| 00:00.11 | Dagmar | Yep |
| 00:00.19 | Dagmar | Hilariously over the top |
| 00:02.10 | Warloco | the im on a horse at the end also gives it that brilliant super random undertone |
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| 00:12.10 | alestane | Randomness adds memorbility. |
| 00:12.14 | alestane | sp* |
| 00:14.27 | NightHawkTheSane | rathr amusing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IURfntimnlA |
| 00:20.02 | Fisker | Dagmar |
| 00:22.13 | Fisker | alestane |
| 00:22.16 | Fisker | take a ride on my horse |
| 00:31.59 | alestane | http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=694 |
| 00:31.59 | alestane | "I hate to interrupt, but I ordered a *latte*." |
| 00:31.59 | alestane | "And you *got* a carrot-pickle-espresso monstrosity. Have a nice day." |
| 00:33.19 | Fisker | hey alestane |
| 00:33.26 | Fisker | i will kill you |
| 00:36.02 | Fisker | goodbye alestane |
| 00:47.24 | cogwheel | is on a horse |
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| 01:05.31 | Cloudwolf_ | Does any one know the name of the frame that shows battleground/arena info like wsg alliance flagcaps horde flag caps? |
| 01:08.12 | Cloudwolf | its quiet..... too quiet.... |
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| 01:12.06 | Cloudwolf | >.> |
| 01:15.00 | cogwheel | Cloudwolf: BOO! |
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| 01:15.29 | Cloudwolf | *uses luigi vacuum on cogwheel* |
| 01:15.50 | cogwheel | hehe |
| 01:17.40 | Cloudwolf | Ok so any way does any one know the frame name that displays the pvp stuff |
| 01:17.45 | Cloudwolf | alliance warsong caps horde warsong caps |
| 01:17.47 | Cloudwolf | etc |
| 01:18.06 | cogwheel | have you tried looking yourself? |
| 01:18.07 | cogwheel | :P |
| 01:18.16 | cogwheel | you know you can extract all of blizzard's code |
| 01:18.20 | eidolarr | DevTools probably knows |
| 01:18.21 | cogwheel | and there's also the /framestack command |
| 01:18.53 | eidolarr | oh man that's cool |
| 01:19.31 | cogwheel | DevTools was incorporated into the game hence /framestack and ... /eventtrace iirc |
| 01:20.17 | eidolarr | eventtrace appears pretty limited |
| 01:20.20 | eidolarr | i don't see a filtering mechanism |
| 01:22.27 | NightHawkTheSane | shakes his fist at people who know perl better than him, and are crushing him at perl golf. |
| 01:23.20 | Cloudwolf | cog doens't show on the framestakc |
| 01:23.36 | cogwheel | if the frame is visible and you mouse over it it should |
| 01:23.42 | Cloudwolf | doesn't |
| 01:23.45 | Cloudwolf | ive tried before |
| 01:24.02 | eidolarr | well let me grep around |
| 01:27.10 | eidolarr | could it be 'PVPBattlegroundFrame' ? |
| 01:28.16 | cogwheel | WorldStateFrame? |
| 01:28.27 | eidolarr | i'm wrong |
| 01:28.33 | cogwheel | doesn't understad what he and eidolarr could possibly be doing that you couldn't be doing too :P |
| 01:28.49 | eidolarr | it's a little interesting |
| 01:28.53 | eidolarr | i have not had such a hard time finding something |
| 01:30.57 | eidolarr | idk cog: |
| 01:30.58 | eidolarr | WorldStateFrame.lua:WorldStateScoreFrameTab1:Hide(); |
| 01:30.58 | eidolarr | WorldStateFrame.lua:WorldStateScoreFrameTab2:Hide(); |
| 01:30.58 | eidolarr | WorldStateFrame.lua:WorldStateScoreFrameTab3:Hide(); |
| 01:30.58 | eidolarr | WorldStateFrame.lua:WorldStateScoreFrameTeam:Hide(); |
| 01:31.07 | eidolarr | seems to suggest that's the score frame? |
| 01:31.23 | cogwheel | Cloudwolf: framestack works for me... |
| 01:31.35 | cogwheel | AlwaysUpFrame1, AlwaysUpFrame2 |
| 01:31.38 | eidolarr | what was it? |
| 01:31.40 | eidolarr | ahh |
| 01:32.02 | eidolarr | what a descriptive name |
| 01:33.06 | cogwheel | to desert, or not to desert... |
| 01:33.06 | Wobin | NightHawkTheSane, Perl Golf... isn't that like playing Putt Putt while blindfolded and drunk? |
| 01:33.44 | Wobin | cogwheel, if the dessert involves chocolate, always dessert |
| 01:35.40 | alestane | He appears to be considering going AWOL, rather than tasty pastries. |
| 01:36.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Wobin: kind of, but slightly more painful |
| 01:37.16 | cogwheel | i joined WSG to see for myself that framestack DOES work on those frames |
| 01:37.21 | cogwheel | now for a movie |
| 01:37.35 | eidolarr | why does strand of the ancients not end after round 1 if the defending team maxes the timer? |
| 01:37.38 | eidolarr | stupid |
| 01:43.05 | Cloudwolf | because blizzard likes to give both sides a chance at defending and attacking |
| 01:43.45 | Cloudwolf | but i agree |
| 01:45.19 | eidolarr | i think by now most people would rather keep their 10 minutes |
| 01:45.21 | Adys | Shirik |
| 01:46.44 | Adys | actually |
| 01:46.45 | Adys | anyone |
| 01:46.56 | Adys | What's the english word for n times a consecutive operation, eg 1x+2x+3x+4x+5x.. |
| 01:47.19 | eidolarr | uhh |
| 01:47.22 | eidolarr | summation? >.> |
| 01:47.36 | Adys | no |
| 01:48.10 | eidolarr | another example |
| 01:48.51 | Cide- | I don't get the 1x+2x+3x+4x+5x part |
| 01:49.16 | Cide- | you should clearly just write that as n(n+1)/2*x |
| 01:50.06 | Adys | thats why I'm asking how this operation is caled :P |
| 01:50.14 | Adys | s/l/ll/ |
| 01:50.30 | Cide- | you're doing a really bad job at explaining what you mean |
| 01:50.30 | eidolarr | can you give another example? |
| 01:50.38 | Adys | Cide |
| 01:51.42 | Adys | lambda n: sum(i*n for i in range(100)) |
| 01:52.08 | eidolarr | no word |
| 01:52.22 | Adys | well |
| 01:52.25 | Cide- | that's just lambda n: (100*101)/2*n |
| 01:52.26 | Adys | technically |
| 01:52.33 | Cide- | or 50*101*n |
| 01:52.42 | Cide- | technically that's wrong since range goes 0..99 |
| 01:52.50 | Adys | lambda n, max, op: sum(op(i, n) for i in range(max)) |
| 01:53.12 | eidolarr | what is range(max) |
| 01:53.16 | eidolarr | wouldn't it just be in max |
| 01:53.20 | Cide- | a list, 0..max-1 |
| 01:53.35 | eidolarr | that's what max is usually |
| 01:53.41 | Cide- | max is usually a number |
| 01:53.43 | eidolarr | as people traditionally define ordinals |
| 01:54.00 | Cide- | Adys, there is no word |
| 01:54.05 | eidolarr | yeah usually n is the set of ordinals less than n |
| 01:54.25 | Adys | =\\ |
| 01:57.43 | Adys | huh |
| 01:59.08 | Adys | >>> chop(100, 10, operator.mul) |
| 01:59.08 | Adys | 5500 |
| 01:59.19 | Adys | dubs it chop |
| 01:59.51 | eidolarr | what language is that? |
| 01:59.56 | Adys | python |
| 01:59.57 | eidolarr | in ml you could be all, foldr |
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| 02:14.59 | Amarande | gah, I'm already suffering from crazy taxi quest arrow withdrawal |
| 02:15.11 | Cide- | urbad |
| 02:15.38 | Jerub | Amarande: you play that too? |
| 02:15.55 | Amarande | lol, no |
| 02:16.02 | Amarande | but that's what that arrow's always called far as I know lol |
| 02:16.23 | Jerub | Amarande: oh, then, fail. |
| 02:16.34 | Jerub | crazytaxi is one of my favourite arcade games |
| 02:18.15 | Amarande | anyway, I had to ditch QH, and I'm already missing the arrow. |
| 02:18.47 | Jerub | you had to do what? |
| 02:19.06 | Amarande | I had to uninstall QH |
| 02:19.24 | Jerub | a fairy just lost its wings. :( |
| 02:19.41 | Amarande | It was glitching in all kinds of weird ways |
| 02:19.59 | Amarande | sometimes the quest log text would disappear entirely, like you'd click on the quests ok but the description pane would be blank until you did a /reloadui |
| 02:20.07 | Amarande | once that happened with the "recent achievements" pane as well |
| 02:20.18 | Amarande | and the other night it thought Stormwind was Bloodmyst and was trying to give arrows accordingly |
| 02:20.24 | Amarande | and at least once I couldn't click quests in the log at all |
| 02:24.35 | Arrowmaster | Amarande: its not 'crazy taxi quest arrow' its just 'crazy arrow' |
| 02:25.15 | Arrowmaster | and wtf at a fucking 360 game constantly crashing |
| 02:26.03 | Jerub | Arrowmaster: sounds like you need a new ring |
| 02:26.21 | Arrowmaster | console is fine, its a known issue in this game |
| 02:26.36 | Arrowmaster | but its just fucking happened to me twice in a fucking row |
| 02:26.55 | Amarande | cheap production? |
| 02:27.07 | Arrowmaster | yes, its a battlefield game |
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| 02:35.50 | Cide- | hey |
| 02:35.54 | Cide- | battlefield is a swedish franchise |
| 02:35.57 | Cide- | don't mock it |
| 02:36.07 | Kraps | i can believe The Girl Next Door got poor critical reviews |
| 02:36.15 | Kraps | that many |
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| 02:56.22 | Wobin | is impressed at the ability of white vinegar to clean kettles |
| 02:59.05 | NightHawkTheSane | vinegar is like magic |
| 03:03.51 | Wobin | omg Jack Johnson looks weird with long hair |
| 03:22.37 | Dagmar | Corydon76-dig: Because from long practice of managing to not permanently damage anything when engaging in a prank I feel that increases the chances no one will get sued or arrested |
| 03:22.45 | Dagmar | Heh |
| 03:22.49 | Dagmar | Ohai |
| 03:22.58 | Amarande | heh |
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| 03:23.20 | Amarande | pranks, the building blocks of chaos |
| 03:23.21 | Amarande | chaos ftw |
| 03:23.23 | Dagmar | Wheeee i r teh sutles tonite |
| 03:23.31 | Amarande | looks around for more Genuine and Authorized POPE cards |
| 03:24.05 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:24.33 | Amarande | http://www.principiadiscordia.com/downloads/pope_card.pdf |
| 03:24.42 | Dagmar | Semi-removable (like those "I park like an idiot" stickers) stickers to go over the ones already on the pumps saying "contains 10% ethanol" but with 'seawater' instead of 'ethanol' |
| 03:24.59 | Dagmar | Amarande: Oh I actually have one of the yellow copies from Loompanics, man |
| 03:25.41 | Amarande | "EXTRA VIRGIN FIRST PRESSED BODILY OIL OF BP EXECUTIVES"? |
| 03:26.17 | alestane | I don't want that. |
| 03:27.10 | Dagmar | Actually, now that there's not quite such a bunch of greyfaces in control of things it might be safe to go back to lunatic prankery |
| 03:27.38 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2010/06/craigslist_fail_trading_weed_f.php |
| 03:27.41 | mikma | dun dun duuuuuuun |
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| 03:28.05 | Dagmar | mikma: There are constantly idiots trying to use CL to do illegal stuff |
| 03:28.30 | Dagmar | mikma: Check the video gaming section and you'll constantly find some idiot or other attempting to sell their hard drive full of "backups" |
| 03:29.19 | mikma | oh man :D |
| 03:30.20 | Amarande | Dagmar: I wonder how much of that happens unintentionally, too, come to think of it |
| 03:30.29 | Shirik | so |
| 03:30.29 | Amarande | idiots who forget to erase their hard drive before mailing it to the buyer :P |
| 03:30.31 | Shirik | there's this addon |
| 03:30.33 | Shirik | it has like bars |
| 03:30.40 | Shirik | and little icons scroll to the left |
| 03:30.45 | Shirik | it indicates that a spell will be ready |
| 03:30.48 | Shirik | any idea what that is? |
| 03:30.52 | mikma | sexy cooldown? |
| 03:31.04 | Seerah | multiple bars == sexy cooldown |
| 03:31.19 | Seerah | just one means CoolLine or the ForteXorcist module (the original) |
| 03:31.21 | Shirik | Search error: |
| 03:31.21 | Shirik | Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms. |
| 03:31.24 | Seerah | (the original cooldown mod) |
| 03:31.29 | Shirik | ok you're like the third person to say fortexorcist |
| 03:31.33 | Shirik | I guess I need to check this |
| 03:31.40 | mikma | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/sexycooldown.aspx |
| 03:32.00 | Seerah | I use CoolLine myself, since I found that I didn't use enough of Forte to keep it (and I switched to icon class timers instead of bars) |
| 03:32.33 | Shirik | jesus curse's site takes forever to load |
| 03:32.47 | Seerah | that page loaded fast enough for me |
| 03:33.00 | mikma | man the harpoons |
| 03:34.18 | mikma | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info16332-CLCDK.html |
| 03:34.53 | Shirik | well I'm on a slower internet connection |
| 03:35.09 | Seerah | then should you be complaining? ;) |
| 03:35.51 | Shirik | other sites are fine |
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| 03:52.27 | Kraps | curse has always seemed top-heavy |
| 03:53.31 | Sargeras | hugs Cairennq |
| 03:53.36 | Sargeras | whoops |
| 03:53.39 | Sargeras | hugs Cairenn |
| 03:53.47 | Cairenn | snuggles Sargeras |
| 03:54.13 | Sargeras | hallos hun |
| 03:54.15 | Sargeras | how are you? |
| 03:54.20 | Cairenn | hanging in there |
| 03:54.22 | Cairenn | You? |
| 03:55.03 | Seerah | waves at Sargeras |
| 03:56.23 | Sargeras | waves at Seerah |
| 03:56.26 | Sargeras | hallo ssir |
| 03:56.28 | Sargeras | -s |
| 03:56.30 | Amarande | Heya Cairenn, Sarg |
| 03:56.31 | Sargeras | doing well Cairenn |
| 03:56.32 | Sargeras | you? |
| 03:56.36 | Amarande | Sargeras, you don't pass your marks out to nearly enough mobs :| |
| 03:56.56 | Amarande | Not like Kael'thas who gives his out like candy |
| 03:57.02 | Sargeras | ah |
| 03:57.19 | Sargeras | I've been very busy with my housekeeping magazines |
| 03:57.26 | Sargeras | the Twisting Nether is a mess right now |
| 03:57.52 | Sargeras | but I always find time to drop Cairenn a hug |
| 03:58.00 | Sargeras | because she's just awesome like that |
| 03:58.06 | Cairenn | luvs Sargeras |
| 03:58.47 | Sargeras | :D |
| 03:58.50 | Sargeras | oh |
| 03:58.53 | Sargeras | and Dolby is the MAN! |
| 03:59.04 | Cairenn | he's at E3 |
| 03:59.09 | Sargeras | yeah I know |
| 03:59.10 | Cairenn | so probably won't see that |
| 03:59.19 | Sargeras | he's suppose to call me when he has some free time |
| 03:59.23 | Sargeras | which he probably wont |
| 03:59.34 | Sargeras | because free time.... HA wut's that |
| 03:59.38 | Cairenn | yep |
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| 04:16.17 | Slackwise | Okaaaay |
| 04:16.19 | Slackwise | http://www.mangler.org/2010/06/mangler-on-android-first-alpha-release-is-available/ |
| 04:16.43 | Slackwise | Ventrilo on Android. Works on my G1 just fine. @_@ |
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| 04:37.10 | Amarande | ok, this is news to me, and kinda puzzling |
| 04:37.25 | Amarande | I'm trying to figure out exactly how speccing Frostbite on a FFB mage can *cause wipes* |
| 04:37.42 | Amarande | Frostbite gives ... "chill effects a 5/10/15% chance to freeze the target for 5 sec" |
| 04:37.46 | Amarande | okay, how does this cause wipes? |
| 04:37.57 | Amarande | apparently Freya hard mode is particularly likely to do it. |
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| 04:39.20 | ajmitch | because they are snared & attack the closest target? |
| 04:40.11 | Amarande | ajmitch: but we're talking that somehow frostbite procs cause TANKS to get one-shot |
| 04:41.13 | Amarande | now I don't know the Freya fight, so I'm not exactly sure what goes on there with freezing and one-shot tanks, though |
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| 05:19.31 | Kraps | so why are you complaining? |
| 05:20.36 | Kraps | http://www.ranker.com/list/top-10-people-who-give-video-games-a-bad-name/john-barryman# |
| 05:22.40 | Kraps | someone need to tell GC that logic is not allowed http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/25399741109/why-does-blizz-want-us-to-raid-less/ |
| 05:25.57 | Adys | Anyone knows of a colorgrep tool? |
| 05:26.01 | Adys | eg colorgrep img.png --hex=ff8811ff --out=coords |
| 05:26.38 | Arrowmaster | eh? |
| 05:26.42 | Antiarc | You might be able to do it with a "bitwise" AND of the file + file of target color? |
| 05:26.50 | Iriel | I think you might need to write that one yourself |
| 05:26.50 | Amarande | and I don't know why people are QQing about a 1-2 raid night schedule starting to become the norm |
| 05:27.06 | Amarande | some of us have JOBS, in which we have to WORK during several evenings which are usually peak raid hours |
| 05:27.07 | Iriel | Though it should be pretty easy if you use pngtopnm et al to make a pixmap |
| 05:27.27 | Amarande | 1-2 raid nights means much more likely that we can actually hope to find a guild whose raid nights match the ones which we are available :p |
| 05:27.58 | Amarande | in the olden days, you basically HAD to be a student or a nine to fiver to raid on some servers because otherwise you'd never be able to dovetail your schedule with the guilds' |
| 05:28.56 | Amarande | with guilds expecting you to be able to make at least four out of five or six raid nights a week ... |
| 05:37.35 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.jeffsocean.com/post/668583668/calvin-minus-hobbes |
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| 05:55.19 | Antiarc | http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/3415/comgu0.jpg |
| 05:57.38 | Kraps | Antiarc: holy shit |
| 05:57.59 | Kraps | i need to start that game again, got bored of it |
| 05:59.07 | taroven|Grr | ...they even got the palm tree's placement right. Props, crysis. |
| 05:59.22 | taroven|Grr | (top center lower shots) |
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| 05:59.56 | Wobin | hehe |
| 06:00.16 | Wobin | Orgrimmar has some great barbeques that now have -things other than pork- on the menu, but from Razor Hill to the Crossroads, having anything on your cooking table other than chunks of boar is considered a bit -elven-. |
| 06:00.27 | Kraps | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25399621264&sid=1 |
| 06:00.32 | Kraps | i hate people |
| 06:01.12 | taroven|Grr | successful troll is successful? |
| 06:01.47 | Wobin | NightHawkTheSane, nooooo |
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| 06:24.11 | Thunder_Child | i just saw a package of margarine in the fridge that says "real margarine" with the 'real' in italics.....because there are so many 'fake' margarine's floating around. |
| 06:25.09 | Torhal | Considering the fact that margarine is fake butter...that makes my head hurt. |
| 06:26.27 | Amarande | margarine ... transfat sticks! |
| 06:37.24 | Antiarc | http://oughto.com/post/695455865 |
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| 06:55.41 | Amarande | goddamnit |
| 06:55.45 | Amarande | I go to put out the trash and miss my queue |
| 07:00.07 | Torhal | Antiarc: WTF? Hah |
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| 07:20.56 | eidolarr | is the first parameter of CreateFrame case insensitive? |
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| 07:44.01 | jnwhiteh | eidolarr: yes, I believe so |
| 07:44.03 | jnwhiteh | most things are |
| 07:46.23 | jnwhiteh | frame scripts are, events probably are, template names are not |
| 07:47.51 | eidolarr | wow events are! i never thought of that |
| 07:47.54 | eidolarr | it is almost vulgar |
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| 07:51.04 | Wobin | Amarande, I just saw a toon named Amarand =P |
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| 08:18.26 | Fisker | slaps jnwhiteh around a bit with a large trout |
| 08:22.10 | ZorbaBeta | aww no path of the titans |
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| 08:24.59 | Fisker | wow ZorbaBeta |
| 08:25.10 | Fisker | You just gained one skillpoint in archaeology |
| 08:26.23 | Fisker | get it ZorbaBeta ? |
| 08:28.10 | ZorbaBeta | yeah, I just wasn't inspired to riff off it :P |
| 08:29.58 | Fisker | i am a huge jerk |
| 08:42.17 | Adys | ~wowilogs |
| 08:42.19 | purl | hmm... wowilogs is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23wowuidev/ |
| 08:44.46 | Fisker | Wobin |
| 08:44.52 | Fisker | i just saw a toon named Wobinsucks |
| 08:44.54 | Fisker | is that you? |
| 08:45.52 | Adys | there |
| 08:45.54 | Adys | http://dpaste.com/206994/ |
| 08:45.55 | Adys | I win |
| 08:46.02 | Adys | Fisker: ^ |
| 08:46.04 | Adys | cheers |
| 08:46.32 | Fisker | :( |
| 08:47.35 | olafski | antiarc: nice.. :) |
| 08:47.38 | Fisker | i should find that post i posted on the TBC beta forums |
| 08:47.52 | Fisker | where i wrote that paladins should have wisdom and might merged |
| 08:48.01 | Fisker | and it should then work for all of the group |
| 08:49.05 | olafski | and then you added that we should have guild talents and death knights and worgen and goblin as playable characters right? |
| 08:49.48 | Fisker | no |
| 08:49.52 | Fisker | but i'm dead serious |
| 08:50.07 | Fisker | i suggested the wisdom/might merge during the TBC beta |
| 08:50.16 | Fisker | or maybe it was wotlk |
| 08:51.03 | olafski | or maybe it was 2 weeks ago |
| 08:51.08 | Fisker | naw |
| 08:51.10 | Fisker | it was wotlk |
| 08:51.58 | Fisker | besides it doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure out that buffing 10 classes every 30 minutes is worse compared to buffing 1 raid every 1 hour |
| 08:57.58 | Spejnar | buffing 40 ppl every 5min ftw, lets go back to that! |
| 09:02.45 | Antiarc | Paladins in the MC days were the epitome of "utility class" |
| 09:02.58 | Antiarc | You there, stand out of combat and rez the bads who die, and buff people every 5 minutes. |
| 09:05.34 | Wobin | Fisker, nah, I only have a Wobin toon on Draka for posting purposes in the coder guild |
| 09:06.16 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 09:06.27 | Wobin | They need to fix Prayer of Shadow Prot |
| 09:06.28 | Fisker | i thought you could only stay passenger in a mount as long as you were in the group |
| 09:06.33 | Wobin | to be 30min like everything else |
| 09:07.05 | Fisker | Antiarc wouldn't buffing put them back in combat? Or was their anti-out-of-combat-features really that bad back then? |
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| 09:09.15 | Antiarc | Well, the OOC rezzers just rezzed people |
| 09:11.09 | Fisker | yeah but you said ress and buff :P |
| 09:11.41 | Arrowmaster | i find this hilarious http://mjg59.livejournal.com/124127.html |
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| 09:12.19 | Fisker | screenshot or i don't care Arrowmaster |
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| 09:19.03 | Torhal | sells Fisker into slavery. |
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| 09:32.32 | xanax` | hello |
| 09:32.32 | Spejnar | Any small addon that checks food and flasks for a raid? |
| 09:33.23 | xanax` | no idea |
| 09:33.33 | xanax` | search on wowinterface |
| 09:33.52 | Spejnar | alright |
| 09:33.53 | xanax` | maybe there are some. |
| 09:34.32 | Spejnar | ye |
| 09:34.38 | Spejnar | "I'd Check That!" |
| 09:34.40 | Spejnar | awesome |
| 09:34.43 | Spejnar | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info15541-IdCheckThat.html |
| 09:34.47 | xanax` | is there a way to wrap text at the end of the line ? making the text not be displayed outside the UI... |
| 09:35.30 | airtonix | no |
| 09:35.50 | airtonix | ~g newlines lua |
| 09:35.53 | xanax` | oh |
| 09:36.17 | airtonix | sorry i left out my sarcasm markup |
| 09:36.43 | xanax` | i am a bit surprised it's not possible. |
| 09:36.54 | airtonix | im surprised you believed me |
| 09:37.01 | xanax` | ... |
| 09:37.32 | Spejnar | im just surprised |
| 09:37.50 | airtonix | http://lua-users.org/wiki/StringsTutorial |
| 09:38.37 | xanax` | thanks |
| 09:39.13 | jnwhiteh | what are you trying to do? |
| 09:39.22 | jnwhiteh | i didn't understand your question, but that page isn't likely to help you |
| 09:39.32 | jnwhiteh | You want to push something to the second line in a FontString in a UI element? |
| 09:39.36 | jnwhiteh | there are API calls for that... |
| 09:39.37 | xanax` | yes |
| 09:39.42 | jnwhiteh | !api wrap |
| 09:39.42 | lua_bot | Found 17 possible matches for 'wrap'. Please be more specific |
| 09:39.45 | xanax` | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_FontString_SetNonSpaceWrap |
| 09:39.46 | jnwhiteh | !api linewrap |
| 09:39.46 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'linewrap'. |
| 09:39.57 | xanax` | i found that, and testing it |
| 09:40.24 | jnwhiteh | there's SetWordWrap and SetNonSpaceWrap |
| 09:40.29 | jnwhiteh | they're both useful :P |
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| 09:47.52 | Antiarc | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25399931400&sid=1 |
| 09:47.59 | Antiarc | This is the best thread on the UI forums today. |
| 09:48.07 | jnwhiteh | people read the UI forums? |
| 09:48.11 | Antiarc | "Here's a really simple addon idea, give me donations to make it happen" |
| 09:48.15 | Antiarc | I do when there's nothing new on reddit. |
| 09:48.35 | jnwhiteh | So, in order to make this addon happen I'm going to need some help. |
| 09:48.35 | jnwhiteh | Both beta testers and contributions will help make this addon happen. |
| 09:48.36 | jnwhiteh | In return for my time, I'm going to need some donations. |
| 09:48.37 | jnwhiteh | Any amount is appreciated and you can easily contribute by clicking the Donate button on the addon page. |
| 09:48.39 | jnwhiteh | hahahaha |
| 09:48.50 | jnwhiteh | If enough people request this addon, a page will be made on CurseForge. There, you can download betas, leave comments and suggestions, and a Paypal donation button is available for contributions. |
| 09:48.52 | jnwhiteh | amazing. |
| 09:49.24 | jnwhiteh | Antiarc: the new flexAuth is freaking sexy |
| 09:49.28 | Antiarc | jnwhiteh: :D |
| 09:49.31 | Antiarc | Did you add a widget? |
| 09:49.42 | jnwhiteh | i did |
| 09:49.45 | jnwhiteh | i dont use it normally |
| 09:49.49 | jnwhiteh | but i saw it and its awesome. |
| 09:49.53 | jnwhiteh | if i used my auth more often, I would |
| 09:49.56 | jnwhiteh | \and I may still =) |
| 09:50.10 | Antiarc | I'm really starting to dig on Android development |
| 09:50.21 | jnwhiteh | Anyone have any changes they'd liek me to make on the Golang http package during the hackathon next week:? |
| 09:50.22 | Antiarc | I need to get over my dislike for Java, but the Android system itself is superbly designed. |
| 09:50.32 | Antiarc | Also |
| 09:50.43 | Antiarc | There's a working (alpha) Mumble client for Android |
| 09:50.48 | Antiarc | Which is pretty damn badass |
| 09:50.51 | jnwhiteh | oh cool |
| 09:50.56 | Antiarc | The fact that I can voice chat with my guild anywhere is A+ |
| 09:51.04 | jnwhiteh | do people use mumble? |
| 09:51.11 | jnwhiteh | im' so out of the collaborative WoW playing =/ |
| 09:51.20 | Antiarc | I've been doing my best to convert people. |
| 09:51.35 | Antiarc | I've converted all the top guilds on my server, more or less, and I've converted a number of top guilds worldwide, as well |
| 09:51.56 | Spejnar | jnwhiteh: we are actually using skype for 10man raiding, tried mumble but it killed my computer for some reason.. |
| 09:51.57 | Antiarc | I set up mmo-mumble.com and offer hosting services off of it. Blood Legion rents a server, and used it for the world first LK-10 kill :) |
| 09:52.07 | Antiarc | Skype is so CPU-hungry, it's scary :( |
| 09:52.16 | jnwhiteh | and bandwidth/latency |
| 09:52.18 | Spejnar | true but atleast my comp isnt braindead when using it ^^ |
| 09:52.26 | jnwhiteh | when Tom gets on skype, our home network gets fuckd. |
| 09:52.30 | xanax` | I only have to add FontString:SetWordWrap(enable); in a script <onshow> for example ? |
| 09:52.36 | Antiarc | My guild alliance uses Mumble - we're about 200 strong. |
| 09:52.37 | Spejnar | meh, I have enough bandwidth to go around |
| 09:52.49 | xanax` | ... to make the frame wraping words? |
| 09:52.54 | Antiarc | We run 3 25-man raid groups and 5-6 10-man groups weekly on it |
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| 09:53.35 | Spejnar | Antiarc: TOTALLY doable on a single skype... |
| 09:53.46 | Antiarc | obviously :) |
| 09:53.55 | Spejnar | ^^ |
| 09:54.47 | Antiarc | If nothing else, Mumble's system volume attenuation features have spoiled me |
| 09:54.58 | Antiarc | I love love love that I can listen to music full volume while raiding and have it all Just Workk |
| 09:55.18 | Spejnar | I dont know why but mumble fucked up my computer bad, the faster I moved the mouse the more cpu worked up to 100% without problems |
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| 09:55.36 | Antiarc | There was a build that had a really nasty CPU usage bug in it a while back |
| 09:55.54 | Antiarc | One of the 1.2.1 RCs, I want to say? |
| 09:56.44 | Spejnar | well it wasnt that long ago, maybe 1-2 months |
| 09:56.50 | Antiarc | Mumble moves fast :) |
| 09:56.57 | ZorbaBeta | yay I'm done with a terrible game |
| 09:57.19 | Antiarc | http://mumble.info/snapshot/ has all the releases + dev builds |
| 09:57.39 | jnwhiteh | *FACESTAB* |
| 09:57.40 | jnwhiteh | nope no lua errors or anything. when the addon is enabled, doing /hey and /heythere, hitting enter or return will not close the chatbox, not accepting the slash command. Thats all there is. I guess It's just because i'm using windows. MAKE A BOOK FOR THE 90% OF US WHO USE PC!!! |
| 09:57.46 | jnwhiteh | I hate you |
| 09:57.51 | robokitty | Mumble is <3 |
| 09:57.56 | Antiarc | jnwhiteh: Hahahaha. |
| 09:58.04 | jnwhiteh | I asked him four questions |
| 09:58.07 | robokitty | and the built-in overlay is nizzle when new in a guild xD |
| 09:58.07 | jnwhiteh | and asked him to post the code |
| 09:58.10 | jnwhiteh | and that's how he responded. |
| 09:58.27 | Antiarc | robokitty: Yeah, it's amazing for pugs |
| 09:58.33 | jnwhiteh | at least I got the secure template guy to finally understand shit. |
| 09:59.27 | xanax` | :-) Here is the error I get : http://nopaste.info/5e76236a46.html |
| 10:00.54 | xanax` | for this code : http://nopaste.info/09f98cc7ef.html |
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| 10:01.45 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
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| 10:01.48 | jnwhiteh | because you're indexing FontString |
| 10:01.52 | jnwhiteh | which is an unset global variable. |
| 10:02.02 | jnwhiteh | why are you doing this? |
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| 10:02.26 | xanax` | i just want to add a long text to a frame |
| 10:02.32 | jnwhiteh | add parentKey="text" to the definition of your FontString, and then in the OnLoad, do self.text:SetWordWrap(true) |
| 10:02.41 | jnwhiteh | You've done so much wrong there, it's hard to know where to start |
| 10:02.49 | xanax` | :-( |
| 10:02.53 | jnwhiteh | 1. 'enable' is an unset global variable, 'FontString' is an unset global variable. |
| 10:03.11 | jnwhiteh | but make the changes I suggested and it should do what you were trying to do. |
| 10:03.22 | xanax` | ok |
| 10:03.59 | xanax` | where should I add the definition of fontstring ? (i am new to addon development) |
| 10:04.36 | jnwhiteh | Just edit what you already have there. |
| 10:04.46 | jnwhiteh | add parentKey="text" to the FontString definition you already have |
| 10:04.59 | jnwhiteh | and change the OnLoad to be self.text:SetWordWrap(true) instead of FontString:SetWordWrap(enable) |
| 10:06.54 | Antiarc | :o |
| 10:06.58 | Antiarc | Inductive charger for the EVO |
| 10:06.58 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLGdx3UhreE |
| 10:07.04 | jnwhiteh | nice |
| 10:07.14 | Antiarc | http://i.imgur.com/heJaL.png |
| 10:07.51 | zenzio | Antiarc: that genuine? o_O |
| 10:07.57 | zenzio | cause it would be brilliant |
| 10:08.02 | Antiarc | zenzio: The mod? Yeah, sec |
| 10:08.09 | xanax` | hmm.. no success.. I have to go back to learn basics of addons development. |
| 10:08.12 | Antiarc | http://www.goodandevo.net/2010/06/htc-evo-4g-modded-to-work-with-palm-touchstone.html |
| 10:08.16 | Antiarc | http://www.goodandevo.net/2010/06/qa-with-the-htc-evo-touchstone-modder.html |
| 10:08.22 | jnwhiteh | xanax`: what is or isn't happening? |
| 10:08.27 | jnwhiteh | and there's a book for that =) |
| 10:08.48 | zenzio | Antiarc: funky! |
| 10:09.17 | xanax` | i must recheck the code.. I don't understand what's happening.. |
| 10:09.34 | Fisker | inductive chargers suck Antiarc |
| 10:09.50 | zenzio | sometimes I would love a statistic showing how much of net surfing slowness is because of "Connecting to/Waiting for (yet another ad network)" |
| 10:10.43 | airtonix | /etc/hosts? |
| 10:10.57 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 10:10.58 | jnwhiteh | http://twitpic.com/1wp7qu |
| 10:11.00 | zenzio | of course, but you get the point |
| 10:11.22 | robokitty | I lol'd |
| 10:12.03 | airtonix | usa plays football? |
| 10:12.11 | jnwhiteh | no, they play soccer |
| 10:12.13 | jnwhiteh | hey-yo! |
| 10:12.20 | airtonix | football |
| 10:12.21 | zenzio | :-p |
| 10:12.23 | airtonix | not handball |
| 10:13.09 | robokitty | handegg* |
| 10:13.41 | airtonix | crash-test-dummies ? |
| 10:14.25 | robokitty | Mmmh-Mmmh-Mmmh-Mmmh-Mmmh-Mmmh |
| 10:14.33 | robokitty | or however it is that oldies song of theirs goes |
| 10:17.47 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
| 10:18.54 | airtonix | meh they're both "sports" where "people" chase balls across a field |
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| 10:21.02 | Antiarc | http://www.subcide.com/experiments/fail-whale/ |
| 10:21.06 | Antiarc | That's pretty hifty, actually. |
| 10:21.15 | jnwhiteh | yeah, impressive. |
| 10:23.15 | xanax` | http://nopaste.info/0bc6223f9b.html I am trying to make the text wrap to the next line but for some reason, the text still goes out of the frame |
| 10:23.44 | jnwhiteh | The font string doesn't have a size. |
| 10:23.46 | jnwhiteh | give it one. |
| 10:23.52 | xanax` | ok |
| 10:24.07 | jnwhiteh | <Size x="100" y="16"/> |
| 10:25.47 | Fisker | robokitty msn |
| 10:27.21 | zenzio | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/06/14/funny-pictures-video-kitteh-wants-cuddles/ |
| 10:29.27 | xanax` | thank you jnwhiteh for your help |
| 10:29.33 | xanax` | it works now. |
| 10:29.47 | airtonix | you're welcome |
| 10:30.00 | airtonix | you can send donations to my pay pal account |
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| 10:38.03 | zenzio | you know what I want to see in Cataclysm? Worgen Engineering |
| 10:38.16 | airtonix | new lines ? |
| 10:39.34 | theorbtwo | Worgen Engineering -- find engineer. Kill him, and take his stuff. When the stuff wears out, kill somebody else. |
| 10:42.01 | airtonix | thats russian engineering |
| 10:42.33 | zenzio | so the other day I suddenly noticed that I had turned the shadow setting in WoW to minimum (probably in a reinstall or something). Cranked it back to full, and was reminded how much realistic shadows help for immersion |
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| 10:48.59 | zenzio | I see "a lot" of people crying over the new MMOC forums, but I can't see why. Yes, they don't look identical to the old ones, but I'd say close enough... and (while this is a personal opinion), they look cleaner now |
| 10:49.38 | airtonix | http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/129187377411042600.jpg |
| 10:54.11 | Jerub | bored |
| 10:55.14 | Jerub | airtonix: i raise you the best laptop ever: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OF48oqnqZdw&feature=player_embedded |
| 10:57.04 | mikma | haste: http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/the_routine_comic.jpg |
| 10:57.05 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 10:57.59 | mikma | cairenn|afk: http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/tiger_puppy.jpg |
| 10:58.46 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/gates_of_hell_wc.jpg <- awesome! |
| 11:01.16 | xanax` | lol |
| 11:02.45 | Fisker | i'm angry mikma |
| 11:04.56 | mikma | i don't care fisker |
| 11:06.37 | zenzio | "Even phpBB is better than vbulletin" o_O |
| 11:06.56 | mikma | fisker: http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/45morningpisstrajectory1240051332763.jpg |
| 11:07.25 | Fisker | you do |
| 11:07.50 | mikma | if you have firefox, try writing 'about:robots' in the url-field |
| 11:08.44 | Arrowmaster | old |
| 11:10.05 | theorbtwo | chrome-- # Only interesting about: URL is about:internets, which is decidedly non-portable. |
| 11:10.39 | airtonix | blank |
| 11:11.09 | Fisker | your mom is blank |
| 11:11.30 | airtonix | what is a "mom" ? |
| 11:11.45 | theorbtwo | airtonix: It'll only work if you have a copy of the "Pipes" screen-saver... and he's in C:\Windows\System32 |
| 11:11.57 | zenzio | airtonix: Might of Menethil, nub |
| 11:12.36 | theorbtwo | s/he's/it's/ # odd, not the sort of error I usually make. |
| 11:12.41 | airtonix | Nautilus cannot handle "c" locations. |
| 11:12.43 | zenzio | surely you remember how much fun the kids had in Naxx40 with the "my CUM will own your MoM" |
| 11:17.27 | zenzio | I see you're all trying to remember what the CUM was back then |
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| 11:26.50 | xanax` | i don't really understand why i can't add a button in a <frame>. It seems i can only do it in <frames> |
| 11:28.55 | foxlit | You can add a <frames> in a <frame>, though |
| 11:29.17 | xanax` | ok i'll try |
| 11:29.22 | Fisker | hey foxlit |
| 11:29.33 | xanax` | cause in my addon, i have 3 tabs, each one of them is a frame |
| 11:29.43 | xanax` | and now i want to add buttons in tab2 |
| 11:30.00 | foxlit | Hey Fisker. |
| 11:32.36 | jnwhiteh | <frame><frames><button></button><button></button></frames></frame> |
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| 11:32.57 | xanax` | yes, i'll test it in a minute :-) |
| 11:33.38 | Fisker | hey foxlit |
| 11:33.42 | Fisker | not so hey jnwhiteh though |
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| 11:44.30 | Fisker | i lol'd Xinhuan |
| 11:46.22 | Antiarc | <frames> denotes the children of another object |
| 11:46.39 | Fisker | hey Antiarc |
| 11:46.51 | Fisker | your flexauth ruined my nexus one |
| 11:46.58 | Antiarc | wat |
| 11:47.38 | Fisker | well almost anyway |
| 11:47.42 | Fisker | It showed up twice |
| 11:47.45 | Fisker | after the update |
| 11:47.51 | Fisker | then i installed it and now it doesn't show on market |
| 11:47.51 | Antiarc | eh? |
| 11:47.54 | Fisker | but i still have it installed |
| 11:47.55 | Fisker | :o |
| 11:47.57 | Antiarc | It shows on the market for me |
| 11:48.32 | jnwhiteh | Fisker'd. |
| 11:48.33 | Antiarc | I love how the Android market gives me stack traces |
| 11:48.39 | Fisker | nice |
| 11:48.39 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 11:48.45 | jnwhiteh | when your app FCs? |
| 11:48.45 | Fisker | anyway it does show on search |
| 11:48.48 | Antiarc | I don't like how it limits the description length, or how I don't have a good support system |
| 11:48.51 | Antiarc | Yeah, jnwhiteh |
| 11:48.52 | Fisker | but it doesn't show under downloads |
| 11:48.56 | Antiarc | Odd. |
| 11:49.01 | Antiarc | I have it installed via the USB debugger |
| 11:49.03 | Antiarc | So it shows for me |
| 11:50.04 | Antiarc | check out "Gauge Battery Widget" |
| 11:50.06 | Antiarc | It's quite excellent |
| 11:51.05 | Fisker | i wish they would launch that android market site |
| 11:51.19 | jnwhiteh | http://www.appbrain.com/app/net.hubalek.android.gaugebattwidget you mean? |
| 11:51.27 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: why not just use appbrain? |
| 11:51.46 | Fisker | why would i? |
| 11:52.12 | jnwhiteh | well, what do you mean by 'that android market site' |
| 11:53.14 | Fisker | The one they're going to launch later |
| 11:53.18 | Fisker | The itunes like one |
| 11:53.22 | Fisker | where you can buy music and shit |
| 11:53.42 | Antiarc | I'd like the Android market to work a little more like Wowace/WowI, personally |
| 11:53.52 | Antiarc | Ticket tracker, comments I can respond to, etc. |
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| 11:54.28 | jnwhiteh | yeah, would be a nice change for developers |
| 11:54.39 | Antiarc | Wowace is such a solid platform, it's really spoiled me. |
| 11:54.55 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
| 11:54.58 | jnwhiteh | i hate the tie in to curse tho =/ |
| 11:55.03 | Antiarc | The Android market feels kinda like "Okay, gonna just stick this out here and hope that people receive it well" |
| 11:55.10 | jnwhiteh | seeing how nice curseforge is makes me cry to see curse |
| 11:55.28 | Antiarc | Well, a lot of that is that Wowace/Curseforge is Kaelten's work, and the rest of it isn't :P |
| 11:55.44 | jnwhiteh | ok yeah, i know. |
| 11:55.52 | Arrowmaster | just remember, the curse site's codebase was written before the current employees worked there |
| 11:56.00 | jnwhiteh | I know that |
| 11:56.06 | jnwhiteh | wowace/curseforge == <3 |
| 11:56.07 | Antiarc | Legacy code is the bane of everything. |
| 11:56.11 | jnwhiteh | curse.com == no. just no. |
| 11:56.46 | Arrowmaster | the curse.com needs another redesign or atleast recoding |
| 11:56.51 | Antiarc | Hahahah, wow |
| 11:56.51 | Antiarc | http://www.surfpoeten.de/tube/vuvuzela_filter |
| 11:57.03 | Antiarc | The germans built an audio filter to remove vuvuzelas |
| 11:57.25 | Fisker | vuvuzelas? |
| 11:57.56 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X031mwwuLg |
| 12:00.08 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-rKemC0QI0 |
| 12:00.44 | Fisker | lols |
| 12:01.27 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMgDdi2Ggnw&feature=related |
| 12:01.42 | Antiarc | I don't know how anyone can tolerate that |
| 12:02.54 | Fisker | i'd use it |
| 12:02.59 | Zyn | "det betyder ikke så meget, hvem der har bolden mest" |
| 12:03.04 | Zyn | butthurt commentator much? |
| 12:03.17 | krka | dansk kommentator är dansk! |
| 12:04.36 | Fisker | BUT IT DOESN'T ZYN |
| 12:04.39 | Fisker | *sobs* |
| 12:05.32 | Zyn | "World Cup organisers say they will not ban vuvuzelas from stadiums in South Africa despite numerous complaints." |
| 12:05.34 | Zyn | wankers! |
| 12:05.59 | Zyn | http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8737455.stm |
| 12:06.42 | Antiarc | "Let us not make this a South Africa instrument alone," he said. "A vuvuzela is now an international instrument. People buy them and stuff them in their suitcase to go home. |
| 12:06.47 | Antiarc | auuuuuugh |
| 12:07.19 | krka | but vuvuzelas are "absolutely essential for an authentic South African footballing experience" |
| 12:07.29 | Antiarc | "A recent survey found that the sound emitted by a vuvuzela was the equivalent to 127 decibel" |
| 12:07.32 | Antiarc | Dear lord. |
| 12:07.51 | krka | they should start tooting their own lower horns instead |
| 12:07.52 | krka | woooooo |
| 12:08.10 | Antiarc | http://www.gcaudio.com/resources/howtos/loudness.html |
| 12:08.13 | Antiarc | Pain begins 125dB |
| 12:08.15 | olafski | doesn't cable support sending two audio signals for one channel? |
| 12:08.17 | Antiarc | Sandblasting, Loud Rock Concert 115dB |
| 12:08.38 | foxlit | "Loudest sound possible" << I wonder |
| 12:08.39 | olafski | I seem to recall we could sometimes choose to watch movies dubbed or in their original language |
| 12:08.45 | Arrowmaster | olafski: its more than just two |
| 12:08.48 | krka | mach 1 foxlit? |
| 12:08.59 | krka | no wait, that's something else |
| 12:08.59 | olafski | well more than one anyway |
| 12:09.08 | olafski | they should just give us a signal with and without vuvuzelas |
| 12:09.16 | Antiarc | Sound Levels of Music: Amplifier rock, 4-6' - 120dB |
| 12:09.17 | olafski | let the consumer decide ;) |
| 12:09.17 | krka | but i guess volume and speed are related for sound |
| 12:09.26 | Antiarc | So the vuvuzela is louder than a 4-6' amp? |
| 12:09.29 | Antiarc | Goooood lord. |
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| 12:09.49 | krka | OSHA Daily Permissible Noise Level Exposure |
| 12:10.02 | Antiarc | " the vuvuzela can produce 130 decibels on one blow; 10 decibels above the human pain threshold." |
| 12:10.03 | krka | interesting |
| 12:10.12 | foxlit | Antiarc: keep in mind that the chart says nothing about distances to objects. |
| 12:10.21 | Fisker | Â |
| 12:10.30 | Antiarc | I'd imagine "being in a stadium full of them" qualifies |
| 12:10.33 | foxlit | Or, er, some of them. |
| 12:11.33 | olafski | remember that the euphoria of watching your country's team play might raise your pain threshold :) |
| 12:12.01 | mikma | if not, you end up being deaf |
| 12:12.04 | Fisker | foxlit olafski |
| 12:12.21 | Antiarc | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benford%27s_law is really interesting. |
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| 12:14.52 | Fisker | plants a bomb behind Antiarc |
| 12:15.25 | krka | it is anything like brannigans law - hard and fast? |
| 12:15.49 | mikma | cocktail |
| 12:16.15 | foxlit | What's interesting is that that page consistently crashes Safari. |
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| 12:17.02 | Jerub | foxlit: have you updated safari? |
| 12:17.20 | Lopeppeppy | Woo hoo. My long-time stalker found me on LinkedIn. I am so enthused, not. |
| 12:17.21 | foxlit | And now it doesn't. But it did, like, thrice. |
| 12:17.47 | foxlit | And again. It's one of those images. |
| 12:17.52 | Fisker | hey Lopeppeppy |
| 12:18.08 | Fisker | real stalkers don't make their pressence known |
| 12:18.09 | Jerub | Lopeppeppy: yuck. |
| 12:18.33 | foxlit | Jerub: yes. |
| 12:18.37 | Lopeppeppy | No, he's probably been "watching" for a few months, Fisker. |
| 12:19.09 | Lopeppeppy | Jerub, I just block him when he finds me, very little harm done. It's annoying that he's been following me around for... 10 years now. Eeew. |
| 12:19.24 | Lopeppeppy | He used to pull fire alarms in college to get me out of my dorm so he could talk to me. |
| 12:20.04 | olafski | cute |
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| 12:21.43 | Arrowmaster | Lopeppeppy: has he not done anything restraining order worthy? |
| 12:21.58 | Antiarc | ....10 years? |
| 12:22.01 | Antiarc | Holy bajolies. |
| 12:22.05 | krka | stalking is caring! |
| 12:22.16 | Antiarc | That's begging for a restraining order if I ever saw it |
| 12:24.20 | Jerub | bikies with lead pipes. |
| 12:24.49 | foxlit | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk%3ABenford's_law#Bizarre_crashing_problems |
| 12:24.57 | foxlit | Teehee, there are even comments about it. |
| 12:27.14 | Lopeppeppy | Arrowmaster, nope. The crap back in college was close, but hard to prove it was targeted toward me. And laws/judges were different 15+ years ago. |
| 12:27.34 | zenzio | for sake of clarity, this stalker is not me |
| 12:27.42 | Lopeppeppy | Today all he does is google me at random intervals and find ways to contact me through what he finds. Which is why I try to stay off the radar. :) |
| 12:28.01 | Lopeppeppy | zenzio did not go to my college, nor ever live in the same country as I, to my knowlege, so he is not my stalker. |
| 12:28.52 | olafski | if you have to stay off the radar because you're worried a specific person will find you I imagine that could be worth at least mentioning to a lawyer and seeing if he can make something of it |
| 12:30.06 | Lopeppeppy | Nothing until the guy does something. Just looking up old classmates isn't illegal. |
| 12:31.18 | olafski | hrm |
| 12:31.49 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah... the world has so many shades of grey. |
| 12:32.16 | zenzio | with a new Samsung TV you can get even more shades of grey! |
| 12:32.17 | krka | bra danmark! |
| 12:33.37 | Lopeppeppy | underwear Switzerland! |
| 12:37.01 | Fisker | 1 - 0 : Simon Busk Poulsen (46') |
| 12:37.04 | Fisker | FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU- |
| 12:37.07 | Zyn | FUUUUUUUU |
| 12:37.13 | Zyn | Holland should've scored there |
| 12:37.53 | Zyn | Fisker , put your pants on and get out there on the field, show them how it's done |
| 12:38.16 | Fisker | i'd just punch the judge in the face and flee to sweden |
| 12:38.21 | Fisker | judge? |
| 12:38.25 | Fisker | moar like referee |
| 12:38.50 | Zyn | you'll punch the judge in court when you're there cause of Assault on the referee |
| 12:39.21 | olafski | is holland vs denmark now? |
| 12:39.25 | Fisker | sure Zyn |
| 12:39.40 | Zyn | sure is, olafski |
| 12:39.49 | olafski | and denmark is leading? |
| 12:39.53 | Zyn | no :3 |
| 12:39.56 | olafski | oh |
| 12:40.00 | olafski | simon busk poulsen sounded danish |
| 12:40.12 | Zyn | more like scored in their own goal |
| 12:40.25 | olafski | oh.. lol |
| 12:40.43 | olafski | I wouldn't mind if holland lost this one and the next so this soccer stuff ends quickly |
| 12:44.42 | Zyn | that slow-mo save |
| 12:47.51 | Fisker | hey Zyn |
| 12:48.17 | Zyn | no |
| 12:48.22 | Fisker | oh |
| 12:48.36 | Zyn | Bendtner out, all hope for Denmark ended |
| 12:49.02 | olafski | can't they just beat us and be done with it? :( |
| 12:52.08 | Fisker | imma fuck you up olafski |
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| 12:58.44 | Zyn | Holland is stylin' |
| 13:05.35 | Kraps | lolsoccer |
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| 13:09.02 | Torhal | olafski: Don't make Fisker into your lifestalker. |
| 13:10.12 | olafski | I doubt he will leave his house to see me so I feel pretty safe |
| 13:10.24 | Kraps | i like the way Boub paraphrased this: "Lead developers are all working on the new MMO and we're all going to die" |
| 13:10.30 | Zyn | HAAH WAAW |
| 13:10.51 | Zyn | thou art screwed now, Derpmark |
| 13:12.11 | Mihau | Hehe, Derpmark. |
| 13:12.13 | olafski | :D |
| 13:13.09 | Zyn | OH WOW that was close |
| 13:15.14 | olafski | like 30cm :o |
| 13:15.22 | krka | that's what she said |
| 13:15.45 | olafski | what, you missed by 30cm krka? |
| 13:15.50 | olafski | impressive |
| 13:16.00 | krka | thanks! |
| 13:16.35 | Kraps | O_o |
| 13:17.04 | Kraps | o_ |
| 13:17.11 | Kraps | o_O |
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| 13:19.08 | Kraps | "But the majority of the âKill X number of Yâ stuff weâve gone and changed to feel more like the Northrend quest lines. So youâll see actual storylines developing, youâll get to use vehicles, youâll see phasing tech, stuff like that." |
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| 13:19.14 | Kraps | kthx |
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| 13:43.47 | Jerub | Bah. A friend of mine told me I'm too patronising. |
| 13:43.56 | Jerub | (That means I talk to people like they're stupid. |
| 13:44.28 | krka | :) |
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| 13:59.52 | olafski | nice one |
| 14:00.07 | olafski | kraps: oh dear.. more vehicles =( |
| 14:02.12 | foxlit | vehicles are fun :) |
| 14:02.45 | foxlit | As an occasional diversion to doing your usual thing. |
| 14:02.49 | zenzio | didn't you hear about the next expansion, World of Warcraft: Grand Theft Azeroth? |
| 14:03.48 | olafski | I very much dislike them :P |
| 14:04.09 | olafski | I did them for the wrath gate questline cause I couldn't advance it otherwise.. but I skip vehicle quests outside that quest chain |
| 14:04.30 | Lopeppeppy | I've got a hate for vehicle quests as well. |
| 14:04.43 | zenzio | I find vehicle quests nice when they're, you know, actual vehicles. But not when they're about riding giants and whatnot |
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| 14:05.47 | olafski | I didn't mind the bombing runs in hellfire peninsula |
| 14:05.55 | olafski | guess that's because you don't have to steer them yourself ;) |
| 14:05.57 | foxlit | I can't think of a single vehicle quest that wasn't painless on my playthrough |
| 14:06.18 | zenzio | painless or painful? |
| 14:06.19 | foxlit | The Nexus drakes are probably the trickiest, but that has a different purpose. |
| 14:06.22 | foxlit | painless. |
| 14:06.55 | airtonix | it's just when they didn't work as described. |
| 14:07.46 | foxlit | Most of the time they're woefully under-tuned |
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| 14:08.32 | foxlit | [And sometimes they stink of "Hey, guys, we can use vehicles!"] |
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| 14:10.16 | zenzio | yeah |
| 14:12.11 | Adys | http://blog.geekpress.com/2010/06/is-this-craziest-bridge-ever-designed.html |
| 14:13.13 | airtonix | Fisker, |
| 14:13.31 | Fisker | airtonix, |
| 14:13.37 | airtonix | Fisker, |
| 14:14.21 | Fisker | Adys |
| 14:14.24 | Fisker | i got a better one |
| 14:14.29 | Fisker | everyone drives in x side |
| 14:14.31 | Fisker | OR WE KEEL U |
| 14:14.46 | airtonix | curbs fiskers keel |
| 14:15.03 | Shirik | adys |
| 14:15.05 | Shirik | that is awesome |
| 14:15.10 | Adys | it is |
| 14:15.42 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 14:15.53 | airtonix | but gun turrets would be better |
| 14:16.03 | olafski | great stuff |
| 14:16.10 | olafski | those silly dutchies must have been stoned while they designed that :-) |
| 14:17.20 | Fisker | but airtonix |
| 14:17.21 | airtonix | oo that page has a link to http://www.dennisantinori.com/Resources/Ringworld/ |
| 14:17.22 | Fisker | you wouldn't |
| 14:17.32 | mikma | antiarc: go go code hud |
| 14:17.38 | Fisker | code blessed imo |
| 14:17.45 | airtonix | i always thought his books on that were the inspiriation for halos world |
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| 14:35.41 | Fisker | i'm disappoint airtonix |
| 14:36.00 | airtonix | explain |
| 14:36.19 | airtonix | isn't halo in a ring world ? |
| 14:36.21 | Adys | Fisker |
| 14:36.30 | airtonix | hence "halo" ? |
| 14:36.38 | Adys | Fisker I'm getting you an avatar |
| 14:36.45 | airtonix | he already has one |
| 14:37.21 | airtonix | http://imagebin.org/101282 |
| 14:39.15 | Shirik | isn't halo artificial? |
| 14:39.25 | airtonix | just like ring world |
| 14:39.34 | Shirik | ring world? |
| 14:39.39 | airtonix | larry niven ? |
| 14:39.52 | airtonix | oh right you're only 22 |
| 14:40.20 | theorbtwo | If you like the background of halo, find yourself a copy of ringworld. |
| 14:41.22 | airtonix | ringworld came first and niven is ocd about desvribing technical processes |
| 14:41.32 | airtonix | describing* |
| 14:42.41 | airtonix | Fisker, heres an old photo of you : http://imagebin.org/101286 |
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| 14:59.18 | Adys | Fisker |
| 15:05.19 | Fisker | hey airtonix |
| 15:06.25 | Fisker | also hey Adys |
| 15:06.33 | Adys | Finally |
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| 15:07.04 | Fisker | slaps kd3 around a bit with a large trout |
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| 15:12.25 | cogwheel | Ooooooohhhhhhh... Fisker's mom's a fish. She's a big fat fish. She's the biggest fish in the whole wide world. She's a mean old fish if there ever was a fish. She's a fish to all the boys and girls. |
| 15:13.51 | Kraps | wut |
| 15:16.09 | Kraps | olafski: "Youâll see much less vehicle combat in Tol Barad â thereâs still vehicles, but to a much lesser extent to what we saw in Wintergrasp." |
| 15:16.39 | olafski | not bad.. shame I don't care about pvp :) |
| 15:16.54 | Kraps | jmm |
| 15:17.03 | olafski | I only suffered wintergrasp to get some honor for the mounts |
| 15:17.13 | olafski | still missing one mount but I'll have to get that when I resub with cata |
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| 15:22.08 | Kraps | you can do bgs for honor |
| 15:23.29 | mikma | [18:21:47] From Bilzazrd: 4089_hello,Blizzard Entertainment notifies you that your WOW account has been chosen to participate in Cataclysm beta test. For more information please visit: www.blizzard-GM.net_2914 |
| 15:23.33 | mikma | hehe |
| 15:24.07 | Xinhuan | what's with the 4089 and 2914 |
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| 15:24.23 | olafski | yeah but wintergrasp goes a lot quicker |
| 15:24.35 | olafski | honor/time that is, not honor/day if you want to grind it all day |
| 15:24.46 | cogwheel | Kraps: cf Cartman's "Kyle's mom's a bitch" |
| 15:25.04 | Kraps | ah |
| 15:26.36 | Kraps | "Itâll easily be the biggest patch weâve ever done, by far. If you think about how big patch 3.3 was â something like 1.1 gig â itâs going to be much bigger than that." |
| 15:27.55 | airtonix | except no path of the titans |
| 15:28.01 | airtonix | soooo |
| 15:28.18 | Kraps | QQ |
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| 15:29.21 | cogwheel | ~lart function pointer declaration syntax |
| 15:29.21 | purl | installs PocketPC on function pointer declaration syntax's PDA |
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| 15:33.36 | airtonix | how do miracles work ? |
| 15:33.51 | Kraps | "We have âDance Studiosâ and other things on the wish list and never quite get to it, but still like the idea." |
| 15:34.12 | olafski | nice way to keep the hardcore fans happy I guess |
| 15:34.22 | olafski | "we'd like to add this if it required no effort or moneys" |
| 15:35.54 | Kraps | airtonix: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle |
| 15:35.58 | airtonix | thanks |
| 15:36.10 | cogwheel | fuckin magnets imo |
| 15:37.13 | airtonix | no cogwheel |
| 15:37.22 | airtonix | tesla coils |
| 15:38.00 | cogwheel | fuckin tesla coils how do they work? |
| 15:38.48 | airtonix | this requires a new definition |
| 15:38.52 | Kraps | cogwheel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_coils |
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| 15:38.59 | airtonix | fuuu |
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| 15:39.17 | cogwheel | you two need to watch Miracles by ICP imo |
| 15:39.22 | cogwheel | goes over your heards |
| 15:39.24 | cogwheel | heads* |
| 15:39.30 | airtonix | can i have a heard ? |
| 15:39.33 | Adys | Gnarfoz: ping |
| 15:41.34 | Adys | Alram: ping too |
| 15:41.41 | Alram | no |
| 15:41.44 | Adys | aye |
| 15:41.45 | Alram | screw you and your game |
| 15:41.46 | Alram | :( |
| 15:41.52 | Adys | its not about that |
| 15:41.54 | Alram | oh |
| 15:41.55 | Adys | but i did get 85k |
| 15:41.58 | Alram | ass |
| 15:42.10 | Kraps | 85k what? |
| 15:42.15 | miica | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:43.02 | Adys | Kraps: http://games.adultswim.com/robot-unicorn-attack-twitchy-online-game.html |
| 15:44.20 | Alram | Kraps, what have you done :( |
| 15:45.44 | Kraps | all ya'll leave me alone, i'm watching a movie |
| 15:46.19 | Kalroth_ | hot |
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| 15:51.47 | cogwheel | If you're late to special ed, is it appropriate for the teacher to call you tardy? |
| 15:53.03 | Ackis | lol cogwheel |
| 15:53.09 | Alram | yes it is |
| 15:53.14 | Ackis | then you get a letter Re: Tardy |
| 15:53.36 | sylvanaar_atwork | lol |
| 15:54.27 | airtonix | cogtard? |
| 15:54.39 | sylvanaar_atwork | i dont think that you can be late for special ed. though. |
| 15:54.57 | sylvanaar_atwork | so - there is a loophole |
| 15:55.32 | airtonix | in special education everyone is late |
| 15:55.41 | sylvanaar_atwork | noone expects you to be on time |
| 15:55.51 | airtonix | i meant late in education |
| 15:55.51 | sylvanaar_atwork | because you are ... special |
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| 15:56.46 | Lunessa | station |
| 15:56.52 | cogwheel | ohai |
| 15:57.03 | Lopeppeppy | heya. |
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| 16:09.33 | Kraps | Lunessa: |
| 16:09.40 | Kraps | Station (from Latin statio) commonly refers to: |
| 16:09.42 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:09.43 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:09.45 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:09.46 | Kraps | Station may also refer to: |
| 16:10.13 | Fisker | busstop |
| 16:10.15 | Kraps | a whole bunch of shit |
| 16:10.39 | Kraps | Computer networks |
| 16:10.40 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:10.42 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:10.43 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:10.45 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:10.46 | zenzelezz | ... |
| 16:10.46 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:10.48 | zenzelezz | pastey |
| 16:10.55 | Cairenn|afk | Kraps: .... |
| 16:11.07 | Kraps | pastey |
| 16:11.20 | Duman | heh |
| 16:11.29 | Kraps | Did you mean: pastry |
| 16:11.31 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=13705612440&pageNo=1&sid=1 <-pwnt |
| 16:11.47 | cogwheel | Kraps: pastey as opposed to spamey |
| 16:12.03 | Fisker | slaps cogwheel around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:12.13 | cogwheel | Ooooooohhhhhhh... Fisker's mom's a fish. She's a big fat fish. She's the biggest fish in the whole wide world. She's a mean old fish if there ever was a fish. She's a fish to all the boys and girls. |
| 16:12.42 | Kraps | Fisker: wow |
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| 16:13.29 | Lunessa | Good lord Kraps. |
| 16:13.39 | Kraps | ohai Lunessa |
| 16:14.00 | Ackis | http://www.fukung.net/images/29501/67c47fe78562b8a921c9a8074c44d0a5.gif sfw |
| 16:14.06 | Fisker | why so mean cogwheel? :( |
| 16:14.17 | Torhal | He learned it from watching you, Fisker. |
| 16:14.19 | Kraps | oh snap Ackis |
| 16:14.56 | Torhal | Ackis: Oh noes |
| 16:15.14 | Ackis | oh noes it's teh Torhal |
| 16:15.27 | Ackis | I had a dream about you last night I think |
| 16:15.32 | Ackis | it involved wow addons |
| 16:15.34 | Ackis | and lube |
| 16:16.19 | Torhal | You should snuggle your woman more, you know. |
| 16:16.28 | Lunessa | Ackis: Just because your recipe list needs an oil change is no cause for you to start insinuating you had sex with it. |
| 16:16.47 | Ackis | :P |
| 16:17.40 | Lunessa | And ... this is just WRONG: http://www.gucomics.com/comic/?cdate=20100611 |
| 16:20.12 | jnwhiteh | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/63525c39a9205e90a0c2801be600cce3.png |
| 16:20.40 | Arrowmaster | is that what i think it is? |
| 16:20.41 | Fisker | that's pretty bad |
| 16:21.20 | jnwhiteh | 23.7k |
| 16:21.29 | Arrowmaster | actually no, i have no clue what that is |
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| 16:21.38 | jnwhiteh | Adys: does =) |
| 16:21.40 | Ackis | heh that unicorn game |
| 16:22.05 | jnwhiteh | sioraiocht and I are sitting here playing it, listening to the music in stereo =) |
| 16:22.21 | Adys | jnwhiteh: hahah |
| 16:22.30 | Adys | win <3 |
| 16:22.43 | Adys | this game is so addictive :( |
| 16:22.48 | jnwhiteh | I think we've lost a collective man-hour to this game. |
| 16:22.53 | jnwhiteh | in my household alone. |
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| 16:24.13 | Fisker | a man hour? |
| 16:24.23 | Kalroth_ | how fitting |
| 16:25.00 | jnwhiteh | "Hold onnnnnn... to the night... there will be no shame...." |
| 16:25.29 | jnwhiteh | Oooh. HoN 1.3.0! |
| 16:25.37 | jnwhiteh | err, 1.0.3.0 |
| 16:26.53 | Kalroth_ | from one gay game to another! |
| 16:28.57 | Adys | jnwhiteh: always, i wanna be with you! |
| 16:29.26 | Lunessa | I'm concerned about this whole "dashing through stars" thing. |
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| 16:32.33 | foxlit | "1 25 Man Raid = 50% of 1 10 man. 2 10s = 100%" |
| 16:32.46 | foxlit | ... overwhelming idiocy. |
| 16:34.06 | olafski | interesting mathematics |
| 16:35.04 | foxlit | Mathematics is doomed long before it is actually attempted in those threads. |
| 16:37.45 | NightHawkTheSane | this is all kinds of fucked up http://notalwaysright.com/twilight-vs-holy-light/5804 |
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| 16:42.13 | Lunessa | foxlit: Thanks to your reposting that nugget, I think I've lost IQ points. |
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| 16:50.29 | Shirik_ | I love coming back to comments I wrote a year later |
| 16:50.54 | Shirik_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:51.51 | Kraps | foxlit: why is it 25mans and not 20? |
| 16:54.30 | zenzelezz | Shirik_: what features? |
| 16:54.46 | Shirik_ | LINQ |
| 16:54.47 | Shirik_ | It took LINQ to the max |
| 16:54.58 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 16:55.08 | zenzelezz | what's LINQ? I thought it was some sort of network equipment manufacturer |
| 16:55.15 | cogwheel | !g linq |
| 16:55.16 | batbot | cogwheel: LINQ <http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/netframework/aa904594.aspx> |
| 16:55.22 | Shirik_ | oh |
| 16:55.28 | Shirik_ | I apologize, it has an anonymous delegate in it too |
| 16:55.40 | zenzelezz | ah, I see |
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| 16:56.22 | cogwheel | zenzelezz: it's a cleaned up OO-ified SQL like syntax built into C# & VB.Net |
| 16:56.23 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 16:56.38 | zenzelezz | I remember hearing about it when they introduced it, must've forgotten the name since |
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| 17:02.56 | sylvanaar_atwork | it is a very cool tech |
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| 17:17.57 | Fisker | slaps sylvanaar_atwork around a bit with a large trout |
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| 17:23.26 | Fisker | http://store.steampowered.com/sale/ea_week <-i love EA's BS math |
| 17:24.56 | olafski | the pack is the same price as the 2 things separate.. aren't packs usually cheaper? :S |
| 17:25.34 | zenzelezz | you think that's weird? A local store sells single pizzas for 34 NOK, and two-packs for 73 NOK |
| 17:25.52 | olafski | lol |
| 17:25.53 | Fisker | lol |
| 17:26.00 | Fisker | olafski it's more expensive |
| 17:26.02 | olafski | stupidity markup |
| 17:26.03 | Fisker | 1 cent actually |
| 17:26.06 | olafski | sure 1 cent |
| 17:26.14 | olafski | care.. I'd figure the 2-pack would be like 15 euro instead |
| 17:26.17 | theorbtwo | Cute. |
| 17:26.24 | Fisker | still i'm wondering how many hits they get on this just by laziness |
| 17:26.43 | olafski | dunno how many clicks it requires to order something on steam |
| 17:26.47 | olafski | I'd probably get the pack as well |
| 17:26.59 | olafski | if I cared about crysis or wanted to buy stuff on steam |
| 17:26.59 | theorbtwo | Or people who look at the three, decide which they want, and then decide if it's too expensive. |
| 17:27.32 | theorbtwo | Here, though, it's quite clear what happened -- they took the existing, sane, price lineup, and decided to halve the prices of each of them. |
| 17:27.45 | theorbtwo | At normal prices, it's cheaper to buy the multipack. |
| 17:28.18 | olafski | I wouldn't consider the normal prices to be sane either |
| 17:28.20 | mikma | moonwitch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWjiFhG0HPI&fmt=18 |
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| 17:28.30 | olafski | a pack still has to have some advantage.. you want to entice people to buy more stuff at once I thought |
| 17:29.05 | theorbtwo | olafski: Sane in as much as the multipack works out to less expensive then buying the two seperately. |
| 17:29.17 | Ackis | they had a sale on the weekend where the pack was 4x as buying it individually |
| 17:29.21 | olafski | sure but 1 cent isn't enough incentive to buy more :P |
| 17:29.25 | Adys | Fisker: you like your avatar? :( |
| 17:29.26 | theorbtwo | Norm 20+20 vs 30. |
| 17:29.36 | olafski | you could just buy crysis first, play through it then buy warhead (or not if you didn't like crysis) |
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| 17:29.56 | theorbtwo | Wait. Nevermind. It's just showing me GBP prices instead of EUR prices. |
| 17:30.23 | theorbtwo | The GBP prices are 10+10 vs 15, which is saner. |
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| 17:32.45 | Fisker | omg what am i? :O |
| 17:32.56 | Adys | Fisker: the robot! |
| 17:33.06 | Adys | he runs linux |
| 17:33.10 | Adys | i figured it'd fit you |
| 17:33.15 | Adys | it was that or the ipod. |
| 17:33.24 | Fisker | oh |
| 17:33.34 | Fisker | rather linux than ipod by far |
| 17:33.40 | Adys | see |
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| 17:35.17 | theorbtwo | Nah, Fisker would clearly run a BSD of some sort. NetBSD seems to be the one with the smallest userbase, so let's go with that. |
| 17:35.27 | Fisker | :( |
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| 17:40.15 | zenzelezz | lies |
| 17:40.22 | zenzelezz | Fisker exclusively runs Unfix |
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| 17:42.23 | Amarande | G'afternoon :) |
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| 17:43.59 | mikma | cairenn|afk: http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/sad_mans_kamasutra.gif |
| 17:44.44 | zenzelezz | O_o |
| 17:45.39 | mikma | also, this is my new background image in windows: http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/seemerollin.jpg |
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| 17:45.43 | mikma | i lol'd |
| 17:45.47 | Fisker | awesome |
| 17:46.04 | Fisker | been disconnected twice on blood queen now |
| 17:46.31 | Amarande | hey, those fangs are sharp |
| 17:47.31 | Fisker | fuck yeah |
| 17:48.35 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/e3?feature=ticker |
| 17:57.04 | Gnarfoz | <Adys> Gnarfoz: ping <-- 'sup? |
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| 18:04.13 | alestane | Dang it, I thought I had an old Mac OS 8.5 install disc somewhere. |
| 18:04.27 | Fisker | for what? |
| 18:04.40 | olafski | coaster |
| 18:04.53 | Gnarfoz | frisbee |
| 18:04.55 | zenzelezz | why would you want that? |
| 18:05.01 | sylvanaar_atwork | i have 7.1 if you want it |
| 18:05.12 | zenzelezz | on the other hand, I would be surprised if you had a NEW Mac OS 8.5 install disc |
| 18:05.15 | Lunessa | *sigh* Someone just brought me the most wretchedly infected laptop ever. |
| 18:06.05 | alestane | Because I have a game with a very solid level editor, and the OS X version supports the game shell only. If I want my students building a level, I need an OS 8-9 installation disc. |
| 18:06.32 | Fisker | hey alestane |
| 18:06.44 | alestane | Hey, Fisker. |
| 18:06.45 | Lunessa | http://wiki.oldos.org/ - Check here? |
| 18:06.56 | Fisker | i didn't know macs existed before mac os x? |
| 18:07.02 | zenzelezz | I remember making a Counter-Strike level of my school at the time... had to convert it from hostage rescue to bombing level because no-one wanted to save teachers |
| 18:07.24 | alestane | 7.5 has actually been released publicly, but I'll need a different ROM in that case. |
| 18:07.24 | Kraps | HAHAHAHAHA WHY WOULD I WAVE AT MY TV IF I CAN JUST PRESS A BUTTON |
| 18:07.29 | Dagmar | You do that now, and they'll throw you in fuckin' jail |
| 18:07.38 | zenzelezz | Dagmar: not in Norway |
| 18:07.39 | Kraps | SRSLY MICROSOFT |
| 18:08.14 | Dagmar | zenzelezz: Ahh |
| 18:08.15 | Fisker | i would Kraps |
| 18:08.17 | zenzelezz | Kraps: MS is forgetting that their two consoles have eradicated all the muscles necessary to use the, what was it, Kinetic? |
| 18:08.43 | Lunessa | I finally looked at the web designer who brought this machine to me and said "Sorry, I'm going to have to wipe it. And quit letting your son use your work laptop." |
| 18:09.19 | Fisker | poor job Lunessa |
| 18:09.41 | Lunessa | Not worth saving. Not worth saving at all. |
| 18:09.58 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, some laptops need to be boiled in Lysol, you know. |
| 18:10.02 | alestane | One of my friends had to lay down the law to his roomate about not surfing porn on his laptop when he left it unattended (or any other time, really). |
| 18:10.37 | Dagmar | Time to install some "special" filtering software. |
| 18:10.40 | Lunessa | I found no less than 4 torrent clients, and nearly every system file infected. |
| 18:10.58 | Lopeppeppy | Ooof. Wipe. Never give back. |
| 18:11.15 | Dagmar | Say... something that substitues all images the filter determines to be "objectionable content" with something more meaningful... like TubGirl shots |
| 18:11.20 | Lunessa | Disabled the firewall, disabled the AV software, and installed some fake app that kept disabling AV software. |
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| 18:12.14 | Lunessa | Seriously, kid... get a job, buy a laptop so you can steal movies and music and porn on your own computer. |
| 18:12.30 | theorbtwo | For many people, I think, having their machine wiped is becomming less bad, since we live in the cloud so much these days. |
| 18:13.15 | Lunessa | Since all the legitimate user needs on this machine is the OS, VPN software, and remote desktop... wiping it is a good solution. |
| 18:14.05 | Dagmar | theorbtwo: The sad thing is that even though the internet is inherently a two-way system, most people are just passive, consumer cows and don't generate anything worth putting on a cloud, let alone making backups of |
| 18:14.21 | Dagmar | That's why it's not so terrible when they lose their "data" because they don't have any |
| 18:14.56 | theorbtwo | Dagmar: Partly. Even such people have address books and the like... which are on their webmail hosts these days. |
| 18:15.44 | Dagmar | Yeah |
| 18:15.49 | Dagmar | That's not exactly "content" |
| 18:15.55 | zenzelezz | <Dagmar> theorbtwo: The sad thing is that even though the internet is inherently a two-way system, most people are just passive, consumer cows and don't generate anything worth putting on a cloud <--- nonsense, there's tons of homemade porn! |
| 18:16.07 | Dagmar | zenzelezz: Well, yeah there is that. Hehe |
| 18:16.20 | Lunessa | zenzelezz: Most of that isn't worth putting on the cloud. |
| 18:16.42 | Dagmar | Better than it used to be |
| 18:16.55 | Dagmar | "amatuer" used to be synonymous with "people no one would pay to see naked" |
| 18:17.20 | theorbtwo | Dagmar: You just need to have enough people before you filtering out the utter drek. |
| 18:17.26 | Lunessa | Usually it still is. |
| 18:17.39 | zenzelezz | Lunessa: you need better sources |
| 18:17.56 | Lunessa | zenzelezz: I am pretty picky about my porn. |
| 18:18.05 | Dagmar | Well, now the technology for digital video recording is simple enough that even a stripper can use it |
| 18:18.07 | zenzelezz | so am I, that's why I have sources |
| 18:18.41 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:18.56 | Lunessa | Dagmar: I laughed - I'm going to use that line. |
| 18:19.05 | Fisker | are you implying that strippers are stupid? |
| 18:19.09 | zenzelezz | certainly not, rapidshare is lacking in both rapidness and sharing |
| 18:19.51 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:20.22 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:20.42 | Fisker | porn is quickly gone :( |
| 18:20.46 | Arrowmaster | all those kinda file sharing sites are the same |
| 18:20.49 | zenzelezz | Dagmar: well, in truth it's been years since I tried to use Rapidshare for anything |
| 18:20.54 | Dagmar | Fisker: How is that a problem? |
| 18:21.16 | Fisker | sharing is caring |
| 18:21.21 | Dagmar | zenzeless: I get a giggle out of re-upping my subscription every time I want a PTR patch |
| 18:21.46 | Lunessa | So many places in the internet are giving away quality porn for free. I'm happy to let it live on the cloud. |
| 18:21.55 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: why would you do that? |
| 18:22.06 | Fisker | that's low quality streaming porn |
| 18:22.20 | Fisker | not high quality copyright infringement porn |
| 18:22.33 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Because I have a warped sense of humor... by the same token I'm seriously considering buying a webcam *just* to own a webcam that will never be used for ChatRoulett |
| 18:23.14 | Arrowmaster | you know i think i actually have a webcam somewhere around here |
| 18:23.21 | Dagmar | I'm probably one of the minority giving Rapidshare ten bucks for legitimate content |
| 18:23.34 | Arrowmaster | one of those lego vision ones thats like 640x480 res |
| 18:23.36 | Lunessa | I own several web cameras. They come built-in to nearly every computer I've purchased in the last 5 years. |
| 18:23.51 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: why would you ever pay that shitty site |
| 18:23.56 | Dagmar | All the ones I currently have are from the QuickCam era |
| 18:24.03 | Fisker | only camera i'll ever get that isn't built-in is the natal |
| 18:24.17 | Dagmar | If you want to do some nightvision stuff, AND HAVE A PARALLEL PORT HANDY they're great |
| 18:24.27 | Dagmar | Beyond that they all suck and need to go visit Trashland |
| 18:24.32 | Fisker | you know what Microsoft hsould do though? |
| 18:24.41 | Fisker | Use that research the Wii guy did on headtracking |
| 18:24.44 | Fisker | 3D games |
| 18:24.46 | Fisker | presto |
| 18:24.53 | sylvanaar_atwork | Fisker: the sony version is supposed to be better |
| 18:25.25 | Fisker | i don't think that'll be compatible with the PC? |
| 18:25.25 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: because I have no patience with some things, and it's at least a more honest deal than Fileplanet |
| 18:25.36 | Fisker | also gestures > another controller |
| 18:25.38 | Arrowmaster | no its not |
| 18:26.04 | Arrowmaster | and there are free mirrors from the community that are just as fast |
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| 18:26.29 | Fisker | just use the webseed |
| 18:26.30 | Fisker | problem solved |
| 18:27.20 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Rapidshare's IP-based download restrictions are fairly easily bypassed. Fileplanet regularly is the only source for "open" beta keys, given to subscribers only |
| 18:28.09 | alestane | I like this concept of "drugs for computers": http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=874 |
| 18:28.10 | Dagmar | So, to put it bluntly, I give them money because I don't *have* to |
| 18:30.35 | Arrowmaster | i want all those sites to die so i cant forgive anybody that pays them |
| 18:31.01 | Dagmar | They're also handy whne you have to distribute say, an hour long DJ set |
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| 18:31.57 | Dagmar | ...although generally I use mediafire for that, since htey seem to not come up with so many hits that would indicate porno when you pester Google about them |
| 18:32.18 | xanax` | hi |
| 18:32.40 | Arrowmaster | mediafire is the only somewhat decent one, no delay and no lockout after a set amount |
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| 18:34.54 | Cairenn|afk | mikma: lol |
| 18:36.17 | Shirik_ | here foxlit |
| 18:36.21 | Shirik_ | this is why linq is awesome |
| 18:36.23 | Shirik_ | I just wrote this |
| 18:36.32 | Shirik_ | var types = from match in Main.Repository.FindElements(type) where match is ConcreteClass || match is ConcreteInterface let header = Main.Repository.GetHeaderFile(match) where header != null group match by header into matches select new {Types = matches, Header = matches.Key}; |
| 18:36.40 | Shirik_ | that was on multiple lines |
| 18:36.41 | Shirik_ | but you get the idea |
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| 18:41.27 | Fisker | i don't Shirik |
| 18:41.46 | airtonix | wtb new lines |
| 18:41.50 | xanax` | jnwhiteh : thank you very much for your help, earlier today. |
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| 18:44.50 | Ackis | wow |
| 18:44.55 | Ackis | Kinect seems... good |
| 18:45.12 | Ackis | it tracked a woman taking off her sweater |
| 18:45.19 | Ackis | wonders if it can track erections.... |
| 18:45.29 | Ackis | whole new genre of game amiright |
| 18:45.41 | Fisker | with you it would need very nice optical zoom |
| 18:45.48 | Ackis | well played |
| 18:45.50 | Fisker | perhaps an optional wireless connected microscope |
| 18:46.14 | Fisker | and every time you get a boner it'll look like this O_o |
| 18:48.07 | Fisker | anything good from the keynote yet Ackis ? |
| 18:49.00 | Ackis | kinetic stuff seems interesting |
| 18:49.03 | Ackis | ESPN deal |
| 18:49.27 | Ackis | a dance game aka rockband but you dance |
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| 18:51.03 | Ackis | it launches November 4th |
| 18:53.04 | Ackis | just showed a star wars trailer... nifty |
| 18:53.08 | zenzelezz | http://www.theonion.com/interactive/the-onion-sports-introduction-to-world-cup-soccer,17558/ |
| 18:55.13 | miica | i was wondering how much table structure effects to memory amount table use :o |
| 18:55.58 | miica | like does this {["name"] = "Jorma", ["address"] = "foobar"} use more than {["n"] = "Jorma", ["a"] = "foobar"} |
| 18:56.45 | miica | and how about does boolean true/false use more than int 1/0 |
| 18:57.04 | mikma | jorma xD |
| 18:57.15 | mikma | terskamaheppis |
| 18:59.25 | NightHawkTheSane | miica: the difference between the two is insignificant compared to the headache of maintaining less descriptive code later. |
| 18:59.33 | Ackis | xbox 360 "slim" announced heh |
| 18:59.45 | Ackis | released... today |
| 18:59.47 | NightHawkTheSane | miica: always, always, always code for readability, functionality, and maintainability (in no particular order) before optimization. |
| 19:00.05 | mikma | ackis: oh, got a picture / link? |
| 19:00.29 | Ackis | mikma: not yet |
| 19:00.43 | Ackis | it's slimmer, quieter, 250 gig HD and built in wifi |
| 19:00.57 | Ackis | 802.11n |
| 19:01.04 | Ackis | people in the audience htere get them for free |
| 19:01.57 | Ackis | http://tweetphoto.com/27240384 |
| 19:05.04 | mikma | kinda hot |
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| 19:09.34 | Lunessa | I think I'm going to set up this laptop so that the user doesn't have admin access. |
| 19:09.51 | Lunessa | So I don't have to do this again in a month. |
| 19:10.10 | Ackis | http://tweetphoto.com/27240880 |
| 19:10.23 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm. Could be good, but if that's not the standard for all of your laptops, that could also get you into trouble. |
| 19:10.31 | Lunessa | And name the user account for her son, "Stop Pirating, Punk" |
| 19:11.18 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: The machine is out of inventory. I can get away with pretty much anything that doesn't involve sodomizing it. |
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| 19:12.44 | Ackis | but we know you want to sodomize it |
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| 19:13.10 | kd3 | that's a fine line to walk in to |
| 19:15.19 | MoonWitch | ping Cairenn Seerah |
| 19:15.25 | Cairenn | MoonWitch: pong |
| 19:15.27 | Seerah | hola, MoonWitch |
| 19:15.34 | MoonWitch | :D |
| 19:15.44 | MoonWitch | great company I am in |
| 19:16.16 | MoonWitch | Cairenn: you can cuss like a pirate, I love you more now. |
| 19:16.16 | MoonWitch | Seerah: You're just amazing, nothing more can or should be said. |
| 19:16.28 | Cairenn | MoonWitch: heh |
| 19:16.35 | Cairenn | huggles MoonWitch |
| 19:16.37 | kd3 | tweaks an eyebrow |
| 19:16.40 | Seerah | :) |
| 19:17.01 | MoonWitch | http://www.teomyr.eu/wowuidev/irc-quotes?ids=117#quote-117 < this had me laughing for a while Cairenn .. I had no idea |
| 19:18.19 | Lunessa | Since there's only 7 days left where I can change the names on tix, anyone still need a BC ticket? |
| 19:18.21 | Cairenn | I don't actually use the last word in that quote |
| 19:18.28 | Cairenn | I HATE that word |
| 19:18.36 | MoonWitch | As do I, but it had me laughing |
| 19:18.42 | MoonWitch | I didn't even know you cussed |
| 19:18.50 | Cairenn | Oh yeah, I do |
| 19:18.58 | MoonWitch | So it shattered all my thoughts on you being all prim and proper |
| 19:18.59 | Kalroth_ | well using "cocksucking motherfucking vagina" as an insult just seems wrong |
| 19:19.07 | MoonWitch | True |
| 19:19.14 | Ackis | http://i.imgur.com/NSapO.jpg |
| 19:19.14 | Seerah | prim and proper :) /snort |
| 19:19.15 | Cairenn | I worked with the military and with a construction company - I can curse with the best of them |
| 19:19.25 | Cairenn | Seerah: *giggle* |
| 19:19.26 | MoonWitch | but there are suitable replacement words Kalroth |
| 19:19.34 | MoonWitch | Yeah, Seerah told me lol |
| 19:19.47 | Kalroth_ | MoonWitch: Yeah but I'm sure Cairenn will dislike them too |
| 19:19.56 | airtonix | gasp |
| 19:20.08 | Kalroth_ | tries to think of a non-insulting insult for the female genitalia. |
| 19:20.09 | MoonWitch | airtonix: who gasp? |
| 19:20.21 | airtonix | fanny? |
| 19:20.22 | Cairenn | Kalroth_: no other word offends me as much as that one |
| 19:20.37 | Kalroth_ | Cairenn: That sounds like a challenge! |
| 19:20.44 | Lunessa | Even the non-derogatory words sound pretty bad. |
| 19:20.44 | Cairenn | Don't go there |
| 19:20.48 | Kalroth_ | haha |
| 19:20.52 | MoonWitch | the "we have our reasons esse" pisses me off too |
| 19:20.56 | Kalroth_ | I wouldn't. :) |
| 19:20.59 | airtonix | well i always thought fanny meant buttocks |
| 19:21.08 | Kalroth_ | It does |
| 19:21.10 | MoonWitch | ah but in the UK it is not |
| 19:21.11 | airtonix | well then |
| 19:21.12 | Cairenn | airtonix: in North America it does |
| 19:21.16 | Cairenn | but not in the UK |
| 19:21.18 | airtonix | there we are |
| 19:21.22 | Kalroth_ | Crazy brits |
| 19:21.30 | Cairenn | goes back to her meeting |
| 19:21.33 | MoonWitch | needless to say, said word can cause quite the confusion |
| 19:21.36 | MoonWitch | meetings suck |
| 19:21.37 | cogwheel | goes to england wearing suspenders and a fanny pack |
| 19:21.44 | Seerah | lol |
| 19:21.49 | MoonWitch | we are more fun than meetings |
| 19:21.49 | Kalroth_ | goes searching for a fag |
| 19:21.56 | MoonWitch | ... |
| 19:22.02 | airtonix | what ? |
| 19:22.04 | Cairenn | hands Kalroth one of hers |
| 19:22.09 | cogwheel | Kalroth_ likes to put fags in his mouth |
| 19:22.10 | MoonWitch | you smoke too? |
| 19:22.10 | Kalroth_ | (I stopped smoking, soo ..) |
| 19:22.17 | Cairenn | heh |
| 19:22.27 | MoonWitch | I need to have a talk with your hubby lolol |
| 19:22.33 | airtonix | mentions fire |
| 19:22.47 | Kalroth_ | I actually stopped smoking about 6-7 months ago, still going strong! |
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| 19:22.56 | Cairenn | yay Kalroth! |
| 19:22.57 | MoonWitch | Kalroth keep it up :) |
| 19:23.11 | MoonWitch | trust the smokers to encourage those who just quit >.< |
| 19:23.12 | Kalroth_ | Been smoking for uhhh, since I was 13-14, so ~17 years |
| 19:23.17 | airtonix | lol |
| 19:23.27 | airtonix | tabacco is a gateway drug |
| 19:23.39 | MoonWitch | as is coffee .. |
| 19:23.45 | airtonix | you missed being a ganster by about three weeks |
| 19:23.54 | Kalroth_ | I actually liked smoking, I didn't like the morning cough though :) |
| 19:24.00 | MoonWitch | I am one seriously addicted person, no smokes, no coffee, no food -- I'll kill for em |
| 19:24.09 | Kalroth_ | And damn, ashtrays smell bad now |
| 19:24.14 | MoonWitch | quit waking up in the mornings? |
| 19:24.15 | Kalroth_ | They didn't before |
| 19:24.18 | airtonix | yeah one moring i had a coffee and that night i was snorting lines and lines of coke |
| 19:24.20 | MoonWitch | that helps a morning cough |
| 19:24.31 | Kalroth_ | MoonWitch: Boss wouldn't approve of that |
| 19:24.38 | Cairenn | okay, gotta minimize this window, you guys are distracting me too much |
| 19:24.39 | MoonWitch | is he strict? |
| 19:24.40 | Cairenn | :p |
| 19:24.44 | MoonWitch | sorry Cairenn |
| 19:24.45 | Kalroth_ | :P |
| 19:24.49 | MoonWitch | I still love you though! |
| 19:24.54 | Cairenn | :) |
| 19:25.02 | MoonWitch | I just had the scariest thought ... |
| 19:25.06 | airtonix | just put it on the other screen |
| 19:25.11 | Kalroth_ | All bosses are strict, just look at her that minimized the window |
| 19:25.26 | MoonWitch | Imagine if one of you guys/girls is someone from my work ... |
| 19:25.35 | Kalroth_ | Small world! |
| 19:25.36 | airtonix | screams |
| 19:25.50 | MoonWitch | oh well, I am just as bad on twitter which is where all bosses are |
| 19:26.02 | MoonWitch | (at least all those above me in hierarchy are as well) |
| 19:26.32 | MoonWitch | airtonix: why scream? |
| 19:26.38 | MoonWitch | shrieking is more fun |
| 19:26.42 | Kraps | whut gnoing on in did tred? |
| 19:26.53 | MoonWitch | what? |
| 19:27.27 | NightHawkTheSane | that was almost english. |
| 19:27.31 | NightHawkTheSane | care to try again? |
| 19:27.40 | airtonix | no |
| 19:27.48 | airtonix | i can't bare it |
| 19:28.04 | NightHawkTheSane | that's very good. |
| 19:28.24 | NightHawkTheSane | No one really wants you to bare it. |
| 19:28.27 | Kraps | waht is heer in teh traed? |
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| 19:29.27 | MoonWitch | lolol |
| 19:29.39 | MoonWitch | why do i keep typing secutity? |
| 19:30.11 | Kraps | titties > everything |
| 19:30.20 | airtonix | ah sense |
| 19:30.37 | airtonix | hello Kraps |
| 19:30.52 | Kraps | ohai airtonix |
| 19:31.02 | airtonix | i think you should stop taking as much LSD as me |
| 19:31.16 | airtonix | stick to coffee |
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| 19:35.26 | Dagmar | He's not taking LSD. |
| 19:35.30 | Dagmar | I'd know it if he was. |
| 19:35.44 | Kraps | you would? |
| 19:35.46 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:36.13 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:36.41 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:40.19 | Seerah | you've got hairy teeth? |
| 19:41.01 | Kraps | save me from the nothing i've become |
| 19:41.50 | Dagmar | Seerah: If you'd done LSD you'd know what I mean by that |
| 19:42.03 | Seerah | now why would I do something like that? :p |
| 19:42.05 | Dagmar | Whether or not your teeth are hairy bears little on whether or not you can feel the hairs stnad up |
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| 19:42.38 | Dagmar | Gotta watch out for the trumpet in the throat, too. That's bad juju |
| 19:43.15 | Fisker | imma |
| 19:43.16 | Fisker | IMMA |
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| 19:45.39 | Kraps | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?sid=1&topicId=25399601670&pageNo=10#193 |
| 19:45.49 | zenzelezz | the Internet - where just eating a sandwich in public can make you (again) the subject of a meme |
| 19:45.52 | zenzelezz | poor Keanu |
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| 19:47.13 | Dagmar | Kraps: The amount of bullshit coming from that sector is plenty proof that there was no need to keep 25-mans around as a special tier of equipment |
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| 19:51.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: you have no idea how pleased i am with most of the raid changes in cata :) |
| 19:52.16 | Fisker | i think the changes are a fix for a different problem |
| 19:53.07 | Fisker | i think it's just to smoothen out the server load |
| 19:53.17 | Ackis | are they bringing back 40 man raids in cataclysm? |
| 19:53.20 | Fisker | no |
| 19:53.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Fisker: i dont care why they're making them, i just like them. |
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| 19:55.32 | Fisker | I think it'll be a nice thing for alts |
| 19:56.02 | Ackis | what raid changes are they making? :D |
| 19:56.05 | Ackis | wait |
| 19:56.07 | Ackis | I don't care |
| 19:56.08 | Ackis | lulz |
| 19:56.20 | Fisker | they're basically consolidating 10-man and 25-man raids |
| 19:56.39 | Ackis | can you set up cross-server groups yet to raid? |
| 19:56.55 | Jamash | no |
| 19:57.39 | olafski | 10man getting the same loot as 25man |
| 19:57.44 | olafski | being able to split 25man into 3 10man groups |
| 19:57.57 | Ackis | 25 == 30? |
| 19:58.01 | Dagmar | Most importantly, no more bullshit about them being "harder" |
| 19:58.14 | Dagmar | Ackis: If you have 25 people surely you can pug 5 more |
| 19:58.31 | Kraps | NightHawkTheSane: you're a longtime player? |
| 19:58.31 | Ackis | well, 25 == 30 in integers modulo 5 amiright? |
| 19:58.32 | Dagmar | ...or you could just drop the dead wood morons and have two 10 mans with less idiocy |
| 19:58.56 | olafski | the point was that if 5 less people show up on the second raid day in a week you can still play |
| 19:59.06 | olafski | (or if 5 more show up you can still play too) |
| 19:59.31 | Ackis | they still have 25 man raids? is it all on the same lockout schedule (ie: can we do 3 10 mans and a 25 man to get 4x teh lootz)? |
| 19:59.47 | Dagmar | I think that's probably going away as well |
| 19:59.55 | kd3 | no. 10s and 25s are on the same ID |
| 20:00.08 | Ackis | ah |
| 20:00.15 | Ackis | making the game more casual, that's a good thing |
| 20:00.28 | olafski | yeah they didn't want people to feel like they "have to" do the same boss twice every week |
| 20:00.36 | zenzelezz | http://twitter.com/TheVuvuzelaHorn |
| 20:00.44 | Dagmar | Ackis: Yes, definitely |
| 20:01.09 | Ackis | haha zenzelezz that's win |
| 20:01.11 | olafski | I still wish there'd be a proper guild that raids once a week and uses the lockout extension to still get something done :P |
| 20:01.17 | Fisker | i don't think it's making the game more casual |
| 20:01.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Kraps: relativly speaking, i am, yes. |
| 20:01.33 | foxlit | Following it is weird, though |
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| 20:01.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Kraps: i fail to see what bearing that has on anything, though? |
| 20:01.49 | Ackis | Fisker: instead of doing 2 raids a week, you only need to do one /shrug |
| 20:02.08 | olafski | well atm you can get by with only one raid per week anyway |
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| 20:02.20 | olafski | since 25man has better loot, if your guild does 25man there's not much point doing 10man |
| 20:02.21 | Kraps | why do longtime players like these changes? i dont lean either way, i just find it interedting |
| 20:02.26 | olafski | except to learn the encounters |
| 20:02.29 | Dagmar | Folks who suck at the game and are just their guild's version of a benchwarmer will find themselves no longer so easily in possession of purples, and this is ALSO a good thing |
| 20:02.37 | Ackis | olafski: iirc there were BIS stuff in 10 mans |
| 20:02.47 | NightHawkTheSane | olafski: except there are some 10-man items that are superior, and increased emblem aquisition rate |
| 20:03.09 | olafski | oh yeah the emblems, good point |
| 20:03.21 | MoonWitch | meh -- laptop bags are a bitch to find (at least when looking sexy and all) |
| 20:03.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Kraps: it has nothing to do with being a longtime player, and everything to do with the fact that I dont want to feel like a second class citizen because I only choose to raid 10m, or only 25m, and not both. |
| 20:03.46 | Dagmar | MoonWitch: Yer lookin' to pay extra money? Look into Swiss Army backpacks |
| 20:03.46 | Kraps | mmm |
| 20:04.03 | Dagmar | Moonwitch: I've got an Alliance patch over the logo on mine |
| 20:04.04 | Jamash | MoonWitch: Ogio makes awesome bags |
| 20:04.17 | MoonWitch | Dagmar: I have a sleek messenger -- but my lappie is like an inch too long lol |
| 20:04.29 | Shirik_ | error CS1597: Semicolon after method or accessor block is not valid |
| 20:04.35 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: I'm fine with no longer getting people sneering at us because we don't have a bunch of 25-man gear |
| 20:04.36 | Shirik_ | These are the kinds of stupid errors that make me hate a language |
| 20:04.37 | Shirik_ | why the hell not |
| 20:04.53 | Dagmar | MoonWitch: An inch too long. Hehh |
| 20:05.17 | olafski | people sneer at you for that? |
| 20:05.19 | olafski | and you care? :P |
| 20:05.25 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: I was #2 on DPS with a vengeance last week, beaten by someone with a GS > 6000 and mine is 4990. |
| 20:05.41 | wereHamster | what's GS? |
| 20:05.56 | Dagmar | olafski: I would *like* to get into a PUG raid once in awhile, and that's a bit difficult with all the 25-man zergfests |
| 20:06.08 | olafski | dagmar: how much gs did the one below you have? ;) |
| 20:06.18 | olafski | that's much more interesting than the guy above you I'd say |
| 20:06.34 | Thunder_Child | wereHamster: you dont want to know |
| 20:06.45 | Dagmar | olafski: The other hunter I blew past by ~2000 dps and they had 500 higher GS than me if that tells you anything |
| 20:06.56 | Ackis | GS is game score, I have around 40k GS |
| 20:06.57 | wereHamster | googles |
| 20:07.11 | Thunder_Child | DPS is worthless, it's all about dmg |
| 20:07.13 | wereHamster | gear score.. ? |
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| 20:07.54 | wereHamster | let's see what gs my lvl 90 has :) |
| 20:08.10 | olafski | dagmar: yes that tells me a lot more ;) |
| 20:08.38 | olafski | ackis: did you just see the microsoft keynote? |
| 20:08.39 | Ackis | it tells me GS doesn't matter |
| 20:08.41 | Dagmar | olafski: I threw down above 6000 DPS all the way through to Rotface and Festergut man |
| 20:08.42 | Ackis | olafski: aye |
| 20:08.48 | olafski | whachathink? |
| 20:08.58 | Ackis | kinetic looks neat |
| 20:09.02 | olafski | dagmar: that on the other hand tells me nothing :P |
| 20:09.04 | Ackis | not sure if it's $150 neat |
| 20:09.05 | olafski | ackis: kinect! |
| 20:09.08 | Ackis | meh |
| 20:09.16 | olafski | that new xbox being out today was pretty big news |
| 20:09.24 | olafski | and yes kinect actually looked a lot better than I had anticipated ;) |
| 20:09.29 | Ackis | it was leaked yesterday, rumored for a while |
| 20:09.34 | Dagmar | olafski: It means that I am definitely managing the MQOSRDPS that Big Red Kitty talked about |
| 20:09.38 | Ackis | yeah it did look a lot better |
| 20:09.48 | olafski | the thing itself was leaked, not the release date right? |
| 20:09.48 | Dagmar | ...as BM. |
| 20:09.53 | Dagmar | So the kiddies can suck it. |
| 20:09.54 | Fisker | what do you mean it was rumored for a while Ackis ? |
| 20:09.56 | olafski | dagmar: okay.. I have no clue what a decent DPS number is nowadays ;) |
| 20:10.05 | Dagmar | olafski: 6000 is damn high for a 10-man |
| 20:10.08 | Ackis | Fisker: the xbox 360 slim has been talked about for a while |
| 20:10.14 | Fisker | oh |
| 20:10.18 | Ackis | olafski: yeah the release date was a suprise |
| 20:10.19 | olafski | I bet they didn't call it the slim? |
| 20:10.19 | Fisker | i thought you were talking about the natal |
| 20:10.29 | Ackis | they didn't name it tbh |
| 20:10.30 | olafski | natal wasn't just rumored ;) |
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| 20:10.38 | olafski | but yeah |
| 20:10.39 | Ackis | natal was demonstrated |
| 20:10.41 | Fisker | yeah olafski that's why i was O_o |
| 20:10.50 | Dagmar | olafski: Spesh considering that both my guild and the other giuld we went in with to make a 10 man both mainly skipped ToGC |
| 20:10.54 | Ackis | l2read Fisker |
| 20:10.55 | olafski | fisker: they named it now though and they showed it off a bit more, looked pretty ok actually |
| 20:10.57 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2010/06/vapor_trails_my_ass_thats_a_ti.php |
| 20:11.10 | olafski | dagmar: mkay :P |
| 20:11.13 | Ackis | I really like how it tracked that woman taking off her sweater |
| 20:11.39 | olafski | hehe |
| 20:11.45 | olafski | for some of the demos I still doubt if it was live |
| 20:11.53 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2010/06/youve_got_to_be_kidding_me_bul.php |
| 20:12.05 | olafski | and not scripted.. like the call of duty thing where he shot his teammate in the arm |
| 20:12.08 | Dagmar | Ackis: Just you wait... Coming next Spring, Stipper Hero! |
| 20:12.12 | Dagmar | er Stripper Hero! |
| 20:12.21 | Fisker | i'd get them mikma ! |
| 20:12.30 | Lopeppeppy | Script Kiddie Hero! |
| 20:12.30 | Dagmar | Comes with a four-piece brass pole and stand |
| 20:12.31 | Ackis | heh |
| 20:12.52 | olafski | haha |
| 20:12.54 | olafski | likely |
| 20:12.59 | olafski | but man ackis just imagine |
| 20:13.02 | Dagmar | Hey it can't be any more off-the-mark than DJ Hero |
| 20:13.10 | olafski | with achievements they might be able to get some gamers to get off their asses |
| 20:13.18 | mikma | ruhahahahaha! http://www.geekologie.com/2010/06/bad_mashups_an_avatar_stormtro.php |
| 20:13.23 | mikma | FISKERED! |
| 20:13.34 | Lopeppeppy | that looks like a Predator, actually. |
| 20:13.44 | Fisker | i like'd it |
| 20:14.18 | Ackis | olafski: no, people will find a way to use natal from their couch |
| 20:14.20 | Dagmar | I like how "breadbox" has a strikethrough |
| 20:14.29 | Dagmar | Someone ha da facepalm moment there |
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| 20:15.18 | olafski | ackis: well it certainly looks less likely to be usable from your couch than a wiimote |
| 20:15.28 | olafski | http://www.geekologie.com/2010/05/neato_superherosupervillain_ma.php <-- pretty cool too |
| 20:16.53 | olafski | ackis: and controlling the media center with your hands seems ok too.. my father could use that =) |
| 20:17.10 | Ackis | I think I'd like the voice control, but voice control sucks ass |
| 20:17.13 | Ackis | never works form e |
| 20:17.16 | Ackis | *for me |
| 20:17.17 | olafski | yep |
| 20:17.26 | olafski | and they'd have to internationalize it for it to be properly usable |
| 20:17.41 | Ackis | I'm like "Call Kim" and my car goes "Dialing #301" |
| 20:17.41 | Ackis | and I'm like NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 20:17.49 | Ackis | and my fiancee is like tehehehehehe |
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| 20:18.57 | Thunder_Child | Ackis: i think i like your fiancee already |
| 20:19.19 | Jamash | microsoft is going to waste 99% of natal's potential |
| 20:19.25 | Jamash | by not using it to make porn games |
| 20:19.37 | Lopeppeppy | I'm afraid to ask what #301 is for you... |
| 20:19.42 | Thunder_Child | someone else will Jamash |
| 20:19.51 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: it's just random numbers :( |
| 20:19.52 | Jamash | yeah but they won't run on a stock xbox |
| 20:20.01 | Lopeppeppy | how random your car is. |
| 20:20.08 | Ackis | I know |
| 20:20.10 | Ackis | car sucks |
| 20:20.58 | Jamash | I'm going to write a HAL voice control module |
| 20:21.21 | Jamash | whatever you ask it to do, it says "I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that." |
| 20:21.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: that was exactly my point, yes. :) |
| 20:21.28 | Jamash | then it murders your roommate |
| 20:21.30 | Dagmar | Jamash: I suspect once one of those companies decides they want to sell on the XBox they'll be able to win the lawsuit ordering Microsoft to allow the app to be signed |
| 20:22.19 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 20:22.20 | Fisker | my friend |
| 20:22.24 | Jamash | Dagmar: I find your faith in the forward-thinkingness of the court system refreshing if unrealistic |
| 20:22.33 | kd3 | so uh... wow |
| 20:22.38 | Fisker | so uh... kd3 |
| 20:22.46 | kd3 | got a new phishing url: www.wow-playboy.com |
| 20:22.48 | Ackis | what Fisker? |
| 20:22.56 | Fisker | my friend |
| 20:23.16 | Kraps | kd3: blizz needs to get on that asap |
| 20:23.18 | Jamash | wow playboy, hmmm |
| 20:23.27 | Fisker | i'd hit it Kraps |
| 20:23.30 | Fisker | oh |
| 20:23.31 | Lopeppeppy | Very nice, kd3. Appeals to the sex crazed gamer. |
| 20:23.49 | Kraps | wow is teh sex |
| 20:24.03 | Jamash | Gallywix's Pleasure Palace = the Playboy Mansion? |
| 20:24.09 | Fisker | Need Help? |
| 20:24.10 | Fisker | Support Site ©2009 Blizzard Entertainment, Inc. All rights reserved. |
| 20:24.13 | Fisker | i thought it was 2010 |
| 20:26.02 | Kraps | hugs his pirated Theory of a Deadman |
| 20:26.09 | Kraps | what what |
| 20:26.15 | Kraps | not me |
| 20:26.23 | Kraps | twas Fisker |
| 20:26.45 | Jamash | toad hugger |
| 20:28.25 | Kraps | they're me favorite bad |
| 20:28.30 | Kraps | band* |
| 20:28.35 | Kraps | fuuuuuu |
| 20:30.32 | Kraps | this keyboard has increased misstypes by about 273% |
| 20:31.19 | Fisker | slaps Kraps around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:32.12 | cogwheel | Shirik_: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/75538/hidden-features-of-c/78840#78840 |
| 20:32.58 | Shirik_ | what |
| 20:33.03 | Shirik_ | ternary operator can produce an lvalue? |
| 20:33.10 | cogwheel | indeed |
| 20:33.28 | cogwheel | the uri made me lol though |
| 20:33.51 | NightHawkTheSane | thats crazy |
| 20:34.31 | Fisker | i love people |
| 20:35.00 | Fisker | "EVERY TIME i make a gm Ticket I on frostwhisper i wait SERVAL DAYS" |
| 20:35.10 | Fisker | It seems to me on further research that, aside from the petition you submitted earlier today from this account, the only other ticket youâve sent in within the past 2 years or so was the one reporting your account compromised last month. |
| 20:35.14 | Fisker | DERP DERP |
| 20:35.16 | Fisker | HURRDURR |
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| 20:40.55 | cogwheel | Shirik_: http://www.xs4all.nl/~weegen/eelis/analogliterals.xhtml |
| 20:45.25 | Ackis | http://ewanm.posterous.com/vuvuzela-usage-instructions |
| 20:46.14 | alestane | I'm not sure it's possible to read the word "vuvzela" without thinking it's something dirty. |
| 20:46.23 | cogwheel | ^ |
| 20:46.43 | Jamash | ^^ |
| 20:47.20 | Thunder_Child | i am |
| 20:47.36 | Fisker | hey Thunder_Child |
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| 20:47.48 | Thunder_Child | hey Fisker |
| 20:48.05 | Fisker | hey |
| 20:48.10 | Thunder_Child | ho |
| 20:48.15 | Jamash | cogwheel: that link is final, conclusive proof that C++ is pathological |
| 20:48.36 | cogwheel | no. |
| 20:49.05 | cogwheel | it's conclusive proof of it's flexibility imo |
| 20:49.18 | cogwheel | s/'s f/s f/ |
| 20:49.28 | Jamash | flexible like plastic man |
| 20:49.28 | cogwheel | also, http://cogwheel.info/idop/ |
| 20:49.30 | cogwheel | :> |
| 20:51.35 | Fisker | hey cogwheel |
| 20:54.36 | cogwheel | Jamash: i'd rather have my language obey my wishes than the other way around |
| 20:54.50 | Jamash | yes, exactly |
| 20:55.22 | alestane | ":>" looks like a manic Joker-style grin. |
| 20:56.04 | cogwheel | depending on the font ;) |
| 20:56.45 | Jamash | C++ "obeys your wishes" in the manner of the monkey's paw |
| 20:56.46 | cogwheel | um no... |
| 20:56.47 | cogwheel | that many pepole don't understand how to express their wishes in C++ is an entirely different issue |
| 20:57.55 | cogwheel | (the fact that...) |
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| 20:59.37 | Ackis | while(1) { fork(); } |
| 20:59.39 | Ackis | best |
| 20:59.40 | Ackis | code |
| 20:59.41 | Ackis | evar |
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| 21:00.04 | EthanCentaurai | what does it do? |
| 21:00.10 | AbsolutRayne | Afternoon :) |
| 21:00.16 | EthanCentaurai | Morning :) |
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| 21:00.47 | Maldivia | Ackis: hmm, the code form of survival instinct? :) |
| 21:00.51 | Ackis | EthanCentaurai: run it on a system of your own to test it out |
| 21:00.53 | cogwheel | !g fork bomb |
| 21:00.54 | batbot | cogwheel: Fork bomb - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fork_bomb> |
| 21:01.39 | AbsolutRayne | waits for the EA presentation at E3 to start |
| 21:01.52 | Ackis | oh cogwheel way to ruin my fun :( |
| 21:02.16 | Dagmar | Just sing it... o/~ While one fork... while one fork... See... howw.... ittt... ru-u-n-n-n-nssssszzz... o/~ |
| 21:02.43 | Dagmar | (To the tune of Three Blind Mice, of course) |
| 21:02.44 | EthanCentaurai | hehe |
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| 21:03.08 | EthanCentaurai | does C++ even work on a Mac? |
| 21:03.14 | cogwheel | O.o |
| 21:03.45 | Maldivia | you have to use maC++ :P |
| 21:04.18 | Ackis | I have corrupted the goodness of Star Wars. |
| 21:04.24 | cogwheel | i'm having trouble coming up with an analogy for that question... |
| 21:04.32 | Dagmar | Maldivia: =D |
| 21:04.33 | eidolarr | what is the terminology for fontstrings and textures, what are they called |
| 21:04.35 | Ackis | My Star Wars magnets are now holding up... work related documents :'( |
| 21:04.42 | alestane | LayeredRegions. |
| 21:05.03 | cogwheel | eidolarr: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets_hierarchy |
| 21:05.10 | Dashkal | ooo, beta Real Soon Now.: http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/25399601782/blizz-official-email/ |
| 21:05.26 | eidolarr | yeah looking at it now cogwheel |
| 21:05.29 | Dashkal | (Just reading into a blue post, feel free to ignore it) |
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| 21:05.48 | cogwheel | Dashkal: note the "Soon" is capitalized... |
| 21:05.56 | sylvanaar_atwork | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3036300/equivalent-of-c-as-command-in-c/ |
| 21:05.57 | Dagmar | Someone needs to get in there and post that the bluetext looks 'shopped, ASAP. |
| 21:06.09 | cogwheel | http://www.wowwiki.com/Soon |
| 21:06.48 | sylvanaar_atwork | what is the difference between a cast and a type conversion? |
| 21:06.50 | Dashkal | cogwheel: Of course it is. I'm reading into the "to my knowledge" |
| 21:07.00 | eidolarr | a cast just reads the same data as another type |
| 21:07.04 | Dashkal | and so I disclaimed |
| 21:07.05 | eidolarr | a type conversion does some logical conversion |
| 21:07.16 | eidolarr | like (int) 5.7 is very different from (int) ((void *) 5.7) |
| 21:07.28 | eidolarr | assuming 32 bit there |
| 21:07.32 | eidolarr | and i guess 5.7f |
| 21:07.43 | Dagmar | Well, more importantly if you convert a float to an int with a cast, you get crazy numbers. |
| 21:08.09 | eidolarr | it truncates it |
| 21:08.12 | eidolarr | oh woops |
| 21:08.16 | eidolarr | yeah my b |
| 21:08.41 | eidolarr | it's confusing because it's the same syntax, in C at least |
| 21:08.56 | eidolarr | one of the language's weaknesses imo |
| 21:09.13 | cogwheel | cast says "stop thinking about this thing as a X and think about it as a Y". conversion says "give me a new Y from the given X" |
| 21:09.48 | sylvanaar_atwork | in both cases 5.7 is treated as an int |
| 21:10.14 | eidolarr | concrete example |
| 21:10.26 | eidolarr | if 1101 is 5.7 in float and 13 in int |
| 21:10.31 | eidolarr | then (int) 5.7 would be 5 |
| 21:10.40 | eidolarr | (int) ((void *) 5.7) would be 13 |
| 21:11.04 | eidolarr | obviously that is not what 1101 is, but you get the idea |
| 21:11.24 | Dagmar | Don't worry, those of us who have used EMMMS format know how crazy doing that is |
| 21:12.28 | eidolarr | it has its uses |
| 21:12.37 | Maldivia | dagmar: but shifting floating point numbers is powerful :P |
| 21:13.03 | alestane | They're distinguished in C++ by approaching them through the static_cast and reinterpret_cast keywords. |
| 21:13.09 | eidolarr | I thought it wasn't syntactically valid |
| 21:13.45 | Amarande | Heh, remember the olden days of the Commodore, where floats were stored in of all things *six* byte groups? |
| 21:13.46 | Dagmar | Maldivia: Yeah but it's still not immediately obvious that such a convoluted thing would be necessary until/unless you've had to do that crap in assembly |
| 21:14.01 | Amarande | Good ol' FAC1 |
| 21:14.10 | Dagmar | Amarande: That's where I know exponent-mantissa-mantissa-mantissa-sign format from |
| 21:14.32 | sylvanaar_atwork | is there a definition of cast in the c++ spec, |
| 21:14.36 | sylvanaar_atwork | The result of the expression reinterpret_cast<T>(v) is the result of converting the expression v to type T. |
| 21:14.47 | sylvanaar_atwork | The result of the expression static_cast<T>(v) is the result of converting the expression v to type T. |
| 21:14.57 | eidolarr | lol |
| 21:14.59 | sylvanaar_atwork | from the spec |
| 21:15.08 | eidolarr | then i guess not |
| 21:15.14 | sylvanaar_atwork | 5.2.9, 5.2.10 |
| 21:15.34 | alestane | reinterpret_cast takes the bit representation of the expression result and tells the compiler to treat it as a different type. |
| 21:16.30 | sylvanaar_atwork | yeah, but is that the tecnical definitiion of "cast" |
| 21:16.48 | sylvanaar_atwork | or are "cast" and "convert" just interchangable terms |
| 21:18.09 | eidolarr | conventional wisdom is that cast doesn't change bits but people use it wrong all the time |
| 21:18.19 | sylvanaar_atwork | also The mapping performed by reinterpret_cast is implementation-defined. [Note: it might, or might not, produce a representation different from the original value. ] |
| 21:18.34 | sylvanaar_atwork | again from the spec - i am so confused |
| 21:19.04 | eidolarr | that means reinterpret_cast can change the bits |
| 21:19.05 | Amarande | I can't remember the last time I've used cast except to avert warnings when bringing char or int16 numbers into an int16 or int32 space, though |
| 21:19.08 | alestane | I would expect that most programmers would expect "cast" to mean a reinterpret cast when you're talking about disparate types, such as a void* stored in a space defined as an int, and to mean a static cast when you're talking about conceptually similar types, such as int and float. |
| 21:19.09 | sylvanaar_atwork | eidolarr: yeah |
| 21:19.13 | Dagmar | syvlanaar: Thnk of it like what happens when you create something using one struct, and hten access it using the wrong one |
| 21:19.31 | Amarande | because if you have, say, int a; char b = 2; a = 2 |
| 21:19.35 | eidolarr | he understands how it works, he's trying to understand the technical difference |
| 21:19.41 | Amarande | I seem to remember the C compiler whines that you're not casting |
| 21:19.42 | eidolarr | in terminology |
| 21:19.51 | eidolarr | it depends on the flags =) |
| 21:19.53 | Amarande | er wait, a = b |
| 21:20.01 | sylvanaar_atwork | i have an intuative understanding of cast and convert - i am looking for the formal meanings if there are any |
| 21:20.07 | alestane | And Stroustrup generally seems to dislike casting in the first place. It's a "sign of design failure." |
| 21:20.24 | Amarande | alestane: okay, so it's a sign of design failure to try to save bytes |
| 21:20.25 | wereHamster | Amarande: a = b is fine, but b = a is not (since the type of b is smaller than a, so you might lose bits) |
| 21:20.30 | Dagmar | alestane: I can agree with that |
| 21:20.30 | alestane | (Not a direct quote.) |
| 21:20.47 | Amarande | and if you ever want to move a variable into a different sized integer space, even if you've done range checking, you should have used four bytes for everything to start with? |
| 21:20.55 | Amarande | this is how data bloat sets in |
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| 21:21.03 | Dagmar | If the types aren't different enough to make them incompatible then you've probably defined something poorly or have more/fewer types defined than you need |
| 21:23.23 | alestane | At the very least they should be type characteristics or something: number`32, number`64, number$integral`8, or whatever syntax is appropriate. |
| 21:23.55 | Dagmar | OOooo that would get messy |
| 21:23.56 | alestane | Own up that they're similar value types and you're specifying representations for performance reasons. |
| 21:23.58 | Amarande | I also tend not to make much use of floating point variables |
| 21:24.10 | Amarande | I'm not really sure what floating point variables are particularly good for in game coding, anyways :S |
| 21:24.15 | alestane | Yeah, Dagmar, it's ugly. |
| 21:24.20 | Dagmar | You're not really supposed to think about how many bytes your INT takes up, just that it's got a max and a min |
| 21:24.25 | Amarande | of course, you're talking to someone interested in coding oldstyle 2D turnbased RPGs |
| 21:24.36 | alestane | Any kind of positioning , rendering or physics, Amarande? |
| 21:24.46 | Dagmar | That's why there's all those type conversions and checks because a different host CPU may take them in different byte orders hint hint |
| 21:25.02 | Dagmar | A long int is not always the same thing everywhere. |
| 21:25.08 | Amarande | Dagmar: depends, if you've specced out a file format, you might need to do number converting in order to fit stuff into the defined format |
| 21:25.09 | Dagmar | ...but afaik they have the same ranges |
| 21:25.22 | Amarande | hence why you should say "int32" and not "long int" |
| 21:25.33 | Amarande | I'm pretty sure int32 is standard everywhere, except perhaps for endianness |
| 21:25.46 | Dagmar | That's where you get burned. |
| 21:25.55 | Amarande | and endianness seems to be becoming a less and less significant thing, with the ever increasing standardization to x86 |
| 21:26.01 | Amarande | it used to be a big concern with PC/Mac compatibility |
| 21:26.03 | alestane | Well, yes...68000 (and PowerPC?) were big-endian, Intel is little-endian. |
| 21:26.05 | Amarande | but now Macs use x86 |
| 21:26.11 | Dagmar | Yeah but we've still got all these old systems running around and PA-RISC chips and all that |
| 21:26.30 | wereHamster | aren't arm big endian? |
| 21:26.44 | wereHamster | and arm is pretty significant in the embedded market |
| 21:26.49 | NightHawkTheSane | doesn't the ps3 run on a big-endian chip? cell or somethingorother? |
| 21:26.58 | MoonWitch | stupid question |
| 21:27.01 | wereHamster | cell is basically powerpc |
| 21:27.06 | NightHawkTheSane | wereHamster: yeah, more or less |
| 21:27.14 | MoonWitch | how do I select (by regexp) what is between " " (not lua" |
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| 21:27.22 | eidolarr | it's sort of moot since truncating takes the logical least significant bits |
| 21:27.23 | Dagmar | This is why you have to run your normally perfectly boring ints through those htons calls before going after a socket |
| 21:27.24 | Amarande | I can't remember if I've ever used a big endian chip |
| 21:27.25 | eidolarr | not the mechanical ones |
| 21:27.31 | NightHawkTheSane | MoonWitch: er, the content between two spaces, you mean? |
| 21:27.32 | Amarande | x86's are always little endian |
| 21:27.35 | Amarande | and I'm pretty sure Commodore was, too |
| 21:27.38 | NightHawkTheSane | MoonWitch: not sure what you're asking |
| 21:27.42 | Amarande | yeah, JSR $FFD2 = 20, D2, FF |
| 21:27.43 | MoonWitch | no between two quotation marks |
| 21:27.45 | Amarande | that would be little endian right? |
| 21:27.47 | NightHawkTheSane | oh |
| 21:27.48 | Dagmar | PRINT! |
| 21:27.59 | NightHawkTheSane | "(.*)" |
| 21:28.05 | Dagmar | C=64 was deifnitely LSB, MSB |
| 21:28.15 | NightHawkTheSane | alternately, "(.*$)" i think is for a non-greedy match |
| 21:28.22 | Dagmar | Sooo many hours blown just trying to figure out what the undocumented ops did |
| 21:28.24 | Maldivia | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:28.32 | NightHawkTheSane | er, yeah, what Maldivia said |
| 21:28.34 | NightHawkTheSane | is non-greedy |
| 21:28.45 | NightHawkTheSane | 's regex-fu is rusty |
| 21:28.55 | MoonWitch | I just fail to understand it |
| 21:29.02 | Amarande | Dagmar: I'm pretty sure the quasi-opcodes were beneficial bugs, not intended undocumented opcodes :) |
| 21:29.11 | Dagmar | Amarande: I know now that one of the undocumented operations apparently may have been a joke... it derefernces what's at near-as-can-be NULL |
| 21:29.15 | NightHawkTheSane | MoonWitch: it's a class unto itself, but well worth taking the time to undertand. |
| 21:29.29 | Amarande | they just happen to work ... unlike say the ones ending in 2, which just give a hard CPU lock |
| 21:29.46 | Dagmar | Whatever was in memory spots 0 and 1 would be treated as an address and that value copied into X |
| 21:29.52 | MoonWitch | NightHawkTheSane: I know, I just don't grasp it |
| 21:30.14 | MoonWitch | "(.*?)" I don't even know what this reads lol other then 2 weird breasts? |
| 21:30.15 | Amarande | Dagmar: too bad you couldn't use memory spots 0 and 1 |
| 21:30.22 | Amarande | since those were CPU registers on 6502 :) |
| 21:30.24 | Dagmar | Exactly |
| 21:30.50 | Amarande | remember POKE 1,53 and wondering why your computer stopped working after that? :) |
| 21:31.11 | Dagmar | Amarande: The one outstanding bit of weird mystery I have left from those days is that I never did find out WTF was going on in the high bits of color memory. |
| 21:31.22 | zenzelezz | do alliance players get anything from killing NPCs at Taunka'le Villlage, besides annoying hordes trying to quest? |
| 21:31.38 | Maldivia | MoonWitch: " <-- find a quote ( <-- start a group . <-- any char * <-- 0 or more times ? <-- non greedy ) <-- end group <--- " find a quote, all in all meaning: find a quote and group up all after that until the first quote you find |
| 21:31.43 | Amarande | Dagmar: I'm pretty sure those bits weren't connected to any sort of memory circuit at all |
| 21:31.57 | Amarande | i.e., the color RAM was made of 4-bit units to begin with |
| 21:32.03 | foxlit | zenzelezz: PvHE is generally pointless. |
| 21:32.05 | Dagmar | Amarande: That would explain it, although it was really odd that just this *one* bank only seemed to have four bits to it. |
| 21:32.07 | foxlit | So no. |
| 21:32.29 | Amarande | PvHE? |
| 21:32.37 | Dagmar | I was doing some graphics editor and tried to be efficient and bit shift up values into that high nibble as a tmeporary storage space, and what I got back out was always crazy garbage |
| 21:33.54 | NightHawkTheSane | MoonWitch: what Maldivia said. there's some rather good guides & tutorials you can find by googling around, too. |
| 21:34.05 | sylvanaar_atwork | we are talking 6502 now lol |
| 21:34.21 | sylvanaar_atwork | i miss my 1Mhz speed demon |
| 21:34.33 | Amarande | and remember when ASL was just an opcode? :) |
| 21:34.42 | Dagmar | I can remember laughing at IBMers gloating about their massive 4Mhz speeds |
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| 21:35.09 | sylvanaar_atwork | X,Y and A - the only registers you ever needed |
| 21:35.17 | Dagmar | ....and yet their programs ran considerably slower because each instruction took like 6-8 clockcycles, when the C=64 were mostly 1- and 2-cycle deals with one 5-cycle one |
| 21:35.54 | eidolarr | that still happens now |
| 21:35.56 | eidolarr | intel v amd |
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| 21:36.20 | Dagmar | I did a lot of raster driving timesharing stuff, so I kinda had to know from memory how long each instruction took |
| 21:36.47 | Lunessa | Next time someone in the Web Dev office asks for a favor I'm going to tell them to stuff their laptops into an orifice that isn't really designed for intake. |
| 21:36.49 | Dagmar | If you could be certain of using only and exactly 83 clockcycles you could stay in syunc with the scan gun |
| 21:36.49 | Amarande | Dagmar: yeah, I think 7 was max ... and that was for BRK, which was basically never used |
| 21:37.12 | Dagmar | If you didn't have that specificity, you'd blow 1/2-1/3 of your time just setting up to resync to the raster gun |
| 21:37.12 | eidolarr | Lunessa: that seems pretty unlikely |
| 21:37.25 | Amarande | yeah commodore code was as much poem as writing |
| 21:37.32 | Dagmar | I loved it for that. |
| 21:37.36 | Lunessa | I've wasted most of a day on this stupid "favor" |
| 21:37.42 | Amarande | but yeah, nobody really ever used BRK |
| 21:37.46 | Dagmar | ...although that should be considered a sign of being extremely OCD. |
| 21:37.51 | Amarande | most programs generally ended in RTS, instead |
| 21:38.03 | sylvanaar_atwork | what favor Lunessa |
| 21:38.20 | Amarande | because, generally you ran them from BASIC, and SYS actually was a JSR |
| 21:38.50 | Dagmar | Really, really, really was just a JSR |
| 21:39.06 | Kalroth_ | Dagmar: I wonder how OCD the Booze Design coders are: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFdjWSaDlIo + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b4uGv-9xpw :) |
| 21:40.29 | Dagmar | Kalroth: It's pretty much a given that if you did raster-driven coding you were OCD |
| 21:40.52 | Kalroth_ | oh in that way, well yeah :p |
| 21:40.55 | Amarande | Dagmar: not to mention then your programs wouldn't run in PAL countries :) |
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| 21:41.06 | Amarande | Heya Peppy :) |
| 21:41.08 | Dagmar | Oh yeah they would, you just had to retune them |
| 21:41.17 | Amarande | although I guess that's what NOPs were for |
| 21:41.23 | Lopeppeppy | re-hello, Amarande! |
| 21:41.26 | Dagmar | There was a slight overhead incurred by having to do a quick jump and some nops to pad out the difference |
| 21:41.27 | alestane | The peppy is back! That was quick. |
| 21:41.42 | Lopeppeppy | just going home from work, Alestane |
| 21:41.46 | Dagmar | ...plus the number of scan lines were different, so if you had plans for those lower few, you needed backup plans |
| 21:42.02 | alestane | Don't usually see you back on most Monday evenings. |
| 21:43.12 | Amarande | PAL had more than NTSC, though |
| 21:43.52 | Kalroth_ | Yeah, PAL was superior! |
| 21:44.09 | Amarande | ok, I've definitely played too much Wild Arms, too |
| 21:44.14 | Amarande | someone named their character "Leethal" |
| 21:44.18 | Dagmar | Kalroth: Ermm.. no |
| 21:44.26 | Amarande | and the first thing I think of, is not 'lethal', but "Leehalt", from Wild Arms 3 |
| 21:44.43 | Kalroth_ | Dagmar: Of course it was |
| 21:47.44 | Lopeppeppy | regular date night canceled, I get to be home, yay me. |
| 21:49.05 | alestane | huggles Peppy. No lonely evening! |
| 21:49.36 | Lopeppeppy | more like a day when I can eat my own food at my own pace and not poison myself |
| 21:49.38 | Amarande | aww, but you have your wowi-lounge buddies |
| 21:50.10 | Amarande | dates are only worth it if there's sex, anyway ... right? :) |
| 21:53.03 | Lopeppeppy | Nah... I'd take an ice cream cone over sex right about now. |
| 21:53.43 | Thunder_Child | you got it bad |
| 21:54.14 | eidolarr | cogwheel: on this page http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets_hierarchy region is outlined in blue, suggesting it's not abstract |
| 21:54.38 | eidolarr | what's the deal with that |
| 21:54.49 | cogwheel | ask jnwhiteh |
| 21:54.52 | cogwheel | :P |
| 21:55.01 | eidolarr | region is abstract right? |
| 21:55.48 | alestane | I don't think you can instantiate a Region, no. |
| 21:56.09 | eidolarr | i must be misreading the graphic then |
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| 22:06.27 | eidolarr | who else uses emacs for Lua? is there a lua-mode that sucks less than the readily available one? |
| 22:07.30 | Antiarc | http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/1s-and-0s.aspx |
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| 22:07.44 | caith | greetings |
| 22:08.56 | Lopeppeppy | oh hai there. |
| 22:09.00 | eidolarr | bahaha |
| 22:09.18 | eidolarr | for (i=1; ...) for (ii=1, ...) for(iii=1, ...) |
| 22:09.20 | eidolarr | that is excellent |
| 22:09.31 | eidolarr | how have i not thought of that |
| 22:09.44 | eidolarr | it sure beats i j k |
| 22:10.26 | eidolarr | these are some of the most bizarre regex i've ever seen |
| 22:10.39 | Amarande | why is it so standard to name variables i, j, k, etc. anyway :S |
| 22:10.43 | eidolarr | [1]{1}[0-1] |
| 22:10.51 | eidolarr | because that's how it works in math |
| 22:11.11 | eidolarr | ohhh man |
| 22:11.13 | eidolarr | [1]{1} |
| 22:11.15 | eidolarr | that is so classy |
| 22:11.29 | Amarande | I thought in math you usually started with a |
| 22:11.37 | eidolarr | not for iterating |
| 22:11.37 | Amarande | and i, in particular, was reserved for (-1)^(0.5) |
| 22:11.45 | eidolarr | think of summations |
| 22:11.47 | eidolarr | or matrix operations |
| 22:13.42 | eidolarr | it's almost a good idea, maybe i jj kkk |
| 22:13.56 | caith | does anyone know how to change "local fontPath = GameFontNormalSmall:GetFont()" to a custom font? =/ |
| 22:14.36 | eidolarr | you mean change GameFontNormalSmall ? |
| 22:14.54 | caith | yeah, i tried something like local fontPath = "Interface\\AddOns\\SharedMediaAdditionalFonts\\fonts\\test.ttf" |
| 22:15.07 | eidolarr | well once you "get" it you just have a local copy |
| 22:15.09 | caith | but he still uses normal game font |
| 22:15.18 | eidolarr | like if you say |
| 22:15.27 | eidolarr | local x = 5; local y = x; y = y + 1; print(x) |
| 22:15.30 | eidolarr | you get 5 |
| 22:15.47 | eidolarr | just because you change your local copy doesn't change the value GameFontNormalSmall |
| 22:16.21 | eidolarr | so here's what you do, go here: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets |
| 22:16.44 | caith | okay i'll try - thanks for the response |
| 22:17.02 | caith | grabbing his awesome programming skills |
| 22:17.04 | eidolarr | grepping aruond in the code, i see it's probably an instance of Font |
| 22:17.20 | eidolarr | so try uhh |
| 22:17.25 | eidolarr | :SetFont |
| 22:17.30 | eidolarr | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/FontInstance/SetFont |
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| 22:22.57 | caith | okay i've still no clue ^^ |
| 22:23.22 | eidolarr | did you try what i said? |
| 22:23.22 | caith | good night |
| 22:23.25 | caith | no |
| 22:23.35 | eidolarr | try GameFontNormalSmall:SetFont(blah, blah,b lah) |
| 22:23.36 | caith | because I have no programming skills at all. |
| 22:23.40 | eidolarr | where the blah's are the arguments listed there |
| 22:24.16 | Kraps | http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/129194395862839590.jpg |
| 22:24.26 | eidolarr | try this: |
| 22:24.50 | eidolarr | GameFontNormalSmall:SetFont("Fonts\\skurri.ttf", 12, "OUTLINE") |
| 22:25.16 | eidolarr | then if that works, substitute your own font and outline settings |
| 22:25.49 | eidolarr | you can test ingame with /script |
| 22:26.07 | eidolarr | yeah it seems to work |
| 22:26.13 | caith | i test ingame with /rl , type "/gladius test" and hope it works :D |
| 22:26.26 | eidolarr | that works too |
| 22:28.28 | eidolarr | did you get it working? |
| 22:29.03 | caith | nope. doesnt seem to work in gladius |
| 22:29.42 | eidolarr | are you sure gladius is using that font object? |
| 22:29.58 | eidolarr | you can try using /framestack to find out the name of the object |
| 22:29.59 | caith | ofc i'm not. :( |
| 22:30.09 | eidolarr | dunno if it works on fonts |
| 22:30.21 | Kraps | "i could care less" NO NO YOU COULDNT |
| 22:31.21 | caith | didnt new framestack, nice |
| 22:31.41 | caith | was using /print GetMouseFocus():GetName() all the time! |
| 22:32.02 | eidolarr | yeah dunno when they added it but it's nice |
| 22:33.01 | caith | seems like it doesnt work on fonts |
| 22:35.44 | eidolarr | well |
| 22:35.46 | eidolarr | you can try this |
| 22:35.55 | eidolarr | mouseover the font, and whatever is on top, say it's BananaFrame |
| 22:36.09 | eidolarr | do /dump BananaFrame:GetRegions() |
| 22:36.16 | eidolarr | should print out the fonts and textures |
| 22:36.32 | eidolarr | unless it's not the top level frame |
| 22:36.38 | jnwhiteh | you cannot instantiate a Region |
| 22:36.43 | jnwhiteh | but it is not a 'Pseudo-type' |
| 22:36.45 | jnwhiteh | they exist in game |
| 22:36.51 | jnwhiteh | and you can find instances of them |
| 22:36.56 | eidolarr | like what? |
| 22:36.57 | jnwhiteh | this is why its blue, not grey. |
| 22:37.06 | jnwhiteh | TitleRegions |
| 22:37.13 | jnwhiteh | can be included on frames |
| 22:37.15 | jnwhiteh | and they are 'Regions' |
| 22:37.18 | jnwhiteh | and only 'Regions'. |
| 22:37.20 | jnwhiteh | as returned by the API |
| 22:37.29 | jnwhiteh | see http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Frame/CreateTitleRegion |
| 22:37.30 | eidolarr | huh, weird |
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| 22:37.44 | jnwhiteh | not terribly weird. |
| 22:37.46 | jnwhiteh | I'm off to bed. |
| 22:37.49 | cogwheel | nn |
| 22:38.12 | jnwhiteh | grey are 'pseudo-types' that we have included for purely organisational purposes. |
| 22:38.18 | jnwhiteh | night |
| 22:38.22 | caith | night |
| 22:39.18 | Fisker | jnwhiteh |
| 22:39.19 | Kraps | http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/129042604080443594.jpg |
| 22:40.19 | Fisker | hey Kraps |
| 22:40.49 | Kraps | hey Fisker |
| 22:40.58 | Fisker | hey Kraps |
| 22:41.03 | Kraps | hey Fisker |
| 22:41.37 | Fisker | hey Kraps |
| 22:42.30 | Kraps | hey Fisker |
| 22:42.44 | Fisker | hey Kraps |
| 22:43.06 | Kraps | hey Fisker |
| 22:44.25 | Fisker | this is a game of irc chicken |
| 22:44.28 | Fisker | hey Kraps |
| 22:44.32 | Lopeppeppy | play it more quietly. |
| 22:44.32 | Kraps | hey Fisker |
| 22:44.48 | Fisker | it's very quiet Lopeppeppy |
| 22:44.51 | Fisker | since it's text |
| 22:44.54 | Kraps | ^ |
| 22:44.55 | Fisker | hey Kraps |
| 22:44.59 | Kraps | hey Fisker |
| 22:45.01 | miica | DKP_LOCK sounds stupid give me better value name :( |
| 22:45.09 | Fisker | i might be afraid |
| 22:46.36 | Kraps | are you? |
| 22:47.47 | TC-Away | hey Kraps hey Fisker GDIAF |
| 22:48.35 | Fisker | hey Thunder_Child |
| 22:48.49 | Kraps | hey Thunder_Child |
| 22:48.50 | Kraps | http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/129064559132498659.jpg |
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| 22:53.21 | Corrodias2 | hah @ image |
| 22:54.29 | Kraps | Shirik_: http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/129075162217572105.jpg |
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| 23:07.36 | Kraps | http://notalwaysright.com/twilight-vs-holy-light/5804 |
| 23:08.41 | Kraps | http://notalwaysright.com/not-getting-the-picture/5791 |
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| 23:32.28 | Arrowmaster | bah, was trying to do halo 3 vidmaster annual and lost our 4th guy |
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| 23:48.08 | durcyn | holy shit. open up newsweek's site and type in the konami code. ( up up down down left right left right b a enter in case you're bad ) |
| 23:48.23 | Fisker | why would we? |
| 23:48.30 | durcyn | because something happens, man. |
| 23:48.49 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 23:51.06 | Zyn | pic or it didnt happen |
| 23:51.18 | Lopeppeppy | sorry, blocked by NoScript, can't see it. :) |
| 23:52.54 | alestane | Any particular box, or just while the page is up? |
| 23:53.32 | durcyn | nah, no particular focus |
| 23:54.34 | Cide | neat |
| 23:55.02 | Zyn | good lord |
| 23:55.15 | Zyn | grabs all the canned food and hides in the basement, with an axe |
| 23:57.17 | NightHawkTheSane | is done with the latest sprint at work. now I go home and drink heavily./ |
| 23:58.39 | Fisker | farted |
