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| 00:01.17 | Gintaro | the strangest thing is happening here |
| 00:01.28 | Gintaro | wow-europe.com is not loading in FF, but it is in IE |
| 00:01.47 | Cide | yes, that is what happens when you take hallucinogens |
| 00:01.57 | Gintaro | If only |
| 00:03.56 | cbreak | http://www.wow-europe.com/en/index.xml loads in my FF |
| 00:05.04 | Gintaro | It starts loading the page, the title will show, and then the title is reset and I still have a blank page |
| 00:05.30 | cbreak | try disabling java script and flash |
| 00:05.44 | Gintaro | heh, site won't even work without JS |
| 00:05.53 | Gintaro | and flash is off by default |
| 00:06.10 | cbreak | :/ |
| 00:06.16 | cbreak | then selectively enable some JS |
| 00:12.48 | Gintaro | aha! the content is being fetched, yet somewhere in the rendering of the xml something is broken |
| 00:20.33 | Gintaro | bah, what's the location of the wow-europe xsl sheet |
| 00:21.07 | Shirik | FF = Final Fantasy |
| 00:22.25 | Gintaro | Oh right, the endless discussion on the acronym of firefox |
| 00:28.12 | Adys | ~wowiquotes |
| 00:28.13 | purl | http://www.teomyr.eu/wowuidev/irc-quotes |
| 00:28.20 | Adys | oh |
| 00:28.42 | Adys | http://www.teomyr.eu/wowwiki/irc-quotes?ids=201#quote-201 |
| 00:28.43 | Adys | Gintaro: ^ |
| 00:29.09 | Gintaro | :P |
| 00:30.55 | Adys | nevcairiel: ping |
| 00:39.46 | Gintaro | right! I've located the problem |
| 00:41.50 | Gintaro | Now to figure out why |
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| 00:47.44 | Arathros | got a question |
| 00:48.03 | Jamash | got an answer |
| 00:48.07 | Arathros | an offline rpg with great graphics. and wow style gameplay? any? |
| 00:48.53 | Jamash | hmm |
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| 00:49.47 | Gintaro | Why is firefox choking on an iframe of some advertiser :( |
| 00:51.40 | Arathros | cause the ad is fucked up |
| 00:52.12 | Jamash | noscript yo |
| 00:53.21 | Gintaro | noscript isn't working since it's an inline script from wow-europe |
| 00:53.49 | Arathros | aaaah |
| 00:53.58 | Arathros | whats up with wow-europe with adds lol |
| 00:54.28 | Arathros | anyway.. no idea? |
| 00:55.11 | Gintaro | The strange thing is, is that it apparently effects only me |
| 00:55.54 | Gintaro | I guess I'll go update or something |
| 00:58.15 | Gintaro | lol, I guess a new release fixed it |
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| 01:01.54 | Gintaro | I guess it was a fuss over nothing |
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| 01:12.13 | *** topic/#wowuidev is http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.3.x ToC: 30300 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Blizzcon 2010 Oct 22 & 23 | "Internal error, infinite wait has timed out." |
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| 01:44.56 | WobWork | And in the "Captain Obvious, Defender of News" division today: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/29/ricky-martin-comes-out-im_n_517625.html |
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| 01:52.08 | DWSR | and in the "Actually Newsworthy" section: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/27/kim-kardashian-tweets-bik_n_515966.html |
| 01:59.38 | Lunessa | So, I must be wrong headed or something, but I don't think she's attractive. |
| 02:11.28 | Gintaro | No, I'm guessing she used to be a man |
| 02:17.11 | Adys | !api boss |
| 02:17.12 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'boss'. |
| 02:17.26 | Adys | is there a way to tell whether a npc is a boss? |
| 02:30.56 | Gintaro | Isn't level usually used? |
| 02:31.57 | Arrowmaster | !api unitclassification |
| 02:31.59 | lua_bot | UnitClassification: Returns a unit's classification (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitClassification) |
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| 02:32.57 | Gintaro | the worldboss part is a bit misleading though |
| 02:38.58 | Adys | what the hell @ http://dpaste.com/177548/ |
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| 02:47.50 | cog|away | ~lart youtube |
| 02:47.50 | purl | squishes youtube like a bug |
| 02:50.38 | cog|away | is it just me or have they been having bandwidth issues the last few days? (Beyond what's expected, of course) |
| 02:51.24 | Arrowmaster | Adys: what about it? what is it? |
| 02:51.43 | Adys | like 95% of openssl changes are sponsored by google |
| 02:52.31 | Arrowmaster | they probably use it |
| 02:57.03 | cbreak | was it already debianified? :) |
| 03:02.50 | Arrowmaster | cbreak: openssl 1.0? no idea, one of the debian servers melted so there have been no changes to testing/unstable for the past few days, maintainers are still able to upload new packages though from what i understand, they just arent available yet |
| 03:03.12 | Lunessa | cog|away: YouTube is mostly "suckTube" and "Copyright ViolationTube" anyway. |
| 03:03.15 | cbreak | they'll probably take all week to remove all the entropy from it. |
| 03:03.41 | Arrowmaster | cbreak: that wasnt entirely debians fault |
| 03:04.36 | Arrowmaster | cbreak: that dev was trying to track down and fix a problem and got ignored by upstream, he even sent that bad patch to upstream asking if anything was wrong and was ignored |
| 03:05.27 | cbreak | relying on uninitialized memory for entropy was stupid to begin with |
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| 03:26.30 | Arathros | what time is it now gmt +1 |
| 03:27.37 | DWSR | 6am |
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| 03:27.42 | DWSR | 6:30am |
| 03:27.51 | Arathros | 05:30 right |
| 03:29.26 | Shirik | ha |
| 03:29.38 | Shirik | I joined an IRC channel in which every edit & action on wikipedia is announced |
| 03:29.43 | Shirik | omg it's fast |
| 03:29.46 | Arathros | hehe |
| 03:29.57 | Arathros | i updated something earlier on The rock lol |
| 03:30.00 | Lunessa | Shirik: You've just proven you're a masochist. |
| 03:30.11 | mikma | arathros: prison or actor |
| 03:30.15 | Arathros | actor ;P |
| 03:31.12 | Arathros | let me refind it |
| 03:31.56 | Jerub | anyone know wherei can go on irc to talk to cat nuts? |
| 03:32.08 | DWSR | to or about? |
| 03:33.07 | Arathros | «If ya smell what The Rock is cooking» |
| 03:33.14 | Arathros | that was what someone said |
| 03:33.29 | Arathros | «Can you smell, what The Rock is cooking» |
| 03:33.32 | Arathros | is the correct one ;P |
| 03:34.13 | Jerub | i mean. |
| 03:34.14 | Jerub | 'car' |
| 03:34.15 | Jerub | car nuts |
| 03:34.31 | WobWork | hehe cat nuts |
| 03:34.31 | Arathros | hehe cat nuts.. try the cheezburgah site |
| 03:35.18 | WobWork | #topgear? |
| 03:37.40 | Jerub | heh |
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| 03:58.33 | cog|away | O.o "city councilman Bonner Gaylord has offered to name his unborn children Sergey and Larry, after the founders of Google. All he wants in return is the search giant to build its proposed high-speed fiber-optic network in Raleigh." |
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| 03:59.53 | Shadowed | Anyone good with MySQL by any chance? |
| 04:05.53 | Adys | I'm good at trashing it in public |
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| 04:10.48 | WobWork | It's an especially enthusiastic melee this evening. Partway through you defend one of the barmaids when she finds herself in the path of an oblivious knot of combatants. After the dust is settled and the losers' pockets are justly lightened, she spends the rest of the evening and the following day cooing to all and sundry about your heroism and vigour. "A proper individual of mysterious and indistinct gender! But, y'know, one who ca |
| 04:10.51 | WobWork | ^^ |
| 04:11.32 | cogwheel | But, y'know, one who ca |
| 04:11.42 | WobWork | But, y'know, one who can pull kneecaps out as and when as it's necessary."Â |
| 04:12.30 | WobWork | The writing in this game is awesome =) |
| 04:13.03 | Corrodias | which game? |
| 04:13.24 | WobWork | EchoBazaar |
| 04:13.44 | WobWork | browser based game |
| 04:13.56 | WobWork | with twitter integration for networking |
| 04:15.36 | Corrodias | when you say browser based game, is it HTML with something in the backend, is it flash, or is it java? or something else entirely? |
| 04:15.59 | Arrowmaster | you forgot javascript |
| 04:16.25 | Corrodias | that may have been a defense mechanism |
| 04:16.45 | Arrowmaster | yet you mentioned java? |
| 04:17.46 | Corrodias | funny how that works. anyway i'm still curious. |
| 04:23.39 | WobWork | ajax I believe |
| 04:24.09 | WobWork | give it a go, it's quite entertaining. It's a turn based sort of game |
| 04:24.14 | WobWork | so there's no timed factor |
| 04:24.51 | WobWork | Sort of Victorian Steampunk London |
| 04:26.37 | Shirik | ok guys pop quiz |
| 04:26.49 | WobWork | shoot the hostage |
| 04:27.25 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/134728 |
| 04:27.34 | Shirik | My debugger says this regex matches, but my program says it does not |
| 04:27.35 | cogwheel | pop quiz: Mountain Dew is naturally flavored - true or false? |
| 04:27.40 | Shirik | any bright ideas on why the mismatch might occur? |
| 04:27.47 | cogwheel | (get it? POP quiz...) |
| 04:27.56 | WobWork | cogwheel: ...false? |
| 04:28.03 | Corrodias | interesting |
| 04:28.30 | Corrodias | well, it's not a natural substance. how can it be naturally flavored? |
| 04:28.53 | WobWork | Shirik: \000307etc ? |
| 04:29.01 | cogwheel | it's only artificially colored :P |
| 04:29.08 | Shirik | \000307 == 0x03 followed by the number 07 |
| 04:29.21 | Shirik | I even re-checked the specification |
| 04:29.34 | cogwheel | (at least plain old mountain dew... the others are pretty much all artificial) |
| 04:30.41 | WobWork | is \0003 some hidden character or something? |
| 04:30.56 | WobWork | oh I see |
| 04:31.24 | WobWork | ugh |
| 04:31.55 | Shirik | it's the mirc color code header |
| 04:32.55 | WobWork | maybe it's not rendering as \0003 in the string it's looking at |
| 04:33.02 | Shirik | woah |
| 04:33.11 | Shirik | I put it into Qt's example application and it says it's an invalid regex |
| 04:33.37 | WobWork | hm |
| 04:33.44 | WobWork | you have [^\]]+ |
| 04:33.53 | WobWork | should that be [^\]]- ? |
| 04:34.16 | Shirik | apparently it doesn't like .+? |
| 04:34.29 | Adys | because its invalid |
| 04:34.53 | WobWork | is it? |
| 04:35.01 | Adys | yes |
| 04:35.03 | WobWork | .+ is (one or more of any character) ? |
| 04:35.14 | Adys | ".+?" is invalid |
| 04:35.14 | WobWork | isn't it? |
| 04:35.19 | Shirik | why is .+? invalid? |
| 04:35.33 | Adys | because both + and ? are the same type of marker |
| 04:35.35 | WobWork | aha |
| 04:35.37 | WobWork | escape the ? |
| 04:35.50 | WobWork | you're trying to match "php?sdflkasdf" |
| 04:35.53 | Adys | ah |
| 04:35.59 | Adys | then yeah, escape the ? |
| 04:36.14 | Adys | (btw use quotes around those questionmarks its confusing as hell) |
| 04:36.35 | Shirik | oh that ? is supposed to be escaped yes |
| 04:36.39 | Shirik | but .+? is correct still |
| 04:36.45 | Adys | no its not :P |
| 04:36.50 | Shirik | yes it is ._. |
| 04:36.53 | WobWork | wait my mistake |
| 04:36.58 | WobWork | .+? is not correct =) |
| 04:37.02 | Adys | "(.+)?" is correct |
| 04:37.07 | Jerub | .+? is valid in some engines. |
| 04:37.08 | Adys | ".+\?" is correct |
| 04:37.18 | Adys | not in sane ones |
| 04:37.20 | Jerub | oh, right, you're not wanting non-greedy matching |
| 04:37.24 | Shirik | yes I am |
| 04:37.38 | WobWork | well, actually |
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| 04:37.41 | Adys | to change greed level you need parentheses |
| 04:37.41 | Jerub | Adys: .+? means as few as possible of any character.. |
| 04:37.43 | WobWork | what are you wanting to capture there? |
| 04:38.02 | Jerub | in vim regexp one would say .\{-} for instance. |
| 04:38.07 | Jerub | to mean the same thing |
| 04:38.14 | Adys | Jerub: (:??.+) would do what you want i believe |
| 04:38.23 | Jerub | Adys: in what engine? |
| 04:38.45 | Adys | non-matching, non-greedy amount of any character |
| 04:38.58 | Shirik | awww..... |
| 04:39.00 | Adys | i'm pretty sure it's perl-compatible at least |
| 04:39.02 | Shirik | QRegExp's quantifiers are the same as Perl's greedy quantifiers. Non-greedy matching cannot be applied to individual quantifiers, but can be applied to all the quantifiers in the pattern. |
| 04:40.16 | Jerub | Adys: (: as a sequence of characters does not appear in man perlre |
| 04:40.25 | Jerub | oh, non-matching non-greedy? |
| 04:40.30 | Adys | try disabling smileys |
| 04:40.44 | Jerub | Adys: ? i don't smily |
| 04:40.54 | Adys | was a joke >.> |
| 04:41.00 | Shirik | Adys: My regex debugger says (:??.+) means very little close to .+? |
| 04:41.32 | Shirik | it says match : between 0 and 1 times, as few times as possible (lazy) followed by any character between 1 and infinite times (greedy) |
| 04:41.52 | Adys | well? |
| 04:41.55 | Adys | isnt that what you want? |
| 04:42.01 | Shirik | well wtf does :?? have to do with it o.o |
| 04:42.08 | Jerub | matching on : 0 and 1 times? |
| 04:42.15 | Adys | er |
| 04:42.21 | Adys | i forget parenthese syntax |
| 04:42.25 | Jerub | there's (?: in perl regexes, maybe you mean some variant of them. |
| 04:42.30 | Adys | AH |
| 04:42.31 | Adys | yes |
| 04:42.32 | Jerub | Adys: it sounds like you just fail. :P |
| 04:42.38 | Adys | (?:?.+) |
| 04:43.17 | Shirik | (?:?.+) --> Error: Quantifiers must be preceded by a token that can be repeated |
| 04:43.46 | Adys | idk then |
| 04:43.52 | mikma | well provide them a repeative token damnit! |
| 04:44.47 | Jerub | i think .+? is basically what's wanted. |
| 04:44.56 | Jerub | being the way to get a non-greedy match in a bunch of regex engines. |
| 04:45.03 | Adys | shush jerub, I dont want you to be right |
| 04:47.24 | Shirik | unfortunately not supported, so I'll find another way |
| 04:48.57 | Shirik | it appears non-greedy doesn't matter anyway... |
| 04:49.48 | Shirik | ]] by |
| 04:49.48 | Shirik | ) diff= |
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| 05:16.49 | Shirik | anyway Adys |
| 05:16.53 | Shirik | I was right you were wrong |
| 05:16.54 | Shirik | that is all |
| 05:17.01 | Shirik | works now |
| 05:20.24 | Adys | whatever, i thinkt he point is that I was right |
| 05:20.43 | Adys | !api UnitVehicleSeatInfo |
| 05:20.43 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'UnitVehicleSeatInfo'. |
| 05:23.03 | Adys | hmmm |
| 05:23.15 | Adys | anyone knows what the last two boolean returns in UnitVehicleSeatInfo are? |
| 05:23.46 | Adys | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitVehicleSeatInfo |
| 05:23.48 | Adys | wtf |
| 05:23.51 | Adys | lua_bot: u broken? |
| 05:23.51 | lua_bot | Adys: luabot:1: '=' expected near 'broken' |
| 05:23.57 | Adys | thought so |
| 05:25.11 | Adys | hey this is absolutely awesome |
| 05:25.24 | Adys | why dont they give those things a guid/unit type :( |
| 05:29.26 | Adys | here's a challenge: i want to figure out whether my target is a vehicle controlled by a player |
| 05:29.53 | Adys | such as a sota/wg cannon |
| 05:31.40 | WobWork | Ask it to pass a Turing Test |
| 05:32.30 | Adys | i think you meant a turret test |
| 05:32.33 | Adys | (YEAHHHHHH) |
| 05:35.33 | Adys | the meaning of awesome: spellstealing avenging wrath + bloodlust and popping icy veins |
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| 05:45.48 | Shirik | anyone here think they have a crappy computer and willing to trust me if I send them an exe to run? |
| 05:46.00 | Trela | Scary. |
| 05:46.11 | Adys | Shirik: hit me, ill run it on wine |
| 05:46.27 | Shirik | how about you compile and run on Linux, so I know it works there instead? |
| 05:46.42 | Adys | if you really want |
| 05:46.51 | Shirik | I haven't had an opportunity to compile/run on linux |
| 05:46.52 | Shirik | so |
| 05:47.02 | Adys | what does it keylog? |
| 05:47.02 | Shirik | do you have qt installed? |
| 05:47.05 | Adys | yeah ofc |
| 05:47.08 | Shirik | your WP password |
| 05:47.13 | Adys | WP? |
| 05:49.21 | Shirik | wikipedia |
| 05:49.23 | Shirik | anyway |
| 05:49.50 | WobWork | sandboxy ftw |
| 05:49.59 | Shirik | check out from https://collabrc.googlecode.com/hg/ |
| 05:49.59 | WobWork | er sandboxie |
| 05:50.02 | Shirik | (mercurial repo) |
| 05:54.02 | Adys | why would you use mercurial |
| 05:54.03 | Adys | :( |
| 05:54.07 | Adys | oh, googlecode |
| 05:54.17 | Adys | ugh they better add git support fast |
| 05:54.54 | Adys | adys@azura:~/src$ hg checkout https://collabrc.googlecode.com/hg/ |
| 05:54.54 | Adys | abort: There is no Mercurial repository here (.hg not found)! |
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| 06:05.46 | Shirik | um |
| 06:05.56 | Shirik | that's because it's hg clone |
| 06:05.58 | Shirik | ~lart Adys |
| 06:05.58 | purl | explains, ever so gently, that if Adys doesn't give the channel more information, they can't help |
| 06:06.52 | Adys | k what now |
| 06:08.09 | Jerub | Adys: what do you want to do? |
| 06:08.29 | Jerub | oh, right, nevermind, it's software :P |
| 06:08.52 | Adys | shirik |
| 06:08.54 | Adys | what now |
| 06:09.08 | Shirik | um |
| 06:09.12 | Shirik | go into the CollabRC folder inside that |
| 06:09.15 | Shirik | qmake |
| 06:09.25 | Adys | Project MESSAGE: You are running qmake on a generated .pro file. This may not work! |
| 06:09.26 | Adys | Project MESSAGE: Warning: unknown QT: qtmain |
| 06:09.50 | Shirik | ? |
| 06:10.08 | Adys | when i do qmake |
| 06:10.15 | Shirik | did it generate a makefile? |
| 06:10.18 | Adys | idk |
| 06:10.19 | Adys | prolly |
| 06:10.22 | Adys | those are warnings |
| 06:10.36 | Shirik | make |
| 06:10.58 | Adys | CollaborationChannel.cpp:1:20: error: StdAfx.h: No such file or directory |
| 06:11.10 | Adys | followed by a plethora of errors |
| 06:11.13 | Shirik | failllllllllll visual studio |
| 06:11.48 | Shirik | VS thinks capitalization is a luxury, not a necessity |
| 06:12.52 | zenzio | how so? |
| 06:15.13 | Shirik | because |
| 06:15.17 | Shirik | it goes #include StdAfx.h |
| 06:15.21 | Shirik | but it creates stdafx.h |
| 06:15.49 | zenzio | peculiar, but it does run on a case-insensitive OS |
| 06:16.27 | Adys | uppercase should never have been invented |
| 06:16.46 | zenzio | that's interesting coming from someone with a nick starting with an uppercase letter |
| 06:17.40 | Adys | is it |
| 06:17.47 | Adys | i thought it was pretty boring tbh |
| 06:18.27 | zenzio | actually, wasn't uppercase all they had before? At least in early European languages |
| 06:22.26 | Shirik | pokes adys |
| 06:22.27 | Shirik | maybe I disconnected too early |
| 06:22.28 | Shirik | (02:17:03) (@Shirik) Adys: `hg pull` and try to make again |
| 06:22.28 | Shirik | (02:17:23) * Disconnected |
| 06:22.34 | Adys | kay |
| 06:23.07 | Adys | same errors |
| 06:23.43 | Shirik | sigh, disconnected again |
| 06:23.51 | Shirik | am I talking to myself or did others see my earlier messages? |
| 06:24.00 | Adys | i saw you telling me to hg pull |
| 06:24.03 | Adys | and it didnt work |
| 06:24.06 | Shirik | ok |
| 06:24.10 | Shirik | what's wrong now? |
| 06:24.10 | Adys | same errr |
| 06:24.12 | Shirik | ?? |
| 06:24.19 | Shirik | are you sure you know how to hg pull? |
| 06:24.24 | Adys | yes |
| 06:24.27 | Adys | i type "hg pull" |
| 06:24.33 | Adys | then i press enter |
| 06:24.47 | Adys | i wait until the cursor is back to its original position on the console so that i know it's done pulling |
| 06:24.57 | Jerub | Adys: you need hg update now |
| 06:25.00 | Jerub | or, hg pull -u |
| 06:25.14 | Jerub | Adys: pull grabs new patches, update actually updates your working copy with those patches. |
| 06:25.34 | Adys | what kind of retarded versioning systems do you guys use |
| 06:25.36 | Jerub | Shirik: adys doesn't know hg, make sure to give him commands that work. |
| 06:25.59 | Shirik | he used bzr it's practically the same >< |
| 06:25.59 | Adys | ok same error |
| 06:26.04 | Adys | wtf no its not |
| 06:26.14 | Adys | wait, different error sorryu |
| 06:26.21 | Shirik | hey um |
| 06:26.33 | Adys | http://dpaste.com/177593/ |
| 06:26.36 | Shirik | in CollabRC.pro go in there and change PRECOMPILED_HEADER to all lowercase |
| 06:26.51 | Shirik | omfg |
| 06:26.54 | Shirik | I'm going to destroy visual studio |
| 06:27.10 | Adys | thats what ive been telling you to do for a long time |
| 06:27.53 | Shirik | like seriously, it takes EXTRA work to make it all lowercase |
| 06:27.55 | Shirik | why would you do that |
| 06:29.39 | Shirik | Adys: Pull, update, make |
| 06:31.33 | Adys | http://dpaste.com/177595/ |
| 06:31.34 | Adys | Shirik: |
| 06:31.43 | Shirik | omfg |
| 06:32.20 | Shirik | can you rerun qmake |
| 06:32.22 | Shirik | then make |
| 06:32.37 | Shirik | it seems to not be using the PCH |
| 06:33.15 | ccox | still enjoying Qt? |
| 06:33.34 | Shirik | no, this is all VS's fault |
| 06:34.02 | Adys | same err |
| 06:34.40 | Shirik | add at the top of stdafx.h |
| 06:34.52 | Shirik | #include <QObject> |
| 06:35.10 | Shirik | don't you love being a guinea pig? |
| 06:37.05 | Adys | Shirik: http://dpaste.com/177597/ |
| 06:37.16 | Shirik | isn'tthat the same? |
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| 06:37.22 | Adys | iunno |
| 06:37.40 | Shirik | can you pastey your moc_CollaborationChannel.cpp? |
| 06:37.40 | Thunder_Child | man, dinner is not supposed to end at midnight after 5 courses |
| 06:38.09 | Adys | http://dpaste.com/177598/ |
| 06:38.12 | Adys | Shirik: ` |
| 06:38.19 | Thunder_Child | Adys: fail |
| 06:38.26 | Adys | Thunder_Child: ? |
| 06:38.52 | Thunder_Child | ignore me, i am way to tired and way to full to make sense right now |
| 06:38.56 | Jerub | WobWork: ... my nightmares just hit 8. |
| 06:39.02 | Shirik | yeah it's being generated wrong |
| 06:39.03 | Shirik | fail |
| 06:43.43 | Adys | Starfall is definatley a cool spell, |
| 06:43.44 | Adys | :( |
| 06:45.06 | Shirik | ok adys trash that folder |
| 06:46.31 | Shirik | then clone again |
| 06:46.35 | Shirik | please say it works |
| 06:53.38 | Shirik | did it work did it work did it work work work? |
| 07:02.35 | Adys | er |
| 07:02.37 | Adys | sec |
| 07:03.44 | Adys | yes |
| 07:03.49 | Adys | Shirik: |
| 07:03.59 | Shirik | it worked? o.o |
| 07:04.01 | Shirik | does it run? |
| 07:04.07 | Adys | idk how do i run it? |
| 07:04.14 | Shirik | make should have made.... something |
| 07:04.19 | Shirik | I don't know! |
| 07:04.21 | Shirik | look for an application |
| 07:04.30 | Shirik | called CollabRC I guess |
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| 07:23.11 | Adys | Shirik: theres nothing |
| 07:23.21 | Shirik | and make succeeded |
| 07:23.41 | Adys | http://dpaste.com/177607/ |
| 07:23.43 | Adys | apparently |
| 07:24.56 | Shirik | what was the output of running make? |
| 07:25.04 | Adys | adys@azura:~/src/collabrc/CollabRC$ make |
| 07:25.04 | Adys | make: Nothing to be done for `first'. |
| 07:25.40 | Arrowmaster | i dont even see a makefile how is make doing anything? |
| 07:26.03 | Shirik | qmake creates a makefile |
| 07:26.09 | Adys | there is a makefile |
| 07:26.11 | Adys | look harder :P |
| 07:26.18 | Adys | http://pastebin.com/9vy67j0V |
| 07:26.19 | Adys | full output |
| 07:26.25 | Shirik | Adys: make clean && make |
| 07:27.01 | Adys | same |
| 07:27.19 | Shirik | nothing to be done? |
| 07:27.40 | Adys | no, what i just pasted you |
| 07:28.23 | Shirik | ? |
| 07:28.25 | Shirik | what? |
| 07:28.27 | Adys | [08:26:17] <Adys> http://pastebin.com/9vy67j0V |
| 07:28.52 | Shirik | oh I missed that |
| 07:29.13 | Adys | course you did |
| 07:29.13 | Shirik | look for a CollabRC program in ../Debug/CollabRC |
| 07:29.17 | Shirik | is it there? |
| 07:29.29 | Adys | got it |
| 07:29.30 | Adys | that works |
| 07:29.52 | Shirik | ok |
| 07:29.57 | Shirik | now back to the thing I wanted you to try an hour ago |
| 07:29.59 | Shirik | run top |
| 07:30.05 | Shirik | is the CPU usage excessive? |
| 07:30.32 | Adys | i dont even see it on there |
| 07:30.48 | Shirik | ok good |
| 07:31.01 | Adys | yea 0% cpu |
| 07:32.50 | Shirik | GeneratedFiles/debug/../../LoggedEvent.h:30: warning: format â%08xâ expects type âunsigned intâ, but argument 2 has type âconst CLoggedEvent*â |
| 07:32.55 | Shirik | What kind of compiler makes that a warning |
| 07:33.00 | Shirik | stabs gcc |
| 07:33.55 | Adys | hes right you know. |
| 07:34.16 | Shirik | wtf you want me to use |
| 07:34.33 | Shirik | oh hey Adys |
| 07:34.35 | Shirik | while you're here |
| 07:34.43 | Shirik | can you run valgrind on that program and give me the output? |
| 07:34.44 | Adys | I'm NOT here |
| 07:34.51 | Adys | ah fu i removed valgrind i think |
| 07:34.59 | Shirik | ah fu why would you remove a godly program |
| 07:35.27 | Adys | because fu it came with kdevelop and i hate kdevelop |
| 07:35.52 | Shirik | valgrind is awesome on its onw |
| 07:35.53 | Shirik | own |
| 07:36.05 | Adys | remind me how do I use that stuff |
| 07:36.14 | Adys | valgrind -p ./CollabRC? |
| 07:36.21 | Shirik | wtf is -p |
| 07:36.30 | Adys | fuck |
| 07:36.32 | Adys | do i look like i know |
| 07:36.38 | Shirik | just valgrind program |
| 07:37.01 | Adys | wow |
| 07:37.08 | Adys | i dont remember valgrind making programs so slow? |
| 07:37.12 | Shirik | oh yeah |
| 07:37.17 | Shirik | it practically is an emulator |
| 07:37.40 | Adys | ctrl-c or normally quit the app? |
| 07:37.48 | Shirik | wait for it to say "system ready" then quit normally |
| 07:37.56 | Shirik | in the log at the bottom of the window |
| 07:38.06 | Shirik | should say "connecting to collaboration channel" etc |
| 07:38.33 | Shirik | eh I already see you connected, you can close it down |
| 07:38.57 | Adys | how do I exit :( |
| 07:39.00 | Adys | the menu not working |
| 07:39.05 | Shirik | the same way you do any other program |
| 07:39.07 | Shirik | o.o |
| 07:39.12 | Shirik | isnt' there a close button? |
| 07:39.15 | Shirik | like in the corner |
| 07:39.16 | Adys | uh yeah sure |
| 07:39.22 | Adys | but the menu isnt working. |
| 07:39.26 | Shirik | I haven't implemented that yet |
| 07:39.34 | Adys | wtf you suck |
| 07:39.40 | Shirik | the close button in the corner |
| 07:39.41 | Shirik | click it |
| 07:40.26 | Adys | sec |
| 07:42.41 | Adys | http://pastebin.com/aKsAVmXP shirik |
| 07:43.16 | Shirik | I love you |
| 07:47.43 | Adys | and i love python |
| 07:47.48 | Adys | this means you want to have sex with python |
| 07:48.49 | Shirik | nop |
| 07:49.04 | zenzio | reptile sex? o_O |
| 07:49.19 | Nechckn | That poor "snake".... how could you sick Shirik on it, Adys? |
| 07:56.58 | Cairenn | OM NOM NOM NOM! http://www.chow.com/recipes/11499?tag=nl.e351 |
| 07:57.37 | Cairenn | there's like 19 layers there! |
| 07:58.30 | Adys | night |
| 07:58.36 | Cairenn | night Adys |
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| 07:58.45 | Adys | what a coincidence |
| 07:58.50 | Adys | [08:58:29] <Adys> night |
| 07:58.51 | Adys | [08:58:37] --> Kalroth (~kalroth@0x573f1066.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.hjnqu1.customer.tele.dk) has joined #wowuidev |
| 07:58.56 | zenzio | can you even fit that in your mouth? Or are the layers just super-thin? |
| 07:59.07 | Kalroth | :( |
| 07:59.09 | Adys | wow zenzio |
| 07:59.15 | Adys | Kalroth: he's talking about you |
| 07:59.31 | zenzio | nonsense, we all know Kalroth only has one layer |
| 07:59.35 | Kalroth | <zenzio> can you even fit that in your mouth? <- I say that often |
| 07:59.44 | zenzio | Kalroth: and they laugh in response |
| 07:59.56 | Kalroth | :( |
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| 08:07.40 | Shirik | Cairenn |
| 08:07.42 | Shirik | you are evil |
| 08:07.44 | Shirik | I'm so hungry :( |
| 08:07.48 | Cairenn | sorry |
| 08:07.53 | Shirik | but I'm trying to hold back on eating so much |
| 08:08.33 | Cairenn | like you need to worry about your weight? |
| 08:08.55 | Shirik | well I shouldn't be eating 24/7 |
| 08:09.25 | zenzio | lua> 24/7 |
| 08:09.26 | lua_bot | zenzio: 3.4285714285714 |
| 08:09.38 | Cairenn | it's actually healthier to eat multiple small servings throughout the day than to eat 3 large meals |
| 08:09.52 | zenzio | what about two small meals? |
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| 08:11.16 | Cairenn | and Shirik? if it makes you feel any better - I realized when I looked at that recipe that I never ate today |
| 08:11.32 | Shirik | so make one! |
| 08:11.38 | Cairenn | yeah, right |
| 08:11.39 | Elkano | wow... just had a "you rage, you loose" daily random hero :/ a hunter equiped with tank/strength items whereever possible... :/ |
| 08:12.53 | Arrowmaster | my parents are going away for their 35th anniversary this week, knowing me ill probably end up not eating a proper meal for a few days and just have a little bit of junk food |
| 08:17.18 | Shirik | lmao, WP has an article on the game |
| 08:17.29 | Shirik | it has been nominated for deletion 9 times (some successful) |
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| 08:23.28 | cbreak | http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2010/03/evony-investigating-the-game-everyone-loves-to-hate.ars |
| 08:51.53 | zenzio | tha'ts an interesting read |
| 08:52.06 | zenzio | *that's |
| 08:52.13 | Wobin | If I ever had the slightest miniscule inkling of wondering how Evony was |
| 08:52.16 | Wobin | that fixed it =P |
| 08:58.51 | Wobin | .. |
| 08:59.04 | Wobin | "CLASH OF THE TITANS!!! ONLY IN 3D (also in 2D)" |
| 09:00.30 | DanielAstbury | i'm so excited! just 5 more bars and then I hit outland! :) |
| 09:00.50 | DanielAstbury | even though i've already done outland and northrend a few times |
| 09:05.28 | olafski | :) |
| 09:05.36 | olafski | I still very much prefer vanilla |
| 09:06.12 | DanielAstbury | I get really frustrated with a lot of the quests in classic WoW even though I know pretty much all of them |
| 09:06.13 | olafski | must've leveled through the vanilla content about 15 times now |
| 09:09.14 | DanielAstbury | with the theme of northrend being undead and outland being demons it is going to be so easy for me |
| 09:09.43 | olafski | I bet you're a hunter! |
| 09:10.06 | DanielAstbury | not only can I pull around 8-15 mobs and burn them down with AoE, but I can smash undead and demobs down before they even touch me |
| 09:10.12 | DanielAstbury | i'm an imbadin |
| 09:11.28 | olafski | :) |
| 09:11.41 | DanielAstbury | instant random dungeons, easy leveling...this is the life |
| 09:12.12 | olafski | +) I know right |
| 09:12.16 | olafski | my warrior dinged 60 last night |
| 09:12.23 | DanielAstbury | nice :) grats |
| 09:12.40 | DanielAstbury | 4 bars now :) and 5 quests to hand in |
| 09:13.39 | olafski | wish I could pull 8-15 mobs at once |
| 09:13.46 | olafski | usually when I try, the first start to run away again |
| 09:14.07 | DanielAstbury | i mount up, gather as many as I can and then just kill em |
| 09:14.23 | olafski | yer me too but I can never get more than about 6 |
| 09:14.29 | olafski | depends on what type of area though |
| 09:14.39 | olafski | I guess some of the more populated areas, like the troll ruins in STV, I can grab more :) |
| 09:14.48 | DanielAstbury | yeah |
| 09:15.27 | olafski | and of course just let a few runners go so they can pull more |
| 09:15.28 | olafski | life as a protection warrior is pretty decent ;p |
| 09:15.28 | DanielAstbury | prot pally too :D |
| 09:15.28 | olafski | had about 2100g when I hit 60 too.. moneymaking is easy ;p |
| 09:15.50 | DanielAstbury | I've got 1K now :) |
| 09:16.07 | olafski | anything over 250g would have been enough anyway |
| 09:16.09 | DanielAstbury | i've got mining but i've not leveled it |
| 09:16.30 | DanielAstbury | i really should for outland nodes, but meh |
| 09:16.42 | olafski | ah I have mining and skinning :) |
| 09:16.47 | DanielAstbury | me too! |
| 09:16.55 | DanielAstbury | and cooking 295 |
| 09:17.13 | olafski | oh nice, baron charr just popped ;p |
| 09:17.30 | DanielAstbury | heh |
| 09:17.31 | olafski | my cooking is 284, I should get the last 16 points so I can continue in outland |
| 09:17.37 | DanielAstbury | yeah |
| 09:18.07 | DanielAstbury | i had over 100 clam magnifique, it's hard to get the last 5 points lol |
| 09:18.47 | olafski | the bears in winterspring did quite well for me |
| 09:19.04 | DanielAstbury | juicy bear burgar is gray for me now :( |
| 09:19.10 | olafski | hmm |
| 09:19.23 | DanielAstbury | only the clam one is green |
| 09:19.44 | Fisker | omg yes |
| 09:19.53 | Fisker | they finally moved the weekly reset to wednesdays for eu |
| 09:20.08 | olafski | isn't that lame.. I killed baron charr but he was grey :P |
| 09:20.44 | olafski | I have 2 yellow and 1 orange atm danielastbury.. should be doable to get to 300 |
| 09:20.47 | olafski | but the orange one is annoying :P |
| 09:20.57 | DanielAstbury | hehe |
| 09:21.11 | DanielAstbury | i need 1221 xp now :) |
| 09:22.53 | olafski | grr my alt+1 binding won't work |
| 09:23.15 | DanielAstbury | <-- clicker |
| 09:23.40 | olafski | :) |
| 09:25.42 | olafski | bindings-cache.wtf fixed :) |
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| 09:27.49 | DanielAstbury | off to outland now :) |
| 09:28.28 | olafski | gz |
| 09:29.22 | DanielAstbury | :) |
| 09:31.32 | olafski | yay 6 baby raptor teeth |
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| 10:11.43 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/482495407 |
| 10:11.54 | recluse | pfft. "Ricky Martin announces he is gay." ...As if anyone thought he was straight? |
| 10:13.43 | Corrodias | someone commented "that's like will smith admitting he's black." |
| 10:13.52 | recluse | lol, definitely |
| 10:20.18 | Arrowmaster | oh fuck yeah FMA:B 50 was epic and 51 should be epic as well next week |
| 10:20.47 | Arrowmaster | been waiting for this part for a year |
| 10:24.00 | foxlit | 50? Title, please. |
| 10:25.40 | Arrowmaster | Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood |
| 10:25.47 | foxlit | episode, that is. |
| 10:26.38 | Arrowmaster | A disturbance in Central is the episode title |
| 10:30.47 | Arrowmaster | now to go catch up on the last two chapters of the manga |
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| 11:15.58 | Fisker | Shadowed |
| 11:16.05 | Fisker | i'm going to demand a refund |
| 11:19.32 | Wobin | woohoo! |
| 11:19.35 | Wobin | we're not dead! |
| 11:19.45 | Fisker | shit |
| 11:19.50 | Wobin | http://twitter.com/CERN/status/11302425044 |
| 11:20.00 | Fisker | did they discover warp speed yet? |
| 11:20.05 | Fisker | also i hate twitter so gtfo |
| 11:20.29 | Fisker | also |
| 11:20.30 | Fisker | !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 11:20.33 | Wobin | http://webcast.cern.ch/lhcfirstphysics/ |
| 11:21.32 | Fisker | old |
| 11:22.21 | Fisker | in the meantime americans are busy fighting over public health care |
| 11:22.25 | Fisker | that was the perfect plan |
| 11:22.37 | Fisker | implement health care so we didn't have retards complaining over LHC |
| 11:22.38 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 11:24.16 | Fisker | more lag Wobin |
| 11:24.17 | Fisker | please |
| 11:24.31 | Wobin | floods Fisker |
| 11:25.11 | Fisker | omg he's physically leaving her |
| 11:25.12 | Fisker | :( |
| 11:25.18 | Fisker | wow physics! |
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| 11:38.35 | Fisker | attaches a bomb to Wobin |
| 11:45.45 | foxlit | Fisker: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!< "First time in the history!!!!!!!!!!!! World record!!!!!!!!" |
| 11:48.53 | Fisker | old |
| 11:49.47 | mikma | no, you aren't |
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| 11:55.48 | harl | grüße |
| 11:57.00 | Kalroth | dryhumps Fisker. |
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| 12:21.52 | mikma | anyone (this does not include fisker) knows any good sites that explain about torchlight + vanquisher builds |
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| 13:06.04 | alestane | tackle-hugs Lopeppeppy. |
| 13:06.32 | Lopeppeppy | No guarantee I have the brain power for multi-tasking, but alone is lonely! |
| 13:06.36 | Lopeppeppy | Hiya, alestane. |
| 13:06.44 | Cairenn | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 13:07.09 | alestane | Busy Peppy is busy. |
| 13:07.09 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Cairenn. |
| 13:07.16 | Lopeppeppy | Project due April 2! |
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| 13:08.43 | batrick | http://asset.soup.io/asset/0754/5221_4c47.gif |
| 13:08.46 | batrick | lawwwwwwwwwwwwwl |
| 13:11.02 | alestane | I'm not sure I'd call that "lawl". |
| 13:11.23 | krka | poor bird :( |
| 13:11.24 | nevcairiel | i thought i saw another one of those were he got boobs |
| 13:11.25 | alestane | The text makes it rather disturbing. |
| 13:11.38 | batrick | whatever |
| 13:11.52 | nevcairiel | krka: have to feed the snake either way |
| 13:11.53 | krka | would be funny if the bird was a tit |
| 13:13.19 | olafski | kinda glad I didn't watch this to the end |
| 13:13.21 | foxlit | The poor bird didn't stand a chance. |
| 13:13.23 | olafski | if there was an end |
| 13:14.10 | nevcairiel | the bird gets eaten |
| 13:14.16 | olafski | I figured |
| 13:14.23 | olafski | well, good thing I didn't get to see it then |
| 13:14.36 | foxlit | I demand high-speed camera footage. |
| 13:14.45 | nevcairiel | indeed, the snake is too fast |
| 13:15.48 | alestane | They're supposed to be. |
| 13:15.59 | mikma | yes, snakes are fast |
| 13:17.30 | alestane | For that critical 2% of the time, anyway. The other 98% they're pretty slow. |
| 13:17.52 | Wobin | well, they only need to be fast for 2% of the time =P |
| 13:31.05 | alestane | > "No, I was born Namaste Butterfly Spirit O'Hare." |
| 13:31.05 | alestane | < "Hippie parents! Did they pay for your therapy?" |
| 13:46.16 | DWSR | alestane: Context? |
| 13:47.30 | DWSR | batrick: That's funny rof. |
| 13:47.45 | DWSR | rofl* |
| 13:48.43 | DWSR | http://questionablecontent.net/ |
| 13:50.09 | Thrae | Oh right, Tuesday, downtime. |
| 13:50.12 | DWSR | ^ |
| 13:50.15 | DWSR | I /cry'ed. |
| 13:55.07 | Thrae | Hmm, I was thinking of using Clique to allow Left-Clicks to quickly roll Rejuvs on people, but now I think I should make it something like ALT+Left-Click or such. So when I quickly want to cast lots of Rejuvs I just hold down a key. |
| 13:55.21 | Thrae | I think I'll screw myself up if I can't target with left-click as a healer. |
| 13:57.02 | DanielAstbury | clique is awsome |
| 13:57.24 | DanielAstbury | I use it with all of my heals/dispells/abilities |
| 13:59.12 | olafski | it's all about getting used to it I'd say |
| 13:59.15 | Lopeppeppy | I adore Clique. |
| 13:59.16 | DWSR | Trhae: You should just bind all of your heals and dispells to Clique combos and then not worry about targetting. |
| 13:59.19 | DWSR | Thrae* |
| 13:59.21 | olafski | I thought not being able to right click would be annoying too |
| 13:59.23 | olafski | but I got used to that :P |
| 13:59.31 | DWSR | It's just a learning curve. |
| 13:59.53 | DWSR | You just need to keep at it for a few days in a couple of heroics with guildies. |
| 14:00.03 | DWSR | That's how I got used to Blood tanking. |
| 14:00.43 | alestane | http://askdreldritch.com/comic054.html , DWSR |
| 14:00.46 | DWSR | If you fuck something up a) nothing hits hard so no one's in serious danger of getting gibbed and b) People can pop CCs. |
| 14:02.06 | DWSR | alestane: Hehe. |
| 14:02.58 | alestane | A friend of mine introduced me to it this weekend. Still deciding if I like it or not. |
| 14:03.02 | DWSR | rofl, this comic's awesome. *subscribes* |
| 14:06.25 | DWSR | http://askdreldritch.com/comic008.html |
| 14:06.31 | DWSR | Trollercoaster. |
| 14:09.48 | DWSR | Someone been linking the good ones in here? |
| 14:09.53 | DWSR | http://askdreldritch.com/comic021.html <-- Because this is class. |
| 14:16.02 | DWSR | http://askdreldritch.com/comic039.html |
| 14:20.37 | foxlit | lua> 3538944*16384/2^31 |
| 14:20.40 | lua_bot | foxlit: 27 |
| 14:21.27 | foxlit | lua> 3538944/100*13/3600 |
| 14:21.27 | lua_bot | foxlit: 127.7952 |
| 14:21.46 | foxlit | exponential complexity be damned. |
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| 14:42.08 | kneeki | LHC web cast! http://webcast.cern.ch/lhcfirstphysics/? (lots of nerds standing around atm) |
| 14:42.14 | kneeki | Morning everyone :) |
| 14:43.22 | Lopeppeppy | heyo |
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| 14:50.17 | Fisker | kneeki the LHC was the end of our civilization |
| 14:50.22 | Fisker | we just don't know yet because they've put us in tubes etc. |
| 14:50.29 | kneeki | Ah |
| 14:50.34 | Fisker | we're just dreaming :( |
| 14:50.38 | alestane | I remember the first post I saw from a grad student who was interning there. It started with a photo of him standing in front of some safety door wearing a "Science: It works, bitches" shirt. |
| 14:50.40 | kneeki | ... I wana fly |
| 14:50.42 | Fisker | also we're a 9v battery now |
| 14:50.53 | kneeki | and have super kung-fu knowledge without any form of effort to learn it |
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| 14:51.28 | Fisker | yeah |
| 14:52.36 | Grum | sits on Fisker and wraps him in bacon |
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| 14:57.56 | Fisker | Grum |
| 14:59.15 | cog|away | FISKER |
| 14:59.43 | Fisker | cogwheel! |
| 15:00.23 | Fisker | the world didn't blow up |
| 15:00.25 | Fisker | so now what? |
| 15:00.43 | Lopeppeppy | Try harder. |
| 15:00.43 | cogwheel | party like it's 2099 imo |
| 15:00.55 | Grum | shoots Fisker with a 3.5TeV proton |
| 15:01.36 | Fisker | anything interesting yet? |
| 15:01.41 | Fisker | Or does it take months+ |
| 15:01.42 | Fisker | ? |
| 15:01.56 | Grum | afaik they havent seen the higgs boson particle no hehe |
| 15:02.16 | Grum | then again, they also said they needed/wanted 14TeV collisions for that |
| 15:02.50 | Fisker | Grum |
| 15:03.54 | nevcairiel | needs moar electron volts! |
| 15:04.40 | Grum | quite amazing they did it :) |
| 15:05.15 | Fisker | so when can they blow up the world? |
| 15:05.46 | Grum | i think it goes offline for a year (or 2) in 2011 to then afterwards operate at the full 7TeV capacity |
| 15:06.14 | nevcairiel | P is the new T |
| 15:06.36 | Grum | they are going for Ps? :P |
| 15:07.11 | nevcairiel | dunno, but everything is T already these days |
| 15:07.23 | Fisker | TeV= TeraVolt or? :P |
| 15:07.34 | Grum | TeraElectronVolt |
| 15:07.46 | olafski | 1 TeV: A million million electronvolts, or 1.602Ã10â7 J, about the kinetic energy of a flying mosquito[6] |
| 15:07.48 | Grum | # 7 TeV: an energy at which the opposing particle beams collided at the Large Hadron Collider on March 30, 2010 |
| 15:07.51 | Grum | # 14 TeV: The 'Designed' collision energy of protons at the Large Hadron Collider. |
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| 15:11.37 | Grum | somewhat scary, apparently they already noticed more particles than they thought existed hehe |
| 15:16.36 | Fisker | :o? |
| 15:17.08 | DWSR | http://askdreldritch.com/comic175.html]\ |
| 15:18.05 | Fisker | why do you want me to blow you up DWSR ? |
| 15:18.10 | cogwheel | http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/03/30/wocka-wocka-wocka-mimas-wocka-wocka/ |
| 15:18.16 | DWSR | Fisker: I'd love for you to blow me... |
| 15:18.28 | Fisker | gay |
| 15:18.39 | cogwheel | ^ |
| 15:19.10 | Fisker | awesome cogwheel |
| 15:19.13 | DWSR | cogwheel: Rofl |
| 15:19.35 | Fisker | So how is the world post-apocalyptic cogwheel ? |
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| 15:20.48 | Fisker | hey ckknight |
| 15:20.56 | DWSR | Fisker |
| 15:21.06 | ckknight | hey Fisker |
| 15:32.42 | Fisker | how is it in this post-apocalyptic world? |
| 15:37.00 | kneeki | I really hope Blizzard gives Warlocks green fire :( |
| 15:37.57 | cogwheel | Fisker: post-apocalyptic worlds just aren't the same without Don LaFontaine |
| 15:38.12 | Fisker | maybe |
| 15:40.31 | alestane | My cohorts have been begging for it for at least four years, kneeki. I wouldn't hold your breath. |
| 15:40.45 | kneeki | I know... It just makes me sad |
| 15:40.51 | kneeki | Did they ever say why? |
| 15:41.05 | alestane | ...they already made red fire, and it works fine? |
| 15:41.28 | kneeki | blegh |
| 15:41.32 | alestane | I have nothing against green fire myself, but I don't hunger for it. |
| 15:43.08 | alestane | If there were a glyph that, say, caused 10% of the damage from warlock fire spells to ignore damage absorption/immunity and turned them green as a side effect, that would make sense to me. |
| 15:43.30 | kneeki | that'd be neat |
| 15:43.32 | alestane | Or whatever number or effect the designers found suitable. |
| 15:43.41 | Lopeppeppy | is hungry! |
| 15:43.51 | DWSR | kneeki: It'll never happen. |
| 15:43.55 | alestane | I'm all in favor of glyphs having cosmetic effects besides their game effects. |
| 15:43.57 | kneeki | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m5TuxdkfkE <- most awesome ever |
| 15:44.04 | alestane | feeds Lopeppeppy. |
| 15:44.09 | DWSR | kneeki: It's like Jaraxxus was taunting warlocks. |
| 15:44.13 | Fisker | i could just blow you up though |
| 15:44.14 | DWSR | All he casts is green fire. |
| 15:44.18 | kneeki | DWSR: I KNOW |
| 15:44.23 | kneeki | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:44.26 | DWSR | Even the Severed Essences in ICC cast Green rain of Fire. |
| 15:44.28 | DWSR | like wtf? |
| 15:45.20 | DWSR | So it's not like the spell effects don't exist in the game. |
| 15:45.29 | DWSR | Chaos Bolt is green, you can make rain of fire green. |
| 15:45.36 | DWSR | HELLO, FEL FIRE? |
| 15:45.43 | kneeki | and.. |
| 15:45.46 | kneeki | Rain of Chaos bolt |
| 15:45.48 | kneeki | ... |
| 15:45.50 | kneeki | I WANT THAT |
| 15:45.53 | DWSR | amen. |
| 15:45.58 | DWSR | Ignores damage absorption effects. |
| 15:46.04 | kneeki | lol |
| 15:46.32 | DWSR | kneeki: WIN |
| 15:47.05 | DWSR | kneeki: THAT'S FUCKING AWESOMe. |
| 15:47.12 | kneeki | The youtube link? |
| 15:47.21 | DWSR | Yeah. |
| 15:47.27 | kneeki | :D |
| 15:48.14 | kneeki | kids are great when they do nerdy things :D |
| 15:48.17 | DWSR | I know. |
| 15:48.23 | DWSR | Dude, I wish my school did neat shit like that. |
| 15:48.28 | kneeki | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:48.35 | DWSR | I love the sound-reactive lights they have going on. |
| 15:48.52 | kneeki | ya and her dress |
| 15:48.59 | kneeki | lol cutest ever |
| 15:49.06 | DWSR | yeah |
| 15:49.11 | DWSR | That's so fucking win |
| 15:49.27 | DWSR | MAYBE BLACK MESA |
| 15:49.31 | kneeki | lolol |
| 15:49.34 | DWSR | THAT WAS A JOKE HAHA FAT CHANCE |
| 15:50.02 | kneeki | Makes me wana play Portal again |
| 15:50.05 | kneeki | :) |
| 15:50.09 | DWSR | Any money that the only set of parents who get how purely awesome that is are the people video taping it. |
| 15:50.13 | DWSR | kneeki: can't wait for portal 2. |
| 15:50.19 | kneeki | same! |
| 15:50.25 | Cairenn | ^^ this |
| 15:50.40 | DWSR | lol |
| 15:50.54 | durcyn | pretty sure you can actually wait. |
| 15:51.01 | kneeki | shuturmouth |
| 15:51.03 | DWSR | ^ |
| 15:51.20 | DWSR | Waiting for Still Alive the second. |
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| 15:51.30 | DWSR | Portal 2 had better be all sorts of fepic. |
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| 15:51.40 | DWSR | oh hai ZorbaTHut |
| 15:52.02 | ZorbaTHut | yo |
| 15:53.53 | DWSR | Just mashing up some tunes waiting for the servers to come back up |
| 15:54.04 | kneeki | http://www.filefront.com/8790378/Portal-End-Credits-Song/ |
| 15:54.08 | Fisker | i could blow you up ZorbaTHut |
| 15:54.10 | kneeki | my new iphone ringer |
| 15:54.13 | kneeki | teeheee |
| 15:54.16 | DWSR | Hopefully they fix the annoying issues with "logged in and finished loading yet not zoning into the game world" |
| 15:55.10 | ZorbaTHut | I wonder how many kWh I wasted by leaving WoW running over the weekend |
| 15:55.23 | Fisker | lols @ DWSR |
| 15:55.35 | DWSR | lol, doing what? |
| 15:55.37 | DWSR | Scanning the AH? |
| 15:55.55 | ZorbaTHut | no, just with the client open |
| 15:55.59 | ZorbaTHut | dragon flying around roaring every minute |
| 15:56.20 | Fisker | sure it's every minute? |
| 15:56.38 | ZorbaTHut | probably somewhere around there |
| 16:02.58 | DWSR | GAH |
| 16:03.02 | DWSR | MAINTENANCE RAWR |
| 16:03.32 | Lopeppeppy | Hoppy Twosdaze. |
| 16:14.03 | DWSR | hippe nude bear, amirite? |
| 16:14.06 | DWSR | hippie* |
| 16:16.04 | DWSR | Can someone explain to me the plot behind AC1 and AC2? |
| 16:16.15 | DWSR | I got about 30% through AC1 before it bored me to tears. |
| 16:16.49 | Cide | sure |
| 16:16.59 | Cide | n races are fighting for dominance over a world |
| 16:17.46 | Cide | there is a 90% probability that "humans" and "dwarves" are both in {race_1, race_2, ..., race_n} |
| 16:17.55 | DWSR | rofl |
| 16:21.16 | Cide | research shows that n=4 and humans are a playable race |
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| 16:22.35 | Cairenn | station |
| 16:22.41 | Cide | station |
| 16:22.44 | cogwheel | station |
| 16:22.47 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa. |
| 16:22.54 | Cide | cccc-combo breaker |
| 16:22.56 | cogwheel | c-c-c-combo breaker |
| 16:23.01 | Cairenn | lol |
| 16:23.07 | Lunessa | Station, my excellent friends. Party on, Dudes. |
| 16:23.08 | cogwheel | and it really was C C C |
| 16:23.22 | Cairenn | so did you get any sleep? |
| 16:23.29 | Cairenn | cogwheel: indeed it was! |
| 16:23.30 | Lunessa | Yeah, about 4 hours. You? |
| 16:23.39 | Lopeppeppy | I got about 3 hours total myself. |
| 16:23.42 | Cairenn | sleep? what is this thing of which you speak? |
| 16:23.45 | Lopeppeppy | Insomnia sucks it. |
| 16:24.09 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 16:24.39 | nichdu | Is it possible to add my own tabs to i.e. the inspection frame, and if yes, how? Didn't find anything at wowwiki or Google :/ |
| 16:24.43 | Torhal | WTS Roofies. |
| 16:26.08 | cogwheel | nichdu: you won't find something that specific |
| 16:27.03 | DWSR | ^ |
| 16:27.16 | DWSR | I don't think it's possible without replacing the inspection frame. |
| 16:27.52 | DWSR | Addons like Examiner just replace the frame all together, which is pretty destructive when dealing with addons like ElitistGroup which try to overlay information on top of the frame. |
| 16:27.58 | kneeki | I hate when I get the insomnia bug :( |
| 16:28.02 | kneeki | super frustrating |
| 16:28.17 | Lunessa | Cairenn & Lopeppeppy Yeah. You got that right. It sucks like a hoover vacuum cleaner. |
| 16:29.01 | Lopeppeppy | I wish, then it could at least do my housework for me. |
| 16:29.06 | nichdu | DWSR: that was my guess, thank you for confirming it. so I have to do it differently |
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| 16:29.25 | Lopeppeppy | I'm eating extra spicy chili to keep myself awake, how evil is that. |
| 16:29.32 | cogwheel | nichdu: sorry was interrupted mid-thought ... |
| 16:29.37 | DWSR | torrents AC2. |
| 16:29.47 | Dashkal | mmm, chili? Actually, that's a good dinner idea. |
| 16:30.00 | cogwheel | nichdu: what i meant was that you need to learn the more general topics of creating frames and attaching them to other frames |
| 16:30.17 | cogwheel | you're not going to find a cookbook "here's how you add a new frame to XYZ" |
| 16:30.47 | Lopeppeppy | Dashkal, it's easy to make, quick, spicy, fun. |
| 16:30.58 | Lopeppeppy | Also keeps Peppy awake with heartburn. |
| 16:31.10 | nichdu | Well, the general problem is, adding this tab-button to the frame |
| 16:31.17 | Dashkal | Yeah, the first part sounds good, the second, not so much *comforts* insomnia sucks |
| 16:31.53 | KarlKFI|work | wants chili |
| 16:32.08 | DWSR | is reminded of how hungry he is. |
| 16:32.09 | Lopeppeppy | I have leftovers Karl, comeon over. And leftover cornbread too. |
| 16:32.10 | Dashkal | also, I abuse commas |
| 16:32.11 | DWSR | THANKS |
| 16:32.23 | DWSR | Thanks Lopeppeppy |
| 16:32.49 | Lopeppeppy | What, you control your own appetite dude. If hungry, nibble on vegetables until mealtime. |
| 16:33.01 | kneeki | Dashkal: I do as well, since I don't know when to use a semi-colon |
| 16:33.38 | Dashkal | I probably should have just split that into a couple sentances. |
| 16:33.50 | Fisker | oh my |
| 16:33.56 | Fisker | Blizzard endorses WoWMatrix! |
| 16:33.58 | Fisker | ;D |
| 16:33.58 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=12947096704&sid=1&pageNo=46#909 |
| 16:34.45 | Cairenn | umm, no? |
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| 16:35.08 | Lopeppeppy | Oh dear, of course now everyone is going to believe that because it's in blue. *bangs head off desk* |
| 16:35.34 | Cairenn | acknowledging that people use it isn't the same thing as endorsing it |
| 16:35.47 | Cairenn | and they're actually slamming it, tbh |
| 16:36.55 | Lopeppeppy | I agree, but I'm just seeing it through sheeple eyes. |
| 16:36.59 | Cairenn | nod |
| 16:37.49 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: Chili & Cornbread? Tell me you have a Pepsi and I'll never leave! |
| 16:39.02 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2010/03/yow_yow_sexy_link_cosplay_acti.php |
| 16:39.16 | Dashkal | passes Lunessa a Pepsi. Canadian no less. |
| 16:39.30 | Lopeppeppy | I does not drink the soda pops, Lunessa, but I would buy you one just for guest-right. |
| 16:39.38 | Lunessa | :D |
| 16:39.49 | Lunessa | Dashkal: Made with sugar, not HFCS? |
| 16:40.03 | Dashkal | Yep yep |
| 16:40.13 | Lunessa | Well, that's tasty. :) |
| 16:40.19 | Cairenn | hence the emphasis on Canadian |
| 16:40.40 | Cairenn | we still use the real stuff |
| 16:41.09 | Dashkal | The funny thing is I don't actually taste that much of a difference. My palette isn't sensitive enough I guess. Or they're that good at matching it. |
| 16:41.14 | Lopeppeppy | Cannot has. *sniff* |
| 16:41.26 | Lunessa | Cairenn: Canada has three things going for it my view; Pepsi made with sugar, Trees in Toronto, and a red-headed webmistress. ;) |
| 16:41.39 | Cairenn | *giggle* |
| 16:41.56 | nicoli_s | and bacon |
| 16:42.16 | Lunessa | nicoli_s: Nah, the bacon there isn't that different. |
| 16:42.40 | nicoli_s | well i dunno how it is there, but canda is in the name of canadian bacon and its delicious |
| 16:42.58 | Lopeppeppy | Canada has Cairenn, my best friend Sunstarr, and OTC medicines that actually work! |
| 16:43.13 | Dashkal | Oh god, Canadian back bacon is ambrosia |
| 16:43.32 | nicoli_s | mmm that makes me want some ambrosia |
| 16:43.41 | nicoli_s | delicious fruity mixture |
| 16:45.30 | Lunessa | Canada does have more places that will serve peameal bacon too, but... it's all bacon, and everyone loves bacon. |
| 16:47.35 | Lunessa | http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2010/03/it-no-longer-does-everything-no-more-linux-on-playstation-3.ars |
| 16:51.09 | Lopeppeppy | I want chocolate. Cannot have!!! |
| 16:52.49 | Dashkal | Sony got sick of taking a loss on those supercomputer clusters |
| 16:52.53 | DanielAstbury | hahaha consoles suck :) |
| 16:54.37 | Dashkal | Yes, yes they do. And more publishers are wanting to drop the PC. |
| 16:55.11 | Dashkal | Somewhere along the way control seems to have become more valuable than total profits... |
| 16:55.15 | Ackis | which is stupid because the xbox is using a directx9 card whereas we're on directx12 or 100000 on the PC ;) |
| 16:55.30 | Ackis | but what's funny is on the xbox you own your games whereas the PC you just license them |
| 16:55.39 | Dashkal | snorts |
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| 16:55.58 | Dashkal | No, no you don't. You have less rights on the xbox. This is why thye try to jail mod chip makers |
| 16:56.12 | NightHawkTheSan1 | o_0 wierd, i wasn't in this channel... |
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| 16:56.33 | DanielAstbury | the only reason i dislike consoles is because they are extremely restricting. On a computer, you have the power do do almost anything you like |
| 16:56.42 | Ackis | they ban them from xbox live because it violates the ToS, modding your xbox isn't illegal, nor do you get jail time... if you pirate games then it's different :P |
| 16:56.50 | Ackis | afk meeting again :P |
| 16:57.20 | Dashkal | Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo are trying very hard to change that 'isn't illegal' part. |
| 16:57.46 | Cide | not sony atm |
| 16:57.53 | Cide | bluray > * |
| 16:58.04 | Dashkal | Oh? They backed down? |
| 16:58.11 | Cide | dunno? |
| 16:58.15 | Dashkal | I think nintendo is the worst of them. *cries that his favorite franchizes are nintendo only* |
| 16:58.15 | Cide | I have no real facts |
| 16:58.30 | Cide | I mean |
| 16:58.36 | DanielAstbury | why do console makers care about piracy at all? unless they make a substantial profit on selling games i can't think of any reason |
| 16:58.36 | Cide | the real problem isn't modding, is it? |
| 16:58.40 | Cide | it's mods that allow pirated discs |
| 16:58.48 | Cide | or maybe that's possible without modding? |
| 16:58.53 | Cide | has never done any console modding |
| 16:58.59 | ZorbaTHut | daniel, they do |
| 16:59.11 | Dashkal | They care because it's part of what sells them to gave publishers |
| 16:59.12 | DanielAstbury | oh |
| 16:59.17 | ZorbaTHut | also, console makers and console publishers are very closely intertwined - what's good for one tends to be good for the other. |
| 16:59.34 | Cide | don't listen to him |
| 16:59.37 | Cide | he's a microsoft spy |
| 16:59.50 | Dashkal | Given the obsession about DRM, it's more and more looking like control over the product > stopping piracy. |
| 16:59.55 | Dashkal | Given that DRM is an abject failure |
| 17:00.10 | ZorbaTHut | dashkal, yeah, I can't argue with that. It's stopped being about making any financial sense and has turned into crazy control-freak shit. |
| 17:00.27 | ZorbaTHut | "I'll throw away a thousand customers if it keeps one person from pirating my game!", etc. |
| 17:01.06 | Dashkal | I can't help but wonder why their shareholders keep putting up with it. You don't need a technical background to read teh headline "New Ubisoft DRM cracked on day one". Shouldn't they be questioning teh profitability of this? |
| 17:03.06 | DWSR | No |
| 17:03.16 | DWSR | DRM is a scary acronym. |
| 17:03.19 | DWSR | What is DRM? |
| 17:03.22 | DWSR | What does it mean? |
| 17:03.30 | DWSR | Can it be a GOOD thing that the DRM was cracked on Day one? |
| 17:03.57 | Dashkal | What they should be asking is "Can it be a good thing that this tech we just spent millions on was defeated in 24 hours?" |
| 17:04.06 | DWSR | People, as has been made overabundantly clear, are fucking stupid. |
| 17:04.16 | DWSR | Dashkal: People don't know what the DRM cost. |
| 17:04.28 | Dashkal | If the shareholders don't know that, they have bigger issues. |
| 17:04.34 | DWSR | Most people who invest in Ubisoft probably don't know what the fuck DRM is. |
| 17:04.50 | Arathros | i play las vegas 2 hacked version lol |
| 17:05.04 | Dashkal | I think it's dangerous to assume that the majority of investors aren't paying any attention. Especially right now. |
| 17:05.40 | DWSR | They're not,. |
| 17:05.41 | Cide | most people who invest in ubisoft probably don't know what the fuck *. |
| 17:05.44 | DWSR | Otherwise Ubisoft would be bankrupt. |
| 17:05.44 | Arathros | DRm and copy protection in general is a dam waste |
| 17:06.31 | Fisker | As long as DRM costs are above 0 it's a waste |
| 17:06.36 | Dashkal | Not necessarally. Ubisoft is still profitable. |
| 17:07.05 | Dashkal | Doing something stupid, yes, but still in the black |
| 17:07.24 | ZorbaTHut | it's not like investors can really bankrupt the company |
| 17:07.41 | ZorbaTHut | the company's available resources have little to do with the stock price unless they're actually selling more shares |
| 17:07.57 | Arathros | well copy protection and all that shit.. its craked within hours. no matter what. |
| 17:08.04 | Fisker | btw DWSR before Securom removed it they listed prices at .25⬠per sold copy |
| 17:09.30 | DWSR | meh. |
| 17:09.43 | Dashkal | anyway, time to head to the office. laters |
| 17:09.51 | DWSR | I think the real thing is that companies like Ubisoft waren't adjusting to the changing marketplace. |
| 17:10.24 | Fisker | as much as i hate DLC, it's actually a smart way to do business |
| 17:10.28 | DWSR | ^ |
| 17:10.44 | Fisker | god knows i'd pay .99⬠for a DLC in Just Cause 2 that would give me unlimited grapple hook strength |
| 17:10.47 | Fisker | even if i can use a trainer for it |
| 17:14.40 | DWSR | not even that |
| 17:14.47 | DWSR | Just stuff like additional mission in ME2. |
| 17:14.57 | DWSR | (Even though I'm really glad the Hammerhead DLC was free. It's shit). |
| 17:16.46 | DWSR | I think Valve's got it right, though |
| 17:16.57 | DWSR | It doesn't matter how long it takes them to develop Portal 2 or HL2EP3. |
| 17:17.06 | DWSR | When it drops, people quit their jobs to play it. |
| 17:17.14 | ZorbaTHut | I've said before that I wish companies had ultra-pre-order options |
| 17:17.22 | DWSR | "ultra"? |
| 17:17.23 | ZorbaTHut | like, let me give valve $100 right now, in return for their next $120 of games |
| 17:17.29 | ZorbaTHut | I don't care what games those are |
| 17:17.33 | ZorbaTHut | I don't even need them to be announced |
| 17:17.38 | DWSR | rofl |
| 17:17.40 | ZorbaTHut | I already know I'm going to buy them, so let me give you guys money already |
| 17:18.17 | DWSR | Yeah. |
| 17:18.22 | DWSR | That's so true. |
| 17:18.46 | DWSR | I'd pretty much just give Valve my CC info and say "Here. Every time you release a game, just charge me what you think is fair and put a copy on my Steam account" |
| 17:19.03 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, pretty much. |
| 17:19.25 | ZorbaTHut | Valve wants to make Flopsy's Happy Adventures in Carrottown, I am going to play the fuck out of Flopsy's Happy Adventures in Carrottown. |
| 17:22.36 | DWSR | Yep. |
| 17:22.46 | DWSR | Valve has to be my #1 favourite developer of all time mostly because they just do it right. |
| 17:22.58 | DWSR | They're like "Fuck development time. It's done when we SAY it's done." |
| 17:24.09 | DWSR | http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time |
| 17:25.10 | ZorbaTHut | haha. Today: Tonight at 11:49 PM, Pacific time (This was the actual time the TF2 Public Beta went live.) |
| 17:25.17 | DWSR | yeah |
| 17:28.08 | Fisker | takes a bomb |
| 17:28.15 | Fisker | dun dun dun |
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| 17:30.39 | DanielAstbury | ... |
| 17:30.42 | Lunessa | Cheeseburger Dorritos - Not just funky, NASTY. DO NOT EAT. |
| 17:30.50 | DanielAstbury | EU servers down? |
| 17:32.01 | Lopeppeppy | Ooof, good to know Lunessa. |
| 17:32.14 | Fisker | no DanielAstbury |
| 17:32.36 | DanielAstbury | i can't get into khadgar |
| 17:32.41 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: So foul I threw away the 1/2 a chip left from my first bite. And had to eat something else to take the taste out of my mouth. |
| 17:32.57 | DanielAstbury | but i can get into any other server :/ |
| 17:34.18 | Cide | so that answers your question |
| 17:34.26 | Cide | EU servers aren't down, just yours. |
| 17:34.29 | Fisker | same here DanielAstbury |
| 17:34.37 | DanielAstbury | balls |
| 17:35.58 | Fisker | yay |
| 17:36.15 | Fisker | http://blog.chromium.org/2010/03/bringing-improved-support-for-adobe.html <-sweet |
| 17:37.28 | DWSR | didn't Adobe EOL Flash? |
| 17:37.48 | nevcairiel | why would they? |
| 17:38.47 | NightHawkTheSane | that actually is pretty sweet |
| 17:39.06 | industrial | NightHawkTheSane: word :D |
| 17:39.29 | industrial | it also means that if IE doesnt jump in it will become legacy |
| 17:39.36 | industrial | (with the plugin standard) |
| 17:39.43 | Cide | lol |
| 17:39.45 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm kinda surprised how eaily chrome as nearly completely become my defacto browser on every platform. |
| 17:39.46 | Cide | good joke |
| 17:39.51 | industrial | ofcourse! |
| 17:39.52 | industrial | :D |
| 17:39.57 | Cide | ie has been legacy for years and it still is used |
| 17:40.37 | nevcairiel | industrial: IE hasnt been using the plugin standard all other browsers use anyway |
| 17:40.55 | industrial | oh. |
| 17:41.07 | nevcairiel | nearly every browser supports the old netscape plugin format, NPAPI or what its called |
| 17:41.12 | DWSR | US realms coming up |
| 17:41.12 | nevcairiel | IE uses activex plugins |
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| 17:47.48 | DWSR | hrm. |
| 17:48.16 | DWSR | 1) Are the battlegroups grouped by datacenter? 2) Are realms brought in batches by battlegroup? |
| 17:48.44 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, yes, no idea |
| 17:48.46 | Shirik | 3) Is DWSR collecting information for a DDoS? |
| 17:48.52 | Shirik | only time will tell |
| 17:48.52 | cogwheel | 1) yes 2) *shrug* |
| 17:48.54 | DWSR | Shirik: No. |
| 17:49.01 | Shirik | you could be lying! |
| 17:49.09 | DWSR | On the internet, I could be anything. |
| 17:49.16 | DWSR | Even a hyper-intelligent shade of purple. |
| 17:49.16 | Shirik | omg |
| 17:49.28 | Shirik | he's an FBI agent trying to see if _I_ am planning a DDoS |
| 17:49.31 | DWSR | ++ for those who get the reference. |
| 17:49.47 | Cide | ~google hyper-intelligent shade of purple. |
| 17:49.52 | Shirik | hitchhiker's guide |
| 17:49.55 | Fisker | you are purple |
| 17:49.56 | DWSR | ~Shirik++ |
| 17:50.05 | ZorbaTHut | well it almost sounds like you're trying to quote hitchhiker's guide |
| 17:50.05 | Fisker | hitchhiker's guide too then |
| 17:50.05 | DWSR | Which book? |
| 17:50.05 | Cide | purl is slo |
| 17:50.06 | Cide | slow |
| 17:50.10 | Cide | third |
| 17:50.12 | Fisker | give me -- |
| 17:50.12 | ZorbaTHut | except that in HHGTTG it's hyper-intelligent shade of blue |
| 17:50.21 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: I'm colourblind. |
| 17:50.25 | DWSR | purple=blue. |
| 17:50.29 | DWSR | So hihi fu |
| 17:50.29 | Fisker | words are not colors! |
| 17:50.38 | Shirik | fact: Colorblind people read "red" and "green" the same |
| 17:50.46 | Cide | YOU ARE LYING |
| 17:50.57 | Fisker | i was first again Shirik |
| 17:51.07 | DWSR | FUFUFUFUFUFUFUFU |
| 17:51.13 | Shirik | ~Fisker-- |
| 17:51.21 | Fisker | thank you |
| 17:51.24 | Dagmar | fact fail... |
| 17:51.25 | DWSR | I remember the first day I was in here. |
| 17:51.30 | NightHawkTheSane | ... sad as i am to say this.. Fisker: 1, Shirik: .5, DWSR: 0 |
| 17:51.33 | DWSR | And someone told me to give Fisker tons of + rep. |
| 17:51.33 | Cide | ~karma Fisker |
| 17:51.33 | purl | fisker has karma of 6 |
| 17:51.38 | DWSR | ~karma |
| 17:51.38 | purl | dwsr has karma of 1 |
| 17:51.43 | DWSR | FUFUFUF |
| 17:51.46 | DWSR | U |
| 17:51.47 | Cide | owned |
| 17:51.49 | Cide | pretty sure I win |
| 17:52.01 | NightHawkTheSane | ~karma Cide |
| 17:52.01 | purl | cide has karma of 9 |
| 17:52.06 | cogwheel | ~karma |
| 17:52.06 | purl | cogwheel has karma of 9 |
| 17:52.06 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 |
| 17:52.15 | cogwheel | ~karma Cairenn |
| 17:52.15 | purl | cairenn has karma of 12 |
| 17:52.21 | DWSR | She would. |
| 17:52.21 | cogwheel | pays to have your nick start with C |
| 17:52.23 | Cide | she has boobs, no contest |
| 17:52.26 | DWSR | ^ |
| 17:52.30 | NightHawkTheSane | ~karma |
| 17:52.30 | purl | nighthawkthesane has karma of 7 |
| 17:52.34 | Dagmar | There's blue-green color blindness as well. |
| 17:52.35 | NightHawkTheSane | :o |
| 17:52.50 | Cide | there's greyscale color blindness as well |
| 17:52.56 | Cairenn | heh |
| 17:53.08 | DWSR | Not that we don't love you Cairenn. :D |
| 17:53.13 | Shirik | There's also black-white color blindness |
| 17:53.15 | Cairenn | no worries |
| 17:53.17 | Shirik | but we usually call that "blind" |
| 17:53.32 | Cide | hmm, do we? |
| 17:53.38 | DWSR | don't we? |
| 17:53.44 | Cide | not to Cairenn |
| 17:54.00 | DWSR | Who said I was referring to that? |
| 17:54.01 | Cide | does the incapability of telling the difference between black and white imply that one cannot tell the difference between other "colors"? |
| 17:54.10 | Shirik | I think so |
| 17:54.16 | Cide | hmm yeah, probably |
| 17:54.27 | Shirik | since black and white are just the other colors put together, no? |
| 17:54.28 | Cide | black is no light, white is "all" light |
| 17:54.34 | NightHawkTheSane | Cide: likely, but probably unknown, as it doesn't exist in nature outside of complete blindness. :P |
| 17:54.35 | Cide | physically |
| 17:54.40 | Dagmar | covers his eyes |
| 17:54.48 | Cide | white is a collection of other wavelengths |
| 17:54.59 | DWSR | Your mom is a collection of other wavelengths. |
| 17:55.38 | Cide | if you cannot distinguish it from no light at all, you can't distinguish any single component of the light from no light at all |
| 17:55.46 | Cide | so that's probably correct |
| 17:56.16 | Shirik | ok wtf: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=352991851&oldid=352986169 |
| 17:56.31 | kneeki | Shirik: Haha |
| 17:57.05 | Cide | you're too sophisticated to use the word vandal |
| 17:57.36 | Shirik | I didn't even do anything to that guy I don't know how he found my page |
| 17:57.56 | Shirik | oh wait |
| 17:57.57 | Shirik | yes I did |
| 17:58.01 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dogfrogbog |
| 17:58.15 | DWSR | Finally, I am a World of Warcraft fan, and I play as a priest healer, and am totally shameless to admit this <-- LIES |
| 17:58.21 | DWSR | SLANEROUS LIES |
| 17:58.23 | Shirik | NOT LIES |
| 17:58.38 | DWSR | ALL WORLD OF WARCRAFT FANS ARE SHAMEFUL IN THEIR ADMISSION |
| 17:58.41 | DWSR | SLANDEROUS LIES |
| 18:00.02 | DWSR | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log/delete&page=Felix_Clinthorne <-- Shirik, can you pull up an old revision of this page? |
| 18:00.57 | Shirik | nope |
| 18:01.12 | Shirik | but um |
| 18:01.28 | Shirik | (13:40:30) (+BetacommandBot8) Stalked summary: "[[WP:AES|ââ Â]]Created page with 'Fag.'" (matched fag) used by [[User:Dogfrogbog]], edited [[Felix Clinthorne]]; Diff: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=352989016&rcid=363244503 |
| 18:01.33 | DWSR | rofl |
| 18:05.55 | Dagmar | We need to start having people killed for misusing words |
| 18:06.16 | DWSR | We need to start having people killed |
| 18:06.19 | Dagmar | "and am totally shameless to admit this" <-- dreadful |
| 18:06.41 | DWSR | Who the fuck IS Felix Clinthorne? |
| 18:09.16 | Fisker | i'm gonna become a double agent Shirik |
| 18:19.17 | Shirik | DWSR: Probably some random guy he hates |
| 18:19.57 | DWSR | PEople are so petty |
| 18:19.59 | DWSR | People* |
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| 18:32.16 | Lunessa | I read that whole discussion and I have this to say, "Shame on the lot of you." |
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| 18:33.10 | Shirik | what did I do Lunessa :( |
| 18:33.25 | Lunessa | Grammar fail. FAIL I SAY. |
| 18:33.31 | mitchnull | who broke wowi? |
| 18:35.06 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 18:35.14 | Fisker | i'm suspecting you of involvement in online trading |
| 18:35.20 | Fisker | you should give me your login details |
| 18:35.54 | Shirik | noty |
| 18:36.09 | Fisker | .jpg? |
| 18:36.52 | Shirik | .svg |
| 18:38.26 | Fisker | .jpg? |
| 18:40.01 | Fisker | .jpg it is |
| 18:41.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Is there anything that will let me re-order items in the windows task bar? |
| 18:41.57 | Fisker | mouse |
| 18:42.11 | Ackis | Fisker: you need to get twitter |
| 18:42.22 | Fisker | why Ackis ? |
| 18:42.29 | DWSR | NHTS: Windows 7 |
| 18:42.43 | NightHawkTheSane | DWSR: how about on XP? |
| 18:42.50 | Ackis | Fisker: because WobWork and bleeter were afriad you were on it |
| 18:42.53 | DWSR | NHTS: EOL'd. No longer relevant. |
| 18:42.55 | DWSR | plz2upgrade |
| 18:43.08 | NightHawkTheSane | DWSR: work machine, not my choice. |
| 18:43.19 | DWSR | If it's a work machine, you shouldn't be installing software on it. |
| 18:43.21 | jnwhiteh | bleeter: do you have a twitter account that isn't political? |
| 18:43.24 | Fisker | why would i be on twitter? |
| 18:43.50 | NightHawkTheSane | DWSR: .... i'm a software developer, I kind of need to install software on it to do my job. :P |
| 18:43.53 | Ackis | lol jnwhiteh |
| 18:43.56 | Fisker | DWSR you can't re-order items for existing software? |
| 18:44.04 | Ackis | jnwhiteh: he talked about kangaroos stealing nectarines from him once |
| 18:44.13 | NightHawkTheSane | DWSR: but that's entirely aside the point |
| 18:44.15 | jnwhiteh | Ackis: I know, but he completely fills my timeline most days |
| 18:44.18 | DWSR | NHTS: Work should have supplied all of the required software for your job. Everything past that is a security risk. |
| 18:44.25 | jnwhiteh | and I don't like unfollowing people if I don't have to. |
| 18:44.31 | NightHawkTheSane | DWSR: hahahaha... yeah. no. |
| 18:44.33 | DWSR | btw. |
| 18:44.38 | DWSR | You need to l2google |
| 18:44.47 | NightHawkTheSane | i've NEVER worked ANYWHERE where they managed to supply -every- tool I needed. |
| 18:44.48 | DWSR | ~google reorder taskbar items on XP |
| 18:44.48 | Ackis | jnwhiteh: I'm pretty spammy at times :P |
| 18:44.58 | alestane | That depends whether he's trying to reorder quick-launch icons or running programs, DWSR. |
| 18:45.10 | DWSR | alestane: Quick launch can be reordered by itself. |
| 18:45.23 | DWSR | alestane: Running programs require a TPP on XP and Vista. |
| 18:45.30 | DWSR | Taskbar Shuffle is the one you're really looking for, second hit. |
| 18:45.39 | DWSR | First hit is a forum thread which links to the second link |
| 18:45.40 | DWSR | So yeah. |
| 18:45.48 | Fisker | anyone else disappointed with the earth not blowing up or whatever? |
| 18:45.52 | NightHawkTheSane | fortunately, we're supposed to behaving a machine refresh in a few weeks, I'll probably put ubuntu or something on that machine, but for now xp it is.. *shrug* |
| 18:45.54 | DWSR | I should mock you openly for your lack of Google-fu. :P |
| 18:45.56 | Lopeppeppy | Nah, I like my earth. |
| 18:46.05 | NightHawkTheSane | DWSR: hey, mocking me for not googling is fair. :) |
| 18:46.59 | NightHawkTheSane | but it's cool, I just got mod_jk working properly, so I'm in a good mood. |
| 18:47.04 | NightHawkTheSane | (also: i hate tomcat. just fyi) |
| 18:47.10 | DWSR | Yeah. |
| 18:47.14 | DWSR | Tomcat's pretty rage-inducig. |
| 18:47.17 | DWSR | inducing* |
| 18:47.27 | DWSR | imo, Tomcat should be a talent in a warrior tree |
| 18:47.31 | Lunessa | Fisker: LHC didn't cause the end of the world. And you're sad? |
| 18:47.45 | durcyn | higgs boson travelled back in time to stop the end of the world, QED |
| 18:47.45 | DWSR | I would be. |
| 18:48.04 | DWSR | The end of the world would solve a lot of life's problems. |
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| 18:48.26 | DWSR | Thusly, I grieve. |
| 18:48.28 | alestane | I'm not sure I would say "solve" as much as "eliminate", DWSR. |
| 18:48.50 | DWSR | Elimination is a solution |
| 18:48.55 | DWSR | See Gaussian Elimination |
| 18:49.08 | DWSR | If the problem ceases to exist, it's not a problem anymore, now is it? |
| 18:49.22 | DWSR | Thus, whatever caused the problem to go away in the first place must be a solution! |
| 18:49.45 | alestane | It's not anything anymore, in that case. Eliminating problems by eliminating all potential is not a recommended approach. |
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| 18:50.02 | Lunessa | Unless you're a Dalek. |
| 18:50.12 | Mihau | I'mma compilin' my PHP! |
| 18:50.58 | DWSR | alestane: What's wrong with total annihilation as a solution to world hunger, besides all of the death? |
| 18:51.13 | industrial | all the death. |
| 18:51.14 | alestane | No-one's around to enjoy the lack of poverty? |
| 18:51.22 | Lopeppeppy | But there are tons of eggs to eat. |
| 18:51.28 | DWSR | That's not really a problem with the solution, now is it? :P |
| 18:51.42 | DWSR | Anyway, elimination the source of the problem is a perfectly valid solution |
| 18:51.48 | DWSR | See: Replacing faulty parts with new ones. |
| 18:52.05 | alestane | The problem with world hunger isn't the existence of hungry people, it's the hunger of existing people. |
| 18:52.17 | DWSR | Eliminating the potential for there to even be a problem is still valid. |
| 18:52.26 | DWSR | alestane: And if we make those people unexist? |
| 18:52.38 | DWSR | Poof, there's no hunger because there's no existing people to be hungry! |
| 18:52.48 | alestane | Then they aren't a problem. That doesn't mean the problem was solved. |
| 18:52.53 | DWSR | (Note: I'm not advocating anything. Really.) |
| 18:52.53 | Dagmar | Depending on how efficient we wanna be about it, both problems can be solved at the same time |
| 18:53.03 | alestane | I know, but you're still being an ass. |
| 18:53.08 | DWSR | Dagmar: I was thinking nuclear holocaust which destroys the entire planet. |
| 18:53.28 | Dagmar | Cannibalism. |
| 18:53.34 | DWSR | meh. |
| 18:53.35 | DWSR | Messy. |
| 18:53.37 | Lunessa | Anyone else reminded of "We Can Get Them For You Wholesale" by N. Gaiman? |
| 18:53.44 | Dagmar | Just gotta follow proper culinary procedures for disinfecting and preparing the meat |
| 18:53.49 | alestane | That's like saying that you can fix your carburetor by blowing up your car. |
| 18:54.02 | DWSR | Nuclear holocaust neatly solves global poverty and world hunger. Cannibalism only solves the latter. |
| 18:54.04 | alestane | "J. Swift's "A Modest Proposal," Lunessa. |
| 18:54.15 | Lunessa | Same general idea. |
| 18:54.46 | alestane | You don't have a broken car any more, voilá, problem solved! |
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| 18:54.59 | alestane | Admittedly, you don't have a car at all anymore. |
| 18:56.05 | alestane | Or the old "Are you a mathematician or a physicist" gag: |
| 18:56.05 | alestane | You have an empty pot, cold running water and a hot plate. Solve for hot water: |
| 18:56.14 | Lunessa | back after I finish patching my OS. |
| 18:56.51 | DWSR | alestane: I get the one solution, what's the other? |
| 18:57.06 | alestane | Well, both groups solve the first problem the same way. |
| 18:57.18 | alestane | The test is the second problem. |
| 18:57.36 | alestane | You have a pot full of cold water, cold running water and a hot plate. Solve for hot water: |
| 18:58.03 | DWSR | Ok, and? |
| 18:58.14 | alestane | What solution did you arrive at? |
| 18:58.23 | DWSR | Put the pot of water on the hot plate. |
| 18:58.30 | alestane | Then you are a physicist. |
| 18:58.49 | DWSR | Thank god. Pure mathematicians are pricks. |
| 18:58.52 | alestane | A mathematician empties the pot, thereby reducing the problem to one with a known solution. |
| 18:59.03 | DWSR | hehe |
| 19:01.46 | DWSR | bbiab |
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| 19:11.16 | DWSR | What T10 items drop out of VoA25? |
| 19:11.27 | DWSR | pants/hands? |
| 19:13.14 | Thunder_Child | L2wowhead |
| 19:13.40 | DWSR | Fair enough |
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| 19:19.34 | Aeyan | and yes, pants and hands |
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| 19:27.20 | Fisker | Thunder_Child |
| 19:27.51 | sylvanaar_atwork | lol all that effort to look like noreply@blizzard.com and the text has "If you have not use this email address register the World of Warcraft account." |
| 19:28.52 | Thunder_Child | Fisker |
| 19:29.10 | Fisker | well played Thunder_Child |
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| 19:45.00 | Lunessa | Well, that took longer than expected. |
| 19:45.11 | olafski | man I've got a great party.. 3 ninjapulling dps, even after I've let them all die they don't say a word |
| 19:45.56 | Shirik | this sounds like something out of a science fiction series |
| 19:46.07 | Shirik | ~wiki Proton Synchrotron Booster |
| 19:47.10 | Thunder_Child | L2Accelerator Shirik |
| 19:47.21 | Shirik | I'm sorry, I focus on things with a practical purpose |
| 19:47.33 | Thunder_Child | that is highly practical |
| 19:47.40 | Thunder_Child | unless you mean practical for you |
| 19:47.51 | Shirik | maybe it will become useful in 200 years |
| 19:47.57 | Thunder_Child | in which case you would still be wrong |
| 19:48.17 | Shirik | I don't care enough for that |
| 19:48.55 | Thunder_Child | just because you dont care, doesnt make it impractical |
| 19:49.24 | Thunder_Child | i dont have time to point out the things they have helped to. but as an fyi, people said the same thing about the space program |
| 19:49.41 | Thunder_Child | s/d to/d do/ |
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| 19:53.35 | ZorbaTHut | knowledge is always practical in the long run. |
| 19:53.56 | Shirik | disagree |
| 19:54.24 | Shirik | what benefit do you get from knowing that Jim Carey is an actor? |
| 19:54.41 | Shirik | Carrey* |
| 19:54.45 | ZorbaTHut | being less confused when people talk about Jim Carrey's acting career |
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| 19:55.08 | Shirik | I see no problem with being confused; I am all the time |
| 19:55.11 | Dashkal | Making money by hiring said actor for a movie. |
| 19:55.19 | Shirik | -_- |
| 19:55.20 | Shirik | I give up |
| 19:55.20 | ZorbaTHut | thus spending less of my time, and other people's time, asking for clarification. the world is therefore more efficient place. |
| 19:55.46 | Shirik | I just feel there's some bounds to what we really need to know about |
| 19:55.52 | Shirik | reference the omega particle |
| 19:56.04 | Shirik | not saying the LHC is going to blow up the world, but it's the same general concept |
| 19:56.30 | ZorbaTHut | while I'm half-joking about Jim Carrey, I feel like scientific knowledge is one of those things that really *is* always useful |
| 19:56.32 | Dashkal | Assuming there really is such a concept so dangerous meer knowledge of it is dangerous... We can only conjecture. |
| 19:56.53 | Dashkal | Note, by that I mean anybody knowing, not everybody knowing. |
| 19:56.53 | ZorbaTHut | I mean, just imagine how much of modern technology requires atomic-level effects |
| 19:57.03 | Dashkal | Restricting exact plans on making a nuke makes sense. |
| 19:57.28 | Dashkal | But it would still be very very useful if we ever have to nuke an asteroid. |
| 19:57.31 | ZorbaTHut | what if the omega particle ends up giving us ultracheap power, even better than fusion? what if it gives us a stardrive? what if it gives us super-efficient microcomputers? |
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| 19:57.45 | ZorbaTHut | we don't *know* what it'll give us, but the way science works, we'll probably get *something* out of it someday. |
| 19:58.09 | Dashkal | s/science/commerce/ Someone will learn to exploit it for cash, no matter how obscure. |
| 19:58.38 | Shirik | ZorbaTHut: the omega particle (at least the one I refer to) is a star trek concept |
| 19:58.46 | Shirik | though I believe it actually exists (but is not the same thing) |
| 19:58.51 | ZorbaTHut | shirik, my point stands :D |
| 19:59.09 | Shirik | the omega particle also can essentially blow up the universe |
| 19:59.13 | Torhal | "I believe in Vampires, but they're not really Vampires." |
| 19:59.15 | Shirik | should we still mess with it? |
| 19:59.17 | Torhal | scratches his head. |
| 19:59.34 | Shirik | I don't believe in toying with things we aren't even close to understanding |
| 19:59.44 | Dashkal | There's only one way to understand |
| 19:59.51 | Shirik | sure, but take small steps |
| 19:59.53 | ZorbaTHut | we should, because if well-funded laboratories don't, then someday a not-well-funded laboratory will |
| 20:00.15 | ZorbaTHut | as technology moves forward, stuff that's impractical now becomes commonplace. we're well under a century from people genetically engineering their kids in their basement. |
| 20:00.31 | ZorbaTHut | whether it's legal or not, whether we've done it under controlled conditions or not, it'll happen. |
| 20:00.32 | Dashkal | We have been. Fermilab -> CERN. And even the LHC itself is very slowly ramping up (if only due to flaws in the system forcing them to) |
| 20:01.00 | Gagorian | The money spent on LHC is so little compared to military spending for example that complaining about it is just silly |
| 20:01.11 | Gagorian | Not that military spending doesn't give technological advances too |
| 20:01.43 | Dashkal | True. I stand corrected. Commerce and War. Killing people in new ways drives plenty of new advances. |
| 20:02.20 | Shirik | I'm not complaining about the money, Gagorian |
| 20:02.23 | ZorbaTHut | argh, libcurl setup does literally thousands of test builds to bruteforce figure out the parameters in certain functions |
| 20:02.24 | ZorbaTHut | wtf |
| 20:02.27 | Shirik | I'm complaining about how applicable it is to current society |
| 20:02.35 | Shirik | ZorbaTHut: lol |
| 20:02.55 | Shirik | I think there's an xkcd comic about this |
| 20:02.55 | ZorbaTHut | shirik, what does it matter how applicable it is to current society? it's research. the point is to apply it to future society. |
| 20:02.57 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: At least it's thorough? |
| 20:03.09 | Shirik | Ah here it is http://xkcd.com/171/ |
| 20:03.10 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, I don't want it to be thorough, I want it to take less than half an hour on cygwin :( |
| 20:03.54 | Shirik | ok, I had a revelation |
| 20:03.57 | Shirik | I change my mind |
| 20:03.59 | Gagorian | Shirik: Hard to tell if it'll be useful before you actually do the research, but what science does today are the building blocks for the future |
| 20:04.05 | Shirik | I am no longer concerned about the applicability |
| 20:04.14 | Shirik | If we advance too quickly, I will be out of a job |
| 20:04.20 | Shirik | so I am rather concerned for job security |
| 20:04.21 | Gagorian | What's your job? |
| 20:04.24 | Shirik | is that a better argument? |
| 20:04.29 | ZorbaTHut | well, it's a more logical argument :) |
| 20:04.31 | Shirik | I'm a software engineer |
| 20:04.50 | ZorbaTHut | still, I feel like holding back *all of humanity* for the sake of your personal paycheck is a somewhat morally indefensible position ;) |
| 20:04.56 | batrick | more like n3rd engineer |
| 20:04.57 | Gagorian | I wouldn't be too worried about LHC putting you out of a job :D |
| 20:05.04 | Cide | Shirik is very good at his job |
| 20:05.05 | Shirik | batrick: I have a BS in CE! |
| 20:05.07 | Cide | *very* |
| 20:05.07 | Shirik | gah |
| 20:05.12 | Gagorian | s/LHC/the LHC/ |
| 20:05.27 | batrick | Shirik: wow me too! |
| 20:05.42 | Shirik | batrick: So I haven't completely joined the dark side |
| 20:05.43 | Gagorian | Besides, I've been at the LHC construction sites. It's a damn impressive project if nothing else |
| 20:05.53 | Shirik | LHC could easily put me out of a job |
| 20:05.58 | batrick | ya right |
| 20:06.07 | DWSR | Shirik. |
| 20:06.07 | Shirik | when we start inventing bioneural gelpacks instead of circuitry |
| 20:06.10 | batrick | software hackers will always be needed |
| 20:06.12 | Shirik | all of my abilities go to hell |
| 20:06.13 | DWSR | You're going to put yourself out of a job. |
| 20:06.14 | Gagorian | Shirik is just trolling now! |
| 20:06.21 | Shirik | Gagorian :P |
| 20:06.46 | batrick | there's so many avenues in silicon we haven't gone down |
| 20:06.49 | batrick | we're fine shirik |
| 20:06.53 | Shirik | omg |
| 20:06.59 | Shirik | I worked with a 17-layer PCB recently |
| 20:07.02 | Shirik | it was sick |
| 20:07.28 | ZorbaTHut | shirik, so you're saying that you're not able to adapt to new job requirements? ;) |
| 20:07.38 | Shirik | I also think the EE that came up with that idea was either drunk, a moron, or knew way too much |
| 20:08.01 | Shirik | ZorbaTHut: Not many people can adapt to an entire field closing down |
| 20:08.24 | Shirik | but when that happens I guess I can teach the history of computers |
| 20:10.30 | Shirik | omg this is win |
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| 20:10.37 | Shirik | Peeps diorama contest: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/gallery/2010/03/29/GA2010032903934.html?hpid=artslot |
| 20:11.44 | Fisker | can you smuggle a copy of the GTX480 for me then Shirik ? |
| 20:11.49 | Shirik | noty |
| 20:11.52 | Fisker | .jpg? |
| 20:11.53 | Lopeppeppy | awww, how cute, it's UP! |
| 20:12.33 | Fisker | what's an it? |
| 20:12.50 | Lopeppeppy | Big ugly clown. |
| 20:13.16 | Fisker | backs the fuck up |
| 20:13.35 | Shirik | So.... one of the things I do on WP is monitor false positive reports where edits were automatically blocked because they were deemed not constructive, but the editor reports this was a mistake |
| 20:13.43 | Shirik | I read this report: "I was trying to make the website better, more cnstructive, and awesomer." |
| 20:13.53 | Shirik | Why, without even looking, do I think this is a hoax |
| 20:14.12 | Fisker | because you are a jerk and must be stopped? :( |
| 20:14.18 | Shirik | :( |
| 20:14.41 | batrick | oh ya |
| 20:14.55 | Lunessa | Everything is possible IF YOU'RE AWESOME!! |
| 20:14.55 | Fisker | i'm gonna make 4chan aware of all your activities |
| 20:15.11 | Shirik | they're pretty aware |
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| 20:16.19 | Lopeppeppy | They hate Shirik. A lot. |
| 20:17.57 | Fisker | i'll hate Shirik with them |
| 20:18.50 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&user=Shirik <-- Every time you see " Shirik (talk | contribs) modified Special:AbuseFilter/294" that's 4chan |
| 20:19.38 | Fisker | i want to see it Shirik |
| 20:19.44 | Shirik | noty |
| 20:19.47 | Fisker | .jpg? |
| 20:19.49 | batrick | shirik you have better things to do than spurning 4chan |
| 20:19.52 | batrick | like filumlunaris |
| 20:19.58 | Shirik | rofl |
| 20:20.00 | Shirik | I forgot about that |
| 20:23.38 | zenzelezz | finish it |
| 20:23.43 | zenzelezz | then you can move on to filumsolaris |
| 20:30.07 | zenzelezz | "According to Novell's website, and the Salt Lake Tribune, the jury in the SCO vs Novell trial has returned a verdict: Novell owns the Unix copyrights. This also means that SCO's case against IBM must surely collapse too, and likely the now bankrupt SCO group itself. It's taken 7 years, but the US court system has eventually done the right thing..." |
| 20:30.10 | zenzelezz | please tell me this is true |
| 20:30.55 | Arrowmaster | http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100330152829622 |
| 20:32.17 | zenzelezz | oh man... this is almost worth fapping over |
| 20:32.25 | Fisker | damn |
| 20:32.28 | Fisker | i wish SCO would've won |
| 20:33.25 | Fisker | i hate people who are stupid :( |
| 20:33.30 | Fisker | Cause i always have to troll them |
| 20:34.14 | Fisker | I'm the guy earning 6-figure as an IT trading system specialist- you're the kid in your parents basement. |
| 20:34.21 | Fisker | Me: "Great, maybe you can use your figures of the number 6 to brush up on your english." |
| 20:34.22 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 20:34.29 | Fisker | cruel but he was mean to me first :( |
| 20:34.36 | zenzelezz | hehe |
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| 20:38.28 | Fisker | aww |
| 20:38.31 | Fisker | thread autolocked |
| 20:38.33 | Fisker | he won this round |
| 20:38.37 | Fisker | until a blue unlocks again |
| 20:40.22 | Shirik | Tim Wilson informs you of the event: Matthew Del Bueno, scheduled for 31 March |
| 20:40.22 | Shirik | 2010 at 11:00 AM. |
| 20:40.25 | Shirik | 5 years of being my advisor |
| 20:40.29 | Shirik | and he still can't spell my name right |
| 20:40.52 | Cide | that's funny |
| 20:41.11 | Fisker | I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOUR NAME WASN'T DEL BUENO |
| 20:41.19 | zenzelezz | that's not weird Shirik |
| 20:41.19 | Fisker | or was it buono? |
| 20:41.21 | Fisker | can't remember :( |
| 20:41.27 | Cide | buono |
| 20:41.36 | Shirik | /whois Shirik |
| 20:41.38 | zenzelezz | 10 years with this nick and people still turn my last two Z into S |
| 20:41.53 | Cide | that's just senseless, zenzelezz |
| 20:41.59 | zenzelezz | it is |
| 20:42.01 | Shirik | o. |
| 20:42.03 | Shirik | o |
| 20:42.08 | Shirik | is that really where your name came from? |
| 20:42.12 | Shirik | omg |
| 20:42.21 | zenzelezz | clever, isn't it? |
| 20:42.25 | Shirik | your name is so much easier to pronounce now |
| 20:42.28 | Cide | wait |
| 20:42.41 | Cide | you never realized that his name is senseless but with z's? |
| 20:42.42 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 20:42.43 | Cide | wow |
| 20:42.45 | Cide | fail |
| 20:42.45 | Shirik | no! |
| 20:42.48 | Fisker | why are you connecting via london? |
| 20:43.00 | Shirik | because my school decided that was the best place to connect |
| 20:43.05 | Shirik | quite typical of their failness |
| 20:43.31 | cogwheel | fail too |
| 20:43.44 | cogwheel | joins Shirik in his zenzelezz-namesake-cluelessness |
| 20:43.51 | Fisker | you guys suck |
| 20:43.55 | Fisker | Matthew is a poor name |
| 20:43.56 | zenzelezz | wow :-) |
| 20:44.05 | cogwheel | zenzelezz: must be a Matthew thing |
| 20:44.16 | Fisker | besides zenzelezz can't be a matthew |
| 20:44.23 | Fisker | he's norwegian or swedish or something |
| 20:44.33 | zenzelezz | Norwegian, aye |
| 20:45.19 | Fisker | Thomas is a great name though |
| 20:45.22 | Fisker | it's pretty awesome infact |
| 20:45.30 | zenzelezz | like a fox |
| 20:45.54 | Fisker | Robert Knepper is a poor name though |
| 20:45.57 | Fisker | or Bonner Gaylord |
| 20:46.12 | batrick | Richard Head? |
| 20:46.23 | Fisker | robert knepper is worse :( |
| 20:46.35 | batrick | kk |
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| 20:51.16 | Fisker | isn't that right zenzelezz ? |
| 20:51.34 | zenzelezz | probably |
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| 20:57.23 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/03/30/funny-pictures-misplaced-two-years-ago/ |
| 20:59.23 | Fisker | Shadowed my friend are you there? |
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| 21:06.10 | Arrowmaster | lol http://kotaku.com/5505529/the-10-tribes-of-final-fantasy-xiv-+-oh-look-dark-elves/gallery/ |
| 21:13.05 | zenzelezz | http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/03/sco-loses-again-jury-says-novell-owns-unix-svrx-copyrights.ars - I love the picture on this article |
| 21:14.08 | Fisker | you wouldn't zenzelezz :( |
| 21:21.04 | Arrowmaster | off to class again, now for damn 'pc hardware troubleshooting' which i fucking swear ive taken this class before |
| 21:21.36 | Arrowmaster | but oh well, i take it and i get a CNSS 4011 certification |
| 21:25.09 | Fisker | Arrowmaster |
| 21:30.04 | Dagmar | zenzelezz: I really don't know why they've not been delisted yet. THey closed at TEN CENTS a share today, and the highest they've been at in a while doesn't even break the fifty-cent mar |
| 21:30.32 | zenzelezz | yeah, I had a look at Google Finance... they seemed to have fallen 78% today |
| 21:30.53 | foxlit | 1 4 6 4 1 << Pascal's triangle row? |
| 21:30.54 | Dagmar | That court case was literally the LAST leg they had to stand on |
| 21:31.09 | Dagmar | SCO Unix brought the term "sucks ass" to new lows |
| 21:31.11 | cogwheel | foxlit: yes |
| 21:31.15 | Dagmar | ...they have no IP in LInux. |
| 21:31.37 | Dagmar | ...they have no customers, or assets to speak of, just a few reciepts from Microsoft to keep them suing Linux companies. |
| 21:31.38 | foxlit | cogwheel: with 1 3 3 1 on top. Right :) |
| 21:32.12 | Dagmar | Now we just have to find a way to have a judge order Daryl McBride be sterilized and we're done |
| 21:32.23 | zenzelezz | I second that |
| 21:33.19 | Dagmar | I think he should be held personally liable for the court costs associated with him suing people without having made sure they actually own what they claimed they own. |
| 21:33.29 | Dagmar | Or hell, let's just run him up a pole for fraud. |
| 21:33.50 | zenzelezz | heck, even just paying the legal fees for the defendants should put him well into ruin |
| 21:33.59 | zenzelezz | I hope for that at least |
| 21:35.07 | Dagmar | Can it even be argued that as CEO he didn't know his company's own holdings, and therefore was engaging in fraud when filing a suit claiming ownership of something they were only licenced to resell |
| 21:35.30 | foxlit | http://slimbrowser.flashpeak.com/images/snap.jpg |
| 21:35.35 | Dagmar | I'm thinking it might actually hold up that he must have known they didn't actually own those rights. |
| 21:35.55 | zenzelezz | I think this is roughly what happened in 2003: |
| 21:36.16 | Dagmar | foxlit: Oh look. Another crappy vehicle for delivery of exploit code |
| 21:36.17 | zenzelezz | "Hey legal, this is Darl. Do we have anything we can sue someone over today?" "Hm... how about UNIX? We probably own that" |
| 21:36.18 | Dagmar | ...and ads. |
| 21:36.52 | ZorbaTHut | he can really only be hit with fraud if it's provable that he really did know it was all a complete fake. proving that is difficult, as it should be |
| 21:37.03 | Dagmar | He was CEO of the company |
| 21:37.08 | foxlit | Dagmar: more intriguing: the contrast between the URL and the UI |
| 21:37.15 | ZorbaTHut | so what? the CEO doesn't know everything happening in the company |
| 21:37.18 | Dagmar | What their assets are is something he's directly responsible for knowing |
| 21:37.29 | Lunessa | foxlit: That hurts to look at. |
| 21:37.42 | ZorbaTHut | sure, whether he made a mistake or not is rather unarguable. whether it was *fraud* is another matter entirely |
| 21:38.12 | Dagmar | In the span of _seven years_ there was more than enough time (even without Novell saying 'Um... one moment...') to have figured out they don't actually own those rights. |
| 21:38.17 | ZorbaTHut | merely being responsible doesn't actually imply that he *knew*. he may have been wrong, he may have been misled. or, hell, he may have actually thought he had a case (somehow :D) |
| 21:38.30 | Dagmar | All he's been doing the last five is kiting stock |
| 21:39.00 | Dagmar | ZorbaTHut: Plenty of people have gone to jail for breaking laws they didn't know about |
| 21:39.11 | ZorbaTHut | only we're not talking about breaking a law they didn't know about |
| 21:39.18 | ZorbaTHut | we're talking about proving that someone was intentionally misleading people |
| 21:39.29 | ZorbaTHut | he knows fraud was illegal. the question is whether or not this was fraud. that's tough to prove. |
| 21:39.42 | Dagmar | No, we're talking about something on the level of the owner of a grocery store coming to your house and calling the cops because you somehow stole the belt sander on your patio from him |
| 21:39.46 | ZorbaTHut | I personally think it probably was, but without a smoking gun equivalent, it'll probably never hit him. |
| 21:39.55 | Dagmar | Even though his store only uses a belt sander, but doesn't actually sell them. |
| 21:40.01 | Dagmar | ...and they still have theirs. |
| 21:40.58 | Dagmar | At no time did they ever manage to bring any evidence at all of their claims |
| 21:41.39 | ZorbaTHut | sure, but that's still not proof that darl mcbride is guilty of fraud. that's just evidence that their case was flimsy, whether or not he realized it. |
| 21:43.09 | Dashkal | Calling the cops != suing. Criminal != civil. Without a reasonable doubt != balance of probabilities |
| 21:43.25 | DWSR | your mom == your dad, however. |
| 21:43.27 | ZorbaTHut | fraud is a *very* high bar - far higher than mere blatant stunning incompetence. Darl is definitely guilty of the latter, but the latter is not an actual crime. |
| 21:44.37 | Dashkal | s/Without/Beyond |
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| 21:49.40 | alestane | http://www.boston.com/news/odd/articles/2010/03/30/calif_woman_gets_6_months_for_fake_breasts_heist/ |
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| 21:55.24 | Thunder_Child | wants Civ V already |
| 21:56.13 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: Me too. |
| 21:56.22 | alestane | It would destroy you, Lunessa. |
| 21:56.45 | Lunessa | alestane: You assume there's anything left worth not destroying. |
| 21:56.46 | zenzelezz | I used to be decent at Civ II, but I sucked at Civ IV :-/ |
| 21:57.14 | kd3 | oh geez. sco lost? in the jury trial? |
| 21:57.15 | kd3 | lmfao |
| 21:57.42 | foxlit | has no patience for Civ games. |
| 21:58.02 | Fisker | kd3 |
| 21:58.03 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa: have you seen some of the vids? |
| 21:58.18 | Fisker | it's a shame that sco lost kd3 :( |
| 21:58.33 | Lunessa | No, I was just looking for information on YouTube - someone has to have posted the demo. |
| 21:58.52 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa: there was something from GDC i think |
| 21:59.06 | Lunessa | Yeah, that's what I am looking for. |
| 21:59.28 | alestane | They were running a trailer at PAX East, or least that's what I heard. |
| 21:59.44 | alestane | Since 2K Boston had a booth. |
| 22:00.04 | alestane | That was one of the booths I didn't make it into. |
| 22:00.14 | Thunder_Child | shame |
| 22:00.43 | Fisker | civ 5 sucks though |
| 22:00.49 | Thunder_Child | find it Lunessa? |
| 22:01.05 | Lunessa | Sort of. Inside Gaming. |
| 22:01.21 | Lunessa | It just bitched about Sid talking and talking and talking |
| 22:01.23 | Fisker | http://www.gametrailers.com/game/civilization-v/12779 |
| 22:01.26 | Fisker | what about that? |
| 22:01.32 | Fisker | oh you already saw it i guess |
| 22:01.33 | Thunder_Child | the announcmet trailer is ok |
| 22:01.47 | Thunder_Child | announcement* |
| 22:03.50 | Thunder_Child | hmm...HoN is hitting open beta tomorrow |
| 22:03.52 | alestane | /sigh...finally ran through the money cogwheel gave me for training. At least it took until level 60. |
| 22:04.17 | cogwheel | chuckles |
| 22:04.20 | Lunessa | alestane: *chuckle* You're 60 - cash will roll in now. |
| 22:04.26 | cogwheel | grats on 60 |
| 22:04.36 | alestane | Yeah, I got about 25 from my unexpected run through Ramparts. |
| 22:04.43 | NeoTron | Fisker: how do you know that it sucks? |
| 22:05.16 | NeoTron | I'm looking forward to at least learning more about it |
| 22:05.40 | alestane | Only problem (as I was discussing elsewhere) is that I basically have to do a bunch of HFP quests to be geared for Outland dungeons. |
| 22:06.18 | alestane | It's suddenly taking me 20 minutes to get groups for the 60 dungeons since all the other 59-60s ran off to Outland. |
| 22:06.35 | Thunder_Child | you should also be there |
| 22:06.55 | NeoTron | you're 60 and you're not in outland? wtf? :P |
| 22:06.56 | alestane | And needing 20-30 minutes to get a group as a tank is not what I'm used ot. |
| 22:07.02 | cogwheel | you didn't go to outland at 58? :P |
| 22:07.04 | alestane | I am SO SICK of HFP quests. |
| 22:07.11 | cogwheel | *nod* |
| 22:07.23 | NeoTron | I can see that but... the gear / xp ratio! |
| 22:07.25 | alestane | I was hoping to get to at least 62 on LFD alone, but that also wants me in outland dungeons. |
| 22:07.39 | cogwheel | it would be nice if Outland had another zone you could start off with |
| 22:07.41 | Fisker | i know these things NeoTron |
| 22:07.48 | Fisker | i'm like a master of thoughts |
| 22:08.36 | alestane | And the gear curve is pretty sharp, so I went from dealing 15% group DPS as a tank to dealing 5% and not being able to hold aggro. |
| 22:09.22 | ZorbaTHut | you pretty much only need an appropriate weapon to do a large fraction of your damage-dealing potential |
| 22:09.28 | ZorbaTHut | and that's, like, the third or fourth quest |
| 22:10.33 | cogwheel | How did I miss this???? http://abcnews.go.com/International/facebook-finds-mafia-boss/story?id=10124958 Mafia Wars is REAL!!! |
| 22:11.23 | alestane | I did get Ursol's Claw from the Ramparts run, that will help buckets. |
| 22:11.55 | alestane | Maybe if a guildie can crash me through the last three 60 dungeons I'll be in better shape to move over to outland content. |
| 22:12.05 | alestane | Anyway, gotta go now, RL calls. |
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| 22:12.23 | cogwheel | </subtlehint> |
| 22:12.32 | zenzelezz | I guess people do anything to avoid questing these days |
| 22:16.25 | ZorbaTHut | honestly I have no idea why you'd do 60 content in order to go to outland |
| 22:16.34 | ZorbaTHut | the proper way to go into outland is by doing outland content |
| 22:24.58 | NightHawkTheSane | shoots Hudson |
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| 22:33.48 | Lunessa | ZorbaTHut: Rep, achievements, OCD |
| 22:34.48 | ZorbaTHut | rep and achievements are both easier to get after you hit 80, though. OCD, yeah, sure, but then you're not doing it to *go into outland*, you're doing it for the sake of doing it |
| 22:35.31 | Dagmar | Hellfire Peninsula until you can pick up Zangarmarsh quests, then Zangarmarsh until you can go to Blade's Edge, then THE MOMENT you can pick up Netherstorm quests go do those until you hit 68. |
| 22:35.42 | Dagmar | Specifically, they can be picked up at 67. |
| 22:35.55 | Dagmar | You do not need to choose between Aldor and Scryer, or even bother talking to those people. |
| 22:36.23 | Dagmar | I did this stuff in the three weeks on my 'lock. |
| 22:36.52 | Dagmar | Once in Northrend I went from 68-70 in the space of a few hours. |
| 22:37.58 | Dagmar | Considering that we were two-manning Slave Pens and Underbog with a paladin and a 'lock, someone who can't hold aggro *just might* be a ponce |
| 22:38.18 | Dagmar | giggles. |
| 22:38.58 | Dagmar | That would include stomping Warlord Kalithresh into paste multiple times. |
| 22:42.16 | Dagmar | Wait no, I was in there with a different toon the first time |
| 22:42.49 | Dagmar | LFD is just not hte way to level |
| 22:51.24 | ZorbaTHut | personally I much prefer LFD, it's more fun and quite possibly faster if you're doing it all with rested XP |
| 22:51.58 | WobWork | ZorbaTHut: luck of the draw mostly |
| 22:52.10 | WobWork | I've been in some decent lfds |
| 22:52.17 | WobWork | and some -terrible- terrible lfds |
| 22:52.20 | ZorbaTHut | true, but it's fast enough to recognize when the party is awful and drop |
| 22:52.43 | Fisker | i want to sleep WobWork |
| 22:53.12 | WobWork | drops Fisker into a vat of JD |
| 22:53.19 | Fisker | no? |
| 22:53.54 | Kalroth | yes |
| 23:03.52 | Fisker | yes? |
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| 23:05.40 | Fisker | slaps ArrowmasterClass around a bit with a large trout |
| 23:06.52 | ArrowmasterClass | go away im trying to setup a new XPsp2 install |
| 23:10.57 | Fisker | lol xpsp2 |
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| 23:13.00 | Thunder_Child | indeed Fisker, indeed |
| 23:14.29 | Dagmar | LFD isn't faster |
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| 23:15.33 | Fisker | btw Arrowmaster |
| 23:15.39 | Fisker | i just wanted to let you know that "lol xpsp2" |
| 23:15.55 | ArrowmasterClass | its what i was given |
| 23:16.01 | ArrowmasterClass | downloading sp3 now |
| 23:16.40 | Dagmar | Everyone's going to be getting new IE patches tonight anyway |
| 23:17.09 | Fisker | old |
| 23:18.15 | Fisker | i hope apple dies |
| 23:20.47 | WobWork | hehe |
| 23:21.04 | WobWork | An American critic, Liesl Schillinger described QI as, "Jeopardy with Stephen Colbert as host, with Steve Martin and Ellen DeGeneres as guests, working off a game board loaded with unanswerable questions." |
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| 23:35.56 | Fisker | WobWork |
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| 23:52.38 | WobWork | crazy. I just found out that someone I know on IRC on another channel, is the husband to a family friend |
| 23:53.01 | WobWork | now I'm finding myself censoring responses to him, cause he's technically related =P |
| 23:53.58 | Dagmar | You should figure out whether it's a familial or just an age barrier you're looking to not cross. |
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| 23:54.43 | Torhal | He's trying to avoid the Evil Eye from grandma. |
