| 00:00.03 | Gnarfoz | that's from battle.net 1.0 days |
| 00:00.09 | DWSR_ | cbreak: I believe that you're referring to the downloader faq. |
| 00:00.15 | Gnarfoz | port 6112 ftw |
| 00:00.21 | DWSR_ | Yep |
| 00:00.21 | cbreak | maybe. |
| 00:00.37 | DWSR_ | Anyway, back to the topic at hand. |
| 00:00.41 | cbreak | maybe it's just written for people with outgoing whitelist |
| 00:00.46 | Gnarfoz | yes indeed, I am hungry! |
| 00:00.51 | DWSR_ | Stricter punishment for people who get a high number of reports. |
| 00:00.56 | DWSR_ | plz, kthx. |
| 00:01.15 | cbreak | did the AFK reporting in BGs help? |
| 00:01.16 | Gnarfoz | you'd be surprised how few people use the report feature :( |
| 00:01.20 | DWSR_ | cbreak: No. |
| 00:01.26 | DWSR_ | Still get tons of AFKers. |
| 00:01.32 | Gnarfoz | obvious solution: more people should use BadBoy -> more reports :P |
| 00:02.02 | DWSR_ | AFK reporting in BGs didn't help shit. |
| 00:02.20 | Gnarfoz | it doesn't help because it can't be automated much |
| 00:02.23 | DWSR_ | I still see tons of people who AFK in BGs on a nightly basis. |
| 00:02.46 | Gnarfoz | it would be easy to get a userbase for an automated BG AFK reporting addon, if something like that could be feasibly made |
| 00:02.49 | DWSR_ | Gnarfoz: I go back to: If you're getting a few hundred reports about it, you should be tempbanned until a GM can review your case." |
| 00:03.07 | Gnarfoz | well, you're squelched until a GM reviews your case already |
| 00:03.15 | Gnarfoz | and it kicks in at about 10 reports |
| 00:03.21 | DWSR_ | Gnarfoz: I meant for BG AFKers. |
| 00:03.24 | Gnarfoz | oh, that |
| 00:03.44 | DWSR_ | Seriously. |
| 00:03.44 | Gnarfoz | heh, that would require manpower they're apparently not willing to invest ^^ |
| 00:04.03 | DWSR_ | So we go back to my /original/ original point: They obviously don't care that much. |
| 00:07.02 | DWSR_ | Also, getting the userbase outraged is a good way to force people from inaction. |
| 00:07.42 | DWSR_ | Because we all know they're not going to pack up their accounts at the first inconvenience. Extended maintenance /every/ content patch has shown us that. |
| 00:10.35 | Lunessa | Actually, there was an AddOn that auto-reported AFKers in BGs. The result? The ability to auto-file tickets was severely curtailed. |
| 00:10.42 | Arrowmaster | so anybody else on linux notice that youtube is using a lot of cpu% now with the adobe flash plugin? just in standard res mode, if you use the TEXTp it eats your cpu alive |
| 00:11.47 | DWSR_ | Arrowmaster: I've noticed Flash player doing this on Windows. |
| 00:11.51 | DWSR_ | Not just on YT. |
| 00:11.58 | Gnarfoz | <DWSR_> Because we all know they're not going to pack up their accounts at the first inconvenience. Extended maintenance /every/ content patch has shown us that. <-- only in the US, hahaha :D |
| 00:11.59 | DWSR_ | On Redtube and Spankwire as well. |
| 00:12.00 | DWSR_ | ohwait. |
| 00:12.09 | DWSR_ | damnit >.< |
| 00:12.18 | Gnarfoz | also, you make yourself look stupid when you use "us" & "we" instead of "I" |
| 00:13.36 | DWSR_ | also, you make yourself look stupid. |
| 00:13.43 | Gnarfoz | nah, I don't |
| 00:13.51 | cbreak | Flash is a pile of crap |
| 00:13.56 | zenzelezz | you both look stupid right about now ;) |
| 00:14.00 | cbreak | it uses 100% cpu just by being loaded often |
| 00:14.01 | Gnarfoz | there's another 8 million or so players that are not even in the same service region you play in, yet you claim to know their situation |
| 00:14.48 | DWSR_ | Gnarfoz: There are 8 million players that are not even in my service region who are still subscribers after the recent extended maintenance from a content patch. |
| 00:14.56 | DWSR_ | And while one data point isn't a trend, they're still subscribers. |
| 00:15.16 | Gnarfoz | except that that maintenance you refer to didn't affect them |
| 00:15.34 | cbreak | maintenance downtime is not significant |
| 00:15.39 | cbreak | primetime downtine is a pain though |
| 00:15.56 | Gnarfoz | haven't had that for 4 years on the EU realms I play on <3 |
| 00:16.14 | cbreak | I had that four out of seven evenings two weeks ago |
| 00:16.15 | DWSR_ | mhm, lucky you |
| 00:16.27 | Mikk | Gnarfoz: not even during TBC launch? oO |
| 00:16.29 | cbreak | well, once it was a major outage |
| 00:16.30 | DWSR_ | cbreak: Yeah, the 3.3.3 patch broke my realm's instance servers. |
| 00:16.35 | Mikk | wth kind of server do you play on then? rppvp or something? =P |
| 00:16.44 | DWSR_ | Mikk: Yeah, I do, actually. |
| 00:16.45 | cbreak | and three were random partial disconnects and freezes |
| 00:16.53 | Gnarfoz | Mikk: no, HFP was kind of crowded, but the server survived |
| 00:16.58 | cbreak | my guild can't even get enough people for ICC25 since then :( |
| 00:17.00 | Arrowmaster | DWSR_: yes spankwire tends to have bad flash performance on linux too, redtube is usually fine on performance though |
| 00:17.01 | Gnarfoz | Mikk: rp-pvp, indeed, actually ^^ |
| 00:17.11 | DWSR_ | Gnarfoz: The only kind of server, amirite? |
| 00:17.13 | Gnarfoz | PVP, before that |
| 00:17.31 | DWSR_ | Anyway, I'm out to get some farking *food*. |
| 00:17.33 | DWSR_ | Laters! |
| 00:18.07 | Gnarfoz | heh, I'll do just that, too |
| 00:18.14 | Gnarfoz | but you know... DUTY CALLS! (http://xkcd.com/386/) |
| 00:18.27 | Mikk | lmao |
| 00:18.28 | Mikk | again |
| 00:18.31 | Mikk | old but brilliant |
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| 00:26.44 | Shirik | Kraps: pong |
| 00:28.21 | Adys | Mikk: done any bgs lately? |
| 00:28.49 | Adys | alliance is winning everything |
| 00:29.58 | Adys | i just did 4 more in the last hour. one ab we won 5-0, another ab against a premade we won 1600-1440, another "losing" isle of conquest which we still won, and just now another sota, again against a premade, won as well |
| 00:30.07 | Adys | its been like this since 3.3.3 |
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| 00:35.32 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCRUPWDIgYM&feature=player_embedded |
| 00:35.38 | Wobin | Muppets Easter --^ |
| 00:42.21 | Wobin | although, I still think http://www.youtube.com/user/MuppetsStudio#p/u/0/tgbNymZ7vqY is the best of the lot |
| 00:43.42 | Adys | another AB won 5-0 |
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| 00:43.56 | kd3 | I wanna be on your battlegroup |
| 00:44.02 | kd3 | sighs at ruin's craptacular alliance |
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| 00:44.53 | alestane | You're in Ruin? |
| 00:45.02 | kd3 | I play on Medivh |
| 00:45.06 | Adys | kd3: i swear to god, its like this only since 3.3.3 |
| 00:45.15 | alestane | I've never been thrilled at our BG showings either. |
| 00:45.29 | Adys | ive won bgs i'd categorize as lost before they even begin |
| 00:45.32 | Adys | half the group in blues |
| 00:45.44 | Adys | final scoreboard 80hks for horde, 15-20hks for ally |
| 00:46.12 | Adys | woops, honor capped again. |
| 00:47.37 | Adys | not playing a lot, this is about 80-100k honor / day |
| 00:47.41 | Adys | including wg |
| 00:48.05 | Adys | so about 2000-2500g/day in gems |
| 00:48.15 | Adys | depending on whether i feel like getting them cut |
| 00:48.58 | cbreak | one gem costs about 150g, probably less and costs 10k honor. |
| 00:49.21 | Adys | you can easily sell cuts at 200-240g |
| 00:49.24 | Adys | particularly since i play at night |
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| 00:51.19 | Adys | its not an insane amount of gold, but it's fun as hell to get |
| 00:51.38 | cbreak | too bad you have to waste your time in PvP for it |
| 00:52.00 | Adys | are you one of these wads who think arena is the Truth in PvP or something? |
| 00:52.04 | Adys | bgs are fun, have always been |
| 00:52.15 | cbreak | no |
| 00:52.21 | Adys | then? |
| 00:52.25 | cbreak | I am one of those who think that players should work together |
| 00:52.28 | cbreak | and not fight each other |
| 00:52.34 | Adys | okay |
| 00:52.42 | cbreak | we're all on the same side, the lich king would kill both horde and alliance |
| 00:52.47 | Adys | right |
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| 01:03.51 | Kraps | Shirik: wiki's front page |
| 01:04.17 | Shirik | what about it? |
| 01:04.24 | Kraps | aww no anymore |
| 01:04.30 | Kraps | not* |
| 01:04.30 | Shirik | yeah |
| 01:04.45 | Kraps | good stuff |
| 01:04.51 | OhGrimes | Guys I want to have a button which switches between contents in a frame |
| 01:05.07 | OhGrimes | Should I just create an frame inside a frame, and child it to the main frame |
| 01:05.29 | OhGrimes | And just attach the things I want to go invisible to the frame I created inside.. the...main frame |
| 01:09.58 | Wobin | http://us.battle.net/matchmaking.html |
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| 01:30.14 | Kraps | is it ok to defriend people i dont know? |
| 01:33.00 | cbreak | defriend? |
| 01:33.04 | cbreak | kill their friends? |
| 01:33.26 | cbreak | or drive their friends away? that sounds evil. |
| 01:33.44 | Kraps | hah? |
| 01:34.20 | Kraps | on facebook |
| 01:39.35 | OhGrimes | Can anyone see an error here http://pastebin.com/Z2XULF8H |
| 01:39.47 | OhGrimes | Whenever the button is pushed, I get a Lua error |
| 01:40.01 | Wobin | what error? |
| 01:40.24 | OhGrimes | attempt to call method 'IsVisible' (a nil value) |
| 01:40.40 | Wobin | because you're calling a function on a string |
| 01:40.57 | Wobin | also, please learn to indent your code |
| 01:41.21 | OhGrimes | I'll give you an indent GITOVA HERE GITOVA GIVE YA AN INDENT |
| 01:41.29 | OhGrimes | Yeah I should. |
| 01:41.32 | Wobin | shrugs |
| 01:41.46 | Wobin | If I have difficulty reading your code, I won't help you |
| 01:43.56 | ZorbaTHut | indenting isn't just a matter of readability for other people, it's also a matter of readability for yourself |
| 01:44.12 | OhGrimes | I'll try to get better with my indenting! |
| 01:44.22 | ZorbaTHut | structure your code so that it's obviously correct and re-readable. it's important. good editors will do that for you so you have no excuse ;) |
| 01:44.31 | ZorbaTHut | (unless you're using a crappy editor, in which case, stop, and use a good one) |
| 01:44.41 | OhGrimes | notepad++ |
| 01:45.26 | Kraps | lol @ people "COPY AND PASTE IF HATE THE NEW YOUTUBE" |
| 01:45.32 | Kraps | um, no? |
| 01:45.43 | Kraps | 1. i like it |
| 01:45.51 | Kraps | 2. it aint changing |
| 01:46.08 | Wobin | well, you pretty much had it at 1 |
| 01:46.18 | Arrowmaster | the part where it tracks my viewing history even when im not logged in? |
| 01:46.20 | OhGrimes | So I can't do "string":IsVisible? |
| 01:46.47 | Wobin | because you're checking if a string variable has a function IsVisible? |
| 01:47.19 | Arrowmaster | fuck i think the remote for my ceiling fan is finally dead |
| 01:47.21 | Wobin | which, invariably it wouldn't, as it's a string. |
| 01:47.33 | Wobin | Arrowmaster, stick it up against your chin =) |
| 01:47.34 | Arrowmaster | goes to steal the remote for the other room and reprogram it |
| 01:47.35 | OhGrimes | What I was trying to do is, I have a frame called mainFrame |
| 01:47.37 | ZorbaTHut | grimes, if you're trying to do something like local mystr = "MyFrame"; mystr:IsVisible() and have it be equivalent to MyFrame:IsVisible(), then you might be able to do _G[mystr]:IsVisible() |
| 01:47.47 | ZorbaTHut | note that this only works if your frame is a global, not a local |
| 01:48.07 | OhGrimes | Maybe I'll just make multiple functions. |
| 01:48.13 | Wobin | but since he's passing the value in, he can just use hideshow(mainFrame) |
| 01:48.21 | Wobin | and hideshow(sbFrame) |
| 01:48.34 | Kraps | Arrowmaster: oh google is sentient now? took long enough |
| 01:48.45 | Arrowmaster | Wobin: no its dead as in not sending any signal, and yes i know about that trick with remote car locks |
| 01:50.57 | Shirik | You know it's bad when you write inline assembly with the tag //TODO: Fix later |
| 01:50.59 | Shirik | because it's simpler |
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| 02:04.57 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v-v3jh-Cco |
| 02:06.02 | Wobin | oh god |
| 02:07.05 | Wobin | the autotuner is the worst invention of the last century =P |
| 02:07.41 | Kraps | the best when used like this :P |
| 02:08.29 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qizNQKzatXA |
| 02:19.30 | Wobin | ... turtle... fence.... equated to the health care? |
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| 02:21.49 | Wobin | yeah, I stand by my previous statement =P |
| 02:23.00 | Arrowmaster | those videos kinda overdo it though to make it sound that roboty |
| 02:24.56 | cbreak | why do US politicians care about turtle fences? |
| 02:25.10 | cbreak | that country has enough real problems. |
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| 02:25.29 | kd3 | because they want to look like they care but not deal with real issues? |
| 02:26.12 | Wobin | and they can use it as an analogy for the health care plan |
| 02:31.13 | Shirik | http://www.27bslash6.com/easter.html |
| 02:31.14 | Shirik | lol |
| 02:38.47 | batrick | HI SHIRIK |
| 02:42.12 | Shirik | hi batrick |
| 02:45.22 | cog|away | tekkub: |
| 02:45.25 | cog|away | http://rationalia.com/forum/download/file.php?avatar=231_1269779412.jpg |
| 02:45.41 | tekkub | eeew |
| 02:45.57 | tekkub | I got this hamsteak breakfast this morning |
| 02:46.08 | tekkub | the lady looked at me weird when I asked for bacon instead of eggs |
| 02:46.22 | tekkub | then Trey had to try to explain it, like it was any of her fucking business anyway |
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| 02:55.44 | cogwheel | why would anyone need an explanation for ordering bacon? |
| 02:55.54 | cogwheel | it's bacon for jesse's sake |
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| 02:57.29 | tekkub | well it was like a 12oz hamsteak |
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| 03:04.18 | Stew-a | hey, if i wanted a fontstring with a mouseover/mouseout event, what'd be teh best way to go about doing it |
| 03:04.43 | cogwheel | fontstrings don't exist unless they're on a frame, so... |
| 03:04.44 | cogwheel | ;) |
| 03:05.55 | Stew-a | yes, but i dont want the whole container frame to have the event, just the fontstring |
| 03:06.06 | Stew-a | or the area it fills |
| 03:06.44 | cogwheel | emphasis on "a" in "a frame" |
| 03:07.36 | Stew-a | well, i tried anchoring a frame onto the topleft/bottomright of the fontstring, but nothing happened |
| 03:07.46 | Arrowmaster | can fontstrings even have widget handlers? |
| 03:07.57 | cogwheel | Arrowmaster: hence my original response >< |
| 03:08.08 | cogwheel | Stew-a: so. close. |
| 03:08.15 | Stew-a | they do not, which is why there's a problem in the first place :P |
| 03:08.26 | Iriel | You can SetAllPoints the frame to a region |
| 03:09.02 | cogwheel | there you go handing out fish again :P |
| 03:09.25 | cogwheel | though i was heading towards putting the fontstring in the subframe |
| 03:10.15 | Iriel | cogwheel: more like a lure |
| 03:19.07 | cogwheel | IE9's subpixel rendering's pretty hawt |
| 03:19.41 | Arrowmaster | huh? |
| 03:19.43 | ScytheBlade1 | debats it |
| 03:19.47 | ScytheBlade1 | +e |
| 03:20.00 | Stanzilla | it's DirectD2 |
| 03:20.02 | cogwheel | http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/Default.html |
| 03:20.51 | Arrowmaster | is this an april fools joke? |
| 03:20.58 | cogwheel | O.o |
| 03:21.02 | cogwheel | no |
| 03:21.15 | Stanzilla | no |
| 03:21.21 | ScytheBlade1 | nope |
| 03:21.26 | ScytheBlade1 | old news, in fact |
| 03:21.29 | ScytheBlade1 | (old for the internets) |
| 03:21.29 | Arrowmaster | then why are they highlighting how bad it does on Acid3? |
| 03:21.30 | cogwheel | ^ |
| 03:21.38 | cogwheel | they're not. they're being honest |
| 03:21.39 | Stanzilla | it's not done yet |
| 03:21.49 | Stanzilla | and they want to improve there but it's not that important |
| 03:21.53 | ScytheBlade1 | They're highlighting doubling their score |
| 03:21.57 | Stanzilla | html5 > * |
| 03:22.00 | ScytheBlade1 | (At least, I think) |
| 03:22.21 | cogwheel | yep. they've also added a jiter to the javascript engine |
| 03:22.27 | cogwheel | it's on par with modern browsers |
| 03:23.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Second, instead of building a browser around a test designed to be incredibly hard to pass which uses piles and piles of arcane footnotes in standards documentation to base your browser effectiveness off of |
| 03:23.17 | ScytheBlade1 | *cough* |
| 03:23.27 | ScytheBlade1 | They scraped the top 7000 websites for every ounce of JS and HTML |
| 03:23.38 | ScytheBlade1 | And said, "anything that they use under any browser, we're going to support" |
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| 03:24.51 | ScytheBlade1 | from JS DOM objects to HTML elements to CSS stuff |
| 03:29.46 | Arrowmaster | where do i find info on this subpixel rendering? |
| 03:30.09 | ScytheBlade1 | !g font hinting ie 9 |
| 03:30.09 | Adys | ScytheBlade1: g 'font hinting ie 9' not found |
| 03:30.09 | batbot | ScytheBlade1: Font hinting for subpixel rendering in IE 9 in microsoft.public ... <http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/list/en-us/default.aspx?dg=microsoft.public.internetexplorer.beta&tid=a8506eb9-26a5-486c-97be-4d3aab7e8ab3&cat=&lang=&c...(tldr) |
| 03:30.24 | ScytheBlade1 | hm that isn't quite what I wanted |
| 03:30.24 | ScytheBlade1 | :/ |
| 03:30.32 | cogwheel | do the text size animated and text justification animated demos |
| 03:30.48 | Arrowmaster | cogwheel: i doubt the demos will work for me |
| 03:31.10 | cogwheel | i remember seeing a video of it somewhere... |
| 03:32.13 | cogwheel | maybe it was in this? http://channel9.msdn.com/posts/Charles/IE-9-Surfing-on-the-GPU-with-D2D/ |
| 03:32.30 | cogwheel | yeah... this is the one i was thinking of |
| 03:32.37 | ScytheBlade1 | I still hate that my desktop has a number labeled 'FPS' attached to it |
| 03:32.41 | ScytheBlade1 | That is actually meaningful |
| 03:33.38 | Arrowmaster | the problem i see with this is that it uses subpixel rendering |
| 03:34.20 | cogwheel | it uses the gpu, so i assume it degrades gracefully |
| 03:34.43 | cogwheel | for crts and such (probably just looks antialiased) |
| 03:35.18 | ScytheBlade1 | There are some definite things that I wish linux did better, which windows just smokes linux in |
| 03:35.18 | cogwheel | it's more about positioning than the actual antialiasing |
| 03:36.17 | cogwheel | in current font renderers each glyph has to start at an integer pixel location |
| 03:36.28 | cogwheel | so when the text scales, it looks choppy |
| 03:36.42 | Stanzilla | http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/01/google-html5-quake/ < cool btw |
| 03:36.44 | cogwheel | and it also distorts the intent of the font designer |
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| 03:36.49 | Arrowmaster | the demos work for me but they look jumpy, but then again i dont doubt that they created these things to purposefully look bad on anything other than their IE9 preview |
| 03:36.59 | cogwheel | no. |
| 03:37.06 | cogwheel | you're being WAY too cynical |
| 03:37.11 | ScytheBlade1 | no, the one BIG thing they've been doing |
| 03:37.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Is compiling test after test after test for every little nitpicking thing they can think of |
| 03:37.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Making a hack job test would invalidate a LOT of their efforts pretty quickly |
| 03:38.14 | Arrowmaster | but when have you ever seen a webpage that does what these text scaling and text justification demos are doing? |
| 03:38.24 | ScytheBlade1 | 1) open a webpage |
| 03:38.26 | cogwheel | the scaling just illustrates the problem |
| 03:38.28 | ScytheBlade1 | 2) press ctrl and + |
| 03:38.30 | ScytheBlade1 | 3) ??? |
| 03:38.32 | ScytheBlade1 | etc |
| 03:38.33 | cogwheel | it affects the overall look of the page |
| 03:38.39 | cogwheel | from a graphic design standpoint |
| 03:38.51 | Arrowmaster | sbo thats completely different |
| 03:39.02 | ScytheBlade1 | no it really isn't |
| 03:39.14 | ScytheBlade1 | that will change zoom in/out views drastically |
| 03:39.36 | cogwheel | fonts are more readable when they're rendered more faithfully. |
| 03:39.39 | Arrowmaster | right but you dont do that and expect to be able to change between zoom levels with a smooth animation |
| 03:39.53 | ScytheBlade1 | The results will look infinitely better |
| 03:40.03 | ScytheBlade1 | I should say that (instead?) |
| 03:40.10 | Arrowmaster | imho subpixel rendering makes things look worse |
| 03:40.13 | ScytheBlade1 | The purpose of the animation is to show the smoothness |
| 03:40.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Get a better monitor |
| 03:40.20 | ScytheBlade1 | and/or better glasses |
| 03:40.29 | cogwheel | indeed |
| 03:40.54 | cogwheel | perhaps you have a BGR monitor? |
| 03:41.04 | cogwheel | if you're on windows you can run the cleartype tuner |
| 03:41.14 | Arrowmaster | there are a large number of people including me that find the added color around text from sub pixel rendering makes them look worse |
| 03:41.15 | cogwheel | on BGR it definitely looks worse |
| 03:41.16 | ScytheBlade1 | (highly recommended) |
| 03:41.23 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah you need a better monitor |
| 03:41.25 | cogwheel | ^ |
| 03:41.42 | cogwheel | if you're using a CRT, then yeah |
| 03:41.48 | ScytheBlade1 | You honestly cannot tell on a good LCD |
| 03:41.54 | cogwheel | if you're using an LCD then you need something bigger so you can sit further away from it |
| 03:41.54 | ScytheBlade1 | I have a good LCD and a "meh" LCD |
| 03:42.03 | ScytheBlade1 | You can tell that there is some added, blurred colors on the "meh" LCD |
| 03:42.07 | Arrowmaster | no im using a dell 2001fp, a $1000 S-IPS panel monitor when it was brand new |
| 03:42.27 | cogwheel | i still suggest the tuner |
| 03:42.32 | ScytheBlade1 | indeed |
| 03:42.37 | Arrowmaster | ive used it before, it always looked fucking horrible |
| 03:43.07 | cogwheel | is your vision like 20/10 or something? >< |
| 03:43.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Mine is 15/13 |
| 03:43.21 | ScytheBlade1 | And it still looks great :P |
| 03:43.39 | Arrowmaster | my vision is rather horrible |
| 03:44.26 | cogwheel | 15/13 is 20/17 |
| 03:44.40 | ScytheBlade1 | er? |
| 03:44.45 | cogwheel | it's a ratio |
| 03:44.56 | cogwheel | 20/20 |
| 03:45.05 | cogwheel | means at 20 feet you see what a normal person would at 20 feet |
| 03:45.10 | ScytheBlade1 | (<-- admittedly does not know much about eyesight.. just going on what the people who would know tell me :P) |
| 03:45.31 | kd3 | wishes he still had his teenage vision level of 20/15 |
| 03:45.33 | cogwheel | 20/10 means at 20 feet you see what average people see at 10 feet |
| 03:46.19 | ScytheBlade1 | So if I went from 20/15 to 15/13 a few years later, it got worse? :( |
| 03:46.19 | Arrowmaster | im so near sighted i cant see anything at 20 feet without my glasses |
| 03:46.33 | ScytheBlade1 | boo. |
| 03:46.53 | Wobin | ScytheBlade1, you're still ahead of the game though |
| 03:48.55 | cogwheel | i still say get a bigger monitor, sit farther away, and increase your font sizes. The fringing is only really noticeable when it can outweigh the blackness of the strokes |
| 03:51.55 | DWSR | Anyone having random lockups with the game client? |
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| 04:44.15 | Arathros | DWSR random lockups |
| 04:44.32 | Arathros | only the 2 where the whole party seems to loose connection with server in a LagLoop type |
| 04:46.04 | DWSR | No, I'm talking about the client hard locking |
| 04:52.36 | Iriel | I'd had the appearance of a hard lock but the crash window was on my desktop when I alt-tabbed |
| 04:55.34 | DWSR | Does the crash window spawn a seperate thread? |
| 04:55.42 | DWSR | Because my hard locks require the three fingered salute. |
| 04:57.55 | Iriel | mine haven't been that bad |
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| 05:13.32 | OhGrimes | Can I move an object if it's invisible |
| 05:13.59 | OhGrimes | Hm. Nevermind. I have to be able to. |
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| 05:17.35 | ZorbaTHut | pretty sure invisibility has no effect on whether or not you can move an object |
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| 05:39.45 | recluse | without fire, what is the best way to irrecoverably destroy a cd/dvd? |
| 05:39.45 | ccox | appreciates the irony of a HTML5 demo being displayed by Flash Player |
| 05:40.29 | OhGrimes | cut it in half with scissors |
| 05:40.41 | OhGrimes | Spin it on a Dremel |
| 05:40.58 | ZorbaTHut | recluse, chop it into tiny tiny pieces, drop half a dozen pieces in the trash every time you empty the trashcan? |
| 05:41.23 | recluse | hmm |
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| 05:41.57 | Arrowmaster | microwave |
| 05:42.01 | recluse | but even in tiny pieces, with forensic equipment, could the data (or a part of it) be recovered? |
| 05:42.32 | OhGrimes | What the hell is on that CD? |
| 05:42.35 | ZorbaTHut | yes, with much difficulty. smaller the pieces, less data. |
| 05:42.36 | OhGrimes | Is the REAL question! |
| 05:42.57 | recluse | yeah, i heard about the microwave, but i fear it would destroy the appliance in the process lol |
| 05:43.11 | Shadowed | if you're trying to destroy a CD so it can't be recovered |
| 05:43.14 | Shadowed | do you really care about an appliance |
| 05:43.19 | ZorbaTHut | microwave is quite safe for the appliance, from what I know, though I'm not convinced it'll completely obliterate the data |
| 05:43.36 | ccox | the microwave will obliterate the foil layer in the CD |
| 05:43.39 | ZorbaTHut | grind it into dust and you're pretty much completely safe. melting/burning it would work too. |
| 05:43.42 | ccox | data go byebye |
| 05:43.46 | ZorbaTHut | ccox, obliterate, or heavily damage? |
| 05:43.54 | ccox | heavily, heavily damage |
| 05:43.59 | ccox | try it |
| 05:44.04 | recluse | lol nothing illegal or anything of that nature, just personal data |
| 05:44.38 | ccox | I prefer the heavy duty shredder and drop the bits into 4 different trash bins method |
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| 05:44.45 | ZorbaTHut | recluse, I recommend applying the Hired Goon Test |
| 05:44.58 | ZorbaTHut | namely, figure out how much work they'd have to do to reconstruct the data |
| 05:45.18 | recluse | lol, i see |
| 05:45.20 | Arrowmaster | i dont really know how well the microwave works on recordable disc's but i think it obliterates pressed discs |
| 05:45.21 | ZorbaTHut | if that much work is less than the cost of just hiring some goons to break your fingers until you spill your guts, and you're not protected from the goons, then don't worry about it. |
| 05:45.39 | ZorbaTHut | so, microwave it for a few seconds, snap it into quarters, toss it in the trash, forget about it. |
| 05:46.34 | recluse | disc shredders are expensive, i believe - well, relatively. i guess it could be worth the investment if i had a lot of discs to destroy, or planned on having more in the future but |
| 05:47.55 | ccox | I just got a heavy duty paper/creditcard/CD shredder, $60 |
| 05:48.06 | recluse | so, i guess... sandpaper and shatter? |
| 05:48.19 | ccox | aircraft aluminum shears work well |
| 05:48.35 | recluse | i do have a pair of tinsnips... |
| 05:48.45 | ccox | close enough |
| 05:48.52 | ZorbaTHut | seriously microwave, it won't hurt the microwave at all. microwaves are durable. |
| 05:49.12 | ZorbaTHut | you want to damage the data layer, and microwave is a very efficient way to do so |
| 05:50.22 | Arrowmaster | although it is a bit random on how it damages the data layer |
| 05:50.44 | ZorbaTHut | and that's where the Hired Goon Test comes in. |
| 05:51.26 | Arrowmaster | be careful though if you do microwave it, it does produce toxic fumes |
| 05:51.27 | ZorbaTHut | anyone with the resources and interest in combing through your trash to find and reconstruct half-destroyed CDs certainly has the resources to punch you in the face repeatedly with a crowbar |
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| 05:52.46 | recluse | :p |
| 05:52.52 | Kraps | this is frikken genius http://www.mmo-champion.com/general-discussions/reinvention-stratholme/ |
| 05:54.37 | ZorbaTHut | kraps, that'd be fantastic, I must say |
| 05:55.25 | Kraps | same guy made this http://www.mmo-champion.com/general-discussions/reinvention-north-lordaeron/ |
| 05:58.09 | Arrowmaster | speaking of microwaves, when are they going to get smart enough that i dont have to guess how long it takes to reheat something |
| 05:58.21 | ZorbaTHut | arrowmaster, when we solve the ai-complete problem |
| 06:00.00 | recluse | couldn't they just use the same tech that is in those handheld temperature laser thermometers? |
| 06:00.05 | Arrowmaster | or when we develop a thermal sensor that can detect cold spots inside of a heated object and is affordable |
| 06:00.20 | recluse | well that might only relay surface temp =/ |
| 06:00.45 | Arrowmaster | those laser temp thingys are fun |
| 06:00.58 | Arrowmaster | i used one to measure different parts of my motherboard |
| 06:01.26 | Arrowmaster | i think my gfx ram was the hottest exposed spot i could find |
| 06:01.34 | recluse | hehe |
| 06:02.13 | Arrowmaster | over 100F idle on a hot day |
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| 06:26.03 | OhGrimes | http://pastebin.com/Qh6JyTey I want to have it so when mainFrame is invisible, I can still drag it around using fVisible (line 105) |
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| 06:26.49 | OhGrimes | fVisible is the button which hides and shows mainFrame, but I want to be able to move mainFrame around by dragging fVisible when mainFrame is hidden. :-/ |
| 06:27.17 | OhGrimes | I have intended and commented so it is readable I think! |
| 06:33.37 | recluse | OhGrimes: well, you have OnDragStart/Stop handlers for mainFrame, but none for fvisible. |
| 06:34.03 | OhGrimes | I added them and they didn't work. |
| 06:34.30 | OhGrimes | I tried a bunch of things. I don't have anything in place for it inside that paste since, well |
| 06:34.35 | OhGrimes | None of my ideas worked. |
| 06:35.01 | recluse | did the drag handlers call StartMoving on fVisible or mainFrame, though? |
| 06:35.17 | OhGrimes | I tried both. |
| 06:35.19 | OhGrimes | I believe. |
| 06:35.40 | OhGrimes | I remember now, I *think* |
| 06:35.49 | OhGrimes | I tried to set it so that it moved mainFrame |
| 06:35.56 | OhGrimes | Then it said that fVisible wasn't movable |
| 06:36.00 | OhGrimes | So I set it to movable |
| 06:36.05 | recluse | mainFrame is a child of fVisible it looks like, set point to the button. So, the button should be the frame that gets moved, the frame will follow automagically |
| 06:36.43 | recluse | did you fVisible:RegisterForDrag? |
| 06:37.00 | OhGrimes | Eyhhhup. |
| 06:37.08 | OhGrimes | Hold on. I'll add them back in. |
| 06:37.26 | OhGrimes | So you think I should setpoint on mainFrame to fVisible |
| 06:38.00 | OhGrimes | And set the drag script in mainFrame to move fVisible as well as set fVisible to move |
| 06:38.07 | recluse | well, mainFrame is created with fVisible as parent. So your current setpoint call should be set pointing to fvisible already |
| 06:38.11 | recluse | just, by default |
| 06:38.53 | recluse | i think that would make the most sense, yeah. frame&button ondragstart move button |
| 06:43.09 | OhGrimes | Hm. Did it and they both move independantly. |
| 06:43.40 | OhGrimes | http://pastebin.com/9xtnTuJD |
| 06:46.14 | OhGrimes | I tried making an invisible anchor frame but it just got complicated and didn't work. |
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| 06:51.39 | OhGrimes | Wobin maybe you might have some insight here! http://pastebin.com/9xtnTuJD |
| 06:51.54 | OhGrimes | Don't worry it's indented and commented |
| 06:52.26 | OhGrimes | fVisible is a button which controls hide() and show() of mainFrame |
| 06:52.49 | OhGrimes | But when mainFrame is invisible, I want to be able to move mainFrame around by dragging the fVisible button. |
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| 06:54.09 | recluse | hmm |
| 06:54.47 | Wobin | but it's not moving? |
| 06:55.35 | OhGrimes | The problem is they both move, but indepedently. |
| 06:58.58 | recluse | OhGrimes: http://recluse.pastebin.com/2aKnNzEf |
| 07:00.22 | recluse | after changing the handlers for fVisible's drag events to : rather than . calls, it worked fine. |
| 07:03.17 | OhGrimes | recluse: Cool. Thanks. |
| 07:06.21 | recluse | i suppose the issue lied in the . call showing self as fVisible, where : calls give mainFrame as self? |
| 07:07.34 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.3.x ToC: 30300 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Blizzcon 2010 Oct 22 & 23 | Happy Birthday Thunder-Child! |
| 07:13.18 | mikma | cairenn: http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/popup_kitty.gif |
| 07:13.27 | Cairenn | hehhehe |
| 07:14.13 | Wobin | signs up for the lego universe closed beta |
| 07:14.21 | Wobin | I wonder if I'll get an account =P |
| 07:14.32 | mikma | wobin: i wasn't able to get out of the starting place :( |
| 07:15.27 | Wobin | lego!faill =( |
| 07:18.26 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/33.jpg |
| 07:19.16 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/26.png :DDDDDDDD |
| 07:21.06 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/15.png |
| 07:21.42 | mikma | cairenn: http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/11.jpg |
| 07:21.44 | Adys | !api getgossip |
| 07:21.46 | lua_bot | Found 4 possible results for 'getgossip': GetGossipActiveQuests, GetGossipAvailableQuests, GetGossipOptions, GetGossipText |
| 07:21.56 | Cairenn | lol |
| 07:22.39 | Wobin | mikma, omg, There's a name -TEDWARD-? |
| 07:23.42 | mikma | wobin: where, where? |
| 07:24.07 | Wobin | on that facebook page |
| 07:24.11 | Wobin | look at siblings |
| 07:25.21 | mikma | oh wow |
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| 07:52.09 | Adys | !api getgossipoptions |
| 07:52.09 | lua_bot | GetGossipOptions: Returns a list of interaction options for the Gossip NPC (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetGossipOptions) |
| 07:52.13 | Adys | anyone in dalaran right now? |
| 07:52.53 | nevcairiel | sure |
| 07:53.07 | Adys | nevcairiel: can you go in the underbelly |
| 07:53.16 | Adys | at the vendor who sells water for something like 1 honor and 12 silver |
| 07:53.29 | Adys | female goblin |
| 07:54.10 | nevcairiel | 1 gold 12 honor |
| 07:54.17 | Adys | yeah |
| 07:54.25 | nevcairiel | but its a male goblin |
| 07:54.29 | Adys | is it 1g 12 honor, or 12 honor 1g? |
| 07:54.39 | nevcairiel | 1g 12 honor |
| 07:54.46 | Adys | thanks a lot |
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| 09:15.22 | mikma | wobin: http://mikma.eu/sekret/MnH_band_-_Popcorn__rmx_version__87_special_dj_.mp3 |
| 09:15.28 | mikma | wobin: just 4 u !!11 |
| 09:16.54 | Wobin | rocks out |
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| 10:15.31 | Adys | guest@xkcd:/$ python -c "import antigravity" |
| 10:15.31 | Adys | Unrecognized command. Type "help" for assistance. |
| 10:15.36 | Adys | I DEMAND AN EXPLANATION |
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| 10:56.11 | A-KO | so...is someone creating a mod that does the EPEEN number? :P |
| 11:09.57 | Fisker | already created and done |
| 11:09.59 | Fisker | welcome to 2010 |
| 11:11.12 | foxlit | Ad: "O have one million gold. Do you?" |
| 11:11.16 | foxlit | s/O/I/ |
| 11:12.09 | Fisker | if it shows a picture of the bag then i have a million gold too |
| 11:12.10 | Fisker | :o |
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| 11:16.16 | recluse | heh http://i43.tinypic.com/119ymo5.jpg |
| 11:40.37 | Wobin | http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/825465879_9RKdc-L.jpg |
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| 11:54.20 | industrial | loll |
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| 13:15.46 | Lopeppeppy | has a boredom. Yawn, yawn. |
| 13:16.08 | Cairenn | tickles Lopeppeppy, "Trust me, it's better than an excitement, most days" |
| 13:16.16 | Lopeppeppy | *purr* |
| 13:16.48 | Lopeppeppy | I got actual sleep. Now I'm in such a weird mood. |
| 13:16.53 | Cairenn | ! |
| 13:16.57 | Cairenn | zomg, sleep?! |
| 13:17.01 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah... very odd. |
| 13:17.55 | Lopeppeppy | 4 hours plus 2 hours, so 6 in the end. I think I'm drunk now. |
| 13:18.00 | Cairenn | heh |
| 13:18.22 | Cairenn | I went down and out for 13hrs |
| 13:18.23 | Cairenn | heh |
| 13:18.40 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:18.46 | ScytheBlade1 | I got actual sleep too! |
| 13:18.50 | ScytheBlade1 | AND I don't have work today! |
| 13:18.58 | Lopeppeppy | Wow. It's a freakin' trend! |
| 13:19.01 | ScytheBlade1 | is pleased |
| 13:19.05 | ScytheBlade1 | It gets better! |
| 13:19.06 | ScytheBlade1 | ++ |
| 13:19.58 | Lopeppeppy | You've got more? More than sleep AND a day off? |
| 13:20.10 | ScytheBlade1 | I evidently share a birthday with TC |
| 13:20.20 | Lopeppeppy | HOPPY BIRTHDAZE!!! |
| 13:20.26 | Lopeppeppy | To you and to TC! |
| 13:20.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup. It's pretty much perfect. |
| 13:20.34 | Cairenn | is your birfday too? |
| 13:20.48 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.3.x ToC: 30300 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Blizzcon 2010 Oct 22 & 23 | Happy Birthday Thunder-Child & ScytheBlade! |
| 13:20.51 | ScytheBlade1 | It's on wowi, has been on wowi since the start, dunno how you missed it all these years, Cairenn ;) |
| 13:20.55 | Cairenn | Happy Birthday ScytheBlade1 |
| 13:21.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Ohh, and |
| 13:21.24 | ScytheBlade1 | The family is out of the house.. have the place to myself for the weekend |
| 13:21.31 | Cairenn | sweet |
| 13:21.35 | ScytheBlade1 | (Now watch. My car is going to explode or something.) |
| 13:21.47 | Lopeppeppy | Just don't drive it! |
| 13:22.02 | Lopeppeppy | I have an entire google calendar for keeping track of birthdays. /edit |
| 13:22.07 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 13:22.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Bit overkill much? |
| 13:22.27 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: ditto |
| 13:22.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Ahh, so that's how you do it |
| 13:22.43 | ScytheBlade1 | I always figured you just mooched the data off of WoWI |
| 13:22.52 | Cairenn | actually, mine's a FF plugin, but same idea |
| 13:23.21 | Lopeppeppy | It's not overkill, it's keeping track of shit. Did you think I just had this fabulous memory I yanked things out of? No, I write it down! |
| 13:24.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Fair enough |
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| 14:23.42 | kneeki | Morning everyone |
| 14:23.48 | Lopeppeppy | Hiya. |
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| 14:37.05 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
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| 14:47.00 | Lopeppeppy | *purr* |
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| 14:50.01 | nicoli_s | feeling all better now Lopeppeppy? |
| 14:50.31 | Lopeppeppy | Well, not all-better, but I did sleep last night, and that has me in a rare good mood. I'm going out for lunch to enjoy the sunshines, maybe get a haircut. |
| 14:51.15 | nicoli_s | fun fun, its amazingly good looking outside here too |
| 14:51.40 | Lopeppeppy | It's been 35-40 and rainy for the last 2 weeks, now it's 75 and bright sunshines. |
| 14:51.44 | Lopeppeppy | OMG. Happy Peppy. |
| 14:51.52 | Adys | http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2010/04/science-writer-simon-singh-wins-libel-appeal/ |
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| 14:55.07 | Zyonin | Greetings channetl |
| 14:55.29 | Zyonin | Oh damn, that nasty debuff: "Typos" |
| 14:56.19 | Kraps | http://www.thedailyblink.com/2010/04/classic-periodicals-3-mages/ |
| 14:57.20 | Zyonin | :D I wonder what the next one will be? |
| 14:57.32 | Lopeppeppy | I hear that Caffeine is the only potion that can get rid of that debuff, and even so, it's a temporary effect. |
| 14:58.11 | Zyonin | As longs as you don't debuff yourself with Beer |
| 14:58.39 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: i'm enjoying some of that potion right now |
| 14:58.55 | Zyonin | Now, I think it's time to dig through the lab to see if I have the mats for a Tea potion |
| 15:00.05 | Lopeppeppy | Check carefully for the honey... |
| 15:00.32 | Lopeppeppy | afk lunchings! |
| 15:01.40 | Fisker | new episode of fringe is nice :o |
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| 15:03.01 | Kraps | Fisker: the 2 worlds colliding? |
| 15:04.12 | Fisker | rnaw |
| 15:04.14 | Fisker | naw* |
| 15:04.34 | Kraps | oic |
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| 15:08.42 | Shirik | tackles Lopeppeppy |
| 15:09.35 | nicoli_s | so shirik: is wow's built in string.find done in c? or is it in lua? |
| 15:09.58 | Shirik | C |
| 15:10.02 | Shirik | it's part of the Lua library |
| 15:11.12 | nicoli_s | so how could redoing it in lua provide a speedup? |
| 15:11.23 | nicoli_s | just curious |
| 15:13.10 | Shirik | heh |
| 15:13.25 | Shirik | I could try to argue this but I'll just say it |
| 15:13.39 | Shirik | it was an april fools joke :) We actually dump a lot of the stuff into nowhere |
| 15:13.46 | nicoli_s | thats what i figured was happening\ |
| 15:13.58 | nicoli_s | but i dont know enough about lua internals to prove it :P |
| 15:14.24 | Shirik | it looks like we're altering string.match, but actually we set up a temporary global environment, made some locals to make it look like we're still altering the original environment, but then we silently discard those locals and throw the "new" globals into /dev/null |
| 15:14.41 | Shirik | then we restore the original environment |
| 15:14.48 | Shirik | with one tiny change |
| 15:14.50 | nicoli_s | heh, very smart |
| 15:14.59 | Shirik | we hooked all of the CPU/Memory functions to claim performance improvements |
| 15:14.59 | nicoli_s | the changed fps display? |
| 15:15.03 | Shirik | and FPS yes |
| 15:18.09 | nevcairiel | you could've just put an addon up that said "haha april fools", and it would be the same |
| 15:18.17 | nevcairiel | it was totally obvious that its hoax from the code :p |
| 15:19.04 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjGrHBpfqCo&feature=player_embedded |
| 15:20.58 | sylvanaar_atwork | anyone know where i can get some free picto-people art |
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| 15:28.22 | Shirik | what do you mean it was obvious? |
| 15:28.27 | Shirik | There were no direct hooks |
| 15:28.52 | nevcairiel | so? |
| 15:28.59 | Shirik | maybe to someone that really knows what's going on, but hell even experienced programmers would see "ok, they replaced string.match and it still works..." |
| 15:29.04 | Kraps | http://www.gamepolitics.com/2010/04/01/dr-olson-brings-some-reasoning-rapelay-hysteria |
| 15:29.21 | nevcairiel | You could clearly see that you replace the performance functions with stuff thats just returning tweaked values |
| 15:30.37 | Shirik | but what about string.match, collectgarbage, etc. |
| 15:32.32 | nevcairiel | you sneak around that with using SSS vs _G in the loadstring |
| 15:33.04 | Shirik | but _G is _G |
| 15:33.11 | Shirik | and _G is SSS |
| 15:33.20 | cogwheel | RAWR |
| 15:33.30 | nevcairiel | if it actually worked, your _G.string = {} would've broken alot |
| 15:33.40 | Shirik | look at the top |
| 15:33.42 | Shirik | _G = SSS |
| 15:34.00 | nevcairiel | like loadstring cares about upvalues |
| 15:34.07 | Shirik | see YOU know that |
| 15:34.11 | Shirik | but very few people do |
| 15:34.32 | zenzelezz | I'd say the percentages it was claimed to increase was the killer |
| 15:34.41 | cogwheel | sweet... we're getting a cell repeater at work |
| 15:34.42 | zenzelezz | if you'd stuck to 25-30% it'd sound plausible |
| 15:34.44 | Shirik | That wasn't me |
| 15:34.51 | Shirik | blame our PR department |
| 15:34.57 | foxlit | "require('gzip');" |
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| 15:35.06 | nevcairiel | that one was obvious too |
| 15:35.07 | foxlit | bogus right there. |
| 15:35.16 | nevcairiel | require isnt even valid in wowlua |
| 15:35.19 | Shirik | it didn't give an error! |
| 15:35.38 | nevcairiel | yeah, because its not called |
| 15:35.58 | nevcairiel | also, sending gzip is fine, but what does the receiver do with it :d |
| 15:36.03 | Shirik | shh |
| 15:36.11 | Shirik | it just had to be not completely obvious |
| 15:36.22 | Shirik | average joe wouldn't know about these caveats |
| 15:36.37 | nevcairiel | funny how your collectgarbage script actually works, though |
| 15:36.45 | Shirik | that was the first one I wrote |
| 15:36.50 | Shirik | I got lazy after that |
| 15:36.55 | nevcairiel | except that WoW does something like that by itself, iirc |
| 15:37.02 | Shirik | it actually has a bug |
| 15:37.06 | Shirik | someone on the forums pointed it out |
| 15:37.13 | Shirik | OnUpdate passes the frame first |
| 15:37.25 | nevcairiel | heh true |
| 15:37.35 | nevcairiel | and you dont reset dt |
| 15:37.41 | Shirik | oh yeah that too |
| 15:38.19 | Shirik | But I had to make it plausible that loadstring() was necessary |
| 15:38.29 | Shirik | since that was the key to the whole puzzle |
| 15:38.54 | nevcairiel | if some dev would use that reason to use loadstring |
| 15:39.04 | nevcairiel | i would hurt him |
| 15:39.20 | Shirik | lol |
| 15:39.23 | Shirik | I said plausible |
| 15:39.32 | Shirik | not "the only way" |
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| 15:46.09 | Kraps | whats the name of a website that lets you see who owns a web address? |
| 15:46.21 | Alleidun | ripe or whois ? |
| 15:46.23 | cogwheel | !g whois |
| 15:46.23 | batbot | cogwheel: Whois.net - Domain Names <http://www.whois.net/> |
| 15:46.24 | Adys | cogwheel: g 'whois' not found |
| 15:46.39 | cogwheel | pokes Adys |
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| 15:47.00 | nevcairiel | !npc cogwheel |
| 15:47.01 | Adys | nevcairiel: Specialist Cogwheel - http://db.mmo-champion.com/c/28284/subject-name-here/ |
| 15:47.01 | Kraps | thanks |
| 15:47.12 | nevcairiel | subject-name-here? |
| 15:47.13 | Adys | cogwheel: ? |
| 15:47.15 | nevcairiel | pokes Adys |
| 15:47.28 | Adys | eh |
| 15:47.33 | Adys | i havent updated my local db |
| 15:47.44 | Adys | leftover from a test :P |
| 15:48.05 | Adys | and !g is for glyphs |
| 15:48.22 | Adys | except it prolly wont work i think i disabled it |
| 15:48.29 | nevcairiel | !g rejuvenation |
| 15:48.30 | batbot | nevcairiel: Classic Light Fixtures and Restoration Hardware by REJUVENATION <http://www.rejuvenation.com/> |
| 15:48.31 | Adys | nevcairiel: g 'rejuvenation' not found |
| 15:48.39 | Kraps | methinks cogwheel doth protest too much http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=28284#comments :P |
| 15:49.02 | Adys | nevcairiel: check out if there is a glyph of hot sex with young blonde chick |
| 15:49.15 | nevcairiel | i bet there is! |
| 15:50.36 | Adys | !g rejuvenation |
| 15:50.36 | batbot | Adys: Classic Light Fixtures and Restoration Hardware by REJUVENATION <http://www.rejuvenation.com/> |
| 15:50.37 | Adys | there |
| 15:50.39 | Adys | disabled |
| 15:57.50 | cogwheel | jnwhiteh: just saw an ad for the book on stackoverflow :) |
| 15:59.28 | cogwheel | "L2WRITE WOW ADD-ONS." |
| 15:59.35 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 15:59.38 | industrial | :p |
| 16:00.16 | cogwheel | http://cogwheel.info/upload/files/l2write.png |
| 16:00.32 | nevcairiel | i love the new cover, tuskarr <3 |
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| 16:02.55 | Fisker | hey cogwheel |
| 16:03.58 | Kraps | holy shit cog |
| 16:04.16 | Kraps | the facebook post |
| 16:05.34 | Adys | nevcairiel: i vant you to keel six mooses |
| 16:06.04 | Fisker | Hopefully by friday next week i should be GTX480'ing |
| 16:06.15 | nevcairiel | Adys: what |
| 16:06.23 | Adys | nevcairiel: you fail |
| 16:06.24 | cogwheel | Kraps: ? |
| 16:06.25 | Adys | PA |
| 16:06.34 | Fisker | btw cogwheel |
| 16:06.41 | Fisker | did i mention you were pathetic for playing wow? |
| 16:06.41 | Kraps | cogwheel: on your blog |
| 16:06.47 | cogwheel | oh lol |
| 16:07.09 | cogwheel | almost forgot i had a blog... |
| 16:07.48 | Kraps | are you still good with the husband? |
| 16:07.49 | Fisker | why did you get introduced to wow by a right-wing nutjub anyway? |
| 16:08.30 | cogwheel | Kraps: "stand by your man" works the other way too -_- |
| 16:08.42 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 16:08.45 | cogwheel | can't say i really blame him... |
| 16:08.51 | Fisker | or no poonani |
| 16:08.52 | Fisker | snap |
| 16:14.59 | jnwhiteh | cogwheel: lol |
| 16:16.12 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 16:16.15 | Fisker | stares |
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| 16:21.00 | Kraps | Fisker: the cellphone is from the other universe, i knew it! |
| 16:23.29 | Fisker | indeed |
| 16:28.50 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/04/02/funny-pictures-ur-liddul-balloons/ |
| 16:32.27 | Fisker | one thing i wonder about though Kraps |
| 16:32.38 | Fisker | how did they find out where the designer of the mobile phone lived? |
| 16:32.46 | Kraps | lawl |
| 16:32.59 | Fisker | also how did they find out what parts such as radios, etc. were made of? |
| 16:33.08 | Fisker | Likely the designer would be using premade chips |
| 16:33.16 | Fisker | so they'd have to find out how those chips were made as well |
| 16:33.17 | Fisker | ;o |
| 16:33.26 | Fisker | seems bit of a hassle to do |
| 16:36.31 | Kraps | theres only 2 universes in fringe? |
| 16:36.58 | Lopeppeppy | Not necessarily. |
| 16:37.14 | Lopeppeppy | There are two directly involved in plot, but it has been acknowledged that there are probably more/other. |
| 16:39.19 | Lunessa | Interesting. Google search results page has changed, and now shows what geo-location you searched form. |
| 16:39.21 | Lunessa | from. |
| 16:39.26 | Fisker | old Lunessa |
| 16:39.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Only if you enable it |
| 16:39.42 | Lunessa | sbo: I just noticed it this morning. |
| 16:39.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Search movies:<zip code here> <movie name here> |
| 16:40.00 | Fisker | been there for a few weeks actually |
| 16:40.04 | ScytheBlade1 | and it'll remember your location |
| 16:41.16 | Fisker | my geolocation sucks |
| 16:41.24 | Lunessa | It appears to be |
| 16:41.41 | Lunessa | "auto-detecting" so using ip blocks for known locations. |
| 16:41.45 | Fisker | it's set like ~60 miles from here |
| 16:45.19 | Kraps | i love how the people on the show are "hey we found a way to look into an alternate universe" "oh cool. whats for dinner?" |
| 16:46.08 | Fisker | yeah atleast have dinner at the window |
| 16:46.22 | Pneumatus | zygor bought tourguide? :o |
| 16:46.47 | industrial | dun dun DUN |
| 16:46.55 | Fisker | zygor? |
| 16:47.10 | Pneumatus | paid levelling guide |
| 16:51.07 | Gnarfoz | Pneumatus: a while ago ;) |
| 16:51.16 | Pneumatus | Gnarfoz: so it appears |
| 16:58.42 | Lunessa | SCCM - Making my life a lot easier today. |
| 17:01.56 | ckknight | Pneumatus: yea, it's pretty lame |
| 17:02.02 | ckknight | it makes me want to write a TourGuide clone |
| 17:02.03 | ckknight | :P |
| 17:02.59 | nevcairiel | the tourguide git repo is back, fwiw |
| 17:03.08 | nevcairiel | i pulled updates from it again :D |
| 17:05.10 | ckknight | ah, cool |
| 17:05.12 | ckknight | on github? |
| 17:05.25 | Lunessa | cogwheel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGWiTvYZR_w |
| 17:07.19 | Kraps | holy shit |
| 17:07.23 | Fisker | i thought paying for addons were against the addon rules? |
| 17:07.59 | Fisker | imma suing tekkub for using my data without paying royalties |
| 17:08.13 | Fisker | rages, panics, etc. |
| 17:09.08 | Kraps | so the whole tone of the show has changed forever |
| 17:09.59 | Fisker | wat? |
| 17:10.05 | Fisker | btw SG:U tonight as wel l |
| 17:10.07 | Fisker | well* |
| 17:10.20 | Kraps | how will "fake" peter be resolved? |
| 17:10.33 | Kraps | "other" peter rather |
| 17:12.15 | Fisker | idk |
| 17:12.19 | Fisker | but how is this news? |
| 17:12.22 | NeoTron | Kraps: what show? |
| 17:12.25 | Fisker | Fringe |
| 17:12.34 | NeoTron | nothing I've watche |
| 17:13.26 | Kraps | because everything eles from now on will be irrelevent |
| 17:13.27 | Fisker | very nice show |
| 17:13.45 | Fisker | how will it be irrelephant? |
| 17:14.20 | nevcairiel | of course its irrelephant, or where are elephants involved? |
| 17:14.26 | Lunessa | SG:U - could have been amazing, but it turns into just another soap opera with sci-fi widgets. |
| 17:14.33 | Fisker | sofar! |
| 17:15.19 | Fisker | They've made a couple of decent episodes already |
| 17:15.30 | Fisker | so imma trusting them when they say the good thing comes up later |
| 17:15.48 | nevcairiel | nothing will ever top SG:1 in its prime time! |
| 17:16.27 | industrial | nevcairiel: the orei -> fail -> sg1 down the drain |
| 17:16.31 | industrial | imho |
| 17:16.42 | nevcairiel | see, thats why i said prime time |
| 17:17.01 | nevcairiel | back when they were fighting apophis, and anubis too |
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| 17:19.53 | Lunessa | Actually, SG:1 didn't really work for me either. I felt like the inspiring movie could have used some work too, and that I'd have taken the story in a different direction. Not that there weren't good bits, I just didn't think it was all that great. It fell into the "widget/planet of the week" trap fairly quickly. |
| 17:21.21 | nevcairiel | it had half-seasons where it was only that |
| 17:21.30 | nevcairiel | but nearly all series are like that |
| 17:21.43 | nevcairiel | just very few series are purely story |
| 17:21.54 | nevcairiel | <3 babylon5 for that |
| 17:23.01 | Lunessa | I never really watched B5. It had it's run while I was in a "I never watch TV" phase. |
| 17:23.24 | nevcairiel | i never watch tv on tv |
| 17:23.51 | nevcairiel | mostly because i cant get US tv here, and dubbed tv shows are evil, also 2 years late |
| 17:24.06 | nevcairiel | i can get imported US dvds before it airs on tv here |
| 17:25.30 | Lunessa | I dislike dubbed shows as well. I prefer to watch with subtitles and original voices. This means my animae exposure has been limited to only the stuff I can find with quality sub-titles. But Netflix, Hulu and DVD rentals have let me catch up on stuff I've discovered I like. :) |
| 17:25.50 | nevcairiel | I wouldnt watch something i dont understand |
| 17:25.51 | nevcairiel | reading sucks |
| 17:25.51 | Lunessa | And I rather like a lot of cheesy BBC stuff. |
| 17:26.02 | Fisker | they should make an itunes for the world that doesn't suck |
| 17:26.22 | Lunessa | nevcairiel: I read quickly. And well done subtitles display for long enough that it's not an issue for me. :) |
| 17:26.22 | nevcairiel | hulu said they want to expand to other countrys |
| 17:26.33 | nevcairiel | oh reading speed is not the issue |
| 17:26.35 | nevcairiel | its just annoying |
| 17:26.43 | Lunessa | *nod* |
| 17:27.01 | nevcairiel | i found a movie with a "fan dub" once |
| 17:27.06 | nevcairiel | now that was evil |
| 17:27.19 | nevcairiel | why would people do that |
| 17:27.56 | Lunessa | Also, I generally get bored with stuff which is mostly just fight scenes - like say, DragonBall or Naruto - which all seem stupidly popular here. |
| 17:28.27 | nevcairiel | dragonball is like a kids show, i liked it when i was young, now its just silly :D |
| 17:29.52 | Lunessa | A friend of mine really loves it. Enough that he wrote an RPG for it. But I never got into it. |
| 17:31.28 | nicoli_s | i loved the shit out of dragonball when i was a kid, but nowadays, anime like cowboy bebop, or ghost in the shell is what i like |
| 17:31.36 | nicoli_s | or anything by miyazaki |
| 17:31.51 | nevcairiel | i dont watch any anime anymore |
| 17:33.06 | Kraps | so what is good anime? |
| 17:33.18 | Lopeppeppy | La Blue Girl. |
| 17:33.27 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 17:33.43 | nicoli_s | Lopeppeppy must watch animes alone... |
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| 17:33.58 | nicoli_s | also anime and hentai arent really interchangable :P |
| 17:34.04 | Lopeppeppy | Why would I watch that alone? *grin* |
| 17:34.09 | Lopeppeppy | I was teasing, nicoli. :) |
| 17:34.42 | cbreak | "Summer Wars" |
| 17:35.36 | cbreak | "Scraped Princess" |
| 17:37.20 | cbreak | "Zero no Tsukaima" |
| 17:37.58 | cbreak | "Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei" |
| 17:40.19 | Lunessa | Vampire Princess Miyu. |
| 17:41.14 | Lunessa | This woman on the phone is rude and conceding and pushy and demanding. And she insists that I listen to her type an email |
| 17:42.58 | Cairenn | hugs Lunessa |
| 17:43.22 | Lunessa | She's like "I teach ART. I am an ARTIST! I don't speak technology!" |
| 17:43.42 | nevcairiel | Technology is like an art |
| 17:43.48 | Cairenn | how rude? |
| 17:44.15 | Lunessa | Like every time I ask her a question, she says "I'm getting to that, just wait." |
| 17:44.33 | Lunessa | And "Can you hurry this up? I have to go to lunch in a few minutes." |
| 17:44.38 | Cairenn | I don't know about where you work, Lunessa, but I know that (most) companies (at least in Canada) tell their employees that they don't have to take verbal abuse. |
| 17:44.54 | NeoTron | Lain |
| 17:45.07 | nevcairiel | I wouldnt call that verbal abuse yet |
| 17:45.13 | Cairenn | nope, that's why I asked |
| 17:45.38 | Lunessa | Cairenn: I got my first reprimand in 5 years yesterday - for being "rude and unprofessional" for telling someone JUST like this woman that I wouldn't help her with her non-univerisity related tech issue. |
| 17:45.50 | Cairenn | =/ |
| 17:46.14 | Lunessa | So I have to suck it up and be even more polite than I am normally inclined to be. |
| 17:46.32 | kneeki | Is there a built in API function to determine the players highest spell crit chance? |
| 17:47.35 | nevcairiel | highest? |
| 17:47.38 | nevcairiel | you only have one |
| 17:47.44 | kneeki | Well |
| 17:47.54 | foxlit | default ui splits display by school |
| 17:48.12 | kneeki | You don't really, back in the day you could adjust say, yoru shadow chance to crit, and not holy |
| 17:48.17 | cbreak | some spell have higher-than-normal chance |
| 17:48.22 | cbreak | and it also depends on your target |
| 17:48.27 | Shadowed | Lunessa what, how is that rude? |
| 17:48.32 | nevcairiel | well only if you have talents that give special crit |
| 17:48.36 | Shadowed | they should be lucky you didn't tell her to reformat |
| 17:49.05 | Lunessa | Shadowed: Apparently my refusal to assist her was "unprofessional" and she complained to the director. |
| 17:49.21 | Cairenn | >< |
| 17:49.28 | Shadowed | Next time tell her to reformat, and say it was required due to a virus |
| 17:49.33 | Shadowed | they can't prove you wrong, neither can she! |
| 17:49.40 | Lunessa | So, since the world operated on politics, to appease her, I get a reprimand. |
| 17:49.43 | nevcairiel | just confuse people with technobable |
| 17:50.05 | Cairenn | and did you explain that what she wanted help with had nothing to do with a non-uni problem? |
| 17:50.08 | Kraps | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=23425586290&sid=1#10 |
| 17:50.44 | Cairenn | your supervisor could have just said "yeah yeah, I'll deal with it" to appease, then dropped it |
| 17:50.56 | Cairenn | she'd never have known :p |
| 17:51.33 | Lunessa | I did. And I was incredibly busy at the time she was insisting on getting this help. It doesn't matter. The director decided to tell my boss that I was due a reprimand for unprofessional behavior. So, now I get a fourth "talking to" on the same issue. I'm pretty angry about it. |
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| 17:52.09 | Cairenn | what, they're still bitching you out about it? |
| 17:52.11 | Cairenn | that's stupid |
| 17:52.11 | nevcairiel | working in customer support is one of my nightmares, hope i never end up there :d |
| 17:52.21 | Lunessa | So when that lady calls (and she calls EVERY DAY) I give her the barest minimum of support. |
| 17:52.38 | Shadowed | that's idiotic |
| 17:53.19 | Lunessa | Cairenn: My boss went out of town last night. She sent me the e-mail the director sent her and told me "we'd have a chat" on Monday. Good thing I'm going out of town this weekend for a break. |
| 17:53.30 | Cairenn | oy |
| 17:53.31 | Cairenn | hug |
| 17:53.52 | Lunessa | Meh, I didn't mean to turn the channel into a bitch-fest. |
| 17:53.58 | Cairenn | bah |
| 17:54.19 | Cairenn | we all do from time to time, it's a place to blow off steam with others who can understand, nothing wrong with that :) |
| 17:54.25 | Shadowed | and you're right anyway |
| 17:54.26 | Shadowed | screw her |
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| 17:54.30 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 17:54.41 | foxlit | Fountain Goldfish. |
| 17:54.42 | foxlit | :( |
| 17:54.48 | Fisker | whats up? |
| 17:54.56 | nevcairiel | If the fountain gives you goldfish, have a bbq! |
| 17:55.04 | Lunessa | They are tasty and sell for a few silver. |
| 17:55.20 | Lopeppeppy | huggles Lunessa. |
| 17:55.28 | Lopeppeppy | thinks sheeple suck mightily. |
| 17:55.40 | Lopeppeppy | One actively tried to get me fired last year, Lunessa. They all should burn in hell. |
| 17:55.53 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: *huggles* |
| 17:56.08 | Shadowed | what |
| 17:56.14 | Shadowed | Lopeppeppy cause you didn't give them tech support? |
| 17:56.17 | Lopeppeppy | sings the Burn in Hell song. |
| 17:56.18 | Lunessa | I'm going to party with Malreth this weekend in Austin. |
| 17:57.22 | Cairenn | cool |
| 17:57.45 | Lopeppeppy | Shadowed, very yup. Our tech could not deliver what she wanted, it was a physical incapability. |
| 17:57.58 | Lopeppeppy | Give him a big sloppy kiss from me, Lunessa! |
| 17:58.14 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: No. But I might kiss his wife and/or mistresses. ;) |
| 17:58.16 | Shadowed | people are stupid :( |
| 17:58.46 | Lopeppeppy | Okay. I don't know them, but they are deserving of kisses. Give him a beer from me instead? |
| 17:59.06 | Lopeppeppy | Shadowed, very stupid. Sheeple are stupid by default, it's axiomatic. |
| 17:59.09 | Lunessa | Yes. Beer, vodka, whiskey. |
| 17:59.10 | Shadowed | true |
| 17:59.17 | Shadowed | I still say make them reformat and lie out your ass |
| 17:59.19 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh. Vodka. |
| 17:59.20 | Fisker | that reminds me |
| 17:59.22 | Lopeppeppy | Do want. |
| 17:59.25 | Lopeppeppy | Cannot has. |
| 17:59.32 | Fisker | Someone here wanted to have their keyboard fixed |
| 17:59.43 | Fisker | and they did some repairing and troubleshooting but it never worked |
| 17:59.49 | Fisker | Then he told him to stick it up their asses |
| 17:59.54 | Fisker | they took it as "throw it out" |
| 18:00.00 | Fisker | then he complained to them for throwing it out |
| 18:00.01 | Fisker | durr |
| 18:00.22 | Torhal | Fisker: You should sell automobiles. |
| 18:00.28 | Fisker | btw you shouldn't be so rude Lunessa |
| 18:00.48 | Lunessa | Fisker: I can be rude to you with impunity. |
| 18:02.07 | Lopeppeppy | has contracted the June Cleaver virus. |
| 18:03.28 | Shadowed | For a nominal fee, I can ban Fisker |
| 18:03.44 | Torhal | Shadowed: Half a cookie okay with you? |
| 18:03.54 | Shadowed | make it brownies |
| 18:03.57 | Shadowed | I hear Lopeppeppy makes good ones |
| 18:03.59 | Torhal | Drat! |
| 18:05.10 | Lunessa | bribes Shadowed with brownies, biscotti, and green tea. |
| 18:05.18 | Shadowed | ew green tea |
| 18:05.18 | Lopeppeppy | I make exceptionally scrumptious brownies! Traditional or lowfat, take your pick. |
| 18:05.25 | Shadowed | ew lowfat! |
| 18:05.37 | Kraps | http://www.dialbforblog.com/archives/365/goddamn_batman.gif |
| 18:05.53 | Lopeppeppy | the lowfat ones wind up as dark chocolate pumpkin brownies, they're kinda good. |
| 18:06.16 | Shadowed | traditional still sounds more delicious :P |
| 18:07.40 | Fisker | for a nominal fee i'll leave on my own |
| 18:08.14 | Fisker | my paypal is thomas.larsen@gmail.com |
| 18:08.15 | Fisker | :3 |
| 18:08.17 | Shadowed | for a nominal fee below your nominal fee |
| 18:08.27 | Fisker | ps. results not guaranteed |
| 18:09.45 | Lunessa | Haha. Fisker discovered the repeatable scam. |
| 18:09.52 | Shadowed | don't worry |
| 18:10.05 | Shadowed | I also double as a contact arbiter |
| 18:10.16 | Shadowed | s/contact/contract/ |
| 18:10.19 | foxlit | Hm, one gold coin to go. |
| 18:10.33 | Lunessa | foxlit: Going for "Salty"? |
| 18:10.46 | foxlit | Nah. |
| 18:10.54 | Lopeppeppy | Shadowed is a demon |
| 18:10.55 | foxlit | That would require winning the fishing contests, which are stupid. |
| 18:11.08 | Shadowed | Lopeppeppy I prefer evil mastermind |
| 18:11.17 | Lunessa | foxlit: The part that annoys me is catching the named fish in both capitals. |
| 18:11.32 | foxlit | I think you can glitch the Org one. |
| 18:11.47 | Lunessa | Nah, they fixed that. |
| 18:11.47 | Shadowed | I believe they fixed that? |
| 18:11.58 | Lunessa | Can't fish anything while in the instanced Org. |
| 18:11.59 | foxlit | Last time I checked was a year ago |
| 18:12.11 | foxlit | besides, carebear server. |
| 18:17.02 | cog|work | http://www.neatorama.com/2010/03/14/chook-the-lyrebird/ |
| 18:21.16 | cog|work | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOFy8QkNWWs >< |
| 18:22.42 | Fisker | http://www.xfire.com/forums/182686/topic/1791947/ <-these kind of people shouldn't exist |
| 18:22.59 | *** join/#wowuidev Kraps (~chatzilla@ool-44c20717.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 18:23.00 | Fisker | meh Lunessa |
| 18:23.03 | Fisker | i could get a lot of money |
| 18:23.21 | Fisker | Someone thought their e-mail was the same as mine |
| 18:23.45 | Lunessa | dies. |
| 18:23.51 | Fisker | well actually he thought it was thomaslarsen@gmail.com (mine is thomas.larsen@gmail.com but for google they send it both places) |
| 18:24.02 | Fisker | i just got an email from his online banking system a few days ago |
| 18:24.10 | Lunessa | I seriously just had a call where the power was out in an area and they couldn't figure out why the computer wouldn't work. |
| 18:24.10 | Fisker | should i recover the password? ;3 |
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| 18:25.01 | Fisker | i remember something similar, funny part was that it was in the middle of the winter, so kinda fail not to notice |
| 18:25.10 | Fisker | Got a call, they said their computers were broke |
| 18:25.30 | Kraps | Lunessa: computers run on space gas last i heard |
| 18:25.35 | Fisker | so i got down there and wondered why everyone was outside the room |
| 18:25.39 | Fisker | inside it was pitch black |
| 18:25.57 | Fisker | was because the breaker circuit had triggered |
| 18:26.04 | Cairenn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XccWmHnDbF8 |
| 18:26.11 | Fisker | one switch later |
| 18:26.13 | Fisker | tada ;( |
| 18:26.21 | Lunessa | To be fair, they only lost power to one circuit - but they didn't notice that all the lamps along that wall were out too? |
| 18:27.31 | Lopeppeppy | Nope, sheeple have lost the ability to troubleshoot. |
| 18:28.58 | Kraps | theres a "let me wowhead that for you" O_o |
| 18:30.23 | Fisker | well i double as a protoss arbiter Shadowed |
| 18:31.24 | Lunessa | OM NOM NOM NOM - Girl Scout Cookies - Thin Mints just delivered. |
| 18:34.18 | Fisker | cog|work |
| 18:40.04 | cog|work | Cairenn: our girl cat does that when you scratch her happy but spot while she's eating |
| 18:40.18 | Cairenn | hehehehe |
| 18:40.30 | cog|work | but while she's doing it she goes absolutely ravenous and gobbles as much food into her mouth as possible |
| 18:40.55 | cog|work | happy butt* spot |
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| 18:44.49 | KarlKFI | glad your girl cat does that, cause i read girl scount |
| 18:44.54 | KarlKFI | scout* |
| 18:45.01 | KarlKFI | musta been the cookie noms |
| 18:45.12 | Lunessa | nom nom nom |
| 18:45.39 | KarlKFI | and i was pretty syre you weren't scratching the happy butt spot of your girl scout |
| 18:45.43 | KarlKFI | sure* |
| 18:46.21 | cog|work | lulz |
| 18:46.27 | cralor | My personal favorites are the Caramel Delights and the Peanut Butter Patties... yummm |
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| 18:47.25 | KarlKFI | samoas and tagalongs? |
| 18:55.07 | Lunessa | mmmm the cookies are all good. Too bad they come with a built-in guilt-trip. |
| 18:55.31 | Dagmar | So you can pick up more thin mints while youre out on that |
| 18:55.40 | Dagmar | I dont' see a problem |
| 19:00.34 | Lunessa | lol |
| 19:02.43 | Fisker | A modern bot runs WoW in a separate shell. <-can anyone decipher this? |
| 19:02.50 | Fisker | Because where i come from that is just pure gibberish |
| 19:03.33 | Fisker | what about you Adys? |
| 19:03.38 | Fisker | Can you make any sense of it? :o |
| 19:04.38 | industrial | Fisker: probably "A modern bot runs wow in a graphicless client." :p |
| 19:04.50 | Fisker | :P |
| 19:05.15 | Fisker | so i guess shell is the same in linux as in windows then basically |
| 19:05.24 | Fisker | i.e. an interface for your operating system i.e. explorer |
| 19:05.30 | Fisker | or in linux something like bash |
| 19:05.48 | industrial | Fisker: why so into botting? |
| 19:05.50 | cog|work | explorer is considered windows' shell |
| 19:07.06 | cog|work | hands of solitare that are mathematically impossible to win shouldn't be counted as a loss -_- |
| 19:08.10 | *** join/#wowuidev Kalroth (kalroth@3e6baecb.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 19:10.30 | Fisker | industrial the usual "omg blizzard doesn't care about botting and hackers" |
| 19:12.04 | Shirik | is 20k feet in the air! |
| 19:13.29 | Lopeppeppy | Rawr? |
| 19:17.21 | Lunessa | cog|work: Don't try to play in vegas then. |
| 19:18.27 | Lopeppeppy | Where are you headed, Shirik? |
| 19:18.29 | Dagmar | cog: IIRC there used to be a hidden bit that made it only show you soluble hands |
| 19:18.35 | Dagmar | er solvable |
| 19:18.41 | Shirik | I booked a secret flight to see my grandparents this weekend |
| 19:18.53 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 19:18.53 | Shirik | only my aunts and parents know |
| 19:18.58 | Fisker | i just ran my bot in another shell |
| 19:19.14 | Fisker | now warden can't find it |
| 19:19.18 | Lunessa | Shirik: and now US! |
| 19:19.24 | Shirik | .. |
| 19:19.29 | Shirik | well yes |
| 19:19.31 | Lopeppeppy | I won't tell! |
| 19:19.41 | Shirik | :) |
| 19:19.52 | Fisker | you can't stop me Shirik |
| 19:19.59 | Fisker | i'm also assuming direct control in another shell |
| 19:20.08 | Shirik | But you know what's scary |
| 19:20.29 | Fisker | that i'm assuming control? |
| 19:20.38 | Shirik | The thought that I am 20k feet in the air right now, controlled by something I made |
| 19:20.45 | Shirik | Granted with thousands of other people, but still |
| 19:20.53 | Shirik | Well I guess |
| 19:20.59 | Shirik | not this particular plane |
| 19:21.02 | Shirik | but I COULD have been |
| 19:21.19 | Shirik | maybe the next model to come out >.> |
| 19:21.26 | Dagmar | Yes, now is the time to be having deep-seated worries about bounds-checking. |
| 19:21.31 | Shirik | lol |
| 19:21.35 | Dagmar | There is no debugger for "plummeting 20k feet" |
| 19:21.40 | Fisker | EDI i'm assuming direct control |
| 19:21.56 | Shirik | This is a 717 though, I'm pretty sure this thing was made before I was in high school even ._. |
| 19:22.30 | cbreak | gravity should fix it eventually |
| 19:22.39 | Shirik | ~lart cbreak |
| 19:22.40 | purl | throws a AN/M-8 smoke grenade at cbreak |
| 19:22.51 | Lopeppeppy | I'll be proud to fly in a plane you programmed, Shirik. |
| 19:23.04 | Shirik | well I don't work on jets |
| 19:23.19 | Fisker | Valkyrie Trailer [2008] |
| 19:23.19 | Fisker | 1 year ago |
| 19:23.19 | Fisker | 586,355 views |
| 19:23.19 | Fisker | Because you watched |
| 19:23.19 | Fisker | Yes Man - Trailer... |
| 19:23.20 | Fisker | i see |
| 19:23.23 | Shirik | it just so happens that some of the stuff I developed last year was reworked into Boeing's core library so |
| 19:23.33 | Fisker | i think i get it |
| 19:23.33 | Shirik | it just "happened" to get there |
| 19:23.40 | Fisker | *raises right arm* |
| 19:23.41 | Shadowed | so if I get on an airplane and it crashes |
| 19:23.41 | Fisker | "Ja!" |
| 19:23.42 | Shadowed | I should haunt you |
| 19:23.48 | Shirik | not my fault! |
| 19:23.55 | Shirik | If an unmanned aircraft flies into you, then you can haunt me |
| 19:24.06 | Shirik | if a jet crashes, blame the guys that did poor refactoring |
| 19:24.39 | cbreak | as long as it's not written in Visual Basic or C#... |
| 19:24.46 | Shirik | lol no, the FAA won't approve that |
| 19:24.51 | Shadowed | written in brainfuck |
| 19:24.53 | Shirik | C, C++, or Ada only |
| 19:25.01 | Shirik | You know where my loyalties lie |
| 19:25.05 | Shirik | though I'm still trying to learn Ada |
| 19:25.21 | Lopeppeppy | I will stubbornly hold onto my fantasty of being in a Shirik-run aircraft!!! |
| 19:25.27 | Shirik | pets Lopeppeppy |
| 19:25.53 | Shirik | I actually have a 50% crash rate on any plane I fly |
| 19:26.06 | Shirik | fortunately, all 2 of my flights were simulations |
| 19:26.10 | Shadowed | I'm glad I don't plan on flying in an unmanned aircraft! |
| 19:26.20 | Shirik | and the first one crashed because I refused to abide by the rules of the simulation |
| 19:26.30 | Dagmar | That's what bubk privates are for |
| 19:26.32 | Shadowed | yea simulation rules are a bitch |
| 19:26.35 | Dagmar | s/bubk/buck/; |
| 19:26.39 | Shirik | I didn't want to wait 30 minutes for it to land, so I just overrode the safeties on the aircraft and told it to do a nosedive |
| 19:26.43 | Shadowed | haha |
| 19:26.52 | Shirik | apparently the autopilot is not very good at correcting that after I turned it off |
| 19:27.20 | Shirik | It's annoying though |
| 19:27.37 | Shirik | To test a capture, you have to do the entire preflight, takeoff, turnaround, and landing |
| 19:27.43 | Shirik | takes like an hour for one test |
| 19:27.50 | Shirik | and god help you if it's wrong |
| 19:28.01 | Arrowmaster | just remember to buzz the virtual flight tower every flight |
| 19:28.24 | Shirik | well again I do unmanned aircraft, there is no tower :P |
| 19:28.32 | Shirik | they don't trust us enough to let us go into public airspace |
| 19:28.55 | Dagmar | This might have something to do with one's willingness to override safeties |
| 19:30.01 | Shadowed | ^ |
| 19:30.02 | Shirik | It was a simulation! |
| 19:30.09 | Shirik | I wouldn't do that in a real flight -_- |
| 19:30.14 | Shadowed | uh huh |
| 19:30.19 | Shadowed | The simulation disagrees |
| 19:30.20 | Shirik | I'm not even sure you can in a real flight |
| 19:31.11 | Shirik | When we're simulating we have direct control over simulation properties, that's where I alter it |
| 19:31.27 | Shirik | like how much fuel we have, etc. |
| 19:31.42 | Shirik | obviously changing the amount of fuel makes little sense in a a real flight |
| 19:31.51 | ZorbaTHut | shirik, you don't have some kind of "decouple from realtime" switch? |
| 19:31.53 | Shadowed | Maybe you should try in a real flight and see if you can turn it off |
| 19:32.11 | Shirik | ZorbaTHut: Nope! I'm also not even sure how possible that would be |
| 19:32.12 | cog|work | http://code.google.com/p/quake2-gwt-port/ |
| 19:32.17 | ZorbaTHut | dang, that sucks |
| 19:32.25 | Shirik | That's not my team so I don't know how overworked the simulation is, but I know there's a LOT of computation power required |
| 19:32.27 | ZorbaTHut | on my last big project I did a ton of fuzz testing at, like, 20x realtime. it was pretty sweet |
| 19:32.49 | ZorbaTHut | run overnight, there's a solid week of gametime testing |
| 19:32.57 | Shirik | oh now that I think about it |
| 19:33.04 | Shirik | it would make no sense to run at anything other than realtime |
| 19:33.07 | Shirik | that's why it's not possible |
| 19:33.12 | ZorbaTHut | why not? |
| 19:33.16 | Shirik | Because we hook up to hardware components during the simulation |
| 19:33.21 | Shirik | like servos, etc. |
| 19:33.24 | ZorbaTHut | ah, yeah, that makes it quite a bit tougher |
| 19:33.53 | Kalroth | hey Shadowed you should look into http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Announcing-APDB-The-Worlds-Fastest-Database.aspx for EA! |
| 19:33.57 | Shirik | generally though unit tests catch most of the problems so it's not a big deal |
| 19:33.59 | ZorbaTHut | although from my obviously-not-particularly-knowledgable perspective it'd seem like there would be some use in a pure-software version that could run at super-fast-forward, just for fuzz testing purposes |
| 19:34.03 | batrick | http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5841 |
| 19:34.04 | Shadowed | die Kalroth |
| 19:34.11 | Kalroth | :( |
| 19:34.23 | Shirik | yeah I agree with you |
| 19:34.31 | Shirik | just I don't know how much work that would be :) |
| 19:34.37 | ZorbaTHut | fair 'nuff :) |
| 19:34.38 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/ideal_life.jpg |
| 19:34.56 | ZorbaTHut | and of course if you're eating 90% of the CPU constantly, you wouldn't have a lot of fast-forward capability |
| 19:35.05 | Shirik | anything would be good |
| 19:35.14 | Shirik | I remember one time we had this bug that wouldn't be caught until 8 hours passed |
| 19:35.34 | Shirik | Some problem with our DDS, I don't know it's not my team |
| 19:35.54 | Shirik | but I remember them complaining about how they would change one thing then have to just leave it running forever to se if it was fixed |
| 19:36.08 | ZorbaTHut | ugh |
| 19:36.09 | cbreak | apparently windows 95 crashed after 49.5 days |
| 19:36.14 | Kalroth | yeah |
| 19:36.25 | ZorbaTHut | cbreak, yeah, overflow in the time counter |
| 19:36.47 | ZorbaTHut | a lot of linux programs used to have similar issues at 495 days (they used centiseconds, windows used milliseconds) |
| 19:36.51 | Lunessa | Cairenn: http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/04/02/funny-pictures-kittehs-vs-the-easter-egg/ |
| 19:37.24 | Cairenn | heheheh |
| 19:37.46 | Shirik | Warning: This server has been up for 494 days. Tomorrow this server will reset to ensure you are not exceeding your 5 nines reliability quota |
| 19:38.00 | Shirik | easy fix |
| 19:38.01 | Kalroth | Shirik: That's called a Windows Update. |
| 19:38.03 | Shirik | it's not a bug |
| 19:38.05 | Shirik | it's a feature |
| 19:38.47 | Shirik | hahaha I remember our CEO once said to someone when we were demonstrating our aircraft and the ailerons broke off |
| 19:38.57 | Shirik | he says "Oh that's a feature!" |
| 19:39.07 | Shirik | They break off at capture if the stress is too high |
| 19:39.08 | batrick | Shirik: read that RFC i linked |
| 19:39.15 | Shirik | yes that's TRUE, but they're not supposed to break off... |
| 19:39.26 | Shirik | batrick: where? |
| 19:39.34 | batrick | 15:34:03 < batrick> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5841 |
| 19:39.43 | Shirik | nm |
| 19:39.43 | Shirik | ya |
| 19:40.58 | Shirik | nice batrick |
| 19:41.01 | Fisker | lua> "Assuming Direct Control" |
| 19:41.02 | Shirik | though not one of their better ones |
| 19:41.09 | lua_bot | Fisker: Assuming Direct Control |
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| 19:45.39 | cog|work | http://www.cracked.com/article_18461_5-creepy-ways-video-games-are-trying-to-get-you-addicted.html |
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| 19:47.42 | Fisker | slaps p3lim around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:47.44 | Fisker | slaps cog|work around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:50.10 | batrick | ~whalenuke Fisker |
| 19:50.11 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Fisker with his mind powers. |
| 19:50.58 | cog|work | Fisker |
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| 19:51.08 | amro | owned |
| 19:51.10 | amro | hard |
| 19:51.42 | batrick | who's EDI? |
| 19:52.01 | amro | shiibot 2.0 |
| 19:52.11 | batrick | what's it stand for |
| 19:52.46 | Fisker | fail |
| 19:52.47 | Cairenn | truth and justice for all! |
| 19:53.05 | Zyn | Enhanced Defense Intelligence |
| 19:53.26 | Zyn | http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/EDI |
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| 20:00.00 | industrial | <Poo Fighters> |
| 20:00.01 | industrial | -_- |
| 20:00.26 | industrial | how can you even dare to walk around with such a retarded name above your head :p |
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| 20:06.27 | zenzelezz | industrial: it's not so different from declaring yourself an Amurrrican in Europe |
| 20:06.44 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 20:06.47 | Fisker | fix cog|work |
| 20:06.51 | Fisker | i love him |
| 20:07.11 | Shirik | I like how Cairenn|afk left him banned |
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| 20:09.07 | cog|work | Shirik: indeed :) |
| 20:09.21 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 20:09.27 | cog|work | also being punished for trolling fisker is no manner of justice I'm familiar with... |
| 20:09.30 | Fisker | what if i used another shell? |
| 20:09.30 | cog|work | :> |
| 20:09.42 | industrial | Fisker: why so bi-curious? |
| 20:10.20 | mikma | lets put a gay on that face |
| 20:10.21 | Shirik | cog|work: Trolling a troll is still trolling |
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| 20:11.23 | mikma | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1257850/Super-sized-mother-determined-worlds-fattest-woman-years.html |
| 20:11.27 | mikma | healthy |
| 20:13.08 | cog|work | 43st reminded me of 13rd until i realized it was UK |
| 20:13.28 | cog|work | !g 43st in lbs |
| 20:13.29 | batbot | cog|work: 43 stone equals how many pounds - True Knowledge <http://www.trueknowledge.com/q/43_stone_equals_how_many_pounds> |
| 20:13.39 | cog|work | lua> 43*14 |
| 20:13.41 | lua_bot | cog|work: 602 |
| 20:13.58 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 20:14.17 | Fisker | he's using another shell to troll |
| 20:14.20 | Fisker | so you can't detect it |
| 20:14.20 | cog|work | google doesn't like the abbreviation st apparently |
| 20:14.29 | cog|work | !g 43 stone in lbs |
| 20:14.29 | batbot | cog|work: 43 stones in pounds - True Knowledge <http://www.trueknowledge.com/q/43_stones_in_pounds> |
| 20:14.44 | cog|work | batbot doesn't like google's calculator results apparently |
| 20:15.00 | Fisker | batbot likes nothing |
| 20:15.08 | mikma | !g the dick |
| 20:15.09 | batbot | mikma: The DICK WHITTINGTON TAVERN <http://www.thedick.com.au/> |
| 20:17.36 | cog|work | eeeenteresting.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klondike_(solitaire)#Odds_of_winning |
| 20:17.39 | cog|work | However, the theoretical odds of winning a standard game of non-Thoughtful Klondike are currently unknown. It has been said that the inability for theoreticians to calculate these odds is "one of the embarrassments of applied mathematics". |
| 20:21.43 | cbreak | burn cards and declare odds of winning 0. |
| 20:30.14 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjGrHBpfqCo&feature=player_embedded |
| 20:34.40 | Shirik | Fisker, I'm assuming direct control |
| 20:34.43 | Fisker | cog|work |
| 20:34.50 | Fisker | i think it's because they run klondike in another shell |
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| 20:49.09 | Fisker | http://i.imgur.com/9C6Nx.jpg |
| 20:52.13 | Lunessa | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=24038548661&sid=1 - I was rude? /boggle. |
| 20:52.35 | ScytheBlade1 | wtf |
| 20:54.29 | Seerah | Lunessa: I don't think you were rude |
| 20:55.02 | Lunessa | Me either. People are hardly worth helping lately, it seems. |
| 20:56.54 | Fisker | you were Lunessa |
| 20:57.06 | cog|work | http://www.flickr.com/photos/aparejador/4396745701/ <- i'm thinking of taking up needlepoint to make one of these |
| 20:57.07 | Fisker | you're probably the rudest person i know |
| 20:57.20 | Fisker | well maybe except when someone makes an incoherent TL;DR post |
| 20:57.26 | Lunessa | Fisker: Is the part where I post FUUUUUUUUUU ? |
| 20:57.28 | Fisker | i usually just respond with /cancelsub |
| 20:59.07 | cog|work | Lunessa: fixed |
| 21:01.04 | Lunessa | cog|work: lawl |
| 21:01.05 | Shadowed | Lunessa see it's attitude like this that gets you in trouble! |
| 21:01.22 | Shadowed | also that guy is stupid |
| 21:01.33 | Lunessa | Shadowed: /concur |
| 21:17.44 | Kraps | its about time someone told you the truth Lunessa |
| 21:18.09 | Lunessa | I can handle the truth! |
| 21:29.01 | Kraps | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13194-SoundcommandsforeverysoundupdatedforWrath.html |
| 21:29.09 | zenzelezz | http://www.gucomics.com/archives/view.php?cdate=20100402 |
| 21:29.09 | Kraps | great link :p |
| 21:36.14 | Gnarfoz | fuuu eyonix oO |
| 21:36.59 | zenzelezz | ..? |
| 21:38.30 | Gnarfoz | he quit |
| 21:38.34 | Gnarfoz | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=24038458689&sid=1 |
| 21:39.03 | Fisker | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:39.21 | Fisker | who would want to quit from Blizzard? :( |
| 21:39.22 | zenzelezz | lies! |
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| 21:40.58 | Lunessa | Fisker: It's happened before, it'll happen again. and a CSR just just doesn't pay the big bucks. |
| 21:41.13 | Lunessa | At least he didn't post it on the first. |
| 21:43.05 | Fisker | well he's a GM :P |
| 21:43.08 | Fisker | err |
| 21:43.08 | Fisker | CM |
| 21:43.16 | ZorbaTHut | plus, as cool as Blizzard is, they're not the perfect company |
| 21:43.36 | ZorbaTHut | I probably wouldn't take a Blizzard job if one was offered to me, unless it was really, really awesome |
| 21:43.38 | Fisker | well i guess after a while even cool gets stale |
| 21:43.57 | zenzelezz | I'm guessing there's not much variety in CM work |
| 21:44.21 | Fisker | but it's blizzard approved trolling :( |
| 21:45.15 | Gnarfoz | bibi said it was women troubles, and bibi is always right! |
| 21:45.19 | Lunessa | And not much room for advancement. Companies rarely promote community managers out of their positions. Those positions don't usually need to more interesting, challenging or better-paid work. |
| 21:45.31 | Fisker | man i miss Tseric |
| 21:45.34 | zenzelezz | true I guess |
| 21:46.04 | zenzelezz | the current game designer or whatever he is for Age of Conan was the Anarchy Online CM for a while; but then Funcom's a much smaller company |
| 21:46.56 | Fisker | Funcom is infact the leading example it not promoting your community managers then |
| 21:46.57 | Fisker | (oh snap) |
| 21:47.36 | zenzelezz | it seems Thundgot is still at Blizzard? |
| 21:47.46 | zenzelezz | had fun messing with him when he was the AO CM |
| 21:49.57 | Fisker | and yeah he is |
| 21:49.58 | Fisker | :O |
| 21:50.29 | zenzelezz | Fisker, stop holding up my faction change |
| 21:52.42 | Fisker | i'm not |
| 21:52.46 | Fisker | you just forgot to approve it |
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| 22:17.46 | foxlit | wowhead sucks at updating? |
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| 22:28.07 | Kraps | wut http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=24038458689&sid=1&pageNo=8#156 |
| 22:30.17 | Shadowed | what |
| 22:30.29 | zenzelezz | he's going to work for Sega? |
| 22:30.35 | zenzelezz | or whoever has the Sonic franchise |
| 22:31.18 | Kraps | hes getting married |
| 22:31.36 | Shadowed | to Sega? |
| 22:31.42 | zenzelezz | and his wife-to-be is the hedgehog? |
| 22:32.04 | Kraps | ^ |
| 22:33.07 | Shadowed | clearlyu |
| 22:33.09 | Shadowed | -u |
| 22:43.58 | Shadowed | lua> print([==[Foo bar]==]) |
| 22:44.03 | lua_bot | Shadowed: Foo bar |
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| 23:12.42 | cog|work | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99smfEQW8sA <-- full of lulz |
| 23:16.14 | Dagmar | Hopefully by now, all those people have been burned alive. |
| 23:16.33 | haste | at least one of those are still alive |
| 23:16.40 | Dagmar | I have a zippo. |
| 23:16.48 | haste | go to work! |
| 23:21.23 | industrial | FFFFFFT |
| 23:21.29 | industrial | bad acting GO AWAI |
| 23:21.32 | industrial | claws |
| 23:27.43 | Arathros | cog|work lol |
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| 23:52.21 | Arathros | did they change so you cant send commands that doesnt exists |
| 23:52.37 | Arathros | i cant /gs lol |
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| 23:53.06 | Gnarfoz | ? |
| 23:54.41 | OhGrimes | You mean custom commands? |
