 14:44.28 | Mirrormn | IT'S LITERALLY KILLING ME |
| 14:44.37 | *** join/#wowuidev sylvanaar_atwork (~sylvanaar@unaffiliated/sylvanaar) |
| 14:44.53 | Stanzilla | ^^ |
| 14:44.59 | foxlit | Stanzilla: I like your chat log |
| 14:45.01 | Stanzilla | melee defile in valk phase! |
| 14:45.03 | Stanzilla | wipe! |
| 14:45.06 | Stanzilla | foxlit: why? |
| 14:45.11 | foxlit | Not content with merely showing "earned the achievement" messages from your group and guild channels, |
| 14:45.25 | DJJeff | realm first? |
| 14:45.29 | Stanzilla | that's one of shadowed's addons |
| 14:45.33 | Stanzilla | DamnAchievementSpam or so |
| 14:46.02 | Stanzilla | or do you mean the fact that all you see is achievement spam? ^^ |
| 14:46.16 | foxlit | It's weird to see both the spam and the grouped spam. |
| 14:46.27 | foxlit | "Alice, Bob, Carol have earned the achievement..." |
| 14:47.24 | Stanzilla | I think the grouping does not work for realm first stull |
| 14:47.24 | Stanzilla | * |
| 14:47.26 | Stanzilla | stuff |
| 14:47.32 | foxlit | Mm, probably |
| 14:47.37 | Stanzilla | Shadowed knows |
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| 14:49.31 | Stanzilla | and I just noticed that my bars are not perfectly aligned *goes to fix* |
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| 14:54.52 | Fisker | hey Stanzilla |
| 14:54.59 | Fisker | not so hey Shirik |
| 14:55.08 | Stanzilla | hey Fisker |
| 14:55.22 | Fisker | it's WARM here |
| 14:56.47 | Stanzilla | way too warm |
| 14:57.41 | Fisker | yeah |
| 14:58.05 | Fisker | http://multimedia.ekstrabladet.dk/archive/00564/Motorvej_sp_ret_564074m.jpg <-no vacations for you |
| 14:58.44 | Mirrormn | hahaha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HE9OQ4FnkQ |
| 14:59.23 | Mirrormn | pretty good cover musically, too |
| 15:05.50 | Fisker | cog|work |
| 15:05.53 | Fisker | why don't you answer me? |
| 15:05.58 | cog|work | NO U! |
| 15:06.05 | Fisker | :( |
| 15:06.26 | Fisker | you're an engineering gem in Cataclysm cog|work |
| 15:06.30 | Fisker | how does that make you feel? |
| 15:06.40 | cog|work | wat |
| 15:07.00 | Fisker | exactly |
| 15:07.12 | Fisker | Fractured Cogwheel - +132 Mastery Rating |
| 15:07.13 | Fisker | etc. |
| 15:07.17 | Fisker | http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/59480/fractured-cogwheel/ |
| 15:07.19 | Duman- | haha |
| 15:07.44 | cog|work | i have my own socket! |
| 15:07.49 | cog|work | :P |
| 15:07.57 | Cide | you're a socket |
| 15:07.59 | Fisker | now give me a beta |
| 15:08.04 | Duman | "Only fits in a Cogwheel socket." |
| 15:08.16 | Fisker | if i hadn't told you, you wouldn't have known for another couple of hours |
| 15:08.22 | cog|work | i no rite! |
| 15:08.28 | Mikk | Fisker you... you... socket! |
| 15:08.38 | cog|work | are the sprocket sockets too? |
| 15:08.40 | cog|work | >< |
| 15:09.21 | cog|work | there* |
| 15:09.34 | Fisker | :o |
| 15:09.36 | Fisker | idk |
| 15:11.29 | Mikk | i'm sure you could socket a sprocket into fisker somewhere |
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| 15:14.03 | Maldivia | hmm, why do I have a feeling a thunderstorm is about to hit here... http://www.dmi.dk/dmi/200611090900_cmslyn3t.jpg |
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| 15:19.15 | Lopeppeppy | refuses to be socketed. |
| 15:19.30 | malreth | rockets Lopeppeppy |
| 15:20.35 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh! |
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| 15:26.52 | Mirrormn | hrm |
| 15:27.08 | Mirrormn | is there a quick way to get the size of a table with non-number keys? |
| 15:27.50 | cog|work | loop through all the keys with pairs |
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| 15:32.39 | Mirrormn | lua> print(table.concat({"one", "two"}, ", ", 1, 0)) |
| 15:32.39 | lua_bot | Mirrormn: No output |
| 15:33.30 | Mirrormn | does that mean an empty string, or nil? |
| 15:33.50 | Mirrormn | lua> print(nil) |
| 15:33.50 | lua_bot | Mirrormn: nil |
| 15:33.52 | Maldivia | lua> function tableSize(t) local c=0; for k,v in next,t do c=c+1 end return c end; print(tableSize({e=1,b=2,3,4,t=5})) |
| 15:33.52 | lua_bot | Maldivia: 5 |
| 15:34.20 | Mirrormn | lua> print("") |
| 15:34.20 | lua_bot | Mirrormn: No output |
| 15:34.32 | Mirrormn | so, empty string |
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| 15:37.37 | Mirrormn | oh actually |
| 15:37.46 | Mirrormn | I think my table had integer indices all along -.- |
| 15:38.59 | malreth | a table like {"ford", "clinton", "einstein", "socrates"} is in indexed array of size 4 |
| 15:40.26 | Maldivia | lua> #{e=1,b=2,3,4,t=5} |
| 15:40.27 | lua_bot | Maldivia: 2 |
| 15:40.35 | malreth | lua> t={"ford", "clinton", "einstein", "socrates"}; print(#t) |
| 15:40.35 | lua_bot | malreth: 4 |
| 15:42.33 | Mirrormn | lua> t={"ham","turkey","roast beef"};s=table.concat(t,", ",1,#t-1);s=s..((#t>1 and " and ") or "")..t[#t];print(s) |
| 15:42.34 | lua_bot | Mirrormn: ham, turkey and roast beef |
| 15:42.38 | Mirrormn | neat |
| 15:42.51 | Mihau | Torhal: It is done, enjoy! |
| 15:42.59 | Mirrormn | lua> t={"ham"};s=table.concat(t,", ",1,#t-1);s=s..((#t>1 and " and ") or "")..t[#t];print(s) |
| 15:42.59 | lua_bot | Mirrormn: ham |
| 15:43.10 | Mirrormn | lua> t={"ham","turkey"};s=table.concat(t,", ",1,#t-1);s=s..((#t>1 and " and ") or "")..t[#t];print(s) |
| 15:43.10 | lua_bot | Mirrormn: ham and turkey |
| 15:43.20 | Mirrormn | god now I am so hungry |
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| 16:05.12 | amro | http://kotaku.com/5584759/hayao-miyazaki-compares-ipad-use-to-masturbation |
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| 16:06.24 | Mirrormn | yeah, well, it's hayao miyazaki |
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| 16:07.10 | malreth | that's odd, considering that the Japanese LOVE masturbation |
| 16:07.39 | nicoli_s | miyazaki needs to make a new movie |
| 16:07.44 | Mirrormn | it's not "the japanese", it's fucking hayao miyazaki |
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| 16:10.12 | amro | malreth: maybe he's bothered that they're not actually masturbating |
| 16:10.38 | malreth | amro: that makes two of us |
| 16:14.24 | Maldivia | malreth: didn't you just post a link to an article about masturbation the other day+ |
| 16:14.38 | Fisker | hey amro |
| 16:14.41 | Fisker | not so hey malreth |
| 16:14.51 | malreth | Maldivia: you must have me confused with some other, less savory, malreth |
| 16:15.31 | malreth | i am an upstanding individual of impeccable moral standing |
| 16:16.02 | Lopeppeppy | He said "upstanding". Heh-heh |
| 16:16.11 | malreth | *snort* |
| 16:16.14 | Mirrormn | and then he also said "standing" |
| 16:16.16 | Fisker | if you were an upstanding individual of impeccable moral standing then i wouldn't have "not so hey"'d you |
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| 16:21.43 | Adys | Opinions needed |
| 16:22.19 | Adys | Unlocked android-based phone, good camera and touchscreen req. budget, 350 usd (275ish pounds) |
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| 16:22.30 | Lunessa | station! |
| 16:22.38 | Adys | Lunessa! |
| 16:22.41 | Adys | you any good with phones? |
| 16:23.00 | Lunessa | Depends on how you define "phone" and "good." |
| 16:23.15 | Adys | [17:22:18] <Adys> Unlocked android-based phone, good camera and touchscreen req. budget, 350 usd (275ish pounds) |
| 16:23.24 | Fisker | Nexus ONe. |
| 16:23.26 | Fisker | One* |
| 16:23.30 | durcyn | get an iphone, you consumer whore. |
| 16:23.31 | Fisker | Probably the only one too |
| 16:23.44 | Cide | why get an iphone again? |
| 16:23.48 | Cide | hi Adys |
| 16:24.03 | Adys | Fisker, i hear the touchscreen is kind of fail on the nexus one |
| 16:24.06 | Adys | I can't say myself |
| 16:24.12 | Fisker | unfortunately it kinda is |
| 16:24.17 | Cide | get a desire |
| 16:24.24 | Fisker | desire has a similar bug as well |
| 16:24.30 | Cide | haven't noticed anything myself |
| 16:24.32 | Cide | what's the issue? |
| 16:24.36 | Fisker | Infact i think the only highend android that doesn't have it is the Galaxy S |
| 16:24.39 | Adys | if it's software it can always be fixed |
| 16:24.47 | Fisker | if you cross the same axis it inverts the result |
| 16:24.51 | Fisker | and it's hardware unfortunately |
| 16:24.53 | malreth | nobody gets a touch screen smartphone because they want a good touch screen device... |
| 16:24.55 | Cide | what? |
| 16:24.57 | Fisker | Though they did do some changes in 2.2 to compensate |
| 16:25.01 | Lunessa | Nexus One was kind of not all that good anyway. Wifi support was poor (no PEAP support) and the touch screen was.. lame. |
| 16:25.05 | Fisker | i'll get a link |
| 16:25.24 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pU0R9tdodw8 |
| 16:25.27 | durcyn | seriously though, apple's the only manufacturer whose touch screen is worth a wet slap, sadly. HTC makes hardware for clowns. |
| 16:26.02 | Cide | the desire is very comparable to the iphone in terms of touch |
| 16:26.09 | Cide | and the user interface is imo smoother |
| 16:26.12 | Adys | desires Cide's touch |
| 16:26.29 | Adys | a lot of the iphone's touchscreen goodness is software |
| 16:26.35 | Adys | from what i could see anyway |
| 16:26.39 | Adys | but yeah it is really good |
| 16:26.59 | durcyn | i had to deal with my dad's Hero last week, half an inch on the edge of the screen just stopped registering touches |
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| 16:27.19 | Adys | So Cide what do you say, nexus, desire or galaxy? |
| 16:27.31 | sylvanaar_atwork | such fancy names |
| 16:27.53 | Fisker | what do you mean by unlocked anyway? |
| 16:28.07 | Fisker | The Nexus One is the only phone that allows you to unlock the bootloader officially if that's what you mean |
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| 16:28.23 | Cide | Adys, never tried galaxy |
| 16:28.26 | Cide | but the desire is amazing |
| 16:28.55 | Fisker | I'm very disappoint in popular brand names |
| 16:29.11 | Fisker | Stuff like Sony Ericsson, Nokia, Samsung and to a lesser extent even HTC never gets updated |
| 16:29.14 | Adys | Fisker, i thought most of the htc phones could? |
| 16:29.23 | Adys | htc android i mean |
| 16:29.26 | Cide | yep |
| 16:29.31 | Cide | 2.2 is coming out soon for htc sense |
| 16:29.39 | Cide | you can already use 2.2 non-sense afaik |
| 16:29.48 | Fisker | yeah you can root them, but they use various hacks to do so |
| 16:29.50 | malreth | coffee machine locked inside break room being used for meeting makes me urge to Murder Death Kill |
| 16:29.54 | Adys | ah |
| 16:30.00 | Adys | well not too bothered "officially" |
| 16:30.03 | Adys | as long as its doable |
| 16:30.14 | Cide | why do yo need to root it? |
| 16:30.16 | Fisker | Yeah i don't know about the galaxy though |
| 16:30.25 | Cide | you |
| 16:30.47 | NightHawkTheSane | malreth: just discreetly, and purposefully, walk in, get a cup of coffee, and walk out. |
| 16:30.53 | Adys | Cide, I don't like the idea of not being able to do so |
| 16:30.56 | Adys | it's just something with me |
| 16:31.03 | Cide | well you can always do it |
| 16:31.06 | Cide | just takes some hacking |
| 16:31.09 | Cide | there's no huge reason to do it though |
| 16:31.10 | durcyn | malreth: coffee is bad for you. |
| 16:31.21 | NightHawkTheSane | if anyone says anything, just shrug and say they shouldnt have had a meeting in the same room as the life support machine. |
| 16:31.32 | Cide | android at least doesn't prevent you from doing a lot of stuff |
| 16:31.42 | Adys | Cide, yeha i know, which is why im not getting an iphone |
| 16:31.50 | Cide | the desire even has usb tethering |
| 16:32.04 | Lunessa | malreth: at least you know how to use the Three Seashells. Want to go to Taco Bell later? |
| 16:32.05 | Cide | and wifi AP on 2.2 |
| 16:32.48 | Fisker | Anyway the best thing is probably going out and checking both the Desire and Galaxy S though |
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| 16:32.54 | Mirrormn | are we quoting demolition man in here? wuts goin on? |
| 16:33.00 | malreth | i just love discussions on people comparing rooted android phones to non-jailbreak iphones |
| 16:33.00 | Cide | anyway I haven't tried the galaxy S |
| 16:33.06 | Cide | but htc sense is great |
| 16:33.07 | Fisker | Or Nexus One, but i don't think that's really that available anymore |
| 16:33.12 | Adys | the desire is 360 pounds |
| 16:33.14 | Adys | which is a lot |
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| 16:33.17 | Cide | malreth, who is talking about rooted? |
| 16:33.30 | Fisker | I wish Google would make a Nexus Two, but they basically already said no :( |
| 16:33.40 | sylvanaar_atwork | Nexus X |
| 16:33.43 | Cide | Adys, yep |
| 16:33.43 | Mirrormn | it seems strange that nobody has even mentioned the EVO 4G yet |
| 16:33.52 | durcyn | Mirrormn: it's... not very good? |
| 16:33.57 | Cide | if you're living in the US, sure |
| 16:34.00 | malreth | Cide: ah... someone else was... you weren't |
| 16:34.08 | Adys | Cide: what makes it so pricy? |
| 16:34.14 | Cide | the desire? |
| 16:34.16 | Cide | its awesomeness I guess |
| 16:34.22 | Cide | it's pretty new though |
| 16:34.38 | Cide | most phones with the snapdragon processor are pretty expensive |
| 16:34.39 | durcyn | battery life is utter shit, wimax coverage is absolutely nowhere, and the company that provides said wimax is in the process of going bankrupt, so |
| 16:34.55 | Fisker | <3 HTC Evo 4G |
| 16:35.01 | Adys | Cide, what do you suggest just one rank lower? |
| 16:35.07 | Cide | no idea |
| 16:35.10 | Cide | only used the desire |
| 16:35.17 | Fisker | wasn't there also a problem with the phone grounding itself on conductive surfaces? |
| 16:35.20 | Cide | worth the money in any case |
| 16:35.28 | Fisker | i.e. causing a buttload of multitouch and even playback issues |
| 16:35.30 | Cide | if you can afford it |
| 16:35.38 | Cide | no clue on cheaper alternatives sadly |
| 16:35.43 | Adys | going by trends, what's the htc legend? |
| 16:35.52 | Cide | a new phone |
| 16:36.03 | Cide | not even sure it's released |
| 16:36.09 | Adys | mmk |
| 16:36.11 | Cide | but now that you say it I think that's a step down |
| 16:36.25 | Cide | I guess it may be released |
| 16:36.31 | Adys | 340 pounds |
| 16:36.40 | Cide | with htc sense too |
| 16:36.44 | Cide | that's a good phone I'm sure |
| 16:36.55 | Fisker | i always recalled the Legend as a pretty steep step down from the Desire |
| 16:36.56 | amro | that's heavy for a phone Adys |
| 16:37.01 | Adys | isnt it |
| 16:37.09 | Adys | also yeah if it's just 20 pounds less ill take the desire |
| 16:37.15 | Adys | anyway Im off |
| 16:37.19 | amro | you already have desire |
| 16:37.27 | Adys | laters, thanks for advices |
| 16:37.27 | Cide | ooh baby |
| 16:37.34 | malreth | ... |
| 16:37.41 | malreth | Harvey Pekar passed away |
| 16:37.58 | Fisker | they need to make a >4" phone with Moorestown btw |
| 16:38.10 | Cide | no idea who that is, sorry |
| 16:38.36 | malreth | Cide: http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=11143916 |
| 16:39.22 | Fisker | so how can it be? |
| 16:39.37 | Hjalte | Maldivia: Thunder in Ã
rhus! |
| 16:39.53 | Fisker | no Hjalte |
| 16:40.18 | Hjalte | Yes Hjalte |
| 16:40.30 | Fisker | no Fisker |
| 16:40.33 | Mirrormn | they had a moorestown phone running World of Warcraft on Engadget a while back |
| 16:40.38 | Fisker | exactly |
| 16:40.49 | Mirrormn | wackiness |
| 16:41.08 | Maldivia | Hjalte: judging from the DMI footage, it should be over in an hour or si |
| 16:43.48 | Fisker | or si? |
| 16:44.57 | Fisker | HVILKEN SI SNAKKER DU OM MALDIVIA? |
| 16:46.56 | Lunessa | all I can say is... running WoW on my phone seems to be a painful experience best wished on someone who doesn't love himself. |
| 16:48.51 | Fisker | Lunessa hdmi output and bluetooth mouse + keyboard |
| 16:48.51 | Fisker | :3 |
| 16:50.12 | Fisker | or someone needs to make some kind of power glove |
| 16:50.32 | Lunessa | fisker.... no, really, thanks. |
| 16:51.02 | Fisker | :(? |
| 16:52.21 | Lunessa | I'd much prefer a gesture interface that doesn't require me to wear hardware. |
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| 16:53.57 | Fisker | a huge helmet that interprets your brains signales then? |
| 16:54.33 | Lunessa | how about something like an rfid sticker that does that? Much better, ok? |
| 16:54.40 | malreth | Fisker: the problem with that kind of interface is it'd just cause my mage to keep stripping herself. |
| 16:55.02 | Fisker | or it would automatically launch your media player and watch porn? |
| 16:55.08 | Lunessa | ... this is why there is no "strip others" feature in the client. |
| 16:55.21 | malreth | Lunessa: i actually wrote an addon that did that |
| 16:55.22 | Fisker | there is |
| 16:55.26 | Fisker | the googles |
| 16:55.30 | Fisker | THE GOGGLES |
| 16:55.31 | Lunessa | they do nothing |
| 16:55.38 | Fisker | actually they do :( |
| 16:55.47 | Lunessa | (I have the ones from beerfest) |
| 16:56.25 | malreth | Seriously... It opened the dress-up frame on your target and you could click a button to strip them. I called it Defabricator. |
| 16:56.48 | Fisker | http://www.wowhead.com/item=40895 |
| 16:56.49 | Fisker | ;3 |
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| 16:57.26 | Fisker | Adys is back to complain about our poor advice :( |
| 16:58.10 | malreth | i might still have the code for it somewhere... dunno if it still works |
| 16:58.15 | Adys | yes |
| 16:58.17 | Adys | you all suck |
| 16:58.21 | Adys | btw Cide im getting a desire |
| 16:58.40 | amro | to do what exactly? |
| 16:58.48 | amro | feel free to provide graphic detail |
| 17:00.10 | malreth | feel free to provide detailed graphics |
| 17:01.00 | Cide | Adys, awesome |
| 17:07.59 | Fisker | Cide |
| 17:08.05 | Cide | Fisker |
| 17:08.06 | Fisker | Â |
| 17:09.16 | Fisker | mwuhahahaha |
| 17:09.42 | amro | Cide where's my beta key |
| 17:09.45 | amro | I feel like Fisker now |
| 17:09.59 | Cide | in my pocket |
| 17:10.22 | Fisker | beta me |
| 17:10.27 | amro | lies, I couldn't even find a wallet in your pocket |
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| 17:16.19 | Lunessa | Cide only keeps three things in his pocket. Your beta key, sarcasm, and the ability to kick your ass. |
| 17:17.18 | Cide | Lunessa speaks the truth |
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| 17:20.29 | NightHawkTheSane | ... so.. that's NOT a banana? |
| 17:20.36 | NightHawkTheSane | backs away... quickly... |
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| 17:27.36 | Fisker | BETA ME |
| 17:28.52 | Lopeppeppy | beat you? |
| 17:29.04 | amro | ~lart Fisker |
| 17:29.04 | purl | hereby declares Fisker a troll |
| 17:29.14 | amro | oh wow, purl is quite the detective |
| 17:29.18 | Fisker | sure Lopeppeppy |
| 17:29.19 | Fisker | if you find me |
| 17:29.22 | Fisker | bring a whip too |
| 17:30.46 | Fisker | i'm blackmailing Kirkburn for a beta too |
| 17:31.28 | amro | we already know all of his dark secrets |
| 17:31.49 | Lunessa | Seriously, even the time he dressed up in a tutu and danced on tables. |
| 17:32.43 | Ressy | Everyone does that at least once in their life.:P |
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| 17:34.33 | Lopeppeppy | I was supposed to wear a tutu? |
| 17:36.15 | Lunessa | No Lopeppeppy - you're supposed to wear next to nothing. :P |
| 17:37.17 | Cairenn | has danced on a table before, but can assure you that she has never worn a tutu in her life |
| 17:37.21 | NightHawkTheSane | a tutu is next to nothing.. |
| 17:37.25 | NightHawkTheSane | i mean, if thats the only thing |
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| 17:37.57 | Ressy | Was this alcohol-induced Cairenn? |
| 17:37.59 | Lunessa | Cairenn: So that would be why you limited yourself to two drinks in public? |
| 17:38.12 | Cairenn | Ressy and Lunessa: indeed |
| 17:38.23 | Lunessa | nods wisely. |
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| 17:38.25 | Ressy | *nods* I've done the same |
| 17:38.37 | nicoli_s | but not at blizzcon right? we gotta party there! |
| 17:38.58 | Fisker | oh great, thanks a lot |
| 17:39.01 | Cairenn | nicoli_s: ;) |
| 17:39.02 | Fisker | "Hey lets do tribute to insanity" |
| 17:39.09 | Fisker | Gets to anub'arak |
| 17:39.21 | Fisker | "Hey lets use army of the dead and burrow half the burrowers" |
| 17:39.50 | Lopeppeppy | Limiting the drinks = limiting the chances of not wearing a tutu. *wise nod* |
| 17:39.58 | Cairenn | bingo |
| 17:40.36 | Cairenn | errr, no |
| 17:40.38 | Cairenn | heh |
| 17:40.43 | Cairenn | well, it depends |
| 17:41.01 | Lopeppeppy | I find that I'm much less likely to remember to wear the tutu if I'm drunk. :) |
| 17:41.09 | NightHawkTheSane | .... |
| 17:41.17 | NightHawkTheSane | keeps his mouth shut |
| 17:42.04 | Lunessa | So, Lopeppeppy need a ticket to BlizzCon? :P |
| 17:42.56 | Fisker | i need a ticket to blizzzcon |
| 17:43.44 | nicoli_s | you can have mine fisker, ill just need another ticket + travel expenses in exchange for it |
| 17:44.16 | Fisker | :( |
| 17:44.20 | cog|work | http://blog.blowfish.com/culture/how-sexism-hurts-men-undateable/1264 |
| 17:44.27 | Fisker | someone needs to make "It's a trap"-addon for shadow traps |
| 17:44.56 | Lunessa | I have an extra. Available if someone wants to pay for it - I'm not even marking it up. |
| 17:46.39 | malreth | cog|work: that book probably has a lot to say about me and all the things i'm doing wrong |
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| 17:48.45 | Cairenn | huggles Seerah |
| 17:49.04 | malreth | although, "Instead, go with a polo shirt or a long-sleeved, lightweight cotton oxford shirt in white, pale blue, or a mild stripe" does describe a lot of my wardrobe |
| 17:49.08 | Seerah | huggles Cairenn |
| 17:49.12 | Fisker | tackles Cairenn and Seerah |
| 17:49.19 | Fisker | like dominos |
| 17:49.21 | Cairenn | oofs and falls over |
| 17:49.27 | Fisker | no fair play here |
| 17:49.56 | NightHawkTheSane | malreth: i think that book has a lot to say. all of it wrong to someone. |
| 17:50.05 | Lopeppeppy | I guess you're dateable, malreth? |
| 17:50.18 | malreth | Lopeppeppy: wanna test that hypothesis? |
| 17:50.45 | amro | "you want to be a dateable man â if you want to be manly enough to deserve a woman (although not too manly!) â you canât have a cat." |
| 17:50.54 | amro | +If |
| 17:51.13 | malreth | fuck that... i love my cat |
| 17:51.30 | Seerah | what is that from? |
| 17:51.42 | amro | [18:44] <cog|work> http://blog.blowfish.com/culture/how-sexism-hurts-men-undateable/1264 |
| 17:51.42 | cog|work | 10:44 < cog|work> http://blog.blowfish.com/culture/how-sexism-hurts-men-undateable/1264 |
| 17:51.42 | malreth | oh... actually i found him on the street... the book says that's ok |
| 17:51.53 | Seerah | women love kitties, and they like to see that a man can take care of something (and care for something) |
| 17:52.04 | nicoli_s | my thoughts exactly seerah |
| 17:52.14 | cog|work | zomg amro ur clock is off by 8 hourz!!!11one |
| 17:52.15 | Cairenn | Seerah speaks truth |
| 17:52.44 | amro | cog|work: it's this daylight savings crap, confuses the hell out of me. |
| 17:52.49 | Seerah | zomg, cog|work! you're clock is off by 2! |
| 17:52.52 | cog|work | >< |
| 17:53.14 | Seerah | which still makes amro's off by 4 :p |
| 17:53.15 | Fisker | our server doesn't work cog|work |
| 17:53.16 | cog|work | time zones need to die. |
| 17:53.28 | Fisker | got some kind of WOW-Related stimuli while i wait for the servers to work? |
| 17:53.29 | Fisker | HINT |
| 17:53.55 | cog|work | Fisker: i'm sure there's some wow fan art that would...stimulate you |
| 17:54.03 | Fisker | no |
| 17:54.05 | Fisker | noooooo |
| 17:54.23 | Fisker | i was thinking somewhere in the area of a BETA KEY |
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| 17:55.12 | amro | I'm sure there's stimulating wow beta key fan art as well |
| 17:55.43 | cog|work | Fisker: http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs41/f/2009/013/1/c/WOW_fanart__Draenei_DK_by_dwinbotp.jpg |
| 17:55.45 | Maldivia | Fisker: KFKH7R-GYNM-RBXWTP <-- there you go, 60% of a key |
| 17:55.46 | cog|work | you'd hit that |
| 17:56.11 | mikma | HAHAHA, go maldivia |
| 17:56.16 | cog|work | Maldivia: oooooh burn... |
| 17:56.50 | mikma | i wonder do i need an active wow account if i want to get the beta invite before fisker does |
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| 17:59.28 | DWSR | http://questionablecontent.net/ |
| 17:59.30 | DWSR | FANtastic. |
| 18:00.10 | Cairenn | lol |
| 18:00.46 | NightHawkTheSane | DWSR: i like the part where Jeph notes that he got people actually 'applying'. fans scare me a little :P |
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| 18:01.23 | DWSR | NHTS: I thought the punchline was fantastic. The subtle second punchline was pretty priceless too. |
| 18:01.59 | NightHawkTheSane | DWSR: yeah, it was a very well written strip |
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| 18:03.03 | DWSR | The thing I like about his more recent work is that you don't always have to know all the characters and their backstories to get the jokes.\ |
| 18:03.20 | DWSR | His earlier stuff was all a bunch of indie insider jokes and jokes involving backstories. |
| 18:03.53 | DWSR | Anyone know where I can pick up a 32GB microSDHC card? |
| 18:04.03 | NightHawkTheSane | amazon and/or newegg? |
| 18:04.27 | Fisker | sandisk |
| 18:04.46 | malreth | DWSR: don't take NightHawkTheSane's advice. listen to me instead. Try going to amazon and/or newegg. |
| 18:04.55 | DWSR | failreth. |
| 18:05.18 | DWSR | I'm hoping they're like ~$50. |
| 18:05.21 | malreth | i'll never steer you wrong |
| 18:05.23 | Fisker | they're not |
| 18:05.29 | Fisker | well idk by US |
| 18:05.36 | Fisker | but i'd figure them to be in the 100->150 rang |
| 18:05.38 | Fisker | range |
| 18:05.59 | DWSR | I'm Canadian. |
| 18:06.08 | Fisker | only US uses dollars |
| 18:06.09 | Fisker | jerk |
| 18:06.09 | DWSR | Anyway, newegg.ca has no 32GB microSD cards. |
| 18:06.19 | DWSR | Fisker: No, Canada and Australia use dollars. |
| 18:06.26 | Fisker | maybe they hate canadians DWSR |
| 18:06.29 | DWSR | asswipe. |
| 18:06.34 | DWSR | most likely. |
| 18:06.42 | Fisker | if you couldn't see that i was trolling then i feel bad for you |
| 18:06.51 | DWSR | No, I could. |
| 18:06.59 | DWSR | I'm in the mood for a flamewar. |
| 18:07.04 | DWSR | I've had 4 hours of sleep. |
| 18:07.25 | Cairenn | DWSR: flamewar is that way ===> |
| 18:07.40 | DWSR | No, that way is Azeroth. |
| 18:07.54 | malreth | DWSR: ZOMG REALID |
| 18:07.55 | Cairenn | points at some other random channel that isn't this one |
| 18:08.01 | DWSR | lol |
| 18:08.04 | DWSR | zomg. |
| 18:08.08 | NightHawkTheSane | DWSR: http://amzn.to/bp7kgq |
| 18:08.10 | DWSR | Why the fuck are the 32GB cards $200? |
| 18:08.29 | malreth | DWSR: they're made with the flesh of orphans |
| 18:08.31 | Maldivia | because you want one |
| 18:08.33 | nevcairiel | because its a high density, and they like to milk your moneyz |
| 18:08.38 | Fisker | http://www.google.dk/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=site:.ca+SDSDQ-032G-C11M |
| 18:08.41 | Fisker | there you go DWSR |
| 18:08.45 | DWSR | nevcairiel: The 16GB are like $60. |
| 18:08.49 | NightHawkTheSane | because 32gb is close to the top end of current tech cards |
| 18:08.52 | NightHawkTheSane | so it's absurdly expensive |
| 18:09.03 | DWSR | bah. |
| 18:09.08 | amro | DWSR: when has price ever increased linearly? |
| 18:09.08 | Fisker | s/close// |
| 18:09.09 | NightHawkTheSane | (if not the current max of sd cards, im not sure) |
| 18:09.13 | sylvanaar_atwork | bleeding edge is always so much more than one back |
| 18:09.15 | Kalroth | Cairenn: What about passive-aggressive arguments that aren't really flaming but not in good intent either?! |
| 18:09.15 | Fisker | i'd keep to 60 gig as well |
| 18:09.16 | DWSR | NHTS: It is the max. |
| 18:09.26 | Fisker | 16GB* |
| 18:09.26 | nevcairiel | I dont think i've seen a higher then 32 for sdhc |
| 18:09.31 | NightHawkTheSane | DWSR: yeah, i couldn't remember if there was higher sizes yet or not. |
| 18:09.31 | Fisker | there isn't nevcairiel |
| 18:09.34 | Cairenn | Kalroth: I'll passive-aggressive you! :p |
| 18:09.34 | DWSR | Not yet. |
| 18:09.36 | malreth | DWSR: what are you planning to use this card for? photography? |
| 18:09.40 | Fisker | it was just released like a few months ago |
| 18:09.42 | DWSR | Cairenn: Agressively or passively? |
| 18:09.47 | DWSR | malreth: My phone. |
| 18:09.48 | Kalroth | uses Fisker as a shield |
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| 18:10.03 | Fisker | another shitty thing about the 32GB MicroSDHC's are that they're only Class 2 |
| 18:10.19 | DWSR | malreth: Want to shove more music on my phone. |
| 18:10.30 | Fisker | you have more than 16GB? |
| 18:10.32 | DWSR | Doubling the amount of memory available is a good way to do that. |
| 18:10.38 | Fisker | Or are you storing them in .flac? |
| 18:10.46 | DWSR | a little from a, a little from b. |
| 18:10.50 | malreth | yeah... then you're probably gonna have to pay |
| 18:10.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Fisker: ... 16gb isn't that much music >.> |
| 18:10.54 | DWSR | ^ |
| 18:11.04 | DWSR | I have close to 1TB. |
| 18:11.19 | NightHawkTheSane | i've got ~100gb, but it's all mp3s |
| 18:11.21 | nevcairiel | 16gb is enough for like a week of listening |
| 18:11.33 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 18:11.40 | Fisker | It's like 160 albums or so |
| 18:11.53 | DWSR | I have 17292 songs in my library at the moment. |
| 18:11.54 | Fisker | if not more |
| 18:11.55 | DWSR | Lots of FLAC, though. |
| 18:12.09 | Fisker | not sure a 32GB card will help either then |
| 18:12.10 | Wobin | http://gamingbolt.com/2010/07/09/team-fortress-2-needs-a-dance-command/ |
| 18:12.18 | Wobin | I love the dirty dancing one |
| 18:12.20 | DWSR | Totalling 13wks 2d 19h. |
| 18:12.24 | DWSR | Wobin: Yeah. |
| 18:12.25 | Wobin | Cairenn: ^ |
| 18:12.49 | foxlit | grr, grid. |
| 18:12.55 | foxlit | using local UnitName is no fair |
| 18:13.01 | NightHawkTheSane | DWSR: yeah, to be honest, i'd just either stick with a 16gb card and decide which ~14ishgb of music you want at any given time |
| 18:13.12 | NightHawkTheSane | or buy a dedicated mp3 player that has enough space |
| 18:13.19 | DWSR | NHTS: "enough space"? |
| 18:13.23 | Fisker | brb 2 week time travel btw |
| 18:13.38 | nevcairiel | arent there hdd players that can take a default 2.5 drive? :d |
| 18:13.40 | NightHawkTheSane | there are 160gb classic ipods, i'm sure there's other solutions too. |
| 18:14.06 | DWSR | ipod fail. |
| 18:14.18 | DWSR | Doesn't support FLAC |
| 18:14.29 | NightHawkTheSane | "i'm sure there's other solutions too" |
| 18:14.46 | DWSR | "enough space"? |
| 18:14.48 | DWSR | For like a TB? |
| 18:14.56 | nicoli_s | damn beta keeps kicking me out :( |
| 18:15.08 | nevcairiel | nicoli_s: gimme your account, i wont mind |
| 18:15.18 | NightHawkTheSane | you're not going to get a tb, no, but you could probably get more than 32gb |
| 18:15.32 | nevcairiel | flac is not worth having on some mobile player anyway |
| 18:15.36 | NightHawkTheSane | or, you could be less picky and encode your flac into a sane format. |
| 18:15.58 | DWSR | nevcairiel: No, but it's worth it to have the player support it so I don't spend literally days transcoding to get the shit onto the player. |
| 18:16.16 | DWSR | NHTS: I use FLAC because I do DAW work. Having lossless sources makes final mixes sound a lot better. |
| 18:16.22 | nevcairiel | well then have fun with 16gb cards :p |
| 18:16.42 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ |
| 18:16.53 | DWSR | I almost feel like I should have 2 libraries. |
| 18:16.57 | DWSR | 1 FLAC, 1 MP3. |
| 18:17.01 | NightHawkTheSane | DWSR: i'm sure it does, and that's fine. but for day-to-day listening to music, flac is generally a waste |
| 18:17.01 | DWSR | But then my mind just asplodes. |
| 18:17.07 | DWSR | NHTS: Totally. |
| 18:17.14 | nevcairiel | in other news, i just put scummvm on my phone, and got some old games \o/ |
| 18:17.35 | malreth | DWSR: or have whatever sync app re-encode your music on the fly as it's copied to the memory card |
| 18:18.05 | DWSR | malreth: It's literally days to transcode sometimes. |
| 18:18.21 | malreth | yeah... but you just have to do it once |
| 18:18.33 | NightHawkTheSane | how is it taking days, anyway? |
| 18:18.35 | malreth | after that, it only has to re-encode new music |
| 18:18.50 | NightHawkTheSane | when i've transcoded flacs into v0 mp3s it doesn't take that long for an album. |
| 18:19.00 | Cairenn | Wobin: ROFL |
| 18:19.07 | NightHawkTheSane | could probably transcode 16gb in a few hours easily, i'd imagine.. |
| 18:20.05 | DWSR | brb random. |
| 18:20.07 | DWSR | I'll explain, though |
| 18:20.08 | nevcairiel | if even that long, reading flac should be fast, and writing mp3 is rather fast too |
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| 18:22.29 | Dagmar | 16gb of flac is going to take a long time to encode as mp3. |
| 18:23.20 | malreth | no it won't.. that's what.. like 40 music files? |
| 18:23.26 | amro | haha |
| 18:23.28 | Dagmar | 'cuz it's not just "16". It's 16 gigabytes, or 24 CDs-worth |
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| 18:26.21 | DWSR | also, I'm transcoding to get 16GB of MP3s. |
| 18:26.22 | DWSR | Not FLAC. |
| 18:26.27 | DWSR | So I'm starting with a lot more FLAC. |
| 18:26.30 | NightHawkTheSane | true |
| 18:26.36 | NightHawkTheSane | but i'm still not sure that's "days" |
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| 18:28.56 | mikma | wobin: awesome |
| 18:29.07 | Dagmar | I'd say _a_ day isn't out of the question |
| 18:29.15 | Dagmar | Sure as hell isn't going to happen inside an hour |
| 18:29.46 | nevcairiel | i should run a benchmark of that |
| 18:29.51 | NightHawkTheSane | no, probably not |
| 18:29.55 | nicoli_s | man i like the worgen starting area |
| 18:30.02 | nevcairiel | even if the encoder isnt threaded itself, can run 8 of it at the same time! |
| 18:30.06 | nicoli_s | hopefully the other starting areas will get overhauls to make them as cool |
| 18:31.07 | Dagmar | Freaking splitter hairballs |
| 18:31.51 | Dagmar | Maybe after Cata we'll get rid of the worgen and the goblins and they can hook up with the Pandaren and be a third faction |
| 18:32.42 | malreth | pandaren are a myth... they don't exist |
| 18:33.01 | Dagmar | Maybe we can just drop all the worgen down a deep hole somewhere |
| 18:33.14 | Cralor` | I wish that April Fools was true... order chinese in-game |
| 18:33.37 | Dagmar | If they allowed networked HTTP it would happen |
| 18:33.44 | Cralor` | yeah |
| 18:33.58 | nevcairiel | could happen now too |
| 18:34.04 | nevcairiel | just have an account sitting on the realm |
| 18:34.26 | Cralor` | lol |
| 18:34.40 | Dagmar | You could put up a cooldown timer for the pizza-man spawn, automatically |
| 18:35.00 | Cralor` | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=197083&postcount=25 good or bad... |
| 18:35.07 | Lopeppeppy | pandaran delivery isn't real? *sniff sniff* |
| 18:35.25 | Dagmar | Cralor: Probably bad. Run for your life. |
| 18:35.49 | Cralor` | if you got a job with them. have them pay for an account. take orders through the account, like nevairiel said |
| 18:35.54 | malreth | Lopeppeppy: the food isn't all that great... too starchy |
| 18:36.13 | nevcairiel | could even offer a real id account |
| 18:36.27 | nevcairiel | so they can message you from any realm |
| 18:36.31 | Cralor` | yeah |
| 18:36.44 | Dagmar | OH MY GOD THEY'LL KNOW YOUR REAL NAME |
| 18:36.52 | malreth | i stress all weekend to get that damn lab set up for this summer camp class and only 5 out of 10 students show up for it today |
| 18:36.57 | nevcairiel | you usually tell that to the pizza man anyway! |
| 18:37.04 | Lopeppeppy | I can't eat it right now anyway, malreth. but I could eat the pandaren!! |
| 18:37.10 | nevcairiel | he has to know what bell to ring :d |
| 18:37.19 | Lopeppeppy | P.S. Murdering students gets you fired. Just sayin' |
| 18:37.23 | Dagmar | nevcariel: Yeah, pretty much. Hell, I'm on a first-name basis with mine |
| 18:37.27 | malreth | Lopeppeppy: no you couldn't. because pandaren don't exist |
| 18:37.40 | Lopeppeppy | They won't after I eat 'em, that's for sure. |
| 18:37.58 | DWSR | Back from random. |
| 18:38.10 | DWSR | Anyway, yeah, day*s* is a bit of a stretch |
| 18:38.13 | DWSR | Roughly 20 hours. |
| 18:38.15 | DWSR | So /a/ day. |
| 18:38.32 | DWSR | And I only have a 1.8Ghz dual core. |
| 18:39.19 | Lunessa | malreth: I hate that. I especially hate when someone demands that I come in pre-8am on my day off to do something for them... and it turns out it could have waited from the next regular business day expect they were throwing their weight around. |
| 18:39.43 | Dagmar | charge extra for priority gigs |
| 18:42.00 | Lopeppeppy | "extra duties as assigned" on the salary line |
| 18:42.51 | malreth | in this case, i was contracted specifically for this set up... so it needed to happen... i'm just annoyed that the lab is only being half used... |
| 18:43.48 | mikma | cralor`: beta key madness! |
| 18:44.19 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: The last time it happened, I looked at the person in question and said, "Are you kidding me? You don't need this for another week, but you had me come in on my day off?" |
| 18:44.43 | Lunessa | I don't get asked to come in on my day off for trivial crap anymore. |
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| 18:49.10 | Lunessa | Has anyone else been making use of Chrome's bookmark syncing service? |
| 18:49.18 | cog|work | somewhat |
| 18:49.25 | durcyn | extensively |
| 18:49.30 | durcyn | it... syncs. |
| 18:49.32 | cog|work | I don't make heavy use of bookmarks to begin with |
| 18:49.38 | cog|work | (google does that for me) |
| 18:50.18 | durcyn | are you having a specific problem with it, or? |
| 18:50.35 | Lunessa | I have a terrible memory for finding stuff - so I book mark lots of reference material and also lots of stuff I want to find quickly. I just tried it out this weekend, and I'm amazed at how handy it is. |
| 18:51.08 | nevcairiel | i dont use many different places |
| 18:51.21 | nevcairiel | so the sync i use is just a glorified backup |
| 18:51.33 | mikma | sooooo. we decided its hot and we finally need to install the cealingfan into bedroom |
| 18:51.46 | mikma | yay remotecontrolled ceilingfan yey! |
| 18:51.54 | Lunessa | I don't sync all my machines, but... yeah, delicious. |
| 18:51.54 | Lopeppeppy | isn't chrome-compliant. |
| 18:52.07 | Lopeppeppy | funny, Delicious is what I use, when I use anything. |
| 18:52.13 | nevcairiel | i have always wondered if ceiling fans really help .. i mean, rather get an AC :P |
| 18:52.37 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: I like Chrome because it's fast. But it isn't my default browser everywhere. |
| 18:52.52 | mikma | nevcairiel: if you got the bucks go with the ac. this fan was free (weddinggift) and wasnt in use after i reinnovated the livingroom |
| 18:53.09 | nevcairiel | i use firefox at work, because firebug still seems superior to chromes thing |
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| 18:53.32 | Lopeppeppy | I should install Chrome just so I can see our sites in it. *sigh* |
| 18:53.41 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2410/ |
| 18:53.43 | mikma | i would use chrome if it wouldnt crash on me so often |
| 18:53.48 | Mirrormn | I'm not a big fan of chrome's ui |
| 18:53.55 | nevcairiel | I love the chrome ui |
| 18:54.02 | nevcairiel | especially their all-in-one bar design |
| 18:54.04 | durcyn | Lopeppeppy: eh, it's webkit. safari will show you any quirks just as well. |
| 18:54.12 | Mirrormn | I hate their all in one bar design |
| 18:54.13 | Mirrormn | blah |
| 18:54.20 | Lopeppeppy | Purty, Cairenn! Do not like the password, but bookmarks are okay. |
| 18:54.28 | mikma | i love the feature where you can drag tabs next to a browser and it will dock a new window there |
| 18:54.34 | nevcairiel | who needs a special input box for search engines |
| 18:54.44 | Lopeppeppy | durcyn, we find that there are safari differences from Mac to PC. Having one more browser, never hurts. |
| 18:54.44 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: you don't need to use the password part |
| 18:54.46 | Cairenn | I don't |
| 18:54.47 | nevcairiel | mikma: firefox does that too |
| 18:54.55 | mikma | nevcairiel: lol lies |
| 18:55.08 | nevcairiel | you can drag a tab out and it creates a new window |
| 18:55.10 | nevcairiel | surely does |
| 18:55.21 | Mirrormn | if anything, I wish I could have more than one search box |
| 18:55.23 | mikma | but you missed the docking i said |
| 18:55.51 | nevcairiel | I'm a fullscreen person, i wouldnt know |
| 18:55.57 | Mirrormn | my favorite firefox addon is Googlepedia |
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| 18:56.15 | Mirrormn | which looks inserts a wikipedia entry into every google search you do |
| 18:56.28 | mikma | nevcairiel: gogole the chrome new window docking, its neat |
| 18:56.31 | durcyn | Lopeppeppy: in my experience that's the fault of OS-specific controls, usually buttons and input fields. why that's left up to the user-agent, i will never know. |
| 18:57.44 | cralor | is there a free stereo mixer out there? |
| 18:58.41 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, but it never helps to have my own unmodified Chrome version XXXX so I can tell them it runs fine on default, and it's their own problem, not mine. :) |
| 18:58.45 | cog|work | "Thought for the day: it just occurred to me how incredibly ironic it is that, when the Pledge of Allegiance was changed in 1954, they actually put "under God" in between the words one nation and indivisible." |
| 18:59.26 | Mirrormn | I can't decide if that's actually ironic or not |
| 18:59.44 | mikma | god, lol lol lol |
| 19:00.14 | cog|work | cralor: audacity? |
| 19:00.24 | Mirrormn | I guess it's ironic until you think about it |
| 19:00.30 | Mirrormn | yes, audacity |
| 19:00.39 | cralor | cog|work: will that let me use my speakers as an input device? |
| 19:00.49 | Mirrormn | ... |
| 19:00.51 | cog|work | that depends entirely on your sound card and drivers |
| 19:01.13 | cog|work | creative has a "what you hear" virtual input on some of their models |
| 19:01.14 | cralor | sorry. ._. that's what I meant. a VAC free alternative |
| 19:01.19 | Mirrormn | you mean like the actualy speakers... to input sound to your computer? |
| 19:01.24 | Mirrormn | ah |
| 19:01.29 | durcyn | no, he wants to capture the stream. |
| 19:01.29 | Mirrormn | VAC is amazing |
| 19:01.31 | cralor | for example...stream a video with game music |
| 19:01.41 | Mirrormn | yes yes |
| 19:01.46 | mikma | VAG in a clowncar |
| 19:01.56 | Mirrormn | well there's nothing I know of that's free that can do what VAC does |
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| 19:02.27 | mikma | i will be surprised if cairenn misses that |
| 19:02.46 | Cairenn | misses what? |
| 19:02.52 | Kalroth | lol |
| 19:02.57 | Cairenn | :p |
| 19:02.59 | cog|work | SURPRISE |
| 19:03.30 | Mirrormn | I guess I better just pull LK and see what happens! |
| 19:05.25 | mikma | cairenn: 22:01 <mikma> VAG in a clowncar |
| 19:05.36 | Cairenn | ooookay |
| 19:06.00 | malreth | it's funny because it's a reference to... oh nevermind |
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| 19:06.45 | mikma | VAG is Volkswagen Audi Group xD |
| 19:07.04 | cog|work | mikma: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_0YTZJpJ8Jp8/SyMENsyOn2I/AAAAAAAAF00/aGseFbVy0VA/s400/ClownCar.jpg |
| 19:07.35 | mikma | oleeeee! |
| 19:08.11 | malreth | cog|work: damn quiverfulls |
| 19:08.24 | cog|work | funny thing that was the first image that came up for the search "vegetables in a clown car" |
| 19:08.28 | cog|work | (without quotes) |
| 19:11.02 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 19:58.01 | Lunessa | cog|work: Your search history would be spotted with moments of absolute hilarity. |
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| 19:59.56 | DWSR | NHTS |
| 20:00.38 | DWSR | Does he even have that on highlight? |
| 20:02.09 | durcyn | NightHawkTheSane: yo, do you have NHTS on highlight |
| 20:02.19 | NightHawkTheSane | I do. |
| 20:02.24 | durcyn | speaking of abbreviations, what is DWSR short for |
| 20:02.30 | NightHawkTheSane | I also happen to be at work currently, so I can't always check this window ;) |
| 20:02.31 | DWSR | Doing Women in Surprising Rooms. |
| 20:02.31 | durcyn | Dual Wielding Stiff Rods? |
| 20:02.35 | DWSR | NHTS: Ah. |
| 20:02.36 | durcyn | oh |
| 20:02.44 | durcyn | i was going somewhere else entirely. |
| 20:02.49 | DWSR | uhuh. |
| 20:03.45 | amro | what's a surprising room? |
| 20:03.54 | DWSR | NHTS: Do you know of a tool that would help me create a "cache" of my transcoded music? I don't want to have 2 full libraries, but I would like to be able to put mp3s on my phone. |
| 20:03.55 | amro | bucket on the door? jack in the box? |
| 20:04.02 | DWSR | amro: Church. |
| 20:04.20 | DWSR | /On/ a rollercoaster. |
| 20:04.27 | amro | neither of those are rooms |
| 20:04.32 | NightHawkTheSane | DWSR: hmm... not off the top of my head. |
| 20:04.41 | DWSR | meh. |
| 20:04.44 | DWSR | Creative interpretation. |
| 20:04.52 | malreth | DWSR: i recommend iTunes. |
| 20:04.55 | malreth | ducks and runs |
| 20:04.55 | DWSR | malreth: No. |
| 20:05.01 | amro | maybe change Rooms to Real-estate |
| 20:05.09 | DWSR | heh |
| 20:05.16 | NightHawkTheSane | what's the problem with just having two libraries? (aside from the potential issues of keeping both maintained) |
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| 20:05.30 | DWSR | The potential issues of keeping both maintained? |
| 20:05.35 | DWSR | And also, size issues. |
| 20:05.45 | malreth | although, iTunes actually does have an option that will re-encode all high bitrate or lossless files to 128 kbit AAC |
| 20:05.53 | malreth | when syncing to an idevice |
| 20:06.06 | DWSR | malreth: So do most other media players. I want to have a cache of all of said music. |
| 20:06.11 | DWSR | So that I only transcode it once. |
| 20:06.21 | NightHawkTheSane | you could write your own tool? |
| 20:06.28 | DWSR | Hm. |
| 20:06.33 | malreth | DWSR: there is a cache... it's on the iDevice. :) |
| 20:06.36 | DWSR | Well, I use Foobar, I could do a plugin. |
| 20:06.37 | NightHawkTheSane | actually |
| 20:07.32 | NightHawkTheSane | it couldn't be that hard to write a tool, assuming the actual syncing to the device was just a simple file system operation, or something with a good API |
| 20:08.25 | DWSR | Just an FS operation. |
| 20:08.31 | DWSR | A->B |
| 20:08.37 | NightHawkTheSane | and i assume you have an android phone, yeah? so yea.. its just a simple copy |
| 20:09.08 | DWSR | Yes, I do. |
| 20:09.11 | DWSR | None of this iPhone shit. |
| 20:09.13 | Mikk | write FS driver that intercepts the call and copies to somewhere else also! |
| 20:09.17 | Mikk | ez! |
| 20:09.18 | Mikk | :P |
| 20:09.25 | Mikk | (or not ;)) |
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| 20:09.34 | NightHawkTheSane | DWSR: well, your comment about an sd card meant not an iphone, but it could have been windows mobile, or some other shitty os :P |
| 20:09.45 | DWSR | That's true, I suppose. |
| 20:09.56 | DWSR | But most of those just mount the card as a removable drive, don't they? |
| 20:10.01 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, true |
| 20:10.08 | NightHawkTheSane | even windows mobile just reads off the sdcard. |
| 20:10.11 | DWSR | Yeah. |
| 20:10.15 | DWSR | Like most sane things. |
| 20:10.21 | DWSR | Except the farking iPhone. |
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| 20:10.33 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, the only difference with the iphone is that the "card" isn't removable |
| 20:10.53 | malreth | and the music library layout is opaque |
| 20:11.04 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, that's a non-issue to me. |
| 20:11.06 | malreth | hasn't stopped third parties from figuring it out |
| 20:11.32 | NightHawkTheSane | i typically only deal with music at the tag level, and let other tools handle file system layout based on that |
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| 20:11.46 | NightHawkTheSane | the acutal files could be random strings of gibberish for all i care :P |
| 20:12.49 | Fisker | so cog|work |
| 20:13.35 | DWSR | The default player for Android doesn't support disc numbers. |
| 20:13.43 | NightHawkTheSane | it doesn't? |
| 20:13.45 | DWSR | So I always use sane filenames. |
| 20:13.47 | DWSR | No. |
| 20:13.57 | NightHawkTheSane | thats kinda obnoxious. |
| 20:14.00 | DWSR | Very. |
| 20:14.02 | DWSR | Very. |
| 20:14.06 | DWSR | Obnoxious. |
| 20:14.12 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm sure it'll get it eventually, though |
| 20:14.19 | DWSR | Wlel, actually, I lie somewhat. |
| 20:14.36 | DWSR | Sony Ericsson's sorry excuse for a media player (which they overwrote the default player with) doesn't support it. |
| 20:14.48 | DWSR | So I use Meridian, which just uses directories and filenames. |
| 20:14.52 | DWSR | Simple. Easy. |
| 20:15.11 | Fisker | Kirkburn |
| 20:15.14 | Fisker | i'm blackmailing you |
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| 20:16.29 | malreth | can't you just write a script that does a depth first traversal of your music library and builds a re-encoded library parallel to that directory structure? then just re-run the script on files as they are modified by the filesystem? |
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| 20:16.53 | DWSR | malreth: Why bother? |
| 20:17.12 | DWSR | malreth: Why not just cache music when I transcode it? |
| 20:17.29 | durcyn | why even transcode, get a real player/format :( |
| 20:17.29 | NightHawkTheSane | really, the end result of both is the same. |
| 20:17.29 | DWSR | Then use the cached transcodes whenever I want to copy music to my device. |
| 20:17.42 | NightHawkTheSane | you end up with a managed duplicate transocded library |
| 20:17.42 | DWSR | durcyn: I'm using FLAC and an Android phone.\ |
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| 20:18.19 | malreth | *shrug* well then if you aren't gonna write it, you'll just have to wait for someone else to do it for you |
| 20:18.54 | NightHawkTheSane | malreth: thats kinda what i said :P |
| 20:19.02 | durcyn | at the risk of sounding overly hostile, not another FLAC nerd, ugh. |
| 20:19.03 | NightHawkTheSane | (that he could write one) |
| 20:19.42 | DWSR | durcyn: It's mostly because I do DAW work. |
| 20:19.45 | malreth | NightHawkTheSane: yeah... i thought that's the whole benefit of an open system like Android |
| 20:19.46 | DWSR | Lossless sources = better quality. |
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| 20:20.02 | DWSR | malreth: I'd write it for my computer, not for Android. |
| 20:20.09 | DWSR | I'm not updating my collection OTA |
| 20:20.20 | NightHawkTheSane | malreth: indeed. |
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| 20:22.14 | durcyn | anyway, i don't see the problem. mp3="/altenate/path/to/`basename $1 flac`mp3"; [ -e "${mp3}" ] && cp "${mp3}" /device/mount/point |
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| 20:40.07 | malreth | there are porn sites with fewer in-your-face ads than tomshardware.com |
| 20:41.13 | amro | the layout is horrible |
| 20:43.27 | malreth | i have a great idea! let's put only 400 words per page and have an HP toner ad take over the screen on EVERY GOD DAMNED PAGE |
| 20:50.23 | Lunessa | pages where the content is overwhelmed by the ads get put in to ABP. |
| 20:50.43 | alestane | Abhorrently Bad Pages? |
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| 20:51.11 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ || 3.3.x ToC: 30300 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || 3.3.5 Patch Notes are up: http://cot.ag/aCj0Wy || Are you going to BlizzCon (Oct 22 & 23)? http://tinyurl.com/22kjfxu || Cataclysm Closed Beta Test Begins http://cot.ag/9v2zkv || Cata beta download category & forum now open http://cot.ag/ci9MHP || WoWI Forum Reorg: http://cot.ag/9V9Gmi |
| 20:51.28 | Lunessa | AdBlock Plus . |
| 20:51.36 | Kraps | why is the newbie making timelines? http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/25968569181/when-is-next-beta-wave-comming/ |
| 20:51.44 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ || 3.3.x ToC: 30300 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || 3.3.5 Patch Notes are up: http://cot.ag/aCj0Wy || Are you going to BlizzCon (Oct 22 & 23)? http://tinyurl.com/22kjfxu || Cataclysm Closed Beta Test Begins http://cot.ag/9v2zkv || Cata beta download category & forum now open http://cot.ag/ci9MHP || CC Beta Keys for Authors! http://cot.ag/ |
| 20:51.55 | malreth | it manages to confuddle Safari's Reader mode... only one page ever appears |
| 20:52.38 | malreth | that last link doesn't seem to work, Cairenn |
| 20:52.51 | Kraps | ^ |
| 20:53.01 | Cairenn | gah, cut off, hang on |
| 20:53.09 | Cairenn | or, just hit up front page of WoWI :p |
| 20:54.02 | Kraps | Cairenn: the form of the forums didnt change right? |
| 20:55.14 | Cairenn | Kraps: huh? |
| 20:55.15 | Lunessa | WotLK Beta Author Guilds ? |
| 20:55.21 | Cairenn | shit |
| 20:55.22 | Cairenn | heh |
| 20:55.41 | malreth | contemplates updating Mazzlegasm Interruptus for 3.3.x |
| 20:55.58 | Kraps | Cairenn: the forum reorg didnt change the way the look right? |
| 20:56.09 | NightHawkTheSane | does this mean i have to actually update the toc for my mods that haven't had to change in months? :P |
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| 20:56.22 | Cairenn | Kraps: no |
| 20:56.56 | Lunessa | still needs an invite to <Secure Hookers> |
| 20:57.04 | Kraps | just checking to see that i'm not too crazy :) |
| 20:57.17 | NightHawkTheSane | probably ought to update his mods anyway, just to be complete... *shrugs* |
| 20:57.26 | cog|work | Lunessa: lern2irc on weekends |
| 20:57.48 | Lunessa | I was in on Saturday. :P |
| 20:57.52 | nevcairiel | yay for Cairenn :D |
| 20:58.12 | nevcairiel | tracking id 9 .. not many people noticed yet, hah |
| 20:58.18 | Kraps | "(Plugins/Patches, Compilations & "Hello world" or its equivalent do not count)." :( i can do a mean "hello world" in VB |
| 20:58.35 | Shadowed | You can try, I'll enjoy crushing your dreams however! |
| 20:58.41 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: the post is like 10m old ;) |
| 20:58.57 | nevcairiel | NightHawkTheSane: i would've expected more people rushing to the site! |
| 20:59.43 | NightHawkTheSane | well, dont know who else would know to check, its around the middle/endish of the workday for most people in the US, and i dont know how many people compulsively check wowi news.. *shrug* |
| 20:59.46 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ || 3.3.x ToC: 30300 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || 3.3.5 Patch Notes are up: http://cot.ag/aCj0Wy || Are you going to BlizzCon (Oct 22 & 23)? http://tinyurl.com/22kjfxu || Cataclysm Closed Beta Test Begins http://cot.ag/9v2zkv || Cataclysm Beta Keys for Authors! http://cot.ag/aG4uy6 |
| 20:59.46 | nevcairiel | anyhow, can't wait for the keys going out, i know it'll still be a short while :) |
| 20:59.50 | Cairenn | there we go |
| 20:59.57 | NightHawkTheSane | indeed |
| 21:00.09 | cralor | I was curious to see if it was the same page as last xpac, so I got ID #1 :) |
| 21:00.12 | nevcairiel | its 11pm in europe, and its damn hot, so everyone is still awake i figure :p |
| 21:00.28 | NightHawkTheSane | pff. no one cares about europeans ;) |
| 21:01.12 | Lunessa | I should totally reply "First!" |
| 21:02.25 | Shadowed | there you go Lunessa |
| 21:03.03 | Lunessa | You cruel, cruel bastard. |
| 21:03.08 | Shadowed | :D |
| 21:03.40 | Lunessa | Also, if case you missed it, my SUF crash was actually due to a bad DDR3 module. |
| 21:03.41 | NightHawkTheSane | WOO! fedex delivered my package! |
| 21:03.48 | NightHawkTheSane | ... it's going to be a long 3 hours >.> |
| 21:04.06 | nevcairiel | SUF is breaking memory now? |
| 21:04.11 | nevcairiel | bad Shadowed, bad |
| 21:04.16 | Shadowed | yea I saw that |
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| 21:05.21 | Lunessa | No, I built a new computer over the July 4th weekend; sadly, I had to return the RAM twice before getting working modules. |
| 21:05.43 | Shadowed | nice |
| 21:05.44 | Lunessa | The second batch looked out, until strange crashes started happening in previously stable code. |
| 21:05.54 | Lunessa | looked ok. |
| 21:06.29 | Kraps | what is it with RAM |
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| 21:10.14 | NeoTron | http://www.clichequest.com/index.php?pos=384 |
| 21:11.44 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 21:12.08 | Lunessa | Bad batches slip past QA check all the time. Luckily, RAM is cheap these days. |
| 21:12.23 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 21:12.28 | nevcairiel | but you also just simply buy more |
| 21:14.02 | Lunessa | I will - when I have more cash. I spent my discretionary budget+ building the new computer. I'll have to live with 4gigs for now. Oh, and skip buying from Patriot next time. :P |
| 21:14.45 | malreth | how much was your budget, Lunessa? |
| 21:14.55 | nevcairiel | I went for the 8gig back when i upgraded |
| 21:15.06 | Lunessa | malreth: $500 |
| 21:15.24 | Lunessa | nevcairiel: I plan to go for 4 more soonish. |
| 21:15.35 | NeoTron | I have 6 GB at home |
| 21:15.37 | nevcairiel | but i suppose hardware prices can't really be compared between EU and US |
| 21:15.48 | nevcairiel | it seems always kinda cheaper over at your place |
| 21:15.49 | NeoTron | but can easily get 6 GB more (6 slots is nice) |
| 21:15.51 | Lunessa | but going from my old CPU to an i5 was a nice upgrade. :) |
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| 21:16.12 | malreth | what video card did you get? |
| 21:16.17 | nevcairiel | I only have 4 slots, 860 and not 920, etc :p |
| 21:16.28 | Lunessa | I kept my Nvidia GT 240 |
| 21:16.32 | nevcairiel | but 8gig should be enough for a while |
| 21:16.43 | malreth | ah.. |
| 21:17.35 | Lunessa | I got new mobo, ram, cpu, and case. I reused my video card and other devices. |
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| 21:17.59 | nevcairiel | why case? |
| 21:18.00 | alestane | The "Kill Scarlets' quest for baby forsaken now requires to to use Cannibalize on at least one Scarlet corpse...NICE. |
| 21:18.16 | malreth | i got all new everything. i could have reused my old case but I wanted something different |
| 21:19.03 | foxlit | Sigh, this is getting annoying. |
| 21:19.16 | foxlit | DSL dies every few minutes, requiring a modem power cycle :/ |
| 21:19.20 | nevcairiel | All new would be kinda nice, but i'll wait with that maybe until Q3 2011, depending how release cycles on hardware look |
| 21:19.35 | Lunessa | nevcairiel: The old case was poor for airflow and many of the indicator/accessory cabling was in poor shape - and the new case was $19 |
| 21:19.42 | nevcairiel | Ah, ok |
| 21:20.08 | nevcairiel | Maybe when sandybridge mainstream 6 or 8 cores come out, that would be yummy |
| 21:22.44 | Lunessa | nevcairiel: I really didn't want to spend the money this month, but... the i think I bricked the old CPU while trying to clean the cpu cooler. |
| 21:22.55 | nevcairiel | ouch |
| 21:23.28 | Lunessa | The older machine was nearly 6 years old anyway. |
| 21:23.33 | nevcairiel | i had a similar problem, when i installed a new gfx card, somehow my motherboard forgot that it has a NIC on board, and it also didnt like working with any PCI NIC i installed |
| 21:24.00 | nevcairiel | so i upgraded already |
| 21:24.21 | alestane | Ah, they make you use Cannibalize because it gets you your next quest. |
| 21:24.48 | Lunessa | the auto-quest feature RULES |
| 21:24.58 | NightHawkTheSane | alestane: thats neat |
| 21:25.01 | nevcairiel | I can't wait to get in there |
| 21:25.14 | alestane | "While face-first in the Scarlet soldier's corpse you discover a small piece pf paper that reads..." |
| 21:25.31 | nevcairiel | patiently twiddles his thumbs waiting for blizzard mail |
| 21:26.15 | Cairenn | cralor: don't help :p |
| 21:26.23 | Cairenn | sorry, but no, it really doesn't :p |
| 21:26.54 | nevcairiel | technically oUF is just a library, and creating a UF with it is a proper addon |
| 21:26.58 | nevcairiel | but shrug, thats just me |
| 21:27.24 | Cairenn | we haven't excluded that cat, though, so yeah, if he does upload to there, he'll be fine |
| 21:28.04 | Cairenn | You have to admit, though, most compilation creators are NOT deserving of a key, all they've done is zip up their addon folder |
| 21:28.11 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 21:28.14 | Cairenn | no bloody coding involved |
| 21:28.21 | nevcairiel | But if he created a oUF layout, he actually wrote Lua code |
| 21:28.34 | Cairenn | nod |
| 21:28.42 | cralor | Yeah, definitely. Sorry... I'm too nice sometimes :) |
| 21:29.08 | NightHawkTheSane | .. i think that's close to about as mean as i've seen Cairenn ever get. |
| 21:29.20 | NightHawkTheSane | thinks he mixed up a few words in that sentance. |
| 21:29.33 | nevcairiel | you must be truly stunned |
| 21:29.48 | Cairenn | is such a bitch, we all know it! |
| 21:29.59 | durcyn | but she's our bitch? |
| 21:30.09 | durcyn | or we're hers, one of those. |
| 21:30.11 | Cairenn | baby, you can only dream |
| 21:30.17 | durcyn | :| |
| 21:30.21 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 21:31.08 | Kraps | how can you tell which steam games use the cloud? |
| 21:31.15 | NightHawkTheSane | unrelated: flash needs to die in a freaking fire, and firefox needs to support h.264. |
| 21:31.20 | nevcairiel | everything uses the cloud! the cloud is everywhere! |
| 21:31.37 | nevcairiel | people just need to use WebM/VP8 |
| 21:31.40 | cralor | Someone wants one for $10 ^_^ |
| 21:32.30 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: to be honest, the specific format's not the issue, it's just h.264 is what i can get from our CDN, so. |
| 21:32.47 | alestane | puts the collar away for safekeeping. |
| 21:32.52 | nevcairiel | use chrome then :) |
| 21:32.55 | durcyn | Kraps: there used to be a cloud icon on the old list, it should be in the properties somewhere now? |
| 21:33.09 | durcyn | NightHawkTheSane: not gonna happen, and not gonna happen. |
| 21:33.13 | nevcairiel | I can understand mozilla for not wanting to get into the h264 trouble |
| 21:33.17 | durcyn | cross your fingers for VP8 though |
| 21:33.29 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: i have to support multiple browsers :P |
| 21:33.37 | malreth | contemplates on how to take a photo of Cairenn in a corset |
| 21:33.47 | nevcairiel | well then, more VP8, even IE9 supports it |
| 21:33.51 | Kraps | durcyn: ah i see it |
| 21:33.56 | nevcairiel | well, kinda, anyway! |
| 21:34.09 | durcyn | I thought IE9 was H264 only |
| 21:34.25 | durcyn | not like it matters, I still have customers who demand IE6 compatibility |
| 21:34.32 | nevcairiel | They will allow IE9 to play vp8 if the codec is installed on the system |
| 21:34.33 | NightHawkTheSane | ie9 will support webm if the user has the codec installed separately |
| 21:34.36 | Cairenn | alestane, malreth ;) |
| 21:34.52 | durcyn | oh, huh. awfully altruistic of microsoft. |
| 21:35.06 | durcyn | explain to me again why firefox doesn't use system libraries for playback, then? |
| 21:35.13 | alestane | I don't know if I'd kill to see Cairenn in a corset, but I'd definitely inflict flesh wounds. |
| 21:36.07 | nevcairiel | Our corporate environment is *finally* moving from IE6 to IE8 later this year .. or Q1 2011 .. |
| 21:36.07 | nevcairiel | maybe we can stop supporting it then |
| 21:36.07 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: but yeah, right now I get just h.264 from our CDN, and have to support video playback on all browsers. And this flash player is, for some reason, refusing to load/play the file. |
| 21:36.07 | nevcairiel | durcyn: its not only a windows product |
| 21:36.07 | Cairenn | licks alestane |
| 21:36.20 | alestane | purrs. |
| 21:36.25 | nevcairiel | video on all browsers does scream flash, sadly =( |
| 21:36.38 | NightHawkTheSane | which leads to my original statment ;) |
| 21:36.46 | nevcairiel | well, only half of it |
| 21:36.54 | nevcairiel | firefox supporting h264 wouldnt fix IE up |
| 21:37.05 | nevcairiel | unless you can wait for IE9 |
| 21:37.06 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, but at least i could just be angry at ie, wh ich is a near-constant state of affairs |
| 21:37.51 | nicoli_s | for those of you who like FPS games, at our site(curse.com) we have give aways for beta keys for the new medal of honor game |
| 21:38.05 | alestane | "You need something to occupy your mind when you're dead, and I want a pet. Take this leash down to the coast and bring me back a murloc." |
| 21:38.39 | nevcairiel | nicoli_s: can't beat the cata keys going out here, tbh :) |
| 21:39.02 | nicoli_s | huh nevcairiel? |
| 21:39.09 | nicoli_s | people are giving out cata keys? |
| 21:39.26 | nevcairiel | author keys |
| 21:39.30 | Cairenn | points at the channel topic |
| 21:40.35 | nicoli_s | wow, didnt even see that |
| 21:40.41 | nicoli_s | wonder why we havent done that yet :P |
| 21:40.44 | ScytheBlade1 | hmm, I forgot about that |
| 21:41.11 | nevcairiel | nicoli_s: clearly, you have no Cairenn |
| 21:41.11 | ScytheBlade1 | You must be an addon author with one or more files on the site that are current to 3.3.x |
| 21:41.16 | ScytheBlade1 | I also forgot about that |
| 21:41.33 | nicoli_s | nevcairiel:its true, bryan is no cairenn\ |
| 21:41.48 | nicoli_s | bryan aka kaelten |
| 21:41.55 | durcyn | depends, how does Kaelten look in a corset? |
| 21:42.06 | nevcairiel | hahaha |
| 21:42.07 | Torhal | durcyn: Damn you, I was gonna say that |
| 21:42.20 | Kaelten | :P |
| 21:42.22 | durcyn | Torhal: i typed it. works better in irc. |
| 21:42.31 | Torhal | ~lart durcyn |
| 21:42.31 | purl | tries to shut durcyn up |
| 21:42.32 | NightHawkTheSane | I think we'll need photographic evidence to compare the two. |
| 21:42.38 | NightHawkTheSane | let's start with Cairenn. |
| 21:42.43 | Cairenn | loves her corsets - gets to ask people to tie her up and it seems completely innocent ... |
| 21:42.52 | Cairenn | *flutters lashes* |
| 21:43.02 | Kraps | nicoli_s: premium only :( |
| 21:43.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: you can' |
| 21:43.34 | ScytheBlade1 | bah |
| 21:43.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: you can't be innocent no matter how hard you try |
| 21:43.46 | nicoli_s | kraps:really? didnt realize that |
| 21:44.09 | nicoli_s | also, we at curse should be getting keys for authors as well |
| 21:44.33 | Kraps | i wanted to get one, always thought MoH was better than CoD |
| 21:44.41 | NightHawkTheSane | nicoli_s: yeah, i thougth you guys did last year. |
| 21:44.47 | NightHawkTheSane | er, last expansion* |
| 21:44.49 | nevcairiel | i liked the original moh |
| 21:44.54 | nevcairiel | MoH:AA not so much |
| 21:45.00 | NightHawkTheSane | needs to just go back to work and not actually try and form coherent sentances. |
| 21:45.03 | Torhal | nicoli_s: I would prefer a Collector's Edition key. |
| 21:45.05 | Torhal | :D |
| 21:45.45 | Kraps | nevcairiel: i played that and its expansions, loved em |
| 21:45.48 | nevcairiel | anyhow, i better go to sleep before i age |
| 21:46.57 | ScytheBlade1 | nevcairiel: too late |
| 21:47.41 | nevcairiel | its still 13 minutes |
| 21:47.42 | NightHawkTheSane | you're older than you've ever been. |
| 21:47.45 | NightHawkTheSane | and now you're even older. |
| 21:47.55 | NightHawkTheSane | and now you're older still. |
| 21:48.11 | durcyn | is tomorrow your birthday, nevcairiel |
| 21:48.56 | nevcairiel | apparently it is, someone thought it would be funny to use friday the 13th back in the day |
| 21:56.41 | Cairenn | Xinhuan: ping? |
| 21:57.32 | Grum | he's slacking :D |
| 21:58.45 | nevcairiel | he lives in a weird timezone, probably asleep |
| 21:58.54 | Cairenn | point |
| 21:59.04 | Grum | yeah |
| 22:00.13 | alestane | Not bad, undead shadow resistance now reduces your chance to be hit by shadow spells by 2%. |
| 22:00.26 | nevcairiel | dont all resistance thingys d othat now? |
| 22:00.33 | nevcairiel | i read that in soem blue post loooong back |
| 22:03.51 | Maldivia | because you want one |
| 22:03.56 | Maldivia | mt |
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| 22:05.58 | NightHawkTheSane | alestane: all racial resistances do that on live, i think? http://www.wowhead.com/spell=20583 |
| 22:06.14 | alestane | Maybe I missed that then. I play too many humans. |
| 22:06.46 | NightHawkTheSane | i think th ey made that change when they updated a bunch of the racials a while back |
| 22:10.31 | foxlit | alestane: still an annoyingly stupid racial. |
| 22:10.49 | Cairenn | First 50 keys have been assigned. If your tracking number is #000001 - #000050, go get your key and start downloading |
| 22:10.55 | nevcairiel | wtf |
| 22:10.57 | nevcairiel | that was fast |
| 22:11.03 | nevcairiel | and i'm supposed to get sleep now? |
| 22:11.03 | Cairenn | :) |
| 22:11.07 | Cairenn | We're just that good! |
| 22:11.13 | nevcairiel | way to screw me over here |
| 22:11.19 | NightHawkTheSane | holy crap |
| 22:11.27 | Lunessa | You'll be downloading the Beta for 5+ hours. |
| 22:11.29 | Shadowed | don't worry |
| 22:11.34 | NightHawkTheSane | Cairenn: ... i hope you're happy, i'm not going to be getting sleep for the next week. |
| 22:11.35 | Shadowed | yea, it'll take you a bit to download beta |
| 22:11.36 | nevcairiel | Lunessa: nop, i already have it <.< |
| 22:11.37 | NightHawkTheSane | ;) |
| 22:11.56 | Lunessa | patching it on my iMac at home took forever. |
| 22:12.13 | Lunessa | I did that while my Windows 7 box was in pieces. |
| 22:12.13 | nevcairiel | i kept it current to get sneak previews at the ui changes |
| 22:12.15 | nicoli_s | so you all got yer author keys already cairenn? |
| 22:12.49 | Cairenn | nicoli_s: we have a bunch, yes |
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| 22:16.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Cairenn: also, thank you for the work you put in to getting the keys promptly. Don't know how hard you pushed for it, but yay :) |
| 22:16.36 | Cairenn | NightHawkTheSane: you're welcome |
| 22:16.43 | batrick | Cairenn: <3<3<3<3<3 |
| 22:16.54 | Cairenn | You guys know we try to take care of you :) |
| 22:20.15 | Grum | haha lots of happy people :D |
| 22:20.46 | nicoli_s | so i get a key for my war curse profiler addon right cairenn :P |
| 22:20.48 | durcyn | i'd totally buy someone a corset right now. |
| 22:20.53 | NightHawkTheSane | ... between this and the new phone waiting for me at home, I'm seriously not going to get any more work done today >.> |
| 22:21.02 | Cairenn | nicoli_s: no |
| 22:21.55 | nicoli_s | ouch |
| 22:22.05 | Cairenn | nicoli_s: besides which, Kaelten is busy crying about how people should be waiting for you guys to finally see about getting some yourselves, so you don't want to hurt his feelings by getting one from us |
| 22:22.24 | durcyn | yow! |
| 22:22.44 | nicoli_s | i believe we already have ours, we are just waiting to get it setup |
| 22:22.50 | nicoli_s | i was just kidding anyways :P |
| 22:22.59 | Cairenn | not from what Kaelten was just saying |
| 22:23.16 | Cairenn | (2010-07-12 18:13:19) Kaelten: Hey guys, we _will_ be getting beta keys. |
| 22:23.47 | nicoli_s | well i think its we have them, but no way to give them to people atm, though i could have hisheard through the grapevine |
| 22:24.20 | Dashkal | Make Kaelten's chair incrementally more uncomfortable each day :P |
| 22:24.37 | nicoli_s | thatd be fun |
| 22:24.48 | nicoli_s | or just tint his mac screen ever so slightly each day somehow |
| 22:24.55 | Dashkal | Now that's just evil :P |
| 22:26.39 | Stanzilla | wtb cata engb client downloader mirror! |
| 22:28.07 | Pneumatus | lol engb |
| 22:28.11 | Pneumatus | pros use the US client! |
| 22:28.28 | Pneumatus | (or those too lazy to re-patch an engb client after going through the rigmorole of setting up a us client) |
| 22:28.59 | nicoli_s | man im so on the fence with the new cinematicy approach they are taking to the worgen starting quests |
| 22:29.18 | nicoli_s | while some of them look cool, so much of it bugs out, or the animation just isnt smooth enough, and it just looks.....odd |
| 22:29.46 | Pneumatus | i'm holding off re-doing the worgen area till it's 'done' now |
| 22:30.12 | Lunessa | I've done it 3-4 times already. I'll be re-doing them after the next patch. |
| 22:30.24 | Pneumatus | managed to smuggle a worgen out in alpha before every other quest got broken, but since then i don't think it's been entirely completable |
| 22:30.25 | durcyn | nicoli_s: Kotick Want Cinematic, obviously. |
| 22:30.43 | cralor | Thanks Cairenn! :D |
| 22:30.47 | Cairenn | for the record, I was just pickiing on Kaelten, he knows I still <3 him |
| 22:30.53 | Shadowed | Nobody loves Kaelten |
| 22:30.57 | Shadowed | glares |
| 22:30.58 | Cairenn | I do |
| 22:31.00 | Shadowed | lies |
| 22:31.01 | Kaelten | Shadowed: tell me about it |
| 22:31.01 | cralor | I made sure I had the client before hand :D |
| 22:31.02 | Shadowed | Worgen area is pretty stable |
| 22:31.17 | Shadowed | You can complete it still thought Pneumatus |
| 22:31.22 | nicoli_s | well its stable, just the animations for all those cinematic "events" seem really unpolished |
| 22:31.27 | Shadowed | But you have to deal with 2 quests that are awful due to drop rates |
| 22:31.28 | Pneumatus | battle for gilneas was broken last i heard |
| 22:31.35 | Shadowed | It sort of works |
| 22:31.44 | Shadowed | There's still a bug where you crash doing the drowning quest |
| 22:31.47 | nevcairiel | so i rather run around exploring on my druid now and wait a bit until i do worgen land? |
| 22:32.20 | Pneumatus | i'd wait till the next patch nevcairiel, on the EU realm at least everyone ive spoken to that has tried to level a worgen has got stuck on some quest or other |
| 22:32.34 | nevcairiel | then i'll do that |
| 22:32.36 | nevcairiel | anyhow |
| 22:32.37 | nevcairiel | sleep |
| 22:32.39 | Lunessa | Actually, at level 1 I wandered out of the gate in Gilneas and wandered all over in a phased area gaining exploration XP. |
| 22:33.00 | Pneumatus | my worgen got stuck on gilneas for like a month after i managed to hearth back by accident from ashenvale :< |
| 22:33.01 | foxlit | lost to phoenix spam :/ |
| 22:33.06 | Pneumatus | and the teleporter NPC wouldnt teleport me |
| 22:33.38 | nicoli_s | yeah i managed to get outside gilneas at level 1 too |
| 22:33.41 | nicoli_s | then had to hearth back |
| 22:34.36 | Pneumatus | i hope they dont fix the shadowy apparition bug though, i love seeing them things crit for 3-4k at level 60 :> |
| 22:35.45 | ScytheBlade1 | so the other channels where I asked are dead |
| 22:36.02 | ScytheBlade1 | curious about how anything thinks I should lay the rest of this map out: http://images.aboveaverageurl.com/SC2/map.png |
| 22:36.26 | nicoli_s | what sort of map is it? |
| 22:36.40 | ScytheBlade1 | melee is the goal |
| 22:36.46 | ScytheBlade1 | either 1v1, 2v2, or whatever |
| 22:36.49 | NightHawkTheSane | ScytheBlade1: if i say more cowbell, will i get hit? :P |
| 22:36.58 | ScytheBlade1 | NightHawkTheSane: it is likely |
| 22:39.54 | Cide | for one it doesn't seem balanced |
| 22:40.03 | ScytheBlade1 | what isn't? |
| 22:40.14 | Cide | the island isn't horizontally centered I think |
| 22:40.26 | Cide | the gold has the minerals north, makes them shootable with siege tanks from the top ledge I think |
| 22:40.29 | ScytheBlade1 | I think it is off by one unit to the left |
| 22:40.36 | Cide | err |
| 22:40.36 | ScytheBlade1 | right, but that is fixable |
| 22:40.38 | Cide | vertically centered |
| 22:40.45 | ScytheBlade1 | oh |
| 22:40.53 | ScytheBlade1 | final map dimensions tbd |
| 22:40.56 | Cide | ah |
| 22:41.40 | ScytheBlade1 | looking for (1) ideal player count and (2) primary/natural base location(s) |
| 22:42.04 | Cide | 1v1 if you're only going to have one gold in the center I think |
| 22:42.45 | Cide | 2v2 maps tend to have a bit more expansions which would be hard to fit in there |
| 22:42.58 | ScytheBlade1 | keep in mind that final map dimensions are tbd |
| 22:43.09 | ScytheBlade1 | (but I kinda like the high contention central patch) |
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| 22:43.19 | ScytheBlade1 | I can make it big enough for 5v5 np |
| 22:43.22 | Cide | well the separation makes any expansions easy to defend |
| 22:43.32 | Cide | kinda easy to hold just two bridges |
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| 22:43.44 | Cide | they are bridges right? |
| 22:43.46 | ScytheBlade1 | unless you're doing 1v1 |
| 22:43.47 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah |
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| 22:44.39 | ScytheBlade1 | see, 1v1 would need to be smaller horizontally and probably a big bigger vertically |
| 22:44.49 | ScytheBlade1 | but 2v2 and more would probably be the opposite |
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| 22:48.07 | ScytheBlade1 | all of this cliff traversal kinda butchers a lot of what I'd like to do :p |
| 22:48.54 | Cide | lol |
| 22:49.05 | Cide | use 2-height differences |
| 22:49.12 | ScytheBlade1 | which I can do |
| 22:49.17 | ScytheBlade1 | but it tends to look tacky |
| 22:49.24 | Cide | yeah, maybe |
| 22:50.39 | ScytheBlade1 | I can always do 1-high walls and ground pathing blocks |
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| 22:54.45 | cog|work | Reuters makes great headlines... |
| 22:54.51 | cog|work | http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6622I420100703 |
| 22:56.41 | durcyn | let me guess, the gay/dix thing again |
| 22:57.12 | cog|work | -_- |
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| 23:03.10 | alestane | cog|work: http://www.threepanelsoul.com/view.php?date=2010-03-22 |
| 23:03.34 | Ressy | How long do you think til they enable addons again? I figure at least a month, considering they wanna kill McRun first. |
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| 23:03.45 | cog|work | alestane: lulz |
| 23:05.09 | alestane | My parents told me about the Syracuse paper the day after some riot: "An uneasy clam settled over the city last night..." |
| 23:05.43 | Dagmar | Quick! To the cracker factory! |
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| 23:06.07 | Dagmar | It's CHOWDERIN' time... |
| 23:06.15 | Xuerian | Antiarc: I want your babies. |
| 23:06.23 | Xuerian | Antiarc: I mean, uh, your minimap border texture. |
| 23:06.23 | cog|work | Ressy: that guess sounds about as fair as any... |
| 23:08.20 | Lunessa | Heh, I have a macro I use to strip my weapons of buffs, and I assigned a function to a 1letter local to save space... and the macro breaks in beta. |
| 23:10.45 | Lunessa | *chuckle* http://www.gucomics.com/comic/?cdate=20100712 |
| 23:10.50 | cog|work | Lunessa: not sure why... they haven't done anything yet... |
| 23:11.06 | Lunessa | cog|work: It's been broken for several patches. |
| 23:11.24 | Lunessa | Works on live, broken on beta. |
| 23:12.05 | cog|work | it's probably some other difference in the api or something then. |
| 23:12.39 | Tuller | hrm, there are some emotional high/lows here |
| 23:12.49 | Tuller | "yay, beta keys faster than expected" |
| 23:12.56 | Tuller | "doh, my tv decided to stop working" |
| 23:13.29 | alestane | I like this story, too: http://open.salon.com/blog/noahvose/2009/04/12/god_hates_fags |
| 23:13.29 | Kraps | lol at that title cog|work |
| 23:13.43 | alestane | Slightly NSFW. |
| 23:14.36 | alestane | (The story is not directly about the title line). |
| 23:16.36 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/25968989290/lylirra-is-a-godess/ |
| 23:16.50 | Antiarc | Xuerian: Eh? |
| 23:16.52 | Antiarc | It's pretty simple :P |
| 23:17.16 | Xuerian | ohsnap |
| 23:17.17 | Lunessa | alestane: "It's crucial that we always reexamine our beliefs, philosophies, and assumptions. " That's the best part of the whole post. |
| 23:17.38 | Xuerian | Antiarc: Sorry. I want Vharr's texture not yours. <.< |
| 23:17.42 | NightHawkTheSane | alestane: you saw the article thats made the rounds recently about how facts don't change people's minds? :\ |
| 23:17.44 | Antiarc | Oh, well, then |
| 23:18.18 | alestane | People believe what they believe, I'm afraid. Cloud the issue with facts and you usually just make them angry. |
| 23:19.01 | alestane | Dale Carnegie had a story about being at a dinner party where one of the other guests quoted the line "There's a divinity that shapes our ends, rough-hew them though we will," and swore it was from the Bible. |
| 23:19.12 | Lunessa | Most people telling you what the holy works of a faith state have rarely read those books. |
| 23:19.34 | alestane | Dale says he tried to correct the man a few times before an old teacher of his kicked him under the table. |
| 23:19.37 | Dagmar | The fancier the getup, the bigger hte lie |
| 23:20.22 | Dagmar | "Never trust a priest that makes more money than you" |
| 23:21.20 | Kraps | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25969519498&sid=1 |
| 23:25.35 | Kraps | dumbest thread ever? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25969039242&sid=1&pageNo=1 |
| 23:27.12 | alestane | Satellite does have high latency despite good bandwidth. |
| 23:27.29 | A-KO | EXTREMELY high latency |
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| 23:30.52 | ScytheBlade1 | about 44k miles to get up to the satellite and back down |
| 23:30.55 | ScytheBlade1 | never mind the return path |
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| 23:35.18 | Lunessa | lightspeed delays are still lightspeed delays. |
| 23:36.06 | NightHawkTheSane | clearly, the solution is FTL networking, so I can get what I want, before I actually download it. |
| 23:36.41 | Kraps | ^ |
| 23:37.15 | Lunessa | NHTS - Oh those whacky taychons. |
| 23:38.08 | Dagmar | Kraps: That link right there demonstrates the problem |
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| 23:38.28 | Dagmar | Someone is very obviously intentionally trolling and flamebaiting, and someone just says "please don't do that" |
| 23:38.31 | Dagmar | Screw that. |
| 23:39.02 | Kraps | Dagmar: even i'm writing in that thread :( |
| 23:39.04 | Cide | lua> #("ssssisiiiidsssii") |
| 23:39.04 | lua_bot | Cide: 16 |
| 23:39.20 | Dagmar | Send a squad of overmuscled guys who hate people with any vowels in their names over to his house to smash his PC into fragments. |
| 23:39.35 | Dagmar | ...and then kick his ass a few times, just to make sure things are crystal clear. |
| 23:39.47 | Dagmar | THEN hand him a 7-day ban from both the forums and the game. |
| 23:40.16 | Dagmar | Most definitely the last part |
| 23:41.06 | Kraps | if they dont hire more mods of increase the harshness of penalties the new forums wont do shit |
| 23:41.31 | Kraps | 1st of = or |
| 23:43.44 | NightHawkTheSane | woah: http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/cbc/100708/canada/canada_ottawa_ottawa_giant_hogweed_poisonous_blindness |
| 23:45.14 | Cide | that's how the earth will die 2012 |
| 23:45.18 | Cide | giant hogweed invasion |
| 23:47.57 | Dagmar | Kraps: check the end of the thread |
| 23:48.35 | Dagmar | I'm pretty much campaigning for them to start beheading trolls and setting up a realtime webcam to watch them being mounted on pikes, compared to that greentext going "Oh please stop being mean!" |
| 23:50.50 | Kraps | herp Dagmar http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25969039242&sid=1&pageNo=5 |
| 23:51.54 | Kraps | gg on Snow for completely missing the piont |
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| 23:57.06 | Dagmar | Kraps: Oh yeah, I've already taken a bite out of him |
| 23:57.49 | Kraps | you're getting banned :( |
| 23:58.08 | Dagmar | I'm tempted to bitch at him for his other post making it sound like we're at fault for not reporting people, and for not using the silence button |
| 23:58.19 | Dagmar | Kraps: I highly doubt it |
| 23:59.12 | Dagmar | I have probably 400+ people in my ignore list on Skywall, and I'm STILL seeing ignorant jackasses troll each other |
| 23:59.17 | Dagmar | Such measures do not work. |
