| 00:03.07 | foxlit | "Will Blizzard fund the 12 Korean proteams?" ... "Each team has to pay for their team house. They have a staff of a dozen people. Everyone needs to be fed, which in the past was not at all a trivial matter." |
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| 00:04.11 | foxlit | A++, will read again. |
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| 01:14.12 | sylvanaar | man I want a BlendTec blender |
| 01:14.20 | Thunder_Child | so get one |
| 01:14.48 | sylvanaar | http://www.amazon.com/Blendtec-TB-621-20-560-Watt-Total-Blender/dp/B000GIGZXM/ref=wl_it_dp_o?ie=UTF8&coliid=I3KTKWH30CYAOR&colid=4LJRP85PSUWT |
| 01:15.02 | sylvanaar | coughs |
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| 01:29.46 | gain | anyone here knowledgeable with power auras classic |
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| 01:31.12 | Kraps | YOU FACE NOT KRAPS ALONE! |
| 01:31.55 | Kraps | BUT HIS BOREDOM AS WELL! |
| 01:33.26 | Thunder_Child | and his poor grammar |
| 01:34.21 | Dagmar | Kraps: Try to predict how long it'll be before Israel turns that boatload of hippies loose with cell phone footage of the assault from last night |
| 01:35.09 | gain | :( |
| 01:35.13 | gain | had a powa question :( |
| 01:35.27 | Dagmar | Yeah, and generally you want to just ask the question |
| 01:35.32 | Kraps | i expect to see the commandos raping passengers |
| 01:36.13 | Dagmar | Well, I kinda doubt they did thta, but I suspect Israel might be trying to hedge their bets ahead of losing face once it's out that their little hit squad went in there like thugs |
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| 01:36.46 | Dagmar | ...either that or they're learning just how fucking hard it is to find a microsd card from a phone hidden on someone who doesn't want you to have it |
| 01:37.18 | Kraps | Israel has their own footage |
| 01:37.43 | Dagmar | Yes, from a helicopter waaay overhead. That'll show plenty of detail |
| 01:38.18 | Kraps | meh |
| 01:38.27 | Kraps | doesnt matter anyway |
| 01:38.28 | Thunder_Child | they could have just blown the thing up, a blockade is a blockade |
| 01:38.31 | Dagmar | Regular folks don't erupt into violence to a degree that requires you KILL NINE OF THEM to make them stop, without some serious provication |
| 01:38.41 | Dagmar | Thunder_Child: 'cept apparently they hadn't gotten that far yte |
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| 01:39.42 | Kraps | they're in a "damned if you do damned if you dont" situation anyway |
| 01:39.49 | Kraps | like always |
| 01:40.23 | Dagmar | Cripes. Guatemala makes their sinkholes BIG |
| 01:40.53 | Kraps | Dagmar: they're not "regular people" |
| 01:41.15 | Dagmar | http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/05/31/honduras.storm.emergency/index.html?hpt=C2 <-- this freaking *looks* 'shopped it's so dam nbig |
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| 01:41.36 | Kraps | all of them have an intense hatered of Israel to begin with |
| 01:41.54 | Thunder_Child | Dagmar: we are not sure that's a proper image to go with that post |
| 01:42.27 | Shirik | kraps |
| 01:42.30 | Shirik | that article is now 1RR |
| 01:43.37 | Dagmar | Only 1RR? I'd have thought it would at least rate a 3 and some stars |
| 01:43.44 | Dagmar | Maybe some highlighter |
| 01:43.47 | Shirik | .. |
| 01:43.56 | DWSR | Just bought an Xperia X10a from SE. |
| 01:43.59 | DWSR | HOLY SHIT @ PHONE. |
| 01:44.04 | DWSR | SHIT DOES EVERYTHING |
| 01:44.41 | DWSR | Anyone know a good Android IRC client?\ |
| 01:44.57 | Dagmar | Ask your PHONE, fool. |
| 01:45.04 | Kraps | it runs android? |
| 01:45.11 | DWSR | Yep. |
| 01:45.18 | DWSR | 1.6, but it's geting 2.1 in the fall. |
| 01:45.30 | Kraps | this is DWSR http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Sony-Ericsson-Xperia-X10a-phone-gallery-pg_4200-d_18662.html |
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| 01:45.53 | DWSR | Yep. |
| 01:45.58 | DWSR | fucking sexy phone. |
| 01:46.14 | Dagmar | Kraps: I'm not saying "ask yer fone" idly. I already went through this with someone and their HTC Hero yesterday |
| 01:46.14 | DWSR | Only problem is the OSK is a bit unresponsive, but I'll try replacing it with a better OSK. |
| 01:46.16 | Kraps | Shirik: theres some broken refs |
| 01:47.29 | DWSR | hrm. |
| 01:47.31 | DWSR | Let's try this. |
| 01:48.13 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 01:49.06 | Dagmar | Next time someone asks me for help with a phone I've no idea how they have ahead of the street date, I'm going to make them hook me up first |
| 01:51.05 | DWSR | lol |
| 01:51.09 | gain | anyone know what happened to the "show when not active" option in Power Auras |
| 01:51.28 | Kraps | Shirik: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Gaza_flotilla_clash#Do_not_rename_for_at_least_20_minutes |
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| 01:51.46 | DWSR2 | oh hai |
| 01:51.54 | DWSR | lolwut. |
| 01:51.56 | DWSR | Shit's awesome. |
| 01:52.16 | DWSR | Now, to auth it to my ZNC. |
| 01:53.05 | Dagmar | DWSR: You used that one? AndChat looked like it was free |
| 01:53.36 | Dagmar | ...and it's name doesn't make people thikn you hang out in #Guesswhatsinmahpants |
| 01:55.57 | DWSR | I'm using AndroIRC, it was free. |
| 01:56.09 | Dagmar | Really? I thought that one was a buck ninety-five |
| 01:56.21 | DWSR | no, that's Android IRC, and it's $4.95 |
| 01:56.48 | Dagmar | Those f**kers have to start coming up with better names. |
| 01:56.54 | DWSR | I'll try AndChat. |
| 01:56.59 | Dagmar | http://www.androirc.com/ <-- website sez it's 1.95 |
| 01:57.10 | Dagmar | God only knows which one is what now |
| 01:58.59 | Mikk | Pidgin |
| 01:59.03 | Mikk | for icq+msn+irc |
| 01:59.07 | Mikk | wins |
| 01:59.21 | Mikk | sure it doesn't support the kiddiescript packages but eh :P |
| 01:59.22 | WobWork | Antiarc: is there a Mumble vs Ventrilo comparison somewhere? What're the advantages of one over the other, etc? |
| 01:59.29 | Dagmar | You've not actually *used* Pidgin on IRC. |
| 01:59.38 | Mikk | feel free to ctcp version me |
| 01:59.52 | WobWork | Dagmar: ? |
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| 02:00.01 | Dagmar | I'd rather not. I'd have to wipe down the console later. |
| 02:00.04 | Mikk | lmao |
| 02:00.05 | WobWork | I'm using Pidgin -right now- =P |
| 02:00.08 | Mikk | same |
| 02:00.25 | Dagmar | The last time I used it, it appeared that the thing just had no idea that ops exist |
| 02:00.33 | WobWork | wat are ops? |
| 02:00.42 | Mikk | hm? |
| 02:01.12 | Mikk | i see opers with stars before their names, and voiced people with a sound-ey icon |
| 02:01.40 | Dagmar | Well good for you. Pidgin's still a "last resort" client for me |
| 02:01.56 | Mikk | boggles |
| 02:03.38 | Mikk | it really does everything i need it to do in a network with sane service bots |
| 02:04.33 | Kraps | anyone here watch glee? |
| 02:05.40 | DWSR | Yeah, Andchat is better |
| 02:08.36 | DWSR | Even integrates with the notifications. |
| 02:08.46 | DWSR | This is awesome. |
| 02:12.22 | Kraps | Shirik |
| 02:12.29 | Kraps | Shirik |
| 02:13.10 | Torhal | Kraps: You have to tell him that you "fixed a typo". |
| 02:13.22 | Kraps | no... |
| 02:13.29 | Kraps | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cases_of_Penis_removal&redirect=no&rcid=376008168 |
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| 02:15.10 | Shirik | kraps |
| 02:15.36 | Kraps | shirik |
| 02:15.36 | Shirik | wtf |
| 02:15.46 | Kraps | indeed |
| 02:16.01 | DWSR | Lol wtf. There's an Android app to mke your phone a metal detector. |
| 02:18.08 | Nechckn | Yeah, it sort of works. |
| 02:18.16 | Nechckn | Guess it all depends on the actual model |
| 02:23.08 | Shirik | wtf metal detector |
| 02:23.24 | Shirik | they must allow for some really low level APIs |
| 02:25.56 | DWSR | Yeah. Just found the ShapeWriter keyboard as well. Holy hell this is good |
| 02:26.27 | DWSR | ShapeWriter is so win |
| 02:27.00 | kd3 | I <3 coming home to power blinks |
| 02:28.39 | gain | anyone here know how to use POWA well? |
| 02:29.01 | Adys | Arrowmaster, ping |
| 02:29.11 | Arrowmaster | what |
| 02:29.17 | gain | I want to show a aura only if a debuff is not active on the target, for example faerie fire |
| 02:29.27 | Adys | Arrowmaster: you use nvidia official drivers right |
| 02:29.33 | kd3 | oh adys, you pinged me earlier. what's up? |
| 02:29.35 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 02:29.45 | Adys | kd3: don't remember actually |
| 02:29.54 | Arrowmaster | lol and right now im looking at the changelog for the nvidia package in debian |
| 02:30.07 | Dagmar | gain: You also want it to not show up when you're not in combat. |
| 02:30.10 | Xyphoid | gain: yeah, that's pretty straightforward |
| 02:30.16 | gain | Xyphoid: how do i do that |
| 02:30.20 | gain | i can only show it when it is active |
| 02:30.22 | gain | not when it is NOT active |
| 02:30.26 | Dagmar | Clicking! |
| 02:30.32 | Xyphoid | there's a checkbox 'show when not active' or something isn't there |
| 02:30.36 | Dagmar | There is. |
| 02:30.41 | Adys | Arrowmaster: I keep getting an error on my laptop (i actually had it on my desktop too once in a while) |
| 02:30.44 | gain | nope not anymore Xyphoid |
| 02:30.51 | Adys | Arrowmaster: Unable to load the kernel module nvidia.ko |
| 02:30.57 | Xyphoid | well i haven't upgraded it recently heh |
| 02:31.03 | Dagmar | So mouse over the bits until you see the one tooltip that says how to reverse checks |
| 02:31.16 | Arrowmaster | Adys: your using ubuntu right? |
| 02:31.20 | Adys | yeah |
| 02:31.30 | Adys | this only happens since 10.04 too on my desktop |
| 02:31.33 | Adys | saw it frequently |
| 02:31.36 | gain | dagmar nothign thee :( |
| 02:31.40 | Arrowmaster | are you using the binary installer from nvidia or whats in the ubuntu repos? |
| 02:31.52 | WobWork | gain: there -is- one |
| 02:32.03 | WobWork | I use it for not having poisons on my weapons |
| 02:32.07 | WobWork | look near the top |
| 02:32.11 | WobWork | of the options panel |
| 02:32.21 | Xyphoid | i use it for diseases and lots of things |
| 02:32.25 | Adys | Arrowmaster: binary installer |
| 02:32.32 | Adys | the ubuntu repo one sucks hard usually |
| 02:32.34 | gain | nothing there for debuffs man |
| 02:33.06 | Kraps | amg my head asplode at the awesomeness of Glee covers |
| 02:33.09 | WobWork | well, I know it's entirely possible |
| 02:33.15 | Xyphoid | 'invert'? |
| 02:33.26 | Arrowmaster | you need to add 'blacklist nouveau' to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf or another file in that dir or just create a .conf file in that dir and put it in it |
| 02:33.28 | gain | oh hehe |
| 02:33.29 | gain | LOL |
| 02:33.32 | gain | you're right Xyphoid |
| 02:33.33 | gain | thanks |
| 02:33.53 | Shirik | http://www.pcworld.com/article/197618/woman_sues_google_for_bad_directions.html?tk=nl_dnx_h_crawl |
| 02:34.15 | Adys | Arrowmaster: trying that out, thanks, sec |
| 02:34.23 | WobWork | America is ridiculously litigious |
| 02:34.30 | kd3 | wob; you're surprised? |
| 02:34.47 | WobWork | because it's -always- someone elses fault |
| 02:35.33 | WobWork | people who do that should just be spanked |
| 02:35.37 | WobWork | then sent home without dinner |
| 02:35.52 | kd3 | I'd rather they just get handed off to darwin and taken out of the gene pool |
| 02:35.54 | WobWork | and then charged for any legal fees |
| 02:36.21 | WobWork | and be forced to work in the salt mines |
| 02:36.24 | WobWork | til they pay it off |
| 02:37.26 | WobWork | "The real tragedy here is that the car didn't hit her hard enough." |
| 02:38.45 | Dagmar | FFS, don't blame "America" |
| 02:38.53 | Dagmar | This shit goes on in other countries just fine |
| 02:39.06 | kd3 | can we finally take the bard's advice and kill all the lawyers? |
| 02:39.30 | WobWork | Dagmar: It -does- appear that most reports appear to come from America though |
| 02:39.37 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 02:39.38 | purl | ~pong |
| 02:39.41 | WobWork | which in turn, encourages more people to do so |
| 02:39.43 | WobWork | in america |
| 02:39.55 | Dagmar | WobWork: That's because we have a lot of media coverage of morons |
| 02:40.04 | WobWork | So it's America's fault =) |
| 02:40.06 | kd3 | because that makes for great ratings |
| 02:40.10 | WobWork | blame Fox |
| 02:40.14 | kd3 | 'look at that moron. aren't you glad you're better than him?' |
| 02:40.46 | Dagmar | So while we're at it, let's all express disgust for all the Japanese people fucking pillows and inflatable dolls, and all the British people for having terrible dental hygiene |
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| 02:41.08 | WobWork | we do =P |
| 02:41.12 | Dagmar | ...and Germans for playing with poo. |
| 02:41.17 | Adys | Arrowmaster: hmm, this is odd |
| 02:41.17 | Kraps | wut |
| 02:41.20 | WobWork | and um |
| 02:41.21 | Dagmar | ...and the Danish for having Fisker. |
| 02:41.23 | WobWork | who's blaming America? |
| 02:41.30 | Adys | Arrowmaster: i cant get to a tty with nouveau blacklisted |
| 02:41.31 | Kraps | Aussies? |
| 02:41.39 | Arrowmaster | Adys: that is odd |
| 02:41.42 | Adys | i still can get to the desktop |
| 02:41.46 | WobWork | I said "America is ridiculously litigious' |
| 02:41.47 | Adys | its just the TTYs screwing up |
| 02:41.50 | WobWork | is that not true? |
| 02:41.54 | Dagmar | No, it is not. |
| 02:41.57 | WobWork | No? |
| 02:42.04 | WobWork | Then how can a case like that even be presented |
| 02:42.07 | Arrowmaster | maybe you should either try the ubuntu packages or ask in a ubuntu channel |
| 02:42.11 | WobWork | and not laughed out of the lawyer's office? |
| 02:42.14 | Dagmar | It's no more accurate than "Germans like to have poo with their sex." |
| 02:42.30 | WobWork | It's a statement of opinion |
| 02:42.37 | Dagmar | Opinions can be wrong. |
| 02:42.39 | WobWork | note 'ridiculous' |
| 02:42.46 | Kraps | i agree with the Wobster |
| 02:42.48 | WobWork | that is not a scientific measurement |
| 02:42.51 | Adys | Arrowmaster: ill just boot in recovery |
| 02:43.03 | WobWork | Dagmar: alright, opinions can be wrong |
| 02:43.04 | WobWork | so? |
| 02:43.10 | Dagmar | Saying that chinese people can't drive could also be called an "opinion" but most people would call it racist |
| 02:43.24 | WobWork | No. |
| 02:43.35 | WobWork | Saying Chinese people can't drive, is a statement of fact |
| 02:43.37 | Dagmar | Way more Americans are perfectly willing to solve their problems by beating the hell out of each other than suing. |
| 02:43.50 | WobWork | saying "America is ridiculously litigous' is an opinion |
| 02:43.57 | Dagmar | No war needed here--we do just fine shooting each other on a day to day basis. |
| 02:44.20 | WobWork | Ridiculously is not an 'OMG ALL AMERICANS SUE EVERYONE!' |
| 02:44.22 | Dagmar | Wobwork: It's also both wrong and insulting |
| 02:44.31 | WobWork | Dagmar: Are you a moron? |
| 02:44.37 | WobWork | Are you a stupid fuckwit? |
| 02:44.41 | kd3 | oh? I agree we're overly litigious |
| 02:44.44 | Dagmar | Let's talk about how blacks are ridiculously criminal |
| 02:44.49 | kd3 | hates our legal system |
| 02:44.50 | WobWork | wait |
| 02:44.54 | WobWork | Dagmar: Are you a moron? |
| 02:45.16 | Dagmar | No I'm the guy who's spent all day doing documentation for Cacti |
| 02:45.17 | WobWork | Personally I don't think you are |
| 02:45.43 | WobWork | Then why are you feeling offended for all those American litigious morons? |
| 02:46.05 | Dagmar | Because you made a blanket statement about America as a whole. |
| 02:46.15 | WobWork | That it is ridiculously litigious |
| 02:46.19 | Dagmar | It is not. |
| 02:46.20 | WobWork | yes |
| 02:46.23 | WobWork | it totally is |
| 02:46.36 | Dagmar | Less that 2% of the population has ever sued anyone. |
| 02:46.42 | Dagmar | s/that/than/; |
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| 02:46.52 | WobWork | Answer me this. Why wasn't that case thrown out by the lawyer before it even hit the news? |
| 02:47.05 | WobWork | Why was the first impulse of that woman to sue? |
| 02:47.11 | Dagmar | Because unlike in fairy queen land, *lawyers* aren't allowed to throw out cases |
| 02:47.15 | WobWork | because she felt she could get away with it |
| 02:47.19 | Dagmar | Judges throw out cases. |
| 02:47.50 | WobWork | Ok, why was this even considered possible by that woman? |
| 02:47.52 | Dagmar | Ambulance chasers exist in just about every country that doesn't use them as a handy replacement for kindling |
| 02:48.01 | WobWork | why would she think she could get money from Google for that problem? |
| 02:48.23 | WobWork | was she not encouraged to sue by the impressions given by society? |
| 02:48.25 | Dagmar | What's one crazy bitch got to do with Americans as a whole? |
| 02:48.30 | Mikk | Because google has lots of money and she read about hot mcdonalds coffee |
| 02:48.43 | WobWork | I'm saying America is ridiculously litigious |
| 02:48.50 | Dagmar | Read Reuters weird column sometime. America does not have a monopoly on stupid lawsuits. |
| 02:48.54 | WobWork | I'm not saying Only In America Could This Happen |
| 02:49.07 | WobWork | If that was a Brit woman |
| 02:49.07 | Dagmar | There's fucking people in Africa still filing lawsuits claiming they were hexed or cursed by witchcraft |
| 02:49.20 | MoonWitch | sure blame the damn witch |
| 02:49.20 | WobWork | I'd say the same about her |
| 02:49.21 | MoonWitch | gah |
| 02:49.25 | WobWork | damn you MoonWitch |
| 02:49.30 | Dagmar | Moonwitch: heheh |
| 02:49.38 | WobWork | She turned me into a newt |
| 02:49.54 | kd3 | You got better!? |
| 02:49.57 | MoonWitch | but you dont look like a newt |
| 02:50.01 | WobWork | <.< |
| 02:50.02 | WobWork | >.> |
| 02:50.05 | WobWork | Yeah =\ |
| 02:50.35 | MoonWitch | hey Seerah |
| 02:50.49 | Dagmar | Damn I almost can't believe I've been using Inkscape all bloody day and it hasn't exploded once |
| 02:51.03 | MoonWitch | wow\ |
| 02:51.39 | Dagmar | I'm sure my boss will want to know why I used Visio's stencils in Inkscape |
| 02:52.35 | MoonWitch | if he acts annoying - push him out the window |
| 02:53.09 | Dagmar | Yeah and then I'd be stuck with doing all his paperwork. No thanks. |
| 02:53.14 | Dagmar | I'm not in management for a reason. |
| 02:53.24 | MoonWitch | I know violence isn't the answer, but in some cases getting it wrong is far more rewarding |
| 02:53.26 | Dagmar | I'd rather actually *do* things |
| 02:53.36 | Shirik | How not to stitch a panorama: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sacramento_River_Panoramic.jpg |
| 02:53.44 | Thunder_Child | violence /is/ the answer |
| 02:54.14 | MoonWitch | wow Shirik it makes me dizzy |
| 02:54.20 | Shirik | oh no |
| 02:54.24 | Shirik | you want something that makes you dizzy |
| 02:54.26 | Dagmar | Shirik: Where is that place! |
| 02:54.26 | Shirik | I got that covered |
| 02:54.32 | WobWork | Shirik: all that water is flowing DOWNHILL |
| 02:54.37 | Dagmar | Finally, I can go water skiiing! |
| 02:54.41 | Dagmar | A lake with a SLOPE! |
| 02:54.42 | Torhal | Actually, violence is never the answer unless the question is "What does V I O L E N C E spell?" |
| 02:55.19 | Shirik | here you want your head to hurt |
| 02:55.20 | Shirik | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/fdce77a308c6e6d7d802d1273c8c58eb.jpg |
| 02:55.46 | Dagmar | grinds his palms into his eyes |
| 02:55.54 | Thunder_Child | eh |
| 02:55.57 | WobWork | gnarrr |
| 02:56.08 | MoonWitch | Shirik: it doesn't do anything to me, my eyes lose focus on those drawings all the time |
| 02:56.13 | Dagmar | Wow that's truly awful |
| 02:56.14 | Seerah | hi MoonWitch |
| 02:56.18 | Shirik | ok MoonWitch |
| 02:56.18 | Dagmar | Shirik++ |
| 02:56.20 | Shirik | try this one |
| 02:56.35 | Shirik | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/a978765db97263a7ad7eb5470985d3ab.jpg |
| 02:57.06 | Dagmar | I *like* that one |
| 02:57.12 | MoonWitch | I see 4 circles >.< |
| 02:57.16 | Dagmar | You'd freaking swear they were interlocking circles |
| 02:58.13 | Dagmar | These will make for excellent backgrounds the next time someone forces me to use PowerPoint |
| 02:58.23 | MoonWitch | lol good idea! |
| 02:58.38 | Shirik | lol |
| 02:59.46 | DWSR | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:59.53 | MoonWitch | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:00.04 | Shirik | Â |
| 03:00.19 | DWSR | Lol |
| 03:00.26 | WobWork | http://news.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1670522&cid=32410672 |
| 03:01.23 | Shirik | WobWork: lol |
| 03:01.53 | WobWork | Blackberries get some awesome reception =P |
| 03:03.03 | MoonWitch | apparently |
| 03:09.19 | MoonWitch | if you had an hour something left to sleep - would you go back to bed? |
| 03:12.00 | *** join/#wowuidev olafski (~egrimm@dream.student.utwente.nl) |
| 03:13.29 | Shirik | http://graphjam.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/129192942360007579.png |
| 03:13.41 | Dagmar | Moonwitch: I generally *try* but I have dreadful work hours |
| 03:14.29 | Shirik | ~wiki Alexandria Castaneda |
| 03:14.47 | Dagmar | It's generally an exercise in futility because the guy hanging new drywall downstairs isn't going to be done until Thursday |
| 03:14.48 | Dagmar | heh |
| 03:15.58 | alestane | That article needs unbiased corroboration, Shirik. |
| 03:16.25 | Shirik | I added my beliefs to the article |
| 03:16.27 | Shirik | what do you think |
| 03:17.15 | gain | i ahve a question |
| 03:17.20 | gain | do you guys know any sites with nice UIs |
| 03:17.27 | gain | i am tired of the unit frames on top and bars on bottom layout everyone has |
| 03:17.54 | MoonWitch | you could try the site on which you found this irc channel :) WowI had a long page of screenshots, as does wowace :) |
| 03:19.36 | gain | oh |
| 03:19.40 | Thunder_Child | not everyone has that layout |
| 03:19.45 | gain | ahah didn't know that |
| 03:19.50 | gain | Thunder_Child: what are the other options |
| 03:19.55 | Thunder_Child | your other option is to make it yourself |
| 03:19.58 | MoonWitch | well a lot of ppl go for centered UIFrames |
| 03:20.35 | MoonWitch | there are a few that also work with bottom and stacked (so player at bottom, above that target and above that tot) |
| 03:21.25 | Dagmar | gain: You could alternatively spend hours poring over published papers on UI design and dissertations on how humans see things. |
| 03:21.57 | Dagmar | This generally requires you spend *days* Googling just to find them tho |
| 03:22.30 | Adys | Arrowmaster: ok i dont think this is enjoying the nouveau blacklist |
| 03:22.45 | Adys | Arrowmaster: is there a way to just unload the module? |
| 03:23.19 | gain | heh |
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| 03:24.47 | gain | trying to find the thread in forums with post your ui |
| 03:24.49 | Adys | ... |
| 03:24.51 | Adys | in the protip category |
| 03:25.10 | Adys | doublecheck you're running a ssh session before sprouting x restart commands |
| 03:25.15 | gain | what adys? |
| 03:25.25 | Thunder_Child | not you gain |
| 03:25.30 | gain | oh heh |
| 03:25.38 | Thunder_Child | Adys is just demonstration idiocy |
| 03:25.44 | Thunder_Child | demonstrating* |
| 03:25.49 | Adys | you're demonstrating stupid spelling |
| 03:26.00 | Thunder_Child | for years now, yes |
| 03:26.17 | Adys | ok that explains it |
| 03:26.33 | Adys | im sshing to myself instead of the laptop |
| 03:26.43 | Dagmar | averts his eyes |
| 03:26.59 | Dagmar | We'll let you have some privacy for that |
| 03:28.58 | Thunder_Child | i wont |
| 03:29.08 | Thunder_Child | waits for more stupidity from Adys |
| 03:29.09 | Dagmar | echo 'sshd: 127.0.0.1 : twist /bin/echo "Dumbass." | wall' >> /etc/hosts.deny |
| 03:30.08 | Adys | twist? |
| 03:30.58 | Dagmar | Yeah it's an extended option |
| 03:31.14 | Dagmar | I've not looked at the docs in years so there's likely a marginally simpler way to do it, but I'm pretty sure that'll work |
| 03:31.37 | Dagmar | Other uses to annoy skript kiddies: sshd : ALL : twist /bin/echo "SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_3.7" ; /bin/sleep 2 |
| 03:33.08 | Dagmar | Oh yeah... s/twist/spawn/; will prolly work fine. Heh |
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| 03:38.01 | Arrowmaster | Adys: no the nouveau module can not be unloaded |
| 03:38.44 | Adys | im doing this through ssh |
| 03:38.50 | Adys | blacklist nouveau alone didnt help |
| 03:39.01 | Adys | ill try blacklist nvidiafb/rivafb |
| 03:39.29 | Arrowmaster | why dont you ask in an ubuntu channel? |
| 03:39.52 | Adys | Arrowmaster: because ubuntu channels are absolutely useless :P |
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| 03:42.12 | Adys | wow yeah .. |
| 03:42.25 | Adys | LL fucked up nvidia really bad |
| 03:42.35 | Arrowmaster | LL? |
| 03:42.37 | Adys | so much for LTS |
| 03:42.38 | Adys | lucid |
| 03:42.59 | Arrowmaster | are you trying the nvidia-glx package now? |
| 03:43.41 | Adys | yeah its installing now |
| 03:44.04 | Adys | and its nvidia-current btw |
| 03:44.12 | Adys | -glx has been deprecated for a couple releases |
| 03:45.59 | Arrowmaster | because ubuntu users are too stupid to figure out what to do without package names telling them what to install? and they wouldnt be able to make sense of this http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=nvidia |
| 03:46.27 | Adys | eh idk im not responsible of package naming :P |
| 03:46.32 | Adys | but -glx isnt installable anymore i think |
| 03:47.42 | Mikk | making sense of http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=nvidia requires some pretty badass computer-fu |
| 03:47.49 | Adys | ah there we go, good old 640x480 on a 17" screen |
| 03:48.01 | Mikk | failing at it hardly makes you "stupid" |
| 03:49.06 | Adys | Arrowmaster: ok see i dont understand now |
| 03:49.08 | Antiarc | WobWork: http://mmo-mumble.com/help/ComparisonChart |
| 03:49.18 | Arrowmaster | meh, all you have to do is install nvidia-glx on debian and the rest gets pulled in thats needed |
| 03:49.19 | Adys | with nvidia-current installed, I manage to install from the binary installer |
| 03:49.33 | Adys | doesnt complain about nvidia.ko |
| 03:50.07 | Antiarc | WobWork: Key poionts: Mumble has a clearer codec, automatic normalization, less latency, a very flexible overlay, and costs less to use. |
| 03:50.12 | Arrowmaster | Adys: everything ive read and everybody ive talked to always says DO NOT INSTALL WITH THE BINARY INSTALLER FROM NVIDIA.COM |
| 03:50.33 | Adys | well at least for me thats never been true |
| 03:50.36 | Adys | right up until lucid |
| 03:50.44 | Adys | since lucid its gone haywire |
| 03:50.55 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: There's two reasons for that, well maybe three. All of which can be ignored if you're not clueless |
| 03:51.10 | Dagmar | 1. It bypasses the system package inventory, which is subtly bad |
| 03:51.12 | Adys | but before then, first thing i'd do on a clean install was wipe out nvidia-* and wget the one from nvidia ftp |
| 03:51.30 | Adys | also its fucking outdated |
| 03:51.31 | Dagmar | 2. You have to have kernel-headers installed to do it, which many people don't, so we'll file under merely "annoying" |
| 03:51.35 | Adys | most recent is 185.x |
| 03:51.52 | Dagmar | ...and 3. There's probably already a package to do it if you're still using hte canned kernel that came with your distro |
| 03:52.47 | Adys | The following packages will be REMOVED: nvidia-current* |
| 03:52.47 | Adys | After this operation, 133MB disk space will be freed. |
| 03:52.48 | Arrowmaster | well the nouveau KMS stuff is now in the kernel so you have to make sure none of that loads and i guess ubuntu has some other special stuff that needs to be done since the simple 'blacklist nouveau' is all i needed |
| 03:52.49 | Adys | What the fuck? |
| 03:53.12 | Adys | hows nvidia-current so big? |
| 03:53.18 | Dagmar | Source |
| 03:53.28 | Dagmar | ...and probably some padding for building it. |
| 03:53.33 | Adys | ugh |
| 03:53.44 | Arrowmaster | probably comes with the kernel headers or something |
| 03:54.09 | Arrowmaster | i dont question ubuntus stupidity anymore |
| 03:54.32 | Arrowmaster | they package everything up into as few packages as possible it seems |
| 03:55.06 | Adys | See I'd love to use debian but I'd also like to use software from this century |
| 03:55.16 | Arrowmaster | Adys: use debian testing |
| 03:55.27 | Arrowmaster | its just about always more recent than ubuntu |
| 03:55.40 | Adys | thats not true, or at least it wasnt when i tried it out 2 years ago |
| 03:56.11 | Adys | i remember getting a bzr package version 0.18 when grabbing it off the repos |
| 03:56.20 | Adys | which was just about a year old or something |
| 03:56.46 | Arrowmaster | seriously you just said ubuntu has 185.x.x of the nvidia drivers, debian testing has 195.36.24 right now, although that happened just recently, used to have to run a testing/unstable mix because only unstable had the recent nvidia stuff |
| 03:57.26 | Adys | Unpacking nvidia-current (from .../nvidia-current_195.36.15-0ubuntu3_amd64.deb) ... |
| 03:57.30 | Adys | i guess they updated it |
| 03:57.31 | Adys | :p |
| 03:57.39 | Arrowmaster | HA |
| 03:57.46 | Arrowmaster | ive still got a more recent version |
| 03:57.56 | Adys | exception to confirm the rule i suppose |
| 03:58.02 | Adys | ill give debian another shot next release |
| 03:58.06 | Adys | if im still alive by then |
| 03:58.55 | Arrowmaster | a year ago ubuntu did a release with version 1.6.0.4 of git i think while git 1.6.1 had been out for a few months |
| 03:59.21 | Adys | also if ubuntu really pisses me off on the laptop ill install it |
| 03:59.43 | Adys | Arrowmaster: does debian still come only in gnome flavour by default? |
| 03:59.58 | Arrowmaster | it installs gnome by default |
| 04:00.22 | Arrowmaster | but you can tell the installer to install any of Gnome/KDE/XFCE/LXDE |
| 04:00.29 | Adys | neato |
| 04:00.44 | Adys | k lets see if this works |
| 04:00.48 | Arrowmaster | well not the installer but you have to select it at boot |
| 04:00.59 | Arrowmaster | the bootloader tells the installer which one |
| 04:01.06 | Arrowmaster | yes its weird |
| 04:02.07 | Adys | Unable to perform the runtime configuration check for 32-bit library libGL.so.1; this is typically caused by the lack of a 32-bit compatibility environment. |
| 04:02.09 | Adys | what now :( |
| 04:02.17 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 04:02.42 | Arrowmaster | guessing your using 64bit? |
| 04:02.51 | Adys | i think i am, now im not sure anymore |
| 04:03.02 | Arrowmaster | what did you try to do? |
| 04:03.12 | Adys | er it just spat me that out at the end of the install |
| 04:03.25 | Arrowmaster | i dont know |
| 04:04.06 | Adys | uhm |
| 04:04.10 | Arrowmaster | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia/Nouveau |
| 04:04.13 | Arrowmaster | i love that warning |
| 04:04.20 | Arrowmaster | and the line above it |
| 04:04.37 | Adys | lol |
| 04:08.37 | DWSR | Lol |
| 04:09.51 | DWSR | Ubuntu is such a joke. |
| 04:10.18 | DWSR | Use a decent distro please |
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| 04:11.16 | Arrowmaster | Adys: looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers i see 2 bug reports about it the version you just installed failing to properly install and on the side i see that a new version is in Lucid-proposed so maybe that one is fixed |
| 04:11.46 | Adys | im doing something I really shouldnt be doing |
| 04:11.56 | Adys | trying to load wow from a ssh fuse |
| 04:14.15 | Arrowmaster | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/538071 |
| 04:14.23 | DWSR | Adys: Why shouldn't you? |
| 04:14.25 | Arrowmaster | read comment number 6 |
| 04:14.34 | Arrowmaster | that is why ubuntu is a joke distro |
| 04:15.05 | Arrowmaster | they do stupid shit like that, making symlinks for files that are required to be in /etc |
| 04:15.25 | Adys | thats nothing to do with ubuntu itself |
| 04:15.35 | Adys | its specific maintainers doing specific shit |
| 04:15.46 | Adys | moving these maintainers over to debian would get you the same result |
| 04:16.16 | Arrowmaster | no debian has a system that detects stupid shit in packages and issues warnings |
| 04:16.46 | Adys | good old ./code-review.sh ? |
| 04:17.00 | Adys | no system is failproof :P |
| 04:17.15 | Arrowmaster | http://lintian.debian.org/ |
| 04:17.34 | DWSR | What Arrowmaster said |
| 04:17.48 | Adys | this is like compiler warnings |
| 04:18.08 | DWSR | Except better |
| 04:18.09 | Adys | it tells you when your code is weird |
| 04:18.17 | Torhal | Compiler warnings when compiling gcc scares me. |
| 04:18.24 | Adys | it doesn't tell you when some obscure shit goes wrong |
| 04:18.41 | DWSR | It tells you when you're being dumb. |
| 04:18.55 | Adys | Torhal: it's meta-terrorism! |
| 04:19.03 | Torhal | Hah |
| 04:19.07 | Dagmar | argh |
| 04:19.27 | DWSR | I wish something like that existed for my work. |
| 04:19.55 | Arrowmaster | it checks for policy violations, and debian has a very strict and written out policy on how things are done, one of which is that /usr is not needed to boot |
| 04:20.36 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: I'd like to know why someone apparently has a beef against just putting /usr/lib/nvidia-current/modprobe.conf in as /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia.conf in the first freaking place |
| 04:20.45 | Dagmar | The double-abstraction is fail waiting to happen |
| 04:20.49 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: i know |
| 04:21.10 | Arrowmaster | it should not be a symlink at all ever |
| 04:21.15 | DWSR | "Hi, you're being retarded." |
| 04:21.36 | Dagmar | Well, I don't know about the symlink thing, but I do know it's pointless to have the same information in the filesystem in TWO places |
| 04:21.52 | Dagmar | ...the only thing that invites is chaos because one can be changed without the other being changed and pfft. |
| 04:21.59 | DWSR | That's all that that says. |
| 04:22.18 | Adys | kde.org mailing list memberships reminder |
| 04:22.19 | Adys | python.org mailing list memberships reminder |
| 04:22.26 | Adys | waits on brewofthemonth.org mailing list |
| 04:22.29 | Dagmar | The whole point of modprobe.d is so that packages can drop things into play without havign to do some crazy-ass sed magic on system configuration files |
| 04:22.56 | Dagmar | Speaking as a long-time Slackware user, THAT'S A BIG DEAL damnit |
| 04:23.33 | DWSR | Lol |
| 04:23.43 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: have you been keeping up with the systemd vs upstart drama? |
| 04:23.55 | DWSR | Go go ShapeWriter. |
| 04:24.01 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Absolutely not. Both of those groups have lost their minds. |
| 04:24.35 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: what drama? |
| 04:24.40 | Dagmar | They're trying to come up with something "clever" instead of digging around and finding docs about how SysV was supposed to work in the first place, filling in some blanks, and going from there |
| 04:24.43 | DWSR | Link please |
| 04:25.08 | Arrowmaster | well i thought systemd was just a proposal, nothing was actually created yet |
| 04:25.52 | Dagmar | That stuff *can* be done with a regular SysV init with only a few minor changes |
| 04:26.03 | Dagmar | ...and I don't mean changes to initd. |
| 04:26.12 | DWSR | LINK PLEASE |
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| 04:26.32 | DWSR | Jeez |
| 04:26.36 | Dagmar | DWSR: What it amounts to is that they're both trying to make init's operation dependent on whether or not certain facilities are running |
| 04:27.01 | DWSR | That's fucking stupid. |
| 04:27.10 | Arrowmaster | but i couldnt believe how naive the upstart/ubuntu fanboys where with their 'upstart is fine just use that' when one of the main points in the thing i read said that systemd would use standard sysv init.d files unlike upstart which created its own init scripts for each service |
| 04:27.14 | Dagmar | ...problem being they started before most of those facilities had hooks to take care of things that were dependent on them, at activation time |
| 04:27.30 | DWSR | Lol |
| 04:27.44 | Dagmar | Now HAL has no problem whatsoever calling a script once an interface is up, or goes down, or even blinks or looks crosseyed at something |
| 04:28.05 | Arrowmaster | and the reason for keeping the legacy init scripts for each service is that other archs would still work using sysv then, unlike upstart which only works on x86 and x86_64 |
| 04:28.18 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: HAL is dead |
| 04:28.31 | Dagmar | Not so sure about that |
| 04:28.32 | DWSR | My computer just showed a highlight on irc. I'm currently using my phone for irc though |
| 04:29.01 | Dagmar | I'm sure I'll get a crash course in it's current state in the next two weeks as I get back to working on Dropline |
| 04:29.08 | Arrowmaster | http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/hal |
| 04:29.15 | Arrowmaster | big red box |
| 04:29.22 | DWSR | Drop line? |
| 04:29.36 | Dagmar | I |
| 04:29.45 | Arrowmaster | hal is being phased out of debian as functionality is moving to udev |
| 04:29.49 | Dagmar | I'm not sure that means it's dead... just that there's no point in adding new bells/whistles |
| 04:29.55 | Dagmar | Okay, it being merged into udev I can see |
| 04:30.24 | Dagmar | ...but that doesn't really change the fact that it means there a damn-near in-kernel facility for taking care of business when things like the state of network connectivity changes |
| 04:31.31 | DWSR | Anyway good night |
| 04:31.35 | Dagmar | THe _proper_ way to do it, actually |
| 04:31.38 | DWSR | I'm out |
| 04:32.07 | Arrowmaster | that reminds me, i need to fix my udev so that it keeps my damn dvdburner on dvd0,dvdrw0,cdrom0,cdrw0 |
| 04:32.20 | Arrowmaster | it moved to 1 again |
| 04:32.41 | Dagmar | Um.. weird. What got the 0'th slot? |
| 04:32.46 | Arrowmaster | nothing |
| 04:32.50 | Dagmar | o.O |
| 04:34.25 | Arrowmaster | http://pastey.net/137130 |
| 04:34.57 | Arrowmaster | i tweaked the top set previously but it seems its changed address on me |
| 04:35.31 | Dagmar | Ouch. I don't know of any sane solution to that situation |
| 04:35.57 | Dagmar | ...at least not without making the kernel modules try and query the manufacturer's serial number or something equally/onerously time-consuming |
| 04:37.43 | Adys | WoW-0.1.0-enGB-patch.exe |
| 04:37.49 | Adys | sigh, blizzard, you and your naming |
| 04:37.55 | Adys | i dont know if thats ptr 2.1 or 3.1 |
| 04:38.25 | Adys | VehicleSeat.dbc guess its 3.1 |
| 04:40.58 | Dagmar | You can't really match against it's people-friendly string like "LITE-ON DVDRW SOHW-1673S" since the first person with two of the same burner in their machine would send you nastygrams |
| 04:41.26 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: http://pastey.net/137131 |
| 04:41.34 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: can too since its just for my system |
| 04:41.46 | Arrowmaster | i can just edit the file like it says |
| 04:41.58 | Dagmar | Okay that's fine |
| 04:42.06 | Dagmar | I was just referring to a more permanent fix for all cases |
| 04:42.12 | Dagmar | I've looked at that issue before |
| 04:42.28 | Dagmar | I was trying to get my PVR-500 to quit hopping around |
| 04:42.36 | Kraps | Shirik: |
| 04:42.40 | Dagmar | Things got exciting when I added the HD-PVR to the same system |
| 04:42.45 | Shirik | Kraps |
| 04:43.01 | Arrowmaster | the fucking U3 flash drives poluted my udev rules before |
| 04:43.14 | Dagmar | heheh |
| 04:43.23 | Arrowmaster | i was like 'why the fuck is my dvd drive on /dev/dvd7 now?' |
| 04:43.34 | Kraps | whats the command to focus on a text box in a browser? |
| 04:43.40 | Dagmar | Hey I *like* those things now that I've just about managed to get launchpad replaced with TrueCrypt |
| 04:44.10 | Dagmar | The faux-optical on them should probably just be blacklisted since it's barely of any use at all to Linux usersd |
| 04:44.59 | Dagmar | Well, other than a convenient place to stick information about whose crypto filesystem is on the other part of the thumbdrive |
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| 04:45.44 | Arrowmaster | blacklisted from ever making its way into /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-cd.rules |
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| 04:53.00 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:53.02 | Adys | hmmmm |
| 04:53.11 | Adys | must have misplaced something. |
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| 04:56.45 | Jerub | stabs |
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| 04:58.42 | Jerub | i need an iphone so i can rip its AH guts |
| 04:59.41 | Jerub | someone send me an iphone |
| 04:59.44 | Jerub | and about 4 weeks of leave. |
| 05:00.48 | Thunder_Child | why do you want an iphone? |
| 05:01.15 | Jerub | Thunder_Child: for the auctionhouse interaction |
| 05:02.18 | Jerub | i want to know how they do it, so i can steal their sekrits |
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| 05:02.33 | Thunder_Child | a touch will work just as well |
| 05:02.39 | Jerub | it's the same thing. |
| 05:02.42 | Jerub | 'apple product' |
| 05:02.48 | Jerub | god. i feel dirty already. |
| 05:02.58 | Thunder_Child | not really, i dont have to pay a monthly fee for my touch |
| 05:02.59 | Jerub | wonders if he can get one with a deadish battery |
| 05:03.32 | Shirik | ~say shirik |
| 05:03.33 | purl | shirik |
| 05:05.54 | Thunder_Child | Jerub: http://www.genuitec.com/mobile/ ? it says it has an iphone emulator |
| 05:08.09 | Mr_Rabies | there's nothing you can do with the iphone app you can't do from wowarmory.com afaik |
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| 05:12.17 | Jerub | Thunder_Child: oooh, that might be a good idea. |
| 05:12.29 | Jerub | Mr_Rabies: except tcpdump the traffic to see how it works ;) |
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| 05:12.41 | Jerub | i'm guessing i can avoid the ajax crap by using the phone |
| 05:13.54 | Mr_Rabies | i guess that's true, but i thought blizz was usually pretty good about having (mostly undocumented, but stil) access to the raw data |
| 05:14.16 | Jerub | i just want to use the iphone's way of doing it so they can't lock me out as easily ;) |
| 05:15.13 | Mr_Rabies | these AHs are gonna drive the wowecon guys crazy |
| 05:15.22 | Mr_Rabies | i'm glad that it's so accessible |
| 05:15.35 | Mr_Rabies | i was posting and reading auctions while eating at a chinese restaurant today |
| 05:16.02 | Jerub | i want to write something that will allow me to list glyphs at a pushbutton, from the phone |
| 05:16.08 | Jerub | but there's a few challenges i have to overcome |
| 05:24.14 | Shirik | http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/05/31/dot-shot-sinkhole-in-guatemala-city/ |
| 05:27.55 | WobWork | Shirik: yeah, crazy |
| 05:32.41 | Antiarc | http://i.imgur.com/FAbjF.jpg |
| 05:39.57 | Shirik | ....... |
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| 05:46.12 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
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| 06:12.31 | Kraps | hey guys does anyone know the link to the microscope/telescope think online that shows how the scale? |
| 06:12.53 | Kraps | nvm just found it! |
| 06:13.30 | Jerub | it's on ytmnd somewhere |
| 06:14.13 | Kraps | http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/primer/java/scienceopticsu/powersof10/ |
| 06:19.23 | Kraps | night |
| 06:22.21 | Alishar | the following picture is my server on a good day.... |
| 06:22.22 | Alishar | http://i49.tinypic.com/1z57uqx.jpg |
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| 06:22.32 | Alishar | ASCII ART @ ITS BEST :) |
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| 06:41.48 | Dagmar | Alishar: Trust me, once you have half the server on ignore, things get a lot better. |
| 06:42.08 | Dagmar | I look at that crap like some little five-year old is trying to tell me a knock-knock joke he thinks is new |
| 06:42.33 | Dagmar | We were bombing channels on IRC with better in '92 |
| 06:42.59 | Dagmar | I used to have a great one featuring two people running and a leering figure with the legend 'GOD TOLD ME TO SKIN YOU ALIVE." |
| 06:43.10 | Fisker | hey Dagmar |
| 06:43.13 | Mr_Rabies | i have a dinosaur |
| 06:43.17 | Mr_Rabies | it's like 100 lines |
| 06:43.22 | Dagmar | Fisker: Hehe heya |
| 06:43.23 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 06:43.30 | Mr_Rabies | but i love my textosaurus |
| 06:43.56 | Dagmar | Large is just a matter of punting something through libaa. The real question is whether or not it's _detailed_ and _good_ |
| 06:44.56 | Dagmar | A master of ASCII can draw The Death Star in eight lines or less, and you'd be able to tell from which part of what movie it was from |
| 06:45.04 | Mr_Rabies | i also had a modded version of that finger one |
| 06:45.11 | Mr_Rabies | where the middle finger was like, 300 lines long |
| 06:45.18 | Mr_Rabies | everything else was the same |
| 06:45.27 | Mr_Rabies | just a LONG middle finger |
| 06:45.46 | Dagmar | I saw a japanese one once in *ten* lines with a ring of kittens running in a circle |
| 06:45.51 | Mr_Rabies | but now every server i connect to has flood protection that kicks in before i even get to a knuckle |
| 06:45.53 | Mr_Rabies | :( |
| 06:46.09 | Dagmar | Mr_rabies: This is because brute-force flooding is for the lame |
| 06:46.20 | Antiarc | Anyone have a heroic XT-002 log, by chance? |
| 06:46.38 | Mr_Rabies | Dagmar, i don't use it for evil, just for laughs |
| 06:46.39 | Dagmar | ASCII art that is lame ceases to be worthy of the title _art_ |
| 06:46.44 | Mr_Rabies | script kiddy stuff is boring |
| 06:47.05 | Jerub | i saw some ansi art that blew me away back in the dps days |
| 06:47.11 | Jerub | the space shuttle taking off |
| 06:47.12 | Jerub | <3 |
| 06:47.12 | Mr_Rabies | for some reason a terrible, hideous middle finger ascii that is massive is hilarious |
| 06:47.29 | Dagmar | Now, a forearm with mexican jail tatooing on it in a small number of lines would be impressive, and have great potential for being offensive |
| 06:47.58 | Jerub | Dagmar: only for you mexicans. |
| 06:48.09 | Mr_Rabies | i want a tattoo of longmiddlefinger ascii |
| 06:48.55 | Dagmar | I'm not mexican |
| 06:49.21 | Dagmar | It's just that the black forest script they like is particularly amenable to ascii conversion |
| 06:49.32 | Dagmar | See also: figlet. |
| 06:50.19 | Jerub | Dagmar: what i intended that remark to mean was, it's hard to be offensive on the net using racial slurs if you're doing it with stuff so specific that only you and those in your locale will understand. |
| 06:50.34 | Mr_Rabies | http://pastey.net/137132#numbers |
| 06:50.35 | Mr_Rabies | there we go |
| 06:50.56 | Mr_Rabies | so not 300, like 50ish |
| 06:51.01 | Dagmar | Jerub: I just think there's not a lot of point in racial slurs on the internet |
| 06:53.15 | Torhal | I kinda miss the ATASCII days. |
| 06:53.57 | Dagmar | I kinda don't miss them because for a long damn time I was using C=128D and a 2400 baud modem |
| 06:54.06 | Torhal | Hehe |
| 06:54.25 | Dagmar | There were some places with login art so complex I couldn't even freaking login because it would time out before the whole thing could come across the line |
| 06:54.40 | Dagmar | Yes I have been using computers a long-ass time. heh |
| 06:55.08 | Torhal | I remember when 2400 baud was OMFG fast |
| 06:55.14 | WobWork | hehe |
| 06:55.17 | WobWork | those were the days |
| 06:55.22 | Torhal | I had a 300-baud on my 800XL |
| 06:55.30 | Torhal | With a tape drive. |
| 06:55.32 | Dagmar | I eventually got to the point where I could keep up with scroll at about 7200 |
| 06:55.37 | WobWork | watching BBS's load up one character at a time |
| 06:55.38 | Torhal | Before that, I had a ColecoVision Adam |
| 06:55.52 | Torhal | Daisy-wheel printers FTW |
| 06:55.54 | Torhal | Heh |
| 06:56.01 | Dagmar | Dude I actualyl liked those |
| 06:56.04 | Fisker | hey WobWork |
| 06:56.20 | WobWork | we had an apple cpu, an Orange monitor, a Mandarin keyboard... |
| 06:56.23 | Torhal | CP/M and Logo on tape |
| 06:56.23 | WobWork | we called it the fruit salad |
| 06:56.27 | Dagmar | They were noisy as hell, but the printing was usably consistent |
| 06:56.28 | WobWork | hey Fisker |
| 06:56.39 | Torhal | Yah, the printers did a good job |
| 06:57.13 | Torhal | I wonder if anyone kept the ATASCII shit I made from way back |
| 06:57.17 | Dagmar | I started with a TI 99/4a, literally exhausted what could be done with it in about 6 months, and then got a shiny new Commodore 64 and a 300 baud VICmodem |
| 06:57.21 | Fisker | you wouldn't mind if i liked you right WobWork ? |
| 06:57.40 | Dagmar | Torhal: If you looked hard you might find it |
| 06:57.50 | Dagmar | There's guys who do make an effort to keep it available online |
| 06:58.05 | Dagmar | ...just because it's literally this vast *sea* of stuff that fits on a DVD or two |
| 07:00.19 | WobWork | Fisker: depends on if you wipe up after yourself |
| 07:01.47 | Dagmar | http://artcode.org/ascii/index.php <-- handy |
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| 07:03.38 | WobWork | hehe web ring |
| 07:04.46 | Dagmar | Whoever puts this onto t-shirts will make a fortune, I think. http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/05/500x_bpgoatse.jpg |
| 07:05.08 | Dagmar | It might be considered NSFW, but the URL makes how semi-obvious |
| 07:05.15 | Torhal | Hah |
| 07:05.29 | Torhal | Just looking at that traumatizes me |
| 07:06.11 | Dagmar | I think the BP logo actually makes it worse now, knowing that their mess will soon join the ranks of "Manmade things easily visible from space" |
| 07:07.10 | Maldivia | soon? |
| 07:07.27 | Dagmar | Hence, the 'easily' adjective |
| 07:08.04 | Dagmar | If they get to piddle around like they're doing until *August* it'll be a near-certainty |
| 07:09.23 | Maldivia | i thought it was already quite easy to spot from space, judging from the sattelite images released |
| 07:10.23 | Dagmar | It's not turning the water completely non-blue just yet |
| 07:11.20 | Maldivia | well, at least it will most likely calm the huricane season |
| 07:11.54 | Dagmar | I would like to think so |
| 07:12.04 | Dagmar | What I would *not* like is for one of those to pick a bunch of it up |
| 07:12.27 | Dagmar | ...because just about every bloody one of those Gulf hurricanes likes to make a pass or two through *here* on it's way out |
| 07:12.45 | WobWork | hm |
| 07:12.53 | WobWork | imagine an oilslick tornado |
| 07:12.55 | WobWork | on fire |
| 07:12.57 | Dagmar | I will not be amused if a July rainstorm covers everything in slimy grease |
| 07:13.01 | Dagmar | People will die |
| 07:13.09 | Dagmar | Nashvillians are dumb as rocks when it comes to that |
| 07:13.28 | Maldivia | well, the heat emissions from the sea, the the hurricanes feed of, are considerably lower with the oil |
| 07:13.31 | Dagmar | Freaking 184 car crashes before 10am when we had the last ice storm, which the news was telling *everyone* about the night before |
| 07:13.48 | Dagmar | So just imagine interstates with actual oil all over them |
| 07:14.03 | Dagmar | Atlanta would probably have to shut down |
| 07:14.07 | Jerub | WobWork: <3 |
| 07:14.15 | Jerub | WobWork: help, how do i commission an artist to do that? |
| 07:14.19 | Dagmar | I know those lunatics drive 85mph through the city with nine lanes on a side, but still... |
| 07:14.37 | Maldivia | dagmar, light a match as it passes through |
| 07:14.40 | WobWork | Dagmar: they'll start selling 'oil chains' for your wheels |
| 07:14.50 | Dagmar | Ya can't use chains here |
| 07:14.55 | WobWork | with suckers on it |
| 07:15.04 | Jerub | WobWork: soap sprayers |
| 07:15.13 | Dagmar | Chains pretty much destroy streets. The only time the cops look the other way on that is during major ice storms |
| 07:16.06 | Dagmar | I don't even want to think about what it would be like here if oil gets dumped on everything in June and then we have another neverending drought in August like recently |
| 07:16.27 | Dagmar | Even those super-durable shrubberies with leaves so thick and waxy they look fake died here |
| 07:17.00 | Dagmar | We have *craptons* of trees |
| 07:17.24 | Dagmar | When you fly into BNA during the day, you mainly see forest and interstates below |
| 07:17.41 | Dagmar | ...even though it's non-stop urban sprawl for about 50 miles in every direction |
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| 07:25.44 | Fisker | slaps WobWork around a bit with a large trout |
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| 07:27.43 | Maldivia | dagmar, where is "here" |
| 07:28.15 | WobWork | points at Dagmar. Over there |
| 07:28.34 | Dagmar | Tennessee |
| 07:28.54 | Dagmar | I would have thought "BNA" would give it away but I suppose normal people don't have all the airport codes memorized. |
| 07:28.56 | Dagmar | heh |
| 07:29.06 | WobWork | ywah |
| 07:29.14 | WobWork | Nashville International Airport (BNA) |
| 07:29.21 | Antiarc | http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/ca4bl/time_to_get_classy/ |
| 07:29.42 | Dagmar | Yeah when I started at the travel agency they told me I'd have to memorize about 380 arcane three letter codes like it was a terrible thing and I just laughed at them |
| 07:29.46 | Maldivia | well, cant even remember the one closest to me, so |
| 07:29.59 | Dagmar | It's nothing if you've programmed in assembly for any length of time. |
| 07:30.09 | Maldivia | hehe |
| 07:30.46 | WobWork | Antiarc: that... sir.. is awesome |
| 07:30.53 | Antiarc | Yes. Yes it is. |
| 07:30.53 | Maldivia | well, some of the higher level aren't that much better |
| 07:31.01 | Antiarc | I am sitting here so utterly relaxed I might actually pass out. |
| 07:31.03 | Dagmar | I'm pretty sure my brain is refusing to come up with the answer |
| 07:31.06 | Dagmar | wrongchan |
| 07:32.15 | Maldivia | dagmar, so those 380, are those international or domestic |
| 07:33.01 | Dagmar | Entirely domestic was about 100 less |
| 07:33.16 | Dagmar | I did not work international flights, but I knew how |
| 07:33.40 | Dagmar | Some guy really pissed me off one night and demanded I quote him a flight to Turkey |
| 07:34.15 | Dagmar | I've every confidence the flight plan I put together for about 3,800 would do it, and he told me he could get it for 800. |
| 07:34.44 | Dagmar | I told him to enjoy his Fed Ex ride in a wooden crate and hung up |
| 07:35.00 | Maldivia | heh |
| 07:35.17 | Dagmar | You can ship a *body* for about that much, as cargo |
| 07:35.53 | wereHamster | dead or alive? |
| 07:35.54 | Dagmar | I liked that job but fare wars will *murder you* |
| 07:36.35 | Dagmar | wereHamster: you better be dead because being nailed into a small wooden box and stuck in an unpressurized, unheated cargo bay for a week would seriously limit ones chances for survival |
| 07:36.45 | Maldivia | hmm, i payed around 1200 from denmark to san francisco, and back |
| 07:37.05 | wereHamster | I thought the cargo bays were pressurised nowadays. What when you ship live animals (dogs/cats etc)? |
| 07:37.07 | Dagmar | You also weren't demanding to go in six days I'll bet |
| 07:37.30 | Maldivia | no, i booked 2 months in advance |
| 07:38.03 | Dagmar | Yeah that can be done with 21-30 days |
| 07:38.07 | Maldivia | i can see how that makes a difference :) |
| 07:38.37 | Dagmar | I've gone BNA-SFO-BNA about 7-8 times now for 400 or so |
| 07:38.55 | Dagmar | ...but under 7 days it's 1,400-1,800 |
| 07:39.47 | Maldivia | i was quite surprised how cheap domestic flights in the us are |
| 07:40.02 | Dagmar | After you've spent a year *working their actual systems* you can really develop a deep and abiding hatred for the things some of those airline agents do |
| 07:40.04 | WobWork | My parents went to Melbourne for the weekend |
| 07:40.12 | WobWork | paid less for the flight than for the taxi ride to the airport |
| 07:40.31 | Dagmar | Yes, but you're *IN* Australia already |
| 07:40.46 | WobWork | well true |
| 07:40.48 | Dagmar | I coudn't even do the flight to there |
| 07:40.58 | WobWork | Depends on your run up |
| 07:41.01 | Dagmar | The 14 hour leg I would have to be tranquilized for |
| 07:41.13 | WobWork | you could do it in stages |
| 07:41.20 | WobWork | it's only 12ish from Singapore |
| 07:41.23 | WobWork | or is that 8 |
| 07:41.24 | Dagmar | Just take a dip in the ocean every few hours sure |
| 07:41.29 | Maldivia | frankfurt to sfo is 12 |
| 07:42.08 | WobWork | yeah 8:30 from Sydney to Singapore |
| 07:42.13 | Dagmar | WobWork: I would rather not fly anywhere like Singapore |
| 07:42.24 | WobWork | as long as you don't leave the airport =) |
| 07:42.34 | WobWork | it has one of the nicer airports around, too, so that helps |
| 07:42.40 | Dagmar | Remember, I'm paranoid. |
| 07:43.02 | WobWork | Maybe you -should- ship yourself fedex =\ |
| 07:43.13 | wereHamster | the city is also nice.. |
| 07:43.23 | Dagmar | TN is 2670370560 square inches |
| 07:43.25 | Jerub | who are the people working on auctioneer? |
| 07:43.44 | WobWork | norganna |
| 07:43.47 | WobWork | et al |
| 07:44.00 | Dagmar | Wobwork: WEll, I'm not claustrophobic at least, but I still get *very tense* if my options for mobility are limited |
| 07:44.20 | WobWork | Dagmar: make your carry on, a parachute =) |
| 07:44.38 | Dagmar | I'd rather not make a visit to the TSA proctologist, thanks. |
| 07:45.01 | Dagmar | You don't bring something like that as a carry-on in the US. |
| 07:45.06 | WobWork | "Well, you don't have any drugs, and on the upside, you appear to be cancer free!" |
| 07:45.28 | WobWork | Dagmar: from what I've read, you try not to bring -anything- as carryon in the US |
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| 07:45.50 | WobWork | at least not if you want to keep it |
| 07:46.03 | Dagmar | Wobwork: THAT is likely to attract attention as well |
| 07:46.29 | Dagmar | If you have no carry on you can bet they're going to look your checked luggage over real good |
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| 07:47.12 | Dagmar | The only good thing aobut that is if you get two very *large* suitcases and just fill them with stuff, you will not have to carry your own bags in ANY US airport |
| 07:47.31 | Dagmar | Someone will be *right there* the moment you're off the taxi to "help" you |
| 07:50.37 | wereHamster | Fisker: congratulations: http://www.dailytech.com/EV+Automaker+Fisker+Picks+up+189M+USD+in+Funding/article18560.htm |
| 07:50.59 | Kalroth | Fisker: You're a pretty car. |
| 07:51.46 | WobWork | http://i.imgur.com/LdLkR.jpg |
| 07:53.04 | Torhal | Fisker: DO your cars run on litres of milk? |
| 07:57.11 | Fisker | i wish Torhal |
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| 08:54.27 | Maldivia | omg... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-eAhyMi54c - absolutely fabulous :P |
| 08:56.13 | Fisker | stop being so danish Maldivia |
| 08:58.52 | Fisker | you make me sick Wobin |
| 08:59.56 | Maldivia | Fisker: meeh, why shouldn't I be proud of being Danish? |
| 09:00.12 | Fisker | who said anything about being proud? |
| 09:00.53 | Maldivia | well, you told me to "stop being so danish" |
| 09:01.03 | zenzio | you shouldn't be proud of being Danish because of Fisker |
| 09:01.11 | Wobin | wtf, commodore? |
| 09:01.14 | Wobin | http://www.chipchick.com/2010/05/commodore-invictus.html |
| 09:01.46 | Fisker | old Wobin |
| 09:01.59 | Maldivia | zenzio: well, we done need someone or something to offset all the greatness in Denmark :P |
| 09:02.04 | Fisker | yeah Maldivia |
| 09:02.06 | Wobin | old Fisker |
| 09:02.15 | zenzio | Maldivia: that explains why Fisker is such a huge pain |
| 09:02.40 | Maldivia | zenzio: yeah, there's a lot of preasure weighing on his shoulders |
| 09:02.42 | Fisker | zenzio |
| 09:02.45 | Fisker | i fucked your sons dog |
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| 09:07.15 | Fisker | zenzio |
| 09:07.18 | Fisker | how do you feel about that? |
| 09:07.50 | Zyn | Fisker's the reason Denmark's so flat |
| 09:08.20 | Fisker | indirectly yes |
| 09:08.29 | Fisker | it was when i fucked your mom that Denmark got so flat |
| 09:09.10 | Wobin | Cairenn, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfJnqbudMzs&feature=player_embedded |
| 09:09.10 | Fisker | you know because your momma is so fat, etc. |
| 09:09.35 | Fisker | fake Wobin |
| 09:09.42 | Wobin | nowai! |
| 09:10.31 | Fisker | hard to believe but i can see from having seen quite a few fakes in my time |
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| 09:17.36 | Fisker | good morning kd3 |
| 09:18.11 | Cairenn | Wobin: hehehe |
| 09:18.35 | Wobin | also |
| 09:18.36 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO7xWMi0lR8&feature=player_embedded |
| 09:18.37 | Fisker | but it's fake! |
| 09:18.45 | Wobin | watch the drummer |
| 09:18.49 | Wobin | (for something more real) |
| 09:18.50 | Cairenn | Fisker: and your point? |
| 09:19.06 | Fisker | that it's fake :O |
| 09:19.28 | Fisker | that's all i got |
| 09:19.47 | Cairenn | Wobin: and I'm keeping an eye on the drummer, why? |
| 09:19.54 | Wobin | waits... |
| 09:20.00 | Cairenn | the fact that he's pretty good? |
| 09:20.11 | Cairenn | ie the stick work? |
| 09:20.21 | Wobin | is brought to mind of Animal |
| 09:20.26 | Cairenn | hehehe, yeah |
| 09:20.29 | Cairenn | he is good though |
| 09:20.34 | Cairenn | nice stick work |
| 09:20.49 | Wobin | you can see he got bored in rehearsal =) |
| 09:20.54 | Cairenn | indeed |
| 09:21.11 | Cairenn | I couldn't do it any more, waaaaayyyyyyyyyy too many years out of practice |
| 09:21.23 | Wobin | get back to practicin! |
| 09:22.07 | Cairenn | watching him, though, I'd be very inclined to bet that he actually played on the drum line in a marching band |
| 09:22.27 | Cairenn | a lot of the moves are very typical ones for field performance |
| 09:22.44 | Wobin | yeah, that was my initial impression |
| 09:22.54 | Wobin | especially the over the head arm movements |
| 09:22.58 | Cairenn | nod |
| 09:23.13 | Wobin | but yeah, totally stealing the show from the frontman =P |
| 09:23.43 | Cairenn | well, given how often drummers are completely ignored, I always love it when they /are/ given center stage |
| 09:23.49 | Wobin | indeed |
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| 09:28.30 | Fisker | i cannot be stopped Wobin |
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| 09:44.44 | Fisker | slaps Cide around a bit with a large trout |
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| 09:44.46 | Fisker | you |
| 09:44.48 | Fisker | not you |
| 09:44.50 | Fisker | but you |
| 09:49.25 | Cide | hi |
| 09:49.40 | Cide | Fisker: I'm on a horse. |
| 09:51.54 | Cairenn | giggles at Cide |
| 09:55.19 | Elkano | looks at Cide, than back at Cairenn, then back at Cide, then back at Cairenn... |
| 09:55.45 | Cairenn | I have an oyster! It has two tickets, to that thing you love! |
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| 10:04.28 | Fisker | i'm on a horse |
| 10:04.56 | Fisker | Elkano you're telling me that Cairenn could smell like she's Cide? |
| 10:05.35 | Fisker | or is it the other way around? |
| 10:05.39 | Elkano | the other way around |
| 10:05.56 | Fisker | oh ok |
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| 10:15.43 | harl | ahoy |
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| 10:22.00 | zenzio | "CodeSourcery's Mark Mitchell wrote to the GCC mailing list yesterday reporting that 'the GCC Steering Committee and the FSF have approved the use of C++ in GCC itself. Of course, there's no reason for us to use C++ features just because we can. The goal is a better compiler for users, not a C++ code base for its own sake.' Still undecided is what subset of C++ to use, as many contributors are experts in C, but novices in C++; there is a call for a volun |
| 10:22.00 | zenzio | teer to develop the C++ coding standards." |
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| 10:22.05 | zenzio | this could be interesting |
| 10:22.07 | ZorbaBeta | goddamn, 5 minutes for LFD so far |
| 10:22.24 | ZorbaBeta | zenzio, I heard the most brutal summary possible of GCC in response to that |
| 10:22.26 | Grum | ZorbaBeta: spec tank! |
| 10:22.35 | ZorbaBeta | "This can't be a reaction to Clang. The GCC developers don't move that quickly." |
| 10:22.41 | ZorbaBeta | grum, I am! |
| 10:22.42 | ZorbaBeta | And healer! |
| 10:22.43 | ZorbaBeta | And DPS! |
| 10:22.50 | Grum | ZorbaBeta: ghehe |
| 10:22.58 | zenzio | ZorbaBeta: hehe |
| 10:23.13 | Grum | ZorbaBeta: i guess your gear must be all green! |
| 10:23.35 | ZorbaBeta | grum, it mostly is, I'm pretty damn overgeared for level 16 |
| 10:23.37 | ZorbaBeta | ;) |
| 10:23.41 | Grum | lal |
| 10:26.31 | zenzio | "How do you compile a compiler written in the language it compiles..." - this guy can't have looked into compilers much |
| 10:27.02 | Grum | bootstrapping ftw |
| 10:27.18 | ZorbaBeta | zenzio, I like how the exact same question could be asked about a C compiler |
| 10:27.31 | zenzio | ZorbaBeta: that was the first response =D |
| 10:27.44 | sioraiocht | haste: FYI, jnwhiteh and I are in love with your Eurovision singer form this yera |
| 10:28.04 | zenzio | sioraiocht: you can have him, we don't want him anymore |
| 10:28.14 | sioraiocht | LOL why? |
| 10:28.28 | zenzio | we've had to listen to him and how his "hard is yours" for a year now :-p |
| 10:28.36 | sioraiocht | hahahah |
| 10:28.37 | zenzio | (he only changed his accent to British before the Eurovision) |
| 10:28.54 | sioraiocht | zenzio: where in Norway are you from? |
| 10:29.03 | zenzio | Kristiansand |
| 10:29.23 | sioraiocht | oh wow! |
| 10:29.27 | sioraiocht | that must be AWESOME |
| 10:29.52 | sioraiocht | really misses the seaside ;) |
| 10:29.57 | zenzio | given that I've only lived here I can't really compare, but I like it here ;) |
| 10:31.22 | sioraiocht | cool, heh |
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| 10:38.04 | Wobin | oh god |
| 10:38.06 | Wobin | wind tunnel |
| 10:38.12 | Wobin | on the russian performance =P |
| 10:46.20 | Legorol | Germany was really good, they deserve to have won imo |
| 10:46.25 | Legorol | far better than the rest |
| 10:46.46 | zenzio | I agree, though it is a matter of opinion |
| 10:49.23 | Wobin | hm |
| 10:49.26 | Arrowmaster | i have no clue what you guys are talking about |
| 10:49.30 | Wobin | Norway |
| 10:49.36 | Wobin | he's singing it like a national anthem =P |
| 10:49.44 | zenzio | Arrowmaster: the Eurovision Song Contest |
| 10:49.56 | Arrowmaster | never heard of it |
| 10:49.59 | Wobin | ... |
| 10:50.02 | Wobin | My god man =( |
| 10:50.06 | Wobin | You've been DEPRIVED |
| 10:50.06 | zenzio | Wobin: he's actually (training to be) an opera singer, so yeah... I didn't like the song, not Eurovision style |
| 10:50.14 | Wobin | zenzio, not camp enough =) |
| 10:54.43 | industrial | Fisker: |
| 10:54.45 | industrial | http://www.explosm.net/db/files/Comics/Rob/superpower.png |
| 10:54.47 | industrial | when you see it youll shit bricks |
| 10:56.04 | foxlit | Germany should've won last year, tbh. |
| 10:56.59 | krka | germany should have won in 2002 tbh |
| 10:57.12 | krka | in fact, almost all countries should have won in 2002 |
| 10:57.21 | industrial | germany should have won in 1945 tbh |
| 10:57.28 | industrial | sorry that was too easy |
| 10:58.08 | krka | 2002 was the best eurovision year ever |
| 10:59.23 | zenzio | I can't recall that far back :-p |
| 10:59.40 | krka | some favorites: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmZapNC1FbI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqlhfko9V3o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sp94nRuwpo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFqixvuJuOg |
| 10:59.47 | krka | germany, russia, greece, cyprus |
| 11:01.35 | olafski | arrowmaster: I tried helheim on my berserker, died about 8 times to the same mob (the first one of those "floaters").. then tried on my commando and never even got below 50% hp |
| 11:01.38 | Wobin | ... I dunno the German chick couldn't sing |
| 11:01.39 | olafski | berserker is a lot more fun though |
| 11:02.23 | Arrowmaster | olafski: zerker = squishy |
| 11:03.07 | olafski | rather |
| 11:03.13 | olafski | but when you get to combo level 3+ it's mighty fun :P |
| 11:03.41 | olafski | btw this one is awesome, not sure if it's ESF or just dutch SF.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCBmuxH0XJw |
| 11:04.53 | olafski | arrowmaster: I picked human on the berserker, at CL 5 I can hardly see what's going on due to the motion blur :D |
| 11:05.16 | Arrowmaster | my human zerker just bounces around and things die |
| 11:05.24 | olafski | yep :P |
| 11:05.34 | olafski | and then you accidentally hit a light polarity mob and you die |
| 11:05.50 | Arrowmaster | i can take most of them |
| 11:05.58 | Arrowmaster | its the rocket goblins that rape me |
| 11:06.02 | olafski | I have to say, that rolling trip helped me a lot in the unstoppable achieves |
| 11:06.09 | olafski | trick* |
| 11:06.21 | olafski | a bit like the lava jumping in wow ;) |
| 11:07.29 | Arrowmaster | i swear at 50 in helheim one barrage from a pair of rocket goblins takes over half my hp if i fail to get the roll timing exact and dont negate all the damage |
| 11:08.13 | Arrowmaster | and usually theres more rockets coming in before i can get up from the knockdown |
| 11:08.15 | olafski | you don't take damage if you roll there through rockets either? :s |
| 11:08.31 | Arrowmaster | you dont take damage while rolling PERIOD |
| 11:08.36 | olafski | oh :P |
| 11:08.39 | olafski | I thought it was just the dots |
| 11:08.45 | olafski | only found that out last week =( |
| 11:08.59 | olafski | my berserker got a tier 3 charm already at lvl 42, just don't have the stuff to put in it now =( |
| 11:09.49 | olafski | I used to just roll through rockets so I wouldn't get knocked down, didn't know about the no-damage.. it helps on spiders too though |
| 11:09.59 | olafski | I could've sworn I took damage when rolling near trolls |
| 11:10.12 | Arrowmaster | nope |
| 11:10.48 | olafski | hm |
| 11:10.54 | Arrowmaster | ive had to do the rolling dance against a gold elite troll before while i had only a sliver of hp left |
| 11:11.00 | olafski | those freezing trolls are my nemesis |
| 11:11.08 | Arrowmaster | oh god yeah |
| 11:11.13 | olafski | and that floating fatso apparently |
| 11:11.16 | Arrowmaster | and ones that do DOTs |
| 11:11.23 | olafski | could barely get close to that one without dying |
| 11:11.38 | Arrowmaster | one ruiner usually kills the floating guys |
| 11:12.50 | Arrowmaster | if you max out ruins for hammer shockwave raidus (dont remember exact name) you can use a 2hd hammer and kill trolls by just slamming the ground over and over |
| 11:13.54 | olafski | hmm |
| 11:13.58 | olafski | cool :) |
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| 11:19.39 | olafski | ackis: ping :P |
| 11:21.28 | Fisker | hey olafski |
| 11:23.37 | Fisker | btw Legorol |
| 11:23.50 | Fisker | me singing about fucking your sons dog > everything at eurovision |
| 11:23.52 | Fisker | nuff said |
| 11:24.52 | Legorol | yah yah |
| 11:25.06 | Legorol | have you posted that on youtube yet? |
| 11:25.18 | Fisker | no :( |
| 11:28.47 | Fisker | wouldn't you agree though zenzio ? |
| 11:32.05 | Fisker | this is pissing me off |
| 11:38.26 | Legorol | olafski and Arrowmaster: what game ar eyou talkinga bout? |
| 11:38.32 | Legorol | fails at spacing |
| 11:49.56 | industrial | owns face at spacing |
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| 11:56.39 | olafski | legorol: Too Human |
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| 12:00.18 | batrick | zzz |
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| 12:30.50 | mikma | http://www.tuaw.com/2010/05/31/google-to-employees-mac-or-linux-but-no-more-windows/ |
| 12:30.53 | mikma | OLD FISKER, OLD! |
| 12:37.30 | Fisker | not as old as it is fail mikma |
| 12:43.51 | olafski | there goes my faint wish to work at google ;) |
| 12:49.48 | Fisker | i call lies olafski |
| 13:14.37 | airtonix | this is relevant to my interests |
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| 13:17.29 | olafski | it was no lie fisker |
| 13:17.35 | Adys | http://developers.slashdot.org/story/10/06/01/0245259/GCC-Moving-To-Use-C-Instead-of-C?from=rss |
| 13:17.42 | airtonix | dreams are not lies |
| 13:21.18 | Kaso | the url of that is confusing |
| 13:21.27 | Kaso | moving to use c instead of c |
| 13:23.43 | zenzio | Kaso: pretty typical though for URLs |
| 13:23.59 | zenzio | I find it much less annoying than trying to search for c++ stuff on search engines |
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| 13:24.46 | DWSR | Since the plus sign has a different meaning in urls. |
| 13:25.00 | Kaso | well i think google has special exceptions for various programming langugages doesn't it? but yeah other less good search engines arent the best |
| 13:25.12 | DWSR | Yeah zenzio |
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| 13:27.03 | zenzio | Kaso: Google is fairly good, but got some flaws. But it's definitely better than many |
| 13:27.10 | DWSR | Still a pain to search for it though. |
| 13:27.15 | zenzio | it's also good at stuff like "objc" matching "Objective-C" |
| 13:27.56 | DWSR | Meh |
| 13:28.15 | DWSR | That's to be expected. |
| 13:29.09 | DWSR | Synonymous words are pretty easy to do for search engines. |
| 13:29.24 | zenzio | but it's a double-edged sword |
| 13:29.33 | DWSR | Its word permutations that are harder |
| 13:29.34 | zenzio | rarely, but occasionally, you'll want it to not do that |
| 13:29.40 | DWSR | Oh? |
| 13:30.06 | zenzio | I can't recall right now, but I've had it once or twice |
| 13:30.08 | DWSR | Yeah, then just quote the word |
| 13:31.01 | DWSR | Searching is an art form in and of itself. |
| 13:31.59 | DWSR | Btw andchat and ShapeWriter are freaking awesome. |
| 13:36.30 | DWSR | Anyway I'm out. Later. |
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| 14:03.16 | Fisker | olafski |
| 14:03.22 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 14:03.30 | Fisker | saying you move to mac for better security = lie |
| 14:05.10 | Kaso | OSX is often one of the first machines to die in pwn2own contests, once you find an exploit there's less churn and its less likely to stop working if you sit on it for 6 months |
| 14:06.14 | Kaso | that Charlie Miller is a scary mofo |
| 14:06.38 | Wobin | ah the joys of Gnomer |
| 14:06.43 | Wobin | SUPRISE PAIN TRAIN |
| 14:06.53 | industrial | hehe |
| 14:16.12 | mikma | hehe |
| 14:16.26 | mikma | the pretender, miss parker: "that's dr. raines. you got a headache? lobotomize." |
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| 14:17.42 | sioraiocht | Is there a Swedish speaker in the house? |
| 14:18.10 | mikma | knulla min hund |
| 14:18.18 | krka | yes |
| 14:18.29 | sioraiocht | krka: do you mind telling me if two sentences are correct? |
| 14:18.38 | krka | no |
| 14:19.02 | mikma | sioraiocht: try mikk, he's a swede |
| 14:19.09 | sioraiocht | "Jag är inte scandinav. Kan jag komma ändå?" |
| 14:19.42 | krka | "Jag är inte skandinav. Kan jag komma ändå?" |
| 14:19.51 | mikma | i am not scandinavian. can i come in? |
| 14:20.01 | Kalroth | can i come anyways? |
| 14:20.01 | krka | can i come anyway |
| 14:20.04 | sioraiocht | yeah |
| 14:20.06 | Kalroth | or anyway |
| 14:20.08 | sioraiocht | okay, that is correct? |
| 14:20.14 | krka | my version was correct |
| 14:20.25 | sioraiocht | cheers krka |
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| 14:21.12 | krka | why are you trying to crash a scandinavian-only party? |
| 14:21.29 | Kalroth | i bet he's a stalker |
| 14:21.29 | sioraiocht | lär svenska men jag är börjare |
| 14:21.40 | sioraiocht | nybörjare* |
| 14:21.44 | Kalroth | Aha |
| 14:21.54 | mikma | heh |
| 14:21.57 | Kalroth | Next question: why the heck Swedish? |
| 14:21.58 | sioraiocht | also, I am a member of the Scandinavian Society but never go to their events |
| 14:22.01 | sioraiocht | but might come to this one |
| 14:22.03 | mikma | good luck with that shit sioraiocht! |
| 14:22.15 | krka | sioraiocht: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkHRNrMmkvg |
| 14:22.19 | Kalroth | I can't think of a single good reason to speak Swedish other than to tell them to sod off! |
| 14:22.21 | sioraiocht | krka, mikma I already speak Icelandic |
| 14:22.38 | industrial | how's your dutch? :P |
| 14:22.51 | sioraiocht | Kalroth: Ãr du dansk? =p |
| 14:22.53 | mikma | sioraiocht: been busy, heh |
| 14:23.04 | sioraiocht | industrial: non-existent! =) |
| 14:23.04 | krka | sioraiocht: the korrekt term is "danskjävel" |
| 14:23.05 | Kalroth | sioraiocht: Ja :) |
| 14:23.11 | industrial | ;o |
| 14:23.20 | Kalroth | jävle svensken! |
| 14:23.22 | sioraiocht | krka: LOL |
| 14:23.39 | Kalroth | krka er inte jättebra! |
| 14:23.57 | sioraiocht | is amused that jävel was on tyda.se |
| 14:24.13 | krka | also accepted term is "danskfan" |
| 14:24.22 | krka | (less formal) |
| 14:25.11 | sioraiocht | LOL |
| 14:25.25 | sioraiocht | danskfanden in danish, I guess =p |
| 14:26.36 | sioraiocht | (dönskfjandi in Icelandic) |
| 14:27.01 | sioraiocht | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkJf0md1kG8 |
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| 14:29.28 | haste | yay norwegian |
| 14:29.32 | sioraiocht | heheh |
| 14:30.11 | sioraiocht | does enjoy a good "fan" |
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| 14:32.56 | sioraiocht | or "Hvað à fjandanum" |
| 14:35.25 | Shirik | Ok, I have a newly-renewed love for perforce omg |
| 14:35.34 | haste | git! |
| 14:35.39 | Kalroth | hot |
| 14:35.53 | haste | sioraiocht: that one looks odd and sane at once |
| 14:35.59 | Shirik | Shelved changes is so awesome |
| 14:36.02 | sioraiocht | lol |
| 14:36.18 | sioraiocht | haste: Icelandic curses don't sound very strong when you translate them literally |
| 14:36.32 | sioraiocht | the cost of speaking such an archaic-sounding language, I guess |
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| 14:40.29 | sylvanaar_atwork | good morning |
| 14:40.50 | Adys | Shirik: bzr has shelving |
| 14:41.03 | Adys | and git has stashing which works just the same |
| 14:41.05 | Shirik | does it really? |
| 14:41.07 | Adys | yes |
| 14:41.09 | Shirik | and screw git |
| 14:41.10 | Adys | bzr help shelve |
| 14:41.25 | Adys | git help stash |
| 14:41.30 | Shirik | no screw git |
| 14:41.36 | Shirik | however yay for bzr |
| 14:41.40 | Shirik | also winamp has a vulnerability in it lol |
| 14:41.44 | Adys | why screw git? |
| 14:42.13 | Adys | shelving is pretty standard operation in SCMs |
| 14:42.31 | krka | what's the difference between shelving and creating a local branch? |
| 14:42.34 | Adys | svn doesnt fucking count |
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| 14:42.48 | Adys | krka, shelving is simpler really |
| 14:43.16 | Adys | its sort of a stripped down version of branching changes |
| 14:43.45 | Adys | you shelve, it instantly leaves all changes in one single branch which you can access with unshelve |
| 14:44.48 | Adys | instead of create a new branch, push changes to it, checkout master, work on your stuff, push to master, checkout shelve, merge |
| 14:45.39 | krka | i see |
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| 14:47.19 | airtonix | Adys, because it is decidedly un-windows. |
| 14:47.37 | airtonix | Adys, and other obscure shirikisms. |
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| 14:48.43 | Adys | airtonix: what is? |
| 14:48.52 | airtonix | <Adys> why screw git? |
| 14:49.46 | airtonix | Shirik, which version control system are you blessing with your patronage this month ? |
| 14:51.40 | Kalroth | airtonix: a shared folder on a Windows NT 3.51 server |
| 14:52.08 | airtonix | interesting concept. |
| 14:57.24 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/653335320 |
| 14:57.42 | Kalroth | a lua theme! |
| 14:58.19 | Kalroth | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/631256132/g-g-the-book hahaha |
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| 15:18.15 | Adys | Shadowed: PING OMFG |
| 15:29.28 | airtonix | Dagmar, have you had any experience using likewise-open ? |
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| 15:30.51 | cog|work | Fisker: http://fakescience.tumblr.com/post/597833893/how-do-magnets-work |
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| 15:37.10 | airtonix | its a bit beyond his pay grade |
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| 15:38.50 | Lunessa | station |
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| 15:39.53 | airtonix | http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l0czo4s2na1qb25dg.jpg |
| 15:41.11 | MoonWitch | seerah ping |
| 15:41.20 | Seerah | pong |
| 15:41.55 | MoonWitch | how are you doing? less tired? |
| 15:42.06 | Seerah | yeah. still achey :) |
| 15:42.16 | Wobin | heh, one line review of Prince of Persia: "Where are the goddamn Persians?!" |
| 15:42.39 | MoonWitch | at least less tires, its a start |
| 15:43.03 | MoonWitch | tired* |
| 15:43.18 | Seerah | how was work? |
| 15:43.24 | Lunessa | uploads chicken soup and ibuprofen for Seerah |
| 15:43.41 | Seerah | heh, thanks :) |
| 15:43.44 | Seerah | bbl :) |
| 15:43.48 | MoonWitch | onmy way home. irc mobile sucks. |
| 15:44.13 | MoonWitch | lunessa mmmm meds |
| 15:44.48 | haste | connect to his computer over ssh for irc while traveling home. |
| 15:45.02 | Lunessa | I keep a big bottle of ibuprofen in my desk at work. |
| 15:45.10 | airtonix | lol |
| 15:46.29 | MoonWitch | yeah, I need to setup that ssh server. but my pc (irregardless of settings) sleeps fast |
| 15:46.47 | airtonix | ? |
| 15:46.54 | airtonix | whats that got to do with it ? |
| 15:47.17 | MoonWitch | if it sleeps, the mic |
| 15:47.42 | airtonix | mmm |
| 15:47.48 | MoonWitch | nic* is sleepy, thus no connection |
| 15:48.24 | airtonix | can you fix it by using another nic ? |
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| 15:51.09 | zenzelezz | hrm |
| 15:51.33 | zenzelezz | been having odd issues with the net lately. Starting to wonder if it's actually the gateway computer or the decoder box, not the provider |
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| 15:56.58 | cog|work | zenzelezz: skynet, imo |
| 15:57.16 | zenzelezz | could be... I haven't touched either of the two, so they shouldn't have changed |
| 15:59.20 | Lunessa | omg the skynet application has gotten loose! The end is nigh! |
| 15:59.59 | airtonix | for the hills! |
| 16:01.40 | Fisker | slaps Lunessa around a bit with a large trout |
| 16:01.40 | Fisker | slapd |
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| 16:14.51 | Shirik_ | evil C# rule; http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/369xac69(VS.80).aspx |
| 16:15.33 | zenzelezz | I think you accidentally kept writing after the sixth character |
| 16:15.51 | zenzelezz | 7th if you count space |
| 16:16.04 | Shirik_ | lol |
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| 16:16.27 | Lunessa | I submit to you this graph, it explains much: http://graphjam.com/2010/05/29/funny-graphs-boyfriend-dating-me/ |
| 16:17.18 | airtonix | this explains many things about the split personality known as shrisker |
| 16:18.39 | Shirik_ | :/ |
| 16:18.45 | airtonix | lol @ 3rd comment |
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| 16:22.22 | zenzelezz | <Hierarchy of Blame>... I actually like that name |
| 16:27.44 | airtonix | Doesnt the world just implode at the point when something cannot be fixed with duct tape or DW-40? |
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| 16:41.16 | zenzelezz | http://gfx.dagbladet.no/labrador/119/119585/11958555/jpg/active/503x.jpg - this is why you don't keep 10 kg of dynamite in your basement (notice the house in front of the yellow building) |
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| 17:10.05 | MoonWitch | For those who speak Dutch : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jesjKF0KiOM |
| 17:10.10 | MoonWitch | wb Alestane |
| 17:10.41 | alestane | ...I meant to do that. |
| 17:11.11 | Thunder_Child | sure you did |
| 17:11.47 | alestane | Have you EVER seen someone say that meant to do that, that actually meant to do that? |
| 17:12.56 | MoonWitch | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0St6kdNwhM @ alestane This is the ghetto town in Belgium :P |
| 17:13.02 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, but they were saying it ironically :P |
| 17:14.19 | Lunessa | Wait, I meant to do that. |
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| 17:32.04 | Fisker | additional rage spawned |
| 17:32.14 | msoul | sometimes i feel like playing wow again |
| 17:32.31 | cog|work | Fisker: you're a swell guy |
| 17:32.34 | cog|work | I meant to say that |
| 17:33.11 | Fisker | we'll have to wait a week for 3.3.5 |
| 17:33.13 | Fisker | so screw you |
| 17:34.45 | Thunder_Child | waits a week for Fisker |
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| 17:42.46 | Dashkal | O.o a week wait on ruby sanctum? Oh well, at least they didn't tie battle.net to 3.3.3 |
| 17:42.50 | Dashkal | erm, 3.3 |
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| 17:47.01 | alestane | This is frightening: http://notalwaysright.com/unconcentrated-juice/5629 |
| 17:47.09 | Thunder_Child | i'd think it would be more than a week tbh |
| 17:47.26 | Thunder_Child | isnt it the last raid till cata? |
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| 17:50.39 | Dagmar | Thunder_Child: So long as you dont' count Gnomeregan, sure. :) |
| 17:51.09 | Thunder_Child | Dagmar: you talking about the 'event' on the ptr? |
| 17:51.32 | Dagmar | It's on the PTR now? |
| 17:51.40 | Thunder_Child | i think so |
| 17:51.51 | Dagmar | hits up Rapidshare |
| 17:52.39 | Thunder_Child | awww..why did Bibi have to advertise this channel to the masses of fail |
| 17:53.09 | Dagmar | Because we'll be a good influence on those people (with the exception of maybe Fisker) |
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| 18:00.10 | Fisker | Thunder_Child |
| 18:00.22 | Thunder_Child | Fisker |
| 18:00.28 | Fisker | Thunder_Child you misunderstand you stupid piece of shit |
| 18:00.38 | Thunder_Child | i do? |
| 18:00.46 | Fisker | What i meant was that US gets Patch 3.3.5 a week before EU |
| 18:00.55 | Fisker | well 1 week and 1 day i guess |
| 18:01.00 | Fisker | but you get the idea |
| 18:04.21 | Fisker | http://www.computerandvideogames.com/viewer.php?mode=article&id=232225 <-i don't get why you want sunglasses as optical implants |
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| 18:10.55 | MoonWitch | lil question for the fine folks here |
| 18:11.23 | MoonWitch | any brand laptop you completely recommend against?? (my last laptop was an IBM Thinkpad - it's been a while) |
| 18:13.17 | Lunessa | meh, buy on features, components, price. Check for reviews online before purchasing. When in doubt, just get the MacBook Pro. |
| 18:13.33 | MoonWitch | Lunessa: I don't have macbook pro money |
| 18:13.35 | cbreak | I've only seen HP convertible mini-notebook/touch screen things fail a lot. But that was probably the fault of the model series, not a general problem |
| 18:13.46 | MoonWitch | but I need one for the summer |
| 18:13.57 | Fisker | Lunessa you got it wrong |
| 18:13.59 | MoonWitch | my only gaming requirement is 'run wow' |
| 18:14.03 | Lunessa | Fisker: In most Cyberpunk fiction, the the covering was to seal the entire socket and protect the mechanism. Might as well look badass. |
| 18:14.06 | Fisker | it's the macbook he has to stay away from |
| 18:14.15 | MoonWitch | ahem .. she |
| 18:14.37 | MoonWitch | points at her boobs. |
| 18:14.43 | Fisker | nope |
| 18:14.51 | Fisker | men have boobs too |
| 18:14.57 | MoonWitch | ok |
| 18:15.01 | nicoli_s | see: bob with bitch tits |
| 18:15.05 | Lunessa | MoonWitch: You can get some pretty decent stuff from Dell, and I've had poor experiences with HP, but there's nothing out there I'd say "stay away from" |
| 18:15.34 | cbreak | the iPad is en-vogue these days I heard |
| 18:15.38 | Lunessa | Fisker is just being a jerk and hinting that pix or it ain't true. |
| 18:15.40 | MoonWitch | Lunessa: thanks.. we have dell lappies at work and some hp .. struck me that both have a crap load of bloatware (as does Sony) |
| 18:15.52 | MoonWitch | ok, ask Ckknight, he knows what I look like |
| 18:16.01 | MoonWitch | and Seerah has heard me talk |
| 18:16.05 | Fisker | i think you can opt out of crapware now |
| 18:16.13 | Lunessa | MoonWitch: Sony Viao line is nice form-factor for carrying, shitty for comfort. |
| 18:16.16 | cbreak | if you get a mac, they only contain mac os, no bloatware. But you can only get them at apple's prices |
| 18:16.18 | Fisker | no Lunessa i'm just saying i'm never wrong |
| 18:16.37 | MoonWitch | so no sony for me then |
| 18:16.45 | MoonWitch | they look bling, but might be crap :P |
| 18:16.45 | Lunessa | Fisker: You're wrong more often then not. :P |
| 18:17.14 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 18:17.26 | Lunessa | I like the MacBook keyboard for comfortable use. I haven't really like any other laptop keyboards for extended use. |
| 18:17.26 | Dagmar | Bloatware is not an issue if you run Linux, but then again, Mac hardware is generally out too |
| 18:17.40 | zenzelezz | has anyone ever done the Save Ringo quest in Un'goro without thinking of Ringo Starr? |
| 18:17.41 | MoonWitch | well plan is to actually run linux on it |
| 18:17.47 | ckknight | Fisker, I'm getting an Alienware tomorrow. Are you proud yet? |
| 18:17.53 | MoonWitch | (sucks I actually have to pay for windows) |
| 18:17.56 | Fisker | i wouldn't be ckknight |
| 18:18.00 | MoonWitch | ckknight: tell em i am actually female |
| 18:18.06 | MoonWitch | you've seen my pic like a year ago |
| 18:18.15 | Fisker | mac is bad alright, but alienware is right up there |
| 18:18.17 | Lunessa | Then get a dell with lots of RAM and the most powerful video card that doesn't share ram you can get. |
| 18:18.24 | ckknight | MoonWitch: which one are you? |
| 18:18.25 | Shadowed | All I know is your facebook picture is an eye |
| 18:18.26 | ckknight | :P |
| 18:18.31 | cbreak | zenzelezz: I thought of apple |
| 18:18.40 | Shadowed | my assumption is you're a giant eye |
| 18:18.40 | Fisker | oh Shadowed you should so steal that for EA |
| 18:18.42 | MoonWitch | Shadowed: how do you know my facebook again? |
| 18:19.00 | Shadowed | someone mentioned it in staff |
| 18:19.02 | zenzelezz | cbreak: that's interesting. How come? |
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| 18:19.21 | MoonWitch | ckknight: I am the fat chick with long brown hair, who said she was too ashamed to show her picture, but did anyhow in pm to you |
| 18:19.28 | MoonWitch | (and that sounded so damn wrong) |
| 18:19.29 | ckknight | oh yea |
| 18:19.29 | MoonWitch | hey tek |
| 18:19.33 | ckknight | I remember you |
| 18:19.45 | Fisker | in the mountains? |
| 18:19.54 | Lunessa | ... ... totally not touching that |
| 18:20.01 | MoonWitch | it was in the phase that so many folks spammed you with hate stuff :( |
| 18:20.02 | Shadowed | IN THE MOU---wait |
| 18:20.02 | nicoli_s | with how long a pole? |
| 18:20.19 | cbreak | zenzelezz: because of ææª |
| 18:20.31 | Fisker | MoonWitch we always hated ckknight |
| 18:20.41 | MoonWitch | Fisker: no we don't |
| 18:21.03 | haste | cbreak: mmm, apples |
| 18:21.27 | Fisker | :( MoonWitch |
| 18:21.28 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 18:21.35 | ckknight | well, if I insulted you somehow, I don't remember. |
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| 18:21.55 | MoonWitch | ckknight: you didn't insult, quite the contrary |
| 18:22.02 | ckknight | k |
| 18:22.07 | MoonWitch | you actually made me feel better :) |
| 18:22.11 | ckknight | hehe |
| 18:22.15 | MoonWitch | oh god |
| 18:22.25 | ckknight | you need more self-esteem, btw |
| 18:22.28 | ckknight | you're never "fat" |
| 18:22.44 | ckknight | you're "shapely" or "BBW" or something along those lines |
| 18:22.56 | MoonWitch | for those thinking gutter stuff --- those 2 sentences was how he achieved the "feeling better" |
| 18:22.59 | MoonWitch | three* |
| 18:23.14 | Dagmar | Get a hobby that involves burning a lot of calories |
| 18:23.16 | ckknight | :P |
| 18:23.18 | cbreak | zenzelezz: ringo is japanese for "apple". One of the few words I can remember... :) |
| 18:23.26 | Lunessa | ckknight is a nice fellow, but has trouble doing shots without making faces. |
| 18:23.31 | MoonWitch | well I plan on becoming a nympho for a while :) |
| 18:23.36 | nicoli_s | making faces? |
| 18:23.40 | ckknight | Lunessa: yea, I still can't, really... |
| 18:23.40 | Shadowed | haha |
| 18:23.41 | Dagmar | Actually, I've seen that work before |
| 18:23.45 | Shadowed | I heard ckk got rather drunk |
| 18:23.48 | MoonWitch | it burns more calories than most sports |
| 18:23.50 | Shadowed | but I left before seeing more during the dinner |
| 18:23.51 | nicoli_s | no not ckknight |
| 18:23.54 | nicoli_s | he never drinks |
| 18:23.57 | ckknight | :P |
| 18:23.58 | nicoli_s | not never |
| 18:23.58 | Shadowed | :> |
| 18:24.04 | Lunessa | It was his birthday at BC last year, so we were trying to get him drunk with shots of 15q1 |
| 18:24.07 | Lunessa | 151 |
| 18:24.09 | ckknight | oh yea |
| 18:24.11 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 18:24.11 | ckknight | Bacardi 151 |
| 18:24.13 | ckknight | good times |
| 18:24.15 | ckknight | everyone excited for BlizzCon? |
| 18:24.16 | nicoli_s | and he certainly never says "you dont know me" |
| 18:24.23 | DWSR | Hey all |
| 18:24.24 | ckknight | and people still interested in having dinner sometime? |
| 18:24.24 | Lunessa | He was ... feeling no pain at the end of dinner |
| 18:24.36 | MoonWitch | next year, I'll be there too :) |
| 18:24.38 | nicoli_s | i may be gracing yall with my blizzcon presence this year :) |
| 18:24.42 | Shadowed | I forgot did I meet you Lunessa |
| 18:24.49 | Shadowed | MoonWitch you mean this year? |
| 18:24.53 | MoonWitch | no next |
| 18:24.56 | Shadowed | ahh |
| 18:25.08 | Lunessa | Yeah, at the end of dinner. I was the bald guy standing next to you and Antiarc. |
| 18:25.09 | MoonWitch | this year I'll still be recovering from surgery and workload after surgery recovery lol |
| 18:25.13 | Shadowed | oh right |
| 18:25.23 | cbreak | I am more excited about WWDC |
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| 18:25.44 | MoonWitch | so out of curiosity, at bc - do you guys call eachother by nickname? |
| 18:25.54 | MoonWitch | hi Jonathan |
| 18:25.55 | ckknight | Xtek and I sat with Lunessa |
| 18:25.59 | Shadowed | it was rather confusing |
| 18:26.01 | nicoli_s | i demand to be called sanktanglia there |
| 18:26.05 | Lunessa | I wore an MMOUI shirt with my nick on it. |
| 18:26.05 | Shadowed | I tend to switch between real name and nicknames |
| 18:26.12 | ckknight | I expect to be called "ck" or something along those lines |
| 18:26.14 | ckknight | that works for me |
| 18:26.16 | ckknight | :P |
| 18:26.25 | MoonWitch | I'd call you The Knight |
| 18:26.29 | MoonWitch | or just Cameron |
| 18:26.38 | ckknight | lousy |
| 18:27.10 | ckknight | lousy Christian names |
| 18:27.10 | ckknight | shakes fist |
| 18:27.10 | MoonWitch | at least you're remember me then :P |
| 18:27.10 | nicoli_s | i guess ill have to just be nic |
| 18:27.10 | nicoli_s | there better not be another |
| 18:27.10 | MoonWitch | you'd be like "oh aren't you the chick I beat up?" |
| 18:27.12 | jnwhiteh | I'm either 'Clad' or 'Jim' |
| 18:27.29 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:27.39 | MoonWitch | most say moonie or kay :) |
| 18:27.40 | Fisker | btw Lunessa geek! |
| 18:27.41 | Shadowed | clad missed last year :( |
| 18:27.53 | jnwhiteh | did I? |
| 18:27.55 | Lunessa | You can't miss Jim. He's the only one of us with real upper-body definition. |
| 18:27.55 | jnwhiteh | oh yes, I did. |
| 18:28.04 | jnwhiteh | did I? |
| 18:28.07 | jnwhiteh | no, I was there, wasn't I? |
| 18:28.09 | Shadowed | You were but then you ended up not being able to go |
| 18:28.13 | Shadowed | pretty sure |
| 18:28.18 | Shadowed | I know you weren't at the UI dinner |
| 18:28.20 | jnwhiteh | There are pictures of me there |
| 18:28.22 | jnwhiteh | yeah I wasn't |
| 18:28.28 | Lunessa | You were. I didn't see you at the dinner, but I sat next to you at one of the pannels. |
| 18:28.30 | jnwhiteh | but I held the sign at the opening ceremonies |
| 18:28.32 | jnwhiteh | lemme find it =) |
| 18:28.45 | Shadowed | Ah yea, I only saw dev people once or twice in blizzcon |
| 18:28.48 | MoonWitch | I persoanlly wanna meet Tek -- just want to know if he's so scary irl as well |
| 18:28.48 | Shadowed | that explains it |
| 18:28.56 | Shadowed | tekkub is perfectly lovable |
| 18:29.02 | Lunessa | He' |
| 18:29.07 | MoonWitch | yeah that's why Seerah says |
| 18:29.15 | Lunessa | He's louder here than in person. So I am given to understand. |
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| 18:29.39 | MoonWitch | well, based on the pictures I've seen of him, he's like a big teddybear :) |
| 18:29.57 | jnwhiteh | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/d3821d7332dfd39d34cad32f261f49ba.jpg |
| 18:30.10 | MoonWitch | that you? |
| 18:30.16 | nicoli_s | yay i is an addon author :) |
| 18:30.21 | jnwhiteh | no, some other douche in a green shirt |
| 18:30.25 | jnwhiteh | the green shirt was clutch by the way |
| 18:30.27 | mikma | lol, assless chaps |
| 18:30.31 | jnwhiteh | there were under 10 people at the whole con using it. |
| 18:30.33 | jnwhiteh | err |
| 18:30.35 | Shadowed | haha |
| 18:30.35 | jnwhiteh | wearing green |
| 18:30.36 | Shadowed | nice jnwhiteh |
| 18:30.37 | MoonWitch | yeah I'd be sitting there |
| 18:31.28 | mikma | nice armhair, gorilla |
| 18:31.44 | jnwhiteh | mikma: said the albino freak with no hair :P |
| 18:31.50 | Lunessa | You didn't stay long last year, did you jnwhiteh? Something about "plans with non-geek friends" |
| 18:32.02 | jnwhiteh | Lunessa: yeah I was there to visit my fiancé's family |
| 18:32.02 | mikma | have you even seen my latest photo??? |
| 18:32.19 | Shadowed | Did you buy a hat |
| 18:32.25 | mikma | i've got a shitloads of tan cause i do outwork now xD |
| 18:32.26 | jnwhiteh | and show my friend Rhi around |
| 18:32.26 | jnwhiteh | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/87d4efc26b3e848b18ac426bf65f46f2.jpg |
| 18:32.38 | Lunessa | I need a new hat. The one I wore last year is trashed. |
| 18:32.40 | Shadowed | What's your t-shirt say |
| 18:32.41 | jnwhiteh | HoN |
| 18:32.41 | jnwhiteh | brb |
| 18:32.47 | Shadowed | The internet something something so I thought I'd come outside |
| 18:32.51 | nicoli_s | ill be like one of the only hippies there |
| 18:32.55 | nicoli_s | or so id imagine |
| 18:33.19 | MoonWitch | nicoli_s: don't worry |
| 18:33.29 | MoonWitch | I'll hippie along happily :) |
| 18:33.52 | nicoli_s | i mean i know its cali, so theres bound to be hippies around, but still |
| 18:34.00 | Lunessa | I don't know that I ended up in any photos from last year. |
| 18:34.02 | nicoli_s | itll be nice to have the 4 months to continue to grow my hair out |
| 18:34.18 | MoonWitch | depends on which hair you're growing |
| 18:34.20 | MoonWitch | >.< |
| 18:34.23 | nicoli_s | lol |
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| 18:35.22 | MoonWitch | hey sylv |
| 18:35.31 | Fisker | btw i hate you nicoli_s |
| 18:35.35 | nicoli_s | why? |
| 18:35.45 | Fisker | you're US |
| 18:35.49 | MoonWitch | comforts nicoli_s |
| 18:35.51 | Fisker | so you get 3.3.5 a week before us |
| 18:35.55 | MoonWitch | Fisker: where are you from then? |
| 18:35.57 | nicoli_s | so? i dont play wow :P |
| 18:35.59 | Fisker | also they fucked up battle.net :( |
| 18:36.17 | nicoli_s | ive moved on to the next great blizz thing: sc2! |
| 18:36.18 | Fisker | it's unbelievable that they could even manage to do that |
| 18:36.26 | Fisker | s/great// |
| 18:36.33 | Fisker | fixed unfortunately |
| 18:36.41 | nicoli_s | dude sc2 is fucking great |
| 18:36.50 | nicoli_s | people have done such amazing things with the map editor |
| 18:36.55 | nicoli_s | and i suck royally and its still so much fun |
| 18:37.08 | nicoli_s | and i have plenty of new things to reverse, so im quite pleased overall |
| 18:37.32 | Fisker | nicoli_s haven't you seen how they botched it up? |
| 18:37.46 | Fisker | sure singleplayer will probably be great |
| 18:37.50 | Fisker | but that's about it i guess |
| 18:38.38 | mikma | jnwhiteh: hey, sasquatch! http://www.facebook.com/Kumiukko?v=photos#!/photo.php?pid=3948463&id=718124708 |
| 18:38.46 | nicoli_s | i know lots of people who think otherwise |
| 18:38.59 | Fisker | mikma that's facebook |
| 18:39.11 | mikma | no shit, fisker |
| 18:39.16 | Fisker | i find that hard to believe nicoli_s |
| 18:41.30 | Fisker | regionlocked maps, regionlocked friendslists, no unique names, storage limits that make the idea of "modding" laughable, not to mention that the netcode is fucked as far as triggers are concerned |
| 18:41.39 | nicoli_s | maps arent region locked |
| 18:41.47 | mikma | fiskerdin is |
| 18:41.53 | Fisker | sure they are nicoli_s |
| 18:42.04 | nicoli_s | and i most people i know think that taking away the stupid 2 part name was a good move |
| 18:42.19 | Fisker | that wasn't what i was talking about |
| 18:42.21 | nicoli_s | and they havent even said if the storage limits are final or not |
| 18:42.34 | nicoli_s | i was addressing the no unique names part |
| 18:42.36 | Fisker | they've had more than a week to say if they were now |
| 18:42.38 | Fisker | yes |
| 18:42.46 | Fisker | you don't need 2-part names to have unique names |
| 18:43.29 | NeoTron | nicoli_s: the two part name was good since it allowed you to have 1) unique name, 2) unique name without having an rtard name like FooBar123 |
| 18:43.46 | Fisker | anyway my biggest upset is region-locked friends |
| 18:43.47 | nicoli_s | meh, i just found it to be annoying more than anything else |
| 18:43.51 | NeoTron | not having unique names is just fucking annoying shit |
| 18:44.01 | Dagmar | The people making ftard names do so because they're people who make ftard names. |
| 18:44.05 | NeoTron | no way to add a friend without sharing your email AND login |
| 18:44.06 | NeoTron | great |
| 18:44.08 | Dagmar | They'd still do it if you could have five names |
| 18:44.39 | Dagmar | NeoTron: So make another gmail account to use as your login |
| 18:44.58 | Fisker | The worst part is that i think they'll just make map publishing a premium feature |
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| 18:45.16 | NeoTron | Dagmar: you miss the point |
| 18:45.24 | NeoTron | I share my LOGIN regardless |
| 18:45.24 | Fisker | The 10MB limit, 5 maps per account, and 20 MB total is probably the basic version |
| 18:45.32 | NeoTron | using the LOGIN as a fricking key you share with friends is stupid |
| 18:46.02 | NeoTron | considering how much issues they have with hacking, who the hell thought using your login name as a key to share with friends was good? |
| 18:46.09 | Dagmar | Well, yeah that's terrible. Everyone's friends always want to steal each other's accounts. |
| 18:46.19 | Dagmar | It's worse than giving it to strangers |
| 18:46.48 | Dagmar | Before you go panning, take a look at _use cases_ |
| 18:47.18 | Dagmar | Your _friends_ generally already _know_ your email address. |
| 18:47.40 | MoonWitch | mine don't |
| 18:47.41 | Dagmar | ...and a signon name is not supposed to be the _secret_ part of login credentials |
| 18:47.47 | MoonWitch | but that's cuz I don't have friends |
| 18:47.48 | Dagmar | That's what the fucking password is for |
| 18:49.11 | Lunessa | Friends? You don't have any? Seriously, I call bullshit. :P |
| 18:49.23 | Arrowmaster | its actually suggested for companys to not make the employee signin name the same as the employee email |
| 18:49.28 | cbreak | Dagmar: do you think the same about bank account numbers? Credit card numbers? :) |
| 18:49.34 | MoonWitch | I have a tun of nice folks I know :) |
| 18:49.50 | Dagmar | cbreak: Don't even start. I make my living at this sort of thing |
| 18:50.01 | MoonWitch | naah just kidding, I call a lot of folks friend, got a lot of love to share |
| 18:50.09 | cbreak | you're the first card skimmer I meet. |
| 18:50.11 | cbreak | greetings :) |
| 18:50.12 | MoonWitch | Dagmar: I am curious now, what do you do for work? |
| 18:50.26 | Dagmar | It drives me nuts when people take a sane security model, try to twist it sideways, and then complain they broke it |
| 18:50.48 | Dagmar | Moonwitch: Currently I am slacking off a network operations center. From 1999 to 2004 or so I was doing nothing but computer security |
| 18:51.09 | Dagmar | That "hat" was on my head from 1997 to 1999 as well |
| 18:51.29 | MoonWitch | so I should ask you to teach me then |
| 18:51.36 | MoonWitch | I work as tech for an antivirus company |
| 18:51.43 | Dagmar | I still wind up hollering at about a dozen places a year about incredibly stupid things they're doing |
| 18:52.07 | Dagmar | Like, if you order pizza online, have you ever seen your credit card number autocomplete in the text box for it? |
| 18:52.18 | Dagmar | That's because no one over there has been beaten to death for violating PCI |
| 18:52.30 | cbreak | isn't that browser cache? |
| 18:52.39 | Dagmar | Yes. |
| 18:52.53 | Arrowmaster | the site can tell the browser to never cache a certain field |
| 18:52.55 | Dagmar | ...and they're *supposed* to set a particular field on *that* text box |
| 18:53.01 | cbreak | I just pay cash... credit cards are not that popular here in switzerland |
| 18:53.02 | MoonWitch | every time i close browser -> auto clear cache |
| 18:53.25 | Arrowmaster | Dagmar: my college website has that problem |
| 18:53.47 | Dagmar | Banks actually told NCSA and the NEtscape people to fuck right off with their talk of online banking until they added that particular attribute to the input boxes |
| 18:54.09 | Dagmar | Visa literally made the sign of hte L |
| 18:55.04 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: I'll go dig up chapter and verse on that later this week and get it to you |
| 18:55.21 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 18:55.46 | Lunessa | People think, "I'm the only one who uses my computer, stuff on here is safe!" NOT. Reading the cache and cookies is trivial. |
| 18:56.12 | MoonWitch | well, even with scanners firewall and all that crap I thought my shit was safe too |
| 18:56.17 | Dagmar | There are *multiple* worms rolling around the internet right now, that the very first thing they do is scrape the cache |
| 18:56.23 | MoonWitch | I've kinda given up on the entire safety thing |
| 18:56.57 | Arrowmaster | whattheinternetknowsaboutyou.com |
| 18:57.18 | Dagmar | There's this cute little program they're making people use at work now called Identity Finder |
| 18:57.35 | Dagmar | You could see some people turn white as a sheet after running it |
| 18:58.05 | Dagmar | ...because if you've ordered online from just *one* sloppy website, your browser cache generally has enough in it for someone to go and immediately buy stuff with your money. |
| 18:58.23 | cbreak | luckily, browser caches are local |
| 18:58.30 | cbreak | so you'd need a local exploit to use them |
| 18:58.34 | cbreak | or user stupidity |
| 18:58.43 | Dagmar | Enter from stage left, russian criminal enterprises that make worms that scrape the browser cache. |
| 18:58.52 | Arrowmaster | local exploits include things run inside a browser though |
| 18:59.19 | Dagmar | cbreak: Mainly you just need to use IE |
| 18:59.37 | cbreak | the last IE on my platform, 5.5, was canceled ages ago |
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| 19:19.22 | NeoTron | Dagmar: the problem is Dagmar, that even if friends know your email, it might not be the email you use for your login |
| 19:19.49 | NeoTron | Dagmar: and there's (currently) no way to add someone as a friend without the email - I know people that do not know my email which I would like to add withotu sharing that piece of information |
| 19:20.21 | Dagmar | So make a gmail account just for that then |
| 19:20.24 | NeoTron | Dagmar: and seriously, you out of anyone, should recognise that although login name isn't inheritedly secret, it typically is and is part of the protection of an account |
| 19:20.49 | cbreak | I use a fresh e-mail address for every contact. |
| 19:20.52 | Dagmar | There is no such thing as a "partial secret" |
| 19:20.57 | Dagmar | Any attempt to have one will fail. |
| 19:20.58 | cbreak | so I can close them when I get spam to them. |
| 19:21.09 | NeoTron | people not knowing my login name protects the account better than just a fricking password |
| 19:21.11 | Shadowed | errr |
| 19:21.12 | Shadowed | what |
| 19:21.25 | Shadowed | The username is security in the same way putting a note over a keyhole is security |
| 19:21.27 | NeoTron | if I gave you my login, you would be one step closer to the account |
| 19:21.52 | Shadowed | Provided you aren't doing something like, making your Q/A your username |
| 19:21.54 | Dagmar | If you kept the username a secret, there would be no way to contact CS if you lost your account |
| 19:22.00 | Dagmar | Not without giving up *other* secrets |
| 19:22.09 | NeoTron | it's not like a unix login / email combo here |
| 19:22.20 | NeoTron | people know your login by virtue of you using it for sending emails |
| 19:22.30 | Dagmar | ...or get a bloody authenticator |
| 19:22.41 | Dagmar | Two-factor authentication beats using the *same* factor twice |
| 19:23.04 | NeoTron | there's no explicit need to share login name for services where the login isn't used as your email |
| 19:23.10 | cbreak | keeping e-mail addresses private is reasonable |
| 19:23.18 | cbreak | it's not that they are secret |
| 19:23.23 | cbreak | but you don't want the wrong people to know them |
| 19:23.28 | Dagmar | Someone's getting private and secret confused |
| 19:23.36 | NeoTron | it's entirely unnecessary to use emails for this and it was a bad design choice |
| 19:23.56 | cbreak | using e-mail addresses for login isn't that bad himho |
| 19:23.59 | NeoTron | Cryptic designed their system correctly |
| 19:24.04 | cbreak | but using them as ID to add friends was braindead |
| 19:24.05 | Dagmar | 1. email addresses are already going to be, by definition, unique |
| 19:24.18 | NeoTron | they have a "forum name" which is NOT the login name, but which is your unique global identifier (shared between STO and CO) |
| 19:24.24 | cbreak | Dagmar: so are login names. |
| 19:24.33 | Dagmar | Login names are not automatically unique |
| 19:24.45 | cbreak | they are the primary key of the user database |
| 19:24.52 | cbreak | it wouldn't work well if they weren't unique |
| 19:24.55 | NeoTron | cbreak: using them for login is fine since I can always create a new email for that purpose a long. Using it also as your identifier is bad |
| 19:25.06 | Dagmar | ...because users expect that they're going to be able to "get" a particular username when they're allowed to pick |
| 19:25.06 | cbreak | NeoTron: exactly. |
| 19:25.10 | NeoTron | Dagmar: foo.bar is in fact quite unique |
| 19:25.34 | NeoTron | Dagmar: that's like the entire reason for username.domain - you get the name you want, while keeping it unique |
| 19:25.42 | zenzelezz | this sounds a lot like you're going in circles |
| 19:25.51 | Dagmar | There will be no *confusion* to the user about which username they might have used with this particular service because it's their email |
| 19:26.33 | Shadowed | Using the email as a way of adding people to RealID makes perfect sense |
| 19:26.33 | NeoTron | Dagmar: what is your email for wow? Can I also get all your other user names for all services you're signed up to? I mean not like it's secret right? |
| 19:26.42 | Dagmar | Being that there's a relationship between Blizz and the user, merely considering it private is sufficient |
| 19:26.45 | Shadowed | Using your account id is flat out stupid |
| 19:27.00 | Shadowed | and it's a lot harder to let people use their character names since it's going to be across games |
| 19:27.00 | NeoTron | Shadowed: using the email as login or real friend is fine. using it for both is a bad design |
| 19:27.01 | cbreak | Dagmar: it's not between blizz and the user |
| 19:27.05 | Dagmar | NeoTron: Like about a jillion other people, it's the same as my email address |
| 19:27.07 | cbreak | it's between unrelated users |
| 19:27.13 | Shadowed | I'm not really sure what you're trying to say |
| 19:27.23 | Shadowed | If you're relying on your email for security, you are doing something wrong |
| 19:27.31 | cbreak | what's your e-mail address dagmar? I want to play an SC2 match against you |
| 19:27.33 | Dagmar | They're not unrelated if you're formally declaring them to be your friend |
| 19:27.40 | NeoTron | I prefer my login name to be my own |
| 19:27.43 | NeoTron | that's it |
| 19:27.54 | Shadowed | And if you're adding them to RealID, you are doing it because you know them |
| 19:27.54 | Dagmar | So make a freaking second email account and you can treat that address like a secret all youw ant |
| 19:27.55 | NeoTron | I don't want to give everyone I want to be friends with my login name |
| 19:28.05 | Shadowed | Don't add them as a RealID friend then? |
| 19:28.07 | NeoTron | and this is not "friends" per se, but people I know which are not really friends, just people I know |
| 19:28.11 | Shadowed | You are not forced into this system |
| 19:28.14 | Dagmar | Draw some freaking venn diagrams already |
| 19:28.19 | Shadowed | if you don't want to give out your email, don't use realid |
| 19:28.20 | NeoTron | Shadowed: see there's no way to add people without real id |
| 19:28.24 | cbreak | Dagmar: the purpose of becoming friends is building a relationship. If they were related, they would not need it |
| 19:28.25 | Shadowed | Then don't use it? |
| 19:28.28 | NeoTron | Shadowed: unless you randomly play with them in a game |
| 19:28.29 | Shadowed | Or suck it up and give them your email |
| 19:28.30 | Arrowmaster | hell i have two steam accounts because the first one is from back when login names had to be email addresses and could not be changed |
| 19:28.38 | Dagmar | cbreak: But Blizz doesn't know that |
| 19:28.46 | cbreak | anyway |
| 19:28.50 | cbreak | wanna play a match against me? |
| 19:28.52 | Dagmar | You're essentially being asked to prove to them that there *is* a relationship between you |
| 19:28.55 | Dagmar | Otherwise, spammers. |
| 19:29.04 | NeoTron | cbreak: I can't, since I don't know your email and you don't know mine,. right? |
| 19:29.05 | Dagmar | cbreak: I don't have the beta |
| 19:29.17 | NeoTron | it might be temporary |
| 19:29.21 | cbreak | NeoTron: I won't tell you my e-mail address. |
| 19:29.23 | NeoTron | you used to be able to add friends using login.domain |
| 19:29.25 | NeoTron | now you can't |
| 19:29.33 | NeoTron | if it's a design choice that you can't, I'm against it |
| 19:29.40 | Dagmar | Just don't post it cleartext in here because bots and logs and Google |
| 19:29.56 | cbreak | it wasn't .domain |
| 19:30.01 | NeoTron | there has to be a way to add a friend without playing a game with them (randomly - you can't invite people without being friends) or using real id |
| 19:30.01 | cbreak | it was more surname.familyname |
| 19:30.19 | Shadowed | You aren't forced into using RealID thought, there is a reason the system is a "Real Life Friend" system thought |
| 19:30.24 | cbreak | NeoTron: it's myspace |
| 19:30.29 | Shadowed | NeoTron you realize they disabled that to test RealID, yes? |
| 19:30.35 | Shadowed | It's not going to stay like that |
| 19:30.46 | NeoTron | Shadowed: I never saw any note saying that that is what they did |
| 19:30.54 | NeoTron | I hope it is but is theer a blue post stating it? |
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| 19:31.01 | Shadowed | It's beta |
| 19:31.21 | Shadowed | Anything you see should pretty much be taken with a grain of salt |
| 19:31.24 | NeoTron | right but it wouldn't be the first time a later build removed something from an earlier build and didn't bring it back |
| 19:31.57 | NeoTron | I'm really only arguing against requiring real id to be friends with someone and I'm aware it might be temporary |
| 19:31.58 | Lunessa | LOL: http://textsfromlastnight.com/Text-Replies-17271.html |
| 19:32.28 | NeoTron | but if they don't add unique names back in, it wouldn't work |
| 19:32.34 | NeoTron | so I hope the .domain thing comes back |
| 19:32.36 | Shadowed | sighs |
| 19:32.51 | cbreak | they could do it the /. or icq way |
| 19:32.56 | p3lim^ | lvl 29 alliance, what is the best place to level besides early stv and duskwood? |
| 19:33.01 | p3lim^ | (those two are finished) |
| 19:33.02 | cbreak | give everyone a serial number |
| 19:33.18 | cbreak | p3lim^: what level is gadgezan? |
| 19:33.23 | p3lim^ | 40+ |
| 19:33.27 | cbreak | hmm. |
| 19:33.32 | NeoTron | cbreak: well random number, fine, but serial like icq and slashdot - no thanks :P |
| 19:33.36 | cbreak | ashenvale is probably too low |
| 19:33.39 | p3lim^ | yep |
| 19:33.39 | alestane | I like http://textsfromlastnight.com/Text-Replies-17325.html , Lunessa. |
| 19:33.41 | p3lim^ | 20ish |
| 19:34.00 | Lunessa | alestane: No one ever brings me brownies like that. |
| 19:34.03 | cbreak | the area east of ashenvale which no one enters unless he has to get a new quintessence or the class quest? |
| 19:34.12 | cbreak | hmm, no, that's 50 |
| 19:34.16 | p3lim^ | azshara? |
| 19:34.18 | cbreak | desolance |
| 19:34.19 | p3lim^ | yeah thats 50+ |
| 19:34.24 | cbreak | right, that's what I meant p3 |
| 19:34.29 | cbreak | but desolance is maybe right. |
| 19:34.36 | p3lim^ | desolace is 2 quests or something, then I have to find a new place |
| 19:34.41 | p3lim^ | (kelkars and stuff) |
| 19:34.45 | p3lim^ | desolace is 35+ |
| 19:34.47 | cbreak | sure? |
| 19:34.51 | p3lim^ | yeah |
| 19:34.52 | p3lim^ | quite |
| 19:34.53 | cbreak | I did lots of quests there some time ago |
| 19:34.57 | cbreak | maybe horde has less |
| 19:35.07 | cbreak | but alliance has a quest hub |
| 19:35.08 | p3lim^ | horde is not the same as alliance :) |
| 19:35.21 | p3lim^ | yeah, its a bit too high (orange/red mobs) |
| 19:35.51 | cbreak | hinterlands maybe |
| 19:35.54 | p3lim^ | also a bit too far, got no flightpoints whatsoever in kalimdor |
| 19:36.01 | p3lim^ | hinterlands is 40+ |
| 19:36.02 | NeoTron | p3lim^: southshore |
| 19:36.10 | cbreak | southshore is for pvp |
| 19:36.12 | p3lim^ | ss is 20ish |
| 19:36.15 | NeoTron | for alliance |
| 19:36.18 | NeoTron | it's 30s |
| 19:36.20 | NeoTron | for horde it's 20s |
| 19:36.25 | p3lim^ | you mean arathi highlands? |
| 19:36.31 | NeoTron | no I mean southshore |
| 19:36.33 | p3lim^ | :s |
| 19:36.36 | NeoTron | arathi is more like 25s |
| 19:36.38 | NeoTron | 35 I mean |
| 19:36.42 | p3lim^ | gotta check it out then |
| 19:36.44 | p3lim^ | thanks :) |
| 19:36.53 | NeoTron | it's part of the fun with horde/alliance in that area |
| 19:37.02 | NeoTron | alliance players are 5-10 levels higher |
| 19:37.11 | p3lim^ | pvp server :) |
| 19:37.13 | cbreak | I got thousands of HKs in SS vs TM fights |
| 19:37.20 | cbreak | and I am on a PvE server |
| 19:37.23 | cbreak | good old times... |
| 19:37.47 | NeoTron | basically the western area is mid/low 20s while the eastern area are high 20s/low 30s |
| 19:38.05 | NeoTron | and the quests to go up in arathi mountains too with yeti's and crap in the level 34-36ish range |
| 19:38.39 | olafski | alterac* |
| 19:38.51 | NeoTron | I remember back in beta, I was grinding yeti's in the mid 30s to kill the rare spawn yeti for loot... think level 30 was max level at that point |
| 19:38.56 | NeoTron | indeed, that |
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| 19:58.26 | myrkraverk | from wowwiki: Region:SetParent(parent or "parentName") - Set the parent for this frame - Moevd in 1.10. |
| 19:58.32 | myrkraverk | does this mean the function is no longer there? |
| 19:59.40 | cbreak | they probably mean "Moved" |
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| 20:00.58 | myrkraverk | Hmm, ok |
| 20:01.12 | myrkraverk | Let's see what happens when I try to use it ;-P (if applicable) |
| 20:02.12 | jnwhiteh | myrkraverk: don't use wowwiki |
| 20:02.16 | jnwhiteh | !api SetParent |
| 20:02.16 | lua_bot | Found 3 possible results for 'SetParent': Region:SetParent, ControlPoint:SetParent, Animation:SetParent |
| 20:02.21 | jnwhiteh | !api Region:SetParent |
| 20:02.22 | lua_bot | Region:SetParent: Makes another frame the parent of this region (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Region/SetParent) |
| 20:02.25 | jnwhiteh | it's there =) |
| 20:02.31 | myrkraverk | nice, great |
| 20:05.11 | *** join/#wowuidev dusky (~me@bas5-sudbury98-1176146475.dsl.bell.ca) |
| 20:06.32 | cog|work | Fisker: http://translationparty.com/#7452195 |
| 20:07.19 | Fisker | cog|work |
| 20:07.21 | Fisker | i love you |
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| 20:13.16 | Fisker | hey cog|work |
| 20:13.27 | cog|work | no u |
| 20:14.41 | Fisker | oh |
| 20:14.42 | Fisker | fuck you then |
| 20:15.24 | Thunder_Child | ~cackle |
| 20:15.25 | purl | ACTION cackles |
| 20:15.36 | Fisker | hey Thunder_Child |
| 20:15.50 | Thunder_Child | heya Fisker |
| 20:16.08 | Fisker | i'm not agreeing |
| 20:16.58 | Fisker | i will kill you though |
| 20:17.25 | Fisker | hey |
| 20:17.52 | KarlKFI|work | i crashed this twisted party: http://translationparty.com/#7452315 |
| 20:18.12 | nevcairiel | rofl |
| 20:18.15 | nevcairiel | awesome |
| 20:21.50 | Arrowmaster | i just get the main page from that link |
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| 20:24.53 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik_] by ChanServ |
| 20:25.01 | Fisker | slaps Shirik_ around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:25.50 | Lunessa | KarlKFI|work: Sick, twisted, and socially irresponsible - I knew there were reasons I liked you. |
| 20:26.02 | KarlKFI|work | ;) |
| 20:26.03 | Shirik_ | ohi |
| 20:26.31 | Arrowmaster | this looks so bad its awesome http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJDq9LD7ww8 |
| 20:28.54 | zenzelezz | http://clientsfromhell.net/post/654030254/client-i-would-like-to-commission-you-to-draw-a |
| 20:29.34 | Arrowmaster | rofl |
| 20:30.21 | KarlKFI|work | lol |
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| 20:32.33 | olafski | that can't be real |
| 20:35.03 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: That does, in fact, look awesome. |
| 20:35.45 | Arrowmaster | and its from the shaun of the dead/hot fuzz director |
| 20:36.13 | Lunessa | Yeah. Both of which made me laugh way harder than I expected. |
| 20:40.46 | Antiarc | The MMO-C forums are hilarious |
| 20:41.01 | Antiarc | "Yeah well, HudMap is just like AVR if you point the camera straight down and scale it to be on top of players!" |
| 20:41.12 | Antiarc | ....duh? Congrats, you just invented 2D. |
| 20:41.24 | Allara | haha |
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| 20:44.30 | alestane | "If we're going to date, you *may* have to defeat my seven evil exes." ROFL. |
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| 20:45.55 | Lunessa | Seriously: Suddenly everyone has powerful Kung-Fu and superpowers. AWESOME. |
| 20:46.01 | Lunessa | never plans to grow up. |
| 20:46.07 | Seerah | nope nope |
| 20:46.49 | alestane | Getting older is mandatory...growing up is entirely optional. |
| 20:47.22 | Lunessa | Evidenced by the fact that I'm 40, collect action figures, play WoW and still successfully date. :P |
| 20:47.50 | alestane | How exactly does one date *unsuccessfully*? |
| 20:47.53 | Seerah | those things aren't mutually exclusive? |
| 20:49.29 | nevcairiel | alestane: one person leaves in the first 10 minutes |
| 20:50.07 | Lunessa | Seerah: You're living proof that geekery and romance are not impossible mixes. :P |
| 20:50.29 | Lunessa | alestane: I have stories. I'll tell them to you over drinks sometime. |
| 20:50.29 | cbreak | Hmm... I am Division Rank 0 in SC2 |
| 20:50.44 | cbreak | in the "Undefin" bracket |
| 20:51.18 | Seerah | Lunessa: :) |
| 20:53.44 | Lunessa | It rubs the lotion on it's skin... |
| 20:54.13 | Lunessa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ToNZHG5KHw |
| 20:54.19 | alestane | http://www.somethingpositive.net/sp06092002.shtml ...is this successful or unsuccessful dating? |
| 20:54.30 | Arrowmaster | is in neither the successful or unsuccessful dating category |
| 20:55.13 | Lunessa | alestane: That's in the OMFG LOL category. |
| 20:55.23 | Seerah | alestane: unsuccessful, I would think... |
| 20:55.37 | alestane | Although of course, there is the question of "for whom." |
| 20:55.42 | Seerah | yep |
| 20:55.44 | Seerah | there is that |
| 21:00.17 | Arrowmaster | a 'date' means not at your place or at their place right? |
| 21:00.33 | Seerah | not necessarily |
| 21:01.29 | ckknight | dates can be at another's place, though I tend to have them start somewhere else and potentially end up back at one of our respective places |
| 21:04.36 | Arrowmaster | i can probably count the number of dates ive had that involved a location other than my place or her place on one hand |
| 21:04.56 | ckknight | do you not date much? |
| 21:05.13 | Arrowmaster | i havent had a date since 05 |
| 21:06.09 | Arrowmaster | like i said, neither successful or unsuccessful category |
| 21:06.37 | Arrowmaster | needs to get out of the shit hole that is Ohio |
| 21:08.28 | myrkraverk | Hmm, I need to get a date too - any female in here in reykjavik willing to date? |
| 21:09.13 | myrkraverk | (I guess that's a no) |
| 21:10.54 | ckknight | protip: don't meet girls on IRC |
| 21:11.13 | Thunder_Child | i have met at least 3 girls on IRC |
| 21:12.05 | Thunder_Child | granted they were all at blizzcon |
| 21:12.34 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45DFVyriVI0 |
| 21:13.10 | Lunessa | And Arrowmaster I thought you had a steady>? |
| 21:13.29 | Arrowmaster | back in 05 i did |
| 21:14.00 | Lunessa | Ah. See, I'm a terrible internet friend. I can remember which consoles you play, but not that you're single. |
| 21:14.20 | Thunder_Child | it's not like we talk about relationships much here |
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| 21:19.30 | foxlit | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtgDFmcQWp4 << damn lies :*( |
| 21:20.21 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Lunessa: all internet friends are terrible |
| 21:20.23 | NightHawkTheSan1 | most real ones are too. |
| 21:20.40 | Lunessa | Nick issues? |
| 21:21.01 | Arrowmaster | all my real life ones moved away |
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| 21:23.01 | Arrowmaster | heads off to class |
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| 21:28.47 | Kraps | I believe that every paper in the country should have one headline that when you read it, you laugh so hard you can't stand it. It has to be that way. What about a headline like this: 'Hippo Eats Dwarf'? How good is that? You read that headline, and you immediately close the paper and say, 'Wow, it's gonna be a great day.' |
| 21:29.07 | Kraps | --Lewis Black |
| 21:31.24 | Fisker | btw nicoli_s |
| 21:31.25 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-r_uCaFxg8&feature=player_embedded |
| 21:35.04 | Kraps | Reminder: BlizzCon 2010 tickets on sale tomorrow, June 2 |
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| 21:39.12 | Fisker | care |
| 21:40.09 | Adys | Maldivia: ping? |
| 21:40.14 | Kraps | internet stream ftw |
| 21:41.40 | Fisker | internet stream wat? |
| 21:42.29 | Kraps | blizzcon |
| 21:44.19 | Adys | So who's coming to blizzcon? |
| 21:44.36 | ckknight | <-- |
| 21:44.45 | ckknight | a bunch of Curse people are gonna try to go |
| 21:45.45 | Fisker | yeah Kraps but what's that got to do with tomorrow? |
| 21:45.46 | Kraps | hmm http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=128252 |
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| 21:46.03 | Kraps | your mom |
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| 21:50.49 | Lunessa | I'm planning to camp tickets. |
| 21:53.57 | MoonWitch | next year when i am a skinnier chickette :) |
| 21:54.14 | MoonWitch | So Cairenn will like me ;) |
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| 22:02.53 | Lunessa | needs a vacation. |
| 22:03.37 | Fisker | slaps Lunessa around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:04.04 | NightHawkTheSan1 | needs a very, very, very large drink |
| 22:04.32 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSan1: Pan-Galactic Gargle-Blaster. |
| 22:04.46 | NightHawkTheSan1 | i could do with one of those, hold the lemon. |
| 22:05.05 | Lunessa | Drink up. |
| 22:07.11 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5551650/mass-effects-citadel-is-made-from-lego/gallery/ |
| 22:09.00 | ArrowmasterClass | yes that is awesome |
| 22:09.06 | ArrowmasterClass | almost linked it earlier but had to leave |
| 22:14.16 | Lunessa | Mmmm... making custom ringtones for my iPhone is so easy now. Pretty soon, I won't know who they ringtones are for anymore. |
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| 22:33.18 | Thunder_Child | make em obvious |
| 22:34.02 | Thunder_Child | you can make em disturbing and obvious |
| 22:34.50 | Seerah | Lunessa: will you even know that it's your phone ringing? ;P |
| 22:35.32 | Lunessa | Seerah: Yes. Though I suppose giving every ex "Crazy Bitch" as a ring tone says something about me. |
| 22:35.42 | Thunder_Child | thats why he should make recording in his own voice and use them, like "your mother is calling, press ignore" |
| 22:35.42 | Seerah | hehe |
| 22:37.46 | Lunessa | Pink Flyod's song "Mother" would make a good ring tone.... " |
| 22:40.02 | MoonWitch | CAIRENN! |
| 22:40.10 | Cairenn | hey sexy |
| 22:40.17 | MoonWitch | hey babe ;) |
| 22:40.30 | MoonWitch | goes to shower and sleep now |
| 22:40.35 | MoonWitch | I am happy :) |
| 22:40.45 | MoonWitch | (and I just finished my nails -- 2 damn hours) |
| 22:40.55 | Fisker | bitchduck |
| 22:41.18 | MoonWitch | ~slap fisker |
| 22:41.18 | purl | ACTION slaps fisker, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 22:41.31 | MoonWitch | that was SO the wrong random one purl |
| 22:42.02 | MoonWitch | wow you're back fast Allara |
| 22:42.05 | MoonWitch | 10 seconds |
| 22:42.28 | Allara | heh that was my client, marked me away automatically just as I returned |
| 22:42.33 | MoonWitch | ah |
| 22:42.37 | MoonWitch | wb then :) |
| 22:42.41 | Allara | thanks :p |
| 22:42.43 | MoonWitch | anyhow -- I am out :) |
| 22:42.49 | MoonWitch | had an exhausting class about regex |
| 22:43.20 | Fisker | i will destroy you |
| 22:43.42 | MoonWitch | Fisker, you can't destroy me.. |
| 22:43.48 | NightHawkTheSan1 | Lunessa: your exes call you enough to warrant a ringtone? :P |
| 22:43.52 | MoonWitch | I know more about SM than you do. |
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| 22:44.03 | Fisker | oh ok MoonWitch |
| 22:44.21 | Lunessa | MoonWitch: No, actually I get so few calls that I have several months worth of rollover minutes. |
| 22:44.35 | Lunessa | Er, NightHawkTheSane not MoonWitch |
| 22:44.40 | MoonWitch | yeah thought so |
| 22:44.44 | MoonWitch | I was like .. wut? |
| 22:45.02 | NightHawkTheSane | heh |
| 22:45.08 | Fisker | i am bored btw |
| 22:45.11 | Fisker | what about you Thunder_Child ? |
| 22:45.24 | MoonWitch | play with yourself, problem of boredness solved |
| 22:46.05 | MoonWitch | and I curse HP ProBooks, looking all sexy and stuff, but when you get to the graphics card .. they're all like " nnooo no linux" |
| 22:46.23 | Fisker | linux? |
| 22:46.32 | MoonWitch | yes |
| 22:46.37 | Fisker | is that a new brand of graphics cards? |
| 22:46.56 | MoonWitch | pats Fisker. |
| 22:46.59 | MoonWitch | yes, yes it is |
| 22:52.07 | Thunder_Child | mmm...goldfish is tasty |
| 22:53.14 | Lunessa | The title alone makes this worht reading: http://www.wired.com/autopia/2010/06/driving-distraction-survey/ |
| 22:53.49 | Fisker | i goldfished you Thunder_Child |
| 22:53.55 | Thunder_Child | mmmm |
| 22:54.24 | Fisker | yep |
| 22:54.28 | Fisker | goldfish'd |
| 22:56.33 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa: honestly all cars should jam cell freq's when moving with the exception of the built in phone connection. |
| 22:56.48 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: What about passengers? |
| 22:57.09 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa: allow for multiple connections |
| 22:57.11 | Lunessa | And do you just want to make the cabin a big faraday cage? |
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| 22:57.35 | Thunder_Child | not that extreme....though that would be nifty |
| 22:58.12 | Thunder_Child | and it would make it easy, engine on, it has power, engine off, it doesnt |
| 23:03.09 | Lunessa | http://graphjam.com/2010/05/31/funny-graphs-facebook-users-500-friends/ |
| 23:03.24 | Shadowed | sorry that graph is inaccurate |
| 23:03.34 | Shadowed | it's missing the "People I've never met but my friend knows them so they decided to friend me" |
| 23:03.58 | Lunessa | Shadowed: I know, right? Pretty soon that'll be Battle.net RealID |
| 23:04.15 | Thunder_Child | also missing "people i'm stalking" |
| 23:06.46 | miica | if i got table something like this {["JOO"] = "JEE", ["JAA"] = "JUU"} and i wanna delete one entry :o |
| 23:06.59 | miica | but table.remove don't work or i am using it wrong |
| 23:07.00 | Lunessa | I stalk many channel regulars on Facebook. It's almost creepy. |
| 23:07.33 | NightHawkTheSane | its only almost creepy because actually creepy is that you're not JUST stalking them on facebook. ;) |
| 23:08.02 | miica | Lunessa: next step is get phone number and make calls :O |
| 23:08.14 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn is already there |
| 23:08.43 | Lunessa | Actually, I have a number of people's number from last year - texting was king for finding people at BlizzCon last year. |
| 23:08.46 | Cairenn | :p |
| 23:09.08 | Lunessa | Also, some people left their numbers out in the open. |
| 23:09.50 | NightHawkTheSane | it's that way at any con. one second you turn your head to look at something, and next half the people you were with have disappeared! |
| 23:10.25 | NightHawkTheSane | and you're like "oh, so-and-so has a really distinctive costume, itd be impossible to lose him" or something, but no, they disappear like ninjas. |
| 23:10.32 | Lunessa | Seriously. I was standing in line for the swag shop with Gazmik and 4 others, turned to look at the display, and they disappeared! |
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| 23:11.47 | ArrowmasterClass | miica: table.remove is only for arrays |
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| 23:15.22 | NightHawkTheSane | http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2010/06/01/the-internet-as-a-force-for-meaningful-change |
| 23:15.37 | NightHawkTheSane | agrees with the conclusion of that article |
| 23:16.20 | Lunessa | "I would say that the good guys won this one, but the problem is that no matter how the cheese is arranged, you're still eating a goddamned Subway sandwich. " |
| 23:16.40 | WobWork | I... uh.. wow... http://www.blingforjesus.com/ |
| 23:20.09 | olafski | not very pretty |
| 23:20.18 | olafski | they should do some higher end stuff |
| 23:29.43 | Kraps | can you get afk kicked out of WG? |
| 23:30.10 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 23:30.19 | Kraps | lame |
| 23:30.42 | Thunder_Child | not really |
| 23:30.45 | Thunder_Child | you shouldnt be afking |
| 23:31.05 | Kraps | no u |
| 23:31.17 | Lunessa | When in doubt, AFK out. |
| 23:31.19 | Thunder_Child | i dont |
| 23:32.51 | Kraps | our server is awesome Lunessa |
| 23:33.06 | Kraps | we crush WG |
| 23:33.29 | Lunessa | Kraps: I *hate*hate*hate* WG |
| 23:34.20 | Thunder_Child | so does ours, it's 10K+ wins on to hundreds |
| 23:35.03 | Thunder_Child | s/on// |
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| 23:39.46 | foxlit | "... in August, 1973 when an armed Swedish robber took some bank workers captive, held them for six days and stole their hearts." |
| 23:39.51 | foxlit | beautifully phrased. |
| 23:40.03 | Kraps | foxlit: stop that |
| 23:40.21 | ArrowmasterClass | stockholm syndrome? |
| 23:40.26 | Shadowed | Literally stole their hearts |
| 23:40.28 | Shadowed | or stockholm |
| 23:40.40 | ArrowmasterClass | ok gtg |
| 23:40.42 | foxlit | It's figurative. |
| 23:40.46 | Shadowed | that's disappointing |
| 23:40.50 | Shadowed | literally would be a pretty good ending |
| 23:44.31 | foxlit | Which is why the phrasing is awesome <3 |
| 23:49.30 | Lunessa | Yeah, but what are you going to do with 6 hearts that will rot and stink within hours? |
| 23:49.34 | DWSR | Hey. |
| 23:50.24 | DWSR | How's everyone? |
| 23:51.53 | |Jelly| | tired and hungry (this might be a delayed reaction) |
| 23:52.09 | NightHawkTheSane | sober. :( |
| 23:52.23 | Lunessa | Ditto. |
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| 23:53.44 | DWSR | Lol tired and hungry sounds about where I'm at. |
| 23:54.07 | DWSR | Just got home from work. |
| 23:56.07 | Lunessa | Ok, I'm out. Take care. |
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