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| 00:03.03 | Fisker | nana |
| 00:03.04 | Fisker | nananana |
| 00:03.14 | DWSR | HEY HEY HEY |
| 00:03.18 | DWSR | YOUR BAD |
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| 00:10.26 | Fisker | i bought new underwear for you DWSR |
| 00:13.07 | ckknight | ScytheBlade1: goddammit! |
| 00:14.02 | Fisker | hey ckknight |
| 00:14.05 | Fisker | read above |
| 00:16.04 | ckknight | ScytheBlade1: sorry, I'm done |
| 00:16.07 | ckknight | I can't play like this |
| 00:17.01 | ScytheBlade1 | ckknight: me either |
| 00:17.17 | ckknight | gonna figure out what it is |
| 00:17.25 | ScytheBlade1 | a good idea |
| 00:19.50 | ScytheBlade1 | that was a promising match, too |
| 00:21.47 | OhGrimes | Guys tell me what you think of this mod idea! |
| 00:21.55 | DWSR | ok. |
| 00:22.16 | ckknight | go ahead. |
| 00:22.17 | OhGrimes | A MUD that goes overtop of WoW. Depending on your location, there might be items or details or even monsters and NPCs. |
| 00:22.20 | OhGrimes | All in the MUD :-] |
| 00:22.41 | OhGrimes | So if you go to Moonbrook there might be body on the ground with some tracks. |
| 00:22.44 | DWSR | ...... |
| 00:22.55 | DWSR | A MUD within an MMO? |
| 00:22.57 | OhGrimes | :-] If you don't like the idea just stay it |
| 00:22.59 | OhGrimes | Yep |
| 00:23.03 | Fisker | lets make our own mmo in wow |
| 00:23.03 | OhGrimes | A MUD inside an MMO. |
| 00:23.11 | OhGrimes | I didn't say it would be an MMO. |
| 00:23.14 | OhGrimes | Well. |
| 00:23.17 | DWSR | It's a neat idea. |
| 00:23.17 | OhGrimes | Okay. |
| 00:23.28 | OhGrimes | MUD means multiplayer. |
| 00:23.30 | Fisker | i didn't say that either |
| 00:23.48 | DWSR | OhGrimes: Meh, I alwasy understood MUD to mean Multi User Dungeon. |
| 00:23.49 | OhGrimes | But maybe you see tracks and on your map tracks appear. |
| 00:23.57 | OhGrimes | And you follow them. |
| 00:24.15 | DWSR | OhGrimes: Meh, I think it's a neat idea, but it's only intellectually interesting and not really practically interesting. |
| 00:24.22 | ZorbaTHut | ohgrimes, I think there's a lot of neat stuff you could do with it |
| 00:24.27 | ZorbaTHut | *however* it's also going to be nigh-impossible to code |
| 00:24.31 | OhGrimes | It would just be very veyr hard yeah. |
| 00:25.10 | Wobin | oh it wouldn't be too difficult |
| 00:25.14 | ZorbaTHut | I'm definitely vastly entertained at the idea of AR inside a virtual game |
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| 00:25.20 | Wobin | just link locations and descriptions with zone coordinates |
| 00:25.24 | ZorbaTHut | wobin, if you intend for players to communicate with each other in any fashion, it'd be a beast |
| 00:25.29 | OhGrimes | Wobin: That's what I was thinking. |
| 00:25.33 | ZorbaTHut | it's the "backend database" and "backend code" that is unclear. |
| 00:25.42 | ZorbaTHut | if you just want a pile of canned extra quests for people to do, then, yeah, sure. |
| 00:25.50 | Iriel | If you intent to maintain a coherent world state for any kind of non-trivial amount of data it'd be a beast too |
| 00:25.51 | Wobin | since what's used to be the server, will all be clientside |
| 00:26.11 | OhGrimes | There's obvious limitations, since yeah. It's all client-based. |
| 00:26.18 | Dagmar | Can we make ones that don't mention the giant man-eating elite mob that's going to be directly in the path people are instructed to follow? |
| 00:26.32 | DWSR | Dagmar: Those are the most fun though |
| 00:26.32 | Dagmar | That's always been my favorite kind of user-generated content. |
| 00:26.33 | ZorbaTHut | dagmar, that's considered an environmental hazard |
| 00:26.46 | OhGrimes | I think if you relied on other clients for information, then you could do cool stuff. |
| 00:26.51 | Dagmar | It was HUGELY popular back in EverQuest days |
| 00:28.07 | OhGrimes | You could also even have your own MUD inventory and stuff :-] |
| 00:28.09 | OhGrimes | And skills. |
| 00:28.30 | Dagmar | I think if other clients relied on my client for information, I could do some really cool stuff. |
| 00:28.45 | OhGrimes | <OhGrimes> I think if you relied on other clients for information, then you could do cool stuff. |
| 00:28.47 | Iriel | Like reduce all of their skills to 0 and take their stuff? |
| 00:28.48 | OhGrimes | Ahaha. |
| 00:29.04 | OhGrimes | Like steal from them. |
| 00:29.09 | Dagmar | Iriel: Like introduce the aforemention "suprise death" quests.; :) |
| 00:29.13 | OhGrimes | Oor try to sell them things. |
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| 00:29.32 | Dagmar | ...or have them fall to their deaths. |
| 00:29.44 | OhGrimes | What if you had, for each zone |
| 00:29.49 | OhGrimes | A trial account logged in. |
| 00:29.55 | OhGrimes | And that was the server :-] |
| 00:30.01 | OhGrimes | It recieved and gave all the information.. |
| 00:30.18 | OhGrimes | Well. About changes in the zone, MUD-wise. |
| 00:30.42 | DWSR | imo |
| 00:30.45 | Dagmar | I think you'd be facing a race condition for that toon's name. |
| 00:30.46 | DWSR | wtb idlerpg for WoW |
| 00:31.34 | Dagmar | Someone's got a level 1 toon on my server with my name, and I've got 'Kissybear' |
| 00:34.08 | ZorbaTHut | it would also mean that you'd have to run several *hundred* clients with trial accounts |
| 00:34.29 | ZorbaTHut | and after two weeks you'd be stuck needing to pay for 'em, or push a change to all your users with the new name |
| 00:35.15 | OhGrimes | Zorba: It is true there are problems but man it sounds like fun. |
| 00:35.38 | ZorbaTHut | I still wish they'd give UI mods HTTP access. So much exciting stuff could be done with that. |
| 00:35.52 | ZorbaTHut | (presumably with some level of security to avoid the blindingly obvious problems) |
| 00:36.21 | OhGrimes | Blizzard doesn't seem that into UI modding. |
| 00:37.33 | ZorbaTHut | I think the level of UI moddability that happens now is about all they want. I suspect that most extra UI mod features that show up now are a side effect of internal client features, or something that saves blizzard money otherwise |
| 00:37.53 | ZorbaTHut | (the "show all complete quests" calls, for example, getting rid of a large amount of GM work fielding questions of that sort) |
| 00:38.51 | OhGrimes | It really really would be great if mods had some kind of access to the internet in some way. |
| 00:39.02 | OhGrimes | Even if there was custom software you had to install on a webserver to receive and send it. |
| 00:39.30 | Dagmar | yes, now imagine just for one moment you're someone interested in stealing accounts or player gold... |
| 00:40.08 | Corrodias | i'm imagining it, go on :D |
| 00:40.11 | Dagmar | ...and add to that the ease with which these idiots are tricked into going to http://www.shiftyfreewebsites.ru/notakeylogger.php using IE |
| 00:40.13 | ZorbaTHut | dagmar, as I said, "with security to avoid the blindingly obvious problems" |
| 00:40.25 | ZorbaTHut | I mean it's not like those issues don't exist already, adding web access wouldn't change things much |
| 00:40.41 | Dagmar | ZorbaTHut: That's a bit like saying "Personal, unassisted flight is possible if we can just find some way to nullify gravity" |
| 00:40.57 | ZorbaTHut | and if you can install a UI mod on someone's computer, you don't really need built-in web access for anything you're planning on doing. |
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| 00:41.26 | Dagmar | No, but I suspect installing a mod in someone's UI is a lot easier if you can get any kind of foothold on it |
| 00:41.28 | ZorbaTHut | dagmar, no, that level of security is easy. you just pop up a window saying "ui mod whatever is trying to access server whatever, allow/deny/allow once" |
| 00:41.29 | Corrodias | i don't know, i never considered some wow-bound lua scripts to be a major pc security risk |
| 00:41.48 | ZorbaTHut | you have to already have a UI mod installed to communicate with the outside world |
| 00:41.57 | OhGrimes | When did they remove HTTP? Was it before retail? |
| 00:41.59 | ZorbaTHut | we're not talking about, like, opening a port to the outside world and allowing people to load whatever lua they want in |
| 00:42.01 | Dagmar | ZorbaTHut: ...and no one ever just clicks 'yes' on those dialog boxes so they can take the free candy from the stranger in the van. |
| 00:42.26 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, and as I mentioned, this *only shows up if the user's already installed a UI mod* |
| 00:42.32 | ZorbaTHut | at which point, what vulnerability does it expose? |
| 00:42.34 | Jerub | I got two more people to attach an authenticator to their accounts by running around with my core hound pup |
| 00:42.37 | ZorbaTHut | you can't get their password from a UI mod anyway |
| 00:42.49 | ZorbaTHut | you don't need internet access to mail shit to a mule account |
| 00:42.56 | Dagmar | You don't need if it the next mailbox they touch mails a wee bit of gold |
| 00:42.57 | Corrodias | how does that convince them, Jerub? |
| 00:43.08 | Dagmar | Corrodias: Because he's CUUUUTE |
| 00:43.09 | ZorbaTHut | I've never heard of anyone getting their stuff stolen via UI mod. has it ever happened? |
| 00:43.29 | Dagmar | No, but (albeit non-malicious) code behaviours have been hidden in them before. |
| 00:43.34 | Dagmar | See also: Thott |
| 00:43.42 | ZorbaTHut | it sounds like you're trying to protect against something that has never been a factor, then |
| 00:43.48 | ZorbaTHut | I see no reason to believe it would be any more of a factor afterwards |
| 00:44.11 | Jerub | Corrodias: "You get that pet by using an authenticator? brb" |
| 00:44.15 | Dagmar | I've never been burned to death in my sleep, but that doesn't mean a cigarette before bed while in bed isn't a bad idea |
| 00:44.35 | ZorbaTHut | if you're being burned to death while sleeping, you have bigger problems then where you decide to smoke |
| 00:44.41 | ZorbaTHut | I'd think *burning to death* should probably wake you up |
| 00:44.41 | Jerub | Dagmar: what about thott? |
| 00:44.43 | Corrodias | ah |
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| 00:45.00 | Dagmar | Jerub: There was a hook in Cosmos to make you salute him, long ago |
| 00:45.00 | OhGrimes | My hit UI mod "dentalplan" |
| 00:45.00 | Corrodias | ZorbaTHut: not if you're all drunk on cigars! |
| 00:45.13 | OhGrimes | Plays the sound clip DENTAL PLAN whenver ANYTHING happens! |
| 00:45.15 | ZorbaTHut | how many people burn to death from that exact situation? 'cause if the answer is "well, it's never happened", then I'd say actually it probably isn't a bad idea. |
| 00:45.31 | Dagmar | Mattress fires happen |
| 00:45.44 | ZorbaTHut | People stealing stuff with a UI mod doesn't happen. |
| 00:45.47 | ZorbaTHut | So there's the fundamental difference. |
| 00:45.48 | Dagmar | THey're rare, and the person is usually drunk and/or elderly, but they happen |
| 00:45.54 | OhGrimes | I will be honest I have no idea what you two are talking about. |
| 00:45.59 | OhGrimes | The risk of HTTP access? |
| 00:46.24 | Jerub | Dagmar: spontaneous combustion of the sheet piles? |
| 00:46.38 | Dagmar | I like to think 'chipotle allergy' |
| 00:46.50 | OhGrimes | Alright that's it I'm making the mod! |
| 00:46.58 | OhGrimes | I'm making WoWMUD! |
| 00:47.04 | ZorbaTHut | ohgrimes, dagmar seems to think that there's some major vulnerability that will be exposed by HTTP access which all the account stealers will take advantage of |
| 00:47.20 | ZorbaTHut | I am having trouble coming up with a single vulnerability that is not ridiculously contrived |
| 00:47.59 | Dagmar | You think Blizz will write their own browser to embed in the client? |
| 00:48.06 | ZorbaTHut | no, when did I say anything about a browser? |
| 00:48.08 | Dagmar | I might, sort of, trust that |
| 00:48.20 | OhGrimes | I was just thinknig about exchanging variables with a server. |
| 00:48.21 | ZorbaTHut | I just want HTTP access. You send a request, you get a response, what you do with it is your problem. |
| 00:48.58 | ZorbaTHut | (even better if you can do the AJAX thing and wait for more incoming data) |
| 00:49.02 | Dagmar | Afaik the reason they don't want live network access is because people will pretty much use it to bypass cross-faction chat restrictions, and other similar issues |
| 00:49.24 | Dagmar | At least as it stands now data collection requires somewhat of a barrier to entry |
| 00:49.37 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, I think it's questionable. if I were them I'd remove mods that were explicitly for that |
| 00:49.39 | Dagmar | Auction sniping would definitely take on new levels of accuracy |
| 00:49.43 | OhGrimes | It is true that you could really really easily make cross-faction chat. |
| 00:49.46 | ZorbaTHut | but, I mean, we already have official blizzard-sanctioned cross-faction chat |
| 00:49.48 | Jerub | to be honest, the reason things like http access aren't there are probably rooted in conditions like this in the EULA: |
| 00:49.49 | ZorbaTHut | it's called the forums |
| 00:50.00 | OhGrimes | Cross-faction limited chat is a joke anyways. |
| 00:50.05 | Jerub | 8) ... When engaging in Chat, you may not: ... (viii) Communicate directly with players who are playing characters aligned with the opposite faction (e.g. Horde communicating with Alliance or vice versa); or |
| 00:50.19 | Jerub | ah, you're already making that point |
| 00:50.31 | OhGrimes | I bet I could make a mod which lets you do that through emotes! |
| 00:50.50 | Dagmar | You could also join the ranks of people who've had their little fingers slapped for that |
| 00:50.56 | ZorbaTHut | ohgrimes, it's been done, many times |
| 00:51.10 | ZorbaTHut | there's usable information embedded in /say, also |
| 00:51.15 | OhGrimes | NO HOW DARE YOU TRY TO COMMUNICATE WITH THESE PEOPLE |
| 00:51.18 | OhGrimes | *Slaaaaam* |
| 00:51.42 | Jerub | if you know what the substitution for the single letters are you can say things cross-faction too |
| 00:51.57 | Dagmar | Yes, quality tidbits of information like |
| 00:52.03 | OhGrimes | I already have my own way |
| 00:52.04 | Dagmar | A N A L L O L |
| 00:52.05 | OhGrimes | If getting around it. |
| 00:52.09 | OhGrimes | It's called making my guild |
| 00:52.17 | OhGrimes | <My AIM is GrimesWoW> |
| 00:52.26 | OhGrimes | :-] |
| 00:52.32 | Dagmar | OhGrimes: Yes, but now imagine that such a mechanism became common and open |
| 00:52.44 | Dagmar | What do you think people in say, battlegrounds are going to be saying to the other faction |
| 00:52.48 | OhGrimes | The world would end! cats and dogs. |
| 00:52.50 | OhGrimes | LIVING TOGETHER. |
| 00:53.06 | Dagmar | I can assure you that it's _not_ "Hey the west side of the base is undefended." |
| 00:53.08 | ZorbaTHut | dagmar, I imagine a lot of people would end up banned |
| 00:53.24 | ZorbaTHut | kinda okay with that, honestly |
| 00:53.33 | OhGrimes | Blizzard: WE FEEL *BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH* |
| 00:53.39 | OhGrimes | whenever blizzard says We Feel I ignore the rest |
| 00:53.41 | ZorbaTHut | there are plenty of games where people in direct competition are able to talk to each other. |
| 00:53.43 | Dagmar | THey're going to be telling each other how many pieces their grandmother was shattered into when they did her |
| 00:54.14 | OhGrimes | We feel that removing Lan is the best thing for customers. |
| 00:54.18 | Dagmar | ...and things the people on 4chan would probably be really impressed with. |
| 00:55.57 | OhGrimes | Back to the WoWMUD. Which zone should I test the idea with! |
| 00:56.11 | Dagmar | Inter-faction griefing would rise to levels of hateful language typically only reserved for the perpetrators of war crimes and hardcore racists |
| 00:56.25 | Dagmar | OhGrimes: Silithus |
| 00:56.32 | OhGrimes | Ah yes. The most active zone. |
| 00:56.41 | OhGrimes | I think maybe... Dalaran. |
| 00:56.44 | ZorbaTHut | dagmar, honestly, the big reason this would happen is thanks to blizzard keeping the factions separate for so long |
| 00:56.46 | OhGrimes | Would be a good place. |
| 00:56.53 | Dagmar | We have a word for people who roleplay in public areas on non-RP servers, and that word is "fags" |
| 00:57.01 | ZorbaTHut | I suspect it'd die down relatively quickly, especially once the most angry people got forcibly evicted |
| 00:57.13 | Dagmar | ZorbaTHut: I doubt that, I really do. |
| 00:57.47 | Dagmar | You can just spend a weekend playing XBox live games to see that they've no problems doing things like that indefinitely |
| 00:58.16 | ZorbaTHut | I don't. The Horde/Alliance rivalry is *very* heavily based on the fact that people can't communicate. It's an common alienation technique. |
| 00:58.22 | Dagmar | ...as well as _just how quickly_ open voicechat got ripped out by the roots on Sony's Playstation@Home network. |
| 00:58.36 | ZorbaTHut | The XBox Live games have an extra huge dose of anonymity - you'll never, ever see those people again |
| 00:58.49 | Dagmar | You seriously would *not* believe the shit I heard _everywhere_ i went on there for the two and something days it was available |
| 00:59.00 | ZorbaTHut | of course I would, that's what always happens when a new feature shows up |
| 00:59.16 | ZorbaTHut | probably would've died down in a bit. people abuse anything when it's first invented. |
| 00:59.24 | Dagmar | Talk to Shirik about it then |
| 00:59.38 | Dagmar | Ask him if there's been a general downtrend on the number of people making up obscene account names |
| 01:00.02 | Dagmar | I have faith in the ability of the common person to become a complete asshole at the drop of a hat |
| 01:00.08 | ZorbaTHut | that's not "new" anymore, so there's no downtrend |
| 01:00.16 | ZorbaTHut | I'm saying that new things will spike, then get old and boring. |
| 01:00.40 | Dagmar | Look, if they do this, they'll wind up banning 3/4 of the kiddies. |
| 01:00.45 | Dagmar | Then who will we have to kill in IoC? |
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| 01:00.50 | ZorbaTHut | I'm okay with that, personally ;) |
| 01:01.03 | Corrodias | it would make less money. end of discussion. |
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| 01:01.19 | Dagmar | It's their money that makes sure my servers stay up and that Blizzard can afford hot tubs filled with booze to keep the admin happy |
| 01:01.20 | ZorbaTHut | corrodias, not convinced. you'd lose some, you'd probably gain others. |
| 01:01.24 | ZorbaTHut | I mean that's true of every change ever. |
| 01:01.32 | Corrodias | who is going to start playing WoW that hasn't already? |
| 01:01.42 | Dagmar | Now *there's* a good point |
| 01:01.43 | Corrodias | just because of banning most of the population? |
| 01:01.58 | ZorbaTHut | just watch people complaining about how WoW is for kiddies now and they're leaving, and yet somehow that change is probably not losing them money |
| 01:02.00 | Corrodias | enough people to make up for everybody that left? no |
| 01:02.05 | ZorbaTHut | I think you're vastly overestimating the number who would get banned |
| 01:02.15 | ZorbaTHut | it would be a very small percentage. |
| 01:02.17 | Corrodias | you're the one who agreed to 3/4, don't look at me |
| 01:02.18 | Dagmar | I think by this point the subject of WoW's "decline" is simply ignoring the fact that everyone and their damn brother is alreayd playing, and their cousin is multiboxing |
| 01:02.26 | ZorbaTHut | no, you said 3/4 of the kiddies |
| 01:02.33 | ZorbaTHut | most of the population aren't spammy kiddies |
| 01:02.44 | Dagmar | Dude, there's been a few times I've lost my sense of humor about trade chat |
| 01:02.45 | Jerub | what decline? |
| 01:02.47 | Jerub | wow is awesome |
| 01:02.54 | Dagmar | ...mainly during spates of 'anal' spam. |
| 01:02.56 | Jerub | best it's been, i'm enjoying the hell out of it |
| 01:03.22 | Corrodias | i think they mean the decline in population growth rate |
| 01:03.24 | Dagmar | So when I've gotten that pissed off, I've just reported every name that was in violation of the naming guidelines for the next hour. |
| 01:03.24 | Jerub | server pop of thousands and only 10-20 will be anal spamming. |
| 01:03.36 | Dagmar | It usually results in an email well over 100 names in _just_ an hour |
| 01:03.45 | Jerub | Corrodias: there are no official population figures tho... |
| 01:03.52 | ZorbaTHut | jerub, exactly. if they got banned it'd probably result in blizzard making *more* money |
| 01:03.53 | Corrodias | go figure |
| 01:04.13 | Jerub | what, the naming guidelines? are you on an RP server? |
| 01:04.14 | Corrodias | i'm just assuming there is one because it has to slow down some time |
| 01:04.42 | Dagmar | Jerub: Dude, the last time a good third of the bad names referred to acts of rape or genitalia |
| 01:05.15 | Jerub | should warn kokuwei her toons name is in danger from dagmar |
| 01:05.20 | Corrodias | are there that many ways to reference rape? |
| 01:05.37 | Dagmar | I mean, that bit on the SouthPark episode where the GMs ask that kid's dad if his son is 'Lovestospooge'... that's _common_ |
| 01:05.40 | Dagmar | It's not rare. |
| 01:05.55 | Dagmar | There's simply not enough parents beating the stupid out of their kids anymore. |
| 01:06.18 | Corrodias | not that i really care, but it wasn't back in 2.4 |
| 01:06.20 | Corrodias | did moderation get lax? |
| 01:06.38 | Dagmar | Ther'es moderation? |
| 01:06.44 | Corrodias | there was at that time |
| 01:06.49 | Dagmar | I wasn't aware any actual humans were involved in checking names |
| 01:07.10 | Corrodias | you weren't aware of things, then |
| 01:07.18 | Dagmar | Looking back through my mails, 'Kockgoblin' got through fine |
| 01:07.41 | Corrodias | he's still around, then? |
| 01:07.45 | Dagmar | 'Ueatme', 'Butbandit', 'Stabsurass' |
| 01:07.51 | Dagmar | Not under those names |
| 01:07.59 | Jerub | i like Stabsurass |
| 01:08.02 | Jerub | that's a nice one |
| 01:08.08 | Corrodias | oh yeah, me too |
| 01:08.19 | Corrodias | but, anyway, you're not helping your point |
| 01:08.48 | Corrodias | they were apparently forced to rename; game over. moderation in effect. yet the fact that they're around at all indicates that something changed since 2.4. |
| 01:08.49 | Dagmar | I thought that my point was that players are assholes by default. |
| 01:09.14 | Jerub | Dagmar: oh, in that case, you're helping your point to an extraordinary degree |
| 01:09.18 | Corrodias | well of course they are, and i love them for it |
| 01:09.21 | Dagmar | ...simply becuse the number of mouth-breathers vastly dwarfs the numbers of people who aren't wastes of skin |
| 01:09.38 | Jerub | now there i totally disagree. |
| 01:09.40 | ZorbaTHut | there exist players who are assholes |
| 01:09.47 | Jerub | that's just confirmation bias |
| 01:09.49 | ZorbaTHut | anal spam isn't really being an asshole, it's just being a sheep |
| 01:09.55 | Dagmar | If there's any queue where new player names are checked now, CLEARLY they outsourced it to somewhere that people just barely speak English |
| 01:10.02 | ZorbaTHut | if anal spam were bannable, it would stop nearly instantly, and most people who did it before wouldn't have to be banned |
| 01:10.11 | Corrodias | i've never suggested the names are checked upon entering |
| 01:10.14 | Dagmar | It's bannable |
| 01:10.24 | ZorbaTHut | by "bannable" I mean "people actually get banned for it" |
| 01:10.30 | ZorbaTHut | which they don't |
| 01:11.14 | Dagmar | Not permanently, but they were definitely handing out three-days on Skywall |
| 01:11.32 | Dagmar | Guys who would be trolling trade every night of the week, suddenly offline all at once |
| 01:11.44 | ZorbaTHut | personally I think they should just be muted for a while |
| 01:11.47 | Dagmar | A few who would actually admit they got a timeout when they came back |
| 01:12.07 | ZorbaTHut | start it at one day, then double it for every further infraction |
| 01:12.20 | Corrodias | most people i remember complaining about trade chat were frothing assholes themselves who raged about wanting to ban anyone trying to chat at all |
| 01:12.34 | ZorbaTHut | corrodias, trade is 4 trade gtfo |
| 01:12.50 | Corrodias | ah, you're taking me back to the good old days |
| 01:12.56 | ZorbaTHut | I do wish they'd add a real chat channel |
| 01:12.58 | Jerub | tbh, the most fun i ever had on trade was when the whole server was coming up with murloc movie name |
| 01:13.01 | Jerub | s |
| 01:13.06 | Dagmar | I'm on in the wee hours more often than not, and I'm really sure there's no ongoing moderation excepting when a GM just _happens_ to be somewhere where they can see trade |
| 01:13.09 | ZorbaTHut | just hook /1 among all capital cities like /2 is |
| 01:13.27 | Corrodias | and sure, everybody could join a channel manually, but without one that everyone can semi-officially agree on, that's no substitute |
| 01:13.38 | Corrodias | linking general would be the sensible solution |
| 01:13.40 | Jerub | Corrodias: or a channel listing |
| 01:13.51 | Jerub | Corrodias: being able to see exisitng channels would be awesome |
| 01:13.51 | ZorbaTHut | dagmar, if I were a GM, I'd just scan all the servers all the time |
| 01:13.53 | Corrodias | although it still wouldn't satisfy me, because i liked talking to people. |
| 01:13.56 | Dagmar | Heck, part of the reason I told my coworkers I wouldn't be back on Detheroc was that it made me want to kill people |
| 01:13.56 | Corrodias | yes, Jerub has the idea |
| 01:14.02 | Jerub | like, it took me a whole year to find out HordeBookClub was a channel |
| 01:14.12 | ZorbaTHut | five minutes per server/faction, that's about one week per pass |
| 01:14.29 | Corrodias | WoW has some annoying flaws in that regard |
| 01:14.43 | Corrodias | are they trying to minimize traffic? |
| 01:14.48 | Jerub | i hope they fix it for sc2 :( |
| 01:14.58 | ZorbaTHut | or honestly it wouldn't be hard for them to set up an automatic GM notifier on anal spam |
| 01:15.11 | ZorbaTHut | anal spam occurs, GM lets it go for a minute or two, probates everyone involved |
| 01:15.13 | ZorbaTHut | it would stop rapidly. |
| 01:15.28 | Dagmar | One night in the space of ten minutes (all that I was on that night) there was someone calling for a bres on Hitler so he could finish killing the jews, which spawned an ongoing thread of what the best way to kill jews is, someone talking about raping someone else's little sister, oh, and the usual sprinkling of plain old racism |
| 01:15.39 | Dagmar | Yeah, PvP players are _real_ classy |
| 01:15.52 | ZorbaTHut | man, I have no idea why Shattered Halls is so much nicer than that :P |
| 01:16.11 | Dagmar | I can only figure because it's more established |
| 01:16.22 | Dagmar | I thin kthe new servers tend to be where the newbies wind up and they don't have as much to lose |
| 01:16.45 | ZorbaTHut | shattered halls is a BC server, I believe |
| 01:16.46 | Dagmar | I know I didn't see it happening to that degree on Mal'Ganis while I was there |
| 01:16.58 | ZorbaTHut | personally I think it's because it's really low in the rankings |
| 01:17.32 | ZorbaTHut | the kiddiez tend to go to the top servers on the (admittedly correct) theory that it'll help them get purpz |
| 01:17.32 | Dagmar | ...although I do agree if the banhammer was used in realtime to put people in timeout, there would probably be a difference in behaviour |
| 01:18.18 | Dagmar | Like, if some people wound up missing their raids with little advance warning because they were acting a fool ten minutes ago, that stuff might settle down a bit |
| 01:18.39 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, it'd help a lot IMHO |
| 01:18.57 | Dagmar | Of course, that would mean subjecting some poor bastard to trade for eight hours a day |
| 01:19.13 | ZorbaTHut | I'd take it on for a bit, it'd be fun |
| 01:19.21 | Dagmar | I suspect the turnover rate would probably be higher than in first tier CS |
| 01:19.23 | ZorbaTHut | make a list of people, mash the "PUNISH" button |
| 01:19.39 | ZorbaTHut | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:19.46 | ZorbaTHut | head out to another server |
| 01:20.42 | Dagmar | Nah, youd' have to start smacking people immediately |
| 01:20.55 | Dagmar | ...otherwise, one of the little punters would challenge you on the spot. |
| 01:21.13 | Dagmar | ...and him not suddently and abruptly bursting into flame would just embolden the rest |
| 01:21.42 | ZorbaTHut | okay, so hang around for a few minutes mashing PUNISH and laughing like a maniac |
| 01:21.44 | Dagmar | Like that little tard whos banning from XBL was making the rounds a month or two ago |
| 01:21.52 | ZorbaTHut | or just come back in five or ten minutes and mash PUNISH again |
| 01:22.19 | ZorbaTHut | man, I would so want to get a giant red button I could hit with my fist |
| 01:22.23 | ZorbaTHut | plug it in via USB |
| 01:22.32 | Dagmar | I'd rather use a geolocational database and pay players gold for slapping the hell out of transgressors. |
| 01:23.31 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:24.54 | Dagmar | ZorbaTHut: I *think* you can get the parts for that from SparkFun |
| 01:25.09 | ZorbaTHut | sadly the part that causes people to get banned would have to come from Blizzard |
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| 02:17.12 | Thunder_Child | uh Cairenn, did you fubar the topic? |
| 02:17.32 | Cairenn | no> |
| 02:17.34 | Cairenn | ? |
| 02:17.45 | Thunder_Child | my birthday isnt untill october |
| 02:18.08 | Cairenn | hmmmm |
| 02:18.23 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.3.x ToC: 30300 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Blizzcon 2010 Oct 22 & 23! |
| 02:18.30 | Thunder_Child | ^_^ |
| 02:18.50 | dolby | are you sure your birthday is in october? |
| 02:18.54 | Thunder_Child | quite |
| 02:19.01 | Thunder_Child | 4 days before blizzcon to be exact |
| 02:19.02 | dolby | i think Cairenn would know better |
| 02:19.06 | Thunder_Child | >.< |
| 02:19.46 | Cairenn | wonder who I got yours mixed up with then |
| 02:20.34 | Thunder_Child | not sure how you could mix me up with anyone :p |
| 02:20.58 | Cairenn | shrugs |
| 02:22.05 | Dagmar | I say it's hearsay. |
| 02:22.14 | dolby | i think Thunder_Child is wrong and your right Cairenn |
| 02:22.30 | Dagmar | Do you _remember_? You're just taking their word for it that that's your birthday. |
| 02:22.51 | Thunder_Child | fine dolbybut then i want gifts from everyone |
| 02:23.04 | Thunder_Child | s/dolbybut/dolby but |
| 02:23.08 | Thunder_Child | damn '/' |
| 02:23.25 | dolby | hands Thunder_Child a lit M80 |
| 02:23.32 | Thunder_Child | sweet |
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| 02:36.55 | Shirik | has returned |
| 02:36.58 | Shirik | did you all miss me? |
| 02:37.35 | Dagmar | Don't worry. Next time we'll use laser scopes |
| 02:38.24 | Cide | yes |
| 02:38.33 | Shirik | :) |
| 02:38.46 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 02:39.03 | Cide | yo |
| 02:39.15 | Thunder_Child | ho |
| 02:41.03 | Cairenn | missed you, Shirik |
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| 02:43.30 | Shirik | lies |
| 02:44.39 | Cairenn | truth |
| 02:44.47 | kd3 | blah. vacations suck |
| 02:45.02 | Thunder_Child | oxymoron much? |
| 02:48.42 | Dagmar | Pfft. VRML/X3D is dead |
| 02:51.06 | ZorbaTHut | was it ever alive? |
| 02:52.12 | Arrowmaster | so ive been listening to di.fm since i got up, even while i was playing MW2 for like 7 hours |
| 02:52.45 | Arrowmaster | now im wondering again why i dont listen to music that often |
| 02:59.23 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Because the moment you express more than a passive interest, they start bothering you with commercials |
| 03:00.50 | Dagmar | ZorbaThut: Well, while *I* can see a lot of utility in visualization for dog & pony pages, apparently the rest of the world is completely happy just ignoring such issues. Thusly, what was almost "really obnoxious" technology which showed hints of being able to jump to "moderately irksome to deploy" has just plain withered on the vine and died |
| 03:01.22 | Dagmar | VRML became X3D which promptly up and coughed up both lungs. |
| 03:01.48 | Dagmar | Now I'm like "Hey, SVG can probably make polygons which can pretend to be 3D' |
| 03:02.27 | Dagmar | I really thought that by now somewhere there'd be hiding a project which makes a browser plugin you just send a rudimentary XML description of the scene and camera position |
| 03:02.35 | ZorbaTHut | alternatively you could write quake2 in javascript/html5 and we can all gleefully flip off vrml/x3d entirely |
| 03:02.37 | Dagmar | Nope. |
| 03:02.55 | Dagmar | ZorbaTHut: I thought they actually *did* that |
| 03:03.08 | ZorbaTHut | yeah it wasn't an entirely hypothetical suggestion |
| 03:03.13 | Dagmar | It's not going to make middle management happy to see space marines blasting away at the virtual server farm with bazookas |
| 03:03.22 | ZorbaTHut | what I'm getting at is that if we can now do that, we sort of don't need to bother with an explicit 3d format |
| 03:03.50 | Dagmar | ZorbaTHut: Yes but at some point shouldnt' someone be documenting how to make say, colored polygons appear on the screen? |
| 03:03.57 | ZorbaTHut | https://cvs.khronos.org/svn/repos/registry/trunk/public/webgl/doc/spec/WebGL-spec.html |
| 03:03.58 | ZorbaTHut | done |
| 03:04.44 | Dagmar | *hearts* |
| 03:05.14 | ZorbaTHut | honestly that's why vrml/x3d never went anywhere - they just weren't powerful enough or general enough. you want a programming language with an API |
| 03:05.25 | Dagmar | No I actually don't. |
| 03:05.28 | ZorbaTHut | javascript + webgl, now we've got it (once webgl is common, of course) |
| 03:05.35 | Dagmar | I was looking for something a lot stupider, but this might do |
| 03:05.50 | ZorbaTHut | I don't believe webgl plugins are particularly universal yet, unfortunately |
| 03:06.22 | Dagmar | Literally the only thing I wanted to be able to do was throw some tall cubes (racks) stop a bunch of flat cubes (floor tiles) and color them by what the temperature and power sensors are reporting |
| 03:06.30 | ZorbaTHut | looks like it's in firefox 3.7 and chrome developer preview |
| 03:06.40 | Dagmar | Hah. Ask me if I give two s**ts about whether or not IE supports it |
| 03:06.54 | ZorbaTHut | well, technically, neither firefox nor chrome do yet |
| 03:06.57 | ZorbaTHut | but they will soonish ;) |
| 03:07.09 | Dagmar | We have Magic Service Desk and Sharepoint here. The development of either I consider to be a war crime. |
| 03:07.23 | kd3 | ick, sharepoint |
| 03:07.26 | kd3 | iiiiiick |
| 03:07.32 | Dagmar | You'll likely never hear anyone say anything nice about BMC Service Desk Express |
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| 03:08.13 | Dagmar | kd3: Yeah, my first thought was "What the hell was wrong with Mediawiki that they had to resort to five year old tech?" |
| 03:08.40 | Dagmar | I'd love to give management some shiny that is absolutely impossible to use with IE |
| 03:08.45 | kd3 | lmao. I've been doing a lot of yelling internally... "We've got a wiki, why the hell aren't we use it?" |
| 03:08.52 | kd3 | s/use/using/ |
| 03:09.01 | Dagmar | kd3: If it's a Sharepoint wiki, that would be why |
| 03:09.58 | Dagmar | I keep being told "Well, it seamlessly integrates word documents that you upload" |
| 03:10.05 | Dagmar | I would like to have these people pee in a cup. |
| 03:10.39 | kd3 | ...if I could take a shotgun to the IT guys implementing our harebrained intranet... |
| 03:10.56 | kd3 | to log in we still depend on an ie6-specific hack |
| 03:11.22 | kd3 | stops thinking about work on a sunday |
| 03:11.30 | Dagmar | Somehow "it puts in a little icon that represents the word document which you must then click on and it will be launched externally to your browser by Word" is actually "seamless" to these people |
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| 03:30.03 | Thunder_Child | "(404): Whoa. I woke up to 10 new text messages. All about bacon." i think tekkub was texting this person |
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| 03:46.47 | DWSR | Err. |
| 03:46.59 | DWSR | Is there a way to get Outfitter to load its outfits from the BEM? |
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| 03:53.38 | Shirik | you know what's awesome about C++ |
| 03:54.41 | Shirik | imagine an interface Foo. Bar implements Foo. Baz contains Bar (composite) but implements Foo. |
| 03:54.46 | Shirik | And this is possible EFFICIENTLY in C++ |
| 03:54.51 | Shirik | Try to do THAT in Java |
| 03:56.28 | Thunder_Child | does that in java |
| 03:57.21 | DWSR | does your mom in Java. |
| 04:00.17 | Shirik | o.o |
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| 04:10.33 | Shirik | shit |
| 04:10.39 | Shirik | well C++ is awesome but Qt is not |
| 04:10.48 | Shirik | WarnAction.h(15): Warning: Class CWarnAction inherits from two QObject subclasses CRollbackAction and IActionItem. This is not supported! |
| 04:11.37 | Shirik | and apparently Visual studio isn't either WarnAction.h(7) : warning C4584: 'CWarnAction' : base-class 'IActionItem' is already a base-class of 'CRollbackAction' |
| 04:11.44 | Shirik | that's simply a wrong implementation |
| 04:11.48 | Shirik | FAILSTANDARDS |
| 04:12.39 | Shirik | oh, it does follow the standards, it just warns you because it thinks you're being stupid |
| 04:12.44 | Shirik | ok Microsoft you are forgiven |
| 04:13.11 | Thunder_Child | i love file recovery tools. i just let a bunch of people take pictures with my camera. they then delete them, i am getting them back....i am so evil |
| 04:13.18 | Shirik | rofl |
| 04:13.19 | Thunder_Child | deleted* |
| 04:13.21 | Shirik | anything juciy? |
| 04:13.24 | Shirik | juicy* |
| 04:13.32 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 04:13.36 | Shirik | lol |
| 04:14.25 | Thunder_Child | and possibly illegal, i shall have to wait till it finishes. |
| 04:19.09 | Thunder_Child | and now kodachrome just came on in itunes....i win |
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| 04:31.00 | batrick | So my friend applied for a job at Microsoft. The interviewer asks him what his interests are. He replies he likes Algorithms & Data Structures. So he asks what is he working on that is interesting. |
| 04:31.16 | batrick | My friend tells him about the Selection algorithm. The guy asks what that's useful for. |
| 04:31.26 | batrick | My friend says "finding the k-lowest member in an array". The interviewer then gets on his case about why not sort and index the k lowest member. |
| 04:31.48 | batrick | So my friend says "it's asymptotically faster". The interviewer apparently doesn't understand and keeps questioning him why sorting isn't good enough. |
| 04:31.56 | batrick | I love Microsoft. |
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| 04:34.06 | ZorbaTHut | batrick, I had a similarly terrible interview at Google. My specialty was also algorithms |
| 04:34.19 | ZorbaTHut | at one point the interviewer wanted to know how I'd write a class to store a graph structure |
| 04:34.43 | ZorbaTHut | there are two fundamentally different ways to do this - adjacency list and adjacency matrix - and you absolutely have to choose which before you start. he refused to agree with me on this. :( |
| 04:35.00 | batrick | awesome |
| 04:35.25 | Dagmar | My guesS: He's used to projects that have nothing but chaos going on at all times until the day they're to be presented to someone who matters. |
| 04:36.15 | ZorbaTHut | luckily it was the only bad interview I had, and I got the job anyway |
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| 04:40.59 | DWSR | Incompetence is everywhere. |
| 04:41.22 | DWSR | I regularly work under the assumption that people around me are stupid until they convince me otherwise. |
| 04:41.32 | DWSR | And as pessimistic as that sounds, it hasn't really failed me so far. |
| 04:42.33 | Arrowmaster | same |
| 04:47.05 | Thunder_Child | the xkcd about the quake is amazing |
| 04:48.00 | Thunder_Child | i would also s/sadly/hopefully they die/ on the last pannel |
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| 04:49.22 | Shirik | lmao |
| 04:54.37 | Thunder_Child | huh....i have exactly 25000 songs |
| 04:55.49 | DWSR | nice |
| 04:56.37 | DWSR | http://elitistarmory.com/US/Emerald%20Dream/Arelin <-- Woo! |
| 04:59.46 | Shirik | I just got a spam mail |
| 04:59.48 | Shirik | "I bought a laptop last week ane i have received it.the product has high price and low quality.the seller also solved the tariff for me.it is a Chinese website: [site redacted] . all the electronic products are original and new." |
| 04:59.52 | Shirik | I think they translated it wrong |
| 05:04.11 | DWSR | mhm. |
| 05:04.23 | DWSR | http://is.gd/bf031 <--- That's what I got *tonight*. |
| 05:05.08 | Shirik | http://translationparty.com/#7130813 |
| 05:05.43 | DWSR | lol |
| 05:06.31 | Shirik | btw, the anus is short: http://translationparty.com/#7130815 |
| 05:07.13 | DWSR | rofl |
| 05:08.21 | DWSR | anyway, nn |
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| 06:11.39 | Thunder_Child | this is the best 404ish page ever. "Well, this is a bit awkward and we apologize for our mistake. The page you are looking for has moved or no longer exists. To make it up to you, please use coupon code: ARC404P20 during checkout to receive 20% off." |
| 06:28.31 | Corrodias | wow |
| 06:28.55 | Corrodias | effect: reduces the quantity of merchandise you receive by 20% |
| 06:34.38 | Shirik | night all |
| 06:35.16 | Zyn | increases the quantity of rape by 48% |
| 06:38.27 | Dagmar | That's probably being used to prod the webdev team to fix 404's, or at least that was probably the original intent |
| 06:39.06 | Dagmar | Someone puts in the coupon code, it shows up in the logs, you scan for 404 hits from that IP, bob's your uncle |
| 06:39.48 | Dagmar | 'cept that it's probably also coming up from a lot of people who just Google'd "ArcSoft Discount Code" |
| 06:41.58 | nevcairiel | you know, a 404 can just be faked |
| 06:42.05 | nevcairiel | edits url |
| 06:42.38 | Dagmar | I'd wager the odds are actually in their favor |
| 06:42.49 | Dagmar | Most people who actually _buy_ something they can pirate are a bit scrupulous about it |
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| 06:43.16 | nevcairiel | arcsoft doesnt make their main profit with retail sales anyway |
| 06:43.22 | nevcairiel | they live off oem sales |
| 06:43.25 | nevcairiel | life* |
| 06:43.33 | nevcairiel | whichever is right now |
| 06:43.35 | nevcairiel | :d |
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| 07:04.10 | batrick | That xkcd would have been amazing if during all the tweets the earthquake broke the fiber cables and said: "C C CCCC OOMMBOOOO BREAKERRRR" |
| 07:04.41 | batrick | DWSR: too bad incompetence is hiring |
| 07:29.39 | Dagmar | batrick: I saw someone on IRC mention it as it was happening. Packets definitely faster than seismic waves |
| 07:30.15 | Dagmar | 3m later, mentioned on CNN |
| 07:31.45 | Adys | what is people's deal with backwards compatibility |
| 07:32.11 | Adys | why should python software have to support terribly old versions of python such as 2.3? |
| 07:32.40 | Adys | if someone is using a 4-5 year old version of python, can't they keep using a 4 months old version of a software? |
| 07:32.42 | Dagmar | Probably because the docs didn't say "This *requires* python > 2.3 to run." |
| 07:32.51 | Adys | they do |
| 07:33.23 | Adys | the docs actually say requires 2.4 (which isn't true) |
| 07:33.29 | Adys | http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/install/ |
| 07:33.41 | Dagmar | God forbid anyone ever actually ADMINISTER a machine and upgrade something then |
| 07:33.52 | nevcairiel | anything before 2.4 is just painful to maintain |
| 07:34.08 | nevcairiel | i just write stuff against the newest version, if it works on an older verison, good for them |
| 07:34.12 | Adys | nevcairiel: from __future__ import if_statement |
| 07:35.12 | Adys | ... its a joke. why is nobody laughing. |
| 07:35.39 | Dagmar | Because we frequently see those people walking around, not doing their jobs |
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| 07:36.18 | nevcairiel | i heard rumors our workstations at work will get win7 in q1 2011 :d |
| 07:36.56 | nevcairiel | those people certainly are slow |
| 07:36.56 | Dagmar | It runs VirtuaBox well enough. :) |
| 07:37.45 | Dagmar | nevcariel: might be budgetary |
| 07:39.06 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/q/12977/blowing-hodirs-horn/ |
| 07:39.06 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/q/13003/thrusting-hodirs-spear/ |
| 07:39.06 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/q/12987/mounting-hodirs-helm/ |
| 07:39.08 | Adys | I never noticed. |
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| 07:39.16 | Dagmar | Oh yes |
| 07:39.25 | Adys | I just.. never noticed |
| 07:39.26 | nevcairiel | you're so slow Adys |
| 07:39.27 | Dagmar | polishing hodir's helm, in fact |
| 07:39.48 | Adys | I'm like.. wow. |
| 07:39.54 | Dagmar | Yeah, it's a bit crass |
| 07:40.09 | Dagmar | I was really waiting for them to add more dailies over there |
| 07:40.26 | Dagmar | There's *so* many one can come up with, now that they've tread onto that particular ground |
| 07:40.55 | Dagmar | Maybe he's got a pet ice gorilla whose in need of corrective discipline... |
| 07:41.16 | Dagmar | Perhaps he has a light snack planned which needs being buttered by I dunno, goat milk |
| 07:41.54 | Dagmar | Maybe he wants you to bring him a salad next |
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| 08:06.09 | Arathros | is it hard to make your own "loot display list window.. like normal chatframe just with icons. |
| 08:09.56 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDxn0Xfqkgw |
| 08:16.41 | Adys | Arathros: shouldnt be |
| 08:18.13 | Arathros | well just want a static loot window tired of the spam. ;P |
| 08:18.25 | Adys | spam? |
| 08:18.32 | Adys | loot window != chat messages about loot |
| 08:19.24 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5Xs4EKpj50 |
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| 08:40.11 | sylvanaar_atwork | i started a group on LinkedIn for wow addon developers - if anyone is interested in Joining |
| 08:42.10 | mikma | if it's you in there, no. |
| 08:44.19 | sylvanaar_atwork | </3 |
| 08:45.46 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/04/04/funny-pictures-was-here-first-2/ |
| 08:49.50 | mikma | zenzelezz: http://mikma.eu/pet/PICT2925.JPG alrighty then |
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| 09:31.48 | Lothaer | hey all |
| 09:33.10 | zenzelezz | heya |
| 09:33.54 | Lothaer | anyone know whats up with Curse??? |
| 09:36.42 | nevcairiel | the network is down |
| 09:43.58 | Corrodias | the system is down |
| 09:44.04 | Corrodias | down down down down |
| 09:44.20 | Corrodias | doo doo do-doo, doo doo, do-doo doo |
| 09:48.21 | Lothaer | lol |
| 09:49.54 | Thaoky | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDwxhHwJ66M :P |
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| 10:17.25 | Fisker | threatens Thunder_Child with slavery and death |
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| 12:00.33 | Fisker | so Shadowed |
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| 12:21.43 | Wobin | http://l-userpic.livejournal.com/83975329/8441169 |
| 12:21.59 | Cairenn|afk | lol |
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| 12:22.25 | Wobin | I honestly cannot fault that reasoning =P |
| 12:23.52 | Cairenn|afk | indeed |
| 12:26.53 | Wobin | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/04/05/funny-pictures-my-face-again/ |
| 12:27.05 | Wobin | PS holy crap orange eyes |
| 12:27.20 | Cairenn|afk | lol, and yeah |
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| 12:31.57 | Fisker | plants a bomb behind Wobin |
| 12:32.05 | Wobin | waters it |
| 12:32.13 | Wobin | aw |
| 12:32.21 | Wobin | it went "Fzzut!" |
| 12:32.41 | Fisker | :o |
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| 12:50.13 | industrial | Dear blizzard please remove my horns when I put a helmet on. double horns look retarded on 9/10 helmets |
| 12:50.21 | industrial | (cept my shammy t10!) |
| 12:50.26 | industrial | (that I do not yet have!) |
| 13:04.36 | Fisker | industrial |
| 13:13.36 | Gnarfoz | gah |
| 13:13.55 | Gnarfoz | why is there no way to elevate a program from the command line |
| 13:14.33 | Gnarfoz | (i.e. doing something in a script to pop up the UAC consent dialog T_T) |
| 13:14.54 | nevcairiel | runas /trustlevel ? |
| 13:15.28 | nevcairiel | hm i guess that doesnt work |
| 13:16.08 | nevcairiel | get a elevated console :d |
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| 13:22.21 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: which I can only do by right clicking it, since even the suggestion (given on MS's QA/forum thingy at technet) is "use /runas:administrator /savecred" (which prompts for a password for "administrator", who of course, doesn't exist) or "edit the options to 'always run as administrator'" which you can't do for cmd.exe or any .cmd file |
| 13:22.48 | Adys | wow |
| 13:22.50 | Adys | what a jerk |
| 13:22.54 | Gnarfoz | worst thing about it: this functionality not existing is intentional |
| 13:23.26 | Gnarfoz | (someone wrote some .vbs/.whs "powertoy" kind of extension that gives you an "elevate" command, but I'd rather not rely on that) |
| 13:23.37 | Adys | Someone else gimme an opinion on this please |
| 13:24.01 | Adys | Some guy engaged a healthy discussions that went with a few back&forth emails yesterday |
| 13:24.19 | Adys | then after 7 emails, Jacob KM (project leader) answers with this: http://dpaste.com/179636/ |
| 13:24.29 | Adys | Anyone else finding this a giant WTF? |
| 13:25.15 | Lopeppeppy | Without seeing the discussion beforehand, it's hard to say, but yeah... if he doesn't like it, he can just ignore the conversation, can't he? |
| 13:25.23 | Adys | exactly |
| 13:25.31 | Lopeppeppy | Why does he have to trash on it, just because he doesn't want to join in? |
| 13:25.38 | Adys | whats with asking other devs to ignore an otherwise healthy and already started discussion? |
| 13:26.59 | Lopeppeppy | If it's cluttering up a group list and he's a moderator he could ask you to take it off-list, but it sounds like he's pissing in your cheerios because he likes it. |
| 13:27.33 | Adys | django-dev isn't exactly very active |
| 13:27.41 | Adys | like 5 mails / day usually |
| 13:28.16 | nevcairiel | maybe that was his problem, his reading capacity was exceeded |
| 13:31.55 | Adys | ~gmail++ |
| 13:32.02 | Adys | undo send to fix typos, just awesome |
| 13:32.31 | Gnarfoz | you could as well say ~outlook++, then |
| 13:32.56 | Adys | i could |
| 13:33.31 | Adys | but i'm ++ing because gmail is sexy |
| 13:34.53 | Gnarfoz | well, it's functionality made possible by a homogenized environment |
| 13:34.59 | Gnarfoz | I can't like that :o |
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| 13:42.11 | Fisker | hey Gnarfoz |
| 13:42.17 | Fisker | you're not Adys |
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| 13:52.43 | Wobin | holy crap http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz2SeEzxMuE&feature=player_embedded |
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| 13:56.13 | Fisker | holy Wobin |
| 13:56.38 | Wobin | Yes my child? |
| 13:57.38 | Fisker | i farted |
| 13:57.43 | Fisker | condition 1 over |
| 13:59.33 | Adys | Which guilds have shadowmourne already? |
| 14:02.13 | Fisker | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Azjol-Nerub&cn=Irafastrasz&gn=Semper+Fidelis |
| 14:04.23 | Wobin | http://www.neatorama.com/2010/03/26/the-warmth-of-natural-gas-illustrated-with-knitting/ |
| 14:04.48 | Wobin | man, the 'how it was done' link made me realise that they knitted the whole damn thing... then unravelled it for the shots... |
| 14:06.44 | Shirik | Tempus fugit |
| 14:09.41 | Adys | Wobin: yeah, the making of was cool |
| 14:11.38 | Wobin | Adys, ironic, however, that the majority of filming was done in what appears to be < 10degC temperatures =P |
| 14:11.51 | Wobin | (in the house at least) |
| 14:12.28 | Wobin | of course, wrapping wool around an active gas heater, probably isn't the safest thing, so I can see why they didn't turn it on =P |
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| 14:52.24 | Cairenn | haste: ping? |
| 14:52.29 | Cairenn | ~seen haste |
| 14:52.33 | purl | haste is currently on #wowuidev #wowace. Has said a total of 59 messages. Is idling for 30m 53s, last said: 'which mainly makes :len(), :sub(), :reverse(), :lower(), :upper() and kinda :byte() awkward to use'. |
| 14:52.49 | DWSR | huggles teh Cairenn |
| 14:52.56 | Cairenn | hugs DWSR |
| 14:53.15 | Fisker | haste is a jerk :( |
| 14:53.21 | Fisker | he knows people from Opera |
| 14:53.27 | Fisker | and he doesn't officially denounce them |
| 14:53.42 | Fisker | that's like being friends with terrorists |
| 14:53.43 | Fisker | :3 |
| 14:57.26 | Lopeppeppy | Always be friendly to people who can blow up your house. |
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| 14:57.45 | Wobin | words to live by |
| 14:58.13 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: like that? http://www.hardocp.com/news/2010/04/04/opera_still_happy_no_one_surprised |
| 14:59.17 | Wobin | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/232.html |
| 15:01.05 | Fisker | yes Gnarfoz |
| 15:01.07 | Fisker | like that |
| 15:01.40 | Wobin | =( |
| 15:01.50 | Wobin | http://consumerist.com/2010/04/kfcs-bacon-sandwich-on-fried-chicken-bread-kills-people-everywhere-on-april-12.html |
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| 15:07.58 | kneeki | Morning everyone |
| 15:08.15 | Lopeppeppy | heyo |
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| 15:09.14 | Cairenn | hi kneeki |
| 15:12.02 | kneeki | If I wanted to put a shadow around a frame, can i use an edge file for that, or do I have to make a graphic in photoshop which is the total size of the frame? |
| 15:12.36 | Wobin | drop shadows are so early 90s |
| 15:13.04 | kneeki | The example I'm looking at is: http://s.wowinterface.com/preview/pvw36886.jpg , the target and player frames... I looked into how he did it, which was the photoshop frame that's the total size |
| 15:13.12 | kneeki | Wobin: Yeah, but they look really great =) |
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| 15:20.34 | Zyn | http://geektyrant.com/news/2010/3/26/a-z-of-awesomeness-the-geekiest-way-to-learn-the-alphabet.html |
| 15:20.43 | Lopeppeppy | As always, if you want super-detailed unit frames, you're off to play with your Photoshop skills. :) |
| 15:22.49 | kneeki | Lopeppeppy: Well, I was going to do the same thing with my chat/combat log frames :) |
| 15:23.34 | Lopeppeppy | Have fun! I don't have that many patience points to throw at UI perfection. :) |
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| 15:29.22 | Shirik | wtf is this crap |
| 15:29.30 | Shirik | Request: HTTP POST Response: TCP RST |
| 15:29.38 | Shirik | is the server Fisker? |
| 15:29.46 | Shirik | is like it's going fffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu |
| 15:30.04 | DWSR | lol |
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| 15:41.56 | haste | Cairenn: pong! |
| 15:43.18 | Gnarfoz | Shirik: more like 'DO NOT WANT' |
| 15:46.56 | Shirik | heh |
| 15:47.00 | Shirik | I'm taking this test, and it asks me |
| 15:47.15 | Shirik | "Children do not... (a) excersize their fantasy enough, or (b) make themselves useful enough" |
| 15:47.21 | Shirik | Does it make me cruel for choosing b? |
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| 16:03.10 | Lunessa | station! |
| 16:03.19 | Cairenn | station |
| 16:03.25 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa-dear. |
| 16:03.47 | Lunessa | is still tired, but very relaxed from weekend trip to Austin. |
| 16:04.44 | Lopeppeppy | Had fun? Kissed the ladies? |
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| 16:12.48 | DWSR | Shirik: No. |
| 16:13.32 | durcyn | you were in austin, and you didn't tell me? |
| 16:13.40 | Shirik | tackles Lopeppeppy and Lunessa and Cairenn |
| 16:14.09 | Lunessa | durcyn: You don't follow me on Twitter or Facebook? For shame! |
| 16:14.52 | Cairenn | oofs, falls over, tripping everyone else in the process, and ends up in a massive heap on the ground |
| 16:15.11 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr, Shirik!! |
| 16:15.26 | Lopeppeppy | Puppy pile with Cairenn, I'm so there. |
| 16:15.34 | Cairenn | :) |
| 16:15.48 | Lunessa | needs a moment in private to contemplate that |
| 16:16.08 | Cairenn | good luck, you're in the midst of the pile |
| 16:16.20 | Lopeppeppy | I'll be in my bunk. |
| 16:16.35 | Lunessa | *grin* |
| 16:20.19 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Trip was mucho fun. Lunch with good friends at a place called Food Heads, then chilling on the capital lawn, where we took inappropriate pictures with the cannons. Then dinner in Downtown (oysters and venision - SO GOOD) at a place called Parkside; then shopping at crazy toy stores, then coffee late at night, then slept in, brunch with a Jazz DJ in South Austin then coffee and backgammon. GREAT weekend, |
| 16:21.16 | Lopeppeppy | Wooot! |
| 16:21.47 | Lunessa | And apparently I can still be charming. *notes several new sets of digits in his phone* |
| 16:21.58 | Lopeppeppy | Double-excellent! |
| 16:22.03 | Cairenn | indeed |
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| 16:32.48 | alestane | http://www.gocomics.com/forbetterorforworse/2010/04/05/ |
| 16:34.34 | Jamash | darn users, always asking for features |
| 16:38.49 | Lunessa | http://gizmodo.com/5509793/watch-ipad-meet-blender |
| 16:39.14 | Jamash | will it blend? |
| 16:41.08 | foxlit | Is there anything that won't? |
| 16:41.23 | Fisker | apple sucks |
| 16:41.38 | Fisker | it should be with shatner anyway |
| 16:41.44 | Fisker | he's close enough to look like him |
| 16:52.52 | cogwheel | Lunessa: that was highly cathartic |
| 16:53.04 | Lunessa | Didn't get one, huh? |
| 16:53.32 | cogwheel | i have little desire and even less budget for it |
| 16:54.07 | Lunessa | *nod* I want one for a media toy, but can't justify the cost either for the device or the additional data plan. |
| 16:54.23 | Lunessa | But it was fun to watch it blend. |
| 16:54.55 | alestane | âLife is intrinsically, well, boring and dangerous at the same time. At any given moment the floor may open up. Of course, it almost never does; that's what makes it so boring.â |
| 16:54.55 | alestane | âEdward Gorey |
| 16:55.00 | cogwheel | I really have no use for a media toy. Downstairs i have big flat screen on the wall. Upstairs I have my computer. In between I have my droid. |
| 16:55.32 | nevcairiel | Lunessa: thats one strong blender |
| 16:55.36 | cogwheel | Not that i'd turn away an iPad gift ;) |
| 16:56.37 | nevcairiel | I would sell it when i got one for free |
| 16:56.39 | Lunessa | cogwheel: *nod* I don't has huge flatscreen, and I'd like to have one for watching movies, reading, etc. when away from home. And doing other, silly, largely non-critical tasks. |
| 16:56.40 | nevcairiel | not touching that |
| 16:56.59 | DWSR | rofl |
| 16:57.10 | cogwheel | nevcairiel: you know you want to |
| 16:57.34 | nevcairiel | no, no i dont |
| 16:57.47 | nevcairiel | a giant ipod touch, still without multitasiking? |
| 16:57.59 | nevcairiel | i rather buy a second droid and ducttape them together |
| 16:58.28 | Lopeppeppy | I so read that wrong. |
| 16:58.45 | cogwheel | Lopeppeppy: so did I? |
| 16:58.46 | Fisker | cogwheel |
| 16:59.07 | cogwheel | Fisker |
| 16:59.46 | Fisker | cogwheel |
| 16:59.49 | Fisker | you |
| 17:02.17 | Thunder_Child | that doesnt scare me Fisker |
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| 17:04.00 | cogwheel | caffeine shrine is up to 55 pieces |
| 17:04.17 | Lunessa | Unique pieces, or are you cheating? |
| 17:04.33 | cogwheel | all unique |
| 17:05.02 | cogwheel | unless you don't count different flavors |
| 17:05.18 | Lunessa | Ave, Imperator, morituri te salutant! |
| 17:06.29 | Kaso | I have what feel like UI lockups whenever anyone enters or exits my raid, What are some decent profiler addons so i can work this out? |
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| 17:10.54 | Sixen | Rawr. |
| 17:11.22 | Cairenn | hi Sixen |
| 17:12.04 | Lopeppeppy | Hi! |
| 17:12.11 | cogwheel | Rawrback |
| 17:12.38 | cogwheel | Lunessa: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=3588997&l=79ce6a1352&id=563064469 |
| 17:13.39 | Sixen | Heya cairenn and peppy... and cog! |
| 17:13.44 | Lunessa | Ave, Cogwheel, morituri te salutant! We have indulged in your sacred molecule until our hearts are ready to explode! |
| 17:14.02 | Sixen | How's everyone doin? |
| 17:14.03 | Jamash | I'm having raid problems as well |
| 17:14.12 | Lopeppeppy | What are the newest pieces, Cogwheel? |
| 17:14.18 | Jamash | mdadm is reporting /dev/md0 is degraded :( |
| 17:15.35 | cogwheel | Lopeppeppy: 3 tall cans of starbucks energy coffee, 3 tall cans of Molotov brand energy drinks |
| 17:15.56 | cogwheel | Heritage Dr. Pepper |
| 17:16.03 | cogwheel | pepsi throwback |
| 17:16.22 | cogwheel | i think that's it since my previous photo |
| 17:17.12 | Cairenn | lol, I like the Programming WoW book in the corner |
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| 17:17.28 | nevcairiel | but the old one! |
| 17:17.32 | cogwheel | :) |
| 17:17.33 | Lunessa | That's part of the reasons he needs all that caffeine. |
| 17:17.42 | cogwheel | nevcairiel: SRSLY! I still haven't gotten my author copies of 2e |
| 17:19.09 | Cairenn | I didn't get one either, I'm actually going to have to *gasp*purchase*gasp* one this time round |
| 17:19.10 | Sixen | Cog, where's the WoW mountain dew bottles? |
| 17:19.22 | Sixen | phale. |
| 17:19.25 | cogwheel | bottles?? |
| 17:19.31 | cogwheel | who drinks from bottles? |
| 17:19.34 | cogwheel | :P |
| 17:19.39 | Sixen | Cans? =l. |
| 17:19.53 | cogwheel | the cans are 3rd and 4th from the left |
| 17:19.57 | nevcairiel | or some of the mana potions! |
| 17:20.06 | cogwheel | the mana potions are flanking the soap |
| 17:20.07 | Sixen | Oh, I take it back then. winrar. |
| 17:20.08 | cogwheel | but they're empty |
| 17:20.17 | Sixen | :p |
| 17:20.18 | cogwheel | mana/health |
| 17:20.32 | nevcairiel | oh those small bottles |
| 17:20.35 | nevcairiel | barely see it |
| 17:20.44 | Sixen | Mm |
| 17:20.47 | cogwheel | yeah... need to fill them with dyed water one of these days |
| 17:21.48 | cogwheel | i wish they still made livewire around here |
| 17:21.58 | Sixen | Livewire? |
| 17:22.21 | Sixen | Sounds good. |
| 17:22.24 | cogwheel | it was an orange flavored dew |
| 17:22.38 | Sixen | Aha! I remember that. |
| 17:22.39 | cogwheel | they ran it as a promotion for a couple summers in a row then stopped |
| 17:22.45 | cogwheel | but they still have it in parts of the country |
| 17:22.51 | Sixen | Wasn't is just wired or something |
| 17:23.06 | cogwheel | !g mountain dew livewire |
| 17:23.07 | batbot | cogwheel: Mountain Dew - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountain_Dew> |
| 17:23.09 | cogwheel | :P |
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| 17:23.30 | Jamash | mountain dew is normally orange flavored...? |
| 17:23.31 | Sixen | :X |
| 17:23.41 | Sixen | No, its spriteish. |
| 17:23.42 | cogwheel | it's normally "citrus" flavored |
| 17:23.48 | Sixen | Oh? |
| 17:23.53 | cogwheel | livewire is unabashedly orange |
| 17:24.01 | Sixen | Yar. |
| 17:24.05 | cogwheel | and also regular mountain dew is naturally flavored |
| 17:24.17 | cogwheel | unlike every other flavor of MD |
| 17:24.31 | Sixen | My buddy has like.. code:black or something |
| 17:24.36 | Jamash | I liked the horde flavor |
| 17:24.50 | cogwheel | pitch black? |
| 17:24.58 | cogwheel | was grape. not particularly pleasing imo |
| 17:26.06 | Sixen | Yeah, that might be it. |
| 17:26.46 | cogwheel | last year we were in a hardware store and they had livewire in the impulse buys |
| 17:27.07 | cogwheel | I was very excited. Then i noticed it expired months earlier. |
| 17:27.12 | Lopeppeppy | eeew. |
| 17:27.14 | Sixen | :( |
| 17:27.15 | cogwheel | It was still yummy >< |
| 17:27.18 | Lopeppeppy | Still, buy one for the wall. |
| 17:27.20 | Sixen | lawl |
| 17:27.33 | alestane | I love swiping eggs from in front of AFK campers. |
| 17:28.13 | Sixen | Right from their tents? |
| 17:28.31 | cogwheel | ~rimshot |
| 17:28.32 | purl | badum-TISH! |
| 17:28.35 | Sixen | cwutididthar? Tents? Camping? |
| 17:28.38 | Sixen | :( |
| 17:28.58 | cogwheel | this is one of my current favorites: |
| 17:29.02 | cogwheel | http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bella/2010/01/caffiend_molotov_explosive_ene.php |
| 17:29.26 | Lopeppeppy | pineapple hot sauce I could understand. |
| 17:29.43 | cogwheel | just don't breathe in through your mouth while sipping :P |
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| 17:30.10 | cogwheel | the bubbles are very efficient capsaicin delivery vehicles |
| 17:30.33 | alestane | No pepperiness in the lungs please! |
| 17:31.07 | Lopeppeppy | everyone should have Peppy in the lungs. |
| 17:31.24 | alestane | I will happily inhale of you deeply. |
| 17:31.59 | cogwheel | *popcorn* |
| 17:33.06 | alestane | I suppose that doesn't have mean you expect drama...it could just mean you're enjoying the show. |
| 17:33.14 | cogwheel | ^ |
| 17:33.39 | cogwheel | I'm not one for drama |
| 17:33.41 | cogwheel | *cough* |
| 17:33.52 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:34.09 | cogwheel | those were irony indicator coughs |
| 17:34.13 | Dagmar | If you want, I can prolly scrounge up some literature about how evil the people who don't wear them are |
| 17:35.00 | Lopeppeppy | I saw what you did there, Cog. *poke* |
| 17:39.16 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/04/05/funny-pictures-my-face-again/ |
| 17:39.35 | cogwheel | bad photoshop job is bad |
| 17:39.56 | zenzelezz | oh I'm sorry, I didn't know ICHC was your source for good photoshops |
| 17:40.01 | cogwheel | :P |
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| 17:41.34 | cogwheel | mrs. cog and the fuzzies on a rainy day http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=3582642&l=9f636cf79b&id=563064469 |
| 17:42.05 | Fisker | what a bitch |
| 17:42.09 | Fisker | the dog that is |
| 17:42.10 | Fisker | :3 |
| 17:42.14 | cogwheel | he's a he |
| 17:42.25 | zenzelezz | protected by lasers |
| 17:42.33 | Fisker | aww |
| 17:42.51 | cogwheel | he's a DK |
| 17:42.52 | cogwheel | http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=3582642&l=9f636cf79b&id=563064469 |
| 17:43.24 | zenzelezz | that reminds me... I bet Fisker's DK is named Dkfiskerdk |
| 17:43.27 | zenzelezz | or Fiskerdkdk |
| 17:45.31 | Fisker | nope |
| 17:45.37 | Fisker | It's called Danishdkofdk |
| 17:45.42 | Fisker | and my other dk is called postdk |
| 17:45.49 | zenzelezz | ah, makes sense |
| 17:50.04 | Jamash | cough |
| 17:54.36 | Lunessa | cogwheel: The "citrus" flavor or regular Mt. Dew is ... wait for it ... grapefruit. |
| 17:54.46 | Dagmar | Amy Post. <3 <3 <3 |
| 17:55.00 | Dagmar | er s/Post/Pond/; |
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| 17:55.18 | cogwheel | Lunessa: it also has orange juice concentrate |
| 17:55.46 | Lunessa | *nod* But mostly, grapefruit. Which is delicious. |
| 17:56.05 | cogwheel | indeed. Hence my enjoyment (and wish for caffeination) of Squirt |
| 17:56.35 | cogwheel | i suppose i could fulfill that wish... http://www.aonevitamins.com/caffeine.htm |
| 17:56.43 | Dagmar | unessa: You should maybe try Full Throttle then |
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| 17:58.56 | cogwheel | agmar: You should maybe try tab complete |
| 18:02.11 | Dagmar | I would, but the connection was lagging hard |
| 18:02.35 | Dagmar | If you see me type a line with a lot of typos in it, it's probably because I hit return on it before any of it had echoed back to my screen. |
| 18:03.16 | Dagmar | The black Full Throttle, in addition to having superlative amounts of caffiene, basically tastes like Grapefruit Coke |
| 18:03.41 | Dagmar | No crazy Flintstone's Chewables flavoring like that nasty Red Bull stuff |
| 18:05.57 | cogwheel | Heh... never thought of Red Bull that way (though i like it) |
| 18:06.27 | cogwheel | while Red Bull may have a hint of that, Health Potion is almost a perfect recreation of chewable multivitamins |
| 18:06.29 | Dagmar | Most of the "sport drinks" seem to hit my tongue that way. FT kinda shocked me when it didn't have it |
| 18:08.49 | Lunessa | Dagmar: I've tried it. Kind of oily aftertaste that makes me not enjoy it. |
| 18:09.21 | Lunessa | Most "energy drinks" remind me of Pixie Stix candy. |
| 18:09.28 | Dagmar | I miss Nitro. |
| 18:09.35 | Dagmar | It was heavily caffienated ginger ale. |
| 18:09.40 | cogwheel | Have you tried NOS? |
| 18:09.47 | Dagmar | makes a face |
| 18:10.04 | Fisker | cogwheel |
| 18:10.14 | Dagmar | I was not suprised to find that it tasted like something that should maybe go in the car |
| 18:10.23 | cogwheel | O.o |
| 18:10.26 | Fisker | postdk is the most awesome death knight name ever |
| 18:10.30 | cogwheel | it tasets like uber-caffeinated Koala |
| 18:10.35 | Fisker | it's funny if you're danish |
| 18:10.36 | cogwheel | tastes* |
| 18:10.43 | Fisker | isn't that right foxlit ? |
| 18:10.50 | Dagmar | I've never eaten koala. THey're not native here so my relatives don't hunt 'em |
| 18:11.04 | cogwheel | Dagmar: tbh I think the flavor you're objecting to is the combo of caffeine, taurine, and guanine (which are all rather bitter) |
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| 18:11.21 | cogwheel | (and also the whole point of the drinks) |
| 18:11.24 | Dagmar | Guanine, definitely |
| 18:11.38 | Dagmar | That nasty panther sweat crap that hit the market in 2000 had a load of it |
| 18:11.53 | Lunessa | no kidding. Why not just server your liver and kidneys a lethal dose of phenobarbital and get it overwith? |
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| 18:12.20 | Dagmar | Lunessa: because large doses of that won't enable me to see inndividual air particles moving about |
| 18:12.46 | Lunessa | Dagmar: No, they'll just knock you out and then kill you. :P |
| 18:12.46 | foxlit | Fisker: Vil verden nogensinde true vores dominans i indendørs håndbold? |
| 18:12.47 | Dagmar | I used to drink 3-4 Nitros before going into a rave, just to get that whole manic thing going on properly |
| 18:13.20 | cogwheel | koala was a natural carbonated fruit juice drink |
| 18:13.20 | Dagmar | <-- hyperactive adrenal gland |
| 18:13.31 | cogwheel | we noticed |
| 18:13.32 | cogwheel | :> |
| 18:13.54 | cogwheel | skitters gnomishly away |
| 18:14.10 | Dagmar | Oh you've not seen anything just from my typing |
| 18:14.45 | Fisker | nej foxlit |
| 18:14.57 | Lunessa | I suspect you would be hard to get a good still photo of. |
| 18:15.21 | Dagmar | Well, yeah. With enough caffiene I can easily keep up with any jungle DJ (220bpm? No problem...) |
| 18:17.41 | Dagmar | The reaction people used to have when they'd offer me blow and I'd tell them I didn't do speed was hi-larious |
| 18:18.36 | foxlit | Fisker: http://www.dr.dk/Nyheder/Kultur/2010/02/24/112454.htm << It's interesting that DR reports on The Onion. |
| 18:19.00 | Fisker | OMG |
| 18:19.08 | Fisker | THEY'RE TOTALLY LYING TO PEOPLE AND STUFF |
| 18:20.03 | Fisker | i wonder what the point of that post is |
| 18:20.19 | Fisker | maybe an attempt at being hip? :o |
| 18:22.39 | Dagmar | Trying to get pageviews |
| 18:23.02 | Dagmar | If The Onion mentions them, people will wonder who they are and maybe click over there to find a website written in some crazy alien language |
| 18:23.26 | foxlit | Dagmar: I don't think DR cares about pageviews. |
| 18:24.18 | Dagmar | What do they do? (aside from putting circles over a lot of letters) |
| 18:24.19 | foxlit | [It's a state broadcaster, there's no advertising to speak of] |
| 18:24.53 | Dagmar | Well, the people writing content are still humans |
| 18:25.53 | Dagmar | If they're writing stuff on the web and don't actually care if anyone sees it, I suspect they have a lot of employees either jumping out windows or polishing their weapons |
| 18:26.22 | foxlit | Does the BBC care if you view their news content? :) |
| 18:26.43 | Dagmar | "The BBC" might not. The people who wrote it would drink heavily if they thought no one read it. |
| 18:28.04 | foxlit | Hm, I wonder. |
| 18:28.13 | Dagmar | Have you ever met a content author who *didn't* stress out about whether or not anyone cares about what they wrote? |
| 18:28.22 | foxlit | I assume it's like a regular job. |
| 18:29.34 | foxlit | In that they probably get a desk somewhere, and produce some amount of articles per some amount of time. Those articles then get published, and that's the last they ever hear about that. |
| 18:30.00 | foxlit | It'd be interesting to know whether they actually do per-article tracking, and if those numbers ever reach the authors. |
| 18:30.10 | Dagmar | I suspect that's got a bit to do with why newspapers are dying actualyl |
| 18:31.29 | foxlit | But hey, it's state-funded. They won't die because of a direct lack in demand/interest. |
| 18:32.34 | Dagmar | THat much is true at least, but beuracracies tend to be odd sometimes |
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| 18:35.40 | foxlit | PING google.com (74.125.77.147): 56 data bytes |
| 18:35.42 | foxlit | 64 bytes from 74.125.77.147: icmp_seq=0 ttl=57 time=1510.721 ms |
| 18:35.45 | foxlit | yowch |
| 18:36.36 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/498501359 |
| 18:40.25 | Shirik | WHAT |
| 18:40.31 | Shirik | Jackie Chan is making a remake of Karate Kid? |
| 18:40.34 | Shirik | what kind of BS is this |
| 18:40.49 | Cide | awesomebs |
| 18:40.59 | Shirik | not awesomebs |
| 18:41.02 | Shirik | you don't remake a classic |
| 18:41.08 | Cide | conservatist |
| 18:41.09 | Shirik | do you remember what happened to wargames? |
| 18:41.26 | Cide | do you remember what happened to starcraft? |
| 18:41.29 | Cide | they made this new game |
| 18:41.41 | Shirik | DIFFERENt |
| 18:41.44 | Shirik | that's a game |
| 18:41.44 | Cide | psh! |
| 18:41.50 | Cide | classic nonetheless |
| 18:41.51 | Shirik | games are interactive |
| 18:41.52 | Shirik | movies are not |
| 18:42.13 | Cide | true |
| 18:42.30 | Cide | it's not a remake though is it? |
| 18:42.38 | Shirik | what isn't? |
| 18:42.40 | foxlit | "Shirik: you don't remake a classic" << And why not? |
| 18:42.44 | Cide | karate kid |
| 18:42.45 | Shirik | BECAUSE YOU DON'T |
| 18:42.52 | foxlit | Ah. |
| 18:42.53 | Shirik | and no it seems a little different |
| 18:42.54 | Cide | isn't it same idea/story |
| 18:43.01 | foxlit | In that case, I have the perfect counter-argument: BECAUSE YOU DO. |
| 18:43.03 | Cide | but different execution or what have you |
| 18:43.06 | Shirik | but it's the same kind of thing |
| 18:43.25 | Cide | yeah |
| 18:43.30 | Shirik | puny kid gets beat up, unsuspectingly finds secret master, teaches karate |
| 18:43.34 | Shirik | actually the commercial says kung fu |
| 18:43.37 | Shirik | which doesn't make any sense |
| 18:43.44 | Cide | see, different |
| 18:43.53 | Shirik | but it's still called karate kid |
| 18:43.54 | haste | remakes Shirik. |
| 18:44.01 | Cide | kung fu kid doesn't seem as cool |
| 18:44.10 | haste | combines the new Shirik with some Fiskerness. |
| 18:44.25 | Shirik | haste is trying to create an antimatter explosion |
| 18:44.29 | Cide | also |
| 18:44.33 | Cide | I just watched primer for the first time |
| 18:44.35 | Cide | I'm still dizzy |
| 18:48.13 | haste | http://x0.no/11i5 solves dizziness! |
| 18:55.41 | Fisker | hey haste |
| 18:55.43 | Fisker | terrorist |
| 18:55.49 | mikma | haste: first icon from the "MikoKeZ" user is character from Left 4 Dead 1 + Garry's Mod |
| 18:56.01 | haste | mikma: wat |
| 18:56.11 | haste | oh, that I actually know |
| 18:56.14 | mikma | http://www.last.fm/user/MikoKeZ |
| 18:56.17 | haste | why do you say that to me :p ? |
| 18:56.31 | haste | I do have both Left 4 Dead and Left 4 Dead 2 after all! |
| 18:56.32 | mikma | cause you linked the page, monkeyboy |
| 18:56.36 | zenzelezz | does lua pattern matching have anything like regex "(foo|bar)"? |
| 18:56.40 | haste | no |
| 18:57.12 | mikma | haste: you? both of them? that's cool |
| 18:57.19 | haste | amazing I know |
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| 19:13.25 | Fisker | with the power of post danmark Fisker will have his fermi! |
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| 19:16.04 | Gnarfoz | so uhm |
| 19:16.43 | Gnarfoz | 'dnsproxy' fails to execute because: /usr/sbin/dnsproxy: symbol lookup error: /usr/sbin/dnsproxy: undefined symbol: event_sigcb |
| 19:16.58 | Gnarfoz | checking through the source code, I see exactly ONE occurence of that event |
| 19:17.05 | Gnarfoz | namely, "extern int (*event_sigcb)(void);" |
| 19:17.24 | Gnarfoz | is my assumption that simply removing that line would suffice sound? :< |
| 19:18.27 | Gnarfoz | (it's using libevent, and apparently I upgraded that recently, and the newer version doesn't have that symbol anymore (authors say it never exported it, so whoever relied on it was in the wrong to begin with)) |
| 19:19.19 | zenzelezz | I'd try it at least |
| 19:20.58 | Gnarfoz | I hate mixing up hand-compiled stuff with debian-provided binaries :\ |
| 19:21.18 | Gnarfoz | there probably is some recommended way to handle this cleanly, but I don't know it ^^ |
| 19:21.20 | zenzelezz | no problem, just ditch Debian |
| 19:22.48 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 19:23.05 | Gnarfoz | ah, the version the debian package is built on actually uses it one more time |
| 19:23.27 | Gnarfoz | 1.15: 2005, 1.16: 2010 |
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| 19:25.40 | Fisker | Gnarfoz |
| 19:26.07 | Gnarfoz | Groktar |
| 19:26.10 | Gnarfoz | I mean, Fisker |
| 19:28.43 | Fisker | indeed |
| 19:28.53 | Fisker | with the power of post danmark Fisker will have his fermi! |
| 19:28.59 | Fisker | what are you going to do about it? |
| 19:29.44 | ckknight | WTB Cataclysm |
| 19:30.22 | foxlit | WTS Apocalypse. |
| 19:31.39 | zenzelezz | now? |
| 19:33.25 | foxlit | wowhead has a hilarious cyclical-rededirection bug at the moment |
| 19:33.41 | zenzelezz | re-dedirection? |
| 19:33.59 | foxlit | drop the appropriate syllable |
| 19:34.26 | zenzelezz | what's it doing now? |
| 19:36.08 | foxlit | Hm, fixed itself it used to cycle between http://www.wowhead.com/item=44793 and http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44793 |
| 19:38.31 | Fisker | wtb fermi |
| 19:44.34 | Gnarfoz | zenzelezz: I successfully built the most recent version from source and replaced the binary - now to report this to the maintainer =) |
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| 20:04.29 | mikma | haste: http://www.geekologie.com/2010/04/i_donif_websites_were_kids.php |
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| 20:06.32 | haste | random~ |
| 20:08.05 | Shirik | error C2440: 'initializing' : cannot convert from 'QNetworkRequest *' to 'QNetworkRequest *' |
| 20:08.06 | Shirik | ... what? |
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| 20:08.58 | nevcairiel | thats what you get for using Qt |
| 20:08.59 | zenzelezz | all QNetworkRequest* are equal, but some QNetworkRequest* are more equal than others |
| 20:09.44 | Shirik | hey Qt is awesome |
| 20:09.50 | zenzelezz | are you still using VS? |
| 20:09.54 | Shirik | yup |
| 20:09.59 | Shirik | Qt integrates with VS |
| 20:10.31 | zenzelezz | did you try compiling it with whatever compiler comes with the QCreator thing? Just to see if it still gives an error? |
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| 20:10.49 | Shirik | I don't think it came with one because I downloaded the VS-specific one |
| 20:10.59 | zenzelezz | ah |
| 20:15.21 | mikma | lol lol lol |
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| 20:23.15 | OhGrimes | Is there a function to check altitude? |
| 20:23.55 | Adys | No |
| 20:24.30 | OhGrimes | Bummer! |
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| 20:29.04 | zenzelezz | ... |
| 20:29.16 | industrial | "Wrmonopoiy <ORDER Of BROTHERHOOD>" |
| 20:29.34 | industrial | facepalmdeskfloor |
| 20:31.08 | industrial | <GOOD NEWS EVERYONE> <-- better. |
| 20:32.11 | zenzelezz | I suppose it might not be funny as such, but I think the best guild name I've seen so far is "Quietly Confident" |
| 20:33.15 | zenzelezz | part of what made that cool was that they actually were one of (maybe the) top guild on that server |
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| 20:39.51 | olafski | nice.. enter a normal nexus run and the paladin healer goes "oh f*ck. must heal? suck dick" |
| 20:39.54 | olafski | and then proceeds to tank.. |
| 20:41.19 | zenzelezz | was there pain? |
| 20:41.48 | olafski | not sure yet |
| 20:41.50 | olafski | he is lvl 80 :P |
| 20:42.02 | olafski | we'll see how it goes, I'm tagging along for now :P |
| 20:42.09 | olafski | not like I can do much damage as prot warrior |
| 20:44.20 | Dagmar | I'd report him |
| 20:44.41 | Dagmar | I mean, WTF... queuing as a healer and then refusing to do that role? |
| 20:47.32 | Arathros | lol |
| 20:47.50 | Arathros | havent heard that one before |
| 20:49.38 | olafski | can you report people for that? |
| 20:50.09 | Arathros | wish you could lol |
| 20:50.13 | Arathros | a fun fact |
| 20:50.30 | zenzelezz | I don't see why you couldn't. It might not result in anything though |
| 20:50.35 | Arathros | the churchyard... thats danish for the graveyard ;P |
| 20:50.54 | Arathros | the most crappy thing is that when defending in WSG, i was reported by some idiot |
| 20:51.06 | Arathros | and resulted in getting kicked because i didnt get in combat |
| 20:51.10 | Arathros | I WAS DEFENDING omg |
| 20:51.19 | Arathros | and then the ½ hour fucking debuff lol |
| 20:51.40 | olafski | ticket opened.. guess it might at least make me feel better :P |
| 20:53.20 | olafski | and I get to train my Guns skill :) |
| 20:55.18 | Arathros | aaah its dungeon ;P |
| 20:55.24 | Arathros | I'm lvl 41 with lvl 30 gear ;P |
| 20:55.34 | Arathros | ups bg's = lvl too fast |
| 20:55.44 | zenzelezz | ups? |
| 20:55.58 | Arathros | danish woups |
| 20:56.15 | Arathros | or "oh Shit!" |
| 20:58.12 | zenzelezz | hm, battlegrounds... I think I did WSG once, AB maybe three times on my first character back in... 06? |
| 20:58.33 | Dagmar | You could maybe go spend a whole 30g at that level and put yourself in gear that doesn't suck |
| 20:59.48 | Arathros | hehe |
| 20:59.54 | Arathros | now winning WSG = ½ lvl |
| 20:59.58 | Arathros | loosing = 3 bars |
| 21:00.08 | Dagmar | If you're one of the classes that changes from leather to mail at 40, you should be ashamed of yourself |
| 21:00.14 | Arathros | Priest ;P |
| 21:00.30 | Dagmar | okay, so +int/+sp cloth. Go buy some greens, man |
| 21:00.42 | Arathros | they call me useless even though we are 2 people defending. me and some random 39.. i fear and slow down like carzy so he gets kill and i recap. |
| 21:00.50 | Dagmar | Ten levels down in gear is significantly weaker than you should be |
| 21:00.59 | Arathros | and last wsg i had 14 recaps ;P |
| 21:01.04 | zenzelezz | at least when you're reaching those levels |
| 21:01.18 | Arathros | ye |
| 21:01.42 | Dagmar | Yeah well I can't help but think that you'll have ven more recaps and possibly the tank might even survive a few times if you had all the extra mana and sp you're missing |
| 21:01.45 | Arathros | but still doing a good job in defending is not reason to call me useles.. oh and gear not entirely true |
| 21:01.54 | Arathros | got the hat neck from SM and hierlooms |
| 21:02.10 | Dagmar | No, gear is plain math. Sub 50 it's not even hard math. Your bars are small and flaccid. |
| 21:02.14 | Dagmar | You need moar numberz. |
| 21:02.18 | Arathros | ye |
| 21:02.37 | Dagmar | Spend the pittance, man. Your faction will thank you for it. |
| 21:02.57 | Arathros | hehe only about 15 wsg's till i hit AV ;P |
| 21:09.28 | olafski | 30g is a lot of gold dagmar! |
| 21:09.34 | Dagmar | For who? |
| 21:09.38 | olafski | no clue |
| 21:09.41 | Dagmar | Someone on their first toon who is level 8? |
| 21:09.45 | olafski | not for him, if he has heirlooms he has a lvl 80 ;) |
| 21:09.57 | Dagmar | 30g is like, three stacks of copper |
| 21:10.01 | Dagmar | *maybe* |
| 21:10.46 | olafski | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:10.48 | Dagmar | Heck I'm just impressed that these economies haven't utterly collapsed, actually |
| 21:10.58 | olafski | I made 2500g by the time I reached 60 |
| 21:10.59 | Dagmar | EQII's economy is effed beyond belief. |
| 21:11.13 | DWSR | wtf is TSG in 3s? |
| 21:11.59 | Dagmar | The "blue" equivalent tradeskill drops are gouged up to the point where the best thing you can do at level ~35 is just spend the five to six hours endlessly hunting ground spawns to get just *one* and then sell it |
| 21:12.14 | Dagmar | It will sell for more money than your toon has made doing everything up to that point. |
| 21:12.21 | Dagmar | That right there is broken. |
| 21:12.35 | olafski | kind of ;P |
| 21:13.23 | Dagmar | Considering those drops give you _more powerful spells_ it's severely broken |
| 21:14.31 | Dagmar | At least in Blizz-world the exchange between 1st toon noobs and max-level toons results in almost an even footing with 80's paying lots for loot for their twink characters, but it doesn't result in any serious gear disparity |
| 21:15.55 | Dagmar | ...plus I don't know of anything that really takes more than about 15 minutes banging on a mob to get, that's not meant to be really super-rare |
| 21:16.34 | Dagmar | I really expected to be twinking from my AH alt to gear up my new 'lock |
| 21:16.43 | Dagmar | The lock is currently richer than my freaking 80's |
| 21:16.47 | *** join/#wowuidev spode (spode@213.21.119.83) |
| 21:16.48 | alestane | Just had to try and explain "don't stand in the green gas" to a spanish-speaking tank. |
| 21:18.01 | alestane | I hate Scholo. |
| 21:18.08 | alestane | Well, I hate those mobs in Scholo. |
| 21:18.14 | Dagmar | GASSE VERDE ES MUY MALO |
| 21:18.20 | DWSR | ^ |
| 21:18.30 | alestane | Started with "verde = mal grande" and went from there. |
| 21:19.23 | alestane | He never figured it out...just whined "healer..." |
| 21:19.23 | Jamash | Ungood más el doble |
| 21:19.23 | Dagmar | This would be because you were telling him (afaik) that green equals badly large |
| 21:19.23 | alestane | I never claimed to speak good spanish. |
| 21:19.25 | Dagmar | Watch more Sabado Gigante |
| 21:19.46 | alestane | A guildie advised me to try "kitate del verde" which didn't seem to work any better. |
| 21:19.51 | Dagmar | It's a little odd that hosts of children's shows are wearing incredibly hot leather catsuits most of the time, but it's never bothered me enough to not watch it |
| 21:20.06 | alestane | Which show is this? |
| 21:20.10 | Dagmar | Sabado Gigante |
| 21:20.22 | Dagmar | Hell, *most* hispanic kids' morning shows for that matter. |
| 21:20.24 | Dagmar | Xuxa |
| 21:20.36 | Dagmar | licks his lips and looks a little distracted |
| 21:20.57 | alestane | Most of my spanish I picked up from Radio Shack customers who needed cell phones. |
| 21:21.34 | Jamash | blizzard should put an automatic translator into wow |
| 21:21.34 | Dagmar | Well, while I was in SF it was sort of a regular Saturday morning thing to pack a bowl and watch mexican kids shows |
| 21:21.48 | alestane | So I learned things like "can I see your ID" and "that's for a new two-year contract" but not "where's the bathroom anyway" (which I can generally say by now anyway). |
| 21:21.49 | Jamash | endless hilarity would ensue |
| 21:21.52 | Dagmar | I was as shocked as anyone when I realized I could speak spanish |
| 21:22.21 | Jamash | so you're saying that pot and children's TV are the keys to learning a new language? |
| 21:22.21 | alestane | "Je parle le francais maitenant! Incroyable!" |
| 21:22.48 | Jamash | no wonder I did so badly in college japanese |
| 21:23.04 | alestane | I never needed weed to learn Japanese, just anime. |
| 21:23.12 | alestane | And Cornell japanese classes. |
| 21:23.25 | Dagmar | Seriously tho... http://images.google.com/images?q=xuxa <-- this chick hosts children's educational programming in a delicious looking catsuit |
| 21:23.42 | Jamash | well you gotta keep the parents interested somehow |
| 21:23.52 | Dagmar | Mexicans have a serious thing for getting kids started early in being interested in the opposite sex |
| 21:24.06 | Dagmar | Jamash: It definitely kept us interested |
| 21:24.36 | Dagmar | I watched that show practically every saturday morning for almost two years |
| 21:25.20 | Dagmar | You pick up the important stuff remarkably quickly |
| 21:25.46 | Dagmar | I had some spanish in high school, but it wasn't exactly immersion, and it was a kinda crappy public school |
| 21:25.59 | Dagmar | Lots of obsessing over conjugating verbs, not much practical usage |
| 21:26.13 | Jamash | yeah I hate the way languages are taught in school |
| 21:26.32 | Shadowed | most stuff is taught in school* |
| 21:26.38 | Jamash | true that |
| 21:26.38 | Fisker | slaps Dagmar around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:26.46 | Fisker | hey Shadowed |
| 21:26.55 | Fisker | give me 50% of your earnings on EA |
| 21:26.55 | Dagmar | Hey don't get mad at me just because you can't find a way to make learning a foriegn language fun |
| 21:26.58 | Dagmar | I wans't trying to learn |
| 21:26.59 | Fisker | since you stole my idea!1 |
| 21:27.00 | Fisker | or i sue |
| 21:27.03 | Fisker | suuuuuueeeee |
| 21:27.04 | Dagmar | I was generally just trying to wake up |
| 21:27.20 | Jamash | he'll sue you with fire |
| 21:28.36 | Arathros | they should lock people with spanish, german and russian IP's to their selected realms. |
| 21:29.23 | alestane | At least in Spanish I know a few words. All I can really say in German is "plattenspieler." |
| 21:29.35 | Arathros | lol |
| 21:29.45 | Arathros | spanish Si Senior... ON A STEEK |
| 21:29.53 | DWSR | rofl |
| 21:29.55 | Fisker | alestane |
| 21:29.59 | Jamash | him pending un para bending |
| 21:30.01 | Fisker | so Shadowed |
| 21:30.07 | Arathros | German... Sieg Something ;P and MEnchenapfe |
| 21:30.13 | alestane | At least in Spanish I can say "Cerveza por favor." |
| 21:30.14 | Arathros | Russian .. nostrovia |
| 21:30.14 | Fisker | i see you're running away scared |
| 21:30.16 | Fisker | :3 |
| 21:30.18 | Shadowed | I will give you 50% of what I make off of EA right now |
| 21:30.20 | Shadowed | which is 0% |
| 21:30.22 | Shadowed | $0* |
| 21:30.24 | DWSR | Meinkampf? |
| 21:30.26 | Shadowed | enjoy your split |
| 21:30.42 | Arathros | i know a bit german |
| 21:30.56 | alestane | "For those who don't know, that's "record player." |
| 21:31.01 | Arathros | but when i see those GERMAN item links. i just say. that ruins the game |
| 21:31.19 | nevcairiel | I am german on a geramn realm, and it still ruins the game for me |
| 21:31.24 | nevcairiel | so dont go complain! |
| 21:31.33 | Arathros | nevcairiel how lol |
| 21:31.41 | DWSR | nevcairiel: You mean because it's a paragraph for some of the item links from LK? |
| 21:31.49 | Fisker | you want my paypal then Shadowed ? |
| 21:31.51 | nevcairiel | clearly i play with a english client |
| 21:31.57 | Shadowed | send the bill to nevcairiel |
| 21:32.02 | DWSR | Clearly. |
| 21:32.04 | Arathros | nevcairiel good boy.. move over to the english realms then |
| 21:33.07 | Gnarfoz | why |
| 21:33.21 | Arathros | english clients.. english servers |
| 21:33.23 | Jamash | takes a look at EA. |
| 21:33.24 | Gnarfoz | so we can enjoy english idiots PLUS everyone else who doesn't have their own language realms? |
| 21:33.29 | Jamash | gah numbers |
| 21:33.30 | Arathros | erman client.. should only see german servers. |
| 21:33.34 | Gnarfoz | thanks, we'll stick to german idiots |
| 21:33.50 | Gnarfoz | Arathros: that's not the same as you were saying just now |
| 21:33.53 | Arathros | try trade when 2 people are trying to sell items you have no fucking clue what is in german. thats FailSell communication |
| 21:34.08 | Gnarfoz | are you 14? what is "FailSell" |
| 21:34.16 | nevcairiel | at least you can click the item link and see the item :p |
| 21:34.18 | Gnarfoz | use actual words :F |
| 21:34.18 | Dagmar | alestane: Wrong. That's "dos cervezas, por favor." |
| 21:34.21 | DWSR | Arathros: so write an addon that takes item links, uses the IDs and translates them to local? |
| 21:34.22 | Arathros | Gnarfoz naa easier solution.. like US client only sees the US servers.. make that for language base aswell |
| 21:34.29 | Gnarfoz | Arathros: no thanks? |
| 21:34.36 | Arathros | FailBlog |
| 21:34.38 | Gnarfoz | Arathros: I'd rather not play on realms hosted in London |
| 21:34.41 | nevcairiel | Doesnt the US client actually see the mexican servers? |
| 21:34.46 | DWSR | yes |
| 21:34.48 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: it does |
| 21:34.55 | DWSR | Also sees Oceanic servers. |
| 21:34.56 | alestane | That depends on how thirsty you are, Dagmar, and whether or not you have company. |
| 21:34.59 | Jamash | we visit on weekends and spring break |
| 21:35.06 | Gnarfoz | there is only US/EU/RU/KR/TW/CN, last I checked. |
| 21:35.11 | Dagmar | estoy muy sediento |
| 21:35.21 | Arathros | Gnarfoz Ru is under EU |
| 21:35.24 | alestane | "I'm very lazy?" |
| 21:35.27 | Gnarfoz | Arathros: it is not. |
| 21:35.44 | DWSR | Gnarfoz: There's Aussie realms as well, I think. |
| 21:35.47 | Gnarfoz | Arathros: they are their own service region, independent servers, etc. |
| 21:35.49 | Gnarfoz | DWSR: no |
| 21:35.55 | Arathros | did they split them? not been on realmlist for about ½ year lol |
| 21:35.57 | Gnarfoz | DWSR: just US realms marked as oceanic |
| 21:36.01 | Jamash | Naga robó mi bicicleta |
| 21:36.06 | Gnarfoz | Arathros: they split them off 2 years ago or something |
| 21:36.07 | DWSR | Ah. |
| 21:36.16 | Jamash | they're on a separate tab at the bottom of realm select |
| 21:36.25 | DWSR | Yes, I know. :P |
| 21:36.25 | Jamash | but they're still hosted in the US |
| 21:36.27 | DWSR | has the US client. |
| 21:36.29 | Arathros | so they arent splitted.. still under EU |
| 21:36.34 | Gnarfoz | closed 3 (or 4?) english realms that were more or less empty after all the russians moved to the RU servers |
| 21:36.40 | Gnarfoz | Arathros: what... are you not listening. |
| 21:36.49 | Arathros | [23:36:21] <Jamash> they're on a separate tab at the bottom of realm select |
| 21:36.51 | Arathros | so under EU still |
| 21:36.54 | Gnarfoz | Arathros: RU has their own service region, independant of EU. |
| 21:36.58 | Arathros | Fuck this logging in to see |
| 21:37.04 | Jamash | I was talking about oceanic |
| 21:37.08 | Gnarfoz | Arathros: he's takling about oceanic realms, pay attention |
| 21:37.11 | DWSR | Arathros: He's talking about the Oceanic realms on the US client. |
| 21:37.14 | DWSR | Pay the fuck attention. |
| 21:37.17 | Gnarfoz | :P |
| 21:37.17 | Jamash | and mexican |
| 21:37.24 | Gnarfoz | hmmm mexican. |
| 21:37.25 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 21:37.25 | Arathros | i have monochrome mirc.. 2 colors. hard to keep track ;P |
| 21:37.36 | nevcairiel | ru have their own zone because the silly russian clients cant talk to non-russian servers |
| 21:37.41 | nevcairiel | they cant even use an english client |
| 21:37.41 | Arathros | and trying to write an book essay so not reading 100% |
| 21:38.07 | Arathros | we have a russian tab |
| 21:38.19 | Arathros | they should do that for all the langauges |
| 21:38.22 | Gnarfoz | RU got the "well, soviets go that way -->" shaft |
| 21:38.35 | Arathros | they should do that for german and french and spanish |
| 21:38.37 | Gnarfoz | Arathros: again, no thanks |
| 21:38.47 | Gnarfoz | I want to play with the english client on german realms |
| 21:38.48 | Arathros | Gnarfoz yes please |
| 21:38.52 | Gnarfoz | so fuck your shitty idea :p |
| 21:38.53 | Jamash | in soviet russia realm migrates you |
| 21:38.59 | Arathros | Jamash hehe |
| 21:39.07 | Gnarfoz | I like my sub 20ms latency |
| 21:39.18 | Arathros | Gnarfoz so use the IP restriction instead... German ip's to german realm no matter client? |
| 21:39.28 | Gnarfoz | that's never going to work |
| 21:39.32 | Arathros | i play on french located server with 18ms |
| 21:39.41 | Gnarfoz | since you have no 100% guarantee that you get the geolocation right |
| 21:40.00 | Jamash | plus people want to be able to play while on vacation |
| 21:40.06 | Gnarfoz | what the hell are you doing on a french server, you're not even obeying your own rules :D |
| 21:40.10 | Arathros | what about this |
| 21:40.19 | Gnarfoz | what about we change nothing? :D |
| 21:40.22 | Arathros | german client can only see german servers |
| 21:40.29 | Arathros | and english client cna see all |
| 21:40.41 | Arathros | same with other languages |
| 21:40.48 | Gnarfoz | there is no reason for changing the status quo |
| 21:40.48 | nevcairiel | why would you do that? |
| 21:41.00 | DWSR | Because English is obviously the best language :P |
| 21:41.03 | Gnarfoz | you could click the itemlink and get the tooltip in the language of your client |
| 21:41.04 | Arathros | to keep my trades clean of unreadable funnywords ;P |
| 21:41.12 | Jamash | why not just install a chat filter addon |
| 21:41.15 | nevcairiel | you still end up with dutch people on english servers that talk to you in dutch |
| 21:41.28 | Arathros | pretty hefty chats going in fast speeds. I'm not the only one complaining |
| 21:41.37 | Gnarfoz | don't speak for others |
| 21:41.40 | Arathros | but they cant ruin links ;P |
| 21:41.54 | Gnarfoz | you could also make an addon that replaces itemlink text with the text in the language of the client, based on the item's ID |
| 21:41.57 | Jamash | well then they should create Trade - English and Trade - German and Trade - Esperanto |
| 21:42.09 | Gnarfoz | wonder why something like this doesn't exist, yet, if the problem is as serious as you make it out to be |
| 21:42.15 | Gnarfoz | Jamash: augh no |
| 21:42.20 | Gnarfoz | Jamash: that's how it was before patch 1.4 |
| 21:42.27 | nevcairiel | Jamash: they should just hand out pink glasses to the complainers and be done with it |
| 21:42.51 | Jamash | Gnarfoz: what was the problem with that? |
| 21:43.08 | Gnarfoz | Jamash: you only see ~20 people when playing with the "wrong" client for your server? |
| 21:43.11 | Jamash | ah |
| 21:43.14 | Gnarfoz | ^^ |
| 21:43.20 | Jamash | well then make it optional |
| 21:43.28 | Gnarfoz | just make WoW optional |
| 21:43.31 | Gnarfoz | that'd be a good change |
| 21:43.33 | Jamash | there you go |
| 21:43.38 | foxlit | Tbh, just have the client translate item links for you |
| 21:43.52 | nevcairiel | would be a trivial addon |
| 21:43.53 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: nevcairiel: is my addon suggestion technically possible? I can't think of anything that would prevent it |
| 21:43.54 | foxlit | You can (almost) do it in addon code |
| 21:44.00 | Gnarfoz | oops, double address ^^ |
| 21:44.02 | Fisker | i will f you up Gnarfoz |
| 21:44.04 | Jamash | they'd have to install the item db on the server wouldn't they? |
| 21:44.20 | Gnarfoz | Jamash: the what? :D the server handles items already ;) |
| 21:44.25 | nevcairiel | huh |
| 21:44.32 | Jamash | yeah but it returns item names in its native language |
| 21:44.33 | nevcairiel | as long as you have the item cached, you get the real name |
| 21:44.35 | foxlit | Gnarfoz: you may have issues with items not in cache |
| 21:44.40 | Gnarfoz | Jamash: no, your client does that |
| 21:44.43 | Jamash | orly |
| 21:44.47 | Jamash | well IDK then |
| 21:45.05 | foxlit | But it's a slight drawback that would only happen at most once per item per patch |
| 21:45.15 | nevcairiel | a tooltip lookup for an unknown item probably takes too long for chat |
| 21:45.19 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: well, hm. but since someone was able to write it in public chat, it's safe to assume the server knows it, and thus, the addon could safely request the item from the server |
| 21:45.32 | Jamash | oh I see you want to replace the item names in chat, not when you click on them |
| 21:45.32 | Gnarfoz | yeah, the latency would probably be the killer =\ |
| 21:45.43 | Gnarfoz | Jamash: it's the same functionality, really |
| 21:45.52 | Jamash | ok |
| 21:45.55 | Gnarfoz | it would just automate it |
| 21:45.57 | nevcairiel | when you click on it, you query the server for the real item data |
| 21:45.58 | Fisker | nevcairiel Gnarfoz foxlit |
| 21:46.11 | nevcairiel | item names can be forged |
| 21:46.15 | nevcairiel | or be in any other language |
| 21:46.24 | Gnarfoz | it would automatically "click" the item link, get the name this gets you, and modify the text in chat |
| 21:46.30 | foxlit | I thought there was validation |
| 21:46.32 | Gnarfoz | there is |
| 21:46.41 | nevcairiel | do they validate the names now? |
| 21:46.42 | foxlit | Or you'd see a lot more [F'ing pants of F'ing] |
| 21:46.44 | Gnarfoz | you can't link german items from the english client |
| 21:46.50 | foxlit | nevcairiel: your client probably validates outgoing links. |
| 21:46.53 | Gnarfoz | except when re-linking something from chat |
| 21:47.02 | nevcairiel | even when you re-link, its translated these days |
| 21:47.06 | Gnarfoz | (and I wonder how the one can work but not the other) |
| 21:47.10 | nevcairiel | i tried that just last week |
| 21:47.54 | Gnarfoz | hum? let's say someone links [Wasser], I could open my chat edit box, shift-click that, and press enter, and it'd still be [Wasser], not [Water] |
| 21:47.59 | nevcairiel | aaaanyway, sleeptimes |
| 21:48.12 | Gnarfoz | at least that's what my memory says |
| 21:48.20 | nevcairiel | i tried that last week and it didnt work |
| 21:48.24 | Gnarfoz | curious |
| 21:48.33 | Gnarfoz | memory corruption! |
| 21:48.34 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 21:48.59 | foxlit | Watch it, you'll dereference some silly pointer and be killed for causing a segfault. |
| 21:49.15 | nevcairiel | brain death due to segfault |
| 21:49.21 | nevcairiel | better clean up your stack |
| 21:50.17 | nevcairiel | anyway, really sleepz now |
| 21:50.22 | Gnarfoz | installs ASLR, W^X and a ramdisk |
| 21:50.28 | Lunessa | First iPad into the shop for help to connect to wireless and e-mail. |
| 21:52.13 | foxlit | Mail them profiles. |
| 21:52.55 | Lunessa | *shrug* the docs I wrote for the iPhone work just fine. |
| 21:53.15 | Gnarfoz | Lunessa: http://i.imgur.com/It9To.png ? ^^ |
| 21:53.16 | Fisker | Lunessa i got your solution |
| 21:53.19 | Fisker | throw it out |
| 21:53.22 | Fisker | throw them out |
| 21:53.28 | Lunessa | Gnarfoz: LOL |
| 21:53.36 | Arathros | Signet of Edward the odd.. pricecheck? |
| 21:53.54 | foxlit | Heh |
| 21:53.56 | Lunessa | Fisker: Just because you didn't get one doesn't mean you need to be mad at everyone who did. |
| 21:53.57 | Fisker | do it Lunessa |
| 21:53.59 | foxlit | Blizzard lost to bioware |
| 21:54.16 | Jamash | lost what? |
| 21:54.17 | Fisker | owned foxlit |
| 21:54.27 | Fisker | Lunessa i'm not mad because i didn't get one |
| 21:54.27 | foxlit | escapist voting |
| 21:54.35 | foxlit | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/532.184371-Poll-Round-5-Field-of-Four-2-Blizzard-vs-1-BioWare-VOTING-CLOSED-PLEASE-STAY-TUNED |
| 21:54.37 | Fisker | i'm mad because it's a piece of shit that supports apple |
| 21:54.43 | Lunessa | Fisker: My way is funnier. |
| 21:54.45 | Fisker | which is also a piece of shit |
| 21:54.49 | Fisker | no! |
| 21:55.24 | Jamash | apple makes a fine podcast aggregator |
| 21:55.48 | Fisker | no Jamash |
| 21:55.56 | Fisker | Apple makes nothing that's fine or even good |
| 21:56.04 | *** join/#wowuidev pompy (~Mike@c-68-38-51-80.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 21:56.13 | foxlit | Fisker: I can't hear you over the sound of my iPod. |
| 21:57.21 | Fisker | that's ok, i can't hear you over the sound of my mp3 player that can play more than one format until finally bending over to public pressure |
| 21:57.48 | Fisker | Oh wait, my mp3 player is a mobile |
| 21:58.05 | Fisker | Because mp3 players stopped being nessecary around 5 years ago |
| 21:59.59 | Jamash | I am disappointed in the lack of iPad sidetalkin' images on the interwebs |
| 22:00.56 | DWSR | Fisker: There's something to be said for device specialization |
| 22:01.05 | Lunessa | I'm sorry Fisker, I can't hear you. I'm talking on my iPhone. |
| 22:01.08 | DWSR | Case in point: Samsung P3 vs. Sony Ericcson w580i |
| 22:01.25 | Jamash | I'm sorry, I can't hear you over my dad's harpsichord music |
| 22:02.10 | DWSR | is waiting for the chmode +m from Shirik followed by Sorry, Fisker, I can't hear you over IRC |
| 22:02.40 | Gnarfoz | Lunessa: iPhone supports calls now? neat! |
| 22:02.44 | Lunessa | On IRC, no one can hear you scream. |
| 22:02.48 | Arathros | sorry i cant hear you over my micro harpe music |
| 22:03.04 | Fisker | Lunessa i can't hear you over my phone that doubles as a mp3 player |
| 22:03.25 | Gnarfoz | my phone does that, too, sadly, it doesn't play FLAC |
| 22:03.26 | Gnarfoz | :( |
| 22:03.30 | Lunessa | Funny, mine does that too. And has a camera, video player, GPS and all kinds of apps. |
| 22:03.44 | Jamash | nerrrrrrd fiiiiiight |
| 22:03.48 | Fisker | so does mine |
| 22:03.56 | Fisker | but mine is still better |
| 22:04.11 | Fisker | also *unzips* bigger |
| 22:04.24 | Arathros | my phone can play strippoker. and send text.. thats about what i need it for lol |
| 22:04.35 | Jamash | I miss my old phone, it had arkanoid |
| 22:04.42 | Lunessa | Fisker: Yeah, lay that shit out on the table so we can all point and laugh. |
| 22:05.08 | Arathros | it need a lenght to be able to lay.. or just get to the table |
| 22:05.16 | Fisker | Well atleast they don't cry at it, like yours |
| 22:05.17 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 22:05.39 | Arathros | thats tears of joy my pain. ;P |
| 22:05.39 | foxlit | Besides, when iTable comes out, it'll be awesome. |
| 22:05.47 | Fisker | i want the iMat |
| 22:05.51 | Arathros | my friend lol |
| 22:06.02 | Arathros | whats up with blizzards naming now |
| 22:06.08 | Arathros | Gunship Captain's Mittens |
| 22:06.13 | Lunessa | Fisker: I know, I'm so sad when they cry. It's like they've never felt pain before. |
| 22:06.15 | Arathros | sounds more like a cat than gloves |
| 22:06.31 | foxlit | Mittens make sense. I wonder about the model, though |
| 22:07.07 | foxlit | wtf. |
| 22:07.13 | foxlit | It doesn't cover fingers at all. |
| 22:07.46 | Lunessa | foxlit: Name fail? |
| 22:07.51 | foxlit | Name fail indeed. |
| 22:08.58 | Fisker | there's one good argument for keeping patents |
| 22:09.07 | Fisker | to keep apple from doing anything good |
| 22:10.08 | Fisker | one down! |
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| 22:50.49 | alestane | So aftering queueing up for Strat Live because I need Balnazzar, my long-awaited random group decides to zerg dead first. |
| 22:51.13 | alestane | Leaving me out of time to dungeon by the time they declare it's time to do live because Baron is dead. |
| 22:51.16 | alestane | Is that typical? |
| 22:51.52 | ZorbaTHut | anyone who's actually doing Strat via LFD is probably not exactly the best player |
| 22:51.57 | Dagmar | I'd have bounced out of there hte moment they decided to do something that didn't queue for |
| 22:52.23 | ZorbaTHut | there's going to be a few very rare people who are doing it for quests, and a lot of people who are mistakenly trying to do it to gear up for Outland. |
| 22:52.48 | alestane | I'm doing it because I want to finish the quests before leaving the old world behind. Yes, I know I would gear and level faster doing outland. |
| 23:01.30 | Dagmar | I'm still peeved that corpse explosion was nerfed. |
| 23:01.42 | Dagmar | THat was one of hte places you could literally turn your screen into a fountain of gore. |
| 23:02.06 | Dagmar | It was truly a sight to behold. |
| 23:02.34 | Dagmar | Wall of giblets > wall of numbers |
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| 23:53.33 | Cide | Shirik! |
| 23:53.35 | Cide | time for some sc2? |
| 23:55.49 | Fisker | were you ever a threat? |
| 23:56.21 | DWSR | It was merely a setback. |
| 23:56.57 | Cide | you're a setback |
| 23:58.47 | DWSR | merely. |
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