| 00:00.12 | Fisker | try ctrl+F5'ing Zyn ? |
| 00:00.36 | WobWork | foxlit: -----^ |
| 00:00.46 | WobWork | (ie ignoring Fisker's conversation) |
| 00:00.58 | Fisker | it's i.e. |
| 00:00.58 | Zyn | every possible button-combo in the world and still nothing >:[ |
| 00:02.09 | Fisker | >;( |
| 00:02.09 | Fisker | youtube sucks |
| 00:02.09 | WobWork | s/ie/id est/ |
| 00:02.10 | Fisker | WobWork |
| 00:02.11 | Fisker | does it work for you? |
| 00:02.11 | foxlit | WobWork: as long as they don't fade, and you only get one per 12 seconds |
| 00:02.17 | foxlit | At least if I read that right |
| 00:02.41 | WobWork | foxlit: that's the target's |
| 00:02.51 | WobWork | and for pre-aoe damage |
| 00:02.55 | WobWork | it's useful |
| 00:03.21 | WobWork | disc healing is all about predicting incoming damage |
| 00:03.52 | Fisker | Zyn |
| 00:03.53 | Fisker | retry |
| 00:04.22 | WobWork | foxlit: apparently, if something like boss aoe kills all the shields at once, the priest still gets the mana back for each shield |
| 00:04.44 | foxlit | WobWork: but not if lots of unrelated hits kill each shield individually? |
| 00:04.49 | Zyn | fuck it, probably the worst clip ever in human history anyway |
| 00:04.53 | Fisker | yes |
| 00:05.03 | foxlit | I have no experience, although I do have a priest at 80. |
| 00:05.11 | DWSR | WobWork |
| 00:05.14 | DWSR | Did you give up? |
| 00:05.16 | Fisker | if it doesn't work now Zyn google fucked it up during the downtime |
| 00:05.20 | Fisker | can you check one last time? :P |
| 00:05.43 | WobWork | DWSR: oh, that wasn't the song you were after? |
| 00:06.01 | WobWork | foxlit: no idea, tbh, I'm not in a raid level yet |
| 00:06.15 | Zyn | now it works, and yes Just Cause 2 has hilarious moments |
| 00:06.26 | Zyn | like ... DRIVING A JEEP OF THE TOP OF A MOUNTAIN |
| 00:06.44 | Fisker | yay |
| 00:06.53 | DWSR | WobWork: The link you gave me was a mashup. |
| 00:07.01 | DWSR | WobWork: I want the acapela (i.e. the singing in that track) |
| 00:07.02 | Zyn | "weeeeeee *SMASH* yaaahoooo *CRASH* oh god its spinning so fast Im gonna throw up *BOOM*" |
| 00:07.30 | WobWork | DWSR: ah |
| 00:07.38 | DWSR | So you were 50% right. |
| 00:07.40 | WobWork | I thought you were after that particular song |
| 00:07.40 | Fisker | it's a shame they nerfed the grappling hook to hell though |
| 00:07.44 | WobWork | rightio |
| 00:08.00 | Fisker | I hope they make an update in a few weeks with a lot of community suggested upgrades :P |
| 00:08.12 | Zyn | Fisker , did you know Rico hums 'Ride of the Valkyries' if you grab an attack helicopter and rain lead on enemies |
| 00:08.17 | DWSR | WobWork: http://www.discogs.com/Louie-Vega--Jay-Sinister-Seal%C3%A9e-Diamond-Life/release/73900 |
| 00:08.19 | DWSR | btw. |
| 00:08.55 | Fisker | nope Zyn :P |
| 00:09.05 | Zyn | I laughed good when I heard it |
| 00:09.17 | DWSR | WobWork: No. As I said, I have that album. ;) |
| 00:10.46 | DWSR | (The one that you linked me, not the one that I linked you) |
| 00:11.08 | Cide | welcome back purl |
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| 00:15.52 | DWSR | Oh, it's /you/ |
| 00:21.58 | Duman | ok, the cluster laucher issue/exploit can be mildly amusing at times |
| 00:22.16 | Duman | http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/5246/wowscrnshot032810185743.jpg |
| 00:22.29 | Shadowed | haha |
| 00:22.59 | Shadowed | I thought those had a cooldown on using |
| 00:23.03 | Shadowed | s/using/deploying/ |
| 00:23.03 | WobWork | hehe that's terrible |
| 00:23.32 | Duman | don't think so.. just a 2s cast |
| 00:23.59 | Duman | the fact that they have a collision zone around them is what the fatal problem is, tho ;) |
| 00:24.22 | Shadowed | Some say problem, other say feature |
| 00:24.41 | WobWork | I wonder why they gave them a collision zone |
| 00:24.50 | Fisker | AWWWWW |
| 00:27.06 | Fisker | JC2 crashed after flying a bit with a plane |
| 00:27.07 | Fisker | :( |
| 00:27.22 | Fisker | think i reached a game boundary because the AI planes apparently don't care about those |
| 00:31.37 | DWSR | Duman: Rofl |
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| 00:39.32 | Fisker | yay |
| 00:39.42 | Fisker | i grapplehooked my helikopter to a boing 747 |
| 00:41.00 | DWSR | wtf? |
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| 00:41.50 | bleeter | Have I got this right? WoW->WotLK->8 patches? |
| 00:42.00 | DWSR | Yeah. |
| 00:42.01 | Fisker | so close! |
| 00:42.02 | DWSR | Something like that. |
| 00:42.09 | Fisker | naw bleeter |
| 00:42.13 | Fisker | WotLK->x Patches |
| 00:42.47 | bleeter | patches Fisker |
| 00:43.27 | bleeter | DWSR: cheers, just wanted to 'make sure' there was still no 3.3.0 master, I guess... |
| 00:44.15 | Fisker | WotLK->x Patches |
| 00:44.54 | Fisker | fraps have failed me for the last time! |
| 00:46.38 | Fisker | wasting choppers like candy here |
| 00:48.40 | KarlKFI | Cairenn: ?? |
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| 00:51.52 | Fisker | holy shit |
| 00:51.54 | Fisker | that was hilarious |
| 01:02.58 | bleeter | 9 |
| 01:03.01 | bleeter | fme |
| 01:13.06 | Fisker | bleeter |
| 01:13.08 | Fisker | why won't you stop me? |
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| 01:20.56 | Torhal | Fisker: Probably because you're always saying "You can't stop me!" |
| 01:27.12 | nichdu | I hate this loading-bar-is-full-but-here-is-dead-end-bug :x |
| 01:27.28 | Mikk | what has actually happened is that your character has disconnected |
| 01:27.47 | Mikk | i'm wondering if it's some common addon causing it |
| 01:27.56 | Mikk | by e.g. spewing too much data or querying too much during the loading process |
| 01:27.57 | Fisker | no Mikk |
| 01:28.00 | nichdu | It happens without addons too |
| 01:28.02 | Fisker | It's Blizzard's fault! |
| 01:28.03 | Mikk | ok |
| 01:28.23 | WobWork | s'irritating, s'what it is |
| 01:28.24 | Mikk | but, yeah, you've actually discoed at the point where the loading screen hangs |
| 01:28.28 | Mikk | alt+f4 fixes it |
| 01:28.33 | Fisker | Yeah have heard a few people having it occuring even after removing addons and so forth |
| 01:28.35 | Mikk | dont need to force kill via task manager |
| 01:28.52 | Fisker | but i figure most of them are people with addons that can't understand what a cache is and what requesting a shitton of data does |
| 01:29.45 | Fisker | The funniest thing was someone who argued that it wasn't due to the cache because it was funny how it happened every patch |
| 01:29.53 | Fisker | and that was after i told him that the cache was deleted every patch |
| 01:30.11 | Mikk | hehe |
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| 01:38.09 | Dagmar | I would just like to login without having to do it twice |
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| 02:11.46 | A-KO | damnit |
| 02:11.49 | A-KO | I hate naming characters |
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| 02:17.58 | Torhal | Another frustrating issue is that you get disconnected but WoW is still running when reloading the UI a few times. |
| 02:18.33 | DWSR | yes. |
| 02:20.49 | Dagmar | A-Ko: Just do like the spammers do. Smack your keyboard to put in 8-9 consonants, and then just walk up and say "hi" to someone |
| 02:22.50 | Dagmar | Bonus points if you can even make it to level 10 on an RP server with a name like 'Mqwsuxuosw' |
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| 02:28.19 | bleeter | meh, I can't even get the char list to load... |
| 02:29.57 | Shirik | Anyone here use mercurial? Is there a way to get it to remember my password? |
| 02:30.19 | WobWork | I use it with pagent |
| 02:30.26 | Jerub | Shirik: yes. |
| 02:30.33 | Shirik | how? |
| 02:30.47 | Jerub | Shirik: you can make it talk to the system keyring |
| 02:30.49 | Jerub | just a sec |
| 02:30.56 | Shirik | I'm on Windows -_- |
| 02:31.21 | Shirik | and I'm not going over ssh, I'm going over https |
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| 02:36.34 | Cide | I know pageant and putty work together to accomplish it |
| 02:36.44 | Cide | no clue about https |
| 02:37.15 | Jerub | Shirik: that's alright, it will work |
| 02:37.27 | Jerub | Shirik: http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/KeyringExtension |
| 02:37.50 | Shirik | thanks |
| 02:40.36 | Iriel | Yay: Tower ofthe Mouldering Corpse |
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| 02:50.17 | Adys | ~ping |
| 02:50.18 | purl | ~pong |
| 02:50.25 | Torhal | ~pong |
| 02:50.26 | purl | ~ping |
| 02:50.28 | Torhal | BWAH |
| 02:53.43 | Kraps | "Arcane magic: Why convert mana into fire or ice when i can just throw my mana bar at my enemies? " |
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| 03:14.20 | bleeter | http://svn.php.net/viewvc/php/php-src/trunk/ext/standard/lcg.c?r1=293036&r2=293253 |
| 03:16.22 | Adys | bleeter: wth? |
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| 03:26.30 | Corrodias | interesting, i haven't seen php before |
| 03:26.59 | Corrodias | which explains why i don't understand a number of things happening there |
| 03:28.26 | Cide | hey Shirik |
| 03:28.31 | Cide | glad to see you using python |
| 03:28.34 | kd3 | ...wtf |
| 03:28.34 | Shirik | I am? |
| 03:28.53 | Cide | mercurial, yes |
| 03:28.57 | Shirik | oh |
| 03:29.01 | Shirik | yes, well, portage is python too |
| 03:29.05 | Shirik | sometimes there are necessary evils |
| 03:29.16 | Cide | psh |
| 03:29.23 | bleeter | puts more entropy in kd3's timesofdays |
| 03:30.35 | Cide | you want to play some Shirik? |
| 03:30.42 | Shirik | I'm a little busy right now :( |
| 03:30.46 | Cide | alright |
| 03:32.30 | pompy | @ping |
| 03:32.31 | Repo | pong |
| 03:32.36 | Adys | ~ping |
| 03:32.37 | purl | ~pong |
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| 03:43.29 | Adys | chillmaw has become piss easy to solo as frost since the deepfreeze and mirror image changes |
| 03:43.33 | Adys | which makes me very happy |
| 03:51.07 | Adys | ROFL |
| 03:51.17 | DWSR | ~faildys |
| 03:51.21 | Adys | you can get vehicle seat info on regular mobs |
| 03:51.28 | Adys | like the rhinos in sholazar |
| 04:00.10 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: explain shield block and shield wall to me. |
| 04:00.24 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: one is 60% reduction and 5 minute cooldown, the other is 100% block and 50 second cooldown |
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| 04:05.38 | DWSR | Shield Wall is a 60% reduction in all damage taken. |
| 04:05.52 | Jerub | oh, including spell damage and stuff |
| 04:05.53 | DWSR | It just does a flat reduction of all incoming damage. |
| 04:05.58 | DWSR | Yeah. |
| 04:06.14 | DWSR | Shield Block makes you block every incoming attack while it's active. |
| 04:06.33 | DWSR | That just means that the incoming damage is reduced by your SBV. |
| 04:07.21 | DWSR | SO |
| 04:07.53 | DWSR | Your SB CD is minor, but useful. |
| 04:26.47 | Legorol | SB has secondary benefits too |
| 04:27.03 | Legorol | like upping your SBV so you hit harder with Shield Slam if i remember right |
| 04:29.05 | DWSR | yeah. |
| 04:29.10 | DWSR | Similar to Unbreakable Armor + Bladed Armor |
| 04:37.16 | Shirik | o.o |
| 04:37.46 | Shirik | "People in the central florida area should have means to access emergency weather information overnight and monitor weather information before going to sleep" |
| 04:37.54 | Shirik | GREAT JOB AT ANNOUNCING THAT AT 12:30 AM NWS |
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| 04:47.20 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: I figured out why compositing wasn't behaving well with WoW: I had my taskbar set to auto-hide. |
| 04:47.27 | Torhal | Damn KDE. |
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| 04:58.18 | bleeter | is this 'loading' error just on entering world, or on toon selector as well. I ask 'coz I'll be stuffed if I can get to toon selection ... :| |
| 04:58.35 | WobWork | entering afaik |
| 04:59.27 | bleeter | grrr can't get to toon selection, even after reinstall |
| 05:00.11 | Arrowmaster | http://www.ps3news.com/PlayStation-3/ps3-firmware-3-21-coming-april-1st-disables-otheros-feature/ |
| 05:00.14 | Arrowmaster | http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010/03/28/ps3-firmware-v3-21-update/ |
| 05:00.22 | Arrowmaster | early april 1st troll or real? |
| 05:01.12 | Arrowmaster | the one single existing ps3 hack makes use of the ability to run linux on the ps3 afaik |
| 05:02.12 | Arrowmaster | although sony did promise when the slim came out without the ability to install linux on it that they would continue to offer that feature on the old hardware and not remove it with a software update |
| 05:13.08 | Corrodias | i cannot feel sorry for ps3 owners. they know what they're getting into, signing a deal with Sony. |
| 05:26.22 | Shirik | this is why the government has no money |
| 05:26.34 | Shirik | Just posted for FBI: |
| 05:26.41 | Shirik | Job Description: Electronics Engineer, GS 14 (EX) |
| 05:26.43 | Shirik | Salary Range: $105211.00-$136771.00 |
| 05:27.52 | Corrodias | isn't that supposed to be a high-paying specialty? |
| 05:28.02 | Shirik | not THAT high |
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| 05:43.05 | Shirik | PANDORA FAIL |
| 05:43.30 | WobWork | Shirik: switch to grooveshark |
| 05:43.31 | Corrodias | maybe you're just not high enough |
| 05:43.35 | Shirik | It says this album title is "LOL D[-_-]B" |
| 05:43.43 | Shirik | It's supposed to say "LOL d[-_-]b" |
| 05:43.50 | WobWork | hehe |
| 05:45.14 | WobWork | DJ -> [-_-]b^b |
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| 05:49.22 | Shirik | gah |
| 05:49.36 | Shirik | I hate languages that won't let you return the result of a void function |
| 05:56.10 | krka | me too |
| 05:56.34 | krka | would be nice to be able do: return foo.voidMethod(); instead of foo.voidMethod(); return; |
| 06:01.28 | Corrodias | why? is that... important? |
| 06:01.50 | krka | are you important? |
| 06:02.06 | Shirik | it makes the intention of a tailcall readily apparent |
| 06:03.10 | krka | i can't believe i am agreeing with Shirik |
| 06:03.17 | Shirik | :( |
| 06:03.29 | Corrodias | oh, wait, i don't know what tailcalls are :( |
| 06:03.47 | Shirik | I'm not as unconventional as most people seem to believe, I'm just very extroverted about my beliefs in the computing world |
| 06:03.54 | Shirik | especially about those things I disagree with |
| 06:04.58 | Shirik | Basically, my unconventional beliefs boil down to 2 or 3 things: (1) C++ is a great language, (2) Python and Perl have outlasted their lifetime, (3) Linux is a poor kernel, but unfortunately there isn't really anything better |
| 06:07.25 | krka | bsd kernel? |
| 06:08.00 | Arrowmaster | Shirik is a microkernel fan |
| 06:08.09 | Shirik | ^ |
| 06:18.40 | nevcairiel | I still dont see how you can say Python has outlasted its lifetime, for programming languages its relatively new, if something is too old to be used, its C++ :P |
| 06:22.53 | Arrowmaster | might want to wait for him to come back |
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| 06:34.18 | nevcairiel | jnwhiteh: lua_bot just bailed |
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| 06:51.46 | Shirik | don't you love those moments when you're debugging a really elusive bug and then you go "ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo" and have this magical revelation? |
| 06:52.07 | Jerub | Shirik: no, i don't take drugs. |
| 06:52.22 | Shirik | C++ is drugs |
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| 06:56.12 | mikma | C-- |
| 06:56.41 | mikma | ~karma C |
| 06:56.41 | purl | c has karma of 10 |
| 06:57.00 | Shirik | cat |
| 06:58.17 | Thunder_Child | scat |
| 06:58.41 | Shirik | no it obviously starts with a C |
| 06:58.46 | Shirik | don't you know how to play hangman |
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| 06:59.45 | Thunder_Child | car |
| 06:59.45 | Thunder_Child | con |
| 06:59.49 | Thunder_Child | cot |
| 06:59.50 | Thunder_Child | cob |
| 07:00.09 | Thunder_Child | cab |
| 07:00.25 | Thunder_Child | cap |
| 07:00.28 | krka | grep -i ^c..$ /usr/share/dict/american-english |
| 07:00.29 | Thunder_Child | cad |
| 07:00.41 | Shirik | krka cheats |
| 07:00.46 | Thunder_Child | cav |
| 07:00.47 | Thunder_Child | can |
| 07:00.49 | Thunder_Child | cam |
| 07:01.09 | krka | Cal Che Chi Cid Col Com Cox Coy cab cad cam can cap car cat caw chi cob cod cog con coo cop cot cow cox coy cry cub cud cue cup cur cut |
| 07:01.23 | mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:01.25 | Jerub | he's dead |
| 07:01.26 | mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:01.26 | mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:01.26 | mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:01.26 | mikma | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:01.26 | mikma | /~\ |
| 07:01.28 | Jerub | just fyi. |
| 07:01.30 | mikma | meh |
| 07:01.47 | Shirik | that's a good way to piss off EDI, mikma |
| 07:02.02 | mikma | good |
| 07:02.14 | mikma | edi: fuck yoooouuuuuuuuuu |
| 07:02.28 | mikma | am i scoring points? |
| 07:02.46 | Shirik | Total score: 8.3007081762839 at the end if your art, whatever it was |
| 07:02.59 | Shirik | but now you're back down to 0.9 |
| 07:03.12 | Shirik | it knows you too well, your score drops fast |
| 07:03.18 | mikma | is 8.3 much? |
| 07:03.27 | Shirik | it's above average but it's not that high |
| 07:03.33 | krka | that's what she said |
| 07:03.44 | Shirik | 60 is the lock threshold (though it's an exponentially increasing score) |
| 07:03.49 | mikma | what did she say krka? |
| 07:03.53 | krka | that |
| 07:04.02 | mikma | she said "that" |
| 07:04.13 | krka | yes! |
| 07:04.17 | Jerub | that |
| 07:05.48 | mikma | ~that |
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| 07:06.20 | mikma | purl: that is <reply> what she said |
| 07:06.21 | purl | okay, mikma |
| 07:07.45 | Shirik | hahhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 07:07.48 | Shirik | gah* |
| 07:07.56 | Shirik | I know why this bug is occurring, but I don't know how to fix it |
| 07:08.11 | Shirik | what I wouldn't give for Java right now |
| 07:08.45 | nevcairiel | your great c++ fails you |
| 07:08.55 | krka | please explain |
| 07:09.04 | Adys | google history should include a brain dump of what i was thinking at the time i wrote the query |
| 07:09.21 | Adys | i searched for priyadarshi almost 2 years ago |
| 07:09.28 | Adys | and it DOESNT SAY WHY :( |
| 07:10.13 | Shirik | http://pastey.net/134683-22fg |
| 07:10.24 | Shirik | the highlighted line is the problematic one |
| 07:10.24 | Adys | is that a braindump? |
| 07:10.40 | Shirik | because it fires an event, but that event won't get called until a little later |
| 07:10.58 | Shirik | so by the time the event is processed, the variable has already gone out of scope and been destroyed |
| 07:11.41 | Shirik | I guess I'll just add a capability to wait and throw in a semaphore |
| 07:15.23 | Cairenn | whaps bleeter upside the head with a big fluffy pillow |
| 07:15.41 | Shirik | pokes Cairenn |
| 07:15.46 | Cairenn | pokes Shirik |
| 07:15.50 | Shirik | pokes Cairenn |
| 07:15.54 | Cairenn | pokes Shirik |
| 07:15.58 | Shirik | pokes Cairennn |
| 07:16.07 | Cairenn | :p |
| 07:16.10 | Shirik | aw |
| 07:16.23 | Shirik | just needed one more :( |
| 07:16.25 | Cairenn | you spelled my name wrong |
| 07:16.28 | Shirik | I know |
| 07:16.32 | Shirik | otherwise EDI would have banned me |
| 07:16.37 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 07:16.54 | nevcairiel | he wanted to get you banned! |
| 07:17.08 | Cairenn | I'm not so look as you dumb I am! |
| 07:17.27 | Cairenn | s/look/think/ |
| 07:17.33 | Cairenn | lol |
| 07:17.39 | Shirik | no comment |
| 07:17.42 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 07:17.54 | Cairenn | mixing up my expressions, way to show just how SMRT I am |
| 07:17.55 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 07:18.12 | Cairenn | but hey, at least I can laugh at myself :) |
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| 07:18.52 | nevcairiel | and i thought that was intentional now :D |
| 07:18.58 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 07:19.09 | Cairenn | no, I really did mix up two very similar expressions |
| 07:19.38 | Cairenn | 'I'm not as dumb as I look' and 'I'm not as think as you dumb I am' |
| 07:19.58 | Cairenn | and I just mushed 'em together and screwed it up completely |
| 07:19.59 | Cairenn | hehehhe |
| 07:20.17 | Cairenn | go me! |
| 07:21.32 | krka | and you have that brain thing - I already did! |
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| 07:26.52 | Shirik | brain thing? |
| 07:28.42 | Shirik | "Constructs a null datetime (i.e. null date and null time). A null datetime is invalid, since the date is invalid." |
| 07:28.57 | Shirik | That's like saying "A foo is a foo because it is a foo" |
| 07:36.43 | krka | no it isn't |
| 07:37.08 | krka | "A foo has property bar because it contains something with property bar" |
| 07:37.15 | nevcairiel | its like saying "A foo is invalid because bar is invalid that foo is representing" |
| 07:37.56 | krka | "Constructs null car (i.e. null engine and null transmission). A null car is invalid, since the engine is invalid" |
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| 07:47.39 | Taroven | It really does figure that I screw with fonts for half an hour before finally settling on Arial. |
| 07:51.57 | Shirik | ok fine krka |
| 07:51.59 | Shirik | you win this round |
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| 08:33.26 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: thanks. |
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| 09:15.37 | zenzio | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8528672.stm |
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| 09:33.45 | zenzio | "In other words, the Pentagon is furious that this exposing of its secrets might enable others to engage in exactly the type of "perception management" which the aforementioned CIA Report proposes the U.S. do with regard to the citizenry of our allied countries." |
| 09:41.13 | olafski | those bastards |
| 09:41.45 | olafski | making the pentagon furious seems like a good idea |
| 09:45.13 | olafski | bleh I abandoned all my quests upon reaching outland.. including the venomhide quest =( |
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| 10:19.40 | Fisker | sneaks up behind jnwhiteh |
| 10:27.26 | Fisker | zenzio olafski |
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| 11:21.39 | Wobin | "The only time you have too much fuel is when you're on fire." |
| 11:22.40 | Kalroth | or lost in the desert without water |
| 11:22.51 | Kalroth | (and car) |
| 11:24.42 | Fisker | yay Wobin |
| 11:24.44 | Fisker | i did it |
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| 11:26.08 | Fisker | i didn't? :( |
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| 11:26.13 | Wobin | no =( |
| 11:31.51 | zenzio | "Why don't yanks take part in F1? I thought you loved racing cars about." "Because our favorite racing (stock car) descended from moonshine running. And if a car doesn't look like its got a few plastic jugs of homemade hootch in the trunk, it just doesn't interest us." |
| 11:34.53 | foxlit | wru, multiple returns in Java? :( |
| 11:35.20 | Wobin | wow |
| 11:35.22 | Matsy | no |
| 11:35.23 | Wobin | Lady Gaga is 24 |
| 11:35.27 | Matsy | foxlit, impossiblee |
| 11:35.35 | foxlit | I'm well aware. |
| 11:35.36 | Matsy | You'd need to have some kind of wrapper object :( |
| 11:35.37 | foxlit | Still, it hurts. |
| 11:35.49 | Matsy | Pfsh, it's not that bad, right? |
| 11:36.07 | foxlit | Oh, it loses some major convenience points. |
| 11:36.27 | Matsy | For readability and structured code ;p |
| 11:37.39 | foxlit | I'm not sure either of those points are going to win |
| 11:37.50 | Matsy | Well, it's a personal thing, really |
| 11:37.55 | Matsy | They'd definitely win for me |
| 11:38.12 | foxlit | http://www.pastey.net/134686 << Fear it. |
| 11:38.28 | zenzio | just because a language supports multiple returns doesn't mean you have to use it |
| 11:38.36 | zenzio | I'd find it useful if more languages supported it |
| 11:39.16 | Matsy | getM? |
| 11:39.17 | foxlit | I can hack it by passing the return list in as an argument to be populated |
| 11:39.22 | foxlit | By that smells. |
| 11:39.35 | foxlit | s/By/but/ |
| 11:39.46 | Matsy | What should getM do? |
| 11:39.59 | Kalroth | it gets M, duh! |
| 11:40.05 | Matsy | Obviously! |
| 11:40.14 | foxlit | Would you be happier with a "factorizeToArcaneForm(int n)"? |
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| 11:41.17 | zenzio | Matsy: it's short for "get 'em!" |
| 11:41.27 | Matsy | factorize Arcane Form? ... |
| 11:41.44 | Matsy | Gah, this is out of my league, I suppose |
| 11:41.57 | foxlit | It's just math. |
| 11:42.13 | zenzio | ones does not simply factorise Arcane mages |
| 11:42.47 | Matsy | I could've guessed it was math, but what exactly is the purpose of it? |
| 11:43.02 | foxlit | You can express any integer n > 1 as either n = (2^k1-1) + (2^k2-1) + ... (2^km-1) or n = (2^k1-1) + (2^k2-1) + ... 2*(2^km-1) such that k1 > k2 > k3 ... > km >= 1 |
| 11:43.46 | foxlit | s/>/>=/ |
| 11:44.02 | foxlit | The function returns a list of k1,k2,k3,...,km values given a particular number |
| 11:44.30 | foxlit | However, I'd also like to know whether it's the first factorization form or the second -- i.e. should the last component be doubled or not. |
| 11:44.32 | zenzio | blinks |
| 11:44.47 | Matsy | :+ |
| 11:45.43 | foxlit | Were it Lua, I'd simply return a second value specifying which form was used. Without multiple returns, no solution seems appealing. |
| 11:45.48 | olafski | wrapper, there you go =) |
| 11:45.53 | Matsy | Yeah, exactly my point |
| 11:45.57 | Matsy | Make a wrapper class |
| 11:46.01 | Matsy | I have no clue what it does |
| 11:46.08 | zenzio | his point is that it would be nice to not have to use wrappers |
| 11:46.12 | Matsy | But, a wrapper class can always do whatever multiple returns can do |
| 11:46.13 | zenzio | (as far as I understood) |
| 11:46.16 | olafski | you'd be returning some kind of "struct" anyway |
| 11:46.16 | Matsy | What, no |
| 11:46.32 | Matsy | Code with wrappers does not smell |
| 11:46.43 | olafski | code with wrappers sounds like "OO" to me =) |
| 11:46.47 | zenzio | all code smells |
| 11:46.52 | Matsy | It's actually one of the most common refactors. |
| 11:46.58 | zenzio | but like all smells, people prefer different ones |
| 11:48.01 | foxlit | zenzio is right, really. |
| 11:48.22 | Matsy | Well, there are guidelines for Java code, to say the very least. |
| 11:48.32 | Matsy | And those are very widely accepted by the Java community |
| 11:48.47 | olafski | http://java.sun.com/docs/codeconv/ ? :D |
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| 11:49.05 | olafski | considering it's an impossibility in the language, it doesn't really require guidelines I guess |
| 11:49.14 | Matsy | Yes, that's the start. |
| 11:49.25 | Matsy | Well, olafski, there are guidelines about the use of wrapper objects |
| 11:49.32 | foxlit | So, basically, because of the language, I get to write extra code that seems inelegant. |
| 11:49.36 | Matsy | *wrapper classes. |
| 11:49.42 | Taroven | Blargh. Anyone up for helping me get wow running via wine? |
| 11:49.57 | Matsy | Well, you're comparing it with a scripting language, that seems unfair |
| 11:50.01 | Taroven | (well, got it running, just a couple kinks to work out) |
| 11:50.28 | olafski | inelegant is in the eye of the beholder ;) as zenzio said |
| 11:50.45 | Matsy | I had to write a bunch of extra code in Lua as well, when joining the WoWAce contests for last year's blizzcon. |
| 11:51.06 | olafski | "Use XXX in a comment to flag something that is bogus but works." :D |
| 11:51.13 | Matsy | It was so neat and tidy in F#, and so nasty in lua |
| 11:51.48 | foxlit | Now, is that the language itself, or your understanding of the language that was a problem? |
| 11:51.56 | Matsy | That was the language itself, really |
| 11:52.04 | foxlit | i.e. were you writing extra code because you had to, or because you didn't know how not to? |
| 11:52.15 | Matsy | The former. |
| 11:53.01 | olafski | could you give an example? I'm intrigued :) |
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| 11:53.22 | Matsy | let me see if I can find it |
| 11:53.48 | olafski | blegh seems like every other comment in the Skada thread is about people wanting to merge pets with owners |
| 11:53.56 | olafski | why don't they add that feature already :$ |
| 11:54.11 | zenzio | Skada? |
| 11:54.35 | Kalroth | damage meter |
| 11:55.01 | olafski | and threat =) |
| 11:55.26 | Matsy | Hm, olafski, I can't really find it anymore. |
| 11:55.26 | foxlit | olafski: because it's a UI feature, presumably :) |
| 11:55.44 | foxlit | It's the UI that should say "Hey, this guy had pets. Do I want to include them in his bar?" |
| 11:55.51 | Matsy | Only the python script I used.. |
| 11:55.56 | olafski | they provide their own UI with it don't they? |
| 11:56.06 | olafski | it seems like a reasonable feature to request and probably not a whole lot of work |
| 11:58.21 | Matsy | hm |
| 11:58.28 | Matsy | But, I can remember it had to do something with collections. |
| 11:59.19 | Matsy | and translation of those collections |
| 11:59.24 | Matsy | I'll find it though ;p |
| 11:59.38 | olafski | :) |
| 11:59.59 | olafski | had some douche in the java channel the other day who was trying to convince us java is a bad language because nobody uses it to make games >_< |
| 12:01.07 | Kalroth | Java is an okay language, it is the VM of it that is the issue |
| 12:01.36 | Matsy | It seems no one seems to be using anything other than C# / C++ to make games. ;p |
| 12:02.03 | zenzio | maybe I'm jumping to conclusions, but I don't think Java had games in mind when it was developed |
| 12:02.44 | olafski | what's wrong with the VM =( |
| 12:02.44 | olafski | I don't think so either zenzio |
| 12:02.44 | nevcairiel | there was a java game once |
| 12:02.44 | nevcairiel | forgot its name |
| 12:02.44 | olafski | sure there are some |
| 12:02.44 | Matsy | Runescape? |
| 12:02.44 | Matsy | ;p |
| 12:02.44 | olafski | there's a quake 2 java port ;) |
| 12:02.44 | Matsy | I believe Runescape is the .. best example of a working Java game |
| 12:02.44 | olafski | and krka is working on some java mmo |
| 12:02.46 | Matsy | I don't really like it, but it's a good game, I suppose |
| 12:02.47 | olafski | but it's kind of preposterous to say "nobody uses it for games so it sucks" |
| 12:02.49 | zenzio | Runescape is Java? |
| 12:02.51 | Matsy | Yeah. |
| 12:02.52 | olafski | might as well say php sucks because of that! |
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| 12:03.03 | foxlit | Plenty of people use php for games |
| 12:03.05 | olafski | oh he also said "java takes 20 times as much memory than C++ for everything" |
| 12:03.05 | nevcairiel | php sucks, no matter what reason you produce :D |
| 12:03.17 | Matsy | agrees with nevcairiel on that |
| 12:03.22 | airtonix | why |
| 12:03.27 | olafski | I like php =( |
| 12:03.31 | olafski | my shell scripts are all done in php |
| 12:03.38 | nevcairiel | ew |
| 12:03.40 | airtonix | substantiate your slander! |
| 12:03.42 | Matsy | Go use ASP.NET |
| 12:03.42 | Matsy | <3 |
| 12:03.51 | nevcairiel | thats no language |
| 12:03.53 | olafski | matsy: I'm trying to learn that.. but I got stuck on page 2 of the tutorial |
| 12:04.07 | zenzio | I tried to figure out how to set up a Sharepoint site once... |
| 12:04.12 | airtonix | olafski, you mean step one : print "lol" |
| 12:04.23 | foxlit | On the other hand, calling this a factorization is a problem, since it doesn't actually involve a product |
| 12:04.23 | olafski | airtonix: no, getting a database into my site |
| 12:04.25 | Matsy | Oh, zenzio! |
| 12:04.27 | Matsy | Sharepoint! <3 |
| 12:04.36 | Matsy | It's not that complicated? ;p |
| 12:05.02 | olafski | matsy: are you an asp.net guru whose brain I could pick to fix this issue I'm having? ;-)) |
| 12:05.08 | Matsy | I'd hope so ;p |
| 12:05.14 | zenzio | Matsy: according to one of the *many* books my boss had bought about Sharepoint, you had to place templates in such nice folders as "Progam files\...\13" |
| 12:05.22 | olafski | I would really like to continue working on the tutorial |
| 12:05.28 | Matsy | Eh, zenzio. |
| 12:05.29 | olafski | matsy: can I pm you about it? =) doesn't seem related here |
| 12:05.33 | Matsy | No one really does that manually |
| 12:05.39 | Matsy | There's Sharepoint Designer for a reason |
| 12:05.52 | nevcairiel | when yo cant finish the tutorial is the point when you know its not for you |
| 12:05.56 | zenzio | Matsy: clearly I don't know much about this; we just kept mucking around until we could go back to PHP |
| 12:06.06 | Matsy | Lol! |
| 12:06.21 | airtonix | olafski, four hours was spent here discussing whether one thousand is 1,000 or 1,024 |
| 12:06.24 | Matsy | Sure, olafski ;p |
| 12:06.49 | Kalroth | It's pretty simply really - even Sun doesn't like Java: http://www.archub.org/javamemo.txt |
| 12:06.54 | Kalroth | simple* |
| 12:06.59 | nevcairiel | one thousand is clearly 1,000 .. if 1k is 1.000 or 1.024 is a different matter :p |
| 12:07.01 | airtonix | lulz |
| 12:07.30 | Kalroth | "While the Java language provides many advantages over C and C++, its implementation on Solaris presents barriers to the delivery of reliable applications." |
| 12:09.04 | Kalroth | also 52% of the internet thinks that the JVM sucks: http://amplicate.com/sucks/jvm |
| 12:11.01 | foxlit | http://www.pastey.net/134687 << And that's in place of two commas. |
| 12:11.08 | nevcairiel | 52% of twitter users, thats the morons of the web, anyway |
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| 12:11.48 | Matsy | foxlit, there's some added functionality there ;p |
| 12:12.20 | foxlit | Matsy: about a method's worth |
| 12:12.58 | foxlit | I'd would've had to implement getList() and getBoolean() anyway, so it's hardly the extra stuff that's responsible for the padding. |
| 12:13.05 | foxlit | s/'d// |
| 12:14.18 | Fisker | 1k = 1000 |
| 12:15.09 | olafski | foxlit: you could've made all fields public ;) |
| 12:15.33 | foxlit | Fair enough. |
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| 12:22.53 | Fisker | slaps foxlit around a bit with a large trout |
| 12:23.00 | Fisker | slap'd |
| 12:23.54 | olafski | foxlit: probably not a good idea though.. then again, for such a wrapper it might be forgiven |
| 12:23.58 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/bird_love.jpg |
| 12:24.09 | olafski | aww |
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| 12:56.26 | zenzio | snuggles Lopeppeppy |
| 12:56.45 | Lopeppeppy | Good morning, zenzio. |
| 12:57.37 | DWSR | hails Lopeppeppy |
| 12:58.49 | Wobin | http://graphjam.com/2010/03/23/funny-graphs-gaga-steak/ |
| 12:59.05 | DWSR | hahahaha |
| 12:59.13 | zenzio | I'm not sure I get it |
| 12:59.18 | DWSR | Nice Wobin |
| 12:59.24 | Wobin | you need to listen to more Lady Gaga =) |
| 12:59.34 | zenzio | I see |
| 12:59.40 | Wobin | it's her birthday today! |
| 12:59.43 | Wobin | she's 24 |
| 12:59.55 | zenzio | % insane |
| 13:00.21 | Wobin | pft, at least 74 |
| 13:00.28 | Wobin | but doesn't look a percent over 34 |
| 13:01.00 | zenzio | I heard she didn't like it when some stewardesses tried to save her on a flight not long ago? |
| 13:02.47 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, DWSR |
| 13:03.31 | Lopeppeppy | She's insane, but she's pretty underneath it, and has some decent talent that you can catch peeking out sometimes. |
| 13:04.24 | zenzio | like many pop (sorry if that's the wrong genre) artists, I find that most of the songs the media pick up aren't very interesting, but the less famous ones can be all right |
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| 13:04.58 | zenzio | as to her underneathness, I'm not sure, but I could unwrap her sometime and check |
| 13:05.58 | Fisker | zenzio |
| 13:06.07 | Wobin | she's actually quite pretty, but does herself up to emphasize the more prominent features |
| 13:06.08 | Wobin | like the nose |
| 13:06.11 | Wobin | and teeth |
| 13:06.32 | Lopeppeppy | She kind of looks like Gwen Stephani to me. |
| 13:06.44 | zenzio | I am intrigued that there has become such speculation about whether or not she posesses male genitalia |
| 13:06.52 | DWSR | Perhaps she IS Gwen Stefani! |
| 13:07.05 | DWSR | s/posesses/posessed/ |
| 13:08.32 | zenzio | if you say so |
| 13:08.32 | Wobin | DWSR, that... would be such an awesome scam =) |
| 13:08.45 | Wobin | DWSR, but she has a better voice than Gwen |
| 13:09.14 | DWSR | opinion |
| 13:09.49 | zenzio | so maybe she specced into Voice |
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| 13:11.43 | Wobin | I dunno, you have to go pretty deep into the Kooky tree to get to Whacked Out |
| 13:11.54 | DanielAstbury | I need to make an addon that flashes giant letterson my screen when I try and tank without RF, seal of wisdom and blessing of sanctuary |
| 13:12.06 | DanielAstbury | that says "you noob" |
| 13:12.08 | Wobin | PowerAuras? |
| 13:12.47 | DWSR | DanielAstbury: PowerAuras. |
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| 13:12.50 | Gnarfoz | it should say "you noob" when tanking with seal of wisdom, too |
| 13:13.06 | DanielAstbury | i'm level 56 atm though |
| 13:13.06 | zenzio | <Wobin> I dunno, you have to go pretty deep into the Kooky tree to get to Whacked Out <-- most people settle for the lower-tier Whacked Off |
| 13:13.36 | Wobin | yeah, you have to be fairly dedicated. |
| 13:14.14 | DWSR | You have to spec deep into the tree, you mean? |
| 13:14.27 | zenzio | personally I specced too deep into Innuendo and left out Confidence, but I can't afford a respec |
| 13:14.36 | Wobin | That's what -she- said! |
| 13:14.41 | Fisker | slaps Wobin around a bit with a large trout |
| 13:15.30 | Kraps | whats wrong with tanking with SoW, it eliminates the noobish drinking after every pull |
| 13:16.30 | DWSR | Kraps: Divine Plea? kthx |
| 13:17.04 | Kraps | thats what i told my friend "zomg cooldown QQQQQQ" |
| 13:17.25 | DanielAstbury | when I get divine plea, what seal should i use for tanking, then? |
| 13:19.00 | Kraps | if Divine Plea is anything like elementals Thunderstorm than it should be great |
| 13:19.15 | DWSR | It's not. |
| 13:19.26 | DWSR | It has a 100% uptime and it's a steady stream of mana. |
| 13:19.32 | DWSR | It's more like Mana Spring. |
| 13:21.30 | Fisker | plants a bomb on Kraps |
| 13:21.36 | DWSR | Divine Plea + http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=53585 |
| 13:22.06 | Kraps | DWSR: hawt |
| 13:22.10 | DWSR | yeah. |
| 13:22.17 | DWSR | So your friend bitching about the cooldown is fucking stupid. |
| 13:22.39 | DWSR | As long as he swings more than once every 15 seconds, he's fine. |
| 13:23.17 | zenzio | DWSR, you nub |
| 13:23.27 | zenzio | all paladin tank weapons are 30 seconds swings |
| 13:23.33 | DWSR | oright. |
| 13:23.34 | DWSR | I forgot. |
| 13:23.35 | DWSR | Sorry. |
| 13:23.41 | DWSR | How silly of me. |
| 13:23.53 | zenzio | that's mostly because of the cast time on bubble and hearthstone |
| 13:24.18 | DanielAstbury | <3 |
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| 13:26.38 | Kraps | DWSR: BoSanc looks nice too |
| 13:27.56 | olafski | helps a lot with mana regen for sure |
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| 13:28.02 | olafski | especially if you always try to keep that shield thing up |
| 13:28.53 | Matsy | Too bad they screwed up replenishment for paladins |
| 13:29.14 | Matsy | At least, holy paladins |
| 13:29.15 | Matsy | In 3.3.3 |
| 13:29.25 | olafski | and with that shield thing I meant holy shield btw =) |
| 13:29.42 | zenzio | Matsy: how so? |
| 13:29.48 | Matsy | Mana regen is.. lower |
| 13:29.58 | Matsy | Far lower. |
| 13:30.03 | Matsy | According to EJ postings as well |
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| 13:32.18 | zenzio | Kaelten must have a lot on his mind |
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| 13:38.03 | Lopeppeppy | ~staple Kaelten |
| 13:38.04 | purl | ACTION attaches a staple gun to a pneumatic nail gun via duct tape, staples Kaelten quite well, and hands Kaelten to lopeppeppy |
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| 13:38.52 | Kaelten | lol |
| 13:38.53 | Kaelten | sorry |
| 13:39.03 | Kaelten | trying to figure out why my client excess floods me everytime I sign on |
| 13:39.24 | [Ammo] | because you're trying to join 100 channels at once |
| 13:39.26 | zenzio | got any fancy scripts? |
| 13:39.42 | zenzio | hm, just joining a lot of channels can cause excess flood? |
| 13:39.52 | Kaelten | zenzio: aparently |
| 13:40.01 | Kaelten | After turning that off I think It's behaving now |
| 13:40.03 | Kaelten | I think |
| 13:40.09 | zenzio | interesting, I thought it was only normal messages |
| 13:40.19 | DWSR | no |
| 13:40.22 | DWSR | It's an IRC related messages. |
| 13:40.25 | DWSR | err. |
| 13:40.27 | DWSR | IRC* messages |
| 13:40.32 | Kaelten | ya, pretty annoying |
| 13:40.54 | Kaelten | and I'm in 25 channels |
| 13:41.04 | Kaelten | so apareently that's past the magic number |
| 13:41.18 | DWSR | yes it is. |
| 13:41.21 | zenzio | 25 channels? o_O |
| 13:41.30 | Kaelten | ya, makes it harder to follow convos |
| 13:41.31 | DWSR | You need to get perms from Freenode to go past 10, I thought. |
| 13:41.44 | Kaelten | ya I think i used to be capped at 20 |
| 13:41.52 | Kaelten | but I just noticed I'm in 25 |
| 13:42.00 | Kaelten | so either they upped it or someone had pitty on me |
| 13:42.02 | zenzio | I get lost if I have 5 channels open |
| 13:42.07 | DWSR | That's probably why you're getting flooded off, tbh. |
| 13:42.28 | Kaelten | ya |
| 13:42.36 | Kaelten | I run through a znc, so I'm already logged into them all |
| 13:42.50 | Kaelten | so no reason to have the client send join reqs |
| 13:43.19 | DWSR | Yes there is. |
| 13:43.28 | DWSR | If your ZNC is configured to part all channels on client disconnection |
| 13:43.30 | olafski | 17 channels here =( most of them are either not very active or I just don't read them though |
| 13:44.52 | Kaelten | DWSR: it's not |
| 13:45.25 | DWSR | Is your IRC client set to autojoin when it connects to Freenode? |
| 13:45.46 | DWSR | and by Freenode, I mean youir ZNC |
| 13:45.47 | Kaelten | ya it was |
| 13:46.06 | Kaelten | so I just turned it off |
| 13:46.12 | Kaelten | about to restart again and hope for the best |
| 13:46.21 | Kaelten | figured I'd give all the channels I'm in a chance to rest from the flood spam |
| 13:51.47 | Fisker | blows up Kaelten |
| 13:53.15 | Kraps | mmo-champion is down |
| 13:53.32 | Kraps | Bibi hates us |
| 13:58.32 | Kaelten | woot! |
| 13:58.33 | Kaelten | it worked |
| 13:59.46 | Kraps | "It is worth noting that a circular argument may actually be both logically and factually correct" |
| 14:00.53 | Kraps | post hoc ergo propter hoc: believing that temporal succession implies a causal relation. * Example Argument: After Billy had his vaccine, he developed autism. Therefore, the vaccine caused autism. |
| 14:01.00 | Kraps | OH SNAP |
| 14:01.23 | Kraps | I KNEW WIKIPEDIA WAS BIASED |
| 14:01.25 | Kraps | :p |
| 14:03.09 | DWSR | How's that Bias? |
| 14:04.06 | Kraps | they're being payed off by the pro-vaccine groups!!!!1111 |
| 14:04.52 | Fisker | i'm gonna fuck you up Kraps |
| 14:05.51 | Kraps | whats a fisker? |
| 14:09.27 | Fisker | it's your worst nightmare |
| 14:11.33 | Kraps | lol |
| 14:17.30 | Kraps | theres no one available for normal PsI? |
| 14:17.37 | Kraps | PoS* |
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| 14:29.31 | Sesshu | hi |
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| 14:33.35 | kneeki | Morning everyone |
| 14:33.40 | Kraps | whats the story behind the feminist Vrykul? |
| 14:39.10 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=12947239102&sid=1 <-epic win if true |
| 14:41.30 | kneeki | Fisker: lol! |
| 14:41.36 | kneeki | That is really well done, for sure |
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| 14:48.02 | Sesshu | i thought there isn't a 15 minute debuff since patch 3.3.3 anymore |
| 14:48.16 | kneeki | It's 30 mins now I think |
| 14:48.27 | olafski | the debuff for leaving is still there |
| 14:48.38 | nevcairiel | its 30 when you leave now, iirc |
| 14:48.42 | nevcairiel | but the kick-timer is gone |
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| 14:48.58 | Sesshu | yep |
| 14:48.59 | olafski | aye |
| 14:49.07 | olafski | and the cooldown is still 15 minutes but it's not a debuff anymore |
| 14:49.48 | Sesshu | so at what timer he was watching (in the forum topic that fisker linked) |
| 14:51.33 | olafski | maybe it's an old story? |
| 14:51.59 | Sesshu | the is saying something about a kick reason |
| 14:52.15 | Sesshu | so it can't |
| 14:52.17 | Sesshu | :P |
| 14:52.24 | olafski | hmm |
| 14:52.31 | olafski | good catch :) |
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| 14:53.56 | olafski | I'll make a reply unless you want the credit for that one :) |
| 14:55.21 | Sesshu | do it |
| 14:55.31 | Sesshu | doesn't matter |
| 14:55.32 | alestane | http://www.commissionedcomic.com/?p=2221 Today's the day the teddy bears have their piiicnic. |
| 14:55.54 | jnwhiteh | Is there a [stance] conditional for death knight auras? |
| 14:56.15 | olafski | if there is, it's probably also called stance |
| 14:56.19 | olafski | have never tried it though |
| 14:56.25 | jnwhiteh | well [stance:1] and friends don't seem to work |
| 14:56.37 | jnwhiteh | /cast [stance:0] Frost Presence |
| 14:56.40 | jnwhiteh | for example |
| 14:56.42 | olafski | hm |
| 14:56.54 | alestane | There is not, presumably because presences don't change the availability of actions. |
| 14:56.56 | olafski | do you want to alternate between two or three stances? |
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| 14:57.07 | jnwhiteh | alestane: fair enough |
| 14:57.16 | jnwhiteh | olafski: i was just asking for information, I don't really want to do anything =) |
| 14:57.20 | olafski | else you may get away with /cast !Frost Presence; /cast !Unholy Presence |
| 14:57.21 | olafski | ah okay |
| 14:57.41 | olafski | this was also Just A Guess btw ;) |
| 14:58.01 | jnwhiteh | trying to figure out how to make Clique2 the most useful. |
| 14:58.49 | Matsy | People other than.. healers use Clique? |
| 14:58.56 | Matsy | *then |
| 14:59.00 | jnwhiteh | yes, but that is irrelevant |
| 14:59.30 | Matsy | Well, I've been trying to configure it for other classes, but it just didn't seem necessary, I would love to see some other results |
| 14:59.46 | jnwhiteh | hostile shift click for sheeping on my mage |
| 14:59.54 | jnwhiteh | for one |
| 15:00.02 | Matsy | Oh, of course! |
| 15:00.14 | Matsy | You can use it on the opponent as well ;p |
| 15:00.24 | olafski | misdirect |
| 15:00.27 | olafski | tott |
| 15:00.56 | olafski | would be nice if clique would just work on all unitframes (and hovering over actual units / nameplates) instead of just the ones that register themselves :$ |
| 15:00.59 | alestane | Are you planning to incorporate an avatar clicking option into Clique2, jnwhiteh? |
| 15:01.10 | jnwhiteh | if its possible, possibly |
| 15:01.13 | jnwhiteh | but its hhard to tell |
| 15:01.21 | jnwhiteh | how would one do that? |
| 15:01.25 | jnwhiteh | olafski: I have no intention of doing that |
| 15:01.31 | olafski | :( |
| 15:01.31 | jnwhiteh | it will _always_ be opt-in |
| 15:01.41 | jnwhiteh | write a simple addon that registers all frames |
| 15:01.42 | olafski | what's an avatar clicking option? |
| 15:01.55 | jnwhiteh | alestane: I'm fairly sure it wouldn't work correctly |
| 15:02.01 | olafski | jnwhiteh: I started on that for vuhdo but I got bored pretty quickly.. had no clue how to get the names of all vuhdo frames |
| 15:02.01 | jnwhiteh | and if its not consistent I wont do it |
| 15:02.30 | jnwhiteh | why would you need clique on your vuhdu frames? |
| 15:02.33 | jnwhiteh | can't you just configure them as you'd like? |
| 15:02.50 | olafski | I'd prefer to configure all shortcuts at once rather than copy the clique settings into vuhdo or the other way around |
| 15:03.03 | jnwhiteh | then talk to the vuhdo autor =) |
| 15:03.05 | alestane | It's a bit of a trick, but the chapter I sent on secure handlers had an example on how to do it. |
| 15:03.22 | olafski | the vuhdo author seems.. less than willing to take any suggestions unless his girlfriend is the one suggesting :P |
| 15:03.27 | jnwhiteh | its probably too much of a trick for it o work wit hclique. |
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| 15:03.58 | olafski | I don't really mind either way as I use Grid though :P |
| 15:04.33 | Matsy | Clique works .. like a charm with SUF, so I am happy <3 |
| 15:04.40 | olafski | that it does :) |
| 15:04.52 | Fisker | i actually have a better idea olafski |
| 15:04.55 | Fisker | don't use vuhdo |
| 15:04.58 | Fisker | it sucks |
| 15:05.03 | olafski | hence why I don't use it |
| 15:05.05 | Matsy | I just can't get myself to .. use Grid, I guess it's too complicated for me ;p |
| 15:05.06 | olafski | but my gf likes it |
| 15:05.11 | Fisker | she sucks too |
| 15:05.14 | olafski | yes |
| 15:05.15 | Fisker | literally |
| 15:05.31 | olafski | matsy: you can just use the raid portion of SUF to get pretty much the same result |
| 15:05.36 | olafski | with more customization even, it seems |
| 15:05.40 | DWSR | olafski: Less. |
| 15:05.43 | olafski | I'm used to grid so I stick with that though, for raids |
| 15:05.57 | olafski | SUF for party / player / target frames =) |
| 15:06.00 | Matsy | Well, that's the problem, grid doesn't show enough information for me in order to keep everyone alive |
| 15:06.03 | DWSR | Grid is much more customizable that SUF's raid frames, but for anyone but a healer it shouldn't really matter. |
| 15:06.12 | foxlit | I recently got rid of my party frames |
| 15:06.20 | foxlit | Found that I was healing 5-mans using grid anyway |
| 15:06.26 | olafski | what information are you missing matsy? |
| 15:06.32 | treykee | is there anyone that can tell me how to hide the clock frame that's below the minimap? |
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| 15:06.52 | Matsy | Well, for one, the healbar on unitframes would never be large enough |
| 15:07.07 | Matsy | With healbar, I mean the bar when I cast a heal, so it shows for how much the target would've been healed |
| 15:07.39 | Matsy | I mean, I can probably configure Grid like that, I am quite sure of it |
| 15:07.45 | Matsy | Gah, I'm going to try it |
| 15:07.49 | olafski | yes, I think you can ;) |
| 15:07.49 | DWSR | You can. |
| 15:08.05 | Matsy | Starting off with heroics to test it out, then ;p |
| 15:08.05 | olafski | I think I'm going to try using SUF raid frames so I can drop grid sometime |
| 15:08.08 | DWSR | olafski: Grid is much better than SUF for raid frames because that's all that SUF does. |
| 15:08.12 | DWSR | err. |
| 15:08.16 | DWSR | s/SUF does/Grid does/ |
| 15:08.31 | Matsy | DWSR, For healers as well? |
| 15:08.32 | DWSR | The other advantage of Grid is that it has lots of plugins for different things like HoT status. |
| 15:08.35 | olafski | wow that type of reasoning is so flawed I'm not even going to bother :P |
| 15:08.40 | jnwhiteh | ouf_freebgrid |
| 15:08.48 | jnwhiteh | i dont have to configure it or download anyting more |
| 15:08.56 | DWSR | jnwhiteh: Until ouf_healcomm gets fixed, noty. |
| 15:08.57 | jnwhiteh | or perfectraid, if that asshole author ever updates it. |
| 15:09.08 | jnwhiteh | what is wrong with ouf_hc/ |
| 15:09.21 | DWSR | Someone was hacking at it to fix it in here a little while ago. |
| 15:09.26 | DWSR | I think that's why they were hacking at it. |
| 15:10.02 | jnwhiteh | HoN is still down =/ |
| 15:10.03 | olafski | hm think I'll try this tonight even.. can always pop into AV to test it out in a raid setting anyway |
| 15:10.12 | jnwhiteh | or maybe not? |
| 15:10.15 | Matsy | Oh! |
| 15:10.19 | Matsy | olafski, that's an even better idea |
| 15:10.22 | jnwhiteh | yay! |
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| 15:10.38 | Matsy | Okay, installed Grid again, here goes nothing ;p |
| 15:11.59 | olafski | yeah AV is a perfect testing ground for raid settings since it doesn't matter if you fail ;) |
| 15:12.19 | olafski | I think I'll just use the same settings on raid frames as on party frames and it should be fine |
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| 15:12.22 | DWSR | yeah. |
| 15:12.30 | DWSR | The only thing I really dislike about Grid is there's no configuration mode. |
| 15:12.34 | olafski | I still use decursive with it anyway |
| 15:12.37 | olafski | yeah that would be really nice |
| 15:14.38 | Ackis | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/funny-pictures-cat-stalks-pomeranian.jpg POM :D |
| 15:15.25 | DWSR | pom pyro |
| 15:15.27 | Matsy | ah |
| 15:15.37 | Matsy | Grid doesn't have sacred shield in it |
| 15:15.38 | Matsy | :( |
| 15:15.47 | olafski | add it manually :) |
| 15:15.56 | Matsy | Can I actually do that? |
| 15:16.04 | olafski | I believe so |
| 15:16.09 | Matsy | Oh, right! |
| 15:16.10 | Matsy | yes |
| 15:17.46 | alestane | Has anyone already found a source for what's in the micro-patch I just downloaded, or should I go searching? |
| 15:18.42 | olafski | no clue.. there are some recent bugfixes posted though, maybe that's in there :) |
| 15:19.28 | Matsy | oh my |
| 15:19.30 | Matsy | grid is awesome |
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| 15:21.36 | Matsy | Oh, someone here might know, in the buff panel, how do I make a difference between the ability Sacred Shield and the buff that it causes? |
| 15:21.44 | Matsy | They both have the same name |
| 15:21.54 | Gagorian | If there's a way to separate the texture you can |
| 15:21.59 | Gagorian | Or spell ID |
| 15:22.05 | Matsy | In grid? |
| 15:22.10 | Gagorian | but if it's the old grid I really doubt they have spellID separation |
| 15:22.20 | Matsy | uh |
| 15:22.24 | Matsy | I just downloaded the newest version today |
| 15:22.30 | Gagorian | Grid or Grid2? |
| 15:22.40 | Kraps | Matsy: i have grid and clique and still suck at healing |
| 15:22.56 | Matsy | Oh, grid. |
| 15:23.14 | Matsy | Should I get Grid2 then? |
| 15:23.22 | Matsy | Hahaha, Kraps. |
| 15:23.29 | Matsy | How'd that come? |
| 15:24.04 | olafski | alestane: ah, the patch notes are actually posted |
| 15:24.11 | olafski | http://www.mmo-champion.com/news-2/lich-king-25-heroic-world-first-kill-by-paragon/ |
| 15:25.18 | alestane | I figured they were bugfixes of some kind. |
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| 15:35.04 | DWSR | I just saw someone who claimed that he couldn't spend his last 5 talent points because he maxed out ret. |
| 15:35.13 | DWSR | s/someone/a paladin/ |
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| 15:36.16 | alestane | <cogwheel>l2diversify</cogwheel> |
| 15:36.27 | DWSR | l2uninstall, imo |
| 15:41.00 | p3lim | What scripts can a statusbar frame have? |
| 15:41.02 | zenzelezz | hm, that's actually possible... never thought about that |
| 15:41.12 | zenzelezz | (@ "maxing ret") |
| 15:41.31 | alestane | !api StatusBar |
| 15:41.32 | lua_bot | Found 12 possible results for 'StatusBar': StatusBar:SetStatusBarTexture, StatusBar:GetMinMaxValues, StatusBar:GetRotatesTexture, StatusBar:SetValue, StatusBar:GetStatusBarTexture, StatusBar:SetMinMaxValues, StatusBar:GetValue, StatusBar:SetStatusBarColor, StatusBar:SetRotatesTexture, StatusBar:SetOrientation, StatusBar:GetStatusBarColor, StatusBar:GetOrientation |
| 15:41.38 | alestane | meh |
| 15:41.53 | zenzelezz | p3lim: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/scripts ctrl+f statusbar ctrl+enter |
| 15:42.21 | alestane | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/StatusBar |
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| 16:05.04 | DWSR | zenzelezz: Yes. It requires 66 points |
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| 16:13.36 | Fisker | plants a bomb |
| 16:13.48 | industrial | kills a Fisker |
| 16:15.45 | Fisker | am invincible |
| 16:16.19 | Kraps | which healing tree has the talent that cleanses while healing? |
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| 16:17.17 | Kraps | or something like that |
| 16:17.45 | Fisker | retribution |
| 16:18.20 | Kraps | orly |
| 16:19.22 | Fisker | yarly |
| 16:19.39 | Kraps | notrly |
| 16:22.29 | Fisker | yes really |
| 16:22.47 | Fisker | Retribution has no problems cleansing the undead while healing himself or his allies |
| 16:23.42 | Ackis | ~seen cralor |
| 16:23.43 | purl | cralor <~cralor@c-98-216-219-153.hsd1.ma.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 9d 21h 26m 46s ago, saying: 'Kraps: articles'. |
| 16:25.28 | Fisker | ~seen Ackis |
| 16:25.29 | purl | ackis is currently on #waruidev (3h 47s) #sc2mapster (3h 47s) #wowuidev (3h 47s) #arl (3h 47s) #wowace (3h 47s) #curseforge (3h 47s). Has said a total of 3 messages. Is idling for 1m 47s, last said: '~seen cralor'. |
| 16:25.38 | Ackis | ~seen Fisker |
| 16:25.39 | purl | fisker is currently on #sc2mapster (16h 44m 41s) #wowuidev (16h 44m 41s) #wowace (16h 44m 41s). Has said a total of 88 messages. Is idling for 11s, last said: '~seen Ackis'. |
| 16:32.05 | Gnarfoz | Kraps: that's a glyph |
| 16:32.12 | Kraps | link? |
| 16:33.12 | Kraps | or what class? |
| 16:35.43 | Gnarfoz | or was it a set bonus? I don't even remember anymore |
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| 16:35.54 | Zergreth | heya |
| 16:35.57 | Gnarfoz | but I heard wowhead recently got a "Search" feature! |
| 16:36.07 | Zergreth | ever since 3.3.3 i'm having some issues with textures |
| 16:36.21 | Kraps | Gnarfoz: what do you suggest i enter? :) |
| 16:36.33 | Zergreth | several textures created by addons look strange, like they change opacity or sharpness or something gradually from left to right |
| 16:36.38 | Gnarfoz | the names of all dispels, they are not that many ;) |
| 16:36.45 | Zergreth | anybody else experiencing the same problems? and, are there any solutions? |
| 16:37.34 | Gnarfoz | Zergreth: texture tiling "bug", authors work around it so far. if an addon you use still has the problem, update, or if there is no update available, contact the author |
| 16:37.42 | Gnarfoz | Kraps: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=42397 |
| 16:38.10 | Zergreth | Gnarfoz, am an author myself. how to work around this issue? |
| 16:38.23 | Gnarfoz | that, I am not sure of. :D |
| 16:38.27 | Zergreth | dammit |
| 16:38.35 | Zergreth | know any addon that got it fixed? |
| 16:38.44 | Zergreth | this looks so stupid :/ |
| 16:39.03 | Gnarfoz | quartz, x-perl |
| 16:39.09 | Fisker | shadowed unitframes |
| 16:39.12 | Gnarfoz | that, too |
| 16:39.29 | Zergreth | i'll look into suf then. quartz and x-perl would be a pain in the arse |
| 16:39.34 | Zergreth | thanks |
| 16:39.36 | Arathros | 603431 |
| 16:39.40 | Kraps | Gnarfoz: im trying to figure out why yesterdays Grobbulus failed so hard; the poisons were dropping off people immediately after being put on |
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| 16:40.00 | Arathros | now that colorcode is down. sorry for the spam ;) |
| 16:40.10 | Gnarfoz | why are you doing grobbulus? :D |
| 16:40.25 | Ackis | http://www.alienwarearena.com/event/dragon-age-giveaway/ |
| 16:40.45 | Arathros | ever since 3.3.3 I've had UF problems with player health |
| 16:40.49 | Fisker | no Ackis |
| 16:40.50 | Gnarfoz | Ackis: http://www.dragonage-online.com/event/alienware-giveaway/ |
| 16:41.18 | Kraps | Gnarfoz: "superquick naxx25 run yay!" |
| 16:41.25 | Gnarfoz | tehehe |
| 16:41.41 | Gnarfoz | well, if you have logs, you'll pretty certainly find some moron who simply dispelled them |
| 16:42.05 | Kraps | dont have :( |
| 16:42.07 | Ackis | hmm that key didn't give me an xbox one :( |
| 16:43.11 | Fisker | it just stopped working for me Ackis :( |
| 16:43.16 | Fisker | oh |
| 16:43.25 | Fisker | Dragon Age Exclusive Item Giveaway |
| 16:43.25 | Fisker | Sorry, this promotion is not open to your region. |
| 16:43.26 | Fisker | they hate me |
| 16:43.28 | Fisker | VPN TIEMS |
| 16:43.43 | Fisker | better logout from wow |
| 16:43.52 | Fisker | don't want to be banned 15 minutes before a raid :D |
| 16:44.26 | Gnarfoz | or add a route to your realm that goes over your normal connection, Fisker |
| 16:45.26 | nevcairiel | why would you be banned for connecting from another ip o.o |
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| 16:47.03 | Zergreth | anybody else got more information on that texture tiling bug? |
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| 16:47.25 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: quickly connecting from IPs from very far away (geographically) locations raises alerts ^^ |
| 16:47.39 | Gnarfoz | Zergreth: nevcairiel might, he does quartz these days ;) |
| 16:47.44 | Zergreth | oh+ |
| 16:47.49 | Zergreth | i wasn't aware of that |
| 16:47.54 | Zergreth | nevcairiel! *shouts* |
| 16:47.56 | `-FISKER_Q | but how Gnarfoz ? |
| 16:48.35 | Gnarfoz | `-FISKER_Q: route add serverip mask 255.255.255.255 yourrouterip |
| 16:48.51 | Gnarfoz | (on an admin command prompt) |
| 16:49.25 | `-FISKER_Q | i'm sure the check is done on the login server |
| 16:49.30 | `-FISKER_Q | so i have to add like a billion routes |
| 16:49.35 | Gnarfoz | could *possibly* need "IF correctnumberofyournetworkconnection" tacked onto it at the end, but I've never figured out how to determine that number, lol |
| 16:49.51 | `-FISKER_Q | not gonna risk it anyhow |
| 16:50.00 | `-FISKER_Q | getting through to billing is a bitch |
| 16:50.08 | Gnarfoz | I no rite |
| 16:50.09 | Gnarfoz | =\ |
| 16:50.24 | `-FISKER_Q | yeah |
| 16:50.25 | Gnarfoz | why is Groktar never here |
| 16:50.27 | `-FISKER_Q | no mobile phones :( |
| 16:50.30 | Gnarfoz | ~seen groktar |
| 16:50.31 | purl | groktar <~rg@c-67-182-103-122.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 1d 13h 44m 14s ago, saying: 'Rockj: when is it *not* trickier than expected?'. |
| 16:50.32 | `-FISKER_Q | and queues |
| 16:50.44 | Gnarfoz | mobile phones is not the problem, queues is |
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| 16:50.58 | Gnarfoz | "whelp, you've been in the queue for 5 minutes, try again later. *click*" |
| 16:51.01 | `-FISKER_Q | both are here |
| 16:52.32 | Zergreth | alright, found a way to fix the tiling bug after checking the source of quartz |
| 16:52.41 | Zergreth | thanks nevcairiel, i guess |
| 16:52.53 | nevcairiel | it doesnt actually fix it |
| 16:53.01 | nevcairiel | it just looks different |
| 16:53.03 | nevcairiel | but still bugged |
| 16:53.07 | nevcairiel | i noticed that afterwards :P |
| 16:53.09 | Zergreth | yea, workaround, then |
| 16:53.21 | Arathros | anyone had aguf + xperl player health bug? |
| 16:53.21 | Zergreth | it doesn't look as fucked up |
| 16:53.24 | Arathros | doesnt update |
| 16:53.32 | Zergreth | nevcairiel, what exactly causes this, anyway? |
| 16:53.48 | Zergreth | is it a "bug", or really a bug? |
| 16:54.07 | `-FISKER_Q | they removed texture tiling which was intended i believe |
| 16:54.18 | `-FISKER_Q | they're adding a replacement for it in a future patch |
| 16:54.22 | `-FISKER_Q | apparently |
| 16:54.42 | Arathros | well new patch equal 2 things not updating. and as stupid as player health lol but works on all others.. even if ToT is yourself it shows the real one |
| 16:54.43 | Zergreth | stupid |
| 16:55.03 | nevcairiel | they added a replacement, but it seems to be bugged |
| 16:55.19 | Zergreth | i hate blizzard for this shit :/ |
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| 17:05.46 | Kraps | riptide's hot can crit right? |
| 17:06.40 | DWSR | yes. |
| 17:08.06 | Kraps | i just got http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50259#comments |
| 17:08.12 | Kraps | meh for shammies |
| 17:09.37 | Kraps | 20% crit is insane though |
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| 17:12.57 | `-FISKER_Q | slaps Kraps around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:13.46 | Kraps | bombs `-FISKER_Q |
| 17:14.34 | cog|away | peanos `-FISKER_Q's arithmetic |
| 17:18.54 | `-FISKER_Q | no cog|work |
| 17:18.55 | `-FISKER_Q | don't do it |
| 17:29.25 | `-FISKER_Q | oh my god |
| 17:29.31 | `-FISKER_Q | that's why my dps sucked a bit |
| 17:29.40 | `-FISKER_Q | i forgot to put my new ret t10-25 man into my equipment |
| 17:29.46 | `-FISKER_Q | so i was using t10 protection in my ret equipment |
| 17:29.48 | `-FISKER_Q | durrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
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| 17:34.41 | Stanzilla | gz |
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| 17:38.12 | Thunder_Child | `-FISKER_Q: i think you are forgetting a 'Q' |
| 17:41.34 | Fisker | die in hell Thunder_Child |
| 17:42.42 | Kraps | wouldnt he already be dead... |
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| 17:46.43 | mikma | wobwork: http://www.geekologie.com/2010/03/good_job_kids_a_childrens_choi.php |
| 17:49.28 | Thunder_Child | there are exceptions to every rule Fisker |
| 17:52.55 | Fisker | indoctrination mikma! |
| 17:54.29 | mikma | troll+ fisker |
| 17:59.08 | Dagmar | Grrr... We need to somehow smuggle more CPU cycles into the Bazaar |
| 18:00.57 | Gnarfoz | ask a git, they won't mind |
| 18:01.34 | Dagmar | Latency on the site is in _tens of seconds_ during the day |
| 18:02.59 | Fisker | i wouldn't mikma |
| 18:03.25 | mikma | and you did it yet again |
| 18:07.57 | Torhal | Fisker: http://gucomics.com/comic/?cdate=20100326 |
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| 18:11.39 | Aqua | anyone else just froze in game? |
| 18:12.16 | alestane | I can't auth to battle.net anymore. |
| 18:12.40 | Aqua | just disconnects you? |
| 18:12.43 | Aqua | wonderful.. |
| 18:21.23 | Fisker | old Torhal |
| 18:22.04 | Shirik | fox news |
| 18:22.05 | Shirik | omg |
| 18:22.08 | Shirik | how much I hate you |
| 18:22.18 | alestane | What have they perpetrated naw? |
| 18:22.20 | alestane | now* |
| 18:22.47 | Fisker | if only i were a republican troll i could get a job there |
| 18:23.27 | Shirik | alestane: "We'll have a look at this case that is unlike any I have ever seen" |
| 18:23.39 | Shirik | I know it happened a year ago |
| 18:23.42 | Shirik | and I don't even watch news |
| 18:24.15 | alestane | Newscasters, unfortunately, are experts at looking good on camera, not at understanding source material. |
| 18:24.33 | Lunessa | Trying to explain User folders and the Windows 7 libraries conventions to someone who doesn't understand hierarchical file systems. Please, kill me now. |
| 18:25.03 | Shirik | trying to explain windows 7 libraries == suicide |
| 18:26.05 | Lunessa | I should crack down on the suicide pill buried in the false molar. |
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| 18:30.04 | Shirik | needs a valgrind for windows :( |
| 18:30.12 | Shirik | all visual studio will tell me is HEAP[CollabRC.exe]: HEAP: Free Heap block 24c5ce0 modified at 24c5d0c after it was freed |
| 18:30.16 | Shirik | NOT HELPFUL |
| 18:31.13 | Lunessa | What, you want to know what tried to modify, not just where it was? *tsk* |
| 18:31.35 | Shirik | I don't make it a point to memorize the location of all of my variables in memory |
| 18:31.59 | Lunessa | Shirik: Did I neglect my <droll/> tag? |
| 18:32.11 | Shirik | :P |
| 18:32.42 | DanielAstbury | Shirik: debugger ftw ... |
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| 18:33.11 | Kalroth | eeey Fisker |
| 18:33.12 | Shirik | a conventional debugger is not going to help with that error |
| 18:33.27 | Shirik | Valgrind would, but valgrind does not run on windows |
| 18:33.47 | DanielAstbury | err, visual studio's debugger works fine with that type of exception |
| 18:33.59 | Shirik | It's not an exception |
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| 18:34.24 | Shirik | It is merely an end-of-program debugging check to ensure the heap was not corrupted, and it was, so it's going "hey you fucked up somewhere" and leaving it at that |
| 18:34.26 | DanielAstbury | what you mean it's a linker/compiler error? |
| 18:34.55 | Shirik | there's no crash, in fact if that message didn't appear I wouldn't know anything's wrong |
| 18:34.56 | kneeki | Anyone want to sell a SC2 key? -.- |
| 18:35.31 | DanielAstbury | shirik then you need to check your code. Keep the program frozen and check vars untill you find it |
| 18:36.02 | Shirik | no, I'm just going to recompile it on linux and use a real tool |
| 18:36.36 | DanielAstbury | I usually only get that if I miss out copy constructors on classes, for example. |
| 18:37.10 | Shirik | I don't even allocate heap memory, so there's something really strange going on |
| 18:37.42 | Ackis | kneeki: try #sc2mapster you might have more luck in there (with someone even giving you one maybe :P) |
| 18:37.56 | Shirik | licks Ackis |
| 18:38.20 | DanielAstbury | why don't you just find a reference to 24c5d0c then |
| 18:38.26 | kneeki | Ackis: I don't mind paying for one at all. I just want to play it so badly -.- |
| 18:38.26 | Ackis | gets licked! |
| 18:38.48 | kneeki | Two of my RL friends have beta keys, the three of us beeen playing SC together for years upon years. :( |
| 18:38.49 | Shirik | DanielAstbury: Because by the time I get that message, it's long gone |
| 18:38.59 | Shirik | this message comes after main returns |
| 18:39.03 | Shirik | and all threads are shut down |
| 18:39.14 | Shirik | it is literally the last thing CRTD does |
| 18:39.17 | DanielAstbury | go to assembler view then |
| 18:39.26 | Shirik | would be worthless |
| 18:39.28 | DanielAstbury | nope |
| 18:39.44 | DanielAstbury | in that view, it still shows function addresses as function names instead |
| 18:40.01 | DanielAstbury | so at least you might know which function / class member is happening in. |
| 18:40.07 | Shirik | 24c5d0c is a variable location on the heap |
| 18:40.08 | DanielAstbury | then you can track it in all of your code |
| 18:40.11 | Shirik | it's not going to be related to a function |
| 18:40.12 | DanielAstbury | yes, I know |
| 18:40.16 | DanielAstbury | i never said it was |
| 18:40.37 | Shirik | then what the heck does a function address have to do with any of this |
| 18:40.56 | DanielAstbury | i never said anything about a function address |
| 18:41.03 | Shirik | (14:39:40) (DanielAstbury) in that view, it still shows function addresses as function names instead |
| 18:41.38 | DanielAstbury | yes, so when you find whatever references that block of memory, you can easily disassemble it to your relevent code |
| 18:42.00 | Cide | is Fisker in here? |
| 18:42.03 | Cide | yes... |
| 18:42.13 | Cide | was thinking he'd changed name to DanielAstbury for a bit |
| 18:42.24 | Ackis | I see what you did there Cide |
| 18:42.26 | DanielAstbury | what you need to do is add a break point before main() returns, and then you can have a go at finding it |
| 18:42.36 | Thunder_Child | hey Cide, is that stick still bothering you? |
| 18:42.42 | Shirik | how could that be remotely possible, when I don't even get the message until after main returns? |
| 18:42.46 | Cide | I don't have a stick |
| 18:43.00 | Shirik | I'm not psychic, I can't know what address it's going to be at |
| 18:43.00 | Thunder_Child | it's there |
| 18:43.01 | Cide | unless you're talking about the one up your ass? |
| 18:43.14 | DanielAstbury | ...because you can just check variables in your program for the address. |
| 18:43.24 | Shirik | what address? |
| 18:43.53 | DanielAstbury | 0x24c5d0c |
| 18:44.03 | Shirik | it's not going to be in the same place every time |
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| 18:44.21 | DanielAstbury | not unless you keep recompiling, no |
| 18:44.27 | Ackis | Cide: Up your ass... is that a function address? |
| 18:44.37 | Shirik | it's a heap allocated variable |
| 18:44.37 | Cide | it could be |
| 18:44.40 | DanielAstbury | so |
| 18:44.40 | Shirik | it's going to move every time, period |
| 18:44.44 | Shirik | unless I get really lucky |
| 18:44.52 | DanielAstbury | I could quite easily prove you wrong |
| 18:44.59 | Shirik | it goes wherever the OS decides it wants to put it |
| 18:45.20 | Shirik | any deviation from that is either (1) a trivial program or (2) sheer luck |
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| 18:45.39 | Matsy | Or ASLR. |
| 18:47.00 | Matsy | But.. that won't happen there :+ |
| 18:47.21 | DanielAstbury | well, it's worked for me always in large programs. I can't help you any more than that i'm afraid. |
| 18:47.53 | Shirik | the heap is the heap. The OS gives you whatever address it feels like so it can fit. That's what it is. |
| 18:48.27 | Matsy | Well, applications can definitely modify that :+ |
| 18:48.38 | Shirik | by not using the heap, or by using the heap illegally |
| 18:48.47 | Matsy | Most likely the latter |
| 18:49.00 | Shirik | I don't count "allocating a 2GB block and then allocating on my own" "using the heap" either |
| 18:49.24 | Shirik | though I've seen it done ._. |
| 18:49.26 | Matsy | Well, as I said, ASLR can modify heap applocation and positioning. |
| 18:49.27 | Shirik | not 2GB though |
| 18:49.37 | Matsy | *allocation, too |
| 18:49.38 | Cide | Shirik: ...why? |
| 18:49.46 | Shirik | "efficiency" |
| 18:49.47 | Cide | is there ever a valid reason to do that |
| 18:49.57 | Shirik | note the quotes |
| 18:50.01 | Cide | right |
| 18:50.20 | Cide | I wouldn't trust my own competence to do it better than the OS at the very least |
| 18:50.27 | Matsy | Shirik, examples! :) |
| 18:50.31 | Matsy | Haha, I would love to see that |
| 18:51.03 | Shirik | anyway |
| 18:51.07 | Shirik | Cide, make me a valgrind for windows |
| 18:51.13 | Cide | rofl |
| 18:51.15 | Cide | yeah right |
| 18:51.39 | Cide | once I get un-busy at school I have our existing project to worry about |
| 18:51.44 | Dagmar | 10 print "Exploitable buffer overflow detected."; 20 goto 10. |
| 18:51.46 | Dagmar | Done! |
| 18:51.49 | Shirik | lol |
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| 18:52.56 | Matsy | Shirik, something like valgrind exists on Windows, if I may respond to it :+ |
| 18:53.05 | Shirik | you talking about that intel program? |
| 18:53.08 | Matsy | Nah. |
| 18:53.08 | Shirik | forget what it's called |
| 18:53.31 | Matsy | Talking about the binaries in the Debugging Tools for Windows package. |
| 18:53.36 | Shirik | oh yeah |
| 18:53.37 | Matsy | It's in the WDK |
| 18:53.38 | Kraps | catch you guys in a couple of days |
| 18:53.43 | Shirik | yeah, VS has those integrated |
| 18:53.47 | Matsy | That as well. |
| 18:53.49 | Shirik | but for some reason it's not picking up this error |
| 18:53.55 | Shirik | actually not sure why it's not |
| 18:54.27 | Matsy | What error is it? Or, should I read back for that? |
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| 18:55.04 | Shirik | HEAP[CollabRC.exe]: HEAP: Free Heap block f45ce0 modified at f45d0c after it was freed |
| 18:55.04 | Shirik | Windows has triggered a breakpoint in CollabRC.exe. |
| 18:55.17 | Shirik | modification of unallocated data |
| 18:55.26 | Matsy | You don't get a call-stack? |
| 18:55.45 | foxlit | Matsy: on that error, it usually isn't useful |
| 18:55.49 | Shirik | it's worthless |
| 18:55.54 | Shirik | it dumps me into the middle of the CRT |
| 18:55.56 | Matsy | Depending on the code, it might be. |
| 18:55.57 | Matsy | Oh, right |
| 18:55.59 | foxlit | Since the heck occurs when you again invoke the standard library for allocation |
| 18:57.08 | Shirik | no big deal I'll just compile it on Linux and find the problem with valgrind |
| 18:57.14 | Shirik | I'm sure it's something very simple |
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| 18:59.13 | Shirik | heh, this is an interesting error I missed though: ASSERT failure in QMutex::lock: "Internal error, infinite wait has timed out.", file thread\qmutex.cpp, line 169 |
| 18:59.27 | DWSR | Internal error, infinite wait has timed out. <-- paradox. |
| 18:59.40 | Cide | funny |
| 18:59.54 | Cide | the infinite wait timed out |
| 19:00.01 | foxlit | It's an assertion |
| 19:00.11 | Cide | stop ruining my fun |
| 19:00.13 | DWSR | ^ |
| 19:01.17 | DWSR | Life is better without a shirt on |
| 19:02.00 | Shirik | especially when there are females involved |
| 19:02.14 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.3.x ToC: 30300 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Blizzcon 2010 Oct 22 & 23 | "Internal error, infinite wait has timed out." |
| 19:02.31 | Shirik | pokes Cairenn |
| 19:02.36 | Cairenn | pokes Shirik |
| 19:03.07 | Cide | Shirik: only if they are the shirtless subjects and not oneself |
| 19:03.16 | Cide | in which case it's mostly frustrating |
| 19:04.32 | zenzelezz | I don't know... it can be quite thrilling if all they wear is the shirt |
| 19:04.59 | DWSR | Weapons are the lowest budgeted piece of equipment, correct? |
| 19:06.31 | foxlit | umm. No? |
| 19:06.37 | foxlit | Maybe? |
| 19:06.43 | foxlit | How would you compare? |
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| 19:09.23 | Matsy | Pfsh, wars are insanely pricy :+ |
| 19:09.54 | Matsy | 'The department will spend over $47 billion on healthcare in FY10.' |
| 19:10.44 | Ackis | Fisker: does my gtx 285 have physx? |
| 19:10.55 | Matsy | Lol, and 13 billion dollars for a presidential helicopter |
| 19:11.09 | Matsy | Yes, Ackis |
| 19:11.28 | Matsy | Almost every card since like the 8600 series do ;p |
| 19:11.36 | DWSR | Ackis: Yes. Everything that's 8500+ does, I think |
| 19:11.39 | Matsy | s/do/does |
| 19:11.46 | Matsy | ah :( |
| 19:11.48 | Matsy | I tried to copycat |
| 19:11.48 | DWSR | regex fail. |
| 19:11.54 | DWSR | need a trailing / |
| 19:11.54 | Matsy | But, I think I messed a / somewhere |
| 19:12.00 | DWSR | s/do/does/ |
| 19:12.09 | Matsy | s/think/know/ |
| 19:12.09 | DWSR | www.regular-expressions.info |
| 19:12.24 | DanielAstbury | nerds :D |
| 19:12.37 | DWSR | s/www.regular-expressions.info/You are a complete failure, DanielAstbury/ |
| 19:12.42 | DWSR | :D |
| 19:12.44 | DanielAstbury | :) |
| 19:12.45 | Matsy | Hah! |
| 19:12.49 | DWSR | anyway |
| 19:12.52 | Ackis | Fisker: http://www.maingearforums.com/entry.php?23-So-You-Want-To-Buy-A-GeForce |
| 19:13.00 | DWSR | Purl's regex is limited purely to non-meta characters. |
| 19:13.59 | DanielAstbury | I'm only somewhat familier with lua's pattern matching |
| 19:14.00 | Fisker | i really want to know what case they're using Ackis |
| 19:14.05 | Fisker | the design looks very solid |
| 19:14.13 | foxlit | It'd be easier to say that purl does a single, pure-text replacement operation. |
| 19:14.14 | Dagmar | Jesus |
| 19:14.23 | Dagmar | _Three_ of those is a ludicrous amount of power |
| 19:14.27 | Ackis | yeah I was intrigued by how the cards sat vertically Fisker |
| 19:14.41 | Arrowmaster | purl supports the /g option |
| 19:16.29 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: Oh, does it? |
| 19:16.32 | DWSR | Dagmar: Yeah, I know. |
| 19:16.40 | DWSR | Dagmar: OH |
| 19:16.41 | DWSR | btw. |
| 19:16.46 | DWSR | Do you know where I can get acapelas? |
| 19:16.51 | Fisker | i think i'm actually going to get the GTX480 :( |
| 19:17.21 | Dagmar | dwsr: Two c's. As to where to get them, usually that's a function of sorting through bins and hitting up your dealer |
| 19:17.35 | Ackis | why so :( Fisker? |
| 19:17.42 | Dagmar | Sometimes you can do the L-R trick, sometimes |
| 19:18.09 | DWSR | L-R trick? |
| 19:18.23 | Fisker | because i shouldn't Ackis |
| 19:18.27 | DWSR | You mean taking the L and inverting it and dropping it on the r? |
| 19:18.28 | DWSR | R* |
| 19:18.31 | Dagmar | Whoops. It *is* just one c. |
| 19:18.35 | DWSR | ;) |
| 19:18.50 | Ackis | Fisker: buy 3 of them, and hten I can give your old card(s) a nice home |
| 19:19.03 | Dagmar | Yeah, depending on how the recording was put together, if the vocals are dead center and all the instruments are to one channel or the other you can combine the two channels to get rid of some of the soudns |
| 19:19.49 | Dagmar | Generally it's easier to just haunt an artists page and see if they do a CD5 or something with an acapella mix |
| 19:19.55 | DWSR | They do. |
| 19:20.04 | DWSR | It's an older track and yeah. |
| 19:20.07 | DWSR | I'm cheap. |
| 19:20.48 | DWSR | btw, I dropped the rap out of the first part of my mix, replaced it with a different acapela. Still sounds a little wonky though, don't have the relative volumes right yet. |
| 19:22.43 | Lunessa | wtb: teleportation of delicious noms to my desk. Shirik - make it so. |
| 19:22.56 | Shirik | Lunessa you live in CA right? |
| 19:23.30 | Lunessa | Shirik: No, I live in TX. I grew up (mostly) in CA |
| 19:23.35 | Shirik | oh right TX |
| 19:23.52 | Shirik | someone just called me from CA. I didn't pick up but I figured it might be you asking for delicious noms |
| 19:24.46 | DWSR | lol |
| 19:24.54 | Lunessa | I want them teleported. I want delicious noms to appear, on my desk, artfully plated and ready to eat. |
| 19:25.20 | DWSR | blinks to Lunessa's desk, artfully plated and ready to eat. |
| 19:25.46 | Lunessa | DWSR: ... You're not a delicious nom. At least, not to my sexual orientation. |
| 19:26.42 | DWSR | How do you know? |
| 19:26.42 | Ackis | why did they got from like a GTX 285/295 to a GTX 480? Was there a 300 series? |
| 19:26.43 | DWSR | :o |
| 19:27.37 | Shirik | pop quiz |
| 19:27.45 | Shirik | sufficient for identifying IRC messages or not? |
| 19:27.46 | Shirik | "^:([^!]+![^@]+@[^\\s]+)\\s+PRIVMSG (.+)$" |
| 19:27.48 | Lunessa | DWSR: Point. :0 On the internet no one knows you're a <fill in the blank> |
| 19:27.53 | Fisker | old Ackis |
| 19:27.54 | Shirik | (note the backslashes are doubled |
| 19:28.09 | Fisker | 300 series are oem rebrands |
| 19:29.12 | Shirik | Fisker |
| 19:29.24 | Shirik | hi :3 |
| 19:30.05 | DWSR | Shirik: What's the syntax for a privmsg? |
| 19:30.10 | DWSR | PRIVMSG :target TEXT? |
| 19:30.20 | DWSR | sorry. |
| 19:30.25 | Shirik | oh I forgot the target |
| 19:30.27 | DWSR | nick!user@host PRIVMSG :target TEXT? |
| 19:30.27 | Shirik | DWSR wins |
| 19:30.29 | DWSR | :) |
| 19:30.36 | Shirik | and the : comes before text |
| 19:30.37 | Shirik | not target |
| 19:30.44 | DWSR | Yeah, my IRC RFC is rusty. |
| 19:30.47 | DWSR | Used to know them all. |
| 19:30.55 | zenzelezz | http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2010/03/29/9986468.aspx - interesting (and generally true) view of Wikipedia |
| 19:31.03 | Shirik | "^:([^!]+![^@]+@[^\\s]+)\\s+PRIVMSG\\s+([^\\s]+)\\s+:(.+)$" |
| 19:31.53 | Shirik | zenzelezz: WP's notability guidelines are a hot topic right now, actually |
| 19:32.03 | DWSR | Shirik, what is the : at the beginning of the line for? |
| 19:32.09 | Thrae | I think it's finally time for me to make an alt. |
| 19:32.11 | Shirik | in fact we're about to delete tons of pages |
| 19:32.24 | Shirik | most of those pages are going to be non-notable people |
| 19:32.26 | Thrae | Maybe a Shadow Priest, before they're nerfed. |
| 19:32.47 | Shirik | DWSR: It's just part of the protocol, basically everything following a colon may have spaces in it |
| 19:32.59 | Shirik | so it's like "This is the last argument, and it's however long the line is" |
| 19:33.28 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: shouldnt those [^!] also exclude whitespace? |
| 19:33.45 | Shirik | I guess I could |
| 19:33.49 | Shirik | I didn't think it would matter really |
| 19:33.59 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: Well, if you're working under the assumption that the IRC server is sending well formed messages, it doesn't matter. |
| 19:34.11 | DWSR | Shirik: No, but why is there a colon at THE BEGINNING of the line? |
| 19:34.12 | Arrowmaster | he is using greedy matches though |
| 19:34.18 | Shirik | oh that one |
| 19:34.25 | Shirik | I think it means "not from the server" |
| 19:34.30 | DWSR | "I think" |
| 19:34.32 | Lunessa | Thrae: *chuckle* Many shadow Priests I know claim they've already been nerfed. |
| 19:34.36 | Shirik | i.e., it was initiated by a client |
| 19:34.53 | DWSR | "I think" |
| 19:35.26 | Shirik | The presence of a prefix is indicated with a single leading ASCII colon character (':', 0x3b), which must be the first character of the message itself. There must be no gap (whitespace) between the colon and the prefix. The prefix is used by servers to indicate the true origin of the message. |
| 19:35.31 | DWSR | also, why did you [^\\s]? |
| 19:35.49 | DWSR | Shirik: This from the Wiki article on IRC? |
| 19:35.52 | DWSR | ~wiki IRC |
| 19:35.55 | Shirik | no it's from RFC 1459 |
| 19:36.11 | Shirik | RFC 1459 2.3 |
| 19:37.33 | Shirik | and why [^\\s]+? |
| 19:37.44 | Shirik | why not? |
| 19:37.51 | DWSR | Shirik: :nick!user@host PRIVMSG Shirik :this is a test <-- This is a well-formed message, correct? |
| 19:38.04 | Shirik | sure |
| 19:38.08 | DWSR | Not matching. |
| 19:38.17 | Shirik | did you remember to strip the double backslashes? |
| 19:38.33 | DWSR | Why would you do that in the first place? |
| 19:38.36 | DWSR | And also, no. Thank you |
| 19:39.01 | DWSR | However, it still doesn't match when I strip the escaping. |
| 19:39.12 | Shirik | hm matches for me |
| 19:39.13 | DWSR | nvm, forgot the : at the beginning of the line. |
| 19:39.14 | DWSR | Yeah. |
| 19:39.34 | Ackis | tekkub: http://consumerist.com/assets_c/2010/03/bacon_cupcake-thumb-240x148-38664.jpg |
| 19:39.41 | DWSR | You can specify the target as nick!user@host too, btw. |
| 19:39.59 | Shirik | sure but that would still match |
| 19:40.19 | DWSR | No it doesn't. |
| 19:40.27 | DWSR | wait, no, I broke it again |
| 19:40.30 | DWSR | God damnit. |
| 19:40.32 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 19:40.47 | zenzelezz | sounds like something I'd do DWSR |
| 19:40.55 | Lunessa | Ackis: umm, no. i like bacon, maybe more than the next man, but NO. |
| 19:41.10 | Ackis | lol |
| 19:41.20 | DWSR | Shirik: Yeah, it matches, but it matches anything that I put for target. |
| 19:41.24 | DWSR | You should be more specific. |
| 19:41.42 | Shirik | well I assume well-formed messages |
| 19:41.47 | DWSR | don't. |
| 19:41.53 | Shirik | ? |
| 19:42.07 | DWSR | Well, is this specifically for use on Freenode? |
| 19:42.13 | Shirik | at least for now, yes |
| 19:42.24 | DWSR | If you're ever going to use this anywhere else, don't. |
| 19:42.29 | Shirik | the user won't even know it's connecting to IRC unless they bother to look up the internal details |
| 19:42.33 | DWSR | s/don't./don't assume well-formed messages/ |
| 19:42.53 | Shirik | It's not an IRC program, it just uses IRC |
| 19:43.05 | zenzelezz | <Shirik> the user won't even know it's connecting to IRC unless they bother to look up the internal details <-- omg shiriks writing a botnet |
| 19:43.06 | DWSR | As I said, don't assume well-formed messages. |
| 19:43.17 | Lunessa | Well formed messages should not be assumed. |
| 19:43.17 | DWSR | The IRCd might mangle them in transit. |
| 19:43.21 | Shirik | zenzelezz: Actually, yes |
| 19:43.27 | Shirik | but we call it the "collaboration cloud" |
| 19:43.30 | DWSR | rofl |
| 19:43.36 | DWSR | SKYNET'S BECOME SELF-AWARE! |
| 19:43.48 | Shirik | It's a network of bots and users. |
| 19:43.52 | Lunessa | Well, I'm moving to Montanna then. |
| 19:43.56 | zenzelezz | we've already seen what Shirik's bots do now; I don't even want to think of when they rebel against him |
| 19:43.59 | Shirik | ~wiki User:Shirik/CollabRC |
| 19:44.01 | DWSR | hehe |
| 19:44.25 | foxlit | No no no |
| 19:44.27 | foxlit | You're doing it wrong |
| 19:44.30 | Shirik | though that's a bit out of date |
| 19:44.34 | Shirik | I should update it |
| 19:45.01 | DWSR | Shirik's programming a Skynet prototype. |
| 19:45.04 | DWSR | First Wikipedia, then the world. |
| 19:45.08 | zenzelezz | "designed to take collaboration from fighters and to the next level" <-- see, it even says he's plotting a revolution |
| 19:45.26 | foxlit | CollabRC is the prototype name for a cross-platform tool for monitoring recent changes, currently in development by Shirik, who inserts too many clauses between some commas, designed to take collaboration from vandalism fighters and recent change patrollers to the next level, which is undoubtably awesome. |
| 19:45.46 | zenzelezz | Shirik: also... why choose a name that turns into "CRC"? |
| 19:46.23 | Lunessa | Because HashRC sounds bad? |
| 19:46.53 | zenzelezz | better than CRC |
| 19:47.30 | DWSR | Shirik: You shouldn't assume that the messages are well formed. |
| 19:47.34 | DWSR | Honestly. |
| 19:48.29 | DWSR | Blindly accepting anything as a msgtarget is a pretty good way to get your bot broken. |
| 19:48.31 | zenzelezz | everyone, to the tune of "The wall": We don't need no validation |
| 19:48.42 | DWSR | rofl |
| 19:48.53 | foxlit | We don't need no junk asserts? |
| 19:49.01 | DWSR | s/asserts/assertions/ |
| 19:49.13 | foxlit | It's a syllables thing, sorry |
| 19:49.29 | DWSR | It makes sense with the extra syllables. |
| 19:49.46 | DWSR | It's more true to the original lyrics, imo. |
| 19:50.23 | foxlit | Depends on how you read things |
| 19:50.45 | foxlit | "thought control" seems to be 3 syllables to me. |
| 19:51.26 | DWSR | We don't need no education |
| 19:51.33 | DWSR | meh. |
| 19:51.49 | foxlit | Wrong line, then :) |
| 19:53.07 | Dagmar | "junk assertions" |
| 19:53.08 | foxlit | ... No bounds checking in the arrays; coders, leave those bytes alone. |
| 19:53.22 | foxlit | All in all, it's pretty meh. |
| 19:53.22 | zenzelezz | =D |
| 19:53.41 | zenzelezz | Hey, coders, leave those checks alone |
| 19:54.23 | Cide | lol |
| 19:54.23 | Adys | Shadowed: ping |
| 19:54.52 | Adys | ~seen shadowed |
| 19:54.54 | purl | shadowed is currently on #wowuidev (19h 39m 42s) #wowace (19h 39m 42s). Has said a total of 4 messages. Is idling for 19h 30m 32s, last said: 'Some say problem, other say feature'. |
| 19:54.59 | Adys | !@*& |
| 19:56.51 | Shirik | zenzelezz: why not |
| 19:57.13 | Shirik | foxlit: commas are your friend |
| 19:57.18 | Shirik | DWSR: This is not the bot |
| 19:57.41 | Shirik | And I'm not accepting anything as a target, I'm merely using that as the first past |
| 19:57.42 | Shirik | pass* |
| 19:57.48 | foxlit | Shirik: commas are your friend, who, coincidentally, likes to overstay his welcome, if you catch my drift, or something resembling the said drift. |
| 19:57.48 | Shirik | the next step is to make sure it's to the right place |
| 19:58.02 | Shirik | see, I can read that just fine |
| 19:58.25 | Shirik | now what if you said "commas are your friend who coincidentally like to overstay their welcome if you catch my drift or something resembling the said drift" |
| 19:59.02 | Adys | lua> return not 0 |
| 19:59.02 | lua_bot | Adys: false |
| 19:59.04 | foxlit | You should pretend we're on simple.wikipedia.org. Language is nice there. It makes no attempts to overflow your parsing buffer. |
| 19:59.12 | Adys | lua> return not nil |
| 19:59.12 | lua_bot | Adys: true |
| 19:59.16 | Adys | sighs |
| 19:59.34 | Adys | !api getnumparty |
| 19:59.34 | lua_bot | GetNumPartyMembers: Returns the number of additional members in the player's party (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetNumPackages">GetNumPackages</a></td><td><em>This function is deprecated and should no longer be used</em><ul class="api_badge"><li class="api_badge"><a href="/docs/api_flags#deprecated">deprecated</a></li></ul></td></tr><tr><td><a href="/docs/api/GetNumPartyMembers) |
| 19:59.43 | Adys | eh, fail |
| 19:59.46 | Adys | jnwhiteh: ^ |
| 19:59.52 | DanielAstbury | 0 isn't boolean in Lua, afaik |
| 19:59.55 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 20:00.01 | DWSR | IT's not. |
| 20:00.02 | DWSR | 0 is true |
| 20:00.09 | foxlit | lua> 0 == true |
| 20:00.10 | Adys | yeha i figured |
| 20:00.17 | foxlit | foxlit: false |
| 20:00.17 | lua_bot | foxlit: false |
| 20:00.18 | DanielAstbury | lua> return not false |
| 20:00.24 | DWSR | in lua, nil and false are false, everything else is true |
| 20:00.27 | DanielAstbury | fail |
| 20:00.40 | lua_bot | DanielAstbury: true |
| 20:00.41 | DanielAstbury | lol |
| 20:00.46 | Adys | i miss python's booleans every day |
| 20:00.47 | DWSR | lua> return somethign |
| 20:00.48 | lua_bot | DWSR: nil |
| 20:00.53 | DWSR | heh |
| 20:01.06 | DWSR | Not exactly what I asked for, but hey. |
| 20:01.55 | DanielAstbury | I think that explicitly using false makes code look a little nicer. |
| 20:02.05 | DWSR | lua> function a return "this" end; a(); |
| 20:02.06 | lua_bot | DWSR: luabot:1: '(' expected near 'return' |
| 20:02.10 | DanielAstbury | or just the not operator etc |
| 20:02.17 | DWSR | lua> function a return("this") end; a(); |
| 20:02.18 | lua_bot | DWSR: luabot:1: '(' expected near 'return' |
| 20:02.25 | DWSR | Fail? |
| 20:02.31 | DWSR | Oh wait, it's a(), isn't it. |
| 20:02.39 | *** join/#wowuidev Smirk (~shconno@99.25.84.137) |
| 20:02.54 | Smirk | Howdy |
| 20:03.53 | Lunessa | We don't need not validation / we don't need no flow control / No bitwise matching in the algorithm / Hey compiler, leave my bits alone! |
| 20:03.53 | DWSR | ~Lunessa++ |
| 20:03.53 | DWSR | s/not/no/; |
| 20:03.53 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 20:03.53 | Lunessa | Yeah. |
| 20:03.53 | Fisker | nicoli_s |
| 20:04.04 | foxlit | Borrow a comma from Shirik :) |
| 20:04.11 | DWSR | rofl |
| 20:04.13 | Matsy | What |
| 20:04.19 | Matsy | Google DNS is down? :+ |
| 20:04.26 | alestane | lua> return not 0 == not true |
| 20:04.27 | lua_bot | alestane: true |
| 20:04.28 | Lunessa | I was typing while listening to a user complain that he didn't have admin rights to his machine. |
| 20:04.44 | foxlit | Quick, he's onto you. |
| 20:04.49 | foxlit | Nod in agreement in 3, 2,... |
| 20:04.50 | Fisker | no Matsy! |
| 20:04.56 | DWSR | Lunessa, you work in support? |
| 20:05.01 | Matsy | Hm, I can't access 8.8.8.8 anymore |
| 20:05.07 | Lunessa | Sadly, yes. |
| 20:05.11 | Shirik | haven't you heard Lunessa's complaints for the last year? |
| 20:05.31 | foxlit | Works for me. |
| 20:05.42 | Lunessa | I'm help desk and tech docs for a university. It's a long step down from being a build engineer. |
| 20:05.45 | Matsy | hm, lets try this then |
| 20:06.45 | jnwhiteh | Adys: yes, I know, I dont know when I'll get a chance to fix it yet. |
| 20:06.53 | jnwhiteh | surgery coming up very soon |
| 20:06.58 | DWSR | what for? |
| 20:07.07 | jnwhiteh | my disease |
| 20:07.15 | DWSR | AIDS? |
| 20:07.21 | DWSR | :P |
| 20:07.32 | DWSR | Sorry, couldn't help it |
| 20:07.42 | DanielAstbury | if he had aids, shouldn't you get checked DWSR? |
| 20:07.53 | DWSR | nah, I use protection |
| 20:08.09 | DanielAstbury | Ah, good. |
| 20:08.11 | foxlit | Clear evidence as to the fact that Fisker is contagious. |
| 20:08.13 | Lunessa | jnwhiteh: I didn't realize there were surgical procedures for you ailment. Are they symptom relief, or a surgical cure? |
| 20:08.19 | Adys | jnwhiteh: What disease, out of curiousity? |
| 20:08.38 | Adys | and DWSR I doubt aids is getting treated by surgery |
| 20:09.19 | Fisker | DWSR is the worst kind of troll :( |
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| 20:13.16 | Fisker | http://tech.slashdot.org/story/10/03/29/146218/Raleigh-Councilman-Offers-Child-Naming-Rights-To-Google <-WHAT THE FUCK |
| 20:13.21 | Fisker | google doesn't even need to name it |
| 20:13.26 | Fisker | just needs to be Name Jr. |
| 20:14.26 | Adys | Larry Gaylord |
| 20:14.54 | Adys | Poor guy will never forget high school |
| 20:16.19 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2010/03/but_can_you_huff_it_edible_gol.php |
| 20:16.27 | Lunessa | Fisker: That sounds like a desperate man offering insane things for a high-speed porn-pipe into Raleigh. |
| 20:16.48 | Fisker | maybe a gayporn-pipe |
| 20:16.56 | Shirik | Fisker: lol |
| 20:17.56 | DWSR | Bonner Gaylord. |
| 20:17.57 | DWSR | Wow. |
| 20:18.00 | DWSR | What shit luck. |
| 20:21.07 | KarlKFI|work | either that or he sold those name rights already |
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| 20:28.59 | DWSR | mikma: The royal penis is clean! |
| 20:29.23 | Fisker | i wouldn't keep that name |
| 20:29.29 | Fisker | well maybe unless i could use it for trolling |
| 20:29.50 | Fisker | just tell the police they're abusing me by calling me a "gaylord" |
| 20:29.53 | Fisker | that would be nice |
| 20:31.30 | Thunder_Child | "Found in the phonebook: Gaylord, Junior Boner." ouch |
| 20:32.43 | Thrae | Hmm, weekly raid lockouts expire on Tuesday no matter when they're started, right? |
| 20:33.40 | Fisker | yes |
| 20:34.02 | Fisker | there are some instances that run on another schedule though |
| 20:41.08 | olafski | IIT does not stack with windfury totem right? |
| 20:43.22 | alestane | Not group-wide, no. |
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| 20:56.27 | DWSR | olafski: No. |
| 20:56.35 | DWSR | olafski: The personal haste portion of the talent, however, does. |
| 20:56.42 | DWSR | So you always have 25% melee haste. |
| 21:00.58 | amro | the personal portion is another talent even if it's the same spell |
| 21:01.47 | DWSR | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=55610 <-- Same talent, akshully. |
| 21:02.18 | DWSR | WFT used to overwrite IIT and only give you 20% melee haste, but now it will correctly stack with the 5% personal haste. |
| 21:03.28 | amro | I meant different from IT |
| 21:03.40 | amro | which doesn't stack either |
| 21:04.40 | alestane | "Our theory regarding PAX is that it is something that happens when we get enough of you together, quite on its own, and it is our task to construct an ecosystem around you that does not impinge on that culture's inherent virtues. |
| 21:04.40 | alestane | "When they had us down at GDC for that Ambassador Award thing, what I told them (when I was thrust before a microphone in abject terror) was that the basis for our work is the idea that the experiences that games create form the basis of a coherent culture - that the bank of shared experiences, simulated but no less real, coalesce into a collective memory. " |
| 21:05.33 | alestane | "I say things like this for two reasons. One, it's vitally important to me that people think I'm smart. But more importantly - well, maybe not more importantly, as important perhaps - that is the world I want to live in. Even if we have to make that world with our bare Goddamned hands for three days, to reclaim it from the Earth, it will be so." |
| 21:05.59 | alestane | </jholkins> |
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| 21:06.52 | amro | I seriously think he sleeps with a thesaurus |
| 21:07.07 | DWSR | I'll sleep with your thesaurus in a second. |
| 21:07.10 | DWSR | wait.. |
| 21:07.27 | Smirk | thesaurus-rex? |
| 21:07.27 | amro | if you do that, keep it. I'll buy a new one |
| 21:08.32 | alestane | I don't see any particularly noteworthy use of synonyms there...but then, I'm roughly as literate in ten-dollar words. |
| 21:08.46 | Smirk | WOO! I made a frame pop up in WoW with a button on it! :D |
| 21:08.53 | alestane | A good thing. |
| 21:10.21 | amro | alestane: it's not about what you pasted in particular, but his writing in general |
| 21:10.34 | amro | he's a master wordsmith, and they don't get any better |
| 21:11.13 | alestane | His vocabulary is extensive, and it derives from the same basic assertion that has built mine: |
| 21:11.13 | alestane | We wouldn't have all these different words for things if there weren't some value in them. |
| 21:12.11 | Smirk | Words is good. |
| 21:12.19 | alestane | And indeed, by understanding the subtle distinctions between two seemingly interchangeable words, and the things to which they refer, we more distinguish more and more elements to the actual world. |
| 21:12.32 | DWSR | we more distinguish more and more? |
| 21:12.41 | alestane | s/we more /we / |
| 21:14.14 | DWSR | Dagmar |
| 21:14.20 | DWSR | 2h enough or should I for 4 or 6? |
| 21:16.58 | Fisker | what changed in the auction house API since auction addons had to be updated for post times? |
| 21:17.39 | DWSR | Posting an auction got a redo. |
| 21:17.57 | Fisker | yeah i know |
| 21:18.21 | Fisker | but i wonder why it got auction addons bugging up so they post at wrong auction postages |
| 21:18.30 | Fisker | i.e. 24 hours instead of 12/48 |
| 21:19.19 | Adys | You have just been sent a personal message by ******* on MMO-Champion - World of Warcraft Guides and Raid Strategies. |
| 21:19.19 | Adys | The message they sent you was: |
| 21:19.19 | Adys | I know that this could be offending to some people because of the news story behind the saying but it's more of a meaning of I don't get things people say very often. |
| 21:19.38 | Adys | someone help me out here |
| 21:19.42 | Adys | I've nfc what that means. |
| 21:20.04 | DWSR | No idea. |
| 21:20.28 | alestane | Possibly you've just gotten the internet equivalent of a wrong number. |
| 21:20.40 | Fisker | who's ******* |
| 21:20.45 | Adys | you |
| 21:21.09 | Fisker | shit |
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| 21:26.19 | Adys | Shadowed |
| 21:26.48 | olafski | dwsr: cheers, I was actually asking from the shaman perspective this time tho =) |
| 21:26.56 | Fisker | Shadowed indeed |
| 21:26.59 | olafski | training my gf to tank with her DK :P |
| 21:28.10 | Adys | lua> return [] |
| 21:28.11 | lua_bot | Adys: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '[' |
| 21:28.14 | Adys | lua> return [""] |
| 21:28.15 | lua_bot | Adys: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '[' |
| 21:28.31 | Adys | lua> return {[""]=""} |
| 21:28.32 | lua_bot | Adys: table: 0x9b84000 |
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| 21:28.38 | Adys | lua> return {[[[""]]]=""} |
| 21:28.40 | lua_bot | Adys: luabot:1: '}' expected near ']' |
| 21:28.43 | Adys | shrugs |
| 21:35.21 | alestane | quotes: "Customer: 'So where in this place is the actual iceberg that sunk the Titanic?â' |
| 21:36.42 | alestane | Lord, this one wasn't even that far away: http://notalwaysright.com/unsolved-mystery-shopper/4832 |
| 21:37.03 | amro | Adys: stop pythoning lua |
| 21:37.51 | Adys | I've mostly been pythoning Shirik |
| 21:38.22 | amro | I think Shirik made it quite clear he doesn't like your python |
| 21:38.27 | amro | unless he's in denial |
| 21:40.26 | kd3 | ...sonofa |
| 21:40.34 | kd3 | I get an Eye of Shadow but not Draconic for Dummies |
| 21:40.35 | kd3 | sighs |
| 21:40.56 | Adys | kd3: you fail for not doing this earlier :P |
| 21:41.06 | Adys | particularly this one |
| 21:41.08 | kd3 | I'm bored and don't want to grind pirates |
| 21:41.09 | Adys | i had to solo it |
| 21:41.18 | Adys | at level 60 that is |
| 21:41.35 | Adys | taking 5 mins for every damn mob |
| 21:49.09 | DWSR | WTB 40m raiding |
| 21:49.15 | DWSR | As a "super heroic" mode. |
| 21:50.06 | recluse | Is there a way to check if a UIObject has a particular method? Like foo:HasMethod("SetText") |
| 21:50.47 | alestane | Generally, it should be enough to check "if foo.SetText then" |
| 21:50.53 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 21:51.10 | recluse | =/ tried that, but didn't work for me |
| 21:51.18 | alestane | Then you're doing it wrong. |
| 21:51.34 | recluse | if not _G[object].SetScale then |
| 21:52.19 | alestane | You could also check "if getmetatable(frame).__index.SetScale then" but this offers few advantages. |
| 21:52.37 | alestane | And what do you mean when you say "doesn't work?" |
| 21:52.42 | recluse | well |
| 21:54.10 | recluse | i do the check on _G[object].SetScale. if it does not have it, then i return. if it does have it, then i call _G[object]:SetScale(value) - and I get an error method 'SetScale' a nil value lol |
| 21:54.24 | amro | why are you doin _G[object]? |
| 21:54.33 | recluse | object is a string |
| 21:54.35 | amro | ah |
| 21:54.58 | alestane | Double-check your caps, is what I'd recommend first. |
| 21:56.03 | alestane | I really can't imagine any situation in which "if _G[name].SetScale then _G[name]:SetScale(...) end" should ever throw a nil method error. |
| 21:56.46 | recluse | hehe, that's what i thought as well, which is why i was asking if there were some other way to do it that maybe i hadn't thought about |
| 21:58.57 | kd3 | yes! |
| 21:58.58 | kd3 | finally |
| 21:59.04 | kd3 | off to the bank |
| 21:59.13 | alestane | What finally? |
| 21:59.37 | kd3 | draconic for dummies chapter 2 |
| 21:59.49 | kd3 | now I just need the one from winterspring and doctor weavil |
| 22:00.07 | alestane | ...There's a story there, I'm sure. |
| 22:00.38 | ckknight | alestane: I can make it happen |
| 22:01.00 | alestane | The nil method error? |
| 22:01.43 | ckknight | lua> local x = setmetatable({good=true}, {__index = function(self, key) if key == "SetScale" then if self.good then self.good = nil return function() end else return nil end end}); if x.SetScale then x:SetScale() end |
| 22:01.43 | lua_bot | ckknight: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near '}' |
| 22:01.47 | ckknight | hang on |
| 22:02.25 | ckknight | lua> local x = setmetatable({good=true}, {__index = function(self, key) if key == "SetScale" then if self.good then self.good = nil return function() end else return nil end end end}); if x.SetScale then x:SetScale() end |
| 22:02.25 | lua_bot | ckknight: luabot:1: attempt to call method 'SetScale' (a nil value) |
| 22:02.28 | ckknight | boom! |
| 22:02.52 | alestane | Well, yes, but that's in a situation that you created expressly for the purpose of making me eat my words. |
| 22:03.07 | ckknight | and now, I bid you adieu |
| 22:05.48 | Arrowmaster | lua> local x = setmetatable({good=true}, {__index = function(self, key) if key == "SetScale" then if self.good then self.good = nil return function() end else return nil end end end}); local y = x.SetScale; if y then y() end |
| 22:05.49 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: No output |
| 22:06.31 | alestane | Although to be a method proxy, that should properly be "if y then y(x) end". |
| 22:06.56 | Arrowmaster | true |
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| 22:11.22 | DWSR | Sweet. |
| 22:11.25 | DWSR | Just got Alterac Blitz! |
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| 22:12.33 | Aelobin | can anyone tell me what the music is at the beginning of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Veo_es0Qa0Q ? |
| 22:12.36 | Aelobin | it's driving me crazy |
| 22:13.15 | Gagorian | I can |
| 22:13.21 | Gagorian | Clint Mansell - Lux Aeterna |
| 22:13.23 | Gagorian | or close to that |
| 22:13.45 | Gagorian | Sounds like a possible remake |
| 22:13.52 | alestane | It's the same piece used in the Atonement video that won Anime Boston a few years ago. |
| 22:14.03 | alestane | Sometimes refered to as "Requiem for a Tower." |
| 22:14.05 | Gelfling | its lux aeterna |
| 22:14.15 | Gelfling | gagorian is right |
| 22:14.56 | Gelfling | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKLpJtvzlEI |
| 22:15.12 | ScytheBlade1 | http://i.imgur.com/EZ0nP.gif |
| 22:15.35 | alestane | That's probably one of the most ingenious uses of Thunderstorm I've ever seen. |
| 22:16.30 | ScytheBlade1 | "Whoops, wrong door." |
| 22:17.19 | Arrowmaster | hmm my google reader seems broken |
| 22:17.30 | alestane | "A version of the track was re-orchestrated with a choir and full orchestra for The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers trailer.[1] The piece, renamed "Requiem for a Tower", was made for the trailer and was featured in Return of the King film trilogy. It was arranged by Simone Benyacar, Daniel Nielsen, and Veigar Margeirsson." |
| 22:17.41 | alestane | Not familiar enough with the two to tell you which it is. |
| 22:18.17 | Gnarfoz | huh |
| 22:18.40 | Gnarfoz | that piece does not make an appearance in the films |
| 22:20.02 | alestane | Well, I will certainly never attempt to claim that Wikipedia must always be right. |
| 22:20.15 | Gagorian | I don't remember it in the film either, the trailer sure |
| 22:21.00 | Fisker | Â |
| 22:21.03 | Fisker | Gagorian |
| 22:21.04 | Fisker | you! |
| 22:21.29 | alestane | The reference to the "Return of the King film trilogy" indicates that someone may have been slightly confused. |
| 22:21.31 | Gagorian | Oh no, it's Fisker |
| 22:21.44 | Gnarfoz | indeed, alestane |
| 22:22.38 | Fisker | how i love extremities |
| 22:22.50 | Fisker | "Yeh "WHEN" a GM comes around heh. So basicly i could be muted forever due to the lack of GM's" |
| 22:22.59 | Fisker | Me: Nope, i'm pretty sure the universe will collapse into itself at some point. |
| 22:22.59 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 22:23.18 | alestane | I'd guess that you mean "extremes", but with you it's best not to assume anything. |
| 22:23.20 | Fisker | though of course you could say that the concept of time ceases to exist at that moment |
| 22:23.23 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 22:23.36 | Arrowmaster | well im off to class, aka hell because im betting this will be in a classroom where i have to sit in a wooden desk for a few hours instead of at a computer i can distract/entertain myself with |
| 22:23.46 | Fisker | not nessecarily alestane |
| 22:23.52 | Gagorian | alestane: I think he meant excrement |
| 22:24.00 | kd3 | whee; time to find someone to help me kill weavil |
| 22:24.23 | alestane | You could always pay attention to the class, Arrowmaster. |
| 22:24.34 | Arrowmaster | its a humanities elective |
| 22:25.04 | alestane | Which means it's probably not a subject you were familiar with before. Go broaden your horizons! |
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| 22:25.41 | Gnarfoz | Arrowmaster: laptops |
| 22:25.53 | Arrowmaster | dont have one |
| 22:25.59 | Arrowmaster | well not a recent one |
| 22:26.16 | Arrowmaster | cya |
| 22:26.26 | Fisker | Gnarfoz |
| 22:26.30 | Fisker | i'm buying a GTX 480 |
| 22:26.59 | Gnarfoz | buy a 5850 instead and send me the remaining money! |
| 22:27.31 | Fisker | no |
| 22:27.44 | Fisker | But you know what Gnarfoz? |
| 22:28.01 | Fisker | I will see you when we cured cancer and all you did was discover penicillin |
| 22:28.02 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 22:28.12 | Fisker | (oh no i didn't) |
| 22:28.23 | Fisker | http://i41.tinypic.com/533b47.png |
| 22:28.24 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 22:28.28 | Gnarfoz | we're not blind, so we just walk up to the medicine cabinet and fetch some penicillin |
| 22:28.41 | Gnarfoz | and then we inject you with it, even though we know you're allergic :o |
| 22:29.57 | Gagorian | Fisker: At least you can turn off your heaters after that |
| 22:30.22 | Fisker | what heaters? |
| 22:30.45 | Gagorian | You still live in the basement? |
| 22:31.01 | Fisker | naw |
| 22:31.50 | Gagorian | Without joking, there's no need for any additional heating in the room if you got a GTX 480 :P |
| 22:34.13 | Fisker | one should make a pc out of the geforce! |
| 22:34.17 | Smirk | I got a 9800GT that is like an oven >_> |
| 22:35.21 | Smirk | Are graphics cards supposed to burn you if you touch them? |
| 22:36.16 | Gagorian | Ask Fisker |
| 22:36.51 | Shadowed | Are you sure it's burning you, perhaps you should touch it a few more times to verify! |
| 22:37.10 | Smirk | The blister on my finger says yes :( |
| 22:37.21 | Shadowed | fair enough |
| 22:40.36 | Smirk | But really, that seems too hot right? |
| 22:43.17 | DWSR | No |
| 22:43.28 | DWSR | You'd be amazed at how easily your skin burns. |
| 22:44.09 | DWSR | olafski |
| 22:44.15 | DWSR | Do you still have that link to that song that I was looking for? |
| 22:44.53 | DWSR | nevermind, think I got it. |
| 22:44.57 | DWSR | gogo GDS |
| 22:47.24 | DWSR | Anyone here know of an easy way to extract audio from a YT vid? |
| 22:47.28 | foxlit | Is there a belt with three sockets? |
| 22:47.37 | foxlit | DWSR: get the video, ffmpeg the audio |
| 22:47.47 | DWSR | foxlit: 3 sockets naturally? Yes. |
| 22:47.55 | airtonix | DWSR, Yellow Tungsten Video ? |
| 22:48.06 | DWSR | youtube video. |
| 22:48.06 | foxlit | Then the equipment manager will have a problem. |
| 22:48.15 | airtonix | DWSR, Your Terrier Video ? |
| 22:48.20 | DWSR | fuck you |
| 22:48.30 | airtonix | acronyms...onnomnomnom |
| 22:48.54 | foxlit | DWSR: something like ffmpeg -i video.mp4 out.mp3 |
| 22:49.59 | airtonix | chuckles |
| 23:01.30 | Fisker | foxlit |
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| 23:07.54 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: actually, there isn't one: http://www.wowhead.com/?items=4&filter=qu=4;sl=6;cr=80:100;crs=5:1;crv=0:2 |
| 23:08.08 | Fisker | hey Gnarfoz |
| 23:08.09 | Fisker | you |
| 23:08.16 | Gnarfoz | is your heater there, yet? |
| 23:09.44 | Fisker | no |
| 23:10.34 | Gnarfoz | your theater, then, maybe? |
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| 23:13.28 | Fisker | slaps Gnarfoz around a bit with a large trout |
| 23:20.06 | cog|work | Nice guys finish last. Bad guys don't care if she finishes at all. |
| 23:20.39 | Fisker | bad guys, she? |
| 23:20.44 | Fisker | btw cog|work |
| 23:20.46 | Fisker | can i love you? |
| 23:21.07 | cog|work | from afar, sure... |
| 23:21.32 | Fisker | don't put a restraining order on me bro |
| 23:22.59 | cog|work | what you don't like restraints? |
| 23:28.15 | Fisker | only if they sexually arouse me? |
| 23:34.13 | airtonix | cog|away, do i sense pillow talk? |
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| 23:39.10 | Shirik | o.o |
| 23:39.21 | Shirik | krka, remember our discussion yesterday about being able to return void function calls? |
| 23:39.27 | Shirik | I found out the REAL reason C++ allows you to do it |
| 23:39.55 | Shirik | template functions may need to be compiled where the type parameter is void |
| 23:40.10 | Shirik | (according to TC++PL at least) |
| 23:41.16 | Shirik | you can also do `return (void)0;` etc |
| 23:42.04 | Fisker | blows up Shirik |
| 23:42.05 | Fisker | sorry |
| 23:42.08 | Shirik | Cide: Pay attention, this is relevant to your C++ training |
| 23:42.51 | Fisker | no |
| 23:43.34 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 23:43.38 | Fisker | care to join me at my table? |
| 23:43.47 | airtonix | on the plate |
| 23:43.53 | Shirik | sorry I already ate |
| 23:44.01 | airtonix | mmm fattened shirik |
| 23:44.11 | Cide | Shirik: ok! |
| 23:45.02 | Fisker | who said anything about eating |
| 23:45.07 | Cide | wait |
| 23:45.16 | Fisker | i just want to destroy you |
| 23:45.17 | Cide | why does a template need a void type parameter anyway? |
| 23:45.28 | Cide | void pointers? |
| 23:45.49 | Shirik | there's an example in TC++PL, one sec |
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| 23:46.38 | Shirik | ah |
| 23:46.46 | Shirik | standard library's mem_fun_t |
| 23:47.15 | Shirik | what if the function returned void? |
| 23:47.23 | Shirik | then you would have a mem_fun_t<void, T> |
| 23:47.54 | Cide | ah |
| 23:47.55 | airtonix | Fisker, size 23 scalpel ? http://fmb.com.au/index1.html |
| 23:48.14 | airtonix | http://fmb.com.au/contents/en-uk/image_viewer.html?lmd=40220.659028 |
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| 23:49.22 | Cide | wtf @ first link? |
| 23:49.36 | Cide | it has a "Please wait while loading..." marquee?! |
| 23:49.40 | Cide | blast from the past |
| 23:49.44 | Shirik | lol |
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| 23:50.24 | Mikk | betcha it has <blink> around it aswell |
| 23:50.27 | Mikk | but it's not rendering anymore |
| 23:50.56 | Fisker | i'm bored |
| 23:51.14 | Mikk | hmm nope it's actually modern HTML. uses divs and ids and everything. |
| 23:51.17 | Mikk | zomg :) |
| 23:51.18 | airtonix | destroy something |
| 23:51.27 | Mikk | YES! FISKER! I HAVE IT! |
| 23:51.31 | Mikk | DESTROY YOUR DSL MODEM! |
| 23:51.39 | Fisker | sure |
| 23:51.50 | Fisker | what else? |
| 23:51.58 | Mikk | this is when you tell me that you got fiber right |
| 23:52.22 | Fisker | unfortunately not |
| 23:52.33 | Mikk | mmm i _should_ have gotten it this year but the plans got delayed qq |
| 23:52.54 | Fisker | not enough support in this area |
| 23:52.55 | Mikk | blames bush & economy |
| 23:53.11 | airtonix | fiskers tools : http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/92/Various_scalpels.png |
| 23:53.48 | Mikk | oh and icesave |
| 23:54.14 | Mikk | grmbl yuppies wanting cars keeping me from my fiber connection |
| 23:54.18 | Mikk | what's the world coming to |
| 23:54.42 | airtonix | desire |
| 23:55.01 | DWSR | Isn't that a street car? |
| 23:55.49 | Mikk | here fisker install this firewall http://www.ranum.com/security/computer_security/papers/a1-firewall/ |
| 23:58.09 | *** join/#wowuidev Cide (~cide@c213-100-51-33.swipnet.se) |
| 23:58.09 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Cide] by ChanServ |
| 23:58.19 | Cide | okay Shirik |
| 23:58.23 | Cide | I think we have a good thing going here |
| 23:58.28 | Cide | you tell me when I should learn something |
| 23:58.33 | Cide | meanwhile I'll be afk eating snacls |
| 23:58.35 | Cide | snacks |
| 23:58.35 | Cide | brb |
| 23:59.01 | Fisker | i just hope they implement docsis 3.0 here already |
| 23:59.02 | Fisker | :( |
