| 00:00.45 | Antiarc | Torhal: Yeah, got it integrated |
| 00:00.49 | Torhal | kk |
| 00:01.03 | WobWork | hm |
| 00:01.22 | WobWork | I thought 11% haste was sufficient to get down to gcd casts |
| 00:01.30 | WobWork | for instant cast spells, anyway |
| 00:02.41 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 can't be |
| 00:04.14 | Cloudwolf | !ping sixen |
| 00:04.14 | batbot | Cloudwolf: pong! |
| 00:04.24 | Sixen | :P |
| 00:06.21 | WobWork | oh ho |
| 00:06.22 | WobWork | I see |
| 00:06.26 | WobWork | Borrowed Time =) |
| 00:06.47 | WobWork | so that makes the haste cap 36% |
| 00:12.28 | Thunder_Child | [38D] is not what i thought at first |
| 00:13.45 | WobWork | Thunder_Child: a cup size? |
| 00:14.19 | Thunder_Child | thats what i thought...but it's a quest level |
| 00:14.34 | Thunder_Child | kinda condused me for a moment |
| 00:15.40 | Corrodias | D for dungeon, right? |
| 00:17.16 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 00:17.46 | Kraps | WobWork: what? |
| 00:18.42 | WobWork | Kraps: A cup size =P |
| 00:19.02 | WobWork | oh yeah, Disc Priest Borrowed Time adds 25% haste to the next cast |
| 00:19.30 | WobWork | plus 11% geared haste, hits the haste cap for 25mans |
| 00:19.45 | WobWork | which is usually when you're mass spamming PWshield |
| 00:21.43 | Antiarc | disc also gets haste talents |
| 00:21.52 | Antiarc | Enlightenment is 6% |
| 00:24.52 | Kraps | i'm really good at spamming PW:S :P |
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| 00:34.25 | WobWork | Antiarc: trudat |
| 00:34.37 | WobWork | that's 41% |
| 00:34.47 | WobWork | er 2 |
| 00:35.04 | Antiarc | Plus moonkin haste |
| 00:35.08 | Antiarc | Or Wrath of Air |
| 00:35.47 | WobWork | which is 8, right? |
| 00:35.50 | WobWork | there you go, 50% |
| 00:35.52 | Antiarc | Correct |
| 00:36.28 | WobWork | It seems so easy as a disc priest =P |
| 00:36.33 | WobWork | "All you need is 11%" =) |
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| 01:50.03 | Shirik | ............................................................................... |
| 01:50.10 | Shirik | ........................................................................................................................................................... |
| 01:50.25 | Shirik | ................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................ |
| 01:50.31 | Arrowmaster | DotA v.01 for Starcraft 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6xoCSUEedU&hd=1 |
| 01:50.32 | Shirik | http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/37412412#37412412 |
| 01:50.36 | Shirik | no |
| 01:50.38 | Shirik | watch my link |
| 01:51.43 | Thunder_Child | i cant even tell whay i am looking at |
| 01:52.21 | Thunder_Child | now i can |
| 01:52.34 | |Jelly| | You're looking at quite possibly the most epic fail ever. |
| 01:57.08 | Thunder_Child | na. that may be bad, but nowhere near epic |
| 02:01.57 | Cide | Shirik: is it sc2 time in an hour?! |
| 02:02.21 | Thunder_Child | "The Dolby Audiophile Giveaway" that was also confusing today |
| 02:08.23 | Seerah | bad Shirik |
| 02:08.35 | Seerah | you made my window have a scroll bar |
| 02:08.49 | *** kick/#wowuidev [Seerah!~mpdelbuon@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik] by Shirik (bye) |
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| 02:09.05 | Shirik | problem solved |
| 02:09.08 | |Jelly| | ouch |
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| 02:09.14 | Shirik | Cide: no keyboard/mouse :( |
| 02:09.22 | Thunder_Child | Seerah: L2wordwrap |
| 02:09.23 | Cide | I can see that |
| 02:09.23 | Shirik | I left it at work |
| 02:09.29 | Cide | must be difficult to type without one |
| 02:09.33 | Shirik | ... |
| 02:09.35 | Shirik | laptop keyboard |
| 02:09.47 | Cide | you are weak |
| 02:10.18 | Seerah | Thunder_Child: oh, it word wraps for the other lines |
| 02:10.38 | Thunder_Child | Seerah: but not for '.'? |
| 02:10.55 | Seerah | nope. not when there are no spaces |
| 02:12.14 | Shirik | failclient |
| 02:12.25 | Seerah | you're the one that spammed :p |
| 02:12.27 | Thunder_Child | you know http://notalwaysright.com/big-bother/5677 that sounds like an awsome way to vote people into office |
| 02:17.00 | Cide- | Seerah, /clear |
| 02:17.04 | Cide- | usually works |
| 02:17.15 | Seerah | tada! |
| 02:17.27 | Seerah | huggles Cide and gives Shirik a raspberry |
| 02:17.32 | WobWork | Cairenn: http://shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=15381 |
| 02:17.57 | Cairenn | heh |
| 02:18.01 | Shirik | pokes Seerah |
| 02:19.25 | WobWork | seems a perfect app for the ipad |
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| 02:29.23 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/5554960/lawyers-claim-google-wi+fi-sniffing-is-not-an-accident wait a second, i thought grabbing data from unsecured networks was legal |
| 02:30.28 | Thunder_Child | nvm me |
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| 02:47.51 | cog|work | Fisker: |
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| 02:52.33 | cog|work | http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_wGr8njEWjtI/S9h77UBNR1I/AAAAAAAAIV8/uXZgxIE-_bM/s1600/8718_128115554221_500049221_2256345_6346226_n.jpg |
| 02:52.46 | cog|work | sorry for the url from hell |
| 02:52.59 | |Jelly| | Seerah is going to boot you! |
| 02:53.04 | cog|work | rawr |
| 02:53.07 | Seerah | wth is that? |
| 02:53.16 | |Jelly| | looks like noms |
| 02:53.17 | cogwheel | http://bit.ly/a87qOv |
| 02:53.59 | cogwheel | atheist bday cake, perhaps? |
| 02:56.06 | Slackwise | Delicious. |
| 02:58.32 | cogwheel | there should be chocolate frosting under the diaper imo |
| 02:59.45 | cogwheel | LUK WUT I MAID http://cogwheel.info/CONGORATS.jpg |
| 03:05.19 | kd3 | yay! got my auth deattached |
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| 03:11.33 | Kraps | lol im so bored |
| 03:11.39 | cogwheel | ^ |
| 03:11.58 | kd3 | blah. where the hell is my bc'09 goody bag? |
| 03:12.02 | kd3 | takes his room apart |
| 03:16.39 | Jerub | so i discovered yesterday that whopulled.it is available. |
| 03:16.50 | Jerub | i didn't register it because i can register a .info domain for a $1 |
| 03:20.00 | Jerub | interesting question that's come out of a morally dubious idea a guildmate had. |
| 03:20.14 | Jerub | is selling voice server hosting for in game gold against the TOS? |
| 03:20.30 | cogwheel | yeah. |
| 03:20.37 | cogwheel | afaik |
| 03:20.42 | Jerub | good, now i can say no to his crazy idea. |
| 03:20.52 | cogwheel | in-game goods can't be tradeable for real world ones |
| 03:21.00 | cogwheel | s/able/ed/ |
| 03:21.05 | cogwheel | or something |
| 03:21.36 | cogwheel | unless blizzard gets the money >< |
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| 03:24.56 | |Jelly| | ~botsnack |
| 03:24.56 | purl | :), |Jelly| |
| 03:28.24 | Jerub | moving to a different realm gives you the option of changing faction at the same time, rigt? |
| 03:28.32 | Jerub | or is it two different fees? |
| 03:29.08 | cogwheel | doubt they'd be so kind |
| 03:29.13 | |Jelly| | two fees |
| 03:29.24 | |Jelly| | ... and there's no 'account wide discount' or anything |
| 03:29.27 | |Jelly| | I emailed them. lol |
| 03:29.35 | cogwheel | "lol" qft |
| 03:29.53 | WobWork | two fees |
| 03:29.54 | WobWork | damnit |
| 03:30.00 | WobWork | I wish it weren't |
| 03:30.54 | |Jelly| | It shouldn't be, IMO. |
| 03:31.22 | |Jelly| | But alas ... $$$$$$ |
| 03:31.26 | cogwheel | ^ |
| 03:38.01 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/5554163/thundercats-ho-new-anime-cartoon-network-series-planned |
| 03:38.46 | Thunder_Child | huh, Patrick Stewart got knighted |
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| 03:42.34 | cogwheel | i said the same thing in here... like last year or something |
| 03:45.32 | Kraps | http://cdn-www.cracked.com/phpimages/photoshop/4/3/0/24430.jpg?v=1 |
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| 03:57.21 | Jerub | wtf |
| 03:57.22 | Jerub | http://x.elitistjerks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=4&cb=6216266211 |
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| 04:06.14 | Corrodias | "Lord of Ultima". haven't heard of that. |
| 04:06.49 | Jerub | neither have i. |
| 04:07.04 | Jerub | this seems to be spam directly from ej. |
| 04:07.28 | Jerub | i think i'm opted into receiveing it, so that's fine |
| 04:07.31 | Jerub | but weird. |
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| 04:12.00 | Adys | Jerub: is it me or does that look like evony graphics? |
| 04:12.41 | Kraps | its not in this list http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm |
| 04:14.26 | Jerub | i can provide the hyperlink they gave too if you want |
| 04:14.31 | Seerah | I've been enjoying http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/414/Allods-Online.html |
| 04:14.34 | Jerub | i didn't because it's sus |
| 04:15.22 | Jerub | http://x.elitistjerks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?zoneid=4 |
| 04:15.30 | Jerub | which takes you to http://www.gamezone.com/forums/member/register/#ultima |
| 04:15.41 | airtonix | which leads your to Kevin Bacon |
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| 04:34.49 | Kraps | http://www.cracked.com/video_18156_a-trailer-every-academy-award-winning-movie-ever.html |
| 04:35.25 | Jerub | Kraps: old. |
| 04:35.39 | Kraps | yes |
| 04:40.57 | Jerub | http://www.geekinheels.com/blog/2010/5/31/what-your-email-address-says-about-you.html |
| 04:43.57 | Kraps | cool Jerub |
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| 05:01.38 | Thunder_Child | todays xkcd is interesting but you know real ones like that would start with sex |
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| 05:16.22 | Kraps | no just no http://notalwaysright.com/big-bother/5677 |
| 05:17.40 | WobWork | hehe |
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| 05:26.01 | Dashkal | Don't tell me you're surprised that she's that stupid... |
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| 05:34.55 | Antiarc | Hooray, I'm Arp capped |
| 05:35.46 | WobWork | it's all downhill from here =( |
| 05:47.18 | Kraps | old but awesome http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhPmsIsQ-JE&feature=related |
| 06:00.25 | Arrowmaster | i swear i just got an 8x wreck in Split/Second somehow, even though theres only 7 other cars so somehow i wrecked one of them twice with the same powerplay |
| 06:01.49 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: can you wreak your own? |
| 06:02.05 | Arrowmaster | yes but i didnt that time |
| 06:02.20 | Arrowmaster | and it doesnt count like that when you do |
| 06:03.02 | Thunder_Child | i think they need to do a remake of carmageddon |
| 06:03.06 | DWSR | Anyone know how to get flash on an android device? |
| 06:03.36 | DWSR | Either through a translation website or an actual plugin. |
| 06:03.41 | Thunder_Child | ~ping |
| 06:03.42 | purl | ~pong |
| 06:06.24 | DWSR | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:06.46 | DWSR | I know that sites exist. |
| 06:07.12 | DWSR | I'm just looking for one. |
| 06:08.48 | Thunder_Child | supposedly going to http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ on an android will take you to the market DWSR |
| 06:09.29 | DWSR | It doesn't. |
| 06:10.10 | Thunder_Child | do you have 2.2? |
| 06:10.58 | DWSR | Perhaps my android version isn't recent enough? |
| 06:11.10 | Thunder_Child | or http://www.adobe.com/products/flashlite/ |
| 06:11.42 | Thunder_Child | DWSR: oddly enough it seems to depend on the pgone |
| 06:11.45 | Thunder_Child | phone* |
| 06:12.08 | DWSR | Or the version of android installed nb |
| 06:12.44 | DWSR | Anyway, I can wait. Just wanted to watch the mmo report. |
| 06:12.52 | DWSR | Night all. |
| 06:13.01 | Thunder_Child | night |
| 06:14.52 | Thunder_Child | ~seen art3mis |
| 06:14.54 | purl | art3mis <i=art3mis@WoWUIDev/WoWI/HKUI/art3mis> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 151d 7h 34m 50s ago, saying: 'yes, yes i am'. |
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| 06:20.17 | Kraps | 151d |
| 06:21.12 | Thunder_Child | yea, been a while i guess |
| 06:22.35 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/5553877/nasa-tv-streaming-now-available-on-iphone-and-ipad |
| 06:23.50 | Arrowmaster | i think i broke the game |
| 06:24.30 | Arrowmaster | "you are 5.1 seconds ahead" "you are 6.x seconds ahead" "you are 8.1 seconds ahead" "1st place" |
| 06:24.46 | Arrowmaster | what happened to the AI catchup |
| 06:25.08 | Arrowmaster | i gained 2 seconds on it over an entire lap |
| 06:25.24 | Arrowmaster | er 3 seconds |
| 06:25.53 | Arrowmaster | rofl no i didnt haha |
| 06:26.50 | Arrowmaster | it said 8.1 seconds ahead right before the finish line but in the results it shows the next car 1.5 seconds behind me and 8th place like 6 seconds behind me |
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| 06:26.58 | Arrowmaster | so it did catchup but it was too late |
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| 06:52.24 | zenzio | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/06/03/funny-pictures-the-angry-bunny-face/ |
| 06:52.56 | Thunder_Child | http://bmgoau.cwahi.net/spitzer.html way cool |
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| 07:15.58 | Thunder_Child | hahahahaha http://gizmodo.com/5552776/psd502-spray-delays-premature-ejaculation |
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| 07:17.27 | sylvanaar | nothing new |
| 07:17.44 | sylvanaar | it has dental anesthetic in it |
| 07:18.51 | sylvanaar | you could use solarcaine probably |
| 07:19.37 | sylvanaar | why am i even awake...nn |
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| 07:29.25 | industrial | this time imma let it all come out |
| 07:29.27 | industrial | this time imma stand up and shout |
| 07:29.29 | industrial | imma do things my way! my way or the highway! |
| 07:29.33 | industrial | memories :) |
| 07:29.50 | zenzio | who is Imma? |
| 07:30.07 | industrial | this word fred durst keeps saying. |
| 07:30.20 | zenzio | Fred Durst? |
| 07:30.50 | industrial | of Limp Bizkit, that made the song which lyric I just typed |
| 07:31.10 | zenzio | the name sounded familiar |
| 07:32.55 | industrial | LB (eventually) made me like metal. So that's like 12 years ago. |
| 07:35.02 | Jerub | man the 70->80 grind is the longest |
| 07:35.11 | Jerub | it feels so slow after smashing the previous 70 levels. |
| 07:37.10 | industrial | limp bizkit (chocolate starfish) -> papa roach (infested) -> slipknot (iowa) -> dimmu borgir (puritanical euphoric misanthropia) -> Children of Bodom (basically i know everything by heart) -> arch enemy -> metalcore/deathcore (darkest hour, as i lay dying, all that remains, conducting from the grave, etc) |
| 07:37.16 | industrial | :D |
| 07:38.51 | durcyn | you had me right up until you said every single one of those band names |
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| 07:54.32 | industrial | durcyn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7XY8IlxwHQ#t=2m50s |
| 07:54.32 | industrial | and this intro is nice http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4VAuTQ9ukk |
| 07:54.37 | industrial | this one as well http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2M85h2VBTE |
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| 08:10.46 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWk4MCQaHrc - WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
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| 08:12.19 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ExNMQL-hOE |
| 08:12.45 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2010/06/amazing_team_fortress_2_cospla.php |
| 08:14.31 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/desert_island_comic.jpg |
| 08:20.56 | Arrowmaster | fuck, my ps3 controller isnt working on my computer anymore |
| 08:23.30 | Arrowmaster | ok apparently pushing the ps3 button on it makes it work now |
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| 09:10.38 | zenzio | "You paid for it, you have the DVD in your drive and the box on the floor next to your desk, but do you own the game? That's the question the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals will rule on next week in the case between Blizzard, publisher of World of Warcraft, and MDY, publisher of the Glider bot." |
| 09:10.46 | zenzio | will be interesting |
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| 09:23.27 | Wobin | http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/s.php?f=062010&p=the_solution_to_the_oil_spill.jpg |
| 09:28.08 | Wobin | awww http://www.teefury.com/index.php is cute today |
| 09:29.52 | Fisker | hey Wobin |
| 09:29.54 | Fisker | hey zenzelezz |
| 09:30.15 | Wobin | hey Fisker |
| 09:32.17 | Fisker | lol @ new mvps on eu forums btw |
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| 10:05.12 | DJJeff | http://i47.tinypic.com/119cv2h.jpg |
| 10:05.16 | DJJeff | Screenshot is epic |
| 10:05.31 | Fisker | i'm epic |
| 10:05.39 | DJJeff | sitting by the fire in the filthy animal chatting in trade chat |
| 10:06.05 | DJJeff | sigh I love WIMADDON |
| 10:06.16 | DJJeff | I just wanna give them all my $ |
| 10:06.35 | DJJeff | just like right now give the author $100,000 |
| 10:14.01 | DJJeff | is there something in the air tonight? |
| 10:14.09 | krka | most likely |
| 10:14.14 | DJJeff | people are in such a rotten mood |
| 10:14.36 | DJJeff | there are no holidays coming up |
| 10:14.42 | DJJeff | so there is no excuse |
| 10:14.42 | Legorol | it's summer! |
| 10:14.47 | Legorol | sunshine, flowers and women |
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| 10:14.58 | DJJeff | and naked beachs? |
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| 10:15.25 | DJJeff | whens the "official" 1st day of summer? |
| 10:15.34 | Legorol | depends where you live i guess... |
| 10:15.39 | DJJeff | true |
| 10:15.45 | Legorol | where i live, we usually have one weekend sometimes in july that we call "summer |
| 10:15.58 | DJJeff | I guess I should ask |
| 10:16.03 | DJJeff | whens the last day of school |
| 10:16.06 | DJJeff | before summer |
| 10:16.07 | Legorol | at the north pole, you have summer for 6 months straight |
| 10:16.12 | Legorol | it's damn cold, but the sun is up nonstop |
| 10:16.23 | DJJeff | im 24 and I dont goto highschool |
| 10:16.27 | DJJeff | anymore |
| 10:16.31 | Legorol | last day of school most definitely depends on where you live |
| 10:16.45 | bleeter | waaaa /dance as furbolg is still fail ffs |
| 10:16.45 | DJJeff | im sure most of the "KIDS" that play wow |
| 10:17.00 | bleeter | owait I moaned about that last week soz ssshhh |
| 10:17.09 | DJJeff | wait a sec........ |
| 10:17.16 | DJJeff | theres a star trek convention |
| 10:17.18 | DJJeff | coming to canada |
| 10:17.25 | DJJeff | and im just hearing about this.... now? |
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| 10:19.58 | DJJeff | http://www.creationent.com/cal/stvan.htm |
| 10:20.02 | DJJeff | yummmmmmmmmmy |
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| 10:22.42 | DJJeff | having 70 addons is great but none of them get me into ICC10/25 raid groups any faster X_X |
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| 10:40.00 | Wobin | DJJeff, perhaps you should lrn2play |
| 10:41.53 | A-KO | I hope blizz makes a windows mobile 7 version of the authenticator quickly....Imma get one of those phones later on.. |
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| 10:52.55 | DJJeff | lrn2play? |
| 10:52.58 | DJJeff | Wobin? |
| 10:54.18 | DJJeff | im not doing too bad |
| 10:54.19 | DJJeff | http://www.elitistarmory.com/US/Thorium%20Brotherhood/Alishar |
| 10:54.32 | DJJeff | just need to replace my PvP crap with Tier 10 |
| 10:57.11 | olafski | will "stray cats" survive in the wild if they're kittens? |
| 10:58.00 | bleeter | stray kittens, then? |
| 10:58.10 | olafski | sure call them that :) |
| 10:58.26 | olafski | I see at least 3 of them in the woods next to my apartment so I'm guessing a stray cat had a litter |
| 10:58.34 | olafski | right |
| 10:58.37 | olafski | litter is the wrong word I think :P |
| 10:58.47 | olafski | oh no it's correct according to dictionary.com |
| 11:00.55 | olafski | hm just counted a 4th |
| 11:06.34 | Wobin | olafski, call your nearest animal shelter and ask them |
| 11:06.54 | A-KO | hmm |
| 11:06.58 | olafski | yes think I'll do that tonight, no time for it now |
| 11:07.02 | A-KO | thinking about taking shorts with me to work so I can change after work and leave... |
| 11:07.15 | olafski | I don't like animal shelters, I'm always afraid they'll come pick up these cats and put them to sleep |
| 11:07.26 | olafski | I just counted a 5th kitten and a mother cat |
| 11:07.34 | A-KO | olafski: I have problems taking cats in like that |
| 11:07.34 | A-KO | heh |
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| 11:08.06 | A-KO | my ex gf came to me and was either going to take her cat to a shelter (13 years old) or wanted to give her to someone....I adopted the cat.....ex split a week later and moved to Arizona.... |
| 11:08.14 | A-KO | whore :P but w/e....cat's nice, lol |
| 11:09.02 | olafski | yeah I'd love to take all of these in but I'm not sure it's a good idea |
| 11:09.36 | olafski | I'd say they have more chance of survival in the woods here than in a shelter.. but I have no idea what happens to stray cats on campus either |
| 11:10.54 | A-KO | you could probably train them yourself if you had the time, just feed them, earn their trust, and then call the shelter....the shelter is likely to put mean, stray cats down. |
| 11:11.02 | A-KO | but if they're friendly around people they would probably try to adopt them |
| 11:11.07 | A-KO | they wouldn't put the kittens down, but likely the mother |
| 11:11.12 | A-KO | if the mother hates people.. |
| 11:11.19 | olafski | hm I think the mother is actually "owned" by one of the student groups here |
| 11:11.23 | A-KO | maybe she doesn't though, we've adopted a few cats here from out of nowhere... |
| 11:11.29 | olafski | they just let her roam all around the campus |
| 11:11.52 | olafski | the kittens look a bit too young to be mean to people .. aww |
| 11:11.58 | A-KO | yeah we've got a cat like that, sweetest cat I've ever met--roams around outside, been an outside cat, but absolutely loves people...she hated coming inside for quite a while but now does when it rains/snows/etc. |
| 11:12.31 | A-KO | lets you pet every part of her at any time without getting apprehensive |
| 11:12.44 | A-KO | you can grab her feet, legs, tail, head, stomach, etc.. |
| 11:12.49 | olafski | :) |
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| 11:13.33 | A-KO | I've kind of grown up around cats.....learned the birds and the bees from 'em, too haha |
| 11:14.21 | olafski | the local shelter has a lot of information and some kind of certification that includes proper care for stray kittens |
| 11:14.29 | olafski | I'll give em a call tonight |
| 11:20.21 | olafski | I could at least take a few pictures and videos to put on youtube ;) |
| 11:21.04 | A-KO | I'm pretty sure worst case scenario you could youtube/craigslist to find someone to take the cats if needed :P |
| 11:21.25 | A-KO | and you said a student group takes care of the mom, chances are a few of them might be able to take her and the kittens in |
| 11:21.37 | A-KO | mother cats are pretty protective of their litter though, and will follow them wherever |
| 11:21.44 | A-KO | so they really all gotta be taken as a set |
| 11:21.46 | olafski | I'm just afraid of vandals.. there are kids here who like to throw fireworks at cats and such |
| 11:21.51 | A-KO | dude |
| 11:21.52 | olafski | so I'm reluctant to say where these kittens are located |
| 11:21.54 | A-KO | I would shoot those kids |
| 11:21.59 | A-KO | ... |
| 11:22.00 | olafski | yes I would too but I don't own a firearm |
| 11:22.09 | A-KO | I would at least shoot at them |
| 11:22.10 | olafski | I would hit them with my fist though :) |
| 11:22.20 | olafski | anywho, bbl |
| 11:22.22 | A-KO | later |
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| 11:34.23 | Antiarc | Is it possible to get the coords of the enemy flag in Warsong, once it's visible on the map? |
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| 11:35.43 | mikma | antiarc: doubt it, it's yet another "there it goes and you can't do anything about it" feature |
| 11:36.47 | Antiarc | I'm adding a nav beacon to the friendly flag carrier in HudMap |
| 11:36.55 | Antiarc | Would be megaboss if I could add a beacon to the hostile flag carrier too |
| 11:37.02 | mikma | true |
| 11:37.30 | mikma | would be extra neat if the game would give x, y, z coords |
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| 11:55.46 | Fisker | hey Antiarc |
| 11:56.11 | Antiarc | Hey Fisker |
| 11:56.38 | Fisker | we has usb host support on nexus one :O |
| 11:58.13 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPo5ki_7lkk&fmt=18 <3 |
| 11:59.03 | Antiarc | Fisker: ...hot |
| 12:02.02 | Fisker | also google is being sued!1 |
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| 12:07.20 | Fisker | btw my nexus one was overheating because i accidentally hit the "Screen stay awake" option on the debug :P |
| 12:07.27 | Fisker | meaning that screen + wifi was running constantly :O |
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| 13:04.27 | harl | hallo |
| 13:04.42 | Fisker | my hate for you is eternal harl |
| 13:05.57 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker, go suck donkey eggs. |
| 13:14.13 | Fisker | i thought donkeys were mammals? |
| 13:14.20 | Fisker | why all the hate? |
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| 13:21.45 | Shirik | ~wiki Talk:Modern English School |
| 13:22.10 | Shirik | wtf does that last part even mean |
| 13:23.23 | Cide | it means he will do an advertisement in newspapers |
| 13:23.25 | Kraps | ads against wikipedia |
| 13:27.57 | Kraps | https://twitter.com/BPGlobalPR |
| 13:28.46 | Shirik | lmao wut? |
| 13:32.56 | Cide | https fail |
| 13:33.23 | Shirik | so like |
| 13:33.27 | Shirik | that's not really BP PR, right? |
| 13:33.35 | Arrowmaster | its not |
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| 13:39.08 | Shirik | huh |
| 13:39.10 | Shirik | I got two emails |
| 13:39.22 | Shirik | "Reported post from WoWInterface" and "Reported post from WoWInterface downloads" |
| 13:39.27 | Shirik | wonder why there's two o.o |
| 13:41.10 | Shirik | oshi |
| 13:41.10 | Cide | one is about downloads |
| 13:41.12 | Shirik | Kraps |
| 13:41.14 | Cide | the other about turtles |
| 13:41.14 | Shirik | The big news is that we have picked a date for releasing the new version |
| 13:41.14 | Shirik | of Flagged Revisions and launching the trial of Pending Changes on the |
| 13:41.14 | Shirik | English Wikipedia: June 14. |
| 13:41.25 | Cide | wait |
| 13:41.47 | Cide | so Kraps is a wikipedian-oob also? |
| 13:41.53 | Shirik | not as much as me |
| 13:42.20 | Kraps | Cide: i used to be very active |
| 13:42.30 | Kraps | but then i found a better MMO |
| 13:42.43 | Cide | ah |
| 13:43.04 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:MMO |
| 13:43.31 | Shirik | I am a game master |
| 13:47.22 | Kraps | the links to the words are win |
| 13:47.32 | Arrowmaster | doesnt that part about the dark lord need updating? |
| 13:48.15 | Shirik | actually that is still true on wikipedia |
| 13:48.22 | Shirik | this is why you need to not listen to Fo |
| 13:48.23 | Shirik | Fox |
| 13:48.34 | Arrowmaster | i dont listen to fox |
| 13:48.42 | Arrowmaster | i remember you mentioning it |
| 13:48.59 | Shirik | oh, well he gave up rights on commons |
| 13:49.02 | Shirik | and global |
| 13:49.09 | Shirik | but he's always had local rights |
| 13:49.35 | Shirik | Note the rights: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&username=Jimbo+Wales&group=&limit=1 |
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| 13:54.01 | Kraps | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ZEN |
| 13:54.33 | Shirik | I like #1 |
| 13:54.55 | Kraps | A Master spoke to his student, and said: "If you pay attention to the number of supports and opposes, you are calling it a vote. If you do not pay attention to the number of supports and opposes, you are ignoring consensus. Now, quickly, decide whether to promote!" |
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| 13:57.16 | Shirik | ha |
| 13:57.17 | Shirik | Kraps |
| 13:57.33 | Shirik | a friend of mine recently deleted an article that had like 8 keep and 2 delete !votes |
| 13:57.43 | Kraps | oof |
| 13:57.49 | Shirik | let me see if I can find it |
| 14:02.44 | Shirik | sorry I had it backwards |
| 14:03.03 | Shirik | he kept it when it was 8 delete 1 keep |
| 14:03.11 | Shirik | 2 keep sorry |
| 14:03.16 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Death_of_Gerry_Ryan |
| 14:03.32 | Shirik | and the following review: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2010_May_20 |
| 14:03.58 | durcyn | how... fascinating. |
| 14:04.28 | Shirik | stabs durcyn |
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| 14:12.33 | Fisker | cogwheel you here? |
| 14:12.53 | Shirik | Fisker you here? |
| 14:13.27 | Fisker | nope |
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| 14:13.42 | Shirik | oh |
| 14:13.46 | Shirik | snaeb looc |
| 14:13.54 | sylvanaar_atwork | guten Morgen |
| 14:13.58 | Kraps | Schrodinger Fisker |
| 14:13.58 | Shirik | hey Japan has a new PM |
| 14:14.06 | Fisker | nope Kraps |
| 14:14.10 | Fisker | cogwheel |
| 14:14.14 | Fisker | i need you more than ever |
| 14:14.18 | Shirik | oh baby |
| 14:14.54 | airtonix | monmonmon |
| 14:15.01 | airtonix | he tires of my baboons |
| 14:15.02 | Kraps | EU got 3 new MVPs |
| 14:15.34 | Fisker | what i need to talk about cogwheel about |
| 14:15.54 | Fisker | didn't know changing signatures were a requirement for the MVP program |
| 14:15.55 | Fisker | hoho |
| 14:16.47 | Kraps | http://www.massively.com/2010/06/04/lord-of-the-rings-online-going-free-to-play-this-fall/ |
| 14:16.49 | Kraps | O_O |
| 14:16.53 | airtonix | lol |
| 14:16.55 | haste | Shirik: 26 more days! |
| 14:17.00 | Shirik | uh |
| 14:17.01 | Shirik | until? |
| 14:17.17 | durcyn | Kraps: microtransactions galore, i presume? |
| 14:17.24 | haste | Shirik: I'm leaving for tokyo :P |
| 14:17.27 | Shirik | oh |
| 14:17.28 | Shirik | fun |
| 14:17.35 | Kraps | yup |
| 14:17.37 | Kraps | "LOTRO will introduce Turbine's innovative new pricing model that allows players to download the game and play for free, purchase expansions, quest packs, items, and account services a la carte from the new LOTRO Store, or join the VIP program to get unlimited access to all of the game's content for one low price." |
| 14:17.48 | Shirik | innovative? |
| 14:17.53 | Shirik | wtf is innovative about this |
| 14:17.53 | airtonix | haste, can you feel shiriks enthusiasm ? |
| 14:17.53 | durcyn | "insert coin to see gandalf naked" |
| 14:18.04 | haste | airtonix: I know he wants to go there again, so I'm teasing |
| 14:18.08 | Shirik | ^ |
| 14:18.11 | Shirik | :( |
| 14:18.27 | haste | on the bright side Shirik, I'm only staying a month :P |
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| 14:18.34 | Shirik | "only" |
| 14:18.57 | airtonix | yeah by then he'll be in large debit just from the garbage bin fees |
| 14:23.01 | Kraps | so is this bad or good? |
| 14:26.00 | airtonix | well if he takes fisker as garbage-disposal instead he might get off cheaper with paying fiskers airfare. |
| 14:26.12 | airtonix | but then he has to deal with customs... |
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| 14:26.34 | airtonix | fisker is a controlled substance. |
| 14:26.53 | airtonix | so you need a proper license to handle fisker |
| 14:27.25 | Fisker | slaps airtonix around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:30.09 | Kraps | GW2 looks so awesome |
| 14:30.26 | Kraps | plus all the mechanic and feature changes |
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| 14:36.39 | airtonix | indeed |
| 14:36.44 | Fisker | GW2? |
| 14:36.51 | Fisker | better not be Guild Wars 2 |
| 14:36.55 | airtonix | Groping Wind |
| 14:37.15 | Fisker | You are now exalted with Fisker |
| 14:37.35 | foxlit | ew, ew, get it off! |
| 14:37.35 | airtonix | i knew you were depraved enough to like an mmo farting game |
| 14:38.10 | foxlit | before you find a Fisker quatermaster. |
| 14:38.28 | Fisker | i don't have a quatermaster |
| 14:38.30 | airtonix | i'll master your quarter |
| 14:38.34 | foxlit | That you know. |
| 14:38.36 | foxlit | of. |
| 14:38.49 | Fisker | i'm quite sure i have no quatermaster |
| 14:39.24 | airtonix | (that's what i hear the doctor tell him every night before nightly sedative injections) |
| 14:39.45 | Kraps | Fisker: whats wrong with Guild Wars 2? |
| 14:40.29 | Fisker | What isn't wrong with GW2? |
| 14:40.32 | foxlit | Kraps: he probably doesn't have a forum account to troll there. |
| 14:40.39 | airtonix | lol |
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| 14:42.14 | Kraps | Fisker: um, the onus is on you to bring an argument |
| 14:43.51 | Fisker | the anus is on your dick |
| 14:43.51 | Fisker | hoho |
| 14:45.20 | Seerah | looks at Fisker. Seriously? |
| 14:45.33 | Kraps | Fisker: that was so predictable. You fail as trolling |
| 14:45.35 | Seerah | 1/10 |
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| 14:55.09 | Lopeppeppy | Woot, I got phished again! |
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| 14:59.13 | airtonix | Fisker, you know when they say you fail as a troll, that's when you're bone needle hits a nerve |
| 14:59.25 | airtonix | (that's another thing i hear the doctor tell him every night) |
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| 14:59.49 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:59.55 | airtonix | troll ? |
| 14:59.56 | Kraps | you're? |
| 15:00.01 | airtonix | winrar |
| 15:00.12 | Kraps | i are winar? |
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| 15:04.08 | cog|work | Fisker: |
| 15:05.08 | cog|work | FISKER! |
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| 15:09.53 | Fisker | cog|work |
| 15:09.57 | Fisker | why so cog|work? |
| 15:13.28 | cog|work | Fisker: has anything nice happened to you recently? |
| 15:16.43 | Seerah | lolol - outwitted by a 15 year old :) http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100603/ap_on_re_us/us_spelling_bee_protest |
| 15:18.14 | Ycarene | Is there a place I can go where I can construct a wish list of items for my character and equip them so I can see what effect they have? |
| 15:21.11 | airtonix | no, google has closed |
| 15:23.36 | airtonix | Ycarene, have you tried the wowhead profiler ? |
| 15:24.11 | airtonix | Ycarene, or gear wishlist ? http://gear-wishlist.appspot.com/ |
| 15:24.27 | durcyn | or rawr, or elitistarmory, or LMGTFY |
| 15:25.40 | airtonix | no dont use the suggestions of durcyn, he seeks to destroy you. |
| 15:26.31 | durcyn | if i could kill people with keystrokes, airtonix, overpopulation would've been solved years ago |
| 15:27.16 | airtonix | and you would be caught by a vb gui to track murderers ip addresses |
| 15:27.52 | airtonix | no one can escape the implied power of visual basic. |
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| 15:31.08 | Guest66665 | fuuuuuuuuuuuuu |
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| 15:35.16 | cog|work | Fisker: http://cogwheel.info/CONGORATS.jpg |
| 15:37.37 | Shirik_ | wow http://www.magnet101.com/ls.cfm?r=550796813&sid=9724183&m=1027066&u=POLICYIC&s=http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/wire/sns-ap-as-china-drugs,0,7752128.story |
| 15:38.06 | Cide | nice redirect link |
| 15:38.14 | Cide | stalkin' us |
| 15:38.39 | cog|work | passes out tinfoil hats |
| 15:38.44 | cog|work | ~lart Shirik_ |
| 15:38.44 | purl | executes killall -HUP Shirik_ |
| 15:39.00 | Shirik_ | sorry |
| 15:39.06 | Shirik_ | http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/wire/sns-ap-as-china-drugs,0,7752128.story |
| 15:39.27 | Cide | way to go |
| 15:39.30 | nicoli_s | i dont know why they hate opium so much |
| 15:39.34 | Cide | you also stalk us by air now? |
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| 15:39.58 | nicoli_s | opium is the shit |
| 15:41.04 | nicoli_s | id grow it myself if i knew how |
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| 15:45.28 | Lunessa | station |
| 15:47.20 | cog|work | station! |
| 15:48.06 | nicoli_s | exactly |
| 15:48.18 | Lunessa | is limbering up to hit F5 a lot tomorrow. |
| 15:48.38 | nicoli_s | ditto |
| 15:48.55 | nicoli_s | im really hoping we can get some more this time |
| 15:49.01 | nicoli_s | we need at least 1 person to be able to get 5 |
| 15:49.36 | Lunessa | I just need 1. |
| 15:50.34 | haste | I need 0. |
| 15:50.57 | Seerah | I need 2 |
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| 15:52.10 | Fisker | nothing nice ever happens to me cog|work |
| 15:52.15 | cog|work | i need OVER 9000 |
| 15:52.17 | nicoli_s | i think im already guaranteed one, but we just need more for the company |
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| 16:04.57 | Fisker | opium nicoli_s ? |
| 16:05.19 | haste | opium - Fisker has it. |
| 16:06.34 | nicoli_s | yah fisker, made from all natural poppies |
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| 16:06.41 | nicoli_s | smells of delicious incense |
| 16:06.53 | nicoli_s | i know you got it! |
| 16:14.21 | Lunessa | OMG - I got a flyer on my door this morning for "Home Delivery of 'Incense'" |
| 16:16.33 | Lunessa | http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/6/4/ |
| 16:17.03 | nicoli_s | lol really lunessa? |
| 16:17.50 | nicoli_s | they are probably trying to send you synthetic drugs that are labeled as incense that are all the rage these days |
| 16:17.51 | Lunessa | yeah, I really did. it says 'incense' on it, but the picture is of green, dried, well, you know. |
| 16:17.58 | nicoli_s | haha yeah thats totally it |
| 16:19.04 | Lunessa | I almost died laughing when I saw it. |
| 16:19.17 | nicoli_s | its funny how it works |
| 16:19.30 | nicoli_s | its just a bunch of random herbs that is sprayed with a synthetic canabbinoid |
| 16:20.58 | Fisker | so Lunessa |
| 16:21.03 | Fisker | how do i blow up nicoli_s ? |
| 16:22.15 | Sixen | With a bazooka. |
| 16:22.57 | Lopeppeppy | With a pez dispenser |
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| 16:23.38 | haste | our cat chased away a door salesman :D |
| 16:24.03 | Lopeppeppy | excellent kitty |
| 16:24.08 | haste | it started tearing away at a bird it had caught |
| 16:24.41 | Lunessa | http://punditkitchen.com/2010/06/03/political-pictures-gun-vendor-out-bubblegum/ |
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| 16:28.21 | Kraps | http://www.bigcrits.com/site/ is pretty cool |
| 16:29.08 | durcyn | meta refresh, how quaint. |
| 16:35.44 | Fisker | so foxlit |
| 16:36.03 | Fisker | it appears that the thing about freedom of speech were only relevant when slandering muslims and their faith |
| 16:36.06 | Fisker | :3 |
| 16:42.59 | Fisker | Sixen did the beta end early? |
| 16:43.11 | Sixen | nip |
| 16:43.13 | Sixen | nup* |
| 16:43.14 | Fisker | wut |
| 16:43.19 | Sixen | Beta pohase 1 ends the 7th |
| 16:43.24 | Fisker | can't post on the forums |
| 16:43.33 | Sixen | The DB was reset last night and Patch 15 went live |
| 16:43.36 | Sixen | Go make a new character |
| 16:43.43 | Fisker | oh |
| 16:44.03 | Fisker | did they make the battle.net a little less terrible then? :P |
| 16:44.12 | Sixen | erm |
| 16:44.14 | Sixen | :X |
| 16:44.19 | Fisker | doesn't look like it :/ |
| 16:44.45 | Fisker | Unless they're shitting us, Battle.net 2.0 is like the farthest step back ever made |
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| 16:57.23 | Pneumatus^ | Fisker: http://i.imgur.com/kQk61.jpg |
| 16:59.46 | foxlit | 2.0 clearly > stone |
| 17:00.12 | Pneumatus^ | it shouldn't be too hard to get stones facebook intergrated though |
| 17:00.16 | Pneumatus^ | which would make them better |
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| 17:03.42 | Pneumatus | oh great, the Plagued author is a dv |
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| 17:04.02 | Pneumatus | rather than a nice little addon that does just what I need, i now need to download a pile of bloatfest for it to work |
| 17:06.24 | Lunessa | If you don't like someone else's addon.... write your own. |
| 17:08.12 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgnMpOU1LNQ&feature=player_embedded |
| 17:08.48 | Lopeppeppy | crafts the LunessAddon! |
| 17:10.00 | |Jelly| | I'd use it |
| 17:12.36 | Lopeppeppy | Makes a mean chili! |
| 17:15.39 | cog|work | should it be spanked? |
| 17:15.47 | Lopeppeppy | He wouldn't like that. |
| 17:16.12 | cog|work | should you be spanked for making it mean? |
| 17:16.21 | Lopeppeppy | *purr* |
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| 17:17.33 | Cairenn | *purr* |
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| 17:19.58 | MoonWitch | purrs at Cairenn and Lopeppeppy |
| 17:20.03 | Cairenn | :) |
| 17:20.13 | MoonWitch | gonna go eat now -- but ;) |
| 17:26.45 | DWSR | Hey all. I'm at wonderland! |
| 17:26.56 | Lopeppeppy | Bless you my child. |
| 17:27.48 | DWSR | Lol it's an amusement park with roller coasters and stuff. |
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| 17:28.52 | DWSR | IRC on an android phone. This world is getting way too connected. |
| 17:29.06 | cog|work | misses his droid |
| 17:29.27 | cog|work | still has it, but switched back to his old phone so he could drop the data plan |
| 17:29.28 | NightHawkTheSane | what happened to it? |
| 17:29.31 | DWSR | I have an se xperia x10 |
| 17:29.39 | NightHawkTheSane | DWSR: how're you doing IRC on it, out of curiosity? |
| 17:29.51 | cog|work | i use connectbot to connect to my ssh server |
| 17:30.07 | DWSR | Andchat. |
| 17:30.14 | NightHawkTheSane | cog|work: yeah, thats what I do to (the twice i've ever cared to log into irc from my phone :P) |
| 17:30.18 | NightHawkTheSane | too* |
| 17:30.35 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: I prefer to give spankings, but you never know... *wicked smile* |
| 17:30.37 | DWSR | I'm also using the ShapeWriter keyboard. |
| 17:30.41 | cog|work | it needs better motorola droid keyboard support |
| 17:30.46 | DWSR | Pretty quick actual |
| 17:30.56 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, indeed. Sorry to assume, Lunessa, I'll let you and Cog hash out the details. |
| 17:31.16 | DWSR | Change to the ShapeWriter keyboard. |
| 17:31.34 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Nah, I've had dinner and drinks with cog|work. He's not my type for spankings. Wrong plumbing. Unless you mean WoW PvP? |
| 17:31.35 | DWSR | I can't stand any other osk. |
| 17:31.49 | cog|work | lulz i was talking about the chili not the LunessAddon |
| 17:31.56 | DWSR | Lol. |
| 17:33.10 | cog|work | if you don't get con tix, you can come visit me in wine country :) |
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| 17:34.06 | Lunessa | Oh man. I could tear me up some pinot grapes. |
| 17:36.37 | DWSR | Lol. |
| 17:36.39 | DWSR | I'm out. Later all. |
| 17:37.25 | Lunessa | cog|work: If I were to go to wine country, it's almost certain to end badly - like the movie "Sideways" |
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| 17:40.10 | cog|work | haha |
| 17:41.13 | nicoli_s | i did not like that movie |
| 17:45.14 | Lunessa | lol - "Does this rag smell like chloroform to you? " a forum .sig |
| 17:46.53 | haste | common quote is common :P |
| 17:47.08 | Lunessa | But it makes me laugh. |
| 17:50.26 | haste | is allowed. |
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| 17:58.15 | Fisker | haste |
| 17:58.20 | Fisker | what happened to your sons dog? |
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| 18:03.47 | haste | Fisker: you ***ed it! |
| 18:03.59 | Fisker | fuck |
| 18:04.03 | Fisker | daybreakers = fail |
| 18:04.23 | Fisker | they have "sun safe" glass, but yet they use cameras to navigate in cars during day |
| 18:04.30 | Fisker | Why not just use some of that glass duh? |
| 18:05.16 | Thunder_Child | no detial in the sunsafe glass |
| 18:05.28 | Fisker | detial? |
| 18:05.29 | Thunder_Child | not recomended for driving |
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| 18:05.34 | Thunder_Child | detail* |
| 18:05.36 | Fisker | wat? |
| 18:05.42 | Fisker | i lol'd |
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| 18:09.43 | airtonix | you would |
| 18:12.19 | Fisker | slaps airtonix around a bit with a large trout |
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| 18:23.09 | MoonWitch | Ok : http://www.laptopshop.be/product/86159/category-27414-qwerty-laptops/hp-pavilion-dv6-2140sd.html or http://www.4launch.nl/shop/#p-4-productid-090755 Yes, itś dutch, but i assume most know what MB etc means.. Which one would you take - NOT gaming laptop btw |
| 18:28.01 | durcyn | i would not recommend an hp laptop to anyone ever, even if my life depended on it |
| 18:30.59 | kd3 | gack |
| 18:31.10 | kd3 | that's 5 spam messages that have gotten past gmail's filters |
| 18:31.26 | MoonWitch | durcyn: might I ask why? |
| 18:31.41 | Dagmar | I'mma have to say the ASUS one |
| 18:32.01 | MoonWitch | yeah that's what I've been advised on too - to get the Asus :) |
| 18:32.04 | durcyn | MoonWitch: we have some dv3 and dv7s at work, they're shoddy, they have glossy screens, the keyboards are almost unusable, and the power subsystems suck |
| 18:32.20 | durcyn | one of them is on its 4th battery in a year |
| 18:32.21 | Lopeppeppy | I got a compaq. But many laptops have heat transfer issues... I would get a mac laptop now, if I had the choice. |
| 18:32.25 | Dagmar | They don't say what type of battery the HP has, which probably means it's a 4-cell. |
| 18:32.27 | MoonWitch | based on work ones, I disliked Dell enough to not get one |
| 18:32.34 | MoonWitch | ah |
| 18:32.38 | cog|work | glossy screens are great if they have antireflective coatings |
| 18:32.45 | Dagmar | The ASUS definitely has a 6-cell |
| 18:32.45 | cog|work | which most don't |
| 18:32.48 | MoonWitch | Lopeppeppy: I want to as well, but just lack the funding :P |
| 18:32.55 | durcyn | thinkpads or macbooks for me, personally |
| 18:33.00 | Fisker | hey cog|work |
| 18:33.03 | Fisker | C&D in yo face |
| 18:33.04 | Fisker | bam |
| 18:33.09 | MoonWitch | yeah I've had a thinkpad, ya can't break the damn things |
| 18:33.23 | Dashkal | I'd almost consider a cooling pad mandatory for a modern laptop. At minimum raise it fromt eh desk just enough for some heat dissappation |
| 18:33.29 | Dagmar | Moonwitch: Oh trust me, it can be done. :) |
| 18:33.31 | cog|work | Fisker: http://cogwheel.info/CONGORATS.jpg |
| 18:33.49 | Dagmar | Dashkal: If you're considering a cooling pad mandatory, you're doing something wrong |
| 18:34.12 | Dagmar | There should always be enough clearance for the necessary ventilation to take place when they're running on a hard surface. |
| 18:34.29 | Dashkal | I'm silly. I liek to pretend that laptops can be run on, well, laps |
| 18:34.39 | Dagmar | If you flop the things down atop a fluffy comforter pillow, expect 'em to die |
| 18:34.44 | Dashkal | If I require a desk, why did I bother? |
| 18:34.51 | Dagmar | No one really types with the keyboard in their lap |
| 18:35.03 | Fisker | it's so old cog|work |
| 18:35.05 | Dashkal | Pay attention the next time you take public transit |
| 18:35.09 | Seerah | closer to my knees still = lap |
| 18:35.22 | MoonWitch | SEERAH |
| 18:35.30 | Seerah | and yeah, you can break a ThinkPad :) |
| 18:35.36 | Seerah | waves at moonie |
| 18:35.40 | Dagmar | Dashkal: Either way, perched on knees shouldn't kill them either |
| 18:35.59 | Dashkal | I'd hesitate to rest a laptop on any cloth surface |
| 18:36.34 | Iriel | it really depends where they vent from |
| 18:36.48 | Iriel | my macs vent out the back, the bottom is entirely solid |
| 18:37.34 | Dashkal | You has a point there. But macs are out for me. I have a ... dislike. For apple |
| 18:38.08 | MoonWitch | I can't really believe I am about to just hit "Buy" on 1k lol |
| 18:38.31 | durcyn | a thousand laughs is a small price to pay |
| 18:39.00 | MoonWitch | and now a mouse to go with it |
| 18:39.03 | MoonWitch | and we're good |
| 18:39.09 | Lunessa | trackball ftw |
| 18:39.25 | haste | glares at his logitech mx518 with a faded logitech logo |
| 18:39.40 | haste | I'm not looking forward to the day i fails |
| 18:39.41 | MoonWitch | caresses her Razer Lachesis |
| 18:40.01 | Seerah | my Dell vents out the side |
| 18:40.03 | haste | have razer fixed their shitty build quality? |
| 18:40.11 | MoonWitch | mine is very sturdy |
| 18:40.18 | |Jelly| | my compaq overheats from the bottom and sides |
| 18:40.20 | haste | I ran through three of the first mouse they had |
| 18:40.24 | MoonWitch | wow |
| 18:40.25 | Lunessa | Logitech Trackman Wheel is FOR THE WIN - bitches. |
| 18:40.34 | MoonWitch | mine's not broken down once |
| 18:40.36 | MoonWitch | not even a glitch |
| 18:40.39 | haste | they lost connection in the cable |
| 18:40.46 | MoonWitch | Lunessa: How you calling me?? |
| 18:40.48 | haste | I've had my MX518 since release :P |
| 18:40.53 | |Jelly| | http://i47.tinypic.com/fx7385.jpg yaaaay! |
| 18:40.55 | durcyn | *cough* multitouch trackpad *cough* |
| 18:40.55 | Lunessa | I'm calling EVERYONE. |
| 18:41.12 | MoonWitch | I've had a G5 which I loved, Lachesis and at work an M500 Logitech |
| 18:41.17 | olafski | congratulations |jelly| |
| 18:41.21 | |Jelly| | thanks |
| 18:41.23 | MoonWitch | Gratz Jelly! |
| 18:41.26 | |Jelly| | I <3 my G5 too |
| 18:41.26 | Dagmar | When you buy Razr you're not buying them for their build quality, you're buying them because their ads promised that with their mouse you'd be a "real gamer" and stop sucking so much |
| 18:41.29 | Lunessa | Jelly - this is like number 5 for you? |
| 18:41.34 | cog|work | <3 my G5 & G7 |
| 18:41.36 | MoonWitch | also - sexy UI |
| 18:41.43 | |Jelly| | Lunessa: Yeah. lol |
| 18:41.47 | Iriel | I love my G5's (I have one at home and one at work) |
| 18:41.49 | MoonWitch | Dagmar, I could care less about the advertising |
| 18:42.18 | |Jelly| | I don't know, if being a 'real gamer' makes me a raging prick like Fatal1ty ... I'm ok with failing. |
| 18:42.23 | haste | Dagmar: I neved paid for mine, so I don't really see it as a loss :P |
| 18:42.26 | Dagmar | Moonwitch: Then you probably want a G5 or a G7 |
| 18:42.30 | MoonWitch | Same here Jelly |
| 18:42.37 | MoonWitch | Dagmar: I also have a G5 |
| 18:42.38 | Dagmar | Two thumb buttons == win with pet classes |
| 18:42.40 | Lunessa | I would really like a trackball model with say... 8 buttons on it. But... no one seems to be making such things for the gimp market. |
| 18:42.41 | MoonWitch | it's in the living room :) |
| 18:42.45 | Iriel | Though I have to flip to a trackball about once every five years to avoid RSI |
| 18:42.50 | haste | G7 looks like MX518 |
| 18:43.07 | haste | but with only one button on the side :P |
| 18:43.10 | Dagmar | 'cept it's made with different baby alien skulls |
| 18:43.31 | Lunessa | Iriel: RSI is why I use a trackball exclusively now. |
| 18:43.38 | Dagmar | s/more/any/; |
| 18:44.07 | Dagmar | Meh. Just keep playing until the wrists callus up |
| 18:44.37 | MoonWitch | voila .. all set |
| 18:44.42 | MoonWitch | just gotta hit send on it :P |
| 18:44.49 | MoonWitch | notebook sleeve + laptop + mouse |
| 18:44.54 | MoonWitch | god this hurts |
| 18:45.04 | MoonWitch | it's almost as bad as the 5k for epic flying |
| 18:45.05 | Lunessa | wants a new computer, but ... |
| 18:45.27 | Dagmar | I want a new ASUS netbook but the fuckers are being slow getting them to market |
| 18:45.52 | Dagmar | Brushed black aluminum, 14 hour battery life, 10 inch screen, fingerprint swipe reader... effing GIMME |
| 18:45.55 | Iriel | I'm waiting for a tablet that doesn't suck |
| 18:46.21 | Fisker | Didn't MSI make optional EFI on all of their new mobos? |
| 18:46.27 | MoonWitch | are netbooks really that oooh? |
| 18:46.34 | MoonWitch | I found em slow and annoying |
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| 18:46.39 | Lunessa | My current desktop isn't really any better than most modern laptops - but my desktop is about 5 years old. |
| 18:46.42 | Iriel | I think it depends what you do with them |
| 18:47.09 | Dagmar | Moonwitch: I have a plethora of fast machines I can connect mine to. I don't need *it* to be fast |
| 18:47.10 | Iriel | If your idea of 'awesome' is a facebook update, I'm pretty sure netbooks are the win |
| 18:47.10 | Lunessa | And for 'portable' computing, i just use my Blackberry or iPhone. |
| 18:47.11 | MoonWitch | well my laptop would serve for some coding (not compiling though), web design - code again, surfing etc |
| 18:47.45 | Dagmar | What I need is for the netbook to *stay running for hours on end*, be small enough to fit under the seat of my scooter, and preferably have SSDs |
| 18:47.48 | MoonWitch | pretty standard stuff - a movie here and there, pdf --- shit you do while on the road ya know |
| 18:48.09 | MoonWitch | I'd also need it to run Linux |
| 18:48.14 | MoonWitch | that's about it |
| 18:48.21 | MoonWitch | everything else is desktop |
| 18:48.41 | Iriel | though a nice lightweight portable machine IN ADDITION to a hefty desktop or server can be super useful, which is where my tablet desires come in, and I suspect here dagmar is coming from |
| 18:49.19 | MoonWitch | http://www.4launch.nl/shop/product/085135/asus-netbook-eee-pc-1201n-12-1---n330--250gb--w7--zwart- so this would be equally handy? |
| 18:49.20 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 18:49.21 | durcyn | Iriel: macbook air fills that niche for me |
| 18:50.01 | cbreak | someone actually likes the air? |
| 18:50.13 | Iriel | durcyn: How do you like it, my wife keeps almost buying one |
| 18:50.17 | Lunessa | Lots of people like the air. |
| 18:50.37 | cbreak | I like the 12" Mac Book/Mac Book Pro |
| 18:50.43 | cbreak | perfect form factor imho. |
| 18:51.11 | Dagmar | You want something like http://www.slashgear.com/asus-eee-pc-1018p-spotted-at-cebit-atom-n455n475-usb-3-0-bluetooth-3-0-0176160/ |
| 18:51.17 | Dagmar | They have a 10" model of that ilk as well |
| 18:51.28 | MoonWitch | that's mighty sexy |
| 18:51.33 | Dagmar | ASUS is leveling their guns at Apple now |
| 18:51.40 | sylvanaar_atwork | i like my iPad |
| 18:51.43 | |Jelly| | that is sexy |
| 18:51.52 | MoonWitch | oh yes -- It might be used for pr0n purposes too |
| 18:51.55 | cbreak | 10 is too small |
| 18:51.58 | sylvanaar_atwork | i rarely use my laptop anymore |
| 18:52.01 | Lopeppeppy | *snark* |
| 18:52.06 | cbreak | (and I like OS X :) |
| 18:52.12 | Dagmar | How do you intend to keep that screen clean? |
| 18:52.16 | sylvanaar_atwork | with a cloth |
| 18:52.17 | |Jelly| | I like having a more portable laptop for school. |
| 18:52.31 | Iriel | I can't take the ipad seriously |
| 18:52.38 | MoonWitch | tried the iPad |
| 18:52.42 | sylvanaar_atwork | i have a bluetooth keyboard for when i need it |
| 18:52.46 | MoonWitch | it's really just an oversized iPod touch |
| 18:52.48 | Iriel | but i am not the target audience |
| 18:52.50 | |Jelly| | How long did it take for you t... nevermind |
| 18:52.53 | Lunessa | Com'on - in this channel there is the understanding that all computers are used for porn purposes. Watching, collecting, or creating. |
| 18:53.00 | MoonWitch | ok |
| 18:53.06 | Dagmar | Not many of them make you touch the screen tho |
| 18:53.07 | MoonWitch | just thought I'd mention it =-= |
| 18:53.36 | cbreak | I don't think the iPad is a creation device |
| 18:53.40 | Lopeppeppy | I despise how dirty the boyfriend's iPad screen gets. Eeew. |
| 18:53.40 | sylvanaar_atwork | you know - if you own an iphone an ipad makes sense |
| 18:53.45 | Dagmar | iWobble or whatever it was on the iPad tho... NICE |
| 18:53.47 | cbreak | more a consumption/access/controll device |
| 18:54.00 | MoonWitch | so more for bdsm folks? |
| 18:54.02 | Lopeppeppy | and yes, cbreak, it's not a a creation device, you're right. Just a convenience tool. |
| 18:54.14 | MoonWitch | (yes, I am on a mission) |
| 18:54.16 | sylvanaar_atwork | you think netbooks are creation devices? |
| 18:54.18 | Lopeppeppy | bdsm folks would put their iPad in a plastic bag, they know how to keep clean. |
| 18:54.23 | Thunder_Child | Iriel: convertable > tablet |
| 18:54.24 | MoonWitch | true |
| 18:54.25 | Dagmar | sylvanaar_atwork: Actually, yeah |
| 18:54.28 | cbreak | maybe good for easy data entry. |
| 18:54.30 | MoonWitch | Lopeppeppy: i like you a lot more |
| 18:54.51 | cbreak | like a register in a shop. Or a remote control. |
| 18:54.53 | Iriel | Thunder_Child: I'd be happy with either, my previous experiment was a convertible |
| 18:54.56 | Lunessa | Actually, something like the iPad would be really useful in a sales floor or wharehouse. |
| 18:55.20 | Lopeppeppy | Very, Lunessa. Portable demos at a visible size. |
| 18:55.20 | Iriel | The form factor's a bit too big |
| 18:55.24 | Iriel | the touch is better |
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| 18:55.40 | |Jelly| | I just almost killed my DK by jumping off something. Been playing my instantly-a-bird druid too long. |
| 18:55.48 | cbreak | if you want to show stuff to customers, it might be nice to have it's size |
| 18:56.09 | cbreak | (ignore the last apostrophe) |
| 18:56.34 | Iriel | I see a lot of sales execs with them now |
| 18:56.40 | Iriel | Those doing visits TO customers |
| 18:56.52 | Iriel | where they can stick it in their bag, whip it out to show a stupid powerpoint, then put it back |
| 18:56.56 | cbreak | scientology recruiters? |
| 18:57.10 | Dagmar | People who are afraid of color laser printers |
| 18:57.28 | Lunessa | or want to store stuff on the cloud somewhere. |
| 18:57.29 | Iriel | you can't do cheesy animations on paper |
| 18:57.37 | cog|work | yet |
| 18:57.38 | batrick | made the silly mistake of calling vim on a 3.4G file :( |
| 18:57.39 | Lopeppeppy | "on the cloud" |
| 18:57.40 | Lunessa | Or show video. |
| 18:57.46 | batrick | took ~5 minutes to load |
| 18:57.47 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, I am going to murder you for that. The moment I see you. |
| 18:57.47 | Dagmar | Iriel: Wanna bet? |
| 18:57.47 | Iriel | That too, but dont underestimate the blocking power of brick and steel buildings |
| 18:57.57 | cog|work | Dagmar: flip books? |
| 18:58.02 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Before or after you hug me? |
| 18:58.11 | Dagmar | http://www.robertsabuda.com/popmakesimple.asp |
| 18:58.26 | cbreak | there are nice books that contain 3d models |
| 18:58.31 | Dagmar | Also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYlreWXpRgM |
| 18:58.32 | Lopeppeppy | During. |
| 18:58.42 | cog|work | Dagmar: "on paper" vs "with paper" imo |
| 18:58.45 | cog|work | ;) |
| 18:58.47 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: HOT |
| 18:59.07 | Dagmar | cog: But it's both! That's the beauty of it... unlike PowerPoint, which has no beauty |
| 18:59.19 | Lopeppeppy | << rogue, remember? |
| 18:59.23 | Lopeppeppy | Stabby stabby. |
| 18:59.33 | Thunder_Child | you hug from behind? |
| 18:59.38 | Dagmar | Count Stabula |
| 18:59.59 | Lopeppeppy | TC, if I can't back stab him while hugging him, I'm hugging him wrong. |
| 18:59.59 | Lunessa | stabby stabby gouge bandage stabby stabby |
| 19:00.03 | MoonWitch | wow that book is awesome |
| 19:00.05 | |Jelly| | When was the last time you logged on your rogue? |
| 19:01.09 | Lopeppeppy | Week ago, just to annoy the ex. |
| 19:01.21 | Lunessa | ... |
| 19:01.23 | |Jelly| | Sounds out of practice to me! |
| 19:01.29 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy: it's surprising difficult to stab someone like that. you really dont have much force behind it |
| 19:01.56 | Lunessa | She will use a really sharp knife and just slip it in, all nice and gentle-like. |
| 19:01.56 | Lopeppeppy | I don't need much force if the knife is sharp, and the spinal column vulnerable as he bends over to hug my short self. |
| 19:02.04 | Lopeppeppy | Gentle. *scoff* |
| 19:02.19 | Thunder_Child | catually i would suggest the kidneys vs. the spine |
| 19:02.22 | Thunder_Child | actually* |
| 19:02.33 | Lunessa | Then she will scream a lot when my heavy self falls on her. |
| 19:02.59 | Thunder_Child | you arch backwards in pain |
| 19:03.05 | Thunder_Child | when it's like that |
| 19:04.20 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: I'll make sure to fall on her. |
| 19:04.57 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa: good like trying to think straight after being stabbed in the kidneys |
| 19:05.02 | Thunder_Child | luck* |
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| 19:05.39 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: I've managed to remain rational after being shot in the foot with a .22, stabbed in the shoulder with scissors and during multiple piercings. |
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| 19:06.31 | Dagmar | I like how those things are grouped together. |
| 19:06.38 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa: i would bet there was maybe 5 seconds or so of mind blankage |
| 19:06.58 | MoonWitch | Thunder_Child: up for an experiment? |
| 19:07.03 | Thunder_Child | enough time for Lopeppeppy to scoot |
| 19:07.07 | Lunessa | MoonWitch: ROFL |
| 19:07.25 | MoonWitch | Lunessa and Thunder_Child I could NOT let that opportunity go |
| 19:07.46 | Thunder_Child | MoonWitch: ok, but do you really want to get stabbed in your kidney? |
| 19:08.04 | MoonWitch | Thunder_Child: Sure but I get to shoot you and pierce you |
| 19:08.35 | Thunder_Child | MoonWitch: why? i'm arguing the other side |
| 19:08.46 | Thunder_Child | you get to take Lunessa's spot |
| 19:09.07 | MoonWitch | I don't doubt his words, you do = thus you should be convinced of his words :P |
| 19:09.59 | Lopeppeppy | You guys do the experimenting, I'll bring the fava beans for dinner afterward. |
| 19:10.07 | Thunder_Child | which means i stab kidneys and dodge, the other stuff was supporting evidence which isnt needed |
| 19:10.24 | Kraps | ctf again? :/ http://www.mmo-champion.com/news-2/cataclysm-twin-peaks-battleground/ |
| 19:10.41 | MoonWitch | gah .. ctf sucks |
| 19:10.46 | Thunder_Child | it's a good thing |
| 19:10.47 | MoonWitch | unless in a ctf game :P |
| 19:11.29 | Thunder_Child | besides, better maps like the for the rated bg's |
| 19:11.45 | Kraps | however, it looks good |
| 19:12.02 | Kraps | wtb a nuke dropped on wsg |
| 19:12.44 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: wsg is one of the more balanced maps |
| 19:13.25 | Kraps | thats not the problem |
| 19:14.07 | Kraps | i have a problem with all the NE zones |
| 19:14.33 | Thunder_Child | if you are looking at the scenery instead of the players/flag, you dont belong there |
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| 19:15.31 | Kraps | i cant SEE the players/flag because of the scenery |
| 19:16.04 | MoonWitch | and I just spent half my paycheck lol |
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| 19:34.47 | MoonWitch | going to give freebsd a whirl :) |
| 19:35.06 | Dagmar | Just don't spin it fast. |
| 19:35.09 | Dagmar | BSD doesn't like "fast" |
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| 20:01.22 | Fisker | haste |
| 20:01.24 | Fisker | i fucked your sons dog |
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| 20:03.30 | Kraps | got a 71/0/0 dk here :( |
| 20:03.50 | cbreak | could be worse. |
| 20:03.54 | cbreak | could be 0/0/0 |
| 20:04.22 | Kraps | you wouldnt say that if it was your group |
| 20:09.07 | |Jelly| | What are you in a group for? |
| 20:11.01 | Kraps | AN |
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| 20:15.54 | Fisker | Kraps |
| 20:15.57 | Fisker | i fucked your mom |
| 20:16.02 | Fisker | that's what you get |
| 20:16.50 | Fisker | yeah didn't expect that now did you? |
| 20:16.58 | Fisker | not so predictable now, etc. |
| 20:17.14 | Kraps | lolumad |
| 20:17.21 | Fisker | naw |
| 20:18.32 | Lazai1 | anyone happen to know why a frame created in LUA wouldn't be able to anchor to a frame in xml? |
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| 20:19.21 | cbreak | http://dresdencodak.com/2010/06/03/dark-science-01/ ! |
| 20:19.38 | Fisker | oh man |
| 20:19.38 | Iriel | Lazai1: Are either of them protected? |
| 20:19.40 | Fisker | i was so awesome |
| 20:19.47 | Iriel | Lazai1: I'm going to guess 'no' |
| 20:19.47 | Fisker | kraps basically killed himself |
| 20:20.54 | Kraps | lol |
| 20:21.43 | Lazai1 | Iriel: Let me double check, but I don't believe so |
| 20:22.38 | Lazai1 | ok, the frame I am attempting to anchor to is not, but the frame I am attempting to anchor is inheriting "SecureHandlerStateTemplate" |
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| 20:24.41 | Kraps | FF crashed :( |
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| 20:27.42 | Fisker | Final Fantasy? |
| 20:28.43 | Kraps | shut up |
| 20:29.59 | Alram | hi Fisker |
| 20:31.04 | Fisker | hey Alram |
| 20:31.12 | Fisker | why does Kraps tell me to shut up when i'm right? :( |
| 20:31.27 | NightHawkTheSane | he can't handle your awesomeness, clearly. |
| 20:31.37 | Kraps | protip: you arent right |
| 20:32.09 | NightHawkTheSane | if we're being pendantic, he kind of is. Fx is the official abbreviation for Firefox, not FF. |
| 20:32.55 | Kraps | you know what? |
| 20:33.01 | Kraps | i hate you all |
| 20:33.20 | Kraps | happy now? |
| 20:33.28 | cbreak | FF skull! |
| 20:33.31 | NightHawkTheSane | ... actually, yeah, kind of. |
| 20:34.25 | Kraps | brb gonna kill myself |
| 20:35.38 | Fisker | Kraps got so trolled |
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| 20:38.59 | Lunessa | drops a bomb on you. |
| 20:39.19 | NightHawkTheSane | mmm bombs.. |
| 20:39.22 | Kraps | is this a good pve spec? http://www.wowhead.com/talent#bVcbuhhVRIsffRtfxzc |
| 20:41.57 | Iriel | Lazai1: (sorry stepped away for a bit) -- You SHOULD be able to anchor to a secure frame just fine, did you clear any existing anchors before setting your anchor? |
| 20:44.03 | Lunessa | Kraps: I don't see any glaring flaws. Bubble-bot is pretty much all you'll do. |
| 20:44.07 | Lazai1 | yeah, I have ClearAllPoints() set right above the setpoint call |
| 20:44.36 | mikma | cairenn|afk: http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/asshole_cat.jpg |
| 20:44.38 | mikma | ahheheeha |
| 20:44.45 | Lazai1 | I am trying to anchor a secure frame to a nonsecure frame from the sound of it, could that be the problem? |
| 20:45.17 | Iriel | Lazai1: Hm,have you tried /dump yourFrame:GetPoint(1) ? |
| 20:45.47 | mikma | tekkub: http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/sir_ian_mckellen.jpg :D |
| 20:46.03 | Lazai1 | Iriel: No I haven't. It looks like its actually just anchoring straight back to UIParent |
| 20:46.04 | Iriel | That could be the problem, are you doing the anchoring in or out of combat? In regular lua code or not? |
| 20:47.17 | Lazai1 | Iriel: Out of combat, unsecure anchor frame is XML, secureframe is lua |
| 20:47.41 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/batman_and_robin.jpg |
| 20:47.58 | Iriel | Out of combat I would have expected that to work, my guess is you're misreferencing the anchor TO frame, and it's defauling to nil (the screen) |
| 20:48.53 | mikma | L4D2 Mutations, Chainsaw Massacre! |
| 20:51.15 | NightHawkTheSane | grumbles about coworkers leaving for the day when i still have stuff to pester him about >< |
| 20:53.18 | Lazai1 | Iriel: I ran the dump, I get [1]=BOTTOMRIGHT, [3]=BOTTOMLEFT, and 4 and 5 are 0 |
| 20:53.40 | Iriel | That's sort of what I expected |
| 20:53.47 | Iriel | you've anchored to 'nil' (the screen) |
| 20:54.01 | Iriel | Pastey the code, maybe one of us can see what you did wrong |
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| 20:55.13 | Lazai1 | Iriel: frame:SetPoint("BOTTOMRIGHT", CenterFrame, "BOTTOMLEFT") |
| 20:55.57 | Iriel | My guess is CenterFrame is nil at that point |
| 20:56.22 | Lazai1 | is it possible that the LUA code is loading before the frames are loaded from the XML? |
| 20:56.43 | Lazai1 | oh good lord |
| 20:56.54 | Lazai1 | I think I just answered my own question |
| 20:57.45 | cbreak | you can decide the order by reordering your toc file |
| 20:59.43 | Lazai1 | cbreak: that just occurred to me, hence the monkey touching the monolith moment ;) |
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| 21:01.10 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik_] by ChanServ |
| 21:01.15 | Shirik_ | omg wtb variadic templates |
| 21:01.17 | Shirik_ | plox |
| 21:01.26 | mikma | wipeout s03e01, so awesome |
| 21:01.36 | Lunessa | Lazai1: 2001 reference earns you +10 Lunessa rep. |
| 21:04.02 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
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| 21:07.24 | Ackis | logs into IRC just to climate change cog|work |
| 21:07.31 | cog|work | chuckles |
| 21:08.16 | Ackis | I hope I get an award for being the first person to bring the 1919 White Sox into the climate change argument. :) |
| 21:09.37 | Lunessa | Call us back when you've managed to make Cassius Marcellus Clay Jr. relevant to that debate. |
| 21:10.39 | Ackis | :( |
| 21:11.46 | Fisker | i did it Ackis |
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| 21:15.24 | Lazai1 | HAH! Thanks for all your help guys =D |
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| 21:17.14 | Ackis | Woman has son kill cow over beef with neighbor. US DA willing to cut choice deal in return for testimony and udder considerations (u |
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| 21:18.34 | Kraps | http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HurricaneOfPuns ? |
| 21:20.20 | Fisker | luuuuuuulz Ackis |
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| 21:22.11 | Ackis | good news, gearscore was updated today! |
| 21:22.48 | Sesshu | http://kuvaton.com/browse/14812/google_street_view_shenanigans.gif |
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| 21:25.01 | foxlit | Ackis: meh, addons with < 9000 addonscore aren't worth mentioning :) |
| 21:26.00 | Shadowed | Too bad you can't access Addon file info |
| 21:26.06 | Shadowed | I would write an addon score addon in a second |
| 21:26.18 | Ackis | how would you score my stuff? :P |
| 21:26.28 | Shadowed | -50000000 |
| 21:26.30 | kd3 | wasn't that some kind of april fool's joke this year? |
| 21:26.53 | Ackis | :( |
| 21:30.08 | Ackis | cog|work: when are you going to compare me to a Nazi? :P |
| 21:30.28 | cog|work | right now... |
| 21:30.30 | cog|work | zomg ur hitler |
| 21:30.38 | Ackis | *gasp* :P |
| 21:30.51 | Ackis | You need to be slapped after that last argument :P |
| 21:31.02 | cog|work | NO U! |
| 21:31.11 | Ackis | UR MOM |
| 21:31.18 | cog|work | "it's cold therefore global warming is a lie" ... i thought you were joking the first time you implied that... |
| 21:31.24 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 21:31.25 | |Jelly| | he makes a compelling argument |
| 21:31.30 | Ackis | I have been cog|work :P |
| 21:31.39 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhqYBKZRg5I <-if this is not good then i hate you |
| 21:31.39 | cog|work | :P |
| 21:32.59 | cog|work | http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18956-just-what-we-need-sarcasm-software.html they need to make this into a browser plugin -_- |
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| 21:33.50 | Xethron | Good day |
| 21:33.55 | Xethron | I just got wow |
| 21:34.06 | Xethron | First time playing it. :P |
| 21:34.44 | Xethron | I was wondering if anyone here know of a group for users who run WoW on Wine... |
| 21:34.55 | Xethron | Having some small glitches |
| 21:35.03 | Dagmar | Xethron: You're um... looking at it |
| 21:35.09 | Dagmar | More or less |
| 21:35.12 | MoonWitch | well - toss it out here |
| 21:36.21 | Xethron | hehe. Just wanted to make sure :P |
| 21:36.44 | Dagmar | One of the regulars in here is responsible for the WoWWiki page about running WoW under Wine |
| 21:36.49 | Xethron | Well some items (the picture of them in my bag) shows really messed up |
| 21:37.04 | Xethron | Distorted of some kind |
| 21:37.19 | Dagmar | Did you look at the WowWiki page on it? There's a few things to twiddle to eliminate graphical corruption |
| 21:38.13 | Xethron | WOW That was close! Almost died! :P |
| 21:38.58 | Xethron | Umm... I just looked at the setup page |
| 21:39.16 | Xethron | How to install wine and configure the fonts and all |
| 21:40.56 | Dagmar | What type of video card do you have in there? |
| 21:42.37 | Arrowmaster | you dont really need to do any setup |
| 21:42.43 | Dagmar | http://www.wowwiki.com/Wine_troubleshooting#UI_corruption |
| 21:43.14 | Arrowmaster | really the only thing you need to do is either launch the game with -opengl or edit the config.wtf to make the game use OpenGL |
| 21:43.35 | Dashkal | meh, sadly that page doesn't address my two issues. I get an odd visual glitch (geometry in teh fasr distance sometiems spazes, looking like an explosion of polygons) and I get ~5 second lagouts every couple minutes |
| 21:44.10 | Xethron | Thanks Dagmar |
| 21:44.26 | Dagmar | Dashkal: Polygon corruption is generally a driver issue |
| 21:44.40 | Dagmar | ...or the dreaded _failing hardware_ |
| 21:45.30 | Dashkal | Only happened in wow under wine. Drivers perhaps. I havne't seen it in awhile. |
| 21:46.01 | Dashkal | It's the lag issue that really gets on my nerves. I used to blame my wireless, but it happens only in wow/wine. TF2 gives me no issues. |
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| 21:46.28 | Xethron | TF2? |
| 21:47.09 | Dashkal | team fortress 2. Though I play that under windows. Ergo: not my wireless. |
| 21:48.01 | Xethron | aah ok |
| 21:48.08 | Xethron | Yea mine is really slow too |
| 21:48.11 | Xethron | Not sure what to do |
| 21:48.32 | Dagmar | Stop using CentOS? |
| 21:48.44 | Xethron | O and the other problem I have is my sound... It makes these funkey noises in between |
| 21:49.52 | Xethron | almost like a scratched audio CD |
| 21:49.57 | Xethron | ka ka ka ka ka... |
| 21:52.00 | Arrowmaster | what audio system are you using? |
| 21:52.44 | Xethron | ALSA |
| 21:54.44 | Xethron | lol |
| 21:55.00 | Xethron | I changed the volume and now everything stopped working :P |
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| 22:10.18 | DJJeff | http://gearscoreaddon.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=22 |
| 22:10.22 | DJJeff | sigh |
| 22:11.09 | DJJeff | "i susspect it came with a keylogger" |
| 22:11.17 | DJJeff | is this even possible? |
| 22:11.20 | Dagmar | No. |
| 22:11.37 | Shadowed | Well it's possible if he downloaded it from the gearscore site |
| 22:11.38 | Dagmar | Not unless he downloaded it as some form of self-extractinv executable, it's simply impossible. |
| 22:11.38 | Shadowed | but not within hours |
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| 22:12.20 | Dagmar | Now, if he's using the same password for WoW as he does for Curse, their DB probably got snagged again and he was a dumbass for using his WoW password anywhere else |
| 22:12.23 | DJJeff | I download all my addons VIA Curse.com client ..... does curse check for executable files before putting them Live? |
| 22:12.48 | Dagmar | DJJef: Being that WoW won't execute executables while it's looking for lua, no, there is no point in it checking anything like that |
| 22:12.59 | DJJeff | ok |
| 22:13.10 | DJJeff | makes sense |
| 22:13.22 | Dagmar | My money is on "user was dumb and is using his WoW password on other sites" |
| 22:13.29 | DJJeff | I keep hearing people bitch.... "I got hacked cause of curse client" |
| 22:13.40 | tekkub | I use my wow password everywhere |
| 22:13.47 | tekkub | but then I have an auth token too |
| 22:13.52 | DJJeff | I change my wow password every week |
| 22:13.55 | DJJeff | once a week |
| 22:14.03 | tekkub | and I don't go creating acocunts on every site I touch |
| 22:14.46 | Dagmar | I know a guy locally who is versed in how not to treat passwords (because he hangs out with us hackers) who got his account nabbed last year about four hours after registering for curse (and like a moron using his same WoW password and email to do it) |
| 22:15.28 | Dagmar | From all the jibber-jabber I think it's probably safe to say someone at the colo is sniffing or something, but if people don't use unique passwords there's little point in worrying about it |
| 22:15.36 | Xethron | Dagmar, Thank you SO much! |
| 22:15.42 | Xethron | My items show perfectly now |
| 22:15.56 | Dagmar | Xethron: Yer welcome |
| 22:16.17 | Xethron | Sound still seems to be buggy but I think its better |
| 22:16.25 | Dagmar | I'm with the Gendou kid. Buy an auth token. |
| 22:16.36 | Dagmar | $7 is a small price to pay for being a dumbass |
| 22:17.51 | Dagmar | Buy the hard token, bend as many rules about how you treat your password as you like. |
| 22:18.09 | Dagmar | ...as long as you dont' like, paste it on your Facebook page or something, you're probably good. |
| 22:18.25 | Xethron | My game is really laggy thou... I mean it was fine when I started... But now its unplayable |
| 22:18.30 | Iriel | You dont even have to BUY an auth token if you have a smartphone |
| 22:18.53 | Dagmar | Iriel: I begin to think they need to do someting about that |
| 22:19.15 | Dagmar | Charge people a nickel or something--just so there's an audit trail |
| 22:19.37 | Dagmar | ...since I keep hearing the same sordid tale about account thefts now... "Someone stole my account and put an authenticator on it" |
| 22:19.48 | foxlit | Won't really help |
| 22:20.08 | Iriel | I'm not sure I can see why any sort of weak audit trail would help |
| 22:20.27 | Dagmar | It would at least add a few steps to slow 'em down maybe |
| 22:20.36 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: curse does check for executables, there is an entire list of blocked file extensions |
| 22:20.56 | DJJeff | ok |
| 22:21.02 | foxlit | Part of the reason why I cba to upload executables to curse |
| 22:21.10 | Xethron | Dagmar, lol, new problem |
| 22:21.17 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Yeah but that's beside hte point that merely downloading something won't execute it (unless you're an IE user) |
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| 22:21.32 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: right, IE is so bad |
| 22:21.37 | DJJeff | Firefox > IE |
| 22:21.54 | DJJeff | windows should start shipping with FF |
| 22:21.54 | Xethron | All the icons show now that didn't show earlier... But the copper icon which showed earlier, is now broken... |
| 22:22.27 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: THat's going to _remain_ my stance on that matter until they suck it up and admit their "activeX kill bits" was a dumb as f**k idea. |
| 22:22.53 | Arrowmaster | i swear even with IE8 if i dont block all ActiveX from my router my dad manages to get his desktop infected with some fake antivirus scam |
| 22:23.18 | DJJeff | I dont even use antivirus......... |
| 22:23.21 | Xethron | Dagmar, just compleated a quest and all the items I could choose where also broken :/ |
| 22:23.22 | olafski | that's not so hard with firefox either |
| 22:23.24 | MoonWitch | ArrowMaster -- malwarebytes in safe mode fixes 90% of those |
| 22:23.27 | Xethron | Guess it didn't fix it |
| 22:23.29 | DJJeff | I watch TCP ports open and close |
| 22:23.36 | Arrowmaster | the only problem is that if i block activex on the router then windows update doesnt work |
| 22:23.43 | DJJeff | and use sysinternals process explorer |
| 22:23.45 | Dagmar | Xethron: So change that number again, and if that doesn't work it's time to look into what's not quite right with your video driver |
| 22:23.58 | Nechckn | Arrowmaster tell him to quit visiting those "See <random_celeb> naked!" sites. |
| 22:24.08 | DJJeff | ^^^^^^^^ |
| 22:24.13 | MoonWitch | nite nite folks |
| 22:24.13 | olafski | yeah why would you want to see a random celeb naked |
| 22:24.14 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Well, if you can unblock it for a given netmask you can maybe fix that |
| 22:24.17 | olafski | most of them aren't pretty anyway |
| 22:24.17 | Arrowmaster | MoonWitch: Windows Defender XP Pro was a total bitch to remove, well not really but it was a total bitch to fix the damage it caused |
| 22:24.37 | Dagmar | Pffrt are you sure you actually got it all out? |
| 22:24.40 | MoonWitch | Arrowmaster: I know -- I do that shit for a living sadly |
| 22:24.41 | DJJeff | windows defender does more damagae then it fixes |
| 22:24.50 | Dagmar | The "Antivirus 2010" people are fucking nasty folks |
| 22:24.56 | Arrowmaster | DJJeff: wrong windows defender |
| 22:25.08 | MoonWitch | Djeff Windows Defender and Windows Defender XP Pro are VERY different |
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| 22:25.16 | Xethron | SET M2UseShaders "0" <<-- Should I change the 0? to what? |
| 22:25.17 | DJJeff | ah ok |
| 22:25.20 | DJJeff | ones a fake |
| 22:25.22 | DJJeff | ones not |
| 22:25.23 | MoonWitch | the first is a legit application, the second is fake |
| 22:25.26 | Dagmar | DJJeff: One of the more 'popular' malwares running around right now installs one of two phony antivirus programs |
| 22:25.38 | DJJeff | im sure they all do |
| 22:25.49 | DJJeff | I tend to "NOT" click on random popups |
| 22:25.53 | DJJeff | saying im infected |
| 22:25.57 | DJJeff | when im in fact not |
| 22:25.59 | Dagmar | You remove the damn thing and there's _actually_ a chance it'll just humor you if you didn't find the ring 0 hook |
| 22:25.59 | Nechckn | hahaha |
| 22:26.11 | Dagmar | It'll sit around and do nothing for 3-5 days and THEN reinstsall itself. |
| 22:26.14 | olafski | I had something install itself onto my pc last week from firefox |
| 22:26.18 | Nechckn | DJJeff I'm sure that is how the majority of current botnets were formed. |
| 22:26.29 | olafski | so I finally got noscript.. a black day in my browsing experience |
| 22:26.35 | Dagmar | Shit like that makes me want to take up a collection and go murder a few people in Russian and Romania |
| 22:26.37 | Arrowmaster | the fucking thing managed to change the file type registry settings so it would run when you tried to run an exe, but the account is locked down and i couldnt change the registry so i had to resort to editting the user specific registry as another user while the first one was still logged in |
| 22:27.07 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: That right there is why I love TeaTimer and Comodo so much |
| 22:27.30 | Arrowmaster | i cant get teatimer to work on that account |
| 22:27.33 | Dagmar | olafski: Lemme guess... an Adobe product vulnerability exploited... |
| 22:27.39 | olafski | yeah I think it was dagmar |
| 22:27.50 | olafski | no clue which one.. I had firefox set to not open pdfs |
| 22:27.58 | MoonWitch | this talk is making me suicidal |
| 22:27.59 | Nechckn | teatimer/sbs&d is very nice along with avast. Sexy free goodness. |
| 22:28.07 | MoonWitch | /wrists |
| 22:28.12 | Dagmar | I'm still getting hits about 2-3 nights a week on the dinky script I use to randomly surf pages and look for anomalous crap |
| 22:28.39 | Dagmar | I'm not even looking _hard_... Just looking for flash and PDF coming up in ways they should not (PDF inline or as an image, for example) |
| 22:29.15 | olafski | yeah pretty sure it was a pdf, it opened a "save to" dialog, which I cancelled |
| 22:29.19 | olafski | and then the shit started |
| 22:29.26 | olafski | I think I got rid of it though, wasn't too bad |
| 22:29.42 | Dagmar | Yah so they probably fired a salvo of different attempts at you and you saw one that didn't quite make it |
| 22:29.44 | olafski | so there's a vulnerability in adobe stuff which manages to circumvent UAC =( |
| 22:29.58 | DJJeff | like how firefox shows.... reported web forgery..... WHY THE FUCK DOESNT IE DO THIS |
| 22:30.03 | DJJeff | damn you microsoft |
| 22:30.09 | Arrowmaster | there is a vulnerability in UAC that manages to circumvent UAC |
| 22:30.14 | Dagmar | heh |
| 22:30.20 | Arrowmaster | they put it there by design |
| 22:31.17 | cralor | what's the easiest way to achieve "padding" functionality? (increase the distance between two frame elements) |
| 22:31.42 | Nechckn | DJJeff the one filter thingy does that in ie8, iirc |
| 22:32.01 | olafski | ie8 has some phishing detection |
| 22:32.04 | olafski | I think |
| 22:32.04 | Nechckn | looking.. ah, smart screen |
| 22:32.56 | DJJeff | cause like... all the SCAM EMAILS from "blizzard" when you click on the link firefox tells me its a reported forgery |
| 22:33.00 | DJJeff | IE doesnt |
| 22:33.14 | Dagmar | It would help if you didn't go 'round clicking on links in freaking emails |
| 22:33.34 | DJJeff | probley |
| 22:33.52 | Nechckn | that is sort of asking for trouble, unless you are on a vm that you sandbox, et cetera |
| 22:34.09 | MoonWitch | heck I dont even trust that enough lol |
| 22:34.17 | Dagmar | I'm very, very clear with every company that thinks they're going to send me HTML emails |
| 22:34.22 | olafski | use a separate PC that isn't connected to the internet, moonwitch |
| 22:34.22 | Dagmar | The answer is "No." |
| 22:34.46 | MoonWitch | unix machine, sandbox with VMware in it and in that vmware DeepFreeze |
| 22:34.58 | MoonWitch | and that machine isn t on my network |
| 22:35.04 | Dagmar | Moonwitch is on the right track there |
| 22:35.16 | MoonWitch | that's only to collect samples though |
| 22:35.18 | olafski | ignorance is so much bliss :D |
| 22:35.28 | olafski | I love reading about this paranoia though |
| 22:35.33 | Dagmar | If you're going to be sloppy about what you click on, a VM you can reinstantate every time you get it infected is damn handy, and pretty easy to set up with VMware |
| 22:35.40 | Dagmar | ...or even VirtualBox |
| 22:35.41 | Nechckn | yepper- no reason to mess with anything suspicious unless you have a good setup like that. |
| 22:36.04 | MoonWitch | paranoia? if you know how many infections i see a day ... :( |
| 22:36.13 | olafski | imagine how many I don't see :) |
| 22:36.15 | cralor | anyone got some padding tips? :D |
| 22:36.21 | MoonWitch | my topper was a client with 900+ |
| 22:36.23 | olafski | and I don't lose a second of sleep over it ;) |
| 22:36.27 | MoonWitch | I just told her to reformat |
| 22:36.47 | Dagmar | Make yerself a little 10Gb disk image, tell VirtualBox to use it as a disk, install Windows. Exit VirtualBox, copy the image, mark your copy read only, start using the VirtualBox copy of Windows and browse whatever the hell you like. |
| 22:37.02 | Dagmar | If something goes wrong, you just start with a fresh copy of that virtual disk |
| 22:37.05 | MoonWitch | her systray was as wide as her taskbar :P |
| 22:37.19 | MoonWitch | well there's still the link between host and vm |
| 22:37.19 | Dagmar | I bet she can go have lunch while waiting to login |
| 22:37.28 | Nechckn | hahah that is the scary types, MoonWitch |
| 22:37.33 | MoonWitch | Dagmar, it took her pc about 30 min to boot up |
| 22:37.35 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: or just use snapshots in virtual box |
| 22:38.15 | Dagmar | I'd use snapshots if I cared about preserving more than just the initial image |
| 22:38.46 | Dagmar | This malicious behaviour will not stop until we have internet hit squads to go and burn down offices and kill people who do this |
| 22:38.58 | MoonWitch | Im all for that |
| 22:39.18 | MoonWitch | saddest part is -- those ppl make a hell of a lot more than we do |
| 22:39.22 | Arrowmaster | well with snapshots it uses a differencing disk type so it doesnt use up twice the space like making a copy of the original state does |
| 22:39.32 | Dagmar | This is why I would enjoy greatly opening some spammers head up with an axe |
| 22:39.38 | olafski | moonwitch: because they don't spend their time caring about such things ;) |
| 22:40.01 | MoonWitch | they spend their time fighting our efforts to get rid of them |
| 22:40.21 | olafski | wait.. do you mean the people who make these programs or the people who inadvertently install all of it? |
| 22:40.37 | Dagmar | We're permanently on the losing side of that because users seems to think they have a right to remain f**king morons by virture of they paid for the computer |
| 22:40.58 | olafski | and who are you to say they don't? :P |
| 22:41.10 | MoonWitch | olafski but i am glad to see that you dont care that your casual thoughts about virus infections dont keep you up at night, you do realize that chances are that your pc *is* infected, right? |
| 22:41.20 | Dagmar | When you buy a car, no one says you're in the right when it stops working in a few days because the gas tank is empty. |
| 22:41.33 | olafski | moonwitch: I think that chance exists.. as long as I don't notice it I will not care though |
| 22:41.42 | Dagmar | ...but that's about where things stops when it comes to what people feel responsible for about hteir PC |
| 22:41.47 | olafski | a car is not a PC |
| 22:41.54 | olafski | well.. a PC is not a car ;) |
| 22:41.57 | Dagmar | That's right... A car is not a PC. |
| 22:42.03 | MoonWitch | how about the possibility of your pc infecting other pcs, and ruining other ppls work? |
| 22:42.18 | olafski | moonwitch: is that not their own fault for not protecting their PC? |
| 22:42.22 | Dagmar | I can get in a car and through my careless behaviour cause hundreds of thousands of dollars in damage to other innovent people in a matter of minutes. |
| 22:42.26 | Dagmar | I can't do that with a PC... |
| 22:42.28 | Dagmar | Oh wait... |
| 22:42.45 | MoonWitch | trojan stealing bank info .. |
| 22:42.47 | olafski | dagmar: if I buy a PC I'm pretty sure it's my right to do with it what I want (assuming I don't break any laws while doing that) |
| 22:43.01 | MoonWitch | enough said about the monetary losses when infected |
| 22:43.01 | Dagmar | olafski: Yet the same "right" doesn't exist with a car |
| 22:43.07 | olafski | dagmar: ..and? |
| 22:43.31 | Dagmar | olafski: Being that billions of dollars go straight into the pockets of criminals annually over this? WHY |
| 22:43.34 | Arrowmaster | olafski: except you are sorta breaking laws if your pc gets infected and used as a zombie |
| 22:43.41 | Dagmar | We made drunk driving ILLEGAL. |
| 22:43.55 | olafski | dagmar: actually I think if you buy a car you can do with it what you want too as long as you don't break the law ;0 |
| 22:43.57 | Dagmar | We should make running Windows on the internet without a firewall and antivirus at *least* a misdemeanor |
| 22:44.10 | Arrowmaster | olafski: your pc is then doing things that if you were to do yourself would be felonies in the US |
| 22:44.11 | MoonWitch | should be a felony |
| 22:44.17 | Dagmar | olafski: You can't drive drunk, not even on your own property |
| 22:44.31 | olafski | dagmar: so that breaks a law.. my point stays |
| 22:44.49 | Dagmar | You can't legally run it if it won't pass emissions, even on your own property. |
| 22:45.09 | Dagmar | There are a LOT of things which you're not allowed to do with a car you wholly bought with your own money. |
| 22:45.17 | MoonWitch | point is : you dont notice that your pc is in a botnet (not always anyways), but you are in fact breaking the law that moment. |
| 22:45.19 | olafski | "as long as you don't break the law" |
| 22:45.24 | olafski | let me know if I have to repeat it again |
| 22:45.49 | Dagmar | Prove that an attack coming from your PC was not you. |
| 22:46.00 | olafski | must be friday night, I usually don't even bother discussing things with windows haters :P |
| 22:46.05 | Dagmar | "IT WAS TEH HAXORZ" doesn't generally work with judges. |
| 22:46.11 | MoonWitch | you can't prove it.. |
| 22:46.17 | olafski | (and with things I don't just mean PC things ;)) |
| 22:46.46 | Dagmar | olafski: So don't be suprised the next time a critical flaw in Windows is discovered and we start purging you guys from the internet like we did in the 90's |
| 22:46.52 | MoonWitch | Olafski, thank you for generalizing everyone. It isnt because we care about computer safety that we hate Windows. |
| 22:47.03 | Dagmar | I don't hate Windows. |
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| 22:47.08 | Dagmar | I hate Windows users. |
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| 22:47.16 | olafski | moonwitch: but you do hate windows apparently :) |
| 22:47.19 | Dagmar | I merely _dislike_ Windows. |
| 22:47.29 | MoonWitch | olafski: when/where did I say that? |
| 22:47.36 | olafski | you just did ;) |
| 22:47.50 | olafski | "it isn't because we care about computer safety that we hate windows" seems to imply that you hate windows for some other reason |
| 22:48.15 | olafski | and by speaking as "we" you're the one generalizing |
| 22:48.19 | MoonWitch | No, I said that *I* care about computer safety, and that that fact does NOT equal hating windows ;) |
| 22:48.26 | MoonWitch | and we implies me and dagmar |
| 22:48.45 | MoonWitch | as in 2 people who are in agreement on a statement about computer safety |
| 22:49.10 | olafski | I care about computer safety.. but it better not interfere with my usage of the computer |
| 22:49.16 | olafski | I found out last week that that isn't possible though |
| 22:49.31 | olafski | this is what annoys me.. I am annoyed by noscript every day now |
| 22:49.39 | Dagmar | That's like saying you want to drive safe, as long as you're still allowed to drink as much as you want. |
| 22:50.08 | olafski | well, using an antivirus or a firewall doesn't interfere with my PC usage |
| 22:50.11 | MoonWitch | how about this : use IE8, use no protection on the internet, click on everything you see flashing, especially if it mentions your blizzard account information :) |
| 22:50.12 | olafski | noscript does =( |
| 22:50.24 | NightHawkTheSane | olafski: no, it still does, but in ways you're willing to tolerate |
| 22:50.27 | Dagmar | olafski: If you stop going to those shifty porn sites your chances of infection literally drop by 80%. |
| 22:50.51 | MoonWitch | btw - I watch porn, but in a sandboxed environment :) |
| 22:51.05 | olafski | are avi's possible infectees too now? :( |
| 22:51.09 | MoonWitch | yes |
| 22:51.12 | olafski | blah |
| 22:51.14 | olafski | so be it :P |
| 22:51.21 | Dagmar | They have been for years. They're just not commonly used as vectors |
| 22:51.31 | Dagmar | Asx has potential for REAL fun |
| 22:51.40 | MoonWitch | oh god yes |
| 22:51.55 | Dagmar | You used to be able to embed a URL invocation at any point in a file you wanted, so that while the user was watching the video, IE would launch at various points. |
| 22:51.58 | Arrowmaster | because media files (except for crap like asx) have to attack specific players and versions |
| 22:52.15 | olafski | I use a "spyware detector" that I would think is spyware itself if it wouldn't be in the google free software package |
| 22:52.25 | olafski | and it doesn't even seem to be free =( |
| 22:52.30 | Dagmar | As a test case and demonstration, I once took a 4Mb porn video off Usenet, re-encoded it to ASX and embedded a site's URL in it four times, then re-uploaded it to USENET. |
| 22:52.43 | Dagmar | You just don't want to know how many times that little ISP got hit in the next 24 hours. |
| 22:52.48 | MoonWitch | LOLOLOL |
| 22:52.52 | olafski | :) |
| 22:52.53 | MoonWitch | awesome |
| 22:53.12 | Dagmar | So basically, in the next 24 hours, about 14,000 people fapped to that |
| 22:53.18 | MoonWitch | wow |
| 22:53.20 | Dagmar | This was in 97. |
| 22:53.25 | MoonWitch | porn in popular |
| 22:53.28 | MoonWitch | is* |
| 22:53.34 | Dagmar | Porn is 3/4 of all internet traffic. |
| 22:53.45 | Dagmar | Sometimes more depending on the time of day and what's going on in the world. |
| 22:53.49 | olafski | we clearly need better connections so it can become 90% ;) |
| 22:53.52 | MoonWitch | well not 3/4 but the biggest chunk yes |
| 22:54.06 | MoonWitch | then I am quitting the internetz |
| 22:54.11 | Dagmar | It varies between 2/3 and 3/4. |
| 22:54.16 | Dagmar | Sniff a TOR node sometime. |
| 22:54.17 | olafski | the biggest porn share on the network here has like 6TB of it =( |
| 22:54.38 | olafski | does sniffing a TOR node only show TOR traffic or all interwebs traffic? |
| 22:54.47 | Dagmar | People use TOR not only to get aorund restrictive gov'ts, but to get porn around restrictive gov'ts. |
| 22:55.02 | Dagmar | olafski: You only need to watch your unencrypted exit traffic |
| 22:55.25 | olafski | hrm sounds too complicated.. I'll take your word on the numbers, doesn't sound too surprising |
| 22:57.55 | olafski | anywho, off to bed.. and moonwitch - I don't think I'm infected.. not with anything that infects others, or my ISP would have warned me and cut me off ;) |
| 22:58.17 | MoonWitch | depends on the isp ;) |
| 22:58.24 | olafski | yes, and mine does that :P |
| 22:58.24 | Arrowmaster | many dont |
| 22:58.35 | olafski | I live on a university campus |
| 22:58.55 | olafski | if you break the rules you're disconnected within a day usually, sometimes quicker |
| 22:58.57 | MoonWitch | yes, because universities have awesome security *sob* |
| 22:59.07 | olafski | (though for some rules they only give a warning, like breaching the traffic limits) |
| 22:59.25 | olafski | they were very quick to jump on that blaster thing :) |
| 22:59.57 | Arrowmaster | those arent the ones to be concerned about though, just high profile |
| 23:00.11 | Arrowmaster | its the ones that run your system into a zombie that are most common |
| 23:00.14 | olafski | aye.. well we have a name to uphold, I guess they want it to be safe |
| 23:00.22 | olafski | 80% of europe's traffic used to be through this campus ;) |
| 23:00.43 | olafski | probably not anymore but they still claim to be a center of innovation and such, it's supposed to attract investors |
| 23:01.40 | olafski | just glad I'm heading out into the real world soon.. I've had it with research and that lark |
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| 23:05.43 | NightHawkTheSane | the real world isn't much better |
| 23:07.15 | Fisker | i am happy NightHawkTheSane |
| 23:07.28 | NightHawkTheSane | that's because you're mildly retarded :) |
| 23:08.25 | Fisker | only if you're willing to argue that anyone being happy are mildly retarded |
| 23:09.16 | NightHawkTheSane | Fisker: ... actually, in this world, I would say that's probably true, yes. |
| 23:09.21 | Fisker | :O |
| 23:09.23 | NightHawkTheSane | but i'm a bitter and jaded old man. |
| 23:09.24 | Fisker | i never asked for any of this NightHawkTheSane |
| 23:14.43 | *** join/#wowuidev durcyn (~durcyn@WoWUIDev/Durcyn) |
| 23:16.55 | Dagmar | God they keep mentioning "tarballs" on CNN and triggering my geek filter |
| 23:19.28 | Fisker | yummy tarballs |
| 23:28.09 | Fisker | shit we're all going to die |
| 23:28.29 | Fisker | Audi is testing a Wifi enabled car that will communicate with traffic lights |
| 23:28.40 | Fisker | if the traffic light is red it will automatically break |
| 23:28.47 | Fisker | that's just insanely stupid |
| 23:29.45 | Antiarc | http://i.imgur.com/GwvXR.jpg |
| 23:29.50 | Antiarc | Health bar and BG modules! |
| 23:30.05 | Dagmar | FIsker: No it's not. |
| 23:30.06 | Fisker | pretty sweet |
| 23:30.12 | Fisker | now you just need to target people on it! |
| 23:30.13 | Fisker | :P |
| 23:30.17 | Xethron | Night all! |
| 23:30.20 | Fisker | (I know you can't but still) |
| 23:30.23 | Fisker | yes it is Dagmar |
| 23:30.29 | cog|away | bai Fisker |
| 23:30.33 | Fisker | bai cog|away |
| 23:30.38 | Dagmar | No, it's not. If the light is red you're SUPPOSED to stop. |
| 23:30.50 | Xethron | see ya all tomorrow |
| 23:31.00 | Dagmar | If the car shows more deference for the continued existance of others than you do, it's not "stupid", you're just an asshole. |
| 23:31.02 | Fisker | yes Dagmar |
| 23:31.04 | Fisker | supposed to stop |
| 23:31.10 | Fisker | So lets say you're supposed to stop |
| 23:31.21 | Fisker | Behind you is a lorry 50 meters away driving 60MPH |
| 23:31.23 | |Jelly| | Will it allow right hand turns on red? |
| 23:31.29 | Fisker | What do you do? |
| 23:31.32 | Dagmar | I'm sure entitled assholes like yourself will continue to have no problems flooring it. |
| 23:32.09 | Dagmar | Fisker: You get your happy ass rear-ended because none of you ever pay that much attention to your surroundings in the first place. |
| 23:32.24 | Fisker | no |
| 23:32.25 | Fisker | i die |
| 23:32.26 | Dagmar | Understand that a *cop* pulled me over for something like that just last week |
| 23:32.45 | Fisker | Taking away your control like that is insanely stupid |
| 23:32.52 | Dagmar | He wanted to know why I squeaked through the red light when he was right behind me and he thought I could stop |
| 23:32.57 | Fisker | What if emergency services needed to get through? |
| 23:33.06 | Dagmar | I'm acutally pretty sure I could have stopped. I wasn't so sure *he* would have been able to stop in that distance tho. |
| 23:33.15 | Fisker | I wouldn't be able to start the motor and drive safely to the curb |
| 23:33.45 | Fisker | There are times where you'll want to break the law in order to keep the roads more safe |
| 23:33.48 | Dagmar | Fisker: Of course, but you being too stupid to operate your motor vehicle is something to take up with your mother and father. |
| 23:33.57 | NightHawkTheSane | if you're close enough to a /red/ light, that any auto-brake would engage, you're too close to move to the curb anyway |
| 23:34.04 | Dagmar | Don't blame the car because you're genertically incompetent. |
| 23:34.07 | NightHawkTheSane | so you slow down, and sit your ass there until it passes |
| 23:34.12 | Fisker | lol |
| 23:34.18 | Fisker | You're grossly ignorant |
| 23:34.28 | Fisker | Or seriously bad trolls |
| 23:34.33 | Dagmar | No, I just happen to know way more about this little feature in the car than you do, dumbass. |
| 23:34.42 | Fisker | oh ok |
| 23:34.44 | Fisker | enlighten me then |
| 23:34.50 | Fisker | Instead of being a smartass |
| 23:35.11 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm just someone who's driven before, and been in those situations. *shrug* |
| 23:35.15 | Dagmar | You might as well be complaining about cruise-control forcing drivers to careen wildly down the highway at 60mph until they run out of gas or die in a fiery crash. |
| 23:35.30 | Fisker | NightHawkTheSane such system doesn't exist yet to my knowledge so i doubt you've been through it before |
| 23:35.42 | Fisker | Cruise control is optional |
| 23:35.50 | NightHawkTheSane | I meant emergency vehicles moving through a stoplight |
| 23:35.51 | Dagmar | So is the auto-braking. |
| 23:35.52 | Fisker | So let me hear your expert inside knowledge |
| 23:36.04 | Dagmar | It also self-disengages if you take your lead foot off the damn gas pedal long enough to tap the brake. |
| 23:36.09 | NightHawkTheSane | you know, the one thing i commented on. |
| 23:36.24 | Dagmar | ...and I don't even KNOW where you got the idea it disables the engine while the light is red. |
| 23:37.35 | Fisker | i didn't say it did, but obviously it could keep the breaks on until nessecary |
| 23:37.41 | Dagmar | Bluetooth and other various forms of local area networking are becoming more and more prevalent in cars |
| 23:37.54 | Fisker | However the movie clearly shows it breaking hard when approaching the red light |
| 23:38.00 | Dagmar | In ten years or less, such a thing WILL be in every car that rolls off the line. |
| 23:38.02 | Fisker | obviously not just a "light break to encourage you to break yourself" |
| 23:38.06 | Dagmar | I intend to be ready to fuck shit up by then |
| 23:38.27 | Legorol | evening |
| 23:38.48 | Legorol | I'm planning to buy a new phone, a smart one. Never had one of those. It'll either be an iPhone, or an Android one. Which one is recommended? |
| 23:38.50 | |Jelly| | Hello |
| 23:38.52 | Legorol | and if Android, then which one? |
| 23:38.53 | Fisker | Android |
| 23:38.57 | Dagmar | Leogrol: Probably Android |
| 23:39.04 | Dagmar | "any" |
| 23:39.13 | Legorol | what makes you prefer Android over iPhone, apart from the geek-factor |
| 23:39.23 | Fisker | Nexus One, Desire or 4G Evo is basically the top of the line |
| 23:39.27 | Dagmar | Your biggest problem is really going to be what specific angle you take it up the ass from your cell phone provider over and for how long you take it. |
| 23:39.29 | Legorol | for example, Blizz hasn't announced remote AH for Android yet, only iPhone |
| 23:39.43 | Fisker | well they made the mobile authenticator |
| 23:39.46 | Fisker | for the android |
| 23:39.48 | Legorol | yah |
| 23:39.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Legorol: what provider are you on currently? |
| 23:39.53 | Legorol | Dagmar: you mean with iPhone |
| 23:40.01 | Legorol | NightHawkTheSane: O2 |
| 23:40.08 | Dagmar | Both Sprint and AT&T have laid out new plans for fucking their customers in various new and interesting ways this month |
| 23:40.09 | Legorol | which does sell iPhones |
| 23:40.13 | Legorol | but i can also just get an unlocked one |
| 23:40.23 | Legorol | Dagmar: i'm not in the US, so i'm fine there :) |
| 23:40.25 | Dagmar | AT&T with the "blink ONCE and your unlimited data plan goes away FOREVER" gig |
| 23:40.47 | Fisker | Anyway my reason for wanting Android over iPhone: 1. Hardware doesn't suck 2. (While model dependant) Design doesn't suck 3. Free app market 4. Flash (lol) |
| 23:40.50 | Legorol | also, Dagmar, isn't that an issue with your mobile plan/contract, as opposed to the phone itself? |
| 23:40.55 | NightHawkTheSane | Legorol: no idea about european providers, so uh.. assuming you have the option of either on O2, and are sticking with them, it's almost entirely personal preference. |
| 23:41.00 | Dagmar | Sprint with the "Not only are we going to charge you $30 more a month just for having a smartphone, if you have a top-of-the-line smartphone we'll be adding another $10 on top of that" |
| 23:41.15 | Fisker | also what the fuck is up with US network providers deciding whether or not you're allowed to tether? |
| 23:41.17 | Fisker | that's fucked up |
| 23:41.21 | NightHawkTheSane | if it involves changing providers, then really, as Dagmar is indicating, the provider that sucks less is probably better to go with. |
| 23:41.24 | Legorol | i'm confused, Dagmar |
| 23:41.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Fisker: yes it is. |
| 23:41.36 | Legorol | why or how does your provider know you even have a smartphone? |
| 23:41.43 | Legorol | what if you just bought an unlocked one and never tell them? |
| 23:41.52 | Dagmar | Legorol: In case you've not noticed, the level to which these companies are in bed with each other now means ther'es a good chance you're not going to be able to actually buy a phone without a cell phone company's approval and "discont" |
| 23:42.10 | Legorol | Dagmar: uh, that's why i said unlocked one if needed |
| 23:42.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: he's not in the US, so he's not quite so hamstrung |
| 23:42.17 | Dagmar | Leogorol: Well, in the case of the damn Pre, they apparently got Palm to make the phone rat you out |
| 23:42.22 | Legorol | can you not buy unlocked phones in the US? |
| 23:42.31 | Dagmar | You can, but it's not going to do you much good |
| 23:42.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Legorol: it's a little more obnoxious, because the providers are very annoying about it |
| 23:42.46 | Legorol | heck, in the UK, you can buy a locked phone from your provider, and they are obliged to unlock it if you ask |
| 23:42.52 | Legorol | sometimes there's a small fee, but most of the time there isn't |
| 23:42.57 | Dagmar | I had some *ugly* words with a Sprint rep last month when they noticed I had a PDA phone but no data plan |
| 23:43.02 | Legorol | like on my provider, O2, i can buy an iPhone and they will unlock for free |
| 23:43.04 | Dagmar | ...as they now "require" a data plan to work with the phone. |
| 23:43.11 | Legorol | of course i'll be stuck in a contract with them, but that'sa different matter |
| 23:43.22 | Dagmar | Legorol: yeah in the UK they're required by law to give you a PUK code |
| 23:43.30 | Legorol | yah |
| 23:43.41 | Legorol | anyway, we digressed towards providers |
| 23:43.42 | Arrowmaster | Fisker: if you think thats fucked up i guess you dont realize that in the US they charge you to RECEIVE a text message |
| 23:43.45 | Legorol | let's focus purely on devices |
| 23:43.49 | NightHawkTheSane | Legorol: bottom line, if you're sticking with O2: Do some poking in and research and decide for yourself, current gen phones are pretty comparable these days between android and iphoneos. if you want to go with the iphone, i might suggest waiting until wwdc is over. |
| 23:44.03 | Legorol | what is wwdc? |
| 23:44.12 | Dagmar | I pretty much had to tell the Sprint rep "If you *touch* my rate plan I will sue both Sprint, your store francise company, and you _personally_ over breach of contract" |
| 23:44.17 | NightHawkTheSane | WorldWide Developers Conference, it's a dev conference Apple puts on |
| 23:44.18 | Legorol | oh, and if you guys happen to know: do any android phones have in-built GPS capability? |
| 23:44.24 | Legorol | for me that's an important point in favour of iphone |
| 23:44.27 | NightHawkTheSane | if they're going to announce a new iphone soon, it'll likely be there. |
| 23:44.34 | Arrowmaster | Legorol: i thought they ALL did |
| 23:44.35 | Dagmar | Legorol: The newest one has more antennas than a goddamn cop car |
| 23:44.35 | Antiarc | All of them do, Legorol |
| 23:44.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Legorol: most of them do, yes |
| 23:44.53 | Antiarc | I have a Nexus One, and I adore it. I'll be happy to answer any questions you have. |
| 23:44.56 | Dagmar | FM radio, WiMax, WiFi etc |
| 23:45.36 | Dagmar | Some of htem have "AGPS" which is technically "assisted GPS" which really means "Doesn't actually have GPS in it" |
| 23:45.56 | Antiarc | AGPS is cell tower triangulation, no? |
| 23:46.09 | Dagmar | On a good day AGPS means "your phone will make a half-assed attempt to listen for a satellite, and then ask the cell towers to find it" |
| 23:46.14 | Legorol | are the HTC Smart and Desire Android phones? with GPS? |
| 23:46.21 | Dagmar | On a bad day it means your phone doesn't really do anything but ask the cell towers. |
| 23:46.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Legorol: desire is, yes. not familiar with the smart |
| 23:46.40 | Dagmar | The Palm 800W has "AGPS" of the first sort. |
| 23:47.01 | Legorol | ok, simplified question: |
| 23:47.10 | Legorol | do all HTC phones which do actually have Android come with proper GPS? |
| 23:47.16 | Legorol | if you don't know, i can research it :) quicker to ask here :D |
| 23:47.18 | Dagmar | How they can claim the *phone* has GPS when it actually has no hardware at all for that, I've no idea |
| 23:47.35 | Antiarc | Legorol: I'd be shocked if they didn't |
| 23:47.38 | NightHawkTheSane | Legorol: Any recent generation phone will, yes. |
| 23:47.43 | Legorol | cool |
| 23:47.48 | Legorol | moving on to software development: |
| 23:47.54 | Dagmar | HTC is one of the few vendors who still don't screw around with trying to give the customer the least amount of anything they an |
| 23:47.55 | NightHawkTheSane | I know the Desire does, i think that's just a re-branded incredible |
| 23:48.00 | Legorol | with an ordinary consumer phone, can i make my own apps and load them directly on the phone? |
| 23:48.05 | Legorol | or do i have to jump some hoops |
| 23:48.08 | Antiarc | The Desire is the Nexus One, basically |
| 23:48.10 | NightHawkTheSane | Legorol: yes |
| 23:48.16 | Dagmar | Both. :) |
| 23:48.17 | NightHawkTheSane | er, yes you can make your own apps |
| 23:48.26 | Arrowmaster | i think most of them have aGPS so its hard to tell exactly how good it is from just the specs, but since the maps is one of the major android features i assume they have real GPS radios in them |
| 23:48.30 | NightHawkTheSane | you'll have to jump through hoops, but the phone itself doesn't matter |
| 23:48.30 | Antiarc | Yup, you can make your own without any hoops |
| 23:48.30 | Dagmar | THey are minor hoops that require you be smarter than a mailbox. |
| 23:48.35 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ |
| 23:48.37 | Antiarc | Legorol: You pay $25 to get a key to sign your apps with if you want to put them in the market |
| 23:48.50 | Antiarc | That's one-time, not per year or anything |
| 23:48.52 | Legorol | i don't care about the market |
| 23:49.02 | Legorol | my point is, can i for my own use put it on my own phone without going through the market |
| 23:49.04 | Legorol | that's important |
| 23:49.10 | Antiarc | yes |
| 23:49.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Yes |
| 23:49.13 | Legorol | ok cool |
| 23:49.13 | Dagmar | Far as I know yeah |
| 23:49.16 | NightHawkTheSane | (for both iphone and anroid) |
| 23:49.19 | Antiarc | You can load apps directly without going through any gateway |
| 23:49.20 | Legorol | ok |
| 23:49.25 | Legorol | great :) |
| 23:49.31 | Dagmar | iPhone you have to um... do some naughty things first |
| 23:49.34 | NightHawkTheSane | nah |
| 23:49.37 | Antiarc | (you can't on the iphone unless you jailbreak the phone or have a developer license, which is $100/year + the developer contract) |
| 23:49.41 | Dashkal | iphone actually lets you load onto the phone? Yeah, thought you had to jailbreak it |
| 23:49.45 | Arrowmaster | so AT&T was only changing their iPhone and iPad plans right? |
| 23:49.45 | NightHawkTheSane | if you actually sign up as a developer, you can load whaetver you want |
| 23:49.50 | NightHawkTheSane | well, whateve ryou develop, that is |
| 23:50.03 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Yes, they're doing away with the unlimited data plans |
| 23:50.21 | Dagmar | I would not recommend getting the rinky-dink plan on a 3G iPad |
| 23:50.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Dashkal: Antiarc is correct you need to sign up for their dev program, but once you do that you can load your own apps without any real issue |
| 23:50.46 | Legorol | ok, let me get this straight: |
| 23:50.50 | Legorol | on the iphone i can't load my app? |
| 23:50.52 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: i was under the impression that data plans for all smartphones were being changed to those two |
| 23:50.57 | Legorol | i don't intend to jailbreak |
| 23:51.06 | Arrowmaster | i was thinking about getting a 4G iPhone when they come out and ebaying it and getting an android phone, possible the htc vision which is supposed to have a hardware keyboard |
| 23:51.07 | Dagmar | Legorol: Not without jailbreaking or registering as a dev and paying a fee |
| 23:51.09 | Antiarc | Not unless you pay the yearly developer fee, Legorol |
| 23:51.14 | Legorol | eek |
| 23:51.19 | Legorol | ok, 1 more point in Android's favour |
| 23:51.34 | Antiarc | iphone is very punishing to developers |
| 23:51.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Apple in general kind of is |
| 23:51.50 | Legorol | hmm |
| 23:51.54 | Dagmar | I half get the impression Google made Android and the Nexus one so they'd still have *one* hackable option for their own personal phones |
| 23:51.58 | NightHawkTheSane | the flip side is that they're great to consumers |
| 23:51.58 | Legorol | i really hope blizz will release the AH for android too |
| 23:52.14 | NightHawkTheSane | they probably will eventually |
| 23:52.19 | Legorol | i'm not so sure |
| 23:52.29 | NightHawkTheSane | They did release an android mobile authenticator, so they at least have someone there with the capability |
| 23:52.32 | Legorol | the authenticator, yes, they want it to be available on as many platforms as possible |
| 23:52.40 | Legorol | but the authenticator is very simple in comparison and easy to support |
| 23:52.45 | Legorol | it's available for a million phones |
| 23:52.46 | Dagmar | ...but they hate use Windows Mobile users |
| 23:52.48 | Legorol | the AH is a different issue |
| 23:52.56 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: everyone hats windows mobile users. |
| 23:53.03 | NightHawkTheSane | hates* |
| 23:53.11 | Slackwise | Android is poised to overtake the iPhone OS. And abstracting the code for AH interaction so that it's reuable across the iPhone and Android is easy. They just need a custom UI per. |
| 23:53.20 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ |
| 23:53.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Given that they already have someone, or some team capable of android dev, it seems silly to think they wouldn't extend that. even if it takes time for a port |
| 23:53.48 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: Being that Windows Mobile is the most steaming pile of shit I've ever seen on a phone, I can beliee it |
| 23:54.24 | Dagmar | I am still waiting to see whether or not that new HTC Android will incur bullshit fees from Sprint before I try to score one |
| 23:54.31 | Dagmar | I am still a bit pissed about the way they did the Pre |
| 23:54.37 | NightHawkTheSane | the evo4g? |
| 23:54.38 | Slackwise | NightHawkTheSane: Well the AH code can probably also be abstracted for J2ME usage as well. |
| 23:54.51 | Slackwise | Android is developed on (a custom) Java stack. |
| 23:54.58 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: Yeah. I don't want to use THEIR damn servers or network for anything but calls |
| 23:55.00 | Slackwise | But the base logic can be abstracted out. |
| 23:55.06 | Cairenn|afk | mikma: rofl |
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| 23:55.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: heh, i haven't read any amazing reviews of that.. |
| 23:56.05 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: Ther'es wifi everywhere I go. Sprint doesn't do a thing to help maintain those wifi connections, so I feel completely unmotivated to pay Sprint money for the priviledge of being allowed to use them |
| 23:56.12 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: The damn phone just came out today. Give it time |
| 23:56.42 | Legorol | which android phone had issues with its touchscreen being slow to reacts? |
| 23:56.51 | Legorol | i heard something but not sure what it was, or if i even heard it right |
| 23:56.58 | NightHawkTheSane | none that i'm aware? |
| 23:57.02 | Dagmar | Probably one of those funky taiwanese phones |
| 23:57.14 | Dagmar | Taiwan looooves Android |
| 23:57.53 | NightHawkTheSane | I'd heard that the nexus one's touch screen had some minor precision issues, but i dont know if that persists into the version HTC is selling in europe. |
| 23:58.42 | Antiarc | I've considered writing an AH app for Android |
| 23:58.50 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc: actually, you said you have a Nexus One, right? how is it? |
| 23:58.52 | Antiarc | It's easy enough, I've got all the groundwork already done in my AH scraper |
| 23:58.54 | NightHawkTheSane | i need to upgrade my g1. |
| 23:58.55 | Antiarc | I do, and I love it |
| 23:58.57 | Antiarc | It's fantastic. |
| 23:59.21 | Antiarc | I don't even have it rooted and I have no complaints |
| 23:59.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Unless a new phone comes around for t-mobile in the next monthish, i'll probably end up upgrading to it. |
| 23:59.50 | Arrowmaster | i really want a new phone but i get the feeling ill want a hardware keyboard |
