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| 00:08.06 | sylvanaar | i need a new game |
| 00:12.38 | tem | sylvanaar, nerd sniping |
| 00:12.46 | WobWork | sylvanaar: Echo Bazaar |
| 00:13.12 | Lopeppeppy | bowling for geeks |
| 00:14.44 | sylvanaar | i have settlers 7, gow3, ffxiii, battlefield2, etc. etc. but i dont want to play them, i just like buying them - isnt that sick |
| 00:14.53 | WobWork | yes |
| 00:15.43 | sylvanaar | so, is c&c4 any good |
| 00:16.05 | sylvanaar | rating are bad |
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| 00:16.41 | Kraps | sylvanaar: i have a few games like that |
| 00:17.22 | sylvanaar | i could get the warhammer 40k combo pack |
| 00:21.23 | kd3 | whee... fished up a "The 1 Ring" |
| 00:25.08 | tem | ~pil |
| 00:25.09 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
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| 00:40.19 | Thunder_Child | there needs to be more blizzcon nao. |
| 00:55.12 | Legorol | May i recommend WoW, WoW:TBC and WoW:WotLK. I heard they are pretty good :o) |
| 00:55.30 | Legorol | (that's for sylvanaar) |
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| 01:25.58 | Amarande | Legorol, I believe he said 'new' game |
| 01:26.17 | Amarande | I'm beginning to swear the Arcanite Dragonling Schematic doesn't exist |
| 01:26.40 | Amarande | I found my third Greater Arcane Protection Potion recipe tonight, and my second Robe of Winter Night, and STILL no arcanite dragonling schematic |
| 01:31.19 | Gintaro | Torchlight |
| 01:35.20 | WobWork | this ^ |
| 01:35.30 | WobWork | but he'll download it |
| 01:35.32 | WobWork | and not play it |
| 01:36.25 | sylvanaar | i think i might have it |
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| 01:49.15 | Jamash | $2 microwave pizza isn't worth $2 |
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| 02:00.13 | kd3 | winces |
| 02:00.16 | kd3 | 600 casts and counting |
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| 02:04.51 | Jamash | ? |
| 02:04.58 | kd3 | I want old ironjaw |
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| 02:33.09 | Kraps | http://www.blizzplanet.com/blog/comments/tokyopop_-_warcraft_shadow_wing_vol._1_dragons_of_outland_preview/ |
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| 02:58.08 | Adys | Very nice google wave update |
| 02:58.12 | batrick | So fucking annoying to be reading a wiki article in metric units and then they use the "Ton" out of fucking nowhere |
| 02:59.53 | WobWork | aside from the metric ton? |
| 03:00.37 | batrick | the UK ton |
| 03:00.42 | batrick | it links to that article anyway |
| 03:01.56 | PProvost | metric ton would be tonne |
| 03:05.07 | NightHawkTheSane | and obviously the metric fuckton would be fucktonne? |
| 03:05.22 | batrick | not quite |
| 03:05.26 | batrick | fuccktonne |
| 03:05.32 | NightHawkTheSane | ah yes, of course |
| 03:05.40 | batrick | nods sagely |
| 03:05.53 | ckknight | http://www.bestweekever.tv/bwe/images/2010/04/Lu0z3.gif |
| 03:06.32 | batrick | wow |
| 03:07.25 | WobWork | http://twitter.com/donttrythis/status/12483487876 |
| 03:07.45 | Amarande | kd3, your ironjaw and my arcanite dragonling heh |
| 03:08.24 | Kraps | ckknight: wtf |
| 03:08.41 | cog|away | Kraps: see WobWork |
| 03:09.18 | Kraps | thats no help |
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| 04:04.05 | Shirik | omgyes @ xkcd |
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| 04:07.18 | WobWork | you're a day old, Shirik =( |
| 04:07.24 | Shirik | I know :< |
| 04:19.14 | Amarande | and so it is now time to visit silithus. |
| 04:19.26 | Amarande | I have to wonder |
| 04:19.32 | Amarande | am I the only WoW player who actually likes Silithus? heh |
| 04:21.02 | Shirik | what could you POSSIBLY like about silithus |
| 04:22.22 | Amarande | hey, it's better than hellfire peninsula |
| 04:22.25 | Amarande | 'course, that's not saying much |
| 04:22.41 | Amarande | just about everywhere is better than effing hellfire peninsula, which I think is why I usually drag my feet about bringing characters to outland :S |
| 04:23.14 | Amarande | "yay let's make a zone that looks like every other crap bog standard boring orcish zone AND MAKES YOU STOP TO FIGHT SOMETHING EVERY TEN SECONDS NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE GOING" |
| 04:23.43 | Amarande | I guess maybe my prejudice against HFP may be in part due to being horde |
| 04:23.52 | Amarande | which means we grew up on red rocks |
| 04:23.56 | Amarande | enough red rocks already heh |
| 04:24.12 | Iriel | Shirik: Did you end up playing with LR3 tethered shooting at all? |
| 04:24.19 | Shirik | not yet |
| 04:24.23 | Amarande | at least Silithus has tan rocks instead :) |
| 04:24.23 | Shirik | I really haven't done much shooting |
| 04:24.58 | Amarande | so is ZG going away with the nuking of STV or will it still be there in cata? |
| 04:25.14 | Amarande | also, regarding that looking for raid we were talking about earlier |
| 04:25.27 | Amarande | it seems that on Turalyon at least, basically no one either knows or cares about it |
| 04:25.54 | Amarande | I had a look-see around it and I think I saw one lonely druid listed for TOC25, and me listed for UBRS, and that was all |
| 04:26.04 | Iriel | This is odd, under UV light the keys on my apple keyboard are entirely different shades |
| 04:26.11 | Iriel | But in normal light they're all white |
| 04:26.13 | Amarande | (not to mention, I'm not sure that looking for a raid is the right way to do UBRS ... I'm pretty sure this quest cannot be done in a raid group) |
| 04:26.24 | Amarande | Iriel: try looking at an iPod screen with polarized sunglasses on |
| 04:26.40 | Amarande | (makes you wonder if iPods give off super happy fun radiation OF DOOM ... heh) |
| 04:26.57 | Iriel | Amarande: Any LCD screen is wacky under polarized filters |
| 04:27.42 | Shirik | I used an LCD screen to make sure my polarizer was working, lol |
| 04:27.48 | Shirik | it didn't seem like it was working for some reason |
| 04:29.53 | Iriel | http://www.cheeseplant.org/~daniel/images/UVKB.jpg |
| 04:29.54 | Iriel | See |
| 04:30.20 | Iriel | There appear to be 3 different shades |
| 04:33.21 | Shirik | owwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww |
| 04:33.25 | Shirik | ok |
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| 04:33.48 | Shirik | for future reference: If you have a headset that operates on 2.4GHz, don't use it while using a microwave |
| 04:34.35 | Iriel | Did you cook your brain? |
| 04:34.41 | Iriel | And did your dinner make a long distance call? |
| 04:36.07 | Shirik | the latter is more accurate, yes |
| 04:36.49 | Dagmar | Shirik: Yeees. |
| 04:37.06 | Shirik | btw, best 4chan post I've ever made (NSFW) http://boards.4chan.org/b/res/219441787#219444129 |
| 04:37.22 | Dagmar | Microwave ovens like to emit RFI in that whole 2.4Ghz area so headphones, bluetooth anythings, wireless access points... all suffer |
| 04:37.24 | Dagmar | Oh, and PACEMAKERS |
| 04:37.47 | kd3 | grrs at his AP |
| 04:38.12 | kd3 | thankfully it's in a different part of the house than the microwave |
| 04:40.04 | tem | Shirik, |
| 04:40.08 | tem | how can you be a tripfag? |
| 04:40.10 | tem | HOW? |
| 04:40.17 | Shirik | because I have no desire to be on 4chan? |
| 04:40.25 | Shirik | I go onto 4chan for one thing |
| 04:40.27 | kd3 | and yet... there you are |
| 04:40.34 | Shirik | (00:28:42) (+Shiibot) !4chan ALERT: Possible Wikipedia attack: http://boards.4chan.org/b/res/219441787 -- report at http://sys.4chan.org/b/imgboard.php?mode=report&no=219441787 |
| 04:40.36 | Dagmar | ~kd3++ |
| 04:41.17 | Amarande | You receive loot: [Destiny] |
| 04:41.17 | Shirik | look at the first two responses from WP users: 1 second apart. You think that's coincidence? :) |
| 04:41.21 | Amarande | Squee. |
| 04:41.25 | Dagmar | Heh I just thought of calling the office about that McGaffe. They scrambled the office to get everyone's disabled. Heh |
| 04:41.49 | kd3 | har, McGaffe |
| 04:41.58 | kd3 | makes sure to use that at work |
| 04:42.53 | Shirik | also, tem, are you implying you are an anon?!?! |
| 04:43.00 | tem | no |
| 04:43.06 | tem | once upon a time |
| 04:43.10 | tem | before the cancer |
| 04:43.15 | kd3 | Anyonymous is insane... how does he keep contradicting himself? |
| 04:43.25 | Shirik | >< |
| 04:43.46 | tem | however |
| 04:43.59 | tem | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:43.59 | Jamash | what anonymous doesn't know is that /b/ is the cancer |
| 04:44.12 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:44.23 | Jamash | well, it depends |
| 04:44.45 | Jamash | if you didn't actually use the script, you wouldn't be doing anything bad, now would you? |
| 04:45.16 | Jamash | you would be posting it purely in the interests of scientific inquiry |
| 04:45.55 | Shirik | tem: For some reason there are a few people on /b/ that love to attack Wikipedia on a daily basis |
| 04:45.59 | Iriel | Of course, you'd be inviting someone to show up at your door and beat the crap out of you anyway, if someone else used it. |
| 04:46.02 | Shirik | so I wrote a bot that monitors 4chan for such threads |
| 04:46.16 | tem | lol nice |
| 04:46.16 | kd3 | Shirik, it's /b/ |
| 04:46.30 | kd3 | I'd italicise it as //b// but that doesn't really work |
| 04:46.37 | Shirik | lol |
| 04:46.40 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:46.52 | Shirik | maybe /\/b\// |
| 04:47.06 | Jamash | nukes are indiscriminate |
| 04:47.39 | Jamash | also dirty |
| 04:47.44 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:48.11 | kd3 | they take themselves out? and probably a third of the middle east |
| 04:48.12 | kd3 | >.> |
| 04:48.28 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:48.42 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:49.25 | Dagmar | Shirik: I can't help but think that last match needs something that looks like claws to make it perfect |
| 04:50.05 | kd3 | the teardrop attacks? |
| 04:50.07 | kd3 | thinks back |
| 04:50.25 | kd3 | bogus tcp fragmentation, right? |
| 04:50.33 | Dagmar | One of the many |
| 04:50.46 | Arrowmaster | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teardrop_Attacks |
| 04:51.04 | Dagmar | it was pretty elegant for making single windows users STFU tho |
| 04:51.44 | Adys | Shirik: more like /\\/b\\// |
| 04:51.58 | Shirik | \\// Live long and propser |
| 04:52.01 | Shirik | prosper too |
| 04:52.09 | Jamash | \m/ rock on |
| 04:52.12 | Dagmar | For awhile in #Rave we pretty much dealt with channel crashers by saying "You will not behave like that in here and we'll give you some time to contemplate the error of your ways" *SPLOIT* |
| 04:55.13 | Shirik | Iriel :< |
| 04:55.26 | Shirik | Lightroom 3 has an "export to flikr" but not "export to deviantart" |
| 04:55.32 | Iriel | So, write one |
| 04:55.34 | Iriel | Get your Lua on |
| 04:55.43 | Shirik | I don't have that kind of time! |
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| 05:05.27 | kd3 | oh wow, that was quick |
| 05:05.33 | Amarande | hmm, to do the silithus assignment packets or not |
| 05:05.40 | Amarande | I suppose it would make the CC rep grind a good bit faster |
| 05:05.46 | kd3 | a wow phishing email pretending to invite me to the 2010 arena tournament |
| 05:05.58 | Amarande | or are the assignment packets actually *less* efficient than just mass slaughtering twilights? |
| 05:06.15 | Jamash | why do you want CC rep? |
| 05:08.30 | Amarande | for the blacksmithing plans |
| 05:09.20 | Amarande | gah. BS has become an obsession |
| 05:09.27 | Amarande | must ... gather ... more plans |
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| 05:09.51 | Jamash | more plans for the plan god |
| 05:09.52 | Dagmar | Looks like the hotfix to make Lil XT STFU did not work |
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| 05:14.13 | awweaver | http://qdb.us/301600 this is some funny shit... |
| 05:24.20 | Thunder_Child | i dunno how funny that is exactly |
| 05:24.48 | awweaver | What, have have you never found a hammer int he fridge? |
| 05:25.22 | Thunder_Child | keys yes, but not a hammer |
| 05:25.40 | awweaver | keys? |
| 05:25.44 | Thunder_Child | yep |
| 05:26.02 | Shirik | wow this is cool |
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| 05:35.49 | haste | energy drinks :( |
| 05:35.55 | tem | also, this paper is relevant to my interests: ftp://download.intel.com/technology/itj/2002/volume06issue01/vol6iss1_hyper_threading_technology.pdf |
| 05:35.56 | haste | I'm sadfacing you tem! |
| 05:36.02 | tem | haste, must finish research paper |
| 05:36.09 | Shirik | aw |
| 05:36.10 | haste | energy drinks :( |
| 05:36.14 | Dagmar | I was very disappointed in the contents of Monster's Mocha Java |
| 05:36.15 | tem | was too busy getting 25 man frostwyrm earlier |
| 05:36.16 | Shirik | purl doesn't announce her supreme ruler anymore |
| 05:36.20 | tem | http://i.imgur.com/LgXA6.jpg |
| 05:36.25 | tem | ^ awesome |
| 05:36.26 | Shirik | used to be all "I'm here (courtesy of Shirik)" |
| 05:36.32 | Dagmar | I never noticed it said "HALF the caffiene of coffee" |
| 05:36.42 | Dagmar | No WONDER I could drink one and fall back asleep |
| 05:36.50 | Dagmar | It's basically coffee flavored YooHoo |
| 05:36.59 | Dagmar | ...with more vitamins. |
| 05:37.04 | haste | energy drinks :( |
| 05:37.07 | tem | haste, don't sadface me |
| 05:37.16 | haste | *sadface* |
| 05:37.18 | tem | WHAT SORCERY IS THIS? IT BURNS |
| 05:37.19 | Dagmar | Full Throttle, on the other hand... YUM |
| 05:37.27 | haste | the game?! |
| 05:37.43 | Dagmar | http://www.drinkfullthrottle.com/ |
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| 05:37.56 | Dagmar | Red Berry is like Hawaiian Punch when I was a kid |
| 05:38.03 | Dagmar | ...cept it doesn't make you quite as crazy |
| 05:38.38 | Adys | Shirik |
| 05:38.40 | Adys | I'm an idiot |
| 05:38.49 | Shirik | I know |
| 05:38.53 | Adys | Shirik |
| 05:39.18 | Adys | how do I check programmatically that an integer is a multiple of another? |
| 05:39.24 | Adys | the most efficient way |
| 05:39.26 | Jamash | MODULUS |
| 05:39.50 | Adys | i thought that was slow as shit |
| 05:39.50 | Arrowmaster | yup |
| 05:40.11 | Adys | i need to do it like over 2 million times |
| 05:40.11 | Dagmar | Divide one by the other. Check for remainders. |
| 05:40.22 | Iriel | That's what modulus is |
| 05:40.23 | Dagmar | i.e., modulus |
| 05:40.25 | Iriel | why is that considered slow? |
| 05:40.31 | Iriel | What are you comparing it to? |
| 05:40.38 | Adys | because division is considered slow? |
| 05:40.40 | Adys | or so i thought |
| 05:40.41 | Shirik | Adys, many processors actually always do a modulus operation when you do a division |
| 05:40.52 | Adys | ow |
| 05:40.55 | Shirik | like the division operation actually does both |
| 05:40.57 | Jamash | it's "slow" if you're counting individual clock cycles |
| 05:41.09 | Adys | fair enough then |
| 05:41.10 | Jamash | doing it two million times on a modern processor should take one second |
| 05:41.18 | Dagmar | Less probably |
| 05:41.28 | Dagmar | It's not like you're computing arctangents |
| 05:41.46 | Shirik | now now |
| 05:41.49 | Shirik | let's not go off on a tangent |
| 05:41.52 | Dagmar | If you were doing it on a 6502 it would be slow. |
| 05:41.54 | Shirik | lololololol I go away now |
| 05:42.00 | Dagmar | It would be AGONIZING |
| 05:42.15 | Dagmar | Modern CPUs lol at integer division |
| 05:42.21 | Jamash | inverse hyperbolic tangent |
| 05:42.27 | Arrowmaster | lua> for i=1,2000000000 do math.random() % math.random() end |
| 05:42.31 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '%' |
| 05:42.44 | Arrowmaster | i thought it was % in lua |
| 05:42.50 | haste | (missing assignment) |
| 05:43.09 | zenzelezz | CPUs doing modulus when you divide? What heresy is this; next you'll say addition and subtraction are the same too! |
| 05:43.11 | haste | but yes, lua supports % if you actually write proper syntax |
| 05:43.20 | Dagmar | mod(value,modulus) - Returns floating point modulus of value |
| 05:43.29 | Arrowmaster | lua> for i=1,2000000000 do x,y = math.random(), math.random() z = x % y end |
| 05:43.35 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: Your code exceeded set CPU limits |
| 05:44.10 | Dagmar | zenzeless: THe reason I cite the 6502 is that it didn't have a convenient function for division/multiplication |
| 05:44.16 | Arrowmaster | lua> for i=1,2000000000 do z = 1 % 2 end |
| 05:44.19 | Dagmar | If you wanted to do those, you had to figure out how to do it yourself. |
| 05:44.21 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: Your code exceeded set CPU limits |
| 05:44.50 | Arrowmaster | lua> for i=1,2000000 do z = 1 % 2 end |
| 05:44.50 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: No output |
| 05:45.03 | Arrowmaster | ok Jamash was right about the 2 million one |
| 05:45.18 | Arrowmaster | lua> for i=1,2000000 do x,y = math.random(), math.random() z = x % y end |
| 05:45.19 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: No output |
| 05:46.11 | Jamash | real 0m1.09s |
| 05:46.16 | Jamash | err |
| 05:46.28 | Jamash | real 0m0.109s |
| 05:47.44 | haste | 0.91s user 0.01s system 99% cpu 0.922 total |
| 05:47.56 | haste | doing it with luajit was a joke as usual tho' |
| 05:48.22 | Thunder_Child | thinks haste is a joke |
| 05:48.43 | Thunder_Child | lols |
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| 07:53.03 | zenzio | "Which, considering most of the complaints against Gimp are about its user interface, sounds right up Apple's alley. But when has Apple ever taken an open-source project, cleaned it up with bugfixes and lots of other improvements, and put a proprietary wrapper around it for ease-of-use?" |
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| 07:54.22 | haste | gimp has done some nifty improvements to it's interface tho' |
| 07:54.51 | zenzio | yeah; but these people are arguing about Adobe vs. Apple, so Gimp was just an example |
| 07:59.24 | krka | would be interesting to see what apple could do to improve gimp, if adobe removed photoshop from mac |
| 07:59.49 | zenzio | that's what these people are saying; and I would have to agree |
| 07:59.51 | bleeter | would be super funny given gtk was created for gimp's cross platform purposes... hahaha |
| 08:00.07 | bleeter | gtk< gimp tool kit |
| 08:00.13 | zenzio | aye |
| 08:00.18 | Fisker | hey zenzio and bleeter |
| 08:00.38 | bleeter | Fisker: how do fucking magnets work |
| 08:00.58 | haste | krka: they would probably drop GTK entirely in gimp then |
| 08:01.45 | Arrowmaster | well gimp is GPL though, not LGPL or anything |
| 08:01.55 | Fisker | idk bleeter it's a fucking miracle amirite? |
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| 08:10.29 | tem | Shirik, ping |
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| 08:27.41 | Adys | http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2010/04/briton-gets-chinese-accent-bad-migraine/ |
| 08:27.48 | Adys | Foreign Accent Syndrome |
| 08:27.56 | Adys | this is a good case of fml |
| 08:28.05 | Kalroth | haha |
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| 08:30.49 | Kalroth | Imagine having a headache and waking up speaking French |
| 08:30.55 | Kalroth | F-M-L |
| 08:31.50 | Fisker | i just gave myself a 1-inch cut |
| 08:31.55 | Fisker | fucking plastic boxes |
| 08:32.23 | zenzio | not long ago I read about some young Croation girl who came out of a coma speaking German |
| 08:32.46 | Kalroth | my SSDs arrived today Fisker, tonight I dine in SSD RAID-0! |
| 08:32.57 | olafski | sounds hellish |
| 08:34.42 | Elkano | sounds kind of useless |
| 08:34.57 | Kalroth | no its the cheap and slow SSDs |
| 08:35.05 | Elkano | doubt you'll get that much benefit of RAID-0 with SSDs |
| 08:35.15 | Kalroth | I will :p |
| 08:40.21 | Arrowmaster | i hope you are using a real raid controller then |
| 08:41.02 | Kalroth | Why? |
| 08:42.35 | Kalroth | is http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/ being funky for anyone else? :) |
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| 08:43.49 | Fisker | define funkeh |
| 08:43.58 | Kalroth | impossible |
| 08:44.09 | Fisker | haha |
| 08:44.12 | Fisker | but yeah |
| 08:49.58 | industrial | happy bday me |
| 08:50.13 | Elkano | NO U! |
| 08:52.41 | Elkano | Kalroth, you should have gotten one of those instead ;) http://www.fusionio.com/products/iodrive/?tab=specs |
| 08:58.39 | Kalroth | Elkano: I would if it wasn't so expensive :)( |
| 08:59.06 | Elkano | they aren't... $13k for 640GB ;) |
| 08:59.46 | Kalroth | Yeah, I paid ~$500 for 2x 128GB :) |
| 09:01.10 | Elkano | still a lot |
| 09:02.12 | digmouse|work | http://www.wowace.com/addons/avr/ Opinion on this? |
| 09:03.06 | jnwhiteh | it's an addon |
| 09:03.12 | jnwhiteh | I find that offensive. |
| 09:03.17 | jnwhiteh | that is my opinion. |
| 09:04.13 | Kalroth | jnwhiteh: you're offensive! |
| 09:04.31 | Kalroth | Elkano: Yeah, I don't disagree with that, but it was either that or a new skirt |
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| 09:18.31 | Fisker | i don't find it offensive |
| 09:18.32 | Fisker | whiners! |
| 09:21.55 | Adys | Rogues: can you pickpocket a tapped target? |
| 09:22.09 | krka | hmm, what is offensive about avr? |
| 09:23.35 | olafski | the name itself to begin with |
| 09:23.42 | olafski | "avr" just screams "I'm racist" |
| 09:25.28 | olafski | ok maybe the joke is becoming a bit too obscure now |
| 09:25.41 | krka | hmm? |
| 09:25.43 | krka | what does avr mean? |
| 09:26.15 | olafski | augmented virtual reality? I forgot |
| 09:26.21 | olafski | pretty damn nice addon :) |
| 09:26.23 | Kalroth | AVR (Augmented Virtual Reality) allows you to draw and add lines, circles and other markings on the 3D world itself. |
| 09:26.51 | krka | but why does AVR scream "i'm racist"? |
| 09:26.51 | olafski | and I suppose AVRE adds presets for certain bosses |
| 09:26.59 | olafski | I was kidding krka =( |
| 09:27.05 | olafski | giving some explanation as to why it might be offensive |
| 09:27.13 | krka | i see... you failed |
| 09:27.26 | olafski | < olafski> ok maybe the joke is becoming a bit too obscure now |
| 09:27.42 | Kalroth | using boss mods is cheating and blizzard should ban people using mods and block all addons and make the game not use addons so people would not cheat all the time with addons that does cheating stuff for them |
| 09:28.04 | olafski | agreed! |
| 09:28.06 | olafski | this is why I don't raid |
| 09:28.09 | olafski | everybody cheats |
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| 09:31.43 | Kalroth | no not for raids people use boss mods for instances or we will wipe a lot and this sucks people should learn to play without addons so they can be better players and have fun while still being good and running faster through instances without addons |
| 09:33.12 | Adys | stfu noob |
| 09:33.25 | olafski | you should put more typos and aolbonics in there to make it even more genuine kalroth |
| 09:33.52 | zenzio | aolbonics? |
| 09:33.57 | Kalroth | I'm pushing it as it is, do you have any idea how much it hurts typing like that |
| 09:34.13 | Adys | Kalroth: just make an irc plugin |
| 09:34.41 | olafski | http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/aolbonics |
| 09:34.51 | Adys | .lower().replace([".", ",", ";", "?", "!"], "") |
| 09:34.52 | Adys | \o/ |
| 09:35.00 | olafski | 144 - 73 - 14 - 8 - 236 - ... <-- what goes on the ...? |
| 09:35.18 | Kalroth | Adys: That isn't enough, you have to switch context in the middle of a sentence too |
| 09:35.22 | olafski | adys: .replace("you", "u") |
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| 09:35.43 | olafski | and .replace(".re", "r") |
| 09:35.52 | olafski | eh |
| 09:35.58 | olafski | not .re but 're |
| 09:36.13 | zenzio | it's not that simple olafski |
| 09:36.20 | olafski | yeah I know :( but it's a start |
| 09:36.20 | zenzio | you also need to turn "your" into "you're" |
| 09:36.30 | olafski | nah just "ur" everywhere |
| 09:36.58 | olafski | every ? and ! should be tripled |
| 09:37.03 | Adys | yeah and how do you plan to localize that?! |
| 09:37.13 | olafski | but the more complex ones are harder I guess.. they take practice |
| 09:37.13 | Kalroth | olafski: it is either 96, 118, 119 or 120 |
| 09:37.28 | olafski | kalroth: the options are all 4 of those.. :) |
| 09:37.35 | Kalroth | olafski: I know :P |
| 09:37.48 | olafski | it always annoys me about this kind of test that sometimes two answers seem logical |
| 09:38.27 | olafski | but I guess you googled this one =) |
| 09:38.37 | Kalroth | Just the numbers, not the result :) |
| 09:39.00 | olafski | oO |
| 09:39.18 | olafski | when I google the numbers the first hit is the exact "test" I'm doing |
| 09:39.30 | Kalroth | in Dutch? |
| 09:39.34 | olafski | yeah |
| 09:39.37 | Kalroth | Crazy |
| 09:39.48 | Kalroth | Who can read Dutch anyways |
| 09:39.51 | olafski | I can! |
| 09:40.21 | haste | industrial can as well! |
| 09:40.44 | olafski | I'll enter 119.. that seems right |
| 09:40.48 | Kalroth | hahah |
| 09:40.55 | Kalroth | try to figure it out, sheesh :p |
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| 09:41.49 | olafski | I did! :( |
| 09:41.53 | olafski | just practicing |
| 09:45.24 | olafski | 14/15 correct :@ |
| 09:45.25 | olafski | I suck at this |
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| 09:47.06 | olafski | all this happy hardcore in the "background" doesn't help I bet |
| 09:47.31 | haste | then listen to something else :p ? |
| 09:47.38 | Kalroth | I'm guessing it helped! |
| 09:48.13 | olafski | it's just practice.. I'll turn it off for the real test ;) |
| 09:48.28 | olafski | don't want to appear too smart to a prospective employer anyway ;-) |
| 09:48.32 | haste | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baZ14a2Iu1U this is for the real test! |
| 09:49.41 | olafski | that sounds great |
| 09:49.52 | haste | it's tapage! |
| 09:51.40 | olafski | I see that |
| 09:52.02 | olafski | bleh don't see it on the local network :@ |
| 09:52.45 | Kalroth | olafski: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg52OSGmg7g is more like it |
| 09:52.55 | Kalroth | (to haste too) |
| 09:53.08 | Kalroth | also the video is awesome |
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| 09:55.20 | Wobin | Cairenn, http://view.picapp.com/pictures.photo/news/three-month-old-bear-cub/image/8594059 |
| 09:55.30 | Cairenn | awwwwwwww |
| 09:55.32 | Wobin | http://view.picapp.com/pictures.photo/news/three-month-old-bear-cub/image/8594067 |
| 09:55.36 | olafski | dnb in a tom & jerry vid :P |
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| 09:55.58 | haste | olafski: that isn't dnb |
| 09:56.15 | olafski | oh bleh here we go again with the genres :P |
| 09:56.20 | Kalroth | haha |
| 09:56.32 | olafski | it sounds like it to me so that's what I will call it :P |
| 09:56.49 | haste | it's breakcore, with a touch of modern-classical! |
| 09:56.50 | Kalroth | I think venetian snare is breakcore or trashbreak or something like that |
| 09:56.55 | olafski | psssssssssh |
| 09:57.03 | olafski | I see a lot of letters but all I read is bla bla bla :D |
| 09:57.08 | Kalroth | :( |
| 09:57.10 | olafski | I hate genres =( |
| 09:57.18 | olafski | time for moar tests |
| 09:57.25 | olafski | 6/10 correct in the "difficult words" test |
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| 09:58.00 | olafski | how the hell should I know what a Sadhu is =( |
| 09:58.02 | Kalroth | olafski: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-gY6OJz0-k this is almost dnb, although its a lot more dubby after the remix! |
| 09:58.28 | olafski | Captain Hollywood Project - More and More <-- genre this! |
| 09:58.43 | Kalroth | MTV music |
| 10:00.06 | olafski | nice |
| 10:00.09 | olafski | I can live with that |
| 10:01.21 | haste | Kalroth: see what I said :P |
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| 10:19.34 | zenzio | so... for a post like http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1626738&cid=31935934 - why does Slashdot (in normal article display, not single-comment display) show a "Read the rest of this comment..." after "Stonewolf" - when there is no "more", and you've already been exposed to the wall of text? oO |
| 10:21.48 | sylvanaar_atwork | http://www.joystiq.com/2010/04/21/starcraft-2-beta-invite-with-gamestop-pre-order/ |
| 10:23.58 | sylvanaar_atwork | when are the author invites for cataclysm going out do you guys think? |
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| 10:24.18 | sylvanaar_atwork | 6-8 weeks? |
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| 10:36.37 | industrial | Kalroth: dutch here watcha need |
| 10:37.05 | Kalroth | It wasn't me, I was just surprised that anyone could read Dutch |
| 10:38.24 | industrial | badoom tisch |
| 10:38.41 | Kalroth | Sorry :( |
| 10:38.50 | industrial | np |
| 10:38.58 | industrial | i dinged 23 today so \:D/ i dont care |
| 10:39.14 | Kalroth | Goddamn kids! |
| 10:39.30 | industrial | my char has imba stats |
| 10:39.41 | industrial | <insert epic wield joke> |
| 10:43.00 | industrial | mmm ham & cheese croissants |
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| 11:20.45 | olafski | congratulations meneer industrial |
| 11:20.46 | olafski | :-) |
| 11:23.16 | zenzio | http://www.babybacon.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/kids.jpg |
| 11:33.17 | Cairenn | zenzio: lol |
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| 11:47.03 | Jamash | halp, I are being attacked by a funny dog |
| 11:47.13 | Jamash | oh noes he is licking my face |
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| 11:55.09 | harl | wuff |
| 11:55.34 | Cairenn | purr |
| 11:57.05 | Lopeppeppy | meow |
| 11:57.53 | Kalroth | rawr |
| 12:01.55 | Lopeppeppy | RAWR! |
| 12:02.05 | harl | woof |
| 12:12.41 | Fisker | Lopeppeppy |
| 12:13.30 | Lopeppeppy | *kiss kiss* |
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| 12:43.45 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/cactus.jpg |
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| 12:58.41 | foxlit | You can blink across metropolis base platforms :/ |
| 12:58.46 | foxlit | NEEEERF! |
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| 13:02.49 | Fisker | why does the starcraft 2 editor have a spellchecker? |
| 13:05.51 | Kalroth | becuase ppl r so bad @ speling |
| 13:08.51 | Mikk | FKN NOOOB U SUK OLOL |
| 13:09.00 | Mikk | needs translation, not spellchecking :P |
| 13:11.22 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/simply_europe.jpg |
| 13:12.34 | Fisker | anyone got a starcraft map? |
| 13:13.00 | Kalroth | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=starcraft+map |
| 13:13.07 | Fisker | no Kalroth |
| 13:13.14 | Fisker | COPYRIGHT BITCH |
| 13:13.21 | Fisker | jesus |
| 13:13.27 | Kalroth | copyright bitch? |
| 13:13.38 | Kalroth | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=starcraft+map+copyright+bitch |
| 13:13.50 | Fisker | yeah you know that thing that tells us i can't just steal some random starcraft map |
| 13:13.57 | Fisker | well not specifically starcraft map |
| 13:14.03 | Fisker | but hurrdurr either way |
| 13:14.05 | Kalroth | why would you steal it |
| 13:14.19 | Fisker | because i have to |
| 13:14.47 | Kalroth | no dont do it |
| 13:15.03 | Kalroth | Blizzard will collapse and close their business if you steal a starcraft map |
| 13:15.19 | Fisker | indeed |
| 13:16.40 | Fisker | maybe i should just steal a standard map |
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| 13:16.48 | Kalroth | thief |
| 13:17.06 | Fisker | but the world refused to change Kalroth |
| 13:17.47 | Kalroth | then destroy it and start over |
| 13:18.24 | Fisker | so what map should i steal Kalroth ? |
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| 13:18.52 | Kalroth | an open one where you can't just block zerg rush with 2 buildings |
| 13:20.33 | Fisker | Blizzard is lazy though |
| 13:21.50 | Fisker | though i must say that this conversion tool is rather buggy |
| 13:22.25 | Kalroth | you dont say? |
| 13:25.28 | Fisker | the textures are nice |
| 13:27.19 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc9f-VVQK3k |
| 13:27.49 | Kalroth | Francis hates mikma |
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| 13:32.56 | Fisker | you know what i don't hate? |
| 13:35.20 | Cide | me |
| 13:35.33 | Lopeppeppy | fish |
| 13:35.34 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW0bb2wxH5Y&feature=player_embedded#! |
| 13:35.35 | Wobin | hehe |
| 13:37.26 | Mikk | wobin mah soul buddy |
| 13:37.31 | Mikk | according to flixster anyway |
| 13:37.42 | Wobin | you're your own best friend! |
| 13:37.55 | Fisker | you |
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| 13:38.51 | Wobin | mikma, what's he saying? "I don't hate... " |
| 13:40.33 | Fisker | wat |
| 13:40.50 | Fisker | You can setup SC2 maps to disable replays |
| 13:40.51 | Fisker | O_o |
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| 14:08.48 | cog|away | http://www.blaghag.com/2010/04/in-name-of-science-i-offer-my-boobs.html |
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| 14:11.39 | Wobin | cog|away, http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2219051936&ref=nf&v=info#!/event.php?eid=116336578385346&ref=search&sid=544337198.3473048251..1 |
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| 14:17.54 | Fisker | i am your father Wobin |
| 14:18.34 | Wobin | My father knows how to capitalise correctly. |
| 14:18.43 | Wobin | also punctuate |
| 14:19.05 | Wobin | cause "i am your father Wobin" says that you are my father named Wobin |
| 14:19.08 | Wobin | which you clearly aren't |
| 14:20.04 | Fisker | Wobin |
| 14:21.35 | Fisker | Wobin |
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| 14:24.45 | Cairenn | Mikk: it is applicable, yes |
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| 14:32.33 | Mikk | Cairenn: good then. i hope. |
| 14:32.45 | Cairenn | *hug* |
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| 14:44.31 | olafski | heh. I join a heroic and the hunter goes "omg sucky tank" >_< |
| 14:44.35 | olafski | "srsly look at ur gs" |
| 14:44.46 | Ackis | teabags olafski |
| 14:47.18 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v nicoli_s] by ChanServ |
| 14:47.51 | Ackis | when I type "sin" into my facebook only two people come up: nicoli_s and xinhuan |
| 14:48.35 | Lopeppeppy | Awww. I should come up too. |
| 14:48.44 | Lopeppeppy | Discrimination against redheads, I tell ya. |
| 14:49.03 | Ackis | hehe |
| 14:49.29 | Ackis | so I'm getting the legendary edition of halo reach! |
| 14:50.07 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 14:50.17 | nicoli_s | ackis: gimme yer halo reach beta key |
| 14:50.24 | nicoli_s | especially if you have multiple copies of odst |
| 14:50.30 | Ackis | there is no key |
| 14:50.38 | nicoli_s | there should be |
| 14:50.39 | Ackis | you need to put the ODST disc into the drive to play the beta |
| 14:50.46 | nicoli_s | really? boo |
| 14:51.30 | Wobin | olafski, don't you love pugs? |
| 14:52.00 | Cide | Ackis: I only get this weird repeating line going up and down |
| 14:52.03 | Wobin | olafski, Personally, I'd tank every mob but the one the hunter is focussing on |
| 14:52.09 | Wobin | then blame being a 'sucky' tank |
| 14:52.21 | Wobin | and ask the healer not to heal the hunter |
| 14:54.50 | Ackis | Cide: what? |
| 14:55.06 | Cide | math fail |
| 14:55.50 | Maldivia | did a dungeon with a hunter, who seemed to think distracting shot should be part of his rotation... |
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| 14:57.00 | Wobin | Maldivia, did you teach him it wasn't? |
| 14:57.24 | Cide | why would he? it is... |
| 14:57.44 | Wobin | pats Cide |
| 14:57.59 | Wobin | Go sit in the corner again |
| 14:58.15 | Wobin | puts the huntard hat on Cide |
| 14:58.17 | olafski | wobin: totally love pugs :) nobody died, I hardly lost aggro.. but that hunter is going on ignore, even though at the end he said I did fine |
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| 14:59.10 | Maldivia | Wobin: tried, but failed |
| 14:59.55 | Maldivia | Wobin: ended up making a taunt macro, which taunted from him :P |
| 15:00.16 | Wobin | Maldivia, eh, why bother =P You're just enabling him to be Cidish =P |
| 15:00.53 | Wobin | although, if he feign deaths after each distracting shot, then that's fine |
| 15:03.36 | Mikk | Ackis: ITYM "you need to load the ODST disc image in DAEMONtools" |
| 15:04.06 | Ackis | not sure if that would work |
| 15:04.14 | Mikk | whyever wouldn't it |
| 15:04.15 | Ackis | you need a modded console which xbox live detects |
| 15:04.23 | Ackis | and then they'd ban your console ID |
| 15:04.27 | Ackis | so you couldn't play on live |
| 15:04.31 | Mikk | ah xbox |
| 15:04.33 | Mikk | nm me |
| 15:04.36 | Ackis | :P |
| 15:04.39 | mikma | http://www.rationalcraft.com/Winscape.html |
| 15:05.06 | Mikk | pfff console gamers in #WoWUIDev .. what's the world comign to ... |
| 15:06.05 | Ackis | hehe |
| 15:06.58 | olafski | I thought you could mod them such that xbox live doesn't detect it? |
| 15:07.04 | olafski | not much into this stuff though |
| 15:08.34 | Wobin | mikma, I love how they use the baby |
| 15:09.29 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
| 15:09.55 | Ackis | hey Fisker |
| 15:10.15 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
| 15:10.54 | Ackis | hey Fisker |
| 15:11.22 | Wobin | hey Abbbbbooooottt |
| 15:14.37 | Fisker | hey Ackis |
| 15:15.18 | Fisker | goat milk Ackis |
| 15:15.19 | Fisker | goooooooat |
| 15:16.42 | mikma | wobin: i love the space-view |
| 15:20.39 | Fisker | i believe so olafski |
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| 15:36.44 | Lopeppeppy | Ow. I think I need to move, I've been sitting still since 7:30. Ow. |
| 15:39.12 | Mikk | recommends smoking. Outside. |
| 15:39.16 | Mikk | Works wonders for me! |
| 15:43.32 | Lopeppeppy | Outside maybe, smoking, no. |
| 15:47.12 | Cairenn | sparks one up |
| 15:48.06 | Fisker | what is your dps Cairenn ? |
| 15:48.20 | Cairenn | haven't a clue |
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| 15:51.08 | Cairenn | station |
| 15:51.16 | Lunessa | station! |
| 15:51.27 | Lunessa | huggels Cairenn. |
| 15:51.29 | Fisker | busstop |
| 15:51.35 | Fisker | and it's huggle not huggels |
| 15:51.36 | Cairenn | cuddles Lunessa |
| 15:51.54 | Lunessa | Fisker: FUUUUUUUUU :P |
| 15:52.22 | Lopeppeppy | cuddles up too. What a world, what a world! |
| 15:52.32 | Cairenn | snuggles Lopeppeppy |
| 15:52.38 | Lunessa | is blissful despite the waning migraine. |
| 15:52.47 | Cairenn | :( |
| 15:52.59 | Cairenn | massages Lunessa's temples |
| 15:53.45 | Lunessa | purrs. |
| 15:54.26 | Lopeppeppy | ugh for headaches! |
| 15:55.05 | Lunessa | I took the day off yesterday, loaded up a vicodin and slept for something like 12 hours. |
| 15:55.26 | Cairenn | =/ |
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| 16:00.37 | Lunessa | Sleep = good though, right? |
| 16:01.30 | Cairenn | indeed |
| 16:01.31 | DWSR | http://video.ign.com/dor/articles/958530/best-of-the-web/videos/bestofweb_prt_masterchief_41910.html?show=hi |
| 16:01.33 | DWSR | WIN |
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| 16:04.31 | Zyn | at least you didn't have a dental surgery like me yesterday ... I'm eating painkillers like candy atm |
| 16:04.47 | Fisker | so boring that my cat turned over and fell asleep DWSR |
| 16:05.45 | Cairenn | hugs Zyn |
| 16:05.58 | Cairenn | hands Zyn an ice pack |
| 16:06.22 | Zyn | puts the ice in his coctail of various drugs |
| 16:06.28 | Cairenn | heh |
| 16:06.53 | DWSR | Fisker: You don't have a cat. |
| 16:07.25 | DWSR | Zyn: I had my wisdom teeth removed. Holy crap. |
| 16:07.33 | Zyn | I had that as well |
| 16:07.34 | DWSR | Knocked me flat on my ass for like 3 days. |
| 16:07.37 | Zyn | 3 removals |
| 16:07.43 | DWSR | I had 4. All impacted. |
| 16:08.09 | DWSR | They didn't put me under general though. |
| 16:08.12 | Zyn | actually 4 removals, 3 were wisdom-teeth and a fuckton of repairs .. best thing yet : they're not done, I have to go back there on 12th May |
| 16:08.16 | DWSR | Which was probably for the best. |
| 16:08.18 | Zyn | more drugs and narcosis |
| 16:08.28 | Lunessa | Yeah, oral surgery is massively painful. |
| 16:08.48 | DWSR | Worst part is that you can't freaking EAT. |
| 16:09.03 | Zyn | and I'm feeling the side-effect of narcosis : getting a cold |
| 16:09.16 | Zyn | already got cold sores |
| 16:10.15 | Lunessa | sympathizes. |
| 16:12.12 | Fisker | oh but i do DWSR |
| 16:12.19 | Adys | ~wowiquotes |
| 16:12.20 | purl | http://www.teomyr.eu/wowuidev/irc-quotes |
| 16:16.23 | Ackis | Fisker: you quit wow yet? |
| 16:16.47 | Lunessa | *cough* Ladies, I recommend you show your support for Boobquake: http://www.news.com.au/technology/boobquake-determined-to-prove-cleric-wrong/story-e6frfro0-1225856787031 |
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| 16:18.08 | Fisker | no Ackis |
| 16:18.09 | Fisker | never |
| 16:18.50 | Fisker | but it's true Lunessa |
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| 16:19.19 | Lunessa | Fisker: All I know is that a righteous pair can make me think the Earth moved. |
| 16:19.19 | DWSR | Lun: Win. |
| 16:19.22 | DWSR | Lunessa: Win |
| 16:19.43 | Ackis | ~Lunessa++ |
| 16:19.52 | Jamash | what |
| 16:20.05 | Ackis | boobies are the devil |
| 16:20.14 | Jamash | oh, breasts |
| 16:20.19 | Ackis | I pretended one of my fiancees last night was a laser gun |
| 16:20.23 | Ackis | she was less than impressed |
| 16:20.26 | Jamash | haha |
| 16:21.27 | Lunessa | Ackis: At this rate, how long before she hands you back the ring? |
| 16:21.50 | Ackis | I've tried taking it off of her, but she won't let me :( |
| 16:22.37 | Lunessa | Ackis: WIN! |
| 16:23.09 | Ackis | she'll do something silly so I'll try to grab it, and then we'll tussle and then start tickling each other :( |
| 16:23.25 | Jamash | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:25.50 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, if I could do that at work, I would. I'll think of something... |
| 16:26.24 | Lunessa | I support Boobquake. I'm a hands on kind of supporter. :) |
| 16:26.45 | Lopeppeppy | I sort of guessed you would be. |
| 16:26.55 | Lunessa | :D |
| 16:28.11 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: did you see the silly thing Sam's doing? http://www.facebook.com/?ref=home#!/notes/sam-lantinga/looking-for-lolboobs/416330480126 |
| 16:28.34 | Cairenn | (speaking of boobs) |
| 16:30.31 | Lopeppeppy | They have to be mine, huh? Let me see what I can do for him... |
| 16:30.46 | Maldivia | hmmmm |
| 16:31.15 | Shadowed | looking for lolboobs? |
| 16:31.17 | Shadowed | what is this madness |
| 16:31.19 | Fisker | bah |
| 16:31.19 | Ackis | http://twitter.com/pondertheworld/status/12648355891 |
| 16:31.21 | Ackis | lulz |
| 16:31.28 | Fisker | you wouldn't use facebook |
| 16:32.02 | Fisker | noooo Ackis |
| 16:32.18 | Fisker | stop right there criminal scum |
| 16:32.33 | Ackis | stop right now, thank you very much. I need someone with a human touch? |
| 16:33.38 | Fisker | NO! |
| 16:36.17 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/e5ydf.gif |
| 16:37.06 | Fisker | i saw what they did there |
| 16:39.41 | Lopeppeppy | There, I contributed to Sam's misdemeanors. |
| 16:40.19 | Fisker | sauce |
| 16:40.23 | Fisker | saaaaaaaaaauceeeeeeeeeeee |
| 16:41.38 | Cairenn | lol |
| 16:42.11 | Fisker | :( |
| 16:42.21 | Fisker | can't even see what it's all about |
| 16:42.40 | Shadowed | No Fisker allowed |
| 16:45.07 | Fisker | well i'm allowed |
| 16:45.10 | Fisker | but it's facebook |
| 16:45.25 | Shadowed | Nope, no Fisker allowed |
| 16:45.29 | Lopeppeppy | The picture I used was already on Facebook, so you're not missing anything. |
| 16:46.22 | Fisker | well i am since i don't use facebook :( |
| 16:47.01 | durcyn | facebook is evil, therefore, |
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| 16:48.59 | olafski | it seems I'm missing something since I couldn't click the link of what this sam is doing! |
| 16:49.21 | Lopeppeppy | Misdemeanors |
| 16:49.29 | olafski | I see |
| 16:49.35 | olafski | sounds like a badguy from C.O.P.S. |
| 16:49.51 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, more wicked than bad. |
| 16:49.58 | olafski | :) |
| 16:50.19 | olafski | oh and I didn't mean I couldn't click it, but it redirected me to the index page |
| 16:50.27 | Lopeppeppy | your'e not logged in then. |
| 16:50.36 | olafski | I am =( |
| 16:50.37 | Shadowed | No it did that for me too Lopeppeppy |
| 16:50.43 | olafski | maybe it's information that I'm not allowed to see |
| 16:50.48 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, he's protecting my innocence! |
| 16:51.01 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, hush. |
| 16:51.05 | Shadowed | Wouldn't that imply there is something to protect! |
| 16:51.13 | Lopeppeppy | Shadowed, shut it. :P |
| 16:51.22 | Shadowed | Hey, you only told Lunessa to be quite |
| 16:51.44 | Lopeppeppy | You didn't learn from his gentle warning. |
| 16:51.51 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Sorry, I was thinking about your innocence and then I went to my "happy Place" |
| 16:52.00 | Shadowed | Well he didn't learn either! |
| 16:52.43 | Lunessa | Shadowed: The lesson you failed to learn is that her comment was a direct incitement. |
| 16:52.54 | Shadowed | True, I should be more subtle next time |
| 16:54.01 | Shadowed | I'll keep this in mind |
| 16:58.32 | Fisker | grr |
| 16:58.52 | Fisker | stupid smart cat can open my door :( |
| 16:59.31 | Ackis | turns the knob and everything? |
| 17:00.03 | Shadowed | Sisters cat tried to open the handled doors by jumping on them and using his weight to turn the handle |
| 17:00.35 | olafski | saw a cat that did tha ttoo |
| 17:00.39 | Fisker | well it's not a knob Ackis |
| 17:00.49 | Fisker | but yeah it can push down on the handle and open the door |
| 17:00.50 | olafski | its owners fixed it by rotating the handles 90 degrees so they pointed upwards |
| 17:00.57 | Fisker | one of the other cats can almost open a window |
| 17:01.00 | Shadowed | Dogs did the same thing |
| 17:01.16 | Fisker | The only reason why it can't is because the window is too heavy to push open |
| 17:08.41 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh8VfFH78jY#t=5m15s |
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| 17:12.46 | Gintaro | "How do you add GS" ...... |
| 17:12.48 | Gintaro | wtf |
| 17:12.56 | Gintaro | He failed as a player |
| 17:13.12 | Gintaro | Not because he doesn't know, but because he wants to know |
| 17:14.15 | Adys | http://youtube-global.blogspot.com/2010/04/content-id-and-fair-use.html |
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| 17:15.57 | Fisker | they already had this |
| 17:17.23 | Fisker | content id should just be taken down |
| 17:17.26 | Fisker | DMCA or gtfo |
| 17:22.40 | Lopeppeppy | 1230 courses to approve. By hand. Individually. FML. |
| 17:23.02 | Shadowed | Lopeppeppy: by hand?! |
| 17:23.57 | Lopeppeppy | 2 clicks each. |
| 17:24.08 | Lopeppeppy | This new catalog program is full of hate. |
| 17:24.14 | Shadowed | Javascript it all? |
| 17:24.41 | Shadowed | Greasemonkey* |
| 17:24.44 | Lopeppeppy | Outsourced program, not ours to script. But I put in a sternly worded suggestion letter to the nice people who produce it. |
| 17:25.04 | Shadowed | I think it's a rule that any program in education is terrible |
| 17:25.07 | Shadowed | especially if outsourced |
| 17:25.25 | Lopeppeppy | It didn't suck until this. It was tedious, but college catalogs are tedious and redundant by nature. |
| 17:25.29 | Lopeppeppy | Today, it sucks. |
| 17:25.50 | Maldivia | getting paied for it - and if so, enough? |
| 17:26.17 | Lopeppeppy | Is my job, but no... two pay cuts and a benefits cut in the last 2 years. |
| 17:26.21 | Lopeppeppy | Still, is a job. |
| 17:28.26 | Lunessa | And with unemployment at 8.5 - 10% - a job is a good thing. |
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| 17:43.06 | Sesshu | http://www.instantsfun.es/ |
| 17:43.25 | Sesshu | click on the "EPIC?!" button please |
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| 17:54.53 | Adys | good night shadowed |
| 17:55.11 | Adys | and Shadowed, answer my caps-infested ping |
| 17:56.32 | Lunessa | *sigh* I really, really, really hate PeopleSoft. |
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| 18:03.00 | Lopeppeppy | 100 pages done, 23 left... |
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| 18:38.21 | alestane | Wow. Seriously? |
| 18:38.41 | Fisker | wow? |
| 18:38.47 | Fisker | want to make out alestane ? |
| 18:39.08 | alestane | That depends. With whom? |
| 18:40.37 | Ackis | with me? |
| 18:40.44 | Fisker | with me? |
| 18:40.51 | alestane | So apparently school policy says that when I print out copies of the final exam, I should number them all with the total number of copies printed and their position in the run: 1/12, 2/12, 3/12 etc. Then when I finish giving the final, I am supposed to check off that I got back every copy of the question sheets by checking them all off. |
| 18:41.46 | alestane | 1/12 reclaimed...check. 2/12 recovered...check. 5..12 turned back in...check. |
| 18:42.31 | alestane | Oh NOES! Copy 7/12 has escaped into the wild! Sound the alarms! Take the curriculum to red alert! We have been compromised! WOOP! WOOP! |
| 18:42.39 | Fisker | woop woop |
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| 18:44.37 | Arrowmaster | alestane: you people still do exams with paper? |
| 18:45.18 | alestane | Because if I don't prove that I've collected all the question sheets back, some student must have taken one home to scan and email to all the other students at the other branches of the school and they'll all smuggle it in and THE EXAM WILL BE MEANINGLESS! NOOOOOoooooooo.......... |
| 18:45.50 | alestane | Arrowmaster: You seem to have mistaken us for Pearson/VUE or soemthing. |
| 18:46.00 | Fisker | uh alestane |
| 18:46.13 | Fisker | just wondering if it's bizarro world over there? |
| 18:46.32 | alestane | Do you wonder if perhaps I'm not treating this with the proper seriousness? |
| 18:46.48 | Arrowmaster | alestane: what kinda classes do you teach? |
| 18:47.03 | Fisker | I'm just wondering why you don't have a different exam for each exam |
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| 18:47.26 | alestane | Multimedia and Game Design, Arrowmaster. |
| 18:47.43 | Fisker | Besides cheating is cool |
| 18:47.49 | Fisker | you always get away with it |
| 18:48.00 | alestane | The school is built around standardized curricula, Fisker, which includes standardized finals. |
| 18:48.04 | Arrowmaster | so computer stuff, all my CIS classes in college have been doing online exams for a few years |
| 18:48.12 | Fisker | i know alestane |
| 18:48.21 | Fisker | well i don't but anyway |
| 18:48.35 | Fisker | But the next final won't be the same exam right? |
| 18:48.38 | Arrowmaster | alestane: ah, yeah at my college the teachers just do their own stuff so everybody has their own exams |
| 18:49.13 | alestane | That would require them to hire people with a background in education and pay them a real salary, Arrowmaster. |
| 18:49.41 | Arrowmaster | if every class for a certain subject uses the exact same exam i could see why they would want to try to put a little more effort into keeping them secret |
| 18:49.41 | Fisker | i thought teachers were just homeless guys |
| 18:50.05 | Arrowmaster | alestane: most of my teachers DO NOT have a background in education |
| 18:50.26 | alestane | A given course, like IT302, uses the same exam every quarter, at every branch, until the school concludes that it has been compromised. |
| 18:50.46 | Arrowmaster | infact quite a few of them have actually been civilians that work on the largest airforce base in the US |
| 18:50.57 | Arrowmaster | thinks its still the largest base |
| 18:51.11 | Ackis | area 51?!?! |
| 18:51.24 | Arrowmaster | no but there is a hanger 18 |
| 18:51.53 | Fisker | omfg alestane |
| 18:51.56 | Fisker | that's retarded |
| 18:52.12 | alestane | That way we know that all the students have been tested against the same standards. |
| 18:52.13 | Arrowmaster | and other really cool shit like hidden door in the side of the hill that the stealth bombers come out of |
| 18:54.17 | Arrowmaster | alestane: so your school is something like Fullsail? a few of the guys i went to highschool with went there |
| 18:54.29 | alestane | ITT Technical Institute. |
| 18:54.41 | alestane | Something like, but not quite as cool. |
| 18:54.49 | Arrowmaster | not quite as specialized |
| 18:55.05 | Lunessa | And been around a lot longer. |
| 18:55.52 | Arrowmaster | cousin went to ITT |
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| 19:20.17 | Legorol | hm, if i can believe all this spam i'm getting, my account gets hacked, suspended and terminated 3 times a day at least |
| 19:20.20 | Legorol | strange i can still log in |
| 19:21.02 | Lunessa | OH NOES! U hafta log on to verifies ur accont nao or you will be kicked off WoW. |
| 19:21.22 | Lunessa | I can't believe the number of people who fall for that crap. |
| 19:22.01 | Thunder_Child | i can |
| 19:22.24 | Lunessa | Actually, I should say ... "I exceptionally disappointed that people fall for that crap." |
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| 19:31.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: you should probably say "I am.." :P |
| 19:31.18 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: Yes, I should. |
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| 19:38.02 | Cide | grr |
| 19:38.05 | Cide | java question |
| 19:39.25 | Cide | maybe my design is wrong but we'll see what you think |
| 19:39.39 | Cide | I have a player interface, and two separate classes that implement it |
| 19:39.47 | Cide | one of the classes also implements another interface |
| 19:40.06 | Cide | in one part of the program I need to be able to use either class interchangably |
| 19:41.02 | Cide | in another part I need to use the class that implements the other interface |
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| 19:41.34 | Cide | this is confusing |
| 19:41.53 | Cide | maybe I need to hack it with Object |
| 19:42.20 | olafski | why do you have to hack it with object? |
| 19:42.37 | Cide | because the part of the program that needs the class that implements another interface ALSO needs to conform to an interface |
| 19:42.39 | olafski | sounds like in the worst case you'd have to cast it or use instanceof |
| 19:42.47 | Cide | for instance |
| 19:43.00 | Cide | class A implements Player, Foo |
| 19:43.03 | Cide | class B implements Player |
| 19:43.14 | alestane | Brussels sprouts turn out to be excellent glazed with maple syrup and a little Dijon mustard. |
| 19:43.22 | Cide | interface Foo { public Iterator<Player> getPlayerIterator(); } |
| 19:43.37 | Lunessa | alestane: I will have to disagree. I can't STAND them. |
| 19:43.49 | olafski | yeah I guess if you want to use the getPlayerIterator() method you'd have to cast it to (Foo) first |
| 19:44.04 | Cide | class C implements Foo { ArrayList<A> bleh; /* cannot implement getPlayerIterator() because A.iterator() is of type Iterator<A> */ } |
| 19:44.19 | alestane | They do seem to be the least loved of the cruciferous vegatables, Lunessa. |
| 19:44.33 | olafski | hmmm |
| 19:44.45 | Lunessa | alestane: It's the smell. It nauseates me. |
| 19:45.00 | Cide | and (Iterator<Player>)bleh.iterator(); doesn't compile |
| 19:45.05 | olafski | why do you implement Foo if you can't implement all of its methods? you could also just implement that method and put a throw new UnsupportedOperationException() in there |
| 19:45.16 | Cide | I can implement it |
| 19:45.20 | Cide | but I can't compile it |
| 19:45.24 | Cide | since they are of incompatible types |
| 19:45.26 | alestane | Certain people are sensitive to a chemical in that family that they perceive as very bitter. |
| 19:45.58 | Cide | here's the essential problem: |
| 19:46.34 | Cide | interface A { }; interface B { public Iterator<A> foo(); } class C implements A { }; |
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| 19:47.09 | Cide | er |
| 19:47.14 | Cide | clsas C implements A, SomeOtherInterface {} |
| 19:47.20 | Cide | I cannot implement interface B by implementing Iterator<A> foo(); and return C.iterator() since C is not A |
| 19:47.22 | foxlit | (a) You've tried to perform too many group actions in a short time. |
| 19:47.26 | foxlit | (b) Constant table overflow |
| 19:47.28 | foxlit | :( |
| 19:48.06 | olafski | hm no clue then cide, sorry.. I'd say anything that wants an A should also accept a C |
| 19:48.13 | Cide | exactly |
| 19:48.18 | alestane | Also, Lunessa, I've found many vegetables my family used to serve me steamed to be rather less objectionable when they're roasted or pan-fried instead. |
| 19:48.20 | olafski | so likewise Iterator<A> should accept Iterator<C> |
| 19:48.27 | olafski | maybe krka knows, he knows everything about Java :) |
| 19:48.31 | Cide | krka: ping |
| 19:48.53 | Lunessa | alestane: Yeah, the 70s and 80s were a trying time to eat veggies, because they all got cooked into mush. |
| 19:49.22 | olafski | that's horrible :P |
| 19:49.26 | olafski | I love them crisp |
| 19:49.33 | olafski | brussels sprouts are great too imo =) |
| 19:49.41 | alestane | That's why I despised zucchini for years. |
| 19:49.46 | mitchnull | cide: can't you store stuff as ArrayList<A> ? |
| 19:49.55 | olafski | pan fry sprouts with some balsamico |
| 19:50.59 | Cide | mitchnull: no, since a function expects SomeOtherInterface |
| 19:51.09 | Cide | external function that I have no control over I might add |
| 19:51.20 | Cide | I could unsafely cast it, /shrug |
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| 19:51.48 | olafski | hm |
| 19:52.09 | olafski | unsafe cast can always be replaced by instanceof+safecast+exception I guess? |
| 19:52.20 | Cide | no idea, I don't do much java |
| 19:52.48 | olafski | well, A instanceof B is pretty much a "can I cast A to B?" |
| 19:53.02 | Cide | right |
| 19:53.04 | olafski | so after that you can cast.. if not you can throw an exception or do something else that seems useful |
| 19:53.05 | Cide | but I'd be casting up, not down |
| 19:53.12 | Cide | I think? |
| 19:53.16 | foxlit | "You have attempted too many group actions in a short period of time. Please wait momentarily before attempting further group actions." |
| 19:53.22 | olafski | I think the same method would still work |
| 19:53.34 | foxlit | To add insult to injury, the message itself is spammed at you |
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| 19:54.25 | olafski | but if you're sure it will be castable to whatever you're casting to anyway you can probably just do a cast right away ;) |
| 19:54.48 | Maldivia | Cide: considered using wildcard-generics instead, they are there to solve that problem |
| 19:54.58 | Cide | how so? |
| 19:55.14 | Maldivia | Iterator<? extends Player> getPlayerInstances() |
| 19:55.19 | Cide | in the interface? |
| 19:55.22 | Maldivia | yeahg |
| 19:55.44 | olafski | I never understood that.. if you use Iterator<Player> does it not accept iterators of objects that extend Player? |
| 19:55.53 | Maldivia | no |
| 19:55.55 | olafski | hmm |
| 19:56.03 | olafski | seems counterintuitive.. but I guess there's a reason for it |
| 19:56.03 | Cide | that's golden |
| 19:56.05 | Cide | thanks Maldivia |
| 19:56.49 | Maldivia | olafski: the problem is, you would be able to insert the wrong type then |
| 19:57.02 | olafski | hm |
| 19:57.21 | olafski | I really should follow the generics trail in the sun tutorial.. I only used generic collections, never really "wrote" something generic |
| 19:57.24 | Maldivia | olafski: consider List<Player> getPlayer() {return new ArrayList<MyPlayer>() }; getPlayer.add(new MySecondPlayer()); |
| 19:58.18 | olafski | I don't get what the problem is |
| 19:58.24 | olafski | if they both extend Player that would do what I expect |
| 19:58.39 | Maldivia | but the List is actually a ArrayList<MyPlayer> |
| 19:59.03 | Maldivia | so when the owner of the list access it, and expects to find a MyPlayer, it gets a MySecondPlayer |
| 19:59.06 | olafski | sure but if you get() something from it, it'll be a Player so you can't use any of MyPlayer's methods |
| 19:59.20 | olafski | the owner shouldn't expect a MyPlayer though since he specified a List<Player>? |
| 19:59.57 | ZorbaTHut | the owner, as in the original creator of the ArrayList<MyPlayer> |
| 20:00.04 | Maldivia | class A { private ArrayList<MyPlayer> players; public List<Player> getPlayers() { return players; } private manipulate() players.get(0).myPlayerMethod() } } |
| 20:00.09 | ZorbaTHut | assume that instead of just returning a new list, he stashes it somewhere and does something with it |
| 20:00.38 | olafski | hmhm |
| 20:01.10 | olafski | bleh I feel stupid :P |
| 20:01.13 | olafski | I'll just go read the tutorial |
| 20:01.25 | foxlit | The generic trail is nice, yeah. |
| 20:02.52 | mikma | http://roflspiders.wordpress.com/ |
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| 20:04.56 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2010/04/steve_woz_pees_off_the_back_of.php |
| 20:04.59 | mikma | epic |
| 20:05.06 | mikma | pure, pure epic |
| 20:05.43 | Ackis | i clicked the link |
| 20:05.44 | Ackis | why |
| 20:05.47 | Ackis | did I do that |
| 20:05.55 | Ackis | i have a fear of spiders |
| 20:05.58 | Maldivia | shouldn't you know better by now? |
| 20:06.01 | Ackis | and will not be sleeping tonight |
| 20:06.10 | Ackis | ~mikma-- |
| 20:06.56 | mikma | which one made you go apeshit? the segway or the spiders? |
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| 20:08.13 | Ackis | spiders |
| 20:08.36 | mikma | you lose. |
| 20:09.05 | Cide | rofl |
| 20:09.40 | Ackis | I want to cry |
| 20:10.05 | olafski | think I get it now maldivia / zorbathut :) |
| 20:10.31 | Maldivia | :P |
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| 20:10.46 | olafski | In general, if Foo is a subtype (subclass or subinterface) of Bar, and G is some generic type declaration, it is not the case that G<Foo> is a subtype of G<Bar>. This is probably the hardest thing you need to learn about generics, because it goes against our deeply held intuitions. <-- that :) |
| 20:11.14 | mikma | ackis: go ahead, cuz, you know, crying will make you even more manly |
| 20:11.27 | ZorbaTHut | yep, that sounds about right :) |
| 20:11.29 | Ackis | takes a real man to cry :P |
| 20:12.02 | alestane | Raindrops from your eyes, washing all the mad out of you. |
| 20:13.07 | mikma | real man... afaik the crying men have come out of the closet |
| 20:15.55 | alestane | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqFuhCfb3Fk |
| 20:19.56 | foxlit | http://us.starcraft2.com/launcher/patch-notes.htm << moo! |
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| 20:20.52 | Maldivia | wee, editor |
| 20:24.33 | foxlit | Find it interesting that they went to the trouble of changing non-protoss hotkeys to not conflict with a protoss "select all warpgates" button |
| 20:26.54 | foxlit | There are far more annoying issues with playing two races than that :/ |
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| 20:30.18 | Ackis | I hate you alestane |
| 20:30.34 | augustl | is is possible to "unregister" an OnUpdate? |
| 20:30.37 | Ackis | I've had raindrops keep falling on my head, stuck in my head for 20 minutes almost |
| 20:30.44 | Cide | augustl: yes |
| 20:31.06 | augustl | also, is there something better to use than OnUpdate when I don't need to do something every frame draw but rather 10-ish times a second? |
| 20:31.15 | augustl | Cide: SetScript("OnUpdate", nil) perhaps? |
| 20:31.28 | Cide | no |
| 20:31.30 | Cide | that would be so illogical |
| 20:31.34 | augustl | idd :) |
| 20:31.53 | Cide | unfortunately there aren't tons of resources around to tell you that kind of stuff |
| 20:32.09 | augustl | I'm trying to find it on the api on wowprogramming.com |
| 20:32.47 | augustl | currently it looks something like this: EVENT_FRAME:SetScript("OnUpdate", function () if doTheThing then ... end end) |
| 20:32.57 | augustl | works, but it's probably better to tell the engine to not run the function at all |
| 20:33.03 | augustl | so how do I do that? |
| 20:34.45 | Cide | have you even tried your own suggestion? |
| 20:35.00 | augustl | no, and you said no as well, so I thought it probably doesn't work |
| 20:35.16 | augustl | sarcastic comment was sarcastic? |
| 20:35.19 | Cide | how foolish of you to even listen to me |
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| 20:42.20 | alestane | I take no responsibility for the fact that one song made you get a completely different song stuck in your head, Ackis. |
| 20:42.54 | krka | Cide: still have that java question? |
| 20:42.57 | augustl | Cide: I should have known :) |
| 20:45.55 | Cide | krka: no, Maldivia solved it with <? extends Foo> |
| 20:45.57 | Cide | thanks though |
| 20:46.09 | krka | cool |
| 20:48.58 | alestane | Twice now this tank has wiped the group in Heroic Pit by backing up to get charge room, into the second pull of vrykul. |
| 20:49.53 | Maldivia | charge room... why? |
| 20:50.17 | alestane | Not clear on that part. Rage generation maybe. |
| 20:50.35 | Maldivia | interrupt? |
| 20:50.55 | Maldivia | tell him to back the other way then :P |
| 20:51.02 | Dagmar | Go *down* the hill, not up it |
| 20:51.42 | alestane | I did just encourage this exact change in behavior. |
| 20:53.19 | Maldivia | errare humanum est, sed perseverare diabolicum :) |
| 20:53.59 | mikma | ackis: http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/original.gif |
| 20:54.05 | alestane | Particularly when you persevere at your errors. |
| 20:54.25 | Ackis | :P |
| 21:00.49 | durcyn | http://i.imgur.com/YZeFm.jpg yep. |
| 21:02.16 | Ackis | who charges like that durcyn? telco is a coming or generic name/ |
| 21:02.45 | durcyn | no one yet, that's the point |
| 21:02.59 | durcyn | that's the logical conclusion of letting ISPs shit all over net neutrality |
| 21:03.48 | Dagmar | I'll be taking "Mystery Encrypted Traffic Package" for +0$ |
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| 21:08.47 | Gnarfoz | except they won't route that traffic >:( |
| 21:09.05 | Gnarfoz | I should probably say "wouldn't", lest someone actually implement that kind of payment scheme |
| 21:11.23 | Ackis | I wonder how much the 4chan package would be |
| 21:13.29 | Lunessa | eleventy-billion dollars. |
| 21:14.41 | Lunessa | They left off a tier. |
| 21:15.26 | Lunessa | + $69.99 The Porn Pipe - All the adult content we can legally show in your jurisdiction |
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| 21:16.20 | DWSR | $69.69* |
| 21:16.35 | foxlit | Hey, Fisker |
| 21:16.41 | Kraps | the yankees just turned a triple-play |
| 21:16.42 | Lunessa | DWSR for the extra lulz |
| 21:18.33 | foxlit | Looks like the new european arena tournament ToU allows denmark. |
| 21:18.45 | foxlit | You can now complain about your total lack of skill in arenas, Fisker. |
| 21:18.53 | Kraps | agility doesnt give hit right? |
| 21:19.08 | foxlit | only hit gives hit |
| 21:20.24 | ZorbaTHut | and soon, spirit (with the right talents) |
| 21:20.57 | Kraps | grats on getting The Dedicated Few Lunessa |
| 21:21.15 | Lunessa | Thanks. :) Happened while you were logged out last night. |
| 21:21.41 | Kraps | what spec were you? |
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| 21:26.13 | foxlit | lua> t = {1,2,3,4,5,6} print(("%d %d %d):format(unpack(t,4,6))); |
| 21:26.13 | lua_bot | foxlit: luabot:1: unfinished string near '<eof>' |
| 21:26.18 | foxlit | lua> t = {1,2,3,4,5,6} print(("%d %d %d"):format(unpack(t,4,6))); |
| 21:26.19 | lua_bot | foxlit: 4 5 6 |
| 21:26.29 | foxlit | lua> t = {1,2,3,4,5,6} print(("%d %d %d"):format(unpack(t,4))); |
| 21:26.30 | lua_bot | foxlit: 4 5 6 |
| 21:30.26 | Kraps | Lunessa: do you have some kind of enhance guide you read? |
| 21:31.21 | Lunessa | Kraps, I read the math on Elitist Jerks and argued a lot with Rouncer in beta/alpha for TBC and WotLK |
| 21:31.42 | Kraps | whos rouncer? |
| 21:31.59 | Lunessa | He's the EJ shaman "guru" |
| 21:32.36 | Lunessa | While I disagree with him on several points, his articles in the enhancement section are well researched and the math is good. |
| 21:33.28 | alestane | You mean people can actually disagree with EJ gurus? That's allowed? |
| 21:34.11 | Dagmar | It's allowed, it just doesn't happen often. |
| 21:34.29 | Lunessa | http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t20765-shaman_enhancement/ |
| 21:34.32 | Dagmar | ...at least, not by people able to string a coherent sentence together. |
| 21:34.47 | Lunessa | Dagmar: Are you saying I can't string a sentence together? |
| 21:36.38 | Mikk | I read that as "they're actually seldom wrong" |
| 21:37.07 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/t/24401853599/cata-request-airship-to-the-face/ |
| 21:37.10 | Dagmar | Lunessa: We already know you're a minority case |
| 21:41.49 | Kraps | ugh, math |
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| 21:44.25 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: does QA somehow expose the list of necessary materials in the crafting queue window? I'm getting sick of using it as a shopping list and switching back and forth between my tradeskill window and the NPC window (because both can't be open at the same time) |
| 21:44.36 | Shadowed | not really |
| 21:44.50 | Gnarfoz | sadface |
| 21:45.14 | Lunessa | Kraps: http://elitistjerks.com/f47/t20765-shaman_enhancement/ - this is a good read. |
| 21:45.35 | Kraps | Lunessa: reading it now :) |
| 21:47.57 | Lunessa | And, while I see a lot of shaman stacking Atk Pwr, I tend to favor stacking Agility for the ancillary benefits of +Crit and Dodge. I don't think - at T9 or T10 levels that either way is wrong. |
| 21:48.28 | Dagmar | At that level it seems a bit like you might as well go with what the gear is doing |
| 21:48.42 | Fisker | btw foxlit |
| 21:48.53 | Fisker | they made the arena tournament (or arena pass) available to dk dkdkdkdk |
| 21:48.59 | Lunessa | I socket mostly for agility instead of straight AP. |
| 21:49.01 | Fisker | so 1 billion - 0 |
| 21:49.17 | foxlit | l2read, Fisker. |
| 21:49.25 | Fisker | no foxlit ? |
| 21:49.58 | Kraps | Lunessa: 16% hit, right? |
| 21:50.04 | Kraps | melee hit |
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| 21:50.32 | Lunessa | Kraps - I'm "over" on hit. But yeah, less for you since you're a goat. |
| 21:50.52 | Gnarfoz | 17% is the spellhit cap against +3, though. |
| 21:51.38 | Kraps | Lunessa: armory says you're just under 16% |
| 21:52.23 | Lunessa | Yeah from gear. :) I have a 1% bonus just for being me. |
| 21:52.23 | Kraps | yeah :p |
| 21:52.28 | Lunessa | And I'm ignoring raid comp since I can't count on bonuses from others. |
| 21:52.47 | Kraps | but you need 16 for dw right? |
| 21:53.11 | Gnarfoz | melee would be base (5%) + dw penalty (19%) + +3 level difference (3%) |
| 21:53.25 | Lunessa | Yes, so that your "Yellow" attacks don't end up with miss results. Get Tekkub's IdHitThat. |
| 21:53.30 | Gnarfoz | -anything you have in terms of racials (Draenei), talents and equipment |
| 21:54.15 | Gnarfoz | melee specials should only require base + level diff, regardless of dw or not |
| 21:54.17 | Lunessa | You mostly only need to get to "Spell Hit" cap for Lightning Bolt. |
| 21:54.40 | Lunessa | Anything you get over that is gravy, but not a priority. |
| 21:54.44 | Gnarfoz | well, that's 17% against +3 *shrug* (again, -anything you have that reduces that) |
| 21:55.25 | Gnarfoz | "hit rating" scaling differently for melee and spell hit is kind of counter-intuitive ;\ |
| 21:55.46 | Lunessa | I'm not trying to get to "remove dual-wield penalty" that way lies madness. |
| 21:56.16 | Gnarfoz | for shaman, that might well be |
| 21:56.37 | Kraps | ah |
| 21:57.04 | Lunessa | I'm very effective, though I could use some more expertise. |
| 21:58.47 | Lunessa | Or not, if Shadowed's math is correct. :) |
| 21:58.52 | Shadowed | my math is always right |
| 21:58.54 | Shadowed | HOW DARE YOU |
| 21:58.55 | Shadowed | what math? |
| 21:59.27 | Lunessa | Ahh... wait, he has me cached in PVP gear. |
| 21:59.53 | Lunessa | A quick refresh fixes that. |
| 22:00.18 | Shadowed | It's Antiarc's fault if it's wrong for the record |
| 22:00.22 | Shadowed | he told me 26/6.50 |
| 22:00.41 | Lunessa | No, he's right. |
| 22:01.10 | Antiarc | wait what |
| 22:01.23 | NightHawkTheSane | Antiarc is pretty much always right, isnt it? |
| 22:01.25 | NightHawkTheSane | s/it/he/ |
| 22:01.28 | NightHawkTheSane | >.> |
| 22:01.32 | Antiarc | Hit caps are 27%/8% for melee |
| 22:01.35 | Lunessa | I'm a bit low in my PVE gear 'cause I swapped out some expertise rating when I bought a T10 piece. |
| 22:01.42 | Antiarc | Against a boss |
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| 22:02.36 | Antiarc | All melee DPS + hunters want 8% hit, dual wielders can use more than that up to 27% |
| 22:03.12 | Antiarc | Rogues want hit up to 8% yellow hit/9% spell hit, which is the poison cap |
| 22:03.21 | Antiarc | At a minimum |
| 22:03.23 | frontendloader | so what should I do if my string is too big for strsplit() :/ |
| 22:04.03 | Shadowed | Not use string split? :P |
| 22:04.09 | Shadowed | Store it in a table |
| 22:04.25 | Shadowed | I suppose you could do a string.gmatch |
| 22:04.32 | Gnarfoz | Antiarc: it was about expertise when Shadowed invoked your name, btw ;p |
| 22:04.36 | Shadowed | But if you're hitting a string.split limit, you're probably Doing It Wrong |
| 22:04.47 | frontendloader | heh I sort of am |
| 22:04.52 | Shadowed | Then stop :P |
| 22:05.09 | frontendloader | I put the entire AH in a string |
| 22:05.33 | frontendloader | itemname,itemnumber,stuff,otherstuff,thatguy;itemname.... |
| 22:05.55 | Shadowed | Yea, you're doing it wrong :P |
| 22:06.06 | frontendloader | Thats how auctioneer does it! |
| 22:06.06 | Shadowed | What are you trying to do basically, just store the AH and do historical data? |
| 22:06.14 | Antiarc | Oh, expertise is 6.5/26, yes |
| 22:06.20 | Shadowed | If Auctioneer just did that, it would break too! |
| 22:06.29 | frontendloader | it doesn't use strsplit |
| 22:06.33 | frontendloader | probably >_> |
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| 22:09.20 | kd3 | sweet, my refund got direct-deposited |
| 22:11.41 | Lunessa | Nice. |
| 22:12.47 | Gnarfoz | meh, wowwiki inaccuracy strikes again |
| 22:13.52 | Gnarfoz | I guess somebody extrapolated that since BElf paladins start with 1h swords proficieny, Draenei do, too |
| 22:13.52 | DWSR | Gnarfoz ? |
| 22:14.33 | DWSR | I thought starting profs were based on your class |
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| 22:15.00 | alestane | And race. |
| 22:15.13 | alestane | Or at least, they were for a long time. |
| 22:15.23 | Gnarfoz | some races start with extra stuff, indeed |
| 22:16.08 | kd3 | so fix it? |
| 22:17.35 | Fisker | so nowhey kd3 |
| 22:17.38 | Fisker | wat |
| 22:17.40 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 22:17.44 | Gnarfoz | kd3: I am? |
| 22:17.49 | kd3 | you want curds instead, fisker? |
| 22:17.51 | kd3 | 'lo fisk |
| 22:18.30 | Gnarfoz | and done, just had to figure the syntax out there |
| 22:26.01 | Kraps | pines for some Cata news |
| 22:26.56 | Gnarfoz | pines for the fjords |
| 22:27.17 | Maldivia | Kraps: ohh, you didn't hear, Blizzard announced their proposed release date for Cata? |
| 22:27.43 | Kraps | Maldivia: Soon? |
| 22:27.52 | Maldivia | (tm) |
| 22:28.37 | Maldivia | No, it's the ##th of *ber |
| 22:29.15 | Kraps | could be the ##rd of *ber too |
| 22:29.29 | Kraps | and ##st |
| 22:29.42 | Maldivia | well, it's not |
| 22:31.56 | Thunder_Child | also 201# |
| 22:32.38 | Kraps | what, you think it might not be this year? |
| 22:33.04 | Maldivia | according to some minutes from a board meeting, or what ever it was, it should be 2010 :) |
| 22:36.02 | ScytheBlade1 | so the part where converted maps are black |
| 22:36.04 | ScytheBlade1 | working as intended? |
| 22:36.27 | ScytheBlade1 | err |
| 22:36.29 | ScytheBlade1 | wrong channel :) |
| 22:36.32 | ScytheBlade1 | stupid familiar names |
| 22:37.12 | Thunder_Child | WHAT? |
| 22:37.38 | Thunder_Child | familliar my ass |
| 22:40.35 | Shirik | ?? |
| 22:40.50 | ScytheBlade1 | the SC2 map editor can import SC1 maps |
| 22:40.55 | ScytheBlade1 | and War3 maps |
| 22:40.55 | Thunder_Child | failed again |
| 22:41.05 | Thunder_Child | ffs ScytheBlade1 |
| 22:41.08 | Thunder_Child | stop failing |
| 22:41.12 | ScytheBlade1 | that was intentional |
| 22:41.16 | ScytheBlade1 | to give context to my question |
| 22:41.16 | Thunder_Child | ... |
| 22:41.19 | ScytheBlade1 | :p |
| 22:41.19 | Thunder_Child | ~lart ScytheBlade1 |
| 22:41.19 | purl | hurls dozens of incontinent, insomniac, hungry kittens with tiny little razor-sharp claws and a wide variety of contagious intestinal parasites at ScytheBlade1 |
| 22:41.23 | ScytheBlade1 | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 22:41.23 | purl | moos at Thunder_Child |
| 22:41.26 | ScytheBlade1 | ~whalenuke Thunder_Child |
| 22:41.27 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Thunder_Child with his mind powers. |
| 22:41.36 | Thunder_Child | ~whaleshield |
| 22:41.37 | purl | ACTION summons a rather dense leaden whale named Billy Bob to shield thunder_child from the blast. |
| 22:41.51 | Dagmar | ~whalefap |
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| 22:42.32 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1: is the editor out? |
| 22:43.49 | eidolarr | is chrome feasible as a file browser over nautilus? |
| 22:49.07 | Dagmar | Not really IMHO |
| 22:49.23 | eidolarr | chrome + terminal i mean |
| 22:49.33 | Dagmar | It's got a file browser, but as for the things you'd normally do with Nautilus, like say, move files and change attributes... Mmmmm |
| 23:01.34 | Fisker | http://www.maclife.com/article/news/apple_goes_record_flash_%E2%80%9Cclosed_and_proprietary%E2%80%9D <-ironic |
| 23:01.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: yes |
| 23:08.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Fisker: THAT is something you can file under "pot, kettle, black, etc" |
| 23:10.43 | Shirik | lmfao |
| 23:10.47 | Shirik | that's going to piss off some people |
| 23:11.29 | Kraps | ScytheBlade1: "my Closed and Proprietary is better than your Closed and Proprietary" |
| 23:15.44 | NightHawkTheSane | what's going to piss off some people is paying a huge amount of money for CS5, and not being able to use its flagship feature |
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| 23:35.17 | Mikk | well |
| 23:35.21 | Mikk | if adobe are smart |
| 23:35.29 | Mikk | they'll turn director into something that produces html5 |
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| 23:55.04 | NightHawkTheSane | Mikk: agreed.. but i dont think they're that smart. |
| 23:57.35 | tem | oh wow |
| 23:57.38 | tem | major sc2 changes today |
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