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| 00:11.18 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/03/19/funny-pictures-a-snow-leopard/ |
| 00:13.44 | Corrodias | is that a maine coon? |
| 00:14.23 | Lunessa | Corrodias: I can't tell from the picture, but it's possible. |
| 00:15.36 | Lunessa | The cat looks big enough for the breed. |
| 00:16.50 | Corrodias | the big, fluffy neck makes me think so |
| 00:17.17 | Lunessa | Could just be a big fat persian, cold as hell. |
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| 00:36.10 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: so, in Two Towers, we can now (pretty) clearly see Arwen at Helm's Deep :D they didn't bother to improve their coverup |
| 00:47.12 | Shadowed | Gnarfoz hrm? |
| 00:48.13 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: in early versions of the script (before New Line took up the films, apparently), Arwen brought Anduril to Aragorn (at Helm's Deep) |
| 00:48.29 | Gnarfoz | (which of course makes no sense at all, but hey, it's an adaption) |
| 00:48.40 | Shadowed | ahh |
| 00:49.07 | Gnarfoz | and while they said that was scrapped early on, part of it was obviously filmed, because you can see her (if you know what to look for) twice |
| 00:49.17 | Shadowed | hah, niced |
| 00:50.17 | Gnarfoz | this is not really new, but (scene rips of) the blu-ray (in stores on 2010-04-06) are making the rounds since yesterday, which of course improves the picture quality a lot |
| 00:50.29 | Gnarfoz | on the DVDs it's not much more than a blur ^^ |
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| 01:33.03 | Thrae | These people asking for gear checks for ICC10 Normal...what are they looking for? I have full T9, one piece of T10, some iLevel 264 PvP gear, etc. |
| 01:35.02 | Wobin | should be decent enough for it |
| 01:35.04 | Shadowed | You need heroic ICC 25 gear sorry |
| 01:36.32 | bleeter | I thought you needed stuff from Uldum and Grim Batol |
| 01:36.56 | Thrae | I only need 8 more Frost for my next T10 piece to get the cool 2-piece bonus, +20% Swipe Damage =/ |
| 01:37.59 | Wobin | what's the 4pc feral bonus for T10? |
| 01:38.08 | Wobin | has little faith in it being useful |
| 01:38.40 | Cide | -5% threat on tiger's fury |
| 01:39.04 | Thrae | Wobin: Enrage no longer reduces your armour, and instead *decreases* damage by 12%. |
| 01:39.24 | Corrodias | incoming or outgoing? |
| 01:39.26 | Thrae | Damage done to you |
| 01:39.27 | Wobin | hm |
| 01:39.33 | Wobin | that's quite nice with the glyph |
| 01:39.37 | Cide | unsuccessful troll is unsuccessful :( |
| 01:39.46 | Wobin | Sorry Cide |
| 01:39.48 | Thrae | So it's like another Barkskin, to replace the T4 4-set bonus, except better, especially with KotJ |
| 01:39.52 | Thrae | Glyph? |
| 01:39.56 | Thrae | Enrage doesn't have a Glyph |
| 01:40.06 | Wobin | The fact that that bonus is ENTIRELY POSSIBLE, made it a failtroll =) |
| 01:40.50 | Thrae | I think Blizzard went in the right direction w/ Feral Tank Bonuses for T9 and T10, its the Feral DPS bonuses which aren't that hot |
| 01:41.13 | Thrae | Rip - 10 Energy (woohoo), Rake can now Crit (still not worth it) |
| 01:41.31 | Thrae | There are some cases where the T10 4-set bonus makes Rake actually worthwhile in a rotation, but its situational |
| 01:41.56 | Wobin | hm, you're right, I wonder where I pulled that idea from |
| 01:42.25 | Wobin | wait, the reduced cooldown on BS is a -good- fourpiece bonus? |
| 01:43.12 | Wobin | it's a terrible 4piece bonus =( |
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| 02:07.56 | Corrodias | what is Rake, again? |
| 02:08.19 | Corrodias | is that the DoT finisher? |
| 02:09.11 | alestane | Of the two, one is the DoT that adds a combo point, the other is the finish that DoTs up. |
| 02:09.27 | Corrodias | the two? |
| 02:09.29 | alestane | I'm leveling a feral, I should know which is which, but I just remember the icons. |
| 02:09.33 | Jerub | rake and rip. |
| 02:09.33 | alestane | Rake and Rip. |
| 02:09.41 | Corrodias | ah, i think rip is the finisher |
| 02:09.47 | Jerub | yeah, i always get them mixed up |
| 02:09.50 | Corrodias | the useful one, don't think i ever used rake |
| 02:10.16 | alestane | One looks like a single claw (that one adds a point), the other one looks like parallel claw marks (the finisher) |
| 02:10.44 | Jerub | sc2 anyone? |
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| 02:52.44 | Shadowed | Adys :( |
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| 03:43.49 | bleeter | http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/9/2010/03/zombieapocalypse.jpg |
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| 04:14.55 | ccox | too bad you can't remove the dungeon cooldown when you have to abandon a pug of complete retards |
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| 04:55.57 | Heather | waves. |
| 05:01.40 | ccox | waives at Heather |
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| 05:22.41 | Shirik | waives ccox from his misspelling |
| 05:23.49 | Jerub | waves at the waived waif. |
| 05:24.28 | Shirik | ._. |
| 05:24.37 | Shirik | Jerub wins |
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| 05:41.58 | truedego | ok im trying to call a table from inside a table, and i know im close, but what am i messing up on? http://wowuidev.pastey.net/134366 |
| 05:42.08 | Shirik | you don't call tables |
| 05:42.14 | Shirik | I mean you can, but it's probably a bad idea |
| 05:42.20 | Shirik | The ONLY addon I know of that does it correctly is Auctioneer |
| 05:42.52 | Adys | hes not calling it, just using it |
| 05:42.53 | Adys | but |
| 05:42.59 | Adys | for idx, value in ipairs(friends, (spec)) |
| 05:42.59 | Shirik | truedego, can you explain what you're trying to do? Doon't take offense to this, but your code doesn't really make sense |
| 05:43.02 | Adys | thats not gonna work |
| 05:43.31 | truedego | im going to have a table a few levels deep to call on and save a players info |
| 05:43.36 | Adys | for idx, value in pairs(friends) do spec = value.spec SendChatMessage... end |
| 05:43.41 | ZorbaTHut | I, as well, am confused as to what you're attempting to accomplish |
| 05:44.28 | Shadowed | Looks like he's trying to print out his friends specs |
| 05:44.37 | Shadowed | or possibly alts |
| 05:44.54 | truedego | i want to have everything a player is wearing, thier stats, the math behind the stats, and i need to save it ona player by player basis |
| 05:45.07 | truedego | multiple levels deep |
| 05:45.59 | kdtresh | is there any hope for someone who doesn't concern every second of their being with wow achievements/gearscores/wtf? |
| 05:46.08 | truedego | im doing to do a epquip compair addon that will tell you the gut stats of a new item and you can decide what adds what the most |
| 05:46.14 | Shadowed | kdtresh I hope not |
| 05:46.21 | Shadowed | then EA wouldn't be very useful! |
| 05:46.35 | ZorbaTHut | kdtresh, depends on what you mean by "hope" |
| 05:46.40 | Adys | i dont care about gearscore |
| 05:46.49 | ZorbaTHut | I mean they're obviously not going to excel in any of those categories. they might stilll have fun. |
| 05:46.51 | kdtresh | well, i'd hope not, but i sit for a decent chunk after my toddler goes to bed, waiting, and get few bites. |
| 05:46.52 | Adys | and i wouldnt care about achievements if i didnt have this ocd |
| 05:47.04 | ZorbaTHut | do you mean "hope for raiding"? :P |
| 05:47.47 | kdtresh | ZorbaTHut: i'm interested in fun, not necessarily endgame |
| 05:48.09 | Adys | anyone owns a blizzard mobile authenticator? |
| 05:48.11 | kdtresh | i'd like to see every encounter, regardless of how easy it seems |
| 05:48.21 | kdtresh | Adys: i have one |
| 05:48.29 | Adys | kdtresh: question for you |
| 05:48.42 | kdtresh | Adys: ready |
| 05:48.49 | Adys | kdtresh: are you sure? |
| 05:48.56 | Adys | I'm giving you a few seconds more |
| 05:48.59 | kdtresh | Adys: i suppose. |
| 05:49.03 | ZorbaTHut | so, it sounds like you want to raid, but don't want to put in a bunch of time to gear up? you may have trouble, since most people play the game to win. that said, if you're willing to run toc25 regularly you can probably use that to get into icc10 without much trouble |
| 05:49.16 | Shirik | Mathematical Anti-Telharsic Harfatum Septomin |
| 05:49.20 | Adys | kdtresh: can you in any way programmatically get the auth code from another app in the phone |
| 05:49.21 | ZorbaTHut | that said, some of the fights are actually tough - it's difficult to pug yogg-saron with appropriate gear, for example. lich king may be similar. |
| 05:49.22 | Adys | eg |
| 05:49.33 | ZorbaTHut | if you're not on a good server, you may have trouble finding the people necessary to do these fights. |
| 05:49.43 | kdtresh | ZorbaTHut: i created a guild for people like me, "dying breed" who aren't willing to devote hours every day to raiding. |
| 05:49.59 | Adys | if i wanted to make an irc hook that would spit the authenticator code by sshing to the phone, calling the app and somehow getting the code |
| 05:50.03 | Adys | would it be possible? |
| 05:50.03 | ZorbaTHut | alternatively, you could wait for cataclysm and do a retro arthas raid ;) |
| 05:50.28 | kdtresh | Adys: my authenticator is a hardware model, something like $6.95 from the blizzard store, is that what you're looking for? |
| 05:50.33 | ZorbaTHut | kdtresh, do you intend to raid in that guild? 'cause the thing is that raiding does actually take time |
| 05:50.39 | Adys | thats not the mobile authenticator kdtresh :P |
| 05:50.41 | ZorbaTHut | especially if you plan to do well at it |
| 05:50.49 | Adys | i have one of those too from blizzcon |
| 05:51.12 | kdtresh | ZorbaTHut: i have a wife and a 2-year-old, i'd like to participate as much as my situation allows, but none further |
| 05:51.39 | kdtresh | i've been in this situation since its "inception" as it were |
| 05:51.56 | ZorbaTHut | kdtresh, personally I'm hoping for a good LFR system similar to 3.3 LFD |
| 05:52.09 | ZorbaTHut | but there are many issues with the concept that largely don't exist with LFD |
| 05:52.15 | kdtresh | though i wasn't ever willing to chuck 3+ hours a night to raiding, if that's what you're asking |
| 05:52.22 | ZorbaTHut | until they do that, your options are basically "pug" or "pug" |
| 05:52.34 | ZorbaTHut | is that "3+ hours a night every night", or "i can't do 3+ hours on any night ever"? |
| 05:52.47 | Jerub | kdtresh: i raid icc10/25 and do 3 hours 2 nights a week, largely unscheduled. |
| 05:52.56 | Jerub | entirely pugged too |
| 05:53.14 | ZorbaTHut | jerub, including Lich King, out of curiosity? |
| 05:53.17 | kdtresh | my schedule isn't rigid, though i can't schedule +3 hrs on any given night |
| 05:53.26 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: never downed festergut |
| 05:53.38 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: let alone the extra wings of icc. pugs do first wing icc. |
| 05:53.47 | kdtresh | if i'm mid-raid, whether it be a pug or a friend guild, i can't go more than 4 or so hrs on any given night |
| 05:53.48 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, that's sorta the problem. at this point in gear, ICC isn't really practically puggable |
| 05:53.56 | ZorbaTHut | unless by "pug" you mean "yeah we got a pug out of the best four guilds on the server" |
| 05:54.02 | ZorbaTHut | "it's totally a pug, some of us haven't even raided together before" |
| 05:54.27 | ZorbaTHut | kdtresh, that may just be a permanent stumbling block then. there are a lot of bosses in ICC. |
| 05:54.36 | ZorbaTHut | and pugs very rarely reform for a second night. |
| 05:54.39 | kdtresh | i was lucky one week and pugged an icc10 group and ended up with 2 upgrades, including a BoE piece, which i unfortunately used |
| 05:55.07 | kdtresh | though i suppose "unfortunately" conveys my situation, which may not be typical |
| 05:55.10 | Wobin | Nice |
| 05:55.12 | Wobin | a DK tank |
| 05:55.15 | Wobin | doing 1.5kdps |
| 05:55.22 | Wobin | (at level 70) |
| 05:55.31 | ZorbaTHut | wobin, not bad |
| 05:55.38 | Wobin | all suited up in MgT purples |
| 05:55.44 | Jerub | i don't see pugs downing the lichking until cataclysm |
| 05:55.44 | kdtresh | i was a holy/prot pally, and both were for healing, including a BoE healing plate belt |
| 05:55.49 | ZorbaTHut | you've found a rare breed of tank: "competent" |
| 05:55.52 | Wobin | indeed |
| 05:55.58 | ZorbaTHut | jerub, I can easily imagine a mal'ganis semi-pug pulling it off |
| 05:56.00 | Jerub | but casual raid guilds may do it. |
| 05:56.00 | Wobin | I hope our random pug paths cross once more |
| 05:56.12 | ZorbaTHut | I mean, you're decked out in 25-man heroic gear, icc10 is probably a bit of a cakewalk |
| 05:56.12 | Jerub | hellscreams warsong, etc. |
| 05:56.31 | Wobin | He was Roofewl from Barthilas (US) if you ever see him |
| 06:02.05 | Adys | Small question to everyone: http://db.mmo-champion.com/quests/ |
| 06:02.15 | Adys | When clicking a generic quest listing, what would you expect to see on top? |
| 06:02.23 | Adys | low level quests? raid quests? |
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| 06:02.40 | Wobin | ie, what default to sort by? |
| 06:02.47 | Adys | yes |
| 06:03.15 | Wobin | alphabetical is pretty standard |
| 06:03.22 | Jerub | Adys: alphabetical by zone |
| 06:03.25 | Shirik | so on my phone I can set up spam blocking so I don't receive calls from a particular number |
| 06:03.29 | Wobin | maybe add in filter boxes for all the columns? |
| 06:03.30 | Jerub | i'd expect to see ashenvale first or something |
| 06:03.31 | Shirik | I log into it today and see this: Note: Effective April 15, 2010, only incoming calls and incoming text/picture/video messages will be blocked. |
| 06:03.38 | Adys | hm, interesting jerub |
| 06:03.41 | Shirik | As opposed to what, blocking outgoing calls? |
| 06:03.46 | Wobin | like "show only level 70 quests with the word 'frog' in it"? |
| 06:03.47 | Shirik | wtf would I want to block outgoing calls for? |
| 06:04.16 | Wobin | viruses? |
| 06:04.30 | Jerub | Adys: actually, i'd expect to see the current world event on top, /then/ ashenvale |
| 06:04.30 | Adys | Wobin: http://db.mmo-champion.com/quests/?level=70&name__imatches=frog |
| 06:04.30 | Adys | :P |
| 06:04.58 | Wobin | Adys, oh I know it's fully capable of doing so via the 'add a filter' |
| 06:05.05 | Jerub | http://db.mmo-champion.com/quests/?level__gt=70&description__imatches=frog |
| 06:05.08 | Adys | I will add filters for columns |
| 06:05.17 | Wobin | just since you have the first column filterboxed.... |
| 06:05.18 | Jerub | are you thinking of http://db.mmo-champion.com/q/11476/a-carver-and-a-croaker/ ? |
| 06:05.51 | kdtresh | if anyone cares, busy atm, hold |
| 06:06.31 | Adys | Ill try to improve usability of filters and tables over the next few days |
| 06:14.57 | kdtresh | whee, at least that random heroic ended in success, lol |
| 06:23.59 | DWSR | Shirik: As opposed to blocking calls that haven't made up their mind yet |
| 06:24.08 | DWSR | Or maybe bi-directional calls? |
| 06:24.43 | DWSR | Subtle unintentional innuendo ftw. |
| 06:28.10 | Taroven | Is unintentional subtlety possible? o_O |
| 06:32.14 | Jerub | i hate tanks. |
| 06:32.19 | Jerub | especially heroic tanks. |
| 06:33.10 | Taroven | I'm the heroic tank everyone but the healer loves to get. |
| 06:33.12 | Taroven | Do I count? |
| 06:33.35 | Jerub | depends on how much of an ass you are. |
| 06:33.40 | Jerub | also, why do healers hate to get you? |
| 06:33.49 | DWSR | Hey,would it be possible to somehow allow the chat editbox to prase string formatting? |
| 06:33.59 | Taroven | I have mostly 251/264 gear and put it to good use. |
| 06:34.01 | Adys | eh? |
| 06:34.20 | Jerub | Taroven: you mean thehealer gets bored? |
| 06:34.27 | DWSR | Taroven: Yeah, I know that feeling. I just hold down backpedal and pull the instance when I'm in a good group |
| 06:34.37 | Taroven | Hell no. I mean I pull until I hit hard aoe caps on thunderclap and shockwave. |
| 06:34.38 | Jerub | i had a shamman healer put down healing stream totem and basically go afk in VH today. was awesome. |
| 06:34.52 | DWSR | meh. |
| 06:35.05 | DWSR | I duo'ed Anub'Arak the other day with an ele shaman. |
| 06:35.10 | Taroven | I define "hard" as "does less than 10% normal damage" btw. |
| 06:35.26 | Taroven | Everyone else get roflstomped? |
| 06:35.57 | DWSR | Taroven: yeah, died to pound. |
| 06:36.16 | DWSR | I didn't bother turning him. |
| 06:36.18 | Taroven | Must've been one hella undergeared group. |
| 06:36.20 | Taroven | Heh. |
| 06:36.28 | DWSR | meh, pound hits for like 18k |
| 06:36.52 | Taroven | True, but most dps these days have 20k+ |
| 06:37.10 | DWSR | yeah, wasn't a well geared group, to be sure. |
| 06:37.27 | DWSR | They were so impressed when I killed him. |
| 06:37.44 | DWSR | I duo'ed Sapphiron the other day with a healer wearing blues. |
| 06:38.00 | ajmitch | how long did that kill take? |
| 06:38.06 | DWSR | He hit the enrage timer. |
| 06:38.09 | DWSR | But I was definitely winning. |
| 06:38.17 | Taroven | I still think it's hilarious how I hit 80 on my hunter, spent 3 days running heroics, and stepped into an ICC25 to find myself at #4-5 consistently on damage done... |
| 06:38.34 | DWSR | s/hilarious/pathetic/ |
| 06:39.09 | Taroven | s/hilarious/pathetic (good point)/ |
| 06:39.30 | Taroven | Hey, at least I wasn't BM. |
| 06:39.36 | DWSR | yeah |
| 06:39.49 | Jerub | Taroven: i've been 80 for a week and don't even have 4T9 yet :( |
| 06:39.51 | Taroven | Though, now that he's been 80 for about a month, I'll be doing that. |
| 06:39.53 | DWSR | I laff at BM hunters who are like "But I have raid buffs!" |
| 06:39.54 | Jerub | Taroven: did you get guild help doing dungeon runs? |
| 06:40.24 | Taroven | Jerub: I leveled with a healer and the guild happened to have a tank who wanted to build a dps set. |
| 06:40.31 | DWSR | Jerub: 4pT9 isn't worth it for a lot of classes since you need trophies for the T9.25 and you can get ilvl 245 gear for straight triumph. |
| 06:40.38 | Jerub | Taroven: oh, right, that explains why you blitzed through it. |
| 06:40.53 | Taroven | Gotta say. Epic duo instance runs from 50-73 are amazing. BM hunter + Resto druid = LAWL. |
| 06:40.54 | Jerub | DWSR: I've been 80 for a week. it's T9 or crafted pieces only. |
| 06:40.55 | DWSR | Jerub: As a DPS maybe. |
| 06:41.23 | Jerub | DWSR: can't run raids until i get a reasonable armor set, and i can't get that without running raids or spending emblems |
| 06:41.25 | DWSR | Jerub: I geared my tank up to ICC10 levels in a week with no stam trinket. |
| 06:41.34 | Taroven | Jerub: 4t9 isn't worth it for many classes. |
| 06:41.37 | DWSR | Jerub: You should honestly just get the 245 gear from triumph. |
| 06:41.51 | Jerub | .. I actually mean 5x232 or higher piecs. |
| 06:41.52 | DWSR | You're going to be replacing the tier pieces with T10 as you get the frost anyway. |
| 06:41.58 | Taroven | In fact, many 4tX bonuses are utter crap. |
| 06:42.13 | DWSR | 4pT9 was bad for most classes. |
| 06:42.26 | Wobin | shaman was pretty good |
| 06:42.29 | Jerub | feral 4T10 tank bonus is awesome. :) |
| 06:42.31 | Taroven | Shadow Priest: WOOT! 5% mindflay crit! |
| 06:42.43 | Wobin | well |
| 06:42.44 | DWSR | Jerub: If you can't get yourself mostly >232 in a week, urdoinitwrong. |
| 06:42.49 | Jerub | but i know what you mean. I'm just trying to ge tout of blues. |
| 06:42.50 | Wobin | shaman 4pc T9 was -decent- |
| 06:42.52 | Jerub | DWSR: it's a mage. |
| 06:42.58 | DWSR | Jerub: If you can't get yourself mostly >232 in a week, urdoinitwrong. |
| 06:43.04 | Jerub | DWSR: the queue times suck, and everyone does as few bosses as possible. |
| 06:43.12 | Taroven | Jerub: I only had help for about 10-15 runs. |
| 06:43.20 | Jerub | yeah, i haven't /done/ 10 runs yet. |
| 06:43.23 | DWSR | Taroven: That's still an extra piece of gear. |
| 06:43.26 | Taroven | Jerub: After those, I pretty much solo queued. |
| 06:43.31 | Taroven | True, but meh. |
| 06:43.35 | Taroven | I know your pain. |
| 06:43.39 | DWSR | hehe. |
| 06:43.41 | Jerub | i need trinkets next. |
| 06:43.43 | DWSR | This is why I'm glad I made a tank. |
| 06:43.44 | Jerub | i'm in green trinktes. |
| 06:43.48 | Wobin | dps queuing is -terrible- |
| 06:43.50 | DWSR | I QQ if I have to wait like 30 sceonds. |
| 06:43.54 | Taroven | Dammit, now I want to level my pally. |
| 06:43.55 | DWSR | It's so good. |
| 06:43.56 | Wobin | I stopped playing on my rogue |
| 06:44.00 | Jerub | yeah, i'm a fucking idiot. managed to leave my level 41 warrior tank parked /outside/the inn |
| 06:44.00 | Wobin | and transferred my priest |
| 06:44.03 | Wobin | just for shorter queue |
| 06:44.05 | Wobin | s |
| 06:44.08 | Taroven | I've got 5 80s... |
| 06:44.08 | Jerub | so i went to go use his delicious rested and he only had 22% |
| 06:44.21 | DWSR | fail Jerub |
| 06:44.21 | Taroven | My Rogue and Druid are almost forgotten /sadface |
| 06:44.33 | Wobin | Taroven, transform the druid into a tree or bear |
| 06:44.38 | Jerub | Wobin: i wonder how soon we'll see the queue times normalise? will we actually see the tank population increase? |
| 06:44.48 | Wobin | no |
| 06:44.48 | DWSR | no |
| 06:45.06 | Wobin | dps is too comparitively easy |
| 06:45.10 | Taroven | Wobin: Druid was my main up till the middle of the Ulduar days, was feral+resto most of it =P |
| 06:45.12 | Wobin | to tanking and healing |
| 06:45.28 | Taroven | Quit for a while, came back, made it a critchicken, still ended up dumping it for the priest. |
| 06:45.37 | DWSR | As someone said in here a while ago, the problem is positive feedback'ing. |
| 06:45.41 | Taroven | Not out of any specific dislike for druids, things just worked out that way. |
| 06:45.59 | Jerub | Taroven: feral tanking is so easy and queue times are miniscule. |
| 06:46.10 | Jerub | Taroven: and you can tank in any gear whatsoever provided you have the right talents. |
| 06:46.15 | Jerub | it's respec and gogogo. |
| 06:46.15 | DWSR | As soon as a tank hits 80, they do heroics for 3 days until their eyes bleed and they're swimming in 232/245 gear. |
| 06:46.21 | DWSR | And then they stop doing heroics. |
| 06:46.34 | Jerub | DWSR: except for their daily run |
| 06:46.35 | DWSR | So no, we're not going to see the queue times unskew. |
| 06:46.41 | Jerub | which is the tanks that i see in heroics. |
| 06:46.49 | DWSR | Jerub: I now do that exclusively with guildies. |
| 06:46.51 | Jerub | where they skip as many bosses as possible, meaning i get 2-4 triumph emblems per run. |
| 06:47.29 | Taroven | Jerub: Yeah, but on the other hand I have zero motivation to play the druid. I've got a Warrior and Priest regularly played, and not much motivation to play more than I already do =P |
| 06:48.10 | Taroven | I love my Druid, I really do. I just can't seem to play it anymore. |
| 06:48.15 | Jerub | :) |
| 06:48.17 | DWSR | Taroven: Spec out of feral. |
| 06:48.23 | DWSR | err. |
| 06:48.27 | DWSR | spec out of boomking. |
| 06:48.32 | Taroven | Heh. |
| 06:48.37 | DWSR | boomking's fucking fail. |
| 06:48.45 | DWSR | Go PvP resto and PvE resto. |
| 06:48.51 | Jerub | i like the name 'critchicken' tho. |
| 06:48.56 | Taroven | I did pvp resto for ALLLLLLLL of BC. |
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| 06:49.29 | DWSR | You did PvP resto how much of BC? |
| 06:49.29 | Jerub | i've been running both my 80s through heroics every day then going to play sc2 most nights. |
| 06:50.24 | Taroven | All of it. Like, my Druid hit 80 a couple weeks in, did the crazy spec dance, and ended up healing BGs and arena teams until wotlk was released. |
| 06:50.46 | Taroven | It was fun, if perhaps a little rediculous. |
| 06:51.06 | Taroven | I prolly spelled that wrong. |
| 06:51.15 | Wobin | ridiculous |
| 06:51.18 | DWSR | rediculous(sp?) |
| 06:51.18 | batbot | DWSR, ridiculous. |
| 06:51.31 | Taroven | I had no idea it did that. |
| 06:51.33 | DWSR | adding (sp?) to the end of a word that you're unsure of gets batbot to spellcheck. |
| 06:51.34 | batbot | DWSR, adding is correct. |
| 06:51.36 | DWSR | mhm. |
| 06:51.44 | Taroven | Nifteh. |
| 06:51.53 | DWSR | yeah, verily. |
| 06:51.56 | Taroven | Hm. |
| 06:51.58 | Taroven | O RITE |
| 06:52.07 | Taroven | brb, checking exact model number of secondary router... |
| 06:52.17 | DWSR | Taroven: btw, playing with 30 bloompowerday is win |
| 06:53.28 | Taroven | DWSR: Think I'm at 25 atm, lemme doublecheck. |
| 06:53.41 | DWSR | btw. |
| 06:53.46 | DWSR | BloomPowerNight has no effect. |
| 06:53.54 | Taroven | Nope, 20 |
| 06:54.05 | Taroven | Actually, found where BloomPowerNight comes into play. |
| 06:54.10 | DWSR | Hrm. |
| 06:54.13 | Taroven | Are you alliance? |
| 06:54.16 | DWSR | I'm sitting in Dal, it's night time, no bloom change. |
| 06:54.16 | DWSR | Yeah. |
| 06:54.26 | Taroven | Head to IF and take the gryphon out. |
| 06:54.33 | DWSR | LOLZOMGBLOOM? |
| 06:54.36 | Wobin | yeah that freaked me out =P |
| 06:54.38 | Taroven | Yep |
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| 06:54.49 | DWSR | ZorbaBeta! |
| 06:54.49 | Wobin | it was HOLYCRAPUIBLOOM |
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| 06:55.07 | ZorbaBeta | fuck the internet |
| 06:55.11 | Taroven | Known about it for a while actually, just didn't remember it when we were talking about it before |
| 06:55.12 | Shirik | agreed |
| 06:58.24 | Taroven | Grah. Why do both of my routers have to suck. |
| 06:58.38 | Taroven | 1) I have no QoS settings available on either. |
| 06:58.51 | Taroven | 2) Neither can run DD-WRT or similar. |
| 06:59.18 | Taroven | Screwed, that's what I am. |
| 06:59.28 | ZorbaBeta | 3) buy new router that doesn't suck |
| 06:59.41 | ZorbaBeta | router &= ~suck; |
| 07:00.13 | Taroven | If I had a job, that would be exactly my solution. |
| 07:00.29 | Arrowmaster | what kinda routers are they? |
| 07:01.31 | Jerub | why are you using QoS? |
| 07:01.32 | Taroven | D-Link WBR-2310 and a TP-Link TL-WR642G |
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| 07:01.53 | Jerub | ZorbaBeta: surely it would be router ^= suck; |
| 07:01.55 | Taroven | Better question would be why am I not. |
| 07:02.19 | Taroven | There's seven comps and three web-connected consoles in this house. |
| 07:02.32 | ZorbaBeta | jerub, that runs the danger of accidentally suckifying the router if it actually didn't suck |
| 07:02.37 | ZorbaBeta | you'd want to verify it with a conditional first |
| 07:02.53 | ZorbaBeta | also, if the suck mask is more than one bit, you may end up with a router that sucks in a different manner |
| 07:03.34 | Taroven | ANYWAY... yeah. |
| 07:03.42 | Taroven | 7 comps, 3 consoles. |
| 07:03.50 | Shirik | :( |
| 07:03.56 | Shirik | I don't get my verizon wireless discount online |
| 07:04.14 | Taroven | 3 comps wired, 4 + at least one wireless console |
| 07:04.45 | Taroven | s/4 +/4 wireless +/ |
| 07:06.31 | Taroven | During the weekend or between 3pm and midnight, it's almost impossible to play wow without incredibly high latency, or do anything online for that matter. |
| 07:07.18 | DWSR | Guess you should change your sleep habits. |
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| 07:12.08 | Shirik | Taroven: Better than my ISP |
| 07:12.22 | Shirik | My ISP decides nobody uses the internet at 2 AM so it cuts out every 10 minutes for like 2 hours |
| 07:12.26 | Shirik | I guess while they're doing maintenance |
| 07:12.34 | Taroven | Cute. |
| 07:12.43 | Taroven | My ISP isn't that evil. |
| 07:12.46 | Taroven | It's just... |
| 07:13.04 | Taroven | The people I live with have no understanding of how bandwidth works. |
| 07:13.15 | Taroven | Or torrent clients. |
| 07:13.29 | DWSR | So just start portblocking |
| 07:14.01 | Taroven | If I could find the ports, absolutely. |
| 07:14.10 | Taroven | But it's likely 90% port 80. |
| 07:14.24 | DWSR | nope. |
| 07:14.34 | Taroven | I DO have a sort of hot-blocker. |
| 07:14.47 | Taroven | Hit a button, that person's comp has zero interweb access. |
| 07:14.48 | Jerub | oh, you don't actually want QoS, you want traffic shaping. |
| 07:15.07 | Taroven | Same diff in the end, on a home network. |
| 07:15.09 | Jerub | and man, that's evil on linux :( |
| 07:15.25 | Jerub | Taroven: people mean a huge variety of things when they say 'qos' |
| 07:15.26 | Shirik | I enforced my own QoS on my network once |
| 07:15.28 | Jerub | and most of them are lying |
| 07:15.38 | Shirik | roommate taking up too much of the internet |
| 07:15.42 | Shirik | I flood him with spoofed ARP packets |
| 07:15.47 | Shirik | result: quality = 0 |
| 07:16.11 | Taroven | QoS, to me, means "Let these packets through regardless of what the rest of the local traffic is." |
| 07:16.36 | DWSR | That's not QoS. |
| 07:16.59 | Taroven | Prolly not, but it's quicker than typing traffic shaping and people generally understand the intent. |
| 07:17.10 | Shirik | well QoS is about determining priority of speed and reliability |
| 07:17.18 | Taroven | ^ |
| 07:17.37 | Shirik | flooding with invalid ARP packets = your level of QoS: reliability = 0% |
| 07:17.54 | Jerub | Shirik: hehe, if only that were true! |
| 07:17.55 | Taroven | 3am, ability to form a coherent sentence (or thought, for that matter) is in rapid decline. Have not yet hit the sugar point. |
| 07:18.03 | Jerub | on the other hand, it is a basket of lies. |
| 07:18.05 | Jerub | and you will eat them. |
| 07:18.08 | Shirik | ? |
| 07:18.09 | Jerub | and they will not be delicious |
| 07:18.13 | Shirik | ?? |
| 07:18.24 | batrick | http://i.imgur.com/8XN1y.gif |
| 07:18.29 | Jerub | you used words that have no meaning. |
| 07:18.40 | Jerub | like 'speed' |
| 07:18.43 | Shirik | batrick holy shit |
| 07:18.51 | Shirik | Jerub: Oh that sentence |
| 07:18.53 | Shirik | true |
| 07:18.58 | Shirik | it's not a formal definition by any mean |
| 07:18.59 | DWSR | That's fucking awesome batrick |
| 07:19.06 | Shirik | batrick: Want to know something scary? |
| 07:19.14 | Shirik | That looks exactly like someone I know |
| 07:19.19 | Shirik | And what's worse, it's something he would do |
| 07:19.35 | Taroven | That... is awesome. |
| 07:19.59 | DWSR | Anyone that can comment on the difference between resto shaman and resto druids in terms of raid healing? |
| 07:20.08 | Taroven | DWSR: Easily. |
| 07:20.23 | Taroven | Resto shammies are the kings of the melee group. |
| 07:20.24 | Jerub | DWSR: shrug. they're both efficient at it. |
| 07:20.39 | Taroven | Spam chain heal on tank. Repeat 500x. |
| 07:21.20 | Taroven | Resto druids lack a little in the instant raidheal department when more than one heal target is involved, but will dish out HPS like no other when they've got their shit down. |
| 07:21.35 | Jerub | whereas resto druids throw their 15 second GCD hot on everyone who takes damage, throws their 5 person splash damage hot on the melee group fora bit of a pick me up, and spams nourish if someone takes a lot of damage. |
| 07:21.55 | Taroven | Exactly. |
| 07:22.01 | Jerub | but nourish is a 1.2 second cast time with a reasonable amount of haste, not a GCD cast. |
| 07:22.03 | Taroven | Actually, replace nourish with regrowth. |
| 07:22.17 | Taroven | It's heals over many, many seconds. =P |
| 07:22.25 | Jerub | Taroven: regrowth takes longer to csat, i mean 'cast 3-4 in a row' |
| 07:22.37 | Taroven | Of course. |
| 07:22.41 | Jerub | i really don't regrowth when raid healing |
| 07:22.47 | Taroven | I do! =P |
| 07:22.55 | Jerub | it's all about consistent hots and emergency reactions. |
| 07:23.01 | Jerub | (like swiftmend and nourish) |
| 07:23.22 | Jerub | i regrowth the tanks or a mark on saurfang. |
| 07:23.25 | Jerub | not dps |
| 07:23.28 | Taroven | Seen our resto druids pull 8k HPS on festergut via regrowth+hotspam too. |
| 07:23.51 | Taroven | In cases where a lot of people are taking a lot of damage over time, regrowth is amazing. |
| 07:23.54 | Jerub | oh, festerguts a weird case. it's just massive amounts of consistent raid damgae. |
| 07:24.01 | Taroven | Yep. |
| 07:24.19 | Jerub | most fights a single rejuv will get a dps up to full or you need to hit rejuv+nourishspam to get a dying dps to full. |
| 07:24.22 | Taroven | In most cases I'm inclined towards nourish for the quick heal, but regrowth does have some nice perks. |
| 07:24.36 | Taroven | Not the least of which being swiftmend availability. |
| 07:24.49 | Jerub | having more than 1 raid member between 30 and 70% for more than 2 seconds is a rare occurance except those aoe damage fights like fester. |
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| 07:25.28 | Taroven | Yeah. |
| 07:25.46 | Taroven | In related news, I hit 7k hps on fester today on my priest. |
| 07:25.53 | Jerub | they'll either be healed to full nearly immeidately (in which case rejuv is enough, then anything more is overhealing) or they'll die, in which case hots aren't enough |
| 07:25.59 | Jerub | that's awesome, grats. |
| 07:26.04 | Jerub | i want to do the dreamwalker fight |
| 07:26.12 | Jerub | so i can battle it out with other healers on a HPS fight. |
| 07:26.14 | Taroven | 50% renew, 30% ProM, 20% coh. |
| 07:26.29 | Jerub | fester is meh because even with no deaths we can't beat his enrage timer. |
| 07:26.43 | Taroven | Ew. |
| 07:26.55 | Taroven | Dreamwalker isn't gonna be any better for you, even with awesome healers. |
| 07:26.58 | Jerub | (icc25, pugging along with a guild) |
| 07:27.05 | Taroven | It's as much a dps race as it is a healing race, sadly. |
| 07:27.09 | Jerub | really? |
| 07:27.14 | Jerub | damn |
| 07:27.21 | Jerub | i thought it was easy on dps, just raid mobility |
| 07:27.26 | Taroven | Also, ICC25 Fester is atrociously hardcore. |
| 07:27.28 | Jerub | i haven't seen the fight except in videos. |
| 07:27.30 | Taroven | Naw. |
| 07:27.33 | Jerub | yeah, nerf pls. |
| 07:27.46 | Taroven | We pumped about 10-12 attempts into dreamwalker tonight |
| 07:28.04 | Taroven | Every wipe was dps issues |
| 07:28.10 | DWSR | wait.... |
| 07:28.10 | Jerub | oh dear :( |
| 07:28.17 | DWSR | 25 fester's a joke. |
| 07:28.57 | Taroven | Honestly I've only had the opportunity once, and it was with a raid on its last leg. |
| 07:29.15 | Jerub | DWSR: yes, we know you're awesomely leet with an awesomely leet guild where everyone does over 9000 dps. it's a very hard fight with a concrete enrage. |
| 07:29.19 | Taroven | All I know is that napkin math puts it at a 7500dps requirement for every dps, considering 3 tanks and 5 heals. |
| 07:30.13 | Jerub | the same guild who can't down fester did OS25+3D zerg earlier the same evening as an achievement run, so they're not exactly noobishly geared. |
| 07:30.22 | Taroven | Heh. |
| 07:30.31 | Jerub | and we one-shot the first wing. |
| 07:30.35 | Taroven | On the bright side, Fester on 10man is freakishly easy for us. |
| 07:30.43 | Jerub | Taroven: really? that's good. |
| 07:30.49 | DWSR | Jerub: OS25+3D zerg doesn't have a 7.5k DPS requirement, either. |
| 07:30.51 | Jerub | My 10man pug this week was fail. we couldn't down stinky. |
| 07:30.56 | DWSR | Though, let's be honest. |
| 07:31.02 | Jerub | :( |
| 07:31.12 | DWSR | People were doing >7.5k DPS before they even hit ToGC25. |
| 07:31.17 | Taroven | Stinky just requires three healers who don't fail and two tanks who know how to taunt. |
| 07:31.21 | DWSR | So, 7.5k DPS per person is pretty much a joke. |
| 07:31.36 | Jerub | DWSR: I've never been in togc25. |
| 07:31.39 | Taroven | If you have two extremely win healers then screw the third and make one respec. |
| 07:31.49 | Jerub | and have only 2 bosses of togc10 down. |
| 07:32.16 | Jerub | i've 2 healed first wing. |
| 07:32.28 | DWSR | You can solo heal the first wing on 10m. |
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| 07:32.46 | Taroven | DWSR: My hunter is up to around 7k in toc25, yet I see so many people with gear so much better than mine struggling to hit 5k. I have no idea what's up with that. |
| 07:32.54 | Jerub | DWSR: someone other than myself could. |
| 07:33.01 | Jerub | i, on the other hand, would oom and wipe the raid. |
| 07:33.02 | DWSR | Taroven: People are fucking awful at life. |
| 07:33.10 | Taroven | DWSR: I've done that. It's fun. |
| 07:33.19 | Taroven | Incredibly hard on mana, but fun. |
| 07:33.55 | Taroven | Also, I have no idea what it is about what I do, but I think I've dispelled the rumor that a Holy Priest does not make a good tank healer. |
| 07:34.22 | DWSR | They make shit tank healers. |
| 07:34.26 | Jerub | any class can tank heal. |
| 07:35.03 | Taroven | Well, considering the 40% healing boost "OH GOD NO" button on a one minute cd, and a 20k healbomb on a 1.2 second cast, on demand... |
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| 07:35.37 | Jerub | even nourish is 15k and 1.2 second cast, that plus GoRR equals some pretty quick heals. |
| 07:35.50 | Jerub | (I only know drood healing, haven't gotten another healer up yet) |
| 07:36.04 | Taroven | Yes, but Nourish has a rampup time. |
| 07:36.25 | Jerub | Taroven: you mean it hits after the 1.2second cast not at the start? |
| 07:36.50 | Taroven | If I need instant that badly, I'm screwed anyway. =P |
| 07:37.07 | Jerub | yeah, there's swiftmend, but the CD sucks. |
| 07:37.14 | Jerub | and NS, which i never remember to use |
| 07:37.29 | Taroven | I almost never remember guardian spirit. |
| 07:37.30 | Jerub | (and manage to land it after another healer has hit a button and usually do a 18k overheal) |
| 07:37.33 | Taroven | But when I do, it's sexy. |
| 07:37.40 | DWSR | OH GOD |
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| 07:37.44 | DWSR | WHY IS LEVELS 1-30 SO BORING |
| 07:37.47 | DWSR | tears out teeth |
| 07:37.50 | Taroven | Saw our holy pally dump a 110k holy light crit into Dreamwalker. |
| 07:37.59 | Jerub | DWSR: grind RFC LFD. |
| 07:38.00 | Taroven | I'm so incredibly pissed that we wiped on that one. |
| 07:38.02 | DWSR | Taroven: Low |
| 07:38.06 | DWSR | Jerub: I'm lvl4 |
| 07:38.13 | DWSR | Saw a 150k crit. |
| 07:38.24 | Jerub | DWSR: how on earth are you level 4 for more than 5 minutes? |
| 07:38.29 | Taroven | DWSR: Duh. We haven't been able to get that fight down. |
| 07:38.35 | DWSR | Jerub: I have the attention spam of a gnat. |
| 07:38.39 | DWSR | s/spam/span/ |
| 07:38.47 | Taroven | I prefer attention spam. |
| 07:38.56 | DWSR | spams attention |
| 07:39.13 | DWSR | I love Steam. |
| 07:39.22 | DWSR | "New Update available. Ready to play in 2m 38s" |
| 07:39.26 | DWSR | The bar's at 100%. |
| 07:39.32 | Taroven | lawl. |
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| 07:42.15 | Jerub | sigh, stuck babysitting somethign at work instead of home playing sc2 |
| 07:42.17 | Taroven | Random question of the night... Anyone happen to have a google voice invite? |
| 07:43.31 | Taroven | Also... why is there no BoA shield? o_O |
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| 07:47.01 | Jerub | Taroven: no boa shield: probably same reason there's no boa offhand or bow. |
| 07:47.16 | Taroven | There's a boa bow. |
| 07:47.22 | Taroven | 65 badges. |
| 07:47.32 | Jerub | sigh, shows how much attention i pay |
| 07:48.21 | Taroven | I'd loves me a Rekindled Skullflame Shield or something. |
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| 07:52.20 | Arrowmaster | going with the theme of the rest of the BoA items, it would be that sheild that drops from drakk |
| 07:52.42 | Taroven | Hand of Justice was BRD. =P |
| 07:53.15 | Arrowmaster | skullflame was a BoE epic |
| 07:53.18 | Taroven | note to self, actually read. |
| 07:53.19 | Taroven | Yeah. |
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| 07:54.24 | nevcairiel | they only have "weapons", that is a main/one hand weapons, and a bow for hunters .. dual-weilders can fill both slots, while casters have to pickup some random off-hand .. but what can you do :d |
| 07:55.19 | Arrowmaster | is there a caster main hand? |
| 07:55.29 | nevcairiel | sure |
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| 07:57.29 | nevcairiel | the aurastone hammer out of MC is there, which seems more for healers due to the MP5 anyway, but we also have the staff for casters, scholomance headmasters charge |
| 07:57.44 | Jerub | this is the kind of gold i love on forums: http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23766991849&sid=5000 |
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| 07:59.57 | Taroven | Jerub, that is indeed a gem. |
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| 08:09.34 | Wobin | Note to self: Notice that a 69 tank vs a 73 elite is going to get chain crit |
| 08:09.49 | nevcairiel | chain crit? I wouldnt claim that |
| 08:10.02 | Wobin | Note to self: Notice that a 69 tank vs a 73 elite is going die fast |
| 08:10.15 | nevcairiel | that possibly :D |
| 08:10.22 | Wobin | (due to ridiculous amounts of crits =P) |
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| 08:11.28 | Wobin | with only a single item with defense on them |
| 08:11.41 | Wobin | unless pallies get some magical crit reduction |
| 08:11.43 | Wobin | do they? |
| 08:12.02 | Jerub | Wobin: you're thinking druids. |
| 08:12.03 | Jerub | :P |
| 08:12.09 | Wobin | oh I know druids do |
| 08:12.13 | Wobin | I was wondering if pallies did |
| 08:12.17 | Jerub | but some pallys have defence rating on their gear at 69 |
| 08:12.21 | Jerub | considering there are BC gems |
| 08:14.08 | Jerub | goes back to trawling sc2 forums |
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| 08:22.59 | Wobin | http://takhisis.livejournal.com/833868.html |
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| 08:43.21 | Jerub | lol, yatzhee is doing a video game trivia night |
| 08:43.44 | Jerub | http://manabar.com.au/events_23-03-2010.php |
| 08:48.14 | DWSR | lol |
| 08:48.18 | DWSR | Man, I'm jealous and want to go. |
| 08:51.58 | Jerub | apparently the line is down the street at the moment |
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| 08:52.08 | Jerub | which is... basically unheard of before midnight in the valley |
| 08:52.15 | Jerub | (it had a line since before midday) |
| 08:54.04 | Wobin | I wonder how well he'll do mostly unscripted =P |
| 08:56.06 | Arrowmaster | he will be too slow |
| 08:57.17 | Wobin | it's a great name for a bar |
| 08:59.01 | DWSR | Mana Bar? Yeah |
| 08:59.06 | Wobin | Jerub, can you get anything done on EB? |
| 08:59.09 | DWSR | New ZP's about Heavy Rain, it's pretty funny. |
| 08:59.17 | Wobin | I just get redirected to a blank page |
| 09:01.31 | Arrowmaster | i was just watching that |
| 09:01.47 | Arrowmaster | which reminds me i need to take back heavy rain before my 30 days is up |
| 09:02.12 | Arrowmaster | which means i should do it monday |
| 09:02.20 | Wobin | is it pretty much as he tells it? |
| 09:02.29 | Arrowmaster | i dont know i havent opened it |
| 09:04.13 | DWSR | Wobin: I heard "it was alright" |
| 09:04.31 | Wobin | glowing praise =) |
| 09:04.37 | Shirik | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/7446850/Briton-is-recognised-as-worlds-first-officially-genderless-person.html |
| 09:04.52 | Wobin | Is'nt that a bit old, Shirik? |
| 09:05.07 | Shirik | is 5 days old? |
| 09:05.13 | Wobin | On the Internet? |
| 09:05.19 | Wobin | pft. Of course it is =) |
| 09:05.20 | Shirik | ok |
| 09:05.21 | Shirik | well |
| 09:05.27 | Shirik | like I said, I found a gray hair recently |
| 09:05.29 | Shirik | I'm old and slow now |
| 09:05.45 | Wobin | wow, Creepy Gunther is still going |
| 09:06.02 | Wobin | with his crazy plastination |
| 09:06.58 | Shirik | The UKâs Gender Trust welcomed the case. A spokesman said: âMany people like the idea of being genderless.â |
| 09:07.03 | Shirik | how the hell do you make a statement like that? |
| 09:07.22 | Wobin | how to you mean? |
| 09:07.28 | Wobin | how do you mean? |
| 09:07.30 | Shirik | he took a poll? |
| 09:07.38 | Shirik | How do you go up to someone like "Hey, would you rather be genderless?" |
| 09:07.42 | Wobin | or talked to people? |
| 09:07.52 | Wobin | it's not a specific statistic |
| 09:07.56 | Wobin | he's stating an opinion |
| 09:08.06 | Shirik | he's stating it as a fact |
| 09:08.12 | Shirik | he didn't say "I think many people like the idea..." |
| 09:08.20 | Shirik | he said "Many people like..." |
| 09:08.20 | Wobin | And I assume, given his position, he's spoken to many people who have that opinion |
| 09:08.34 | Shirik | it's not him/her that said it |
| 09:08.36 | Shirik | it's some spokesman |
| 09:08.39 | Wobin | I still don't see any issue with the statement =P |
| 09:08.52 | Wobin | it's not like he's saying "20% of all people like the idea of being genderless" |
| 09:08.52 | Shirik | spokesman of the government or company or something |
| 09:09.16 | Wobin | are you feeling oppressed, Shirik? =P |
| 09:09.22 | Shirik | yes |
| 09:09.27 | Wobin | You should stand up for your human rights |
| 09:09.43 | Wobin | and say, to the media "He's WRONG, Many people DO NOT like the idea of being genderless" |
| 09:09.53 | Shirik | ok |
| 09:09.53 | Wobin | and show the world just how -right- you are |
| 09:09.54 | Shirik | I will |
| 09:10.10 | Wobin | make sure you do a comprehensive survey though |
| 09:10.17 | Shirik | I will |
| 09:10.22 | Shirik | I will survey 100 people |
| 09:10.26 | Wobin | hahaha |
| 09:10.26 | Shirik | and then assume it applies to the entire world |
| 09:10.35 | Shirik | that seems to be pretty much on-par with news agencies |
| 09:10.37 | Shirik | should fit right in |
| 09:10.49 | Wobin | you honestly think they survey -that- many people? |
| 09:10.55 | Shirik | lol |
| 09:10.56 | Arrowmaster | Ackis: what are you playing? |
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| 09:16.29 | Wobin | Shirik, also, if he'd said "I think many people" he'd be accused of putting words in people's mouths. His phrasing was generic enough to be an observation of fact, not one needing backup of concrete statistics. |
| 09:17.25 | Wobin | And if you feel threatened by that phrasing... well, there are possibly other problems you need to look into =) |
| 09:18.02 | Wobin | cause most people who -don't- feel that they feel genderless would mentally group themselves in the 'not in that group of many' |
| 09:18.31 | Wobin | it's like saying "May irishpeople don't like how St Patrick's Day is commercialised" |
| 09:18.48 | Wobin | From my general interaction with people from Ireland, that's a perfectly true statement |
| 09:18.55 | Wobin | I didn't need to run a survey to get that result |
| 09:19.07 | Wobin | (s/May/Many/) |
| 09:19.44 | Wobin | Many is just an indication of 'More than a few'. It's not a concrete number, or even a majoritywise of a population |
| 09:20.11 | Wobin | if he'd said "Most people like the idea of being genderless", I might have issue with that |
| 09:20.12 | mikma | ahhahahha, http://www.news10.net/video/default.aspx?bctid=72171830001 |
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| 09:26.28 | mikma | cairenn: http://www.geekologie.com/2010/03/id_feel_much_safer_if_catman_w.php |
| 09:26.37 | Cairenn | lol |
| 09:31.49 | eXemplar | any seasoned devs bored enough to critique my code? :P http://wowuidev.pastey.net/134368 |
| 09:32.02 | mikma | http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2010/03/predators_trailer_these_aliens.php <- i think that dude is feeling pretty much owned right there |
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| 09:49.50 | DWSR | Why did Blizzard change pets while mounted? |
| 09:52.29 | Arrowmaster | 'i discovered yesterday that if you provide the MailAddress class with an email address such as "example@[1.2.3.4]" it removes the square brackets' talking about .NET |
| 09:52.32 | Arrowmaster | epic fail |
| 09:54.02 | Arrowmaster | makes me wonder if MS is even aware of being able to send emails to an ip instead of a domain, think exchange can handle it? |
| 10:02.36 | DWSR | Hey, does anyone have a CHM of WoW Programming's Reference section? |
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| 10:03.47 | DWSR | jnwhiteh |
| 10:09.55 | Wobin | hah! |
| 10:10.05 | Wobin | Iron Chef's feature ingredient was "Live Octopus" |
| 10:10.16 | Wobin | but none of the dishes have live octopus in them! |
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| 10:13.40 | harl | wuff |
| 10:14.20 | Wobin | the "guest female actress" is always amusing |
| 10:17.08 | Wobin | "Finally an Iron Chef breaks through the octopus wall!" |
| 10:27.00 | jnwhiteh | DWSR: yes? |
| 10:27.34 | DWSR | You mind if I download the contents of wowprogramming's reference section onto my harddrive? |
| 10:29.58 | Taroven | Actually, I'm on there enough that I should be asking the exact same thing... |
| 10:30.24 | DWSR | I'm going to be offline for a while today, wanted to do some programming, but yeah. |
| 10:30.25 | DWSR | :) |
| 10:30.38 | DWSR | I'm thinking I might make a CHM version of it, if it's alright with you |
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| 10:31.26 | Taroven | Ooo. CHM wowprogramming. |
| 10:31.29 | Taroven | Shmexy. |
| 10:31.59 | Taroven | I wonder if there's a CHM reader out there that doesn't blow donkey nuts. I can't stand the MS version for some reason. |
| 10:33.00 | DWSR | Can someone explain to me how a druid tank fails at aoe threat. |
| 10:33.16 | Taroven | Swipe isn't all that powerful. |
| 10:33.23 | Taroven | Well, at first. |
| 10:33.33 | Taroven | If dps go in nuts-first, they're gonna die. |
| 10:33.47 | Taroven | Give it a couple seconds... and no idea. |
| 10:33.58 | DWSR | I'm getting aggro via Pestilence. |
| 10:34.00 | Adys | http://gnochm.sourceforge.net/pychm.html |
| 10:34.01 | Adys | hm |
| 10:34.02 | DWSR | Just to give you an idea. |
| 10:34.04 | Adys | looks old |
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| 10:34.15 | DWSR | whoops. |
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| 10:34.19 | Taroven | Hm. |
| 10:34.49 | Adys | i could update it probably |
| 10:34.57 | Taroven | Does look interesting. |
| 10:35.19 | Thrae | Taroven: Despite some of the cookie-cutter builds not taking it for tanking, I find King of the Jungle helps pre-raid and pre-T10 (2 set bonus) for maintaining AoE Threat. Start off with an Enrage, +15% Damage along with the Rage needed to do a Swipe. |
| 10:35.42 | Taroven | I wouldn't go without KotJ as a beartank. |
| 10:35.52 | Taroven | No matter what, you WILL be a kitty every so often. |
| 10:36.32 | Thrae | Yeah it does help Kitty especially, but I'm saying it helps Bear more than people think. As for Raids, especially if you're OT, you'll go Kitty every now and then anyway. |
| 10:36.42 | Taroven | Of course. |
| 10:36.44 | Thrae | So it's good for most Raids too. |
| 10:36.52 | olafski | I'm only a cat if I have to run somewhere |
| 10:36.55 | Taroven | Just sayin'. It's one of those essential talents in my book. |
| 10:37.30 | Thrae | Especially in 10-man there are one-tank fights and there are even no-tank fights (ToGC) |
| 10:37.39 | Taroven | Yep. |
| 10:38.02 | Taroven | Dreamwalker's kinda a 1-tank fight depending on how you swing it. |
| 10:38.28 | Taroven | Could easily get away with swapping back and forth in tank gear. |
| 10:38.46 | Taroven | But back to the original discussion, absolutely yes KotJ helps aoe initial threat. |
| 10:39.21 | Taroven | Sadly, a lot of bear tanks I've seen never touch the button even when specced unless they just tapped berserk. |
| 10:40.31 | Thrae | It also helps with doing 3/5 Furor, as the 60% cost reduction seriously helps when powershifting and just not getting lucky. |
| 10:40.47 | Thrae | So it's good synergy if you're taking those two points out of Furor. |
| 10:41.01 | Taroven | As for HOW the bears can suck at aoe threat... swipe ain't all that snazzy until you get 2-3 going... at that point it's better than thunderclap but worse than bloodboilspam+dnd. |
| 10:41.54 | Taroven | Trick's all in the initial threat. =P |
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| 10:42.25 | Thrae | It depends. If you look at the ICC fights, especially Pit of Saron, Swipe can really work wonders. Of course you need a little more strategy then throwing out a D&D + BB in front of you. |
| 10:43.08 | amro | I go with pest |
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| 10:43.15 | Thrae | In the Pit of Saron Gauntlet, Swipe and Consencrate rules. Thunderclap not as much as I believe it stops the Warrior in place while doing the animation? |
| 10:43.37 | Taroven | Naw. |
| 10:43.38 | DWSR | Fucking fail tanks. |
| 10:43.42 | Taroven | Thunderclap is amazing there. |
| 10:43.55 | Thrae | Oh right, speed reduction |
| 10:44.05 | Taroven | I'm an engy warrior, so I get to have fun with bombs in there. |
| 10:44.15 | DWSR | Jesus christ. |
| 10:44.19 | DWSR | I had a fail druid tank in PoS |
| 10:44.30 | DWSR | So I threw on my tanking set and told the healer to heal me and just chain pulled the rest of the instance. |
| 10:44.44 | DWSR | The other tank was *attempting* to taunt mobs off of me. |
| 10:44.51 | Taroven | Hehe. |
| 10:44.53 | Taroven | I've done that. |
| 10:44.55 | Taroven | Many times... |
| 10:45.06 | DWSR | Now that I have a tank set, I'm not at all bashful about telling a tank that they're fucking fail. |
| 10:45.10 | DWSR | Like, supermassive fail. |
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| 10:45.29 | olafski | sounds like a person I'd put on ignore and try to kick from the group :) |
| 10:45.35 | harl | exactly |
| 10:45.43 | DWSR | olafski: Him or me? |
| 10:45.45 | olafski | you |
| 10:45.46 | harl | you |
| 10:45.50 | DWSR | heh |
| 10:45.59 | DWSR | olafski: As long as you don't have supermassive fail, I don't have a problem. |
| 10:46.02 | olafski | it's not like this game is so hard that I have to play with arrogant people |
| 10:46.09 | Taroven | Eh, I've never minded a dps saying "Hey, you suck, let me tank" when I've healed. |
| 10:46.24 | DWSR | That PoS literally took me an hour |
| 10:46.44 | Thrae | When I run as a Healer and get a Feral Tank, they are either amazing or terribly bad. The extremes may be partly to due with how Feral Tanking forces you to use a different part of your brain than rotation and reactionary strategy. |
| 10:46.44 | Wobin | http://www.somethingpositive.net/sp03202010.shtml |
| 10:46.48 | Wobin | my -childhood-! |
| 10:46.51 | olafski | at best I'd _ask_ if they mind that I tank instead |
| 10:47.01 | Wobin | Thrae, it does? |
| 10:47.08 | olafski | it requires a brain? |
| 10:47.11 | DWSR | rofl Wobin |
| 10:47.11 | Wobin | swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe swipe |
| 10:47.14 | Wobin | (growl) |
| 10:47.16 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 10:47.17 | Wobin | swipe swipeswipe swipeswipe swipeswipe swipeswipe swipeswipe swipe |
| 10:47.25 | DWSR | This is why I don't understand how the fuck you can be bad at feral tanking. |
| 10:47.44 | DWSR | Don't you just macro Maul into every key and spam swipe? |
| 10:47.46 | Taroven | When put that way. |
| 10:47.47 | Taroven | Yeah. |
| 10:47.51 | Wobin | The only way you can be bad at feral tanking is to have terrible gear |
| 10:47.53 | Taroven | Yep. |
| 10:47.53 | olafski | it pretty much requires you to turn off your brain completely |
| 10:47.55 | olafski | else it will die |
| 10:48.00 | Wobin | and not macroing maul into every keystroke |
| 10:48.16 | DWSR | Wobin: He was decently geared. Nothing awesome, but geared enough to be doing better than he was. |
| 10:48.19 | Taroven | DWSR, I literally had maul macroed into 6 keys when I was a beartank. |
| 10:48.30 | DWSR | Wobin: I was chain pulling that when I was in that gear. |
| 10:48.31 | harl | it's more like swipe swipe swi/maul/pe swipe swipe mau/swipe/l swipe swipe swipemaul, anyway |
| 10:48.31 | Taroven | That was every key used as a bear. |
| 10:48.33 | Wobin | DWSR, check out his damage ratio, I guess |
| 10:48.36 | Thrae | DWSR: Some people don't use the Maul macros which seriously help, and especially, Feral Tanks are the worst Tanks at dealing with ranged enemies that have room to exit our Swipe area |
| 10:48.50 | Wobin | harl, true, I had it assumpted due to being macro'd in =) |
| 10:48.57 | DWSR | olafski: While I can understand that what I did was a pretty dick move, no heroic should take you a fucking *hour*. |
| 10:48.58 | harl | ok |
| 10:49.37 | olafski | I used to spam maul manually |
| 10:49.38 | olafski | not too bad |
| 10:49.52 | olafski | was used to warrior in vanilla.. though I guess I could've macro'd heroic strike back then too |
| 10:50.01 | DWSR | olafski: That and a lot more. :P |
| 10:50.04 | Thrae | Lots of instances have pulls with more than two ranged enemies, and when that happens, the Feral Tank needs to try and move its Swipe AoE to include both to keep threat. Otherwise they need to tab-target spam Growl (2-set T9 helps) and occasionally FFF |
| 10:50.14 | Wobin | true |
| 10:50.18 | Wobin | PoS is a good example |
| 10:50.21 | DWSR | Wobin: 63.4% Maul, 17.7% Mangle, 13.9% swipe. |
| 10:50.22 | Taroven | Y'know, when WoW says you have 6 seconds remaining on hearthstone, and you're spam rightclicking it, it really SHOULD just be like "OKAY OKAY IT'S BEEN HALF AN HOUR" and cast the damn hearth... |
| 10:50.34 | Wobin | DWSR, that's a lot of single target dps |
| 10:50.57 | Wobin | Thrae, for those pulls I just keep targetted on the caster for growl |
| 10:51.04 | Wobin | and swipe hits everyone around you anyway |
| 10:51.13 | Thrae | Wobin: Yep, Swipe seriously stands out in Gauntlet as Good, but the four pulls after Ick and before Gauntlet are hard without any CC and a little lack of focus from DPS |
| 10:51.31 | DWSR | Meh, his TPS was gawdawful. |
| 10:51.38 | Wobin | I always try to ask for CC if it's available |
| 10:51.40 | DWSR | Healer kept dying from him not picking stuff up. |
| 10:51.44 | olafski | I feel bad.. never even considered using CC at those 4 pulls |
| 10:51.44 | Thrae | There is actually a good chance you will have CC available for those pulls, but DPS tend to forget they have it |
| 10:51.46 | Wobin | then shift everything to the side to avoid aoe damage |
| 10:51.52 | nevcairiel | they are fine when you can somehow silence the casters and don't have to run to them all the time |
| 10:51.58 | olafski | even though I only do that dungeon with my priest gf |
| 10:52.04 | Wobin | oh god, I -wish- beartanks had better caster control |
| 10:52.06 | DWSR | nevcairiel: DnD, HB, problem solved. |
| 10:52.17 | nevcairiel | how does that help? |
| 10:52.23 | DWSR | It hits them all. |
| 10:52.29 | nevcairiel | also as a DK you can just pull them to you |
| 10:52.33 | nevcairiel | or silence them |
| 10:52.33 | Taroven | Wobin: No kidding... FFF spam on a ranged mob and the occasional bash... NEEDS MOAR BUTTONS. |
| 10:52.38 | DWSR | Don't find that neccessary in there. |
| 10:52.38 | nevcairiel | its not like you dont have utility |
| 10:53.05 | harl | what i hate the most with all the tanks is that they seem to be ignorant people. if any, they're the ones left that didn't even say hi to a new party in the first place. |
| 10:53.09 | DWSR | Just cycle AMS, IBF in the opening stages of that pull and watch the DPS AoE everything down. |
| 10:53.22 | nevcairiel | as a warrior i usually just charge the first caster, the one on the outer edge i silence with heroic throw, and the middle one gets a shield bash |
| 10:53.33 | harl | and some of them even leave a party in the midst of a fight or they make stupid bastard comments every few meter. |
| 10:53.43 | Taroven | I'm the tank that doesn't give people time to tank after greetings, buffs, and pre-chainpull warning are done. |
| 10:53.46 | DWSR | harl: 1) That's not a large majority of tanks. |
| 10:53.54 | harl | DWSR: oh yes it is. |
| 10:53.57 | Taroven | s/to tank/to talk/ |
| 10:54.05 | DWSR | harl: Your BGr must suck. |
| 10:54.13 | DWSR | Mine is just that the tanks suck. |
| 10:54.33 | Wobin | PS, I'm loving disc healing |
| 10:54.56 | nevcairiel | in easier 5mans having a disc healer is annoying |
| 10:54.56 | harl | DWSR: german battle groups all suck. been there, seen all i needed to. |
| 10:54.57 | Taroven | Wobin, I love disc for 5mans, but can't stand it for raiding =\ |
| 10:55.02 | nevcairiel | all those shields rage-starve me even more :P |
| 10:55.08 | Wobin | loltroll =P |
| 10:55.18 | DWSR | nevcairiel: Why? It's easy. |
| 10:55.21 | Thrae | All Mages - Counterspell, ? Mage Spec - Improved Counterspell, All Priests - Shackle Undead, Shadow Priests - Silence, Ret. Pallies - Repent., All DKs - Death Grip (need to taunt off), All Hunters - Cold Trap, All Rogues - Stunlock/Blind (esp. Sub.), All Druids - Cyclone, Feral Druids - Maim, etc. |
| 10:55.36 | Wobin | maim is a terrible example |
| 10:55.38 | DWSR | Thrae: DKs also have Mind Freeze and Strangulate. |
| 10:55.40 | Wobin | since it uses combo points |
| 10:56.02 | nevcairiel | people actually use maim? |
| 10:56.13 | Wobin | I've pulled it out in emergency casts |
| 10:56.14 | harl | of course |
| 10:56.16 | Taroven | Also, Death Grip does not bump threat, so no taunt required unless it's something REALLY painful. |
| 10:56.16 | Thrae | DWSR: Yes, and Frost DKs have Frozen...something |
| 10:56.22 | Wobin | Frozen Mind |
| 10:56.26 | DWSR | Taroven: It's a taunt. |
| 10:56.30 | DWSR | Thrae: Mind Freeze. |
| 10:56.32 | Wobin | oh yeah Mind Freeze |
| 10:56.43 | DWSR | That's the English translation anyway. |
| 10:56.53 | olafski | death grip doesn't taunt, it just forces the target to attack you for a few seconds |
| 10:56.54 | Thrae | Is that it? It's the Frost talent that freezes the enemy in place. |
| 10:57.00 | DWSR | olafski: That's a taunt. :P |
| 10:57.01 | olafski | after that you get the threat back |
| 10:57.06 | DWSR | Thrae: No, that's Chains of Ice. |
| 10:57.06 | olafski | no, taunt keeps you at the top |
| 10:57.10 | Wobin | well, it's a taunt, but it's not a ... what's it called when it boosts your aggro to the max? |
| 10:57.21 | nevcairiel | thats a taunt |
| 10:57.28 | Wobin | then DG is not a taunt |
| 10:57.30 | DWSR | Thrae: Chains doesn't stun though |
| 10:57.33 | Thrae | Taroven: It's a snap-to taunt, yep |
| 10:57.34 | DWSR | Thrae: So casters can still cast it. |
| 10:57.36 | Taroven | DWSR: Coulda sworn it acts like Challenging Shout, where it taunts for 3 seconds and then releases back to whatever. |
| 10:57.37 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, DG isn't a taunt |
| 10:57.47 | DWSR | Taroven: Might be. |
| 10:57.47 | Wobin | Taroven, yes |
| 10:57.54 | DWSR | I don't usually have a problem topping threat at that point. |
| 10:57.54 | Wobin | well, it doesn't boost aggro in any way |
| 10:57.57 | nevcairiel | DG works like challenging shout or whatever the druid version of it is called |
| 10:57.58 | ZorbaTHut | there are exactly four taunts in the game, one for each tanking class |
| 10:58.10 | Wobin | challenging shout is just an aoe taunt, isn't it? |
| 10:58.10 | Taroven | And Zorba wins da cookie. |
| 10:58.17 | olafski | I thought it was wobin :P |
| 10:58.18 | Taroven | Wobin: It doesn't do anything to threat. |
| 10:58.20 | Thrae | ZorbaTHut: http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=49576 <-- "...and forcing the enemy to attack the Death Knight for 3 seconds." |
| 10:58.29 | nevcairiel | Wobin: it just forces the enemy onto you, but doesnt give you threat |
| 10:58.31 | nevcairiel | like death grip |
| 10:58.31 | Wobin | ah |
| 10:58.38 | Wobin | it's such a terrible cooldown, I never use it |
| 10:58.44 | ZorbaTHut | thrae, sure, that's not what a "taunt" is. the definition of a full taunt is that it pops your aggro up to that of the top player |
| 10:58.47 | ZorbaTHut | death grip doesn't do that |
| 10:58.50 | nevcairiel | i hit it once in a blue moon in emergencys |
| 10:58.53 | Wobin | we need more terminology =P |
| 10:59.12 | Wobin | "Taunt" and "Distract"? |
| 10:59.21 | olafski | given that there's only one ability called 'Taunt', I'd say it is pretty clear what a taunt is :P |
| 10:59.24 | nevcairiel | distract is already taken by rogues |
| 10:59.32 | Wobin | Distracting Shot however... |
| 10:59.37 | Thrae | ZorbaTHut: Yeah, it's a snap-to taunt, but whatever you want to call it |
| 10:59.45 | Thrae | Focus Taunt? Focus Non-Taunt? |
| 10:59.55 | Wobin | I like snap taunt |
| 10:59.56 | Wobin | and taunt |
| 10:59.57 | ZorbaTHut | forced attack, I'd say |
| 11:00.14 | Wobin | Taunt, and YoMomma |
| 11:00.22 | Taroven | =P |
| 11:00.31 | harl | i'll go with the yomomma |
| 11:00.48 | Thrae | Either way, raise your hand if you meet at least one DK that pops Army of the Dead early on in Boss fights in Randoms...especially if they're not the tank |
| 11:00.49 | Taroven | But... which is the yomama? |
| 11:00.58 | nevcairiel | taunt is taunt |
| 11:00.59 | nevcairiel | clearly |
| 11:01.01 | Wobin | raises his hand |
| 11:01.09 | Taroven | raises his hand. |
| 11:01.12 | nevcairiel | raises hand |
| 11:01.12 | ZorbaTHut | dammit mal'ganis is another eastcoast server |
| 11:01.15 | Thrae | I meet one like, per day |
| 11:01.17 | Wobin | Raise your other hand if they popped AotD on a dragon boss |
| 11:01.17 | olafski | raises hand (I'm the one who does it) |
| 11:01.19 | nevcairiel | its mighty annoying |
| 11:01.23 | harl | raises a hand too |
| 11:01.24 | Taroven | raises his hand. |
| 11:01.39 | Taroven | s/hand/hand again../ |
| 11:01.45 | Taroven | Aww, doesn't work on emotes. |
| 11:01.52 | nevcairiel | especially because those things taunt in 5mans, in raids they dont taunt anymore, do they? |
| 11:01.55 | Thrae | Now I tell 'em ~20% or 10% it's usually safe just in Dungeons, but I've got DKs laughing at me |
| 11:02.03 | olafski | yes nev |
| 11:02.03 | ZorbaTHut | it's not like there are any aotd-tauntable dragon bosses that are actually a threat anymore |
| 11:02.16 | Thrae | nevcairiel: Why would the mechanic be different in raids? |
| 11:02.20 | Wobin | ZorbaTHut, tell that to everyone hugging Cygnosia =) |
| 11:02.20 | harl | naw, not on dragon bosses |
| 11:02.21 | nevcairiel | i dunno, it is |
| 11:02.35 | ZorbaTHut | wobin, I'm counting cyanigosa as "not a threat" ;) |
| 11:02.40 | nevcairiel | people complained, and they changed them to not taunt raid bosses, iirc |
| 11:03.03 | Wobin | ZorbaTHut, you may as well re-edit to say "it's not like there are any bosses that are actually a threat anymore" |
| 11:03.04 | nevcairiel | or made raid bosses immun to their taunts :P |
| 11:03.06 | Taroven | They were trivializing certain fights. |
| 11:03.14 | Thrae | nevcairiel: Odd, the tooltip doesn't mention that, it clearly says they taunt "anything they can" |
| 11:03.24 | ZorbaTHut | wobin, raid bosses are a threat :P |
| 11:03.35 | ZorbaTHut | thrae, and they can't taunt raid bosses |
| 11:03.36 | ZorbaTHut | :D |
| 11:03.42 | Taroven | ie, Instructor, tank mobs go down, have 4 dks? No problem, just spam army. |
| 11:03.54 | Arathros | om |
| 11:03.56 | Arathros | g |
| 11:04.05 | Arathros | reading something from 8am this morning in here |
| 11:04.10 | Arathros | was a fucking dejavu |
| 11:04.31 | harl | it's called "the past". |
| 11:04.46 | Arathros | naa saw that a few weeks ago |
| 11:04.53 | Thrae | ZorbaTHut: That's a silly distinction, although the tooltip is long enough I don't think they could add that in |
| 11:05.13 | Wobin | roflroflrofl |
| 11:05.21 | Wobin | worldoflordcraft is so great |
| 11:05.33 | Arathros | and now the same freaking sentences again.. wow thats scary |
| 11:05.39 | nevcairiel | link Wobin |
| 11:05.43 | ZorbaTHut | thrae, in fairness, it's not even close to the only ability that has weird undocumented exceptions |
| 11:05.49 | Wobin | "Build an unprecedented epic castle!" |
| 11:05.55 | Thrae | Also there are raid fights where AoD will still taunt, like the PvP fight in ToGC, but that's a special fight anyway where taunt is just a quick snap-to. |
| 11:05.56 | Wobin | http://www.worldoflordcraft.com/ |
| 11:06.01 | Thrae | ZorbaTHut: True |
| 11:06.37 | ZorbaTHut | thrae, technically, taunt still works exactly as it used to |
| 11:06.47 | Wobin | it's such terrible chinglish |
| 11:06.49 | ZorbaTHut | it's just that all the monsters wipe their threat tables every five to ten seconds seconds or so |
| 11:06.58 | ZorbaTHut | seconds seconds i am smrt |
| 11:07.06 | Thrae | ZorbaTHut: Yeah, but that's a raid battle ;) |
| 11:07.28 | olafski | never surrender you freedom wobin |
| 11:07.29 | Taroven | Think we timed faction champs at 3 seconds once. |
| 11:07.31 | Thrae | An exception to the exception |
| 11:07.42 | Taroven | (no taunts, just watching threat) |
| 11:07.54 | Taroven | Coulda been 5, it's been a loooong time. |
| 11:08.03 | Thrae | Taroven: For a second there in my sleepiness I thought you killed them in 3 seconds or 3 minutes or something. |
| 11:08.13 | Taroven | lawl, I wish. |
| 11:08.21 | Thrae | Certain Faction Champs make-ups eat up my guild outings. |
| 11:08.21 | Taroven | Bugged TBC fury warrior, anyone? |
| 11:08.51 | Taroven | Thrae: Resto druid issues, or something different? |
| 11:09.06 | Wobin | god, that resto druid |
| 11:09.08 | Wobin | =( |
| 11:09.09 | ZorbaTHut | I kinda miss that fight, it was fun locking down one target completely |
| 11:09.22 | Wobin | I spent the -entire- fight purgespamming his hots |
| 11:09.26 | Wobin | and he still didn't die =P |
| 11:09.54 | Taroven | Wobin: Trivial with either a priest spamming mass dispel like a bad chainletter, or a shaman spamming purge like the same. |
| 11:10.03 | olafski | does blizzard not bother to sue these world of lordcraft guys? or can't they |
| 11:10.07 | Thrae | Taroven: There's multiple dangers with a group of guildies not pre-selected just for that fight |
| 11:10.42 | Thrae | And we're not big on having deep raiding experience or serious gear (better than iLevel 200 blues usually) |
| 11:10.45 | Taroven | olafski: From what little I actually looked... blizz might eventually. |
| 11:11.03 | Taroven | Yeah, gear would kill ya there. |
| 11:11.07 | Wobin | Taroven, I was that shaman =P |
| 11:11.07 | Thrae | Or requiring everyone have the 2-minute trinket, for another |
| 11:11.17 | Taroven | Wobin: I was that priest. =P |
| 11:11.33 | Wobin | that was, of course, our first look at FC |
| 11:12.05 | Thrae | If it's not the Resto Druid we have trouble downing its the Resto Shaman along with all their own CCs |
| 11:12.26 | olafski | taroven: well, they copied "quite a bit" of stuff :) |
| 11:12.34 | Taroven | Problem with 2min trinkets there is that while they're handy for the clutch heal/CC/taunt... you're just gonna get cc'd again a second later. |
| 11:13.07 | Thrae | Lots of Fear, Cyclone, Sheep, etc. and always with that damn Felhunter |
| 11:13.15 | Taroven | I swear, if I had a quarter for every time I've had one of the champs bitchslap me or re-sheep me after trinketing, I'd... be a couple bucks richer at least. |
| 11:13.39 | Wobin | You'd also be a sheep |
| 11:13.45 | Thrae | Taroven: It depends, it's a PvP fight so DR is in effect for both sides |
| 11:13.47 | Taroven | That too. |
| 11:14.19 | Taroven | Thrae: Of course, but being unable to do anything is still being unable to do anything. =P |
| 11:15.00 | Thrae | Yeah, but unlike real PvP, the Champs don't necessarily do the smartest things when the perfect ally is CC'd |
| 11:15.34 | Thrae | They're a bit random but there's a method to their madness |
| 11:15.52 | DWSR | yep |
| 11:16.03 | Taroven | Definitely. |
| 11:16.12 | DWSR | If you have a UA lock, you can stop them from dispelling and also keep the tree/Felhunter locked down |
| 11:16.23 | DWSR | And I mean both at the same time, not one of the other. |
| 11:17.34 | Thrae | Speaking of PvP, I still need to get more and more Resil as I don't like dying so easily. Against PvE geared people I normally can hold my own as a Resto Druid, but PvP geared/spec'd people eat me for breakfast. And it's not just their own Resil. |
| 11:19.09 | Thrae | It's silly and demoralizing that to get the gear you need to actually PvP like you're meant to, you need to basically sacrifice yourself to those that have come before you. |
| 11:19.32 | Taroven | Yeah. |
| 11:19.40 | olafski | buy gear with badges :P |
| 11:19.54 | ZorbaTHut | I suspect they're trying to improve that with the BG honor boosts |
| 11:20.33 | ZorbaTHut | personally I think they should just increase arena point payout, and item cost, by 50% or so every season |
| 11:20.40 | ZorbaTHut | (new item cost, I mean) |
| 11:21.30 | Taroven | New arena gloves: Only 10k arena points. |
| 11:21.46 | olafski | sure but you'd also get 1000 points per match :P |
| 11:22.02 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, the point is mostly to help you grab old gear faster. honestly 50% might be too little |
| 11:22.02 | Thrae | olafski: True, but that's a looot of Badges too, more than the cost of T9 |
| 11:22.07 | Wobin | http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gdc-10-magicka/63249 |
| 11:22.08 | ZorbaTHut | 100% might be more reasonable |
| 11:22.30 | Wobin | that's an interesting game mechanic |
| 11:22.40 | Wobin | although the actual setup for the spellcasting seems a bit awkward |
| 11:22.57 | Thrae | Speaking of interesting games, I am glad I bought Dragon Age, and I am also sad |
| 11:23.01 | Taroven | Speaking of a lot of badges, time to blow a bunch for a BoA trinket I'll regret buying later. |
| 11:23.08 | ZorbaTHut | eventually you might want to rebalance it once you're getting seven hundred billion arena points per match but |
| 11:23.10 | Thrae | Steam had a sale a few days ago |
| 11:25.27 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Why do that when you can just decrease the cost of the previous season of gear? |
| 11:25.29 | Thrae | Hmmm does this macro work |
| 11:25.33 | Taroven | Eh, I tried (read: pirated) DAO... didn't really enjoy it too much, but perhaps didn't spend enough time on it. |
| 11:26.33 | Thrae | Taroven: I enjoy things more if I don't pirate them, but that's me trying to justify the purchase. There are games that I have pirated that I didn't enjoy and never plan on buying, but most I pirated I eventually bought. |
| 11:26.34 | harl | not a dragon much, eh? |
| 11:26.59 | Arrowmaster | ZorbaTHut: yeah increase the arena payouts so that teams can bitch and whine even more when they get so high that when they win they still go down in ranking |
| 11:27.14 | Taroven | Thrae: I pirate when a game doesn't have a trial. If I enjoy it and the DRM isn't atrocious, I'll buy it by all means. |
| 11:27.33 | Thrae | Taroven: I also happen to be an Oblivion fan (with mods of course) and that may say something. |
| 11:27.43 | Arrowmaster | oblivion sucked |
| 11:27.57 | Taroven | I loves me some modded oblivion, if only for the eye candy. =P |
| 11:28.12 | Taroven | Very pretty game when you get everything modded to hell and back. |
| 11:28.13 | Thrae | As you can see, some people are of that mindset. Personally I didn't like Morrowind (with or without mods), but I did like Oblivion with a specific set of mods. |
| 11:28.22 | Arrowmaster | all TES games after Morrowind will suck |
| 11:28.46 | Wobin | this ^ |
| 11:28.51 | Taroven | =P |
| 11:28.54 | Thrae | Oblivion XP was one of the coolest mods because I didn't like the "you can level everything at whatever pace you like" experience system. |
| 11:29.25 | ZorbaTHut | arrow, I don't see what your point is, the arena payouts would only be "increasing" for people who are buying obsolete gear with it |
| 11:29.30 | Arrowmaster | they destoryed skill training in oblivion |
| 11:29.35 | ZorbaTHut | (or, alternatively, you could just halve gear cost every new season, I suppose) |
| 11:29.36 | Taroven | I didn't like Oblivion's exp system at all, ever, for any good reason. |
| 11:29.47 | Thrae | But, again, I don't really find that as a problem with Oblivion, it's more a problem with me -- I'll spend (and have spent) hours just building up my character's various levels when I *should* have been really enjoying the game. Rather OCD. |
| 11:29.50 | Wobin | oblivion's xp system was terrible |
| 11:30.03 | Taroven | (Read: I hated Oblivion's exp system just to hate it - And I really do hate it) |
| 11:30.03 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: You should reduce gear cost. |
| 11:30.04 | ZorbaTHut | also I have never played a TES game I enjoyed. |
| 11:30.05 | Thrae | Well, it was mostly the same as Morrowind |
| 11:30.05 | Wobin | there was nothing to look forward to =P |
| 11:30.10 | Thrae | And most of Elder Scrolls |
| 11:30.14 | Arrowmaster | morrowinds wasnt great either but it was better than oblivion |
| 11:30.14 | ZorbaTHut | I'd say "bethesda game" but I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt for Fallout 3. |
| 11:30.17 | DWSR | If you increase arena payouts, you have to increase gear cost for the current season to compensate. |
| 11:30.26 | Wobin | I enjoyed Elder Scrolls |
| 11:30.30 | Wobin | it was really good for the time |
| 11:30.41 | Wobin | and Morrowwind |
| 11:30.47 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, well, yeah, that was the idea. avoid changing the old gear costs. |
| 11:30.53 | ZorbaTHut | this may be one of those bits where presentation is crucial |
| 11:30.56 | Thrae | ZorbaTHut: The original Dagerfall was fun when it came out, but there wasn't much pickins back then. |
| 11:30.58 | DWSR | mhm |
| 11:31.04 | Arrowmaster | but i cheesed my way though morrowinds leveling by making a custom class designed for perfect leveling and abusing skill trainers when i could |
| 11:31.05 | Thrae | ZorbaTHut: It's also fun on Mobile phones now. |
| 11:31.06 | Wobin | yeah Daggerfall was awesome |
| 11:31.06 | ZorbaTHut | like how Blizzard changed from "exhausted" to "rested" and turned a hated feature into a beloved feature |
| 11:31.12 | ZorbaTHut | despite the fact that it was the exact same feature |
| 11:31.14 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Though, you can get the previous season's gear just by using emblems and honor. |
| 11:31.19 | Wobin | ZorbaTHut, hehe it's all about the marketing? |
| 11:31.26 | ZorbaTHut | wobin, exactly :) |
| 11:31.32 | DWSR | tbh, people that QQ about PvP gear progression are just looking for free handouts. |
| 11:31.52 | Thrae | ZorbaTHut: I think "Rested" was also used in another MMORPG and they saw better reaction there too. |
| 11:32.02 | Wobin | You're not losing XP every time you die, you're increasing your "life experience" threshold! |
| 11:32.06 | Arrowmaster | Thrae: they have daggerfall for mobile phones? |
| 11:32.18 | ZorbaTHut | thrae, maybe, yeah |
| 11:32.31 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, that's not necessarily a bad thing. not everything needs to be an epic struggle to attain |
| 11:32.33 | Thrae | It's rather nostalgic, I remember the original WoW and its "Exhaustion" |
| 11:32.44 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: It's not hard to obtain it currently is my point. |
| 11:32.48 | ZorbaTHut | I mean, the old BC raid loot progression was awful. Wrath's is better, largely thanks to how relatively simple it is to gear up. |
| 11:32.56 | olafski | wobin: magicka looks boring :( |
| 11:32.59 | ZorbaTHut | no, but it is goddamn frustrating and slow. |
| 11:33.12 | Wobin | olafski, It looks very one trick ponyish |
| 11:33.14 | Wobin | Ponic? |
| 11:33.19 | olafski | yeah |
| 11:33.21 | Wobin | Ponalic? |
| 11:33.33 | olafski | it reminds me a bit of molyneux :P |
| 11:33.34 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: Yes. Bethesda specifically has a mobile phone division, now a division of Zenimax. They even have new TES games for "smart phones" (running on Java or BREW I believe) |
| 11:33.38 | olafski | "you can do anything!" |
| 11:33.39 | Wobin | olafski, hehe |
| 11:34.00 | Wobin | I did notice the fire + electricity -did- make FIRE LIGHTNING |
| 11:34.03 | Wobin | so that was kinda cool |
| 11:34.20 | Wobin | although I'd like to see if Water + Fire == Napalm |
| 11:34.26 | ZorbaTHut | oh god I just thought of something horrible |
| 11:34.34 | ZorbaTHut | people taking PvE gear and reforging it to include resilience |
| 11:34.48 | Wobin | ugh |
| 11:34.49 | ZorbaTHut | if this turns out to be possible, I can guarantee it is going to happen |
| 11:35.06 | Arrowmaster | Thrae: is this some of your insider info? i see no mention of this elsewhere |
| 11:35.09 | ZorbaTHut | you'll have a fury warrior showing up in his t12 epics, all carefully resilience-ized |
| 11:35.09 | Thrae | Question -- do you get a Feat of Strength or other Achievement if you best all the Champions at the Argent Tournament before the debuff runs out for each Champion? (IE, get all the debuffs at once) |
| 11:35.15 | ZorbaTHut | "but it maeks me take les damage! :D" |
| 11:35.23 | ZorbaTHut | thrae, unfortunately no |
| 11:35.23 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: No...one sec |
| 11:35.39 | ZorbaTHut | (but yeah you totally should) |
| 11:36.01 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Why? |
| 11:36.03 | DWSR | It's easy to do. |
| 11:36.09 | DWSR | Duels last 3 minutes if you're decent. |
| 11:36.18 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: http://vir2l.com/plat-wireless.php |
| 11:37.30 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: It's not like that company is a secret ;) |
| 11:37.39 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, because it's entertaining. and they could tune it to be tougher, of course. |
| 11:37.56 | ZorbaTHut | anyway it's not like most achievements are hard to get. |
| 11:37.59 | Arrowmaster | rofl i found a Daggerfall port with bloom |
| 11:38.15 | Thrae | The Bloom HDR effect? |
| 11:38.19 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 11:38.26 | Thrae | Interesting |
| 11:38.43 | Arrowmaster | "As of early March 2010, DaggerXL supports the rendering of any province and the starting dungeon, Privateer's Hold, with high resolution graphics (including smoothed terrain and Bloom) and basic gameplay. Additional gameplay features and bugfixes currently being coded for future releases of DaggerXL." |
| 11:39.54 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: There's a way to get bloom for wow, in case you haven't already heard. :P |
| 11:40.24 | DWSR | hey jnwhiteh |
| 11:40.28 | Arrowmaster | have you seen the abominations Antiarc has done to WoW's graphics renderer? |
| 11:40.39 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: Noope. |
| 11:40.44 | Taroven | Nope. o_O |
| 11:41.19 | Arrowmaster | one of them was HDR i think |
| 11:41.48 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: linkey linkey |
| 11:42.21 | olafski | my warrior is wearing a "tank top" :D http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Turalyon&cn=Warriorski |
| 11:42.59 | DWSR | elle oh elle |
| 11:47.09 | Taroven | Bout time I put this headache to sleep... Mornin' all. |
| 11:47.35 | Wobin | olafski, ... that's almost 80's in design |
| 11:47.46 | Wobin | it's very... George Michaelish =P |
| 11:47.57 | olafski | sexy innit! |
| 11:48.16 | Wobin | with the 'bareback' =P |
| 11:48.36 | *** join/#wowuidev Kazie (~Kazie@port207.ds1-vg.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 11:48.38 | olafski | got 7 items waiting to be equipped =( |
| 11:48.52 | olafski | shield at 39, 6 plate at 40 |
| 11:51.33 | Arrowmaster | DWSR: bastard has too many damn screenshots, cant find them |
| 11:51.56 | Thrae | Darn, /cancelform [noform:Flight], etc. doesn't work |
| 11:52.42 | Thrae | I'll just do /cancelform [noflyable] |
| 11:54.47 | olafski | isn't there a way to check which form you're in? |
| 11:55.02 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, there is |
| 11:55.06 | olafski | might be stance instead of form though |
| 11:55.09 | ZorbaTHut | though it's a little finicky |
| 11:55.18 | ZorbaTHut | I think it's stance, and you need a numeric ID which can change if you gain or lose stances |
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| 11:56.40 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: What Rawr version are you using? |
| 11:56.49 | ZorbaTHut | some old version, why? |
| 11:56.55 | ZorbaTHut | I haven't been playing and so haven't updated in a bit |
| 11:56.57 | DWSR | [stance:#] |
| 11:57.13 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Becaues the newest version is givine me errors about saving XML documents. |
| 11:57.20 | ZorbaTHut | cute |
| 11:57.21 | DWSR | wanted to know if the problem is me or something else. |
| 11:57.22 | DWSR | yeah |
| 11:57.40 | DWSR | Thrae: It's [stance:#] for druid forms. |
| 11:57.43 | DWSR | I believe flight's 4 |
| 11:57.45 | DWSR | lemme check. |
| 11:58.06 | DWSR | Nope, flight's 6. |
| 11:58.11 | DWSR | Travel's 4. |
| 11:58.23 | DWSR | /cancelform [stance:4] |
| 11:58.33 | DWSR | err. |
| 11:58.35 | DWSR | s/4/6/; |
| 12:05.45 | Thrae | DWSR: No, [form:#] works too, as well as [noform]. I was trying to make a macro that wouldn't cancel Swift Flight Form. |
| 12:05.57 | DWSR | Thrae: form is a synonym to stance. |
| 12:06.03 | DWSR | You need to use numbers, though |
| 12:06.42 | ZorbaTHut | from now on all my warrior macros will use form and all my druid macros will use stance |
| 12:06.46 | Thrae | DWSR: Unfortunately, the form # for Swift Flight Form is different from Resto (6) to Feral (5), and this is a macro to switch specs |
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| 12:07.16 | DWSR | Thrae: So? |
| 12:07.42 | DWSR | btw, why are you making a macro to switch specs and checking if you're in flight form? |
| 12:07.50 | DWSR | Do you have the "cast spells in flight" option on? |
| 12:08.01 | DWSR | Because you can turn that off and it will give you an error unless you're standing on the ground about casting spells. |
| 12:08.10 | Arrowmaster | Thrae: [noflying] |
| 12:08.17 | DWSR | You could also use that |
| 12:08.34 | Arrowmaster | [noflying][flying,mounted] |
| 12:08.52 | Thrae | DWSR: Ah wait, now I know how I can do it. /cancelform [spec:1,noform:5] /cancelform [spec:2,noform:6] |
| 12:08.57 | DWSR | yep. |
| 12:09.04 | Thrae | DWSR: Yeah I want to switch specs in mid-air. |
| 12:09.12 | DWSR | Thrae: Can you do that? |
| 12:09.24 | Thrae | DWSR: Yep, only Druids |
| 12:09.32 | DWSR | That's fucking fail. |
| 12:09.35 | Thrae | Well technically Mages if they Slowfall long enough |
| 12:09.56 | DWSR | Thrae: You need to be not moving in order to change specs. |
| 12:10.07 | Wobin | hm |
| 12:10.10 | Wobin | I've never tried it |
| 12:10.19 | Adys | I just noticed something |
| 12:10.31 | Adys | Roy wears a space invaders shirt in the it crowd intro. |
| 12:10.42 | Thrae | DWSR: Hmm, but I think it acts just like a castable spell, and I know Slowfall Mages can cast non-instants while falling |
| 12:11.08 | DWSR | thrae: they can't start the cast while falling. |
| 12:14.33 | olafski | you can combine those two /cancelforms |
| 12:14.36 | Wobin | aha |
| 12:14.38 | olafski | don't need to be two statements |
| 12:14.40 | Wobin | you can change specs in flight |
| 12:14.45 | Thrae | Arrowmaster: [flying] and [noflying] are for when you're actually flying or not flying? |
| 12:14.45 | Wobin | you don't even lose form |
| 12:15.02 | Wobin | (PS, no need for macros?) |
| 12:15.05 | Thrae | olafski: howso? |
| 12:15.22 | olafski | thrae: /cancelform [spec:1,noform:5] [spec:2,noform:6] should do the same |
| 12:16.02 | Thrae | Wobin: /p >>> Switching specs, please wait <<< /equipset etc. /usetalents etc. |
| 12:16.03 | DWSR | imo |
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| 12:17.04 | DWSR | /dismount [spec:1,noform:5][spec:2,noform:6] /usetalents [spec:2] 1; 2 |
| 12:17.06 | DWSR | I win |
| 12:17.08 | Thrae | olafski: Yep, seems to work. Odd use of OR syntax. |
| 12:17.38 | olafski | not too bad once you get used to it |
| 12:17.39 | DWSR | The "always change spec" button |
| 12:17.54 | Thrae | DWSR: Yeah, that's what my macro already did |
| 12:19.18 | DWSR | Would running a private server so that you can do offline addon testing offend anyone? |
| 12:20.09 | Wobin | yes |
| 12:20.26 | Thrae | Excellent, I condensed my logic |
| 12:22.27 | Thrae | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:25.15 | olafski | why do you need to cancel form? |
| 12:26.03 | olafski | also does that [form:1] stuff work? |
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| 12:26.34 | olafski | also you can replace the first part with /cancelform [noflying] :P |
| 12:26.36 | Corrodias | it doesn't work; it's just in there for show! ;) |
| 12:26.50 | Thrae | olafski: If I'm switching between Tanking and Healing I generally want to switch forms and yes, [form] works like [stance]. |
| 12:27.21 | olafski | hmkay |
| 12:27.29 | Thrae | olafski: Ah, I was retrofitting it. Good call. |
| 12:29.06 | olafski | I just change spec/form manually =( |
| 12:30.13 | olafski | man I love this "run back and forth between stromgarde and hammerfall" quest chain |
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| 12:31.23 | Thrae | The only problem I have with my travel macro right now is that "/use [button:1] [noflyable,nomounted] Swift Mistsaber" will always run even if it's a flyable area. |
| 12:31.51 | olafski | that'd be the OR syntax again I imagine? |
| 12:31.55 | Thrae | Ah, [button:1] is taking SHIFT |
| 12:32.11 | Thrae | And the keybind uses SHIFT. I thought [button:1] would be left-click. |
| 12:32.12 | olafski | button:1 probably doesn't care which modifier you're pressing |
| 12:32.31 | Thrae | What's left or right click? |
| 12:32.38 | olafski | button:1 and button:2 :P |
| 12:32.43 | olafski | .. I think |
| 12:33.18 | Thrae | If I take out [button:1] then my SHIFT+E keybinding will always try the Swift Mistsaber. |
| 12:33.22 | Thrae | errr |
| 12:33.28 | Thrae | If I don't take out [button:1] then my SHIFT+E keybinding will always try the Swift Mistsaber. |
| 12:34.08 | olafski | what else is in the macro? |
| 12:35.09 | Thrae | Aquatic Form, Swift Flight Form, Travel Form, etc. |
| 12:35.25 | olafski | and you call them by pressing..? |
| 12:35.28 | Thrae | But it only tries to mount once in that one mount command |
| 12:35.32 | Thrae | SHIFT+E |
| 12:35.52 | olafski | hm maybe it'd be better to explain what you want it to do ;) |
| 12:35.56 | Thrae | What I want to do is if I left-click on the actual button, it will always try to mount. |
| 12:36.17 | olafski | [nomod]? |
| 12:36.28 | Thrae | SHIFT+E is the keybinding |
| 12:37.03 | olafski | yes.. but you don't want it to mount if you press shift+E apparently |
| 12:37.37 | Thrae | No, I do, if it's a nonflyable area and I'm out of combat. |
| 12:37.53 | olafski | hum |
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| 12:38.32 | olafski | so if either you left click or it's non combat/flyable you want to mount, else "do something else" |
| 12:39.33 | olafski | /use [nomod] [noflyable,nomounted] Swift Mistsaber |
| 12:39.35 | olafski | seems like the way to go |
| 12:42.10 | Thrae | olafski: Hmm that works |
| 12:42.33 | olafski | oh you may want to add nocombat too |
| 12:43.36 | Thrae | olafski: Wouldn't I need to do that to both [nomod] and [noflyable,nomounted]? |
| 12:43.45 | olafski | yeah probably |
| 12:44.57 | Thrae | olafski: Hmm I thought it worked but it doesn't. It's still trying to mount me instead of use Swift Flight Form. |
| 12:45.51 | Thrae | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:46.36 | olafski | hmm |
| 12:46.51 | olafski | maybe because shift+e is the binding it doesn't recognise it as a mod :s |
| 12:47.05 | Thrae | Probably |
| 12:50.50 | Thrae | I thought use was synonymous with cast, but maybe it isn't, since http://www.wowwiki.com/MACRO_cast says [button:1] or [btn:1] should work. |
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| 13:02.39 | mikma | wobin: remind me again, do i need a product key for DDO? |
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| 13:07.41 | Adys | http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2010/03/sceptic-challenges-guru-kill-live-tv/ |
| 13:07.42 | Adys | hahah |
| 13:09.52 | adimit | Erhm... I'm reading oUF's code atm, and I'm having trouble (probably due to my limited knowledge of Lua) to understand the following line: local styleFunc = styles[style] or styles[style] |
| 13:10.19 | adimit | It's in walkObject; my best guess is that this will do the same on both sides of the 'or', won't it? |
| 13:11.03 | adimit | I.e. assign styleFunc with either nil or styles[style], but why is the 'or' needed, and why isn't it just 'local styleFunc = styles[style]'? |
| 13:12.09 | jnwhiteh | DWSR: why have you pinged me twicen ow |
| 13:12.11 | jnwhiteh | and said nothing more? |
| 13:12.15 | DWSR | adimit: Is that the whole line? |
| 13:12.21 | DWSR | jnwhiteh: I did in fact say something after the first time. |
| 13:12.31 | DWSR | jnwhiteh: Do you mind if I save a local copy of wowprogramming/docs ? |
| 13:12.37 | jnwhiteh | but I had to hunt to find it |
| 13:12.43 | jnwhiteh | as long as you're not reposting it, I suppose not. |
| 13:12.53 | jnwhiteh | technically your web browser already does =) |
| 13:13.00 | DWSR | Nah, it's just for local offline browsing. :P |
| 13:13.43 | adimit | DWSR yes. |
| 13:14.01 | DWSR | jnwhiteh: I was thinking of maybe writing a script to compile a CHM version of the documentation (again, purely for offline viewing). Thoughts? |
| 13:14.47 | DWSR | adimit: That is confusing to me as well. |
| 13:14.53 | DWSR | jnwhiteh: local styleFunc = styles[style] or styles[style] <-- wtf? |
| 13:15.13 | adimit | DWSR, ok, I might go bug haste about it then. I completely don't understand why it is there. |
| 13:15.16 | jnwhiteh | DWSR: I'd ratheryou didn't do that, no. |
| 13:15.26 | jnwhiteh | DWSR: wtf is that code and wy are you posting it to me? |
| 13:15.41 | jnwhiteh | Until I can get the licensing straightened out |
| 13:15.43 | adimit | jnwhiteh, it's part of oUF. |
| 13:15.48 | jnwhiteh | you can't redistribute teh documentation in any way |
| 13:15.50 | DWSR | jnwhiteh: It's a snippet from oUF. adimit wants to know what the line *does*, and frankly, so do I. |
| 13:15.53 | jnwhiteh | adimit: whihch isn't mine.. |
| 13:15.58 | jnwhiteh | so why the fuck would I know? |
| 13:16.01 | jnwhiteh | it obviously does nothing |
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| 13:16.07 | jnwhiteh | it does styleFunc = styles[style] |
| 13:16.10 | jnwhiteh | but I have nothing to do with that |
| 13:16.17 | DWSR | jnwhiteh: Right, but why this = that or that? |
| 13:16.23 | jnwhiteh | so no, you can't distribtue a chm version, or a script that makes them |
| 13:16.29 | jnwhiteh | WHY ARE YOU ASKING ME? |
| 13:16.43 | jnwhiteh | lua> foo = true and "blah"; print(foo) |
| 13:16.45 | adimit | ... yeah, that was my best guess, but I'm a Lua noob, so I decided to ask, in case I missed something crucial. |
| 13:16.50 | jnwhiteh | lua> foo = false and "blah" or "monkey"; print(foo) |
| 13:16.57 | jnwhiteh | wtf luabot |
| 13:17.00 | DWSR | jnwhiteh: Lua_bot's not here. |
| 13:17.11 | DWSR | Nor purl, for that matter. |
| 13:17.20 | Adys | [13:15:49] <DWSR> jnwhiteh: It's a snippet from oUF. adimit wants to know what the line *does*, and frankly, so do I. |
| 13:17.26 | Adys | checking for radiation |
| 13:17.28 | jnwhiteh | lua> foo = false and "blah" or "monkey"; print(foo); bar = true and "blah"; print(foo, bar) |
| 13:17.39 | jnwhiteh | grr, i was too quick. |
| 13:17.47 | jnwhiteh | lua_bot is taking 10 million years to join |
| 13:17.50 | jnwhiteh | not making sense. |
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| 13:18.10 | jnwhiteh | lua> foo = false and "blah" or "monkey"; print(foo); bar = true and "blah"; print(foo, bar) |
| 13:18.24 | DWSR | no output. |
| 13:18.37 | DWSR | just tried it in weblua |
| 13:18.38 | adimit | Adys: radiation? |
| 13:18.46 | jnwhiteh | messages from the server are taking too long. |
| 13:19.00 | jnwhiteh | DWSR: it returns 'monkey, blah' |
| 13:19.02 | jnwhiteh | not No output. |
| 13:19.04 | jnwhiteh | so. fail. |
| 13:19.10 | lua_bot | jnwhiteh: monkey, monkey, blah |
| 13:19.12 | DWSR | jnwhiteh: Ah, missing > at the end. |
| 13:19.20 | DWSR | jnwhiteh: Fail. |
| 13:19.21 | DWSR | :P |
| 13:19.27 | jnwhiteh | I didn't miss anyting |
| 13:19.31 | jnwhiteh | thanks very much |
| 13:19.36 | DWSR | No, I did. |
| 13:19.41 | jnwhiteh | SO STOP PINGING ME! |
| 13:19.43 | jnwhiteh | =/ |
| 13:20.05 | DWSR | I'm doing it so that you don't have to hunt for the lines that I'm addressing to you. :) |
| 13:20.21 | jnwhiteh | i hate you. |
| 13:20.27 | DWSR | go back to sleep |
| 13:20.34 | jnwhiteh | I'm not sleeping |
| 13:20.42 | DWSR | Then why *are* you so grumpy? |
| 13:20.47 | haste | adimit: it's left over cruft |
| 13:20.50 | jnwhiteh | ... |
| 13:20.54 | jnwhiteh | because you asked me about sometign oUF |
| 13:20.58 | jnwhiteh | when I have nothing to do with it |
| 13:21.01 | adimit | haste: I just noticed by looking at 48ce8b1b |
| 13:21.38 | Adys | jnwhiteh: I just ate some really, really awesome rice with bacon |
| 13:21.41 | adimit | The original line was 'local style = styles[object:GetParent().style] or styles[style]' which makes a lot more sense to me. |
| 13:22.05 | haste | adimit: yes, but that line was split out above, but the old condition code wasn't |
| 13:23.08 | DWSR | jnwhiteh: Right, but I'm asking about the syntactical meaning as opposed to the implementation-specific meaning. |
| 13:23.16 | jnwhiteh | and i showed |
| 13:23.16 | jnwhiteh | you |
| 13:23.18 | jnwhiteh | via example |
| 13:23.32 | DWSR | Yes, thank you. :) |
| 13:26.04 | DWSR | ~botsnack |
| 13:26.04 | purl | DWSR: :) |
| 13:26.08 | DWSR | Ah, so you are here. |
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| 13:28.48 | adimit | haste: in case you're interested, I have a fork of oUF here: http://github.com/adimit/oUF.git It just contains two commits: a correction to the line above (I just removed the conditional) and a hook for PostCastSent (in case one wants to find out the target of the current player's cast, or maybe do some GCD calculations) |
| 13:38.29 | haste | adimit: I've made the change locally already, and your extra hook won't ever get merged |
| 13:38.58 | adimit | haste: ok. (can I ask why?) |
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| 13:39.50 | haste | adimit: it does nothing except give you an extra post call, which you could just as well do from a layout by registering the function yourself |
| 13:42.43 | adimit | haste: yeah, I couldn't find any other good use for the event yet, but thought it might be better to put it in oUF proper, to reduce duplication among layouts that *want* to use it. |
| 13:43.15 | haste | I would think 95% of all layouts won't use it |
| 13:43.47 | adimit | Probably, yes. |
| 13:44.03 | DWSR | haste: 1) Is there a source for oUF docs/tutorials for building a layout and 2) Is there a graphical configuration tool *somewhere*? |
| 13:44.55 | haste | DWSR: 1) docs are leisurely being built by me for the 1.4 branch 2) not that I know of |
| 13:45.40 | DWSR | So. |
| 13:45.42 | DWSR | No and no? |
| 13:45.51 | haste | pretty much |
| 13:46.00 | DWSR | le sigh |
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| 13:46.15 | DWSR | Probably just stick with SUF then. |
| 13:46.41 | haste | Shadowed will rejoice :) |
| 13:47.22 | DWSR | No, because I'll be bugging him for some features soon enough |
| 13:48.03 | olafski | woot. /me hit level Plate |
| 13:48.10 | olafski | solo questing in prot spec is fun |
| 13:48.10 | DWSR | woot woot |
| 13:48.14 | DWSR | Yeah, it is. |
| 13:48.21 | DWSR | If it's anything like tank spec for DKs. |
| 13:48.28 | Kalroth | olafski: fourtay, fat and finished! |
| 13:48.31 | olafski | it's not dwsr :P |
| 13:48.43 | olafski | it kills reaaaallllyyyy slowly |
| 13:48.50 | olafski | well now I have shield slam so it should improve a bit |
| 13:49.20 | olafski | must replace 3 more items with plate though |
| 13:49.30 | Kalroth | well the idea behind levelling as prot spec is that you pull a ton of mobs and aoe them down, but you'll need shockwave before thats any fun :P |
| 13:49.41 | Kalroth | although cleave glyph helps tons |
| 13:49.53 | DWSR | Yeah |
| 13:49.54 | olafski | my idea behind prot is that I level in dungeons |
| 13:50.08 | Kalroth | you're insane! |
| 13:50.17 | Kalroth | that requires you to level with others |
| 13:50.23 | DWSR | We all know how others can be. |
| 13:50.29 | olafski | would be nice if they didn't put me in dungeons _just_ above what I can handle all the time though |
| 13:50.39 | olafski | uldaman at lvl 34 had some pretty hard to hit mobs |
| 13:50.50 | adimit | Kalroth: it's fun. I've levelled my priest to 64 this way so far, randomly letting people die that I don't like. |
| 13:50.51 | Kalroth | gem hit rating, np! |
| 13:51.00 | olafski | no sockets at this level :P |
| 13:51.02 | Kalroth | adimit: so that was you!! |
| 13:51.14 | olafski | not to mention you can't accept most of the dungeon quests when you get thrown in a dungeon, and all the drops become usable about 6 levels later |
| 13:51.16 | adimit | Kalroth, your fault for pulling aggro :-P |
| 13:51.55 | Kalroth | :D |
| 13:52.37 | Kalroth | A real DPS warrior pulls aggro in order to get more rage |
| 13:52.42 | olafski | random dungeon rewards rock in vanilla |
| 13:52.48 | olafski | shame they suck in tbc =( |
| 13:52.50 | Kalroth | Yelling at the healer is only a secondary benefit |
| 13:52.53 | adimit | and they so suck in tbc |
| 13:53.24 | adimit | a real healer knows how to wield /ignore to get those queue times up for DPS. |
| 13:56.10 | olafski | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Turalyon&cn=Warriorski <-- have had those shoulders since lvl 33 :( |
| 13:58.39 | DWSR | I got grouped with someone on my ignore list. |
| 13:58.42 | DWSR | How does that happen? |
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| 14:02.06 | Kalroth | are you the leader? |
| 14:02.22 | DWSR | I was just using LFD. |
| 14:02.39 | Gnarfoz | are you the leader? |
| 14:02.47 | DWSR | nope. |
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| 14:22.08 | eXemplar | any seasoned devs bored enough to critique my code? :P http://wowuidev.pastey.net/134368 |
| 14:22.10 | eXemplar | wups |
| 14:22.12 | eXemplar | hit up+enter |
| 14:22.16 | eXemplar | wrong window |
| 14:23.43 | Adys | eXemplar: its properly indented |
| 14:23.47 | Adys | and thats the only thing that matters |
| 14:24.17 | eXemplar | heh |
| 14:24.37 | Adys | youve no idea how many times i see retardented code |
| 14:24.49 | Adys | claims rights on that word |
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| 15:16.29 | ScytheBlade1 | so I log all data that hits my firewall that I don't want to see |
| 15:16.33 | ScytheBlade1 | total system log file: 17MB |
| 15:16.44 | ScytheBlade1 | total size of 'dropped' messages within: 16MB |
| 15:22.17 | A-KO | what exaclty is it dropping? |
| 15:22.50 | A-KO | I don't bother with dropped packets unless I intend on doing some research as to what's out there on the net :P |
| 15:23.10 | ScytheBlade1 | anything that wasn't destined for an open port |
| 15:23.45 | A-KO | seems like a waste, no? |
| 15:23.53 | ScytheBlade1 | well now I've got a ton of data |
| 15:24.02 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm kinda curious to see where all this is coming from |
| 15:24.12 | A-KO | probably bots |
| 15:24.21 | ScytheBlade1 | well the first IP hit was korea |
| 15:24.53 | A-KO | I consider a lot of that stuff to be random internet noise :P |
| 15:24.54 | ScytheBlade1 | second from bangalore! |
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| 15:36.38 | jnwhiteh | ~seen werehamster |
| 15:36.41 | purl | werehamster <~tomc@caurea.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 30d 6h 22m 16s ago, saying: 'at which university does shirik study?'. |
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| 16:06.21 | Shadowed | Shirik werehamster is going to show up soon it looks like! |
| 16:07.19 | jnwhiteh | if he's had a month of travel yeah |
| 16:07.57 | Shadowed | maybe he's hitch hiking |
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| 16:22.07 | DWSR | I'm on a train. |
| 16:22.16 | DWSR | Goin in straight lines in shit. |
| 16:22.27 | DWSR | Tootin ma horn, gettin everybody upset. |
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| 17:42.59 | Adys | If you're bored |
| 17:43.01 | Adys | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4Za_e4xMDs&feature=digest |
| 17:43.09 | Adys | Turn on automatic captions |
| 17:43.14 | Adys | Laugh hysterically |
| 17:47.50 | Cide | so confusing |
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| 17:59.02 | haste | hmmmm |
| 17:59.07 | haste | flash is segfaulting firefox again |
| 18:01.30 | A-KO | http://www.terragalleria.com/pictures-subjects/bas-reliefs/picture.bas-reliefs.indi39629.html < oh India |
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| 18:30.30 | adimit | What did I do to deserve being thrown into Mana Tombs with 4 DKs? |
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| 18:31.00 | olafski | lol |
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| 18:39.04 | frontendloader | if I'm inserting 5 values delimited by commas into a string should I do string.format or table.concat |
| 18:39.13 | frontendloader | both seem like good options |
| 18:39.46 | haste | if you already have a table you might as well use table.concat |
| 18:39.56 | frontendloader | I don't have a table yet |
| 18:40.07 | frontendloader | just 5 variables |
| 18:40.15 | haste | then string.format is probably the best solution |
| 19:05.37 | nevcairiel | if its always 5 values, use format |
| 19:05.50 | nevcairiel | concat is handy if you either already have a table, or the number of values changes |
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| 19:14.44 | Adys | Cide: you know, this transcribe is really rofl |
| 19:14.48 | Adys | i keep rewatching it |
| 19:14.55 | Adys | "These projects are quite open within the team, you can contribute to certain aspects" => |
| 19:14.56 | Adys | "plato religious leaders of the ticket punched to be the sort of assistance" |
| 19:15.22 | Shirik | "In mathematics, a 3-manifold is a 3-dimensional manifold." |
| 19:15.25 | Shirik | thanks. |
| 19:15.28 | Adys | this sounds like it went through translationparty |
| 19:16.52 | Shirik | http://translationparty.com/#6925152 |
| 19:17.03 | Adys | http://www.translationparty.com/#6925150 |
| 19:17.14 | Shirik | ... wtf |
| 19:17.34 | Adys | thats another transcribe shirik |
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| 19:18.11 | Adys | "The whole point of this project just ross perot" |
| 19:19.06 | Adys | SHIRIK |
| 19:19.10 | Adys | I just had the best idea ever |
| 19:19.19 | Shirik | This article may meet Wikipediaâs criteria for speedy deletion as a page that serves no purpose but to disparage or threaten its subject or some other entity. This includes legal threats. This also includes an article about a living person that is entirely negative in tone and unsourced, where there is no neutral version in the history to revert to. See CSD G10. |
| 19:19.26 | Adys | 1. Buy youtubetranslationparty.com |
| 19:19.50 | Shirik | 2. ??? |
| 19:19.52 | Shirik | 3. Profit |
| 19:19.53 | Shirik | ? |
| 19:20.01 | Adys | 2. Set up a service that translates text to speech with youtube's comment read feature |
| 19:20.13 | Adys | 3. Use youtube's audio transcription to translate it back to text |
| 19:20.14 | Adys | back and forth |
| 19:20.23 | Adys | 4. ??? PROFIT. |
| 19:21.05 | Fisker | i hate you Shirik |
| 19:21.08 | Fisker | do you hate me? |
| 19:21.12 | Shirik | no |
| 19:21.16 | Lopeppeppy | Yes or no, X the box. |
| 19:21.41 | Fisker | then i'm sad |
| 19:21.49 | Adys | Lopeppeppy: "You pressed 2. I'm almost positive you did." |
| 19:21.51 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHxS8wlDngI |
| 19:22.48 | Adys | shirik :( |
| 19:22.52 | Adys | tell me its the best idea ever |
| 19:23.06 | Shirik | it's the best idea ever |
| 19:23.10 | Adys | \o/ |
| 19:23.13 | Adys | does it |
| 19:23.18 | Shirik | k glhf |
| 19:23.27 | Adys | does shirik |
| 19:23.37 | Shirik | noty |
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| 19:27.04 | Dagmar | There's a flaw in your plan, Adys. |
| 19:27.12 | Adys | I know about it |
| 19:27.14 | Adys | and I dont care |
| 19:27.17 | Adys | i can work around it |
| 19:27.35 | Dagmar | So, why would anyone in their right mind want to read YouTube comments? |
| 19:27.47 | Adys | i didnt say that |
| 19:27.56 | Adys | input text in a box |
| 19:28.08 | Adys | then it uses the youtube tts feature to translate it to speech |
| 19:28.13 | Adys | create an avi out of it |
| 19:28.17 | Adys | upload it to youtube |
| 19:28.23 | Adys | snatch the audio transcription |
| 19:28.56 | Adys | repeat until youtube audio transcription doesn't trigger anymore |
| 19:29.13 | Adys | obviously it would take like 10 minutes just to have three translates back & forth but hey. |
| 19:31.11 | olafski | are there any videos around where the transcription works properly? |
| 19:32.12 | Adys | olafski: yes, usually its very good |
| 19:32.27 | Adys | but it doesn't deal well with non-americanobritish accents :P |
| 19:32.43 | Dagmar | http://failblog.org/2010/03/19/around-the-interwebs-22/ <-- sigh |
| 19:33.02 | olafski | mkay |
| 19:33.09 | Dagmar | Adys: Even the computers think those people "talk funny" |
| 19:33.53 | Adys | olafski: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpxgkmRRhcU |
| 19:34.00 | Adys | this is a very good example of effective transcription |
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| 19:34.36 | Adys | some glitches but it's still very impressive |
| 19:35.10 | Adys | "it's unobtrusive" => "it isn't true sir" :P |
| 19:35.50 | Adys | it also seems to have issues with "DVD" |
| 19:35.53 | Adys | "dee dee dees" |
| 19:36.24 | Adys | additions => haitians |
| 19:36.38 | Adys | but at least it makes a lot more sense than "plato religious leaders of the ticket punched to be the sort of assistance" |
| 19:36.59 | olafski | has anyone even been so as .. ? :) |
| 19:37.13 | Adys | aye |
| 19:38.08 | Adys | "blu-ray" => "polluter" |
| 19:38.11 | Adys | that ones funny. |
| 19:38.36 | Adys | "HDMI" => "teach your mind" - viral advertising imo |
| 19:39.40 | Adys | on a sidenote i think youtube mostly focused its efforts on automatic captioning for government talks |
| 19:40.15 | Dagmar | Good choice to beta that with, since a lot of what they say doesn't make any sense to begin with. |
| 19:40.17 | Adys | which is why you always see shit like "Senator Clinton" popping in the middle of a sentence about blu rays |
| 19:43.17 | olafski | just saw alice in wonderland.. next time I'm going to a cinema that doesn't have a 3d projector :P |
| 19:46.31 | Fisker | An experimental time machine opens a window into the future and mutated monsters (the Morlocks) use it to come back to the present and go on a murderous rampage |
| 19:46.35 | Fisker | lololol |
| 19:47.18 | olafski | sounds good |
| 19:47.22 | olafski | is it Doom II? |
| 19:47.33 | olafski | oh wait, that wasn't the future, it was a portal to hell |
| 19:47.58 | Adys | olafski: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morlock |
| 19:49.39 | olafski | yer I think I know what it is.. was commenting on the originality of the story =) |
| 19:49.46 | olafski | a second doom movie would be cool though |
| 19:56.39 | frontendloader | hrm |
| 19:57.05 | frontendloader | I'm trying to set up a printing function that'll function the same as lua's print |
| 19:57.28 | frontendloader | in that it'll take multiple arguments and delimit them with a space |
| 19:58.46 | frontendloader | I suppose I need to do it something like local function print(msg, ...) instead of just print(...) |
| 19:59.40 | frontendloader | since if I only pass one argument to print I have no idea how to test it for length and not have it error |
| 20:00.46 | frontendloader | if #... would throw an error if there is only one argument would it not? |
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| 20:06.20 | Cide | olafski: was it bad on 3d? |
| 20:10.05 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/03/20/funny-pictures-vocabulary/ - should've said "vocatbulary" |
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| 20:15.23 | Arathros | aaaaw |
| 20:15.33 | Arathros | we almost screwed up a igs commercial in org lol |
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| 20:22.26 | Fisker | :( |
| 20:22.32 | Fisker | 200k wipe on blood princes |
| 20:25.33 | cbreak | that can count as kill |
| 20:25.47 | cbreak | my closest wipe in WotLK was a 16k wipe on Festergut |
| 20:25.54 | cbreak | (in 25) |
| 20:32.34 | Shirik | ok I just found the scariest shit ever |
| 20:32.46 | Shirik | go to google maps, go to 52 04' 09.21", 4 18' 50.60 |
| 20:32.49 | Lopeppeppy | What shit is not scary? |
| 20:32.53 | Shirik | turn on sattelite and zoom in |
| 20:33.00 | Shirik | there is a car parked on the side of a building |
| 20:33.29 | Adys | http://www.mmo-champion.com/general-discussions-22/which-one-of-the-warcraft-characters-do-you-think-is-a-virgin/ |
| 20:33.31 | Adys | wow |
| 20:33.34 | Adys | some of those, rofl |
| 20:34.14 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, there's obviously an image defect, as there's parking lot lines. And a dumpster, I believe. |
| 20:34.33 | Shirik | I still think it's hilarious |
| 20:35.04 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, it's excellent, I agree! |
| 20:35.42 | olafski | couldn't you just post a link to it shirik :( |
| 20:35.55 | Shirik | how do you do that? |
| 20:36.02 | Shirik | oh |
| 20:36.03 | Shirik | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=52+04'+09.21%22,+4+18'+50.60&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=40.817312,79.013672&ie=UTF8&ll=52.069218,4.313934&spn=0.000244,0.000603&t=h&z=21 |
| 20:36.38 | olafski | it could be a normal picture |
| 20:36.45 | olafski | there are some people who consider such things art |
| 20:36.47 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 20:36.52 | Fisker | want to hey? |
| 20:36.57 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 20:37.06 | olafski | we have a couple more of those in holland too.. like trains sticking out the side of a building and such |
| 20:37.20 | zenzelezz | yeah, looks to me like normal advertisement or art |
| 20:37.33 | zenzelezz | funny though |
| 20:37.57 | Fisker | i like it when you hey me Shirik |
| 20:38.36 | Fisker | wtf Shirik |
| 20:39.14 | Fisker | http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=52+04'+09.21%22,+4+18'+50.60&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=40.817312,79.013672&ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=52.069234,4.314098&spn=0.000385,0.001032&z=21&layer=c&cbll=52.069291,4.313959&panoid=yMCbQ9xNfSsmrxpkppMEmw&cbp=12,199.12,,0,-12.25 |
| 20:39.15 | Fisker | lol |
| 20:39.34 | Shirik | what the hell? |
| 20:40.13 | Lopeppeppy | I guess you're right, someone superglued a car to the building. :) |
| 20:40.42 | zenzelezz | probably just bolted it on |
| 20:41.08 | Lopeppeppy | I like my idea better. *sniff* |
| 20:41.13 | Fisker | i bolted your mom zenzelezz |
| 20:41.34 | Shirik | pets Lopeppeppy |
| 20:41.48 | Shirik | if it's any consolation, that's what I thought too |
| 20:42.08 | Lopeppeppy | My hand surgeon used superglue after the operation. Bright purple stuff. |
| 20:42.49 | Lopeppeppy | They call it "Dermabond" when it's used by the medical field. |
| 20:43.44 | zenzelezz | well, I think they can make glue that your body can absorb |
| 20:43.49 | zenzelezz | that's not so easy with bolts |
| 20:44.03 | zenzelezz | but your idea would be more impressive |
| 20:46.06 | Lopeppeppy | I think they only use this stuff externally. It was neat, anyway, but looked awful at first. |
| 20:48.42 | Fisker | why don't you zenzelezz? |
| 20:55.25 | Lopeppeppy | needs brownies. Hrm. |
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| 20:55.58 | Bruners | hi Fisker |
| 21:00.11 | Fisker | hey Bruners |
| 21:00.14 | Fisker | why would you? |
| 21:00.39 | Bruners | Fisker: how is SC2 ? |
| 21:00.57 | frontendloader | theres no way to do type-based function overloading in lua is there? |
| 21:02.29 | Lopeppeppy | I'm totally baking pumpkin brownies right now! |
| 21:07.00 | Fisker | it's awright Bruners |
| 21:07.53 | Adys | Kalroth: you're gonna be banned from mmoc really soon! |
| 21:07.59 | Adys | We're making elitism against the rules! |
| 21:08.09 | frontendloader | can't even typecheck :(((( |
| 21:16.35 | Arrowmaster | frontendloader: what are you trying to do? |
| 21:19.48 | cbreak | frontendloader: sure you can |
| 21:19.55 | cbreak | > print(type("abc")) |
| 21:20.04 | cbreak | tada, type check. |
| 21:20.11 | Alleidun | hehe :P |
| 21:22.46 | Arathros | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL0ltnbOlxQ&feature=related |
| 21:22.50 | Arathros | beginning is awesome |
| 21:24.56 | Gnarfoz | sc2 needs a vsync option :X |
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| 21:27.59 | Fisker | your mom is a vsync option |
| 21:29.42 | zenzelezz | I really don't understand games that don't offer a vsync option |
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| 21:32.03 | Gnarfoz | well, you can always force it |
| 21:45.43 | Fisker | Gnarfoz |
| 21:45.47 | Gnarfoz | Fisker |
| 21:45.56 | Fisker | lalala |
| 21:45.59 | Gnarfoz | lululu |
| 21:46.21 | Fisker | lololo |
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| 21:47.28 | Kalroth | Adys: where are you going to stay then?! |
| 21:47.34 | Fisker | Kalroth |
| 21:47.35 | Fisker | u |
| 21:47.37 | Adys | at your place |
| 21:47.41 | Kalroth | hot |
| 21:49.16 | Fisker | no you're hot Kalroth |
| 21:50.22 | Fisker | bleeter |
| 21:50.56 | Industrial | Fisker: fix my longing for wow by telling me it will be same old same old in 2 weeks |
| 21:51.54 | Fisker | your mother is the same old :( |
| 21:52.30 | Industrial | .. that was a serious request. |
| 21:54.53 | Lopeppeppy | Indie. Relax. 2 weeks is nothing. |
| 21:55.03 | Lopeppeppy | I may even join you in rejoining in a few weeks! |
| 21:55.08 | Lopeppeppy | (I hope) |
| 21:55.46 | Fisker | World of Warcraft is awesome |
| 21:56.04 | Industrial | Fisker: fix my git repo. http://pastebin.com/rrzTVd37 |
| 21:57.48 | haste | Industrial: git fsck --full :p ? |
| 21:58.20 | Gagorian | Longing for wow? What's that :( |
| 21:58.31 | Lopeppeppy | What Indie and I feel. *sad* |
| 21:58.53 | haste | I'm 12 and what's this. |
| 22:02.57 | Fisker | hello haste |
| 22:02.58 | Fisker | why would you? |
| 22:05.53 | Industrial | haste: Welcome to the internet. We've been watching you. |
| 22:06.11 | haste | oh shi- |
| 22:07.25 | haste | man, so bored right now |
| 22:07.32 | haste | *fires up cs!* |
| 22:07.50 | Fisker | counter-strike? |
| 22:08.13 | Fisker | funny |
| 22:08.24 | Fisker | if you walk the minimap updates quicker than if you don't |
| 22:21.39 | Fisker | what shitty asus eeepc did you get haste? |
| 22:23.00 | Adys | Industrial: I see djangoing! |
| 22:23.16 | Adys | way to go dude, don't let the RoR fools impress you |
| 22:24.45 | amro | Adys: gaynor left an impression on you? |
| 22:24.59 | Adys | [22:17:11] <Alex_Gaynor> /shrug |
| 22:25.34 | *** join/#wowuidev Dish (~chatzilla@dslb-094-222-029-204.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 22:25.50 | Adys | starts doing the dishes |
| 22:25.58 | Dish | :) |
| 22:26.11 | amro | get a room at least |
| 22:27.03 | *** join/#wowuidev p3lim (~Miranda@89-151-222.200.3p.ntebredband.no) |
| 22:27.09 | Dish | Can I ask a quick question concerning kgpanels scripts? |
| 22:28.42 | Shadowed | Sure, you may have more luck finding an answer on the kgpanel comments thought |
| 22:28.49 | Shadowed | but you can try! |
| 22:28.50 | Dish | I wanna hide stuff. AddonXYZ:SetAlpha(1) works fine- but I got some frames with spaces and " - " init. What do I do now? |
| 22:29.26 | Adys | SetAlpha(1) will show it, not hide it |
| 22:29.46 | Adys | if you want to hide stuff, try /dump GetMouseFocus():GetName() while hovering the (clickable) frame |
| 22:30.17 | Seerah | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:30.28 | Adys | i always forget about that |
| 22:31.36 | Adys | Dish: Are you dutch by any chance? |
| 22:31.54 | Dish | nope. german- its pretty similar |
| 22:32.15 | Fisker | phew |
| 22:32.18 | Adys | it's similarly close to france |
| 22:32.22 | Adys | similar enough |
| 22:32.26 | Fisker | we took BQ on heroic with -0,56 seconds to spare! |
| 22:32.31 | Dish | I ment the language |
| 22:32.36 | Adys | I know! |
| 22:33.07 | Kalroth | fisker is a winnar! |
| 22:33.58 | Dish | well, the name I get is "StatBlockCore_StatsNow - Healing" and kgpanels doesnt like the " - " :( |
| 22:34.21 | Adys | ~whalenuke Kalroth |
| 22:34.22 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Kalroth with his mind powers. |
| 22:34.22 | Arrowmaster | _G["StatBlockCore_StatsNow - Healing"]:Hide() |
| 22:34.49 | Adys | OH |
| 22:34.56 | Fisker | indeed i am Kalroth |
| 22:34.57 | Adys | i totally didnt understand the whole " - " |
| 22:35.05 | Fisker | still pissed we couldn't take blood princes due to stupid RNG |
| 22:35.24 | Adys | cry the hell more |
| 22:35.31 | Fisker | i will |
| 22:35.40 | Fisker | QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ |
| 22:35.46 | Arrowmaster | im getting my ass kicked by the last enemy in an arcade fighting game |
| 22:36.23 | Kalroth | i upgraded the firmware on my blu-ray player and now i can watch mkv files on it, yaay |
| 22:36.54 | Arrowmaster | bet it cant handle subtitles |
| 22:37.02 | Kalroth | it cant :/ |
| 22:37.03 | Adys | I widened the hole in my toilet bowl and now I can take twice bigger dumps in it Kalroth |
| 22:37.11 | Dish | _G["StatBlockCore_StatsNow - Healing"]:Hide() works niceley. ty. whats the _G about? or is it faster to find sth on the web.. ? |
| 22:37.12 | Kalroth | Arrowmaster: why cant it! |
| 22:37.22 | Shadowed | Adys |
| 22:37.32 | Fisker | i took your mom to a table saw and tried to saw her head off Kalroth |
| 22:37.34 | Adys | Shadowed: want some of my bowl's contents? |
| 22:37.44 | Shadowed | less talk more coding |
| 22:37.48 | Fisker | yeah Shadowed |
| 22:37.51 | Fisker | fix my damn bug |
| 22:38.07 | Adys | Shadowed: I wont get your stupid tooltip issues fixed by coding |
| 22:38.10 | Fisker | whoa Shadowed |
| 22:38.14 | Adys | but by TALKING to the guy supposed to fix it for me |
| 22:38.17 | Fisker | we're expanding our operation |
| 22:38.19 | Shadowed | I could |
| 22:38.23 | Shadowed | but I like harassing you |
| 22:38.26 | Adys | you could shut the hell up |
| 22:38.29 | Adys | and lemme work |
| 22:38.29 | Shadowed | <3 |
| 22:38.31 | Adys | lemme talk |
| 22:39.27 | amro | ~gag Adys |
| 22:39.28 | purl | ACTION takes away the voice of Adys and, as an additional precaution, sews Adys's mouth shut permanently... |
| 22:39.45 | amro | that's two things you can't do. |
| 22:39.45 | Kalroth | it doesnt work amro |
| 22:40.00 | Adys | i dont have +v |
| 22:40.04 | Adys | how can you take a voice i dont have |
| 22:40.07 | Kalroth | i gagged him using something else last night and he still keeps yappin' |
| 22:40.10 | amro | you have +hiv |
| 22:40.13 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Adys] by Shadowed |
| 22:40.14 | Adys | and why dont i still have not voice anyway? |
| 22:40.16 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-v Adys] by Shadowed |
| 22:40.18 | amro | that's why we have to shut you down |
| 22:40.42 | Adys | i have no idea how such a senseless sentence could be written at such an awkward point in time |
| 22:40.47 | amro | probably because you mutilate the English language at every opportunity |
| 22:41.16 | Adys | my mutilation of the language is to be spoken of in no term |
| 22:41.45 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-v Adys] by Shirik |
| 22:42.32 | Adys | try harder shirik |
| 22:42.36 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-v Adys] by Shirik |
| 22:42.39 | Adys | try harder shirik |
| 22:42.39 | Shadowed | too slow Shirik |
| 22:42.41 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-v Adys] by Shirik |
| 22:42.41 | Shadowed | too slow |
| 22:42.42 | Adys | try harder shirik |
| 22:42.45 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-v Adys] by Shirik |
| 22:42.51 | Adys | try slightly softer shirik |
| 22:42.56 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+b Adys!*@*] by Shadowed |
| 22:43.06 | Shadowed | can he still talk |
| 22:43.10 | Shirik | no |
| 22:43.14 | Shadowed | excellent! |
| 22:43.16 | amro | he can whisper |
| 22:43.16 | Shirik | He has -5v |
| 22:43.21 | Shadowed | wtf is -5v |
| 22:43.25 | amro | -5 volts |
| 22:43.28 | *** part/#wowuidev Adys (~Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 22:43.30 | *** join/#wowuidev Adys` (~Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 22:43.33 | Adys` | Yes I can |
| 22:43.41 | Shadowed | I think we can ban him for ban evasion now Shirik |
| 22:43.45 | amro | Adys`? who's that? |
| 22:43.46 | Shadowed | right |
| 22:43.48 | amro | any relation to Adys? |
| 22:43.50 | Shirik | I'm not getting involved |
| 22:43.52 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-b adys!*@*] by Shadowed |
| 22:43.55 | Shadowed | Adys is no fun |
| 22:43.57 | Shadowed | er Shirik |
| 22:44.04 | Adys | you know what |
| 22:44.04 | amro | Adys is a lot of fun. |
| 22:44.06 | Adys | you asked for it |
| 22:44.12 | *** join/#wowuidev Addybot (~addybot@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 22:44.22 | amro | !die |
| 22:44.30 | Shadowed | !spell t |
| 22:44.31 | Adys | Shadowed: +10 All Stats - http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/68251/10-all-stats/ |
| 22:44.37 | batrick | guys r mean |
| 22:44.42 | Shadowed | we love Adys |
| 22:44.45 | Shadowed | he's a member of the family |
| 22:44.59 | Shirik | !spell ";DROP DATABASE;-- |
| 22:45.16 | Shadowed | I already tried that |
| 22:45.19 | amro | I would never stop laughing if that worked |
| 22:45.31 | Shadowed | !spell t |
| 22:45.33 | Adys | amro: you know it's just a django .filter() |
| 22:45.37 | Adys | brb |
| 22:45.42 | Shadowed | we killed him :( |
| 22:45.46 | Shirik | of course |
| 22:45.46 | batrick | no u |
| 22:45.49 | Shirik | I am very good at killing bots |
| 22:45.50 | batrick | oi shirik |
| 22:45.51 | Shirik | ask batrick |
| 22:45.52 | batrick | chess later |
| 22:45.54 | *** join/#wowuidev Adys (~Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 22:45.55 | Shirik | ok |
| 22:46.29 | batrick | shirik hasn't beaten batbot in many monthes tho |
| 22:46.32 | batrick | i think he's losing his touch |
| 22:46.35 | Adys | but yeah go ahead Shirik, try to bug it |
| 22:46.40 | Shirik | I don't know the commands |
| 22:46.54 | amro | !bug |
| 22:46.56 | Shirik | can I do it in whisper? |
| 22:47.05 | Shadowed | But then we won't see you crash it horribly :( |
| 22:47.09 | Adys | no, but you can do it in #addybot |
| 22:47.11 | Shirik | you'll see him die |
| 22:47.16 | Shadowed | true |
| 22:47.21 | Adys | spell|p|buff|faction|is|object|npc|itemset|quest|obj|skill|achievement|glyph|a|c|z|e|zone|g|f|i|h|ach|talent|o|q|instance|s|t|item|gameobject|holiday|enchant|page|creature |
| 22:47.31 | Adys | you can use all of this, except skill/glyph/holiday/talent i think |
| 22:47.45 | amro | you lack skills and any talent |
| 22:47.49 | amro | that's not surprising. |
| 22:48.02 | Shirik | what is a/c/z/e? |
| 22:48.04 | Adys | yes, but since I dont take any holiday that compensates |
| 22:48.09 | Shadowed | z = zoine |
| 22:48.14 | Adys | a is.. something, c is npc, z is zone, e is enchant |
| 22:48.16 | Shadowed | z/zoine/zone/ |
| 22:48.23 | Shadowed | :( |
| 22:48.25 | Adys | ah |
| 22:48.27 | Adys | a is achievement. |
| 22:48.37 | Shadowed | s/z/zoine/zone/s/zoine/zone/ |
| 22:48.43 | amro | z is zizi |
| 22:48.44 | Shadowed | if only purl could parse that |
| 22:49.03 | Adys | amro: bozob le clown? |
| 22:49.04 | Shirik | LOAD THE BOT |
| 22:49.10 | Adys | its loaded |
| 22:49.14 | Adys | i dont have to bring addybot |
| 22:49.40 | Adys | oh and shirik, since you wanna have so much fun |
| 22:49.54 | Adys | you can also use !dbc Spell.dbc (or any other .dbc) to load a dbc in memory |
| 22:49.57 | *** join/#wowuidev Osagasu (~Creek@67-197-1-37.rh1.dyn.cm.comporium.net) |
| 22:50.03 | Shadowed | hmmm |
| 22:50.06 | Shadowed | !dbc Spell.dbc |
| 22:50.06 | Adys | Loaded Spell.dbc: 49816 rows total |
| 22:50.06 | Shadowed | !dbc Spell.dbc |
| 22:50.07 | Adys | Loaded Spell.dbc: 49816 rows total |
| 22:50.26 | amro | !dbc 42.zip |
| 22:50.38 | Adys | Major fuck you Shadowed |
| 22:50.40 | Adys | :P |
| 22:50.55 | Shadowed | victory |
| 22:51.05 | Shadowed | you might want to throttle that |
| 22:51.16 | amro | fuck you got promoted to Lt. Colonel Adys |
| 22:51.18 | amro | try to keep up |
| 22:51.30 | Adys | i blame the xchat api on that one |
| 22:51.32 | Adys | why? |
| 22:51.39 | Shadowed | :D |
| 22:51.41 | Shadowed | I like how it keeps loading the dbc |
| 22:51.49 | Shadowed | or at least, it keeps saying it does |
| 22:52.08 | Adys | Well Im sorry okay, ive been busy with work lately |
| 22:52.10 | Adys | Shadowed: oh, it does |
| 22:52.12 | Adys | it reparses it every time |
| 22:52.16 | Adys | you're just competing with a very, very efficient parser :P |
| 22:52.17 | Shadowed | awesome |
| 22:55.15 | Adys | I'm pondering how much time Shiri`k is gonna need to figure out that I hardcoded a negative check for slashes in !dbc |
| 22:55.24 | *** join/#wowuidev Fidge (~fidge@host-213-213-223-81.brutele.be) |
| 22:56.05 | Shirik | !QUOTE JOIN #addybot |
| 22:57.52 | *** part/#wowuidev Thaoky (Thaoky@91.181.162.172) |
| 23:00.33 | Adys | ~pin |
| 23:00.33 | purl | rumour has it, pin is $1 <action> laughs as adys gets $1 in a headlock while screaming 'Say Uncle!' |
| 23:00.34 | Adys | ~ping |
| 23:00.34 | purl | ~pong |
| 23:00.48 | Adys | ~fail purl |
| 23:00.49 | purl | You suck at everything in life, purl. I hate you because you fail. |
| 23:00.49 | amro | ~pin Adys |
| 23:00.50 | purl | ACTION laughs as amro gets Adys in a headlock, screaming 'Say Uncle!' |
| 23:00.50 | Shirik | lua> return "\1" |
| 23:05.58 | Adys | ~whalebot shirik |
| 23:06.10 | amro | !dbc ----- |
| 23:06.14 | Shirik | wait |
| 23:06.15 | Shirik | I figured it out |
| 23:06.23 | Shirik | yes yes |
| 23:06.25 | Shirik | that should do it |
| 23:06.27 | amro | !dbc 0.dbc |
| 23:06.27 | Adys | CRITICAL: Internal error (unrecoverable) |
| 23:06.33 | amro | that's how you do it |
| 23:06.37 | Shirik | no |
| 23:06.39 | Shirik | I figured out another way |
| 23:06.49 | Adys | Im still waiting shirik |
| 23:06.53 | Lopeppeppy | That didn't take long. |
| 23:06.56 | Shirik | it will take a few minutes |
| 23:07.00 | Shirik | due to the way it works |
| 23:07.08 | Shirik | I also have to be careful cause it could flood me off |
| 23:07.11 | Adys | you chargin' your lazer? |
| 23:09.57 | Adys | hahah. |
| 23:09.59 | Adys | look i ddos'd shirik. |
| 23:10.15 | *** join/#wowuidev cog|away_ (~cogwheel@99-33-83-160.lightspeed.plalca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 23:10.49 | *** join/#wowuidev Shirik (~mpdelbuon@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik) |
| 23:10.49 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 23:10.57 | amro | now I know how to crash a Shirik. |
| 23:11.03 | Shirik | I killed myself |
| 23:11.07 | Shirik | I knew it was going to happen |
| 23:11.16 | amro | suicide attack? |
| 23:11.21 | amro | off to gitmo with you |
| 23:11.23 | Adys | Shirik: I hope your butt isn't too sore for getting it hard in by python |
| 23:11.25 | amro | it's not far from daytona |
| 23:11.32 | Shirik | no it's difficult to do that attack against addybot |
| 23:11.43 | Shirik | I have to keep addybot so busy that he won't respond to a ping |
| 23:11.51 | Shirik | but to do that, I have to be busy myself |
| 23:12.06 | Shirik | I went a little too busy |
| 23:12.22 | amro | or, you could do this |
| 23:12.24 | amro | !dbc 0.dbc |
| 23:12.24 | Adys | CRITICAL: Internal error (unrecoverable) |
| 23:12.28 | Shirik | so? |
| 23:12.31 | Shirik | who cares |
| 23:12.34 | *** join/#wowuidev BWMerlin (~chatzilla@CPE-60-226-106-178.qld.bigpond.net.au) |
| 23:12.47 | Adys | I think Shirik is just jealous |
| 23:12.48 | amro | it locks him up for about 5 seconds |
| 23:12.55 | Shirik | it does? |
| 23:13.06 | amro | so you can keep him from responding to ping without getting flooded |
| 23:13.15 | Shirik | he seemed to respond right away |
| 23:13.24 | amro | afterward, needs to reinit |
| 23:13.31 | Shirik | huh |
| 23:14.19 | Shirik | !dbc 0.dbc |
| 23:14.19 | Adys | Couldn't preload: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/var/www/caches/caches/11685/enGB/0.dbc' |
| 23:14.19 | Shirik | fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu |
| 23:14.25 | amro | fast fix there Adys |
| 23:14.27 | *** join/#wowuidev Kazie (~Kazie@port207.ds1-vg.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 23:14.31 | Adys | i didnt do anything |
| 23:14.40 | Adys | Shirik just fails at bugging |
| 23:15.06 | shi | !dbc 0.dbc |
| 23:15.13 | shi | o.O |
| 23:15.26 | shi | !dbc 0.dbc |
| 23:15.31 | Adys | I filter against dumb |
| 23:15.34 | Adys | that, or you're not identified |
| 23:15.44 | Shirik | I am definitely identified otherwise I couldn't keep this name |
| 23:16.08 | Dewin | I like the error message |
| 23:16.55 | *** join/#wowuidev cbreak (~cbreak@80-219-13-251.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 23:20.09 | Adys | Results for the night: Shirik: negative score - Python: 10/10 |
| 23:20.19 | Shirik | negative |
| 23:20.33 | Adys | thats what i said |
| 23:20.43 | Adys | ~shirik-- |
| 23:21.34 | bleeter | kicks Fisker |
| 23:21.36 | Adys | it also looks like he still hasnt figured out i filter out forward slashes. |
| 23:21.45 | *** join/#wowuidev zenzelezz (~zenzelezz@cm-84.212.249.234.getinternet.no) |
| 23:21.45 | Adys | or spaces. |
| 23:22.01 | *** join/#wowuidev Heather (~pirate@174-27-32-115.bois.qwest.net) |
| 23:30.47 | *** join/#wowuidev Trela (~Alexia@user-24-214-136-218.knology.net) |
| 23:34.59 | Shirik | lua> return "\8" |
| 23:34.59 | lua_bot | Shirik: |
| 23:36.23 | cbreak | lua> return [[\8]] |
| 23:36.23 | lua_bot | cbreak: \8 |
| 23:36.29 | cbreak | wins |
| 23:37.07 | Shirik | that's not what I wanted cbreak... |
| 23:38.17 | Shirik | lua> return "\127" |
| 23:38.18 | lua_bot | Shirik: |
| 23:39.00 | *** join/#wowuidev Gotai (~Gotai@ip54546435.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) |
| 23:51.15 | *** join/#wowuidev Adys (~Adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 23:59.15 | eXemplar | lua> return "\10\13PRIVMSG #wowuidev hi" |
| 23:59.16 | lua_bot | eXemplar: PRIVMSG #wowuidev hi |
| 23:59.21 | eXemplar | :( |
| 23:59.43 | Shirik | you're about a year and a half too late |
