| 00:00.09 | Antiarc | Swype makes hardware keyboards feel archaic |
| 00:00.16 | Arrowmaster | which is why im waiting to see more info about the new HTC with a hardware keyboard |
| 00:00.16 | Dagmar | Ah doon' think ye'r gon'na be typin' alot on ye'r phone |
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| 00:00.39 | Dagmar | There's a hardware keyboard on the 800w, and mainly it just irks me |
| 00:00.56 | Dagmar | Unless it's sideways, it's just going to be way too goddamn small |
| 00:01.02 | Slackwise | I'm not parting with my hardware keyboard. I need tactile feedback. |
| 00:01.11 | Slackwise | I'll be moving from the G1 to the myTouch 3G Slide or similar. |
| 00:01.16 | NightHawkTheSane | I barely use the hardware keyboard on my g1 these days. |
| 00:01.22 | Slackwise | How?! |
| 00:01.32 | Slackwise | The screen is retarded and registers poorly on the G1. |
| 00:01.35 | Slackwise | Not to mention it /lags/. |
| 00:01.38 | NightHawkTheSane | i've got the HTC_IME onscreen keyboard installed |
| 00:01.42 | NightHawkTheSane | it's a lot better |
| 00:02.09 | Slackwise | I prefer to use ConnetBot without 90% of my screen covered with virtual keyboard. |
| 00:02.13 | Slackwise | ^ConnectBot |
| 00:02.32 | NightHawkTheSane | well, if i'm using connectbot, yeah, then i'll use the hardware kb. |
| 00:02.40 | NightHawkTheSane | or snesoid. |
| 00:02.43 | Slackwise | I mostly use ConnectBot on my phone. |
| 00:02.49 | Slackwise | I use a Wiimote now for Nesoid. :P |
| 00:03.06 | NightHawkTheSane | but for tuping a text message, email, or something, i'll just use the osk. |
| 00:03.17 | Slackwise | I've tried. It's infuriating. |
| 00:03.19 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm not dragging a wiimote on the bus to and from work ;) |
| 00:03.44 | Antiarc | Slackwise: The G1 is resistive, not capacitive, AFAIK |
| 00:03.54 | Slackwise | Antiarc: Whatever the screen is, it sucks at response. |
| 00:03.54 | Antiarc | The latest stuff is capacitive |
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| 00:04.14 | Slackwise | Regardless, the iPhone sucks too. I'll never part with my freaking hardware keyboard unless I plan to carry around a bluetooth one. |
| 00:04.23 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTooBnKAdSw&feature=related |
| 00:04.25 | NightHawkTheSane | anyway, i'm heading home. later. |
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| 00:11.59 | Dagmar | Dude. Buy a laptop already. |
| 00:12.07 | Dagmar | ...or at least a netbook. |
| 00:12.29 | Dagmar | If you're going to have to carry a keyboard around with you, you shouldn't have to put up with a 4" screen at the same time |
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| 00:24.18 | myrkraverk | ~api SetParent |
| 00:24.19 | purl | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetParent |
| 00:24.38 | myrkraverk | erm... |
| 00:31.46 | MoonWitch | goodnight sweethearts |
| 00:31.56 | MoonWitch | and Dagmar, thank you for the enlightening talk :) |
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| 00:32.31 | Dagmar | No problem |
| 00:32.54 | Dagmar | It postponed my daily trip through the syslog to see whose unworthy of running their own home router |
| 00:33.02 | Dagmar | s/whose/who's/; |
| 00:33.20 | Dagmar | Only two people today, although one is running that TC> thing I've yet to figure out how to turn off |
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| 00:36.50 | myrkraverk | Is it possible to hide a layer by the level= parameter name? |
| 00:37.39 | myrkraverk | Say I want to hide everything in <Layer level="ARTWORK"> of a particular frame? |
| 00:39.36 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Dagmar |
| 00:39.36 | purl | slaps a compatible dib on Dagmar's head |
| 00:40.33 | Legorol | myrkraverk: no, not possible |
| 00:47.30 | Dagmar | Thunder_Child: Oi. It's not like these people haven't already transgressed. |
| 00:47.44 | Thunder_Child | Dagmar: i meant because you pinged me |
| 00:48.15 | Dagmar | Blame the people who make whatever the hell is using "tc>" as a console prompt |
| 00:48.59 | myrkraverk | Legorol, ok, thanks for answering. |
| 00:53.58 | Cide | it is indirectly |
| 00:54.18 | Thunder_Child | Dagmar: total commander? |
| 00:54.23 | Cide | you can loop over all the textures and check which ones match the layer of interest |
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| 00:56.20 | Dagmar | Thunder_Child: No. It's some form of DSL router appliance. |
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| 00:59.56 | myrkraverk | Cide, hm, ok - can you tip on how I do that? |
| 01:00.08 | Cide | www.wowprogramming.com |
| 01:00.31 | Cide | I'll point you in the direction of widget methods for Frame |
| 01:00.46 | myrkraverk | Ah, ok - I think I can take it from there. |
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| 01:09.33 | Shirik | ohi |
| 01:09.40 | |Jelly| | ohi |
| 01:09.46 | Cide | ohi |
| 01:10.11 | Cide | no day9 commentary today :( |
| 01:10.13 | Cide | boring |
| 01:10.18 | Cide | what am I supposed to do now? |
| 01:11.54 | Dagmar | Explain what "day9" is? |
| 01:12.30 | Dagmar | Although, after looking around my desk, "providing me with an alibi" may be in order |
| 01:12.55 | Dagmar | $co-worker thinks it's funny to take all the caps off the pens on my desk when I step out of the office a moment |
| 01:13.05 | Cide | day9 is the nickname of a starcraft 1/2 commentator/shoutcaster |
| 01:13.23 | Dagmar | Ah |
| 01:13.33 | Cide | he has a daily commentary at 4am my time, but apparently not on fri-sat |
| 01:13.47 | Dagmar | Zero Punctuation |
| 01:14.38 | Cide | hm? |
| 01:14.57 | Dagmar | THey also have http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/the-escapist-presents/1768-Starcraft-2-101-Tips-Tricks over there |
| 01:16.11 | Cide | I doubt that's anywhere close the skill level of the commentaries by day9 and other commentators around |
| 01:16.22 | Legorol | cide: reset again :( |
| 01:16.26 | Cide | aye |
| 01:16.29 | Dagmar | They also have http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/i-hit-it-with-my-axe/1758-Episode-12-The-Blind-Stabbing-The-Blind |
| 01:16.29 | Cide | want to play? |
| 01:16.31 | Legorol | lost my diamond league op-ness :D |
| 01:16.39 | Dagmar | ...which is generally good for a few minutes of entertainment. |
| 01:17.03 | Legorol | Cide: nah, bit too tired right now |
| 01:17.11 | Cide | anti-strong sauce |
| 01:17.40 | Legorol | Husky did a great completely very very basic tutorial to SC2, starting with the basics of what an RTS is |
| 01:17.43 | Legorol | i thought it was brilliant idea |
| 01:17.58 | Legorol | you often find game guides/strategieson the internet, but somehow all of them always assume at least some minimal knowledge |
| 01:18.51 | Cide | yep |
| 01:18.57 | Cide | well time to 1v1 |
| 01:18.59 | Cide | back in a few |
| 01:19.35 | Cide | nvm gotta patch |
| 01:19.47 | Cide | yay terran nerfs |
| 01:19.59 | Dagmar | Some of us can't patch you insensitive clod |
| 01:20.01 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: http://gizmodo.com/5544749/stellar-dslr-time-lapse-of-a-space-shuttle-launch |
| 01:20.08 | Dagmar | Wait no I got that wrong somehow |
| 01:20.52 | Cide | .... |
| 01:21.01 | Cide | I just noticed the edit distance between my name and "Code" is 1 |
| 01:21.03 | Cide | meant to be? |
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| 02:09.01 | Arrowmaster | Thunder_Child: is there supposed to be an image there? |
| 02:09.25 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: time lapse means vid |
| 02:09.44 | Arrowmaster | not seeing it |
| 02:09.48 | Thunder_Child | or at least moving |
| 02:09.59 | Thunder_Child | it exists, you blocking it? |
| 02:10.05 | Arrowmaster | maybe |
| 02:10.12 | Thunder_Child | it's flash |
| 02:10.29 | Arrowmaster | scripts are enabled for the site |
| 02:10.46 | Arrowmaster | its probably inserted by one of the 20 fucking offsite javascripts on the site |
| 02:10.56 | Thunder_Child | ooyala |
| 02:11.53 | Arrowmaster | "video available soon" "14xxx days ...." |
| 02:12.06 | Arrowmaster | "available in 1 min" |
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| 02:15.01 | cog|away | http://www.nickanddrew.net/images/homelesssign.jpg |
| 02:15.46 | Arrowmaster | what the fuck is this damn thing doing |
| 02:15.59 | Arrowmaster | its still sitting there saying 'available in 1 min' |
| 02:16.07 | Cide | it's a time lapse |
| 02:16.12 | Cide | hahahaha bad joke |
| 02:16.13 | Cide | . |
| 02:16.36 | Cide | (but prety funny if you ask me) |
| 02:16.50 | |Jelly| | A true knee slapper, that one. |
| 02:18.11 | Cide | hmm so |
| 02:18.51 | Cide | oh I'm retarded |
| 02:21.24 | Dagmar | Blame those glasses from McDonald's |
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| 02:27.45 | cog|away | is ie9 really the first program to render svg with the gpu? |
| 02:28.19 | Dagmar | That's some really good dope you got there |
| 02:28.35 | Dagmar | It's making you believe some seriously crazy shit |
| 02:29.11 | cogwheel | nah... just making me fail at google-fu |
| 02:29.24 | Dagmar | Adobe's been hooking video drivers for various bits of flash for awhile now |
| 02:30.15 | cogwheel | well, flash isn't exactly svg... and that's not really useful to anyone but adobe... |
| 02:30.15 | Cide | yeah but most browsers natively render svg I thought |
| 02:30.39 | Cide | cogwheel: well, it's standard issue IE stuff |
| 02:30.46 | Cide | they figure out something useless and then try and sell that in |
| 02:31.12 | Dagmar | Most browsers that are not IE natively render SVG |
| 02:31.15 | Cide | seems like it has full html5 compliance also according to my google fu, which is nice |
| 02:31.15 | cogwheel | i don't think it's useless... it allows them to render text much more faithfully to the font designers |
| 02:31.20 | Dagmar | IE is very late to the table on that one |
| 02:31.30 | Cide | natively but not on the gpu |
| 02:31.34 | cogwheel | yes, but ie uses directx |
| 02:31.44 | cogwheel | hence hardware accelerated |
| 02:31.58 | Cide | also |
| 02:32.07 | Cide | microsoft needs to backport features to older browers |
| 02:32.12 | Cide | since too few people upgrade |
| 02:32.25 | cogwheel | they should back-port security features at least |
| 02:32.39 | cogwheel | anything more would go against their business model |
| 02:32.47 | Cide | don't care about their business model |
| 02:32.50 | Cide | I'm a web developer |
| 02:32.51 | Dagmar | That would probably break webpages that only still work because no one upgraded and all the web developers were too big a bunch of pussies to so much as frown at people who didn't upgrade |
| 02:32.54 | Cide | I care about using new features |
| 02:33.03 | cogwheel | indeed |
| 02:33.14 | cogwheel | there's actually a guy at microsoft tasked with getting people to stop using ie6 |
| 02:33.30 | Dagmar | Frankly, until they stick the word "release" on it, it doens't really matter *what* IE9 is or isn't supposed to do |
| 02:33.37 | Cide | that's what quirks mode is for |
| 02:33.54 | cogwheel | Dagmar: indeed |
| 02:34.08 | Thunder_Child | so very disturbing http://facesofwow.net/home.php |
| 02:34.16 | Dagmar | They're just now starting to realize that regardless of how painful it'll be for the addicts, that they're about to start losing them by the boatload |
| 02:34.34 | Dagmar | ...so everything you read about it will be half-spin an half-vapor |
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| 02:35.16 | Dagmar | ...just like IE8 and it's ability to comb your hair, fold your clothes, and magically erase wrinkle lines from your face. |
| 02:35.33 | Arrowmaster | http://tirania.org/blog/archive/2010/Jun-04.html |
| 02:35.36 | cogwheel | not everything... the developer blogs are much more honest about things than the press releases and PR stuff |
| 02:35.41 | Dagmar | Where were those features, come release time? Gone. 'cept MS made big talk at trade shows about them. |
| 02:36.00 | Arrowmaster | this has got to be one of the stupidest things ive seen with all the updates at the bottom of that page |
| 02:36.28 | Cide | it's nice how if you have an expired win7 beta installation, it reboots so fast you can't install the release off the hard drive |
| 02:36.31 | cogwheel | Dagmar: would you rather a) wait another 2-3 years or b) get whatever buggy, half-finished garbage they have at the moment? |
| 02:36.51 | cogwheel | 'cause those are the only two options besides taking them out |
| 02:36.51 | Dagmar | cogwheel: I'll take c) using someone else's fucking browser |
| 02:37.18 | Cide | that's a fine option but it means you lose the ability to cry about it a lot |
| 02:37.19 | cogwheel | i'm just saying... you can't single out microsoft (or any developer, really) for missing goals... |
| 02:37.33 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Dude. It's Miquel. |
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| 02:38.40 | Dagmar | cogwheel: Well, there's "missing goals" and there's "perception management". I consider Microsoft guilty of excessive amounts of the latter. Standards-compliance was all well and good for them to crow about as coming in their "next" version, but each time they decide at the last minute that they somehow know better than the rest of hte planet how HTML should render |
| 02:38.45 | Arrowmaster | and looking at the source im wondering if that extra crap that doesnt get used at all is actually needed by something |
| 02:39.08 | Dagmar | It took them YEARS to get non-suck PNG support into their browser, for example. |
| 02:39.13 | cogwheel | Dagmar: not really... they just have to prioritize what they incorporate into a given release |
| 02:39.19 | Dagmar | ...long after they actually claimed they added support. |
| 02:39.21 | cogwheel | they have a lot of old shit to fix |
| 02:39.27 | Arrowmaster | does IE support transparent PNGs yet? |
| 02:39.38 | Cide | yes |
| 02:39.40 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: What I have in W7 does, apparently. |
| 02:39.43 | Cide | that came a long time ago |
| 02:39.47 | Cide | relatively speaking |
| 02:39.53 | Dagmar | Cide: It "came" a long time ago, but it was broken as hell |
| 02:39.55 | Arrowmaster | what about animated PNGs? |
| 02:40.13 | Dagmar | A transparent PNG was as likely to show the layer below as it was the page background until this last IE |
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| 02:41.42 | Cide | brb |
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| 02:55.46 | cog|movie | ~fail cog|movie |
| 02:55.46 | purl | cog|movie, you Fail! |
| 02:57.30 | Cide | fail |
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| 03:13.33 | Dagmar | I think this page actually fairly well summarizes why it is that I don't trust Microsoft to adhere to standards any more htan I'd expect a serial rapist to be put in charge of a girl's school lock-in |
| 03:13.35 | Dagmar | http://www.freeciv.net/yet-another-html5-browser-test/ |
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| 03:22.26 | ZorbaBeta | fool me once, shame on you. fool me twice, shame on me. fool me over and over and over and over again, what the fuck. |
| 03:22.35 | Dagmar | Pretty much. |
| 03:23.01 | Dagmar | There's only so many years you can see the same level of deception, half-truths, and outright lies before you just give up. |
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| 03:40.47 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: so you saw this? http://developers.slashdot.org/story/10/06/03/2237222/Clashing-Scores-In-the-HTML5-Compatibility-Test-Wars |
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| 04:21.27 | Thunder_Child | anyone know the / command to leave a vehicle? |
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| 04:37.35 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: http://gizmodo.com/5544337/the-dslr-which-wont-mash-your-face |
| 04:41.32 | Iriel | I've never really considered that a problem myself |
| 04:42.13 | Thunder_Child | neither have i, but it's an interesting point, /could/ they be made more comfortable |
| 04:45.27 | Iriel | I dunno, I think a sloping back would make operation of the back mounted controls a real pain |
| 04:45.57 | Iriel | The 'solution' is likely a long tube on the viewfinder eyepiece |
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| 04:57.24 | Slackwise | Shame on Blizzard for making group assume raid... /run e=EquipItemByName;if UnitInRaid("player") then e("Iceblade Arrow") else e("Terrorshaft Arrow") end |
| 04:57.47 | Slackwise | Err, raid assume group. Etc. |
| 04:58.07 | Iriel | You want GetNumRaidMembers() |
| 04:58.09 | Iriel | or whatever it is |
| 04:58.31 | Slackwise | This function works fine. |
| 04:58.40 | Iriel | You just said it didn't |
| 04:58.43 | Slackwise | No I didn't. |
| 04:58.58 | Slackwise | I was making a comment against Blizzard's macro conditional. |
| 04:59.08 | Slackwise | If you use [group:raid] it also assumes you're in a party. |
| 04:59.32 | Slackwise | So you cannot do something like /equip [group:raid] Iceblade Arrow; Terrrorshaft Arrow |
| 04:59.38 | Slackwise | Because it will also do it in heroics. |
| 05:00.11 | Iriel | Isn't that because the dungeon groups are built on top of raids? |
| 05:00.22 | Slackwise | No, "raid" assumes party. |
| 05:00.24 | Iriel | [I'll confess I haven't spent that long analysing the joys of the dungeon groups] |
| 05:00.28 | Slackwise | Since a raid is a "party". |
| 05:01.13 | Jamash | I don't know what you mean by "assume" |
| 05:01.24 | Slackwise | Jamash: Well, technically a raid /is/ a party. |
| 05:01.36 | Slackwise | But they assumed that that is good enough for macro conditionals. |
| 05:01.43 | Slackwise | Instead of defining a difference. |
| 05:02.34 | Iriel | Have you tested this in the 'normal world' ? |
| 05:02.42 | Slackwise | ...? |
| 05:02.59 | Iriel | If group:raid is evaluating to true when in a normal group (i.e. not a dungeon group or raid group) |
| 05:03.11 | Slackwise | Yes. |
| 05:03.16 | Jamash | have you tried /equip [group:party] Terrorshaft Arrow; Iceblade Arrow |
| 05:03.21 | Shadowed | Iriel: Dungeon groups are parties |
| 05:03.42 | Slackwise | Jamash: So it'll equip Iceblade Arrows when I run around doing dailies...? :P |
| 05:03.43 | Shadowed | Arenas and battlegrounds are always raids |
| 05:04.24 | Iriel | Sounds like a bug then |
| 05:04.51 | Jamash | ok, so then /equip [group:party] Terrorshaft Arrow; [group] Iceblade Arrow; Terrorshaft Arrow |
| 05:05.01 | Iriel | Jamash: that wont work, raid => party |
| 05:05.45 | Slackwise | That's why I wrote my silly /run script. :/ |
| 05:06.03 | Slackwise | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=7903649556&sid=1 |
| 05:06.03 | Shadowed | Random guess |
| 05:06.10 | Jamash | giev truth table |
| 05:06.18 | Shadowed | Ah alestane said what I was going to |
| 05:07.30 | Jamash | try my second suggestion then |
| 05:07.39 | Iriel | I'm still confused.. Have you actually tried the macro and found it doesn't work? |
| 05:07.40 | Jamash | or wait |
| 05:07.44 | Jamash | gimme a minute |
| 05:08.37 | Slackwise | Iriel: No, my code works fine. I was just making a statement that Blizzard's choice of making "raid" also evaluate to true in a party was foolish. |
| 05:08.50 | Iriel | I wanted to know if you'd tested the MACRO CONDITIONAL |
| 05:08.56 | Slackwise | Yes. |
| 05:08.58 | Jamash | I think you said that backwards, slackwise |
| 05:09.11 | Slackwise | Jamash: Yuh. :/ |
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| 05:09.44 | Iriel | Ok, i'll raise the issue and see if I can get anyone's attention 8-) |
| 05:10.02 | Slackwise | Iriel: It is by design. |
| 05:10.02 | Slackwise | :/ |
| 05:10.14 | Iriel | No it's not, dont be an idiot, please. |
| 05:10.28 | Iriel | The blizzard folks aren't stupid, they put the difference in for a reason |
| 05:10.37 | Iriel | if it was 'by design' they wouldn't provide both conditionals, would they |
| 05:10.48 | Slackwise | Then it's been broken for YEARS. |
| 05:11.06 | Iriel | If it is broken, it's been broken since they moved the conditionals to C++ |
| 05:11.23 | Slackwise | That was midTBC, IIRC. |
| 05:12.38 | Jamash | I'm still confused, if what alestane wrote is true then /equip [group:raid] Iceblade Arrow; Terrorshaft Arrow should work |
| 05:12.47 | Iriel | Yes, it should work |
| 05:13.05 | Iriel | Slackwise is implying it's bugged, and thus doesn't -- if they messed it up then I can see why it's a problem |
| 05:14.56 | Jamash | time to hop on the ptr |
| 05:15.10 | Slackwise | Hah, uhh. |
| 05:15.14 | Slackwise | I blame my tiredness. |
| 05:15.29 | Slackwise | Inverted logic, yaaaay... |
| 05:15.33 | Seerah|away | yaaaaaay |
| 05:15.39 | Seerah|away | night all |
| 05:15.39 | Slackwise | Yaaaaaay..... |
| 05:15.44 | Slackwise | sighs. |
| 05:15.50 | Seerah|away | sighs too :p |
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| 05:16.02 | Jamash | time to try to hop on the ptr but find out I need to download a patch... |
| 05:16.53 | Iriel | If someone has a character on SIlver hand in live, I can test w/ you. |
| 05:18.13 | Jamash | argh, what's the current ptr build #? |
| 05:18.27 | Jamash | it's patching again :-/ |
| 05:18.47 | kd3 | 12148 |
| 05:19.02 | Jamash | joy |
| 05:19.09 | Jamash | I'm at 12045 |
| 05:19.21 | kd3 | you're only 2 patches behind, then |
| 05:33.46 | cog|movie | I've never been able to sing "shananananananana knees" as fast as Axl... Are drugs required? |
| 05:34.22 | Iriel | practice cog, practice |
| 05:34.44 | cogwheel | I was recruited into the show chior my freshman year (usually you need to be a sophomore) |
| 05:35.31 | cogwheel | and placed not last in a barbershop competition when two of us caught colds the night before >< |
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| 05:40.29 | cogwheel | ohai mrs. cog :) |
| 05:40.45 | Mikina | 'ello :) |
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| 05:41.02 | cogwheel | Let's chat with each other from the same room lulz -_- |
| 05:41.38 | Thunder_Child | wouldnt be the first time |
| 05:41.44 | cogwheel | no XD |
| 05:41.59 | Thunder_Child | i have emailed people in the same house before |
| 05:42.01 | Thunder_Child | as well as IM |
| 05:43.17 | Shirik | I've IMed |
| 05:43.19 | Shirik | never email |
| 05:43.59 | cogwheel | e-mail can be practical if you want it to be persistent and available from anywhere |
| 05:44.03 | Mikina | Cog's little sis isnt hooked up to our printer so she was emailing him homework to print out :P |
| 05:44.07 | cogwheel | i've never really found that odd... |
| 05:44.18 | cogwheel | heh yeah |
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| 06:36.00 | Iriel | Slackwise: I can't reproduce your problem |
| 06:36.09 | Iriel | I'm standing here, in a normal party, and [group:raid] does not fire |
| 06:36.14 | Iriel | but [group:party] does |
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| 07:47.41 | Arrowmaster | woh did realize this dvd i just put in was 2hours 50minutes, oh well |
| 07:47.51 | Arrowmaster | s/did/didn't/ |
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| 07:55.00 | industrial | so LOTRO is going F2P |
| 07:55.13 | industrial | with a digital goods store |
| 07:55.35 | bleeter | Mr_Rabies: you own shattered horizon? does it normally sound like shit? |
| 07:55.57 | industrial | Digital stores suck ass if and when you are spending more a month on items then a subscription usually costs. |
| 07:56.10 | industrial | And people will. |
| 07:56.15 | industrial | And companies will reap. |
| 07:56.16 | bleeter | Mr_Rabies: I'm guessing not, so it must be doing something to my headphones to make it so bloody awful... game any good? should I bother trying to debug? ;) |
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| 08:19.53 | DJJeff | people on my server think I cant dps for shit but this prooved them wrong |
| 08:19.55 | DJJeff | http://i48.tinypic.com/9zx0ts.jpg |
| 08:20.01 | DJJeff | I am in #3 spot |
| 08:21.44 | industrial | haha dude last I played active - january - people were pulling 10k |
| 08:21.46 | DJJeff | could I do better then 5k avg? |
| 08:21.52 | industrial | yes. |
| 08:22.17 | industrial | 3k was naxx |
| 08:22.41 | DJJeff | but with the dps I have here people wont take me....... unless I pug icc10 |
| 08:22.45 | DJJeff | but whats shocking is |
| 08:22.51 | DJJeff | this screenshot... |
| 08:22.54 | DJJeff | all 10 people |
| 08:22.57 | DJJeff | were a pug |
| 08:23.06 | DJJeff | and I was raid leader |
| 08:23.30 | DJJeff | we made it past saurfang |
| 08:23.36 | DJJeff | with only 1 wipe on gunship |
| 08:23.46 | DJJeff | which was an acciedent |
| 08:23.51 | DJJeff | he fell off the side |
| 08:23.55 | DJJeff | funny really |
| 08:24.20 | industrial | Well that's how it works. Go join a raiding guild. |
| 08:24.27 | DJJeff | I love my 70 addons |
| 08:24.44 | Torhal | ... |
| 08:24.47 | DJJeff | 2 of the people in this 10 man icc pug |
| 08:24.52 | DJJeff | invited me to their guild |
| 08:28.49 | Zyn | you can't DPS! |
| 08:29.25 | DJJeff | shush you |
| 08:29.46 | DJJeff | I am #3 in this pic and we made it past saurfang |
| 08:29.50 | DJJeff | with only 1 wipe |
| 08:30.17 | DJJeff | its all about CO OP eration |
| 08:30.28 | DJJeff | you can have all the dps in the world and still fail |
| 08:30.36 | DJJeff | if people stand in the bad.... |
| 08:30.50 | DJJeff | and dont get the spikes down |
| 08:30.56 | Zyn | stand in fire, ????, profit |
| 08:31.18 | DJJeff | I just laugh so hard when people just almost /sit in the bad |
| 08:31.32 | DJJeff | heck even /sleep in the bad |
| 08:32.38 | Zyn | and this week I finally got my shadowmourne, but it has a problem ... pros : omigash the DPS! , cons : pretty much have to only autoattack in random dungeons to not overaggro >_> |
| 08:32.49 | Zyn | hit special, "AGGRO!" |
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| 08:39.13 | MoonWitch | knock knock, anybody here? |
| 08:39.21 | DJJeff | yup |
| 08:40.32 | MoonWitch | goodmorning |
| 08:40.55 | MoonWitch | I was going to ask if you recommended a specific VM for linux, but I believe youŕe a windows user |
| 08:41.16 | DJJeff | I use both XP and UBUNTU |
| 08:41.24 | MoonWitch | ah |
| 08:41.38 | MoonWitch | happen to know a lightweight vm? |
| 08:41.45 | MoonWitch | brb bathroom (I just woke up) |
| 08:44.27 | industrial | VirtualBox always works nice for me |
| 08:44.53 | industrial | that is - I usually use it on windows hosts to run linux. |
| 08:45.42 | Corrodias2 | annoying part about virtualbox: |
| 08:45.56 | bleeter | the big oracle sticker |
| 08:46.10 | Corrodias2 | if you don't go buying a license, using it in a corporate environment requires using the open source version, which isn't available (at least on the site) in 'binary' form. |
| 08:46.23 | Corrodias2 | at least it wasn't apparent to me |
| 08:48.11 | bleeter | because you really need USB over RDP? |
| 08:49.07 | Corrodias2 | heh yeah, we didn't need that, so we were going to use the open source version. |
| 08:50.31 | Corrodias2 | my co-worker got vmware server set up while i was still trying to figure out if vbox it was available in a compiled form. |
| 08:51.08 | Corrodias2 | i couldn't be bothered after that killed any incentive i had. |
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| 08:54.54 | MoonWitch | VirtualBox or VMWare Player is what I use at work, never gave me an issue btw |
| 08:55.12 | MoonWitch | Corrodias2: lemme find you the link for virtualbox :) |
| 08:55.40 | MoonWitch | Corrodias2: what OS is the host? |
| 08:56.15 | Corrodias2 | windows, XP specifically |
| 08:56.34 | MoonWitch | http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads and for XP it's : http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/3.2.2/VirtualBox-3.2.2-62321-Win.exe |
| 08:56.44 | Corrodias2 | and that's the open source edition? |
| 08:57.01 | MoonWitch | virtualbox is opensource :) |
| 08:57.16 | Corrodias2 | yes, but it has two versions, one of which is free to businesses, while the other is not. |
| 08:57.38 | MoonWitch | VirtualBox is a powerful x86 and AMD64/Intel64 virtualization product for enterprise as well as home use. Not only is VirtualBox an extremely feature rich, high performance product for enterprise customers, it is also the only professional solution that is freely available as Open Source Software under the terms of the GNU General Public License (GPL). See "About VirtualBox" for an introduction. |
| 08:57.50 | industrial | :> |
| 08:58.06 | industrial | pacman -S virtualbox <-- binary version installed \o/ |
| 08:58.21 | Corrodias2 | The full VirtualBox package is available in binary (executable) form free of charge from the Downloads page. This version is free for personal use and evaluation under the terms of the VirtualBox Personal Use and Evaluation License. |
| 08:58.29 | Corrodias2 | The VirtualBox Open Source Edition (OSE) is the one that has been released under the GPL and comes with complete source code. It is functionally equivalent to the full VirtualBox package, except for a few features that primarily target enterprise customers. This gives us a chance to generate revenue to fund further development of VirtualBox. |
| 08:58.40 | bleeter | http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Editions |
| 08:58.48 | bleeter | geeze paste the entire interwebs |
| 08:58.53 | Corrodias2 | it's two lines. |
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| 08:59.17 | MoonWitch | wb Cairenn *purr* |
| 08:59.27 | Cairenn | hey MoonWitch :) |
| 08:59.30 | Corrodias2 | but to summarize, the OSE is free for use, while the full package requires a paid license for non-personal use. |
| 09:00.02 | MoonWitch | never noticed to be honest |
| 09:00.08 | Corrodias2 | they don't make a big deal about that on the front page, but when looking for software for business use, you learn to spot things in the licensing. |
| 09:00.18 | MoonWitch | just go with VMWare Player then |
| 09:00.26 | MoonWitch | huggles Cairenn |
| 09:00.27 | Corrodias2 | not that i claim to be any expert on that. i just had to read that particular page. |
| 09:01.03 | Cairenn | hugs MoonWitch |
| 09:01.19 | Torhal | Screenshot or it didn't happen! |
| 09:01.28 | bleeter | ^^ |
| 09:01.37 | MoonWitch | is looking for a sexy theme for ubuntu |
| 09:02.30 | MoonWitch | that or i'm installing arch - freebsd will work too - but I'd rather give that an install in a vm |
| 09:02.51 | bleeter | MoonWitch: http://bit.ly/cJLKfn |
| 09:03.05 | Torhal | I'm rather liking Gentoo. |
| 09:03.13 | Corrodias2 | trying to make linux... -attractive-? SEXY THEMES? |
| 09:03.15 | bleeter | Torhal: that theme works on gentoo, too |
| 09:03.31 | MoonWitch | yeah but for some obscure reason every gentoo install I've tried screwed up my win install too |
| 09:03.37 | MoonWitch | probably PEBKAC though |
| 09:34.38 | Adys | !api GetCameraByIndex |
| 09:34.38 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'GetCameraByIndex'. |
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| 09:38.35 | jnwhiteh | Adys: would you expect that to be there? |
| 09:39.02 | jnwhiteh | The api master is a scan from 3.3.3 - 11723 |
| 09:40.56 | Adys | jnwhiteh: nvm, that was a C function |
| 09:41.03 | jnwhiteh | k :P |
| 09:41.18 | Adys | i saw it in the middle of a lua function dump i was curious |
| 09:41.47 | jnwhiteh | My scans are all done in-game, so what I see is limited =/ |
| 09:41.52 | jnwhiteh | but accurate |
| 09:42.02 | Adys | "limited"? |
| 09:42.08 | jnwhiteh | I wouldn't see anything like that |
| 09:42.15 | jnwhiteh | or functions that are implemented but not exposed |
| 09:42.20 | jnwhiteh | which you can get through other methods. |
| 09:42.24 | jnwhiteh | in theory =) |
| 09:42.26 | Adys | such as? |
| 09:42.47 | jnwhiteh | I think someone here had a method at one point to look at the executable |
| 09:42.49 | jnwhiteh | but I could be wrong |
| 09:42.55 | Adys | yeah |
| 09:42.57 | Adys | but i mean |
| 09:43.01 | Adys | how would you access any of them? |
| 09:43.07 | jnwhiteh | you wouldn't. |
| 09:43.09 | Adys | i dont think theres much useful to be documented in the low level C++ api |
| 09:43.13 | jnwhiteh | but knowing that they're there is different |
| 09:43.14 | jnwhiteh | no, there isn't. |
| 09:43.18 | jnwhiteh | its more interesting than anything :P |
| 09:43.22 | Adys | OH |
| 09:43.24 | Adys | i misunderstood you |
| 09:43.25 | Adys | [12:41:14] <@jnwhiteh> which you can get through other methods. |
| 09:44.35 | Adys | i tend to look at strings dump to help me situate assertions without firing a debugger |
| 09:44.41 | Adys | +s |
| 09:44.49 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
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| 10:01.05 | Fisker | hey hey hey jnwhiteh |
| 10:02.11 | Fisker | :( |
| 10:02.52 | Fisker | ;( |
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| 10:39.10 | Adys | whats this new ptr build? |
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| 10:44.27 | Adys | kd3: ping |
| 10:46.53 | Fisker | maybe they made battle.net 2.0 not suck? |
| 10:46.54 | Fisker | :3 |
| 10:48.20 | Arrowmaster | thats possible? |
| 10:49.00 | Arrowmaster | so are they putting the facebook thing in wow like they did with sc2? |
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| 10:55.31 | Arrowmaster | they really shouldnt but if they do i bet i could write a keylogger for it in pure lua and then use the battle.net messaging to send peoples facebook logins and passwords out to a dummy account |
| 10:56.40 | harl | oO |
| 10:57.43 | Arrowmaster | what, i totally could do it |
| 11:00.42 | harl | "Nope, you can't. We're unhackable. We're super-secure. And there aren't any gold sellers. It's all lies. Is there anything else I can help you with?" |
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| 11:11.55 | Fisker | hey harl |
| 11:11.58 | Fisker | i'm super secure |
| 11:12.15 | Arrowmaster | you you're super special |
| 11:13.03 | Fisker | awww thanks Arrowmaster |
| 11:13.11 | Fisker | you're my best friend |
| 11:13.15 | Fisker | *hugs Arrowmaster* |
| 11:13.28 | Arrowmaster | Fisker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQULnjBMFKA |
| 11:15.54 | Arrowmaster | i just had to do it |
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| 11:29.07 | MoonWitch | Arrowmaster: now you are making me watch Elfenlied, Blood+ and DeathNote again |
| 11:29.22 | Arrowmaster | deathnote sucked |
| 11:29.51 | MoonWitch | well you can see the theme I like - right? |
| 11:29.53 | Arrowmaster | or atleast the last 2/3s of it sucked |
| 11:30.28 | MoonWitch | I know nothing about anime -- so I have no clue what else to watch :P |
| 11:30.33 | MoonWitch | Ergo Proxy wasnt bad |
| 11:30.49 | Arrowmaster | last ep was a mind fuck but yeah it was good |
| 11:31.23 | A-KO | seeing people who shouldn't be in IT making IT decisions makes me cry :( |
| 11:31.37 | MoonWitch | A-KO: it makes me suicidal :P |
| 11:31.41 | A-KO | lol |
| 11:31.41 | MoonWitch | so I feel your pain |
| 11:31.48 | MoonWitch | *comfort* |
| 11:32.31 | A-KO | MoonWitch: some dude on another channel I'm in built out a system with 8 SAS HDDs, 2x quad-core Xeon CPUs, and 12GB of ram, Server 2008 R2..........for a 5-user environment he was hoping to do thin-clienting.....with domain and TS |
| 11:32.44 | A-KO | I was like "dude, you spent FAR more money on that than you needed to" |
| 11:32.56 | MoonWitch | well he can donate the HW to me :P |
| 11:33.01 | A-KO | I'd get 'em 5 desktops + a NAS and redirect "My Documents" and be done with it |
| 11:34.24 | Arrowmaster | MoonWitch: watch Shigofumi |
| 11:35.36 | MoonWitch | trailer looks sad .. |
| 11:35.38 | MoonWitch | I'll like it |
| 11:35.53 | Arrowmaster | and of course everybody must watch Baccano! |
| 11:36.01 | MoonWitch | do you speak japanese? |
| 11:36.02 | Arrowmaster | even my mom has seen Baccano! |
| 11:36.04 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 11:36.24 | msoul | is it a tv show? |
| 11:36.26 | msoul | googling |
| 11:36.49 | MoonWitch | Elfenlied was my fave :) even have the themesong on my phone lol |
| 11:36.52 | Arrowmaster | msoul: anime, so yes |
| 11:37.02 | msoul | yeah found it |
| 11:37.22 | MoonWitch | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_1VgAH_xYI |
| 11:37.38 | msoul | and everybody should NOT see sex and the city 2, if your wife/gf/companion force you to go with him /wrist |
| 11:37.55 | msoul | didn't have anything sharp to do see when i was there :/ |
| 11:38.04 | msoul | s.see.so |
| 11:38.23 | MoonWitch | nice graphics in Baccano |
| 11:38.24 | msoul | btw Arrowmaster |
| 11:38.31 | msoul | how long has it been for you without playing WoW=? |
| 11:39.39 | Arrowmaster | i stopped raiding and playing january 09 but i logged in for the holiday events in 09 until i got the violet protodrake during brewfest, account has been canceled since december 31st 09 |
| 11:40.13 | MoonWitch | NICE -- I am soo watching Baccano |
| 11:40.37 | msoul | sometimes i feel like getting back to WoW |
| 11:41.16 | Arrowmaster | MoonWitch: its a very unique show, they jump all around the timeline so you have to really pay attention |
| 11:42.31 | MoonWitch | we;; after that scene |
| 11:42.35 | MoonWitch | it can not be bad :) |
| 11:42.41 | Arrowmaster | when i watched it a 2nd time a picked up so many little details because i knew the entire storeline |
| 11:52.05 | MoonWitch | yay |
| 11:52.12 | MoonWitch | in about a week I'll have my laptop |
| 11:52.15 | MoonWitch | :) |
| 11:54.08 | MoonWitch | wow I am blonde |
| 11:54.20 | MoonWitch | I am sitting here "damn the light is too hot, turning it off" |
| 11:54.31 | MoonWitch | next thought " i can't see jack shit on my keyboard" |
| 11:54.43 | MoonWitch | I completely forgot my keyboard has a backlight option :P |
| 11:56.41 | Fisker | so Arrowmaster |
| 11:57.07 | Fisker | Couldn' blizzard just like hide the info from connecting to facebook or something? |
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| 11:59.39 | Xethron | God day everyone! |
| 12:02.04 | MoonWitch | god day to you |
| 12:02.32 | Arrowmaster | Fisker: as long as you enter it ingame i bet i could intercept it using pure lua |
| 12:12.06 | Adys | kd3? |
| 12:13.44 | Xethron | Good day MoonWitch |
| 12:14.46 | Fisker | you wouldn't even have to read the input field would you Arrowmaster ? |
| 12:15.35 | Arrowmaster | hell could probably just secure hook the function |
| 12:16.01 | foxlit | what are we hooking? |
| 12:16.17 | Arrowmaster | which is why theres no way in hell anybody would let that slip by so they wouldnt add that facebook feature ingame like it is in sc2 |
| 12:17.37 | Arrowmaster | foxlit: the 'enter your facebook login and password to find your friends battle.net realid's' feature that is in sc2 |
| 12:18.22 | Fisker | man Battle.net 2.0 disappoints me so much |
| 12:19.03 | A-KO | why? |
| 12:20.10 | Fisker | Failbook integration, no cross-region chat, and then there's all the SC2 specific stuff with maps and mods |
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| 12:22.03 | A-KO | I thought bnet2.0 will have full on chat similar to Steam, no matter what game people are playing? |
| 12:22.30 | Maldivia | except for cross-region |
| 12:22.47 | Maldivia | so if you're playing on wow-us, you can't talk to people over b.net that are playing sc2-eu |
| 12:22.59 | Fisker | and you don't have chatrooms like Steam |
| 12:23.01 | foxlit | Realistically, I don't see a point in chatting with people you cannot play with from within a game. |
| 12:23.03 | A-KO | eh I'm sure that'll make it in eventually |
| 12:23.10 | Fisker | or any kind of community feature as such |
| 12:23.33 | A-KO | foxlit: neither do I tbh, but sometimes it's good to just chat with buddies--which is why an IM client would actually be more useful if they want to have the "no-gaming" chat thing going on. |
| 12:23.34 | Maldivia | foxlit: I have a wow-eu and wow-us account, it's anoying that I can't talk to people from wow-eu, when I'm on wow-us |
| 12:23.39 | Fisker | That's just another limitation they have set |
| 12:23.45 | Arrowmaster | you can use steam chat without being in any game, you can only use bnet2.0 while inside wow, sc2, and eventually diablo3 |
| 12:23.46 | Fisker | besides some people do have us and eu accounts |
| 12:23.59 | A-KO | raises hand |
| 12:24.06 | Fisker | Well they did say they were planning on a "Battle.net client" of sorts |
| 12:24.09 | foxlit | some people are /weird/ :) |
| 12:24.21 | A-KO | I don't see anything wrong with FB integration, a lot of people want it |
| 12:24.30 | A-KO | even if you don't and think facebook sucks or w/e have you |
| 12:24.34 | A-KO | that's not a large majority of people |
| 12:24.40 | Arrowmaster | i havent heard of anybody wanting it |
| 12:24.41 | cbreak | there will be an Auction House app for the iPhone I think. |
| 12:24.47 | A-KO | cbreak: it's already out in beta |
| 12:24.51 | cbreak | from there to a chat app it's not that a big leap |
| 12:24.57 | Maldivia | they should just add Steam intregration, so b.net and steam could chat with eachother |
| 12:25.00 | foxlit | The general effect, I think, is "zomg, they aren't' catering to ME. HOW DARE THEY?!" |
| 12:25.02 | Arrowmaster | and its not 'FB integration' its just a simple user import |
| 12:25.41 | A-KO | so you can import your facebook friends that play WoW/Blizzard games? I don't see anything wrong with that |
| 12:25.41 | cbreak | it has to export data to that face thing too |
| 12:25.53 | cbreak | at the least it has to mark your account as SC2 owning |
| 12:26.03 | cbreak | so your "friends" can detect it and add you |
| 12:26.05 | A-KO | If you don't liek it don't use it, but I've already got an account on FB--so my soul is already sold :P |
| 12:26.25 | Fisker | Well as i understand it, you login to your facebook account, then it tries to addon everyone on your facebook as real id friends |
| 12:26.30 | Arrowmaster | cbreak: i dont think it does, otherwise it would have showed up on facebook when i used it |
| 12:26.50 | cbreak | how else can it add sc2 players? |
| 12:27.00 | A-KO | cbreak: what Arrowmaster is saying is that it works the other way |
| 12:27.01 | Arrowmaster | i think they just add your facebook profile to their own database |
| 12:27.03 | Fisker | To my knowledge i, if i used Facebook, can't opt-out of being added, that is just control i want to have |
| 12:27.07 | cbreak | it's not like either in-game or real names are unique on either the face thing or starcraft |
| 12:27.20 | cbreak | hmm, that's a method |
| 12:27.29 | Arrowmaster | its the only method they could use |
| 12:28.10 | A-KO | It's not adding your WoW friends on Facebook--it's adding your Facebook friends to your Battle net friend's list or w/e |
| 12:28.16 | A-KO | meh, no big deal |
| 12:29.07 | Fisker | it's the latter i meant |
| 12:29.25 | A-KO | I dunno I like the idea |
| 12:29.36 | Fisker | and it's absolutely no big deal to me since i don't use facebook |
| 12:29.50 | A-KO | I rather enjoy social networking |
| 12:30.11 | A-KO | I've redefined privacy for myself though, I live a bit more with an open sleeve than most people online do |
| 12:30.49 | cbreak | I don't do stuff that claims to be "social" |
| 12:31.09 | cbreak | well... I do use IRC though |
| 12:31.15 | cbreak | and e-mail |
| 12:31.24 | cbreak | hmm... I guess I am social after all... |
| 12:31.30 | A-KO | cbreak: yeah, but the benefits outweigh the risks--so they sell your personal information to some crappy company, FB doesn't ask for anything important (bank details, etc)--and at the least it's kept me in touch with former coworkers and bosses in case I ever need a job :P |
| 12:31.54 | cbreak | my bank details aren't really secret |
| 12:32.21 | cbreak | I give them to people who send me money or I send money to |
| 12:32.29 | A-KO | plus, it also helps make people a little more....."real"......so to speak....working in an office, many people are so fake.......facebook actually helps with inter-office interaction.... |
| 12:32.33 | Xethron | bbl |
| 12:32.34 | A-KO | from my experiences and watching people :P |
| 12:32.49 | cbreak | doesn't work in a normal office |
| 12:32.54 | cbreak | I am lucky :) |
| 12:33.04 | A-KO | lol |
| 12:33.23 | MoonWitch | wow I decided to check my gs .. |
| 12:33.33 | cbreak | that gear score thing? |
| 12:33.55 | MoonWitch | how disappointed I am - but I can understand why I can't get into pug raids - even though it's total bs |
| 12:34.01 | MoonWitch | 5.4k |
| 12:34.11 | A-KO | You know there are clearly defined limitations in an office that don't exist on facebook--that said, you obviously shouldn't be too off the deep end (racial hate groups, racial slurs, anything super out there)--but honestly, posting drunk pictures of your weekend parties is probably going to help your work life more than hurt it |
| 12:34.16 | A-KO | contrary to what blogs may have you thik |
| 12:34.53 | cbreak | someone told me mine is 5.7 k or so |
| 12:35.07 | A-KO | mine's 5783 and I haven't played in many months |
| 12:35.09 | cbreak | but I can't get into raids since 75% of my guild stopped playing :( |
| 12:35.11 | A-KO | either way MoonWitch, 5.4K isn't low |
| 12:35.20 | A-KO | it's not terrible, not the greatest, but not errible |
| 12:35.27 | A-KO | don't pug, join a guild |
| 12:35.40 | MoonWitch | the kicker is -- my gear (disc) is mainly 251 |
| 12:35.42 | A-KO | guilds are usually in a position to make a more informed decision about someone than pugs are |
| 12:35.56 | MoonWitch | actually I am in a guild but we hardly get ICC10 going |
| 12:36.08 | A-KO | so join a different guild |
| 12:36.12 | MoonWitch | we skipped Ulduar, ToTc 10/25 etc |
| 12:36.14 | A-KO | it's just WoW |
| 12:36.30 | MoonWitch | I'd feel guilty if I did :( |
| 12:36.32 | Fisker | yay i have 6253! |
| 12:36.33 | A-KO | once you gquit or the guild splits up you'll forget about those people in a few months |
| 12:36.48 | A-KO | I've been in a number of guilds and I can't remember a vast majority of the players I've raided with |
| 12:36.50 | A-KO | only a select few |
| 12:37.04 | A-KO | hell in some cases I can't even remember the guilds themselves :P |
| 12:37.11 | cbreak | I've lead my own guild since five years or so. I can't leave. |
| 12:37.19 | cbreak | but I am not sure how much longer it exists :/ |
| 12:37.52 | A-KO | I keep trying to find a guild that is actually *good*, and I don't mean raids 6 days a week for 6 hours a night--just a guild that I can join up with 2 nights/week and just stomp through bosses. |
| 12:37.56 | A-KO | extend timers as needed |
| 12:37.59 | A-KO | but still get the job done |
| 12:38.11 | MoonWitch | A-KO: sounds like what I want |
| 12:38.21 | MoonWitch | do you play US, EU, RU, KO? |
| 12:38.24 | A-KO | US |
| 12:38.24 | cbreak | have you tried making one? |
| 12:38.34 | A-KO | cbreak: I did back in TBC, but I might consider it come Cataclysm |
| 12:38.37 | MoonWitch | yeah then it won't work out |
| 12:38.45 | MoonWitch | I suck at leading I think |
| 12:38.50 | MoonWitch | I'd be too strict |
| 12:38.52 | A-KO | with the whole 10-man reduced raid sizes, I think I can successfully get one together now. |
| 12:39.15 | A-KO | MoonWitch: the idea is to have a guild with enough competent players where you don't have to be strict on anything, the players just "know". |
| 12:39.25 | MoonWitch | eg. raid start is listed at 19.30, then I do mean 19.30. Don't show up at 20.00 or even later and expect us to be waiting for you with your spot open |
| 12:39.33 | foxlit | "and just stomp through bosses." << heroic LK included, or are there limits to your ambitions? |
| 12:39.55 | MoonWitch | the above is my guild.. we at times end up waiting for one or 2 for an hour |
| 12:39.55 | A-KO | foxlit: no limits--you don't need 6 hours 6 nights of raiding to actually down bosses |
| 12:40.22 | A-KO | you can raid 2 nights/week, maybe even a little earlier on a Sunday and extend timers |
| 12:40.24 | A-KO | and just work on stuff |
| 12:40.36 | MoonWitch | A-KO: personally, I consider it respect for people to show up on time. But that's just me - apparently |
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| 12:40.49 | A-KO | MoonWitch: I do, as well--but like I said, which is why I'll try forming a group in Cataclysm |
| 12:40.57 | A-KO | so a 10 man group isn't a stepping stone to a 25 |
| 12:41.14 | A-KO | it's too hard to do that kind of control in a 25-man group because of the unfortunate aspects of being human |
| 12:41.17 | foxlit | A-KO: Thing is, we can stomp most heroic content on 1 night. |
| 12:41.34 | foxlit | Extending timers is a failure anyway |
| 12:41.37 | A-KO | for example, you won't gquit because you'd feel guilty--the same thing happens with gkicking, etc. |
| 12:41.43 | foxlit | The other 5 are for content that you can't do. |
| 12:41.54 | A-KO | foxlit: I don't think it's a failure, it's just people don't actually use them |
| 12:42.08 | A-KO | though that's also partially blizzard's fault with the badge system |
| 12:42.20 | foxlit | A-KO: generally, you lose loot by extending lockouts |
| 12:42.29 | teetow | we use raid lockouts fairly often in my guild |
| 12:42.37 | teetow | working on uld achievements etc |
| 12:42.38 | foxlit | Hence, unless you're doing something very weird, it's almost always better to start a fresh raid. |
| 12:43.26 | A-KO | foxlit: the idea is that loot wouldn't be the primary driver of the guild's goals, but rather getting bosses down--loot helps, but you know, there's nothing wrong with extending a timer every other week to continue pushing. |
| 12:43.39 | A-KO | reset every other week, work on bosses for 2 weeks at a time, at less frequent raiding schedules |
| 12:43.52 | A-KO | with good players, not the crap you largely see today |
| 12:44.04 | A-KO | it's a bit of a WoW utopia it seems :P but might be possible in Cataclysm |
| 12:44.10 | foxlit | I'm not sure why that model would be attractive to "good" players. |
| 12:44.59 | A-KO | foxlit: I know many game players that are fairly competent but don't actually have the time to raid super hardcore. I guess I'm kind of ruling out the high school/college crowd who have nothing else to do with themselves. But most of my friends are pushing 30 these days, and we grew up with games. |
| 12:45.47 | A-KO | besides |
| 12:45.50 | foxlit | If your raid is competent, you don't need more /time/ to do bosses. |
| 12:45.53 | foxlit | You need better gear. |
| 12:46.07 | foxlit | Extending lockouts is thus shooting yourself in the foot. |
| 12:46.33 | foxlit | Since ICC can basically be cleared in one night. |
| 12:46.58 | A-KO | I'm talking new content, ICC was not cleared in one night by a majority of guilds when it came out... |
| 12:47.06 | A-KO | in fact, that's a pretty recent development |
| 12:47.09 | foxlit | Mostly because it was gated. |
| 12:47.31 | A-KO | even now, that's a recent development--it hasn't been gated for months |
| 12:47.34 | A-KO | since what? early March? |
| 12:47.45 | A-KO | it's been 3 months now not-gated... |
| 12:48.56 | Fisker | lich king was killed like a few days after it was available |
| 12:49.19 | foxlit | And even then, I fear you're making the opposite point |
| 12:49.44 | foxlit | If new content isn't being cleared in one night, what's stopping people from doing so? |
| 12:49.49 | foxlit | Incompetence or lack of gear? |
| 12:50.05 | Arrowmaster | MoonWitch: do you watch subs or dubs? |
| 12:50.06 | A-KO | for a vast majority of groups, it's the former |
| 12:50.30 | A-KO | the most hardcore groups got LK HM down before they had a substantial amount of HM gear also |
| 12:50.53 | A-KO | so it's definitely doable |
| 12:51.32 | MoonWitch | uhm no Arrowmaster |
| 12:51.41 | A-KO | Arrowmaster: subs here :P |
| 12:52.19 | MoonWitch | need to go study :) |
| 12:52.23 | MoonWitch | see you guys later |
| 12:52.40 | Arrowmaster | MoonWitch: do you watch anime with subtitles or do you watch with voiceover dubs |
| 12:52.57 | cbreak | what kind of barbarian would watch dubs? |
| 12:53.47 | Arrowmaster | i just found out this already creepy scene is just completely over the top creepy with dubs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gal1R5LAX6w |
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| 12:56.22 | teetow | I think you misspelled "crappy" there, arrow |
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| 13:21.58 | DWSR | Who here has a droid device? I'm trying to get the spacing between icons on the home screen to be a little smaller. |
| 13:22.54 | Fisker | get a custom launcher |
| 13:23.47 | DWSR | Suggestions? |
| 13:24.17 | Fisker | nope :P |
| 13:25.29 | Fisker | http://jbthemes.com/anderweb/ |
| 13:25.34 | Fisker | dunno if it has what you want though |
| 13:27.40 | Shirik | so apparently Windows can't have a foldername that starts with a dot |
| 13:27.50 | Arrowmaster | it can |
| 13:27.58 | Shirik | it keeps yelling at me |
| 13:27.59 | Fisker | works fine here as well |
| 13:28.01 | Shirik | saying I need a name |
| 13:28.01 | Arrowmaster | explorer just wont let you create one |
| 13:28.04 | Shirik | o |
| 13:28.14 | Arrowmaster | use the command line |
| 13:28.18 | Fisker | lol |
| 13:28.19 | teetow | or get Total Commander |
| 13:28.23 | Fisker | that's kinda silly |
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| 13:37.53 | DWSR | Or.... just name it with a . in front. |
| 13:42.35 | Fisker | wat |
| 13:42.36 | Fisker | WAT. |
| 13:43.49 | Shirik | DWSR |
| 13:43.53 | Shirik | it says |
| 13:44.01 | DWSR | Shirik |
| 13:44.05 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 13:44.08 | Fisker | i love you |
| 13:44.10 | Shirik | You must type a file name |
| 13:44.14 | Fisker | do you love me? |
| 13:44.17 | Shirik | if I try to use folder name ".lol" |
| 13:44.31 | Shirik | imo this is a bug |
| 13:44.36 | teetow | Shirik: like I said, it's not an actual limitation of NTFS, it's just explorer being... explorer |
| 13:45.00 | teetow | one of a gazillion reasons to switch to a better file manager, like TC |
| 13:45.02 | Shirik | teetow: saw that, except you idn't say that, |
| 13:45.09 | teetow | oh, I didn't =) |
| 13:45.10 | teetow | sorry |
| 13:45.10 | Shirik | but I was talking to DWSR |
| 13:45.24 | Shirik | who said to give it a name with a . in front |
| 13:45.26 | teetow | I'm pretty sure I thought it, though. |
| 13:45.28 | Shirik | and I was like "wtf you smoking" |
| 13:45.49 | DWSR | Shirik: Oh, I patched my Explorer. |
| 13:45.53 | Shirik | failure |
| 13:45.53 | DWSR | Right, forgot about that. |
| 13:45.59 | DWSR | Heh. |
| 13:46.02 | DWSR | l2notfail. |
| 13:46.17 | Shirik | no |
| 13:46.17 | Shirik | u |
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| 13:46.53 | Fisker | patched it with what? |
| 13:46.59 | Fisker | your mom? |
| 13:47.49 | krka | good luck to you foxlit! |
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| 14:18.04 | ScytheBlade1 | So who else is working REALLY SUCKY HOURS this weekend? |
| 14:18.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Like 6:00 AM to 1:00 AM? |
| 14:18.37 | Fisker | nice |
| 14:18.45 | Fisker | moorestown mobiles can play WoW |
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| 14:49.50 | haste | Fisker: welcome to wine |
| 14:58.43 | Cairenn | Holy Shit! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P--9bwGan_U |
| 14:58.51 | Fisker | slaps haste around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:58.56 | Fisker | old haste |
| 14:59.12 | Fisker | hickinbottom? |
| 14:59.13 | Fisker | wtf? |
| 15:02.21 | haste | Fisker: you should go make a "first" comment somewhere |
| 15:03.10 | Fisker | nah |
| 15:03.19 | Fisker | i need a new motherboard |
| 15:05.23 | Fisker | haste |
| 15:05.29 | Fisker | exterminate |
| 15:08.03 | MoonWitch | Cairenn: what a name the kid has |
| 15:08.14 | haste | fix the damn 4chan extension to work under firefox 3.7 Fisker ! |
| 15:08.35 | Cairenn | Name? What a voice she has! |
| 15:08.46 | MoonWitch | hey I hadnt gotten to that part yet |
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| 15:09.06 | Cairenn | I have goosebumps! |
| 15:10.07 | MoonWitch | I wish she had chosen a different songs for her own sake |
| 15:10.14 | MoonWitch | she'll be bullied over this one in school |
| 15:10.29 | Cairenn | I highly doubt it |
| 15:10.39 | MoonWitch | and her - brother or something - WTF at his tshirt |
| 15:10.43 | Cairenn | Not considering |
| 15:11.00 | teetow | what are you watching? |
| 15:11.10 | haste | youtube url above |
| 15:11.16 | MoonWitch | also - 10 yr old and freaking high heels?????? |
| 15:11.25 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 15:11.27 | teetow | oh |
| 15:11.38 | MoonWitch | but yes, good voice |
| 15:11.51 | MoonWitch | I am just curious how she will do on other songs though |
| 15:12.18 | Cairenn | With a voice like that? She'll be amazing |
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| 15:13.25 | MoonWitch | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wusdUgpiNTg&feature=channel wtf but funny as hell |
| 15:16.44 | MoonWitch | btw Cairenn - have ya seen the funny ones? |
| 15:16.57 | Cairenn | some |
| 15:17.06 | MoonWitch | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf0gBXjKE-4&playnext_from=SL (he's going to breakdancing for 5 yrs) |
| 15:17.10 | MoonWitch | been* |
| 15:17.37 | MoonWitch | sure he's not the best breakdancer, but he's 73~~ |
| 15:17.45 | Cairenn | heh, yeah |
| 15:20.27 | MoonWitch | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFLw8aH-M2w&feature=channel how do you go about becoming a flatulist?? |
| 15:20.41 | MoonWitch | it's the grossest thing ever |
| 15:21.43 | Kalroth | farts in MoonWitch's direction |
| 15:23.09 | MoonWitch | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7ZnNPzEBU4&feature=channel |
| 15:25.17 | haste | Fisker: http://images.4chan.org/b/src/1275751222131.jpg |
| 15:26.09 | MoonWitch | lol haste |
| 15:27.02 | haste | think it's still there if they haven't re-done it yet :P |
| 15:28.33 | MoonWitch | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly3wMKDVFWY Just a thought, but isn't there anyone in the family or friends of ppl who is honest enough to say "you are not a singer, don't do it." |
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| 15:29.17 | haste | http://x0.no/17m2 still there :3 |
| 15:29.18 | Fisker | i want my damn case though haste |
| 15:29.20 | Fisker | can you do it? |
| 15:29.31 | haste | no |
| 15:30.19 | MoonWitch | how the heck do you know when google is passing by :P |
| 15:30.45 | haste | they probably heard it was in town and just sat there camping |
| 15:30.49 | Fisker | but it's a major breach of security haste |
| 15:30.53 | haste | you can see them sitting there waiting for it :P |
| 15:31.01 | Fisker | IF THEY CAN HACK GOOGLE THEY CAN HACK ANYTHING |
| 15:31.20 | Fisker | pretty bold thing to do haste |
| 15:31.35 | haste | ! |
| 15:31.35 | Fisker | here there are a lot of small ways not done or done a completely different day |
| 15:31.43 | Fisker | small roads |
| 15:31.50 | Fisker | it's actually kinda weird |
| 15:31.56 | Fisker | why not just do it right away? |
| 15:32.20 | haste | there's also some image of the google car meeting the norwegian street view service in a roundabout |
| 15:32.41 | Fisker | nice |
| 15:32.43 | Fisker | sauce |
| 15:32.45 | Fisker | in my pants |
| 15:32.53 | Fisker | i want them to be done mapping denmark already |
| 15:32.57 | Fisker | so we can get navigation |
| 15:33.07 | haste | how can they not be done :p ? |
| 15:33.18 | haste | they've even managed to map Oslo in 3D here |
| 15:33.28 | Fisker | that's only oslo! |
| 15:33.50 | haste | yes, but the rest of the country is pretty much done in 2D! |
| 15:34.06 | Fisker | In my city they mapped 2 roads |
| 15:34.07 | Fisker | :P |
| 15:34.25 | Fisker | I think they use their street view cars for 2D as well |
| 15:34.25 | haste | they've mapped everything where I live >:3 |
| 15:34.36 | haste | but street view is incomplete |
| 15:34.44 | haste | they were driving around in march I think |
| 15:36.41 | Fisker | there's a lot missing here i can see |
| 15:36.51 | Fisker | outside of the big cities of course |
| 15:37.30 | Fisker | the whole upper part of norway has no streetview at all |
| 15:37.38 | haste | they've done street view for past the drive-in to our street |
| 15:37.47 | Fisker | and there's a huge hole between oslo and bergen |
| 15:38.08 | haste | street view is something they started on in february or so Fisker |
| 15:38.30 | haste | and there's been a lot of shtity weather preventing them from doing any more :P |
| 15:38.57 | Fisker | they still got to get their map data though |
| 15:39.04 | MoonWitch | I can't even find anything in belgium on it lol |
| 15:39.06 | Wobin | haha http://screencast.com/t/ZDkyZTk3MT |
| 15:39.22 | Fisker | if you haven't realized most of the scandinavian data(which they haven't gotten themselves through streeview) is licensed by Tele Atlas |
| 15:39.24 | Wobin | evidence of Blizzard farming gold =P |
| 15:39.29 | Fisker | and they don't allow them to use it for GPS purposes |
| 15:39.31 | Wobin | s/farming/selling/ |
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| 15:41.14 | haste | I don't get it Wobin |
| 15:42.20 | Wobin | selling a crafted blue for 4k? |
| 15:42.35 | Wobin | They're obviously transferring gold across accounts |
| 15:42.50 | MoonWitch | hey -- you could have someone buying it who is quitting the game |
| 15:42.51 | haste | but it isn't evidence that blizzard is farming gold :P |
| 15:43.21 | Wobin | no, selling =P |
| 15:43.34 | haste | so it's from their example images? |
| 15:43.36 | Wobin | That sort of sale would normally flag an account! |
| 15:44.10 | MoonWitch | why would the SALE flag an account |
| 15:44.17 | MoonWitch | say I put something up there for 40g |
| 15:44.22 | MoonWitch | someone bids 4k |
| 15:44.37 | MoonWitch | if they want to flag an account, it should be the bidder's :P |
| 15:44.38 | Wobin | yes |
| 15:44.42 | Wobin | they're bidding for it in that image |
| 15:44.53 | Wobin | The -seller- is 'Goodknight' |
| 15:45.00 | Wobin | the buyer is the owner of the app |
| 15:45.15 | haste | I still don't know where the images are from |
| 15:45.23 | MoonWitch | also -- why the discrimination towards non-iphones? |
| 15:45.28 | Wobin | from the armory iphone app page |
| 15:45.36 | haste | then it can be a fake example |
| 15:45.38 | haste | easy as that |
| 15:45.44 | Wobin | >< |
| 15:45.46 | haste | or something _they_ themselves put out to test |
| 15:45.51 | Wobin | rolls his eyes |
| 15:45.51 | haste | in after conspiracy |
| 15:45.55 | Wobin | I'm sorry |
| 15:45.58 | A-KO | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItZyaOlrb7E < Lol |
| 15:46.01 | Wobin | YOU'RE RUINING THE JOKE |
| 15:46.07 | Wobin | geez |
| 15:46.14 | haste | oh noes |
| 15:46.27 | Wobin | worst straight man -EVER- |
| 15:46.38 | Wobin | Fisker would have picked that up and ran with it =P |
| 15:46.42 | haste | I'm too tired of omg blizzard conspiracies! |
| 15:46.58 | Wobin | omg, Carcassone for iphone |
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| 15:47.09 | MoonWitch | SEERAH! |
| 15:47.16 | Seerah | hi-lo :) |
| 15:47.23 | MoonWitch | and they just killed the song for me |
| 15:47.32 | MoonWitch | I loved Sharp Dressed Man |
| 15:47.34 | MoonWitch | :( |
| 15:47.51 | MoonWitch | btw the drummer is kick-ass |
| 15:48.00 | A-KO | I think I've got a hairy back :( |
| 15:48.10 | MoonWitch | congratulations ...? |
| 15:48.15 | MoonWitch | need a razor? |
| 15:48.21 | A-KO | I think so |
| 15:48.28 | A-KO | I need one on like an extendable pole though |
| 15:48.28 | MoonWitch | hell even I don't know an appropriate reply to that statement |
| 15:48.29 | A-KO | so I can reach |
| 15:48.46 | Wobin | MoonWitch, the whole point of that video |
| 15:48.48 | Wobin | is the drummer =P |
| 15:48.54 | A-KO | yeah |
| 15:48.55 | MoonWitch | yeah the drummer is good |
| 15:49.05 | MoonWitch | but the jacket kills it |
| 15:49.06 | Wobin | the song is irrelevant |
| 15:49.16 | Wobin | A-KO, I suggest nair |
| 15:49.21 | A-KO | buddy of mine (whos' been a drummer for, I dunno, about 15 years) goes "dude, this guy is my hero!" lol |
| 15:49.33 | A-KO | wobin: I wonder what would happen if you took a bath in nair |
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| 15:49.37 | A-KO | probably wouldn't feel that good |
| 15:49.42 | A-KO | but would make for an interesting internet video |
| 15:49.45 | MoonWitch | you get burned skin |
| 15:49.57 | MoonWitch | and you would - as a male - be going to the doctors fast |
| 15:50.04 | MoonWitch | as a woman to a gyno very fast |
| 15:50.06 | Wobin | A-KO, You -probably- don't want to get nair into any body orifices |
| 15:50.17 | Wobin | just sayin |
| 15:50.37 | Cairenn | cringes |
| 15:50.46 | Fisker | btw jnwhiteh |
| 15:51.26 | haste | http://izismile.com/img/img2/20091214/nair_01.jpg comes to mind |
| 15:51.36 | MoonWitch | NOOO |
| 15:51.41 | MoonWitch | I want to unsee that soo bad |
| 15:51.52 | teetow | so not climing |
| 15:51.55 | teetow | clicking* |
| 15:53.22 | A-KO | lol haste |
| 15:56.34 | MoonWitch | alrighty |
| 15:56.40 | MoonWitch | I gotta get studying again |
| 15:56.41 | Wobin | now you know |
| 15:57.25 | Wobin | A-KO, you could always get your back waxed |
| 15:57.36 | Wobin | Nair might be less painful though |
| 15:57.41 | MoonWitch | that depends |
| 15:57.48 | MoonWitch | I've done waxing, nair, shaving |
| 15:57.59 | MoonWitch | honestly, Nair for me is more painful than waxing |
| 15:58.11 | MoonWitch | but --- I react allergically to the chemicals |
| 15:58.17 | Wobin | although, I guess the issue here is "Will A-KO have -help-" |
| 15:58.30 | A-KO | yeah I don't think I can wax my own back, I guess it depends on how much is there |
| 15:58.49 | Wobin | Go to a waxing parlour and have it done? |
| 16:01.16 | A-KO | hmm |
| 16:01.46 | Torhal | Or you could do like my cat and rub yourself against cement. |
| 16:01.48 | Torhal | :D |
| 16:03.52 | A-KO | lol |
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| 16:09.01 | Wobin | or rub a cat up against your back |
| 16:09.07 | Wobin | like a loofah |
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| 16:09.58 | Seerah | 50 mins |
| 16:13.14 | |Jelly| | 50/17/4 dps dk /facepalm |
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| 16:25.41 | Adys | Blizzcon ticket sale in 35 minutes |
| 16:28.50 | foxlit | round ends in 72 seconds |
| 16:28.55 | foxlit | Will I get a T-shirt? |
| 16:29.26 | foxlit | Will krka? |
| 16:29.54 | krka | nope |
| 16:30.05 | krka | you might i guess |
| 16:30.10 | krka | i am the sux |
| 16:30.29 | foxlit | R2 is always humbling :( |
| 16:30.35 | krka | nope, not for me |
| 16:30.41 | krka | grats to you though! |
| 16:30.57 | foxlit | Heh, it worked |
| 16:31.38 | foxlit | Nobody seems to like geometry. |
| 16:31.47 | krka | indeed |
| 16:31.51 | Fisker | imma buy all blizzcon tickets |
| 16:31.52 | krka | i worked on that one for a while |
| 16:31.52 | Fisker | in the world |
| 16:32.00 | krka | but i was completely off, and debugging geometry is hard |
| 16:32.17 | foxlit | krka: you could hack-solve the small case |
| 16:32.32 | foxlit | It's basically finding the area of intersection of two circles. |
| 16:32.32 | krka | hack? |
| 16:32.35 | krka | i know |
| 16:32.42 | krka | debugging the math is hard |
| 16:32.58 | foxlit | Mm. Cosine rule is evil. |
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| 16:39.13 | Fisker | http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/06/asus-concept-hydra-motherboard4364.jpg <-nice heatsink bro |
| 16:44.45 | *** join/#wowuidev Cide (~Cide@hus110a.bobbnet.com) |
| 16:46.18 | *** join/#wowuidev Cide (~Cide@hus110a.bobbnet.com) |
| 16:46.19 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Cide] by ChanServ |
| 16:47.18 | Cide | hi |
| 16:47.24 | Adys | hi Cide! |
| 16:48.26 | haste | hi |
| 16:48.26 | Fisker | agree with me Cide |
| 16:48.29 | Fisker | http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/06/asus-concept-hydra-motherboard4364.jpg |
| 16:48.57 | Cide | yes |
| 16:50.22 | Fisker | lol'd? |
| 16:50.46 | Cide | yep |
| 16:51.19 | Fisker | me too! |
| 16:51.20 | Fisker | you rock! |
| 16:52.00 | Adys | Ticket sale in 10 minutes |
| 16:52.29 | Cide | uh ohhhhh |
| 16:52.43 | Cide | maybe I should purchase tons and tons and sell them for $$$$ to you Adys |
| 16:52.59 | Fisker | what's the link again? |
| 16:53.00 | Adys | well i wouldn't mind if you did, I have 5 tickets to buy this round |
| 16:53.16 | Cide | well it would cost you over $9000 |
| 16:53.30 | Shadowed | more like |
| 16:53.33 | Shadowed | 6 minutes |
| 16:53.38 | Shadowed | 24 seconds |
| 16:53.53 | Adys | Shadowed: ITS OPEN |
| 16:53.54 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Shadowed -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ || 3.3.x ToC: 30300 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Blizzcon 2010 Oct 22 & 23! || 3.3.5 PTR Patch Notes are up: http://cot.ag/bY6mEm || BlizzCon Tickets on Sale June 2 & 5 http://cot.ag/9ceCch || AVR broken in 3.3.5 http://cot.ag/aYo2YE || Start your eng--fingers! |
| 16:53.56 | Adys | GOGOGO. |
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| 16:56.08 | Cide | lies |
| 16:56.11 | Cide | filthy liezz |
| 16:57.13 | Cide | so what's the procedure anyway? |
| 16:57.18 | Shadowed | hit f5 |
| 16:57.20 | Shadowed | pray |
| 16:57.20 | Adys | http://us.blizzard.com/store/blizzcon-tickets.xml |
| 16:57.22 | Cide | do I have to input payment info before gettin queued or anything? |
| 16:57.25 | Adys | no |
| 16:57.27 | Adys | hit f5, click buy, click 5 |
| 16:57.31 | Cide | ok |
| 16:57.31 | Adys | then you're queued |
| 16:57.40 | Cide | going to try and get lucky then |
| 16:57.47 | Cide | but I'm not going so |
| 16:57.53 | Xinhuan | can u change the 5 to something else after queueing? |
| 16:58.15 | Adys | not afaik |
| 16:58.25 | Adys | but if you get too many |
| 16:58.28 | Adys | you can easily resell |
| 16:58.46 | Cide | I thought you had to get there in person |
| 17:00.14 | Cide | huh |
| 17:00.14 | kd3 | 8597 |
| 17:00.16 | Cide | position: 318 |
| 17:00.18 | kd3 | seconds in |
| 17:00.18 | kd3 | wtf |
| 17:00.19 | Seerah | WOOT! 281 |
| 17:00.23 | Shadowed | 72 |
| 17:00.24 | Cide | so |
| 17:00.24 | Shadowed | whoot |
| 17:00.27 | Cide | anyone want tickets? |
| 17:00.53 | Cide | fast |
| 17:00.57 | Cide | I'm at payment |
| 17:01.03 | Cide | and I'm not going |
| 17:01.04 | Adys | 1123 in queue here |
| 17:01.07 | Adys | jesus that was close |
| 17:01.36 | Cide | kd3? |
| 17:01.37 | Cide | Adys? |
| 17:02.04 | Adys | i got one yep |
| 17:02.07 | Adys | 1100 in queue |
| 17:02.12 | Cide | well |
| 17:02.15 | Cide | does anyone want tickets |
| 17:02.27 | Cide | how do you resell this stuff anyway? |
| 17:02.39 | Xinhuan | Position: 16587 - Estimated time: 3 hours |
| 17:02.45 | Xinhuan | err somehow i think i'm a bit too slow |
| 17:02.47 | Cide | want tickets Xinhuan? |
| 17:03.02 | Xinhuan | hmmm |
| 17:03.04 | Cide | I'm at the front of the queue right now |
| 17:03.04 | Xinhuan | how many can u get |
| 17:03.07 | Cide | 5 |
| 17:03.10 | Cide | or less |
| 17:03.23 | Cide | Adys: how do I resell these if I get too many? |
| 17:03.33 | Cide | I thought you had to go there in person? |
| 17:03.46 | Adys | you need to meet your resellee in person |
| 17:03.49 | Adys | thats all |
| 17:03.52 | Cide | why? |
| 17:04.30 | foxlit | I would imagine that has to do with the ID check prior to receiving tickets? |
| 17:04.30 | Cide | Xinhuan: I only have ~10 minutes before the transaction closes so :P |
| 17:04.39 | Xinhuan | give me a moment, discussing with a friend |
| 17:04.47 | kd3 | me too, sec |
| 17:04.49 | foxlit | Then again, I don't know anything about that. |
| 17:04.52 | Cide | k, np |
| 17:05.01 | Cide | Adys: why? |
| 17:05.11 | Adys | ID check as foxlit said |
| 17:05.13 | Cide | foxlit: yeah, but how does meeting the reselle in person help |
| 17:05.35 | foxlit | Cide: you pick up the tickets with your id and hand them over to someone else, who is not ID checked on entry. Presumably. |
| 17:05.47 | Cide | so I have to go to california if I am to resell |
| 17:05.55 | Cide | not really an option |
| 17:08.45 | Adys | YOU HAVE REACHED THE FRONT OF THE QUEUE |
| 17:08.46 | Adys | \o/ |
| 17:09.01 | Shadowed | ZorbaBeta: ping |
| 17:09.29 | Shadowed | ah nevermind |
| 17:09.30 | Cide | kd3: only ~5 min left so decide quickly |
| 17:09.35 | Cide | and Xinhuan may want tickets also |
| 17:10.00 | Cide | and I will need either of you's contact details since I can't pick them up myself |
| 17:10.04 | Cide | so decide fast |
| 17:10.08 | Cide | it may time out soon |
| 17:10.21 | Adys | Thank you for placing an order with the Blizzard Store! |
| 17:10.22 | Adys | \o/ |
| 17:11.46 | A-KO | and blizzcon sold out :P |
| 17:12.10 | A-KO | I was helping a friend, I got #242 in queue |
| 17:12.15 | A-KO | but I'm not going |
| 17:12.58 | ckknight | I got 2200 and 2258 |
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| 17:13.17 | Lunessa | STATION! |
| 17:13.24 | A-KO | wow |
| 17:13.24 | Seerah | Lunessa: !! |
| 17:13.28 | A-KO | his CC got rejected |
| 17:13.29 | A-KO | fail |
| 17:13.34 | Seerah | did you get a ticket? |
| 17:13.39 | A-KO | I jumped out of the queue 'cause he said "oh I got #300 something" |
| 17:13.41 | Lunessa | Seerah! I did. I actually got 2. |
| 17:13.44 | Seerah | yay |
| 17:14.03 | Lunessa | I got a spare since I got in the queue at an early enough number. |
| 17:14.16 | Lunessa | Did you? Will you and the Hubby be attending? |
| 17:14.23 | Seerah | yes! |
| 17:14.26 | Seerah | I got 281 |
| 17:14.27 | Lunessa | WOOT! |
| 17:14.47 | Lunessa | Haha... I got in at 1200 something. And breathed a sigh of relief. |
| 17:14.57 | Seerah | we bought 5. us, Shirik, maybe friend of cair/dolby, and one for hubby's guildie |
| 17:15.19 | Seerah | was making sure I didn't have to wrestle a ticket away from our pool for ya :) |
| 17:15.26 | Lunessa | I'm not that rich. But I figured I'd better get the extra one just in case. |
| 17:15.58 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Shadowed -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ || 3.3.x ToC: 30300 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Blizzcon 2010 Oct 22 & 23! || 3.3.5 PTR Patch Notes are up: http://cot.ag/bY6mEm || BlizzCon Tickets on Sale June 2 & 5 http://cot.ag/9ceCch || AVR broken in 3.3.5 http://cot.ag/aYo2YE || Begin the bribery and dealing! |
| 17:16.04 | A-KO | lol Shadowed |
| 17:16.19 | A-KO | My buddy got his |
| 17:17.05 | Lunessa | Haha |
| 17:19.37 | Adys | WTS Blizzcon ticket x 3 $2500. Shadowed you take? |
| 17:19.43 | Shadowed | I already got 5 |
| 17:19.46 | Adys | fuu- |
| 17:20.00 | Lunessa | Holy crap Shadowed, do you poop cash or something? |
| 17:20.08 | Shadowed | no I just know I'll be able to sell them :p |
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| 17:21.05 | Shadowed | I already sold 3 of them to friends |
| 17:21.08 | Shadowed | and probably the 4th |
| 17:21.15 | Lunessa | I was honestly afraid I wouldn't make it in. |
| 17:22.11 | Shadowed | yea same |
| 17:22.18 | Shadowed | that's why I picked 1 |
| 17:22.21 | Shadowed | then changed quantity to 5 |
| 17:22.39 | Lunessa | Yeah, messing with the drop down on the first page decresses your chance of getting in. |
| 17:22.45 | Cide | rofl |
| 17:22.48 | Cide | paypal translation fail |
| 17:23.03 | Cide | they're asking me to update my phone numbers |
| 17:23.06 | Shadowed | yea |
| 17:23.07 | Cide | and then there's a field named "Home" |
| 17:23.08 | Shadowed | that's what I did last time :P |
| 17:23.14 | Sargeras | CAIRENN |
| 17:23.29 | Cide | Lunessa: yeah, I took 1, panicked, went back, took 5 |
| 17:23.32 | Cide | and still got in place 378! |
| 17:23.37 | Cide | 'cause I'm awesome |
| 17:23.40 | Shadowed | it doesn't reset Cide |
| 17:23.43 | Cide | oh |
| 17:23.45 | Cide | well stfu |
| 17:23.45 | Shadowed | yea |
| 17:23.47 | Cide | I'm still aesome |
| 17:23.48 | Cide | awesome |
| 17:23.51 | Cide | anyway |
| 17:24.00 | Cide | the "Home" number |
| 17:24.03 | Cide | is translated "Startsida" |
| 17:24.04 | Lunessa | Cide you vicious cruel bastard. I bet you have buyers already for them. |
| 17:24.13 | Cide | which means "Home[page]" |
| 17:24.19 | Cide | yeah sorry Lunessa :( |
| 17:24.24 | Cide | I only got them for people in here who wanted |
| 17:24.26 | Cide | I'm not going personally |
| 17:24.29 | Lunessa | Cide I have tix |
| 17:24.35 | Cide | oh |
| 17:24.37 | Cide | phew |
| 17:24.54 | Lunessa | I got one spare just in case. |
| 17:26.01 | |Jelly| | Just in case I GET TO GO THIS YEAR, amirite? |
| 17:26.57 | Fisker | fffffffffuuuuuuuuuu sold out |
| 17:27.00 | Lunessa | I'm not driving this year. |
| 17:27.16 | Lunessa | I was really ragged out on the way home. |
| 17:27.19 | |Jelly| | Not like you stopped for a beer last year anyway. |
| 17:27.23 | |Jelly| | Jerk face. |
| 17:27.38 | Lunessa | Yeah, well, 8 hours out of the way. |
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| 17:27.45 | ckknight | got 10 tickets! |
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| 17:28.02 | Seerah | nuh uh |
| 17:28.05 | Lunessa | Rock on with your bad self. |
| 17:28.17 | Fisker | hey ckknight |
| 17:28.22 | Fisker | http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/06/asus-concept-hydra-motherboard4364.jpg |
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| 17:31.49 | Cide | I don't get it Fisker |
| 17:33.32 | cog|away | station |
| 17:33.48 | Fisker | why don't you get it Cide |
| 17:34.16 | Cide | because I have a better gfx card |
| 17:34.25 | Cide | why get a worse one? |
| 17:39.01 | Thunder_Child | ...the heatsink overlaps one of the ram slots, how fail |
| 17:41.46 | Fisker | even Thunder_Child got it Cide |
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| 17:43.50 | A-KO | hmm |
| 17:43.54 | A-KO | are hotels usually 15% or 20% tax? |
| 17:44.10 | Lunessa | Depends on the state, but I believe CA is 15% |
| 17:46.23 | Adys | Who in here didn't make the ticket queue? |
| 17:46.32 | Cide | your mom |
| 17:46.51 | Cide | I think |
| 17:46.58 | Adys | she isn't going |
| 17:47.25 | Cide | oh well there's no issue here then |
| 17:49.00 | Fisker | i think blizzard made the ticket queue |
| 17:49.11 | Fisker | or they hired someone to do it |
| 17:50.47 | Thunder_Child | huh...i just got aion email in french |
| 17:51.13 | Thunder_Child | from 2 days ago |
| 17:51.18 | Thunder_Child | that just showed up now |
| 17:53.25 | Lunessa | And.... hotel booked. :) |
| 17:53.48 | Cide | hot stff |
| 17:53.49 | Cide | stuff |
| 17:53.52 | cogwheel | grats |
| 17:53.53 | Cide | can I stay with you Lunessa? |
| 17:54.03 | Cide | share a bed or three? |
| 17:54.11 | Lunessa | Can you suck the chrome off a bumper? |
| 17:54.24 | Cide | does a bear shit in the sky? |
| 17:54.24 | cogwheel | silly americans |
| 17:54.39 | cogwheel | Is the pope jewish? |
| 17:54.52 | Cide | is cogwheel drinking cheap wine? |
| 17:55.01 | cogwheel | nevah! |
| 17:55.13 | cogwheel | i go without first... |
| 17:55.15 | cogwheel | :P |
| 17:55.57 | Lunessa | I decided to stay a little way down the street instead of right at the convention center. Saves a bundle. |
| 17:56.36 | Adys | stffs Cide with strw |
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| 17:57.13 | Cide | nou |
| 17:57.18 | Adys | well then |
| 17:57.22 | Adys | who's coming to blizzcon? :) |
| 17:57.29 | Cide | I wish I was |
| 17:57.32 | Adys | and Cairenn|afk isn't there a topic usually for this stuff? |
| 17:57.33 | Thunder_Child | raises his hand |
| 17:57.41 | Adys | or Seerah whoever |
| 17:57.46 | Cide | they managed to schedule my only mid-term final to EXACTLY THE DAY BLIZZCON IS |
| 17:57.48 | Cide | fuckers |
| 17:57.56 | Xinhuan | o_O |
| 17:57.58 | Xinhuan | sucks |
| 17:58.02 | Thunder_Child | uh...blizzcon is 2 days |
| 17:58.05 | Cide | yeah |
| 17:58.11 | Cide | but the other way around then |
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| 17:58.26 | Cide | they managed to schedule blizzcon to EXACTLY THE DAY MY ONLY MID-TERM FINAL IS |
| 17:58.28 | Cide | better? |
| 17:58.43 | foxlit | no. |
| 17:58.44 | Thunder_Child | and i would point out the oxmoron of mid-term final |
| 17:58.49 | Xinhuan | whats a mid-term final |
| 17:58.56 | Cide | it's a final halfway through the term |
| 17:59.06 | Thunder_Child | final means last, not test |
| 17:59.11 | Cide | that's right |
| 17:59.15 | Cide | the class is only half a semester long |
| 17:59.16 | Adys | Cide: they managed to schedule blizzcon to EXACTLY THE DAY AS WELL AS THE NEXT ONE YOUR ONLY MID-TERM FINAL IS |
| 17:59.32 | Thunder_Child | then it would be your final, regardless of class length |
| 17:59.36 | Cide | yes |
| 17:59.39 | Cide | but it's in the middle of the term |
| 17:59.45 | Cide | you and your preconceived ideas of what mid-term means |
| 17:59.48 | Thunder_Child | so it's your final |
| 17:59.50 | Cide | yes |
| 17:59.54 | Cide | but it's in the middle of the term |
| 17:59.56 | Cide | you and your preconceived ideas of what mid-term means |
| 18:00.11 | krka | they managed to schedule blizzcon, so that its range of days contains the day of your mid term final |
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| 18:01.35 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Iriel] by ChanServ |
| 18:01.44 | Cide | they managed to schedule blizzcon so that the intersection of the set of blizzcon's running days and the set containing the day of my mid-term final is non-empty |
| 18:02.04 | Thunder_Child | final, not mid-term final |
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| 18:02.12 | Cide | how is mid-term final incorrect? |
| 18:02.53 | Xinhuan | mid-term implies there's a second half of the term to go |
| 18:02.56 | cogwheel | Cide: the same way it's incorrect and disrespectful to pronounce GUI like gooey |
| 18:03.08 | Thunder_Child | term is derived from the class, not the semester |
| 18:03.09 | Cide | I disagree |
| 18:03.16 | cogwheel | Cide: i do too |
| 18:03.28 | Cide | Thunder_Child: is that fact or your view? |
| 18:03.31 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: that's not the european definition |
| 18:03.31 | Seerah | Adys, etc.: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32977 |
| 18:03.37 | durcyn | because pedants demand taht your syntax be unambiguous in the literal sense; use of colloquialisms is prohibited |
| 18:03.37 | Iriel | We say 'term' where you say 'semester' |
| 18:03.50 | Adys | Seerah: \o/ |
| 18:04.36 | cogwheel | so mid-term for you is the middle term of several, wherease we use it for the middle of a given term? |
| 18:05.06 | Cide | european mid-term <=> american mid-semester |
| 18:05.10 | Cide | I suppose |
| 18:05.30 | Cide | going by Iriel's explanation |
| 18:05.32 | Thunder_Child | or quarter |
| 18:05.41 | cogwheel | well, we do say "mid-term" for tests in the middle of the semester and then "final" for the final final |
| 18:05.52 | Cide | well that's the point |
| 18:05.55 | Cide | my final is in the middle of the semester |
| 18:06.03 | A-KO | ahh, Quakecon..... |
| 18:06.05 | A-KO | can't wait :P |
| 18:06.08 | cogwheel | is dizzy |
| 18:06.14 | A-KO | fraction of the cost of blizzcon |
| 18:06.18 | Cide | the class ends halfway through the semester |
| 18:06.19 | cogwheel | ha |
| 18:06.22 | cogwheel | ah |
| 18:06.51 | Thunder_Child | so it's the final |
| 18:06.53 | cogwheel | ther's yer praaablem |
| 18:07.02 | Cide | yes it is |
| 18:07.08 | cogwheel | it's the final, at the time of the mid-term |
| 18:07.14 | Cide | yes... |
| 18:07.22 | Thunder_Child | but it would be based on the lengh of your class, not the term |
| 18:07.24 | Cide | but mid-term is not singly used for "test in the middle of the term" |
| 18:07.30 | cogwheel | Thunder_Child: sez u? |
| 18:07.40 | Thunder_Child | yes, sez me |
| 18:08.12 | Cide | pretty sure mid-term specifically means "in the middle of the term"; it's a definition of time, not of an event |
| 18:08.20 | krka | fascinating discussion about terminology, please go on |
| 18:08.25 | Cide | so you're reading too much into "mid-term" if you associate it with a test |
| 18:08.29 | Adys | http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/06/05/1627203/Does-the-Internet-Make-Humanity-Smarter-Or-Dumber?from=rss |
| 18:08.31 | Thunder_Child | right, but that is applied to classes that are a full term |
| 18:08.35 | Adys | The Wall Street Journal is running a pair of articles asking whether the internet is making humanity smarter or dumber. |
| 18:08.41 | Adys | anyone else reading "pair of testicles"? |
| 18:08.42 | Thunder_Child | Adys: yes |
| 18:08.42 | Cide | for you, yes, clearly |
| 18:12.25 | Lunessa | I find your ideas intriguing and should like to subscribe to your newsletter. |
| 18:13.49 | Cide | well it's available in here |
| 18:13.51 | Cide | 7 days a week |
| 18:14.10 | Cide | it's full of radical ideas and insanity |
| 18:14.13 | Thunder_Child | we dont get a day off? |
| 18:15.03 | Cide | you may unsubscribe temporarily by alt+f4 |
| 18:15.28 | Lunessa | Excellent. I shall await the first issue with great anticipation. |
| 18:17.14 | Cide | I have been considering training to become an evil genius. Thoughts? |
| 18:18.04 | Mikina | I didnt know there was a course for that... |
| 18:18.37 | Cide | There isn't. I'm starting one on the purpose of self-learning. |
| 18:18.47 | Lunessa | Cide It's all "on the job training" maybe you'll get a mentor, but that's about i. |
| 18:19.51 | Cide | Alright, I see. Well, time to dive in then. |
| 18:20.01 | Lunessa | Don't forget to work on the laugh. |
| 18:20.06 | Thunder_Child | Seerah: your image seems to be broken |
| 18:20.16 | Seerah | Thunder_Child: should be fixed already |
| 18:20.16 | Lunessa | Can't be a proper villain without the evil laugh. |
| 18:20.20 | Cide | hihihihehehehahahahaaahaahaaahahaa. |
| 18:20.34 | Cide | Yes/no? |
| 18:20.35 | Thunder_Child | Seerah: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4375&d=1275761576 is what i get |
| 18:20.46 | Cide | Maybe capital letters? |
| 18:21.53 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Seerah -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ || 3.3.x ToC: 30300 || #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting || Blizzcon 2010 Oct 22 & 23! || 3.3.5 PTR Patch Notes are up: http://cot.ag/bY6mEm || AVR broken in 3.3.5 http://cot.ag/aYo2YE || Are you going to BlizzCon? http://tinyurl.com/22kjfxu |
| 18:22.11 | Seerah | Thunder_Child: you get the image? |
| 18:22.19 | cogwheel | i don't |
| 18:22.37 | Thunder_Child | Seerah: still broken image, and i clear cache |
| 18:22.43 | Thunder_Child | cleared* |
| 18:23.22 | Seerah | I think I know why :) was trying to hide the attachment by deleting the post it was attached to, but that may mean that no one else but staff can see it >< |
| 18:23.24 | Cide | should remove #wowuidev-commits from the topic and put it in the welcome message |
| 18:23.29 | Cide | there is one of those still right? |
| 18:23.31 | Seerah | I'll just have to make the post not so pretty :p |
| 18:23.43 | airtonix | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttBO9f2kYBw |
| 18:24.04 | |Jelly| | Trade: Sweetlock: LFM 10 ToC NEED: all 5kgs+ *sigh* |
| 18:24.38 | Seerah | Thunder_Child & cogwheel: all fixed :) |
| 18:24.49 | Cide | 5 kilograms of what? |
| 18:25.10 | Cide | I don't think anyone weighs less than that |
| 18:27.20 | |Jelly| | Hmmm. You make a good point. |
| 18:30.33 | cogwheel | /backspaceoverpassword |
| 18:30.56 | Cide | nice password cog |
| 18:30.58 | kd3 | grrs at trying to login |
| 18:32.45 | Lunessa | kd3 - ditto |
| 18:47.19 | airtonix | http://uploads.ungrounded.net/386000/386370_PWGW.swf |
| 18:47.27 | airtonix | phoenix fire : green wing |
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| 18:49.11 | airtonix | http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/386370 |
| 18:51.38 | airtonix | am i the only one that doesn't have that playing ? |
| 18:54.03 | mikma | yarp |
| 18:55.37 | Fisker | hey cogwheel |
| 18:58.19 | Adys | airtonix: win |
| 18:59.15 | Thunder_Child | ~logs |
| 18:59.16 | purl | All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. logs are updated daily |
| 19:01.05 | Fisker | hey Thunder_Child |
| 19:01.12 | Thunder_Child | hey Fisker |
| 19:02.09 | cogwheel | hey Fisker |
| 19:02.18 | cogwheel | i control my air conditioning with the internet! |
| 19:02.24 | Thunder_Child | kd3: shouldnt authors be singular in your sig? |
| 19:02.42 | kd3 | no? |
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| 19:03.06 | Thunder_Child | well it sounds odd the way it is |
| 19:03.10 | kd3 | it's the skinning a bear meme |
| 19:03.31 | Thunder_Child | yes, because that makes it better... |
| 19:05.10 | zenzelezz | y so srs |
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| 19:05.19 | Thunder_Child | oh Mikina, there was this quote from cogwheel you might find interesting "18:14.05 cog|work: my wife has a good taco" |
| 19:06.01 | Mikina | oddly enough - he told me that story the other night :P |
| 19:06.16 | Thunder_Child | damn you cogwheel!, damn you |
| 19:06.24 | Shadowed | poor cogwheel |
| 19:06.25 | cogwheel | :0 |
| 19:06.38 | cogwheel | s/0/[/ |
| 19:07.52 | Xinhuan | [02:31:32] [Wowblizzcom] whispers: We have detected third-party software associated with your account. Please log in to www.worldofwarcraft-faccount.com with your Battle.Net information before action is taken against your account. |
| 19:07.55 | Xinhuan | oh dear |
| 19:10.13 | DWSR | Hey, any android users that play FLAC? I'm looking for a FLAC player for my Android device that's not Meridian, as Meridian seems to have issues. |
| 19:10.32 | DWSR | faccount. |
| 19:10.35 | DWSR | For FAKE ACCOUNT |
| 19:10.52 | cbreak | can't you convert it to aac or mp3? |
| 19:11.08 | cbreak | smaller size and for a mobile player, probably appropriate quality |
| 19:11.15 | Hjalte | DWSR: This is from the hero forum, but http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=575923 |
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| 19:12.24 | DWSR | cbreak: Conversion takes time. |
| 19:12.28 | Seerah | hotel and flights purchased :) |
| 19:12.30 | DWSR | A rather large amount of time if you're talking about 16GB worth. |
| 19:12.41 | cbreak | a night or so? |
| 19:13.01 | DWSR | Well. |
| 19:13.04 | Nechckn | Seerah You did not have to do that for me, but thank you! |
| 19:13.08 | cbreak | probably not as long as transfering 16gb over wlan :) |
| 19:13.10 | DWSR | Currently, 6 albums in FLAC is taking about 2 hours. |
| 19:13.20 | cbreak | ouch |
| 19:13.22 | DWSR | And this is doing 1 song per core. |
| 19:13.43 | cbreak | an album is 74 mins? |
| 19:13.48 | Seerah | Nechckn: hope you don't mind sleeping in the closet |
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| 19:14.12 | Nechckn | I can sleep anywhere, ma'am. ;-) |
| 19:14.12 | DWSR | cbreak: Yeah, for the most part. |
| 19:14.16 | DWSR | None of these are double disc albums. |
| 19:14.28 | DWSR | Ah, here we go. |
| 19:14.31 | DWSR | Down to 1h15m. |
| 19:14.41 | DWSR | Probably was doing something else with my proc at some point in the conversion process. |
| 19:14.42 | DWSR | ANYWAY. |
| 19:15.18 | DWSR | I'm out. |
| 19:15.23 | DWSR | But yeah, I just want to play the FLAC itself. |
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| 19:15.59 | DWSR | anyway, out. |
| 19:16.00 | DWSR | later all. |
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| 19:41.01 | Fisker | hello cogwheel |
| 19:41.04 | Fisker | i cogwheeled you |
| 19:41.32 | cogwheel | onoes!!1 |
| 19:41.37 | Fisker | it will all be over soon |
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| 20:05.53 | Fisker | embrace the darkness cogwheel |
| 20:06.06 | cogwheel | which one? |
| 20:06.17 | Cide | the band |
| 20:06.28 | Cide | 'cause Fisker believes in love |
| 20:06.52 | Fisker | why do i hate you Cide ? |
| 20:07.33 | Cide | 'cause I believe in a thing called love |
| 20:07.37 | Cide | pretty awesome song tbh |
| 20:07.45 | Cide | back in a bit |
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| 20:19.40 | Thunder_Child | good song, rather odd music video |
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| 20:38.52 | amro | any german speakers around? |
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| 20:44.02 | Fisker | mostly nazi slurs amro |
| 20:44.44 | amro | when I want to get in trouble with the german police, I'll be sure to give you a call Fisker |
| 20:45.46 | Fisker | sehr gut |
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| 21:00.10 | harl | re |
| 21:00.26 | foxlit | qu |
| 21:00.42 | foxlit | wait, damned r. |
| 21:02.19 | cogwheel | for crying out pete's sake... it wasn't more than a few seconds after i landed in the barrens that some noob randomly invited me "where you going? can i come? can i ? pleese? please can i come? |
| 21:03.02 | foxlit | Ride him to Un'goro |
| 21:03.07 | foxlit | and deposit next to a devilsaur |
| 21:03.10 | cogwheel | i'm level 13 >< |
| 21:04.16 | harl | so.. was it a date? |
| 21:04.21 | cogwheel | i should've said "i don't know. that's between you and your hand" |
| 21:04.35 | harl | aw.. |
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| 21:21.28 | Lunessa | station |
| 21:22.37 | cogwheel | there's a penguin in mah belleh |
| 21:23.41 | Thunder_Child | better let it out soon |
| 21:28.33 | Fisker | slaps cogwheel around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:28.34 | Fisker | slaps Thunder_Child around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:29.19 | Lunessa | Egads! Thy bird hath not wings, yet was it not delicious? |
| 21:31.36 | Fisker | i ruined my hunter |
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| 21:57.06 | Fisker | rage |
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| 22:11.55 | cogwheel | lua> ({"Ghostlands","Barrens","Silverpine"})[math.random(3)] |
| 22:11.56 | lua_bot | cogwheel: Barrens |
| 22:12.11 | Fisker | get out |
| 22:12.14 | Fisker | get out cogwheel |
| 22:12.21 | cogwheel | NO U! |
| 22:12.48 | Fisker | u |
| 22:12.54 | cogwheel | ur mom |
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| 22:13.21 | Fisker | u |
| 22:13.51 | cogwheel | worgen and tauren should be skinnable |
| 22:13.55 | cogwheel | in pvp |
| 22:14.05 | Fisker | so should humanoids |
| 22:15.07 | Nechckn | Undeads could give some awesome, rotting skins for your clothing business! |
| 22:15.31 | cogwheel | Mikina: don't worry about Fisker ... he's european |
| 22:15.35 | cogwheel | ducks |
| 22:15.43 | Arrowmaster | http://kotaku.com/5555113/a-college-prank-that-strikes-back |
| 22:15.47 | Arrowmaster | so unoriginal |
| 22:16.04 | Fisker | Mikina who? |
| 22:16.10 | Mikina | I could understand getting extra clothing scraps from them, but some undead dont have skin... |
| 22:16.38 | cogwheel | Fisker: ^ |
| 22:16.47 | cogwheel | derp |
| 22:16.51 | Fisker | he said nothings |
| 22:16.56 | Fisker | so no u |
| 22:16.59 | cogwheel | he? |
| 22:17.03 | cogwheel | i'm not gay -_- |
| 22:17.08 | Fisker | you are |
| 22:17.13 | cogwheel | your mom |
| 22:17.21 | Fisker | i wish |
| 22:17.23 | Fisker | you don't |
| 22:17.41 | Fisker | goodnight cogwheel |
| 22:17.44 | cogwheel | Fisker: hint: morty & mikina cogwheel |
| 22:18.00 | Fisker | i already got it 1 million years ago |
| 22:18.11 | cogwheel | orly |
| 22:18.22 | Fisker | yarly |
| 22:18.36 | Nechckn | Arrowmaster that is rather passe, but still kinda cool with the sound effects and stuff. |
| 22:18.59 | Fisker | nighttiems have been called |
| 22:19.12 | Arrowmaster | i cant find it on hacks.mit.edu but i fucking swear they converted the great dome to r2d2 a long ass fucking time ago |
| 22:21.11 | Nechckn | Arrowmaster yes, they did when the menace was being released. |
| 22:23.25 | Arrowmaster | http://hacks.mit.edu/Hacks/by_year/1999/r2d2/ |
| 22:24.17 | teetow | just keeping track here: 10 years is now categorized as "a long ass fucking time ago?" |
| 22:24.21 | teetow | fuck, I'm old. |
| 22:24.27 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 22:24.49 | Arrowmaster | im umm 23? so yeah long ass fucking time ago |
| 22:25.32 | Arrowmaster | but seriously you cant top the MIT hacks why with bother trying to copy them |
| 22:25.44 | teetow | I concur. |
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| 22:26.36 | Nechckn | It looks much better, though. Much nicer framework =) |
| 22:27.07 | Arrowmaster | http://hacks.mit.edu/Hacks/by_year/2006/mitcannon/ is still one of the best ever though |
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| 22:37.16 | Cide | huh. |
| 22:37.24 | Cide | teetow: are you swedish? |
| 22:37.40 | teetow | very much so. |
| 22:38.05 | Cide | you made teepop way back right? |
| 22:38.11 | Cide | and by way back I mean like 6 years ago |
| 22:38.39 | teetow | omg |
| 22:38.45 | teetow | yeah, that was me =) |
| 22:38.54 | teetow | http://teeworlds.com is where it's at now |
| 22:38.55 | Cide | figured as much |
| 22:38.58 | Cide | that game was awesome |
| 22:39.01 | Cide | it's still around? |
| 22:39.07 | teetow | funny story |
| 22:39.10 | Cide | or is that something else |
| 22:39.17 | teetow | we simultaneously lost our harddrives with the stuff on |
| 22:39.34 | teetow | so I don't think the source code made it |
| 22:39.39 | Cide | oh shit :/ |
| 22:39.47 | Cide | well big props, had lots of fun with that game |
| 22:39.58 | teetow | cool =) |
| 22:47.26 | Shirik | just got back from skiing |
| 22:49.17 | Cide | skiing is awesome |
| 22:49.35 | Cide | alpine anyway |
| 22:53.17 | cogwheel | god my sister needs to get replacement plans for her phones |
| 22:53.35 | cogwheel | i think the math would work out in her case... |
| 22:54.12 | cogwheel | her first phone when she moved in went in a toilet "accidentally" |
| 22:54.21 | cogwheel | then she convinced our dad to get her an iphone |
| 22:54.30 | cogwheel | which was stolen a couple months ago |
| 22:54.39 | cogwheel | and now she snapped her new one in half |
| 22:56.58 | teetow | O.o |
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| 22:58.00 | cogwheel | should I be having "kids these days!" moments at 27? >< |
| 22:58.15 | cbreak | you can snapp pan iPhone in half? |
| 22:58.16 | teetow | yes. |
| 22:58.24 | cbreak | or was it one of those foldable phones japanese like? |
| 22:58.52 | cogwheel | it was a clamshell type |
| 22:59.30 | tekkub | I have "get off my fucking lawn" moments |
| 22:59.37 | tekkub | and I live in a 4th florr apt |
| 22:59.46 | teetow | scary, I just did that |
| 23:00.17 | teetow | some teens got into an argument with one of my neighbours, and threw rocks at him |
| 23:00.27 | teetow | so I put on my best "voice from above" and scared them away |
| 23:02.24 | Nechckn | It only gets worse, cogwheel... |
| 23:03.33 | Nechckn | teetow the kids around here will toss stuff at cars, every so often, but never (yet) at people. |
| 23:04.13 | teetow | I think the disagreement was on whether or not it was OK to urinate on our bikes. |
| 23:04.19 | teetow | it sounded kinda heated. |
| 23:05.30 | Nechckn | Ouch.. that is crazy |
| 23:05.58 | Nechckn | I would take my cane to 'em! Teach those whipper-snappers a lesson. |
| 23:06.05 | teetow | =) |
| 23:06.34 | teetow | I'm thinking water balloons. |
| 23:06.46 | tekkub | bb gun |
| 23:06.49 | Nechckn | Fight urine, with urine, I say. |
| 23:07.07 | teetow | tekkub: that'll work too |
| 23:07.10 | Dashkal | "water" baloons? |
| 23:07.32 | teetow | I have a pretty cracking gunfire sample lib around here somewhere |
| 23:07.44 | Nechckn | Let us just say filled balloons, to keep all options open. |
| 23:08.58 | Cide | I would go with butanoic acid |
| 23:11.39 | tekkub | just use milk |
| 23:11.49 | tekkub | and leave it out on your patio for easy access |
| 23:11.57 | tekkub | pre-filled ballons |
| 23:12.07 | teetow | euugh =) |
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| 23:29.32 | cogwheel | hipeppeppy |
| 23:31.18 | Lopeppeppy | heya, cogwheel. How's the puppy today? |
| 23:31.40 | cogwheel | enjoying his pain meds... |
| 23:33.20 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, I can't doubt it. How you guys holding up? |
| 23:33.39 | cogwheel | so now we're coning him for bed, putting three different drops in his eyes, on top of his regular benadryl regimen and allergy shots :( I feel like a hypochondriac (sp?) sometimes, but I don't like seeing him suffer |
| 23:33.40 | batbot | cogwheel, hypochondriac is correct. |
| 23:34.58 | cogwheel | a little poke every few weeks vs open sores on his legs and no hair on his back.... |
| 23:35.13 | Lopeppeppy | You love your dog, how can that be less than awesome? You know everything I did for Rosiekins Frankencat. |
| 23:35.22 | cogwheel | *nod* |
| 23:35.46 | cogwheel | it's a little frustrating because a lot of my family are "skeptics" in the "anything that goes agains the status quo" sense |
| 23:36.03 | cogwheel | so i have to censor what I tell them lest we get into an argument over "western" medicine |
| 23:36.30 | Lopeppeppy | I'd drizzle dinosaur tears into Rosie's ears if they'd help her. :) Do whatever makes the dog comfortable and healthy. |
| 23:37.17 | Mikina | totally, and we only get it from the one side - my family is very supportive |
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| 23:46.37 | foxlit | I wonder if any off-GCD companions exist |
| 23:46.51 | Lopeppeppy | Why would they? |
| 23:47.28 | foxlit | it'd be nice |
| 23:47.50 | foxlit | To be able to find out what's going on with this return value |
| 23:51.09 | Lopeppeppy | if it weren't Saturday night, I'd say someone could help you brainstorm it, but um.... it's the Dead Pool around here this time. |
| 23:51.30 | foxlit | Nah, I'm content with a "I can't think of anything" silence :) |
| 23:57.32 | Fisker | you will get a free cup of EXTERMINATE foxlit |
| 23:57.44 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker, not making him pay? |
| 23:58.02 | foxlit | Why don't we just DELETE you first, Fisker? |
| 23:58.43 | Fisker | you can't foxlit |
| 23:59.18 | Lopeppeppy | A challenge. |
