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| 00:01.02 | Wobin | Fisker, but... |
| 00:01.05 | Wobin | where's the fun in that |
| 00:01.06 | Wobin | ? |
| 00:01.55 | Fisker | idk |
| 00:04.15 | Fisker | btw Wobin i am sad :( |
| 00:04.25 | Wobin | Why's that, Fisker? |
| 00:04.28 | Fisker | i never got to know how running wow in a seperate shell protected it from warden |
| 00:04.37 | Fisker | Shirik keeps telling me because it's like a turtle shell |
| 00:04.37 | Wobin | Well. |
| 00:04.45 | Wobin | You know how turtles... |
| 00:04.45 | Fisker | and you can't penetrate a turtle's shell with a stick |
| 00:04.48 | Wobin | well, yeah |
| 00:05.08 | Wobin | You ever see a policeman order a turtle to go somewhere? |
| 00:05.23 | Fisker | But every time i point out their inconsistencies with their arguments they just ignored it and made a totally new argument :( |
| 00:05.26 | Fisker | So i got tir'd |
| 00:05.40 | Fisker | and my mommy got scared and told me to go live with my auntie and uncle in bel air |
| 00:05.59 | Wobin | *pow* |
| 00:06.02 | Fisker | But then they locked the thread when i called them out on it :( |
| 00:06.17 | Fisker | so now i have noone to troll |
| 00:06.21 | Wobin | damn that prince |
| 00:06.25 | Fisker | yeah |
| 00:06.39 | Dagmar | That's not true. |
| 00:06.47 | Dagmar | There's always Scientologists to troll. |
| 00:06.51 | Fisker | true |
| 00:06.56 | Fisker | but i want to troll on the wow forums |
| 00:07.44 | Wobin | Develop a scientologiesqe religion but make it Draenei instead =) |
| 00:07.54 | Wobin | with Xen'u |
| 00:07.56 | Dagmar | Isn't jumping off bridges more fun that trolling the forums? |
| 00:08.01 | Dagmar | s/that/than/; |
| 00:08.19 | Dagmar | Lots of idiots troll the forums. If you troll them, you'll just be one in a crowd. |
| 00:08.24 | Dagmar | It takes *balls* to troll gravity |
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| 00:09.30 | Wobin | man, when gravity figures out it's been trolled, it puts you down... -hard- |
| 00:09.57 | Dagmar | It's a lot of fun before that happens. You just have to keep from taking things too far. |
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| 00:18.44 | Fisker | PROBLEM OFFICEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER *splat* |
| 00:18.58 | Shirik | woah |
| 00:19.02 | Shirik | rsync error: received SIGINT, SIGTERM, or SIGHUP (code 20) at rsync.c(544) [generator=3.0.6] |
| 00:19.03 | Shirik | rsync error: received SIGUSR1 (code 19) at main.c(1285) [receiver=3.0.6] |
| 00:19.09 | Fisker | install windows |
| 00:19.11 | Fisker | problem solved |
| 00:19.20 | Fisker | anyway Dagmar i bought a Fermi |
| 00:19.28 | Fisker | so i'm trolling the laws of...thermodynamics? |
| 00:20.09 | Shirik | considering there's nothing you don't troll, sounds about accurate |
| 00:20.31 | Fisker | They never got a change to explain the whole shell thing |
| 00:20.44 | Fisker | blue detected massive amounts of win and closed it down beforehand |
| 00:24.41 | tem | I just played the strangest match on scrap station |
| 00:25.14 | tem | a terran opponent lifted his CC off at the start and moved to the island between the two bases |
| 00:25.27 | tem | but I had an overlord there |
| 00:25.31 | tem | so he knew I knew |
| 00:25.31 | foxlit | Hah. |
| 00:25.37 | tem | but he didn't build any turrets |
| 00:25.43 | tem | until I have 15 mutas overtop of him. |
| 00:25.43 | Wobin | and you knew he knew you knew |
| 00:25.57 | tem | it was... strange |
| 00:26.12 | foxlit | But you basically lose as soon as you pull that trick. |
| 00:26.12 | tem | and then I discovered that he left an scv or two back on the "mainland" |
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| 00:26.26 | foxlit | tem: CC carries 5. |
| 00:26.28 | tem | and built a few raxes and a factory waaay down south |
| 00:26.34 | tem | ah and you start with 6 |
| 00:27.11 | tem | I dunno |
| 00:27.26 | tem | it just seems like a really risky and oddball strat to use vs a zerg opponent who isn't braindead |
| 00:27.28 | Fisker | lolol |
| 00:27.31 | Fisker | 420p = high-res |
| 00:27.34 | Fisker | gj hulu |
| 00:28.02 | zenzelezz | duh Fisker, it's got "p" at the end, that's the definitive proof that something is high-definition! |
| 00:28.04 | foxlit | It's a failure against anyone |
| 00:28.15 | foxlit | Sure, you might escape preliminary ground attacks. |
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| 00:28.27 | `-FISKER_Q | true zenzelezz |
| 00:28.27 | foxlit | But you've handed over map control on a silver platter. |
| 00:29.13 | tem|afk | foxlit, pretty much |
| 00:29.23 | tem|afk | I didn't have to defend against a ground assault at the start at all |
| 00:29.35 | foxlit | Zerg have some very annoying early-game rushes, though, and scrap station has a rather wide choke |
| 00:29.36 | tem|afk | so I just did a super fast expand and didn't really build much of anything until I had a spire up |
| 00:30.10 | foxlit | So I imagine the thinking was like "Ha! That'll stop him from mass-zergling/roaching me to death!" |
| 00:32.23 | foxlit | My zerg skills are rather lousy :( |
| 00:33.05 | Wobin | foxlit, there are pills to treat premature zerging |
| 00:35.08 | tem|afk | Wobin, you wish |
| 00:35.22 | foxlit | Shows in ZvZ especially. |
| 00:35.35 | foxlit | "Hey, how did that guy get this many roaches?" |
| 00:36.15 | tem|afk | ZvZ is stupid |
| 00:36.33 | tem|afk | it's basically 1 of 3 strategies |
| 00:36.43 | foxlit | Lousy timing on the second hatchery, too :( |
| 00:36.46 | tem|afk | 1) Kill him with roaches before lair tech comes into play |
| 00:37.06 | tem|afk | 2) defend with lings and get mutas before him and win because he has no AA |
| 00:37.09 | Wobin | tem|afk, soon you'll get mail with "IMPRESS YOUR GIRLFRIEND WITH YOUR CURIOUSLY LARGE ZERG RUSH!" |
| 00:37.27 | foxlit | Do zerglings actually work against roaches? |
| 00:37.31 | tem|afk | no |
| 00:37.44 | Fisker | hey ScytheBlade1 |
| 00:37.48 | tem|afk | but you can hold them at bay with a bunch of lings and some crawlers |
| 00:37.49 | foxlit | That's kind of what I thought |
| 00:37.55 | tem|afk | until your spire finishes |
| 00:37.58 | tem|afk | and then you autowin |
| 00:38.03 | tem|afk | I hate ZvZ |
| 00:39.03 | Fisker | http://www.neowin.net/news/opera-still-unhappy-with-browser-ballot <-waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah |
| 00:39.19 | Fisker | Opera won't be happy until the browser ballot is replaced with preinstalled Opera in Windows |
| 00:39.27 | Fisker | haste why don't you go tell Opera ASA to shut the fuck up? |
| 00:42.02 | haste | because I know people who work there! |
| 00:44.43 | Shirik | no autowin |
| 00:44.53 | Shirik | marines vs mutalisks = win |
| 00:46.01 | foxlit | Shirik: yes. But if you're going there, why not a 100-nuke salvo? |
| 00:46.10 | Shirik | a what? |
| 00:46.21 | foxlit | The conversation was about ZvZ matches |
| 00:46.25 | Shirik | oh |
| 00:46.38 | Shirik | don't hydralisks do well against mutalisks? |
| 00:46.49 | foxlit | But if you're spamming roaches, you have no gas. |
| 00:46.49 | Shirik | I bet H+R could win against all mutas |
| 00:47.15 | Shirik | I could see the usefulness of a small muta force to take out economy |
| 00:47.23 | foxlit | Though to be fair, marines > mutalisks only if marines are actively attacking something. |
| 00:47.30 | Shirik | but I don't really believe in massing units; then again, that's what zerg is all about |
| 00:47.49 | foxlit | Mutas win on mobility, making it very very troublesome to defend with marines. |
| 00:48.33 | Shirik | true |
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| 00:54.30 | Cide | fuck mutas |
| 00:54.33 | Fisker | haste |
| 00:54.35 | foxlit | Having been on both ends of that stick, I think the only solution is to take out the zerg base before he can build a spire. |
| 00:54.37 | Fisker | i hope you're not friends with them |
| 00:54.54 | Cide | I still find it annoying that protoss needs to build phoenixes to counter mutas pretty much |
| 00:54.56 | foxlit | Or at least delay that construction by long enough. |
| 00:55.01 | Cide | but phoenixes can only hit air |
| 00:55.06 | Cide | so annoying |
| 00:55.48 | foxlit | Would stalker/sentry not work? |
| 00:55.53 | Cide | they do |
| 00:55.57 | Cide | sentries work very well against mutas |
| 00:56.04 | Cide | when they actually can attack |
| 00:56.08 | Cide | they have really short range |
| 00:56.19 | Cide | and again, mutas' mobility > ground units |
| 00:56.31 | Cide | while phoenixes are the fastest unit in the game I'm pretty sure |
| 00:57.12 | Cide | to counter mutas with sentries means you have to have an army of sentries sitting in your base basically |
| 00:57.23 | Cide | but then you're leaving map control to zerg |
| 00:57.36 | OhGrimes | Let it be known that Protoss is the weakest race. |
| 00:57.40 | OhGrimes | As it stands! |
| 00:57.44 | Cide | disagree |
| 00:57.46 | foxlit | Oh meh. |
| 00:57.54 | foxlit | I'm equally bad at all three. |
| 00:57.55 | Cide | protoss is nice I think |
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| 00:58.09 | Cide | but their lack of anti-air is sad |
| 00:58.10 | foxlit | You must construct additional warp gates. |
| 00:58.25 | OhGrimes | I don't know according to the statistics |
| 00:58.39 | OhGrimes | Protoss make up about 20% of the high-end platinum players |
| 00:59.26 | foxlit | That number isn't really interesting until you tell me what percentage of high-end platinum players play random races. |
| 00:59.29 | OhGrimes | What is the memory limit of a WoW Addon? |
| 00:59.49 | Iriel | your system memory - minus wow's memory |
| 00:59.51 | Iriel | essentially |
| 00:59.52 | industrial | OhGrimes: the limit of your pc. what do you have in mind/ |
| 01:00.06 | OhGrimes | Was just curious, really. |
| 01:00.12 | foxlit | Iriel: I think wow's allocations will fail long before my physical memory runs out. |
| 01:00.20 | OhGrimes | I know it loads soundfiles into the RAM |
| 01:00.25 | OhGrimes | Does it load music as well |
| 01:00.26 | OhGrimes | ? |
| 01:00.27 | Iriel | Depends how much memory you have 8-) |
| 01:00.36 | OhGrimes | What am I saying. |
| 01:01.24 | OhGrimes | If my mod plays a 5 megabyte custom MP3 for example, it will load the entire 5 megs automatically. |
| 01:01.48 | OhGrimes | If it's under music rather than a soundfile. |
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| 01:02.08 | nevcairiel | afaik, its not permanently loaded in memory |
| 01:02.11 | Cide | it's not something you have to worry about |
| 01:02.17 | OhGrimes | Oh. Hm. |
| 01:02.31 | Cide | I think most computers capable of running wow can also run a soundfile in the background |
| 01:02.47 | OhGrimes | I'm talking about more if I had a library of music files. |
| 01:02.51 | OhGrimes | But yeah. It has to work. |
| 01:02.55 | OhGrimes | Since there's mods that already do that. |
| 01:02.58 | Fisker | naw Cide |
| 01:04.24 | Dagmar | You can forget about any latency caused by that data having to be accessed on demand instead of being cached |
| 01:04.37 | Dagmar | It'll be nothing compared to latency from the other client through the server |
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| 01:29.21 | DWSR | Sherlock Holmes: FANTASTIC. |
| 01:29.53 | DWSR | No. |
| 01:29.54 | DWSR | Really. |
| 01:29.56 | DWSR | FANTASTIC. |
| 01:30.30 | DWSR | wow. |
| 01:30.36 | DWSR | I just had 5 zeros in my authenticator code. |
| 01:32.46 | Wobin | logs into DWSR's account |
| 01:32.58 | DWSR | Which ones? |
| 01:33.07 | Wobin | points |
| 01:33.08 | Wobin | That one |
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| 01:40.05 | Shirik | DWSR: The new one? |
| 01:40.43 | DWSR | Yeah, verily. |
| 01:41.19 | Kraps | "Next swing attacks are all going to die. The experience of using them is underwhelming, their mechanics are confusing, and they might even cause real world pain. :( " |
| 01:42.30 | DWSR | EwLLT? |
| 01:43.02 | DWSR | wow. |
| 01:43.06 | DWSR | Really? |
| 01:45.12 | Shirik | Kraps: What? |
| 01:45.38 | Cide | blue quote |
| 01:45.51 | Cide | they're removing next swing abilities in cataclysm |
| 01:45.52 | Kraps | http://www.mmo-champion.com/ |
| 01:46.16 | DWSR | :( |
| 01:46.20 | DWSR | Rune Strike's so good though |
| 01:47.04 | OhGrimes | I think they've said that for a while. |
| 01:47.06 | Shirik | let's just remove melee classes altogether |
| 01:47.09 | OhGrimes | Ghostcrawler said that a while back. |
| 01:47.23 | Kraps | hey Shirik |
| 01:47.32 | Shirik | hey Kraps |
| 01:47.58 | Shirik | Kraps, I think I'm going to have a FP soon :3 |
| 01:48.09 | Kraps | woot! |
| 01:48.32 | Shirik | I spent the last day and a half trying to figure out wtf this picture is of |
| 01:48.37 | Shirik | finally figured it out, so time to upload |
| 01:48.59 | Shirik | someone already told me it's a clear FPcontender |
| 01:49.26 | Kraps | i herd teh sky is falling http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/24038739175-eyonix-leaving-a-sign-of-the-times.html |
| 01:49.39 | DWSR | yeah. |
| 01:50.02 | DWSR | The damage buff the generals in Alterac Valley receive from the tower guards has been increased. <--- does anyone know by how much? |
| 01:50.13 | DWSR | Because I tanked them post patch but pre buff without too much problem. |
| 01:50.54 | DWSR | s/buff/hotfix/ |
| 01:51.19 | DWSR | http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/underdev/equipmentpotency.xml <-- How hai, Blizzard gearscore. |
| 01:51.24 | DWSR | s/How/Oh/ |
| 01:51.58 | Kraps | DWSR: old |
| 01:52.21 | Gnarfoz | way to repost an april fool's joke ;D |
| 01:52.39 | DWSR | yeah, I know. |
| 01:52.40 | DWSR | Still funny though |
| 01:52.47 | DWSR | tbh, wouldn't mind a larger ignore list. |
| 01:53.44 | DWSR | wtb ability to queue up for all BGs but EotS |
| 01:53.51 | DWSR | EotS: Every one totally sucks. |
| 01:56.28 | Aqua | anyone know of an addon to do something with all your minimap buttons? |
| 01:56.33 | DWSR | Minimap Button Frame. |
| 01:56.41 | DWSR | Also try, MinimapButtonBag. |
| 01:57.04 | Aqua | fair enough |
| 01:57.23 | DWSR | You can usually turn off MMB's though. |
| 01:57.33 | DWSR | Which is what I've done for most of mine. |
| 01:58.53 | Arrowmaster | stop using so many addons that add minimap buttons, they are mostly useless |
| 01:59.01 | DWSR | I have lots that add buttons. |
| 01:59.07 | DWSR | They all can turn them off. |
| 01:59.09 | Aqua | all of them add buttons |
| 01:59.10 | Aqua | its annoying |
| 01:59.19 | Aqua | and turning them off is a pita |
| 01:59.22 | DWSR | No it's not. |
| 01:59.25 | DWSR | l2configure. |
| 01:59.39 | Aqua | bah, i don't wanna |
| 01:59.56 | DWSR | meh. |
| 02:00.07 | DWSR | If you don't spend at least 6 hours doing your UI, you're nto doing it right. |
| 02:00.37 | DWSR | No, seriously. |
| 02:01.01 | Aqua | i'd play with cntrl + z if i could |
| 02:01.09 | Aqua | and be mostly usable |
| 02:01.15 | Kraps | so, do i get noblegarden on my warrior or shammy? |
| 02:01.37 | Kraps | what to people with multiple 80s do? |
| 02:01.56 | Arrowmaster | goes to watch the new doctor who |
| 02:02.58 | DWSR | Aqua: No matter how much you have on your screen, it'll take you at least 6 hours to do a thorough job. |
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| 02:23.34 | Dagmar | I've probably piffled away three times that just screwing around with PitBill4 |
| 02:24.14 | Dagmar | Aqua: Sexymap lets you forcibly hide most/all of them when you're not mousing over |
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| 02:28.07 | DWSR | Dagmar: I've found SUF to be a bit better than PB4. |
| 02:28.13 | DWSR | Just because of anchoring. |
| 02:28.28 | DWSR | No need to fuck around with Align or something in order to get everything to line up properly. |
| 02:29.28 | DWSR | Also, being able to configure several frame groups at once is really nie. |
| 02:29.29 | DWSR | nice* |
| 02:30.39 | Arrowmaster | ok this new doctor who is fucking awesome |
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| 03:05.29 | Kraps | http://www.mozilla.org/security/announce/2010/mfsa2010-25.html |
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| 03:43.33 | Shirik | " India became one of 135 countries to make education a fundamental right of every child when the act came into force on 1 April 2010." |
| 03:43.38 | Shirik | why would you do that, seriously? |
| 03:44.05 | DWSR | Shut up, Shirik. Just copyedit the damn article. |
| 03:44.35 | Shirik | I mean why would you make it go into effect on april fool's |
| 03:44.38 | Shirik | like |
| 03:44.40 | Shirik | wtf |
| 03:44.46 | DWSR | lol |
| 03:45.00 | DWSR | Because they sekritly think children's education is a joke? |
| 03:45.02 | DWSR | I has no clue. |
| 03:45.04 | DWSR | But like I said. |
| 03:45.06 | DWSR | Shut up, Shirik. Just copyedit the damn article. |
| 03:45.17 | Shirik | Shirik is involved in the April 2010 GAN backlog elimination drive and as such will not be taking any requests for copy edit or review until May. You can help! |
| 03:45.28 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Shirik |
| 03:45.59 | DWSR | GAN? |
| 03:46.10 | DWSR | Garbage Article Neutralization? |
| 03:46.13 | Shirik | good article nomination |
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| 03:46.38 | Zyn | is loaded with Garbage Article Nominations |
| 03:59.35 | Wobin | what's a good guildbank organiser? |
| 04:04.47 | OhGrimes | My mod has the ability to switch pages, and when it does |
| 04:04.47 | OhGrimes | it shrinks |
| 04:04.56 | OhGrimes | the problem is it shrinks in a fashion that's uncomfortable |
| 04:05.33 | OhGrimes | [ ] Here is the window! |
| 04:05.47 | OhGrimes | [ ] here is how I want it to shrink! |
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| 04:06.03 | OhGrimes | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:06.06 | OhGrimes | Okay that didn't work |
| 04:06.09 | OhGrimes | Well. |
| 04:06.38 | OhGrimes | My point is that there's a button at the top of my mod which controls which page you view. Depending on the page, the height gets smaller. But it shrinks from both the top and the bottom rather than the bottom |
| 04:06.46 | OhGrimes | So if you're switching between them fast, it's really annoying. |
| 04:07.59 | OhGrimes | It's not that the actual frame itself resizes from the bottom, it's that when it's shrunk, it re-centers so the button moves down. |
| 04:08.55 | OhGrimes | I doubt there's actually a way to fix it in this case. Ah well. |
| 04:11.50 | Wobin | grah |
| 04:11.57 | Wobin | time() returns -system- time? |
| 04:12.00 | Wobin | server time? |
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| 04:12.52 | Arrowmaster | system |
| 04:13.00 | Wobin | any access to server time? |
| 04:13.29 | Arrowmaster | GetTime() |
| 04:13.39 | Arrowmaster | wait |
| 04:13.44 | Arrowmaster | thats something else |
| 04:14.07 | Arrowmaster | well there is but i think its changed because of the calander api |
| 04:14.14 | Arrowmaster | so look in there |
| 04:14.56 | Wobin | k |
| 04:14.57 | Wobin | ta |
| 04:16.50 | Dagmar | OhGrimes: There's a way to fix it, I'm sure, but giving up quickly has been working out for you so well thus far so I wouldn't want to discourage you from continuing to do ti. |
| 04:18.31 | Arrowmaster | guessing that frame:SetHeight() is being called to change and the anchor isnt on the top |
| 04:18.43 | OhGrimes | Dagmar: It has been working out my mod is going splendid! |
| 04:18.52 | Wobin | ~interfacexml |
| 04:19.08 | Wobin | damnit, what's the trigger =P |
| 04:19.20 | Wobin | ~framexml |
| 04:19.21 | purl | Official: (Mac) http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/AddOnKit.dmg, (Win) http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/AddOnKit.zip. Compare: http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser |
| 04:19.23 | Dagmar | OhGrimes: _Everything_ has an anchor point... One place that it literally hinges off of, and everything plays out relative to that point. |
| 04:19.40 | OhGrimes | Dagmar: Is it in SetPoint? |
| 04:20.03 | Iriel | The only thing without an anchor point is the 'screen' (nil, to setpoint) |
| 04:20.21 | Dagmar | Iriel: It's anchored to screen 0,0 |
| 04:20.23 | Dagmar | ;) |
| 04:20.35 | Dagmar | er s/screen/display/; |
| 04:21.15 | OhGrimes | mainFrame:SetPoint("TOP",UIParent, 0,0 ) would just make it start at the top of the screen. |
| 04:22.19 | OhGrimes | When resized, it'll still shrink from both the top and the bottom. |
| 04:22.19 | Iriel | No, that'd make it start at the top of UIParent |
| 04:22.20 | OhGrimes | So. |
| 04:22.27 | Iriel | which is USUALLY the same as the screen |
| 04:22.29 | Iriel | but not always |
| 04:23.38 | OhGrimes | Well if it's parent is UIParent, I can't really anchor it, can I? |
| 04:24.02 | Iriel | parent and anchors dont have to be the same |
| 04:24.10 | Iriel | parent drives scale and visibility |
| 04:24.13 | Wobin | Arrowmaster, guh. GetGameTime() >< |
| 04:24.14 | Iriel | anchors drive location (and size) |
| 04:24.17 | OhGrimes | So you don't set the anchor point with SetPoint? :-/? |
| 04:24.36 | OhGrimes | Hm. Okay I mean in SetPoint |
| 04:24.40 | OhGrimes | UIParent is the region |
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| 04:24.49 | Shirik | Some people have way too much time on their hands |
| 04:25.26 | Dagmar | OhGrimes: Have you read http://www.wowwiki.com/API_SetPoint |
| 04:25.49 | Arrowmaster | you do but UIParent is special, stuff anchors to the closest corner of it instead of where you say |
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| 04:27.44 | Dagmar | I'm pretty sure there's no way to resize frames in WoW the way you can windows in um, Windows, without a *lot* of extra song and dance |
| 04:28.26 | Iriel | Remove anchors, set height and width |
| 04:28.41 | Wobin | oh my god =( |
| 04:29.11 | Wobin | as 'GetGameTime()' doesn't return seconds... the timer 'addon' actually uses an OnUpdate to try and synch the countdown |
| 04:29.15 | Wobin | or alarm |
| 04:29.27 | Wobin | why didn't they just get GetGameTime to return seconds? |
| 04:29.33 | OhGrimes | I thought about just finding the offset each-time it resizes |
| 04:29.38 | Dagmar | Wobin: To drive people batty |
| 04:29.39 | OhGrimes | Then making up that difference |
| 04:29.53 | Dagmar | Iriel: Wait, seriously? You can *remove* the anchors? |
| 04:29.58 | OhGrimes | But it's really not that complete of a solution, especially if you're at the edge of the screen. |
| 04:30.05 | OhGrimes | Since edges seem to alter how windows resize. |
| 04:30.29 | Wobin | pintoscreen? |
| 04:31.30 | Iriel | ClearAllPoints |
| 04:32.23 | Dagmar | Hmm... Never seen that one before. I'll have to dork with it |
| 04:33.20 | Arrowmaster | Wobin: you mean in the Blizzard_TimeManager? |
| 04:33.30 | Wobin | Arrowmaster, yeh |
| 04:33.42 | OhGrimes | I guess I'll try just figuring out the difference resizing makes and add or subtract it |
| 04:33.46 | OhGrimes | In the location. |
| 04:34.04 | OhGrimes | W... Nevermind, that wouldn't work. Damn. |
| 04:34.43 | Dagmar | Oh ... hohoho |
| 04:34.48 | Wobin | ugh |
| 04:34.54 | OhGrimes | O....B....E....Y |
| 04:34.55 | Dagmar | From http://www.wowwiki.com/API_Region_ClearAllPoints "Note that right after :ClearAllPoints() call your frame will disappear from screen, since WoW cannot display non-anchored objects." |
| 04:35.11 | Wobin | This idea for a guild bank auditor is not going to eventuate |
| 04:35.15 | Dagmar | doh. I was *wondering* just exactly WTF happens to a window when you strip it's anchor points. Heh |
| 04:35.19 | Wobin | due to time zone management being a pain in the arse =P |
| 04:35.31 | Dagmar | How could it display that, I was thinking |
| 04:35.38 | Dagmar | Wobin: What's hard about time zone management |
| 04:36.13 | Dagmar | People should use AST (Azeroth Server Time) or go back to their cave in the woods |
| 04:36.28 | Wobin | because there's no precise way to -get- AST |
| 04:36.31 | Wobin | from the API |
| 04:36.47 | Wobin | the closest you can get is hours and minutes |
| 04:36.51 | Wobin | which doesn't tell you the date |
| 04:37.01 | Arrowmaster | you can get the date |
| 04:37.11 | Wobin | and then all the times returned from the bank log, are "X Min/hours/days 'ago'" |
| 04:37.19 | Arrowmaster | from part of the calandar api |
| 04:38.00 | Dagmar | I do agree it would be nice if they'd just toss in something rational like an offset epoch time |
| 04:38.06 | Dagmar | ...and some functions to convert to/from it. |
| 04:38.17 | Wobin | Arrowmaster, hm true |
| 04:38.19 | Wobin | ok |
| 04:38.29 | Wobin | with that, I can get the current server time |
| 04:38.33 | Wobin | datetime |
| 04:39.27 | Wobin | and then from that extrapolate the timestamp for bank adjustments |
| 04:41.03 | Wobin | except when DST comes into play >< |
| 04:42.58 | Wobin | maybe I should write a library for time management >< |
| 04:43.25 | Wobin | (why don't we have one?) |
| 04:43.41 | Dagmar | Honestly, I'd just post to the UI and Suggestions forum and beg them to put people out of their misery and make a freaking EpochTime() call or three |
| 04:44.03 | Dagmar | Cataclysm could be a brand-new era in non-insane time managment |
| 04:44.23 | Arrowmaster | you mean a GetServerEpochTime()? |
| 04:44.34 | Arrowmaster | since you can already get the local epoch time easily |
| 04:46.00 | Wobin | I shall call it... LibEpochFail |
| 04:49.36 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: GetEpicTime() ;) |
| 04:50.26 | A-KO | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s03Kco-XQCY < the best thing about mario brothers wii :P |
| 04:51.10 | Wobin | A-KO, that's AWESOME |
| 04:51.56 | A-KO | it is certainly pro |
| 04:52.03 | A-KO | when I saw that for the first time when I played I laughed |
| 04:52.05 | A-KO | and was like "omfg" |
| 04:52.46 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSS9gUXLeRE&NR=1 |
| 04:52.46 | Arrowmaster | doesnt that also making the timing kinda random? |
| 04:53.12 | A-KO | not really |
| 04:53.19 | A-KO | because if you get the beat of the song it's easy to follow |
| 04:53.25 | A-KO | isn't that awesome Wobin? lol |
| 04:53.43 | Arrowmaster | ok so its always the same |
| 04:53.51 | A-KO | yeah, more or less. |
| 04:53.59 | A-KO | it's the beat of the music |
| 04:54.34 | Kraps | poor healer |
| 04:55.09 | Kraps | rogue dies "rez me" the healer is finishing his rez cast |
| 04:55.29 | Kraps | "heal me" hot just started rolling |
| 04:55.34 | Kraps | hots* |
| 04:55.39 | Kraps | i mean wtf |
| 04:56.30 | Wobin | that's when, the next time the rogue pulls aggro |
| 04:56.35 | Wobin | the healer says "die plz" |
| 04:56.51 | Kraps | oh he kept pulling aggro |
| 04:57.01 | Wobin | then every time he goes down 'thx' |
| 04:57.13 | Kraps | lol |
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| 05:15.07 | Dagmar | dasunt: No, it's real. That story was on CNN. |
| 05:20.19 | cogwheel | Fisker: sry i brok u erlier |
| 05:21.37 | Wobin | Dump: value=time(date("!*t")) - time(date("*t")) |
| 05:21.37 | Wobin | [15:19:38] [1]=-36000 |
| 05:21.50 | Wobin | Dump: value=time(date("!*t")) - time(date("*t"))/60 |
| 05:21.50 | Wobin | [15:19:59] [1]=1249149759.0167 |
| 05:21.59 | Wobin | aweeesome =P |
| 05:22.58 | Arrowmaster | yeah you forgot the order of operation |
| 05:23.15 | Wobin | hm so I did |
| 05:23.18 | Wobin | stupid brackets |
| 05:24.38 | OhGrimes | BEDMAS! |
| 05:25.04 | Shirik | Iriel: ping |
| 05:26.12 | Iriel | ? |
| 05:26.38 | Shirik | hey have you checked out lightroom 3 at all? |
| 05:27.12 | Iriel | I DL'ed the beta last night, haven't installed it yet |
| 05:27.33 | Iriel | you? |
| 05:27.57 | Shirik | I'm happy with it, it seems much more responsive; that was my biggest problem with LR2 |
| 05:28.30 | Shirik | I haven't tried the tethered shooting yet (and I probably won't, since most of my shots are nature) |
| 05:32.40 | Wobin | hm, there's no easy way to determine if the server is under DST, is there? |
| 05:44.12 | Shirik | check the date? |
| 05:50.57 | Wobin | game server |
| 06:11.13 | Kraps | Red vs Blue FTW |
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| 06:35.06 | Adys | SIGH youtube |
| 06:35.16 | Adys | their html5 player is horribly broken |
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| 07:06.23 | OhGrimes | Hm. If I do a setpoint, do I have to fill in all the arguments? |
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| 07:32.17 | Torhal | It's best to. In theory, you can skip the X and Y coords, but I've had issues when I did that which 0, 0 fixed |
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| 08:26.29 | Wobin | Do I go out for dinner |
| 08:26.39 | Wobin | or figure out some leftovers |
| 08:27.17 | nevcairiel | go out and eat a rabbit |
| 08:27.57 | Wobin | it might reflux in a few days =( |
| 08:29.53 | OhGrimes | Hm I want to change the position of a window by about 30 pixels horizontally |
| 08:30.01 | OhGrimes | when a button is pushed |
| 08:30.11 | OhGrimes | but i cannot find a way to get SetPoint to do this |
| 08:46.50 | mikma | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/community/comics/gallery.html#324 |
| 08:48.15 | Wobin | mikma, yeah =( |
| 08:48.21 | Wobin | I tried reserving that name ages ago |
| 08:48.26 | Wobin | but someone already took it |
| 08:49.02 | mikma | http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/community/comics/gallery.html#314 |
| 08:52.08 | Adys | !api quest_detail |
| 08:52.08 | lua_bot | QUEST_DETAIL: Fires when details of an available quest are presented by a questgiver (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/events/QUEST_DETAIL) |
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| 10:02.38 | zenzelezz | "Raging Horgnomes" o_O |
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| 11:04.20 | Arrowmaster | muahahah |
| 11:04.36 | Arrowmaster | MW2 TDM and im raping with just my pistol |
| 11:08.36 | OhGrimes | Anyone know the AVI requirements for MovieFrame()? |
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| 11:34.20 | Arrowmaster | that was fucking epic, came up some stairs can killed one guy in the hallway with my pistol, took cover on a corner and killed the guy directly to my left from where killed the first guy, then turned back down that hallway to kill the 3rd guy |
| 11:34.36 | Arrowmaster | and non of them fucking moved while this happened in about 2 seconds |
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| 12:40.38 | digmouse | I switched to a knifer last night and got 80 kills in 6 matches |
| 12:56.23 | cbreak | I switched to be a politician, now I can just send people to their death. |
| 13:24.55 | tlund | [10:54] #wowuidev-commits <Repo> libbabble-zone-3-0: Nevcairiel * r259 LibBabble-Zone-3.0.lua: |
| 13:24.58 | tlund | [10:54] #wowuidev-commits <Repo> Automated LibBabble re-generation from the localization system |
| 13:25.03 | tlund | where can i read more about this localization system? |
| 13:25.40 | tlund | i see the "Integrated web-based project localization" text on wowace, but i must be stupid because i can't find it :( |
| 13:27.52 | foxlit | I wonder if that library is a giant list of zone name translations |
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| 13:36.04 | haste | foxlit: it's babble, babble is always a gigantic list of translations |
| 13:38.34 | industrial | I would never never never never never ever want any digital interface owned/used by me in any other language the english. |
| 13:38.39 | industrial | Dutch wow would be sooooooo corny. |
| 13:38.56 | haste | welcome to a world where not everyone speaks english |
| 13:39.03 | industrial | hi, l2eng |
| 13:39.08 | industrial | this is the internets |
| 13:40.10 | haste | not that easy for everyone :P |
| 13:41.13 | industrial | cookies for reference; http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/snowmen3.jpg |
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| 14:01.51 | Fisker | blows up haste |
| 14:01.55 | Fisker | i still hate opera |
| 14:02.11 | Fisker | and if you don't hate opera then you hate me |
| 14:02.15 | Fisker | and that's racism |
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| 14:03.50 | Shirik | rofl, this can't be good |
| 14:03.53 | Shirik | !!! The following installed packages are masked: |
| 14:04.04 | Shirik | how the hell did they get installed then? |
| 14:05.14 | Fisker | install windows |
| 14:07.45 | foxlit | Heroic LK is hilarious when you haven't killed heroic wing bosses |
| 14:07.54 | foxlit | In that he doesn't actually spawn. |
| 14:08.14 | Fisker | duh? |
| 14:08.27 | foxlit | "Sorry guys, the lich king is in another throne room" |
| 14:09.01 | Fisker | "haha" |
| 14:23.41 | foxlit | Makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. |
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| 14:25.01 | foxlit | It'd be better if he just wiped your raid when you pull or whatever. Not having him there is weird. |
| 14:25.09 | Stanzilla | you can try him once on heroic |
| 14:25.21 | Stanzilla | we killed everything but professor on heroic once and he was there |
| 14:25.38 | Stanzilla | did one try, he then only respawned when we switched back to normal mode |
| 14:25.55 | foxlit | We killed everything but sindragosa on heroic, and he wasn't there. |
| 14:26.13 | Stanzilla | maybe they fixed it |
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| 14:43.57 | Fisker | foxlit |
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| 14:52.46 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfBhi6qqFLA |
| 14:55.08 | Fisker | hello Wobin |
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| 15:55.20 | foxlit | Wobin: lack of navigation sucks :( |
| 15:56.53 | Adys | Here |
| 15:56.59 | Adys | I'm making everyone a favour here |
| 15:57.00 | Adys | http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/43538 |
| 15:57.01 | Wobin | foxlit, ? |
| 15:57.10 | foxlit | (Part 1 of 9) |
| 15:57.18 | Wobin | foxlit, hit the down arrow on the 69 Videos link |
| 15:57.25 | Wobin | and scroll to the side to get the next one |
| 15:57.35 | foxlit | users uploads, meh. |
| 15:57.49 | foxlit | wru, playlist? :) |
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| 16:06.40 | DWSR | Wobin |
| 16:06.43 | DWSR | Fantastic! |
| 16:17.34 | DWSR | Wobin: Part 8 is the best. |
| 16:18.58 | Wobin | DWSR, agreed =) |
| 16:19.10 | Wobin | As much as I like the style of the reviews |
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| 16:19.25 | DWSR | The SNES throwback was fantastic. |
| 16:19.26 | Wobin | I really like the fact that they -actually- review the movies =P |
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| 16:20.19 | Wobin | It's like... Zero Punctuation for movies =P |
| 16:20.26 | Wobin | except with more slurring |
| 16:20.31 | Wobin | and bitch slapping |
| 16:21.56 | Adys | Wobin: nostalgia critic > |
| 16:22.29 | Wobin | Adys, kinda... but again, with more bitch slapping =P |
| 16:24.03 | Wobin | actually yeah, Nostalgia critic does do that nitpicking, doesn't he? |
| 16:24.05 | Kraps | what is? |
| 16:24.26 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfBhi6qqFLA&feature=channel |
| 16:25.04 | Kraps | meh |
| 16:25.11 | Kraps | i like moviebob |
| 16:26.26 | Kraps | the problem with ZP is that finding something good about a game in his reviews is like finding a needle in a haystack |
| 16:26.29 | DWSR | Akshually. |
| 16:26.31 | DWSR | I lied. |
| 16:26.41 | DWSR | Part 9 is way better. |
| 16:26.43 | Kraps | a very convoluted haystack |
| 16:26.52 | DWSR | Kraps: That's what's funny. |
| 16:27.23 | Kraps | not always DWSR |
| 16:28.04 | DWSR | Kraps: Meh. |
| 16:28.14 | DWSR | The last couple have been sorta meh. |
| 16:28.25 | Adys | Wobin: NC only reviews shit movies |
| 16:28.28 | Adys | or almost only |
| 16:28.32 | Adys | but he's a lot better :P |
| 16:28.56 | Adys | Kraps: Portal's ZP was quite good. |
| 16:29.01 | DWSR | ^ |
| 16:29.17 | DWSR | Wobin: Has he done an Ep3 review? |
| 16:30.17 | Wobin | DWSR, not afaik |
| 16:30.21 | Wobin | this one was just released |
| 16:30.33 | Kraps | its almost like trolling; bashing something you dont like is easy and gets cheap laughs but it gets old |
| 16:30.38 | Adys | https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/bfbameneiokkgbdmiekhjnmfkcnldhhm |
| 16:30.45 | DWSR | too bad. |
| 16:34.57 | Arathros | ' |
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| 16:36.37 | kneeki | Morning everyone |
| 16:37.32 | zenzelezz | hai |
| 16:38.17 | Adys | http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?profile=css3&warning=2&uri=http://db.mmo-champion.com/q/740/unused/ |
| 16:38.23 | Adys | What the fuck kind of validator is that |
| 16:41.00 | haste | it's true tho' :P |
| 16:44.14 | Adys | haste: what is? |
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| 16:46.03 | Kalroth | Adys: its bitching about your -properties |
| 16:46.10 | Adys | yes, and it should not |
| 16:46.22 | Adys | the spec allows proprietary css extensions when prefixed with - |
| 16:48.00 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.fincher.org/Misc/Pennies/Misc/2008-01-03-TravisWimer1.jpg |
| 16:48.05 | DWSR | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLzKwTcGO_0 <--- around 7:10 |
| 16:48.57 | ScytheBlade1 | also http://www.fincher.org/Misc/Pennies/Misc/2007-10-01-ChampAlex.JPG |
| 16:49.42 | DWSR | ScytheBlade1: First one is less impressive. |
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| 16:50.03 | ScytheBlade1 | I came across the first one.. first. |
| 16:50.31 | DWSR | Meh. |
| 16:50.55 | DWSR | tbh, probably wouldn't be all that difficult |
| 16:51.04 | ScytheBlade1 | You try it. |
| 16:51.06 | DWSR | Since the thumb tack is jammed into the table. |
| 16:51.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Send me a picture. |
| 16:51.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, I meant the second picture |
| 16:51.18 | DWSR | Oh, no. |
| 16:51.22 | DWSR | That one is quite impressive. |
| 17:01.02 | DWSR | Anyone in here tried unholy tanking? |
| 17:16.18 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9U4Ha9HQvMo&feature=player_embedded |
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| 17:19.55 | Wobin | DWSR, not since pre80 |
| 17:20.11 | DWSR | still, was it worth it/fun? |
| 17:20.37 | foxlit | I notice youtube captions for the onion are improving. |
| 17:20.46 | foxlit | I take it they're crowd-sourcing them? |
| 17:20.59 | Aelobin | is it possible to cancel a character transfer after the approval but before the paying bit? :P |
| 17:21.41 | foxlit | I thought approval happened after payment |
| 17:21.44 | DWSR | ^ |
| 17:22.08 | Aelobin | you put in card details, but i'm pretty sure you aren't charged until after the approval when you put them in again |
| 17:22.16 | Wobin | Aelobin, yes |
| 17:22.19 | Wobin | I think |
| 17:22.26 | Wobin | You can unlock the toon midmove |
| 17:22.42 | Aelobin | can't find a button for it anywhere :< |
| 17:23.18 | Wobin | on your account transfer page? |
| 17:23.37 | Wobin | if it hasn't already occurred, you should have a "step by step" meter of where it is |
| 17:23.44 | Wobin | and that should have some unlock capability |
| 17:23.48 | Wobin | iirc |
| 17:25.48 | Aelobin | kk :p |
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| 17:40.11 | Kraps | the great thing about this list is that the point of it went right over most peoples heads, if the comments are written by "most people" http://www.askmen.com/specials/2010_top_99/emmanuelle-chriqui-1.html |
| 17:42.34 | DWSR | Kraps: Why do you even read such drivvel? |
| 17:42.43 | zenzelezz | meh, what's with people's obsession with Megan Fox? |
| 17:42.49 | DWSR | ^ |
| 17:42.52 | DWSR | She's meh, tbh. |
| 17:42.57 | DWSR | I'd hit it, but *shrug* |
| 17:43.00 | DWSR | I'd hit a lot of things. |
| 17:43.05 | Kraps | DWSR: pictures of hot women |
| 17:43.10 | Kraps | why else? |
| 17:43.18 | DWSR | Kraps: www.redtube.com <--- videos. |
| 17:43.24 | DWSR | NSFW DON'T CLICK THAT LINK |
| 17:43.24 | DWSR | btw. |
| 17:43.47 | Kraps | pictures of hot women = notporn |
| 17:43.56 | Kraps | kthks |
| 17:44.18 | zenzelezz | porn tends to feature hot women too, unless you're into weird stuff |
| 17:45.09 | Kraps | i'm looking for one, not the other |
| 17:46.23 | Dagmar | zenzeless: *snicker* like gay porn? |
| 17:46.31 | Kraps | megan fox wouldnt be anything more than a fuckbuddy |
| 17:46.50 | Fisker | lol |
| 17:46.54 | Fisker | 300k wipe on blood queen hc |
| 17:46.58 | Dagmar | KRaps: Not true. She could _probably_ slap together a sandwich |
| 17:47.13 | Kraps | ^ i loled |
| 17:48.22 | industrial | oh right, raid time! |
| 17:54.53 | DWSR | woot. |
| 17:54.57 | DWSR | Just got Ironman in a pug. |
| 18:01.11 | Shirik | http://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/dating-advice/reasons-to-date-geeks |
| 18:02.26 | Adys | i havent seen starwars nor lotr |
| 18:02.45 | Shirik | well guess you're screwed |
| 18:03.14 | A-KO | Shirik: Unfortunately, they forgot one thing on that list: Money. |
| 18:03.25 | Shirik | yeah I was expecting to see that there tbh |
| 18:03.30 | DWSR | They did mention it. |
| 18:03.37 | A-KO | the geeks that don't have money aren't real geeks :P |
| 18:03.42 | DWSR | Since heâs supersmart and probably already making a ton of money |
| 18:03.50 | A-KO | ahhh |
| 18:04.03 | Shirik | oh I focused on the second half of that |
| 18:04.45 | A-KO | I figure I"ll wait until I'm 30 something to find a decent woman, when they get over the "bad boy" phase |
| 18:04.49 | A-KO | might end up having to deal with kids though :/ |
| 18:04.51 | DWSR | ^ |
| 18:05.25 | Shirik | I figure I don't really care enough to go out of my way to deal with this kind of stuff |
| 18:05.28 | A-KO | when they get to the point where they realize they're not 17 anymore, all the 'bad boys' they thought were super awesome are in reality either jerks or going to live in a trailer drinking beer for the rest of their lives... |
| 18:05.33 | Shirik | if it happens, it happens, if it doesn't, it doesn't. |
| 18:07.00 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: any ETA on QA making use of the new auction house functions? IIRC you were quite excited about them when they were announced |
| 18:07.11 | Trela | Girls just hold me down. >:O |
| 18:07.15 | Shadowed | When I have time |
| 18:07.22 | Shadowed | I'm not really playing the AH right now, so it's not a priority |
| 18:07.26 | A-KO | then you haven't found the right girl :P |
| 18:07.45 | Shadowed | the AH functions don't work too well when you post a single item which makes it a pain to move it over |
| 18:11.44 | sylvanaar | TortoiseHg is getting like TSVN, everytime i look there is a new release |
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| 18:14.56 | Shirik | Anyone here good with lightroom? (Iriel, ping?) I'm trying to do like a batch operation, set the same keyword on a lot of images |
| 18:15.00 | Shirik | is there a way to do that? |
| 18:16.39 | Shirik | nm I figured it out |
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| 18:21.45 | Fisker | hello Shirik |
| 18:22.22 | Shirik | hello Fisker |
| 18:22.38 | Fisker | hello Fisker |
| 18:23.20 | Shirik | hello Shirik |
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| 18:26.29 | Fisker | indeed Shirik |
| 18:26.54 | Gagorian | indeed Fisker |
| 18:27.03 | Shirik | indeed Gagorian |
| 18:28.21 | Fisker | :o |
| 18:29.57 | amro | ~gag Fisker |
| 18:29.57 | purl | ACTION takes away the voice of Fisker and, as an additional precaution, sews Fisker's mouth shut permanently... |
| 18:30.07 | amro | too bad he can still type |
| 18:30.54 | Adys | Hello... amro. |
| 18:32.03 | DWSR | Shadowed |
| 18:32.17 | Shadowed | what |
| 18:32.24 | DWSR | Shadowed: Have you seen the bug in SUF regarding runes showing the incorrect status/cooldown? |
| 18:32.39 | Shadowed | I don't play a DK, I believe that's a Blizzard bug that occurs sometimes |
| 18:32.46 | Shadowed | I vaguely remember dealing with it a while ago |
| 18:34.39 | Dagmar | If you have a problem with girls holding you down, it's possible you might be gay. |
| 18:34.49 | DWSR | With a very high probability. |
| 18:34.59 | DWSR | probabability. |
| 18:35.20 | Iriel | Shirik: You figured it out so i guess I dont have to say 'yes' |
| 18:35.32 | Shirik | >.> |
| 18:35.34 | Dagmar | Not that there's anything wrong with being gay--just that being uncertain about it tends to cause issues |
| 18:36.15 | Fisker | another 300k wipe :( |
| 18:36.20 | Fisker | this time on rotface |
| 18:36.27 | Fisker | we're really unlucky :o |
| 18:37.16 | Gagorian | Or your raid has a Fisker in it |
| 18:37.18 | Gagorian | not sure which |
| 18:37.41 | Fisker | if it wasn't for my selfless sacrifice we would probably have wiped |
| 18:37.46 | Fisker | we had 3 oozes |
| 18:37.50 | Fisker | big oozes that is |
| 18:38.01 | DWSR | rfol |
| 18:38.04 | Fisker | and the offtank and me collected them |
| 18:38.09 | Fisker | and made them all merge |
| 18:38.25 | Fisker | but i died because i got too close :( |
| 18:38.50 | DWSR | Fisker, selfless sacrifice? |
| 18:38.53 | DWSR | yarite. |
| 18:39.05 | Iriel | Stupid Noblegarden Eggs |
| 18:39.06 | Fisker | well rather i wouldn't want to be sacrificed at all |
| 18:39.09 | Iriel | mutters |
| 18:39.16 | Fisker | though you could say that if i hadn't died i could've done that 300k damage |
| 18:39.17 | Fisker | :D |
| 18:39.33 | Fisker | though i don't think we could that far into the fight |
| 18:42.43 | Shirik | you know what's the worst part about Lightroom 3? |
| 18:42.49 | Shirik | Recatagorizing all your images :( |
| 18:43.02 | Shirik | Thank god I haven't taken many since September or I'd spend the entire beta just recategorizing them |
| 18:43.02 | Gintaro | outsource it |
| 18:44.18 | Iriel | Shirik: did they funadmentally alter the library? |
| 18:46.21 | Gintaro | Couldn't they have included some porting tool? |
| 18:46.57 | Shirik | Iriel: They just decided not to include the upgrade functionality in the beta |
| 18:47.29 | Shirik | I only have 1649 pictures left though |
| 18:47.40 | Shirik | Fortunately it seems to have remembered all my keywords |
| 18:47.44 | Shirik | so it's not too too bad |
| 18:48.00 | Shirik | but I only keyworded my pick images, not my non-picks |
| 18:48.06 | Shirik | so now I'm keywording everything, even my rejects |
| 18:52.02 | zenzelezz | http://images.askmen.com/specials/2010_top_99/heidi-klum.jpg - so is this supposed to be some freak cosplay cross between a druid and a princess or something? o_O |
| 18:52.20 | industrial | I dont care. |
| 18:52.49 | DWSR | zenzelezz: Druish princess. |
| 18:52.50 | Shirik | druid princess ftw |
| 18:52.54 | DWSR | 2 points if you get the reference |
| 18:52.59 | Fisker | lol |
| 18:53.03 | industrial | zenzelezz: it'd go off either way |
| 18:53.03 | Fisker | we took him this time |
| 18:53.06 | Fisker | 10 minutes |
| 18:53.14 | Fisker | with 10 people left around 15% |
| 18:53.38 | zenzelezz | reminds me of several first boss kills in my former guild |
| 18:54.00 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: if it makes it a pain, would QA even profit then? |
| 18:54.08 | Shadowed | it would |
| 18:54.14 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: are you in some kind of pug raid with your alt or what? ^^ |
| 18:54.23 | Shadowed | But the system has to be done by both the Blizzard API and QAs old, which is what makes it annoying |
| 18:54.38 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: hm. well, I post stacks of 3 for each glyph for example... I guess it would already profit in that case |
| 18:54.59 | Shadowed | I don't remember the exacts, but if you only post one stack of 3, it won't work |
| 18:55.06 | Shadowed | or maybe it didn't fire all the events |
| 18:55.10 | Gnarfoz | no, 345 stacks of 3 :D |
| 18:55.19 | Shadowed | as in |
| 18:55.22 | Gnarfoz | (as that's how many glyphs there are atm) |
| 18:55.31 | Shadowed | You post 1x3 stack of Glyph of Lava Lash |
| 18:55.39 | Shadowed | Talking per item, not globally |
| 18:55.47 | Shadowed | I'd have to double check, but it's something along those lines. Enough to make it a pain to do |
| 18:55.53 | Arathros | hmm can you stack glyphs? |
| 18:55.55 | Gnarfoz | no, 345*3 auctions, hmm |
| 18:55.57 | DWSR | Arathros: Yes. |
| 18:55.58 | Gnarfoz | Arathros: to 20 |
| 18:56.01 | Shadowed | No you're missing the point Gnarfoz :p |
| 18:56.07 | Arathros | oh like normal stack |
| 18:56.08 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: I guess so :D |
| 18:56.13 | Arathros | though like you can put 3 of em in glyphs ;P |
| 18:56.18 | Fisker | Gnarfoz it's heroic |
| 18:56.23 | Gnarfoz | I'm kind of filled with easter sunday food and drinks ~_~ |
| 18:56.28 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: ah |
| 18:56.43 | Shadowed | The issue isn't how many auctions you post total, the issue is how many you do of a single item. If you only post *one* stack of *three* glyphs, you have to use the old style. Or it might have been if you're posting one stack of one, but something along those lines |
| 18:56.49 | Fisker | the haste and spellpower trinket dropped |
| 18:56.58 | DWSR | Fisker: DFO? |
| 18:57.03 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: the mind, it boggle s:D |
| 18:57.07 | DWSR | Dislodged Foreign Object? |
| 18:57.30 | Fisker | yeah |
| 18:57.58 | Fisker | blood queen is pretty easy with the buffs though |
| 18:58.03 | Fisker | so free 277 tokens every week |
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| 18:59.30 | Gnarfoz | blood queen felt like nonheroic, lol |
| 18:59.55 | Gnarfoz | valithria was fucking annoying, but we only killed her the first time this reset (on heroic) |
| 19:00.24 | Shirik | wtf is this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:White_Shadows#Tide_rolls |
| 19:00.26 | Shirik | eh wrong channel |
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| 19:00.51 | Fisker | yeah Gnarfoz it's just a dps check |
| 19:01.03 | Fisker | and because of the buff you can easily put a healer on dps duty |
| 19:01.31 | ScytheBlade1 | I just purchased 320 pills. |
| 19:02.13 | ScytheBlade1 | One bottle for work, one for home.. that should hold me off for a while. |
| 19:02.17 | zenzelezz | interesting... the department responsible for our (Norway's) roads runs a 30 year old computer system for vehicle registration and stuff. It has to be taken down twice every week, leaving the police without a possibility to check whether a driver's licence is valid or not for several hours at night two times a week |
| 19:02.28 | zenzelezz | "we don't need to replace that, it runs!" |
| 19:02.35 | zenzelezz | makes me wonder what OS it runs on |
| 19:10.33 | Kraps | red vs blue has some epic mind screws |
| 19:11.30 | Kraps | the reconstruction series |
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| 19:17.00 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=12947281207&postId=129459873538&sid=1#1 <-lol @ armory profile :( |
| 19:17.55 | NiLon | talents are overrated |
| 19:20.43 | Zyn | "no i am killing 75 lvl mobs. and when i give quest i havent get expirience point too. :(( |
| 19:21.26 | Zyn | did he disable experience gain AND forget talents? ... why do I feel it's just him playing dumb or attempt to troll |
| 19:21.52 | Adys | it's a troll |
| 19:22.01 | Adys | Talent tree respecs 7 |
| 19:22.57 | Adys | it could also be an ebayer |
| 19:23.09 | Fisker | he even has dual spec :P |
| 19:23.19 | Fisker | not sure if it's troll though |
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| 19:23.31 | Adys | likely an ebayer then |
| 19:23.49 | foxlit | That seems like an awesome thing to do: sell someone a bunch of characters with disabled xp gain |
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| 19:23.54 | Adys | lol |
| 19:25.22 | Zyn | and leave them there to figure it out :P |
| 19:26.05 | Zyn | "dude this char I bought of you for 100 million Bison dollars doesnt gain any XP when I kill stuff :(" |
| 19:27.27 | Adys | "Sorry, you didn't order the Extended Warranty." |
| 19:27.48 | zenzelezz | "Hm, I see. Tell you what, pay me another 50m and I'll fix the problem" |
| 19:28.45 | zenzelezz | I wonder if the people who buy characters are usually smart enough to change the password afterwards |
| 19:36.11 | Adys | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDl5AMFlqeo (rick astley inside) really awesome |
| 19:36.26 | Adys | I'm almost in tears |
| 19:40.07 | Shirik | hey what was KDE "renamed" to again? |
| 19:40.12 | Shirik | I can't seem to find it on KDE's site |
| 19:40.47 | Fisker | your mom |
| 19:41.10 | Zyn | KidDiE |
| 19:41.20 | Zyn | as some pronounced it that way |
| 19:41.56 | zenzelezz | Shirik: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KDE_Software_Compilation_4 |
| 19:41.56 | Dagmar | "KoDawful" |
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| 19:44.20 | foxlit | If I wanted to fire a personal raid warning, I'd call... |
| 19:44.35 | zenzelezz | ghost busters! |
| 19:44.38 | Dagmar | Lichbusters! |
| 19:45.59 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/04/04/funny-pictures-reputation-preceded-him/ |
| 19:50.54 | zenzelezz | "[Armorsmith] LFW"... why did I read this as "Aerosmith LFW" o_O |
| 19:51.29 | DWSR | rofl |
| 19:52.28 | Fisker | because you suck |
| 19:56.02 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8qFBvnUGSM |
| 19:58.03 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/28/24038829557-sheep--mages-really-lol-gc-you-play-a-.html |
| 20:00.05 | zenzelezz | heh |
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| 20:23.22 | DWSR | Meh, I find that as a DK and as a warlock, mages are pretty well balanced. |
| 20:23.32 | DWSR | It's a matter of player skill when I come up against them, usually. |
| 20:23.40 | DWSR | If he outplays me, he'll beat me. |
| 20:24.06 | DWSR | (Assuming similar gear levels) |
| 20:38.14 | foxlit | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6-3AjJnB2g << lyrics to this appear in the textbook of one of the courses we have to take. |
| 20:38.19 | foxlit | I think they were trying to fill pages. :/ |
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| 20:58.21 | Kraps | "They're like evil Ebay" |
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| 21:03.51 | DWSR | rofl. |
| 21:03.56 | DWSR | Just tanked H Oc with FP off. |
| 21:18.30 | industrial | H Oc? FP? |
| 21:18.41 | alestane | Heroic Occulus, Frost Presence. |
| 21:21.03 | DWSR | I love HoS with good DPS. |
| 21:21.13 | DWSR | Tribunal Event = /afk for tanking |
| 21:32.14 | Dagmar | foxlit: Clearly the person who was holding the video camera has a fetish for accordion players |
| 21:32.52 | Dagmar | Seriously.... W.T.F. You're at a Bjork show with a camera, you're within 20 feet of the stage, and you shoot footage of THE ACCORDIAN PLAYER? |
| 21:36.15 | alestane | He's part of the show, right? |
| 21:39.42 | Dagmar | In theory. He's not very decorative. |
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| 21:40.24 | DWSR | Shadowed: Found a bug in EG that shows people as not having gear equipped in slots when they really do |
| 21:40.44 | Dagmar | "Pudgy Asian Man playing Accordion for Bjork Footage" <-- Yes, this will sell to editors |
| 21:41.11 | Fisker | i don't think you did DWSR |
| 21:42.57 | foxlit | ZvP is frustrating. |
| 21:43.14 | foxlit | Immortals eat roaches, sentries block zerglings. What does that leave me with? :( |
| 21:43.25 | Dagmar | Spock beats paper. |
| 21:43.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Way to miss mutalisks and roach movement while burrowed |
| 21:43.40 | DWSR | foxlit: You have to rush early. |
| 21:43.51 | DWSR | foxlit: If SC2 is anything like SC1. |
| 21:43.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Also hydralisks |
| 21:44.01 | DWSR | Protoss will rip your shit apart if you leave them alone for too long |
| 21:44.03 | foxlit | blocked choke |
| 21:44.08 | ScytheBlade1 | s/Protoss/Anyone/ |
| 21:44.27 | DWSR | Especially in ZvP |
| 21:44.38 | DWSR | Since Protoss have so many high powered but expensive units. |
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| 21:44.49 | foxlit | Did rush, though |
| 21:45.24 | PerfectH | Greetings AddOn authors, I have a quick question if some one can help a noob out? |
| 21:45.36 | DWSR | ~asktoask PerfectH |
| 21:45.43 | DWSR | sigh |
| 21:45.44 | DWSR | ~asktoask |
| 21:45.45 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 21:45.48 | ScytheBlade1 | ~fail DWSR |
| 21:45.49 | purl | DWSR: FAIL! |
| 21:45.55 | PerfectH | >.< |
| 21:45.56 | DWSR | ~whalenuke S |
| 21:45.57 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around S with his mind powers. |
| 21:46.03 | DWSR | Ok, THAT was a fail. |
| 21:46.06 | ScytheBlade1 | ~epicfail DWSR |
| 21:46.07 | ScytheBlade1 | hopes |
| 21:46.09 | ScytheBlade1 | nope |
| 21:46.12 | ScytheBlade1 | time to define that one |
| 21:46.15 | DWSR | ~fail ScytheBlade1 |
| 21:46.16 | purl | ScytheBlade1: FAIL! |
| 21:46.20 | DWSR | IT's ~epic fail |
| 21:46.23 | DWSR | ~epic fail ScytheBlade1 |
| 21:46.24 | purl | ScytheBlade1, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you ScytheBlade1, you are that epic failure. |
| 21:46.29 | ScytheBlade1 | wtf, really? |
| 21:46.32 | PerfectH | Right....well anyways. Here's the question: what is the best way to discover a specific spell id? |
| 21:46.39 | ScytheBlade1 | PerfectH: when? |
| 21:46.40 | DWSR | ~wowprogramming |
| 21:46.41 | purl | i guess wowprogramming is World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons - http://is.gd/7A3Jx - a book written by Cladhaire and Gazmik, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 21:46.57 | DWSR | Check out the API section at WoWProgramming for GetSpellInfo |
| 21:47.11 | DWSR | That *should* fit most scenarios. |
| 21:47.32 | PerfectH | I'll take a gander at that, thank you all very much :) |
| 21:47.57 | DWSR | PerfectH: If you know the name of the spell and you just want the ID for use, you can always use Wowhead. |
| 21:48.23 | PerfectH | Well I tried that...but I couldn't find where the ID was listed? |
| 21:48.24 | DWSR | PerfectH: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=47811 <-- For example. |
| 21:48.28 | DWSR | The ID is in the URL. |
| 21:48.31 | PerfectH | Oh geez. |
| 21:48.32 | PerfectH | >.< |
| 21:49.02 | PerfectH | Would Hearthstone be considered an item or a spell? |
| 21:49.13 | PerfectH | WoWHead shows it as item but... |
| 21:49.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Both. It has an item component, and a spell component. |
| 21:49.35 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=8690 |
| 21:50.04 | Fisker | anyone know where i can download a random test file that's ~100MB big? |
| 21:50.05 | PerfectH | So if I am just interested in the spell component, that's the id I want to use? |
| 21:50.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup |
| 21:50.23 | PerfectH | Got it. Thank you kindly :) |
| 21:50.50 | ScytheBlade1 | btw |
| 21:50.54 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=6948 <-- item page for the hearth |
| 21:51.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Hover over the Use: text. |
| 21:51.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Note you can click it! |
| 21:51.04 | ScytheBlade1 | :) |
| 21:51.14 | DWSR | ^ |
| 21:51.39 | PerfectH | Wicked! Thanks again :) |
| 21:51.43 | ScytheBlade1 | np |
| 21:54.03 | Fisker | wtf this is insane |
| 21:54.08 | DWSR | Yes, yes it is. |
| 21:54.20 | Fisker | if i start a torrent i can't get response from the dns server |
| 21:54.27 | Fisker | when i stop it i can get a response from it again |
| 21:54.30 | Fisker | O_o |
| 21:54.35 | Kraps | oh look this guy has the cata alpha! http://www.wowhead.com/?forums&topic=151189&p=1960990 |
| 21:55.28 | Fisker | already deleted Kraps |
| 21:55.48 | Kraps | what do you mean? |
| 21:56.25 | DWSR | BREAK YOU |
| 21:56.43 | Kraps | wat |
| 21:57.12 | zenzelezz | "Technically it's legal, seeing as it's not a private server. It's actually a Localhost realm." |
| 21:57.18 | zenzelezz | sounds like a very private server to me |
| 21:58.59 | DWSR | lol. |
| 22:02.42 | tlund | are people still using MaNGOS to run private servers? |
| 22:03.09 | tlund | i hade a look at the source back in 2006 when i was trying to figure out the format of the realmlist as sent by the login server when you connect |
| 22:03.49 | ZorbaTHut | if murrdurr is correct, then it's quite possible the "alpha version" was literally a standalone WoW instance, with the "server" built in |
| 22:04.10 | ZorbaTHut | and therefore there would be no reverse-engineering required, just running the binary and walking around |
| 22:06.02 | Fisker | murrdurr isn't correct |
| 22:06.21 | Fisker | someone just made a simple sandbox |
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| 22:27.45 | Shirik | heh |
| 22:27.49 | Shirik | goto Issue;// Yes, I used a goto. It's not always a Bad Thingâ¢. Contact me if you want me to prove you wrong. -- Matt |
| 22:28.03 | ReAn | lol |
| 22:28.06 | ReAn | where was that? |
| 22:28.13 | ZorbaTHut | matt is awesome. |
| 22:28.27 | Shirik | Matt is me |
| 22:28.29 | Shirik | and in my code |
| 22:29.46 | zenzelezz | laughing at your own comments is possibly worse than laughing at your own jokes |
| 22:30.03 | Shirik | hey |
| 22:30.06 | Shirik | it's true |
| 22:30.07 | Shirik | admit it |
| 22:31.01 | zenzelezz | sure, and tomorrow you'll be praising setjmp and longjmp |
| 22:31.40 | ReAn | one of my favorite comments was in java |
| 22:31.51 | ReAn | catch (Exception e) {} // I like to live dangerously! |
| 22:31.53 | Shirik | setjmp and longjmp break comments |
| 22:32.07 | Shirik | er |
| 22:32.10 | Shirik | break exceptions |
| 22:32.31 | ReAn | (that wasn't my comment) |
| 22:32.33 | zenzelezz | goto is the first step on the road to longjmp |
| 22:32.40 | Shirik | goto is safe |
| 22:32.43 | Shirik | setjmp and longjmp are not |
| 22:33.52 | Shirik | if you really wanted to say that, then I'd go "setjmp is the first step on the road to __asm MOV pc, MyCode" |
| 22:33.59 | Shirik | well |
| 22:34.01 | Shirik | longjmp is |
| 22:34.22 | zenzelezz | I didn't say longjmp was the end point |
| 22:34.33 | Shirik | eh I'm mixing my architectures again aren't I |
| 22:34.37 | Shirik | intel is eip? |
| 22:35.32 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:38.21 | Dagmar | OH F**K |
| 22:38.37 | Dagmar | Google Street View has a freaking anaglyphic 3D view mode now (glasses required, obviously) |
| 22:38.45 | Dagmar | That's awesome |
| 22:40.34 | Cide | fail |
| 22:40.39 | Cide | why does it use old technology |
| 22:40.53 | Cide | polarized light is superior |
| 22:43.44 | Duman | holy fucking earthquak |
| 22:44.08 | zenzelezz | earthquack? |
| 22:44.12 | Duman | The magnitude 6.9 event occurred 26 km (16 miles) SSW of Guadalupe Victoria, Baja California, Mexico. |
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| 22:45.41 | Dagmar | Cide: Why do you not have a polarized display? |
| 22:45.42 | kneeki | Hey all |
| 22:45.43 | Dagmar | Your screen sucks |
| 22:46.03 | Fisker | btw Dagmar |
| 22:46.04 | Fisker | it's old |
| 22:46.09 | Cide | hm? |
| 22:46.12 | Cide | @ Dagmar |
| 22:47.09 | Cide | I don't know how the nvidia 3d tech does it actually |
| 22:47.24 | Dagmar | Cide: It depends |
| 22:47.49 | Dagmar | You can use the anaglyph glasses at half the frame rate, or you can use special glasses with a sync cable |
| 22:48.05 | Dagmar | It all depends on how much you want to spend. |
| 22:48.14 | Dagmar | Either way, the utility in WoW is dubious at best. |
| 22:48.15 | Cide | what does the sync cable do anyway? |
| 22:48.33 | Cide | syncs it obviously but how does it shut out every other frame? |
| 22:48.45 | Cide | since monitors can't polarize light at will |
| 22:48.48 | Dagmar | Makes sure one of the LCD filters over your eyes is opaque at all times |
| 22:49.01 | Cide | ah, gotcha |
| 22:49.10 | Dagmar | It's just a simple left-off, right-on... right-off, left-on thing like you'd expefct |
| 22:49.27 | Cide | yeah, didn't know the glasses shut out the light mechanically |
| 22:49.33 | Cide | but I suppose that's why it's so expensive |
| 22:50.50 | Dagmar | I hate snake oil salesmen |
| 22:51.37 | Dagmar | They're advertising another one of those bullshit "fuel economizers" on CNN, and now here I am tearing some CTO a new asshole |
| 22:52.18 | Dagmar | They're claiming fuel economy improvement of 18-25% by simply plugging something into your cigarette lighter. |
| 22:52.37 | Dagmar | I would like to suggest an alternate technique for their "certified tests". |
| 22:53.01 | Cide | was it advertised 4 days ago by any chance? |
| 22:53.12 | Dagmar | I'd like to see them use the same vehicles, and perform the same tests, but instead of plugging this into the cigarette lighter, I'd like them to shove it up the driver's ass. |
| 22:53.20 | Dagmar | I'll wager the results will be better. |
| 22:53.50 | Dagmar | Maybe people will then be able to order a device they can shove up their ass to get "up to" 30% more fuel efficiency |
| 22:54.09 | Dagmar | Cide: It's been airing a couple of days, but I just now looked into it before I realized what I was doing. |
| 22:54.39 | Cide | sounds like an april fool to me |
| 22:55.02 | Dagmar | It also aired about ten minutes ago |
| 22:55.06 | Shirik | Cide: The newer ones aren't mechanical actually |
| 22:55.10 | Dagmar | It's not a joke, it's a ripoff |
| 22:55.10 | Shirik | they have invisible LCDs inside them |
| 22:55.15 | Shirik | that black themselves out |
| 22:55.34 | Shirik | but the older ones yeah |
| 22:55.41 | Shirik | s/invisible/clear/ |
| 22:56.26 | Dagmar | Cide: http://www.fueldoctorusa.com/ <-- try not to blow your top if you look through the results of the certified tests. |
| 22:56.37 | Cide | Shirik, well "active" filtering then |
| 22:56.48 | Cide | the polarized light goggles used in cinemas are "passive" |
| 22:56.54 | Cide | so no need for sync |
| 22:56.54 | Shirik | how else would you expect it to work :) |
| 22:56.56 | Cide | that's what I meant |
| 22:56.59 | Shirik | You want to buy a special monitor? |
| 22:57.03 | Cide | no |
| 22:57.08 | Cide | I was asking what technology was used |
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| 22:57.16 | Dagmar | "lots" |
| 22:57.30 | Dagmar | Their drivers handle whatever weird-ass hardware you want to throw in |
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| 22:58.02 | Cide | .. |
| 22:58.08 | Cide | everyone misunderstand me it seems |
| 22:58.24 | Cide | oh |
| 22:58.26 | Cide | I missed a word |
| 22:58.29 | Cide | <Cide> yeah, didn't know the glasses shut out the light mechanically |
| 22:58.31 | Cide | should be |
| 22:58.37 | Cide | <Cide> yeah, didn't know *HOW* the glasses shut out the light mechanically |
| 22:59.00 | Dagmar | Straight up they're just big LCDs |
| 22:59.14 | Cide | yeah |
| 22:59.17 | Cide | pretty neat |
| 22:59.51 | Iriel | In the old days theatre 3d used to use 2 projectors |
| 22:59.55 | Iriel | not sure if they're doing that any more |
| 22:59.59 | Dagmar | THey don't. |
| 23:00.13 | Dagmar | In the theatre they're using digital projectors for a reason. |
| 23:00.30 | Iriel | are they doing frame alternation? |
| 23:00.33 | Dagmar | yep. |
| 23:00.40 | Cide | I figured they were using a single projector at twice the framerate and an alternating polaroid filter |
| 23:00.52 | Cide | nowadays, that is |
| 23:01.01 | Dagmar | Same stuff as the last time they had grey/polarized 3D glasses movies, just more expensive equipment |
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| 23:01.20 | Dagmar | Well, yeah that and one projector instead of two |
| 23:01.39 | Cide | pretty neat technology in any case |
| 23:01.48 | Cide | even if it's not very scientifically complex |
| 23:02.21 | Dagmar | It looks good |
| 23:02.29 | Dagmar | I hated the color anaglyph films |
| 23:06.10 | Shirik | but those tinted glasses made you look cool |
| 23:06.12 | Shirik | now it's just boring |
| 23:06.26 | Dagmar | No, now you're free to wear them in whatever colors you want |
| 23:06.31 | Dagmar | I was always fond of purple/blue |
| 23:06.44 | Shirik | who's gonna make red and green mismatched polarized glasses |
| 23:06.46 | zenzelezz | color anaglyphs looked like a decoder error; frame alternation looks like a driver error |
| 23:07.00 | zenzelezz | (when you don't use the appropriate glasses) |
| 23:07.24 | Cide | so what do you perceive when you turn the glasses upside down? I haven't tried this |
| 23:07.33 | Shirik | An inverse if your mind can comprehend it |
| 23:07.41 | Shirik | for example, if you were looking at a bowl |
| 23:07.45 | Shirik | it would look like it's coming out at you instead |
| 23:07.50 | Dagmar | That your eyeballs are twisting in their sockets |
| 23:07.50 | Cide | you think so? |
| 23:07.58 | Shirik | but if you try to look at something complex that has little meaning, your brain gives up and gives you a flat picture |
| 23:08.00 | Shirik | I know so |
| 23:08.04 | Shirik | this came up during one of my physics classes |
| 23:08.08 | Cide | oh |
| 23:08.10 | Cide | that's awesome then |
| 23:08.11 | Dagmar | It's not pleasant, and mainly your brain just goes "durrr..." |
| 23:08.47 | Dagmar | I can never remember which way I'm supposed to wear the damn glasses I have |
| 23:09.05 | Dagmar | ...so I've gotten used to staring at the screen and finally figuring out why it looks like crap. |
| 23:09.20 | Shirik | lol |
| 23:10.01 | Iriel | I had a really old pair of shutter glasses that only used IR for 'switch eye' |
| 23:10.16 | Iriel | So every time you used them youd have a 50% chance of it starting up wrong |
| 23:10.22 | Cide | haha |
| 23:10.23 | Shirik | lol |
| 23:10.26 | Cide | they couldn't use two signals? |
| 23:10.35 | Iriel | These days they've fixed that issue |
| 23:10.35 | zenzelezz | I heard someone claim that if you use contacts that invert the picture (turn it upside down) and wear them constantly, after some time (days? weeks?) your brain flips it automatically. Know if there's any truth to that? |
| 23:10.39 | Shirik | that is pretty poor engineering |
| 23:10.54 | DWSR | zenzelezz: Yes, it does. |
| 23:10.54 | Dagmar | zenzelezz: No, but mainly because you can't get contact lenses like that |
| 23:10.56 | Shirik | zenzelezz: Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised |
| 23:10.59 | DWSR | zenzelezz: You will adjust to it. |
| 23:11.00 | Iriel | I think it was a matter of 'the current state of technology' -- this was over 10 years ago |
| 23:11.06 | Iriel | There have been studies about that |
| 23:11.06 | Iriel | t |
| 23:11.12 | zenzelezz | Dagmar: not natural contacts, special-made for the purpose |
| 23:11.13 | Iriel | Though it wasn't contacts |
| 23:11.19 | Dagmar | zenzelezz: You *can* get a set of mirrors and wear something on your face like a welders mask gone horribly wrong |
| 23:11.19 | Iriel | they were these major eyepiece things |
| 23:11.22 | Dagmar | It will work. |
| 23:11.34 | Dagmar | It's entirely bizarre to be "sticking" to the ceiling. |
| 23:11.36 | zenzelezz | maybe contacts is the wrong word, I heard this in Norwegian, and I'm not sufficiently familiar with the terminology in English |
| 23:12.15 | Dagmar | I can't think of *any* way to make contact lenses do that, but headgear yeah |
| 23:12.17 | Dagmar | Been there ,done that |
| 23:12.37 | Dagmar | LSD is better. :) |
| 23:12.43 | Shirik | lol |
| 23:12.57 | zenzelezz | LSD on your eyes? :-o |
| 23:13.02 | Dagmar | No thank you. |
| 23:13.32 | Dagmar | Windowpane is for people who are clueless or haven't kept up to date. You DON'T NEED ten thousand micrograms. Two fiddy will do fine |
| 23:13.54 | Dagmar | Windowpane == LSD in gelatin suspension sliced thinly |
| 23:14.10 | Dagmar | Yech |
| 23:14.17 | Iriel | http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=127812 |
| 23:15.27 | zenzelezz | hm, interesting :) |
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| 23:36.13 | DWSR | Can you pop Images with the flag in WSG/EotS? |
| 23:47.09 | Fisker | blows up DWSR |
| 23:47.12 | Fisker | what a shame |
| 23:48.16 | DWSR | was using the Dead Ringer. |
| 23:49.57 | Fisker | listen for the obvious decloak sound and blows up DWSR again |
| 23:51.59 | DWSR | Too bad for you |
| 23:52.06 | DWSR | I was near a full ammo pack. |
| 23:52.56 | Fisker | listens for the obvious decloak sound and blows up DWSR again |
| 23:52.56 | Fisker | unlike the ammo pack there's no cooldown for finding you again |
| 23:53.07 | DWSR | You assume that you *can* find me again. |
| 23:53.21 | DWSR | Unfortunately for you, they made the decloak a lot quieter. |
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| 23:53.34 | Fisker | i know |
| 23:53.40 | Fisker | but i have good ears |
| 23:53.56 | DWSR | Shadowed: I found an instance in EG which makes it appear that people don't have gear equipped in a slot, but upon an actual /inspect'ion, they do. |
| 23:54.03 | Shadowed | I know, I saw |
| 23:54.09 | DWSR | Ah, didn't know if you did. |
| 23:54.14 | DWSR | That a Blizzard inspect bug? |
| 23:54.33 | Shadowed | dunno |
| 23:56.45 | Fisker | is it a Shadowed bug? |
