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| 00:01.02 | Kraps | cool |
| 00:01.57 | Kraps | durcyn: do you do that every site you visit hoping something will happen? :p |
| 00:03.03 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: Drink heavily for me too. |
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| 00:03.56 | Kraps | are booksfree and bookswim the only "bookflix" sites out there? |
| 00:05.29 | WobWork | bookflix? |
| 00:05.41 | Kraps | netflix for books |
| 00:05.58 | WobWork | you -rent- the books? |
| 00:06.12 | Kraps | yup |
| 00:06.35 | Kraps | http://www.booksfree.com/ |
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| 00:07.48 | theorbtwo | Hm. Plenty of free services for that sort of thing. Mostly, they seemed not worth the effort. |
| 00:07.58 | Kraps | link? |
| 00:08.22 | theorbtwo | http://www.bookcrossing.com/ |
| 00:08.36 | theorbtwo | http://bookmooch.com/ |
| 00:08.57 | theorbtwo | Hm, there's a third one I've looked at that I'm not thinking of now. |
| 00:10.13 | Kraps | theorbtwo: i dont have books to give away... |
| 00:10.29 | Thunder_Child | i buy books to keep....always |
| 00:10.50 | Cide | well do you read them always? |
| 00:10.56 | theorbtwo | I end up buying a lot of books I know I won't keep reading... but it's hard to pick which ones to get rid of. |
| 00:10.58 | Cide | or only once? |
| 00:11.05 | theorbtwo | ...and harder to go to a lot of effort to get rid of them. |
| 00:11.44 | WobWork | I don't get rid of physical books |
| 00:11.54 | WobWork | it's too ingrained in me not to throw them away |
| 00:12.10 | WobWork | but I usually get a lot of re-readability out of them |
| 00:12.21 | theorbtwo | I'd never *throw away* a book. |
| 00:12.25 | Kraps | thats why renting was invented Cide theorbtwo |
| 00:12.34 | theorbtwo | Well, also, why libraries were. |
| 00:12.36 | Cide | that's my whole poin |
| 00:12.38 | Cide | point |
| 00:13.03 | WobWork | well |
| 00:13.13 | WobWork | depending on if you want to purchase the book |
| 00:13.22 | WobWork | there are other places to get books |
| 00:14.12 | Fisker | WobWork |
| 00:14.14 | Thunder_Child | Cide: i reread books |
| 00:14.21 | Kraps | theorbtwo: netflix is theoretically an unlimited resource |
| 00:14.30 | Kraps | unlike libraries |
| 00:14.52 | theorbtwo | I reread books too... but not terribly often, and I could reaquire them, if I had some confidence. |
| 00:15.30 | Thunder_Child | i read a lot, i have ~400 books and i mange to re-read quite a bit. but then i am not always buying new ones |
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| 00:16.33 | Fisker | so anyone figured out wtf the curse client g15/g19 support plugin is for? |
| 00:16.51 | awweaver | To tell you to update your shit |
| 00:16.57 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: i dont reread that much, and i dont have room for ~400 :/ |
| 00:16.57 | Amarande | I'm a Warder of the Brown Ajah at the Wheel of Time site I'm at. Throwing away books would probably get me beaten silly with pillows or something. :| |
| 00:17.10 | awweaver | it tells you that you have addon updates |
| 00:18.14 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: neither do i tbh, my garage has boxes worth, i can only fit 25-300 in by room. and 'fit' is pushing it, |
| 00:18.20 | Thunder_Child | 250* |
| 00:18.23 | Thunder_Child | my* |
| 00:18.28 | Thunder_Child | ~fail Thunder_Child |
| 00:18.29 | purl | Thunder_Child, you Fail! |
| 00:19.09 | awweaver | ..... |
| 00:19.50 | Fisker | why the fuck should i care then? i has autoupdates anyway |
| 00:22.46 | Kraps | anyone seen http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/lost_boys/ |
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| 00:24.39 | Lopeppeppy | Um... of course I have, Kraps! |
| 00:25.10 | Kraps | ... |
| 00:25.24 | Lopeppeppy | Old movie is very old. |
| 00:25.28 | WobWork | Kraps: a loooong time ago |
| 00:25.29 | Kraps | yes |
| 00:25.34 | Kraps | ah k |
| 00:25.40 | WobWork | the Coreys were in it |
| 00:25.46 | alestane | The original "hokey teen vampire movie." |
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| 00:25.54 | Lopeppeppy | Hilarious, awesome fun. |
| 00:25.59 | WobWork | That's where I first heard that awesome car horn |
| 00:26.08 | Lopeppeppy | Although the dog is pretty spiffy. I like the dog. |
| 00:26.32 | WobWork | host to some of the most heart affirming scenes in movie history |
| 00:26.41 | WobWork | like when he used the pizza box to shield the guy from bullets |
| 00:26.49 | WobWork | or was that the goonies? |
| 00:26.55 | Lopeppeppy | I think that was goonies. |
| 00:27.00 | WobWork | It's all a blur =P |
| 00:27.49 | alestane | That sounds more like Goonies, but I never saw that all the way through. |
| 00:28.05 | Lopeppeppy | not so many guns in the vampire movie |
| 00:31.20 | Kraps | bookswim.com has a higher alexa ranking than booksfree but has a much smaller selection, at least in the fantasy section |
| 00:33.11 | Kraps | which is all we care about anyway right? |
| 00:34.12 | Thunder_Child | sci-fi > fantasy for me tbh |
| 00:34.23 | WobWork | I usually buy the books before getting them electronically |
| 00:34.26 | Fisker | btw |
| 00:34.31 | Fisker | new Blizzard mmo on Blizzcon? |
| 00:34.33 | WobWork | so the source of the electronic version doesn't bother me as much |
| 00:34.43 | WobWork | Fisker: would be nice |
| 00:35.02 | WobWork | consequently, I have access to quite a large range of books electronically |
| 00:35.25 | Kraps | source? |
| 00:35.38 | WobWork | I don't pay for the electronic version =P |
| 00:36.05 | Kraps | heh |
| 00:36.09 | Kraps | bbl |
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| 00:58.08 | Amarande | dammit |
| 00:58.14 | Amarande | nothing like thinking you afk'd in a safe spot |
| 00:58.18 | Amarande | then coming back to find everything's gone gray |
| 01:01.00 | Tuller | watching the ubisoft e3 demo is like watching a trainwreck |
| 01:01.30 | Fisker | no shit |
| 01:01.33 | Amarande | heh, does ubisoft even have any good games coming out anymore? |
| 01:01.40 | Fisker | not really |
| 01:01.43 | Amarande | maybe their new online-only DRM isn't so bad if they only have shitty games |
| 01:01.44 | Fisker | And they made some kind of laser tag |
| 01:01.49 | Fisker | i seriously wtf'd |
| 01:01.55 | Fisker | it was fucked up |
| 01:03.10 | Thunder_Child | lol http://www.borowitzreport.com/2010/06/07/tiger-at-least-i-didnt-fuck-the-entire-gulf-of-mexico/ |
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| 01:06.41 | Tuller | right now, they've got assassin's creed 2: part 2 |
| 01:07.01 | Tuller | but i've yet to manage to feel like finishing the first one of that branch |
| 01:08.30 | Amarande | I think it's time for the rise of independent game devs again |
| 01:08.40 | Amarande | these corporate ones keep churning out garbage lately |
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| 01:08.57 | Fisker | oh my god |
| 01:09.07 | Fisker | they fucking managed to make Splinter Cell: Conviction EVEN EASIER |
| 01:09.21 | Fisker | permanent invisibility with an AI stupid as shit? |
| 01:09.22 | Fisker | WHAT |
| 01:09.22 | Fisker | THE |
| 01:09.23 | Fisker | FUCK |
| 01:09.46 | cogwheel | NO |
| 01:09.47 | cogwheel | U |
| 01:09.53 | Fisker | WTF cogwheel |
| 01:10.00 | Amarande | heh, I have quests called "Ormer's Revenge" and "Sven's Revenge" |
| 01:10.04 | Fisker | disagree at your own peril |
| 01:10.05 | Amarande | alliance people sure love their revenge :| |
| 01:10.27 | cogwheel | yeah... humans are dumb like that -_- |
| 01:11.17 | Amarande | also this elekk doesn't feel like it actually boosts my speed by 60% |
| 01:11.21 | Amarande | I think I was ripped off |
| 01:11.24 | Amarande | stupid slow elephant |
| 01:11.26 | Amarande | :| |
| 01:11.31 | Fisker | agree with me cogwheel |
| 01:11.56 | alestane | "We've got other stuff, you know...lattes, mochas, Dora's special wasabi americano..." |
| 01:12.18 | Thunder_Child | err...ew? |
| 01:12.55 | Lunessa | needs foods. |
| 01:13.22 | Fisker | omg massive fucking win Thunder_Child |
| 01:13.56 | cogwheel | that actually sounds good |
| 01:15.32 | cogwheel | alestane: it would be instant wake-up, and then an added caffeine boost for long-term effectiveness. Like Pepcid Complete |
| 01:15.36 | Tuller | well, activision is remaking goldeneye |
| 01:16.17 | cogwheel | platform? pc? both? |
| 01:16.19 | alestane | Getting the flavors to cooperate right would take some work, I think. |
| 01:16.41 | Fisker | PC or gtfo cogwheel |
| 01:17.24 | Lunessa | Tuller: SLAPPERS ONLY! |
| 01:17.35 | cogwheel | damn now i want to try it... i bet Mikina wouldn't mind some avocado maki tomorrow :> |
| 01:17.38 | Fisker | slaps Lunessa around a bit with a large trout |
| 01:17.38 | Tuller | wii |
| 01:18.13 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:18.17 | Fisker | fuck activision |
| 01:18.18 | Fisker | to hell |
| 01:18.27 | Fisker | they're the cancer killing gaming |
| 01:20.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Fisker: hissy fit harder, i can hardly hear your nerd rage from here. |
| 01:20.36 | Tuller | well, activision is kindof shooting themselves in the foot, slowly |
| 01:20.53 | alestane | You notice how everything has a "cancer slowly killing it" if you ask enough people? |
| 01:20.57 | cogwheel | alestane: fwiw, i've always had a vivid flavor imagination. Sometimes it's annoying though. people describe a food to me and it's like a spoiler -_- |
| 01:21.10 | Amarande | corporate game developers are the cancer slowly killing gaming. |
| 01:21.24 | Tuller | though they have the money train that is wow still :P |
| 01:21.26 | Amarande | It stops being about making a great game, and instead about making a game people will buy, which is never the same thing. |
| 01:21.37 | NightHawkTheSane | there is no cancer killing gaming. it's a meme people use to absolve themselves of responsibility. |
| 01:22.15 | alestane | I did enjoy the "Dark & Stormy Night" at my wife's aunt&uncle's 45th anniversary. Dark rum & ginger beer. |
| 01:22.28 | NightHawkTheSane | alestane: oh man, that sounds delicious. |
| 01:22.31 | Tuller | I think the last activision game I bought was uhh... |
| 01:22.55 | alestane | The combination of sweet and spicy was definitely something. |
| 01:23.30 | cogwheel | i can't link this enough (for my own self-interest... i don't want them to stop making it) http://molotov-energy.com/ |
| 01:23.43 | Tuller | well, starcraft 2 counts :P |
| 01:23.51 | cogwheel | the pineapple & tapatio is uber nom |
| 01:23.57 | cogwheel | should switch to int'l keyboard |
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| 01:24.31 | alestane | I guess it's just called a Dark 'n ' Stormy. |
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| 01:24.57 | NightHawkTheSane | cogwheel: la only? :( |
| 01:25.11 | cogwheel | no i think that's just the only place they have a list |
| 01:25.13 | alestane | And to call it that you're supposed to make it with Gosling's Black Seal, because they published the recipe. |
| 01:25.23 | cogwheel | they have 'em up here in Sonoma county |
| 01:25.29 | cogwheel | though they may indeed be limited to CA |
| 01:25.36 | NightHawkTheSane | maybe |
| 01:25.43 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont recall seeing them around here (seattle) |
| 01:25.58 | cogwheel | http://gogirlstore.com/molotov-energy-drink-sampler.html |
| 01:26.17 | cogwheel | i've been meaning to try GoGirl but Mikina keeps making fun of me :P |
| 01:26.23 | NightHawkTheSane | oh neat |
| 01:27.05 | cogwheel | i've tried all of them. they're all really good, and not just for energy drinks |
| 01:27.06 | Shirik | ew |
| 01:27.07 | Shirik | kd3 |
| 01:27.09 | Tuller | i really cannot think of any non blizzard activision game I've bought since guitar hero, fun times |
| 01:27.09 | alestane | One part rum, two parts ginger beer, over the rocks, with a squeezed lime wedge. |
| 01:27.20 | cogwheel | and they make good cocktails ;) |
| 01:27.20 | Jamash | Tuller: Not even Valve? |
| 01:27.22 | Shirik | you allow style="position:absolute" on wowwiki? |
| 01:27.38 | cogwheel | i suggested they do a lime flavored one... perhaps lime & mint |
| 01:28.53 | alestane | "As far as pathogens go, friendship is pretty okay. |
| 01:29.24 | Tuller | Jamash: Valve isn't part of activision/blizzard from what i'm aware |
| 01:29.38 | Lunessa | cogwheel: Most "energy drinks" taste like goddamned pixie stix. |
| 01:29.44 | cogwheel | yeah... there are far worse ones (esp stds like pregnancy). |
| 01:29.47 | Fisker | haha |
| 01:29.53 | cogwheel | Lunessa: which is EXACTLY what makes these ones so amazing |
| 01:29.54 | Jamash | that's why I'm asking, you haven't bought any valve games? |
| 01:29.58 | Fisker | that was the fucking crowning piece of shit on their shitpile of a conference |
| 01:30.10 | cogwheel | they're sweet, to be sure, but the flavors aren't nearly as contrived |
| 01:30.36 | Fisker | alestane Activision is the cancer killing gaming |
| 01:30.48 | Tuller | Jamash: orange box, I think |
| 01:30.55 | cogwheel | it's like taking the juice from a pineapple can and mixing it with soda water in a good way |
| 01:31.03 | alestane | Speaking of drink recipes: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1148 |
| 01:31.07 | Fisker | unless like they're only allowed to make goldeneye games on nintendo platforms |
| 01:31.19 | cogwheel | s/ good/, good/ |
| 01:31.25 | cogwheel | err |
| 01:31.28 | cogwheel | whatever |
| 01:31.31 | cogwheel | ~fail cogwheel |
| 01:31.32 | purl | cogwheel: FAIL! |
| 01:31.33 | Tuller | Jamash: I'm confused by the point you're trying to make :P |
| 01:31.53 | Jamash | oh nvm |
| 01:31.53 | WobWork | Fisker: I was completely unimpressed by everything I saw in that conference =P |
| 01:32.02 | Jamash | I misunderstood your earlier comment |
| 01:32.11 | Fisker | not completely |
| 01:32.17 | Fisker | Trackmania 2 is okish maybe |
| 01:32.28 | Fisker | I was about to go "Well atleast they ended in style" |
| 01:32.36 | WobWork | Antiarc: Crysis comparison: http://i.imgur.com/T7YI8.jpg |
| 01:32.40 | Fisker | Then they threw in that abommination of a display just after that |
| 01:34.44 | Tuller | kinect is still a three year train wreck :P |
| 01:35.10 | Jamash | I'm waiting for the hilarious youtube videos of someone playing all three motion control systems at once |
| 01:36.47 | Tuller | add in a full on rockband setup, and we've got a winner |
| 01:39.47 | Shirik | hahahahaha |
| 01:39.51 | Shirik | how to force someone to accept a trade: |
| 01:40.01 | Shirik | Convince them to type /script t = {65, 99, 99, 101, 112, 116, 84, 114, 97, 100, 101}; s = ""; for k,v in ipairs(t) do s = s .. string.char(v) end; _G[s]() |
| 01:40.50 | Shirik | (no I'm not rude, he just wouldn't let me pay him a tip) |
| 01:41.41 | WobWork | lua> t = {65, 99, 99, 101, 112, 116, 84, 114, 97, 100, 101}; s = ""; for k,v in ipairs(t) do s = s .. string.char(v) end; print(s); |
| 01:41.41 | lua_bot | WobWork: AcceptTrade |
| 01:41.46 | WobWork | terrible |
| 01:44.55 | Cide | somehow you got him to type that though |
| 01:45.15 | Shirik | yes |
| 01:45.19 | Shirik | I told him it was a really neat feature |
| 01:46.07 | alestane | lua> string.char(unpack{65, 99, 99, 101, 112, 116, 84, 114, 97, 100, 101}) |
| 01:46.07 | lua_bot | alestane: AcceptTrade |
| 01:46.21 | alestane | Table sort of superfluous there. |
| 01:47.01 | alestane | lua> string.char(65, 99, 99, 101, 112, 116, 84, 114, 97, 100, 101) |
| 01:47.02 | lua_bot | alestane: AcceptTrade |
| 01:47.16 | Cide | lua> "AcceptTrade" |
| 01:47.17 | lua_bot | Cide: AcceptTrade |
| 01:47.22 | Cide | I win |
| 01:48.22 | alestane | That "secret message" one was ridiculously obscure. |
| 01:56.06 | Jamash | so what happens when you're playing a Natal game and your cat jumps up on your coffee table |
| 01:56.29 | MentalPower|Work | a virtual cat appears on the screen of course |
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| 02:10.38 | Shirik | hey |
| 02:10.43 | Shirik | I'm sorry cide |
| 02:10.46 | Shirik | I had to write it up quickly |
| 02:10.50 | Shirik | before he got suspicious |
| 02:10.59 | Cide | you are forgiven |
| 02:11.09 | Cide | day9 live now btw |
| 02:12.12 | Shirik | day9? |
| 02:12.26 | Cide | awesome starcraft 2 commentary |
| 02:14.04 | Cide | (www.day9.tv) |
| 02:15.12 | Antiarc | Does WoW Lua have xor? |
| 02:15.19 | Cide | only in bit |
| 02:15.22 | Cide | bit.bxor I believe |
| 02:15.29 | Antiarc | So it does, neat |
| 02:15.41 | Antiarc | My Lua binary doesn't have it |
| 02:15.48 | cogwheel | use mine :) |
| 02:15.51 | Cide | it's an external library |
| 02:15.55 | Antiarc | cogwheel: linkplz? |
| 02:15.58 | Cide | slouken added it some while ago |
| 02:16.05 | Cide | s/some/a long/ |
| 02:16.06 | cogwheel | inc |
| 02:16.24 | cogwheel | http://luaforge.net/projects/lua-wow/ |
| 02:16.28 | Antiarc | luaforge the latest? |
| 02:16.28 | Antiarc | Yay |
| 02:16.32 | Kraps | http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/06/14/david-yates-for-the-hobbit/ |
| 02:18.18 | Kraps | http://www.blogcdn.com/www.wow.com/media/2010/06/azss1354.jpg |
| 02:20.51 | Antiarc | s="AcceptTrade"; for i=1,#s do print(strchar(bit.bxor(strbyte(s,i), 255))) end |
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| 02:20.57 | Antiarc | There you go, there's some fun obfuscation :) |
| 02:21.40 | cogwheel | :) |
| 02:21.50 | Kraps | I recieved an email from "WOWbetaUS@blizzard.com" It said i was invited to the beta However when i click the link my computer tells me the site is a phishing site, can anyone from blizzard or someone who has been invited tell me if im being phished or if this is official?? |
| 02:22.01 | Jamash | now implement AES-256... in one line of Lua |
| 02:22.02 | Antiarc | Please tell me that's a quote |
| 02:22.04 | Kraps | motherfucker |
| 02:22.09 | Kraps | Antiarc: yes |
| 02:22.32 | Antiarc | Good, I was going to have to petition for your ejection from the channel due to terminal badness otherwise. :P |
| 02:22.40 | Antiarc | I just realized |
| 02:22.46 | Antiarc | I could implement a WoW authenticator inside of WoW |
| 02:22.50 | Antiarc | Dohohoh. |
| 02:22.53 | Shadowed | I like how you just realized this |
| 02:22.58 | Shadowed | wait |
| 02:23.02 | Shadowed | how the fuck |
| 02:23.13 | Shadowed | Are you planning on making a third party program to sync stuff |
| 02:23.14 | Lunessa | Kraps: The easiest way to tell if you're in or not is to check your Battle.net account and see if a new game was added. |
| 02:23.22 | Antiarc | What do you need to sync? |
| 02:23.44 | Antiarc | It's just the modulus of an hmac sha1 hash, where the inputs are system time and the token secret |
| 02:23.46 | Shadowed | hm |
| 02:23.47 | Xinhuan | kraps, just read the address bar on the browser lol |
| 02:24.00 | Antiarc | My codes, let me show you them |
| 02:24.06 | Kraps | Lunessa: thats what Zarhym said |
| 02:24.08 | Xinhuan | if its not battle.net, its a scam |
| 02:24.33 | Antiarc | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:24.40 | Antiarc | It's friggin' java, but you get the gist |
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| 02:27.21 | Mikina_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:27.29 | Antiarc | WELP. |
| 02:27.33 | Xinhuan | nods at Mikina_ |
| 02:27.48 | Xinhuan | bad choice of password :P |
| 02:27.53 | Antiarc | Good thing that when you type your password in IRC it always shows as asterisks |
| 02:27.57 | Antiarc | Like this: ********** |
| 02:28.34 | A-KO | lol |
| 02:28.57 | Torhal | ... |
| 02:29.07 | Lunessa | AnT14rcIzJ34k |
| 02:29.20 | durcyn | that's not even valid leet. |
| 02:29.25 | Jamash | jeak? |
| 02:29.42 | Xinhuan | what leet has grammar rules? |
| 02:29.57 | A-KO | /msg nickserv pass 4n1m4l |
| 02:30.02 | cogwheel | fixed it |
| 02:30.02 | Lunessa | goes to change his IRC password |
| 02:30.04 | cogwheel | my bad |
| 02:30.32 | Shadowed | My IRC password is a the binary representation that is then rot13 of a picture of my eye |
| 02:30.33 | cogwheel | i pointed out her tail and gave her the command... accidentally got an extra space in there >< |
| 02:30.35 | Shadowed | just to be secure |
| 02:31.13 | Lunessa | Shadowed: Did you then RSA encrypt the rot13'ed file? |
| 02:32.11 | Jamash | my IRC password is the first twenty digits of Chaitin's constant |
| 02:32.23 | Shadowed | No I'm not stupid Lunessa |
| 02:32.32 | Shadowed | I store it with a carrier pigeon |
| 02:33.04 | Lunessa | people in my office are looking at me funny 'cause I'm laughing so hard. |
| 02:34.35 | Antiarc | Um |
| 02:34.41 | Antiarc | rot13 binary? Really? |
| 02:34.50 | Shadowed | EXTRA SECURITY |
| 02:35.02 | Antiarc | but that makes no sense |
| 02:35.16 | Antiarc | I guess it's effectively a XOR |
| 02:35.18 | Shadowed | That's what makes it so secure |
| 02:35.23 | Antiarc | Since the keyspace is 2 bits |
| 02:38.03 | Kraps | nerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrds |
| 02:41.01 | WobWork | Antiarc: why implement the authenticator -inside- WoW? |
| 02:44.19 | WobWork | isn't that like locking the key inside the car? =P |
| 02:45.15 | WobWork | however, a client so I can copypaste the code into my login would be good |
| 02:45.24 | WobWork | since I'm the only one with access to my computer |
| 02:46.50 | Antiarc | WobWork: Mostly just because I can |
| 02:47.04 | Antiarc | WobWork: That's doable, but I refuse to publish the means to do it because it would be abused by stupid people |
| 02:47.15 | Antiarc | And then they would get haxed and blame me |
| 02:48.09 | WobWork | eh, don't expect you to publish =) |
| 02:48.18 | WobWork | just write it if it's of use to you |
| 02:48.28 | WobWork | then sekritly hand it out to the channel |
| 02:48.59 | Dagmar | Oh yes, that's a GREAT idea |
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| 02:49.25 | Dagmar | Discussing a vulnerable one-off in a logged IRC channel and painting big shiny targets on your heads for the goldfarmers out there |
| 02:49.37 | WobWork | hehe |
| 02:49.59 | WobWork | I have faith in my security |
| 02:50.06 | WobWork | especially since I'm chatting from work =P |
| 02:50.08 | Dagmar | I have faith in criminal enterprises |
| 02:50.45 | Dagmar | Same pragma straight from the 90's... Given sufficient motivation and time to prepare, a dedicated and skilled hacker WILL get in, no matter what |
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| 02:51.05 | WobWork | oh naturally |
| 02:51.24 | Dagmar | It's part of why no computer security model is complete without both prevention and detection mechanisms in place |
| 02:51.40 | WobWork | but if they hack into my system enough to run a program on my computer in order to generate a security key so they can log into my account |
| 02:51.53 | WobWork | I'm already in trouble, even before they start selling gold =P |
| 02:52.04 | Cairenn | hands Dagmar an umbrella |
| 02:52.07 | Dagmar | ...then they can get a keylogger in there to possibly ship out something infected in the next addon published as well, just for the coup |
| 02:52.29 | Dagmar | Two-factor authentication requires airgap, virtually by definiiton |
| 02:54.42 | Dagmar | The lazy bastard in me wonders if there would be any time eventually saved by coding such a thing into wow over say...doing what I did and velcroing the damn thing to the edge of the shelf just above your monitor. |
| 02:55.25 | WobWork | well, I have a mobile authenticator |
| 02:55.30 | WobWork | which takes time to load up |
| 02:55.43 | WobWork | (except when I preload it with Backgrounder) |
| 02:56.00 | Lunessa | People won't be happy until they have to piss in a jar, retina scan, and give a blood sample to be "secure" online. |
| 02:56.05 | Dagmar | Yeah I noticed that when I was playing with someone's iPhone a few days ago |
| 02:56.24 | WobWork | but really, if someone steals my iphone |
| 02:56.27 | Dagmar | I expected less of a start-up cost than that on an iPhone |
| 02:56.29 | WobWork | I'll just lock it =P |
| 02:56.47 | WobWork | Dagmar: I want more RAM on my iphone =( |
| 02:57.06 | WobWork | I can't background my ebook reader and more than one app at a time easily =( |
| 02:57.21 | WobWork | nor can I open large books after a certain point |
| 02:57.24 | WobWork | which sucks |
| 02:57.26 | MentalPower | I don't like the mobile auth, just cause in my iPhone experience, mine needs a software reload at the most innoportune times |
| 02:57.44 | WobWork | software reload? |
| 02:57.45 | MentalPower | 3g or 3gs? |
| 02:57.51 | Lunessa | I use a hardware authenticator - if I lose that, I have some minor inconvenience ahead. If I lose my iPhone and it has the mobile authenticator - the hacker has all my e-mail accounts and my authenticator. |
| 02:57.58 | WobWork | 3g |
| 02:58.13 | MentalPower | reinstall, format, reload |
| 02:58.26 | WobWork | Lunessa: that's why I have the remotelock ability |
| 02:58.30 | MentalPower | looking forward to the iPhone 4 |
| 02:58.43 | WobWork | MentalPower: how often do you need to do that? |
| 02:58.55 | MentalPower | one every couple of months |
| 02:59.04 | MentalPower | especially if its jailbroken |
| 02:59.09 | Antiarc | I think the startup time issue is because it's performing a time sync to the Blizzard servers |
| 02:59.13 | MentalPower | vanilla seems to last longer |
| 02:59.27 | WobWork | I haven't had to do that for a while now |
| 02:59.29 | Antiarc | (I get around that by storing the last sync value, and doing an asynchronous time sync, sacrificing a little accuracy for faster response) |
| 02:59.33 | WobWork | since they're waiting for 4 |
| 02:59.50 | Dagmar | Lunessa: If we're needing all those things, WoW has likely become real life-or-death combat |
| 03:00.10 | Dagmar | ...or some form of ritual territorial control, like if you lose, China gets your house for the year |
| 03:00.14 | Antiarc | Lunessa: If you can keep a copy of your token secret, you can generate token codes from other platforms, perhaps for the purpose of deauthorizing your authenticator |
| 03:00.24 | Antiarc | If I lost my phone, I could remove the authenticator from my account without any hassle :) |
| 03:00.29 | MentalPower | WobWork: not in the sense of waiting for jailbreaks, but rather it just becomes unresponsive or just plain crashes and refuses to boot |
| 03:00.59 | WobWork | MentalPower: hm, never really had that problem |
| 03:00.59 | MentalPower | Antiarc: rly? |
| 03:01.08 | Antiarc | MentalPower: Yup. |
| 03:01.16 | Antiarc | I wrote an authenticator app that gives me access to the token secret |
| 03:01.22 | Antiarc | So I can generate auth codes from ruby or whatever |
| 03:01.25 | Antiarc | Or from my android emulator |
| 03:01.27 | MentalPower | Antiarc: didn't know you could do that |
| 03:01.39 | Antiarc | If you have an Android phone, look for FlexAuth in the market |
| 03:01.44 | MentalPower | only with the mobile auth I guess |
| 03:01.49 | Dagmar | FlexAuth == win |
| 03:01.49 | Antiarc | Yeah |
| 03:01.58 | Antiarc | The hardware auths are a different algorithm |
| 03:02.08 | MentalPower | diff length too |
| 03:02.13 | Antiarc | http://androidapplications.com/50953-flexauth |
| 03:02.15 | MentalPower | is the algo public somewhere? |
| 03:02.26 | Dagmar | The one FlexAuth uses actually is RFC'd |
| 03:02.28 | Antiarc | http://bnetauth.freeportal.us/ |
| 03:02.40 | Antiarc | The mobile auth uses an HMAC-SHA1 hash of the token secret + current time |
| 03:02.49 | Antiarc | That's the document I worked from |
| 03:02.52 | Dagmar | lol I like how Antiarc's name is in the screenshot on the site |
| 03:03.06 | Antiarc | It's because that's my phone I took the screenshot from :V |
| 03:03.11 | Dagmar | Ah |
| 03:03.34 | Dagmar | I still feel like a sap I dind't catch the news that they had put that RFC out there |
| 03:03.43 | Dagmar | I've already started changing my port knocker |
| 03:03.51 | Antiarc | Blizzard didn't write the RFC, just used it |
| 03:03.58 | Amarande | yay, 213g and I'm not even level 30 on my first character on this server |
| 03:04.00 | Dagmar | I know Blizzard didn't write the RFC. Pfft |
| 03:04.03 | Lunessa | Antiarc: Sweet. |
| 03:04.26 | Amarande | no, RFC was designed by Ubisoft ... that's why it's so boring :) |
| 03:04.37 | Dagmar | Hah |
| 03:05.02 | Kraps | http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/14/technology/internet/14burger.html |
| 03:05.07 | Kraps | oooolllld |
| 03:05.31 | Shirik | ok guys |
| 03:05.32 | Shirik | here's a fun question |
| 03:05.40 | Shirik | I need to use some frost badges to get my gear in order |
| 03:05.43 | Shirik | I have two possibilities |
| 03:05.53 | Corrodias2 | spend it on hookers and blow |
| 03:05.59 | Shirik | replacing a trinket is probably the biggest benefit I can get right now |
| 03:06.18 | Shirik | however, the fact that everyone else in guild is pretty decked out means that I have basically my pick of the crop when it comes to drops |
| 03:06.24 | Shirik | which means I could replace it very quickly |
| 03:06.31 | Shirik | on the other hand, the belt is BiS |
| 03:06.33 | Lunessa | SO I'm going to send my systems report to which I usually append something funny or that is social commentary or both... tonight I'm putting "All systems are green, unlike the gulf coast, where brown sludge is the order of the day." |
| 03:06.45 | Shirik | however, my belt is decent currently |
| 03:06.47 | Shirik | not great |
| 03:06.49 | Shirik | but ok |
| 03:06.54 | Shirik | which way do you go |
| 03:07.23 | Shirik | where is my cide to help me decide |
| 03:07.27 | Dagmar | Lunessa: Good shot |
| 03:07.31 | Cide | here |
| 03:07.38 | WobWork | Shirik: buy the belt if it's bis |
| 03:07.51 | WobWork | or buy primordial saronite to make other stuff |
| 03:08.04 | WobWork | for crafted gear |
| 03:08.35 | WobWork | since you're getting free pick, you get the belt, cause you'll get it eventually anyway |
| 03:08.48 | WobWork | then as you build up your badges again, you'll pick up gear, and you can then fill in the gaps |
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| 03:09.37 | Cide | shirik: my suggestion is to go with WobWork's suggestion |
| 03:11.13 | Amarande | so is the loot in RS going to be equal to or worse than ICC? |
| 03:11.43 | Dagmar | The last boss will drop summonable Lich King trinkets. |
| 03:13.08 | Dagmar | "Use: Summons the Lich King to pwn entire armies on your behalf for the next 60 seconds. Unuseable in Arenas or Battlegrounds." |
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| 03:15.21 | Kraps | ^ |
| 03:15.55 | Arrowmaster | fucking power went out for a few seconds from a damn storm |
| 03:16.26 | Jerub | tanked 2 bosses of nexus last night in my healer gear agian :( |
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| 03:19.51 | Kraps | lul |
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| 03:23.15 | Amarande | and will someone tell me why the heck darnassus requires you be 10 levels higher to tele/portal than any of the other alliance cities? |
| 03:24.05 | Lunessa | because Night Elves think you smell bad, and they don't want your sorry ass hanging out there. |
| 03:25.49 | Amarande | but we're draenei and oh so lovely and in the LIGHT and all |
| 03:26.09 | Amarande | well, at least female draenei are lovely |
| 03:26.15 | Amarande | male draenei look kinda lumpy, like male BEs |
| 03:26.24 | Amarande | it's like they made male draenei and BEs as kinda an afterthought or something :P |
| 03:28.16 | Amarande | "no one will ever play these" :) |
| 03:28.21 | Lunessa | Like I said... |
| 03:28.26 | Corrodias2 | female draenei are too sexy |
| 03:28.29 | Amarande | except they make you disguised as a *male* BE in that one quest in Bloodmyst, even if your draenei is female |
| 03:28.29 | Corrodias2 | those little tails |
| 03:28.42 | Corrodias2 | gotta lift them up for the good stuff |
| 03:29.01 | Amarande | do they ever explain what those little things that hang off draenei ears are for? |
| 03:29.16 | Corrodias2 | they're for hanging onto when you're getting rough |
| 03:29.31 | Corrodias2 | especially from behind. |
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| 03:40.50 | Thunder_Child | not everything we have is for something nowadys, look at the apendix |
| 03:43.00 | Antiarc | http://lists.apple.com/archives/Cocoa-dev/2010/Jun/msg00564.html |
| 03:43.02 | Antiarc | lololololol |
| 03:43.50 | Corrodias2 | is it because it's not an Apple-controlled library? |
| 03:44.39 | Amarande | I think I broke Boston's guide |
| 03:44.48 | Amarande | I just got to Astranaar and THREE of the five quests I get told to accept are grey. |
| 03:44.49 | Amarande | heh |
| 03:46.43 | Antiarc | Who friggin' knows |
| 03:46.53 | Antiarc | But the idea that a regex library is getting your app rejected is amazing |
| 03:47.53 | Antiarc | Apparently it uses an underlying Apple lib |
| 03:47.59 | Antiarc | Which is deemed a private API |
| 03:48.09 | Antiarc | "Apple only officially permits the use of the ICU Regular Expression functionality." |
| 03:50.07 | Thunder_Child | Amarande: it could be a prereq |
| 03:50.55 | Corrodias2 | Antiarc: clearly this is to Improve Application Quality! |
| 03:51.07 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: bleh. if it is using a private API, though, while it may suck, its not exactly out of line |
| 03:51.22 | Corrodias2 | what the heck is a private API? |
| 03:51.25 | Antiarc | http://regexkit.sourceforge.net/RegexKitLite/ |
| 03:51.39 | NightHawkTheSane | Corrodias2: one that's not public? :P |
| 03:51.49 | Corrodias2 | which means nobody knows how to use it? |
| 03:52.25 | Thunder_Child | i'm not public, but people know how to use me |
| 03:52.51 | NightHawkTheSane | well, i think they're typically not publically documented, but they're not officially sanctioned methods, in Apple's case it's often because it's still under development, and potentially subject to change. |
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| 03:58.23 | WobWork | Jerub: I've done that, but healing in my shadow set |
| 03:58.26 | WobWork | which isn't too bad |
| 03:58.52 | Kraps | protip to causing a coronary in you group members: be a warrior decked out in pvp gear with a 2hander, and queue for the tank role |
| 03:59.00 | Jerub | WobWork: yeah, it took like 5+ minutes to do first boss of nexus |
| 04:00.30 | WobWork | Kraps: I don't bother having a coronary |
| 04:00.35 | WobWork | I see how well they do in the first pull |
| 04:00.37 | WobWork | then drop group |
| 04:00.40 | WobWork | if they're fail |
| 04:01.04 | WobWork | I can't be bothered -getting- bothered about failpugs nowadays |
| 04:01.12 | Kraps | the dk had sick gear so i ordered him to tank |
| 04:01.23 | Dagmar | Yeah it's amazing what a determined and experienced player can do, even in the 'wrong' gear. |
| 04:01.32 | Kraps | then kicked the warrior |
| 04:01.58 | WobWork | I actually prefer undergeared tanks now |
| 04:02.02 | WobWork | it gives me more to do |
| 04:02.11 | WobWork | instead of shielding, and then dozing off |
| 04:03.02 | Kraps | it was oculus |
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| 04:03.21 | Kraps | not a lot of wiggle room even in good pugs |
| 04:03.47 | NightHawkTheSane | sure there is. |
| 04:03.52 | WobWork | eh, occulus |
| 04:04.01 | WobWork | it's one of the only instances you don't really need a good tank |
| 04:04.12 | NightHawkTheSane | you barely need A tank |
| 04:04.12 | WobWork | cause the dps can burn through most bosses before it's an issue |
| 04:04.18 | WobWork | yeah |
| 04:04.23 | WobWork | maybe someone in plate |
| 04:04.39 | WobWork | none of the bosses do that much damage to the tank anyway |
| 04:04.44 | WobWork | they're all aoe sort |
| 04:04.53 | WobWork | and once you're on drakes, it doesn't matter |
| 04:06.46 | Jerub | yeah, occulus is an awesome instance |
| 04:06.57 | Jerub | does the first boss actually do anything special that anyone should ever care about? |
| 04:07.42 | WobWork | um |
| 04:07.49 | WobWork | there's some aoe damage when the bombs explode |
| 04:08.05 | WobWork | I line up mass dispel on the warstomp |
| 04:08.15 | Kraps | WobWork: i try not to get bothered either but this was such a big fail it offended my sense of right and wrong |
| 04:08.16 | WobWork | just to see the dispel messages spamline up =P |
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| 04:08.36 | Kraps | and he held no aggro |
| 04:09.16 | NightHawkTheSane | you should work on your morals, they seem a bit tightly wound |
| 04:09.28 | NightHawkTheSane | or i guess that's ethics, either way |
| 04:09.31 | NightHawkTheSane | loosen up :P |
| 04:09.32 | Kraps | :) |
| 04:11.45 | Amarande | gah, wtf is with the lack of people wanting to do gnomer |
| 04:12.04 | Cide | probably the fact that it's gnomeran |
| 04:12.17 | Torhal | Gnomer has been taboo on my server for years now. I think I only ever went two times. |
| 04:14.49 | Dagmar | It's also unique in that it's the one instance in which you can create truly classic trains with one misstep |
| 04:15.01 | Jamash | ^ |
| 04:15.22 | Kraps | trains? |
| 04:15.34 | Jamash | choo choo chugga chugga chugga choo choo |
| 04:15.45 | Jamash | aka giant conga line of enemies |
| 04:15.51 | WobWork | hehe |
| 04:16.01 | WobWork | aka SURPRISE TRAIN |
| 04:17.11 | Kraps | http://elitistjerks.com/f34/t101260-infraction_ackthbbft_7_do_not_beg_hand_holding/ |
| 04:17.51 | WobWork | ? |
| 04:19.09 | Kraps | inorite |
| 04:19.34 | NightHawkTheSane | hey, look, i can link random shit too! http://www.explosm.net/comics/1874/ |
| 04:20.21 | Jamash | http://www.megagamerz.com/ |
| 04:20.52 | Kraps | senses a disturbance in the force |
| 04:21.53 | Dagmar | Seriously? You've never seen a train? |
| 04:21.54 | Dagmar | Sad |
| 04:22.18 | Dagmar | Usually they meant a quick death, but when they didn't it would generally be the most exciting thing to happen all day |
| 04:22.24 | Torhal | Not everyone had the horrific experience of playing EverQuest |
| 04:22.26 | Kraps | its been a while |
| 04:22.45 | Torhal | The trains in Crushbone were legendary. |
| 04:22.49 | Torhal | "TRAIN TO ZONE!!!!!" |
| 04:23.19 | Jamash | I remember when people cared about everquest |
| 04:24.10 | Cairenn | D'Vinn TO ZONE! |
| 04:24.38 | Jamash | people wonder, how can you hate a game you've never played |
| 04:24.45 | Torhal | I played it. |
| 04:24.53 | Cairenn | I /loved/ EQ, I miss it like hell |
| 04:25.04 | Cairenn | or, more correctly, I loved my guild |
| 04:25.18 | Jamash | the answer is that you can be stuck in a cubicle with 3 other people who play it but you don't |
| 04:25.38 | Jamash | and they talk about it |
| 04:25.42 | Jamash | all day |
| 04:25.57 | Jamash | every day |
| 04:26.11 | Jamash | and then you murder them with a spork |
| 04:26.35 | Jamash | I still have the spork |
| 04:26.40 | Jamash | wait, what were we talking about? |
| 04:26.56 | Torhal | Spork warfare. |
| 04:27.12 | NightHawkTheSane | i like sporks. |
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| 04:41.09 | Kraps | ~jamash++ |
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| 04:44.43 | Dagmar | The Splitpaw trains were better. |
| 04:44.53 | Shirik | Please |
| 04:45.01 | Shirik | someone tell me I'm reading this wrong and I've been out of the game longer than I thought |
| 04:45.05 | Dagmar | They could be summoned on command and arrived with a fercity and regularity you could set your watch by. |
| 04:45.25 | Shirik | [2. Trade] LF ICC 25 raid, geared priest 100 gs, 20 healing per second |
| 04:45.34 | Dagmar | hahah |
| 04:45.41 | Dagmar | That's hilarious |
| 04:45.50 | Kraps | YOU GOT TROLLED BRO |
| 04:45.56 | Dagmar | Apparently, he's only wearing a hat |
| 04:46.16 | Kraps | caps was unintentional |
| 04:46.31 | Jamash | CAPS ARE ALWAYS INTENTIONAL |
| 04:46.57 | Jamash | I'ma write a new addon |
| 04:46.59 | Jamash | fishscore |
| 04:47.15 | Kraps | should i have said "were"? |
| 04:47.30 | Jamash | only characters with at least +50 fishing from gear allowed in my raid |
| 04:48.47 | Kraps | Jamash: what are you, some kind of elitist? gtfo |
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| 04:51.38 | Duman | hmm |
| 04:51.42 | Jamash | actually wait |
| 04:51.45 | Jamash | I mean +40 |
| 04:51.53 | Jamash | (I only have +40) |
| 04:52.12 | Kraps | lol |
| 05:04.02 | Kraps | "We considered models such as letting you kill a boss as many times a week as you wanted but only having loot rights once, but then we realized how horrible that was going to be for say the guild's main tank who would be asked to raid constantly without even the hope for more loot of his own." |
| 05:04.29 | Thunder_Child | to bad, it would be nice practace |
| 05:04.56 | Corrodias2 | yes, yeees, TORTURE THE RAIDERS! MUAHAHAHAHA |
| 05:06.03 | Thunder_Child | though if you got emblems for kills and/or rep, that would prolly make it worthwhile |
| 05:06.27 | Amarande | gah, why am I queuing at this level |
| 05:06.33 | Amarande | I have two possible dungeons for randoms at this level |
| 05:06.35 | Amarande | RFK, and Gnomer. :| |
| 05:06.43 | Jamash | yeah I hate that |
| 05:06.51 | WobWork | SFK? |
| 05:06.59 | WobWork | that's a decent dungeon |
| 05:07.11 | WobWork | and VC |
| 05:08.24 | Kraps | Amarande: waiting around is not gonna make you level faster. you should queue and do quests |
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| 05:23.09 | WobWork | Kraps: unless you're levelling as a tank |
| 05:23.15 | Jerub | mmmlevellingasatank |
| 05:23.20 | WobWork | this ^ |
| 05:23.53 | Dagmar | Better to level as a sub-compact. |
| 05:23.57 | Dagmar | More parking spaces available. |
| 05:24.32 | Kraps | WobWork: there are probably level ranges where you wont get instant groups |
| 05:27.21 | Jerub | Dagmar: the parking space between the vendor and the trainer is /fine/ |
| 05:27.55 | Jerub | at the moment my tank is doing an instance a day, hovering between 0-20% rested, and is at 36 emblems of triumph |
| 05:28.09 | Jerub | and i bought a plated shotgun off a guy for him to |
| 05:28.11 | Jerub | er too |
| 05:28.26 | Jerub | gotta organise the toc25 gear for ihm too |
| 05:28.34 | Jerub | i mean, the blacksmith pieces. |
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| 05:30.43 | Thunder_Child | Jerub: i read that as levelin gas a tank |
| 05:33.41 | Amarande | hmm |
| 05:33.49 | Amarande | I'm supposing raid guilds that demand GS are ones not to join. :) |
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| 05:34.50 | Thunder_Child | and you would suppose wrong, since that is an opnion |
| 05:36.09 | Kraps | raids or guilds? |
| 05:36.10 | WobWork | Amarande: To truly see if the raid is worth going into due to gear score, create a trolling DK that has full spellplate |
| 05:37.08 | Amarande | Kraps: I'm speaking of *guilds* that recruit based on GS, like they're some kind of trade channel PUG or something |
| 05:37.38 | Thunder_Child | if you dont like it dont do it |
| 05:37.52 | Kraps | unless its a really high GS, they're being morons |
| 05:38.35 | Amarande | 2700+, according to this particular ad. |
| 05:38.57 | Kraps | must be the wow-heroes GS |
| 05:39.55 | Amarande | yeah, they use wow-heroes GS on silvermoon |
| 05:40.23 | Amarande | I guess they must be trying to get a crack team of ultra-geared folks together so they can get their Kingslayer quickly |
| 05:40.31 | Kraps | thats about 5k on the addon |
| 05:40.36 | Jerub | WobWork: my favourite is getting my level 37 shaman into GS reqiring raids. |
| 05:40.37 | Amarande | not that I can be sure why, since there's no reason to be afraid Cata will be out too soon |
| 05:40.52 | Jerub | WobWork: (I successfully do this at least once a week) |
| 05:40.55 | Amarande | Jerub: has he STILL not fixed heirlooms always showing as their level 80 value? |
| 05:41.14 | Jerub | Amarande: i think the point is, the requirement is advertised, but not checked. |
| 05:41.35 | Amarande | hell, in terms of the thought of people forming guilds to grab titles quickly before Cata |
| 05:41.49 | Amarande | err ... there's at this point still time to get a fresh character to 80 and get them up to Kingslayer before Cata, I'm sure. |
| 05:42.04 | Amarande | has beta even started yet? |
| 05:43.06 | Jamash | no |
| 05:44.28 | Amarande | btw, what's this weird minimap icon I have? |
| 05:44.30 | Amarande | I've had it for a while |
| 05:44.35 | NightHawkTheSane | awesome: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-LOoDMOhnE |
| 05:44.47 | Amarande | it's got colored arrows on a green background, when I click it it toggles between that and grey arrows on a grey background, and it has no tooltip |
| 05:46.00 | WobWork | Jerub: how's that work? |
| 05:46.14 | Jerub | WobWork: I demand a place in the raid. |
| 05:46.18 | Jerub | WobWork: then they invite me |
| 05:46.37 | Amarande | On Turalyon it was always "come to dala bank for gear check", so it wouldn't have worked there Jerub |
| 05:46.41 | WobWork | what is your GS rate towards? |
| 05:46.42 | Jerub | then i do /raid level 37 is high enough for this raid rite? u guise r cool" |
| 05:46.45 | WobWork | with heirlooms |
| 05:47.52 | Amarande | Jerub: tell me your level 37 shaman is at least a Troll. :) |
| 05:49.22 | Jerub | Amarande: of course. |
| 05:49.41 | Jerub | WobWork: like, 1200 |
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| 05:50.27 | bleeter | http://shop.starwars.com/catalog/detailed.xml?product_id=1312790&type=img1 |
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| 05:51.51 | Jerub | bleeter: pure win |
| 06:11.34 | Amarande | hmm, miscellaneous gaming ponderings |
| 06:11.39 | Amarande | where did "c-c-c-combo breaker!" originate? |
| 06:12.27 | WobWork | street fighter? |
| 06:12.40 | Kraps | http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/combo-breaker |
| 06:12.51 | Dagmar | Young 'uns |
| 06:13.10 | Dagmar | To never know the bliss a single quarter can bring... |
| 06:13.23 | Dagmar | YES THEY WERE AT ONE TIME ONLY ONE QUARTER. |
| 06:13.48 | WobWork | those were the days |
| 06:13.52 | WobWork | we didn't have quarters |
| 06:13.55 | WobWork | but we had 20c |
| 06:14.10 | Dagmar | That's when you went to an "Arcade" and exchanged it for a "token" |
| 06:14.16 | Dagmar | Sometimes six for a dollar |
| 06:14.47 | Dagmar | For awhile my mother would take me and my brother to the local arcade, give us ten bucks each, and then go shopping |
| 06:15.13 | Dagmar | ...because it was cheaper than a babysitter and we would be damned if we were going to get dragged away from there by anyone who wasn't sporting a badge and a uniform |
| 06:15.20 | Amarande | wow I've had this one quest for like five levels without being able to do the damnedest thing about it, because I'm Alliance |
| 06:15.28 | Torhal | Wizard of Wor. |
| 06:15.45 | Dagmar | Star Castle! |
| 06:15.48 | Torhal | Asteroids |
| 06:15.52 | Dagmar | With the damn near realistic hyperbomb speaker |
| 06:16.32 | Dagmar | I actually played some of the more renegade ones |
| 06:16.44 | Dagmar | It was years before I actually saw a Donkey Kong machine |
| 06:16.54 | Dagmar | The south was littered with tons of the ROM clone "Crazy Kong" |
| 06:17.08 | Dagmar | ...and "Bagman" |
| 06:18.11 | Dagmar | Sixteen whole colors (mostly used irresponsibly) and amazing two-frame animated sprites! |
| 06:18.42 | Amarande | one trouble with alliance, pretty much |
| 06:18.57 | Amarande | getting to ratchet at early levels (and there's a WC quest that sends you there), is *not* an easy matter |
| 06:19.26 | Corrodias2 | pvp? |
| 06:19.27 | Amarande | you basically have to go darn->darkshore->ashenvale->stonetalon, or you will get your ass handed to you in ways better not mentioned in a family chat |
| 06:19.31 | Dagmar | Amarande: Go to the mirror and repeat this... "I'm mean enough, and I'm fast enough, and by god I damn well WILL get there." |
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| 06:19.45 | Corrodias2 | they can't stop you from respawning |
| 06:19.46 | Amarande | Corrodias: not even so much PvP, as the fact that you have to make it past level 40 guards wherever you try to go |
| 06:19.57 | Amarande | and getting to BB as ally at low levels is just not happening, either |
| 06:19.58 | Corrodias2 | you will at least make it about 30 feet each respawn attempt! |
| 06:20.18 | Dagmar | If you have to respawn more than once per location you are doing something terribly wrong |
| 06:20.38 | Dagmar | Mostly I just sucked it up, took the boat to Theramore, and streaked the swamp |
| 06:20.39 | Corrodias2 | i need a small incinerator |
| 06:21.01 | Corrodias2 | i suppose i could just light a fire in a steel can on my concrete patio |
| 06:21.15 | Dagmar | If you go the Theramore route you don't really have much to worry about except for the monsters there |
| 06:21.46 | Dagmar | Amarande: If you stay on the bloody path you can generally get to Booty Bay without an issue |
| 06:21.58 | Dagmar | They DO drop that hint early and often if you have tips turned on |
| 06:22.04 | krka | Amarande: you're a lion? i never thought of you as a lion, but you have a mighty roar |
| 06:22.42 | Dagmar | Unlike EverQuest where roads frequently bordered two large bounding boxes, meaning two sets of mobs were quite likely to be there, in Blizzard's world, that's seldom the case. Mobs that aren't humanoid patrols stay off roads |
| 06:23.12 | Dagmar | Amarande: You weren't a mage in beta I'll bet |
| 06:23.22 | Amarande | heh, what was it like for mages in beta? |
| 06:23.29 | WobWork | er Amarande |
| 06:23.38 | Dagmar | The mage epic quest involved going to see the old hag Tabitha, MANY TIMES |
| 06:23.48 | WobWork | Boat from Menethil |
| 06:23.50 | Dagmar | s/epic/class-specific/ |
| 06:23.51 | WobWork | to Theramore |
| 06:24.01 | WobWork | then swim up the coast to ratchet |
| 06:24.03 | Amarande | Dagmar: you mean the same Tabitha I usually visit regularly on basically every character that quests Dustwallow? |
| 06:24.06 | WobWork | easy |
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| 06:24.15 | Dagmar | So, at like 18, you basically got a note to go see her. |
| 06:24.25 | Dagmar | ...at 18. |
| 06:24.34 | WobWork | Dagmar: it's great, that quest |
| 06:24.37 | Dagmar | Middle of swamp, everything around thinks you're tasty |
| 06:24.39 | WobWork | it teaches you the value of aggro range |
| 06:24.51 | Dagmar | WobWork: A few points used to mean you were just going over for an ass whipping at your level |
| 06:25.03 | WobWork | also, how to use a well timed blink |
| 06:25.11 | Dagmar | The one where she spawns the doomguard was originally just not doable |
| 06:25.15 | Jerub | is it bad that i nag shamans to go do their totem quests? |
| 06:25.20 | WobWork | no |
| 06:25.22 | zenzio | if this was in beta, were the mobs in the zone the same level they are now? |
| 06:25.35 | Jerub | i don't really :/ it's just when a level 30+ shaman asks the paladin for BoW, it's like, "dude, drop your totem" |
| 06:25.43 | Jerub | and then "dude...." |
| 06:25.44 | Dagmar | Zenzio: "high enough to three-shot you"? |
| 06:26.03 | zenzio | Dagmar: I see =) |
| 06:26.03 | krka | aww no one caught my reference? |
| 06:26.08 | krka | i am very disappointed in you all! |
| 06:26.14 | Dagmar | Yeah I was stacking int to the ceiling then |
| 06:26.26 | Dagmar | Thottbot was letting me see I was pretty damn near the top for my level most of the time |
| 06:26.37 | WobWork | Cairenn: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l3yim2HhDn1qzpwi0o1_500.jpg |
| 06:26.41 | Dagmar | I got that quest, went over there, and the doomguard just beat my silly |
| 06:26.50 | NightHawkTheSane | mmm.. cupcakes |
| 06:27.15 | Cairenn | WobWork: lol |
| 06:27.51 | Dagmar | Blinking wasn't helping because I could unload from max range on that thing, blink, spin, and repeat, and he'd STILL have enough damn hitpoints to kill me |
| 06:28.07 | Amarande | Jerub: you mean especially since the air totem (that's the 30 one, right?) quest is cake? |
| 06:28.19 | Amarande | I can forgive shamans not having their water totem at 20 otoh, since that one really is a pain in the ass to do at 20 |
| 06:28.25 | Dagmar | I hate Tabitha so much |
| 06:28.27 | Amarande | at least on alliance side |
| 06:28.40 | WobWork | Dagmar: Oh that quest |
| 06:28.45 | WobWork | Frost nova ftw |
| 06:28.48 | Amarande | It's like expecting a warlock to have their succubus at 20. |
| 06:28.50 | WobWork | and rank 1 frostbolt |
| 06:28.53 | Dagmar | "Go fetch me a shiny necklace I didn't care enough about to keep up with, bitch" |
| 06:28.55 | WobWork | for slowing |
| 06:29.01 | Dagmar | Dude, I tried everything |
| 06:29.25 | WobWork | Amarande: oh god, water totem is -such- a ridiculously long journey |
| 06:29.26 | Jerub | Amarande: this guy was in gnomer with neither water or air totems |
| 06:29.27 | Dagmar | It was nerfed a bit |
| 06:29.28 | WobWork | hordeside |
| 06:29.47 | Dagmar | I ran back over after than and sqeaked through |
| 06:29.51 | Dagmar | er that |
| 06:30.20 | Dagmar | One of the cool things about CB was that generally if you sent in a pretty clear bug report, boom fixed next week. |
| 06:30.23 | Amarande | I haven't done a mage quest since the manaweave cloak one |
| 06:30.43 | Amarande | which wasn't too bad, since the other good chest piece at that level was from the dragon kill quest in bloodmyst, which is basically nigh-unsoloable by mages |
| 06:30.46 | Dagmar | I was impressed tho that it originally pantsed me |
| 06:31.24 | Amarande | razormaw, that is |
| 06:31.34 | Amarande | I thought it might be doable since razormaw has so little HP for a 20 elite |
| 06:31.39 | Amarande | but ... nope. :P |
| 06:31.51 | Dagmar | Some of their outdoor elite mobs were pretty cool |
| 06:32.41 | Dagmar | I was messing about in the Highlands being all full of my firey wrath, and to the southeast near the zigurrats, what do I see but a spider the size of Epcot, looking like I Could probably take it |
| 06:32.45 | Dagmar | Noooo.... |
| 06:33.01 | Amarande | Dagmar: I think you mean the Hinterlands? |
| 06:33.07 | Dagmar | There was a rogue laughing at me, thinking he would swoop in for the kill |
| 06:33.08 | Amarande | You're thinking of Shadra, right? |
| 06:33.17 | Dagmar | I didn't even look at it's name |
| 06:33.23 | Amarande | Was she red? |
| 06:33.26 | Dagmar | ...but yeah, the Hinterlands |
| 06:33.34 | Amarande | Yeah, that's Shadra. |
| 06:33.35 | Dagmar | Yeah giant red spider, thin black legs |
| 06:34.07 | Dagmar | She pwned me after a good bout of running around blasting, and the rogue went down like a sack of wheat |
| 06:34.08 | Amarande | Now she's a normal sized red spider but no less deadly |
| 06:34.29 | Dagmar | No, now she has a rational number of hitpoints |
| 06:34.48 | Amarande | she still HITS like the ziggurat got dropped on you though |
| 06:34.50 | Dagmar | During CB/OB anything that was Elite generally had as many hit points as Blizz damn well felt like giving it. |
| 06:35.10 | Amarande | Yeah, now elites seem to be almost standardized |
| 06:35.11 | zenzio | I remember the rare-elites in BC... encountered my first one in Zangarmarsh at 62 or 63, thought "free loot". Not so much (at the time anyhow) |
| 06:35.13 | Dagmar | ...which sometimes led to really, REALLY high numbers |
| 06:35.17 | Amarande | ever notice how almost every 80+ has 63000 unless it's a boss? |
| 06:35.22 | Dagmar | Yeah |
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| 06:35.27 | Dagmar | Now they're all very predictable |
| 06:35.52 | Dagmar | That spider had something like 100,000 but I couldn't tell until after I'd started shooting |
| 06:36.16 | Amarande | Wow. |
| 06:36.21 | Amarande | Even the final boss of UBRS doesn't have 100,000. |
| 06:36.36 | Dagmar | I emptied the tank and did about a third of her HP |
| 06:36.57 | Amarande | yay, more gray quests. oh well, anything that brings me into contact with more kingsblood is good |
| 06:37.04 | Amarande | kingsblood is lifeblood for 100-150 inscription |
| 06:37.13 | Dagmar | There was a lot of hopping around in my chair saying "Oh my god... Oh I think I have SO f**ked up here... Oh sh*t..." |
| 06:37.51 | Jerub | hehehe quests |
| 06:37.58 | Amarande | And then everything went gray? :) |
| 06:37.59 | Jerub | i'm levelling my herbing in dungeons |
| 06:37.59 | Dagmar | Right then I learned that "really big monster == MASSIVE HP POOL" |
| 06:39.10 | zenzio | given how they said Cataclysm will have 3000 quests, I hope they make a new tier of the "... Quests Completed" achievement |
| 06:39.22 | Amarande | my herbing is going along nicely ... however, I specifically need a large amount of kingsblood |
| 06:39.30 | Amarande | otherwise, inscription will be a PITA to go 100-150 in |
| 06:39.39 | Dagmar | WEll, um, they're apparently doing away with Loremaster, and I suspect because it'll drop a lot of people's # of quests completed |
| 06:40.19 | Torhal | zenzio: That marsh stalker in Zangar toward the northwest used to be almost impossible to do. |
| 06:40.20 | Amarande | Dagmar: how about Outland and Northrend loremasters? |
| 06:40.33 | Dagmar | Didn't they say those werne't changing? |
| 06:40.33 | Torhal | That was the first motherfucker I killed when WoTLK came out |
| 06:40.40 | Amarande | Torhal: you know, I keep going looking for that thing now when I'm at that level, and never find it |
| 06:40.41 | zenzio | Torhal: I encountered it near the Cenarion place |
| 06:40.56 | Amarande | zenzio: I think you're thinking of the other elite marshstalker |
| 06:41.00 | Amarande | the one for the 61G2 quest |
| 06:41.02 | zenzio | there are two? |
| 06:41.03 | Torhal | zenzio: Oh, that one I soloed at 70. The other one stomped me and two other people in seconds. |
| 06:41.08 | Amarande | yeah, there's that one, and there's a rare. |
| 06:41.11 | Amarande | they're talking about the rare |
| 06:41.15 | Dagmar | Oh yeah there was a rare nasty |
| 06:41.16 | Amarande | which pops near the west side of the zone |
| 06:41.21 | zenzio | Amarande: no, I'm not talking about the one for the quest |
| 06:41.21 | Amarande | 63+, if I recall |
| 06:41.26 | Dagmar | It's sneaky |
| 06:41.37 | Dagmar | You may or may *not* even notice the coloration difference |
| 06:41.51 | zenzio | Amarande: and the one for the Cenarion quest spawns to the east, not west |
| 06:41.55 | Torhal | I think I was 71 when I went back and handed it its ass after they nerfed it |
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| 06:47.36 | Amarande | ok, I don't like the venture co area in stonetalon whether I'm overleveled or underleveled, apparently |
| 06:47.42 | Amarande | if I'm underleveled, I aggro too much stuff |
| 06:47.51 | Amarande | if I'm overleveled, because they're all small green and brown guys AND THE ENTIRE AREA IS BLOODY BROWN |
| 06:47.55 | Amarande | I can't FIND anything :P |
| 06:48.12 | Jerub | Amarande: hit the v key |
| 06:48.25 | Amarande | yay find the mob that blends in almost exactly with the terrain gee thanks lol |
| 06:48.41 | Dagmar | "Camoflage" |
| 06:48.44 | Jerub | Amarande: or /tar and /qh radar |
| 06:48.53 | Jerub | i love /qh radar |
| 06:48.55 | Dagmar | ...it's not just for jeeps driven by idiots. |
| 06:49.02 | Corrodias2 | tab key or something, no? |
| 06:49.43 | Jerub | Amarande: nameplates + /tar + /qh radar. stop that silly qq |
| 06:51.32 | Amarande | I wonder if there's anyone who actually likes fighting Venture Co mobs |
| 06:51.33 | Amarande | heh |
| 06:52.04 | Dagmar | It never bothered me much. |
| 06:52.29 | Jerub | Amarande: i liked it, generally. |
| 06:52.32 | Amarande | In addition to the previous QQ, there also tend to be a billion of them per square inch of terrain, and they always run. |
| 06:52.32 | Jerub | Amarande: nice terrain |
| 06:52.42 | Jerub | instead of those stupid always-the-same minidungeons |
| 06:53.24 | Amarande | Yeah Blizz uses way too many prefabs :S |
| 06:53.37 | Dagmar | Dude. |
| 06:53.42 | Dagmar | That's somewhat the point |
| 06:53.54 | Dagmar | It's a large version of WC III and then some |
| 06:54.20 | Dagmar | The general idea being that you were looking at a Warcraft game that has been fleshed out |
| 06:54.46 | Amarande | Another thing to really love about fire mages. |
| 06:54.52 | Amarande | It's a heavily dot based build. |
| 06:54.59 | Amarande | Not as much as aff lock, but still dot reliant. |
| 06:55.12 | Amarande | And one thing I LOVE about dots is watching mobs wander off trying to run away and then collapsing in the dirt. :D |
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| 06:58.15 | zenzio | "article summary: "disk is slower than RAM. some doofs don't realize their system is swapping. ergo algorithm is bad." Throw in 'Knuth is wrong' to generate page hits." |
| 06:58.23 | Amarande | ok, that's oddly appropriate. |
| 06:58.29 | Amarande | Your skill in Fishing has increased to 151. |
| 06:58.33 | Amarande | You receive loot: [Rumsey Rum Dark] |
| 06:58.35 | Amarande | 151, rum? :) |
| 06:58.45 | zenzio | I don't get it |
| 07:01.27 | Cairenn | Amarande: rofl |
| 07:01.36 | Cairenn | 151 proof rum |
| 07:02.32 | Jerub | zenzio: yeah, i read that article and i had a hard time separating rambling incoherant graphing from facts. |
| 07:03.26 | Amarande | although I have to wonder if I should drink rum that came from a BP ... er ... Venture Co oil spill |
| 07:03.49 | Cairenn | Amarande: lol |
| 07:04.06 | zenzio | not like it's any worse than rum from any other oil spill |
| 07:06.02 | Amarande | yay, the weather beaten journal! |
| 07:06.55 | krka | someone can't distinguish algorithm from implementation: "Would you believe me if I claimed that an algorithm that has been on the books as "optimal" for 46 years, which has been analyzed in excruciating detail by geniuses like Knuth and taught in all computer science courses in the world, can be optimized to run 10 times faster?" |
| 07:12.43 | Corrodias2 | by doing it in hardware |
| 07:12.46 | Corrodias2 | i win! |
| 07:16.27 | Amarande | pushes Corrodias' thoughts back into the box. |
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| 07:23.58 | Trela | Weeeeeeeeeeeee! |
| 07:24.39 | Trela | Amarande: Bacardi 151... Nooooooooooo! |
| 07:28.34 | Antiarc | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vuvuzela&oldid=368031961 |
| 07:29.13 | zenzio | Antiarc: you saw its Twitter page? |
| 07:29.20 | Antiarc | No, haha |
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| 07:30.46 | zenzio | hm, can't find "it"... there appear to be many now |
| 07:31.34 | WobWork | http://twitter.com/the_vuvuzela |
| 07:36.06 | WobWork | haha http://twitpic.com/1vwlun |
| 07:36.54 | zenzio | lol |
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| 07:39.37 | krka | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi6vWpc3Hs0&feature=related <-- i think this has some serious competition now |
| 07:41.02 | zenzio | http://www.goldenjoystick.com/ - that domain just shouts out for jokes |
| 07:41.19 | WobWork | sitonmy.goldenjoystick.com ? |
| 07:42.13 | Corrodias2 | WobWork: for some reason, i can't see its tweets... |
| 07:42.49 | Corrodias2 | DOT DOT DOT |
| 07:45.09 | WobWork | Corrodias2: was working before =( |
| 07:45.42 | WobWork | oh |
| 07:45.46 | WobWork | I think it's twitter being stupid |
| 07:46.00 | zenzio | it does seem to be stupid right now for me |
| 07:46.16 | krka | http://www.powergenitalia.com/ <-- best domain |
| 07:46.17 | WobWork | you can see it has 16 tweets on the side there |
| 07:47.02 | Amarande | ok, charred vale goes on my bad list now |
| 07:47.16 | zenzio | okay, Gameplanet has a weird way of dividing articles... "Gameplanet: How exactly has the glyph system been upgraded?" " |
| 07:47.16 | zenzio | Continued on next page" |
| 07:47.22 | zenzio | stupid newline copy |
| 07:49.02 | Amarande | ... that was pure luck. |
| 07:49.12 | Amarande | managing to get out of charred vale from near the south end without having to stop to fight anything. |
| 07:49.14 | Amarande | luck, I say. |
| 07:49.37 | WobWork | indeed |
| 07:49.40 | WobWork | charred vale is terrible |
| 07:49.57 | WobWork | I singlehandedly achieved full Storm Witch occupancy |
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| 07:50.04 | WobWork | through eugenics |
| 07:50.21 | Amarande | yes, charred vale is a total pita |
| 07:50.30 | Amarande | the pat paths must resemble the D.C. metro highway map |
| 07:50.39 | Amarande | you can hardly ever stop to even drink or eat without something patting into you |
| 07:50.46 | Amarande | and this is at 28, mind you |
| 07:51.01 | Amarande | I can't imagine going there a couple levels lower now |
| 07:51.10 | Amarande | how did I ever survive stonetalon as horde, where you have to go there much more often heh |
| 07:52.27 | zenzio | "A lot of the new trade skill recipes are going to have random stats on them" - whenever I hear them say this, I think back on Dark Iron Boots of the Whale |
| 07:53.32 | WobWork | Or the Iron Shield of Shadow Power |
| 07:53.41 | zenzio | haha |
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| 08:03.54 | Torhal | Cultist's Staff of The Bandit? |
| 08:04.44 | zenzio | don't remember that being a crafted item, but yeah |
| 08:06.52 | Torhal | It wasn't, it was a "for example?" |
| 08:07.54 | olafski | seems like a good way to waste dark iron, zenzio ;) |
| 08:08.12 | zenzio | olafski: it was |
| 08:09.28 | olafski | but I guess they'll only have "useful" stats now |
| 08:09.33 | olafski | at least useful for that armor/weapon type |
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| 08:12.01 | Torhal | Maybe on the second or third iteration. You _know_ Blizzard has to fuck with us first. |
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| 08:28.23 | Amarande | bah I knew that quest item was cursed |
| 08:28.37 | Amarande | I picked up this thing in gnomer, which I couldn't use for several levels because it required 28 to start the quest |
| 08:28.49 | Amarande | I start the quest and ... sweet XP at this level, but ... it means another trip to gnomer :P |
| 08:29.01 | zenzio | so it's a win-win situation! |
| 08:29.07 | krka | the quest item comes with free frogurt! |
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| 08:46.10 | olafski | gnomeregan is hardly as bad as it was before anyway |
| 08:46.33 | zenzio | yeah, they removed dishonorable kills! |
| 08:46.34 | zenzio | ;) |
| 08:46.43 | zenzio | I always liked Gnomeregan |
| 08:47.06 | olafski | it takes like 20 minutes with a pug now |
| 08:47.43 | olafski | or just go to the cleaning things in 5 minutes and leave the group ;) |
| 08:51.01 | Wobin | zomg |
| 08:51.09 | Wobin | the Natal example was 'petting a cat'? |
| 08:51.16 | Wobin | WRRRRRRRY? |
| 08:51.46 | Wobin | of -all- the possible 'interactions' in which you actually want tactile feedback, scritching a lion cub would be one where you want the damn fur under your hands =P |
| 08:52.18 | zenzio | maybe it was innuendo |
| 08:52.23 | olafski | they had quite a few examples |
| 08:52.34 | zenzio | for all those sad Xboxers who can't get any non-virtual... |
| 08:52.40 | olafski | some of them even looked ok imo :) |
| 08:52.50 | jnwhiteh | Gnomeregan took longer than 20 minutes yesterday with my group =/ |
| 08:53.03 | jnwhiteh | was a bit annoying |
| 08:53.13 | zenzio | meh. In my day, *getting* to Gnomeregan took more than 20 minutes |
| 08:53.26 | olafski | lol at in my day :P |
| 08:54.07 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 08:54.46 | Adys | in my day, gnomeregan was too high level |
| 08:55.10 | olafski | I think we went there at about 35 the first time |
| 08:55.14 | olafski | now you can queue for it at 25(?) |
| 08:55.54 | zenzio | I liked the old system for introducing people to instances... [...]: wanna tank X? |
| 08:56.03 | olafski | :) |
| 08:56.05 | olafski | no f off |
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| 09:07.19 | Adys | HAHA YES |
| 09:07.37 | Adys | jnwhiteh |
| 09:07.45 | jnwhiteh | Adys: how much? |
| 09:07.59 | Adys | http://www.pastethat.com/media/files/2010/06/15/highscore.png |
| 09:08.06 | jnwhiteh | HOLY SHIT |
| 09:08.06 | jnwhiteh | hahaha |
| 09:08.20 | krka | wtf is that? |
| 09:08.35 | Adys | http://games.adultswim.com/robot-unicorn-attack-twitchy-online-game.html |
| 09:10.05 | Fisker | slaps jnwhiteh around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:14.03 | Adys | jnwhiteh: I'm done now |
| 09:14.06 | Adys | wanted to top 100k |
| 09:14.27 | Adys | the numbers keep growing at extreme rates when you got stars > 2k |
| 09:14.28 | jnwhiteh | nice =) |
| 09:14.36 | Adys | it blinds you after a while |
| 09:14.37 | jnwhiteh | ah, makes sense. |
| 09:14.46 | Adys | theres some vids on yt :P |
| 09:15.21 | Adys | anyone ever configured a cdn? |
| 09:15.35 | tekkub | a canadien? no |
| 09:15.38 | tekkub | ask Cairenn |
| 09:15.43 | Adys | asks Cairenn |
| 09:15.54 | Adys | they came without their instruction manual |
| 09:15.54 | Adys | :( |
| 09:15.57 | Cairenn | You can't configure me |
| 09:16.06 | Adys | runs make depend on Cairenn |
| 09:16.08 | tekkub | you have a spawnling don't you? |
| 09:16.16 | tekkub | I'm sure you had to configure it |
| 09:21.39 | Cairenn | tekkub: she's a she, not an it :p |
| 09:22.34 | tekkub | details |
| 09:22.48 | tekkub | depends on configuration |
| 09:23.52 | zenzio | Cairenn: SS or it didn't happen |
| 09:24.00 | Cairenn | lol |
| 09:24.43 | Cairenn | zenzio: I /know/ you guys ... you really think I'd be so stupid as to show you her picture?!?! |
| 09:24.47 | Maldivia | uhh, the new mac mini is out now :P |
| 09:25.03 | tekkub | the new mini is damn sexy |
| 09:25.11 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 09:25.16 | tekkub | if I could find a media center I liked we'd get one in a moment |
| 09:25.59 | zenzio | does the new Mac Mini support more than one monitor? |
| 09:26.05 | Maldivia | yes |
| 09:26.09 | tekkub | the old one did too |
| 09:26.14 | zenzio | really? |
| 09:26.16 | zenzio | how? |
| 09:26.17 | Maldivia | and the new one has hdmi :P |
| 09:26.17 | tekkub | yes |
| 09:26.21 | tekkub | two ports |
| 09:26.37 | Maldivia | mini-display port to dual dvi works as well :P |
| 09:27.02 | zenzio | the Mac Mini I'm looking at besides my monitor only has one DVI port, not sure if it has any mini-DisplayPort |
| 09:27.25 | zenzio | but I'd gladly (have my employer) upgrade to the new one so I can get some more RAM and stuff |
| 09:27.41 | Maldivia | the first version of the mini only had the dvi port |
| 09:27.55 | zenzio | guess that's what I have then |
| 09:28.38 | tekkub | yea I don't like that part |
| 09:28.51 | tekkub | cracking the mini open to upgrade ram was 3/4 the fun of owning it |
| 09:28.59 | tekkub | now it's a 5sec job, fuck that |
| 09:29.14 | Maldivia | tekkub: then you just have to start upgrading the harddrive instead :P |
| 09:31.24 | zenzio | tekkub: nevermind the trouble, it's the amount I care about |
| 09:31.29 | zenzio | I'd want to stuff it with 8 GB |
| 09:31.44 | Maldivia | zenzio: you can order it with 8gigs |
| 09:31.59 | zenzio | I'm still talking in comparison to the one I have now |
| 09:32.05 | zenzio | which I believe capped at 2 GB |
| 09:42.57 | Fisker | zenzio |
| 09:42.59 | Fisker | hey |
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| 09:48.43 | Fisker | slaps tekkub around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:51.11 | Fisker | shttp://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=13705343363&sid=1&pageNo=2#25 <-hur hurr |
| 09:54.50 | Adys | Woah |
| 09:54.55 | Adys | whats with the wow-europe forums? |
| 09:54.59 | Adys | they're like, as fast as google |
| 09:55.27 | A-KO | DAMNIT APPLE |
| 09:55.31 | Adys | dammit* |
| 09:56.14 | A-KO | they need to learn to buy better servers |
| 09:56.42 | Wobin | holy crap: http://freshome.com/2010/06/09/unusual-decorating-idea-wall-staple-art/ |
| 09:57.18 | Adys | the last one is disturbing |
| 09:57.21 | Adys | doesnt this shit fall off? |
| 09:58.44 | olafski | impressive :) |
| 10:01.20 | Elkano | Fisker, that thread feels so wrong... common sense and your name in one sentence... |
| 10:01.31 | Elkano | from a green... |
| 10:01.32 | Sixen | Lawl |
| 10:02.44 | Fisker | slaps Elkano around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:08.22 | A-KO | hmm |
| 10:08.24 | A-KO | so the question is |
| 10:08.45 | A-KO | if I order the iphone through AT&T, will it still get to my house on June 24th?..........Apple apparently makes sure of that, but AT&T I'm not so sure of :P |
| 10:10.08 | zenzio | the question is, does it matter? Unless you're going to parade around showing everyone you have it, a couple of days extra shouldn't kill you |
| 10:10.57 | Fisker | the question is |
| 10:11.02 | Fisker | what is there to parade around? |
| 10:11.08 | Fisker | because the iphone certainly isn't it |
| 10:11.41 | A-KO | ] |
| 10:12.04 | A-KO | certainly better than any of the current android phones :P |
| 10:12.14 | A-KO | (and I'm talking Evo) heh |
| 10:13.43 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 10:15.18 | A-KO | http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/14/htc-evo-4g-and-droid-incredible-suffering-from-unresponsive-scre/ < this is something I noticed when we got a droid at work a few weeks ago |
| 10:15.23 | A-KO | err, evo |
| 10:15.58 | A-KO | If there's one thing about Apple, it's that they actually care about the quality of the hardware they put out |
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| 10:38.17 | Wella_ | Ello der |
| 10:38.23 | zenzio | y helo thar |
| 10:38.38 | Wella_ | Would anyone know how to move the text of ChatFrameEditBoxHeader down by one pixel? Or ChatFrameEditBox up by one, either way. |
| 10:39.10 | zenzio | what is the header, a frame? |
| 10:39.53 | Wella_ | Well |
| 10:40.00 | Wella_ | You know in the editbox, the bit of text before you type? |
| 10:40.04 | Wella_ | Like "Say: " |
| 10:40.10 | Wella_ | It's that. |
| 10:40.25 | Wella_ | I've messed with the editbox and got a nice pixel font going on, but atm, that part is one pixel above the rest of the editbox. (I'm using Prat if that helps.) |
| 10:40.49 | zenzio | not really. Have you done any UI coding? |
| 10:41.01 | Wella_ | what do you mean? |
| 10:41.17 | Wella_ | Have I in the past or have I edited anything? |
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| 10:41.51 | zenzio | basically I am assuming that the ChatFrameEditBoxHeader is a frame or some derivative, in which case you should be able to call ClearAllPoints and SetPoint on it like any other frame |
| 10:42.01 | Wella_ | Hm |
| 10:42.07 | zenzio | but I can't check at the moment, so I thought maybe you had looked into it =) |
| 10:42.18 | Wella_ | Nah well I dunno much about Lua |
| 10:42.25 | Wella_ | Started learning and wrote wBind but then I gave up, really cba lol |
| 10:42.43 | Wella_ | I did learn the basics though so I now understand a lot more about how addons work... which is helpful. |
| 10:43.22 | zenzio | I know I've moved various parts of the chat frames around in the way I explained above, but never directly touched the header thing |
| 10:44.09 | Wella_ | Ok |
| 10:45.22 | Wella_ | It's beginning to work, just need to fine tune the position, I think |
| 10:45.35 | Wella_ | Seems like I have to position it relative to the chat frame. |
| 10:45.37 | Wella_ | Well, thanks. :) |
| 10:45.52 | zenzio | =) |
| 10:46.30 | Wella_ | Personally I wish there was a way to remove it entirely... still can't find one, lol./ |
| 10:50.19 | Wella_ | Oh and another tiny thing, do you know if it's possible to change the line height/spacing in the chat frame? (Again, I'm using Prat.) |
| 10:50.46 | zenzio | don't know, never tried that |
| 10:51.02 | Wella_ | Kay |
| 10:51.11 | Wella_ | I think I will just edit the pixel font itself to have a taller line height, see if that works |
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| 10:55.16 | Fisker | slaps robokitty around a bit with a large trout |
| 11:02.41 | zenzio | "Well, as a gnome, I don't care about the other 4 cities anymore. I'm gonna spend 97% of my /played time doing circles around Gnomeregan on my Swift Yellow Mechanostrider. " |
| 11:06.40 | Fisker | hey zenzio |
| 11:06.44 | Fisker | how can it be? |
| 11:23.33 | DWSR | Hey all |
| 11:23.52 | zenzio | ahoy |
| 11:24.32 | DWSR | How are you? |
| 11:25.02 | zenzio | tired. Pollen season obviously doesn't want to pass just yet |
| 11:25.35 | DWSR | Oh that sucks. |
| 11:31.34 | wereHamster | zenzio: best to stay in house and play WoW the whole day :) |
| 11:31.34 | Wobin | http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/3805/prpsk.12/0_3c9ff_6296033a_orig |
| 11:32.26 | Fisker | hey Wobin |
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| 11:43.48 | zenzio | so someone was asking what engine WoW uses... "The unreal engine. You can play Quake in WoW. " |
| 11:44.03 | DWSR | Lol |
| 11:49.14 | Fisker | slaps zenzio around a bit with a large trout |
| 11:54.08 | Torhal | Tuesdays - foo |
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| 11:54.37 | Torhal | First time I've gotten into serious coding in weeks, and the damn servers are going down. I should pay attention to which day it is. |
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| 11:55.10 | Aqua | ~wowalert |
| 11:55.20 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 12:01.15 | Fisker | owned Torhal |
| 12:01.22 | Fisker | i am very happy |
| 12:02.07 | Torhal | pisses on Fisker's shoes. |
| 12:02.54 | Adys | need help from someone on windows |
| 12:03.23 | zenzio | what do you need? |
| 12:03.47 | Adys | zenzio: http://www.filedropper.com/listfile |
| 12:03.49 | Adys | download this |
| 12:03.53 | Adys | open it in notepad |
| 12:04.17 | Adys | 1. is it slow to open? (> 3 seconds) |
| 12:05.07 | zenzio | for me (on Windows XP) it was instant |
| 12:05.19 | Adys | 2. scroll slowly by DRAGGING the scrollbar all the way towards the end. in the last few pixels (like last 10 pixels or so) of the scrollbar, does scrolling bug out? |
| 12:06.01 | Adys | 3. doubleclick the titlebar to make it go fullscreen. Does it appear to reload the whole file? (there should be lag) |
| 12:06.02 | zenzio | not as far as I can tell |
| 12:06.35 | zenzio | can't reproduce the maximize lag either |
| 12:06.45 | zenzio | whether I'm at beginning, end, or middle of the file when I do it |
| 12:07.13 | Adys | Thank you, that'll be it |
| 12:08.00 | Spejnar | Is there any planned downtime right now for EU login server? |
| 12:08.16 | mitch0 | adys: instant, no glitch, no lag (virtualbox xp) |
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| 12:08.36 | Adys | mitch0, thanks a lot, good to have a vbox test too |
| 12:09.18 | mitch0 | adys: although the file appears to be truncated |
| 12:09.26 | Adys | truncated? |
| 12:09.33 | mitch0 | last line ends with \BakedNpcText |
| 12:09.49 | mitch0 | instead of something like \BakedNpcTextures\.... |
| 12:10.05 | mitch0 | file is 606k here |
| 12:10.14 | zenzio | that's a failed download |
| 12:10.22 | Adys | Huh |
| 12:10.25 | Adys | its 3.1M |
| 12:10.40 | zenzio | Adys: it is the right size for me |
| 12:10.53 | Adys | mitch0: can you redownload? |
| 12:11.01 | zenzio | first and last lines being blank, last line with content being "MPQs-2\unconditional\Data#lichking.MPQ\World\Expansion02\Doodads\Generic\Wolvar\Wolvar_window01.M2" |
| 12:11.39 | Adys | Aye |
| 12:12.26 | mitch0 | ok, same results with whole file |
| 12:12.31 | Adys | k thanks a lot |
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| 12:20.26 | Adys | zenzio, mitch0 http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23193 http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23195 http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23196 |
| 12:20.58 | mitch0 | not gonna fix them for you :P |
| 12:21.47 | Adys | you should |
| 12:22.06 | mitch0 | also, someone sneaked in one before you finished your batch ;) |
| 12:23.02 | Adys | ya, ill teach him manners and fix his bug before he can say hello to his wife |
| 12:23.10 | mitch0 | :) |
| 12:23.57 | Maldivia | hmm, the bug that was sneaked in was mathematica related... why is he using the windows client through wine, when there's a linux native mathematica client :P |
| 12:25.45 | mitch0 | adys: also don't use notepad (and not just in wine :) |
| 12:27.19 | Adys | mitch0, I use it a lot in mpqeditor's preview in file |
| 12:27.47 | Adys | because wine can't launch directly a native app without a lot of hackery and im too lazy for that |
| 12:28.03 | Kalroth | lazy adys is lazy |
| 12:28.14 | Adys | ill show you lazy |
| 12:28.17 | Adys | go to bed and undress |
| 12:28.27 | Adys | ill join you in a bit cba right now |
| 12:28.31 | mitch0 | adys: just use another editor in wine? maybe even wordpad is better |
| 12:29.00 | Adys | mitch0, that would force me to reinstall another windows editor for each prefix |
| 12:29.26 | Adys | (and wordpad is NOT better to edit text files :p) |
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| 12:30.24 | Adys | ill see at some point if theres a way to call native apps depending on mime type |
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| 12:33.38 | mitch0 | rename supereditor.exe notepad.exe |
| 12:33.59 | Cairenn | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 12:34.08 | zenzio | Adys: the "scrolls to top when dragging scroll near bottom" sounds like something else... if I grab the scroll thumb and drag it well past the bottom of the *window* (not the scrollbar), it pops back to where the thumb was when the dragging starts |
| 12:34.13 | zenzio | but it's fine when I stay within the window |
| 12:34.27 | Adys | zenzio, its something else |
| 12:34.30 | zenzio | I would guess it's because the mouse coordinates are no longer inside the window, but that's guessing |
| 12:34.42 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Cairenn!! |
| 12:34.51 | Adys | you would have noticed if it was bugged on windows notepad |
| 12:35.02 | zenzio | Adys: okay |
| 12:35.16 | Adys | it's like theres 20px of dead scrollbar |
| 12:35.26 | Adys | the handle moves but not the window |
| 12:36.22 | zenzio | I see |
| 12:37.40 | zenzio | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/06/14/funny-pictures-like-fresh-tuna/ |
| 12:39.13 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4WlqoRaru0 |
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| 12:51.41 | zenzio | http://thereifixedit.com/2010/06/05/epic-kludge-photo-mad-engineering-wrought/ - looks like goblin engineering |
| 12:57.31 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=13705423442&sid=1 <-baww |
| 12:59.53 | olafski | lol |
| 13:01.01 | olafski | the lengths these guys go to.. |
| 13:01.32 | Fisker | sometimes i wish they would just get banned from the internet |
| 13:01.47 | olafski | see also www.whywasibanned.com ;) |
| 13:02.20 | olafski | "my dyslexic sister put it there" |
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| 13:19.34 | zenzio | http://clientsfromhell.net/post/698430596/make-them-disappear |
| 13:19.51 | Fisker | slaps zenzio around a bit with a large trout |
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| 13:32.49 | Wobin | Cairenn, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bTbAsmPOKo&feature=player_embedded |
| 13:34.18 | Cairenn | You come up with some of the oddest links Wobin :) |
| 13:34.45 | Wobin | Cairenn, ^^ |
| 13:34.51 | Wobin | the next few in that channel are pretty good |
| 13:34.54 | Cairenn | :) |
| 13:38.18 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ || 3.3.x ToC: 30300 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Blizzcon 2010 Oct 22 & 23! || 3.3.5 PTR Patch Notes are up: http://cot.ag/bY6mEm || AVR broken in 3.3.5 http://cot.ag/aYo2YE || Are you going to BlizzCon? http://tinyurl.com/22kjfxu || "zenzelezz: I am pretty picky about my porn." - Lunessa |
| 13:43.23 | Wobin | what changed? |
| 13:43.39 | Wobin | I wish my client gave the old and the new on topic set |
| 13:44.34 | Cairenn | The old was saying happy birthday to Mr. Seerah |
| 13:59.34 | Fisker | starts a "Free Vuvuzela for everyone"-program in Cairenn's neighborhood |
| 14:01.53 | Kalroth | Wobin: We need a git repository for topic changes |
| 14:02.40 | mitch0 | fisker: we'll get a vuvuzela filter on national tv from today ;) |
| 14:02.48 | Zyn | I will sing you the song of my people! BZZZZZZZZZRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ |
| 14:03.18 | Shirik | ....................... |
| 14:03.22 | Shirik | don't make me KB you |
| 14:03.26 | Zyn | :[ |
| 14:03.36 | Shirik | I actually had to write a wikipedia filter |
| 14:03.37 | Shirik | for that |
| 14:03.43 | Shirik | incredibly depressing |
| 14:03.46 | olafski | awesome wobin :D |
| 14:03.53 | Kalroth | KB must mean kiss a bunny |
| 14:04.48 | Shirik | you are a sad, strange little man |
| 14:04.50 | Shirik | and you have my pity |
| 14:06.43 | Fisker | so what mitch0 ? |
| 14:06.52 | Fisker | i love you Shirik |
| 14:06.57 | Shirik | i love you Fisker |
| 14:07.40 | Lopeppeppy | Oh my god. It should not take 20 minutes to find a stupid group on Facebook. Rawr to that. |
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| 14:08.00 | Fisker | you're right |
| 14:08.10 | Fisker | infact it should not take anything to anything because it shouldn't exist to begin with |
| 14:08.25 | olafski | incoming predictable re.. too slow |
| 14:08.28 | Shirik | ok |
| 14:08.30 | Lopeppeppy | Trust me, much hate for having to go searching for it in the first place. |
| 14:08.33 | Shirik | I'm probably evil for thinking this |
| 14:08.36 | Shirik | but http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/cf1n2/holy_fuck_i_just_saw_someone_get_hit_by_a_train/c0s4nfi?context=3 |
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| 14:08.52 | Shirik | that russia joke is quite win |
| 14:08.57 | Fisker | pwnt olafski |
| 14:09.30 | olafski | shirik: yes :P |
| 14:09.37 | olafski | though what does this have to do with being hit by a train? :S |
| 14:10.10 | olafski | oh it was a comment on a story about that |
| 14:10.29 | Fisker | slaps olafski around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:12.07 | Zyn | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vuvuzela&oldid=368043809 |
| 14:12.13 | Zyn | oh I see what you mean |
| 14:12.31 | Wobin | shirik: dear god, the russia joke |
| 14:12.44 | Fisker | Zyn Wobin |
| 14:12.55 | Shirik | you HAVE to read the comment first |
| 14:13.04 | Wobin | oh I did |
| 14:13.24 | Wobin | it is both brilliant, yet utterly tasteless |
| 14:13.38 | olafski | it's so apt.. the story happened in russia and the guy lost his arms, very nice |
| 14:13.38 | Shirik | yes |
| 14:13.42 | Wobin | hundreds of redditors squirm as they attempt to justify the sidevote |
| 14:14.11 | Shirik | wtf is a sidevote anyway |
| 14:14.15 | Shirik | I thought it was a joke |
| 14:14.17 | Shirik | it doesn't exist |
| 14:14.27 | Wobin | yes |
| 14:14.29 | Shirik | (I don't use reddit) |
| 14:14.36 | Wobin | but it's so apt for the joke |
| 14:14.53 | Wobin | anyway, gnight |
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| 14:15.57 | Fisker | you |
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| 14:17.56 | Fisker | you kd3 |
| 14:19.17 | Shirik | so |
| 14:19.22 | Shirik | pending changes goes live today |
| 14:19.23 | Shirik | yay |
| 14:19.32 | Shirik | how long until it gets abused? |
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| 14:24.22 | Shirik | hahahaha |
| 14:24.23 | Shirik | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment_and_arts/10317767.stm |
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| 14:27.54 | olafski | as if they use the same microphone to record the commentator and the stadium |
| 14:28.56 | Shirik | yeah |
| 14:28.58 | Shirik | I was thinking the same thing |
| 14:29.01 | Shirik | like |
| 14:29.08 | Shirik | that's got to be one of the stupidest arguments I've heard |
| 14:29.48 | olafski | the belgian broadcasts have a lot less vuvuzela noise than the dutch |
| 14:29.58 | olafski | they just tune down the stadium noise altogether |
| 14:30.06 | olafski | it's not like you hear anything else from the stadium anyway... |
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| 14:30.41 | Lopeppeppy | It might not be *easy*, but they can do anything they decide they want to do. |
| 14:32.18 | Shirik | sagely nod |
| 14:39.56 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
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| 14:42.01 | Fisker | you just got trouted Shirik |
| 14:42.41 | Shirik | she should not lock the open door |
| 14:42.46 | olafski | slaps a large trout around a bit with fisker |
| 14:42.51 | olafski | you just got fiskered, trout |
| 14:42.53 | Shirik | full moon is on the rise and he's not a man anymore |
| 14:43.11 | Fisker | slaps olafski around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:43.39 | olafski | so are you getting the new xbox fisker!? |
| 14:43.46 | olafski | I know you're a console junkie |
| 14:43.47 | Fisker | no olafski |
| 14:44.03 | olafski | I am! |
| 14:44.23 | olafski | gonna spend my first paycheck on that! |
| 14:44.27 | Shirik | new xbox? |
| 14:44.39 | olafski | yes |
| 14:44.44 | Shirik | what is this |
| 14:44.44 | olafski | very originally named xbox 360 slim |
| 14:44.55 | Shirik | but I already have a 360 |
| 14:45.00 | Shirik | why would I want it? |
| 14:45.02 | olafski | announced and released last night |
| 14:45.10 | Shirik | great |
| 14:45.10 | Shirik | so |
| 14:45.13 | Shirik | they have overheating issues |
| 14:45.16 | Shirik | so they make it smaller? |
| 14:45.16 | olafski | why you want it is up to you.. or why you don't want it ;) |
| 14:45.23 | olafski | they hardly have overheating issues nowadays |
| 14:45.28 | Shirik | no |
| 14:45.31 | Shirik | that's bullshit |
| 14:45.41 | Shirik | they hacked together a solution |
| 14:45.42 | olafski | this one has a 250GB disk, it's black, "natal ready" and built in wifi |
| 14:45.45 | Shirik | instead of fixing the problem |
| 14:45.51 | olafski | what is the hack? |
| 14:45.56 | olafski | I don't really follow this stuff |
| 14:46.01 | Shirik | put a bigger heatsink |
| 14:46.04 | Shirik | the problem isn't really the overheating |
| 14:46.07 | Shirik | that's just the trigger |
| 14:46.08 | olafski | I thought they made the power supply smaller |
| 14:46.23 | olafski | i.e. 175 instead of 200+ watt so it produces less heat |
| 14:46.24 | Shirik | the problem was the mainboard is subject to fracturing several traces when it expands due to heating |
| 14:46.45 | olafski | hmkay.. maybe they fixed that when they made it smaller, I don't know ;) |
| 14:46.46 | Shirik | so they cool that area better |
| 14:46.52 | Shirik | rather than actually fixing the mainboard |
| 14:46.53 | olafski | they also put a quieter fan in the new one |
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| 14:47.19 | olafski | quieter fan + bigger hdd is enough reason for me to want one =) I don't really like the shiny black but it'll do |
| 14:47.28 | Shirik | I have no reason to get it really |
| 14:48.13 | olafski | that's ok.. I still think it's a good move =) was pretty big news that they announced and released it the same day.. gotta suck though if you bought an elite in the past few months |
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| 14:49.39 | olafski | they even put in a little oprah moment, saying that everyone at the press conference would get one of the new xboxes ;) |
| 14:50.17 | Fisker | console fags = console |
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| 14:51.07 | foxlit | olafski: this one has a 250GB disk, it's black, "natal ready" and built in wifi << so almost a PS3? |
| 14:51.10 | foxlit | <rimshot/> |
| 14:51.21 | olafski | but with actual games |
| 14:51.23 | olafski | bazinga |
| 14:51.34 | Fisker | but with a <720p resolution |
| 14:51.34 | durcyn | never thought i'd see the day a microsoft product had fanboys |
| 14:51.44 | Fisker | <insert clever zing here> |
| 14:51.49 | haste | ~zing |
| 14:51.53 | olafski | where have you been since 2001 durcyn? |
| 14:51.57 | haste | purl: you've failed me! |
| 14:52.05 | Fisker | you failed me haste |
| 14:52.08 | Fisker | prepare to be boarded |
| 14:52.10 | olafski | ever since Halo microsoft products have had fanboys :) |
| 14:52.12 | haste | you have failed me Fisker |
| 14:52.15 | Fisker | no |
| 14:52.18 | haste | yes |
| 14:52.21 | Fisker | no |
| 14:52.26 | haste | yes |
| 14:52.29 | Fisker | no |
| 14:52.31 | haste | no? |
| 14:52.34 | Fisker | in b4 Shirik wishes EDI was back |
| 14:52.39 | Kalroth | no |
| 14:52.42 | Fisker | yes |
| 14:52.43 | haste | no |
| 14:52.44 | Kalroth | no |
| 14:52.48 | wereHamster | maybe? |
| 14:52.48 | Fisker | yes |
| 14:53.00 | Kalroth | Damn it, I broke it :( |
| 14:53.09 | Fisker | no |
| 14:53.27 | durcyn | olafski: halo^H^H^H^H Marathon was a bungie product. we don't talk about bungie anymore. |
| 14:53.45 | Fisker | Same shit |
| 14:55.07 | olafski | if by "we" you mean you that's ok.. we still do |
| 14:55.25 | olafski | I've been a microsoft fanboy before the xbox came out though I think.. not a big fan of halo but I like it from time to time |
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| 15:03.12 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/701088520 |
| 15:05.26 | olafski | http://yfrog.com/2g64aj :-) |
| 15:05.26 | Lopeppeppy | My cranky pants know no bounds! |
| 15:07.33 | olafski | them's some big pants |
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| 15:08.08 | Lopeppeppy | Them's some nasty crankies. |
| 15:08.31 | olafski | say I'm ordering an "all in one" package (telephone, internets, television) and they offer a choice of a "HD receiver" and a "digital receiver", at 80 and 40 euro respectively.. I would assume a HD receiver is also a digital receiver so getting both is useless.. right? =) |
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| 15:10.27 | A-KO^ | yes |
| 15:10.37 | olafski | it sounds kinda cheap.. can't be right |
| 15:10.48 | olafski | my parents said theirs cost more than 200 euro |
| 15:11.07 | Seerah | olafski: do you have to give it back when you stop service? |
| 15:11.23 | olafski | don't think so.. it doesn't say that anyway |
| 15:11.27 | olafski | it does say that it's a smart card though |
| 15:11.39 | olafski | actually it says "with smart card" |
| 15:12.31 | Seerah | our comcast one doesn't work without the card, iirc, to basically hook us into comcast |
| 15:12.32 | olafski | oh, I guess that smart card is something I stick in the receiver to actually be able to decode the signal or something.. why does this stuff have to be complicated, I'm used to just sticking a cable in the back of the tv ;) |
| 15:12.36 | cog|sleep | if it's so cheap you're either going to have a contract or you're only leasing it |
| 15:12.37 | Lopeppeppy | Are you paying that *per month* ? |
| 15:13.19 | olafski | no that seems to be one time |
| 15:13.34 | olafski | the monthly fee is 51 euro |
| 15:13.48 | Lopeppeppy | Then I'm betting it's just leased equipment you give back. |
| 15:13.54 | Seerah | but like cog said, you're either leasing it (have to give it back), which means they can charge again for it to someone else, or you'll be locked into a contract |
| 15:13.59 | olafski | I think my TV has a smart card slot too which was supposed to function as a receiver too |
| 15:14.05 | olafski | no clue if that is compatible though |
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| 15:14.27 | olafski | guess I better just call them about this stuff.. they have an online chat thing but it's never available |
| 15:14.33 | cogwheel | olafski: it may very well be...in that case you could probably just get the card |
| 15:14.45 | Seerah | yeah, def ask |
| 15:15.07 | olafski | that would be best I guess.. also saves me from having another box beneath my TV |
| 15:15.12 | olafski | and from getting another remote =) |
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| 15:34.42 | foxlit | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ddvKi-GYjg |
| 15:34.59 | Adys | "It's not clear exactly when Adobe will fulfill its promise of cross-platform 64-bit support. We're starting to wonder if it will be sometime around the official release of the HTML5-based Duke Nukem Forever." |
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| 15:42.53 | Lunessa | station |
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| 15:46.45 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa. |
| 15:46.53 | Lunessa | Morning. |
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| 15:57.51 | cogwheel | o look a tuesday... |
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| 16:00.23 | Lopeppeppy | Yuppers. Maintenance! |
| 16:00.53 | Lunessa | This should be on my door. http://ihasahotdog.com/2010/06/12/funny-dog-pictures-i-iz-killing-you/ |
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| 16:01.43 | cogwheel | 444551 |
| 16:01.46 | Lopeppeppy | They'd fire me. |
| 16:02.00 | cogwheel | erm... least it wasn't my pw |
| 16:02.04 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, I had two sheeple arguing with each other, via me, over what to do with their web page. I nearly killed them both. |
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| 16:03.22 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: A guy snaked my parking spot forcing me to park a nearly a half-mile from the building. It's 90 outside. I'm waiting for him to need tech support ... |
| 16:03.42 | Lopeppeppy | I'd be shoving a banana up his tailpipe. |
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| 16:04.10 | cogwheel | Lunessa: i think my mother-in-law would have something to say about that :> |
| 16:04.12 | Lopeppeppy | Senior prank -- pull the valve stems from the school buses. Except that jacking the school buses in the parking lot cracked the asphalt, and he has to pay to repave the lot... Ouch. |
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| 16:05.10 | Lunessa | As he walked past me, he gave me a dirty look. I'm severely tempted to 'accidentally' restrict his computer access. |
| 16:05.19 | Lunessa | cogwheel: :P |
| 16:05.26 | Lopeppeppy | erase his preferences file!!!! |
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| 16:06.52 | zenzelezz | Lunessa: plant porn on his 'puter and report him to corporate |
| 16:06.56 | Lopeppeppy | I mean, oops, it corrupted. |
| 16:11.00 | Fisker | makes a fart on zenzelezz |
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| 16:12.26 | cogwheel | http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_lightning_strikes_jesus_statue |
| 16:14.18 | Fisker | hey cogwheel |
| 16:14.34 | Fisker | wheres your god now? |
| 16:15.01 | cogwheel | in my imagination, like everyone else's |
| 16:15.26 | Lunessa | http://failbook.com/2010/06/14/funny-facebook-fails-calculus-jokes-slippery-slope-win/ |
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| 16:19.36 | Aelobin | is there any way to get active set bonuses? i'm guessing tooltip scanning is one option, but is there any other ways? |
| 16:20.50 | Lunessa | Not of which I am aware. |
| 16:32.22 | Adys | zenzelezz: ping |
| 16:32.53 | zenzelezz | pong |
| 16:33.52 | Adys | zenzelezz: did you have word wrap enabled in notepad? |
| 16:34.15 | zenzelezz | no |
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| 16:34.22 | Blia | hi |
| 16:35.18 | batrick | i love math puns |
| 16:35.22 | batrick | ty Lunessa |
| 16:35.39 | Lunessa | You're welcome. |
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| 16:43.34 | Adys | Show them while you can, Internet exhibitionists. Chatroulette is working on image-recognition software that will filter out shots of male genitalia. The website's founder, Andrey Ternovskiy, hopes that blocking the offending members will help clean up Chatroulette's reputation. |
| 16:43.45 | zenzelezz | I am amused: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=13705343548 |
| 16:44.46 | durcyn | Adys: tits are still allowed though, presumably |
| 16:44.52 | Adys | yeah. |
| 16:45.18 | Fisker | KIRBYS EPIC YARN! |
| 16:45.20 | Fisker | zomg |
| 16:46.07 | Lunessa | Adys: The pun is mild, with a light flavor, baked well, and delivered easily. I give it 3 out of 5 stars. |
| 16:48.29 | Fisker | epic Lunessa |
| 16:49.07 | batrick | no u |
| 16:50.34 | NightHawkTheSane | I'd give it 3.5, a little extra for the nice subtleness. |
| 16:50.53 | Fisker | nintendo knows how to do press conferences |
| 16:50.57 | Fisker | just prepend everything with epic |
| 16:52.54 | Jamash | does it print money? |
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| 16:56.39 | Fisker | btw |
| 16:56.48 | Fisker | Why is Nintendo dissing the 3D glasses |
| 16:56.54 | Fisker | and then claiming they said it was easy? |
| 16:57.34 | Fisker | HOW DID THAT VIRTUALBOY PROJECT GO EH? |
| 16:57.34 | Fisker | Glasses that need an ac adapter and a stand to not rip your face off? |
| 16:57.34 | Fisker | hurr |
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| 17:00.49 | malreth | my lunch date stood me up. on top of that, she's with another man right now. |
| 17:01.28 | Fisker | punch him in the face |
| 17:01.58 | malreth | Fisker: i can't really... he's her 1 year old son |
| 17:02.08 | malreth | and he has a fever |
| 17:02.23 | malreth | but if it weren't for that fever... bam, zoom... |
| 17:02.26 | Fisker | But then he's weak |
| 17:02.45 | zenzelezz | calling a one-year old a "man" is interesting |
| 17:03.21 | malreth | zenzelezz: so is his mother sending me pics of him grabbing her boobs |
| 17:03.42 | Fisker | wat. |
| 17:04.45 | malreth | anything interesting happening today? |
| 17:05.24 | batrick | Well I think everyone needed those insights into malreth's love life. |
| 17:07.08 | Lopeppeppy | I took over the universe. |
| 17:07.09 | Lopeppeppy | Worship me. |
| 17:07.30 | Lopeppeppy | That's about the only thing of interest over here. |
| 17:08.36 | Seerah | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 17:09.06 | Jamash | worships Lopeppeppy |
| 17:09.29 | Dashkal | provides offerings of baked goods |
| 17:11.39 | Lopeppeppy | ... Dashkal, your goddess is very angry that you bring Draino to her altar. |
| 17:11.44 | Lopeppeppy | huggles Seerah. |
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| 17:12.14 | Blia | re |
| 17:13.42 | cogwheel | mi |
| 17:13.47 | Blia | in addons code, I sometimes, see function names like "NameOfAddon_Onload()".. is it on purpose ? Could I name this same function "NameOfAddon_Frame1_Checkbutton()" for example ? |
| 17:13.59 | olafski | yes |
| 17:14.02 | cogwheel | you can name it anything you want |
| 17:14.05 | Lunessa | malreth: Aside from Lopeppeppy and Seerah hugging? |
| 17:14.13 | Blia | so the "_OnLoad" doesn't matter.. ok |
| 17:14.16 | Seerah | fa |
| 17:14.16 | olafski | you have to manually bind that method to an event anyway, but it's a good convention |
| 17:14.22 | olafski | blia: the NameOfAddon doesn't matter either ;) |
| 17:14.24 | cogwheel | ~Seerah++ |
| 17:14.26 | malreth | Lunessa: these are good things |
| 17:14.35 | Blia | ok olafski ;) |
| 17:14.48 | Seerah | frame:SetScript("OnEvent", EventFunctionOfDooooom) |
| 17:16.08 | Thunder_Child | so |
| 17:16.36 | Seerah | la |
| 17:17.05 | Seerah | (<-- self-professed solfege nerd) |
| 17:17.44 | Lunessa | ti |
| 17:17.53 | cogwheel | da |
| 17:17.59 | cogwheel | or frikkin da even |
| 17:18.10 | cogwheel | c-c-c-combo breaker |
| 17:18.16 | Seerah | do you mean da as in yes? |
| 17:18.21 | Seerah | or do? |
| 17:18.22 | cogwheel | la ti frikkin da |
| 17:18.35 | Seerah | ohhh.... la dee da |
| 17:18.44 | Seerah | spoils all the fun |
| 17:18.50 | cogwheel | no me :P |
| 17:19.07 | Seerah | takes solfege too seriously, methinks |
| 17:19.13 | Lunessa | It's ok, to get like this I have to be cranked up on booze and pills! |
| 17:19.48 | Thunder_Child | though it would have been sol in Solfège proper |
| 17:19.56 | Seerah | this is true |
| 17:25.14 | Fisker | slaps Thunder_Child around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:28.07 | Dashkal | Lopeppeppy: You... bake draino? |
| 17:28.10 | Dashkal | flees |
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| 17:38.46 | olafski | shirik: as you predicted the shite has begun with the wow patch.. getting disconnects in EU now ;) |
| 17:39.34 | olafski | (I assume EU and US are somehow connected through battlenet? else it's just a coincidence) |
| 17:40.46 | Fisker | 3.3.5 is out this week? |
| 17:41.36 | zenzelezz | what patch? |
| 17:42.23 | olafski | it's a preparation for a patch |
| 17:42.25 | olafski | 24h maintenance |
| 17:44.28 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: stop being maliciously incorrect |
| 17:44.56 | malreth | that's my job |
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| 17:46.09 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.mcsweeneys.net/links/monologues/15comicsans.html |
| 17:46.12 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ hilarous |
| 17:46.52 | Fisker | dreams about Thunder_Child |
| 17:47.12 | Thunder_Child | yes, i usually cause nightmares |
| 17:47.21 | Fisker | why do you call me maliciously incorrect? |
| 17:48.24 | malreth | comic sans, you're still a douchebag |
| 17:48.27 | Thunder_Child | thats like asking 'why do i call the sky blue' |
| 17:49.53 | Fisker | humor me |
| 17:50.39 | Thunder_Child | ok..... Knock Knock |
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| 17:50.48 | Fisker | no |
| 17:51.08 | malreth | WHO'S THERE? |
| 17:51.18 | Thunder_Child | well i cant help it if you dont like knock knock jokes |
| 17:51.27 | Thunder_Child | malreth: i wasnt knocking at your door |
| 17:51.38 | malreth | IS THAT THUNDER_CHILD? I TOLD YOU TO QUIT MASTURBATING ON MY FRONT PORCH! |
| 17:51.42 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: "Enough of this bullshit. I'm gonna go get hammered with Papyrus. " |
| 17:52.01 | kd3 | grr at bnet maintenance |
| 17:52.13 | Thunder_Child | malreth, please. it's your back porch. |
| 17:53.46 | malreth | Thunder_Child: i sometimes forget these things |
| 17:54.27 | olafski | nice comic sans monologue :) |
| 17:54.41 | olafski | was afraid it would be yet another qq about comic sans |
| 18:02.36 | Dashkal | ~wowalert |
| 18:02.37 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 18:03.29 | NightHawkTheSane | also interesting: http://www.forbes.com/2010/06/04/migration-moving-wealthy-interactive-counties-map.html?preload=39099# |
| 18:03.47 | NightHawkTheSane | although, i really wish the data was presented better, and with some general analysis/conclusions |
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| 18:30.29 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: The map should be scalable too. It's misleading is some respects because scaling compresses the image. |
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| 18:36.23 | Spejnar | any site where I can run lua? |
| 18:37.47 | malreth | you can run a single line of code here |
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| 18:38.04 | Spejnar | nm, had my wowlua loaded it seems |
| 18:42.34 | cogwheel | Spejnar: |
| 18:42.37 | cogwheel | lua> print "hi |
| 18:42.38 | lua_bot | cogwheel: luabot:1: unfinished string near '<eof>' |
| 18:42.42 | cogwheel | lua> print "hi" |
| 18:42.42 | lua_bot | cogwheel: hi |
| 18:43.00 | cogwheel | also http://wowprogramming.com/utils/weblua |
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| 18:46.42 | Spejnar | cogwheel: bit too much code for running it in here ^^ |
| 18:47.11 | cogwheel | http://codepad.org/ |
| 18:47.20 | cogwheel | or you could get the standalone lua interpreter |
| 18:48.01 | Spejnar | im using wowlua, didnt think I had it loaded, thats why I asked ^^ |
| 18:48.07 | cogwheel | ah |
| 18:50.20 | Cloudwolf | wow "updating failed" thats a realy nice error |
| 18:51.16 | Cloudwolf | honest questiona ny one else having updating issue? through the wow launcher? |
| 18:51.39 | durcyn | http://www.vuvuzela.fm/ |
| 18:52.13 | cogwheel | Cloudwolf: just fired up my launcher and it seems to think there's a patch but it's not downloading anything... |
| 18:52.46 | Cloudwolf | hmm now it stopped trying to donwlod a patch |
| 18:52.48 | Cloudwolf | odd |
| 18:52.53 | Cloudwolf | it hit 3% said failed and closed |
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| 18:53.01 | Cloudwolf | turned it on again thought aobut updating didn't and showed me my menu lol |
| 18:53.09 | PProvost | One of my guildies had the updating error |
| 18:53.15 | PProvost | He ran repair.exe and it fixed it |
| 18:53.16 | cogwheel | i ran wow.exe and logged in. it's now Downloading Update 0% |
| 18:53.18 | PProvost | ymmv |
| 18:53.31 | PProvost | cogwheel: that's exactly what he saw |
| 18:53.31 | cogwheel | 0% .... 0% .... |
| 18:53.37 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:53.38 | PProvost | Mine went by in 20 sec |
| 18:53.41 | Cloudwolf | lol wow messed something up |
| 18:53.42 | Dagmar | Did they patch today? |
| 18:53.45 | Dagmar | goes to look |
| 18:53.45 | PProvost | No patch |
| 18:53.48 | PProvost | Just download stuff |
| 18:53.53 | Dagmar | Oh |
| 18:53.58 | PProvost | Well... not 3.3.5 |
| 18:54.00 | PProvost | Just "stuff" |
| 18:54.03 | PProvost | :P |
| 18:54.14 | Dagmar | Likely assets for it |
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| 18:54.41 | Cruciformer | evening all |
| 18:54.43 | foxlit | That'd be weird. |
| 18:54.50 | foxlit | Seeing as how the background downloader could get that. |
| 18:55.19 | PProvost | Mighta been a hotfix for something |
| 18:55.25 | Cruciformer | this aint a wow specific question but theres a lot of lua-heads in here. Anyone familiar with embedding lua in their own apps? |
| 18:56.59 | Dagmar | I'm pretty sure that's in lua's build docs |
| 18:57.11 | MentalPower|Work | it is, its pretty simple |
| 18:57.17 | MentalPower|Work | like 4 lines of code |
| 18:57.25 | Dagmar | The impression I got from sorting through it is that it wasn't exactly meant to be used standalong, but that it was _expected_ to be bound into another binary |
| 18:57.30 | MentalPower|Work | just read PiL |
| 18:57.32 | Dagmar | SHould be e-z |
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| 18:57.56 | Dagmar | er s/standalong/standalone/ |
| 18:58.44 | cogwheel | http://www.lua.org/pil/24.html |
| 18:59.26 | foxlit | I'm surprised how infrequently people writing "truncate string with ellipsis if it doesn't fit" get it right |
| 18:59.33 | foxlit | "Wrath of the Lich Kin..." |
| 18:59.42 | foxlit | I'm pretty sure that ... is longer than g. |
| 18:59.54 | nevcairiel | no way |
| 19:00.02 | Dagmar | I see it all the time |
| 19:00.20 | cogwheel | if they used ⦠it would at least be equal |
| 19:00.35 | cogwheel | well, except for UTF-8 |
| 19:00.58 | MentalPower|Work | King = 4 chars, Kin... = 6 chars |
| 19:01.09 | malreth | you're supposed to truncate to a pixel length, not character count |
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| 19:01.26 | foxlit | Of course, my example doesn't make sense if you've been paying attention |
| 19:01.30 | MentalPower|Work | unless you use the actual ellipsis character |
| 19:02.19 | zenzelezz | http://www.pillowtie.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3&Itemid=6 |
| 19:04.13 | Dagmar | MentalPower|Work: Regardless, the function most people use is a hack. Ellipses should break on syllables, not letters, just like a hyphenation. |
| 19:04.51 | MentalPower|Work | so it should actually be "Wrath of the Lich..." ? |
| 19:04.55 | Dagmar | Yes. |
| 19:04.59 | Lunessa | Yet more proof that most people sleep through their grammar classes. |
| 19:05.09 | Cloudwolf | well yep 0% downlaoded wtf did blizzard do to crap their game? |
| 19:05.23 | nevcairiel | just ignore the downloader |
| 19:05.27 | nevcairiel | and go play |
| 19:05.41 | MentalPower|Work | <--- Non-native speaker, we never covered ellipses in class (or in advanced English in college for that matter) |
| 19:06.00 | Cloudwolf | nevcairiel i mean ilogged in and got a downloading screen |
| 19:06.04 | Cloudwolf | at 11% downloaded lol |
| 19:06.35 | Dagmar | MentalPower|Work: Who ya think most of the people using the kludgey function are? |
| 19:06.46 | Dagmar | (sadly, most of them are envlish-native) |
| 19:06.47 | Lunessa | MentalPower|Work: Most often, the largest hurdle to learning the grammar of a new language is people unclear on the grammar of their own langage, so they get all mucked up trying to learn the new rules. |
| 19:06.58 | Dagmar | er english |
| 19:07.18 | Lunessa | brb, cookies |
| 19:07.42 | MentalPower|Work | I'm just saying that rules on using ellipsis aren't covered often |
| 19:07.46 | cogwheel | PProvost: deleting WDB/Cache seems to have fixed it |
| 19:08.55 | Dagmar | MentalPower|Work: It falls under what I'd call "piddling stuff" so it's no suprise it's not covered |
| 19:09.16 | Lunessa | Grammar rules for English are mess anyway. |
| 19:09.19 | Lopeppeppy | steals the cookies. |
| 19:09.30 | Lunessa | fudge-stripe cookies. |
| 19:09.50 | Dagmar | Hyphenation is becoming less and less important nowadays because we've got proportional fonts and it's less effort to split lines on word boundaries and just rejustify the text |
| 19:10.13 | Dagmar | It's mainly an artifact of replaceable type |
| 19:10.19 | malreth | hyphenation is still necessary for justified text |
| 19:10.21 | Dagmar | er moveable |
| 19:10.35 | Dagmar | malreth: Not when you can just slip in a few extra pixels |
| 19:11.35 | malreth | Dagmar: nope. sometimes you have to have huge gaps between words |
| 19:11.45 | Dagmar | That whole "english is a bitch" thing makes it much more complex for software to accurately spot syllable boundaries |
| 19:12.09 | cogwheel | Dagmar: Donald Knuth would squish you where you stand |
| 19:12.18 | Dagmar | If your gaps are that huge, either you're writing a document involving complex chemical names, or something's gone horribly wrong |
| 19:12.20 | kd3 | damned english |
| 19:12.35 | nevcairiel | Or your column is too small |
| 19:12.42 | Dagmar | cogwheel: I actually had to write functions for both of these damn things about a decade ago |
| 19:13.12 | cogwheel | "damn things" is appropriate because a) it's hardly trivial, and b) doing it really well makes far better results |
| 19:13.24 | cogwheel | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TeX#Hyphenation_and_justification |
| 19:14.07 | Dagmar | cogwheel: Wow. I see people have made it even more complex heheh |
| 19:14.14 | Dagmar | ("it" being the problem) |
| 19:14.24 | cogwheel | yes. because they're thinking like text designers not developers ;) |
| 19:14.32 | malreth | cogwheel++ |
| 19:14.37 | malreth | bingo |
| 19:15.14 | Dagmar | I'll stand behind "English is not regular" |
| 19:15.26 | cogwheel | no natural language is |
| 19:15.29 | mikma | engrish |
| 19:15.37 | cogwheel | but english is certainly worse than many |
| 19:16.05 | Torhal | So...is anyone actually logged into WoW at this moment? |
| 19:16.19 | malreth | Torhal: what's a WoW? |
| 19:16.20 | cogwheel | WoW? What's that? |
| 19:16.25 | cogwheel | jinx! |
| 19:16.33 | kd3 | yar |
| 19:16.34 | malreth | buys cogwheel a Coke |
| 19:16.41 | cogwheel | caffeinates |
| 19:16.48 | malreth | the jinks is brokens |
| 19:17.15 | kd3 | ignore the launcher and start wow directly to get the tools patch |
| 19:17.20 | Torhal | You know, that company that makes Teddy Ruxpin - Worlds of Wonder. |
| 19:17.29 | Torhal | cackles maniacally. |
| 19:18.14 | Torhal | I always start WoW directly and I'm told that it failed to apply the patch |
| 19:19.17 | Dagmar | TorHal: What about them? |
| 19:19.20 | Dagmar | Are they making kits now? |
| 19:19.44 | Torhal | No idea. cogwheel and malreth asked what WoW was, so I gave an answer. |
| 19:20.20 | cogwheel | oh look... teddy's gone digital |
| 19:20.50 | Dagmar | Yeah because where you gon' find these "tapes" now? ;) |
| 19:21.17 | cogwheel | Torhal: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25399822275&sid=1 |
| 19:21.42 | Torhal | cogwheel: Moo. It finally patched. |
| 19:21.43 | malreth | you shoulda seen the Teddy Ruxpin models that used phonographs |
| 19:21.48 | Torhal | Hah |
| 19:21.51 | malreth | frightened poor children to death |
| 19:22.07 | Dagmar | I can imagine. |
| 19:22.20 | Dagmar | The needle hits a scratch, and poor Teddy has some kinda seizure. |
| 19:22.23 | Cloudwolf | what does a tools patch even mean? |
| 19:22.26 | malreth | No you can't, Dagmar... No... *shudder* you can't. |
| 19:22.45 | kd3 | Cloudwolf, the launcher |
| 19:22.45 | malreth | stares blankly into the distance |
| 19:22.52 | Cloudwolf | k |
| 19:22.57 | Dagmar | malreth: Yeah I can... It took me awhile to figure out how to generate those tapes |
| 19:23.09 | Dagmar | The initial results were creepy as hell |
| 19:23.21 | Dagmar | "Oh god we need an exorcist" |
| 19:23.41 | Dagmar | I failed terribly one one attempt, recorded the voice on the wrong head |
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| 19:28.07 | Torhal | ... |
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| 19:36.43 | alestane | Interesting coincidence after yesterday's conversation: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1687 |
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| 19:44.51 | Thunder_Child | maybe there is a spy among us |
| 19:45.06 | cogwheel | /tinfoilhat |
| 19:47.07 | tem | alestane, want to fill me in on the context of that? |
| 19:47.23 | tem | I haven't followed QC in a LONG time |
| 19:47.46 | A-KO^ | http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/t-mobile-every-phone-is-free-june-19/ |
| 19:48.13 | alestane | Actually, just the reference to dark 'n' Stormies, which I was discussing in here last night. |
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| 20:10.32 | malreth | BOO! http://austinist.com/2010/06/15/cathedral_of_junk_to_be_dismantled.php |
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| 20:14.01 | Spejnar | anyone know how my boost-char can be locked out from dungeons(too many recently) while my alt isnt? Doesnt make sense.. |
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| 20:28.51 | Fisker | lolwat |
| 20:29.08 | Fisker | after all the shit PS3 has gotten from Valve they're going to port Portal 2 to PS3 as well |
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| 20:44.11 | Lunessa | This is too much fun: http://www.wired.com/reviews/product/pr_fetish_lego_lamborghini |
| 20:44.12 | Fisker | hey robokitty |
| 20:44.15 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
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| 20:52.05 | Kraps | hey all |
| 20:52.16 | zenzelezz | hey just Kraps |
| 20:52.36 | Kraps | i'm eating cereal |
| 20:52.47 | Kraps | your argument is invalid |
| 20:53.35 | zenzelezz | the whole "<apparently random> - your argument is invalid" is just stupid |
| 20:54.02 | Fisker | my hair is a bird your argument is invalid zenzelezz |
| 20:54.15 | Kraps | zenzelezz: memes are fun |
| 20:54.19 | Kraps | your argument is invalid |
| 20:54.34 | zenzelezz | Kraps: *some* memes are fun |
| 20:54.59 | zenzelezz | "your argument is invalid" is just a way to say "I lack both arguments and the creative skill to conceal this" |
| 20:56.30 | Kraps | zenzelezz: if used seriously, yes. i never use memes seriously |
| 20:56.49 | malreth | i only use them ironically |
| 20:57.40 | zenzelezz | it was fine until everyone started using it all the time |
| 20:57.46 | Kraps | thats what a meme IS |
| 20:57.47 | zenzelezz | now it's just a contest to see who can (in their own mind) find the most random thing |
| 20:58.04 | zenzelezz | Kraps: and I said already that only *some* memes are fine |
| 20:58.28 | zenzelezz | in my opinion obviously, but then that's the one that matters to me |
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| 20:59.37 | Blia | hi |
| 20:59.45 | Blia | is " tinsert(UISpecialFrames,this:GetName()); |
| 21:00.00 | Blia | enough to make a frame closable ? |
| 21:00.07 | Blia | with ESC key ? |
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| 21:00.50 | Kraps | BGS is getting an MMO |
| 21:00.52 | alestane | Isn't there some attribute you want to set to pass it in without poisoning the other frames' security, or something? |
| 21:00.54 | cogwheel | unless http://www.wowwiki.com/Make_Frames_Closable_With_the_%22Esc%22_Key is lying |
| 21:00.59 | batrick | Man there's some stupid fucking pricks on full-disclosure |
| 21:01.03 | batrick | how did this happen |
| 21:01.24 | Kraps | your difference of opinion is unsound |
| 21:01.24 | Blia | thanks cogwheel |
| 21:02.13 | zenzelezz | Kraps: browser-based, isn't it? |
| 21:02.16 | alestane | I might, however, change [[tinsert(UISpecialFrames,this:GetName());]] to [[tinsert(UISpecialFrames,self:GetName());]] |
| 21:04.39 | Kraps | zenzelezz: cant say, the only things out are a teaser trailer and http://battlestar-galactica.bigpoint.com/ |
| 21:07.47 | alestane | Okay, yes, UISpecialFrames is intended specifically for things that don't depend on security. So it will work for most applications. |
| 21:10.30 | alestane | But do change this to self, Blia, I know I've seen speculations as to whether _G.this will stop being set in 4.0. |
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| 21:23.04 | Fisker | slaps alestane around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:23.09 | Fisker | slapd |
| 21:23.39 | alestane | Whenever you say that I think you're trying to hack my LDAP settings. |
| 21:24.25 | Blia | cogwheel : i added the code in my script "onload" and this made the window not show on startup.. |
| 21:25.12 | cogwheel | Blia: all i did was google UISpecialFrames and came up with that link... |
| 21:25.17 | cogwheel | :P |
| 21:25.25 | Blia | hehe ok |
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| 21:30.16 | cogwheel | The human body has about three trillion cells, 10% of which are human. The rest are bacteria. |
| 21:31.20 | KarlKFI|work | your mom's 90% bacteria |
| 21:31.27 | Blia | lol |
| 21:31.40 | cogwheel | indeed :) |
| 21:34.12 | alestane | But they're prokaryotes, so they're way smaller. |
| 21:37.19 | Fisker | but cogwheel |
| 21:37.27 | Fisker | you're just being misled btw the man |
| 21:37.49 | Fisker | wtf |
| 21:37.53 | Fisker | btw = by* |
| 21:39.30 | cogwheel | alright who killed vimeo? |
| 21:40.28 | KarlKFI|work | the radio star? |
| 21:41.03 | Fisker | naw |
| 21:41.07 | Fisker | copyright |
| 21:48.56 | Ackis | Fisker: u suck |
| 21:50.32 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 21:50.33 | Fisker | you suck |
| 21:50.55 | malreth | internet killed the video star? |
| 21:56.13 | batrick | cogwheel: filthy liar! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_(biology) |
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| 22:02.20 | Spejnar | wtf, who killed the EU login, AGAIN |
| 22:02.32 | olafski | l2read the announcements |
| 22:02.33 | olafski | slacker |
| 22:02.49 | olafski | I don't even play and I'm more informed than you! |
| 22:03.19 | Spejnar | amagad |
| 22:03.26 | Spejnar | maintenence is for when Im sleeping! |
| 22:03.29 | Spejnar | akwdjkja |
| 22:03.42 | olafski | and now it's for when you're awake too |
| 22:03.45 | olafski | 24 hours of no wow for you! |
| 22:04.00 | Spejnar | thats not right |
| 22:04.02 | Spejnar | my server isnt in the list |
| 22:04.06 | Spejnar | so should be 05-11 |
| 22:04.12 | olafski | ~wowalert |
| 22:04.13 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 22:04.46 | olafski | oh hm :P |
| 22:05.03 | Spejnar | as I said, my realm is not on there and the login shouldnt be down now either way |
| 22:06.10 | Spejnar | and now it worked again, wtf |
| 22:07.15 | cogwheel | ümlaüts Fïskër |
| 22:08.23 | cogwheel | Fisker: you have been ümlaüted! what say you? |
| 22:09.56 | NightHawkTheSane | svn up |
| 22:10.00 | NightHawkTheSane | er, wrong window. |
| 22:10.44 | olafski | incoming hate about svn :-) |
| 22:11.06 | durcyn | fucking svn makes you focus the wrong terminal |
| 22:11.13 | olafski | there we go |
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| 22:14.50 | NightHawkTheSane | indeed :) |
| 22:15.43 | NightHawkTheSane | but to avoid durcyn's easily offended sensibilities, next time i make the mistake it'll be an hg pull command :P |
| 22:15.58 | durcyn | fucking hg something something |
| 22:16.02 | Kraps | didnt you see the threads? "THERE WAS NO ANNOUNCEMENT OF MAINTENANCE SO THERE SHOULDNT BE ANY AND BLIZZ'S CS SUCKS!!!!" |
| 22:16.22 | durcyn | thinks it's git with its fancy pull command |
| 22:16.32 | durcyn | pull is two letters longer than up, harder to type, harder to use, hg is bad |
| 22:16.34 | durcyn | the end |
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| 22:18.45 | NightHawkTheSane | that was a wonderful story. i was touched |
| 22:19.12 | durcyn | i'll update your timestamp, sonny boy |
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| 22:42.05 | Amarande | so what was the launcher download for today? |
| 22:42.38 | cogwheel | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25399822275&sid=1 |
| 22:43.30 | Amarande | a "small tools patch" |
| 22:43.33 | Amarande | but what does it DO? |
| 22:44.05 | cogwheel | they don't generally give notes on tool patches. |
| 22:45.42 | Amarande | lemme guess |
| 22:45.57 | Amarande | tool patches are where they put all the secret hack/cheat/security fixes that they want to be able to not have to talk about? |
| 22:46.24 | cogwheel | or changes to the launcher, blizzard downloader, etc. anything that doesn't change wow.exe or the data files |
| 22:49.12 | Amarande | wow, I didn't realize until now that mana gems aren't conjured items |
| 22:49.30 | Amarande | I thought they disappeared when you logged like other conjured magey type stuff does |
| 22:49.32 | Amarande | hell, healthstones do |
| 22:49.51 | cogwheel | lern2tense |
| 22:49.54 | cogwheel | :P |
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| 22:49.56 | cogwheel | they used to be |
| 22:50.11 | cogwheel | i think it was the last patch that changed it. |
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| 22:50.28 | Amarande | hmm, how long do I have to go back to gnomer |
| 22:50.33 | Amarande | ah, 33, good that gives me plenty of time |
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| 22:50.43 | Amarande | I need to get through Boston's guide without doing any more instances heh |
| 22:50.54 | Amarande | they're putting me so out of sync that I'm doing grey quests and killing grey mobs :P |
| 22:51.16 | Fisker | Amarande |
| 22:51.18 | Amarande | half of which I probably don't need to do, but since I haven't played alliance in forever I have no idea which of this stuff might be prereqs needed for later |
| 22:51.35 | Amarande | yes fisker? |
| 22:51.39 | Fisker | hello |
| 22:52.00 | cogwheel | ümlaüts Fïskër |
| 22:52.10 | Fisker | slaps cogwheel around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:52.26 | cogwheel | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large ÃmlaÃt |
| 22:53.19 | Cide | you missed the ä |
| 22:53.36 | Cide | Ạ|
| 22:53.49 | Amarande | heh, umlauts |
| 22:53.56 | Amarande | we usually just call them "those dots that go over the U in german words" |
| 22:53.59 | Fisker | slaps Cide around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:54.12 | Kalroth | Amarande: ü süx! |
| 22:54.18 | Cide | yeah but you're a conspiracy theorist also |
| 22:54.22 | Amarande | "those dots that hardly anyone actually uses in german words, particularly on chat, because nobody ever remembers the code to type it" |
| 22:54.26 | cogwheel | cîrcûmflêxês Fisker |
| 22:54.47 | Amarande | "and which annoy the hell out of people on WoW when you use them in your character name" |
| 22:54.52 | Amarande | dammit, I was hoping 3.3.5 was today |
| 22:54.58 | Amarande | I'm so looking forward to realid |
| 22:55.11 | Fisker | you know what i hate cogwheel ? |
| 22:55.14 | Amarande | especially since I know one of my best friends who I haven't talked to in a while plays on silvermoon alliance |
| 22:55.20 | Amarande | and I remember her email address but not her toon name :( |
| 22:55.25 | cogwheel | Fisker: cheeseburges with lemon ice cream on them? |
| 22:55.25 | Fisker | Advertisement for free internet on our trains |
| 22:55.33 | Fisker | and they market it for "updating facebook" |
| 22:55.48 | Amarande | Fisker: what else do 90% of net users use it for now |
| 22:55.49 | Fisker | Because updating facebook about what station you're at is new and exciting |
| 22:55.57 | Fisker | i hate it Amarande |
| 22:56.22 | Amarande | don't worry, soon every wow player's facebook will be spammed with their friends' wow achievements and rare/epic drops anyway |
| 22:56.40 | cogwheel | Fisker: ur groà |
| 22:56.54 | Spejnar | wow, friend, facebook, WHAT? |
| 22:57.33 | Amarande | Spejnar: yes, that's what the wow facebook integration stuff is all about |
| 22:57.45 | Amarande | it's supposed to be able to post facebook updates when you do significant stuff in wow |
| 22:57.52 | Amarande | like the activity feed on armory :P |
| 22:58.17 | Gnarfoz | bullshit |
| 22:58.50 | cogwheel | hmm.. wonder if there's a way to make dead keys use combining diacritics instead of accented code points... |
| 23:00.09 | Cide | why? :P |
| 23:00.13 | Spejnar | you actually mean wow players have friends!? blasphemy! |
| 23:00.30 | Gnarfoz | he's just wrong, nothing further to add |
| 23:00.34 | cogwheel | Cide: why who? |
| 23:00.41 | Cide | why you |
| 23:00.43 | Cide | of course |
| 23:00.43 | Cide | ! |
| 23:00.52 | Kraps | worldofmatticus is just a blog? |
| 23:00.55 | cogwheel | becuause "t should make the umlauted T |
| 23:01.07 | Gnarfoz | there is no such thing as a umlaut-t |
| 23:01.14 | Gnarfoz | just a, o, u, that's it. |
| 23:01.24 | cogwheel | Gnarfoz: wanna bet? |
| 23:01.27 | Gnarfoz | yes. |
| 23:01.36 | Gnarfoz | (being German, I'd probably know) |
| 23:01.42 | cogwheel | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umlaut_(diacritic) |
| 23:01.47 | Amarande | you know I'm starting to wonder if there are any horde players on this server |
| 23:01.50 | cogwheel | you say that as if german is the only language with umlaut... |
| 23:01.54 | Amarande | I've yet to meet a single one, and I'm already level 28 on alliance |
| 23:02.02 | Gnarfoz | you realize "Umlaut" is a german word? |
| 23:02.08 | cogwheel | yes |
| 23:02.10 | cogwheel | that's irrelevant |
| 23:02.13 | Amarande | I guess there have to BE some horde players since we don't always have wg, but I've never actually seen them heh |
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| 23:03.13 | cogwheel | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%CC%88 |
| 23:03.47 | Gnarfoz | cogwheel: should probably read what you link from Wikipedia |
| 23:03.52 | Cide | Gnarfoz, Ạ|
| 23:03.57 | Thunder_Child | ~weather klax |
| 23:04.13 | Thunder_Child | 66 my sweaty ass |
| 23:04.26 | Amarande | btw, do mana gems share a CD with mana pots? |
| 23:04.29 | Gnarfoz | cogwheel: the Umlaut article make it pretty clear that everything besides german Umlauts is diacritics/diaeresis and mostly doesn't even share the name "umlaut" |
| 23:04.33 | Thunder_Child | Amarande: no |
| 23:04.44 | Cide | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:04.49 | Cide | stop being a word nazi |
| 23:04.49 | cogwheel | Gnarfoz: second link |
| 23:04.58 | Gnarfoz | cogwheel: that's just inaccurate, read the first link. |
| 23:05.08 | Gnarfoz | Cide: I'm no nazi of any kind, shut the fuck up |
| 23:05.21 | Cide | ouch |
| 23:05.44 | Cide | rage moar? |
| 23:05.46 | cogwheel | /popcorn |
| 23:05.58 | Gnarfoz | Cide: don't go around calling people nazis? |
| 23:06.04 | Cide | don't be so sensitive |
| 23:06.14 | Gnarfoz | don't be so stupid |
| 23:06.23 | Cide | nobody is holding nazi germany's actions against present germany or present germans |
| 23:06.28 | Gnarfoz | haha |
| 23:06.41 | Amarande | yay strength reduced by 10 |
| 23:06.44 | Cide | now you can laugh? ok |
| 23:06.47 | Amarande | CAN YOU GIVE ME ANY MORE USELESS OF A DEBUFF YOU PATHETIC MOB. :) |
| 23:07.09 | cogwheel | i'm with Cide on this one... Xxxxxx nazi is a generic term in other, less stick-up-butt parts of the world |
| 23:07.19 | cogwheel | soup nazi |
| 23:07.21 | cogwheel | grammar nazi |
| 23:07.31 | cogwheel | feminazi |
| 23:07.50 | Cairenn | no soup for you! come back 1 year! |
| 23:08.55 | Gnarfoz | cogwheel: well, if the US didn't have their very own kind of stuff they get super pseudo-offended about that other parts of the world just laugh about, I'd consider that point. but they do, and so do many Germans *shrug* |
| 23:09.22 | Cide | I'm swedish |
| 23:09.27 | Cide | I don't get supoer-offended by anything |
| 23:09.30 | Cide | super |
| 23:09.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Gnarfoz: what is it we get offended about? |
| 23:09.42 | cogwheel | Gnarfoz: generalization is general |
| 23:10.17 | cogwheel | i'd say the same thing about USians being stuck up about other things... |
| 23:10.29 | Gnarfoz | cogwheel: and using Umlaut as a generalized description for any character w/ an added diaresis is also just generalization ;p |
| 23:10.47 | cogwheel | Gnarfoz: not in the context of unicode, since they're represented identically ;) |
| 23:11.06 | Gnarfoz | if they are, why are you trying to get them represented differently? |
| 23:11.10 | Kraps | NightHawkTheSane: sex |
| 23:11.11 | cogwheel | i'm not... |
| 23:11.15 | Kraps | boobies |
| 23:11.26 | Gnarfoz | NightHawkTheSane: sex? "obscenities", swearing |
| 23:11.30 | cogwheel | it's just the keyboard layout i'm using only puts it on certain characters |
| 23:11.41 | Gnarfoz | well... roll your own! |
| 23:11.43 | NightHawkTheSane | cogwheel: if we're splitting hairs, i'd suggest that in the context of unicode, umlaut would be a wholly incorrect description, then. as it's purely a semantic destinction of the diaresis for a specific usage |
| 23:11.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Gnarfoz: none of these offend me, and i'm quite american :) |
| 23:12.11 | Thunder_Child | someone will always get offended by something. 'tis silly to worry about it |
| 23:12.12 | cogwheel | Gnarfoz: hence 15:58 < cogwheel> hmm.. wonder if there's a way to make dead keys use combining diacritics instead of accented code points... |
| 23:12.17 | Gnarfoz | NightHawkTheSane: you're on IRC and know how to turn on a computer, those two alone make you a minority! :D |
| 23:12.22 | Amarande | cogwheel: your keyboard has dead keys? |
| 23:12.38 | cogwheel | Amarande: i got an international dvorak layout i'm playing with |
| 23:12.49 | cogwheel | because i find myself using accents a lot more than normal americans |
| 23:12.53 | Thunder_Child | vs. a local dvorak? |
| 23:12.58 | cogwheel | Thunder_Child: yes. |
| 23:13.09 | cogwheel | local being US |
| 23:13.09 | Thunder_Child | huh, didnt know there was more than one |
| 23:13.34 | cogwheel | international layout is basically just the US layout plus extra support for international characters |
| 23:13.44 | cogwheel | the "normal" dvorak is just a rearrangement of QWERTY |
| 23:13.48 | Gnarfoz | cogwheel: since your ctcp version reply is irssi, I'm guessing a link to MS's keyboard layout creator would do you no good? |
| 23:13.54 | Thunder_Child | oh, like the 'other' alt |
| 23:14.15 | Amarande | I am sorely tempted to level in healing gear on this mage. |
| 23:14.17 | cogwheel | Gnarfoz: the wonder was "if" not "how" ;) the layout i'm using was done in MSKLC |
| 23:14.42 | Thunder_Child | Amarande: the diff of low level healing gear to non is mp/5 |
| 23:14.45 | cogwheel | (i'm puTTYed into my linux server) |
| 23:14.47 | Gnarfoz | huh? it exports to something you can use on something else than Windows? |
| 23:14.49 | Gnarfoz | ah. |
| 23:14.54 | Thunder_Child | and you can make free water |
| 23:15.16 | Amarande | Yeah, but a lot of leveling areas really don't allow you much time to stop to drink it |
| 23:15.26 | Amarande | *cough* charred vale UGH |
| 23:15.49 | Thunder_Child | then dont quest there |
| 23:16.04 | Thunder_Child | you have options till you hit outland |
| 23:16.09 | Amarande | hellfire will probably make me want mp5, too |
| 23:16.24 | Amarande | *cough* Zeth'Gor |
| 23:16.36 | Amarande | my thought on Zeth'Gor is fairly simple |
| 23:16.45 | Amarande | that they designed it based around back when BC was freshly released |
| 23:16.50 | Amarande | and everyone would all be questing hellfire at once |
| 23:16.54 | cogwheel | Thunder_Child: and besides the difference between US Dvorak and US Dvorak International, yes. There are lots of different Dvoraks. Every language has different letter usage statistics, so the keys need to be arranged differently to fit with the dvorak methodology |
| 23:17.01 | Amarande | and then didn't sufficiently ratchet down the mob density once fewer people were questing there |
| 23:17.05 | Amarande | so you get OMG mob density |
| 23:17.25 | Thunder_Child | cogwheel: so what you are telling me is "stick with qwerty" got it :p |
| 23:17.30 | cogwheel | yep :) |
| 23:19.58 | Kraps | whoa patch |
| 23:21.10 | Thunder_Child | whoa nelly |
| 23:21.20 | cogwheel | not as woah as you think |
| 23:21.23 | Amarande | hmm, I think the tools patch may have also caused elekks to actually give a speed boost now. :) |
| 23:21.47 | NightHawkTheSane | ... |
| 23:22.00 | NightHawkTheSane | logic and reason died a little just now. |
| 23:22.46 | Amarande | Night: I'm joking. |
| 23:22.48 | Amarande | however |
| 23:22.59 | Amarande | quite often, I do get this weird feeling like my elekk isn't actually making me go any faster. |
| 23:23.05 | Amarande | apparently a fair number of draenei share this feeling. |
| 23:23.15 | NightHawkTheSane | it's you (and them) being dumb. |
| 23:23.37 | NightHawkTheSane | it would actually be MORE work, and MORE difficult to write code to do that. |
| 23:23.39 | Amarande | or maybe it's being used to 100% mounts on previous characters and then going to a 60% |
| 23:23.52 | Amarande | heh, actually, I could easily see a specific mount not giving a speed boost |
| 23:24.04 | NightHawkTheSane | so unless you're a raving nutjob prone to lunatic conspiracy theories and martyrdom, common sense would tell you two immediately write it off. |
| 23:24.07 | Amarande | all that would have had to happen was the mount accidentally not having that flag set :P |
| 23:24.14 | Gnarfoz | not to be falling into the "someone is wrong on the internet" pit, but: you're still wrong about diaeresis == umlaut. the "they're *represented* identically" sentence right at the beginning of the article just means that you can't discern one from the other, if it could actually be either. that does of course not automatically make every letter that can have a diaeresis applied an umlaut. the article differentiates the two pretty clearly, an |
| 23:24.20 | Gnarfoz | d properly, too. |
| 23:24.44 | Gnarfoz | (I read the whole thing just to make sure I'm not simply badly educated on the subject^^) |
| 23:25.26 | NightHawkTheSane | to* |
| 23:25.39 | Gnarfoz | the t-trema article simply stating "(or umlaut)" points quite clearly to someone not knowing the difference (they should probably read the article :D) |
| 23:29.55 | Kraps | guys, the launcher downloads something then becomes a small box with flashing text "Waiting for files to close...", but nothing seems to be happening |
| 23:30.26 | Gnarfoz | close the launcher? |
| 23:31.12 | Kraps | whi i hit cancel i get "The update could not be applied. The patching process cannot continue until all files are closed." |
| 23:31.41 | Gnarfoz | well, check your running tasks, I guess. |
| 23:39.02 | Amarande | ok, there are some places where I'm really glad I'm far ahead of the suggested levels on this questing guide |
| 23:39.09 | Amarande | ... like getting past Splintertree Post in one piece as Alliance |
| 23:39.59 | WobWork | welcome to 3.0 |
| 23:40.05 | Kraps | Gnarfoz: access is denied grrr |
| 23:40.23 | Amarande | Wob: did 3.0 do anyhting to 1-60? I thought that was 2.3 |
| 23:40.28 | Amarande | 3.0 was the 60-70 nerf |
| 23:40.57 | WobWork | they've nerfed it all the way I've found |
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| 23:41.58 | Kraps | what do i do if it wont let me kill tasks/processes? |
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| 23:42.06 | Lopeppeppy | Howitzer. |
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| 23:42.17 | Kraps | overkill :( |
| 23:42.18 | WobWork | reboot |
| 23:42.38 | Kraps | damn ninjas |
| 23:43.09 | Zyn | and an endless sea of butts |
| 23:43.43 | Lopeppeppy | I knew he'd use the howitzer! |
| 23:45.30 | Amarande | the Howitzer ... one of the finest achievements of Goblin Engineering. Virtually never malf*BOOM*Mommy! |
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| 23:49.43 | Kraps | "An American construction worker arrested in Pakistan on suspicion of trying to hunt down and kill terror mastermind Osama bin Laden is "not crazy," his brother told CNN Tuesday." |
| 23:49.53 | Kraps | ok then |
| 23:49.56 | Kraps | http://thesaurus.com/browse/crazy |
| 23:50.39 | Amarande | wait, they would ARREST someone for trying to do that? |
| 23:50.44 | Amarande | I thought the US had a reward out on that guy's head |
| 23:51.01 | Kraps | he was arrested in Pakistan |
| 23:51.16 | Amarande | I thought the Pakistanis didn't really care for him either |
| 23:51.33 | Amarande | of course, they're probably also dreadfully afraid of the retaliation if someone actually pulled it off :P |
| 23:51.59 | WobWork | er |
| 23:52.08 | WobWork | why is an american construction worker in pakistan? |
| 23:52.13 | WobWork | hunting for osama? |
| 23:52.26 | Amarande | wob: probably thought the US government would give him a reward if he pulled it off |
| 23:52.32 | WobWork | why -wouldn't- they arrest him? |
| 23:53.05 | Lopeppeppy | "I'm not bad, I'm just drawn that way." |
| 23:53.09 | WobWork | "Oh hey, YOU LOOK LIKE AN OSAMA!!! *STABSTABSTAB* oh woops" |
| 23:53.17 | Kraps | Amarande: or he is, y'know, crazy |
| 23:53.22 | WobWork | this ^ |
| 23:54.01 | WobWork | that's like saying "A Taliban explosives expert was seen in Washington 'scoping out the opposition'" |
| 23:54.06 | WobWork | why would you arrest him!? |
| 23:55.51 | Amarande | Wob: the difference is that Osama is pretty much universally hated and proscribed by every nation of the world |
| 23:56.29 | Amarande | but yeah, the guy's probably either crazy, or thinks there's money in it |
| 23:56.40 | Amarande | people do all sorts of crazy shit these days for money, after all |
| 23:57.47 | Kraps | Amarande: vigilantism is frowned upon, no matter how bad the target is |
| 23:58.15 | Fisker | slaps WobWork around a bit with a large trout |
| 23:58.20 | Lopeppeppy | I'd love to find someone normal who does clothing alterations for money! I live in eastern nowhere, this is frustrating. |
| 23:58.50 | Amarande | Peppy, you don't have a Burlington Coat Factory? I think they alter |
| 23:58.59 | Lopeppeppy | Nope. |
| 23:59.10 | Kraps | you're only a couple of hours from the greatest city in the world peppy |
| 23:59.13 | WobWork | Amarande: I'd still arrest him for crazy |
| 23:59.17 | Lopeppeppy | I've tried a couple of "full service" cleaners too. |
| 23:59.17 | Amarande | The stock Tailoring crafting clothing doesn't fit you, Peppy? :( |
| 23:59.45 | Lopeppeppy | Dude, I'm short! And skinny. I just went through my SCA garb box, oh boy do I need alterations. |
| 23:59.49 | WobWork | because if you think a construction worker in a completely different country is not going to go gun mad because he's hunting the most wanted man in the world... then you have more faith in the insane than most |
