| 00:01.32 | alestane | ~framexml |
| 00:01.33 | purl | Official: (Mac) http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/AddOnKit.dmg, (Win) http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/AddOnKit.zip. Compare: http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser |
| 00:02.45 | alestane | Yay, they actually work at the moment. |
| 00:03.33 | *** join/#wowuidev theorb (~theorb@91.84.53.6) |
| 00:04.09 | Thunder_Child | ââ¦but I thought mountains only grew in cold places?â >.< |
| 00:05.18 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: thats why i think they're getting more and more bs stories |
| 00:06.06 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: to what end? |
| 00:06.34 | Kraps | people like trolling? |
| 00:11.15 | MoonWitch | i'm going to miss you guys .. (assuming they block IRC) |
| 00:11.45 | Kraps | they? |
| 00:13.15 | Dagmar | Network filtering is for people who don't have skilled friends. |
| 00:13.39 | MoonWitch | I go by the assumption hospital IT ppl aren't top notch |
| 00:13.46 | MoonWitch | a hospital can't afford skilled people |
| 00:14.06 | Dagmar | Good thing I set all my own bones. |
| 00:14.42 | MoonWitch | is too unskilled for such matters |
| 00:14.46 | Kraps | i agree with the RealID qq |
| 00:15.05 | Dagmar | No you don't. |
| 00:15.15 | Dagmar | Nixon had nothing to do with any of it. |
| 00:15.51 | Dagmar | He's been dead awhile now, which provides him with a suprisingly good alibi. |
| 00:15.52 | Kraps | dont we hammer into ourselves the importance of putting as little real life info online as possible? |
| 00:16.11 | Cide | yes |
| 00:16.13 | Cide | 10 years ago |
| 00:16.18 | Cide | now there's facebook |
| 00:16.25 | Dagmar | Ah... I think this falls into the category of "What is it about the word "friends" that confuses you?" |
| 00:16.46 | Dagmar | Regardless of how popular it makes one look on Facebook, people HAVE TO ACCEPT that everone they've ever met is NOT their friend. |
| 00:17.04 | NightHawkTheSane | MoonWitch: set up irssi in a screen session on some remote server, then just ssh in ;) |
| 00:17.27 | Dagmar | | Client Uptime: 45d 3h 53m 8s |
| 00:17.33 | Dagmar | Screen rawks |
| 00:17.57 | Kraps | there are anecdotes of people getting asked to friend others who they play with, even if they've never met irl |
| 00:18.11 | MoonWitch | NightHawkTheSane: I can't leave my homepc on for so long :( |
| 00:18.25 | NightHawkTheSane | MoonWitch: so dont use that? :P |
| 00:18.34 | Dagmar | Kraps: Ask them what flavors are most popular with guys in large white vans. |
| 00:18.43 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm running from my linode, personally |
| 00:19.15 | NightHawkTheSane | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:19.16 | Dagmar | Here's a measuring stick which should be a no-brainer.. |
| 00:19.20 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 00:19.27 | MoonWitch | can't I ssh into your linode |
| 00:19.30 | Dagmar | If you can't trust them with your real name and email addres THEY ARE PROBABLY NOT ACTUALLY YOUR FRIEND. |
| 00:19.36 | MoonWitch | (oh god that sounded soooooo dirty) |
| 00:19.45 | Kraps | Dagmar: heh, but what if a longtime guildmaster asks you to do it? |
| 00:19.47 | NightHawkTheSane | winks |
| 00:19.50 | Dagmar | MoonWitch: More sad than dirty, really |
| 00:20.13 | MoonWitch | dagmar, i am not hiring a vps just for irc for 5 days :P |
| 00:20.29 | Dagmar | Kraps: If you can't trust them with your name and email, then they're probably a serial killer of some kind for you to know them that long and STILL not trust them |
| 00:20.31 | NightHawkTheSane | who said anything about just for five days? they're handy in general :) |
| 00:21.03 | Dagmar | Gotta follow those instincts and maybe tell a cop |
| 00:21.44 | A-KO | okay |
| 00:21.45 | A-KO | I like real ID |
| 00:21.49 | A-KO | but there is a tiny bug :P |
| 00:21.50 | A-KO | but nonetheless |
| 00:21.51 | A-KO | it rules |
| 00:22.13 | Kraps | Dagmar: i'm talking about "knowing" them just from the game |
| 00:22.15 | Amarande | what's the bug? |
| 00:22.23 | Amarande | also, do your outgoing real id requests show on pending or only ones incoming? |
| 00:22.34 | A-KO | only incoming afaik |
| 00:22.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: yes |
| 00:22.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Shadowed: sorry for the ping, lol |
| 00:22.54 | A-KO | Amarande: the bug, and it's pretty obvious--if you have a few friends, they can easily pick out which friends in a conversation go to which friend on your friend's list |
| 00:23.07 | Dagmar | Kraps: This is what happens when you have a bunch of people whose idea of personal relationships is so distorted that they think it's a good idea to paste ASCII images of sodomy to strangers |
| 00:23.08 | A-KO | if you have like an army of friends probably not, but if you have like 1 or 2 |
| 00:23.10 | A-KO | they can figure it out |
| 00:23.33 | Dagmar | How is that a bug? |
| 00:23.40 | A-KO | Dagmar: I'd say an oversight :P |
| 00:23.55 | A-KO | or, short-sightedness |
| 00:24.05 | Dagmar | What about the vowels? |
| 00:24.22 | Dagmar | If they can see your consonants, they might be able to figure out you typed the vowels! |
| 00:25.08 | A-KO | it's weird.....you can view your real ID friend's friends list--and see all of the names, but not accounts--so it gives you the opportunity to add people you might know...on the other hand, if you invite everyone to a conversation--people not on each other's friends list only see their character names |
| 00:25.11 | A-KO | Name* |
| 00:25.12 | A-KO | like that |
| 00:26.16 | Dagmar | I get the feeling a lot of these people are having problems because outside of WoW they have no friends and wouldn't know what to do with them if they had them. |
| 00:26.26 | A-KO | lol |
| 00:26.33 | A-KO | I guess so |
| 00:27.24 | Dagmar | 'cuz seriously, if you get bent out of shape over the idea that your friends friends might find out your name, it's time to kiss mom goodbye and move out of the trailer park. |
| 00:28.04 | Dagmar | On the flipside... these people won't be competing for mates. |
| 00:28.33 | eidolarr | thank god we have cool dagmar to tell the losers what to do |
| 00:28.48 | eidolarr | is there some meants of refusing access to your table's metatable with getmetatable() ? |
| 00:28.50 | eidolarr | i swear there was |
| 00:28.54 | eidolarr | but i can't find it |
| 00:29.03 | eidolarr | also refusing setmetatable() |
| 00:29.20 | Dagmar | eidolarr: Someone's got to, since clearly their parents failed utterly in their attempts at socializing their children. |
| 00:29.52 | Dagmar | I honestly can't remmeber the last time I saw so much wooly-headed bullshit posted to the forums. |
| 00:30.11 | eidolarr | if only they could all grow up to be upstanding socialites, talking shit anonymously about general groups of people on remote irc chatrooms |
| 00:30.15 | Dagmar | If there's actual problem with RealID, Blizz will never be able to find it in amongst all the shrieking retard posts. |
| 00:30.38 | Dagmar | eidolarr: Good thing I know you're not talking about me when you said "anonymously" |
| 00:31.34 | eidolarr | an enormous amount of blind negativity comes out of this chatroom aimed at general categories of "other" people, with no attempt at empathy, and it bothers me |
| 00:32.02 | Dagmar | Have you taken a look at the state of humanity as it exists on the internet? |
| 00:32.20 | Dagmar | I've actually been reading through this RealID stuff for about three hours today |
| 00:33.13 | Dagmar | Usually there's a few key misconceptions that can be addressed for something like this, but in this case it seems most of these people don't have a clue what a "friend" is beyond something you do to look cool on Facebook/myspace |
| 00:33.26 | Dagmar | That's freaking disturbing from a sociology standpoint. |
| 00:33.40 | Kraps | are you denying that a dedicated psycho can find info on you just from your full name? |
| 00:33.48 | A-KO | Kraps: yes |
| 00:33.51 | A-KO | they can't |
| 00:33.56 | eidolarr | it depends |
| 00:34.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Okay, I've gotta jet. later. |
| 00:34.03 | eidolarr | one of my friends has a very distinctive name lol |
| 00:34.12 | A-KO | Kraps: not a single security design implementation cares about your name as it stands by itself |
| 00:34.18 | A-KO | nor about e-mail address |
| 00:34.22 | Dagmar | Kraps: If you're using a relatively unique 'nym they can. If your name happens to be Paul Roberts that they're looking for, on the other hand, there's about 22,000 of them in the United States alone. |
| 00:34.32 | *** join/#wowuidev Kandoko1 (~Kandoko@adsl-068-159-119-207.sip.gsp.bellsouth.net) |
| 00:34.35 | *** join/#wowuidev Kandoko (~Kandoko@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Developer/Kandoko) |
| 00:34.41 | A-KO | any and all IT security is reliant on name + personal info (addy/CC/SSN) |
| 00:34.43 | A-KO | anything beyond that |
| 00:34.45 | alestane | eidolarr: set the __metatable field of the metatable itself. |
| 00:34.52 | A-KO | from a legal standpoint, nobody cares |
| 00:34.57 | Dagmar | A-ko: You might want to re-read that |
| 00:34.58 | A-KO | your name by itself isn't enough to worry about |
| 00:35.20 | alestane | That value will be returned by getmetatable and will obstruct setmetatable from working. |
| 00:35.25 | A-KO | Dagmar: huh? |
| 00:35.37 | eidolarr | alestane: that |
| 00:35.38 | Dagmar | "IT security" based on addy/CC/SSN? |
| 00:35.41 | Dagmar | No. |
| 00:35.44 | eidolarr | alestane: thanks |
| 00:35.49 | A-KO | Dagmar: I meant either/or |
| 00:35.50 | A-KO | like |
| 00:35.54 | A-KO | Name + CC needs to be protected |
| 00:35.55 | Dagmar | OKay. :) |
| 00:35.56 | A-KO | Name by itself doesnt |
| 00:36.00 | A-KO | name + SSN = protected |
| 00:36.01 | A-KO | name = not |
| 00:36.02 | A-KO | etc. |
| 00:36.15 | Dagmar | A name and SSN need to be protected because banks are run by assholes. |
| 00:36.15 | eidolarr | A-KO: that's silly, people flipped their shit when google buzz accidentally released (some) contact lists |
| 00:36.33 | eidolarr | your real name is absolutely valuable, regardless of the "security design implementation" |
| 00:36.46 | Dagmar | A name and CC don't need to be protected, because the CC# shouldn't be there in the first place. All but the final four digits are supposed to be private. |
| 00:37.04 | A-KO | eidolarr: To be 100% honest with you, it's more of a paradigm shift that people are scared of than any real need for security. We've spent nearly 2 decades of internet now as aliases and accounts, this whole "using your real name" thing is new territory for a lot of people. |
| 00:37.25 | A-KO | that |
| 00:37.28 | A-KO | and overblwon media hype |
| 00:37.30 | A-KO | STALKERS |
| 00:37.31 | A-KO | PSYCHOS |
| 00:37.32 | A-KO | KILLERS |
| 00:37.37 | eidolarr | A-KO: actually, there were many reported incidents where human rights activists got in deep shit by having their contact lists exposed |
| 00:37.52 | Dagmar | A-ko: I am suspicious that a great deal of it has to do with that they're finally being asked to benefit at the "expense" of not being completely anonymous, even among their own friends. |
| 00:37.54 | A-KO | eidolarr: that's fine, but taht doesn't mean there's any legal means anyone has.. |
| 00:38.12 | A-KO | Dagmar: clarify? Sorry, don't follow :P |
| 00:38.12 | Dagmar | They're upset that they can't act like galloping cocktardds all the time, and just walk away from the mess when it blows up |
| 00:38.12 | eidolarr | just because there's no legal right doesn't mean concerns are unjustified |
| 00:38.15 | A-KO | ah |
| 00:38.16 | A-KO | yeah Dagmar |
| 00:39.04 | A-KO | Dagmar: I mean, the reality is, real ID is pretty limited to whomever you want it as--so if you're real ID friends with a guildie, and he's real ID friends with another guildie--they aren't really going to be able to figure out if you're that real ID friend or not |
| 00:39.09 | A-KO | minus the whole thing I mentioned earlier |
| 00:39.12 | Dagmar | Pretty sure none of these people were online when BBSes "required" real names |
| 00:39.18 | A-KO | lol |
| 00:39.25 | eidolarr | i mean, imagine google published your email address and your full name and etc, then said "it's ok, we have the legal right" |
| 00:39.26 | A-KO | I used to run a BBS--hello phone number! |
| 00:39.29 | A-KO | that was always fun |
| 00:39.34 | A-KO | now it's IP addresses, which you don't own |
| 00:39.37 | A-KO | but you definitely owned your phone # |
| 00:39.48 | Dagmar | A-ko: These people aren't entitled to complain after they blatantly change the scope of the "friend" relationship like that |
| 00:39.52 | A-KO | eidolarr: most companies do :P |
| 00:40.12 | Dagmar | A-ko: yeah even then I used this 'nym, because of psychos |
| 00:40.14 | A-KO | eidolarr: honestly, almost any site that requires you to create an account with them shares that information--it's a fact |
| 00:40.16 | A-KO | it's how they make $ |
| 00:40.45 | eidolarr | being able to see the full names of friends of friends is not the same as a big corporation trading around general info for bucks |
| 00:40.56 | A-KO | honestly |
| 00:41.01 | A-KO | I'd prefer the former |
| 00:41.03 | A-KO | MUCH before the latter |
| 00:41.05 | A-KO | but that's just me |
| 00:41.13 | eidolarr | the former implies the latter |
| 00:41.14 | Dagmar | People using their real names would get mad about people using 'nyms because (as they claimed) someone using a nym doesn't really have to "live" with their own words. They can pack up shop, change nyms, and pretend it never happened. |
| 00:41.28 | A-KO | yeah Dagmar |
| 00:41.52 | A-KO | I'm facebook friends with people I met in WoW, and facebook friends with people I know on IRC |
| 00:41.53 | A-KO | so |
| 00:42.03 | A-KO | some of those (many) I've never met in person |
| 00:42.05 | A-KO | and probably never will |
| 00:42.11 | Dagmar | I'm facebook friends with actual friends, and no one else. |
| 00:42.24 | A-KO | honestly, people really do overblow the whole media hype BS |
| 00:42.36 | eidolarr | the friends of friends sharing system is itself extremely shitty imo, it relies on your friends all being as sensible with their privacy as you |
| 00:42.51 | A-KO | eidolarr: but the thing is, nobody can see who you are |
| 00:42.53 | A-KO | they can't message you |
| 00:42.57 | A-KO | they don't know your account info |
| 00:43.00 | A-KO | they don't see your character |
| 00:43.10 | A-KO | it's literally a list of names as ify ou just outputted an array |
| 00:43.11 | A-KO | that's it |
| 00:43.21 | A-KO | it's actually a pretty basic UI to it |
| 00:43.24 | eidolarr | if my real life friend friended my guild leader, the guild leader would immediately know me |
| 00:43.30 | eidolarr | and most of the people in the guild |
| 00:43.31 | A-KO | no they wouldn't |
| 00:43.36 | eidolarr | it doesn't even take social engineernig, jsut common sense |
| 00:43.53 | A-KO | eidolarr: that's assuming you're the only real ID friend your friend has |
| 00:43.56 | eidolarr | yes, they would |
| 00:44.04 | A-KO | and you admit to it |
| 00:44.06 | A-KO | lol |
| 00:44.08 | eidolarr | no |
| 00:44.10 | A-KO | yes |
| 00:44.19 | A-KO | how would they know it's you? Does your friend address you by your first name in WoW? |
| 00:44.26 | A-KO | or on vent? |
| 00:44.28 | eidolarr | no one has to prove my name beyond the shadow of a doubt in court |
| 00:44.46 | eidolarr | but my guild leader knows we are all rl friends, he knows three of us are male and one female |
| 00:44.49 | Dagmar | There's generally a birth certificate for that, but it's beside the point. |
| 00:45.00 | Dagmar | In court, an alias works *just fine* |
| 00:45.03 | eidolarr | if he gets friended adn can see 4 or 5 new people it's not hard to figure out who's who with reasonable accuracy |
| 00:45.19 | A-KO | you know I got into this same argument with a really close friend of mine over the whole facebook fiasco last month--and then I pointed out to her some stuff she did and probably should be more concerned about |
| 00:45.30 | Dagmar | So if you don't want your guild leader knowing your names, don't realID him |
| 00:45.48 | eidolarr | Dagmar: again, i'm talking about if my less-responsible friend realIDs him |
| 00:45.59 | A-KO | I'm just going to go out on a whim here, but I would say as far as "crazy psychotic stalkers"--you're more likely to encounter one randomly, in a club, a bar, at work, somewhere IN PERSON--long before you'd encounter one on WoW |
| 00:46.00 | A-KO | but that's just me |
| 00:46.20 | A-KO | Not saying it's impossible |
| 00:46.21 | Dagmar | eidolarr: It's still reaching. It's rather more likely the guild leader will just *ask* your friend, and he'll tell him |
| 00:46.22 | A-KO | not by any means |
| 00:46.51 | Dagmar | It wouldn't kill them to put a FoF checkbox in place |
| 00:46.55 | Dagmar | ...which they probably already have |
| 00:46.57 | eidolarr | Dagmar: if you played with a RL friend and someone online asked for their full name woul you tell them? |
| 00:47.10 | A-KO | I just don't see the aversion to it |
| 00:47.11 | Dagmar | eidolarr: only if they already knew them |
| 00:47.11 | A-KO | sorry :P |
| 00:47.12 | eidolarr | not even my dumbass friend would do that lol |
| 00:47.29 | Dagmar | eidolarr: ...in which case they wouldn't need to ask. |
| 00:47.52 | eidolarr | A-KO: maybe you don't think there's a problem, that's fine, but you should at least see that there is some justifiable grounds on which other people could take issue |
| 00:48.04 | A-KO | eidolarr: there aren't any |
| 00:48.05 | A-KO | sorry |
| 00:48.07 | A-KO | there just aren't |
| 00:48.13 | A-KO | if I had your real name it would do me no good |
| 00:48.19 | Dagmar | "Flamingcockrogue is John Smitty" is a differnet sort of from "Failtank knows Flamingcockrogue, and Failtank knows John Smitty in real life" |
| 00:48.22 | Thunder_Child | "She vajazzled her vag. It was as useless as putting earrings on chewbacca." *snicker* |
| 00:48.55 | Cide | hey look, I found Shirik: http://i25.tinypic.com/mv6ohh.jpg |
| 00:49.01 | eidolarr | A-KO: do you read comp.risks? |
| 00:49.08 | A-KO | eidolarr: There is nothing anyone can do with real name alone--now, real name + the town where you live? maybe, they could narrow it down a bit I suppose--but really, that's all media myth |
| 00:49.11 | Jerub | readid is awesome. |
| 00:49.11 | A-KO | nothing more, nothing less |
| 00:49.16 | Thunder_Child | Cide: err....which one? |
| 00:49.26 | Cide | you clearly didn't read it |
| 00:49.39 | eidolarr | A-KO: have you ever done any social engineering? any tidbit of information leads you to more |
| 00:49.51 | A-KO | Cide: they forgot WoW :( |
| 00:49.53 | Dagmar | Yeah except in this case the dish is very small and shallow |
| 00:49.55 | eidolarr | personal details are slowly leaking out |
| 00:50.14 | A-KO | eidolarr: and ultimately, what does it do to you? That's the thing. |
| 00:50.17 | A-KO | What is ultimately bad about it? |
| 00:50.18 | cog|away | vuvuzelas Fisker around a bit with a large vuvuzela. |
| 00:50.20 | Dagmar | I don't notice comp.risks freaking out about RealID so there's a good chance this ain't no big thing |
| 00:50.45 | eidolarr | well they are not exactly closely following WoW's development lol |
| 00:50.47 | A-KO | like I said before |
| 00:51.02 | Jerub | i had a problem in a raid last night |
| 00:51.06 | Kraps | k cog you made me laugh |
| 00:51.14 | Jerub | 5fps during any fights in a 10 man |
| 00:51.22 | A-KO | Everyone complains about WoW and Facebook--nevermind the myriad of random ATMs people shove their bank cards into to pull out some money while they're out drinking--some random ATM in some random bar/store somewhere. |
| 00:51.25 | A-KO | trust me |
| 00:51.33 | A-KO | you have MORE to worry about from that than someone having your name in WoW |
| 00:51.36 | Jerub | had to disable all my addons, i did it with just DBM+oUF_freebgrid+clique and got 30+fps |
| 00:51.44 | Jerub | is there any way to figure out which addon is the culprit? |
| 00:51.45 | Kraps | Cide: thats not the full version |
| 00:51.52 | Dagmar | Jerub Install then one at a time |
| 00:51.55 | Cide | well aint that too bad! |
| 00:52.05 | Jerub | Dagmar: but it only happens in 10mans :( it didn't happen in my 5man |
| 00:52.06 | eidolarr | A-KO: false dichotomy, that there are worse things doesn't justify this |
| 00:52.13 | eidolarr | i'm sorry not false dichotomy |
| 00:52.16 | A-KO | if people knew half of what was going on with their personal information they'd destroy their computers and never log on to the internet again, and use cash only |
| 00:52.18 | eidolarr | what's that one called |
| 00:52.19 | Jerub | wonders if there's a 'addon test' guild who runs 10mans on my server.... |
| 00:52.31 | A-KO | as soon as you're on the grid, you're there. |
| 00:52.32 | A-KO | that's it |
| 00:52.32 | A-KO | done |
| 00:52.53 | Jerub | A-KO: am i the only person who is thinking about just changing their name mid-career so that stuff on the internet won't come back to bite them? |
| 00:52.55 | Dagmar | Jerub: Sounds like mebbe yer raid frames addon is to blame |
| 00:53.05 | A-KO | Jerub: sounds like a good idea :P |
| 00:53.13 | Jerub | Dagmar: that's ouf_freebgrid, and i kept it on |
| 00:53.37 | A-KO | like |
| 00:53.38 | Cide | Jerub, I trust in doing stuff that won't bite you in the future period |
| 00:53.40 | A-KO | here's a thing |
| 00:53.52 | Dagmar | Well, technically you don't have to do it by installing ALL the rest one at a time |
| 00:53.58 | A-KO | people posting iphone pictures/cell phone pictures/geotagged pictures from their cameras on flickr/facebook/etc. |
| 00:54.00 | A-KO | and not caring :P |
| 00:54.17 | Dagmar | Splitting the remainder into two groups should handle it |
| 00:54.34 | Dagmar | A-ko: Oh man that was SWEET when the iPhone first came out |
| 00:54.48 | Jerub | Cide: yeah, but i was on usenet when i was 11. |
| 00:54.55 | eidolarr | lol |
| 00:54.57 | A-KO | lol Dagmar |
| 00:54.58 | Dagmar | Find a cute girl in a myspace pic, examine exif... "Hey baby, you mind if I come over late at night while you're asleep?" |
| 00:54.59 | A-KO | yeah |
| 00:55.00 | eidolarr | "and that is a story for another time" |
| 00:55.01 | Jerub | Cide: in the early 90's. |
| 00:55.11 | A-KO | Dagmar: they got rid of that sometime during the upgrades--I used to clear the exif data |
| 00:55.14 | A-KO | then it just stopped putting it there |
| 00:55.15 | Dagmar | IIRC Myspace had to start filtering for that |
| 00:55.19 | A-KO | the new OS puts it there now, but prompts you to use the GPS |
| 00:55.52 | Dagmar | It's also something you have to turn on explcitly now. Originally it just tagged coordinates in a lot of people's phones by default |
| 00:56.20 | Dagmar | Great for 24-year-old nature photograher by default |
| 00:56.27 | Dagmar | Not so much for 14-year old girl |
| 00:56.29 | A-KO | yeah |
| 00:56.32 | A-KO | I found it funny :P |
| 00:56.59 | Dagmar | Well, me and mine actually knew some underage girls online |
| 00:57.15 | Dagmar | Mainlyl people's little sisters. That sort of thing. |
| 00:57.35 | Dagmar | There was more than a bit of running around, hitting someone's little sister's site, and then making phone calls laughing our butts off |
| 00:57.36 | NeoTron | Dagmar: hmm.. was your handle Big Daddy? |
| 00:58.26 | Dagmar | THey'd be so careful to not mention anything that could get them stalked, and then there's GPS data in their pic which shows a rather anonymous looking neighbor's house out the window |
| 00:58.40 | Dagmar | One trip to Google Maps and you can send them pack a picture with an arrow pointing at their bedroom window from the outside. |
| 00:59.20 | Kraps | Dagmar: that line would work if you convince her that you're edward |
| 00:59.24 | A-KO | haha Kraps |
| 00:59.27 | Dagmar | lol |
| 01:01.06 | A-KO | well |
| 01:01.11 | A-KO | the new iphone camera isn't as good as a legit camera |
| 01:01.13 | A-KO | but still pretty good |
| 01:01.17 | Dagmar | One of my coworkers used to joke that he knew more about his son's girlfriend than his son did |
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| 01:27.56 | NightHawkTheSane | sighs |
| 01:28.00 | NightHawkTheSane | yay, frostscythe |
| 01:29.07 | Thunder_Child | gratz |
| 01:29.10 | Amarande | you know, they should just make scythes a real weapon type |
| 01:29.14 | Thunder_Child | i wants it |
| 01:29.23 | Amarande | maybe in cata, so people don't have to bitch about "god you're making us train another weapon to 400" |
| 01:29.39 | Amarande | scythes make me miss guild wars, though |
| 01:30.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: i dont want it. it was a nice 29g, though |
| 01:30.25 | Thunder_Child | -_- |
| 01:31.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: meh, i'm not into fancy weaponry that i'll never actually use so much. :\ |
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| 01:31.20 | NightHawkTheSane | i would murder a small puppy for that minipet, though |
| 01:31.20 | Jerub | i want that on my mage |
| 01:31.31 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane: well it's an upgrade for my lock |
| 01:31.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Jerub: yeah, on my mage it would be nice |
| 01:31.39 | Dagmar | Amarande: DOubtful since I think pretty much everyone trained everything they could to 400 already just for the one achievement |
| 01:31.43 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: my sympathies? |
| 01:32.03 | Amarande | Dagmar: what I mean is |
| 01:32.05 | Jerub | so |
| 01:32.07 | Amarande | if they added in a *new* weapon type |
| 01:32.09 | Thunder_Child | heh, i have been lax on my lock anyway |
| 01:32.10 | Amarande | people would bitch :) |
| 01:32.10 | Jerub | we had a spill overnight apparently. |
| 01:32.12 | Jerub | not as bad as yours |
| 01:32.17 | Amarande | unless it was in cata and thus no need to train up |
| 01:32.18 | Jerub | but it did knock our PM out |
| 01:32.24 | NightHawkTheSane | i think we need less weapon types, not more, imo :P |
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| 01:32.37 | Dagmar | I would like that scythe on my 'lock and not my hunter (who just got it) but I'll be damned if I'm going to grind that warlock the last two and a half levels for it |
| 01:32.40 | Amarande | yeah, can't they consolidate 2H sword and 2H axe into like "2H blade" or something |
| 01:32.47 | NightHawkTheSane | swords and axes can be merged. |
| 01:32.54 | Amarande | it would also make swords no longer suck for arms warriors |
| 01:32.56 | NightHawkTheSane | and maces and fists, maybe. |
| 01:32.57 | Jerub | NightHawkTheSane: except for the orc racial |
| 01:33.07 | cog|away | jnwhiteh: it's significantly thinner thanks to Kanji |
| 01:33.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Jerub: so make it sword & axe racial? :P |
| 01:33.27 | Jerub | NightHawkTheSane: that would mean that the racial would actual have a reason to exist, and that would be horrible. |
| 01:33.30 | cog|away | only 870 pages |
| 01:33.31 | Amarande | also, 1H sword, 1H axe, and dagger could be combined into "light blade" |
| 01:33.47 | NightHawkTheSane | but, the system as is works well enough, so meh. |
| 01:33.53 | Jerub | Amarande: no. druids can use daggers but not swords/axes |
| 01:33.59 | cog|away | http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4165687&l=ee35e7ab0d&id=563064469 |
| 01:34.01 | Amarande | and in cata apparently everyone auto-gets knowledge of all weapon types their class can use |
| 01:34.01 | Dagmar | Amarande: Sure. Let's have people stabbing with axes |
| 01:34.11 | Amarande | Dagmar: you'll have exactly that with rogues in cata actually |
| 01:34.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: meh, we already handwave past enough stuff like that anyway |
| 01:34.19 | Amarande | they've announced that rogue skills are no longer going to be weapon specific :) |
| 01:34.21 | Dagmar | I'm with you for sword+axe, because they're both swung in an arc. |
| 01:34.23 | Dagmar | Not daggers. |
| 01:34.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Jerub: obviously there'd be quirks like that to work out, which is one big reason i suspect it wouldn't happen |
| 01:35.01 | Dagmar | ...but you should be asking yourself a much more important question... |
| 01:35.08 | Dagmar | "How much of my shit do I want hunters rolling on?" |
| 01:35.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: touche, good sir. |
| 01:35.38 | NightHawkTheSane | obviously, hunters would have to be modified to only use "strange-looking-shit-no-one-else-wants" |
| 01:35.41 | cog|away | Q freaking Q... They used my draft images i got pissed at them for using in the first English printing /sigh |
| 01:35.44 | Amarande | Dagmar: hunters already roll on pretty much anything that has agi |
| 01:35.53 | Dagmar | ...which is most things. |
| 01:36.08 | Dagmar | With the right spec we could start rolling on +sta/+str and mean it. ;) |
| 01:36.18 | Amarande | it gets fun when you have a hunter, a frost DK, and a rogue as your three DPS |
| 01:36.18 | Jerub | in other news, my guild did a raid last night for the first time in 3 months! |
| 01:36.39 | Jerub | Amarande: why are you talking as if people roll on gear in heroics? |
| 01:36.46 | Amarande | Jerub: in ICC5's they do |
| 01:36.55 | Amarande | sometimes in ToC5, too |
| 01:37.03 | Dagmar | I just spent a little time poking at Passloot |
| 01:37.10 | Jerub | Amarande: sure. in your moon world where people still need gear there. |
| 01:37.21 | Amarande | Jerub: sure you do |
| 01:37.26 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm. fury vs arms warrior leveling, any opinions? |
| 01:37.38 | NightHawkTheSane | (in two sentences or less.) |
| 01:37.49 | Amarande | you need to max out from ToC5 and ICC5 so you can meet the GS so you can go to ToC10/25, so you can get the gear so you can meet the GS so you can get accepted to ICC10 which you will do forever in order to get the gear you need to meet the GS to be accepted to ICC25 |
| 01:37.55 | Jerub | NightHawkTheSane: prot. lfd. |
| 01:38.00 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: Whichever one kills moar fasterer |
| 01:38.00 | Amarande | Night: arms |
| 01:38.16 | NightHawkTheSane | Jerub: already have prot dual spec, actually |
| 01:38.17 | Amarande | arms and fury both kill pretty efficiently, but I feel more secure with arms |
| 01:38.26 | Amarande | mainly because with arms, you don't have to use berserker stance and take extra damage |
| 01:38.47 | Jerub | NightHawkTheSane: when i quest, i go prot |
| 01:38.51 | Dagmar | Well, specfically I mean which one can kill more guys at once reliably |
| 01:38.52 | Amarande | arms also doesn't require DW, and the additional hit associated therewith |
| 01:39.01 | Dagmar | ...so you won't complain about being overwhelmed by three kobolds or something |
| 01:39.07 | Jerub | NightHawkTheSane: and i'm so massively overgeared for the question because i'm in dungeon gear, nothing can hurt me |
| 01:39.20 | Jerub | s/question/questing |
| 01:39.28 | Amarande | I was gonna say also gets better weapon choices but TG makes it easy for fury |
| 01:39.31 | Amarande | fury would suck without TG, heh |
| 01:39.42 | Amarande | mainly because of the utter and complete lack of any 1H melee weapons with str |
| 01:39.52 | Amarande | at least, ones that aren't made for tanks |
| 01:40.16 | Amarande | wonders if this is going to result in a serious power down for DW frost DKs come 4.0 |
| 01:40.18 | Jerub | NightHawkTheSane: but i very rarely quest. |
| 01:40.24 | Amarande | until they have access to actual cata gear |
| 01:40.35 | NightHawkTheSane | you both are well past two sentances, so i stopped paying attentino. |
| 01:41.04 | NightHawkTheSane | that said, I'm really fucking annoyed with whatever is up with wow/my system that's making my cursor jump ALL OVER THE FUCKING PLACE. |
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| 01:43.04 | Dagmar | wireless mouse? |
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| 01:44.15 | Amarande | Night: cat hair in the mouse sensor? |
| 01:44.29 | NightHawkTheSane | no. and no. |
| 01:44.34 | Dagmar | No one uses mice with balls anymore |
| 01:44.36 | NightHawkTheSane | it only happens with wow open |
| 01:44.49 | NightHawkTheSane | doesn't even happen ALL the time. >< |
| 01:44.52 | Amarande | Dagmar: actually, that's why cat hair is more of a problem now |
| 01:44.57 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: Weeeird |
| 01:45.16 | Amarande | instead of just jamming the mouse, if it gets in the sensor it can cause all kinds of random movement when the laser picks up the piece of cat hair and thinks it's the mousing surface |
| 01:45.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: yeah, tell me about it, its a recent thing to.. |
| 01:45.32 | Amarande | usually when that happens to me I end up facing the ground and spinning |
| 01:45.57 | Dagmar | Buy a laser mouse |
| 01:46.30 | Dagmar | Being that they're so dramatically overkill they can be used on a glass tabletop, nothing really makes them screw up |
| 01:46.34 | Amarande | Dagmar: laser mice don't seem any less vulnerable to the cat hair spin than regular opticals |
| 01:46.45 | Amarande | like I said, the problem is that a small solid opaque object like cat hair confuses the laser |
| 01:46.58 | Amarande | it thinks you're moving the mouse on THAT, and not the surface you're moving it on |
| 01:46.58 | Dagmar | I smoke and do microelectronics work at my desk. |
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| 01:47.20 | Dagmar | I have rather a high quantity of such particles around it |
| 01:47.42 | Dagmar | My mice do not run amok |
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| 01:52.47 | Amarande | small things, like dust, don't seem to do it |
| 01:53.05 | Amarande | it's primarily objects like cat hair, which are long enough to both get caught in the mouse sensor *and* have a bit hanging out so the mouse pushes on it too |
| 01:53.13 | Amarande | so you're moving the mouse and you've got a MOVING object over the sensor |
| 01:53.31 | Dagmar | There's nowhere for anyting to get caught on my mice |
| 01:54.38 | Dagmar | Not even this somewhat cheap-o one I use here at the office |
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| 02:00.03 | Amarande | ahh, you must not use the same mouse that i do |
| 02:01.23 | Dagmar | I've got a number of different ones, but I only have one "optical" mouse anymore. |
| 02:01.27 | Dagmar | All the rest are laser-based. |
| 02:01.32 | Dagmar | None have balls in them. |
| 02:01.42 | Dagmar | I cleaned enough of those goddamn things. |
| 02:02.07 | Dagmar | ...and I started switching to laser because occasionally I have to mouse on dodgy surfaces, like carpet. |
| 02:02.22 | Dagmar | ...and my smoked grey glass coffee table. |
| 02:02.40 | Amarande | wow, and it's a laser mouse where I get the cat hair glitch |
| 02:02.43 | Amarande | but I got that with opticals, too |
| 02:02.59 | Amarande | it must be a fairly specific thing with fairly specific mice, including the G9 |
| 02:03.01 | Dagmar | Have your cat checked for illegal nanotechnology |
| 02:03.12 | Amarande | the laser hole has to be shaped just right for a cat hair to be able to get stuck |
| 02:03.20 | Amarande | and the cat hair has to be long enough that it's getting dragged along under the mouse |
| 02:03.26 | Amarande | I bet if it was entirely caught within the laser hole, it wouldn't do it |
| 02:03.46 | Amarande | but an opaque object being *dragged along under the mouse, directly under the laser* would probably cause weirdness, seeing as that object is wobbling |
| 02:03.53 | Amarande | thus causing the mouse to think you're moving it in ways you aren't |
| 02:04.11 | Dagmar | Well, I have been waving 3-4 human hairs around the hole in mine the last few minutes tyring to see if it would trigger and nothing |
| 02:04.13 | Dagmar | No idea |
| 02:04.37 | Dagmar | Hair from a "cat person" will have to be close enouhg for this experiment |
| 02:06.38 | Kraps | hey, can you play steam games without an internet connection? |
| 02:08.39 | Kraps | y/n |
| 02:08.50 | Kraps | indifferent |
| 02:10.54 | kd3 | yes, just go offline in steam before you pull the plug |
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| 02:12.21 | Thunder_Child | pulls kd3's plug |
| 02:13.04 | Kraps | hawt |
| 02:13.21 | kd3 | modulo of course on-line games... TF2 and the like |
| 02:13.27 | kd3 | >.> |
| 02:13.46 | kd3 | got asked that once and whacked him with the notebook he was holding |
| 02:13.58 | Kraps | lol |
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| 02:26.03 | Pytlask | Anybody know if Clique works in 3.3.5? |
| 02:26.29 | Amarande | haven't used clique since like 2.2 :( |
| 02:26.56 | Amarande | my preferred classes get practically no use out of it pretty much :S |
| 02:27.08 | Amarande | ok, mage might have use for it to make sure arcane intellect is on all applicable people |
| 02:27.11 | Amarande | but that's about it |
| 02:27.18 | Thunder_Child | it does |
| 02:27.27 | Kraps | Pytlask: workd for me |
| 02:27.30 | Amarande | DK and warlock have no use for clique at all |
| 02:27.33 | Kraps | works |
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| 02:28.59 | Kraps | i'm going to see if sims 3 causes a bsod still |
| 02:29.49 | Kraps | can i break my computer like that? |
| 02:29.53 | Hirsute | It's the Simlish. Every time they talk, they're really passing malicious code to ur prosessurz |
| 02:29.55 | Dagmar | Stop runnin' them funny mesh mods |
| 02:30.05 | Dagmar | Oh, and don't ;let it install the 1.12 patch |
| 02:30.17 | Dagmar | Christ EA needs to get their s**t together on that |
| 02:32.14 | Kraps | it crashes when i load, the game doesnt even start |
| 02:32.58 | Kraps | used to |
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| 02:33.57 | kd3 | sighs |
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| 02:35.26 | bluspacecow | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25552675809&sid=1 |
| 02:35.31 | bluspacecow | == awesome |
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| 02:35.45 | bluspacecow | hey wobin |
| 02:35.48 | bluspacecow | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25552675809&sid=1 |
| 02:35.51 | bluspacecow | giggles |
| 02:35.58 | bluspacecow | toast ! the perfect IT fix ! |
| 02:37.34 | Kraps | offers bluspacecow a chillaxative |
| 02:37.43 | bluspacecow | but its so funny ! |
| 02:37.44 | bluspacecow | :) |
| 02:43.30 | Wobin | hoi Blu |
| 02:43.47 | Dagmar | I have to give props to the person complaining that Blizzard shoudln't make people eat toast. |
| 02:43.57 | Dagmar | That's truly special. |
| 02:43.58 | Wobin | yeah, that fixed it for me too! |
| 02:44.35 | Dagmar | Now I have to sort out whether or not it was wrong for me to read the first bit and think "goddamn mac users" |
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| 02:46.00 | bluspacecow | *giggles* |
| 02:46.04 | bluspacecow | *twirls hair* |
| 02:46.11 | bluspacecow | but like im a real computer user ! |
| 02:47.57 | Kraps | http://www.destructoid.com/ten-golden-rules-of-online-gaming-64474.phtml |
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| 02:50.01 | Kraps | dumb question inc: if the bought version of sims 3 causes bsod's, stands to reason that the cracked version would too, right? |
| 02:51.56 | Hirsute | Dagmar: That reminded me of an old Ctrl-Alt-Del comic that right now I cannot (unfortunately) find. |
| 02:52.20 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: is it patched? |
| 02:52.31 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: oddly rnough, no |
| 02:52.32 | Kraps | what is? |
| 02:52.36 | Thunder_Child | sim |
| 02:52.37 | Thunder_Child | s |
| 02:52.53 | Kraps | the bought one? |
| 02:53.15 | Kraps | idk tbh |
| 02:53.19 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 02:53.49 | Kraps | why? |
| 02:54.35 | Thunder_Child | patches can fix crashes |
| 03:00.57 | Amarande | heh, that's gotta be a take that for EA |
| 03:01.55 | Dagmar | Kraps: Did you buy WAS? |
| 03:01.59 | Dagmar | er WA? |
| 03:02.17 | Kraps | wazzat? |
| 03:02.36 | Dagmar | EA's last patch (in addition to conspicuously not fixing the Exchange problems) introduced a number of new bugs for people |
| 03:03.07 | Dagmar | ...some of which manifest only when World Adventures is installed. Some (like even thinking about building a basement) happen regardless. |
| 03:03.36 | Kraps | no i only bought the original |
| 03:03.48 | Kraps | back when it came out |
| 03:04.08 | Dagmar | Well, all I can suggest then is downloading all the individual patches (all like 12 of them) then uninstalling, and reinstalling but *not* installing the last 1.12.x patch. |
| 03:04.12 | Dagmar | It's been stable for me |
| 03:04.46 | Kraps | i couldnt fix the bsods so i uninstalled it |
| 03:05.02 | Dagmar | Mainly I just try to set up really weird scenarios (like setting people on fire to see what happens) and stuff, but still |
| 03:05.06 | Kraps | i'm downloading it from d2d again |
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| 03:06.18 | Kraps | dammit toc again |
| 03:07.08 | Kraps | the ahune fight sounds like its inside a windtunnel |
| 03:07.12 | Dagmar | ...not that I'm into arson or anything, but fire seems to be the one way to get toons in there to *move* without explicitly ordering them to, and it's the weird pathing bugs I'm hoping to isolate the cause of. |
| 03:07.22 | DWSR | syl |
| 03:07.25 | DWSR | damnit. |
| 03:07.32 | DWSR | anyone seen sylvanaar? |
| 03:08.47 | Dagmar | Kraps: Hmm... Mostly I'm too busy chasing down *ALL THE ADDS* to really pay any attention to the sounds |
| 03:08.48 | Torhal | DWSR: Not since yesterday. He said he wouldn't get to Prat until this weekend, if that's what you're looking for. |
| 03:09.31 | DWSR | Torhal: Yes, it was. Thanks. |
| 03:09.33 | Dagmar | s'all DnD, plague strike, spread it, blood boil, repeat with some death coil and that sword icon thing thrown in whenever they light up |
| 03:10.03 | Jerub | what's the mechanic for ahune btw? is it that you've gotta kill enough adds? or is he on a timer? |
| 03:10.10 | DWSR | Timer. |
| 03:10.16 | Jerub | k |
| 03:10.22 | Dagmar | On the hunter it's a lot less attention gobbling... Just turn on Bestial Wrath, misdirect on the mage, volley, lol |
| 03:11.00 | Dagmar | Most of hte time the mage blinks out of the way. :) |
| 03:11.42 | Dagmar | Keeping the jillion or so little elementals from just running all over hte place is the only really hard part |
| 03:12.27 | Amarande | DWSR: I'm pretty sure it's still in Blade's Edge where it's always been |
| 03:12.31 | Amarande | no one goes there anymore though :( |
| 03:12.32 | DWSR | Not really. |
| 03:12.33 | Dagmar | I'm sure to get smacked for it if I do that to my gf a few more times |
| 03:15.40 | Jerub | on my druid i just heal and on my mage i just dps ahune and ignore all the crap |
| 03:16.04 | Jerub | and my warrior needs to get from 76 to 80 so i can fucking get the cleak |
| 03:16.07 | Jerub | er cloak |
| 03:17.02 | Dagmar | I was originally trying to split the difference on the hunter--sending the monkey after adds (in aggressive mode) and blazing away on Ahune from range, but it doesn't really seem to be a useful tactic. He still burns down on the first trip through being a crystal |
| 03:17.19 | MentalPower | ~seen Kandoko |
| 03:17.21 | purl | kandoko is currently on #norganna (1h 6m 24s) #wowuidev (1h 6m 24s), last said: 'hrm, firefox, does not like 10 MB images'. |
| 03:19.45 | Jerub | Dagmar: with less geared groups, just concentrating on ahune helps because the adds will die anyway with all the aoe going on. |
| 03:19.48 | Jerub | just slower. |
| 03:19.59 | Jerub | but going through two crystal trips on ahune is freaking annoying |
| 03:20.39 | Dagmar | *facepalm* |
| 03:20.59 | Dagmar | I get the feeling that you're about to confim that killing a lot of adds just makes even more spawn |
| 03:21.20 | Dagmar | ...as in "MOAR" quantities of more. |
| 03:21.24 | SeanK | what a good name for a blood elf banker? |
| 03:21.26 | Amarande | Jerub: why does "going through two crystal trips on ahune" sound wrong? |
| 03:21.35 | DWSR | Gay? |
| 03:21.42 | Amarande | Sean: *shrug* ... I just gave mine the next character name I could think of, which was Mornienya |
| 03:21.45 | Jamash | SeanK: sephirothschild |
| 03:22.08 | Amarande | although really Mornienya suits a shadowpriest or warlock more than a mage which I rolled her as :S |
| 03:22.41 | Amarande | or a DK ... it would also work nicely for a DK |
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| 03:25.23 | SeanK | got it "Profitess" and its available |
| 03:26.37 | Dagmar | SeanK: Aurumetrix |
| 03:27.18 | Dagmar | Definitely lots easier to type |
| 03:28.29 | Dagmar | Wnat I was aiming for should likely more properly be Aurummeretrix but very few people are likely to ever get it |
| 03:28.36 | Amarande | Golden Whore? |
| 03:28.50 | Amarande | took four years of Latin |
| 03:28.54 | Dagmar | Mm... pretty much |
| 03:28.54 | SeanK | yeah, somethin like that |
| 03:29.06 | Amarande | as for "Mornienya", that means "My Darkness" in Quenya, if I recall |
| 03:29.18 | Amarande | hence why it probably would have been better on a DK, shadowie or lock |
| 03:39.47 | Kraps | does system restore fix the registry? |
| 03:40.02 | Hirsute | Heh found it: http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20050608 |
| 03:40.37 | Jamash | oh yeah, back when C-A-D was still not funny |
| 03:40.56 | Amarande | ahh, good old ctrl-alt-delete |
| 03:41.08 | Amarande | I still remember the fails of people back in the old DOS Quake days |
| 03:41.14 | Amarande | when they'd bind ctrl alt and del badly |
| 03:41.21 | Amarande | and then proceed to try to do a combo that involved all three of them at once |
| 03:41.29 | Amarande | and then "*has disconnected*" :) |
| 03:41.36 | Hirsute | Heh. I generally only go when I'm directed there, as was the case with this one. Made me chuckle. |
| 03:43.40 | DWSR | Jamash: Some of it is still desperately unfunny. |
| 03:43.45 | DWSR | The SNR is much better though |
| 03:45.25 | Kraps | does system restore fix the registry? |
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| 03:46.56 | Amarande | Evening Cairenn :) |
| 03:47.28 | Cairenn | hi |
| 03:47.49 | Kraps | does it? |
| 03:47.49 | Amarande | how goes? |
| 03:47.55 | Cairenn | ugh |
| 03:47.59 | Torhal | Ugh? |
| 03:48.02 | Torhal | No ugh! |
| 03:48.04 | Amarande | 3.3.5 ruin your UI Cair? :( |
| 03:48.20 | Cairenn | rofl, no, just tech probs |
| 03:49.09 | kd3 | whee, the bnet servers just 503d |
| 03:51.16 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: should |
| 03:51.31 | Kraps | mk |
| 03:51.42 | Kraps | i is a sad lad |
| 03:51.55 | Dagmar | Kraps: It's *supposed* to roll that back, yes |
| 03:52.34 | Amarande | "no one knows what it's like to be the bad man, to be the sad man, behind blue eyes ..." |
| 03:52.53 | Dagmar | Speak for yourself. |
| 03:56.19 | Amarande | watch, itunes will pick the who next |
| 03:56.57 | Amarande | nope, I would be wrong. it picked billy joel. heh |
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| 04:28.14 | Jerub | bored |
| 04:31.20 | Amarande | WoW needs air horns |
| 04:33.29 | Dagmar | Ah yes... Something a player can use to trigger an annoying sound on everyone else's screen... |
| 04:33.39 | Dagmar | Sort of like a vuvuzela horn... |
| 04:33.45 | Dagmar | Perhaps a toy train?/ |
| 04:34.43 | Jerub | i only have 3 button bars on my toons |
| 04:34.55 | Jerub | but all my raiding toons devote an entire button to the train wrecker |
| 04:39.04 | Amarande | Dagmar: heh, where does that train sound come from anyway? |
| 04:39.07 | Amarande | I keep hearing it in SW AH |
| 04:39.41 | Wobin | toy train set |
| 04:40.24 | Amarande | where's that from? |
| 04:40.33 | Amarande | I'm assuming it's an alliance thing since I've never ever heard it in Org |
| 04:40.53 | Torhal | It's from Dalaran |
| 04:41.00 | Wobin | ^ |
| 04:41.13 | Wobin | I feel slightly guilty not taking advantage of the fire festival for levelling |
| 04:41.18 | Wobin | but I can't be bothered =( |
| 04:41.51 | Amarande | also on the vuvuzela line of thought ... http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/06/23/funny-pictures-call-911/ |
| 04:42.41 | Zyn- | there's even a vuvuzela button on youtube... |
| 04:44.46 | Jerub | also from /train |
| 04:47.07 | Amarande | http://graphjam.com/2010/06/22/funny-graphs-far-fetched-apocolypse-theories/ |
| 04:55.49 | Amarande | http://graphjam.com/2010/06/14/funny-graphs-surface-earth/ |
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| 05:00.15 | Kraps | it worked! |
| 05:10.24 | Kraps | Dagmar: |
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| 05:37.04 | Fisker | YOU WILL BE DESTROYEEEED |
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| 05:40.49 | |Jelly| | Staph: 2 ; Jelly: 0 |
| 05:41.26 | Cairenn | |Jelly|: not good - heavier dose of antibiotics? |
| 05:41.49 | |Jelly| | Well, now I'm on the antibiotic that's prescribed for the antibiotic resistant form of staph. |
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| 05:42.03 | Cairenn | that's what I mean |
| 05:42.13 | |Jelly| | Then, yes. :P |
| 05:42.40 | Fisker | i'm not a sick person anymore |Jelly| |
| 05:42.47 | |Jelly| | Don't lie to me |
| 05:42.47 | Cairenn | fingers very firmly crossed for you |Jelly| |
| 05:43.09 | Fisker | :( |
| 05:43.18 | |Jelly| | <3 |
| 05:43.36 | Fisker | then i'll just bitch about n00bs in ahune |
| 05:43.42 | Fisker | kept being dazed |
| 05:43.46 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 05:43.48 | Fisker | found out the hunter still had pack on |
| 05:44.04 | |Jelly| | I'm somewhat scared to attempt that due to people who've never seen it. |
| 05:45.53 | Fisker | haha |
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| 05:45.58 | Fisker | the iphone retina display already sucks |
| 05:46.06 | Fisker | maybe it's because apple doesn't care about their design |
| 05:46.13 | Fisker | highfives jnwhiteh |
| 05:48.10 | Jerub | oh, milestone for me |
| 05:48.14 | Jerub | i hit 101k health in icc |
| 05:48.29 | |Jelly| | druid? |
| 05:48.29 | Cide | that's over 90000 |
| 05:48.30 | Jerub | 25% buff + savage instincts + glyph |
| 05:48.47 | Jerub | i whacked my cd when i was out of range of a healer |
| 05:50.00 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/tf2_communication_problem.jpg |
| 05:51.22 | |Jelly| | heh |
| 05:51.27 | Fisker | problem officer? |
| 05:51.51 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: at least link to the /actual/ strip: http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=257 |
| 05:53.08 | Fisker | OMG COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT |
| 05:53.10 | Fisker | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEES |
| 05:55.50 | mikma | nighthawkthesane: na |
| 05:56.06 | mikma | i link it from where i see it, it's easier. people can read where it's from |
| 05:56.34 | NightHawkTheSane | mikma: yeah, i just dislike relinking shit when it so obviously has an easily available /original/ source. |
| 05:56.39 | NightHawkTheSane | credit where it's due, and all. |
| 05:56.52 | mikma | after all, i really don't give a rats ass if you dislike it or not |
| 05:57.04 | Fisker | credit where it's due is the bottom of the image NightHawkTheSane |
| 05:57.14 | Fisker | is at* |
| 05:57.26 | mikma | i'm not going to start digging up the original sites just to find the same picture, even if it might be on the first page |
| 05:57.33 | NightHawkTheSane | Fisker: because douchebags steal the image and host it somewhere else :P |
| 05:58.08 | Fisker | so people who actually take credit for it is not douchebags if they steal the bandwitdh from the original host? |
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| 05:59.02 | mikma | the source of the image is still there at the bottom of the picture anyway |
| 05:59.19 | NightHawkTheSane | its there, and available, it's not stealing the bandwidth any more than me linking to the site was. |
| 05:59.44 | Fisker | I'll tell you that real copyright fags would disagree with you |
| 05:59.59 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, but i dont care about you. |
| 06:00.05 | Fisker | they'd rather see the image rehosted, retaining credit, than seeing the image directly linked from their host |
| 06:00.16 | mikma | what makes you thing we care about your burst, either |
| 06:00.24 | Fisker | you talked about credit where credit is due |
| 06:00.32 | NightHawkTheSane | except sites like kuvaton basically just relink shit |
| 06:00.33 | Fisker | there's full credit, at no expense to the author |
| 06:00.37 | Fisker | absolutely nothing to complain about |
| 06:00.39 | Fisker | nothing. |
| 06:01.03 | mikma | fisker: but, he's "TheSane" |
| 06:08.06 | mikma | uh, Monkey Island 2 Pre-Purchase |
| 06:09.03 | mikma | both special editions now at 9.99e combined |
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| 06:44.34 | zenzio | Cairenn: http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/06/23/funny-pictures-seduction-kitteh/ |
| 06:44.55 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 06:53.07 | Dagmar | So who *else* is glad there's no such thing as "Free Range Lions" |
| 06:53.24 | Cairenn | lol |
| 06:53.53 | Dagmar | Seriously when I heard the news about that restaurant, a big red dotted line appeared in my mind around the entire state of Illinois |
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| 06:54.20 | Dagmar | Stuff gets out of pens. I know, I live in Tennessee and I've hit a *peacock* with my car (didn't hurt it) |
| 06:54.40 | Dagmar | I wouldn't be driving through Illinois at anything less than full speed the whole way if they had "Free Range Lions" |
| 07:06.58 | zenzio | so |
| 07:07.17 | zenzio | bunch of young people have been out celebrating in Spain, and arrive with a crowded train at a station |
| 07:07.49 | zenzio | instead of waiting for their turn to exit in the normal manner, some decide to exit on the wrong side of the train, and 12 or more get killed as they get hit by a high-speed train |
| 07:08.00 | zenzio | and they go on to say "we got no indication it was coming!" |
| 07:09.57 | Adys | http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=439 |
| 07:10.32 | Dagmar | zenzio: Apparently none of them had any tracking skill at all. |
| 07:10.46 | zenzio | :) |
| 07:10.55 | zenzio | Adys: the layout on that site makes me dizzy |
| 07:10.58 | Dagmar | I always thought the ability to track trains was more or less innate among humans. |
| 07:11.09 | Dagmar | You look down, you see... tracks! |
| 07:11.15 | Dagmar | "Aha! I think a train's been here!" |
| 07:14.30 | Fisker | hey zenzio |
| 07:14.36 | Fisker | i hate you |
| 07:16.28 | Fisker | give windows 7 sp1 |
| 07:18.13 | Fisker | also epic facepalm @ spain |
| 07:18.28 | Fisker | how did they exit in the wrong side anyway? |
| 07:20.18 | Fisker | slaps zenzio around a bit with a large trout |
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| 07:33.40 | mikma | are there any other stat-addons than RatingBuster? |
| 07:35.24 | mikma | i want to see what agility does as ap etc |
| 07:36.19 | ZorbaGama | mikma, agility is one AP and half a crit rating of crit. :) |
| 07:37.31 | Fisker | slaps ZorbaGama around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:37.42 | Fisker | what if i'm a hunter ZorbaGama ? |
| 07:37.43 | Fisker | you jerk |
| 07:37.46 | mikma | zorbagama: but are there any idealistic addons for statistic like that, other than RatingBuster |
| 07:38.24 | ZorbaGama | fisker, then I'm pretty sure it's 1 AP and half a crit rating of crit. |
| 07:38.31 | ZorbaGama | mikma, not that I know of |
| 07:38.39 | ZorbaGama | what's wrong with ratingbuster, though? |
| 07:38.53 | mikma | full of horror and ace3 |
| 07:39.03 | ZorbaGama | oh hey looks like it's less than one crit rating worth of crit for hunters |
| 07:39.05 | Fisker | it's not ZorbaGama |
| 07:39.10 | ZorbaGama | sucks to be them |
| 07:39.10 | Fisker | or wait |
| 07:39.14 | Fisker | melee it is i think |
| 07:39.17 | Fisker | but not ranged |
| 07:39.34 | ZorbaGama | hmm, ww says "chance to score a critical hit with a weapon" |
| 07:39.40 | ZorbaGama | dunno if ranged counts for that |
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| 07:42.37 | mikma | now, i have my trust that tekkub has created something i need |
| 07:42.52 | mikma | it's already proven to be true |
| 07:43.04 | Jerub | ZorbaGama: druids have all sorts of multipliers iwth lots of decimal places due to talents and kitty/bear form |
| 07:43.07 | Thrae | tekkub created something new? I thought he just updates his TOCs. |
| 07:43.13 | ZorbaGama | jerub, yeah, that's true |
| 07:43.26 | Jerub | the funnest one is strength |
| 07:43.48 | Jerub | which everyone knows kitties should value less than agility, unless they've got heaps of crit, or something |
| 07:43.53 | Jerub | 1 str = 2.1 ap i think. |
| 07:44.10 | Jerub | 1 agi = 1.6 ap + 0.2% crit or something weird |
| 07:44.42 | Fisker | tekkub is a he? |
| 07:44.56 | Fisker | 1 str = 2 ap |
| 07:45.05 | Thrae | Jerub: The Crit stuff is just the normal multipliers everyone has. No talents like the 2.1 AP and 1.1 AP from Strength and Agility, respectively. |
| 07:46.37 | Jerub | here it is. |
| 07:47.02 | Jerub | 1 str = 2.3 ap, 1 agi = 1.2 ap, 0.013 % crit |
| 07:47.47 | Maldivia | druids have +10% ap from hotw, +6% stats from sotf, +2% stats from imp motw |
| 07:47.47 | Thrae | I think that's raid buffed or includes Survival of the Fittest + Improved Mark of the Wild? |
| 07:48.21 | zenzio | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2010/june/ss1037.jpg - it might be perspective, but doesn't that lower jaw look much too big compared to the upper jaw/rest of the head? |
| 07:49.03 | Fisker | that concept art is f'd in the a |
| 07:49.07 | Fisker | bad scaling |
| 07:49.09 | Fisker | very bad |
| 07:49.11 | Fisker | terribad |
| 07:49.22 | Fisker | also how did those spanish guys get out on the wrong side? |
| 07:49.56 | Thrae | A better way of showing it is that (for Cat Form only) AP Bonus = (Strength * 2.08 + Agility * 1.08) * 1.1 |
| 07:50.22 | haste | Fisker: ! |
| 07:50.26 | haste | Fisker: is the PTR still up? |
| 07:50.30 | Fisker | no |
| 07:50.39 | haste | I don't believe you! |
| 07:55.26 | Fisker | then don't |
| 07:55.32 | Fisker | why does zenzio hate me? |
| 07:55.48 | Fisker | and i hate you for not sending my package when they should have |
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| 08:00.31 | mikma | heh, blue is suggesting this: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=6933 |
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| 08:02.23 | Fisker | LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL |
| 08:02.32 | Fisker | The news that Apple would be collecting the "precise" "real-time geographic location" of its users' iPhones, iPads and computers was announced this week via the rollout of the company's new privacy policy. |
| 08:02.32 | Fisker | Customers have the "option" to opt in, but Apple is reportedly punishing those who decline to accept the checkbox sort of privacy agreement. According to the LA Times, "Until they agree, they cannot download anything through the [iTunes] store. |
| 08:02.32 | harl | hello |
| 08:02.37 | Fisker | i lold harl |
| 08:02.52 | Fisker | but atleast Apple cares about their customers enough to not design a shitty phone |
| 08:02.58 | Fisker | oh wait a minute |
| 08:03.17 | mikma | ... ho ho ho |
| 08:03.50 | Fisker | Can't even remember who pullled that turd out of their ass but it was funny |
| 08:04.16 | mikma | fisker: link that news please? |
| 08:04.55 | Fisker | http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=18805 |
| 08:05.23 | Fisker | this is the best day of my life |
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| 08:14.59 | Arrowmaster | either apple will change that or i will laugh when the first person wins for suing apple for a full refund of the original purchase price of their iphone and anything they have downloaded from itunes |
| 08:15.16 | Fisker | LOL |
| 08:15.26 | Fisker | can you imagine that in a class-action lawsuit? |
| 08:15.34 | Arrowmaster | no that would be bad |
| 08:15.36 | Fisker | except the lawyer would probably take 90% |
| 08:15.37 | Fisker | :( |
| 08:15.38 | Arrowmaster | class actions are bad |
| 08:15.48 | Fisker | i should buy one and sue |
| 08:15.54 | Arrowmaster | they seriously do take like 66% |
| 08:16.05 | Fisker | yeah |
| 08:16.12 | Fisker | i should be a lawyer |
| 08:16.36 | Fisker | do trolls make good lawyers? |
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| 08:17.04 | Fisker | btw foxlit |
| 08:17.09 | Fisker | where's your god now? |
| 08:17.12 | Fisker | http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=18805 |
| 08:20.04 | Jamash | apple is the new microsoft |
| 08:26.03 | tekkub | apple is batshit insane these days |
| 08:26.09 | tekkub | speaking of batshit insane |
| 08:26.09 | tekkub | http://kotaku.com/5571473/korea-actually-gets-a-starcraft-ii-jumbo-jet |
| 08:26.13 | tekkub | seriously? |
| 08:28.26 | Corrodias | does it transport zerg? |
| 08:28.53 | Corrodias | i like to carry an ultralisk in my carryong |
| 08:28.55 | Corrodias | *carryon |
| 08:30.05 | Dagmar | I *think* the TSA might have something to say about that. |
| 08:30.22 | tekkub | korea |
| 08:30.37 | tekkub | TSA has no powers over them! |
| 08:30.44 | tekkub | unless they try to fly over here |
| 08:33.37 | tekkub | "also revealed a sponsorship deal with fast food chain Lotteria..." |
| 08:33.53 | tekkub | uhm, I think I would be highly worried about eating at a place named Lotteria |
| 08:34.33 | Maldivia | tekkub: better Lotteria than Litteria |
| 08:34.53 | Fisker | What about Pitteria? |
| 08:34.57 | Fisker | Korean for Pizzaria |
| 08:35.21 | tekkub | is that like Brad Pitt or armpit |
| 08:35.31 | tekkub | the former, hells no... the latter.. maybe... |
| 08:41.56 | Corrodias | what fools, using a 't' for a 't' sound |
| 08:42.10 | Corrodias | surely they should use 'z' like the civilized folk |
| 08:43.16 | zenzio | tell me about it |
| 08:43.32 | zenzio | pity I'm not on my main nick right now |
| 08:43.49 | Corrodias | ah, tentio, glad you could join us |
| 08:44.12 | olafski | tentelett :( |
| 08:44.16 | zenzio | :) |
| 08:44.42 | zenzio | I was actually only referring to the Z and civilised people, since most people wouldn't consider me civilised |
| 08:46.21 | Fisker | btw zenzelezz |
| 08:46.23 | Fisker | you lied |
| 08:50.52 | Fisker | zenzio |
| 08:50.55 | Fisker | stop lying to me |
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| 09:35.03 | mikma | meh, earthquake in gaynada |
| 09:37.20 | awweaver | So this one time, at Crossroads |
| 09:38.11 | mikma | bless you |
| 09:39.33 | awweaver | It was under Attack, o wait... |
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| 10:10.12 | Wobin | grr |
| 10:10.18 | Wobin | any fixes for the blackout screens? |
| 10:10.32 | zenzio | blackout screens? |
| 10:12.05 | Wobin | randomly in Dal, for example or any high traffic area |
| 10:12.08 | Wobin | the screen blacks out |
| 10:12.16 | Wobin | I can get occasional angles to show |
| 10:12.22 | Wobin | but never reliably |
| 10:12.30 | zenzio | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=13817043243&sid=1 - I like the second response (Jinxta's) |
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| 10:16.30 | Arrowmaster | an 800x600 wallpaper? wrothless |
| 10:17.30 | olafski | oO |
| 10:17.42 | olafski | someone didn't see the links at the bottom |
| 10:19.40 | Arrowmaster | i see them now |
| 10:19.59 | Arrowmaster | and that really is bad, the faces are all copies of each other |
| 10:20.59 | olafski | if it weren't for the skin and hair colors I wouldn't have been able to tell them apart |
| 10:21.55 | foxlit | What would be your preferred method of differentiating them, then? :) |
| 10:22.13 | olafski | dunno.. orc females are generally a bit more muscular |
| 10:22.41 | zenzio | I am sad to see you focusing on the wallpaper and not on the joke reply |
| 10:22.51 | olafski | I didn't find it very funny zenzio :( |
| 10:22.57 | zenzio | then you fail! |
| 10:22.58 | olafski | he shouldn't have added the eye-level part |
| 10:23.02 | zenzio | silly gnomes and dwarves |
| 10:23.09 | olafski | explaining the joke voids the funny-ness |
| 10:23.28 | zenzio | olafski: well, I half-way agree on that point, but on the WoW forums you need to be elaborate |
| 10:23.40 | olafski | that doesn't make it more funny ;) |
| 10:24.00 | olafski | good reason why I never go to the forums unless someone posts a link in here though |
| 10:24.06 | zenzio | you'll notice I didn't say I laughed, just that I liked the response |
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| 10:47.49 | zenzio | "a lot of the alliance who joined horde when the belfs arrived will go back to be LEET IMBAZ WAREZWOLVES! RAWRRR! :) " - hm... warezwolf sounds cooler than pirate |
| 10:48.21 | olafski | :D |
| 10:48.39 | olafski | blood elves.. if you really must play a paladin on horde it's excusable but otherwise bleh |
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| 11:04.17 | Corrodias | blood elf males are fabulous. get out of here. |
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| 11:19.10 | Adys | http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=531 |
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| 12:01.48 | foxlit | wtb actual masking for textures |
| 12:04.36 | Xinhuan | make your own textures pre-masked :P |
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| 12:04.50 | foxlit | Xinhuan: I'd have to make my own textures :/ |
| 12:05.04 | Xinhuan | not much can be done about it |
| 12:05.05 | Xinhuan | :/ |
| 12:05.06 | foxlit | Which kind of limits the utility of that idea. |
| 12:05.07 | Kalroth | masks foxlit |
| 12:05.18 | foxlit | They could add texture:SetMask("texturePath") |
| 12:05.35 | foxlit | Just like Minimap:SetMaskTexture("path") already exists |
| 12:08.42 | foxlit | I could also play with settexcoords but that is such a hack |
| 12:08.57 | Kalroth | hacks are good! |
| 12:12.00 | Elkano | there are so many hacks referenced in the UI code... ^^ |
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| 12:17.52 | industrial | lua> math.pi() % 1337 |
| 12:17.52 | lua_bot | industrial: luabot:1: attempt to call field 'pi' (a number value) |
| 12:17.57 | industrial | lua> math.pi % 1337 |
| 12:17.57 | lua_bot | industrial: 3.1415926535898 |
| 12:18.07 | industrial | lua> (math.pi % 1337) |
| 12:18.08 | lua_bot | industrial: 3.1415926535898 |
| 12:18.12 | industrial | ur doin it wrong! |
| 12:19.42 | Kalroth | lua> 1337 % 1337 |
| 12:19.42 | lua_bot | Kalroth: 0 |
| 12:19.47 | Kalroth | lua> 1337 % 1336 |
| 12:19.47 | lua_bot | Kalroth: 1 |
| 12:19.55 | industrial | seriously though |
| 12:20.00 | industrial | http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=pi+%25+1337 |
| 12:20.19 | Kalroth | :D |
| 12:20.23 | industrial | ;) |
| 12:20.26 | industrial | that is all. |
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| 12:22.03 | Kalroth | lua> math.floor((math.pi * 1337)/100) |
| 12:22.03 | lua_bot | Kalroth: 42 |
| 12:22.08 | Kalroth | flexes |
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| 12:34.31 | zenzio | tickles Lopeppeppy |
| 12:35.07 | Lopeppeppy | Morning to you. |
| 12:35.20 | |Jelly| | huggles peppy. |
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| 13:00.40 | Wobin | http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/062010/headlines_that_write_themselves.jpg |
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| 13:01.02 | iSylvir | waves. |
| 13:01.07 | iSylvir | I haz question. |
| 13:01.17 | zenzio | shaer |
| 13:01.29 | iSylvir | What would be the function to reload the user interface... |
| 13:01.38 | iSylvir | I'm editing an LUA... |
| 13:01.43 | Maldivia | ReloadUI() |
| 13:01.46 | iSylvir | Lol |
| 13:01.49 | iSylvir | thanks bud. |
| 13:02.00 | mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:02.06 | iSylvir | .. |
| 13:02.08 | Maldivia | or /rl -- /reload -- /console reloadui |
| 13:02.08 | iSylvir | . |
| 13:02.27 | Kaso | are rl and reload default ui commands? |
| 13:02.31 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 13:02.35 | iSylvir | rl isnt |
| 13:02.37 | iSylvir | neither is reload |
| 13:02.56 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:02.56 | mikma | they are |
| 13:02.58 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:03.00 | iSylvir | I know this because if I uninstall tukui I can't /rl. |
| 13:03.01 | iSylvir | ah |
| 13:03.02 | jnwhiteh | most certainly is |
| 13:03.19 | Kaso | also, its Lua ;p |
| 13:03.34 | Kaso | And bare in mind you need user input to do ReloadUI() |
| 13:03.36 | iSylvir | eww, never double click an XML |
| 13:03.42 | iSylvir | I know |
| 13:04.11 | jnwhiteh | you've used 'an LUA' and 'an XML' and neither of those quite work. Why would you ever double-click on an Extensible Markup Language. How would you do that in the first place? =) |
| 13:04.31 | mikma | CLICKETY CLICK, jnwhiteh |
| 13:04.31 | zenzio | :-p |
| 13:04.46 | Wobin | well |
| 13:04.49 | Wobin | 'an XML' is valid |
| 13:04.54 | jnwhiteh | it is |
| 13:04.56 | iSylvir | jn. |
| 13:04.58 | jnwhiteh | but not semantically correct |
| 13:04.58 | Wobin | unless you pronounce it 'zaml' |
| 13:04.58 | iSylvir | I clicked the file. |
| 13:05.01 | Jamash | not really |
| 13:05.09 | Jamash | it's a dot XML file |
| 13:05.13 | iSylvir | Sue me. |
| 13:05.22 | iSylvir | It opened the XML file with IE |
| 13:05.22 | Jamash | sues iSylvir |
| 13:05.25 | zenzio | Jamash: it can be an XML-formatted file without having .xml |
| 13:05.25 | Wobin | Jamash, is it? |
| 13:05.26 | jnwhiteh | what country, I'll see if the laws are valid. |
| 13:05.26 | iSylvir | that's why I said that. |
| 13:05.35 | iSylvir | and since I don't use IE, it messed everything up |
| 13:05.41 | mikma | OH NOES |
| 13:05.53 | mikma | i'd pop a cap in my head if i did that mistake |
| 13:06.04 | iSylvir | i know, rite? |
| 13:06.10 | mikma | left |
| 13:07.13 | Maldivia | then associate .xml files with another application, problem solved |
| 13:07.23 | iSylvir | I already did. |
| 13:07.26 | iSylvir | Notepad++ |
| 13:07.29 | iSylvir | I just forgot that I hadn't yet. |
| 13:07.51 | zenzio | http://averagecats.com/submissions/cat_uploads/a4bba8c68bdc45.jpg |
| 13:07.59 | zenzio | I'm so glad AverageCats helps me understand things |
| 13:08.10 | iSylvir | nods. |
| 13:08.23 | Jamash | that's nonsense, kittens are eternal |
| 13:08.51 | mikma | you must be trying to code in private servers |
| 13:09.06 | iSylvir | Wut? |
| 13:09.29 | Jamash | http://www.wowwiki.com/Cat_Carrier_%28White_Kitten%29 <- permanent kitten |
| 13:09.30 | iSylvir | I just made my first successful, working addon. D: |
| 13:09.49 | iSylvir | Jamash: That cat, in the picture, looks so...sickly. |
| 13:11.52 | Jamash | I demand microsoft kinect support in wow |
| 13:12.07 | iSylvir | damn. My addon failed. |
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| 13:17.25 | iSylvir | http://tinyurl.com/GMReport1 |
| 13:17.33 | iSylvir | facepalms. |
| 13:17.57 | iSylvir | Not being able to battleground. Broken as intended, by Game Masters own mouth. |
| 13:19.13 | mikma | it's like being the last kid that gets picked in the ball-game |
| 13:19.13 | Alram | Your friendly neighbourhood Troll, |
| 13:19.15 | mikma | whoopdidoo |
| 13:19.17 | Alram | There's your answer iSylvir |
| 13:19.22 | iSylvir | x3 |
| 13:19.32 | iSylvir | Mikma, I've been in one queue for nearly 3 hours. |
| 13:19.39 | iSylvir | the other one for an hour and a half |
| 13:20.35 | mikma | that's about the same i've witnessed with 70-79 |
| 13:20.43 | iSylvir | twitches. |
| 13:21.21 | iSylvir | you're telling me out of the 20 or so realms on my battleground, 9 other alliance players haven't queued up for any BG's? |
| 13:21.34 | Jamash | yup |
| 13:21.35 | iSylvir | .-. |
| 13:21.41 | iSylvir | twitches once again. |
| 13:22.07 | mikma | http://wowinterface.com/downloads/info16581-Alt-TabToggle.html roflcopter, really |
| 13:22.21 | mikma | how long will it take until this gets "fixed" :O |
| 13:23.26 | iSylvir | lol. |
| 13:24.21 | zenzio | gxRestart doesn't require a hardware event? |
| 13:25.53 | Wobin | iSylvir, maybe 10 other horde also haven't queued up for a BG =P |
| 13:26.45 | zenzio | given people's attitude to leveling, I suspect they're using the LFD tool instead to get to 80 fast rather than do BGs along the way - but I don't PvP, so this is speculation |
| 13:27.27 | Wobin | I dunno |
| 13:27.33 | Wobin | a few in my guild are levelling via pvp |
| 13:27.49 | Wobin | you can get pretty good xp in bgs |
| 13:30.40 | mikma | you know what, you can also get good xp from quests! thadaaaaaa! |
| 13:31.09 | Wobin | lies |
| 13:31.17 | Wobin | you get pretty terrible xp for quests |
| 13:31.23 | Wobin | in comparison to lfd and bgs |
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| 13:31.38 | Wobin | you also get worse gear |
| 13:32.38 | mikma | i had 7days+ on my rogue when i dinged to 80 :P been playing around with it quite a while too |
| 13:34.44 | Wobin | Casting Levitate while standing on top of a chest after it disappears will cause the player to disconnect. |
| 13:34.46 | Wobin | ... awesome |
| 13:37.32 | Kraps | reticulates some splines |
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| 13:54.54 | eidolarr | Wobin: don't you only get good BG EXP on weekends? |
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| 14:02.12 | Wobin | you get more |
| 14:02.14 | Wobin | I think |
| 14:02.22 | Wobin | but they seem to be chugging along fine normally |
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| 14:02.41 | eidolarr | you get a LOT more |
| 14:02.51 | eidolarr | it's like 1/3 to 1/2 a level on weekends, like 2 bubbles regularly |
| 14:03.00 | Wobin | yes, but still decent xp otherwise |
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| 14:03.14 | eidolarr | i havent leveled in so long |
| 14:03.20 | eidolarr | i guess it depends on which faction you're on |
| 14:03.29 | eidolarr | if you're on the losing faction for the bracket it's not so obvious haha |
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| 14:09.20 | Kraps | reticulates some more splines |
| 14:17.04 | cog|away | jnwhiteh: now that i've had a chance to look at it more closely, i think it's chinese not japanese. Bigger market imo ;) |
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| 14:18.36 | jnwhiteh | cool =) |
| 14:19.31 | DJJeff | is broker2fubar getting an update as well? |
| 14:19.43 | DJJeff | cause my broker addons are not showing |
| 14:19.48 | Jamash | FUEGO! |
| 14:19.54 | DJJeff | but fubar is working now thanks |
| 14:22.18 | mikma | why not get a proper broker displayer instead |
| 14:22.27 | mikma | since, you know, ckk is a dick |
| 14:22.37 | Wobin | cog|away, what's that? |
| 14:24.36 | mikma | some sort of kinky porn |
| 14:24.40 | cog|away | http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=4165687&l=ee35e7ab0d&id=563064469 |
| 14:25.32 | Wobin | yeah, that's chinese |
| 14:26.07 | Wobin | Japanese would tend to have katakana/hirigana intermixed |
| 14:26.36 | cog|away | in fairness to myself... 15:29 < cog|work> jnwhiteh: i just got 2 copies of the first edition in japanese for no apparent reason... 15:30 < cog|work> (or so mrs. cog just texted me from home) |
| 14:26.48 | mikma | lol scarlet letter lol lol |
| 14:27.25 | cog|away | Wobin: yep. that's what made me realize it wasn't japanese. Then i noticed the www.tup.com.cn url in the front matter :> |
| 14:27.49 | mikma | cog|away: they want you to learn bukk... i mean, chinese |
| 14:27.50 | Jamash | also _there is no japanese version of wow_ |
| 14:28.13 | Wobin | Sure there is. All the characters just have bigger eyes and longer hair |
| 14:28.24 | cog|away | they all know english anyway |
| 14:28.27 | cog|away | <.< |
| 14:28.39 | cog|away | s/l/r/ |
| 14:28.52 | cog|away | |aways |
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| 14:29.17 | mikma | cog|away: they arr know engrish anyway |
| 14:29.25 | cog|away | arr! |
| 14:30.09 | Jamash | yeahbut asian realms are in korean or chinese |
| 14:31.35 | Jamash | speaking of chinese, is the chinese version of wow still on hiatus? |
| 14:32.23 | Wobin | maybe in china, not in taiwan |
| 14:32.30 | Wobin | that I know of at least |
| 14:32.30 | Jamash | yeah, that's what I meant |
| 14:43.17 | Lopeppeppy | wants help desk ticketing software for Christmas. |
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| 14:48.24 | jnwhiteh | If I have a const char *p, and I do *p++, that's just moving to the next character int he sequence, right? |
| 14:51.54 | Kaso | yes |
| 14:52.10 | jnwhiteh | thanks, fucking pointer arithmetic. |
| 14:53.15 | Kaso | strcpy is basically while(*dest++ = *src++); which is fun |
| 14:53.22 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 14:57.20 | Jamash | argh, c strings |
| 14:57.25 | Wobin | hehe pointers |
| 14:57.34 | Wobin | the bane of everyone learning programming |
| 14:57.38 | Jamash | yep |
| 14:57.43 | jnwhiteh | I'm normally fine with them |
| 14:57.48 | Wobin | *&p++ |
| 14:57.54 | jnwhiteh | but there's no pointer arithmetic in the language I'm porting this to |
| 14:57.55 | Jamash | fuck you |
| 14:58.08 | Fisker | hey Wobin |
| 14:58.13 | Fisker | look what i found on my new mobo |
| 14:58.24 | Fisker | http://imgur.com/qIHik.jpg |
| 14:58.25 | Wobin | Is it one million in gold bullion? |
| 14:58.26 | Fisker | bent pins! |
| 14:58.40 | Jamash | I've had that |
| 14:58.48 | Jamash | man, that's a lot of pins |
| 14:58.51 | Fisker | 1366 |
| 14:59.07 | Wobin | ugh |
| 14:59.28 | Wobin | reminds me when I leant my camera to my sister |
| 14:59.36 | Wobin | and she tried to shove the memory card in backwards |
| 14:59.50 | Wobin | "I'm sure if I SHOVE HARDER, it'll go in" |
| 15:00.00 | Wobin | >< |
| 15:00.20 | Wobin | s/leant/loaned/ |
| 15:00.55 | Wobin | and that's a sign for me to go to bed |
| 15:00.56 | Wobin | night all |
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| 15:04.10 | laeg | can i safely delete World of Warcraft.temp? i play using wine on ubuntu, and haven't logged into the game with the current install yet |
| 15:05.09 | Kaso | World of Warcraft.temp? what is this |
| 15:05.48 | laeg | a folder in program files |
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| 15:06.49 | Fisker | it's the folder used during installation |
| 15:06.51 | Fisker | so no |
| 15:08.21 | Jamash | it's where the new versions of patched files are stored |
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| 15:12.37 | Jamash | fffuuuuuuuuuuuuu |
| 15:13.05 | Jamash | I just got cold weather flying on my warlock via the tome, and went to dalaran, and forgot to set my hearthstone there |
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| 15:16.34 | laeg | ty |
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| 15:20.49 | cog|away | 07:48 <@jnwhiteh> If I have a const char *p, and I do *p++, that's just moving to the next character int he sequence, right? |
| 15:21.26 | cog|away | er nm |
| 15:21.33 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 15:21.49 | jnwhiteh | porting Lua pattern matching to a language with no pointer arithmetic is painful. |
| 15:21.50 | cog|away | *p++ will move the pointer to the next character but return the character that was there before |
| 15:22.04 | cog|away | s/was there/it was pointing to/ |
| 15:22.16 | jnwhiteh | aye |
| 15:22.21 | Fisker | jnwhiteh |
| 15:22.29 | Fisker | why did they have to use LEDs |
| 15:22.33 | Fisker | rages |
| 15:22.34 | jnwhiteh | dunno |
| 15:22.39 | Fisker | btw |
| 15:22.42 | cog|away | vuvuzelas Fisker around a bit with a large vuvuzela. |
| 15:22.50 | Fisker | http://imgur.com/qIHik.jpg <-spot the error |
| 15:23.30 | kd3 | ooh |
| 15:23.31 | kd3 | cringes |
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| 15:23.32 | cog|work | Fisker: looks like some bent pins near the top center? |
| 15:23.57 | cog|work | time to break out the magnifying glass and tweezers |
| 15:26.11 | Kaso | jnwhiteh: what are you porting into? |
| 15:26.16 | jnwhiteh | Go. |
| 15:26.59 | jnwhiteh | because it doesn't have full pcre support, and there's no manner of non-greedy matching |
| 15:27.12 | jnwhiteh | so I want to stab myself in the face when I'm doing any text parsing. |
| 15:27.53 | jnwhiteh | only another 400 lines to go =/ |
| 15:28.09 | mikma | sounds like a cool addon |
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| 15:30.58 | mikma | 18:22 ** cog|away vuvuzelas Fisker around a bit with a large vuvuzela. |
| 15:31.00 | mikma | uu burn! |
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| 15:36.30 | Jamash | http://www.xkcd.com/757/ |
| 15:37.54 | Kraps | gets that one |
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| 15:39.19 | cog|work | station |
| 15:39.20 | Lunessa | station |
| 15:39.40 | jnwhiteh | station |
| 15:39.45 | jnwhiteh | clearly. |
| 15:40.03 | Xinhuan | zzzz |
| 15:40.06 | Xinhuan | 8 min queue for ahune |
| 15:40.08 | Lopeppeppy | blessedly |
| 15:40.11 | Xinhuan | whats wrong with this game |
| 15:40.18 | Xinhuan | you don't even need a tank for that |
| 15:42.44 | Kraps | Xinhuan: as groups i've been in show, you do |
| 15:43.02 | Xinhuan | i could prob tank it as a rogue |
| 15:43.09 | Xinhuan | evasion the first golem |
| 15:43.13 | Xinhuan | then just dps the remainder |
| 15:43.17 | Xinhuan | adds |
| 15:44.40 | Kraps | you need a group then |
| 15:44.46 | Kraps | good group* |
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| 15:54.05 | Lunessa | I've tanked that fight as a shaman. It wasn't fun, but it can be done. |
| 15:55.46 | Kaso | if your healer is weak at all doing it without a tank could be painful, that rock elemental can do a fair amount of damage |
| 15:55.59 | Kaso | but yeah, what do i care, im a tank |
| 15:56.03 | Kaso | instant cues, yay |
| 15:56.08 | Kaso | queues even |
| 15:56.16 | Kaso | wrong kind of queue |
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| 15:58.44 | Fisker | naw cog|work |
| 16:00.50 | cog|work | gnaw Fisker |
| 16:08.04 | Kraps | bahahaha http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/13817253269/blizzard-bring-back-40-man-raiding-srsly/ |
| 16:08.18 | Lunessa | http://www.tuaw.com/2010/06/23/iphone-4-cell-reception-suffers-when-picked-up/ |
| 16:10.07 | cog|work | laughs in the general direction of iPhone fanbois |
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| 16:12.36 | Lunessa | Kraps: lulz /banhammer |
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| 16:17.12 | Lunessa | cog|work: I wondered, when I saw it the first time if the metal band was the antenna. Now I know. |
| 16:17.26 | DJJeff | WIM 3.3.5 (latest) can no longer link achievements using shift click |
| 16:17.33 | DJJeff | 3.3.4 I could |
| 16:18.15 | bryno | DJJeff: file a bug report please |
| 16:18.30 | DJJeff | ok |
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| 16:20.31 | cog|work | Lunessa: i remember them saying something about it, but it never occurred to me that it would cause problems |
| 16:22.11 | |Jelly| | cog|work: because I'm not a fanboi, iDon't have that problem either. :P |
| 16:22.55 | |Jelly| | However, they'd better fix it before my faux renewal is up otherwise, I'm going to be pissed. :P |
| 16:23.10 | NightHawkTheSane | cog|work: I wonder if it'd be fixed by having a case that simply wrapped the edge |
| 16:24.53 | Lunessa | they sell a rubber protector that apparently solves the issue |
| 16:25.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: that's what I was thinking of, but I expect any similar case would resolve it. |
| 16:25.37 | NightHawkTheSane | it's a little silly that you would have to do that, but *shrug* |
| 16:25.47 | Lunessa | *nod* |
| 16:25.56 | NightHawkTheSane | is still probably going to get one. |
| 16:31.16 | cog|work | yeah, i bet that's why they never noticed, 'cause their employees had the iphone 3 costumes |
| 16:37.58 | NightHawkTheSane | likely. |
| 16:38.30 | NightHawkTheSane | and the conditions when it wasn't cased weren't right (maybe dry/air conditioned offices, etc) |
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| 16:45.46 | foxlit | gr. |
| 16:46.00 | foxlit | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25578318641&sid=1 |
| 16:46.19 | foxlit | There's clearly some relatively common way to taint ticketing, and yet nobody can post a taintlog. |
| 16:46.23 | foxlit | Disgraceful. |
| 16:52.01 | foxlit | http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/Aarokh/Stuff/thebestwowuieverbq3.jpg |
| 16:52.09 | foxlit | kind of awesome |
| 16:52.12 | Lopeppeppy | Sparkles. |
| 16:53.24 | |Jelly| | These are the sort of things .. that can't be unseen. Jerk. |
| 16:53.25 | mikma | neato |
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| 16:56.29 | cog|work | |Jelly|: This too: http://fashionindie.com/wtf-unicorn-man-will-haunt-your-nightmares-steal-your-heals/ |
| 16:56.50 | kd3 | wtf |
| 16:56.57 | foxlit | I don't get the second part. |
| 16:56.58 | |Jelly| | That's just. Wow. |
| 17:02.17 | Lunessa | I think it's supposed to be "heels" |
| 17:02.43 | foxlit | Possibly with steel. |
| 17:02.56 | foxlit | But then it doesn't make sense either |
| 17:03.08 | foxlit | "Warning, solutions may have been lost" |
| 17:05.03 | foxlit | But I'm probably asking for something unreasonable: rephrase 2^k + k <= a in terms of k. |
| 17:06.21 | Lunessa | What is the square-root of -1? :P |
| 17:06.51 | foxlit | Shirik says j. |
| 17:06.58 | Cide | the imaginary unit in C, undefined in R^n |
| 17:07.13 | Cide | or R, I should say |
| 17:13.31 | Lunessa | You saw it here first: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25578318433&sid=1#4 - Iriel commits to even more work. |
| 17:14.53 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm pretty sure the internet can now say "Mission Accomplished": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMnpWYaCKB0 |
| 17:14.56 | NightHawkTheSane | (sfw) |
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| 17:23.23 | cog|work | "Cog I've got a question for you. Is there an addon for WoW that checks the AH for the price of items that you can create from tradeskills? For example if I have enchanting can it check all of the enchanting scrolls and see which are the most profitable?" |
| 17:23.46 | cog|work | anyone want to chime in? (/clueless) |
| 17:24.35 | Fisker | cog|work |
| 17:24.47 | Fisker | do you know if they fixed the 500 player limit in the guild ui on cataclysm yet? |
| 17:27.50 | Lunessa | cog|work: LilSparkysWorkshop |
| 17:28.15 | Lopeppeppy | Iriel is awesome. |
| 17:28.35 | Lunessa | cog|work: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7663-LilSparkysWorkshop.html |
| 17:28.52 | cog|work | ty :) |
| 17:29.07 | Fisker | hey cog|work |
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| 17:29.47 | cog|work | Lunessa: that q was posted on my FB wall if you want to take credit ;) |
| 17:30.02 | Lunessa | cog|work: Oh hell no. |
| 17:30.14 | cog|work | chuckles |
| 17:30.27 | Lunessa | I like my /relative/ anonymity. |
| 17:30.57 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Lunessa |
| 17:30.57 | purl | executes killall -TERM Lunessa |
| 17:31.20 | Lunessa | dies, recursively |
| 17:31.38 | |Jelly| | oh, cog's getting questions on facebook now? poor guy |
| 17:32.06 | Lopeppeppy | Same here, Lunessa. |
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| 17:32.47 | Fisker | cog|work answer meeeeeeeee |
| 17:33.07 | Lunessa | |Jelly|: After his posting avatar changed to the one with his Kirin Tor <Grounding Totem> tag I got about a dozen whispers each week looking for him. |
| 17:33.31 | |Jelly| | owned |
| 17:33.33 | |Jelly| | in the FACE |
| 17:33.41 | Seerah | pounces on |Jelly| |
| 17:33.49 | |Jelly| | oof! |
| 17:34.10 | |Jelly| | What'd I do, Seerah? :P |
| 17:34.20 | Seerah | I've not seen you for a while :p |
| 17:34.29 | Seerah | felt like it deserved a pouncing :) |
| 17:34.29 | |Jelly| | Yeah ... I broke my computer. |
| 17:34.35 | |Jelly| | And then I have staph ... again. |
| 17:34.38 | Seerah | YOU broke it? |
| 17:34.40 | Seerah | ugh :( |
| 17:35.05 | |Jelly| | Well, I wouldn't say 'I /broke/ it' but rather, I was trying to make it do something that it /really/ didn't want to do and well ... it ended up not working. |
| 17:35.22 | Seerah | hehe |
| 17:35.59 | |Jelly| | Apparently my motherboard doesn't want to run Raid0 so when I forced it to ... Windows worked great but Linux threw up on itself. |
| 17:36.14 | |Jelly| | So when I made the raid in Linux, Windows threw up. |
| 17:36.30 | alestane | has a root beer float. |
| 17:36.30 | |Jelly| | Then when I got a raid controller card, they both shit themselves because the card randomly would drop my raid. |
| 17:36.38 | |Jelly| | is jealous of alestane. |
| 17:36.54 | Seerah | is too |
| 17:37.51 | Fisker | is Seerah |
| 17:37.56 | Fisker | magnets. |
| 17:37.58 | |Jelly| | kinky |
| 17:38.25 | Seerah | somehow, I don't think you'd pass for me... |
| 17:39.08 | NightHawkTheSane | not unless you got a lobotomy, Seerah. |
| 17:39.41 | alestane | Fisker would also have to shrink. |
| 17:39.47 | alestane | Seerah's about 4'6"/ |
| 17:39.54 | Seerah | :( |
| 17:39.56 | Kaso | to SendChatMessage whisper someone from a different realm |
| 17:40.00 | Seerah | 4'9.5" |
| 17:40.20 | Kaso | do you litterally just cat both returns from UnitName with a - in between? |
| 17:40.30 | Fisker | are you legally a midget_ |
| 17:40.31 | Seerah | yeah |
| 17:40.34 | Seerah | no |
| 17:40.34 | |Jelly| | wow Seerah's a gnome irl?! |
| 17:40.37 | alestane | I wasn't exactly getting out the tape measures last time. |
| 17:40.40 | Seerah | hehe |
| 17:40.43 | Seerah | I forgive you |
| 17:41.07 | Fisker | oh |
| 17:41.09 | Fisker | illegal midget |
| 17:41.11 | alestane | But she's adorable, so it's okay. |
| 17:41.18 | Seerah | hugs alestane |
| 17:42.10 | Lopeppeppy | murders alestane for his ice cream. |
| 17:42.25 | alestane | All gone, Peppy, you're safe. |
| 17:42.27 | kd3 | mmm... cold-blooded murder |
| 17:42.29 | alestane | ...and so am I. |
| 17:43.03 | alestane | It has its upsides, Seerah: http://www.queenofwands.net/d/20030201.html |
| 17:44.01 | Jamash | short people |
| 17:44.10 | Jamash | got no reason to liiiiiiive |
| 17:44.29 | Seerah | My parents used to take advantage of it... I suppose that's why I hate it... People thinking you're a little kid when you want to be all grown up... |
| 17:45.06 | alestane | Makes sense. |
| 17:45.48 | Lunessa | plans to buy Seerah drinks. *nod* |
| 17:45.58 | Seerah | sweet |
| 17:46.06 | Seerah | remember what kind I like? ;) |
| 17:46.24 | Lunessa | *nod* |
| 17:46.28 | Seerah | :D |
| 17:46.49 | Lunessa | Mostly 'cause I'm hoping to get you drunk enough to hear you say FFS loudly, in public. |
| 17:46.59 | Seerah | lol |
| 17:47.11 | kd3 | whistles |
| 17:47.14 | Seerah | but I'm not an angry drunk |
| 17:47.34 | Seerah | I get all giggly |
| 17:47.38 | Lunessa | We'll just get you loaded and talk about your Pit of Sauron group... |
| 17:47.39 | mikma | liar |
| 17:48.23 | alestane | So instead we get the "murderous rampage: speech, Seerah? |
| 17:48.48 | Seerah | I apologize profusely for any inconvenience my murderous rampage may have caused. |
| 17:48.56 | alestane | <nonsequitor>Love to see someone get what's coming to them: http://www.misfile.com/?page=1543</> |
| 17:48.56 | kd3 | chuckles |
| 17:48.57 | Seerah | (that's my quest complete sound :D) |
| 17:49.39 | alestane | Used to have a guildie who could so the gnome female "Charge FORTH!" spot on. |
| 17:49.52 | Lopeppeppy | Indubitably |
| 17:50.05 | Lunessa | Seerah can do the murderous rampage quote frighteningly well. |
| 17:50.07 | alestane | Particularly frightening since the player was a 31-year-old male from South Carolina. |
| 17:50.15 | Seerah | and the choo-choo |
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| 17:50.21 | Seerah | hehe |
| 17:50.28 | Lunessa | She's a hoot on vent. :p |
| 17:50.31 | Seerah | ties Funkeh` to the channel |
| 17:50.46 | Funkeh` | kinky :o |
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| 17:52.44 | |Jelly| | needs more friends on vent. |
| 17:53.03 | Lopeppeppy | needs more vent on friends! |
| 17:53.52 | alestane | Can has Skype name if you want. I could even start turning it on occasionally. |
| 17:54.57 | DJJeff | ummmmmmmm |
| 17:54.59 | DJJeff | ummmmmmm |
| 17:55.06 | DJJeff | with all the chat box being redone |
| 17:55.11 | DJJeff | I cant shift click on shit |
| 17:55.12 | DJJeff | anymore |
| 17:55.45 | NightHawkTheSane | There is a bug report forum. |
| 17:56.06 | DJJeff | including DBM X_X |
| 17:56.33 | foxlit | Take this opportunity to purge DBM with fire. |
| 17:58.13 | mikma | i have an idea |
| 17:58.18 | mikma | code better one foxlit |
| 17:58.21 | mikma | poopmaster! |
| 17:58.32 | foxlit | Have no need for puny bossmods |
| 17:59.02 | mikma | that's cause bossmods can't cure your suckiness! |
| 17:59.09 | |Jelly| | I miss AVR |
| 17:59.11 | |Jelly| | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:59.17 | mikma | what's AVR? ;) |
| 17:59.30 | mikma | </successfull fisker trolling> |
| 17:59.38 | |Jelly| | :( |
| 18:00.00 | Fisker | we still have AVR |
| 18:00.05 | Kraps | wuts a Fisker |
| 18:00.16 | mikma | something to tab on |
| 18:00.17 | Alram | fisker is a god |
| 18:01.24 | Kraps | how long was the wrath beta? |
| 18:02.09 | |Jelly| | I love these emails. "You logined your account successfully at 4:27 on June 20th from the 125.94.112.* range, but our system shows the 125.94.112.* IP range exists a large number of hackers." ... my account was frozen on the 20th! |
| 18:02.10 | Fisker | 27 characters |
| 18:03.14 | DJJeff | its not DBMs fault its the new chat box fault |
| 18:03.19 | DJJeff | WIM ADDON works tho :) |
| 18:03.56 | olafski | who says it's not DBM's fault? |
| 18:04.11 | Kraps | nice try Nethaera but meh http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/25552356528/love-this-game-but-the-community/ |
| 18:05.11 | Lopeppeppy | logined! Oh no. |
| 18:05.30 | |Jelly| | inorite |
| 18:06.44 | Lunessa | Kraps: My memory says it was about 5 months. |
| 18:08.06 | Kraps | Lunessa: so at this rate cata wont be out until at least chistmas |
| 18:08.19 | Lopeppeppy | That sounds right, sales-wise. |
| 18:08.31 | Lunessa | Kraps: I suspect that they're shooting for mid-november |
| 18:08.51 | Lunessa | Based on when they have released most other things. |
| 18:09.02 | Lopeppeppy | Holiday sales, tra la la la la. |
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| 18:09.59 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: frankly, my money's on late january :P |
| 18:10.10 | |Jelly| | I'm with Lunessa |
| 18:10.33 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: I won't complain if they push for later, considering beta itself hasn't started yet. |
| 18:10.37 | alestane | "Angels we have heard on high/tell us to go out and buy!" |
| 18:10.50 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: that's what makes me skeptical that we'll see a pre-christmas release. |
| 18:10.52 | Lunessa | alestane: All of your disk jocky friends? |
| 18:11.16 | alestane | Tom Lehrer's "A Christmas Carol". |
| 18:11.57 | Seerah | I have that on my Dr. Demento's Christmas cd :) |
| 18:12.33 | Lopeppeppy | January would be difficult to push. I dunno. |
| 18:13.01 | |Jelly| | January would be fine with me too. Would give me time to play through Medal of Honor and Black Ops. :) |
| 18:13.07 | Seerah | BC came out in Jan., but iirc, that was pushed back |
| 18:13.08 | alestane | "Christmas-time is here by golly/disapproval would be folly/deck the halls with hunks of holly/fill the cup and don't say when; |
| 18:13.08 | alestane | "Kill the turkeys, ducks and chickens/mix the punch, drag out the Dickens/even though the prospect sickens/brother, here we go again." |
| 18:14.43 | Seerah | authentication system maintenance went from 10:30-10:45 to being done at 11:30 |
| 18:15.45 | foxlit | # Send some useless old utensil, or a matching pen or pencil; just the thing I need, how nice. It doesn't matter how sincere it is, nor how heartfelt the spirit, sentiment will not endear it... |
| 18:16.34 | alestane | ...what's important is: the price. |
| 18:16.57 | Thunder_Child | interesting chomes built in dicitonary doesnt have 'copacetic' |
| 18:17.15 | alestane | I don't think it 's a formally acknowledges word in English.\ |
| 18:17.57 | alestane | I could be completely wrong, of course. |
| 18:18.10 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 18:18.19 | Thunder_Child | http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/mwwodarch.pl?Mar.23.2010 |
| 18:19.23 | alestane | copacetic: 1919, but it may have origins in 19c. Amer.Eng. Southern black speech. Origin unknown, suspects include Latin, Yiddish (cf. Heb. kol b'seder ), Italian, Louisiana French ( coupe-sétique ), and Native American. None is considered convincing by linguists. |
| 18:20.18 | Thunder_Child | either way it has been in use in the US for 100 years |
| 18:20.25 | NightHawkTheSane | it's in the OED. it counts :P |
| 18:20.32 | alestane | So it's in the dictionary, but still as a colloquialism. |
| 18:20.34 | Kraps | "Allods Online will replace harsh death penalty with Patch 1.1 |
| 18:21.14 | alestane | That's okay, my wife collects words that her phone's T9 doesn't recognize. |
| 18:21.22 | nicoli_s | allods looked so impressive, but was so goddamn slow |
| 18:21.34 | nicoli_s | i couldnt stand taking like 20+ spell casts to kill each level 1 mob |
| 18:22.15 | alestane | I remember explaining to someone that it knew neither "penguins" nor "defenestrate", and he just looked at me and said "You folks have some really unusual conversations." |
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| 18:22.42 | nicoli_s | how could it not know penguins |
| 18:23.25 | NightHawkTheSane | you know. i really dislike it when Scalia says something i agree with |
| 18:24.08 | cog|work | Lunessa: "Ah just what I was looking for. Danke!" |
| 18:25.18 | NightHawkTheSane | for the record: http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2010/06/24/r-71-case-supreme-court-rules-petitions-can-be-released |
| 18:25.23 | NightHawkTheSane | (woo!) |
| 18:25.31 | Lunessa | cog|work: I'm just that good. |
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| 18:26.30 | Kraps | is DDO browser based? |
| 18:26.51 | NightHawkTheSane | no |
| 18:28.41 | alestane | "Requiring people to stand up in public for their political acts fosters civic courage, without which democracy is doomed." |
| 18:29.02 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: That's some pretty good language. :) |
| 18:30.12 | Lopeppeppy | Democracy requiring things... interesting premise. |
| 18:31.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: yeah, i'm rather pleased with it. |
| 18:31.11 | NightHawkTheSane | goes to lunch |
| 18:33.00 | Kraps | this is why everyone in wow needs to show their real name |
| 18:33.21 | Kraps | everyone on the net actually |
| 18:33.34 | Lopeppeppy | Argh. |
| 18:39.07 | DJJeff | WIM ADDON updated :) |
| 18:39.10 | DJJeff | links work |
| 18:39.11 | DJJeff | but |
| 18:39.16 | DJJeff | they link twice |
| 18:39.18 | DJJeff | X_X |
| 18:39.49 | airtonix | fisker |
| 18:40.01 | DJJeff | linking alchemy for example will show "[alchemy] [alchemy] " |
| 18:40.52 | DJJeff | hrmmmmm Achievements will link only once but professions will link twice |
| 18:41.46 | Lunessa | No Kraps. People campaigning for political change, or changes in law, or people working in fields where /personal accountability/ is crucial should not be anonymous. There are some exceptions and provisos, but in general what you're reading or posting to the internet doesn't require your full identity be made public. |
| 18:42.18 | airtonix | points at fisker |
| 18:42.52 | sylvanaar_atwork | they made it too easy to change your in game identity |
| 18:43.41 | Fisker | airtonix |
| 18:44.37 | airtonix | i created a new breed of baboon fisker |
| 18:45.12 | DJJeff | sylvanaar_atwork: you are working on WIM ADDON right now? |
| 18:45.20 | DJJeff | I see you are an author for that addon |
| 18:45.28 | airtonix | these ones have no sex drive and thus will not be sway'd by your mating rituals |
| 18:45.31 | sylvanaar_atwork | no, im at work working on work stuff |
| 18:47.01 | sylvanaar_atwork | pazza and i added each other as authors, but WIM is pazza's addon though |
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| 18:51.38 | Kraps | http://www.ezpicshare.com/images/1268503838.gif rocket reindeer ftw |
| 18:52.21 | Thunder_Child | no, sylvanaar_atwork should be working on prat |
| 18:52.36 | sylvanaar_atwork | soon |
| 18:52.46 | Thunder_Child | glares @ sylvanaar_atwork |
| 18:54.27 | sylvanaar_atwork | last night i tried updating my server to win7 and destroyed it, so i was occupied with that mess |
| 18:55.14 | Kraps | AdventureQuest Worlds has also parodied the campaign. Its ad shows a warrior's shadows who is shown to be in blue boxers; it also says "play indiscreetly". The game Alteil also parodied the Evony campaign, with an ad that contained a picture of a female character, and the text "She is actually in our game my lord." |
| 18:59.27 | Kraps | theres Evony: Age ll now |
| 18:59.34 | Kraps | II |
| 19:01.47 | NightHawkTheSane | CURRY! |
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| 19:15.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Anyone /really/ good at identifying fonts? |
| 19:16.47 | cog|work | http://www.identifont.com/identify.html *shrug* |
| 19:18.36 | cog|work | NightHawkTheSane: or crowd source it... even if no ONE of us is really good at identifying fonts, you could at least give us a sample to see if it's one of the few we recognize ;) |
| 19:19.04 | cog|work | ~asktoask |
| 19:19.05 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 19:19.10 | Kaso | http://new.myfonts.com/WhatTheFont/ |
| 19:19.15 | Kaso | the bets font identifier |
| 19:19.17 | Kaso | best |
| 19:20.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaso: i found that site, thanks :) |
| 19:20.39 | NightHawkTheSane | cog|work: checking out that site, now. also, here's a screenshot: http://asylumsw.com/files/fab.png |
| 19:21.17 | Kaso | that the font you want? |
| 19:21.23 | Kaso | itll prob be too small for wtf |
| 19:21.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Kaso: yeah, its having a hard time with it |
| 19:23.14 | cog|work | NightHawkTheSane: looks almost like a monospace version of comic sans |
| 19:23.25 | Ackis | INTRODUCING THE IPHONE 4 RETINA DISPLAY: MADE WITH REAL RETINAS FROM SUICIDAL FOXCONN EMPLOYEES |
| 19:23.26 | cog|work | that's pretty neat imo |
| 19:23.29 | Ackis | lulz |
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| 19:23.49 | NightHawkTheSane | cog|work: i like the way it looks, esp the parentheses. |
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| 19:25.39 | Seerah | parentheses are similar to Lucida... |
| 19:26.42 | NightHawkTheSane | identifont is telling me monaco, which is going to make me feel really dumb if it is... >.> |
| 19:27.08 | cog|work | NightHawkTheSane: it looks like it might be |
| 19:27.16 | cog|work | perhaps rendered at a small size and blown up? |
| 19:27.58 | cog|work | zooming out on the image makes it seem even more likely |
| 19:28.26 | cog|work | http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2007/10/revisiting-programming-fonts.html |
| 19:29.08 | cog|work | i still keep going back to consolas though |
| 19:29.23 | mikma | <3 Fixedsys |
| 19:29.50 | NightHawkTheSane | cog|work: likely, the screenshot is from a movie of a presenation someone gave |
| 19:30.16 | Seerah | cog|work: not consolas. different letter styles |
| 19:30.20 | NightHawkTheSane | cog|work: I've been really liking Anonymous Pro ately. |
| 19:30.31 | NightHawkTheSane | lately* |
| 19:30.39 | cog|work | Seerah: i mean that every font i try leaves me wanting, and i find my way back to consolas |
| 19:30.48 | Seerah | ohhh |
| 19:30.56 | cog|work | failed at establishing context |
| 19:31.00 | Seerah | yeah, that's what I have set on Notepad++, too |
| 19:31.15 | Ackis | star trek online is on sale on steam FYI |
| 19:31.36 | Ackis | 16.99 for normal, 20.99 for deluxe |
| 19:31.38 | cog|work | the only thing that would make consolas better would be more complete unicode coverage |
| 19:32.32 | Seerah | This font looks pretty nifty... http://www.dafont.com/monofur.font?nb_ppp=50&psize=s&text=(+"Nothing+matched!"+)+404 |
| 19:32.45 | Seerah | sighs |
| 19:32.54 | Seerah | http://www.dafont.com/font.php?file=monofur&page=1&nb_ppp_old=50&text=&nb_ppp=50&psize=s&classt=alpha |
| 19:33.12 | Fisker | haha |
| 19:33.18 | Fisker | Blizzard is fucking up Gearscore |
| 19:33.23 | cog|work | wat |
| 19:33.25 | Fisker | to an extent |
| 19:33.29 | Fisker | http://www.wowace.com/announcements/blizzard-to-start-throttling-inspect-requests/ |
| 19:33.33 | Shadowed | That does look pretty nifty Seerah :P |
| 19:33.57 | Seerah | Fisker: that will impact way more than GearScore ;) |
| 19:34.14 | Seerah | any tooltip mod (such as TipTop) would have to deal with it, too |
| 19:34.47 | Fisker | i know Seerah |
| 19:35.13 | Fisker | but i hate gearscore the most |
| 19:37.04 | sylvanaar_atwork | cog|work: i like consolas too, i use it for irc even |
| 19:37.06 | Thunder_Child | so sayeth people with a loew score |
| 19:37.12 | cog|work | yeah me too |
| 19:37.24 | cog|work | (also one of the reasons it needs better unicode support) |
| 19:37.31 | Lunessa | Anything that says "What's your spec?" |
| 19:37.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: i'd be okay if those broke too. :P |
| 19:38.03 | Shadowed | It'll also break things like Grids sorting by role |
| 19:38.10 | sylvanaar_atwork | wonder what monospace font has the highest unicode glyph coverage |
| 19:38.11 | Shadowed | and will take longer for it to figure out everything |
| 19:38.12 | Lunessa | But... my beloved TipTop from sweet, sweet Seerah will have issues with this... |
| 19:38.12 | Thunder_Child | i guess addons are going to have to institute info sharing |
| 19:38.15 | Thunder_Child | more anyway |
| 19:38.59 | cog|work | sylvanaar_atwork: courier new on windows |
| 19:39.08 | cog|work | still nowhere near arial unicode ms though |
| 19:39.21 | Fisker | i wonder if it's related to the server crashes on our server actually |
| 19:39.22 | Fisker | :o |
| 19:40.43 | cog|work | sylvanaar_atwork: not sure how courier new compares with dejavu sans mono |
| 19:41.09 | cog|work | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DejaVu_fonts#Coverage |
| 19:42.31 | Lunessa | Seerah: Monofur does look nice. |
| 19:42.43 | Seerah | off to a work meeting. (ugh at the 96 feels like 111 temps out there) |
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| 19:44.46 | Ackis | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/real-id-clean/ that seems like a useful addon |
| 19:47.24 | frontendloader | 500 internal server error! |
| 19:47.51 | frontendloader | rip curseforge |
| 19:48.03 | Ackis | Kaelten is messing around with the gnomes that power CF |
| 19:48.58 | zenzelezz | gnomes power ColdFusion? It all makes sense now |
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| 19:49.50 | Fisker | i will |
| 19:49.52 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 19:49.53 | Fisker | i will |
| 19:49.57 | Fisker | i will fuck you up |
| 19:49.58 | nicoli_s | and its back! |
| 19:50.32 | Ackis | nicoli_s: sto is on sale on steam, you should let me refer you, and then buy the game so I get the referral bonus of something that I'm not sure about |
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| 19:51.15 | nicoli_s | meh, sto didnt seem itneresting to me one bit, sry |
| 19:51.25 | nicoli_s | now maybe if you sent me yer xbox..... |
| 19:51.32 | Ackis | do it 4 me!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 19:51.54 | mikma | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info15399-gChat.html |
| 19:51.56 | mikma | wait, what? |
| 19:52.06 | mikma | unfinished, uploaded, and approved? |
| 19:52.16 | sylvanaar_atwork | cog|work: dejavu sans mono looks pretty good |
| 19:52.59 | sylvanaar_atwork | maybe a little too thin |
| 19:53.36 | NeoTron | I'm actually having fun in STO atm. it's definitely not wow, and might not last months or years, but I think it's more interesting and fun than say Champions Online |
| 19:53.42 | NeoTron | and def worth 17 bucks :P |
| 19:54.01 | Ackis | see! it's worth $17!!! now buy and let me refer you!!!!!!!!! |
| 19:54.05 | Ackis | !! |
| 19:54.12 | Ackis | (needed more ! for emphasis) |
| 19:54.26 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/731588848 |
| 19:54.46 | nicoli_s | lol |
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| 19:55.33 | Ackis | nicoli_s: were you laughing at garfieldminusgarfield? |
| 19:59.52 | malreth | http://linkbaitgenerator.com/ |
| 20:00.09 | malreth | easily the funniest thing on the interblags today |
| 20:00.17 | malreth | "6 depraved sexual fetishes involving World of Warcraft" |
| 20:00.34 | Ackis | Kotaku let these people review a video game... instead of making my sammich! http://kotaku.com/5571850/intern-deathmatch-hey-baby |
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| 20:02.03 | malreth | "7 bizarre ways Lunessa can kill you suddenly" |
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| 20:02.41 | Lunessa | ... Did you include the poisoned fangs? |
| 20:03.04 | malreth | "8 unbelievable ways Cairenn and Seerah have been used by the military" |
| 20:03.10 | malreth | o_o |
| 20:03.37 | Lopeppeppy | has 12 ways! |
| 20:04.30 | Lunessa | It's pretty funny. |
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| 20:07.19 | Lopeppeppy | Why is it already 4? |
| 20:07.41 | nicoli_s | its not its 3:09 |
| 20:07.45 | zenzelezz | you wish to remain at work? |
| 20:09.40 | Lopeppeppy | I wish to stop beating my head on the wall of wasting time. |
| 20:10.13 | zenzelezz | you need new hobbies |
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| 20:10.37 | Lopeppeppy | For serious. |
| 20:11.32 | malreth | my coworker office mate says just the most completely random things |
| 20:12.11 | Ackis | beats Lopeppeppy's head against the wall. |
| 20:12.22 | Ackis | hmm that's actually a good stress relief mechanism |
| 20:12.26 | cog|work | mine says the most pseudorandom things |
| 20:12.53 | cog|work | ~poke Ackis |
| 20:12.54 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Ackis, pokes Ackis repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 20:12.56 | NightHawkTheSane | mine are all talking about the world cup |
| 20:13.30 | cog|work | NightHawkTheSane: i guess i should be glad all the people in the office are old-ish wimmins unconcerned with sports |
| 20:13.44 | NightHawkTheSane | cog|work: eh, i dont mind. i'm enjoying the world cup myself :) |
| 20:13.48 | Lopeppeppy | I need someone to watch football with. Argh. |
| 20:14.12 | NightHawkTheSane | glances over at the two windows with the two current games streaming in them |
| 20:14.18 | malreth | just out of the blue: "I don't see the point in buying the iPhone today. I'm going to wait until September before I jump that shark." |
| 20:14.30 | NightHawkTheSane | malreth: what? |
| 20:14.33 | malreth | yeah |
| 20:14.34 | NightHawkTheSane | thats a total non sequitur |
| 20:15.06 | Lopeppeppy | ... shark. Very sharky. |
| 20:15.45 | Lunessa | ... jump that shark. |
| 20:16.32 | Lopeppeppy | Tricky fish. |
| 20:16.47 | malreth | technically, not a fish. but i would agree... very tricky |
| 20:17.02 | Lopeppeppy | That's why it's tricky! |
| 20:17.11 | malreth | ooh! that fish tricked me! |
| 20:17.27 | malreth | sharks aren't fish |
| 20:17.32 | malreth | ooh! he tricked me double! |
| 20:17.41 | Ackis | http://cheezfailbooking.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/funny-facebook-fap-poster.png |
| 20:17.45 | Ackis | :( |
| 20:18.25 | Lopeppeppy | Dolphin is a friendly fish! Ooh, not a dolphin, it's a shark! Tricky fish! |
| 20:18.39 | alestane | I said you could teach me about football, Peppy. |
| 20:18.49 | alestane | I just can't watch it in person with you right now. |
| 20:19.02 | Ackis | Isn't a dolphin a mammal? |
| 20:21.03 | Ackis | operationalizing (sp) |
| 20:21.03 | batbot | Ackis, my best guesses are operationalize-e+ing. |
| 20:21.06 | malreth | Ackis: that's what they want you to believe |
| 20:24.32 | Lunessa | Football, not my thing, either version. |
| 20:24.48 | cog|work | malreth: makes perfect sense to me. anyone who buys an iphone jumped the shark imo |
| 20:25.00 | cog|work | /cast Fanboi Shield |
| 20:25.37 | malreth | quantum entangles a shark inside of cog|work's shield |
| 20:27.18 | cog|work | collapses malreth's wave function |
| 20:27.43 | Lunessa | lanches cog|work, shield and all, into a millennia-long orbit about the solar system. Take that! |
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| 20:28.27 | cog|work | s/lanches/punts/ |
| 20:28.44 | Cide | s/punts/prods/ |
| 20:28.44 | zenzelezz | inverts Lunessa's polarity |
| 20:29.32 | Lunessa | suddenly becomes positively charged and hands out happy-fun time emotes. *bounce*bounce*happy*happy*joy*joy* |
| 20:29.49 | cog|work | gets dizzy from Lunessa's bouncing |
| 20:30.09 | NightHawkTheSane | turns Lunessa down a notch. |
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| 20:30.18 | malreth | imagines all life as he knows it, stopping instantaneously and every molecule of his body exploding at the speed of light. |
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| 20:31.05 | Lunessa | loads malreth's file in emacs and replaces all characters with NULL. |
| 20:31.06 | NightHawkTheSane | what, like the end of eva? |
| 20:31.11 | cog|work | someone has jumped the shark! |
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| 20:31.43 | cog|work | |Jelly| jumped the shark too! |
| 20:31.58 | |Jelly| | Do what, now? |
| 20:32.09 | malreth | NightHawkTheSane: a giant glowing naked chick from space turning us all into orange julius? |
| 20:32.11 | NightHawkTheSane | actually, i only jumped a pygmy shark |
| 20:32.12 | Adys | http://blog.ksplice.com/2010/06/attack-of-the-cosmic-rays/ |
| 20:32.15 | Adys | really cool article |
| 20:32.22 | cog|work | 3:14 < malreth> just out of the blue: "I don't see the point in buying the iPhone today. I'm going to wait until September before I jump that shark." |
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| 20:33.41 | nicoli_s | Adys:cool if you understand linuxy stuff :P |
| 20:33.59 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 20:34.03 | |Jelly| | Definitely waiting for a while. |
| 20:34.13 | |Jelly| | I learned with my PS2 not to get first shipment anything. |
| 20:34.14 | Adys | nicoli_s, it's cool either way really |
| 20:34.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Adys: that is pretty cool |
| 20:36.10 | cog|work | 13:24 < cog|work> malreth: makes perfect sense to me. anyone who buys an iphone jumped the shark imo |
| 20:36.25 | cog|work | |Jelly|: ^ |
| 20:36.41 | |Jelly| | Well then, I'm glad that I could come in the conversation when I did. :P |
| 20:37.11 | malreth | true story: one of my old managers became a legend at the call center that I used to work at doing tech support. someone called in saying that they were convinced that their RAM was having 'parity errors'. This manager went back and forth with the customer trying to convince him that it either wasn't a problem, or that it would go away after a reboot... |
| 20:38.35 | malreth | eventually, he gave up and said, "sir... there are the particles called neutrinos that can sometime just fly through space and flip a bit at random." the customer, oddly seemed satisfied with this answer and hung up. he called back later saying that he had "removed the CDROM drive and patched over the hole in the case with aluminum foil" and wanted to know if that would be sufficient to stop the neutrinos. |
| 20:38.57 | nicoli_s | haha |
| 20:39.37 | Shadowed | haha |
| 20:39.46 | zenzelezz | Adys: interesting link |
| 20:39.48 | Adys | I think being able to track down a single bit flip in a ram error is really astonishing |
| 20:39.54 | Adys | but then again, gdb helps a lot :P |
| 20:40.13 | Thunder_Child | the reply should have been "only if you run a current through the aluminum foil" |
| 20:40.17 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, the forensics involved is pretty neat |
| 20:40.20 | zenzelezz | IM IN UR RAMS FLIPPIN UR BITS |
| 20:40.43 | Thunder_Child | IM IN UR RAMS FLIPPIN UR EWES |
| 20:41.54 | malreth | i've been pinging random a lot today... |
| 20:43.45 | Thunder_Child | "Dont judge me. He may have been ugly but he was INCREDIBLE. He's like the Susan Boyle of sex." |
| 20:44.35 | malreth | What a coincidence... I imagine Susan Boyle when having sex so that I can be the Susan Boyle of sex! |
| 20:47.24 | Shadowed | Anyone using agUF still? |
| 20:48.44 | Thunder_Child | someone i am sure |
| 20:48.54 | Thunder_Child | someone is still using discord |
| 20:49.30 | Fisker | i still use nUF |
| 20:49.34 | Fisker | Nurfed UnitFrames |
| 20:51.03 | mikma | snuf |
| 20:51.24 | mikma | i use default frames and default bars |
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| 20:52.01 | Thunder_Child | they still work? i thought they broke patch 1.0 |
| 20:52.05 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/wow/lol/WoWScrnShot_062310_185008.jpg |
| 20:53.36 | Kalroth | omfg 80? really?! |
| 20:54.37 | mikma | yes |
| 20:54.47 | NeoTron | server first? |
| 20:54.54 | zenzelezz | world first! |
| 20:55.11 | Adys | psht |
| 20:55.15 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/adys/ding.jpg ! |
| 20:55.37 | Adys | rubs it up Kalroth's |
| 20:55.44 | Kalroth | Adys: wrong server you suck |
| 20:56.18 | zenzelezz | why did the achievements spam twice? |
| 20:56.49 | nicoli_s | thats nothing, if i wanted a world first id just make an emu server to tell me i got world first :P |
| 20:56.55 | Thunder_Child | zenzelezz: 2 diff ones |
| 20:57.04 | Adys | no Thunder_Child |
| 20:57.08 | Adys | he meant in chat |
| 20:57.22 | Adys | one is the server-wide announce, second one is the local one |
| 20:57.27 | zenzelezz | ah |
| 20:57.39 | Ackis | Adys rubs it up Kalroth's <-- O_o |
| 20:57.46 | Adys | you want some? |
| 20:57.53 | Kalroth | pft, my server firsts were better |
| 20:58.10 | Adys | i just implemented paging in my webdbc viewer |
| 20:58.11 | Adys | is happy |
| 20:58.20 | mikma | adys: did that got you turned on? |
| 20:58.30 | Ackis | server first achievements are what killed WoW for me tbh :( |
| 20:58.35 | Adys | get* |
| 20:58.54 | Adys | serverfirst 80 race is the only fun thing ive done in wow since wlk |
| 20:59.05 | mikma | adys: did it? |
| 20:59.10 | Kalroth | since wlk, eh? |
| 20:59.17 | nicoli_s | Adys: youd be better off designing a framework where you dont have to implement paging on every data structure :P |
| 20:59.31 | Kaso | I wonder if any server firsts didnt play beta |
| 20:59.37 | Adys | nicoli_s: eh? |
| 20:59.39 | Ackis | Adys: I was top 5 for leveling when the first 80 dinged on my shitty server at the time, ended up just not giving a shit |
| 20:59.44 | Adys | nicoli_s: it's 4 lines |
| 20:59.54 | Kalroth | Kaso: I didn't play beta, for what its worth :) |
| 21:00.10 | mikma | adys: also, my words are fine as they are, they dont need to be "fixed" by anyone |
| 21:00.13 | Adys | nicoli_s: http://dpaste.com/211148/ |
| 21:00.26 | Ackis | and then WoW went downhill for me :( and the only reason I come on IRC is because of all you wonderful people!!! :'( |
| 21:00.32 | Adys | mikma: you mean corrected |
| 21:00.48 | mikma | you can fix your own words as much as you like but stay the fuck away from mine |
| 21:00.48 | Thunder_Child | "iPhone photo doodle is awesome. I gave my vagina some lazers and sent it to him. He has a whole series waiting on his phone for when he gets off the plane." >.< |
| 21:00.56 | Adys | mikma: but they're so arousing |
| 21:00.57 | mikma | adys: no, i said fixed |
| 21:01.00 | nicoli_s | ahh the python hurts my eyes! |
| 21:01.21 | nicoli_s | it burns it does! |
| 21:01.45 | mikma | adys: no, its just god. http://mikma.eu/misc/god.png |
| 21:01.58 | Adys | seen it |
| 21:01.58 | Adys | old |
| 21:02.13 | mikma | awesome* |
| 21:02.26 | Adys | both |
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| 21:09.56 | malreth | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfY4YB1fBKs |
| 21:12.56 | NeoTron | mikma: http://xmb.stuffucanuse.com/xmb/image.php?&aid=1731&god-action-figure.jpg |
| 21:13.11 | alestane | Here comes the rain again. |
| 21:13.16 | alestane | I wondered why it was so dark. |
| 21:20.11 | Ackis | fuck I wanted to ask fisker a question |
| 21:20.15 | Ackis | anyone here have Dirt 2 on GFWL? |
| 21:20.41 | alestane | Heya, Cairenn. |
| 21:20.45 | alestane | You were all gone yesterday. |
| 21:20.47 | Cairenn | hey alestane |
| 21:20.50 | Cairenn | yup |
| 21:21.00 | Cairenn | technical difficulties |
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| 21:22.33 | olafski | ackis: so what you're saying is you're a sore loser and that ruined wow for you? ;) |
| 21:22.52 | malreth | confirms... that was a burn |
| 21:22.57 | Ackis | wow |
| 21:23.03 | Ackis | I'm removing you as a friend on facebook |
| 21:23.07 | olafski | :( |
| 21:23.08 | Ackis | (gonna keep your gf though, she's cute) |
| 21:23.12 | Ackis | :P |
| 21:23.17 | malreth | ZING! |
| 21:26.11 | Lunessa | LOL |
| 21:27.37 | cog|work | jnwhiteh: "When are you gonna do the Evony edition?" |
| 21:27.45 | cog|work | lulz |
| 21:30.44 | Lunessa | doesn't get it. |
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| 21:31.25 | Fisker | fucking magnets |
| 21:31.39 | Ackis | anyone here have Dirt 2 on GFWL? <-- Fisker |
| 21:31.59 | Fisker | no Ackis |
| 21:32.01 | Fisker | no. |
| 21:32.11 | Ackis | do you not know? |
| 21:32.21 | Fisker | NO! |
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| 21:32.30 | olafski | I got 1000/1000 in a game today ackis |
| 21:32.35 | Ackis | lies |
| 21:32.38 | Ackis | what game? |
| 21:32.42 | Kalroth | GFWL more like games for wankers and losers |
| 21:32.53 | Kalroth | GFWL suuux |
| 21:32.56 | Fisker | yeah Kalroth |
| 21:32.59 | Fisker | you have been agreed with |
| 21:33.06 | olafski | ackis: lego indiana jones :=) |
| 21:33.07 | Fisker | what are you going to do about it? |
| 21:33.12 | olafski | working on lego SW TCS now |
| 21:33.16 | Kalroth | Fisker: Unacceptable!! |
| 21:33.55 | Ackis | olafski: fun game :) I need to do batman and SW as well |
| 21:35.12 | nicoli_s | GFWL? |
| 21:35.36 | Kalroth | games for windows live |
| 21:35.39 | nicoli_s | ahh |
| 21:35.49 | nicoli_s | damn initialisms |
| 21:36.23 | Ackis | nichdu: TLA's we call em |
| 21:36.34 | cog|work | ~nicoli_s++ |
| 21:36.38 | durcyn | that's an FLA, you canadian. |
| 21:36.46 | Ackis | lol durcyn |
| 21:36.47 | cog|work | (for not calling it an acronym) |
| 21:36.48 | Ackis | ~durcyn++ |
| 21:37.02 | nicoli_s | cog|work:heh i learned that just recently from an episode of penn and teller bullshit |
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| 21:37.14 | Ackis | I work in the government, so any sentence I say can have 5-10 TLA's in it |
| 21:37.18 | olafski | ackis: yeah indiana jones is my fav so far.. haven't got batman, but I tried the harry potter demo and didn't really like it |
| 21:37.45 | cog|work | nicoli_s: my grandma was on that show |
| 21:37.45 | olafski | preordered crackdown 2 too :D |
| 21:37.54 | nicoli_s | cog|work:what for? |
| 21:38.11 | cog|work | Season 3 episode 1 |
| 21:38.18 | cog|work | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bullshit!_episodes#Season_3:_2005 |
| 21:38.36 | nicoli_s | hmm dunno if i ever saw that one |
| 21:38.50 | nicoli_s | yer grandma there to talk about how horrible it was when she was circumcised? |
| 21:38.55 | nicoli_s | :P |
| 21:39.02 | cog|work | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marilyn_Milos |
| 21:39.31 | Thunder_Child | err...what nicoli_s? |
| 21:39.48 | Ackis | still wants My Horse and Me 2 |
| 21:40.02 | nicoli_s | wtf they have foreskin restoration |
| 21:40.20 | nicoli_s | why dont people just get that instead of taking extenze pills |
| 21:40.24 | Ackis | nicoli_s: for those cases when you lose it in a bj accident |
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| 21:40.42 | Torhal | Ackis: Braces much? |
| 21:40.54 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 21:42.16 | Ackis | YOUR MOM |
| 21:42.16 | Ackis | man |
| 21:42.29 | Ackis | I made a your mom joke to my fiancée last night |
| 21:42.37 | Ackis | those jokes aren't that funny when you know the "mom" in question |
| 21:42.48 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 21:42.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Ackis: ... i beg to differ |
| 21:43.03 | NightHawkTheSane | i make those jokes to friends who's parents i've met all the time. |
| 21:43.17 | Ackis | "I fucked your mom last night" isn't one of them right? |
| 21:43.34 | olafski | I make your mom jokes to my brother |
| 21:43.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Ackis: sure, why not? although i've tended to move on from the obvious/crude versions like that. |
| 21:43.58 | NightHawkTheSane | i try to be more absurd |
| 21:46.43 | NightHawkTheSane | Anyone good with CSS? I want to apply a property to a list item that has a hidden (display:none) UL beneath it. |
| 21:46.54 | NightHawkTheSane | (but not list items with non-hidden UL children) |
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| 21:52.02 | NightHawkTheSane | cog|work, Lunessa: not sure if you saw this ars article about the iphone antenna thing: http://arstechnica.com/apple/news/2010/06/new-iphone-4-antenna-causing-potential-reception-issues.ars |
| 21:52.27 | Kraps | http://www.overheardinnewyork.com/archives/000383.html |
| 21:52.31 | NightHawkTheSane | looks like it might be specifically related to bridging that gap on the left side, so if you dont happen to hold it in a way that does that, you dont see the problem |
| 21:52.34 | cog|work | NightHawkTheSane: indeed :) |
| 21:52.57 | NightHawkTheSane | i can easily see how that gets missed. |
| 21:53.52 | malreth | it should have come up at least once during field tests |
| 21:54.13 | malreth | you know... when their phones weren't being stolen from bars |
| 21:54.15 | cog|work | schadenfreudes iphone users |
| 21:55.24 | NightHawkTheSane | malreth: yeah, it should have. |
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| 21:55.52 | malreth | unless they couldn't tell because AT&T sucks and they thought it was just normal |
| 21:55.55 | Lunessa | I ocncur. |
| 21:55.59 | Lunessa | concur even |
| 21:56.48 | malreth | "it's like AT&T knows when I want to make a call... fuckers. lemme flip the 'Use Verizon' switch." |
| 21:57.31 | cog|work | malreth: i figure it didn't come up in field tests because they were all wearing iphone 3 costumes, hence hiding the metal from grubby fingers |
| 21:57.41 | Thunder_Child | oncurs Lunessa |
| 21:57.43 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/06/24/funny-pictures-riavalrey-we-haz-it/ |
| 21:57.46 | malreth | cog|work: good point |
| 21:59.50 | NightHawkTheSane | it's likely, but not really a good excuse. |
| 22:01.50 | Ackis | "Capitalize titles when discussing the Ku Klux Klan, e.g. Imperial Wizard, Grand Dragon, Level 8 Night Elf." |
| 22:03.16 | Kraps | this is useful http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs |
| 22:04.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Ackis: fakeapstylebook is awesome :) |
| 22:04.48 | Ackis | lol yup |
| 22:07.56 | foxlit | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/BNGetFriendInfo << yikes? |
| 22:08.27 | zenzelezz | http://www.gucomics.com/comics/2010/gu_20100624.jpg |
| 22:08.34 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: =) |
| 22:08.42 | foxlit | It's on every page. |
| 22:08.42 | jnwhiteh | I've emailed him twice |
| 22:08.49 | jnwhiteh | he's helping a lot, but he's making my life more difficult =) |
| 22:08.53 | foxlit | The HUGE H1-style warning, that is |
| 22:09.00 | jnwhiteh | It's an H2 =) |
| 22:09.12 | foxlit | When you have no H1's... :) |
| 22:09.17 | jnwhiteh | heheh |
| 22:09.25 | jnwhiteh | the div is id 'emergencyMessage' |
| 22:09.31 | jnwhiteh | since people don't read freaking email |
| 22:09.37 | jnwhiteh | and I'll fix it before I go to bed |
| 22:09.38 | foxlit | Mm, that sucks. |
| 22:09.45 | jnwhiteh | but the docs are full of 'unknown', 'unknown' |
| 22:09.47 | foxlit | You presumably require people contributing docs to log in, though |
| 22:09.59 | jnwhiteh | when shit is clearly labelled in the FrameXML |
| 22:10.05 | jnwhiteh | Yes, people must be logged in to edit |
| 22:10.15 | foxlit | Could tailor the message to the logged in username, then :) |
| 22:10.35 | jnwhiteh | I don't expect to have it up for very long, but yes, I'll do that. |
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| 22:15.17 | Thunder_Child | "<jnwhiteh> I don't expect to have it up for very long, but yes, I'll do that." fist line i see whene i look back in this channel >.< |
| 22:15.20 | Thunder_Child | first* |
| 22:15.24 | Thunder_Child | when* |
| 22:15.28 | Kraps | hey Ackis, is Canadia a legit term? |
| 22:15.33 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 22:16.06 | Ackis | Kraps: mockingly yeah it is |
| 22:16.20 | Fisker | hey hey hey jnwhiteh |
| 22:16.27 | Kraps | mocks Ackis |
| 22:16.36 | Torhal | Don't mock Ackis - he'll drop a bed on your toe. |
| 22:16.44 | Ackis | Torhal: and take pics! |
| 22:16.49 | Torhal | Yesssss |
| 22:17.08 | Kraps | eh? |
| 22:17.09 | Ackis | my doctor winced when I told her I pulled a nail out with pliers |
| 22:17.15 | Ackis | then she grabbed my balls O_o |
| 22:17.37 | Kraps | hawt |
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| 22:20.14 | Fisker | imma jnwhiteh u |
| 22:20.29 | Kraps | *Fun fact: The word yellow also cannot be used to name guild tabs.* |
| 22:20.40 | Fisker | :o Kraps |
| 22:20.59 | Kraps | so says Ujumqin |
| 22:21.36 | Fisker | you have been disagreed with Kraps |
| 22:24.54 | Fisker | you Fisker |
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| 22:25.54 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: fixed =) |
| 22:26.02 | foxlit | jnwhiteh: cheers :) |
| 22:26.06 | jnwhiteh | require("sputnik.hacks.magdain") |
| 22:26.29 | Fisker | you frf83 jnwhiteh ? |
| 22:26.40 | jnwhiteh | yes, I did |
| 22:26.53 | Fisker | you're pretty awesome then |
| 22:27.30 | jnwhiteh | Alright, I'm off to bed. |
| 22:27.49 | Fisker | i just burped |
| 22:27.51 | Fisker | goodnight jnwhiteh |
| 22:30.45 | Fisker | zomg |
| 22:30.54 | Fisker | what did Blizzard change in the new wow remote for android |
| 22:44.53 | cog|work | I love how all the BN apis use "Toon" >< |
| 22:45.09 | cog|work | s/all // |
| 22:48.04 | foxlit | What do they have against yellow, Kraps? |
| 22:48.25 | cog|work | foxlit: racism against asians? |
| 22:48.28 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: they are cowardly |
| 22:49.01 | cog|work | http://failblog.org/2010/06/02/epic-fail-photos-passport-rejection-fail/ |
| 22:49.38 | foxlit | To be fair, the photograph does look too yellow |
| 22:49.39 | Kraps | cog|work: lawsuit = win |
| 22:50.30 | foxlit | Also, shirt blends into background. |
| 22:50.40 | foxlit | Bad photographer, imo. |
| 22:50.56 | cog|work | unbalanced whitey |
| 22:54.06 | Kraps | i dont get this, ilevel > everything else http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/729057-Blue-Epics-will-be-epic-again-in-Cataclysm! |
| 22:54.25 | Kraps | i dont care but whats the big deal? |
| 22:54.39 | foxlit | Kraps: THEM RUBBLE MUST NOT GET MY PURPZ> |
| 22:55.06 | foxlit | ALSO, VANILLA IS TOTALLY AWESOME. LF14M UBRS. ONLY PEOPLE WITH KEYS. |
| 22:56.04 | Xyphoid | hopefully all badge gear is blue |
| 22:56.06 | Xyphoid | for the hilarity |
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| 22:56.32 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont see why it matters. |
| 22:56.42 | foxlit | It's pure epeen flexing |
| 22:56.54 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: which doesn't matter except to idiots who's opinions dont count. |
| 22:56.55 | Kraps | Xyphoid: idiots will prevent me from pugging raids, no thanks |
| 22:56.57 | foxlit | "I have the purple gear. You scum have blue gear. Inferior! EXTERMINATE" |
| 22:57.09 | Cide | it's a better model though |
| 22:57.10 | Xyphoid | why are you pugging with idiots |
| 22:57.15 | Cide | helps distinguish items |
| 22:57.29 | NightHawkTheSane | Cide: purely aestetic though. |
| 22:57.32 | foxlit | Well, meh. |
| 22:57.34 | Cide | not really |
| 22:57.41 | Cide | mostly, but not 100% |
| 22:57.46 | foxlit | As someone said, it's only really interesting if you for some reason can't rely on item level. |
| 22:57.46 | Xyphoid | aesthetics is a good reason to do things for changes that don't matter |
| 22:57.51 | Cide | it'd be pretty annoying if all items were white, for example |
| 22:57.53 | NightHawkTheSane | they could do away with uncommon/rare/epic, and just make the ilvl variations larger |
| 22:58.07 | Cide | they could |
| 22:58.15 | Cide | but it would make it way harder to understand the game for new players |
| 22:58.19 | Cide | and harder to browse through items |
| 22:58.21 | Cide | and backpacks |
| 22:58.22 | Cide | etc |
| 22:58.38 | Cide | but from a gameplay perspective everything would be the same, yes |
| 22:58.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Cide: agreed, thats mostly aestitics/form, rather than underlying function. the gear would BE the same |
| 22:58.48 | Cide | yes |
| 22:58.53 | Cide | but that's still why this is a good idea |
| 22:59.04 | Cide | a very good idea actually |
| 22:59.05 | NightHawkTheSane | Yeah, from that angle, I agree. |
| 22:59.18 | NightHawkTheSane | I just loath the entitled idiots frothing over it |
| 22:59.48 | NightHawkTheSane | i almost wish all gear WAS white just to piss them off. but i'm vindictive. :P |
| 22:59.52 | foxlit | But I'm not sure what they're suggesting. |
| 22:59.57 | Xyphoid | i think gear should be colored on your model based on rarity |
| 22:59.59 | foxlit | Most original heroic gear is blue. |
| 23:00.06 | foxlit | With one epic item per end-boss. |
| 23:00.13 | Cide | until you get to the newer heroics |
| 23:00.15 | foxlit | ICC/ToC loot is epic. |
| 23:00.23 | Xyphoid | so raiders are actually purple-colored when you see them |
| 23:00.24 | Cide | and those dungeons are absolutely trivial |
| 23:00.27 | foxlit | However, the scenario where that'd be rare is undesirable. |
| 23:00.32 | Cide | no |
| 23:00.39 | Cide | trivial content gives out epics |
| 23:00.41 | foxlit | "Hey guyz, do I replace my i200 epic with my i232 blue?" |
| 23:00.45 | Cide | that's not how it should be |
| 23:00.53 | Cide | there won't be i200 epics with the new design |
| 23:01.07 | Cide | not from raids anyway |
| 23:01.12 | foxlit | So you'll never introduce heroics above the first raid tier? |
| 23:01.16 | foxlit | ^with loot |
| 23:01.20 | Cide | sure |
| 23:01.29 | Cide | but it's unlikely it'd be better ilevel until MUCH later |
| 23:01.35 | Cide | and at that point I think that transition is fine |
| 23:01.39 | Xyphoid | i just assume the result would be ToC5 dropping ilvl 219 blues, and ICC5 dropping 232 blues |
| 23:01.43 | foxlit | We're kind of at that point. |
| 23:01.44 | Cide | say icc 5 man > naxx 10 man |
| 23:01.45 | Xyphoid | maybe with epics from final bosses |
| 23:01.51 | foxlit | ToC was much later than NAXX |
| 23:02.18 | Cide | I don't see how it's better design to say "everything over a certain ilevel is epic" |
| 23:02.34 | foxlit | It removes upgrade ambiguity. "Do I replace this low epic with this high rare?" |
| 23:02.52 | Xyphoid | upgrade ambiguity is a good thing in my view |
| 23:02.54 | NightHawkTheSane | I think blizzard is trying to encourage that ambiguity a little, th ough |
| 23:02.56 | Cide | if you raid continuously you never will |
| 23:03.10 | NightHawkTheSane | to make you stop looking at ilvl and color, and look at the actual stats, and make an intelligent decision on your own. |
| 23:03.27 | Cide | you only will if you find a single epic during some pub raid early on in the expansion and then never raid again |
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| 23:03.31 | Cide | and then you do 5 mans |
| 23:03.40 | Kraps | NightHawkTheSane: ratingsbuster or go home :p |
| 23:03.47 | Cide | I don't think it's a problem that those blues much later in the expansion are better than the single epic you got early on |
| 23:03.54 | Xyphoid | i mean there's a built-in comparison tool now anyway |
| 23:04.01 | NightHawkTheSane | Kraps: in a perfect world, even RB isn't necessary, because the stats arent so hard to understand that you need it |
| 23:04.10 | NightHawkTheSane | we're not there, but we're moving in that direction. |
| 23:04.25 | Cide | if you're a raider you will not have any rarity downgrade, ilevel upgrade problems |
| 23:05.24 | foxlit | But what's actually gained? |
| 23:05.29 | Cide | clarity |
| 23:05.36 | foxlit | For whom? |
| 23:05.42 | Cide | everyone |
| 23:05.50 | foxlit | You may provide an example. |
| 23:06.12 | Cide | you inspect someone and his gear is epic; he has good gear -- raid gear or high level arenas/rated bgs |
| 23:06.23 | foxlit | You inspect someone and he has tier 1 epics. |
| 23:06.30 | Kraps | ^ |
| 23:06.32 | foxlit | You inspect someone and he has tier 4 rares. |
| 23:06.56 | Cide | that's a minor problem and it's only evident, *again*, quite late into the expansion |
| 23:07.08 | foxlit | So the wotlk design is *good*. |
| 23:07.13 | Cide | I disagree |
| 23:07.22 | foxlit | Since it leaves us with this minor problem only evident quite late in the expansion |
| 23:07.23 | Cide | similarly, if you inspect someone and he's in greens, you know that his gear sucksdonkeyballs |
| 23:07.31 | Cide | the wotlk design doesn't solve your problem though |
| 23:07.35 | Cide | it provides no more information |
| 23:07.42 | foxlit | It provides no conflicting information |
| 23:07.51 | Cide | you still don't know if said epics are tier 1 raid, tier 4 dungeon, tier 4 raid or anything inbetween |
| 23:07.54 | foxlit | epics unambiguously better than blues. |
| 23:08.01 | Cide | maybe in your incorrect mindset |
| 23:08.01 | foxlit | for everything else, there's item level. |
| 23:08.10 | Xyphoid | i think it's handy to be able to look at someone and go 'he has raided' 'he does heroics' |
| 23:08.17 | Xyphoid | at any point throughout the expansion |
| 23:08.18 | foxlit | No, that's how the current epic/rare marking philosophy works. |
| 23:08.36 | Cide | epic simply tells you he has played at 80 for more than 2 days |
| 23:08.43 | Cide | that's tons of information right there |
| 23:09.02 | foxlit | It won't be fixed by making dungeons drop rares. |
| 23:09.15 | Cide | early on it will |
| 23:09.16 | Xyphoid | if badge gear is blue too it will |
| 23:09.27 | Cide | until they release the equivalent of ICC5 it will |
| 23:09.30 | ZorbaGama | or limited to s amall number of slots |
| 23:09.33 | ZorbaGama | *to a small |
| 23:09.46 | foxlit | If you'll base any sort of decision based on gear quality, you'll just send people marching to the first raid instance on day 2. |
| 23:09.50 | Cide | who knows, maybe ICC5 will drop epics |
| 23:10.11 | Cide | foxlit, if you'll base any sort of decision based on gear quality, you won't upgrade from tier 1 raid to tier 4 dungeon in the first place |
| 23:10.16 | Cide | and in that case you're a fucking idiot |
| 23:10.30 | Xyphoid | well, isn't sending people to the raid instance to get the best gear the idea in the first place |
| 23:10.53 | foxlit | Hey, I conceived dungeon tier 4 as being the ICC5-equivalent loot, while raid tier 1 is naxx. |
| 23:11.07 | Cide | anyway |
| 23:11.17 | Cide | they could still make the equivalent of ICC5 drop epics |
| 23:11.34 | Cide | but holding off on that as long as possible is good imo |
| 23:11.44 | foxlit | Okay. They've done that in wrath, yeah? |
| 23:11.52 | foxlit | Heroics up until ToC are mostly rare. |
| 23:11.53 | Cide | the very first dungeons dropped epics |
| 23:12.04 | Cide | ToC didn't need to drop epics at all |
| 23:12.05 | ZorbaGama | honestly, except *very* early on, nobody ran heroics for the rares |
| 23:12.10 | ZorbaGama | they ran heroics for the epics that dropped at the end |
| 23:12.27 | Xyphoid | yeah, toc5 dropping epics is where things went odd |
| 23:12.34 | foxlit | ToC had better gear than naxx, though. |
| 23:12.58 | foxlit | You could argue that it didn't need better gear than naxx, but it'd be silly to use a lower item quality for higher stats items. |
| 23:13.12 | Cide | nah |
| 23:13.13 | Xyphoid | there have always been lower-level epics |
| 23:13.16 | Cide | ToC had equivalent loot to naxx |
| 23:13.16 | ZorbaGama | foxlit, I don't necessarily see that |
| 23:13.26 | Cide | sapphiron drops ilevel 200 epics on 10-man |
| 23:13.30 | Cide | 213 on 25 |
| 23:13.53 | NightHawkTheSane | I think the question is are we saying that the color of an item is directly related to the quality of its stats? |
| 23:14.10 | foxlit | and toc heroic drops are 219 |
| 23:14.14 | NightHawkTheSane | that is green < blue < purlple, always? |
| 23:14.17 | Cide | oh yeah, true |
| 23:14.23 | ZorbaGama | it makes sense to me for the color of an item to relate to the relative quality of high-end gear at the time when it was the "leading edge" |
| 23:14.36 | ZorbaGama | it's not like BC purples all turned green when Wrath came out |
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| 23:14.48 | Cide | yep |
| 23:14.52 | Cide | in like 1 level |
| 23:15.02 | ZorbaGama | they just need for "leading edge" to refer to "current raid tier", not "current expansion", and it all makes sense. |
| 23:15.16 | NightHawkTheSane | frankly, i'd be okay with a simple division of epic->raid gear, blue->instance gear, green->quest/drop gear |
| 23:15.39 | Cide | yep |
| 23:15.41 | ZorbaGama | I like blue->instance/rewards-for-long-questlines-or-group-quests |
| 23:15.44 | ZorbaGama | but besides that, agreed |
| 23:15.48 | Cide | you wouldn't see many people "upgrading to blues" |
| 23:15.59 | Cide | because the people with epics would be raiders and there aren't a lot of raiders who quit raiding |
| 23:16.00 | Xyphoid | and clearly you can have rare exceptions |
| 23:16.09 | ZorbaGama | xyphoid, quel'delar |
| 23:16.13 | Cide | on a regular basis |
| 23:16.58 | NightHawkTheSane | eh, i'd even go so far as to say Quel'Delar would be blue, but meh. |
| 23:17.08 | Cide | quel'serrar~~~ |
| 23:17.19 | NightHawkTheSane | quel'serrar would be purple, as it required raiding :P |
| 23:17.21 | ZorbaGama | quel'whatever |
| 23:17.28 | Xyphoid | naw, nothing wrong with rare drop from final 5-mans being epic |
| 23:17.30 | foxlit | Quel'Stuff needs to stop being bought on the AH |
| 23:17.58 | NightHawkTheSane | Xyphoid: nothing's WRONG with it, per se, but for a sense of clarity as to what the gear reprsents, it seems odd. |
| 23:18.09 | Xyphoid | i didn't mind epics from heroics either, as they were very limited slots |
| 23:18.23 | foxlit | It's head-and-shoulders above everything at current heroic dungeon level, NightHawkTheSane :) |
| 23:18.24 | Xyphoid | i like the model of running heroics trying to get specific item X |
| 23:18.34 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: what is? |
| 23:18.38 | foxlit | Quel'Delar |
| 23:18.54 | ZorbaGama | xyphoid, it could always be ilvl187 blues from the first bosses, ilvl200 from the final boss |
| 23:18.56 | Xyphoid | it's way better than running heroics until you have 60 badges to buy specific item X in my view |
| 23:19.01 | foxlit | It's a 251 item in an environment that otherwise rewards 232 loot. |
| 23:19.24 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: oh, yeah, but in the hypothetical model i mentioned, i'd be okay with it being blue, because it only requires 5-man instances to acquire |
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| 23:19.57 | foxlit | Maybe they should change rarities in the patch |
| 23:20.04 | foxlit | Yesterday's epics ==> Tomorrow's rares. |
| 23:20.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Xyphoid: and yeah, there's nothing wrong with bumping the ilvl of end-boss drops either |
| 23:20.41 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: that would be interseting actually. If only "current tier" gear was purple, and everything prior was changed to blue |
| 23:20.43 | theorbtwo | Personally, I'd get rid of the whole colored items, and just call them higher ilvl. |
| 23:20.53 | Cide- | too hard to browse through in backpacks etc |
| 23:20.58 | theorbtwo | That, or make the color relative to your current level. |
| 23:20.59 | NightHawkTheSane | theorbtwo: there's some usability benefits to the coors, though |
| 23:21.02 | NightHawkTheSane | colors* |
| 23:21.10 | ZorbaGama | I personally feel like WoW needs one or two extra tiers of quality, but unfortunately that's hard to do now |
| 23:21.23 | Cide- | that's easy |
| 23:21.26 | Cide- | we already have legendary |
| 23:21.36 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaGama: I don't know. I think the problem is the current quality tiers got back-loaded |
| 23:21.37 | ZorbaGama | they're trying to save legendary for things that are actually legendary |
| 23:21.42 | theorbtwo | Stuff of the ilvl you are expected to have at your character level are white, above it get nice colors, below it get greyish. |
| 23:21.45 | NightHawkTheSane | green is "trash", but why does it have to be? |
| 23:21.50 | foxlit | Legendary for things that are actually meh. |
| 23:21.53 | ZorbaGama | nighthawk, well, green is leveling gear |
| 23:21.56 | ZorbaGama | I'm okay with that |
| 23:22.07 | foxlit | BC's model of just dropping them is silly. |
| 23:22.09 | ZorbaGama | foxlit, neither of the wrath legendaries are at all meh :P |
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| 23:22.32 | Cide| | I think that was so bad the server killed my irc client |
| 23:22.35 | foxlit | WOTLK's model of making you quest for them results in like three players per guild getting a particular item. |
| 23:22.37 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaGama: true, maybe bad example. :P |
| 23:22.53 | theorbtwo | questing++ |
| 23:22.56 | foxlit | With their own performance not really being a factor. |
| 23:23.23 | foxlit | [Also, frostmourne-opened loot? Boo.] |
| 23:23.35 | foxlit | s/frost/shadow/ |
| 23:23.47 | Xyphoid | i thought making those boe was a great idea |
| 23:24.00 | Xyphoid | it's like hey, guilds, here's something for you to decide how to handy |
| 23:24.02 | Xyphoid | handle |
| 23:24.09 | Xyphoid | giving guilds choices like that is good |
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| 23:24.55 | foxlit | What's actually BoE, Xyph? |
| 23:25.12 | Xyphoid | the bonus stuff you get from shadowmourne right? |
| 23:25.55 | foxlit | No. |
| 23:25.59 | foxlit | It's BoP every step of the way. |
| 23:26.01 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 23:26.09 | Thunder_Child | the stuff in the chest is BoE |
| 23:26.19 | Thunder_Child | after you kill LK with shadowmorune |
| 23:26.29 | foxlit | http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=51319 ? |
| 23:26.57 | Xyphoid | http://www.wowhead.com/item=52201/muradins-favor#comments is bind when used |
| 23:27.00 | foxlit | The chest itself is BoP, and, according to wowhead, only lootable by the wielder of shadowmourne. |
| 23:27.33 | foxlit | Ah, so the final rewards are. |
| 23:27.58 | Xyphoid | sylvanus's music box was going for 80k |
| 23:28.09 | NightHawkTheSane | someone was /selling/ that stuff? |
| 23:28.12 | NightHawkTheSane | yeesh |
| 23:28.20 | Thunder_Child | i did say in the chest |
| 23:28.48 | foxlit | They aren't in the chest, though. |
| 23:28.58 | Thunder_Child | thats the general idea |
| 23:29.11 | Thunder_Child | you just have to have an npc open it |
| 23:30.06 | foxlit | The sealed chest is bop, the unsealed chest is bop, loot in the unsealed chest is bop, but when you finally return that loot to the respective NPCs, they give you a BoU item. |
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| 23:30.42 | theorbtwo | Bind on U? |
| 23:30.47 | foxlit | se |
| 23:30.49 | NightHawkTheSane | on use |
| 23:31.00 | theorbtwo | Ah. |
| 23:31.05 | NightHawkTheSane | the items you get aren't equiment, they're just misc items with use effects |
| 23:31.56 | Xyphoid | http://www.wowhead.com/items?filter=cr=4;crs=1;crv=0;gb=0 not a common flag |
| 23:32.27 | foxlit | Mounts used to be that. |
| 23:32.51 | Kraps | http://replay.waybackmachine.org/20070613230355/http://www.worldofraids.com/ |
| 23:35.25 | foxlit | "By reducing the possible gear queries by over 30%, at least 30% more players will be invited to pug raids." |
| 23:35.46 | Kraps | http://www.wowace.com/announcements/blizzard-to-start-throttling-inspect-requests/ |
| 23:35.51 | foxlit | Excuse me while I laugh. |
| 23:36.16 | foxlit | Interesting communication channel for the announcement, though. |
| 23:36.27 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33432 |
| 23:36.50 | foxlit | As opposed to the usual forum sticky in UI&M. |
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| 23:39.46 | Kraps | where does wowleaks get their stuff? |
| 23:45.44 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/25578348839/blizz-to-handicap-gearscore/ oof burn |
| 23:46.38 | Shadowed | hahahaha |
| 23:46.40 | Shadowed | thats amazing logic |
| 23:47.40 | Xyphoid | 'abuse of players through gear inspection' |
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| 23:52.52 | Antiarc | Steam is absolutely blowing my socks off lately. |
| 23:53.08 | Corrodias | what's it up to now? |
| 23:53.16 | Antiarc | They're selling everything for massive discounts |
| 23:53.24 | NightHawkTheSane | http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2010/06/24/slow-and-steady-kitten-rides-tortoise |
| 23:53.24 | ZorbaGama | I just spent $140 on them |
| 23:53.27 | Antiarc | http://store.steampowered.com/sub/2546/ |
| 23:53.29 | foxlit | Anything good? |
| 23:53.37 | Antiarc | http://store.steampowered.com/sub/4583/ |
| 23:53.37 | ZorbaGama | I've also discovered that steam is very, very bad at downloading many games simultaneously. |
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| 23:54.18 | Antiarc | Overlord pack for $4.50 |
| 23:54.21 | Antiarc | Trine for $4.00 |
| 23:54.28 | Corrodias | holy crap @ the eidos pack |
| 23:54.30 | Antiarc | Bioshock 2 for $15 |
| 23:54.40 | Thunder_Child | whats with all the sales? |
| 23:55.09 | Antiarc | I dunno |
| 23:55.18 | ZorbaGama | it's Steam. They have sales all the time. |
| 23:55.35 | Antiarc | But I'm pretty sure that Gabe is going to take a bath in money tonight, warmed by burned money, while he smokes rolled up money and eats money sandwiches. |
| 23:55.39 | Cide | [[Today during lunch was pretty boring. Suddenly one of my friends, who is usually pretty clever, gives me this weird look and asks, "If intelligent means smart, then does telligent mean dumb?" Someone else said thats what the word unintelligent is for. She comes back with, "But that's like a double negative, right?" MLIA.]] |
| 23:55.45 | Cide | that's pretty sweet logic right there |
| 23:55.53 | ZorbaGama | http://steamcommunity.com/id/ZorbaTHut/games?tab=all seriously, most of these are thanks to Steam sales. |
| 23:56.05 | Antiarc | I buy all my games on steamsales, yeah |
| 23:56.14 | foxlit | aiwar any good? |
| 23:56.16 | WobWork | good irc client for windows? |
| 23:56.24 | Thunder_Child | ummmm.....civ V is out? |
| 23:56.25 | ZorbaGama | foxlit, quite interesting, yeah. |
| 23:56.26 | Corrodias | AI war is apparently a very good game, within its genre |
| 23:56.27 | Antiarc | I use pidgin, it's not "good", but it's sufficient |
| 23:56.30 | ZorbaGama | it's *long*, but interesting. |
| 23:56.32 | ZorbaGama | thunder, pre-order. |
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| 23:56.37 | Thunder_Child | ZorbaGama: ah |
| 23:57.00 | WobWork | Antiarc: normally so do I, but was wondering if there were other strong opinions available =) |
| 23:57.16 | Dagmar | WobWork: I suppose you could just wait for Fisker |
| 23:57.18 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: i feel pretty strongly that pidgin is sufficiant. :P |
| 23:57.32 | NightHawkTheSane | maybe also sufficient. |
| 23:57.41 | WobWork | Who here uses Pidgin? |
| 23:58.05 | Kraps | WobWork: chatzilla |
| 23:58.21 | Thunder_Child | i use quassel |
| 23:59.31 | WobWork | hm |
| 23:59.39 | WobWork | that uses a central server does it? |
