| 00:00.04 | Cairenn | multiple boxes with circles inside them to you too, Shirik |
| 00:00.43 | haste | Shirik: yeh, but no input here :( |
| 00:00.54 | Shirik | :( |
| 00:01.05 | haste | guess I could compile uim-fep, but not sure if it works well with ibus |
| 00:01.21 | haste | would have to restart weechat then as well :( |
| 00:01.44 | zenzelezz | what characters were those supposed to be? |
| 00:01.49 | Shirik | I'm using the Microsoft IME into Putty into bash running screen with irssi |
| 00:01.50 | haste | I only know about 350 kanji as well |
| 00:01.55 | haste | been slacking too much lately |
| 00:01.56 | Shirik | way too much work |
| 00:02.01 | Shirik | I know about 3 |
| 00:02.03 | Shirik | so it's ok |
| 00:02.07 | haste | nihongo :D ? |
| 00:02.11 | Shirik | :P |
| 00:02.18 | Shirik | actually I know mizu also |
| 00:02.29 | Shirik | and I think that's it |
| 00:03.18 | haste | I wouldn't have written hasutsu btw |
| 00:03.18 | haste | heisuto would make more sense |
| 00:03.19 | Shirik | zenzelezz: I asked if haste understands japanese |
| 00:03.19 | Shirik | yeah I couldn't decide |
| 00:03.19 | Shirik | first I typed haste |
| 00:03.19 | Shirik | and then the IME was like "wtf are you smoking" |
| 00:03.20 | haste | :D |
| 00:03.31 | Shirik | ãï½ã |
| 00:03.38 | Shirik | for obvious reasons :P |
| 00:03.42 | haste | mm |
| 00:04.07 | haste | the linux ime can actually convert common english words found in edict to katakana |
| 00:04.11 | Shirik | I probably would have ended up with heisutu if I thought about it |
| 00:04.17 | haste | useful when you're feeling lazy |
| 00:05.00 | haste | unrelated note |
| 00:05.10 | Cide | anyone up for some sc2? Shirik? tem? |
| 00:05.12 | haste | spending july in japan |
| 00:05.14 | Shirik | Cide |
| 00:05.17 | Shirik | I'm on a train |
| 00:05.23 | Cide | well that's useless! |
| 00:05.23 | Shirik | I don't think that's a good idea |
| 00:05.26 | Cide | I'm on a boat |
| 00:05.29 | Shirik | haste: awesome |
| 00:05.30 | haste | :D |
| 00:05.31 | Cide | I'm on a motherfucking boat |
| 00:05.38 | Shirik | I went to Japan about 10 years ago but |
| 00:05.41 | Shirik | I want to go back |
| 00:05.51 | haste | I went to japan two years ago |
| 00:06.07 | haste | when I actually studied linguistics |
| 00:06.35 | Fisker | Â |
| 00:07.16 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 00:07.19 | Fisker | i got my rocket knight |
| 00:07.19 | Dashkal | >.> |
| 00:07.27 | Fisker | Dashkal Shirik |
| 00:07.54 | haste | is looking forward to seeing midori live :3 |
| 00:08.18 | Fisker | midori? |
| 00:08.21 | Fisker | some fags? ;3 |
| 00:08.29 | Cide | the liquor? |
| 00:08.29 | haste | japanese jazz/noise punk |
| 00:08.37 | Fisker | oh |
| 00:08.40 | Fisker | sounds shitty |
| 00:08.43 | Shirik | fu Fisker |
| 00:09.11 | Fisker | bawwwww Shirik |
| 00:15.21 | haste | oh nice |
| 00:15.24 | haste | that lookes pretty odd |
| 00:15.30 | Fisker | what does? |
| 00:15.57 | Jamash | your face, Fisker |
| 00:16.13 | haste | your action |
| 00:16.18 | Fisker | enrages |
| 00:16.43 | sylvanaar | disenchants Fisker |
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| 00:16.44 | Jamash | tranqs Fisker |
| 00:16.55 | Fisker | berserkts |
| 00:16.56 | sylvanaar | recieves 1 [vision dust] |
| 00:16.57 | Fisker | durr |
| 00:17.17 | Fisker | how can it be? |
| 00:17.57 | haste | Fisker: http://video.nifty.com/cs/catalog/video_metadata/catalog_090415190409_1.htm :D:D:D ? |
| 00:18.01 | haste | insanity right at your door! |
| 00:18.26 | Fisker | killing haste |
| 00:18.45 | Fisker | this better be worth my time |
| 00:18.51 | Fisker | wtf |
| 00:19.00 | haste | :D:D:D |
| 00:19.24 | Fisker | Ears: Bleeding |
| 00:19.26 | Fisker | Mind: Blown |
| 00:19.43 | haste | FINISH HIM! |
| 00:19.46 | Jamash | I agree with fisker |
| 00:19.57 | Fisker | Browser: Alt+F4 |
| 00:20.07 | Fisker | well CTRL+W to be fair |
| 00:20.11 | Jamash | as unlikely as that seems |
| 00:20.48 | Jamash | it seems to me that instead of seeing that band live you could simply pour drano in your ears |
| 00:20.57 | Fisker | i should sleep rawr |
| 00:21.07 | haste | hi, I'm haste and I listen to noise |
| 00:21.13 | haste | this is kinda on the normal side of the taste :( |
| 00:22.55 | Jamash | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:23.07 | haste | seems legit |
| 00:23.11 | Jamash | totally |
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| 00:25.08 | DWSR | haste: What the fuck was that. |
| 00:25.27 | haste | DWSR: insanity converted to music |
| 00:25.34 | DWSR | sounds about right. |
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| 00:46.56 | Shirik | a blizzard lucky Players |
| 00:48.39 | Jamash | yes |
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| 00:50.48 | Lunessa | can get a mysterious gift |
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| 01:02.31 | Adys | kd3: ping |
| 01:02.52 | Adys | or nevcairel; actually, anyone remembers which vcrun version is needed for wow? |
| 01:05.25 | TC-Away | and will .net work on wine? |
| 01:08.14 | Antiarc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUpogpnGjiM&fmt=21 |
| 01:08.27 | Cide | so I just single-handedly won a 1v2 |
| 01:09.11 | Adys | Man |
| 01:09.13 | Adys | git is awesome |
| 01:09.23 | Adys | Thunder_Child: sure, why not |
| 01:11.03 | Thunder_Child | i duno, thats why i was asking |
| 01:12.18 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 01:12.20 | Fisker | i wa nted to sleep |
| 01:12.56 | Fisker | killing Thunder_Child |
| 01:13.13 | Thunder_Child | Fisker |
| 01:13.20 | Fisker | hey Thunder_Child |
| 01:13.35 | Thunder_Child | feeds Fisker his own words |
| 01:13.57 | Fisker | om nom nom? |
| 01:14.20 | Fisker | so how can it be Thunder_Child ? |
| 01:14.38 | Thunder_Child | alphabet soup |
| 01:15.01 | Fisker | i will destroy you Thunder_Child |
| 01:15.16 | Thunder_Child | like Cairenn, it's all promisies, no action |
| 01:15.54 | Fisker | don't be evil Thunder_Child |
| 01:17.09 | Thunder_Child | look who is talking Fisker |
| 01:17.19 | Fisker | i'm not evil |
| 01:20.09 | Fisker | want to make out Thunder_Child ? |
| 01:20.18 | Thunder_Child | later Fisker |
| 01:21.07 | Fisker | but i need to sleep |
| 01:21.24 | Esamynn | ugg, I feel sorta dirty, just got my BG daily because some moron was running a teleport hack in Warsong Gultch |
| 01:21.27 | Thunder_Child | so then sleep |
| 01:22.02 | Fisker | why would you feel dirty Esamynn ? |
| 01:22.14 | Esamynn | cheapens the win |
| 01:26.37 | cncfanatics | Anyone knows an addon that automates making a new rank ? |
| 01:26.47 | cncfanatics | Without having to promote/demote and rename ranks if its not at the botto |
| 01:27.24 | cncfanatics | Please ? |
| 01:28.24 | Adys | Shirik |
| 01:28.47 | Adys | After a full hd wipe and reinstall, writes are really slow and noisy |
| 01:28.55 | Adys | installing some random package takes 30 sec |
| 01:28.59 | Adys | any idea what could cause this? |
| 01:30.37 | cncfanatics | Adys: Your OS putting the HD to sleep too agressivly |
| 01:32.26 | Adys | hmm |
| 01:33.47 | Adys | maybe its some ext4 misconfig |
| 01:34.02 | cncfanatics | That or your acpi/pm-utils |
| 01:35.45 | Adys | Looking at pm utils now, doesnt seem to make much of a diff |
| 01:35.48 | Adys | i think everything is disabled |
| 01:36.15 | Jamash | your HDD is dying |
| 01:36.17 | cncfanatics | Or it could be trying to spare too much power, and not spin it up enough |
| 01:36.30 | cncfanatics | Or your HDD is dying though, though thats unlikely if it just started happening after a reinstall |
| 01:36.53 | Adys | its full reinstall, new filesystem |
| 01:37.06 | Adys | could be dying but doubt it |
| 01:39.19 | Jamash | my guild leader has the chef's hat |
| 01:39.26 | Jamash | but his cooking skill is at 399 |
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| 01:42.24 | Arrowmaster | Adys: maybe check if theres a firmware update for the drive? |
| 01:42.33 | Arrowmaster | and check its SMART data |
| 01:42.41 | Jamash | or the motherboard |
| 01:43.12 | cncfanatics | (Or the OS) |
| 01:43.16 | cncfanatics | (Most importantly) |
| 01:46.13 | cbreak | if it's a mac, after a reinstall, it will rebuild it's meta data index for spotlight (the search) |
| 01:46.26 | cbreak | this will make HD access slow for other apps |
| 01:47.50 | Jamash | adys said ext4 so I assume linux |
| 01:47.58 | Trela | cbreak: Unlike my MacBook Pro that likes reindex every time I restart. D: |
| 01:48.15 | cbreak | hmm. that's unusual |
| 01:48.22 | Jamash | just got egbert, whiskers and the fawn :D |
| 01:48.36 | Fisker | i need sleep |
| 01:48.38 | cbreak | it should only reindex once, and maybe after crashes that invalidate the file-change API |
| 01:48.59 | Fisker | cbreak any estimates of what you should have to go away from frost or ffb to an arcane or fire build? |
| 01:49.17 | cbreak | I can't say anything about fire |
| 01:49.31 | cbreak | arcane is nice in so far that you only need around 8% hit from gear |
| 01:49.43 | cbreak | (+6% from talents, +3% from raid buffs) |
| 01:49.49 | cbreak | so, you can get more haste and spell damage |
| 01:49.53 | cbreak | and crit |
| 01:50.04 | Fisker | sauce |
| 01:50.24 | Adys | ill run a fsck on next boot |
| 01:50.27 | cbreak | I use rawr for the details with gear though. |
| 01:50.40 | cbreak | but in general: Tier 10 rocks for arcane |
| 01:50.49 | cbreak | both the 2 piece and the 4 piece are excellent |
| 01:50.50 | Adys | Arrowmaster: how do I do that on linux? (check the smart data) |
| 01:51.02 | Arrowmaster | smartmontools |
| 01:51.10 | cbreak | especially the 4 piece synergizes with arcane power / icy veins |
| 01:57.55 | Adys | Arrowmaster: how trustable is this data? |
| 01:57.58 | foxlit | lua> ("\nfoo"):match("%s(%a+)"); |
| 01:58.09 | Arrowmaster | Adys: depends on the drive |
| 01:58.20 | Adys | it's telling me 13 days power-on lifetime is pre-failure |
| 01:58.56 | Adys | unless thats 19181 hours (800 days), but i dont believe ive had it that long |
| 01:59.42 | Arrowmaster | some drives report that time as totally fucked up |
| 01:59.54 | cbreak | it's the effect of relativity |
| 02:00.06 | cbreak | the fast spinning disks cause a time dilletation |
| 02:00.17 | cbreak | which accelerates time for the witness |
| 02:00.32 | cbreak | tries to remember back to physics course |
| 02:00.33 | Adys | Arrowmaster: faq says hitachi reports are in minutes |
| 02:01.13 | Adys | apparently the drive is at 115 degrees celcius too |
| 02:01.19 | Adys | lifetime min being 52 |
| 02:06.14 | Arrowmaster | you are probably reading that wrong |
| 02:06.47 | Adys | yeah the min was wrong |
| 02:07.09 | Adys | still doubt it's 115C |
| 02:07.37 | Adys | one sec |
| 02:08.20 | Fisker | take a firm grip around the harddrive to find out |
| 02:08.20 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 02:08.42 | Adys | I did |
| 02:08.44 | Adys | it's not that hot |
| 02:08.51 | Adys | and the case is wide open |
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| 02:10.15 | kd3 | adys, pong. vcrun2005 |
| 02:10.16 | Arrowmaster | how new is the drive? |
| 02:10.16 | kd3 | iirc |
| 02:10.32 | Adys | Arrowmaster: 2-3 years i think |
| 02:10.39 | Adys | 3 more likely |
| 02:10.42 | Adys | kd3: ah |
| 02:10.47 | Adys | mind adding that to the wiki page? |
| 02:11.03 | kd3 | I thought I did... |
| 02:11.04 | Arrowmaster | the values in smart are weird, you have to know the specifics about the drive to be able to read them correctly, which smartmontools has a lot builtin to it |
| 02:11.09 | kd3 | checks |
| 02:11.22 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Wine_troubleshooting#Post-3.3.0_runtime_error |
| 02:13.50 | Adys | kd3: ah |
| 02:13.56 | Adys | its not in the main wine page |
| 02:14.27 | Adys | Arrowmaster: http://i39.tinypic.com/207ux08.jpg |
| 02:15.07 | Arrowmaster | says the drive is 52C currently |
| 02:15.17 | Adys | ah |
| 02:17.16 | Adys | Arrowmaster: i dont understand all the prefailure warnings |
| 02:17.22 | Adys | it looks fine to me |
| 02:17.26 | Arrowmaster | thats not a warning at all |
| 02:17.28 | Arrowmaster | just a type |
| 02:17.44 | Adys | ahh |
| 02:17.47 | Adys | i see |
| 02:18.15 | Arrowmaster | if that attribute goes past the threshold then it means the drive is in a 'pre-failure' state and could fail soon |
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| 02:26.12 | Kraps | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2010/may/cataclysm_models_npc/batch2/goblintotems.jpg |
| 02:26.35 | kd3 | adys, http://www.wowwiki.com/index.php?diff=2253974&oldid=2253538 |
| 02:26.36 | Adys | i love the "nature" totem |
| 02:27.00 | Adys | kd3: much love |
| 02:27.00 | Shirik | Adys: swap misconfigured? |
| 02:27.08 | Shirik | KRAPS |
| 02:27.10 | Shirik | omg |
| 02:27.18 | Shirik | you missed awesomeness today |
| 02:27.23 | Kraps | SHIRIK |
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| 02:27.34 | Adys | Shirik: could be.. ill keep a watch on gnome sysmon |
| 02:27.55 | Shirik | someone nominated my usaer page for deletion |
| 02:28.00 | fiercerest | i had my video card at 103 celsius once |
| 02:28.14 | Kraps | Shirik: loooooooooooooooool |
| 02:28.31 | kd3 | declined, wp:point |
| 02:28.32 | Adys | fiercerest: i had mine well above 170 degrees |
| 02:28.36 | kd3 | did it even get that far? |
| 02:28.37 | Adys | it died the next day |
| 02:28.41 | Shirik | the best part was the justification |
| 02:28.49 | fiercerest | 170, wtf |
| 02:29.02 | Adys | fiercerest: ati. |
| 02:29.03 | fiercerest | thats like 400 F |
| 02:29.06 | Shirik | I need to find it hang on |
| 02:29.15 | Adys | Shirik: why do kde tools suck :/ |
| 02:29.23 | Shirik | my internet sucks right now |
| 02:29.31 | Adys | why cant they have something as awesome as gnome-system-monitor |
| 02:29.33 | Adys | =( |
| 02:29.37 | Adys | also help me out Shirik |
| 02:29.40 | fiercerest | my current one is ATI, it doesnt get that hot. i hope |
| 02:29.42 | Adys | my altgr key is disabled >< |
| 02:31.13 | Arrowmaster | haha, http://micasaverde.com/ apparently this has a Lua interface |
| 02:31.44 | Shirik | '''Speedy delete this, [[User talk:Shirik]] and any other subpages''' as he destroyed my WikiMemories. |
| 02:32.15 | Kraps | do you have a link? |
| 02:32.50 | Shirik | Kraps ^ |
| 02:32.59 | Shirik | bah slow internet ftl |
| 02:33.18 | Shirik | it's been deleted |
| 02:33.23 | Shirik | so you can't see it anymore |
| 02:33.36 | Arrowmaster | ok now im fucking tempted to get this http://wiki.micasaverde.com/index.php/DeveloperSpecial |
| 02:34.32 | Zyn | $99? that's a lot for automating something you can do yourself :D |
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| 02:35.20 | Kraps | should i look at screenshots or not? |
| 02:35.37 | Shirik | though the mfd template is still in my history of my page Kraps |
| 02:36.23 | Kraps | i feel like i'm being spoilered but i also feel like i shouldnt feel like that |
| 02:37.33 | Shirik | I would give you a screenshot but I an't load the page right now |
| 02:37.37 | Shirik | it's taking me like 10 minutes just to type out these sentences on IRC |
| 02:38.16 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:38.35 | Shirik | train stopped in the worst possible place for cellservice |
| 02:38.40 | Kraps | i'm talking about Cata screenshots |
| 02:39.55 | Shirik | o |
| 02:39.57 | Shirik | fail |
| 02:40.11 | Kraps | cur | prev) 16:40, 8 May 2010 Iwillgetmyrevenge (talk | contribs) (1,616 bytes) (You destroyed my life...now I'll destroy you) (undo) |
| 02:46.14 | Kraps | lol @ peoplw "omg MMOC broke the NDA, he has no integrity!" |
| 02:47.20 | sylvanaar | Arrowmaster: that looks cool |
| 02:47.39 | Shirik | lol Kraps |
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| 02:52.27 | Adys | WOOT |
| 02:52.31 | Adys | I HAVE AN ALTGR KEY! |
| 02:52.41 | Adys | ¹²³â´âµâ¶â·â¸â¸â¹â°"''! |
| 02:52.45 | Kraps | http://www.wow.com/photos/cataclysm-daily-screenshots/full/#2964180 ah honest-to-goodness reef ftw |
| 02:52.53 | Shirik | hey Adys |
| 02:53.00 | Adys | ø}wâ¬{§§â¢Â¥Â¥Åâ{¥§£{$þ£^nb¡ |
| 02:53.07 | Shirik | look at all the characters I can type without an altgr key |
| 02:53.16 | Adys | {·}{·} |
| 02:53.37 | Shirik | æä¸ãæ¸ããããããããããããããããããã |
| 02:53.58 | Adys | {·}{·}. Your point is moot. |
| 02:54.20 | Shirik | ãã£sä½så°ããã±ããèãã¦ãããµããç¨ræ©å°tä½sããï½ |
| 02:54.34 | Jamash | º¿º |
| 02:54.40 | Shirik | and that's what happens when you type "this is in japanese, therefore your point is moot" while the IME is still on |
| 02:54.48 | Adys | â â¦â |
| 02:55.28 | Shirik | ._. |
| 02:55.31 | Shirik | oh dot oh |
| 02:55.36 | Adys | ¬¬ |
| 02:56.39 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o eir] by ChanServ |
| 02:56.40 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-bo *!*@99-57-32-25.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net eir] by eir |
| 02:56.59 | Thunder_Child | i am always amused at that |
| 02:57.21 | Adys | ·â¦Â·? |
| 02:57.31 | Arrowmaster | i dont understand why the bot needs to be op'd |
| 02:57.46 | Thunder_Child | or why it de-op's itself |
| 02:58.28 | Arrowmaster | freenode has some 'policy' on ops not staying oped all the time because its 'intimidating' |
| 02:58.49 | Jamash | what |
| 02:58.52 | Adys | its also stupid unless you got a client that can auto-op you |
| 02:59.19 | Arrowmaster | or you just do everything with the services |
| 02:59.24 | Thunder_Child | but i thought eir was a bot |
| 02:59.33 | Arrowmaster | eir is a bot |
| 02:59.50 | Thunder_Child | who the hell gets intimidated by a bot? |
| 03:00.31 | Adys | Robocop |
| 03:00.37 | Thunder_Child | is not a bot |
| 03:00.42 | Thunder_Child | cyborg |
| 03:01.00 | Adys | i said |
| 03:01.08 | Adys | Robocop gets intimidated by a bot |
| 03:01.28 | Shirik | don't lie everyone fears EDI |
| 03:01.33 | Adys | who? |
| 03:01.34 | Arrowmaster | but still im surprised that freenodes ircd doesnt have a usermode like ircu does that makes the users pretty much invincible, being able to talk in +m channels or change channel modes at will all without being op'd |
| 03:01.58 | Arrowmaster | some of the ircops i know on gamesurge run around with that mode turned on at times |
| 03:02.22 | Arrowmaster | mostly because it hides the channels in the whois results too |
| 03:05.09 | DWSR | http://bit.ly/cKBzAc |
| 03:05.34 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: Freenode's IRCd probably has those things, they're just not umodes. |
| 03:05.46 | DWSR | s/they're just/they might/ |
| 03:05.52 | DWSR | heh, close enough |
| 03:06.37 | DWSR | They don't want to have a bot to have those powers because that's increasing your attack surface. |
| 03:07.35 | DWSR | Why the bot doesn't just do the ops/deops with services though? I have no idea. I have a feeling it's the whole "accountability" thing. |
| 03:07.53 | DWSR | Though, seven's services should support timed bans. |
| 03:08.57 | Arrowmaster | it does do the ops with services, though it looks like the services are very limited and dont even support doing things like banning/unbanning through chanserv |
| 03:09.06 | DWSR | They don't. |
| 03:09.16 | DWSR | Unless I'm just not seeing the commands because I'm not a chan owner. |
| 03:09.30 | DWSR | They really should just use an established services package like Anope. |
| 03:09.35 | DWSR | And write the modules they need. |
| 03:09.38 | Arrowmaster | or srvx |
| 03:09.43 | DWSR | Or something. |
| 03:09.44 | Arrowmaster | which im used to |
| 03:09.50 | DWSR | Too much reinventing the wheel on seven, imo. |
| 03:09.54 | Arrowmaster | since i used to be staff on gamesurge |
| 03:09.56 | DWSR | Could have just dropped in Charbydis. |
| 03:10.00 | DWSR | Or however the fuck you spell it. |
| 03:10.11 | Shirik | you can't even spell it |
| 03:10.20 | Shirik | how the fuck you expect to use it |
| 03:10.29 | Cide | yess |
| 03:10.32 | Cide | my parser is awesome |
| 03:10.36 | DWSR | Charybdis |
| 03:10.44 | DWSR | I typo'ed it. |
| 03:11.18 | DWSR | btw, I thought that Blizzard said they were going to turn off the fucking Lil' XT noises? |
| 03:11.33 | cbreak | fucking noises? |
| 03:11.39 | cbreak | just keep him away from other XTs |
| 03:17.05 | kd3 | lol |
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| 03:18.13 | cybermind | they only turned off the ones that everybody else heard way too far away |
| 03:18.13 | DWSR | zomg. |
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| 03:29.07 | DWSR | They need to just /turn it off/ |
| 03:29.13 | DWSR | For anyone but the person who has the fucking thing on. |
| 03:29.43 | Thunder_Child | i thought thats what it was supposed to be |
| 03:30.08 | DWSR | It's not. |
| 03:32.34 | Thunder_Child | "The issue was that some of his sounds were flagged in such a way that they play for everyone around him and not just the player that owns the pet, an annoying problem to be sure. " |
| 03:32.50 | Thunder_Child | that sounds like thats the way it is supposed to be |
| 03:33.05 | Thunder_Child | though i dont know what 'some' is |
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| 03:59.13 | eidolarr | I am dicking around in sh and this doesn't work: |
| 03:59.35 | eidolarr | tail -f pipe | awk '{print "1 " $1;}' > out.txt |
| 03:59.55 | eidolarr | I think this is becasue it waits for the command to finish before writing out.txt, but it never does, as it's a pipe |
| 04:00.07 | eidolarr | is there a clever way to write that so that the > out.txt is bound to the awk line rather than the whole line? |
| 04:05.20 | Adys | eidolarr: tail -f pipe | $(awk '{print "1 " $1;}' > out.txt) |
| 04:05.21 | Adys | try this |
| 04:05.34 | Adys | and ive no idea if itll work |
| 04:07.00 | eidolarr | no dice =( parens don't seem to mean anything in that context and i don't know how to create an inner block |
| 04:26.41 | eidolarr | my solution was to put it in a while loop, which is not that elegant but w/e |
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| 04:34.14 | Thrae | OK, why do people keep talking to me like I'm crazy when I say Goblins are NOT made after Jewish Stereotypes. As someone who lived in New York and New Jersey, if anything they're Italian-American stereotypes. It really goes to show how easily people jump to anti-semitism from just a few coincidences in stereotypes. |
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| 04:35.25 | Thrae | People I know are stoked about naming their Goblins "Goldstein" and whatever...goddammit. |
| 04:35.52 | Esamynn | Thrae: Globins = ugly, sea sick Gnomes |
| 04:36.01 | Esamynn | =D |
| 04:36.42 | Thrae | Esamynn: Nah there are important differences between Gnomes and Goblins. And if the Goblins are sea-sick why are Goblins prolific pirates while Gnomes aren't? |
| 04:37.09 | Esamynn | they like being sea sick, while most gnomes don't? |
| 04:37.32 | Esamynn | explains the green skin |
| 04:38.00 | Esamynn | explains the engineering skills, and even the need to blow stuff up, it's their only relief from... well being ugly |
| 04:39.11 | Torhal | sheds a tear for Goblinkind. |
| 04:39.20 | Thrae | Esamynn: Or maybe they are secret Orc/Dwarf babies. That produced dimunitive green Orcs, which inbred until they became Goblins. |
| 04:39.33 | Esamynn | HAHAHA! |
| 04:40.02 | Thrae | The Gnomes came from Dwarven inbreeding, so we know that Dwarven inbreeding leads to Engineering skills. |
| 04:40.06 | Esamynn | Gnome/Orc offspring, explains the ugly |
| 04:40.14 | Esamynn | and the green |
| 04:40.22 | Thrae | Nah, the Orcs and Dwarves are an older race than the Goblins and Gnomes |
| 04:40.36 | Esamynn | Gnomes game from dwarf inbreeding? |
| 04:40.37 | Esamynn | lol |
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| 04:40.51 | Thrae | Where'd you think Gnomes came from? Human inbreeding? |
| 04:41.02 | Esamynn | never really thought about it |
| 04:41.21 | Esamynn | however, you do make a convincing argument |
| 04:41.39 | Thrae | The Dwarven race is older than Humans on Azeroth, so probably Humans came from Elves, Gnomes from Dwarves. |
| 04:41.53 | Esamynn | ugg, humans from Elves |
| 04:41.55 | Esamynn | god no |
| 04:42.19 | Esamynn | bad enough we Elves probably share an ancestor with Trolls |
| 04:42.39 | Thrae | Dwarves and Elves are among the oldest races. Trolls came from ancient Elves, about the time they became Night Elves, Blood Elves, and High Elves. |
| 04:42.51 | Esamynn | uhh |
| 04:43.00 | Esamynn | High Elves came from Night Elves |
| 04:43.04 | Esamynn | ruling class |
| 04:43.16 | Esamynn | Blood Elves are just a faction of High Evles |
| 04:43.27 | Corrodias | they're the GOOD ones |
| 04:43.37 | Esamynn | Blood Elves? |
| 04:43.37 | Thrae | I didn't say High Elves came from the same Elves that became Trolls, I said it was before but around they split (a good thousand-year stretch) |
| 04:44.05 | Esamynn | Elves and Trolls split off a few thousand years (at least) before the sundering |
| 04:44.23 | Thrae | And as we know, Orcs came from the Dark Portal. They came from Draenor like the Dranei. |
| 04:44.43 | Esamynn | Draenei didn't come from Draenor |
| 04:44.43 | Adys | Cide |
| 04:44.58 | Esamynn | Draenei are the outcast Eredar |
| 04:45.11 | Adys | Cide, http://dpaste.com/192325/ what thinks you |
| 04:45.12 | Thrae | Esamynn: Draenei didn't come from Draenor? What were they doing on it? |
| 04:45.21 | Adys | Cide not here |
| 04:45.22 | Adys | :( |
| 04:45.33 | Esamynn | they fled when Sargaras corrupted the rest of the Eredar |
| 04:45.39 | Esamynn | and settled on Draenor |
| 04:46.34 | Thrae | Esamynn: Ah, I see that now. Still, it depends on how long they lived on Draenor before they were all sucked in by the Burning Legion. |
| 04:46.36 | Esamynn | Archimonde, Kiljaden and Velen were all once friends |
| 04:47.02 | Esamynn | no, Draenor was not their home, they fled there from their home |
| 04:47.07 | Esamynn | hiding from their kin |
| 04:47.18 | Thrae | Orcs and Draenei are relatively new to Azeroth. |
| 04:47.22 | Torhal | But was it the chick or the egg?!? |
| 04:47.23 | Esamynn | from the Burning Legion |
| 04:47.27 | Torhal | chicken* |
| 04:47.33 | Thrae | Esamynn: Yeah, but if you live on a planet long enough, it becomes your home. |
| 04:48.06 | Esamynn | Orcs first came to Azeroth around 28 years before present day |
| 04:48.08 | Thrae | Esamynn: I mean, they were the ones that named the planet! And coexisted with the Orcs. |
| 04:48.17 | Esamynn | yes, they did name it |
| 04:48.34 | Esamynn | they lived there a long time before the Buring Legion caught up with them and decided to corrupt the Orcs |
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| 05:03.18 | Thrae | Esamynn: It appears Goblins are, in fact, from the same decent as (Jungle) Trolls. They gained their intelligence from a magic rock. Gnomes are not inbred Dwarves but creations of the Titans after they made Dwarves. The Titans were tinkering with mechanical instead of stone-based lifeforms and created the Gnomes. |
| 05:03.54 | Esamynn | yes, these things I know |
| 05:03.56 | Esamynn | ;) |
| 05:07.04 | Thrae | So Ancient Troll/Elf/Goblin == Elves, Trolls, Goblins. Elves->Night Elves->High/Blood Elves->Humans. Titan creations are Dwarves and Gnomes. Orcs and Draenei are literal aliens. Undead are Undead. |
| 05:07.26 | Thrae | Whoops, forgot the Tauren. They came from...cows. |
| 05:12.06 | Thrae | Actually, the Tauren came from the Emerald Dream. |
| 05:13.27 | Thrae | I wonder if Cataclysm will open the way further into the Emerald Dream as its version of "Icecrown Citadel"? |
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| 05:16.19 | Esamynn | do we actually know for sure the origins of the Tauren and Humans? |
| 05:19.38 | Thrae | Nah...the real end-game dungeon will have something to do with Sargeras, since the Cataclysm hsa a lot of Titan stuff. |
| 05:21.18 | Kraps | where is SWP? |
| 05:23.38 | Thrae | No wait, that wouldn't make sense...unless Blizzard really does want Sargeras to be the "biggest villian" of WoW. |
| 05:28.40 | ZorbaTHut | the real end-game dungeon will depend entirely on how long Blizzard keeps the mythos going |
| 05:29.13 | Lunessa | ZorbaTHut: As long as they can keep us paying $15/month |
| 05:31.11 | ZorbaTHut | it would not *entirely* surprise me if Blizzard ended up turning the Titans into bad guys a ways down the road. |
| 05:32.03 | Lunessa | ZorbaTHut: They DID come take an entire planet away from the original owners. |
| 05:32.40 | ZorbaTHut | Sargeras himself is certainly the biggest baddest figure we know of, but there are enough loose ends that I wouldn't call it completely impossible that someone else is controlling him. we still don't really understand what the Old Ones are, for example |
| 05:33.14 | Kraps | hey guys i'm in sunwell but grid is on 10-man mode, why? |
| 05:33.17 | ZorbaTHut | and we know surprisingly little about the demon hordes that inhabit the Twisting Nether - sure Sargeras leads them now, but where did they originally come from? |
| 05:34.30 | Lunessa | Kraps: It doesn't "autosize" without a plugin. |
| 05:35.05 | Kraps | Lunessa: i got it now, changed the 10-man setting in grid :) |
| 05:35.06 | ZorbaTHut | hell we don't actually know where the original Worgen come from |
| 05:36.19 | Thrae | I've looked at all the lore and now think Cataclysm is going to be about the Old Gods, since they fought the Titans, corrupted Neltharion (Deathwing), and tricked Sargeras. They could be the real ones behind the Cataclysmic events. |
| 05:36.42 | ZorbaTHut | thrae, I don't think so. Blizzard doesn't seem to like expanding the scope of their plotlines all that much |
| 05:36.46 | ZorbaTHut | we've been told Deathwing is the big bad guy |
| 05:36.58 | ZorbaTHut | I suspect this means Deathwing is absolutely going to be the big bad guy. |
| 05:37.14 | ZorbaTHut | next expansion I'm personally betting on Emerald Dream |
| 05:37.26 | ZorbaTHut | expansion after that, I could see them going more heavily after the Old Gods. |
| 05:37.51 | Thrae | ZorbaTHut: In Burning Crusade there were multiple raids after Kara, which is when you took down Sargeras, the main villian of BC. The rest of the raids were more cleaning up the mess of people who got too powerful. |
| 05:38.13 | Lunessa | How many more are we going to fight? I mean, C'Thun, and the one in Ulduar and Ragnaros, ets. |
| 05:38.46 | ZorbaTHut | huh? karazhan was the intro raid, the final boss of kara was Malchezaar, and the main villian of BC was intended to be Illidan |
| 05:39.18 | Thrae | Lunessa: Actually the Elemental Plane of Fire is suppose to be one of the Cataclysm raids, where you fight Ragnaros...again. |
| 05:39.41 | Thrae | ZorbaTHut: Sargeras is the main villian, Illidan is just the strongest raid boss. |
| 05:39.42 | ZorbaTHut | kil'jaedan ended up being the final bad guy in BC, but that was because Wrath was taking too long and they needed filler - they've gone on record as saying that they weren't happy about that |
| 05:40.10 | ZorbaTHut | I'm pretty sure nobody has yet fought Sargeras. |
| 05:40.22 | ZorbaTHut | Hell, we didn't even technically kill Kil'Jaedan. |
| 05:41.06 | Thrae | ZorbaTHut: You fought Sargeras in Kara while he was possessing Medivh. The events of Kara sent the "essence" of Sargeras in horrible pain back to the Twisting Nether, perhaps dead or in a state close to death. |
| 05:41.31 | ZorbaTHut | sure, but let's be honest, that's not defeated. that's "mildly annoyed" |
| 05:41.41 | ZorbaTHut | and he didn't have the powers of Sargeras |
| 05:41.54 | Thrae | He has a tiny portion of his powers |
| 05:42.00 | Thrae | s/has/had/; |
| 05:42.50 | ZorbaTHut | but that was really only an intro - Medivh/Sargeras was a growing threat, absolutely, but he was by no means the Big Bad Guy that inspired the expansion |
| 05:44.04 | Thrae | Anyway, Deathwing was never under Sargeras's control. Deathwing was always just running around doing evil. But if the Titans feel any love for Azeroth, and they've shown with their battle with the Old Gods, they will fight the true enemy of Azeroth, and it's the Old Gods who want it corrupted. |
| 05:44.30 | Thrae | There have been shown to be many worlds out there, yet the Old Gods really like (or don't like) Azeroth. |
| 05:44.50 | ZorbaTHut | I don't think the Titans show much love at all for Azeroth. They pretty much abandoned it, leaving a few minor easily-corrupted henchmen around |
| 05:45.19 | ZorbaTHut | then they decide to check up on it literally tens of thousands of years later, and when they find that well actually things kind of went to pot with them gone, they decide to blow the entire place up |
| 05:45.24 | Thrae | Fighting a Dragon that's been corrupted by the Old Gods, beings that fought the Titans while the Titans easily subdued the Dragonflight, does not make an impressive, epic battle. |
| 05:45.45 | Kraps | what!!!!!!! |
| 05:45.53 | ZorbaTHut | that honestly sounds pretty dang epic to me :D |
| 05:46.13 | ZorbaTHut | I mean keep in mind that Deathwing isn't a henchman of the Old Gods |
| 05:46.27 | ZorbaTHut | sure, he was turned by them, but at this point he's essentially his own elemental force of hatred |
| 05:46.33 | Thrae | But we've fought bunches of Dragons and even Deathwing at one point. |
| 05:46.49 | ZorbaTHut | Yeah, and now he's back. |
| 05:46.49 | Thrae | Yeah, same with the relationship between Sargeras and Illidan. |
| 05:46.51 | ZorbaTHut | In Pog form. |
| 05:46.56 | ZorbaTHut | And we have to kill him again, and make it stick. |
| 05:47.12 | ZorbaTHut | side note: http://www.wowwiki.com/File:Deathwingartwar2.JPG hee hee |
| 05:47.15 | Lunessa | "There must always be a Deathwing..." |
| 05:47.17 | ZorbaTHut | oh, back when they couldn't afford good artists. |
| 05:47.30 | Kraps | druid tanking in moonkin form/raid leader blowing a fuse/people not following instuctions/boss despawning repeatedly = its a level 70 raid in SWP! |
| 05:48.30 | ZorbaTHut | hey, undead onyxia. badass. |
| 05:48.38 | Thrae | Well with all the work Blizzard has done already with Cataclysm and the events leading up to Cataclysm, it seems doubtful they'll be able to make the next expansion so quickly. |
| 05:48.43 | ZorbaTHut | guess that's why they decided to bring her back. |
| 05:49.01 | ZorbaTHut | thrae, I disagree with that - now that they've finished the complete redesign of the main world, I suspect the next one could come even faster |
| 05:49.08 | Thrae | ZorbaTHut: She is related to Deathwing |
| 05:49.10 | ZorbaTHut | they've said 2 years is too long, I think they're aiming for 1.5 years reliably |
| 05:49.34 | Thrae | But the next one could be the Emerald Dream, which is *another* point of view of Azeroth! |
| 05:49.43 | Sargeras | I'm still waiting for Mecha-Onyxia |
| 05:49.52 | ZorbaTHut | eh, not necessarily. they could decide to restrict it to a single continent |
| 05:49.59 | ZorbaTHut | or do something else with it entirely |
| 05:50.00 | Lunessa | And Mothra? |
| 05:50.04 | ZorbaTHut | comedy answer: |
| 05:50.08 | ZorbaTHut | emerald dream is pre-cataclysm azeroth |
| 05:50.25 | Sargeras | emerald dream is pre-Sunder azeroth |
| 05:50.33 | ZorbaTHut | haha, yessssss |
| 05:50.37 | Sargeras | ie: 1 continent |
| 05:50.38 | ZorbaTHut | I like the way you think :D |
| 05:50.59 | Sargeras | hugs Cairenn |
| 05:51.03 | ZorbaTHut | that'd actually work pretty dang well |
| 05:51.07 | Cairenn | hugs Sargeras |
| 05:51.40 | Sargeras | imagine connecting the entire landscape of the old world |
| 05:51.45 | Sargeras | and that be one instance |
| 05:51.57 | Sargeras | well |
| 05:52.00 | Sargeras | maybe not one instance |
| 05:52.14 | Sargeras | reminds of me Plane of Growth in EQ1 |
| 05:52.21 | ZorbaTHut | if I were them I'd slam the continents together, get rid of the dead space in between |
| 05:52.28 | ZorbaTHut | then call that one continent |
| 05:53.04 | Thrae | Maybe after the events of Cataclysm, the Maelstrom gains force, threatening to soon push the continents back together, and you need to deal with the Maelstrom and the Emerald Dream (with the Maelstrom already having a role in Cataclysm). |
| 05:53.38 | Thrae | They said they're saving Lady Azshara for a future expansion beyond Cataclysm.... |
| 05:53.40 | Lunessa | Plane of Growth... YUK |
| 05:53.53 | Sargeras | I always got lost there |
| 05:55.13 | Thrae | There could be multiple forces that go into the Emerald Dream: Those that want it to stay as it is, those that want to merge it with Azeroth, those that want to destroy it or anyone else before that can happen, and those that just live there. |
| 05:56.48 | Thrae | After all that's happened to Azeroth -- The Sundering, the Dark Portal, the Cataclysm, and then the quickening of the Maelstrom, maybe some demigods want to use the Emerald Dream to "reset" Azeroth back to natural beauty. The question would be, would that "reset" include wiping out everything or a friendly merger to fix the various problems of Azeroth. |
| 05:57.38 | Arrowmaster | i thought one of the old gods was corrupting the emerald dream? |
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| 06:25.06 | ZorbaTHut | I don't think we really know what's going on with the emerald dream yet |
| 06:29.22 | Arrowmaster | except that there is one big angry green dragon in it |
| 06:30.02 | Kraps | who went insane? |
| 06:30.12 | Kraps | thats getting old |
| 06:32.33 | ZorbaTHut | we really know absolutely nothing about the emerald dream at this point |
| 06:32.38 | ZorbaTHut | snatches of half-explained plot |
| 06:33.28 | ZorbaTHut | if Thrall does end up turning into Malfurion Junior then I'm expecting to learn a lot more |
| 06:33.32 | Adys | Arrowmaster: i have two directories with a bunch of subdirs and files, and want to move all the content of a specific directory into another, keeping paths |
| 06:33.36 | Adys | how would I do that? |
| 06:33.42 | Adys | basically update one dir with another |
| 06:34.11 | Adys | `mv interface/worldmaps/arathi maps` will complain that maps/arathi isnt empty |
| 06:34.14 | ZorbaTHut | rsync a b |
| 06:34.23 | ZorbaTHut | probably many other approaches |
| 06:34.51 | Adys | ZorbaTHut: probably easier with mv no? |
| 06:34.57 | Arrowmaster | `mv interface/worldmaps/arathi/* maps/arathi` |
| 06:35.30 | Adys | Arrowmaster: but I have a bunch of subdirs in worldmaps/, how do I update it all at once? |
| 06:35.47 | Arrowmaster | `mv interface/worldmaps/* maps` |
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| 06:36.15 | ZorbaTHut | it seems like it's hard to get simpler than "rsync interface/worldmaps maps" |
| 06:36.18 | Adys | Arrowmaster: thats what im doing, it complains |
| 06:36.28 | ZorbaTHut | (might have to be "rsync interface/worldmaps/* maps") |
| 06:36.34 | Arrowmaster | it shouldnt complain |
| 06:36.50 | ZorbaTHut | arrow, mv generally tries to move directory tree entries |
| 06:36.56 | ZorbaTHut | and generally will not do anything clever and recursive |
| 06:37.09 | ZorbaTHut | if interface/worldmaps/arathi exists, and maps/arathi exists, it'll just halt. |
| 06:37.10 | Adys | Arrowmaster: Im updating, the target dir isnt empty |
| 06:37.31 | Adys | mv: cannot move `interface/worldmap/zangarmarsh' to `maps/zangarmarsh': Directory not empty |
| 06:37.31 | Adys | mv: cannot move `interface/worldmap/zuldrak' to `maps/zuldrak': Directory not empty |
| 06:37.48 | Adys | ZorbaTHut: getting an error with rsync, sec |
| 06:38.32 | Adys | ZorbaTHut: yeah its skipping every directory |
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| 06:38.39 | ZorbaTHut | which, rsync is? |
| 06:38.42 | Adys | yes |
| 06:38.52 | ZorbaTHut | oh wait, add -avP as flags |
| 06:39.25 | Adys | cute! |
| 06:39.35 | ZorbaTHut | forgot that rsync does surprisingly little without -a |
| 06:39.44 | Adys | very slow, but cute |
| 06:39.51 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, it's copying, not moving |
| 06:39.55 | ZorbaTHut | I don't know if there's a way to get it to move |
| 06:40.03 | Adys | i think the slow part is from the diffing |
| 06:40.16 | Adys | since its supposed to be transfer size-efficient |
| 06:40.19 | ZorbaTHut | it probably doesn't diff on a local system, just clobbers |
| 06:40.36 | Adys | sent 182683821 bytes received 66628 bytes 2667889.77 bytes/sec |
| 06:41.01 | ZorbaTHut | rsync is an excellent tool :) |
| 06:41.23 | Adys | it does look like one yea |
| 06:41.57 | ZorbaTHut | you can rsync directly over ssh. it's pretty neat. |
| 06:43.47 | Adys | http://paste2.org/p/819188 hurrrrrr cataclysm |
| 06:44.35 | Adys | I've learned to really love git |
| 06:45.00 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, me too. |
| 06:45.06 | ZorbaTHut | git is excellent. |
| 06:45.22 | ZorbaTHut | I merged two entire separate git repos a bit ago. took me around two minutes. |
| 06:45.57 | ZorbaTHut | oh speaking of which the full questhelper build code is now in the questhelper repo, some parts you might find interesting |
| 06:46.14 | Adys | maybe in a few weeks, Im swamped atm |
| 06:46.25 | ZorbaTHut | no worries, just thought I'd mention it |
| 06:46.36 | Adys | between updating some django branches, wine 1.2, cataclysm, python image and my own games :P |
| 06:46.40 | ZorbaTHut | it's got neat stuff like my private server detection, distributed build code, and solid blob generation :) |
| 06:48.22 | Adys | ZorbaTHut, you ever messed with image formats in c/++? |
| 06:48.36 | Adys | well actually |
| 06:48.39 | ZorbaTHut | a little, though mostly lately I just lean on libraries |
| 06:48.47 | Adys | you ever messed with python's c++ bindings? :p |
| 06:48.51 | ZorbaTHut | nope! :) |
| 06:48.55 | Adys | boo |
| 06:49.08 | Adys | I need to recode a bunch of image decoders in C |
| 06:49.09 | ZorbaTHut | I dabbled in python a bit but I was never really happy with it |
| 06:49.11 | Adys | the dxt ones namely |
| 06:49.26 | ZorbaTHut | I heard a bunch of bad stories about python C++ bindings and never ended up exploring them myself. |
| 06:49.39 | Adys | such as |
| 06:49.40 | Adys | ? |
| 06:50.06 | ZorbaTHut | mostly that they were an incredible pain |
| 06:50.25 | ZorbaTHut | that even starting up a working python interpreter from within C++ was stunningly unfun, and it just didn't get better from there. |
| 06:50.44 | Adys | well a lot of people use them expecting them to be a way to use python in C++ directly or some shit |
| 06:50.52 | Adys | which goes a long way to disappoint |
| 06:51.02 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, fair 'nuff, that just isn't going to happen :) |
| 06:51.28 | Adys | Man; I just recoded the map builder to use some neat autodetection classes for multilevel and shiz |
| 06:53.02 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNPCI8y9avc&feature=player_embedded#! |
| 06:57.24 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/static/img/maps/unrevealed/elwynn.png |
| 06:57.31 | Adys | it's weird seeing those maps like that |
| 06:57.42 | Adys | it's like you've been ported back in time 6 years |
| 07:00.37 | Wobin | On Monday, federal agents investigating the attempted Time Square bombing arrested Pakistani-born U.S. citizen Faisal Shahzad, better known by his terrorist nickname: Muhammad Al Corey Feldman. -Seth Meyers, Saturday Night Live: Weekend Update |
| 07:00.41 | Wobin | lol =P |
| 07:08.13 | Kraps | so, this is an interesting name for a playlist http://www.vevo.com/watch/playlist/white-people-that-i-like/146223 |
| 07:13.31 | Wobin | female worgen eh? |
| 07:14.21 | Wobin | very anubisy |
| 07:16.59 | mikma | adys: umm, what |
| 07:28.00 | Wobin | this ^ |
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| 07:30.12 | Dagmar | Missed Children's Week by 8 minutes. |
| 07:30.16 | Dagmar | FUUU-UUUU- |
| 07:30.38 | Lunessa | I got it finished today. *smug* 310% mount. :) |
| 07:31.15 | Dagmar | Meh. I can go do CoS pretty much any time I decide to, but I jsut wanted the other little Northrend moron pet |
| 07:31.39 | Dagmar | They can take that time lost drake and shove it into their collective orifices after that Lunar reset |
| 07:33.12 | Lunessa | Oh the PVP stuff was pissing me off, but I stuck it out. |
| 07:37.06 | Dagmar | I didn't really have a problem with doing the PvP stuff |
| 07:37.28 | Dagmar | I'm just not spending hours upon hours tracking down demented senior citizens all over Azeroth again |
| 07:37.56 | Dagmar | There's a point at which you have to just let nature take it's course with the senile. |
| 07:38.31 | Dagmar | I'd tracked about 3/4 of them down last year. This year, every bit of it had reset. |
| 07:40.12 | Torhal | Dagmar: Weird. My dungeon Elders hadn't reset |
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| 07:56.45 | ZorbaTHut | I'm still mildly pissed at the US northrend pets botch |
| 07:56.58 | ZorbaTHut | c'mon guys, how many times have you flubbed a yearly quest reset? |
| 07:57.05 | ZorbaTHut | it's kind of ridiculous by now |
| 08:00.33 | Iriel | They only get to test it once a year? 8-) |
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| 08:04.04 | Cairenn | rofl! http://www.safenow.org/ |
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| 08:18.05 | zenzelezz | :) |
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| 08:25.55 | zenzelezz | http://www.edge-online.com/blogs/why-won%E2%80%99t-you-let-me-be-stupid - this annoys me too |
| 08:34.52 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/05/09/funny-pictures-mom-loves-you/ :-) |
| 08:35.25 | Cairenn | awwwww |
| 08:39.38 | Adys | mikma: well seeing minimap-maps on the world maps of the old world zones is weird |
| 08:39.43 | Adys | havent had that in years :P |
| 08:44.24 | mikma | adys: didn't carbonite and ckk-map do that |
| 08:44.44 | Adys | mikma: those are the game's worldmaps in current 4.0 build |
| 08:44.47 | Adys | not yet remade |
| 08:45.05 | Adys | eg http://db.mmo-champion.com/static/img/maps/unrevealed/thousandneedles.png |
| 08:45.09 | mikma | lol what, real maps? |
| 08:45.14 | Adys | yes |
| 08:45.25 | Adys | they're like this before they work on drawing them |
| 08:45.47 | mikma | why not use the real maps instead of those comic maps |
| 08:45.49 | mikma | pfff! |
| 08:46.49 | Adys | its funny to compare minimaps between pre-cata and post-cata |
| 08:47.06 | Adys | all the straight-line color changes in the middle of mountains are just shaded |
| 08:47.08 | Adys | but still there |
| 09:05.55 | airtonix | does that mean razorfen downs will be a lvl80+ dungeon |
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| 09:17.29 | Trela | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpqxSBclqWs&feature=related |
| 09:29.37 | Wobin | ... whut |
| 09:34.13 | mikma | adys: heh well, they kinda had to do something because of the flying mounts :D |
| 09:34.27 | mikma | fading the zonechanges is simple enough |
| 09:34.34 | Adys | yea |
| 09:36.26 | nevcairiel | The elwynn minimap-map looks like the old elwynn though |
| 09:37.01 | mikma | except youcan se stormwind being bigger and better |
| 09:37.32 | mikma | and the borders are not "straight-line color changes" |
| 09:38.48 | mikma | adys: are there more of those images? |
| 09:39.23 | Adys | mikma: http://dpaste.com/192344/ |
| 09:39.49 | mikma | danke! |
| 09:40.03 | mikma | lol wat, http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2010/may/catazones/redridge_01.jpg |
| 09:40.10 | Adys | yeah |
| 09:40.12 | mikma | redridge bridge ain't repaied |
| 09:40.14 | mikma | red* |
| 09:40.39 | Adys | the horde rebuilding two huge cities |
| 09:40.42 | Adys | creating new harbors |
| 09:40.43 | Adys | meanwhile |
| 09:40.51 | Adys | those guys are still stuck on their bridge. |
| 09:41.08 | nevcairiel | yeah all the questing there was for nothing |
| 09:41.12 | mikma | something funky is happening at the south end of mulgore |
| 09:41.28 | Adys | mikma: http://db.mmo-champion.com/adys/azeroth_map.png |
| 09:41.31 | Adys | DO YOU SEE THE PENIS |
| 09:41.44 | nevcairiel | big image is big |
| 09:41.52 | mikma | wow |
| 09:41.59 | mikma | 7424x10752 |
| 09:42.05 | Adys | nevcairiel: if i wanted a big image, I'd just picture your mother! |
| 09:42.47 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/misc/drum.mp3 |
| 09:42.59 | Adys | http://instantrimshot.com/ tbh |
| 09:44.16 | mikma | oh man |
| 09:44.19 | nevcairiel | but it looks good, no gaps between the zones, so its ready for the flying action |
| 09:44.27 | mikma | the image still haven't loaded. slow iternets is slowwwwww |
| 09:44.35 | Adys | its 40mb :p |
| 09:44.42 | Adys | i have one of kalimdor too! |
| 09:44.44 | Adys | 65mb! |
| 09:44.49 | mikma | i wish i would be at home now |
| 09:45.10 | nevcairiel | hm |
| 09:45.12 | nevcairiel | i found a new zone |
| 09:45.25 | nevcairiel | south of silverpine, which is that? |
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| 09:45.51 | mikma | gilneas? |
| 09:45.53 | airtonix | lol load avergae 12.45, 6.34, 2.96 |
| 09:47.17 | nevcairiel | interesting, the horde got a harbour in arathi |
| 09:47.25 | mikma | nevcairiel: afaik, it should be the new worgen zone |
| 09:47.35 | nevcairiel | wait, thats not arathi |
| 09:47.38 | nevcairiel | thats below it |
| 09:48.05 | mikma | in current wow the gate there is "gate of gilneas" or something like that |
| 09:48.12 | mikma | atleast it pops the text when you go near it |
| 09:48.12 | Adys | greymane wall |
| 09:48.13 | Adys | :P |
| 09:48.14 | nevcairiel | another new zone then |
| 09:48.19 | Adys | man |
| 09:48.22 | mikma | well, something like that |
| 09:48.24 | Adys | do you guys read mmo-champion or what |
| 09:48.27 | nevcairiel | no |
| 09:48.29 | nevcairiel | i refuse to |
| 09:48.39 | nevcairiel | it would spoil all the fun |
| 09:48.46 | mikma | adys: i do, daily, several times eventho i don't have active wow-account |
| 09:48.47 | Adys | im spoiling all the fun right now. |
| 09:49.04 | Bibi | nevcairiel: did I tell you about Thrall and the Maelstrom? |
| 09:49.44 | mikma | did thrall do some badassery |
| 09:49.46 | nevcairiel | wth happend in the badlands |
| 09:49.51 | nevcairiel | some alien crash-landed there? |
| 09:49.55 | Adys | nevcairiel: YOU WANTED TO SEE THE COCK |
| 09:50.28 | mikma | i can't see the cock, yet |
| 09:51.21 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 09:51.44 | mikma | oh, new zone on the right side of wetlands |
| 09:51.55 | nevcairiel | there is a road from the swamplands to the burning steppes |
| 09:52.08 | mikma | and the lake of the lochmodan has almost dried up |
| 09:52.11 | nevcairiel | and looks like a alliance town with a harbour |
| 09:52.52 | nevcairiel | stranglethorn got a maelstrom in the middle? :D |
| 09:53.06 | mikma | yeah |
| 09:55.08 | nevcairiel | cant wait for beta to start and exploring all that |
| 09:55.27 | Adys | nevcairiel: http://db.mmo-champion.com/a/4827/surveying-the-damage/ ! |
| 09:56.34 | mikma | hmmmrph, 14592x14366! |
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| 09:56.52 | mikma | nevcairiel: actually, same here :P |
| 09:57.08 | mikma | eventho i don't like the idea of playing wow again |
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| 09:57.29 | mikma | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2010/may/cataclysm_models_npc/batch2/onyxiaundead.jpg |
| 09:57.32 | mikma | epic mount |
| 09:58.18 | mikma | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2010/may/cataclysm_models_npc/batch2/goblincar.jpg .. is this he goblin landmount? :D |
| 09:58.26 | nevcairiel | Adys: ha, nice |
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| 09:58.46 | nevcairiel | I would so play a goblin if that were a mount |
| 09:59.48 | mikma | elekk's got changedtoo |
| 10:00.24 | nevcairiel | ashenvale has a vulcano now o.o |
| 10:00.45 | mikma | and menethil harbor has sunken |
| 10:01.28 | nevcairiel | they finally build a proper road from theramore to the barrens :P |
| 10:02.09 | mikma | http://db.mmo-champion.com/static/img/maps/unrevealed/wetlands.png |
| 10:02.18 | nevcairiel | tanaris has alot of water too, sea is now going directly to gadget |
| 10:02.55 | mikma | thanks for reminding, need to check te map |
| 10:03.16 | nevcairiel | the zone below ungoro, between tanaris and silithus, looks kinda unfinished |
| 10:03.26 | mikma | heh, the piratebay has also sunken |
| 10:03.31 | mikma | and they hav seem to build a new one |
| 10:04.27 | mikma | thousand needles looks awesome |
| 10:04.45 | haste | it looks like a potential PITA tbh :P |
| 10:05.01 | nevcairiel | wow .. desolace got green |
| 10:05.03 | nevcairiel | wth |
| 10:05.10 | yoshimo | do you think we will be able to get the current state of phasing from the api? |
| 10:05.20 | haste | probably not |
| 10:05.38 | nevcairiel | there doesnt seem to be a reason to allow that |
| 10:05.53 | nevcairiel | there is alot more harbours in the world |
| 10:06.06 | mikma | the island in feralas has also sunken |
| 10:06.22 | nevcairiel | oh the second one |
| 10:06.23 | nevcairiel | yea |
| 10:06.49 | mikma | lol, gm island at the top of the kalimdor map :D |
| 10:06.58 | Adys | its always been there |
| 10:07.04 | Adys | couldnt be arsed to crop it |
| 10:07.37 | nevcairiel | whats the island iwth the numbers on it? |
| 10:07.51 | Adys | some test version of lost isles |
| 10:08.18 | eidolarr | ugh |
| 10:08.29 | eidolarr | can you do a shell redirect like >, but unbuffered? |
| 10:11.16 | mikma | aszhara hs received a buttload of changes |
| 10:13.14 | wereHamster | what's the fastest mount which I can use in kalimdor? |
| 10:13.30 | yoshimo | aszhara was ugly |
| 10:14.00 | yoshimo | and boring ;) |
| 10:14.31 | Wobin | aszhara was irritating because it took ages to cross |
| 10:14.34 | mikma | werehamster: .teleport xx,yy |
| 10:14.58 | mikma | the village under darnassus has been modified |
| 10:29.22 | Adys | nevcairiel ! |
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| 10:29.40 | nevcairiel | Adys ! |
| 10:29.52 | Adys | http://dpaste.com/192369/ |
| 10:30.08 | Adys | how do I make it use filename.jpg instead of filename.png.jpg ? |
| 10:31.04 | nevcairiel | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:31.45 | nevcairiel | eh, whatever your special $f construct is for anyway |
| 10:31.49 | Adys | any way to do that inline? |
| 10:31.54 | Adys | no i mean |
| 10:32.05 | Adys | ... wait a sec |
| 10:32.07 | Adys | im an idiot |
| 10:32.10 | Adys | nevermind! |
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| 10:56.49 | Maldivia | Adys: why loop? |
| 10:57.06 | Adys | i dont remember |
| 10:57.11 | Maldivia | Adys: mogrify -format jpg *.png |
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| 10:57.39 | Adys | Maldivia: yeah but what about the thumbnails? |
| 10:58.52 | Fisker | i'm so tired nevcairiel |
| 10:58.54 | Fisker | what can i do? |
| 10:59.03 | nevcairiel | die, then you can sleep for ever |
| 11:01.10 | wereHamster | mikma: Yeah, I can do that (.tele), but I'd rather explore the world by foot or with a mount. Well, I could use '.modify speed 10' to make myself go faster than any mount :) |
| 11:02.41 | Fisker | sweet nevcairiel |
| 11:02.45 | Fisker | how does that work? |
| 11:03.12 | Fisker | what's that german/austrian computer site again |
| 11:03.38 | Fisker | or should i say australian? |
| 11:03.41 | Fisker | YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAH |
| 11:04.27 | nevcairiel | what? the price compare thing? |
| 11:05.34 | Fisker | yeah |
| 11:05.40 | nevcairiel | geizhals.at |
| 11:06.01 | Fisker | ah |
| 11:06.05 | Fisker | thought it was heizhals.at :D |
| 11:09.07 | Fisker | i see my case have started appearing at retailers |
| 11:09.16 | nevcairiel | which? |
| 11:09.30 | Fisker | http://geizhals.at/a518802.html |
| 11:09.51 | nevcairiel | you should switch to the german list instead of the austrian list |
| 11:09.57 | nevcairiel | its cheaper that way |
| 11:10.12 | Fisker | i'm not actually buying anything from there :P |
| 11:10.22 | Fisker | i don't deal with nazis! |
| 11:10.44 | nevcairiel | you did before |
| 11:10.52 | Fisker | :(? |
| 11:11.02 | zenzelezz | it still ticks me off that I managed to buy two (different) heirloom shoulders... thankfully I only wasted Stonekeeper Shards |
| 11:11.23 | nevcairiel | somewhat expensive just for a case |
| 11:11.37 | Fisker | about the same price as the corsair 800d |
| 11:12.12 | Fisker | The only thing Corsairs got going over the Lian Li is cable management |
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| 11:12.27 | nevcairiel | was that the one with the cable management behind the mainboard plate? |
| 11:12.36 | nevcairiel | with the holes in it? |
| 11:12.37 | Fisker | yeah |
| 11:12.42 | nevcairiel | that did look nice |
| 11:12.53 | Fisker | http://www.dvhardware.net/news/corsair_800d_2.jpg |
| 11:13.17 | nevcairiel | but not paying ~300 for a case |
| 11:14.08 | zenzelezz | I don't like cases with that separating plate at the bottom |
| 11:14.47 | Fisker | Well it's not one i'm getting soon i think |
| 11:14.48 | Vangual | love my cm690 II adv case, more features, great manufacturing and half those prices |
| 11:14.50 | nevcairiel | if the case is big enough, its all good |
| 11:15.05 | Fisker | probably when i upgrade to the nextgen x58 boards |
| 11:15.08 | Fisker | if i even do that |
| 11:15.37 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: I've only had one such case, but in order to fit the PSU, I had to remove a fan they had put at the bottom; getting the cables pulled to harddrives and stuff was tricky, and I kept feeling the PSU was hotter than normal |
| 11:15.39 | nevcairiel | I have a antec 300, its a tiny bit too small, but otherwise pretty nice |
| 11:15.49 | zenzelezz | so it's not a well-based opinion, but it made me cautious of them |
| 11:17.01 | nevcairiel | I'll get a new case when i upgrade to the next gen stuff |
| 11:17.03 | nevcairiel | next year or so |
| 11:18.17 | zenzelezz | when trying out Anarchy Online again yesterday, I noticed something funny... camera movement using the keyboard seemed way too fast on my computer |
| 11:18.18 | mikma | cairenn: omg omg kick werehamster, he's using privateservers!!!!!!! |
| 11:19.09 | zenzelezz | I'm guessing camera movement (in AO) is somehow slightly FPS-based... quicker drawing, quicker movement |
| 11:19.37 | nevcairiel | like the old ego shooters, more fps, you jump longer distances :d |
| 11:19.51 | zenzelezz | O_o really? |
| 11:20.14 | nevcairiel | Quake3 had that issue, until they learned and un-linked the physics from the fps |
| 11:21.04 | zenzelezz | in Anarchy Online, jump height and distance was determined by a combination of your run speed (a separate skill you could invest points in to increase) and - I think - one of your base attributes |
| 11:21.19 | zenzelezz | was nice, gave high-level players a way to jump onto high buildings, avoiding low-level players |
| 11:24.07 | zenzelezz | I think AO could've been a pretty cool MMO if they remade it with today's technology and knowledge of game systems |
| 11:24.38 | Fisker | i remember in CS the lower the FPS the lower your jumps were reduced |
| 11:26.52 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/jhj.jpg -> http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/abeama.jpg |
| 11:27.28 | zenzelezz | mikma: lol |
| 11:27.34 | nevcairiel | lua> tonumber(true) |
| 11:27.42 | nevcairiel | bah no bot |
| 11:27.54 | nevcairiel | jnwhiteh: lua_bot is missing =( |
| 11:28.28 | mikma | !lua print("poop") |
| 11:28.28 | batbot | mikma: poop |
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| 12:22.04 | A-KO | hm |
| 12:22.09 | A-KO | is there a way to output all cvars in WoW? |
| 12:22.17 | A-KO | there's cvarlist in the console but the buffer cuts off |
| 12:24.10 | Adys | !api cvar |
| 12:26.15 | zenzelezz | don't know about cvars, but I remember once dumping everything in _G or something to my chat frame... WoW crawled |
| 12:30.07 | A-KO | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jcHnDfph8I < this looks interesting |
| 12:33.37 | zenzelezz | volumetric light? Cool |
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| 12:41.35 | Zasurus | Hi all. Does anyone know about the maps and overlays? I am trying to find the center of each overlay for my addon |
| 12:47.13 | Adys | Zasurus: shoot |
| 12:48.08 | haste | didn't he/she already ask? |
| 12:49.11 | Zasurus | Thank :-) I have a addon that needs the center of each overlay for the map (as in the area's you have already discovered) |
| 12:49.36 | Zasurus | I can get the Overlay offset x and y which is a number between 1-1000 (i think) |
| 12:51.01 | Zasurus | but to use astrolabe i need the fraction of the x and y of the map so for example 0.5,0.5 for the center... BUT I can't get the map's size in the same units as the ofset is... I am getting the offset with GetMapOverlayInfo |
| 12:52.42 | Zasurus | Any idea? |
| 13:02.20 | zenzelezz | you've come at a quiet time of day; if you stick around someone who knows might wake up later |
| 13:04.35 | nevcairiel | also a quiet day |
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| 13:09.42 | Zasurus | Thanks :-) |
| 13:23.30 | haste | stay a while and listen! |
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| 13:51.26 | Fisker | haste |
| 13:51.29 | Fisker | i also hate blizzard |
| 13:51.55 | zenzelezz | y so h8? |
| 13:52.40 | Fisker | it's overzealous |
| 13:52.58 | Adys | Shirik |
| 13:53.02 | Adys | you're going to like this one |
| 13:53.17 | Adys | (04:51:27 PM) Adys: return __builtin___memcpy_chk (__dest, __src, __len, __bos0 (__dest)); |
| 13:53.17 | Adys | (04:51:50 PM) teomyr: _did__i__mention__i__like__underscores_ |
| 13:53.17 | Adys | (04:52:15 PM) Adys: __you_sound__just____like_that__python__guy_ |
| 13:53.42 | zenzelezz | :-p |
| 13:54.32 | Shirik | ... |
| 13:55.08 | Shirik | I'm going to make a langguage where the defined compiler behavior for using excessive underscores in variables is to cause your computer to explode |
| 13:55.15 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: ^ |
| 13:55.18 | Adys | thats C, fyi |
| 13:55.53 | Adys | anyway Shirik, I need your strange affinities with the win32 api |
| 13:56.10 | Shirik | why >< |
| 13:56.15 | Adys | http://bugs2.winehq.org/attachment.cgi?id=21690 |
| 13:56.16 | Adys | for this |
| 13:56.18 | Shirik | hahaha |
| 13:56.20 | Shirik | ok not now |
| 13:56.22 | Shirik | when I get home |
| 13:56.27 | Adys | fu |
| 13:56.27 | Adys | :( |
| 13:56.29 | Shirik | I'm currently at the train station |
| 13:56.34 | Shirik | and about to leave |
| 13:56.37 | Adys | thats a great place to debug stuff |
| 13:56.41 | Shirik | no |
| 13:56.45 | Adys | it is |
| 13:56.46 | Shirik | because any second now I'm going to leave |
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| 14:12.30 | Kraps | morning |
| 14:12.49 | A-KO | I find that sometimes one just needs to lay down the law |
| 14:16.06 | Wobin | You shot the sherrif? |
| 14:16.20 | mikma | but did not shoot the deputy |
| 14:18.32 | Kraps | Wobin: mikma: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSQvc6VWrPY |
| 14:19.23 | mikma | kraps: yeah, i have that dvdrip :D |
| 14:19.27 | mikma | kraps: "jaa" |
| 14:20.34 | Wobin | ... |
| 14:20.41 | Wobin | the credits are longer than the sketch |
| 14:21.07 | Wobin | signal to noise ratio is loooow =P |
| 14:25.27 | Kraps | childrens week is over? |
| 14:25.29 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=wobin&aq=f |
| 14:28.44 | Fisker | bitchduck Kraps |
| 14:29.16 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=mikma&aq=f |
| 14:29.26 | Wobin | MIKMA WILL FIND YOUUUUUUU!!!! |
| 14:29.39 | mikma | omg, is me! |
| 14:32.02 | Wobin | wtf is mikma was here? |
| 14:32.20 | airtonix | something about old guys with grey hair |
| 14:32.43 | Zyn | the writing next to his rectal orifice he found the next morning |
| 14:34.05 | airtonix | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA32ikd9B34 |
| 14:34.15 | mikma | wobin: who knows |
| 14:34.35 | Wobin | airtonix, that ... was bizzare |
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| 14:36.00 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdoHHK27RMM&feature=channel |
| 14:37.12 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcoMzyPVT9M |
| 14:37.16 | mikma | i enjoy the real things |
| 14:37.39 | Wobin | sounds like a hyena |
| 14:42.05 | airtonix | most of the blue heelers i knew made that sound when they were desperate for any reason |
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| 14:42.34 | Wobin | he's GOTTA GOOOO! |
| 14:42.35 | airtonix | owner gone: desperate, cat outside : desperate, food on table and not on floor : desperate |
| 14:43.00 | Wobin | "omg I'm in the car: desperate"? |
| 14:43.00 | airtonix | no they just piss whereever... filthy creatures |
| 14:43.11 | cbreak | hmm... I am 1v1 copper... |
| 14:44.39 | zenzelezz | in time, you will be a 1v1 iron |
| 14:44.56 | cbreak | sounds like alchemy |
| 14:45.19 | haste | wowi is incredibly slow atm :( |
| 14:49.28 | Fisker | haste is incredibly slow atm |
| 14:49.35 | haste | Fisker is always slow :( |
| 14:49.42 | Fisker | :( |
| 14:49.49 | zenzelezz | Fisker is not just slow, he's stuck in a loop |
| 14:50.46 | haste | a busy loop as well |
| 14:56.13 | Wobin | haste... isn't? |
| 14:57.28 | haste | Wobin: :( ? |
| 14:57.45 | Wobin | if you're slow, you're not living up to the name |
| 14:59.06 | haste | I thought you meant I was a busy loop as well ! |
| 15:02.14 | airtonix | deduction you didnt |
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| 15:27.08 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 15:28.29 | haste | hey Fisker |
| 15:32.22 | mikma | cairenn: http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/vasy.jpg |
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| 15:35.57 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jcHnDfph8I |
| 15:36.07 | Kraps | hawt |
| 15:37.51 | Wobin | noice |
| 15:37.52 | nevcairiel | !lua nil or (not 1000 and 100 or nil) |
| 15:37.52 | batbot | nevcairiel: > nil |
| 15:37.57 | Wobin | and mikma d'awwww |
| 15:38.04 | nevcairiel | !lua nil or (not nil and 100 or nil) |
| 15:38.04 | batbot | nevcairiel: > 100 |
| 15:38.24 | Wobin | wow, the sun actually moves? |
| 15:43.02 | airtonix | Fisker, feel my god rays |
| 15:43.47 | A-KO | you know what WoW needs? |
| 15:43.50 | A-KO | some volumetric clouds to fly through |
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| 15:48.09 | cbreak | and after you enter them, your turbines stop, your wind shields become opaque and you crash? |
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| 15:48.24 | A-KO | lol |
| 15:49.38 | mikma | like, volcanic ash? |
| 15:50.42 | nevcairiel | takes a note to not fly his helicopter through clouds |
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| 15:54.47 | Wobin | the roflcopter should totally fail every now and again |
| 15:54.57 | Wobin | and crash causing death |
| 15:55.28 | mikma | blades should pop out every now and then and you would be catapulted out with parachute |
| 15:56.30 | airtonix | or without |
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| 16:03.52 | nevcairiel | man those god rays make for awesome athmosphere |
| 16:06.34 | Shirik | Thunder_Child, do you know what "DO" is in Canon's 400mm DO IS? |
| 16:06.42 | Shirik | f/4L DO IS |
| 16:06.55 | Shirik | it seems to increase the price insanely |
| 16:07.21 | airtonix | Diabolical Override ? |
| 16:07.35 | Shirik | "diffraction optics that reduces its size and weight considerably compared to other lenses of this reach and aperture" apparently |
| 16:07.56 | airtonix | Demonic Oracle |
| 16:08.05 | Wobin | Differential Optical |
| 16:08.18 | Wobin | http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/lenses/400-do.shtml |
| 16:08.30 | Wobin | it's smaller and lighter, effectively |
| 16:08.33 | Wobin | so more expensive |
| 16:08.37 | airtonix | like pixies |
| 16:09.14 | Cide | diffractive optics according to your link, Wobin :P |
| 16:09.48 | Wobin | eh |
| 16:09.50 | Wobin | it's 2am |
| 16:10.05 | Wobin | not sure where I pulled differential from |
| 16:11.08 | Cide | studying too much calculus |
| 16:11.56 | Xinhuan | "corruptor speed increased from 2.75 to 2.9531" |
| 16:12.01 | Xinhuan | how do they come up with that number |
| 16:12.05 | Cide | easy |
| 16:12.07 | Cide | balance testing |
| 16:12.08 | Wobin | calculus |
| 16:12.14 | Cide | 2.953 was deemed too weak |
| 16:13.25 | Fisker | Cide |
| 16:13.28 | Fisker | btw Shirik |
| 16:14.47 | Cide | Fisker |
| 16:14.49 | Cide | btw Fisker |
| 16:20.59 | Fisker | Cide |
| 16:21.01 | Fisker | btw Cide |
| 16:21.52 | airtonix | 1/10 |
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| 16:37.21 | Shirik | gahh |
| 16:37.25 | Shirik | where is Thunder_Child I can't decide |
| 16:37.34 | airtonix | behind you |
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| 16:40.53 | Shirik | or Iriel |
| 16:40.55 | Shirik | where's Iriel |
| 16:40.57 | Fisker | btw Shirik |
| 16:41.00 | Shirik | someone in here has a 5D |
| 16:41.02 | Shirik | WobWork? |
| 16:41.04 | Shirik | I think he did |
| 16:41.43 | Fisker | btw Shirik |
| 16:42.05 | airtonix | grins |
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| 16:42.46 | Thunder_Child | sneaks up behind Shirik |
| 16:42.50 | Shirik | Thunder_Child |
| 16:42.52 | Shirik | what do you think |
| 16:42.58 | Thunder_Child | many things |
| 16:43.03 | Shirik | I want to rent another lens for this upcoming trip |
| 16:43.17 | Shirik | I have 28-200 all covered, plus a 1.4x extender which takes me up to 280 |
| 16:43.36 | Shirik | I'm thinking about renting a 400mm |
| 16:43.47 | Shirik | do you think it's ok to skip 300-400? |
| 16:44.11 | Shirik | if I get a 400mm, that gives me 400mm and 560mm |
| 16:44.21 | Shirik | if I get a 300mm, that gives me 300mm and |
| 16:44.27 | Shirik | lua> 300 * 1.4 |
| 16:44.58 | Shirik | whatever that is |
| 16:45.00 | Thunder_Child | 420 |
| 16:45.00 | Shirik | fu lua_bot |
| 16:45.07 | mikma | !lua 300 * 1.4 |
| 16:45.07 | batbot | mikma: > 420 |
| 16:45.27 | Thunder_Child | ~300*1.4 |
| 16:45.27 | purl | 420 |
| 16:45.57 | Shirik | I'm thinking it's ok to skip 300-400 because my camera's got pretty good resolution |
| 16:46.00 | Thunder_Child | what are you taking pictures of Shirik, and where are you going? |
| 16:46.05 | Shirik | going to Sedona |
| 16:46.12 | Shirik | this lens is probably going to be for wildlife |
| 16:46.21 | Shirik | the others would be for landscape |
| 16:46.46 | Fisker | sneaks up behind Thunder_Child |
| 16:46.48 | Fisker | MANTRAIN! |
| 16:47.03 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: going to have a jeep? |
| 16:47.12 | Shirik | sorta, yes |
| 16:47.17 | Shirik | me personally, no, but yes |
| 16:47.24 | Shirik | (I'm not going alone) |
| 16:47.30 | airtonix | real photographers use old russian tanks |
| 16:47.35 | Thunder_Child | then seeing as how you can mostly dirve anywhere in AZ, i would say that the 400 would be fine |
| 16:48.30 | Thunder_Child | just make sure it comes with a sun hood |
| 16:48.50 | Shirik | it does heh |
| 16:48.58 | Shirik | ok next question |
| 16:49.02 | Shirik | I have two options |
| 16:49.20 | Shirik | 400mm f/5.6 or 400mm f/4 DO IS |
| 16:49.38 | Shirik | the former is quite affordable, but the lack of IS scares me |
| 16:49.52 | Shirik | especially if it's going to be shooting at 560m |
| 16:50.25 | Shirik | not to ention that becoes a 560mm f/8 |
| 16:50.32 | Shirik | whereas the latter becomes a f/5.6 |
| 16:50.42 | Shirik | not sure that's a big deal though |
| 16:50.46 | Thunder_Child | well now you are talking a question of money, not whats better |
| 16:50.50 | Shirik | heh, true |
| 16:50.57 | Shirik | I guess it's obvious what's better |
| 16:51.12 | Thunder_Child | tripoed is your friend |
| 16:51.22 | airtonix | trifod |
| 16:51.26 | Shirik | I guess my real question is "for something like shots of hot air baloons or birds, do you think f/8 is too slow?" |
| 16:51.33 | Thunder_Child | unless you are shooting fast moving wildlife in which case you need the speed |
| 16:51.50 | Thunder_Child | umm...flying birds, yes. |
| 16:51.58 | Thunder_Child | other than that...all depends on the situation |
| 16:51.59 | Shirik | I agree |
| 16:53.34 | airtonix | you need a talking cat. |
| 16:53.50 | airtonix | no photography adventure is complete without one. |
| 16:54.00 | Thunder_Child | no more drugs for airtonix |
| 16:54.13 | Fisker | Thunder_Child |
| 16:54.19 | Fisker | mantrain? |
| 16:54.28 | Thunder_Child | later, i have to get going |
| 16:54.35 | airtonix | your photos are really boring aren't they Thunder_Child |
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| 16:54.55 | Thunder_Child | airtonix: depends on the person looking at them |
| 16:54.58 | Fisker | oh ok Thunder_Child |
| 16:55.01 | Thunder_Child | meanders off |
| 16:55.02 | Cidwel | hiya |
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| 16:56.19 | Jamash | blarrrrrrrgh |
| 16:56.51 | Jamash | note to self: get refills before running out of antidepressants, not after |
| 16:57.44 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd agree with that notation |
| 16:58.30 | Cidwel | is normal to receive more than 30 raidrosterupdate events in less than a second? |
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| 16:59.06 | airtonix | yes |
| 17:00.02 | Cidwel | lol |
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| 17:27.47 | Kraps | lol did taylor swift use "gay" as an insult in a song? >.< |
| 17:28.06 | airtonix | called someone happy ? |
| 17:28.35 | Kraps | no |
| 17:33.56 | ckknight | Kraps: which song? |
| 17:34.19 | zenzelezz | "Two white tigers, Rico and Kico, were born at Germany's Serengeti-Park zoo on March 8. According to The Times, the cubs are being hand-reared by surrogate parents after their tiger parents, Bianca and Paul, rejected them." |
| 17:34.28 | zenzelezz | http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/07/abandoned-white-tiger-cub_n_552537.html - the picture just screams "why don't you like me?" |
| 17:34.35 | Kraps | ckknight: "Picture to Burn" i like that song actually |
| 17:34.58 | Kraps | ckknight: http://www.pandora.com/music/song/taylor+swift/picture+to+burn#lyrics |
| 17:39.20 | ckknight | Kraps: pretty sure she meant that she was going to tell her friends that he liked cock |
| 17:39.30 | ckknight | so homosexual, not generically bad |
| 17:39.47 | airtonix | so not happy |
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| 17:45.04 | Gintaro | How to stop SUF from cropping NPC names ... hmmmm |
| 17:47.58 | foxlit | zenzelezz: http://i.huffpost.com/gadgets/slideshows/6402/slide_6402_84950_large.jpg?1273427263453 adorable, yeah! |
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| 18:21.28 | sylvanaar | i use the word gay as a pejorative all the time, just not about sexuality |
| 18:21.55 | sylvanaar | oops missed the timestamp |
| 18:28.27 | Fisker | you sylvanaar |
| 18:33.01 | industrial | wow this haskell shit is pretty cool let evens = [2 * x | x <- 1..10] doen |
| 18:33.24 | industrial | im in ur paradigm, makin ur lists |
| 18:41.57 | Cide | old |
| 18:42.09 | Cide | lots of languages have list comprehensions |
| 18:43.32 | airtonix | why so grumpy face ? |
| 18:48.25 | Jamash | list comprehensions are a feeble attempt to mimic true array semantics |
| 18:48.26 | Shirik | C++ has lists |
| 18:49.04 | Shirik | also industrial, l2matlab |
| 18:49.22 | Shirik | evens = [1..10..2] |
| 18:49.27 | Jamash | in a real language you'd just be able to say "evens = 2 * 1..10" |
| 18:49.34 | Shirik | no |
| 18:49.35 | Shirik | nonono |
| 18:49.38 | Shirik | bad Jamash |
| 18:49.46 | Shirik | 2*1..5 |
| 18:49.51 | Jamash | eh, whatever |
| 18:49.53 | Jamash | true |
| 18:49.54 | Shirik | oh wait |
| 18:49.59 | Shirik | I'm confused now |
| 18:50.01 | Jamash | wait oh |
| 18:50.05 | Jamash | now confused I'm |
| 18:50.05 | Shirik | you were right |
| 18:50.09 | Jamash | VICTOLY |
| 18:50.12 | Shirik | VICTOLY |
| 18:50.36 | Jamash | hi5s Shirik in slow-motion as a motorboat explodes in the background. |
| 18:54.23 | Cide | [2*x for x in range(1,10)] |
| 18:57.00 | airtonix | no in a real language you'd say give me a bunch of numbers |
| 18:57.22 | airtonix | and then spend a few hours arguing with the computer about the finer points of tantric sex |
| 18:57.36 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:00.25 | Kraps | MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM |
| 19:04.06 | Kraps | this topic should be given .3 shits. not even a full shit should be given. |
| 19:08.47 | Kraps | AM I SILLY FOR BEING AFRAID THAT CATA SCREENSHOTS WILL SPOIL IT FOR ME? |
| 19:09.34 | Maldivia | naah... you're just silly |
| 19:11.16 | Kraps | so's your mom's face |
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| 19:15.19 | Jamash | spoil what? |
| 19:15.28 | Jamash | ZOMG IT HAS DEATHWING IN IT |
| 19:16.24 | Kraps | Jamash: the zone shots |
| 19:18.41 | Jamash | it's really up to you, if you prefer to experience it yourself when cata launches, don't look at them |
| 19:18.45 | foxlit | http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#allowencodedslashes |
| 19:18.48 | foxlit | I wonder why that's there |
| 19:18.58 | foxlit | Apache basically 404's any URL with %2F in it |
| 19:24.20 | mikma | liar |
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| 19:32.22 | Adys | Cide: range(1,10)[::2] |
| 19:32.37 | Cide | fail |
| 19:32.43 | Cide | not equivalent |
| 19:33.04 | Adys | yeah but i dont think yours was equivalent to shirik's |
| 19:33.15 | Cide | shiriks wasn't the proper one |
| 19:33.28 | Adys | I DONT CAAAAAAAAARE IM RIGHT YOU'RE WRONG |
| 19:33.32 | Adys | or something |
| 19:33.38 | mikma | i am right you are left |
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| 19:33.53 | airtonix | you're both missing arguments with computers |
| 19:34.11 | mikma | internet! lose lose retards! |
| 19:38.37 | Thrae | I got Hogger down to 30% at Level 7. I think I can beat him at Level 8. |
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| 19:43.08 | airtonix | http://lookpic.com/i/103/wP92m3V0.jpeg |
| 19:45.44 | Kraps | wtb, airtonix |
| 19:46.43 | olafski | uldum looks like a seriously serious dungeon |
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| 19:49.48 | Mr_Rabies | maid droid is on netflix instant watch |
| 19:50.01 | Mr_Rabies | also it's basically porn |
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| 19:58.34 | mikma | http://www.mulletoi.com/shop/etusivu/top-tuotteet/prod__2514_itamaan_ihmeen_viiksi-peruukkisetti |
| 19:58.49 | mikma | wig and mustaches 14.90e |
| 19:59.10 | ScytheBlade1 | so, does anyone have a das keyboard? |
| 19:59.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Because I'm really debating one |
| 19:59.38 | ScytheBlade1 | but $135+S&H is.. a lot |
| 19:59.38 | mikma | das? |
| 19:59.49 | ScytheBlade1 | http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-40922258946781_2104_336299 |
| 19:59.58 | ScytheBlade1 | silent, mechanical "clicky" keyboard |
| 20:00.03 | zenzelezz | "$135+S&H"... at first I thought this was assembly |
| 20:00.08 | ScytheBlade1 | USB hub, no labels on the keys |
| 20:00.38 | Vangual | keyboard for masochists or? |
| 20:00.53 | olafski | yeah |
| 20:00.57 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm using an oldschool PS/2 mechanical keyboard |
| 20:01.02 | ScytheBlade1 | I hate "soft" keyboards |
| 20:01.07 | olafski | for people who want to go nuts hearing clickety click all day :) |
| 20:01.10 | ScytheBlade1 | But the cord is really, really short :( |
| 20:01.17 | ScytheBlade1 | hey now, I *requested* one of those for work |
| 20:01.25 | ScytheBlade1 | I actually find that noise kinda comforting :p |
| 20:01.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Sure, the hardware guy gave me a funny look and asked if I was joking, but it was worth it |
| 20:02.04 | Vangual | what's the reasoning behind the lack of labels? |
| 20:02.06 | ScytheBlade1 | So much nicer than the generic soft-touch keyboards |
| 20:02.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Makes you memorize key location, you MUST touch-type |
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| 20:02.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Which I do, for everything but the symbols at the top of the keyboard |
| 20:02.45 | olafski | I do it for everything.. but I still like having labels |
| 20:02.46 | airtonix | also, when you press the daily lotto combo of keys in order it blows up |
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| 20:02.56 | olafski | not to mention it helps if other people can use my pc |
| 20:03.12 | ScytheBlade1 | You can also switch it to dvorak or any other language without needing to manually move keys |
| 20:03.17 | ScytheBlade1 | And that's a bonus for me ;) |
| 20:03.37 | Jamash | you can switch any keyboard to dvorak without having to move keys |
| 20:03.38 | bluspacecow | \o |
| 20:03.38 | Vangual | makes it hard for others to peek on your password entry :P |
| 20:03.43 | bluspacecow | todays entertainment |
| 20:03.44 | bluspacecow | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=24702403739&postId=246996818088&sid=1#2 |
| 20:03.48 | bluspacecow | sorry for xposting |
| 20:05.02 | ScytheBlade1 | honest question though: does anyone else here prefer a mechanical keyboard? |
| 20:05.02 | Jamash | bluspacecow: I can't understand the OP at all |
| 20:05.02 | A-KO | I don't like the noise they make when I type, I type > 130 wpm when I'm just "thinking" |
| 20:05.02 | bluspacecow | me neither |
| 20:05.02 | A-KO | and it can wake people up |
| 20:05.02 | bluspacecow | he does this a lot |
| 20:05.06 | Shadowed | I'm confused |
| 20:05.20 | Shadowed | It sounds like he just vomited words into a post |
| 20:05.22 | bluspacecow | a hay roll would roll past his window and he will try to pin his bad luck in pvp on it |
| 20:05.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Okay, despite me being woken up by someone slowly walking two stores up, I can honestly say I've never been woken up by such a keyboard |
| 20:05.57 | ScytheBlade1 | You people are weird |
| 20:06.07 | airtonix | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1467304/ |
| 20:06.14 | Jamash | I like how he's accusing in-game motorcycle cops for messing up his framerate |
| 20:07.47 | Kraps | airtonix: no, just no |
| 20:08.18 | Jamash | airtonix: where do you live, so I can come over and set you on fire |
| 20:08.28 | Kraps | ^ |
| 20:08.46 | olafski | scytheblade1: I very much do not prefer such a keyboard ;) |
| 20:08.47 | airtonix | im locked in a padded cell next to fisker |
| 20:08.52 | ScytheBlade1 | olafski: even if silent? |
| 20:08.57 | Jamash | that explains a lot |
| 20:09.04 | olafski | oh.. I thought with mechanical you meant clicky |
| 20:09.17 | ScytheBlade1 | They make mechanical noisy and mechanical silent |
| 20:09.33 | Jamash | what do you mean by "mechanical"? |
| 20:09.34 | ScytheBlade1 | The "hard tacticle response" is what I'm curious |
| 20:09.44 | ScytheBlade1 | It makes a VERY DEFINED, HARD "click" when pressed |
| 20:09.50 | ScytheBlade1 | It is 110% obvious when you have pressed a button |
| 20:10.03 | olafski | hm I generally assume I pressed it right |
| 20:10.09 | olafski | my keyboards are quite quiet |
| 20:10.23 | airtonix | 4hr discussion on keyboards GO! |
| 20:10.37 | bluspacecow | kk |
| 20:10.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Compare an oldschool IBM Model M to a Microsoft "ergonomic, soft-press" keyboard |
| 20:10.39 | Jamash | I have a laptop |
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| 20:10.41 | bluspacecow | my old guild leader |
| 20:10.42 | ScytheBlade1 | That's what I mean |
| 20:10.42 | Jamash | end of story |
| 20:10.54 | bluspacecow | used to have a cupboard full of them |
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| 20:11.07 | olafski | I think I prefer the MS ones |
| 20:11.11 | olafski | in fact that's what I'm using now ;) |
| 20:11.12 | bluspacecow | cause on certain raid encounters "GGGRRRRR )#(&(&(&#((#$*&#(@$(#$&(*#@&$ ARGGGHHHH" *broken keyboard* |
| 20:11.14 | olafski | MS Comfort Curve 2000 |
| 20:11.15 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 20:11.36 | A-KO | WoW needs volumetric clouds :( |
| 20:11.40 | A-KO | that would be so kick ass |
| 20:11.51 | Jamash | it's getting god beams |
| 20:11.59 | A-KO | I know |
| 20:12.06 | airtonix | http://img.directindustry.com/images_di/photo-g/vandal-proof-stainless-steel-keyboard-285224.jpg |
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| 20:14.25 | Kraps | what the mmoc armory called? |
| 20:14.36 | olafski | they have an armory too now? :s |
| 20:14.37 | Shadowed | MMOC doesn't have an armory |
| 20:15.02 | Thrae | Man, not that hard to defeat Hogger at Level 8 by yourself. |
| 20:15.16 | Kraps | grrr |
| 20:15.19 | olafski | indeed.. especially with heirlooms =) |
| 20:15.26 | Guest4369 | MMOC ? |
| 20:15.28 | Kraps | not armorylite.... |
| 20:15.32 | olafski | elitist armory? |
| 20:15.38 | Kraps | ah |
| 20:15.44 | olafski | that's shadowed's, not mmoc =) |
| 20:15.52 | Shadowed | It uses the MMOC DB, but it's not MMOC |
| 20:16.03 | Nechckn | mmo champion, Bluspacecow |
| 20:16.12 | Alram | bibi didnt buy you out yet Shadowed? |
| 20:16.14 | Alram | :P |
| 20:16.26 | Bluspacecow | oh um |
| 20:16.38 | Bluspacecow | sigrie ? |
| 20:16.43 | Kraps | is my gear good enough to heal heroics? |
| 20:16.55 | Jamash | Yes |
| 20:16.57 | Bluspacecow | wtfismygearscore.com/ |
| 20:17.07 | ScytheBlade1 | I spy a chrome user |
| 20:17.09 | Bluspacecow | name & realm ? |
| 20:17.16 | Jamash | no |
| 20:17.20 | Jamash | do not look at gear score |
| 20:17.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Who uses cut instead of copy in the URL bar |
| 20:17.41 | Bluspacecow | copy |
| 20:18.05 | Kraps | loooool |
| 20:18.15 | ScytheBlade1 | copy would include http:// |
| 20:18.17 | Kraps | i didnt link my shiz :/ |
| 20:18.24 | Kraps | http://elitistarmory.com/US/Dalvengyr/Mornsen |
| 20:18.39 | Shadowed | you're fine |
| 20:18.50 | Shadowed | You'll have people whine, but heroics aren't hard |
| 20:18.51 | Jamash | see? |
| 20:19.33 | Shadowed | Oh yea I need to fix those grammar mistakes |
| 20:19.49 | Kraps | oh i'm also bad at healing dungeons but better in bgs |
| 20:19.49 | Bluspacecow | well |
| 20:19.59 | Bluspacecow | imho you've got to start somewhere! |
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| 20:20.30 | Bluspacecow | whats your badge supply like ? |
| 20:20.54 | Bluspacecow | maybe you could some of the older badges up ...the gear isnt as good but it should be better then what you have currently. |
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| 20:21.43 | foxlit | http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://www.wowinterface.com/ |
| 20:21.47 | foxlit | Run! Hide! Panic! |
| 20:21.49 | Kraps | i have 12 triumph |
| 20:22.52 | Shadowed | It's known, load issue is being fixed foxlit :p |
| 20:23.01 | Shadowed | looks like it's back actually |
| 20:23.03 | Bluspacecow | @foxlit |
| 20:23.05 | Bluspacecow | http://www.downornot.com/wowinterface |
| 20:23.23 | foxlit | I like my link better |
| 20:23.28 | foxlit | Less JUNK on the page |
| 20:24.12 | Kraps | why am i listening to classical music? |
| 20:24.12 | Bluspacecow | mines shorter |
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| 20:24.27 | Bluspacecow | yes they included that joke on the newest dr who episode |
| 20:25.09 | ScytheBlade1 | kd3: SC2 work okay under linux? |
| 20:25.26 | Bluspacecow | and now it says down |
| 20:29.07 | airtonix | http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=11123 |
| 20:29.09 | Kraps | classical period > romantic period |
| 20:34.57 | Bluspacecow | kk later guys \o |
| 20:40.00 | Cairenn | mikma: awwww |
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| 21:02.59 | Lunessa | Station! |
| 21:03.52 | Kraps | wipe on loken |
| 21:06.38 | Lunessa | For those curious, the movie "Kick Ass" does, and "Iron Man 2" is a fun show. |
| 21:06.49 | Cairenn | Station! |
| 21:07.07 | Lunessa | Station! |
| 21:07.07 | cbreak | I haven't even seen the first |
| 21:07.18 | cbreak | and most movies with a number in the name aren't that great... |
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| 21:08.04 | Lunessa | True, but ... this is a fun superhero flick. Turn your brain off, and enjoy the fights and Scarlett in tights. |
| 21:08.22 | ScytheBlade1 | see also: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/7/16/ |
| 21:08.28 | ScytheBlade1 | (see the title..) |
| 21:08.40 | cbreak | if you like thights, check out http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107977/ |
| 21:09.00 | Lunessa | SBO - yes. |
| 21:09.13 | zenzelezz | cbreak: is that meant to be "thighs" or "tights"? |
| 21:09.23 | cbreak | what ever you like more |
| 21:09.36 | Lunessa | cbreak: Mr. Elwiess isn't my type. He has all the wrong plumbing. |
| 21:10.32 | Seerah | But HE can speak with an English accent! |
| 21:11.08 | Kraps | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0955308/ |
| 21:11.10 | Lunessa | If he were a she, then we'd talk. |
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| 21:12.07 | Kraps | cant wait |
| 21:13.27 | Seerah | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bdprv6iwCSA :D |
| 21:14.03 | Kalroth | nice, wow is getting god rays: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jcHnDfph8I&hd=1 |
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| 21:20.13 | Antiarc | Kalroth: wow, projected off the character, that's pretty hot |
| 21:21.06 | Kalroth | Yeah, I think we're going to see some improved cinematics in the future (as well as some nice atmosphere during the day outside) |
| 21:22.33 | Fisker | you Antiarc |
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| 21:22.53 | Antiarc | Anyone know offhand the range of light bomb? |
| 21:22.54 | Fisker | your mom is a god ray btw Kalroth |
| 21:23.08 | Fisker | light bomb? |
| 21:23.18 | Kalroth | Fisker: you praise the days where she shines on you |
| 21:23.21 | Antiarc | the XT ability |
| 21:23.57 | Fisker | 10 yards according to wowhead |
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| 21:27.53 | olafski | iron man 2 does rock :) |
| 21:29.17 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 21:29.25 | Fisker | it was a shallow and pedantic movie |
| 21:30.26 | Kraps | Lunessa: did you see any kids at Kick Ass? |
| 21:32.03 | Lunessa | Kraps: There were me, and two other guys in the theater. They were both mid-20s 'bro' types. |
| 21:32.24 | Lunessa | This is why I like going to the first show of the day. No one gets up that early. |
| 21:32.24 | ScytheBlade1 | BRO. NOT COOL BRO. |
| 21:36.16 | Lunessa | BRO. The movie was AWESOME, BRO! Check it out, BRO! AWESOME! |
| 21:36.34 | Kraps | DUUUUUUUUDE |
| 21:36.55 | ScytheBlade1 | Somewhat amusingly, I get a job at an incredibly professional international company, and what do my coworkers do in their spare time? |
| 21:37.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Say "dude" and host three day LAN parties. |
| 21:37.30 | Lunessa | I thought you were going to say they stuffed mailboxes with gay porn. |
| 21:37.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Every piece of mail is archived in three different locations |
| 21:37.47 | ScytheBlade1 | So... not really, no. |
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| 21:41.10 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: did you build an electric engine? |
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| 21:45.45 | Kraps | STEP 1. complain about getting lowbies in LFD. STEP 2. promptly fall off the edge in oculus |
| 21:52.37 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 22:07.04 | Kraps | hey |
| 22:07.20 | Kraps | healing isnt so bad if you have the gear... |
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| 22:25.29 | Arrowmaster | i need to stop watching telesyncs, i swear they have no clue how to turn off the autofocus on their camcorders |
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| 23:25.10 | WobWork | Shirik: I have a 5D Mk1, but I don't know enough to suggest any advice |
| 23:26.05 | Thunder_Child | thats ok WobWork, mine > yours. |
| 23:26.49 | WobWork | it's true |
| 23:27.10 | WobWork | That's what your mother said |
| 23:27.15 | WobWork | whistles innocently |
| 23:27.21 | Thunder_Child | i didnt know she peeked |
| 23:27.36 | WobWork | You clearly don't know a lot about your mother =) |
| 23:28.05 | Thunder_Child | obviously not |
| 23:28.33 | WobWork | That's alright |
| 23:28.44 | WobWork | most other people do |
| 23:29.02 | Thunder_Child | more than me, thats for sure |
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| 23:36.06 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
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| 23:50.20 | Lunessa | You two should just get a measuring stick out already. |
| 23:51.30 | Lopeppeppy | Yum? |
| 23:51.53 | Lunessa | If you want photos Peppy, I'm sure they will oblige. |
| 23:52.25 | Lopeppeppy | Rosie disapproves of me receiving photographic evidence. |
| 23:53.05 | Lunessa | It was a mistake to teach her how to browse your HD. |
| 23:53.28 | Lopeppeppy | I know, the opposable thumbs have really been a negative thing. |
| 23:53.50 | Lunessa | But now she can use the can opener on her own! |
| 23:53.56 | Thunder_Child | dont need a measuring stick Lunessa, it's quite obvious by sight |
| 23:54.10 | Lopeppeppy | I wish, we're out of gushy food. I can't stand grocery stores right now. |
| 23:54.16 | Shirik | Thunder_Child did you get a 7D? |
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| 23:54.42 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: no, but i did just get an email from canon about savings on eos 5D's |
| 23:54.58 | Lunessa | Gushy food. Not just for weekends anymore. |
| 23:55.04 | Thunder_Child | still, $3,200 > what i can afford |
| 23:55.23 | Thunder_Child | oh....2.4K for body only |
| 23:57.18 | cbreak | who needs more than 3d anyway? |
| 23:57.19 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: they have some really shitty sales if you want to take a look http://shop.usa.canon.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/subCategory_10051_10051_-1_38751?WT.mc_id=EM1005EO01002&Lead.FirstName=Paul<YP=FRIENDS&CollateralRequest.CollateralRequestID=8824CR1000018957&Lead.Email=tc.thunderchild@gmail.com&cmpgn=eosn&LID=Lead.LeadID&Lead.LeadID=11c5677f3e900 |
| 23:57.23 | Thunder_Child | err... |
| 23:57.38 | Thunder_Child | well that was fail |
| 23:58.10 | Shirik | lol that's like all old equipment |
| 23:58.33 | WobWork | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:58.42 | WobWork | =( |
| 23:58.42 | Thunder_Child | wouldnt be the first time |
| 23:58.47 | Shirik | owned |
| 23:59.20 | WobWork | and how's that for endorsement? "Hey they have some terrible sales, I hear you like those" =P |
