| 00:01.26 | airtonix | should of bought a droid |
| 00:01.32 | Jerub | yes |
| 00:02.08 | Thunder_Child | touch not phone |
| 00:02.19 | airtonix | why gimp yoruself ? |
| 00:02.29 | airtonix | let teach you the kings engrish |
| 00:02.39 | airtonix | i accidentally the book |
| 00:02.40 | Thunder_Child | no monthly costs |
| 00:02.41 | daev` | Isn't pretty much every all-in-one product pretty shitty? |
| 00:02.52 | airtonix | lol |
| 00:03.12 | daev` | Should be able to get music support through other players |
| 00:03.13 | airtonix | i dont have to jump through hoops to get a custom app on a droid |
| 00:03.20 | daev` | But you're stuck with it for apps :( |
| 00:03.55 | airtonix | what languages do you use to create apps on a touch/iphone ? |
| 00:04.14 | Jerub | airtonix: objective-c |
| 00:04.16 | Jerub | or objective-c |
| 00:04.19 | airtonix | lulz |
| 00:04.33 | Jerub | or, if you're tricky, you can use objective-c. |
| 00:04.47 | airtonix | wuite a wide wange |
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| 00:13.24 | airtonix | http://www.talkandroid.com/1225-android-scripting-environment/ |
| 00:14.07 | NeoTron | you can also use c/C++ with only small stubs in obj-c |
| 00:14.17 | airtonix | anything else ? |
| 00:14.20 | NightHawkTheSane | you can also use JS/HTML5/CSS |
| 00:14.42 | airtonix | an how do you get that stuff to appear as an app on your iphone without jailbreaking it ? |
| 00:15.22 | NeoTron | well it could I suppose be an app that just wraps webkit |
| 00:15.27 | NeoTron | or just an ordinary webpage |
| 00:15.29 | airtonix | i mean it should be as simple as connecting the device by usb cable or wifi and just drag n drop files to a folder. |
| 00:15.31 | NightHawkTheSane | http://italkmagazine.com/how-use-iphone-itouch-web-app |
| 00:15.46 | airtonix | meh i dont want to remotely access something |
| 00:15.54 | airtonix | i awnt the app to be on the device |
| 00:16.01 | NightHawkTheSane | that depends on the app |
| 00:16.12 | NightHawkTheSane | you can write an app that's entirely just local code |
| 00:16.47 | airtonix | and how you do you get the code onto the iphone ? |
| 00:17.26 | NightHawkTheSane | http://sixrevisions.com/web-development/html5-iphone-app/ seriously, google this shit |
| 00:18.23 | Jamash | do you have a mac? |
| 00:18.29 | airtonix | no |
| 00:18.30 | Jamash | because there's no iphone dev kit for windows |
| 00:18.39 | airtonix | well there you go |
| 00:18.40 | airtonix | fail |
| 00:18.47 | airtonix | why do i need that ? |
| 00:18.58 | airtonix | why SHOULD i need that |
| 00:19.17 | NightHawkTheSane | because you're using their api? |
| 00:19.28 | airtonix | because it should already be on the phone |
| 00:19.32 | Jamash | the iphone dev kit contains the compilers and libraries and tools and stuff |
| 00:19.41 | NightHawkTheSane | you dont actually need a mac to dev html5 web apps though |
| 00:19.41 | Jamash | things you need to develop software but not to run it |
| 00:19.50 | airtonix | sounds like creating java apps for old mobiles all over |
| 00:20.00 | NightHawkTheSane | sounds like creating any app for any platform, ever |
| 00:20.02 | NightHawkTheSane | this is not a new thing |
| 00:20.04 | Jamash | ^ |
| 00:20.23 | NightHawkTheSane | you dont buy a windows box at best buy and just start writing robust .net applications |
| 00:20.33 | NightHawkTheSane | you need the framework, ide, compilers, etc. |
| 00:20.58 | airtonix | no but creating apps for phones is more obtuse and difficult. i remember that one phone company wanted me to pay a subscription before i was allowed to get the devkit |
| 00:21.07 | NightHawkTheSane | not really, no |
| 00:21.16 | Jamash | I said to myself "self, I'd like to learn how to write a phone app" and I looked at apple's tools, which only run on a mac, and I looked at google's tools, which run anywhere |
| 00:21.17 | *** join/#wowuidev WobNet (~Ben@goethe.phm.gov.au) |
| 00:21.20 | airtonix | i dont windows full stop |
| 00:21.33 | WobNet | is at webcamp |
| 00:21.35 | NightHawkTheSane | creating an app for the iphone is fiarly similar to developing an app for the mac os, which isn't too disimilar to creating any app |
| 00:21.41 | WobNet | nice way to spend a friday |
| 00:22.11 | MoonWitch | I see someone isn't AFK anymore *sly wink @ Cairenn* |
| 00:22.15 | airtonix | from what i see creating apps for the droid is much easier |
| 00:22.18 | ZorbaTHut | nighthawk, that's true iff you're using x-code |
| 00:22.19 | Cairenn | purrs at MoonWitch |
| 00:22.26 | ZorbaTHut | if you're not, making an iphone app is a stone bitch |
| 00:22.41 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: i wager making a .net app without VS is probably a bitch too. |
| 00:22.56 | airtonix | if you depend on gui ide |
| 00:22.56 | ZorbaTHut | Actually, you'd be surprised. Most compiler frameworks make it pretty easy to do CLI building |
| 00:23.06 | Thunder_Child | hmm, battle.net has new ToU |
| 00:23.07 | ZorbaTHut | I haven't touched .net since 1.0, but back then it was pretty trivial to do. |
| 00:23.07 | WobNet | that's more about the IDE than anything though, no? |
| 00:23.18 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: i know xcode supports cli building as well |
| 00:23.19 | Jerub | i want my 3.3.5 :( |
| 00:23.32 | WobNet | depends on the complexity of the project |
| 00:23.37 | ZorbaTHut | not if you want to use your own build tools - actually figuring out the commands to run is Extremely Difficult |
| 00:23.37 | NightHawkTheSane | or at least, its possible to build iphone apps via an automated cli process |
| 00:23.39 | WobNet | simple stuff, sure |
| 00:23.46 | ZorbaTHut | and some of them aren't even provided in CLI form, you have to hack around them |
| 00:24.21 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: *shrug* i haven't tried, i just know at work we use automated builds/continuous integreation to build iphone apps |
| 00:24.25 | ZorbaTHut | xcode provides "xcodebuild" which just does everything for you, but if you want more control over the process and to run all the individual steps yourself, you're in for a lot of pain. |
| 00:24.38 | ZorbaTHut | More so than on any other platform I've used. |
| 00:24.50 | ZorbaTHut | it's possible you're just using xcodebuild, if you don't have any tricky build steps. |
| 00:24.54 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: that's really aside the original point, was that the big-picture view, is basically teh same. |
| 00:25.12 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont do the actual iphone dev, so I couldn't say for sure :\ |
| 00:25.34 | ZorbaTHut | It's basically the same if you're already using xcode. If you don't use xcode, iphone apps are far more difficult. That was my rebuttal to your point. :) |
| 00:25.53 | NightHawkTheSane | why you wouldn't use xcode is beyond me, though ;) |
| 00:26.10 | ZorbaTHut | I like having a unified build system that behaves approximately the same on all platforms |
| 00:26.19 | airtonix | i used to have an ipod gen 5, first thing i did was remove the apple os and put rockbox on it so i wasn't requried to use itunes. |
| 00:26.26 | ZorbaTHut | since xcode doesn't exist on windows, linux, and android, I obviously can't use xcode for that. |
| 00:26.34 | Kraps | i thought Halion is a chick |
| 00:27.03 | ZorbaTHut | Therefore, to avoid having to maintain two entirely separate build systems, I don't use it on OSX either. |
| 00:27.53 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: hm, i can see some value there, but i have to wonder if it's more of a headache to deal with that, than it is to deal with maintaining two build system |
| 00:27.55 | NightHawkTheSane | s |
| 00:28.02 | Kraps | does FoK boost your single-target dps? |
| 00:28.08 | WobNet | this ^ |
| 00:28.16 | airtonix | dragging and dropping a lua file via usb host mounting is a headache ? |
| 00:28.23 | NightHawkTheSane | (not to say you're wrong, what works for you works for you..) |
| 00:28.23 | ZorbaTHut | nighthawk, the first implementation is a hell of a headache |
| 00:28.29 | ZorbaTHut | once you've gotten that working, though, it's joy to work with. |
| 00:28.41 | ZorbaTHut | it's a pretty standard work-up-front-vs-recurring-work tradeoff. I tend to prefer work-up-front. |
| 00:29.10 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: well, i dont know how much actual recurring work would be required, is all. |
| 00:29.14 | ZorbaTHut | That said, I never did get my iphone layer working (though this is because I stopped midway through when apple changed their policies, not because I ran into something unsolvable.) |
| 00:29.29 | airtonix | does the iphone/touch still obscure the music on it with random filenames like the ipod did ? |
| 00:29.31 | ZorbaTHut | I tweak my build system somewhat regularly. It would be a significant amount, for me at least. |
| 00:29.31 | NightHawkTheSane | from my own, limited, experience, it hasn't been terribly painful. |
| 00:29.39 | Kraps | Vodka wiping on H Ruby Sanctum |
| 00:29.50 | ZorbaTHut | Keep in mind I've got a build system that allows me to bake datafiles and generate a full installer with a single command, though |
| 00:29.51 | NightHawkTheSane | but again, that comes down to individual setup/requirements differences, i guess |
| 00:29.58 | ZorbaTHut | I've got this streamlined far beyond what most people do. |
| 00:30.22 | ZorbaTHut | literally, I check out the source repo, type "./Den package", walk away for five minutes, and I've got a complete installer package. |
| 00:30.53 | Kraps | i love how quickly they are ready to go after a wipe |
| 00:30.56 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: yeah, we have something similar setup |
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| 00:40.42 | *** join/#wowuidev Shirik (~mpdelbuon@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik) |
| 00:40.42 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 00:41.10 | Kraps | SHIRIK |
| 00:41.15 | Shirik | KRAPS |
| 00:41.37 | Kraps | HAI |
| 00:41.39 | Shirik | HAI |
| 00:42.14 | Shirik | (17:40:43)  -⺠Quit: Shirik (~mpdelbuon@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik) (Excess Flood) |
| 00:42.19 | Shirik | it is really odd seeing yourself quit |
| 00:44.27 | NeoTron | stop spamming! |
| 00:45.28 | cog|work | spam; spam & eggs; spam & toast; spam, spam, & egg; |
| 00:45.42 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/25026576099/but-underwater-is-not-fun/ |
| 00:45.47 | Kraps | NO |
| 00:45.51 | Kraps | YOU FAIL |
| 00:46.23 | Shirik | :( what did I do? |
| 00:46.35 | NeoTron | to be fair, Champions Online underwater zone Lemuria showed a lot of the problems with such a zone |
| 00:46.58 | NeoTron | namely that a truly 3D environment is challenging to navigate |
| 00:47.01 | cog|work | am i remembering this correctly? log_a(x)/log_a(b) = log_b(x) |
| 00:47.28 | NeoTron | distances are hard to judge, and finding things can be difficult if the height dimension is fully utilized |
| 00:47.50 | NeoTron | so I'm sort of wondering where they will go with that - I hope they played Lemuria in CO for reference.. |
| 00:47.51 | Amarande | Neo: which is probably also the problem people have with Oculus, too |
| 00:47.59 | NeoTron | likely |
| 00:48.17 | NeoTron | except that oculus adds the 4th dimension too - odd vehicle that's not "me" |
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| 00:49.24 | AbsolutRayne | Om nom, all beef hotdogs |
| 00:50.22 | cog|work | "I am not sure a fumble this late in an MMO's life cycle will be recoverable" |
| 00:50.24 | cog|work | >< |
| 00:50.35 | cog|work | "an mmo"... |
| 00:51.13 | Amarande | cog: there will probably be conspiracy theories about deliberate fumbles in WoW after their next MMO project is released ... |
| 00:51.17 | Shirik | cog|work |
| 00:51.24 | Shirik | a^b = c |
| 00:51.33 | Shirik | blna = lnc |
| 00:51.37 | Shirik | b = lnc / lna |
| 00:51.40 | Amarande | like how many on Battle.net insisted that the reason Blizzard didn't do enough to deal with dupes and bots in Diablo II was because they wanted people to be unhappy with D2 so that they would move on to WoW |
| 00:52.37 | Shirik | log_a(c) = b |
| 00:52.42 | Shirik | log_a(c) = lnc / lna |
| 00:53.01 | cog|work | scratches his head |
| 00:53.07 | cog|work | wher'd b go |
| 00:53.13 | Shirik | b = b |
| 00:53.21 | Shirik | log_a(c) = b = b = lnc / lna |
| 00:53.35 | Shirik | log_a(c) = b was by definition |
| 00:53.44 | cog|work | o Amarande threw me off i r teh sooooolw |
| 00:54.42 | cog|work | and given that i r teh sooooolw, is that a "yes" or a "no"? |
| 00:54.46 | cog|work | >< |
| 00:55.24 | cog|work | (paying attention to too many things at once imo) |
| 00:55.45 | Shirik | ? |
| 00:55.49 | Shirik | yes or no to what? |
| 00:56.04 | cog|work | "am i remembering this correctly?" |
| 00:57.42 | Cide | Shirik: what? |
| 00:57.45 | Shirik | um |
| 00:58.24 | Shirik | wait |
| 00:58.27 | Shirik | what |
| 00:58.30 | Cide | what are you even typing? |
| 00:58.31 | Shirik | you did something completely different |
| 00:58.33 | Cide | logarithm stuff |
| 00:58.46 | Cide | and when can you play sc2? |
| 00:59.07 | Shirik | I don't think that's right cog|work, but really I ahve no idea |
| 00:59.11 | Shirik | Cide: When I get settled in :( |
| 00:59.21 | Cide | ok well |
| 00:59.24 | Cide | it closes down in 2 days! |
| 00:59.34 | Shirik | :( |
| 00:59.39 | Shirik | well then we can play when it comes out |
| 00:59.52 | Cide | assuming it allows cross-region play |
| 01:00.50 | cog|work | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_logarithmic_identities#Changing_the_base |
| 01:01.37 | cog|work | wins |
| 01:01.51 | Cide | uh |
| 01:01.54 | cog|work | (or is lysdexic) |
| 01:01.56 | Cide | everyone should know that :P |
| 01:02.07 | cog|work | ~lart Shirik |
| 01:02.07 | purl | accelerates a free AOL cd to 50,000 rpm and lets Shirik feel it |
| 01:02.17 | Cide | at least every engineer! |
| 01:02.40 | cog|work | inc plane crash |
| 01:02.43 | cog|work | :> |
| 01:02.53 | Cide | "oops, we bisected the angle in base e" |
| 01:02.59 | *** join/#wowuidev Alishar (~crazyjeff@S010690e6ba04f09d.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 01:03.12 | Shirik | oh btw |
| 01:03.22 | Amarande | ... maybe that's why goblin engineering isn't fully reliable |
| 01:03.30 | Shirik | I got a new laptop from work today |
| 01:03.42 | Shirik | I can safely say it destroys any desktop I have ever worked on |
| 01:03.46 | Cide | really |
| 01:03.49 | Cide | what laptop? |
| 01:04.00 | cog|work | i know... those light up crayons are going to turn intelligent and start dishing out government propaganda to 5 year olds... |
| 01:04.03 | Shirik | well I don't know the model number |
| 01:04.10 | Shirik | ....... cog|work I don't work at crayola anymore >< |
| 01:04.18 | Shirik | I haven't for 2 years |
| 01:04.20 | cog|work | but you did... you did...... |
| 01:04.25 | Shirik | I work at Insitu now |
| 01:04.29 | cog|work | /tinfoilhat |
| 01:05.06 | Amarande | cog, have you ever checked out the Warehouse 23 Basement at Steve Jackson Games' site? :) |
| 01:05.24 | cog|work | have i whozit the what now? kids these days... |
| 01:05.28 | cog|work | >< |
| 01:06.09 | Shirik | Cide |
| 01:06.12 | Cide | yup |
| 01:06.16 | cog|work | i still haven't played through doom 3, kotor, tft, SC, DII |
| 01:06.24 | Shirik | it's a dell :( |
| 01:06.25 | Cide | you haven't played through DII |
| 01:06.26 | Shirik | but |
| 01:06.28 | Cide | jesus |
| 01:06.30 | Shirik | that's ok |
| 01:06.43 | Cide | better than an acer I think |
| 01:06.45 | Shirik | dell makes good corporate stuff |
| 01:06.45 | Cide | I mean |
| 01:06.50 | Cide | my girlfriend's acer is great |
| 01:06.57 | Cide | but it comes preinstalled with literally over 100 shit programs |
| 01:06.58 | cog|work | Cide: yes, focus is one thing i greatly need >< |
| 01:07.06 | Shirik | mine came preinstalled with nothing |
| 01:07.08 | Shirik | literally |
| 01:07.12 | Cide | yeah |
| 01:07.14 | Cide | acer sucks that way |
| 01:07.21 | airtonix_ | Amarande, what is a dupe ? |
| 01:07.25 | Shirik | dell actually lets you have them preinstall linux now |
| 01:07.26 | cog|work | Shirik: how much did you pay for that privilege? ;) |
| 01:07.26 | Cide | uninstalling them took over an hour |
| 01:07.32 | Shirik | cog|work: $0? |
| 01:07.37 | Shirik | The company bought it |
| 01:07.44 | Cide | and they paid millions! |
| 01:07.44 | Jerub | if i gain xp at the same rate as i gain rested, how long does a level take? |
| 01:07.45 | cog|work | not you personally |
| 01:07.49 | Shirik | oh I don't know |
| 01:08.00 | Shirik | oh |
| 01:08.04 | Shirik | and I have determined I need to get a smartcard |
| 01:08.22 | Shirik | my laptop can do three-piece security, fingerprint+smartcard+password |
| 01:08.27 | Shirik | but I have no smartcard :( |
| 01:08.35 | Cide | you sure are paranoid |
| 01:08.45 | cog|work | no he's just an ubergeek |
| 01:08.49 | Shirik | ^ |
| 01:09.01 | cog|work | should learn the u umluat |
| 01:09.07 | airtonix_ | Shirik, they've provided that for at least two to three years now |
| 01:09.08 | cog|work | (sp?) |
| 01:09.14 | Shirik | airtonix_: But I actually HAVE it now |
| 01:09.16 | Cide | übergeek |
| 01:09.27 | cog|work | ~lart my font |
| 01:09.27 | purl | says "boot to the head" and knocks my font over |
| 01:09.32 | airtonix_ | Shirik, they also created their own version of kickstart |
| 01:09.38 | Amarande | airtonix: dupes are items duplicated by hacking |
| 01:09.44 | Cide | oh crap |
| 01:09.46 | Amarande | Diablo 2 was extremely rife with them |
| 01:09.52 | Cide | no A on my physics final :( |
| 01:09.59 | Cide | where is Legorol when I need him |
| 01:10.05 | cog|work | odd... courier new should have that one... |
| 01:10.11 | cog|work | (and really consolas should too) |
| 01:10.13 | Shirik | here Cide |
| 01:10.16 | Shirik | let me put the specs together |
| 01:10.18 | Shirik | we can find out how much it cost |
| 01:10.22 | cog|work | Ã |
| 01:10.27 | cog|work | ~fail Cide |
| 01:10.28 | purl | Cide, you Fail! |
| 01:10.34 | Cide | looks fine here |
| 01:10.39 | cog|work | ü |
| 01:10.41 | Cide | and I made a lowercase ü |
| 01:10.42 | *** join/#wowuidev WobNet (~Ben@goethe.phm.gov.au) |
| 01:10.43 | Cide | not Ü |
| 01:10.59 | Cide | then again my client seems to fail with UTF-8 as Shirik can testament to |
| 01:11.02 | cog|work | yours looks like a square to me: � |
| 01:11.21 | cog|work | mine both look correct |
| 01:11.26 | cog|work | tome |
| 01:11.30 | cog|work | +space |
| 01:11.36 | Cide | well irc doesn't do a round trip for you |
| 01:11.46 | Cide | so you have no idea if your client just doesn't handle incoming data incorrectly :P |
| 01:11.54 | Cide | but I think the problem is indeed at my end in this case |
| 01:12.13 | cog|work | wtb objective input >< |
| 01:13.51 | Cide | yeah wtf |
| 01:13.55 | Cide | wake up Shirik |
| 01:14.00 | Shirik | ? |
| 01:14.06 | Cide | read above |
| 01:14.26 | Amarande | "Menudo is a soup made with beef tripe, tendons and hominy." |
| 01:14.31 | airtonix | ð |
| 01:14.33 | Amarande | TL;DR version: "Menudo is nasty." |
| 01:14.39 | Shirik | um |
| 01:14.41 | cog|work | Amarande: do want |
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| 01:14.46 | Shirik | no, cog|work did an uppercase U |
| 01:14.56 | airtonix | ä |
| 01:14.57 | Shirik | wait the second one was lowercase |
| 01:14.59 | cogwheel | and shortly thereafter a lowercase |
| 01:14.59 | Cide | and I did a proper U with two dots above it? |
| 01:15.06 | Shirik | yes |
| 01:15.08 | Cide | HA |
| 01:15.12 | cogwheel | O.o |
| 01:15.16 | Shirik | wait |
| 01:15.17 | Shirik | where? |
| 01:15.28 | Cide | like Ä but for U |
| 01:15.30 | Shirik | (18:09:04) (+Cide) übergeek |
| 01:15.31 | Shirik | ? |
| 01:15.33 | Cide | yes |
| 01:15.37 | cogwheel | eenteresting |
| 01:15.38 | Cide | Ü |
| 01:15.40 | Cide | ü Ü |
| 01:15.46 | cogwheel | from cide it's a box |
| 01:15.49 | Shirik | lol |
| 01:15.55 | Shirik | because Cide doesn't know how to do UTF-8 |
| 01:15.59 | Shirik | or |
| 01:16.01 | Cide | but it works for you? |
| 01:16.02 | Shirik | wait no the other way around? |
| 01:16.03 | cogwheel | so how do you see it then? |
| 01:16.05 | cogwheel | Cide: no |
| 01:16.10 | Cide | it works for Shirik* |
| 01:16.15 | Shirik | My client reads both formats |
| 01:16.18 | Shirik | we had this happen yesterday |
| 01:16.28 | Shirik | Cide and someone else weren't seeing the same character |
| 01:16.33 | Shirik | but when I copy-pasted it, it worked fine |
| 01:16.33 | Cide | kalroth |
| 01:16.36 | Thunder_Child | so on this question of what race am i there are two that stand out, 'Decline to answer' and 'Choose not to disclose'. it seems od that you have both of those choices. |
| 01:16.37 | airtonix | ZorbaTHut, http://www.phonegap.com/ |
| 01:16.43 | Thunder_Child | odd* |
| 01:16.45 | Shirik | because my client re-encodes it into UTF-8 |
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| 01:17.37 | cogwheel | wouldn't there be ambiguities in trying to figure out which encoding something is in? |
| 01:18.00 | Amarande | "wonderful" and "connective tissue" are not compatible in a sentence |
| 01:18.03 | Amarande | GRISTLE IS NASTY |
| 01:18.12 | airtonix | but essential |
| 01:18.21 | Jamash | would you rather not have any connective tissue? |
| 01:18.25 | airtonix | without it you grind and dry out |
| 01:18.31 | Amarande | we need to find some way to grow cow meat in a lab without gristle |
| 01:18.38 | airtonix | that would be nasty |
| 01:18.44 | cogwheel | nah i'd try it |
| 01:18.53 | airtonix | imagine the potential for zombie apocalypse |
| 01:19.03 | Jamash | zombie cowpocalypse |
| 01:19.06 | ZorbaTHut | but I don't want to build apps in HTML and JavaScript :( |
| 01:19.07 | airtonix | and skynet |
| 01:19.11 | cogwheel | if they could pull it off convincingly, it would be a great way to have ethical meat |
| 01:19.12 | Jamash | MOOOOoooOoooOoOOOOooo |
| 01:19.31 | Jamash | ZorbaTHut: and css |
| 01:19.38 | airtonix | ZorbaTHut, would be nice if it supported things like python, ruby, or whatever gets you hard |
| 01:19.40 | ZorbaTHut | that's not really an improvement |
| 01:19.47 | *** join/#wowuidev mascondante (kvirc@75-105-24-144.cust.wildblue.net) |
| 01:19.48 | Jamash | I know :D |
| 01:19.49 | ZorbaTHut | airtonix, it can't, if it wants to work on the iphone |
| 01:20.10 | airtonix | thats why im not impressed by the iphone. |
| 01:20.17 | Jamash | NO SCRIPTING ON IPHONE SAYETH THE JOBS |
| 01:20.33 | Jamash | airtonix: same |
| 01:20.37 | airtonix | a jail is still a jail regardless of the shiny white glossy linings |
| 01:20.40 | mascondante | meow |
| 01:20.46 | cogwheel | rawr |
| 01:20.59 | Jamash | quack |
| 01:21.16 | cogwheel | chirp |
| 01:21.24 | airtonix | food |
| 01:21.34 | Shirik | OH YEAH |
| 01:21.36 | Shirik | I forgot about that |
| 01:21.46 | Jamash | about food? |
| 01:21.46 | mascondante | lol |
| 01:21.47 | cogwheel | ~poke Shirik |
| 01:21.47 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Shirik, pokes Shirik repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 01:21.48 | Shirik | my laptop also has this "contactless smart card reader" |
| 01:21.51 | Shirik | wtf is this |
| 01:21.58 | Jerub | is a gaol still a gaol regardless of the spelling? |
| 01:22.01 | cogwheel | voodo |
| 01:22.02 | Shirik | isn't that a security vulnerability? |
| 01:22.02 | airtonix | means it works by proximity ? |
| 01:22.05 | cogwheel | +o |
| 01:22.07 | Thunder_Child | it's a contactless smart card reader |
| 01:22.10 | mascondante | ~facepalm Shirik |
| 01:22.11 | purl | ACTION paints Shirik 's face with crushed heart of palm |
| 01:22.22 | cogwheel | >< |
| 01:22.39 | Thunder_Child | ~factinfo CMD: facepalm (.*?) |
| 01:22.39 | purl | cmd: facepalm (.*?) -- created by sjansen <n=sjansen@hq-nat2.gurulabs.com> at Thu Sep 10 21:17:27 2009 (259 days); it has been requested 4 times, last by mascondante, 28s ago. |
| 01:22.40 | Shirik | Cide |
| 01:22.43 | Jamash | yes, it's a security vulnerability |
| 01:22.48 | Cide | yup |
| 01:22.48 | Shirik | should I include the monitors in the price of my laptop? |
| 01:22.55 | airtonix | ? |
| 01:22.56 | Thunder_Child | that person is fail |
| 01:22.57 | Cide | external? no |
| 01:22.58 | Shirik | I have 2 monitors to go with it |
| 01:22.59 | cogwheel | Thunder_Child: that's pretty epic imo |
| 01:23.12 | Thunder_Child | cogwheel: i was going with fail myself |
| 01:23.18 | cogwheel | totally non sequitur |
| 01:23.34 | cogwheel | guess you had to be there... err.... |
| 01:24.26 | Shirik | ok cide, I almost got everything right |
| 01:24.32 | Shirik | there's something slightly broken, the OS is wrong |
| 01:24.35 | Shirik | because the right option isn't there |
| 01:24.40 | Shirik | so I just chose the cheapest option |
| 01:24.48 | Cide | ok |
| 01:24.50 | Shirik | $6591 |
| 01:24.54 | airtonix | lol |
| 01:24.56 | Cide | nice |
| 01:24.57 | airtonix | LOL |
| 01:24.58 | Cide | gimme |
| 01:25.10 | Shirik | I can't believe that fingerprint reader was $100 extra |
| 01:25.10 | Cide | how heavy is it? |
| 01:25.11 | Shirik | that's BS |
| 01:25.16 | airtonix | thats almost a deposit on a home loan |
| 01:25.20 | Shirik | I actually don't really know, I haven't bothered to pick it up |
| 01:25.25 | Shirik | I've left it in the docking station |
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| 01:25.29 | Cide | why get you a laptop though |
| 01:25.37 | Shirik | long story, that |
| 01:25.37 | Cide | an equivalent desktop would be much cheaper |
| 01:25.43 | Shirik | they um |
| 01:25.49 | Shirik | they ran out of desktops |
| 01:25.54 | Shirik | so they issued me a laptop until they get more |
| 01:25.56 | mascondante | Thunder_Child: yeah that facepalm isn't hardly what I was hoping for |
| 01:25.58 | Cide | haha |
| 01:26.01 | Cide | nice |
| 01:26.14 | Cide | "hey we ran out of computers, here's $7k for a laptop" |
| 01:26.33 | Shirik | the laptop is actually less powerful than the desktop we normally get |
| 01:26.34 | Shirik | so |
| 01:26.41 | Shirik | I wouldn't be surprised if they pay that on a desktop |
| 01:26.41 | Cide | well yeah |
| 01:26.43 | Jamash | so wait, why do you need to know how much it would cost new? |
| 01:26.49 | Shirik | Jamash: I wanted to know |
| 01:26.55 | Jamash | in case you want to steal it? |
| 01:26.57 | Cide | it's probably difficult to find a laptop for more than $7k |
| 01:26.58 | Shirik | lol |
| 01:27.10 | Shirik | Cide: There was one option they didn't take advantage of |
| 01:27.11 | Shirik | actually two |
| 01:27.15 | mascondante | ~factinfo CMD: seen (.*?) |
| 01:27.15 | purl | mascondante: there's no such factoid as cmd: seen (.*?) |
| 01:27.25 | mascondante | ~factinfo CMD: seen |
| 01:27.25 | purl | mascondante: there's no such factoid as cmd: seen |
| 01:27.30 | Shirik | There's no third hard drive and I could get 4 more GB of RAM if I wanted |
| 01:27.31 | mascondante | bah |
| 01:27.36 | Cide | use a pm, mascondante |
| 01:27.55 | Cide | wait, you could get 3 hard drives in there? |
| 01:27.58 | Shirik | yes |
| 01:27.59 | mascondante | k. Purl don't like me anyway :-p |
| 01:28.01 | Shirik | I have 2 |
| 01:28.07 | Cide | is your laptop bigger than a miditower? |
| 01:28.11 | Shirik | lol no |
| 01:28.14 | Shirik | it's actually pretty small |
| 01:28.14 | DWSR | Anyone here use a Rune mod for their death knight? |
| 01:28.16 | Cide | ok just making sure |
| 01:28.16 | Jamash | is your laptop bigger than an xbox? |
| 01:28.24 | Shirik | it's about average size laptop |
| 01:28.36 | Cide | they sure manage to put a lot of stuff in there |
| 01:28.42 | Cide | have you measured the power usage? |
| 01:28.43 | Shirik | Yeah well it gets hot |
| 01:28.45 | Shirik | but um |
| 01:28.46 | Jamash | it's non-euclidean |
| 01:28.55 | Shirik | that could also be the sims I'm running |
| 01:28.55 | Cide | it goes beyond compact |
| 01:29.08 | Cide | in the mathematical sense |
| 01:29.10 | Shirik | But I can run an entire aircraft on it |
| 01:29.14 | Shirik | which I find to be impressive |
| 01:29.21 | Cide | what does that imply? |
| 01:29.25 | Cide | all aircraft systems simulated? |
| 01:29.31 | Shirik | um |
| 01:29.34 | Cide | or can your computer fly |
| 01:29.47 | Shirik | All aircraft systems, all dynamics computed, and all flight controls software running |
| 01:29.48 | Cide | in which case I think you got away pretty cheap with $7k |
| 01:29.59 | Jamash | that's pretty spiffy |
| 01:30.01 | Shirik | I haven't bothered to see how fast I can run the sim |
| 01:30.01 | Cide | that's pretty sweet |
| 01:30.06 | Shirik | but it runs smoothly at 1x at least |
| 01:30.10 | Cide | 16x go |
| 01:30.15 | Shirik | lol |
| 01:30.27 | Cide | what's the timestep in such a simulation anyway? |
| 01:30.30 | Jamash | mach 10 here we go |
| 01:30.40 | Shirik | 1x is realtime |
| 01:30.45 | Cide | no I mean |
| 01:30.48 | Cide | updates per second |
| 01:30.48 | Shirik | oh |
| 01:30.51 | Shirik | um |
| 01:30.57 | Shirik | well the software has to run at least 20 ticks per second |
| 01:31.05 | Shirik | and then there's I think 4 simulation ticks per system tick |
| 01:31.06 | cog|away | yay new Dexter disc from netflix |
| 01:31.08 | Shirik | so 80 steps |
| 01:31.12 | Cide | yeah, 80 sounds reasonable |
| 01:31.29 | Cide | gets pretty inaccurate over time if you reduce it much |
| 01:31.43 | Tuller | cog|away: what season? |
| 01:32.08 | cog|away | mit-late s3 |
| 01:32.12 | cog|away | mid* |
| 01:32.39 | Tuller | fun times |
| 01:33.23 | Tuller | also, a general question for people: I just made its so that when you dock one bar to another in dominos, that bar inherits its parent's opacity/fading settings |
| 01:33.36 | Tuller | should the toggle to disable that be a global thingy, or a per bar thingy |
| 01:34.19 | Tuller | i'm thinking global, since the per bar solution can simply be "don't dock it" |
| 01:43.34 | DWSR | Tuller: Per bar. |
| 01:43.58 | DWSR | What you should actually do is have a "default bar settings", and then have individual bar overrides. |
| 01:44.17 | DWSR | That way all bars look identical by default, except if you don't want them to be. |
| 01:44.35 | DWSR | similar to how Fortress does it. |
| 01:45.29 | Thunder_Child | CACKLE! |
| 01:46.30 | Tuller | well, to me, in that case, you'd simply unstick the bar |
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| 01:47.33 | NightHawkTheSane | its funny hearin people who haven't killed LK normal yet talk about how the 20% buff is 'overpowered' |
| 01:48.09 | DWSR | It is overpowered. |
| 01:48.14 | DWSR | Though, I have killed LK normal. |
| 01:48.26 | DWSR | It's fucking stupidly overpowered. |
| 01:48.43 | DWSR | I'm trying to convince my guild to start turning off the buff on normal.\ |
| 01:48.53 | DWSR | And only use it on heroic. |
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| 01:50.59 | frontendloader | why would you do that |
| 01:51.04 | frontendloader | free loot is free loot |
| 01:51.17 | Amarande | frontendloader: DWSR actually has encountered problems with his tank lately due to the buff. |
| 01:51.26 | DWSR | epeenery. |
| 01:51.31 | DWSR | And progression. |
| 01:51.39 | DWSR | If we can clear it with 15%, why not try to clear it with 0%? |
| 01:51.46 | airtonix | plus : more fun |
| 01:51.48 | DWSR | ^ |
| 01:51.51 | DWSR | Challenge. |
| 01:51.54 | airtonix | its why you play the game isnt it |
| 01:52.15 | airtonix | if i just wanted loot i'd play eve online and go afk for five months |
| 01:53.01 | airtonix | this is not to imply i play wow though |
| 01:53.48 | frontendloader | The challenge in WoW isn't the content |
| 01:54.00 | airtonix | its forming a raid pug ? |
| 01:54.15 | frontendloader | its keeping the guild running |
| 01:55.34 | Amarande | its getting into a raid pug without having 20,000g to spend on 264 boes for GS reasons? |
| 01:57.39 | Amarande | I'm in all epics now, pretty good ones, do awesomely in heroics, and yet my gearscore is 4673, which is apparently considered "horrible." |
| 01:58.12 | Amarande | hell people are being told 5.3k is low |
| 01:58.22 | frontendloader | 20k is low :3 |
| 01:58.41 | Amarande | how did that get to be such a problem in wotlk |
| 01:58.54 | Amarande | I mean yeah, I'd expect people to do plenty of heroics and get some badge gear |
| 01:58.59 | Amarande | but that gets you in the high 4000s |
| 01:59.02 | Thunder_Child | because raids are the foucs, not heroics |
| 01:59.05 | Amarande | and they'll look for 5.5k or 6k |
| 01:59.10 | frontendloader | pugging is kind of admitting defeat |
| 01:59.20 | Amarande | T_C: yeah, but in BC you never saw "LFM kara. must have t6 or don't bother" |
| 01:59.31 | Thunder_Child | things change |
| 01:59.32 | frontendloader | if you want to actually raid it is probably better to do it with the same people weekly |
| 01:59.33 | frontendloader | rather than pug |
| 02:00.12 | frontendloader | thats because sunwell/BT pugs are rarer than ICC pugs |
| 02:00.38 | Amarande | http://www.elitistarmory.com/US/Turalyon/Vladoka for instance. |
| 02:00.49 | Amarande | I'm wondering if I'm going to be told monotonously that my gear sucks |
| 02:00.53 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjbrl77MBjw&hd=1 |
| 02:00.56 | Amarande | even though EG is claiming I should be able to do TOGC10 with that. |
| 02:01.24 | frontendloader | You put too much weight on your own gear |
| 02:01.28 | Cide | ScytheBlade1: ping |
| 02:01.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: oh you tricky guy, I was seconds away from sleeping |
| 02:01.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: sup? |
| 02:01.45 | frontendloader | Tell people how awesome of a player you are |
| 02:01.48 | Cide | nvm then |
| 02:01.51 | ScytheBlade1 | nah |
| 02:01.55 | Cide | was just wondering if you were watching day9tv |
| 02:01.55 | ScytheBlade1 | ask, or it'll be a few days |
| 02:01.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Ah |
| 02:02.02 | ScytheBlade1 | I have every day this week |
| 02:02.06 | ScytheBlade1 | I've also done a 12h day every week |
| 02:02.08 | Cide | given |
| 02:02.10 | ScytheBlade1 | And it is killing me |
| 02:02.14 | Antiarc | Gear is a lot less important than ability |
| 02:02.15 | Cide | ScythedBlade: ITS DAY9 TIEM WOOOOO |
| 02:02.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Cide: YEAAAAAAAetc |
| 02:02.32 | Cide | didn't seem like you but the name was too similar to not ask |
| 02:02.37 | Cide | anyway good night! |
| 02:02.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh |
| 02:02.42 | ScytheBlade1 | Him |
| 02:02.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah I saw him |
| 02:02.46 | ScytheBlade1 | That isn't me |
| 02:02.49 | Cide | I see |
| 02:02.52 | ScytheBlade1 | But that's close enough |
| 02:02.53 | DWSR | Antiarc: Obviously. |
| 02:02.55 | ScytheBlade1 | And he is dumb enough |
| 02:02.57 | ScytheBlade1 | I might change nicks |
| 02:03.01 | Cide | haha |
| 02:03.13 | Cide | anyone who is interested in starcraft 2 should tune in in 3 min! |
| 02:03.14 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm in there as 'sboz' (when I'm in there) |
| 02:03.20 | ScytheBlade1 | fwiw |
| 02:03.20 | Cide | noted |
| 02:03.27 | Cide | Cidex because some bitch stole my name |
| 02:03.29 | Cide | if you care |
| 02:03.32 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:03.34 | Cide | which you should |
| 02:03.34 | ScytheBlade1 | oddly, same |
| 02:03.35 | ScytheBlade1 | =] |
| 02:03.36 | Cide | because I'm raging |
| 02:03.39 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:03.42 | frontendloader | what are you doing Cide? |
| 02:03.50 | ScytheBlade1 | in any case |
| 02:03.52 | ScytheBlade1 | I must sleep |
| 02:03.55 | Cide | watching day9's stream |
| 02:03.59 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm already half way there, truth be told |
| 02:04.00 | Cide | live in 2 minutes! |
| 02:04.00 | ScytheBlade1 | afk |
| 02:04.04 | Cide | night |
| 02:04.05 | frontendloader | oh d9d |
| 02:04.12 | Cide | yep |
| 02:04.21 | Cide | actually the first time I've managed to view it live |
| 02:04.46 | frontendloader | I need to watch his april fools one sometimes |
| 02:04.50 | frontendloader | I totally missed it |
| 02:05.48 | Cide | haven't seen that one |
| 02:15.18 | MoonWitch | Cairenn: I am off to bed .. but night night ;) |
| 02:15.28 | PProvost | Anyone know of a snippet for going from an enchant scroll (itemid) to the enchant itself? |
| 02:15.53 | Cairenn | MoonWitch: sweet dreams ;) |
| 02:16.27 | PProvost | nvm... looks like GetItemSpell is close |
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| 02:39.41 | tem | PProvost, ask in the auctioneer channel |
| 02:50.57 | kd3 | whistles |
| 02:59.46 | Shirik | lawl: http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/05/27/0352241/Warner-Bros-Accused-of-Pirating-Anti-Pirating-TechBerners-Lee |
| 03:04.32 | Cairenn | *snark* |
| 03:11.07 | Amarande | yay! the yankees lose! |
| 03:12.45 | Amarande | also, I have enough badges to buy a 10% xp heirloom |
| 03:12.48 | Amarande | decisions, decisions ... |
| 03:14.29 | Amarande | oh, BUGGER |
| 03:14.36 | Amarande | headdesks |
| 03:14.41 | Amarande | guess what I just did |
| 03:15.18 | Amarande | I'm at blackwatch, so I mount up to head down to do the next quest ... |
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| 03:18.32 | Amarande | *always make sure you don't try to fly with the land mount* *sigh* |
| 03:19.57 | cogwheel | <3 engineering |
| 03:20.14 | cogwheel | /parachute |
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| 03:22.42 | DWSR | Any SBF users online? |
| 03:22.46 | DWSR | I'm having an issue with it. |
| 03:29.40 | Kraps | wtb 20 more triumph emblems |
| 03:30.11 | Kraps | i'll do em tomorrow |
| 03:30.15 | Shirik | ............. |
| 03:30.16 | Shirik | wtf |
| 03:30.26 | Shirik | (20:13:48) (+UnBlockBot) 1 - [[User talk:V14d4m1rl3n1n]] NEW Blocked by admin [[User:Crzrussian]] at 2006-11-12; 15:15:51 for infinity: username (ID 302030) |
| 03:30.35 | Shirik | this guy just posted an unblock request |
| 03:30.38 | Shirik | 4 years after he was blocked |
| 03:31.20 | kd3 | er uh |
| 03:31.23 | kd3 | ...ya |
| 03:32.56 | Kraps | he"s turned a new leaf i tell ya |
| 03:33.17 | Shirik | 4 years later he could easily just make a new account... |
| 03:33.25 | Torhal | That's a hell of a long Internet time to wait to clear your name. |
| 03:33.37 | Shirik | autoblocks are only 24 hours and IP info is discarded after 3 months |
| 03:33.47 | Shirik | the software doesn't even know how to block him from creating an account anymore |
| 03:33.55 | Shirik | well |
| 03:33.56 | Shirik | until now |
| 03:34.01 | Shirik | now he's added a new autoblock, lol |
| 03:34.32 | Thunder_Child | does it reserve the name as well? |
| 03:34.35 | Torhal | Who wants to headdesk? |
| 03:34.38 | Torhal | http://wow.curseforge.com/addons/addon-checker/ |
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| 03:34.47 | Shirik | Thunder_Child, what do you mean? |
| 03:35.01 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: is the name banned as well? |
| 03:35.11 | Shirik | ah yes the account stays blocked |
| 03:35.25 | Audio | whats hudmap and GTFO? |
| 03:35.27 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: there you go then, he wants his UN back |
| 03:35.36 | Shirik | why >< |
| 03:35.41 | Shirik | 4 YEARS |
| 03:36.01 | Torhal | Audio: HudMap --> http://www.wowace.com/addons/hudmap/ |
| 03:36.07 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: hudmap has a version check? |
| 03:36.13 | Torhal | I swear, if all of that shit is required by a guild - get a new fucking guild. |
| 03:36.16 | Thunder_Child | just because it doesnt make any sense to you doesnt mean it doesnt make sense |
| 03:36.34 | Shirik | yes |
| 03:36.41 | Torhal | Next version - WE REQUIRE DECURSIVE! NAO! |
| 03:36.42 | Shirik | if it doesn't make sense to me there's no hope to anyone |
| 03:36.43 | Shirik | like |
| 03:36.49 | Shirik | I understand the weirdest shit |
| 03:36.50 | Audio | so its a pointless avr ripoff that'll be broken soon |
| 03:36.53 | Shirik | if I don't understand it, we all lost |
| 03:36.57 | Torhal | Audio: Not at all |
| 03:37.02 | Torhal | Not even the same type of AddOn |
| 03:37.08 | Torhal | And it was written BEFORE AVRE |
| 03:37.34 | Torhal | Also: It won't be broken. Blizzard said it's fine. |
| 03:37.40 | Thunder_Child | ...are you kidding me Shirik? there is a reason we call you an AI |
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| 03:37.52 | Shirik | because I know everything? |
| 03:37.53 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: No |
| 03:38.06 | Antiarc | I think the raid leader is requiring raiders to install the check addon |
| 03:38.12 | Thunder_Child | ummm....no |
| 03:38.57 | Torhal | Antiarc: He is |
| 03:39.29 | Antiarc | that's awesome |
| 03:40.07 | Torhal | Antiarc: "Addon Checker will be required by your raid members for the raid leader to check for compliance of common raiding addons." |
| 03:40.18 | Antiarc | That's incredible. |
| 03:40.26 | Torhal | Complete tool. |
| 03:40.35 | Torhal | Anyway - looking at how fail the code is. |
| 03:41.25 | Jamash | if your raiders are too dumb to install raiding addons what's going to suddenly make them smart enough to install a raid addon checking addon? |
| 03:41.46 | Torhal | Because you'll kick them out if they don't play WoW the way you want them to play WoW. |
| 03:41.53 | Torhal | Because you're a Himmler. |
| 03:42.23 | Jamash | and if you're too dumb to lead a raid without everyone having the Exact Same Addons what's going to make you smart enough to use the raid addon checking addon? |
| 03:42.37 | Kraps | this is hillerious can sum on giv me the web sit of hawerd radio i wana liscten to it pliz hahah |
| 03:42.42 | Torhal | Dunno - but the next version will check for Decursive! |
| 03:42.44 | Kraps | come on! |
| 03:42.53 | Torhal | I want ALL of my raiders running it! ESPECIALLY the Mages! |
| 03:42.55 | Torhal | :D |
| 03:43.10 | Kraps | btw Torhal, Godwin |
| 03:43.17 | Antiarc | brb |
| 03:43.20 | Antiarc | writing addon-checker-checker |
| 03:43.21 | Jamash | what does decursive even do anymore? |
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| 03:43.27 | Torhal | Antiarc: ROFLMAO |
| 03:43.37 | Jamash | nono antiarc |
| 03:43.37 | Torhal | Kraps: Hrm? |
| 03:43.44 | Jamash | write addon-checker-spoofer |
| 03:43.49 | PProvost | zactly |
| 03:43.53 | Kraps | [11:42:03]<Torhal>Because you're a Himmler. |
| 03:43.59 | Arrowmaster | Jamash: nothing unique at all |
| 03:44.07 | Arrowmaster | so absolutely zero reason to require it |
| 03:44.29 | Torhal | Kraps: Ah. Yes. |
| 03:45.40 | Jamash | I'm going to go write an addon that watches for addon communication from this addon and automatically leaves group / gquits (depending on if the raid leader is from your guild) |
| 03:45.54 | Torhal | And yes - the code is pretty fail but not as bad as I thought it'd be. |
| 03:47.25 | Kraps | http://vimeo.com/12072738 |
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| 03:53.07 | DWSR | does anyone here run Satrina's Buff Frames? |
| 03:54.06 | DWSR | I'm having a problem with all of the 3.1 versions of it. |
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| 03:55.24 | DWSR | Every time I start it up, it shits out on me complaining that the method ProfileTabInitialise is nil. |
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| 04:13.56 | Torhal | DWSR: I run it without issue |
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| 04:19.35 | DWSR | Torhal: Can you zip me the addons and send them to me? |
| 04:20.18 | Kraps | i loved kindergarten |
| 04:20.34 | Kraps | it was the best 3 years of my life |
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| 04:33.23 | Torhal | DWSR: I don't know how it would help - I'm using what's on WoWI |
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| 04:51.58 | Shirik | sleeps |
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| 04:57.09 | Alishar | can someone seriously tell me whats wrong with my toon |
| 04:57.11 | Alishar | http://wow-heroes.com/index.php?zone=us&server=Thorium%20Brotherhood&name=Alishar |
| 04:57.16 | Alishar | ^^ wow heroes link |
| 04:57.32 | Alishar | im geared for ICC 10 (yellow) but no one will take me |
| 04:58.06 | Alishar | oh my icc10 is green my 25 is yellow |
| 04:58.10 | DWSR | PvP gear. |
| 04:58.22 | Alishar | which one should I replace? |
| 04:58.41 | DWSR | Also, you're Frost. |
| 04:58.42 | DWSR | All of them. |
| 05:00.14 | Antiarc | http://elitistarmory.com/US/Thorium%20Brotherhood/Alishar |
| 05:00.22 | DWSR | Also, that. |
| 05:00.45 | Xyphoid | what does 'no one will take you' mean, are you just trying to join tradechat pugs |
| 05:01.30 | Alishar | yes |
| 05:01.38 | Alishar | I pug a 10man ICC |
| 05:01.46 | Arrowmaster | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSywiwgC4Dk&fmt=18 |
| 05:01.48 | Alishar | and no tanks on my stupid realm |
| 05:02.04 | Alishar | I know fights up to gunship and no guilds want me |
| 05:02.10 | DWSR | lol |
| 05:02.21 | DWSR | If you haven't seen at least 8/12, don't bother apping. |
| 05:02.28 | DWSR | Seriously. |
| 05:02.34 | DWSR | at 20%, pugs should be hitting LK. |
| 05:04.01 | Xyphoid | ^^ this is a good example of how tradechat pugs think |
| 05:04.15 | Nechckn | Alishar It does suck, though.. since you obviously have worked at things, just not the "right" ones. |
| 05:04.32 | DWSR | Alishar: Seriously. How have you not at least seen Saurfang? |
| 05:04.42 | DWSR | Xyphoid: The problem is that it's true. I've pugged 8/12 with no buff. |
| 05:05.07 | Xyphoid | see the psychology? 'i have done X therefore everyone has done X' |
| 05:05.18 | DWSR | No. |
| 05:05.21 | Xyphoid | and when you're running a pug, why take someone who hasn't already done it |
| 05:05.25 | DWSR | I've done X before everyone else has doneY. |
| 05:05.55 | DWSR | Alishar: Did you just start raiding recently? |
| 05:06.03 | Xyphoid | ideally if i'm running a pug, I'll be the worst player there |
| 05:06.10 | Nechckn | Well, it is all about not knowing people from anything else, too. My guilds are all folks I have played with for a long time. |
| 05:06.33 | Nechckn | That is the only way I would ever get into anything "cool", tbh. |
| 05:08.09 | Nechckn | So, it is either replace items or get to know folks via some other means, and then get taken along to get into the good stuff. |
| 05:09.00 | Nechckn | Either that or hope that someone is short a DPS sometime and you happen to be on when one is needed. =) |
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| 05:10.22 | Alishar | I just dont get it |
| 05:10.27 | Alishar | all my item upgrades |
| 05:10.29 | Alishar | drop |
| 05:10.31 | Alishar | in ICC |
| 05:10.33 | Alishar | 10/25 |
| 05:10.41 | Alishar | but no one will take me X_X |
| 05:11.35 | Nechckn | Sort of the chicken before the egg scenario |
| 05:11.35 | Xyphoid | join a crappy guild that's failing at it and carry them |
| 05:12.15 | Alishar | and enjoy the repair bill? |
| 05:12.18 | Alishar | sure |
| 05:12.20 | Alishar | why not |
| 05:12.26 | Xyphoid | yep |
| 05:12.28 | Xyphoid | it's only money |
| 05:12.33 | Antiarc | gotta pay your dues :P |
| 05:12.37 | Xyphoid | there is always a guild that'll take you |
| 05:12.44 | Xyphoid | it's just that you're too picky right now from the sound of it |
| 05:12.50 | Alishar | nah |
| 05:12.58 | Alishar | ill join any guild at this point |
| 05:13.08 | Alishar | even if they were new to icc |
| 05:15.20 | Nechckn | Have you tried posting/reading the realm forums on WoW's main site or other sites? |
| 05:15.32 | Jerub | Alishar: au or us or eu? |
| 05:19.11 | NightHawkTheSane | doing about half of all total healing in a fight with 2 other healers makes me a sad panda |
| 05:20.43 | Seerah | isn't that a good thing?... |
| 05:21.06 | Alishar | us Thorium Brotherhood |
| 05:21.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Seerah: it means the other healers aren't doing as much as they probably ought :P |
| 05:21.53 | Seerah | or maybe it means you're das |
| 05:22.12 | Seerah | das gut |
| 05:22.14 | Seerah | pro |
| 05:22.37 | Xyphoid | oh god, my raid leader discovered that recount has a dps / gearscore or healing / gearscore pane |
| 05:22.50 | Xyphoid | it's the most terrible thing |
| 05:25.02 | Antiarc | augh |
| 05:26.41 | WobNet | augh |
| 05:26.56 | WobNet | Xyphoid: roll a disc priest |
| 05:26.57 | NightHawkTheSane | Seerah: well, yeah, i AM pro, but i dont like doing ALL the work ;) |
| 05:27.01 | WobNet | and BLOW HIS MIND |
| 05:29.44 | WobNet | http://i.imgur.com/4JRYb.jpg |
| 05:31.47 | Seerah | oooooooohhhhhhh |
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| 05:51.17 | Kraps | cool WobNet |
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| 05:57.45 | frontendloader | cannons outrange marines? |
| 05:57.50 | frontendloader | durp |
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| 06:00.47 | Kraps | http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/129185600568506640.jpg |
| 06:07.46 | Alishar | now that starcraft 2 beta is out |
| 06:07.50 | Alishar | and I have a copy |
| 06:07.56 | Alishar | I am quitting wow |
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| 06:08.05 | WobNet | Kraps: I've seen it as "The years had not been gentle to Christopher Robin, Pooh and Tigger..." |
| 06:08.05 | Jerub | Alishar: meh |
| 06:08.08 | Alishar | <censored> wow..... |
| 06:08.20 | Alishar | <censored> wow up its <censored>hole |
| 06:08.27 | WobNet | kk |
| 06:08.33 | WobNet | have fun! |
| 06:08.39 | WobNet | (see you in a week =)) |
| 06:08.43 | Alishar | nah |
| 06:08.50 | Kraps | Alishar: lol |
| 06:08.57 | Alishar | diablo 3 is gonna be a huge distraction |
| 06:09.07 | Alishar | its due next year sometime |
| 06:09.12 | Alishar | says blizzard.com |
| 06:09.26 | WobNet | you have half a year to have sc2 maintain your interest |
| 06:09.29 | Kraps | cata is due THIS year sometime |
| 06:09.52 | Alishar | it kinda sucks already |
| 06:09.58 | Alishar | but with the new map maker |
| 06:10.03 | Alishar | it should be more fun |
| 06:10.05 | Jerub | i play both sc2 beta and wow |
| 06:10.11 | Alishar | custom maps for the win |
| 06:10.12 | Jerub | i can't wait for 3.3.5 |
| 06:10.22 | Jerub | so i can play wow as well as know when friends come online. |
| 06:13.16 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if the realid stuff means no playing two games at once |
| 06:14.52 | Arrowmaster | can multiboxers use multiple wow accounts on the same battle.net account or do they need to have a separate battle.net account for each one |
| 06:17.00 | Fisker | i killed you Jerub |
| 06:17.03 | Fisker | i watched you die |
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| 06:21.59 | frontendloader | yes they can Archarodim |
| 06:22.01 | frontendloader | Arrowmaster |
| 06:22.24 | Arrowmaster | wonder how that will work with realid |
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| 07:16.18 | Maldivia | morning |
| 07:17.35 | zenzio | ohai |
| 07:18.11 | Maldivia | its too early? |
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| 07:18.19 | zenzio | it's always too early |
| 07:18.32 | Maldivia | true |
| 07:19.28 | Maldivia | considering i will be at work in 10 minutes, i dont feel awake at all |
| 07:19.47 | zenzio | "'Part of my job is to get IE6 share down to zero as soon as possible,' said Ryan Gavin, head of the Internet Explorer business group." |
| 07:19.52 | zenzio | now that's an interesting job |
| 07:20.15 | Maldivia | yeah, laughed when i read that last night |
| 07:22.04 | Maldivia | but people will probably make his job hard, just like if he was trying to gain a userbase |
| 07:22.09 | mikma | http://dlisted.com/node/37432 |
| 07:22.11 | mikma | enjoy! |
| 07:22.49 | Maldivia | too early |
| 07:23.10 | zenzio | I'd argue it could be harder for him to make people ditch IE6 than to try to get anyone to use IE 7+ |
| 07:24.28 | Maldivia | quwstuon is, can he only promote ie8+ as the alternative, or ff or chrome as well |
| 07:24.40 | Maldivia | question* |
| 07:24.49 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2010/05/shoryuken_arguably_the_most_im.php |
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| 07:38.12 | airtonix | hooray for pringles cantennas |
| 07:43.43 | Fisker | i fucked you up zenzio |
| 07:44.58 | Torhal | Fisker: Don't be a fool - cover your tool. |
| 07:45.24 | Fisker | i wat'd Torhal |
| 07:46.35 | Torhal | If you say so, it must be true. |
| 07:47.00 | Torhal | My torrents refuse to seed, Fisker. |
| 07:47.05 | Torhal | FEEX NAO |
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| 07:49.51 | Fisker | stop being censored Torhal |
| 07:49.56 | airtonix | i sage you fisker |
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| 07:50.48 | Fisker | we got wat wat in the butt'd by surpreme court airtonix |
| 07:51.05 | airtonix | oh so not your fault then |
| 07:51.36 | airtonix | did you please a case of insanity ? |
| 07:52.21 | Fisker | i didn't |
| 07:53.25 | Fisker | LOL FUCKING TROLLD |
| 07:53.39 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arde0KIvll0 <-the amount of stupid in this video is staggering |
| 07:53.41 | airtonix | too much sugar ? |
| 07:55.40 | olafski | 3 comments by people who only commented on this video and joined <1 month ago :P |
| 07:55.54 | Fisker | i like it though |
| 07:56.04 | Fisker | OMG PUT AN SSD IN YOUR ODD AND IT FIXES SCRATCHES! |
| 07:59.22 | olafski | I prefer to make mortal kombat moves myself, mikma |
| 08:00.51 | mikma | olafski: ss or it didn't happen |
| 08:01.47 | Wobin | Fisker, wait... that's a SSD with the iso on it or something? |
| 08:01.58 | olafski | no contrary to that guy, I'm not uploading it |
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| 08:02.12 | olafski | wobin: I figured it was a scratched disc in another drive =( |
| 08:07.24 | Wobin | That's Great !!! |
| 08:07.25 | Wobin | Booting Speed Imposible. :) |
| 08:07.48 | olafski | oO? |
| 08:07.56 | Wobin | from the forums on the site |
| 08:08.15 | olafski | oh :P |
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| 08:09.29 | Wobin | oh I guess it's just a SSD with an ODD on top of it |
| 08:10.01 | Arrowmaster | being used like a giant cache, but thats fucking stupid and wont work |
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| 08:11.34 | Arrowmaster | unless you want to sit there and wait for the thing to try to read a part of the disc that is so badly scratched that it takes it a few thousand reads to tell its got the correct data from it |
| 08:11.58 | Arrowmaster | or a section that its completely impossible to get the correct data from |
| 08:19.50 | airtonix | oh windows install cds how i hate thee |
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| 08:20.16 | airtonix | Arrowmaster, did you know grub2 lets you choose ISO images to boot from |
| 08:21.39 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/tattoo8.jpg |
| 08:24.15 | Arrowmaster | airtonix: got proof of this? |
| 08:25.24 | airtonix | Arrowmaster, yeah one sec, i havent tried it myself, but it would be nice if i could do the same with windows ISOs |
| 08:25.46 | Arrowmaster | i have only ever seen it in grub4dos |
| 08:26.11 | Arrowmaster | which is not grub2 |
| 08:26.13 | airtonix | this isn't grub1 v2 but just grub2 |
| 08:26.39 | airtonix | http://michael-prokop.at/blog/2009/05/25/boot-an-iso-via-grub2/ |
| 08:27.01 | airtonix | http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7687228&postcount=3 |
| 08:27.25 | airtonix | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1288604 |
| 08:27.42 | airtonix | last one is fairly detailed |
| 08:27.59 | haste | detailed posts on the ubuntu forum?>! |
| 08:28.04 | airtonix | heresy! |
| 08:28.21 | airtonix | grab the torches i'll get the farmers for some angry mob justice! |
| 08:29.34 | Arrowmaster | grub4dos does it much simpler |
| 08:29.48 | Arrowmaster | and should work for any cd |
| 08:31.12 | Arrowmaster | i dont really consider what grub2 does to be true support for booting iso's |
| 08:31.43 | haste | It's amazing how much work they've put into grub2 |
| 08:31.44 | Arrowmaster | since its not, its just loading up the filesystem and booting exactly what you point it to |
| 08:31.47 | haste | yet it does so little new |
| 08:31.57 | haste | at least the config syntax improved slighly |
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| 08:32.44 | Arrowmaster | airtonix: there are some articles on installing grub4dos onto a usb drive |
| 08:32.58 | Arrowmaster | hell theres even an automated installer somewhere i saw once |
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| 08:38.00 | zenzio | "2976px à 3968px (scaled to 200px à 267px)" QQ |
| 08:38.07 | zenzio | "thumbnails? What's that?" |
| 08:42.19 | olafski | if that's not enough for you, get better glasses |
| 08:44.17 | zenzio | it's more like "why is my browser suddenly chugging? Oh, right, giant images that the browser has to scale..." |
| 08:46.46 | olafski | oh :) |
| 08:46.59 | olafski | I don't get that either.. and it looks so ugly too |
| 08:47.14 | zenzio | yup |
| 08:47.16 | olafski | or do browsers use some smart scaling filter nowadays? |
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| 09:00.48 | Fisker | hey zenzio |
| 09:00.52 | Fisker | i stare at you |
| 09:07.34 | Kaso | olafski: i think IE still uses nearest neighbour but the other browsers use better scaling algorithms |
| 09:07.45 | olafski | hmm |
| 09:07.48 | Kaso | also there's css rules i think you can assign to choose |
| 09:07.49 | olafski | kay =) |
| 09:08.54 | Arrowmaster | i swear firefox on linux has a worse image scaler than firefox on windows |
| 09:09.24 | Kaso | wait, bilinear filtering is the crappy looking one |
| 09:09.30 | Kaso | nearest neighbour is better |
| 09:10.13 | olafski | context aware rescale tbh :P |
| 09:10.27 | Kaso | https://developer.mozilla.org/En/CSS/image-rendering |
| 09:10.59 | Kaso | ie 7 has -ms-interpolation-mode: nearest-neighbor |
| 09:11.05 | Kaso | but doesnt work with transparency |
| 09:11.49 | olafski | according to that site IE7 has both nearest neighbour and bicubic |
| 09:12.09 | Kaso | so it does |
| 09:12.45 | Arrowmaster | hmm im still using 3.5 so that firefox one doesnt help |
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| 09:13.57 | Kaso | apparently: Since version 1.9 (Firefox 3.0), Gecko uses bilinear resampling. This provides in general high quality. |
| 09:14.52 | Kaso | you just need firefox 3.6 to be able to change the default in css |
| 09:15.47 | Arrowmaster | it still looks like crap on linux compared to windows though |
| 09:17.00 | Wobin | "A Spill Like That (Will Kill Your Otter)" |
| 09:17.05 | Wobin | I <3 Jon Stewart |
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| 09:29.29 | airtonix | Arrowmaster, same deal in chromium ? |
| 09:29.43 | Arrowmaster | dont have it installed |
| 09:30.33 | airtonix | i love the developer tools in chromium |
| 09:31.18 | airtonix | the profiles and audits are interesting |
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| 10:36.40 | airtonix | http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=98678 |
| 10:41.57 | haste | Fisker: there's an article about 4chan in the local news paper here |
| 10:42.16 | haste | Fisker: it recommends people to go have a look at the end |
| 10:42.25 | airtonix | lol |
| 10:42.33 | haste | Fisker: I'll provide scans after work |
| 10:42.52 | zenzio | since NPC trolls seem to all have apostrophes in the middle of their name, why can't players? |
| 10:43.05 | haste | ask a GM |
| 10:43.46 | Antiarc | Do you really want to see 43 variations of Bob'marley? |
| 10:43.52 | zenzio | yes |
| 10:43.54 | airtonix | yes |
| 10:43.59 | zenzio | and last names at that |
| 10:44.15 | airtonix | unpronouncables |
| 10:45.12 | airtonix | you know |
| 10:45.19 | airtonix | even if they do let you have last names |
| 10:45.35 | airtonix | there is still going to be those annoying xXXBlueSteelXXx |
| 10:46.07 | airtonix | or Rogue45 |
| 10:46.25 | airtonix | sorry : rouge45 |
| 10:48.10 | Arrowmaster | stick with shire names from morrowind, more fun |
| 10:48.16 | Arrowmaster | shrine |
| 10:49.19 | Fisker | :O haste |
| 10:50.05 | zenzio | you have all these fancy NPCs, like Talkar Steelblade (made up, but you get the idea), and then you have these heroes who defeated Illidan, the Lich King, and so on... like Stevedk |
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| 10:52.30 | airtonix | Cohen |
| 10:52.49 | airtonix | the 80 year old Barbarian. |
| 10:53.29 | Fisker | i fucked your sons dog zenzio |
| 10:53.39 | airtonix | kinky |
| 10:53.48 | airtonix | sure it was a dog ? |
| 10:54.17 | zenzio | Fisker: neglecting the fact that I have no kids or dogs, can't you for ONCE come up with something you haven't said a hundred times before? |
| 10:54.43 | airtonix | its classic trollisms |
| 10:54.47 | zenzio | I look back at what you used to be like; an interesting troll... now you're just a noise reverberating around the channel |
| 10:58.25 | Torhal | Antiarc: Addamasartus, for example? |
| 10:58.25 | Fisker | hey zenzio |
| 10:58.27 | Fisker | i fucked your sons dog zenzio |
| 10:58.33 | Antiarc | Torhal: ? |
| 10:58.34 | Fisker | wins |
| 10:58.44 | Torhal | Antiarc: Bah. Meant Arrowmaster. |
| 10:59.04 | airtonix | Fisker, http://imagebin.org/98686 |
| 10:59.37 | Fisker | i get it airtonix |
| 10:59.58 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: too many vowels |
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| 11:00.46 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: Here's one from Alternate Reality - Acrinimiril |
| 11:01.19 | Fisker | man that zenzio guy is srs |
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| 11:36.22 | airtonix | any ideas why this would be happening : http://pastebin.com/ZnnkNn7D |
| 11:36.58 | airtonix | imageposter.py refuses to run unless i provide it as an argument to the python binary (python ./imageposter.py) |
| 11:37.49 | Arrowmaster | no shebang |
| 11:38.09 | airtonix | there is |
| 11:38.28 | zenzio | I'm not sure I understand your post. Is the shebang the first line? |
| 11:38.33 | zenzio | (in your files) |
| 11:39.21 | airtonix | http://gist.github.com/417062 |
| 11:39.28 | airtonix | thats folder-links.py |
| 11:39.46 | airtonix | http://gist.github.com/417063 |
| 11:39.51 | airtonix | thats imageposter.py |
| 11:40.15 | Arrowmaster | line numbering is fucked up on that last one |
| 11:40.27 | Arrowmaster | maybe the line ending is messed up? |
| 11:40.51 | airtonix | as in last line ? |
| 11:40.59 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 11:41.02 | Adys | EOL, unix? |
| 11:41.12 | airtonix | its not immediatly obvious what you mean sorry |
| 11:41.33 | Arrowmaster | new line character |
| 11:41.33 | airtonix | i can see the tabs are not right, but thats just the dictionary i think |
| 11:43.41 | Arrowmaster | open in vim, :ff unix |
| 11:44.50 | airtonix | i have editor set to use crlf as line endings |
| 11:45.14 | airtonix | ahh |
| 11:45.20 | airtonix | and folder-links only has lf |
| 11:45.22 | Arrowmaster | then thats your problem |
| 11:45.33 | Arrowmaster | you shouldnt be using crlf |
| 11:45.48 | Arrowmaster | ever |
| 11:45.57 | Adys | even on windows |
| 11:46.08 | airtonix | ok |
| 11:46.21 | Arrowmaster | especially not in notepad |
| 11:46.59 | airtonix | im using geany |
| 11:47.18 | airtonix | theres a sed one liner to remove cr |
| 11:48.29 | Arrowmaster | theres also dos2unix |
| 11:49.34 | airtonix | sed "s/\r//" infile >outfile |
| 11:51.01 | Arrowmaster | sleeps |
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| 12:04.42 | Legorol | Arrowmaster: how are you suggesting not using crlf in notepad on windows? |
| 12:04.45 | Legorol | that's impossible to avoid afaik |
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| 12:15.54 | Adys | Legorol: dont use notepad |
| 12:15.54 | Adys | :P |
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| 12:30.22 | Legorol | sure Adys i agree on that, i was just disagreeing with: <Arrowmaster> you shouldnt be using crlf <Arrowmaster> especially not in notepad |
| 12:30.34 | Adys | ah |
| 12:30.38 | Adys | im not sure i understand that eiter |
| 12:30.40 | Adys | +h |
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| 12:48.10 | Fisker | so Arrowmaster |
| 12:48.11 | Fisker | i am awesome |
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| 12:48.58 | Stanzilla | lies |
| 12:52.50 | alestane | Morning, Peppy. |
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| 12:57.54 | Kraps | if you put a wand up to someones face or neck, can you kill them by casting Expelliarmus? |
| 12:58.11 | alestane | I don't think it works that way. |
| 12:59.46 | Kraps | its kind of inconsistent, sometimes is blasts the target backwards ans sometimes it merely disarms them |
| 13:00.02 | alestane | You'd probably knock out anything they had clenched in their teeth, though. |
| 13:00.22 | |Jelly| | Free teeth cleaning, courtesy of Kraps? |
| 13:01.20 | Kraps | its also Spell Reflect! |
| 13:01.23 | Kraps | Description: Produces a jet of scarlet light. This spell is used to disarm another wizard, typically by causing the victim's wand to fly out of reach.[19][20] It can also throw the target backwards when enough power is put into it. If it hits, or gets close, to another spell, if powerful enough, it will deflect the spell, causing it to hit its caster. As demonstrated in Prisoner of Azkaban,... |
| 13:01.25 | Kraps | ...simultaneous use of this spell by multiple witches or wizards on a single person can throw the wizard back with much greater force. |
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| 13:05.57 | Lopeppeppy | has a Very Cranky. |
| 13:06.17 | mikma | oh noes teh shitlols |
| 13:06.53 | |Jelly| | So what Peppy needs is a warm glass of Chillax? |
| 13:07.10 | Lopeppeppy | And about 5 more hours of sleepytime |
| 13:07.48 | |Jelly| | So what she really needs is some Nyquil? |
| 13:08.01 | Lopeppeppy | I don't think I can take that currently.... |
| 13:08.25 | Kraps | offers Lopeppeppy a Chillaxative |
| 13:09.56 | Lopeppeppy | Nope, can't take nyquil. |
| 13:10.25 | |Jelly| | Wow ... WoW really doesn't want to load while iTunes is updating my music library. |
| 13:10.31 | |Jelly| | ... and I'm sure breaking it |
| 13:10.48 | Lopeppeppy | iTunes is made of evil, I think Thunder Child decided that last night. |
| 13:11.05 | Maldivia | itunes is a resource hog when updating |
| 13:11.31 | |Jelly| | Yeah, I didn't realize it was still doing it. lol |
| 13:12.14 | Maldivia | it takes ages, and it use all available resources doing it |
| 13:12.27 | |Jelly| | lol ... disconnected from server |
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| 13:12.50 | Maldivia | how it can take that long is beyond me |
| 13:13.28 | |Jelly| | Especially when you figure that I only have like 4GB of music. I really feel for those that have expansive libraries on their computers. |
| 13:14.45 | Maldivia | well, over the course of a random heroic, itunes managed to process four files |
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| 13:15.17 | |Jelly| | It wasn't UK in 8 minutes, was it? |
| 13:16.03 | Maldivia | well, managed to use hetoism twice, so abot 14 min run or so |
| 13:16.18 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 13:17.47 | Maldivia | i have no idea how its possible to be that slow, while using 100% cpu if possible |
| 13:19.33 | Maldivia | but atleast it was a bit faster than the length of the music files |
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| 13:35.20 | Kraps | Shirik |
| 13:35.31 | Shirik | Kraps |
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| 13:36.10 | Kraps | is this encyclopedic? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spells_in_Harry_Potter |
| 13:37.45 | Shirik | sadly it would probably be kept |
| 13:37.54 | airtonix | Arrowmaster, zenity --info --text="$(dig +short txt $(zenity --entry --title="Search wiki" --text="Enter your search word:").wp.dg.cx)" |
| 13:38.14 | airtonix | Arrowmaster, search wikipedia through DNS |
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| 13:38.48 | Kraps | why sadly? |
| 13:38.50 | alestane | "I don't care how many records you sell, you really don't know shit if you think Mendelssohn came over on the same spaceship as JanáÄek." |
| 13:38.55 | Shirik | I don't think it deserves to be an article |
| 13:38.57 | Kraps | ^_^ |
| 13:39.28 | Shirik | Apparently it already had an AfD: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Magic_in_Harry_Potter |
| 13:42.32 | Kraps | different page Shirik |
| 13:43.27 | Shirik | kraps |
| 13:43.27 | Shirik | read |
| 13:43.38 | Kraps | i did |
| 13:43.46 | Shirik | I am also nominating the following related pages because they are all largely suffering from the same problem and unlikely to be rescued: |
| 13:43.48 | Shirik | Spells in Harry Potter (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) |
| 13:43.57 | alestane | SO does the GIMP have a "Straight line" tool? |
| 13:44.14 | Lopeppeppy | I dunno. Gooooooogle! |
| 13:44.36 | airtonix | alestane, i just use inkscape for that stuff |
| 13:45.14 | alestane | Apparently only as a "constrained drawing" method. |
| 13:45.27 | alestane | i.e. hold Shift and Draw. |
| 13:45.33 | Shirik | I'll constrain your drawings |
| 13:46.02 | airtonix | alestane, yes hold shift after you make your first click with any drawing tool |
| 13:46.06 | airtonix | ... |
| 13:46.13 | airtonix | beatn |
| 13:47.28 | airtonix | alestane, if you hold shift while drawing then its just sputters |
| 13:47.48 | airtonix | need to shift and click from point to point |
| 13:48.13 | alestane | Yeah, figuring it out. |
| 13:48.26 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 13:48.28 | Fisker | why do you suck? |
| 13:48.42 | airtonix | to make money |
| 13:50.12 | Shirik | "You might assume you've been logged out, and provide their credentials to log in. !!BANG!! all your info like emails, credit card info gone into wrong hands." |
| 13:50.18 | Shirik | Yes that's appropriate for an article ._. |
| 13:50.53 | Kraps | http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Harry_Potter |
| 13:51.03 | airtonix | fisker, you;ve gone into wrong hands |
| 13:52.21 | Kraps | "Here, we see how his enforced non-magical life causes him spiritual poverty and deprivation as he endures the long weeks before he can return to school." |
| 13:52.28 | Kraps | wut |
| 13:52.34 | Kraps | "spiritual poverty" |
| 13:52.48 | Lopeppeppy | Aww, poor Harry. |
| 13:53.06 | Lopeppeppy | Just like every OTHER muggle-family Hogwarts student. |
| 13:53.21 | Kraps | no |
| 13:53.36 | Kraps | e.g. Hermione |
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| 13:54.00 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, she couldn't practice magic underage either, and lived in a non-magical household. |
| 13:54.31 | Lopeppeppy | A few other students are described as having miserable home lives as muggle-born wizards. Not just poor pitiful Harry. |
| 13:54.34 | Kraps | yeah, but its talking in the context of the Dursleys |
| 13:54.35 | airtonix | woe is us that are bereft of hogwarts |
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| 13:56.13 | Kraps | "Everyone is watching the new kitchen TV, which had been installed because Dudley was complaining about the long walk from the living room TV to the fridge." |
| 13:57.33 | Adys | adys@azura:~/wow$ cats Logs/connection.log |
| 13:57.33 | Adys | No command 'cats' found, did you mean: |
| 13:57.33 | Adys | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:59.59 | Kraps | According to Inside Higher Ed, the catalog of the Library of Congress records 21 volumes of criticism and interpretation on the Harry Potter novels. At least seven masterâs dissertations and seventeen doctoral theses have been devoted to the Harry Potter books. |
| 14:00.29 | Lopeppeppy | ... well, it's a series of 7, popular YA literature. It's a very valid topic in the YA literature or educational fields. |
| 14:00.30 | Lopeppeppy | I guess. |
| 14:00.33 | [Wobin] | Cairenn|afk, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpTqV6LPl8c&feature=player_embedded |
| 14:02.38 | [Wobin] | http://verydemotivational.com/2010/05/27/demotivational-posters-mon-mon-mon/ |
| 14:03.05 | Kraps | "Bill O'Reilly joined in the political fray over Harry Potter character Albus Dumbledoreâs outing by asking if it was part of the âgay agendaâ of the indoctrination of children." |
| 14:03.16 | Kraps | loooooooooooooooooooool |
| 14:05.08 | Lopeppeppy | Pointy hat trick |
| 14:05.29 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 14:05.51 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 14:06.26 | alestane | Which indoctrination is that? That we don't necessarily have to harangue, vilify or condemn people for homosexual attitudes or practices? |
| 14:06.33 | Fisker | want to kill me Shirik ? |
| 14:06.38 | Shirik | nope |
| 14:06.43 | airtonix | http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/3/22/129137437326913500.jpg |
| 14:06.49 | Fisker | what if i killed you |
| 14:06.52 | Fisker | would you kill me then? |
| 14:07.03 | airtonix | -_- |
| 14:07.04 | Lopeppeppy | If you insist |
| 14:12.58 | Kraps | "The Patronus is a kind of positive force, a projection of the very things that the Dementor feeds upon â hope, happiness, the desire to survive â but it cannot feel despair, as real humans can, so Dementors can't hurt it." |
| 14:13.15 | [Wobin] | but... |
| 14:13.18 | [Wobin] | can't they eat it? |
| 14:15.02 | Kraps | so its kinda like this http://static.wowhead.com/images/comic/022.jpg |
| 14:16.26 | Kraps | [Wobin]: Patronus' (Patroni?) are ethereal, and Dementors dont eat |
| 14:16.44 | [Wobin] | Kraps, see above 'feed upon' =P |
| 14:17.06 | Kraps | :p yourself :p |
| 14:17.10 | [Wobin] | for despair is not the lack of hope/happiness/survival |
| 14:17.14 | [Wobin] | apathy is |
| 14:17.43 | [Wobin] | So technically they couldn't feel the despair, but since they're pure force, they could be consumed |
| 14:17.56 | [Wobin] | OM NOMNOMNOM |
| 14:18.03 | Lopeppeppy | Remember Joe Bob Briggs, "Anyone can die, at any time." |
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| 14:21.54 | alestane | I would interpret that another way...that it is actually the despair, the dread at the loss of joy, that nourishes the dementor, and that as the Patronus is a sort of font, its inexhaustability makes it unpalatable. For a dementor, a Patronus would be like trying to drink from a fire hose. |
| 14:22.10 | alestane | I'm going to stop being analytical about this now. |
| 14:22.35 | [Wobin] | ah |
| 14:22.39 | [Wobin] | so less OMNOMNOMNOM |
| 14:22.45 | [Wobin] | and more WHARRRGARBL |
| 14:23.05 | Seerah | rofl |
| 14:25.42 | Shirik | ? |
| 14:25.44 | Shirik | o.o |
| 14:26.21 | haste | Shirik the sound of drinking a fire hose |
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| 14:27.01 | [Wobin] | http://ihasahotdog.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/funny-dog-pictures-loldogs-wharrgarbl.jpg |
| 14:27.10 | Shirik | it should be possible to drink from a fire hose |
| 14:27.18 | Shirik | just don't drink everything |
| 14:27.31 | [Wobin] | it might, uh hurt |
| 14:27.38 | Shirik | you wouldn't do it from the front obviously |
| 14:27.38 | Ackis | [Wobin]: imagine if that dog turned around? |
| 14:27.49 | Shirik | instead you would try to catch the stray water that comes out the very edge |
| 14:27.50 | [Wobin] | LBRAGRRRRAHW |
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| 14:29.56 | Ackis | tornados, earthquakes, hurricanes... interesting |
| 14:30.07 | Ackis | (aka we're all fucked) :D |
| 14:31.15 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: http://solutions.vzwshop.com/alanwake/mobile/mtag.aspx <-- free theme for US XBox accounts |
| 14:31.43 | Dagmar | (which prolly has an ad in it) |
| 14:31.46 | Shirik | what is a theme? |
| 14:31.52 | Shirik | and why you did not give to me Ackis |
| 14:31.52 | Shirik | fu |
| 14:32.07 | Ackis | you have an xbox Shirik? :P |
| 14:32.10 | Shirik | ... |
| 14:32.16 | Ackis | snickers |
| 14:32.17 | Shirik | I have you on my friends list |
| 14:32.21 | alestane | Anotingly, while I think this new frappucino commercial is incredibly inane, it does prompt me to think that a frappucino would be tasty right now. |
| 14:32.30 | alestane | Annoyingly* |
| 14:32.53 | Ackis | Shirik: I know Arrowmaster is interested in those little things, I didn't know you were too :P but I linked in the channel so everyone could benefit! |
| 14:32.59 | malreth | digs underground stalking [Wobin], shoots a hose into his chest and inflates him with four pumps of air until he bursts. |
| 14:33.14 | Shirik | I don't know what it is |
| 14:33.51 | Ackis | it changes the background/colours of your NXE profile |
| 14:33.52 | mikma | wobwug: you need a wug? |
| 14:33.58 | Ackis | http://www.themexbox.com |
| 14:34.09 | Ackis | go there, there's a video of the theme |
| 14:34.14 | Shirik | later I have to get to work |
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| 14:34.54 | Lunessa | station |
| 14:35.08 | Shirik | also I am not Lunessa |
| 14:35.12 | malreth | drops a rock onto Lunessa. 1000 points. |
| 14:35.24 | Lunessa | I should hope not Shirik. I'm better -looking. |
| 14:35.30 | Shirik | :( |
| 14:35.51 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy, Lunessa's being mean to me |
| 14:36.54 | malreth | my mental picture of Shirik is a man with a large head |
| 14:37.04 | malreth | i mean... like a brain that's the size of a... planet |
| 14:37.04 | Shirik | .... |
| 14:37.09 | alestane | Someone extract malreth from his Dig Dug emulator? |
| 14:37.23 | malreth | give alestane a basket of fruit |
| 14:37.29 | Ackis | QOTD: "Would love to have a three-way blaze session with Tom Petty and Willie Nelson, and I'm not even much of a pot smoker." |
| 14:37.34 | Lunessa | malreth: Just because they're installing new carpet is no reason for you to be huffing the glue. |
| 14:38.20 | Dagmar | Ackis: " |
| 14:38.23 | malreth | there is no greater hero in the history of mankind than Dig Dug |
| 14:38.28 | Dagmar | Ackis: "You are not prepared!" |
| 14:39.02 | Dagmar | Petty and Nelson would have to tuck them into bed |
| 14:39.04 | Lunessa | What about Benny from Berserk? |
| 14:39.19 | Dagmar | You don't go toe-to-toe with the hardcore if you're a lightweight. |
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| 14:40.50 | Dagmar | Shirik: I found wrongness in your precious Wikipedia |
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| 14:44.23 | Lunessa | http://www.gucomics.com/comic/?cdate=20100527 |
| 14:45.00 | alestane | http://www.textsfromlastnight.com/Text-Replies-17183.html |
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| 14:47.05 | Wobin | hm |
| 14:47.20 | Wobin | what happens if a hunter FD's during Volzaj's Insanity? |
| 14:48.01 | alestane | http://www.duelinganalogs.com/comic/2006/01/10/stupid-dig-dug/ , malreth. |
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| 14:49.59 | Dagmar | Wobin: Mobs stop chasing you for a moment. That['s about it |
| 14:50.20 | Dagmar | They dont' run off and reset or despawn (like you were hoping) |
| 14:50.46 | Wobin | alas |
| 14:50.51 | Wobin | I've never actually tried |
| 14:50.59 | Wobin | cause it was just easier to kill them =P |
| 14:51.01 | Dagmar | So long as you didn't bring a goddamn TREE along, you'll be one of the first out of the gate on that anyway |
| 14:51.29 | Wobin | explosive shot |
| 14:52.09 | Dagmar | I'm guessing by now they've probably rebalanced that to make it not such a forced-s****y-fest if just because you had a tree in the group |
| 14:52.23 | Dagmar | Wobin: No fight should require a particular spec to survive |
| 14:53.25 | Wobin | ok =P |
| 14:53.28 | Wobin | Focus fire then =P |
| 14:53.53 | Dagmar | The three times that's happened to me, I had to put an ice trap on the tree, kill everyone else, and then go back to plugging away at the tree until other people reached my phase |
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| 14:54.11 | airtonix | is this an acceptable ternary format for python(ie have you got something shorter ? ) : (cond and [val_1] or [val_2])[0] |
| 14:54.12 | Dagmar | ...get him halfway down and he just waves those branches and lolheals |
| 14:54.14 | alestane | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/05/27/funny-pictures-quite-what-darwin-thot/ , Peppy. |
| 14:54.57 | Dagmar | I have freaking Aimed Shot now |
| 14:56.13 | airtonix | i think all healers are hard to kill in that phase |
| 14:56.26 | airtonix | people often said they died trying to kill me |
| 14:56.28 | Dagmar | Trees are the only ones I've had problems with |
| 14:56.41 | Wobin | I've not had much issue for a while now |
| 14:56.50 | Dagmar | A "regular" healer can't necessarily c**kblock me on killing *anyone else* in the group at the same time |
| 14:56.59 | airtonix | i just keep people under psychic scream |
| 14:57.11 | Dagmar | The first time I was in there with a tree in heroic we wiped four times in a row |
| 14:57.13 | airtonix | people i mean the mobs |
| 14:57.46 | Wobin | airtonix, they can't break my shield =P |
| 14:57.49 | Dagmar | Blaze away on the mage, tree lolheals. Switch to the warlock, the tree lolheals |
| 14:57.53 | airtonix | when it was first released your shades were a direct 1:1 of you specs, stats and all |
| 14:58.03 | Wobin | airtonix, I remember that |
| 14:58.09 | Wobin | I was in a party with two pallies |
| 14:58.12 | Dagmar | hahah |
| 14:58.16 | Wobin | totally impossible =) |
| 14:58.35 | airtonix | i just told people to take their main hand off when they saw insanity coming and re-quip it just after... the shades ended up without main hands |
| 14:58.44 | Dagmar | Yeah we were pretty pleased about having a well-geared tree in the group, *until we got to that* |
| 15:00.22 | Thunder_Child | AOE works rather well |
| 15:00.47 | Lunessa | alestane: that TFLN sounds like a pretty typical Friday around here. |
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| 15:01.42 | airtonix | how bout this for ternary in python : q=lambda a,b,c: (b,c)[not a] |
| 15:04.30 | airtonix | ffs |
| 15:04.33 | airtonix | for nothing |
| 15:04.39 | airtonix | 2.5 has this now : caseTrue if condition else caseFalse |
| 15:05.08 | Adys | Yeah |
| 15:06.01 | Lunessa | I just slaughter the tree. Not that hard to kill an AI controlled tree as an enhancement shaman. |
| 15:07.00 | airtonix | Fisker, you accidentally the wrong hand |
| 15:07.57 | zenzelezz | http://www.thedailyblink.com/2010/05/guild-propaganda-2/ |
| 15:07.57 | alestane | airtonix, I believe Python has a ternary construct. |
| 15:08.02 | Lopeppeppy | Treeeee! |
| 15:08.10 | airtonix | caseTrue if condition else caseFalse |
| 15:08.18 | airtonix | pretty nice |
| 15:08.25 | alestane | Yes, that. I should have read farther. |
| 15:08.36 | airtonix | what do we use in lua |
| 15:09.07 | airtonix | caseTrue and condition or caseFalse |
| 15:09.09 | olafski | condition and caseTrue or caseFalse |
| 15:09.09 | olafski | damn |
| 15:09.19 | airtonix | you sure ? |
| 15:09.25 | olafski | those would do the same thing |
| 15:09.27 | airtonix | think you're right |
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| 15:09.54 | alestane | Only as long as you make sure that the caseTrue expression can never evaluate to a false condition itself. |
| 15:10.07 | Shirik_ | So, anyone know VB here? I feel dirty using it but I need to for a quick script |
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| 15:10.08 | airtonix | yeah that wouldn't be ideal |
| 15:10.36 | alestane | Which actually makes it even dirtier in Python than in Lua, since so many more "false" values exist in Python. |
| 15:10.39 | Shirik_ | Dim el As EA.Element |
| 15:10.39 | Shirik_ | Temporary Scripts.Trash Loop error: Expected end of statement, Line:6 |
| 15:10.41 | airtonix | unless you want it to forgo any further calc |
| 15:10.48 | Shirik_ | anyone see why that might be invalid? |
| 15:11.17 | alestane | Does it need initilization, or not have a no-args constructor? |
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| 15:11.41 | Shirik_ | I'm not really supposed to be constructing it |
| 15:11.41 | Shirik_ | am I? |
| 15:11.50 | Shirik_ | I just need somewhere to store it |
| 15:11.58 | alestane | I don't know the class in question. |
| 15:12.04 | Shirik_ | I'm going to be doing this: For Each el In element.Elements |
| 15:12.23 | alestane | I don't think you even need to dim that, do you? |
| 15:12.28 | Shirik_ | I don't know |
| 15:12.35 | Shirik_ | I have like no experience with VB |
| 15:12.44 | Shirik_ | with good reason |
| 15:12.56 | alestane | I've barely started learning VB, just our school uses it for their Programming 2 class. |
| 15:13.26 | Shirik_ | this is what I"m looking at right now |
| 15:13.35 | Shirik_ | just a temporary throw-away script to unbreak something |
| 15:13.58 | Adys | !api RequestTrade |
| 15:14.09 | Shirik_ | http://pastey.net/137025-28uw |
| 15:14.33 | Shirik_ | now it's saying Temporary Scripts.Trash Loop error: Expected end of statement, Line:5 |
| 15:14.37 | Shirik_ | which makes no sense because that's a comment |
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| 15:21.38 | alestane | I'm guessing you're actually using VBA? |
| 15:22.01 | Shirik_ | maybe? I dunno |
| 15:22.04 | Shirik_ | it's the "scripting interface" of a program I'm using |
| 15:22.21 | Shirik_ | I thought this would be easy; normally I write C# plugins for it |
| 15:22.35 | Shirik_ | with the same API |
| 15:22.42 | Shirik_ | but this scripting interface lets me do quick things, in theory |
| 15:22.46 | Shirik_ | like this minor glitch |
| 15:23.05 | alestane | Try prefacing that line with an apostrophe instead of a rem...I notice it's doing keyword highlighting on the is at the end, so maybe it's not recognizing your commenting correctly. |
| 15:23.25 | alestane | Although of course, the ghighlighting is coming from pastey.net, not your environment. |
| 15:23.40 | cog|work | Shirik_: stackoverflow.com imo |
| 15:23.40 | alestane | But, still, that might indicate something. |
| 15:24.35 | alestane | This is what I'm used to things like that looking like, Shirik_: http://pastey.net/137027 |
| 15:27.22 | cog|work | Shirik_: did you google the error message? |
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| 15:27.28 | cog|work | http://visualbasic.ittoolbox.com/groups/technical-functional/visualbasic-l/question-about-vbscript-code-expected-end-of-statement-error-2529152 |
| 15:27.47 | cog|work | "VBS doesn't support data types when declaring variables." |
| 15:30.32 | Cide | Shirik_: this is wrong |
| 15:30.42 | Cide | your name is of the wrong color with the underscore |
| 15:31.12 | Shirik_ | fair enough cog|work |
| 15:31.14 | Shirik_ | but now I broke it more |
| 15:31.33 | Shirik_ | I copied one of the sample scripts provided with the app to make mine look like it |
| 15:31.33 | Shirik_ | here's what I got |
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| 15:31.54 | Shirik_ | http://pastey.net/137028 |
| 15:32.25 | Shirik_ | now I get Temporary Scripts.Trash Loop error: Expected statement, Line:3 |
| 15:34.22 | Shirik_ | ah think I got it |
| 15:37.28 | Shirik_ | VB isn't very basic |
| 15:37.30 | Shirik_ | or it's too basic |
| 15:37.32 | Shirik_ | I'm not sure which |
| 15:37.36 | Shirik_ | BASIC wasn't this hard |
| 15:38.32 | alestane | I consider it a blight on the face of programming, but that's me. |
| 15:38.45 | Shirik_ | I especially like errors that tell you exactly what you did wrong but refuse to do it: Temporary Scripts.Trash Loop error: Cannot use parentheses when calling a Sub, Line:17 |
| 15:43.47 | Wobin | ... vb? |
| 15:43.57 | Wobin | ugh |
| 15:43.58 | Wobin | =( |
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| 15:44.32 | Wobin | you're probably better off writing the throwaway script in another language =P |
| 15:48.16 | malreth | use powershell |
| 15:48.40 | Fisker | you got f'd in the a Wobin |
| 15:48.51 | Shirik_ | Wobin: I was getting to that point |
| 15:48.56 | Shirik_ | however I figured it out I think |
| 15:49.02 | Shirik_ | I thought it would be easy since I already knew the API |
| 15:49.22 | Wobin | your first mistake was doing it in VB =) |
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| 15:50.54 | cog|work | http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/05/process_snail/ |
| 15:52.17 | Shirik_ | omg I think it's working |
| 15:52.24 | Kaso | those really do freak me out cog|work |
| 15:52.27 | Shirik_ | or I just did something really bad |
| 15:52.30 | Wobin | cog|work, holy crap |
| 15:52.33 | Fisker | cog|work |
| 15:52.36 | Fisker | i f'd you in the a |
| 15:52.39 | alestane | Was it really necessary to share that? |
| 15:53.03 | malreth | kicks cog|work in his hepatopancreas |
| 15:53.07 | Shirik_ | I'm going to side with "this was irreperably broken" |
| 15:53.22 | alestane | Not that it's not kind of cool in that "We do not discuss nature at the dinner table" sort of way, but... |
| 15:53.29 | cog|work | comes down with hepatitis & diabetes |
| 15:53.39 | Wobin | ... and swollen eyestalks |
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| 15:54.52 | Shirik_ | btw alestane http://pastey.net/137031 |
| 15:55.17 | Shirik_ | unfortunately, this caused the app to realize what I was trying to fix and it fixed it itself |
| 15:55.23 | Shirik_ | by deleting the component entirely ;P |
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| 15:55.32 | Shirik_ | I could have done that with two mouse clicks ._. |
| 15:55.44 | Wobin | and saved yourself an hour of work =P |
| 15:55.53 | Shirik_ | well I didn't want to delete the whole thing |
| 15:55.56 | Shirik_ | just fix the broken part |
| 15:56.04 | Shirik_ | but I think the app went "wtf is this" and deleted teh whole thing |
| 15:56.22 | alestane | http://companystore.yahoo.com/2206020581001.html |
| 15:56.39 | alestane | Especially for Seerah. |
| 15:57.01 | Seerah | oooh |
| 15:57.17 | Wobin | so |
| 15:57.24 | Wobin | what was a good torrent app for windows? |
| 15:58.46 | Wobin | I usually use uTorrent, but I recall some discussion here |
| 15:58.47 | cog|work | uTorrent works for me... |
| 15:59.10 | Fisker | btw cog|work |
| 15:59.18 | Fisker | you can't prove that a god doesn't exist so he does |
| 15:59.45 | cog|work | You can prove that you didn't have sex with a goat |
| 15:59.49 | cog|work | can't |
| 15:59.52 | cog|work | ~fail me |
| 15:59.52 | purl | cog|work, you Fail! |
| 16:00.25 | airtonix | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:00.32 | Lunessa | cog|work: A goat may be Fisker's only partner. Don't be hatin'. the boy gots ta get some luv somehwere. |
| 16:00.32 | Fisker | no but i can prove that i did |
| 16:00.36 | Fisker | so take that cog|work |
| 16:00.39 | Fisker | pwnt |
| 16:00.51 | airtonix | i rest my case |
| 16:01.35 | cog|work | Fisker: you're just jealous because that snail's parasite-infested eye stalks are better-endowed than you |
| 16:02.15 | Fisker | yeah well your mom(the goat) liked it fine yesterday |
| 16:02.45 | Fisker | would 4G/WiMax have a higher latency than cable connections? |
| 16:03.03 | Fisker | wouldn't* |
| 16:03.34 | cog|work | your mom has a high latency! BURNNNNNNNNN!!!!!111one |
| 16:03.42 | cog|work | <.< |
| 16:05.27 | cog|work | o no i di'int |
| 16:05.47 | Alram | Fisker, hi friend |
| 16:06.53 | airtonix | <fisker remains silent> |
| 16:10.51 | Alram | ok its over fisker |
| 16:11.50 | cog|work | sorry... his typing hand is busy rubbing ointment all over the BURNNNNNN! |
| 16:12.10 | cog|work | don't ask what his non-typing hand is doing to his mom... |
| 16:12.39 | airtonix | its contagious |
| 16:12.55 | Fisker | hey Alram |
| 16:13.29 | Fisker | i'm sorry cog|work but i'll have to report you to my psychiatrist |
| 16:13.33 | Fisker | jerk :( |
| 16:13.45 | airtonix | T_T |
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| 16:16.24 | cog|work | aww im sowwy... here's a picture of a unicorn to make you feel better: http://fashionindie.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/exterface_unicorn_03.jpg |
| 16:16.52 | Fisker | you make me happy |
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| 16:20.17 | Kaso | loose the horn and give him some wings and he could be a star pony |
| 16:29.21 | MoonWitch | cog, that is a scary picture |
| 16:30.37 | alestane | Makes me sort of glad that pony play was not my schtick to begin with. |
| 16:31.58 | Adys | wtf is C:\\windows\\system32\\wbem ? |
| 16:32.18 | cog|work | !g c:\windows\system32\wbem |
| 16:32.19 | batbot | cog|work: wmiprvse.exe Windows process - What is it? <http://www.neuber.com/taskmanager/process/wmiprvse.exe.html> |
| 16:33.07 | cog|work | batbot: fail |
| 16:33.25 | cog|work | oh nm ... not fail |
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| 16:33.48 | MoonWitch | can't recall who told me about the US Intl Alternate -- but THANK YOU! |
| 16:34.16 | cog|work | MoonWitch: which picture? the snail or the pony XD |
| 16:34.29 | MoonWitch | pony |
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| 16:41.57 | Lunessa | "For pony." ? |
| 16:42.18 | Shirik_ | For pony! |
| 16:42.27 | alestane | As if it wasn't 'wrong' enough, Lunessa, you had to stack that on top of it. |
| 16:42.40 | Lunessa | alestane: *chuckle* |
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| 16:46.21 | alestane | I use 'wrong' loosely...there is, I'm sure, someone out there somewhere to whom it is oh-so-right. |
| 16:47.01 | malreth | alestane: what a coincidence.. i use 'loosely' wrong |
| 16:49.58 | MoonWitch | I am so confused right now :P |
| 16:50.20 | alestane | That comes with the territory, I'm afraid. |
| 16:50.43 | MoonWitch | ps anyone here experience with hp/samsung laptops and replacement keyboards? (Wanna buy one, need to make sure I can get a qwerty to replace the gay azerty standard here in Belgium) |
| 16:52.20 | Dagmar | Alternate keyboards tend to be nothing more than a silkscreening change |
| 16:52.55 | Dagmar | If HP doesn't list anything but the part numbers for the keyboard, then you almost certainly only need to worry about that particular SKU |
| 16:53.05 | MoonWitch | yeah I know ... But - some companies won't sell them here :( |
| 16:53.12 | MoonWitch | SKU? |
| 16:53.27 | Dagmar | Sorry, merchant slang for "item number" |
| 16:53.35 | MoonWitch | ah |
| 16:54.16 | Dagmar | I'd ask if you checked eBay, but I don't know a thing about shipping to Belgium |
| 16:54.30 | Dagmar | If you can find a seller who'll do it, you'll be able to pick up a different keyboard for a song |
| 16:54.39 | MoonWitch | yeah I know |
| 16:54.53 | MoonWitch | colleague got one from dell 75⬠.. fuck that |
| 16:54.54 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 16:55.15 | Dagmar | Yeah, from the manufacturer they'll cost about that. eBay will be more like $20-30 |
| 16:55.49 | Dagmar | Granted, you'll probably be buying zombie parts from a pilfered laptop, but at least they won't end up in a landfill |
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| 16:57.34 | Dagmar | Installing will be stupid-eady |
| 16:57.37 | Dagmar | s/eady/easy/; |
| 16:58.03 | MoonWitch | yeah I know |
| 16:58.12 | MoonWitch | pop out - unplug - plug - pop in |
| 16:58.17 | Dagmar | Damn it I ne need to stop lookign at ebay |
| 16:58.22 | Dagmar | http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-Power-Vacuum-Cleaner-Fits-HP-Compaq-Laptop-Keyboard-/300408852340?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45f1c34f74#ht_3053wt_2696 |
| 16:58.38 | Dagmar | So nifty, but I already have a handivac that can just about suck the keys off a keyboard |
| 16:59.41 | MoonWitch | nice |
| 16:59.48 | MoonWitch | I should get one too |
| 16:59.50 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 16:59.55 | Kraps | will socket bonuses ever be worth it? |
| 17:00.09 | Dagmar | A small vacuum is way handier than a can of compressed air |
| 17:00.25 | Dagmar | Kraps: It depends on how badly you want to go all myopic about stats |
| 17:01.11 | Dagmar | They're "worth it" now IMHO just because they're free points |
| 17:04.09 | Dagmar | Then again, I think Hunters may be lucky in that respect. All the socket bonuses on my gear are for stats I want. |
| 17:04.44 | Dagmar | They're all for agility, hit rating, or attack power |
| 17:05.55 | Dagmar | I'm not going to refuse to put a +20 atk +15 sta gem in because I rather like not dying |
| 17:06.57 | Dagmar | ...and there's always the Nightmare Tear for the gem socket you find least useful |
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| 17:09.18 | Lunessa | Let the trolling begin: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25134784345&sid=1 |
| 17:09.50 | myrkraverk | hello, when I create a button with parent="MacroFrame" (say) how do I make it show when the macro frame is shown (instead of always and never) |
| 17:10.28 | myrkraverk | <Button name="ScribeMacroFrameTab1" inherits="CharacterFrameTabButtonTemplate" parent="MacroFrame" id="1" text="Default"> |
| 17:10.30 | myrkraverk | is always visible |
| 17:11.36 | NightHawkTheSane | woo! we're /finally/ switching to mercurial. |
| 17:13.09 | Lopeppeppy | lurvs Lunessa! |
| 17:13.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: good luck :) |
| 17:13.26 | Lopeppeppy | I'd troll ya, but I'm forbidden by constitutional dinocracy. |
| 17:13.53 | Lunessa | Because RAWR means I love you in dinosaur? |
| 17:14.02 | Lopeppeppy | Always and forever. |
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| 17:18.02 | Lunessa | *grin* |
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| 17:19.14 | Kraps | Lunessa: my concrete underground bunker is available should you find yourself needing it |
| 17:19.28 | Lunessa | Kraps: Heh. Appreciated. |
| 17:21.08 | Cairenn|afk | WobWork: awwww, baby otterseseses |
| 17:22.34 | Shirik_ | yay, someone did it the right way |
| 17:22.36 | Shirik_ | http://news.discovery.com/tech/robotic-vaccum-cleaner.html |
| 17:24.23 | Dagmar | Too expensive I think |
| 17:24.30 | Shirik_ | perhaps |
| 17:24.42 | Dagmar | You can usually snag a Roomba for less than *half* what that one sells for. |
| 17:24.50 | Shirik_ | yeah |
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| 17:24.55 | Shirik_ | but the Roomba does a crappy job |
| 17:24.58 | Dagmar | ...and clearly the Roombas were built to be easily field-stripped for cleaning. |
| 17:25.04 | Shirik_ | well I take that back |
| 17:25.04 | Dagmar | Mine do a fine job |
| 17:25.09 | Shirik_ | roomba does ok |
| 17:25.11 | Shirik_ | but it does it in the worst way possible |
| 17:25.14 | Dagmar | They *do* eventually cover the entire floor |
| 17:25.18 | Shirik_ | they do |
| 17:26.17 | Dagmar | Being that my involvment in it is pushing the "go" button with my toe on one of them, and the other one crawls out from under my bed while I'm at work, and that I'm not paying them by the hour, I don't really mind if they do it in a bizarre way |
| 17:26.32 | Adys | ~wwquotes |
| 17:26.33 | purl | http://www.teomyr.eu/wowwiki/irc-quotes |
| 17:26.37 | Shirik_ | heh |
| 17:26.42 | Shirik_ | fair enough |
| 17:26.46 | Dagmar | Their later models definitely *see* a lot better than the older ones, too |
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| 17:27.00 | Dagmar | ...although with this means if you're like me and have black area rugs, you have to blind them a little as a result |
| 17:27.14 | Dagmar | They get on that black rug and freak out |
| 17:27.48 | Dagmar | Since I have no steps here, it was easy enough to blind the lowest end of the sensors so they can't see the floor |
| 17:28.20 | Lopeppeppy | Yay, I have no quotes! |
| 17:28.45 | cog|work | Lopeppeppy: that's the wowwiki one |
| 17:28.54 | cog|work | http://www.teomyr.eu/wowuidev/irc-quotes imo ;) |
| 17:29.03 | alestane | What quotes are these that you are pleased not to have...o i c. |
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| 17:40.07 | MoonWitch | goodmorning Cairenn (assuming you just got to the pc) |
| 17:40.16 | Kraps | My hovercraft is full of eels |
| 17:40.17 | Cairenn | morning MoonWitch :) |
| 17:40.39 | MoonWitch | I wanna go to vegas |
| 17:41.00 | cog|work | QQ |
| 17:41.13 | Fisker | hey cog|work |
| 17:41.14 | cog|work | i wanna go back |
| 17:41.26 | cog|work | not enough $ atm though |
| 17:41.46 | Lopeppeppy | crap! |
| 17:42.08 | Lunessa | I want to drop thermonuclear devices on Vegas by hacking the DOD using an acoustic coupling modem and a C64. |
| 17:42.09 | MoonWitch | yah same issue |
| 17:42.10 | cog|work | carp! |
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| 17:42.21 | MoonWitch | that and it would cost me 1k to even get there lol |
| 17:42.34 | MoonWitch | Lunessa: I love you |
| 17:42.53 | MoonWitch | (yes I'm weird and yes, my teachers used to fear me a lot) |
| 17:43.01 | Lunessa | looks nothing like Matthew Broderick |
| 17:43.07 | MoonWitch | that's ok ;) |
| 17:43.20 | MoonWitch | If you look like Cairenn, it's all good :P |
| 17:43.32 | Cairenn | purrs at MoonWitch |
| 17:43.35 | cog|work | he looks nothing like Cairenn >< |
| 17:43.42 | Fisker | slaps cog|work around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:43.45 | MoonWitch | aww *disappointed look* |
| 17:43.53 | MoonWitch | purrs at Cairenn |
| 17:43.56 | Lunessa | ... that would require extensive surgery for gender reassignment and a lot of cosmetic work. |
| 17:43.58 | cog|work | emphasis on the "he" :P |
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| 17:44.27 | Lunessa | is /very/ male. |
| 17:44.35 | MoonWitch | I know, Cog ... but still I can live on hope |
| 17:44.37 | Cairenn | likes him that way |
| 17:44.43 | Kraps | My postillion has been struck by lightning |
| 17:45.00 | Cairenn | but, Cairenn also likes MoonWitch her way |
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| 17:45.22 | MoonWitch | I actually like most ppl their way, because uniqueness is sexy :) |
| 17:45.23 | Lunessa | Can you feel the love tonight? |
| 17:45.34 | Cairenn | MoonWitch: indeed! |
| 17:46.11 | cog|work | 'cept maybe Fisker's brand of unique |
| 17:46.16 | airtonix | fisker, how goeth the goat ? |
| 17:46.16 | cog|work | :> |
| 17:46.23 | MoonWitch | ok cog - ya got a point |
| 17:47.16 | cog|work | Fisker: you've trained us well in the art of Troll. We shall now overthrow you. |
| 17:47.27 | Cairenn | :) |
| 17:55.25 | MoonWitch | laying down watching csi |
| 17:55.32 | MoonWitch | what's wrong with that picture? |
| 17:55.47 | Cairenn | rather likes it |
| 17:55.56 | MoonWitch | which part ;) |
| 17:56.04 | MoonWitch | (sorry, it'll wear off) |
| 17:56.09 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 17:56.29 | Fisker | you cannot cog|work |
| 17:58.14 | Lunessa | ... MoonWitch Every male in here had just one question... |
| 17:58.41 | MoonWitch | I know, I was waiting for one of them to say it -- |
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| 17:59.29 | MoonWitch | hey Torhal |
| 18:00.01 | Lunessa | Far be it from me to ask such things in a public channel. But it doesn't mean I don't /think/ them. :P |
| 18:00.25 | MoonWitch | I just realized that only one person in here has seen me |
| 18:00.32 | MoonWitch | cuz I don't think Seerah ever did |
| 18:00.41 | MoonWitch | ckknight .. he knows what I look like |
| 18:05.16 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: the only question i had/have is ".. where did all my tea go?" |
| 18:05.28 | MoonWitch | NightHawkTheSane: I didn't do it |
| 18:06.16 | NightHawkTheSane | thats ok. I'm pretty sure it was me. |
| 18:06.24 | cog|work | Hmm... If I had to stereotype.... Let's see now, she intimidated her teachers, likes horror movies and other shows with dead people, and is a geeky female... |
| 18:06.31 | MoonWitch | good, I wouldn't want to be held responsible for your tea |
| 18:06.43 | MoonWitch | go on cog |
| 18:06.44 | cog|work | you must be abby from NCIS |
| 18:06.51 | NightHawkTheSane | MoonWitch: oh, i'll still hold you responsible :P |
| 18:06.51 | MoonWitch | I like her a lot |
| 18:06.54 | cog|work | :P |
| 18:07.31 | MoonWitch | and yes, if I could pass the physical, I would join the technical recherche ;) (aka CSI here in Belgium) |
| 18:10.52 | NightHawkTheSane | hmm. do I bother going through the effort of actually checking to make sure properties exist before using them, or just stick a @ in front of it to suppress the notices, and call it good... |
| 18:11.07 | MoonWitch | opt for the latter |
| 18:11.16 | Lunessa | Where's all the rum gone? |
| 18:11.28 | NightHawkTheSane | I dunno, every time i use an @ for that I feel like i should be eaten by a raptor |
| 18:11.47 | MoonWitch | well you see - for you being eaten isn't pleasant |
| 18:12.02 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: You should. But only after being dipped ina vat hot hot McDonald's fry greese. |
| 18:12.13 | MoonWitch | I - however - am female and do not necessarily consider this an issue. |
| 18:12.28 | Cairenn | *snark* |
| 18:12.33 | NightHawkTheSane | ... |
| 18:12.39 | MoonWitch | what Cairenn? |
| 18:12.48 | NightHawkTheSane | part of me wants to comment on how probably unpleasant it would be to be eaten by a raptor, regardless of sex. |
| 18:12.54 | NightHawkTheSane | the other part of me feels like I just got owned. |
| 18:13.29 | MoonWitch | what's the rating in this channel btw? |
| 18:13.35 | Cairenn | hehehehe |
| 18:13.39 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm.... NC17? Ish? |
| 18:13.45 | Legorol | adult, but please precede any saucy links with NSFW |
| 18:13.46 | Cairenn | don't go triple x |
| 18:13.54 | MoonWitch | alright |
| 18:14.06 | MoonWitch | I'll do what I did in USI -- dim the lights |
| 18:14.17 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 18:14.21 | MoonWitch | I used to play an email based RPG - in which even kissing was abit much |
| 18:14.30 | MoonWitch | my character : a lesbian nympho |
| 18:14.42 | Fisker | give quadruple x |
| 18:14.48 | MoonWitch | try accomplishing that one on a G rating game ;) |
| 18:15.47 | Fisker | cog|work |
| 18:15.51 | Lunessa | Why? Just bust out the camera and open a web site. :P |
| 18:15.53 | Fisker | are you getting SC2: CE? |
| 18:16.00 | MoonWitch | so Cairenn, what was the snark for ? |
| 18:16.00 | cog|work | i'm a lesbian nympho trapped in a man's body |
| 18:16.03 | Dashkal | Does anybody know offhand what the reputation spillover ratio is when gaining rep for one of a group? |
| 18:16.21 | MoonWitch | Dashkal: no clue .. I think half or something? |
| 18:16.23 | Cairenn | MoonWitch: rofl, like you don't know? |
| 18:16.26 | Lunessa | Dashkal: I think it's 1/10? But don't have any references. |
| 18:16.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Dashkal: 1/4 i thought |
| 18:16.32 | Fisker | answer me cog|work |
| 18:16.36 | NightHawkTheSane | I bet wowwiki knows |
| 18:16.57 | cog|work | Fisker: maybe if you buy it for me |
| 18:17.02 | Fisker | i won't |
| 18:17.11 | Dashkal | Probably, but my computer doesn't have enough ram to handle wowwiki on top of everything else I have going :P |
| 18:18.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Dashkal: well you should probably close something else, then ;) and yeah, wowwiki does indeed know |
| 18:18.53 | Dashkal | It's pretty much wow itself that's destroying my poor system. 1.5 gigs is just not enough anymore. |
| 18:19.00 | Dashkal | Must...upgrade! |
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| 18:20.30 | Seerah | MoonWitch: do pictures count? |
| 18:20.33 | NightHawkTheSane | yikes, yeah, thats kinda low |
| 18:23.05 | Lunessa | Computers with less than 4gigs make me a sad panda. |
| 18:23.33 | cog|work | Dashkal: what type of memory does your computer use? |
| 18:23.37 | Dashkal | Oh hell, I'm jumping to 8 when I upgrade |
| 18:23.43 | Dashkal | ddr (sighs) 1 |
| 18:25.05 | Lunessa | I want to put more than 4gb RAM in my current box, but ... the mobo won't deal, so it means I'll just replace instead of piecemeal upgrade. |
| 18:25.32 | cog|work | you should grab a couple cheap 1g sticks until you can do a more thorough upgrade imo... you'll see a very noticeable difference once you break 2g |
| 18:25.38 | cog|work | (assuming you're in XP) |
| 18:25.39 | Lunessa | The machine is getting kind of long in the tooth anyway. |
| 18:25.44 | Dashkal | *nods* That's what'ss topping me from upgrading. ddr1 is not cheap. It's as much as 3 now |
| 18:26.01 | Dashkal | ubuntu. the winxp boot is just for steam games |
| 18:26.08 | cog|work | yeah, not enough demand for it any more i s'pose |
| 18:26.53 | Seerah | I wonder if it would be worth it to find some used... from people upgrading their computers |
| 18:27.04 | Dashkal | I've been looking around :P |
| 18:27.24 | Dashkal | Buuuut. If all goes well, I'll be able to upgrade in 1-2 weeks. Depends on a contract I'm flirting with |
| 18:27.38 | Dashkal | If not. Yeah, finding some used may be the way to tide me over |
| 18:27.47 | Seerah | I thought that "contact" :)said |
| 18:27.55 | cog|work | be sure to use protection if it gets serious ;) |
| 18:28.04 | Dashkal | heh. of course! |
| 18:28.05 | Seerah | oops - "said contact" |
| 18:28.21 | cog|work | said "contact" ? |
| 18:28.47 | NightHawkTheSane | Seerah: that was a hell of a typo :P |
| 18:29.24 | Seerah | NHTS: I was typing with one hand while holding lunch in the other. went back to fix something and forgot to put cursor back at the end... :p |
| 18:29.29 | Lunessa | Dashkal: I might have some old sticks of DDR1. Let me check when I get home. Remind me. If I do, you can have them. |
| 18:29.58 | Seerah | remind me - are there different types of DDR1 like there are of 2 and 3? |
| 18:30.15 | Lunessa | tends to hold onto RAM and other 'good bits' |
| 18:30.58 | NightHawkTheSane | i tend to hold on to anything with circuits.. i'm... kinda bad about that that |
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| 18:31.17 | Dashkal | That would be much appreciated. And I do the same thing. I have a small graveyard of towers. |
| 18:31.19 | NightHawkTheSane | still has his old 3g ipod, and his two previous cell phones |
| 18:31.39 | Dashkal | Long as I keep them out of site, my SO doesn't bug me about them :P |
| 18:31.48 | Dashkal | sight* |
| 18:32.27 | Lunessa | Yeah, I recently threw out a box of 28.8 modems, and ISDN adaptor and a host of devices like a USD 1.0 CD burner (2x speed! WOO) and a flash-memory-card reader for a format that hasn't been sold in 5+ years. |
| 18:32.52 | Lunessa | USB, not USD |
| 18:32.54 | Fisker | touches Lunessa first |
| 18:33.08 | Fisker | Universal Serial DUH |
| 18:33.39 | MoonWitch | Seerah !! *hug* |
| 18:34.14 | Seerah | hugs MoonWitch |
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| 18:51.29 | Dashkal | exit |
| 18:51.44 | cog|work | cd d:\porn |
| 18:52.06 | cog|work | ~poke Dashkal |
| 18:52.07 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Dashkal, pokes Dashkal repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 18:52.23 | Lunessa | Someone bring me a ruben and salt & vinegar chips? |
| 18:52.45 | alestane | Depends how long you want to wait, man. |
| 18:52.51 | cog|work | ^ |
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| 18:55.40 | Lunessa | alestane: Hrm, I have a low patience quotient when it comes to waiting for food. |
| 18:57.59 | Dashkal | Wrong terminal :P |
| 19:05.45 | alestane | "Our new, simple privacy controls make it easier to share exactly how you want. Your privacy settings are still the same. Learn more" |
| 19:05.57 | alestane | Apparently Facebook has been paying at least a modicum of attention. |
| 19:07.03 | Fisker | oh my |
| 19:07.05 | Fisker | gary coleman is dead |
| 19:07.43 | Seerah | ah, I see... http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/TV/05/28/obit.gary.coleman/index.html?section=cnn_latest |
| 19:08.54 | alestane | I just saw that/ |
| 19:11.22 | MoonWitch | apparently yes |
| 19:12.47 | alestane | I've lost track by now of what you're answering. |
| 19:13.03 | Fisker | haste |
| 19:13.06 | Fisker | i want to kill people |
| 19:14.20 | haste | Fisker: just do it! |
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| 19:15.16 | NightHawkTheSane | alestane: yeah, simpler, so now it's the choice of "share everything with everyone; share everything with your friends, and any advertisers who pay us enough; share nothing, except whatever we want to share with whoever we want to share it." |
| 19:15.41 | Fisker | haste :( |
| 19:15.49 | Fisker | someone wrote "au2" instead of "auto" |
| 19:15.50 | Fisker | i raged |
| 19:16.25 | alestane | I haven't actually looked at the changes. But balancing usability and versatility is always a trick. |
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| 19:16.46 | Cide | shirik! |
| 19:16.52 | Cide | they gave us another week of beta |
| 19:17.00 | NightHawkTheSane | alestane: yeah. but i'd be happy if the options did what they said they did, instead of not. |
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| 19:21.12 | Lunessa | Facebook should rename themselves ExposeBook |
| 19:21.31 | Thunder_Child | Cide: i would reccomend trying out some wild strats |
| 19:22.47 | Cide | I went dual DT rush with a friend yesterday |
| 19:22.49 | Cide | we went 6-0 |
| 19:22.59 | Cide | it was all placement matches sadly |
| 19:23.01 | Fisker | they might as well not release it |
| 19:23.03 | Cide | so it was vs dumbnuts |
| 19:23.08 | Cide | why not? |
| 19:23.18 | Fisker | because they fucked battle.net up |
| 19:23.24 | Cide | rofl |
| 19:23.33 | Cide | lack of chat channels? |
| 19:23.36 | Cide | which is coming |
| 19:23.40 | Fisker | no |
| 19:23.48 | Cide | all I hear is QQ |
| 19:24.06 | Fisker | It's region restricted, map publishing to a max of 5 maps, 10MB each to a total of 20MB, region restricted maps too |
| 19:24.13 | Fisker | = fuck you mappers, we hate you. |
| 19:24.26 | Cide | ... |
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| 19:24.34 | Fisker | you know what's hilarious? |
| 19:24.38 | Thunder_Child | actually the fact that SC2 failed hard when the upper vs. were enabled says something as well |
| 19:24.38 | Cide | you |
| 19:24.40 | Fisker | Their filters are fucked up too :D |
| 19:24.45 | Fisker | They don't want people abusing words |
| 19:25.07 | Fisker | so such things such as "Back" and "Support" and "Blizzard" (and far more worse examples) are blocked from any game text entry |
| 19:25.23 | foxlit | So if you were to pull your "Super Duper Map 42" off your 5-slot storage |
| 19:25.28 | foxlit | People wouldn't be able to play it? |
| 19:26.04 | foxlit | That somehow seems weird. |
| 19:27.33 | Thunder_Child | he said published |
| 19:27.43 | Thunder_Child | eg. you can only have 5 up at a time for sale (i think) |
| 19:28.06 | Thunder_Child | or ever possibly |
| 19:28.25 | foxlit | It's weird to read "published" as "for sale" |
| 19:28.38 | Thunder_Child | for sale/for download |
| 19:28.43 | Thunder_Child | w/e |
| 19:29.27 | Fisker | that's not how it works now Thunder_Child |
| 19:29.29 | Fisker | 5 maps total |
| 19:29.39 | Fisker | removing any map also removes it from ever being played or uploaded again |
| 19:29.48 | Fisker | (uploaded under the same name anyway) |
| 19:30.04 | foxlit | "ever being played" << even copies that people downloaded? |
| 19:30.13 | Fisker | Only if you use hax |
| 19:30.15 | Thunder_Child | maybe it has a cap right now so it doesnt break the game as soon as it's released? |
| 19:30.18 | Fisker | then you can play the cache |
| 19:30.26 | Thunder_Child | and it will grow in time? |
| 19:30.29 | Fisker | otherwise no, it'll check with battle.net if it's available |
| 19:30.45 | Fisker | you'd think they'd be out saying "Don't worry, our limits in the beta is only for testing" then |
| 19:30.48 | foxlit | Thunder_Child: some limit to filter the amount of junk you can publish is good. |
| 19:30.58 | Fisker | Though i figure i atleast trust Blizzard enough to get there eventually |
| 19:31.11 | Thunder_Child | i meant for release |
| 19:31.14 | foxlit | Perhaps they'll eventually add additional slots for "hey, people actually like this stuff" |
| 19:31.50 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: it's a toss up, i do want some oversight but i really dont want it to devolve into the app store |
| 19:34.39 | Fisker | they better open up map publishing and real id without region restrictions though |
| 19:34.46 | Lunessa | Battle.Net new feature Pizza - login and select your toppings. A local Blizzard-approved pizza company will deliver a hot, fresh pie to your door to fuel you next match! |
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| 19:35.45 | MoonWitch | I'd actually use that service |
| 19:35.46 | MoonWitch | lol |
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| 19:36.46 | Lunessa | Blizzard branded pizza? Youfuckinbetcha |
| 19:36.53 | MoonWitch | uh huh |
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| 19:41.03 | NeoTron | Lunessa: where where? |
| 19:41.15 | NeoTron | do you build up your base to tech up for different toppings? |
| 19:41.32 | MoonWitch | lol " honorpoints for pizza" |
| 19:41.41 | MoonWitch | and new sizes can be purchased with emblems |
| 19:42.00 | Lunessa | NeoTron: it's a feature you unlock by crushing your enemies, seeing them driven before you and hearing the lamentations of their women. |
| 19:42.04 | Thunder_Child | ~ping |
| 19:42.05 | purl | ~pong |
| 19:42.18 | MoonWitch | mmm lamentations of women |
| 19:43.52 | Fisker | i'd jump the honorpoint for pizza bandwagon |
| 19:44.05 | Fisker | i'm so hungry |
| 19:44.13 | alestane | There is a relevant CAD strip that I cannot find. |
| 19:45.05 | Fisker | http://www.urlesque.com/2010/05/26/teenage-werewolves-video/?feedItemId=20293&siteId=73 <-fukken furries |
| 19:45.08 | Fisker | yiff yiff |
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| 19:48.35 | alestane | Here we go... http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20050221 |
| 19:50.18 | MoonWitch | damn you alestane now I am stuck reading it all |
| 19:50.21 | alestane | The /pizza command apparently may have been a real thing, although it would just cause EQ2 to open a browser. |
| 19:50.38 | alestane | I take no responsibility for that...that strip is a singleton. |
| 19:52.58 | Thunder_Child | thats not how it works alestane, you should know better than that |
| 19:54.13 | Fisker | btw cog|work |
| 19:54.17 | Fisker | i got it all figured out now |
| 19:54.24 | Fisker | You were that guy in SC2 that called me a goatfucker eh? |
| 19:54.49 | cog|work | i haven't played SC2 since april i think |
| 19:55.02 | Fisker | Was a long time ago |
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| 19:55.06 | Fisker | i think it was you |
| 19:55.07 | MoonWitch | I thought " Men who stare at goats" was the last I'd hear about goats |
| 19:55.17 | Fisker | that was a fucked up movie btw |
| 19:55.22 | Fisker | in a kinda good way |
| 19:55.37 | MoonWitch | indeed - no matter how shocked I am that I am in agreement |
| 19:55.50 | cog|work | giggles |
| 19:56.08 | Thunder_Child | giggles? really... |
| 19:56.35 | cog|work | <-- gnome |
| 19:56.51 | Thunder_Child | <-- disturbed |
| 19:57.04 | MoonWitch | <-- disturbing |
| 19:57.21 | cog|work | <-- arrow |
| 19:57.30 | MoonWitch | <-- very sexy |
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| 19:57.46 | alestane | One of my old guildmates could duplicate the female gnome "Charge forth!" over vent with frightening accuracy...the more so since the player was a 30-ish guy from somewhere around South Carolina. |
| 19:57.54 | MoonWitch | wow |
| 19:57.59 | MoonWitch | frightening |
| 19:58.03 | alestane | That was random, MoonWitch. |
| 19:59.12 | Thunder_Child | and by the way cog|work, you are prolly the tallest gnome in existance then |
| 19:59.12 | cog|work | alestane: i've concluded she's on a mission to asplode all the straight/bi guys heads in here... |
| 19:59.12 | alestane | That's entirely possible. |
| 19:59.12 | Thunder_Child | how do you figure that? |
| 19:59.12 | malreth | curiously, i'm a "buy-sexual" |
| 19:59.12 | MoonWitch | I am teaming up with Cairenn though :) And I've included Seerah. |
| 19:59.12 | NightHawkTheSane | in that you have to pay for it, malreth? |
| 19:59.26 | malreth | taps on his nose while winking at NightHawkTheSane |
| 19:59.32 | alestane | Actually, I thought she might be an old friend of mine for a while, but living in Belgium and having a nine-year-old sister make that very unlikely. |
| 19:59.41 | NightHawkTheSane | malreth: must get expensive for you :( |
| 19:59.42 | MoonWitch | most likely yes. |
| 20:01.57 | malreth | ~yuri |
| 20:02.00 | Lunessa | alestane: You have to listen to seerah do the "I apologize..." speech - she does it FRIGHTENINGLY well. |
| 20:02.03 | Fisker | haste |
| 20:02.07 | Fisker | GET DAAAAAAAAUWN |
| 20:02.12 | Fisker | RAVENCREST IS DAUUUUUAWN |
| 20:02.15 | Fisker | GET TO DA CHOPPA |
| 20:02.28 | Fisker | (serverofflinerage) |
| 20:02.28 | MoonWitch | She gives speeches on apoligizing? |
| 20:02.36 | cog|work | gnome /sorry |
| 20:02.43 | alestane | The one that goes, "I apologize profusely for any inconvenience my murderous rampage may have caused."? |
| 20:02.47 | Lunessa | Yes. That one. |
| 20:02.55 | MoonWitch | oh *that* one |
| 20:02.59 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: despite what the papers report capslock is not cruise controll for cool |
| 20:03.12 | Lunessa | And Seerah has it DOWN. I mean, I thought she was playing a recording the first time. |
| 20:03.12 | cog|work | Thunder_Child: what is this "papers" you speak of? |
| 20:03.29 | MoonWitch | I've tried connecting at work :( They block IRC (bastards) |
| 20:03.32 | Thunder_Child | cog|work: dead trees with ink on them |
| 20:03.41 | alestane | Actually, I bugged out a few eyes from some of the other UI folks at BlizzCon '08. |
| 20:03.43 | Thunder_Child | MoonWitch: webirc it then |
| 20:03.53 | MoonWitch | yeah .. gotta find a nice one |
| 20:03.55 | alestane | That's what http://webchat.freenode.net/ is for. |
| 20:03.59 | MoonWitch | :D |
| 20:04.03 | MoonWitch | *grin* |
| 20:04.05 | *** join/#wowuidev malreth (~triti@dhcp-128-83-186-188.its.utexas.edu) |
| 20:04.18 | MoonWitch | /facepalm |
| 20:04.20 | cog|work | omg malreth you missed a lot |
| 20:04.22 | Lunessa | reboots malreth |
| 20:04.28 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 20:04.30 | NightHawkTheSane | MoonWitch: run irssi in screen on a remote host, and ssh ;) |
| 20:04.31 | malreth | it always happens |
| 20:04.31 | Thunder_Child | i thought it was http://java.freenode.net/ |
| 20:04.43 | MoonWitch | yeah gotta set it up on my pc ;) |
| 20:04.54 | malreth | i can't remember half the factoids i set up for purl |
| 20:05.07 | malreth | purl, yuri Lunessa |
| 20:05.08 | purl | ACTION and Lunessa exchange sweet, long glances at each other amidst a background of pastel flowers and that's all that ever happens. Ever. |
| 20:05.13 | malreth | oh, there it is |
| 20:05.24 | NightHawkTheSane | nice |
| 20:05.27 | MoonWitch | is there a list somewhere? |
| 20:05.28 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 20:05.37 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 20:05.37 | MoonWitch | I can't even remember basic stuff with purl |
| 20:05.44 | malreth | purl, yaoi NightHawkTheSane |
| 20:05.45 | purl | ACTION acts all interested in NightHawkTheSane but really it's just a whole bunch of angst with no naked payoff in the end. Figures. |
| 20:05.49 | Lunessa | malreth set up some... unusual factoids. |
| 20:05.51 | malreth | figures |
| 20:06.00 | MoonWitch | alrighty |
| 20:06.04 | MoonWitch | purl do something |
| 20:06.05 | purl | ACTION does something. |
| 20:06.19 | MoonWitch | (I have no clue about purl btw) |
| 20:06.27 | malreth | purl is well constructed |
| 20:06.54 | alestane | Why do I suddenly want to find purl 30,000 friends? |
| 20:07.05 | malreth | alestane: because you are awesome |
| 20:07.19 | MoonWitch | purl, who is sexy |
| 20:07.20 | purl | "I'm bringing sexy back..." |
| 20:07.20 | foxlit | Random SC2 4v4 is such a luck-based game. |
| 20:07.26 | Thunder_Child | purl do MoonWitch |
| 20:07.27 | purl | ACTION does MoonWitch. |
| 20:07.40 | MoonWitch | purl, don't make Cairenn jealous! |
| 20:07.50 | alestane | That was, like, one of the five series we had available when we started the college anime society. |
| 20:08.04 | malreth | alestane: it's a thoroughly depressing anime |
| 20:08.12 | alestane | I've never actually seen the end. |
| 20:08.16 | malreth | well... maybe not 'thoroughly' |
| 20:08.31 | alestane | It gets pretty creepy along the way, though, yes. |
| 20:08.42 | malreth | i'll spoil it for you. her entire life was a lie |
| 20:08.57 | alestane | I sort of guessed that much already. |
| 20:09.13 | alestane | I think we got through 4/6 or something. |
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| 20:11.01 | Lunessa | The problems with hanging out with Malreth are: his large number of attractive mistresses, his extensive animae collection, and Austin traffic on Friday nights. |
| 20:11.10 | MoonWitch | mistresses? |
| 20:11.15 | MoonWitch | you haz my attention |
| 20:11.19 | Lunessa | Oh, and lately he forgets to being the damned camera. |
| 20:11.27 | Lunessa | bring |
| 20:11.32 | malreth | i had to let one of them go... she found an actual boyfriend |
| 20:11.50 | Lunessa | you're slipping! |
| 20:12.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: i fail to see how that second one is a problem |
| 20:12.16 | NightHawkTheSane | also, i think i need to do an anime binge this weekend |
| 20:12.55 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: The issue lies in his insisting I watch episode #30 before I've got any clue about the series. |
| 20:12.57 | NightHawkTheSane | has 3 seasons of slayers and a few you're under arrest dvds to watch yet |
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| 20:13.21 | alestane | Disclaimer: I seem to recall that "mistresses" was how his wife referred to several female friends he had. |
| 20:13.24 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: pfft. just insist on watching from the start ;) |
| 20:13.36 | harl | grüße |
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| 20:13.37 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik__] by ChanServ |
| 20:13.44 | Shirik__ | heh |
| 20:13.49 | Shirik__ | Chrome gets mad when it crashes |
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| 20:14.00 | Shirik__ | well, more of shock and awe |
| 20:14.01 | Shirik__ | not mad |
| 20:14.13 | Lunessa | You must be doing horrid things to it. |
| 20:14.19 | NightHawkTheSane | you know, i can't say i've had chrome crash |
| 20:14.22 | alestane | You need a serial underscorectomy, Shirik. |
| 20:14.53 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: You're not really trying. Open ten tabs with flash video at once and wait |
| 20:15.10 | Thunder_Child | i have had chrome crash quite a bit |
| 20:15.31 | Lunessa | Dagmar: I can't focus on that much porn at once. |
| 20:15.34 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: meh, i didn't say i was. i dont see a reason to do silly things like that |
| 20:16.22 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane: my guilds name is Pacifist Crush |
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| 20:16.50 | Shirik__ | NightHawkTheSane: It wasn't really chrome's fault |
| 20:16.53 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: ... er, k? how is this related to anything? |
| 20:17.00 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane: Slayers |
| 20:17.12 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: oh! well, in that case, awesome. :) |
| 20:17.19 | NightHawkTheSane | had totally forgotten that line of conversation already :P |
| 20:19.16 | alestane | Better than "Goodwill toward Men Smash" or whatever the other one was. |
| 20:19.35 | Dagmar | Two sites with irritating flash video sidebars is really all it takes |
| 20:19.37 | Dagmar | Flash is the weak point |
| 20:20.12 | Thunder_Child | me and a friend actually started working on a D&D class based around that char, the names we came up with for abilitys are amazing |
| 20:20.22 | Thunder_Child | abilities* |
| 20:20.42 | Lunessa | The benefits to hanging out with Malreth include; his extensive number of mistresses, his extensive collection of animae, his brilliant taste in eateries, and finally his remarkable friends with good taste in booze. |
| 20:21.01 | malreth | eh, i just get lucky sometimes |
| 20:21.11 | Lunessa | The oyster place rocked. |
| 20:21.16 | malreth | with the eats and the booze... not with the mistressessesses |
| 20:21.34 | malreth | also, you can't spell mistress without stress |
| 20:21.57 | malreth | I love Parkside. they have an awesome chef |
| 20:22.00 | MoonWitch | focus back to irc |
| 20:22.09 | Cairenn | You can't spell jerk without malreth |
| 20:22.13 | Cairenn | :p |
| 20:22.18 | malreth | loves Cairenn |
| 20:22.19 | Lunessa | Parkside made a pretty good manhattan too. |
| 20:22.24 | MoonWitch | focusses on Cairenn /purrs @her |
| 20:22.27 | MoonWitch | wb |
| 20:22.27 | Cairenn | loves malreth |
| 20:22.28 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 20:22.43 | malreth | that actually made me laugh out loud |
| 20:23.20 | malreth | ~dict scrofula |
| 20:23.43 | MoonWitch | I don't even want to know why you dict that |
| 20:23.59 | malreth | it's your SAT word of the day |
| 20:24.22 | malreth | memorize that word and you can be smart and go to college and be smart |
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| 20:25.01 | *** join/#wowuidev Kaw_ (~Pasha@host86-136-80-140.range86-136.btcentralplus.com) |
| 20:25.05 | Kaw_ | hey guys |
| 20:25.13 | cog|work | ohai |
| 20:25.17 | alestane | ~welcome |
| 20:25.18 | purl | It's great to be here! |
| 20:25.19 | Kaw_ | anyone is good with lua? |
| 20:25.30 | malreth | the crows seem to be calling his name, thought Kaw_ |
| 20:25.34 | Kaw_ | thanks for a welcome just got this address ;p suggested by a mate |
| 20:25.43 | alestane | Can't swing a dead cat in here without hitting a Lua expert. |
| 20:25.46 | MoonWitch | I probably have a negative SAT score |
| 20:26.10 | Kaw_ | hahahaha, well yeah i am kinda new to lua, though progressing |
| 20:26.11 | malreth | i've given up Lua. i'm writing all of my addons in Bash |
| 20:26.23 | MoonWitch | malreth, you are my new idol :P |
| 20:26.51 | Kaw_ | i am currently going to start on my raid config ;p and might need somehelp |
| 20:27.13 | MoonWitch | which raid |
| 20:27.45 | Kaw_ | this is what my ui looks like now, http://www.wowuigallery.com/topic/kaw-ui-v2, and as you can see my party frames in the last shot, i would like them to change and becomes smaller if there are 10 members in my raid, if 15 i would like them to change layout.... is tha tpossible? |
| 20:28.05 | Kaw_ | change layout and become smaller* |
| 20:28.09 | MoonWitch | getpartynumbers or something and longer if statement? |
| 20:28.39 | Kaw_ | you wanna c my code? |
| 20:28.52 | cog|work | http://wowuidev.pastey.net |
| 20:28.57 | MoonWitch | sure but I suck at coding |
| 20:29.13 | alestane | ...must...not...snark.... |
| 20:29.31 | MoonWitch | alestane: don't snark at me young man |
| 20:30.12 | Kaw_ | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/137032 |
| 20:30.13 | Kaw_ | there ;p |
| 20:30.29 | Lunessa | ... snarks your boojums while chasing a snipe ... |
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| 20:31.49 | Kaw_ | anyone wanna chat 1v1? if you would like to help? |
| 20:32.01 | MoonWitch | we're into groupevents :) |
| 20:32.32 | malreth | approves |
| 20:32.58 | malreth | also, we may be Lua experts but we're also dirty bastards |
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| 20:33.21 | Kaw_ | hahahaa |
| 20:33.34 | Kaw_ | ill have to get used to it then |
| 20:33.48 | alestane | It should be possible, Kaw_, but it's probably not trivial. It may be easier to have two sets of unit frames and show or hide the ones you want depending on your group. |
| 20:34.00 | cog|work | +1 |
| 20:34.28 | alestane | The layout change may be a bit easier, depending on what you're hoping for. |
| 20:34.52 | alestane | master-loots cog|work a +1 sword of obviousness. |
| 20:35.02 | Arrowmaster | what the fuck |
| 20:35.03 | Arrowmaster | http://www.wowace.com/addons/cartographer/tickets/332-no-longer-works/ |
| 20:35.08 | Arrowmaster | seriously what the fuck |
| 20:35.17 | Kaw_ | would i have to show/hide the sets of unit frames manually or ? |
| 20:35.18 | MoonWitch | also -- local numRaid = GetNumRaidMembers() |
| 20:35.18 | MoonWitch | if numRaid < 10 then |
| 20:35.18 | MoonWitch | -- setup frames |
| 20:35.18 | MoonWitch | elseif numRaid < 15 then |
| 20:35.18 | MoonWitch | -- setup |
| 20:35.19 | MoonWitch | else |
| 20:35.19 | MoonWitch | -- setup for numRaid > 15 |
| 20:35.20 | MoonWitch | end |
| 20:35.22 | MoonWitch | OOPS |
| 20:35.31 | MoonWitch | sorry - wasn't planning on doing that |
| 20:35.33 | cog|work | ima eat you MoonWitch |
| 20:35.38 | cog|work | rawr |
| 20:35.42 | cog|work | SPAMMER! |
| 20:35.44 | cog|work | >< |
| 20:35.58 | MoonWitch | yeah, sorry guys and gals -- was accidental |
| 20:36.04 | alestane | Wouldn't want to do that for secure frames, MoonWitch. |
| 20:36.06 | cog|work | giggles to Thunder_Child chagrin |
| 20:36.16 | MoonWitch | well more check is needed |
| 20:36.27 | MoonWitch | but it does give the basic concept to Kaw |
| 20:36.31 | alestane | But say, to switch between the party and raid versions, you could do: |
| 20:37.03 | MoonWitch | Kaw_: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/137033 is only a general idea though. |
| 20:37.12 | alestane | RegisterStateDriver(partyUnitHeader, "visibility", "[group, nogroup:raid] show; hide"); |
| 20:37.16 | Kaw_ | thanks moonwitch, that seems pretty self explanatory |
| 20:37.17 | Thunder_Child | ~lart cog|work |
| 20:37.17 | purl | send killer squirrels to attack cog|work |
| 20:37.24 | alestane | RegisterStateDriver(raidUnitHeader, "visibility", "[group:raid] show; hide"); |
| 20:37.28 | Arrowmaster | between these stupid tickets and the recent comments on the curse page for cartographer im about to disable all comments and tickets |
| 20:37.41 | MoonWitch | Kaw_: Yeah, but as pointed out -- it will cause issues with SecureHeader |
| 20:37.51 | Arrowmaster | look at this shit http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/cartographer.aspx |
| 20:37.55 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: Seriously? Someone filed a ticket because you said you weren't going to bandaid Cart anymore? |
| 20:37.56 | Arrowmaster | ungrateful little bastards |
| 20:38.13 | alestane | Seriously. Don't use Lua to control group headers...it will make you go nuts over "Interface action blocked due to an add-on" messages. |
| 20:38.29 | MoonWitch | Arrowmaster: How can this dude miss the front page clue lol |
| 20:38.38 | Arrowmaster | MoonWitch: oh he read it |
| 20:38.46 | alestane | That is exactly the sort of thing the secure state driver system was created for. |
| 20:38.48 | Lunessa | He filed a ticket anyway |
| 20:39.03 | Arrowmaster | he is just a fucking moron that doesnt realize the ticket thing in the curseclient gets sent to the addon developer, not to curse |
| 20:39.55 | Arrowmaster | read the recent comments on curse quickly, these ungrateful little bastards can go fuck themselves, im going to disable all comments and tickets |
| 20:41.16 | Lunessa | Yeah, fuck 'em. |
| 20:41.48 | Arrowmaster | i nolonger care about old comments and tickets getting deleted |
| 20:42.02 | MoonWitch | I can delete the ticket if you want |
| 20:42.08 | Arrowmaster | so i can i |
| 20:42.12 | MoonWitch | ah |
| 20:42.43 | Lunessa | Never fuck with Arrowmaster - he'll delete you ticket and go play Halo, bitches. |
| 20:42.48 | |Jelly| | Jesus. Lazy bastards! Rewrite that shit for them! GOD! |
| 20:42.59 | Arrowmaster | ticket? ive deleted peoples accounts |
| 20:44.31 | |Jelly| | "Its gone, dead and should be buried. IF the author isnt going to post the spource code (this may be open source?), then they shoudl remove it from Curse." ... |
| 20:44.44 | alestane | ...what? |
| 20:44.47 | Thunder_Child | lol |
| 20:44.52 | |Jelly| | One of the Cartographer comments. |
| 20:45.00 | Thunder_Child | sounds like it's comming from that persons ass |
| 20:45.01 | Arrowmaster | ill remove it when curse stops paying me |
| 20:45.01 | alestane | Add-ons _are_ source code. |
| 20:45.14 | batrick | hello friends |
| 20:45.36 | Thunder_Child | i wonder how much money it would take to get curse to give up the info on these people |
| 20:45.43 | |Jelly| | lol |
| 20:46.02 | batrick | there is a reason they're called 2$ whores |
| 20:46.15 | Thunder_Child | curse is called 2$ whores? |
| 20:46.15 | batrick | shifty eyes |
| 20:46.23 | batrick | ya didn't you get the memo? |
| 20:46.28 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 20:46.38 | batrick | you must not be on the cool kid mailing list |
| 20:46.43 | batrick | sorry TC |
| 20:47.11 | malreth | remembers to pay batrick $12 |
| 20:47.21 | batrick | holy shit malreth is back?? |
| 20:47.22 | Adys | Did you know |
| 20:47.31 | Adys | the alliance mailbox in dalaran is not attached to the ground |
| 20:47.35 | Thunder_Child | 6 times malreth? someone had a fun night |
| 20:47.42 | malreth | always buy in bulk |
| 20:48.00 | Thunder_Child | batrick is bulk? |
| 20:48.10 | batrick | that's hot |
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| 20:48.48 | alestane | To tekkub, anyway. |
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| 20:51.01 | Arrowmaster | cog|work: ah nice comments but nobody is going to see them after a few minutes |
| 20:51.14 | cog|work | i know. i needed to do something cathartic though |
| 20:52.03 | cog|work | i should go find some blog comments to troll or something |
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| 20:52.38 | |Jelly| | Damn! I wanted to see them! lol |
| 20:53.52 | cog|work | |Jelly|: http://cogwheel.info/upload/files/cartographer.jpg |
| 20:54.32 | Fisker | slaps cog|work around a bit with a large trout |
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| 20:54.54 | Fisker | stop trolling |
| 20:55.00 | cog|work | Fisker: put that back in your pants |
| 20:55.11 | |Jelly| | Dear cog, <3 |
| 20:55.11 | Fisker | my trolling penis? |
| 20:56.27 | Lunessa | If Fisker actually had a penis of any appreciable size, he wouldn't be in here trolling, now would he? |
| 20:57.37 | Fisker | i couldn't troll as well as i do if i had a small penis |
| 20:57.42 | cog|work | i was referring to the trout |
| 20:57.58 | Stanzilla | Arrowmaster: got my pm? |
| 20:58.06 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 20:58.11 | Stanzilla | kk! |
| 20:58.20 | Arrowmaster | letting others deal with it |
| 20:59.02 | Lunessa | still wants a ruben with a side of salt and vinegar chips. |
| 20:59.06 | Stanzilla | noes :( |
| 20:59.11 | Stanzilla | will take ages then :p |
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| 21:07.17 | alestane | While I can't fault your taste, Lunessa, I'm still in no position to help. |
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| 21:07.40 | Lunessa | The office closes in an hour. |
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| 21:11.22 | Fisker | i need sleep cog|work |
| 21:11.27 | Fisker | what can you do? |
| 21:12.09 | cog|work | i can recommend nyquil |
| 21:13.19 | Fisker | please don't |
| 21:14.19 | alestane | has a mallet... |
| 21:14.31 | alestane | Well, a hammer anyway. |
| 21:14.32 | NightHawkTheSane | i have roofies... |
| 21:14.32 | Cairenn | has a tranq gun |
| 21:14.34 | NightHawkTheSane | er, wait.. |
| 21:14.36 | NightHawkTheSane | shuts up |
| 21:14.49 | alestane | Seriously, Cairenn? |
| 21:14.53 | Cairenn | no :p |
| 21:15.07 | NightHawkTheSane | aw, you had him excited, too :P |
| 21:16.23 | Fisker | that would be nice alestane |
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| 21:16.51 | alestane | sends MoonWitch over with a mallet. |
| 21:17.17 | Lunessa | alestane: Isn't that like rewarding poor behavior? |
| 21:17.33 | alestane | Maybe, but she's WAY closer than I am. |
| 21:17.51 | alestane | Besides, i wouldn't put it past her to apply it to his kneecaps instead. |
| 21:18.10 | Lunessa | alestane: She should smash something else instead. |
| 21:18.34 | alestane | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/05/28/funny-pictures-oh-no-2/ |
| 21:18.43 | Thunder_Child | i didnt even know there was a movie named "The 40 Year Old Virgin Who Knocked Up Sarah Marshall and Felt Superbad About It" |
| 21:18.53 | MoonWitch | How did I end up in this convo |
| 21:18.55 | Thunder_Child | i think i shall have to see how bad it is |
| 21:19.01 | MoonWitch | and can I borrow your tranq gun? |
| 21:19.15 | MoonWitch | alestane: lol |
| 21:19.37 | MoonWitch | also -- kneecaps are overrated, as are mallets |
| 21:19.43 | alestane | Because you're far closer to Denmark than I am. |
| 21:19.55 | MoonWitch | I have long nails, strong fingers - I can " nail" a man to his knees fast |
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| 21:20.42 | NightHawkTheSane | you remind me of someone i knew in grade school |
| 21:20.44 | Lunessa | MoonWitch: I understand that some men pay good money for that. |
| 21:20.51 | MoonWitch | Yes, they do. |
| 21:20.51 | NightHawkTheSane | i think i still have a scar or two on my hand from her. |
| 21:21.18 | MoonWitch | I have not gotten to the point of trying to make money of it though. |
| 21:21.32 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: Finger nails are a girl's way of saying "NOT YOURS! DON'T TOUCH!" |
| 21:21.57 | MoonWitch | But it isn't past me, and would net me more income than I have now. |
| 21:22.21 | Lunessa | See? Opportunity knocks? Are you going to open the door? |
| 21:22.42 | Thunder_Child | or rather it scratches at the door |
| 21:23.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: i dunno, they can sometimes say the exact opposite ;) |
| 21:23.16 | MoonWitch | Oh, the door is open. I am well acquainted with said events. But the door doesn't lead to a private room with the tools of the trade. |
| 21:23.21 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: *nods wisely* |
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| 21:41.04 | NightHawkTheSane | wishes there was an ide that handled __call and variable function params. |
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| 21:49.06 | alestane | ??? |
| 21:49.21 | malreth | ... |
| 21:49.24 | batrick | what cha need an IDE fur |
| 21:49.26 | Antiarc | !!! |
| 21:49.36 | batrick | &&& |
| 21:49.58 | zenzelezz | I prefer use DDEs |
| 21:50.04 | zenzelezz | disintegrated development environments |
| 21:50.18 | Thunder_Child | i prefer to use someone else |
| 21:50.37 | zenzelezz | so you're the managerial kind |
| 21:51.08 | NightHawkTheSane | batrick: i dont really, but they're nice from time to time |
| 21:51.28 | batrick | vim + make + gdb |
| 21:51.32 | batrick | *bam* done |
| 21:51.46 | batrick | =) |
| 21:51.50 | Thunder_Child | zenzelezz: more like the do it or else kind |
| 21:52.34 | NightHawkTheSane | batrick: vim is still technically an ide, you know :P |
| 21:54.50 | batrick | for sufficiently broad definitions of IDE, sure |
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| 21:55.55 | cog|work | visual studio's debugger > gdb |
| 21:56.05 | batrick | sif |
| 21:56.18 | Antiarc | gdb is awesome for the "I am so friggin' leet" aspect of its usage :P |
| 21:56.43 | malreth | does a little dance |
| 21:56.49 | batrick | trips malreth |
| 21:56.51 | NightHawkTheSane | vim's plugins let you do most everything any other ide does. |
| 21:57.59 | Lunessa | malreth: gettin' down tonight? |
| 21:58.30 | malreth | my new deployment process for our checkout laptops is working |
| 21:58.38 | malreth | except for the flash plugin installer |
| 21:58.46 | malreth | that completely failed |
| 21:58.56 | malreth | figures... Adobe |
| 21:59.20 | Lunessa | sucks. |
| 21:59.37 | zenzelezz | malreth: nonsense, Flash is so easy to port that by 2012 we won't have CPUs anymore, just Flash chips |
| 21:59.57 | malreth | and... hrm... every package is now installing itself a second time |
| 22:00.13 | Lunessa | And remember, if you don't want Flash to run on your systems, you're not open or compatible. *gag* |
| 22:02.03 | Antiarc | http://fightingforalostcause.net/misc/2006/compare-email-regex.php |
| 22:02.05 | Lunessa | Time for go home. Ciao tutti. |
| 22:02.07 | malreth | well, almost everything worked |
| 22:02.11 | malreth | later Lunessa |
| 22:03.18 | malreth | i've wiped and restored this computer so many times that i've renamed it "Dollhouse" |
| 22:04.23 | cog|work | chuckles |
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| 22:09.20 | alestane | Kat ran into huge hassles the last time she tried to do an automated deployment of a Flash update IIRC, malreth. |
| 22:09.36 | myrkraverk | how do I attach stuff like buttons to existing (default) frames with xml? |
| 22:09.38 | malreth | it's always been a pain in the ass |
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| 22:09.51 | myrkraverk | so they're visible only when that frame is visible |
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| 22:10.13 | myrkraverk | so far, wowwiki hasn't helped |
| 22:10.17 | malreth | and the last thing i want to have to do is repackage it so that it'll work correctly. |
| 22:11.40 | Antiarc | myrkraverk: You nest them, but I'd avoid using XML if possible. |
| 22:12.35 | myrkraverk | Antiarc, how can I nest something when it's a default frame? And why not XML? |
| 22:12.42 | Antiarc | You could also specify <Button parent="UIParent"> ... etc |
| 22:12.44 | myrkraverk | as in, Blizzard frame |
| 22:12.51 | Antiarc | XML's relatively inflexible for frame creation |
| 22:12.54 | Antiarc | And overly verbose. |
| 22:13.00 | myrkraverk | well, it's that |
| 22:13.22 | myrkraverk | parent="MacroFrame" still has my button always visible ;/ |
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| 22:15.01 | malreth | later all |
| 22:15.22 | Antiarc | Not sure what to recommend then. Relative visibility/scaling comes from the parent, and relative positioning comes from the attach points. |
| 22:15.43 | Antiarc | Oh, perhaps the macro UI isn't loaded at first? |
| 22:15.55 | Antiarc | Aha, that'd be it |
| 22:16.04 | Antiarc | The Macro UI is LOD, so MacroFrame won't exist when you're creating that frame |
| 22:16.16 | Antiarc | (So it's probably defaulting to UIParent or somesuch) |
| 22:16.30 | myrkraverk | Hm, perhaps not - it's in a Blizzard addon - I'll try dependency and lod too then |
| 22:22.27 | alestane | You're looking for the LoadsWith: ToC property. |
| 22:24.13 | Adys_ | ~ping |
| 22:24.14 | purl | ~pong |
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| 22:29.13 | alestane | Some things don't change much: http://www.pvponline.com/1998/12/09/wed-dec-09/ |
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| 22:39.48 | NightHawkTheSane | it needs to be about an hour from now |
| 22:40.08 | myrkraverk | alestane, yes, I found that - thank you. |
| 22:47.28 | alestane | You can take a look at CoolFloat on WoWI for an example of a third-party add-on that piggy-backs on a Blizzard stock UI component packaged as an add-on. |
| 22:52.26 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/maemo/cmatrix.png - fun with n810 terminal! |
| 22:52.55 | MoonWitch | I actually like that mikma .. ps. what's the font for " Tab Esc" etc |
| 22:54.21 | mikma | moonwitch: i have absolutely 0 idea, it's the default font :/ |
| 22:54.29 | MoonWitch | meh, it looks cool :) |
| 22:55.31 | MoonWitch | http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/129181239176363372.jpg |
| 22:56.29 | haste | D: |
| 22:56.56 | MoonWitch | And because this is just that extra step http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/129167446792398807.jpg |
| 22:57.35 | mikma | you like big butts and cannot lie |
| 22:58.38 | MoonWitch | very smart kid : http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/129163033640666691.jpg |
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| 23:24.11 | cog|work | MoonWitch: http://media.fukung.net/images/21495/cd707e8f0fadb72e91c5e61006550159.jpg |
| 23:24.15 | cog|work | those elephants... |
| 23:25.49 | MoonWitch | llollol |
| 23:25.55 | MoonWitch | yeah .. |
| 23:29.45 | cog|away | ttfn |
| 23:29.53 | MoonWitch | bye bye cog :) |
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