| 00:01.42 | Trela | AWESOME! |
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| 00:39.25 | zenzelezz | "Total time played: 9 days, 9 hours, 9 minutes, 9 seconds" o_O |
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| 00:57.24 | miica | http://github.com/miica/AngryDKP4/blob/master/Officer.lua |
| 01:01.19 | Iriel | IGNORED_ITEMS should probably be inverted into a map keyed by the name, so yu can just do if IGNORED_ITEMS_MAP[itemname] |
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| 01:11.03 | NightHawkTheSane | http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2010/06/25/lunchtime-quickie-dont-you-wish-any-of-your-babysitters-had-been-this-cool |
| 01:12.28 | Thunder_Child | but...why naked? |
| 01:13.29 | NightHawkTheSane | why NOT? |
| 01:15.27 | Wobin | stupid mouse game =P |
| 01:15.46 | Wobin | I generally get killed right at the start by falling mice pushing me off the edge |
| 01:16.26 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/06/25/funny-pictures-i-can-save-you/ |
| 01:18.13 | Wobin | sigh |
| 01:18.17 | Wobin | I'm looking at the Steam sales |
| 01:18.32 | Wobin | but I'm just not motivated |
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| 01:27.00 | Thunder_Child | Wobin: in what way? |
| 01:27.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: on the other hand, picking up a half-dozen interesting indie games for under $3 each is damn nice |
| 01:28.33 | Wobin | None of these games inspire me to buy them =P |
| 01:28.50 | Thunder_Child | damit blizz, FIX TEH 64! |
| 01:29.04 | Iriel | I already own the ones on the list I'd want to buy |
| 01:29.16 | Thunder_Child | have you tried the rest Iriel? |
| 01:29.38 | Iriel | no, but i have far more games than I have time to play already |
| 01:30.44 | Iriel | And WoW achievements aren't helping |
| 01:31.12 | Thunder_Child | mostly e-peen |
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| 01:42.03 | Wobin | I went and bought Avencast and Nikopol |
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| 01:59.50 | Adys | This action will affect all 19000 conversations in Trash. Are you sure you want to continue? |
| 02:01.39 | NightHawkTheSane | WEEEEEEEEEEE new season of leverage! |
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| 02:15.13 | Adys | Oh god I'm an asshole |
| 02:15.56 | Adys | This warlock standing pvp on in orgrimmar, he's been failing torch catching for like 10 minutes, and right when he got up to 8 stacks, I rezzed and frost nova'd him |
| 02:17.23 | Wobin | Adys: you bastard |
| 02:17.34 | Adys | the poor guy sucks really hard at this. |
| 02:23.35 | NightHawkTheSane | thats what you get for standing around flagged |
| 02:23.48 | NightHawkTheSane | when you dont have to be |
| 02:24.30 | kd3 | eesh. big jump in nvidia drivers |
| 02:24.42 | kd3 | 190-something to 256? |
| 02:24.44 | Adys | kd3: yep, awesome perf boost |
| 02:24.47 | Adys | 195 |
| 02:24.49 | kd3 | yay |
| 02:24.57 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, new drivers, eh? |
| 02:24.58 | Adys | i hit 3-digit in d3d mode :) |
| 02:25.04 | Adys | 3-digit fps* |
| 02:25.06 | kd3 | oooh |
| 02:25.24 | Shirik | lol. |
| 02:25.33 | Shirik | My electric bill was $1.35 |
| 02:25.38 | kd3 | wtf |
| 02:25.40 | kd3 | bastard |
| 02:25.48 | tekkub | My first summer bill was $32 |
| 02:25.48 | Shirik | I actually want to know why it cost that much |
| 02:25.57 | Shirik | I flipped the main breaker before I left |
| 02:26.08 | tekkub | they refunded our deposit, the bill was actually ~$90 |
| 02:26.10 | kd3 | grrs at bills running $100/mo this time of year |
| 02:26.19 | Shirik | so I'm considering getting an ipod |
| 02:26.22 | Shirik | any reason I shouldn't? |
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| 02:26.32 | kd3 | apple pwning your soul? |
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| 02:26.35 | tekkub | which? |
| 02:26.36 | Shirik | I need something to listen to while I'm running |
| 02:26.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: if you dont mind using itunes, and don't mind mp3 and aac files, then no |
| 02:27.07 | tekkub | you can get a sansa fuze for pretty damn cheap if you look around |
| 02:27.41 | Shirik | what exactly is this "ipod touch"? |
| 02:27.46 | Shirik | is so out-of-date :( |
| 02:27.48 | tekkub | trey has one, loved the thing before we got our phones |
| 02:27.56 | kd3 | Shirik, the iphone minus the actual phone bit |
| 02:27.57 | tekkub | now all his music is just on his phone |
| 02:28.14 | kd3 | if you want something cheap, look into a shuffle or one of the new 5g nanos |
| 02:28.21 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ |
| 02:28.51 | tekkub | yea if you're just running, a shuffle would do ya and be the least bulky/annoying |
| 02:28.58 | tekkub | just clip it on somewhere and go |
| 02:29.02 | Shirik | well I'm sitting here like |
| 02:29.07 | Shirik | nano is $122 |
| 02:29.22 | Shirik | where I can get a touch for not much more.. |
| 02:29.37 | Shirik | but you do raise a point that it could really get in the way |
| 02:29.38 | kd3 | but a touch is a hell of a lot bulkier and a lot less space |
| 02:29.50 | tekkub | and easier to break |
| 02:30.51 | tekkub | don't forget to check the refurb store too |
| 02:30.52 | tekkub | http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/ipod?mco=OTY2ODY4NQ |
| 02:31.14 | NightHawkTheSane | if you only lwant it for music & running, a nano's your better option, likely. If you have any intention of using the features of the touch, you could get a case for it or something ot protect it. |
| 02:31.17 | Wobin | http://community.livejournal.com/dear_gnome/696476.html?thread=5493916&style=mine#t5493916 |
| 02:31.18 | Wobin | cry =P |
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| 02:32.04 | Wobin | You'll also get better battery life out of the nano |
| 02:32.12 | Wobin | or shuffle |
| 02:32.12 | NightHawkTheSane | also true |
| 02:32.23 | NightHawkTheSane | i charge my ipod classic like once a week :P |
| 02:32.24 | Shirik | I'm honestly sitting here and looking at the nano and being like "how the hell am I going to carry it" |
| 02:32.31 | Wobin | arm strap? |
| 02:32.35 | Wobin | stick it in your pocket? |
| 02:32.37 | Shirik | they have arm straps? |
| 02:32.39 | tekkub | I never take my classic off the charger ^^ |
| 02:32.40 | NightHawkTheSane | yes |
| 02:32.42 | Shirik | I'd be worried of it falling out of my pocket |
| 02:32.47 | A-KO | http://www.explosm.net/comics/2091/ |
| 02:32.49 | Shirik | they're separate though, right? |
| 02:32.51 | Shirik | not come with it |
| 02:32.53 | NightHawkTheSane | tekkub: its hard to do that when im commuting, so ;) |
| 02:32.56 | Wobin | separate, yes |
| 02:32.57 | tekkub | yes, sep |
| 02:32.57 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: right |
| 02:33.03 | tekkub | the shuffle has a clip on it |
| 02:33.10 | Shirik | question becomes "does walmart carry it" then :P |
| 02:33.15 | NightHawkTheSane | http://store.apple.com/us/product/TX725ZM/A?fnode=MTY1NDA4Mg&mco=MTM3NTA2MTY |
| 02:33.19 | Wobin | well, when you get down to it |
| 02:33.20 | NightHawkTheSane | quite likely, actually |
| 02:33.23 | Wobin | Do you -need- a screen? |
| 02:33.26 | tekkub | I honestly only have the iPod because I hate opening iTunes to play music |
| 02:33.37 | tekkub | I just route it through my computer speakers |
| 02:33.53 | tekkub | and yes, wally should carry them |
| 02:33.54 | tekkub | mine does |
| 02:34.05 | NightHawkTheSane | heh, although apparently there's an arm strap for the ipod touch, wtf? http://store.apple.com/us/product/TX948VC/B?fnode=MTY1NDA4Mg&mco=MTY3ODk1NTE |
| 02:34.20 | Shirik | apparently in stock |
| 02:34.22 | Wobin | if you're not concerned about getting to read what music is playing, get the shuffle |
| 02:34.31 | Shirik | I care about being able to pick what music to play |
| 02:34.37 | Shirik | which is why I'd prefer not getting the shuffle |
| 02:34.42 | Wobin | well, you can do that before the run |
| 02:34.42 | tekkub | then get a nano or better |
| 02:34.42 | Shirik | (and not sifting through 5 million songs) |
| 02:34.53 | Wobin | load up the shuffle with only the music you want |
| 02:34.57 | kd3 | so only put music you like on it? |
| 02:35.05 | Shirik | that could change at any moment kd3! |
| 02:35.09 | tekkub | Shirik is probably like me |
| 02:35.10 | Wobin | the shuffle comes with a clip at least |
| 02:35.24 | tekkub | I'll sit he skipping through shit for a while till the RNG picks something GOOD to play |
| 02:35.30 | Shirik | lol |
| 02:35.31 | tekkub | I like all the music on my iPod |
| 02:35.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: my fear with the shuffle is that i would lose it. that thing is TINY |
| 02:35.37 | Shirik | I have done that before, yes |
| 02:35.49 | Shirik | I think a nano is a good idea |
| 02:35.50 | Shirik | thanks guys |
| 02:35.53 | Wobin | NightHawkTheSane: true... but if it suddenly goes quiet, chances are, you've dropped it =) |
| 02:35.57 | tekkub | there's some refurb nanos |
| 02:36.03 | Shirik | nana |
| 02:36.04 | tekkub | like $100 for the 8GiB ones |
| 02:36.05 | Shirik | I just got paid |
| 02:36.09 | Shirik | might as well use it |
| 02:36.19 | Shirik | not that I had to wait to get paid |
| 02:36.20 | Shirik | but still |
| 02:36.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: that or i hit a quiet patch in a song :P |
| 02:36.33 | Wobin | you have all that money burning a hole in your pocket! |
| 02:37.01 | Wobin | NightHawkTheSane: you can start running in circles at that point, in case it doesn't come back =) |
| 02:37.46 | Wobin | so, what are people's steam account nicks? |
| 02:38.20 | NightHawkTheSane | duaiwe |
| 02:38.52 | Arrowmaster | <-- |
| 02:38.59 | NightHawkTheSane | but i dont play THAT often :P |
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| 02:46.03 | Wobin | rofl http://store.steampowered.com/app/27020/ |
| 02:46.42 | Antiarc | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25626282591&sid=1 |
| 02:47.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: what the crap? :P |
| 02:47.33 | Wobin | NightHawkTheSane: inorite? =) |
| 02:48.04 | ZorbaGama | dude, it's by Tale of Tales |
| 02:48.07 | ZorbaGama | that's just what they do |
| 02:48.25 | NightHawkTheSane | see, now people who say video games arent art just haven't seen those games. |
| 02:48.36 | ZorbaGama | check out http://store.steampowered.com/app/27000/ also |
| 02:49.09 | Wobin | NightHawkTheSane: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1155947 |
| 02:49.42 | Wobin | ZorbaGama: I think I read about this on some feminist blog |
| 02:52.49 | NightHawkTheSane | blargh i need motivation to work on my d&d game.. that's tomorrow |
| 02:54.23 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane: what v? |
| 02:54.55 | NightHawkTheSane | 4 |
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| 02:57.56 | kd3 | whee |
| 02:58.01 | kd3 | a tropical depression in the gulf |
| 03:01.48 | Thunder_Child | well you should already have the arcing storyline done NightHawkTheSane |
| 03:01.49 | Wobin | NightHawkTheSane: http://ursulav.livejournal.com/979795.html |
| 03:01.59 | Thunder_Child | so it's a question of what to throw at them |
| 03:02.37 | kd3 | http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at201001.html |
| 03:03.01 | kd3 | so, wagers on it circling around in the gulf and whacking into Florida after hitting the oil slick? |
| 03:03.41 | Thunder_Child | see, if the hurricane sucks up all the oil, then gets set on fire by some lighting.....fucking awesome |
| 03:04.51 | Cairenn | lol |
| 03:04.55 | NightHawkTheSane | fun fact.. apparently some of google's internal sites cause chrome to crash and/or hang, so a number of the employees use firefox. |
| 03:05.51 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: I have the overall storyline done, what I need to do is work out the details of how they'll progress through it, and specifically (since they're about to enter a dungeon of sorts) exactly WHAT they encounter next. |
| 03:06.02 | NightHawkTheSane | and how that ties in with the story |
| 03:08.28 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane: well, storyline dungeon or random? |
| 03:08.37 | NightHawkTheSane | nothing i do is random :) |
| 03:08.50 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane: random as in side quest |
| 03:09.12 | NightHawkTheSane | but yes, the dungeon is a significant part of the story |
| 03:09.28 | Thunder_Child | ah |
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| 03:21.41 | Shirik | OMFG |
| 03:21.43 | Shirik | what the hell |
| 03:22.10 | Shirik | google chrome just apparently decided to refresh every tab I had open |
| 03:22.24 | Shirik | and I had like 6 tabs open on youtube, all songs |
| 03:22.30 | Shirik | and so they all start playing at once |
| 03:22.33 | Shirik | and then I had to find them |
| 03:22.46 | Thunder_Child | dont keep 500 tabs open |
| 03:23.01 | Shirik | metal, goldfinger, scottish music, electronic |
| 03:23.09 | Shirik | don't go together too well |
| 03:26.56 | Adys | For those interested |
| 03:27.16 | Adys | I just made django-webdbc (http://bit.ly/bjssZb) available on github |
| 03:27.21 | Adys | http://github.com/Adys/django-webdbc |
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| 03:39.53 | kd3 | huh, neat |
| 03:40.01 | kd3 | cpu-vs-gpu: http://blogs.gnome.org/otte/2010/06/26/fun-with-benchmarks/ |
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| 03:57.56 | Wobin | http://videosift.com/video/Quick-What-s-the-Best-Dinosaur-Wrong |
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| 04:19.52 | Wobin | rofl |
| 04:19.52 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrfpnbGXL70 |
| 04:35.41 | Thunder_Child | amazing fail Wobin |
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| 04:41.42 | sylvanaar | man prat has been stable for so long i forgot how sketchy chat mods can be to write |
| 04:43.42 | Thunder_Child | thanks for all the updates sylvanaar |
| 04:44.15 | Thunder_Child | what does chatter have to do with prat though? |
| 04:44.31 | sylvanaar | prat uses 2 of chatters modules |
| 04:44.36 | sylvanaar | or variants of them |
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| 04:45.27 | Politig | Hello everyone |
| 04:45.44 | Thunder_Child | speaking of which. Antiarc, you might want to do something about chatter on wowi if you arent planning on updating there. |
| 04:48.10 | Politig | Can anyone here help me with a quick oUF question? |
| 04:49.44 | Corrodias | unknown |
| 04:49.55 | Corrodias | oh wait, nope, i can't |
| 04:51.31 | Politig | -cricket- |
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| 05:14.41 | NightHawkTheSane | oh man, neil gaiman is awesome (and expensive, apparently): http://journal.neilgaiman.com/2010/05/political-football-in-teacup.html |
| 05:20.25 | Wobin | is going to see him in August |
| 05:20.33 | Wobin | He's doing a reading at the SOH |
| 05:22.03 | Corrodias | he's an author, eh... what sort of stuff does he write? |
| 05:22.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: he's petty awesome to see |
| 05:22.35 | Wobin | yep =) |
| 05:22.51 | Wobin | Corrodias: some really really good books |
| 05:22.58 | Corrodias | most authors do write books, yes |
| 05:23.01 | Wobin | and comics |
| 05:23.06 | Wobin | and screenplays |
| 05:23.13 | Corrodias | so, heavy into fiction? |
| 05:23.17 | Wobin | yeah |
| 05:23.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Corrodias: you've honestly never heard of him? |
| 05:23.36 | Wobin | He wrote the Sandman comics, Coraline, Stardust, American Gods... |
| 05:23.53 | Corrodias | indeed i haven't |
| 05:24.00 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm mildly stunned. |
| 05:24.04 | Wobin | co-wrote Good Omens |
| 05:24.23 | Corrodias | i don't read comics or watch movies, and as of the last few years i haven't even kept up on books (though there are many thousands of thousands of books TOO MANY for me to actually keep track of them all) |
| 05:24.40 | Corrodias | i actually read that one, and still don't remember him |
| 05:25.05 | Wobin | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Gaiman_Bibliography |
| 05:25.10 | Corrodias | though... i don't really remember the book either, so that's not to say there's any significance to that |
| 05:25.18 | Wobin | He's a very good speaker |
| 05:25.32 | Wobin | if you want an example, go listen to his reading of The Graveyard Book |
| 05:25.53 | Corrodias | hey, i'm convinced, he's cool. |
| 05:27.27 | Wobin | pshaw, I'm not trying to convince you =) he'll do that on his own |
| 05:27.58 | Corrodias | i'm not really that interested. i was just curious about what he does. mildly. |
| 05:31.13 | Wobin | He kinda specialises in awesome |
| 05:31.30 | Wobin | and is engaged to Amanda Palmer |
| 05:31.42 | Jerub | Wobin: wiat, what? |
| 05:31.42 | Wobin | of whom you probably know not |
| 05:31.57 | Jerub | Wobin: his awesomeness just got divided be 1e-10 |
| 05:31.58 | Corrodias | indeed |
| 05:32.09 | Jerub | Amanda Fucking Palmer |
| 05:32.11 | Wobin | but who also is awesome |
| 05:32.55 | Wobin | gah. Loch Modan. Closer from Wetlands, or IF? |
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| 05:34.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Jerub: you didn't know that? |
| 05:34.30 | NightHawkTheSane | its not /exactly/ news |
| 05:34.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: if |
| 05:34.53 | Jerub | NightHawkTheSane: i don't care about neil gaiman. |
| 05:34.54 | Wobin | NightHawkTheSane: ta |
| 05:34.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: its a bitch from the FP in wetlands |
| 05:35.09 | Jerub | NightHawkTheSane: but amanda fucking palmer is someone i appreciate |
| 05:35.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Jerub: sure, but you seem to care about amanda palmer :P |
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| 05:35.31 | Jerub | NightHawkTheSane: i have her music. i don't follow her private life |
| 05:35.40 | Wobin | hehe |
| 05:35.45 | Wobin | it often tends to be one and the same |
| 05:35.54 | Corrodias | music and marriage are the same thing, eh |
| 05:35.56 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* like i said, its not exactly news, i figured your reaction meant you followed news about her at least a little bit |
| 05:36.03 | Wobin | AFP is one of the more connected artists I know of |
| 05:36.46 | Wobin | She's the only artist I follow, that successfully organises ninja gigs through Twitter |
| 05:36.57 | Wobin | and said gigs are awesome |
| 05:37.46 | Wobin | you've never quite lived til you've sat in the rain on the steps of the Sydney Opera House, singing with a crowd, a cover of Umbrella on a ukelele |
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| 05:39.31 | Jerub | Wobin: btw, you're in sydney? |
| 05:39.36 | Wobin | aye |
| 05:39.49 | Jerub | Wobin: i'm in town for the next 27 hours or so |
| 05:39.51 | Jerub | at pycon au |
| 05:39.58 | Wobin | pycon =) |
| 05:40.12 | Wobin | how's it going? |
| 05:42.08 | Jerub | Wobin: good. nice people here |
| 05:42.45 | NightHawkTheSane | mmm... piecon |
| 05:43.32 | NightHawkTheSane | http://i.imgur.com/waNOh.jpg |
| 05:53.22 | Wobin | damnit |
| 05:53.26 | Wobin | been at 225 mining |
| 05:53.29 | Wobin | and forgot to train |
| 05:53.44 | miica | http://pastebin.com/kfhALXtx can i make that any way shorter :D |
| 05:54.00 | Thunder_Child | Wobin: i hate that |
| 05:54.03 | miica | i could drop locals but then they are global values :/ |
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| 05:56.05 | Wobin | miica: top ten ranked in guild, whut? |
| 05:56.11 | miica | yeah :D |
| 05:56.21 | miica | notes keep DKP points :) |
| 05:56.42 | Wobin | oh |
| 05:57.00 | miica | http://github.com/miica/AngryDKP4 |
| 05:57.35 | Wobin | just run Hack |
| 05:57.40 | Wobin | and write the script in there |
| 05:57.57 | miica | i wan to add it in macro :D |
| 05:59.48 | miica | stupid that there isnt like this d = tonumber(d):0 |
| 06:00.06 | miica | if tonumber(d) is nil o false it is 0 or something |
| 06:00.41 | miica | can i use m[] = {n,d} :o |
| 06:02.24 | miica | haha i found shorter way! :) |
| 06:02.33 | miica | m[#m+1]={n,d} |
| 06:02.40 | Shirik | uh |
| 06:02.46 | Shirik | if this is Lua, you're doing it wrong |
| 06:03.14 | Shirik | but yes that's legal |
| 06:03.16 | NightHawkTheSane | no, but i think m[#m+1]={n,d} would work, as long as your using only consecutive numeric indexes |
| 06:03.30 | NightHawkTheSane | bah, you found it :P |
| 06:03.54 | NightHawkTheSane | course, shirik probably knows better, so i suggest tying him down and pumping him for information |
| 06:04.07 | Shirik | I need to eat another 2000 calories today |
| 06:04.09 | Shirik | and I'm full :( |
| 06:04.14 | Shirik | 2135 to be exact |
| 06:04.17 | NightHawkTheSane | why? |
| 06:04.20 | Wobin | http://pastebin.com/GAHWBEJp |
| 06:04.21 | NightHawkTheSane | thats a LOT of food. |
| 06:04.23 | Shirik | I know |
| 06:04.24 | Wobin | is an improvement |
| 06:04.31 | Shirik | I don't know how I went so underbudget today |
| 06:04.33 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: what do you mean by "today" |
| 06:04.38 | NightHawkTheSane | it's 11 pm where i am. |
| 06:04.43 | Shirik | it is here too |
| 06:04.48 | Wobin | omg |
| 06:04.50 | Shirik | so I have 1 hour left to eat 2000 calories! |
| 06:04.56 | Wobin | you only have 60min to salvage the day! |
| 06:04.59 | Shirik | lol |
| 06:05.03 | NightHawkTheSane | right, so you're either eating like a 3k calorie diet, or seriously didn't eat anything today |
| 06:05.06 | Wobin | GET TO NOMMING! |
| 06:05.15 | Shirik | well I really didn't have a breakfast or lunch |
| 06:05.20 | Shirik | and I burned 4000 calories |
| 06:05.23 | miica | http://pastebin.com/HXywc5v0 is there anyway to get shorter :D |
| 06:05.25 | Shirik | soo |
| 06:05.26 | Wobin | That.. could contribute to the underbudget =P |
| 06:05.50 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, start having breakfast :P |
| 06:06.06 | Wobin | http://pastebin.com/A1KxVXvf |
| 06:06.11 | miica | is it ok to use m[i].1 instead m[i][1] |
| 06:06.34 | Shirik | no |
| 06:06.41 | NightHawkTheSane | they mean entirely different things |
| 06:06.43 | Shirik | lua> tonumber("hello, world") |
| 06:06.43 | lua_bot | Shirik: nil |
| 06:06.44 | NightHawkTheSane | and i'm pretty sure the first is not legal |
| 06:07.00 | Wobin | lua> t = {3}; print(t.1) |
| 06:07.01 | lua_bot | Wobin: luabot:1: ')' expected near '.1' |
| 06:07.16 | miica | :/ |
| 06:07.17 | Wobin | lua> t = {3}; print(t[1]) |
| 06:07.17 | lua_bot | Wobin: 3 |
| 06:07.38 | Shirik | lua> loadstring[[local m={}for i=1,GetNumGuildMembers(1)do local n,_,_,_,_,_,d=GetGuildRosterInfo(i)d=tonumber(d)m[#m+1]={n,d or 0}end table.sort(m,function(a,b)return a[2]>b[2]end) for i=1,10 do print(i..":"..m[i][1].." "..m[i][2])end]] |
| 06:07.38 | lua_bot | Shirik: function: 0x94d1de8 |
| 06:08.08 | Shirik | http://pastebin.com/8aaFFw2j |
| 06:08.09 | Shirik | that should work |
| 06:08.28 | Shirik | actually I can do one better |
| 06:08.41 | miica | oh you can drop space out :P |
| 06:08.48 | NightHawkTheSane | someone here ought to run a lua golf contest for teh channel |
| 06:08.51 | Wobin | between lines |
| 06:09.01 | Shirik | lua> loadstring[[local m={}for i=1,GetNumGuildMembers(1)do local n,_,_,_,_,_,d=GetGuildRosterInfo(i)m[#m+1]={n,tonumber(d) or 0}end table.sort(m,function(a,b)return a[2]>b[2]end) for i=1,10 do print(i..":"..m[i][1].." "..m[i][2])end]] |
| 06:09.02 | lua_bot | Shirik: function: 0x8b61de8 |
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| 06:09.43 | Shirik | lua> loadstring[[local m={}for i=1,GetNumGuildMembers(1)do local n,_,_,_,_,_,d=GetGuildRosterInfo(i)m[#m+1]={n,tonumber(d)or 0}end table.sort(m,function(a,b)return a[2]>b[2]end)for i=1,10 do print(i..":"..m[i][1].." "..m[i][2])end]] |
| 06:09.44 | lua_bot | Shirik: function: 0x81c2de8 |
| 06:09.54 | Shirik | http://pastebin.com/UCrQV0a2 |
| 06:10.00 | miica | Shirik: thanks now i can post it in gchat too :P |
| 06:10.11 | Shirik | lua> #([[local m={}for i=1,GetNumGuildMembers(1)do local n,_,_,_,_,_,d=GetGuildRosterInfo(i)m[#m+1]={n,tonumber(d)or 0}end table.sort(m,function(a,b)return a[2]>b[2]end)for i=1,10 do print(i..":"..m[i][1].." "..m[i][2])end]]) |
| 06:10.12 | lua_bot | Shirik: 213 |
| 06:10.31 | miica | m[#m+1]={n,tonumber(d)or 0} :o |
| 06:10.40 | miica | didint know that |
| 06:10.42 | miica | nice one |
| 06:11.57 | Wobin | lua> print(tonumber(x)or0) |
| 06:11.58 | lua_bot | Wobin: luabot:1: ')' expected near 'or0' |
| 06:12.05 | Wobin | alas, spaces =) |
| 06:12.12 | Shirik | you can't remove every space :P |
| 06:12.16 | miica | 231/255 :P |
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| 06:23.30 | NightHawkTheSane | http://i.imgur.com/NXr19.jpg |
| 06:24.35 | miica | left dude is kinda.. |
| 06:25.25 | NightHawkTheSane | is kind of jon stewart. |
| 06:25.26 | Jerub | miica: kinda john stewart? |
| 06:25.31 | NightHawkTheSane | high fives Jerub |
| 06:25.44 | miica | :D |
| 06:26.36 | miica | lua> local i=11; print(i>10or 0); |
| 06:26.36 | lua_bot | miica: luabot:1: malformed number near '10or' |
| 06:26.43 | miica | :/ |
| 06:26.53 | jnwhiteh | In macros, is there a way to determine which mouse button was used to click the macro (in Lua, as opposed to using the [button:x] mechanism? |
| 06:26.54 | nevcairiel | add a space :p |
| 06:27.11 | miica | lua> local i=11; print(i>10 or 0); |
| 06:27.11 | lua_bot | miica: true |
| 06:27.25 | NightHawkTheSane | jnwhiteh: the same way you would in a lua script? |
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| 06:27.37 | jnwhiteh | which is |
| 06:27.38 | jnwhiteh | ? |
| 06:27.47 | jnwhiteh | is the button argument set? |
| 06:27.48 | NightHawkTheSane | ... hell if i know off the top of my head :) |
| 06:27.54 | nevcairiel | In a lua script, you would listen for the button argument to the eventh andler |
| 06:28.03 | jnwhiteh | well its passed as an argument, that's my question =) |
| 06:28.15 | nevcairiel | be wild, go try! |
| 06:28.46 | nevcairiel | i have no idea if the macro env gets those set |
| 06:29.16 | NightHawkTheSane | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetMouseButtonClicked ? |
| 06:29.20 | miica | lua> local i=8; print(i>10 or 0.."lol"); |
| 06:29.20 | lua_bot | miica: luabot:1: malformed number near '0..' |
| 06:29.30 | jnwhiteh | miica: what are you doing? |
| 06:29.44 | jnwhiteh | NightHawkTheSane: ah thanks, too early in the morning for me =) |
| 06:29.48 | miica | i want funny way to add 0 front everything under 10 :D |
| 06:29.54 | Shirik | I taught him the benefits of short-circuiting a few minutes ago |
| 06:29.59 | Shirik | and now he's abusing it :P |
| 06:30.12 | jnwhiteh | ah |
| 06:30.19 | jnwhiteh | well as long as you're here |
| 06:30.20 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 06:30.33 | Shirik | miica: `i > 10 or 0` really makes no sense |
| 06:30.48 | NightHawkTheSane | jnwhiteh: no worries. although im vaguely amused at the fact that i'm linking you api methods from a site you maintain ;) |
| 06:30.57 | Shirik | you have two different types being returned |
| 06:31.05 | Shirik | i > 10 is a boolean, 0 is a number |
| 06:31.10 | miica | :/ |
| 06:31.27 | miica | no then :(( |
| 06:32.03 | Shirik | you could do `i > 10 and tostring(i) or "0" .. tostring(i)` |
| 06:32.06 | Shirik | but that's a really bad idea |
| 06:32.29 | Shirik | the correct way to do this would be string.format("%02d", i) |
| 06:32.36 | Shirik | lua> string.format("%02d", i) |
| 06:32.36 | lua_bot | Shirik: luabot:1: bad argument #2 to 'format' (number expected, got nil) |
| 06:32.40 | Shirik | lua> i = 4; string.format("%02d", i) |
| 06:32.40 | lua_bot | Shirik: No output |
| 06:32.46 | Shirik | lua> i = 4; return string.format("%02d", i) |
| 06:32.46 | lua_bot | Shirik: 04 |
| 06:32.47 | Shirik | bah |
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| 06:35.06 | miica | :o |
| 06:35.17 | miica | so long :< |
| 06:38.30 | Shirik | complex operations are not for macros |
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| 06:48.23 | miica | is this ok local receiver,itemlink = string.match(arg1, "(.+) receives? loot: (.+)%.") or return; |
| 06:49.03 | miica | looks like not :D |
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| 07:27.07 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:27.37 | Fisker | wake up |
| 07:28.26 | airtonix | shirik is sleep-coding ? |
| 07:28.46 | Fisker | yes |
| 07:28.51 | Thunder_Child | ^ |
| 07:28.53 | Fisker | we need to destroy him |
| 07:28.58 | airtonix | shirik, how long is the Mississippi |
| 07:29.27 | Fisker | 12 characters airtonix |
| 07:29.50 | airtonix | Fisker, if i wanted a blowjob i would have gone to starbucks |
| 07:30.35 | Fisker | i will fuck you up airtonix |
| 07:31.05 | airtonix | you'll have to beat my baboons to it |
| 07:31.18 | Thunder_Child | airtonix: 2340 miles |
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| 07:48.50 | airtonix | i wonder if shirik uses xchat-festival |
| 07:49.08 | airtonix | we could program him while he sleeps |
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| 07:54.26 | Fisker | hey airtonix |
| 07:54.29 | Fisker | wanna fuck Shirik up? |
| 07:54.41 | airtonix | shirik, when you wake up |
| 07:54.58 | airtonix | you will depost 1 mellion dollars into my bank account |
| 07:55.14 | Fisker | depost? |
| 07:55.27 | airtonix | you made me type it you baboonaphile |
| 07:55.54 | airtonix | guards! |
| 07:55.58 | Fisker | yes |
| 07:55.59 | Fisker | yeeeeeeeees |
| 07:56.08 | airtonix | arrest this imposter! |
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| 08:03.45 | airtonix | thats it. im going to make a mail server gui admin thingo in gtk to rival exchange server. join me in the smoking room fisker. |
| 08:07.45 | miica | i wanna save data between sessions.. and i am not sure what i need to do :D |
| 08:08.11 | miica | i just need to add saved variables in toc? |
| 08:08.52 | miica | like if i add FOOBAR in saved variables i will just change global FOOBAR value and value i saved between sessions? |
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| 08:11.23 | Iriel | miica: Essentially yes |
| 08:12.01 | Iriel | http://www.wowwiki.com/Saving_variables_between_game_sessions |
| 08:12.28 | miica | thanks |
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| 08:23.38 | Nechckn | Shirik |
| 08:38.33 | Nechckn | Well, on the off chance you see this - in 2 hours, there is supposed to be one of the best moon eclipses visible from the west coast. Just in case your camera is hungry. ;-) |
| 08:50.19 | batrick | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrfpnbGXL70 |
| 08:50.24 | batrick | sooooooooooo epic |
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| 09:07.18 | batrick | Shirik: ^ |
| 09:08.38 | cbreak | fun. |
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| 09:29.01 | airtonix | lol |
| 09:29.06 | airtonix | "Through SOAP!" |
| 09:29.59 | miica | http://forums.curseforge.com/showpost.php?p=281860&postcount=8 dont get this |
| 09:30.02 | airtonix | Hi i'm the guy creating a fake argument to debunk the topic by proposing an alternative that is worse than the protagonist" |
| 09:30.10 | airtonix | java sucks |
| 09:30.15 | airtonix | so does .net |
| 09:32.12 | Arrowmaster | miica: dont worry, neither does he |
| 09:33.21 | miica | 3th one |
| 09:33.33 | miica | why should i reuse function tables? |
| 09:34.16 | Arrowmaster | you shouldnt |
| 09:35.15 | Arrowmaster | the example he used should NEVER ever be done unless you fully understand the exact behavior of what its going to do and why you normally wouldnt want to do that |
| 09:35.38 | Arrowmaster | which he doesnt |
| 09:36.03 | miica | kk :} |
| 09:36.35 | miica | should i use wipe or table.wipe or table = {}; |
| 09:36.54 | Arrowmaster | is it a small table? |
| 09:37.32 | miica | kinda huge |
| 09:37.34 | miica | guild roster |
| 09:37.40 | Arrowmaster | wipe might be good |
| 09:39.07 | miica | i tried to keep it small as possible |
| 09:39.14 | miica | level and rank checks etc |
| 09:42.49 | ZorbaGama | guild rosters are small. I'd just do table = {} |
| 09:46.17 | foxlit | In general, screw performance. |
| 09:51.20 | Jamash | use bubble sort |
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| 10:13.24 | Adys | Slashdot: US Shows Interest In Zombie Quarantine Code |
| 10:13.26 | Adys | Wow |
| 10:13.35 | Adys | the disappointment on click |
| 10:14.12 | foxlit | You were expecting shotguns and mall barricade plans? |
| 10:14.25 | Adys | http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/06/26/0253250/US-Shows-Interest-In-Zombie-Quarantine-Code |
| 10:14.35 | Adys | what do you think? |
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| 10:18.49 | Jamash | I was expecting Dr. McNinja |
| 10:24.42 | mikma | is there any easy way of having statusbars shrinking into other direction (from left to right instead of right to left) |
| 10:24.44 | Corrodias | let me be the first to say that i'd be ecstatic to see ISPs warn people that their computer is sending traffic that indicates it's infected, assuming they could monitor all your transmissions anyway |
| 10:25.26 | Corrodias | what is more likely is that they'll shunt people into shitville and not tell them why until they call support and go through 3 supervisors, if that happens |
| 10:26.09 | nevcairiel | whichever road they chose, just block their internet access already :P |
| 10:34.11 | Zyn | I was disappointed it was not about actual zombies :[ |
| 10:39.25 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/wow/WoWScrnShot_062610_132548.jpg - well, it's a start |
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| 11:03.59 | Fisker | what are you making mikma ? |
| 11:09.23 | miica | is there function for roll? |
| 11:10.20 | miica | sry found already |
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| 11:42.44 | Fisker | takes mikma by the collar and poof |
| 12:02.06 | ScytheBlade1 | anyone ever done some raw socket programming? prefreably under linux with C |
| 12:02.37 | Fisker | slaps ScytheBlade1 around a bit with a large trout |
| 12:02.57 | nevcairiel | A bit, its also annoying |
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| 12:03.34 | ScytheBlade1 | well so is my problem |
| 12:03.48 | ScytheBlade1 | where comcast doesn't believe me that the problem is on there end |
| 12:04.18 | nevcairiel | If you're asking now, you dont seem too sure |
| 12:04.20 | Ratness | what is this problem? |
| 12:04.29 | ScytheBlade1 | *their |
| 12:04.42 | ScytheBlade1 | problem is that I have serious intermittent connectivity issues |
| 12:04.58 | ScytheBlade1 | so I want to write something that watches a bunch of stuff from a few places at once |
| 12:05.04 | Ratness | ScytheBlade1, across mulitple devices? |
| 12:05.07 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
| 12:05.15 | ScytheBlade1 | I have multiple devices externally |
| 12:05.24 | Ratness | You have a NAT? |
| 12:05.31 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
| 12:05.41 | Ratness | Is it Linksys? |
| 12:05.45 | ScytheBlade1 | no |
| 12:05.55 | Ratness | What is it? |
| 12:06.03 | ScytheBlade1 | custom homebuilt linux embedded :p |
| 12:06.40 | Ratness | Most routers run Linux |
| 12:07.37 | ScytheBlade1 | this is true |
| 12:07.58 | ScytheBlade1 | but, again, really isn't a problem on my end |
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| 12:08.13 | Ratness | Have you disconnected the NAT? |
| 12:08.36 | ScytheBlade1 | I didn't run my current testing from behind NAT |
| 12:08.51 | ScytheBlade1 | no offense, but I know what I'm doing |
| 12:09.06 | Ratness | That's what everyone thinks lol |
| 12:09.33 | ScytheBlade1 | without a doubt |
| 12:09.57 | A-KO | ScytheBlade1: Comcast won't hear it unless you connect your PC directly to the cable modem and bypass any sort of routing |
| 12:10.15 | nevcairiel | like they can detect the difference =P |
| 12:10.16 | Ratness | scytheBlade1, you have tried that right? |
| 12:10.24 | ScytheBlade1 | yes and yes |
| 12:10.37 | A-KO | unfortunately |
| 12:10.38 | A-KO | unless you've got a business line |
| 12:10.39 | ScytheBlade1 | and nevcairiel, technically they can in the stock config, but you can tweak it |
| 12:10.40 | A-KO | and even then, they'll ask for that as a last resort |
| 12:10.49 | ScytheBlade1 | sighs |
| 12:10.52 | nevcairiel | stock config? of what? :) |
| 12:11.04 | Ratness | I have Cox not Comcast |
| 12:11.49 | ScytheBlade1 | nevcairiel: sorry, ignore that sigh, not pointed at you. TTL, the NAT device will decrease it by one by default, but you can modify it |
| 12:11.56 | nevcairiel | Basically every ISP actually gives you a router these days, at least here |
| 12:12.06 | nevcairiel | so its the intended setup |
| 12:12.39 | Ratness | My ISP does not give you a router |
| 12:12.52 | A-KO | I'll never use a consumer-based router for my home network again--ever. |
| 12:12.55 | ScytheBlade1 | curious if anyone has any tools which will monitor several IPs over a period of time and log response times/errors |
| 12:12.55 | nevcairiel | US ISPs are usually slow and suck |
| 12:13.18 | ScytheBlade1 | also it would be preferred if such a thing could be run under linux without X |
| 12:13.29 | nevcairiel | Get a linksys wrt54g and putup a custom firmware, and it rocks :) |
| 12:13.32 | Ratness | Apple's Airport routers are the best consumer targeted router you can get |
| 12:13.54 | Ratness | They are the only one |
| 12:14.05 | Ratness | They are the only one's who maintain the firmware |
| 12:15.38 | A-KO | ScytheBlade1: There are commercial apps for that, one of which is called "Host Monitor"--but I've got nothing free |
| 12:16.06 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah, that's not ideal |
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| 12:16.30 | nevcairiel | shouldnt nagios be able to do that? |
| 12:16.36 | Ratness | I would write a script |
| 12:16.40 | Ratness | A bash script |
| 12:16.47 | airtonix | that deletes your home folder |
| 12:16.53 | ScytheBlade1 | I want a little more than a bash script can do |
| 12:16.56 | ScytheBlade1 | nevcairiel: good idea |
| 12:17.06 | Ratness | Use perl or pyhtom |
| 12:17.21 | A-KO | nevcairiel: funny, I had a Linksys WRT54G v7 and it kept having problems, threw dd-wrt on it and itk ept having problems. The device would just randomly stop routing and I'd have to reboot it. Ebayed a Juniper firewall and pretty much never again had trouble, moved the dd-wrt linksys to be a WAP...I'm guessing the linksys was running out of ram.... |
| 12:17.30 | airtonix | Ratness, what makes them so good |
| 12:17.51 | nevcairiel | A-KO: the earlier models are better, i have a v3, its like the best for the custom firmware :D |
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| 12:18.01 | Ratness | They are reliable... |
| 12:18.12 | airtonix | subjective opinion |
| 12:18.16 | airtonix | give facts |
| 12:18.36 | ScytheBlade1 | nevcairiel: can the interval on nagios checks be turned down to ~5s? and can it give me a graph over time of the latency? |
| 12:18.40 | nevcairiel | although i'm getting IPTV HD in 2 month, not sure if it'll be able to handle that |
| 12:18.41 | Ratness | They support NAT-PMP, |
| 12:18.49 | airtonix | not unique |
| 12:18.50 | Ratness | THey don't support UPnP |
| 12:19.00 | Ratness | UPnP is evil |
| 12:19.05 | A-KO | nevcairiel: yeah, but for $100 on ebay I picked up a business-class device :P not much more than the cost of a consumer device :P |
| 12:19.06 | nevcairiel | You know, you can turn that off =P |
| 12:19.11 | A-KO | works GREAT |
| 12:19.14 | A-KO | I've never had to reboot it |
| 12:19.22 | airtonix | apple glazed eyes |
| 12:19.26 | A-KO | upnp is fine |
| 12:19.27 | Ratness | They don't have a web interface |
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| 12:19.41 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:19.48 | nevcairiel | that sounds annoying, you probably need some kind of apple pc to admin it? =P |
| 12:20.16 | A-KO | there's nothing wrong with unpnp--as pretty much any malware now doesn't really care about it, making reverse connections as needed :P |
| 12:20.25 | Ratness | No you need the apple airport admin app |
| 12:20.25 | airtonix | nevcairiel, <sarcasm>its good because it was made by apple</sarcasm> |
| 12:20.32 | ScytheBlade1 | upnp works great when being used as defined in the spec |
| 12:20.33 | nevcairiel | airtonix: obviously |
| 12:20.40 | Ratness | UPnP is done thru XML |
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| 12:21.12 | Ratness | It's intention is to be able to set *any* router |
| 12:21.15 | Ratness | It's intention is to be able to set *any* router's setting |
| 12:21.34 | airtonix | Ratness, when you say apple make the best routers, and i asked for reasons... i was hoping you would give specs about hardware and comparison about technical limitations compared to other brands. |
| 12:21.48 | airtonix | instead you removed all doubt |
| 12:22.02 | nevcairiel | Saying it doesn't have UPnP and therefor its better is really no argument |
| 12:22.10 | nevcairiel | Hey, my router has UPnP, but i can also turn it off! |
| 12:22.15 | nevcairiel | Clearly, thats superior |
| 12:22.42 | Ratness | You don't even know what UPnP is |
| 12:22.50 | airtonix | nevcairiel, my router allows me to superglue little plastic dolls to its surface...so mines better than yours |
| 12:23.06 | nevcairiel | oh boo |
| 12:23.23 | Ratness | airtonix, hardware is irrelvent... it's the software that runs the router that matters |
| 12:23.25 | airtonix | it also screams like a girl when the telcom guys comes |
| 12:23.39 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:24.09 | nevcairiel | If its apple software runnign the router, it can only manage one connection at a time, multitasking is hard for them, you know |
| 12:24.09 | airtonix | Ratness, yeah i have windows98 on my router |
| 12:25.14 | Ratness | GO read testimonials |
| 12:25.25 | airtonix | i have |
| 12:25.34 | nevcairiel | Apple testimonials are tainted by people with pink sunglasses |
| 12:25.34 | airtonix | thats why i use windows98 |
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| 12:26.30 | Ratness | Windows98 doesn't support UPnP either |
| 12:26.30 | A-KO | jesus |
| 12:26.31 | A-KO | wants to smack people on the wow forums |
| 12:26.31 | A-KO | a single memory leak type bug goes in to the game and everyone's using tools to hack their WoW executable |
| 12:26.31 | A-KO | OMG BLIZZARD YOU REALLY NEED TO MAKE WOW 64-BIT! ZOMG! |
| 12:26.45 | Ratness | No they don't |
| 12:26.54 | Ratness | THat would kill performance |
| 12:27.00 | airtonix | Ratness, not sure what you mean, i have Ungodly Pink n Purple just fine |
| 12:27.02 | ScytheBlade1 | whoosh |
| 12:27.06 | nevcairiel | someone in here really has no grasp for sarcasm |
| 12:28.05 | A-KO | Ratness: Hardware is extremely relevant |
| 12:28.05 | A-KO | Hardware is very, very relevant to router devices |
| 12:28.22 | Ratness | If it's running buggy software what does it matter? |
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| 12:28.30 | nevcairiel | Hardware is, however, irrelephant |
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| 12:28.41 | A-KO | am I the only one lagging? |
| 12:28.58 | airtonix | why would the hardware be "buggy" |
| 12:29.04 | Kalroth | brings out the ... vuvuzela. |
| 12:29.09 | Kalroth | BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ |
| 12:29.13 | airtonix | lulz |
| 12:29.37 | airtonix | <Riot Team to stand 4 row 8> |
| 12:29.55 | airtonix | <gaffle the guy with the trumpet> |
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| 12:37.06 | Xinhuan | watch "gandalf goes to the world cup" on youtube |
| 12:37.10 | Xinhuan | its awesome |
| 12:42.33 | A-KO | jeeze Xinhuan |
| 12:42.40 | A-KO | a buddy of mine bought one of those things, lol |
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| 12:48.31 | Xinhuan | and there's probably only 2 occasions in the world where he would actually use that thing past the world cup this year |
| 12:49.09 | airtonix | in class as a prank on the guy in front of you during end of year exams |
| 12:49.27 | airtonix | "oh dear, it looks like you just soiled yourself" |
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| 12:50.55 | Maldivia | well, unless he's of south african heritage :P |
| 12:54.24 | airtonix | then he'll be up and blowing his own horn |
| 12:54.34 | airtonix | then the brazilians will join in |
| 12:55.49 | Fisker | i killed you airtonix |
| 12:55.51 | Fisker | i watched you die |
| 12:56.03 | airtonix | that was my double |
| 12:56.36 | airtonix | i used a machine made by Nikola Tesla. |
| 12:58.20 | Fisker | not if i can stop you first |
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| 12:59.08 | airtonix | interesting. i shall get a coffee and cogitate on this. |
| 12:59.20 | airtonix | don't move |
| 12:59.29 | krka | i just toot my own lower horn instead |
| 13:00.37 | foxlit | I managed to get one data:image/png; url in my history |
| 13:00.48 | foxlit | Now if I mistype any three characters, awesomebar keeps suggesting that. |
| 13:00.54 | foxlit | morons. |
| 13:03.05 | airtonix | awesomebar is clearly not so awesome then |
| 13:05.34 | Fisker | slaps airtonix around a bit with a large trout |
| 13:05.35 | Fisker | slaps krka around a bit with a large trout |
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| 14:03.11 | Mr_Rabies | hrm, i can't seem to find a good addon for managing consumables like potions, food/water, etc |
| 14:06.20 | foxlit | Does it really need managing? |
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| 14:45.17 | airtonix | yes |
| 14:45.26 | airtonix | good drugs should be managed with prestige |
| 14:45.37 | airtonix | otherwise you're just a corner street pimp |
| 14:45.56 | airtonix | with gold in all the wrong places |
| 14:47.25 | airtonix | Mr_Rabies, select or autobar |
| 14:48.05 | Mr_Rabies | yes, foxlit, eating up all these action bars is an annoyance |
| 14:48.19 | foxlit | Why would you want to, though? |
| 14:48.42 | foxlit | Place those things on action bars. Just pick a distinct bag slot :) |
| 14:48.54 | airtonix | Mr_Rabies, i loved using autobar except that it was quiet a hog on resources...select did the same thing with much less impact |
| 14:49.26 | airtonix | Mr_Rabies, end result : i freed up alot of actionbar slots that were used for consumables |
| 14:49.37 | Mr_Rabies | that's really all i want to do |
| 14:49.46 | airtonix | Mr_Rabies, give select a go then |
| 14:49.49 | Mr_Rabies | my "consumables" section of baggins is a mess |
| 14:50.02 | foxlit | Perhaps that's at the root of the issue |
| 14:50.05 | foxlit | You're using a bag mod :P |
| 14:50.30 | airtonix | Mr_Rabies, bags should never be how you sort your gear... they should only be a method of determining how much you can carry |
| 14:51.03 | airtonix | ui turns into a fiskerdom otherwise |
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| 15:05.41 | Wobin | Fisker: http://www.teefury.com/index.php |
| 15:05.46 | Wobin | Why so serious? |
| 15:06.03 | mikma | fisker: i am making rogue timers :) http://mikma.eu/wow/WoWScrnShot_062610_135937.jpg |
| 15:07.26 | foxlit | mikma: me no like your ToT box. |
| 15:07.36 | foxlit | TotT? |
| 15:08.09 | wereHamster | mikma: is that in ironforge? |
| 15:08.15 | mikma | foxlit: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info14985-Voodoo.html |
| 15:08.17 | mikma | werehamster: yes |
| 15:08.30 | foxlit | mikma: no like! :( |
| 15:08.38 | mikma | foxlit: no can help :) |
| 15:08.54 | foxlit | Have the decency to use a self-editing macro :P |
| 15:09.14 | mikma | nope, i rather use my own addon for that job, nyah nyah nyah |
| 15:09.36 | Wobin | mikma: ... mouseover? |
| 15:09.41 | Wobin | don't you have to click the frame? |
| 15:09.47 | foxlit | You have TotT on your action bars too. Twice, even? |
| 15:09.56 | mikma | there's also a binding |
| 15:10.11 | Wobin | ah |
| 15:10.14 | mikma | foxlit: yes, in case i forget to edit the button and combat has started |
| 15:10.41 | mikma | all i have to do is selec a character and shift+click in the editbox and the name gets changed :P |
| 15:10.58 | mikma | mouseover macro would work if i would have free buttons for it |
| 15:11.07 | mikma | and, i don't ^^ |
| 15:12.22 | Xinhuan | wait what? you ran out of buttons as a rogue? |
| 15:12.33 | foxlit | mikma: fix your addon to work in combat, then :P |
| 15:12.48 | foxlit | Hm, no, wait, that wouldn't work. |
| 15:12.57 | mikma | yeah, cause you know, you can't do that |
| 15:13.11 | foxlit | Well, I could, but I'm sure they'll fix it eventually. |
| 15:13.17 | mikma | :D |
| 15:15.17 | foxlit | Hm, could actually do it without too much evilness; it'd just be a bit of a hack |
| 15:15.40 | foxlit | Does TotT pop the casting cursor if you can't cast it at your target? |
| 15:17.17 | mikma | ya |
| 15:17.29 | mikma | click it and cursor is blue |
| 15:17.46 | foxlit | So you could theoretically hook all unit frames and steal their unit on the next click. |
| 15:18.21 | foxlit | in a sort of click button - click unit frame - button now casts on that unit mechanic. Clumsy, though. |
| 15:19.50 | mikma | omglolhax |
| 15:21.53 | mikma | the most fun i've had so far is glyphed TotT + Sprint + FoK |
| 15:28.40 | mikma | xinhuan: i usually run out of buttons with anh class i play |
| 15:28.53 | Xinhuan | rogue has less than 20 spells on the entire spellbook |
| 15:28.54 | mikma | well, i should try retardin, i heard its 2 buttons |
| 15:29.00 | Xinhuan | can't even fill 3 rows |
| 15:30.16 | mikma | true, but i am talking about keyboard keys |
| 15:30.41 | mikma | 12345qwertasdfgzxcvb |
| 15:31.06 | Xinhuan | 12345 qertfgzxc can bind 30 spells easily with modifiers |
| 15:31.53 | Xinhuan | and at least 6 of the rogue spells require stealth, so :P |
| 15:31.57 | Xinhuan | those go on stealth bar |
| 15:33.28 | mikma | modifiers... eww |
| 15:33.37 | mikma | trying to bend your fingers to those buttons is living hell |
| 15:33.50 | foxlit | You're doing it wrong |
| 15:33.59 | Xinhuan | once you get used to it, its easy as heck |
| 15:34.00 | mikma | prove me doing it wrong |
| 15:34.04 | foxlit | Hold palm of hand over the shift-ctrl-alt block |
| 15:34.27 | Xinhuan | when i press ctrl, for example, the part of my hand holding it down is the 3rd segemnt of my pinky finger |
| 15:34.31 | foxlit | Can easily reach the number keys and don't have to move fingers to press ctrl |
| 15:35.00 | Xinhuan | segment* |
| 15:35.01 | mikma | exactly how long are your fingers |
| 15:35.04 | foxlit | Though looking at it now, perhaps I should bind 1-F2-F3-4 |
| 15:35.09 | Xinhuan | not that long |
| 15:35.10 | mikma | cause, lenght of my normal fingers is not enough :D |
| 15:35.27 | Xinhuan | my pinky is 6 cm long according to this ruler |
| 15:35.38 | foxlit | I'm waiting for someone to enter the room before I answer that question. |
| 15:35.43 | mikma | you have a ruler next to your monitor? how kinky |
| 15:35.58 | Xinhuan | yeah i have quite a bunch of stationary next to my pc |
| 15:36.06 | Xinhuan | including pencils, erasers, rulers, staplers |
| 15:36.18 | mikma | pliers, sugarcubes |
| 15:36.19 | foxlit | Some notepads |
| 15:36.24 | foxlit | whiteboard markers |
| 15:36.29 | Xinhuan | scissors, pliers, screwdrivers too |
| 15:36.36 | foxlit | I should totally move the stack of Dr. Who dvds,though |
| 15:36.38 | Xinhuan | for the days i need to open my PC casing |
| 15:36.47 | mikma | i usually have a bunch of unpaid bills + my nokia n810 :P nothing else |
| 15:37.15 | foxlit | oh, I actually have a compass -- the drawing instrument, that is. |
| 15:37.30 | Xinhuan | did you mean a protractor? |
| 15:37.38 | Xinhuan | or the actual angled tool for drawing circles |
| 15:37.44 | foxlit | No, a protractor measures angles |
| 15:38.02 | foxlit | http://www.mathsisfun.com/definitions/images/compass-drawing.gif |
| 15:38.32 | Xinhuan | i don't have a compass nearby, but i'm sure there's one in my room hidden in a cupboard hehe |
| 15:38.52 | foxlit | There aren't nearly enough excuses to use those |
| 15:39.18 | foxlit | Though it did win me a t-shirt <3 |
| 15:39.37 | Xinhuan | zz chance of fishing a turtle mount: 1/10000 |
| 15:39.49 | Xinhuan | after fishing 3000 fish, chance of fishing a turtle mount: 1/10000 |
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| 15:40.01 | foxlit | Is it really that low? |
| 15:40.05 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 15:40.15 | foxlit | Did they publish numbers somewhere? |
| 15:40.27 | Xinhuan | nope, its an estimate based on wowhead and el-angling's |
| 15:40.28 | foxlit | [Don't think wowhead et al can track whether you're fishing in a pool] |
| 15:40.37 | Xinhuan | on posted comments |
| 15:40.45 | Xinhuan | catches varies from 5k to 15k |
| 15:40.53 | Xinhuan | and a few lucky ones that catch before 3k |
| 15:41.09 | mikma | why do you want that anyway |
| 15:41.19 | Xinhuan | 10 nerd points |
| 15:41.25 | foxlit | I'm hesitant to declare you can actually estimate it that way |
| 15:41.30 | mikma | oh, ok |
| 15:41.46 | Xinhuan | well its certainly an estimate |
| 15:41.54 | Xinhuan | just that it isn't likely to be accurate |
| 15:42.38 | Xinhuan | but its about there |
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| 16:21.42 | A-KO | I think this cat has severe attachment issues |
| 16:22.54 | mikma | well use joe then |
| 16:41.13 | Xinhuan | a guild member just got hacked, and got his account back 4 hours ago |
| 16:41.20 | Xinhuan | the blizz guy told him not to use curse client |
| 16:41.39 | Xinhuan | because it uses P2P and its not safe (the blizz gyu meaning the guy on the phone) |
| 16:43.09 | Arrowmaster | did he get some kinda thing on giving feedback on the service he received? |
| 16:43.24 | Xinhuan | no idea |
| 16:43.36 | Xinhuan | i mean, he called blizz on phone to get his account back |
| 16:43.42 | Xinhuan | and that's what the guy on the phone told him |
| 16:44.11 | Arrowmaster | right, maybe he will get an email about a feedback survey or something |
| 16:44.18 | mikma | curse is bad |
| 16:44.20 | Shirik | ok, google is failing me |
| 16:44.21 | mikma | we all know |
| 16:44.27 | Shirik | does anyone know what the hell "taylor code 200" is? |
| 16:44.43 | Shirik | or just taylor codes in general |
| 16:44.44 | mikma | something to do with fight club |
| 16:44.56 | Shirik | ._. no |
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| 16:51.01 | Jamash | glorfu |
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| 17:00.09 | Jamash | Does WoW use UTF-8 for lua files? |
| 17:00.25 | cogwheel | it interprets strings as utf-8, yes |
| 17:00.36 | Jamash | ok cool |
| 17:00.49 | Jamash | I'm adding korean strings to Learning Aid |
| 17:01.32 | airtonix | i fished a turtle mount about a month after it was introduced... a week later i quit wow. |
| 17:03.29 | cogwheel | hmm... two of my major annoyances about linux have disappeared in the last couple years. Fonts look MUCH better thanks to expired apple patents. And it appears read/write NTFS support is out of beta |
| 17:03.55 | cogwheel | too bad i have an ati card >< |
| 17:04.02 | airtonix | lol |
| 17:04.06 | airtonix | woe is you |
| 17:04.18 | airtonix | for you art fucked |
| 17:04.23 | Wobin | Shirik: Based on the research done by the National Institute on Health and the Taylor Code (an estimate of energy expenditure during exercise), you can burn between 300-600 calories per hour during resistance training and 200-500 calories per hour during cardio exercise. |
| 17:04.34 | Wobin | that's about all I can discover |
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| 17:04.57 | Shirik | that's actually useful |
| 17:04.58 | Shirik | thanks |
| 17:05.03 | Jamash | how many calories do you burn playing wow? |
| 17:05.40 | airtonix | cogwheel, based on the experience with getting decent performance out of an ati card my friend decided to sell his (ownge only in windows) ati card so he can buy a (ownge regardless of operating system) nvidia card |
| 17:05.45 | cogwheel | if i had a beefier power supply, i'd put my nvidia 7900gs in the other pci-e x16 slot |
| 17:06.12 | Shirik | video games/computer, involving typing |
| 17:06.18 | Shirik | 1.94 calories per minute |
| 17:06.28 | Wobin | maybe more for pvp =) |
| 17:06.34 | Shirik | or if you're a tank |
| 17:06.38 | airtonix | what about when sleeping ? |
| 17:06.47 | airtonix | (since shirik dos wierd shit in his sleep) |
| 17:07.03 | Shirik | sleeping/computer, involving typing |
| 17:07.06 | Shirik | :) |
| 17:07.13 | airtonix | i see |
| 17:07.18 | Wobin | I find tanking relaxing |
| 17:07.19 | airtonix | you sat on your iphone didnt you ? |
| 17:07.31 | Shirik | I have no iphone! |
| 17:07.33 | Shirik | apple is evil |
| 17:07.34 | Shirik | ! |
| 17:07.35 | airtonix | you kinky bastard |
| 17:07.43 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: says the person buying an ipod? :P |
| 17:07.49 | Shirik | Wobin: smashing your face against a keyboard is relaxing? |
| 17:07.52 | Shirik | NightHawkTheSane: I know, it was quite painful |
| 17:07.58 | Jamash | he tanks with a druid |
| 17:07.59 | Shirik | but I have to admit it was worth it |
| 17:08.03 | cogwheel | airtonix: i can't even get the drivers to run both monitors at their (differing) native resolutions. It recognizes that my larger one can do 1920x1200 but the max choice is 1700-something by 1000 |
| 17:08.05 | Jamash | 3 3 3 3 3 1 3 3 3 3 3 |
| 17:08.06 | Shirik | also, the armband idea was great |
| 17:08.07 | Wobin | I have a warrior tank! =) |
| 17:08.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: good to hear :) |
| 17:08.18 | airtonix | Another Terrible Insight |
| 17:08.19 | Shirik | that being said, I have no idea how the hell anyone could possibly use an ipod touch armband |
| 17:08.24 | Wobin | Smashing my face against a keyboard would be a pally tank |
| 17:08.37 | Wobin | Shirik: I've seen it in use |
| 17:08.38 | Shirik | even the nano is a little bit in the way, but not enough for me to care |
| 17:08.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: yeah that was a bit odd |
| 17:08.53 | Wobin | but yeah, the touch is a tad bulky |
| 17:08.58 | Wobin | maybe you need bigger arms! |
| 17:09.00 | airtonix | A Tarisian Insult |
| 17:09.02 | Shirik | I do! |
| 17:09.04 | Shirik | That's why I'm working out |
| 17:09.09 | Jamash | get the shuffle, you can have it permanently installed in your skull |
| 17:09.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: ever figure out your permissions issue? |
| 17:09.21 | Shirik | nope! |
| 17:09.22 | airtonix | Lando Tarisian sounds like the name of a pimp. |
| 17:09.32 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1 It actually says I have "full control" under effective permissions |
| 17:09.36 | airtonix | or a car salesman |
| 17:09.37 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 17:09.45 | ScytheBlade1 | check the share permissions? |
| 17:09.49 | Wobin | or the owner of a space port? |
| 17:09.50 | Shirik | what is that? |
| 17:09.50 | Jamash | or a star wars character misspelled? |
| 17:09.59 | airtonix | i deny it |
| 17:10.07 | Shirik | you mean like if multiple people have it open at once? |
| 17:10.11 | ScytheBlade1 | when you have a share |
| 17:10.11 | ScytheBlade1 | you have two ACLs |
| 17:10.23 | ScytheBlade1 | filesystem, aka ntfs |
| 17:10.28 | ScytheBlade1 | and share-level |
| 17:10.32 | Shirik | how would I access it? |
| 17:10.35 | Wobin | warrior tanking so far is Thunderclap/Cleave/Revenge/repeat |
| 17:10.38 | airtonix | doesnt the ipod use FAT32 ? |
| 17:10.39 | Jamash | is the shuffle intentionally designed to look like a cigarette lighter? |
| 17:10.41 | ScytheBlade1 | you can share the same dir twice under different names |
| 17:10.42 | Shirik | would I have to actually go to that computer? |
| 17:10.47 | ScytheBlade1 | with a different ACL |
| 17:10.50 | ScytheBlade1 | no |
| 17:10.56 | ScytheBlade1 | well, yes, the host |
| 17:11.01 | Wobin | with shield bash thrown in for interest |
| 17:11.14 | ScytheBlade1 | use mmc, add the shared folders snapin, connect to the server |
| 17:11.23 | Shirik | ok |
| 17:11.28 | Shirik | I will have to do this on monday |
| 17:11.28 | ScytheBlade1 | check out the share ac@l |
| 17:11.33 | ScytheBlade1 | *acl |
| 17:11.34 | Wobin | single target is Devestate/ShieldBash/Revenge |
| 17:11.37 | Jamash | NTFS is the devil incarnate |
| 17:11.46 | ScytheBlade1 | lies |
| 17:11.48 | ScytheBlade1 | @ Jamash |
| 17:11.52 | airtonix | inb4 heresy |
| 17:11.56 | airtonix | fuuuu |
| 17:12.00 | Wobin | Isn't that ReiserFS? =) |
| 17:12.01 | ScytheBlade1 | =) |
| 17:12.14 | Jamash | ololololol it's funny because he murdered his wife |
| 17:12.25 | Wobin | Too soon? |
| 17:12.25 | airtonix | no thats SawBoxManCollectorFS |
| 17:12.35 | Jamash | JigsawFS |
| 17:12.56 | Shirik | I'm going to make a ShirikFS |
| 17:13.04 | airtonix | HumanCentipedeFS |
| 17:13.05 | Jamash | In order to access your files you have to saw off your hand |
| 17:13.07 | cogwheel | and then murder your wife? |
| 17:13.12 | Shirik | yes |
| 17:13.15 | Shirik | to both |
| 17:13.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: you can check your local machine share permissions to get an idea of what needs doing |
| 17:13.25 | Jamash | are you married, Shirik? |
| 17:13.31 | Shirik | lol no |
| 17:13.31 | airtonix | he is |
| 17:13.35 | airtonix | to himself |
| 17:13.39 | ScytheBlade1 | he is.. to his lua |
| 17:13.42 | Shirik | I expected to his computer |
| 17:13.44 | ScytheBlade1 | ohohoh |
| 17:13.46 | Jamash | so, murder wife = saw off your hand? |
| 17:13.58 | Shirik | ...... |
| 17:14.01 | ScytheBlade1 | </fisker> |
| 17:14.05 | Jamash | I try |
| 17:14.36 | airtonix | <answering-machine@fiskershouse> Sorry fisker is unavailable at the moment, but if you leave a message.... |
| 17:14.56 | Jamash | ...fisker will have sex with your mom at his earliest opportunity. |
| 17:15.07 | ScytheBlade1 | there it is |
| 17:15.48 | airtonix | anyone seen "Prestige" ? |
| 17:16.23 | |Jelly| | the movie? |
| 17:16.37 | airtonix | yes |
| 17:16.47 | |Jelly| | Yup |
| 17:16.49 | airtonix | it went right under my radar |
| 17:16.54 | airtonix | saw it last night |
| 17:17.15 | |Jelly| | Pretty good movie, IMO |
| 17:17.30 | Jamash | is that the one where christian bale plays a crazy dude? |
| 17:17.36 | airtonix | indeed |
| 17:17.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Jamash: cause that narrows it down |
| 17:17.50 | ScytheBlade1 | so glad that I rooted my droid |
| 17:17.50 | airtonix | lots of crazy dudes in it |
| 17:17.56 | airtonix | but he is in it |
| 17:17.58 | Jamash | NightHawkTheSane: indeed |
| 17:18.52 | Jamash | has he ever played a sane character? |
| 17:19.52 | airtonix | it's about stage magicians that try to out perform each other with the ultimate 'trick' around when nikola tesla was still alive. |
| 17:19.52 | airtonix | i dont think so |
| 17:19.56 | Jamash | the ultimate trick turns out to be sawing his wife in half and he actually does omgwtfbbq |
| 17:20.01 | ScytheBlade1 | vzw is more stable than comcast right now |
| 17:20.17 | ScytheBlade1 | never thought I would say that, but it is true |
| 17:20.29 | Jamash | comcast is also the devil incarnate |
| 17:20.53 | ScytheBlade1 | vzw is their wireless equal |
| 17:20.55 | Jamash | ah |
| 17:21.04 | ScytheBlade1 | I have no good options |
| 17:21.24 | Jamash | I hate to say it but AT&T is fairly good in my experience |
| 17:21.26 | NightHawkTheSane | there generally are no good options in the us. |
| 17:21.35 | Jamash | but I don't use 3G or anything |
| 17:21.52 | Jamash | I have a phone that 1. makes calls and 2. receives calls |
| 17:22.20 | ScytheBlade1 | If I moved cities, I'd have municipal fiber with multiple ISPs offeri g me 50mbit symmetric connections |
| 17:22.24 | ScytheBlade1 | for $50/mo |
| 17:22.35 | ScytheBlade1 | brb, moving |
| 17:22.36 | ScytheBlade1 | :( |
| 17:23.11 | Jamash | I want 50mbit |
| 17:23.14 | Jamash | I have 3 atm |
| 17:23.43 | Jamash | ScytheBlade1: wait for google to install 1gbit somewhere in the US and move there |
| 17:24.01 | ScytheBlade1 | we already have the fiber in place |
| 17:24.06 | ScytheBlade1 | (really) |
| 17:24.20 | ScytheBlade1 | if google comes here, they will simply light it up |
| 17:24.22 | ScytheBlade1 | done deal |
| 17:25.17 | airtonix | sigh, australian capital cities STILL don't have fibre attached from the exchanges to our houses... only new development estates get this by default... |
| 17:25.31 | airtonix | best we have is naked DSL |
| 17:25.49 | foxlit | citi...es? |
| 17:26.52 | ScytheBlade1 | the mayor of my city hates fiber though. he thinks that wireless is going to obliterate all wired technologies, and likewise doesn't want to spend any money to lay fiber |
| 17:26.58 | ScytheBlade1 | shakes his fist in anger |
| 17:28.05 | Thunder_Child | it will |
| 17:28.10 | Thunder_Child | just not as soon as he thinks |
| 17:28.33 | NightHawkTheSane | i'd be surprised if it happens in our lifetimes. |
| 17:28.35 | airtonix | plural of city ? |
| 17:28.42 | cogwheel | wireless probably will never be as fast as the contemporaneous wired connections |
| 17:28.45 | NightHawkTheSane | airtonix: cities. |
| 17:28.49 | cogwheel | it's really ridiculous |
| 17:28.51 | Arrowmaster | it never will, its not possible |
| 17:29.02 | ScytheBlade1 | he's also a fossil, and has seen things go from "whoa television" to phone lines to DSL to cable to etc and seen every one of them be obseleted |
| 17:29.07 | NightHawkTheSane | cogwheel: well, maybe if we discover subspace technology :P |
| 17:29.08 | Thunder_Child | i'm sure they said that about cell phones when theu first came out..... |
| 17:29.10 | airtonix | thats what i typed |
| 17:29.14 | Thunder_Child | they* |
| 17:29.18 | ScytheBlade1 | so he is probably right in saying that sooner or later fiber will suck, but he lacks perspective |
| 17:29.19 | Jamash | I wonder if wimax will turn out well |
| 17:29.21 | cogwheel | NightHawkTheSane: hence "probably" |
| 17:29.22 | cogwheel | ;) |
| 17:29.30 | NightHawkTheSane | :) |
| 17:29.37 | foxlit | airtonix: the trick was that you prefixed with capital |
| 17:29.39 | Arrowmaster | there is a limited amount of radio/microwave frequencies so all wireless technology is limited compared to wired |
| 17:29.58 | foxlit | Which there tends to be only one of. |
| 17:30.02 | Thunder_Child | till they find some way around that |
| 17:30.13 | cogwheel | NightHawkTheSane: my usage of qualifiers could put some lawyers to shame ;) |
| 17:30.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: even if tehre weren't, we still haven't goten ftl communication working yet, so there's that hard limit :P |
| 17:30.36 | Arrowmaster | ftl communication isnt possible |
| 17:30.38 | NightHawkTheSane | there*, gotten*, jesus i suck this morning. |
| 17:30.50 | Thunder_Child | actually it might be |
| 17:31.04 | foxlit | Is time travel possible? |
| 17:31.09 | airtonix | yes |
| 17:31.10 | Jamash | no |
| 17:31.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: I'm not going to speculate on that, I'm just saying that without it, there's a very real cap on any kind of communication technology. |
| 17:31.21 | Jamash | well, yes, but only in one direction |
| 17:31.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Jamash: and very slowly? :P |
| 17:31.32 | Thunder_Child | depends on whoes deffinition of grand theories you ask |
| 17:31.41 | foxlit | The direction you're thinking of is generally not implied by the term time travel. |
| 17:31.54 | Jamash | NightHawkTheSane: it's not slow at all, we're travelling through time at exactly c |
| 17:32.12 | foxlit | through time in meters per second? |
| 17:32.12 | Jamash | s/time/spacetime/ |
| 17:32.20 | Jamash | yes |
| 17:32.21 | Arrowmaster | everything ive read about quantum theory has said that it requires a normal communication method too so its limited by that |
| 17:32.23 | Fisker | slaps foxlit around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:32.24 | Fisker | slaps cog|away around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:32.37 | Jamash | You can (and physicists do) reduce all units to centimeters |
| 17:32.59 | Jamash | or you can use Planck units |
| 17:33.04 | foxlit | Kind of a meh statement. |
| 17:33.11 | ScytheBlade1 | So is anyone else wishing that this next month would just go away, so they can get their hands on some shiny shiny SC2? |
| 17:33.21 | Jamash | next month has my birthday in it so no |
| 17:33.27 | ScytheBlade1 | booo |
| 17:33.28 | airtonix | or that SC2 will just go away ? |
| 17:33.29 | ScytheBlade1 | you don't coun |
| 17:33.31 | ScytheBlade1 | t |
| 17:33.33 | Jamash | 1 2 3 4 |
| 17:33.50 | nevcairiel | seriously, july has to stay |
| 17:33.53 | nevcairiel | august can go |
| 17:33.57 | Jamash | sure |
| 17:34.06 | Arrowmaster | at least with fiber, if its quality fiber you will never be limited by the fiber itself, just the transmitter and receiver so you can just upgrade those in the future to increase throughput |
| 17:34.21 | Jamash | they're up to what, 1000 concurrent frequencies per fiber? |
| 17:34.34 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm sure that sooner or later that fiber will have to be replaced |
| 17:35.22 | Arrowmaster | we've been using fiber for decades with no better theoretical alternative that i know of, i doubt that |
| 17:35.28 | ScytheBlade1 | but it would still be worth the money in the long haul |
| 17:35.46 | ScytheBlade1 | give it a few centuries, I'm sure it'll be gone by then |
| 17:35.54 | ScytheBlade1 | if replaced with nothing other than better fiber |
| 17:35.59 | Jamash | I expect the Singularity within 100 years |
| 17:36.04 | Jamash | so we |
| 17:36.15 | Jamash | we'll all be luminous creatures of pure energy or whatever |
| 17:36.26 | nevcairiel | i dont plan to love in 100 years |
| 17:36.30 | nevcairiel | live* |
| 17:36.32 | A-KO | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXPPyjtw5WU |
| 17:36.33 | A-KO | ^ LOL |
| 17:36.41 | ScytheBlade1 | you mean we'll learn to ascend, in ways similar to the Stargate series? |
| 17:36.48 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: quantum states with paired bits |
| 17:36.48 | airtonix | http://www.psfk.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Mousetrap-Stands-Upright-To-Indicate-Its-Catch.jpg |
| 17:36.50 | ScytheBlade1 | WILL OUR MINDS TO CONVERT OUR BODIES TO PURE ENERGY? |
| 17:36.52 | Jamash | ScytheBlade1: sure why not |
| 17:37.15 | nevcairiel | airtonix: hah, awesome |
| 17:37.21 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: i do, i want my head in a jar futurama style |
| 17:37.23 | Jamash | I was thinking more of a technological means... |
| 17:37.25 | ScytheBlade1 | rofl @ that video |
| 17:37.28 | ScytheBlade1 | hahahaha |
| 17:37.57 | A-KO | it's great isn't it ScytheBlade1? lol |
| 17:38.03 | ScytheBlade1 | that's amazing |
| 17:38.28 | Jamash | god damn it |
| 17:38.40 | Jamash | see that's the problem with vuvuzelas, they have unlimited ammo |
| 17:38.47 | A-KO | lol |
| 17:38.49 | Jamash | clearly a balance issue that needs to be patched |
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| 17:39.11 | A-KO | have to hand it to South Africa |
| 17:39.12 | airtonix | someone explain this to me : http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/2623/1277477480603.jpg |
| 17:39.23 | A-KO | they have made this World Cup far more interesting to people in the US than previous ones :P |
| 17:39.33 | Jamash | there's an issue with iphone 4 where it loses signal while a person is holding it |
| 17:39.41 | nevcairiel | airtonix: the iphone4 only has reception if you hold it a certain way :P |
| 17:39.47 | A-KO | eh |
| 17:39.56 | A-KO | so far on my iphone 4 it doesn't lose the call |
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| 17:39.58 | A-KO | but the bars do drop :P |
| 17:40.05 | A-KO | but call quality is fine |
| 17:40.13 | airtonix | aha! |
| 17:40.13 | Arrowmaster | hold it in your left hand |
| 17:40.14 | Jamash | http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/24/apple-responds-over-iphone-4-reception-issues-youre-holding-th/ |
| 17:40.14 | A-KO | I've tested and tested and tested, showed people |
| 17:40.17 | A-KO | yes Arrowmaster |
| 17:40.19 | A-KO | I'm well aware |
| 17:40.21 | airtonix | why so apple a-ko ? |
| 17:40.21 | A-KO | is left-handed |
| 17:40.30 | Jamash | left-handed-high-5 |
| 17:40.38 | nevcairiel | apple: hold different |
| 17:40.41 | ScytheBlade1 | is really debating impulse-buying a laptop |
| 17:40.54 | airtonix | with who ? |
| 17:41.05 | Jamash | ScytheBlade1: what's your budget range? |
| 17:41.11 | Jamash | A-KO |
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| 17:41.17 | nevcairiel | And i though impulse-buying would not include the debating part |
| 17:41.20 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1: is it really an impulse if you are debating? |
| 17:41.21 | nevcairiel | thought* |
| 17:41.27 | A-KO | I impulse bought a car |
| 17:41.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Right now, I have a full time job and a $100/mo in bills total, so....... |
| 17:41.34 | A-KO | god that's it? |
| 17:41.37 | A-KO | :( |
| 17:41.42 | A-KO | I wish I had that little in bills |
| 17:41.44 | ScytheBlade1 | $80 of that is a cell phone |
| 17:41.52 | A-KO | I live at home and probably pay as much if not more than people I know living alone |
| 17:41.54 | Jamash | I impulse bought an island |
| 17:41.57 | A-KO | which should probably tell me something |
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| 17:42.01 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
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| 17:42.12 | nevcairiel | yeah: Don't get our own place, it'll ruin you |
| 17:42.17 | nevcairiel | your* |
| 17:42.20 | Arrowmaster | i have no monthly bills |
| 17:42.20 | nevcairiel | man whats with my typing today |
| 17:42.28 | Arrowmaster | but i also have no monthly income |
| 17:42.34 | ScytheBlade1 | pretty sure I want to get my own place in the very near future |
| 17:42.36 | A-KO | I just got slammed with the cable bill, in addition to the other bills....in addition to just paying to upkeep the house that my parents refuse to do |
| 17:42.45 | Jamash | I think my eardrum ruptured yesterday |
| 17:43.31 | Cloudwolf | thats why i don't use earbuds |
| 17:43.38 | Jamash | I had an ear infection |
| 17:43.48 | Jamash | I lost my earbuds a month ago |
| 17:43.53 | Jamash | so I don't think that's it |
| 17:43.58 | Cloudwolf | That sucks still i don't use earbuds those can mess up your ears. |
| 17:44.07 | A-KO | as long as you're not retarded |
| 17:44.09 | A-KO | you'll be fine with them |
| 17:44.12 | Jamash | ^ |
| 17:44.22 | A-KO | it's in fact probably better for you than using ear-encasing noise-cancelling headphones :P |
| 17:44.25 | A-KO | or probably not much worse |
| 17:44.32 | Cloudwolf | A-KO i understand that doesn't mean the majority of people arn't retarded with them. |
| 17:44.40 | ScytheBlade1 | open-air ear-encasing headphones are amazing though |
| 17:44.47 | ScytheBlade1 | the enclosed noise-canceling ones can suck |
| 17:44.54 | Jamash | what does open air ear encasing mean? |
| 17:44.58 | Jamash | open yet closed? |
| 17:45.00 | A-KO | ScytheBlade1: I generally don't like how they feel on my head |
| 17:45.20 | A-KO | many of the "good ones" start squeezing on my head... |
| 17:45.44 | Jamash | I like earbuds mainly because they're easily portable and they don't break if I sit on them |
| 17:46.13 | Jamash | BUT I need a new microphone for ventrilo so I'm considering getting a headset |
| 17:46.19 | ScytheBlade1 | A-KO: you don't have the right ones then. I may be a bit of a fanboy, but the right sennheiser headsets, you stop noticing they exist after about 30 seconds |
| 17:46.21 | Cloudwolf | iv'e been using my headphones for like 5 years and i don't even notice thatm i wearing them |
| 17:46.27 | ScytheBlade1 | I know a guy who didn't really like headphones |
| 17:46.41 | ScytheBlade1 | bought a decent pair from sennheiser as per my recommendation |
| 17:46.41 | Jamash | tell me what headset to buy for listening to music, playing games and talking on vent |
| 17:46.44 | Jamash | internet go |
| 17:46.54 | ScytheBlade1 | forgot he was wearing them, stood up and ripped them off his head |
| 17:46.55 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 17:46.57 | A-KO | Is it just me |
| 17:47.06 | Jamash | yes |
| 17:47.06 | A-KO | or is buying bose ear buds for an iphone kind of not worth the $? |
| 17:47.15 | ScytheBlade1 | buying bose isn't worth it :/ |
| 17:47.21 | ScytheBlade1 | no highs, no lows, GOTTA BE BOSE |
| 17:47.29 | Jamash | sennheiser is the shizzle |
| 17:47.30 | airtonix | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwfkDZSLPt8 |
| 17:47.48 | A-KO | http://www.bose.com/controller?url=/shop_online/headphones/mobile_solutions/in_ear_mobile_solution/index.jsp |
| 17:47.49 | A-KO | lol |
| 17:47.56 | Tuller | the only bad thing about the steam sale? its taking me much longer than it should to download the witcher |
| 17:48.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Tuller: that and your credit card. that's a bad thing. |
| 17:48.12 | Jamash | fifteen thousand dollar watch |
| 17:48.13 | Thunder_Child | it comes with the price |
| 17:48.17 | airtonix | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIbl1S2Fyig |
| 17:48.23 | Thunder_Child | besides, you dont want that game |
| 17:48.42 | Jamash | what game you buying Tuller? |
| 17:48.52 | Thunder_Child | he just said |
| 17:49.13 | Tuller | I bought the witcher, since it was on my list, waiting to see if say things I actually want from the THQ jamber drop, and hopefully a cheaper borderlands dance |
| 17:49.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Jamash: again, I'm biased here, but http://www.sennheiserusa.com/professional_headphones-headsets_professional-headsets |
| 17:49.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Jamash: any of those |
| 17:49.42 | Jamash | um, do any of those cost less than $100? |
| 17:49.52 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm sure some of them do |
| 17:50.04 | ScytheBlade1 | though I dropped $300 on these headphones and use a $10 deskop mic |
| 17:50.06 | ScytheBlade1 | so yeah |
| 17:50.08 | Jamash | MSRP: $1,071.00 ;_; |
| 17:50.22 | Shirik | I love my xbox headphones |
| 17:50.26 | Shirik | one of the best purchases I ever made |
| 17:50.49 | Shirik | 7.1 surround makes it SO much easier to play halo |
| 17:50.50 | Jamash | do they work with a PC? |
| 17:50.50 | Shirik | like |
| 17:50.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Jamash: wrong link, try t pa |
| 17:50.58 | A-KO | http://www.sennheiserusa.com/private_headphones_earbuds-and-ear-canal-headphones_sound-fashion-fun_502870 < $260 for earbuds? |
| 17:50.59 | Shirik | I imagine they would if your PC has optical out |
| 17:51.00 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.sennheiserusa.com/private_headsets_pc |
| 17:51.01 | A-KO | are you fucking serious? |
| 17:51.03 | ScytheBlade1 | those |
| 17:51.08 | Shirik | it just uses optical connection |
| 17:51.18 | Shirik | my laptop doesn't have optical out so I can't |
| 17:51.26 | Jamash | I think I have optical out |
| 17:51.33 | nevcairiel | optical connections dont support 7.1, on a pc anyway |
| 17:51.41 | Jamash | yeah, spdif |
| 17:51.46 | Shirik | huh |
| 17:51.49 | Shirik | then how do they do 7.1 |
| 17:51.50 | Arrowmaster | neither do they on the xbox |
| 17:51.55 | nevcairiel | its basically just 2.0 PCM, or 5.1 AC3 |
| 17:51.57 | ScytheBlade1 | A-KO: 16-23000 Hz at <0.1% THD on earbuds? that's nuts |
| 17:52.20 | A-KO | dude |
| 17:52.21 | A-KO | ScytheBlade1 |
| 17:52.26 | A-KO | those earbuds cost more than my iphone |
| 17:52.28 | A-KO | that's....insane |
| 17:52.32 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: TurtleBeach disagrees |
| 17:52.39 | ScytheBlade1 | you should see some of the TRUE audiophile *cables* |
| 17:52.48 | ScytheBlade1 | you can drop >$1k on a 3ft piece of copper |
| 17:52.52 | Tuller | well, even the cheaper sennheiser's are quite good |
| 17:52.57 | A-KO | Denon makes a $500 ethernet cable |
| 17:53.12 | ScytheBlade1 | it's true, but that is also a joke |
| 17:53.13 | Jamash | lol |
| 17:53.36 | nevcairiel | is it made completly out of gold? |
| 17:53.37 | Jamash | it gives your bits a shiatsu massage on the way from point a to point b |
| 17:53.51 | A-KO | Jamash: lol, actually, the literature says it has directional markings for optimum signal transfer |
| 17:53.56 | Jamash | hahahahahaha |
| 17:53.59 | Shirik | nevcairiel: |
| 17:54.04 | Jamash | A-KO seriously? |
| 17:54.07 | A-KO | yes |
| 17:54.14 | ScytheBlade1 | yes seriously |
| 17:54.16 | Jamash | that's the dumbest thing |
| 17:54.19 | ScytheBlade1 | that cable is greatly amusing |
| 17:54.25 | ScytheBlade1 | the amazon reviews are amazing |
| 17:54.27 | A-KO | http://www.usa.denon.com/productdetails/3429.asp |
| 17:54.29 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: afaik prototype was the only game on the xbox360 to have 7.1, everything else has 5.1, prototype did it by using the dolby digital matrix method of encoding 4 channels of audio into 2 audio channels in combination with 5.1, it was really only 5.1 but supposedly an audio receiver could decode the 5.1 signal into 7.1 |
| 17:54.36 | Shirik | oh |
| 17:54.38 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=amazon+$500+ethernet+cable |
| 17:54.39 | Shirik | I don't know if the game supports it |
| 17:54.50 | nevcairiel | ew, dd-matrix is evil |
| 17:54.54 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: the xbox360 is not capable of outputing true 7.1 |
| 17:54.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Transmission of music data at rates faster than the speed of light seemed convenient, until I realized I was hearing the music before I actually wanted to play it. Apparently Denon forgot how accustomed most of us are to unidirectional time and the general laws of physics. I tried to get used to this effect but hearing songs play before I even realized I was in the mood for them just really screwed up my preconceptions of choice and free will. |
| 17:55.00 | nevcairiel | DD already has really low bitrate |
| 17:55.06 | nevcairiel | losing even more of that, is just evil |
| 17:55.14 | Shirik | that doesn't make much sense |
| 17:55.14 | Jamash | hee hee |
| 17:55.40 | Jamash | so yeah GigE transmits in both directions simultaneously |
| 17:55.47 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: There is a game that claims to support 7.1 |
| 17:55.54 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: actually afaik its not even possible to do 7.1 with anything other than an hdmi connection, everything ive seen seems to limit toslink and spdif to 5.1 |
| 17:56.02 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: yes, prototype |
| 17:56.02 | nevcairiel | Its true |
| 17:56.07 | Shirik | no |
| 17:56.20 | nevcairiel | spdif optical or coaxial is really low bandwidth |
| 17:56.26 | Shirik | splinter cell: pandora tomorrow |
| 17:56.33 | nevcairiel | it maxes out at 5.1 AC3 |
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| 17:56.41 | nevcairiel | or uncompressed stereo |
| 17:56.52 | Jamash | splinter cell: pancake factory |
| 17:56.58 | Shirik | Ok |
| 17:57.16 | Shirik | I'm gonna go wiki on all of your asses because all of the sources I'm reading don't seem to support what you're saying |
| 17:57.19 | Shirik | so {{citation needed}} |
| 17:57.42 | Arrowmaster | what the fuck Shirik, thats an original xbox game |
| 17:58.05 | Shirik | really? |
| 17:58.08 | Jamash | splinter cell: jam today |
| 17:58.12 | Shirik | I didn't look closely enough |
| 17:58.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: spdif (both optical and coax) maxes out at 5.1 ac3 |
| 17:58.44 | Shirik | then why does everyone claim support for 7.1? |
| 17:58.49 | Jamash | I like saying spdif as a word, like "SPA-DIFF" |
| 17:58.52 | Arrowmaster | because people believe them |
| 17:58.57 | Shirik | lol |
| 17:58.57 | ScytheBlade1 | gonna toss this right back at you |
| 17:59.00 | ScytheBlade1 | {{citation needed}} |
| 17:59.01 | Jamash | they're probably remixing 5.1 to 7.1 |
| 17:59.24 | Jamash | what are the other two channels in 7.1, anyway? |
| 17:59.33 | ScytheBlade1 | right and left center |
| 17:59.35 | ScytheBlade1 | iirc |
| 17:59.43 | Arrowmaster | like i said hdmi is apparently capable of 7.1 even though i thought it was just the same as a spdif connection |
| 17:59.44 | Jamash | I was hoping for floor and ceiling |
| 17:59.45 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=xbox+7.1 |
| 17:59.46 | ScytheBlade1 | enjoys his 2.0 headphones |
| 17:59.55 | Shirik | regardless of whether it's 7.1 or 5.1 |
| 18:00.00 | Arrowmaster | i fucking hate lmgtfy.com |
| 18:00.02 | Shirik | surround sound headphones = win |
| 18:00.14 | Arrowmaster | fucking retarded ass site that requires javascript |
| 18:00.18 | Shirik | even if it's not 7.1, definitely helped a lot |
| 18:00.23 | Jamash | having a ceiling channel would rock |
| 18:00.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: amusingly, the first shopping result for that search is an hdmi cable |
| 18:00.32 | Shirik | lol |
| 18:00.37 | Shirik | actually |
| 18:00.41 | Shirik | amusingly, I use HDMI |
| 18:00.52 | Shirik | but the audio system is connected via optical |
| 18:01.23 | Jamash | I use HDMI and the speakers in my TV |
| 18:01.31 | ScytheBlade1 | you shouldn't, if you have the option |
| 18:01.31 | Shirik | I use the speakers in my TV too |
| 18:01.38 | Shirik | but it's so quiet that I don't even hear them |
| 18:01.42 | Shirik | the headphones drown it out :P |
| 18:01.49 | ScytheBlade1 | the "best" setup you can get now is HDMI A+V out and then split at an audio receiver |
| 18:01.51 | Shirik | I just leave the sound on because I"m too lazy to turn it off |
| 18:01.56 | nevcairiel | You seriously sit in front of your xbox with headphones? |
| 18:01.57 | Shirik | I don't have the option |
| 18:02.01 | Shirik | yes |
| 18:02.08 | Shirik | it's wireless |
| 18:02.11 | nevcairiel | must be a depressign situation |
| 18:02.13 | Shirik | so it's not like uncomfortable or anything |
| 18:02.21 | ScytheBlade1 | nevcairiel: you need better headphones |
| 18:02.25 | Shirik | ^ |
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| 18:02.38 | Shirik | Surround sound headphones made me so much more aware of what is going on |
| 18:02.50 | Shirik | to the point where I play with my friends occasionally and it totally throws me off now because I'm hearing HIS sound as well |
| 18:02.51 | Arrowmaster | depending on the TV it may be better to route the audio into the TV via HDMI then back out of the TV |
| 18:02.57 | nevcairiel | wearing headphones vs not wearing headphones .. i'll always pick not :P |
| 18:03.10 | ScytheBlade1 | then you really need to try some decent headphones |
| 18:03.14 | Shirik | ^ |
| 18:03.16 | nevcairiel | 7.1 setup in the room > 7.1 headphones! |
| 18:03.23 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd agree with that |
| 18:03.25 | Arrowmaster | they do so much crap these days that TVs have input lag so high that they actually delay the audio to sync it to the input lag |
| 18:03.25 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 18:03.27 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 18:03.29 | Shirik | I agree with that too |
| 18:03.37 | Jamash | so, should I buy http://www.sennheiserusa.com/private_headsets_pc_pro-gaming_skype-voip_500922 ? |
| 18:03.38 | Shirik | but I don't have $2k to waste on a sound system right now |
| 18:03.40 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd say that if you're sitting back listening to music |
| 18:03.43 | Fisker | HEY SHIRIK |
| 18:03.46 | Cloudwolf | Wearing headphones vs not wearing headphones ill almost always pick wearing |
| 18:03.51 | ScytheBlade1 | proper 2ch headphones will destroy most everything |
| 18:04.04 | Shirik | you hear so much more with headphones |
| 18:04.07 | Cloudwolf | i have decent speakers ont his computer but i still use headphones 1 privacy 2 i don't think toher people in the hosue want to hear the music that i woudl be playing fairly loudly |
| 18:04.21 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 18:04.51 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 18:05.07 | Shirik | LMFAO |
| 18:05.09 | Shirik | this guy has no idea how sound works |
| 18:05.11 | Fisker | what? |
| 18:05.16 | Shirik | "It needs an optical digital sound input, which most PCs don't have. You could contact them and see if they have an adapter for 3.5mm stereo to optical." |
| 18:05.21 | Jamash | hahaha |
| 18:05.25 | ScytheBlade1 | wat |
| 18:05.39 | Shirik | http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091119192253AAMhi9n |
| 18:05.41 | nevcairiel | I'm sure you could build an adapter .. of sorts.. |
| 18:05.46 | Shirik | I guess you could |
| 18:05.48 | ScytheBlade1 | called a computer |
| 18:05.53 | Shirik | but after doing so you should shoot yourself |
| 18:05.54 | ScytheBlade1 | or a full-blown audio receiver |
| 18:06.04 | Shirik | and you would gain nothing |
| 18:06.10 | Arrowmaster | the guy also seems to confuse input and output |
| 18:06.19 | Shirik | I didn't even notice that |
| 18:06.22 | Arrowmaster | most modern pcs do have optical output |
| 18:06.39 | Shirik | but really Jamash if your PC has optical out |
| 18:06.44 | Shirik | I am so happy with my X41s |
| 18:06.46 | nevcairiel | indeed, they have those combo connectors for both coaxial and optical |
| 18:06.56 | Jamash | a lot of laptops have spdif and headphone in the same jack |
| 18:06.59 | Arrowmaster | the system i built in 03 had optical and spdif output on the onboard soundcard |
| 18:07.04 | Shirik | ACTUALLY |
| 18:07.06 | Shirik | omg Jamash |
| 18:07.08 | Shirik | I totally forgot that |
| 18:07.15 | Shirik | whenever I plug in my headphones I briefly see a red light |
| 18:07.18 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 18:07.19 | Shirik | I bet it does have optical out |
| 18:07.21 | Jamash | yep |
| 18:07.21 | Tuller | i actually have a cable for that |
| 18:07.27 | Arrowmaster | Jamash: spdif? dont you mean toslink and headphone in the same? |
| 18:07.30 | Fisker | i see a read light too |
| 18:07.39 | Fisker | read? |
| 18:07.40 | Fisker | red! |
| 18:07.41 | Arrowmaster | i have a minidisk player that has that kinda connection |
| 18:07.49 | Jamash | it says spdif on the side of the case, that's all I know |
| 18:07.50 | Shirik | omg I remember minidisc players |
| 18:07.52 | Shirik | I had one |
| 18:07.58 | nevcairiel | spdif is juts the interface definition, toslink is the transport |
| 18:08.06 | nevcairiel | so both coaxial and optical are spdif |
| 18:08.12 | nevcairiel | and optical is also toslink :P |
| 18:08.32 | cogwheel | hmm... apparently my windows 7 bootloader was on my vista drive... which i just wiped... |
| 18:08.41 | Shirik | lol |
| 18:08.43 | Jamash | hi5 cogwheel |
| 18:08.45 | NightHawkTheSane | that.. sucks |
| 18:08.46 | Shirik | fixmbr fixboot |
| 18:08.53 | Fisker | bam |
| 18:08.56 | Fisker | baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam |
| 18:09.00 | Jamash | I've wiped my bootloader too many times to count |
| 18:09.16 | Shirik | just install grub :P |
| 18:09.20 | cogwheel | Shirik: yeah |
| 18:09.23 | cogwheel | i'm installing ubuntu |
| 18:09.30 | Shirik | but really you can fix it from recovery console with fixmbr/fixboot |
| 18:09.34 | cogwheel | i figure i'll see if the boot loader picks it up before worrying |
| 18:09.37 | Jamash | grub is great except trying to configure it makes me cry |
| 18:09.48 | cogwheel | Shirik: yep. i've done it many times :) |
| 18:09.54 | nevcairiel | huh, grub config isnt that hard |
| 18:09.59 | Jamash | they changed it |
| 18:10.05 | Jamash | in grub2 |
| 18:10.08 | Jamash | to use shell scripts |
| 18:10.09 | Jamash | and shit |
| 18:10.10 | nevcairiel | i'm still with 1 :P |
| 18:10.14 | Jamash | good idea |
| 18:10.35 | Arrowmaster | grub2 uses lua |
| 18:10.41 | Jamash | and shell scripts |
| 18:10.42 | nevcairiel | i dont even think 2 made it into gentoo yet |
| 18:10.47 | Shirik | guess what else grub2 uses |
| 18:10.49 | Shirik | Lua |
| 18:10.55 | Shirik | oh Arrowmaster already said this :( |
| 18:11.10 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 18:11.12 | nevcairiel | how much shit do you need in a boot loader o.O |
| 18:11.16 | nevcairiel | sounds liek serious bloat |
| 18:11.27 | Shirik | That's why they have 500 stages of boot loading |
| 18:11.48 | Jamash | actually grub2 gets rid of stage1.5 |
| 18:11.50 | cogwheel | nevcairiel: for less-than-experienced users imo |
| 18:11.52 | Shirik | really? |
| 18:11.57 | cogwheel | lower barrier to entry |
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| 18:12.04 | Jamash | so I have read |
| 18:12.43 | Jamash | I kind of miss lilo |
| 18:12.47 | Shirik | I don't |
| 18:13.02 | Jamash | only kind of |
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| 18:13.47 | Fisker | i f5 u Shirik |
| 18:13.49 | Jamash | oh dude I have curse points |
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| 18:14.02 | Jamash | I can use them to encheapen headphones |
| 18:14.11 | cogwheel | yeah i had a very "what's all this then?", "get off my lawn" moment the first time i installed a distro with grub -_- |
| 18:14.35 | Fisker | i want doctor who now cogwheel |
| 18:14.49 | Jamash | doctor whooooooooo hey! doctor who |
| 18:15.33 | Fisker | shoo Jamash |
| 18:15.44 | Jamash | what |
| 18:16.29 | Jamash | you don't like KLF? |
| 18:17.23 | Fisker | i hate you |
| 18:17.34 | Jamash | awesome |
| 18:17.47 | Jamash | it's like being on the nixon enemies list |
| 18:17.56 | NightHawkTheSane | no, it's more inane than that |
| 18:20.47 | Jamash | uh oh, amazon's reading my mind |
| 18:21.17 | NightHawkTheSane | as long as they dont start writing it also, you're fine |
| 18:21.23 | Jamash | it's recommending Higurashi no Naku Koro ni |
| 18:22.06 | Jamash | crap it's only $32 |
| 18:22.17 | Jamash | hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn must not buy |
| 18:22.33 | NightHawkTheSane | do it. buy it. it's a great deal. |
| 18:22.40 | Jamash | you're not helping! |
| 18:22.56 | NightHawkTheSane | sure i am. i'm helping you get a great deal! |
| 18:23.04 | Fisker | NightHawkTheSane |
| 18:23.08 | NightHawkTheSane | you'll totally regret if you dont buy it, Jamash |
| 18:23.15 | Jamash | I hate you |
| 18:23.29 | NightHawkTheSane | is a really, really terrible person |
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| 18:24.06 | cogwheel | hipeppeppy |
| 18:24.06 | Jamash | on the birthday wishlist it goes |
| 18:24.15 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Cogwhell. |
| 18:24.25 | Lopeppeppy | Oh god, I can spell. *yawn* Cogwheel! |
| 18:24.27 | Jamash | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 18:24.38 | cogwheel | spelling's for weekdays |
| 18:26.12 | Fisker | no cogwheel |
| 18:26.15 | Fisker | you will be stopped |
| 18:26.20 | Fisker | just as Shirik|AFK was stopped |
| 18:26.37 | cogwheel | Fisker: stop! hammertime! |
| 18:26.55 | Cloudwolf | curse points? |
| 18:27.18 | Jamash | author rewards program |
| 18:27.20 | Jamash | thingy |
| 18:28.01 | Lopeppeppy | Chupathingie. |
| 18:28.05 | Jamash | I should write more addons |
| 18:28.25 | Jamash | Is there a good addon that already exists that tracks where and when you got epic drops and that sort of thing? |
| 18:29.00 | nevcairiel | its called armory |
| 18:29.10 | Jamash | 'cause I have a terrible memory and people ask me "cool item where did you get it?" and I have to say "idk my bff jill?" |
| 18:29.31 | Jamash | well, not the last part |
| 18:29.54 | Lopeppeppy | Tell them that google is their friend. There are addons that tell you where loot comes from, I used to use one when I was curious. |
| 18:30.04 | Lopeppeppy | It was something in the tooltip, IIRC. |
| 18:30.05 | Jamash | speaking of items I neeeeeed the frostscythe on my priest |
| 18:30.26 | Lopeppeppy | WhoDrop was what it was. |
| 18:30.34 | Jamash | neat |
| 18:31.11 | Jamash | last updated: 2007 :( |
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| 18:31.23 | Fisker | :) |
| 18:31.23 | Lopeppeppy | I did say "used to use". :P Look for something similar! |
| 18:31.27 | Fisker | nooo |
| 18:31.28 | Fisker | not Seerah |
| 18:31.45 | Jamash | I wonder if there's a way to hook into the atlasloot database |
| 18:31.46 | Seerah | ahahahaha! |
| 18:31.50 | Lopeppeppy | It truly is Seerah. |
| 18:32.05 | Lopeppeppy | Jamash, requiring someone to have atlasloot to run your addon? Eeew. |
| 18:32.16 | Jamash | why not? |
| 18:32.21 | Jamash | atlasloot is awesome |
| 18:33.21 | Jamash | or I could modify atlasloot directly and submit a patch |
| 18:34.39 | foxlit | teehee, LibHooker. |
| 18:35.25 | Thunder_Child | Jamash: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info14907-LootDB.html |
| 18:35.45 | Jamash | cool |
| 18:37.44 | Jamash | I need to go to my grandad's house and install his new digimal comcrapst box |
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| 18:39.47 | Jamash | ok, refurbished headphones yes or no |
| 18:40.26 | Jamash | I have a long history of headphones crapping out due to poor internal wiring so I am wary |
| 18:40.42 | Cloudwolf | Jamash thats up to you along with figure out their return policy |
| 18:41.07 | Jamash | seller does not have a return policy, so, uh, no |
| 18:41.34 | Cloudwolf | if your concenred about warrenties |
| 18:41.36 | Cloudwolf | quality |
| 18:41.37 | Cloudwolf | blah blah blah |
| 18:41.41 | Cloudwolf | i recomnd koss headphones |
| 18:41.50 | Cloudwolf | i havn't used em but my dad has and they started with making headphones |
| 18:42.07 | Cloudwolf | theyc ome with a limited life time warrenty that also says no questions asked |
| 18:42.29 | Cloudwolf | http://www.koss.com/koss/kossweb.nsf/warrrepair5?openform |
| 18:42.46 | Jamash | nice |
| 18:46.12 | Jamash | hmm, I need to decide whether I want isolating or non-isolating |
| 18:46.30 | Jamash | problem with isolating is I get people coming in my room and yelling at me |
| 18:46.40 | Cloudwolf | im using sennhiesers that ive had for like 5 years only thing that has broken is the cord which you can get a replacement cord for like 5 bucks but im thinking of getting new headphones soon. |
| 18:47.19 | Cloudwolf | unless you have a lot of sounds going on thatyou want to ingore i would say go with non isolating but i don't know enough about it to give you a good opinion |
| 18:47.55 | airtonix | http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/06/23/apple.claims.htc.violates.two.more.patents/ |
| 18:48.13 | Jamash | yeah I'm thinking non-isolating |
| 18:48.37 | Jamash | god the patent system is broken |
| 18:49.43 | Cloudwolf | What about the fact that apple stole the original circle dial thingy from creative? |
| 18:49.46 | Cloudwolf | XD |
| 18:50.05 | Jamash | hurba durba I shud buy http://www.amazon.com/Creative-Labs-Blaster-Warcraft-Wireless/dp/B002L6GCP8/ref=pd_mw_e_11?ie=UTF8&s=electronics cuz it has teh hoard symbol |
| 18:50.26 | Cloudwolf | alliance ftw! i mean >.> |
| 18:53.59 | Jamash | I'd kind of like earbuds with a mic but I'm concerned about SCRAPE SCRAPE SCRAPE noises |
| 18:57.30 | Jamash | I suppose I could get separate earbuds and a clip-on mic but that sounds kind of janky |
| 18:58.15 | Cloudwolf | lol jamash i have a clip on mic on my headphones >.> |
| 18:58.21 | Jamash | hm |
| 18:58.26 | Cloudwolf | no ones gonna see you doens't matter if its gimp or not |
| 18:58.35 | Jamash | do you cable tie the cords together? |
| 18:58.51 | Cloudwolf | no i just clipped it then the clip broke and then i fucked up repairing it |
| 18:58.55 | Cloudwolf | so now its super glued to the cord |
| 18:58.59 | Cloudwolf | tip make sure super glue is fully dry |
| 18:59.06 | Jamash | haha |
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| 18:59.28 | Cloudwolf | but yeah i got a cheap 5 dollar clip mic from radio shack |
| 18:59.45 | Cloudwolf | surprsiingly the mic isn't utter crap |
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| 19:00.59 | Cloudwolf | can't find it on thier website lol |
| 19:01.44 | Cloudwolf | http://www0.dealtime.com/xPF-Radio-Shack-Tie-Clip-Microphone |
| 19:01.46 | Cloudwolf | foudn it lol |
| 19:03.16 | Cloudwolf | i don't evne know if they are sold anymore |
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| 19:07.28 | m^rk | PLAYER_TALENT_UPDATE seems to randomly be sent during login.. but not always.. is that normal? |
| 19:08.04 | Shadowed | Do you want to know when player talents are available on login/reload, or when they change period? |
| 19:09.40 | m^rk | I had assumed that it was always sent during login, and wrote code that depended on it, but it doesn't seem to always be the case. |
| 19:09.59 | Shadowed | It's not available on login until PLAYER_LOGIN, on reload it's available |
| 19:10.03 | airtonix | http://i.imgur.com/YoB09.gif |
| 19:10.30 | Shadowed | https://gist.github.com/af3fa3727b64acd69a71 that's a simple example of what you want to do |
| 19:11.01 | Shadowed | Once PLAYER_LOGIN fires, talent data is available, so those 4 lines will either wait for the event, or immediately call it if you are reloading |
| 19:11.06 | Jamash | logitech g330 seems reasonable |
| 19:12.48 | airtonix | vlc does lua addons now |
| 19:14.28 | m^rk | thanks, now I get it |
| 19:15.21 | Cloudwolf | is it possible to dynamically lengthen a frame depending on a situatoin such as text is being clipped? |
| 19:15.47 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 19:15.52 | Jamash | yeah |
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| 19:33.53 | Jamash | thq complete pack for $50 |
| 19:33.55 | Jamash | sexy |
| 19:36.56 | Xinhuan | bet you'll buy it then spend less than 4 hours playing it over the next 2 months |
| 19:37.05 | Jamash | dawn of waaaaaaaaaaaaar |
| 19:37.21 | Jamash | but yes, I have games I need to play first |
| 19:37.31 | Jamash | finish bioshock 1, play fallout 3, finish Borderlands |
| 19:37.46 | Xinhuan | lol L4D2 shot straight to the top of sales |
| 19:37.54 | Xinhuan | with that 66% off |
| 19:38.04 | nevcairiel | I was wondering if i should get L4D2, but dont think i would play it much |
| 19:38.04 | Jamash | I get valve games for free |
| 19:38.18 | Xinhuan | you should nev, its not going to get cheaper than that |
| 19:38.26 | nevcairiel | i dont even have 1 :D |
| 19:38.27 | Jamash | don't buy it unless you have at least one person who you will play it with on a regular basis |
| 19:38.50 | nevcairiel | I'm not much into MP, i just like good singleplayer games |
| 19:39.08 | Jamash | then, don't |
| 19:39.09 | Xinhuan | what genre |
| 19:39.21 | Jamash | AI players in L4D2 are kind of bad |
| 19:39.34 | Xinhuan | i play expert mode with my friends hehe |
| 19:39.41 | Xinhuan | but we're not very expert at it yet |
| 19:39.42 | Jamash | now that's entertainment |
| 19:39.53 | Xinhuan | and the chainsaw mutation was just golden |
| 19:39.57 | nevcairiel | Xinhuan: anything with a good story, really |
| 19:40.02 | Xinhuan | platforming? puzzles? rpg? action? |
| 19:40.04 | sylvanaar_iphone | I have less than 1 hr played on most of my steam games |
| 19:40.14 | Jamash | I tried playing L4D with my friends but my old laptop overheated |
| 19:40.15 | Xinhuan | strategy? turn-based? |
| 19:40.20 | Jamash | so I never got to play it much |
| 19:40.25 | nevcairiel | turn based not so much, that always drives me nuts |
| 19:40.33 | Xinhuan | civ is a must buy |
| 19:40.34 | Xinhuan | :P |
| 19:40.39 | Jamash | turn-based action strategy puzzle rpg ? |
| 19:41.25 | Jamash | civ5 screenies are making me drool |
| 19:41.30 | Xinhuan | turn-based and action don't quite mix hehe |
| 19:41.37 | Jamash | it's been done |
| 19:41.47 | Xinhuan | name such a game |
| 19:41.48 | Jamash | active time battle yo |
| 19:42.02 | nevcairiel | that THQ pack looks like alot of fun for not much money |
| 19:42.05 | Jamash | yes |
| 19:42.10 | Jamash | yes it does |
| 19:42.20 | Xinhuan | i bought the overlord pack yesterday |
| 19:42.24 | Jamash | do not play red faction for the story btw |
| 19:42.27 | Xinhuan | hope its fun |
| 19:42.45 | Xinhuan | also got dragon's age: origins |
| 19:42.52 | Jamash | the story is "If all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a destructible." |
| 19:42.58 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 19:43.05 | nevcairiel | i played the original red faction |
| 19:43.17 | Jamash | I watched my friend play RF guerrilla |
| 19:43.23 | Jamash | fun, but kind of simplistic |
| 19:43.30 | Xinhuan | oh and get Trine if you like platformer puzzles |
| 19:43.37 | Xinhuan | was on 40% sale yesterday i think |
| 19:43.54 | Jamash | wow, lush |
| 19:44.06 | nevcairiel | still 50% today |
| 19:44.28 | Xinhuan | witcher is also good |
| 19:44.35 | Jamash | the thing is SMG2 is going to be taking up all my platformer time in the near future |
| 19:45.02 | nevcairiel | i dont have much time to play games to begin with right now, but after i moved it should be better :) |
| 19:45.07 | Jamash | I can't take the witcher seriously, purely on the basis of its name |
| 19:45.26 | Xinhuan | its a pretty good rpg |
| 19:45.29 | Xinhuan | i like it |
| 19:45.39 | Xinhuan | read reviews and you'll see |
| 19:46.06 | Xinhuan | hmm upcoming games - lego harry potter |
| 19:46.12 | Jamash | do you like things that are funny? |
| 19:46.23 | Xinhuan | This game will unlock in approximately 1 day and 22 hours |
| 19:46.25 | Jamash | buy sam & max |
| 19:46.34 | nevcairiel | oh i saw, there was a new sam&max |
| 19:46.44 | Iriel | New as in days new? |
| 19:46.48 | Iriel | Or new as in 'season 3' ? |
| 19:46.54 | Iriel | Or new as in the whole game |
| 19:47.11 | Xinhuan | Singularity looks good, released tomorrow |
| 19:47.26 | Xinhuan | or some time this month |
| 19:48.09 | Jamash | I guess it was only a matter of time before the singularity turned into a sci-fi cliche |
| 19:49.11 | Jamash | how come I can't add complete packs to my wishlist? |
| 19:49.23 | Xinhuan | because the complete packs are limited offers |
| 19:49.28 | Xinhuan | once it expires they don't exist anymore |
| 19:49.31 | Jamash | oh |
| 19:49.37 | Iriel | I'd guess because the wishlist is assummed to outlive the pack |
| 19:49.42 | Iriel | Wow, typo hell. |
| 19:49.50 | Jamash | so remove it once it expires, durp |
| 19:50.08 | Xinhuan | that isn't wise |
| 19:50.12 | Iriel | The idea is you're trying to add it because you want what's in it |
| 19:50.18 | Iriel | so you should add what's in it, or the parts you want |
| 19:50.22 | Xinhuan | people aren't accustomed to having items disappear |
| 19:50.31 | Iriel | And retailers dont want that either |
| 19:50.45 | Iriel | they want your wishlist as big as you can make it, so people can buy you stuff |
| 19:50.57 | Xinhuan | anyway the pack on offer is probably only going to last a day |
| 19:51.00 | Xinhuan | don't need a wishlist for it ;p |
| 19:51.09 | Jamash | YES gratuitous space battles is half off |
| 19:51.36 | Xinhuan | assassin's creed 2 still only 33% off :/ |
| 19:51.54 | Xinhuan | really not buying it at that price |
| 19:52.15 | Jamash | BOUGHT |
| 19:52.24 | Xinhuan | or prince of persia forgotten sands |
| 19:52.46 | Jamash | shit, what have I done to myself |
| 19:52.53 | Jamash | I'm never going to sleep again :( |
| 19:54.59 | Xinhuan | whats the definition of an "indie" game |
| 19:55.23 | Jamash | there is no definition |
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| 19:56.51 | Jamash | I am unreasonably excited about GSB |
| 19:57.03 | Jamash | I think it's my unnatural love of laser weaponry |
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| 20:01.15 | zenzelezz | http://verydemotivational.com/2010/06/26/demotivational-posters-awkward-boner/ |
| 20:01.31 | A-KO | LOL |
| 20:02.00 | Xinhuan | "Independent video game development is the process of creating video games without the financial support of a video game publisher" |
| 20:02.11 | Xinhuan | ok so indie games just means no publisher |
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| 20:03.01 | cogwheel | well that took longer than usual... apparently win7's boot sector recovery is too dumb to set the partition's boot flag. |
| 20:04.23 | cogwheel | had to use gparted to do that, then windows 7 would install the boot loader. and now grub automatically finds it too :) |
| 20:05.27 | Jamash | It means you make the game and then get it published, instead of having a contract in advance |
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| 20:06.21 | Jamash | "Play with the Frag Dolls in Magic: The Gathering on Steam" |
| 20:06.24 | Jamash | wat |
| 20:10.13 | miica | i wanna send function through SendAddonMessage :o |
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| 20:10.35 | miica | 1st i gonna send name and function lenght |
| 20:11.02 | miica | hmm.. |
| 20:13.03 | Jamash | this sounds like a terrible idea |
| 20:13.08 | Iriel | miica: You might want to think carefully about whether or not that's a good idea from a user-security perspective |
| 20:13.23 | m^rk | i have 15 items in a drop down menu and sometimes the last 3 are disabled, but i never set .disabled = 1 in the list.. it seems totally random if it happens |
| 20:13.53 | Iriel | If you really DO decide to go that route, execute the function in a sandbox so it can't do anything it's not supposed to (even then, a good sandbox is hard to achieve) |
| 20:13.54 | Jamash | miica: If someone spoofs your addon (which is trivial to do), they could run arbitrary code on the recipient's end |
| 20:14.10 | Iriel | m^rk: Perhaps someone else's code left it flagged, though I thought the lib was supposed to clean up for you |
| 20:14.43 | miica | well i was just intrested to build system like that not realy use it :P |
| 20:15.09 | miica | or somekind system where you need to send large amount data |
| 20:15.35 | zenzelezz | in WoW? |
| 20:15.36 | miica | and i thought functions would be nice to test because then you can execute them and test does they work |
| 20:16.15 | miica | zenzelezz: yes? :P |
| 20:16.38 | zenzelezz | "large amounts of data" sounds bad for games |
| 20:17.16 | DJJeff | ~seen shurshik |
| 20:17.18 | purl | i haven't seen 'shurshik', DJJeff |
| 20:17.21 | miica | well around 400 |
| 20:17.33 | miica | or macro siz |
| 20:18.40 | miica | anybody knows SendAdoonMessage size limit? |
| 20:19.02 | nevcairiel | 255, including header |
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| 20:19.10 | nevcairiel | eh, prefix |
| 20:19.11 | nevcairiel | whatever |
| 20:19.12 | nevcairiel | ! |
| 20:19.24 | miica | is there prefix limit? :O |
| 20:19.32 | mikma | 255 |
| 20:19.33 | Iriel | The 'message' is one string |
| 20:19.38 | Iriel | prefix + byte + data |
| 20:19.44 | Cloudwolf | sounds like its emulating text messaging lol |
| 20:19.50 | Iriel | You can allocate between the two parts as you wish |
| 20:20.00 | Iriel | It's just a chat message with a different type flag |
| 20:20.34 | Iriel | if you use 3 byte prefix, then you have 10 more bytes of payload than you would if you used a 13 byte prefix. |
| 20:20.44 | miica | :/ |
| 20:21.06 | Iriel | Dont make the prefix too short is about the only recommendation 8-) |
| 20:21.20 | nevcairiel | yeah, being unique is nice |
| 20:21.21 | miica | 1st i need to count "total" data and then send somekind "header" function name lengt etc |
| 20:21.32 | miica | then i need to send function in x part :/ |
| 20:21.38 | Jamash | you're better off alt-tabbing and sending someone an email |
| 20:21.41 | nevcairiel | use AceComm-3.0 :D |
| 20:21.52 | miica | AceComm hmm.. |
| 20:21.52 | nevcairiel | it handles splitting of long messages |
| 20:21.59 | Iriel | Generally if you're doing this, find a library (or write a library if you want to learn rather than produce) that abstracts the message transport from the message |
| 20:22.02 | Iriel | Like AceComm, yes |
| 20:22.36 | miica | http://www.ace-comm.ca/ lol |
| 20:22.43 | nevcairiel | @project wow/ace3 |
| 20:22.47 | Repo | nevcairiel: http://www.wowace.com/addons/ace3/. Ace3. Game: WoW. Kaelten (Manager/Author), Ammo (Author), mikk (Author), Nargiddley (Author), Nevcairiel (Author/Maintainer). Updated: 12 hours ago. Tickets: 8/144 |
| 20:23.24 | mikma | lol/ac3 comfort |
| 20:26.15 | miica | :3 |
| 20:27.41 | Jamash | ohcrap someone's using my curseforge ticketing system |
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| 20:39.56 | airtonix | quick! |
| 20:39.58 | airtonix | feign death |
| 20:44.58 | Jamash | going to gramps house, bbl |
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| 21:30.36 | airtonix | fisker |
| 21:30.53 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:31.10 | airtonix | damn you |
| 21:38.20 | mikma | http://randomvideosblog.com/2010/06/20/break-dance-move-ends-horrible/ |
| 21:38.22 | mikma | i love the title |
| 21:38.29 | mikma | "Face-Break-Dance" |
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| 21:47.27 | Shirik|AFK | so I go to GNC to pick up some multivitamins |
| 21:47.38 | Shirik | the lady there is all "wow your skin is so beautiful" |
| 21:47.50 | Shirik | very strange salespeople out here on the west coast >.> |
| 21:48.39 | zenzelezz | "Thanks, it's mostly from the electromagnetic radiation" |
| 21:48.47 | Shirik | lol |
| 21:56.45 | Dagmar | yay goths! |
| 21:59.10 | airtonix | were her pupils dilated ? |
| 21:59.28 | airtonix | i mean did she look like a kitten with a taurine habit ? |
| 22:00.09 | airtonix | coz when you turned up she could of been so fucked up on lsd that you looked like the naaru |
| 22:02.23 | Shirik | uh |
| 22:02.26 | airtonix | also |
| 22:02.27 | Shirik | I don't think so airtonix |
| 22:02.35 | airtonix | http://www.barnorama.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/catm.jpg |
| 22:03.13 | airtonix | i think he means business |
| 22:05.34 | airtonix | The catmissile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isnt. By subtracting where it is from where it isnt, or where it isnt from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the catmissile from a position where it is to a position where it isnt, and arriving at a position where it wasnt, |
| 22:05.34 | airtonix | it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasnt, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isnt. |
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| 22:07.54 | tekkub | so it works like blink |
| 22:08.24 | tekkub | blink doesn't transpor the caster to a new location, it replaces the caster's currnt location with the contents of the target location |
| 22:08.35 | tekkub | thus displacing the caster into the target location |
| 22:09.42 | airtonix | yes but |
| 22:09.44 | airtonix | wait |
| 22:09.48 | airtonix | theres more |
| 22:10.12 | airtonix | In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasnt, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the catmissile is, and where it wasnt. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the catmissile must also know where it was. |
| 22:10.36 | airtonix | The catmissile guidance computer scenario works as follows. |
| 22:10.49 | airtonix | Because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. |
| 22:10.59 | airtonix | However, it is sure where it isnt, within reason, and it knows where it was. |
| 22:11.14 | airtonix | It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasnt, or vice-versa, and by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldnt be, and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error. |
| 22:11.36 | cbreak | is that the result of the famous million monkeys with typewriters? |
| 22:11.56 | airtonix | it might be |
| 22:13.40 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 22:13.43 | Fisker | can you help me? |
| 22:13.48 | Shirik | probably not |
| 22:14.10 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 22:14.15 | Shirik | kk |
| 22:14.22 | airtonix | http://vlab.infotech.monash.edu.au/simulations/evolution/richard-dawkin-weasel/demo/ |
| 22:15.07 | Shirik | "The RIAA sued the Lime Group for $150,000 for each of the songs downloaded using LimeWire." |
| 22:15.21 | Shirik | I'm not sure that there's that much money in the world |
| 22:15.37 | airtonix | you and i both know that's not the intention |
| 22:15.46 | airtonix | debit is never about making profit |
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| 22:21.34 | airtonix | http://geektechnique.org/media/CrackedScreen1440x900.jpg |
| 22:21.36 | Dagmar | It's about keeping their baseline of OMGludicrous money per song awarded |
| 22:22.01 | Dagmar | airtonix: That's handy |
| 22:22.18 | Dagmar | I will now make it the login backdrop for my co-worker. |
| 22:23.20 | Dagmar | A shame they don't have a 1680x1050 version |
| 22:25.35 | Dagmar | airtonix: I offer http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/ns_tic.pdf in repayment. ;) |
| 22:25.44 | Dagmar | Just as horrifying, but text! |
| 22:26.27 | Dagmar | Can be summarized as "Privacy is only meant for rich people." |
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| 22:41.23 | miica | http://pastebin.com/FxhHh2zp |
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| 22:49.53 | Shirik | So I got some new multivitamins |
| 22:49.59 | Shirik | they are very strange now that I'm looking at them |
| 22:50.13 | DWSR | That's what she said. |
| 22:50.15 | Shirik | Probably the most common thing to find in a multivitamin is Iron |
| 22:50.18 | Shirik | it has none |
| 22:50.29 | Shirik | However, some of the less common vitamins are up at 4500% DV |
| 22:50.33 | DWSR | Iron is not, strictly speaking, a vitamin. |
| 22:50.39 | Shirik | true |
| 22:50.43 | Shirik | but it's still usually in them :P |
| 22:50.45 | DWSR | QED |
| 22:50.46 | DWSR | ~fail |
| 22:50.46 | purl | [fail] YOU FAIL. |
| 22:53.44 | ZorbaGama | shirik, iron is less common in male-centered multivitamins |
| 22:53.58 | Shirik | interesting |
| 22:54.27 | Antiarc | "Java isn't a toy language. You've characterized it improperly. Java is a bureaucratic language. You have to cross your t's dot your i's, fill out your requests in triplicate at the FactoryFactoryFactory to get the objectOfYourDesire." |
| 22:54.34 | ZorbaGama | in fact my "male one-per-day vitamins" don't have any either |
| 22:56.04 | miica | why you need to eat vitamins anyway O,o |
| 22:56.16 | miica | what kinda crappy food you eat |
| 22:56.52 | ZorbaGama | miica, it doesn't hurt. it's quite difficult to cover all dietary needs easily, and multivitamins pretty much just take care of things for you |
| 22:57.45 | Shirik | miica: It's kinda widely believed that even if you don't need them, you should take them if you're active |
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| 23:00.24 | miica | :D |
| 23:01.39 | miica | well here we mostly think that marketing dudes just tries to take your money :D |
| 23:02.49 | miica | and we eat kinda healthy here in Finland anyway |
| 23:02.58 | Iriel | I liked what Michael Pollan said (which I may get slightly wrong) -- It's not so much that you should necessarily take multivitamins, but you want to be the kind of person who takes multivitamins. |
| 23:03.59 | Shirik | not sure what that means exactly |
| 23:04.18 | Iriel | It means you want to be informed and practice what's considered a healthy lifestyle. |
| 23:04.22 | Shirik | ah |
| 23:04.26 | Shirik | I'll agree with that |
| 23:04.44 | Shirik | funny thing is I'm going through the supplement facts here to enter them in |
| 23:04.48 | Shirik | most of them don't even have a place for entry |
| 23:04.53 | Iriel | As you said, even if you have a good diet, the general consensus is that taking a multivitamin doesn't hurt, and it might help if your diet is skewed. |
| 23:04.53 | Shirik | like "Cinnamon Bark Powder" wtf? |
| 23:05.08 | Shirik | Apparently one of them has 1mg of "Cinnamon Bark Powder" |
| 23:05.17 | miica | like what i ate today: morning orange juice, bacon, eggs, rye bread dinner some potato, meat around 200g, salad and milk, and later "new" potatoes, herring(fish) and butter milk :D |
| 23:05.30 | Shirik | good @ fish |
| 23:05.33 | tekkub | So because I *think* about taking walks every day, but I dont' really do it... |
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| 23:05.36 | Shirik | I don't really eat fish at all, which is bad for me |
| 23:05.51 | miica | i am not sure if herring is right name :D |
| 23:05.59 | tekkub | hairing |
| 23:06.04 | Iriel | Herring is correct |
| 23:06.07 | Shirik | no that's what you eat tekkub |
| 23:06.08 | Iriel | Ignore tekkub 8-) |
| 23:06.24 | Shirik | ;p; |
| 23:06.26 | Shirik | lol |
| 23:06.31 | Shirik | 100mg BP Grape Seed Extract |
| 23:06.33 | Iriel | Which actually is a pretty good rule for all of life |
| 23:06.35 | miica | herring in mustard D: |
| 23:06.36 | Shirik | I like the "BP" part |
| 23:06.44 | tekkub | watch out for tarballs |
| 23:06.50 | tekkub | get the no pulp kind |
| 23:07.07 | Shirik | no pulp vitamins? |
| 23:07.14 | Shirik | that's what I got |
| 23:07.49 | miica | and potatos give shit lot vitamins etc :) |
| 23:08.10 | Shirik | again it's not really that you need to take vitamins, but rather that it's a good idea |
| 23:08.15 | Shirik | but there's no substitute for eating healthy |
| 23:08.37 | tekkub | IVs |
| 23:10.01 | miica | and i am kind active person too my normal run is around 12km |
| 23:10.40 | miica | and also done one half marathon |
| 23:11.00 | Shirik | then you should be taking vitamins! |
| 23:11.27 | miica | haha :D |
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| 23:12.07 | miica | i sometimes take proteins :D |
| 23:13.18 | miica | but thats is only before gym trainings |
| 23:14.11 | miica | because you need to have some mass if you wanna build... need to check word :D |
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| 23:14.45 | miica | muscle ! |
| 23:15.13 | Shirik | yes |
| 23:15.23 | Shirik | you should take protein too |
| 23:15.25 | Shirik | before and after |
| 23:15.37 | Shirik | esp. after if you're trying to build |
| 23:15.51 | haste | aren't you suppose to take "lots" first, then "less" after? |
| 23:16.04 | Shirik | you could say that for some definition of "less" |
| 23:16.13 | Shirik | "less" is still a significant amount |
| 23:16.25 | haste | yep |
| 23:16.48 | Shirik | Powerbar makes good "recovery bars" which have quite a bit of protein in them |
| 23:17.09 | miica | i just eat more :P |
| 23:17.29 | miica | it is more fun :) |
| 23:17.40 | Shirik | lol |
| 23:18.40 | miica | yeah truth is that i like to move just because then i can eat more :( |
| 23:18.44 | Shirik | rofl |
| 23:19.12 | Shirik | I like to move because I want to stop looking like a stick :) |
| 23:19.21 | Shirik | I actually could be one of those guys in XKCD comics |
| 23:19.24 | Shirik | and you wouldn't notice the difference |
| 23:19.55 | miica | i got kinda big bones and shoulders so i dont realy look like geek :D |
| 23:20.37 | Iriel | Hm, I just had a compulsion to go play some rock band, guess I should obey. |
| 23:21.02 | Iriel | [drums, in case anyone cares[ |
| 23:21.17 | miica | you failed |
| 23:21.22 | miica | you should end that with ] |
| 23:26.10 | Iriel | ]] |
| 23:27.13 | miica | now you are missing [ :< |
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