| 00:07.15 | ZorbaBeta | yay new game complete :D http://www.mandible.net/2010/05/21/k0r/ |
| 00:09.20 | Lopeppeppy | Oh yeah? Want me to crash it? |
| 00:09.21 | Lopeppeppy | :P |
| 00:10.45 | ZorbaBeta | go for it! ^^ |
| 00:10.48 | Thunder_Child | i found a web comic of almost nothing but puns....i think i'm in hell |
| 00:11.08 | ZorbaBeta | you *shouldn't* be able to crash it anymore |
| 00:11.29 | Arrowmaster | ZorbaBeta: i bet i can |
| 00:11.52 | Thunder_Child | ZorbaBeta: first thing is the windows installer end the install path with a . |
| 00:12.10 | Thunder_Child | can make problems |
| 00:12.39 | ZorbaBeta | arrow, yes, I imagine you can ;) |
| 00:12.46 | ZorbaBeta | thunder, yeah, I saw that but it seemed to work fine |
| 00:12.50 | ZorbaBeta | so I decided to just not mess with it |
| 00:12.59 | tem | ZorbaBeta, I saw you on reddit the other day |
| 00:13.32 | ZorbaBeta | tem, what section? i'm sorta all over the place |
| 00:13.41 | tem | I... don't remember |
| 00:13.51 | ZorbaBeta | haha, fair enough :D |
| 00:13.52 | tem | it was probably gaming |
| 00:14.00 | tem | er |
| 00:14.03 | tem | I think it was programming |
| 00:14.08 | ZorbaBeta | I don't actually hang out in /gaming at all, but I am in /indiegaming /gamedev and /programming |
| 00:14.08 | Arrowmaster | i think i have him marked as a friend on slashdot so if i ever actually read the comments his stand out |
| 00:14.15 | ZorbaBeta | I find /gaming is too general |
| 00:14.28 | tem | oh |
| 00:14.33 | tem | it was the post about starting in the middle |
| 00:15.01 | tem | my response to that was "Wait, everyone doesn't do this already and then get bored setting up the boilerplate crap that you do on every project so it just dies in the corner" |
| 00:17.42 | Adys | Anyone owns a mobile authenticator? |
| 00:18.14 | airtonix | ask that guy with the the thing |
| 00:18.19 | airtonix | the white thing |
| 00:18.41 | tem | Adys, you meant the iphone app or the keychain dongle? |
| 00:18.44 | tem | mean* |
| 00:18.49 | Adys | iphone app |
| 00:18.54 | Adys | or mobile app whatever |
| 00:18.56 | Arrowmaster | ZorbaBeta: yup i did crash it again, that same assertion error |
| 00:19.05 | Iriel | I use the android one |
| 00:19.06 | tem | there's an andoid version too iirc |
| 00:19.09 | Adys | i have to know: is it always 8 digits? does it ever begin by 0? |
| 00:19.09 | Iriel | I used the key fob before that |
| 00:19.33 | Iriel | it's always the same length (though the fob length is different than the phone one) |
| 00:19.33 | tem | the fact that it's 8 digits is the primary reason I still use the key fob |
| 00:19.40 | Iriel | I think it can begin with 0 |
| 00:19.47 | Iriel | Yes |
| 00:19.49 | Iriel | Mine does, right now |
| 00:19.54 | Adys | ah |
| 00:19.55 | Adys | thanks |
| 00:19.55 | tem | I'm spoiled to my 6 digit key |
| 00:20.15 | airtonix | tell us more about your key |
| 00:20.32 | ZorbaBeta | arrow, yeah, I didn't change anything on that |
| 00:20.34 | foxlit | airtonix: okay. It ended in 42 |
| 00:20.49 | airtonix | notes this down |
| 00:21.10 | airtonix | soon i will have a valid immigrant workers pass |
| 00:21.13 | Arrowmaster | ZorbaBeta: btw i am using the closed source nvidia drivers |
| 00:21.19 | Fisker | slaps Arrowmaster around a bit with a large trout |
| 00:21.37 | Arrowmaster | but still the 190 series and not the 195 series |
| 00:21.44 | airtonix | why not? |
| 00:21.54 | Arrowmaster | because i would have to restart X to upgrade |
| 00:22.08 | airtonix | how long till last time ? |
| 00:22.47 | Arrowmaster | lets see |
| 00:23.03 | Arrowmaster | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:23.06 | Arrowmaster | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:23.09 | Arrowmaster | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:23.13 | Arrowmaster | -> 3 29 days, 00:45:44 | Linux 2.6.32-3-amd64 Thu Apr 22 19:36:36 2010 |
| 00:23.16 | airtonix | ~spam |
| 00:23.17 | purl | i guess spam is a preferred environment. SPAM; Shut up, You damn Vikings! SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM, or to destroy it, try spamassassin (spamd+spamc) and razor. |
| 00:23.58 | Arrowmaster | damn kernel upgrades needing a reboot |
| 00:24.00 | Fisker | slaps airtonix around a bit with a large trout |
| 00:24.20 | airtonix | think you can set it up so that kernel upgrades dont need a reboot now |
| 00:24.53 | Arrowmaster | thats only for minor patches |
| 00:26.22 | Antiarc | eeee |
| 00:26.23 | Arrowmaster | you cant use ksplice to go from 2.6.32 to 2.6.33, but you can use it when something has been patched by your distro and they release a new build of it |
| 00:26.28 | Antiarc | This is getting really fun now that I have some real data |
| 00:26.35 | Arrowmaster | but debian doesnt use ksplice, just ubuntu afaik |
| 00:26.39 | Antiarc | I'm gonna be able to do amazing things with this market data. |
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| 00:28.39 | airtonix | Antiarc, give us an example |
| 00:28.57 | Antiarc | okay, so say |
| 00:29.05 | Antiarc | I am going to do something with cardinal rubies |
| 00:29.09 | airtonix | wait i need popcorn |
| 00:29.18 | Thunder_Child | isnt it amazing how much fun he is having with fake money....why dont you do this on wall street or something? |
| 00:29.18 | airtonix | ok go on |
| 00:29.37 | Antiarc | Because people already do this on wall street and they have more money and fewer ethics than I do |
| 00:29.39 | Antiarc | http://wowbench.com/charts/top_sellers?q=cardinal+ruby |
| 00:29.46 | Antiarc | So I check what's moving, and what's profitable |
| 00:30.04 | Antiarc | That data seems to indicate that I'd be best off selling Delicates |
| 00:30.21 | Antiarc | So I can go over to http://wowbench.com/charts/item?q=Delicate+Cardinal+Ruby and see what price and volume are like right now |
| 00:30.24 | Antiarc | If it's down significantly, I wait |
| 00:30.30 | Antiarc | If it's up significantly, I get in right now |
| 00:30.51 | Antiarc | It's been pretty stable over the past 24 hours, so I could likely enter that market and sell a number just below market relatively quickly |
| 00:30.53 | Antiarc | Instant profit. |
| 00:31.15 | airtonix | so do you have a number of alts forming a warehouse ? |
| 00:31.39 | Antiarc | Nope! |
| 00:31.42 | Antiarc | Though maybe I should |
| 00:31.52 | Antiarc | I have data on who is listing and selling, too |
| 00:32.01 | Antiarc | So I could see when my competition tends to do their posting/relisting |
| 00:32.04 | Antiarc | And plan to sell around that |
| 00:32.30 | airtonix | you should also get into the practice of posting stuff via character names like "ToplessJenny" |
| 00:32.56 | airtonix | and "PneumaticBetheny" |
| 00:33.09 | airtonix | or "BendyBendy" |
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| 00:38.11 | airtonix | i need to turn this pringles can into a waveguide antenna |
| 00:45.03 | Adys | Anyone with an iphone and time to waste? |
| 00:45.24 | airtonix | dont those too go together ? |
| 00:47.55 | Fisker | hello Antiarc |
| 00:48.02 | Fisker | i wish Adys |
| 00:48.13 | airtonix | macfag |
| 00:48.18 | Antiarc | hi Fisker |
| 00:48.23 | Tuller | hrm, i wonder if someone can add a mcrun compression lib |
| 00:48.43 | Fisker | airtonix i only wished to use it for terms of wasting it |
| 00:50.39 | Fisker | why can't we ever have nice things Antiarc ? |
| 00:50.58 | Antiarc | because I break them |
| 00:51.11 | Fisker | oh yeah did Blizzard respond to you? |
| 00:51.23 | Antiarc | About what? |
| 00:51.31 | Fisker | about hudmap |
| 00:51.36 | tem | I think the AVR post is a pretty clear response |
| 00:51.51 | Antiarc | I got a "We're not saying no" |
| 00:51.53 | tem | " If we find that the AVR mod (or any mod attempting to replicate its functions) are usable after 3.3.5 we will take further, more drastic steps." |
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| 00:51.57 | Guest92589 | hello |
| 00:52.02 | Antiarc | Which is why I contacted Blizzard directly, tem :P |
| 00:52.03 | Fisker | yeah tem |
| 00:52.07 | tem | ah |
| 00:52.12 | airtonix | your not allowed to provide 2d texturs that provide information about positional data if its not the minimap ? |
| 00:52.12 | Fisker | But Hudmap isn't doing anything AVR is |
| 00:52.16 | DWSR | tem: Link? |
| 00:52.27 | tem | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25002150557&sid=1 |
| 00:52.43 | Fisker | Anyway commit to it Antiarc |
| 00:52.51 | Fisker | the following months will be delicious |
| 00:53.12 | Fisker | "We broke AVR and all we got was this damn shitstorm on the forums :(" |
| 00:54.21 | Guest92589 | i am trying to learn how to write a spell cooldown mod similar to what the one at DBM site. spelltimers. however, I can not even get it work. Any idea how to work it? i put in blood fury with spell id 23230 and it did nothing. ditto for aimed shot 19434 |
| 00:55.10 | tem | oh boy, Guest92589 |
| 00:55.18 | Lopeppeppy | Guest92589, you'll probably have to put your code up in the pastey, listed in the channel topic. |
| 00:55.20 | tem | it sounds like you're so over your head right now |
| 00:55.34 | airtonix | yeah just buy an iphone |
| 00:55.35 | tem | not to be rude, but I think you need to start somewhere basic |
| 00:55.45 | tem | and copying code from DBM isn't basic |
| 00:55.54 | Adys | ZorbaBeta: ping |
| 00:56.06 | Adys | ZorbaBeta: you ever programmed on the iphone? |
| 00:56.24 | Guest92589 | well now, i am just tyring to get the shipped one working as is. |
| 00:56.36 | Guest92589 | not writing code, just tyring to use it. |
| 00:56.47 | DWSR | Guest92589: Sounds very much like you're trying to write code to me. |
| 00:57.12 | DWSR | tem: I think that just disabling the camera information during combat would be the easiest approach. |
| 00:57.23 | DWSR | Or disabling that + co-ordinate information. |
| 00:57.24 | Guest92589 | that will be later. now i am just tyring to get the code to work as installed before I look at the code. |
| 00:57.54 | ZorbaBeta | adys, I did some, but I ended up dumping it when the recent iphone policy changes went into place |
| 00:58.09 | Adys | ZorbaBeta: you ever touched the keychain? |
| 00:58.13 | Guest92589 | it has an option page where you add spellids and the cooldown info. |
| 00:58.21 | tem | I'm not familliar with the addon, Guest92589, so unfortunately I can't be of much help |
| 00:58.28 | Guest92589 | i figured it would display something. |
| 00:58.40 | ZorbaBeta | only enough to get a test program working on actual hardware |
| 00:58.43 | tem | I suspect that you're either doing something wrong or the addon doesn't do what you think it does |
| 00:58.48 | airtonix | Fisker, do you worship the god of luck ? |
| 00:58.51 | Adys | ZorbaBeta: the keychain? |
| 00:58.59 | ZorbaBeta | the OSX keychain |
| 00:59.01 | Guest92589 | yah maybe |
| 00:59.03 | ZorbaBeta | I didn't touch the iPhone keychain at all |
| 00:59.14 | Adys | hmm |
| 01:00.31 | Fisker | i do not airtonix |
| 01:00.31 | Fisker | why? |
| 01:01.14 | airtonix | you would have nice things if you did |
| 01:01.44 | Fisker | and had i said yes then you would've told me i would have nice things if i didn't |
| 01:01.52 | airtonix | no |
| 01:02.01 | Fisker | oh but you would |
| 01:02.06 | airtonix | i would say that your last sacrifice was laking |
| 01:02.08 | Fisker | infact i just went back in time and did it |
| 01:02.14 | DWSR | tem: I think that it's pretty hilarious that people are arguing that AVR(E) is the same as BW/DBM/DXE. |
| 01:02.37 | DWSR | tem: AVR(E) DRAWS SHIT ON THE GROUND for Malleable Goo. |
| 01:02.37 | airtonix | you need to bath yourself in the fresh blood of a male bull |
| 01:02.43 | Lopeppeppy | People with their QQ hats on will say anything that comes to mind to try to get Daddy to change their mind. |
| 01:03.12 | airtonix | is this hat somethign tailors can make ? |
| 01:03.19 | Fisker | DWSR i think it's pretty hilarious that people are arguing that it isn't |
| 01:03.27 | tem | DWSR, I will miss the HELL out of AVRE for 3 things: Range indicators for Princes, Disease Indicators for Putricide and LK |
| 01:03.31 | Fisker | Well technically it isn't because some of these addons aren't well enough developed yet |
| 01:03.36 | Fisker | But DXE is pretty far along that |
| 01:04.00 | tem | oh, and if I ever dps on Sindragosa, I would be completely unable to get my iceblock into the correct place without the AVR scene |
| 01:04.12 | Fisker | smokeflares tem |
| 01:04.14 | Fisker | learn them |
| 01:04.15 | tem | thankfully I'm a tank so she doesn't pick me for that ever |
| 01:04.15 | Fisker | love them |
| 01:04.16 | DWSR | tem: I just had it because I decided that if I wasn't going to be challenged in raiding, I should completely remove all challenge. |
| 01:04.25 | Fisker | lol |
| 01:04.29 | tem | Fisker, we use smoke flares, but we have a really silly order for the blocks |
| 01:04.29 | DWSR | tem: Yeah, I tank as well. |
| 01:04.30 | DWSR | BTW. |
| 01:04.39 | tem | (every mark has a specific spot) |
| 01:04.50 | DWSR | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#deathknight-0000000000000000000000000000320230510002000000000000000002302323300202122233101203103151 <--- Shadowed: This needs to be counted as a tank spec. I tanked ICC10 HM Rotface with it last night. |
| 01:04.51 | tem | and I can never remember it |
| 01:04.56 | Fisker | i think it's even funnier when people think it removes all challenge, when infact, all it does is present a situation in a more contextually understanding way that should've been in the base UI by now |
| 01:04.57 | airtonix | your guild leader has downs |
| 01:05.01 | Shadowed | Not a tank spec |
| 01:05.09 | DWSR | Shadowed: I know, I'm just lulzing. |
| 01:05.13 | tem | airtonix, yes, he does. |
| 01:05.17 | tem | I fucking hate my guild leader |
| 01:05.23 | tem | but we get things done |
| 01:05.25 | tem | so shrug |
| 01:05.30 | DWSR | Fisker: Yeah, someone argued that the visual cues should be a bit stronger. I have to agree. |
| 01:05.40 | Fisker | If you want to argue about an addon that actually removes challenge, then AVR isn't the culprit here |
| 01:05.48 | Fisker | Two words: Massive Crash |
| 01:06.04 | DWSR | ? |
| 01:06.05 | Lopeppeppy | We could argue until we turned into turnips, that's not changing a thing. |
| 01:06.06 | airtonix | fuuuu |
| 01:06.08 | Fisker | Do bossmods show you the information like AVR would? No it shows an arrow pointing you in which way to run |
| 01:06.21 | Fisker | AVR shows information, it doesn't detract the act of acting on said information |
| 01:06.23 | DWSR | Oh, doesn't DXE do that? |
| 01:06.28 | Fisker | it does |
| 01:06.37 | Arrowmaster | not all boss mods will show you an arrow pointing where to run |
| 01:06.37 | Fisker | and i would expect DBM and BW to do the same by now |
| 01:06.41 | Fisker | atleast DBM |
| 01:06.43 | Fisker | maybe not BW |
| 01:06.52 | Arrowmaster | i dont think BW would EVER do that |
| 01:06.53 | DWSR | Fisker: No, they don't. |
| 01:06.59 | DWSR | DBM doesn't either. |
| 01:07.01 | DWSR | Unless there's a plugin. |
| 01:07.07 | Fisker | :O! |
| 01:07.12 | Fisker | either way DXE does |
| 01:07.13 | DWSR | Frankly, they should just remove the ability to get camera information and co-ordinates in combat. |
| 01:07.20 | DWSR | There, problem solved. |
| 01:07.20 | airtonix | ^ |
| 01:07.27 | Arrowmaster | since BigWigs specifically avoids any strategy information |
| 01:07.27 | Lopeppeppy | Maybe that's what they are doing. |
| 01:07.34 | Fisker | and if they were so inclined they could remove every challenge in any encounter every made by simply calculating what to do for everyone in the raid |
| 01:07.40 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: I doubt it, but I'll wait and see. |
| 01:07.47 | Fisker | AVR: Show a ring about defile |
| 01:07.50 | Lopeppeppy | We'll see soon enough. |
| 01:07.53 | Arrowmaster | DWSR: they removed the ability to get the camrea info |
| 01:07.59 | Fisker | Future bossmods: Show 24 players to go west, show the defiled player to go east |
| 01:08.00 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: They'll most likely just remove the ability to get camera info. |
| 01:08.13 | Arrowmaster | DWSR: its already known thats exactly what they did |
| 01:08.20 | DWSR | Ah, there you go |
| 01:08.26 | Arrowmaster | we knew about this before they even made that blue post |
| 01:08.31 | Lopeppeppy | They said they'd start light, so we'll see what they do, and how far they have to go past that in order to block what they don't want. |
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| 01:09.01 | Fisker | Bosses are made with addons in mind and i'm pretty sure ICC's bosses only exist due to the added functionality of range addons |
| 01:09.13 | Fisker | well in the way that they do anyway |
| 01:09.37 | airtonix | no |
| 01:10.17 | DWSR | I think the ring range check was so useful.\ |
| 01:10.25 | DWSR | e.g. Shock Vortex for Princes. |
| 01:10.27 | airtonix | i think you are too generous in your sumissation |
| 01:10.46 | Fisker | i actually prefer range checks on princes there |
| 01:11.25 | Fisker | They seem to be a bit too visually distracting there |
| 01:11.47 | Fisker | Which of course is no problem since apparently no higher brain functions are required for AVR |
| 01:11.48 | Fisker | HIYOOOOOOO |
| 01:12.23 | DWSR | lol |
| 01:12.41 | Gintaro | Boondock Saints II! !!!! ! |
| 01:12.51 | Fisker | Anyway as i say, they should simply implement it themselves |
| 01:12.58 | airtonix | http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw37815.jpg |
| 01:13.02 | DWSR | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=25002150557&sid=1&pageNo=5 <-- Post by Tinwhisker |
| 01:13.05 | Arrowmaster | Gintaro: you havent seen it yet? |
| 01:13.08 | Gintaro | Nope |
| 01:13.10 | airtonix | does avr draw the nice white lines ? |
| 01:13.12 | Thunder_Child | Gintaro: was indeed enjoyable |
| 01:13.12 | Gintaro | Downloading it now |
| 01:13.14 | DWSR | airtonix: yes. |
| 01:13.19 | DWSR | More accurately, you can draw them via AVR. |
| 01:13.24 | airtonix | thats pro |
| 01:13.38 | Gintaro | airtonix, where's the penis? |
| 01:13.42 | Fisker | not nessecarily as a UI feature (though the whole draw tactics on the map thing is nice) but for example on Festergut HC the addons can't detect mallable goo, but it shows in the world(albeit pretty poorly because of the particle density) where it lands |
| 01:13.44 | airtonix | in your mouth |
| 01:14.27 | airtonix | DWSR, who can draw the scribbles ? only raid leaders ? |
| 01:14.32 | Fisker | what is susanexpress? :P |
| 01:14.40 | DWSR | Anyone. |
| 01:14.44 | DWSR | You have to share a "scene" |
| 01:14.49 | airtonix | DWSR, wee clusterfuck lol |
| 01:14.52 | Fisker | oh |
| 01:14.54 | Fisker | goldsite |
| 01:14.54 | airtonix | oh right |
| 01:15.02 | DWSR | airtonix: No, you have to accept the share. |
| 01:15.05 | Fisker | so Antiarc |
| 01:15.11 | Fisker | your project will continue as planned |
| 01:15.42 | Gintaro | need faster downloads! |
| 01:15.44 | Fisker | *does that thingy with the shotgun shaking that reloads it for maximum speed and efficiency* |
| 01:15.51 | Gintaro | Only 1mb/s! |
| 01:18.33 | DWSR | Anyway. |
| 01:18.35 | Adys | pulls Kologarn |
| 01:18.39 | airtonix | yeah so |
| 01:18.47 | DWSR | I think it's a good idea to break AVRE, but AVR itself was supremely useful/. |
| 01:18.53 | Fisker | uses killing spree before it was fixed |
| 01:19.09 | airtonix | someone will create a scriblle sharing addon again |
| 01:19.14 | Fisker | disagree'd |
| 01:19.38 | airtonix | Fisker, your mum is disapoint |
| 01:20.04 | DWSR | airtonix: ArtPad @ WoWI. |
| 01:20.14 | airtonix | there! see didnt take long |
| 01:20.26 | DWSR | the problem is that that's a Whiteboard. AVR allows you to place the circles and stuff on the game interface and move around and see it. |
| 01:20.44 | DWSR | The planning part is invaluable. The encounter part is fucking broken and I'm glad they're removing it, even though I'll be sad on Princes. |
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| 01:21.31 | DWSR | The Malleable Goo thing on 25m was fucking rediculous. |
| 01:21.42 | DWSR | the whole ground was like BLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 01:23.03 | airtonix | jooo |
| 01:23.39 | Fisker | Ackis you here? |
| 01:23.54 | Arrowmaster | the camera angles for the predefined saved positions can still be known and you can use AVR for planning |
| 01:23.56 | DWSR | ~addon DXE |
| 01:24.12 | DWSR | !addon DXE |
| 01:24.13 | lua_bot | Found 0 addon results for 'DXE': http://is.gd/cjLGK |
| 01:24.22 | DWSR | What is the full name? |
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| 01:24.29 | DWSR | Deus Vox Encounters? |
| 01:24.33 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 01:24.38 | DWSR | wtf? |
| 01:24.40 | Arrowmaster | @addon dxe |
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| 01:24.42 | DWSR | Why isn't that DVE? |
| 01:24.45 | Fisker | but that's bad Arrowmaster |
| 01:24.48 | airtonix | french |
| 01:24.53 | Arrowmaster | @project dxe |
| 01:24.55 | Repo | Arrowmaster: No project found that matches 'dxe' |
| 01:25.02 | DWSR | @project Deus Vox Encounters |
| 01:25.03 | Repo | DWSR: No project found that matches 'deus' |
| 01:25.07 | Fisker | @project Deus-Vox-Encounters |
| 01:25.07 | DWSR | Fuck you Repo. |
| 01:25.08 | Repo | Fisker: http://www.wowace.com/addons/deus-vox-encounters/. Deus Vox Encounters. Game: WoW. kollektiv (Manager/Author), Shefki (Author), Fearendon (Translator), Pettigrow (Translator). Updated: 18 days ago. Tickets: 22/140 |
| 01:25.11 | Fisker | fuck you DWSR |
| 01:25.11 | DWSR | Thank you |
| 01:25.19 | DWSR | Oh. |
| 01:26.51 | airtonix | back to your opium pipe fisker |
| 01:27.59 | Fisker | i don't need to |
| 01:28.00 | Mr_Rabies | is there an "is this class" thing for macros? |
| 01:28.01 | DWSR | http://www.tankspot.com/showthread.php?63982-Icecrown-Lady-Deathwhisper-Hard <-- What's the addon that's showing the icons? Is that PAC? |
| 01:28.02 | Fisker | but i just broke steam i think |
| 01:28.07 | airtonix | lawl |
| 01:28.15 | DWSR | Mr_Rabies: No? |
| 01:28.18 | airtonix | you're not using a mac by any chance ? |
| 01:28.30 | Mr_Rabies | like, can i make one macro for all my classes to do a hearthstone/and/or their classes' teleport thing |
| 01:28.57 | DWSR | Mr_Rabies: No. |
| 01:29.08 | Legorol | you can try a macro where you list every class-specific /cast first, and /cast Hearthstone last |
| 01:29.10 | Mr_Rabies | i.e. use the same macro for hearth/teleport moonglade/ebon hold/astral recall etc? |
| 01:29.16 | DWSR | no. |
| 01:29.24 | Legorol | try what i suggested |
| 01:29.31 | DWSR | Unless you do above. |
| 01:29.35 | DWSR | But that might not work. |
| 01:29.36 | Mr_Rabies | alright you sound pretty insisent there DWSR |
| 01:29.43 | airtonix | @project select |
| 01:29.44 | Repo | airtonix: No project found that matches 'select' |
| 01:29.47 | Legorol | might not work, but worth a try |
| 01:29.51 | Mr_Rabies | what about addons, they can check stuff like that right? |
| 01:29.51 | DWSR | airtonix: Select's @ WoWI |
| 01:29.55 | DWSR | Mr_Rabies: Yes. |
| 01:29.59 | DWSR | You should check Select. |
| 01:30.00 | Legorol | out of combat, yes |
| 01:30.11 | DWSR | It does basically what you're thinking of. |
| 01:30.16 | Legorol | if your class changes in combat, then you are out of luck ;) |
| 01:30.18 | DWSR | !addon Select |
| 01:30.20 | lua_bot | Select (v. 1.0) last updated Nov 8 2008</td><td valign=top class=listone style="font-size: 10px;"> (http://is.gd/cjM5R) |
| 01:30.26 | airtonix | DWSR, what was the other thing like select at wowace (but a massice behemoth) ? |
| 01:30.31 | DWSR | No idea. |
| 01:30.48 | airtonix | autobar or something |
| 01:31.08 | Arrowmaster | @describe ihml |
| 01:31.09 | Repo | Arrowmaster: http://www.wowace.com/addons/ihml/. IHML - I Have Macro Lol!. Switch macro depending on zones or BigWigs boss modules |
| 01:31.31 | airtonix | wowace auto bar |
| 01:31.34 | airtonix | ... |
| 01:32.08 | airtonix | @project autobar |
| 01:32.09 | Repo | airtonix: http://war.curseforge.com/addons/autobar/. Autobar. Game: WAR. Felyza (Manager/Author). Updated: 554 days ago. Tickets: 6/7 |
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| 01:32.35 | Arrowmaster | @project wow/autobar |
| 01:32.48 | Repo | Arrowmaster: No project found that matches 'wow/autobar' |
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| 01:33.44 | Mileadus | whats the syntax for running another lua file from the one currently running? (if that makes any sense) |
| 01:34.55 | airtonix | you need to have it referenced in your toc file |
| 01:35.42 | Mr_Rabies | really? derp |
| 01:36.05 | DWSR | http://www.tankspot.com/showthread.php?63982-Icecrown-Lady-Deathwhisper-Hard <-- What's the addon that's showing the icons? Is that PAC? |
| 01:36.19 | Mr_Rabies | trying to get back into wow and i lost like ALL of my macros and stuff, last played when they were clientside only |
| 01:36.46 | airtonix | lots of icons there |
| 01:37.14 | Wobin | man.. what -is- that accent? |
| 01:38.59 | Wobin | DWSR, what icons are you talking about? |
| 01:40.55 | Wobin | it's some weird combination of generic asian, american, with some occasional australian |
| 01:41.33 | DWSR | Wobin: No, the icons for her skills. |
| 01:41.43 | DWSR | In the middle, just underneath her character. |
| 01:41.48 | DWSR | Looks like icons for procs and stuff. |
| 01:42.05 | DWSR | But they are /spell/ icons. |
| 01:42.15 | Wobin | DWSR, ah |
| 01:42.20 | airtonix | poweraura ? |
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| 01:42.24 | Wobin | It could be sexycooldowns without the bar |
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| 01:42.37 | Wobin | actually no |
| 01:42.39 | Wobin | they're not moving |
| 01:42.48 | Wobin | but I see where you mean |
| 01:43.03 | Wobin | they're the icons showing that a spell is on cooldown |
| 01:43.11 | Wobin | like PoM or CoH |
| 01:43.19 | Lopeppeppy | There are several addons that do that, IIRC... Ghost Pulse? |
| 01:43.24 | Gintaro | Isn't it just a poweraura then? |
| 01:43.29 | Lopeppeppy | Is my brain working right on that? |
| 01:43.46 | DWSR | I thought it might be PAC. |
| 01:43.51 | DWSR | I just didn't know it could do that. |
| 01:44.01 | airtonix | thats not poweraura |
| 01:44.05 | airtonix | or sexybar |
| 01:44.54 | Gintaro | It's just poweraura configured to use the spell icon |
| 01:45.04 | Gintaro | Or I'm looking at the wrong part of the screen |
| 01:45.37 | airtonix | i used to use something like CooldownBar |
| 01:46.23 | DWSR | Gintaro: Center, just below the character. |
| 01:46.31 | DWSR | I know that she /is/ using PAC. |
| 01:46.41 | DWSR | Anyone here use DXE? |
| 01:46.46 | Wobin | aha |
| 01:46.52 | Wobin | I'm glad I wasn't the only one to ask |
| 01:46.52 | Wobin | http://www.tankspot.com/entry.php?2679-Since-it-seems-to-be-a-popular-question... |
| 01:47.08 | DWSR | WIN! |
| 01:47.13 | DWSR | I haven't seen her face though |
| 01:47.22 | DWSR | If she's good looking and close by, I'd be down. |
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| 01:48.09 | Wobin | what's PAC? |
| 01:48.25 | DWSR | Power Auras Class. |
| 01:48.29 | Wobin | actually, it -could- be PA if it can use spell icons |
| 01:48.30 | DWSR | Classic* |
| 01:48.33 | Wobin | oh |
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| 01:48.36 | Wobin | yes |
| 01:48.48 | Wobin | I just call it powa =P |
| 01:49.18 | Gintaro | only 2 hours before boondock saints! |
| 01:49.26 | Gintaro | time for bed |
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| 01:51.07 | Wobin | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/funny-pictures-cat-loled.jpg |
| 01:51.44 | airtonix | we are not amused |
| 01:54.48 | Lopeppeppy | I am needing sleepy time. Goodnight, normal people. Goodnight, geeky people. Goodnight, everyone else. |
| 01:55.07 | DWSR | HEY! |
| 01:55.10 | DWSR | You forgot me! |
| 01:55.16 | Lopeppeppy | "everyone else" |
| 01:55.21 | DWSR | I am not "everyone else". |
| 01:55.36 | DWSR | :P |
| 01:55.38 | DWSR | It's k. |
| 01:55.41 | DWSR | I know you meant well. |
| 01:55.43 | DWSR | NIGHTY NIGHT! |
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| 01:55.58 | Lopeppeppy | Then you languish alone, forgotten, forlorn, and otherwise dismayed, until I next return to brighten your day. |
| 01:56.00 | Lopeppeppy | Etc. |
| 01:56.01 | Lopeppeppy | Night! |
| 01:56.08 | airtonix | cursed! |
| 01:57.22 | Shirik | why the FUCK is Rihanna making a book |
| 01:57.31 | airtonix | for you |
| 01:57.37 | Cide | haha, she is? wow |
| 01:57.39 | Wobin | Just you |
| 01:57.46 | Shirik | She is so full of herself |
| 01:57.52 | airtonix | " a poem for my love " |
| 01:57.53 | Cide | interesting |
| 01:58.04 | Cide | when connecting to bnet |
| 01:58.12 | Cide | in sc2 |
| 01:58.17 | Wobin | is she calling it "Cinderella (ella (ella (ella)))"? |
| 01:58.18 | Cide | there's now a "Play Offline" button |
| 01:58.32 | Cide | I guess for single player when bnet is down |
| 01:58.38 | Shirik | yay |
| 02:00.57 | Cide | they removed identifiers, also |
| 02:01.00 | Cide | strange* |
| 02:04.22 | Wobin | Shirik, It's like Tyra Banks and -her- new book series |
| 02:04.39 | Mr_Rabies | so i have my ui mostly how i like it, now i have to figure out how to manage my inventory that hasn't been touched in 2 years, more or less |
| 02:04.51 | Mr_Rabies | http://i.imgur.com/Uzuo1.jpg |
| 02:05.10 | Wobin | MrPlow =P |
| 02:05.18 | DWSR | Mr_Rabies: lol |
| 02:05.24 | DWSR | Dude, let AI take care of it for you |
| 02:05.30 | Wobin | hey don't knock it, I still have my drakefire amulet |
| 02:05.32 | Mr_Rabies | furthermore, http://i.imgur.com/Uzuo1.jpg |
| 02:05.41 | Mr_Rabies | and also http://i.imgur.com/cWMRt.jpg |
| 02:06.06 | DWSR | Mr_Rabies: Let AI take care of it for you |
| 02:06.09 | DWSR | Just get it to sort your bags. |
| 02:06.14 | Wobin | it's been two years since BC came out? |
| 02:06.15 | Wobin | jesus |
| 02:06.18 | airtonix | lol @ ai |
| 02:06.33 | Wobin | well not 'since' |
| 02:06.36 | Mr_Rabies | not just that, wobin |
| 02:06.42 | Mr_Rabies | since i quit playing tbc |
| 02:06.47 | Wobin | but you know what I mean |
| 02:06.55 | Wobin | it's more of a 'jesus, where has the time gone?' |
| 02:06.59 | Mr_Rabies | i stopped around march 08 i think |
| 02:07.08 | Jerub | omg the wow auctionhouse thing on the web |
| 02:07.09 | Adys | Wish bagnon had a guildbank module |
| 02:07.09 | Mr_Rabies | right around when zul'aman came out |
| 02:07.12 | Jerub | it sucks so hard |
| 02:07.18 | Mr_Rabies | there was a huge lull just before zul'aman |
| 02:07.21 | Mr_Rabies | and i lost interest |
| 02:07.28 | Cide | yay sc2 is back up |
| 02:07.40 | Jerub | I have toons on many realms, and many toons. |
| 02:07.42 | Mr_Rabies | ended up unsubbing when my time ran out on my 6mos sub |
| 02:07.47 | Wobin | Jerub, it seems flexible enough to keep Antiarc amused |
| 02:07.52 | Jerub | i can post auctions from 1 of my horde, and 1 of my alliance toons |
| 02:07.54 | Mr_Rabies | i had played since pretty much launch before then |
| 02:08.02 | Jerub | on two of my 6+ realms |
| 02:08.14 | Mr_Rabies | i have my drakefire amulet too i think |
| 02:08.25 | Wobin | Jerub, isn't that due to only being available on certain servers? |
| 02:08.33 | Mr_Rabies | yup |
| 02:08.33 | Jerub | i mean, it's going to be great for data mining, but crap for everyhitng else. |
| 02:08.35 | Mr_Rabies | still got it |
| 02:08.43 | Mr_Rabies | also have my BWL cloak |
| 02:08.45 | Jerub | Wobin: nope, it got released for all realms today |
| 02:09.09 | Cide | haha |
| 02:09.21 | Cide | 24 mineral fields on the 8 player map |
| 02:09.28 | Mr_Rabies | i should walk through town in my stormrage/onyxia scale cloak |
| 02:09.31 | Mr_Rabies | :D |
| 02:09.38 | Wobin | orly? |
| 02:09.41 | Wobin | hm |
| 02:09.47 | airtonix | noone would notice |
| 02:09.49 | airtonix | or care |
| 02:09.51 | Cide | rofl |
| 02:09.51 | Adys | Mr_Rabies: http://db.mmo-champion.com/adys/nw.jpg |
| 02:09.57 | Wobin | Jerub, through the armory? |
| 02:10.08 | Jerub | Mr_Rabies: Stormrage gear is available at level 80 from ony80 now |
| 02:10.08 | Cide | I created a custom game with just myself in it |
| 02:10.10 | Cide | left it |
| 02:10.13 | Jerub | Wobin: wowarmory.com/auctionhouse/ |
| 02:10.17 | Mr_Rabies | the same stats, jerub? |
| 02:10.19 | Cide | "Achievement earned: I Win!" |
| 02:10.30 | Jerub | Mr_Rabies: nah, it's a new improved version |
| 02:11.13 | Adys | the AH is still not avail in eu |
| 02:11.15 | Adys | ... sigh |
| 02:11.58 | Cide | play on us realms like a man |
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| 02:12.25 | Jerub | Mr_Rabies: my druid who does icc raiding is still wearing the stormrage crown |
| 02:12.30 | Adys | Cide, lately I've been more and more tempted tbh |
| 02:12.33 | Adys | but i cant move my sub |
| 02:12.57 | Mr_Rabies | Jerub: it was my legit healing gear helm through all of TBC |
| 02:13.03 | Mr_Rabies | i never really bothered upgrading it |
| 02:13.12 | Mr_Rabies | because cat is for fite |
| 02:13.22 | Wobin | Jerub, um |
| 02:13.29 | Wobin | I can do it on any character, it seems |
| 02:13.36 | Jerub | Wobin: i can only do it on two :( |
| 02:13.43 | Wobin | just set your primary character |
| 02:14.23 | Jerub | ah, i see |
| 02:14.23 | Wobin | I do like the 'claim all gold' |
| 02:14.26 | Jerub | missed the little '+' |
| 02:15.05 | Wobin | damn |
| 02:15.12 | Wobin | I can't AH directly out of the guildbank |
| 02:15.14 | Wobin | that kinda sucks |
| 02:16.23 | Arrowmaster | i think thats a good thing |
| 02:16.38 | Wobin | well, I'm the guildleader |
| 02:16.44 | Wobin | but yes, I see your point =) |
| 02:16.45 | Arrowmaster | security |
| 02:16.53 | Wobin | and I'm also the only member in the guild |
| 02:17.05 | Arrowmaster | can you use the AH while logged in? |
| 02:17.10 | Wobin | yes? |
| 02:17.15 | Wobin | into the game? |
| 02:17.17 | Wobin | or the site? |
| 02:17.19 | Arrowmaster | game |
| 02:17.28 | Wobin | why couldn't I? |
| 02:18.52 | Jerub | Wobin: i think Arrowmaster's point is that you can't list auctions out of the GB from anything other than your personal inventory |
| 02:19.01 | Wobin | oh |
| 02:19.12 | Jerub | Wobin: and in the AH interface you have the luxury of doing it from your bank or mailbox |
| 02:19.21 | airtonix | can you use the auctionmaster and the guildbank at the same time ? |
| 02:19.25 | Wobin | well the web one you do |
| 02:19.41 | Wobin | I only have the luxury of doing it from my mailbox cause I'm abusing positioning in Stormwind |
| 02:20.02 | airtonix | do tell |
| 02:20.03 | Wobin | airtonix, in game? No, cause of positioning issues |
| 02:20.05 | Arrowmaster | just think, guild leader get keylogged even though he has an authenticator, thief logs into AH directly after GL logs into game, thief finds out how much money GL has and how much money guild bank has, stays logged into AH site, logs into AH in another session with an account already on that server and posts items for those amounts and purchases them from your GL leaders account emptying his account and |
| 02:20.06 | Jerub | okay, blizzard just DOES NOT UNDERSTAND time |
| 02:20.11 | Arrowmaster | the guild bank |
| 02:20.13 | Wobin | Arrowmaster, oh I understand that |
| 02:20.26 | Jerub | "daily transaction limit resets at Sat, 22 May 2010 10:00:00 GMT local time" |
| 02:20.47 | Wobin | rofl |
| 02:20.49 | Jerub | WHAT IS IT BITCH? IS IT GMT? IS IT UTC? IS IT LOCAL TIME? |
| 02:20.52 | Wobin | GMT local time? |
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| 02:20.55 | DWSR | GMT is UTC. |
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| 02:21.00 | Jerub | DWSR: no it's not |
| 02:21.02 | Arrowmaster | GMT is not UTC |
| 02:21.05 | DWSR | Or more accurately, is approximately. |
| 02:21.45 | DWSR | In casual use, when fractions of a second are not important, Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) can be considered equivalent to UTC or UT1. Owing to the ambiguity as to whether UTC or UT1 is meant, GMT is generally avoided in technical contexts.[3] |
| 02:21.48 | Arrowmaster | Jerub: is that message created ingame? from the UI? |
| 02:22.09 | Jerub | Arrowmaster: that message is in the AH web interface when i try to list my 26th auction |
| 02:22.31 | Arrowmaster | probably some javascript formating the time |
| 02:22.37 | Jerub | DWSR: you quote that as if you're attempting to impart information that i don't already know. |
| 02:23.30 | Jerub | can someone else exceed their limit and check? I think they actually mean local time, as i'm at UTC+10 |
| 02:24.17 | Wobin | man |
| 02:24.30 | Wobin | I can't even post auctions |
| 02:24.47 | Wobin | I'll try in chrome |
| 02:24.53 | Jerub | i'm using ff |
| 02:25.50 | Thunder_Child | ipod app ftw |
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| 02:26.09 | Wobin | http://screencast.com/t/ODM1Mzg1MzU |
| 02:26.35 | Wobin | works on chrome |
| 02:27.41 | Wobin | I get Transaction Limit Reached |
| 02:27.48 | airtonix | tv series... who is watching what , do you like it ? |
| 02:28.07 | Wobin | You can perform up to 25 transactions in a single day during the Remote Auction House beta test. The daily transaction limit resets at Sat, 22 May 2010 10:00:00 GMT local time, and it does not affect the in-game Auction House. When the beta test ends, the limit will be increased to 200 transactions per day (with a subscription to World of Warcraft Remote). |
| 02:28.07 | airtonix | are are ou being subjected to it by relatives ? |
| 02:29.35 | Wobin | Jerub, it's currently 2:29:12 am GMT | Saturday, May 22, 2010 |
| 02:29.55 | Wobin | so in 8 hours? |
| 02:31.53 | Mr_Rabies | if there's a search function for comments to addons on wowi i'm totally missing it |
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| 02:32.06 | Mr_Rabies | someone point me in the right direction if it exists please :x |
| 02:32.12 | Wobin | ? |
| 02:32.56 | Mr_Rabies | i'm reading through the comments for bagnon to see if you can search for soulbound items |
| 02:33.12 | Mr_Rabies | but i can't seem to find a search function on the comments tab |
| 02:33.25 | Wobin | maybe try the forum thread for that addon? |
| 02:33.26 | Thunder_Child | ctrl + f :D |
| 02:33.41 | Mr_Rabies | there's like a billion and a half pages, T_C |
| 02:34.08 | Jerub | Mr_Rabies: i've got a functin for it in arkinventory |
| 02:34.10 | Thunder_Child | Mr_Rabies: use google <site:xxx> |
| 02:34.13 | Thunder_Child | etc. |
| 02:37.09 | Jerub | sooo. how soon do i get auctioneer stats for the web interface? |
| 02:37.15 | Jerub | i needs me a bot to handle my auctions |
| 02:37.25 | Antiarc | you mean like http://wowbench.com/charts/item?q=Delicate+Cardinal+Ruby |
| 02:38.03 | Jerub | holy shit |
| 02:38.12 | Wobin | Antiarc, is that across all servers? |
| 02:38.14 | Jerub | check the market spike in the last 12 hours |
| 02:38.18 | Antiarc | Wobin: Just cenarion circle |
| 02:38.23 | Wobin | ah |
| 02:38.25 | Thunder_Child | Antiarc: dont lie, you know you want to go out for ice cream |
| 02:38.34 | Jerub | Antiarc: how do i fund this? can i donate money for up to date market data and autoposting tools? |
| 02:38.36 | Antiarc | Jerub: that data is skewed since I just started collecting |
| 02:38.45 | Antiarc | Jerub: Not yet. Maybe eventually :P |
| 02:38.49 | Antiarc | That data's realtime though |
| 02:38.56 | Antiarc | You're looking at Cenarion Circle's economy in realtime |
| 02:38.59 | Jerub | accross all realms? |
| 02:39.05 | Antiarc | cenarion circle only |
| 02:39.05 | Jerub | Antiarc: how do i get this for dath'remar? |
| 02:39.13 | Antiarc | You run my scanner and collect data |
| 02:39.17 | Antiarc | Then write tools to display it :P |
| 02:39.22 | Antiarc | http://github.com/cheald/AuctionBoss/ |
| 02:39.36 | Jerub | Antiarc: <3 |
| 02:39.43 | Jerub | Antiarc: <3 <3 <3 |
| 02:39.52 | Jerub | i have a party to plan and execute |
| 02:39.57 | Jerub | then ineed to get very very drunk |
| 02:40.02 | Cide | in whose pants? |
| 02:40.02 | Jerub | so this will have to wait till tomorrow |
| 02:41.31 | sylvaan | is there a way to find out your gearscore without installing the mod. i guess i can just ask in a pug or something |
| 02:41.45 | Jerub | wtfismygearscore |
| 02:41.56 | Jerub | (dot com) |
| 02:41.57 | Antiarc | http://wtfismygearscore.com/ |
| 02:42.03 | sylvaan | rofl |
| 02:42.23 | airtonix | 42 |
| 02:42.23 | Wobin | there's also one on their addon iste |
| 02:42.24 | Wobin | site |
| 02:43.04 | sylvaan | fail lol |
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| 02:44.03 | sylvaan | meh, have to wait for the armory to refresh |
| 02:44.58 | Wobin | sylvaan, yeah, I've only just managed 'Win' on my spriest |
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| 02:45.47 | sylvaan | i just upgraded my gear a little now - but not by much |
| 02:46.34 | sylvaan | ff does not like displaying the armory |
| 02:47.36 | airtonix | i wouldnt either |
| 02:49.44 | Wobin | yeah |
| 02:49.47 | Wobin | I logged in |
| 02:49.50 | Wobin | and it messed up |
| 02:55.08 | sylvaan | what is not fail? |
| 02:55.12 | sylvaan | 5500+ |
| 02:55.16 | sylvaan | ? |
| 02:55.26 | airtonix | is when you dont check the score |
| 02:55.39 | sylvaan | this is my first time checking it |
| 02:55.44 | sylvaan | gimmie a break |
| 02:56.06 | airtonix | stop pressing f5 |
| 02:56.18 | sylvaan | im not |
| 02:56.42 | sylvaan | ugh |
| 03:01.22 | Wobin | above 5100 maybe? |
| 03:01.26 | Wobin | I'm 5242 |
| 03:01.38 | airtonix | A tool for determining how fail you are. |
| 03:02.00 | airtonix | on a scale of unscored > fail... |
| 03:03.40 | sylvanaar | i was just trying to play, and the groups have gs requirements, so what can you do |
| 03:04.04 | airtonix | stop playing |
| 03:04.42 | airtonix | don't give credit to their use of gear score |
| 03:04.50 | sylvanaar | honestly it doesnt bother me at all |
| 03:05.03 | airtonix | there can be NO comprimise! |
| 03:07.47 | sylvanaar | i need to make a guild on my server i think. i hate being guildless |
| 03:08.05 | airtonix | <WeOnlyKeyBind> |
| 03:12.58 | airtonix | so, avr. |
| 03:13.09 | airtonix | are people just fooled by its perspective method of drawing? |
| 03:13.17 | airtonix | or is there some new canvas api in wow ? |
| 03:13.35 | airtonix | they think it draws on the 3d world |
| 03:13.45 | Zyn | nope, just clever math that makes perspective drawings |
| 03:13.52 | airtonix | thought so |
| 03:14.09 | airtonix | "omg ban dis addon its hax drawing on da wurld" |
| 03:14.17 | Zyn | people who believe the addon actually inject objects into the real world ... well, they dont deserve to breathe the same air as I do |
| 03:16.45 | airtonix | blizzards just butthurt that their fail attempt at encounter strategem has been undermined by a bit of trigonometry |
| 03:17.59 | DWSR | ^ |
| 03:19.09 | airtonix | lol |
| 03:19.11 | airtonix | quote |
| 03:19.13 | airtonix | Something interesting I've noticed, and thought of seeing your post, is that most good players seem to hate Gearscore as much or even more than the bad players. I know my own guild (not as good as yours, but 11/12 heroic) has mocked the mod quite a bit when making PUGs with alts. It seems to be mostly mediocre players carried by gear who love Gearscore, so it seems funny to me that a lot of people cry that they were left out of group due to Ge |
| 03:19.13 | airtonix | arscore use by "elitist" players, when really they were just left out by plain old bad/mediocre players. |
| 03:19.19 | airtonix | also spam |
| 03:19.58 | DWSR | Because gear == skill? |
| 03:20.04 | Wobin | truefax |
| 03:20.04 | airtonix | of course |
| 03:20.06 | Zyn | OBVIOUSLY |
| 03:20.50 | Zyn | I mean, I decked out my last dinged 80 character in welfare epics within a day and WOOOAAAAH my skills quadrupled |
| 03:20.53 | Zyn | ¯\(°_o)/¯ |
| 03:20.55 | Wobin | I don't mind it being banned, because of the above, really... if your guild is not skilled enough to do it -without- it, you're not skilled enough to do it. Thus you need to work harder =P |
| 03:21.03 | airtonix | lol |
| 03:23.19 | Zyn | brains are hard to come by |
| 03:23.59 | DWSR | Meh. |
| 03:24.04 | DWSR | I don't really care about GS tbh. |
| 03:24.06 | Zyn | which I notice every raiding-night, or rather: wipenights on LK25 heroic .. 100+ wipes so far, and people still think Shadow Trap's are delicious candy and must be bathed in |
| 03:24.15 | DWSR | I have like 5.7k |
| 03:24.23 | DWSR | No one really bothers to even question me anymore. |
| 03:24.24 | airtonix | <3 naked rogues pwning lvl14 warriors |
| 03:24.33 | airtonix | rank14 i mean |
| 03:24.35 | DWSR | Zyn: Shadow Traps? That a heroic only thing? |
| 03:24.38 | Zyn | yup |
| 03:25.03 | DWSR | The entirety of raiding in WoW: Don't stand in the fire. |
| 03:25.07 | DWSR | AVR(E) is living proof. |
| 03:25.27 | Wobin | DWSR, unless it's flame wreath |
| 03:25.38 | sylvanaar | Zyn: i have been looking for my IDK guy for a while thanks |
| 03:27.02 | airtonix | http://www.wegame.com/watch/World_of_Roguecraft_Episode_2 |
| 03:27.07 | Zyn | I just wish Blizzard could tune that encounter just a little, to make Defile and Valkyrs more consistent and not on timers that can cause a serious wipe just because Defile thinks its a good idea to be cast BEFORE Valkyrs ... |
| 03:27.36 | DWSR | http://shadeofaranchant.ytmnd.com/ <-- Rofl? |
| 03:32.53 | Antiarc | Valkyrs are always spawned at a set time |
| 03:33.00 | Antiarc | The second defile will happen with valks spawning |
| 03:33.06 | Antiarc | So you just have to compensate around it |
| 03:33.53 | Hjalte | http://firemawchant.ytmnd.com/ is not quite as good, but kind of the same, DWSR, |
| 03:33.56 | Zyn | it can happen the Defile spawns before the second valkyrs, which causes everyone to run like hell and Valkyrs come at the same time "Whats going eh mates?" and screw us over :[ |
| 03:34.39 | DWSR | Hjalte: I lol'ed. |
| 03:35.26 | Antiarc | It's a fixed timer, more or less |
| 03:35.34 | Antiarc | You just spread out a little, but not enough to make you lose people to valks |
| 03:36.29 | DWSR | When defile comes right before the valks, we don't spread. |
| 03:36.33 | DWSR | But we've only killed him on 10m reg. |
| 03:36.39 | airtonix | WTF |
| 03:36.41 | airtonix | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI1vS5WJxqs |
| 03:36.44 | airtonix | sound disabled |
| 03:36.46 | airtonix | WTF |
| 03:36.55 | DWSR | what? |
| 03:36.57 | Zyn | since we're doing it the Paragon-way, it has very little room for error ... actually, none... |
| 03:37.07 | DWSR | Zyn: Change strats then. |
| 03:37.09 | airtonix | re enable it for me DWSR |
| 03:37.19 | DWSR | airtonix: l2not copyright. |
| 03:37.33 | airtonix | i dun una stand |
| 03:37.58 | airtonix | it's ok internetarchive will help me |
| 03:39.42 | airtonix | http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/3392092/World_of_Roguecraft_Episode_2 |
| 03:39.47 | airtonix | fuuuu |
| 03:40.38 | Zyn | oh well, we just lost Tribute to Immortality on ToC 25 this week cause one of our rogues suddenly got a massive brainfart when he was chased by Impale ... "hurr imma use rocket boots and run HALF ACROSS THE ROOM rather than just walking on top of the ice patch, LIKE EVERYONE ELSE DOES AND SHOULD DO" ... et voila, 1 person dead cause of his sudden strike of genious |
| 03:42.03 | Wobin | I don't get it |
| 03:42.10 | Hjalte | Zyn: Doing the easy thing is for noobs ;) |
| 03:42.20 | Hjalte | And listening to tactucs! |
| 03:42.22 | Wobin | the rogue is seen killing npcs |
| 03:42.25 | Hjalte | tactics, even |
| 03:42.28 | Wobin | and the warlock is seen mounted and riding |
| 03:42.33 | Wobin | yay? |
| 03:43.09 | airtonix | Wobin, its best to remain silent than speak and remove all doubt |
| 03:43.36 | Zyn | all he had to do, was to run over the ice patch (which was RIGHT NEXT to him) with Hand of Protection on him ... BUT NOOOO, he decided to boost over to the end of the world instead :| |
| 03:45.05 | DWSR | airtonix: Quote fail. |
| 03:45.17 | DWSR | It is better to appear stupid than to speak and remove all doubt. |
| 03:45.26 | DWSR | appear stupid and be silent, rather. |
| 03:45.27 | DWSR | Anyway. |
| 03:45.38 | airtonix | i was removing the obvious |
| 03:45.47 | DWSR | and you ended up with a quote fail. |
| 03:45.48 | DWSR | nj. |
| 03:45.50 | DWSR | Anyway, nights. |
| 03:46.42 | Wobin | nice the web interface ajaxes any sold auctions |
| 03:50.10 | Jerub | Wobin: the best bit is 'claim all gold' |
| 03:50.21 | Jerub | no more fluffing around witht the broken mailbox interface for receiving auction money |
| 03:51.03 | Wobin | Jerub, yeah |
| 03:51.05 | Wobin | I really like that |
| 03:51.13 | Wobin | Hell, I'll use it just for that, even |
| 03:51.45 | airtonix | postman dealt with that |
| 03:51.51 | airtonix | or was it postal |
| 03:52.12 | Wobin | it still did it one by one |
| 03:52.13 | Wobin | in game |
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| 03:52.24 | Wobin | this is through the web interface |
| 03:52.26 | airtonix | and i still did not have to manually get money |
| 03:52.38 | Wobin | and it would fail if the mail system failed |
| 03:52.54 | Jerub | which it always did |
| 03:52.58 | Wobin | all the time |
| 03:53.11 | Wobin | and you actually had to log in =P |
| 03:53.14 | Wobin | and go to the mailbox |
| 03:53.15 | Jerub | yeah |
| 03:53.27 | Jerub | and leave dalaran ;) |
| 03:54.10 | Thunder_Child | on the other hand, now all the bank toons are going to have to level to 10 |
| 03:54.17 | Wobin | why? |
| 03:54.22 | airtonix | because i said so |
| 03:54.25 | Thunder_Child | armory cant see them other wise |
| 03:54.25 | Jerub | Wobin: can't see a toon in armory until it's 10 |
| 03:54.33 | Wobin | I can see my ah mule |
| 03:54.35 | Wobin | and he's level 1 |
| 03:54.49 | Wobin | but that's cause that's my character...? |
| 03:54.55 | Jerub | actually, that's not true |
| 03:55.05 | Jerub | i can see and desingate toons under 10 |
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| 03:55.22 | Jerub | does anyoen here play on spirestone? |
| 03:55.23 | Amarande | bwuh |
| 03:55.25 | Wobin | maybe it's just searching |
| 03:55.28 | Jerub | i just found i have toons on spirestone |
| 03:55.32 | Amarande | what is with people I keep seeing who put ALL their talent points into one tree? |
| 03:55.54 | airtonix | they do it to annoy you |
| 03:56.00 | Jerub | i do it to annoy you |
| 03:56.01 | Thunder_Child | i just tried to get on my bank toon, though it shoed it, i get an error trying to ghet to it |
| 03:56.03 | Thunder_Child | get* |
| 03:56.25 | Amarande | Jerub: you have toons you don't remember having? o.0 |
| 03:56.46 | Thunder_Child | oh, nvm |
| 03:57.05 | Jerub | Amarande: this account is as old as vanilla beta. a friend gave it to me 18 months ago |
| 03:57.14 | Jerub | Amarande: so he's got toons on a bunch of servers i've not touched |
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| 03:57.25 | Thunder_Child | i have toons i forgot i had made |
| 03:57.35 | Jerub | plus, some of these, i forgot i made |
| 03:57.36 | Jerub | ;) |
| 03:57.44 | Jamash | I have toons on other people's accounts, maybe those are the ones you're seeing |
| 03:57.48 | airtonix | a likely story |
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| 03:58.18 | Thunder_Child | i just dont like the fact that there is no offline mode for the armory app, the talent calc would be nice w/o having to be online |
| 03:58.37 | Jamash | I want an app that lets me play wow offline |
| 03:59.01 | Thunder_Child | good luck on that one |
| 04:00.48 | Amarande | Jamash: that's called Final Fantasy XII |
| 04:01.28 | Jamash | no, that's an app that lets wow play _itself_ |
| 04:01.43 | airtonix | its called calling something that its not called |
| 04:04.37 | Jerub | Antiarc: i demand data from the neutral auctionhouse on your realm |
| 04:04.47 | Antiarc | I'll pull it eventually. |
| 04:04.47 | Jamash | I demand tacos |
| 04:04.54 | Antiarc | It's far lower volume though |
| 04:04.56 | ZorbaBeta | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I73wtHxSMVk how not to release a leopard. |
| 04:06.33 | Jamash | the correct way to release a leopard is to not feed it for two days then open the cage at the republican national convention |
| 04:08.41 | airtonix | you speak from experience ? |
| 04:08.51 | Jamash | sure, why not |
| 04:09.14 | airtonix | i would lock your door |
| 04:09.31 | airtonix | the window too |
| 04:10.01 | Jamash | pfft, why bother |
| 04:10.04 | airtonix | did you throw fresh meat in the opposite direction of yourself ? |
| 04:10.41 | Jamash | wireless remotes are very useful |
| 04:12.03 | Xinhuan | did anyone get distracted by google's front page pacman lol |
| 04:12.18 | Jamash | zomg |
| 04:12.33 | Jamash | I use the search bar so much I hardly ever visit the google front page |
| 04:12.54 | Xinhuan | insert coin gets you 2 pacmans! |
| 04:13.20 | Jamash | wait it actually works??? |
| 04:13.32 | Adys | yeah it does |
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| 04:14.06 | Jamash | that's awesome |
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| 04:15.21 | Jamash | http://www.google.com/logos/pacman10-hp-sprite-2.png |
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| 04:16.46 | bleeter | wonder if furbolg form will get /dance in Cata... |
| 04:16.59 | bleeter | ducks |
| 04:17.31 | Nechckn | bleeter You know it will not, just to keep you angry in their general direction. |
| 04:19.56 | Jamash | if blizzard made everyone happy, nobody would ever visit the forum and their ad revenue would plummet |
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| 04:41.35 | airtonix | lol |
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| 05:01.32 | Xinhuan | hoho |
| 05:01.35 | Xinhuan | sc2 beta patching |
| 05:01.39 | Xinhuan | with db wipe |
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| 05:17.41 | Arrowmaster | whats this [PH] EXPIRES: June 21, 5:16 AM |
| 05:18.55 | Wobin | placeholder? |
| 05:27.59 | Arrowmaster | oh yeah arent they doing some kinda subscription thing for some countries |
| 05:28.06 | Arrowmaster | thats probably what it is |
| 05:28.34 | Arrowmaster | and damn the co-op vs a.i. thing is selectable but doesnt work, and custom game still only has very easy ai |
| 05:29.23 | Arrowmaster | guess ill try a practice league |
| 05:41.19 | Dagmar | Pfft. I guess Best Buy ran out of beta keys |
| 05:41.52 | airtonix | is that like target ? |
| 05:42.23 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 05:42.29 | airtonix | like kmart |
| 05:42.52 | Dagmar | 'cept no lawn and garden department. Mainly electronics and computers |
| 05:44.28 | sylvanaar | god i hate the mining addon guy |
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| 05:44.56 | sylvanaar | he needs to die |
| 05:45.29 | airtonix | talking about john ? |
| 05:50.24 | Adys | sylvanaar: who? |
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| 05:55.31 | sylvanaar | the spammer on curse |
| 05:57.53 | Dagmar | Interesting. Now I know what this Boot Booster stuff is for. It's for screwing up. |
| 05:58.28 | airtonix | ureadahead ? |
| 05:58.30 | Dagmar | The bios appears to dump a cache after a successful POST check, and on the next cold boot will try to read that instead of doing the checks again. |
| 05:58.50 | Dagmar | Except if you just updated your BIOS until you zero that thing, it'll stubbornly keep trying to load the old dat |
| 05:58.56 | Dagmar | failfailfailfail |
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| 06:00.03 | Dagmar | Being that POST only takes less than two seconds and I've got a nice splash screen, I'm not sure if I even care enough to look for a fix |
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| 06:17.35 | Arrowmaster | i would rather the system take longer to boot yet be stable and have run all its checks than use any shortcuts to speed up the boot time |
| 06:18.14 | Arrowmaster | lets see what uprecords shows |
| 06:18.16 | Arrowmaster | down 0 days, 01:11:10 | since Thu Oct 29 10:19:02 2009 |
| 06:18.33 | Dagmar | In my case, I'd rather it actually boot. |
| 06:19.05 | Arrowmaster | yeah my system has been off for 1 hour 11 minutes and 10 seconds since oct 29, i spend so little time booting i dont care how long it takes |
| 06:20.23 | airtonix | same i just suspend my netbook so it takes bugger all time to "boot" |
| 06:38.05 | Amarande | wow, what a useless quest! |
| 06:38.17 | Amarande | too bad Zul'Drak is so tight regarding its zone achievement, though, so a necessary one anyway :| |
| 06:38.38 | Amarande | like ... thanks ... I never knew 91mp5 was such a wonderful useful blessing for a DEATH KNIGHT! :| |
| 06:40.09 | zenzelezz | mana mana do-DO-do-doooo-do |
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| 06:58.03 | Thunder_Child | no more shrooms for you zenzelezz |
| 07:00.29 | Cairenn | mana mana do-DO-do-dooo-do |
| 07:02.22 | Thunder_Child | and you Cairenn |
| 07:02.58 | Cairenn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA90IlymdZ4 |
| 07:05.30 | Fisker | blows up Thunder_Child |
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| 07:06.00 | Thunder_Child | dodges Fisker |
| 07:06.13 | Fisker | you can't dodge when you're dead |
| 07:06.30 | Thunder_Child | blow up != dead |
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| 07:10.51 | kd3 | <insert kd3 raging at his isp here> |
| 07:11.34 | Thunder_Child | ~comfort kd3 |
| 07:11.34 | purl | There, there, kd3. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 07:16.43 | airtonix | rage is good |
| 07:17.00 | airtonix | it prevents others from using mind control on you |
| 07:17.14 | Xinhuan | that's frenzy |
| 07:17.18 | airtonix | well yes |
| 07:17.35 | airtonix | one can not frenzy without rage |
| 07:18.41 | Torhal | Cairenn: Sorry - I may have been a bit inflammatory, but mankeluvsit has been getting on my nerves for about a month now. http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=188853&postcount=17 |
| 07:19.21 | Torhal | Self-centered prick, IMHO. |
| 07:20.17 | Cairenn | as long as it doesn't go any further than that, it's fine |
| 07:20.40 | Cairenn | and yes, there are any number of users on the site that drive me batty, too |
| 07:20.45 | Torhal | Hehe |
| 07:21.13 | Cairenn | I just can't say that ;) |
| 07:22.01 | Torhal | It started when I tried to help on a thread he opened. When he decided he didn't like my advice he basically told me to stay on topic or go away. Since then, I've seen the same attitude toward others. He's my new nightcracker. |
| 07:22.09 | Torhal | :D |
| 07:22.39 | Cairenn | Take this the right way, please |
| 07:22.51 | Cairenn | There's always the ignore option on the site .... |
| 07:22.54 | Torhal | Hehe |
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| 07:31.48 | Shirik | pets Cairenn |
| 07:31.55 | Cairenn | purrs |
| 07:37.41 | Fisker | suckerpunches Shirik |
| 07:37.46 | Shirik | no |
| 07:37.51 | airtonix | looks good |
| 07:38.10 | airtonix | photographs it |
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| 07:38.28 | airtonix | that's a air shiner there shirik... |
| 07:38.44 | airtonix | slab of cold meat on it |
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| 08:02.51 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 08:02.53 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
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| 08:04.33 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 08:05.07 | Jamash | <crickets> |
| 08:06.06 | Fisker | indeed Jamash |
| 08:06.14 | Fisker | Shirik and kd3 are jerks |
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| 08:06.46 | Fisker | also Cairenn |
| 08:06.53 | Dagmar | The ninja thing in the news is just too good |
| 08:06.54 | Cairenn | Fisker: hmm? |
| 08:07.04 | Cairenn | Dagmar: that was hilarious |
| 08:07.13 | Fisker | what ninja thing? |
| 08:07.32 | Dagmar | Fisker: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20005600-504083.html |
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| 08:09.59 | airtonix | The ninjas wore the traditional all black uniform and blended in with the night. |
| 08:10.17 | Wobin | Torhal, I like Petrah's sig better than yours =) |
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| 08:11.28 | Torhal | Wobin: Improved derivitive? :D |
| 08:12.03 | Torhal | Funny thing is, it's also based on something I said in a thread :D |
| 08:12.03 | Wobin | indeed =) |
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| 08:14.36 | Torhal | Ergh. I downloaded the PTR intent on seeing what code of mine broke. Instead, I've been playing Morrowind and marathon-watching TV shows. |
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| 08:15.46 | Fisker | hey Torhal |
| 08:15.49 | Fisker | you cannot stop me |
| 08:16.00 | airtonix | stops Fisker |
| 08:16.55 | Torhal | Fisker: I don't need to SIGSTOP you, since you constantly SIGSEGV. |
| 08:17.12 | airtonix | touche |
| 08:17.31 | Fisker | :( |
| 08:20.37 | airtonix | Fisker, so you routinely violate segments ? |
| 08:20.45 | Fisker | apparently |
| 08:21.18 | Torhal | At least I didn't try to SIGKILL you. |
| 08:23.42 | Fisker | vidi veni |
| 08:24.47 | Antiarc | http://i.imgur.com/LGAbI.jpg |
| 08:24.50 | Antiarc | Totem radii for hudmap. |
| 08:25.08 | Fisker | hey Antiarc |
| 08:25.12 | Antiarc | hey Fisker |
| 08:25.30 | Fisker | how does it figure that out |
| 08:25.34 | Fisker | ? |
| 08:25.44 | Fisker | simply some experimentation and hardcoding the values or? |
| 08:25.52 | airtonix | with the blood of virgins |
| 08:25.55 | Antiarc | What do you mean? |
| 08:26.00 | Antiarc | Totem ranges are well known |
| 08:26.10 | Antiarc | If you mean range-to-pixel conversion, that's just zone scaling |
| 08:26.28 | Fisker | no |
| 08:26.37 | Fisker | i mean the position of the totem |
| 08:26.54 | Antiarc | Hardcoded values. |
| 08:27.11 | Antiarc | They always appear at a certain place relative to you |
| 08:27.16 | Antiarc | Unless you're up against a wall |
| 08:27.16 | Wobin | you have an addon that extends your occulus lock? =P |
| 08:27.20 | Antiarc | In which case try again next time |
| 08:27.33 | Antiarc | Wobin: Yes, because the random dunger is less likely to put you in a dungeon you're locked to |
| 08:27.40 | Antiarc | so the addon just infini-extends my occulus lock :P |
| 08:27.41 | Wobin | occulus is piss easy though |
| 08:27.48 | Wobin | and nets more badges |
| 08:27.50 | Antiarc | It's a source of great pain and suffering |
| 08:27.51 | Wobin | and the mount |
| 08:27.53 | Antiarc | People drop it like crazy |
| 08:27.54 | Fisker | that shouldn't have any effect Antiarc |
| 08:27.58 | Antiarc | And then you end up waiting for new people |
| 08:28.00 | Wobin | god knows why |
| 08:28.14 | Fisker | luckily not a problem here |
| 08:28.18 | Fisker | we don't suck hoho |
| 08:28.40 | Dagmar | ...but remember, if you've only got 30 minutes to play, it WILL pick Occulus |
| 08:29.36 | Fisker | sweet |
| 08:29.40 | Dagmar | Honestly tho the last few times we've done it we've blown through it fast |
| 08:29.48 | Fisker | they finally got rid of that name.identifier sillyness in beta |
| 08:30.40 | Dagmar | Last night we had a tank try to wipe us in a regular instance because he thought things were too slow |
| 08:30.53 | Dagmar | We'd been letting him lead the way |
| 08:31.22 | airtonix | logicfail |
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| 08:31.43 | Dagmar | Actually, it was pretty funny because we thought he was going a little slow |
| 08:32.00 | airtonix | maybe he has some form of chronopsychosis |
| 08:32.01 | Fisker | i think Blizzard sucks |
| 08:32.13 | Dagmar | We saw him go running off and get himself into trouble, and since three of us are guildies who are used to playing together, we ran over and stomped everything |
| 08:32.14 | Amarande | heh, people are talking about oculus again? :P |
| 08:32.20 | Fisker | i think their editor doesn't support authenticator |
| 08:32.20 | Amarande | actually, oculus wasn't so bad the second time through |
| 08:32.20 | Fisker | durr |
| 08:32.33 | Amarande | the first time I was like OMGIAMNOTATALLUSEDTOTHISDRAGONTHING |
| 08:32.34 | Dagmar | After that he explained and said "But clearly, I was mistaken about what you guys can do" |
| 08:32.44 | Dagmar | From then on it was 7- and 8-pulls |
| 08:32.45 | Dagmar | :) |
| 08:32.51 | Dagmar | I tanked. :) |
| 08:32.52 | Amarande | of course, now I have to learn the emerald and ruby drakes too, for the ach |
| 08:32.57 | airtonix | lulz |
| 08:33.18 | airtonix | Amarande, why so OMGYOUMISSEDTHETRAININGQUEST |
| 08:33.43 | Wobin | emerald is easy |
| 08:33.47 | Wobin | three stacks on the boss |
| 08:33.55 | Wobin | dream funnel anyone taking damage |
| 08:34.03 | Wobin | and the damage reduction at the beginning of each phase |
| 08:34.08 | Wobin | (and not when he's enraged) |
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| 08:36.42 | Amarande | airtonix: there's a training quest? |
| 08:37.07 | airtonix | lol |
| 08:37.23 | airtonix | aces high |
| 08:37.35 | Amarande | hmm, I don't think I've noticed it |
| 08:37.47 | Amarande | of course, given that you usually don't return to coldarra after you do BT ... :S |
| 08:37.49 | Dagmar | Amarande: I take it you're used to just grabbing the drake you "always grab" as deeps? |
| 08:38.01 | Amarande | Dagmar: I've only BEEN to Oc twice so far. |
| 08:38.06 | Dagmar | Ah |
| 08:38.41 | airtonix | Amarande, if you're easily distracted and don't pay attention to the quest text then its understandable that you missed it |
| 08:40.30 | Amarande | airtonix: don't you have to actually go back to Coldarra at 80 to get that quest? |
| 08:40.43 | airtonix | no |
| 08:40.43 | Amarande | who goes back to Coldarra after like ... whatever level they did the regular BT quests at |
| 08:41.09 | airtonix | people who go to the raid |
| 08:41.35 | Dagmar | ...and skinners |
| 08:41.48 | Fisker | i rage |
| 08:41.49 | Amarande | ahh. haven't been to maly yet |
| 08:41.58 | Amarande | and there's plenty to skin where I'm questing right now, anyways :S |
| 08:42.01 | Fisker | i can't publish my SC2 maps because Blizzard didn't figure that map authors had authenticators |
| 08:42.13 | Amarande | also: here's lucky |
| 08:42.24 | Amarande | one Utgarde Pinnacle run, I only ever got the time to skin one wolf |
| 08:42.29 | Amarande | ... arctic fur. |
| 08:42.30 | Amarande | :) |
| 08:43.21 | Amarande | btw, is the stuff you swim in in gundrak water, or is it that mojo stuff trolls are always dropping? |
| 08:43.44 | Antiarc | http://i.imgur.com/pko7w.jpg |
| 08:43.46 | Antiarc | Better texture :) |
| 08:44.20 | Fisker | shaman totems are boring |
| 08:44.23 | Fisker | give bossmods |
| 08:44.45 | Dagmar | Amarande: THat's just a little bit yucky to think about |
| 08:44.52 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsgGuEYyOzQ&hd=1 <-- HudMap + Sindragosa |
| 08:44.55 | Antiarc | There you go Fisker |
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| 08:45.21 | Fisker | sounds like random tankspot video music to me |
| 08:46.05 | Fisker | lol whispering fanged skull |
| 08:46.09 | Amarande | Dagmar: can't be any yuckier than pondering what exactly the Bear Organs that drop in felwood are :) |
| 08:46.16 | Antiarc | heroic WFS! |
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| 08:47.27 | Fisker | lol iceblock failures |
| 08:47.27 | Amarande | OH GOD NOT INTRICATE BONE FIGURINE AGAIN |
| 08:47.36 | airtonix | OH GOD MY EYES! |
| 08:47.37 | Antiarc | yeah that was pretty funny |
| 08:47.41 | Antiarc | IF ONLY THEY HAD BEEN USING HUDMAP |
| 08:47.54 | Amarande | airtonix: let's put it this way |
| 08:47.57 | Amarande | it needs a bloody sun crystal |
| 08:48.05 | Fisker | your pathetic boss mods BETRAYS YOU |
| 08:48.07 | Amarande | last time I needed a sun crystal, I ended up spending an hour flying around Sholazar |
| 08:48.55 | Amarande | I seriously got *everything but*, *over and over again* |
| 08:49.02 | Amarande | it's like saronite doesn't like to prospect into sun crystals |
| 08:49.15 | airtonix | you were NOT prepared! |
| 08:49.27 | Amarande | (now, if this is actually the case, and it's not just "random loot is random", I guess there are lore reasons for that, given that saronite is anything but sunny, but still LOL) |
| 08:50.14 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: so how many people in your guild do you have using hudmap already? |
| 08:50.26 | airtonix | humbug |
| 08:50.38 | airtonix | peasents will use the boring stuff |
| 08:50.48 | Amarande | man, I just hope I can find usable help for the icecrown quests when I get there so I can finally get ebon blade rep |
| 08:51.04 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: None, I'm still developing it |
| 08:51.19 | Amarande | also: after DKing, warlocking feels distinctly meh. |
| 08:51.34 | Amarande | which is pretty much why I only use Alvaerin for her tradeskills now |
| 08:51.38 | Jamash | if warlocking seems meh UR DOIN IT RONG |
| 08:54.00 | Amarande | Jamash: it might be because characters who actually have cast times for stuff feel clunky now :) |
| 08:54.08 | Jamash | affliction |
| 08:55.32 | Amarande | I used to be aff ... till I discovered that my DPS *sucked* |
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| 08:57.21 | Amarande | as for "usable help" in icecrown I'm sure you folks know what I mean. :) |
| 08:57.38 | Fisker | i published a map |
| 08:57.40 | Fisker | i'm awesome |
| 08:58.09 | Jamash | awesometarded |
| 08:59.13 | Dagmar | Amarande: How low was it? |
| 08:59.24 | Fisker | i awesomefart in your face Jamash |
| 09:00.33 | Amarande | Dagmar: in the 2000's |
| 09:00.45 | Amarande | although it could also have been gear, as I had (and still have, really) bullshit gear on the warlock |
| 09:03.25 | Dagmar | Yeah a lack of spellpower would do it |
| 09:04.43 | Fisker | so Antiarc |
| 09:04.59 | Fisker | *stares* |
| 09:05.45 | airtonix | i think he wants you to awesomefart in his face Antiarc |
| 09:06.31 | Fisker | that would be sweet |
| 09:06.53 | airtonix | copraphile |
| 09:07.02 | airtonix | disgusting creature |
| 09:07.36 | airtonix | i bet you're part of the rebel alliance |
| 09:08.33 | Torhal | airtonix: He's The Golgothan. |
| 09:09.02 | airtonix | TitleCase Title Is TitleCase |
| 09:09.33 | airtonix | but yes |
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| 09:10.21 | Jamash | butt yes |
| 09:10.29 | airtonix | oh you |
| 09:10.37 | airtonix | you're a different kind if deviant |
| 09:11.01 | airtonix | otherwise depraved and lustful |
| 09:11.03 | Amarande | ok, time to log off and go to that place called sleep |
| 09:11.05 | Amarande | night :) |
| 09:13.18 | Fisker | but Antiarc |
| 09:13.24 | Fisker | how usable is teh hudmap stuff yet? |
| 09:13.40 | Jamash | fisker needs it so he can hit the urinal |
| 09:13.52 | airtonix | well... |
| 09:14.06 | airtonix | after recieving a bull i bet noone could piss straight |
| 09:16.34 | Antiarc | Fisker: usable enough that I turned off AVR in favor of it on Sindragosa tonight |
| 09:17.26 | Fisker | i don't have to setup git and shit to get it? |
| 09:17.32 | airtonix | ... |
| 09:17.32 | Fisker | (I'm a poet and i didn't even know it) |
| 09:17.38 | airtonix | sif you can use git |
| 09:17.49 | Jamash | git er done |
| 09:17.58 | airtonix | git a dog up |
| 09:18.27 | airtonix | getting quite vulgar |
| 09:18.32 | Antiarc | Fisker: shouldn't need to |
| 09:18.42 | Fisker | k |
| 09:18.45 | Fisker | saaaaaaauce |
| 09:18.54 | airtonix | http://google.com |
| 09:18.57 | Fisker | slaps airtonix around a bit with a large trout |
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| 09:21.37 | Fisker | ~seen Ackis |
| 09:21.39 | purl | ackis is currently on #waruidev #sc2mapster #wowuidev #arl #wowace #curseforge #wowwiki. Has said a total of 55 messages. Is idling for 16h 29m 10s, last said: 'meh blizzard spending the time and resources to "defeat" this addon is about the same as them putting the effort into the voice chat system... just silly and a waste of resources'. |
| 09:21.40 | Fisker | and i need you more than ever |
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| 09:59.35 | Sixen | Hai kd3. |
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| 10:40.42 | Fisker | lol @ Blizzard |
| 10:40.56 | teetow | yes, let us laugh and be merry! |
| 10:40.58 | Fisker | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/25026572810/blizzard-supports-multi-boxing-gameplay/ |
| 10:41.16 | nevcairiel | why lol? |
| 10:41.35 | olafski | what's so funny peewee? |
| 10:41.47 | olafski | this is hardly news.. :P |
| 10:42.02 | olafski | or surprising.. and what a whiner |
| 10:42.16 | olafski | try fighting 5 shamans played by 5 different people.. not like that's easy :P |
| 10:42.56 | Fisker | i can survive 5 shamans played by 5 different people olafski |
| 10:42.58 | Fisker | easily |
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| 10:43.53 | olafski | for about for 12 seconds and then a little bit longer? :) |
| 10:44.07 | teetow | ::pop:: |
| 10:44.17 | Fisker | nope olafski indefinitely |
| 10:45.57 | olafski | I'd be impressed |
| 10:46.07 | olafski | were it not that I have trouble believing you.. and not only because you're you |
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| 10:46.55 | Caleb| | not like its easy to multibox in high end pvp, especially nowdays with all the aoe stun knocback and other annoying abilities |
| 10:47.27 | olafski | aye.. but this guy probably got jumped by 5 shamans casting lightning bolt on him in hellfire peninsula ;) |
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| 10:56.20 | harl | hallo |
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| 11:06.08 | airtonix | so fisker, bathing in the blood of a well used bull ? |
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| 11:22.35 | sylvanaar | what do you guys think, shortened chat bubbles http://tinypic.com/r/npi6op/6, anything over 1 line gets truncated with "..." |
| 11:23.22 | airtonix | i turned bubbles off |
| 11:23.37 | sylvanaar | i like them, but they cover up my screen somtimes |
| 11:23.56 | airtonix | use a different font ? |
| 11:25.05 | zenzelezz | sylvanaar: like airtonix, I've disabled them, but with your truncated ones I'd be more inclined to keep them on, just to see the position of the speaker |
| 11:25.19 | sylvanaar | yeah, thats why i have them on |
| 11:25.41 | olafski | replace them with downward pointing arrows ;) |
| 11:25.49 | airtonix | be good if they would expand to full size when you mouse over them |
| 11:25.49 | sylvanaar | you think ... is clear? or something like (more...) |
| 11:26.11 | sylvanaar | well, thats why i shrunk them |
| 11:26.18 | zenzelezz | I remember in Anarchy Online you could toggle a setting to flash the person's head when he spoke in vicinity/shout |
| 11:26.23 | sylvanaar | because they were blocking my mouse |
| 11:27.01 | sylvanaar | you know, its possible to draw something else next to the speaker and not show the bubble |
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| 11:29.17 | Kaso | I think you're the only other person i've ever seen that has written an addon to play with chat bubbles |
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| 11:29.58 | olafski | I didn't know people used those :< |
| 11:30.01 | sylvanaar | i did another one that put chat bubbles on pitbull frames |
| 11:30.04 | airtonix | such a young and naive boy |
| 11:30.06 | zenzelezz | Kaso: I started writing an addon to turn the normal NPC conversation dialog to a chat bubble, but ditched it |
| 11:30.27 | Kaso | that's a cool idea |
| 11:31.11 | sylvanaar | http://www.worldofwarcraft2.co.uk/news-Addon-Spotlight-Prat-and-PitBull-Prat-1161.html |
| 11:32.01 | sylvanaar | though I drew my own bubbles on that one |
| 11:34.21 | sylvanaar | im trying to think of an NPC that has notoriously large bubbles |
| 11:34.43 | airtonix | <insert your mum joke> |
| 11:34.52 | Arrowmaster | i can think of a few |
| 11:35.13 | airtonix | lol green doors |
| 11:35.22 | airtonix | big steaming massive ... bubbles |
| 11:35.42 | Arrowmaster | i think they were quest ones in TBC in shatt, that had multiple chat lines coming from a single event and the text had \n's in it |
| 11:38.16 | sylvanaar | yeah, shatt, good idea |
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| 11:53.33 | sylvanaar | the amulet guy |
| 12:00.52 | Antiarc | FISKER |
| 12:00.55 | Antiarc | FROZEN YOGURT TIMES |
| 12:03.36 | Kalroth | Antiarc has finally lost it |
| 12:03.40 | Antiarc | No no |
| 12:03.46 | Wobin | je |
| 12:03.46 | Antiarc | Froyo is being rolled out to Nexus Ones tonight |
| 12:03.47 | Antiarc | http://techcrunch.com/2010/05/22/android-froyo-nexus-one/ |
| 12:03.51 | Wobin | he's covered in Froyo |
| 12:04.29 | Kalroth | oh |
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| 12:05.06 | nevcairiel | froyo is ready already? |
| 12:05.14 | nevcairiel | i didnt think it would follow so close after the announcement |
| 12:05.15 | Arrowmaster | throws a windows pc through a window |
| 12:06.10 | Arrowmaster | how the fuck does this windows defender pro crap completely destroy the file associations for executables when i cant even fucking fix it because the account is locked down to not be able to change that shit |
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| 12:06.51 | airtonix | looooool |
| 12:07.51 | Arrowmaster | im not fucking joking |
| 12:08.01 | Arrowmaster | i cant change the settings from that user |
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| 12:13.34 | airtonix | i believe you |
| 12:13.41 | Arrowmaster | had to fucking login as the user, switch users and login as the uneffected admin account, run regedit and delete the damn file association for .exe from the users registry |
| 12:13.51 | airtonix | im waiting for a microftian to step up and explain |
| 12:13.53 | airtonix | EXPLAIN! |
| 12:13.56 | Arrowmaster | HOW THE FUCK DID IT EVEN FUCKING GET SET IN THE FIRST PLACE |
| 12:14.04 | airtonix | nom nom nom |
| 12:15.25 | Arrowmaster | i swear im going to turn the god damn router filter back on that blocks all activex for that computer |
| 12:15.40 | Arrowmaster | if only it wouldnt block msupdate |
| 12:15.50 | airtonix | how does it block activex ? |
| 12:16.07 | Arrowmaster | blocks .ocx and .cab file extensions i think |
| 12:16.14 | airtonix | does it have squid or something ? |
| 12:16.20 | airtonix | oh |
| 12:16.38 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 12:16.55 | airtonix | smoke some weed |
| 12:16.58 | airtonix | calm down |
| 12:17.24 | Arrowmaster | the only weed i have is my hidden stash from highschool |
| 12:17.35 | Arrowmaster | i doubt its good anymore |
| 12:17.42 | airtonix | and you forgot where it is ? |
| 12:17.48 | Arrowmaster | no i know where it is |
| 12:17.54 | Arrowmaster | its just really old |
| 12:18.05 | Arrowmaster | and dried out by now |
| 12:18.20 | airtonix | ugh |
| 12:19.41 | airtonix | wtf |
| 12:19.47 | airtonix | pretender isle part one |
| 12:20.02 | airtonix | starts off with : 'previously on pretender".... |
| 12:20.22 | airtonix | i was led to believe this was a standalone episode |
| 12:20.30 | zenzelezz | The Pretender? |
| 12:21.09 | airtonix | looks like he has plastic surgery |
| 12:21.15 | airtonix | guy smiles |
| 12:22.05 | zenzelezz | are you talking about that old series with the dude who could take on any profession and stuff? Jarod or whoever? |
| 12:22.18 | airtonix | possibly |
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| 12:28.20 | Bibi | The Pretender was great! |
| 12:28.33 | zenzelezz | yeah, I loved that series |
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| 12:34.28 | airtonix | im sure it will grow on me |
| 12:41.12 | Arrowmaster | http://kotaku.com/5543429/rock-band-getting-japanese-groups wtf at that top 10 list |
| 12:41.22 | Arrowmaster | missing anything i would have wanted |
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| 12:47.18 | Arrowmaster | ill admit to trying to find if anybody had created http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW0ACO3aUrk in ghTunes before and being disappointed when i didnt find anything |
| 12:53.22 | foxlit | I want to retrieve a... key... for a specific... key... from a HashMap :( |
| 12:53.51 | sylvanaar | too much hash |
| 12:54.30 | foxlit | It makes sense on some strange level. |
| 12:55.13 | foxlit | But looks like you can't actually do it without iterating, which spoils the entire point. |
| 12:56.15 | sylvanaar | keys are unique, you mean you want to get the next key having the same value ? |
| 12:56.25 | foxlit | No, that's just it. |
| 12:56.44 | foxlit | My keys are actually Sets |
| 12:56.47 | sylvanaar | if keys arent unique then its a set |
| 12:56.48 | sylvanaar | oh |
| 12:56.53 | foxlit | So I'm mapping some Set to some Integer |
| 12:57.17 | foxlit | The problem is, the Set object I'm going to insert is going to be modified, so I'll need to create a copy to let the Map have its own instance |
| 12:57.39 | foxlit | Chances are, there's already a K,V pair in the map such that K.equals(mySetInstance) |
| 12:58.09 | foxlit | Now, it would be awesome if I could avoid creating a new copy of my set and just reuse the copy that's already being used as a key in the map. |
| 12:59.00 | foxlit | Unfortunately, that involves retrieving a key using a key, which is so totally random that it's not supported by the interface. |
| 12:59.26 | Xinhuan | ok so who understood what foxlit just said? |
| 12:59.28 | sylvanaar | i did |
| 12:59.31 | sylvanaar | finally |
| 12:59.54 | sylvanaar | its retrieving a key using another value of type key |
| 13:00.47 | sylvanaar | why dont you just use a set |
| 13:01.13 | foxlit | Because I need to tie it to an integer. |
| 13:01.26 | sylvanaar | thats what sets do |
| 13:01.58 | foxlit | ... I'm not sure what you mean. |
| 13:02.36 | sylvanaar | you can create sets of k,v tuples |
| 13:03.46 | Arrowmaster | http://kotaku.com/5544316/yes-this-is-the-best-final-fantasy-vii-cosplay totally epic |
| 13:03.59 | foxlit | I could create a map of k => <k,v> |
| 13:04.10 | Xinhuan | i thought you can't modify keys in a map |
| 13:04.31 | sylvanaar | you cant |
| 13:04.42 | sylvanaar | what would be the point |
| 13:04.45 | foxlit | Or, rather, you can, but things will be crashing down around you. |
| 13:04.54 | foxlit | Seems to me like you'd need trickery to extract <k,v> by k from a set. |
| 13:05.16 | sylvanaar | what language |
| 13:05.21 | foxlit | java |
| 13:08.37 | Maldivia | foxlit: can't you solve that issue by implementing your own equals() on the key, that way even if the two sets are different, you can still get the same Integer from them? |
| 13:08.57 | Maldivia | (different - as in, contains the same, but are different instances) |
| 13:09.30 | foxlit | Maldivia: I did that :) |
| 13:09.49 | foxlit | The problem is that I cannot use the copy of the set I already have as a key in a map |
| 13:09.57 | foxlit | Because I'm going to modify it eventually |
| 13:10.54 | Maldivia | and whne you modify it, you want it to point to a new value, but existing copies still point to the current |
| 13:12.08 | Xinhuan | maybe you should use some intermediate object (that references the actual sets) as the map keys instead of the actual set objects themselves |
| 13:12.44 | sylvanaar | keep a list |
| 13:12.53 | foxlit | I don't want the map updated if anything happens to the set. |
| 13:13.01 | Maldivia | why not just keep the keys immutable? |
| 13:13.24 | Xinhuan | hence the intermediate object |
| 13:13.37 | Maldivia | and if you want to change, you make a copy of the key and change that |
| 13:14.37 | foxlit | Xinhuan: the intermediate object would need to keep a copy of the set as it was at the time of insertion. |
| 13:15.11 | sylvanaar | use a list of sets that you have already added |
| 13:15.16 | Xinhuan | but that's only if its going to be modified yes? |
| 13:15.25 | Xinhuan | in which case you need to create a new set anyway |
| 13:16.45 | foxlit | sylvanaar: and iterate over that? |
| 13:16.54 | sylvanaar | yeah, since you can keep it sorted |
| 13:16.55 | foxlit | Might as well iterate over the keySet. |
| 13:17.30 | sylvanaar | you can do a binary search on the list |
| 13:18.13 | Maldivia | foxlit: when inserting into the map, why not just map.put(Collection.unmodifiableSet(new HashSet(originalSet)), myInt); <-- that way the map has it's own copy of the set, that is a immutable copy of the original |
| 13:18.41 | foxlit | Maldivia: yes, that is (almost) what I'm doing. |
| 13:19.11 | foxlit | The problem is, if map.containsKey(originalSet), you're creating a new HashSet for no good reason. |
| 13:20.02 | foxlit | [I'm not concerned about map keys being modified, so there's no need for the unmodifiable set wrapper -- it's just originalSet that's bound to change] |
| 13:20.47 | Maldivia | the unmodifiable was so later you can't do map.keySet().iterator().next().clear() |
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| 13:21.41 | Maldivia | foxlit: but in the above, if originalSet changes, it should point to another int than myInt, right? |
| 13:21.46 | foxlit | no. |
| 13:21.49 | sylvanaar | man |
| 13:21.52 | Maldivia | ohh |
| 13:22.36 | foxlit | Hm, er. |
| 13:22.38 | sylvanaar | the original set that is a key in the map |
| 13:22.41 | sylvanaar | ?? |
| 13:23.51 | foxlit | Let's just rephase that: at some point, you're given a set and an integer, and want to store the set => integer pair in a map. |
| 13:24.27 | foxlit | The instance of the set you're given may eventually be modified, but you want the map to contain the set => integer pair as it was when you were handed the set |
| 13:24.49 | foxlit | So if you were given {"foo"}, 5; the map should still contain {"foo"} => 5 even after someone changes {"foo"} to {"bar"} |
| 13:25.08 | krka | oh, java stuff! |
| 13:25.11 | sylvanaar | change the set to an integer |
| 13:25.19 | sylvanaar | in a list |
| 13:25.39 | sylvanaar | then use an array |
| 13:25.53 | Maldivia | foxlit: and if someone else comes with a nother set, that contains {"foo"}, they should get 5, and not create a new entry, correct? |
| 13:26.02 | foxlit | Maldivia: correct. |
| 13:26.35 | foxlit | Set equals/hashCode behavior is actually specified by an interface; a set is equal to another set if there does not exist an element that is present in one but not the other. |
| 13:26.40 | foxlit | s/an/the/ |
| 13:27.38 | Xinhuan | so what exactly is the problem |
| 13:27.50 | krka | looks like you actually want: mutable set => (original set, value) |
| 13:28.04 | krka | and mutable keys are bad |
| 13:28.10 | Maldivia | then making an immutable copy of the set as the key should solve that problem |
| 13:28.38 | krka | foxlit: interfaces cant specify implementations |
| 13:29.12 | Maldivia | krka: no, but they can specify expected behaviour |
| 13:29.23 | foxlit | krka: I'm actually leaning to key => {key, value} |
| 13:29.52 | sylvanaar | needs source code |
| 13:30.00 | foxlit | Xinhuan: Maldivia: there's no problem in the description so far -- just make a new copy of the set every time you have to update the map, and put that in the set. The map is insulated against future changes, and everyone is happy. |
| 13:30.14 | Maldivia | foxlit: if you have an immutable copy of the set as the key, you should have what you want, and if you don't like the memory overhead, then create your own derivative of the set and create it on the fly when the set changes |
| 13:30.32 | foxlit | However, that extra copy of the set is unnecessary if there's already an identical copy being used as the key in that map. |
| 13:30.46 | krka | i guess immutable set -> value is good enough, if you never need to get the current value |
| 13:30.50 | Maldivia | foxlit: there will never be an identical copy used as a key |
| 13:30.53 | Xinhuan | is your map a map with unique keys? |
| 13:30.57 | foxlit | The map already contains {"foo"} => 5; someone hands you {"foo", 6}. You create a new {"foo"} because you can't get the old {"foo"} from the key |
| 13:31.01 | Xinhuan | or is it a multimap |
| 13:31.19 | foxlit | Unique keys. I occasionally want to update values associated with a key. |
| 13:31.46 | Xinhuan | so you essentially don't want to iterate over all existing keys to check if any are equal? |
| 13:31.54 | krka | why not just do: |
| 13:31.56 | Maldivia | foxlit: by making the keys immutable, you can safely grant access for retrieving keys |
| 13:32.18 | foxlit | Maldivia: I'm not concerned about someone stealing the map's keys and modifying them while I'm not looking :) |
| 13:32.30 | foxlit | It's a private map; it'd have to be me. |
| 13:33.10 | airtonix | better stop fisker before he makes it out the door with those keys |
| 13:33.28 | krka | no wait, that doesn't work... hm |
| 13:33.29 | Maldivia | well, if you want to create a similar set to what you've already used you'll have two option, scan through the keySet or keep a reference from the previous one, there aren't really any other ways to do that |
| 13:35.12 | foxlit | http://pastey.net/136776 |
| 13:36.43 | Xinhuan | i don't think there's a solution |
| 13:36.49 | krka | foxlit: another option is to only use immutable sets in your code |
| 13:37.37 | sylvanaar | how many sets are there roughly |
| 13:38.04 | sylvanaar | 10x4, 10x6? |
| 13:38.34 | foxlit | ^4 |
| 13:38.36 | krka | another option is to save an AtomicReference to the value, instead of the value directly |
| 13:38.44 | krka | then you can modify it without using map.put |
| 13:38.51 | Maldivia | foxlit: your issue is this "exFailedGoals.put(new HashSet(future), stateLevel);" <-- that you're creating a new set for the future, but if you know future is already in there, you don't have to create it, since it will not overwrite the key, only the value |
| 13:39.19 | foxlit | Hm, I was unaware of that second part of the behavior |
| 13:40.06 | krka | so you can do: if map.containsKey(future) { map.put(future, stateLevel); } else { map.put(new HashSet...} |
| 13:40.07 | foxlit | But you're right, it won't wipe the key |
| 13:40.22 | Maldivia | Map.put: If the map previously contained a mapping for the key, the old value is replaced. |
| 13:40.23 | foxlit | So containsKey should suffice; or even a not-null check on failedLevel. |
| 13:40.49 | Maldivia | yeah |
| 13:41.20 | foxlit | That works :) |
| 13:41.22 | sylvanaar | even if it did overwrite the key why would it matter again? since they are equal? |
| 13:42.15 | foxlit | It's just a matter of whether you have to create a new copy of the set |
| 13:42.40 | foxlit | If it changes the key stored in the map, you'd need to make sure that your new key isn't going to be modified, so you can't use future. |
| 13:43.05 | foxlit | If it doesn't change the key, you can use future directly if you're sure there's already a future-equivalent key in the map. |
| 13:43.58 | Maldivia | and since you already have checked if future is used as a key, with the map.get(future) line, that's as simple as: |
| 13:44.10 | foxlit | failedLevel == null ? new HashSet<Term>(future) : future |
| 13:44.21 | Maldivia | yep |
| 13:44.40 | Xinhuan | [5/22 20:54:43] <foxlit> But looks like you can't actually do it without iterating, which spoils the entire point. |
| 13:44.45 | Maldivia | (I would still advice you to wrap it in Collections.unmodifiableSet() though) |
| 13:44.46 | Xinhuan | i thought you wanted to avoid iterating |
| 13:44.56 | Xinhuan | which is essentially what containsKey() does |
| 13:45.02 | Maldivia | no it doesnt |
| 13:45.07 | foxlit | No. containsKey is a hashtable lookup on a map. |
| 13:45.21 | Xinhuan | by iterating, i meant a lookup |
| 13:45.38 | krka | why not just do: AtomicReference<Value> value = map.get(future); if value == null map.put(new hashset(future), new atomicreference(newvalue)); else atomicreference.set(newvalue); |
| 13:45.49 | Maldivia | well those things are wastelyu different :) |
| 13:46.32 | krka | how can you mean lookup by iterating? |
| 13:46.57 | Maldivia | krka: AtomicReference might be a bit overkill :) |
| 13:46.58 | Xinhuan | i assumed foxlit meant a lookup when he said iterating |
| 13:47.20 | Xinhuan | [5/22 20:52:52] <foxlit> I want to retrieve a... key... for a specific... key... from a HashMap :( |
| 13:47.27 | Xinhuan | he already said its a hash map |
| 13:48.16 | krka | why is it overkill? it's fairly lightweight |
| 13:48.27 | airtonix | lol |
| 13:49.03 | sylvanaar | containskey does iterate afaik |
| 13:49.43 | Xinhuan | its implementation dependant |
| 13:49.46 | krka | not for hashmaps |
| 13:49.59 | Maldivia | krka: yeah ok, if you just use the get/set method, then true |
| 13:50.41 | Maldivia | for a HashMap, containsKey is: return getEntry(key) != null; |
| 13:51.05 | krka | http://www.google.com/codesearch/p?hl=en#ybd8S83PG4Q/src/share/classes/java/util/HashMap.java&q=java%20hashmap.java&sa=N&cd=2&ct=rc&l=360 |
| 13:51.45 | sylvanaar | oh, it just tests get(key) != null |
| 13:52.01 | krka | sort of |
| 13:52.30 | Maldivia | it does, excelt get() throws NPE if key==null, getEntry doesn't |
| 13:52.30 | krka | weird that get() doesn't use getEntry though |
| 13:53.18 | krka | sun does use some really weird code |
| 13:53.27 | krka | why is getForNullKey even looping? |
| 13:53.41 | krka | oh right, chained |
| 13:54.17 | Maldivia | yeah, the null entry might no be the first in bucket[0] |
| 13:58.18 | krka | why not just have a specific field in the hashmap for the value mapped to null |
| 14:00.19 | Maldivia | well, null as a key doesn't really make sense to begin with, so.. |
| 14:01.21 | foxlit | wonder why they implemented HashSet using HashMap, rather than the other way around. |
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| 14:02.58 | teetow | hello, hivemind. I have some noob questions about fonts. bear with me. |
| 14:03.36 | teetow | I have a gazillion addons, and while most of them have their own font settings, it seems some of them play nicely with whatever default font I set. I'm not sure what makes this happen, but I have fontain and sharedmediaadditionalfonts installed. |
| 14:03.58 | teetow | BadKitty, however, doesn't. Would it be trivial for me to "fix" it? What should I look into? |
| 14:04.38 | haste | :SetFont() |
| 14:14.14 | Fisker | omg Antiarc |
| 14:14.15 | Fisker | omg jnwhiteh |
| 14:14.16 | Fisker | omg |
| 14:14.17 | Fisker | i came |
| 14:14.27 | Wobin | all over the froyo? |
| 14:14.47 | Fisker | yes |
| 14:15.48 | Fisker | need rom already |
| 14:19.12 | Fisker | i also rage |
| 14:20.16 | DWSR | teetow: Are you overriding the font for all SharedMedia-aware addons with Fontain? |
| 14:20.39 | DWSR | teetow: There is an option to do that, and I have it enabled. Anything using custom fonts is most likely SM-aware, and thus will use the font you've selected. |
| 14:21.09 | teetow | I just poked around in the BK code, and it looks like it's hard-coded to use fritz |
| 14:21.19 | teetow | I would like to change that if possible |
| 14:21.30 | teetow | but yes, I've enabled the option you mentioned in Fontain |
| 14:21.52 | DWSR | teetow: Just change the reference to the font to one that you want. |
| 14:22.11 | teetow | there's no way to make it conform to whatever I've set in Fontain, then? |
| 14:23.02 | DWSR | teetow: If you feel like hacking in SM support. |
| 14:23.10 | teetow | I'd like to give it a try |
| 14:23.31 | DWSR | If you get it working, submit a patch to the author and tell them they're fucking stupid for not doing it sooner. :) |
| 14:23.36 | teetow | haha |
| 14:23.54 | DWSR | Anyway, I haven't worked with SM before, so I can't help you |
| 14:24.11 | teetow | I'll get googling, thanks for the advice anyway =) |
| 14:25.45 | cbreak | what did they do to SC2 player names? |
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| 14:27.39 | Caleb| | they got rid of the identifier part |
| 14:28.22 | cbreak | I can't add my friends anymore |
| 14:28.25 | Fisker | points a gun at Antiarc |
| 14:28.36 | cbreak | I liked the identifiers :/ |
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| 14:29.27 | Caleb| | they need to accept your friend request cbreak |
| 14:29.39 | Caleb| | if they have trouble the friend request showing up, make them relog |
| 14:29.55 | Caleb| | s/the/with the/ |
| 14:29.56 | cbreak | I don't know their e-mail address |
| 14:30.29 | Caleb| | yeah its kinda bad that you have to share your bnet acc with others atm to add someone as friend |
| 14:30.51 | cbreak | yeah. I sure as hell won't tell mine to anyone. |
| 14:30.52 | Caleb| | or at least I haven't figured out how else to add someone whom you haven't played with |
| 14:31.08 | Wobin | what |
| 14:31.09 | Wobin | the |
| 14:31.10 | Wobin | hell |
| 14:31.11 | Wobin | http://thisiswhyyourefat.com/post/543931201/kfc-double-down-luther-sandwich-a-kfc-double-down |
| 14:31.15 | Wobin | why do people DO this? |
| 14:31.17 | Caleb| | thing is once they approve your request, they'll see your real name too |
| 14:31.44 | cbreak | Wobin: some people smoke, some people kill themselves with other means. |
| 14:32.12 | Wobin | cbreak, I can understand breathing tar into ones lungs in a way |
| 14:32.20 | Wobin | it's like normal pollution, but filtered |
| 14:32.29 | Wobin | but what kind of insanity comes up with -that- dish? |
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| 14:34.24 | cbreak | I wonder how I can block that crappy facebook stuff |
| 14:34.59 | Wobin | you'll have to be a little more specific |
| 14:35.08 | Fisker | if you enable it it simply scrapes all your friends and tells you if they have battle.net or not even if they didn't activate it themselves? |
| 14:36.17 | cbreak | I don't want blizzard to send my e-mail address to facebook to check if I have an acount there |
| 14:36.36 | cbreak | they aren't supposed to give it to anyone else. |
| 14:38.50 | Gintaro | don't use facebook |
| 14:38.52 | Gintaro | there fixed it |
| 14:39.36 | A-KO | hmm, has anyone here ever had a clumsy cat? |
| 14:39.49 | Gintaro | Have one right now |
| 14:39.53 | cbreak | I don't... |
| 14:40.03 | A-KO | my cat's clumsy she slips off of things sometimes, like she just loses her balance |
| 14:40.11 | Gintaro | Whenever it sleeps on the couch for extended periods of times she falls off |
| 14:40.25 | Gintaro | s/times/time/ |
| 14:40.27 | cbreak | but I don't trust blizzard to not send my e-mail address to them anyway to check |
| 14:40.52 | A-KO | I doubt Blizzard is sending FAcebook your bnet account info to FB unless you type it in |
| 14:43.43 | Fisker | Blizzard had sex with my mom because i added my facebook on SC2 |
| 14:43.43 | Fisker | :( |
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| 14:44.17 | Wobin | "Fisker's Mom is now in a relationship with Blizzard" |
| 14:44.30 | cbreak | ... Should you ever find out that blizzard is your father, don't fall in love with your twin sister... |
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| 14:50.08 | Wobin | holy crap |
| 14:50.09 | Wobin | This cycle is repeated until the boss is dead which resulted in a fight lasting 4 hours 45 minutes on my kill. |
| 14:51.09 | Fisker | oooooooold |
| 14:52.04 | Wobin | I hope they don't nerf the dig rat cause of this |
| 14:52.27 | Wobin | cause anyone that can do this for 5 hours, deserves to be able to =P |
| 14:52.50 | Fisker | can you even do it in naxx gear? |
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| 14:59.37 | Wobin | well you'd want enough gear to survive getting a hit from patchwerk in |
| 14:59.42 | Wobin | so maybe naxx25 |
| 15:00.19 | Wobin | I mean, the less dps you output, the longer the damn fight takes |
| 15:04.23 | Fisker | well i meant you won't get 100% dodge with naxx gear i think |
| 15:05.32 | zenzelezz | this was a rogue? |
| 15:05.44 | Wobin | I don't think he had 100% dodge |
| 15:05.55 | Wobin | cause he only ever engaged while under evasion |
| 15:06.09 | Wobin | http://www.mmo-champion.com/news-2/patchwerk-25-solo-kill-blue-posts/ |
| 15:06.49 | Wobin | he's ICC25 geared |
| 15:07.12 | Wobin | and 43% dodge |
| 15:09.31 | Fisker | not even 100% dodge then |
| 15:09.45 | Fisker | O_o |
| 15:10.35 | Wobin | that's unbuffed |
| 15:10.48 | Wobin | scroll of agi, agi food... |
| 15:11.07 | Wobin | drums, |
| 15:11.22 | Wobin | I mean he still got hit occasionally |
| 15:12.23 | Wobin | he used shadowmeld and vanish to get ooc |
| 15:12.23 | Fisker | yeah you can't get 100% to be missed i believe |
| 15:12.40 | Wobin | A very nice use of mechanics |
| 15:12.57 | Wobin | and definitely props for endurance |
| 15:14.09 | nevcairiel | I bet they'll fix that damn rat now :p |
| 15:14.27 | Wobin | hehe |
| 15:14.33 | Wobin | He shouldn't have called it Jiderstep |
| 15:14.40 | Wobin | he should have been more creative about it |
| 15:14.43 | Wobin | Ratstep |
| 15:14.50 | Wobin | HamsterDance |
| 15:17.31 | Mr_Rabies | there was an addon that checked if you had all spells in your spellbook on your bars, is that still around, or even possible anymore? |
| 15:17.59 | Wobin | heheh |
| 15:18.00 | Wobin | " |
| 15:18.00 | Wobin | Technically the rogue didn't kill patchwerk. All he did was kill 1/100th of Patchwerk every 3 minutes and repeated that 100 times." |
| 15:18.12 | Mr_Rabies | i just manually did it on my druid yesterday and it took forever manually :[ |
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| 15:18.31 | Wobin | why would you want all your spells on your bars? =( |
| 15:18.40 | Wobin | lrn2clique |
| 15:19.02 | Gintaro | The days of rogues tanking anything are over ever since MH |
| 15:19.03 | Wobin | also, I know of very few classes that use -all- their spells |
| 15:19.13 | Wobin | rogues are probably one of them |
| 15:19.21 | Gintaro | Rogues don't use everything! |
| 15:19.32 | Wobin | most of it |
| 15:19.54 | Gintaro | EA/Rupture/(SS/Mutilate)/Backstab/Ambush |
| 15:19.58 | Mr_Rabies | eh i stopped using click-on-unit frame casting addons back when the existing functionality of them was killed back in the day |
| 15:20.27 | Wobin | lrn2clique |
| 15:20.29 | Mr_Rabies | because when i couldn't for a few months until addons updated, it was like having to relearn how to play |
| 15:20.34 | Wobin | no really |
| 15:20.35 | Wobin | lrn2clique |
| 15:20.42 | Wobin | especially as a druid |
| 15:20.44 | Gintaro | Clique is an addon Mr_Rabies |
| 15:20.50 | Mr_Rabies | i know |
| 15:21.00 | Wobin | druids have so many stupid spells |
| 15:21.15 | Wobin | you -need- a click on unit frame casting system |
| 15:21.21 | Mr_Rabies | i'm saying way back when, when blizzard nuked a lot of addons, not having it after getting used to it sucked |
| 15:21.27 | Wobin | yes yes |
| 15:21.27 | Mr_Rabies | so i'd rather not be dependent |
| 15:21.28 | Gintaro | Or just [@mouseover] ? |
| 15:21.33 | Wobin | but you're coming back after a long while |
| 15:21.35 | Wobin | trust me |
| 15:21.37 | Wobin | lrn2clique |
| 15:22.06 | Wobin | how do you raid heal without unitframe clicking, anyway? |
| 15:22.14 | Mr_Rabies | I don't |
| 15:22.18 | Mr_Rabies | this durid is for fite |
| 15:22.20 | Wobin | how do you move while healing? |
| 15:22.40 | Mr_Rabies | but when i did it wasn't that hard at all |
| 15:22.49 | Wobin | what level did you do it? |
| 15:22.53 | Mr_Rabies | back in mc |
| 15:22.55 | Mr_Rabies | and bwl |
| 15:22.58 | Wobin | yeah |
| 15:22.59 | Wobin | k |
| 15:23.02 | Wobin | lrn2clique |
| 15:23.14 | Wobin | encounters have changed... rather a bit since then |
| 15:23.45 | Mr_Rabies | it's unlikely i will raid heal |
| 15:23.54 | Mr_Rabies | i might with the advent of dual spec but we'll see |
| 15:24.21 | Wobin | oh you will =P |
| 15:24.37 | Wobin | dual spec is pretty much a requirement for hybrids now |
| 15:25.02 | Wobin | You'll also want dual spec if you ever chain pug for badges |
| 15:25.10 | Wobin | cause god knows the dps queue is ridiculous |
| 15:25.21 | Wobin | and queuing as tanks or heals is much more efficient |
| 15:25.43 | Wobin | basically get your badges by healing your way to 80 |
| 15:25.44 | Mr_Rabies | how do you switch specs? |
| 15:25.50 | Wobin | it's a bought skill |
| 15:25.53 | Wobin | 1k gold |
| 15:25.55 | Mr_Rabies | i mean |
| 15:26.01 | Mr_Rabies | gotta be in town, or just out of combat? |
| 15:26.04 | Wobin | you press a button, essentially |
| 15:26.05 | Mr_Rabies | any cooldown? |
| 15:26.09 | Wobin | any time |
| 15:26.13 | Wobin | no cooldown |
| 15:26.18 | Wobin | it reduces your mana to zero though |
| 15:26.34 | Wobin | so switching between specs that don't use mana, just involves the cast time |
| 15:26.36 | Mr_Rabies | i might end up going cat/bear dualspec then, gah |
| 15:26.46 | Wobin | why gah? |
| 15:27.00 | Mr_Rabies | because it's crazy to have two specs in the same tree |
| 15:27.05 | Wobin | yes =) |
| 15:27.13 | Mr_Rabies | but i can't find a decent "middle of the road" anymore |
| 15:27.20 | Mr_Rabies | it seems the intent was for you to focus on one or the other |
| 15:27.20 | Wobin | and, as I said, dps queues are terrible |
| 15:27.36 | Wobin | why middle of the road at all? |
| 15:27.42 | Wobin | when you can have two focused specs? |
| 15:28.07 | cbreak | I am DPS/DPS dual spec |
| 15:28.21 | cbreak | I wish I could have a third spec for DPS though |
| 15:28.26 | cbreak | only two is a bit limiting :( |
| 15:29.11 | Mr_Rabies | because it used to be the case you could be a great bear or a great cat |
| 15:29.12 | Wobin | what class are you, cbreak? |
| 15:29.15 | zenzelezz | you think your spec problem is a big issue? Try being a warrior, I can NEVER use wands! |
| 15:29.20 | cbreak | I am a mage |
| 15:29.24 | zenzelezz | my weapon selection is so limited |
| 15:29.25 | Wobin | you have no choice =P |
| 15:29.34 | cbreak | I have |
| 15:29.37 | Mr_Rabies | i can't even use ranged weapons :( |
| 15:29.46 | Wobin | oh sorry, I forgot your mage heal spec =P |
| 15:29.48 | cbreak | I am Arcane at the moment, with a frost SoloHybrid spec |
| 15:29.54 | cbreak | as second |
| 15:30.01 | cbreak | but I'd like a Frost Boss Focus spec too |
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| 15:30.10 | Wobin | I'm saying you have no choice about being dual dps spec |
| 15:30.17 | cbreak | oh, yes, that's true |
| 15:30.22 | Wobin | with the whole 'being a mage' business |
| 15:30.36 | Wobin | Mr_Rabies has a choice with dps/heals or dps/tank |
| 15:30.44 | cbreak | but I have three talent trees, of which I only use two |
| 15:30.48 | cbreak | and still, there are many options |
| 15:30.48 | Wobin | dps/dps wouldn't be the best choice since he's still levelling |
| 15:31.01 | Wobin | that's fine |
| 15:31.02 | cbreak | leveling as dps works |
| 15:31.06 | Wobin | I'm not talking about trees |
| 15:31.11 | Wobin | I'm talking about functionality |
| 15:31.16 | cbreak | but I didn't do it in instances |
| 15:31.21 | cbreak | just soloing |
| 15:31.24 | Wobin | pugging as dps is much much slower than pugging as tanks/heals |
| 15:31.32 | cbreak | yeah :( |
| 15:31.39 | Wobin | and pugging the levels is much much faster than questing |
| 15:31.49 | Wobin | -and- you pool triumph badges |
| 15:31.49 | cbreak | since when? |
| 15:31.57 | Wobin | since lfd =P |
| 15:31.59 | cbreak | it was different back in the old days |
| 15:32.02 | Wobin | yes |
| 15:32.03 | cbreak | hmm. right. |
| 15:32.11 | Wobin | the old days |
| 15:32.12 | Wobin | you had to wait |
| 15:32.14 | Shirik | Your Linode, mpdelbuono, has exceeded the notification threshold (50) for CPU Usage by averaging 117.7% for the last 2 hours. |
| 15:32.15 | Wobin | for -ages- |
| 15:32.19 | Shirik | how the hell do you average 117% of CPU time? |
| 15:32.26 | Wobin | Shirik, working overtime |
| 15:32.42 | Wobin | now, if you're a tank or healer, you wait, at the maximum, 5min for a group |
| 15:32.45 | cbreak | Shirik: if you have more than one cpu, you can go over 1 |
| 15:32.46 | zenzelezz | either way, what do you do that takes so much CPU? |
| 15:32.53 | cbreak | I've had my computer on a load of 6 or so |
| 15:33.58 | Shirik | DWSR I don't know if you're on but my server needs to go down for a reboot so um |
| 15:33.59 | Shirik | bye |
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| 15:34.16 | cbreak | a ghost! |
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| 15:35.07 | cbreak | the ghost leveled up. scary. |
| 15:35.33 | Wobin | *ding* |
| 15:35.52 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
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| 15:51.51 | zenzelezz | http://punditkitchen.com/2010/05/21/political-pictures-fidel-castro-bridge-squeeze/ |
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| 15:55.28 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 15:55.29 | purl | ~pong |
| 15:55.40 | Shirik | I think I'm in so many channels I have trouble connecting, lol |
| 15:56.52 | zenzelezz | Shirik: how many channels? I think Kaelten or someone had that very problem |
| 15:57.15 | Shirik | um |
| 15:57.20 | Shirik | 46? >.> |
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| 15:59.44 | Mr_Rabies | gah finding suitable addons for what i want to do is a pain now, so many outdated, apparently broken addons :[ |
| 16:00.16 | zenzelezz | Shirik: think you'd be best off doing gradual joining then |
| 16:00.24 | Shirik | I don't think I can configure that |
| 16:00.37 | Shirik | fortunately I only reconnect like once every 2 months |
| 16:00.41 | zenzelezz | you mean you've found an IRC client that doesn't support scripting? |
| 16:00.49 | Shirik | well I use znc |
| 16:03.07 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 16:03.09 | Fisker | i F5 a lot |
| 16:03.16 | Shirik | ok |
| 16:03.18 | Shirik | i dont |
| 16:03.34 | Wobin | Shirik, are you active in all of them? |
| 16:03.46 | Shirik | not all of them are meant for speaking, but I do listen to all of them |
| 16:03.57 | Wobin | you sir is crazy |
| 16:04.02 | Shirik | most of them are bot run channels |
| 16:04.32 | zenzelezz | surely you can botnet on another connection |
| 16:04.47 | Wobin | night all |
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| 16:23.00 | Fisker | Shirik |
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| 16:27.33 | Fisker | time gentlemen |
| 16:31.28 | ScytheBlade1 | half past ten |
| 16:32.17 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 16:34.58 | sylvanaar | oh hey my gs says 'win' now, i can stop pressing F5 |
| 16:38.14 | Mr_Rabies | bleh back to default bags it is :[ |
| 16:41.52 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=13200309782&sid=1#9 <-troll'd? |
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| 17:06.54 | Lothaer | whats the best forum to request translations in? |
| 17:10.30 | cbreak | translations? |
| 17:11.08 | Lothaer | mod translations enUS - deDE etc etc |
| 17:11.28 | Lothaer | locals |
| 17:13.26 | zenzelezz | hm, scammers using wow-eu.net now |
| 17:13.30 | zenzelezz | I could see people falling for that |
| 17:14.18 | Lothaer | watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGnfKnfY6EM and ask yourselves what would you do if this was your kid? |
| 17:15.47 | Fisker | slaps zenzelezz around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:16.31 | Lothaer | rofl |
| 17:18.02 | Fisker | slaps Lothaer around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:18.41 | Lothaer | OI Fisker |
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| 17:22.38 | Lothaer | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGnfKnfY6EM |
| 17:22.40 | Lothaer | watch it |
| 17:23.14 | Fisker | already did |
| 17:23.56 | Lothaer | if she was my kid she get a good kick up the arse for doing that lol |
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| 17:29.29 | Fisker | definitely reported for child abuse Lothaer |
| 17:30.50 | Lothaer | lol |
| 17:31.14 | Lothaer | figure of speech mate |
| 17:32.39 | Fisker | reported for figure of speech-abuse |
| 17:33.46 | Lothaer | reported for reporting |
| 17:35.21 | zenzelezz | this sounds just like trade chat when I started playing WoW |
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| 17:36.25 | Lothaer | lol |
| 17:36.37 | Lothaer | Chuck Norris can slam revolving doors |
| 17:41.01 | nevcairiel | cant you? |
| 17:42.18 | Lothaer | American historians dont want you to know this but the real reason why the Union beat the Confederates was Chuck Norris |
| 17:42.46 | Kalroth | It is very easy to slam revolving doors, just place Fisker in the opening |
| 17:43.27 | Lothaer | ROFLMAO!!! |
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| 17:50.37 | Fisker | why don't i have froyo yet Kalroth ? |
| 17:51.28 | Kalroth | You have to earn it |
| 17:52.53 | zenzelezz | No Froyo fo' yo, fool |
| 17:57.19 | Fisker | zenzelezz |
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| 17:58.12 | Fisker | slaps Cide around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:58.41 | Cide | ty |
| 17:59.14 | Fisker | np |
| 17:59.29 | zenzelezz | low-level cloaks shouldn't be called cloaks... they should be called something like scarves, or neck-handkerchiefs |
| 17:59.55 | Cide | aasda |
| 17:59.58 | Cide | oops. |
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| 18:00.25 | Cide- | oops x2 |
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| 18:03.22 | Torhal | zenzelezz: ascots |
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| 18:13.34 | Fisker | i know how i can get Froyo Kalroth |
| 18:13.41 | Kalroth | I know too |
| 18:13.48 | Fisker | i just have to bruteforce it |
| 18:13.53 | Fisker | only 4 billion url combinations to try |
| 18:17.47 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=13517554291&sid=1#2 <-/facepalm |
| 18:18.46 | Thunder_Child | duck duck duck duck Fisker |
| 18:19.04 | Fisker | bitchduck |
| 18:23.58 | cogwheel | RAWR |
| 18:24.00 | cogwheel | FISKER |
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| 18:24.31 | Fisker | cogwheel |
| 18:25.05 | cogwheel | McRuns McCircles around fisker's McMom |
| 18:25.24 | Cide | McMom... ouch |
| 18:25.46 | Torhal | thinks it's Fisker's SIGFAULT. |
| 18:25.55 | Cide | or should I say.. mCouch |
| 18:26.05 | Fisker | cogwheel |
| 18:26.10 | Fisker | i fucked your dad last night |
| 18:26.15 | cogwheel | ohai Torhal how's your tongue? |
| 18:26.17 | cogwheel | XD |
| 18:26.27 | Torhal | is confused. |
| 18:26.41 | cogwheel | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=188437&postcount=2 |
| 18:26.44 | Torhal | Oh |
| 18:26.47 | Torhal | It got better |
| 18:26.51 | Fisker | slaps cogwheel around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:27.38 | tem | Anyone figured out how to use the armory AH on a toon other than your main yet? |
| 18:27.38 | Torhal | kneecaps Fisker with frozen yogurt. |
| 18:28.08 | zenzelezz | I'd be more worried if he swallowed someone else's tongue |
| 18:28.25 | Torhal | That would be worrisome. |
| 18:29.31 | Fisker | what if my main is my alt tem ? |
| 18:29.56 | tem | Fisker, that's sort of an oxymoron, isn't it? |
| 18:30.11 | Torhal | tem: Where it says "You are logged in as" in the upper-right corner. Click the icon next to that. |
| 18:30.23 | Fisker | that what your mom called you yesterday tem |
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| 18:30.33 | Fisker | hey foxlit |
| 18:30.38 | Fisker | give me froyo or give me death |
| 18:30.40 | tem | hmm, those buttons do nothing for me |
| 18:30.45 | tem | I wonder if this thing is broken on chrome |
| 18:30.57 | Torhal | I'm using Chrome |
| 18:31.01 | Torhal | Well, Chromium. |
| 18:31.16 | Fisker | eww chromium |
| 18:31.24 | tem | if I click the name, it takes me to the character's page |
| 18:31.34 | tem | if I click achievement points, it takes me to their ach page |
| 18:31.37 | cogwheel | tem: when you hover over the icon it shows a drop-down with a "More Characters" link |
| 18:31.42 | Torhal | Then from there you'll have an Auction House tab at the top |
| 18:31.53 | cogwheel | http://www.wowarmory.com/vault/character-select.xml |
| 18:31.54 | Torhal | Oh hell |
| 18:32.03 | Torhal | It just switched back when I clicked the AH tab |
| 18:32.06 | Torhal | WTF? |
| 18:32.19 | Torhal | Ah |
| 18:32.26 | tem | see? |
| 18:32.27 | Torhal | I have to log out form that toon? |
| 18:32.44 | Torhal | I'm confused as to how this is supposed to work, considering I logged in using my battle.net ID |
| 18:32.44 | tem | cogwheel, the buttons in the vault do nothing for me as well |
| 18:32.46 | tem | which is cool |
| 18:32.54 | cogwheel | the + next to the name |
| 18:32.59 | cogwheel | sets them as your primary character |
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| 18:33.05 | cogwheel | and then when you go to the AH it should work |
| 18:33.08 | cogwheel | (just did for me) |
| 18:33.09 | tem | yeah, that litterally does nothing for me |
| 18:33.37 | tem | chrome says it's a javascript link |
| 18:33.42 | tem | but nothing happens when I click it |
| 18:34.08 | tem | cogwheel, what browser are you using? |
| 18:34.13 | cogwheel | chrome |
| 18:34.15 | Torhal | I can select my Priest, and it will switch to his page, but it still says I am logged in as my Warlock |
| 18:34.17 | tem | hrm |
| 18:34.18 | cogwheel | might be dev channel |
| 18:34.32 | cogwheel | yeah 5.0.375.55 beta |
| 18:34.46 | Torhal | I'm using 6.0.408.1 |
| 18:35.16 | mikma | liar! |
| 18:35.21 | cogwheel | the "you're logged in as" is whatever you've "pinned" as your main character i think |
| 18:35.45 | Torhal | So that would have to be changed in order to use the AH from another toon |
| 18:36.10 | cogwheel | no |
| 18:36.32 | cogwheel | after doing "make this your primary character" the AH showed up for her (shadowcog) even though it said i was logged in as cogwheel |
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| 18:37.03 | cogwheel | or wait |
| 18:37.11 | cogwheel | i lied |
| 18:37.13 | Fisker | you know what i did cogwheel ? |
| 18:37.23 | cogwheel | when i said designate as primary character, it did change to you are logged in as ... |
| 18:37.31 | Torhal | I thought so |
| 18:37.33 | Torhal | :D |
| 18:38.03 | Fisker | i will destroy you cogwheel |
| 18:38.32 | mikma | http://www.srware.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=1482&sid=296076557c2e4515fabc4ac66cad3e8b |
| 18:38.33 | Torhal | Now - I don't see where to change primary characters from wowarmory |
| 18:38.35 | mikma | <3 |
| 18:38.37 | cogwheel | man they REALLY need to add buy orders |
| 18:38.42 | cogwheel | now that there's the armory AH |
| 18:38.52 | mikma | cogwheel: seeh mah linkh |
| 18:39.09 | Torhal | Ah, the plus sign |
| 18:39.11 | Torhal | Got it |
| 18:39.41 | cogwheel | mikma: lol y? |
| 18:39.43 | Torhal | And I have the same problem tem has |
| 18:40.17 | Torhal | The plus sign does nothing. Chrome says its link is javascript:void(0) and clicking it does nada |
| 18:40.25 | cogwheel | odd |
| 18:40.36 | mikma | cogwheel: yes, srs! |
| 18:40.47 | mikma | cogwheel: i hearts iron |
| 18:41.25 | mikma | cogwheel: http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_chrome_vs_iron.php |
| 18:41.32 | cogwheel | yeah reading that now |
| 18:42.03 | cogwheel | none of that bothers me |
| 18:42.08 | cogwheel | (and some of it i prefer) |
| 18:42.48 | cogwheel | I for one welcome our information overlords |
| 18:42.58 | mikma | obviously you dont surf any kinky hardcore porn! |
| 18:43.03 | cbreak | my favorite metal is tungsten. |
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| 18:44.25 | cogwheel | that was my favorite palm |
| 18:44.30 | cogwheel | T5 |
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| 18:45.13 | Seerah | Antiarc: I'm checking out wowqu.com finally - nice! :) would you prefer I post a suggestion/bug/nitpicky thing on the getsatisfaction page? |
| 18:45.21 | cogwheel | mikma: i have a wife and dreams for that ;) |
| 18:46.42 | zenzelezz | so tempted to make joke about wife and porn |
| 18:49.45 | mikma | cogwheel: sure, sure! |
| 18:52.28 | tem | cogwheel, I just installed the dev channel |
| 18:52.30 | tem | no change for me |
| 18:52.43 | tem | the GOGGLES/plus sign does nothing |
| 18:52.47 | cogwheel | you clicked the "Designate as primary character"? |
| 18:53.04 | tem | the up arrows also do nothing |
| 18:53.13 | cogwheel | no idea :| |
| 18:53.18 | cogwheel | you on win7 64? |
| 18:53.22 | tem | yes |
| 18:53.26 | cogwheel | -_- |
| 18:53.29 | tem | I just disabled adblock |
| 18:53.32 | cogwheel | h8 computers |
| 18:53.32 | tem | aaaaand it fixed it |
| 18:53.39 | tem | D: |
| 18:53.40 | cogwheel | i have adblock on >< |
| 18:55.55 | Seerah | Antiarc: nvm - posted :) |
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| 19:09.41 | krka | did you pass this round foxlit? |
| 19:09.47 | foxlit | Yes. |
| 19:10.11 | krka | cool! |
| 19:10.33 | foxlit | Though curse you, C. I spent the last 1.5 hours trying to figure out what went wrong there; and it was a trivial but pervasive problem in my notes :( |
| 19:10.34 | krka | wow, you have really fast A |
| 19:10.47 | foxlit | It might actually have been the first. |
| 19:10.50 | krka | C was awful :/ |
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| 19:11.51 | foxlit | krka: http://pastey.net/136789 |
| 19:12.24 | foxlit | Unfortunately, I had len-1 instead of num-1 there; but the results matched what I thought they should be. |
| 19:13.17 | cogwheel | qu'est-ce que c'est? |
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| 19:17.52 | Fisker | Antiarc |
| 19:17.53 | Fisker | jnwhiteh |
| 19:17.57 | Fisker | frooooooooooooooooooooooyoooooooooooooooooo |
| 19:18.05 | Fisker | http://android.clients.google.com/packages/passion/signed-passion-FRF50-from-ERE27.1e519a24.zip |
| 19:18.26 | cogwheel | y dun u luff me? |
| 19:18.52 | Fisker | vidi veni |
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| 19:29.37 | Fisker | i'm froyoing cog|away |
| 19:30.01 | alestane | That doesn't sound like something to be proud of. |
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| 19:32.44 | Fisker | you can't froyo on command alestane |
| 19:33.38 | Cloudwolf | >.> a rogue soloed patchwerk 25 man thats only really scary. |
| 19:34.07 | krka | foxlit: wait, you did all problems in lua? |
| 19:34.24 | foxlit | Primarily, yes. |
| 19:34.57 | krka | cool |
| 19:35.10 | foxlit | All problems in that round, anyhow. There are a few C solutions for the qualifier, but that was mostly silly |
| 19:35.14 | krka | i used java for the IDE support |
| 19:35.46 | krka | maybe lua is better though... hm |
| 19:35.59 | krka | except for biginteger-problems |
| 19:36.34 | foxlit | I found http://penlight.luaforge.net/packages/lbc.html |
| 19:37.07 | krka | sure, with a bunch of libraries it's easier :) |
| 19:37.13 | krka | i wonder if that's as good as BigInteger in java |
| 19:37.27 | krka | with gcd and modulo and all that |
| 19:37.37 | nevcairiel | isnt BigInteger in java just a string with some operators? |
| 19:37.43 | krka | nope |
| 19:38.12 | foxlit | I think the idea is that they behave exactly as Lua's native numbers would |
| 19:38.36 | foxlit | Meaning if you can take a modulo of two numbers, you could take a modulo of two bignums. |
| 19:38.42 | foxlit | It probably won't do gcd for you |
| 19:41.12 | krka | that's the advantage of BigInteger i guess |
| 19:41.34 | foxlit | Advantage of having a code library anyway |
| 19:42.49 | foxlit | The main plus point for java would be that it has already implemented relatively efficient priority queues and stuff. |
| 19:54.53 | Matsy | They should make the Google Colllection Framework to support BigInts though |
| 19:55.25 | Matsy | *Guava, actually |
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| 20:03.32 | krka | Matsy: what do you mean? that's missing from BigInt that need additional support from Guava? |
| 20:08.34 | Matsy | Well, I do tend to use the saturatedCast function a lot. |
| 20:09.04 | Matsy | And, I'd assume that there isn't some kind of Lexicographical Comparator for BigIntegers as well |
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| 20:11.52 | krka | isn't that trivial to write? a.toString().compareTo(b.toString() |
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| 20:12.47 | Matsy | toString and compareTo are pretty 'expensive' functions. |
| 20:13.41 | krka | why do you even want lexicographical comparator btw? |
| 20:14.47 | Matsy | For one, it would be great to compute permutations. |
| 20:15.07 | Cide | just use strings then? |
| 20:15.27 | Matsy | You don't really want to use Strings on mathematical algorithms |
| 20:15.32 | Matsy | Especially not in Java. |
| 20:15.40 | Cide | you don't really need permutations on mathematical algorithms |
| 20:15.47 | Matsy | Yeah, you do? |
| 20:15.51 | Cide | rarely |
| 20:15.59 | Matsy | I've had my share of occasions. |
| 20:16.22 | Cide | if you need to work with big integers, permuting that big numbers won't do you much good |
| 20:16.49 | Cide | unless you have very few of them, in which case they might as well be strings |
| 20:16.53 | Cide | can you give a use case? |
| 20:17.17 | Matsy | For the use of permutations? Or the use of permutations at BigIntegers? |
| 20:17.23 | Cide | the latter |
| 20:18.28 | Matsy | Can't say I can give you a use case right now. |
| 20:18.35 | Cide | didn't think so :) |
| 20:18.43 | Matsy | Just saying that Guava should go broader than primitives :) |
| 20:19.34 | Cide | no experience with guava so can't help you there |
| 20:20.10 | Matsy | Guava just adds a lot of nifty features to primitives, that non-primitives like BigIntegers / BigDecimals can't really have any profit of. |
| 20:21.52 | Cide | unrelated: puck in heroes of newerth. awesome. |
| 20:22.49 | Matsy | Newerth? |
| 20:22.54 | krka | are you talking about this? http://guava-libraries.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/javadoc/com/google/common/primitives/Longs.html#lexicographicalComparator() |
| 20:22.55 | Cide | a game |
| 20:23.01 | Matsy | Yeah, krka |
| 20:23.04 | krka | because that's also trivial to implement with biginteger |
| 20:23.12 | Matsy | Sure, it would be? |
| 20:23.26 | Matsy | But the whole idea of using libraries is to not having to implement such trivial features. |
| 20:24.03 | krka | actually, that comparator is only there because it couldn't use generics |
| 20:24.14 | krka | and that primitives doesn't have methods |
| 20:24.29 | krka | not sure what you're missing really |
| 20:25.13 | Matsy | You know that they're not just adding to primitives, but also to their related classes |
| 20:25.38 | Matsy | Such as Long / Double / Integer as opposed to long, double / int |
| 20:26.02 | krka | http://guava-libraries.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/javadoc/com/google/common/collect/Ordering.html wouldn't that work? |
| 20:26.55 | Matsy | http://guava-libraries.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/src/com/google/common/primitives/Longs.java |
| 20:26.57 | Matsy | I'd prefer looking at that |
| 20:26.59 | Matsy | and yeah |
| 20:27.00 | Matsy | just remaking it |
| 20:27.14 | Matsy | Their asList() function looks.. compilcated |
| 20:27.17 | Matsy | complicated |
| 20:27.41 | krka | Ordering.natural().lexicographical() sounds like what you want |
| 20:27.41 | Matsy | As in, overly complicated for the.. duty |
| 20:27.55 | Matsy | Yeah, that should be it. |
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| 20:33.51 | Fisker | Ackis my friend |
| 20:34.04 | A-KO | In 2009, spam made up 88 percent of all email observed by Symantec. |
| 20:34.05 | A-KO | lol |
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| 20:34.31 | cbreak | Symantec should not post their E-Mail addresses where it can be crawled |
| 20:34.50 | alestane | One of my texts said that "UCE" made up about 3/4 of e-mail traffic, and that was a few years ago. |
| 20:34.52 | cbreak | I don't get much spam, because I make a new e-mail address for every peer, and I am careful who I give them to |
| 20:41.06 | Fisker | om nom nom cbreak |
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| 20:44.58 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 20:45.28 | Fisker | one question remains |
| 20:51.38 | Thunder_Child | 42 |
| 20:53.15 | Fisker | oh |
| 20:56.18 | alestane | Any events I need to keep track of changes to a unit's buffs and debuffs other than UNIT_AURA? |
| 20:56.35 | Fisker | I don't know but i have frozen yoghurt |
| 20:56.37 | Fisker | what about you? |
| 20:56.45 | alestane | Wintgreen candy pieces. |
| 20:56.49 | alestane | Wintergreen* |
| 20:57.06 | Hjalte | Fisker: Did you get the Flash 10.1 beta as well? |
| 20:58.02 | Fisker | not automatically no |
| 20:58.22 | Hjalte | Go get it and tell me how something like the dr.dk live player does. |
| 20:59.46 | Fisker | got a link? |
| 20:59.49 | Fisker | The one i found is not flash |
| 21:00.19 | Hjalte | http://tinyurl.com/22todao |
| 21:00.23 | Hjalte | Is that it? |
| 21:00.51 | Fisker | i guess+ |
| 21:00.54 | Hjalte | You need to do it all on your phone though |
| 21:01.01 | Antiarc | Fisker: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686605 |
| 21:01.13 | Fisker | old |
| 21:01.20 | Fisker | been running it for a few hours now |
| 21:01.33 | Fisker | hence the pings :P |
| 21:02.47 | Antiarc | ah, good |
| 21:02.49 | Antiarc | any problems? |
| 21:03.03 | Fisker | not yet |
| 21:03.11 | Antiarc | Just about to flash mine |
| 21:03.39 | Fisker | i found it Hjalte |
| 21:03.40 | Fisker | slideshow |
| 21:04.46 | Hjalte | I remember reading that the some build of the flash player wasn't yet hardware accelerated. I wonder if that counts for this version as well. |
| 21:06.11 | Fisker | bitchcats |
| 21:07.37 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 21:08.35 | Fisker | runs ok on lowest quality Hjalte |
| 21:08.40 | Fisker | or smooth actually |
| 21:09.02 | Hjalte | Is that the live stream or some of their flash news stories? |
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| 21:09.34 | Fisker | i'm watching barnaby |
| 21:10.27 | Fisker | trying to see if it runs in medium quality |
| 21:10.47 | Fisker | it does |
| 21:11.10 | Fisker | does start to feel kinda sluggish in some areas |
| 21:11.30 | Fisker | but watchable |
| 21:11.41 | Hjalte | Fisker: I just noticed they have launched a new flash VOD player. |
| 21:11.55 | Hjalte | That's pretty good, if it runs as well. |
| 21:12.27 | Fisker | well you can use medium and down pretty fine |
| 21:12.39 | Fisker | high quality 1000kbit/s is a slideshow |
| 21:13.00 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 21:13.08 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 21:13.11 | Hjalte | I'd like a N1 now. If not for anything else than show all the æble lovers what it can do with Flash. |
| 21:14.01 | Fisker | ekstrabladet is funny though |
| 21:14.13 | Hjalte | They've got flash video as well, yes? |
| 21:14.13 | Fisker | totally blowing Google's Apple references out of proportion |
| 21:14.44 | Hjalte | Oh. I see the article now. |
| 21:14.51 | Fisker | in my opinion they were busier ridiculing Android for not being "internet-aware" enough |
| 21:14.52 | Hjalte | That's not what I remember from Google I/O. |
| 21:15.06 | Shirik | ha |
| 21:15.07 | Fisker | i don't ever recall them making a reference at the 1984 apple ads either |
| 21:15.07 | Shirik | just got this email |
| 21:15.10 | Shirik | Dear Matthew, |
| 21:15.11 | Shirik | An asteroid is hurtling toward our media system, and its name is Comcast. |
| 21:15.25 | Shirik | I'm sitting here like "no shit" |
| 21:15.31 | Thunder_Child | thats kinda creepy |
| 21:16.15 | Fisker | ~seen ackis |
| 21:16.18 | purl | ackis is currently on #waruidev #sc2mapster #wowuidev #arl #wowace #curseforge #wowwiki. Has said a total of 55 messages. Is idling for 1d 4h 23m 49s, last said: 'meh blizzard spending the time and resources to "defeat" this addon is about the same as them putting the effort into the voice chat system... just silly and a waste of resources'. |
| 21:16.23 | Fisker | i hate that Ackis guy |
| 21:16.24 | Fisker | always afk |
| 21:17.44 | Fisker | btw Antiarc |
| 21:17.54 | Fisker | have you seen if any of the new marketplace/push to phone stuff is active yet? |
| 21:18.38 | Hjalte | http://code.google.com/p/chrometophone/ |
| 21:18.43 | Hjalte | Just noticed the link in another channel |
| 21:20.44 | Hjalte | Fisker, Antiarc: ^ |
| 21:21.31 | Fisker | i came right there |
| 21:21.50 | Fisker | now they just need to update the marketplace |
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| 21:34.31 | Fisker | ~seen Ackis |
| 21:34.32 | purl | ackis is currently on #waruidev #sc2mapster #wowuidev #arl #wowace #curseforge #wowwiki. Has said a total of 55 messages. Is idling for 1d 4h 42m 3s, last said: 'meh blizzard spending the time and resources to "defeat" this addon is about the same as them putting the effort into the voice chat system... just silly and a waste of resources'. |
| 21:34.49 | Fisker | ~seen Ackis |
| 21:34.50 | purl | ackis is currently on #waruidev #sc2mapster #wowuidev #arl #wowace #curseforge #wowwiki. Has said a total of 55 messages. Is idling for 1d 4h 42m 21s, last said: 'meh blizzard spending the time and resources to "defeat" this addon is about the same as them putting the effort into the voice chat system... just silly and a waste of resources'. |
| 21:34.53 | Fisker | ~seen Ackis |
| 21:34.53 | purl | i haven't seen 'ackis ', Fisker |
| 21:34.56 | Fisker | ~seen Ackis  |
| 21:34.57 | purl | Fisker: i haven't seen 'ackis  ' |
| 21:35.05 | Fisker | ~seen Ackis |
| 21:35.05 | purl | ackis is currently on #waruidev #sc2mapster #wowuidev #arl #wowace #curseforge #wowwiki. Has said a total of 55 messages. Is idling for 1d 4h 42m 36s, last said: 'meh blizzard spending the time and resources to "defeat" this addon is about the same as them putting the effort into the voice chat system... just silly and a waste of resources'. |
| 21:35.15 | Fisker | ooh |
| 21:35.16 | Fisker | no EDI |
| 21:36.03 | Fisker | i didn't kill my wife btw |
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| 21:39.26 | Shirik | !quote KICK #wowuidev Fisker |
| 21:39.27 | *** kick/#wowuidev [Fisker!~Shiibot@WoWUIDev/Nospam] by EDI (Fisker) |
| 21:39.27 | batbot | Shirik, kick has not said anything with your given pattern. |
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| 21:40.00 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di3w1yV4Ehg |
| 21:40.04 | Fisker | i didn't kill your wife Shirik |
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| 21:45.54 | Fisker | did you kill my wife Iriel ? |
| 21:48.21 | Iriel | I did not, as far as I know. |
| 21:48.28 | Iriel | I did, however, just become Loremaster Iriel |
| 21:48.34 | Cide | congrats! |
| 21:48.45 | Thunder_Child | ah, so you would know who killed Fiskers wife then |
| 21:48.47 | Shirik | why |
| 21:48.51 | Shirik | would you put yourself to that |
| 21:48.59 | Iriel | I think Fisker's wife is in a hut in the barrens somewhere |
| 21:49.11 | Shirik | odamn |
| 21:49.35 | Iriel | Shirik: I've been playing since launch, it seemed like I should go find all the stuff I hadn't gotten around to before they blow it all to hell |
| 21:50.49 | Shirik | eh? |
| 21:51.08 | Fisker | i fucked your sons dog Shirik |
| 21:51.59 | Thunder_Child | to much there Fisker |
| 21:52.22 | zenzelezz | http://zenzelezz.net/images/random/l2write.jpg - intriguing debate on writing |
| 21:52.26 | Fisker | +information? |
| 21:52.30 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di3w1yV4Ehg |
| 21:53.06 | Fisker | druids zenzelezz |
| 21:53.24 | zenzelezz | was really the "l2write" part that made me chuckle |
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| 22:02.08 | cbreak | oh my god |
| 22:02.38 | cbreak | I got classed as silver division |
| 22:02.55 | cbreak | by losing all 5 matches |
| 22:07.55 | Cide | silver is second to worst |
| 22:08.27 | Cide | so I guess they use another measurement besides win/lose |
| 22:09.38 | Shirik | ? |
| 22:09.40 | Shirik | third to worst |
| 22:10.16 | Thunder_Child | plat/gold/silver? |
| 22:10.17 | Cide | they removed copper |
| 22:10.23 | Cide | silver/gold/plat/diamond |
| 22:10.25 | Cide | err |
| 22:10.26 | Cide | bronze/silver/gold/plat/diamond |
| 22:10.30 | Shirik | orly |
| 22:10.33 | Cide | yep |
| 22:10.41 | Shirik | lol diamond |
| 22:10.44 | Shirik | how do we get in there cide? |
| 22:10.48 | Cide | we play games |
| 22:10.50 | Cide | ! |
| 22:10.55 | Cide | instead of not playing |
| 22:10.57 | Cide | imho |
| 22:11.12 | zenzelezz | I think Cide is onto something there |
| 22:11.24 | zenzelezz | face it Shirik, you can't regexp your way up the ladder |
| 22:11.43 | Shirik | backtracks up the ladder |
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| 22:12.31 | Cide | Shirik vandalizes the ladder |
| 22:12.38 | Thunder_Child | i wonder whos bright idea it was to put in a gem with all the metals |
| 22:12.53 | Cide | whoever realized that there are no better metals to use |
| 22:13.33 | Cide | but they should have just scaled the algorithm to make the entry requirements for each league steeper |
| 22:15.04 | cbreak | they should just let me chose the league. |
| 22:15.41 | cbreak | there are many metals that are more valuable than platinum |
| 22:15.53 | cbreak | many of them are even radioactive |
| 22:15.53 | Cide | not in the sense they're going after |
| 22:15.59 | Cide | it's not market price |
| 22:16.16 | zenzelezz | cbreak: plutonium and uranium league just don't have the same ring to them |
| 22:16.27 | cbreak | tungsten? :) |
| 22:16.27 | Thunder_Child | but if they removed copper they should have just shifted it and removed diamond |
| 22:16.35 | zenzelezz | I for one HATE the name "tungsten" |
| 22:16.39 | zenzelezz | what was wrong with "wolfram"? |
| 22:17.17 | Cide | The name "tungsten" (from the Nordic tung sten, meaning "heavy stone") |
| 22:17.37 | Cide | Tungsten was the old Swedish name for the mineral scheelite |
| 22:17.38 | Cide | yesss |
| 22:17.43 | Cide | go sweden |
| 22:17.55 | zenzelezz | yes, and what's so good about that? There are about 100 other elements with nonsensical names, but they get to keep them |
| 22:17.59 | cbreak | I use tungsten because some americans I spoke to didn't understand wolfram |
| 22:18.40 | Cide | because if we change back now the authors of mathematica might get angry, clearly |
| 22:18.49 | zenzelezz | screw them |
| 22:18.58 | Cide | I find wolfram to be a better name also |
| 22:19.02 | Cide | mostly because the symbol is W |
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| 22:19.17 | Cide | funnily, it's called Volfram in swedish |
| 22:19.31 | Shirik | ha |
| 22:19.33 | Cide | despite a swede coming up with Tungsten, which is used internationally |
| 22:19.34 | Shirik | awesome email footer: |
| 22:19.45 | zenzelezz | I don't know what the official name is here, but many people at least use wolfram |
| 22:19.51 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/136804 |
| 22:19.57 | Cide | yeah, I guess it varies |
| 22:21.27 | cbreak | It's wolfram in german too |
| 22:22.53 | sylvanaar | what do you guys use for filtering out repeated message spam |
| 22:25.43 | alestane | lua> string.match("|A|B|", "^|?(.+)|?$") |
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| 22:26.09 | alestane | ~AWOL lua_bot |
| 22:28.43 | Cide | when shall we play then Shirik?! |
| 22:30.30 | Shirik | when I get settled in |
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| 22:35.54 | Cide | ok |
| 22:35.57 | Cide | you have 7 days! |
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| 23:07.21 | Legorol | Cide: ping |
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| 23:10.00 | Cide | pong |
| 23:41.41 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8nZK8jacMg&hd=1 \o/ |
| 23:42.54 | *** join/#wowuidev myrkraverk (~johann@unaffiliated/myrkraverk) |
| 23:43.24 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: totems show up on the minimap? |
| 23:43.38 | Arrowmaster | or are you doing some serious hackery |
| 23:44.12 | Cloudwolf | wont that end up being broken along with avr? |
| 23:44.23 | Cloudwolf | or does that use different methods? |
| 23:46.03 | Arrowmaster | completely different methods |
| 23:46.48 | Cloudwolf | k |
| 23:46.55 | Antiarc | Arrowmaster: Hackery |
| 23:47.00 | Antiarc | Have you seen my other hudmap videos? |
| 23:47.06 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 23:47.10 | Antiarc | Same concept |
| 23:47.44 | Arrowmaster | your others seemed simple though, since the player positions are easy to know |
| 23:48.58 | *** join/#wowuidev Antiarc-phone (~AndChat@ip70-190-192-186.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 23:48.58 | Cloudwolf | take co-ords of a location when the totem spell is activated? checkk which spell to base ranged on and then compare it to your position? |
| 23:49.07 | Antiarc-phone | Basically, yes |
| 23:49.41 | foxlit | But that'd be slightly inaccurate since totems don't land directly beneath you. |
| 23:49.53 | Antiarc-phone | Not too complex given hudmap's framework |
| 23:49.56 | Arrowmaster | got a big table of stuff like AVR had for race/gender sizes or do the totems always drop a set distance away from the player in a set direction? |
| 23:50.00 | Antiarc-phone | I account for that |
| 23:50.19 | Cloudwolf | I was going to say it seems totems always drop ina set position |
| 23:50.47 | Cloudwolf | fire front left earth front right water back left air back right or something like that |
| 23:50.57 | Antiarc-phone | I only tested draenei, but that is about 2.9 yards |
| 23:51.03 | Antiarc-phone | They do |
| 23:51.15 | Zyn- | Blizzard are breaking the Camera API in the way that you can no longer return its values, which is a must for AVR to function in order to draw the shapes ... Antiarc's HudMap is not poking around with the camera in any way |
| 23:51.36 | Cloudwolf | Zyn that was already answered but ty |
| 23:51.43 | Antiarc-phone | I have a method to test ranges with if a tauren is available |
| 23:51.51 | Zyn- | dorp |
| 23:52.16 | Zyn- | am currently boosting my own RAF-characters so I'm hardly following any conversations ;< |
| 23:52.19 | Nechckn | Antiarc have you heard back from anyone if that is too close to what they did not like? |
| 23:52.27 | Cloudwolf | Sorry im an alliance noob lol |
| 23:53.03 | Antiarc-phone | I have reason to believe that they don't have a problem with it |
| 23:53.11 | Cloudwolf | Nechckn the issue with AVR was mostly AVRE in which it could show the location you should stand to get out of poison |
| 23:53.40 | Cloudwolf | Or that's my assumption for them disliking it. |
| 23:54.06 | foxlit | Cloudwolf: by that metric, hudmap is just as bad. |
| 23:54.37 | Antiarc-phone | The issue with avr is that it draws in 3d |
| 23:54.40 | Cloudwolf | hmm.... yeah.... |
| 23:55.01 | Antiarc-phone | That is not intended by addons |
| 23:55.23 | Nechckn | Even with the given 2dness, aren't you sort of faking it, too? |
| 23:55.28 | foxlit | That seems to me like it's going through 42 different layers of translation. |
| 23:55.46 | foxlit | "You can't do 3D!" is seems like a silly restriction. |
| 23:56.09 | Nechckn | I do not have a dog in the figt, but, just interested in where they are drawing the line, in general. It seemed to be that it was visual, not even so much as 3d. |
| 23:56.23 | Antiarc-phone | avr mocks interaction with the game world |
| 23:56.25 | foxlit | Something like "You can't deface our world." or "You can't trivialize our raids" are better wordings, but they seem to be avoiding phrasing anything in those terms. |
| 23:56.32 | Antiarc-phone | Which is not intended |
| 23:56.36 | Cloudwolf | And isn't it just 2d warped to look like 3d?... |
| 23:56.51 | Antiarc-phone | Yes, but do ate many other things |
| 23:58.36 | Nechckn | It is pretty cool, though, no matter what the final word is. Nice job! |
