| 00:02.59 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: you have an authenticator? |
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| 00:04.21 | Kraps | no |
| 00:06.31 | Fisker | Thunder_Child: you have an authenticator? |
| 00:06.44 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: yes |
| 00:08.35 | Fisker | no Thunder_Child |
| 00:12.50 | cogwheel | penis |
| 00:12.54 | cogwheel | i mean hi fisker |
| 00:15.02 | Fisker | hey cockwheel |
| 00:15.17 | Fisker | whatcha doing? |
| 00:15.37 | cogwheel | i has home nao |
| 00:16.05 | cogwheel | i eated a donut |
| 00:16.59 | Fisker | ated* |
| 00:17.03 | Fisker | btw cogwheel |
| 00:17.12 | Fisker | i may like you |
| 00:17.54 | cogwheel | stupid teeth ... couldn't tell the difference between beef jerky and human tongue |
| 00:18.33 | Fisker | good night cogwheel |
| 00:18.42 | Fisker | figpucker |
| 00:19.02 | Lunessa | donut, I wants one. Thanks cog. |
| 00:19.31 | cogwheel | it's not a "good" one, if it makes you feel better... just a powdered donette |
| 00:20.15 | Lunessa | the kind which have been on the shelf of your local ston and rob for about 12 years? |
| 00:20.49 | cogwheel | actually this is the freshest bag i've had in a while... must've just missed the delivery guy |
| 00:21.05 | Lunessa | has a hungry. |
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| 00:29.38 | Thunder_Child | cogwheel: no more talk about sweets |
| 00:35.23 | cogwheel | mmmm naan |
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| 00:36.34 | Amarande | o.0, what's this |
| 00:36.38 | Amarande | is cata Real Soon Now? |
| 00:36.47 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 00:36.57 | Amarande | T_C: I noticed "the upcoming expansion" referred to in the Tuesday maintenance announcement |
| 00:37.05 | Amarande | (as the reason that some realms are getting extended maint) |
| 00:37.44 | cogwheel | hasn't even entered beta yet (stfu Fisker ) |
| 00:38.05 | Fisker | dwarf and troll warlocks btw |
| 00:38.05 | Lunessa | Amarande: it just means some hardware upgrades are being done for realms. Cata server will need to be beefy boxes. |
| 00:38.05 | Thunder_Child | Amarande: right, hardware changes |
| 00:38.05 | Fisker | yes it has cogwheel |
| 00:38.10 | cogwheel | see "(stfu Fisker )" |
| 00:38.35 | Amarande | wow |
| 00:38.45 | Amarande | I would have thought Tichondrius would have had a beefy box already |
| 00:38.48 | Amarande | given its popularity |
| 00:38.58 | Lunessa | cogwheel: Isn't the logic like this if Fisker, then "STFU Fisker" - always? |
| 00:39.21 | Lunessa | Popularity is relative. |
| 00:39.36 | Amarande | Lunessa: by "popularity" I mean "it has queues on a regular basis" |
| 00:39.48 | Lunessa | Sucks to play there then. |
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| 00:39.58 | Amarande | and "it's so bursting at the seams that people who newly roll or transfer there get treated unwelcomely" |
| 00:40.04 | cogwheel | if i were them i'd make all the realms configured identically... |
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| 00:41.01 | cogwheel | seems like it would be a nightmare to try to micromanage hardware like that just to alleviate population problems on specific realms |
| 00:41.49 | Lunessa | cogwheel: I expect that older boxes are the ones being upgraded or stuff that's going out of warranty - that sort of thing. |
| 00:42.28 | cogwheel | *nod* |
| 00:44.53 | Lunessa | "Macros can't branch spell choices based on buffs, debuffs, procs, mana/rage/energy/runes, health pvp status, Pamela Anderson's cup-size, etc. " - Me |
| 00:45.31 | Legorol | Lunessa: actually i believe they can branch based on PA's cup, since it's a constant |
| 00:45.36 | Legorol | you can always branch based on a constant |
| 00:45.49 | Lunessa | Legorol: There's no secure condition for it. |
| 00:46.05 | Amarande | besides, pam's aren't that big anyway |
| 00:46.07 | Legorol | sure there is, it's implicitly implied without having to type it out |
| 00:46.08 | Amarande | she's what, a C or D? |
| 00:46.18 | theorbtwo | Legorol: It's constant until she gets surgery again, anyway. |
| 00:46.18 | Legorol | it's a default assumed conditional that always evaluates to true |
| 00:46.23 | Lunessa | Amarande: bigger |
| 00:46.29 | Legorol | right theorbtwo, at which point blizz releases a patch |
| 00:47.11 | Amarande | Lunessa: she had another one? |
| 00:47.25 | Amarande | I remember reading an interview where she said she was "still a C, just fuller" or such |
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| 00:47.31 | Lunessa | LOL |
| 00:47.39 | Amarande | also |
| 00:47.40 | Amarande | let's remember |
| 00:47.43 | Amarande | isn't sober right now |
| 00:48.20 | Lunessa | http://images.starpulse.com/Photos/Previews/Pamela-Anderson-ae01.jpg - that's NOT a C or D. We're into double-letters here. |
| 00:48.44 | Cairenn | that is SO not a C or D |
| 00:48.59 | Cairenn | is a D and I don't have a rack like that :p |
| 00:49.00 | Tuller | that was a random thing to log onto |
| 00:49.09 | Cairenn | I've been on all day |
| 00:49.09 | Amarande | lol |
| 00:49.22 | Lunessa | Boobies are never exactly /random/ around here |
| 00:49.24 | Amarande | Cairenn, you really should join us at Terre d'Ange btw ... :) |
| 00:49.24 | Shadowed | That was a random thing to read |
| 00:49.35 | Shadowed | All I saw was Cairenn's first message and was like |
| 00:49.36 | Shadowed | "what |
| 00:51.02 | Lunessa | What is this? How did that get in here? I don't even.. |
| 00:51.21 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 00:51.33 | Cairenn | Amarande: not likely, sorry |
| 00:53.30 | Amarande | :( |
| 00:53.34 | Amarande | well, we'll welcome you if you ever do |
| 00:53.41 | Cairenn | :) |
| 00:53.42 | Amarande | is an Adept of Cereus House there |
| 00:53.49 | Amarande | OWWWWWWW |
| 00:53.50 | Amarande | and |
| 00:53.54 | Amarande | on a completely unrelated note |
| 00:53.55 | Amarande | I just |
| 00:53.58 | Amarande | ran over my toe |
| 00:54.00 | Amarande | with my desk chair |
| 00:54.01 | Amarande | ow |
| 00:54.02 | Amarande | fuck |
| 00:54.02 | Amarande | ow. |
| 00:54.10 | Amarande | aahhhhhhh ow |
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| 00:54.24 | Amarande | am I ever glad to be drunk right now |
| 00:54.25 | Amarande | :| |
| 00:54.32 | Amarande | ow. |
| 00:54.37 | Amarande | hmm |
| 00:54.54 | Amarande | to take the time to farm 13 more badges to get the second 10% xp heirloom for my fledgling warrior, or not ... |
| 00:55.00 | cogwheel | c-c-c-combo breaker! |
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| 00:56.18 | Amarande | is it worth getting both 10% heirlooms for each alt? |
| 00:56.36 | Lunessa | Amarande: why stop there? Get 2 and go for 20% |
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| 00:57.51 | cogwheel | scratches his head |
| 00:57.55 | Amarande | besides, that's what, three more heroics? :) |
| 00:58.11 | cogwheel | Lunessa: did you read something differently than i did? :P |
| 00:58.12 | Cairenn | Amarande: a) I spend all day looking at forums and stuff as it is; b) while I may flirt & tease & joke, I do have a reputation I need to maintain |
| 00:58.42 | Lunessa | cogwheel: Blood-sugar low, missed "both" |
| 00:59.44 | Amarande | Cairenn: yeah ... sadly it seems that perceptions matter about 1000x as much as actual reality |
| 00:59.48 | Amarande | well, unless it's your x-perl frames |
| 00:59.57 | Amarande | in which case it doesn't matter whether it says you're at full health, if in reality you're dead |
| 00:59.58 | Amarande | but ... |
| 00:59.59 | Amarande | heh |
| 01:00.00 | Amarande | yeah. |
| 01:00.17 | Cairenn | heh |
| 01:00.22 | Shadowed | Mind over matter |
| 01:00.38 | Amarande | pitbull's better than x-perl anyway |
| 01:00.48 | Amarande | and people who say it's hard to configgle are noobs :| |
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| 01:01.50 | Shadowed | It is hard to configure if you don't want to spend time sorting it out |
| 01:01.55 | Amarande | well |
| 01:01.59 | cogwheel | configgles Fisker's mom |
| 01:02.05 | Amarande | I'll say it was a bit of a pain to figure out how to create raid frames with it |
| 01:02.07 | Shadowed | There's a difference between "Easy to configure" and "Easy to configure if you spend 2 hours sorting out how it works" |
| 01:02.09 | Amarande | but once I figured that out, I was gold |
| 01:02.22 | Amarande | and for some reason I kept missing the "number of columns" bit too |
| 01:02.26 | Jerub | i use oUF_freebgrid |
| 01:02.35 | Jerub | because someone told me to ages ago and it works for me |
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| 01:02.54 | Jerub | barely configurable tho. it just happens to do just enough for me. |
| 01:02.56 | cogwheel | Cde: i lost you |
| 01:02.58 | cogwheel | get it? |
| 01:03.05 | Shadowed | Well it's oUF |
| 01:03.37 | Shadowed | You can configure it however you want, but you have to touch Lua |
| 01:03.37 | Jerub | Shadowed: ;) |
| 01:03.38 | Jerub | i've had no need. |
| 01:03.54 | Jerub | and it was clearly previously configured by someone who plays a druid healer :P |
| 01:04.39 | Lunessa | I just use Shadowed Unit Frames 'cause I'm lazy. |
| 01:05.04 | Jerub | at one point freebgrid showed pets, now it doesn't |
| 01:05.05 | cogwheel | i'm lazier... i use defalut |
| 01:05.08 | Jerub | and i don't know how to fix it |
| 01:05.10 | Jerub | so pets die. |
| 01:05.11 | cogwheel | with correct speeling even |
| 01:05.53 | Jerub | well, not always. wild growth sometimes keeps them alive ;) |
| 01:06.01 | Jerub | especially with 2T10 bonus |
| 01:06.30 | Lunessa | cogwheel: I can't ... default isn't bad, but... it's not what I /need/ |
| 01:07.19 | Jerub | i can heal 5mans with default, but i've never tried raids with it |
| 01:09.17 | Jerub | also. |
| 01:09.19 | Jerub | hugs Cairenn |
| 01:09.20 | Amarande | eh, who cares about pets |
| 01:09.33 | Cairenn | hugs Jerub |
| 01:11.27 | Cairenn | Amarande: depends on the type of 'pet' you're talking about ;) |
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| 01:13.27 | Lunessa | MMmmm hmmmmm... velly intellestink. |
| 01:19.06 | cogwheel | http://www.etsy.com/listing/44214843/vasectomy-get-well-gift-set-congrats-on |
| 01:19.51 | Jerub | i have a coworker going to the vet shortly. |
| 01:20.03 | Jerub | may buy that |
| 01:25.51 | WobWork | you have a coworker going to the vet? |
| 01:26.00 | WobWork | short on money, is he? |
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| 01:28.15 | Lunessa | ... |
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| 01:30.20 | Cide | hi |
| 01:30.45 | cogwheel | o rly? |
| 01:31.12 | Thunder_Child | low |
| 01:31.42 | Cide | hey Shirik |
| 01:31.49 | Cide | I fixed my irc encoding |
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| 01:33.17 | cogwheel | Cide: PRÃÃVE IT! |
| 01:33.25 | Cide | PRÃÃVE |
| 01:33.31 | cogwheel | /CHEER |
| 01:33.38 | Cide | ALL CAPS DAY? |
| 01:33.46 | cogwheel | APPARANTLEE |
| 01:34.02 | Lunessa | FO SHO! |
| 01:35.32 | WobWork | A Møøse once bit my sister ... |
| 01:38.32 | Lunessa | moose bites are very painful. |
| 01:40.41 | cogwheel | http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2010/06/07/i-sense-a-disturbance-within-the-force-star-wars-inspired-corsets/ |
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| 01:41.32 | Arrowmaster | hot |
| 01:42.27 | cogwheel | it's weird not having to copy that in an IM to mrs cog... |
| 01:42.49 | Arrowmaster | because she IM'd it to you? |
| 01:42.57 | cogwheel | points at Mikina |
| 01:42.58 | Thunder_Child | assuming she is paying attention |
| 01:43.47 | Mikina | *waves* |
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| 01:46.43 | Lunessa | cogwheel: I was highly amused by http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2010/06/07/porn-has-never-touched-this-pc-pic/ |
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| 01:49.07 | Arrowmaster | i was ammused that utah was filled with so many suckers that actually pay for porn on the internet http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2010/06/06/stats-on-internet-porn/ |
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| 01:53.11 | Amarande | Arrowmaster: Utah has people? :) |
| 01:53.47 | Arrowmaster | yes |
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| 01:53.50 | Arrowmaster | evil people |
| 01:53.50 | Amarande | well, I guess there must be people there |
| 01:54.00 | Amarande | heck, there's people in wyoming, for light's sake |
| 01:54.00 | Arrowmaster | they are responsible for SCO |
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| 01:58.02 | Wella | hello anyone who may be alive |
| 01:59.01 | Jerub_ | shrug |
| 01:59.05 | TC-Away | i'm undead, does that count? |
| 01:59.22 | Wella | 'fraid not |
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| 02:07.23 | eidolarr | what's everyone's opinion of the clique configuration menu |
| 02:07.59 | Thunder_Child | it works? |
| 02:08.17 | eidolarr | unorthodox though |
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| 02:11.12 | Amarande | I've never used Clique |
| 02:11.32 | Amarande | that's the healer companion for grid, right? |
| 02:11.36 | Amarande | I don't use Grid, either. :S |
| 02:11.48 | Thunder_Child | not just grid and not just healers |
| 02:11.57 | Lunessa | Clique is jnwhite's click-casting addon. |
| 02:11.57 | Thunder_Child | it works on any unit frame |
| 02:12.00 | Lunessa | It's awesome. |
| 02:12.09 | Amarande | okay, healers and paladins, then |
| 02:12.24 | Thunder_Child | eidolarr: not really, it works like most keybind systems |
| 02:12.39 | eidolarr | I've never seen a config like that before, I was wondering if it was considered a success |
| 02:12.55 | eidolarr | i can't think of any other addon that adds a psuedo tab to your spellbook and then binds directly to the book |
| 02:13.02 | Thunder_Child | well, the addon is. and personaly i have no issue with that |
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| 02:15.14 | Jerub | THIS IS SO COOL http://www.wimp.com/engineersdogs/ |
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| 02:17.32 | AbsolutRayne | Evening :) |
| 02:23.25 | Kraps | Clique is win |
| 02:24.41 | Jerub | clique is life. |
| 02:24.55 | Kraps | literally |
| 02:25.00 | Iriel | Clique is joy |
| 02:25.56 | Kraps | back when i discovered is it was |
| 02:26.06 | Kraps | it it* |
| 02:27.27 | Lunessa | As a friend of mine once said "I'll have the author of Clique's babies." |
| 02:27.59 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzHLeDBKprA |
| 02:30.55 | Kraps | i think i'm getting a boner |
| 02:32.02 | Thunder_Child | you think? as in you dont know? |
| 02:32.19 | Kraps | now is not the time for semantics Thunder_Child |
| 02:32.30 | Thunder_Child | it is always the time Kraps |
| 02:32.45 | Seerah | Jerub: I like this :) http://www.wimp.com/legoprinter/ |
| 02:33.19 | Amarande | I'm trying to figure out what Clique would be practical for me for though |
| 02:33.20 | Arrowmaster | http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2010/05/28/explaining-the-monty-hall-problem/ |
| 02:33.23 | Amarande | given that I normally play DPS |
| 02:33.25 | Arrowmaster | i love the comments |
| 02:33.33 | Amarande | unless it's somehow useful for misdirecting or tricksing |
| 02:33.51 | Amarande | neither of which appears to be particularly useful without macros or addons :S |
| 02:33.56 | Arrowmaster | it cracks me up that people still argue over the monty hall problem |
| 02:34.14 | Iriel | You can use it for misdirection |
| 02:34.23 | cogwheel | that was quick... the blog that was using my logo (from my server, even) no longer exists |
| 02:34.27 | Iriel | I have focus/pet on a macro, but use clique for other units |
| 02:34.39 | Arrowmaster | cogwheel: what did you do? |
| 02:34.54 | cogwheel | reported it to blogger (google) |
| 02:36.03 | Amarande | so far the only things I've really macro'd are targeting macros for hard to find quest mobs like Ursius |
| 02:36.12 | Amarande | and a flying/regular mount macro which I've only bothered to use yet on the hunter |
| 02:36.16 | Arrowmaster | you should have used my suggestion of using mod_rewrite to redirect the image to goatse when the referrer was that site, still would have gotten it reported to blogger and removed but much more humorous |
| 02:37.34 | cogwheel | Arrowmaster: 1) isn't that why you went "oh well" (using "" lightly) when i said it was a shared host? 2) I think the risk i would do something wrong would be too great >< |
| 02:38.17 | Amarande | cogwheel: careful |
| 02:38.22 | Amarande | today, you'll be removing blogs from existence |
| 02:38.31 | Amarande | tomorrow, you'll be poofing entire countries and their artifacts from existence |
| 02:38.32 | Amarande | :) |
| 02:38.40 | Arrowmaster | well the odds of the host having mod_rewrite are pretty high, unless its a shared windows host |
| 02:38.41 | Amarande | although I suppose we're safe as long as you don't wear the Black |
| 02:39.20 | Kraps | oh its the first time VGL is on TV |
| 02:39.24 | Arrowmaster | and i would have helped with the mod_rewrite rules if you would have asked |
| 02:39.29 | cogwheel | well see #2 then |
| 02:39.33 | WobWork | Arrowmaster: it's so very true about how the issue with the MH problem is about -explaining- it |
| 02:39.48 | cogwheel | meh.. was much easier to fill out the form >< |
| 02:40.12 | WobWork | Lunessa: does that mean jnwhiteh has a possible surrogate available if he wants kids in the future? =) |
| 02:41.23 | Lunessa | WobWork: I doubt it. The girl in question is unlikely to ever actually carry through with such an offer, hyperbole being the order of the day. |
| 02:41.30 | WobWork | pft |
| 02:42.41 | Arrowmaster | WobWork: i think i can come up with a better explanation where instead of using a car and goats your a pizza delivery man and behind one door is two coeds without enough enough money to pay for the pizza they just ordered and behind the other doors are really fat chicks, i think the mental pictures add to the incentive to make sure you fully understand it and get it right than just taking a guess |
| 02:46.50 | Jerub | is armory really laggy for anyone else? |
| 02:47.03 | WobWork | Arrowmaster: Then again, you're more likely to get an actual monetary tip from the fat chicks |
| 02:47.17 | Jerub | http://i.imgur.com/duMbe.png |
| 02:47.23 | Arrowmaster | i think you missed the reference |
| 02:47.23 | WobWork | and from how I understand how pizza delivery people are paid in the US, you probably want the money over the vd =P |
| 02:48.36 | Lunessa | "The pizza is plain, but Slick Willie always brings his own hot sausage." *cue music* |
| 02:48.51 | WobWork | *bow chika wakka chika wakka chika wakka chika wakka chika wakka chika* |
| 02:49.20 | Lunessa | We are going straight to Hell. |
| 02:49.27 | Arrowmaster | also i feel like putting this out there but since i didnt know where i was when i last read it, i just read the entire archive of least i could do between yesterday and today |
| 02:49.44 | WobWork | Arrowmaster: And it took you from Yesterday to Today? =) |
| 02:49.56 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: That much exposure to Lars' humor is likely to be... warping. |
| 02:50.04 | Arrowmaster | theres over 2000 strips, and i did other things too |
| 02:50.04 | WobWork | truth |
| 02:50.25 | WobWork | I like LICD Beginnings |
| 02:51.31 | Arrowmaster | yes i am imagining a strip right now where rayne is using the situation i proposed to explain the monty hall problem, although instead of reveling one of them he builds a brick wall infront of the door |
| 02:52.05 | Lunessa | "DO NOT GO IN THERE!" |
| 02:52.26 | Jerub | she stayed in character the whole time |
| 02:52.53 | Arrowmaster | and thats when i bought the horse a prostitute |
| 02:53.58 | Jerub | i love virtual machines after i do all the work to make them painless |
| 02:54.13 | Torhal | WobWork: So a non-pizza-delivery-man will actually prefer the VD? |
| 02:54.43 | Amarande | I don't think anyone prefers the VD |
| 02:54.55 | Amarande | except maybe crazy evil priests who worship decay and disease, heh |
| 02:55.07 | Amarande | unholy DKs, maybe |
| 02:57.49 | Amarande | although come to think of it, who in their right mind would have sex with a DK :) |
| 02:58.20 | Amarande | unholy are probably suffused with all kinds of disease ... frost are probably cold as dry ice down there ... blood... hmm ... maybe blood |
| 03:00.52 | Jerub | STOP THINKING |
| 03:01.51 | Lunessa | Isn't a critical part of becoming a death knight the act of dying? So... only necrophiliacs really. |
| 03:02.08 | Amarande | Lunessa: seemingly |
| 03:02.21 | Amarande | however, seeing as DKs do not ever really seem to show any differences from the living |
| 03:02.36 | Amarande | for instance, they still need to breathe underwater, and still (if not undead) only get the same three minutes they did while alive |
| 03:02.52 | Amarande | I'm not sure they are actually undead ... |
| 03:03.14 | Lunessa | They're superior to the Forsaken in terms of passing as living, but ... they still died. |
| 03:03.24 | Amarande | those glowing eyes are probably a tad unsettling to be close to though |
| 03:03.35 | Shirik | how not to appeal a block: |
| 03:03.37 | Shirik | "my account was suddenly accused of being blocked as a sockpuppet and then I open a new account, Moebon but is still called, what happened" |
| 03:03.51 | Kraps | lol @ god of war at VGL, yeah its great for kids |
| 03:03.58 | Amarande | Lunessa, you could say what's his name in Darnassus is a necro then, after all, how many times has Tyrande died to horde raids? :) |
| 03:04.41 | Lunessa | Amarande: In the story line though, they didn't die. :P |
| 03:05.04 | Nechckn | But, if you go by that line of thinking, all players should have glowing eyes, and likely near every NPC. |
| 03:07.06 | Kraps | Shirik: why are you blaming him for something his account did? |
| 03:07.34 | Shirik | ... |
| 03:07.38 | Amarande | Shirik: you mean "Moeron", not "Moebon"? |
| 03:07.47 | Shirik | I just copy-pasted what he said |
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| 03:08.03 | Amarande | Moeron sounds more appropriate, though. |
| 03:08.20 | Nechckn | ;-) |
| 03:08.54 | Kraps | hey, we have http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_music , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_culture , and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_music_culture |
| 03:11.59 | DWSR | Anyone here know of an easy way to sync your entire Photobucket account to Picasa? |
| 03:12.09 | Kraps | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_culture needs some serious copy editing |
| 03:12.35 | Amarande | Kraps: well fix it or mark it with WP:cleanup |
| 03:18.40 | Arrowmaster | ok this is the greatest thing i have ever seen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZLdguAzbwg&hd=1 |
| 03:24.29 | DWSR | Whoever linked the audio modulated thunder, I hate you. |
| 03:24.33 | DWSR | That is so fucking win. |
| 03:24.49 | Arrowmaster | you mean me |
| 03:25.01 | Arrowmaster | on the line directly above yours |
| 03:25.10 | DWSR | ZNC, I cleared my buffer. |
| 03:26.00 | DWSR | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJqoRaphiEk&feature=related |
| 03:26.02 | DWSR | related win |
| 03:27.55 | Arrowmaster | then you want to see this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdrqdW4Miao |
| 03:29.47 | DWSR | Yeah, I saw that in the video. |
| 03:30.10 | Arrowmaster | http://gizmodo.com/5554927/arcattack-americas-next-pop-sensation-or-mainstream-music-machine-victim |
| 03:31.37 | Amarande | speaking of "mainstream machine victims" |
| 03:31.42 | Amarande | something ought to be done about that mainstream machine |
| 03:31.48 | Amarande | it ruins too much talent and art :| |
| 03:32.54 | Amarande | labors of love > labors of industry. always. |
| 03:32.57 | Amarande | at least in creative fields. |
| 03:33.34 | Amarande | right? |
| 03:36.45 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: I loved watching her stupid fucking X short out because of the Tesla coils./ |
| 03:37.41 | DWSR | Anyway. |
| 03:37.42 | DWSR | Gone! |
| 03:41.57 | Amarande | wow, I killed chat. |
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| 03:56.23 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5557626/quantum-communication-isnt-jut-for-illusive-men-anymore |
| 03:59.23 | Cide | so much wrong information in that post |
| 04:15.55 | Shirik | http://xkcd.com/745/ |
| 04:15.57 | Shirik | I don't get it |
| 04:18.07 | Jerub | Shirik: they bought a bunch of copies, put them on kindles, and burned the kindles. |
| 04:18.11 | Jerub | duh |
| 04:22.48 | Shirik | Kraps, that is awesome |
| 04:22.52 | Shirik | uh |
| 04:22.53 | Shirik | Jerub? |
| 04:22.56 | Cide | except incorrect |
| 04:22.59 | Shirik | what are you talking about |
| 04:23.00 | Cide | massively so |
| 04:23.18 | Cide | he's talking about today's xkcd, Shirik |
| 04:23.22 | Cide | I guess he thought you linked it |
| 04:23.29 | Kraps | Shirik: book burners suck. the end |
| 04:23.42 | Shirik | you all fail for answering the wrong questions |
| 04:23.43 | Shirik | except Cide |
| 04:24.12 | Jerub | oh |
| 04:24.50 | Jerub | Shirik: it's because people make fun of dyslexics with the slogan, "Dyslexics of the world, untie!" |
| 04:25.05 | Shirik | that's a slogan? |
| 04:25.23 | Jerub | so if a dyslexic support group made one, and tried to intneionally mispell it, they'd write "Dyslexics of the world, unite". i.e. spelling it wrong wrong. |
| 04:25.32 | Jerub | yes, it's an old joke |
| 04:26.01 | Thrae | I was a dyslexic until faith in the almighty Dog healed me. |
| 04:26.30 | Cide | http://www.explainxkcd.com/2010/05/26/dyslexics/ |
| 04:26.30 | Cide | or what Jerub said |
| 04:27.05 | Shirik | there's an explainxkcd.com? |
| 04:27.11 | Cide | yep |
| 04:27.49 | Jerub | never heard of it. |
| 04:28.02 | Cide | now you have |
| 04:28.06 | Jerub | it would've been good for the airplane one or the confusing joke one |
| 04:28.38 | Kraps | theres also http://xkcdsucks.blogspot.com/ |
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| 04:34.31 | WobWork | xkcdsucks tries far far too hard to be edgy and cool |
| 04:34.52 | WobWork | and takes itself far too seriously for a blog critiquing a webcomic made from stick figures =P |
| 04:35.40 | Kraps | oh so you're a fanboy |
| 04:35.46 | Kraps | :p |
| 04:35.59 | Antiarc | http://i.imgur.com/5BpvF.jpg |
| 04:36.11 | WobWork | Kraps: you're such a h8r =P |
| 04:36.27 | WobWork | xkcdsucks is also one of the reasons we can't have nice things on the internet |
| 04:36.47 | Shirik | I'm still having trouble believing that the world likes this stick figure comic so much |
| 04:36.52 | Shirik | like |
| 04:36.58 | Shirik | wtf is wrong with us |
| 04:37.29 | WobWork | Antiarc: why is there a circle of skulls? |
| 04:39.27 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: because it is more book than comicbook |
| 04:43.47 | Antiarc | WobWork: Plague Sickness |
| 04:43.48 | Antiarc | On heroic |
| 04:45.00 | WobWork | Antiarc: ah... so not raid markers =) |
| 04:45.17 | Antiarc | Nope |
| 04:45.28 | WobWork | Shirik: it's not the medium that makes it funny |
| 04:52.56 | Kraps | was the ptr patched? |
| 04:53.45 | Kraps | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?sid=1&topicId=25172043581 |
| 04:53.55 | Kraps | username: a |
| 04:54.01 | Kraps | password: a |
| 04:56.08 | Shirik | ?? |
| 05:01.44 | Thunder_Child | holy crap, Shirik Iriel, http://gizmodo.com/5515991/house-season-finale-shot-entirely-on-a-canon-5d-mark-ii |
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| 05:02.33 | Shirik | Thunder_Child |
| 05:02.37 | Shirik | not only is that my camera |
| 05:02.40 | Shirik | those are also my lenses |
| 05:02.53 | Shirik | well I don't have primes |
| 05:02.57 | Thunder_Child | i want some play time this year at blizzcon Shirik |
| 05:02.59 | Shirik | but the two zooms |
| 05:03.10 | Shirik | I want to take a shot at ISO 25600 at blizzcon |
| 05:03.12 | Shirik | just to see what happens |
| 05:03.18 | Thunder_Child | GRAIN! |
| 05:03.49 | Torhal | Thunder_Child: I laughed at the comment "Its lupus." |
| 05:03.49 | Shirik | actually |
| 05:03.51 | Shirik | there's a standard mechanism to minimize noise |
| 05:04.21 | Thunder_Child | http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/06/500x_lv9zq_01.jpg |
| 05:04.27 | Shirik | apparently the biggest cause of noise is inconsistencies in transistors, but on their own the transistors are quite consistent |
| 05:04.31 | Shirik | it's just compared to each other they aren't |
| 05:04.32 | Amarande | Shirik, are you going to get the new Mamiya medium format digital? :) |
| 05:04.38 | Shirik | no |
| 05:04.40 | Shirik | I like my camera |
| 05:05.35 | Shirik | what exactly does medium format digital even mean |
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| 05:06.07 | Iriel | Shirik: I ordered a D700 (Finally decided I wanted a full frame) |
| 05:06.12 | Amarande | lemme get the linky |
| 05:06.13 | Shirik | Iriel: yay :) |
| 05:06.23 | Shirik | Amarande: I can see it |
| 05:06.28 | Shirik | but my point is it's just marketing |
| 05:06.36 | Shirik | like "medium format digital" doesn't make any sense |
| 05:06.45 | Amarande | http://photography.bhinsights.com/content/thumbnails-mamiyas-rz33-medium-format-dslr.html |
| 05:06.45 | Iriel | Sure it does, massive sensors |
| 05:06.54 | Shirik | but that's all it is |
| 05:07.08 | Shirik | as far as digital is concerned, that doesn't really have any meaning except an implementation detail |
| 05:07.09 | Iriel | Well, if you have an investment in medium format glass.... |
| 05:07.20 | Amarande | wow it uses CF cards |
| 05:07.24 | Amarande | hardly anything uses CF anymore |
| 05:07.29 | Shirik | my camera does... |
| 05:07.40 | Amarande | speaking of which ... isn't it kinda weird that the so-called "compact" flash card is the largest of the commonly used memory card formats? :) |
| 05:07.43 | Shirik | just about anything decent will still use CF |
| 05:07.54 | Shirik | everything else is way too slow |
| 05:08.40 | Iriel | My cameras all use CF too |
| 05:09.01 | Amarande | ah, mine have always used SD |
| 05:09.37 | Amarande | hell |
| 05:10.12 | Cide | your cameras don't kill heroic LK, so to speak |
| 05:10.30 | Shirik | ? |
| 05:10.36 | Amarande | well, yeah, mine are pretty cheap |
| 05:10.43 | Cide | Amarande's camera |
| 05:10.47 | Amarande | however, even such well-regarded cameras as the Nikon D series of DSLR's use SD |
| 05:11.17 | Iriel | The 'smaller' D series do |
| 05:11.22 | Iriel | the Dn, Dnnn's dont |
| 05:11.23 | Shirik | nikon is evil |
| 05:11.33 | Iriel | The Dnn's do |
| 05:11.54 | Amarande | Dnnnn's do, apparently, too |
| 05:12.10 | Iriel | Nikon's number schemes are.. odd |
| 05:12.43 | Shirik | well |
| 05:12.46 | Shirik | it's better than canon's |
| 05:13.01 | Shirik | Introducing the Canon 1D, our top-of-the-line camera |
| 05:13.04 | Iriel | I really did want a D3S but... it's just TOO expensive |
| 05:13.08 | Shirik | so you would think their next model would be the 2D |
| 05:13.15 | Shirik | no we'll call it the 1D Mark II |
| 05:13.18 | Shirik | then the 1D Mark III |
| 05:14.41 | Thunder_Child | you know what the 3D will be... |
| 05:15.06 | Shirik | omg |
| 05:15.08 | Shirik | yes |
| 05:15.12 | Shirik | epic |
| 05:15.29 | Thunder_Child | Shirik has an o-face now |
| 05:15.40 | Shirik | o-face? |
| 05:16.11 | Thunder_Child | orgasm |
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| 05:25.05 | Shirik | kd3 |
| 05:25.06 | Shirik | hi |
| 05:30.35 | Shirik | ~wiki Vamped |
| 05:31.43 | Kraps | RS, OR, COI, NOTE |
| 05:32.01 | Kraps | off the top of my head |
| 05:32.13 | Shirik | I almost deleted it with a reason of "no" |
| 05:32.19 | Shirik | but just picked A7 instead |
| 05:32.22 | Kraps | heh |
| 05:32.48 | Shirik | A7 isn't entirely accurate but I streched it with IAR |
| 05:34.07 | Kraps | i'm still trying to figure out what IAR does |
| 05:34.53 | Thunder_Child | this is quite cool http://gizmodo.com/5555649/trons-sark-hoodie-is-red-and-evil-and-mine |
| 05:35.33 | Shirik | what IAR does? |
| 05:35.35 | Shirik | it does everything |
| 05:35.37 | Shirik | and nothing |
| 05:35.50 | Kraps | yeah... |
| 05:35.56 | Thunder_Child | sounds like our government |
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| 05:41.20 | eidolarr | is there an addon that can tell me the textures of the frames under the mouse? |
| 05:41.33 | eidolarr | the textures owned by the frames i mean |
| 05:46.03 | eidolarr | wow power auras has like a million files |
| 05:50.44 | Jerub | eidolarr: someone told me power auras is also really cpu intensive. |
| 05:50.59 | Jerub | but i don't really care, i can't dps as arcane without it :/ |
| 05:51.59 | Amarande | Jerub: why do you need an addon to dps as a specific spec? |
| 05:52.17 | Amarande | about the only complex ui thing I can think dps might need to do is macroing trinkets |
| 05:52.27 | Amarande | and maybe macros for misdirecting or tricksing if you're a hunter or rogue |
| 05:52.43 | Amarande | otherwise, you just keep typing in your rotation |
| 05:52.53 | Amarande | right? |
| 05:52.54 | eidolarr | Jerub: idk if CPU intensive follows from this but there are about 15 non-localization files here |
| 05:53.18 | eidolarr | i find cpu intensive doesnt really matter, only garbage skewing is noticable |
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| 05:54.06 | Nechckn | most complaints about memory or CPU are baseless, anymore... in the early days, perhaps, but not much since 2.x |
| 05:54.22 | eidolarr | if it's really bad with garbage it makes my game seize up every few seconds |
| 05:54.32 | eidolarr | or you know what, sometimes loading screens get longer |
| 05:54.53 | Nechckn | especially if people have machines capable of running tbc and then wotlk . |
| 05:55.11 | Nechckn | Sure, load screens, perhaps, but once it is done, that is about the only impact. |
| 05:55.18 | Jerub | Amarande: because it counts my arcane blast counts |
| 05:55.19 | Amarande | I wonder if I'll need to upgrade the RAM for cata |
| 05:55.43 | Nechckn | (Just speaking generally, not about power auras; never looked at it that way) |
| 05:59.51 | Dagmar | They don't make newbs in games like they used to. |
| 06:00.15 | Amarande | Dagmar: huh? heh |
| 06:00.39 | Dagmar | I cautiously stepped into RDR multiplayer this afternoon. The first person I pass on the road has his gun out, I let it slide and keep going. He turns around and starts chasing me. |
| 06:01.06 | Dagmar | I make a token attempt to shake him, wound up just gunning his happy ass off his mule. |
| 06:01.29 | Dagmar | He doesn't get the hint... Respawns, comes after me again. |
| 06:02.12 | Arrowmaster | i still need to get that game |
| 06:02.13 | Dagmar | Three more senseless deaths later (because clearly he doesn't understand Dagmar + high ground + rifle == I WIN)... I start getting messages from him along the lines of "dude... stoooop!" |
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| 06:02.55 | Dagmar | Five more deaths later, I actually had to go to the "help" marker where my voice can be broadcast to all players... |
| 06:03.37 | Dagmar | "Dude, I have no idea why you're trying to message me to stop killing you when you come after me with your tiny little gun out, but I *will* kill you every time you do that." |
| 06:04.09 | Dagmar | Everyone else rushed the help markers just to laugh |
| 06:04.26 | Arrowmaster | he didnt know you could holster your weapon or something? |
| 06:04.37 | Dagmar | I think he was just chronically stupid |
| 06:04.55 | Dagmar | If he wanted to "ask" me something, he could have just done so |
| 06:05.14 | Arrowmaster | you playing on PC? |
| 06:05.23 | Dagmar | RUnning up, weapon drawn, in a PvP setting... 'spesh when there's like sixteen max people in *all that space*? |
| 06:05.31 | Arrowmaster | did rockstar finally do a PC release at the same time as console release? |
| 06:05.32 | Dagmar | There's only one way to interpret that |
| 06:05.34 | Dagmar | No. |
| 06:06.08 | Dagmar | I wish they did, but then some of the game would become really trivial |
| 06:06.20 | Arrowmaster | so what console? |
| 06:06.31 | Arrowmaster | didnt realize you had one |
| 06:06.49 | Dagmar | I'm not "spoliing" anything, because well, it's pretty obvious the federales will eventually try to kill *you* but that last fight would be *doable* with a mouse+keyboard |
| 06:07.16 | Gintaro | which game are you talking about? |
| 06:07.27 | Dagmar | 12-15 of them trap you in a barn |
| 06:07.34 | Dagmar | Red Dead Redemption |
| 06:07.40 | Gintaro | Ah |
| 06:07.47 | Dagmar | With the bullet-time thing, I could certainly kill them all |
| 06:07.51 | Dagmar | ...but only with a mouse |
| 06:07.59 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: PS3 |
| 06:08.22 | Dagmar | I'm still disappointed with the way bluetooth earpieces and that thing integrate |
| 06:08.38 | Arrowmaster | gah why the hell do these damn things for renewing my XBL gold membership keep popping up on my xbox dash |
| 06:08.40 | Gintaro | bluetooth, fail |
| 06:08.41 | Dagmar | GTAIV I really thought it would act like a regular bluetooth earpiece when it came to the cell phone |
| 06:08.49 | Arrowmaster | ive got over 10 months left |
| 06:08.53 | Dagmar | Nope. It just routes *all* the sound through the earpiece |
| 06:09.15 | Arrowmaster | it does? wow that sucks |
| 06:09.43 | Dagmar | Yeah. It would have made a lot more sense to me to do it like that, since you'd *hear* the other guy's surroundings, rather realistically |
| 06:10.36 | Dagmar | At some point I'm going to have to learn how to message people in multiplayer. Hehe |
| 06:10.40 | Nechckn | 360 has a decent wireless approach, imnsho. Stuff works nicely, anyway. |
| 06:11.03 | Nechckn | Even with the cord for the headphones and all. |
| 06:11.30 | Nechckn | No sudden sound cut-outs, no nothing, just worky-worky. |
| 06:12.16 | Arrowmaster | no it wouldnt, if it didnt route the sound through the headpiece then it would do audio cancellation on the microphone since the systems knows exactly whats being played out the speakers, most stuff does that now |
| 06:12.21 | Dagmar | There is, unfortunately, no lasso in multiplayer |
| 06:12.55 | Dagmar | ...otherwise I would have just dragged that little twit around for awhile until he got the hint. |
| 06:14.35 | Nechckn | Think of the RP fun, if there were a lasso... |
| 06:14.53 | Nechckn | Yee haw, buckaroo! |
| 06:15.23 | Nechckn | shudders at the new meaning of Bull Riding |
| 06:17.12 | Dagmar | Would anyone happen to know how to send a _text_ message in a PS3 multiplayer game? |
| 06:17.35 | Dagmar | The acutal USB keyboard I have didn't seem to get me anywhere |
| 06:19.31 | Arrowmaster | i think its different for every game |
| 06:19.55 | Arrowmaster | which is part of why i hate PS3 multiplayers setup, nothing is standardized |
| 06:21.07 | eidolarr | at a very high level how are things like inventory slots or sockets structured in terms of ui elements? |
| 06:22.34 | Arrowmaster | huh? |
| 06:25.00 | eidolarr | take the gem socket slots |
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| 06:25.05 | eidolarr | in the ui pane |
| 06:25.11 | eidolarr | is that like, a heavily modified button? |
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| 06:28.37 | Iriel | Why not look at their code? |
| 06:29.07 | Dagmar | Far as I know it's not any more of a button than anythign else is |
| 06:29.44 | Iriel | http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser/live/AddOns/Blizzard_ItemSocketingUI/Blizzard_ItemSocketingUI.xml |
| 06:29.50 | Iriel | Looks like a button |
| 06:30.50 | eidolarr | yeah I guess that's what I'll have to do, thanks =) |
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| 07:00.48 | Antiarc | http://www.wowwiki.com/File:Wowhead_Mankrik%27s_Wife.jpg |
| 07:01.14 | zenzio | lol |
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| 07:06.37 | DJJeff | And now the realms go down........... |
| 07:06.40 | DJJeff | for 24 hours |
| 07:06.45 | DJJeff | whatever shall I do |
| 07:07.12 | DJJeff | whats that big bright ball of fire outside called |
| 07:07.15 | DJJeff | its awesome |
| 07:10.48 | Jerub | DJJeff: death |
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| 07:11.35 | DJJeff | no need to type my nickname |
| 07:11.38 | DJJeff | I am right here |
| 07:11.45 | Jerub | DJJeff: deeaaath |
| 07:11.52 | DJJeff | Jerub: ooooooooooooooook |
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| 07:32.56 | sylvanaar | i need some ideas for Lua refactorings for my lua editor |
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| 07:46.22 | Kaso | You should create a feature that allows you to change the lua source without modifying it functional behaviour in ways that improve some nonfunctional attributes of the code! |
| 07:48.38 | sylvanaar | thats the point |
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| 07:52.44 | Kaso | i am making le joke |
| 07:54.08 | sylvanaar | im going to try to go back to sleep now |
| 07:54.23 | sylvanaar | 4am ftl |
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| 08:07.57 | zenzio | hm, remote auction house is live... Fisker must be happy |
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| 08:57.38 | DJJeff | The Orb Two ? |
| 08:58.26 | zenzio | http://comixed.com/2010/06/07/4-koma-comic-strip-dont-worry-about-me/ |
| 08:59.05 | olafski | lol! |
| 08:59.28 | DJJeff | OH MY GOD |
| 08:59.37 | DJJeff | the best thing happend in my ICC 25 man |
| 08:59.47 | DJJeff | we wiped on deathwhisper |
| 08:59.53 | DJJeff | and the door wouldnt open |
| 08:59.59 | DJJeff | so the GM killed her |
| 09:00.06 | DJJeff | and we got to skip it |
| 09:00.32 | DJJeff | blizz def needs to fix this glitch |
| 09:01.12 | zenzio | you know women... sometimes they just won't let you in. Deathwhisper is no different |
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| 09:03.05 | Dagmar | Cept there if you use more dps you get arrested |
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| 09:38.30 | zenzio | http://clientsfromhell.net/post/663314349/this-is-everything-we-asked-for-but-not-what-we |
| 09:39.04 | olafski | at least they're honest |
| 09:39.15 | zenzio | yeah, most clients aren't that introspective |
| 09:41.30 | olafski | omg this isn't what I asked for! |
| 09:42.26 | Arrowmaster | this ones better http://clientsfromhell.net/post/660773192/i-already-paid-for-the-googles-i-just-want-my |
| 09:42.44 | zenzio | I disagree. They're both good, but they're about different issues |
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| 09:42.58 | olafski | if you say this (the one zenzio posted) as a client, you're pretty much getting ready for "so what will it cost to change it?" |
| 09:43.31 | zenzio | that site has taught me a lot |
| 09:43.46 | zenzio | like how you should put "Everyone welcome" on every single link on your page |
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| 09:45.50 | olafski | :))) |
| 09:45.57 | olafski | great site |
| 09:46.15 | olafski | some of the things on there are pretty unbelievable yet I believe them without trouble |
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| 10:15.37 | Spejnar | Anyone know if there's an addon that can traverse the calender summing up the "attendence" of accepts/tentative/decline/non-signs and so on? |
| 10:19.03 | Arrowmaster | http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/06/04/lol-the-reoccurring-prop-newspaper/ |
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| 10:20.17 | zenzio | heh |
| 10:23.49 | Arrowmaster | lol from the "Desperate Housewives - 2Ã13" pic you can tell its the same page printed over and over on both sides |
| 10:24.16 | zenzio | wonder if the person who made the newspaper gets royalties |
| 10:24.40 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if that chick pictured in the newspaper has an imdb page |
| 10:25.13 | Arrowmaster | because you know that would be one fucking epic list |
| 10:27.30 | Arrowmaster | one of the comments says since its seems to be printed up to be authentic on a normal newspaper press they must have a large stockpile of them due to how the presses work, you can just print a few |
| 10:27.36 | Fisker | slaps Arrowmaster around a bit with a large trout |
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| 10:27.51 | Arrowmaster | cant just print a few |
| 10:28.59 | zenzio | I'm sure a custom print shop could've made newspapers if you paid them; but yeah |
| 10:31.10 | Arrowmaster | "I will add to Trin's comment that, in my limited experience on set, I have seen several paper bags that were actually made of a durable material that actually wasn't paper. It's reusable and, I think more important, doesn't make any noise. So I am imagining this newspaper is a mass produced prop made of suede (I think) that holds up, doesn't tear, and won't make any noise." |
| 10:31.35 | Fisker | hey zenzio |
| 10:31.46 | zenzio | I hate it when my newspapers shout at me |
| 10:34.28 | Fisker | slaps zenzio around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:37.42 | Spejnar | olafski: you know? ^^ |
| 10:41.11 | olafski | how should I know, I don't do guilds |
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| 10:41.31 | Spejnar | How should I know that you dont know due to you not doing guilds? |
| 10:41.33 | Spejnar | huh?! |
| 10:41.58 | olafski | if that isn't obvious you're not going to understand anyway ;-) |
| 10:42.01 | Torhal | Rhetorical question is rhetorical. |
| 10:43.12 | Spejnar | olafski: stop being mean and fix it for me! |
| 10:43.28 | Arrowmaster | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zd_khk6zXo&hd=1 i wana know how long that took to make, seems like all original edited footage to me |
| 10:43.30 | olafski | ffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu |
| 10:43.42 | Spejnar | :(((((( |
| 10:44.07 | Spejnar | found group calendar 5, not sure if it actually has stuff like this |
| 11:11.05 | Fisker | kd3 |
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| 11:19.53 | Fisker | kisses sylvaan |
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| 11:23.03 | Fisker | robokitty |
| 11:24.08 | sylvanaar_atwork | good morning |
| 11:25.17 | Fisker | hey sylvanaar_atwork |
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| 11:38.17 | Wella_ | Hooray, I just made ShowMeTheMoney |
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| 11:42.38 | Spejnar | Asking again, anyone know if there's an addon that can traverse the old calender raids and build some kind of attendence summary? |
| 11:45.23 | Wella_ | No idea but the second one here seems to have a lot of functions http://vranx.com/calendar.htm |
| 11:45.45 | Spejnar | installed group calender5 but not sure if it actually has stuff like that |
| 11:46.21 | Spejnar | hopefully it doesnt require the addon to have been installed to get the history |
| 11:46.26 | Spejnar | I will try that one, thanks Wella_ |
| 11:47.25 | Wella_ | No |
| 11:47.26 | Wella_ | *Np |
| 11:47.32 | Spejnar | YES! >.< |
| 11:47.35 | Wella_ | Forget the underscore please XD |
| 11:47.43 | Spejnar | Donald <3 |
| 11:49.02 | Wella_ | And so my adventure into the world of addon-tongue begins |
| 11:51.20 | Spejnar | say wut? |
| 11:51.31 | Spejnar | and that addon is listed on curse but no in the curse client, strange |
| 11:51.36 | Spejnar | not in the* |
| 11:52.02 | Wella_ | Just manually install it |
| 11:52.11 | Wella_ | Also yeah I'm learning LUA/XML |
| 11:52.37 | Spejnar | ah, Im actually reading "wow programming in Lua" atm, summer course ^^ |
| 11:52.51 | Wella_ | Cool |
| 11:52.53 | Spejnar | Im gonna make an addon that is gay more gay than GS |
| 11:52.59 | Wella_ | Haha |
| 11:53.00 | Spejnar | Im gonna get banned for crime against wow-humanity |
| 11:53.02 | Wella_ | Reading some WoWWiki random shit atm |
| 11:53.08 | Wella_ | Already made ShowMeTheMoney |
| 11:53.12 | Spejnar | haha |
| 11:53.18 | Spejnar | with actual sound from Jerry? |
| 11:53.23 | Wella_ | Lol |
| 11:53.24 | Wella_ | >_> |
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| 11:53.48 | Wella_ | Oh well |
| 11:53.56 | Wella_ | Exam in school soon byebye, good luck with the calendar thing |
| 11:53.59 | Spejnar | gl hf |
| 11:54.00 | Jerub | shutdown starting on the realm i rolled a toon on |
| 11:54.00 | Spejnar | ty |
| 11:54.14 | Spejnar | yeah, whats up with that 24h maintenence thing? |
| 11:54.31 | Jerub | Spejnar: this update brings facebook+bnet integration |
| 11:54.34 | Jerub | realid friends |
| 11:54.38 | olafski | fun! |
| 11:54.41 | olafski | almost makes me want to resub |
| 11:54.47 | Spejnar | oh that is so gay |
| 11:54.55 | Jerub | maybe 3.3.5 and the cataclysm prep world events. |
| 11:55.03 | Spejnar | give me ruby and fuck facebook, its for retards |
| 11:55.11 | Jerub | Spejnar: I think perhaps I don't like the way you're expressing yourself. |
| 11:55.13 | Spejnar | Id rather see them implement fuckbook |
| 11:55.21 | Spejnar | I think I couldn't care less. |
| 11:55.46 | zenzio | I'm more excited about 3.4, with its second pre-Cataclysm raid, "C++ Sanctum" |
| 11:57.34 | industrial | zenzio: you mean "C++ Pits Of Hellfire And Pain And Eternal Damnation" ? |
| 11:57.42 | zenzio | no |
| 11:57.48 | zenzio | simple play on Ruby is simple |
| 11:58.36 | Arrowmaster | should have just gone with Python or Perl for the joke |
| 11:58.51 | zenzio | but I don't like those |
| 11:59.06 | industrial | that implies you like C++ |
| 11:59.13 | zenzio | exactky |
| 11:59.18 | zenzio | or exactly |
| 11:59.22 | industrial | cold chills |
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| 12:04.09 | DJJeff | slaps Fisker with his very own hand |
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| 12:05.59 | alestane | Um..."I'm celebrating tres de junio so if you can help me find some sombreros ill be grateful. Also, today in 1992 Aborigines were granted rights to their land so I might need some boomerangs." |
| 12:11.50 | jnwhiteh | Spejnar: where/what is 'WoW Programming in Lua'? |
| 12:14.53 | Spejnar | hmm, the info was only in swedish |
| 12:15.01 | Spejnar | summer course @ umeå university |
| 12:15.50 | jnwhiteh | Spejnar: http://www.umu.se/utbildning/program-kurser/kurs/?code=5DV110? |
| 12:15.53 | jnwhiteh | that one? |
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| 12:16.22 | Spejnar | aye |
| 12:16.39 | jnwhiteh | Ah its using my book, heh |
| 12:16.47 | Spejnar | just ordered it |
| 12:17.32 | Spejnar | cool, a famous operator |
| 12:17.33 | Spejnar | yay |
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| 12:18.41 | Spejnar | I never order books, but for some reason I felt this one might be fun to have. |
| 12:18.46 | Spejnar | You should feel honored ^^ |
| 12:18.51 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 12:19.00 | jnwhiteh | if nothing else, you can use it to prop up your couch if the leg comes off |
| 12:19.06 | jnwhiteh | it also makes a good weapon. |
| 12:19.22 | Spejnar | then I would need to buy a couch :/ |
| 12:19.38 | alestane | "That computer was a total piece of junk. What I recommend is, use it as a paperweight." |
| 12:19.54 | alestane | "Oh, I couldn't do that sir. The door would keep blowing open." |
| 12:20.11 | DJJeff | ~seen yess |
| 12:20.35 | purl | i haven't seen 'yess', DJJeff |
| 12:20.35 | industrial | jnwhiteh: it makes a good weapon indeed. |
| 12:20.38 | industrial | Fisker: eat code! |
| 12:20.39 | airtonix | "How to win friends and influence people" |
| 12:20.45 | industrial | throws a book at Fisker |
| 12:22.03 | DJJeff | slaps industrial around a bit with a 500lb C++ manual |
| 12:22.34 | Fisker | your sons dog industrial |
| 12:22.42 | Fisker | why would i eat code? |
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| 12:25.20 | DJJeff | whats the link to the scam curse client website? |
| 12:25.41 | DJJeff | using firefox can report it as a forgery can we not? |
| 12:26.10 | Spejnar | it probably is reported long time ago, considering its even on news sites |
| 12:26.28 | Fisker | old news though |
| 12:26.34 | DJJeff | 13 hours old? |
| 12:27.04 | Fisker | several months infact |
| 12:27.12 | Fisker | and it's already removed here anyway |
| 12:27.45 | DJJeff | Posted Jun 07, 2010 by Kody |
| 12:27.51 | DJJeff | seems pretty recent |
| 12:28.02 | Spejnar | if its on a news site it has been reported and removed |
| 12:28.34 | Fisker | wouldn't know why they posted it now DJJeff |
| 12:29.24 | Fisker | anyway lol that blizzard will be selling additional character slots |
| 12:29.58 | DJJeff | where do you see that? |
| 12:30.25 | Fisker | well they haven't said they would actually |
| 12:30.43 | Fisker | but they sent out a survey yesterday/today asking if you would be interested in paying for additional character slots |
| 12:30.50 | Wobin | http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/062010/small_reluctant%20hero.jpg |
| 12:31.19 | Fisker | nice Wobin |
| 12:31.29 | Wobin | I hope you have shoes |
| 12:31.37 | Fisker | not at the moment :( |
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| 12:33.31 | Fisker | anyway DJJeff i guess the old one was removed |
| 12:34.00 | zenzio | thar be peppy |
| 12:34.15 | alestane | Thar be, ineed. |
| 12:34.18 | alestane | indeed* |
| 12:34.29 | zenzio | one does tend to need a peppy |
| 12:35.24 | Lopeppeppy | Awwww. *grin* |
| 12:35.44 | alestane | I often need a little extra peppy in the morning, myself. |
| 12:36.26 | zenzio | http://www.mmo-champion.com/general-discussions-22/gunship-spelling-error/ - how can you be raiding ICC and never have noticed that NPCs talk with accents? |
| 12:37.52 | Fisker | hey Lopeppeppy |
| 12:37.54 | Fisker | not so hey alestane |
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| 12:40.39 | alestane | Good afternoon, Fisker, since I don't think you're either leaving or arriving at the moment. |
| 12:41.13 | Fisker | :(? |
| 12:41.23 | alestane | ~ugt |
| 12:41.31 | purl | ugt is probably Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 12:42.22 | mascondante | ~trout Nechckn |
| 12:42.23 | purl | ACTION slaps Nechckn around a bit with a large trout! |
| 12:42.23 | foxlit | I feel like that should be reversed |
| 12:42.43 | foxlit | It is always evening when you get to IRC, and early morning when you leave. |
| 12:43.52 | DJJeff | When the Cataclysm occurs, it will occur for all players, whether they have purchased the expansion or not--you will no longer be to play in the original version of Kalimdor or the Eastern Kingdoms |
| 12:43.58 | DJJeff | neet :) |
| 12:44.01 | Fisker | ~uft |
| 12:44.19 | zenzio | only natural |
| 12:44.30 | Fisker | that's just embarrassing DJJeff :( |
| 12:44.38 | foxlit | hey, they could go all Wrathgate on you. |
| 12:44.54 | foxlit | but that wouldn't be very nice for new players. |
| 12:45.04 | zenzio | what, phasing? |
| 12:45.49 | olafski | phasing generally doesn't modify the "land" does it, only the props? |
| 12:46.01 | zenzio | that's what I was thinking too |
| 12:46.03 | foxlit | olafski: cata tech lets it modify everything. |
| 12:46.07 | olafski | oh |
| 12:46.10 | olafski | neat :) |
| 12:46.11 | zenzio | besides, with the changes we're seeing, I think phasing would be overkill |
| 12:47.33 | Fisker | http://api.ning.com/files/yxovynJdoZDvZlHKtRUXCgxDi4FrP2JYcfHR9ZHf6wBQiy2dBbDSKZCV8YaLOvJceFw8esZKBhPz-PeqBqP*kgn5S6F3hpzB/zRW8t3fL6102.png <-it's like people who believe this |
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| 12:50.50 | Fisker | k |
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| 12:52.02 | Fisker | der er robokitty |
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| 13:06.31 | jnwhiteh | is the new TextMate any good? |
| 13:09.24 | Fisker | sounds like some stupid app on a mac |
| 13:10.33 | jnwhiteh | i hate your face. |
| 13:11.59 | Elkano | that's what she said :( |
| 13:12.01 | Fisker | yes |
| 13:12.08 | Fisker | i did it |
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| 13:18.16 | foxlit | jnwhiteh: "new"? |
| 13:20.27 | jnwhiteh | yeah, didn't textmate 2 come out in beta? |
| 13:20.56 | DJJeff | http://images.4channel.org/f/src/onyxiawipe.swf |
| 13:20.59 | jnwhiteh | ah, its vapourware still :P |
| 13:21.48 | industrial | vim's my mate! |
| 13:21.56 | jnwhiteh | yes, I use vim for almost everything |
| 13:22.02 | jnwhiteh | but the latex integration sucks :P |
| 13:22.08 | jnwhiteh | even with latex-suite |
| 13:22.38 | foxlit | Hm. |
| 13:22.43 | foxlit | It's a 40 player raid. |
| 13:22.46 | foxlit | They have 8 debuff slots |
| 13:22.52 | foxlit | How could you possibly want more dots? |
| 13:23.05 | jnwhiteh | there were more than 8 debuff slots |
| 13:23.12 | jnwhiteh | 16, afaik at that stage. |
| 13:23.12 | olafski | yeah more like 20 |
| 13:23.14 | jnwhiteh | i.e. two rows. |
| 13:23.20 | olafski | not a lot still ;) |
| 13:23.31 | industrial | I'm trying to find a competent file tree for vim but I can't seem to find one that works right. Vim keeps being the editor with makeshift solutions for things other editors and IDE's almost all do just fine; A dir tree and usable tabs |
| 13:23.31 | zenzio | I though they said they had many slots, just didn't display more than X |
| 13:23.40 | industrial | I'm still using miniBufExpl just to fake tabs |
| 13:24.19 | foxlit | Nah, BWL had to patch it when people were pushing BA off with debuffs. |
| 13:24.42 | industrial | the PIDA project is nice though. It's essentially that. an IDE with variable editing component (so it can be vim, emacs, etc) |
| 13:25.23 | foxlit | But it could be that it was 16 -- you could maybe possibly bring 16 priests. Hm. |
| 13:25.54 | Spejnar | gogo 10 priest WSG, all playing disc |
| 13:26.17 | DJJeff | there is no aggro reset |
| 13:26.19 | DJJeff | lol |
| 13:26.45 | DJJeff | nuke it ... dot it .... hit it like you mean it |
| 13:27.09 | Spejnar | I cant wait to get lifegrip, Im gonna save/wipe so man idiots Im gonna pee myself |
| 13:27.11 | DJJeff | I cant get enough of this |
| 13:27.27 | Spejnar | so many* |
| 13:27.30 | jnwhiteh | and that was just a display, it actually wen |
| 13:27.34 | foxlit | "The debuff limit has been increased to 16 (from 8). In addition, the client will now display all 16 debuffs. |
| 13:27.35 | foxlit | " |
| 13:27.38 | foxlit | Patch 1.7 |
| 13:28.01 | zenzio | I see |
| 13:28.07 | zenzio | I only started playing at 1.8.4 |
| 13:29.04 | foxlit | Went to 40 in 2.0, and removed the limit in 3.0 |
| 13:29.21 | zenzio | I must be thinking of the 2.0 change then |
| 13:29.29 | Fisker | your sons dog foxlit |
| 13:29.43 | foxlit | NPE, Fisker. DO YOU CATCH IT? |
| 13:29.51 | foxlit | [or will you be terminated?] |
| 13:30.45 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: my point was we still had 40 man raids at that point |
| 13:31.07 | jnwhiteh | so 40 man raids + 16 slots == more dots. |
| 13:31.13 | mikma | so, any cool wow addons? (the hud and.. ?) |
| 13:31.25 | industrial | mikma: rss new addons go! |
| 13:31.35 | foxlit | jnwhiteh: possibly; it's just that when you could actually wipe on ony, you only had 8. :) |
| 13:31.43 | mikma | industrial: rss addon for wow? lal |
| 13:31.56 | jnwhiteh | They weren't a high level guild |
| 13:32.02 | jnwhiteh | and they still wiped, hence the humour :P |
| 13:34.28 | industrial | mikma: subscribe to the wowi/curse feed of new and updated addons. |
| 13:36.28 | mikma | noes. |
| 13:40.00 | Shirik | so this is neat |
| 13:40.13 | Shirik | guildmates looked up some historical data on buffs to bosses |
| 13:40.22 | Shirik | 5%: 3/02/2010 |
| 13:40.22 | Shirik | 10%: 3/30/2010 |
| 13:40.22 | Shirik | 15%: 4/27/2010 |
| 13:40.22 | Shirik | 20%: 5/25/2010 |
| 13:40.26 | Wobin | the real Iron Man: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sAqxF805fo&feature=player_embedded |
| 13:40.31 | Shirik | we're predicting a 25% buff on 6/22/2010 |
| 13:41.04 | foxlit | show the delta between those dates in days? |
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| 13:41.18 | Shirik | I dunno >< |
| 13:41.23 | Shirik | I just did "+1 month -3 days" |
| 13:41.44 | foxlit | +4 weeks |
| 13:42.07 | olafski | too clever foxlit, don't make it sound so logical ;) |
| 13:42.50 | DJJeff | oh |
| 13:42.51 | DJJeff | fuck |
| 13:42.52 | DJJeff | yes |
| 13:43.03 | DJJeff | major guild changes |
| 13:43.06 | DJJeff | for cataclsm |
| 13:43.08 | DJJeff | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNeMIfyGfmo&NR=1 |
| 13:43.18 | DJJeff | a guild talent tree |
| 13:43.51 | olafski | dude.. are you going to continue linking old news? :P |
| 13:43.59 | Fisker | yeah |
| 13:44.02 | Fisker | i'm like "wtf?" |
| 13:44.12 | DJJeff | its new news too me |
| 13:44.12 | Shirik | dude |
| 13:44.14 | Shirik | even I knew that |
| 13:44.18 | Shirik | and I don'teven log in anyore |
| 13:44.21 | olafski | "August 22, 2009" |
| 13:44.22 | DJJeff | I didnt go to blizzcon |
| 13:44.31 | jnwhiteh | did you hide from the internet? |
| 13:44.33 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 13:44.45 | olafski | I didn't go to blizzcon either.. :) |
| 13:44.45 | Shirik | with Fisker around I don't see why people wouldn't |
| 13:45.38 | Shirik | gah wtf servers are down |
| 13:45.49 | olafski | thought you didn't log in! |
| 13:45.58 | Shirik | I don't! |
| 13:46.07 | Shirik | this is like the first time in forever |
| 13:46.10 | Shirik | and I can't even get in |
| 13:46.20 | olafski | :) |
| 13:46.23 | olafski | I'll resub when cata comes |
| 13:46.39 | olafski | should've sold all my stuff before I left though, I doubt those gems will be worth much when the level cap is raised |
| 13:49.10 | Fisker | btw Shirik |
| 13:49.15 | Fisker | wtf at "predicting" |
| 13:49.18 | Fisker | it's 4 weeks durr |
| 13:50.02 | Shirik | ? |
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| 13:53.26 | Shirik | btw Fisker |
| 14:00.45 | Shirik | http://www.toothpastefordinner.com/051810/i-want-to-be-a-cat.gif |
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| 14:03.53 | Fisker | ak |
| 14:08.38 | Adys | http://www.comicsalliance.com/2010/06/07/calvin-minus-hobbes/ |
| 14:08.40 | Adys | Shirik: ^ |
| 14:08.50 | Shirik | no |
| 14:08.52 | Shirik | fuck no |
| 14:08.54 | Shirik | gtfo |
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| 14:16.29 | foxlit | grr, subgame perfection in infinitely repeated games. |
| 14:17.34 | airtonix | http://www.mangler.org/2010/03/mangler-on-android-whats-the-deal/ |
| 14:17.42 | airtonix | linux ventrilo client ^ |
| 14:17.59 | airtonix | looking for java ui developers |
| 14:18.59 | foxlit | s/java/android/ |
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| 14:20.00 | Fisker | haha |
| 14:20.03 | Fisker | should try that out |
| 14:20.10 | Kaso | Mangler is pretty cool |
| 14:20.58 | Kaso | and the concept of it working on android is pretty cool too |
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| 14:21.17 | Kaso | and i've been planning on buying a new phone... |
| 14:22.03 | foxlit | jPhone! |
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| 14:32.11 | Fisker | get an iphone Kaso |
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| 14:39.02 | nicoli_s | i think im going to get one |
| 14:42.54 | Shirik | I think I"m |
| 14:42.58 | Shirik | wait no, that would be stupid |
| 14:43.44 | AckisWork | bah please no religious discussion here, take your church of steve jobs talk elsewhere! |
| 14:44.18 | miica | i got something like this now frame:SetScript("OnEvent", function(self, event, ...) self[event](...); end) |
| 14:44.56 | malreth | pummels AckisWork in the face with an iPad |
| 14:45.02 | miica | but it dont call local function EVENNAME when event comes :O |
| 14:46.25 | airtonix | i love that i can just dump a .py script on an sdcard and run it on a droid phone that has the ASE package (which doesn't void the phones warranty by using it) |
| 14:46.30 | airtonix | or a .lua script |
| 14:46.57 | malreth | news flash... no one cares |
| 14:47.05 | Kaso | Fisker: I use linux so its not really an option |
| 14:47.07 | airtonix | so easy to create and deploy apps on the droid |
| 14:47.14 | airtonix | unlike that other phone |
| 14:47.40 | malreth | again... so what? |
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| 14:48.27 | airtonix | :) your negativity bounces off my optimism |
| 14:48.39 | jnwhiteh | miica: why would it call the local function EVENTNAME |
| 14:48.43 | jnwhiteh | that's not what you've told it to do |
| 14:48.52 | airtonix | dispatches a new vat grown batch of elite ninja baboons onto malreth |
| 14:48.54 | malreth | you've mistaken my realism for negativity |
| 14:48.56 | jnwhiteh | You've told it to call self[EVENTNAME] |
| 14:49.00 | jnwhiteh | err |
| 14:49.04 | jnwhiteh | self["EVENTNAME"] |
| 14:49.07 | airtonix | you underestimate my baboons |
| 14:49.09 | Ackis | anyone play star trek online here? |
| 14:49.18 | Fisker | slaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:49.43 | miica | jnwhiteh: yeah event value got eventname :P |
| 14:49.45 | airtonix | Fisker, what have you done with my previous batch of baboons? |
| 14:50.02 | jnwhiteh | miica: I'm aware of that. I still have no idea what your question is. |
| 14:50.09 | jnwhiteh | because what you asked didn't make sense |
| 14:50.39 | miica | jnwhiteh: so if i get CHAT_MSG_RAID i want it to call local CHAT_MSG_RAID and if CHAT_MSG_RAID_LEADER comes i want it to call local CHAT_MSG_RAID_LEADER |
| 14:50.48 | jnwhiteh | you can't ever have it call locals |
| 14:50.50 | jnwhiteh | dispatch can't work like that |
| 14:50.57 | miica | :/ |
| 14:51.02 | jnwhiteh | local functions would haev to be stored somewhere in order to get at them |
| 14:51.06 | jnwhiteh | why do they haev to be 'locals' |
| 14:51.12 | alestane | You can't refer to locals by a name determined at runtime. |
| 14:51.13 | jnwhiteh | what you have works fine |
| 14:51.22 | jnwhiteh | just define self["CHAT_MSG_RAID_LEADER"] and what you have works |
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| 14:54.39 | airtonix | Kaso, android garage door opener, based on wifi bssid availability : http://brad.livejournal.com/2394707.html |
| 14:55.51 | Kaso | Thats cool |
| 14:56.01 | Kaso | if only i had an automatic garage door opener |
| 14:56.03 | Kaso | or a garage |
| 14:56.34 | olafski | or a motorcycle? |
| 14:57.25 | Kaso | that too |
| 14:57.26 | airtonix | since he uses an x10 controller linked via a linux box, i reckon you could make it swithc just about anything |
| 14:58.42 | Kaso | But yeah this sort of stuff is why android is x10 more attractive to me than iphoneOS |
| 14:58.50 | *** topic/#wowuidev by jnwhiteh -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ || 3.3.x ToC: 30300 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Blizzcon 2010 Oct 22 & 23! || 3.3.5 PTR Patch Notes are up: http://cot.ag/bY6mEm || AVR broken in 3.3.5 http://cot.ag/aYo2YE || Are you going to BlizzCon? http://tinyurl.com/22kjfxu || The document is not incarnate |
| 14:58.56 | airtonix | apparently no one cares |
| 14:59.01 | Kaso | the ability to mess around with applications and stuff yourself without a $100 developer licence is golden |
| 14:59.06 | airtonix | ^ |
| 14:59.11 | Kaso | also iphone apps are much more limited etc |
| 14:59.28 | airtonix | shhh |
| 14:59.47 | airtonix | iphones are just small ipads with all those limitations |
| 15:00.00 | airtonix | but they're glossy so its ok |
| 15:00.10 | foxlit | wait, I thought ipads were giant iphones? |
| 15:00.15 | foxlit | circular reference error. |
| 15:00.26 | olafski | so iphones have no way of controlling those x10 things? |
| 15:00.26 | Kaso | lol |
| 15:00.42 | airtonix | yeah, is the only way you can get music on an un-jailbroken phone via itunes ? |
| 15:00.47 | airtonix | iphone* |
| 15:01.19 | foxlit | I'm sure linux has some solution that doesn't involve a jailbreak |
| 15:01.22 | airtonix | olafski, i imagine you could create an unsecure version that simply uses the html5 app method |
| 15:01.39 | Kaso | well i havent tracked the iphone os 4 changes, but back when i did iphone development last you couldnt run any apps background and couldnt access wifi information, so you prob could turn a x10 on and off, but couldnt do it in the background and couldnt have spotted your wifi ap |
| 15:01.41 | foxlit | Actually, scratch that. Doubletwist syncs to istuff, iirc. |
| 15:02.23 | Spejnar | Can anyone comfirm that pally bacon ignores LoS while healing |
| 15:02.25 | olafski | airtonix: a quick google shows me an x10 controlling app.. I have no clue how x10 works or anything but I assume this is not unique for android |
| 15:03.01 | Kaso | he was just controlling x10 over http so that could be done on anything |
| 15:03.06 | Kaso | but sans cool stuff |
| 15:03.11 | Kaso | and with +$100 price tag |
| 15:03.22 | airtonix | ah well my point was to put music on an adroid phone you just copy paste the music without using crap itunes sync bollocks |
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| 15:03.48 | olafski | yeah that's a pretty major point against apple stuff for me :P |
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| 15:04.23 | malreth | i'll be sure to tell all my relatives... oh yeah... they don't care |
| 15:04.28 | airtonix | i got real sick of having to dance with the itunes sync on my ipod and quikly installed rockbox on it... moving my desired tracks was a far quicker operation |
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| 15:04.49 | Kaso | malreth: i dont care about what your relatives think, i care what i think when im picking a phone. |
| 15:04.58 | airtonix | oh and it was lulz when itunes failed and your music was corrupted |
| 15:05.03 | Fisker | Kaso if only we could control cars and motorcycles through android |
| 15:05.08 | Kaso | lol |
| 15:05.33 | airtonix | intsalls python.automobile.dominator |
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| 15:07.23 | malreth | i think it's a good thing we have a marketplace full of smart phones that all suck, android, iphones... |
| 15:08.04 | zenzelezz | OpenMoko? |
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| 15:08.57 | malreth | the iPhone is like bondage. you SAAAAAY you want your precious "freedom" but deep inside you really want to be held down by the masculine might that is iTunes. |
| 15:09.13 | airtonix | um... |
| 15:09.14 | airtonix | no |
| 15:09.41 | malreth | Android is missionary... you think you're free, but you'll just get bored in the end |
| 15:09.45 | airtonix | is reloading |
| 15:10.20 | airtonix | :) |
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| 15:10.32 | malreth | you lie there... clutching the bed sheets, trying to make it look like you're enjoying it... but Android doesn't care |
| 15:10.33 | Lopeppeppy | malreth, you're still messed in the head |
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| 15:10.49 | malreth | Lopeppeppy: always |
| 15:10.57 | foxlit | teehee, they shut down the mobile AH just after I tried it. |
| 15:11.09 | foxlit | also, it stole authenticator's secret numbers to log in. |
| 15:11.30 | airtonix | http://sven.killig.de/android/N1/2.2/usb_host/ |
| 15:13.56 | malreth | ok... i'll get serious for a bit... |
| 15:14.15 | zenzelezz | lol, good one malreth |
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| 15:20.56 | malreth | you know all that shit you dish out to mactards because they're annoying? yeah, they're damn annoying... well, we, meaning the rest of us rational-thinking population, feel the same way about droidtards too. you, frankly, sound just as "religious" and "zealous" as anyone else does when they're boasting about how much better their crap is. It makes as much sense as arguing about dildos. They're all pretty much just as good as any other. |
| 15:21.33 | durcyn | android fanboys are the worst because they're overcompensating |
| 15:21.35 | Fisker | There's a difference |
| 15:21.37 | batrick | pretty sure vibrating dildos are the most popular |
| 15:21.38 | foxlit | So apple copied the awesomebar. |
| 15:21.39 | Fisker | Android is actually good |
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| 15:21.49 | foxlit | With one seemingly important problem: I can't turn it off. |
| 15:22.49 | zenzelezz | malreth: a tard is a tard |
| 15:23.04 | malreth | dildotards are even worse |
| 15:23.09 | olafski | foxlit: what's an awesomebar? :o |
| 15:23.17 | malreth | gawd... what cocks those people are |
| 15:23.30 | eidolarr | more interesting are the people who aren't fanboys but who are still nerds who prefer apple |
| 15:23.33 | foxlit | olafski: when what you type in the address bar is matched against the content of your history |
| 15:23.37 | olafski | I've never seen a discussion about what is the better dildo.. would be interesting to see |
| 15:23.42 | olafski | foxlit: ah =) |
| 15:24.14 | Fisker | i like those mounted on bikes |
| 15:24.18 | Fisker | or sleds |
| 15:24.19 | malreth | olafski: there's a reason why... those people are more concerned with using what it is that they have and not lording their mock-superiority over others |
| 15:24.19 | eidolarr | olafski: i'm told it all comse down to preference so not much discussion to be had' |
| 15:24.22 | foxlit | for example, maybe I'd want to visit aaaaa.com, but auto-complete on a seems to think I want to go to "Addons - WoWInterface" |
| 15:24.23 | Fisker | or gocarts |
| 15:24.39 | eidolarr | a friend of mine bought this, uh, strap-in dildo shaped like a dolphin |
| 15:24.49 | Fisker | strap-in? |
| 15:24.52 | Fisker | wat. |
| 15:24.56 | eidolarr | yeah you know what i mean |
| 15:25.00 | eidolarr | like a backwards strapon |
| 15:25.05 | Fisker | yeah |
| 15:25.08 | Fisker | my point stands |
| 15:25.10 | Fisker | wat. |
| 15:25.16 | malreth | Fisker: it's for chicks |
| 15:25.19 | eidolarr | she really liked the little mermaid |
| 15:25.40 | eidolarr | which didn't really explain the dolphin in retrospect |
| 15:26.31 | malreth | that does seem inconsistent |
| 15:26.35 | Lopeppeppy | Nothing explains the dolphins |
| 15:27.54 | eidolarr | but yeah, the rational, technical people who choose apple despite its nasty developer policies and attempts to seemingly control the internet are the most interesting |
| 15:28.13 | Lopeppeppy | Just like the dolphins |
| 15:28.24 | batrick | there's nothing interesting about it |
| 15:28.33 | batrick | they just choose to ignore Apple's terrible faults |
| 15:28.58 | malreth | it's an economic decision |
| 15:29.00 | eidolarr | well often they find android has equally crippling faults |
| 15:29.13 | batrick | sure it does |
| 15:29.24 | batrick | but Apple has crippling *philisophical* faults |
| 15:29.26 | eidolarr | idk i couldn't imagine paying that much for a device and not being free to hack on it on weekends |
| 15:29.40 | batrick | those are what i'm referring to |
| 15:29.48 | batrick | not the quality of the device/OS |
| 15:29.50 | eidolarr | it's not completely obvious they're wrong, they're just very different |
| 15:29.57 | Ackis | anal gland |
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| 15:30.02 | eidolarr | i wonder if they would have played a similar game if they'd dominated desktops? |
| 15:30.09 | malreth | and we're back to dildotalk |
| 15:30.11 | batrick | of course they will |
| 15:30.24 | batrick | they'll make an app store for the OS when they have the market and it's game over |
| 15:30.32 | eidolarr | i don't think they will, i think that ship has sailed lol |
| 15:30.38 | batrick | maybe |
| 15:30.47 | batrick | i see more and more people buying those apple desktop/laptops |
| 15:30.55 | Fisker | a market place for apps on the pc could be nice |
| 15:30.59 | eidolarr | who among their customers would use a desktop instead of an ipad? |
| 15:31.05 | alestane | They don't support "open everything", which some people consider a grievous philosophical issue, but for the most part they win on the "it just works" point, so that doesn't bother people as much as it could. |
| 15:31.26 | malreth | and you're still ignoring html5 webapps |
| 15:31.43 | batrick | Apple supports open standards, just that they only let you use their software that implements said standard |
| 15:31.46 | eidolarr | I think when he referred to philosophical mistakes he meant restriction of things apple finds inappropriate, and the requirements they impose on developers |
| 15:31.53 | malreth | feel free to hack away on webapps all weekend long |
| 15:32.09 | eidolarr | i would rather suicide |
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| 15:32.44 | foxlit | Heck, join the developer program and feel free to write native apps all weekend long. |
| 15:32.46 | malreth | you would rather die |
| 15:32.52 | malreth | eidolarr: you would rather end your life |
| 15:32.54 | cog|work | Ackis: anal gland |
| 15:33.04 | Ackis | cog|work: anal gland |
| 15:33.09 | cog|work | poor goggie :( |
| 15:33.19 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:33.32 | eidolarr | foxlit: i don't have no $100 bux and i dislike objc |
| 15:33.41 | Ackis | cog|work: he wasn't acting hurt at all, he's still goofy/etc but now he has a blown anal gland |
| 15:33.53 | foxlit | eidolarr: you probably can't afford the phone either. |
| 15:33.55 | batrick | wtf is this siht |
| 15:34.06 | foxlit | I mean, the 100$ pales in comparison to what you have to pay for /that/. |
| 15:34.07 | eidolarr | no I can |
| 15:34.19 | airtonix | "why should i have to" |
| 15:34.24 | malreth | you don't need to pay $100 to write a webapp |
| 15:34.31 | airtonix | lol @ webapps |
| 15:35.14 | eidolarr | foxlit: $100 on top of the cost of the phone to write in a language I dislike on a closed system is not conducive to hobbyist hacking |
| 15:35.35 | foxlit | "I don't like the price" is a different argument to "I can't!" |
| 15:36.07 | eidolarr | well i figured "i can't" is transient |
| 15:36.16 | eidolarr | i'm not talking about me |
| 15:36.21 | eidolarr | i'm talking about the phone as a hacking toy |
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| 15:37.05 | foxlit | So "it's expensive for a hacking toy", then? |
| 15:37.25 | airtonix | it also does not produce free sex |
| 15:37.46 | eidolarr | no, its policies are formed in a way that discourage hobbyist fiddling |
| 15:37.53 | foxlit | [And yes, it is, no argument there. Could buy an ancient phone and code J2ME.] |
| 15:38.29 | eidolarr | I could buy an incredible and be playing with it that night before bed |
| 15:38.40 | eidolarr | with an iphone i have to be thinking about dropping more money, and then reading into their policies |
| 15:38.49 | theorbtwo | Or jailbreaking. |
| 15:38.54 | airtonix | then buying a mac |
| 15:39.00 | durcyn | because rooting an android phone is so much easier |
| 15:39.06 | durcyn | also, htc handsets are awful |
| 15:39.07 | airtonix | why would you need to ? |
| 15:39.35 | eidolarr | i wouldn't have to root it to make toy apps |
| 15:40.07 | eidolarr | foxlit: you seem to be trying to say that if you can afford an iphone, spending $100 because you want to play with their app environment for giggles is like a few more drops |
| 15:40.19 | eidolarr | that's not the case for me, and probably not the case for a lot of people |
| 15:40.22 | airtonix | i dont think you need to root the android to make apps |
| 15:40.31 | eidolarr | you don't |
| 15:40.49 | foxlit | If you wanted to play with their app environment for giggles, you could always use the simulator. If you know you'll want to run your own software on the phone, yes, 100$ isn't a lot compared to the total cost of the phone. |
| 15:40.51 | airtonix | and thus dont need to void your warranty |
| 15:41.14 | airtonix | foxlit, you can get this simulator without the developer entry fee? |
| 15:41.18 | foxlit | Yes. |
| 15:41.19 | airtonix | and does it run on linux ? |
| 15:41.24 | foxlit | No. |
| 15:41.27 | eidolarr | $100 is enough to discourage you from doing it |
| 15:41.30 | airtonix | well then |
| 15:41.41 | airtonix | does it only run on a mac ? |
| 15:41.49 | foxlit | Yes. |
| 15:41.49 | eidolarr | my girlfriend was playing with her clique and she made a simple clock app following a tutorial, which she ran on her phone |
| 15:42.04 | eidolarr | she is a college student and there is no way she would have spent $100 for any sort of developer pass |
| 15:42.05 | foxlit | You could probably VM a mac and run it there, but meh, that's almost cheating. |
| 15:42.13 | airtonix | so not only do you need to pay 100$, but you also need a mac. |
| 15:42.15 | eidolarr | "not a lot compared to the phone" is not sufficient |
| 15:42.20 | malreth | eidolarr: fucking webapps, dude |
| 15:42.24 | airtonix | lol |
| 15:42.30 | eidolarr | oh my god |
| 15:42.39 | foxlit | eidolarr: I question the value of following a tutorial to write a clock app that works on your phone. |
| 15:42.49 | foxlit | You *gain nothing* from doing that. |
| 15:42.56 | eidolarr | errr |
| 15:42.57 | airtonix | said the priest to the choir boy |
| 15:43.02 | eidolarr | you learn the apis and the environment |
| 15:43.18 | foxlit | No need to deploy to a phone for that. |
| 15:43.28 | airtonix | its more interactive |
| 15:43.34 | eidolarr | it's fun to see what you've made live |
| 15:43.41 | eidolarr | and you get to figure out how to put things on your phone |
| 15:43.43 | foxlit | Not if it's a clock. |
| 15:43.47 | eidolarr | it's the first thing i would do too |
| 15:44.04 | eidolarr | to understand the complete path from emacs to the phone screen |
| 15:44.19 | eidolarr | lol ok, let me tell her, "nevermind you shouldn't do this, foxlit says it's not fun" |
| 15:44.20 | airtonix | empowering? |
| 15:44.28 | eidolarr | when i'm playing with my new phone, i'll think "wait what would foxlit say?" |
| 15:44.37 | airtonix | zieg HEIL! |
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| 15:45.32 | foxlit | "eidolarr: to understand the complete path from emacs to the phone screen" << the complete path from the code to the simulator differs from the complete path from the code to the phone only by the process of installing the app on the phone -- and that's itunes/app store, so you're missing nothing |
| 15:45.32 | olafski | sieg* |
| 15:45.44 | airtonix | could i plug my usb keyboard into an iphone and use that instead of the touchscreen ? |
| 15:45.56 | eidolarr | airtonix: i doubt it has an ide |
| 15:46.18 | eidolarr | foxlit: i am not arguing that it is impossible to develop apps without putting them on actual hardware |
| 15:46.39 | theorbtwo | Though, for some apps, it more or less is. |
| 15:46.40 | eidolarr | i am saying that for the casual hacker it's fun to see your code on the wires, and not fun to pay $100 |
| 15:47.05 | theorbtwo | If your app uses the accelerometer, you aren't going to get a good idea of what it's like to use in a simulator. |
| 15:47.26 | airtonix | good thing his girlfriend has the phone |
| 15:47.27 | eidolarr | yeah i could definitely imagine that being a fun toy |
| 15:47.52 | eidolarr | airtonix: i have one too, it was an example |
| 15:47.53 | foxlit | eidolarr: yes, "It's fun to do X, it's not fun to pay $Y" applies to anything. |
| 15:47.59 | eidolarr | airtonix: mine just sucks |
| 15:48.54 | eidolarr | foxlit: yes indeed you can overgeneralize an argument to make it silly, but back in the world of programming it is very common to be able to play with apis and test things before spending money for a license |
| 15:49.06 | airtonix | i think it would suck large donkeys balls if blizzard decided that addon authors can only release addons if they first pay a fee |
| 15:49.07 | eidolarr | even on hardware |
| 15:49.34 | eidolarr | airtonix: i think it would be sort of interesting if they had done that and then set up an addon store |
| 15:50.08 | airtonix | i wouldn't have even bothered playing the game |
| 15:50.32 | foxlit | Comparative cost, though |
| 15:50.32 | malreth | if that had happened, eidolarr might have even committed suicide |
| 15:50.39 | foxlit | What's 2$ on a $50 game? :) |
| 15:50.56 | eidolarr | malreth: only if they allowed html addons |
| 15:51.17 | olafski | would you then also be allowed to charge money for your addon? :) |
| 15:51.17 | eidolarr | malreth: not commit suicide, "suicide" as a verb |
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| 15:52.00 | eidolarr | we might have seen addon companies even |
| 15:52.16 | olafski | doesn't sound too bad |
| 15:53.18 | eidolarr | might have been a fun alternate reality |
| 15:53.32 | eidolarr | i'd pay for an addon before i'd pay to change my toon's facial features |
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| 15:53.38 | xanax` | hello |
| 15:54.03 | theorbtwo | It seems unlikely that they will move to that now, though. |
| 15:55.33 | Fisker | hey theorbtwo |
| 15:55.48 | theorbtwo | Hi, Fisker. |
| 15:58.18 | Fisker | noooooooo |
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| 16:26.02 | xanax` | Can I have <frame> <layer></layer> <layer></layer> </frame> or I have to use <frame> <layers><layer></layer> <layer></layer></layers> </frame> ? |
| 16:26.48 | xanax` | i mean.. Am I obliged to use <layers> ? |
| 16:28.26 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/676811033 |
| 16:28.48 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 16:32.21 | jnwhiteh | you have to use layers |
| 16:32.26 | jnwhiteh | xanax`: the schema says so |
| 16:32.37 | xanax` | ok |
| 16:33.02 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: anal gland |
| 16:33.56 | nicoli_s | Ackis:you goin to blizzcon this year |
| 16:34.10 | eidolarr | When I create a frame inheriting OptionsListFrameTemplate, it complains about not having a name field or somethnig, and in the example code it looks like they declare that in the OnLoad constructor |
| 16:34.17 | eidolarr | is there a way to do that from lua? |
| 16:34.46 | jnwhiteh | eidolarr: you'd have to manually do it |
| 16:34.58 | jnwhiteh | but 'it complains about not having a name field or something' doesn't tell us all that much |
| 16:35.05 | jnwhiteh | you just do what the OnLoad does when you instantiate the frame |
| 16:35.09 | jnwhiteh | and hopefully that's soon enough |
| 16:35.10 | alestane | Did you add your on OnLoad to it? |
| 16:35.25 | eidolarr | how can I set an onload before the frame is constructed? |
| 16:35.28 | jnwhiteh | I read that as him creating the frame in Lua |
| 16:35.28 | Ackis | nicoli_s: no, not enough $$ to go |
| 16:35.32 | jnwhiteh | eidolarr: you do it in XML |
| 16:35.34 | jnwhiteh | like the template does |
| 16:35.42 | jnwhiteh | if the template relies on it. |
| 16:35.44 | eidolarr | so you have to use XML? |
| 16:35.49 | jnwhiteh | knowing the error you're having |
| 16:35.54 | jnwhiteh | instead of a vague descrioption would help |
| 16:35.56 | Lopeppeppy | ... the local movie theater is already advertising the new Twilight movie for 6/29. Eeeeeew!!!! |
| 16:35.57 | alestane | Depends on how the template is constructed. |
| 16:35.58 | eidolarr | ok |
| 16:36.24 | alestane | Eew because it's Twilight, Peppy dear, or something about that date in particular? |
| 16:36.42 | theorbtwo | "Already"? That's not that far in advance. |
| 16:36.58 | eidolarr | aha I am dumb, nevermind =) |
| 16:37.01 | nicoli_s | its so funny, the soundtrack for the last 2 twilight movies have been so good |
| 16:37.33 | Lopeppeppy | theorbtwo, that's the only movie I've seen them put on the advance ticket sales page, more than a week or so in advance. |
| 16:37.44 | Lopeppeppy | alestane, eeew because of the teeny-bopper squee factor. |
| 16:37.55 | theorbtwo | Oh, advance ticket list, not just a poster in the lobby. |
| 16:38.01 | alestane | She lives kinda west of nowhere, theorbtwo. |
| 16:38.26 | alestane | Not such huge audiences there, they're really plugging this. |
| 16:38.45 | Lopeppeppy | Posters in the lobby I expect, but the ticket site? Ugh. Go back to the forest, I bet they're all Team Jacob. |
| 16:39.13 | Torhal | I liked the Twilight spoof Olivia Munn did. |
| 16:39.34 | alestane | Still like a statement from an author friend of mine before movie two..."And for those of you who keep asking, I am not Team Edward nor Team Jacob. I am Team Alice." |
| 16:39.53 | Lopeppeppy | I did rent movies 1 and 2 to watch, see what that was all about... and yeah, Team Alice would be the best. |
| 16:40.03 | NightHawkTheSane | I prefer team buffy. what with the staking. |
| 16:40.26 | Torhal | Speaking of vampires - new True Blood season in five days. |
| 16:40.51 | alestane | I've been saying I ought to watch or read at least one episode, yeah, to understand what's moving the current round of pop culture. |
| 16:41.05 | nicoli_s | i refuse to watch that shit |
| 16:41.43 | Torhal | Foof. |
| 16:41.51 | Lopeppeppy | Never seen a True Blood. |
| 16:41.58 | nicoli_s | i hear true blood is good |
| 16:42.04 | nicoli_s | and i usually trust hbo to make good shows |
| 16:42.11 | Lopeppeppy | I hear the books suck and the series blows. |
| 16:42.14 | Torhal | It is good. Weird as fuck at times, but good. |
| 16:42.35 | nicoli_s | well thats good, i like weird stuff |
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| 16:42.40 | Lunessa | station |
| 16:42.47 | Torhal | Lunessa: Boobs? |
| 16:42.56 | Lunessa | Always. |
| 16:43.14 | alestane | If you're ever up this way. Lunessa, we found a very nice barbeque restaurant in Lowell last night. |
| 16:43.30 | Lopeppeppy | He has to get through me first, alestane! |
| 16:43.45 | Lunessa | Pork or Beef? |
| 16:44.15 | alestane | Kat actually ordered barbecued Texas sausage. |
| 16:44.25 | alestane | I think they're a bit more on the pork side. |
| 16:44.37 | Adys | Google Reader :: google.org Blog : It's flu o'clock somewhere - 6:10PM |
| 16:44.37 | Adys | Google Reader :: Google Photos Blog : Got Soccer Fever? - 6:58PM |
| 16:44.41 | Adys | Unfortunate titles |
| 16:44.44 | alestane | But the buffalo shrimp was _to_die_for_. |
| 16:45.05 | Lunessa | Most East Coast places do Tennessee-style BBQ - which is great, but it doesn't compare to my true BBQ love. |
| 16:45.28 | nicoli_s | mmmm good bbq |
| 16:45.53 | Lopeppeppy | How do boobies lose out to beef? *cry* |
| 16:45.54 | nicoli_s | as long as its more smoky and sweet than vinegary im down |
| 16:46.07 | alestane | These guys had a very solid sauce and used fresh crisp peppers for their stuffed jalapeños. |
| 16:46.10 | nicoli_s | we got too many womezn in the room |
| 16:46.10 | Lunessa | When I moved back to Texas, a friend posted "Do not get hands between Unkle and his BBQ. Lunch out 5 times this week, every time BBQ. " |
| 16:46.47 | alestane | comforts Peppy. |
| 16:46.55 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: No one ever gets offended if we look at pictures of BBQ. Those with boobies often feel slighted if we're drooling over pictures of them. |
| 16:47.36 | Lunessa | But... Boobs are awesome. |
| 16:47.43 | nicoli_s | signs |
| 16:47.48 | Lopeppeppy | Okay, eat your barbeque with alestane, I can wait! |
| 16:48.36 | malreth | i feel no shame in looking at women's breasts |
| 16:48.40 | alestane | Backing up the subject, Peppy, Teeny-boppers will squee over something. Doesn't really matter what. |
| 16:49.01 | malreth | you know who else, besides straight men, stare at boobs? straight women. |
| 16:49.06 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Any time you want to show me your boobies for drooling over, I'll be there. :P |
| 16:49.09 | NightHawkTheSane | alestane: well, it kind of does. i'd rather it was something less mysogenistic. |
| 16:49.10 | Lopeppeppy | agreed, malreth. |
| 16:49.32 | NightHawkTheSane | (i may have mauled that spelling, too) |
| 16:49.34 | malreth | ~malreth |
| 16:49.42 | purl | never take malreth seriously |
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| 16:49.53 | malreth | no! you're wrong, purl! |
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| 16:50.11 | alestane | I remember noticing in the Artists' Alley at AnimeBoston that of all the voluptuous fan renderings of characters, at least as many were being hawked by woman artists. |
| 16:50.33 | malreth | alestane: uh... were men buying the prints? |
| 16:50.54 | Lopeppeppy | that's just drawing what sells. |
| 16:51.01 | malreth | nods sagely |
| 16:51.11 | NightHawkTheSane | probably mostly, but there's a non-trivial number of women who buy them too |
| 16:51.14 | Torhal | Or, in the immortal words of Wayne Newton: "I'm going to have to ship this 'wick-prick' platinum just so teenage girls cam have a compact disc cover to get wet with." |
| 16:51.15 | alestane | Didn't watch that long, malreth, but in my experience most of those artists start by drawing in styles that interest them. |
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| 16:51.30 | Lunessa | Back when I was commissioning art for games all the portfolio submissions by women were generally manga style with lots of boobs. |
| 16:51.50 | Torhal | can* |
| 16:51.52 | malreth | Lunessa: that sounds frightening |
| 16:51.55 | Seerah | they figure it's men who are looking at the portfolios |
| 16:52.08 | malreth | there should only be two breasts on a person |
| 16:52.22 | Lunessa | Seerah: Or as in the case of over half the women submitting portfolios, they were into girls and not men. |
| 16:52.23 | malreth | one pair, more specifically |
| 16:52.24 | NightHawkTheSane | malreth: what if it was a game of anthropomorphic cows? |
| 16:52.35 | Seerah | that works, too |
| 16:52.43 | Lunessa | Also - I submit: http://www.girlsdrawingirls.com/ - and you can all thank me later. |
| 16:52.48 | alestane | I also think the message of Ron White's "Everyone's a little bit gat" is relevant. |
| 16:52.56 | alestane | bay* |
| 16:52.58 | alestane | gay* |
| 16:53.01 | malreth | NightHawkTheSane: you're starting to touch on what i find most disturbing about female taurens |
| 16:53.03 | alestane | can spell, really. |
| 16:53.13 | NightHawkTheSane | malreth: http://www.inktank.com/2010/06/07/bovine-inspiration/ |
| 16:54.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: i probably shouldn't look at that while i'm at work... |
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| 16:54.34 | alestane | Although Ron's routine is somewhat mistitled. The attraction he describes is not so much homoerotic as it is vicarious autoeroticism. |
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| 16:55.26 | Lunessa | And you know what rules? Coming to work to find that one of your favorite people on campus has brought you a sourdough baguette and banana bread - freshly baked. |
| 16:55.44 | NightHawkTheSane | sweet deal |
| 16:56.03 | NightHawkTheSane | i'd kick a small puppy for banana bread. |
| 16:56.26 | Lopeppeppy | ... |
| 16:56.28 | Lopeppeppy | So would I. |
| 16:56.40 | Lunessa | This professor is a sweet little old lady with a raunchy sense of humor and mean baking skills. |
| 16:57.00 | NightHawkTheSane | awesome :) |
| 16:57.05 | Lunessa | And an office filing system that works in sedimentary layers. |
| 16:57.12 | Lopeppeppy | eats another rice cake. |
| 16:57.15 | cog|work | i've come to the conclusion that all but the most sheltered sweet little old ladies have raunchy senses of humor |
| 16:57.37 | Lunessa | cog|work: she's not sheltered. |
| 16:57.49 | Lunessa | She's just hilarious. |
| 16:57.54 | Lopeppeppy | works at a college = exposed! |
| 16:58.03 | NightHawkTheSane | well, you live that long, you probably see/hear/experience a lot of crap, and hey, what do you care about offending anyone, you're ancient as fuck! |
| 16:58.07 | alestane | sends Lopeppeppy shoe-stringed beef pan-tossed with french-cut green beans and slivered almonds. |
| 16:59.15 | Fisker | hey cog|work |
| 16:59.16 | Lopeppeppy | I can eat those things. |
| 16:59.24 | alestane | Exunctly! |
| 17:00.05 | eidolarr | the link on this page is broken: http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=21466 |
| 17:00.06 | Seerah | Lopeppeppy: that's probably better than by leftover beef fried rice. but I'd share |
| 17:00.13 | eidolarr | where can i get the base ui code? |
| 17:00.20 | alestane | ~framexml |
| 17:00.21 | purl | Official: (Mac) http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/AddOnKit.dmg, (Win) http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/AddOnKit.zip. Compare: http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser |
| 17:00.27 | Lopeppeppy | I can't have X fried rice -- the soy sauce is badness. |
| 17:00.42 | eidolarr | yes that link is broken |
| 17:00.55 | alestane | That too, but I was looking for the wowprogramming FrameXML browser. |
| 17:01.06 | alestane | Ah, and it's there. |
| 17:01.12 | alestane | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:01.17 | eidolarr | yeah but i want to grep around =) |
| 17:01.28 | Ackis | http://www.aurorafleet.com/ <-- is that web page from the 90s? |
| 17:01.44 | eidolarr | is it possible that it's down because of tues maint somehow? |
| 17:02.00 | Seerah | Ackis: no, silly. "AURORA FLEET FOUNDED ON 14 OCTOBER 2007" |
| 17:02.19 | eidolarr | Ackis: idk the text isn't acid green |
| 17:02.22 | cog|work | eidolarr: that wouldn't really make sense |
| 17:02.32 | Ackis | Seerah: the animated gifs kinda made me think it was from the 90s |
| 17:02.35 | Seerah | eidolarr: perhaps... I thought I just downloaded that a few weeks ago |
| 17:02.41 | alestane | http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=21466 |
| 17:02.50 | cog|work | http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=21466 |
| 17:02.55 | cog|work | links are broken |
| 17:02.56 | eidolarr | are you able to download? |
| 17:02.59 | cog|work | i said "no it's not helpful" |
| 17:03.05 | eidolarr | yes me either |
| 17:03.41 | alestane | However, that's the regular acquisition point. |
| 17:03.57 | alestane | I know I got it there a couple weeks ago. |
| 17:04.00 | Fisker | hey alestane |
| 17:04.09 | alestane | Say hey, Fisker. |
| 17:05.02 | eidolarr | alestane: if it's current can you tar it and host it somewhere for a little? |
| 17:05.27 | alestane | It's about 2mb...I could probably email it to an address. |
| 17:05.49 | cog|work | eidolarr: pc or mac? |
| 17:06.00 | alestane | Ah, good point. |
| 17:06.18 | alestane | I only have the Mac verion handy IIRC. |
| 17:06.23 | cog|work | pc version: http://cogwheel.info/upload/files/AddOn%20Kit.exe |
| 17:06.36 | eidolarr | thank you very much |
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| 17:21.23 | Fisker | slaps cog|work around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:23.04 | Fisker | i saw the sun |
| 17:23.32 | alestane | And it opened up your eyes? |
| 17:23.48 | Fisker | naw |
| 17:23.52 | Fisker | that was the sign i think |
| 17:25.50 | sylvanaar_atwork | Fisker is correct |
| 17:25.59 | sylvanaar_atwork | if it is 1995 |
| 17:26.19 | sylvanaar_atwork | s/5/3/ |
| 17:27.01 | Fisker | hey Antiarc |
| 17:27.04 | Fisker | ~seen Antiarc |
| 17:27.06 | purl | antiarc is currently on #wowuidev (9h 17m 4s) #wowace (9h 17m 4s) #curseforge (9h 17m 4s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 9h 3m 14s, last said: 'Hm?'. |
| 17:28.24 | alestane | Good morning, Cairenn. |
| 17:28.30 | Cairenn | hi alestane |
| 17:28.40 | alestane | Feeling better today? |
| 17:28.49 | Cairenn | a bit, yeah |
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| 17:28.57 | Cairenn | at least I'm not hung over today :p |
| 17:29.04 | Seerah | :D |
| 17:29.13 | cog|work | ~hug Cairenn |
| 17:29.14 | purl | ACTION hugs Cairenn tightly until Cairenn turns slightly blue |
| 17:29.47 | Fisker | ~whalenuke Cairenn |
| 17:29.48 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Cairenn with his mind powers. |
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| 17:30.20 | Ackis | lol |
| 17:30.24 | malreth | purl seems confused about its gender |
| 17:30.26 | malreth | purl, gender |
| 17:30.27 | purl | I'm male |
| 17:30.35 | malreth | purl, are you sure? |
| 17:30.37 | alestane | Nuh-uh! |
| 17:30.50 | nicoli_s | purl could be tranny |
| 17:30.51 | FiskersMom | Fisker: my friends are over for a pool party. Won't you come put sun tan lotion on us? http://www.dinmor.net/gallery/dinmor_oghendessoestre.jpg |
| 17:32.15 | alestane | Okay, LimeChat *seriously* needs a way to hide thumbnails. |
| 17:32.22 | Dagmar | hahah |
| 17:32.28 | nicoli_s | i feel like we had this conversation yesterday |
| 17:32.37 | nicoli_s | and now i know not to click that link |
| 17:32.40 | cog|work | XD |
| 17:32.47 | Dashkal | You ne4eded warning? :P |
| 17:33.03 | Seerah | I did :( |
| 17:33.07 | Seerah | where was it? |
| 17:33.07 | malreth | those chicks could easily take on multiple guys |
| 17:33.14 | Lopeppeppy | lurvs Cairenn. |
| 17:33.47 | Lopeppeppy | If that's NSFW, make sure you warn us! I have cranky HR types at my school, rawr. |
| 17:34.16 | alestane | I don't think it matters if you're at work or not... |
| 17:34.35 | Ackis | I think the fact that it was linked from FiskersMom makes it NSFW |
| 17:34.45 | Lopeppeppy | ... true, true. |
| 17:34.50 | alestane | I have it filed under NSFB. |
| 17:35.08 | malreth | alestane: Not Safe For Bacon? |
| 17:35.21 | FiskersMom | FISKER! My bunyon needs your sweet lips to soothe it |
| 17:35.45 | alestane | Not Safe for Brain, malreth. |
| 17:36.10 | malreth | based on that picture, bacon has more to worry from those girls than your brain |
| 17:36.42 | Lopeppeppy | does bacon worry? |
| 17:36.53 | malreth | bacon feels pain |
| 17:37.03 | Dashkal | "FiskersMom". all the warnign I needed. I clicked anyway, but then I just had it comming |
| 17:37.07 | malreth | i feel bacon's pain |
| 17:37.44 | Lopeppeppy | I want bacon. |
| 17:38.09 | malreth | "let me make it all better, bacon" i say in a loving tone as i brush my lips across it's fatty sides |
| 17:39.15 | Lunessa | Oh sweet sweet bacon, how your fatty goodness makes me salivate. |
| 17:39.51 | malreth | damn it... if mr. thomas doesn't text back soon about lunch, i'm gonna eat my desk! |
| 17:40.31 | Lunessa | malreth: tell him that every moment of delay is another martini. |
| 17:40.50 | malreth | i'm only allowed one drink during work hours |
| 17:41.11 | Lunessa | Better make it a fishbowl full of "punch" then. |
| 17:41.29 | malreth | the rules don't state how big the drink can be |
| 17:42.06 | Lunessa | And a bacon sandwich. |
| 17:42.11 | Dashkal | http://beerbeer.org/image/2008/places/Brussel/brussel-04.jpg |
| 17:43.07 | malreth | his liver must cry itself to sleep at night |
| 17:43.35 | Cairenn | lurvs Lopeppeppy |
| 17:43.50 | malreth | if you love her so much, why don't you just marry her? |
| 17:44.16 | Lunessa | http://blizzcon.norganna.org/main.php/v/blizzcon2008/Faces/Lopeppeppy-Cairenn.jpg.html |
| 17:44.28 | Cairenn | and lightpole! |
| 17:44.35 | Cairenn | sheesh |
| 17:44.50 | Lopeppeppy | malreth, I'm much more into casual flings these days, Cairenn understands this phase of mine. |
| 17:45.01 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2010/06/for_the_ladies_comic_inspired.php |
| 17:45.03 | Cairenn | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 17:45.05 | alestane | Ah, redheads. |
| 17:45.07 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, that is a *craptastic* picture of me. Holy hellfire. |
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| 17:45.12 | Cairenn | and of me |
| 17:45.24 | Cairenn | morning MoonWitch |
| 17:46.15 | malreth | you girls look adorable |
| 17:46.50 | Cairenn | that's sweet malreth, thank you (don't happen to agree with you, at least about myself, but thank you anyway :) ) |
| 17:46.53 | alestane | We must have a picture of Cairenn somwhere that isn't wearing sunglasses. |
| 17:47.00 | Cairenn | lol |
| 17:47.04 | Ackis | ATTACK OF THE GINGERS! HIDE!!! |
| 17:47.13 | Ackis | I'm going to my corner now |
| 17:47.17 | alestane | That doesn't help the pictures, I'm afraid dear. |
| 17:47.38 | Adys | I need some feedback guys |
| 17:47.41 | Adys | http://www.pastethat.com/media/files/2010/06/08/bluelinks.png |
| 17:47.44 | Cairenn | sure it does - anything that helps hide my face helps the pictures |
| 17:47.45 | Adys | on the link colors only |
| 17:47.49 | Adys | not the rest of the screenshot |
| 17:47.56 | nicoli_s | i hate the border |
| 17:47.59 | Cairenn | and definitely helps the cameras |
| 17:48.02 | nicoli_s | and the buttons |
| 17:48.08 | Adys | ~nicoli_s-- |
| 17:48.09 | Lopeppeppy | Adys, I can't tell if anything has been clicked or not. |
| 17:48.12 | alestane | Helps them not get broken? |
| 17:48.16 | nicoli_s | sorry adys i couldnt resist :P |
| 17:48.18 | Adys | Lopeppeppy, none have been clicked |
| 17:48.23 | Cairenn | alestane: precisely! |
| 17:48.27 | FiskersMom | FISKER! |
| 17:48.28 | Dagmar | Needs more <BLINK> tags. |
| 17:48.29 | Lopeppeppy | Show me a screenie with some clicked, please? |
| 17:48.34 | nicoli_s | it does look like the clicked style adys |
| 17:48.39 | Dagmar | ...maybe some <MARQUEE> action as well. |
| 17:48.41 | Adys | Lopeppeppy, playing with colors atm, but clicked would just be a lot more pale |
| 17:48.49 | Fisker | sup FiskersMom |
| 17:48.57 | Adys | maybe something like dead salt |
| 17:49.03 | Lopeppeppy | 'cause what nicoli_s says is true. I would guess they had all been clicked. You need to make sure the "clicked" color is different enough to stand out. |
| 17:49.20 | Adys | Well yeah |
| 17:49.27 | Adys | My main issue is |
| 17:49.32 | Adys | does the blue "fit" the page? |
| 17:49.36 | Dagmar | OH yeah |
| 17:49.42 | theorbtwo | I think it fits quite well. |
| 17:49.43 | mikma | antiarc: HudMap ping arrow bugs in instances (that's cause coords don't exist in old instances?) |
| 17:49.43 | alestane | See, looking happy and confident does wonders for how pictures come out. Pictures that look like "OMG NO PHOTOS" never show people at their best. |
| 17:49.46 | Kalroth | Adys: im totally buying you this http://gizmodo.com/5558039/luke-im-your-mother |
| 17:49.51 | Cide | Adys, it looks good |
| 17:50.02 | foxlit | The color is fine. |
| 17:50.15 | theorbtwo | OTOH, I'm a traditionallist and want to see links underlined, though in this specific instance it's probably OK. |
| 17:50.22 | foxlit | Use bolding to indicate whether the topic contains new posts. |
| 17:50.22 | Adys | Kalroth 1st one's hot. |
| 17:50.26 | Adys | sorta |
| 17:50.48 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: It might not be your favorite image but it was the only one I knew of with just you two in it. |
| 17:51.03 | Cairenn | huggles Lunessa |
| 17:51.17 | Lopeppeppy | True, Lunessa. I need to photoshop you a new one! |
| 17:51.35 | Lunessa | goes to his happy palce. |
| 17:51.38 | Dagmar | Better wording: "...the only one I knew of with just you two dressed in it." |
| 17:51.48 | eidolarr | why does CreateFrame automatically create a global variable? |
| 17:51.53 | alestane | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/06/07/funny-pictures-feline-philosophy-8/ |
| 17:52.05 | Lunessa | Frames are all referenced by a global |
| 17:52.06 | FiskersMom | Fisker: i need relief. come home. |
| 17:52.11 | alestane | Because that's how frames are typically referenced, eidolarr. |
| 17:52.14 | foxlit | because this "nothing in _G" obsession is unhealthy |
| 17:52.24 | alestane | Supply nil for the name if you don't want it to. |
| 17:52.33 | eidolarr | but then it has no name =) |
| 17:52.53 | eidolarr | I mean, why wouldn't you just say globalReference = CreateFrame(bleh) if you wanted that? |
| 17:53.05 | eidolarr | is there a profound reason or is that just how it works? |
| 17:53.16 | Lunessa | foxlit: I prefer "nothing unnecessary in _G, and certainly nothing with generic names" |
| 17:53.24 | alestane | Well, since the only thing the name is used for is finding subframes, it's not very useful to make a frame with a name that's not a global reference. |
| 17:53.38 | alestane | As it happens, I agree with you though. |
| 17:53.49 | eidolarr | well if I give it a name and you mouseover it with say devtools, you get a useful label |
| 17:53.54 | eidolarr | err weird pronouns there |
| 17:54.20 | alestane | Frames should have a reference value which can be any Lua value, rather than a fixed global reference IMO. |
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| 17:54.55 | alestane | But since most of them are created via XML in the stock UI, it's important that they get global references automatically. |
| 17:55.34 | alestane | Otherwise they would all need [[_G[self:GetName()] = self;]] in their OnLoad. |
| 17:55.44 | eidolarr | it seems like they could have made that an XML feature and not necessarily CreateFrame |
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| 17:55.56 | alestane | CreateFrame didn't exist until 1.10 or so. |
| 17:56.03 | eidolarr | yeah that's what I was thinking |
| 17:56.14 | eidolarr | does Blizzard use it? |
| 17:56.29 | nevcairiel | yes, but not much |
| 17:56.32 | eidolarr | yeah all oevr the place |
| 17:56.41 | nevcairiel | their main UI is all xml |
| 17:56.41 | Lunessa | Mostly, they love them some XML |
| 17:56.43 | alestane | I suspect that they just reused whatever code was invoked by the XML, which probably sets _G automatically. |
| 17:56.47 | nevcairiel | they use createframe for dynamic parts |
| 17:57.16 | eidolarr | i'm getting 70 times but i guess that's not a lot for the whole ui |
| 17:57.35 | eidolarr | do they use some sort of autogeneration tool for their gui stuff or is it hand crafted? |
| 17:57.51 | Dagmar | They're probably using something like Glade |
| 17:58.01 | alestane | And some of those are frames specifically used for "private" implementations like the castsequence manager or the state driver. |
| 17:58.12 | Dagmar | ...and it's not like you're not allowed to hand-write XML. |
| 17:58.30 | eidolarr | yeah that's what I was asking |
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| 17:59.10 | eidolarr | alestane: they actually don't appear to create any nameless frames with CreateFrame at first glance |
| 17:59.16 | nevcairiel | They have a proper schema for their xml, with a good xml editor its really alot easier then hand-writing :d |
| 17:59.25 | cog|work | ^ |
| 17:59.39 | alestane | ChatFrame.lua and SecureStateDriver.lua should both have at least one. |
| 17:59.39 | cog|work | i think the main reason people don't like xml is 'cause they've never used a really good schema-aware editor |
| 17:59.54 | Dagmar | o.O |
| 17:59.55 | nevcairiel | eclipse can actually even do that properly |
| 18:00.00 | nevcairiel | auto-completion and all |
| 18:00.07 | cog|work | is it context-sensitive? |
| 18:00.16 | eidolarr | ah ChatFrame does |
| 18:00.19 | alestane | Lots of verbose technologies become easier when you have Intellisense. |
| 18:00.20 | eidolarr | not secure state driver |
| 18:00.24 | nevcairiel | yeah, it knows which element is currently possible |
| 18:00.53 | nevcairiel | not sure if thats teh vanilla xml editor in there, or some plugin that came with the webdev thing i use |
| 18:00.54 | nevcairiel | but shrug |
| 18:00.56 | nevcairiel | it works! |
| 18:01.01 | alestane | Oh right, they name that one since it's protected. |
| 18:01.04 | Dagmar | I'll betcha the people complaining about XML don't actually know what purpose the schema serves |
| 18:01.49 | Lunessa | And... SBO wrote a validator too. :P http://dev.averageurl.com/wow/xml/ |
| 18:01.57 | Dagmar | I can't think of any other logical reason why someone might _not_ like XML |
| 18:02.00 | eidolarr | i have been meaning to play with nxml-mode |
| 18:02.23 | cog|work | nevcairiel: when i wrote the guide for setting up visual studio express (back when 2005 versions were current) they were the only freely available editors that did that |
| 18:02.24 | eidolarr | Dagmar: probably like me they don't understand it that well :P |
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| 18:02.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: languages that have/had poor xml functions can make it a pain to work with :P |
| 18:02.53 | NightHawkTheSane | but thats not really a reason to hate xml |
| 18:02.58 | nevcairiel | I dont like xml because its so verbose |
| 18:03.13 | nevcairiel | so much metadata |
| 18:03.20 | eidolarr | Dagmar: i'm not completely clear on all the ways the xml connects with the lua |
| 18:03.29 | alestane | I don't have a problem with XML, but it seems to me like they could have leveraged Lua's power as a data-description language instead of including a separate parallel framework. |
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| 18:04.46 | malreth | alestane: describe the UI with tables? |
| 18:04.51 | nevcairiel | I bet they already had the xml ui thing from a previous game |
| 18:05.08 | alestane | Or well-named methods. |
| 18:05.16 | eidolarr | nevcairiel: yeah I would guess WC3 |
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| 18:06.01 | Dagmar | eidolarr: The thing you need to know is that it doesn't "connect". XML is just a way to make it trivially easy for you to write a data-structure that can be sucked up into a program. |
| 18:06.15 | mikma | http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/2117/1275938801995.jpg |
| 18:06.40 | malreth | mikma: :( |
| 18:06.47 | Dagmar | Being that there are like... fifteen jillion different things people have come up with in the past for taking data and making it "easy" for their program to parse, it's about bloody time folks started using *one* damn library to do it |
| 18:06.56 | eidolarr | Dagmar: I don't know all the details of how it's sucked up, like I don't completely understand the blocks in <OnLoad> or <OnEvent> tags |
| 18:07.00 | alestane | XML is basically a front-end. |
| 18:07.10 | cog|work | eidolarr: that's nothing to do with the xml |
| 18:07.15 | krka | weird, i just got g-lined from quakenet with AUTO: Service impersonation. anyone know what could have caused that? |
| 18:07.25 | nevcairiel | krka: you named yourself Q? |
| 18:07.25 | Dagmar | eidolarr: Fancy names for "bits that generate subroutine refernces" |
| 18:07.29 | cog|work | if you don't understand those, then you don't understand SetScript or RegisterEvent |
| 18:07.31 | krka | nope |
| 18:07.38 | krka | same name as always, just "krka" |
| 18:08.31 | cog|work | <OnLoad>blah</OnLoad> is functionally identical to SetScript("OnLoad", function(self) blah end) |
| 18:08.47 | alestane | Except that one is useful, cog|work. |
| 18:08.53 | cog|work | well yeah |
| 18:08.57 | cog|work | wtb CreateTemplate |
| 18:09.06 | eidolarr | cog|work: yeah except for the places it's not |
| 18:09.08 | cog|work | or a virtual flage for CreateFRame |
| 18:09.36 | cog|work | eidolarr: no, it is identical. it's just that OnLoad itself is meaningless since it's called during CreateFrame |
| 18:09.38 | eidolarr | what file-local scope would an XML handler have? how would you get the arguments? these are easy questions, but they're deviations from the rest of lua that i don't see why i would want to muck with |
| 18:09.55 | cog|work | they're not deviations from lua |
| 18:10.00 | cog|work | they're different contexts |
| 18:10.04 | Dagmar | eidolarr: They're the entirely wrong questions to ask |
| 18:10.08 | eidolarr | deviation is a bad word |
| 18:10.09 | Dagmar | XML ain't that damn complex |
| 18:10.16 | eidolarr | but they're "hmmms..." to think about |
| 18:10.22 | alestane | Sadly, arguments to XML scripts have to be looked up. |
| 18:10.29 | Dagmar | Literally it's *just* a mechanism for populating a complex data-structure |
| 18:10.30 | eidolarr | Dagmar: it's not really the XML that is confusing, it's how lua eats it |
| 18:10.42 | cog|work | lua doesn't eat it. the game engine eats it |
| 18:10.48 | eidolarr | well fine |
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| 18:10.55 | nevcairiel | the xml script handlers just get a lua function header patched on top and parsed as lua |
| 18:10.55 | alestane | Locals are local to the chunk, just like always, which is the contents of the XML tag. |
| 18:10.58 | eidolarr | it's not even really confusing, it's just got its kinks |
| 18:11.02 | nevcairiel | no file locals |
| 18:11.13 | Dagmar | More properly, the xml library eats it, and then spits out a single, delicately little entry into the data structure it's created for you |
| 18:11.27 | Dagmar | s/delicately/delicate/ |
| 18:12.26 | eidolarr | i guess the point i'm trying to make is that for someone who already understands how to do things with Lua, some things' analogs are not immediately obvious in XML, and it's also not clear what you stand to gain by learning/using it |
| 18:12.31 | eidolarr | if that makes any sense |
| 18:12.52 | Dagmar | I supposed you'd have to have spent years unraveling WTF goes on in other people's parsers before you really begin to appreciate it |
| 18:13.25 | eidolarr | yeah probably if i actually needed a data format i would use xml |
| 18:13.29 | Dagmar | eidolarr: All the code aside, your objective for doing it in lua and doing it in XML is still the same thing: The goal is to create a data structure |
| 18:13.46 | eidolarr | but in the context of wow, that would be my answer to "why don't people use XML more for wow?" |
| 18:13.49 | cog|work | eidolarr: the point of XML is to separate UI description from behavior |
| 18:13.59 | Lunessa | All you kids who never had to work in strongly typed languages... |
| 18:14.15 | cog|work | eidolarr: my answer to that would be "because they're too lazy to learn two things when they really only 'need' one" |
| 18:14.20 | nevcairiel | eidolarr: because people don't have proper xml editors, and without .. xml is painful |
| 18:14.38 | Dagmar | eidolarr: Data structures typically don't "do" much |
| 18:14.42 | krka | writing it in xml tends to lead to duplication |
| 18:14.43 | eidolarr | cog|work: how would you incorporate thinsg like OnUpdate handlers into "description vs behavior" ? |
| 18:15.07 | nevcairiel | Call MyFrame_OnUpdate in the xml handler, have that func hidden in the lua file |
| 18:15.08 | Dagmar | You need an actual language with like, verbs and stuff to go with it |
| 18:15.09 | nevcairiel | seperated |
| 18:15.10 | cog|work | the scripts are the bindings between the layout and the behavior |
| 18:15.11 | krka | actually, i think my first draft of AutoTravel had a script to generate xml |
| 18:15.20 | krka | since that was the only way to create a buffer of points for the graph |
| 18:15.21 | Dagmar | ...because XML is _just_ for creating a data structure and that's _all_ |
| 18:15.45 | cog|work | Dagmar: join us in a higher level of abstraction plox |
| 18:16.06 | eidolarr | so if someone puts a lot of Lua into their XML files they're sort of wasting its strengths? |
| 18:16.12 | eidolarr | oh can you get the addon-local scope in xml? |
| 18:16.24 | nevcairiel | there is no addon-local scope |
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| 18:16.28 | cog|work | first question: absolutely |
| 18:16.33 | cog|work | second question: no |
| 18:16.34 | eidolarr | whatever yuo call it |
| 18:16.39 | eidolarr | oh rats |
| 18:16.47 | eidolarr | that could be neat |
| 18:17.21 | krka | hm, don't the xml bound code also pass in the local addon table? |
| 18:17.34 | nevcairiel | how would it get that? |
| 18:17.41 | nevcairiel | it gets passed into the file scope |
| 18:17.42 | eidolarr | it's wrapped in another block so probably not? |
| 18:18.37 | eidolarr | the behavior vs description thing is profound, i must meditate on it |
| 18:18.41 | eidolarr | thanks for all the insight |
| 18:19.21 | cog|work | that and it's declarative vs. imperative. XML's code structure matches the UI model directly |
| 18:19.38 | cog|work | whereas with Lua you're telling the computer to take specific steps to assemble the UI |
| 18:20.06 | Lunessa | Man I love when people try to social engineer me into giving them access to something... "I'm sorry, I need photo id. Come on up." |
| 18:20.22 | Lunessa | Amazing how they don't need access anymore... |
| 18:21.34 | cog|work | Of course, all of these benefits could've been achieved with Lua tables as well, but that would've taken a bit more foresight (esp since the early development of WoW was with Lua 4.0) |
| 18:21.59 | Dagmar | Lunessa: What'd they want access to? |
| 18:22.28 | eidolarr | cog|work: has anyone made a library for changing lua tables into gui elements? |
| 18:22.39 | Lunessa | An account. Someone's login. |
| 18:23.27 | eidolarr | the closest thing i know is aceoptions data table |
| 18:23.29 | cog|work | eidolarr: i think Cide had one |
| 18:23.38 | cog|work | though it was very terse |
| 18:24.03 | eidolarr | it doesn't seem like that hard a thing to do |
| 18:24.04 | cog|work | and i might be thinking of someone else... it's been years |
| 18:24.24 | nevcairiel | not hard |
| 18:24.31 | haste_ | sioraiocht: http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs569.snc3/31053_10150201853550217_790680216_12601443_5954141_n.jpg |
| 18:24.31 | nevcairiel | but alot of work for very little gain |
| 18:26.32 | Dagmar | Lunessa: Truly sad. If that happens often you should pop a few people by giving them bogus credentials and notifying security |
| 18:26.48 | Cide | I have one yes |
| 18:26.51 | Cide | and it's amazingly awesome |
| 18:27.05 | Cide | ^ unbiased opinion |
| 18:27.07 | eidolarr | is it publicly available? |
| 18:27.08 | malreth | it is. i've seen it. |
| 18:27.15 | malreth | Cide showed it to me last night. |
| 18:27.16 | Dagmar | Lunessa: Or... depending on how sure you are it's someone screwing around, make up phony username/pass information just to piss them off |
| 18:27.20 | Cide | sure, just download any ctmod and CT_Library.lua contains it |
| 18:27.23 | malreth | It was... Inspiring. |
| 18:27.24 | Cide | of course, it's undocumented |
| 18:27.37 | malreth | undocumented and very... fulfilling. |
| 18:27.46 | malreth | smiles at Cide |
| 18:27.53 | Cide | oh yes |
| 18:28.03 | Dagmar | Lunessa: Twice I have gotten someone calling over here like that. Both times I've just made stuff up, hoping I can convince them to come in to "annoy the incompetent analyst" in person |
| 18:28.10 | malreth | go to lunch |
| 18:28.24 | Dagmar | ...at which point I push the lockdown button. |
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| 18:36.48 | MoonWitch | Seerah: ping |
| 18:36.54 | Seerah | pong |
| 18:36.56 | MoonWitch | yay |
| 18:38.33 | Lunessa | Dagmar: I make the come to my office with photo id. That's usually pretty fun because suddenly they don't need access or the come up and try to talk me into giving them access without the id... and I hand them over to a police office. |
| 18:38.36 | Lunessa | officer. |
| 18:38.47 | Dagmar | Ali Veshi: "Just not the same since Dangermouse retired" |
| 18:38.55 | Dagmar | !@#!@# wrong channel |
| 18:39.17 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 18:39.22 | nicoli_s | and dangermouse didnt retire |
| 18:39.27 | Dagmar | Lunessa: Oh good... Sounds like you guys actually have a plan in place. I just annoy social engineers of my own volition |
| 18:39.30 | nicoli_s | hes still makin good music |
| 18:39.46 | Dagmar | nicoli: I wasn't talking about the band |
| 18:39.51 | nicoli_s | o |
| 18:39.55 | Lunessa | Dagmar: I'm just cruel. And I'm buddies with most of the ranking cops on campus. |
| 18:40.06 | nicoli_s | dangermouse is a guy not a band btw :P |
| 18:40.14 | Dagmar | Lunessa: I'm cruel, too! |
| 18:40.37 | Dagmar | We just have no formal plan because we're not even the department such queries are supposed to go to |
| 18:40.46 | Dagmar | If they come to me, they're already making huge mistakes |
| 18:40.58 | Dagmar | nicoli_s: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danger_Mouse_%28TV_series%29 |
| 18:41.04 | nicoli_s | Dagmar:where do i send "Select * From users" do you get those queries? |
| 18:41.31 | nicoli_s | sorry couldnt resist my cheesy sql humor |
| 18:41.33 | Dagmar | nicoli_s: If you look on the artwork there and know who Ali Velshi is, I bet you can spot what I'm talking about |
| 18:41.53 | nicoli_s | i have no clue who that is sorry |
| 18:42.02 | Dagmar | I'll find a picture. He's a CNN anchor |
| 18:42.27 | nicoli_s | lol they had a spinoff called count duckula? lol |
| 18:43.43 | Dagmar | Damnit none of these pics show his solid black-framed glasses http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Y_MjTFQ3m8g/SoC7xTUbFmI/AAAAAAAAESU/TE9a70eD4LU/s400/ali+5.jpg |
| 18:44.01 | Cide | eidolarr, anyway, the library is pretty sweet if you do a lot of gui work and feel like learning to use it |
| 18:44.08 | Cide | it kept me from going insane |
| 18:44.52 | Dagmar | ...and now Penfold, which is apparently Ali's "cartooning name" http://mouthofstevo.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/penfold.jpg |
| 18:45.17 | Dagmar | There is just a serious, serious resemblance |
| 18:46.08 | Dagmar | If Velshi said "Cor..." just once in a broadcast I'd fall out |
| 18:47.16 | eidolarr | Cide: is it easily extricable? |
| 18:47.37 | nicoli_s | i do see the similarities |
| 18:47.52 | nicoli_s | both of them appear to be moles of some sort |
| 18:47.56 | Dagmar | Yep. |
| 18:48.24 | Dagmar | Velshi's actually a pretty decent talking head, which makes it even more hilarious that he's the spitting image of that cartoon character |
| 18:48.47 | Cide | it's pretty simple |
| 18:48.56 | Cide | a frame is defined through either a table entry or a table key |
| 18:48.58 | Dagmar | If I didn't know any better I'd suspect it even has something to do with why he went to using these narrower, more translucent glasses frames |
| 18:49.07 | Cide | and then there are a series of attributes separated by # |
| 18:49.29 | Dagmar | When he first started getting reasonable amounts of airtime on CNN his lenses were oval, and opaque black |
| 18:49.41 | Cide | "frame#s:300:200#t:0:0" defines a frame with size 300x200 and anchored to the top with offsets 0,0 |
| 18:50.23 | eidolarr | why did you choose to do that instead of using tables? |
| 18:50.30 | Dagmar | eidolarr: ...and as "space-efficient" as that notation may be, it's an excellent example of the sort of weeds XML chops down |
| 18:50.39 | cog|work | 11:23 < cog|work> though it was very terse |
| 18:50.40 | Cide | Dagmar, what? |
| 18:50.59 | Cide | eidolarr, the whole point is to make it fast to create frames |
| 18:51.05 | Cide | tables are used for parent-child relationships |
| 18:51.21 | eidolarr | ok i'll have to look at it more closely |
| 18:51.26 | eidolarr | I mean why not like |
| 18:51.42 | Cide | ["frame#s:300:200#t:0:0"] = { "frame#s:100:200#l:0:0", "frame#s:200:200#r:0:0" } |
| 18:51.47 | eidolarr | frame = { type = "Button", height = "10", ... } |
| 18:51.49 | Cide | creates two children frames |
| 18:51.54 | Dagmar | Cide: Just pointing out something I'm not convinced eidolarr quite "got" earier with respect to why having XML around is way more important than simply requiring people to learn yet another method for notation |
| 18:52.24 | Cide | my method of notation is imo superior to any other I've seen, including xml |
| 18:52.28 | Cide | for my purposes naturally |
| 18:52.42 | Cide | eidolarr, because that STILL takes forever to design a large gui |
| 18:52.56 | Cide | you might as well use xml at that point |
| 18:53.09 | cog|work | where you get a full schema to work with, no less :) |
| 18:53.31 | Cide | and by forever it's way too wordy |
| 18:53.46 | Cide | s/forever/forever I mean/ |
| 18:53.59 | Dagmar | Superior or not, I don't know. What I do know is that of the many, many ways people have come up with to declare something that just gets turned into a complex data structure, XML works because there's generally plenty of syntactic sugar |
| 18:54.07 | eidolarr | what's an example of a "large gui"? |
| 18:54.26 | cog|work | the paper doll frame |
| 18:54.27 | Cide | shrug |
| 18:54.33 | Cide | or the ct_raidassist options frame |
| 18:54.40 | Cide | or the ctmod control panel but less so |
| 18:54.50 | Cide | afk |
| 18:54.56 | eidolarr | ok I will play with it |
| 18:54.59 | Dagmar | For god's sake there was even an entire project called the dotfile generator just to try to help admins cope with the sheer number of cockeyed hackups software devs had written so they could each configure their own little programs |
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| 18:57.07 | Dagmar | I s'pose it's possible one has to have spent a lot of time using languages which don't have support for complex data structures (or even doubly-linked lists) before you really begin to appreciate such things |
| 18:57.31 | nevcairiel | So you invent those structures in the language |
| 18:57.33 | nevcairiel | :) |
| 18:57.39 | Dagmar | Hahah |
| 18:57.43 | Dagmar | You say this thing... |
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| 18:57.58 | Dagmar | "You just scoot the Pyramid a few inches to the left is all" |
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| 19:04.05 | Fisker | nevcairiel |
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| 19:05.18 | xanax` | hello |
| 19:08.28 | Seerah | hello, xanax` |
| 19:08.41 | xanax` | :-) |
| 19:09.16 | xanax` | where can I know all attributes of <level="..."> ? |
| 19:09.44 | xanax` | ARTWORK, BACKGROUND... i would like to know them all and their meanings, when to use them |
| 19:10.35 | Dagmar | xanax: Google -> level ARTWORK BACKGROUND wow |
| 19:10.38 | Seerah | http://www.wowwiki.com/XML/Frame |
| 19:11.06 | xanax` | thanks |
| 19:11.13 | Ackis | http://www.holyjuan.com/ |
| 19:11.23 | Ackis | http://www.mapservices.org/myguestmap/map/VirginityMap |
| 19:11.45 | Ackis | http://imgur.com/WDqCe.jpg <-- going to hell for laughing at thta |
| 19:12.23 | nicoli_s | haha ill join the club going to hell for laughing at that |
| 19:12.26 | Slackwise | xanax`: http://github.com/tekkub/wow-ui-source/blob/master/FrameXML/UI.xsd |
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| 19:14.09 | Slackwise | xanax`: Lines 30 to 38 as per the definition of the elements using the attribute named "level". |
| 19:14.36 | Ackis | "Torhal is in a relationship." first comment under it "I'm very happy for Ackis and you!" |
| 19:14.47 | Dagmar | You can actually see the answer to the query in the search summary for the first item listed in the Google search |
| 19:15.30 | Torhal | Ackis: You do know that you're a complete douche, right? :D |
| 19:15.43 | cog|work | SQUEE |
| 19:15.51 | Torhal | covers his ears. |
| 19:15.53 | xanax` | ok, Slackwise. thanks |
| 19:16.37 | Dagmar | Of course, nevermind that the bit of answer in the summary is dead wrong |
| 19:16.46 | Ackis | Torhal: I know that, but what did I do now? I didn't make that comment lol |
| 19:16.47 | cog|work | <whisper>sorry torhal ... whisperedsquee</swhisper> |
| 19:17.06 | Lopeppeppy | cog|work, I told you not to fansquee for Twilight in my presence. |
| 19:17.15 | Dagmar | "There are 3 levels of layers" ... then it lists five going from zero to four. *snicker* |
| 19:17.15 | cog|work | Lopeppeppy: home loan: modified |
| 19:17.33 | Lopeppeppy | SQUEEEEE! |
| 19:17.39 | alestane | That's a different sort of squee. |
| 19:17.51 | alestane | Didn't y'all get a house a year or two ago? |
| 19:17.57 | Dagmar | Sounds like the "this barrel has splinters!" squee to me |
| 19:18.12 | cog|work | yeah, and then mrs cog has been unemployed for nearly a year now :( |
| 19:18.22 | cog|work | and my little sister moved in |
| 19:18.30 | cog|work | so we iz poor nao |
| 19:18.45 | alestane | Ugh. So does this loan modification allow you to not worry about failing to meet your obligations? |
| 19:18.54 | alestane | Or at least not worry so much? |
| 19:19.03 | Lopeppeppy | I thought little sister was already moved in? |
| 19:19.24 | cog|work | Lopeppeppy: last august. that's when this stuff started. my christmas bonuses and credit cards have kept us afloat |
| 19:19.40 | alestane | Not so good. |
| 19:19.52 | xanax` | can I have a <layer></layer> before another <layers><layer></layer></layers> ? |
| 19:20.01 | alestane | Credit cards are leaky life jackets. |
| 19:20.23 | alestane | xanax`: All the <layer>s for a single frame should go inside one <layers>. |
| 19:20.25 | cog|work | alestane: yeah, they were last resorts |
| 19:20.33 | xanax` | ok |
| 19:21.08 | cog|work | but yeah, i'm off the hook for the three payments we're behind and get to start the new payment schedule (which is over 25% less than our original payment) next month |
| 19:21.24 | Lopeppeppy | Ooof. That's a big, nice re-organization. *hug* |
| 19:21.31 | alestane | That is indeed excellent news then. |
| 19:21.36 | alestane | You may resume squeeing. |
| 19:21.50 | Dagmar | cog: Holy crap dude--buy lottery tickets now |
| 19:22.05 | alestane | No, use that money to make payments. |
| 19:22.09 | Dagmar | cog: You've no idea how very, very few times banks acutally bothered to lower anyone's anything |
| 19:22.35 | Dagmar | Spending a couple bucks to see if that crazy luck was a one-time thing or part of a run would be worthwhile at this point |
| 19:23.00 | alestane | Dude, you're talking to the guy who just posted a taxonomy of logical fallacies. |
| 19:23.03 | Dagmar | I'm not saying to start buy-ing lottery tickets. If it's a run of luck, just one will do |
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| 19:23.31 | cog|work | Dagmar: i had third-party help |
| 19:27.32 | Dagmar | cog: Well, it's a bank so hiring people to kidnap someone's children is probably karmically okay |
| 19:27.33 | cog|work | http://www.fallacyfiles.org/taxonomy.html (for any curious) |
| 19:30.14 | Fisker | i |
| 19:30.18 | cog|work | j |
| 19:31.37 | batrick | k |
| 19:31.53 | Fisker | l |
| 19:31.56 | cog|work | c |
| 19:31.58 | cog|work | ombobreaker |
| 19:32.23 | batrick | That's not a taxonomy because the graph is not a tree |
| 19:32.38 | foxlit | ontology! |
| 19:33.24 | cog|work | batrick: is that really necessary for the definition of taxonomy? |
| 19:33.27 | Lopeppeppy | Ontology recapitulates phylogeny. |
| 19:33.33 | cog|work | even the tree of life isn't really a tree |
| 19:33.35 | Lopeppeppy | No. Ontogeny. |
| 19:33.45 | batrick | cog|work: I was being ironical. |
| 19:34.05 | batrick | and I'm sure my statement falls somewhere in that taxonomy |
| 19:34.17 | batrick | making it further ironic |
| 19:34.24 | cog|work | needs to check his irony detector |
| 19:34.47 | cog|work | i think it's sensitive to magnetic fields |
| 19:34.58 | cog|work | something here must be shielding it... |
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| 19:37.50 | cog|work | slaps Fisker around a bit with his loan documents |
| 19:38.24 | Fisker | slaps cog|work around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:38.28 | Fisker | why would you do that? |
| 19:39.41 | cog|work | as an insult to the loan docs |
| 19:41.03 | Dagmar | Seriously, for you to get a better deal is almost insanity |
| 19:41.52 | Dagmar | Gov't people were talking about taking legal action against BofA because they took that bailout money with the understanding that they would actually lower some people's payments in order to raise the valuation of their mortgage (because they'd have a better chance to pay it off) |
| 19:42.23 | Dagmar | ...and almost without exception, every bank that took that money changed absolutely nothing about the way they calculated what people would need to pay on their mortgages |
| 19:43.07 | Dagmar | I know personally at least a dozen people who tried to get their loans refinanced just to see, and were unable to get any sort of better terms |
| 19:43.22 | batrick | i blame Dagmar |
| 19:43.26 | cog|work | Dagmar: they'll usually only do modifications for people who are already behind on payments |
| 19:43.46 | Dagmar | cog: Four of these people had been behind, and one of them is now in foreclosure |
| 19:44.02 | Dagmar | I'm about to loan that couple some money myself just to piss off the bank |
| 19:45.04 | cog|work | also, modifications will only work if you can still make enough of a payment that the bank won't actually lose money on the loan. |
| 19:45.52 | Dagmar | Yeah that actually has no bearing on the obvious fact that BofA had decided they were already maximizing their returns with the number of foreclosures they were already expecting |
| 19:45.57 | cog|work | the third party i went through actually helped me cook my bank statements so they would look more appealing to the underwriters >< |
| 19:46.05 | Dagmar | I used to be a clerk for a place that did all the paperwork for this end of term stuff |
| 19:46.11 | cog|work | not with anything fraudulent, mind you, just certain things to look a certain way |
| 19:47.00 | Dagmar | I know very well that a foreclosure is generally going to lose a bank a *lot* more money than them relaxing their fists a little and letting a few nickels slip away |
| 19:47.14 | Dagmar | ...but you'd think they didn't know it from the way they behaved |
| 19:47.54 | Ackis | Dagmar: I was reading a growing trend of people foreclosing and then not moving out, they can hire a law firm which drags out the court process for 2 years or more |
| 19:48.23 | cog|work | yeah, a friend of my uncle is doing that |
| 19:48.25 | Lopeppeppy | cog, statistics are all about presentation. *hug* |
| 19:48.29 | Dagmar | Ackis: Not suprising. In a number of states, so long as someone's actually living there you have almost double the paperwork involved to throw them out |
| 19:48.58 | Dagmar | ...plus banks are really slow to foreclose. The least amount of time you can generally expect anything more than a few angsty letters to happen is three months |
| 19:49.16 | Ackis | Dagmar: part of it involves the high number of foreclosures clogging up the court process |
| 19:49.18 | cog|work | before we bought our house we were renting a place that was foreclosed |
| 19:49.28 | cog|work | we were there for months after the final "get out" date |
| 19:49.31 | Fisker | slaps cog|work around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:50.07 | Dagmar | Ackis: A big part of it is that foreclosures always look like cost-centers, so no one's really in a hurry to fully staff an office so they can lose money faster |
| 19:50.56 | Dagmar | You can be fully in foreclosure, with the sherrif at the door, and some banks will just make it all go away if you can come up with the money to get current |
| 19:51.22 | Dagmar | ...because then the value of that asset doesn't drop by 15% or (usually, and much) more |
| 19:51.38 | NightHawkTheSane | bangs his head on the desk |
| 19:51.52 | Dagmar | I dealt with the paperwork on a lot of prefabricated homes |
| 19:52.07 | Dagmar | Some of those people pretty much turned them into permanent structures |
| 19:52.26 | Dagmar | Some of those people would get pissed at the bank and gut the place and the bank would wind up having to write off the whole thing |
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| 20:02.31 | Lunessa | offers NightHawkTheSane some advil. |
| 20:03.06 | NightHawkTheSane | I'd rather have a drink :P |
| 20:05.25 | sioraiocht | haste: that is HILARIOUS |
| 20:06.44 | haste | sioraiocht: welcome to norways general attitude towards the rest of europe :P |
| 20:07.10 | sioraiocht | haste: I'm perfectly happy to live on the penal colony |
| 20:08.58 | sioraiocht | haste: Also, when you're richer than everyone else, I suppose you don't have to like anyone else =p |
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| 20:11.18 | haste | sioraiocht: yeah, and we tend to think we can solve world hunger and make world peace as well :P |
| 20:11.42 | haste | glares at the Oslo Accords. |
| 20:11.44 | sioraiocht | haste: Welllll, I won't stop you trying! |
| 20:11.56 | sioraiocht | haste: Have I told you I am giong to Iceland for all of July? |
| 20:12.59 | haste | nice, I'm going to Japan all of July :3 |
| 20:13.16 | sioraiocht | wow! |
| 20:13.18 | sioraiocht | For why? |
| 20:13.25 | sioraiocht | Also haste, they will be obsessed with you |
| 20:13.50 | haste | for vacation mostly |
| 20:14.03 | haste | because I can (tm) :3 |
| 20:14.29 | Fisker | slaps haste around a bit with a large trout |
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| 20:14.32 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1PIICmNlH0&feature=player_embedded |
| 20:14.37 | haste | I'd really want to go in august instead tho', so I could attend comiket |
| 20:14.52 | haste | but I guess I'll find something else again like two years ago :P |
| 20:18.22 | jnwhiteh | guys |
| 20:18.25 | jnwhiteh | i shoudl not be allowed drunk on irc. |
| 20:18.37 | cog|work | no |
| 20:18.41 | cog|work | you should be drunk on irc moar |
| 20:18.48 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 20:18.48 | alestane | Among other things, you apparently can't type. |
| 20:18.53 | haste | jnwhiteh: I'm not able to type my users password while smashed (most of the time at least :p) |
| 20:18.55 | cog|work | except in wowprogramming mebbeh |
| 20:19.07 | jnwhiteh | I'M EDITING API DOCS |
| 20:19.11 | jnwhiteh | uhh, sorry caps. |
| 20:19.55 | alestane | Ah well, has gots an in-service to go to. Rumour mill says we get a new program chair...here's hoping. |
| 20:21.07 | jnwhiteh | I should play HoN |
| 20:21.13 | jnwhiteh | that's the only acceptable thing while drunk. |
| 20:21.19 | jnwhiteh | its 9pm. |
| 20:21.20 | jnwhiteh | who am i? |
| 20:21.33 | nicoli_s | the guy who wrote that addon book? |
| 20:21.46 | Lunessa | This fresh bread is sitting on the desk and the smell is so enticing that i'm salivating... I totally want to eat it right now. |
| 20:22.01 | jnwhiteh | mmm i should make break |
| 20:22.08 | jnwhiteh | instead i mininized my irc window |
| 20:22.11 | jnwhiteh | but one step at a time. |
| 20:22.29 | cog|work | My google reader's ratio of fukung images to everything else is directly proportional to jnwhiteh's BAC |
| 20:22.48 | nicoli_s | make break?\ |
| 20:23.06 | jnwhiteh | cog|work: neg |
| 20:23.18 | jnwhiteh | it's proportional to the awesomeness of fukungs random rss feed =) |
| 20:23.59 | jnwhiteh | that was all sober, sadly |
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| 20:24.14 | haste | imgurl's populare image rss sucks :( |
| 20:24.21 | haste | not sure if I want to add fukung |
| 20:24.36 | jnwhiteh | its not bad, not too high activity |
| 20:25.32 | haste | imgurl is like... FIVE then ZERO for ages then FIVE |
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| 20:30.18 | Fisker | impossible haste |
| 20:30.21 | Fisker | I KILLED YOU |
| 20:32.36 | Fisker | omg it's tuesday |
| 20:32.41 | Fisker | HAAAAAALP |
| 20:33.17 | cog|work | Fisker: move to austrailia. it's wednesday there... |
| 20:33.22 | Fisker | i hate tuesdays that also happen to be the second tuesday in the month |
| 20:33.43 | cog|work | but then you'll be a day closer to next tuesday... |
| 20:34.09 | Fisker | do not want |
| 20:35.01 | Fisker | It's a shame we can't tell Blizzard just how horrible the WoW site is in the new survey |
| 20:40.40 | cog|work | email dilligaf@blizzard.com |
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| 20:41.55 | sioraiocht | haste: just FYI, japanese are obsessed with blonds |
| 20:42.29 | Fisker | cog|work |
| 20:42.32 | Fisker | i fucked your sons dog |
| 20:42.39 | nicoli_s | lol |
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| 20:47.35 | haste | sioraiocht: I've been there once before already, and I studied japanese a while :P |
| 20:47.44 | sioraiocht | haste: Neat! |
| 20:47.46 | sioraiocht | I have to go to there next year |
| 20:47.48 | sioraiocht | I kinda fear it |
| 20:47.57 | Fisker | haste |
| 20:48.13 | Fisker | you must hurry up the horse carriages |
| 20:48.31 | NiLon | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J42LPs7ujO4&hd=1 |
| 20:48.39 | haste | I'm going to hurry up into bed! |
| 20:48.49 | sioraiocht | dirty |
| 20:48.49 | haste | since I'm not getting up at 6AM for once |
| 20:50.22 | Fisker | why go to bed then? |
| 20:50.54 | haste | I want to sleep more for once :P |
| 20:51.06 | haste | been getting 5h or less lately |
| 20:51.28 | haste | and today I didn't get home until around 8PM, so no way I could take a nap on the couch |
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| 20:55.16 | nicoli_s | Fisker: dog sex is bad mmk |
| 20:55.24 | Ackis | anal gland |
| 20:56.12 | Fisker | how can it be nicoli_s ? |
| 20:56.58 | Fisker | i stopped you Ackis |
| 20:58.29 | Lunessa | Maybe old news --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_MqZn7E-mk |
| 21:02.56 | malreth | ~dict titubation |
| 21:05.10 | Tentacled | nicoli_s: an expert says so? ;P |
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| 21:05.12 | nicoli_s | Tentacled:someone who looks at a dog and says "hmmmm.....somethign tells me i shouldnt fuck that" |
| 21:05.56 | Tentacled | oh but that's just one aspect of dog sex. It's complete when you can say "something tells me I shouldn't let that fuck ME" :D |
| 21:06.06 | Ackis | http://cuteoverload.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/1041.jpg?w=544&h=702 |
| 21:06.06 | Tentacled | who knows what Fisker had in mind :> |
| 21:07.03 | xanax` | does someone know an addon that features the display of the ennemy's face in a "circle" like when you inspect someone's stuff ? |
| 21:07.20 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 21:07.25 | xanax` | i am searching for this code |
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| 21:08.19 | Ackis | hey nicoli_s: anal gland |
| 21:08.25 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 21:08.26 | Fisker | dickcream |
| 21:08.53 | nicoli_s | Ackis:my mom and sister had to stimulate their cats anal gland to make it shit when it was young |
| 21:09.05 | Ackis | sounds like something Fisker would be in to |
| 21:09.08 | nicoli_s | glad i had moved out of the house and missed that particular fun family event |
| 21:09.15 | Lunessa | xanax`: Do you mean the portrait ? |
| 21:09.45 | xanax` | yes |
| 21:10.10 | xanax` | I would like to get my ennemy's portrait and his name |
| 21:10.53 | xanax` | i haven't found many informations about this code on wowwiki |
| 21:11.22 | Ackis | anyone going to SDCC? |
| 21:11.33 | Fisker | boring Lunessa |
| 21:15.19 | nicoli_s | sdcc? |
| 21:15.35 | nicoli_s | south dakota corn conference? |
| 21:15.40 | Lunessa | xanax`: http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser/live/AddOns/Blizzard_InspectUI/Blizzard_InspectUI.lua - that's how blizzard foes it on the inspect frame. |
| 21:16.22 | xanax` | thank you very much |
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| 21:27.35 | Lunessa | Neil Patrick Harris is fucking hilarious! "Hey, found out my birthday is the day after Real Housewife of NJ's Danielle Staub's sex tape is released. Um, no need to get me any gifts..." From his Twitter. |
| 21:28.32 | xanax` | thank you again, Lunessa. wowprogramming is a great website.. |
| 21:28.49 | Lunessa | Thank jnwhiteh, it's his baby. :) |
| 21:29.16 | DJJeff | ~seen Atlithor |
| 21:29.20 | purl | i haven't seen 'atlithor', DJJeff |
| 21:29.27 | DJJeff | grrrrrrrrrr |
| 21:29.45 | DJJeff | so many addons I have and none of the authors in here |
| 21:29.46 | DJJeff | X_X |
| 21:30.02 | Ackis | I'm an author |
| 21:30.12 | foxlit | You should clearly delete all your addons and download ours instead. |
| 21:30.13 | Ackis | more of a manager now |
| 21:30.28 | cog|work | DJJeff: also, many authors don't go by the same name in here |
| 21:30.40 | DJJeff | XToLevel was just updated along with RaidBuffStatus |
| 21:30.53 | DJJeff | I have some questions about XToLevel |
| 21:31.00 | xanax` | bye |
| 21:31.00 | DJJeff | theres always forums I guess |
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| 21:31.20 | cog|work | usually an author is e-mailed when you post a comment on their addon |
| 21:31.26 | Ackis | cog|work: want to play star trek online? |
| 21:31.26 | DJJeff | I sometimes have no patients for forums or emails |
| 21:31.27 | Fisker | slaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:31.28 | Fisker | slaps cog|work around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:31.28 | Fisker | slaps DJJeff around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:31.33 | Fisker | good night btw |
| 21:31.38 | foxlit | http://media.curse.com/Curse.Projects.ProjectImages/14556/13328/rbs381.PNG |
| 21:31.40 | DJJeff | slaps Fisker with his very own hand |
| 21:31.41 | foxlit | yowch :( |
| 21:32.20 | cog|work | Ackis: probably |
| 21:33.10 | Lunessa | DJJeff: Are you a doctor? |
| 21:33.16 | Fisker | i doctored you cog|work |
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| 21:48.36 | Kraps | anyone want to fisker? |
| 21:49.11 | Torhal | Fisker's Kraps. |
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| 21:50.15 | Lunessa | Seerah|away: You're responses in UI&M are getting more and more like mine... :P |
| 21:50.43 | cog|work | what is this UI&M of which you spaek? |
| 21:51.10 | Lunessa | Hush you. Never again shall you darken it's door! :P |
| 21:51.12 | Kraps | link? |
| 21:51.25 | Lunessa | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25172044029&sid=1 |
| 21:52.15 | Kraps | lol :/ |
| 21:52.42 | Seerah|away | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:52.45 | Dagmar | User Interface and Macaronis |
| 21:53.15 | Seerah|away | mmmm |
| 21:54.02 | Lunessa | *hugs Seerah|away* |
| 21:54.10 | Seerah|away | hugs Lunessa |
| 21:55.08 | Lunessa | Also, sourdough baguette... SO. GOOD. Made in the heavy, thick-crusted medieval style. |
| 21:55.25 | Lunessa | noms som more. |
| 21:55.55 | Kraps | Lunessa: you doing BGs? |
| 21:56.06 | Lunessa | No, I'm at work. |
| 21:56.26 | Kraps | i mean, do you do em? |
| 21:57.02 | Lunessa | I play a few, usually with some friends. I've done them all for the Orphan's Week achievement. |
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| 21:58.41 | Kraps | do you get a feel of whether we win or lose more? |
| 21:59.22 | Lunessa | On Kirin Tor/Rampage Battle Group - depends entirely on the time of day and particular battleground. |
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| 22:05.10 | Kraps | considering moving my priest over |
| 22:06.23 | Lunessa | *nod* This battle group has Cho'Gal and Illidan in it, so there are some pretty hard core pvp nuts in it. |
| 22:15.04 | Kraps | [2] [Corbes]: saw a dodge ram /w the bumper sticker "dodge the father ram the daughter" |
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| 22:20.17 | Kraps | skada vs recount, is there a big difference? |
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| 22:20.58 | Zyn | with Recount, your memory burps after using it .... however, with Skada, your memory farts |
| 22:21.12 | Borgleader | I hear Skada wasnt as accurate |
| 22:21.22 | Borgleader | *heard |
| 22:21.25 | Lunessa | They use slightly different ways to define "per second" |
| 22:21.49 | Borgleader | O.o Please explain |
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| 22:23.11 | Dagmar | Some seconds are rounded, some seconds are sharp-edged. |
| 22:23.14 | foxlit | how would you compute the DPS done by a player in a fight? |
| 22:23.20 | foxlit | Damage done / fight duration? |
| 22:23.35 | foxlit | Damage done / (last attack - first attack time)? |
| 22:23.36 | Lunessa | Compare the numbers the two report for "DPS" and you'll see the difference. I didn't bother to crank open the code and look at the math the two addons use, but I can be sure they decide differently when combat begins/ends and what counts in the "per second" calculation. |
| 22:23.41 | foxlit | Damage done / (time spent attacking)? |
| 22:24.31 | Thunder_Child | which is why dmg done is so much more useful |
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| 22:24.53 | Borgleader | Personnally i'd go for Damage Done / FIght Duration |
| 22:24.55 | Kraps | foxlit: gearscore + stam |
| 22:25.20 | Dagmar | Borgleader: That's not such a great idea |
| 22:25.25 | Lunessa | Basically, the only time it matters is when you're trying to compare your number to someone else's number. |
| 22:25.52 | Borgleader | @Dagmar: why not? |
| 22:26.05 | Dagmar | Borgleader: Because it's not always appropriate to be shooting *all the time* during boss fights |
| 22:26.11 | Kraps | Lunessa: i wanted to get skada for its absorbs meter |
| 22:26.15 | Kraps | meh |
| 22:26.32 | Lunessa | Kraps: Recount has a module for that too. |
| 22:26.41 | Kraps | oh ya? |
| 22:26.56 | Borgleader | At which point its not appropriate for everyon in the group/raid so...it evens out |
| 22:26.58 | Borgleader | ? |
| 22:27.08 | Lunessa | Yeah. "RecountGuessedAbsorbs" or something like that. |
| 22:27.28 | Dagmar | Borgleader: No, you don't want to give meter whores an excuse to start shooting early just to avoid having many seconds of "0 dps" time |
| 22:27.40 | Dagmar | ...because they will shoot early. |
| 22:27.44 | Dagmar | ...among other things. |
| 22:27.58 | Borgleader | In heroics: Vote to kick, Guild raid: /gkick |
| 22:28.40 | Dagmar | You miss the point. |
| 22:28.43 | Dagmar | Utterly |
| 22:28.52 | Borgleader | You said you didnt want ppl shooting early |
| 22:29.17 | Gintaro | And you are not dealing with the problem |
| 22:29.43 | Kraps | Borgleader: if you kicked everyone who started early, there would be no people in the group |
| 22:29.51 | Dagmar | If you can't figure it out, it's not my job to teach you |
| 22:30.04 | Thunder_Child | i do think thats rather valid in guild mind you |
| 22:30.25 | Borgleader | I dont see that many "trigger happy" ppl in my heroics |
| 22:30.30 | Borgleader | and it guild raids |
| 22:30.33 | Borgleader | it never happens |
| 22:30.40 | Borgleader | or at least, the ones ive been in |
| 22:30.59 | Lunessa | Please note, this whole topic has been beaten to goddamned death so many times |
| 22:31.27 | Borgleader | Right alongside the usefullness of GS :P |
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| 22:31.32 | Kraps | Lunessa: GEARSCORE SUX!!!!! |
| 22:31.33 | Thunder_Child | mmmm...dead horses |
| 22:31.47 | Lopeppeppy | BBQ. |
| 22:31.52 | Lunessa | Kraps: Remind me to /gkick you when I get home. :P |
| 22:31.58 | Lunessa | Boobies! |
| 22:31.59 | Kraps | :o |
| 22:32.02 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, gkick Kraps. |
| 22:33.01 | ArrowmasterClass | back when everybody was using WWS in TBC, warlocks got shafted royally by its DPS calculation, if you didnt do damage for 5 seconds it would stop counting time against you for its DPS calc |
| 22:33.12 | ArrowmasterClass | but when everybody is moving around due to something in the encounter and unable to attack, warlocks still have dots up doing damage...... |
| 22:33.37 | Lunessa | This is why Recount has it's "Activity" counter and all the other stats it collects - trying to give you a feel for what someone is doing in a batle. |
| 22:33.42 | Borgleader | so the locks would have highest uptime and therefore lowest dps? |
| 22:33.53 | ArrowmasterClass | yeah |
| 22:34.31 | Borgleader | tbh i usually look at dmg done anyway xD |
| 22:34.52 | ArrowmasterClass | not exactly but sorta, slightly higher uptime resulting in slightly lower dps |
| 22:35.07 | ArrowmasterClass | but it always happened |
| 22:35.28 | Kraps | yeah, so whats the relation between damage done and dps? |
| 22:36.12 | Kraps | its kinda abstract to me |
| 22:36.21 | ArrowmasterClass | it really is |
| 22:36.33 | Thunder_Child | nothing as far as i can tell |
| 22:36.58 | ArrowmasterClass | because the DSP calculation method you might think is the 'proper' one is completely situational |
| 22:37.30 | Kraps | but dmg done is a raw number |
| 22:37.39 | ArrowmasterClass | right |
| 22:37.40 | Kraps | hmm |
| 22:38.00 | sylvanaar | check out global vs local syntax hilighting http://tinypic.com/r/2j670uq/6 |
| 22:38.14 | Borgleader | Dmg done / (a certain uptime dependant on calculation method) = dps |
| 22:38.29 | Borgleader | so i look at dmg done instead |
| 22:38.42 | Borgleader | or maybe i just do because im usually first -.-; |
| 22:38.53 | ArrowmasterClass | and then you get fights where youve got a mass of adds that need AoE'ed and all the single target classes bitch that 'total done' doesnt count or other such situations |
| 22:40.21 | foxlit | sylvanaar: eyes. bleeding :( |
| 22:40.29 | ArrowmasterClass | ok done with my test so i think ill head home |
| 22:40.32 | foxlit | well done on parsing, but IDEA generally looks horrible. |
| 22:40.41 | sylvanaar | =( |
| 22:40.51 | sylvanaar | i like idea |
| 22:41.01 | Kraps | wtb more crit |
| 22:41.06 | ArrowmasterClass | sylvanaar: give proper link so i dont have to disable noscript on that shitty site |
| 22:41.18 | foxlit | http://i50.tinypic.com/2j670uq.jpg |
| 22:42.19 | ArrowmasterClass | that does look horrible |
| 22:42.25 | ArrowmasterClass | and im going home |
| 22:42.34 | Kraps | Lunessa: i found it, hasn't been updated in 11 months |
| 22:42.49 | Lunessa | Kraps: Doesn't mean it's not working. |
| 22:42.52 | sylvanaar | its just so you can see what i am demonstrating geez |
| 22:44.48 | foxlit | Not sure what it is about that editor, but I like how mine looks much better: http://www.go-hero.net/box/mate.png |
| 22:44.52 | Lunessa | It rubs the lotion on its skin, or else it gets the hose again. |
| 22:46.08 | Kraps | eyes Lunessa |
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| 22:46.44 | foxlit | can't even blame it on the lacking cleartype, since that's present in both shots |
| 22:47.07 | sylvanaar | textmate is ok |
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| 22:47.47 | Lunessa | foxlit: what are you using? |
| 22:47.56 | Lunessa | textmate? |
| 22:47.58 | sylvanaar | textmate imo |
| 22:48.00 | foxlit | textmate. |
| 22:48.23 | Lunessa | I've ben using TextWrangler but that looks nicer. |
| 22:48.38 | Dagmar | Lunesssa: ...and that's why I wasn't about to bother explaining the thing which has been done to death |
| 22:48.49 | foxlit | Kind of like the color scheme, too. |
| 22:48.51 | Lunessa | Dagmar: *nod* |
| 22:49.27 | foxlit | maybe it's the font. m's in particular. |
| 22:49.48 | sylvanaar | its just a different font and size |
| 22:51.49 | sylvanaar | wonder what intellij looks like on a mac |
| 22:53.40 | Thunder_Child | it looks like intellij |
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| 23:02.12 | MoonWitch | lil dumbass question -- on an intel cpu - the rest generic-y parts - would mac os x run (if I have enough cpu and ram of course) |
| 23:02.22 | MoonWitch | or does it really have to be a mac hw setup |
| 23:02.36 | Cide | in theory, yes |
| 23:02.47 | Cide | in practice, not without an asston of work |
| 23:02.53 | MoonWitch | ah |
| 23:02.59 | MoonWitch | well was worth a thought :) |
| 23:03.15 | MoonWitch | one of these days, when I win the lottery I might get a MacBook Pro :P |
| 23:03.26 | foxlit | getamac ;) |
| 23:03.40 | MoonWitch | after a car purchase, I will probably |
| 23:03.46 | MoonWitch | now I just needed that laptop bad |
| 23:03.48 | foxlit | The OS itself really isn't that interesting. |
| 23:04.08 | MoonWitch | actually I find the OS interesting as well :P |
| 23:04.19 | MoonWitch | it's like -- working decently! |
| 23:04.27 | foxlit | win7 works decently |
| 23:04.32 | MoonWitch | yeah it does |
| 23:04.38 | foxlit | linux probably works decently, too :) |
| 23:04.40 | MoonWitch | sadly at work, we aren't getting win 7 |
| 23:05.06 | MoonWitch | boss wants the win7 on the 3 yr old laptops -- I LOL'ed and wished him luck :P |
| 23:05.18 | Lunessa | MoonWitch: You can google "hackintosh" for information about making it work... but ... |
| 23:05.56 | Lunessa | MoonWitch: Windows7 Pro 64 runs like a champ on my 5 year old computer. |
| 23:06.09 | Dagmar | You probably have a decent computer. |
| 23:06.17 | Dagmar | They're probably leasing Dells |
| 23:06.20 | MoonWitch | yeah but it's ridiculous to install Win 7 on machines that are laying on a shelf in the server room |
| 23:06.25 | MoonWitch | and yes, we're leasing dells |
| 23:06.32 | Dagmar | "laying" on a "shelf" |
| 23:06.35 | Dagmar | heh |
| 23:06.46 | Dagmar | ...and the word "server room" |
| 23:06.54 | Lunessa | Dagmar: *chuckle* Mine is old, old, old. But the it was good at one point. |
| 23:06.55 | MoonWitch | the laptops we had before this batch :P |
| 23:07.59 | MoonWitch | mine is a Latitude D830 -- to give you a timeframe |
| 23:08.26 | Dagmar | So, assuming you upgraded it to 2Gb RAM, it'll probably do okay |
| 23:08.52 | Dagmar | Being that it's probably the usual leased configuration, it will suck festering dodo eggs on Win7 because it barely handles XP adequately |
| 23:09.01 | MoonWitch | yeah |
| 23:09.04 | Lunessa | http://notalwaysright.com/unloading-marital-baggage/5724 |
| 23:09.27 | MoonWitch | and on that we run Outlook 2007 - 3 DB appz and we're using VMWare for testing on those dells :P |
| 23:09.43 | MoonWitch | and then ppl ask me why I can get a lot more done at home :P |
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| 23:11.29 | MoonWitch | wait, you can't buy Mac OS X seperately?? Only an upgrade? |
| 23:11.41 | MoonWitch | (which is insanely cheap compared to upgrade packs from MS btw) |
| 23:11.43 | Dagmar | Whaddaya going to buy it for? |
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| 23:11.55 | Dagmar | You've _already bought it_ if you bought a Mac |
| 23:12.05 | MoonWitch | I was curious about the OS price seperately :) |
| 23:12.06 | Dagmar | hence why you can't buy it standalone |
| 23:12.08 | MoonWitch | that's all |
| 23:13.06 | foxlit | something like http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC581Z/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY |
| 23:13.27 | Lunessa | Actually, you can buy it standalone at the apple store. |
| 23:13.41 | foxlit | the upgrade box is supposingly only licensed if you already have leopard, but it never checks. |
| 23:13.55 | Lunessa | I bought a full CD for a powerbook that I bought third hand that didn't have discs. |
| 23:14.03 | Dagmar | Should the BSA check... then you have an issue |
| 23:14.19 | *** join/#wowuidev Thunder_Child (~Thunder_C@WoWUIDev/PITA/TC) |
| 23:15.31 | foxlit | The boy scouts of america licensing checks are indeed... problematic. |
| 23:15.42 | Dagmar | Business Software Alliance |
| 23:15.46 | foxlit | yesyes. |
| 23:16.02 | Dagmar | ...an organization composed of accountants who can't count. |
| 23:16.23 | foxlit | Wonder what gives them the right to check anything, though. |
| 23:16.42 | Dagmar | If they visit, you'll be lucky to get off with only being asked to buy two licences for everything |
| 23:16.59 | Dagmar | foxlit: because if you don't let them in they threaten to sue you |
| 23:17.19 | Dagmar | I have been at one place that told them to fuck off. |
| 23:17.24 | foxlit | For not letting them in? |
| 23:17.34 | Dagmar | They showed up with a warrant and a sherriff. |
| 23:17.44 | Dagmar | ...who later told them to fuck off himself. |
| 23:18.04 | Dagmar | Clearly, pirating Linux at a small ISP is big business |
| 23:18.13 | MoonWitch | i am going to bed |
| 23:18.21 | MoonWitch | see you later guys and gals |
| 23:18.49 | Dagmar | The Sun boxes were kinda beyond reproach because Sun's a bit like Apple... It's kinda hard to buy the hardware without a licence |
| 23:22.34 | Kraps | i need more gold |
| 23:23.03 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/25171673853/why-is-replenishment-on-the-right-side/ |
| 23:23.08 | Kraps | i lold |
| 23:24.12 | *** join/#wowuidev Wella (~5ec028a9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.192.40.169) |
| 23:24.18 | foxlit | I agree. Replenishment should be on the wrong side. |
| 23:24.20 | Wella | Hello anyone that is alive or undead |
| 23:24.32 | Torhal | This is limbo. |
| 23:24.40 | Wella | Oh, wrong irc, sorry, bye |
| 23:24.42 | Wella | j/k |
| 23:24.43 | Torhal | We are neither alive nor unalive. |
| 23:24.54 | Torhal | Just remember not to feed Fisker. |
| 23:24.54 | Wella | Too bad. |
| 23:24.58 | Wella | You should try being alive some time, it's fun |
| 23:25.07 | Wella | feeds Fisker |
| 23:25.27 | Wella | reads more LUA tutorials to get mentally back on topic. |
| 23:26.39 | foxlit | Wella: making anything interesting? |
| 23:26.42 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: i wana hear this story, how did you get the sherriff to tell them to fuck off too? |
| 23:27.14 | Wella | No, considering I have just started learning LUA and XML. |
| 23:27.37 | Wella | I can't think of an Addon idea to try and start off with. (A simple one.) |
| 23:27.43 | Wella | I already made SMTM of course |
| 23:27.58 | foxlit | Pedants will tell you that only L should be capitalized in Lua. |
| 23:28.09 | Wella | Pedantry is not funny |
| 23:28.13 | Wella | Moving on |
| 23:28.21 | Wella | Any ideas? |
| 23:28.40 | foxlit | Oh, many. |
| 23:28.47 | Wella | Fireball away |
| 23:28.55 | Wella | chuckles |
| 23:29.03 | Tentacled | WELla, make one that makes a list of all loot gathered after a given signal, and presents in a bag-like window, separate from all the other bag contents. |
| 23:29.07 | foxlit | Sort the items sold by merchants in the order of likelihood of me wanting to buy them. |
| 23:29.33 | Wella | Hmm |
| 23:29.39 | Wella | Not sure which would be easier |
| 23:29.47 | Lunessa | I need an AddOn that automatically gives me the number of all the hot women on my server. |
| 23:29.48 | Wella | Probably Tentacled's? |
| 23:29.53 | Wella | ... |
| 23:29.57 | Wella | You don't need an addon for that |
| 23:29.58 | Tentacled | Lunessa: a big fat 0 ? |
| 23:29.59 | Wella | Your answer is 2 |
| 23:30.03 | foxlit | In equipment set tooltips, compare stats of the items in the set to the items I currently have equipped. |
| 23:30.12 | Wella | Hold shift? |
| 23:30.26 | Wella | Or doesn't that work in equipment sets? |
| 23:30.30 | foxlit | equipment sets, not individual items. |
| 23:30.36 | Wella | Oh |
| 23:30.38 | Cide | you don't realize what Lunessa REALLY asked for |
| 23:30.46 | Wella | Belf female count? |
| 23:30.58 | foxlit | So something like +1200 resilience +500 stamina -400 spell power when showing PvP set tooltip and wearing PvE gear. |
| 23:31.00 | Cide | phone numbers to all the hot women on his server |
| 23:31.01 | Tentacled | Cide: had Lunessa asked for numbers... :) |
| 23:31.02 | Cide | clearly. |
| 23:31.05 | Wella | Ohh i see foxlit |
| 23:31.24 | Wella | Never used an equipment set before since I am a noob |
| 23:31.26 | Wella | Lol |
| 23:31.44 | Tentacled | How about playing the game first, then, before you go modding it? ;P |
| 23:31.49 | foxlit | Improve the AH UI by grouping sales of one item into some sort of "750 [Awesome Item] available at 5g-10g a piece" |
| 23:31.50 | Wella | T_T |
| 23:32.02 | Wella | I should never have asked lol. |
| 23:32.03 | Tentacled | foxlit: Auctionator's "buy" tab. |
| 23:32.12 | Wella | Auctionator ftw |
| 23:32.27 | *** join/#wowuidev Cargor (~quassel@dslb-088-070-061-052.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 23:32.45 | Wella | W/e I'll think of something myself |
| 23:32.55 | foxlit | Tentacled: judging by the screenshots, rather close. Could be better, though |
| 23:33.40 | Wella | Diu diu |
| 23:34.03 | Tentacled | that was insightful. |
| 23:34.11 | Wella | is insightful. |
| 23:34.17 | Wella | gains +2 Intellect. |
| 23:34.38 | Tentacled | more like intellack. |
| 23:34.42 | Tentacled | *rimshot* |
| 23:34.46 | Wella | Sorry |
| 23:34.47 | Tentacled | oops, *footshot* |
| 23:34.53 | Wella | That was too funny I missed the cymbal |
| 23:35.13 | DWSR | Sigh. |
| 23:35.23 | Wella | Agreed. |
| 23:35.35 | Wella | What time is it for everyone? |
| 23:35.49 | DWSR | ~rimshot |
| 23:35.50 | purl | badum-TISH! |
| 23:36.00 | Wella | No seriously |
| 23:36.02 | Wella | What time is it? |
| 23:36.04 | Tentacled | high time. |
| 23:36.06 | Wella | It's 00:36 where I live |
| 23:36.11 | DWSR | It's currently 1936. |
| 23:36.17 | Tentacled | 0136 |
| 23:36.22 | Wella | Kay |
| 23:36.29 | Wella | likes pointless questions. |
| 23:36.41 | DWSR | I'm utc -5 |
| 23:36.50 | Wella | < GBP |
| 23:36.50 | Wella | <3 |
| 23:37.01 | Fisker | slaps DWSR around a bit with a large trout |
| 23:37.17 | Cide | in sweden it's always the time of the hammer |
| 23:37.19 | Tentacled | GBP? gooey blobby pustule? |
| 23:37.20 | Wella | eats the trout and gains 5 Stamina |
| 23:37.21 | Fisker | slaps Tentacled around a bit with a large trout |
| 23:37.30 | Fisker | you win this round Cide |
| 23:37.32 | Tentacled | guts the trout. |
| 23:37.51 | Wella | : "Hmm." |
| 23:38.24 | Wella | I am so wasting my time right now and I have to get up at a reasonable hour too. |
| 23:38.32 | Wella | I should either read more Lua tutorials or fuck off. |
| 23:38.34 | Wella | reads |
| 23:39.44 | Wella|Learning | I love Lua so far it's such common sense |
| 23:42.34 | Cide | should try python |
| 23:42.38 | Cide | now there's awesome |
| 23:42.46 | Corrodias2 | you should try cobol |
| 23:42.48 | Dezzi | or ruby |
| 23:43.10 | Wella|Learning | The only reason I wana learn Lua is for addons, I don't want to get into scripting for any other reason |
| 23:43.13 | Wella|Learning | :) |
| 23:43.18 | Corrodias2 | learning cobol will break you. you won't be able to write sane code again. |
| 23:43.31 | Wella|Learning | Although I do understand the concepts of scripting and whatnot, just not a full language |
| 23:45.13 | Wella|Learning | . |
| 23:48.31 | Lunessa | Corrodias2: Are you saying none of my code is sane? |
| 23:49.40 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa: thats Corrodias2 the evil version, dont listen to him |
| 23:50.15 | Fisker | nice |
| 23:50.21 | Lunessa | Does he have the soul patch and the tiny mustache? Awesome! |
| 23:50.23 | Fisker | they also released the android auction house app |
| 23:50.42 | Corrodias2 | muahahaha |
| 23:54.33 | Jerub | Fisker: win |
| 23:54.50 | Jerub | but it's no good to me unless i also have auctioneer as a crutch :/ |
| 23:55.41 | Tentacled | Hmm. Lunessa. Any link to Lughnasadh? |
| 23:55.52 | Lunessa | No. |
| 23:59.35 | Dagmar | A little early for loaf-mass, innit? |
