| 00:00.30 | Antiarc | DOes anyone know of any technique to force a minimap redraw? |
| 00:00.38 | Antiarc | The update speed is lacking unless you're moving |
| 00:04.33 | WobWork | Antiarc: well, there's one... but there's a slight impact to fps |
| 00:05.16 | Antiarc | What's that? |
| 00:05.36 | Antiarc | The alternative is that I reanchor 25 + nAlerts frames every redraw |
| 00:05.41 | Antiarc | Which is not going to be super friendly either |
| 00:05.49 | A-KO | seriously? |
| 00:05.53 | A-KO | people are having fucking LOST parties? |
| 00:05.53 | A-KO | wtf |
| 00:06.08 | WobWork | Antiarc: /reloadui =) |
| 00:06.19 | Antiarc | A-KO: Going to one in just a little bit. The host cooked up 20lbs of pork, and I made homemade texas pit BBQ soppin' sauce |
| 00:06.23 | Antiarc | WobWork: Heh. |
| 00:06.29 | A-KO | wow |
| 00:06.29 | WobWork | A-KO: if it doesn't actually involve flying to sydney and crashing, I find it lacking |
| 00:06.42 | A-KO | Lost isn't that great of a show |
| 00:06.49 | A-KO | it sucks almost as bad as Heroes after the first season |
| 00:07.02 | Antiarc | It's almost like people have differing tastes :o |
| 00:07.11 | Antiarc | And it's also almost like it's more about socializing than the show :o |
| 00:07.45 | WobWork | well |
| 00:07.50 | WobWork | Lost gives people stuff to talk about |
| 00:07.56 | WobWork | like: "WTF is Going On?" |
| 00:08.10 | WobWork | and "Who The Hell Was -That-?" |
| 00:08.15 | A-KO | I don't talk to coworkers except my immediate coworkers and it's usually about video games :P Everyone else at work can go fuck themselves :D |
| 00:08.23 | WobWork | and "Does Anyone Actually Understand This Show?" |
| 00:08.26 | A-KO | I don't do the office banter either |
| 00:08.32 | WobWork | it makes for conversation! |
| 00:08.39 | WobWork | and, clearly, an excuse to eat BBQ |
| 00:08.42 | WobWork | which I can get behind |
| 00:08.53 | A-KO | I had some hibachi for dinner |
| 00:09.09 | WobWork | can fake Lost conversation like a pro. "Hey, wasn't that bear totally part of the conspiracy?" |
| 00:09.35 | A-KO | lol |
| 00:10.48 | A-KO | god I've never seen a cat shed this much |
| 00:11.01 | A-KO | and I"ve been around cats as long as I can remember |
| 00:11.07 | Lopeppeppy | Furminator. |
| 00:11.12 | Lopeppeppy | Trust me. Worth its weight in gold. |
| 00:11.24 | A-KO | I have a special cat brush that I use on her and after I'm done she is STILL shedding |
| 00:11.34 | Lopeppeppy | it's that time of year, seasons change. |
| 00:11.58 | WobWork | I helped a friend move, he had two cats |
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| 00:25.47 | WobWork | by the time we cleaned up, we had enough fur for another 2 and 1/6th of a cat |
| 00:26.26 | Shirik | ~wiki perl |
| 00:26.38 | Shirik | .... |
| 00:26.40 | Shirik | fail |
| 00:27.08 | Thunder_Child | look whos talking mr. wiki master |
| 00:27.29 | Shirik | it was supposed to say http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Perl&oldid=363829706 |
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| 01:03.35 | Jerub | yesterday at lunch i had a friend say they didn't think it was worth getting an authenticator for their wow account. |
| 01:03.47 | Jerub | that afternoon his account was hacked, all his epics sold, and 1500g in gold taken.. |
| 01:03.51 | A-KO | haha |
| 01:03.52 | A-KO | nice |
| 01:04.11 | Jerub | unfortunately, he's got one of those fancy touchscreen nokias that isn't supported by the blizz authenticator. |
| 01:04.35 | Corrodias2 | i wonder what techniques, aside from viruses, are used to do that |
| 01:05.11 | Jerub | Corrodias2: he's guessing wow account name was leaked on the wow facebook app, followed by brute force password attack (weak password) |
| 01:05.14 | Jerub | at least, he hopes that |
| 01:05.16 | Corrodias2 | someone got my password at some point, but there are a variety of ways |
| 01:05.22 | Corrodias2 | that it could have been |
| 01:05.40 | Jerub | either that or he had a virus and he's got to now change a shitload of passwords |
| 01:05.59 | WobWork | Jerub: I hope he wasn't tweeting that |
| 01:06.13 | Jerub | WobWork: lol, no. |
| 01:06.18 | Corrodias2 | i installed a new OS with new AV protection and changed every important password after that, because i wasn't sure what happened. |
| 01:07.17 | Corrodias2 | but who knows, at that time i was using common passwords, so someone could have hacked a database of a company that i did business with. near the same time, someone got my CC number, too, which could be either of those possibilities. |
| 01:07.42 | Corrodias2 | *which could also have been by either |
| 01:08.02 | Thunder_Child | everyone needs misdirect, that would be much fun |
| 01:08.12 | WobWork | blizzard passwords are case insensitive |
| 01:08.52 | Corrodias2 | that seems pretty stupid, though it doesn't account for the leak |
| 01:09.45 | sylvaan | they are? |
| 01:09.48 | sylvaan | ugh |
| 01:09.52 | airtonix | looooool |
| 01:10.02 | Corrodias2 | "seems"? no, i'm a developer, i KNOW It's pretty stupid. |
| 01:10.10 | A-KO | Generally wow passwords are stolen through trojans on PCs. |
| 01:10.18 | A-KO | and I'm pretty sure they're not case-insensitive |
| 01:10.19 | A-KO | *checks* |
| 01:10.26 | WobWork | hehe |
| 01:10.34 | WobWork | they are =) |
| 01:10.39 | A-KO | wow, that they are |
| 01:10.43 | A-KO | that's.....disturbing |
| 01:10.47 | sylvaan | ........... |
| 01:10.54 | A-KO | that's actually really bad |
| 01:10.55 | ajmitch_ | they have to cater for people who write in ALL CAPS |
| 01:11.00 | A-KO | but then again |
| 01:11.01 | A-KO | the reality is |
| 01:11.09 | A-KO | passwords only go so far |
| 01:11.14 | A-KO | and I'm sure they've got brute force protections in place |
| 01:11.21 | airtonix | no |
| 01:11.24 | WobWork | yeah, the authenticator |
| 01:11.28 | sylvaan | i cant believe they are case insensitive |
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| 01:13.01 | Adys | ~ping |
| 01:13.02 | purl | ~pong |
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| 01:24.53 | Cloudwolf | any history buffs here? |
| 01:25.18 | Jerub | Cloudwolf: I'm an armchair historian. |
| 01:25.30 | Jerub | but i specialise in embarressing momenets in history. ;) |
| 01:26.02 | Cloudwolf | heh |
| 01:27.17 | Cloudwolf | Any way. Would any one know a good book of history on us relations with egypt 1940-1980 |
| 01:28.04 | Jerub | hm? no, sorry. |
| 01:28.38 | Cloudwolf | Thought not :D was worth a shot though |
| 01:30.22 | Cloudwolf | I seem to have a knack for choosing things that arn't the easiest to research |
| 01:35.51 | Thunder_Child | there are harder things |
| 01:38.12 | WobWork | like history on us relations with egypt 1980-1940 |
| 01:39.50 | Thunder_Child | try history of relations between Canada and Switzerland 1940-1980 |
| 01:40.38 | Gagorian | Is Switzerland the most obscure country you could think of :( |
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| 01:43.14 | Jerub | i'm in the process of getting my friend who was conscripted in to the australian army for the vietnam war to get his book he wrote after the war scanned |
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| 01:45.18 | WobWork | Jerub: scanned? |
| 01:50.44 | Jerub | WobWork: he wrote it on a typewriter before the war even got to overtime. |
| 01:52.47 | Shirik | pop quiz |
| 01:52.57 | Shirik | fastest way to take a file down to 0 bytes in linux |
| 01:52.57 | Shirik | go |
| 01:53.11 | Shirik | delete and touch or is there a better way? |
| 01:53.34 | kd3 | truncate |
| 01:53.39 | Cloudwolf | i'm completely linux ignorant sorry |
| 01:53.51 | Shirik | I tried echo " " > ./foo.txt |
| 01:53.56 | Shirik | but that seems to be dying on a 4GB file |
| 01:54.06 | kd3 | trunkate -s0 file |
| 01:54.08 | kd3 | s/k/c/ |
| 01:54.34 | Thunder_Child | Gagorian: no, but it is the one that needs the least ammount of conversation with, you kinda already know what they are going to say |
| 01:54.46 | A-KO | Nintendo's Club Rewards are pretty damn weak |
| 01:57.40 | Amarande | fuck, not the intricate bone figurine *again* |
| 02:05.32 | sylvaan | what is the going rate for guild charter signatures now? |
| 02:05.46 | Cloudwolf | rofl i always find that funny and annoying |
| 02:06.07 | sylvaan | 5g clearly isnt cutting it |
| 02:06.19 | WobWork | I used 5g |
| 02:06.24 | WobWork | where are you asking? |
| 02:07.04 | Cloudwolf | go the a starting zone? :D |
| 02:07.11 | Cloudwolf | im sure they would love you for 5g XD |
| 02:07.21 | WobWork | this ^ |
| 02:07.41 | WobWork | just say on /1 every 5min or so |
| 02:08.35 | Cloudwolf | Wow. I must be tired. How did I type the instead of to?.... |
| 02:08.49 | Thunder_Child | it's easy |
| 02:09.11 | sylvaan | which starting zone should i go to for horde |
| 02:09.23 | Cloudwolf | I would think orc |
| 02:09.27 | Thunder_Child | the first one! |
| 02:09.41 | sylvaan | cries |
| 02:10.02 | sylvaan | i already tried that one |
| 02:10.08 | sylvaan | ill try silvermoon |
| 02:11.00 | WobWork | =\ |
| 02:11.15 | WobWork | silvermoon is usually pretty deserted |
| 02:11.49 | Cloudwolf | hmm my server is overwhelmingly BE O.o |
| 02:12.17 | Cloudwolf | sylvaan what server and is it EU? |
| 02:15.56 | Amarande | hmm, looks like there is a decent epic 1h sword that's accessible |
| 02:15.59 | Amarande | HoR reg |
| 02:19.47 | sylvaan | Mal'Ganis us |
| 02:21.44 | sylvaan | i got 2 in silvermoon, 8 more to go |
| 02:22.01 | Jerub | i'm hanging out to get my warrior to 80 |
| 02:22.07 | Cloudwolf | majority of horde players on yoru server are BE then orc hten tauren |
| 02:22.08 | Jerub | but man, i love LFD so much |
| 02:22.17 | Cloudwolf | and sylvaan are you going into the betgginer zones or just the major cities? |
| 02:23.13 | Amarande | ok ... are sun crystals a rarer prospect than the other green gems |
| 02:23.18 | Amarande | or is random loot just random and I'm not lucky? |
| 02:24.00 | Jerub | Amarande: you're totally totally unlucky. |
| 02:27.03 | Jerub | has anyone written anything to make making money on the auctionhouse using the web api? |
| 02:27.52 | Cloudwolf | ok odd question but does any one know how the RNG works for loot drops on low level bosses? Ihave had times where a boss dropped both of its possible drops in deadmines |
| 02:27.57 | sylvaan | the beginner zones |
| 02:28.03 | cbreak | automated day trading? |
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| 02:28.10 | Jerub | cbreak: exactly. |
| 02:28.17 | sylvaan | what happened to my nick - it keeps going away |
| 02:28.19 | Jerub | or sniping low listings |
| 02:28.25 | cbreak | you are pure evil |
| 02:28.30 | Jerub | no i'm not. |
| 02:28.39 | cbreak | do you work for wallstreet? |
| 02:28.40 | Jerub | i want to basically put 'buy' and 'sell' orders on the market. |
| 02:29.00 | Arrowmaster | is there a refresh limit on it? can you constantly check the neutral AH for 1c items? |
| 02:29.02 | Jerub | so i can handle market motion. |
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| 02:29.50 | Amarande | what's this about buying stuff on the AH on the web? |
| 02:29.53 | Jerub | woo, i sold a savory deviate delight recipe! 475g! |
| 02:30.15 | Amarande | Jerub: lucky bastard. I had to drop it to 210g to get people to bite |
| 02:30.18 | Arrowmaster | i remember buying one of those for 10g |
| 02:30.23 | Amarande | I got one for 5g |
| 02:30.29 | Arrowmaster | i got one for free i think |
| 02:30.29 | Jerub | Amarande: i've been listing it for moneys. |
| 02:30.29 | Cloudwolf | heh jerub i ended up deciding to keep mine when i found it |
| 02:30.30 | Amarande | which is why selling it for 210 wasn't that bad :) |
| 02:30.38 | Jerub | Cloudwolf: i have 3 in total accross toons |
| 02:30.39 | Jerub | (2 now) |
| 02:30.43 | Cloudwolf | Ah |
| 02:30.48 | Amarande | as for my cook, she got hers for free though ... dropped for my hunter during leveling |
| 02:31.13 | Cloudwolf | i found one when i was like level 25 or something and had the decision to sell for 150g upfront (my server was only selling for that atm) or hold onto it and try to make money off of selling Savory deviate delight for 1g a pop |
| 02:31.14 | Arrowmaster | i think somebody gave me one in the barrens while i was leveling my main back in 05 |
| 02:32.54 | Amarande | Alvaerin can cook absolutely everything except for thistle tea and chimaerok chops |
| 02:33.41 | Arrowmaster | wrath made it so much easier to get all the prewrath recipes |
| 02:34.09 | Amarande | howso? |
| 02:34.29 | Arrowmaster | some are faction specific and only come from quest rewards |
| 02:34.32 | Jerub | *relists 220 saronite ore for 30% more* |
| 02:34.55 | Amarande | oh, because of dks |
| 02:35.23 | Arrowmaster | i got somebody either in this channel or in wowace to create an alliance DK on my server, run around and do all the quests to get the recipes i was missing, and then list them on the neutral AH for me |
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| 02:37.57 | Jerub | fucking stupid ui |
| 02:38.06 | Jerub | i listed all the ore at price per stack not item :/ |
| 02:41.35 | Cloudwolf | dontcha hate that |
| 02:41.37 | Cloudwolf | ive done the oposite |
| 02:41.49 | Cloudwolf | >.> 200g instead of like 20g XD |
| 02:42.05 | Jerub | now i'm out of transactions for a few hours |
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| 02:42.24 | Jerub | (and i bothered to send an email to the armory people about their stupid GMT local time bullshit |
| 02:42.24 | A-KO | http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//100523/483/urn_publicid_ap_org62d0e25e2601474d91c292473c249013/ < lol |
| 02:42.34 | Cloudwolf | jerub are you testing out the mobile auction house? |
| 02:42.57 | Jerub | Cloudwolf: wowarmory.com/auctionhouse/ |
| 02:43.03 | Jerub | 'mobile' no. browser, yes. |
| 02:43.11 | Cloudwolf | roflk a-ko |
| 02:43.43 | Jerub | .. it's saying i have no gold. |
| 02:45.09 | Cloudwolf | can you select which character to check auctions on? |
| 02:45.14 | Jamash | You don't, I tppk it |
| 02:45.26 | Jamash | s/tppk/took/ |
| 02:45.32 | Jerub | Cloudwolf: yes. |
| 02:46.19 | Amarande | Arrow: I wonder if that's going to come to an end with the fact that now it's impossible to tell that no one will be able to snag your alliance recipes out from under you |
| 02:46.30 | Amarande | with the fact that people can AH without even being in the game |
| 02:47.29 | Jerub | just transfer the money between toons that's more than the recipie is worth |
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| 03:02.16 | sylvanaar_wtf | ok, so it takes 50g to get a level 80 to sign your charter |
| 03:02.56 | Jamash | lol |
| 03:02.57 | sylvanaar_wtf | fortunately i found a few more ppl in mulgore |
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| 03:19.13 | Kraps | lol |
| 03:19.24 | Kraps | who was watching fringe? |
| 03:20.32 | airtonix | i did! |
| 03:21.02 | Kraps | i couldnt for the life of me figure out why olivia was so cheerful in the beginning of over there, pt 1 |
| 03:21.22 | airtonix | i dont know the episodes by name |
| 03:21.54 | airtonix | 22 ? |
| 03:22.03 | Kraps | yeah |
| 03:22.48 | airtonix | something to do with her peasant family ? |
| 03:23.11 | Kraps | no, when they went over |
| 03:23.36 | Kraps | it starts by showing alt-olivia |
| 03:23.45 | airtonix | wait doesn't she always have this collage expression ? |
| 03:23.57 | Kraps | yes |
| 03:24.06 | airtonix | ima punch you/ my butt hurts/who is that |
| 03:24.23 | Kraps | but in alt-world shes much more cheerful |
| 03:24.33 | airtonix | alt-oliva has a boyfriend/husband |
| 03:24.46 | airtonix | and large testicals |
| 03:25.08 | airtonix | great big massive steaming... |
| 03:25.18 | airtonix | she definitly more macho |
| 03:26.21 | airtonix | oh and whats his face... |
| 03:26.24 | airtonix | charlie |
| 03:26.28 | airtonix | is alive |
| 03:26.36 | airtonix | but has 'worms' |
| 03:26.57 | airtonix | maybe thats the joke ? |
| 03:27.11 | Kraps | who? |
| 03:27.24 | airtonix | chisel face |
| 03:27.51 | airtonix | the one that got nabed by the shapechanger start of the season i think |
| 03:28.00 | Kraps | i dont watch regularly |
| 03:28.58 | Amarande | man, this PoS run is a pos |
| 03:29.01 | airtonix | is the actor that plays oliva in anything else ? or is she new, she seems terribly unsuited for the role |
| 03:29.04 | Shirik | hey hey |
| 03:29.09 | Amarande | not only did I forget to turn in the quest when I entered, so I need to do it again |
| 03:29.10 | Shirik | someone in here, I think maybe Adys, not sure |
| 03:29.16 | Amarande | but half the party bailed after the first boss :S |
| 03:29.21 | Shirik | someone said they have like this laptop cooling pad with a thing to stick a hard drive in it |
| 03:29.23 | Adys | Sup? |
| 03:29.25 | Shirik | anyone know where that is? |
| 03:29.29 | Shirik | I can't remember it |
| 03:29.29 | Kraps | but i saw the one where walter gets his son from there, and i got interested |
| 03:29.31 | sylvanaar_wtf | why would they name something so that it would get shortened to PoS? |
| 03:29.34 | Adys | Shirik: a dhwat? |
| 03:29.38 | Shirik | laptop cooling pad |
| 03:29.42 | Shirik | with a hard drive port |
| 03:29.44 | Adys | ah |
| 03:29.47 | Adys | a hard drive dock? |
| 03:29.47 | airtonix | Shirik, can i stick my hardrive in your coolinpad ? |
| 03:29.54 | Shirik | yes |
| 03:30.01 | airtonix | sqeee |
| 03:30.01 | Adys | yeah, what about it? |
| 03:30.44 | WobWork | airtonix: make sure you wear a firewall |
| 03:30.53 | WobWork | if it's not on, it's not on |
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| 03:31.20 | DWSR | Shirik |
| 03:31.39 | Shirik | DWSR |
| 03:31.42 | Shirik | was it you? |
| 03:31.44 | Shirik | omg |
| 03:31.45 | DWSR | ? |
| 03:31.46 | airtonix | yes |
| 03:31.48 | DWSR | Your bot's broken. |
| 03:31.50 | Shirik | do you have |
| 03:31.53 | DWSR | s/bot/ZNC/ |
| 03:31.55 | Shirik | a laptop cooling pad |
| 03:31.58 | DWSR | yes. |
| 03:32.02 | Shirik | with a hard drive port thing |
| 03:32.03 | Shirik | on it |
| 03:32.03 | DWSR | Yes. |
| 03:32.07 | Shirik | wtf was the model number |
| 03:32.09 | Shirik | or company |
| 03:32.10 | Shirik | or anything |
| 03:32.13 | DWSR | Sec. |
| 03:32.16 | Shirik | also |
| 03:32.21 | Shirik | all services died because I ran out of disk space |
| 03:32.22 | Shirik | lol |
| 03:32.27 | Shirik | I'll bring it up now |
| 03:32.31 | DWSR | Choiix |
| 03:32.34 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:32.40 | Adys | rm -rf / |
| 03:33.00 | Adys | there needs to be a /rm-rf emote in wow |
| 03:33.02 | Shirik | ok should be up now |
| 03:33.04 | Shirik | wait |
| 03:33.09 | Shirik | there's already a DWSR online |
| 03:33.13 | Shirik | wtf does znc do when that happens |
| 03:33.22 | DWSR | Gives me a random name. |
| 03:33.27 | DWSR | Or my altname, if it's configured. |
| 03:33.42 | Jamash | I was going to make an addon that would give you a DOS interface to wow |
| 03:33.43 | DWSR | http://www.futurelooks.com/choiix-air-through-stash-c-hl04-notebook-cooling-pad-review/ <--- btw. |
| 03:33.54 | DWSR | Jamash: I doubt it. |
| 03:34.01 | DWSR | Since you can't interact with anything outside of the WoW sandbox. |
| 03:34.32 | Jamash | not a real one |
| 03:34.35 | Jamash | a pretend one |
| 03:35.00 | Jamash | you'd be able to look at your inventory by typing DIR C:\BACKPACK |
| 03:35.08 | airtonix | faildos |
| 03:35.12 | DWSR | ^ |
| 03:35.26 | airtonix | needs to be a git interface |
| 03:36.34 | Jamash | and then you would check the addon in to git |
| 03:36.44 | Jamash | and then Xzibit would show up |
| 03:37.00 | airtonix | no i mean to enslave you |
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| 03:37.09 | DWSR | There we go. |
| 03:37.11 | Jerub | bored. |
| 03:37.26 | Jerub | Antiarc: do you know of anyone else doing AH stuff? |
| 03:37.34 | Kraps | Jerub: http://www.hulu.com/watch/146585/fringe-over-there-part-1#s-p1-so-i0 |
| 03:38.16 | Jerub | Kraps: i'm outside the USA |
| 03:38.26 | Kraps | move |
| 03:38.30 | airtonix | Jerub, world trade organisation ? |
| 03:38.54 | Jerub | airtonix: WTO is mining data from the wow ah's? |
| 03:38.57 | Jerub | that's pretty sweet |
| 03:39.01 | Shadowed | It's not hard |
| 03:39.17 | WobWork | well 'not hard' and 'actually doing' are two different things |
| 03:39.28 | Jerub | i've got some ruby code from antiarc. |
| 03:39.40 | Jerub | i'm just interesting in looking at all the prior art before i start playing |
| 03:39.40 | airtonix | make me some emeralds |
| 03:40.18 | Shadowed | WTO = ? |
| 03:42.24 | Arrowmaster | haha |
| 03:42.27 | Arrowmaster | http://boards.4chan.org/tv/ |
| 03:42.45 | Arrowmaster | the lostfags are crying |
| 03:43.28 | WobWork | cause it's over? |
| 03:43.33 | WobWork | or cause the end was terrible |
| 03:43.35 | WobWork | or something |
| 03:43.55 | Arrowmaster | yeah pulled an 'it was all a dream' type thing apparently |
| 03:44.01 | Jamash | WOW NO REALLY |
| 03:44.07 | airtonix | whole series sucks |
| 03:44.17 | WobWork | ... seriously? |
| 03:44.20 | airtonix | melrose place on a deserted island |
| 03:44.22 | Arrowmaster | im proud to say i have never seen a single episode of lost |
| 03:44.25 | airtonix | woppeeeedee DOOOOO |
| 03:44.27 | WobWork | this ^ |
| 03:44.29 | Kraps | MKL on the $20 bill |
| 03:44.36 | WobWork | MLK? |
| 03:44.43 | Jamash | martin kuther ling? |
| 03:44.55 | Kraps | ^ |
| 03:44.59 | Kraps | MLK |
| 03:45.07 | airtonix | KLF? |
| 03:45.18 | WobWork | Dr whooo dr whoooo |
| 03:45.26 | airtonix | fuuuuuu |
| 03:45.34 | WobWork | ^^ |
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| 03:50.26 | Scynix | I don't know if I'm just blind and retarded, but I can't seem to find Blizzard's default action bar scripting. Is it not located within the interface folder anymore? I haven't done any interface modding since shortly after beta, so I was hoping to get an idea of what the action bar code looks like now (by default). |
| 03:50.43 | airtonix | sorry my google is broken |
| 03:51.28 | batrick | http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Create-Stunning-HTML-Email-That-Just-Works/Matthew-Patterson/e/9780980576863/?itm=97&USRI=Computer |
| 03:51.31 | batrick | head -> desk |
| 03:51.37 | airtonix | lol |
| 03:51.37 | Scynix | Mine must be too, because googling anything related to the phrase "default action bar" or related doesn't give you crap related to it. |
| 03:51.49 | airtonix | wowwiki |
| 03:51.51 | Scynix | Though, I appreciate your sarcastic and ultimately useless response that I've come to expect from freenode. |
| 03:51.53 | airtonix | wowprogramming |
| 03:51.56 | Scynix | Wowwiki doesn't give you the default script, either. |
| 03:51.56 | airtonix | wowace |
| 03:51.59 | Arrowmaster | Scynix: http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser |
| 03:52.01 | airtonix | wowinterface / forums |
| 03:52.04 | Scynix | Thank you arrow. |
| 03:52.32 | Jamash | http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=21466 |
| 03:52.48 | Arrowmaster | ~framexml |
| 03:52.49 | purl | Official: (Mac) http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/AddOnKit.dmg, (Win) http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/AddOnKit.zip. Compare: http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser |
| 03:53.01 | Arrowmaster | oh the wowprogramming link is in there too |
| 03:53.05 | Arrowmaster | forgot that |
| 03:54.13 | Scynix | I have the official download but unfortunately it doesn't seem to have the actual *action bar* scripting. |
| 03:54.33 | Arrowmaster | its just a program to extract it from the client files |
| 03:55.12 | Scynix | Herm... so if it didn't pull it out of the client files something is seriously wrong |
| 03:55.33 | Jamash | World of Warcraft\Blizzard Interface Data (enUS)\FrameXML\ActionBarFrame.xml |
| 03:55.47 | Scynix | Yeah, my FrameXML folder is totally empty after I ran the utility |
| 03:55.56 | Scynix | Hence why I said maybe I'm retarded or blind. |
| 03:56.04 | Jamash | hmm |
| 03:56.11 | Jamash | put it in your wow directory then run it again |
| 03:56.17 | Scynix | Thanks, I'll try it |
| 03:58.18 | Thunder_Child | you can also generate a reg entry by running the loader thingy |
| 03:58.19 | Scynix | Bizzarre, framexml has all the files now. Thanks again Jamash. |
| 03:58.54 | airtonix | releases a troop of highly trained ninja baboons |
| 03:58.58 | Arrowmaster | remember, the client will never load any of those files so just editing them wont do anything |
| 04:02.15 | Adys | Anyone got the PTR installed? |
| 04:02.16 | Adys | (EU) |
| 04:02.25 | airtonix | Fisker, do not move |
| 04:02.38 | airtonix | not an inch |
| 04:02.39 | Adys | (or US) |
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| 04:09.49 | Amarande | yay, hor unlocked |
| 04:10.25 | Amarande | and the dreaded "which ring do I replace" conundrum to deal with |
| 04:14.03 | airtonix | ooo such vile and depraved questions |
| 04:16.34 | Adys | The reporter has made the following comment: |
| 04:16.34 | Adys | Sexualy herashment? |
| 04:17.09 | airtonix | Adys, may i provide you with fresh herashment from the nile ? |
| 04:17.20 | airtonix | freshly picked by virgins |
| 04:17.35 | WobWork | her arse ment? |
| 04:18.13 | airtonix | english people say it like : Harris Mint |
| 04:31.29 | Shirik | guys |
| 04:31.30 | Shirik | I just realized |
| 04:31.31 | Shirik | it's 2010 |
| 04:31.41 | airtonix | bit late for that |
| 04:31.42 | Shirik | that means the 21st century is already 10% over |
| 04:32.00 | WobWork | 2010 is nearly half over =( |
| 04:32.03 | airtonix | you're right |
| 04:32.06 | Kraps | OLIVIA VS OLIVIA FTW! |
| 04:32.12 | airtonix | i need more baboons |
| 04:32.24 | Thunder_Child | fire baboons |
| 04:32.35 | airtonix | yes with obsidian claws |
| 04:33.06 | airtonix | and great bulging steaming masses of ... |
| 04:33.13 | airtonix | ammunition |
| 04:34.23 | Shirik | Jerub: {{citation needed}} |
| 04:34.34 | airtonix | purge him |
| 04:35.09 | Adys | Shirik: #REDIRECT [[Hell]] |
| 04:35.24 | Shirik | :( |
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| 04:41.49 | Amarande | so now I can apparently queue for everything *except* HHoR |
| 04:41.56 | Amarande | not sure what the minimum gear requirement to queue there is |
| 04:42.20 | airtonix | dungeon queue is based on sniffing your gear ? |
| 04:42.38 | airtonix | what a depraved scene |
| 04:42.57 | Jerub | Shirik: huhuwhyayt?fdsa? |
| 04:43.58 | WobWork | airtonix: yeah, it won't put you in an instance you're undergeared for |
| 04:44.15 | Shirik | Jerub |
| 04:44.17 | Shirik | the WTO wow thing |
| 04:44.20 | WobWork | cause putting a fresh 80 in greens and blues in HHoR is sadistic |
| 04:44.21 | Shirik | wtb link |
| 04:44.27 | Jerub | Shirik: that was a lie. |
| 04:44.54 | Jerub | back when i was running a frost daily every day on my icc25 geared tank, i would pick up a rnadom hitchhiker off trade |
| 04:45.07 | Jerub | because if they're shittily geared, i get HUK instead of HHoR |
| 04:45.09 | airtonix | i hope you cleaned yourself |
| 04:45.32 | Jerub | (yes, whenever i queue alone i 90% of the time get an icc5man |
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| 04:52.34 | Kraps | not cool not cool not cool |
| 04:53.09 | Thunder_Child | it's ok Kraps, lots of people have incontinence |
| 04:53.18 | Kraps | nooooo |
| 04:53.59 | Kraps | they must have switched at the grenade explosion |
| 04:54.24 | Kraps | nooooo |
| 04:55.12 | Kraps | walternate it very dr doomy |
| 04:55.17 | Kraps | is* |
| 04:56.32 | Kraps | nooooo |
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| 05:10.49 | Amarande | GAH stupid devourer |
| 05:10.52 | Amarande | I always die at the end :( |
| 05:11.50 | Kraps | Amarande: YOU DARE LOOK UPON THE HOST OF SOULS?! |
| 05:13.30 | Amarande | BTW: supremacy or crystal heart for a DK? |
| 05:13.51 | WobWork | links? |
| 05:14.01 | WobWork | wowhead comparison link? =) |
| 05:14.21 | airtonix | lmgtfy.com |
| 05:14.58 | WobWork | nono |
| 05:15.13 | WobWork | lmwhtfy.com |
| 05:15.31 | airtonix | GOGO REGISTRAR RACE! |
| 05:15.38 | airtonix | i will own that domain |
| 05:15.56 | airtonix | :( |
| 05:16.10 | airtonix | someone beat me |
| 05:16.10 | WobWork | you're a few months late |
| 05:18.57 | Amarande | http://www.wowhead.com/compare?items=48722;47734 |
| 05:22.03 | WobWork | Amarande: mark |
| 05:22.09 | WobWork | haste isn't as useful to DKs |
| 05:22.19 | WobWork | since we're still effectively rune limited |
| 05:22.30 | airtonix | identity crisis |
| 05:22.37 | airtonix | HERESY! |
| 05:28.12 | Kraps | http://www.amazon.com/Firefly-Flying-Celebration-Whedons-Acclaimed/dp/1848565062 |
| 05:30.19 | Thunder_Child | WOW, thats like totaly....fail. |
| 05:30.26 | Thunder_Child | more show, less crap |
| 05:32.48 | airtonix | do i smell rage |
| 05:35.22 | Kraps | http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/brilliantbutcancelled/2010/05/firefly-10-things-we-didnt-kno.php#more |
| 05:35.32 | Kraps | There's a New Firefly Movie Coming! |
| 05:35.34 | Kraps | ...Kind of. |
| 05:35.43 | Kraps | night |
| 05:35.43 | airtonix | EXPLAIN |
| 05:40.29 | WobWork | I do like that list |
| 06:19.26 | Amarande | wow ... two insanities and still Volazj-under-2-min ach |
| 06:22.20 | Amarande | and I finally got a group that killed Amanitar for that ach |
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| 06:32.15 | Amarande | ok ... arctic fur from a ... SNAKE. wtf |
| 06:32.36 | airtonix | didn't you know? |
| 06:34.09 | Jerub | i asked on general in icecrown what mob i should kill to ding 80 |
| 06:34.12 | Jerub | they said it didn't matter. |
| 06:34.33 | Jerub | but then i killed one of those big arachnid ones (like anub'rekhan), dinged 80, and i skinned it for an arctic fur. |
| 06:34.36 | airtonix | asking advice ingame i lol |
| 06:34.36 | Jerub | :D |
| 06:34.59 | airtonix | only naive and trolls respond |
| 06:35.21 | airtonix | those who know better keep their secrets |
| 06:35.22 | Jerub | lol, ever ask where mankirk's wife is in the barrens? |
| 06:35.26 | Jerub | i get like 5 valid responses. |
| 06:35.28 | Jerub | :P |
| 06:35.35 | airtonix | <sarcasm/> |
| 06:36.21 | Amarande | Jerub: some spiders are actually fuzzy, though |
| 06:36.28 | Amarande | snakes ... fuzzy ... um ... no? |
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| 06:39.26 | Jerub | Amarande: it's northrend. it |
| 06:39.30 | Jerub | it's cold |
| 06:39.33 | Jerub | they evolved. |
| 06:48.07 | airtonix | it's always been cold |
| 06:48.56 | Arrowmaster | youtubes ContentID is so fucked up |
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| 06:49.04 | Arrowmaster | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1DMCn16qWI |
| 06:49.12 | Arrowmaster | that is not AC/DC |
| 06:50.00 | Arrowmaster | and the video sucks |
| 06:50.30 | airtonix | indeed |
| 06:50.54 | airtonix | anything cursed with the face of Wesley should be feed to the dogs |
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| 07:01.19 | Amarande | Jerub: It's Sholazar Basin. Which is decidedly tropical despite being in NR. |
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| 07:04.53 | Amarande | it's also a zone I should power through, because I really should be getting to stormpeaks so I can start getting hodir rep |
| 07:04.57 | Amarande | I've been going without a shoulder enchant all this time |
| 07:05.40 | Amarande | not because I'm cheap, or a noob, but because I never got the warlock to Exalted with Hodir and haven't hit stormpeaks yet on the DK |
| 07:06.16 | Xyphoid | you can buy relics of ulduar pretty cheaply these days and skip all the dailies |
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| 07:07.06 | airtonix | you're just a bit meh about the dedication then ? |
| 07:07.45 | Amarande | ehh |
| 07:07.49 | Amarande | I'm not sure how much DPS it's actually worth |
| 07:07.55 | airtonix | its not the dps |
| 07:08.07 | nevcairiel | its not about dps, its about showing the dedication to get the best out of your char |
| 07:08.13 | airtonix | its the dedication and show of perseverance |
| 07:08.26 | airtonix | fuuu |
| 07:08.45 | airtonix | puts on his tin foil hat |
| 07:08.58 | airtonix | no more stealing my secrets nevcairiel |
| 07:09.01 | Xyphoid | heh our argument for people getting proper enchants/gems was that if you didn't need that stuff, you didn't need gear upgrades either |
| 07:09.07 | Amarande | heh, dedication is what's been keeping me doing each zone in order |
| 07:09.19 | Amarande | otherwise, I'd probably have exalted with hodir by now |
| 07:09.24 | Amarande | well, assuming I can afford enough relics |
| 07:09.32 | airtonix | cease your whining slave! |
| 07:09.37 | nevcairiel | i did the quests properly on the first char |
| 07:09.46 | nevcairiel | hit exalted before the tokens got BoE |
| 07:09.56 | nevcairiel | never bothered with another char |
| 07:10.05 | nevcairiel | luckily, the enchants are BoA now |
| 07:11.22 | Xyphoid | looks like the rep from quests and turnins is a lot higher now |
| 07:12.15 | Xyphoid | i remember buying about 900 of them for a human, now wowhead says unlocking quests + 420 relics = exalted |
| 07:12.34 | nevcairiel | yeah they increased quest rep |
| 07:12.41 | nevcairiel | its really trivial to get to exalted now |
| 07:14.41 | Amarande | yeah, I'll be hitting there right after I finish Sholazar |
| 07:14.48 | Amarande | the real pain in the ass is going to be the head enchant :( |
| 07:15.02 | Amarande | because that actually requires a decent number of group quests in Icecrown |
| 07:15.03 | nevcairiel | not really, just run dungeons, and its done in two days |
| 07:15.18 | Amarande | nev: need to do a lot of quests to unlock the vendor for the tabard and enchant to begin with |
| 07:15.25 | nevcairiel | its not that much |
| 07:15.27 | Amarande | some of which are group, and because of the phasing, getting groups gets harder and harder as time goes by |
| 07:15.29 | nevcairiel | just the first camp or so |
| 07:15.40 | Xyphoid | you don't need to do any non-soloable quests to unlock the vendor |
| 07:15.41 | Amarande | hopefully my gear is good enough to solo everything needed :S |
| 07:16.03 | Amarande | yeah, not to mention they were balanced based on people in quest blues, I suspect :) |
| 07:16.12 | Amarande | they didn't expect a DK in heroic gear and 4pt9 |
| 07:16.19 | Xyphoid | quest greens, yeah |
| 07:16.49 | nevcairiel | You can solo most group quests as a DK anyway |
| 07:16.51 | nevcairiel | even in quest blues |
| 07:17.26 | nevcairiel | blood spec with big self healing, goooo |
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| 07:20.03 | airtonix | lol |
| 07:20.05 | Amarande | you know, maybe that's why people who need groups for icecrown quests get really shafted, too |
| 07:20.21 | Amarande | because most people so massively outgear the zone by the time they reach it |
| 07:20.26 | airtonix | warning : "extreme sensuality" |
| 07:20.36 | Amarande | if you're doing everything, you hit 80 when ... like around grizzly hills into zul'drak, usually? |
| 07:20.51 | Amarande | (assuming you started at 70) |
| 07:21.12 | airtonix | northrend is not designed for you to complete everything by 80 |
| 07:21.18 | airtonix | its there for the choice |
| 07:21.48 | nevcairiel | when you skip one of the two starting zones, and have no heirlooms, its after sholazar, beginning of storm peaks |
| 07:22.00 | nevcairiel | when you do both starting zones, with heirlooms, its in the middle of grizzly |
| 07:22.10 | nevcairiel | thats the only experience i have =P |
| 07:24.18 | Amarande | no heirlooms, instancing a lot, using no quest guides, starting at 70, doing both BT & HF (warlock) - middle of Zul'Drak |
| 07:24.45 | Amarande | no heirlooms, instancing even more often, using quest guides, starting at 70, doing both BT & HF (DK) - right between GH and ZD |
| 07:25.02 | nevcairiel | i didnt even instance much |
| 07:25.04 | Amarande | wow, do heirlooms give you that little boost? |
| 07:25.06 | nevcairiel | every instance once for quests |
| 07:25.29 | Amarande | or did you skip one of the starting zones |
| 07:25.50 | nevcairiel | on my warrior with heirlooms i did both starting zones, was like 75 when i was done with both |
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| 07:26.21 | nevcairiel | 78 or so after dragonblight, and 80 in grizzly hills |
| 07:26.46 | nevcairiel | every instance once when i had the quests for them |
| 07:27.20 | nevcairiel | so, not much instancing, purely questing |
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| 08:07.43 | Amarande | I would do instances for my quests, and also make sure I got in my daily random |
| 08:07.46 | Amarande | that was about it, on the DK |
| 08:08.12 | Amarande | the warlock I tried to do this initially, but ended up missing out AN and OK, and I think I gave up entirely after DTK until 80 |
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| 08:11.57 | airtonix | its a shame you have no scribe here to record your exploits |
| 08:12.50 | Amarande | hey ... when they're removing the tailoring specialties in cata |
| 08:13.11 | Amarande | does that also mean no more ability to make 2 of one of the high end cloths per CD/mats, or will they leave that aspect? |
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| 08:39.00 | Amarande | soo. |
| 08:39.04 | Amarande | how nasty and unforgiving is HoR on reg? |
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| 08:40.37 | nevcairiel | normal is easy |
| 08:46.05 | Amarande | heh, good |
| 08:46.16 | Amarande | since apparently I need to run it a lot, as there's both a cloak and a 1H sword (of which, of course, I will want two) for me |
| 08:49.59 | bleeter | Fisker: http://fffff.at/shaved-bieber/ |
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| 08:56.49 | Corrodias2 | interesting. i like the name. |
| 08:57.56 | Wobin | http://www.whatthefuckshouldimakefordinner.com/index.php |
| 08:58.19 | Amarande | heh, who knows, Bieber might already have been shaved, the way he looks |
| 08:58.32 | Amarande | laughs malevolently |
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| 09:01.11 | Amarande | hmm |
| 09:01.20 | Amarande | is reg hor not queued for much or is it just a bad time of day ... :| |
| 09:02.02 | Corrodias2 | i have no idea who this Bieber person is, except that conan o'brien made a couple of jokes about him on twitter. |
| 09:02.27 | Corrodias2 | but then, i am exposed to -very- little "celebrity culture", so i guess it isn't surprising |
| 09:07.48 | Fisker | yeah Antiarc i hate you |
| 09:07.59 | Antiarc | hi Fisker |
| 09:08.02 | Antiarc | why do you hate me |
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| 09:12.55 | Fisker | because you are a horrible person |
| 09:16.16 | Fisker | Why are you a horrible person Antiarc ? |
| 09:21.09 | Wobin | http://www.redwombatstudio.com/blog/?p=4007 |
| 09:21.16 | Wobin | I <3 Ursula |
| 09:22.38 | Fisker | you are also a horrible person Wobin |
| 09:22.59 | Wobin | beams at Fisker |
| 09:23.06 | Wobin | You say the sweetest things |
| 09:23.50 | Corrodias2 | what in the fuck. is that. |
| 09:26.30 | Fisker | i fucked your sons dog |
| 09:26.57 | Corrodias2 | i fucked your dog's son |
| 09:27.15 | Fisker | proceed? |
| 09:29.58 | Fisker | today |
| 09:30.01 | Fisker | we dine in hell |
| 09:31.17 | Corrodias2 | i played Max Payne a while back. it kind of annoyed me. i didn't really enjoy it that much. |
| 09:31.52 | Corrodias2 | people refer to it as great, and maybe it was one of those games that changes history by introducing new ideas. i hope that's the case, because it would explain why it's otherwise not very interesting. |
| 09:32.21 | Wobin | http://www.azureusrising.com/ |
| 09:32.25 | Wobin | is a pretty awesome animation |
| 09:32.43 | Fisker | imma triplebox Wobin |
| 09:32.48 | Fisker | you cannot stop me |
| 09:33.24 | Wobin | why would I |
| 09:36.32 | Fisker | Because you despise me |
| 09:37.21 | Arrowmaster | http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1662392&cid=32320874 |
| 09:37.24 | Arrowmaster | i love slashdot |
| 09:50.48 | Adys | http://dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/000000/90000/0000/700/90728/90728.strip.print.gif |
| 09:50.57 | Adys | I think thats the first and last time i link dilbert in this chan |
| 09:50.59 | Adys | retarded urls |
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| 10:01.35 | Amarande | yay, that's one ghoulslicer |
| 10:01.37 | Amarande | one more to go |
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| 10:33.47 | Maldivia | *yawn* |
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| 11:03.16 | Fisker | hey Antiarc |
| 11:03.18 | Fisker | imma fuck you up |
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| 11:30.40 | nevcairiel | Fisker got your 257 driver yet? :d |
| 11:32.07 | Adys | I need a new laptop, budget around 500-700 euros. Not a dell, needs to run wow at least at medium settings (nvidia chipset). Any recommendation? |
| 11:33.23 | Matsy | Get one of the new toshiba series |
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| 11:35.51 | harl | hi |
| 11:36.55 | Adys | Matsy: a few people recommending me samsung r780, got any opinion? |
| 11:37.13 | Matsy | Not a huge fan of Samsung laptops |
| 11:37.21 | Matsy | i had two |
| 11:37.24 | Matsy | all crashed within 3 months |
| 11:37.31 | Matsy | Switched to Toshiba completely after that |
| 11:42.16 | Fisker | oooooooooooold nevcairiel |
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| 11:51.05 | Cide | hi |
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| 12:46.26 | zenzelezz | Slashdot comment regarding Android: "Every major cellphone maker standardizing on the platform." |
| 12:46.31 | zenzelezz | I guess someone hasn't heard of Nokia |
| 12:47.00 | cbreak | or apple |
| 12:47.02 | cbreak | or RIM |
| 12:48.11 | zenzelezz | I can't remember if I'd heard about HTC before they launched their Android phones... I know now that they've been around before that |
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| 12:51.02 | nevcairiel | google and adobe will team up and kill apple soon enough :d |
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| 12:51.21 | nevcairiel | nokia cooking their own soup wont work out in the long run, imho |
| 12:51.45 | cbreak | HTC is a big manufacturer of Windows Mobile phones |
| 12:51.56 | cbreak | nokia has cooked their own soup for ages |
| 12:52.01 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: depends on what market they aim for |
| 12:52.07 | cbreak | they are very, very sucessfull with that |
| 12:52.15 | zenzelezz | Nokia has business- and smartphones, but they're selling shitloads of "unsmart" phones |
| 12:52.19 | cbreak | nokia is probably one of the biggest players on the cellphone market |
| 12:52.38 | cbreak | adobe? |
| 12:52.41 | nevcairiel | they are, but going down steadily now that android is stealing the show |
| 12:52.44 | cbreak | how can adobe kill apple? |
| 12:52.47 | cbreak | or google? |
| 12:52.51 | cbreak | they aren't even in the same field |
| 12:53.10 | cbreak | android isn't that a big of an inovation |
| 12:53.33 | cbreak | it's an attempt at defragmenting various platforms it seems |
| 12:53.35 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: I don't know what it's like where you are, but here you can't get an Android basically free (+ subscription) like you can with most of the Nokia and Sony Ericsson phones |
| 12:53.49 | zenzelezz | those still sell the most here |
| 12:55.14 | nevcairiel | thats all the un-smart phones |
| 12:55.17 | nevcairiel | and free is a lie |
| 12:55.22 | nevcairiel | you pay that through your contract |
| 12:55.23 | haste | zenzelezz: HTC phones were usually rebranded before android |
| 12:55.51 | zenzelezz | haste: that would make sense. It seems like they still are in some cases |
| 12:56.33 | cbreak | I think there was a linux based htc too |
| 12:56.38 | haste | it depends on the operator |
| 12:56.49 | haste | you mean like all the android phones cbreak :p ? |
| 12:56.59 | cbreak | no |
| 12:57.03 | cbreak | I mean a full linux |
| 12:57.12 | cbreak | without java intermediate layer |
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| 13:12.10 | Wobin | heheh |
| 13:12.11 | Wobin | http://skitch.com/carlfish/drh6j/adm-7809-desktop-lockups-atlassian-jira-extranet-special-projects |
| 13:20.16 | zenzelezz | "Yeah, because when I think 'Conan' I think clothes-weaving and agriculture. Protip, crafting doesn't have incongruously crammed into every MMO under the sun." |
| 13:21.21 | Lopeppeppy | Didn't Conan grow up pushing a mill wheel around in a circle? |
| 13:21.35 | Lopeppeppy | And where do you think his awesome ragged leather not-quite-loincloth came from? |
| 13:22.30 | Fisker | hey Lopeppeppy |
| 13:22.38 | Fisker | snape kills dumbledore |
| 13:22.38 | Lopeppeppy | Why hello there. |
| 13:26.59 | Lopeppeppy | I honestly don't think that was the case. |
| 13:28.07 | nevcairiel | snake kills dumbledore? |
| 13:28.32 | Lopeppeppy | No no. The snake was killed by Harry, if I remember correctly. Or maybe by Lupin. |
| 13:28.36 | Lopeppeppy | Someone offed it. |
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| 13:28.42 | Lopeppeppy | I'm sure it made nice boots. |
| 13:28.51 | Cide | hi |
| 13:29.02 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Cide. How's things? |
| 13:29.10 | Cide | good |
| 13:29.15 | Cide | just had a final |
| 13:29.22 | Cide | how are you? |
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| 13:32.53 | cbreak | starcraft really sucks lately :( |
| 13:33.19 | Cide | well yes |
| 13:33.22 | Cide | it's like 10 years old |
| 13:33.57 | cbreak | yeah, but it's not only the first version. all of them suck. |
| 13:34.35 | Cide | why? |
| 13:35.28 | cbreak | because the servers are completely unusable |
| 13:35.44 | Cide | well that's another story |
| 13:35.50 | cbreak | Of the maybe 20 to 30 games I tried to play in the last few days, I got disconnected about 15 to 25 times |
| 13:36.23 | cbreak | and since those incompetent morons decided that their servers are the only permitted way of play |
| 13:36.40 | Cide | that's a lot of crying coming from a beta tester |
| 13:37.16 | cbreak | what crying? |
| 13:37.38 | Cide | and since those incompetent morons decided |
| 13:37.50 | Kraps | http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1668 |
| 13:40.40 | nevcairiel | that one was awesome kraps :d |
| 13:43.45 | Kraps | http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/05/mwupdate.jpg |
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| 14:06.25 | Lopeppeppy | I so totally do not want to be a grown up today. |
| 14:07.52 | Mr_Rabies | watch some adventure time it's perfect for that |
| 14:08.01 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ix5QIBx5MQU |
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| 14:09.55 | Kraps | thats cartoon network? |
| 14:09.59 | Kraps | wtf |
| 14:11.01 | Kraps | "you should have stayed and fought that sexy vampire lady" WTF |
| 14:11.52 | Fisker | Kraps |
| 14:11.55 | Fisker | i fucked your sons dog |
| 14:12.30 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QS-0C8ink7M&feature=related |
| 14:12.33 | Kraps | erm |
| 14:12.42 | Kraps | which son? |
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| 14:13.54 | Fisker | the one that has a dog Kraps |
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| 14:15.23 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8OHWR9RlCM |
| 14:16.24 | Fisker | TL;DW |
| 14:18.12 | Kraps | I DONT HAVE A SON |
| 14:18.19 | Fisker | you do now |
| 14:18.57 | Kraps | not if it has anything to do with you |
| 14:20.14 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/whattimeisit/animalhands/ |
| 14:21.08 | Adys | Mr_Rabies: that is terribly confusing |
| 14:21.26 | Kraps | fucking retarded |
| 14:21.53 | Mr_Rabies | slightly more context |
| 14:21.54 | Mr_Rabies | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kdwjjMWcaA |
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| 14:29.07 | Kraps | Mr_Rabies: WGY |
| 14:29.16 | Kraps | or WHY |
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| 15:30.19 | cog|work | RAWR |
| 15:30.35 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr, baby. |
| 15:32.01 | |Jelly| | RAWR! |
| 15:34.19 | Fisker | slaps cog|work around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:37.46 | cog|work | verbs Fisker preposition a bit with a(n) adjective noun |
| 15:38.48 | Fisker | hey work|cog |
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| 15:40.22 | Fisker | why won't you hey me? |
| 15:41.47 | cog|work | hey nonny nonny and a ho ho ho |
| 15:45.43 | Kraps | whats the point of "idle till you die" maps? |
| 15:45.48 | Fisker | TF2? |
| 15:45.51 | Fisker | hats and achievements |
| 15:46.26 | Kraps | you get stuff for dying? |
| 15:47.18 | Fisker | no |
| 15:47.55 | Fisker | you get stuff for playing |
| 15:48.00 | Fisker | though they nerfed it recently |
| 15:50.57 | Kraps | what achievements can you get? |
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| 15:52.00 | Lunessa | STATION |
| 15:52.11 | |Jelly| | STTTTTTTTTTATION?!?!? |
| 15:52.11 | Kraps | ACTION |
| 15:52.30 | Maldivia | station... |
| 15:53.55 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/muh37.jpg |
| 16:00.55 | Kraps | http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/who_cares_clock.jpg |
| 16:03.50 | cog|work | lunar hole-in-one: http://lroc.sese.asu.edu/news/uploads/LROCiotw/M1225970LE_thumb.png |
| 16:06.01 | Legorol | cog|work: what are we looking at on the picture? |
| 16:06.19 | Kraps | http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/japan_then_and_now.jpg |
| 16:06.25 | cog|work | http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/05/24/lunar-boulder-hits-a-hole-in-one/ |
| 16:06.31 | cog|work | Legorol: ^ |
| 16:08.29 | Kraps | haha http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/genova_airport.jpg |
| 16:09.34 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9AySS3Ff2Y |
| 16:11.14 | cog|work | seizure room |
| 16:11.37 | olafski | that check occurs before windows actually starts? :s |
| 16:12.27 | Lunessa | .... http://xkcd.com/744/ ... life is over. |
| 16:12.45 | Legorol | cog|work: thanks for link, that makes it lot more interesting :) fascinating in fact |
| 16:12.58 | cog|work | :) |
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| 16:16.11 | Lunessa | Hell of a sand trap. |
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| 16:27.10 | Wobin | Lunessa, That must be where you wall hack your way to a home run |
| 16:27.49 | Lunessa | Wobin: Is that going to be in MLB: XXIII for PSP soon? |
| 16:28.25 | Wobin | no, just the XXX version =P |
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| 16:28.52 | Fisker | Wobin |
| 16:29.00 | Fisker | jeg kneppede din søns hund |
| 16:29.02 | Lunessa | LOL |
| 16:29.14 | Fisker | nicely timed Lunessa |
| 16:30.04 | Fisker | hmm Kraps |
| 16:30.06 | Fisker | never seen that |
| 16:30.07 | mikma | crap |
| 16:30.21 | Fisker | is that from like windows 3.1? :P |
| 16:31.01 | Wobin | Din mor kneppede dine sønner hund |
| 16:31.14 | Wobin | hm, damn tenses |
| 16:31.20 | Wobin | oh well =P |
| 16:31.27 | Fisker | owned by google translate |
| 16:31.31 | Wobin | totally =) |
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| 16:39.13 | Wobin | hm |
| 16:39.19 | Wobin | disc healing is so difficult to judge |
| 16:39.49 | Maldivia | why ? :) |
| 16:40.01 | Wobin | I know quite a few of my shields shouldn't count |
| 16:40.05 | Wobin | cause they wore off |
| 16:40.10 | Wobin | and weren't used up |
| 16:40.23 | Wobin | but there's no real way to take that into account |
| 16:40.54 | Wobin | It's certainly better for any encounter that requires a lot of movement, the instant bubbles are awesome for that |
| 16:40.56 | zenzelezz | did anyone die? |
| 16:41.08 | Wobin | well, yes, sure, there's always that metric |
| 16:41.14 | Wobin | but it doesn't help me improve |
| 16:41.23 | zenzelezz | ah |
| 16:41.43 | Wobin | I mean, for Lady Deathwhisper, it says I did 48% of the healing |
| 16:41.45 | zenzelezz | you could experiment secretly on expendable players |
| 16:42.35 | Maldivia | Wobin: are you the only disc priest - if so, write an addon that monitors all absorbs, and subtract that from what your shield is supposed to shield for, to see how much of the shield is wasted :) |
| 16:42.51 | Fisker | so Antiarc |
| 16:42.56 | Fisker | do you expect me to talk? |
| 16:44.35 | Lopeppeppy | For the good of those who are still alive? |
| 16:44.41 | Wobin | dear god, I appear to have cast 1,566 bubbles tonight |
| 16:44.59 | Maldivia | very bubbly |
| 16:45.03 | Wobin | crazy |
| 16:45.10 | zenzelezz | Wobin: that can't be true |
| 16:45.15 | zenzelezz | your hearthstone has 30 minute cooldown |
| 16:45.32 | Maldivia | your priest isn't called Bub or Bob by any chance? |
| 16:45.40 | zenzelezz | oh, priest bubbles |
| 16:46.09 | Lunessa | You're like a glass of fine champange? |
| 16:46.26 | Maldivia | or ããã«ã³ or ããã«ã³ for that matter :) |
| 16:46.28 | Wobin | that can't be right |
| 16:46.40 | Wobin | I only have 902 weakened soul debuffs cast |
| 16:47.06 | Wobin | ah, ok, 905 PW:S casts |
| 16:47.10 | Wobin | that's a bit better |
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| 16:47.52 | Wobin | these numbers are weird |
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| 16:54.56 | miica | hello ;3 |
| 16:55.14 | miica | meeh wants to do scroll frame today meeh needs some help maybe :3 |
| 16:57.34 | |Jelly| | Cool story? |
| 16:57.54 | Maldivia | scroll frames are easy |
| 16:58.56 | Maldivia | keep trying, and at some point you'll find the right combination that works for your addon, but for no other :P |
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| 17:05.06 | jnwhiteh | meh, scroll frames are actually really really simple/ |
| 17:05.12 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 17:05.59 | Torhal | They are with some thought about the task at hand. Most people, for whatever reason, look at the code and their head explodes. |
| 17:06.39 | zenzelezz | duh, it takes more than three lines of code! How can we follow such logic? |
| 17:10.03 | Lunessa | The tricksy bit, the really tricksy bit, is making sure you actually need a scroll frame. |
| 17:10.04 | Lopeppeppy | Oh no. Help, help. |
| 17:11.57 | Lopeppeppy | Nasty, tricksy hobbitses. |
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| 17:17.28 | Lunessa | Mmm... Loreena McKennitt "The Highwayman" *sigh* |
| 17:18.00 | Lopeppeppy | I sing that song on the way to work sometimes, challenge myself to get here before it's done. That's kind of impossible, but I try! |
| 17:18.42 | Thunder_Child | damn good song |
| 17:18.50 | Lunessa | The song is almost 11 minutes long. |
| 17:19.12 | Lunessa | And I have three versions of it by her. And they're all awesome. |
| 17:19.25 | Kraps | j |
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| 17:20.37 | Lunessa | NORM! |
| 17:21.29 | alestane | Close the door! |
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| 17:29.21 | Fisker | ~seen Antiarc |
| 17:29.24 | purl | antiarc is currently on #wowuidev (3d 19h 50m 11s) #wowace (3d 19h 50m 11s) #curseforge (3d 19h 50m 11s). Has said a total of 211 messages. Is idling for 7h 5m 55s, last said: 'So I need to copy that over'. |
| 17:33.42 | miica | ok |
| 17:33.49 | miica | wut i am doing wrong? |
| 17:33.51 | miica | http://pastebin.com/K1Sh1y12 |
| 17:35.47 | jnwhiteh | not capitalizing your 'I' and spelling 'what' 'wut'. |
| 17:35.54 | miica | oh |
| 17:36.15 | jnwhiteh | for one, backdrop is 'nil' |
| 17:36.19 | jnwhiteh | so that call does nothing. |
| 17:36.33 | miica | well there is backdrop up there and it works correctly :3 |
| 17:36.43 | jnwhiteh | then you have a leaked global or upvalue |
| 17:36.51 | jnwhiteh | which means you didn't post the entire file, or are doing something wrong |
| 17:36.55 | jnwhiteh | but that's neither here nor there. |
| 17:36.56 | miica | it dont show button |
| 17:36.58 | jnwhiteh | what 'doesn't work' |
| 17:37.23 | jnwhiteh | ... |
| 17:37.26 | jnwhiteh | why are you anchoring lol |
| 17:37.27 | jnwhiteh | don't do that. |
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| 17:37.39 | jnwhiteh | you can't anchor it AND set it as a scroll child |
| 17:37.40 | jnwhiteh | that makes no sense. |
| 17:37.49 | miica | hmm. |
| 17:38.03 | Fisker | jnwhiteh |
| 17:38.08 | jnwhiteh | Fisker |
| 17:38.09 | Fisker | you forgot to be a grammar nazi |
| 17:38.26 | miica | there was also 2 parent :F |
| 17:38.33 | Fisker | it would've been "what am i doing wrong" not "what i am doing wrong" |
| 17:38.42 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 17:38.45 | jnwhiteh | well |
| 17:38.48 | jnwhiteh | you didn't give it two parents |
| 17:38.49 | miica | now there is nice button :P |
| 17:38.51 | jnwhiteh | you just never gave it a template. |
| 17:38.55 | miica | yeah |
| 17:39.01 | Legorol | lol, stop picking on the poor guy's grammar/spelling, start picking on his faulty code! |
| 17:39.06 | Legorol | i'm sure there's plenty troll-worthy in there |
| 17:39.21 | jnwhiteh | I said one thing :P |
| 17:39.24 | Legorol | :) |
| 17:39.28 | jnwhiteh | at the start, and it was funny =) |
| 17:39.28 | Legorol | btw, hai jnwhiteh, how's you |
| 17:39.35 | jnwhiteh | I lack a tumour, allegedly |
| 17:39.39 | jnwhiteh | which is better than I was a month or two ago |
| 17:39.42 | Legorol | thanks god for that \o/ |
| 17:39.54 | Legorol | nice to hear all's gone well so far |
| 17:40.34 | Legorol | are you in SC2? want to 2v2 sometime? :o) |
| 17:42.24 | jnwhiteh | I'm only EU |
| 17:42.27 | jnwhiteh | so I haven't been able to get it |
| 17:42.30 | miica | :(( |
| 17:42.32 | jnwhiteh | or maybe I haven't tried harder. |
| 17:43.28 | miica | http://pastebin.com/efjBkwt3 now buttons go over each others |
| 17:43.47 | jnwhiteh | dude |
| 17:43.50 | jnwhiteh | you can have ONE scroll child |
| 17:43.51 | jnwhiteh | that's it. |
| 17:43.58 | jnwhiteh | what on earth are you trying to do? |
| 17:44.43 | miica | O,o |
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| 17:45.29 | miica | so i need to make frame and add buttons in it and then add it to scrollframe? |
| 17:46.58 | jnwhiteh | you make a child "Frame" |
| 17:47.12 | jnwhiteh | and then put the buttons in there |
| 17:47.16 | jnwhiteh | make that the scroll child. |
| 17:47.31 | miica | plaa |
| 17:51.22 | miica | http://pastebin.com/h9riFkwk :/ |
| 17:52.06 | Cide | why do you name your frame ChildPorn? |
| 17:52.19 | mikma | to raise attention |
| 17:52.31 | mikma | feissi |
| 17:52.48 | miica | :D |
| 17:53.29 | Cide | I'll raise your attention |
| 17:53.33 | haste | maybe he wants to attribute the band child pornography Cide ! |
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| 17:53.51 | miica | it dont show buttons :/ |
| 17:54.08 | Cide | that's because wow blocks child porn |
| 17:54.10 | Cide | rename it and it will work |
| 17:54.30 | miica | oh |
| 17:54.34 | Maldivia | miica: because you haven't anchored the buttons |
| 17:55.06 | miica | but somebody just said.. |
| 17:55.29 | Maldivia | you need to anchor the buttons to the frame |
| 17:55.41 | Cide | that AND rename it |
| 17:55.47 | Maldivia | yeah |
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| 17:56.23 | miica | ooh |
| 17:57.18 | miica | now i need scrollbar how i make it? |
| 17:57.54 | kd3 | gah. jay mohr's back... again? |
| 17:58.43 | Thunder_Child | si |
| 18:00.19 | Fisker | ~seen Antiarc |
| 18:00.21 | purl | antiarc is currently on #wowuidev (3d 20h 21m 8s) #wowace (3d 20h 21m 8s) #curseforge (3d 20h 21m 8s). Has said a total of 211 messages. Is idling for 7h 36m 52s, last said: 'So I need to copy that over'. |
| 18:00.28 | Fisker | i have 2 parents jnwhiteh |
| 18:01.49 | Vangual | mohr of jay indeed |
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| 18:03.39 | zenzelezz | double-Ctrl+W is one too much |
| 18:04.09 | Lunessa | kd3: Apparently Blizzard liked him, and he likes cashing their checks. |
| 18:04.22 | zenzelezz | did they use him before then? |
| 18:04.47 | Lunessa | This will be the third time. |
| 18:05.13 | Lunessa | At least last time he didn't talk about getting 'room service' before the show. |
| 18:06.33 | kd3 | winces |
| 18:06.33 | mikma | haste: http://i.imgur.com/KnAMv.jpg |
| 18:07.22 | cog|work | http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html |
| 18:07.30 | cog|work | jnwhiteh: ^ |
| 18:07.43 | Cide | nooooo |
| 18:08.26 | haste | lulz |
| 18:08.41 | kd3 | mikma; lol |
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| 18:11.50 | miica | is slider best way to do scrollbar? |
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| 18:14.23 | alestane | Pretty much the only way. |
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| 18:16.09 | alestane | Unless you WANT a text box where you type in the percentage down the page you want to scroll. |
| 18:16.23 | Lothaer | hmm i wonder uploaded Zygors Leveling Guide to WoWI and i wonder who approved it |
| 18:16.31 | Lothaer | who* |
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| 18:18.41 | NightHawkTheSane | alestane: that'd be pretty neat. ;) |
| 18:19.38 | zenzelezz | I love that alot creature |
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| 18:25.51 | Lothaer | hey ckk |
| 18:31.26 | Lunessa | Hangin' round, downtown by myself and I had so much time to sit and think 'bout myself ... and there she was. |
| 18:35.29 | miica | hmm.. |
| 18:35.31 | Lunessa | ... So I'm the only Marcy Playground fan. |
| 18:35.39 | miica | some reason DKPFrame:GetVerticalScrollRange(); gives me zero :( |
| 18:35.57 | miica | http://pastebin.com/CDjX2CfC |
| 18:37.19 | foxlit | miica: what do you expect? |
| 18:37.32 | miica | something like 200 :O |
| 18:37.48 | foxlit | Make the child taller. |
| 18:38.05 | foxlit | If the parent is 200, and the child is 200, no scrolling is required. |
| 18:38.15 | miica | parent is 100 and child 200 |
| 18:38.26 | foxlit | Oh, width. |
| 18:39.14 | cbreak | Vertical is height. |
| 18:39.16 | Kraps | http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9177254/Facebook_CEO_says_mistakes_made_privacy_changes_coming |
| 18:39.38 | cbreak | cbreak_says_facebook_is_after_you |
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| 18:40.27 | miica | parent is 50 now and Child 200 still gives 0 |
| 18:41.10 | foxlit | hrm. |
| 18:41.43 | miica | http://pastebin.com/HEL0BeGs |
| 18:42.33 | foxlit | Try waiting for the next layout pass |
| 18:42.56 | foxlit | (next OnUpdate) |
| 18:43.20 | Kraps | The molecule hydrogen sulfide contributes to the smell of feces. |
| 18:44.32 | miica | foxlit: well i dont realy neex that because i can always calculate it |
| 18:49.53 | Lunessa | Kraps: Quit reading 1001 interesting but generally not helpful facts. :P |
| 18:50.05 | Kraps | Lunessa: no u |
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| 18:57.58 | Lunessa | :( Jose Lima ... :( |
| 18:58.18 | cog|work | http://www.uselessfacts.info/ |
| 18:59.26 | mikma | haste: http://kuvaton.com/browse/14836/hard_dick.jpg |
| 19:00.50 | alestane | That is a site I dare not visit, cog. |
| 19:01.27 | cog|work | lest you spend all day fact-checking? |
| 19:04.20 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: like double cherry pie, yeah there she was |
| 19:04.34 | Lunessa | applauds NHTS. |
| 19:04.52 | NightHawkTheSane | was out getting lunch, or would have said something sooner. |
| 19:05.12 | Lunessa | I'm rocking "Vampires of New York" right now. |
| 19:05.18 | alestane | http://xkcd.com/214/ , cog|work. |
| 19:05.43 | NightHawkTheSane | nice. right now i'm rocking "code freeze in 4 hours, and i have way too much left to do" :P |
| 19:05.56 | Lunessa | *chuckle* |
| 19:09.26 | Kraps | Jay Mohr at Blizzcon is no just no |
| 19:09.47 | Lopeppeppy | Too late! |
| 19:10.15 | Kraps | yeah |
| 19:10.52 | Lunessa | He was on his best behavior last year. |
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| 19:11.56 | Thunder_Child | he is better when he is not on his best behavior |
| 19:12.20 | Lothaer | any admins available atm? |
| 19:12.30 | Lunessa | He was obviously ogling a few of the costume contest entrants. |
| 19:12.57 | Lunessa | But he was well aware that he was on TV and behaved in accordance with FCC-regs. |
| 19:14.12 | alestane | I didn't enjoy the 2008 closing comedian...he started his act with "Hello, sweaty shut-ins!" |
| 19:14.26 | alestane | And followed that with "I'm sorry, I meant pasty shut-ins." |
| 19:15.11 | Lunessa | alestane: Yeah, insulting your demographic is a bad idea. |
| 19:15.35 | alestane | He got a little better as the act went by, but it just wasn't a good thread. |
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| 19:17.09 | alestane | Listening to him talking about his wife's impatience with his fascination with the Iron Man movie was a little mollifying. |
| 19:17.37 | Lothaer | wtb admin pst |
| 19:17.50 | Kraps | Jay Mohr doesnt seem to get it either |
| 19:18.13 | Lunessa | I don't know. Jay plays Blizzard games... but his work load doesn't allow for him to be a junkie. |
| 19:18.51 | alestane | http://www.pennyandaggie.com/index.php?p=1029 I love the speed with which webcomic artists can make references to each other sometimes. |
| 19:21.11 | miica | somebody tell me slider texture :< |
| 19:21.37 | alestane | Reference here for those who don't read it: http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1668 |
| 19:22.39 | Lothaer | if any admins are reading this please delete http://wowinterface.com/downloads/fileinfo.php?id=16797 asap before it gets out of control :P |
| 19:24.08 | alestane | On what grounds should it be deleted? |
| 19:24.35 | cog|work | copyright violation? |
| 19:24.37 | NightHawkTheSane | if nothing else, that the submitter is not the owner? |
| 19:24.39 | Spejnar | if GS wasnt deleted nothing will be |
| 19:24.42 | Lunessa | ^^ |
| 19:24.46 | Lothaer | the author didnt upload it |
| 19:24.51 | Lothaer | and its copyright material |
| 19:24.57 | alestane | I'm not disputing, I just thought there should be more to the request than "please delete this." |
| 19:25.01 | Lothaer | the dude who uploaded even said hes not the author |
| 19:25.16 | Lothaer | and that particular guide is a pay to use guide |
| 19:25.21 | NightHawkTheSane | alestane: yeah, check the comments on it. the guy who uploaded it is not the author/creator. |
| 19:25.30 | alestane | Those all sound like good reasons. |
| 19:25.30 | Lothaer | might cause the guys and gals at wowi and head ache or 2 if it stays |
| 19:25.54 | alestane | I just think it's a good idea to back up your requests in cases like that. |
| 19:26.10 | Lothaer | all you had to do was read the comments to find out |
| 19:26.42 | Fisker | veni veni veni Lothaer |
| 19:26.55 | Lunessa | alestane: I'm torn. Cataclysm will have Goblins. I'm so very tempted to become Horde scum. |
| 19:26.55 | Lothaer | sorry i dont speak roman |
| 19:27.07 | Lopeppeppy | Scum! |
| 19:27.24 | Lunessa | So. Very. Tempted. |
| 19:27.26 | Thunder_Child | no Lunessa, do not go over to the dark side, the cookies arent worth it |
| 19:27.28 | alestane | It will also have worgen, so you can become a ravening beast barely held in check. |
| 19:27.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: one of us! one of us! |
| 19:27.55 | Lunessa | I have said for years that if goblins were playable I'd be one in a hot second. |
| 19:27.56 | Lothaer | ROFL i loved that event |
| 19:28.03 | Lunessa | And soon enough, they will be. |
| 19:28.11 | Thunder_Child | i want a pandarian |
| 19:28.13 | Thunder_Child | ! |
| 19:28.43 | Lothaer | do you guys remember the scourge event were you could become a ghoul and turn others into one??? that was OMG awesome |
| 19:28.54 | Esamynn | ... |
| 19:29.03 | Lunessa | I'm thinking cog|work needs to open an All-Gnome Guild and I should open an All-Goblin Guild and they can be rival engineering companies. |
| 19:29.09 | Esamynn | and this has what to do with the current topic Lothaer? |
| 19:29.57 | Lothaer | the One of Us comment by NightHawkTheSane |
| 19:30.16 | Esamynn | ahh |
| 19:30.23 | Lunessa | Cog's guild can be <Cog's Wheels> and mine can be <Boominginering Inc.> |
| 19:31.03 | Kraps | The Island in HD sup |
| 19:31.26 | Kraps | except its not :/ |
| 19:31.55 | Kaso | didn't Scarlett Johansson offer to go topless in that but michael bay turned her down |
| 19:32.18 | Lunessa | I mean, I have years invested in the Alliance. But... but... GOBLINS. |
| 19:32.42 | DWSR | Wii graphics make me cry. |
| 19:32.43 | DWSR | :( |
| 19:32.51 | DWSR | Especially when they use them for TV commercials. |
| 19:33.06 | alestane | So do I. But right now we're busy trying to see the old world from the Horde side before it changes. |
| 19:33.07 | Lothaer | now the alliance have a race they can punt instead of gnomes :D |
| 19:33.43 | Esamynn | pfft |
| 19:33.48 | Arrowmaster | Lothaer: but kicking puppys will end up getting PETA after you |
| 19:33.50 | Lunessa | alestane: I did horde up through the 40s a few times already. |
| 19:33.52 | Esamynn | why would we stop punting gnomes? |
| 19:34.17 | zenzelezz | "The new URL for this site after the switchover will be http://blogs.msdn.com/b/oldnewthing/, although there should be 301 redirects at all the old URLs [...]" - for some reason this makes me think of 4chan |
| 19:38.01 | Lothaer | Arrowmaster: i spent 3 hrs in BT killing those DEHTA NPCs on my DK a while ago |
| 19:38.09 | Lunessa | *sigh* Need more expertise; I want to replace Victor's Call but can't afford the expertise loss yet. |
| 19:38.37 | DWSR | Lunessa: Armory link? |
| 19:38.47 | Lunessa | http://elitistarmory.com/US/Kirin%20Tor/Unkle |
| 19:39.14 | Lunessa | I picked up the emblem trinket last night... and it's delicious. But... |
| 19:39.22 | Kraps | huh, one of the women is pregnant, but they werent allowed physical contact |
| 19:39.24 | DWSR | Why are you at like 14% hit? |
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| 19:39.52 | Lunessa | Because everything comes with hit and I dual weild. |
| 19:40.03 | DWSR | So? |
| 19:40.16 | DWSR | DWing DPS is tuned around 8% hit. |
| 19:40.19 | Lunessa | And I need spell hit for lightning bolt and Flame Nova nad shocks |
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| 19:41.28 | DWSR | 20/51/0 is your PvE spec? |
| 19:41.31 | DWSR | Or 16/55/0? |
| 19:41.56 | Lunessa | 20/51/0 is PVE - the other is PVP. |
| 19:42.29 | Lunessa | And my PVP spec is currently a joke. |
| 19:42.42 | Lunessa | Because it doesn't work all that well. |
| 19:43.16 | Lunessa | I should say rather - failed experiment. |
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| 19:44.54 | DWSR | You realize you have 20% hit, right? |
| 19:45.29 | DWSR | There is no reason to have that much hit rating. |
| 19:46.07 | Lunessa | I'm a little over - but there's not many options for replacing stuff with +hit on it right now. |
| 19:46.30 | Lunessa | I should kill the one gem that has +hit on it though. /facepalm |
| 19:47.37 | Lunessa | The Mark of Supremacy can probably go. too I guess. |
| 19:47.43 | DWSR | wtf are you doing with Mark of Supremacy? |
| 19:48.17 | DWSR | Upgrade Black Icicle with FGC out of lootship. |
| 19:48.45 | Lunessa | At the time, I really needed the hit and the AP - and until last night when I bought the new trinket, I'd gotten nothing else decent for the slot. |
| 19:49.05 | Lunessa | DWSR - FGC? |
| 19:49.10 | DWSR | Frost Giant's Cleaver. |
| 19:49.43 | Lunessa | Ah, haven't seen it drop yet. |
| 19:50.01 | DWSR | Drops pretty often for me. |
| 19:51.02 | DWSR | I have 2 of them, Frost DK in my guild has 1 heroic 1 reg. |
| 19:51.02 | Lunessa | Ah, I haven't gone to 10-man in forever. |
| 19:51.02 | Lopeppeppy | *weg* |
| 19:51.02 | Lunessa | I basically get into an ICC-25 and that's pretty much it. |
| 19:51.02 | DWSR | Just pug it. |
| 19:51.05 | DWSR | Lootship's such a joke. |
| 19:51.09 | Lunessa | *nod* It is. |
| 19:51.13 | DWSR | You might even get lucky and have a kingslayer in your run |
| 19:51.17 | DWSR | And do it on lolroic. |
| 19:51.30 | Lunessa | did it on lol-heroic-25 |
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| 19:52.12 | Amarande | good grief. last H-Nexus run I was doing 4.6K against the rock giant boss |
| 19:52.16 | Amarande | and yet ... I still can't queue for H HoR |
| 19:52.21 | DWSR | Also. |
| 19:52.21 | alestane | *weg*? |
| 19:52.38 | DWSR | http://www.wowhead.com/item=50852? |
| 19:52.40 | DWSR | err. |
| 19:52.42 | DWSR | http://www.wowhead.com/item=50852 ? |
| 19:52.52 | Amarande | I'm starting to wonder if God himself wouldn't be allowed to queue for H HoR |
| 19:52.53 | DWSR | ah, nvm. |
| 19:52.56 | DWSR | Also has hit rating on it. |
| 19:52.57 | Amarande | "SORRY GOD, YOU DON'T HAVE GOOD ENOUGH GEAR" |
| 19:53.17 | alestane | You probably have one low piece that's pulling your rating down, Amarande. |
| 19:53.23 | Lunessa | And haven't seen it drop. |
| 19:53.28 | DWSR | Yeah. |
| 19:53.34 | DWSR | lol |
| 19:53.44 | DWSR | Wowhead's telling me that you should use spellcaster neckpieces. |
| 19:54.25 | Lunessa | Heh. The armory also often suggests strange upgrades. |
| 19:55.17 | miica | I made ScrollFrame! |
| 19:55.21 | miica | and ScrollBar! |
| 19:55.22 | DWSR | Lunessa: What does EJ or a shaman-specific site say? |
| 19:55.31 | alestane | Congrats on that, then, miica! |
| 19:55.51 | Fisker | ~seen Antiarc |
| 19:55.53 | purl | antiarc is currently on #wowuidev (3d 22h 16m 40s) #wowace (3d 22h 16m 40s) #curseforge (3d 22h 16m 40s). Has said a total of 211 messages. Is idling for 9h 32m 24s, last said: 'So I need to copy that over'. |
| 19:55.55 | miica | now I will just scroll this next 2hours |
| 19:56.43 | Lunessa | DWSR: It's been a while since I checked. But I'm just trying to hit the Expertise break-point for melee-DPS types. Mostly it's Hit to cap, then Expertise, then Atk Power for Enhancement shaman. |
| 19:56.55 | Lunessa | Anything else is a bonus if you can get it. |
| 19:57.14 | DWSR | Every class is like that. |
| 19:57.29 | DWSR | Hit (Expertise), <primary stat> |
| 19:57.36 | Lunessa | Unless you're a warrior - in which case Armor Pen is basically GOD. |
| 19:57.45 | cog|work | unless you're a fury warrior |
| 19:57.47 | DWSR | ^ |
| 19:57.58 | DWSR | Anyway, my point is basically, would using a spellpower neck actually give you better deeps? |
| 19:58.22 | DWSR | Sure it won't be optimal. |
| 19:58.27 | Lunessa | I'm thinking not, but I've been wrong before. |
| 19:58.48 | DWSR | You have mark of supremacy equipped and you're at 20% hit rating. |
| 19:59.14 | Lunessa | 16% after racial. |
| 19:59.24 | DWSR | no, 20%. |
| 19:59.28 | DWSR | Talents. |
| 20:00.01 | Lunessa | Pardon me while I go /facepalm |
| 20:00.02 | Fisker | cog|work |
| 20:00.04 | Fisker | bitchduck |
| 20:00.28 | DWSR | Lunessa: Did you forget about DW spec? |
| 20:00.41 | Lunessa | I forgot about the bonus to hit while DW, yeah. |
| 20:01.12 | DWSR | lolurbad. :P |
| 20:01.53 | cog|work | Fisker: http://k41.pbase.com/u15/tommorules/upload/38803526.Evilduck.jpg |
| 20:01.59 | Lunessa | lol and I'm still top 10 dps lawl |
| 20:02.35 | DWSR | Lunessa: top 10 in a 25m is /shrug. |
| 20:02.57 | DWSR | There might be as few as 15 DPS |
| 20:03.19 | Lunessa | Lets just say I'm usually to 4, but didn't want to brag. :P |
| 20:03.45 | Lunessa | Beaten out by 2 fury warriors and a godlike ret paladin |
| 20:04.13 | alestane | "There needs to be a word for those brief moments of clarity where you realize just how profoundly weird your life is." |
| 20:04.18 | Lopeppeppy | Phenomenal retribution powers! itty bitty sword! |
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| 20:10.44 | alestane | http://bobshouseofvideogames.com/2010/05/24/video-game-lol-he-will-kill-you/ |
| 20:11.03 | alestane | Although I think http://bobshouseofvideogames.com/2010/05/23/video-game-lol-deal-or-no-deal/ has it beat. |
| 20:11.43 | NightHawkTheSane | this is neat: http://i.imgur.com/rvcvD.jpg |
| 20:13.03 | Kraps | oh, some of the women were there to have babies for rich people |
| 20:13.21 | Fisker | eww NightHawkTheSane |
| 20:13.31 | Fisker | i puk'd in my mouth |
| 20:14.10 | Vangual | interesting idea |
| 20:14.34 | Cide | if by interesting you mean nasty |
| 20:14.49 | Vangual | possibly |
| 20:14.58 | Vangual | i'd try it. |
| 20:24.50 | Amarande | yay, H PoS, plus Don't Look Up. :) |
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| 20:25.22 | Arrowmaster | is now beardless |
| 20:25.27 | Fisker | i'm gonna fuck you |
| 20:25.31 | Amarande | and dammit, why did horde have to lose wg when I only need 2 more shards for an heirloom weapon |
| 20:25.57 | Amarande | oh, we have it back |
| 20:26.00 | Amarande | to randoms! Quickly! |
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| 20:27.37 | Amarande | and now I NEED an heirloom 2h |
| 20:27.57 | Amarande | because ... well ... I can delay leveling the warrior to 35 no longer |
| 20:28.10 | Amarande | her bank is crammed full with herbs and I can't buy any more slots ... gotta use some |
| 20:31.55 | Amarande | probably should level the druid soon, too |
| 20:35.04 | Fisker | i leveled your druid |
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| 21:02.15 | Amarande | Bah, Hodir might take longer than I wanted :( |
| 21:03.17 | Amarande | someone bought all the relics that were on AH |
| 21:03.59 | jnwhiteh | Antiarc: EG twitter feed needs more icon =) |
| 21:05.39 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 21:05.39 | Antiarc | Poke Shadowed, that's his :P |
| 21:05.42 | Fisker | not so hey Antiarc though |
| 21:05.43 | Shadowed | wat |
| 21:05.45 | Shadowed | oh |
| 21:05.47 | Fisker | btw jnwhiteh |
| 21:05.49 | Fisker | patent that idea |
| 21:05.53 | Fisker | before Shadowed steals it again |
| 21:05.56 | Fisker | like he stole my idea |
| 21:06.07 | Fisker | man i hate those dirty thieves |
| 21:06.08 | Shadowed | jnwhiteh: I have no artistic talent :p |
| 21:06.17 | Shadowed | the extent of it is the gradients that EA uses |
| 21:06.44 | jnwhiteh | haha |
| 21:07.11 | jnwhiteh | A gopher, wearing a #1 ribbon |
| 21:07.11 | jnwhiteh | go |
| 21:07.15 | Shadowed | haha |
| 21:07.19 | Fisker | Shadowed |
| 21:07.30 | Fisker | don't you just hate people who take other peoples idea without atleast crediting the person? |
| 21:08.07 | Shadowed | Why a gopher? :P |
| 21:08.49 | jnwhiteh | cause, you fetch the data from the armory |
| 21:08.54 | jnwhiteh | gopher:// imo |
| 21:08.58 | Shadowed | oh haha |
| 21:09.12 | Shadowed | I'll see if I can find a good image or outline of a gopher |
| 21:09.31 | Fisker | Antiarc |
| 21:09.34 | Fisker | don't you just hate people who take other peoples idea without atleast crediting the person? |
| 21:09.39 | Amarande | okay, for an heirloom 2h ... crusader, icy chill, or +15 str? |
| 21:09.51 | |Jelly| | Crusader! |
| 21:09.51 | jnwhiteh | or hell |
| 21:09.58 | jnwhiteh | just the #1 ribbon |
| 21:10.02 | jnwhiteh | and Crusader |
| 21:10.12 | |Jelly| | Lifestealing for the lulz |
| 21:10.30 | jnwhiteh | Shadowed: http://all-free-download.com/graphic/vector-file/blue_ribbon_5267.html =) |
| 21:10.36 | jnwhiteh | it's a start |
| 21:10.42 | jnwhiteh | tho the colors need to be red/orange/yello ofc. |
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| 21:12.59 | Fisker | What do you think jnwhiteh ? |
| 21:13.08 | jnwhiteh | penis |
| 21:13.11 | jnwhiteh | that's what I think! |
| 21:13.35 | Fisker | well i fucked your sons dog then |
| 21:13.43 | Thunder_Child | i thought that thought has a 3sec CD |
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| 21:15.04 | Arrowmaster | what the fuck, fucking wasted 1.7gb of bandwidth to download a god damn dvdrip without subs |
| 21:15.32 | Fisker | Arrowmaster |
| 21:15.35 | Fisker | what do you mean? |
| 21:15.42 | Fisker | You can waste what you have unlimited of |
| 21:15.44 | Fisker | *sunglasses* |
| 21:15.48 | Fisker | YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH |
| 21:15.49 | Arrowmaster | true |
| 21:15.52 | Arrowmaster | but waste of time |
| 21:15.54 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: http://www.opensubtitles.org/ |
| 21:15.54 | Fisker | also just find a sub on the internet |
| 21:15.57 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 21:16.09 | Arrowmaster | ill just wait for a bluray rip |
| 21:16.11 | Fisker | that thing with all the tubes |
| 21:16.14 | Fisker | what movie is it? |
| 21:16.23 | Fisker | lol @ blurays |
| 21:16.34 | Arrowmaster | evangelion 2.22 |
| 21:16.41 | DWSR | Someone just told me instances don't have respawns. |
| 21:16.44 | DWSR | I lol'ed. |
| 21:16.46 | Fisker | "Hey lets fuck over all our customers with ambiguous update procedures to even watch the shit" |
| 21:16.50 | Fisker | Pirates: "haha fuck you" |
| 21:17.03 | Arrowmaster | DWSR: tell them to try MC |
| 21:17.18 | Amarande | oh, that's BS ... going through the waygate resets your PvP timer to 5 min |
| 21:17.36 | Adys | nevcairiel: ping |
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| 21:18.10 | nevcairiel | Adys: too late, i'm going to bed now |
| 21:18.27 | Adys | nevcairiel: dont you dare |
| 21:19.22 | Amarande | is that an unintended but not-worth-bothering-to-fix glitch or intended behavior, I wonder |
| 21:20.02 | Adys | its intended |
| 21:20.10 | Amarande | wouldn't be surprised |
| 21:20.20 | Amarande | from the emphasis on arena, to the emphasis on WG, to the emphasis on Tol Barad for cata |
| 21:20.31 | Amarande | it seems like Blizzard is almost trying to marginalize the notion of a "PvE server" |
| 21:20.35 | Adys | it has nothing to do with this.. |
| 21:21.03 | Adys | map loads reset your pvp timer |
| 21:21.12 | DWSR | lolwut? |
| 21:21.24 | Amarande | I wonder how long before content will be so infused with PvP that there won't be any point to choosing a PvE server at all |
| 21:23.04 | Amarande | It used to be on a PvE server, it was PvE, and you only had to worry about PvP, if you went into battlegrounds, enemy cities, or flagged yourself |
| 21:24.04 | Amarande | Now there's PvP world zones where being flagged is mandatory (which will be a larger role in Cata, with Tol Barad being a daily hub and not just the new WG), just passing over an enemy outpost in Northrend often flags you (used to be that you only flagged by actually fighting NPCs there) ... |
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| 21:24.55 | Amarande | or is this all gradual preparation for that eventual time |
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| 21:25.11 | Amarande | when Blizzard will stop work on WoW, but will still need the subscription fees coming in to finance their next ventures |
| 21:25.42 | Amarande | and to keep those fees, for many players the only thing that will keep the game worth playing once there stops being new content will be the unpredictable, always different each time nature of PvP? |
| 21:27.00 | nevcairiel | Oh hey, its that time of the day again, Amarande invents conspiracy theorys |
| 21:27.13 | Amarande | I dunno, it does kinda sound like sound business strategy |
| 21:27.20 | Amarande | PvE content does tend to stale eventually |
| 21:27.24 | NightHawkTheSane | nevcairiel: what, you mean that time between 12:00am and 11:59 pm? |
| 21:27.30 | Amarande | heck, look at say Guild Wars ... granted, they did design it with emphasis on PvP to begin with |
| 21:27.34 | nevcairiel | NightHawkTheSane: about right |
| 21:27.41 | Adys | Amarande, what he's trying to say is "please get real" |
| 21:27.43 | nevcairiel | anyway, zzz! |
| 21:27.43 | Amarande | but who really shows up for GW PvE content anymore besides farmers, spambots, and holiday events? :) |
| 21:27.52 | Adys | night nev |
| 21:28.06 | Adys | Amarande: Wintergrasp/tolbarad is called successful content |
| 21:28.30 | Adys | flagging in enemy cities is called mechanic-thats-already-been-in-the-game-for-14-major-patches |
| 21:28.42 | Adys | er sorry |
| 21:28.44 | Adys | 16 major patches |
| 21:28.54 | DWSR | You guys haven't already /ignore'd Amarande yet? |
| 21:29.25 | Adys | thats the easy, macfag way DWSR |
| 21:29.46 | DWSR | pshnot. |
| 21:29.46 | NightHawkTheSane | DWSR: he serves as my constant reminder that I shouldn't be so mean to inanimate objects, they're still smarter, and more reasonable, than some people. |
| 21:29.58 | DWSR | When you put it that way... :P |
| 21:30.56 | DWSR | I lol'ed. |
| 21:31.09 | Amarande | Adys: yeah, but it used to be that only entering enemy capital cities flagged you |
| 21:31.20 | Amarande | now it's "fly over this patch of land you might not even have discovered yet and yay you're flagged for pvp" |
| 21:31.40 | Adys | Amarande, no |
| 21:31.43 | Adys | its always been in the game |
| 21:31.49 | DWSR | pvefag. |
| 21:32.05 | Adys | Amarande, specifically, civilian aggro flags you |
| 21:32.14 | Adys | well, "civilian" |
| 21:32.42 | Adys | happens so that flying horde/alliance guards are civflagged as well |
| 21:32.47 | Adys | which flags you as soon as you aggro them |
| 21:32.55 | Amarande | Adys: yeah, that's where it seems to have changed |
| 21:33.01 | Amarande | it used to be, at least when I was leveling in old world |
| 21:33.02 | Adys | it hasnt. |
| 21:33.09 | Amarande | that if you didn't actually take a hostile action against a civflagged |
| 21:33.14 | Amarande | i.e., if all you did was ran past without fighting back |
| 21:33.16 | Amarande | you didn't flag |
| 21:33.19 | Amarande | now mere aggro flags you |
| 21:33.20 | Adys | You're wrong |
| 21:33.23 | DWSR | ^ |
| 21:33.34 | Adys | DWSR, I thought you macfag-ignored Amarande? |
| 21:34.00 | DWSR | I unignored him, so that I may too be reminded to not be so unkind towards the inanimate. |
| 21:34.28 | DWSR | Does anyone here have a SE Xperia X10? |
| 21:34.33 | Amarande | Adys: are you sure? I could have sworn guards in world outposts didn't flag you on-aggro in azeroth |
| 21:34.36 | Amarande | although they do in northrend |
| 21:34.46 | Kraps | wonders what futuristic material Amarande is made of |
| 21:34.48 | Adys | I'm sure, please don't argue with wow mechanics with me :p |
| 21:34.53 | Amarande | I don't think they do in outland, because I've often gotten the "guard has spotted you, run" debuff and not been pvp flagged |
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| 21:35.34 | Amarande | unless they changed it across the board in a patch |
| 21:35.49 | Adys | they havent |
| 21:36.02 | Adys | its always been like this, has never changed |
| 21:36.28 | DWSR | ~amarande |
| 21:36.28 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, amarande is is a fag. |
| 21:36.38 | DWSR | lulz. |
| 21:36.40 | Adys | oh thats real mature |
| 21:36.44 | Amarande | real mature, DWSR ... real mature |
| 21:36.47 | DWSR | Hey, don't look at me. |
| 21:36.51 | DWSR | I actually didn't do that. |
| 21:37.02 | DWSR | purl, no, Amarande is a superfag. |
| 21:37.03 | purl | okay, DWSR |
| 21:37.07 | DWSR | That I did do. |
| 21:37.20 | Adys | purl factinfo Amarande |
| 21:37.20 | purl | amarande -- created by DWSR <~DWSR@unaffiliated/dwsr> 57s ago; last modified 17s ago by DWSR!~DWSR@unaffiliated/dwsr; it has been requested once, last by DWSR, 52s ago. |
| 21:37.26 | DWSR | :P |
| 21:37.39 | Adys | purl forget Amarande |
| 21:37.39 | purl | Adys: i forgot amarande |
| 21:37.56 | harl | aw.. cute.. |
| 21:38.00 | DWSR | purl factinfo failrik |
| 21:38.00 | purl | failrik -- created by Cide <n=Cide@hus110a.bobbnet.com> at Mon Mar 17 17:36:58 2008 (798 days); it has been requested 147 times, last by Adys, 4d 18h 12m 45s ago. |
| 21:38.07 | DWSR | Only 147 times? |
| 21:38.09 | DWSR | srsly? |
| 21:38.14 | Amarande | anyway, to get back at the previous discussion |
| 21:38.16 | |Jelly| | ~failrik |
| 21:38.17 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
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| 21:38.27 | DWSR | ~fail |Jelly| |
| 21:38.28 | purl | |Jelly|, you Fail! |
| 21:38.31 | Amarande | is there a particular rationale for changing maps resetting the pvp flag, or is it some sort of easy coding housekeeping? |
| 21:38.32 | Cairenn | DWSR: do that again and you're getting banned from the channel |
| 21:38.43 | Cairenn | you do NOT mess with people's factoids |
| 21:38.54 | Cairenn | ~purl forget Amarande |
| 21:38.54 | purl | Cairenn: i didn't have anything called 'amarande' to forget |
| 21:39.06 | DWSR | heh, okies. |
| 21:39.20 | Cairenn | I'm pretty pissed off looking back over the log here |
| 21:39.33 | Cairenn | you bloodly well know that I don't allow shit like that going on in here |
| 21:39.42 | DWSR | Hey, I didn't insult him first |
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| 21:39.46 | Kraps | ~blame DWSR |
| 21:39.47 | purl | ACTION blames DWSR (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 21:39.49 | DWSR | Nor am I the only one to do so. |
| 21:39.58 | Cairenn | and who says I'm only talking to you |
| 21:40.16 | Cairenn | everyone who is guilty of it knows I'm talking to them as well |
| 21:40.43 | Cairenn | seriously, I'm pretty fucking fed up with all the bulllshit that goes on in here |
| 21:41.06 | Cairenn | curtesy, respect, decency |
| 21:41.26 | Cairenn | that is how I expect everyone to treat each other in here |
| 21:41.30 | DWSR | Can we put spelling and grammar in there, as well as common sense and engaging brain before fingers? |
| 21:41.49 | Cairenn | DWSR: don't push me, not right now, you won't like the results |
| 21:41.53 | Kraps | lol DWSR banned |
| 21:42.03 | DWSR | I'm not pushing you, it's a serious query. |
| 21:42.19 | DWSR | I apologize if you misinterpret it as trolling./ |
| 21:42.21 | harl | hugs purl, nevertheless. |
| 21:42.32 | Cairenn | the SNR in here is absolutely fucking pathetic |
| 21:42.39 | Cairenn | and I've had enough |
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| 21:43.46 | Cairenn | either you guys go back to treating each other properly, and turn this channel back into what it is supposed to be, what it used to be, or so help me I'm ready to just shut it down |
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| 21:44.06 | Cairenn | I have HAD it |
| 21:45.15 | zenzelezz | nods at Cairenn |
| 21:45.50 | Cairenn | and we now return this channel to its regularly scheduled programming |
| 21:46.33 | DWSR | Cairenn: If you're so upset about the SNR, why do you post things like this: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2651 (specifically, the "hang out", etc. portion). |
| 21:46.33 | Adys | Morning Cairenn, did you sleep well. |
| 21:46.53 | DWSR | I realize the post is old, btw. |
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| 21:47.33 | Kraps | DWSR: whaaaat |
| 21:47.35 | Cairenn | Adys: I did. You? |
| 21:47.47 | harl | sadly, all of this is kind of an internet- and globalization-based evolution into the wrong(!) direction. |
| 21:47.47 | Adys | Fantastic. could use a break from the AC though |
| 21:47.51 | DWSR | Kraps: We're hanging out. |
| 21:48.03 | DWSR | Kraps: Hanging out basically means that off-topicness is ok. |
| 21:48.08 | Cide | what's SNR anyway? |
| 21:48.11 | zenzelezz | I didn't know hanging out implied being asses to everyone you don't agree with all the time |
| 21:48.12 | Cairenn | DWSR: I don't mind there being N, but once upon the time there used to be some S |
| 21:48.12 | DWSR | Signal-noise ratio. |
| 21:48.13 | Cide | too lazy to google I know |
| 21:48.13 | Adys | sig to noise, Cide |
| 21:48.15 | Cide | ah |
| 21:48.25 | Adys | and i dont think it means what DWSR thinks it means in this channel |
| 21:48.27 | Adys | er |
| 21:48.29 | DWSR | Audio tech term. |
| 21:48.29 | Adys | in this context |
| 21:48.37 | Kraps | im pretty sure shes not mad about the offtopivness |
| 21:48.44 | Cide | I know what signal-noise ratio is, didn't recognize the shorthand |
| 21:48.49 | harl | people living in an environment changing faster than they can adapt to it leads to people getting 'dispersonal' and growing this devil-may-care attitude towards everyone, which hangs like the sword of damocles above important things like the mental health of a society. |
| 21:49.08 | Amarande | wow, for some reason I always thought when that oracle digger says something about shiny bugs it was flavor text |
| 21:49.14 | Kraps | lol harl |
| 21:49.16 | Amarande | it wasn't till now that I realized that there actually *are* shiny bugs :) |
| 21:49.26 | harl | yeah, sorry for spilling this out, but i just had to say it. |
| 21:49.44 | Caleb| | drama? |
| 21:49.51 | harl | nah.. |
| 21:49.51 | DWSR | harl: I think I can sum that up pretty nicely. |
| 21:49.55 | DWSR | I don't hate exclusively. |
| 21:49.59 | DWSR | I hate you all equally. :) |
| 21:50.00 | DWSR | :P |
| 21:50.17 | Adys | if you guys don't change topic I'm going to leak cataclysm alpha on mmoc |
| 21:50.19 | Cairenn | once about a time it was a fairly even 50/50 split between S and N - now, though .... |
| 21:50.38 | Kraps | Adys: and thats..... bad? |
| 21:50.52 | Adys | Sure it is, I could get fired |
| 21:51.11 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:51.17 | DWSR | Cairenn: Once upton a time, this channel didn't have 100+ regs. |
| 21:51.22 | DWSR | upon, rather. |
| 21:51.26 | DWSR | With more people comes more noise. |
| 21:51.40 | zenzelezz | not really |
| 21:51.46 | zenzelezz | it's basically the same people fighting |
| 21:51.49 | zenzelezz | (in here) |
| 21:52.05 | Antiarc | The point is that there is noise and you're overcontributing to it. |
| 21:52.16 | Cairenn | regardless, it doesn't mean everyone has troll all the time and treat each other like shit |
| 21:52.19 | Antiarc | We don't really have to argue dotted i's and crossed t's. |
| 21:52.37 | DWSR | Antiarc: Except it's the whole argument. |
| 21:52.39 | Amarande | Antiarc, why do I always end up saying that one "dot every i and cross every t" :) |
| 21:52.43 | DWSR | (ucwutididthar)? |
| 21:52.45 | Amarande | er, wait, that's not it |
| 21:52.52 | Amarande | "dot every t and cross every i" is how I end up saying it a lot lol |
| 21:53.03 | Antiarc | Being obtuse is just gonna get you booted. Your funeral. |
| 21:53.06 | Antiarc | Back to code with me. |
| 21:53.10 | Lunessa | Antiarc: Saw your HUD map totem radius thingy on YouTube. It looks nifty. |
| 21:53.19 | |Jelly| | ^^^ |
| 21:53.21 | jnwhiteh | Lunessa: link? |
| 21:53.33 | Antiarc | http://www.wowace.com/addons/hudmap/ has all the videos |
| 21:53.42 | Arrowmaster | jnwhiteh: videos are tagged with 'hudmap' |
| 21:53.46 | jnwhiteh | ty |
| 21:53.49 | harl | TotemRadius? |
| 21:54.02 | DWSR | Cairenn: I would hardly think that "we troll all the time". Some amount of trolling will go on all the time. If you really hate it so much, make an FB&G-esqe channel, and rule offtopic as being not allowed here. |
| 21:54.07 | Lunessa | jnwhiteh: sec.. gotta find it. |
| 21:54.07 | Amarande | say, Cairenn, maybe you'd know ... do you happen to know if the minimum gear requirement criteria for heroics/ICC5/HHoR are documented anywhere in detail? |
| 21:54.14 | Lunessa | oh ^^ |
| 21:54.19 | DWSR | Amarande: They're not, afaik. |
| 21:54.37 | Xyphoid | Amarande: i did some testing of that |
| 21:54.39 | DWSR | It's about average 219 though, I think. Judging from what I've seen from EG. |
| 21:54.47 | Xyphoid | lemme find hte post |
| 21:55.03 | cbreak | rule one of power: do not publish your rules, so you can enforce them selectively |
| 21:55.18 | DWSR | Didn't Blizzard keep the requirements vague for a reason? |
| 21:55.20 | cbreak | like a secret "no fly" list |
| 21:55.21 | DWSR | Exactly, cbreak. |
| 21:55.29 | cbreak | or a secret "censorship list" |
| 21:55.33 | cbreak | or countless other examples |
| 21:55.34 | DWSR | cbreak: Except the no-fly list means shit all, if recent events mean anything. |
| 21:55.36 | Xyphoid | i don't think trolling has to go on all the time. it's quite possible to decide not to troll people. |
| 21:55.53 | Xyphoid | http://elitistjerks.com/f15/t83483-patch_3_3_patch_notes_undocumented_changes/p6/#post1542858 |
| 21:55.54 | DWSR | Xyphoid: Some people install a troll magnet in their computers, I should think. |
| 21:56.07 | harl | just don't push it. try to get along, including those that don't get along with you. |
| 21:56.15 | Amarande | cbreak: erm, somehow I think it's automated :) |
| 21:56.29 | Cairenn | points at what harl said, then drops it |
| 21:56.36 | Cairenn | (the subject) |
| 21:56.40 | Lunessa | Antiarc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8nZK8jacMg&hd=1 - not on your hudmap page |
| 21:56.46 | Adys | loots Cairenn's drops |
| 21:56.51 | cbreak | Amarande: maybe. I just picked two examples that came to mind |
| 21:56.53 | Xyphoid | in short getting to average ilvl 150 got me into heroics |
| 21:56.55 | Cairenn | giggles at Adys |
| 21:56.59 | Antiarc | Oh. Well I should add it then. |
| 21:56.59 | Amarande | yeah ... tolerance is a good thing :) |
| 21:57.10 | Adys | Cairenn: I almost wrote droppings. maybe next expansion; |
| 21:57.12 | Amarande | couple days ago a guy came into a heroic with ungemmed gear |
| 21:57.18 | Cairenn | Adys: jej |
| 21:57.21 | Cairenn | heh* |
| 21:57.23 | DWSR | Amarande: I tend to boot those people. |
| 21:57.27 | Amarande | instead of going all OMGNOOB on him I was like ... "you know, before someone less cordial notices, you might want to get a yellow gem" |
| 21:57.41 | Amarande | I think it was only one piece that was ungemmed |
| 21:57.46 | DWSR | Oh, heh. If it's all ungemmed, I kick. |
| 21:57.46 | Amarande | but some people will go OMGNOOB for that |
| 21:57.56 | Amarande | I'm surprised I haven't gotten catcalls for my lack of a shoulder enchant yet |
| 21:57.57 | DWSR | missing 1 piece is like /shrug/. |
| 21:57.58 | Adys | Theres a mage with 10k hp in my db |
| 21:58.06 | DWSR | Were they naked? |
| 21:58.10 | |Jelly| | I miss art3mis. :P |
| 21:58.17 | Antiarc | Not too hard if they just hit 80 in level 70 raid gear. |
| 21:58.23 | Amarande | and I'm not sure if I will be able to get a shoulder enchant for a few days |
| 21:58.26 | Amarande | going to check the AH now |
| 21:58.39 | Amarande | last night I wanted to pick up the relics I needed for exalted and was greeted with a big fat NO ITEMS FOUND |
| 21:59.07 | Xyphoid | it's quite funny the tension between 'heroics are too easy' and 'lolyou don't have full enchants, kick' |
| 21:59.21 | Amarande | I'm starting to think the threshold for HHoR is a tad strict though |
| 21:59.40 | Amarande | I've been regularly topping meters in a fair number of the dungeon groups I've been in, hit 4.6K against the rock giant boss in nexus |
| 21:59.44 | Amarande | and I still can't queue for HHoR |
| 21:59.46 | Xyphoid | sure you've done HPoS |
| 21:59.47 | Xyphoid | ? |
| 22:00.06 | Kraps | Xyphoid: middle ground sucks |
| 22:00.36 | Amarande | yeah, I've done HPoS |
| 22:00.38 | Amarande | still can't queue HHoR |
| 22:00.55 | Kraps | Amarande: link your armory |
| 22:01.17 | Amarande | ick and krick are mean, too ... learned the hard way that poison nova is nasty :S |
| 22:01.39 | Amarande | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Turalyon&cn=Vladoka |
| 22:02.00 | cbreak | you're on turalyon too? Neat! |
| 22:02.13 | harl | i generally and literally do heroics with anyone(!) and never boot anyone either except if they're insulting me or my friends for no reason. |
| 22:02.14 | cbreak | hmm... but US turalyon... |
| 22:02.37 | cbreak | I remove people when they are offline for more than 10 minutes |
| 22:02.43 | harl | there's a mentally handicapped and a colour-blind person who i like to go for 1 or 2 instances more than with most of those random people who don't even greet back. |
| 22:03.09 | Kraps | Amarande: some ilvl 200s and a 187 helm? |
| 22:03.34 | Kraps | not being a snob but that looks low |
| 22:03.58 | |Jelly| | 4pt9 and can't queue for H-HoR? interesting |
| 22:04.05 | Xyphoid | yeah, that weirds me out a bit |
| 22:04.14 | Kraps | also your sigil |
| 22:04.18 | NightHawkTheSane | it takes a lot more than just 4pt9. |
| 22:04.18 | Amarande | yeah, I was about to replace the helm, but decided to replace the trinket first |
| 22:04.25 | Amarande | because I was worried about the drop in hit rating |
| 22:04.30 | NightHawkTheSane | that's only like 1/4 of your gear |
| 22:04.32 | Xyphoid | the sigil will probably do it |
| 22:04.35 | Xyphoid | that does count |
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| 22:05.15 | Kraps | on-use trinket ugh |
| 22:05.16 | harl | yes, cbreak, me too. but i've also deliberatley been in many instances with just 3 or 4 people in a party, so it doesn't quite matter either. i can still have fun either way without burdening myself with stomping on other people. |
| 22:05.22 | Kraps | i hate those |
| 22:05.35 | Amarande | Xyphoid: yeah, that's why I worry a bit for newer death knights in Cata |
| 22:05.36 | |Jelly| | http://wtfismygearscore.com/gearscore.php?n=Vladoka&s=Turalyon&r=US meh |
| 22:05.47 | Amarande | since that's the BEST trinket you can get pre badges is the one I have now |
| 22:05.54 | |Jelly| | I'm with them .. new sigil would probably do it |
| 22:05.56 | Amarande | and people will have little opportunity to get LK badges in Cata |
| 22:05.57 | Kraps | harl: catering to casuals u noob |
| 22:06.07 | Xyphoid | there'll be amazing green sigils from quests in the starter zone i bet |
| 22:06.09 | Amarande | a lot of people might be hitting 85 with the grizzly hills or worse the starter sigil |
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| 22:06.18 | Amarande | Xyphoid: hopefully |
| 22:06.27 | Amarande | I find it somewhat odd that none of the quests in Northrend provide you with one |
| 22:06.38 | Amarande | even the ones that provide other relic classes with a relic option don't have a sigil |
| 22:06.59 | Xyphoid | heh I think i still have that in my dps set |
| 22:07.42 | Adys | Antiarc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUpogpnGjiM&feature=player_embedded |
| 22:07.45 | Adys | wheres the music from? |
| 22:07.53 | Xyphoid | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dragonblight&cn=Kylearan but I can queue for hhor |
| 22:08.05 | Xyphoid | so that proves that it's not a cap based on your lowest item, which is handy |
| 22:08.16 | harl | Kraps: i'll take that as irony. so.. yes.. and i like it |
| 22:08.23 | Xyphoid | oh wait, no it doesn't prove anything, because i have a higher tank sigil |
| 22:08.32 | Dashkal | Definitely not based on lowest item. I was using the exalted SSO trinket until yesterday |
| 22:09.54 | Amarande | popular thought is that it's based on some sort of GS-like system |
| 22:09.59 | Amarande | but it's undocumented |
| 22:10.07 | Amarande | and of course I'm an EG user so I don't use GS heh |
| 22:10.52 | Antiarc | Adys: That was whatever was on lastfm at the moment |
| 22:11.44 | Adys | Antiarc: bah. figure it out |
| 22:11.44 | Adys | :( |
| 22:11.51 | Adys | i know the music |
| 22:11.53 | Adys | i forgot the name |
| 22:11.55 | Lunessa | I rather liked the music in the video I linked. |
| 22:12.32 | Antiarc | Lunessa: That's Morning After by Dead By Sunrise |
| 22:12.50 | Lunessa | I'll check it out. |
| 22:14.05 | Amarande | also, since inappropriate gear is considered, it's probably more an EG like system than a GS one |
| 22:14.17 | Amarande | however, there doesn't seem to be a minimum EG score that you can count on qualifying with |
| 22:14.28 | zenzelezz | Cairenn: http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/05/24/funny-pictures-was-a-hug/ |
| 22:14.46 | Cairenn | zenzelezz: :) |
| 22:15.47 | Xyphoid | i suspect it's a straight average ilvl across non-weapon slots counting your best item in each slot |
| 22:15.52 | Amarande | "Gear is considered whether it's worn, in your bags, or in your bank." -- from Xyphoid's analysis |
| 22:16.07 | Amarande | does this mean if you've been looting too many greens lately you can get pushed DOWN and not be able to queue places anymore? |
| 22:16.16 | Amarande | if you haven't DE'd/sold/sent them to bankalt for auction yet? |
| 22:16.24 | Xyphoid | it seems to use your best item |
| 22:17.04 | zenzelezz | Amarande: time to get rid of those grey item sets you keep for socialising |
| 22:17.16 | Xyphoid | where best = highest ilvl, i was testing with cloth spellpower pvp gear on my hunter |
| 22:19.05 | Amarande | Xyphoid: which then means if you *greed* inappropriate gear that's higher ilvl than what you have on that slot, you get pushed down till you hit a vendor |
| 22:19.11 | Amarande | right? |
| 22:19.22 | Xyphoid | no, i don't think so |
| 22:19.32 | Xyphoid | any piece of gear would either push you up or leave you steady |
| 22:19.39 | Amarande | and the sigil wouldn't matter, since it says the ranged slot doesn't seem to |
| 22:19.41 | Lunessa | A man with lots of skill can look pretty good in Twill. |
| 22:19.48 | Amarande | I suspect I need to upgrade my helm and maybe my belt |
| 22:20.00 | Kraps | have ya'll seen the new lane bryant ad? |
| 22:20.28 | Xyphoid | oh sorry yeah i misread my own post :p |
| 22:21.32 | Amarande | Kraps: I thought we didn't get to see it, because the TV station execs have all the maturity and taste of your average PUG DPS and thought "these girls are too curvy, we want only skinny minies on our ads" |
| 22:21.56 | Amarande | yay, we're in business on relics of ulduar now. |
| 22:21.59 | Kraps | thats exactly right |
| 22:22.00 | Amarande | time to do some questing. :) |
| 22:22.18 | Amarande | and some of us like curvy, and thus make this yet another reason not to watch network TV if we can help it :S |
| 22:23.27 | Kraps | a news show was comparing a victoria secrets ad/photoshoot with this ad |
| 22:23.36 | Kraps | no contest |
| 22:23.44 | Lunessa | Kraps: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMxyZQfMmM4 ? |
| 22:24.02 | Kraps | yeah Lunessa |
| 22:24.13 | Kraps | "lol shes faaaaat" |
| 22:24.19 | Lunessa | ... |
| 22:25.10 | Cairenn | I think she looks pretty damn hot |
| 22:26.00 | Kraps | well thats what normal people say |
| 22:26.04 | Lunessa | I was going to say... "tasty" |
| 22:26.17 | Cairenn | nod |
| 22:28.19 | Kraps | Cairenn: http://www.care2.com/causes/womens-rights/blog/lane-bryants-plus-size-lingerie-commercial-gets-censored-by-networks/ |
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| 22:28.46 | Lunessa | And besides... what heterosexual male doesn't want his lunch date showing up in only lingerie and a coat? |
| 22:32.13 | |Jelly| | *shrug* I think she's hot .. and healthy looking. Those two go together nicely. |
| 22:32.29 | Lunessa | *nod* |
| 22:32.51 | Dagmar | The question still remains: Does she know any tricks? |
| 22:33.03 | Kraps | http://dodsonandross.com/files/imagecache/blogpost/files/blog_images/_45541884_barbie_comparison466.jpg |
| 22:33.50 | Amarande | Lunessa: a guy who wants to actually have his lunch date go successfully in a "shirts and shoes required" restaurant, I guess heh |
| 22:33.55 | Lunessa | Dagmar: Or is she teachable? |
| 22:34.02 | Dagmar | Too much trouble |
| 22:34.17 | Cairenn | Lunessa: we aren't trick dogs >.< |
| 22:34.20 | Lunessa | Depends entirely on what you're trying to teach. |
| 22:34.29 | Amarande | I for one actually tend to prefer fuller figured women |
| 22:34.38 | Lunessa | I thought she was pretty damned hot. |
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| 22:35.00 | |Jelly| | ^^ |
| 22:35.15 | Dagmar | Now, if she were a gymnast or something, then the questin of trainability would matter to me |
| 22:35.35 | Amarande | btw, is something in character data used as part of the random number seed to determine your random heroic? |
| 22:35.44 | Amarande | Dagmar: there's always BDSM training, too |
| 22:36.05 | Amarande | I'm just wondering about that aspect of random heroics because it always seems like every character has one random heroic they get significantly more often than the rest |
| 22:36.10 | Amarande | like for me it's UK |
| 22:36.10 | Dagmar | I live in a condo, so tat's out |
| 22:36.19 | Amarande | for one guy I EG'd, it's HoL |
| 22:36.20 | Amarande | etc. |
| 22:37.12 | |Jelly| | A guy in my guild got Oculus on three 80s, two days in a row. |
| 22:37.18 | |Jelly| | I lol'd |
| 22:37.31 | Amarande | wow, three guys whose favored heroic is Oc? |
| 22:37.38 | Amarande | he's either blessed or cursed, depending on how he feels about Oc |
| 22:37.44 | Kraps | Cairenn: objectifying women is fun! |
| 22:37.47 | |Jelly| | same guy, three toons, two days in a row |
| 22:37.49 | Kraps | what what |
| 22:37.58 | Cairenn | Kraps: :p |
| 22:38.03 | Amarande | yeah, three toons whose favored heroic is Oc |
| 22:38.19 | Amarande | I seem to get Gundrak and Halls of Stone a lot, too |
| 22:38.24 | |Jelly| | Yeah. It was pretty funny. |
| 22:38.31 | |Jelly| | I get AN a lot lately. |
| 22:38.58 | Amarande | hmm, Xyphoid |
| 22:39.03 | Amarande | on the subject of that thing with the random heroics |
| 22:39.13 | Amarande | does this mean if in future I decide to build a tank set |
| 22:39.28 | Amarande | I'm going to have a lot of very sad groups if I do it after HoR becomes available, because I will get put there pretty often while undergeared tankwise? |
| 22:39.50 | Xyphoid | yep, though who knows, there could be special checking for non-dps roles |
| 22:39.54 | Xyphoid | I was testing with a hunter |
| 22:40.00 | Amarande | wonders if that's a reason why there are so many undergeared tanks in heroics |
| 22:40.11 | Xyphoid | maybe if you're queuing as a tank / healer it checks specific gear for that |
| 22:40.13 | Amarande | former DPSers who decided to build tank sets and their tank set lags behind |
| 22:40.20 | Dagmar | Amarade++ |
| 22:40.43 | |Jelly| | tank in dps gear imo |
| 22:40.51 | Xyphoid | my warrior's 61, i'll do some testing if i get around to levelling him |
| 22:41.18 | Amarande | ... aright, no way am I going to even try to grab that icethorn |
| 22:41.23 | Amarande | that could take me all day with where it is. :| |
| 22:42.20 | Amarande | (it's in sparksocket minefield, right next to a mine. lol) |
| 22:42.49 | Dagmar | You can't really start heroics with a new tank at 80 because you're likely to get beaten to death lots, and the whole "The tank has priority on tank drops" when you're running as DPS is a big drag on gear accumulation time |
| 22:42.54 | Amarande | "hey, let's land to get that icethorn!" *bouncybouncebouncebounceAGHDAMMITLETMELAND* "okay, let's try that again" *bouncybouncebouncebounce* |
| 22:43.12 | Dagmar | My DK tank set is currently half purple and half green |
| 22:43.40 | Amarande | Dagmar: I suppose you could always run with a tank that uses the other type of armor |
| 22:43.47 | Amarande | druid tank if you're plate, plate tank if you're a druid |
| 22:43.49 | Lunessa | Dagmar: I managed it on my druid, but I took a lot of abuse from people who wanted to face-roll places. |
| 22:44.08 | Dagmar | Amarande: I invariably get a paladin, warrior, or DK tank when I pug |
| 22:44.40 | Dagmar | I started a bear a few nights ago, but it's mainly just to figure out the basics cuz I'm gonna delete him and re-roll as a worgen come Catas |
| 22:44.43 | Amarande | ahh, they took our men ... it's amazing how such an unassuming looking quest becomes the most important thing to pick up in K3 :) |
| 22:45.00 | Amarande | and really, one of the most important quests of one's career :) |
| 22:45.09 | Amarande | given the essentiality of hodir to all but scribes |
| 22:45.30 | Xyphoid | the issue with new tanks is that people expect to aoe every pack - it's quite possible to do heroics with an undergeared tank it's just slower |
| 22:45.34 | Xyphoid | so you can't tank at the rate expected |
| 22:45.36 | Dagmar | Dunno how essential that is anymore since you can twink their goodies now |
| 22:45.49 | Lunessa | Actually - not all that important for alts. |
| 22:45.55 | Amarande | well, you need at least one toon with exalted hodir, anyway |
| 22:45.58 | Amarande | unless all your toons are scribes :) |
| 22:45.59 | NightHawkTheSane | Xyphoid: people /very/ quickly forget that they were once wearing a smattering of greens & quest blues *shrug* :\ |
| 22:46.05 | Xyphoid | i was sneaky when i rerolled with friends and took inscription since i hated hodir |
| 22:46.14 | Xyphoid | then had to do it anyway for the alt :/ |
| 22:46.18 | Amarande | although ... |
| 22:46.25 | Amarande | I think my tailor has to grind hodir anyway |
| 22:46.30 | Amarande | since I think that's where you get glacial bag |
| 22:46.54 | Dagmar | I'm fine with Frostweave bags |
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| 22:47.04 | Amarande | although most of my toons have yet to even get 18 slot bags |
| 22:47.11 | Amarande | my DK has mostly 16's, and a 20 from FoS |
| 22:47.15 | Xyphoid | So, who's completely in cata preparation mode now |
| 22:47.22 | Dagmar | You don't have a tailor, Amarande? |
| 22:47.27 | Lunessa | I can't wait to hear the bitching about greens replacing T10 and ICC epics. And by can't wait I really mean, "fuck you guys, I'm muting chat for the first month of the expansion." |
| 22:47.33 | Amarande | Dagmar: yeah, I do, but she's not got frostweave yet |
| 22:47.36 | Dagmar | Ah |
| 22:47.43 | Amarande | and I can't be assed to farm dreadfangs for 18's |
| 22:47.55 | Xyphoid | I can't bring myself to grind badges any more, and I'm just finishing off achievements / making money |
| 22:48.02 | Lunessa | 20s are easy enough to buy on the AH |
| 22:48.08 | Dagmar | It would be way easier to just pillage the AH for materials and just grind up to Frostweave bags |
| 22:48.17 | Amarande | Lunessa: everything's being rebalanced, so we don't know how the greens will compare to current epics |
| 22:48.32 | Amarande | even the gear we have now can't be anything like it is now |
| 22:48.49 | Amarande | otherwise, with the new "everyone gets 50k hp!" thing, it would be really hard to balance the cata leveling areas |
| 22:48.51 | Xyphoid | pretty unlikely quest greens will replace icc epics - the BRD dungeon blues were ilvl 264 |
| 22:48.52 | Lunessa | Amarande: I expect all the new gear from quests/drops while leveling will be higher iLevel. |
| 22:49.11 | Dagmar | What? BRD dropping i264? |
| 22:49.20 | Xyphoid | blackrock descent, the new dungeon |
| 22:49.23 | Dagmar | Oooh |
| 22:49.24 | Amarande | Lunessa: that might be true, seeing as the enchants from what we saw leaked before it was taken down appeared to need ilvl 300 |
| 22:49.39 | Xyphoid | 264 blues are worse than 264 epics of course |
| 22:49.42 | Dagmar | Yeah I should pound that place again tonight for those last two engineering schematics |
| 22:49.57 | Lunessa | Right. 33 more levels over ICC stuff = bigger budgets. |
| 22:50.10 | Amarande | anyway. because they're going to a new philosophy about hp, where everyone's going to get the HP of current tanks |
| 22:50.14 | Xyphoid | oh, do you mean icc 5-man epics |
| 22:50.23 | Amarande | they're going to have to rebalance all the gear we have now too in order to make the transition work |
| 22:50.29 | Dagmar | Amarande: From warlocks stacking stamina. :) |
| 22:50.56 | Amarande | otherwise, either people will curbstomp hyjal or anyone who wasn't a tank during LK will be like OMGIDIESOEFFINGFAST/CRY |
| 22:53.15 | NightHawkTheSane | dont really see why current gear needs to be rebalanced. |
| 22:53.18 | NightHawkTheSane | it wasn't for BC. |
| 22:54.02 | Amarande | Night: BC didn't also have such a massive change to the health paradigm as Cata is planning to, though |
| 22:54.10 | Amarande | BC continued the previous "squishies have less health" one |
| 22:54.28 | Amarande | current tanks probably won't notice the cata health jump, but unless they smooth it over with a rebalance, everyone else will |
| 22:54.40 | Amarande | that or leveling 80-85 will just be a joke for current tanks |
| 22:55.03 | Amarande | btw: those of you who looked at my armory |
| 22:55.23 | Amarande | should I be OK just getting a healer for AoA and 2-manning it? |
| 22:55.29 | NightHawkTheSane | uh, bc significantly reduced cost of sta in the item budget. pretty much every bc item had much more sta. |
| 22:55.49 | NightHawkTheSane | the same basic thing is happening with cata, just maybe more significant |
| 22:55.49 | Xyphoid | AoA? |
| 22:55.56 | Amarande | amphitheater of anguish ... in zul'drak |
| 22:56.06 | Amarande | still need to do it, as it's mandatory for the ZD zone quest achievement |
| 22:56.23 | NightHawkTheSane | all they need to do is give you green gear that can handle it |
| 22:56.24 | Dagmar | Just think of it like a game show you're allowed to cheat at |
| 22:56.28 | pnorman_ | Can be two manned |
| 22:56.28 | NightHawkTheSane | which they will |
| 22:56.36 | Dagmar | Whack mobs inna face, collect munnies |
| 22:56.44 | Xyphoid | i think anyone in current epics will have no trouble levelling |
| 22:56.59 | Dagmar | Xyphoid: At least until 82 |
| 22:57.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Xyphoid: assuming we mean "current top end" epics, i agree |
| 22:57.39 | zenzelezz | well, certain vanilla epics lasted me until 70... BC epics lasted me mostly until 80 |
| 22:57.41 | NightHawkTheSane | but, i dont think ANYONE will have that much trouble leveling. either your gear is better than what you earn, and you keep it, or it isn't and you upgrade. where that point occurs for any individual piece of gear is immaterial |
| 22:57.43 | Fisker | Antiarc |
| 22:57.44 | Fisker | it is cold |
| 22:57.59 | Xyphoid | i mean presumably level 78 goblins in storm peaks quest greens will head to these zones |
| 22:58.07 | Dagmar | THey need to toughen up the newbie zones a bit |
| 22:58.11 | NightHawkTheSane | zenzelezz: yeah, depending on the item/slot/itemlevel, sure, and that'll probably happen less in cata (maybe, i dunno), but my point remains ;) |
| 22:58.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Xyphoid: exactly |
| 22:58.26 | Dagmar | Seeing everything be non-aggressive until yer level 6 makes that first bit b-o-r-i-n-g |
| 22:58.52 | Dagmar | That newbie night elf quest where you go snatch a spider egg is freaking TOO easy as it is now |
| 22:58.52 | Amarande | Dagmar: it's probably a good thing all told, though |
| 22:59.02 | Amarande | I still remember when I was leveling my very first character, a blood elf priest |
| 22:59.24 | Dagmar | Amarande: THey could just soften the low-level mobs up a bit at least and make them be aggro again |
| 22:59.29 | Amarande | and at low levels ... that is so fragile that doing the quest where you go up the blood elf tower thingy to kill the named mob in the very first subzone |
| 22:59.57 | Dagmar | I mean, you USED to have to fight your way into that cave, grab the egg, kill the understandably pissed off mother spider, and fight your way back out |
| 22:59.57 | Xyphoid | i think making 1-6 easy isn't the end of the world |
| 23:00.07 | Amarande | Xyphoid: I think it will be worse than that |
| 23:00.08 | Dagmar | Now you just run in, grab the egg, run back |
| 23:00.24 | Jerub | is anyone else seeing their gold come up as 0g0s0c in the auctionhouse interface? |
| 23:00.25 | Amarande | hyjal may have to be even more silly easy than that, because there will be all the people at level 78 in Grizzly or Zul'Drak greens |
| 23:00.26 | zenzelezz | Dagmar: that whole everything-neutral business has made all the starter areas dull, yeah |
| 23:00.40 | Dagmar | So the first six levels amount to running and fetching, with a side order of "Yes, we know your're a druid, but it's vitally important that you start by killing off all the wildlife in this area" |
| 23:00.49 | Amarande | I wonder if there will be extra quests in Durotar to make up for the loss of the Echo Isles quests |
| 23:01.02 | Amarande | or if orcs and trolls will have to get 8-10 or so in eversong or tirisfal |
| 23:01.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: its dull, and kinda boring, yes, but probably vastly more accessible to everyone. |
| 23:01.17 | Dagmar | Trolls will probably be getting quests from Echo Isles |
| 23:01.21 | zenzelezz | Dagmar: if you're a night elf, it's mostly "we sent a guy to scout but he hasn't reported check plz" |
| 23:01.25 | Xyphoid | somehow i suspect orcs and trolls won't have to go to eversong |
| 23:01.33 | Dagmar | zenzeless: That was just the one guy |
| 23:01.42 | Amarande | also: is Gnomeregan going to cease to be an instance? |
| 23:01.48 | zenzelezz | Dagmar: do Darkshore and Ashenvale and you'll see what I mean |
| 23:02.02 | zenzelezz | night elves really need to learn to move in groups |
| 23:02.02 | Dagmar | "Oh! Hi there. How did you know I was here?" "Umm... I followed the shiny yellow arrow, dude." |
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| 23:02.21 | cog|work | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5yPkxCLads |
| 23:02.32 | Dagmar | Amarande: Unless the gnomes REALLY eff things up it'll be a new gnome starting area, afaik |
| 23:02.46 | Amarande | Dagmar: so there will indeed be an instance taken out, then |
| 23:02.50 | Amarande | discombobulator ray added to trainer? |
| 23:02.53 | Xyphoid | i was playing DDO and it kind of struck me as odd that now in DDO you have to walk further to get to dungeons |
| 23:02.55 | Xyphoid | than WOW |
| 23:03.07 | Fisker | hey cog|work |
| 23:03.10 | Fisker | can i ask you a question? |
| 23:03.18 | cog|work | you just did! bwahahaha |
| 23:03.19 | Xyphoid | when i was explaining to someone 'yeah to get to the dungeon walk out of town, turn left, follow the path' |
| 23:03.26 | Fisker | oh snap cog|work |
| 23:03.27 | Amarande | and that ray is more important than it looks ... God knows I would have been SO happy if my priest had had access to that ray, which can be used by non engineers ... |
| 23:03.27 | Fisker | anyway |
| 23:03.31 | Dagmar | zenzeless: yes, it's the transition between expecting to see singing teddy bears over the next hill to 'wilderness area that thinks you're a snack" which doesn't sit well with me |
| 23:03.37 | Fisker | what do you think about stealing peoples ideas but not crediting them? |
| 23:03.40 | Amarande | mainly because it looks like it would be incredibly useful to help squishy classes survive against mobs that enrage |
| 23:03.55 | Amarande | particularly in the 30s, where mobs start getting more heavy duty but you don't have your (usually very significant) 31 point talent yet |
| 23:04.00 | Dagmar | Xyphoid: I don't mind the running around. I mind the WoW refugees who tank like a post |
| 23:04.14 | cog|work | Fisker: makes the world go 'round |
| 23:04.17 | Dagmar | Like, jesus christ man, don't just STAND THERE and take hits! |
| 23:04.34 | Xyphoid | Dagmar: oh sure, i just thought it was hilarious that DDO, the pure instance game, now has more wilderness travel when grouping |
| 23:04.45 | Fisker | then i hate you cog|work :( |
| 23:04.45 | Dagmar | It was never a pure-instance game |
| 23:05.00 | cog|work | <3 |
| 23:05.03 | Dagmar | Plus there's mobs that will try to eat you on the way to those instances |
| 23:05.05 | Amarande | WTB cable service that censors out Education Connection ads |
| 23:05.35 | Xyphoid | well the wilderness areas are still instanced, but yeah (i'm not trying to criticise the game btw) |
| 23:05.36 | Fisker | i hate engadget cog|work ? |
| 23:05.53 | Fisker | So then we found out you could bypass hulu by changing the Nexus One user agent string |
| 23:05.58 | Fisker | then engadget posts it |
| 23:06.02 | Amarande | education connection ads = horrible hip-hop ad jingles and weird URLs that look like they came out of scam emails |
| 23:06.03 | Fisker | Hulu = DENIED |
| 23:06.06 | Fisker | :( |
| 23:06.10 | Dagmar | Xyphoid: I'll still say I like it until probably the point at which I see the first spider when I have a wizard in tow |
| 23:06.10 | Fisker | bastards |
| 23:06.15 | Cide | more like huluwned |
| 23:06.20 | zenzelezz | I remember in Anarchy Online where it used to be (don't know if it still is) that if you died in a raid, you were screwed until the reset; since there was no combat resurrection, no summoning, and no-one would go back through all the trash to help you |
| 23:06.43 | Amarande | zenzelezz: wow, that sounds like fail game design, why did anyone even play |
| 23:06.45 | zenzelezz | but then the raids were fairly easy... just "be the blob" and shoot stuff |
| 23:06.58 | Dagmar | Amarande: Because your alternative was EverQuest |
| 23:06.58 | zenzelezz | Amarande: AO was an early MMO, they did a lot of bad stuff |
| 23:06.59 | Fisker | Cide |
| 23:07.01 | Fisker | veni |
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| 23:07.19 | Xyphoid | i am really enjoying ddo at the moment, the dungeons are sweet |
| 23:07.21 | Cide | good for you |
| 23:07.28 | Xyphoid | definitely worth a play during the wow content lulls |
| 23:07.28 | zenzelezz | Amarande: AO was my first MMO. I loved it. If I was to go back now, I wouldn't like it, because now I've seen better... but back then, it was fun |
| 23:07.46 | |Jelly| | EQ ^ |
| 23:07.53 | Dagmar | Amarande: In beta, AO's trash mob were 'reets' and 'ereets' and they'd say things like "I'LL GO GET MY MAIN!" when you killed them |
| 23:07.55 | Jerub | well, there was that mmo that required you do like 15-20 minutes of world travel to get to an instance, and you had to chat to other players to convince them to fill out your 5 man party. |
| 23:08.16 | zenzelezz | Dagmar: that wasn't just beta, it's still in |
| 23:08.22 | Dagmar | Jerub: You mean EveryQuest? |
| 23:08.28 | alestane | Lunessa: Help ... http://clientsfromhell.net/post/624941851/client-can-you-make-the-about-us-link-say |
| 23:08.30 | Jerub | Dagmar: no, i mean wow before 3.3 |
| 23:08.32 | Xyphoid | i think he means WoW |
| 23:08.34 | zenzelezz | reets were the birds, leets (and eleets, supaleets, etc) were rodent-like |
| 23:08.53 | Dagmar | zenzeless: Ah, I went back about three years ago to mess about but I was never in any areas with them in |
| 23:08.54 | Xyphoid | remember flying undercity -> kargath to do BRD |
| 23:09.04 | Jerub | Xyphoid: i was thinking the same thing. |
| 23:09.13 | Lunessa | alestane: my soul just withered and crumbled when I read that. |
| 23:09.23 | Kraps | alestane: its a legitimate strategy! |
| 23:10.01 | zenzelezz | Dagmar: could be, they've changed the starter areas many times |
| 23:10.42 | Kaso | what would be the best way to get all KEY_* global variables |
| 23:10.48 | zenzelezz | I still wish to go back to AO all the time, but I know it just wouldn't be fun anymore |
| 23:10.59 | Dagmar | The poly-count would kill your eyes |
| 23:11.01 | Fisker | slaps alestane around a bit with a large trout |
| 23:11.08 | Dagmar | ...and the ads, if they're still doing those |
| 23:11.22 | Kaso | i could iterate over the _G but that hardly seems efficient, but keeping my own table of them means i have to update on globalstrings change |
| 23:11.29 | zenzelezz | Dagmar: the ads aren't bad if you're paying, then you just get game-related ones |
| 23:11.33 | Fisker | man i chuckl'd alestane |
| 23:11.37 | Fisker | that was funny as hell |
| 23:11.40 | Kaso | i guess the solution would be to catch the ones from _G on start of game |
| 23:12.02 | zenzelezz | Dagmar: the think, obviously, is I remember all the fun parts, how much I loved their naming and humour, but I forget all the bad stuff until I reactivate my account for a month :-p |
| 23:12.16 | Dagmar | You don't really have to reactivate. It's free now |
| 23:12.28 | Dagmar | I *did* like their sense of humor |
| 23:12.44 | zenzelezz | the spell names were so much fun, as well as item names |
| 23:13.00 | Lunessa | If they handled AO at all like AoC, I can't imagine it was ever any fun. |
| 23:13.07 | Jerub | although there's that other game that when you wipe in an instance you've been teleported to, no one has any idea how to run from the graveyard to the instance. |
| 23:13.07 | Dagmar | I feel sorry for the Ryzom folks |
| 23:13.20 | Kraps | so, whats a good mmo? |
| 23:13.21 | zenzelezz | Lunessa: in what sense? (not arguing, just interested) |
| 23:13.25 | Dagmar | Years and years and years after they said they would, they open the server and client code, and no one cares anymore |
| 23:13.52 | zenzelezz | well, they did make it to Slashdot... but I haven't heard much since |
| 23:14.14 | Dagmar | I got as far as looking at their pages to talk about it, and just... lost interest |
| 23:14.31 | Fisker | !LOL |
| 23:14.35 | Dagmar | Too little, too late |
| 23:14.36 | Lunessa | zenzelezz: I never played AO, I tried AoC - bad UI was bad, Uncanny Valley Graphics, split between mmo and single player mode was hideous, quests were terrible, and customer service non-extant. |
| 23:14.50 | Fisker | this guy won't let Blizzard get his IP!11 |
| 23:14.54 | Dagmar | Age of Pudding |
| 23:14.57 | Fisker | good luck playing WoW |
| 23:15.19 | MoonWitch | Meh, IP addresses.. Bliz won't release IPs used to log in with an account. :( |
| 23:15.20 | Dagmar | Fisker: Lemme guess--he's afraid they'll steal it and never give it back? |
| 23:15.35 | Fisker | maybe! |
| 23:15.36 | zenzelezz | Lunessa: AoC's graphics are utterly better than AO's (thankfully, given their age difference). I think AoC's problem was more their models/textures |
| 23:15.50 | Dagmar | I'm crossing my fingers Blizz will use stern wording with Facebook |
| 23:16.02 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=13525765844&sid=1 <-try to see if you can make heads or tails of it |
| 23:16.03 | Dagmar | If they don't it's likely going to be a damn nightmare of spearfishing |
| 23:16.12 | Fisker | i hope facebook dies |
| 23:16.22 | zenzelezz | not sure about the UI in AoC... in AO it was fairly plain at first, then they did an overhaul that made it bleh |
| 23:16.41 | Lunessa | zenzelezz: the animated cut scenes in AoC were not bad. But... my character ran like he has a post in his posterior and the face failed to move and the arms flailed like I was having a seizure. |
| 23:16.59 | zenzelezz | but as for quests, AO had none. Their philosophy at release was something like "here's 200 levels, go find something to kill" |
| 23:17.05 | Lunessa | And after playing for 15 days, I canceled. |
| 23:17.07 | Dagmar | Fisker: Lead in his drinking water |
| 23:17.11 | zenzelezz | (literally 200 levels) |
| 23:17.17 | Dagmar | He lists everything EXCEPT what piece of shit virus scanner he's using |
| 23:17.20 | MoonWitch | Fisker @ that link : honestly -- I think he took too much lala pills. |
| 23:17.37 | MoonWitch | Anyone ever do a wireshark when they log into wow? |
| 23:17.43 | zenzelezz | Lunessa: when did you try it? Your experience sounds about the same as mine when I tried it around the release |
| 23:17.47 | MoonWitch | all data except your pass is sent :P |
| 23:17.48 | Dagmar | whispers "Yes" |
| 23:18.05 | Lunessa | zenzelezz: A month or so after release. |
| 23:18.14 | Dagmar | I hadda peek to see how encrypted it was or wasn't |
| 23:18.18 | Lunessa | Several friends asked me to play. They all quit before I did. |
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| 23:19.10 | zenzelezz | Lunessa: they claim to have made lots of improvements, but I doubt the graphics and animation have changed much. Personally I don't mind since Conan's not really my thing anyway, but it makes me worry about The Secret World |
| 23:19.18 | Nechckn | Sorry, when you say AO, which one is that? |
| 23:19.20 | MoonWitch | @Dagmar it's not really encrypted sadly |
| 23:19.24 | zenzelezz | Nechckn: Anarchy Online |
| 23:19.40 | Nechckn | Ah, kk, makes sense! sorry, it just was not clicking. |
| 23:19.47 | zenzelezz | no worries |
| 23:19.55 | zenzelezz | a lot of people aren't familiar with it =) |
| 23:20.07 | Lunessa | zenzelezz: I liked the Howard novels and Conan was awesome. But the game is a mockery of those cherished memories. |
| 23:20.13 | Nechckn | I have heard of it, and was curious, but neveer tried it. |
| 23:20.34 | zenzelezz | Lunessa: this is why I don't play games (or watch movies) about books I like (here's looking at you, Lord of the Rings) |
| 23:20.43 | Nechckn | AoC was blah... at least from my limited experience with it. |
| 23:20.58 | zenzelezz | with Anarchy Online's backstory, I really feel they could have made a very good sci-fi MMO if they did it today (and *learned* from AO+AoC) |
| 23:21.19 | Lunessa | zenzelezz: Yeah, I didn't play LotR either. |
| 23:21.21 | zenzelezz | but I'm sure that's more a wishful dream |
| 23:21.37 | Lunessa | I'm hoping the WH40K MMO doesn't suck. |
| 23:21.48 | Lunessa | it probably will, but I can dream, right? |
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| 23:22.08 | zenzelezz | I don't know what to make of that one. I'm not particularly familiar with WH40K, but it does sound interesting |
| 23:22.23 | Nechckn | LOTRO is actually sort of fun, if you push your thoughts of the books far to the side and treat it like a "Fan Fiction" account. |
| 23:22.29 | Dagmar | When you see them use the phrase "WoW killer" you can go ahead and write them off |
| 23:23.18 | Lunessa | Nechckn: The first time someone in general said "LOL" I'd be unhappy with the game, so I skipped it. |
| 23:24.08 | Nechckn | Folks generally only do that in the OOC channel, it is fairly Role Playing friendly. |
| 23:24.21 | zenzelezz | Dagmar: truth |
| 23:24.29 | Dagmar | It would be nice if we got an OOC for Cata |
| 23:24.29 | Nechckn | Just saying, but I can understand not wanting to sully the rest, too. |
| 23:24.45 | Nechckn | Yeah, I think that, too, Dagmar |
| 23:24.48 | Xyphoid | all i want for the 40k mmo is to build my ork's own buggy with extra spikes and guns |
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| 23:25.02 | Dagmar | .,..then we'd maybe be able to run the morons who think we all give a damn about their homophobia and scataphilia out of /2 |
| 23:25.14 | Xyphoid | i always assumed general is OOC |
| 23:25.17 | zenzelezz | re. LotRO, I'm told it's pretty good, and I don't make a judgement one way or the other... I just don't wish to take the chance of playing it for the memories I have of the book |
| 23:25.25 | Xyphoid | say is IC, that's it surely |
| 23:25.42 | NeoTron | Dagmar: likely story |
| 23:25.43 | Dagmar | Xyphoid: Yes, but General doesn't go across cities, and those morons think it's vitally important that they irritate as many people as possible with their ramblings |
| 23:25.58 | Dagmar | Nevermind that freaking custom channels are global by default |
| 23:26.05 | Nechckn | Yeah, trade is used way too much. |
| 23:26.22 | Nechckn | And way too much for the topics you noted. |
| 23:26.22 | Xyphoid | i mean, if i wanted any kind of immersive experience, general and trade can be turned off |
| 23:26.34 | Dagmar | ...and if I made an addon that messaged people "FUCK OFF" when they say 'anal' in /2, I'd be the bad guy |
| 23:27.17 | zenzelezz | you know... if Blizzard made server-wide chat channels as a premium subscription feature, and actually moderated those channels, I'd happily pay a little extra each month |
| 23:27.23 | Jerub | hm, my /2 has been anal free for weeks. |
| 23:27.23 | MoonWitch | lol -- I actually filter that out :P |
| 23:27.25 | Dagmar | Same here |
| 23:28.08 | alestane | huggles Cairenn just cause. |
| 23:28.12 | zenzelezz | custom channels rarely seem to catch on on the realms I play on... only one I remember was on US-Arthas, where horde in vanilla had a "club60" channel |
| 23:28.19 | Cairenn | huggles alestane back :) |
| 23:28.25 | NeoTron | you seen to have an issue with something that's your own fault |
| 23:28.33 | MoonWitch | wait Cairenn is here - and not away? |
| 23:28.39 | NeoTron | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:28.40 | Dagmar | Bookclub is about the only one I know of |
| 23:28.42 | Cairenn | LIES! |
| 23:28.46 | MoonWitch | lol |
| 23:28.47 | NeoTron | they ceased being useful around open beta in vanilla wow |
| 23:29.04 | Dagmar | For like a year I sat my client in #Hunter. Twice someone else showed up |
| 23:29.10 | zenzelezz | actually, Trade was mostly okay on my realm until mid/late BC |
| 23:29.14 | Lunessa | Wait? She's here? Dude! Hide the stuff! |
| 23:29.24 | Xyphoid | we use custom channels a lot for multi-guild structures |
| 23:29.28 | MoonWitch | hides everything. |
| 23:29.39 | NeoTron | wow needs better support for custom channels |
| 23:29.39 | alestane | http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1671 , Cairenn. |
| 23:29.54 | MoonWitch | I still sit in 3 custom channels (since I don't /1 or /2) |
| 23:29.56 | NeoTron | or rather, wow should at least have some sort of guild alliance structure |
| 23:30.08 | Dagmar | NeoTron: About the only thing it needs is some form of channel registry |
| 23:30.09 | Cairenn | alestane: heh |
| 23:30.29 | alestane | "It CAN't be a bad decision, it resulted in CARROT CAKE!" |
| 23:30.54 | Lunessa | alestane: *nod* |
| 23:31.16 | Dagmar | NeoTron: Porting over channel management code from IRC wouldn't be a big deal, excepting the moment a custom channel ran low on people, some dimwit would surely take it over and lock it if it were semi-popular |
| 23:31.45 | zenzelezz | occasionally I wish WoW allowed chat bots (clients that only connect to the chat servers), but it'd most likely be too difficult to keep them from being used for spam and griefing :-/ |
| 23:31.47 | alestane | One of the strangest comments from the time Jerry Holkins and Mike Krahulik came to MIT...someone stood up and said, "This isn't really a question, but I wanted to say that I've eaten carrot cake soup; and I've watched lesbians make out; and you were right." |
| 23:32.00 | Dagmar | heh |
| 23:32.03 | MoonWitch | alestane, whut? |
| 23:32.25 | alestane | Might take me a minute to find the reference, MoonWitch. |
| 23:32.27 | Dagmar | zenzless: THat would be nice |
| 23:32.56 | Dagmar | I'd be porting over my old mechanisms from IRC like *tomorrow* if there were chatbots I could use to maintain a custom channel |
| 23:32.59 | zenzelezz | Dagmar: it worked in Anarchy Online, but then that wasn't such a popular game, so the spammers weren't targetting it |
| 23:32.59 | MoonWitch | alestane, it's ok - I gotta shower in a bit and sleep. Gotta get up in 4hrs ... |
| 23:33.35 | Dagmar | zenzeless: A minimum level requirement would definitely be in order as well |
| 23:33.41 | Xyphoid | i wouldn't be shocked to see gchat accessible from out of game at some point as a service like the AH thing |
| 23:34.11 | Dagmar | Just something to make it keep anyone who isn't level 40 or 80 or of a given class/profession out would be a useful feature |
| 23:34.18 | zenzelezz | Dagmar: if you could do invite-only channels, you could run stuff like level checks, blacklists, etc... but again I'm dreaming of too much |
| 23:34.44 | zenzelezz | you couldn't customise much in Anarchy Online, but the chat bot coders were plentiful |
| 23:34.51 | Dagmar | ...or say if you could make #Enchanting and only people with the Enchanting skill above n would be able to announce in it |
| 23:34.59 | alestane | http://www.penny-arcade.com/2003/06/11/ , MoonWitch. |
| 23:35.10 | Dagmar | zenzless: Yeah I think that was a matter of the AO devs taking advantage of something they didn't have the foresight to stop |
| 23:35.24 | Dagmar | It started happening, it worked well, they elected to not ban it |
| 23:35.25 | zenzelezz | most likely =) |
| 23:35.31 | alestane | "This woman has no idea that she's just sold me the trigger to a flavor gun. Carrot Cake Soup is like the taste of watching girls make out. It has an extraordinary power that oscillates between gentle and overwhelming, between light and dark, between pleasure and more pleasure." |
| 23:35.39 | MoonWitch | alestane, thanks |
| 23:35.57 | Lunessa | alestane: http://tfl.nu/gfaw |
| 23:36.11 | zenzelezz | Dagmar: actually, they had an official Java chat client once. Think it went away, but people decompiled it and learned how to make chat bots in PHP (at first, then other languages), and the developers seemed to not mind |
| 23:36.31 | MoonWitch | NOOOOO You linked TFLN :*( Now Iĺl be stuck at it all night. |
| 23:36.43 | Dagmar | Well, I saw people screwing around with chat bots, and then someone set up a *nice* info server, and then the devs decided to like it |
| 23:37.14 | zenzelezz | Dagmar: yeah. Helpbot eventually even got advertised in-game in the starter dungeon |
| 23:37.21 | Dagmar | I never even saw the Java thing you mention |
| 23:37.22 | alestane | I found that one a little weird, Lunessa, but I was amused by http://textsfromlastnight.com/Text-Replies-17036.html. |
| 23:37.26 | MoonWitch | Lunessa, http://www.tvscoop.tv/2008/05/woman_uses_own.html < thats the video of it |
| 23:37.30 | zenzelezz | Dagmar: as far as I know it wasn't around for long |
| 23:37.59 | Dagmar | I would be *rather* handy to run a chat bot for auction stats now |
| 23:38.06 | MoonWitch | Lunessa, after seeing the size of them - yeah I can totally see how she can do it |
| 23:38.06 | zenzelezz | Dagmar: I remember you could use Helpbot for trading... send it item links, then go to its website, fetch a pre-BBCoded message ready for their Trade forum |
| 23:38.20 | zenzelezz | (the trade forums were actually a decent idea... I'd not mind that for WoW) |
| 23:38.23 | Lunessa | MoonWitch: I'm scarred for life |
| 23:38.25 | Dagmar | IMagine that instead of polling hit-or-miss guildmate data, you could poll a bot that has been watching the AH hourly for weeks |
| 23:38.52 | Dagmar | THere would be graph-porn clients within days |
| 23:38.59 | Dagmar | s/clients/addons/ |
| 23:39.13 | zenzelezz | Dagmar: someone did something like that in AO actually... it listened to the trade channel, and if you asked for something ("WTB ...") it would send you a message with recent messages about the item |
| 23:39.27 | MoonWitch | Lunessa, I am intrigued actually - HOW can one achieve this without intense pain... |
| 23:39.46 | MoonWitch | heck how can she stand and walk |
| 23:39.52 | Lunessa | MoonWitch: Most of that tissue isn't nerve-bearing. |
| 23:39.59 | NeoTron | Xyphoid: I believe eq and swg has had out-of-game chatting (jabber based I believe) for years |
| 23:40.08 | Xyphoid | Dagmar: people have already written the code for that |
| 23:40.10 | MoonWitch | I would certainly hope so, but I am so not going to test it out with mine. |
| 23:41.39 | alestane | It may not be, Lunessa, but my wife will happily affirm that being smacked, squished or flattened there is still generally not very fun...especially at certain times of the month. |
| 23:41.41 | Lunessa | MoonWitch: *nod* |
| 23:41.51 | Lunessa | alestane: /concur |
| 23:42.13 | MoonWitch | and here I am - refusing mammographies |
| 23:43.11 | zenzelezz | curse you guys for making me go to sleep thinking of chat bots |
| 23:43.20 | MoonWitch | lol zenzelezz |
| 23:43.35 | alestane | Also not something I've ever heard described as a fun experience, MoonWitch. |
| 23:44.01 | MoonWitch | not really fun no, it actually *is* painful from what I've heard |
| 23:44.34 | alestane | Especially if you fall into the "fuller-figured" category. |
| 23:44.46 | MoonWitch | as I do ... |
| 23:44.57 | MoonWitch | well lemme rephraze |
| 23:45.05 | MoonWitch | or just completely walk that remark back |
| 23:45.31 | alestane | This is generally one of the tamer IRC channels, but comments like that are a good thing to be careful about making on the internet, yes. |
| 23:45.54 | MoonWitch | it's one of these moments where I really need to learn to think before typing |
| 23:45.56 | Fisker | hey alestane |
| 23:46.06 | Fisker | what do you think about stealing peoples ideas but not crediting them? |
| 23:46.21 | alestane | Does that need debate? |
| 23:46.21 | Lunessa | Fisker, you looking for absolution? |
| 23:46.29 | NightHawkTheSane | MoonWitch: thinking is massively overrated |
| 23:46.39 | Fisker | naw alestane :3 |
| 23:46.46 | MoonWitch | NightHawkTheSane, I dont do enough of it |
| 23:46.51 | Fisker | unless you think it's good |
| 23:47.06 | Lunessa | NHTS - I'm dying here. That was ... well timed. |
| 23:47.07 | Fisker | then i raged |
| 23:47.08 | alestane | Not usually something I approve of, know. |
| 23:47.09 | NightHawkTheSane | is it just me, or is fisker running out of material? |
| 23:47.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: :) |
| 23:47.42 | Cide | pretty sure repeating the same thing over and over also constitutes trolling |
| 23:49.18 | Fisker | im not trolling! Cide |
| 23:49.22 | Fisker | I'm Fisker you see? |
| 23:49.27 | Cide | yes I do |
| 23:51.08 | Amarande | alestane: being smacked, squished, or flattened there forcibly is often a much enjoyed part of kink, though ;) |
| 23:51.08 | alestane | And I won't deny that. |
| 23:51.09 | alestane | But so is urethra dilation in some circles. |
| 23:51.23 | MoonWitch | Ok, logging chat now :P |
| 23:51.40 | NightHawkTheSane | pfft. half teh people here are always logging chat, including purl :P |
| 23:51.42 | Lunessa | alestane: *wince* |
| 23:51.56 | Amarande | Night: heh yeah, I always turn logging on by default in mIRC when I install it |
| 23:52.05 | MoonWitch | I know, but some chats I like to read again for giggles |
| 23:52.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: hey, different strokes, you know? One man's unfathomable pain... ;) |
| 23:52.35 | MoonWitch | I'm using Ychat at the moment |
| 23:52.47 | MoonWitch | the ' beep is annoying me tho |
| 23:53.23 | alestane | Lunessa: I saw a set of probes being displayed at a Fetish Fair Flea one year a while ago, stainless steel, VERY smooth, tapered ends, about five inches long, and while I was pondering what they were for, the man behind the table said that was what. |
| 23:53.32 | Lunessa | NHTS: Your private life is your business. If you want someone to drill a hole in your skull while you snort coke and sing the national anthem while diddling a cat with a hammer --- I don't want to know. |
| 23:53.49 | alestane | They went up to about three-quarters of an inch. |
| 23:53.56 | Amarande | Lunessa: sadly, I wouldn't be surprised if this is a only somewhat infrequent consequence of snorting coke |
| 23:54.01 | Amarande | from what I hear of what people do when they get high :| |
| 23:54.05 | Amarande | however |
| 23:54.08 | Amarande | SNR, y'know? |
| 23:54.10 | alestane | Graduated in thicker and thicker diameters. |
| 23:54.13 | Lunessa | alestane: *nod* |
| 23:54.13 | Amarande | we're drifting. :) |
| 23:54.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: eh, thats not exactly my cup of tea, i'm just pretty tolerant of other people's kinks. :) |
| 23:55.06 | Lunessa | NHTS: Me too, as long as you know, I'm not exposed unless I want to be. |
| 23:55.25 | NightHawkTheSane | true. but there's a certain fun in talking about it and seeing who squirms :P |
| 23:55.30 | Amarande | I should, however, consider investing in some leather when I go to D*Con this year, though |
| 23:55.49 | Lunessa | NHTS: Don't blow my cover, dude! |
| 23:55.53 | MoonWitch | liquid latex |
| 23:55.58 | MoonWitch | it always fits like a glove |
| 23:56.19 | alestane | Sort of automatically. |
| 23:56.22 | Amarande | despite it being nominally a "sci fi and fantasy" convention, Dragon Con has at least a couple of excellent leather vendors |
| 23:56.35 | MoonWitch | indeed - its also easy to put on .. just pour it |
| 23:56.44 | Lunessa | Amarande: Dragon*Con is as much about kin as anything else. |
| 23:56.56 | Amarande | Lunessa: yeah, I know ;) |
| 23:56.58 | Lunessa | er, kink |
| 23:57.12 | NightHawkTheSane | most geek cons have a lot of bleed |
| 23:57.13 | alestane | Just that the feel of latex always makes my skin crawl...being covered in it would probably leave me catatonic, and not in a good way. |
| 23:57.15 | Amarande | however, there are those who would first think D*Con is a bunch of bespectacled, pocket protector sporting nerds talking Trek LOL |
| 23:57.26 | Jerub | alestane: i'm strangely aroused. |
| 23:57.33 | NightHawkTheSane | i wouldn't be surprised if that occurs in other fan con types either |
| 23:57.37 | MoonWitch | god I love this convo |
| 23:57.49 | NightHawkTheSane | hell, the utilikilt guys were at Anime Central this year |
| 23:58.03 | NightHawkTheSane | along with a few leather vendors, corset vendors, steampunk outfit vendors |
| 23:58.17 | NightHawkTheSane | (that last one kinda suprised me a bit, actually) |
| 23:58.23 | MoonWitch | I gotta start going to conventions (if only I were from the US) |
| 23:58.29 | Lunessa | I would totally go to Steampunk events. |
| 23:58.30 | alestane | Weren't you supposed to go to sleep, MoonWitch? |
| 23:58.32 | MoonWitch | Cairenn? Know any decent hotels? |
| 23:58.42 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: there actually is a steampunk con out here ;) |
| 23:58.43 | MoonWitch | Yes, I gotta shower first alestane |
| 23:58.44 | Cairenn | MoonWitch: for what? |
| 23:58.56 | Lunessa | NHTS: You're west coast, da? |
| 23:58.58 | MoonWitch | Cairenn, to go to a convention at one point in my life |
| 23:58.59 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: yeah, seattle |
| 23:59.03 | Amarande | Night: utilikilts look awesome ... as do the sandals they were selling at con last year |
| 23:59.04 | Cairenn | MoonWitch: lol |
| 23:59.18 | Lunessa | Let me know when a good one is rolling around. |
| 23:59.20 | Amarande | if it wasn't for the fact that usually I've blown my swag budget by the time I get to that vendor ... :S |
| 23:59.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: http://www.steamcon.org/ thats the only one i -know- of, i've not been there, though |
| 23:59.33 | MoonWitch | I wanna hear Amanda Tapping and Kate Mulgrew talk .. preferably at the same con |
| 23:59.36 | Cairenn | MoonWitch: "suggest some random hotel in some random city for some random convention at some random time in the future ...." |
| 23:59.37 | Cairenn | lol |
| 23:59.56 | MoonWitch | Cairenn, see? I knew you'd understand me! |
