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| 00:11.49 | Wobin | I swear, the editors for NotAlwaysRight must love their jobs. It's like being able to write the worst puns into headlines without the limitation of public consumption =P |
| 00:12.00 | Lopeppeppy | Oh hi to you!! |
| 00:13.06 | Wobin | blinks. Hullo Lope =P |
| 00:13.20 | Lopeppeppy | These are my bouncy shoes, you like? |
| 00:14.01 | Wobin | peers. |
| 00:14.10 | Wobin | Are those springs inbuilt into the soles? |
| 00:17.41 | Lopeppeppy | Yuh-huh! Best gnomish pick-me-up gadget EV-AR! |
| 00:18.36 | Thunder_Child | "recycled a plan b box. kill a baby. save a tree." lol |
| 00:19.21 | Dagmar | Gnomish "heightening" is a good thing, really. |
| 00:19.36 | Dagmar | THat extra inch or two gets the angle just right to kick them for serious distance. |
| 00:23.08 | Jamash | please don't talk about kicking gnomes |
| 00:23.15 | Jamash | the proper term is "punting" |
| 00:27.44 | Dagmar | Got it. Punting. |
| 00:28.11 | Dagmar | I'm looking forward to getting the little blighters out of Ironforge |
| 00:30.26 | kd3 | ...hey |
| 00:31.35 | foxlit | I'm looking forward to a new tabard of the argent crusade. |
| 00:31.42 | Legorol | there won't be one |
| 00:31.49 | foxlit | Spoilsport. |
| 00:32.04 | Legorol | why would the AC get a new tabard? |
| 00:32.07 | Legorol | there are already two of them |
| 00:32.08 | foxlit | *argent dawn, though |
| 00:32.17 | Legorol | AD has a tabard too |
| 00:32.26 | foxlit | AD has many tabards. |
| 00:32.32 | foxlit | I believe that was my point :) |
| 00:32.54 | Legorol | yah but why would there be a new tabard suddnely? |
| 00:32.57 | Legorol | because of Cataclysm? |
| 00:33.08 | Legorol | they don't usually retrofit factions in an expansion |
| 00:33.16 | foxlit | There's been an argent dawn tabard involved into every expansion released so far :) |
| 00:33.31 | Legorol | i see |
| 00:34.36 | kd3 | [Tabard of the Protector] x2 |
| 00:34.37 | kd3 | <3 |
| 00:34.47 | kd3 | so ya, I expect another for cata |
| 00:36.01 | Amarande | foxlit: don't think there was one for BC? |
| 00:36.07 | Amarande | I thought the first one was for the release of original Naxx |
| 00:36.15 | kd3 | there was. the invasion at the dark portal |
| 00:36.22 | kd3 | it involved killing a few "invaders" and getting a tabard |
| 00:36.43 | Amarande | okay, does this item still drop or am I delusional |
| 00:36.53 | kd3 | no. it was a time-limited event |
| 00:36.57 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/Tabard_of_the_Protector |
| 00:36.59 | Amarande | kd3: no not the tabard |
| 00:37.04 | Amarande | the damn arcanite dragonling schematic |
| 00:37.05 | Amarande | heh |
| 00:37.14 | Amarande | I've been killing cobalts for over an *hour* |
| 00:37.18 | Amarande | seen 3 of the BoP tailoring pattern |
| 00:37.29 | Amarande | the other day I found 3 of the greater arcane protection pot recipe |
| 00:37.34 | Amarande | STILL NO ARCANITE DRAGONLING |
| 00:43.13 | Fisker | i wanted to sleep kd3 |
| 00:43.17 | Fisker | and maybe also you foxlit |
| 01:02.10 | kd3 | YES! |
| 01:02.18 | kd3 | Mr. Pinchy's Magical Crawdad Box |
| 01:05.04 | Lopeppeppy | Yaaaay!!!! |
| 01:06.56 | batrick | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC73PHdQX04 |
| 01:07.01 | Dagmar | Looks like today *was* the day aftera ll |
| 01:07.04 | Dagmar | Congrats |
| 01:09.14 | Dagmar | No, just these fucking home router appliances that keep getting abused by script kiddies |
| 01:09.17 | Dagmar | wrong chan |
| 01:09.27 | kd3 | well, what else is new? |
| 01:09.34 | kd3 | default password 'linksys'? |
| 01:10.30 | Dagmar | "admin" actually |
| 01:10.39 | Dagmar | I've snuffed six in the last month and a half |
| 01:11.13 | Dagmar | The d-link I hit earlier didn't have much of anything useful from the inside |
| 01:11.26 | Dagmar | I had to go to the bloody web interface on it to disable remote administration |
| 01:11.48 | Dagmar | ...but at least it wasn't infected with dhpot like the DD-WRT boxes are |
| 01:12.28 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:12.53 | kd3 | wasn't there a worm that did that to melissa? |
| 01:12.57 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:13.10 | Dagmar | There's been counter-worms before, but they're usually short-lived. |
| 01:13.33 | Lopeppeppy | The worms, they ticked my toes. It drove me crazy. |
| 01:13.36 | Dagmar | The dhpot thing has been around for a few years now. I've not had the inclination to capture it and see if it's reporting somewhere |
| 01:15.25 | Wobin | counter counter counter worms? |
| 01:15.42 | Dagmar | That would be part of why counter-worms generally don't work |
| 01:16.03 | Dagmar | It's too hard to tell on the face of it whether you're looking at a worm, or something designed like an antibody. |
| 01:19.18 | Dagmar | Plus there's the whole "Who wants to be the next Robert Morris" thing |
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| 01:44.36 | ScytheBlade1 | lol @ tag on /. story |
| 01:45.10 | ScytheBlade1 | "achoo" on the "EyeDriver Lets Driver Steer Car With Their Eyes" |
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| 01:49.04 | Borgleader | so quiet for a channel with so many ppl in it O.o |
| 01:49.20 | Cide | your mom |
| 01:49.45 | ScytheBlade1 | it comes and goes |
| 01:50.03 | Mr_Rabies | i'll have to cide with side on this one |
| 01:50.04 | kd3 | wait til patch day. we're a lot more noisy |
| 01:50.08 | Mr_Rabies | ;p |
| 01:50.18 | ScytheBlade1 | course, SC2 release will be a dead day |
| 01:50.27 | Lopeppeppy | It's friday night, everyone is raiding! |
| 01:50.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Or playing in the SC2 map editor |
| 01:50.52 | ScytheBlade1 | -.- |
| 01:50.57 | Amarande | actually, I'm about to get started on the starter line for my DK, and then level her professions |
| 01:51.06 | Amarande | AND HOPEFULLY THE BLOODY ARCANITE DRAGONLING WILL DROP THIS TIME |
| 01:53.50 | Corrodias | what you need is arcanite reaper |
| 01:54.16 | kd3 | hooooo! |
| 01:54.25 | Amarande | Corrodias: that drops in LBRS, right? |
| 01:54.27 | Amarande | or is that UBRS? |
| 01:54.33 | Amarande | somewhere in that damned spire, anyway |
| 01:54.34 | Corrodias | i dunno, i don't think i ever knew |
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| 01:55.03 | Amarande | anyway, I massacred the Cobalt dragonkin long enough to get 30g+ just from looting alone |
| 01:55.49 | Amarande | and even found the mooncloth bag and radiant leggings patterns |
| 01:55.49 | Amarande | and THREE of the BoP winter night robe tailoring pattern |
| 01:55.49 | Amarande | and STILL no arcanite dragonling |
| 01:55.49 | Amarande | does that even still drop, or did they take it off the mageweavers' loot table when they made it part of the "Underground" wormhole thing? |
| 01:55.55 | Amarande | or is random loot just random :| |
| 01:55.57 | kd3 | oh gods. I hated that area |
| 01:58.57 | Cide | msvc crash gogo |
| 01:59.19 | Cide | happens way too often :/ |
| 01:59.33 | batrick | 22/0 in HoN is so satisfying |
| 01:59.41 | Cide | what hero? |
| 01:59.44 | batrick | andro |
| 01:59.48 | batrick | http://www.batbytes.com/smashT.jpg |
| 01:59.56 | batrick | is glowing |
| 02:00.07 | Cide | nice ophelia build |
| 02:00.13 | Cide | straight for hellflower |
| 02:00.43 | batrick | ya she was easy to rape |
| 02:00.45 | batrick | no boots lol |
| 02:00.52 | Cide | and plague rider went barrier idol vs what is more or less only physical damage |
| 02:01.27 | Cide | F for effort |
| 02:04.09 | Shirik | FFFort |
| 02:04.18 | Cide | ^ |
| 02:11.39 | DWSR | Where's the best place to mine Titanium? |
| 02:12.08 | Cide | sholazar |
| 02:12.29 | Cide | is where I've had most luckj |
| 02:12.30 | Cide | luck |
| 02:12.39 | Borgleader | according to wowhead comments, wintergrasp is best |
| 02:12.55 | Cide | start far east middle of the map, (1, 0) in trig terms |
| 02:13.30 | Cide | follow the edge south, circle the pillars you pass by, until you've circled the second pillar |
| 02:14.10 | DWSR | Hrm;. |
| 02:14.15 | Cide | and then head north until the third pillar and then back to (1, 0) |
| 02:14.16 | DWSR | Most luck I've had is in Icecrown. |
| 02:14.20 | Cide | after circling the third pillar |
| 02:14.23 | Cide | icecrown has more nodes |
| 02:14.27 | Cide | but it's very camped |
| 02:16.21 | Amarande | yeah, you can mine in sholazar if people will LET you |
| 02:16.32 | Amarande | earlier I go to grab a node and this guy appears out of NOWHERE JUST as I'm about to mine |
| 02:16.40 | Amarande | like, while I'm landing my bronze drake at the node :P |
| 02:16.45 | Amarande | at least he was horde |
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| 02:23.32 | DWSR | Amarande: I'm on a PvP server. Horde never make it away from nodes with their ore alive. |
| 02:34.36 | Amarande | DWSR: I'm Horde. Therefore, at least it goes to enrich OUR side instead of the stinking Ally |
| 02:40.59 | Arrowmaster | Amarande: if he appeared out of nowhere it was probably a teleport hacker |
| 02:41.15 | Amarande | Arrow: or maybe display lag |
| 02:41.22 | Borgleader | Couldnt he have just "logged in"? |
| 02:41.27 | Amarande | I don't have my visibility distance set anywhere near max since several annoying experiences in icecrown |
| 02:41.45 | Arrowmaster | Amarande: true |
| 02:41.46 | Amarande | although OTOH, my visibility distance not being set near max has caused at least one *other* annoying experience |
| 02:41.48 | DWSR | meh. |
| 02:42.33 | Cide | aww Shirik, where are you? |
| 02:42.35 | Amarande | the trouble with icecrown with large max visibility distances |
| 02:42.47 | Amarande | is that you get horrible lag whenever you're facing either Dalaran OR the argent tournament grounds |
| 02:43.01 | Amarande | which of course tends to be about 90% of the time when you're actually on a flying mount in icecrown |
| 02:43.18 | Amarande | in fact, I think that lag was actually worse than dalalag itself |
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| 03:09.27 | GhostfromTexas | sup |
| 03:10.23 | DWSR | I don't believe in ghosts. |
| 03:10.28 | GhostfromTexas | cries |
| 03:10.33 | Iriel | I dont believe in Texas |
| 03:11.43 | GhostfromTexas | was wondering if anyone wanted to develop an addon with me. I am a dev for auctioneer, but the addon I am wanting to create, however relatively small and simple, deals with stuff I haven't touched at all yet |
| 03:11.56 | GhostfromTexas | basically it's a mass deposit/withdrawl item addon for your bank and stuff |
| 03:12.14 | GhostfromTexas | wanting a basic function of "shift+alt+click" an item to deposit or withdrawl all of em |
| 03:12.19 | DWSR | Like "take all of the uncommon gems from my bank"? |
| 03:12.33 | GhostfromTexas | well.. this would be more specific item name |
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| 03:13.35 | GhostfromTexas | been looking at functions to help achieve this, and I know Outfitter has a basic function like this as well, but I looked at their code, which is insanely complex and they have like 15 different functions they designed that handle small lil chunks of it |
| 03:14.14 | GhostfromTexas | was quite confusing |
| 03:15.23 | Gnarfoz | look at BankStack, probably |
| 03:16.32 | GhostfromTexas | hmm ok will check it out, was looking at the description |
| 03:16.34 | Amarande | wtf, this EJ thread is taking me for a loop |
| 03:16.42 | Amarande | frost DPS DKs are *supposed* to stand in fire regularly? |
| 03:16.46 | DWSR | Yes. |
| 03:16.48 | DWSR | AMS. |
| 03:16.53 | DWSR | All DKs are supposed to. |
| 03:17.00 | Amarande | But they taught us we shouldn't stand in fire! |
| 03:17.11 | DWSR | You shouldn't.\ |
| 03:17.30 | GhostfromTexas | oh btw.. have any of yall ever been interested in a mass auction cancel addon? |
| 03:17.30 | Gnarfoz | you should, so you burn, char, and die and delete your char |
| 03:17.31 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 03:17.45 | Amarande | GhostfromTexas: you mean like "withdraw all crafting recipes you can currently learn from my bank"? |
| 03:17.47 | Gnarfoz | GhostfromTexas: that already exists *shrug* |
| 03:18.07 | GhostfromTexas | Gnarfoz, i looked for one for about a week or so before i created Cancelator |
| 03:18.10 | Gnarfoz | laziest case, you could do it in a macro anyway |
| 03:18.17 | Amarande | I'm still wishing, also, that grey-sale addons had an option to "treat soulbound items I can't use as grey" |
| 03:18.17 | GhostfromTexas | well mine does a few filters |
| 03:18.34 | GhostfromTexas | you can cancel a specific item.. a specific duration.. a specific item at a specific duration with no bidders |
| 03:18.37 | GhostfromTexas | or any combination |
| 03:18.47 | Gnarfoz | QuickAuctions can "filter" based on auction duration remaining, price and item groups (defined in QA itself, used for posting) |
| 03:19.22 | GhostfromTexas | Amarande, more like "Shift+Alt+Click on Saronite bar, and move all saronite bar from bags to bank, or from bank to bags, depending on where it was clicked" |
| 03:24.55 | Amarande | hmm, am I also gathering that 2H Frost DPS is a discredited build now? |
| 03:25.04 | DWSR | yes |
| 03:25.24 | DWSR | 2h frost tanking is still ok thouh |
| 03:25.26 | DWSR | thoguh |
| 03:25.28 | DWSR | though* |
| 03:25.53 | Thunder_Child | i need my pew pew juice |
| 03:26.25 | Amarande | I dunno |
| 03:26.37 | Amarande | I'm always skeptical of DW DPS builds, except on rogues for which it's the only way to fly |
| 03:26.52 | DWSR | You're fucking stupid. |
| 03:26.53 | DWSR | :) |
| 03:27.06 | Amarande | mainly I keep thinking that the massive extra hit rating you need must certainly take away stat budget that could otherwise be devoted to increased pewpew output |
| 03:27.25 | Corrodias | well, that's not very nice |
| 03:27.42 | Amarande | after all, I'm quite aware that when you DW, your melee hit drops like a stone |
| 03:28.04 | Amarande | a primary reason I hate it when my hunter gets stuck in melee, for instance. |
| 03:28.46 | Amarande | (if it wasn't for that, I wouldn't care if I pulled aggro off the pet when soloing, because with the amount of Agi and AP I stack, it's not nearly as cream-puffy as it might otherwise be) |
| 03:29.03 | DWSR | Amarande: I'll say it again. |
| 03:29.05 | DWSR | You are fucking stupid. |
| 03:29.12 | DWSR | When you realize why, you'll understand. |
| 03:29.20 | Amarande | DWSR: you're saying you *don't* need an extra 16% worth of hit rating when DWing? |
| 03:29.25 | DWSR | Correct. |
| 03:29.34 | DWSR | DW DPS is balanced around having 8% hit rating. |
| 03:29.36 | Amarande | But I thought hit capping was generally considered part and parcel of DPS. |
| 03:29.40 | DWSR | No. |
| 03:29.41 | Thunder_Child | "[...]Google has put down its hammer and announced "we are no longer investigating further engineering improvements."" i lol @ Fisker |
| 03:29.47 | Amarande | Or have I played casters too long? |
| 03:29.48 | Thunder_Child | @ the nexus one |
| 03:29.57 | DWSR | You have played casters too long. It is important for casters. |
| 03:30.01 | DWSR | It's also important for 2h melee. |
| 03:30.07 | DWSR | For DW melee, you want to cap specials. |
| 03:30.08 | DWSR | That's it. |
| 03:30.16 | Amarande | What's the problem with 2H Frost DPS, btw? |
| 03:30.41 | Amarande | I'm trying to figure out -exactly what- the overwhelming benefit of DWing is |
| 03:31.10 | Amarande | it's been a while since I played a DK at all, and when I did, it was 2H Frost DPS back when 2H Frost DPS was considered viable |
| 03:31.29 | GhostfromTexas | well apparently from what i am seeing with outfitter and bankstack that moving items from bags to bank or bank to bags is not simple haha |
| 03:32.40 | DWSR | Amarande: It's not that it's not viable, it's that it doesn't fulfill the max part of minmax. |
| 03:34.27 | Arrowmaster | GhostfromTexas: why would you ever think it would be simple? |
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| 03:35.00 | GhostfromTexas | hell the mass auction cancel thing I made was simple haha |
| 03:35.11 | Arrowmaster | Thunder_Child: wheres that from? |
| 03:35.50 | Arrowmaster | auction canceling is just going through a list of 1..n and canceling them |
| 03:35.58 | Arrowmaster | i could do that in a macro |
| 03:36.00 | GhostfromTexas | exactly :P |
| 03:36.07 | GhostfromTexas | well mine has filters and stuff setup to do it |
| 03:36.28 | GhostfromTexas | combination of filters could be set, etc |
| 03:37.23 | GhostfromTexas | no direct API functions apparently to help take care of it |
| 03:38.10 | Amarande | DWSR: how bad of a DPS hit does one suffer with it? |
| 03:38.15 | GhostfromTexas | i mean there are functions like "PutItemInBag" and stuff, but |
| 03:38.19 | Adys | how does the guid 0x4100000253DDA478 contain the id 3985? |
| 03:38.23 | GhostfromTexas | seems to be one sided |
| 03:38.30 | Amarande | as bad as that hybrid arcane/frost mage build I thought up once and then discarded when I noted that Rawr was saying it gave only about 3300 DPS with BEST GEAR? |
| 03:38.33 | Adys | subbing -12, -7 equals 595 |
| 03:39.19 | Amarande | although that may be in part because frost seems to be thought of as the black sheep in raiding now |
| 03:39.23 | Mikk | Amarande: Rawr needs to be able to guess what rotation you had in mind too. It might have guessed wrong. |
| 03:39.26 | Arrowmaster | lua> tonumber(("0x4100000253DDA478"):sub(-12,-7), 16) |
| 03:39.27 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: 595 |
| 03:39.48 | Amarande | does frost (mage) actually do sucky DPS or are northrend bosses actually somewhat ice resistant? |
| 03:39.49 | Mikk | Amarande: unless of course you can tell it a prio list of spells - i don't know the mage module well enough |
| 03:40.00 | Amarande | I know fire used to suck in classic raiding simply because so much shit was immune in MC |
| 03:40.09 | Mikk | it's not an immunity issue afaik |
| 03:40.10 | Adys | Arrowmaster: it also fails my guid type check |
| 03:40.27 | Adys | if tonumber(guid:sub(3, 5), 16) == 1024 then |
| 03:40.28 | Adys | npcType = "item" |
| 03:40.32 | Arrowmaster | Adys: yeah no clue what 0x410 is |
| 03:40.40 | Adys | its an item |
| 03:40.43 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/3985/monogrammed-sash/ |
| 03:41.13 | Arrowmaster | how did you get the 3985? |
| 03:41.18 | Arrowmaster | and how did you get the guid? |
| 03:41.28 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: http://gizmodo.com/5521919/nexus-one-3g-bugs-no-longer-of-interest-to-google |
| 03:41.29 | Adys | UnitGUID("npc") when starting the quest |
| 03:41.40 | Arrowmaster | Adys: wtf? |
| 03:41.41 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 03:42.03 | Adys | i need to make sure the quest is started by a npc or object |
| 03:42.06 | Adys | and not an item |
| 03:42.16 | OhGrimes | go canucks go :-] |
| 03:42.21 | Amarande | bah, I was hoping not to have to DW to properly play a DK DPS |
| 03:42.24 | Amarande | however |
| 03:42.28 | Amarande | unholy is pet dependent, apparently |
| 03:42.37 | *** part/#wowuidev GhostfromTexas (GFt@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Developer/GhostFromTexas) |
| 03:42.41 | Amarande | and I already have a pet class at 80 and am currently leveling *another* pet class |
| 03:42.45 | DWSR | Blood. |
| 03:42.47 | DWSR | kthx. |
| 03:42.47 | Amarande | do I really want a third pet built character. |
| 03:42.51 | Adys | Thunder_Child: nice biased article as usual |
| 03:42.53 | Adys | While we are continuing to monitor user feedback regarding the 3G performance on the Nexus One, we are no longer investigating further engineering improvements at this time. |
| 03:42.55 | Amarande | DWSR: blood DPS is going away for cata though, not sure I want to get used to it now |
| 03:43.00 | Adys | how does that say "LOL NO BUGFIX" |
| 03:43.17 | Shirik | Adys |
| 03:43.22 | Shirik | hi |
| 03:43.24 | Amarande | in cata they're apparently making DKs like the other tanky classes |
| 03:43.28 | Thunder_Child | Adys: i didnt write the damn article |
| 03:43.28 | Amarande | you have one tank spec and the other ones are for DPS |
| 03:43.30 | Adys | Shirik, help me with my guid issues |
| 03:43.39 | Shirik | ? |
| 03:43.47 | Adys | "0x4100000253DDA478" |
| 03:43.50 | Adys | fails my guid checks |
| 03:43.56 | Shirik | porquoi? |
| 03:44.26 | Adys | Shirik: http://www.pastey.net/135647 |
| 03:44.36 | Arrowmaster | Adys: whats UnitName("npc") say? |
| 03:44.51 | Adys | Arrowmaster: Monogrammed Sash |
| 03:45.03 | Adys | Shirik: id should be 3985 and type should be item |
| 03:45.03 | Arrowmaster | i find this ammusing |
| 03:45.07 | Adys | it fails both |
| 03:45.54 | Arrowmaster | i didnt even know that you could get the guid of an item |
| 03:45.58 | Shirik | lua> tonumber("4100000253DDA478", 16) |
| 03:45.58 | lua_bot | Shirik: 4294967295 |
| 03:46.00 | Shirik | fail |
| 03:46.04 | Shirik | adys |
| 03:46.07 | Shirik | are you sure it's not just too big? |
| 03:46.08 | Adys | wat |
| 03:46.11 | Adys | er |
| 03:46.19 | Adys | you need to sub it first |
| 03:46.19 | Shirik | oh you took out piece by piece |
| 03:46.38 | Arrowmaster | Adys: dont talk to failrik about this, he has never messed with guids |
| 03:46.42 | Shirik | wtf |
| 03:46.43 | Shirik | yes I have |
| 03:46.57 | Arrowmaster | when? |
| 03:46.59 | Adys | Shirik: {{sofixit}} |
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| 03:47.19 | Shirik | in my addons? o.o |
| 03:47.27 | Shirik | my DKP tracking addon relies on GUIDs to work |
| 03:47.33 | Shirik | Adys |
| 03:47.36 | Shirik | how the hell do you know that |
| 03:47.45 | Adys | know what? |
| 03:47.49 | Shirik | (23:46:42) (Adys) Shirik: {{sofixit}} |
| 03:47.58 | DWSR | Shirik: trollwat? |
| 03:48.00 | Adys | you know I do edit wikipedia right |
| 03:48.06 | Shirik | you do? |
| 03:48.17 | Shirik | you seem like someone who would vandalize it |
| 03:48.52 | Adys | i stay the fuck away from it as much as possible |
| 03:49.05 | Shirik | aw that's boring |
| 03:49.13 | Shirik | hey hey hey |
| 03:49.13 | Shirik | look |
| 03:49.14 | Adys | now |
| 03:49.16 | Adys | fix my shit |
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| 03:49.22 | Adys | Shadowed is supposed to |
| 03:49.26 | Adys | BUT SHADOWED ISNT HERE |
| 03:49.28 | Shirik | ~wiki Special:Log/Shirik |
| 03:49.36 | Shirik | rofl |
| 03:49.39 | Adys | ~failrik |
| 03:49.40 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 03:49.51 | Shirik | anyway, I have exactly 499 filter modifications! |
| 03:51.00 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: http://gizmodo.com/5521841/pinhole-camera-the-size-of-a-thumbnail-actually-takes-photos |
| 03:51.17 | Shirik | photos? |
| 03:51.19 | Shirik | as in more than one? |
| 03:51.31 | Thunder_Child | *shrug* |
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| 03:53.10 | Thunder_Child | someone fix Mikk |
| 03:53.46 | Mikk | huhu vacuuming my keyboard on the lock screen made my computer standby |
| 03:54.04 | Mikk | my keyboard doesnt have a standby key |
| 03:54.07 | Mikk | boggles |
| 03:54.56 | Shirik | that's quite epic |
| 03:55.29 | Amarande | aright, DW frost it is, I guess |
| 03:56.01 | Amarande | are there any 1H melee weapons that DKs aren't allowed to use? |
| 03:56.26 | Amarande | or do they get access to all melee? |
| 03:56.40 | Mikk | unsure about daggers |
| 03:57.14 | Mikk | "Daggers are trainable by all classes except Paladins and Death Knights. ..." |
| 03:57.45 | ZorbaTHut | in fairness it would be pretty silly-looking for a DK to use a dagger |
| 03:57.47 | Amarande | and no fist weapons, either. |
| 03:57.58 | Amarande | Zorba: of course, if you're a female blood elf, effing SHADOWMOURNE looks like a dagger :) |
| 03:58.11 | Amarande | (did I mention my DK is exactly that. heh) |
| 03:58.18 | ZorbaTHut | yeah but you're playing a female blood elf so what do you care ;) |
| 03:58.19 | Jamash | I have a caster "dagger" that's like three feet long |
| 03:59.12 | Amarande | hmm, now to see what I have access to on my blacksmith so I can send Vladoka a pair of serviceable DW weapons as soon as she leaves the starter zone |
| 03:59.23 | Shirik | wow |
| 03:59.25 | Shirik | http://h-net.msu.edu/cgi-bin/logbrowse.pl?trx=vx&list=EDTECH&month=1004&week=a&msg=oh60TKAnthvEwBjcWNxxSg&user=&pw= |
| 03:59.26 | Amarande | axes: dark iron destroyer ... um, how about no |
| 03:59.34 | Arrowmaster | i would link my armory profile and say you cant top the original azuresong mageblade but my armory page doesnt work anymore |
| 03:59.50 | Amarande | one, my BS is 62, which is one level too high to queue BRD so I'd have to beg a guildie to run me again |
| 03:59.56 | Amarande | two, that's twenty-four lava cores for a pair |
| 04:00.00 | Arrowmaster | Amarande: i dont think you want to DW until max level |
| 04:00.00 | Jamash | Shirik: bitter, much? |
| 04:00.14 | Amarande | Arrow: I'm pretty sure it's okay once you get ToT |
| 04:00.25 | Arrowmaster | whats that? |
| 04:00.30 | Amarande | thread ot thassarian |
| 04:00.35 | Arrowmaster | whats that? |
| 04:00.37 | Amarande | the whole reason DW frost is viable to begin with |
| 04:00.44 | Amarande | it's the talent that makes your strikes use the offhand weapon also |
| 04:00.52 | Amarande | otherwise, DW would be laughably bad |
| 04:01.17 | Amarande | anyway ... two dark iron destroyers also needs 24 lava cores. I need tons of lava cores if I can get my hands on them, but I'm NOT using them to craft with |
| 04:01.21 | Arrowmaster | well i was going to say that until you get max level you probably dont have enough +hit |
| 04:01.24 | Amarande | I need those for ThoBro rep, dammit |
| 04:01.51 | Jamash | you have a sickness |
| 04:02.03 | Jamash | I say this as someone who is revered with thorium brotherhood |
| 04:02.20 | Jamash | not effing worth it |
| 04:02.48 | Amarande | Jamash: I already made it to Honored, I get the feeling I should go the distance if I've gone that far :S |
| 04:03.00 | Jamash | get out while you still can! |
| 04:03.04 | Jamash | it's not too late! |
| 04:03.15 | Amarande | hmm, yeah, hit might be an issue |
| 04:03.36 | Amarande | especially since the only weapon I can actually craft of a reasonable level to be considering at 58 on a DK that HAS +hit is the enchanted battlehammer |
| 04:03.46 | Amarande | ... which is 2H, anyway |
| 04:03.57 | Amarande | otoh, you need less hit at lower levels |
| 04:04.39 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: terrible troll is terrible, "The clearest instances I found (I did not |
| 04:04.41 | Arrowmaster | want to look for long) are linked from ..." he couldnt even find the fucking album cover that got all of wikipedia blocked by a country? |
| 04:05.07 | Corrodias | scorpions? |
| 04:05.10 | Jamash | actually I'm only honored with TB |
| 04:05.14 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 04:05.20 | Jamash | and that was hell |
| 04:05.20 | Shirik | lmao, I just found my favorite easter egg of Halo |
| 04:05.33 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: which halo? |
| 04:05.37 | Shirik | at least 3 |
| 04:05.48 | Arrowmaster | which easter egg? |
| 04:05.53 | Shirik | Go to 1:05 and look in the top right corner: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZMvziMCkmA&playnext_from=TL&videos=N6AQ8UTqZ9E&feature=sub |
| 04:06.17 | Amarande | hmm |
| 04:06.23 | Amarande | what I'm gathering about my BS capabilities is |
| 04:06.35 | Amarande | the only 1H weapon I can see it being viable to make 2 of for a fresh DK is Dawn's Edge |
| 04:06.48 | Amarande | now, this means ... I can have a 50-55 or so DPS 2H |
| 04:07.01 | Amarande | or I can have about 72 DPS worth between the two 1H weapons, but with the hit loss of DWing |
| 04:07.05 | Amarande | not sure which is better :S |
| 04:07.59 | Amarande | part of me is thinking I should get used to DWing from the get go :S |
| 04:08.53 | Amarande | actually I can have 85 DPS total between the two 1H weapons, IF I made the dark irons |
| 04:09.02 | Amarande | but like I said, if I'm going to get that many lava cores I'd rather use them to get revered with TB |
| 04:09.13 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: If you flip yourself upside down (not in a vehicle or anything), the game goes "Press (B) to flip... wait... what? How the hell did you do that?" |
| 04:09.33 | Jamash | "Death knights choosing to dual wield have an additional penalty of 19% (16% with talent) to hit with both weapons, but this only affects auto-attack damage. Special attacks such as Blood Strike have the normal 8% cap." |
| 04:10.04 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: no that was message because they flipped that big vehicle i cant remember the name of over |
| 04:10.11 | Shirik | no he's not in teh vehicle |
| 04:10.15 | Shirik | oh |
| 04:10.18 | Shirik | ohhh |
| 04:10.19 | Shirik | I get it now |
| 04:10.22 | Shirik | still that's awesome |
| 04:10.23 | Jamash | so hit shouldn't matter as much as it would if specials had the extra miss |
| 04:10.24 | Arrowmaster | ~failrik |
| 04:10.25 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 04:10.27 | Shirik | STILL AWESOME |
| 04:10.39 | Arrowmaster | you totally deserve that ~failrik |
| 04:11.15 | Amarande | Jamash: also, *some* of that additional penalty could be usefully negated at 80, anyway |
| 04:11.29 | Amarande | because I seem to recall that some DK attacks are considered spells, and thus benefit from up to 17% hit |
| 04:12.54 | Amarande | soo ... start DWing ASAP or wait till 80? |
| 04:14.03 | Jamash | do it now imo |
| 04:14.58 | Amarande | two dawn's edge it is, then, I guess :) |
| 04:15.09 | Amarande | wait is that unique equipped |
| 04:15.11 | Amarande | wow, no, it's not |
| 04:15.22 | Amarande | that's one thing I hate about the expansions' BS weapons |
| 04:15.38 | Amarande | an ever increasing number of them become Unique-Equipped as you level up, and there's usually only ONE that's really any good for your build |
| 04:16.06 | Amarande | forcing you to raid (since epic weapons do not occur in badge gear IIRC) to have a decent weapon (which you need to do the DPS you need to raid with ITFP now) |
| 04:16.20 | Amarande | old world BS weapons were nice like that :) |
| 04:16.41 | Amarande | now to remember if the mats for enchanted thorium are different between enchanting and mining |
| 04:18.02 | Amarande | ah good, they're not |
| 04:18.16 | Jamash | got an 80 on that server? you could get an heirloom weapon if so |
| 04:18.51 | Amarande | yeah, but I don't have nearly enough tokens |
| 04:18.59 | Amarande | besides, can you dual wield heirlooms? |
| 04:19.06 | Amarande | (not to mention that in and of itself is an insane number of tokens) |
| 04:19.25 | Jamash | they aren't unique or unique-equipped, so I guess |
| 04:19.59 | Taroven | Dual wielded the heirloom daggers on my rogue, so yes. |
| 04:20.55 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: ep27 of that halo fails series is great |
| 04:21.02 | Shirik | it is |
| 04:23.34 | Amarande | Jamash: you can't runeforge heirlooms, though |
| 04:23.40 | Jamash | doh |
| 04:23.45 | Jamash | didn't think about that |
| 04:23.48 | Amarande | guess I'm going with 2x Dawn's Edge |
| 04:23.51 | Jamash | that's stupid |
| 04:24.00 | Jamash | not being able to runeforge, I mean |
| 04:24.19 | Jamash | well I guess then you'd be able to trade them... meh |
| 04:24.38 | Amarande | not that it would work, since Enchantment Requires Runeforging |
| 04:24.47 | Amarande | but runeforging I believe is treated as a binding enchant |
| 04:24.54 | Amarande | it's the same reason the ranged heirloom weapons suck |
| 04:25.08 | Jamash | can't put scopes on 'em? |
| 04:25.13 | Amarande | can't put scopes on 'em |
| 04:25.16 | Amarande | not just for one but TWO reasons heh |
| 04:25.32 | Amarande | not only are scopes binding enchants now, but they also all require ilvl of 5 at the least for the very crappiest one |
| 04:25.40 | Jamash | doh |
| 04:27.29 | eidolarr | I think the reason you can't do it isn't that it binds, as much as that the enchant has to work on a level 1 weapon |
| 04:30.17 | Amarande | I love the fact that I'm making Dawn's Edges to actually use, though |
| 04:30.25 | Amarande | it makes all that trouble to go to LBRS ACTUALLY WORTH IT |
| 04:30.48 | Amarande | that's the pattern you get -from- the quest that takes you to the troll hunter boss :) |
| 04:34.27 | Amarande | aright, DK startup time :) |
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| 05:12.37 | ZorbaTHut | amarande, you sure you can't put scopes on heirlooms? I thought they fixed that for scopes specificially |
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| 05:16.00 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/5521301/google-store-view-is-coming |
| 05:18.20 | Thunder_Child | http://www.newmoney.gov/newmoney/Splashpage.aspx |
| 05:21.03 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: http://gizmodo.com/5521104/fisheye-tin-camera-mounts-to-canon-dslr-for-180-photos |
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| 05:23.05 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: Quality kinda sucks, but epic nonetheless |
| 05:23.46 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: what do you expect for $20 |
| 05:23.58 | Shirik | :P |
| 05:25.05 | Shirik | I expect a $2500 lens for $20 |
| 05:25.36 | Shirik | batrick |
| 05:25.37 | Shirik | chess |
| 05:25.39 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: your controller is disconnected |
| 05:25.44 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: Um |
| 05:25.49 | Shirik | I didn't even know my xbox was still on |
| 05:26.28 | Arrowmaster | "Your Xbox 360 Controller is disconnected." |
| 05:26.52 | Shirik | well it's always disconnected |
| 05:26.55 | Shirik | technically |
| 05:27.09 | Arrowmaster | its telling me that your controller is disconnected though |
| 05:27.12 | Arrowmaster | thats the funny part |
| 05:27.24 | Shirik | why is it telling you this o.o; |
| 05:27.30 | Arrowmaster | i dont know |
| 05:27.35 | Shirik | ?? |
| 05:27.48 | Shirik | it's just telling you because it feels like it? |
| 05:28.02 | Arrowmaster | its flashing "Your Xbox 360 Controller is disconnected." |
| 05:28.03 | Thunder_Child | because you are not listening to it and Arrowmaster is |
| 05:28.06 | Shirik | that is wierd o.o; |
| 05:28.13 | Shirik | are you in my party? |
| 05:28.16 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 05:28.18 | Shirik | how |
| 05:28.19 | Shirik | the hell |
| 05:28.22 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 05:28.37 | Shirik | am I still at the multiplayer screen or something |
| 05:28.42 | Arrowmaster | ywa |
| 05:28.44 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 05:28.55 | Arrowmaster | where is your 360? another room or something? |
| 05:29.09 | Shirik | no I'm just watching TV |
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| 05:30.34 | Shirik | haha I drag you into a match |
| 05:30.40 | Shirik | now you get to see how bad I really am |
| 05:30.43 | Shirik | crap my headset is dying |
| 05:31.01 | Arrowmaster | whats the map type? |
| 05:31.06 | Adys | lua> (1 and "yes" or "no") |
| 05:31.07 | lua_bot | Adys: yes |
| 05:31.08 | Shirik | slayer |
| 05:31.12 | Arrowmaster | ranked? |
| 05:31.15 | Shirik | yes |
| 05:31.34 | Jamash | lua > (0 and "yes" or "no") |
| 05:31.40 | Jamash | fail |
| 05:31.45 | Jamash | lua> (0 and "yes" or "no") |
| 05:31.45 | lua_bot | Jamash: yes |
| 05:32.06 | Adys | wow |
| 05:32.17 | Adys | i just typed "/console gxrestart && /reloadui" |
| 05:32.28 | Jamash | nice |
| 05:32.35 | Shirik | where the hell is everyone... |
| 05:32.39 | Corrodias | and what happened? |
| 05:32.43 | Adys | im right here honey |
| 05:32.56 | Adys | Corrodias: gxrestarted but didnt reload :( |
| 05:33.01 | Shirik | I think our rank disparity is messing with the potential matches |
| 05:33.11 | Shirik | I'll fix that |
| 05:33.22 | Adys | matches Shirik |
| 05:33.46 | Arrowmaster | social..... |
| 05:33.48 | Adys | lua> ("Fisker"):match("Shirik") |
| 05:33.48 | lua_bot | Adys: nil |
| 05:33.52 | Adys | shouldve known) |
| 05:33.58 | Shirik | should I go back to ranked? |
| 05:34.04 | Arrowmaster | i dont care |
| 05:34.05 | Shirik | we seemed to be having trouble finding a match |
| 05:34.15 | robotusch | doing arenas? |
| 05:34.18 | Shirik | I thought this might be better but it doesn't look like it, lol |
| 05:34.29 | Shirik | robotusch: halo arenas |
| 05:34.32 | robotusch | :| |
| 05:34.46 | Arrowmaster | everybody is playing living dead i bet |
| 05:34.48 | robotusch | was gonna mention our winrar 5v5 team otherwise :p |
| 05:34.58 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: Halo reach, May 3! |
| 05:35.05 | robotusch | I think we started out at like 1500 match ranking, so we had our asses handed to us |
| 05:35.22 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: grifball next weeked too |
| 05:35.30 | robotusch | otoh, double disc priest, arcane mage, prot & fury warr might not be the optimal setup |
| 05:35.37 | Shirik | I am so sick of boundless |
| 05:35.40 | Adys | Shirik: do you love me :( |
| 05:35.43 | Shirik | no |
| 05:35.47 | Adys | ah ok |
| 05:36.28 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: fyi i have never played team, always ffa, and i havent played in 3 years |
| 05:36.29 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: Fair warning, I have been sucking more than usual today |
| 05:36.33 | Shirik | ok good |
| 05:36.35 | Shirik | we're about the same then |
| 05:36.37 | Jamash | that's what she said |
| 05:37.03 | Thunder_Child | but it was never directed at you Jamash |
| 05:37.13 | Jamash | oh snap |
| 05:37.49 | Jamash | in other news I am building a giant robotic emperor mengsk with laser vision |
| 05:39.33 | Adys | This is interesting |
| 05:39.58 | Adys | The game can send since wotlk a packet that forces a npc to be looted |
| 05:40.02 | Adys | despawning the npc in the process |
| 05:40.09 | Adys | used in some quests |
| 05:40.42 | Adys | for the past 5 minutes I've been thinking "There is NO way they aren't doing some sanity checks first" |
| 05:40.52 | robotusch | yeah, there's one in the beginning of the Drakuru questline in ZD |
| 05:40.59 | Adys | theres a bunch |
| 05:41.45 | DWSR | Adys: I'm sure that there's some very specific server side checks. |
| 05:42.02 | Adys | you're assuming that |
| 05:42.13 | Adys | I'm tempted to check |
| 05:42.28 | Adys | because knowing blizz that could just not be the case |
| 05:42.46 | DWSR | Adys: If you didn't check, you wouldn't be Adys. |
| 05:42.56 | DWSR | So, you'll check. QED |
| 05:43.56 | Adys | is it really worth fixing my script just to check something that is probably correct |
| 05:44.02 | DWSR | yes. |
| 05:44.05 | Adys | risking a ban in the process |
| 05:44.09 | DWSR | yes. |
| 05:44.19 | Adys | then you wont mind if i check this on your account? |
| 05:45.02 | Jamash | step 1. register free trial |
| 05:45.35 | Adys | trial account streams dont work the same way |
| 05:45.38 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: you suck |
| 05:45.40 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: That went about as well as I expected it to |
| 05:45.43 | Shirik | I told you |
| 05:45.52 | Shirik | today is just awful |
| 05:46.01 | Adys | i think its because they're supposed to receive a lot more data |
| 05:46.03 | Arrowmaster | i atleast got 10 more kills than you |
| 05:46.08 | Shirik | Yeah you also died another 8 times |
| 05:46.14 | Shirik | I was -6 you were -4 |
| 05:46.48 | Arrowmaster | i got 6 medals though |
| 05:46.51 | Shirik | this'll probably be my last game of the night |
| 05:46.58 | Shirik | I refuse to continue playing with this kind of streak |
| 05:49.56 | Adys | come on dirkee, spawn =( |
| 05:51.09 | Amarande | omg. |
| 05:51.19 | Amarande | you know that DK starter quest where you beat on the guys with the persuader swords till they talk? |
| 05:51.23 | Amarande | this time, the guy talked on the *first hit* |
| 05:51.30 | DWSR | Lucky you? |
| 05:51.34 | DWSR | Welcome to RNG |
| 05:51.44 | Amarande | Now if it would just cough up the arcanite dragonling schematic for my hunter |
| 05:55.26 | Nechckn | Ended up buying the schematic after trying for a few days, Amarande. It only took a few weeks before one was available. =) |
| 05:56.48 | Shirik | bleh |
| 05:57.21 | Shirik | fun times Arrowmaster |
| 05:57.23 | Shirik | maybe on a good day |
| 05:57.43 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: you told me to watch that vid of yours, watch the one i sent to you |
| 05:57.49 | Shirik | where did you send it? |
| 05:58.02 | Arrowmaster | check messages |
| 05:58.03 | Shirik | xbox message? |
| 05:58.08 | Arrowmaster | yeah i think |
| 05:58.10 | Shirik | now I have to turn on my xbox again >.> |
| 05:58.23 | Arrowmaster | watch it in 3rd person so you can see the beauty of the first kill |
| 05:58.56 | Arrowmaster | it is truely fucking epic |
| 05:59.24 | Shirik | I don't really get it though |
| 05:59.28 | Shirik | construct is one of my best maps |
| 06:01.55 | Shirik | omg clips take forever to load on xbox |
| 06:02.04 | Arrowmaster | no i think thats me |
| 06:02.08 | Arrowmaster | i snuck in again |
| 06:02.14 | Shirik | oh |
| 06:02.17 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 06:02.35 | Shirik | not used to people just randomly entering my parties lol |
| 06:03.00 | Arrowmaster | default is friends are allowed to pop in whenever they want |
| 06:03.09 | Shirik | I'm going to watch an episode of voyager it might be done loading by the time the episode is finished |
| 06:03.29 | Arrowmaster | ill dashboard |
| 06:03.35 | Arrowmaster | maybe that will make it load for you |
| 06:04.27 | Arrowmaster | did it? |
| 06:05.45 | Shirik | yes, and I must say that was quite epic |
| 06:06.02 | Shirik | I think it was a little unnecessary, mind you |
| 06:06.04 | Shirik | but epic |
| 06:06.25 | Arrowmaster | that was during the first halloween special playlist |
| 06:06.29 | Adys | Shirik |
| 06:06.31 | Arrowmaster | all i was allowed to use was the hammer |
| 06:06.39 | Shirik | you can assassinate |
| 06:06.48 | Shirik | and that doesn't mean sneaking up on them with a hammer |
| 06:06.53 | Adys | Assuming something happens 8 out of 10 times, what's the probability it would happen 14 times in a row? |
| 06:07.11 | Adys | about 1/11 right? |
| 06:07.13 | Shirik | lua> (8/10)^14 |
| 06:07.14 | lua_bot | Shirik: 0.04398046511104 |
| 06:07.18 | Shirik | not even close |
| 06:07.33 | Adys | er |
| 06:07.37 | Adys | that doesnt look right |
| 06:07.43 | Adys | probability should be high |
| 06:08.03 | Shirik | there's a 20% chance of failure |
| 06:08.10 | Adys | Yeah |
| 06:08.13 | Shirik | you're asking to not fail 14 times in a row |
| 06:08.23 | Shirik | 5% looks reasonable to me |
| 06:08.26 | Shirik | (and I promise it's right) |
| 06:08.34 | Adys | oh thats 5% |
| 06:08.37 | Adys | i thought it was .5% |
| 06:08.50 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: theyve changed the ruleset since then, back then zombies had hammer and camo, humans had a normal gun and a spartan laser, all you could do was attack then keep attacking or run like fuck since you would be visable |
| 06:09.07 | Shirik | I thought you could melee too |
| 06:09.28 | Arrowmaster | it would still make you somewhat visable |
| 06:09.32 | Shirik | in any case I accept your awesomeness |
| 06:09.57 | Arrowmaster | yeah i dont know why but i swear i got 3 people with that first swing but it only said double kill |
| 06:10.48 | Amarande | okay, this quest is IMPOSSIBLE now! |
| 06:10.51 | Shirik | eh? I only saw 2 |
| 06:10.54 | Amarande | Valroth kills me every time |
| 06:11.00 | Arrowmaster | i should take one of the other videos in my file share and put some benny hill music to it |
| 06:11.07 | Shirik | lol |
| 06:11.14 | Arrowmaster | they are funny clips |
| 06:11.20 | Shirik | oh shit |
| 06:11.25 | Amarande | is there some sort of very specific strategic trick that you need there? even standing in the shell doesn't help, since he stands outside and you can't get at him without exposing yourself |
| 06:11.34 | Amarande | AND YOU KEEP FUCKING CLICKING ON THE GOOD GUY WHENEVER YOU TRY TO TARGET HIM |
| 06:11.35 | Shirik | I should start looking through my recordings for things I fucked up |
| 06:11.44 | Shirik | I could probably put together an entire halo fails episode of myself |
| 06:11.44 | Amarande | since he takes up like half your field of vision |
| 06:13.19 | Amarande | was this quest designed to be intended to be grouped, which could only be done effectively when DKs were still new? |
| 06:13.20 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: the other 2 clips in my file share are me trying to help a friend in the single player, he kept getting lost as fuck on cortanna so i tried to do a speed run of it, with all the skulls enabled |
| 06:13.30 | Shirik | lol |
| 06:13.48 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: if i had recording of his voice during it, it would be truely epic |
| 06:13.56 | Shirik | haha |
| 06:14.08 | Arrowmaster | i had to turn off blind and iron though |
| 06:14.34 | Arrowmaster | so then i ended up litterally dragging him through the level as i kept running to checkpoints and getting him teleported |
| 06:15.21 | Arrowmaster | i wasnt killing anything either, just meleeing to get my sheilds back |
| 06:15.34 | Arrowmaster | as i ran |
| 06:17.30 | DWSR | SLASO runs are fucking rediculous |
| 06:18.08 | Arrowmaster | this was a CEASO |
| 06:18.44 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: Awesome |
| 06:18.47 | Amarande | AND YOU CAN'T EVEN GET A GUILDIE TO HELP YOU WITH THIS BECAUSE IT'S IN THE DK STARTER AREA |
| 06:18.57 | Amarande | have I no choice but to wait until I can be on during peak hours and hope someone starts a DK? |
| 06:19.04 | Amarande | I'm always too weak after the acolytes and then Valroth RAPES me |
| 06:19.13 | Arrowmaster | i think i also even grabbed the skull for him as i was running though the place |
| 06:19.20 | DWSR | Archarodim: co-op easy all skulls on? |
| 06:19.24 | DWSR | Arrowmaster^ |
| 06:19.26 | Amarande | oh, and they apparently made it so clicking on the fucking bubble makes you target the friendly |
| 06:19.31 | Amarande | the whole bubble is considered him |
| 06:19.42 | Arrowmaster | DWSR: yes |
| 06:19.55 | Amarande | how the hell do you kill Valroth? |
| 06:19.59 | Amarande | or do you have to respec blood? |
| 06:20.07 | Arrowmaster | Amarande: who? |
| 06:21.35 | Arrowmaster | when i made my DK i killed other DKs in the starting zone by specing blood |
| 06:22.04 | DWSR | Amarande: Valroth? |
| 06:22.27 | DWSR | You mean the guy in the basement when you're rescuing Koltira? |
| 06:22.29 | Amarande | Yeah. |
| 06:22.37 | DWSR | Stay in the AMS. |
| 06:22.42 | DWSR | err AMZ |
| 06:22.46 | Amarande | I fear the post-3.0 nerfs may have made this quest almost impossible unless you spec blood for Rune Tap |
| 06:22.46 | DWSR | Otherwise he rips you aparty. |
| 06:22.48 | DWSR | apart* |
| 06:22.54 | DWSR | Nah, it's easy. |
| 06:22.55 | Amarande | I only have about half my HP after the Acolytes anyway |
| 06:23.00 | Amarande | and then I get raped because I can't outlast him |
| 06:23.12 | DWSR | You should be in the AMZ the whole time. |
| 06:23.22 | DWSR | And you should be spamming out Mind Freeze and Strangulate on CD. |
| 06:23.26 | DWSR | Otherwise, it's ezmode. |
| 06:24.35 | Amarande | the main thing is getting into melee, though :| |
| 06:24.44 | Amarande | he seems to lately stand far enough outside, and seems to be immune to DG |
| 06:25.06 | Amarande | at least, it always claims I'm too far even though the DG icon is lit |
| 06:25.31 | Amarande | seems like you basically have to leave the AMZ in order to even attack him with anything other than IT and DC |
| 06:25.39 | Amarande | and *those* don't kill him fast enough to not die first |
| 06:26.41 | DWSR | You /are/ in Blood Presence, right? |
| 06:30.56 | Amarande | Yeah. |
| 06:31.05 | Amarande | He finally went down the THIRD time, and I really start to think I just got lucky. |
| 06:31.45 | Amarande | And they really need to fix the Koltira bubble targeting crappitude, too |
| 06:31.55 | Amarande | It can be really hard to properly target mobs in that area because |
| 06:32.03 | Amarande | 1) the area is very small limiting your ability to zoom out severely |
| 06:32.12 | Amarande | 2) they consider the BUBBLE to not be a normal bubble, but part of Koltira himself |
| 06:32.25 | DWSR | tab motherfucker. |
| 06:32.27 | DWSR | Do you have it? |
| 06:32.30 | Amarande | so it's way easy to end up clicking on the bubble and lose precious time when you need to nab the enemy |
| 06:32.34 | Shirik | hey hey |
| 06:32.45 | Shirik | I will not tolerate such movie references in this channel |
| 06:32.52 | Shirik | only science fiction is allowed |
| 06:33.06 | Amarande | eh, the bubble being treated as part of the friendly like that is a design flaw at best and an outright bug at worst |
| 06:33.32 | DWSR | Amarande: Tab motherfucker. Do you have it? |
| 06:37.21 | Amarande | Yeah. Don't tend to use it often though. |
| 06:38.08 | DWSR | You should clean the rust off. |
| 06:38.16 | DWSR | It's how I tank, how I deeps, and how I PvP. |
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| 07:02.17 | tem | Amarande, if you fail at that quest you should delete your DK immediately |
| 07:02.41 | tem | in fact, if you die at all in the starter zone, you should probably consider suicide |
| 07:03.07 | tem | that or contact guinness |
| 07:03.14 | tem | since you possess a world record level of failure. |
| 07:10.18 | Arrowmaster | tem: i died in the starting zone |
| 07:10.35 | Arrowmaster | killed myself on patchwerk with hysteria |
| 07:11.08 | Arrowmaster | then i killed other people on the final quest with hysteria |
| 07:11.48 | Arrowmaster | i wonder if theyve fixed that |
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| 07:38.03 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/i_can_has_cheezburger_cat.jpg |
| 07:43.34 | Amarande | yay, one more DK has entered the world of Turalyon |
| 07:43.53 | Amarande | tem: actually, a surprising number of people have difficulty with the Valroth quest |
| 07:44.19 | Amarande | probably because it allows very little margin of error, whereas the other DK quests are dirt easy |
| 07:44.40 | Amarande | and especially if it's not your first DK, you're probably looking to plow through the quests as quickly as you can and thus impatience plays a role :| |
| 07:45.49 | Amarande | and then you get an acid lesson in the fact that your talents don't quite work the same way as they did back in 3.0 when you probably started your first DK. :) |
| 07:46.05 | Amarande | (indeed, I do recall Valroth to have been a good bit easier back in 3.0) |
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| 07:54.18 | Lothaer | did WoWInterface just go BOOM? |
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| 07:59.28 | zenzelezz | Lothaer: loads for me |
| 08:00.52 | Lothaer | its been fixed since :D |
| 08:01.33 | Cairenn | the datacenter is having some issues |
| 08:02.00 | zenzelezz | this game looks interesting... http://failblog.org/2010/04/23/screen-shot-win/ |
| 08:02.00 | mikma | revenge of cairenn |
| 08:02.22 | Cairenn | ! |
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| 08:05.13 | mikma | http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/129162375800153533.jpg |
| 08:06.50 | zenzelezz | http://www.lamebook.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/sexysnap1.png - those two seem a little conflicting |
| 08:09.16 | zenzelezz | I wonder what on earth is going on in Infinity Ward to make so many people leave; the atmosphere (now) must be pretty bad |
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| 08:16.37 | zenzelezz | '"Just imagine that you'll be watching it as if you were sitting beside the bed," Hong Kong-based producer Stephen Shiu Jr. said of his movie, "3D Zen and Sex," which is set to begin filming this month with a budget of nearly $4 million.' |
| 08:17.07 | zenzelezz | porn in 3D, I wonder if that will actually catch on when the technology (for viewing) becomes more common |
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| 08:44.50 | Fisker | hey zenzelezz |
| 08:45.17 | Fisker | ok imma fuck you up then |
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| 08:45.49 | zenzelezz | sorry, but sag_ich_nicht had the best troll of all time. OF ALL TIME. |
| 08:46.20 | Fisker | stop right there criminal scum |
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| 08:52.43 | Fisker | zenzelezz |
| 08:52.44 | Fisker | i am you |
| 08:53.04 | zenzelezz | then I am touching you right now |
| 08:54.02 | Fisker | http://notalwaysright.com/losing-track-of-your-mind/5148 <-ITS NOT POSSIBLE |
| 08:56.10 | Adys | kd3: |
| 08:56.10 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/f1088/ |
| 08:56.10 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/f1089/ |
| 08:56.13 | Adys | ocd \o/ |
| 08:56.33 | Fisker | i sneez'd |
| 08:57.15 | zenzelezz | Adys: so what are we looking at exactly? Did you find some additional info to parse, or just a clever method to separate the tribes? |
| 08:57.51 | Adys | I'm just parsing old logs |
| 08:58.07 | Adys | like half of it is manual tho |
| 08:58.25 | Fisker | i think that Blizzard might update their error graphics |
| 08:58.48 | zenzelezz | might or should? |
| 08:58.55 | Adys | error graphics? |
| 08:58.57 | Fisker | yeah |
| 08:58.59 | Fisker | should zenzelezz |
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| 08:59.53 | Adys | what error graphics? |
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| 09:00.22 | Adys | Fisker: what error graphics? |
| 09:00.29 | Fisker | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/59822c77bc2a2fc9f03323b766f3fec2.jpg <-this one |
| 09:00.43 | Adys | pro |
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| 09:11.21 | Thrae | Cairenn: *sigh* You're half cat. How do you stop a cat from using the bathroom as...a bathroom? |
| 09:11.43 | Arrowmaster | teach it to use the toilet |
| 09:11.43 | Cairenn | NOT bleach, contrary to what you might think |
| 09:12.28 | Thrae | Bleach the cat? I don't see any reason to do that... |
| 09:12.34 | Cairenn | :p |
| 09:12.56 | Cairenn | bleach the floor/counter/whatever - that's what most people would think to do |
| 09:13.18 | Cairenn | but there's something about ammonia that makes them want to cover up the smell of it with their own, or something like that |
| 09:13.20 | Cairenn | anyway |
| 09:13.36 | Thrae | I finally a) put the litterbox up in the hallway (which is right next to my room and the bathroom, two places he's used), and b) showed him where I put it (he didn't like that), and c) filled the bathttub he's been using with water |
| 09:13.55 | olafski | feed him in the bathroom |
| 09:14.02 | olafski | they don't like to pee where they eat |
| 09:14.17 | Fisker | olafski Thrae |
| 09:14.26 | Cairenn | best suggestion I can make is to put the litter box in the bathroom that they're being dirty in, make sure you keep it really really clean and as they get back into the habit of using the litter box, move it a bit at a time back to where you want it |
| 09:14.58 | Cairenn | male or female cat(s)? |
| 09:14.59 | Thrae | olafski: He's not peeing |
| 09:15.04 | olafski | pooping then :P |
| 09:15.30 | Cairenn | Thrae: male cat? |
| 09:16.06 | Thrae | Cairenn: Male, especially neurotic. About 50% of his day is cleaning and grooming himself to the point he eats off patches of his fur and bleeds. Unlike all my other cats which spend 80% of their day sleeping. |
| 09:16.19 | Cairenn | neutered? |
| 09:16.41 | Thrae | Cairenn: He used to be much, much worse when he first came to me. Yes, neutered, but he got Feline HIV/AIDs when another cat I cared for attacked him. |
| 09:17.02 | Cairenn | ugh, not good |
| 09:17.30 | Cairenn | anything happen lately to distress him? |
| 09:17.51 | Thrae | Cairenn: He *used* to be allowed outside but now I blocked up his only exit, so he's used to going wherever he wants. My other cat who also used to be able to go outside doesn't seem to care she's locked up, but she's abnormally normal. |
| 09:18.07 | Thrae | Cairenn: Yeah, he's seriously depressed and pissed he's not allowed outside. |
| 09:18.26 | Cairenn | so that change happened just recently? (not being allowed outside) |
| 09:18.27 | zenzelezz | was he used to being outside? |
| 09:18.30 | Thrae | Cairenn: I have a KittyWalk extension in the basement he uses and knows is there for him that lets him as far as the end of the patio. |
| 09:19.21 | Thrae | Cairenn: Yes, I finally figured out where he was getting out and blocked that. So I expected him to be in distress, but I didn't expect this. I've locked him in before and this hasn't happened. |
| 09:19.31 | Cairenn | either try moving the litter box in, or doing the food & water |
| 09:19.42 | Cairenn | the other thing is ... he might actually be sick |
| 09:19.45 | Thrae | Yeah like I said, the litterbox is now right next to the bathroom |
| 09:20.02 | Cairenn | if he was peeing, I'd say get him checked for a bladder infection |
| 09:20.07 | Cairenn | pooping, though, not sure |
| 09:20.23 | Thrae | I don't think so. His eating habits are the same and, aside from this behavior, he's behaving as he has for the past few years. |
| 09:20.33 | Thrae | Yes, I know, I had a cat that died from kidney failure. |
| 09:20.53 | Cairenn | not trying to suggest you're stupid sweetie, just trying to help figure it out :) |
| 09:21.44 | Cairenn | *when* does he do it? 24/7? or just nights? or ? |
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| 09:22.34 | Thrae | This is an especially neurotic cat -- before he got F-AIDS, he went through a period where he would pick one room in the house and live there. Going into the kitchen where he was fed there was like an invisible wall there, so he would only eat and run out. |
| 09:22.37 | Ash__ | Hello ;) |
| 09:22.49 | Cairenn | hi |
| 09:22.53 | Cairenn | Thrae: nod |
| 09:23.08 | Cairenn | sounds like he needs some kitty Valium ;) |
| 09:23.15 | Thrae | He wouldn't go in the basement to go to the bathroom so we had to bring that to him |
| 09:24.00 | Ash__ | uhm, I have a question but not exactly sure how to ask or where to look, i tried google and countless forums lol... just trying to learn how to make a pause in lua using GetTickCount(). Also I have almost 0 coding experience lol. |
| 09:24.01 | Thrae | Cairenn: Yeah he responds to catnip well, unlike my other cat who doesn't care for it, so I try to give him good doses of that with a cat scratcher. Unfortunately he got sick on it by eating the cardboard the cat scratcher is made of. |
| 09:24.14 | Cairenn | ugh |
| 09:25.19 | Cairenn | Thrae: what time(s) of day is he dirty? only at nights when you're asleep, or when you are out of the house, or ???? |
| 09:25.23 | Thrae | Ash__: You can use GetTickCount() or GetTime() to do a "pause" using an OnUpdate by just making a timer. Once the time runs out, your addon will do its thing. In WoW Lua you don't want to have a "heavy wait" (a loop that doesn't stop until time's up) as that'll freeze WoW. |
| 09:25.49 | Arrowmaster | Ash__: "learn how to make a pause in lua" you dont |
| 09:26.09 | Arrowmaster | what Thrae said |
| 09:26.13 | nevcairiel | why do people insist on making pauses |
| 09:26.21 | nevcairiel | its like the most common question asked |
| 09:26.43 | Cairenn | and very very strictly regulated by Blizz, since they don't like it at all |
| 09:26.44 | Fisker | i didn't kill my wife |
| 09:26.53 | Ash__ | oh i am not doing it for wow ;) |
| 09:27.06 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 09:27.14 | Ash__ | i was told to come here since the other game have same/similar |
| 09:27.21 | Cairenn | Warhammer? |
| 09:27.24 | nevcairiel | still dont make pauses |
| 09:27.26 | Arrowmaster | RoM? |
| 09:27.28 | Ash__ | RoM |
| 09:27.30 | Cairenn | ah |
| 09:27.36 | Thrae | nevcairiel: Because their knowledge level is probably around beginning to learn how to code in different languages, and that in that level pauses are very commonly taught, like in C/C++ or Java. |
| 09:27.47 | Arrowmaster | RoM is a carbon copy of WoW, same thing applies |
| 09:27.57 | nevcairiel | Thrae: sure, but you have s sleep function for that, and dont do busy waits |
| 09:28.19 | nevcairiel | s/ s / a / |
| 09:28.26 | Thrae | nevcairiel: That's not ANSI, which is usually what teachers start with ;) |
| 09:28.46 | nevcairiel | under no circumstance should you ever write a busy wait |
| 09:28.53 | Thrae | Sleep is in the OS libraries |
| 09:28.54 | nevcairiel | of course there are exceptions, but thats a good ground rule |
| 09:28.55 | nevcairiel | :p |
| 09:28.57 | Ash__ | Thrae do you know a good example i could look up that includes the GetTickCount() or GetTime() with OnUpdate() (which I have no clue what OnUpdate i have to trigger) so i can read up on it? |
| 09:29.34 | Ash__ | Arrowmaster: you CAN pause in lua.. read up Pause(), something I refuse to use ;P |
| 09:29.56 | Arrowmaster | Pause() maybe be something RoM added |
| 09:30.01 | Ash__ | no |
| 09:30.03 | Arrowmaster | but its not standard |
| 09:30.16 | Ash__ | its been out prior to RoM |
| 09:30.39 | nevcairiel | Thrae: at least its in the POSIX default headers, even if not in ANSI itself |
| 09:30.48 | Arrowmaster | trust me, there is no pause sleep or anything else in standard lua |
| 09:31.17 | Thrae | Ash__: You'll learn that all game engines have a main loop which does its code every "frame" or so. So whatever RoM allows you to do something every frame like OnUpdate in WoW allows you to do, such that RoM will keep calling a function in your addon every frame or so that you can time, making a time-r. |
| 09:31.49 | nevcairiel | Lua is single threaded,with nearly no OS integration short of the few functions in the os module, it doesnt have sleep, pause, yield, or whatever |
| 09:31.54 | Thrae | Ash__: In WoW this is OnUpdate, which is a scrtip attached to a Frame widget. |
| 09:32.09 | nevcairiel | RoM stole WoW 1.x Lua, it surely has the same |
| 09:32.34 | Thrae | s/scritp/script/ |
| 09:32.44 | Thrae | Or, whatecver. |
| 09:32.52 | Ash__ | Thrae oh boy, sounds like i near to learn about frame and OnUpdate just to use GetTickCount() / GetTime() |
| 09:32.57 | Thrae | The typos are strong in me this morning. |
| 09:33.16 | Ash__ | Thrae I do notice that some have math.floor codes, whats that all about? |
| 09:33.45 | nevcairiel | they do rounding |
| 09:33.46 | Thrae | Ash__: Yes. The Game Engine needs some way to defer to your addon to allow you to time stuff using GetTickCount() or GetTime(). |
| 09:34.42 | Thrae | Ash__: GetTickCount() in WoW Lua returns the milliseconds since the program started, GetTime() returns seconds. |
| 09:35.17 | Ash__ | Thrae can the triggerd by macro? example in macro would be "/run Funny()" or still has to be a UI object? |
| 09:36.08 | Thrae | s/returns seconds/returns seconds ala Unix time/ |
| 09:36.35 | Thrae | Ash__: If you make the same function you register as an OnUpdate script with your frame a global function, then you can /run it. |
| 09:36.55 | Ash__ | Arrowmaster /shrug i tried Pause() in RoM , very very bad idea lol. not only pauses the mod but also pauses the whole game AND uses up cpu 100% ... should read up on it. I am sure WoW has it too or other places |
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| 09:37.15 | Arrowmaster | wow does not |
| 09:37.20 | Thrae | Ash__: But that's not good coding. If you want to have a global function you can run via a macro AND use OnUpdate, make two functions -- one global, and one local you register to the OnUpdate script that calls the global. |
| 09:37.38 | Thrae | Ash__: Yes, that's called a Heavy Wait |
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| 09:38.22 | Arrowmaster | lua> while true do --[[ nothing! ]] end |
| 09:38.27 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: Your code exceeded set CPU limits |
| 09:38.38 | Ash__ | Thrae okay so stick to OnUpdate with frame.. got it... could you exlpain to me in lamers what exatly math.floor does? |
| 09:38.51 | nevcairiel | it rounds down |
| 09:38.58 | nevcairiel | 5.9 -> 5; 6.1 -> 6 |
| 09:38.59 | nevcairiel | etc |
| 09:39.00 | Thrae | Ash__: Do you know what the mathmatical terms "floor" and "ceiling" mean? |
| 09:39.45 | Ash__ | nev ah okay thanks.. Thrae not in terms but i got it now ;) |
| 09:40.22 | Thrae | Usually it's easier to work and show integers than floating precision. |
| 09:40.31 | nevcairiel | it just cuts off all decimals |
| 09:40.54 | Ash__ | Thrae or anyone.. uhm any suggestion where to look up for simple Frame creation and possible WITH OnUpdate()? |
| 09:41.19 | Thrae | Ash__: If it's the same as WoW Lua, then the syntax from Wowwiki for OnUpdate should work. |
| 09:41.59 | Ash__ | I am pretty sure it same.. except the "Pause()" apperantly lol |
| 09:42.34 | Thrae | Yes I think WoW Lua removed that a while ago if it ever had it |
| 09:44.24 | Arrowmaster | i dont think it ever did |
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| 09:45.18 | Fisker | you know what we should do Thrae ? |
| 09:45.55 | Ash__ | http://www.wowwiki.com/Using_OnUpdate_correctly this one has both frame and timer function? |
| 09:50.45 | zenzelezz | what do you mean it has a timer function? |
| 09:52.58 | Ash__ | sorry, uhm "counter"? since it takes lastupdate, interval , etc, figured its some sort of timer |
| 09:53.23 | Ash__ | unless its just 1 time action |
| 09:53.59 | zenzelezz | it's implementing timer-like functionality by keeping track of how long has elapsed, and resetting whenever the timer threshold is hit/exceeded |
| 09:54.14 | zenzelezz | but it's still just really an OnUpdate handler |
| 09:54.37 | Ash__ | Sorry I am just new to this and got this neat idea .. my goal is when I start the mod, my character says something, waits few seconds , says something else, waits few seconds, emote+chat, etc.. greating a comedy with 2 characters |
| 09:55.11 | Ash__ | ^creating |
| 09:56.30 | zenzelezz | see where it says "insert your OnUpdate code here"? |
| 09:56.39 | Ash__ | yes |
| 09:56.43 | Fisker | slaps zenzelezz around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:56.49 | zenzelezz | that's where you'd do whatever you want to do |
| 09:57.06 | zenzelezz | for your use you'd have to keep some sort of state variable to say what "stage" of the conversation you were at |
| 09:57.10 | Ash__ | but thats one action, what about the next action few seconds after the first action? |
| 09:59.56 | Ash__ | so i can't do ... action at XTimeLaps , action at YTimeLaps, action at ZTimeLaps? |
| 10:00.23 | zenzelezz | why don't you try it an see :) |
| 10:00.39 | zenzelezz | +d |
| 10:04.52 | Ash__ | sorry, just bit confusing , especially at the part that says "elapsed" is that where I enter the variable or is that what IT places, having difficulty figuring out where you define HOW much time to wait , since interval is once every second |
| 10:05.43 | zenzelezz | look at the code. Which variable is it comparing the elapsed time to? |
| 10:07.54 | Ash__ | OnUpdate |
| 10:07.57 | zenzelezz | no |
| 10:08.35 | zenzelezz | if (self.TimeSinceLastUpdate > MyAddon_UpdateInterval) then |
| 10:12.09 | Ash__ | think the whole thing is confusing me, MyAddon_UpdateInterval = 1.. if TimeSinceLastUpdate starts with 0, next interval is 1, one after is 2, 2 > 1 => action.. -> TimeSinceLastUpdate set to 0... doesn't explain what elapsed does |
| 10:12.51 | zenzelezz | you're starting to understand |
| 10:13.16 | zenzelezz | elapsed will usually be less than 1.0, unless you have awful framerate |
| 10:14.17 | zenzelezz | so TimeSinceLastUpdate would go perhaps 0 ... 0.025 ... 0.1 ... 0.5 ... 1.1 (but with many more steps in-between) |
| 10:15.06 | zenzelezz | and as you see, they reset the "TimeSinceLastInterval" variable to 0 when they reach the desired elapsed time. Then you could set MyAddon_UpdateInterval to however long you'd want to wait for the next "tick", etc |
| 10:15.11 | Ash__ | okay, back to my original question... how do i make it so that after certain time it does the action... oh wait... replace MyAddon_UpdateInterval in if (self.TimeSinceLastUpdate > MyAddon_UpdateInterval) then to variales that I want it to wait? |
| 10:16.03 | zenzelezz | have you done much coding before? |
| 10:16.16 | Ash__ | exp... if (self.TimeSinceLastUpdate > 6) then ? |
| 10:16.42 | Ash__ | Honestly, almost non, almost no experience in any coding, i just got lucky to fix one mod PlantCare |
| 10:17.43 | Ash__ | I learn as i do things, the most i got is just change a word here, a number there from exsisting mods |
| 10:19.43 | Ash__ | zenzelezz here i figured out the error from one of the mod designer and I changed it (near the bottom post) and I was asking for help to figure out something else. http://forum.us.runesofmagic.com/showthread.php?t=38971 |
| 10:20.11 | Ash__ | thats the best i got, for you all thats like walking in the park with eyes closed |
| 10:20.52 | zenzelezz | I think maybe you should try to start out with something simpler |
| 10:20.59 | zenzelezz | just get one timed event to work |
| 10:22.25 | Ash__ | hehe if i can get http://www.wowwiki.com/Using_OnUpdate_correctly to work the way I want it to ... i be one happy camper |
| 10:23.11 | zenzelezz | I already told you what you need to do; but since you didn't quite understand that, I think you need to stop trying to make the whole thing work at once, and start with one simple timed event |
| 10:23.19 | zenzelezz | then when you understand why that works, expand |
| 10:25.19 | Ash__ | just one tiny question |
| 10:25.48 | Ash__ | what is "self" mean in this case? |
| 10:26.14 | Ash__ | sorry, there goes my english.. what does "self" mean in this case? |
| 10:27.30 | zenzelezz | it's the frame which fired the event |
| 10:28.38 | Ash__ | okay thanks. |
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| 11:25.02 | harl | hi |
| 11:27.41 | zenzelezz | ohai |
| 11:29.15 | Maldivia | howdy |
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| 11:52.21 | Fisker | i will destroy you harl |
| 12:00.08 | Thrae | Any oUF coders? |
| 12:01.16 | Fisker | oh nos |
| 12:01.19 | Fisker | my account will closed |
| 12:01.20 | Fisker | :( |
| 12:01.46 | Fisker | but in order to not get my account will closed all i have to do is give them my account details |
| 12:01.50 | olafski | serves you right |
| 12:02.00 | Fisker | Because you know, that would prove to them that i did infact not do what they told me i did |
| 12:14.06 | olafski | ahh back at 1920x1200 :D |
| 12:18.21 | Fisker | i'm back at 1920x1200 |
| 12:21.40 | robo\afk | You're back in the USSR |
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| 12:38.19 | mikma | cairenn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bmhjf0rKe8 -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRVNVjFny-w |
| 12:38.32 | Cairenn | hehhehe |
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| 13:40.18 | nevcairiel | anyone have any experience with postfix user administration web-frontends and can recommend one? |
| 13:47.30 | Maldivia | only one I know is postfix.admin, but have no expeirence with it |
| 13:52.12 | Adys | ~wowiquotes |
| 13:52.13 | purl | http://www.teomyr.eu/wowuidev/irc-quotes |
| 13:58.11 | Maldivia | for anyone Dr Who fans: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dHkbdMYpSA |
| 13:59.33 | Fisker | no |
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| 14:13.27 | Adys | Maldivia: a dw fan vid that doesnt suck? :P |
| 14:13.28 | Adys | thats new |
| 14:13.34 | Adys | its nice tho |
| 14:14.35 | Maldivia | Adys: I found it really good, to be honest - and the choice of music was spot on :P |
| 14:14.40 | Adys | ya |
| 14:14.52 | Adys | just saying there are very few dw fanvids that don't suck |
| 14:14.58 | Adys | the queen bit was awesome :P |
| 14:15.16 | Maldivia | "I get knocked down, but I get up again", when ever Jack is shown :P |
| 14:15.32 | Adys | hehe |
| 14:15.40 | Maldivia | yeah - bohemian rhapsody was perfect for that |
| 14:16.14 | Adys | lady in red lol |
| 14:21.11 | Maldivia | did you notice the rick roll ? |
| 14:21.14 | Adys | ya |
| 14:21.20 | Adys | how can you NOT notice a rickroll |
| 14:21.26 | Maldivia | :) |
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| 14:44.35 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQNjCPUlVYg |
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| 16:32.15 | kd3 | whee; woken up by thunder boomers |
| 16:32.26 | Fisker | destroys kd3 |
| 16:33.03 | Fisker | http://catalog.xna.com/en-US/CatalogImage.aspx?imgId=b9abd771-0250-4b39-be95-7583e5eadd85&ds=1&ceType=2&imgType=6 <-guess what this game is about |
| 16:35.58 | Fisker | what do you say kd3 ? |
| 16:38.58 | airtonix | hi fisker, do by chance have 17years experience in a mental hospital ? |
| 16:41.05 | Gnarfoz | he lives in one, so... |
| 16:42.43 | airtonix | what about milking cows ? |
| 16:43.16 | Zyn | close |
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| 16:47.29 | Atriace | ~ping |
| 16:47.30 | purl | ~pong |
| 16:48.01 | Atriace | I'd heard Blizzard implemented a built-in alternative to LibStub. Can anyone confirm this? |
| 16:58.18 | Atriace | I think I found it in patch notes for 3.3.2, "local addonName, addonTable = ...;" |
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| 17:00.58 | nevcairiel | thats completly different |
| 17:01.01 | Iriel | Atriace: Ah, that, it's not really libstub tho |
| 17:01.11 | Iriel | It's just some useful addon metadata and addon private storage |
| 17:02.38 | Atriace | I've been out of code development for a while now, but as I recall, I'd been using LibStub only as a definitive table space. |
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| 17:05.37 | Atriace | Although this is a bit confusing. I thought ... was used to denote "and any other variables passed". i.e., foo(a, b, ...) |
| 17:06.20 | nevcairiel | you can think about files as being wrapped in a function call with ... as the parameter list, and it makes sense again :d |
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| 17:12.47 | Adys | Alright |
| 17:12.52 | Adys | I need betatesters on windows and linux |
| 17:13.10 | Gintaro | for? |
| 17:13.14 | Adys | for a data uploader and addon updater |
| 17:13.26 | Iriel | What happened to OSX? |
| 17:13.30 | Iriel | are we not good enough for you? |
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| 17:13.38 | Adys | I don't have osx binaries |
| 17:13.43 | nevcairiel | screw mac'ies, they are only trouble |
| 17:13.44 | Adys | unless you feel like compiling it |
| 17:13.47 | Iriel | That seems like a pretty big flaw 8-) |
| 17:14.12 | Adys | but on that note i do need someone to compile/distribute an osx binary if anyone feels like it |
| 17:14.16 | Iriel | Hm, I can happily run a compilation if you've got it scripted, though I'll confess I haven't done much local compilation |
| 17:14.27 | Adys | its a very small app and managed by cmake |
| 17:14.59 | airtonix | should've just made it in python |
| 17:15.11 | Adys | i would have |
| 17:15.25 | Adys | but those damn windows jerks lack any respect for python |
| 17:15.41 | awweaver | I will help test... |
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| 17:16.39 | airtonix | then make it with mono |
| 17:17.04 | Adys | Iriel: got git? |
| 17:17.46 | Iriel | Adys: Yes |
| 17:18.24 | awweaver | Adys, i will test the windows version... |
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| 17:20.37 | Adys_ | Iriel: got git? |
| 17:21.01 | Iriel | yes |
| 17:21.07 | Adys | clone git://github.com/Adys/sigrie-uploader.git |
| 17:21.23 | Adys | you need bzip2 and qt headers |
| 17:22.10 | awweaver | *growls at the sunlight that keeps comign through the blinds... |
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| 17:23.04 | Huggz_ | hi guys |
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| 17:23.17 | A-KO | bonjour |
| 17:23.22 | awweaver | Hola |
| 17:23.35 | Huggz_ | does anyone know if there is an IRC addon for WoW |
| 17:23.49 | awweaver | why would there be?... |
| 17:23.55 | awweaver | i suppose there could be |
| 17:24.08 | Huggz_ | it would be really useful |
| 17:24.16 | A-KO | there isn't any |
| 17:24.21 | Huggz_ | :( |
| 17:24.24 | awweaver | how would it be useful? |
| 17:24.28 | zenzelezz | no, there couldn't be |
| 17:24.30 | A-KO | you could, however, play it in a window. |
| 17:24.37 | Huggz_ | what about an addon to let you browse WoWwiki ingame |
| 17:24.38 | A-KO | plays on dual screen :P |
| 17:24.41 | A-KO | nope |
| 17:24.46 | Huggz_ | rrr |
| 17:24.48 | airtonix | lulz |
| 17:24.48 | A-KO | addons cannot communicate outside of the game |
| 17:24.50 | Atriace | There's no mod communication with the outside world. |
| 17:24.52 | awweaver | I have 2 screens also... |
| 17:24.57 | airtonix | i just use xchat |
| 17:25.01 | Iriel | adys: will do whjen we win wg |
| 17:25.03 | Huggz_ | meh |
| 17:25.06 | Adys | np |
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| 17:25.11 | airtonix | lulz |
| 17:25.12 | A-KO | lol |
| 17:25.23 | airtonix | driveby questions |
| 17:25.31 | A-KO | I get that a lot, a lot of people that want to say, look at armory from within game |
| 17:25.43 | A-KO | you could make a program with an overlay I suppose, but you'd have to type nonetheless :P |
| 17:25.50 | A-KO | something like xfire/steam |
| 17:25.51 | airtonix | orly? |
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| 17:26.09 | airtonix | i smell waste of time |
| 17:26.26 | awweaver | Yes, just run wow in a windows, there problem fixed |
| 17:27.02 | A-KO | hmmm |
| 17:27.05 | airtonix | why not a door frame ? |
| 17:27.06 | cbreak | A-KO: just switch to a different space |
| 17:27.13 | A-KO | time to run off to office depot/best buy |
| 17:27.22 | awweaver | ? |
| 17:27.38 | A-KO | oh, no, cbreak, I don't care--dual monitors and wow in windowed mode with 8GB of ram :P I'm not hurting for any resources to open a browser and armory, lol |
| 17:27.41 | A-KO | just other people ask me all of the time |
| 17:27.44 | cbreak | I have WoW running in space 5, so I have my TV Tuner on the second screen, and can switch to the space with my web browser or the one with IRC with a simple key press |
| 17:28.02 | A-KO | nice |
| 17:28.20 | awweaver | :( i want that... |
| 17:28.27 | airtonix | i press key five and skynets starts |
| 17:29.02 | cbreak | I know linux has virtual screens too |
| 17:29.11 | cbreak | windows might have it if you pay for it |
| 17:29.12 | cbreak | maybe |
| 17:29.14 | airtonix | i know cool right ? |
| 17:29.20 | awweaver | i wish i coudl make a macro that, changes spec and applies the pressence i tell it to, and change gear... |
| 17:29.30 | cbreak | airtonix: do not press that button |
| 17:29.44 | airtonix | it'll happen eventually |
| 17:29.52 | airtonix | i have to clean the keyboard sometime |
| 17:30.06 | durcyn | awweaver: http://www.wowace.com/addons/equipmentmanager_swapspecs/ |
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| 17:31.23 | durcyn | cbreak: there are free virutal desktop managers for windows, i.e. http://virtuawin.sourceforge.net/ |
| 17:31.57 | cbreak | I have to run WoW in full-screen windowed mode for it to work on OS X |
| 17:32.11 | airtonix | none of them actually do all the things that workspaces on X do though |
| 17:32.12 | cbreak | it obviously doesn't work if the app captures the screen |
| 17:32.32 | durcyn | obviously, directx is a whole other animal |
| 17:32.39 | awweaver | Q: what meta should i get, DK and i need to max my def... |
| 17:32.48 | airtonix | of all the ones i tried on windows, none of them re-nice apps that are not on the current viewport. |
| 17:33.56 | awweaver | i wanted to try dual boxing btu i couldnt get it to work... |
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| 17:34.08 | cbreak | airtonix: that sounds dumb anyway |
| 17:34.15 | cbreak | why should they renice apps? |
| 17:34.46 | cbreak | the scheduler will, if it is made for interactive use, prioritize the active process anyway |
| 17:34.48 | airtonix | cbreak, maybe beacause they are not the apps im concerned with at the moment |
| 17:34.56 | airtonix | well it didnt |
| 17:35.01 | airtonix | therefore |
| 17:35.04 | airtonix | crap |
| 17:35.12 | airtonix | :) |
| 17:35.43 | awweaver | I need help guys... |
| 17:35.44 | cbreak | ah well. You need an 8 core computer. No problem with background processes :) |
| 17:35.53 | cbreak | or at least a dual core |
| 17:36.00 | Adys | Windows users, I need some beta testers here |
| 17:36.05 | airtonix | performs emergency surgery on awweaver |
| 17:36.08 | awweaver | I will |
| 17:36.08 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/adys/mmocu.zip |
| 17:36.25 | Adys | unzip this, tell the exe your wow path, install the addon |
| 17:36.56 | airtonix | awweaver, did you backup your wow game first ? |
| 17:37.01 | airtonix | chuckles |
| 17:37.20 | awweaver | I have another directory i can use...i have like 3 of them |
| 17:37.36 | awweaver | one is the PTR though... |
| 17:37.42 | airtonix | awweaver, i see you've sampled adys-code before |
| 17:38.05 | awweaver | Nope, i just like having a backup... |
| 17:38.14 | airtonix | unfortunately i dont have wow anymroe so i can't help adys |
| 17:38.28 | Adys | yeah you need wow installed |
| 17:38.54 | awweaver | grr... |
| 17:39.04 | Iriel | Adys: my ports are outdated, i'm gooing to upgrade those first before I do this.. |
| 17:39.09 | Adys | np |
| 17:39.17 | awweaver | This won't like delete my wow foldr will it?.... |
| 17:39.22 | Adys | no |
| 17:39.22 | awweaver | hehe |
| 17:39.25 | Adys | it will download an addon |
| 17:39.29 | Adys | and keep it up to date |
| 17:39.50 | Gintaro | And how is it different from MMOUI Minion? |
| 17:39.57 | awweaver | takes longer than would be expected |
| 17:40.01 | Adys | it's just for a single addon |
| 17:40.13 | awweaver | Ok i did it, what did it update? |
| 17:40.35 | Gintaro | Adys' database of WoW Login credentials |
| 17:40.38 | Adys | nothing, it installed a data recorder that's going to log your loot and keys |
| 17:40.39 | Gintaro | pwned! |
| 17:40.51 | awweaver | kills the adds on Pandora |
| 17:41.03 | Adys | play for a while, start it up again and click upload |
| 17:41.24 | awweaver | ok? |
| 17:41.25 | awweaver | ... |
| 17:41.27 | Gintaro | Play for a while and listen ... |
| 17:41.46 | Gintaro | Cant wait for D3! |
| 17:41.57 | awweaver | Witch Doctor - Ooh Eeh Ooh Ah Aah Ting Tang Walla Walla Bing |
| 17:42.24 | awweaver | my guild hates it when i put that in guild chat, i dont know why... |
| 17:42.36 | Thunder_Child | i wonder... |
| 17:42.44 | awweaver | lol....wut |
| 17:42.59 | Gintaro | I'm missing the Bang at the end |
| 17:43.10 | Thunder_Child | thats what she said |
| 17:43.16 | awweaver | Witch Doctor - Ooh Eeh Ooh Ah Aah Ting Tang Walla Walla Bing Bang |
| 17:43.16 | Gintaro | hah! |
| 17:43.19 | awweaver | fix'd |
| 17:43.23 | Gintaro | Nice one TC |
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| 17:45.10 | awweaver | oo i have 39 triumph... |
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| 17:46.01 | Gintaro | useless |
| 17:48.24 | awweaver | | . |
| 17:48.41 | Fisker | .     | |
| 17:48.49 | awweaver | | . |
| 17:48.51 | Fisker | [Shirik] |
| 17:49.01 | [Shirik] | [Fisker] |
| 17:49.20 | Gintaro | [ ] |
| 17:49.20 | awweaver | Multiple ball pong! |
| 17:49.27 | awweaver | | ....... |
| 17:49.34 | Fisker | [Shirik] |
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| 17:49.42 | [Shirik] | [Fisker] |
| 17:49.50 | Fisker | [Shirik] |
| 17:50.10 | Amarande | hmm, weird |
| 17:50.21 | Amarande | they didn't update new DKs with the new FPs added to plaguelands in 3.3 |
| 17:50.34 | Fisker | why would they? |
| 17:50.35 | Amarande | also: wish herbalism leveled as fast as skinning. :) |
| 17:50.55 | Amarande | Fisker: because it was a design decision that DKs would start with all Azeroth FPs |
| 17:51.03 | Amarande | which makes it odd that they didn't have DKs started since 3.3 get the new ones |
| 17:51.07 | Fisker | no i mean why would they update it? |
| 17:51.39 | Amarande | and dammit. there's no glyphs of obliterate on AH. |
| 17:58.06 | zenzelezz | Windows 7 can't show TGA thumbnails in Explorer? o_O |
| 17:58.15 | zenzelezz | such a super-hard format and all |
| 17:59.32 | Mikk | windows never did speak tga |
| 17:59.58 | Mikk | and discouraging it does make sense - it's a silly format now that png has arrived |
| 18:00.02 | zenzelezz | yeah, but why? Even I wrote a TGA loader |
| 18:00.30 | Mikk | you're only wanting it because of one single application though ;) |
| 18:00.44 | Mikk | there's two dozen more formats that were used as much as .tga back in the day |
| 18:00.48 | Mikk | that you never heard of |
| 18:00.51 | Mikk | and wouldnt want today |
| 18:01.04 | cbreak | even windows' BMP loader code had a buffer overflow vulnerability that was exploitable to run arbitrary code |
| 18:01.16 | cbreak | be glad they didn't do that for targa |
| 18:01.46 | zenzelezz | at least it's not TIFF... why Grab on Mac only wants to save to that, I can't tell |
| 18:01.59 | Mikk | tiff is about as the same as tga functionality wise |
| 18:02.06 | Mikk | Q.E.D |
| 18:02.13 | zenzelezz | TIFF is a monster |
| 18:02.16 | cbreak | zenzelezz: you can chose |
| 18:02.31 | Mikk | zenzelezz: no more than tga is ;) |
| 18:02.32 | cbreak | by default, screenshots seem to be PNG in 10.6 |
| 18:02.34 | Fisker | i can blow you up |
| 18:02.48 | Mikk | if we're talking the "dinosaur" kind of monster anyway |
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| 18:02.55 | zenzelezz | cbreak: really? Don't think I've tried Grab since I upgraded, but in 10.5 I swear I didn't find anything but TIFF |
| 18:03.07 | cbreak | I don't use grab for screenshots though |
| 18:03.11 | Dagmar | Macs have been using TIFF for ages, which should explain a lot |
| 18:03.22 | Dagmar | **ages** |
| 18:03.28 | Mikk | mm.. TIFF = desktop publishing = mac |
| 18:03.29 | zenzelezz | cbreak: what do you use? I'd love suggestions =) |
| 18:03.45 | cbreak | apple-shift-3 or apple-shift-4 |
| 18:03.50 | Mikk | iirc what makes tiff so popular for that is that it can save in different colorspaces |
| 18:03.56 | Mikk | like RGB <> CMYK separate |
| 18:04.06 | cbreak | you can grab windows if you use apple-shift-4 and switch to window mode with space |
| 18:04.12 | cbreak | don't ask how I found that out... |
| 18:04.18 | zenzelezz | cbreak: oh, neat - thanks :) |
| 18:04.59 | cbreak | if you make a window-only screenshot you get correct alpha-blended shadows too :) |
| 18:05.40 | zenzelezz | cool |
| 18:08.04 | cbreak | in older versions of OS X, that method used to make PDF files |
| 18:09.41 | zenzelezz | ... out of windows? |
| 18:10.17 | cbreak | out of any screenshot |
| 18:10.32 | cbreak | I don't know if they preserved the vector meta though, or just used it as wrapper for a bitmap data |
| 18:10.46 | cbreak | anyway, man screencapture if oyu like the CLI :) |
| 18:11.29 | zenzelezz | will do, cheers |
| 18:13.59 | Adys | perl freaks |
| 18:14.00 | Adys | sed -i '/DEBUG_LEVEL = 4/DEBUG_LEVEL = 1/' MMOC_Recorder.lua |
| 18:14.05 | Adys | does that = need escaping? |
| 18:14.20 | [Shirik] | what are you doing that's sed not perl |
| 18:14.31 | Adys | doesnt sed use pcre? |
| 18:14.37 | [Shirik] | still not perl! |
| 18:14.40 | [Shirik] | perl COMPATIBLE |
| 18:14.50 | Adys | isnt sed written in perl. |
| 18:14.56 | [Shirik] | that doesn't make sed perl |
| 18:15.11 | Adys | Shirik |
| 18:15.13 | [Shirik] | also no |
| 18:15.17 | [Shirik] | it shouldn't need escaping |
| 18:15.32 | Adys | sed: -e expression #1, char 19: extra characters after command |
| 18:15.33 | Adys | :( |
| 18:15.34 | Cide | hot name [Shirik] |
| 18:15.41 | cbreak | shouldn't it be sed -i 's/blah/newblah/m'? |
| 18:15.44 | [Shirik] | also |
| 18:15.45 | [Shirik] | yeah |
| 18:15.47 | [Shirik] | what he said |
| 18:15.55 | [Shirik] | you're missing an s |
| 18:16.01 | Adys | oh |
| 18:16.01 | Adys | doh |
| 18:16.07 | cbreak | assuming you want to search and replace |
| 18:16.27 | [Shirik] | hot name Cide |
| 18:16.30 | Cide | thank you |
| 18:16.36 | Cide | I'm 4-0 since reset 1v1 |
| 18:16.41 | Cide | winning spree! |
| 18:19.04 | [Shirik] | AssertEquals(Cide, God) |
| 18:19.15 | Cide | yes |
| 18:19.20 | Cide | what's with the [] anyway? |
| 18:19.24 | Cide | are you a regular expression? |
| 18:19.34 | [Shirik] | no |
| 18:19.37 | nevcairiel | Shirik got demoted to a character class |
| 18:19.37 | [Shirik] | long story, another channel |
| 18:19.40 | awweaver | Shirik is not regualt... |
| 18:19.57 | awweaver | regular... |
| 18:21.42 | Fisker | do go on [Shirik] |
| 18:22.52 | awweaver | waits.... |
| 18:25.58 | Thrae | How do you make custom links in Trade? |
| 18:26.14 | awweaver | ? what do u mean |
| 18:26.37 | Thrae | [My Custom Link] |
| 18:26.50 | awweaver | idk...internet? |
| 18:27.17 | Adys | Thrae: what kind? |
| 18:27.37 | Adys | custom tradeskill/achievement links? |
| 18:27.42 | Thrae | Adys: Hover Link that shows a tooltip when you mouse over it. |
| 18:27.55 | Adys | thats.. an addon |
| 18:28.00 | awweaver | :( i hav eto kil the champion now... |
| 18:28.14 | Thrae | Adys: What about spells? You can link those. |
| 18:28.17 | Adys | yes |
| 18:28.26 | Adys | but what do you mean by "custom"? |
| 18:28.45 | Thrae | How do you link spells by spell id? |
| 18:28.57 | Adys | GetSpellInfo(id) |
| 18:29.06 | Adys | but |
| 18:29.07 | Adys | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info14774-FindIt.html |
| 18:29.08 | Adys | gogo |
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| 18:29.15 | Thrae | No, I mean in chat |
| 18:29.27 | awweaver | Like i said internet |
| 18:29.30 | Adys | getspellinfo returns a link i think |
| 18:29.36 | Adys | in one of the args |
| 18:29.41 | Thrae | Ah |
| 18:30.18 | Adys | Thrae: im still unsure what you want to do exactly |
| 18:31.23 | Thrae | Someone was linking stuff like [Uber Shroud of Healing] in blue, which is the same colour as spell links. |
| 18:31.47 | Thrae | It seems like they were linking spells though. |
| 18:32.05 | Adys | screenshot? |
| 18:32.15 | Adys | also try /dump "<linkhere>" |
| 18:35.27 | Mikk | Thrae: they were linking the tradeskill to make it |
| 18:35.34 | zenzelezz | <MILF and COOKIES> o_O |
| 18:35.50 | Thrae | Mikk: You can't make [Allergies] |
| 18:35.59 | Mikk | no, that's a real spell |
| 18:36.03 | Mikk | look it up on wowhead |
| 18:36.09 | Thrae | Yeah, they were linking spells |
| 18:36.09 | Mikk | it's something mobs use |
| 18:36.28 | Thrae | I'm just trying to make my own links and wondered if there was a shortcut for it |
| 18:36.34 | Thrae | My own spell links from real spells |
| 18:37.49 | Mikk | GetSpellInfo(12345) |
| 18:38.05 | Mikk | hmmm no |
| 18:38.12 | Mikk | no link there |
| 18:41.54 | Gintaro | Can't you just find the spell you want to link on wowhead and press the "Link" button |
| 18:42.08 | Arrowmaster | [Shirik]: you should come help me get an achievement in halo3 |
| 18:42.17 | [Shirik] | what achievement |
| 18:42.18 | Gintaro | achievement whote |
| 18:42.24 | Gintaro | s/ote/ore/ |
| 18:42.30 | Arrowmaster | [Shirik]: maybe next time buddy |
| 18:42.41 | [Shirik] | o.O |
| 18:43.18 | Arrowmaster | im only missing 3 of the original achievements, and i heard something weird happens if you start getting the dlc ones then get one of the original ones |
| 18:43.39 | Arrowmaster | so i want to get the one of those 3 that doesnt require ranked ffa |
| 18:43.50 | Arrowmaster | before i start getting the dlc ones |
| 19:04.00 | Fisker | hey [Shirik] |
| 19:04.05 | Fisker | tell me the story of how you got that name |
| 19:04.11 | [Shirik] | no ty |
| 19:04.21 | Fisker | .jpg? |
| 19:05.01 | Fisker | .JPG?! |
| 19:05.42 | Gnarfoz | .JPEG |
| 19:05.46 | Gnarfoz | >:3 |
| 19:07.08 | [Shirik] | .JOINTPHOTOGRAPHICEXPERTSGROUP |
| 19:07.23 | Gnarfoz | file extensions are overrated |
| 19:07.58 | haste | we should all stop using them! |
| 19:08.08 | Gintaro | mime types ftw! |
| 19:08.32 | Fisker | no [Shirik] |
| 19:08.37 | Fisker | .jpg or you tell the story |
| 19:08.56 | Fisker | http://lolpics.se/?id=813 <-lol |
| 19:09.09 | Gintaro | heh |
| 19:09.14 | Fisker | haste |
| 19:09.19 | Fisker | notice of account will closure |
| 19:11.02 | haste | enter all your information on the page! |
| 19:11.49 | Thrae | Mwhaha, this is super-annoying |
| 19:12.09 | Thrae | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:12.34 | Fisker | Thrae |
| 19:12.39 | Fisker | notice of account will closure |
| 19:12.52 | Thrae | Fisker: You got banned from WoW? |
| 19:16.05 | zenzelezz | "account will closure"; that sounds like a scam e-mail |
| 19:16.25 | mikma | notice of troll will encounter |
| 19:16.54 | Amarande | file extensions ... probably the reason Lua often gets called LUA |
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| 19:21.35 | Arrowmaster | [Shirik]: i just went +11 in a social FFA, the next closest was a +5 and there were 3 -7's |
| 19:25.09 | [Shirik] | lol |
| 19:28.28 | Arrowmaster | and i cant even fucking get into a damn map with a vehicle |
| 19:29.24 | Iriel | Adys: Qt4 is taking a while to install |
| 19:29.54 | Adys | iriel, I'll be going to bed soon |
| 19:29.56 | Adys | but |
| 19:30.03 | Adys | you need libbz2 headers as well |
| 19:30.09 | Adys | and cmake |
| 19:31.05 | Iriel | i have cmake |
| 19:31.08 | [Shirik] | Iriel: Are you compiling it? |
| 19:31.26 | Iriel | Im trying to (if 'it' means Adys' thing) |
| 19:31.33 | [Shirik] | no, Qt |
| 19:31.44 | Iriel | macports appears to be |
| 19:31.53 | [Shirik] | oh |
| 19:31.59 | [Shirik] | I compiled Qt myself |
| 19:32.03 | [Shirik] | that took about 10 hours |
| 19:32.09 | Adys | good for you shirik |
| 19:32.12 | Adys | wanna test my stuff? |
| 19:32.30 | [Shirik] | You're too late, I was already asked by amro, and I told him I will in 30 minutes |
| 19:32.34 | Cide | how long are you keeping this name shirik? |
| 19:32.41 | Adys | fail |
| 19:32.42 | Cide | it's annoying to ping you |
| 19:32.43 | [Shirik] | probably until I get to school (in 30 minutes) |
| 19:32.58 | Cide | ok |
| 19:33.00 | Cide | I can live with that |
| 19:33.37 | Adys | Cide |
| 19:33.42 | Adys | can you live with THAT |
| 19:33.51 | Cide | yes |
| 19:33.52 | Cide | I never ping you |
| 19:34.04 | Cide | OH SNAP |
| 19:34.14 | zenzelezz | [Adys]: [Shirik] is just having a 1997 moment |
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| 19:42.15 | Fisker | hey [Shirik] |
| 19:42.30 | Fisker | lol mikma |
| 19:42.33 | Fisker | well played |
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| 20:23.19 | Thunder_Child | is there a mod that will supress the motd? |
| 20:24.09 | Gnarfoz | certainly |
| 20:24.29 | Gnarfoz | search wowi for 'motd' ;p |
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| 20:50.42 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkmcupFx3FQ |
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| 20:58.45 | Gintaro | It's funny cause it's true |
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| 20:59.45 | Gintaro | I mean, if you don't see it, it must mean it doesn't happen right? right?! |
| 21:04.35 | jnwhiteh | I just want Tweetie that also works with my Facebook timeline. Or any client that combines the two and doesn't suck. |
| 21:06.08 | mikma | tweetbook |
| 21:06.20 | mikma | facer |
| 21:06.23 | cbreak | twitts... I wonder if they run around naked in real life too |
| 21:06.32 | tem | mikma, that would be facr |
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| 21:07.19 | mikma | tem: no! |
| 21:07.45 | tem | maybe even fcr if you want to be super web2.0 about it |
| 21:07.57 | mikma | fcr.com |
| 21:08.08 | tem | rofl |
| 21:08.17 | tem | that jingle is now stuck in my head |
| 21:09.04 | jnwhiteh | I wasn't asking for a name. |
| 21:09.05 | jnwhiteh | I ate you. |
| 21:09.07 | jnwhiteh | hate. |
| 21:09.21 | tem | jnwhiteh, don't hate |
| 21:12.27 | mikma | hate leads to anger |
| 21:14.34 | Gagorian | Eating leads to fat. Fat leads to diabetes. Diabetes leads to amputations. Amputations lead to becoming Darth Vader. |
| 21:15.18 | Gagorian | So jnwhiteh: Stop eating tem |
| 21:15.47 | tem | the betus leads to wilford brimley |
| 21:16.04 | tem | at least you'll be able to get your testing supplies |
| 21:16.13 | mikma | testes |
| 21:16.34 | tem | http://i.imgur.com/2AVxz.jpg |
| 21:16.42 | tem | I'm not done being proud of that ^ |
| 21:17.19 | Kalroth | you're bad! |
| 21:17.31 | tem | yes we are |
| 21:18.06 | tem | so bad that putricide and sindragosa heroic 25 just gave up out of pity for us |
| 21:18.17 | Kalroth | only fair |
| 21:18.26 | tem | also, it amused me that we oneshot All you can Eat 25 |
| 21:18.27 | Kalroth | join the crowd working on LK25H! |
| 21:18.39 | tem | since I still haven't found a group that can do the achievement in 10m |
| 21:18.56 | tem | yeah, I'm looking forward to bashing my head against that wall |
| 21:19.01 | tem | maybe once we have the 15% buff... |
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| 21:19.28 | tem | I'll be over 70k hp buffed once that happens |
| 21:19.32 | tem | tee hee |
| 21:20.00 | tem | (currently 50k unbuffed in dalaran) |
| 21:21.05 | mikma | lol wow |
| 21:23.08 | fiercerest | How long do new projects on curseforge usually take to be approved? |
| 21:23.30 | mikma | 0sek - inf |
| 21:23.36 | mikma | sec* |
| 21:24.11 | fiercerest | thats a fairly large range. Idk if I'll survive the maximum |
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| 21:25.30 | Cide | you will, by definition, don't |
| 21:25.34 | Cide | s/don't/not/ |
| 21:26.38 | zenzelezz | "Next up... styling without CSS - Courtesy of the font tag." |
| 21:26.55 | zenzelezz | amusing discussion on http://developers.slashdot.org/story/10/04/24/1734241/Proof-of-Concept-For-Ajax-Without-JavaScript comments |
| 21:27.51 | Gintaro | The only use for iframes is to hide test answers when taking a digital test! |
| 21:27.52 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/04/24/funny-pictures-of-who-givs-a-crap/ |
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| 21:40.59 | Amarande | so apparently some folks consider it douchebaggish to call a particular piece of loot in advance when forming a raid. :| |
| 21:41.10 | cbreak | it is |
| 21:41.22 | zenzelezz | to me that depends entirely on what kind of raid it is |
| 21:41.36 | Dagmar | It's the sort of thing you should tell people about hte moment you're telking to them about joining up |
| 21:41.37 | zenzelezz | for a PUG, I think it's reasonable for the leader to decide if you can do that |
| 21:42.03 | Dagmar | Otherwise, at best it looks like you got the raid together, and then decided you didn't feel like rolling, or at worst that you're using them all as pawns |
| 21:42.55 | Dagmar | Unless you tell people before you bring them in, you basically *will* look like a penis. |
| 21:43.37 | Dagmar | Tell people up front "I'm forming a raid to get my [Item of Uberness]. mind helping?" ... |
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| 21:44.35 | ZorbaTHut | personally, if I "called" something in a raid, I'd also pass on everything else |
| 21:44.38 | ZorbaTHut | and advertise as such |
| 21:44.40 | Amarande | I'm supposing that manipulating the raid composition to conspicuously not include any others of (your class) is also bad |
| 21:44.59 | tem | not really |
| 21:45.05 | tem | unless you struggle to fill the raid |
| 21:45.26 | Dagmar | Amarande: So long as you don't make the raid iffy because you don't want competition from an OT. Heh |
| 21:45.28 | Corrodias | wouldn't be so sure about that |
| 21:45.40 | Amarande | (there being a few classes for which this is simple enough to get what you want, particularly hunters, as no one else is really going to have a justifiable excuse to roll on non-tanking ranged weapons ...) |
| 21:45.56 | Dagmar | ZorbaTHut: yeah I've seen people "deal" like that. I think it makes it more amenable that way |
| 21:46.03 | ZorbaTHut | I think manipulating is better. you're not wasting anyone's time, you're just picking and choosing who you want to be involved |
| 21:46.04 | Corrodias | but yes, i could see the raid being just as effective with only one of a certain class |
| 21:46.22 | ZorbaTHut | there aren't any classes that you actually need *one* of, let alone more than one |
| 21:46.29 | zenzelezz | so in Trade, there was a warrior complaining that with Titan's Grip he couldn't equip two two-handers at the same time. He apparently didn't read the tooltip, or he'd see it didn't say "polearms" |
| 21:46.29 | Dagmar | ...but some stuff, like say, that drake in CoS (just an example, I know it's easy)... That's something I don't think one can get away with doing that on |
| 21:46.32 | tem | Whenever I form a toc10 or 25 group on my warrior, I make sure the other tank is a feral |
| 21:46.37 | tem | so I get to whore the tank gear. |
| 21:46.39 | ZorbaTHut | now if you were trying to manipulate the raid so that nobody who needed, say, a 1h DPS weapon was in the raid, that might be a bit different. |
| 21:46.44 | tem | there's nothing wrong with that imo |
| 21:46.55 | Dagmar | hehe |
| 21:47.01 | Dagmar | It makes rolling less stressful |
| 21:47.05 | tem | espcially since I still haven't gotten a goddamn shield |
| 21:47.24 | tem | also, NHoR can go FUCK ITSELF FOREVER IN HELL |
| 21:47.31 | Dagmar | hahah |
| 21:47.36 | Corrodias | it is if those people actually -want- to go on the raid for other items, and instead you're taking people who are merely willingto do it as a favor to you |
| 21:47.39 | tem | I've lost more Splintered Doors of the Citadel than I can even count |
| 21:47.44 | tem | to dps and healers |
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| 21:47.47 | tem | *rage* |
| 21:47.48 | Amarande | tem: that would be fairly difficult, though |
| 21:47.58 | Amarande | you'd basically be saying no melee DPS at all, except Blood/Unholy DKs and Ret paladins |
| 21:48.05 | Amarande | maybe Arms warriors |
| 21:48.07 | tem | uh |
| 21:48.08 | tem | what? |
| 21:48.10 | ZorbaTHut | corrodias, there's a different between wasting someone's time and simply not letting them come along |
| 21:48.12 | Corrodias | try going as the only healer after some healing trinket |
| 21:48.12 | Dagmar | One warrior, two healers, seven hunters. |
| 21:48.22 | tem | if the other tank can't use plate, I get priority on all plate tanking gear |
| 21:48.23 | Amarande | Dagmar: and a purebred Guernsey cow? :) |
| 21:48.29 | tem | I don't see how that's difficult at all |
| 21:48.32 | Amarande | tem: I was speaking of the 1H weapon scenario |
| 21:48.43 | Corrodias | ZorbaTHut: there's also a big difference between trusting your guildmates and paranoia |
| 21:48.46 | Amarande | the only melee dps that don't use 1H are blood/unholy DK, retadin, and arms warrior |
| 21:48.49 | Dagmar | Amarande: I think you could probably drop a hunter for a cow there and get away with it. |
| 21:48.58 | Amarande | Dagmar: you missed the joke entirely :| |
| 21:49.18 | Dagmar | No, but with seven hunters you'd have a small ZOO rolling around |
| 21:49.24 | Dagmar | Might as well add a cow. |
| 21:49.27 | Corrodias | moo |
| 21:49.38 | tem | MOOOOOO |
| 21:49.40 | Dagmar | It can soak up aoe. ;) |
| 21:49.55 | tem | gah! |
| 21:49.57 | tem | sc reset again |
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| 21:50.57 | Dagmar | I wound up in Kara once with three other hunters |
| 21:52.32 | Corrodias | i bet stuff died quickly, if nothing else |
| 21:53.15 | Dagmar | Yeah but the more amusing thing was that the healer was safe as houses since we had macros for bacon saving |
| 21:54.00 | zenzelezz | bacon saving? |
| 21:54.22 | Corrodias | mmm... bacon |
| 21:54.24 | Dagmar | "saving your bacon". i.e., healer gets aggro and *poof* 3-4 pets all over it |
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| 21:54.48 | zenzelezz | seems kind of rude to send all your pets on the healer when he's already being attacked by a mob |
| 21:54.54 | Dagmar | Pets not in real danger because of hunter res, hunters not in real danger because of FD |
| 21:56.09 | Dagmar | I am beginning to think everyone who buys a netbook is idm. |
| 21:56.12 | Dagmar | s/idm/dim/; |
| 21:56.28 | Dagmar | ...although it may be just the people trying to sell them on Craigslist. |
| 21:57.29 | Dagmar | Three people with SSD-equipped netbooks on Craigslist and I can't get any of them to commit |
| 21:57.53 | zenzelezz | I thought people on Craigslist generally had problems committing |
| 21:59.11 | Amarande | zenzelezz: I dunno, the girl who sold herself for an epic flyer ended up in a relationship with the guy lol |
| 22:01.20 | zenzelezz | maybe she just needed a Traveller's Tundra mammoth |
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| 22:02.12 | Thunder_Child | "It is speculated that google owns more than 2% of all the worlds servers" i cant tell if thats high or low. |
| 22:02.25 | nevcairiel | seems low for google |
| 22:02.35 | Thunder_Child | thats over 1 million servers |
| 22:02.37 | Thunder_Child | btw |
| 22:02.39 | zenzelezz | I'm going to have to say "needs a definition for 'server'" |
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| 22:02.46 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/5517041/googles-insane-number-of-servers-visualized |
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| 22:03.16 | Amarande | zenzelezz: that Craigslist was back during BC |
| 22:03.29 | Amarande | pre-SSO BC, too, back when 5000g actually was kind of a big deal |
| 22:03.57 | nevcairiel | must be fun being a girl, that wouldnt work as a guy :P |
| 22:05.31 | nevcairiel | Thunder_Child: somehow that color doesnt fit google |
| 22:06.00 | Thunder_Child | nevcairiel: no kidding |
| 22:06.07 | Fisker | stop it nevcairiel |
| 22:06.24 | Corrodias | fun? i don't know. but i'm sure you're right that it wouldn't work. |
| 22:06.33 | Corrodias | unless you're johnny depp or something. |
| 22:07.06 | zenzelezz | it might work as a guy too |
| 22:07.18 | zenzelezz | ... if you weren't specifically saying "girls only" |
| 22:07.32 | Corrodias | hmm... good point, it -might-. |
| 22:07.53 | Fisker | stop it zenzelezz :( |
| 22:08.10 | zenzelezz | as you can see, Fisker has experienced this |
| 22:08.31 | nevcairiel | the danes, a queer folk |
| 22:08.44 | Fisker | no! |
| 22:08.48 | zenzelezz | you can't really blame them; they can't even understand what each other say anymore |
| 22:09.25 | Fisker | it's the end of zenzelezz as we know it |
| 22:09.30 | zenzelezz | and you feel fine? |
| 22:09.33 | Fisker | (imma fuck you up) |
| 22:21.37 | Dagmar | Thunder Child: Back in 2001 I was in FirstWorld's datacenter when Google had just started their "4 to 1" U configuration with two servers in the front, two in the back, and the exhaust going up the middle |
| 22:22.18 | Dagmar | Thunder Child: Their servers were black and had almost no lights on them but the power LED, and I swear to god they reminded me of alien engines out of some sci-fi movie |
| 22:22.47 | nevcairiel | google should really open a datacenter and call it skynet |
| 22:22.54 | Dagmar | These mysterious metal cubes into which engineers fed power, and caused motive force to be generated |
| 22:23.27 | Dagmar | Except in Google's case, they'ev got these mysterious metal obelisks which their engineers feed power, which generate small amounts of heat and a WHOLE lot of money |
| 22:23.44 | Dagmar | Just as a by-product of crunching numbers. |
| 22:24.09 | Dagmar | Apparently it's scalable. :) |
| 22:24.33 | Dagmar | That would be why they have enough servers to blot out the sun |
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| 22:25.43 | Dagmar | nevcariel: That's north of Atlanta I think |
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| 22:42.35 | Amarande | has never quite understood why there is Purple Lotus in Ashenvale |
| 22:43.51 | Amarande | it doesn't fit the area or item level at all |
| 22:44.31 | zenzelezz | maybe they ignored the level thing and just placed them by all ruins? |
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| 22:50.30 | Dagmar | Night elves smoke it. |
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| 23:06.44 | batrick | wuwu |
| 23:06.52 | haste | wawa |
| 23:10.30 | Kalroth | wewe |
| 23:12.11 | nevcairiel | wowo |
| 23:14.38 | Shirik | ... |
| 23:14.46 | zenzelezz | Shirik: you lost |
| 23:15.32 | Thunder_Child | no, i think Shirik is the only one that won |
| 23:15.43 | zenzelezz | Thunder_Child: but you're weird |
| 23:16.03 | Thunder_Child | thats true enough |
| 23:16.05 | zenzelezz | see Shirik, you hurt Kalroth's feelings |
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| 23:50.10 | awweaver | well arent we a talkative bunch today.... |
| 23:51.26 | Thunder_Child | it's usually quite dead here on the weekens |
| 23:51.29 | Thunder_Child | ends* |
| 23:51.38 | Thunder_Child | people pretending they have lives and shatnot |
| 23:51.44 | Thunder_Child | whatnot* |
| 23:51.46 | awweaver | .... |
| 23:51.54 | awweaver | Pong? |
| 23:51.56 | awweaver | |. |
| 23:51.58 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 23:52.02 | awweaver | :( |
| 23:52.54 | awweaver | Im doing house keeping on my computer....it was gettign xluttered |
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