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| 00:09.15 | Mikk | yeah it'll return a 5 dimensional representation of 2 "void"s, each spinning its own direction |
| 00:09.40 | Mikk | how's that for fuzzy computing you lowtech 80s slackers! |
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| 00:10.31 | Mikk | google just found me "[PDF] Amoeba-Based Fuzzy Computing for Uncertain Knowledge Processing" |
| 00:10.39 | Mikk | ok not even gonna click that. just gonna go to bed. |
| 00:12.38 | Kraps | http://www.zdnet.com.au/internet-kill-switch-proposed-for-us-339303838.htm |
| 00:13.14 | Dagmar | Kraps: HAH! It'll never work. |
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| 00:16.10 | AbsolutRayne | Is there any way to give Borders to the Bars on ClassTimer, or no? |
| 00:17.14 | Kraps | "If you really want to be efficient, just wait until 5.0 because you'll replace that Deathwing gear then. You could also wait until 2018 to buy a new car, because they'll probably be more awesome then too. :) " |
| 00:17.26 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:18.48 | AbsolutRayne | Also, does anyone have the Mouseover Script to Identify a specific frame? :) |
| 00:20.25 | WobWork | Kraps: well, clearly the Internet is an American commodity |
| 00:20.29 | WobWork | that must be controlled! |
| 00:21.17 | Kraps | maybe we'll use the iranian model |
| 00:21.22 | WobWork | wikileaks is probably one of those sites they want killed off =P |
| 00:21.50 | WobWork | I offer a cheaper killswitch |
| 00:21.56 | WobWork | a megatonne EMP bomb |
| 00:22.42 | Kraps | WobWork: here are tons of such sites on the web, |
| 00:25.52 | Dagmar | Such plans should be required to be submitted through a system that does email verification. |
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| 00:26.03 | Dagmar | That would stop people who can't even find their own email from suggesting such things. |
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| 00:31.46 | WobWork | AbsolutRayne: WheresMyCow |
| 00:32.20 | AbsolutRayne | WobWork: Hrm? |
| 00:32.38 | WobWork | (10:18:48 AM) AbsolutRayne: Also, does anyone have the Mouseover Script to Identify a specific frame? |
| 00:33.02 | AbsolutRayne | Oh is that an Addon name? |
| 00:35.47 | Thunder_Child | that or WobWork really wants to know where is cow is |
| 00:35.57 | Thunder_Child | s/is/his/ |
| 00:37.33 | WobWork | Is That My Cow |
| 00:37.34 | AbsolutRayne | Well I didnt take it. |
| 00:37.38 | WobWork | No, That Is A Thunder_Child |
| 00:37.57 | WobWork | It Goes "Wheee". That Is Not My Cow |
| 00:46.11 | Dagmar | Lord knows the Slashdot crowd could use some schooling on the subject |
| 00:48.34 | WobWork | AbsolutRayne: http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7186-WheresMyCow.html |
| 00:48.55 | AbsolutRayne | Thank ya :) |
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| 01:34.40 | KarlKFI | mmm razer SC2 branded peripherals |
| 01:34.42 | KarlKFI | yummy |
| 01:35.12 | KarlKFI | anyone else think the mouse should deploy like a seige tank? |
| 01:43.50 | kd3 | wtfs at this spam that got through his filters... it's not even composed properly |
| 01:44.45 | kd3 | 8%-snip-.com/randomAssedAlphanumericString/ |
| 01:45.53 | kd3 | http://wowi.pastey.net/137792 |
| 01:48.10 | Thunder_Child | SOUP CHEESE! |
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| 01:49.49 | Kraps | Toy Story 3 gets 100% positive reviews |
| 01:51.36 | KarlKFI | it's Toy Story... who DOESN"T like that |
| 01:52.24 | WobWork | it's like Shrek |
| 01:52.37 | Kraps | WobWork: lolwut |
| 01:52.45 | KarlKFI | except shrek 3 sucked |
| 01:52.47 | WobWork | who doesn't like Shrek? |
| 01:52.57 | WobWork | Oh, I never saw 3... I don't hink |
| 01:53.00 | Kraps | http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/shrek_goes_fourth/ |
| 01:53.01 | WobWork | they all blur together |
| 01:53.18 | Kraps | http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/shrek_the_third/ |
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| 01:53.32 | KarlKFI | ^^ |
| 01:53.46 | KarlKFI | it was so bad Shrek didn't evenwant his face on it |
| 01:54.20 | WobWork | from the looks of it |
| 01:54.33 | WobWork | most of the complaints about the fourth one, are only really valid if you're doing a Shrekathon |
| 01:54.50 | KarlKFI | How to Train Your Dragon got 98%... that was a great movie |
| 01:54.56 | WobWork | and also, the main audience of the movie... are going to love it, despite the rehashing =P |
| 01:55.20 | Kraps | otoh, check out pixar http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/toy_story_3/news/1888964/total_recall_the_pixar_story |
| 01:55.33 | WobWork | then again, the main audience aren't known for their cricital analysis of movies |
| 01:57.19 | KarlKFI | tho rotten tomatoes doesn't always have the best ratings... Racing Dreams got 100% too |
| 01:57.28 | Jerub | pixar is a good example of "what happens if every movie wins" movie studio |
| 01:57.36 | Jerub | instead of losing money on 3 out of 4 movies |
| 01:58.04 | KarlKFI | pro tip: it's called integrity and quality |
| 01:58.16 | WobWork | I'm impressed that Toy Story got 3 100%'s though |
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| 01:58.29 | Kraps | KarlKFI: they just make an aggregate of reviewers |
| 01:58.50 | KarlKFI | otoh the bigger studios are giving money to lots of small time films. |
| 01:59.05 | KarlKFI | they're bound to have more flops |
| 01:59.17 | KarlKFI | but they do perpetuate themselves |
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| 02:12.02 | cog|away | Fisker: |
| 02:12.07 | cog|away | FISKER! |
| 02:12.26 | cog|away | do you like Richard Cheese? [Yn]: |
| 02:18.36 | Kraps | i think The Incredibles is my favorite pixar film |
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| 02:38.32 | Kraps | pixar's first short http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNZtl5SZvbM&feature=player_embedded#! |
| 02:38.43 | Kraps | beware of ugly baby |
| 02:38.47 | cog|away | we got the pixar shorts bluray |
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| 02:50.19 | Kraps | i approve of this website http://www.legcross.com/2008/08/megyn-kelly.html |
| 02:50.32 | Shirik | so |
| 02:50.34 | Shirik | wtf is VEVO |
| 02:50.36 | Shirik | and why does it suck |
| 02:51.52 | Kraps | its not that bad |
| 02:51.54 | Kraps | >.> |
| 02:54.25 | Dagmar | Look right there in their list of currently watched videos |
| 02:54.36 | Dagmar | Do I see a ginger? Yes, I do... |
| 02:54.55 | Dagmar | Apparently Rick Astley is popular enough there to rate mention on their top page |
| 02:55.10 | Dagmar | That answer your question, Shirik? |
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| 03:03.15 | Shirik | just the bandwidth always seems to be so much worse |
| 03:05.24 | Shirik | that being said |
| 03:05.28 | Shirik | toby keith is fucking awesome http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNDcAWNscg8 |
| 03:09.05 | Kraps | nice Shirik |
| 03:11.49 | Torhal | People with two first names scare me. |
| 03:12.10 | Torhal | There's Toby Keith. Testament has Chuck Billy... |
| 03:13.19 | Kraps | how long was the wrath beta? |
| 03:16.33 | Thunder_Child | from begining to end |
| 03:19.00 | Thunder_Child | sports fanatics are such idiots |
| 03:41.15 | cogwheel | Thunder_Child: i know, right? |
| 03:41.35 | cogwheel | if it weren't so "normal" they'd be called nerds. |
| 03:42.25 | Thunder_Child | cogwheel: most nerds dont yell at the TV loudly enough to be heard a block away |
| 03:42.35 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: lol |
| 03:42.38 | cogwheel | of course not. that's what their computers are for |
| 03:42.50 | Kraps | not even on CoD? |
| 03:42.54 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 03:43.00 | cogwheel | yeah and xboxes |
| 03:43.03 | Thunder_Child | and staged youtube vids do not count |
| 03:45.55 | Kraps | 3 pointers are awesome though |
| 03:54.15 | Kraps | http://img2.pict.com/b6/51/5b/2056427/0/1251568310626.jpg |
| 03:55.20 | bryno | Kraps: lol |
| 03:55.23 | Thunder_Child | oh good, the games over and people will SHUT TEH FUCK UP |
| 03:55.47 | Dagmar | Are they *all* over? |
| 03:55.56 | Kraps | cogwheel: its time for the nerds to get back at the jocks |
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| 03:55.59 | Thunder_Child | thats was the 7th game of the finals i think |
| 03:56.26 | Thunder_Child | i would like to point out that if we got rid of the lakers the entire state of CA out be out of debt |
| 03:56.35 | Kraps | s/i think/// |
| 03:56.36 | Thunder_Child | mutters |
| 03:57.28 | Kraps | offers Thunder_Child a chillaxative |
| 03:58.00 | Dagmar | Thunder_Child: What makes you think that? |
| 03:58.20 | Thunder_Child | Dagmar: they get paid a lot |
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| 03:58.32 | Thunder_Child | and the upkeep is also rather large |
| 04:00.27 | Cide | how do I get photoshop to do rounded corners that don't suck? |
| 04:00.52 | Cide | do I have to not use feather while selecting? |
| 04:01.46 | Cide | nvm, looks like I can fix it in Refine Edges |
| 04:07.37 | Kraps | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25399951507&sid=1 |
| 04:09.48 | eidolarr | is table.sort a C function |
| 04:12.59 | Cide | yes |
| 04:13.22 | Cide | simple test that usually tells whether or not it is |
| 04:13.29 | eidolarr | so it would probably be better to call that than to implement any special structure like a heap, except for huge data sets |
| 04:13.31 | Kraps | THE REDRIDGE BRIDGE IS GETTING COMPLETED http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25482058340&pageNo=1&sid=1#14 |
| 04:13.36 | Cide | --> string.dump(table.sort) |
| 04:13.36 | batbot | Cide: @ [string "return string.dump(table.sort)"]:1: unable to dump given function |
| 04:13.41 | Cide | that means likely C |
| 04:14.07 | Cide | eidolarr, likely |
| 04:14.09 | Dagmar | Kraps: LAME RP. Everyone knows tears don't go into a _quarry_... They go into Tear Pools. |
| 04:14.45 | eidolarr | Cide: what version of Lua is that bot running? i don't seem to have string.dump |
| 04:15.02 | Cide | --> _VERSION |
| 04:15.02 | batbot | Cide: > Lua 5.1 |
| 04:15.20 | Dagmar | Probably clipped out to prevent naughtiness |
| 04:15.20 | Cide | it's in wow too |
| 04:15.23 | eidolarr | hmm |
| 04:16.38 | eidolarr | i got it now, cool |
| 04:18.31 | Cide | whereas if you get something like this... |
| 04:18.40 | Cide | --> string.dump(function() return "hi"; end) |
| 04:18.40 | batbot | bb000000000return string.dump(function() return "hi"; end)0 |
| 04:18.41 | batbot | 000000000 |
| 04:18.41 | batbot | 00 |
| 04:18.41 | batbot | 000 |
| 04:18.47 | Cide | it means likely lua |
| 04:19.00 | Cide | I don't know if the result is absolute or not, hence "likely" |
| 04:19.09 | Cide | Iriel would know I'm sure |
| 04:20.46 | Cide | or shirik or jnwhiteh or cogwheel maybe |
| 04:20.57 | Cide | or batrick |
| 04:22.44 | Iriel | You can't dump things with upvalues, or C functions |
| 04:22.55 | Iriel | actually, I think 5.1 does upvalues |
| 04:23.22 | Cide | easy to test |
| 04:23.49 | Cide | --> local foo = "hi"; return string.dump(function() return foo; end) |
| 04:23.49 | batbot | bb0A0000000local foo = "hi"; return string.dump(function() return foo; end)0 |
| 04:23.49 | batbot | 000 |
| 04:23.49 | batbot | 0000000000000 |
| 04:23.49 | batbot | 000 |
| 04:24.14 | Cide | seems to work in 5.1 at least |
| 04:25.48 | Thunder_Child | wow, wolfram alpha has some serious fail moments |
| 04:26.51 | Shirik | you can dump them |
| 04:26.54 | Shirik | but it doesn't get you anywhere |
| 04:26.59 | Shirik | you can't load a function with upvalues |
| 04:27.00 | Dagmar | Thunder_Child: Canned responses, man. It's not really a search engine. |
| 04:27.32 | Cide | shirik: you clearly didn't read the conversation :P |
| 04:27.36 | Shirik | I guess not |
| 04:27.42 | Cide | I was asking if it was a bulletproof test for if a function is defined in C or not |
| 04:27.46 | Shirik | it is |
| 04:27.50 | Cide | cool |
| 04:27.52 | Cide | thanks |
| 04:27.57 | Shirik | of course, the real test is in the debug library |
| 04:28.01 | Shirik | but string.dump works too |
| 04:28.06 | Cide | yeah, not available in wow |
| 04:28.25 | Iriel | Note that hook secured functions look like C |
| 04:28.31 | Iriel | because the hook wrapper is in C |
| 04:31.21 | cogwheel | and the opposite for insecurely hooked lua functions i s'pose |
| 04:32.13 | cogwheel | s/lua/c/ |
| 04:32.37 | Cide | Iriel, that's cool, never thought of that |
| 04:34.53 | Shirik | the real question is |
| 04:34.58 | Shirik | why do you need to know if a function is in Lua or C? |
| 04:39.17 | Cide | <eidolarr> is table.sort a C function |
| 04:39.18 | Cide | <eidolarr> so it would probably be better to call that than to implement any special structure like a heap, except for huge data sets |
| 04:39.42 | Cide | (I personally don't) |
| 04:43.17 | Iriel | I used a heap for a timer class |
| 04:43.23 | Iriel | in lua |
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| 04:56.00 | kd3 | oh, gah. what's wrong with me |
| 04:56.26 | kd3 | my fingers are intentionally typing teh instead of the |
| 04:56.37 | kd3 | cursed muscle memory, do what I want you to, not what I programmed you to |
| 04:56.50 | Seerah | I've been doing that a lot lately, myself |
| 04:56.54 | Seerah | (teh) |
| 04:56.58 | Thunder_Child | WHY DID YOU PROGRAM YOUR FINGERS TO TYPE TEH? |
| 04:57.02 | Thunder_Child | err..sorry caps |
| 04:57.58 | kd3 | dunno |
| 05:03.37 | Cide | he's been active on the wow forums |
| 05:03.37 | Cide | duh |
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| 05:24.21 | Kraps | huh |
| 05:24.38 | Kraps | just finished Leon |
| 05:26.16 | Cide | the movie? |
| 05:26.38 | Kraps | yeah |
| 05:26.41 | Cide | great movie |
| 05:26.58 | Cide | natalie portman acted awesomely |
| 05:28.12 | Kraps | "Always at the back of my mind was the troubled thought that there was something wrong about placing a 12-year-old character in the middle of this action." |
| 05:28.33 | Kraps | man, ebert needs to get the stick out of his ass |
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| 05:42.06 | Kraps | http://www.gametrailers.com/video/big-changes-wow-cataclysm/101730?type=flv |
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| 05:48.40 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* songs should always say if they are remakes and you did the original |
| 05:49.26 | Thunder_Child | s/you/who/ |
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| 07:13.22 | Cairenn | rofl @ today's xkcd |
| 07:15.20 | krka | i didnt get it :( |
| 07:16.34 | NightHawkTheSane | there's not a whole lot to "Get" |
| 07:17.11 | NightHawkTheSane | the only big thing is that "interdisciplenary" courses are often a bit fluffy and.. odd.. |
| 07:18.00 | theorbtwo | It's also a reference to the film & book Contact, by Carl Sagan. |
| 07:18.15 | theorbtwo | (The book is, naturally, much better then the film, but they both have that bit in them.) |
| 07:18.21 | Thunder_Child | some are useful, like psych and game programing |
| 07:18.23 | NightHawkTheSane | *nod* |
| 07:18.32 | NightHawkTheSane | (to both of you) |
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| 08:51.25 | awweaver | LEt's Do the Can Can! |
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| 08:55.16 | olafski | I can't :( |
| 08:57.55 | Torhal | First version. |
| 08:57.58 | Torhal | cackles. |
| 09:17.51 | Mikk | grabs a firm hold of his own nose |
| 09:18.03 | Mikk | "Leeet's twist again... liiike we did llllast summer!" |
| 09:21.55 | olafski | giggles at torhal |
| 09:25.21 | Mikk | scratches his head |
| 09:25.51 | Mikk | Why is youtube telling me that I can't access a video of ritchie valens performing La Bamba because it's copyrighted? |
| 09:25.58 | Mikk | He died in 1959 |
| 09:26.01 | Mikk | That's 51 years ago |
| 09:27.11 | Arrowmaster | copyrights dont expire |
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| 09:28.08 | LurbyJo | Hey, guys! Anyone around this late I could ask a quick question? |
| 09:28.54 | Cairenn | Ask |
| 09:28.59 | Dashkal | It's something like live + 100 and counting (they just extend it every time it comes up) |
| 09:29.26 | krka | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:29.28 | krka | 95 years after publication date i think |
| 09:29.37 | krka | http://www.copyright.cornell.edu/resources/publicdomain.cfm |
| 09:29.57 | krka | it's insane |
| 09:30.07 | LurbyJo | I'm using a mod that moves the default action bars and I've edited the lua to move the MultiBarLeft and MultBarRight under the normal bars. However, when I use any vehicle or enter an instance the two bars disappear and I can't figure out why. :S Anyone familiar with that at all? |
| 09:30.22 | Arrowmaster | lua> 1928+95 |
| 09:30.23 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 2023 |
| 09:30.42 | Arrowmaster | ok the copyright law will change before 2023 |
| 09:30.49 | Mikk | Well see that's only in stupidland |
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| 09:31.06 | Mikk | Where the record industry has two arms and a leg up the lawmaker's asses |
| 09:31.22 | Arrowmaster | i will bet anybody a million dollars that the US copyright law gets extended again before 2023 |
| 09:31.32 | Arrowmaster | come on take the bet |
| 09:32.37 | Mikk | aha. my info is outdated |
| 09:33.08 | Arrowmaster | you know what special event is in 2023 right? |
| 09:33.19 | olafski | 11 years after the end of the world? |
| 09:33.31 | Arrowmaster | mickey mouse copyright expiration |
| 09:33.48 | olafski | how very special ;) |
| 09:33.55 | lehigreck | http://www.koreus.com/video/the-online-gamer.html |
| 09:33.57 | olafski | mickey mouse porn in 2023 then! |
| 09:34.08 | Mikk | actually we're allowed to do that here just fine |
| 09:34.23 | Mikk | was life+50 until 95 |
| 09:34.27 | Mikk | now it's life+70 |
| 09:34.29 | Mikk | grmbl |
| 09:34.49 | Mikk | anyway yeah EU = life+70 now as a rule |
| 09:35.18 | LurbyJo | Would it help if I pastebinned the bit where I moved the bars? |
| 09:36.37 | olafski | maybe +) |
| 09:36.50 | Dashkal | Wouldn't they vanish when the normal bars vanish when entering a vehicle? |
| 09:36.58 | Dashkal | Since you're anchoring to them? |
| 09:37.52 | LurbyJo | Yes, but they don't come back and they also vanish when I enter an instance. |
| 09:38.01 | LurbyJo | It takes a ReloadUI(); to get them back again. |
| 09:38.02 | LurbyJo | http://pastebin.com/GCwDNLLw |
| 09:40.46 | LurbyJo | Maybe there's a Show/Hide I should have put in there or something. |
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| 09:55.57 | Fisker | olafski |
| 09:56.01 | Fisker | you will be destroyed |
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| 09:59.51 | olafski | most likely |
| 09:59.55 | olafski | I'm graduating in 2 hours |
| 10:00.40 | Cairenn | congrats! |
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| 10:02.07 | olafski | still have to defend my thesis first |
| 10:02.13 | olafski | I haven't been more nervous in my life :P |
| 10:04.24 | foxlit | lobs some easy questions at olafski |
| 10:04.35 | foxlit | You wouldn't perchance have a list of questions you /can/ answer? :) |
| 10:05.28 | olafski | I have to give a presentation first |
| 10:05.37 | olafski | tried to think of all the questions and I already answered them in that :( |
| 10:05.46 | olafski | but I'm damn nervous, I tend to speak quickly and skip things when I am suhc |
| 10:05.47 | olafski | such* |
| 10:06.07 | olafski | presentation should take 30 minutes, but I timed it in powerpoint and it takes 20.. I imagine when I stand in front of a crowd it'll be 15 ;) |
| 10:08.26 | olafski | oh well, at 15:30 it will be all over (12:08 now) and I will get to celebrate I hope =) |
| 10:09.51 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/708634967 |
| 10:10.01 | Fisker | you're gonna f them in the a olafski |
| 10:10.19 | olafski | most of them are male, so preferrably not fisker |
| 10:10.39 | Fisker | figuratively speaking of course |
| 10:10.46 | olafski | that might be possible |
| 10:11.50 | olafski | wouldn't be a very nice thing to do in front of my parents |
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| 10:22.25 | Adys | http://media.lelombrik.net/32001-32500/88a64d649d3bc9b84e2865bc57dc89fa3d95aaf9.png |
| 10:23.50 | olafski | asswhole! |
| 10:25.29 | zenzio | lol |
| 10:28.44 | olafski | http://www.boingboing.net/vuvuzelda.jpg :D |
| 10:29.03 | zenzio | hehe |
| 10:29.09 | olafski | BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ |
| 10:32.53 | Elkano | olafski: http://i.imgur.com/m9rLj.gif |
| 10:33.01 | olafski | seen it! |
| 10:33.03 | olafski | nice though :P |
| 10:39.48 | Fisker | hey Elkano |
| 10:40.10 | Elkano | yeah, that's what she said... |
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| 10:47.29 | Fisker | i'm sick Elkano |
| 10:48.26 | mikma | lolo |
| 10:48.34 | mikma | can has hello kitty bandage |
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| 10:52.42 | foxlit | Sight. |
| 10:52.46 | foxlit | Sigh. |
| 10:53.27 | foxlit | WoW realms should really do some spot checking on whether the clients are actually doing physics as they should. |
| 10:54.01 | zenzio | probably |
| 10:54.02 | foxlit | Goldseller urls spelled with dwarves sitting in mid-air are weird. |
| 10:54.08 | zenzio | indeed |
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| 10:57.24 | Warloco | are there any addons that check for the distance between dead raiders and alive druids with combat rezzes available (ora 3), and give you combat rez recommendations based on that? |
| 10:58.05 | Fisker | foxlit that's what you get for complaining about corpse spam |
| 10:58.07 | Fisker | thanks a lot |
| 10:58.08 | Fisker | jerk. |
| 11:02.06 | Fisker | grrr |
| 11:02.09 | Fisker | they fucked up chrome |
| 11:02.17 | mikma | why |
| 11:02.45 | Fisker | tabs open at the end now |
| 11:02.49 | Fisker | new tabs that is |
| 11:02.53 | Warloco | good |
| 11:02.54 | Warloco | :p |
| 11:02.56 | mikma | hmm |
| 11:03.02 | Fisker | no Warloco |
| 11:03.04 | mikma | i'm not sure is that good or a bad change |
| 11:03.06 | Fisker | very fucking annoying |
| 11:03.15 | Warloco | im pretty sure you can set it back to what it was |
| 11:03.20 | Warloco | but thats how I like it >_> |
| 11:03.28 | Warloco | then again, i dont use chrome, I use opera |
| 11:03.36 | Fisker | oh yeah should check that |
| 11:03.57 | Warloco | which does it like chrome does now by default, but can also change that setting to different behaviour |
| 11:04.19 | Fisker | can't find an option for it ;_; |
| 11:04.41 | Fisker | i find it very annoying having to tab through 10 tabs when i opened a thread in a new tab |
| 11:04.58 | Warloco | just go to the last one |
| 11:05.04 | Warloco | dont need to go through 10 to get there |
| 11:06.17 | Fisker | there are people who use the keyboard rather than the mouse |
| 11:06.50 | Warloco | and theres no keyboard shortcut to go to the newest tab? |
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| 11:07.40 | Fisker | if there is then that only works with the newest tab |
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| 11:10.44 | Warloco | Ctrl+1 through 9 switches to a particular open tab position. |
| 11:10.45 | Warloco | maybe? |
| 11:11.01 | Warloco | I dunno though, I usually have a million tabs open |
| 11:13.25 | Warloco | by the silence that my 'does this addon exist' question before, I take it such an addon doesnt exist? :( |
| 11:17.04 | zenzio | I wouldn't go that far |
| 11:17.12 | zenzio | just that no-one who's awake in here now has heard of oen |
| 11:20.05 | eidolarr | i think that is one of those situations where writing an addon would be tremendously harder than just figuring it out on the spot |
| 11:23.47 | foxlit | "209 Talon King Ikiss kills (Sethekk Halls). " << Dedication right there. |
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| 11:27.13 | Fisker | i disagree foxlit |
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| 11:31.57 | Fisker | omg |
| 11:31.59 | Fisker | i fucking came |
| 11:32.12 | Fisker | someone made a patch for vaio's remote ps3 play |
| 11:40.55 | mikma | haste: http://open.spotify.com/track/5r1aP7FLwslGOWku4EpK31 |
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| 11:52.23 | Fisker | monster fail |
| 11:52.54 | Fisker | that's probably the worst piece of software ever created |
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| 12:09.20 | robokitty | :D |
| 12:09.25 | robokitty | QQ moar, Fusker |
| 12:09.45 | Kalroth | the fisker tears, they're delicious |
| 12:09.50 | robokitty | indeed |
| 12:11.04 | Fisker | it's so retarded |
| 12:11.23 | Fisker | That remote play |
| 12:11.23 | Fisker | It won't run in 16:10 resolutions |
| 12:11.27 | Fisker | YEAH HOW HARD IS IT TO ADD BLACK BARS? |
| 12:11.38 | Fisker | and then it will only register over wireless |
| 12:11.42 | Fisker | O_o |
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| 12:12.37 | Kalroth | ><{{{*> ~~~~ |
| 12:12.41 | Kalroth | the tears! |
| 12:13.22 | Fisker | btw robokitty |
| 12:13.22 | Fisker | msn |
| 12:20.59 | eidolarr | anyone know awk? |
| 12:22.04 | G7fiah | anyone play in US nagrand:realm? |
| 12:24.06 | Wobin | G7fiah, yes |
| 12:25.00 | G7fiah | do u play horde or ally |
| 12:25.06 | Wobin | ally |
| 12:25.26 | G7fiah | do you know someone name kidsrule,kidspwn |
| 12:25.37 | Wobin | haven't come across the name, no |
| 12:25.46 | G7fiah | sweet ty |
| 12:26.12 | Wobin | any particular reason? =P |
| 12:26.36 | G7fiah | nope just wondering if someone know him |
| 12:26.45 | G7fiah | cus he is my friend and i want to see how famous he is |
| 12:26.46 | G7fiah | :P |
| 12:29.16 | Wobin | he may be on a different time |
| 12:29.25 | Wobin | I don't pay too much attention to tradechat =P |
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| 12:36.03 | zenzio | ohai thar peppy! |
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| 12:37.24 | Lopeppeppy | Oh hi! |
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| 12:52.04 | eidolarr | awk's distinction between s and $s is infuriating |
| 12:53.09 | eidolarr | and "s" is different too |
| 12:53.11 | Kraps | http://xkcd.com/755/ |
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| 13:00.46 | Fisker | hey kaprrar |
| 13:00.47 | Fisker | krapsrksr |
| 13:00.49 | Fisker | krasp |
| 13:00.50 | Fisker | Kraps |
| 13:01.27 | Kraps | Reksif |
| 13:01.40 | Fisker | no Kraps |
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| 13:03.33 | Fisker | hey Alram |
| 13:03.37 | Alram | hey Fisker |
| 13:03.40 | Fisker | no |
| 13:03.43 | Alram | :( |
| 13:03.45 | Alram | ass |
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| 13:04.21 | Fisker | :) |
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| 13:09.02 | alestane | Wow, preemptive topic-ing. |
| 13:09.21 | Cairenn | :) |
| 13:09.25 | Lopeppeppy | Midnight, it's official! |
| 13:09.26 | Cairenn | Happy birthday |
| 13:09.27 | Lopeppeppy | Happy birthday!!!! |
| 13:09.32 | alestane | Aw... |
| 13:09.50 | alestane | is birthday'd. |
| 13:09.59 | Cairenn | :) |
| 13:10.17 | Fisker | slaps alestane around a bit with a large trout |
| 13:10.21 | Fisker | are you my dad? |
| 13:11.20 | alestane | Haven't hatched anything recently, so probably not. |
| 13:12.57 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker wouldn't qualify as very "recent", I don't think. |
| 13:14.31 | alestane | http://www.amazon.com/Are-You-Mother-P-D-Eastman/dp/0394800184 |
| 13:15.31 | alestane | Which I guess makes the proper response, "I am not your father; I am a dino." |
| 13:16.08 | Fisker | i will find you though alestane |
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| 13:40.04 | mikma | haste: this is quite awesome: http://open.spotify.com/track/2oxG8fbNlyQxkjt9lmKHrW |
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| 13:42.43 | mikma | haste: http://open.spotify.com/track/5r1aP7FLwslGOWku4EpK31 -> <3 <3 :) |
| 13:43.06 | Fisker | haste kd3 mikma |
| 13:43.23 | Fisker | spotify is only for jerks |
| 13:43.30 | Fisker | it says so under available countries |
| 13:44.34 | mikma | cool, cool... i paid the 4.99 subscription myself |
| 13:52.14 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6uu8AVerBY this is for the <3 <3 -spotify link |
| 13:52.21 | mikma | same song, abit different version |
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| 14:03.17 | Shirik | both ends of the ozone burnin |
| 14:03.23 | Shirik | funny how the world keeps turnin |
| 14:05.48 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
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| 14:12.56 | Kraps | global agency crashed :( |
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| 14:14.10 | Kraps | http://failbook.com/2010/06/14/funny-facebook-fails-calculus-jokes-slippery-slope-win/ |
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| 14:17.56 | Fisker | your mom is a global agency Kraps |
| 14:18.53 | Kraps | no sense, you make |
| 14:20.05 | Shirik | lol @ "these puns are pushing me to my limits" |
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| 14:20.57 | Jamash | puns are an integral part of internet humor |
| 14:21.09 | Shirik | .. |
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| 14:21.26 | Fisker | hgeys rhis |
| 14:21.28 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 14:21.51 | Kraps | watching solv vs usa |
| 14:23.23 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 14:26.11 | nevcairiel | why does the f'ing ISO charge so much money simply for reading their f'ing documents. Most of them are patented anyway, so you read it, and pay patents to use it afterwards as well <.< |
| 14:26.30 | Kraps | yeah, slovenia is handling the ball much better |
| 14:26.54 | Jamash | nevcairiel: BECAUSE THEY CAN, MWA HA HA HA |
| 14:27.48 | nevcairiel | obviously |
| 14:28.00 | Ackis | nevcairiel: what's really interesting is that when you buy the document, only 1 person is allowed to read it at a time unless you buy it multiple times |
| 14:28.55 | nevcairiel | I just want the updated AVC specs to fix this stupid bug |
| 14:29.19 | Shirik | ha |
| 14:29.26 | Shirik | the obama administration is apparently pissed |
| 14:29.29 | Shirik | "When BP CEO Tony Hayward testified before Congress this morning, many expected to hear him apologize for the disaster his company has caused. Instead, GOP Congressman Joe Barton was the one saying he was sorry -- to BP." |
| 14:30.34 | Spejnar | I saw the clip, fucking awesome stuff. |
| 14:30.45 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 14:30.56 | Kraps | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vuvuzela |
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| 14:31.06 | Kraps | k this is fucking stupid |
| 14:31.49 | Shirik | ? |
| 14:31.49 | alestane | Yes, apparently the Republicans feel obliged to apologize for their liberal brethren making demands on BP. |
| 14:32.01 | mitch0 | kraps: you still don't have it filtered out on the broadcast? |
| 14:32.19 | Kraps | mitch0: no |
| 14:32.25 | foxlit | " ... and I retract my apology to BP," he said in a written statement." |
| 14:32.31 | Kraps | not even on espn radio |
| 14:32.33 | mitch0 | kraps: heh ;) |
| 14:32.35 | foxlit | You can retract apologies? Awesome. |
| 14:32.38 | alestane | Also, Fox News scourged Obama for praying during his public address on Tuesday, not two days after they excoriated him for not going to church when he clearly needed some divine guidance. |
| 14:32.59 | Jamash | haha |
| 14:33.08 | alestane | The man can't win for losing. |
| 14:33.29 | foxlit | Not with Fox, anyway |
| 14:33.40 | Seerah | don't take things that Fox News says seriously ;) |
| 14:33.56 | Seerah | but I didn't see that he "retracted" the apology he made yesterday |
| 14:34.25 | Shirik | foxlit: I'm sorry |
| 14:34.29 | Seerah | maybe he won't be getting his campaign dollars again next year |
| 14:34.30 | Shirik | oh wait no I'm not looooooooooool |
| 14:34.55 | alestane | I was going to say that they could at least be consistent, but I suppose they are...whatever Obama does is wrong. |
| 14:34.56 | Ackis | goes passive aggressive on your ass. |
| 14:35.06 | Seerah | alestane: this :) |
| 14:35.18 | Shirik | their marketing model is simple |
| 14:35.27 | Shirik | find some way to say what obama is doing is wrong |
| 14:35.33 | Shirik | I actually would like to work for Fox |
| 14:35.57 | Shirik | just to get my hands on some kind of internal document that says "Your task: Find some way to make obama look bad" |
| 14:36.01 | Shirik | and then leak it |
| 14:38.27 | Seerah | hehe |
| 14:39.09 | alestane | But yeah...if he prays, its's wrong, but if he skips church, it's wrong. If he hounds BP to fix their mess, he's anti-business, but if he lets things lie he's not doing enough, but if he directs federal aid he's wasting taxpayer money. |
| 14:39.20 | alestane | They've seriously got him coming and going. |
| 14:40.39 | Ackis | that's what happens in your 2 party system |
| 14:40.54 | Shirik | Google News Alert for: stuas |
| 14:40.54 | Shirik | Eurosatory 2010: New UAV launcher ready to ship to Afghanistan |
| 14:40.57 | Shirik | I click on the link |
| 14:41.08 | alestane | While I won't say it wasn't always like this, it wasn't always this bad. |
| 14:41.09 | Shirik | News |
| 14:41.09 | Shirik | This page does not exist, click here to return to the home page |
| 14:41.11 | Ackis | last week our 4 political parties banded together to keep a sex murderer from getting a pardon for a crime she committed 15ish years ago |
| 14:41.12 | Shirik | google fails me :( |
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| 14:42.44 | alestane | Bagpipes are capable f making some absolutely BIZARRE sounds. |
| 14:43.52 | Kraps | usa loses agaib |
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| 14:47.05 | Wobin | Romantic picture of the day: http://animalnewyork.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/52.jpg |
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| 14:50.03 | Cairenn | awwwwww |
| 14:50.07 | Fisker | slaps Cairenn around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:50.07 | Cairenn | nice pic :) |
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| 14:53.00 | Kraps | slaps Fisker for slapping Cairenn |
| 14:53.19 | Cairenn | hugs Kraps |
| 14:54.14 | alestane | sets Fisker's fish farm free. |
| 14:54.23 | alestane | Go, go! Live wild! |
| 14:58.03 | tem | That is a giant penis in the background, Wob |
| 14:59.23 | mikma | tem: jealous? |
| 14:59.33 | tem | only slightly |
| 14:59.38 | mikma | also |
| 14:59.46 | mikma | OMFG WOBIN TAG IT NSFW!!!!!!!!!11 |
| 14:59.59 | tem | did someone above say that usa lost to slovenia? |
| 15:00.06 | tem | I don't follow soccer too closely |
| 15:00.15 | nicoli_s | did someone say soccer is the new football in the us? |
| 15:01.02 | Kraps | tem: they are trailing 2-0 at halftime |
| 15:01.08 | tem | ah okay |
| 15:01.14 | Kraps | nicoli_s: never |
| 15:01.17 | tem | nicoli_s, nope |
| 15:01.22 | nicoli_s | it totally is |
| 15:01.27 | tem | I actually can't wait for football season right now |
| 15:01.35 | Adys_ | nevcairiel: here? |
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| 15:01.39 | nicoli_s | all the lame brained people i went to high school with who used to be hardcore about football have now switched to soccer |
| 15:01.56 | tem | >lame brained |
| 15:01.59 | tem | there's your problem |
| 15:02.02 | nicoli_s | and they are just as obsessive, memorizing all the players and all their personal details, and being so asshole about it back and forth |
| 15:02.06 | Kraps | http://graphjam.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/129209328504419918.png |
| 15:02.42 | tem | that's pretty damn accurate, Kraps |
| 15:03.38 | nicoli_s | i just feel like its one of those things that as more people do it, even more people will join in, just cuz its popular |
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| 15:04.43 | Kraps | nicoli_s: no |
| 15:04.53 | Kraps | usa scores! |
| 15:05.08 | nicoli_s | you can say that, but ive seen dozens of people turned like that |
| 15:05.15 | nicoli_s | and now i hear about soccer fucking everywhere |
| 15:05.30 | nicoli_s | with people being so crazy about it |
| 15:05.34 | nicoli_s | realy fucking annoying |
| 15:05.39 | Kraps | only because the usa is in it |
| 15:05.42 | Kraps | for now |
| 15:06.06 | Kraps | once they get eliminated it'll drop like a rock |
| 15:06.22 | nicoli_s | nope, im talking about for a while now |
| 15:06.27 | nicoli_s | like in the last 6 months |
| 15:06.54 | nicoli_s | its prob cuz im from a small town where everyone joins in on fads |
| 15:07.03 | nicoli_s | and this particular fad has spread outside my town apparently\ |
| 15:07.44 | Kraps | and as usual new yorkers dont give a shit about anything? :p |
| 15:09.09 | mikma | wobin: http://open.spotify.com/track/607ZBfF7QmW2vCkYWKWbVc |
| 15:10.09 | theorbtwo | I think soccer is one of those things that has been slowly moving up in age range. |
| 15:10.36 | theorbtwo | When I was a kid, the cool kids played socker in elementry & middle school, but by high school, the cool kids played football. |
| 15:10.47 | theorbtwo | Now the cool adults watch soccer. |
| 15:10.54 | nicoli_s | "cool" |
| 15:11.07 | mikma | cruel |
| 15:11.14 | theorbtwo | Yeah, I'm not one of the cool anythings. |
| 15:11.20 | nicoli_s | and i have no problem with that, except that at least with most of the peopel i know, they watch it because they want to be cool, not because they like soccer |
| 15:11.39 | nicoli_s | everyone else is doing it, so i have to act like im extra crazy about soccer to seem extra cool |
| 15:12.03 | theorbtwo | Or, of course, you have to not care so much about seeming extra cool. |
| 15:13.09 | nicoli_s | theorbtwo:that is just not possible where i come from |
| 15:13.26 | nicoli_s | it wouldnt be so bad if those same people didnt play like 8 hours of fifa a day when soccer isnt on |
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| 15:23.52 | airtonix | talking about "no hands ball" again ? |
| 15:24.47 | Zyn | not hand-egg at least |
| 15:26.16 | Seerah | Shadowed / Torhal: I'm pretty happy with how this turned out! :) Thanks for your help. :) http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info16943-GuildBankList.html |
| 15:26.41 | airtonix | wots soccer ? |
| 15:29.33 | Kraps | http://www.soccerjokes.com/ |
| 15:29.39 | Fisker | slaps nicoli_s around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:33.11 | Wobin | Seerah, so the order of the list is the order in the bank? |
| 15:33.17 | Seerah | yes |
| 15:33.33 | Wobin | You could probably hack the sort function from MrPlow to shift it around |
| 15:33.42 | Wobin | but that's a bit... messy =) |
| 15:34.00 | Seerah | that would rearrange it, though, for everyone else, too |
| 15:34.10 | Wobin | yes |
| 15:34.24 | Wobin | who cares about them, anyway =P |
| 15:35.09 | Seerah | :p |
| 15:35.57 | Kraps | anyone going to see toy story? |
| 15:36.25 | Seerah | we'll probably wait a week or two (we're lame and prefer to go when it's not so crowded :p ) |
| 15:38.05 | Ackis | lulz |
| 15:38.43 | Ackis | the new copyright law will require students to destroy copies of info provided in the course within 30 days of the course ending |
| 15:38.59 | Kraps | lol usa ties the game in the 82nd minute |
| 15:39.06 | Ackis | "However, the student shall destroy the reproduction within 30 days after the day on which the students who are enrolled in the course to which the lesson relates have received their final course evaluations." |
| 15:39.13 | nicoli_s | lol ackis |
| 15:39.17 | nicoli_s | so fucked up |
| 15:40.14 | Ackis | it gives a lot of rights to people, then takes them away by saying if it's protected you can't break that protection... wtf |
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| 15:40.35 | Ackis | so it's fair use for me to use it in research, but I can't if it has some sort of "protection" on it? |
| 15:43.31 | cogwheel | Fisker: |
| 15:43.33 | cogwheel | FISKER: |
| 15:43.40 | cogwheel | do you like Richard Cheese? [Yn]: |
| 15:43.47 | nevcairiel | Adys: now i am |
| 15:44.17 | Fisker | n |
| 15:44.24 | Fisker | i hate dickcheese |
| 15:44.57 | Ackis | http://kotaku.com/5565652/the-kingdom-hearts-keyblade-takes-disneyland/ |
| 15:45.25 | Adys | nevcairiel: hi! |
| 15:45.49 | Adys | nevcairiel: wheres the default bartender config to hide the minimap button? |
| 15:47.01 | cogwheel | Fisker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBOpk33VlSg |
| 15:47.30 | cogwheel | also i had a friend in school with the last name Flasher. His dad's name was Richard. |
| 15:47.40 | nevcairiel | Adys: add a hide = true in the minimapIcon table in the defaults table at the top of Bartender4.lua |
| 15:47.49 | Adys | love you! |
| 15:54.24 | Ackis | I just attempted to spell "meeting" like "meating" |
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| 15:54.59 | Kraps | game ends tied |
| 15:55.10 | nicoli_s | i do that all the time |
| 15:55.52 | Ackis | a tie is what helps out england more |
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| 15:59.08 | Lunessa | station |
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| 16:01.09 | Kraps | a goal was stolen from the usa |
| 16:11.35 | Lunessa | cogwheel: http://punditkitchen.com/2010/06/18/political-pictures-disco-inferno/ |
| 16:15.15 | Fisker | slaps Lunessa around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:16.12 | nicoli_s | Ackis:i didnt know you were a soccer slave too |
| 16:18.12 | Lunessa | So, the university leased one of our atria to a local church for a revival meeting today. I'm getting a sermon just by going to work. |
| 16:19.06 | Lunessa | And it's not even my faith. |
| 16:20.13 | Kraps | http://www.conveythis.com/translation.php |
| 16:24.47 | Ackis | nicoli_s: I'm a soccer slave? |
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| 16:30.05 | Maldivia | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8tODhvb47s ... what the.... |
| 16:31.49 | Lunessa | Snoop Dog, attaching himself to everything with mamaries on two legs. |
| 16:33.19 | Maldivia | I know HBO has very alternative promotion department... but this?! |
| 16:34.00 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 16:34.07 | nicoli_s | i think snoop dogg is hilarious |
| 16:34.14 | nicoli_s | saw him in concert pretty good too |
| 16:35.47 | Lunessa | snoop makes me laugh. I don't buy his albums, but he is entertaining in movies and in apperances. |
| 16:37.23 | nicoli_s | pretty much |
| 16:37.38 | Kaelten | lol that was funny, and the puns were nuts |
| 16:37.39 | Maldivia | agree, but must say I didn't really expect that :P |
| 16:41.08 | Ackis | star trek online allows me to check my ingame mail online, that's pretty wicked IMO, does WoW do that yet? |
| 16:41.27 | nicoli_s | nope |
| 16:41.32 | nicoli_s | but you can AH stuff! |
| 16:41.38 | Ackis | I knew they did some AH stuff |
| 16:41.38 | Ackis | yeah |
| 16:41.54 | Ackis | I wasn't sure if mail would have been part of it |
| 16:42.04 | nicoli_s | actually, maybe you can check yer mail |
| 16:42.08 | nicoli_s | but maybe only AH mail |
| 16:42.31 | Maldivia | it would be more interesting if you could check it offline ;) |
| 16:42.45 | zenzelezz | damnit Maldivia, I was just typing that out! |
| 16:42.46 | nicoli_s | via carrier pigeon |
| 16:43.02 | Ackis | is that service included free or is it a premium charge? |
| 16:43.10 | nicoli_s | premium |
| 16:43.15 | Ackis | lulz |
| 16:43.33 | nicoli_s | see this is why you need to start playing again ackis, get back in the wow swing of things!\ |
| 16:43.41 | Ackis | nah |
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| 16:46.56 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 16:46.57 | Fisker | hey u |
| 16:47.11 | Lunessa | Different games will have different features based on a) what customers ask for, b) what the company is willing to deliver, c) things that drive new subs or extend subs. |
| 16:47.51 | Lunessa | My in-game mail is usually just junk. No one uses it for serious communication. I don't feel a need for it to be accessible outside of the game. |
| 16:48.42 | Lunessa | However, Battle.net turning into more of a social network might have a use for mail I can access from a browser without logging into the game/games. |
| 16:49.01 | Ackis | Lunessa: mail would change if you could access it outside of the game |
| 16:49.30 | Lunessa | Ackis: It might. I think it would make a decent Battle.net feature. |
| 16:50.01 | foxlit | Can I anchor things to textures? |
| 16:50.03 | zenzelezz | didn't you hear? All the SC2 headquarters will feature mailboxes |
| 16:50.05 | Ackis | but I wasn't trying to compare STO, I've just found the feature neat in STO, was wondering if WoW had gone there, I knew they exposed some of the game to the real world |
| 16:50.10 | zenzelezz | it'll be like IM IN UR BASE READIN MY MAILS |
| 16:50.15 | foxlit | [SC2 UI is in flash?!] |
| 16:50.37 | Lunessa | foxlit: What sorts of things? |
| 16:50.50 | foxlit | Lunessa: more textures; perhaps a font string |
| 16:50.56 | nicoli_s | yeah foxlit |
| 16:51.07 | nicoli_s | and whats even funnier is you can decompile it, edit it, then recompile it and use it in game |
| 16:51.11 | Lunessa | foxlit: Yeah, I believe you can. |
| 16:51.30 | Lunessa | but... I can be horribly, horribly wrong. |
| 16:51.41 | zenzelezz | and I thought only that MMO, what was it... Jumpgate Evolution? Was crazy enough to use Flash |
| 16:51.53 | nicoli_s | actually, alot of games use flash in their ui |
| 16:52.02 | nicoli_s | but its just the bnet ui and lobby ui |
| 16:52.05 | nicoli_s | not ingame |
| 16:52.18 | nicoli_s | the in game ui is done via xml like wow |
| 16:52.35 | zenzelezz | that's a relief |
| 16:52.45 | zenzelezz | I'd be highly sceptical of any game with Flash in-game |
| 16:53.18 | Ackis | man if it had flash in the UI imagine how many "Curse Client"/"Minion" hacked my account posts there would be? |
| 16:53.37 | nicoli_s | come on now ackis, you know no one talks about minion :P |
| 16:54.48 | foxlit | Hm, so curse has a monopoly on "they stole my keys!" threads? |
| 16:54.54 | nicoli_s | yep |
| 16:55.09 | Kraps | i use minion |
| 16:55.23 | nicoli_s | i was just kidding |
| 16:56.01 | Ackis | lol |
| 16:56.03 | Ackis | "Canada's cellphone companies have each earned an F â the lowest possible rating by the Better Business Bureau." |
| 16:56.12 | Ackis | that's EVERY cell company here in Canada folks |
| 16:56.25 | nicoli_s | awesome |
| 16:56.53 | Kraps | http://badtranslations.conveythis.com/2010/06/18/dont-park-your-car-in-the-harvard-yard/ |
| 17:00.12 | nicoli_s | so that site is a non dynamic translation party? |
| 17:00.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Ackis: so.. they're still better than US cell companies, rightt? |
| 17:01.04 | Ackis | yup ;) |
| 17:01.18 | Ackis | I think you guys are a lot cheaper |
| 17:03.28 | Lunessa | I'd go with someone other than AT&T - if ANYONE else had a decent signal where I spend 80% of my day. |
| 17:05.05 | wereHamster | I think no carrier can get a decent signal to your moms basement.. |
| 17:05.37 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
| 17:06.07 | Ackis | what Fisker? |
| 17:07.13 | Lunessa | wereHamster: My mom doesn't have a basement, and I live on the second floor of my apartment building. But I am overweight and nerdy. However, I've actually had sex with real women. So... 2 out of 5 for timing, but minus several thousand for accuracy. |
| 17:10.53 | Ackis | thanks to nicoli_s I'm listening to Lady Gaga |
| 17:12.23 | nicoli_s | now i feel bad for showing it to you :P |
| 17:12.32 | Ackis | lulz |
| 17:13.59 | Seerah | oh, I found something new! (Probably old to you guys tho :p ) http://www.lmwhtfy.com/ |
| 17:15.02 | Lunessa | *chuckle* |
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| 17:15.39 | Seerah | oh, Lunessa: new addon is up |
| 17:15.46 | Ackis | https://www.eff.org/https-everywhere |
| 17:16.06 | Ackis | just installed that |
| 17:16.09 | Ackis | gonna see if it works |
| 17:16.17 | Lunessa | Haha... Screenies from our bank. |
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| 17:17.59 | alestane | Left on my FB wall: 'ç§ã¯å¬ããèªçæ¥ãæãããã¨ãæã! (P.S. - That is supposed to say, "Happy Birthday," but because I can't read Japanese it might say "I like pickles" for all I know!) haha!' |
| 17:18.22 | Adys | ç§ã¯å¬ããèªçæ¥ãæãããã¨ãæã Alestane! |
| 17:18.25 | Lunessa | Does it say "I like pickles"? |
| 17:18.30 | Adys | ~x jp en ç§ã¯å¬ããèªçæ¥ãæãããã¨ãæã |
| 17:18.40 | Adys | k. |
| 17:18.55 | Lunessa | And Seerah - It looks good. :) |
| 17:19.13 | alestane | As I explained, it comes out something like "I wish for you to engage in a joyful birthday." That is, it's technically accurate, but not really what I would call "right" at all. |
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| 17:20.05 | Lunessa | Seerah: Those screenies make me feel like I should be farming more. |
| 17:24.16 | Seerah | Lunessa: thanks :) |
| 17:25.52 | Seerah | and Lunessa I'll farm eventually. I am OCD and like the repetitive nature of farming. :) (Used to farm primals for hubby because I actually *enjoyed* it :) ) |
| 17:26.08 | Seerah | then he changed servers :p |
| 17:26.32 | Nechckn | If you want to farm goodies for me, I shan't leave you, Seerah. |
| 17:26.45 | Lunessa | Heh, I cleaned out lots of stuff by make it into scrolls, flasks, bags, etc. I just look at it now and see it's gotten sort of empty. |
| 17:26.53 | Seerah | :) but you aren't on Kirin Tor, Nechckn |
| 17:27.02 | Lunessa | s/make/making |
| 17:27.04 | Nechckn | hehehe that could change! |
| 17:27.19 | Lunessa | Grounding Totem always has room for channel regualrs. |
| 17:27.30 | Seerah | *nod* *nod* |
| 17:28.42 | Nechckn | Well, once Cat gets a bit closer, and the interest returns, will keep that in mind. Lord knows, there are more than enough toons from which to pick. |
| 17:29.21 | Nechckn | And, will need at least a gobby or six and a puppy-man, so there is always that option. |
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| 17:30.30 | Lunessa | *nod* I'm busy trying to decide - in my own head - what the "guild vision" is for Cataclysm. The WotLK vision didn't work out so well. |
| 17:31.13 | Nechckn | All tiny green people! |
| 17:31.37 | Lunessa | I'm pretty tempted. Goblins look like massive fun. :) |
| 17:32.06 | Lunessa | I'm thinking a goblin warrior with a charge macro "Ahhhh. Potential customer!" |
| 17:32.19 | Nechckn | And they are Goblins, of course. They just better have the "I got what you need!" emote. |
| 17:32.41 | Lunessa | And maybe Pummel has "BUY! BUY! BUY!" linked to it. |
| 17:32.50 | Nechckn | lol, nice! |
| 17:36.52 | Seerah | rofl |
| 17:38.44 | Fisker | hey Seerah |
| 17:38.46 | Fisker | stares |
| 17:39.06 | Seerah | stares back |
| 17:39.22 | Seerah | Fisker blinked! I win! |
| 17:39.46 | Lunessa | Once Cataclysm ships someone has to do a video of a Goblin and Gnome in Romeo and Juliet. |
| 17:39.55 | Seerah | :D |
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| 17:41.22 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: see, i'd consider rolling on your server if you did a horde guild ;) |
| 17:41.49 | Lunessa | hrm... Not sure how the rest of the membership would feel about that. |
| 17:42.00 | Lunessa | But I could open a brach office. |
| 17:42.03 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
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| 17:42.09 | NightHawkTheSane | i feel like i ought to be offended |
| 17:42.16 | Amarande | G'afternoon |
| 17:42.20 | Amarande | o.0, Night is angry, what of? |
| 17:42.20 | Lunessa | Well, Seerah and cogwheel are die hard gnomes. |
| 17:42.33 | Amarande | speaking of gnomes, I just lost my last chance to get quests done in gnomer |
| 17:42.35 | Seerah | so is lopeppeppy |
| 17:42.36 | Amarande | because of this stupid hunter. |
| 17:42.40 | NightHawkTheSane | if you think this is angry, you've not seen angry :P |
| 17:42.45 | Amarande | I actually used my ignore list for the first time in forever |
| 17:42.52 | Amarande | hopefully it really does mean I won't ever get queued in with her again :P |
| 17:43.02 | Lunessa | Amarande: How can that be your last time ever? |
| 17:43.11 | Amarande | Lunessa: I have to leave for work in about 1 hr 45 min |
| 17:43.18 | Amarande | which means I don't really have enough time to do Gnomer again now and will be questing |
| 17:43.19 | Lunessa | You can do it tomorrow. |
| 17:43.23 | NightHawkTheSane | (and he wont retur.. DUN DUN DUN DUN!) |
| 17:43.27 | Amarande | by tomorrow, I'll probably hit 34 |
| 17:43.30 | Thunder_Child | ^^ |
| 17:43.32 | Amarande | and 33 is the highest you can still queue for gnomer at |
| 17:43.40 | Lunessa | ... ah |
| 17:43.43 | Thunder_Child | not if you area laready in queue |
| 17:43.47 | Amarande | (which is kinda stupid since quests in gnomer have lvls up to 35) |
| 17:43.49 | Thunder_Child | are already* |
| 17:43.58 | Amarande | heh come to think of it on that quest level thing |
| 17:44.10 | Amarande | I wonder if anyone ever manages to do all the stuff in ST anymore without turning off xp or coming back at 80 :) |
| 17:44.36 | NightHawkTheSane | sunken temple? yeah |
| 17:44.39 | NightHawkTheSane | its uh, not hard. |
| 17:44.47 | Amarande | Night: ST is even worse than Gnomeregan on that, because you are nearly outleveling it by the time you can even GET half the quests |
| 17:44.50 | Amarande | since the mobs are like 44-50 |
| 17:44.59 | Amarande | but you have to be 50 to even start half the chains that lead to quests there |
| 17:45.22 | Amarande | 2.3 hurt that instance more than any other |
| 17:45.29 | NightHawkTheSane | not really |
| 17:45.52 | Amarande | but yeah, I'm going to no longer be able to queue for Gnomer by the time I have time to do a long instance like that again |
| 17:46.04 | NightHawkTheSane | it only hurt people who don't care enough to actually do the quests for it. and those people don't care anyway |
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| 17:46.17 | NightHawkTheSane | no one's bending your wrist to make you level |
| 17:46.18 | Amarande | apparently, there are more bads on alliance than horde though so I probably better get used to it :S |
| 17:46.24 | Lunessa | I like Sunken Temple. |
| 17:46.29 | Amarande | and *probably*, I should blame myself at least a bit |
| 17:46.35 | NightHawkTheSane | there's no probably about it. |
| 17:46.38 | Amarande | because I was grabbing the same item, from the lower platform |
| 17:46.43 | Amarande | which is probably what made her start grabbing it |
| 17:46.54 | Amarande | and I was probably a fool to expect people to understand such concepts as scaling aggro radius :) |
| 17:46.59 | Amarande | especially an unguilded unknown alliance player |
| 17:47.39 | Amarande | at 32 I could get away with it, but apparently you can't at 29, and everyone else in group was mid-late 20s |
| 17:48.15 | Amarande | Night: I wonder if that's a principle I need to take to heart |
| 17:48.17 | Lunessa | Back in Classic, I was playing a mage. My regular questing partner was a priest. She used to demand to know how I was able to wander though areas and not get aggro. *shrug* You get a feel for your radius with practice. |
| 17:48.27 | Amarande | never do anything to do with aggro radius, that the lowest level in group can't also get away with? |
| 17:48.37 | Amarande | because people are very much beings of monkey see monkey do? |
| 17:49.44 | Amarande | not to mention I've two 80s and thus a lot more experience with aggro ... this hunter might have been that player's first character |
| 17:49.49 | Amarande | gj me, I might have just turned someone off to the game :| |
| 17:50.06 | Amarande | gah |
| 17:50.14 | Amarande | I always think of myself as (and usually am) a pretty sweet person |
| 17:50.17 | Amarande | but sometimes I can be really mean |
| 17:50.20 | Amarande | and I never really understand why :| |
| 17:51.07 | Amarande | or is that just the human nature |
| 17:53.20 | Amarande | and actually ... is turning bads off to the game really a bad thing heh |
| 17:55.04 | Seerah | Amarande: only if there's no chance in hell they'll get better ;) |
| 17:55.41 | Amarande | Seerah: is running into mobs and wiping the group to selfishly grab quest loot a trait that usually goes away in time? |
| 17:55.47 | NightHawkTheSane | i generally assume there's no chance anyone will get better. |
| 17:55.51 | alestane | I just saw the first piece of (probably machine-translated) Japanese that well-wisher posted, Lunessa...it came out more or less as "Happy birthday, Seize Nevin!" |
| 17:55.54 | NightHawkTheSane | but i'm a cycnical, people-hating, asshole. |
| 17:56.12 | Seerah | Amarande: that's usually a case of tunnel-vision caused by an acute sense of "ooh shinies!" |
| 17:56.31 | Amarande | Night: I'm a generally kind and sweet person but for some reason I'm also possessed by a weird tendency to go off into horrible tirades :| |
| 17:56.37 | Amarande | I'm not sure why |
| 17:56.42 | Lunessa | alestane: If we seize you, it'll be to drag you off to get many libations and maybe torment you with delicious foods. |
| 17:56.44 | Amarande | It could be that the world just sucks, but ... |
| 17:57.24 | alestane | I think it was supposed to be "Have a Happy Birthday," but Japanese encounters severe difficulty with the word "have." |
| 17:57.25 | NightHawkTheSane | the world does suck. |
| 17:57.36 | foxlit | Hey, ICC has music. |
| 17:57.38 | foxlit | Strings! |
| 17:57.45 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: your mom has music. |
| 17:57.45 | foxlit | I should turn that on more often. |
| 17:58.03 | Seerah | man... Kirin Tor has been having stability issues lately... currently, the BC world server is down (mage was in Exodar). At least it's not the whole thing atm |
| 17:58.20 | Amarande | what were you doing in emptydar to begin with? :) |
| 17:58.29 | Seerah | <3 Exodar |
| 17:58.42 | alestane | It's soothing! |
| 17:58.42 | Seerah | bank, AH, nice and quiet |
| 17:58.43 | Amarande | it's pretty, but it's also tedious to get around in a way that's only even rivaled by ironforge |
| 17:58.53 | Amarande | and I still don't know where the friggin reagent vendor is :| |
| 17:59.06 | Seerah | right behind the wall of the shop that you port into |
| 17:59.07 | Amarande | because the place is so damn big that if you don't already HAVE an idea where the reagent vendor is, the tracking for reagents is useless |
| 17:59.09 | Amarande | ah |
| 17:59.10 | Lunessa | Seerah: The box is 4 years old. I would expect it to be needing some work,. :) |
| 17:59.31 | Amarande | that's one thing I do like about SW is that the vendors are placed more sanely |
| 17:59.34 | Amarande | I'm not a fan of humans though |
| 17:59.43 | Seerah | Lunessa: didn't all servers get upgraded for WotLK? |
| 17:59.45 | Dagmar | I'm not saying it's not annoying, but Ironforge and Exodar are both organized a bit like shopping malls |
| 17:59.48 | Amarande | ... yet ironically enough, my draenei's highest faction outside of exodar is stormwind :P |
| 18:00.04 | Amarande | The human attitude sometimes makes me wonder why the heck the Draenei decided to join the Alliance |
| 18:00.07 | alestane | That happened to me too, Amarande. I got a horse at about level 41. |
| 18:00.21 | Dagmar | Exodar has three themed wings, Ironforge has crafting on the inner ring, classes on the outer ring (with the exception of the Gnomish Menace) |
| 18:00.23 | Amarande | I mean ... Humans. Petty, revenge focused people. Draenei. Ooshy sweet WE WALK IN THE LIGHT people. |
| 18:00.24 | alestane | Remember that Wrynn wasn't back yet when they showed up. |
| 18:00.37 | Amarande | alestane: yeah, but humans have always been kinda revenge happy |
| 18:00.38 | Lunessa | Seerah: Actually, I'm not sure. Kirin Tor is rarely 'down for extended maintenance' - so I expect that something important failed. |
| 18:00.41 | Amarande | quest in duskwood sometime |
| 18:00.48 | Amarande | I think there's at least two quests that are named "X's Revenge" |
| 18:01.23 | Amarande | alestane: who was the human leader before they put Varian Wrong back? :) |
| 18:01.36 | alestane | Bolvar Fordragon. |
| 18:01.43 | Dagmar | Well, sort of a kid actually |
| 18:01.45 | Amarande | ahh, that must be why they brought Wrynn back |
| 18:01.49 | alestane | Or Archbishop Benedictus, there was a coup for a little while. |
| 18:01.49 | Dagmar | ..but at least he was a NICE kid |
| 18:01.50 | Amarande | so they could kill off Bolvar at Wrathgate? |
| 18:02.01 | Amarande | without causing achievement and other PvP issues by SW not having a leader anymore? |
| 18:02.17 | NightHawkTheSane | they didn't bring wrynn back SOLELY for the purpose of killing bolvar. that's idiotic. |
| 18:02.21 | alestane | Anduin Wrynn was there, but I don't think he ever said anything. Katrana Prestor did all his talking for him. |
| 18:02.26 | Amarande | (I'm sure there would have been an immense row among Alliance if Horde only needed to kill 3 leaders and Alliance needed 4 for their bear) |
| 18:02.43 | zenzelezz | "Not enough space to install Application. [Yes] [No]" - why are you asking me? |
| 18:02.48 | Dagmar | They brought in an adult because otherwise the Horde achievement would involve killing a eight year old king regent, which is questionable on the best of days |
| 18:02.56 | Amarande | Night: well, if they wanted to kill off Bolvar, they had to give SW a new leader so there wouldn't be a row about For The Horde needing one less city than For The Alliance :) |
| 18:03.05 | Dagmar | zenzelezz: You MIGHT have more space hidden somewhere it cna't see |
| 18:03.09 | NightHawkTheSane | Amarande: or, you know, it just made sense for the story. GASP. |
| 18:03.30 | zenzelezz | Dagmar: my point is there's no question in the dialog, yet it presents button as if there was |
| 18:03.38 | Dagmar | Amarande: Stormwind *had* a leader. The king regent. |
| 18:03.39 | Amarande | Dagmar: yeah, that would kinda make the Horde possibly downright evil |
| 18:03.44 | zenzelezz | Dagmar: but I do hate any and all installers that only look at my C: partition |
| 18:03.47 | Amarande | and we already have the questionability of the Forsaken |
| 18:03.48 | Dagmar | Amarande: That little kid that was in there _was_ actually the king |
| 18:04.05 | Amarande | which seem to be divided between "ones actually loyal to the horde" and "dirty traitors who should have stayed with arthas to begin with" |
| 18:04.18 | NightHawkTheSane | shit, if all they cared about was keeping the balance, any idiot could have died at the wrath gate. |
| 18:04.22 | Dagmar | I don't disagree there. Even if I were Horde I'd probablky draw the line at assembling a hit squad to go kill a ten-year-old |
| 18:04.29 | Dagmar | Like, "Sorry, but there's no honor in this" |
| 18:04.39 | Amarande | not to mention, there'd be something just odd about a ten year old with 5,587,000 HP |
| 18:04.49 | Dagmar | Heheh |
| 18:05.23 | Amarande | wonder how long before they get rid of Wrynn |
| 18:05.31 | Amarande | I'm kinda hoping they kill him off for Cata, but I doubt they will :| |
| 18:05.53 | Amarande | should have just made Jaina the human leader, she's actually sane :) |
| 18:05.54 | Dagmar | Yeah I think it would be unlikely that his replacement could be a bigger dickhead. |
| 18:06.34 | NightHawkTheSane | its unlikely he'll be replaced. |
| 18:06.54 | Amarande | oh well, at least wrynn isn't a leader you have to encounter often |
| 18:07.03 | Amarande | I'm not sure I've even actually laid eyes on him yet after 32 levels of being ally |
| 18:07.11 | NightHawkTheSane | frankly, i'm surprised they haven't killed off jaina. |
| 18:07.13 | Amarande | and I've been to SW keep a few times for quests |
| 18:07.21 | Dagmar | You did the tournament, right? |
| 18:07.31 | Amarande | Dagmar: only a little bit, and only on horde |
| 18:07.33 | Dagmar | He's the *asshole* up there in the stands complaining that he doesn't have time for this. |
| 18:07.43 | Amarande | the jousting stuff kinda turned me off to the tournament quests :P |
| 18:08.03 | Amarande | it's a neat idea, but I just never really found it to be fun |
| 18:08.41 | Amarande | Night: yeah, Jaina is kind of a loose cannon, despite her consistently good intentions |
| 18:09.03 | Amarande | I imagine if you tried being like her in say the US military you'd probably be in Leavenworth so fast it'd make your head swim |
| 18:09.18 | Amarande | heh |
| 18:09.31 | NightHawkTheSane | her good intentions is entirely why she would be killed off. |
| 18:09.51 | NightHawkTheSane | she's pretty much the only sane leader the alliance has left. the only one VAGUELY interested in actual peace. |
| 18:09.53 | Dagmar | I think you're making a very good argument about why she'd be an interesting choice to lead Stormwind |
| 18:10.05 | Amarande | otoh if it wasn't for Jaina, horde side undercity retaking would probably have to be a group or raid quest |
| 18:10.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: what, me? |
| 18:10.24 | Dagmar | sane, well-intentioned, talented, has leadership qualities, and killing her would make for an excellent plot point |
| 18:10.28 | Lunessa | None of the race/faction leaders are interested in peace. |
| 18:10.34 | Amarande | because then you'd have to FIGHT Wrynn and all those soldiers |
| 18:10.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: thrall is. jaina is (mostly) |
| 18:10.56 | Dagmar | Uh... I'd fight Wrynn--no problem there--and I'm Alliance. |
| 18:11.01 | NightHawkTheSane | I think cairn is. |
| 18:11.04 | Amarande | (not to mention then you'd have other design considerations, like whether Wrynn's inevitable death in such a situation counts for For The Horde) |
| 18:11.06 | Dagmar | Ah doon' lahk that roundear |
| 18:11.12 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: Cata is going to rock your world then. |
| 18:11.17 | Amarande | you know I really don't know much about Cairne |
| 18:11.32 | Amarande | he kinda just seems to just stand there in TB, barely even has much quest dialog that I've seen |
| 18:11.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: thats what i'm saying, there are/were a lot of people interested in peace, and that's not great for a game about war. they have to be replaced :P |
| 18:11.42 | Dagmar | Cairne is interested in peace, which is apparently why the Horde are getting rid of him |
| 18:11.46 | Amarande | and most of it seems to be just standard leveling quest type stuff rather than ally/horde stuff |
| 18:12.03 | Dagmar | I still say I suspect his assassination will make CNN |
| 18:12.16 | Amarande | and apparently the horde is going to go bonkers like the colonel bastard in avatar come cata :P |
| 18:12.26 | Dagmar | ...because twelve million people will give a shit. That makes it news. |
| 18:12.39 | Amarande | (the resemblance is actually pretty strong, given that Astranaar will get destroyed, and Pandora *constantly* seemed to remind me of nelf areas) |
| 18:13.01 | Amarande | oh wait, and auberdine gets nuked too |
| 18:13.13 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: hence, i think jaina's days are kinda numbered. although if they get rid of everyone else, she makes a great plot point as the exception, but i'm skeptical that they'd go that route |
| 18:13.15 | Amarande | but does auberdine get sacked by the horde like astranaar or does it just kinda fall apart into the ocean? |
| 18:13.30 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: She makes a good foil. |
| 18:13.34 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: This dwarf will back her |
| 18:13.48 | Dagmar | Seriously, Jaina could probably get most everyone to rally under her banner |
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| 18:13.50 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: the problem is, she's not the foil, wrynn is the foil to her. she's much more of a REAL character :P |
| 18:13.54 | Amarande | Night: otoh, I'm not sure if Jaina is really someone they can get rid of, also Thrall or Sylvanas are kinda protected |
| 18:13.59 | Amarande | and even Wrynn, come to think of it |
| 18:14.06 | Amarande | remember they said they're not really changing 70-80 quests |
| 18:14.24 | Amarande | and if they sack Jaina they have to redo a lot of the late wrathgate chain stuff |
| 18:14.37 | Dagmar | Only if they retcon her or something |
| 18:14.41 | Lunessa | And bringing back Varian was a plan all along... Missing Diplomat story-line and all. |
| 18:14.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: agreed. |
| 18:15.01 | Amarande | although ... they're also getting rid of thrall in favor of garrosh, aren't they? |
| 18:15.07 | Amarande | so they're going to have to redo wrathgate anyway I imagine |
| 18:15.21 | NightHawkTheSane | probably not. |
| 18:15.34 | Amarande | I'm still finding it hard to imagine that guy in nagrand with like 5000 hp as being the new warchief. :) |
| 18:15.35 | NightHawkTheSane | i imagine they may just leave it, and just handwave past it. |
| 18:15.50 | Dagmar | hehee |
| 18:15.58 | Dagmar | That would be fun |
| 18:16.01 | Lunessa | The point is that each and every leader has things about them which we can love and respect, and other things we can hate. And they all have a hate or anger which borders on madness or obsession with someone on the opposite faction. |
| 18:16.04 | Amarande | Night: it's too bad in that regard that WoW doesn't use the GW full-instance style paradigm |
| 18:16.10 | Amarande | it would have been a lot easier to work there |
| 18:16.15 | Dagmar | "Today was a good day. I finally managed to one-shot the horde leader with my new bow" |
| 18:16.41 | Amarande | GW was actually able to integrate real storylines into its PvE environment, that each player could do at their own pace, because of that instancing thing |
| 18:16.47 | Dagmar | Lunessa: There's something to respect about Wrynn? |
| 18:16.58 | Amarande | Yeah, I find it hard to respect Wrynn |
| 18:17.06 | Amarande | if you respect him, you pretty much have to respect Colonel guy from Avatar, too |
| 18:17.13 | Amarande | and he's about the most hateable character I've seen in ages |
| 18:17.22 | Lunessa | Yeah, actually there is a lot to respect about him. |
| 18:17.23 | alestane | Wrynn is powerful and dedicated, even if it is in the manner of a fanatic. |
| 18:17.34 | Lunessa | "Stand aside Muradin. Let a grieving father pass." |
| 18:17.39 | Amarande | It makes me wonder why there isn't more tension in the Alliance, though |
| 18:17.54 | Amarande | because you'd think that Velen and Tyrande would in particular have trouble working with a leader like Wrynn |
| 18:18.06 | Amarande | the night elves have always been mostly pretty peaceful unless something threatens nature, that I've seen at least |
| 18:18.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: *nod* which is why I said wrynn wont be going anywhere. He's too valuable of a character to have in the world. |
| 18:18.14 | Amarande | and the draenei are just ooshy sweetness personified |
| 18:18.16 | Lunessa | Tyrande? She's as bloodthirsty as they come. |
| 18:18.31 | Amarande | Lunessa: okay, maybe I don't know Tyrande too well then :) |
| 18:18.35 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm pretty sure the night elves more or less despise the horde after what they did to ashenvale |
| 18:18.39 | Amarande | Velen, I can see having real problems cooperating with Wrynn, though |
| 18:18.39 | kd3 | looks at "Night elf mistakes" |
| 18:18.44 | Lunessa | She just hasn't been getting a lot of screen time since the war against the Quiraji |
| 18:18.58 | Amarande | between the ooshy sweetness of the draenei, and the fact that the draenei just really don't face much threat from the Horde in general |
| 18:19.14 | Amarande | Azuremyst and Bloodmyst are all the way out in the boondocks and hardly any Alliance go there, let alone Horde |
| 18:19.32 | Amarande | (and if there IS any horde out there it's usually the occasional 80 out there to do explorer) |
| 18:19.44 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/User:Kaydeethree/Night_elves_mistakes |
| 18:19.45 | kd3 | >.> |
| 18:19.58 | Amarande | what makes Velen cooperate with the humans still? |
| 18:20.43 | Amarande | (besides the fact that I can't see him fitting in the horde either and a neutral race is something that has been mulled over a number of times on forums and agreed to be unviable) |
| 18:21.04 | NightHawkTheSane | kd3: i am amused. |
| 18:23.18 | Lunessa | kd3: "Illidan, you're under arrest for playing the devil rock music." -LULZ |
| 18:24.01 | Amarande | kd3: what's "kek" orcish for? |
| 18:24.22 | Amarande | remember, I used to mostly play Horde, so I only saw Orcish as actual readable text :) |
| 18:25.26 | Maldivia | kek=lol |
| 18:25.28 | Dagmar | "heh" |
| 18:25.38 | Dagmar | eets in furriner |
| 18:25.57 | NightHawkTheSane | bur |
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| 18:29.59 | alestane | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/6/18/ |
| 18:30.13 | Amarande | someone really needs to make an alliance/horde horde/alliance dictionary addon |
| 18:30.21 | cogwheel | anyone remember when GetNumLaguages was corrected? |
| 18:30.24 | Dagmar | Amarande: TOS violation |
| 18:30.31 | batrick | Shirik: Cide: Iriel: You can load and dumb a function with upvalues. |
| 18:30.35 | alestane | Besides the fact that that violates the ToS directly? |
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| 18:30.46 | Amarande | alestane: even a dictionary you have to manually look up the words in? |
| 18:30.50 | batrick | by default the upvalues are set to nil when you load the function. |
| 18:31.02 | cogwheel | Amarande: communicating cross faction is what's against the tos |
| 18:31.08 | cogwheel | at least until realid |
| 18:31.12 | Amarande | yeah |
| 18:31.13 | alestane | I'm not sure they're all consistent anyway. |
| 18:31.16 | Amarande | with 3.3.5 we might be able to do it |
| 18:31.26 | Amarande | since they're going to have to end of life that clause with the patch |
| 18:31.36 | Amarande | wonder if that's another reason 3.3.5 is taking a while ... they have to clear it with Legal because of the TOS thing? |
| 18:31.41 | Thunder_Child | no, because single target cross-faction is a whole lot different than global |
| 18:31.44 | Dagmar | Amarande: What makes you think that? |
| 18:32.03 | cogwheel | Amarande: it's not like realid has been a surprise... |
| 18:32.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: neurosis, imo. |
| 18:32.06 | Dagmar | There wouldn't even be a conflict there, man |
| 18:32.06 | Amarande | Dagmar: they're stating that real-ID friends will explicitly be able to communicate *regardless of faction* |
| 18:32.11 | Dagmar | Yes. |
| 18:32.17 | Amarande | which directly contradicts the "cross-faction communication" clause |
| 18:32.21 | Dagmar | no, it doesn't. |
| 18:32.21 | cogwheel | "hmm, you know we're nearing the end of the PTR. Maybe we should have legal look over this brand new idea" |
| 18:32.33 | Dagmar | It directly contracts the oversimplified definition your'e working with. |
| 18:32.45 | Dagmar | It doesn't actually contradict anything that exists. |
| 18:32.46 | Amarande | you know, I wonder what would happen if I made a MMO and didn't impose any Terms of Service |
| 18:32.51 | Amarande | would people love it? :) |
| 18:33.02 | NightHawkTheSane | the hackers would. |
| 18:33.14 | Dagmar | Amarande: You'd be getting sued the first time you cancelled an account for DDoSing the servers |
| 18:33.17 | Ackis | kd3: I like that wiki page of yours :P |
| 18:34.05 | Dagmar | cogwhel: Legal's response: "WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE?!" |
| 18:34.36 | Amarande | Dagmar: not to mention running an unregulated comms system that isn't a common carrier is pretty much asking to go to jail for facilitating piracy and CP, sadly |
| 18:34.54 | Dagmar | Not that either |
| 18:34.54 | Amarande | hell, even sites that allow people to distribute files via them that don't vet uploads before making them available are illegal now |
| 18:35.03 | Dagmar | No they're not |
| 18:35.21 | kd3 | rapidshare's still up, so... |
| 18:35.22 | Amarande | Dagmar: maybe not explicitly, but you still go down like a sack of bricks the moment people start taking advantage of you to distribute illegal files :) |
| 18:35.22 | Thunder_Child | as a matter of fact the realid coms are going to use a different sub-system, otherwise it wouldnt work to other games |
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| 18:35.25 | Amarande | remember Napster :) |
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| 18:35.39 | Dagmar | Amarande: Like kd3 said... "rapidshare's still up" |
| 18:35.41 | Dagmar | ...and hotfile. |
| 18:35.53 | Dagmar | ...and oron, and sendfile, and about a half dozen others. |
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| 18:36.26 | Dagmar | I remember Napster. They were dumb as rocks. |
| 18:36.43 | Dagmar | Don't fucking run ads saying explicitly "WE HAVE PIRATED MUSIC FOR YOU" |
| 18:36.56 | Dagmar | I mean seriously. |
| 18:37.37 | Dagmar | If I were a manager over there I would have found the person responsible for that and one of their job responsibilities would be to show up in front of my desk each day to be slapped for stupidity. |
| 18:37.41 | Dagmar | ...to this day. |
| 18:38.06 | Adys | Dagmar: I know a girl in $YOURTOWN you can meet |
| 18:39.14 | Amarande | Adys: heh, I still remember when some astronauts got ads like that |
| 18:39.18 | Amarande | MEET GIRLS IN LOW EARTH ORBIT! |
| 18:39.51 | Amarande | granted, they say sex in zero-g is kinda interesting |
| 18:40.01 | Amarande | but exactly where did they expect people to meet girls in low earth orbit :D |
| 18:40.07 | Adys | you know the whole chan reads xkcd right.. |
| 18:40.25 | Amarande | ahh, I must have forgotten that came from xkcd :) |
| 18:40.26 | Dagmar | How exactly were astronauts going to get that ad? |
| 18:40.49 | Dagmar | Amarande: It helps when you try and distinguish things which are real from things which are drawn in webcomics. |
| 18:40.59 | Dagmar | Had to say it. |
| 18:41.00 | Amarande | Dagmar: it helps to not forget sources, apparently :| |
| 18:41.27 | Lunessa | this is why hallucinogenics are a bad idea, m'kay? |
| 18:41.41 | Dagmar | xkcd is a webcomic. it's not meant to be used as a news reporting system, dudde. |
| 18:42.00 | Dagmar | ...that and astronauts aren't really allowed to browse the interwebs. |
| 18:42.10 | Dagmar | Sprint charges way too much for packet service that far out |
| 18:42.19 | Amarande | and imagine the malware |
| 18:42.29 | Amarande | "TEN SECONDS TO OXYGEN SYSTEM FAILURE" |
| 18:42.43 | Amarande | "Dammit, Smith, did you browse porn on the main shuttle system again?" |
| 18:43.12 | Dagmar | Yeah, "fatal error" can be a bit too fatal. |
| 18:43.41 | Amarande | Yeah, that's why they code shuttle stuff in weird ass languages like Ada that no one outside the government and insane asylums actually uses :) |
| 18:44.14 | cbreak | old stuff uses old languages |
| 18:44.25 | Dagmar | That and Ada can be audited wth other software |
| 18:44.35 | Dagmar | Keeps rockets out of the river, so to speak (and sort of) |
| 18:45.06 | Amarande | Yeah, kinda don't want to come home from work to find a crew module in my living room :) |
| 18:45.17 | Dagmar | Pfft. That's _you_ |
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| 18:45.29 | Amarande | well, a crew module itself would be kinda neat |
| 18:45.38 | Ackis | What a cunning addon: http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/linguist/ |
| 18:45.39 | Amarande | the fact that the roof would probably be gone and the flat screen TV on the floor in pieces wouldn't be. |
| 18:45.41 | Dagmar | I might be a little upset about hte TV, but as to the rest that would be pretty damn cool |
| 18:45.50 | Dagmar | ...provided of course there's not like, "astronaut sauce" everywhere |
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| 18:46.22 | cbreak | I think most casualties in space programs either died before the liftoff |
| 18:46.25 | cbreak | or got evaporated |
| 18:46.41 | Dagmar | I would be calling ALL my friends over... "No, I can't explain it--you would never believe me. Just get your ass over here NOW before the CIA or something" |
| 18:47.08 | Amarande | Dagmar: imagine if that's also the same day the Google cameras snapshot your area for Street View? :) |
| 18:47.08 | Lunessa | Dagmar: "K did you flashy-thing me?" |
| 18:47.29 | Amarande | has a sad. There's still no Street View for this area yet. :( |
| 18:48.03 | Ackis | my joke was funny! |
| 18:49.02 | Dashkal | Hat's unpossible... |
| 18:49.06 | Dashkal | That* |
| 18:49.27 | Amarande | Ackis, is there an option yet in ARL to hide recipes that a character cannot ever possibly obtain, and perhaps not even count them towards full completion of the profession? |
| 18:49.37 | Amarande | like to make it stop bothering me that I will never ever get thistle tea on my warlock :) |
| 18:49.52 | Amarande | or stop taunting me with naxx60 tailoring recipes on my priest :) |
| 18:49.52 | Ackis | uncheck show rogue recipes |
| 18:50.13 | Ackis | I think there was a retired or similar flag added for that one |
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| 18:50.29 | Amarande | speaking of professions ... I wouldn't be surprised if 80 content remains significantly popular for a fair while after Cata comes out |
| 18:50.40 | Amarande | one specific profession occurred to me |
| 18:51.20 | Amarande | Inscription. Glyphs don't lose usefulness with level like other professions' crafts do, and a lot of good glyphs can *only* be obtained via the Book of Glyph Mastery |
| 18:51.27 | Amarande | which I presume you'll have to still run 80 content to get |
| 18:51.30 | cbreak | did Sunwell for the first time last monday. |
| 18:51.40 | Amarande | (there will probably be a new book for cata glyphs I'm imagining) |
| 18:51.49 | Dagmar | cbreak: Is that 5-mannable at 80? |
| 18:51.50 | cbreak | the animation after the last boss fight was dazzleing. |
| 18:51.54 | cbreak | we were 11 |
| 18:52.02 | Dashkal | I half expect the books of glyoph mastery to drop in 80-85 copntent |
| 18:52.03 | Dagmar | Ah so that's prolly a no then. hehe |
| 18:52.05 | cbreak | It was rather doable |
| 18:52.30 | Amarande | Dagmar: I doubt you can 5-man it |
| 18:52.32 | cbreak | but most didn't know the strategies (since it was the first time for most of us) |
| 18:52.39 | Amarande | I'm mainly thinking of things like Brutallus |
| 18:52.41 | cbreak | we only wiped a few times, on the flying dragon boss |
| 18:52.43 | Dagmar | I'm probably going to try to lollerskate through there with pug fill-ins the next time there's four guildmates on |
| 18:52.49 | Amarande | how much raid DPS do you need, at *minimum*, to beat enrage on Brutallus? |
| 18:53.03 | Maldivia | kd3: did you by any chance ever use http://www.wowhead.com/item=30090 ? |
| 18:53.16 | cbreak | the flying dragon boss is tricky, he can MC the whole raid and wipe you within seconds |
| 18:53.20 | cbreak | no matter if you're 5 or 25 |
| 18:53.30 | Dagmar | <-- almost immune to MC |
| 18:53.32 | Amarande | but making the enrage on Brut with a tank and only three DPS ... |
| 18:53.36 | Amarande | let's see |
| 18:53.48 | Amarande | ok, maybe just maybe if everyone has BiS ICC gear |
| 18:53.52 | Dagmar | I'll ice trap myself if I think there's a mob gonna MC me |
| 18:53.54 | Amarande | but that's just the enrage timer you're thinking of. |
| 18:54.23 | Amarande | and doesn't the enrage just get tighter after that, since Brut is basically a gear check before continuing into sunwell? |
| 18:54.56 | Dagmar | ~20k DPS needed |
| 18:55.00 | Dagmar | We might need six people |
| 18:56.02 | Amarande | yeah, maybe the DPS is possible, since some classes are going over 10k now in BiS |
| 18:56.17 | Amarande | but that's assuming you need only one tank and healer, and I'm pretty sure you still would need at least 2 of each for sunwell |
| 18:56.32 | Dagmar | Astonishingly, I've been handing out 4k-6k in regular heroics lately |
| 18:56.49 | Dagmar | I don't even know where all that is coming from, but I ain't complainin' |
| 18:57.12 | Dagmar | Looks like Brutallus would kinda need two tankds |
| 18:58.31 | cbreak | 10k? without synergies? |
| 18:58.42 | cbreak | you can't squeeze in many synergies with only 3 or 4 dps... |
| 18:59.02 | Seerah | Lunessa: did some elemental farming for the bank :) |
| 19:00.01 | Lunessa | yay! |
| 19:01.17 | Seerah | some crystallized ones need made into bigger ones now, too |
| 19:01.25 | Seerah | since I had leftovers |
| 19:02.16 | Seerah | See? I <3 farming. Just zone out and kill stuff, get what you need, get greens to DE or sell, and I made almost 40g in junk :) |
| 19:02.37 | Lunessa | Junk is where most of the cash sitting the guild bank came from. :) |
| 19:03.11 | Ackis | espn the only place for streaming of the world cup? |
| 19:04.07 | Amarande | cbreak: you know, I keep forgetting about synergies |
| 19:04.26 | Amarande | then I keep looking at my recount and wondering why I'm always doing such craptastic dps in 5-mans compared to what EJ always tells me I ought to be doing with (build) |
| 19:04.35 | Amarande | then I wonder wtf I'm doing wrong. |
| 19:04.51 | Amarande | granted, I guess I could use buff food and a flask, but I don't think those alone are going to make up thousands of DPS |
| 19:05.15 | cbreak | I don't care that much about my dps |
| 19:05.28 | cbreak | I just try to be good comopared to my team mates |
| 19:05.35 | Amarande | heh, high elf mistake 5 reminded me of arcanum |
| 19:05.36 | cbreak | so relative, not absolute |
| 19:05.58 | Amarande | where kerghan kidnapped the dwarves to do all kinds of tech in the void to make the magic sealing him out start failing :) |
| 19:10.53 | NightHawkTheSane | mmm.. korean for lunch |
| 19:11.06 | Thunder_Child | male or female? |
| 19:13.00 | NightHawkTheSane | its kind of hard to tell anymore |
| 19:14.04 | Dagmar | Maybe for you |
| 19:14.22 | Dagmar | pheromones don't lie. Trust the nose. |
| 19:14.28 | Amarande | so haste or crit on fire mage? |
| 19:14.34 | Amarande | I've seen arguments for both |
| 19:15.49 | Thunder_Child | crit |
| 19:15.54 | NightHawkTheSane | is this your level 30 mage? |
| 19:15.58 | Thunder_Child | haste is an arcane thing |
| 19:16.08 | Thunder_Child | well, crit for ffb anyway |
| 19:17.23 | Amarande | I've seen some FFB's who geared for haste |
| 19:17.30 | Amarande | though I wonder how much DPS they're losing by not having faith in the RNG |
| 19:17.35 | Amarande | (which apparently is why they choose haste) |
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| 19:18.53 | Thunder_Child | there is nothing more destructive than AB spam |
| 19:18.56 | NightHawkTheSane | this looks interesting: http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2010/06/introducing-google-command-line-tool.html |
| 19:19.08 | Thunder_Child | both on the target and your mana |
| 19:19.10 | MoonWitch | ooh |
| 19:23.10 | Amarande | oomin oomin oomin, keep those mages oomin, rawhide |
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| 19:35.55 | Adys | http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2010/06/introducing-google-command-line-tool.html |
| 19:36.01 | Adys | bah |
| 19:36.05 | Adys | screw you NHTS |
| 19:36.06 | Adys | :( |
| 19:36.10 | nicoli_s | ? |
| 19:36.33 | NightHawkTheSane | haha |
| 19:36.57 | NightHawkTheSane | welcome to 15 minutes ago, Adys :) |
| 19:37.33 | Dagmar | Hey it's not his fault he's canadian |
| 19:37.48 | NightHawkTheSane | are you SURE it's not his fault? can we blame him anyway? |
| 19:38.23 | Ackis | who's Canadian? |
| 19:39.41 | Adys | .. I'm not canadian |
| 19:39.52 | NightHawkTheSane | are you sure? |
| 19:39.54 | Lunessa | blame canada? |
| 19:39.57 | NightHawkTheSane | can we say you are anyway? |
| 19:40.06 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: Okay, I guess he has no excuse then. Carry on. |
| 19:40.13 | Dagmar | He's greasy |
| 19:40.20 | Ackis | Adys: you're Canadian? I didn't know |
| 19:40.28 | Adys | well now you do |
| 19:40.54 | Ackis | methinks it's another case of mistaken identify eh? |
| 19:41.16 | Ackis | U.S.S. WRENCHINSPROCKET |
| 19:43.39 | Dagmar | No, it was actually a somewhat long-term set-up, but he didn't respond early enough for the planned retort to still be funny |
| 19:44.28 | Dagmar | Ackis: And that right there is why we don't have steam ships in Azeroth |
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| 19:48.53 | Ackis | that's the name of a ship in star trek online |
| 19:49.56 | Dagmar | USS Winkerbean |
| 19:50.21 | Dagmar | ...although the game seemed highly interested in naming ships after sciency-types, like the Kepler |
| 19:52.26 | Ackis | I named my ship after my fiancee's online name, and I tell her that I'm coming aboard her everytime I play |
| 19:53.02 | Ackis | New announcement: http://www.wowace.com/announcements/point-generation-on-hold-and-new-features/ |
| 19:59.43 | Thunder_Child | thats dirty Ackis |
| 19:59.52 | Ackis | just how you like it |
| 20:00.17 | Thunder_Child | dont tempt me |
| 20:01.05 | Ackis | ;) |
| 20:06.21 | Fisker | wow Adys |
| 20:06.29 | Fisker | that would be useful if i used anything other than g-mail |
| 20:06.30 | Adys | wat |
| 20:06.40 | Fisker | GoogleCL |
| 20:06.44 | Adys | im already working on adding gmail support |
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| 20:25.13 | Torhal | Seerah|away: Looks good |
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| 20:26.08 | alestane | Good gods, moot has a talk on TED. |
| 20:27.47 | nicoli_s | nothing is funnier than sarah silverman's ted talk |
| 20:28.13 | nicoli_s | its the only time the guy running it has apologized for a speaker |
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| 20:35.57 | Ackis | ted? |
| 20:36.04 | alestane | ted.com |
| 20:36.54 | Dagmar | TED! |
| 20:36.54 | Ackis | interesting |
| 20:36.57 | Dagmar | Is good stuff! |
| 20:42.09 | mikma | NSFAMERICA! http://kuvaton.com/browse/15022/barack_obamas_signature_dirty_mind.jpg |
| 20:43.30 | Thunder_Child | well, he is black |
| 20:44.37 | Dagmar | Looks brown to me. |
| 20:45.38 | Thunder_Child | whats your contrast ratio? |
| 20:45.40 | nicoli_s | looks furen to me(which is a redneck pronunciation of foreign) |
| 20:49.46 | Thunder_Child | i so want to see this done http://kuvaton.com/browse/15015/how_to_handle_hipsters.jpg |
| 20:50.13 | Dagmar | *sigh*. No kuvaton allowed at wokr. |
| 20:50.30 | Dagmar | ...but, at least that means no kuvaton suprises at work. |
| 20:51.09 | mikma | haste: http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/regular_milk.jpg (nsfamerica) |
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| 20:58.01 | nicoli_s | wtf is that last one mikma, why cant silly foreigners speak english damnit! |
| 20:59.51 | mikma | regular milk |
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| 21:05.14 | NightHawkTheSane | so how about that world cup? |
| 21:06.39 | Trela | !vuvuzela |
| 21:06.53 | cogwheel | http://www.vuvuzela-time.co.uk/ |
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| 21:12.35 | foxlit | cogwheel: http://www.vuvuzela-time.co.uk/www.vuvuzela-time.co.uk/www.vuvuzela-time.co.uk/ ? |
| 21:14.19 | cogwheel | http://www.vuvuzela-time.co.uk/www.vuvuzela-time.co.uk/www.vuvuzela-time.co.uk/www.vuvuzela-time.co.uk/www.vuvuzela-time.co.uk/www.vuvuzela-time.co.uk/www.vuvuzela-time.co.uk/www.vuvuzela-time.co.uk/www.vuvuzela-time.co.uk/www.vuvuzela-time.co.uk/www.vuvuzela-time.co.uk/ |
| 21:17.41 | Thunder_Child | i always knew cog was a bot |
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| 21:22.24 | Kraps | http://store.steampowered.com/sale/ea_week |
| 21:23.06 | cogwheel | BEEP BEEP BOOP BOOPs at Thunder_Child |
| 21:24.24 | Thunder_Child | is vindicated |
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| 21:26.58 | Kraps | buying mirrors edge |
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| 21:38.39 | Lunessa | ... users ... HATE |
| 21:40.02 | malreth | USERS HATE ADMINS |
| 21:40.04 | malreth | ADMIN HATE USERS |
| 21:40.17 | malreth | ONE OUTNUMBERS THE OTHER |
| 21:41.01 | Dagmar | Ask me if admins have a problem with eliminating as many users as it takes... |
| 21:41.17 | Dagmar | Users == #1 threat to system stability |
| 21:41.18 | Thunder_Child | malreth: one has morepower |
| 21:41.21 | Thunder_Child | more power |
| 21:41.24 | Dagmar | Admin == #1 job duty is system stability |
| 21:41.27 | alestane | Dave Barry talked about his personal appearance on the show based on his columns, and his reaction to being referred to as "talent"...he said it reminded him of the way the computer industry uses the word "user". |
| 21:41.33 | alestane | It means "idiot." |
| 21:41.45 | Thunder_Child | Dagmar: thats #2 |
| 21:41.52 | Thunder_Child | #1 is BOFH |
| 21:41.54 | Lunessa | I just had a near-screaming match because this guy's account is restricted to single computer and he's furious about it. |
| 21:42.04 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:42.47 | alestane | He can only log into one machine at a time, or he can only log into one specific machine. |
| 21:42.56 | Lunessa | One specific machine. |
| 21:43.25 | Dagmar | "Requests for elevated access have to go through one's supervisor. Have a nice day. *clik*" |
| 21:44.20 | Lunessa | He's a PHD researcher who isn't registered for classes here. So he doesn't have a student computer account. The department sponsoring his research authorized an account for him on the staff domain, but listed only one computer. He was furious that I wouldn't just add "All Lab Computers" to his account on his say so. |
| 21:44.36 | Dagmar | You could also tell him that if he has a problem with his single-maching access that you'll happily remove it. |
| 21:45.09 | Lunessa | He was abusing my front desk staff until I went up there and explained it to him 5 times. |
| 21:45.47 | alestane | And he hasn't yet realized that if he were responsible for a territory and you let someone else into it without asking him on their say-so alone, he'd be furious with you. |
| 21:46.00 | Dagmar | Yep, defintely time to tell him that you can only remove access without approval from upper management. |
| 21:46.12 | alestane | Or he doesn't care, because he's allowed to be furious about trespass against HIM. |
| 21:46.34 | Lunessa | he's mad because all he wants access and he's not getting it and because he's a non-standard case and people are half-assing his support. |
| 21:46.51 | Lunessa | He's got a valid complaint. He's just venting it at the wrong guy (to wit, me). |
| 21:47.11 | Dagmar | Make that clear to him by removing the access he found to be incorrect. |
| 21:48.56 | Lunessa | I told him what the department sponsoring him needs to do and sent him on his angry way. If he does give me more trouble... 8wham* |
| 21:50.48 | Dagmar | YAY BANHAMMER! |
| 21:51.58 | nicoli_s | heh, it took my school 3 weeks to move everyone's email to the new system, how awesome |
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| 22:11.55 | MoonWitch | anyone well acquainted with Windows 7 |
| 22:13.24 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 22:13.41 | MoonWitch | ok, on the desktop - Home group was created. Worked fine |
| 22:14.15 | MoonWitch | on the laptop i joined the homegroup. I copied files (with the desktop) from desktop to laptop .. couldn´t delete them afterwards on the laptop |
| 22:14.39 | MoonWitch | I get an error about HomeUser$ permission |
| 22:14.49 | MoonWitch | I don't see any reason for it.. |
| 22:14.54 | Thunder_Child | where did you copy them from/to? |
| 22:15.02 | MoonWitch | desktop to laptop |
| 22:15.18 | Thunder_Child | i mean on the systems |
| 22:15.23 | Thunder_Child | were both places public |
| 22:15.25 | MoonWitch | no |
| 22:15.38 | MoonWitch | both were fully shared though (Full Control) |
| 22:16.02 | Thunder_Child | i assume then that the desktop still has ownership of the files |
| 22:16.15 | MoonWitch | I tried that too :*( |
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| 22:16.21 | MoonWitch | so I googled my ass off |
| 22:16.27 | Thunder_Child | you took ownership? |
| 22:16.31 | MoonWitch | yep |
| 22:16.35 | MoonWitch | even then error appeared |
| 22:16.51 | Thunder_Child | did you remove the desktop for the users list? |
| 22:16.58 | Thunder_Child | tey unsharing the folser it's it |
| 22:17.00 | Thunder_Child | try* |
| 22:17.04 | Thunder_Child | folder* |
| 22:17.10 | Thunder_Child | from* |
| 22:17.17 | Thunder_Child | man i am sucking more than usual |
| 22:17.36 | MoonWitch | so I googled my ass off - apparently it's a common issue (whatever) - tried to leave the homegroup on both pc's ... Now the freaking laptop can't LEAVE the homegroup or view/change a password |
| 22:17.37 | MoonWitch | :( |
| 22:18.17 | NightHawkTheSane | yay windows! |
| 22:18.30 | Thunder_Child | hmm...sorry, but thats not an issue i have come across |
| 22:18.55 | MoonWitch | I am literally contemplating reinstalling windows |
| 22:19.01 | MoonWitch | or just fucking erasing it |
| 22:19.36 | nevcairiel | see, thats why i just disabled the homgroup and use old fashioned user authentication for network |
| 22:19.50 | MoonWitch | yeah I was going to go for that one |
| 22:19.54 | MoonWitch | sadly now I can't |
| 22:19.54 | Fisker | so how can it be nevcairiel ? |
| 22:23.13 | Dagmar | Diable all network filesharing. Reboot. Kick the Network Sharing Wizard in the face. Click buttons until worky |
| 22:23.49 | Dagmar | ...or, do the sensible goddamn thing and shove some disks into a Linux box and set up a samba server. |
| 22:23.51 | nevcairiel | just turn off the homegroup services |
| 22:24.03 | nevcairiel | was the only way to get the damn option out of my explorer sidebar =P |
| 22:24.05 | MoonWitch | dagmar, that's what I am leaning towards yes |
| 22:24.11 | MoonWitch | really? |
| 22:24.37 | Dagmar | Their homegroup stuff apparently shipped out the door before it stopped sucking |
| 22:24.40 | nevcairiel | even when you're not in a homegroup, it insists on showing it in the explorere sidebar |
| 22:25.04 | nevcairiel | same for libraries, i dont use those things, but there is no way to just remove them from the sidebar :( |
| 22:25.43 | MoonWitch | yeah I'd like to figure that one out too |
| 22:25.56 | nevcairiel | hrm why does it think i'm on a public network now |
| 22:26.26 | nevcairiel | ah that was a vmware connection |
| 22:26.28 | nevcairiel | disables |
| 22:26.36 | MoonWitch | well i can honestly say -- my homegroup services ARE disabled |
| 22:26.40 | MoonWitch | still no dice |
| 22:26.49 | MoonWitch | I'll go DL a random distro |
| 22:26.52 | MoonWitch | any pointers? |
| 22:27.01 | MoonWitch | I'm in the mood for something wild |
| 22:28.53 | Dagmar | Little Timmy Linux |
| 22:29.12 | Dagmar | There's also Ubuntu |
| 22:30.44 | MoonWitch | http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/580-libraries-pin-unpin-navigation-pane.html |
| 22:31.27 | Fisker | kill'd Dagmar |
| 22:31.59 | nevcairiel | even when i hide all entries, the main entry still remains |
| 22:32.46 | nevcairiel | at least i dont have that many drives in this box, so the list is short enough that it doesnt bother me much anymore |
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| 22:44.16 | cbreak | Get slax |
| 22:47.11 | cogwheel | "Any fool can write code that a computer can understand. Good programmers write code that humans can understand." - Martin Fowler |
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| 22:49.20 | MoonWitch | hahahaha |
| 22:49.36 | MoonWitch | " Reboot and select a proper boot device" |
| 22:50.07 | miica | then there is those coders who write fast code which aint always so redable :o |
| 22:50.40 | nevcairiel | If you dont even have time to use a proper name for your variables, you really shouldnt be coding |
| 22:55.57 | MoonWitch | i am tired |
| 22:56.11 | MoonWitch | i'll think i'll just go to bed and dream of Cairenn |
| 22:56.16 | MoonWitch | nite nite folks |
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| 23:38.04 | MoonWitch | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:38.10 | MoonWitch | windows issue has been solved |
| 23:46.37 | Dagmar | Man I'd love to view OpenDNS's system status page but... OpenDNS is effing up |
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