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| 00:15.37 | Shirik | wow |
| 00:15.42 | Shirik | is Lil' Wayne really that old now? |
| 00:15.42 | Gnarfoz | aion |
| 00:16.14 | Kraps | weezy in de buildin |
| 00:16.27 | Shirik | uh oh |
| 00:16.45 | Shirik | (17:11:53) (+nagios-wm) PROBLEM - Host srv167 is DOWN: PING CRITICAL - Packet loss = 100% |
| 00:16.45 | Shirik | (17:11:53) (+nagios-wm) PROBLEM - Host srv163 is DOWN: PING CRITICAL - Packet loss = 100% |
| 00:16.46 | Shirik | (17:11:53) (+nagios-wm) PROBLEM - Host srv155 is DOWN: PING CRITICAL - Packet loss = 100% |
| 00:16.48 | Shirik | etc etc |
| 00:16.49 | DWSR | woot |
| 00:16.55 | Shirik | like 30 lines of spam |
| 00:16.58 | DWSR | Shirik: How old is "that old"? |
| 00:17.19 | cogwheel | Shirik: y u brak it? |
| 00:17.43 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/138290 |
| 00:17.46 | Shirik | I especially like the last line |
| 00:18.23 | Gnarfoz | sounds more like your nagios box is down |
| 00:18.24 | Gnarfoz | ;p |
| 00:18.32 | DWSR | lol |
| 00:18.36 | Shirik | no that's Wikipedia |
| 00:18.46 | Shirik | and it really is down |
| 00:18.52 | DWSR | ^ |
| 00:18.59 | Gnarfoz | doesn't change a thing, tho |
| 00:19.00 | DWSR | Wiki's definitely broken. |
| 00:19.09 | Shirik | nagios is in fact working perfectly |
| 00:19.18 | Gnarfoz | also why is it reporting disk space when the host is unreachable ;p |
| 00:19.25 | Shirik | it's not |
| 00:19.28 | Gnarfoz | it is |
| 00:19.29 | Shirik | it's reporting that it failed to check |
| 00:19.42 | Gnarfoz | well, why did it check if the host is down :D |
| 00:19.52 | Shirik | they're separate triggers |
| 00:19.55 | Gnarfoz | doesn't nagios do dependencies? |
| 00:19.56 | Shirik | have you used nagios before? |
| 00:20.00 | Shirik | I don't think so |
| 00:20.06 | Gnarfoz | no, because it's utterly horrible to set up |
| 00:20.09 | Shirik | lol |
| 00:21.28 | amro | Gladiator in HoN: "Are you not entertained? Is this not why you're here?!" |
| 00:23.09 | Shirik | hahahah |
| 00:23.13 | Shirik | epic fail 4chan |
| 00:23.16 | Shirik | (17:16:47) (+Shiibot) Warning: Possible Wikipedia-related thread: http://boards.4chan.org/b/res/247978868 (this thread will be monitored for activity) |
| 00:23.22 | Shirik | they tried to attack Wikipedia while it was down |
| 00:23.54 | DWSR | Shirik: four oh four |
| 00:24.19 | Shirik | (17:22:58) (+Shiibot) All clear. (All watched threads return HTTP status 404) |
| 00:25.37 | DWSR | wikipedia's still down |
| 00:25.52 | DWSR | Shiibot lais! |
| 00:26.06 | Shirik | ? |
| 00:26.07 | amro | I don't think it's ever possible to say "All clear" in reference to 4chan |
| 00:26.10 | Shirik | what's he lying about |
| 00:26.11 | DWSR | This too |
| 00:26.21 | DWSR | Shirik: It being 'all clear'. Wiki's still down. |
| 00:26.28 | amro | All clear was about the 4chan thread |
| 00:26.35 | Shirik | the "all clear" is saying that there's no more detected 4chan attacks |
| 00:26.53 | amro | you should really add "...for now" to that message |
| 00:26.56 | Shirik | lol |
| 00:26.58 | DWSR | ^ |
| 00:27.14 | DJJeff | what addon(s) use the AceComm chat channel ? |
| 00:27.16 | Shirik | hahah |
| 00:27.17 | Shirik | fail |
| 00:27.19 | Shirik | (17:25:38)  -⺠Quit: +logmsgbot (~logmsgbot@fenari.wikimedia.org) (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) |
| 00:27.23 | Shirik | even their IRC bots are dying |
| 00:27.58 | amro | they're off to The Mall to watch the fireworks |
| 00:28.21 | Shirik | I think the servers were the fireworks |
| 00:28.42 | amro | quite likely at this point |
| 00:28.43 | DWSR | http://boards.4chan.org/b/res/247986292#q247986292 |
| 00:29.03 | DWSR | "mIRC channel" |
| 00:29.04 | DWSR | winnar. |
| 00:29.15 | Shirik | jesus christ |
| 00:29.19 | Shirik | kings of chaos |
| 00:29.21 | Shirik | that thing still exists? |
| 00:29.25 | Shirik | I played that in like middle school |
| 00:30.29 | Shirik | ........... |
| 00:30.33 | Shirik | second wave of warnings coming in |
| 00:30.46 | Shirik | (17:21:42) (tsnag) s4 replag on rosemary is CRITICAL: QUERY CRITICAL: SELECT ts_rc_age() returned 641.000000 |
| 00:30.54 | Shirik | now all the replication databases are getting pissed off |
| 00:31.31 | DJJeff | what if I make my warcraft charector name "m00t" |
| 00:31.36 | DJJeff | tehehehehehe |
| 00:31.52 | Jerub | DJJeff: then you'll have a character name with numerals in it. |
| 00:32.00 | Jerub | and i'd like to know how to do that... |
| 00:32.41 | amro | easy, begin a transfer |
| 00:32.44 | DJJeff | http://images.4chan.org/b/src/1278289396263.png |
| 00:32.48 | DJJeff | (yawn) |
| 00:32.57 | DJJeff | so racist some people are |
| 00:33.08 | DWSR | /b/ is effing hilarious |
| 00:33.20 | DWSR | In the way a retarded baby seal is hilarious |
| 00:33.39 | amro | at least baby seals are cute |
| 00:33.50 | DWSR | So's 4chan. |
| 00:33.58 | DWSR | In an STI kind of way. |
| 00:34.28 | DWSR | http://images.4chan.org/b/src/1278289833738.jpg |
| 00:36.51 | Shirik | yay |
| 00:36.54 | Shirik | cogwheel I got a badge |
| 00:37.00 | cogwheel | lulz |
| 00:37.03 | Shirik | I now declare myself victorious at stackoverflow and never will return again |
| 00:37.50 | cogwheel | now go vote up all my answers :> |
| 00:38.10 | cogwheel | kids |
| 00:38.57 | Shirik | lol |
| 00:39.22 | DWSR | http://is.gd/dfwG1 |
| 00:39.57 | Shirik | I have introduced DWSR to 4chan |
| 00:39.59 | Shirik | he will never be the same |
| 00:40.04 | DWSR | Hardly. |
| 00:40.13 | DWSR | I'm just at a level of boredom previously unreached. |
| 00:40.42 | DWSR | http://images.4chan.org/b/src/1278290098652.jpg WUT? |
| 00:40.49 | DWSR | Is that English? |
| 00:41.24 | Shirik | that's a meme |
| 00:41.34 | Gnarfoz | indeed |
| 00:41.39 | Gnarfoz | knowyourmeme.com ~ |
| 00:41.53 | Shirik | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Has%20anyone%20really%20been%20far%20even%20as%20decided%20to%20use%20even%20go%20want%20to%20do%20look%20more%20like%3F |
| 00:42.31 | Shirik | my favorite: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Has_anyone_really_been_far_as_decided_to_use_even_go_want_to_do_look_more_like |
| 00:43.13 | DWSR | pwned, imo. |
| 00:44.05 | DWSR | http://images.4chan.org/b/src/1278290152555.jpg |
| 00:45.57 | DWSR | http://images.4chan.org/b/src/1278290220959.jpg <--- And I'm done. |
| 00:53.13 | Shirik | goes off to finish his workout |
| 00:53.18 | Shirik | cogwheel was that you again? |
| 00:53.34 | cogwheel | hmm? |
| 00:53.35 | Shirik | I don't know if cogwheel is messing with my head or not |
| 00:54.05 | cogwheel | i've been afk for ~7 mins... |
| 00:54.48 | Jerub | wow, something's hammering elitist armory. I'm position #542 in queue.... |
| 00:55.06 | Shirik | oh |
| 00:55.17 | Jerub | must be everyone who can't ge ton wikipedia |
| 00:55.18 | Shirik | well somehow I have 41 rep now |
| 00:56.07 | Jerub | Shirik: 41 rep with whom? |
| 00:56.16 | Shirik | ... |
| 00:56.21 | Shirik | stack overflow |
| 00:56.34 | Jerub | oh, right |
| 00:56.56 | Shirik | cogwheel: When do votes reset? |
| 00:57.01 | Shirik | or is it straight 24 hours? |
| 00:57.12 | Jerub | votes... reset? |
| 00:57.15 | cogwheel | you had 21 when i left |
| 00:57.26 | cogwheel | yeah, wat? |
| 00:57.33 | Shirik | you can upvote 30 times a day no? |
| 00:57.39 | Jerub | oh, right |
| 00:57.44 | Jerub | hehe. 'up' vote |
| 00:57.57 | Jerub | you /are/ new to SO aren't you? |
| 00:58.03 | Shirik | yes ._. |
| 00:58.11 | Shirik | I blame cogwheel for getting me involved at all |
| 00:58.14 | Jerub | generally only downvotes. |
| 00:58.18 | cogwheel | ^ |
| 00:58.30 | Jerub | actually, apparently i upvote 3x more than down |
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| 00:58.49 | Shirik | well that's not very constructive now is it! |
| 00:59.03 | Jerub | oh, whlie you're here, my condecending answer here needs a little love |
| 00:59.04 | Jerub | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/664219/uninitialized-value-in-python/664430#664430 |
| 00:59.14 | DWSR | SO? |
| 00:59.41 | Jerub | it's negative again, and i'd rather it wasn't. :P |
| 00:59.57 | cogwheel | i think you're supposed to delete it :P |
| 01:00.32 | Jerub | cogwheel: pah. |
| 01:00.36 | Jerub | i've already got that badge. |
| 01:00.58 | cogwheel | if you leave it, it'll just keep getting you more downvotes |
| 01:01.27 | DWSR | Vote up requires 15 rep? |
| 01:01.28 | DWSR | Eff that./ |
| 01:01.29 | Jerub | cogwheel: downvotes aren't negative. |
| 01:01.52 | Jerub | DWSR: yeah, it's to avoid sockpuppets who haven't interacted from voting |
| 01:02.21 | cogwheel | Jerub: if an answer is down-voted, the answerer loses 2 rep (and the down-voter loses 1) |
| 01:02.31 | Jerub | cogwheel: that's why they're not negative |
| 01:03.04 | DWSR | lemme guess. |
| 01:03.09 | DWSR | down-voting requires positive rep? |
| 01:03.12 | Wobin | Jerub has 4k rep |
| 01:03.17 | Wobin | he can afford a few downvotes |
| 01:03.23 | cogwheel | DWSR: 15 points to vote means bots have to be really really smart |
| 01:03.41 | Jerub | DWSR: rep on SO isn't something that goes down. |
| 01:03.48 | Cide | stupid questions are stupid |
| 01:03.52 | Jerub | the more you interact with the site the higher it gets. |
| 01:04.17 | Jerub | neverending inflation of mediocrity. |
| 01:04.28 | Jerub | i played SO for a few weeks and got 1k |
| 01:04.32 | Shirik | well it COULD go down |
| 01:04.38 | Shirik | if you were really, really abusive or something |
| 01:04.43 | Jerub | Shirik: nah, it can't |
| 01:04.49 | Jerub | because that sort of behaviour gets you booted. |
| 01:05.00 | Shirik | well maybe you're only abusive enough for people to downvote you |
| 01:05.03 | Shirik | but not enough for everyone to hate you |
| 01:05.07 | Jerub | you would have to be a fucking /awesome/ troll to ever get your rep to go down in any serious way. |
| 01:05.09 | Shirik | lol |
| 01:05.24 | Cide | Fisker |
| 01:05.27 | Cide | we have a challenge for you |
| 01:05.32 | cogwheel | ha |
| 01:05.49 | Jerub | because you would have to answer questions in such a way that not even a fucking moron would upvote you, but without answering in a way as to make someone think your answer was 'epic' in anyway |
| 01:05.58 | Jerub | and also not be abuseive and get your account flagged. |
| 01:06.40 | cogwheel | Jerub: or just answer with something a little bit wrong |
| 01:06.45 | Jerub | cogwheel: you'll get upvotes. |
| 01:06.54 | Jerub | cogwheel: and you need 5 downs for every up. |
| 01:07.15 | DWSR | Fisker |
| 01:07.36 | cogwheel | Jerub: just take the bold off Ãmo ;) |
| 01:08.28 | Jerub | cogwheel: hm? oh, i'm not changing that answer. |
| 01:11.49 | DWSR | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3176752/is-it-bad-practice-to-have-php-conditional-statements-directly-called-from-the-in |
| 01:11.56 | DWSR | What the fuck is he even trying to do? |
| 01:12.12 | DWSR | Just trying to make sure that it all validates? |
| 01:12.26 | cogwheel | i ask myself that question a lot when i'm browsing SO |
| 01:12.32 | DWSR | lol |
| 01:12.36 | DWSR | I can think of a much easier way to do that. |
| 01:12.39 | DWSR | REGEX! WEEE! |
| 01:12.49 | Cide | regex is not the answer to internationalization dude |
| 01:12.53 | Cide | and neither is his version |
| 01:13.07 | DWSR | No, but to make his solution a little more elegant. |
| 01:13.29 | airtonix | regex cide |
| 01:13.38 | DWSR | Instead of writing a conditional for each l8n, just check the region and concat it to whatever the standard jquery validation script filename is. |
| 01:13.39 | DWSR | poof. |
| 01:13.47 | airtonix | homo |
| 01:13.58 | Cide | regex is not the answer to that either |
| 01:14.05 | Cide | a simple substring match would be |
| 01:14.10 | DWSR | It's all regex up in here. |
| 01:14.17 | Cide | people overuse regex way too much |
| 01:14.19 | Jerub | l10n |
| 01:14.23 | DWSR | sorry, yes. |
| 01:14.26 | DWSR | I realize I miscounted. |
| 01:14.31 | DWSR | It's g8n, l10n, right? |
| 01:14.35 | airtonix | cide |
| 01:14.41 | Wobin | I usually go by the old adage: "If you use regex to solve a problem, you now have two problems" |
| 01:14.44 | Jerub | a17n and i18n. yeah. i hate those words. |
| 01:15.02 | Jerub | Wobin: oft misquoted as jwz, but he was quoting a random on usenet. |
| 01:15.02 | Cide | airtonix |
| 01:15.11 | Jerub | (and jwz was talking about awk iirc) |
| 01:15.13 | airtonix | how does badboy detect spam ? |
| 01:15.19 | Wobin | Jerub: equally applicable |
| 01:15.25 | Cide | who the fuck is badboy |
| 01:15.30 | DWSR | Jerub: a17n? |
| 01:15.32 | DWSR | What the fuck? |
| 01:15.33 | Shirik | strange |
| 01:15.33 | Wobin | it's an addon, cide |
| 01:15.35 | Shirik | 01:11 Tim: power went off briefly again, lvs4 came back up properly this time, starting pybal on it again |
| 01:15.36 | Wobin | try to keep up |
| 01:15.41 | Cide | not with regex anyhow |
| 01:15.47 | Shirik | I would have thought wikimedia would have fail-overs for power outages |
| 01:15.54 | airtonix | how do you know cide |
| 01:16.03 | Cide | because lua doesn't support regex |
| 01:16.05 | DWSR | ^ |
| 01:16.05 | Cide | lolololsnap |
| 01:16.12 | Cide | Shirik: yeah... |
| 01:16.28 | Jerub | DWSR: accessability |
| 01:16.36 | Jerub | DWSR: i can't spell it, clearly. |
| 01:16.37 | airtonix | accessibility |
| 01:17.03 | DWSR | ah. |
| 01:17.04 | Cide | using that word aloen is bad accessibility |
| 01:17.04 | DWSR | Thanks. |
| 01:17.06 | Cide | alone |
| 01:17.09 | airtonix | Cide, so you dont put pattern matching in the same group as regex ? |
| 01:17.15 | Cide | strictly, no |
| 01:17.22 | Jerub | Cide: an old coworker of mine has two glass eyeballs. he prefers a17y ;) |
| 01:17.53 | Cide | lua's pattern matching has way fewer features |
| 01:18.29 | Cide | and according to Esamynn the bracket matching feature of lua's string matching conflicts with the rules of regular expressions |
| 01:19.07 | Jerub | Cide: well, regular expressions can't count, and therefore can't match brackets. |
| 01:19.11 | airtonix | did you just type the sound of an acronym? |
| 01:19.16 | airtonix | ._. |
| 01:19.24 | Cide | what? |
| 01:19.29 | airtonix | no |
| 01:19.30 | Jerub | airtonix: that was a mispelling of alone |
| 01:19.58 | airtonix | oh right esamynn is mispelling of alone |
| 01:21.00 | Cide | what? |
| 01:21.11 | Jerub | oh, that. Esamynn is a person. |
| 01:21.13 | Cide | Esamynn is a Person(tm) |
| 01:21.18 | Cide | in this channel |
| 01:21.59 | Cide | that should be a bannable offense |
| 01:22.09 | airtonix | referring to a person as if they were a specification document ? |
| 01:22.38 | Cide | no |
| 01:22.51 | Cide | I am referring to an earlier conversation I had with him where he claimed that was the case |
| 01:22.53 | Kraps | just cause 2 or half life 2 ep. 0, 1, 2? |
| 01:23.15 | Funkeh` | hl2 if you've never played it |
| 01:23.15 | Cide | didn't like jc2's controls so I'm saying the latter |
| 01:25.35 | Kraps | is there supposed to be a 3rd episode? |
| 01:25.44 | Cide | sometime before DNF is released |
| 01:25.51 | Cide | (or after) |
| 01:25.54 | Kraps | lol |
| 01:25.59 | Cide | hey, first non-stupid scam I've seen |
| 01:26.12 | Cide | http://pastey.net/138292 |
| 01:26.23 | Cide | about Aion |
| 01:27.12 | Kraps | Cide: but DNF WAS released! http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/748-Duke-Nukem-Forever |
| 01:27.32 | Cide | sure |
| 01:29.05 | DWSR | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3176726/from-a-given-number-set-a-var-to-1-if-negarive-and-to-1-if-positive-without-us <-- really? |
| 01:29.50 | DWSR | Last response. |
| 01:30.06 | DWSR | Daily WTF, imo. |
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| 01:33.31 | Cide | direction = distY > 0 - distY < 0 |
| 01:33.33 | Cide | that's awesome |
| 01:35.09 | DWSR | It's time for. |
| 01:35.23 | DWSR | http://homepage.mac.com/k.j.vinson/picard-facepalm2.jpg |
| 01:36.20 | DWSR | http://blog.kosmonaut.net/images/2008/April/captioning%20blooper.jpg |
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| 01:41.32 | Kraps | oh thats where "always bet on duke" is from |
| 01:43.17 | foxlit | DWSR: <3 genetic-algorithm tag |
| 01:43.29 | DWSR | There is much fail to be had. |
| 01:44.08 | DWSR | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3176846/image-control-url-setting <-- lolwut? |
| 01:49.24 | cogwheel | i c u Shirik |
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| 02:02.41 | kd3|hate`net | ah, one of the perks of living out in the boondocks |
| 02:02.51 | kd3|hate`net | neighbors shelling out for the $1k+ fireworks |
| 02:13.03 | Kraps | kd3|hate`net: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTSJAUul7I8 ? |
| 02:13.26 | kd3|hate`net | not so much, no |
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| 02:14.28 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 02:14.30 | Shirik | :/ |
| 02:14.32 | Shirik | (19:10:15) (@Shirik) can someone confirm that heresiarchguild.com is down? |
| 02:14.32 | Shirik | (19:10:29) * Disconnected |
| 02:14.35 | Shirik | also, icu cog|away |
| 02:14.39 | Shirik | not really, but I can claim that |
| 02:14.47 | Kraps | good song though |
| 02:15.24 | Shirik | also, cog|away / Jamash |
| 02:15.27 | Shirik | what is this "3" |
| 02:15.32 | Shirik | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3176867/what-do-i-do-if-constructor-fails-to-allocate-memory-in-c/3176883#3176883 |
| 02:15.33 | Shirik | on my comment |
| 02:16.11 | Jamash | it's how good your answer is by popular vote |
| 02:16.26 | Shirik | no |
| 02:16.27 | Shirik | not that 3 |
| 02:16.35 | Shirik | by this: I strongly suggest you unlearn that, because exceptions are in fact the only way to retain RAII safety in C++. |
| 02:17.22 | Jamash | hold your mouse over it |
| 02:17.42 | Shirik | oh wtf |
| 02:17.44 | Shirik | all these hidden features |
| 02:17.48 | Shirik | I didn't know I could upvote comments |
| 02:18.09 | Wobin | haha 4! |
| 02:18.09 | Jamash | firebug rocks |
| 02:18.13 | Wobin | upvotes |
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| 02:20.55 | Jamash | I like how all the pieces of the exodar have totally nonsensical names |
| 02:21.05 | Jamash | "the warp piston" |
| 02:21.20 | Wobin | that's totally sensical |
| 02:21.30 | Wobin | how are you going to drive the warp without the piston? |
| 02:22.10 | Jamash | suuuure |
| 02:22.36 | Shirik | what the fuck |
| 02:22.39 | Shirik | linode just migrated my server? |
| 02:22.50 | Shirik | boo @ downtime |
| 02:26.12 | Esamynn | Cide: conflicts isn't the write word, it is technically impossible to do balanced matching with a regular expression grammar, you can't strictly call Lua pattern matching syntax regular expressions, but they are close enough for all but academic purposes |
| 02:26.18 | airtonix | think i may have found a new code editor to replace geany |
| 02:26.26 | Cide | it isn't the write word eh |
| 02:26.37 | Esamynn | leave me alone :P |
| 02:26.45 | Cide | that's quite hilarious |
| 02:27.07 | Jamash | theres a technical term for lua patterns |
| 02:27.09 | airtonix | Jamash, have you used the dev tools in chrome ? |
| 02:27.11 | Jamash | "crap" |
| 02:27.18 | Esamynn | I'm trying to concentrate of figuring out how badly screwed I am because of the Cataclysm mapping changes :P |
| 02:27.24 | Esamynn | s/of/on/ |
| 02:27.36 | Cide | Esamynn: they are also not regular expressions when it's about being right or wrong (or as canadians have it, write or read) |
| 02:27.37 | Jamash | airtonix: nah |
| 02:27.39 | Odlaw | screwed with what |
| 02:27.56 | Jamash | I only used Chrome until firefox got private browsing |
| 02:28.49 | airtonix | Jamash,i stopped using firefox when having more than 5 tabs open causes opening a new tab to take more than 20 secs. |
| 02:29.07 | amro | I stopped using firefox when it started gaining sentience |
| 02:29.18 | Jamash | man the sentience is the best part |
| 02:29.39 | kd3|hate`net | remember when firefox was supposed to be seamonkey but fast? |
| 02:29.41 | airtonix | i stopped my bestiality fetish ... |
| 02:29.42 | kd3|hate`net | sighs |
| 02:30.03 | Jamash | I routinely have 20+ tabs open in firefox |
| 02:30.13 | airtonix | dude |
| 02:30.20 | Jamash | opening a new tab takes less time than I can accurately measure |
| 02:30.25 | airtonix | i'll be closing tabs for five minutes and still not see the end |
| 02:30.33 | kd3|hate`net | then you've got a busted profile |
| 02:30.37 | kd3|hate`net | or crap addons |
| 02:30.45 | airtonix | in chrome |
| 02:31.05 | airtonix | meaning i have so many tabs i can't see the door to my room |
| 02:31.33 | airtonix | and yet...opening a new tab takes less time than it does to click "new tab" |
| 02:31.38 | amro | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3176905/what-is-the-best-drug-for-coding-closed |
| 02:31.54 | Jamash | lisp |
| 02:31.56 | Shirik | yeah |
| 02:31.58 | Shirik | I almost answered that |
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| 02:33.09 | Jamash | can you define new operators in c++ using unicode math symbols? |
| 02:33.24 | Cide | IdOp. |
| 02:33.40 | Jamash | wat |
| 02:33.49 | Cide | www.lmgtfy.com |
| 02:34.36 | Esamynn | Odlaw: I work on Gatherer, dealing with phased terrain is going to be.... interesting |
| 02:36.12 | Jamash | google is not being helpful |
| 02:36.30 | Cide | http://cogwheel.info/idop/ |
| 02:38.45 | Jamash | does IdOp support things like Ã? |
| 02:40.05 | amro | why do you want to turn C++ into APL? |
| 02:40.18 | Jamash | I should think that would be obvious |
| 02:41.06 | amro | you bought an APL keyboard that you're trying to find ause for? |
| 02:41.39 | Jamash | good answer, but no, I'm trying to beat C++ into submission |
| 02:43.00 | Jamash | I suppose I could use preprocessor hackery |
| 02:43.00 | amro | if you're desperate you can add your own preprocessor |
| 02:43.14 | Jamash | tue |
| 02:43.17 | Jamash | *true |
| 02:45.10 | Jamash | the problem I have with C++ is that if you take out all the parts of the language that were implemented as kludges you'd be left with nothing |
| 02:47.26 | Jamash | I actually took a look at the boost multidimensional array library |
| 02:47.28 | Jamash | it's rubbish |
| 02:48.29 | amro | your problem with C++ is that you don't get it |
| 02:48.51 | Jamash | oh no, I get it |
| 02:49.31 | Jamash | it's an awkward, difficult to use toolkit for constructing awkward, difficult to use languages |
| 02:49.57 | amro | you clearly don't get it |
| 02:50.38 | Jamash | orly |
| 02:51.17 | Jamash | oh man google's logo is awesome today |
| 02:51.36 | Jamash | they're doing some very nice sprite animation with static images and JS |
| 02:51.38 | Jamash | and CSS |
| 02:52.43 | Jamash | what don't I get |
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| 02:52.49 | DWSR | Shirik |
| 02:54.12 | Shirik | DWSR |
| 02:54.22 | DWSR | ZNC is broked. |
| 02:54.24 | Jamash | man I hate exploring teldrassil as alliance |
| 02:54.29 | Shirik | server is down for emergency maintenance |
| 02:54.35 | Shirik | no more info than that |
| 02:54.47 | Jamash | I mean as horde |
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| 02:55.06 | DWSR | s/as horde// |
| 02:55.11 | DWSR | Shirik: Ah |
| 02:55.19 | DWSR | So inconvenient and shit. |
| 02:55.46 | amro | I stole Shirik's linode |
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| 02:57.31 | amro | too much gentoo on it though |
| 03:02.09 | Cairenn | Torhal: danke. I see you copied Dolby on it, so I won't worry about forwarding it to him |
| 03:05.54 | DWSR | anyway, later. |
| 03:06.18 | Jamash | I wish alts all had the same guild permissions |
| 03:06.51 | Jamash | ok I have a concept for an addon, tell me if this exists: It lets you rename people, items, spells, etc in game |
| 03:06.55 | Thunder_Child | make an officer alt / member alt cat with permissions |
| 03:07.13 | Jamash | this would be purely client-side, of course |
| 03:07.24 | Thunder_Child | Jamash: there was something like that for RP'ing |
| 03:07.33 | Thunder_Child | i dont remeber if/where/when/how/etc. |
| 03:07.55 | Wobin | Thunder_Child: I was wondering why you were including felines into your officer rankings |
| 03:07.56 | Jamash | I want to rename one of my guildmates Annoying McStupid |
| 03:08.12 | Wobin | Our bottom rank in the guild is ".Net Programmer" |
| 03:08.13 | Thunder_Child | Wobin: .... |
| 03:08.16 | Jamash | oh snap |
| 03:08.25 | Wobin | <Thunder_Child> make an officer alt / member alt cat with permissions |
| 03:08.36 | Thunder_Child | category |
| 03:08.39 | Jamash | I also want to rename "Hand of Gul'dan" to "Pimp Hand of Gul'dan" when cata releases |
| 03:08.44 | Wobin | yes, in retrospect =) |
| 03:09.05 | Wobin | but I pretty much scanned that line backwards |
| 03:09.31 | Thunder_Child | well, silly you then |
| 03:09.47 | Wobin | yes! |
| 03:14.32 | Torhal | Cairenn: np :) |
| 03:17.45 | Jerub | Shirik: 6 now |
| 03:17.51 | Shirik | ? |
| 03:17.55 | Jerub | Wobin: you're on Cael right? |
| 03:18.19 | Shirik | oh |
| 03:18.25 | Shirik | I really was referring to the comment when I mentioned that |
| 03:18.33 | Shirik | I strongly suggest you unlearn that, because exceptions are in fact the only way to retain RAII safety in C++. â Shirik 1 hour ago |
| 03:18.36 | Shirik | that |
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| 03:40.12 | Wobin | Jerub: not anymore |
| 03:40.20 | Jerub | Wobin: oh damn, where did you move to? |
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| 04:08.39 | Jerub | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FL7yD-0pqZg&feature=player_embedded |
| 04:12.04 | amro | 'customizable' |
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| 04:15.43 | Jerub | i feel like posting videos like that of conversations i've had with people in party chat. |
| 04:16.02 | Jerub | starting with the idiot in 264+ pvp gear who needed on the kings square bracers in hcos |
| 04:17.09 | cog|away | Jamash: you can blame Shirik for IdOp... He came up with a basic technique for making ^_^ an operator. |
| 04:17.25 | Jamash | ah |
| 04:17.36 | cogwheel | then i templatized it and made preprocessor code generators :) |
| 04:20.49 | Shadowed | ugh |
| 04:20.52 | Shadowed | wowheads tooltip JS is ugly |
| 04:25.01 | Shadowed | and I'm still not sure why half the tooltip JS for powered by stuff is full of scaling that I'm pretty sure nobody but them uses :| |
| 04:25.42 | Jerub | Shadowed: *nod* |
| 04:29.58 | Wobin | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1732348/regex-match-open-tags-except-xhtml-self-contained-tags |
| 04:30.05 | amro | ~lart Shadowed |
| 04:30.05 | purl | gives Shadowed a good seeing to |
| 04:30.07 | amro | use sigrie |
| 04:30.08 | Wobin | Jerub: Nagrand |
| 04:30.13 | Shadowed | Yes, I am |
| 04:30.15 | Wobin | come join us! |
| 04:30.17 | Jerub | Wobin: ah. my friends just moved from nagrand to cael. ;) |
| 04:30.23 | Shadowed | And Sigrie switched to showing Cataclysm statts on everything and both Bibi and Adys are out |
| 04:30.36 | Shadowed | So now I'm writing a replacement for wowheads tooltip library |
| 04:31.11 | amro | what do you mean by cataclysm stats? |
| 04:31.16 | Wobin | Jerub: pft, they should move back =P |
| 04:31.25 | Wobin | actually I have no idea why they moved to Cael =P |
| 04:31.39 | Shadowed | http://elitistarmory.com/us/mal'ganis/shadow Mouse over pretty much any item amro |
| 04:31.41 | Jerub | Wobin: they have relatives in <Bane> |
| 04:31.51 | Shadowed | Those are pretty much all Cataclysm versions |
| 04:31.58 | Shadowed | eg, no spell power |
| 04:32.10 | Jerub | and a gazzillion stamina? |
| 04:32.12 | Shadowed | yea |
| 04:32.26 | Jerub | what about th ehammer? |
| 04:32.45 | Shadowed | http://www.wowhead.com/item=50051 |
| 04:33.21 | Jerub | .. that's different, but also has spellpower |
| 04:33.43 | Fisker | Wobin |
| 04:33.56 | Jerub | Shadowed: i'm just confused. |
| 04:34.09 | Fisker | Wobin |
| 04:34.11 | Jerub | Shadowed: are you saying cataclysm sucks? |
| 04:34.14 | Shadowed | Not sure what you're confused about |
| 04:34.28 | Jerub | no, that doesn't follow either. |
| 04:34.29 | Shadowed | No, I'm saying I don't want to be showing the stats on Cataclysm items which is in closed beta, for a website that is for live :p |
| 04:34.31 | Jamash | he's saying he wants a good tooltip source with current build stats |
| 04:34.36 | Jerub | oh right :) |
| 04:34.57 | Jerub | Shadowed: the cataclysm version of that hammer is freaking silly too :/ |
| 04:35.14 | amro | on the other hand Shadowed, cataclysm will be out by the time you get wowhead to behave |
| 04:35.25 | Shadowed | oh I doubt that |
| 04:35.28 | Shadowed | I'll find a way to make it work |
| 04:35.36 | Shadowed | Swearing always gets something done eventually |
| 04:36.08 | Jerub | oh, heh |
| 04:36.09 | Jerub | http://elitistarmory.com/US/Dath'Remar/Pham |
| 04:36.13 | Jerub | that's a weekend of playing |
| 04:36.20 | Jerub | nailed 80 finally. |
| 04:36.35 | Fisker | Wobin |
| 04:37.13 | Jerub | didn't manage to con a spot in any raids except for FL |
| 04:37.16 | Jerub | which was a fuckign shambles. |
| 04:37.24 | Jerub | no one knows the ulduar fights anymore |
| 04:38.36 | Wobin | how can you fail FL? |
| 04:38.45 | amro | you just add AI |
| 04:38.56 | amro | ~rimshot |
| 04:38.57 | purl | badum-TISH! |
| 04:39.22 | Jerub | Wobin: well, we had 10 people, one person gave the raid a bit of lip about their amount of fail, so my driver got kicked from the raid. |
| 04:39.30 | Cairenn | Arrowmaster: ping? |
| 04:39.38 | Jerub | so he pulled, and spent 60 cuasing mahem, and FL come out. |
| 04:39.46 | Jerub | so i had to gun and drive my demo |
| 04:39.54 | Jerub | and i was the only driver who understood what pyrite was for. |
| 04:40.03 | Jerub | and i got targetted and died. |
| 04:40.14 | Jerub | ... so massive amounts of fail. |
| 04:40.27 | Jerub | i basically told the raidleader it was his fault we wiped, and i was going to find some adults to raid with |
| 04:41.15 | Fisker | Jerub |
| 04:42.13 | Jerub | (and then i found some adults to raid with and we killed the bastard) |
| 04:42.22 | Jerub | it was our weekly quest, in case that wasn't obvious |
| 04:42.36 | Jerub | at least when it's razorscale or whatever people usually 6-8man FL then recruit for the actual fight |
| 04:44.20 | cogwheel | Shirik: mine was the best |
| 04:45.53 | cogwheel | the one with 7 votes was the worst imo -_- |
| 04:47.13 | Jerub | wow armory statistics are always so wrong :/ |
| 04:47.23 | Jerub | apparently i managed to do HDTK 6 times over 2 days |
| 04:47.31 | Jerub | must have edited that from his memory |
| 04:47.35 | cogwheel | Shirik: i lied -_- |
| 04:47.43 | Shirik | ? |
| 04:48.23 | cogwheel | mine wasn't the best |
| 04:48.27 | cogwheel | yours was imo |
| 04:48.29 | Shirik | rofl |
| 04:48.33 | Shirik | yours was wrong :P |
| 04:48.50 | cogwheel | but definitely not the one with 7 :P |
| 04:48.59 | cogwheel | it was only wrong most of the time <.< |
| 04:49.30 | Shirik | I didn't realize you had answered that |
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| 04:52.14 | Shirik | I thought I could only get 200 rep in a day? |
| 04:52.22 | cogwheel | for up votes |
| 04:52.27 | cogwheel | accepted answers don't count |
| 04:53.31 | Shadowed | Jerub: Armory statistics aren't always wrong, but some of them are bugged and count for another |
| 04:53.40 | Shadowed | Like TOC10 counts for TOGC10 |
| 04:54.09 | Jerub | Shadowed: it reckons i've killed the last boss of DTK 6 times when i've only done it twice. |
| 04:54.21 | Jerub | but that makes sense, i was wondering why i'd managed to clear togc10 ;) |
| 04:54.24 | Shadowed | Yea theres probably another boss that counts towards that too, or it counts another boss in addition etc |
| 04:54.36 | Shadowed | It's a small minority that are messed up, but they are |
| 04:55.03 | Jerub | mmmquality |
| 05:04.31 | Xinhuan | i wish they will fix the "max gold ever owned" stat |
| 05:04.43 | Xinhuan | so i can estimate how much ppl actually have in gkps |
| 05:05.07 | Jerub | i find the 'biggest hit given/received' stats the most annoying |
| 05:05.15 | Jerub | you can't reset them, and they're valueless because of vehicle fights |
| 05:05.29 | Jerub | or fights like one in outland with the bombs. |
| 05:06.05 | Torhal | Or the Wrathgate event |
| 05:07.32 | Shirik | oops |
| 05:07.34 | Shirik | I think I'm capped |
| 05:07.39 | Shirik | I guess I should stop |
| 05:07.45 | cogwheel | chuckles |
| 05:07.52 | Shirik | someone upvoted me and I only got 2 rep >.> |
| 05:08.00 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: ? |
| 05:08.12 | cogwheel | that must mean you got down voted :P |
| 05:10.04 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: you pinged me? |
| 05:10.08 | Cairenn | PMs |
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| 05:10.16 | Cairenn | points <== way |
| 05:10.24 | Arrowmaster | ah |
| 05:11.21 | Fisker | Shirik cogwheel |
| 05:13.40 | cogwheel | betas Fisker around a bit with a large goblin |
| 05:14.56 | Fisker | i wish cogwheel |
| 05:15.14 | Fisker | i think you shouldn't beta me without actually betaing me |
| 05:15.45 | cogwheel | but that wouldn't be as fun |
| 05:15.48 | Jerub | a coworker of mine is in on the beta |
| 05:15.53 | Jerub | he just signed up on the website |
| 05:15.57 | Jerub | and got selected. |
| 05:16.21 | cogwheel | yeah... the forums have gone downhill big time since alpha ;) |
| 05:17.08 | Fisker | yeah i totally like Blizzard's supposed method of identifying the same user signing up for several betas |
| 05:17.27 | Fisker | like for example how this guy i know had both his Battle.net accounts invited to Cataclysm |
| 05:17.30 | Fisker | GG Blizzard |
| 05:18.44 | olafski | ahh still on about that eh :P |
| 05:18.59 | Fisker | yeah i like betas being wasted |
| 05:19.06 | olafski | yeah I'm sure that's your angle |
| 05:19.27 | Fisker | yes? |
| 05:19.40 | Fisker | One less beta wasted = one more chance i would've been betaed |
| 05:19.54 | Arrowmaster | i just took a break and watched the new karate kid movie |
| 05:19.56 | olafski | so the real angle is "I'm angry because I didn't get invited" :P |
| 05:20.05 | Fisker | no |
| 05:20.11 | olafski | poor fisker |
| 05:20.19 | olafski | nothing to do but rage =( |
| 05:20.24 | Fisker | that is an angle for an entirely different question olafski |
| 05:20.43 | Jerub | Arrowmaster: any good? |
| 05:20.50 | Arrowmaster | wasnt bad |
| 05:20.53 | Fisker | cogwheel |
| 05:21.06 | cogwheel | your mom http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2009/10/07/funktionide-the-robot-replacement-for-human-contact/ |
| 05:21.16 | Fisker | don't you think Blizzard should only invite one account per user? |
| 05:21.33 | Arrowmaster | might have just been the copy i got but i could see the moves that well which was a disappointment |
| 05:22.27 | Fisker | answer me cogwheel |
| 05:22.27 | Fisker | do it now. |
| 05:22.32 | cogwheel | i don't care who they invite as long as they kick out douchebags... |
| 05:22.55 | Fisker | what if a single person had all invites? |
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| 05:23.11 | Jamash | if that person was me |
| 05:23.55 | cogwheel | "Ooh! I have like 9 accounts (I can sign my on charter!) " o.o |
| 05:24.26 | Fisker | you're just mad you're not in the beta cogwheel |
| 05:24.34 | cogwheel | wat |
| 05:24.46 | Wobin | umad? |
| 05:25.01 | Fisker | yeah cogwheel |
| 05:25.02 | Fisker | LOLUMAD? |
| 05:25.04 | Jamash | I'm glad I'm not in the beta |
| 05:25.05 | cogwheel | i'm so in beta they had to change their next patch because of me |
| 05:25.15 | Jamash | I still have much to do in live |
| 05:26.06 | Fisker | yeah and you know what cogwheel ? |
| 05:26.11 | Fisker | they're probably keeping it for live too |
| 05:26.12 | Fisker | jerk. |
| 05:26.20 | cogwheel | doubt it |
| 05:26.27 | Fisker | also you owe me a beta |
| 05:26.29 | Fisker | for being a jerk :( |
| 05:26.32 | cogwheel | well... my mcrun thread on live forums did disappear... |
| 05:26.51 | Fisker | enjoy postwipe(tm) |
| 05:27.10 | Fisker | When people don't accept any and all changes Blizzard make |
| 05:27.28 | Corrodias | that's just the code we live by, Fisker |
| 05:27.34 | Corrodias | it's like samurai, only cooler |
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| 05:28.14 | Fisker | It's funny actually |
| 05:28.24 | Fisker | There's some new MVP's on the EU forums |
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| 05:28.56 | Fisker | i recall one of them being strongly against masterlooter policies since they could potentially lead to GM's being defrauded into making the wrong decision |
| 05:29.09 | Fisker | So they make this policy that is supposedly not going to do that |
| 05:29.12 | Fisker | But it happens anyway |
| 05:29.43 | Fisker | So a user reports that the policy wasn't followed when he had his items taken away and of course since he is now MVP he must of course agree to everything Blizzard does |
| 05:29.44 | Fisker | :3 |
| 05:30.30 | cog|sleep | sweet beta dreams, Fisker |
| 05:30.51 | Fisker | i hate you cog|sleep |
| 05:30.57 | Fisker | enjoy selling out |
| 05:30.58 | Fisker | :3 |
| 05:32.38 | Jerub | i don't want the beta anyway |
| 05:32.42 | Jerub | my toons will just be deleted |
| 05:32.48 | Fisker | feel free to give it to me |
| 05:33.37 | Jerub | Fisker: i don't have the beta |
| 05:34.24 | Fisker | maybe at some point you will have the opportunity |
| 05:34.33 | Fisker | in which case you have agreed to give it to me |
| 05:36.34 | Jerub | Fisker: no, i think i will post it in 6 parts on the internet |
| 05:36.39 | Jerub | and then have a treasure hunt to find it |
| 05:40.36 | Fisker | i will take you to court if you do not keep your promise |
| 05:41.17 | Jerub | Fisker: ahahaahhahaah |
| 05:41.18 | Jerub | i'm australian. |
| 05:41.30 | Fisker | all the more reason to sue you |
| 05:41.53 | Fisker | I heard in australia drawings of characters from the simpsons is considered child pornography |
| 05:42.26 | Fisker | maybe you got other fucked up laws like that |
| 05:42.34 | Fisker | for example if you promise me anything you have to keep it |
| 05:42.58 | Wobin | like "I promise I will -never- die"? |
| 05:43.23 | Fisker | indeed |
| 05:43.38 | Torhal | promptly chops off Wobins arms and legs. |
| 05:43.45 | Fisker | if you promise that australia should do anything in it's power to keep you alive |
| 05:43.46 | Torhal | Are you happy NOW?!? |
| 05:43.54 | Fisker | even if it means being a vegetable |
| 05:44.22 | Wobin | grows new ones, bigger and stronger than the ones before!!! |
| 05:44.46 | Fisker | humanity does not work that way |
| 05:44.47 | Fisker | good night |
| 05:45.50 | Torhal | Wobin: Damn it, man! |
| 05:46.03 | Torhal | How can I prove a point when you keep changing the laws of physics? |
| 05:46.30 | Fisker | what's physics got to do with that? |
| 05:46.53 | Torhal | You know, the amount of energy required to regenerate limbs that quickly. |
| 05:47.03 | Torhal | The ABILITY of the human body to do so... |
| 05:47.09 | Torhal | Blah, blah. |
| 05:47.42 | Fisker | you're losing a losing battle Torhal |
| 05:48.05 | Torhal | ties Fisker to an oil rig. |
| 05:48.45 | Fisker | http://failblog.org/2010/07/03/epic-fail-phtos-photoshop-fail-2/ <-that's a lot of junk |
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| 05:58.55 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 05:58.56 | Fisker | omg |
| 05:59.02 | Fisker | i've looked forward to this all day |
| 05:59.13 | Wobin | is it a beta key? |
| 05:59.17 | Fisker | no kd3 |
| 05:59.21 | Fisker | but good point |
| 05:59.35 | Shirik | is it my beta key? |
| 05:59.39 | Shirik | oh wait that's right I already have one hoho |
| 05:59.43 | Fisker | you don't |
| 06:00.02 | Fisker | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25712373730&sid=2000 <-We need Ghostcrawler in this thread |
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| 06:01.18 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 06:01.21 | Fisker | whatever sources you got |
| 06:01.28 | Fisker | YOU HAVE TO GET GHOSTCRAWLER IN THAT THREAD |
| 06:01.54 | Kraps | playing max payne at night is a bad idea |
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| 06:02.15 | Fisker | no Cairenn|afk |
| 06:02.20 | Fisker | you have to haaaaaaalp |
| 06:02.22 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: i am amused at the OP's name |
| 06:03.14 | Fisker | yeah |
| 06:04.17 | Fisker | i'm very serious |
| 06:04.18 | Kraps | its the name of a new erectile dysfunction drug: Mycoxaflopin |
| 06:04.19 | Fisker | everyone get in here |
| 06:04.56 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: that sounds like a drug to /get/ erectile dysfunction |
| 06:05.06 | Kraps | hmm |
| 06:05.21 | Thunder_Child | "dont have erectile dysfunction, well woryy no more...." |
| 06:05.29 | Thunder_Child | worry* |
| 06:06.46 | Fisker | we gotta use every resource Thunder_Child |
| 06:06.51 | Fisker | that person is going out of the beta |
| 06:07.19 | Thunder_Child | you are getting much too worked up over this Fisker |
| 06:07.26 | Fisker | no |
| 06:07.28 | Fisker | Zyn |
| 06:07.30 | Fisker | get in here |
| 06:07.45 | Xinhuan | what, fisker is in the erectile dysfunction alpha test? |
| 06:08.06 | Fisker | i wish Xinhuan |
| 06:08.16 | Fisker | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25712373730&sid=2000 <-gogo report him if you're in the beta |
| 06:08.46 | Xinhuan | as far as i can tell, the first post is already reported |
| 06:09.22 | Xinhuan | yep lol, so are almost all of his followup replies! |
| 06:09.54 | Kraps | Fisker: beta blows, why do you care? |
| 06:10.28 | Fisker | i will fuck you up Kraps |
| 06:10.38 | Fisker | then you are in the beta Xinhuan |
| 06:10.44 | Fisker | which means you just became my greatest enemy |
| 06:10.48 | Kraps | up on what? |
| 06:10.50 | Fisker | unless you can hook a brother up |
| 06:11.03 | Xinhuan | i've had it for months fisker |
| 06:11.06 | Xinhuan | ^_^ |
| 06:11.13 | Fisker | that means you can even hook a brother up |
| 06:11.53 | Xinhuan | i wonder if they will give keys out to give to friends like sc2... |
| 06:12.15 | Kraps | wouldnt apply to Fisker anyway |
| 06:13.06 | Shirik | Xinhuan: Error: Expected operand to left of ^_^ |
| 06:13.21 | Shadowed | oh amro you do MMOc stuff don't you |
| 06:13.26 | Kraps | hey worgen have their own language? |
| 06:13.27 | Shadowed | I think it's your javascript I'm hacking then |
| 06:13.34 | Kraps | http://cata.wowhead.com/spell=69270 |
| 06:14.37 | Fisker | remember Xinhuan |
| 06:14.49 | Fisker | there must always be a Fisker on beta |
| 06:15.08 | Xinhuan | /me goes to reserve Fisker on all the realms |
| 06:15.23 | Fisker | by Fisker i mean me and not just the name |
| 06:15.45 | Xinhuan | ^test |
| 06:15.54 | Kraps | who is this Fisker person? |
| 06:16.00 | Fisker | it is i |
| 06:17.39 | Kraps | i have beta |
| 06:17.46 | Fisker | no. |
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| 06:18.10 | Kraps | no? |
| 06:18.45 | Fisker | no. |
| 06:18.58 | Shirik | I have beta |
| 06:19.07 | Kraps | http://tinyurl.com/2bc8yk6 |
| 06:19.11 | Kraps | ^ beta |
| 06:19.16 | Shirik | lol |
| 06:21.19 | Kraps | http://lifehacker.com/tag/beta/ |
| 06:22.04 | Shirik | god I suck at this whole "eating right" thing |
| 06:22.14 | Shirik | today I thought I was dead on |
| 06:22.28 | Shirik | and I was happy for a second: Protein goal: 131g, actual: 129g |
| 06:22.42 | Shirik | Then I saw: Fat goal: 39g, actual: 64g |
| 06:22.50 | Kraps | http://lifehacker.com/5324095/first-look-at-firefox-40-design-mockups |
| 06:22.55 | Shirik | and what's worse is I'm still 1401 Calories underbudget |
| 06:22.57 | Kraps | lol chrome |
| 06:23.23 | Shirik | dude no Kraps |
| 06:23.26 | Shirik | my friend |
| 06:23.28 | Shirik | confused the hell out of me |
| 06:23.35 | Shirik | he installed firefox on his computer, but with a chrome skin |
| 06:23.41 | Shirik | it even has a shortcut that says chrome on it |
| 06:23.44 | Shirik | with their logo |
| 06:23.48 | Kraps | heh |
| 06:23.54 | Shirik | and I clicked it and I was like "why is this so slow to load omg" |
| 06:24.04 | Shirik | after a few minutes I went to check the version and realized it was firefox |
| 06:24.05 | Jerub | Kraps: and all of them suck |
| 06:24.31 | Jerub | tabs accross the top = fail |
| 06:24.35 | Kraps | i like the top one, title bars are a waste |
| 06:24.42 | Shirik | where would you rather have tabs |
| 06:24.49 | Jerub | down the left, like god intended. |
| 06:24.53 | Shirik | ew |
| 06:24.53 | Shirik | no |
| 06:24.57 | Kraps | no |
| 06:25.15 | Jerub | how do you manage having more than 80 tabs open without tabs down the left? |
| 06:25.37 | Kraps | you have to scroll anyway... |
| 06:25.41 | Shirik | they shrink |
| 06:26.11 | Jerub | Kraps: my tabs arrnage themselves in a tree automatically depending on the context i opened them from. |
| 06:26.22 | Shirik | only once did I ever run out of space for tabs |
| 06:26.25 | Shirik | I think I screenshotted it |
| 06:26.48 | Wobin | http://screencast.com/t/ZjlhOWQwNDk |
| 06:26.50 | Jerub | seriously, tabs accross the top = stoneage. |
| 06:27.24 | Wobin | is there a chrome plugin for vertical tabs? |
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| 06:27.46 | Shirik | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/74607e5d85246c2c441da848b988d6f4.png |
| 06:27.50 | Jerub | Wobin: no, it's impossible with the current way it's written. |
| 06:27.52 | Shirik | That's when you consider getting another window |
| 06:27.57 | Jerub | which is why firefox 4.0 having stupid tabs scares me so much. |
| 06:27.58 | Wobin | damn =( |
| 06:28.02 | Shirik | I actually ran out of space |
| 06:28.04 | Corrodias | chrome's container window is not editable by plugins |
| 06:28.06 | Shirik | you can see them going off the right side |
| 06:28.12 | Shirik | and amusingly there is no way to scroll to them |
| 06:28.15 | Shirik | so they just get "lost" |
| 06:28.18 | Jerub | Wobin: yeah, i cornered a chromium developer last year |
| 06:28.20 | Corrodias | aside from adding buttons on the address bar thing |
| 06:28.29 | Jerub | Shirik: sounds like you're living in the stoneage. |
| 06:28.34 | Shirik | nah |
| 06:28.36 | Jerub | Shirik: how do you group your tabs with your google queries anyway? |
| 06:28.42 | Corrodias | i like tabs along the top, because i'm gay. |
| 06:28.44 | Shirik | how do I? I don't |
| 06:28.46 | Shirik | but I could |
| 06:28.51 | Kraps | lolrik |
| 06:29.02 | Corrodias | vertical would make sense, though... |
| 06:29.28 | Shirik | nah |
| 06:29.31 | Shirik | nahnah |
| 06:29.33 | Shirik | tabs belong at the top |
| 06:29.45 | Shirik | when's the last time you saw a filing cabinet that you sift through from the side? |
| 06:29.57 | Jerub | grabs a screenshot |
| 06:29.59 | Shirik | NEVER |
| 06:30.16 | Corrodias | the last time? well, if you consider a filesystem to be like a filing cabinet... |
| 06:30.17 | Wobin | ahaha |
| 06:30.21 | Wobin | and my next turn? http://screencast.com/t/ZmRkYjA4M |
| 06:30.53 | Kraps | and jerub goes to build a sideways filing cabinet... |
| 06:31.06 | Shirik | Wobin: nice |
| 06:31.48 | Jerub | http://imgur.com/F4m2r |
| 06:32.13 | Jerub | that's my browser just ticking over, i'm not doing anything serious with it just now |
| 06:32.51 | Jerub | Wobin: i can't view those |
| 06:32.58 | Wobin | really? |
| 06:33.05 | Corrodias | damnit, firefox, why you gotta act up? |
| 06:33.12 | Wobin | what sort of error do you get? |
| 06:33.18 | Jerub | Wobin: nothing at all. |
| 06:33.25 | Corrodias | now it's opening tabs for links clicked in other programs at the end of the tab bar instead of next to the current one |
| 06:33.27 | Jerub | Wobin: i do get a scrabble game ad. |
| 06:33.40 | Wobin | that's not an ad |
| 06:33.42 | Fisker | stop being a troll Xinhuan |
| 06:33.45 | Fisker | you know what he meant |
| 06:33.47 | Wobin | those are my letters =P |
| 06:34.46 | Shadowed | yay |
| 06:34.51 | Shadowed | have a non evil wowhead tooltip library now |
| 06:35.34 | Fisker | oh u Xinhuan |
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| 06:40.26 | Jerub | Wobin: oh, right |
| 06:40.39 | Jerub | Wobin: that's pretty bad |
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| 06:47.30 | Jerub | do you think it's worth me buying the 264 crafted boots for my newly popped 80 warrior? |
| 06:47.42 | Wobin | yes |
| 06:47.46 | Jerub | i'm looking at it, only 8 saronite.... |
| 06:48.07 | Jerub | i've only got 5k gold,but i do have 200+ EoF i've not spent, i could spend it on saronite. |
| 06:48.16 | Jerub | wiat, 5 sarnoite. |
| 06:48.21 | Jerub | i could float that pretty easily. |
| 06:50.04 | Jerub | that'll get me off my blue 200 boots |
| 06:50.16 | Jerub | that and a new chestplate sets me up pretty well imho |
| 06:50.20 | Jerub | http://elitistarmory.com/US/Dath%27Remar/Pham |
| 06:51.01 | Jerub | i need so much titansteel :/ |
| 06:52.10 | Elkano | toc is still 30300, right? |
| 06:52.16 | Jerub | Elkano: yep |
| 06:53.15 | Xinhuan | is the purpose to pad your GS? hehe |
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| 06:54.01 | Jerub | Xinhuan: no... it's to upgrade my weakest items. |
| 06:54.06 | Wobin | http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/movies/man-dies-at-twilight-screening-20100705-zwmu.html?rand=1278308819773 |
| 06:54.26 | Dagmar | Holy crap it CAN bore someone to death! |
| 06:58.52 | Elkano | Torhal ping |
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| 07:01.49 | Jamash | fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu |
| 07:02.00 | Jamash | fire festival just ended and I didn't spend my blossoms on this character |
| 07:03.29 | Jerub | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7UmUX68KtE&feature=player_embedded |
| 07:04.03 | Wobin | <3 the muppets |
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| 07:05.12 | harl | hi |
| 07:07.30 | Jerub | Wobin: i love hte subtitles. |
| 07:08.03 | Jerub | and he plays the melons exactly in time with the music, it's actually really good |
| 07:10.13 | Dagmar | Jamash: Look on the bright side. They all stack so they'll only be taking up one bank slot... |
| 07:10.21 | Dagmar | ...for the entire year... mocking you. |
| 07:11.29 | Jerub | 1? |
| 07:11.37 | Jerub | you can't purchase anything good for less than 350 |
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| 07:14.52 | Wobin | this game is truly cursed http://screencast.com/t/ODg3YjAxM |
| 07:16.21 | Jerub | ... |
| 07:16.21 | Jerub | <3 |
| 07:16.22 | Jerub | http://www.youtube.com/user/MuppetsStudio#p/u/3/tgbNymZ7vqY |
| 07:16.38 | Dagmar | Hm... I guess they *did* end that holiday a bit early |
| 07:16.41 | Jerub | how did this reach 14 million views without me knowing about? |
| 07:16.54 | Dagmar | Time to go check the forums for some delicious tears |
| 07:17.21 | Dagmar | Wobin: What does that page require to actually, um, work |
| 07:17.50 | Dagmar | ...or are you actually playing scrabble |
| 07:18.00 | Wobin | I'm playing scrabble =P |
| 07:18.09 | Wobin | I'm complaining about the tiles I'm getting |
| 07:18.36 | Dagmar | Jerub: Dunno man. It's only um, like, 20 years old. |
| 07:19.03 | Jerub | Dagmar: this looks like it's recently remastered |
| 07:19.14 | Jerub | if it isn't actually recently create |
| 07:19.17 | Jerub | d |
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| 07:19.49 | Dagmar | Looks like they may have re-shot it |
| 07:19.57 | Dagmar | ...but hey, it's not like Muppets age |
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| 07:29.33 | Xinhuan | i ran 15/15 days of dailies on 2 chars and didn't get a single ice chip =/ |
| 07:29.50 | Jerub | Xinhuan: yeah, it's a bit shit how low that drop rate was |
| 07:29.59 | Jerub | but, otoh, this is a 2-pet festival |
| 07:31.20 | Fisker | rage with me Xinhuan |
| 07:31.23 | Fisker | 4 characters |
| 07:31.40 | Fisker | does yours include the initial 3 hours you have on the night it's enabled as well btw? |
| 07:35.58 | Dagmar | I have 'em both on my main |
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| 09:11.11 | Fiskerer | i will fuck you up :( |
| 09:11.54 | Sixen | orly |
| 09:13.37 | Fiskerer | Sixen you will fix me a beta |
| 09:14.15 | Kalroth | Fiskered! |
| 09:16.30 | Sixen | =| |
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| 09:29.47 | Fiskerer | rage Sixen |
| 09:29.56 | Fiskerer | then i was disconnected without even being told |
| 09:30.05 | Fiskerer | any free betas while i was gone? |
| 09:30.30 | airtonix | yes |
| 09:30.45 | Fiskerer | Sixen |
| 09:30.56 | Fiskerer | request that this guy: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25712373730&sid=2000 gets banned from beta and i get his place |
| 09:31.05 | airtonix | lol |
| 09:31.08 | airtonix | too late |
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| 09:31.15 | airtonix | i r gotn ur beta |
| 09:32.07 | Fiskerer | yeah but not that guys beta airtonix |
| 09:32.10 | Fiskerer | do it Sixen |
| 09:32.11 | Fiskerer | do it now. |
| 09:32.44 | airtonix | i let you belief it for good sleep |
| 09:33.25 | airtonix | hey fisker, it seems that your mitosis occured while you were sleeping |
| 09:33.45 | Kalroth | more like osmosis |
| 09:33.46 | Fiskerer | sweet |
| 09:33.53 | Fiskerer | is it something i can die from? |
| 09:34.13 | airtonix | I wasn't speaking to your peasant |
| 09:34.21 | airtonix | get back to licking my boots |
| 09:34.55 | airtonix | +_+ |
| 09:35.09 | Kalroth | Fisker has gnosis |
| 09:35.17 | Fiskerer | i'll lich king your boots |
| 09:35.29 | airtonix | i'll sally your turnbal |
| 09:35.36 | airtonix | wait no |
| 09:35.53 | airtonix | i'll take your beta |
| 09:36.19 | airtonix | logs into a beta |
| 09:36.22 | Kalroth | you can't take what he doesn't have!! |
| 09:36.45 | airtonix | he doesn't have what i took |
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| 09:52.03 | Torhal | Elkano: pong |
| 09:52.27 | Elkano | womeone forgot an acelocale string in latest arl |
| 09:52.50 | Fiskerer | it's getting hot in here Elkano |
| 09:52.57 | Fiskerer | so take off all my clothes |
| 09:53.11 | Elkano | do it yourself then... :/ |
| 09:54.04 | Kalroth | Do you really want Fisker to take off his clothes? You pervert. |
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| 09:55.36 | Fiskerer | nationen er lol Kalroth |
| 09:55.57 | Kalroth | nej eb stinker |
| 09:56.23 | Fiskerer | så skriver de om ham der ikke vil anholde folk med hash og han siger man "lige så godt kan forbyde alkohol så", og det er idioterne på nationen åbenbart for retarderede til at forstå er for at legalisere hash, og ikke nødvendigvis for at forbyde alkohol |
| 09:56.24 | Fiskerer | LOLD |
| 09:56.45 | Fiskerer | if i ever were to use Facebook it would be for this reason alone |
| 09:56.45 | Fiskerer | :3 |
| 09:59.38 | airtonix | legalise it |
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| 10:46.05 | Fisker | iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiim gonna sue Sixen |
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| 11:04.26 | Fisker | robokitty |
| 11:04.31 | Fisker | imma gonna soak up the sun |
| 11:06.28 | Zyn | and perish |
| 11:07.14 | Fisker | indeed |
| 11:07.18 | Fisker | but beta me Zyn |
| 11:07.22 | Fisker | if you have any heart at all |
| 11:07.24 | Fisker | you will beta me |
| 11:07.33 | Zyn | pffff, like I can do that at all |
| 11:08.35 | Zyn | just keep kneading your balls and hope for the best |
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| 11:28.43 | Fisker | one of these days Zyn |
| 11:30.46 | Jerub | *converts all emblems into crusader orbs* |
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| 13:31.06 | Kraps | mikma: thats pretty awesome |
| 13:37.13 | Kraps | sylvanaar: ping |
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| 13:52.40 | Fierceflame | Running into annoying errors again :S |
| 13:53.17 | Fierceflame | Someone here to answer two questions? :D (No not asktoask, just wondering if someone is available atm :P) |
| 13:58.47 | theorbtwo | Fierceflame: That *is* asktoask. |
| 13:58.53 | Kraps | ^ |
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| 14:00.50 | Kalroth | what about asknottoasktoask? |
| 14:01.16 | Thunder_Child | dont ask |
| 14:01.22 | Fierceflame | XD |
| 14:01.24 | Kalroth | :( |
| 14:03.11 | theorbtwo | Fierceflame: Ask you questions, and hang about until they are answered. |
| 14:03.13 | mikma | fierceflame: so... ? |
| 14:04.03 | Kraps | dont ask dont tell |
| 14:04.59 | Fierceflame | Typing/pasteying now :P |
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| 14:08.34 | Fierceflame | Well 2 questions :P |
| 14:08.34 | Fierceflame | First, when http://toptop18.pastey.net/138301 is printed it gives an error that I'm trying to concatenate a global that's nil, while that value is certainly not nil :S |
| 14:08.34 | Fierceflame | Secondly, I'm trying to compare the entered gearset to the current gearset, but it doesn't really work, will certainly break somewhere along the line, even though it /should/ work :S Code piece: http://toptop18.pastey.net/138302 |
| 14:10.52 | mikma | add prints! |
| 14:11.40 | Fierceflame | Whole code btw: http://toptop18.pastey.net/138303 |
| 14:12.00 | Fierceflame | Prints where? I got kinda much prints already :P |
| 14:12.12 | ScytheBlade1 | woo more work |
| 14:12.13 | ScytheBlade1 | :/ |
| 14:12.49 | Thunder_Child | stop answering your phone ScytheBlade1 |
| 14:14.08 | mikma | fierceflame: need to see the error too, otherwise it's useless |
| 14:14.49 | Fierceflame | 2 sec |
| 14:15.59 | Fierceflame | The error: http://toptop18.pastey.net/138304 |
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| 14:19.05 | mikma | well, you have stuff commented out in the line |
| 14:19.13 | Kraps | hey sylvanaar_atwork |
| 14:19.25 | sylvanaar_atwork | hey Kraps |
| 14:19.42 | Fierceflame | In the whole code? yes to prevent the error and do other stuff :P Removed the comment bit to reproduce error |
| 14:19.49 | Kraps | wanted to say something about prat |
| 14:19.56 | sylvanaar_atwork | whats that |
| 14:20.07 | Thunder_Child | better be about how awesome it is |
| 14:20.28 | Kraps | thats a given TC |
| 14:20.43 | sylvanaar_atwork | thanks |
| 14:21.22 | Kraps | text in the box where you type is very dark |
| 14:21.38 | sylvanaar_atwork | current version? |
| 14:21.48 | Kraps | yes |
| 14:22.09 | sylvanaar_atwork | thats really strange, latest version from where |
| 14:22.34 | Thunder_Child | 3.3.21 is the newest |
| 14:22.35 | Kraps | i used minion |
| 14:22.39 | Thunder_Child | and i dont have that issue |
| 14:24.21 | sylvanaar_atwork | ah i need to update wowi |
| 14:24.36 | sylvanaar_atwork | just a sec let me do that |
| 14:26.31 | mikma | fierceflame: clearly line 79 is returning nil because of something |
| 14:27.23 | Fierceflame | What I thought was that the ' in the string might be causing the error, but escaping them with a \ has no effect either :S |
| 14:28.25 | Fierceflame | As the error also says 'FF_EnablePvP_Variable_PvPGearset' instead of without ´ ´ around it |
| 14:28.45 | mikma | FF_EnablePvP_Variable_PvPGearset is nil |
| 14:29.01 | Xinhuan | umm isn't the error obvious? |
| 14:29.12 | Xinhuan | the double dash comments out the remainder of the line |
| 14:29.21 | Xinhuan | its irrelevant that there is a [[ ]] comment block in it |
| 14:29.38 | Fierceflame | [16:19] <Fierceflame> In the whole code? yes to prevent the error and do other stuff :P Removed the comment bit to reproduce error |
| 14:29.52 | Fierceflame | Ive removed those comments and the error will pop up ±P |
| 14:30.40 | Fierceflame | And it can;t be nil,a s I must ahve set it to trigger that peice of code, and its set in the initsettings |
| 14:30.59 | Xinhuan | so whats the actual line 79 |
| 14:31.55 | Fierceflame | Currently it's: gearsetchanged = "The gearset PvP will be enabled for is set to \'gearsetname"..FF_EnablePvP_Variable_PvPGearset.."\'.", |
| 14:32.19 | Xinhuan | the variable FF_EnablePvP_Variable_PvPGearset is intepreted at compile time |
| 14:32.23 | Xinhuan | its nil |
| 14:32.36 | Xinhuan | or rather not compile time |
| 14:32.41 | Xinhuan | or rather when the file is executed |
| 14:32.44 | Xinhuan | as a chunk |
| 14:33.06 | Fierceflame | So that global is set in teh table when the code is loaded and not changed thereafter? Oo |
| 14:33.13 | Xinhuan | no |
| 14:33.20 | Xinhuan | Lua executes code line by line |
| 14:33.41 | Xinhuan | at line 1, you created a function and assigned it to initsettings |
| 14:33.46 | Xinhuan | same at line 9 |
| 14:33.52 | Xinhuan | at line 48, you created a frame |
| 14:34.01 | Xinhuan | then at 68, you created a global |
| 14:34.12 | Xinhuan | then at 70, the table constructor {} creates a table with the contents |
| 14:34.22 | Xinhuan | and it parses FF_EnablePvP_Variable_PvPGearset as nil |
| 14:34.33 | Xinhuan | your code never got past line 79 |
| 14:34.34 | Kraps | "'Spy' vixen's kinky sex secrets exposed" |
| 14:34.40 | Xinhuan | nothing below that is executed |
| 14:35.28 | Xinhuan | now the frame did get created at line 48, and you registered for the event at 49 and 50 |
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| 14:35.51 | Xinhuan | so those will run when the event fires - but they don't fire because your addon never completed loading |
| 14:36.27 | Fisker | halp |
| 14:36.47 | Fierceflame | Well that's clear, but how comes that global is nil as it's set to a value? |
| 14:36.57 | Xinhuan | its not set to a value |
| 14:36.59 | Xinhuan | that's what i'm saying |
| 14:37.05 | Xinhuan | initsettings() never got called |
| 14:37.44 | Xinhuan | line 1 merely assigns the definition of a function to the variable initsettings - it doesn't call the function |
| 14:38.05 | Fierceflame | Aaaaaaaah got it |
| 14:38.23 | Fierceflame | *trying some stuff* |
| 14:38.24 | Xinhuan | ADDON_LOADED event doesn't get fired because your addon errored before the whole file is parsed |
| 14:38.35 | Xinhuan | your addon failed to load in its entirety |
| 14:38.52 | Fierceflame | Hmmm |
| 14:39.02 | Xinhuan | in otherwords, just get rid of your initsettings() function |
| 14:39.06 | Kraps | Fisker: heres more beta pictures http://tinyurl.com/2cv9el3 |
| 14:39.13 | Xinhuan | i.e comment out lines 1 and 7 |
| 14:40.03 | Fierceflame | Not working :P |
| 14:40.10 | Xinhuan | or you could just call initsettings() directly before line 70, on line 69 |
| 14:40.14 | Fisker | my computer can't run images |
| 14:40.48 | Kraps | can it walk them? |
| 14:40.58 | Fisker | not likely |
| 14:41.02 | Fierceflame | Xinhuan, it still gives an error when I set that global manually(And so it should make it a SavedVariable) |
| 14:41.08 | Kraps | dance? |
| 14:41.16 | Kraps | sing? |
| 14:41.25 | Kraps | cuddle? |
| 14:41.31 | Xinhuan | ok, the variable has to be set before line 70 |
| 14:41.35 | Fisker | at the moment using the mouse takes up so much cpu that audio begins to fuck up |
| 14:41.42 | Xinhuan | and not inside a function, unless you call the function before line 70 |
| 14:41.45 | Fierceflame | Is a SavedVariable set before parsing? |
| 14:41.48 | Xinhuan | no |
| 14:41.58 | Fierceflame | Gonna try if I can fix it then |
| 14:41.59 | Kraps | lolwut |
| 14:42.08 | Xinhuan | SavedVariables are loaded from file only just before ADDON_LOADED |
| 14:42.19 | Xinhuan | and only after all files specified in your .toc are loaded |
| 14:43.39 | Xinhuan | this does mean that Savedvars can/will overwrite any default values your .lua files specify |
| 14:43.47 | Xinhuan | as they load after the addon files |
| 14:43.52 | Fierceflame | Sooo can I make nearly my whole code triggered by ADDON_LOADED then, as the global should eb saved between session and cause of that I cant just set it to anything before parsing |
| 14:44.04 | Fierceflame | Ooohkay |
| 14:44.30 | Xinhuan | the savedvariables for your addon is just another .lua file |
| 14:44.55 | Fierceflame | So if I get it right I can just always do the initsettigns aprt and if anything else in previous sessions has been set it will be set to that and overwritten? |
| 14:46.14 | Kraps | why are they having "less pre-healing"? thats what disc IS |
| 14:46.23 | Xinhuan | why do you even need the initsettings |
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| 14:46.54 | Xinhuan | if you look at your pastey about 20 min ago, and get rid of line 1 and 7, leaving just the lines 2-6 assignments, you'll be fine |
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| 14:47.09 | Fierceflame | ye did that now |
| 14:47.11 | Fierceflame | Works |
| 14:47.31 | Fierceflame | Thanks :D |
| 14:47.52 | Kraps | http://www.wow.com/2010/07/05/around-azeroth-too-soon/ |
| 14:49.20 | Fierceflame | Now gonna get some icecream before going onto the other bug, thats ahrder to fix me thinks |
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| 14:51.17 | Kraps | lol the writer is getting pounded |
| 14:51.38 | Kraps | "It's very sad when people die in so-called "real-life". I have lost a few people close to me and it was awful. |
| 14:51.39 | Kraps | My main in WoW has personally killed 39, 201 humanoids. |
| 14:51.41 | Kraps | I have a lot of alts, too. |
| 14:51.42 | Kraps | c wut I did there?" |
| 14:54.25 | Xinhuan | heh |
| 14:54.49 | Ackis | olafski: frontierville go! :D |
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| 14:58.06 | Ackis | on a side note, all you yanks who live in the south: how the hell do you survive 40C weather? |
| 14:58.47 | Seerah | barely |
| 14:58.47 | Seerah | air conditioning |
| 14:58.58 | Thunder_Child | ^ |
| 14:59.11 | A-KO | it might break 40C tomorrow here :D |
| 14:59.18 | Kraps | hows the humidity? |
| 14:59.18 | A-KO | 39C is the "official" forecast |
| 14:59.21 | A-KO | shit |
| 14:59.33 | A-KO | right now, at 11AM, it's 34C and "feels like" 35C |
| 14:59.38 | A-KO | forecasted high of 37C today |
| 14:59.40 | Ackis | it was 34C where I was with a humidex to make it feel like 40Cish :( |
| 14:59.52 | Ackis | now I'm back home, it's like 13C out so it's normal temp :P |
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| 15:00.14 | A-KO | Ackis: oh, my car doesn't have working a/c either |
| 15:00.23 | A-KO | 38% humidity tomorrow, not too bad |
| 15:00.30 | Ackis | ouch |
| 15:00.32 | A-KO | it's really bad when it gets to 70%+ humidity though |
| 15:01.11 | Kraps | nyc has the same thing, 100 miles upstate its usually hot because of the sun, in nyc the humidity prevents breathing |
| 15:01.32 | A-KO | yeah, most of the east coast is like that |
| 15:01.44 | A-KO | the appalachians keep the humidity in pretty well |
| 15:01.49 | A-KO | :P |
| 15:01.49 | Thunder_Child | i thought that was the humanity that prevents breathing |
| 15:02.07 | A-KO | although, I'll be honest, Texas is far more humid than you would think it would be |
| 15:02.11 | A-KO | but Dallas, TX |
| 15:02.16 | A-KO | it's unbearably hot there |
| 15:02.33 | A-KO | in August, anyway |
| 15:03.35 | Xinhuan | lol ackis |
| 15:04.03 | Xinhuan | 31C is the avg all year round where i am |
| 15:05.00 | Ackis | Xinhuan: you live in crazyville then |
| 15:05.00 | Ackis | :P |
| 15:05.20 | Xinhuan | damn my total sum of spendings is like 150 usd on steam last 10 days |
| 15:05.25 | Xinhuan | $15 per day seemed so little |
| 15:05.48 | Elkano | well, I already had most of the stuff I was interested in ^^ |
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| 15:05.58 | DWSR | hey all |
| 15:05.59 | Kraps | Ackis: you live in NFDL? |
| 15:06.13 | Kraps | (wrong abbr.?) |
| 15:06.13 | Ackis | NFDL? |
| 15:06.13 | DWSR | :o a Newfie? |
| 15:06.18 | Xinhuan | does mean you probably spent more then Elkano :P |
| 15:06.27 | DWSR | Ackis: Newfoundland? |
| 15:06.31 | Ackis | no |
| 15:06.32 | Ackis | Alberta |
| 15:06.36 | Elkano | or I wasn't interested in that many games ;) |
| 15:06.45 | Ackis | I was visiting Manitoba last week though |
| 15:06.47 | Kraps | oh on the other side |
| 15:07.02 | Kraps | lots of trees |
| 15:07.05 | Ackis | drove over 3500km in the past week |
| 15:07.11 | Ackis | Kraps: and hills |
| 15:07.11 | A-KO | nice Ackis |
| 15:07.13 | A-KO | that's awesome |
| 15:07.14 | A-KO | solo? |
| 15:07.24 | Ackis | my fiancee was with me |
| 15:07.28 | DWSR | Ackis: There's no trees in Alberta. |
| 15:07.28 | A-KO | ahhh |
| 15:07.29 | DWSR | Or Manitoba. |
| 15:07.33 | DWSR | It's all flat grassland. |
| 15:07.35 | DWSR | /sarcasm |
| 15:07.42 | A-KO | Ackis: one of the things I'd like to do is drive as far north as I can one day |
| 15:07.43 | A-KO | see how far I get |
| 15:07.55 | Ackis | if you go in the winter, you can get all the way north |
| 15:08.00 | Ackis | during the summer you can't |
| 15:08.01 | A-KO | I think if I go up into Quebec, the furthest northernmost road goes to Newfoundland |
| 15:08.01 | Fierceflame | Back :D, Now for the other bug. |
| 15:08.02 | Fierceflame | I'm trying to compare the entered gearset to the current gearset, but it doesn't really work, will certainly break somewhere along the line, even though it /should/ work :S Code: http://toptop18.pastey.net/138305/16:17:18:19:20:21:22:23:24:25:26:27:28:29:30:31:32:33 |
| 15:08.08 | Kraps | A-KO: where from? |
| 15:08.13 | A-KO | Kraps: Baltimore, MD, USA :P |
| 15:08.17 | A-KO | so east coast type thing |
| 15:08.22 | Kraps | heh |
| 15:08.25 | Ackis | I want to drive up to yellowknife one year |
| 15:08.30 | Ackis | just to see where I was born |
| 15:08.36 | Kraps | stop in ny and pick me up |
| 15:08.38 | DWSR | I've been to the northernmost point in Newfoundland. |
| 15:08.43 | A-KO | nice DWSR |
| 15:08.44 | DWSR | It's effing cold up there. |
| 15:08.47 | A-KO | haha |
| 15:08.47 | DWSR | Even in the middle of summer. |
| 15:09.16 | Ackis | Hmmm it's only 1500km to yellowknife |
| 15:09.36 | Kraps | Ackis: so you drive on the frozen lakes? |
| 15:09.42 | A-KO | Kraps: I'll let you know :P I do long drives to Canada once in a while |
| 15:09.44 | DWSR | http://questionablecontent.net/ <--- win |
| 15:09.49 | A-KO | I've been to Montreal quite a few times |
| 15:09.53 | DWSR | Kraps: Yes. |
| 15:10.01 | Ackis | Kraps: ice roads/frozen rivers |
| 15:10.16 | Kraps | has seen Ice Road Truckers |
| 15:10.28 | DWSR | I've driven along roads like that. |
| 15:10.30 | Ackis | there's probably a way during the summer tbh, not sure |
| 15:10.31 | DWSR | Scary as hell. |
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| 15:11.07 | A-KO | jesus Ackis |
| 15:11.11 | A-KO | I dunno if I'd do all that |
| 15:11.12 | A-KO | driving on ice roads |
| 15:11.23 | Kraps | lol wimp :p |
| 15:11.24 | A-KO | don't even think my vehicle (2 wheel drive) could do it :P |
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| 15:11.53 | A-KO | off to the aquarium :P bbl |
| 15:12.22 | Kraps | DWSR: that comic makes no sense :/ |
| 15:12.26 | DWSR | Of course it does. |
| 15:12.42 | DWSR | That's one you don't even need a character background to understand. |
| 15:18.07 | Kraps | http://www.videogameslive.com/index.php?s=dates |
| 15:18.25 | DWSR | Plot Outline : After the Enterprise is diverted to the Romulan planet of Romulus, supposedly because they want to negotiate a truce, the Federation soon find out the Romulans are planning an attack on Earth. <--- Win. |
| 15:18.30 | DWSR | The Romulan planet of Romulus. |
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| 15:27.27 | Kraps | why does wow music sound so much better outside the game? |
| 15:27.43 | Fierceflame | Cause ingame you dont really notice it? |
| 15:27.48 | DWSR | Because inside the game you have to listen to Other Things (tm) |
| 15:27.52 | Fierceflame | Just l;ike stuff looks much better in screenies |
| 15:28.58 | DWSR | Quick, recent movie that was released on DVD that doesn't suck. Go. |
| 15:30.11 | Kraps | DWSR: thats not a question with a quick answer |
| 15:31.56 | Kraps | this is pretty good http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6936786870782321920# |
| 15:33.34 | cog|work | is beginning to wonder if he's the only one at work today |
| 15:36.26 | Kraps | DWSR: http://beta.rottentomatoes.com/dvd/top_rentals.php |
| 15:38.18 | Fierceflame | Vacation? :P |
| 15:38.32 | cog|work | WAT |
| 15:38.35 | cog|work | no fisker! |
| 15:39.26 | Ackis | wait there isn't a fisker around |
| 15:39.29 | Ackis | ~seen fisker |
| 15:39.30 | purl | fisker <~n_a@85.24.18.218.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 57m 55s ago, saying: 'at the moment using the mouse takes up so much cpu that audio begins to fuck up'. |
| 15:39.42 | |Jelly| | Does this mean we have to drink twice? |
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| 15:49.11 | fisker | oh lol lol lol |
| 15:49.15 | fisker | let's see what does he do now |
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| 15:49.40 | DWSR | Fisker. |
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| 15:49.51 | fisker | dwsr. |
| 15:50.02 | fisker | beta beta beta gief nao |
| 15:50.13 | DWSR | If you can successfully troll SO, you can get a beta key. |
| 15:50.53 | fisker | Shirik|Gh i hate you |
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| 15:58.59 | cog|work | hmm... still no one else at work... |
| 16:06.38 | Iriel | cog|work: isn't it a holiday? |
| 16:06.51 | DWSR | no0 |
| 16:06.56 | DWSR | It's the 5th of July. |
| 16:07.21 | Iriel | yes, but since the 4th was a sunday, in most places that means the holiday moves out to the 5th |
| 16:07.50 | DWSR | The 1st was a holiday here.\ |
| 16:07.56 | DWSR | It was a Thursday. |
| 16:08.46 | Thunder_Child | you people dont count |
| 16:11.02 | cog|work | Iriel: there's never any pattern around here in that regard. We usually have to ask the week of thanksgiving whether we'll have the wednesday and friday off |
| 16:11.23 | cog|work | but yeah... I'm going home... |
| 16:13.49 | fisker | cog|away i hate you |
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| 16:16.56 | Thunder_Child | grapes dont stop growing just because it's a holiday cog|away! |
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| 16:23.10 | Wobin | nice |
| 16:23.15 | Wobin | I like the newbie hunter changes |
| 16:23.23 | Wobin | teaches you more about pet tanking |
| 16:23.51 | Wobin | although, it may lead to terrible things in earlier dungeons |
| 16:24.54 | Thunder_Child | <creepy voice> teeeeeeerible </creepy voice> |
| 16:25.25 | Jamash | hunters have always been terrible in early dungeons |
| 16:25.32 | Jamash | I say this as a hunter who used to be terrible |
| 16:25.54 | Thunder_Child | what do you mean used to? |
| 16:26.33 | Jamash | OH HO HO GOOD SIR I CAN SEE WHAT YOU HAVE DONE THERE |
| 16:26.55 | Thunder_Child | i should hope so |
| 16:26.59 | Jamash | adjusts his monocle and top hat. |
| 16:27.21 | Jamash | speaking of which, top hats, best change in cata? |
| 16:28.19 | Thunder_Child | but you cant have both because they both take up head slots :( |
| 16:28.27 | Thunder_Child | needs to be a combo top hat and monicle |
| 16:28.38 | Jamash | Yes. |
| 16:29.51 | Kraps | hut tub time machine is really stupid and fucking hilarious |
| 16:29.58 | Kraps | hot* |
| 16:30.19 | amro | Iriel: huh, here we're screwed if holidays overlap |
| 16:37.07 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spIrhYfwi5c |
| 16:39.47 | foxlit | Heh, awesome. |
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| 16:40.16 | cog|away | Thunder_Child: 'cause i have SO much to do with growing grapes :P |
| 16:40.37 | foxlit | Display goes to sleep; I wake it up, it prompts for password while still displaying the desktop; I hit escape, it displays the screensaver; I hit escape again, and it returns to desktop without asking for a password. |
| 16:41.10 | fisker | foxlit is ok, i hate you |
| 16:41.56 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTFKjJaV15I |
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| 16:47.23 | cogwheel | fisker: http://cogwheel.info/upload/files/umadfisker2.jpg |
| 16:48.03 | cogwheel | i should make a series of "u mad, fisker?" postcards from all around cataclysm... |
| 16:48.24 | foxlit | Oh wow that robe is horrible |
| 16:48.47 | cogwheel | foxlit: it's a quest reward -_- |
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| 16:49.04 | foxlit | cogwheel: it looks pretty, yet so wrong on a worgen. |
| 16:49.14 | Seerah | do you really need an epic looking robe at lvl 7? :p |
| 16:49.25 | Seerah | it's better than the little shirts and pants |
| 16:49.33 | foxlit | You need a thematically fitting robe at lvl 7, though |
| 16:50.28 | foxlit | [for comparison, see the blood elf starting quest gear -- it forms a neat set that fits with the look of the rest of the place] |
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| 16:53.37 | fisker | cogwheel: beta beta beta lol |
| 16:56.11 | Gnarfoz | fisker: you didn't |
| 16:56.20 | Gnarfoz | oh wait, imposter |
| 16:56.51 | fisker | :D |
| 16:57.02 | fisker | was i too kind, did that give me away? |
| 16:58.49 | DWSR | [12:58:35] WHO entry for fisker [mikma@reaktio.net]: Channel: #wowuidev, Server: kornbluth.freenode.net, Hops: 0, Flags: H, Away: No, Real name: Mikko Majuri |
| 16:58.51 | DWSR | Not really. |
| 17:00.42 | Kraps | ===fisker <mikma@reaktio.net> âMikko Majuriâ |
| 17:01.22 | Gnarfoz | you're lower case ;) |
| 17:01.45 | Wobin | cogwheel: umbracanis? |
| 17:01.57 | cogwheel | shadowdog |
| 17:02.00 | Wobin | shadow-wolf? >< |
| 17:02.05 | cogwheel | indeed :) |
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| 17:03.01 | Ackis | derp |
| 17:03.13 | Wobin | Barghest was taken? |
| 17:03.43 | Kraps | i read that low level cloaks are long now |
| 17:03.46 | Kraps | in beta |
| 17:03.51 | fisker | oh poop |
| 17:03.55 | Wobin | Longer than your average cloak? |
| 17:04.03 | Fisker | i hate you all, beta beta |
| 17:04.04 | cogwheel | Kraps: more like "not all short" |
| 17:04.16 | Kraps | Wobin: white too |
| 17:04.23 | Wobin | also, is Balefang RPing a worgen |
| 17:04.24 | Wobin | ? |
| 17:04.33 | Wobin | by inserting 'rawr' into conversation? |
| 17:04.47 | Wobin | or is he replying to a toon named Rawr =P |
| 17:04.54 | Kraps | Who Framed Roger Rabbit |
| 17:05.00 | cogwheel | Kraps: first one i got as a drop was long, then i got a quest reward which was waist-length |
| 17:05.32 | Kraps | waist is good, the scarf ones were ugly |
| 17:06.21 | Kraps | or is that the same thing? :/ |
| 17:06.37 | cogwheel | it's not like the cub scout ones from vanilla... |
| 17:06.45 | Wobin | dibdib? |
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| 17:12.42 | mikma | kraps: "are long"? |
| 17:14.31 | Kraps | longer than this for example http://www.wowhead.com/item=11475 |
| 17:18.19 | Kraps | looooooooooooooooool http://beta.rottentomatoes.com/m/harry_potter_and_the_deathly_hallows_part_i/reviews_users.php |
| 17:20.43 | Ackis | https://ihasahotdog.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/08a353fc-09b9-4577-a68c-396e33edf5e9.jpg |
| 17:20.46 | Ackis | DARTH PUPPY |
| 17:20.56 | Gnarfoz | I like Harry Potter, but how does that tomato score compute |
| 17:21.08 | Gnarfoz | is the movie even close to being out, also? |
| 17:21.19 | Kraps | RT is in beta? are they testing a way to make the site faster? |
| 17:21.35 | Kraps | Gnarfoz: those are user reviews XD |
| 17:21.51 | Kraps | erm, "reveiews" |
| 17:21.59 | Gnarfoz | Kraps: I have never (per)used the site, I have no clue how it works or is supposed to work :) |
| 17:23.29 | Kraps | Gnarfoz: its similar to imdb but more content heavy, and much slower than it should be given its size |
| 17:23.38 | cogwheel | O.o |
| 17:23.41 | Gnarfoz | haha |
| 17:23.56 | cogwheel | Create Healthstone Requires: Level 9, Drain Soul |
| 17:24.03 | cogwheel | Drain Soul Requires: Level 10 |
| 17:24.28 | Gnarfoz | since when do spells require other spells |
| 17:24.40 | Gnarfoz | outside of "requires (level -1)" |
| 17:24.54 | Shirik | omg |
| 17:24.55 | Shirik | cogwheel |
| 17:25.09 | Gnarfoz | also, hatin' on no beta |
| 17:25.09 | Shirik | I just spent 10 minutes explaining to someone why they shouldn't use "long float" instead of "double" |
| 17:25.23 | Shirik | "but my compiler supports it" "so what it's not standard" "but it works here" "and nowhere else" |
| 17:25.36 | alestane | I wasn't aware that you could even do that. |
| 17:25.42 | Shirik | according to the standard, you ca't |
| 17:25.43 | Shirik | can't |
| 17:25.57 | alestane | Does their compiler at least consider it a synonym for double? |
| 17:26.05 | Shirik | I don't even understand the purpose of supporting it; it's not like you can do "long T" in templates or something |
| 17:26.07 | Shirik | yes |
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| 17:32.34 | Jamash | wait what |
| 17:32.38 | Jamash | there is no long float |
| 17:34.45 | alestane | Except in this guy's compiler, apparently. |
| 17:35.10 | Jamash | bizarre |
| 17:35.58 | DWSR | cogwheel: Previous spell ranks. |
| 17:36.12 | DWSR | Also, why does create healthstone require drain soul at all in the first place? |
| 17:36.25 | DWSR | Healthstones (and all other warlocky stones) don't require shards in the cata, right? |
| 17:38.03 | Shirik | damn it cogwheel |
| 17:38.08 | Shirik | one of my questions has 9 upvotes |
| 17:38.10 | mikma | dwsr: http://cogwheel.info/upload/files/umadfisker2.jpg |
| 17:38.12 | Shirik | but I got like no rep from it |
| 17:38.19 | Shirik | one of my answers* |
| 17:38.20 | DWSR | mikma: Yeah, I saw. |
| 17:38.28 | cogwheel | you hit the cap already? |
| 17:38.46 | Shirik | well this was an answer from yesterday |
| 17:38.54 | Shirik | WTF |
| 17:38.56 | Shirik | and one of them is 8 |
| 17:39.14 | Shirik | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3177302/is-it-safe-for-multiple-threads-to-call-the-same-function/3177309#3177309 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3176867/what-do-i-do-if-constructor-fails-to-allocate-memory-in-c/3176883#3176883 |
| 17:39.16 | Shirik | fail |
| 17:39.34 | Ackis | Fisker didn't get into the beta? |
| 17:39.40 | cogwheel | what exactly is fail? |
| 17:39.57 | Shirik | that there's like |
| 17:40.04 | Shirik | a total of 10 upvotes there that didn't get counted |
| 17:40.36 | Fisker | Ackis: i will shirik you!!!! |
| 17:41.02 | Ackis | Fisker: I'm serious :P I don't think I got into the beta :P |
| 17:41.20 | Fisker | Ackis: i am going to cogwheel your donkey |
| 17:41.25 | cogwheel | Shirik: the cap is for a day. once the day ends, the cap resets so you can get credit for new upvotes. You don't get credit for old upvotes that happened the previous day after hitting the cap |
| 17:41.41 | cogwheel | ok Fisker i mean mikma |
| 17:41.54 | mikma | cogwheel: shuss |
| 17:42.00 | mikma | i am having too much fun |
| 17:42.32 | amro | shirik is grinding SO? |
| 17:42.33 | Ackis | isn't paying to much attention :P |
| 17:42.36 | cogwheel | Shirik: ima give you a badge |
| 17:42.46 | Ackis | I thought mikma logged out and the real Fisker came back :P |
| 17:42.54 | DWSR | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLsJyfN0ICU |
| 17:43.04 | DWSR | Nope. |
| 17:43.07 | Shirik | amro: I blame cogwheel |
| 17:43.12 | DWSR | Fisker = mikma. |
| 17:43.21 | Shirik | cogwheel: Yeah I know I don't get credit but still |
| 17:43.22 | Shirik | not fair :( |
| 17:44.04 | cogwheel | i blame me too |
| 17:44.27 | mikma | hey, thanks for spoiling me |
| 17:45.51 | Shirik | hugs cogwheel |
| 17:46.45 | alestane | toasts Cairenn. |
| 17:46.54 | Fisker | loves mikma |
| 17:46.58 | Cairenn | hugs alestane |
| 17:47.56 | Cide | aww |
| 17:48.04 | Cide | shirik is beginning his stack overflow career |
| 17:48.16 | Cide | http://www.shiibot.com/ -- how cute |
| 17:48.23 | DWSR | lol |
| 17:50.58 | Ackis | did not get into the beta! |
| 17:51.00 | Ackis | panics |
| 17:51.05 | amro | that's what you get for using PHP |
| 17:51.21 | Shirik | lol Cide |
| 17:51.24 | Shirik | that site has always existed |
| 17:51.35 | Kraps | "We took swift action to fix a cross-site scripting (XSS) vulnerability on youtube.com that was discovered several hours ago. Comments were temporarily hidden by default within an hour, and we released a complete fix for the issue in about two hours. We're continuing to study the vulnerability to help prevent similar issues in the future." |
| 17:51.36 | Shirik | and it works perfectly |
| 17:52.07 | DWSR | http://youtu.be/ZLsJyfN0ICU |
| 17:52.11 | DWSR | YOU ARE A PIRATE! |
| 17:53.14 | Ackis | http://i.imgur.com/7yu2v.jpg |
| 17:54.05 | mikma | ackis has won the internet. |
| 17:54.20 | DWSR | ITS OVER 9000! |
| 17:54.27 | DWSR | /apologize |
| 17:55.06 | Kraps | DWSR: wtf |
| 17:55.17 | DWSR | 43698 > 9000 |
| 17:55.32 | Kraps | pirate |
| 17:55.44 | DWSR | ah. |
| 17:55.55 | DWSR | I had a link to a swf of that. |
| 17:56.05 | DWSR | Except the video was just people dancing around and the words LOL, LIMEWIRE |
| 17:56.13 | DWSR | I'm not sure which was funnier. |
| 17:56.57 | Kraps | i didnt laugh |
| 17:57.05 | Kraps | i wtfed |
| 17:57.17 | Jamash | I lol'ed out loud |
| 17:58.11 | Jamash | irl |
| 17:58.16 | DWSR | [13:57:51] <TheWorstRoboPig>just use 16-bit color depth for desktop to force all effects out <-- in ##windows. |
| 17:58.31 | DWSR | I'm sampliing that in my next DJ mix, tbh. |
| 17:58.45 | Jamash | what the hell, DWSR |
| 17:58.54 | DWSR | the video or the quote? |
| 17:58.57 | Jamash | the quote |
| 17:58.59 | DWSR | Yeah. |
| 17:59.00 | DWSR | Exactly. |
| 18:00.36 | Jamash | mmm, skillups |
| 18:01.04 | Shirik | ok |
| 18:01.09 | Shirik | off to sports authority |
| 18:01.09 | Shirik | bai |
| 18:01.15 | Jamash | ok this is getting creepy; youtube is recommending "Do you want to date my avatar?" for *everything I watch* |
| 18:02.12 | DWSR | http://youtu.be/ZLsJyfN0ICU |
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| 18:02.49 | amro | they've got you pegged, Jamash |
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| 18:07.29 | Ackis | https://cheezfailbooking.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/funny-facebook-twi-vuvuzela.png I wished I thought of that |
| 18:10.51 | DWSR | right? |
| 18:11.01 | DWSR | I think I might bring a Vuvuzela app on my phone and do that. |
| 18:16.14 | mikma | http://cheezfailbooking.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/funny-facebook-stevie-wonde.png |
| 18:21.37 | DWSR | win |
| 18:21.41 | DWSR | or rather fail. |
| 18:21.42 | DWSR | But win |
| 18:23.59 | mikma | fin |
| 18:24.29 | Jamash | failwin |
| 18:24.32 | Jamash | winfail |
| 18:25.32 | Jamash | of course the thing about "do you want to date my avatar" is that felecia day is actually hot |
| 18:26.32 | mikma | http://cheezfailbooking.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/funny-facebook-olive-garden.png |
| 18:27.26 | Jamash | ^ that's awesome |
| 18:27.46 | Jamash | in my family we're all incredibly lazy |
| 18:27.57 | Jamash | if you don't plan your own birthday part you don't get one |
| 18:28.07 | Jamash | s/part/party/ |
| 18:29.27 | Jamash | speaking of which I just got my mom snow leopard for her birthday (which was in april) and babysat it through the install process, which was annoying because it kept powering down the DVD drive every five minutes if I didn't poke the touchpad |
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| 18:35.28 | malreth | http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/licensing/instaloadoverview.mspx |
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| 18:40.05 | Fierceflame | I'm trying to compare the entered gearset to the current gearset, but it doesn't really work, will certainly break somewhere along the line, even though it /should/ work :S Code: http://toptop18.pastey.net/138305/16:17:18:19:20:21:22:23:24:25:26:27:28:29:30:31:32:33 |
| 18:40.19 | Fierceflame | Someone knows how this can be done? :D |
| 18:42.12 | foxlit | the value in that table is not an item id |
| 18:42.41 | foxlit | Rather, it's an item location. |
| 18:43.02 | foxlit | or not, I'm thinking of a different function |
| 18:43.56 | foxlit | what actually happens when you run it, then? |
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| 19:01.58 | Shirik | Kraps, this is sad |
| 19:02.06 | Shirik | the longest discussion thread on the "pending changes" |
| 19:02.11 | Shirik | is about what logo we should assign the user right: |
| 19:02.12 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Reviewing#the_logo |
| 19:06.46 | Jamash | "OK, you're so smart, you tell us what color it should be?" |
| 19:09.31 | Jamash | you should use a picture of this http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/67/Woking_tripod.JPG |
| 19:12.10 | Mr_Rabies | can macros Use specific Item slots? |
| 19:12.54 | Mr_Rabies | like if i want to make a macro that was basically /use [button:2] Trinket Slot2 Number ; Trinket Slot1 Number? |
| 19:12.54 | durcyn | Mr_Rabies: /use # |
| 19:13.00 | Mr_Rabies | it's that simple? |
| 19:13.03 | Mr_Rabies | damn :D |
| 19:13.06 | durcyn | trinkets are 13 and 14 |
| 19:15.38 | Jamash | hmm, how I get arkinventory to make my guild bank look more or less like it does normally (without turning it off entirely for the guild bank) |
| 19:16.10 | *** join/#wowuidev xqo (~xqo@195.131.251.212.customer.cdi.no) |
| 19:17.19 | xqo | hey, I want to hide the new chat-window resizebutton. What event should i listen for to hide it every time my ui loads? I think PLAYER_ENTERING_WORLD is too soon |
| 19:17.33 | cbreak | http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/07/how-even-the-dumbest-russian-spies-outwit-the-nsa.ars |
| 19:18.35 | Jamash | arkinventory is transposing the vertical and horizontal axes of my guild bank |
| 19:21.25 | Shirik | cogwheel |
| 19:21.36 | Shirik | that answer you upvoted gave me a silver badge o.o |
| 19:21.40 | Shirik | ok seriously gotta go now |
| 19:21.42 | cogwheel | i no rite? |
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| 19:23.32 | smcn | is it not possible to create a virtual frame using lua? |
| 19:24.21 | cbreak | originally it was not possible smcn |
| 19:24.35 | cbreak | I thought I read that it was made possible, but I forgot if that was real or not |
| 19:25.03 | smcn | not finding anything on wowprogramming.com :/ |
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| 19:26.40 | MEFISKERMESMASH | RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWR |
| 19:27.05 | Zyn | thou upset |
| 19:27.13 | MEFISKERMESMASH | even more than ever Zyn |
| 19:27.18 | MEFISKERMESMASH | so you know this cool story? |
| 19:27.19 | malreth | NO BETA FOR U |
| 19:27.25 | MEFISKERMESMASH | I actually have a legit copy of Windows right? |
| 19:27.31 | cogwheel | http://cogwheel.info/upload/files/umadfisker2.jpg |
| 19:27.40 | MEFISKERMESMASH | And it's actually a retail(meaning unlimited activations and shit) |
| 19:27.58 | MEFISKERMESMASH | And this is the first time i've reinstalled since i installed Windows 7 when it came out |
| 19:28.02 | Kraps | why cant my dad get the name right? wtf is a Zagway or Sagway? |
| 19:28.02 | cbreak | retail windows does not have unlimited activations |
| 19:28.22 | MEFISKERMESMASH | cbreak you catch my drift |
| 19:28.33 | MEFISKERMESMASH | but after 1 activation it's like "lol u pirate" |
| 19:28.46 | cbreak | get a mac or linux, or even one of the BSDs |
| 19:28.51 | MEFISKERMESMASH | naw |
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| 19:29.03 | cbreak | or call up microsoft and reactivate by phone :) |
| 19:29.16 | cbreak | I recommend recording the call |
| 19:29.20 | MEFISKERMESMASH | yeah because it's totally reasonable that i should call them for every time i reinstall |
| 19:29.34 | Jamash | or call norad and reactivate by icbm to bill gates' house |
| 19:29.36 | cbreak | how often do you reinstall? Every four or five years? |
| 19:29.37 | MEFISKERMESMASH | and i did, it doesn't work, the voice is fucked up metallic and jerky |
| 19:30.00 | MEFISKERMESMASH | when it's nessecary cbreak |
| 19:30.02 | MEFISKERMESMASH | in this case it was |
| 19:30.05 | Jamash | or wait, ballmer is in charge now |
| 19:30.07 | cbreak | most of my computers were installed once, when I set them up first. |
| 19:30.21 | Kraps | Shirik |
| 19:30.33 | MEFISKERMESMASH | yes and i just got significant new hardware = reinstall |
| 19:30.39 | MEFISKERMESMASH | welcome to Windows 101 cbreak |
| 19:30.44 | cbreak | oh, right... have fun :) |
| 19:31.07 | MEFISKERMESMASH | well it kinda worked |
| 19:31.18 | MEFISKERMESMASH | but i had like a constant 50-80% cpu usage on something |
| 19:31.27 | Kraps | MEFISKERMESMASH: your nick sucks |
| 19:31.29 | cbreak | procmon? |
| 19:31.34 | MEFISKERMESMASH | i like it |
| 19:31.56 | Kraps | ofc you do |
| 19:31.58 | MEFISKERMESMASH | cbreak it was in kernel space neither procmon or procexp knows what the fuck goes on there |
| 19:32.11 | cbreak | in that case, blame windows |
| 19:32.16 | cbreak | maybe it was some DRM crap |
| 19:32.26 | cbreak | or a buggy driver |
| 19:32.29 | MEFISKERMESMASH | lol securom |
| 19:32.46 | cbreak | was thinking of HDCP/BluRay stuff |
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| 19:33.08 | MEFISKERMESMASH | maybe it was Windows' DRM informing me that i should reinstall and have my CD-key rendered useless so they can exploit the ignorance of the weak and have them buy another cd-key |
| 19:33.38 | cbreak | is the activation phone line free? |
| 19:33.39 | MEFISKERMESMASH | reminds me of those "free anti-virus" programs you have to pay for in order to remove shit it installed itself |
| 19:33.48 | MEFISKERMESMASH | yeah cbreak |
| 19:34.00 | cbreak | well. third time's the charm :) |
| 19:34.07 | MEFISKERMESMASH | third? |
| 19:34.10 | cogwheel | mikma: give it back... now we have ALLCAPSFISKER imo >< |
| 19:34.22 | MEFISKERMESMASH | i am raging cogwheel |
| 19:34.24 | MEFISKERMESMASH | and with good reason |
| 19:34.30 | MEFISKERMESMASH | this is worse than not being in the cataclysm beta |
| 19:34.39 | mikma | oh neat |
| 19:34.43 | mikma | rage fisker is rage |
| 19:34.44 | cbreak | don't be sad |
| 19:34.49 | cbreak | cataclysm beta is still quite empty |
| 19:34.55 | cbreak | I haven't seen many people on there |
| 19:35.03 | cbreak | (and the mage talents are not far either, so no fun) |
| 19:35.21 | cbreak | I flew through hyajal mountain once though. That zone already did look nice |
| 19:35.58 | cbreak | and it seems that all of azshara is now level 20. |
| 19:36.15 | mikma | cogwheel: if he wants it, come and get it! ;) |
| 19:39.57 | cogwheel | cbreak: everyone's in the gob/worg starter zones... |
| 19:40.02 | Jamash | hm, it looks like arkinventory is displaying the guild bank sideways because the wow api returns guild bank info in column, not row order |
| 19:40.27 | cbreak | Hmm. I did the worgen one a few months ago |
| 19:40.51 | cbreak | fairly cool |
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| 19:43.28 | ragefisker | haha |
| 19:43.30 | ragefisker | fuck off microsoft |
| 19:43.39 | ragefisker | funny how the TOLL FREE number doesn't work |
| 19:43.42 | ragefisker | but the other does |
| 19:43.47 | ragefisker | HOW NEW AND EXCITING |
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| 19:44.12 | Cairenn | fisker, do me a favour please - dial it back some |
| 19:44.14 | cbreak | ... |
| 19:44.28 | cbreak | you should have just used a repeated calling program for the free one |
| 19:44.38 | ragefisker | what would that've done? |
| 19:44.40 | cbreak | don't pay MS for stuff that is RIGHTFULLY YOURS |
| 19:44.41 | Fisker | Cairenn: sorry mistress |
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| 19:45.15 | Jamash | have some antidepressant |
| 19:45.16 | Jamash | s |
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| 19:45.36 | mikma | lol |
| 19:45.40 | mikma | go bitchx |
| 19:45.41 | Jamash | mikma did you just ghost fisker |
| 19:45.48 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/25626458144/talent-quot-choices-quot/ |
| 19:45.53 | Kraps | herpderp |
| 19:45.57 | ragefisker | anyway cbreak |
| 19:45.58 | ragefisker | as i said |
| 19:46.10 | ragefisker | the free line works, it's the line quality that is somehow "bad" |
| 19:46.15 | mikma | jamash: na |
| 19:46.18 | ragefisker | funny how that works |
| 19:46.30 | cbreak | maybe you can get a better quality if you allocate double bandwidth |
| 19:48.00 | Jamash | I love the quest "As the Crow Flies" |
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| 19:48.11 | Fierceflame | Foxlit, when an item is not equipped it'll break immediatly(I think its because nothing is equipped int he slo0t :S) and on my fully geared char it will break on the 4th loop |
| 19:48.26 | Fierceflame | So it's certainly working to some degree |
| 19:48.41 | mikma | its some item that doesnt exist |
| 19:48.43 | mikma | like tabard |
| 19:49.31 | foxlit | So your print message should tell you which slot it doesn't like? |
| 19:49.49 | Fierceflame | Ahhhhhhhhhh |
| 19:49.53 | ragefisker | "Hello this is microsoft, lets say we have some "issues" with our "tools" so will you call our number again so we can get double the money, please?" |
| 19:49.58 | Fierceflame | Gonna try to implement that and see where it fails |
| 19:51.39 | Fierceflame | Wait Ic ant let my func tell that, but I'll maunally have to find out what inventoryid match what slot, sec |
| 19:52.38 | mikma | its tabard |
| 19:52.44 | ragefisker | mikma: |
| 19:52.47 | ragefisker | i'll see you in hell |
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| 19:53.08 | mikma | you are gonna going to have to wait for a long time |
| 19:53.18 | mikma | since i wont be going up or down |
| 19:53.33 | mikma | cogwheel: aint that right? |
| 19:55.00 | Fierceflame | Might be that m,yt abard slot is ignored |
| 19:56.22 | Fierceflame | Nope tabrd is 19 |
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| 19:57.36 | Fisker | 'lo |
| 19:58.26 | Fierceflame | Its the shirtslot |
| 19:58.29 | Fierceflame | Which is ignored |
| 19:58.57 | Fierceflame | So probably its listed as nil in the table and thus it isnt the same as a value, which is equipped |
| 19:59.04 | Fierceflame | Gonna check that and see if I can fix it |
| 19:59.18 | Fierceflame | Gonna dig into the values both things return |
| 20:00.19 | Fierceflame | Okay unignoring it works, gonna try to fix it so ignoring and not equipping stuff can be done to |
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| 20:01.23 | Lunessa | station |
| 20:01.35 | Fisker | Lunessa: i love you! |
| 20:02.06 | Lunessa | This your new thing? You love everyone? |
| 20:02.16 | Fisker | yes, you especially! |
| 20:02.32 | Lunessa | makes sweet, sweet man-love to Fisker |
| 20:02.51 | mikma | dirty boy |
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| 20:04.37 | |Jelly| | Woah Lunessa. /jealous |
| 20:04.51 | Lunessa | Drive down. *eyebrow waggle* |
| 20:04.59 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 20:05.00 | Jamash | kinky |
| 20:05.08 | |Jelly| | We might be going to Fort Hood sometime to get a puppy. |
| 20:05.18 | Jamash | what kind of puppy? |
| 20:05.22 | Fisker | i realized that beta sucks, all i need is man-love |
| 20:05.23 | |Jelly| | cairn terrier |
| 20:05.31 | Cairenn | (pretends to be the guys) *Gets videocamera* |
| 20:06.11 | zenzelezz | :-o |
| 20:06.23 | Fisker | come on in the train, and ride it |
| 20:06.45 | Fisker | choo choo |
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| 20:06.59 | Lunessa | Jelly - that's a long drive. |
| 20:07.09 | Lunessa | brb, checking Win7 install in other room |
| 20:07.25 | |Jelly| | Meh, couple hours. |
| 20:07.37 | Lunessa | Yeah |
| 20:07.46 | |Jelly| | You could always meet us. Just saying. |
| 20:08.02 | |Jelly| | It's almost [read: not even close] half way! |
| 20:08.07 | Lunessa | Bricked my old CPU cooler and CPU - been building a new box since yesterday. |
| 20:08.08 | Fisker | i also love microsoft |
| 20:09.50 | Lunessa | Meh. I needed a new computer pretty badly. I just didn't want to spend the money right /now/. |
| 20:10.09 | |Jelly| | Actually ... it's a lot closer to half way than I thought. lol |
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| 20:10.19 | Fisker | |Jelly|: can you meet me halfway, right up the borderline |
| 20:10.20 | suspciouslycalmf | close enough |
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| 20:10.44 | Fisker | whee! |
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| 20:11.25 | foxlit | http://us.blizzard.com/store/details.xml?id=1100001062 |
| 20:11.39 | foxlit | madness has come to this world. |
| 20:11.43 | nevcairiel | wth, lol |
| 20:11.57 | suspciouslycalmf | i'd tap that |
| 20:12.02 | nevcairiel | i mean, the idea isnt bad |
| 20:12.02 | zenzelezz | clearly that should be bound to your Jump key |
| 20:12.04 | suspciouslycalmf | lold that it's sold out though |
| 20:12.08 | suspciouslycalmf | they must only have carried one |
| 20:12.21 | Lunessa | LOL |
| 20:12.27 | |Jelly| | . . . . . . . |
| 20:12.37 | Lunessa | One of our ret paladins jokes about just using a foot-pedal |
| 20:12.59 | Fisker | anyway |
| 20:13.02 | Fisker | i sure showed them |
| 20:13.27 | Fisker | atleast until i see my phone bill having paid off several copies of Windows just because the toll-free number didn't work as it should |
| 20:13.47 | DWSR | Hey. |
| 20:13.59 | Fisker | hey DWSR |
| 20:14.23 | DWSR | Hey fisker |
| 20:14.52 | DWSR | Lunessa: you can use 2 foot pedals to be a paladin. |
| 20:14.59 | DWSR | Holy also requires a mouse. |
| 20:15.38 | DWSR | My warrior tank in a previous guild used them for turning. |
| 20:16.48 | Fisker | i wonder what happened to that mikma guy |
| 20:17.52 | DWSR | He got into the beta. |
| 20:18.23 | |Jelly| | :| |
| 20:18.28 | mikma | =D |
| 20:18.28 | |Jelly| | H8 |
| 20:18.35 | Fisker | :o |
| 20:18.59 | DWSR | Lol |
| 20:18.59 | mikma | sleepytime |
| 20:19.24 | DWSR | I wish i was in the beta, but alas, I'll have to wait. |
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| 20:27.12 | Fierceflame | Okay fixed it |
| 20:28.01 | Fierceflame | The equipmentmanager function returns 1 if ignored and 0 when not equipped, while the other funtions gives current itemID even when ignored and nil when nothing in it |
| 20:28.09 | Fierceflame | Made a workaround for that |
| 20:28.33 | Fierceflame | Now gonna test everything and see if I can find anymore error :D |
| 20:30.33 | DWSR | You are a pirate! |
| 20:30.52 | Fierceflame | Why? xD |
| 20:31.52 | DWSR | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLsJyfN0ICU&feature=youtube_gdata |
| 20:32.04 | DWSR | Because lazy town said so |
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| 20:36.16 | malreth | DWSR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQp5l4-sfFA <-- a better Lazy Town video (nsfw audio) |
| 20:38.14 | DWSR | Favorited. |
| 20:38.17 | DWSR | Fantastic |
| 20:40.01 | DWSR | I just tweeted deadmau5 to make a mix of you are a pirate. |
| 20:40.09 | DWSR | Here's hoping. |
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| 20:45.55 | fiphi | Hey folks, I've got some trouble with my WoWLua editor. It won't run my script. |
| 20:45.57 | cogwheel | http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2009/07/13/firefox-add-ons-in-real-life/ |
| 20:46.08 | fiphi | If there's aynone here using that editor, heh. :) |
| 20:46.22 | cogwheel | you can post the script on pastey.net |
| 20:46.37 | fiphi | Nah, it's not the code in itself, it's the functionality of WoWlua. |
| 20:46.46 | fiphi | I just wrote a dummy variable. It won't run it. |
| 20:47.19 | cogwheel | not sure what you mean by that... |
| 20:47.29 | fiphi | WoWLua is an ingame editor. |
| 20:47.42 | cogwheel | right but what do you mean you wrote a dummy variable it won't run it... |
| 20:47.57 | fiphi | Well, I wrote a function in the upper half, ran the script and then tried to call the function in the lower half. |
| 20:48.04 | fiphi | But it won't work, it's not running the script. |
| 20:48.14 | fiphi | So now I just declared some variable, and tried to print it. |
| 20:48.17 | fiphi | Same story. |
| 20:48.57 | Kraps | DWSR: 11 million views, and pedo bait http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wos2jhKhiCQ&NR=1 |
| 20:49.50 | Kraps | http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2010/07/05/the-end-of-the-world-is-near-farmville-groceries/ |
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| 20:51.42 | cogwheel | fiphi: try something other than print |
| 20:51.50 | fiphi | I tried calling a function. |
| 20:51.57 | fiphi | The function won't print it's content. |
| 20:52.06 | fiphi | its', even |
| 20:52.10 | cogwheel | other than print... |
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| 20:52.20 | fiphi | Well, how would I get a result in the lower half without print? |
| 20:52.39 | cbreak | side effects |
| 20:52.40 | cogwheel | that's what i'm saying... try using something that doesn't show a result down there. |
| 20:52.58 | fiphi | Well, if I use something that doesn't show a result - what's the point? Eh, I'm not following. :) |
| 20:53.11 | cbreak | there are countless ways to get information out of the system |
| 20:53.14 | cogwheel | to see if it's actually not running your script or if it's print that's bugged |
| 20:53.19 | malreth | fiphi: do you have all of your other addons disabled? |
| 20:53.23 | fiphi | Yes. |
| 20:53.29 | cbreak | you can play a sound based on the contents of a variable. you can write it somewhere. |
| 20:53.29 | fiphi | And it's worked earlier, before the patch. |
| 20:53.37 | cbreak | you can show or hide things based on it |
| 20:53.54 | cogwheel | fiphi: try running a script that hides a frame or plays a sound |
| 20:53.55 | cbreak | you can even cause an endless loop and crash wow in certain conditions which you want to detect |
| 20:53.56 | fiphi | It's not complex code; that I write out of game. I just wanted to run an example from the book, really simple function. |
| 20:54.16 | fiphi | And instead of creating a .lua file and loading it, I just wanted to scribble it in WoWlua to run it. |
| 20:54.50 | cbreak | show the code |
| 20:54.51 | cogwheel | jnwhiteh: halp |
| 20:54.56 | fiphi | cogwheel: He doesn |
| 20:55.00 | fiphi | 't seem to respond. :p |
| 20:55.41 | cogwheel | he's a busy man :P |
| 20:55.46 | fiphi | :) |
| 20:56.17 | fiphi | cbreak: It's not a code error. It's just scribble code. |
| 20:57.38 | malreth | fiphi: have you tried printing the output elsewhere, like to the chat frame or to a tekdebug window? |
| 20:57.47 | cogwheel | we still haven't established whether it's not running your code or whether something else is broken |
| 20:57.53 | fiphi | It should be in the chat frame per standard. |
| 20:59.15 | malreth | fiphi: well then, either WoWLua is broken or your code has a bug in it. |
| 20:59.25 | malreth | which do you think is more likely? |
| 20:59.26 | fiphi | There's nothing wrong with the code. |
| 20:59.35 | cbreak | if you want to write code directly in wow |
| 20:59.38 | cbreak | just use /script |
| 20:59.46 | cbreak | you can program in the chat entry box :) |
| 20:59.52 | fiphi | Hah, cool. :) |
| 21:00.03 | cbreak | I use TinyPad sometimes though. |
| 21:00.08 | fiphi | Well, I'm taking a uni course and we're using WoWlua. |
| 21:00.13 | fiphi | As well as external editors. |
| 21:00.19 | cogwheel | O.O |
| 21:00.20 | fiphi | But in-game WoWlua, since it comes with the book. |
| 21:00.27 | cogwheel | what uni? |
| 21:00.37 | fiphi | So when I do actual assignments, I write them in Notepad++ |
| 21:00.43 | cbreak | must be a low level uni |
| 21:00.48 | fiphi | But this was a 4-5 row example from the book, so no, not anything wrong with the code. |
| 21:00.54 | fiphi | Ptja, regular course. |
| 21:00.58 | cbreak | we had to use the university own Operating System sometimes :( |
| 21:01.00 | cbreak | *cry* |
| 21:01.14 | cbreak | nothing as simple as lua |
| 21:01.29 | cbreak | Bluebottle Oberon! *shiver* |
| 21:01.36 | fiphi | O_o |
| 21:04.05 | Jamash | Hack is pretty awesome |
| 21:04.18 | fiphi | Pwah, I guess I won't write code directly into the editor at all. |
| 21:05.43 | fiphi | cbreak: When loading an external .lua file and calling the function that among things prints stuff - in the WoWlua editor - it works like a charm. What I don't get is why it won't call the function just as nicely if I write the actual code in the code part of the editor. |
| 21:06.33 | malreth | fiphi: did you click the run script button in the WoWLua editor? |
| 21:06.38 | fiphi | Yes. |
| 21:06.56 | cbreak | maybe it does something strange with the environment |
| 21:07.03 | cbreak | I have not used that thing myself |
| 21:07.34 | malreth | can you take a screenshot to show it not working right? |
| 21:07.38 | fiphi | Sure, sec. |
| 21:08.53 | fiphi | Eeeheeeheeh. |
| 21:08.53 | Maldivia | Esamynn: thanks for the help :P |
| 21:09.04 | fiphi | Now the function works. |
| 21:09.08 | fiphi | But not printing the variable. |
| 21:09.18 | fiphi | I'm going crazy. |
| 21:09.56 | Esamynn | Maldivia: np |
| 21:10.41 | fiphi | Ahmm. |
| 21:11.02 | malreth | fiphi: i've given up trying to understand the problem. |
| 21:11.05 | fiphi | malreth: I think I understand why it behaves like it does. Apparently I can only call functions, or print random texts in the lower half. |
| 21:11.14 | fiphi | I can't print variables from the upper half. |
| 21:11.32 | Kraps | man i need to start watching buffy |
| 21:11.38 | Maldivia | Esamynn: found out that a party actually wasn't needed, just a bug in my script :) |
| 21:11.44 | Esamynn | heh |
| 21:13.18 | alestane | Well, I don't think you can just type "foo" in the bottom half to have it print the value of foo, fiphi. |
| 21:13.28 | fiphi | That's not what I did either. |
| 21:13.35 | alestane | You'd have to enter the statement "print(foo)" |
| 21:13.39 | fiphi | ... I did. :) |
| 21:13.40 | fiphi | It didn't work. |
| 21:13.51 | malreth | was foo declared local? |
| 21:13.53 | fiphi | I could however call a function, in which it printed "foo" if you will. And then it worked. |
| 21:14.09 | fiphi | Bah. Yes, it was. |
| 21:14.13 | malreth | well then |
| 21:14.14 | alestane | Also, yes, anything local to the upper pane will be out of scope in the lower one. |
| 21:14.15 | fiphi | :) |
| 21:14.21 | malreth | you see why we wanted you to post the code |
| 21:14.32 | fiphi | malreth: Heh, I do now. Sorry for being troublesome. |
| 21:14.33 | malreth | we can play 20 questions, or we can see the answer |
| 21:14.57 | malreth | as punishment, you must kiss purl |
| 21:15.02 | fiphi | I bet he's cute. |
| 21:15.07 | fiphi | purl: Are you? |
| 21:15.08 | purl | yes |
| 21:15.12 | fiphi | Awesome. I'm game. |
| 21:15.18 | malreth | purl, kiss fiphi |
| 21:15.19 | purl | ACTION forces fiphi to give Olison a big kiss on the forehead |
| 21:15.26 | malreth | bad bot! |
| 21:15.27 | fiphi | I bet he's cute as well. |
| 21:15.41 | fiphi | pats purl |
| 21:15.48 | fiphi | Seems well-behaved, if anything. |
| 21:15.49 | fiphi | :p |
| 21:16.31 | malreth | you can't ever show the bots love... once you do, they get all curious about human emotions and then they go nutzo |
| 21:16.38 | A-KO | god it's hot out right now |
| 21:16.52 | A-KO | 37C |
| 21:17.00 | fiphi | I had some megaHALs a few years ago. Maybe time to wake them up. |
| 21:17.02 | A-KO | tomorrow, 39C :P probably will break 40 tomorrow |
| 21:17.13 | malreth | A-KO BUT IT CANT BE GLOBAL WARMING IF ITS SNOWING IN THE WINTER |
| 21:17.14 | fiphi | It's 21C here, and 11PM. |
| 21:17.18 | A-KO | lol malreth |
| 21:17.26 | A-KO | fiphi: it was already 35C at 11AM this morning :P |
| 21:17.33 | fiphi | Hah, damn. Where is that? |
| 21:17.57 | malreth | it's only 33C here in Texas |
| 21:17.59 | A-KO | Baltimore, MD, USA |
| 21:18.05 | A-KO | !w 21202 |
| 21:18.11 | A-KO | hmmm, is there a weather bot... |
| 21:18.31 | fiphi | What time is it where you're at? Shouldn't be too much of a difference if I remember my time zones correctly... |
| 21:18.47 | A-KO | 5:18PM (17:18) :P |
| 21:18.59 | A-KO | Texas is 1 or 2 hours behind :P |
| 21:18.59 | fiphi | Haha, I do know of AM/PM, even if I don't approve of it... :p |
| 21:19.12 | A-KO | I use both interchangeably, lol |
| 21:19.17 | A-KO | just like F/C |
| 21:19.34 | A-KO | people around here find it *really* weird... |
| 21:19.36 | fiphi | Ah, I knew that conversion when I was younger as well. |
| 21:19.45 | fiphi | Programmed a small converter in high school I think. Hmm. |
| 21:19.48 | A-KO | nice |
| 21:20.00 | A-KO | I stopped "converting" F and C a few years back |
| 21:20.08 | A-KO | now I just know "wow that's hot" |
| 21:20.16 | A-KO | and "wow that feels good" |
| 21:20.17 | A-KO | lol |
| 21:20.22 | fiphi | Haha. |
| 21:20.31 | A-KO | took a while though |
| 21:20.37 | A-KO | I used to use reference points... |
| 21:20.40 | fiphi | I never get used to watching American weather charts with so large numbers; just feels weird. |
| 21:21.01 | fiphi | Hey, another priest. Here, priestie... |
| 21:21.15 | malreth | fiphi: it makes sense... think of it like a scale of 1 to 100. |
| 21:21.32 | malreth | one end is uncomfortably cold, the other is uncomfortably hot |
| 21:21.37 | fiphi | Heh. |
| 21:21.48 | fiphi | That sounds like Celsius, on the top of my head. |
| 21:21.56 | fiphi | Although 100 would be excruciating. |
| 21:21.59 | A-KO | lol |
| 21:22.00 | fiphi | Since that's boiling water. |
| 21:22.13 | fiphi | And 1... January. |
| 21:24.22 | malreth | for C, i just remember that 40 is damn hot, 37 is body temp, and 24 is comfortable |
| 21:24.30 | fiphi | That's about right. |
| 21:24.48 | fiphi | It's pending between 20 and 30 right now, warmest point of the year. |
| 21:24.51 | fiphi | A bit sticky. |
| 21:27.07 | fiphi | http://www.break.com/index/microsoft-vs-java-trailer.html |
| 21:27.07 | fiphi | Haha. |
| 21:27.22 | krka | around 20 is comfortable, 24 is too hot |
| 21:28.01 | fiphi | krka: Bah, "after this winter we shan't complain..." :p |
| 21:29.22 | malreth | krka: i don't like it if it's too cold... the chicks wear less clothing as temps approach 80-90F |
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| 21:29.56 | fiphi | God damnit, another priest. |
| 21:33.13 | malreth | krka: and when the summer temps are routinely above 36C for weeks on end, 24C is plenty comfortable |
| 21:37.46 | foxlit | fiphi: Hm, that's about a week old and in crappier quality. Damn break.com |
| 21:37.57 | fiphi | Heh. |
| 21:38.07 | fiphi | I just saw it, but I've noticed it being linked a lot the past weeks. |
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| 21:39.12 | Fierceflame | Are thwere big new things in the V2 wowprogramming book? |
| 21:39.42 | fiphi | I haven't seen V1, so beats me. Nothing about it on the site? |
| 21:39.43 | Kraps | i got a 10 day invitation to AoC |
| 21:40.10 | Fierceflame | I've got V1 :P |
| 21:40.18 | Fierceflame | Wanna see if it's worth getting V2 :S |
| 21:40.25 | Kraps | To celebrate the launch of Rise of the Godslayer |
| 21:40.38 | fiphi | Fierceflame: We can go through the index some other night if you haven't found another solution. :P |
| 21:40.49 | Fierceflame | xD |
| 21:41.06 | Fierceflame | I was wondering if it's mroe then an updated reference thats also on the site |
| 21:41.39 | fiphi | Well, I can gladly go through it with you. :p |
| 21:41.54 | fiphi | Although there should be some information about it somewhere, one can think. |
| 21:42.17 | Fierceflame | Better way: Wait till cog or Shirik comes on :P |
| 21:42.27 | fiphi | :p |
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| 21:50.53 | fiphi | Blah, that's all the table sorting I can take for one inght. |
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| 21:55.58 | Kraps | http://www.box.net/shared/g40kv7tt8y |
| 21:56.19 | Fierceflame | fiphi, youre coding stuff or reading the book? |
| 21:56.24 | fiphi | Both. |
| 21:56.44 | Fierceflame | HINT: skip the advanced stuff till you actually need it :P |
| 21:56.54 | Fierceflame | Interesting, but kidna hard to understand :P |
| 21:57.40 | fiphi | I'm not at the advanced stuff. |
| 21:57.51 | Fierceflame | when secure templates and taint get in the mix :P |
| 21:58.24 | Fierceflame | What kind of stuff are you creating? |
| 21:58.59 | fiphi | Well, the course started only a few weeks ago so it's just assignments to practice what we read in the current chapters. |
| 21:59.08 | fiphi | And in the end of August we'll do a project. |
| 21:59.13 | fiphi | An addon in full. |
| 21:59.30 | Fierceflame | You're doing a course in addon programming? Oo |
| 21:59.44 | fiphi | This week's assignment - or last week's really - is a more basic version of BagBuddy, of sorts. |
| 21:59.47 | fiphi | Yeah. |
| 22:00.08 | Fierceflame | Coowl |
| 22:00.24 | Fierceflame | I just bought the book and trying to create some basic stuff for myself xD |
| 22:00.38 | fiphi | :) |
| 22:01.03 | fiphi | We're not having any assignments during July so my plan is to follow the book and do the exercises along the way. :p |
| 22:01.11 | Fierceflame | Polishing my first, completed addon now :D |
| 22:01.12 | Spejnar | fiphi: cant understand why we dont |
| 22:01.29 | fiphi | Spejnar: Huh? |
| 22:01.39 | fiphi | Fierceflame: Oh? How much of the book have you consumed yet? :) |
| 22:01.48 | fiphi | Spejnar: And lol, oh, now I get it. Taking the course? |
| 22:01.54 | Spejnar | ye |
| 22:01.57 | fiphi | Haha, hi there. |
| 22:02.02 | fiphi | I sort of get why we don't. |
| 22:02.08 | fiphi | But it's... messier for the students. |
| 22:02.24 | fiphi | Spejnar: Live in Umeå? |
| 22:03.07 | Spejnar | nope |
| 22:03.13 | fiphi | Alright. |
| 22:04.02 | Fierceflame | fiphi: Kinda everything, but if I understood everything is another question :P I discovered a lot while coding bits and pieces of forever unfinished addons, rewriting em etc. Took a few monthlong break, when something in the game annoyed me and I was bored, so I created this addon |
| 22:04.11 | Fierceflame | Practice is the best :D |
| 22:04.28 | fiphi | Nice. :) |
| 22:04.32 | fiphi | And you had v1, right? |
| 22:04.37 | Fierceflame | Yep |
| 22:05.09 | fiphi | Killing deers, ladida. |
| 22:05.36 | Fierceflame | I'll throw you a link to the addon when I polished it :D |
| 22:05.50 | fiphi | Do it. :) |
| 22:05.54 | Fierceflame | will probably completely finish it tomorrow |
| 22:06.19 | fiphi | What kind is it? |
| 22:06.42 | ScytheBlade1 | so despite MS putting such a heavy emphasis on .net, they didn't make pretty much any .net interfaces to the new shell features in win7 |
| 22:07.01 | Fierceflame | All functions work now, still want to add a namespace table, test something about tables inside tables, remove all error/test messages and make it betetr to read/more functional |
| 22:07.26 | Fierceflame | An addont aht enables the PvP flag :P |
| 22:07.39 | fiphi | Ah, I love the leveling rate at this low level... |
| 22:07.50 | fiphi | Fierceflame: Isn't that only writing /pvp, on pve servers? :p |
| 22:07.58 | Fierceflame | Made a basic one in 7 lines, now some with usefull options with about 120 lines xD |
| 22:08.30 | Fierceflame | It annoyed me that PvP flag will be disabled whene ntering dungeons, and not eb reanabled |
| 22:08.35 | fiphi | Spejnar: Did assign. 4? |
| 22:08.37 | Fierceflame | So I amde an addon that deos that |
| 22:08.43 | Fierceflame | Because im lazy |
| 22:09.06 | Fierceflame | Current version enables pvp in certain spec and gear |
| 22:09.27 | Spejnar | fiphi: aye |
| 22:09.41 | fiphi | Spejnar: How was it? |
| 22:09.54 | Spejnar | cake |
| 22:10.00 | fiphi | Heh. Alright. |
| 22:10.05 | Spejnar | my biggest problem was that something killed my characters |
| 22:10.09 | fiphi | Hah, what? |
| 22:10.15 | Ackis | someone buy this for me: http://amzn.to/blqLt6 |
| 22:10.21 | Spejnar | infinite loop in blizzard_combatlog |
| 22:10.27 | Spejnar | had to delete WTF to be able to play em again |
| 22:10.31 | fiphi | How did that kill the character? |
| 22:10.38 | Spejnar | it was unusable |
| 22:10.40 | Spejnar | hence killed |
| 22:10.42 | fiphi | ah. |
| 22:10.47 | fiphi | Even if you restarted? |
| 22:10.49 | A-KO | you know |
| 22:10.54 | Spejnar | yup |
| 22:10.56 | A-KO | the people that staff Quakecon are extreme nazis :( |
| 22:10.56 | fiphi | Oh. |
| 22:11.00 | Spejnar | it was probably some saved vars |
| 22:11.05 | Spejnar | so? |
| 22:11.06 | fiphi | I'm leveling my code char now so I hope it won't bug... |
| 22:11.06 | A-KO | they're so full of themselves it's rather sickening |
| 22:12.18 | fiphi | Spejnar: So where do you live? |
| 22:12.38 | Fierceflame | I jhust got a lvl 1 coding gnome :D |
| 22:12.52 | foxlit | Ackis: 2.5 stars, though? |
| 22:13.36 | Ackis | foxlit: it's cheap and there are few strategy games on the 360 :( |
| 22:13.36 | fiphi | Fierceflame: :) I have a draenei, but I started playing it since I want to level a draenei so... |
| 22:13.48 | fiphi | She just turned 7. :') |
| 22:14.12 | eidolarr | man mass effect 2 was a let down |
| 22:14.33 | eidolarr | totally linear, no plot twists, only like 3 main quests |
| 22:15.28 | foxlit | not unfun, though. |
| 22:16.09 | Fierceflame | fiphi: :D Im trying to keep my code gnome lvl one at all costs xD Can travekl with it to much opr it will ding xD |
| 22:16.22 | eidolarr | yeah the combat was neat, although by the end i couldn't even be bothered to finish the loyalty quests, too repetitive |
| 22:16.22 | fiphi | Fierceflame: lol, why that fixation? :P |
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| 22:16.27 | fiphi | And aw, dinging by exploring rocks. |
| 22:16.39 | foxlit | you could always disable experience gain |
| 22:16.47 | eidolarr | it's interesting to compare the way that RPGs are approaching the RPG/shooter hybrid vs how shooters are |
| 22:16.58 | Fierceflame | That cost heaps of gold? |
| 22:17.11 | Fierceflame | And fiphi, becasue it's fun :P |
| 22:17.16 | fiphi | :D |
| 22:17.20 | foxlit | a trivial amount if you've got a level 61+ character |
| 22:17.29 | Fierceflame | How much? :S |
| 22:17.47 | eidolarr | 10? |
| 22:17.47 | foxlit | 10 or 15 or something in that leageu |
| 22:18.04 | foxlit | 10. |
| 22:18.05 | fiphi | I can't send money to mine since I chose the other faction for it. :p |
| 22:18.22 | eidolarr | ME2 makes dragon age look like fallout though |
| 22:18.36 | eidolarr | i'd rather it be half the length and twice the diverging choices |
| 22:18.43 | Fierceflame | Coowl will dot hat then :D |
| 22:18.52 | fiphi | Woohoo, 8. |
| 22:20.11 | eidolarr | when I was younger I would get so frustrated wehn games were like like 10-15 hours long, these days it seems like time is enough of a commodity that i prefer it condensed |
| 22:21.16 | A-KO | eidolarr: I just assume it's more of my ADD than anything at this point |
| 22:21.39 | A-KO | as a little kid I could sit there for 8 hoursp laying a video game if I wanted |
| 22:21.42 | A-KO | now I kind of don't want to |
| 22:21.55 | eidolarr | I thought the same thing, I couldn't imagine playing through like final fantasy 7 again |
| 22:22.13 | eidolarr | but on further inspection, i think there's somethnig to be said for short games with high quality throughout |
| 22:22.38 | A-KO | there's also something to be said about games that really flesh out another world :P |
| 22:22.52 | A-KO | perhaps if they broke them up into trilogies or something (like movies)--instead |
| 22:23.07 | eidolarr | well that's what they're doing with mass effect |
| 22:23.08 | A-KO | I still need to finish FF13 |
| 22:23.12 | A-KO | it's on my list of things to do |
| 22:23.17 | eidolarr | i wonder how many plaeyrs actually read through all those codexes they give you |
| 22:23.24 | A-KO | I've got a lot of games on my list of things to do |
| 22:23.38 | A-KO | eidolarr: probably not very many, which is why I think something like TOR is going to fail miserably with all the work they're putting in :P |
| 22:23.52 | eidolarr | same, i basically sorted them by shortness and am trying to work through it |
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| 22:24.11 | A-KO | as much as I love the story in WoW, the reality is that most people simply don't actually care to read quests |
| 22:24.21 | eidolarr | I don't think any MMO stands a chance against WoW by imitating it, they need to do something much more progressive |
| 22:24.23 | A-KO | it's like "oh another KILL 20 ANIMALS quest" |
| 22:24.43 | eidolarr | yeah I used to read the quests, it was pretty atmospheric |
| 22:24.43 | A-KO | nah, I think a WoW imitation + improvement will be the way to go |
| 22:24.44 | A-KO | honestly |
| 22:24.47 | eidolarr | idk they lost me in outland, too spotty |
| 22:24.56 | A-KO | I think the next MMO that will topple WoW will probably not be a singular game |
| 22:25.00 | A-KO | and will likely be a console thing |
| 22:25.05 | eidolarr | I really don't think anyone is going to be able to launch a game that is WoW + improvement |
| 22:25.40 | eidolarr | The WoW team has figured out a lot of the intricacies of the genre, I can't see any studio beating it on their first try |
| 22:25.40 | A-KO | you figure, with the mobile platforms and mobile internet really picking up--could you imagine an MMO game you could play from a console, but do side missions and side quests ion your mobile phone? etc. Think of it like the mobile armory but on steroids |
| 22:25.45 | eidolarr | and if they don't, they won't survive |
| 22:26.00 | A-KO | yeah, they have |
| 22:26.07 | eidolarr | yeah that could be interesting |
| 22:26.17 | A-KO | That's honestly going to be the "game" that beats WoW tbh |
| 22:26.31 | A-KO | something that involves your everyday life |
| 22:26.32 | eidolarr | Farmville 2012 |
| 22:27.16 | eidolarr | idk a game that decoupled leveling and grinding might stand a chance, but I think WoW has that type of MMO cornered pretty hard |
| 22:27.18 | A-KO | that said, yeah, the designers of WoW have definitely learned the intricacies of making a good MMORPG game, and they have had so much time to perfect it, little things that so many people don't notice, but it keeps them playing |
| 22:27.20 | eidolarr | and they're working on a new MMO too? |
| 22:27.22 | A-KO | shit like quest flow |
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| 22:27.43 | eidolarr | yeah, or even the balance of casual vs hardcore |
| 22:27.47 | A-KO | Blizzard's quest flow, quest movement, breadcrumb type questing, quest pacing |
| 22:27.57 | A-KO | little things like that, that nobody actually cares about, but would annoy them otherwise |
| 22:28.07 | A-KO | they can't tell you why they like it |
| 22:28.08 | A-KO | they just do |
| 22:28.21 | A-KO | you know, then you get those MMOs that have like, "grind on 5,000,000 of these for a day, and stay in this one zone" |
| 22:28.28 | eidolarr | I remember when WoW first came out and it was dominated by stale ideas like "good items shuold have 0.01% drop rates and require 12hr/day schedules" |
| 22:28.28 | A-KO | Blizzard's zone variety helps change the scenery a bit |
| 22:28.34 | eidolarr | yeah definitely |
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| 22:29.22 | A-KO | I still think a lot of the current "raiding problems" though are caused more by people than Blizzard itself |
| 22:29.25 | A-KO | though |
| 22:29.37 | A-KO | it didn't help that Blizzard "priced" items to be "you run the maximum amount of content every week" |
| 22:29.41 | A-KO | that was just bad form on their part |
| 22:29.46 | A-KO | and amazing that they even let that through |
| 22:29.46 | eidolarr | well, on the other hand, the logistics of a 40 man raid were crazy |
| 22:29.51 | Gnarfoz | it was neither 0.01% drop rates nor 12hr/day schedules; you like hyperbole apparently |
| 22:29.52 | eidolarr | and the grinding for mats, and the repair bills |
| 22:30.23 | Gnarfoz | (or were in school at that time and actually threw that much time at it, because you had it available ;p) |
| 22:30.25 | A-KO | see, I kind of liked those ideas--in fact eidolarr, I'd say the griding mats and the repair bills helped break the monotany a bit....I mean, we didn't get half the raid zones we get these days in the same timeframe |
| 22:30.35 | A-KO | and yet there is a substantial amount of people that "miss the BWL days" |
| 22:30.40 | A-KO | and AQ and those really stick in peoples' minds |
| 22:30.44 | eidolarr | Gnarfoz: ok, 0.1% and 12hr/day |
| 22:30.58 | Gnarfoz | not true, either, but do keep on preaching |
| 22:31.00 | A-KO | now it's like "ugh, time to go farm XYZ boss" |
| 22:31.09 | A-KO | nah, you didn't have to raid 12 hours/day |
| 22:31.11 | A-KO | people just did it |
| 22:31.17 | eidolarr | Gnarfoz: ironfoe, quel'serrar, etc |
| 22:31.20 | A-KO | nothing in the raid system forced you to that considering you had 7 days to do it |
| 22:31.26 | A-KO | eidolarr: you didn't *have* to grind those |
| 22:31.28 | A-KO | people did that by choice |
| 22:31.29 | eidolarr | Gnarfoz: HWL grind was well in excess of 12hr/day |
| 22:31.36 | Gnarfoz | quel'serrar didn't take that much time, and Ironfoe is a random drop, blah? |
| 22:31.36 | eidolarr | no, but they were the best |
| 22:31.47 | eidolarr | ironfoe is a 0.1% drop from the last boss of BRD |
| 22:31.48 | A-KO | quel'serrar didn't take that much time, you could buy the book in the AH |
| 22:31.54 | Gnarfoz | HWL was not necessary, just for people with too much time, and yes, the honor system was broken in that regard. |
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| 22:32.08 | eidolarr | quel'serrar's book is a 0.1% drop from an only occasionally spawning book in DM, I tried grinding that shit so hard |
| 22:32.17 | A-KO | or you could have saved the gold and bought the book |
| 22:32.22 | Gnarfoz | eidolarr: so you went from "an epic rare drop" to "good items" (in reverse) |
| 22:32.37 | eidolarr | ok, "the best" |
| 22:32.52 | eidolarr | Quel'serrar was the best tanking, HWL was the best PvP |
| 22:33.07 | Gnarfoz | TF was the best tanking ;) |
| 22:33.09 | Xyphoid | there's no way you'd have a sword named quel'something dropping from a really rare item these days |
| 22:33.15 | A-KO | if anything the mistake Blizzard made with WOTLK is the fact that they priced items as if you ran a full 25 zone, a full 10 zone, the WG 25/10, and did every raid |
| 22:33.18 | A-KO | and every 5 man |
| 22:33.20 | A-KO | every day |
| 22:33.20 | Xyphoid | blizzard learned from that |
| 22:33.29 | Gnarfoz | anyway, not going to argue with revisionists ;P |
| 22:33.39 | A-KO | Quel'Serrar wasn't that bad |
| 22:33.40 | A-KO | seriously |
| 22:33.47 | A-KO | MOST tanks had them |
| 22:33.48 | A-KO | period |
| 22:33.54 | A-KO | it was pretty fucking common :P |
| 22:33.59 | Gnarfoz | maybe you did play 12 hours a day back then and felt that it was a drag, but then I'd wonder what would compel you to do that :P |
| 22:34.07 | eidolarr | TF was the best tanking, true, but you had to have a whole guild playing for you |
| 22:34.14 | A-KO | nothing wrong with that either eidolarr |
| 22:34.16 | eidolarr | or how about uhh, what was that cenarion circle trinket with the +280 AP on use |
| 22:34.33 | eidolarr | earthfury? |
| 22:34.43 | Gnarfoz | cenarion circle doesn't really sound like you'd need a whole guild playing for anything. |
| 22:34.50 | Cide | today's xkcd is great |
| 22:35.03 | airtonix | so are slurry buckets |
| 22:35.04 | eidolarr | no not at all, but it was still an insane amount of grinding for a petty item |
| 22:35.04 | Gnarfoz | (maybe you mean one of those AQ reward items that require instance drops?) |
| 22:35.06 | Warloco | wait wait, are you guys talking about the wotlk quel serrar? |
| 22:35.13 | Gnarfoz | Warloco: no, we never were |
| 22:35.13 | eidolarr | no, classic |
| 22:35.18 | Warloco | k good |
| 22:35.27 | Warloco | was about to go ragin'! |
| 22:35.30 | eidolarr | maybe your server had a lot more people playing, but on mine it was like, 5k for the book on the AH |
| 22:35.44 | Gnarfoz | haha my server is a fucking backwater if there ever was one ;) |
| 22:35.46 | Gnarfoz | rp-pvp |
| 22:35.55 | eidolarr | haha i was original rp |
| 22:35.56 | eidolarr | probably even worse |
| 22:36.07 | eidolarr | by the time BWL was cleared, AQ40 was out |
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| 22:36.19 | Warloco | if ive never made an oUF layout before, and I want to make a semi-complex one, what would be a good place to start? |
| 22:36.30 | eidolarr | haha i played on the server where the guild that built the mallet for AQ40 demanded the server give them gold before they open it |
| 22:36.31 | Gnarfoz | time to waste some money and go to sleep :F |
| 22:36.33 | airtonix | a text editor |
| 22:36.57 | Warloco | what I meant was, is there some guide/thread/whatever with general guidelines |
| 22:37.01 | airtonix | no |
| 22:37.12 | Warloco | or is it merely monkey-see, monkey-do |
| 22:37.14 | Gnarfoz | (which is sad, tbh) |
| 22:37.16 | airtonix | no |
| 22:37.21 | eidolarr | my point is that back when classic was out, the game was far more focused on hardcore players with huge amounts of time than it is now |
| 22:37.41 | eidolarr | Blizzard has discovered the folly of that and moved make the content far more accessible |
| 22:37.42 | airtonix | oUF is the sacred word spread only to the devoted by haste |
| 22:37.48 | Gnarfoz | you could take "huge amounts of time" out of that equasion and add "who knew how to efficiently use their time" ;-) |
| 22:38.03 | Gnarfoz | which doesn't invalidate your next statement in any form, though |
| 22:38.12 | eidolarr | again, anything in PvP was a huge time sink |
| 22:38.19 | Gnarfoz | PVP is a time sink by definition |
| 22:38.20 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 22:38.26 | eidolarr | nah, look at arenas |
| 22:38.30 | Gnarfoz | luckily nobody forced you to do it |
| 22:38.32 | eidolarr | you can play 2hr/week if you're good |
| 22:38.41 | Gnarfoz | you know as well as I that we were talking about classic - no arenas :p |
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| 22:38.55 | Warloco | airto, where do you suggest I start then |
| 22:38.57 | eidolarr | what? you are jumping all over the place |
| 22:39.02 | airtonix | on your knees |
| 22:39.12 | eidolarr | PvP is not a time sink, arenas witness it, but in classic it was |
| 22:39.23 | eidolarr | *PvP is not essentially |
| 22:39.38 | Gnarfoz | there's more than enough people who spend as much time in arenas now as people did in BGs in classic |
| 22:39.47 | eidolarr | sure but you don't have to |
| 22:39.53 | Gnarfoz | you didn't have to THEN either. |
| 22:39.58 | Gnarfoz | it's all by choice. |
| 22:39.59 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 22:40.00 | eidolarr | to get the highest rewards? are you kidding? |
| 22:40.09 | Warloco | anything other than attempts at wit or? |
| 22:40.14 | Gnarfoz | to get the highest rewards in pvp, sure, but nobody forced you to get them, what kind of logic is this |
| 22:40.43 | eidolarr | i don't know if yuo're intentionally evading or if i am genuinely failing to communicate |
| 22:40.48 | eidolarr | let me try again |
| 22:40.57 | Gnarfoz | I'm not evading, you're communicating fine: I'm disagreeing with you. |
| 22:41.39 | eidolarr | in classic WoW, the barriers to entry for the best items were very high, especially in terms of time requirement, but this is now much less true; PvP is a good example, as the old system required massive time investments, but arenas do not |
| 22:42.18 | Gnarfoz | I fail to see how arenas don't require a significant time investment to reach the highest ranks. |
| 22:42.32 | eidolarr | again, you can play 10 games a week and be #1 |
| 22:42.42 | Gnarfoz | haha, yeah, if you did it 20 times before. |
| 22:43.00 | Xyphoid | do you think heroic LK drops have a low barrier to entry? |
| 22:43.11 | Xyphoid | out of curiosity |
| 22:43.15 | eidolarr | if you did every week for the few weeks before |
| 22:43.34 | eidolarr | Xyphoid: in comparison to the days of old, yes |
| 22:43.57 | eidolarr | on my server, there was one guild that was capable of raiding high end content, and they were a tier behind the wave always |
| 22:43.58 | Gnarfoz | you're mixing and matching stuff, picking the worst cases out of all cases there are to make a point about a *general* situation. that's what makes your points look hollow. |
| 22:44.37 | Gnarfoz | "omg ironfoe was a rare rare rare drop -> the best items in wow classic were hard to get" - wut |
| 22:44.41 | Gnarfoz | does not compute. |
| 22:44.55 | eidolarr | i'm talking about PvP right now because i thought it was an obvious point and you seem to disagree |
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| 22:45.12 | eidolarr | if you want to talk about rare drops i can do that too, but don't jump all over |
| 22:45.19 | Gnarfoz | if you "talk about pvp" as soon as your other points start falling apart, fine :\ |
| 22:46.18 | cog|away | now, children |
| 22:46.18 | eidolarr | this is what it seems like to me: i start explaining soemthing in depth, and then you pull up something unrelated and say i haven't defended that |
| 22:46.31 | Gnarfoz | if anything, the barrier for pvp was lower in classic; ALL you had to invest was time, no serious skill involved. However you can try as you might, that won't work with arenas. |
| 22:46.42 | Gnarfoz | cog|away: you're not old enough to say that, yet :p |
| 22:47.24 | eidolarr | Gnarfoz: i mean in terms of time investment; old PvP required huge amuonts of time, both in BGs themselves and in raiding for the gear |
| 22:47.27 | Gnarfoz | eidolarr: not sure what you're getting at, it's all the same conversation. do you need more RAM to keep it all together? ;) |
| 22:47.45 | Gnarfoz | it REQUIRED it only if you wanted to achieve the highest of the highest |
| 22:47.50 | eidolarr | yes |
| 22:47.51 | Gnarfoz | the same still holds true today. |
| 22:47.54 | eidolarr | and i am saying that it is no longer required |
| 22:47.59 | Gnarfoz | unless you magically reach team#1 without practice |
| 22:48.28 | vithos | does WUU work ok now? been gone a long time |
| 22:48.37 | eidolarr | being #1 because of practice is different from being #1 because of sheer time investment |
| 22:48.45 | eidolarr | I know a lot of people who play all day long adn still suck lol |
| 22:48.53 | Gnarfoz | you can't reach team#1 just because of sheer time investement |
| 22:48.55 | Gnarfoz | that's the point |
| 22:49.22 | eidolarr | right,a nd my point is that you could in the old days, and moreover you COULDN'T reach #1 without the time investment back then |
| 22:49.35 | Gnarfoz | vithos: not sure, WoWI's "Minion" updater has a similar spirit. Althought I'm not sure what you'd use it with, these days I find that everything I'd ever need, addon-wise, is either on Curse or on WoWI. And Minion can't do Curse. ;) |
| 22:50.18 | eidolarr | my whole point here is that they have greatly relieved the time requirements to progress in WoW |
| 22:50.28 | vithos | i was hoping there would be a Grand Unified Addon Updater by now |
| 22:50.42 | Gnarfoz | eidolarr: while that is true, it doesn't support your point that to reach the highest of the highest, you don't have to invest as much time now as you did back then. (n.b. now it's you who's "jumping around" - you changed your position to accommodate what your points can actually support ;-)) |
| 22:50.52 | vithos | but if the two work well and don't interfere with each other i can deal with that |
| 22:51.17 | eidolarr | Gnarfoz: do you believe that gladiators play as much as high warlords did? |
| 22:51.28 | Gnarfoz | eidolarr: they reduced the requirements (both skill and time wise) to enjoy more parts of WoW in *some* way, but for the ultimate in either pve or pvp, it's still close to the same =) |
| 22:51.31 | eidolarr | well i guess pre-HWL, high warlords immediately took a monthlong break |
| 22:51.53 | Gnarfoz | every single one of the, I'm sure. You generalize too much based on your own limited experiences. |
| 22:52.16 | eidolarr | I got to rank 11 in classic and have achieved gladiator several times since then, it's no where near the same |
| 22:52.28 | eidolarr | i was not being serious there =/ |
| 22:52.34 | Gnarfoz | did you erase all of your memories of playing wow in the mean time? |
| 22:52.39 | Gnarfoz | because that's what "barrier of entry" means. |
| 22:52.54 | Gnarfoz | you already invested the time for practice! that's why it's not taking you so long today. |
| 22:53.29 | eidolarr | WOTLK is a very different game from classic, yet me and my partner got gladiator the first season starting halfway through |
| 22:53.40 | Gnarfoz | indeed, that's what I'm saying. |
| 22:53.42 | eidolarr | we played more than we would today, we did like 100 games one of the weeks lol, but still not even close to the old grind |
| 22:54.23 | Gnarfoz | it's not so different as for your experiences to be wasted. new players would have no concept of "the usual" tactics, even if there were new ones, and old ones ceased to exist. you'd still be miles ahead of them |
| 22:55.04 | eidolarr | the only experience that carries over is communicating with your team and basic game mechanics, which you pick up leveling |
| 22:55.40 | Gnarfoz | do you feel that, today, leveling from 1-80 really teaches you many relevant things? |
| 22:55.54 | Gnarfoz | it's all dumbed down, new players know shit all |
| 22:56.26 | Gnarfoz | they wouldn't know how to use polymorph if it wasn't fun to use because it makes pretty little sheep. ;F |
| 22:56.48 | eidolarr | alright, fair enough, levleing on its own isn't enough, but a player with a 1700 rating in BC knows as much about WOTLK's mechanics as a player who had 2400 |
| 22:57.31 | Xyphoid | heh i wouldn't say that levelling 1-60 taught you that much relevant either |
| 22:57.53 | eidolarr | yeah lol i remember the first MC raids |
| 22:57.54 | Gnarfoz | Xyphoid: when you couldn't simply waltz through instances basically unchecked? I'd beg to differ |
| 22:58.15 | eidolarr | "everyone zerg the giant on the left, and if your'e still alive after, zone out and we'll res up for the other one" |
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| 22:58.36 | Gnarfoz | Strath and Scholomance before 1.5, when 5-manning them was dreaded and only done for people who needed the quests done |
| 22:58.50 | eidolarr | lol yep |
| 22:58.57 | eidolarr | although to be fair half of that was that they were like 3 hours long |
| 22:59.07 | eidolarr | the worst was definitely warlord's command |
| 22:59.09 | Gnarfoz | no problem if you have a 12hr day! ;p |
| 22:59.12 | eidolarr | full LBRS clear uggggh |
| 22:59.29 | Gnarfoz | apropos 12hr day, WTB 30hr days. |
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| 22:59.39 | Gnarfoz | those would fit better with my natural sleep rhythm |
| 23:00.02 | Lopeppeppy | I remember when Strat, Scholo, and Dire Maul were hard dungeons. |
| 23:00.07 | Gnarfoz | alas, other people would disagree, so it's sleepytime now and back to work, after :( |
| 23:00.11 | eidolarr | anyways, i think you are mixing timesink in the sense that it takes time to be good at it, with timesink in the sense of just requiring time |
| 23:00.22 | Gnarfoz | well, the latter is true of ANY game. |
| 23:00.23 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 23:00.24 | eidolarr | remember in scholo, the room below the bridge in the very beginning? that was so hard to pull |
| 23:00.28 | Gnarfoz | they're there to WASTE TIME :D |
| 23:01.07 | eidolarr | yeah but lets stay real here, pure grinding like old PvP is different from leveling or running an instance for WoW players |
| 23:01.07 | Gnarfoz | certainly, and it was a fun challenge, which is also why I long for Blizzard to not nerf Cataclysm instances to all hell and back |
| 23:01.22 | Gnarfoz | certainly |
| 23:01.30 | eidolarr | imo just if they make AOE less dominant, which they seem to be doing |
| 23:01.40 | eidolarr | I remember when you had to LOS like every pull, and use all your CC |
| 23:01.52 | eidolarr | remember having a hunter kite the adds on the last boss of UBRS? |
| 23:02.08 | Gnarfoz | if I had the time (and I could, but closely, arrange for that, even with a full-time job), I'd do it again though, just because we had so much fun as a team ;) |
| 23:02.24 | Gnarfoz | eidolarr: the adds? the hunter kited the boss! :D |
| 23:02.26 | eidolarr | which, UBRS? |
| 23:02.38 | eidolarr | Gnarfoz: yeah well we were all dumbasses on my server |
| 23:02.45 | Gnarfoz | the "do it again" part was directed at classic pvp |
| 23:02.55 | Lopeppeppy | I remember kiting those adds as a rogue. :) |
| 23:03.01 | eidolarr | it was fun for like the first 10 hours tops |
| 23:03.10 | eidolarr | around the 14th it stopped being so |
| 23:03.17 | eidolarr | not that i did that, i liked killing civiis too much |
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| 23:03.35 | Gnarfoz | well, if you're not having fun socializing, I could see how that part would do nothing for you |
| 23:03.37 | Maldivia | ahh, BRC and UBRS... Beauty and The Beast :P |
| 23:03.49 | Dashkal | quit |
| 23:03.56 | Gnarfoz | actual comments relevant to the BGs we were playing were rather rare on TS |
| 23:04.23 | eidolarr | well for socializing i was discovering marijuana at the tmie so i had that covered |
| 23:04.44 | Gnarfoz | order 2x2TB + 1x128GB SSD (+2 drive cases I'm getting because I know they'll not be made sooner rather than later): yes/no? |
| 23:05.03 | eidolarr | cuanta cuesta |
| 23:05.28 | eidolarr | idk i've always found that line of thought kind of weak |
| 23:05.48 | eidolarr | i mean, you could be doing anything and socializing, it doesn't speak well of the game, it speaks of the fun of socializing |
| 23:06.11 | Gnarfoz | ~537EUR |
| 23:06.14 | eidolarr | "i enjoy this game because i can talk with people online about unrelated topics" isn't very high praise of the game |
| 23:06.38 | eidolarr | what are you gonna use the SSD for? |
| 23:06.49 | Gnarfoz | not for movie storage |
| 23:06.53 | Gnarfoz | dun dun dunnn |
| 23:06.54 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 23:07.18 | Gnarfoz | OS + 1 or 2 games + the select few regularily used apps |
| 23:07.26 | Gnarfoz | (i.e. what everyone uses them for) |
| 23:07.35 | eidolarr | holy crap 4TB is a lot of space |
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| 23:07.57 | Gnarfoz | indeed, but it'll only net me 2TB, going to raid1 those, probably. |
| 23:08.11 | eidolarr | I thought abuot getting that and using a redundant array |
| 23:08.24 | eidolarr | but honestly when you get to that point you're probably better off with some sort of cloud storage, if it's affordable |
| 23:08.52 | Gnarfoz | not really keen on the idea of losing such a drive (or making backups of the content, I'd need to backup everything... to another drive of similar size... sounds like RAID1 to me) |
| 23:09.43 | Gnarfoz | "cloud" shit is only ever good if you live on some cloud where there's ridiculous bandwidth available ;p |
| 23:10.09 | eidolarr | well, not if you're using it for long term storage; you pull off what you're expecting to use |
| 23:10.20 | eidolarr | although looking around, it looks like 2TB of cloud storage would cost you a child |
| 23:10.28 | Gnarfoz | cloud storage... |
| 23:10.43 | Gnarfoz | it'd probably take me a year to upload that much. |
| 23:11.06 | eidolarr | hahaha hire someone to drive it all in |
| 23:11.08 | eidolarr | on DVDs |
| 23:11.11 | Gnarfoz | yeah; Germany, broadband wasteland. not sure where the people live who invent those concepts |
| 23:11.17 | Gnarfoz | that might actually be quicker |
| 23:11.18 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 23:11.45 | eidolarr | idk when I had a raid 1 array it was a bitch to deal with failures, and a lot of the worst failures would destroy both drives anyway |
| 23:12.51 | Gnarfoz | huh? sounds weird. |
| 23:13.20 | eidolarr | power surges, floods, meteor strikes |
| 23:13.21 | Gnarfoz | the only failure that could destroy both drives would be... both drives failing (or the motherboard dying with no possibility of replacement) |
| 23:13.31 | Gnarfoz | that's not what RAID is supposed to protect you against. |
| 23:13.32 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 23:13.42 | eidolarr | floods? |
| 23:13.45 | eidolarr | well then i am owed a refund |
| 23:13.52 | Gnarfoz | who did you buy RAID from? |
| 23:13.53 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 23:14.16 | Gnarfoz | RAID is supposed to protect you against failure of the drives involved in it, that's it - everything else still is backup land. |
| 23:14.20 | A-KO | yep |
| 23:14.25 | eidolarr | they were WD hard drives, but they got destroyed when submerged |
| 23:14.31 | Gnarfoz | who'd have thought?! |
| 23:14.52 | eidolarr | i-i don't understand, i thought you just said it should somehow survive a flood |
| 23:15.18 | Gnarfoz | huh? I said "that's not what RAID is supposed to prorect you against" |
| 23:15.22 | Gnarfoz | notice the negation |
| 23:15.34 | eidolarr | oh shit, my bad |
| 23:17.17 | eidolarr | It seems to me like for a consumer with one hard drive, a hard drive failure is only a little more likely than physical damage |
| 23:18.19 | eidolarr | I've only had one hard drive failure without RAID, ever |
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| 23:18.50 | A-KO | people are actually really not well versed in raid.... |
| 23:19.22 | A-KO | RAID1 preferably with bbwc, otherwise raid 5/6 if you need massive scaling without massive overhead...preferably with hot-swap drives.... |
| 23:19.29 | A-KO | but many people turn on write caching without battery... |
| 23:19.31 | A-KO | not a great idea :P |
| 23:19.48 | eidolarr | or even better, striping with no redundancy |
| 23:20.02 | A-KO | oh, I'm talking stuff I see in "IT" land |
| 23:20.07 | A-KO | server-side stuff that I've seen done |
| 23:20.13 | A-KO | then again, i'ts not always their fault |
| 23:20.17 | A-KO | Dell does it by default I'm pretty sure |
| 23:20.22 | eidolarr | did you see that video where they striped 16 SSDs? |
| 23:20.34 | eidolarr | that is probably a lot of fun for the month until it breaks |
| 23:20.41 | A-KO | yeah |
| 23:20.45 | A-KO | <3 my SSD |
| 23:20.48 | Gnarfoz | raid 10 them, win |
| 23:21.04 | A-KO | I've got 3 drives in a RAID5 (intel ICH9R) (1.5TB each drive), and an 80GB Intel SSD |
| 23:21.12 | A-KO | not the ideal situation I want for the raid |
| 23:21.13 | Gnarfoz | also, saying that raid5/6 has no massive overhead is ridiculous, it depends on what you use the storage for. ;) |
| 23:21.15 | A-KO | but it works reasonably well |
| 23:21.18 | Lopeppeppy | Okay, now with new and improved air conditioning... set up for the comfort of my cats. I am such a cat slave. :) |
| 23:21.26 | A-KO | Gnarfoz: I meant as far as cost overhead |
| 23:21.31 | Gnarfoz | oh, well, yeah. |
| 23:21.32 | A-KO | Lopeppeppy: I got a great cat picture the other day :P |
| 23:21.42 | A-KO | Gnarfoz: RAID5/6 scale the best with cost |
| 23:21.50 | alestane | How is it for cat comfort, Peppy? |
| 23:21.53 | Gnarfoz | that's true, of course. |
| 23:21.54 | A-KO | it's really hard to convicne people that they need backup though |
| 23:21.59 | A-KO | after setting up a raid |
| 23:22.01 | Gnarfoz | if you can use raid5/6 for your needs. ^^ |
| 23:22.02 | alestane | Not so noisy for less cat freakouts? |
| 23:22.29 | Gnarfoz | alestane: they probably don't like heat, either? |
| 23:22.33 | A-KO | cats are awesome |
| 23:22.35 | A-KO | hands down |
| 23:22.42 | Gnarfoz | I'm allergic to cats :( |
| 23:23.11 | A-KO | http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs517.ash1/30463_403987460266_641465266_4616130_969873_n.jpg < my cat |
| 23:23.14 | Gnarfoz | only since a few years ago, too, not sure who's brilliant idea that was :F |
| 23:23.14 | vithos | cats like heat |
| 23:23.36 | eidolarr | I've never really understood why parity is all you need for error detection |
| 23:23.43 | alestane | !api SetModifiedClick |
| 23:23.44 | lua_bot | SetModifiedClick: Sets a modified click for a given action (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/SetModifiedClick) |
| 23:24.15 | A-KO | my cat also tries to find the best way to get on my lap |
| 23:24.18 | A-KO | she'll creep up around my desk |
| 23:24.22 | A-KO | behind my monitor |
| 23:24.41 | A-KO | if I move her off, she'll wait like 15 minutes |
| 23:24.42 | A-KO | try again |
| 23:24.47 | A-KO | get extremely comfortable, start purring |
| 23:24.55 | Gnarfoz | eidolarr: the wikipedia article on parity should clear that up in a handful of minutes, easily?^^ |
| 23:25.29 | alestane | !api CurrentBind |
| 23:25.30 | lua_bot | GetCurrentBindingSet: Returns which set of key bindings is currently in use (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetCurrentBindingSet) |
| 23:25.35 | Gnarfoz | 01:25 :F still have neither ordered that stuff nor gone to bed, IRC is worse than Wow! |
| 23:25.50 | A-KO | god |
| 23:25.52 | A-KO | IRC..... |
| 23:25.52 | A-KO | you know |
| 23:25.58 | A-KO | I've been on IRC now......about 14 years |
| 23:26.07 | A-KO | I'm 26.....lol |
| 23:26.12 | Gnarfoz | about the same here |
| 23:26.16 | fiphi | Spejnar: You don't happen to be called Sebastian? |
| 23:26.17 | A-KO | I remember when they added while loops to mIRC...... |
| 23:26.33 | Gnarfoz | I *don't* remember when I last used mIRC. ;p |
| 23:26.50 | A-KO | I've found mIRC to be the best windows IRC client I've used--particularly because I scripted a majority of it out |
| 23:26.51 | alestane | Also, Lopeppeppy, how is it for *your* comfort? Not such a cat slave if you benefit too. |
| 23:27.21 | A-KO | I don't need text consoles to feel cool :P |
| 23:27.29 | Gnarfoz | IRC is a text console |
| 23:28.06 | Gnarfoz | no such thing as graphical IRC, unless someone really took too many drugs and figured out a way to implement that |
| 23:28.14 | Kraps | http://www.brunching.com/images/geekchartbig.gif |
| 23:28.16 | A-KO | what I mean is, I don't need like a bash shell interface with ncurses interfaces :P |
| 23:28.18 | A-KO | and btw Gnarfoz |
| 23:28.19 | Torhal | IRC client with GUI controls. |
| 23:28.21 | A-KO | Microsoft did that years ago |
| 23:28.22 | Torhal | So THERE! |
| 23:28.25 | A-KO | Microsoft Chat |
| 23:28.31 | Gnarfoz | Torhal: I meant what I said the way I worded it. ;p |
| 23:28.36 | A-KO | Comic Chat |
| 23:28.44 | A-KO | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Comic_Chat |
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| 23:29.01 | Gnarfoz | oh my god |
| 23:29.07 | Gnarfoz | what an abomination |
| 23:29.11 | Torhal | Foof. Hour nap sounds AWESOME. |
| 23:29.36 | eidolarr | that looks like it would be fun for a few minutes |
| 23:29.47 | Gnarfoz | I withdraw in utter shock and amazement that you could produce that from memory. ;p |
| 23:29.56 | A-KO | haha |
| 23:30.15 | A-KO | Gnarfoz: It was such an abomination then that it kind of stuck in my head |
| 23:30.20 | A-KO | lemme see if Windows 7 has it...hmm |
| 23:30.30 | eidolarr | wiki says abandoned in IE5 |
| 23:30.46 | Gnarfoz | last included in win2k |
| 23:30.54 | A-KO | yeah :( well, I was thinking maybe they included it or something...who knows...lol... |
| 23:31.16 | Slaren | is there any way to detect if a player in your group is phased ? |
| 23:31.33 | Slaren | like.. knowing who is inside in halion and who is outside |
| 23:31.33 | Gnarfoz | not at the moment, let's hope something like that'll be available in 4.0 |
| 23:31.37 | Slaren | oh well |
| 23:31.39 | Slaren | thanks |
| 23:32.04 | Gnarfoz | you could do it if there's any kind of buff/debuff that you gain/lose depending on where you are |
| 23:32.28 | Slaren | maybe i could try checking the buff times? |
| 23:32.28 | Gnarfoz | (which of course only fits raid encounters, but since you're talking about halion anyway, that's fine I guess) |
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| 23:32.38 | Slaren | afaik buffs don't return times when a player is in a different phase |
| 23:32.39 | A-KO^^ | HI! |
| 23:32.50 | A-KO^^ | # Appears as ANNA |
| 23:32.57 | A-KO^^ | (#G=10E;10M1) haha |
| 23:33.04 | A-KO | yes |
| 23:33.05 | A-KO | I found it |
| 23:33.11 | Gnarfoz | A-KO: oh lord |
| 23:33.18 | A-KO^^ | (#G>10E=10M1) hahahaha, winsauce. |
| 23:33.31 | *** part/#wowuidev A-KO^^ (A-KO@c-68-33-146-13.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 23:33.46 | A-KO | :P |
| 23:34.17 | A-KO | oh internets |
| 23:34.57 | Gnarfoz | wtf |
| 23:35.20 | Gnarfoz | store I'm ordering from refuses to put the 2TB drive in my basket twice o_O |
| 23:36.10 | Gnarfoz | not sure what they're playing at... probably just badly hidden that they have only 1 left in stock? that seems weird. |
| 23:36.26 | fiphi | No "1 per customer" limit? |
| 23:37.09 | Gnarfoz | that's what I'm saying. |
| 23:37.34 | fiphi | No, 1 left in stock you said. :p |
| 23:37.56 | Gnarfoz | I described what happened "they won't let me put 2 in my basket" and tried finding an explanation for it. |
| 23:38.41 | Gnarfoz | why would there be a limit per customer? it doesn't say anything about such a limit on the item's page, nor would a limit make any sense |
| 23:39.17 | Gnarfoz | also, what's stopping me from ordering another one when I'm done with this order? it's just weird and random. :D |
| 23:39.35 | Cide | hi shirik |
| 23:40.07 | fiphi | Gnarfoz: Sometimes in stores if there's a sale or something special, they say "Only X per person" |
| 23:40.18 | Gnarfoz | this is no sale |
| 23:40.29 | Gnarfoz | and it doesn't say X per person |
| 23:40.31 | fiphi | It was just a question. Don't bite my head off. |
| 23:40.34 | fiphi | :) |
| 23:41.19 | Gnarfoz | I already said as much above, I probably wasn't clear - also, such limits are practically unheard of here except for items with limited availability |
| 23:41.28 | fiphi | Okay. |
| 23:41.33 | fiphi | Well, it's weird none-the-less. |
| 23:41.37 | Gnarfoz | it's a hard drive, how can it be rare :D |
| 23:41.44 | fiphi | :p |
| 23:41.46 | fiphi | No idea. |
| 23:41.51 | Gnarfoz | I have one idea though |
| 23:42.02 | Gnarfoz | (also they seem to have purged me from their customer database :() |
| 23:42.22 | fiphi | Did you do something to anger the nice store? :P |
| 23:42.34 | Gnarfoz | no, time just passed |
| 23:42.47 | Gnarfoz | still have my login details saved in firefox, but the field firefox puts my customer id in is labeled "email address" now |
| 23:43.26 | fiphi | You don't remember the e-mail you signed upw ith? |
| 23:43.29 | fiphi | Maybe you can use that |
| 23:43.37 | Gnarfoz | so that obviously won't work since they changed how their logins work; using the appropriate email address doesn't work either, also "forgot your password?" says "sorry, unknown email" :( |
| 23:43.37 | fiphi | Just change of what credentials are needed |
| 23:43.42 | fiphi | Ah. |
| 23:44.18 | Gnarfoz | well, that's not really problematic, not being to order the number of drives I want to buy is, though |
| 23:44.30 | Gnarfoz | I'll try that idea I had a minute ago |
| 23:44.57 | Gnarfoz | the link I went to the store with had a referer id from the price check site I used attached to it |
| 23:45.01 | Gnarfoz | maybe that's why |
| 23:45.03 | MoonWitch | Seerah ping |
| 23:45.12 | Seerah | hi moonie! |
| 23:45.16 | MoonWitch | hey Seerah |
| 23:45.27 | Seerah | sorry to hear your news from the other day (I wasn't home when you wrote). |
| 23:45.31 | MoonWitch | you're hereby going with me and Cairenn on a girlz night next Blizzcon |
| 23:45.38 | Seerah | how was your surgery? |
| 23:45.41 | Seerah | okies |
| 23:45.46 | MoonWitch | it's alright |
| 23:45.53 | Lopeppeppy | is orange with envy. |
| 23:46.07 | MoonWitch | Lopeppeppy: I hadn't seen your name, you gotta come too |
| 23:46.30 | alestane | Dinos are usually green! |
| 23:47.01 | Gnarfoz | fiphi: that was it. also, the drive is now 20EUR more expensive. fuck that. :F |
| 23:47.09 | fiphi | Ah, so there was a discount? |
| 23:47.09 | Lopeppeppy | Orange was the original color of envy, alestane. :) |
| 23:47.12 | fiphi | From the referrer?= |
| 23:47.18 | Lopeppeppy | MoonWitch, I can be the DD. |
| 23:47.25 | Gnarfoz | fiphi: yeah, apparently. they didn't go out of their way of showing that, though |
| 23:47.31 | MoonWitch | I can't drink anymore with the surgery |
| 23:47.34 | fiphi | Huh, that's... nice of them. |
| 23:47.36 | Gnarfoz | err to show that |
| 23:47.37 | MoonWitch | one beer would make me totally drunk |
| 23:47.47 | Lopeppeppy | I can't drink either, we can DD the other two! |
| 23:47.51 | MoonWitch | yay |
| 23:47.58 | MoonWitch | (the pictures would be awesome) |
| 23:48.08 | MoonWitch | (not to mention the trouble we would get into) |
| 23:48.27 | Gnarfoz | well, ironically, I'll now use said price check site to solve the problem: I'll blacklist that store and have it find me the next best result for the 3 items I want to buy. ;D |
| 23:48.39 | fiphi | :D |
| 23:48.44 | fiphi | Why blacklist it? |
| 23:48.52 | fiphi | Isn't that a bit harsh? :p |
| 23:49.18 | Lopeppeppy | I have never ever gotten into trouble with Cairenn before. |
| 23:49.20 | Lopeppeppy | Ever. |
| 23:49.21 | Gnarfoz | I could've said "deselected" if that makes more sense |
| 23:49.27 | eidolarr | A-KO: have you played stalker or vampire bloodlines? |
| 23:49.33 | MoonWitch | Lopeppeppy: We talking about the same Cairenn? |
| 23:49.41 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 23:50.06 | Lopeppeppy | In order to get "in trouble" one must be caught first! We're just too good at sneakin'. |
| 23:50.13 | MoonWitch | true |
| 23:50.29 | MoonWitch | Seerah is quiet now |
| 23:50.35 | MoonWitch | I hope I didn't scare you :P |
| 23:50.46 | Gnarfoz | fiphi: I could've said "deselected" if that makes more sense |
| 23:50.53 | Seerah | is getting in a little goblin playing before heading to see Toy Story 3 ;) |
| 23:50.54 | fiphi | Ah. Yeah. |
| 23:51.01 | Gnarfoz | fiphi: not sure if I can link this: http://geizhals.at/deutschland/?cat=WL-99008 |
| 23:51.03 | MoonWitch | I hate you Seerah |
| 23:51.08 | Seerah | :( |
| 23:51.12 | MoonWitch | lol I cant |
| 23:51.13 | fiphi | Nah, it's blank. |
| 23:51.17 | MoonWitch | you're too sweet |
| 23:51.22 | fiphi | And aaah, Gnarfoz, you're German? |
| 23:51.22 | Gnarfoz | too bad |
| 23:51.27 | Gnarfoz | idd |
| 23:51.31 | Kraps | why are sex scenes in video game so awesome? |
| 23:51.32 | fiphi | Maybe you can help me with a language question? |
| 23:51.38 | Gnarfoz | I could try |
| 23:51.44 | fiphi | I'll take it in a query. :P |
| 23:51.47 | MoonWitch | Cairenn, Lopeppeppy and Seerah : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKzkYHDOYSA (crap vid though) |
| 23:52.08 | Kraps | in max payne its just comic panes with sound, but its awesome |
| 23:52.12 | MoonWitch | oh yes, Seerah - don't allow me to sing in a karoake place |
| 23:52.30 | eidolarr | Kraps: dragon age? mass effect? |
| 23:52.57 | eidolarr | i think in roleplaying games it is getting dangerously close to dating sims lol |
| 23:53.06 | MoonWitch | karaoke* |
| 23:53.26 | alestane | Cairenn isn't likely to go anywhere near one anyway, MoonWitch, you're probably safe. |
| 23:53.50 | alestane | Peppy and Seerah both studied voice though. |
| 23:53.50 | MoonWitch | alestane: why would you say that? |
| 23:53.54 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, I adore karaoke. |
| 23:54.04 | MoonWitch | peppy, you sing too then? |
| 23:54.04 | Cairenn | alestane: I have no problem with going somewhere with karaoke :) |
| 23:54.19 | Cairenn | I won't sing |
| 23:54.26 | Seerah | she won't go anywhere near the mike |
| 23:54.33 | Cairenn | but I have no problem with going there |
| 23:54.34 | Cairenn | yep |
| 23:54.41 | alestane | She swears she couldn't follow a tune if you gave her a map, MoonWitch. |
| 23:54.46 | Cairenn | because I wouldn't subject my friends to that |
| 23:54.59 | MoonWitch | I might get her to sing though, not saying it would be near a mike though |
| 23:55.18 | Cairenn | well, there's singing and then there's singing ..... ;) |
| 23:55.23 | alestane | Gasping ~= singing. |
| 23:55.24 | MoonWitch | alestane: nor can I :) I can't even hit notes right |
| 23:56.13 | Lopeppeppy | Moose did not like that song. |
| 23:56.28 | alestane | The one you just sang, Peppy? |
| 23:56.35 | alestane | Randomness: "Vin Diesel. Many people who like Facebook Site Governance also like this." |
| 23:57.03 | Lopeppeppy | The video, she came up to the keyboard to protest the noise. |
| 23:57.10 | MoonWitch | lol |
