| 00:00.21 | alestane | goes and mops up Lopeppeppy's brains to be doing something useful. |
| 00:00.54 | Thunder_Child | isnt that the same thing? |
| 00:01.15 | foxlit | No. |
| 00:01.20 | alestane | To my mind, at least, I would expect a /command to be "/release" or somtehing similar. |
| 00:01.24 | foxlit | /run is a slash command |
| 00:01.45 | Lunessa | is suddenly hungry. BRAAAAAAAAAAINS. |
| 00:01.46 | foxlit | Which does one thing: namely, run the rest of the line as Lua code :) |
| 00:01.55 | Cide | http://open.spotify.com/track/2mzuAU3JdBAYIdpFb1znOR |
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| 00:05.27 | alestane | I'm always highly suspicious of WoW's declaration that I "feel normal." |
| 00:05.34 | Shirik | lol |
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| 00:10.38 | alestane | Sometimes you tell the day by the bottle that you drink, Lunessa? |
| 00:11.25 | Lunessa | alestane: No, I'm not Bon Jovi. The bottle is always either Grey Goose vodka or Jameson Irish Whiskey. |
| 00:11.40 | alestane | Or brains, I was thinking. |
| 00:12.02 | Lunessa | Yeah, but once I've stooped to being a zombie, I don't care what day it is. |
| 00:13.36 | WobWork | So, you still could |
| 00:13.41 | WobWork | Today is GREY GOOSE DAY |
| 00:13.43 | Fisker | oh snaaaaaaap |
| 00:13.51 | Fisker | Razor is tearing Skidrow a new one |
| 00:13.58 | alestane | I'll take my lameduck jokes elsewhere for a little while. |
| 00:14.46 | Administrador__ | c'ya all! |
| 00:14.50 | Administrador__ | derp name |
| 00:15.39 | WobWork | is that like Comfortador? |
| 00:15.57 | alestane | Or a toreador? |
| 00:16.24 | WobWork | well, certainly one that oversees other toreadors |
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| 00:21.48 | alestane | Hmm, maybe lame-duck jokes can be used as decoys. Or at least bait. |
| 00:22.11 | Lopeppeppy | Dont make me shoot you |
| 00:22.15 | Shirik | .... I just spoke to someone that got banned from Mario Kart Wii |
| 00:22.24 | Shirik | I'm still in awe that that's even possible |
| 00:22.35 | Jamash | does mario kart wii have custom decals |
| 00:22.43 | Shirik | no |
| 00:22.46 | alestane | Oh look, I caught a Peppy. |
| 00:23.31 | Jamash | how much does it weigh? |
| 00:23.55 | Lopeppeppy | That is a personal question, and he has no idea. He hasn't seen me recently! |
| 00:25.12 | alestane | ããã¯ããâ¢ãâ¢ãã |
| 00:26.20 | Kraps | a wild Peppy appears! |
| 00:26.40 | alestane | subdues it with chocolate. |
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| 00:27.09 | Lopeppeppy | Wild giraffe! |
| 00:27.14 | Lopeppeppy | A gazebo rampant! |
| 00:28.02 | alestane | Vert, a gazebo rampant argent over twinned fireballs gules? |
| 00:28.37 | Kraps | Vorple Blades included |
| 00:29.21 | Lopeppeppy | That was a +1 arrow!!! |
| 00:29.46 | alestane | Too late. You have roused the gazebo,. It runs you down and eats you. |
| 00:30.03 | Lopeppeppy | Nom nom nom. A gazebo rampant. |
| 00:33.02 | alestane | "Did I mention my love for eggs?" |
| 00:33.03 | alestane | Bloody goblin. |
| 00:34.45 | alestane | Talbuks seriously sound like they have a leak. |
| 00:36.36 | Lunessa | resurfaces from the work drowning pool. |
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| 00:39.48 | Kraps | Lunessa: like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO_QntXc-c4 |
| 00:40.08 | Lunessa | YEAAAAAAAAAAHH! |
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| 00:45.12 | Mikk | umm so like.. LK's jumping disease |
| 00:45.16 | Mikk | can it jump to spirits? oO |
| 00:45.23 | Kraps | cool http://store.steampowered.com/ |
| 00:48.37 | Gintaro | Kraps .. ? |
| 00:48.47 | Kraps | the new layout |
| 00:49.00 | Gintaro | ah |
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| 01:00.25 | Gnarfoz | Mikk: Raging Spirits? yes, it can |
| 01:01.01 | Mikk | blooody bloody hell |
| 01:01.07 | Mikk | headdesks |
| 01:01.13 | Mikk | gj us making it harder than it needs to |
| 01:01.27 | Thunder_Child | blizz needs to fix the whole soulstone CD not reseting after spec change issue |
| 01:02.02 | Zyn | the LK necrotic plague can jump to any target, but we never bother to put it on the raging spirits :/ |
| 01:03.20 | Mikk | yeah we're just struggling a bit with p2.5 in 25man |
| 01:03.33 | Mikk | doable with heroism |
| 01:03.35 | Mikk | damn crutch |
| 01:03.45 | Mikk | but another 50k dps wouldnt hurt |
| 01:05.12 | Zyn | and let Mr Lich King gain additional damage buffs? do not want |
| 01:06.26 | Zyn | are you struggling with meeting the berserk timer? |
| 01:06.34 | Lunessa | Good news everyone! The slime pump is working again! |
| 01:07.41 | Zyn | cause on 25-man Normal LK, having one Raging Spirit up when the Remorseless Winter phase is over, is normal |
| 01:08.08 | Gnarfoz | p1.5 one, p2.5 two |
| 01:08.36 | Gnarfoz | also, how would you get the necrotic plague into p2.5, Mikk? ^^ |
| 01:08.59 | Lopeppeppy | Is that... positive, Lunessa? |
| 01:09.23 | Zyn | when the last Shambling Horror dies, whoever has the plague just runs out of the raid (out of range that it jumps on dispell) and gets it dispelled |
| 01:09.57 | Lunessa | Well, it's a boss quote in ICC during the Rotface encounter. It describes how I feel about the work I'm doing right now. |
| 01:10.08 | Lopeppeppy | Oh. I'm sorry sweetie. *hug* |
| 01:10.14 | Zyn | bursts the bubble |
| 01:10.16 | Zyn | it's "pipes" :< |
| 01:11.34 | Lunessa | pipes more slime. |
| 01:15.40 | Shirik | lmao |
| 01:15.41 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=358541690&rcid=368963128 |
| 01:15.49 | Shirik | ~wiki nigga types |
| 01:15.54 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 01:16.30 | Lunessa | Shirik: ... /facepalm |
| 01:16.43 | kd3 | that was quick... a minute to get tagged db-v? |
| 01:17.08 | Shirik | I consider that fairly slow for that one |
| 01:17.17 | Shirik | I got pinged 3 times when that was created |
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| 01:19.25 | Thunder_Child | there needs to be a public page of deleted things |
| 01:19.34 | Fisker | oh my |
| 01:19.42 | Fisker | a semi-smart account scam! |
| 01:19.50 | Fisker | Got an e-mail about the arena tournament |
| 01:22.47 | Thrae | Shirik: If you use the n-word I'll have to counter by calling you a nivveus. |
| 01:23.13 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: Actually there is |
| 01:23.29 | Shirik | http://deletionpedia.dbatley.com/w/index.php?title=Main_Page |
| 01:24.20 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: sweet |
| 01:24.30 | Shirik | it doesn't have everything, with good reason |
| 01:24.32 | Shirik | but it has some fun stuff |
| 01:24.44 | Thunder_Child | why not everything? |
| 01:24.56 | Thunder_Child | seems to rather break the whole OOS stuff |
| 01:25.00 | Thunder_Child | err..OS |
| 01:25.36 | Shirik | some things are deleted because they're copyright violations or attack pages |
| 01:25.42 | Shirik | and put simply, deletionpedia is not a mediawiki wiki |
| 01:25.51 | Shirik | it's just someone's pet project (that works fairly well) |
| 01:26.16 | Thunder_Child | i mean why doesnt wiki show it |
| 01:26.33 | Shirik | It shows it to admins :P |
| 01:28.19 | Jerub | is there a thing you can do that means that all your toons are totally deleted? |
| 01:28.38 | Shirik | as in never recoverable |
| 01:28.39 | Shirik | ? |
| 01:29.06 | Jerub | yeah |
| 01:29.19 | Shirik | I don't think so, and why would you do that? |
| 01:29.21 | Jerub | just wondering because a guildmate disappeared from the guild and from the armory |
| 01:29.42 | Thunder_Child | perma ban? |
| 01:29.52 | Jerub | nonono, it was like a week after a close friend passed away |
| 01:30.01 | Jerub | i'm guessing he just had a personal life realignment or something |
| 01:30.33 | Jerub | i'm just wondering how this sort of thing works |
| 01:32.09 | Shirik | transfer of character? |
| 01:32.13 | Shirik | to another realm |
| 01:32.23 | Jerub | no, he had like 4 80s and a heap of smaller ones. |
| 01:32.29 | Shirik | so? |
| 01:32.31 | Jerub | he also cancelled his vent server subscription. |
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| 01:42.52 | Lunessa | To my knowledge, Blizzard rarely deletes accounts, and then I don't think they do it for inactivity. A person could log in and delete their characters, but you can't delete a toon which is a GM without passing that leadership off first. |
| 01:43.11 | Jerub | oh he wasn'ta GM, just a guildie; |
| 01:43.27 | Lopeppeppy | I've heard of restores many months after sell off of goods and deletion, so it's possible. |
| 01:44.13 | Jerub | okay, so you can cancel your account but there's no big button that says, "delete all my toons forever" |
| 01:44.18 | Lopeppeppy | Most likely a transfer or rename, could be a ban stick. One never knows. |
| 01:44.35 | Jerub | wouldn't ever be a ban |
| 01:44.37 | Jerub | not this guy |
| 01:45.05 | Jerub | if you cancel your account do your toons disappear from the guild roster? |
| 01:45.17 | ZorbaTHut | jerub, the armory stops displaying characters after a while, I believe |
| 01:45.19 | Lunessa | That's what everyone who gets a ban says... |
| 01:45.28 | ZorbaTHut | I don't know about the guild roster though. |
| 01:45.48 | ZorbaTHut | I know that my guild still has people in it who haven't played for like a year |
| 01:46.06 | ZorbaTHut | (by "my guild" i mean "a guild I made with friends, most of whom no longer play") |
| 01:46.07 | Lunessa | As long as the character isn't deleted, they'll show on the roster. |
| 01:46.15 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/24570037075/get-rid-of-gnomes/ |
| 01:46.22 | Lunessa | eyes Lopeppeppy's toons. |
| 01:46.55 | Lopeppeppy | Don't make me cry. It's not fair. Come watch me try to get dressed and tell me if I can play games yet. *sigh* |
| 01:46.57 | Jerub | Lunessa: ... this guy never talked on trade, only used the most rudimentary addons, was polite to everyone, hated bots and hackers, etc. |
| 01:47.20 | Shadowed | You scared her off! |
| 01:47.22 | Lunessa | Nooo.... |
| 01:47.24 | Jerub | Lunessa: okay, that's a worry. |
| 01:47.25 | ZorbaTHut | jerub, I'm guessing he deleted his characters, personally |
| 01:47.25 | Shadowed | Way to go |
| 01:47.30 | ajmitch | Jerub: maybe he just got sick of it all & wanted a clean break |
| 01:47.31 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: it's possible. |
| 01:47.56 | Jerub | okay, thanks guys :) |
| 01:51.08 | kd3 | whee, today's sc2 build breaks wine |
| 01:51.10 | kd3 | sighs |
| 01:52.46 | Fisker | owned kd3 |
| 01:53.21 | Fisker | (No beta for us though due to second class citizens etc) |
| 01:54.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Hey Fisker |
| 01:54.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Show me that rage face |
| 01:54.53 | Fisker | naw ScytheBlade1 |
| 01:55.03 | Fisker | anyway Jerub its technically possible to get your account deleted in EU |
| 01:55.05 | Fisker | dunno about US |
| 01:57.55 | Fisker | i need sleep ScytheBlade1 |
| 01:58.48 | ScytheBlade1 | so sleep |
| 01:58.58 | Fisker | i can't :( |
| 01:59.05 | Shadowed | I can ban you if you want, will that help! |
| 01:59.45 | Fisker | i wish |
| 02:00.15 | ScytheBlade1 | I have some pretty epic sleeping medications |
| 02:00.24 | ScytheBlade1 | You know they're epic because they aren't intended to make you sleep |
| 02:00.29 | ScytheBlade1 | But rather, to make a horse sleep |
| 02:01.38 | Fisker | i could of course just destroy you |
| 02:01.38 | Lunessa | This makes me laugh: http://ihasahotdog.com/upcoming/?pid=9531 |
| 02:02.05 | kd3 | ooh... a rockstar pack |
| 02:02.24 | Fisker | old |
| 02:08.56 | Fisker | why so mean kd3 ? |
| 02:09.10 | kd3 | because I haven't the bandwidth to be nice |
| 02:09.23 | Fisker | true |
| 02:09.55 | Fisker | don't you hate it when you're doing something and you forget what it is :( |
| 02:10.16 | Fisker | and you're frantically typing in every url in your browser because you're sure something there had something to do with it :( |
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| 02:11.15 | sylvanaar | it'd be nice to instead forget that i was doing something but remember what it was that i forgot i was doing |
| 02:11.30 | Gnarfoz | . |
| 02:11.37 | Gnarfoz | ~ping |
| 02:11.38 | purl | ~pong |
| 02:11.57 | Gnarfoz | bleh, thanks, wow server |
| 02:13.14 | Shirik | ha |
| 02:13.21 | Shirik | my PGP key has "wtf" in it twice |
| 02:14.08 | Gnarfoz | why on earth would you notice that? :D |
| 02:14.15 | Shirik | I don't know >< |
| 02:14.16 | Thunder_Child | this is Shirik |
| 02:14.27 | Thunder_Child | there is no surprise here |
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| 02:28.13 | alestane | Q. When will we get new info and updates on Cataclysm? |
| 02:28.13 | alestane | A. Soon, but not too soon. Ragnaros would be pissed. |
| 02:29.00 | alestane | "Like everything though, there is the risk that we may decide this idea sucks once we see it in action. " |
| 02:29.48 | Jerub | i liked the raid info they released. |
| 02:30.05 | Jerub | i also loved the fact that it was 3 posts before the QQ moar started |
| 02:37.44 | Arrowmaster | comcast is still 250gb a month cap right? |
| 02:38.14 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
| 02:38.23 | Arrowmaster | so happy i dont have comcast |
| 02:38.29 | ScytheBlade1 | despite offering docsis 3.0 in some areas |
| 02:38.30 | Kraps | lol caps |
| 02:38.55 | Kraps | its not 1992 people |
| 02:38.57 | Arrowmaster | i was 5gb under that last month, first time ive been under it since 2009-08 |
| 02:39.43 | Arrowmaster | ive already dont 50gb today alone |
| 02:40.02 | Arrowmaster | done |
| 02:41.08 | Shirik | wow, last.fm just found an awesome song Pandora never found for me |
| 02:41.20 | Shirik | I must say I'm liking last.fm |
| 02:41.46 | Arrowmaster | they have more than just preset playlists now? |
| 02:41.54 | Shirik | yes |
| 02:42.00 | Arrowmaster | on the xbox version? |
| 02:42.07 | Shirik | I don't know |
| 02:42.09 | Shirik | I'm using my computer |
| 02:43.07 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTOwC1xyDBA |
| 02:43.09 | Shirik | That is an awesome song |
| 02:47.54 | Lunessa | "We're designing and balancing raids so that the difficulty between 10- and 25-player versions of each difficulty will be as close as possible to each other as we can achieve. That closeness in difficulty also means that we'll have bosses dropping the same items in 10- and 25-player raids of each difficulty. They'll have the same name and same stats; they are in fact the exact same items. Choosing Heroic mode will drop a scaled-up version of those item |
| 02:47.54 | Lunessa | hope is that players will be able to associate bosses with their loot tables and even associate specific artwork with specific item names to a far greater extent than today. " Yes please |
| 02:49.56 | Arrowmaster | why would people do 25man then? |
| 02:50.16 | tem | gear up faster |
| 02:50.29 | Lunessa | More loot, not more powerful loot. |
| 02:50.36 | tem | same gear up |
| 02:50.40 | tem | but in a shorter duration |
| 02:50.41 | Arrowmaster | right |
| 02:50.45 | tem | which means faster progression |
| 02:50.50 | Arrowmaster | stupid question since you can do both |
| 02:50.57 | tem | you can't do both |
| 02:51.04 | Lunessa | Not going forward. |
| 02:51.15 | Lunessa | Cataclysm will have 10 and 25 on the same lockout. |
| 02:51.33 | Arrowmaster | then why would anybody do 25 man if they can clear 10 man? |
| 02:51.50 | Lunessa | Which for /me/ is great, because I don't want to have to go to 2 raids of every instance to stay competitive. |
| 02:51.55 | tem | gear up faster |
| 02:52.11 | tem | 25 player raids will drop more loot per raider than 10 player raids |
| 02:52.17 | tem | (items AND badges) |
| 02:52.21 | Lunessa | Some people like large groups. Some people want "more epic" fights. |
| 02:52.22 | Arrowmaster | are the 25man going to drop 2.5x or more loot than 10 man? |
| 02:52.33 | tem | it might be 2.25 |
| 02:52.35 | tem | 2.5* |
| 02:52.49 | tem | but the way they said it today was More loot /per raider/ |
| 02:53.01 | tem | so that says to me it will drop more than 2.5x |
| 02:53.10 | tem | it will also be more badges |
| 02:53.14 | Arrowmaster | 'more loot per raider' probably means 'more badges' |
| 02:53.20 | Lunessa | So gearing up should be faster for everyone in a 25. |
| 02:53.42 | tem | Here's how I think it'll end up: 1 item per boss in 10m |
| 02:53.45 | tem | 3 per boss in 25 |
| 02:53.46 | Thunder_Child | i dont think it will be per raider, eg. in a 10 you have 100 items drop and in 25 you have 250 drop |
| 02:54.35 | tem | and maybe 2 badges per boss in 10 and 3 per boss in 25 |
| 02:54.50 | Arrowmaster | imho it would have to be more than exactly 2.5x more, otherwise 10 is still better because of less competition |
| 02:55.47 | tem | The biggest problem imo to having 10 and 25 drop the same items is loot table size |
| 02:56.06 | Lunessa | I remember at the panel about dungeons and raids blizzcon'09 they said something about really hating bosses who had giant loot tables (VoA bosses) and that it was a problem. So I expect tighter loot tables so it won't be as long before you see the drops you're looking for. |
| 02:56.10 | tem | 25 player currently have larger loot tables than 10 player bosses |
| 02:56.54 | Thunder_Child | from what i understand they will be the same size |
| 02:57.39 | tem | they have to be the same size for them to drop the same items |
| 02:57.58 | tem | it'll just be way easier to get the item you need to drop in 25player |
| 02:58.14 | tem | it will probably even out for most people |
| 02:58.27 | tem | but the tanks, however, will be in shittier shape in 10m |
| 02:58.36 | tem | since you have the same amount of competition in both modes |
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| 02:59.34 | tem | also there's the thing where 10m is herently harder |
| 02:59.47 | tem | since one death makes a larger impact |
| 02:59.51 | Lunessa | Because you have less firepower. |
| 03:00.03 | Lunessa | less safety margin. |
| 03:00.08 | tem | yep |
| 03:00.44 | Lunessa | As it is now, 25 is usually easier once you clear the social hurdle of getting 25 consistent players. And you get better loot. |
| 03:00.53 | Lunessa | To me, that stinks. |
| 03:00.59 | tem | yep |
| 03:05.16 | Lunessa | has turned into a clock-watcher. 25 more minutes. I'm starving and I want out. |
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| 03:17.06 | Kraps | HO SHIT http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/24401796793/cataclysm-badge-and-pvp-point-changes/ |
| 03:17.51 | Kraps | HO SHIT |
| 03:19.09 | WobWork | hm |
| 03:19.21 | WobWork | that'll force people to spend points before each shift |
| 03:26.00 | Kraps | wish it was something more grand than "points" |
| 03:27.07 | Jerub | WobWork: why would it force anything? |
| 03:29.41 | Lunessa | No stockpiling in order to just have the latest gear the day it ships. |
| 03:30.29 | Lunessa | And on that note, I'm out of here. See you all tomorrow. |
| 03:49.06 | Shirik | Kraps |
| 03:49.09 | Shirik | 63-1-3 >< |
| 03:49.27 | Shirik | I think the other two that are up right now are better candidates than me and I'm doing better than them ._. |
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| 03:49.58 | Kraps | lol dont be so humble :p |
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| 03:50.23 | Shirik | I'm serious |
| 03:50.56 | Kraps | what do you want me to say? |
| 03:51.10 | Shirik | I don't know |
| 03:51.46 | Kraps | I don't know |
| 03:53.31 | Shirik | >< |
| 03:59.27 | Shirik | Arrowmaster |
| 03:59.38 | Shirik | you watch star trek right? |
| 03:59.45 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 04:00.05 | Shirik | I just found a Windows desktop replacement that replaces your desktop with LCARS |
| 04:00.14 | Shirik | it even has voice command functionality |
| 04:00.39 | Shirik | http://www.lcarsx32.com/lcars/index.php |
| 04:00.42 | Shirik | haven't installed yet |
| 04:00.48 | Shirik | no guarantees on functionality |
| 04:00.57 | Arrowmaster | i dont use windows |
| 04:01.14 | Shirik | WELL THEN YOU FAIL |
| 04:04.17 | Thunder_Child | i'm checking it out |
| 04:06.25 | Jerub | Shirik: does it work with windows 7? |
| 04:06.31 | Shirik | testing now |
| 04:08.42 | Thunder_Child | bah, i think it's 32 only |
| 04:08.54 | Shirik | omfg |
| 04:08.55 | Thunder_Child | or maybe not |
| 04:08.56 | Shirik | this is badass |
| 04:09.00 | Shirik | holy shit |
| 04:10.09 | Shirik | it even has an awesome display for my battery |
| 04:10.09 | fiercerest | can you post some screenshots |
| 04:10.11 | Shirik | on my laptop |
| 04:13.00 | Shirik | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/e3beee94fd66d6437bd9db18f152f2fd.png |
| 04:13.53 | Thunder_Child | is there no desktop then? |
| 04:13.55 | fiercerest | is there self destruct? otherwise i'm not interested |
| 04:14.00 | Thunder_Child | and what about dual screens? |
| 04:14.01 | Shirik | well the desktop is behind the IRC window |
| 04:14.25 | Shirik | it looks as you would expect |
| 04:14.30 | Thunder_Child | auto destruct is in the top elft |
| 04:14.32 | Thunder_Child | left |
| 04:14.38 | Shirik | though it would probably look better if I had an all balck background |
| 04:14.43 | fiercerest | oh yes |
| 04:17.42 | Shirik | wait wait |
| 04:17.43 | Shirik | I got more |
| 04:17.48 | Shirik | omg this is so much better than I thought |
| 04:18.05 | fiercerest | ? |
| 04:18.22 | Shirik | engineering: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/2cce287afa91169cb9e130005ba08a40.png |
| 04:18.51 | Shirik | "my computer" http://images.gammatester.com/pics/3460176fdc04b55613d203bb24d6d788.png |
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| 04:19.23 | AbsolutRayne | Evening strangers :) |
| 04:19.25 | Shirik | the file extensions on that looks a bit whack because of the folder I chose |
| 04:19.34 | Shirik | it would probably look a lot better if they were all 3 letter extensions |
| 04:20.15 | Shirik | my start menu: http://images.gammatester.com/pics/0f7f66ee238d5cde4d4ccbe96733793f.png |
| 04:21.07 | Shirik | omg it even has a red alert |
| 04:21.31 | fiercerest | yea, but now you need a touchscreen |
| 04:22.00 | AbsolutRayne | Are there any working addon atm that alter the Quest Tracker? |
| 04:22.36 | AbsolutRayne | Mostly, skin it / change the font / make it movable? |
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| 04:31.17 | Kraps | Shirik: |
| 04:31.25 | Kraps | NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD |
| 04:31.30 | Shirik | lol |
| 04:31.30 | Shirik | I know |
| 04:31.42 | Shirik | But you cannot deny its badassery |
| 04:32.38 | Kraps | i wouldnt know |
| 04:33.12 | Shirik | BADASSERY |
| 04:33.14 | Thunder_Child | i can, it doesnt seem very intuitive |
| 04:34.08 | Shirik | it's not bad |
| 04:34.27 | Shirik | I mean come on |
| 04:34.37 | Shirik | with as much practice as those starfleet guys I could be a whiz at LCARS too |
| 04:34.41 | Shirik | I have 5 minutes of practice |
| 04:34.43 | Kraps | do i have the best latency ever? i'm always the first out the AB gate, even with all the people running against the gate |
| 04:35.12 | Shirik | uh, I don't think so |
| 04:35.26 | Shirik | a round trip to freenode for me takes 0.265s |
| 04:35.36 | Shirik | a round trip to you takes about 1s |
| 04:35.48 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: everyone always sees themsevs as first out the gate |
| 04:35.56 | Thunder_Child | themselfs* |
| 04:35.57 | Thunder_Child | w/e |
| 04:36.16 | Kraps | how can that be? |
| 04:37.02 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: LCARS is also meant for touch, and provides a different service that we usually use a comp for |
| 04:37.08 | Shirik | yes :P |
| 04:37.14 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: lag sync or some such |
| 04:50.32 | Kraps | 1k HKS |
| 04:53.00 | AbsolutRayne | Anyone know with Carbonite if you can turn off the little buttons on the Quest Tracking frame? IE, Quest Givers, Show Party Quests, etc. |
| 04:57.35 | Cairenn | WobWork: awwwww http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=104612926247654 |
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| 04:59.53 | WobWork | Cairenn: actually an old video, but AWWWW =( Poor dog =\ |
| 05:00.03 | Cairenn | he lived though |
| 05:02.16 | WobWork | yay! |
| 05:03.09 | Kraps | trader = traitor |
| 05:08.07 | Kraps | woo i got grid to show who has weakened soul! |
| 05:08.40 | Shirik | does it show a picture of me? |
| 05:09.05 | Kraps | yeah, no |
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| 05:12.15 | Shirik | I am a weakened soul :( |
| 05:16.10 | Kraps | yeah we get it :p |
| 05:16.38 | Shirik | :P |
| 05:17.07 | Shirik | oh btw Kraps |
| 05:17.12 | Shirik | the best way to find out if you're really the first out the gate |
| 05:17.18 | Shirik | go for the first flag |
| 05:17.37 | Shirik | almost everyone will run an identical path so it's really just "who REALLY got out first" |
| 05:17.51 | Kraps | if you level up just through bgs how do you get gold for abilities? O0 |
| 05:17.51 | Shirik | well, that and "who is better at clicking" |
| 05:20.54 | Kraps | night |
| 05:25.26 | Iriel | The problem with using 'out of the gate' as your metric is you see their position AFTER it's been from them to server to you |
| 05:25.42 | Iriel | so if your latency is t3h suck, you see your current position and theirs 1s ago |
| 05:26.11 | Shirik | but with regards to the flag cap, it's the server that gets to decide who wins |
| 05:26.23 | Iriel | Yes, thus your suggestion is a good test |
| 05:26.41 | Iriel | or, a better test |
| 05:27.10 | Iriel | An impartial observer on a low ping connection would probably be easier |
| 05:27.20 | Shirik | ah good one |
| 05:28.12 | Shirik | though honestly I'm wondering if games will ever become distributed |
| 05:28.21 | Shirik | where instead of the server sending position information, the clients talk to each other |
| 05:28.35 | Shirik | seems like it would save a lot of bandwidth |
| 05:28.46 | Shirik | well, it would save server bandwidth |
| 05:29.07 | Iriel | There'd need to be some consistency sacrifice |
| 05:29.11 | Shirik | we already do this with airplanes a bit |
| 05:29.25 | batrick | thats hard now with nats and evil p2p hating isps |
| 05:30.08 | Shirik | I noticed that games are getting better about using UPNP though |
| 05:30.15 | Iriel | I'm not sure that saves all that much bandwidth |
| 05:30.19 | batrick | maybe when ipv6 takes off well see better designs |
| 05:30.38 | Iriel | It depends how efficiently the clients can build an adjacency graph |
| 05:30.48 | Shirik | Iriel: Instead of the server having to announe the position of every player to every other player, you have the clients duplicating that information |
| 05:30.53 | Iriel | and then there are trust issues. |
| 05:30.58 | Shirik | THAT is the key question |
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| 06:14.07 | Trela | Any one know where I might find XT-002 Deconstructor in the MPQ files? |
| 06:17.44 | zenzio | find what part of it... model? Sound? |
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| 06:25.15 | Trela | Model. |
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| 06:36.49 | Trela | It is named Clockwork Giant. FFFF. |
| 06:39.30 | Thunder_Child | ...the damn 'vote to kick' option should NOT be right next to the 'inspect' option |
| 06:41.29 | olafski | well at least you get that prompt now which asks for a reason |
| 06:41.35 | olafski | though I've never actually seen people enter one |
| 06:42.16 | Thunder_Child | you still dont get iy |
| 06:42.19 | Thunder_Child | it* |
| 06:42.25 | Thunder_Child | not as of 4-5 days ago |
| 06:42.37 | olafski | ah so even if you enter it the others don't see it? |
| 06:42.43 | olafski | so that's why :P |
| 06:42.47 | Thunder_Child | no, i mean you dont get the option |
| 06:42.50 | olafski | oh |
| 06:42.53 | olafski | I did get it |
| 06:43.18 | olafski | but as I was typing it someone else already kicked the person I was about to |
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| 06:58.00 | Dagmar | Darn you Steam |
| 06:58.39 | zenzio | how so? |
| 06:59.13 | Dagmar | I was about to go down to the store and get Episodes from Liberty City for the PS3 since I have GTA IV on there... |
| 06:59.31 | Dagmar | Steam just put in a bundle deal that gets you pretty much, um, PILES of GTA plus that for $43 |
| 07:00.05 | Dagmar | 1, 2, 3, 4, San Andreas, Vice City and a buncha others |
| 07:03.21 | zenzio | maybe I should get that one... I was foolish enough to get GTA4 for the Xbox, and I couldn't stand the controls |
| 07:04.27 | Arrowmaster | steam needs to release their damn secret linux client so ill stop reconsidering going back to windows, i dont care if i still have to use wine for the games, the steam client just runs like crap in wine |
| 07:07.53 | zenzio | "William Shatner played the same character for 28 years (...)" - I had no idea he was Kirk for that long o_O |
| 07:08.17 | Thunder_Child | no, he just played the same char...in every thing he did |
| 07:08.25 | zenzio | oh, lol |
| 07:08.31 | Thunder_Child | cop, kirk, same diff |
| 07:08.32 | Trela | Okay, finding the XT-002 Deconstructor model was worth it. http://www.wowstead.com/ |
| 07:09.18 | zenzio | Trela: :) |
| 07:09.33 | zenzio | for some reason I kept thinking of the Venture Company shredders in Stonetalon when you said XT-002 o_O |
| 07:11.16 | Thunder_Child | ~l2 zenzio |
| 07:11.28 | Thunder_Child | hmmm...what the hell was that again |
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| 07:17.06 | zenzio | "It's well known among sci-fi fans that the production of Alien 3 was a ridiculous carnival of stupidity. David Fincher had been brought in at the last minute after every single other director in Hollywood had been hired and eventually fired from the project." |
| 07:17.11 | zenzio | this would explain why Alien 3 sucked |
| 07:17.55 | Thunder_Child | i doubt that one reason was why |
| 07:18.42 | zenzio | not alone, no... but it sure must have helped |
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| 07:40.03 | bleeter | Fisker: |
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| 08:25.21 | batrick | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eoa-KqIwW8s |
| 08:31.51 | msoul | Arrowmaster: you there? |
| 08:32.04 | Arrowmaster | maybe |
| 08:32.40 | msoul | I'm not sure whether it's you or someone else here who said he did quit WoW |
| 08:32.43 | msoul | Was it you? |
| 08:32.51 | Arrowmaster | i did |
| 08:33.17 | msoul | Did froze my account |
| 08:33.33 | msoul | Doesn't amuse me like it used to be |
| 08:33.58 | msoul | I still think it's the best game out there when it comes to MMO |
| 08:34.26 | msoul | Except most players makes you want to /wrist when you play with them |
| 08:34.36 | msoul | sigh |
| 08:35.30 | msoul | what about you |
| 08:35.33 | msoul | why did you quit |
| 08:35.37 | msoul | "curiousity" |
| 08:35.53 | Arrowmaster | because i wasnt raiding anymore |
| 08:36.15 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: There's plenty to do besides. |
| 08:36.17 | DWSR | Like PvP |
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| 08:37.23 | zenzio | I'm guessing he didn't appreciate PvP |
| 08:37.26 | zenzio | I know I don't |
| 08:37.39 | Arrowmaster | i loath pvp |
| 08:37.42 | DWSR | Why? |
| 08:37.49 | Arrowmaster | because it sucks |
| 08:37.50 | DWSR | Roll an FotM class or play an OP comp |
| 08:37.55 | DWSR | Or just roll around in BGs. |
| 08:38.00 | zenzio | for me it's just that I don't like PvP in any MMO |
| 08:38.11 | DWSR | I just ground out all of my Furious gear in a week and I roll face in BG |
| 08:38.33 | DWSR | there's plenty of OCD/collectionist things to do as well |
| 08:38.40 | msoul | Pvp is nice but you have to keep up every now and then for upgrades |
| 08:39.04 | msoul | BGs suck these days :( |
| 08:39.14 | msoul | ppl with 0 resiliance wonder why they got 2 hitted |
| 08:39.15 | DWSR | Just farm kills. |
| 08:39.45 | DWSR | Also, Blizzard needs to stop with the "there shouldn't be 2 sets of mechanics" bs. |
| 08:39.49 | DWSR | There absolutely should be. |
| 08:39.58 | DWSR | PvE is dealing with health pools in the tens of millions. |
| 08:40.17 | DWSR | PvP is dealing with health pools in the tens of thousands. There's a few orders of magnitude difference. |
| 08:41.17 | msoul | i love raiding |
| 08:41.43 | msoul | But nowadays you cannot get into pugs without 5500++ GS ach and come for inspection |
| 08:42.02 | msoul | and guilds "decent" guilds doesn't recruit unless you're armored to the teeth |
| 08:42.28 | msoul | my current guild on sindragosa fight "don't flask no fishfeast" just enjoy the wipefest |
| 08:42.38 | msoul | one of the reasons why i froze my account honestly |
| 08:42.46 | msoul | if you're so cheap why raid at all? |
| 08:43.08 | msoul | farm dailies to buy flasks fishfeast if you can't even cook the latter |
| 08:43.38 | msoul | My gear if fine for icc10 and 25 normal |
| 08:43.48 | msoul | and i still get some comments about my GS |
| 08:44.03 | msoul | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kazzak&cn=Rpt |
| 08:45.08 | DWSR | Neck piece drops from ToC10 |
| 08:45.11 | DWSR | that you can upgrade. |
| 08:45.14 | msoul | personally i think the major problem is ppl wants you to "carry" them or their friends |
| 08:45.29 | msoul | DWSR: haven't seen it drop |
| 08:45.36 | msoul | doing togc10 today and hoping |
| 08:46.10 | msoul | it's not that bad btw |
| 08:46.25 | msoul | remember ppl equipping the trinket from AN to od ulduar backthen? |
| 08:47.18 | DWSR | No. |
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| 08:48.36 | DWSR | Regardless, that's also only a 2 tier difference. |
| 08:48.58 | DWSR | And since it looks like you're running at least ICC10, you can also pick up Marrogar's Scratching Choker. |
| 08:49.11 | DWSR | tbh, though, your gear is fine. |
| 08:50.08 | msoul | Thanks |
| 08:50.09 | zenzio | your problem is that you're expecting PUGers to have common sense about gear and skill |
| 08:50.31 | msoul | zenzio: I've tried getting into decent guilds |
| 08:50.34 | DWSR | http://wow-heroes.com/index.php?zone=us&server=Emerald%20Dream&name=Arelin |
| 08:50.45 | msoul | I don't expect ppl to help me gear up |
| 08:51.07 | msoul | but haven't seen things that i ned drop and when it does a friend of that "leader" gets it |
| 08:51.13 | msoul | i don't complain over a gear |
| 08:51.19 | DWSR | You should. |
| 08:51.26 | DWSR | If it's being unfairly looted, you should definitely raise hell. |
| 08:51.54 | msoul | I did it once back in ulduar when a hunter got Aegis sword and was a major upgrade for me |
| 08:52.33 | msoul | and that guild disbanded later |
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| 08:52.44 | msoul | cause the had loot council and passed loot to friends first |
| 08:52.52 | Cidwel | hiya |
| 08:52.54 | msoul | I never got 1 trophy to this day |
| 08:53.28 | msoul | My gear is either from voa/crafted heroics and rarely and i mean rarely i win a roll |
| 08:53.52 | msoul | finding a decent guild is a pain |
| 08:54.14 | msoul | so decided to freeze my account... have until 5th of may or some such |
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| 08:58.42 | msoul | zenzio: you play on us realm right? |
| 08:59.16 | msoul | Actually your name sounds swedish :) |
| 08:59.37 | msoul | scandinavian anyway |
| 09:00.18 | Maldivia | well, being Scandinavian doens't mean you can't play on US realms :P |
| 09:00.30 | msoul | hehe |
| 09:00.55 | msoul | bbiaw |
| 09:01.14 | zenzio | msoul: I play on an EU realm |
| 09:01.30 | zenzio | and I'm Norwegian, so you were close |
| 09:02.27 | Maldivia | considering how many Scandinavians there are in this channel, it's always a good guess :) |
| 09:02.43 | haste | also norwegian |
| 09:02.54 | zenzio | I'm going to guess he /whoised me though... my nick hardly sounds Scandinavian |
| 09:03.35 | WobWork | maybe not to a Scandanavian! |
| 09:03.44 | zenzio | heh, true |
| 09:05.08 | Kalroth | fucking norwegians |
| 09:05.33 | krka | verb or adjective? |
| 09:06.07 | WobWork | I didn't know norwegians was a verb =\ |
| 09:07.10 | zenzio | clearly you have never been Norwegianed |
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| 09:09.16 | Kalroth | krka: Either works for me. |
| 09:10.14 | Maldivia | hmm, either being norwegianed is something really boring or really kinky, don't really know what, or what I would prefer it was |
| 09:28.12 | Torhal | Maldivia: Brings new meaning to the Beatles song "Norwegian Wood". |
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| 09:38.02 | Maldivia | Torhal: not really, it's always been like that :) |
| 09:38.11 | Torhal | Heh |
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| 09:46.20 | Alleidun | if a table is filled with arrays is it possible to do table.concat on it ? |
| 09:46.43 | Alleidun | or do i have to create a temp table with the keys I need to concat ? |
| 09:48.55 | haste | table.concat is only for strings |
| 09:54.54 | Alleidun | Allrighty, thx :) |
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| 10:31.24 | Gintaro | daily wtf ftw |
| 10:31.47 | Gintaro | "each Activity within a Period should have a unique, non-sequential, two-digit identifier" <-- wtf requirements! |
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| 10:38.49 | Gintaro | WTB: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqwMzQiXlK0 |
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| 10:40.33 | Gintaro | lol, the music under that advertisement is so wrong |
| 10:45.16 | batrick | morning |
| 10:48.56 | Arrowmaster | i call bullshit |
| 10:49.00 | Cairenn | morning batrick |
| 10:49.02 | Cairenn | night all |
| 10:49.17 | Arrowmaster | i want to see them try to launch one of those club-k's from a semi like they show in that video |
| 10:49.24 | Fisker | no! |
| 10:52.38 | Cidwel | if I make a secureframe, their parent frames will be automatically secured, but the childs of that parent frames would be too? |
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| 11:10.41 | mikma | industrial: 14:17 <industrial> mikma: you sir, are a dickface. Signed, Tom Wieland. |
| 11:10.57 | mikma | industrial: go and fu*k yourself! Signed, Mikko Majuri |
| 11:12.56 | haste | 23 hours later! |
| 11:13.26 | batrick | w00t 2 days until next ubuntu! |
| 11:25.18 | Adys | 1 day actually |
| 11:25.35 | Adys | oh |
| 11:25.35 | Adys | nm |
| 11:26.16 | mikma | haste: tells you how much i have time to irc nowadays |
| 11:36.06 | Fisker | haste |
| 11:36.09 | Fisker | can i blow you up? |
| 11:36.15 | haste | no |
| 11:36.20 | Fisker | sure? |
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| 11:38.21 | mikma | troll him, that's even worse |
| 11:39.59 | Fisker | great idea |
| 11:40.38 | Kalroth | what if haste is already trolling you |
| 11:43.40 | Fisker | what if i'm already trolling you? |
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| 11:51.30 | Adys | http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2010-04-27-n66.html |
| 11:51.31 | Adys | hahah |
| 11:51.49 | Adys | http://wonder-tonic.com/geocitiesizer/content.php?theme=1&music=2&url=mmo-champion.com |
| 11:51.50 | Adys | wow. |
| 11:52.04 | zenzio | Adys: epic! |
| 11:52.15 | Adys | http://wonder-tonic.com/geocitiesizer/content.php?theme=2&music=12&url=google.com |
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| 11:53.05 | Adys | i crashed it \o/ |
| 11:54.48 | zenzio | okay, Slashdot looks funky in that |
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| 12:05.57 | Adys | http://startupsigns.com/ |
| 12:07.11 | Cidwel | cya all |
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| 12:12.08 | batrick | wow that really hurts my eyes |
| 12:12.11 | batrick | damn Adys |
| 12:12.59 | Adys | mmoc one? yeah |
| 12:13.15 | batrick | sensory overload |
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| 12:39.51 | robotusch | ~wowalert |
| 12:39.52 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
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| 12:48.08 | Lonny|afk | I tried to move the BonusActionBarFrame and it taints, so instead I'm trying to replicate it, this code seems to work partially http://lonny.pastey.net/135761 but it's not updating correctly, how can I swap stances appropriately ? |
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| 12:58.26 | alestane | huggles Peppy. Yay for project! |
| 12:59.06 | airtonix | Lonny, if i remember correctly you don't create new bars. you re-assign the actions they perform. |
| 12:59.12 | airtonix | you* |
| 12:59.42 | Lonny | Hmm |
| 12:59.56 | airtonix | i think its covered under secureFrames concepts |
| 13:00.05 | Lonny | Yeah I'll read it up then |
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| 13:09.35 | alestane | Okay, WIN: http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/photo.php?pid=1158587&id=1124952298 |
| 13:12.37 | zenzio | this brings back so many memories: http://www.textfiles.com/underconstruction/ (heavy on images) |
| 13:18.32 | alestane | I find the notion that a page is ever done to be a little bit strange. |
| 13:18.42 | zenzio | it does now |
| 13:18.49 | zenzio | but in the days of web 0.2, it didn't! |
| 13:19.29 | alestane | Although admittedly there is a difference between "not yet final" (since they never are) and "not yet complete" (We'll have something soon, we promise! Bookmark this URL anyway, pleeeeease?). |
| 13:19.57 | Cide | http://www.textfiles.com/underconstruction/mail/ |
| 13:20.31 | alestane | We R still figring owt teh HTML breakage. |
| 13:20.34 | Fisker | Cide |
| 13:20.41 | Fisker | why does Blizzard have to fuck me up? |
| 13:20.48 | Cide | you did that yourself |
| 13:20.51 | Fisker | no |
| 13:21.01 | Cide | yes |
| 13:21.02 | Fisker | That's what they get for making arbitrary region restrictions |
| 13:21.03 | Fisker | fuckers |
| 13:21.24 | Cide | they're not arbitrary if they're designed to keep you out |
| 13:22.46 | Kalroth | Fisker: it is not! |
| 13:23.30 | Adys | http://googlepolicyeurope.blogspot.com/2010/04/data-collected-by-google-cars.html |
| 13:25.57 | Kalroth | fucking magnets, how do they work |
| 13:27.30 | Fisker | and i don't want to hear no scientist lying and pissing me off |
| 13:28.52 | Fisker | ooh i wonder if they found my super adventure club Adys |
| 13:29.05 | Fisker | how do i found out!? |
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| 14:14.58 | Gintaro | Why! Why haven't they fixed PoS yet? |
| 14:15.41 | Gintaro | It's been months! |
| 14:16.42 | Jamash | what's wrong with it? |
| 14:17.54 | batrick | They do it to feed your addiction. You become so angry and frustrated you have no choice but to keep playing. |
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| 14:18.38 | Gintaro | Jamash, http://www.wowwiki.com/Scourgelord_Tyrannus#Bugs |
| 14:23.14 | Gintaro | Nub DKs |
| 14:23.31 | Gintaro | fighting in blues with tanking aura shiz on |
| 14:23.40 | Gintaro | You weren't the tank! |
| 14:23.55 | Jamash | IM FROST SO I FIGHT IN FROST PRESENTS |
| 14:24.17 | Gintaro | He was unholy specced |
| 14:24.22 | Gintaro | Yet somehow managed to overaggro me |
| 14:24.27 | Gintaro | donno how though |
| 14:24.45 | Gintaro | since he was in quest gear etc |
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| 14:28.14 | Gintaro | reboot for tcpip tweak |
| 14:28.40 | Gintaro | hmm, maybe restarting the device is enough |
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| 14:43.19 | olafski | is it the graphics card driver that handles how fast the fan on my GPU spin? or does it do that internally |
| 14:43.25 | olafski | spins* |
| 14:44.17 | Jamash | based on the fact that bad nvidia drivers were melting people's graphics cards, I'd say it's the driver |
| 14:44.41 | olafski | hm |
| 14:44.53 | eidolarr | it is the gfx driver |
| 14:44.53 | olafski | lately the fan spins up when I play a game, but doesn't spin down anymore when I quit it |
| 14:44.56 | olafski | it used to do that |
| 14:45.06 | Jamash | did you install a new driver? |
| 14:45.16 | olafski | I don't remember doing so.. but maybe :P |
| 14:45.21 | Jamash | also, nvidia or ati? |
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| 14:45.38 | olafski | nvidia.. I installed another monitor about a month ago, I recall having some resolution issues so maybe I booted in safe mode and removed the driver |
| 14:46.26 | olafski | also my monitor (which was broken and now fixed) seems to produce a faint high pitched sound whenever it's displaying something dark, like a full screen irc window.. it stops the second I switch to a white webpage |
| 14:46.38 | Jamash | that's odd |
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| 14:46.55 | eidolarr | do you have a different monitor to diagnose with? |
| 14:48.38 | olafski | I bought a new monitor to replace the broken one, assuming I couldn't fix it.. that one didn't have the issue :P |
| 14:48.46 | olafski | I don't really mind too much, just wondering if it's detrimental |
| 14:49.01 | Jamash | I know why a CRT would make a high pitched noise |
| 14:49.04 | Jamash | no idea why a LCD would |
| 14:49.05 | olafski | I would think it's a refresh rate issue but I doubt that with a TFT |
| 14:50.29 | olafski | I'll install the latest nvidia drivers, see if that magically fixes the fan issue ;) |
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| 14:59.11 | Gintaro | silly tcpip tweak actually works |
| 14:59.28 | Jamash | what's the tweak? |
| 15:00.00 | Gintaro | disabling buffering I think |
| 15:00.27 | Gintaro | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagle%27s_algorithm |
| 15:00.32 | Gintaro | disabling that anyway |
| 15:02.48 | olafski | odd. before I attached my screen (gnu screen this time, not my monitor ;)) it didn't make the noise, but afterwards it did.. so a nearly black screen didn't do it but once it had some irc text on it it does :P |
| 15:05.43 | Jamash | very odd |
| 15:06.19 | Jamash | I <3 screen btw |
| 15:06.49 | olafski | http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090909105245AAmtubn this looks like my issue |
| 15:07.05 | olafski | except it's not so loud that I have to leave the room nor does it make other noises when I switch to something white |
| 15:07.51 | Jamash | I want a screen-like system for X |
| 15:07.56 | Gintaro | olafski, the power adapters with LCDs sometimes make noise |
| 15:08.09 | olafski | yeah.. that might very well be it |
| 15:08.14 | Adys | http://www.notfunnycartoons.com/toondb/100427.html |
| 15:08.16 | olafski | considering that's the part I replaced to repair the monitor to begin with :P |
| 15:08.32 | Jamash | I had a power brick that made a high-pitched whine when it was receiving power but not attached to the laptop |
| 15:08.52 | olafski | guess I should work with music on from now on |
| 15:08.57 | Gintaro | I'm so glad my adapter is outside of the monitor so I can put it away somewhere the noise won't reach me |
| 15:09.04 | Gintaro | Though it hasn't made noise yet |
| 15:09.10 | olafski | I think something screen-like is available for X btw |
| 15:09.15 | Jamash | do tell |
| 15:09.33 | olafski | don't know what it's called and it seemed kind of cumbersome |
| 15:09.33 | Jamash | I spent a few hours looking some time ago and didn't find anything except using vfb and vnc |
| 15:09.35 | olafski | I'll ask :) |
| 15:09.43 | Jamash | which is really not what I want |
| 15:10.00 | Gintaro | what do you want then? |
| 15:10.02 | olafski | grrr @ login server busy |
| 15:10.12 | Lopeppeppy | Welcome to Tuesday, olafski. |
| 15:10.23 | Jamash | basically a X proxy that has attach / detach functionality |
| 15:10.36 | olafski | lopeppeppy: tuesday in the US perhaps ;) |
| 15:10.46 | Jamash | so I can run X apps without worrying that they'll die if my wifi connection drops |
| 15:10.49 | olafski | hm actually this happened last week too.. dunno if that was on a tuesday |
| 15:11.14 | Gintaro | So normal X11 forwarding won't do? |
| 15:11.18 | Jamash | yeah |
| 15:11.43 | Jamash | with X11 forwarding if the connection is interrupted the client exits |
| 15:11.52 | Gintaro | and using some sort of RDP isn't sufficient either? |
| 15:12.04 | Jamash | I could do that, I just don't want to :P |
| 15:12.07 | Gintaro | since you want "intergration" |
| 15:12.54 | Jamash | all I want is something that keeps the X client alive until the connection is resumed |
| 15:13.06 | Jamash | like screen does for console apps |
| 15:15.31 | Jamash | I would have thought it would be a common need, and thus a common app, but I guess X is so heinous it's a lot harder to implement |
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| 15:16.32 | Jamash | oh, there are closed-source X implementations that support it :-/ |
| 15:19.24 | Shirik | closed-source X implementations? |
| 15:19.31 | Shirik | Or do you mean unreleased implementations? |
| 15:20.06 | Jamash | I mean proprietary commercial X implementations |
| 15:20.34 | Shirik | but X is under the MIT license |
| 15:22.03 | Gintaro | Shirik, MIT permits that doesn't it? |
| 15:22.15 | Jamash | the MIT license permits closed-source proprietary versions |
| 15:22.25 | Shirik | doesn't it have a clause that you have to include the MIT license with all substantial copies? |
| 15:22.32 | Jamash | it's pretty much the same as the BSD license |
| 15:22.38 | Jamash | yeah, but not the source |
| 15:22.43 | Shirik | oh |
| 15:22.55 | Jamash | it's a free but not copyleft license |
| 15:25.09 | alestane | Goona say, I was under the impression that X was more a protocol than a code-base. |
| 15:25.16 | Jamash | it's both |
| 15:26.15 | alestane | Well, an interface is useless without at least one implementation. |
| 15:26.25 | Jamash | there's an official reference implementation |
| 15:27.53 | cog|work | "Consume responsibly - limit 3 bottles per day. Not recommended for children, pregnant women, or people sensitive to..." |
| 15:27.57 | cog|work | ... caffeine >< |
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| 15:33.38 | alestane | Considering the amount of Red Bull my coworkers went through when the rest of the store was staffed by people under 24, that's not a bad warning. |
| 15:34.36 | Gintaro | they removed that warning on cans here in NL |
| 15:34.44 | Gintaro | It used to have that, not anymore |
| 15:34.50 | cog|work | hehe |
| 15:36.48 | Gintaro | "Red Bull® Energy Drink is suitable for vegetarians. Red Bull® Energy Drink does not contain any animal products or substances derived from animals." |
| 15:36.50 | Gintaro | wtf?! |
| 15:36.50 | Legorol | I came across a weird situation with the DF today. |
| 15:37.14 | Gintaro | lolol, they actually had redbull tested for being kosher/halal |
| 15:37.15 | Legorol | The run has finished, and 2 of the people (from different realms) wanted to keep together and requeue as a party. |
| 15:37.28 | Legorol | However, a 3rd person (who didn't leave the party yet) didn't want to requeue. |
| 15:37.32 | Gintaro | rofl! |
| 15:37.34 | Gintaro | IS TAURINE MADE FROM BULLS' TESTICLES? IS TAURINE A DERIVATIVE OF BULLS' TESTICLES OR SEMEN? |
| 15:37.40 | Gintaro | It's in their FAQ |
| 15:37.45 | Legorol | So they were standing there, the first 2 trying to requeue, and the 3rd declining. However, the 3rd person couldn't be kicked. |
| 15:37.48 | cog|work | haha |
| 15:37.53 | Gintaro | Who would ask such a question?! |
| 15:38.03 | Legorol | What this resulted in is that the 3rd person could effectively stop the first 2 from being able to carry on grouping together. |
| 15:38.25 | cog|work | Gintaro: i was actually just talking about taurine with my wife last night |
| 15:38.34 | cog|work | that's a common belief |
| 15:38.38 | Legorol | and since the first 2 were cross-realm, if they were to leave themselves, they can't group up again |
| 15:39.09 | Jamash | Legorol: that sucks |
| 15:39.27 | Legorol | yah, so i'm wondering: why can't you kick people after the run is complete? |
| 15:39.49 | alestane | It's an amino acid. |
| 15:39.49 | Legorol | the game defines the run to be finished when you defeat the frost emblem boss, but there could still be other content left that you might want to do |
| 15:39.53 | Legorol | such as skipped optional bosses |
| 15:39.54 | Jamash | dunno, post on the suggestions forum about it imo |
| 15:40.07 | alestane | Cats actually need it in their diet so they don't go blind IIRC. |
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| 15:40.35 | Lonny`1 | I'm trying to replicate the BonusActionBarFrame since I can't move it (or it will taint), here is what I have done so far http://lonny.pastey.net/135769 I'm sure I'm missing a lot of things, can anyone have look at it ? |
| 15:40.36 | durcyn | cats and bull semen, textbook example of a natural symbiosis. |
| 15:41.01 | Jamash | taurine is made from taurens |
| 15:41.04 | Jamash | duh |
| 15:41.08 | cog|work | has come to australia stuck in his head |
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| 15:41.21 | cog|work | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy_TB6onHVE |
| 15:41.56 | Jamash | Lonny`1: have you tried it out in-game yet? |
| 15:42.08 | Lonny`1 | Yeah |
| 15:42.20 | Jamash | so... |
| 15:42.24 | Lonny`1 | and it doesn't work |
| 15:42.31 | Jamash | ah |
| 15:42.32 | Lonny`1 | Nothing changes |
| 15:42.36 | Shirik | what the hell |
| 15:42.40 | Shirik | (11:41:45) (+BetacommandBot2) Stalked summary: "[[WP:AES|ââ Â]]Created page with 'The '''DWTFYWWI''' or '''Do Whatever The Fuck You Want With It''' license grants users of software freedom to share and change it. The license's pithy terms and con...'" (matched fuck) used by [[User:Tisane]], edited [[DWTFYWWI]]; Diff: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=358666097&rcid=369091952 |
| 15:42.40 | Lonny`1 | I'm not sure what's wrong :/ |
| 15:42.44 | Shirik | is that a real license? |
| 15:42.52 | Shirik | ~wiki DWTFYWWI |
| 15:43.21 | nevcairiel | sure, why not |
| 15:43.32 | nevcairiel | I prefer beerware though |
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| 15:46.45 | olafski | jamash: the thing my friend used was "nx server" |
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| 15:52.33 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: then ones created under the influence of beer ? |
| 15:52.46 | nevcairiel | nah |
| 15:53.04 | nevcairiel | its basically public domain, just if you like the software, share a beer with the author |
| 15:53.33 | Maldivia | yeah, I know :) |
| 15:53.34 | Elkano | reminds me of cardware |
| 15:53.41 | Shirik | the best software is created under the influence of beer |
| 15:53.51 | durcyn | all software sucks. |
| 15:53.56 | Maldivia | Elkano, cardware, pizzaware, etc yep :) |
| 15:54.02 | Shirik | purl sucks |
| 15:54.02 | purl | only if you ask nicely and pay well. |
| 15:54.33 | Elkano | ~asl |
| 15:54.34 | purl | Old enough, yes please, my place. |
| 15:57.35 | Lonny`1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:58.13 | Wobin | out of the 250 photos taken at the zoo |
| 15:58.18 | Wobin | a good percentage of them are pure otter |
| 15:58.27 | Wobin | with another large chunk devoted to meerkat |
| 15:58.48 | mikma | http://www.immersivemedia.com/live/stadiumlive/ |
| 15:59.36 | Alleidun | what camera do you use Wobin ? |
| 16:00.57 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/04/27/funny-pictures-of-the-new-rug/ |
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| 16:01.00 | Wobin | 5D Mk I |
| 16:01.13 | Shirik | INFERIOR MODEL |
| 16:01.18 | Alleidun | bah I can't follow on that :/ |
| 16:01.35 | Shirik | Alleidun: Don't let him talk you down, his camera sucks! |
| 16:01.45 | Wobin | Shirik, if you want to buy me a Mk II, I'll gladly accept |
| 16:01.49 | Shirik | :P |
| 16:02.07 | Wobin | I have -no- objections to accepting a gifted MkII! |
| 16:02.28 | Shirik | ok what the fuck |
| 16:02.33 | Shirik | I really do have gnomes in my dryer |
| 16:02.48 | Shirik | I put three things in there: a shirt, pants, and a sock |
| 16:02.49 | Shirik | one sock |
| 16:02.53 | Shirik | and now the sock's gone |
| 16:02.59 | Shirik | I don't see how it's possible to lose it |
| 16:03.01 | nevcairiel | dryers and washing machines eat socks, thats not gnomes, thats just their food |
| 16:04.41 | Alleidun | it's not as much talking me down as the fact that I'm using a D60 with standard objectives Shirik :P |
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| 16:05.37 | batrick | man i get nothing but curse premium spam nowadays |
| 16:05.42 | batrick | with no apparent way to turn it off : / |
| 16:12.04 | Alleidun | Are you on the cam wagon too Shirik ? |
| 16:12.22 | Adys | rogues; is sinister strike useful as mut? |
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| 16:14.13 | Wobin | hm |
| 16:14.24 | Wobin | 114 photos after cropping and discarding 261 |
| 16:14.43 | Wobin | er |
| 16:14.46 | Wobin | out of 261 |
| 16:15.14 | Wobin | so about 40% approval rate |
| 16:15.33 | Wobin | I hate dirty glass at the zoo =( |
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| 16:17.23 | Lopeppeppy | so do they, trust me! |
| 16:17.36 | Lopeppeppy | Find out when they do the cleanings, and go right after, if you want good shots. |
| 16:19.14 | cog|work | how can i find out what display adapter is in an xp machine that has the default vga driver without opening the thing up? |
| 16:19.46 | Alleidun | I don't think you can |
| 16:20.13 | alestane | You mean, what adapter is on the motherboard? |
| 16:20.42 | Alleidun | Unless ofcourse you have some way to access the registry outside xp |
| 16:21.03 | cog|work | the video card, yeah |
| 16:21.13 | nevcairiel | just get a hardware tool thingy like everest |
| 16:21.18 | nevcairiel | or boot linux and look at lspci |
| 16:21.22 | nevcairiel | :p |
| 16:21.22 | cog|work | msinfo gives me info on the sound card even though there's no driver installed |
| 16:21.31 | cog|work | nevcairiel: idd ;) |
| 16:21.50 | cog|work | but the msinfo page for display is empty |
| 16:22.01 | nevcairiel | could look up the pci string in the hardware manager and google for it |
| 16:22.04 | nevcairiel | that usually works |
| 16:23.19 | jadakren | cpuz won't do it ? |
| 16:23.38 | jadakren | or does that rely on having drivers installed ? |
| 16:25.54 | Fisker | btw Shirik |
| 16:26.01 | Fisker | i sold two mechanical chickens for 500g each |
| 16:26.17 | cog|work | nevcairiel: that seems to have worked. thanks |
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| 16:27.22 | Gintaro | Adys, no |
| 16:36.09 | Fisker | cog|work :( |
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| 16:38.44 | Kaso | Is there a way to search purl factoids? |
| 16:38.58 | batrick | Fisker: the money is in the mechanical toads nublet |
| 16:41.34 | Adys | my lvl 5 has more achievement points than my lvl 70 \o/ |
| 16:43.00 | Cide | that is in itself an achievement, Adys |
| 16:43.31 | Wobin | ugh |
| 16:43.36 | nevcairiel | thats possible? :p |
| 16:43.40 | Wobin | facebook has some terrible limitations on upload sizes |
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| 16:44.02 | Adys | nevcairiel: 980 AP on my lvl 5 |
| 16:44.05 | Adys | 700 AP on my lvl 70 |
| 16:44.15 | nevcairiel | did you do like full exploration on the lvl 5? |
| 16:44.19 | durcyn | Wobin: it's unlimited quantity, thusly quality suffers |
| 16:44.24 | Adys | nop, barely got 2 zones explored |
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| 16:44.33 | Wobin | durcyn, it's more the dimensions I have issues with |
| 16:44.35 | nevcairiel | wth is grating you all the points |
| 16:44.42 | nevcairiel | +n |
| 16:44.43 | Wobin | any long photos return an error on my plugin =( |
| 16:44.44 | Adys | world events mostly |
| 16:44.58 | nevcairiel | how many world events can you do on a 5, lol :P |
| 16:45.01 | durcyn | Wobin: you haven't noticed yet how they lower the encode quality on every jpeg that's uploaded? |
| 16:45.06 | Adys | well i got the noble title :P |
| 16:45.10 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 16:45.14 | Wobin | durcyn, I don't expect good quality =P |
| 16:45.20 | Adys | and you can do quite a few |
| 16:46.15 | Adys | though |
| 16:46.19 | sylvanaar_atwork | i think im going to make a new iPhone app for nerds ... tabs vs. spaces' |
| 16:46.20 | Adys | ill definitely get the explorer |
| 16:46.34 | Adys | sylvanaar_atwork: boring |
| 16:46.35 | cog|work | sylvanaar_atwork: elastic tabs imo |
| 16:46.37 | Adys | tabs would always win |
| 16:46.47 | cog|work | http://nickgravgaard.com/elastictabstops/ |
| 16:47.36 | sylvanaar_atwork | not when i have my fully upgraded tab-targeting superblaster |
| 16:48.03 | sylvanaar_atwork | i hate whitespace compression - its not the 70's anymore |
| 16:48.05 | sylvanaar_atwork | ugh |
| 16:48.48 | cog|work | ? |
| 16:49.07 | sylvanaar_atwork | thats why people used tabs to begin with |
| 16:49.11 | sylvanaar_atwork | to save space |
| 16:49.16 | cog|work | O.o |
| 16:49.32 | cog|work | Tabs were around in typography long before computers |
| 16:49.42 | cog|work | I've NEVER used tabs for that reason |
| 16:50.05 | sylvanaar_atwork | 8 spaces vs 1 tab over a large file saved alot of bytes back in ancient times |
| 16:50.20 | cog|work | I really don't think that plays into the religious fight these days |
| 16:50.38 | sylvanaar_atwork | proportional fonts vs fixed width fonts - i never knew that was the issue |
| 16:50.39 | cog|work | (i don't really care either way as long as it's consistent throughout the project) |
| 16:51.10 | Adys | sylvanaar_atwork: tabs were originally designed for indentation, long before programming languages even existed :P |
| 16:51.11 | cog|work | i wouldn't call it "the" issue |
| 16:51.25 | cog|work | elastic tabs would be just as useful for fixed width font |
| 16:51.34 | cog|work | Tabs really are for aliging text like that |
| 16:51.47 | cog|work | (from a typographical point of view) |
| 16:51.55 | sylvanaar_atwork | elastic tabs are about the same as typewriter tabs |
| 16:51.58 | cog|work | exactly |
| 16:52.05 | cog|work | typewriters are hawt |
| 16:52.08 | cog|work | :P |
| 16:52.22 | Adys | use tabs for indent, space for align; elastic tabs are here to make tabs usable for align |
| 16:52.55 | cog|work | that's what i do now, usually |
| 16:53.01 | Adys | ya |
| 16:53.09 | cog|work | (at least until someone makes an elastic tab plugin for vs2010 |
| 16:53.15 | sylvanaar_atwork | i use 'insert spaces for tabs' |
| 16:53.42 | Adys | something people dont seem to understand |
| 16:53.47 | Adys | you can easily convert tabs into spaces |
| 16:53.56 | Adys | you can never convert spaces back into tabs |
| 16:54.03 | sylvanaar_atwork | sure you can |
| 16:54.16 | cog|work | you can, you just have to tell it how many spaces constitutes a tab |
| 16:54.18 | sylvanaar_atwork | thats what 'whitespace compression' was alll about |
| 16:54.31 | sylvanaar_atwork | you have to tell it that the other way as well |
| 16:54.31 | Adys | okay |
| 16:54.59 | Adys | here is a space-indented line: print " " |
| 16:55.01 | sylvanaar_atwork | if you open some random document, you cant convert it to spaces until you know how big the tabs were |
| 16:55.48 | cog|work | so i know XP-7 isn't a supported upgrade path pricing-wise, but will the full version upgrade an existing xp install? |
| 16:56.31 | sylvanaar_atwork | doesn't think so |
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| 16:57.18 | alestane | ...I *think* so... |
| 16:59.07 | sylvanaar_atwork | you cant upgrade xp->7 using an upgrade liscense? |
| 16:59.12 | nevcairiel | you can |
| 16:59.17 | nevcairiel | they initially didnt want to allow it |
| 16:59.19 | sylvanaar_atwork | thats what i thought |
| 16:59.21 | nevcairiel | but they backed out on that |
| 16:59.26 | nevcairiel | because noone had vista |
| 16:59.32 | nevcairiel | and people screamed |
| 16:59.36 | cog|work | oh heh |
| 16:59.45 | nevcairiel | but if its safe to do an upgrade install |
| 16:59.49 | nevcairiel | i never liked upgrade installs :p |
| 16:59.53 | sylvanaar_atwork | me either |
| 17:00.08 | cog|work | i wouldn't if it wasn't a fairly clean install of xp |
| 17:00.15 | Adys | the current state of windows is imo a great time to upgrade to a linux distro :P |
| 17:00.35 | cog|work | can't stand zealotry |
| 17:00.38 | cog|work | :P |
| 17:00.41 | Adys | fedora, debian and ubuntu all have recently released new versions |
| 17:00.56 | sylvanaar_atwork | win7 renewed my old laptop |
| 17:00.59 | cog|work | I'm not at home, btw ;) |
| 17:01.11 | cog|work | and win7 is hawt |
| 17:01.20 | cog|work | MS h8 notwithstanding |
| 17:01.33 | sylvanaar_atwork | MS h8 is out of fasion now |
| 17:01.38 | cog|work | seriously |
| 17:01.45 | Adys | in my personal victory book, I bought a laptop for my mother and she actually asked me to remove windows7 and install "the brown thing" |
| 17:01.48 | Wobin | Cairenn|afk, http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=165896&id=544337198&saved#!/photo.php?pid=4074142&id=544337198 |
| 17:01.57 | cog|work | Adys: hehe :) |
| 17:01.59 | sylvanaar_atwork | ubuntu? |
| 17:02.03 | Adys | yes |
| 17:02.06 | sylvanaar_atwork | that sounds racist |
| 17:02.14 | Adys | well turns out she's getting the Purple thing |
| 17:02.15 | Wobin | pft |
| 17:02.15 | cog|work | >< |
| 17:02.19 | Wobin | 'brown' is not racist |
| 17:02.31 | cog|work | but yeah, MS h8 is so 1995-2005 |
| 17:02.33 | sylvanaar_atwork | it just sounds that way |
| 17:02.48 | cog|work | they've really been trying to move away from their old image |
| 17:03.19 | cog|work | (though you're more likely to realize that if you use their development tools... They're putting out a lot of open source for .Net) |
| 17:03.21 | Adys | they realized brown was a color mostly used to represent poop around the world. |
| 17:03.22 | nevcairiel | win7 is nothing like the broken OSes from before |
| 17:03.27 | alestane | I'm waiting for them to stop trying to sell us on software validation. |
| 17:03.58 | sylvanaar_atwork | well, that is their business |
| 17:04.09 | alestane | "You deserve to know if an illegal copy of our software has been foisted off on you!" |
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| 17:04.33 | cog|work | yeah, WGA is pretty dumb, but that's a business thing not a quality of product thing |
| 17:04.38 | Adys | it's called FUD |
| 17:04.43 | sylvanaar_atwork | well, read it as "we don't want to be giving away our software" |
| 17:04.59 | nevcairiel | i havent used a pirated windows since win2k, so shrug |
| 17:05.03 | nevcairiel | never noticed anything =p |
| 17:05.17 | sylvanaar_atwork | i used pirated windows until they started making it more difficult |
| 17:05.18 | alestane | It is their business. But if they'd spent the time and energy they put into protecting Windows installations, into improving their software and their image, I think they'd be about three years ahead of where they are now. |
| 17:05.35 | alestane | And probably have less piracy to boot. |
| 17:05.40 | cog|work | it doesn't work that way |
| 17:05.42 | sylvanaar_atwork | im a good example of how WGA works |
| 17:05.55 | sylvanaar_atwork | i would never have paid for liscenses |
| 17:06.00 | Cide | they wouldn't have less piracy |
| 17:06.05 | Cide | they would have more piracy |
| 17:06.07 | Cide | and their image is fine |
| 17:06.10 | sylvanaar_atwork | until they made it inconvienient for me |
| 17:06.13 | nevcairiel | its not like i paid for my windows |
| 17:06.17 | nevcairiel | but i would pay for 7 if i had to |
| 17:06.19 | nevcairiel | its a good OS |
| 17:06.26 | cog|work | alestane: there's nothing keeping them from doing both, and indeed they have |
| 17:06.30 | Adys | why would they have more piracy? |
| 17:06.32 | sylvanaar_atwork | i got the family pack of 7 - that was a good deal |
| 17:06.35 | alestane | Vehement copy protection often causes self-righteousness among pirates. They feel like they're sticking it to the man. |
| 17:06.50 | Cide | because easier to pirate => more piracy WHEN IT COMES TO THE MOST POPULAR OPERATING SYSTEM ON THE PLANET (<= disclaimer) |
| 17:06.53 | nevcairiel | there will always be pirates |
| 17:06.57 | cog|work | could they have started sooner? sure, but improvements to the functionality aren't hindered by the fact that they have developers working on WGA |
| 17:06.58 | nevcairiel | but pirates are not the problem |
| 17:06.59 | Adys | Cide, wrong :p |
| 17:07.02 | Cide | right |
| 17:07.04 | nevcairiel | the people "buying" from the pirates are |
| 17:07.04 | alestane | There will always be some. |
| 17:07.05 | Fisker | meh sticking it to the man has nothing to do with Windows |
| 17:07.15 | Fisker | only pirated due to price |
| 17:07.16 | Adys | windows licenses are sold to manufacturers and they're the biggest market share of all |
| 17:07.19 | cog|work | also, i don't need to pirate, i have MSDN >< |
| 17:07.19 | Cide | most people using windows don't want to use another OS |
| 17:07.31 | Adys | honestly |
| 17:07.35 | Cide | be it for gaming, not knowing how to use another os, or whatever |
| 17:07.48 | sylvanaar_atwork | cog|work: you know that you can't use those os liscenses for your personal pcs right |
| 17:07.55 | Cide | if you can just download it as if it was freeware 5 seconds away from google.com, a lot of people would |
| 17:08.05 | Cide | because that's the alternative to buying it |
| 17:08.08 | nevcairiel | I'm just too lazy to use linux, it limits my productivity by constantly challenging me to fix some silly issue that "just works" on windows |
| 17:08.13 | cog|work | sylvanaar_atwork: yes... that was just a little joke :P |
| 17:08.16 | Adys | how many people aware of how to find a pirated a windows license do you know, whom actually know windows is sold separately from their laptops or whatever? |
| 17:08.16 | Cide | using ubuntu or another linux distro isn't feasible for a lot of people |
| 17:08.16 | nevcairiel | be it gfx, sound, or whatever subsystem linux lacks |
| 17:08.33 | Fisker | Microsoft doesn't really care about that anyway sylvanaar_atwork |
| 17:08.41 | Cide | Adys: like everyone in my family besides me for one |
| 17:08.42 | sylvanaar_atwork | cog|work: i use msdn too (shhh....) |
| 17:08.43 | Fisker | i recall seeing Microsoft actually encouraging you to do so |
| 17:08.56 | Adys | the people who pirate windows dont give a shit about all the FUD |
| 17:08.56 | cog|work | looks around suspiciously |
| 17:09.04 | Cide | FUD? |
| 17:09.07 | Adys | and the people who don't ... wouldnt know how to |
| 17:09.10 | Adys | yes |
| 17:09.11 | Adys | fud |
| 17:09.13 | alestane | Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. |
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| 17:09.47 | Adys | "Oh my god, you might be infected with a PIRATED version of Windows! <shows deadly pirate skull>" |
| 17:10.03 | Kraps | hey Fisker |
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| 17:10.06 | Fisker | you could Adys |
| 17:10.15 | sylvanaar_atwork | that's their way of not alienating the average user |
| 17:10.30 | Adys | it's retarded. |
| 17:10.33 | Kraps | proof that your country is fail http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/13200614011/the-problems-wiht-make-post/ |
| 17:10.36 | Adys | and dishonest |
| 17:10.44 | Cide | dishonest? |
| 17:10.50 | Adys | how many people are involuntatily using pirated licenses? |
| 17:10.57 | cog|work | all of china? |
| 17:11.01 | Cide | how is it dishonest? |
| 17:11.03 | sylvanaar_atwork | 'you have an illegal copy of windows'...'we can make you legal without involving the police, would you like to do that?' |
| 17:11.12 | Fisker | just because his name is Denmark it doesn't mean he is danish :( |
| 17:11.21 | cog|work | disingenuous, maybe, but certainly not dishonest |
| 17:11.37 | Adys | We are speaking of WGA here, right? |
| 17:11.42 | Fisker | I thought by "infected with a pirated version" you meant the pirated version had malware and shit |
| 17:11.54 | Adys | No |
| 17:12.11 | Kraps | Fisker: yes |
| 17:12.15 | Adys | it's like governments trying to sell you into a false sense of security |
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| 17:12.42 | Lunessa | station |
| 17:12.43 | Adys | because forbidden nailclippers are obviously going to stop terrorism |
| 17:12.44 | Adys | so on |
| 17:12.50 | sylvanaar_atwork | shoes |
| 17:12.59 | sylvanaar_atwork | shoes in the xray |
| 17:13.18 | sylvanaar_atwork | stupidest thing ever |
| 17:13.26 | Cide | what are you talking about Adys? |
| 17:13.27 | Fisker | OMG WATCH OUT |
| 17:13.29 | Cide | false sense of security? |
| 17:13.29 | cog|work | ohai Lunessa |
| 17:13.29 | Fisker | IT'S A HAKER |
| 17:13.36 | Fisker | "If I wanted to and had access to a pc, I'd attempt to redirect your connections to the login server to a server of my own (by modifying the hosts file in the operating system)" |
| 17:13.43 | Lunessa | ohai, i can has conversation? |
| 17:13.44 | Cide | how do you suggest they go about doing business? |
| 17:13.54 | Fisker | Yeah bypassing WoW's authentication is obviously just a matter of modifying the hosts file |
| 17:13.55 | Fisker | hurr hurr |
| 17:13.56 | cog|work | Fisker: IT'S A HAKKAR |
| 17:14.11 | Kraps | they check under yarmulkes in new yorks laguardia airport |
| 17:14.22 | Adys | cog|work: HEAR YOUR GOD |
| 17:14.22 | Cide | "oh hey, you're using a pirated version of windows. good for you, here are some free updates" |
| 17:14.27 | Fisker | he also said Radeon was faster at cracking MD5 and SHA-1 hashes than using CUDA |
| 17:14.34 | Fisker | also that they're both as fast to crack |
| 17:15.05 | Adys | Okay Cide, hold on |
| 17:15.15 | Cide | didn't NSA recommend not to use SHA-1? |
| 17:15.41 | Adys | how would you feel if, say, WGA as it is wasn't shipped with windows, but with some other product like Adobe Reader or Flash or whatever other popular shit there is |
| 17:15.56 | Adys | If you wouldn't call it malware, I don't know you. |
| 17:16.05 | Cide | what the hell does that have to do with anything? |
| 17:16.09 | cog|work | try making a fair analogy |
| 17:16.09 | Cide | adobe reader is freeware |
| 17:16.12 | Cide | so is flash |
| 17:16.16 | Cide | (in terms of plugins) |
| 17:16.17 | Adys | that isnt my point |
| 17:16.36 | Adys | what wga does is malware/spyware work |
| 17:16.40 | Cide | nope |
| 17:16.47 | Cide | it tells you your version of windows is pirated |
| 17:16.49 | cog|work | tinfoil hat ms h8r time |
| 17:16.57 | cog|work | psst Adys: your bias is showing |
| 17:17.24 | Adys | cog|work: how does calling wga spyware make me biased? |
| 17:17.32 | Adys | you guys call warden spyware for all i care. |
| 17:17.35 | cog|work | malware/spyware... |
| 17:17.47 | Adys | Fine, spyware |
| 17:17.49 | cog|work | implies a certain intent |
| 17:17.58 | Cide | how does it spy on you? |
| 17:18.09 | Adys | How does warden spy on you? |
| 17:18.16 | Cide | how are the two alike? |
| 17:18.35 | Adys | heres my point, it does shit people wouldn't want it to do if it were advertised as such |
| 17:19.00 | Cide | oh |
| 17:19.06 | sylvanaar_atwork | and they owned pirated copies of windows |
| 17:19.08 | Adys | and in both cases, john doe doesnt care |
| 17:19.16 | Adys | but the fud is directed at john doe |
| 17:19.17 | Cide | so pirates have rights to use their pirated software in any way they want? |
| 17:19.21 | Adys | and thats what i have an issue with |
| 17:19.25 | Fisker | i don't want WGA sylvaan |
| 17:19.30 | Fisker | i didn't pirate windows |
| 17:19.37 | Fisker | ZOMG UNIVERSE EXPLODES |
| 17:19.48 | sylvanaar_atwork | it doesnt bother me i guess |
| 17:20.03 | Adys | Cide: it's a matter of freedom. im not condemning microsoft for doing illegal business or anything |
| 17:20.08 | Cide | what freedom? |
| 17:20.10 | Adys | Im condemning them for forcing lock-ins |
| 17:20.11 | Cide | you have no freedom if you pirate |
| 17:20.19 | Cide | would you prefer windows to just shutdown on average joe? |
| 17:20.22 | sylvanaar_atwork | except those times i had to call india to activate windows because i replaced the main hard drive |
| 17:20.29 | Adys | okay see, THIS is biased |
| 17:20.31 | sylvanaar_atwork | which were 2 times |
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| 17:20.47 | Adys | try making some real life comparisons |
| 17:21.15 | cog|work | ok... a store will ask you for a receipt before they will return an item for replacement |
| 17:21.24 | cog|work | ZOMG THEY'RE INFRINGING ON YOUR RIGHTS TO PRIVACY |
| 17:21.25 | sylvanaar_atwork | ok, I have a stolen iphone 4G, i want to update my apps on itunes |
| 17:21.43 | Adys | cog|work: how about something sensitive? |
| 17:21.58 | sylvanaar_atwork | but apple disabled the phone remotely - unfair |
| 17:22.01 | cog|work | like credit card info that may be on the receipt? |
| 17:22.13 | cog|work | or ... as if the fact that your version of windows is pirated is sensitive? |
| 17:22.35 | Adys | such as, "because anyone might possess illegal material, the government reserves the right to kick you out of your home and search all your belongings at any time" |
| 17:22.45 | cog|work | Huh? |
| 17:22.47 | Adys | and in some countries thats the case |
| 17:22.52 | NightHawkTheSane | not to distract from this /thrilling/ discussion, but i found this amusing in the BBEdit 9.5 release notes: The ponies' saronite shoes have been reinforced with titanium, and have a buff applied which increases both ground and flight speed by 30%. |
| 17:23.12 | sylvanaar_atwork | really |
| 17:23.12 | alestane | ... what? |
| 17:23.22 | Kaso | How does the ICC buff work with extended locks? Will it update on reset tommorrow even in our extended lock? |
| 17:23.53 | Adys | Kaso: it will update |
| 17:24.00 | Adys | spells are not tied to raid locks |
| 17:24.23 | Adys | they're tied to npcs which are tied to raid locks themselves, however its the same npc casting a different spell when spawned back |
| 17:24.23 | Kaso | cool |
| 17:24.49 | Adys | (and iirc it recasts the buff every now and then actually) |
| 17:25.46 | Gnarfoz | resetting the instance will turn the buff back on, too |
| 17:26.53 | Adys | apparently my guild has finally reached LK |
| 17:27.14 | Adys | Shadowed|away: come back :( |
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| 17:30.40 | Fisker | i got my rocket |
| 17:31.12 | Lopeppeppy | Is that treatable with antibiotics? |
| 17:32.57 | alestane | missed Peppy these last couple weeks. |
| 17:33.08 | Fisker | nope Lopeppeppy |
| 17:33.33 | Lopeppeppy | I missed me too, alestane. |
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| 17:34.07 | alestane | hangs a rubber snake over Lopeppeppy's monitor. |
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| 17:42.51 | cog|work | I hung a rubber snake from the hall light outside my mom's room once >< |
| 17:43.06 | Thunder_Child | how did that go? |
| 17:43.24 | cog|work | as planned XD |
| 17:43.47 | alestane | You planned on getting knocked across the room? |
| 17:44.06 | mikma | cog|work is into bdsm, and he got a good spanking |
| 17:44.16 | cog|work | nah... she was raised by hippies |
| 17:44.51 | cog|work | besides a shriek and various "omg i cant believe you did that"s, it was all good |
| 17:44.59 | alestane | So was I...admittedly I don't think they ever resorted to corporeal punishment after I was about four. |
| 17:45.16 | alestane | After that they just get "very disappointed in you." |
| 17:45.40 | Thunder_Child | lol, they instituted incorporeal punishment? |
| 17:45.44 | cog|work | she's not phobic or anythin |
| 17:45.47 | cog|work | Thunder_Child: rofl |
| 17:46.01 | alestane | MUCH more effective, Thunder_Child. |
| 17:46.06 | Thunder_Child | i'll bet |
| 17:46.27 | cog|work | I consider myself raised by hippies as well |
| 17:46.38 | cog|work | even went to the open classroom |
| 17:47.08 | Lunessa | After I was 10, my mom never whooped me. And by the time I was 14 I was too big. And I moved out at 15, removing the temptation entirely. |
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| 17:56.45 | Dagmar | Lunessa: Yeah but you got *some* beatings, which is more than can be said for most of the people who post on the forums |
| 17:57.08 | Lunessa | Dagmar: True. Some of those people need a few more beatings. |
| 17:57.18 | Lunessa | At least until morale improves. |
| 17:58.18 | Fisker | after robotusch got to try out my mount he curiously left the party very quickly |
| 18:03.51 | Dagmar | s/some/most/; s/few more/regular/; |
| 18:12.20 | alestane | "If you took all the good parts and put them in a pile, you could fit the pile in your pocket." |
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| 18:13.57 | Lunessa | This macro makes baby jesus cry: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=24401796891&sid=1 |
| 18:16.19 | alestane | That macro is crying itself. |
| 18:17.23 | Lunessa | There's so much wrong going in in there that it makes me want to smack the player. I don't even know how to respond without using language that will get me a vacation. |
| 18:17.55 | Dagmar | "You're trying to create another IWIN button. These are doomed to fail." |
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| 18:20.14 | Lunessa | Stealing that. |
| 18:21.35 | alestane | Beat you to it. |
| 18:22.03 | alestane | Seeing if I can get the OP to at least admit it. |
| 18:23.18 | olafski | doesn't look too bad to me |
| 18:23.20 | olafski | the intention that is |
| 18:24.00 | Lunessa | Meh, I responded. I still hate the macro I posted, but it's much, much better. |
| 18:24.43 | olafski | you missed the nocombat on the faery fire |
| 18:25.35 | olafski | perhaps that's intentional.. same with the reset=target/3 instead of target/5 |
| 18:25.38 | Lunessa | fixt |
| 18:25.54 | Lunessa | I did reset 3 on purpose. |
| 18:26.04 | olafski | mkay |
| 18:26.19 | olafski | will that ever reach the rip? |
| 18:26.36 | Lunessa | in combat, 5 seconds is a really, really, really long time to go without hitting you "spam like a crack-monkey" button. |
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| 18:26.53 | olafski | with zero latency it will do 3 shreds and then reach the 3 seconds and reset |
| 18:26.58 | Thunder_Child | mmm...crack monkeys |
| 18:27.13 | alestane | Also, you left the empty rank marker off of Mangle (Cat)(). |
| 18:27.16 | Lunessa | ZERO latency. Which fictional universe do you live in? |
| 18:27.36 | olafski | lunessa: with more than zero latency it will reset for sure, rather than sometimes I'd say |
| 18:27.48 | olafski | (if you spam the button exactly right with zero latency it might rip from time to time) |
| 18:27.50 | Lunessa | idle timer. |
| 18:28.05 | Lunessa | So every time you whack it, you reset the time. |
| 18:28.06 | olafski | 3 means an idle timer? oh |
| 18:28.17 | olafski | I thought 3 seconds after it did the first spell in the sequence |
| 18:28.21 | olafski | never used a castsequence.. |
| 18:28.59 | Lunessa | It's not a cooldown timer. If it were, every death knight and fury/warrior would have 1 button IWIN macros. |
| 18:29.23 | olafski | hm makes sense |
| 18:29.51 | olafski | ..I think :P |
| 18:30.07 | olafski | don't really feel like thinking about it, I tend to do my rotations fully manually |
| 18:30.24 | olafski | though I have put maul on my swipe and lacerate buttons I think |
| 18:30.59 | Lunessa | I use a cast sequence to do Stormstrike & Lava Lash as a enhancement shaman. A two-spell sequence with a really short reset time condition works pretty well. :) |
| 18:31.50 | olafski | hm guess so |
| 18:32.02 | olafski | actually I might have one on my shaman too, for the two weapon enhancements |
| 18:32.07 | olafski | don't remember how I did that one |
| 18:33.30 | Lunessa | Meh, those are easy since the buffs are applied MH -> |
| 18:33.32 | Lunessa | OH |
| 18:34.01 | olafski | yes, so a castsequence that casts both I guess |
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| 18:36.05 | Lunessa | Yeah, I have an added "wipe temp weapon buffs" script added to mine to strip stuff off if I want to use a different set of enchants for PVP or a specific fight. |
| 18:36.10 | Lunessa | Not like I ever use it. |
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| 18:37.00 | olafski | ah |
| 18:37.01 | Adys | Is there a way to know whether a unit is an aggressive player pet? |
| 18:37.09 | Adys | such as water elem, warlock minion or hunter pet |
| 18:37.21 | Adys | UnitIsPlayerControlled will also return non-combat pets or quest pets |
| 18:37.24 | alestane | In what context, Adys? |
| 18:37.25 | olafski | don't think I'd ever use it.. I don't pvp, I just do those enchants when I switch spec or when they run out :) |
| 18:37.31 | Adys | alestane: in wow? :P |
| 18:37.46 | olafski | adys: can't you combine that with something like UnitIsHostile or something? |
| 18:37.50 | alestane | From Lua, within a secure macro command, through a stock UI element.... |
| 18:37.58 | olafski | I don't know the exact api but I guess there's a method that can find that kind of thing out |
| 18:38.23 | Adys | olafski: i want to return friendlies too |
| 18:38.27 | Adys | alestane: from an addon |
| 18:38.44 | olafski | hm |
| 18:38.53 | olafski | check if HP > 1? :$ |
| 18:39.00 | Adys | no :P |
| 18:39.04 | olafski | not sure if non combat pets have 1hp.. and quest pets definitely do I guess |
| 18:39.08 | olafski | (do have more) |
| 18:39.22 | Adys | they have 42 hp |
| 18:39.28 | Adys | but thats not the thing |
| 18:40.27 | Adys | basically i want to be able to record health per level of player-owned units that do not change hp |
| 18:41.53 | fiercerest | what do you mean "that do not change hp" |
| 18:42.23 | fiercerest | player's pets do change hp, dont they? |
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| 18:46.37 | Cairenn|afk | WobWork: nice shot! |
| 18:49.00 | Adys | fiercerest: player pets hp scale with player health |
| 18:49.12 | Adys | i want to record hp of player controlled ones that don't |
| 18:49.37 | fiercerest | which ones dont. dont they all |
| 18:50.06 | Adys | pets :) |
| 18:50.10 | Adys | non combat pets that is |
| 18:50.12 | Adys | and quest pets |
| 18:50.23 | fiercerest | non combat pets are all 42hp i think |
| 18:50.51 | Adys | no :) |
| 18:50.56 | Adys | in other news |
| 18:50.56 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/54860/x-53-touring-rocket/ |
| 18:51.07 | Fisker | ooooooold |
| 18:51.08 | Fisker | :3 |
| 18:51.32 | Gintaro | 15% buff! |
| 18:51.39 | Adys | oooooold. |
| 18:51.42 | Gintaro | :P |
| 18:52.02 | Gintaro | less old then your news |
| 18:52.27 | Adys | no its not |
| 18:52.34 | Gnarfoz | you're both old |
| 18:52.34 | Adys | http://www.mmo-champion.com/news-2/icecrown-citadel-buff-increased-to-15/ |
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| 18:57.06 | fiercerest | Adys: i dont really understand what pets ur talking about or what ur trying to do |
| 18:57.24 | Adys | hunter pets and warlock pets |
| 18:57.30 | Adys | OH |
| 18:57.36 | Adys | i can probably single them out in GUIDs |
| 18:59.51 | Adys | 0xF130001D7B0114AF 0xF1406DCDA20001E3 0xF140836F6F000173 |
| 18:59.57 | Adys | last two are hunter pets |
| 19:00.05 | Adys | 0xF14084B9CD00018E and this is a warlock pet |
| 19:00.45 | fiercerest | but hunter pets ARE combat pets |
| 19:00.48 | Adys | yes |
| 19:01.00 | Adys | if i can single those off, i can single the other category out :) |
| 19:01.06 | Lopeppeppy | is a psycho muppet! |
| 19:01.11 | fiercerest | and their health does scale |
| 19:01.15 | Adys | ... yes |
| 19:01.41 | fiercerest | you said ur looking for pets that dont have health scaling |
| 19:02.00 | Adys | ... and if i can single scaling pets, i can single non-scaling pets |
| 19:02.09 | Adys | if i know A, i can figure out B... |
| 19:02.22 | fiercerest | ah...why are you doing this |
| 19:02.27 | Adys | CUZ |
| 19:03.44 | Thunder_Child | because Adys would rather do that then MARK FISHING NODES |
| 19:03.57 | fiercerest | can you give an example of one of these pets u are looking for |
| 19:05.06 | fiercerest | like, do you mean budd? |
| 19:05.14 | Adys | wat |
| 19:05.19 | Adys | Thunder_Child: meh |
| 19:05.25 | Adys | for cata |
| 19:05.41 | Thunder_Child | my foot in your ass for cata |
| 19:05.50 | Adys | me enjoying it for cata |
| 19:06.05 | fiercerest | Budd, from the quest in grizzly hills |
| 19:06.47 | Adys | right |
| 19:07.03 | Adys | im talking both about player non-combat summoned pets |
| 19:07.06 | Adys | and about quest pets |
| 19:07.54 | fiercerest | aren/t all non-combat pets 42 though |
| 19:08.33 | Adys | No |
| 19:08.43 | Adys | some non combat pets are lvl 5 for example |
| 19:09.02 | fiercerest | example? |
| 19:09.25 | Thunder_Child | ...wait, why is 30 followed by th in dates? it makes no sense |
| 19:09.40 | Thunder_Child | 29th != sound like 30th |
| 19:09.42 | Adys | fiercerest: jubling |
| 19:09.44 | Kaso | Whats the purl factoid for the wow status? |
| 19:09.45 | Adys | lvl 5; 102 hp |
| 19:09.47 | Adys | ~wow |
| 19:09.48 | purl | i heard wow is world of warcraft |
| 19:09.58 | alestane | ~wowalert |
| 19:09.59 | purl | http://launcher.worldofwarcraft.com/alert (US); http://status.wow-europe.com/en/alert (EU) [NB: URL goes to 404 unless there's an active alert] |
| 19:10.08 | Thunder_Child | fail Adys |
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| 19:12.07 | Adys | i thought he wanted to know what the "wow" factoid was |
| 19:12.34 | Thunder_Child | 'wow status' |
| 19:12.46 | Adys | I THINK YOU SUCK AND IM RIGHT |
| 19:13.19 | Thunder_Child | according to my friend anything that comes out of my mouth is wrong |
| 19:17.14 | Adys | so according to your friend, your friend is wrong? |
| 19:17.20 | Adys | since you just said that. |
| 19:17.34 | Adys | but wow how that sentence can mean 100 different things |
| 19:18.56 | Thunder_Child | the idea is anything i say is wrong |
| 19:19.04 | Thunder_Child | not the dirty stuff you thought of |
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| 19:34.26 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: How do you know what dirty stuff I thought? |
| 19:34.48 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa: i already though of it |
| 19:34.53 | Thunder_Child | thought* |
| 19:35.00 | Lunessa | Ah. Perv. |
| 19:35.08 | Thunder_Child | oh, absolutly |
| 19:35.19 | Thunder_Child | absolutely* |
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| 19:38.06 | Gintaro | btw, what do I do when ToTT is permanently on cooldown |
| 19:38.15 | Gintaro | as in, I can't activate it again |
| 19:38.23 | Gintaro | It just sits there, greyed out |
| 19:38.35 | olafski | you've cast it on someone but haven't attacked yet? |
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| 19:44.04 | Gintaro | No |
| 19:44.13 | Gintaro | Because eventually it would come up again |
| 19:44.24 | Gintaro | It's been 10 minutes since I've last been able to activate it |
| 19:44.30 | Gintaro | Oh! |
| 19:44.33 | Gintaro | Dying solved it |
| 19:47.30 | Lopeppeppy | That often clears up most mysteries. |
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| 19:50.12 | Lunessa | Well, dying solves one mystery for all of us. The problem is we don't get to come back and tell everyone else. |
| 19:50.23 | mikma | cairenn|afk: http://www.geekologie.com/2010/04/the_cutest_lil_runt_ever_a_6po.php |
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| 19:52.43 | Thunder_Child | http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xd2os5_saturday-night-live-digital-short-c_fun |
| 19:54.02 | Cide | go go region restrictions |
| 19:54.08 | Thunder_Child | :( |
| 19:54.44 | Fisker | gogo VPN |
| 19:55.07 | Arrowmaster | go go OS restrictions |
| 19:56.52 | Thunder_Child | your OS wont let you set up a VPN? |
| 19:57.39 | Arrowmaster | no hulu blocks my OS |
| 19:57.53 | Thunder_Child | what? |
| 19:58.06 | Arrowmaster | theyve been blocking 64bit linux for months |
| 19:58.10 | durcyn | masking browser user-agents is hard |
| 19:58.24 | Arrowmaster | they do it in flash |
| 20:04.12 | Shirik | why would you do that? |
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| 20:08.16 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: VirtualBox |
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| 20:11.35 | Lunessa | I do so love patching software. |
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| 20:20.59 | Lunessa | All dressed up with nowhere to go. Walkin' with a dead man over my shoulder. |
| 20:21.53 | Thunder_Child | i think Lunessa is getting more cryptic in his old age |
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| 20:22.13 | Lunessa | Going to a dead man's party. |
| 20:22.25 | Thunder_Child | so....a wake> |
| 20:22.27 | Thunder_Child | ?* |
| 20:22.32 | foxlit | Level 80 Decaying Colossus Decaying Colossus (Player) |
| 20:22.49 | Lunessa | is lisetning to Oingo Boingo albums. |
| 20:22.50 | Cairenn | trips Lunessa |
| 20:23.47 | Lunessa | falls, gabbing Cairenn to pull down on top of him. GOTCHA! |
| 20:24.36 | Cairenn | can't, the dead man that was on your shoulder fell on you |
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| 20:26.02 | Lunessa | Damn it. Cairenn is like Pokeman, gotta catch her. |
| 20:26.41 | Shirik | Cairenn is very difficult to catch, she is a feisty one |
| 20:26.50 | Thunder_Child | " We're removing personal rating requirements on almost all items; they're definitely removed for weapons." yay |
| 20:27.35 | Shirik | ~weather kdab |
| 20:27.40 | alestane | You seriously did NOT just compare Cairenn to Pikachu. |
| 20:27.44 | Shirik | Cairenn ^ |
| 20:27.57 | Cairenn | Shirik: :p |
| 20:29.38 | Lunessa | alestane: No, only to the class in general of "gotta catch 'em" things. |
| 20:30.10 | Lunessa | And especially tricksy and difficult to catch things. |
| 20:31.03 | alestane | Oh, so now she's a leprechaun. |
| 20:31.29 | Lunessa | Well, she IS Gaelic. |
| 20:32.02 | Thunder_Child | but she doesnt have the streak of evil that leprechauns do however |
| 20:32.15 | zenzelezz | you just don't know how to entice her |
| 20:34.14 | Lunessa | Well, the pot of gold didn't work. So I'm thinking we just have to try naughty shoes next. |
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| 20:35.02 | Thunder_Child | the pot 'o gold would work with me |
| 20:35.17 | zenzelezz | with you, yes |
| 20:35.27 | zenzelezz | girls don't tend to like it when you try to use money to entice them |
| 20:35.38 | Thunder_Child | BS |
| 20:35.51 | zenzelezz | you need to look past the girls on the street corner |
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| 20:36.51 | Thunder_Child | i'm not talking about handiong someone a fistfull of dolars |
| 20:37.04 | Shirik | I think Cairenn is more like a mudkip |
| 20:37.06 | Lunessa | I'm not saying she's immune to the siren call of cash. I'm just saying you won't win her love with it. |
| 20:37.06 | Shirik | everyone likes them |
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| 20:37.46 | Shirik | Seerah |
| 20:37.51 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa: we were talking about enticing her to hate us...not love |
| 20:37.53 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 20:37.53 | Shirik | if Cairenn were any pokemon, what would she be? |
| 20:37.54 | Lunessa | is totally waiting for the *you have been banned from the channel* message and a sternly worded e-mail or text from Cairenn. |
| 20:38.00 | Thunder_Child | or at least use her mean streak |
| 20:38.15 | Seerah | wat |
| 20:38.28 | Shirik | seriously |
| 20:38.30 | Shirik | pick one |
| 20:38.49 | Cairenn | laughs |
| 20:39.37 | Fisker | Cairenn would be a koffing |
| 20:39.42 | Thunder_Child | yea, she laughs till we start talking about the "Cairenn fan club", then the laughing goes away |
| 20:39.51 | *** kick/#wowuidev [Thunder_Child!~Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn (Thunder_Child) |
| 20:40.08 | Kalroth | aww |
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| 20:40.13 | Fisker | is awesome |
| 20:40.19 | Fisker | hey Thunder_Child |
| 20:40.20 | Fisker | guess what |
| 20:40.21 | Thunder_Child | i win |
| 20:40.25 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 20:40.43 | Cairenn | I do try to oblige ... every now and then, at least |
| 20:40.50 | Lunessa | I think she needs these: http://www.punitiveshoes.com/database/ballets/palio.shtml |
| 20:40.56 | Cairenn | no |
| 20:41.16 | Dagmar | You go on some *really* shifty sites |
| 20:41.19 | Cairenn | those ones do nothing for me |
| 20:41.35 | kd3 | scrolls up |
| 20:41.36 | kd3 | wait, wha? |
| 20:41.42 | Thunder_Child | oh...she has tried them alredy |
| 20:41.46 | Thunder_Child | already* |
| 20:41.46 | Lunessa | Cairenn: A secret - when a man buys you naughty shoes, it's not what they do for YOU he's thinking about. :P |
| 20:42.07 | Dagmar | Caireen: Keep that in mind the next time a man buys you naughty shoes. ;) |
| 20:42.09 | Cairenn | Thunder_Child: no, I looked at them when he linked them before and went, "umm, no" |
| 20:42.16 | Thunder_Child | besides, it must take forever to lace thoes things up |
| 20:42.23 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn: ah. |
| 20:42.23 | durcyn | what the fuck are naughty shoes, do they have pictures of genitals on them? |
| 20:42.31 | Dagmar | durcyn: Look at the URL |
| 20:42.36 | Shirik | ok so I've been going through all the bands that I've picked on last.fm and pandora |
| 20:42.39 | Cairenn | Lunessa: Dagmar *dws* |
| 20:42.40 | Lunessa | The URL is SFW |
| 20:42.41 | Shirik | They're mostly finnish metal |
| 20:42.43 | Dagmar | Thunder_Child: WHAT DID I SAY ABOUT COMPLAINTS |
| 20:42.47 | Shirik | what's up with the fins and metal |
| 20:42.54 | Maldivia | why would any woman put on a pair of shoes that make her feel like a horse? |
| 20:42.58 | Thunder_Child | Dagmar: i dunno, what did you say? |
| 20:43.05 | Thunder_Child | Maldivia: roleplaying |
| 20:43.09 | zenzelezz | you guys clearly don't know dominatrices |
| 20:43.09 | Dagmar | Thunder_Child: I mean, cmon. Look at those shoes and tell me if someone putting htem on is allowed to bitch about how long it takes to lace them |
| 20:43.53 | Thunder_Child | Dagmar: nothing wrong with a well disguised zipper |
| 20:43.53 | Cairenn | besides which, the lacing wouldn't be that bad to do |
| 20:43.54 | Maldivia | Dagmar: most likely, the one wearing them is not the one tying the laces... |
| 20:43.58 | Cairenn | wouldn't take all that long |
| 20:44.13 | Dagmar | Thunder_Child: For those? I think you miss the point |
| 20:44.33 | Lunessa | I'll be honest, I just like thigh-high boots and shiny leather. The heels/metal bits aren't the point. |
| 20:44.34 | Thunder_Child | Dagmar: the point is the pony, not the laces |
| 20:44.43 | zenzelezz | it's cute how you're all trying to pretend you don't know how this works |
| 20:44.53 | Dagmar | I think some of them genuinely don't know |
| 20:45.00 | Lunessa | I'm not pretending. I *know* |
| 20:45.09 | zenzelezz | maybe Shirik doesn't, but the rest do |
| 20:45.13 | Maldivia | Thunder_Child: might be roleplaying, but if she is being told she looks like a horse, I do think you're in for something hurtful |
| 20:45.20 | kd3 | looks for more popcorn |
| 20:45.23 | Shirik | ? |
| 20:45.24 | Dagmar | I had a pretty good time last time I was at the Chamber |
| 20:45.44 | Thunder_Child | Maldivia: there are...sexy ways of putting it |
| 20:45.45 | Shirik | wtf ._. |
| 20:45.48 | Lunessa | kd3: My work here is done. |
| 20:45.50 | Dagmar | Hint: They |
| 20:45.57 | zenzelezz | Thunder_Child: "ride me, baby"? |
| 20:46.04 | Dagmar | Hint: The shoes are not necessarily meant to have anything to do with horses |
| 20:46.12 | Thunder_Child | zenzelezz: of calling someone a horse |
| 20:46.38 | zenzelezz | I suppose you're right. It's not a habit of mine to do so |
| 20:47.05 | Thunder_Child | Dagmar: you can use many things to do different things, i am going with what they suggest, no what *can* be done with them |
| 20:47.41 | Dagmar | Someone take TC with them to a bondage club |
| 20:47.44 | Maldivia | Dagmar: <quote> These boots are equipped with aluminium horse irons </quote> |
| 20:47.47 | Fisker | pokemon Thunder_Child |
| 20:47.52 | Fisker | oh btw |
| 20:47.59 | Fisker | Cairenn is actually a missingno |
| 20:48.11 | Dagmar | Maldivia: Yeah, so? |
| 20:48.27 | Dagmar | Maldivia: Let's say you want to step on someone |
| 20:48.33 | Dagmar | I'll leave it at that |
| 20:49.33 | Dagmar | C'mon guys you play a video game where at least *ONE* very common model has hooves and a whip |
| 20:50.45 | zenzelezz | for a while when I took the bus to work, on Tuesdays there'd be a girl wearing full riding gear, helmet, whip and all, taking the same bus. Was remarkably sexy o_O |
| 20:52.11 | Dagmar | "<redacted> what's up with the fins and metal" |
| 20:52.51 | Dagmar | That stuff's usually pretty tight fitting as well |
| 20:53.19 | Lunessa | And riding gear was the province of rich, and often unobtainable women. I'm just sayinfg. |
| 20:53.38 | Cairenn | lost her carriage whip :( |
| 20:54.23 | Lunessa | We shall have to remedy this. |
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| 20:55.26 | durcyn | http://wonder-tonic.com/geocitiesizer/index.php heh. |
| 20:56.25 | Dagmar | Not "unobtainable" |
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| 20:56.38 | Dagmar | Frequently rather obtainable, acutally |
| 20:57.05 | kd3 | smirks thinking of girlfriends past |
| 20:57.51 | olafski | from that name alone I like it already durcyn :) |
| 20:57.57 | Maldivia | kd3: in regards to the boots? |
| 20:58.13 | kd3 | and the rest of the horse-riding gear comments |
| 21:01.31 | olafski | durcyn: it's like they copied my layouts from 1996! |
| 21:01.35 | olafski | and I even was 13 in that year |
| 21:02.39 | Lunessa | http://icanhascheezburger.com/upcoming/?pid=93664 |
| 21:03.44 | Dagmar | Yuck. EQ |
| 21:06.40 | Cairenn | a_small_rat_001 |
| 21:06.56 | Dagmar | Dirty cheater! |
| 21:06.59 | alestane | Isn't there supposed to be a message or something if you get vote-kicked, or is "You have been removed from teh group" all you see. |
| 21:10.15 | kd3 | the message is shown to the rest of the group in the vote-kick popup |
| 21:10.38 | kd3 | "Do you want to kick <luser> from the group? Reason provided: <Insert reason here> Yes/No" |
| 21:11.05 | alestane | Because we died on the last pull in HHoR, Jaina got mobbed, a moment later I was back at the rise of suffering being informed that I had been removed from the group. |
| 21:11.46 | kd3 | ouch |
| 21:12.15 | alestane | Never a word to me, I never died, I never pulled wrong, just BAM! We don't like your DPS, or something. |
| 21:12.27 | Dagmar | Well, it's HHoR |
| 21:12.49 | Dagmar | Plenty of things there to make people into elitist pricks |
| 21:13.04 | alestane | Took us three tries to get a tank, too. |
| 21:13.05 | Dagmar | You half can't queue for the damn thing until you've outgeared it anyway |
| 21:13.31 | Lunessa | That place "if you're not a god, I don't want you." People are such douches to each other there. |
| 21:13.54 | alestane | Group formed, we all got teleported in, tank dropped, we requeued, got another tank, he dropped, one of the DPS dropped, then finally we got a group that stayed together until that last pull. |
| 21:14.03 | alestane | And I was doing close to 3K DPS too. |
| 21:14.11 | Dagmar | I'm just still astonished to see people with a hair under 5k GS saying they can't queue for it |
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| 21:15.04 | alestane | Which was, I admit, the lowest of the three DPS in the group, but hardly pathetic for not being in raid gear. |
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| 21:15.56 | Lunessa | I've had people drop the group when I was doing that place as a priest because I didn't stand in the stupid place they were all standing. |
| 21:16.29 | alestane | I've done HHoR with far less geared groups than this one and had fewer problems. |
| 21:17.08 | Dagmar | Well, be glad you're free of htem thne |
| 21:17.16 | alestane | Is it normal in there to intercept the ghouls and undead as far back from Jaina as possible? |
| 21:17.28 | Dagmar | As far *back*? |
| 21:17.55 | alestane | Most of my groups have fought much closer to her. I kept getting up to the wall and then having to turn around and run back like sixty yards to get within reach of teh tank and his fodder. |
| 21:18.13 | alestane | I think he was charging them as soon as they spawned. |
| 21:18.24 | alestane | Never seen a tank do that before. |
| 21:18.34 | alestane | Meant the Lick King came up on us awful fast too. |
| 21:20.01 | Lunessa | Yeah, the tank was "doing it wrong." |
| 21:20.02 | Dagmar | You kinda want to |
| 21:20.20 | Dagmar | From what I can tell Jaina doesn't get done until all the swarm are killed. |
| 21:20.22 | alestane | I mean, you don't fight right on top of her, but you don't fight all the way down the hall, either. |
| 21:20.40 | Dagmar | Unless you get proactive about killing those undead, Jaina will *also* take her bloody time |
| 21:21.18 | alestane | Don't usually need to, they'll jump right up to you. |
| 21:21.21 | Dagmar | We generally just split the difference, although on the last two we grab those little guys as quick as we possibly can |
| 21:22.09 | Dagmar | THey are in no hurry to get to you on the last couple of rounds. |
| 21:22.21 | Dagmar | It blows time to wait for them to wander up to you |
| 21:22.36 | Dagmar | Usually I just drop some fire traps while we run so they'll set them off and hurry the hell up |
| 21:22.57 | alestane | Not sure running back into the Lick King's teeth to grab them faster makes any more sense. |
| 21:23.07 | Dagmar | Hence, aoe trap |
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| 21:23.14 | alestane | No hunters this time. |
| 21:23.24 | Dagmar | It's not too hard to keep the right margin of distance from LK |
| 21:23.34 | Dagmar | Got any engineers? You could try an exploding bunny |
| 21:23.46 | alestane | Also, the DPS warrior died on the penultimate pull. |
| 21:23.52 | alestane | And the kicked ME. |
| 21:24.02 | alestane | they* |
| 21:24.04 | Dagmar | Clearly, you weren't healing well enough. |
| 21:24.16 | alestane | Clearly not, I'm a warlock. |
| 21:24.22 | Dagmar | Exactly. |
| 21:25.36 | alestane | Clearly the guy just started voting to kick people. |
| 21:26.00 | alestane | I was wondering if maybe letting Jaina die "cancelled" the instance, but no one seems to think so. |
| 21:26.18 | Dagmar | nah you'll still be saved from the first two bosses |
| 21:26.25 | Dagmar | It'll only reset Jaina |
| 21:26.55 | Dagmar | ...although, if you ignore Jaina and just haul ass past her and don't stop, sometimes you can make it to the landing. :) |
| 21:27.01 | alestane | So yeah, they decided that everyone else wouldn't have been fucking up all the time if only I'd done another 300 DPS. |
| 21:27.16 | Gintaro | use flasks! |
| 21:27.18 | Gintaro | :P |
| 21:28.07 | alestane | Later all. |
| 21:33.40 | Lunessa | Wuv, twue wuv: http://tfl.nu/laza |
| 21:39.21 | Fisker | like i did your mom last night |
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| 21:52.27 | Cidwel | hiya |
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| 21:56.32 | Cidwel | is there a way to set a shading color to a button only when it is disabled? I used <color> in xml, but I cannot get the method in lua |
| 21:57.58 | foxlit | There is a way. |
| 21:58.11 | `-FISKER_Q | autobots? |
| 21:59.07 | Lunessa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg9qnWg9kak - transforming apartment. |
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| 22:02.15 | Cidwel | cool |
| 22:04.22 | foxlit | probably something like GetDisabledTexture SetVertexColor |
| 22:05.22 | Arathros | nice flat |
| 22:05.45 | Arathros | and now blizzard is pissing me off ;P |
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| 22:16.28 | Kraps | hey look! chocolate is a comfort food! http://www.ottawacitizen.com/health/Depressed+must+like+chocolate/2956663/story.html |
| 22:16.38 | Kraps | NO SHIT SHERLOCK |
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| 22:20.45 | Lunessa | Kraps: Mmmm... serotonin |
| 22:25.09 | Arathros | lol comfort food. thats old newz. |
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| 22:29.34 | Kraps | i wouldnt mind if Cata heroics are as hard as BC heroics. i never got the chance to do them pre-wrath because i didnt know how to upgrade my gear |
| 22:30.07 | Maldivia | weee http://www.tvfanatic.com/2010/04/presenting-the-first-true-blood-mini-episode/ :) |
| 22:31.03 | Kraps | Maldivia: is it a good show? |
| 22:31.49 | Maldivia | if you ask me, then yeah :) |
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| 22:34.02 | Lonny`1 | I have this code http://lonny.pastey.net/135790 I want it to handle moonkin form and prowl, as well as vehicles how should I add it ? I know I need to modify the condition, I want it to work just like the BonusActionBarFrame .. |
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| 22:43.53 | Kraps | no random bgs for non-80s :( |
| 22:44.29 | kd3 | damn it, cracked egg |
| 22:44.32 | kd3 | gimme the damn mount |
| 22:44.43 | cbreak | chances: 0.001 |
| 22:46.15 | Lonny`1 | I've created a method to return the conditions per class, is there a better way to do it ? |
| 22:47.02 | cbreak | table |
| 22:47.14 | Fisker | slaps kd3 around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:47.16 | Fisker | kd3 |
| 22:47.20 | Fisker | i got the damn mount |
| 22:48.10 | kd3 | grr, snowballs. gimme the other damn mount |
| 22:48.35 | Fisker | kd3 |
| 22:48.39 | Fisker | i got that damn mount too |
| 22:48.45 | kd3 | die, fisk-fisk |
| 22:48.54 | Lonny` | Yeah I already created a table filled with some rules to create the condition dynamically for the RegisterStateDriver, is there a better way to do it ? |
| 22:51.13 | A-KO | I would say there might be a 'different' way to do it, but better is relatively subjective unless you've made some glaringly obvious mistakes :P |
| 22:51.51 | Lonny` | Hmm yeah you're right, a different way :) |
| 22:52.14 | Fisker | btw kd3 |
| 22:52.20 | Fisker | can you scroll up and see what IP i had earlier? |
| 22:52.23 | Fisker | 69. or something like that |
| 22:52.25 | Fisker | not 62.61... |
| 22:52.58 | A-KO | 69.39.238.36 |
| 22:53.18 | durcyn | gonna get packeted, Fisker |
| 22:53.56 | A-KO | ping -t -l 1000 69.39.238.36 |
| 22:53.59 | A-KO | walks away :P |
| 22:54.06 | Fisker | well good luck with that A-KO |
| 22:54.09 | A-KO | kids, obviously (I'm not that retarded) |
| 22:54.28 | Fisker | it's not my IP either |
| 22:54.31 | A-KO | lol |
| 22:54.32 | A-KO | nice |
| 22:55.06 | A-KO | today I do something I've not done before |
| 22:55.13 | A-KO | I will write my own dll..... :P |
| 22:55.39 | Fisker | i dll u |
| 22:55.46 | A-KO | isn't really much of a programmer/developer, I only script stuff to make it happen when I need it...in this case, I'm trying to fix something the 'proper way' even though a 2 line batch file could fix it.... |
| 22:56.17 | A-KO | brain exercise, boredom--IT is too easy :( |
| 22:57.35 | A-KO | brb reboot |
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| 23:04.03 | Adys | http://googlepublicpolicy.blogspot.com/2010/04/47-trillion-reasons-for-well-designed.html |
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| 23:17.55 | Dagmar | Adys: The bloke from PsychoGraphics media is a tool |
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| 23:18.45 | Adys | likely |
| 23:18.53 | Dagmar | Sounds like he's pissy because his remixes don't make him any ad dollars because they get attributed to the actual rights-holders automatically |
| 23:23.04 | Dagmar | This bit tho http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/lj-pseudocut/o-response-1.html is very, very good stuff |
| 23:25.21 | Lonny` | I know I can map the bars however I want, but is there a way to know how Blizzard map them ? a list even.. |
| 23:25.53 | ZorbaTHut | man, how the hell can a DK tank fail to pick up healer aggro |
| 23:27.25 | Dagmar | ZorbaTHut: They've been disarmed? ...or they're running aroun in Unholy |
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| 23:28.06 | ZorbaTHut | neither one (i checked on the latter) |
| 23:28.10 | ZorbaTHut | they just weren't using any aoe at all |
| 23:28.24 | Dagmar | That'll do it |
| 23:30.07 | Shirik | How do people come up with this crap http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=358746839&oldid=358361803 |
| 23:30.21 | Dagmar | Ya think maybe they didn't get the memo about Blood Boil bring converted to a very indiscriminate AoE? |
| 23:30.30 | Dagmar | s/bring/being/; |
| 23:31.17 | Dagmar | Shirik: Ah the creativity of 13-year-old girls |
| 23:31.20 | ZorbaTHut | they actually used blood bol a few times, and howling blast a few times also, but no DnD |
| 23:31.31 | ZorbaTHut | and they kept hitting, like, the first few monsters with AoE |
| 23:31.39 | ZorbaTHut | then completely ignoring everything running past them |
| 23:32.06 | Dagmar | Jesus |
| 23:32.24 | Dagmar | I get mad when the group starts killing targets before I've got a good disease farm going |
| 23:33.06 | Dagmar | I figure if I'm good and everyone else has plenny of manna and we just pulled five, let's kill four and lemme drag that juicy judas mob over to the next pull |
| 23:33.20 | Dagmar | Saves a whole lotta time |
| 23:33.46 | Fisker | you Shirik |
| 23:33.48 | Fisker | you. |
| 23:33.52 | Shirik | me |
| 23:34.09 | Fisker | what about me? |
| 23:35.14 | Shirik | you didn't say you |
| 23:35.15 | Shirik | you said me |
| 23:35.50 | Dagmar | ZorbaTHut: I guess maybe his main is some kinda warrior who doesn't know how fast that AoE damage adds upo |
| 23:36.39 | Fisker | damn |
| 23:36.44 | Fisker | a lot of suing going on these days |
| 23:36.52 | ZorbaTHut | I'm guessing his main is the brand-new level 63 death knight. |
| 23:38.29 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 23:38.37 | Fisker | lets hope that activision gets f'd in the a? |
| 23:38.40 | Shirik | why :( |
| 23:38.54 | Fisker | for being the cancer that's killing gaming? |
| 23:41.33 | Fisker | btw we got a search warrant for your house Shirik |
| 23:41.44 | Fisker | because you're so mean to vandalize /b/ trade secrets |
| 23:41.52 | Gintaro | I reached 54k dps today! |
| 23:41.56 | Gintaro | On my rogue! |
| 23:42.07 | Fisker | low |
| 23:42.29 | Fisker | I'm looking forward to a billion dps on aoe as well in Cataclysm |
| 23:42.31 | Gintaro | you're low |
| 23:42.41 | Fisker | But paladin's can't have nice things so it's probably getting nerfed |
| 23:42.56 | Shirik | my apologies Fisker |
| 23:42.58 | Gintaro | paladins should just bubblehearth |
| 23:43.07 | Fisker | we won't be able to in cataclysm |
| 23:43.09 | Shirik | we are nearing the end of /b/'s reign |
| 23:46.00 | Fisker | i also wanted to sleep Shirik |
| 23:46.30 | Shirik | ok bye |
| 23:46.59 | Fisker | i can't sleep |
| 23:47.06 | Fisker | is impossible |
| 23:48.06 | Gintaro | well, insomnia is better then sexomnia |
| 23:52.43 | Dagmar | I respectfully disagree |
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| 23:54.16 | Cidwel | someone knows how to set a disable behaviour to a button (changing it's vertexColor) without having to set it manually everytime I disable the icon? |
