| 00:01.05 | Kraps | ~60 +95 |
| 00:01.06 | purl | 155 |
| 00:01.24 | Kraps | wat |
| 00:02.25 | DWSR | MATH MOFO, DO YOU KNOW IT? |
| 00:02.34 | Kraps | i'll never get 2 pc t10 |
| 00:02.37 | Lunessa | SAY WHAT ONE MORE TIME! |
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| 00:03.23 | Kraps | y so caps? |
| 00:04.20 | Ginji | pulp fiction ftw |
| 00:04.24 | DWSR | Lunessa: CAPSLOCK MOFO, DO YOU KNOW WHERE IT IS? |
| 00:04.30 | DWSR | I DON'T |
| 00:05.05 | Lunessa | Fresh ground coffee? We'd have been fine with some Taster's Choice shit. |
| 00:05.20 | Ginji | capslock is cruise control for cool but even with cruise control you still have to steer |
| 00:05.28 | Kraps | so i should just buy gems |
| 00:05.32 | DWSR | Slanderous lies. |
| 00:05.32 | kd3 | hugs starbucks' overpriced via crap |
| 00:05.34 | Ginji | Get honor |
| 00:05.37 | Ginji | Buy gems, win |
| 00:05.53 | DWSR | ~fail Ginji |
| 00:05.54 | purl | Ginji: FAIL! |
| 00:05.57 | DWSR | 1. Get honor |
| 00:05.59 | DWSR | 2. Buy gems. |
| 00:06.01 | DWSR | 3. ???? |
| 00:06.03 | DWSR | 4. Profit! |
| 00:06.04 | Ginji | :P |
| 00:06.14 | Kraps | talking EoT here |
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| 00:06.26 | kd3 | ah crap |
| 00:06.26 | DWSR | eot? |
| 00:06.28 | Ginji | WG is where it's at! |
| 00:06.37 | Kraps | cant get honor for it |
| 00:06.37 | kd3 | I get to work outside wednesday |
| 00:06.42 | kd3 | 100% chance of t-storms |
| 00:06.44 | Lunessa | " ... but I'm tryin' real hard, to be the shepherd." |
| 00:06.48 | kd3 | curses mother nature |
| 00:07.05 | Lunessa | kd3: Sucks. In the extreme. |
| 00:07.12 | Kraps | EMBLEMS MOFO, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THEY ARE? |
| 00:07.24 | DWSR | Nope. |
| 00:07.31 | Corrodias | so guys, what's the word? does SC2 let you play without an internet connection, or did Activision/Blizzard successfully pull an Ubisoft? |
| 00:08.48 | alestane | No idea about single-player. |
| 00:09.04 | A-KO | yeah it's only MP right now |
| 00:09.07 | alestane | Multiplayer requires a battle.net authentication to log in. |
| 00:09.17 | A-KO | from what I'm hearing about it, you'll require to logon to battle net |
| 00:09.20 | DWSR | No LAN, though, right? |
| 00:09.21 | A-KO | Steam already does this anyway |
| 00:09.45 | A-KO | they're not the only company to require a login :P |
| 00:09.51 | Corrodias | Steam lets you launch a game if you're offline. |
| 00:10.04 | Corrodias | i don't know if it prevents the game from communicating. |
| 00:11.08 | DWSR | no. |
| 00:11.10 | Corrodias | but i can find out! |
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| 00:11.38 | alestane | http://www.pixelqi.com/blog1/ |
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| 00:13.04 | Corrodias | wild |
| 00:18.54 | NeoTron | Corrodias: it only lets you start a game when offline if you previously restarted steam in "offline mode" |
| 00:19.05 | NeoTron | if you lose your connection while steam is online, there's no way to make it go offline |
| 00:19.09 | NeoTron | without being online to do it |
| 00:19.33 | NeoTron | which is annoying as heck (if it isn't already fixed that is) |
| 00:19.40 | Corrodias | restarting steam while it's unable to connect lets you start in offline mode |
| 00:19.51 | DWSR | No it doesn't. |
| 00:19.58 | Corrodias | it does. i'm doing it right now. |
| 00:20.11 | DWSR | You using the beta client? |
| 00:20.18 | DWSR | Because the last time I tried the release client, it didn't do that. |
| 00:20.23 | Corrodias | not right now, i'm not |
| 00:20.33 | Corrodias | if it's a new feature, it's about damn time |
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| 00:21.16 | DWSR | Meh. |
| 00:21.25 | DWSR | there might be a specific set of ocnditions that you have to meet in order to do that. |
| 00:21.35 | NeoTron | it didn't |
| 00:21.47 | NeoTron | at least if you hadn't previously done it before |
| 00:21.53 | NeoTron | it needed some "offline profile" thing |
| 00:21.54 | Corrodias | there, dragon age didn't want to launch while steam was offline (blocked by my firewall), but after i let it launch once online, it works offline. the game succeeds in connecting to my EA account, meanwhile. |
| 00:22.28 | NeoTron | problem is, when all of a sudden my connection dropped and it hasn't dropped before, I was entirelt fubared. |
| 00:23.22 | Jerub | Corrodias: i think you have to have been in offline mode while online at some point in the past. |
| 00:23.52 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster or Seerah|away there are typos in the instructions for MyMedia.txt file in the SharedMedia package. |
| 00:24.01 | Corrodias | hmm, that may be. a strange limitation. it's not hard to do once, but knowing that you have to do it once is not to be expected. |
| 00:24.08 | DWSR | right |
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| 00:24.23 | DWSR | Corrodias: I've had times when it won't let me restart to go offline. |
| 00:24.50 | Corrodias | it refused to exit? |
| 00:25.01 | DWSR | Corrodias: No, when it won't log back in. |
| 00:25.22 | DWSR | I have no active 'net connection and Steam refused to start because it can't find the Steam servers. |
| 00:26.03 | Corrodias | is this another case of not having gone to offline mode before while connected? |
| 00:26.12 | DWSR | Probably. |
| 00:26.18 | DWSR | Don't remember, tbph. |
| 00:26.52 | Corrodias | i agree that it's unreasonable for it not to prepare the offline stuff every time you connect |
| 00:27.05 | theorbtwo | shrugs. |
| 00:27.28 | theorbtwo | The thing is that offline mode and mobility are kind of mutually incompatable. |
| 00:27.37 | theorbtwo | It defaults to prefering mobility over offline mode. |
| 00:28.15 | theorbtwo | That is, I've got two machines, and I can freely run Steam on either of them, without effort. If I switch to offline mode, I can't use the other one. |
| 00:28.27 | theorbtwo | (I think. I've not actually tried it that I can recall.) |
| 00:28.48 | DWSR | theorbtwo: you can, actually, i think. |
| 00:29.18 | Corrodias | hard to tell... of course, i do have another computer here i could test that with |
| 00:29.29 | DWSR | mhm. |
| 00:29.58 | Corrodias | if it is able to switch to offline mode while it cannot connect, then they should be able to do so independently. |
| 00:30.50 | DWSR | can't you be logged into steam in 2 places at once? |
| 00:31.04 | DWSR | wait, nvm. |
| 00:31.08 | DWSR | I'm being a NAT. |
| 00:31.11 | Corrodias | perhaps, but i doubt it. |
| 00:31.22 | DWSR | s/being/behind/ |
| 00:32.56 | Corrodias | l4d2 runs and seems to perform with limited internet functionality, no big surprise as it's integrated pretty heavily with steam for its multiplayer features |
| 00:33.32 | Adys | oh my god. |
| 00:33.37 | Adys | what the *fuck* |
| 00:33.37 | Corrodias | struggling to think of games i can reliably test internet with because multiplayer is something i typically just don't do |
| 00:33.52 | Adys | watching some random mmo-report on their flash player |
| 00:34.13 | Adys | it sends over 3500 GETs |
| 00:35.26 | Corrodias | ME2's "cerberus network" feature functions okay |
| 00:37.26 | Jerub | Adys: win |
| 00:59.19 | Dashkal | headdesks |
| 00:59.33 | Dashkal | Why must mysql takes so bloddy long to import a .sql file from the command-line? |
| 01:00.06 | DWSR | MYSQL? FAST? |
| 01:00.07 | DWSR | rofls |
| 01:00.11 | Dashkal | sighs |
| 01:00.22 | Dashkal | I didn't pick it. I just have to work with it. |
| 01:00.27 | NeoTron | Corrodias: the baffling thing with that is the lack of automatically downloading new dlc/content |
| 01:00.41 | Jerub | Dashkal: probably because it's building the index |
| 01:00.50 | Dashkal | NeoTron: Agreed. Not to mention the "new content available" thing seems to be broken. It's always visible for me. |
| 01:00.54 | Jerub | Dashkal: if you do it right it should be fast to import then building the index will be faster too |
| 01:00.58 | NeoTron | Dashkal: indeed it is |
| 01:01.42 | Dashkal | Jerub: I have no idea what "do it right" means in this context. I'm not really a db guy. Could you point me in the right direction in terms of docs so I can avoid this pain in a week when I must do it again? |
| 01:02.34 | Jerub | Dashkal: i'm no longer a mysql person. |
| 01:02.41 | Dashkal | Or is it more about how the db itself was constructed? (In which case I'm screwed, not my schema) |
| 01:02.48 | Dashkal | ahh well |
| 01:02.49 | Jerub | Dashkal: i would google for "fast data inserts mysql" |
| 01:03.13 | Jerub | Dashkal: you can basically "turn off" the indexes for a period of time, that's the best thing to do. |
| 01:03.49 | Dashkal | Ahh, that google did it. Thank you muchly |
| 01:04.11 | Dashkal | Yeah, exactly. I'll need to write some php code for the upload, but this will definitely help |
| 01:04.53 | Dashkal | This database is bizarre. I have a combination of MyIASM tables an InnoDB tables for some reason. |
| 01:05.33 | Jerub | Dashkal: that can be for one of two reasons: a) hubris, b) speed. |
| 01:05.43 | Jerub | i'm betting on hubris |
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| 01:07.24 | Dashkal | One word: Drupal |
| 01:07.40 | Dashkal | actually, 2: Old Drupal |
| 01:07.51 | Dashkal | I'm trying to update a site. Loads of fun |
| 01:07.52 | ArrowmasterClass | Dashkal: just bitch and whine until you are allowed to switch to a proper DB server |
| 01:07.55 | Lunessa | Actually three, Old Bad Drupal |
| 01:07.55 | Jerub | tee hee |
| 01:08.11 | Jerub | at least it's not wordpress |
| 01:08.13 | Dashkal | No arguments. Just trying to make it "less bad" insofar as that's not a contradiction |
| 01:08.25 | Dashkal | oh *shudder* I'd use Drupal in a heartbeat over wordpress. |
| 01:08.31 | ArrowmasterClass | nuke it from orbit |
| 01:08.42 | theorbtwo | Contarywise, maybe old tables were MyIASM and new ones got created as InnoDB, but the old tables were never changed. |
| 01:08.54 | Dashkal | Entirely possible |
| 01:09.39 | Lunessa | At least you guys aren't saddled with Oracles "Portal" *HATE* |
| 01:10.22 | Dashkal | phpmyadmin is bad enough. It'll quite happily give me incomplete database dumps with no warning |
| 01:11.05 | Dashkal | It's import/export cannot cope with databases much larger than 5 or so megs |
| 01:15.54 | Adys | Someone help me out, I'm having a complete blank, an adjective expressing how an action or entity is useless because it has already been done, is already present or already exists |
| 01:16.20 | Shadowed | "An Adys" |
| 01:16.30 | Adys | I already exist elsewhere? |
| 01:17.03 | Shadowed | Reinventing the wheel? |
| 01:17.03 | Corrodias | redundant |
| 01:17.07 | Adys | thanks Corrodias |
| 01:19.46 | Jerub | Adys: also, NIH |
| 01:19.58 | Adys | eh? |
| 01:20.13 | Jerub | Adys: 'not invented here' is a syndrome. |
| 01:20.21 | Adys | yes but not an adjective :P |
| 01:20.31 | Adys | i was looking for redundant, kept blanking |
| 01:20.37 | Jerub | Adys: it means having a developer or team of developers who insist on inventing stuff that already exists, an orgy of redundancy. |
| 01:21.02 | alestane | Adys: Superfluous |
| 01:21.14 | Adys | really, I was looking for redundant. |
| 01:21.21 | Adys | ~corrodias++ |
| 01:21.43 | Shadowed | ~adys-- |
| 01:21.44 | Jerub | alestane: that's rundunant. |
| 01:21.48 | Adys | ~shadowed-- |
| 01:21.55 | Shadowed | ~shadowed++ |
| 01:21.57 | Jerub | alestane: because Corrodias already gave a word. |
| 01:21.59 | Adys | ~adys++ |
| 01:22.03 | Shadowed | Purl is mean |
| 01:22.23 | Adys | ~purl++ |
| 01:23.18 | Shadowed | !purl |
| 01:23.19 | Shadowed | ~purl |
| 01:23.19 | purl | rumour has it, purl is a piece of very bad coding. |
| 01:23.22 | Shadowed | hmm |
| 01:23.23 | Adys | ~infobot |
| 01:23.24 | purl | it has been said that infobot is The coolest, or a decepticon |
| 01:23.25 | Shadowed | ~karma purl |
| 01:23.25 | purl | purl has karma of 39 |
| 01:23.33 | Adys | ~karma shadowed |
| 01:23.33 | purl | shadowed has karma of 4 |
| 01:23.37 | Adys | wat |
| 01:23.38 | Shadowed | what how do I have 4 |
| 01:23.41 | Adys | ~karma adys |
| 01:23.41 | purl | adys has karma of 6 |
| 01:23.45 | Adys | phew! |
| 01:23.45 | Jerub | ~jerub |
| 01:23.50 | Shadowed | ~adys-- |
| 01:23.51 | Adys | ~emulate bleeter |
| 01:23.52 | purl | ACTION rant RANT rant waaa MOAR COFFEE <sub>GOOD IDEA</sub>rant waa MOAR COFFEE rant rant MOAR MOAR <blink><h1>terribad idea</h1></blink> rant |
| 01:23.53 | Shadowed | ~karma Adys |
| 01:23.53 | purl | adys has karma of 5 |
| 01:23.56 | Shadowed | nice |
| 01:24.01 | Addybot | ~adys++ |
| 01:24.07 | Shadowed | Adys it's not limited by name |
| 01:24.12 | Adys | ~karma adys |
| 01:24.12 | purl | adys has karma of 6 |
| 01:24.14 | Shadowed | It looks like at least |
| 01:24.17 | Adys | :P |
| 01:24.22 | Shadowed | ~adys-- |
| 01:24.24 | Shadowed | ~karma Adys |
| 01:24.24 | purl | adys has karma of 5 |
| 01:24.26 | Shadowed | see |
| 01:24.32 | Shadowed | No throttling! |
| 01:24.34 | theorbtwo | I do often wonder about purl's history -- there's an infobot in the perl community named purl, but they don't seem to share a codebase. |
| 01:24.35 | Adys | I will roast you at blizzcon |
| 01:24.38 | Adys | ~shadowed-- |
| 01:24.44 | Shadowed | Cairenn will protect mer |
| 01:24.47 | Shadowed | s/mer/me/ |
| 01:24.51 | theorbtwo | It seems like an awful large coincidence, if it is one. |
| 01:25.12 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 01:25.25 | Adys | ~cairenn++ |
| 01:25.31 | Shadowed | Hello Cairenn! |
| 01:25.38 | Cairenn | hi |
| 01:25.43 | Adys | if I bribe her maybe she wont protect you |
| 01:25.53 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5488635/shameless-subliminal-world-of-warcraft-advertising-discovered-in-gnomeregan |
| 01:26.12 | Adys | someone needs to look up the definition of subliminal |
| 01:26.26 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5488592/why-modern-video-game-armies-lack-female-troops |
| 01:26.36 | Adys | someone needs to look up the definition of female |
| 01:27.15 | Kraps | Adys: i would link the wiki article but its NSFW |
| 01:27.28 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5488536/the-dangers-of-owning-a-portal-gun-in-real-life |
| 01:27.45 | Adys | Kraps: er, what? |
| 01:28.10 | Corrodias | http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/activision-beheads-infinity-ward-is-blizzard-next/ |
| 01:29.29 | Adys | right |
| 01:30.04 | Adys | ~rot13 xaxrv |
| 01:30.04 | purl | knkei |
| 01:32.58 | Adys | ~rot13 y |
| 01:32.58 | purl | l |
| 01:41.47 | Dashkal | Jerub: Thanks again for the help. This just got a ton more sane. |
| 01:42.38 | Adys | interesting |
| 01:42.49 | Adys | letters correspond to each other every 7 character |
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| 02:00.29 | Adys | Dammit those guys are assholes |
| 02:01.29 | Kraps | look before you leap eh? |
| 02:03.03 | Adys | theres multiple blocks in the text |
| 02:03.21 | Adys | each shifted with a different alphabet |
| 02:03.35 | Adys | polypolyalphabetism >> |
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| 02:08.58 | Adys | hmm |
| 02:09.01 | Adys | 51-char blocks |
| 02:17.14 | Adys | hey there! i hope you liked this vidvx! i'm very very sorry that vy eeeuk vsgg tpdb gdpcrzr jixz, ziu jixz fot dpiogb qt ek udlu fou skubrjje qshj xejcyeya. |
| 02:17.16 | Adys | =( |
| 02:17.38 | Gnarfoz | ouch |
| 02:18.38 | Adys | it's teasing me |
| 02:22.23 | Gnarfoz | you know the solution is in the comments on kotaku, though, right? |
| 02:23.32 | Adys | eh? |
| 02:23.39 | Adys | meh whatever, this is more fun :P |
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| 02:25.34 | kd3 | whee, a preview of the mastery system |
| 02:25.35 | kd3 | finally |
| 02:28.55 | Lunessa | Aroo? |
| 02:29.21 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=23614404862&sid=1 |
| 02:30.00 | Adys | OH |
| 02:30.00 | shifuimam | are multi level arrays handled like Array["level1"]["level2"] etc |
| 02:30.03 | Adys | JERKS |
| 02:30.18 | Adys | they pull a char before each exclamation mark |
| 02:31.01 | kd3 | shifuimam, yar |
| 02:31.42 | shifuimam | k thanks |
| 02:32.34 | Lunessa | Silly me... I looked in the Cataclysm forum. |
| 02:32.46 | shifuimam | does the parent of a new child have to exist before that child can be created? |
| 02:33.04 | shifuimam | e.g. i have to do Array["level1"] = {} before i can do Array["level1"]["level2"] = whatever |
| 02:35.12 | Adys | Gnarfoz: got it |
| 02:35.31 | Adys | 8, 22, 7, 7, 0, 9, 12 |
| 02:35.38 | Adys | with a character pulled every exclamation mark |
| 02:35.52 | cbreak | shifuimam: of course |
| 02:35.52 | Lunessa | "Regeneration will also probably be determined by whether you are in or out of combat, and not the âfive-second rule. " Please, please, please. |
| 02:36.03 | cbreak | you can't store a table into a table that doesn't exist |
| 02:37.07 | cbreak | I remember timing Clearcasting frostbolts with arcane missiles to get a free 5 second rule tick or two |
| 02:37.12 | cbreak | that was years ago... |
| 02:37.28 | cbreak | now I am chain casting arcane blasts and arcane missiles without even thinking much about mana... how times change :) |
| 02:39.19 | Lunessa | The 5-second rule was designed and added to make healing require some decision making other than "whack my biggest or fastest heal over and over" but healing has really become "whack the biggest/fastest heal" anyway. |
| 02:41.15 | ZorbaTHut | it's tough to balance. blizzard really wants to space between "don't have enough gear to do it" and "absolutely trivial in my gear" to be as wide as possible, but when they're increasing mana regen, mana pool, healing speed, healing efficiency, all at once, that space ends up being pretty damn small |
| 02:41.48 | ZorbaTHut | I think a lot of the Cataclysm rebalance is a result of that - I'm strongly expecting that gear will have flat-out fewer stats on it overall, which, with how multiplicative WoW stats tend to be, will help matters. |
| 02:42.34 | Adys | Gnarfoz: http://dpaste.com/169723/ |
| 02:42.49 | Lunessa | And as Ghostcrawler said, they're not worried about the size of the numbers until they have to use scientific notation to display how much agility is on an item. |
| 02:44.04 | cbreak | I've already seen items with over 1.2e2 int |
| 02:44.16 | ZorbaTHut | true, although I wouldn't be surprised at all if they decided to re-linearize the Classic/BC/Wrath itemization curve in the process |
| 02:44.39 | Lunessa | To be fair, it's very hard in game design to create an encounter which is interesting and challenging which doesn't devolve into the same limited number of options for players to take. And anything which helps streamline the game so I can focus on encounters vs playing World of GearCraft is a good change. |
| 02:45.04 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, in a lot of ways the only reason we're complaining about the stuff WoW does badly is because WoW does all the rest of the game so well |
| 02:45.13 | cbreak | getting new gear is one of the main pull factors of raiding |
| 02:45.15 | ZorbaTHut | they've raised their own bar, and are having trouble reaching it |
| 02:45.28 | cbreak | in my guild, there's a frightening number of people who prefer to farm easy bosses instead of learning hard ones |
| 02:45.34 | Lunessa | I've played a lot of bad games. Some for as long as I've played WoW. None have been as much fun. |
| 02:46.25 | Lunessa | The part of the game that defeats me - repeatedly - is the social boss - team-building, recruitment, social networking. |
| 02:46.30 | ZorbaTHut | cbreak, people are scared of challenge |
| 02:46.36 | ZorbaTHut | challenge implies failure, and failure is terrifying. |
| 02:47.03 | cbreak | maybe I should stop using caps when speaking with them about their shortcommings in the previous wipe :/ |
| 02:47.21 | Jerub | i've been playing wow and sc2 since adys gave me a key, and i've gotta say i like them both for different reasons. |
| 02:47.31 | Jerub | the best thing about wow is that it's not zero-sum |
| 02:47.32 | cbreak | gah... |
| 02:47.38 | cbreak | I want SC2 mac version! |
| 02:47.39 | Jerub | and that's the best thing about raiding, it's very much not zero-sum. |
| 02:47.41 | ZorbaTHut | mu current guild spent a month and a half wiping on yogg-saron and refusing to try any hardmodes |
| 02:47.44 | ZorbaTHut | even 10-man hard modes |
| 02:47.46 | Jerub | cbreak: i built a pc. |
| 02:47.52 | ZorbaTHut | it was like, guys, I'm pretty sure we could do FL+1 at least |
| 02:48.04 | Lunessa | I prefer to say things like "Brief Fight cap: ok, let's do this." Then after the wipe, "Ok, that was interesting. Now we've seen it and have a better idea what all that means. Let's do this." |
| 02:48.23 | ZorbaTHut | me and a few friends managed to half-pug FL+2 and the GL got annoyed at us for wasting time on something that wasn't yogg-saron :( |
| 02:48.35 | cbreak | Jerub: I couldn't do that. My electronic abilities are barely enough to combine a few half and full adders to some bare-bones computation grid |
| 02:48.39 | cbreak | but building a computer :/ |
| 02:48.47 | cbreak | I stay with my prebuilt ones |
| 02:49.49 | Lunessa | cbreak: You're probably getting a better deal for the dollar that way anyway. You get all the parts that "build your own" enthusiasts always forget to include in their price. |
| 02:50.08 | Jerub | ... price/ |
| 02:50.11 | cbreak | yeah... or worse forget to include in their computer :) |
| 02:50.25 | Jerub | i bought my first piece of computer hardware last week for this computer, a video card. |
| 02:50.28 | Jerub | everything else was gratis. |
| 02:50.28 | Lunessa | And you get software and support usually. |
| 02:50.35 | Adys | i cant believe i just wasted half a hour on that shitty decryption thing |
| 02:50.39 | ZorbaTHut | I build my own computers 'cause it's a process of communing with the computer. plus if shit gets fucked, I can un-fuck it. |
| 02:50.42 | Jerub | oh, and windows 7? I high recommend it. |
| 02:50.54 | cbreak | yuck |
| 02:50.58 | Jerub | no, for reals. |
| 02:51.00 | ZorbaTHut | also my requirements are odd and I'd be paying through the nose for 'em, while picking up a bunch of worthless junk that I didn't care about. |
| 02:51.04 | Adys | you gotta be high to recommend windows you say? |
| 02:51.05 | cbreak | windows? build your own OS! |
| 02:51.14 | Jerub | i installed windows 7 then i installed starcraft 2 then i played starcraft 2. |
| 02:51.18 | cbreak | it's cheaper that way :) |
| 02:51.19 | ZorbaTHut | yeah win7 is actually good. |
| 02:51.24 | Jerub | the 'fucking with drivers' step was missed |
| 02:51.25 | Adys | OS? Use some butterflies |
| 02:51.26 | Adys | DAMMIT. |
| 02:51.32 | cbreak | and if you build your own OS, it's like communicatiing with it :) |
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| 02:51.43 | Adys | ~emulate bleeter |
| 02:51.44 | purl | ACTION rant RANT rant waaa MOAR COFFEE <sub>GOOD IDEA</sub>rant waa MOAR COFFEE rant rant MOAR MOAR <blink><h1>terribad idea</h1></blink> rant |
| 02:51.44 | Lunessa | ZorbaTHut: I usually build one when I want specific things at specific prices and I'm willing to wait and build slowly. Otherwise, the $800 pre-built is usually a pretty fucking sweet deal. |
| 02:51.59 | ZorbaTHut | lunessa, yeah, the problem with $800 pre-built is that it can be a beast to upgrade later on |
| 02:52.21 | ZorbaTHut | my current computer had the PSU and GPU swapped a few months back, thereby extending the life of the computer by probably a year or two |
| 02:52.24 | Lunessa | ZorbaTHut: agreed, but for $800 I'm probably replacing it later anyway. |
| 02:52.31 | cbreak | I have an approximately 3000$ prebuilt :) |
| 02:52.32 | Corrodias | upgrades are overrated. just buy a new one 2 years down the road. |
| 02:52.41 | cbreak | it's very nicely upgradeable |
| 02:52.46 | Lunessa | My computers tend to last 5+ years. |
| 02:53.11 | ZorbaTHut | I'm waiting for cheap 4gb RAM sticks :P |
| 02:53.13 | Corrodias | my computers are never very upgradable. the CPU always needs an upgrade, and for that i need a new motherboard, with some new format of memory |
| 02:53.19 | Corrodias | and at that point it's not an upgrade any more. |
| 02:53.48 | cbreak | my computers usually last 4 years |
| 02:53.54 | bleeter | ohai Adys :P |
| 02:54.17 | Lunessa | My current box is a hand-me-down from a buddy who upgraded to some monstrous machine - I've upgraded the video card, the HDD, the DVD drive and RAM a couple of times all for cheap. But next time I'm going for a monstrous machine myself, so I'll build it from scratch. |
| 02:54.21 | Corrodias | same for me! :D i just don't replace anything until that 4 year mark |
| 02:54.35 | Corrodias | actually, i might have fallen into a 3 year cycle lately |
| 02:54.41 | Jerub | need moar ram |
| 02:54.51 | Jerub | never need better cpus |
| 02:55.04 | Jerub | not after peak cpu |
| 02:55.08 | Jerub | moar ram |
| 02:55.13 | Corrodias | i need a better cpu. :P |
| 02:55.20 | Lunessa | my current mobo won't take more than 4gb of RAM. So... yeah, need a new box to get more. But I can get a lot going in 4gb of RAM |
| 02:55.52 | A-KO | I'm at 8GB and it's not quite enough atm |
| 02:55.54 | A-KO | :( |
| 02:56.00 | cbreak | I am happy with my current machine. I rarely manage to peak all the CPUs, and I have enough memory for everything too |
| 02:56.01 | Lunessa | And I not-so-secretly lust for an i7 CPU |
| 02:56.14 | A-KO | Unfortunately I've been spoiled by all the super machines I get to play with at work |
| 02:56.49 | A-KO | so now I want to build out a nice raid storage set for my network, built on a system with a SAS raid card with a bunch of sata drives in a raid 6 |
| 02:56.49 | Jerub | anyone know if steam on the mac is universal? |
| 02:56.54 | cbreak | what do you do to use up 8gb of memory? |
| 02:57.00 | cbreak | firefox with more than 10 tabs open? |
| 02:57.04 | Jerub | my mac can take 64gb of ram, but uh, i can't afford that |
| 02:57.06 | A-KO | lol |
| 02:57.09 | Lunessa | A-KO: Most of what I do (web video, video games, web surfing, e-mail, media playing... ) doesn't need too much RAM. |
| 02:57.11 | A-KO | right now I'm building VMs |
| 02:57.17 | cbreak | Jerub: I bet 1 gold that it won't run pre 10.5, and not on PPC |
| 02:57.21 | A-KO | I'm at around 85% ram usage atm |
| 02:57.34 | A-KO | 6.81GB ram used |
| 02:57.56 | A-KO | I don't need it all the time but it's damn nice to have when I do, that's for sure (times like these) |
| 02:58.00 | Jerub | A-KO: most of that will be disk cache surely. |
| 02:58.10 | Jerub | oh, wait, what kernel? windows? |
| 02:58.12 | cbreak | VMWare is one of the few things that can use up my memory too |
| 02:58.17 | Lunessa | Yeah, Vent, Chrome, Trillian Astra and two copies of WoW is about the most I ever have going. |
| 02:58.18 | A-KO | yes, windows |
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| 02:58.48 | A-KO | cbreak: yeah, it's useful when I have it, but not used much to that degree. |
| 02:58.58 | Lunessa | And I do have three computers, so I can always off-load a task to another box if I need ot. |
| 02:59.01 | Lunessa | to |
| 02:59.23 | cbreak | considered getting a solid state boot disk/swap? |
| 02:59.25 | cbreak | I did |
| 02:59.31 | cbreak | but they are quite pricy :/ |
| 02:59.47 | Kraps | ITS HERE http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/23614404862-mastery-system-preview.html |
| 03:01.07 | A-KO | I've got an SSD for my primary, but they are a real pain in the ass |
| 03:01.35 | cbreak | because of their "fragmentation"? |
| 03:02.11 | A-KO | no, because of the issues surrounding their usability in raid sets, driver compatibility, things like that. Then there's the whole TRIM thing |
| 03:02.31 | A-KO | some drivers support TRIM, some don't. Some drives support it, some don't. Some controllers do it only in certain modes, etc. |
| 03:02.42 | A-KO | using them in a RAID set is a bad idea as a result of trim issues |
| 03:03.22 | shifuimam | okay so i have this array/table: http://pastebin.com/GV1JWVMB |
| 03:03.44 | shifuimam | when i use ipairs to iterate through it, it skips the last item in the array, whjich is [0] = "General" |
| 03:04.41 | cbreak | I don't see the benefit of raids appart from fast failure recovery |
| 03:05.01 | cbreak | haven't seen a hard disk failure myself though, so they appear unlikely |
| 03:05.13 | shifuimam | hahahah |
| 03:05.28 | shifuimam | i've seen enough hard disk failures to warrant using a RAID 5 for my file server |
| 03:05.29 | Kraps | Strength of Wrynn and Hellscream's Warsong now also boost the effect of damage absorption spells. they changed it for disc priests :D |
| 03:05.40 | shifuimam | if your data is stored on one single drive and drive fails, you're fucked |
| 03:05.41 | ZorbaTHut | "You will also gain a small amount of Mastery by wearing gear of your intended armor type (such as plate for paladins)" I love it when Blizzard does exactly I keep telling people they're going to have to |
| 03:06.18 | cbreak | not really |
| 03:06.24 | Adys | breaking news, casuals will take over the game |
| 03:06.25 | Adys | more at 11 |
| 03:06.30 | cbreak | if my data is stored on a single drive, which fails, I still have the backups |
| 03:06.35 | ZorbaTHut | omg casuals |
| 03:06.37 | ZorbaTHut | they will ruin my game |
| 03:06.39 | shifuimam | i mean if you don't have backups |
| 03:06.45 | shifuimam | if your data is on a single drive period |
| 03:07.02 | cbreak | if you don't have backups, you're fucked with raid too |
| 03:07.03 | shifuimam | if you're syncing your drive/data with a backup drive, technically taht's a raid |
| 03:07.14 | cbreak | as soon as someone "accidentially" deletes his important file |
| 03:07.17 | shifuimam | it's RAID 0 (mirroring), but it's a raid |
| 03:07.29 | cbreak | RAID is Redundant array of independent disks |
| 03:07.38 | cbreak | backups are not an array, they are much more loosely coupled |
| 03:07.49 | shifuimam | oh wait mirroring is RAID 1 |
| 03:07.59 | shifuimam | RAID 0 is striping |
| 03:08.09 | cbreak | yeah. the 0 stands for no redundanccy :) |
| 03:08.16 | Adys | I prefer raid25 myself, though I miss vanilla. |
| 03:08.18 | cbreak | (actually, it probably doesn't... :) |
| 03:08.52 | shifuimam | i have a raid 5 for my data on a server 2k8 box with volume shadow copy enabled in the event that a file gets corrupted and i need to go back to a previous version |
| 03:09.01 | shifuimam | if one of my hard drives physically fails, i'm covered |
| 03:09.20 | shifuimam | i have enough data that it'd be a bit expensive to also mirror it all onto another server |
| 03:09.59 | cbreak | I wouldn't trust shadowcopy |
| 03:10.13 | shifuimam | it's worked pretty well for me |
| 03:10.15 | cbreak | it's on the same disk, in the same case |
| 03:10.19 | shifuimam | but i also don't have file corruption issues |
| 03:10.34 | cbreak | the main cause for file corruption is the user |
| 03:10.43 | shifuimam | the only time i've actually needed it and used it so far is when my RoM savevariables file gets fucked for some reason |
| 03:10.47 | shifuimam | like a bad addon |
| 03:10.50 | cbreak | maybe second cause power failures or application crashes |
| 03:11.24 | shifuimam | i'm more concerned with physical disk failure than i am with a file getting messed up |
| 03:12.10 | cbreak | hmm... I should reboot again sometime soon |
| 03:12.46 | cbreak | or at least log out so it makes a backup from my home |
| 03:14.28 | shifuimam | so my array question never was answered.... |
| 03:14.30 | cbreak | that mastery system seems rather dull |
| 03:14.38 | cbreak | I answered it |
| 03:14.47 | cbreak | half an hour or so ago |
| 03:15.03 | cbreak | 03:35 |
| 03:15.24 | shifuimam | different question |
| 03:15.47 | shifuimam | this array: http://pastebin.com/GV1JWVMB - when i iterate through it with ipairs, the last item in the array isn |
| 03:15.53 | shifuimam | isn't read. |
| 03:16.10 | cbreak | that's normal |
| 03:16.17 | cbreak | ipairs just gets the nummeric part |
| 03:16.28 | shifuimam | how can i get both parts of the array? |
| 03:16.33 | cbreak | pairs |
| 03:16.36 | shifuimam | oh |
| 03:16.38 | cbreak | no ordering guarantee |
| 03:16.52 | shifuimam | shit, that's not going to work then |
| 03:17.22 | cbreak | why do you need nonarray indexes? |
| 03:17.25 | shifuimam | although i guess it's not really an issue. Group 0 is General, which is the default contact/friend group and can't be deleted or given a different ID |
| 03:17.40 | shifuimam | the number is teh ID of the group when it's created on hte player contact list on the server |
| 03:17.54 | shifuimam | it's important that the ID be retained in order to identify which group a contact belongs in, since that information is stored by group ID |
| 03:17.57 | cbreak | you can always make an ordered mapping table |
| 03:17.59 | shifuimam | and the ID is set based on the order the groups are created |
| 03:18.17 | cbreak | what do you need order for that? |
| 03:18.29 | cbreak | you have the ID |
| 03:18.35 | shifuimam | because i can't actually set the group ID |
| 03:18.47 | shifuimam | all i can do is create groups by name - CreateSocalGroup("Friend","MyGroupName") |
| 03:18.59 | shifuimam | so i need to make sure that every time the groups are created for a player, they're created in the same order |
| 03:19.16 | cbreak | you want them to keep the same ID? |
| 03:19.20 | shifuimam | yes. it has to. |
| 03:19.27 | cbreak | then make a mapping table |
| 03:19.30 | shifuimam | i can assign contacts to a group, but it's by group ID |
| 03:19.47 | shifuimam | not sure what that is :\ |
| 03:20.08 | cbreak | mappingTable = {0,1,2,3,4,5} |
| 03:20.10 | cbreak | thada |
| 03:20.37 | cbreak | for k,v in ipairs(mappingTable) do print(yourtable[v]) end |
| 03:20.51 | cbreak | prints your table in the order which you decide on in the mapping table |
| 03:20.54 | shifuimam | ahh |
| 03:20.56 | shifuimam | neat |
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| 03:20.58 | cbreak | works for all kinds of keys, not only numerics |
| 03:21.10 | cbreak | of course |
| 03:21.17 | cbreak | for your keys, you can do something dumb like |
| 03:21.26 | cbreak | for i=0,5 do |
| 03:21.38 | shifuimam | well, 0 is the last group |
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| 03:21.49 | shifuimam | i mean, in this case it doesn't *really* matter because the groupID of 0 always exists |
| 03:21.59 | shifuimam | no group a player creates can have an ID of 0 |
| 03:23.32 | cbreak | well, night :) |
| 03:23.38 | shifuimam | also wtf is up with pastebin looking like okcupid with all this hot pink shit |
| 03:23.51 | cbreak | make your own :) |
| 03:23.55 | cbreak | I did, it's fairly easy |
| 03:24.17 | shifuimam | eh |
| 03:24.20 | shifuimam | i have too much else to do |
| 03:36.33 | Kraps | just finished watching Law Abiding Citizen |
| 03:36.36 | Kraps | wow |
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| 03:41.24 | frontendloader | where might I find the documentation on the addon config panel thinger |
| 03:41.28 | frontendloader | in interface |
| 03:45.46 | frontendloader | not sure what to call it |
| 03:46.12 | kd3 | Interface/FrameXML/InterfaceOptionsFrame.lua/xml and InterfaceOptionsPanels.lua/xml |
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| 03:55.46 | frontendloader | found a wowwiki article on it with that |
| 03:55.47 | frontendloader | thanks |
| 03:56.16 | Seerah|away | Lunessa: are you talking the last release version or the alpha version in the wowace repo? |
| 03:56.17 | Arathros | noone might know the answer to what i can do to get info about what role the Unit has in LFG randoms like tank, healer, leader, and damage |
| 03:56.34 | Lunessa | Seerah|away: Release version, grabbed it from Curse. |
| 03:57.18 | Seerah | cause I corrected typos, changed some things, added fonts back in, new bgs, etc. to the alpha version. Was letting elkano tag it (which he hasn't yet.... :( ) |
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| 03:58.10 | Lunessa | *nod* Coolio. |
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| 03:58.27 | Lunessa | Also: http://www.program-glitch-esc.net/ *SQUEE* |
| 04:01.08 | Seerah | got a long time to wait :( |
| 04:01.26 | Lunessa | I've been waiting 20 years for a sequal. |
| 04:01.30 | frontendloader | unless a workprint leaks |
| 04:01.41 | Lunessa | A few more months won't kill me. |
| 04:01.54 | shifuimam | would sell her soul for a frigging wait/sleep function in lua |
| 04:02.17 | Arrowmaster | only 20 years? |
| 04:02.30 | Arrowmaster | its almost 30 years old |
| 04:02.41 | Lunessa | Arrowmaster: I didn't get to see Tron when it came out. |
| 04:02.57 | Arrowmaster | i wasnt born yet when it came out |
| 04:03.10 | Lunessa | I had to wait for Disney to decide it was worth putting out on Laser Disc - and then finding a copy of the damned thing. |
| 04:03.25 | frontendloader | is it bad that I haven't seen tron 1 |
| 04:03.30 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 04:03.34 | frontendloader | or the trailer that you just linked |
| 04:03.39 | frontendloader | but I know thats what you're talking about :/ |
| 04:03.53 | WobWork | shifuimam: there's yield with coroutines... |
| 04:03.56 | Lunessa | My parents, who were generally cool, wouldn't go to see Tron or Heavy Metal when they came out. And I couldn't get into those films alone at 10. |
| 04:04.08 | shifuimam | WobWork: i know. but i want someting really straightforward. you know, like sleep(5) |
| 04:04.37 | Arrowmaster | shifuimam: wouldnt do you any good since it would likely lock up the game in RoM just like it would do in WoW |
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| 04:05.08 | shifuimam | isn't there any way for a fucntion to sleep without it making everything ELSE sleep? |
| 04:05.37 | Arrowmaster | not in single threaded applications |
| 04:06.08 | shifuimam | oic |
| 04:06.10 | shifuimam | also wtf is this movie about |
| 04:06.44 | Seerah | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tron_(film) |
| 04:07.05 | Lunessa | If you like MMOs Tron will appeal. |
| 04:07.13 | shifuimam | eh. |
| 04:07.33 | shifuimam | so it's essentially a guy stuck in a video game? |
| 04:07.51 | Seerah | It's *the first* guy stuck in a video game |
| 04:08.17 | shifuimam | i'm more interested in seeing alice in wonderland |
| 04:09.01 | Lunessa | It's also about central control, rebellion, the hacker ethic and manipulating the system. A truly subversive film. |
| 04:09.06 | shifuimam | lol |
| 04:09.28 | shifuimam | i'm not much for "deep" movies |
| 04:09.49 | Lunessa | Not to mention, it's one of the first visions of "cyberspace" ever created. |
| 04:10.00 | shifuimam | i rather liked the rendition from Weird Science |
| 04:10.40 | Lunessa | Tron was incredibly influential to the thinking of an entire generation of people. |
| 04:10.53 | Seerah | it influenced The Matrix |
| 04:10.56 | shifuimam | like seinfeld? |
| 04:10.57 | Seerah | even |
| 04:11.39 | Arathros | and noone knows the answer to my question? |
| 04:11.43 | Arathros | gosh |
| 04:11.58 | shifuimam | we're a pathetic lot |
| 04:12.51 | Lunessa | Arathros: I've answered this same question every day for like a week. |
| 04:13.16 | Arathros | can you name times. |
| 04:13.21 | Seerah | I just searched up in IRC to see if it was the same person that asked it earlier - it was phrased the same way, wasn't it? |
| 04:13.23 | Lunessa | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitGroupRolesAssigned |
| 04:14.35 | DWSR | Anyone know which bosses have a parry-haste mechanic? |
| 04:15.20 | Lunessa | DWSR: The parry article on wowwiki has a link |
| 04:15.55 | Seerah | (11:03:22 AM) Arathros: what about getting their LFG roles. anyway to retrieve that? cant seem to locate ti |
| 04:15.56 | Seerah | (11:56:05 AM) Arathros: anyone know the variable to check what LFG roles people havE? |
| 04:15.56 | Seerah | (12:15:11 PM) Arathros: noone might know the answer to what i can do to get info about what role the Unit has in LFG randoms like tank, healer, leader, and damage |
| 04:16.50 | Seerah | (12:25:16 PM) Lunessa: Arathros: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitGroupRolesAssigned |
| 04:18.33 | Lunessa | Apparently, I'm supposed to have done something other than link to the API to do what is desired. |
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| 04:19.11 | DWSR | ~wowwiki |
| 04:19.12 | purl | The largest English-language Warcraft wiki in existence, with over 73,000 articles. It is located at http://www.wowwiki.com |
| 04:19.53 | Shirik | tackles Seerah |
| 04:20.00 | Seerah | tickles Shirik |
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| 04:22.50 | Lunessa | My article on troubleshooting AddOns has 252,2944 views on the UI & Macros forums. If it were a novella I'd be an NYT best seller. Funny ol' world, innit? |
| 04:25.29 | kdtresh | novellas are free? |
| 04:25.40 | cog|away | two hundred fifty two ten-thousand, two thousand nine hundred forty-four |
| 04:26.21 | cogwheel | ~poke Lunessa |
| 04:26.21 | purl | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind Lunessa, pokes Lunessa repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
| 04:27.02 | Lunessa | typos abound, this is why I'm the most heavily edited author in existence. |
| 04:27.13 | kdtresh | tree? poke? where's the connection? |
| 04:27.47 | kdtresh | maybe i need another drink |
| 04:28.08 | Lunessa | kdtresh: another drink is nearly always in order. |
| 04:28.15 | kdtresh | agrees. |
| 04:29.06 | DWSR | Lunessa: It doesn't list which bosses. |
| 04:29.23 | Lunessa | DWSR: Sorry. :( |
| 04:29.26 | DWSR | np |
| 04:33.00 | Lunessa | Ok, I'm out. Ciao tutti. |
| 04:39.45 | Shirik | Esamynn |
| 04:39.48 | Shirik | sup |
| 04:43.24 | Shirik | fine ignore me :< |
| 04:44.33 | Esamynn | Shirik: heyo |
| 04:47.50 | Adys | Hey, I don't tell you how to tell me what to do, so don't tell me how to do what you tell me to do. |
| 04:50.01 | Esamynn | come on Adys, tell us how you really feel :P |
| 04:50.59 | Adys | lol |
| 04:51.03 | Adys | Futurama wins |
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| 05:00.11 | Arrowmaster | wtb download for the new tron legacy trailer |
| 05:00.26 | Arrowmaster | it says 'right click and save as' but its a total fucking lie |
| 05:00.38 | frontendloader | at the root level of an addon |
| 05:00.43 | frontendloader | self is defined as the addon name isn't it? |
| 05:00.47 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 05:02.17 | Esamynn | frontendloader: the addon name is passed in to the root of each file as part of ... |
| 05:02.59 | frontendloader | oh goodness me |
| 05:03.08 | Esamynn | local addonName, addonTable = ...; --The same AddOn table is sent to every file loaded by a particular addon. |
| 05:03.22 | frontendloader | I was scrolled just a bit too far down and didn't see the select |
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| 05:41.52 | durcyn | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0FpV0dfoAk pay close attention to the sound at 0:29 |
| 05:42.09 | frontendloader | I think I'm leaking |
| 05:42.09 | frontendloader | ..\FrameXML\InterfaceOptionsFrame.lua line 614: |
| 05:42.09 | frontendloader | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:42.35 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaFNL8yHEDM&feature=sub |
| 05:46.28 | Arathros | Kraps lol |
| 05:51.22 | Arathros | to control unitparty and raid frames. is the Party_leader_changed, party_member_changed, player_flags_changed enough? |
| 05:51.38 | Arathros | and raid equivelent |
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| 06:07.07 | NightHawkTheSane | "... Did you kill a man with an appetizer?" "I don't know, maybe.." |
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| 06:31.00 | Arathros | print("Raid: " .. GetNumRaidMemebers) .. should work as a . in php but it isnt |
| 06:36.58 | Jerub | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:45.13 | Thunder_Child | "Tomorrow morning at 8:00 AM PST Cisco Systems will be making an announcement which will "forever change the Internet."" this should be interesting |
| 06:46.44 | Arathros | god this is annoyin to think og |
| 06:46.46 | Arathros | of |
| 06:47.02 | Arathros | any var to check if I'm in a party or raid or not |
| 06:47.08 | haste | companies really like to say that Thunder_Child |
| 06:47.13 | Arathros | cause getnumpartymembers and raid members can screw it up |
| 06:47.49 | Thunder_Child | true enough haste |
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| 07:00.02 | Arrowmaster | Arathros: its a function not a variable you have to use it like print("Raid: " .. GetNumRaidMemebers()) |
| 07:00.13 | Arathros | ye got that |
| 07:00.21 | Arathros | 25 mins ago ;P |
| 07:01.37 | Arathros | but trying to think of events to control partyframes health and status. and raid. |
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| 07:06.40 | Thunder_Child | oh man this is going to be a huge time sink http://www.popsci.com/archives |
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| 07:11.33 | Arathros | gd thing is that my design is doing good.. got player target and full party done.. |
| 07:11.53 | Arathros | need tot and pet and raid though ;P but when i got the party down i can move on. |
| 07:12.11 | Arathros | who else was making their own UF? |
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| 07:24.17 | Arathros | is that elkano s in the guy that makes the buffbars? |
| 07:25.01 | Shirik | yes |
| 07:25.04 | Arathros | kewl |
| 07:25.10 | Arathros | i get a error on the tablet |
| 07:25.26 | Arathros | hmm i did lol now it wont lol |
| 07:25.34 | Shirik | "Is that Shirik, the guy that made RDX 5 OS?" "What's RDX?" |
| 07:25.41 | Shirik | :( |
| 07:25.44 | Arathros | there i got the error |
| 07:25.49 | Shadowed | RDX? |
| 07:25.50 | Arathros | anywhere i can post it? |
| 07:25.51 | Shadowed | I thought that died off |
| 07:25.53 | zenzio | poor Shirik... he's even talking to himself now |
| 07:25.57 | Shirik | this was a LONG time ago Shadowed |
| 07:26.03 | Shadowed | zenzio he was always delusional |
| 07:26.05 | Shirik | early BC |
| 07:26.10 | Shirik | not OpenRDX, this was before that |
| 07:26.12 | zenzio | Shirik turned into a conspiracy |
| 07:26.15 | Shadowed | oh |
| 07:26.29 | Shadowed | which RDX is which again, RDX was paid, OpenRDX is not? |
| 07:26.34 | Shirik | Veni gave us permission to take RDX 5 and make it open source |
| 07:26.40 | Shirik | correct |
| 07:26.52 | Shirik | so Cidan and I developed that |
| 07:26.59 | Shirik | and it was good for a while |
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| 07:35.47 | zenzio | "Ubisoft tweets that their DRM servers are experiencing another denial of service attack" |
| 07:36.00 | zenzio | wonder if they took the possibility that could happen into account when they decided to go for this |
| 07:47.01 | Hjalte | Did anyone find out yet if the hacked games have access to everything, like Ubisoft claims they don't? |
| 07:47.31 | Shadowed | Last I heard, AC2 has triggers such as quests and npcs that are pulled from the server. So while you can crack the DRM, you won't actually be able to complete the game |
| 07:47.56 | haste | not like you will be able to complete the game regardless! |
| 07:48.51 | zenzio | haha |
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| 07:50.00 | krka | the interesting part is how the DoS affects legitimate customers |
| 07:50.28 | haste | and making them unable to play at all, while the pirates continue |
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| 07:54.15 | zenzio | I don't know about this last DoS, but the previous one Ubisoft claimed only affected about 5% of players |
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| 08:47.02 | Wobin | Shirik, http://www.xamuel.com/inverse-graphing-calculator.php |
| 08:47.53 | Wobin | also: http://www.xamuel.com/japanese-restaurant-name-generator.php |
| 08:47.58 | Wobin | (for the less mathematically inclined) |
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| 08:48.15 | krka | wtf is that formula produced? |
| 08:50.34 | Wobin | apparently, a graph with the line of that phrase =) |
| 08:54.13 | Arathros | god i hate beeing stuck on small things ;P |
| 08:54.25 | Wobin | That's what -she- said! |
| 08:54.56 | Torhal | s/on/with/ |
| 08:55.02 | Arathros | hehe |
| 08:55.19 | Arathros | lol just got it.. I'm 3 feet under with this addon problem |
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| 08:57.17 | Arathros | GOD I CANT THINK |
| 08:57.56 | haste | take a nap! |
| 08:58.02 | haste | it does wonders for me at least |
| 08:58.18 | Torhal | But you don't sleep - you pass out for a few hours. |
| 08:58.54 | Arathros | ¨but i slept 3 tiems and still cant think of the answer ;P |
| 08:59.10 | Torhal | Answer to what? |
| 08:59.33 | Wobin | 42? |
| 08:59.35 | Arathros | how to solve my event's control with party and raid. and how to make it work lol |
| 08:59.58 | Torhal | Wobin: He didn't say "life", or even "everything". |
| 09:00.04 | haste | just how you solve it for single units? |
| 09:00.24 | Arathros | well the whole.. in raid.. dont show party. |
| 09:00.33 | Arathros | in party show party. |
| 09:00.43 | Arathros | I've make all the frames and hidden them |
| 09:00.46 | haste | just do like oUF does in 1.4 |
| 09:01.11 | Arathros | how do they do it? |
| 09:01.42 | Kaso | Anyone know a brown robe and hood to go with my argent avenger? |
| 09:02.37 | haste | Arathros: http://github.com/haste/oUF/blob/1.4/ouf.lua#L540 |
| 09:03.00 | haste | Arathros: and line 638 |
| 09:03.11 | Wobin | Kaso, jedi? =P |
| 09:03.34 | Kaso | of course! |
| 09:03.46 | Kaso | need a "master" title too but that doesnt exist :( |
| 09:05.39 | Arathros | fucking hell i dont understand more than the simple stuff |
| 09:05.56 | Arathros | pisses me off that reading the book twice now doesnt really tell much about lua. but more xml buildup |
| 09:06.28 | zenzio | I believe the book isn't really meant to teach lua, but how to use lua for WoW |
| 09:06.32 | Kaso | Have you read Programming in Lua? |
| 09:06.49 | Arathros | dont have that book... sorry |
| 09:06.56 | Arathros | wow programming sec edi. |
| 09:07.00 | zenzio | ~pil |
| 09:07.01 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 09:07.02 | Kaso | we'll you're in luck |
| 09:07.04 | Kaso | ^ |
| 09:07.18 | Wobin | Kaso, http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/5919/sw2mw2.jpg |
| 09:07.24 | Arathros | more money on books yay |
| 09:07.33 | zenzio | did you miss the URL? |
| 09:07.47 | Arathros | raid40 = '[@raid26,exists] show;', <--- i know what it does... but not how it works |
| 09:08.07 | Arathros | thats my prob. i can see the logic i most of the stuff. but nothing really explains the workings of it |
| 09:08.21 | Arathros | 99% of the stuff i have figured out for myself. |
| 09:08.21 | Kaso | Arathros: if you look at the url you'll see a free copy |
| 09:08.22 | zenzio | that's not lua though, that's WoW |
| 09:08.26 | Arathros | free copy |
| 09:08.47 | frontendloader | not sure what the @ symbol is there >_> |
| 09:08.52 | Arathros | lol |
| 09:08.55 | Arathros | see what i mean |
| 09:09.05 | Arrowmaster | shortcut for target= |
| 09:09.06 | Shirik | Wobin, that is bad ass |
| 09:09.08 | Shadowed | The @ is an alias of target= that was added with 3.3 |
| 09:09.10 | Shadowed | or maybe it was 3.2 |
| 09:09.13 | Shadowed | one of those |
| 09:09.29 | Kaso | Wobin: need brown, i aint some evil sith |
| 09:09.30 | Wobin | Kaso, or http://www.wowhead.com/?compare=4344;1380;4322 |
| 09:10.37 | Arathros | I think in the lines of. making 40 if statements that checks if raidmembers are 1 then only 1 is drawn. and so forth |
| 09:10.44 | Arrowmaster | haste pisses me off with his need to leave out parentheses for functions whenever possible but always including them on any if statement |
| 09:10.52 | Shadowed | haha |
| 09:11.34 | Arrowmaster | and not putting a space after if! |
| 09:12.04 | frontendloader | yeah his lua style is pretty odd |
| 09:12.11 | frontendloader | probably a perl programmer at heart! |
| 09:12.24 | Shadowed | haste? he's just crazy |
| 09:12.43 | frontendloader | if you want more legible unitframe code |
| 09:12.50 | frontendloader | theres another guy in here that wrote some frames or so I hear |
| 09:12.58 | Shadowed | I hear Shirik wrote frames |
| 09:13.11 | frontendloader | except he's too modest and thinks his code is awful |
| 09:13.15 | frontendloader | possibly |
| 09:13.23 | frontendloader | or would never come out and say it is good |
| 09:13.29 | Shadowed | SUFs code is kind of messy |
| 09:13.33 | frontendloader | see? |
| 09:13.38 | Shadowed | it is |
| 09:13.42 | Shadowed | config code is a god awful mess |
| 09:13.43 | frontendloader | but the routines are all there at heart |
| 09:13.59 | Arathros | fuck unitframes.. i got the design down. but the code it too lame. |
| 09:14.28 | Shadowed | UF design isn't that straightforward if you want to support all the different type of units :p |
| 09:14.28 | frontendloader | you are the only person I know that enjoys working with framexml over the meat and potatoes lua |
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| 09:15.05 | frontendloader | the gui is always the last thing I make and always the most time consuming :( |
| 09:16.16 | Wobin | Kaso, http://www.wowhead.com/?compare=1380:4322:4344 |
| 09:16.18 | Wobin | there we go |
| 09:16.22 | Wobin | view 3D on that |
| 09:16.30 | Arathros | well just want a fix design and auto show dpending on raid or party.. |
| 09:16.39 | Arathros | have the LFG partyroles showing. party leader. |
| 09:16.54 | Kaso | Seems a pretty good match ;p |
| 09:17.02 | Arathros | and no errors when actually joiinng a party because onupdate is faster than the rest of the engine ;P |
| 09:17.30 | Wobin | http://www.wowhead.com/?compare=1380:4322:4344:13246 |
| 09:17.39 | Wobin | even though the Avenger doesn't render =\ |
| 09:18.55 | Kaso | lol wowhead fail |
| 09:19.12 | Kaso | gotta dual wield it with that spellpower sword from tbc too |
| 09:19.25 | Kaso | or teebu's if you're feeling superlucky |
| 09:21.21 | Arrowmaster | has seen multiple teebu's drop |
| 09:21.53 | Kaso | Doesn't count if they were from AQ opening bags |
| 09:22.10 | Arrowmaster | they werent, one was from AQ opening mobs |
| 09:22.51 | Arrowmaster | the big guys that took over the desert, i was kitting them to the city guards |
| 09:23.08 | Kaso | well thats about the same :p |
| 09:23.10 | zenzio | which city? |
| 09:23.22 | Arrowmaster | the one in the desert |
| 09:23.24 | Kaso | cenarion hold i presume |
| 09:23.41 | zenzio | ah, thought you meant a capital city |
| 09:24.02 | zenzio | seemed a bit tedious |
| 09:25.20 | Kaso | i dont think you could get em to any captial cities, you'd have to get up the great lift at the end of barrens |
| 09:25.36 | zenzio | you could go through Desolace |
| 09:26.29 | Kaso | fair point |
| 09:26.49 | zenzio | but I still think it seems awfully tedious, if at all possible :-p |
| 09:26.50 | Thrae | Kiting! That brings back some memories. "Train to zone!" haha. |
| 09:27.07 | krka | kitting them? you drove them around in a talking car? |
| 09:29.38 | Wobin | krka, that would be awesome |
| 09:29.45 | Wobin | it would also make you the Hoff |
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| 09:37.24 | Kych | Am i in the right place for lua help? :D |
| 09:37.49 | zenzio | possibly. This is more WoW-focused, but you could try |
| 09:37.58 | zenzio | if it's general lua, there's #lua |
| 09:38.16 | Kych | Nah its regarding an addon im trying to make / edit, but didnt wanan be to specific to start :p |
| 09:39.11 | Kych | Basically im trying to edit the CLCRet, to display my Enh shaman priority. But im unsure how to get it to track how many stacks my Maelstom buff has |
| 09:39.22 | Kych | Anybody think they can give me a hand? |
| 09:42.54 | zenzio | what is CLCRet? |
| 09:43.31 | Kych | It basically makes ret pala / prot pala priority boxes. Kinda like ShockAndAwe for enh shamans |
| 09:43.59 | Kych | I very much dislike the SAA style, so i just wanna get the looks from CLCret |
| 09:46.59 | Kych | Heres the line which i think its supposed to go, but im still new so could be wrong: if UnitBuff("player", taowSpellName) == nil then v.cd = 100 end |
| 09:47.31 | Kych | 'taowSpellName' is the local spell ID at the start, so those are the only 2 places i could think it could go. |
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| 09:55.39 | Wobin | how to iron a shirt in 3 min: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeA9gH_iWXY&feature=player_embedded |
| 10:02.02 | Arathros | thats insane how he folds it lol |
| 10:04.15 | Corrodias | why use materials in a shirt that will just hold wrinkles all the time? :| |
| 10:04.17 | Corrodias | are we silly? |
| 10:04.43 | krka | a shirt without materials seems like the emperors new clothes |
| 10:05.38 | Wobin | Corrodias, probably because the materials that provide the most comfortable shirt to wear, tend to crease |
| 10:06.49 | Corrodias | i don't know, i've never heard of suits or the shirts that go with them being all that comfortable |
| 10:07.17 | Corrodias | although maybe that's why they have to use supposedly fancy material for it, to compensate for the design. |
| 10:07.36 | Wobin | some silk shirts are amazingly comfortable |
| 10:12.11 | Fisker | hey Wobin |
| 10:12.13 | Fisker | le fu! |
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| 11:08.29 | A-KO | hmm, has anyone's patch actually installed? Or just downloaded? |
| 11:09.09 | EthanCentaurai | just downloaded |
| 11:09.40 | EthanCentaurai | it will be a few more weeks before it goes live imo |
| 11:09.58 | A-KO | ah |
| 11:12.59 | Fisker | slaps EthanCentaurai around a bit with a large trout |
| 11:13.10 | Fisker | slap'd |
| 11:13.16 | EthanCentaurai | rages |
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| 11:23.02 | Fisker | yes |
| 11:23.04 | Fisker | yeeeeeeeeeees |
| 11:23.17 | zenzio | TMI |
| 11:28.02 | Fisker | why? |
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| 11:47.24 | Arathros | print(not nil) --> true |
| 11:47.32 | Arathros | someone explain "not" to me |
| 11:47.36 | Arathros | cause that makes no sense |
| 11:49.35 | amro | Arathros: nil evaluates to false. not false == true |
| 11:49.48 | Arathros | ok |
| 11:50.09 | Arathros | always though that nil needed something to be compared to |
| 11:50.19 | amro | nope |
| 11:50.35 | zenzio | you can compare nil to nil if you'd like |
| 11:50.39 | amro | you can do things like if not varname then --[[varname is nil]] end |
| 11:51.10 | cbreak | false also evaluates to false |
| 11:51.16 | Elkano | lua> print(3<nil) |
| 11:51.17 | lua_bot | Elkano: luabot:1: attempt to compare number with nil |
| 11:51.43 | Elkano | damn, expected other formulation of the error :( |
| 11:52.38 | Thrae | It's safer to do 'if varname == nil' than 'if not varname' as false is a valid value for varname. You could just say, "well that'll never happen", but that's not exactly good programming ;) |
| 11:53.17 | tlund | if i set varname to false, is it set to -1 then? |
| 11:53.29 | zenzio | it is set to false then |
| 11:53.47 | Thrae | In Lua, 'false' is boolean. |
| 11:54.09 | tlund | ok, so if i try to do string concatination and print it, it would fail? |
| 11:54.11 | cbreak | it's one of two boolean values |
| 11:54.34 | cbreak | lua> print("let's just test it: "..false) |
| 11:54.34 | lua_bot | cbreak: luabot:1: attempt to concatenate a boolean value |
| 11:54.46 | cbreak | lua> print("let's just test it: "..tostring(false)) |
| 11:54.46 | lua_bot | cbreak: let's just test it: false |
| 11:55.06 | cbreak | lua> print("let's just test it: "..tostring(nil)) |
| 11:55.07 | lua_bot | cbreak: let's just test it: nil |
| 11:55.07 | Thrae | You can print a boolean value, but you can't concat it without converting it to a stirng. |
| 11:55.29 | cbreak | lua> print("let's just test it: "..tostring(tostring)) |
| 11:55.30 | lua_bot | cbreak: let's just test it: function: 0x846ef08 |
| 11:55.43 | Thrae | I believe print automatically converts if it's only given a non-string |
| 11:55.47 | Thrae | lua> print(false) |
| 11:55.47 | lua_bot | Thrae: false |
| 11:56.12 | Thrae | That could be confusing if you didn't know that |
| 11:56.38 | cbreak | lua> print(print) |
| 11:56.38 | lua_bot | cbreak: function: 0x95984e0 |
| 11:57.18 | cbreak | hmm... |
| 11:57.49 | Thrae | What do you think it would give you, cbreak? |
| 11:57.55 | Thrae | s/do/did/ |
| 11:58.00 | cbreak | it seems to truncate pointers |
| 11:58.12 | cbreak | remove the leading zeroes |
| 11:58.27 | Thrae | Ah. Yeah. |
| 11:58.51 | cbreak | I expected 8 or 4 pairs of hex digits |
| 11:59.12 | Thrae | Imagine how nasty that would be on 64-bit or even 128-bit and beyond implementations. |
| 11:59.24 | Elkano | well, no real info in leading zeros, right? |
| 11:59.26 | cbreak | well... it would just be a bit longer :) |
| 11:59.35 | zenzio | http://i.imgur.com/NslKJ.jpg |
| 11:59.37 | cbreak | there is info: the size of the type |
| 12:00.37 | cbreak | how disapointing... print(print) on my computer seems to always return function: 0x100101750 |
| 12:00.44 | cbreak | I hoped it would randomize it somehow |
| 12:00.50 | zenzio | reboot and see |
| 12:00.58 | cbreak | maybe only if I link lua dynamically |
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| 12:01.40 | cbreak | I try to only reboot on system updates |
| 12:02.10 | mikma | www.sex.com is on sale |
| 12:03.29 | cbreak | I offer 1 silver |
| 12:03.34 | cbreak | no, wait, 0.5 silver |
| 12:07.15 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/color_names.png |
| 12:08.11 | zenzio | hehe |
| 12:08.36 | cbreak | color names if you're a programmer: #ffff00 |
| 12:08.59 | cbreak | color names if you're an OpenGL programmer: (1,1,0,1) |
| 12:09.38 | theorbtwo | cbreak: No, that's the HTML jockey version. If you are a programmer, it's likely (255, 255, 0). |
| 12:09.41 | zenzio | there are other APIs/frameworks that use floating-point rather than 0-255 also |
| 12:10.00 | Thrae | I see #HEX as more of the HTML standard. |
| 12:10.23 | cbreak | theorbtwo: use doubles! |
| 12:10.31 | cbreak | measly 8 bit precision per color? HA! |
| 12:11.05 | cbreak | glColor4d ftw |
| 12:11.20 | theorbtwo | Er, 24 bits, 8 per channel... Last I checked, that was supposed to be more then the human eye could precieve... |
| 12:11.32 | cbreak | not in linear space |
| 12:11.43 | cbreak | only if you use sRGB or some other non-linear space |
| 12:11.47 | cbreak | which is a pain to calculate with |
| 12:12.00 | theorbtwo | Ah, interesting. |
| 12:12.34 | cbreak | most computers actually use sRGB (macs can use many different color profile, but it's the default too) |
| 12:12.53 | cbreak | but then programmers asume that (0.5, 0.5, 0.5) is 50% grey |
| 12:12.56 | cbreak | which it of course isn't |
| 12:13.05 | cbreak | (because it's not linear) |
| 12:13.43 | zenzio | we should just go back to palettes |
| 12:13.54 | zenzio | setColor(734237); |
| 12:13.57 | zenzio | "ah, red" |
| 12:15.54 | mikma | http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/black_and_white.gif |
| 12:17.16 | zenzio | urgh, pictures like that, cool though they are, make me queasy |
| 12:19.32 | cbreak | http://www.ritsumei.ac.jp/~akitaoka/index-e.html |
| 12:19.36 | cbreak | worse |
| 12:25.22 | Wobin | cbreak, my god |
| 12:25.33 | Wobin | the web design hearkens back to the 90s =P |
| 12:25.51 | cbreak | it's a japanese page. Maybe they like it |
| 12:25.55 | cbreak | and it sort of goes with the images |
| 12:26.20 | mikma | ah. i love how you can fuck with the human eye |
| 12:26.57 | cbreak | I blame the brain |
| 12:27.40 | Arrowmaster | the black and white castle one is a good one |
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| 13:12.27 | Arathros | who makes UF here? |
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| 13:31.31 | zenzio | tickles Lopeppeppy |
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| 13:32.13 | Lopeppeppy | mph |
| 13:32.37 | zenzio | not a fun day so far? |
| 13:32.58 | krka | miles per hour? |
| 13:33.06 | krka | seems strange without a context |
| 13:33.06 | zenzio | moans |
| 13:33.33 | Arathros | hmm noone here worked on UF's? |
| 13:33.48 | zenzio | probably a lot of people here have at some point |
| 13:34.41 | zenzio | I'd say it's better to ask your question than to just as who has made unit frames |
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| 13:37.54 | Lopeppeppy | not feeling spiffy this morning, zenzio. Like... I stopped taking the antibiotics two days ago and the fever and headache are back. |
| 13:38.07 | zenzio | :( |
| 13:38.18 | zenzio | huggles Lopeppeppy instead |
| 13:38.31 | Lopeppeppy | drs. at 10, hopefully get test results from last week, talk to him about it coming back. |
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| 13:46.08 | Zyonin | Good afternoon channel dwellers |
| 13:46.20 | zenzio | ahoy |
| 13:46.22 | Lopeppeppy | Birds are singin', yup |
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| 13:48.32 | Zyonin | Well I am in a good mood |
| 13:49.21 | Zyonin | I finally managed to snag a job. It won't pay much but I am getting my foot in the door |
| 13:49.40 | zenzio | grats |
| 13:50.45 | Zyonin | Thanks, it's bloody difficult for us non-EU types to get a job in Italy so I am quite happy. After two years of failures and "no". |
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| 13:54.22 | zenzio | non-EU? |
| 13:56.47 | Lopeppeppy | as in, there on a visa I would guess. |
| 13:57.36 | zenzio | well yeah; was just curious where from |
| 13:58.08 | Zyonin | Yah, I am non-EU (American) |
| 13:58.14 | zenzio | aha |
| 13:59.09 | cbreak | why would you want a job in italy? |
| 13:59.13 | Zyonin | I am a legal resident in Italy, however my wife is the "bread winner" |
| 13:59.31 | Zyonin | I have been here (Italy) for the last five years |
| 13:59.37 | cbreak | italy seems to be quite... strange. and they have a selfish morron as boss |
| 14:00.59 | Zyonin | Yah, Italy is quite strange. I wish I could vote so I show the current PM just what I think of him. |
| 14:01.24 | zenzio | you assume he'd care |
| 14:01.36 | cbreak | throwing apple pie might help |
| 14:01.42 | zenzio | doubt it |
| 14:01.42 | cbreak | at least if well aimed |
| 14:01.46 | zenzio | throwing a statue didn't |
| 14:01.54 | Zyonin | Well, if he gets slung out, he won't have great access to the Treasury |
| 14:02.19 | zenzio | will it matter? I was under the impression he controls most of the media, has to be money in that |
| 14:02.24 | Zyonin | He will have to bribe someone to suckle off the public tit instead of just getting it by "rights" |
| 14:03.29 | Zyonin | He does control the media to some degree, however Rupert Murdoch is getting more control here via Sky and Sig B does not get along with Mr. M. Those too egos are to large to fit into one country |
| 14:04.33 | zenzio | sounds interesting |
| 14:05.03 | cbreak | the last thing I heard of was that his party didn't sign up for the elections |
| 14:05.14 | cbreak | and after the deadline passed, he said something like |
| 14:05.33 | cbreak | "Those rules don't apply to us, we're the big party, so just register us anyway" |
| 14:06.05 | Zyonin | Ya, they didn't get the paperwork filed in time. Tough shit Sig. B. The rules apply to you too. \ |
| 14:07.25 | zenzio | "when the president does it that means that it is not illegal." |
| 14:10.41 | Zyonin | Anyway, Italian politics is the national soap opera. Same thing, different day and the viewers (voters) tune each to day to "watch" it. |
| 14:11.46 | cbreak | swiss politics is better imho |
| 14:12.24 | cbreak | lately the councelors spend a lot of time apologizing for the outcome of elections, or being unhappy with them |
| 14:14.09 | Zyonin | I am not too surprised to "hear" that since part of Switzerland is Italian. I think political "games" are coded into the Italian's DNA. |
| 14:16.01 | cbreak | the italian, french and romansch parts are small compared to the german speaking one |
| 14:16.48 | cbreak | but a big part of the population seems to be opposed to changes |
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| 14:48.16 | alestane | Doh, I scared her away. |
| 14:48.26 | zenzio | as usual |
| 14:48.42 | Cide | way to go, alestane |
| 14:49.50 | Fisker | http://i49.tinypic.com/2d7ac6w.jpg <-i'm assuming direct control |
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| 14:56.47 | DJJeff | when the realms are down like this how do I download the 3.3.3 patch? |
| 14:57.14 | DJJeff | its set to download while playing wow but it doesn't? |
| 14:58.38 | Zyonin | Generally, the background patcher will wait until you log-out then download the patch in the background as you work in your normal Windows enviroment |
| 14:58.51 | DJJeff | yes |
| 14:58.53 | DJJeff | it should! |
| 14:58.57 | DJJeff | but its not |
| 14:58.59 | Zyonin | It's no different than downloading a torrent with your Bittorrent client. |
| 14:59.14 | Zyonin | Then kill the process and manually start after you exit WoW |
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| 14:59.26 | DJJeff | my launcher.exe tells me "the data is avail for download" |
| 14:59.33 | cbreak | you can change that behaviour in your launcher |
| 14:59.45 | DJJeff | and will not download |
| 14:59.50 | Zyonin | Then likely, it's got all the data currently avaiable |
| 14:59.54 | cbreak | I just started the BGdownloader and it downloads |
| 14:59.58 | DJJeff | ok |
| 14:59.59 | Zyonin | There will be more later. |
| 15:00.16 | DJJeff | cause my friend in florida has 3.3.3 |
| 15:00.25 | DJJeff | I was in vent well he got it |
| 15:00.42 | DJJeff | saddly im in canada |
| 15:01.13 | Zyonin | 3.3.3 has NOT been released, you are getting the bits that are done, mostly graphics and models |
| 15:01.36 | DJJeff | ok |
| 15:01.50 | DJJeff | it was around 70MB he said |
| 15:02.42 | Zyonin | Blizzard always starts the artwork downloads first as they are usually the first part of a patch to be finished and often the largest slice of data |
| 15:02.58 | DJJeff | why do the realms need to go down well we wait |
| 15:03.04 | Zyonin | And 70 MB does sound about right. |
| 15:03.07 | DJJeff | thats what I dont understand |
| 15:03.45 | Zyonin | Because it's Tuesday maintence. They need to take them down to work on the servers. Things like backing up the DBs, checking the file systems and the like |
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| 15:04.32 | Zyonin | If they tried to do that while the servers are up, you get the lag from Hell. |
| 15:04.49 | amro | they've had weekly downtime almost since launch |
| 15:05.04 | amro | and it used to be daily |
| 15:05.10 | Zyonin | It's not going to change and Blizzard is much better about uptime compared to other MMOs |
| 15:05.29 | Zyonin | And often, Blizzard can get away with a simple rolling restart. |
| 15:06.18 | Zyonin | Eventually Blizzard will start updating the servers in prep for 4.0/Cataclysm. Then we will see a day of extent maintence that will be rolled around by Battlegroup |
| 15:09.23 | cbreak | they could just do it with spares |
| 15:09.27 | cbreak | maybe |
| 15:10.35 | Zyonin | Well, I have to run. It's time for me to go fetch the kid from school |
| 15:19.02 | Arathros | so its releasing tomorrow? or predownalod? |
| 15:20.30 | Arathros | !api targetoftarget |
| 15:20.30 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'targetoftarget'. |
| 15:20.36 | Arathros | !api target |
| 15:20.37 | lua_bot | Found 37 possible matches for 'target'. Please be more specific |
| 15:22.14 | alestane | Usually, the first "data for the next patch is available for download" about 2-4 weeks before the patch actually goes live, Arathros, if past experience is any judge. |
| 15:24.27 | Arathros | yeh |
| 15:24.37 | Arathros | hmm any idea on target of target |
| 15:24.56 | alestane | Depends what you're trying to find out. |
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| 15:25.28 | Arathros | well target of target for my ui |
| 15:26.49 | alestane | That still doesn't tell me what you're trying to do or what obstacles you're facing in it. |
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| 15:27.48 | Arathros | cant find vars. or any way to call em |
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| 15:28.09 | Torhal | alestane: it dun werk! |
| 15:28.49 | Arathros | 99% of the wow code is brand new to me cause it seems there are 9 million ways to get info |
| 15:29.07 | alestane | And what info, exactly, do you need? |
| 15:29.47 | Arathros | how to get that info lol |
| 15:30.01 | Arathros | UnitName("TargetofTarget") ? |
| 15:30.41 | alestane | If you want the name of your target's target, the appropriate call is UnitName("targettarget"). |
| 15:31.25 | Arathros | ok see that helped' so targettarget is the way to go around it |
| 15:31.37 | Torhal | !api unitname |
| 15:31.37 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'unitname': UnitName, GetUnitName |
| 15:31.45 | Torhal | !api ^unitname |
| 15:31.46 | lua_bot | UnitName: Returns the name of a unit (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitName) |
| 15:31.53 | alestane | "targettarget" is the unitID for your target's target, yes. |
| 15:32.03 | Torhal | http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api_types#unitID |
| 15:32.24 | jnwhiteh | Torhal: UnitName would have worked too, it does a simple full match, I believe |
| 15:32.35 | Torhal | !api UnitName |
| 15:32.37 | lua_bot | UnitName: Returns the name of a unit (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitName) |
| 15:32.43 | Torhal | jnwhiteh: Ah, danke |
| 15:32.46 | jnwhiteh | np :P |
| 15:32.49 | jnwhiteh | case matters, *shrug* |
| 15:33.49 | Legorol | jnwhiteh: <3 how's rowing going |
| 15:33.57 | Legorol | you still doing it? |
| 15:34.12 | Arathros | targettarget arent on that list |
| 15:34.16 | jnwhiteh | I got pulled into rowing in Torpids this past weekend. |
| 15:34.41 | jnwhiteh | Arathros: http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api_types#unitID |
| 15:34.41 | alestane | "A unitID can also be formed by appending "target" to an existing unitID, referring to that unit's target. This can be done repeatedly. For example, consider a raid situation where the token raid13 refers to a priest: raid13target might be a rogue the priest is healing, raid13targettarget might be the boss monster the rogue is attacking, and raid13targettargettarget might be the warrior tanking the boss." |
| 15:34.46 | jnwhiteh | its listed right there at the bottom of the list |
| 15:34.55 | Ackis | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:34.56 | jnwhiteh | Legorol: we bumped twice, and were bumped once |
| 15:35.10 | Arathros | aaaah you can stack them |
| 15:35.23 | Legorol | jnwhiteh: aah, race is on atm? |
| 15:35.35 | Legorol | ~~ Row row row your boat, gently down the slope, ~~ |
| 15:35.44 | Legorol | Let the lack of water not stop your efforts |
| 15:35.51 | jnwhiteh | No, they were wed - sat |
| 15:37.00 | jnwhiteh | Alright, I'm off to the hospital for my MRI |
| 15:37.01 | jnwhiteh | ttyl |
| 15:38.26 | Ackis | happy MRI jnwhiteh |
| 15:38.41 | krka | good luck! |
| 15:38.53 | jnwhiteh | ty, hopefully I forget to remove my nipple piercing |
| 15:38.57 | jnwhiteh | that could hurt! |
| 15:39.01 | jnwhiteh | (I don't have one) |
| 15:39.17 | krka | O_o |
| 15:39.24 | mikma | yoink |
| 15:41.37 | Ackis | you think a nipple piercing could suck, imagine a Prince Albert! |
| 15:42.35 | mikma | YOINK! |
| 15:43.01 | Cairenn | that made even me cringe |
| 15:43.14 | mikma | needs more goatse |
| 15:43.18 | Cairenn | ewww |
| 15:43.19 | Cairenn | no |
| 15:44.01 | Ackis | there's a billboard by my house advertising for Goats Eye ski resort |
| 15:44.10 | mikma | cairenn: http://www.geekologie.com/2010/03/06/yikes-tongue.gif |
| 15:45.04 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 15:45.30 | alestane | That's...um...bizarre. |
| 15:48.26 | Legorol | that is awesome! |
| 15:48.38 | Legorol | i can't even curl my tongue :( (supposed to be a genetic thing) |
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| 15:49.47 | Torhal | Legorol: She had her tongue split. |
| 15:49.53 | alestane | I'm not sure if that's a congenital condition, or a surgical one. |
| 15:49.59 | Torhal | It's surgical |
| 15:50.01 | Legorol | Torhal: interessting. |
| 15:50.10 | Legorol | and she gained the ability to have independent muscle control? |
| 15:50.15 | Torhal | Usually, people who do that have all kinds of piercings and tattoos |
| 15:50.19 | Torhal | Legorol: Yup |
| 15:50.19 | Legorol | what would cause such a surgery? |
| 15:50.26 | Torhal | Body modification. |
| 15:50.28 | Legorol | oh |
| 15:50.31 | Legorol | so not a medical reason? |
| 15:50.33 | Torhal | Nope |
| 15:50.39 | Legorol | wow |
| 15:50.51 | Legorol | that's going quite far |
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| 15:51.13 | Torhal | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongue_splitting |
| 15:51.19 | alestane | Legorol: The muscles in many peoples' tongues are already fairly independent. |
| 15:51.55 | Legorol | this is what my local careers' office must've meant by "Lifelong Learning" |
| 15:51.59 | Legorol | i learn something every day |
| 15:51.59 | Arathros | you cant scale fontstring? |
| 15:52.43 | Kraps | this topic is fascinating and i'd like to subscribe to your newsletter |
| 15:52.44 | Torhal | Legorol: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lizardman |
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| 15:54.21 | Legorol | I feel sorry for people who call themsevles by their spec, such as "kittybear". What if they respec? |
| 15:55.06 | Gnarfoz | then they still don't give a shit |
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| 15:55.22 | Ackis | Legorol: then apparently "ackis" is the "terrible priest spec" :P |
| 15:56.17 | airtonix | isn't ackis banned ? |
| 15:56.51 | Ackis | nein! |
| 15:57.21 | airtonix | or maybe it was adys. |
| 15:57.32 | frontendloader | probably adys |
| 15:57.34 | airtonix | no no it is ackis |
| 15:57.42 | frontendloader | he works with that sneaky frenchman boubouille |
| 15:57.57 | airtonix | whats that joke about the french ? |
| 15:58.03 | Ackis | yeah adys is the banned one! |
| 15:58.21 | alestane | Legorol: or "Iwonthealu". |
| 15:58.39 | Legorol | i saw a Bóómkin once |
| 15:58.42 | airtonix | or was it the italians : six reverse gears and one forward. |
| 15:59.14 | airtonix | so how long were you banned for ackis and what did you do ? |
| 15:59.35 | ckknight | mikma: that is sickening |
| 15:59.46 | krka | Legorol: moonkittybeartree is a pretty safe name though |
| 16:00.34 | mikma | ckknight: i bet you'd wanna get a blowjob from that |
| 16:00.46 | ckknight | too freaky for me |
| 16:01.13 | airtonix | ckknight, just a bangers and mash kind of guy then ? |
| 16:01.34 | airtonix | steak and kidney pies etc |
| 16:02.46 | Kraps | furiousarmstank |
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| 16:04.53 | Zyonin | Umm, what did I wander into? Or should I dive back into the bunker? |
| 16:05.04 | Torhal | Zyonin: Split tongues. |
| 16:05.05 | ckknight | Zyonin: I don't know you |
| 16:05.11 | ckknight | Zyonin: who're you? |
| 16:05.15 | Torhal | ckknight: Lyfokos |
| 16:05.21 | Torhal | Or Lykofos. Or something. |
| 16:05.32 | Zyonin | Lykofos on WoWAce, used to be known as Xinh |
| 16:05.44 | Zyonin | I have been around a long time, now staff over at WoWI |
| 16:05.46 | Thrae | Well this new Power Lift chair for my room and in replace of my computer (office) chair is great except it's a little low seating. And I need to crawl onto the bed and into the chair. |
| 16:06.16 | airtonix | Thrae, just need a crane to complete the set! |
| 16:06.28 | Thrae | airtonix: It's a chair with power lift -- it IS a crane |
| 16:06.52 | airtonix | Thrae, oh. i thought maybe it was a stair climber |
| 16:08.09 | Gnarfoz | <mikma> ckknight: i bet you'd wanna get a blowjob from that <-- you bet |
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| 16:09.58 | Arathros | !api UnitGroupRolesAssigned() |
| 16:09.58 | lua_bot | UnitGroupRolesAssigned: This function is not yet documented (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitGroupRolesAssigned) |
| 16:10.06 | Arathros | can i pass unit to it? |
| 16:15.04 | Torhal | Arathros: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_UnitGroupRolesAssigned |
| 16:15.10 | Torhal | Google is your friend. |
| 16:15.36 | Ackis | ~lart Torhal |
| 16:15.36 | purl | strangles Torhal with a 9-pole serial cable |
| 16:15.39 | Ackis | get back to coding! |
| 16:15.46 | Torhal | ~kill Ackis |
| 16:15.47 | purl | ACTION shoots a excited pseudoneutron gun at Ackis |
| 16:15.53 | Arathros | sweet |
| 16:16.27 | Ackis | coding! NOW! BOY! |
| 16:16.28 | Ackis | rawr |
| 16:16.39 | Ackis | my cat attacked me this morning |
| 16:16.42 | Ackis | and I have a cut on my arm |
| 16:16.45 | Ackis | it was one of the black ones |
| 16:16.52 | Ackis | the black one with a blue collar, I think that's Indy |
| 16:16.56 | Ackis | he doesn't like me much |
| 16:17.22 | Legorol | lol ackis |
| 16:17.30 | Legorol | maybe don't give him food, and he'll learn fast ^^ |
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| 16:17.51 | Ackis | I think I threw him against the dishwasher once and he's holding a grudge =/ |
| 16:19.01 | nicoli_s | just tie his tail to another kitty, tie em over a clothes line, and hell never fuck with you again |
| 16:19.02 | Ackis | 2 cats hate me, 1 adores me, 1 is retarded and has no fear |
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| 16:20.56 | Ackis | and the dog, well he's a dog so I could beat him and he'd still love me (not that I do that :P) |
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| 16:21.21 | nicoli_s | Ackis:....the dog.....I ....beat him....i do that |
| 16:21.28 | Ackis | :P |
| 16:21.41 | nicoli_s | i mean thats a direct quote |
| 16:22.30 | Ackis | I'm arguing with an ubisoft employee about why their drm sucks donkey (Fisker) balls |
| 16:31.27 | nicoli_s | of course it does |
| 16:31.44 | foxlit | keeps loosing to protos |
| 16:31.47 | nicoli_s | if you cant play an offline game because their servers are being ddosed just shows how bad it sucks |
| 16:32.06 | Ackis | "International Product Manager in Ubisoft Montreal and former Community Developer of Assassin's Creed 2" <-- what does that mean? |
| 16:32.17 | Ackis | cuz he called me dude |
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| 16:33.39 | Torhal | nicoli_s: What happens when they go out of business or decide to move away from DRM? The game just dies? :) |
| 16:34.18 | Kraps | 3.3.3 next week y/n |
| 16:34.34 | kd3 | n |
| 16:34.43 | Kraps | :( |
| 16:35.47 | Kraps | i find the Tarren Mill saga interesting |
| 16:36.25 | Legorol | Tarren Mill saga? |
| 16:36.28 | Kraps | its really that hard to solve? |
| 16:36.36 | kd3 | the server's been unstable for how long now? |
| 16:36.42 | Legorol | US or EU? |
| 16:36.44 | kd3 | and it's only tarren mill, not the rest of the battlegroup |
| 16:36.44 | kd3 | eu |
| 16:36.50 | Legorol | ah |
| 16:36.56 | Kraps | more than a week |
| 16:36.56 | Legorol | no wonder it's fucked, Ensidia moved there |
| 16:37.01 | Legorol | unlucky for them ^^ |
| 16:37.11 | Legorol | they moved off Maghteridon to avoid the lag.. and now their whole realm is down |
| 16:37.52 | Kraps | maybe blizz is sabotaging them o |
| 16:40.51 | Gnarfoz | I only hear of the "Tarren Mill rumours", can someone link me the actual saga? |
| 16:40.58 | Kraps | "you exploit our shit, no world first for j00!!!!!" |
| 16:41.10 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:41.20 | kd3 | blue links to relevant threads: http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=12829664221&pageNo=1&sid=1#4 |
| 16:42.47 | Ginji | They could always come to Scarshield Legion, nothing ever happens there |
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| 16:49.34 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Lopeppeppy] by ChanServ |
| 16:49.59 | alestane | Yaypeppy. |
| 16:50.26 | Lopeppeppy | Heya |
| 16:50.31 | alestane | You ran away as soon as I showed up, I sort of had to guess you had, you know, actual work or something. |
| 16:51.33 | Lopeppeppy | Was working form home first, then drs., then work-work-work |
| 16:53.14 | alestane | Ah, the Drs. Did you lay claim to their XRay gizmo? |
| 16:55.04 | Lopeppeppy | No, that's next week. |
| 16:55.19 | Lopeppeppy | Today they gave me anti-bread pills and told me my ultrasounds were pretty. |
| 16:55.45 | alestane | So, no issues with the plumbing that they can see? |
| 16:56.28 | Lopeppeppy | I still have to go pee on someone's xray machine next week, and provide a few other samples before then. But it's not likely. |
| 16:57.21 | alestane | ...which also means they don't really know what's causing all this, though, right? |
| 16:57.38 | nicoli_s | wow, i totally misread that convo, was about to congratulate you on being preggo Lopeppeppy |
| 16:58.46 | Ackis | wait nicoli_s she isn't? |
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| 16:59.25 | Lunessa | statiom |
| 16:59.30 | Lunessa | station even |
| 16:59.35 | cog|work | ohai |
| 16:59.52 | Ackis | shouldn't your nick be cog|slackingoff ? |
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| 17:00.03 | cog|work | Ackis: if the realms were up, sure... |
| 17:00.15 | Fisker | . |
| 17:00.15 | Fisker | . |
| 17:00.16 | Fisker | . |
| 17:00.21 | Lunessa | nah it's really cog|moreproductivethanyousohastimeforWoW |
| 17:00.24 | Fisker | Arena Team Name in violation: Mild Cholesters |
| 17:00.24 | Fisker | Type of Violation: Extreme Sexuality/Violence naming |
| 17:00.24 | Fisker | Consequences for Team Captain: Arena team renamed, Account Suspended pending investigation |
| 17:00.32 | Fisker | OMG BLIZZ WHY U TAKIN SO LONG TO INVESTIGATE?!1 |
| 17:00.37 | Ackis | lol |
| 17:00.41 | Ackis | did you get reported? |
| 17:00.44 | Fisker | no |
| 17:00.46 | nicoli_s | whats wrong with that name? |
| 17:00.54 | Fisker | r u srs nicoli_s ? |
| 17:01.00 | nicoli_s | yeah, i dont get it |
| 17:01.03 | cog|work | ^ |
| 17:01.06 | Fisker | >:O |
| 17:01.09 | nicoli_s | sounds like molesters? |
| 17:01.17 | cog|work | oh |
| 17:01.19 | cog|work | spoonerism |
| 17:01.20 | Fisker | Try switching M and Ch around |
| 17:01.20 | Ackis | nicoli_s: switch the M with the Ch |
| 17:01.24 | cog|work | don't transmit well via text |
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| 17:01.28 | nicoli_s | ahhh |
| 17:01.32 | nicoli_s | thats awesome |
| 17:01.38 | Fisker | and bannable :D |
| 17:01.50 | cog|work | also Choles... is usually pronounced KO-less not CHO-less |
| 17:01.55 | cog|work | like cholesterol |
| 17:02.05 | cog|work | ~fail Fisker |
| 17:02.06 | purl | Fisker: FAIL! |
| 17:02.32 | Fisker | It's kinda annoying though |
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| 17:02.39 | Fisker | I reported someone with the guildname "REDTUBE FOR LIFE" |
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| 17:02.46 | Fisker | he's still running around with it |
| 17:03.51 | cog|work | J'ai besoin de fromage! |
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| 17:04.29 | Lopeppeppy | You don't need it! It just tastes good. |
| 17:06.13 | cog|work | NEEEEEEEEEEEED! |
| 17:06.19 | DWSR | Maintenance? WTF IS THIS SHIt? |
| 17:06.20 | alestane | I keep looking at these bubble sheets of test answers and wondering how they would come out played in Guitar Hero... |
| 17:06.30 | alestane | DWSR: The usual? |
| 17:06.32 | DWSR | I PAY ALL THIS MONEY AND BLIZZARD NEEDS TO PERFORM MAINTENANCE? |
| 17:06.34 | DWSR | RAWRAWRARW |
| 17:06.42 | DWSR | alestane: Obvious troll is obvious. |
| 17:07.11 | DWSR | Fisker: What's wrong with that guild name? |
| 17:07.23 | Fisker | you don't watch enough internet porn then |
| 17:07.29 | Lopeppeppy | If you need it, dear, go get it. Thou hast legges. |
| 17:07.52 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: For me to go get it, there's a train ride involved. |
| 17:08.03 | DWSR | 4 hours. |
| 17:08.40 | alestane | 4 hours to get cheese? You are way to far off the beaten track, my friend. |
| 17:08.47 | alestane | too |
| 17:09.17 | Lopeppeppy | Or that better be spiffy damn cheese. |
| 17:09.55 | cog|work | srsly though, if i don't get enough cheese in my diet my guts start tying in knots. The month i spent with a vegan were painful (for both of us) |
| 17:10.12 | cog|work | was* |
| 17:10.24 | Lopeppeppy | So go get some! You work with wines, your gift shop must sell cheese too. |
| 17:10.29 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: Oh, you were referring to cheese? |
| 17:10.32 | cog|work | lawl gift shop... |
| 17:10.50 | cog|work | luckily the owner here is as antisocial as most of us wish we could be |
| 17:11.02 | cog|work | there aren't even enough parking lots for the employees let alone visitors |
| 17:11.16 | DWSR | I want to tank!!! |
| 17:11.17 | DWSR | WAAAA!! |
| 17:11.30 | cog|work | i want to tank de academy! |
| 17:11.37 | Lopeppeppy | I love meds that say "eat me now" |
| 17:11.52 | alestane | And how do they say this, exactly? |
| 17:11.57 | DWSR | How long does it take for Blizzard to update guild tabards? My armory model's still showing the wrong one. |
| 17:12.04 | DWSR | alestane: With a label on the side? |
| 17:12.09 | alestane | is reminded of "The Restaurant at the End of the Universe." |
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| 17:12.19 | cog|work | DWSR: usually my armory info is updated within a couple minutes of logging out |
| 17:12.25 | DWSR | cog|work: No, I know that. |
| 17:12.33 | DWSR | cog|work: The actual tabard design is what's not right. |
| 17:12.40 | cog|work | ah |
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| 17:14.05 | cog|work | just be glad you're not waiting for your avatar to show up on the Eve forum |
| 17:14.10 | cog|work | that can literally take months |
| 17:14.17 | cog|work | (or at least it used to) |
| 17:15.17 | zenzelezz | DWSR: did you try logging out with no tabard on; then later with one on? |
| 17:15.25 | DWSR | zenzelezz: No. |
| 17:15.31 | DWSR | I'll try that, though. |
| 17:15.33 | zenzelezz | could be there's something fishy about the tabard handling, but I don't know |
| 17:16.09 | DWSR | http://is.gd/a3iMK <-- That's all of the 1 handers with defense on them? |
| 17:16.12 | DWSR | seriously? |
| 17:16.44 | alestane | DWSR: There's not actually a lot of demand for tanking weapons. |
| 17:16.54 | zenzelezz | with such a high speed, yes |
| 17:16.58 | zenzelezz | most are 1.6 |
| 17:17.07 | DWSR | zenzelezz: Don't you mean a low speed? |
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| 17:17.17 | zenzelezz | high |
| 17:17.21 | zenzelezz | one-handers are fast |
| 17:17.32 | cog|work | yeah take off the speed filter there's tons |
| 17:17.34 | DWSR | zenzelezz: yes, but the speed is the time between swings (or so I thought). |
| 17:17.48 | zenzelezz | DWSR: yes |
| 17:17.52 | zenzelezz | and most are 1.6 seconds |
| 17:17.59 | DWSR | zenzelezz: I'm a DK tank. Need slower 1 handers. |
| 17:18.08 | zenzelezz | DWSR: then yes, there aren't many at all |
| 17:18.17 | cog|work | <3s his bonebreaker scepter |
| 17:18.18 | alestane | Avoid terms like 'high speed' in favor of 'fast speed' for discussions like this, promotes clarity. |
| 17:18.33 | DWSR | Good idea, alestane |
| 17:18.47 | DWSR | Blah, my DK's not geared enough to tank ICC10 yet. |
| 17:19.07 | zenzelezz | alestane: good point |
| 17:19.31 | alestane | DWSR: You hit 80, what, two days ago? |
| 17:19.33 | DWSR | There any way to filter on WoWhead by item level? |
| 17:19.39 | DWSR | alestane: 3 days, yeah. |
| 17:19.40 | alestane | I'd have to injure you if you were. |
| 17:19.43 | DWSR | lol |
| 17:19.53 | DWSR | I'm thinking I might be ready to tank it by the end of the week, though. |
| 17:19.55 | cog|work | DWSR: that's what level is |
| 17:20.07 | cog|work | Required level is where you should've put that 80 |
| 17:20.07 | zenzelezz | "required level" = character level, "level" = item level |
| 17:20.10 | DWSR | yeah. |
| 17:20.13 | DWSR | Misinterpreted. |
| 17:20.25 | zenzelezz | and item level 80 is just barely over vanilla :D |
| 17:20.33 | cog|work | or you could just sort the results and not worry about the filter :P |
| 17:20.42 | DWSR | Bah. |
| 17:20.54 | DWSR | I really need to tank H HoR for that axe. |
| 17:21.14 | cog|work | failrik's wrist-flopper? |
| 17:21.33 | zenzelezz | I like the axe |
| 17:21.41 | Kaso | wowhead really needs proper boolean logic per-field on its filters, rather than a global "AND/OR" switch |
| 17:22.13 | DWSR | cog|work: Yeah. |
| 17:22.35 | Kaso | i hate that i can't do more complicated logical statements (items with SP and (spirit or mp5) and (not hit)) |
| 17:22.56 | DWSR | WHY ARE THERE NO SLOW 1H WEAPONS?!?!?! *cry* |
| 17:23.05 | cog|work | Kaso: but then you're asking for arbitrary nesting which would necessarily bloat the interface |
| 17:23.06 | Kaso | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=19335 |
| 17:23.06 | Kaso | ;p |
| 17:23.32 | Kaso | DWSR: you can thank heroic strike for all the fast tanking weps |
| 17:23.44 | DWSR | Kaso: Yeah, I know. |
| 17:24.02 | Kaso | that weapon was always confusing back in the day |
| 17:24.25 | DWSR | Every strength weapon that's higher than ilvl 226 actually hits for less than my ilvl200 blues. |
| 17:24.31 | DWSR | so much fail. |
| 17:24.53 | Kraps | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=12829494204&sid=1 hang on to your tinfoil hats, we're going for a ride |
| 17:24.53 | Kaso | can't you half and half? one tanking wep, one dps wep |
| 17:25.49 | Kraps | the Activision part is very convincing |
| 17:25.53 | DWSR | Kaso: I'm still looking for even 1 defensive. |
| 17:26.32 | Kaso | what i mean was one standard defensive weapon, (ie, fast) to get your stats, and a second slow dps weapon for damage. Jack of all trades so to speak |
| 17:26.45 | DWSR | no |
| 17:26.48 | DWSR | Threat blows then. |
| 17:27.05 | Ackis | nicoli_s: http://www.overclockers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=636484 |
| 17:27.32 | Fisker | They're demo units! |
| 17:27.43 | nicoli_s | yah ackis i heard about that shit |
| 17:27.49 | Ackis | crazy eh? |
| 17:27.57 | nicoli_s | i was thinking of getting a new monitor from them but now i dunno |
| 17:28.19 | Ackis | wait |
| 17:28.22 | Ackis | then get it |
| 17:28.26 | Ackis | like right now, buy a toyota |
| 17:28.55 | Ackis | shits gonna be cheap |
| 17:28.56 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 17:29.16 | DWSR | There's no slow strength 1 handers? |
| 17:29.54 | DWSR | so fail. |
| 17:29.56 | DWSR | SO SO SO FAIL. |
| 17:30.07 | Fisker | broken promise! |
| 17:30.13 | cog|work | broken premise imo |
| 17:30.45 | cog|work | DWSR: it would seem to me you need to adjust what you're looking for given the information you have... |
| 17:31.11 | DWSR | cog|work: I'm looking for a slow (i.e. speed > 1.7) 1 hand weapon with strength on it. |
| 17:31.17 | DWSR | WoWhead's giving me a blank result set. |
| 17:31.21 | cog|work | no, you're looking for a good tanking weapon |
| 17:31.22 | Fisker | only 1.7? |
| 17:31.37 | cog|work | you're imposing your own artificial criteria on it because of what you think it should have |
| 17:31.43 | cog|work | i'm saying you need to adjust your goal to fit reality |
| 17:31.50 | DWSR | Oh? |
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| 17:32.00 | DWSR | You're saying I don't need strength on my weapons? |
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| 17:32.20 | cog|work | no, i'm saying that if the exact qualities you seek don't exist, then you need to seek other qualities :P |
| 17:32.27 | Lopeppeppy | ^ |
| 17:32.39 | DWSR | cog|work: Oh, obviously. |
| 17:32.40 | tem | hmm |
| 17:32.41 | cog|work | asking others what a good tanking weapon would be would be a place to start |
| 17:32.44 | tem | sc2 crashed |
| 17:32.55 | tem | but I can still hear the sounds of the match I'm missing |
| 17:33.03 | tem | and I can't find the process to kill to make it stop |
| 17:33.08 | DWSR | cog|work: "others" are all paladins, feral druids, or warriors, who want fast weapons (or staves). |
| 17:33.16 | cog|work | it's like someone asking how to do (x y z specific thing) in their addon when what they really want is the simplest way to do Q |
| 17:33.18 | DWSR | Or 2H DK tanks. |
| 17:33.42 | DWSR | cog|work: There aren't that many DW DK tanks that I've seen, tbph. |
| 17:33.46 | cog|work | iirc DW DK tanks were kinda killed last patch |
| 17:33.55 | tem | no. |
| 17:33.57 | DWSR | They were rezzed last patch. |
| 17:34.01 | cog|work | ah |
| 17:34.05 | tem | DW DK tanks are not great |
| 17:34.14 | tem | and most of the players that play them are TERRIBLE |
| 17:34.22 | DWSR | tem: I resent that. |
| 17:34.24 | *** part/#wowuidev Kamehame (~Kamehame@AVelizy-551-1-63-252.w90-44.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:34.29 | tem | Step 1) YOU MUST BE DEEP FROST |
| 17:34.35 | DWSR | Check. |
| 17:34.45 | tem | Step 2) YOU MUST USE SLOW, DPS WEAPONS |
| 17:34.48 | DWSR | Check. |
| 17:35.01 | cog|work | Therefore you shouldn't be looking for defense imo... |
| 17:35.11 | DWSR | cog|work: You'll notice I did revise my criteria on that. |
| 17:35.24 | cog|work | DWSR: apparently i won't >< |
| 17:35.25 | Kraps | dps weaps? |
| 17:35.28 | cog|work | lol |
| 17:35.39 | DWSR | Kraps: Yes. DW tanking is tuend for DPS weapons. |
| 17:35.40 | tem | enchant them with Nerubian Carapace |
| 17:35.43 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 17:35.49 | tem | even if you don't need the extra defense |
| 17:36.02 | tem | the EH you gain from the 2% additional stam is worth it |
| 17:36.07 | Kraps | thats the rune? |
| 17:36.11 | DWSR | tem: Don't you end up with *more* avoidance as a DW tank? |
| 17:36.13 | DWSR | Kraps: Yes. |
| 17:36.21 | DWSR | Kraps: It's Stoneskin Gargoyle for 1 handers. |
| 17:36.23 | tem | DWSR, a marginal amount, yes |
| 17:36.43 | tem | you get the extra 3% miss from Frigid Dreadplate |
| 17:36.57 | tem | and you have agi on your weapons giving you a bit more dodge |
| 17:37.29 | tem | (the strength on my 2 hander is giving me some parry, but I'm fairly certain the agi on 1hs will be more dodge than I'm getting from the str) |
| 17:37.45 | tem | But |
| 17:37.48 | DWSR | tem: Suggestions for weapons that I can pick up out of heroics or <T9 raids? |
| 17:37.59 | DWSR | nevermind, WoWhead has filters for those. |
| 17:38.08 | cog|work | lulz... there's a group that wants to make "hella" the next SI prefix for 10^27 (above yotta, 10^24) |
| 17:38.11 | tem | There's an Axe in FoS I think |
| 17:38.19 | DWSR | tem: H HoR |
| 17:38.29 | DWSR | Unless you're thinking of a different axe. |
| 17:38.33 | DWSR | cog|work: Welcome to last week. :P |
| 17:38.38 | tem | what race are you? |
| 17:38.42 | DWSR | Nelf. |
| 17:38.45 | tem | oh |
| 17:38.59 | DWSR | tem: I avoided human on purpose. |
| 17:39.12 | tem | humans are goofy as hell |
| 17:39.22 | tem | but diplomacy |
| 17:39.28 | DWSR | Trinket racial's nice, but didn't want to have to deal with the weapon spec racfial. |
| 17:39.29 | DWSR | racial* |
| 17:39.34 | tem | and trinket racial |
| 17:39.41 | DWSR | tem: My main's a human. |
| 17:39.43 | tem | weapon spec ratial is a bitch |
| 17:39.48 | DWSR | uhuh |
| 17:39.51 | tem | I'm an orc now |
| 17:39.59 | DWSR | I figured Elusiveness > Diplomacy + EMfH |
| 17:40.02 | tem | and the only one handers I can get my hands on are maces |
| 17:40.13 | DWSR | lol |
| 17:40.16 | tem | Elisiveness = not worth anything |
| 17:40.20 | tem | You made an asthetic choice |
| 17:41.12 | tem | Elusiveness* |
| 17:41.12 | DWSR | What, 2% extra miss? |
| 17:41.12 | tem | You don't want to be missed |
| 17:41.12 | tem | you want to dodge/parry |
| 17:41.12 | DWSR | I'd rather be missed than hit. :P |
| 17:41.19 | tem | (not that it matters, since miss doesn't reduce you chance to dodge/parry) |
| 17:41.23 | DWSR | Wait, is miss higher on the avoidance table? |
| 17:41.41 | tem | it might be, but you'll never get enough of it to push anything off |
| 17:41.55 | tem | This is super weird |
| 17:41.58 | DWSR | True enough |
| 17:42.03 | tem | I can still hear the SC match that I crashed out of |
| 17:42.10 | tem | and I still can't find a process to kill to make it stop |
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| 17:42.19 | DWSR | tem: lol |
| 17:42.39 | cog|work | tem: change your default sound device and then change it back? |
| 17:42.47 | cog|work | might be something stuck in the driver |
| 17:43.17 | tem | I'm hearing people build units and throw them at each other |
| 17:43.20 | tem | it's really strange |
| 17:43.49 | tem | (changing default sound device and changing back had no effect) |
| 17:44.56 | DWSR | tem: Restart. |
| 17:45.30 | tem | oh god |
| 17:45.35 | tem | I am RETARDED |
| 17:45.42 | tem | I had a youtube open of a match |
| 17:45.49 | durcyn | you should know the rules of windows by now, for small problems reboot, for big problems reinstall |
| 17:48.59 | DWSR | lol tem |
| 17:49.09 | tem | bah |
| 17:49.13 | tem | and the video is worthless |
| 17:49.19 | tem | he's watching the wrong player |
| 17:50.07 | DWSR | tem: I'm using http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#j0EbZhxe0A0I0c0fuzAo0g <-- (cookie'd from EJ). Is there anyway that I can take IIT and/or Deathchill? |
| 17:50.29 | tem | you don't want IIT |
| 17:50.44 | Lunessa | tem: that's awesomely hilarious on SO many levels. |
| 17:50.47 | tem | death chill is nice to have, but one of the first things I drop when I need more points |
| 17:51.14 | tem | now I'm curious why you skipped cotg, though |
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| 17:51.16 | tem | hmms |
| 17:51.23 | tem | ah |
| 17:51.24 | tem | epidemic |
| 17:51.27 | tem | you don't need it |
| 17:51.40 | foxlit | This beta needs harder AI difficulties :/ |
| 17:51.44 | tem | I hate not having it |
| 17:52.07 | tem | but especially once they buff icy touch's threat, you'll get more tps out of not having it |
| 17:52.10 | foxlit | Wanted to see why I kept losing to protoss; ended up wiping the terran ai with three zealots. Meh! |
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| 17:52.23 | tem | yeah pretty much, foxlit |
| 17:52.34 | alestane | foxlit: Yes, right now there's only "very easy". |
| 17:52.45 | alestane | And *I* can destroy the AI. |
| 17:52.51 | foxlit | Suppose I could play a few custom games against actual people. |
| 17:52.51 | tem | maybe if we could set up 3or4v1 on the ais it would be better |
| 17:53.29 | DWSR | tem: Yeah, Frost Fever lasting an extra 6 seconds is nice. |
| 17:53.43 | DWSR | tem: I find I'm never short of runic power, but I've only really tanked heroics so far. |
| 17:54.17 | Lunessa | *facepalm* A guy complaining about settings not saving... was killing the game from the Task Manager. |
| 17:54.25 | Fisker | ââ¬ââ |
| 17:54.34 | foxlit | Exterminate, Fisker. |
| 17:54.39 | Fisker | nooo |
| 17:54.43 | DWSR | Eradicate, foxlit. |
| 17:54.45 | foxlit | EX-TER-MI-NATE! |
| 17:54.57 | Lunessa | DO NOT DE-VI-ATE! |
| 17:55.11 | DWSR | tem: SoB seems to provide all of the runic power that I need anyway. |
| 17:56.21 | DWSR | tem: Would it be better to use CotG over SoB since I have extra miss from talents + racial? |
| 17:56.32 | DWSR | (since SoB doesn't proc on misses)? |
| 17:56.44 | tem | no |
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| 18:01.26 | Kraps | DWSR: frost's mastery is more runic power. does that make sense? |
| 18:01.41 | DWSR | Kraps: Link to that preview. |
| 18:03.16 | Kraps | http://www.mmo-champion.com/news-2/mastery-system-preview/ |
| 18:03.21 | DWSR | Thanks |
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| 18:05.20 | DWSR | Kraps: Yes. |
| 18:05.49 | DWSR | Kraps: And it's RP generation. |
| 18:06.29 | Kraps | same difference? :p |
| 18:06.31 | DWSR | No. |
| 18:06.32 | Shadowed | ... well that was kind of a useless response |
| 18:06.45 | Kraps | my question still stands |
| 18:06.46 | DWSR | Kraps: More runic power is ambiguous. |
| 18:06.51 | DWSR | KRaps: Yes, it makes sense. |
| 18:07.08 | Shadowed | Send an email to Blizzard report asking what is required to verify you are an account owner and the response I get is "with proper verification" |
| 18:07.28 | DWSR | http://www.mmo-champion.com/news-2/mastery-system-preview/msg2278048/#msg2278048 <-- ahahaha |
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| 18:09.54 | Arathros | if (pisTank == nil and pisHeal == nil and pisDPS == nil) then <--- is this correct? |
| 18:10.13 | Lopeppeppy | Shadowed, check the Customer Service forum, I think they have a sticky FAQ that talks about that stuff. |
| 18:10.13 | Shadowed | You could do if not pisTank and not pisHeal and not pisDPS if you don't need to check if it's nil or false |
| 18:10.15 | Cide | is it syntactically valid? yes |
| 18:10.21 | Shadowed | Lopeppeppy: I didn't see anything when I looked |
| 18:10.30 | DWSR | Arathros: What shadowed said. |
| 18:10.55 | DWSR | if (not pisTank and not pisHeal and not pisDPS) then |
| 18:11.00 | Gnarfoz | piss dps :F |
| 18:11.06 | Kraps | ^ |
| 18:11.12 | DWSR | Gnarfoz: That's what my DK does. |
| 18:11.15 | DWSR | piss poor DPS. |
| 18:11.36 | olafski | lunessa: :D |
| 18:11.39 | Kraps | DWSR: why dont you take icy talons? |
| 18:11.51 | DWSR | Kraps: Because I need to spend the points elsewhere. |
| 18:11.59 | Kraps | its not a dps/tps increase? |
| 18:12.05 | Arathros | if (pisDPS ~= nil) then if not pisDPS then will also work? |
| 18:12.28 | DWSR | Arathros: No. |
| 18:12.37 | DWSR | Those are not equivalent, rather. |
| 18:12.49 | alestane | Generally, you'd want "if pisDPS then" |
| 18:13.07 | DWSR | Kraps: 25% melee haste? Who cares. |
| 18:13.36 | alestane | Doesn't have enough effect on the yellow damage that is a DK's bread and butter. |
| 18:13.38 | Lopeppeppy | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14318909866&sid=1 , post 4 |
| 18:13.41 | DWSR | right. |
| 18:13.57 | DWSR | Since all DK attacks are instant weapon swings anyway, 25% melee haste only increases yellow damage. |
| 18:14.00 | DWSR | err. |
| 18:14.02 | Kraps | mmk\ |
| 18:14.03 | Arathros | oh yeah lol |
| 18:14.04 | DWSR | s/yellow/white/ |
| 18:14.08 | Arathros | i dont like the not one ;P |
| 18:14.40 | DWSR | Kraps: Or, put another way. |
| 18:14.58 | DWSR | I'd rather have 20% additional shadow/frost damage and Oblit not consuming my diseases. |
| 18:15.21 | Kraps | yeah, i'm just stuck in the warrior minndset |
| 18:15.36 | DWSR | Kraps: Haste is a shit warrior stat anyway, isn't it? |
| 18:15.57 | DWSR | tem: Is IFP's "keep % stam in other presences" just a convenience thing? |
| 18:16.08 | tem | yes |
| 18:16.14 | alestane | Arathros, the usual way to write a compound condition like that would be |
| 18:16.14 | alestane | if not (pisTank or pisHeal or pisDPS) then |
| 18:16.23 | Kraps | i wont chase it but more white attacks = more rage |
| 18:16.54 | alestane | I've loaded some of it, although that's also because it offsets one of the drawbacks of my 2handers. |
| 18:17.03 | DWSR | Kraps: don't you have effectively unlimited rage anyway as prot? |
| 18:17.22 | DWSR | alestane: ?? Icy Talons? |
| 18:17.29 | Kraps | yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 18:18.02 | alestane | DWSR: No, haste on my warrior. |
| 18:18.12 | DWSR | Ah. |
| 18:18.28 | alestane | It offsets the effect of wielding big honking zweihanders with Titan's Grip. |
| 18:18.33 | DWSR | Kraps: also, aren't you the unrelenting assault tank spec? |
| 18:18.46 | Kraps | no |
| 18:18.48 | DWSR | Everyone knows that one is the bets. |
| 18:18.49 | DWSR | best* |
| 18:19.37 | DWSR | Probably the most hilarious thing I ever saw was a UA orc tank that was swinging every 0.25 seconds with that build in Naxx. |
| 18:19.50 | DWSR | I'm pretty sure the game just gave him an extra arm at one point. |
| 18:20.06 | NightHawkTheSane | alestane: from what i hear, at a certain point, fury warriors are basically constantly at full rage anyway, so more haste doesn't help QUITE that much |
| 18:20.15 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 18:20.37 | alestane | It is possible to ending up getting it faster than you can burn it if you're not very focused, yes. |
| 18:23.09 | DWSR | Well, isn't rage based on how much you hit for (at least partially)? |
| 18:23.31 | DWSR | So, if you're lugging around 2 2H weapons, you're hitting for a lot and you should cap out after a swing or two |
| 18:23.54 | alestane | Rage input gets very "lumpy" when you're wielding 2 2-handers. |
| 18:24.10 | DWSR | yeah, that I can see. |
| 18:24.17 | DWSR | swing 100 RAGE ZOMG |
| 18:24.25 | alestane | But the other advantage to at least a little haste is that my main rage dump is usualy Cleave. |
| 18:24.26 | DWSR | the you have to wait like a month to swing with the other one |
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| 18:24.45 | DWSR | Hunters and DKs are the only classes with fixed GCDs right? |
| 18:25.03 | NightHawkTheSane | DKs are gcd fixed? |
| 18:25.04 | alestane | Since Cleave is synched to my swings, more haste means I can actually dump rage a smidge faster. |
| 18:25.06 | NightHawkTheSane | also, no... |
| 18:25.16 | NightHawkTheSane | cat druids & rogues are fixed at 1s gcd |
| 18:26.42 | cbreak | I wonder if anyone suggested to blizzard that the character list when logging in should be sorted by level |
| 18:26.47 | DWSR | NHTS: nvm, I misread something. |
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| 18:26.56 | DWSR | cbreak: It isn't? |
| 18:27.06 | olafski | would you like that to be true cbreak? oO |
| 18:27.06 | cbreak | it's sorted by creation time I think |
| 18:27.08 | cbreak | (or ID) |
| 18:27.13 | DWSR | cbreak: Ah. |
| 18:27.13 | Scriblet | Question, what LUA editors do you guys use? I'm a semi-noob programmer (worked with C# XNA) and I'm going to attempt to update an addon that's been giving me errors... |
| 18:27.27 | cbreak | Scriblet: I use TextWrangler to edit Lua |
| 18:27.29 | DWSR | Scriblet: If you're just looking to fix an addon, pick up a text editor with syntax highlighting. |
| 18:27.29 | Shirik | Vim |
| 18:27.30 | olafski | just some text editor with syntax highlighting |
| 18:27.35 | DWSR | Scriblet: Vim, Emacs, or Notepad++ |
| 18:27.46 | Shirik | EMACS IS EVIL |
| 18:27.48 | cbreak | if you use Vim, alwas remember: |
| 18:27.51 | DWSR | ~failrik |
| 18:27.52 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 18:27.55 | cbreak | :wq! |
| 18:28.17 | Shirik | you know what's stupid |
| 18:28.19 | DWSR | cbreak: Write then quit? |
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| 18:28.24 | Shirik | There is no :o! |
| 18:28.34 | Shirik | So if you want to open a new file discarding changes |
| 18:28.36 | Shirik | you can't |
| 18:28.48 | DWSR | Shirik: Can't you close a file then open another one? |
| 18:28.48 | cbreak | DWSR: yes. |
| 18:28.48 | Shirik | You do :o and it tells you to use ! to force it |
| 18:28.53 | DWSR | :co! or something? |
| 18:28.57 | Shirik | and then you do :o! and it tells you you can't use ! |
| 18:30.33 | DWSR | blah. |
| 18:30.43 | DWSR | I wish chrome would equate . to the enter key when typing a non-url. |
| 18:30.53 | Shirik | hahaha |
| 18:31.02 | Shirik | Someone posts an article on WP, a bot detects a copyright violation and tags it |
| 18:31.16 | Shirik | So he removes it and adds {{bots|deny=all}} |
| 18:31.18 | cbreak | why? I don't think that would be nice. You could only ever write one sentence. |
| 18:31.19 | Shirik | (A flag that disables bots) |
| 18:31.30 | Shirik | Clever little troll |
| 18:31.40 | Scriblet | k downloading Vim |
| 18:31.43 | cbreak | how can a bot detect a copyright violation? |
| 18:31.44 | Scriblet | in just a sec |
| 18:31.51 | cbreak | Good luck Scriblet ! |
| 18:31.54 | Shirik | cbreak: It's surprisingly accurate |
| 18:32.07 | Shirik | I don't know how it works |
| 18:32.21 | DWSR | Scriblet: If you're not used to a terminal environment, you're probably better off using Notepad++, just saying. |
| 18:32.27 | DWSR | Scriblet: Vim's learning curve is pretty steep. |
| 18:32.33 | Scriblet | ah |
| 18:32.33 | Scriblet | kk |
| 18:32.38 | cbreak | it's vertical |
| 18:32.41 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 18:32.48 | Scriblet | notepad++ then... I'm used to microsoft's C# editor D: |
| 18:32.55 | DWSR | yeah, notepad++ for sure then. |
| 18:33.09 | Scriblet | k |
| 18:33.09 | cbreak | if you are on OS X, which you probably are not (Microsoft Zombie!), TextWrangler is great. |
| 18:33.12 | clever | DWSR: :wq! is to write, and then forcibly quit, i almost never use the ! |
| 18:33.26 | DWSR | clever: Yeah, can't you just use :wq and have that work? |
| 18:33.27 | cbreak | vim deserves to be yelled at |
| 18:33.34 | clever | DWSR: yeah i always use :wq |
| 18:33.38 | NightHawkTheSane | DWSR: you can. except when you can't |
| 18:33.38 | cbreak | I use ! out of principle |
| 18:33.46 | DWSR | lol |
| 18:34.07 | DWSR | Scriblet: This is the learning curve of Vim (look at the one of EVE Online) http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3088/2335016192_6003c39c4c.jpg |
| 18:34.12 | NightHawkTheSane | (if the write fails for some reason, :wq will just throw an error back at you) |
| 18:34.45 | DWSR | NHTS: Generally that's a good thing, amirite? |
| 18:34.56 | NightHawkTheSane | i didn't say it wasn't :P |
| 18:35.01 | clever | NightHawkTheSane: yeah, and i want to see that error and not loose everything |
| 18:35.02 | NightHawkTheSane | but you might not care. |
| 18:35.04 | cog|work | http://techcrunch.com/2010/02/19/pmsbuddy-helps-men-track-that-time-of-the-month/ |
| 18:35.12 | DWSR | cog|work: Welcome to LAST YEAR |
| 18:35.26 | cog|work | why, thank you |
| 18:35.44 | NightHawkTheSane | man, i wish i was in last year |
| 18:36.53 | DWSR | patch data hit the downloader. |
| 18:37.52 | DWSR | Realms are up, btw. |
| 18:38.19 | NightHawkTheSane | DWSR: welcome to LAST NIGHT. |
| 18:38.19 | cog|work | with qualifiers |
| 18:38.31 | DWSR | NHTS: MAINTENANCE, OK NHTS? |
| 18:38.36 | NightHawkTheSane | :P |
| 18:38.37 | DWSR | TIME MOTHERFUCKER, DO YOU KEEP TRACK OF IT? |
| 18:38.42 | DWSR | :P |
| 18:38.55 | NightHawkTheSane | yes, and patch data was available, last night. :P |
| 18:39.16 | DWSR | I guess I must have been logged in for 7 straight hours last night, because my downloaded didn't pop. |
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| 18:40.55 | Gnarfoz | <cog|work> http://techcrunch.com/2010/02/19/pmsbuddy-helps-men-track-that-time-of-the-month/ <-- cool, I did that by hand up to now |
| 18:41.24 | cog|work | chuckles |
| 18:41.51 | cog|work | come on, kirin tor! most of the rest of your battlegroup is up! |
| 18:42.33 | Dashkal_ | Heh, I'll be happy when the android version comes out :P |
| 18:42.51 | cog|work | get your wimmins on the pill. then all you need is a calendar |
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| 18:42.59 | Dashkal_ | exit |
| 18:43.15 | Dashkal | oops, didn't realize I had two irc sessions going |
| 18:43.20 | Kraps | http://www.wow.com/2010/03/09/breakfast-topic-favorite-names/4#comments |
| 18:43.41 | Kraps | they're all great |
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| 18:48.26 | mikma | hehee, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgpJPJ7MAZ0 |
| 18:48.29 | Scriblet | lol@eve online learning curve. One of my professors LOVES eve |
| 18:50.22 | cog|work | eve learning curve: _| |
| 18:50.48 | DWSR | http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3088/2335016192_6003c39c4c.jpg <-- EVE learning curve. |
| 18:51.03 | Scriblet | Have any of you ever heard of the mod "Do I Know You"? |
| 18:51.12 | DWSR | Nope. |
| 18:51.23 | Scriblet | it's the mod I'm wanting to update |
| 18:51.27 | DWSR | Ok. |
| 18:51.30 | Scriblet | lets you keep notes on every player in the game. |
| 18:51.39 | Scriblet | I haven't found anything similar |
| 18:54.32 | olafski | there are several that do that afaik |
| 18:55.15 | Lunessa | Yes, I've heard of it. No, I don't believe it's being updated any longer. |
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| 18:56.13 | Scriblet | I haven't found anything that does it nearly as well =/ |
| 18:56.26 | Scriblet | if you know of any, I'd like to see them |
| 18:56.44 | Scriblet | I already have 520+ notes saved in Do I Know You though >.< |
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| 18:57.33 | alestane | Down ot one lastblinking coin in the fountain. |
| 18:57.57 | Lopeppeppy | Gonna take a miracle |
| 18:58.46 | Lunessa | People who want to yell at me because they didn't save files makes me want to punch them instead of help them. |
| 18:59.07 | Shadowed | Take solace in the fact that they lost whatever they worked on |
| 18:59.32 | Shadowed | actually I don't even know if that's the right usage of solace |
| 18:59.41 | Shadowed | Oh hey it is |
| 19:00.09 | alestane | Take comfort in the fact that despite the changing fortunes of time, things can only be worse in Milwaukee. |
| 19:00.32 | sylvanaar_atwork | i have FFXIII in my hand, i'll take solace in that |
| 19:00.49 | Lopeppeppy | hides under the desk until the storm is over. |
| 19:01.43 | alestane | You has thunderstorm? |
| 19:01.53 | Lopeppeppy | I has Lunessa's wrath! |
| 19:02.07 | Lunessa | alestane: Yes, they have only Pabst Blue Ribbon |
| 19:02.26 | cog|work | Lunessa's wrath is a force of nature |
| 19:02.43 | cog|work | (esp since his main's a shammy) |
| 19:02.46 | Lunessa | I am a Wrath Elemental |
| 19:03.01 | Lunessa | Servant of the Elder of of Fu |
| 19:05.08 | olafski | scriblet: that may be true.. will you take over the project or make a fan update? |
| 19:07.04 | Gnarfoz | fuck fan updates |
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| 19:07.57 | alestane | Hot Damn! There it goes! |
| 19:08.09 | alestane | (Uhter Lightbringer's Gold Coin) |
| 19:08.16 | cog|work | woot |
| 19:08.21 | Lunessa | Gratz. |
| 19:08.33 | cog|work | now you have the power to bring up kirin tor! |
| 19:09.21 | Lopeppeppy | Go go gadget coin fisherman! |
| 19:09.49 | alestane | So it just flips heads or tails? |
| 19:10.20 | cog|work | alestane: you did it! |
| 19:10.22 | cog|work | <3 |
| 19:10.31 | Cide | <DWSR> http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3088/2335016192_6003c39c4c.jpg <-- EVE learning curve. |
| 19:10.35 | Cide | someone explain that to me |
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| 19:10.49 | Cide | it seems to imply that your skill increases tremendously fast |
| 19:10.58 | Cide | that would be the opposite of a high learning curve, no? |
| 19:11.02 | Lopeppeppy | Apparently the learning curve is incredibly steep and leads to massive lemming suicides. |
| 19:11.11 | Cide | it's not a learning curve though |
| 19:11.15 | Cide | it's a skill/time curve |
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| 19:11.25 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, I see what you're seeing, now. |
| 19:11.35 | Cide | learning curve is the opposite; time/skill |
| 19:12.11 | Cide | I hate incorrect "math" jokes |
| 19:12.50 | cog|work | Cide: i think rather than "gaming skill" it should be "skill necessary to excel at the game" |
| 19:13.11 | Cide | that wouldn't make much sense to be graphed over time though |
| 19:13.17 | cog|work | nope |
| 19:13.24 | Cide | fail graph is fail |
| 19:13.27 | cog|work | at least not in general |
| 19:13.45 | cog|work | it actually would work for eve since you can excel through the tutorial and then you're pretty much on your own |
| 19:14.01 | Cide | well |
| 19:14.17 | Cide | to an extent, yeah |
| 19:14.23 | Cide | oh well |
| 19:14.26 | Cide | fail graph imo |
| 19:14.36 | Shirik | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 19:14.55 | cog|work | Cide: or it may be indicating that anyone without inherent skill in the game quits so isn't counted in the data set :P |
| 19:15.04 | cog|work | aren't* |
| 19:15.19 | Cide | it's also funny from another perspective |
| 19:15.27 | Cide | it basically says that eve is easy to learn and easy to master |
| 19:15.35 | Cide | since gaming skill is capped early |
| 19:16.13 | Lopeppeppy | hides Shirik. |
| 19:16.41 | Shirik | why hide :( |
| 19:17.01 | Lopeppeppy | I coveteth. |
| 19:17.41 | alestane | So other people won't swipe her huggles, I think. |
| 19:18.04 | Cide | oh wtf |
| 19:18.06 | Cide | I hate facebook |
| 19:18.16 | Cide | defriends Cairenn|afk |
| 19:18.30 | Lopeppeppy | Awwwww. |
| 19:19.24 | Shirik | double-friends Lopeppeppy |
| 19:19.28 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:19.35 | Fisker | meant to slap Shirik |
| 19:20.06 | Kraps | failsker |
| 19:20.35 | Fisker | Craps |
| 19:21.23 | DWSR | ~fail Fisker |
| 19:21.24 | purl | Fisker, you Fail! |
| 19:23.28 | DWSR | Tank emblems/hour is so imba. |
| 19:25.14 | Kraps | muahaha |
| 19:25.28 | Kraps | not healer? |
| 19:26.49 | DWSR | Not in my bgroup |
| 19:26.54 | DWSR | even healers wait longer than tanks. |
| 19:27.09 | haste | they do that as well on GB |
| 19:27.21 | haste | but we'r talking 5-45seconds difference |
| 19:27.33 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ |
| 19:27.51 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, healers wait longer than tanks, but it still usually pops in under a minute |
| 19:27.53 | Kraps | i only one heroic a day now |
| 19:28.00 | DWSR | yeah. |
| 19:28.04 | DWSR | But I've run like 300 heroics. |
| 19:28.08 | Kraps | but im thinking |
| 19:29.20 | NightHawkTheSane | that's good. maybe next week you'll move up to coherent thought. |
| 19:29.35 | Arathros | getting a funny error |
| 19:29.43 | Arathros | my target of target. |
| 19:29.53 | Arathros | if someone is targetting someone i cant see. then what? |
| 19:29.53 | DWSR | NHTS: yeah. |
| 19:30.06 | DWSR | Arathros: Need to give more info than that |
| 19:30.28 | Lopeppeppy | can't see, or is out of range? |
| 19:30.32 | Kraps | 1 run heroics |
| 19:30.34 | Kraps | 2 buy a bunch of epic red gems |
| 19:30.35 | Kraps | 3 buy a bunch of epic red gems off the AH |
| 19:30.37 | Kraps | 4 corner the market |
| 19:30.39 | Kraps | 5 ????? |
| 19:30.40 | Kraps | 6 profit!!! |
| 19:30.43 | Arathros | dunno let me replicate output |
| 19:30.47 | DWSR | too many steps. |
| 19:31.02 | NightHawkTheSane | it kind of ignores the part where anyone else can do the same thing? |
| 19:31.14 | Kraps | NightHawkTheSane: do they? |
| 19:31.23 | NightHawkTheSane | all the time. |
| 19:31.23 | Kraps | DO THEY?! |
| 19:32.33 | Kraps | never said it wasnt risky |
| 19:32.53 | Kraps | should do it on a early weekday |
| 19:32.54 | Arathros | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:33.09 | Arathros | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:33.23 | DWSR | Yeah.. |
| 19:33.28 | DWSR | Need more context. |
| 19:33.46 | NightHawkTheSane | that does remind me though. i have a few hundred emblems that can probably stand to be converted to gems and sold. |
| 19:33.47 | Arathros | well only thing i need a check to see if i can see it lol |
| 19:34.03 | DWSR | Arathros: Pastebin the whole file. |
| 19:34.21 | Arathros | lol is it ok i pastebin the function? ;P |
| 19:34.31 | Arathros | 600+ lines ;P |
| 19:34.36 | Kalroth | what happens if there is no targettarget? |
| 19:34.52 | Kalroth | do you do select(2, nil) then? |
| 19:34.54 | Arathros | well i target a player that has a target i cant get info on |
| 19:35.06 | haste | Arathros: UnitClass() can return nil |
| 19:35.08 | Arathros | guessing thats the problem |
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| 19:36.21 | Arathros | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/133962 |
| 19:36.24 | Arathros | still cleaning it up |
| 19:36.47 | Adys | http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1617 |
| 19:36.58 | foxlit | sees the PP prefix. |
| 19:37.00 | foxlit | flees. |
| 19:37.07 | Kraps | DWSR: steps 3 and 4 are really the same step, my bad |
| 19:38.07 | Arathros | hehe just to keep it unique in a way |
| 19:38.12 | Arathros | dont know of any PP mods ;P |
| 19:38.36 | foxlit | I keep losing my certificate private key password :/ |
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| 19:39.41 | Arathros | for me i see its simpler to replicate what i need to make... like dura frame than to use blizzards because i dont know jack shit on the hook frame shit |
| 19:41.22 | DWSR | lol at being able to interrupt throw. |
| 19:41.44 | durcyn | foxlit: passphrases are for pussies. |
| 19:42.06 | foxlit | I'm sure I pick a new one each time. |
| 19:42.16 | foxlit | I just forget it immediately after using it. Terrible! |
| 19:42.23 | DWSR | one time passwords? |
| 19:43.21 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/misc/OFP2ownage.PNG |
| 19:43.27 | mikma | i had a blast playing OFP2 :D |
| 19:43.49 | DWSR | OFP2? |
| 19:44.16 | mikma | Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising |
| 19:44.28 | DWSR | Oh, nice. :) |
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| 19:44.49 | DWSR | look like you gave those scoundrels a sound thrashing. |
| 19:45.29 | DWSR | s/look/looks/ |
| 19:45.39 | Kraps | anyone here seen/read Speak? |
| 19:47.09 | Arathros | how should i prevent out of sight targets from loading? |
| 19:47.13 | Arathros | what can i test with |
| 19:47.14 | Kalroth | http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/954/computerscience.jpg |
| 19:47.30 | Kalroth | from loading? |
| 19:48.01 | Arathros | well targettarget |
| 19:48.49 | Arathros | what can i use to check if its visible or not |
| 19:49.41 | Kalroth | No idea, I'd probably go scavenging a unit frame or raid frame addon for that |
| 19:49.51 | Kalroth | if by visible you mean within range |
| 19:50.07 | Arathros | well visible as i mean. i can get the info i need.. HP and class |
| 19:50.28 | Arathros | and lvl ;P but those arent sent though targettarget.. they are picked up from me beeing able to see it |
| 19:50.34 | DWSR | Arathros: UnitExists("targettarget") |
| 19:51.19 | DWSR | What causes the H ToC5 bug? |
| 19:51.35 | DWSR | (the one where the champs reset after you've knocked them down off their horses) |
| 19:51.54 | foxlit | reset to what state? |
| 19:52.31 | DWSR | As if yoyu had wiped. |
| 19:52.54 | Arathros | they just reset |
| 19:53.17 | Arathros | when you engage.. its really odd actually. but i guess its a evadebug and bam. they reset |
| 19:53.21 | nevcairiel | i think it happens when you fight them too close the gate |
| 19:53.40 | nevcairiel | s/close/close to/ |
| 19:53.40 | DWSR | It's really fucking annoying. |
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| 19:54.16 | foxlit | So how did they kite Precious to Fordring's room? |
| 19:54.34 | DWSR | huh? |
| 19:55.24 | Arathros | if ((pptartar_name) and (UnitExists("targettarget") == 1)) then |
| 19:55.28 | Arathros | that should work then? |
| 19:56.02 | foxlit | http://www.wow.com/2010/03/08/goon-squad-downs-tirion-fordring/ |
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| 19:58.10 | alestane | if pptarttar_name and UnitExists("targettarget") then |
| 19:58.10 | alestane | should suffice, but yeah, that's a basic guard expression. |
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| 20:00.32 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: does Precious aggro if you engage either of his wing's bosses? ^^ |
| 20:00.35 | Kraps | Shirik |
| 20:00.53 | foxlit | Gnarfoz: the whole thing is weird. |
| 20:01.03 | foxlit | How did the dog get up to the throne? |
| 20:01.09 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: it has Goon Squad in it, what do you expect? :D |
| 20:01.24 | Shirik | Kraps |
| 20:01.25 | Gnarfoz | foxlit: in combat with someone who went through the teleporter? |
| 20:01.37 | foxlit | So the dog ports? Usually it's the other way around |
| 20:01.37 | Gnarfoz | or just as possible the teleporter simply works for mobs, too |
| 20:01.57 | Gnarfoz | easy to check with those roaming val'kyr |
| 20:02.08 | Kraps | Shirik: wtf is strategy wiki? |
| 20:02.09 | foxlit | Can you even port without killing everything below? |
| 20:02.22 | DWSR | You can't port in combat. |
| 20:02.37 | Shirik | it's a bit complex, I'll explain a bit later, in a class atm |
| 20:02.48 | foxlit | I'm pretty sure I've used that porter in combat. |
| 20:02.57 | Gnarfoz | DWSR: have you seen the LK? |
| 20:03.18 | Kraps | Shirik: [14:56]<eekim>Wikimedia Strategy office hours starts in a few minutes in #wikimedia-strategy |
| 20:03.26 | DWSR | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm03136FTI4 <-- rofl. |
| 20:03.33 | Shirik | yeah every week |
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| 20:29.25 | DWSR | RAWRRAWRRAWR |
| 20:29.26 | DWSR | I AM TANK |
| 20:32.26 | Kraps | you dont have a shield, WHAT KIND OF TANK ARE YOU |
| 20:33.13 | DWSR | A TANKITY TANK |
| 20:33.15 | DWSR | LEARN TO TANK |
| 20:34.06 | Kraps | HERE IS MY SHIELD, WATCH ME SMASH IT INTO UR FASE |
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| 20:35.30 | DWSR | dunno how you're going to. |
| 20:35.34 | DWSR | YOU CAN'T HIT ME |
| 20:36.54 | Lopeppeppy | Someone shot the food. |
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| 20:43.46 | Lunessa | Warrior needs food badly! Elf shot the food! Elf is about to die! |
| 20:44.16 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 20:44.21 | DWSR | lol |
| 20:44.22 | Dagmar | Personally, I think Elf shoudn't have been able to kill the food |
| 20:44.35 | DWSR | Shadowed |
| 20:44.43 | Dagmar | "Oh lewk, it's a roast ham with an arrow through it. *removes arrow* Still tasty, tho" |
| 20:44.48 | Adys | http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2010/03/mozilla-borrows-from-webkit-to-build-fast-new-js-engine.ars |
| 20:44.52 | Adys | "Admitting defeat" |
| 20:45.10 | Dagmar | It's not a race, Adys |
| 20:45.25 | Adys | I know of 5 corps disagreeing with you |
| 20:47.24 | Shadowed | what DWSR |
| 20:47.36 | DWSR | elitistarmory lists +8arp +12stam as a DPS socket? |
| 20:47.38 | DWSR | err. |
| 20:47.40 | kd3 | whee |
| 20:47.43 | DWSR | DPS jem* |
| 20:47.45 | DWSR | gem* |
| 20:47.46 | DWSR | FAK |
| 20:47.52 | kd3 | I'm getting an endoscope stuffed down my throat |
| 20:47.53 | kd3 | yay |
| 20:47.54 | DWSR | Puissant Twilight Opal, btw. |
| 20:47.59 | DWSR | kd3: atm or in a while? |
| 20:48.03 | Lopeppeppy | Oof, unfun, kd3. |
| 20:48.10 | kd3 | a few weeks |
| 20:48.18 | Lopeppeppy | In a while probably, DWSR, they usually put one to sleep for that crap. |
| 20:48.19 | Shadowed | shouldn't |
| 20:48.21 | Shadowed | link the profile |
| 20:48.31 | Lopeppeppy | What alien life forms are they looking for, kd3? |
| 20:48.36 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: Sometimes they do it with local. |
| 20:48.38 | DWSR | Shadowed: Sec. |
| 20:48.47 | kd3 | nah, I'm getting an IV with the good stuff in it |
| 20:48.54 | kd3 | can't drive home after the fact |
| 20:49.09 | DWSR | http://elitistarmory.com/US/Emerald%20Dream/Arelin |
| 20:49.11 | kd3 | lope; dunno. they're going to figure out why I'm choking on food so much |
| 20:49.19 | Lunessa | kd3: Sucks man, endoscopy is the pits. |
| 20:49.28 | DWSR | Shadowed: Puissant twilight opal in the legs. |
| 20:49.31 | Lopeppeppy | pretty much what I had last week, kd3. :) For my hand though. I hope they find something small and easily fixed! |
| 20:50.04 | DWSR | kd3, you know, if you just shove something really huge down your throat.... [/innuendo] :P |
| 20:50.17 | kd3 | lmao |
| 20:50.48 | Shadowed | Er, you mean it's listing it as not a DPS gem? |
| 20:51.06 | DWSR | Hold on, the JS has stopped working for me. |
| 20:51.11 | Shadowed | I broke it somehow |
| 20:51.14 | Shadowed | hang on |
| 20:51.42 | DWSR | Shadowed: Yes. |
| 20:51.51 | DWSR | Shadowed: Anyway, it's listing it as not being a valid tank gem. |
| 20:51.55 | Shadowed | It's not a valid tank gem |
| 20:51.55 | DWSR | And yes, I agree it's not optimal. |
| 20:52.03 | DWSR | It's got stam on it, why the hell not? |
| 20:52.26 | Shadowed | There's not reason you should be gemming armor pen, if you need a tank gem for red/blue use parry/sta, dodge/sta or hell agi/sta |
| 20:52.44 | Shadowed | not = no |
| 20:52.46 | Dagmar | Endoscopy beats the hell out of slicing you open to shind a flashlight in there |
| 20:52.48 | DWSR | Or str/stam? :P |
| 20:53.02 | Dagmar | Like, *hands down* endoscopy wins |
| 20:53.03 | kd3 | Dagmar, indeed |
| 20:53.13 | Shadowed | k tooltips fixed |
| 20:53.14 | DWSR | heh, you also broke the JS tooltips again Shadowed. :P |
| 20:53.27 | DWSR | There we go. |
| 20:53.27 | Dagmar | I've had one of my knees seriously rebuilt 6-million dollar man style twice now endoscopically |
| 20:53.50 | Shadowed | It shouldn't be flagged as a DPS gem thought |
| 20:54.16 | Dagmar | The last time they were about to do a second procedure to install a checker-sized piece of cartiledge they _cloned_ from me. ALl this done through two tiny holes |
| 20:54.39 | DWSR | Shadowed: Actually, it should. |
| 20:54.47 | Lopeppeppy | My hand surgery incision is an inch long. Very neat. |
| 20:54.54 | Dagmar | I made the doctor ask the question of how I felt about cloning tissue in front of both my housemates tho. ;) |
| 20:54.54 | DWSR | Shadowed: what if you need to fill a socket bonus and you're gemming ArP? |
| 20:55.06 | DWSR | There's no other useful offensive stats for melee DPS in blue. |
| 20:55.22 | DWSR | You'd rather them gem arp/spirit? |
| 20:55.27 | Shadowed | I'm pretty sure you're wrong, but I'm hungry and going to go eat |
| 20:55.32 | Lunessa | Dagmar: Endoscopy is a great medical tool. Having to have it done still sucks. |
| 20:55.34 | Shadowed | so I'll check later |
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| 20:55.59 | DWSR | My tanking set. |
| 20:55.59 | Dagmar | Lunessa: yeah but it's _vastly_ preferable to what they did before they learned how to make the little cameras |
| 20:56.01 | DWSR | SHE IS ALMOST COMPLETE |
| 20:56.07 | DWSR | cackles maniacally. |
| 20:56.14 | DWSR | maniacally(sp?) |
| 20:56.14 | batbot | DWSR, maniacally is correct. |
| 20:56.15 | Dagmar | kd3 would almost glow in the dark from all the xrays |
| 20:56.16 | DWSR | thanks. |
| 20:57.02 | Dagmar | DWSR: Congrats. I"m still only about halfway there |
| 20:57.09 | Lunessa | Dagmar: I concur, still, I stand by my statement that getting it done sucks. It could be worse, but worse is the eternal relative. |
| 20:57.14 | DWSR | Dagmar: Yeah, it's been not too bad. |
| 20:57.15 | DWSR | 5 days. |
| 20:59.21 | DWSR | btw. |
| 20:59.35 | DWSR | As a total segway from nothing. |
| 20:59.45 | DWSR | Did the movie Surrogates remind ANYONE of World of Warcraft? |
| 20:59.47 | Dagmar | *chuckles* |
| 21:00.09 | Dagmar | s-e-q-u-e |
| 21:00.16 | DWSR | true. |
| 21:00.19 | Dagmar | *facepalm* |
| 21:00.24 | Dagmar | s-e-g-u-e |
| 21:01.02 | DWSR | palms Dagmar's face. |
| 21:01.23 | DWSR | can you pop 2 on use trinkets at once? |
| 21:01.31 | DWSR | Or does it create a cooldown in between? |
| 21:01.50 | Dagmar | You used to be able to, so it might be based on the trinket |
| 21:02.06 | DWSR | Guess I should do up some macros for my death knight. |
| 21:02.08 | Dagmar | Awesome video on the top of fail blog today by the way |
| 21:02.10 | DWSR | RUNE STRIKE TO EVERYTHING GG |
| 21:02.42 | kd3 | wtfs at cisco |
| 21:02.47 | kd3 | 322Tbit/s router? |
| 21:03.14 | DWSR | ROFL |
| 21:04.16 | Dagmar | kd3: Yeah things are getting that way, although I doubt you'll see that in use outside a PAX or something equally expensive |
| 21:04.32 | Dagmar | Just think... |
| 21:04.45 | Dagmar | The people buying those will probably need them in _pairs_ for redundancy, too. |
| 21:04.47 | DWSR | http://www.viddler.com/explore/failblog/videos/472/ |
| 21:05.04 | Dagmar | If yer 322Tbit router falls over without a backup... LOL |
| 21:05.31 | Dashkal | ~. |
| 21:05.32 | purl | . |
| 21:05.43 | Dagmar | DWSR: I was talking about the pumping station, actually |
| 21:05.56 | DWSR | Dagmar: Yes, I know. |
| 21:06.00 | DWSR | That one was pretty epic as well. |
| 21:06.08 | DWSR | http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/129122414923177274.jpg |
| 21:07.25 | nevcairiel | hahaha |
| 21:08.00 | DWSR | http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/epic-fail-clueless-fail.jpg |
| 21:09.01 | DWSR | http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/epic-fail-vending-machine-win.jpg |
| 21:09.14 | DWSR | http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/epic-fail-product-naming-fail.jpg |
| 21:09.48 | DWSR | http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/epic-fail-thug-fail.jpg |
| 21:09.51 | DWSR | and done. |
| 21:09.53 | DWSR | food, bbl. |
| 21:13.58 | Fisker | hey kd |
| 21:14.00 | Fisker | ffffuuuuuuuuuuuu- |
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| 21:14.17 | olafski | would the change to parry in cataclysm be considered a nerf, buff, or neutral? |
| 21:14.44 | Fisker | nerf |
| 21:15.01 | nevcairiel | its probably somewhat of a nerf |
| 21:15.06 | Fisker | It is a nerf :P |
| 21:15.12 | Fisker | But they had to do something |
| 21:15.14 | nevcairiel | but they wanted a bit of variaty in the stats |
| 21:15.20 | Fisker | The other solution was probably removing parry all together |
| 21:16.27 | Fisker | The idea is that they can make sure we take hits, but still provide some kind of mitigation at the loss of avoidance |
| 21:16.36 | olafski | hmm |
| 21:16.38 | Lopeppeppy | It's always a nerf! |
| 21:16.40 | Lopeppeppy | NERF!!! |
| 21:16.40 | olafski | it sounded like a buff to me :/ |
| 21:16.45 | Fisker | how? |
| 21:16.53 | Fisker | Before the nerf you didn't take, now you take damage |
| 21:17.04 | olafski | yeah but it takes 50% off of the next hit as well doesn't it? |
| 21:17.07 | nevcairiel | eh, all stat changes cant really be thought of as buffs or nerfs anyway |
| 21:17.11 | olafski | sounds like more predictable damage instead of spiky |
| 21:17.15 | nevcairiel | they redo the whole thing |
| 21:17.17 | Fisker | agreed there nevcairiel |
| 21:17.36 | nevcairiel | also, wtb masterys for druids |
| 21:17.43 | olafski | I'm talking about what parry does, that isn't a stat change is it? |
| 21:17.57 | Fisker | oh |
| 21:18.03 | Fisker | i misunderstood the parry change then |
| 21:18.12 | olafski | maybe I misunderstood it, that's also possible |
| 21:18.15 | Fisker | nah |
| 21:18.16 | Fisker | i did |
| 21:18.18 | eidolarr | what happens if you parry twice in a row? |
| 21:18.24 | olafski | I thought they said block - 30% mitigation, dodge 100%, parry 50% on two attacks |
| 21:18.42 | Fisker | they did |
| 21:18.47 | Fisker | i thought it waas only 50% on one attack |
| 21:19.33 | Fisker | Well i'd call it pretty much neutral then |
| 21:20.15 | Fisker | but it's silly to discuss anyway |
| 21:20.19 | Fisker | given that everything is changing |
| 21:20.23 | Fisker | or a lot of it is |
| 21:20.32 | Torhal | Fisker: You cannot change me. |
| 21:20.52 | Fisker | i could if i would |
| 21:21.06 | Fisker | i totally trolled some atifag |
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| 21:27.20 | DWSR | they're trying to even out the spikes in incoming tank damage with the parry change |
| 21:28.00 | DWSR | It's avoidance vs. mitigation |
| 21:28.51 | DWSR | eidolarr: If you parry twice in a row? You'll probably get an extra 50% off of another 2 subsequent attacks, I'd imagine. |
| 21:29.12 | olafski | hmm |
| 21:29.15 | DWSR | eidolarr: Though, you could very well get a 75% mitigation off of that attack and other 50% on the next one after. |
| 21:29.16 | olafski | wouldn't be too sure about that |
| 21:29.23 | DWSR | So you'll get 50%, 75%, 50%. |
| 21:31.30 | eidolarr | It seems like if that's not the case, parry is nerfed afterall, since doing it several times in a row is weaker now |
| 21:31.45 | DWSR | So, it's either 50%, 50%, 50%, 50%, or 50%, 75%, 50%. |
| 21:31.58 | DWSR | eidolarr: It's adding diminishing returns to parry, certainly. |
| 21:32.46 | DWSR | Just found an awesome bug with shadowmeld. |
| 21:33.12 | DWSR | If you hit shadowmeld + Horn of Winter at the same time, your character model remains "stealthed", but you don't have the buff. |
| 21:34.07 | eidolarr | display bug? |
| 21:34.20 | DWSR | T'would appear so. |
| 21:41.53 | cbreak | my provider has a new offer |
| 21:42.05 | Fisker | troll me DWSR |
| 21:42.08 | cbreak | 50mbit downstream 5mbit upstream fiber |
| 21:42.16 | cbreak | (and 100mbit down, 7mbit up) |
| 21:43.10 | cbreak | if it just wasn't so expensive |
| 21:43.15 | Fisker | stop trolling me cbreak |
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| 21:54.40 | foxlit | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31154 << The helpfulness! I'm... melting? |
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| 21:58.01 | kd3 | geez... has it really been 10 years since the dotcom crash? |
| 21:58.10 | DWSR | There was a dotcom crash? |
| 21:58.45 | Arrowmaster | yeah when the sock puppet had to start living on the street as a hobos sock |
| 22:00.06 | NeoTron | cbreak: and that's just wrong. 100/7 and 50/5? eek. I have 25/15 atm |
| 22:00.12 | Lunessa | kd3: Yeah. It has been. Thanks for reminding me of two things, a) I'm old. b) no longer rich. |
| 22:00.16 | Shirik | I have 93/38 |
| 22:00.29 | cbreak | NeoTron: I have 25/2.5 |
| 22:00.30 | Shirik | what are we talking about? |
| 22:00.42 | DWSR | connection speeds. |
| 22:00.43 | Arrowmaster | you guys fucking suck |
| 22:00.44 | NeoTron | cbreak: cable internet? |
| 22:00.47 | cbreak | but currently over TV Cable, so the technology is asymetric to begin with |
| 22:00.49 | Arrowmaster | i have 7/0.5 |
| 22:00.52 | NeoTron | Arrowmaster: this is not news |
| 22:01.34 | NeoTron | ah. I figured you meant suck as in bad compared to 100/100 type connections you might be able to snag in other countries :P |
| 22:01.34 | Shirik | I have 25/2 (20/1 guaranteed) |
| 22:02.07 | kd3 | looks at his 1.5/128 and cries |
| 22:02.09 | NeoTron | are you really sure cable, as a technology, is limited? I think it's more like the provider wanting to limit it by choice |
| 22:02.39 | Shirik | I doubt they're limiting it too much by choice, they're going to have serious problems with losing business to fiber soon |
| 22:02.45 | Shirik | that's why speeds have spiked recently imo |
| 22:02.45 | NeoTron | it's not exactly uncommon to artificially limit speeds |
| 22:03.10 | cbreak | upstream is limited |
| 22:03.12 | NeoTron | Shirik: could be that their network in general can't handle it |
| 22:03.22 | cbreak | since the frequency range of downstream is much bigger than that for upstream |
| 22:03.24 | kd3 | looks at AT&T in nyc |
| 22:03.37 | cbreak | I am considering switching to fiber though |
| 22:03.58 | cbreak | from 75 to 85 CHFr goes from 25/2.5 to 50/5 |
| 22:04.06 | durcyn | shit, that reminds me, sxsw starts soon, my iphone's going to stop working while all those tourist bastards invade my town |
| 22:04.12 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 22:04.21 | NeoTron | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOCSIS disagrees |
| 22:04.25 | kd3 | ya fisker? |
| 22:04.27 | Fisker | Why do you have a 128Mbit connection? |
| 22:04.35 | kd3 | I wish I did |
| 22:04.39 | NeoTron | DOCSIS 2.0 which is the most common has a uplink limit of 30 Mbps |
| 22:04.44 | Fisker | oh it's 1.5/128kbit? |
| 22:04.51 | NeoTron | and downstream opf 42 |
| 22:04.51 | kd3 | yar |
| 22:04.57 | Fisker | that sucks |
| 22:05.31 | NeoTron | so clearly upstream limits of 1-2 Mbps is greatly artificially limited |
| 22:05.46 | Shirik | kd3 |
| 22:05.52 | Shirik | your ISP has a horrible rate |
| 22:05.53 | kd3 | ya? |
| 22:05.53 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 22:05.56 | kd3 | no shit |
| 22:05.57 | Shirik | you disconnect every 5 minutes |
| 22:05.58 | Fisker | your mother is horrible |
| 22:06.00 | Fisker | in the face |
| 22:06.03 | Shirik | Why the hell do you still have them? |
| 22:06.04 | kd3 | that's what I get for living in the boondocks |
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| 22:06.18 | kd3 | it'd cost me a few grand to run a trench from the street to my house to get cable installed |
| 22:06.21 | NeoTron | Shirik: likely the reason people use comcastic internet - no options available |
| 22:06.26 | kd3 | can't exactly play wow over satellite |
| 22:06.38 | NeoTron | Internet is for the most part a monopoly or at best duopoly |
| 22:06.38 | Shirik | I played wow over microwave |
| 22:06.42 | Shirik | it was interesting |
| 22:06.47 | NeoTron | where one usually is better (cable) than the other (dsl) |
| 22:07.02 | Fisker | didn't the instruction manual tell you not to put WoW in a microwave? |
| 22:07.08 | Shirik | no |
| 22:07.20 | Kraps | "submitting non-specific system information" |
| 22:07.23 | Kraps | hmm |
| 22:07.29 | Fisker | old Kraps |
| 22:07.33 | NeoTron | Interestingly enough, even DOCSIS 1.0 and 1.1 has an upstream limit of 10 Mbps |
| 22:07.37 | Kraps | never seen it |
| 22:07.40 | Fisker | don't even think about it Kraps |
| 22:07.43 | Fisker | i warned you |
| 22:07.59 | Kraps | not even remotely possible |
| 22:08.20 | Arrowmaster | kd3: my uncle is in that kinda situation, he lives outside of boston but a rather long distance back from the road so he had like 5+ phone lines burried last time a trench was dug years ago |
| 22:08.32 | cog|work | nick cog|away |
| 22:09.00 | kd3 | assuming I win the lottery when I do dig the trench it's going to have a few miles of dark cable installed, just in case |
| 22:09.08 | kd3 | >.> |
| 22:09.10 | Shirik | Cide! |
| 22:09.12 | Shirik | Come back to me! |
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| 22:22.14 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5489428/battlestar-galactica-gets-its-own-massively-multiplayer-game |
| 22:22.40 | Arrowmaster | do i get to play as a cylon? |
| 22:23.09 | Fisker | Do i get to play as a pylon? |
| 22:23.31 | Kraps | "Yes, players will be able to choose to fight as a human or Cylon, and I am assuming one will have a much more complex character creation process than the other." |
| 22:23.51 | Thrae | http://sharikou.blogspot.com/ <-- Hmmm, according to this blog, Intel has copied everything AMD has done since the 386. This is the most scathing anti-Intel blog I've ever seen. |
| 22:24.22 | Fisker | Charlie v2? |
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| 22:26.55 | DWSR | LOL |
| 22:27.01 | DWSR | Just tanked 2 heroics without a presence. |
| 22:28.46 | Shirik | so |
| 22:28.52 | Shirik | why does everyone say pi is an irrational number? |
| 22:29.04 | Kraps | DWSR: i disnt know you could remove them all |
| 22:29.18 | Shirik | According to wikipedia, "In mathematics, an irrational number is any real number that is not a rational numberâthat is, it is a number which cannot be expressed as a fraction m/n, where m and n are integers, with n non-zero. " |
| 22:29.22 | DWSR | Kraps: You can't. |
| 22:29.30 | DWSR | Kraps: They all get removed when you swap specs. |
| 22:29.35 | Shirik | By that definition, irrational numbers do not exist imo |
| 22:30.29 | DWSR | Shirik: How do you jump to that conclusion? |
| 22:30.44 | Shirik | Fairly simple |
| 22:31.05 | Shirik | All we need is a transformation. We need to convince society that base 10 isn't the be-all-end-all numbering system |
| 22:31.17 | Shirik | If you transform into the base pi number system, it is simply the number 1 |
| 22:31.29 | Kraps | DWSR: why should that happen? |
| 22:31.47 | DWSR | Kraps: Improved Presence talents. |
| 22:31.53 | Shirik | In fact, I think such a base is a great idea. Instead of dealing with irrational numbers as radians, we could instead go 0, 1/2, 1, 3/2, 2 |
| 22:32.01 | Kraps | hmm |
| 22:32.38 | Lunessa | thinks Shirik is sniffing something. |
| 22:32.39 | DWSR | Shirik: The problem is that pi is not useful anywhere outside of science. |
| 22:32.56 | foxlit | Shirik: And by shifting the base, you're merely shifting which numbers you consider irrational |
| 22:33.03 | Shirik | exactly! |
| 22:33.19 | jnwhiteh | so a number isn't inherently "irrational" |
| 22:33.22 | jnwhiteh | that's all his point is =) |
| 22:33.46 | foxlit | Thing is, Pi is evil. |
| 22:33.49 | DWSR | jnwhiteh: Nothing is inherently anything. |
| 22:33.54 | jnwhiteh | Pie is amazing. |
| 22:33.55 | Shirik | I prefer cake |
| 22:33.58 | Kraps | [2] [Xhalathora]: Competent *Melee* Shammy *DPS* who know whole fight LFG [Malygos Must Die!] |
| 22:34.03 | Shirik | in before "the cake is a lie" |
| 22:34.10 | foxlit | is e irrational in base pi? |
| 22:34.15 | DWSR | no |
| 22:34.20 | DWSR | Since the whole system is pi |
| 22:34.23 | DWSR | wee |
| 22:34.35 | Shirik | well, e^(j*pi) is -1 |
| 22:34.35 | DWSR | Since base pi numbers can be expressed as <num> * pi in base-10. |
| 22:34.45 | Shirik | but -1 will be irrational |
| 22:34.52 | foxlit | (a) i (b) Moo? |
| 22:35.25 | foxlit | How about e * pi? |
| 22:35.26 | Shirik | hm |
| 22:35.29 | DWSR | jnwhiteh: Shirik's point is taking into account the fact that nothing is inherently anything until you give the definition some context. |
| 22:35.53 | Shirik | DWSR: Actually I think my point was more of "people have very limited definitions and refuse to think outside the box" |
| 22:35.54 | DWSR | jnwhiteh: So, his point is valid, sure, but nonsensical. |
| 22:36.04 | Shirik | I see a real practical use for base pi |
| 22:36.16 | DWSR | Shirik: The box is infinitely large, you just refuse to see the whole picture. |
| 22:36.23 | Shirik | ? |
| 22:36.32 | Lunessa | kicks it "old school" with some "Temple of the Dog" |
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| 22:39.03 | DWSR | Shirik: I can certainly see a use for base pi as well. |
| 22:39.07 | DWSR | Shirik: Not in everyday life. |
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| 22:39.43 | Shirik | well sure |
| 22:39.49 | Shirik | radians have little use in everyday life too |
| 22:40.41 | DWSR | uhuh |
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| 22:45.48 | krka | e is indeed irrational in base pi |
| 22:46.11 | krka | e^(i*pi) = -1 is just a consequence of how exp is defined for complex numbers |
| 22:47.24 | eidolarr | the best math is set theory |
| 22:47.34 | eidolarr | because of the way it makes you think abuot infinity |
| 22:48.43 | Kraps | how good is inscription? |
| 22:48.47 | krka | e^(x + i*y) = cos(x) + i*sin(y) (by definition) |
| 22:49.07 | krka | oops sorry, it should be e^x(....) for the right side |
| 22:49.11 | eidolarr | my professor told me that with the axiom of choice you can prove that you can divide a sphere up and reassemble the parts into two spheres identical to the initial one |
| 22:49.14 | krka | gah |
| 22:49.18 | krka | should be cos(y) too |
| 22:49.37 | foxlit | eidolarr: clearly that only applies if the original sphere was infinite to begin with. |
| 22:50.25 | eidolarr | foxlit: well then it's obvious, the proof works for finite sizes too though supposedly |
| 22:50.47 | foxlit | Someone somewhere is cheating with infinity. |
| 22:50.56 | eidolarr | hehe |
| 22:51.27 | DWSR | puts his hand up |
| 22:51.30 | DWSR | Can you blame me? |
| 22:51.31 | krka | eidolarr: does that mean that you can take apart a sphere of volume V and create two new spheres both with volume V? |
| 22:51.35 | krka | thus V = 2*V ? |
| 22:51.35 | DWSR | She's really really good in bed. |
| 22:51.39 | eidolarr | yes |
| 22:51.45 | krka | should only work for V = inf or V = 0 |
| 22:51.50 | eidolarr | you could also reassemble it into a larger sphere |
| 22:52.31 | eidolarr | well like i said, the proof purportedly works for finite sizes too, but it's a book and i haven't read it |
| 22:52.35 | krka | i bet it goes something like "divide it into infinitely many spheres with volume approaching zero, et.c. |
| 22:53.30 | eidolarr | it probably uses some dirty cardinality tricks |
| 22:54.12 | Adys | did you know |
| 22:54.16 | DWSR | no |
| 22:54.17 | DWSR | Now shut up. |
| 22:54.19 | Kalroth | the more you know |
| 22:54.27 | Adys | dwsr is a complete idiot |
| 22:54.29 | Adys | who did? |
| 22:54.38 | DWSR | touche |
| 22:55.24 | Adys | in other news, every single mob that has a heroic mode has a different npc id for each one of its heroic modes |
| 22:55.27 | Kalroth | well complete suggests that he is finished, that he cannot generate more idiot |
| 22:55.41 | Kalroth | which I am pretty sure is wrong |
| 22:55.45 | DWSR | Kalroth: It also suggests that I'm immutable. |
| 22:55.54 | Adys | like a string |
| 22:55.56 | Adys | del DWSR |
| 22:56.16 | Adys | the npc that's ingame morphs into the other npc once heroic mode is on |
| 22:56.17 | DWSR | Does this look like DOS to you? |
| 22:56.32 | NeoTron | Just throwing it out here, but anyone looking for a job as a software developer or sde in test or TPM type jobs? |
| 22:56.43 | Kalroth | DWSR: too bad you're not muteable! |
| 22:56.49 | Adys | oooooooohhhhhh |
| 22:56.51 | Adys | ~kalroth++ |
| 22:57.04 | Adys | but that npc keeps its current id, name and so on |
| 22:57.05 | DWSR | ~Kalroth-- |
| 22:57.07 | Kalroth | :( |
| 22:57.09 | Adys | ~kalroth++ |
| 22:57.13 | Fisker | Kalroth |
| 22:57.15 | Fisker | hello |
| 22:57.17 | Kalroth | geez |
| 22:57.19 | Fisker | ~kalroth-- |
| 22:57.21 | Adys | ~fisker-- |
| 22:57.26 | Fisker | thank you! |
| 22:57.30 | Adys | np, love you! |
| 22:57.43 | Adys | ~kalroth++ |
| 22:57.45 | eidolarr | NeoTron: yes |
| 22:57.54 | Adys | ~shirik-- |
| 22:57.55 | Kalroth | I keep hearing http://www.sadtrombone.com/ when Fisker speaks |
| 22:58.00 | Shirik | wtf was that for |
| 22:58.15 | Adys | Shirik: for every time you dissed python |
| 22:58.23 | Shirik | that deserves a ++++++++++++++++++++ |
| 22:58.30 | Adys | ~c++ |
| 22:58.50 | Fisker | oh snap |
| 22:59.49 | Fisker | i rage Kalroth |
| 23:00.30 | Kalroth | Adys: how do I make Q unban me |
| 23:00.47 | Adys | Kalroth: You... QQ! |
| 23:00.48 | Fisker | /msg Q unbanme #mmo-champion |
| 23:01.43 | Fisker | is there a chrome plugin that gives the ascii middlefinger to a custom defined list of javascripts? |
| 23:02.31 | foxlit | ~karma kalroth |
| 23:02.32 | purl | kalroth has karma of 3 |
| 23:02.43 | Kalroth | \o/ |
| 23:02.55 | Adys | ~karma foxlit |
| 23:02.55 | purl | foxlit has karma of 8 |
| 23:03.00 | Adys | ~foxlit-- |
| 23:03.03 | foxlit | ~karma foo |
| 23:03.03 | purl | foo has karma of -15 |
| 23:03.05 | foxlit | ~foo-- |
| 23:03.15 | Adys | foxlit: you're doing it wrong |
| 23:03.20 | foxlit | ~karma foo |
| 23:03.20 | purl | foo has karma of -16 |
| 23:03.20 | Adys | ~foo-- |
| 23:03.30 | Adys | ~karma foo |
| 23:03.31 | purl | foo has karma of -18 |
| 23:03.31 | Fisker | ~karma Fisker |
| 23:03.31 | purl | fisker has karma of 7 |
| 23:03.34 | Fisker | :( |
| 23:03.37 | Shirik | I'm going to hurt you guys |
| 23:03.42 | Adys | ~shirik-- |
| 23:03.46 | *** kick/#wowuidev [Adys!~mpdelbuon@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik] by Shirik (bye) |
| 23:03.47 | Fisker | then try and hurt me Shirik |
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| 23:03.56 | Adys | that didnt hurt! |
| 23:03.57 | Fisker | ~shirik-- |
| 23:04.00 | *** kick/#wowuidev [Adys!~outlaw@c-98-207-200-159.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] by Shadowed (bye) |
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| 23:04.06 | Adys | ~shadowed-- |
| 23:04.07 | Fisker | ~Shadowed-- |
| 23:04.10 | Fisker | hivemind |
| 23:04.20 | Adys | Fisker: purl is case insensitive, so it would seem. |
| 23:04.22 | Kalroth | man, who gave Shadowed ops? |
| 23:04.23 | Adys | er |
| 23:04.24 | Adys | case sensitive. |
| 23:04.30 | Adys | Kalroth: that would be me |
| 23:04.30 | Shadowed | dunno |
| 23:04.32 | Fisker | baw |
| 23:04.35 | Fisker | ~shadowed-- |
| 23:04.36 | Shadowed | Cairenn|afk must like me |
| 23:04.41 | Shirik | actually I did it |
| 23:04.43 | Fisker | i like you Shadowed |
| 23:04.47 | Shadowed | Shirik: Should make EDI auto ban people who use the karma too much |
| 23:04.57 | Adys | hm |
| 23:05.01 | Adys | ~karma shadowed |
| 23:05.01 | purl | shadowed has neutral karma |
| 23:05.11 | Adys | ~karma shadowed |
| 23:05.11 | purl | shadowed has karma of -1 |
| 23:05.11 | DWSR | ROFL |
| 23:05.13 | Adys | \o/ |
| 23:05.22 | DWSR | Just picked up a piece of Sanctified tanking gear on my fucking 4 day old 80. |
| 23:05.26 | DWSR | VoA, you are so wonderful. |
| 23:05.28 | Kalroth | Shadowed: Should make EG show a GearScore(tm) on the main window! |
| 23:05.39 | Shadowed | http://elitistarmory.com/faq this is why I have faqs |
| 23:05.46 | Adys | I think EDI should ban people with a gearscore < 4000 |
| 23:06.00 | DWSR | Adys: My gearscore's over 6000 on my main |
| 23:06.03 | Kalroth | whats a faq, is there a faq about faqs? |
| 23:06.08 | Fisker | i think it should be based on average item level instead |
| 23:06.14 | Fisker | faq you Kalroth |
| 23:06.57 | Kalroth | hey Adys, have you seen the youtube videos with Fisker? |
| 23:06.59 | Adys | Shadowed: haha you got assbitten |
| 23:07.08 | Adys | Shadowed: your <a> are fucking up on the faq |
| 23:07.10 | Adys | way to go. |
| 23:07.15 | Adys | Kalroth: yes |
| 23:07.21 | Kalroth | Adys: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p24VRDU4OHI - Fisker is the one on the right sdide |
| 23:07.26 | Shadowed | those should have been removed |
| 23:07.28 | Shadowed | too lazy |
| 23:07.46 | Adys | Kalroth: seen it actually |
| 23:07.50 | Kalroth | o |
| 23:08.34 | Kalroth | Adys: did you see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVtqoPZW1VA then?! |
| 23:10.21 | Fisker | why don't you try and stop me then Kalroth ? |
| 23:10.33 | Kalroth | Fisker: its not legal |
| 23:11.49 | foxlit | Shadowed: weak, there's no way to switch which dual spec it should consider. |
| 23:11.56 | Fisker | YOU |
| 23:12.17 | Shadowed | It already stores data per active talents, I just don't expose it yet |
| 23:12.38 | Shadowed | mostly cause I'm still tweaking all of the miners so I have data for both specs |
| 23:13.42 | Fisker | you can't stop me either |
| 23:15.31 | Adys | Kalroth: Maybe I did |
| 23:15.34 | Adys | maybe I didn't |
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| 23:18.50 | foxlit | "you make me always somewhere" << well done, google translate. well done. |
| 23:19.00 | Adys | what did you translate? |
| 23:19.10 | Fisker | sounds alright to me! |
| 23:19.13 | foxlit | "du triffst mich immer irgendwo" |
| 23:20.12 | Fisker | are you translating porn or something? |
| 23:20.29 | Shirik | du hast meich |
| 23:20.41 | foxlit | Why would porn need translating? |
| 23:20.46 | foxlit | Especially from german? |
| 23:21.34 | DWSR | because german is not a romance language? |
| 23:21.59 | Fisker | german porn = instant boner kill |
| 23:22.05 | Fisker | or so ive heard |
| 23:23.37 | Cruciformer | hey Shirik ... u know just about evyerthing .. u know much about ldap? |
| 23:23.45 | Shirik | lmao |
| 23:23.46 | Shirik | wtf |
| 23:23.48 | DWSR | ROFL |
| 23:23.52 | DWSR | ~fail Cruciformer |
| 23:23.53 | purl | You suck at everything in life, Cruciformer. I hate you because you fail. |
| 23:23.54 | DWSR | ~failrik |
| 23:23.55 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 23:24.04 | DWSR | Just as a matter of principle. |
| 23:24.11 | Shirik | actually no, that's something I've been trying to learn, but I haven't really investigated it yet |
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| 23:24.12 | Cruciformer | wot I say? |
| 23:24.24 | DWSR | <Cruciformer>hey Shirik ... u know just about evyerthing <-- This |
| 23:24.32 | Cruciformer | well am I wrong? :) |
| 23:24.35 | DWSR | Yes. |
| 23:24.38 | DWSR | So horribly terribly wrong. |
| 23:24.39 | Cruciformer | oh. |
| 23:24.51 | Cruciformer | u r shattering my illusions now. |
| 23:24.59 | DWSR | You know the Texas Chainsaw Massacre? |
| 23:25.03 | DWSR | the real one, not the movie. |
| 23:25.16 | DWSR | It's a billion times more wrong than that. |
| 23:25.20 | Cruciformer | I had tea with him yesterday. And crumpets. |
| 23:25.50 | Thrae | Hmm, am I insane asking for a small buff to Druid AoE Tanking, maybe reducing Challenging Roar (AoE Taunt) by 5 Rage through Talents and/or Major Glyph? Or even 1.0 seconds of cooldown? |
| 23:25.59 | DWSR | Thrae: Yes. |
| 23:26.05 | foxlit | While we're in the illusion shattering business: "you," in addition to u, also cotains "yo" |
| 23:26.09 | Fisker | Thrae |
| 23:26.11 | Fisker | 1-1 = 0 |
| 23:26.22 | frontendloader | drood tanking is pretty boring right now |
| 23:26.31 | Lopeppeppy | I need someone to watch scary movies with me. |
| 23:26.48 | Thrae | frontendloader: Yeah, that's why I said a more "clever" solution would be to add a reactionary ability like other melee classes |
| 23:27.27 | Shirik | finally a rap song that doesn't suck and is all about drugs and prostitutes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehu3wy4WkHs |
| 23:27.31 | Shirik | props to him |
| 23:27.33 | DWSR | Thrae: druid tanking is fine. |
| 23:27.39 | DWSR | All tanking is boring. |
| 23:28.02 | Thrae | DWSR: So Druid Tanking is fine, and tanking is suppose to be boring. |
| 23:28.10 | DWSR | More or less, yep. |
| 23:28.16 | cog|work | nick cogwheel |
| 23:28.17 | foxlit | Is there any role that isn't boring? |
| 23:28.26 | DWSR | ~epic fail cogwheel |
| 23:28.27 | purl | cogwheel, you have failed in such a spectacular way that one thousand years from now people will tell their children stories about a failure so great that it eclipsed every success from that period of time. And you cogwheel, you are that epic failure. |
| 23:28.37 | Thrae | Why do people play games they find boring? |
| 23:28.40 | cog|work | shrug |
| 23:28.47 | DWSR | waiting for cata. |
| 23:28.51 | DWSR | Also, PvP\ |
| 23:29.05 | DWSR | And watching scrubs whine when I steal their 264 sanctified tanking gear with a gear score that won't let me DPS H HoR. |
| 23:29.12 | foxlit | also, can only suffer through so many TvP games in a day. |
| 23:29.22 | Thrae | WoW PvP is boring. |
| 23:29.41 | DWSR | 264 sanctified on an 80 that can't even tank the instance that it drops from. |
| 23:29.48 | DWSR | TEARS YOU ARE SO DELICIOUS |
| 23:29.55 | Shirik | but I know |
| 23:29.56 | Shirik | one thing |
| 23:29.58 | Shirik | that I love you |
| 23:30.00 | *** join/#wowuidev Lunessa (~Lunessa@WoWUIDev/Lunessa) |
| 23:30.04 | DWSR | Shirik |
| 23:30.08 | DWSR | I just want you to know. |
| 23:30.14 | DWSR | That I will never give you up, or let you down. |
| 23:30.18 | DWSR | Or turn around and hurt you |
| 23:30.37 | Cruciformer | wow #ldap is deader than Julia Roberts' carreer |
| 23:30.48 | DWSR | Cruciformer: Try ##ldap |
| 23:30.59 | DWSR | Nope. |
| 23:31.42 | Thunder_Child | DWSR: if you are going to rickroll, at least use the correct lyrics |
| 23:32.07 | DWSR | Thunder_Child: IF you're going to shut, at least do it the hell up. |
| 23:32.07 | cogwheel | Lopeppeppy: swing on by whenever you want... mrs cog and i have tons of horrors/thrillers |
| 23:33.03 | Thunder_Child | speaking of that DWSR, would you lime me to point out how many time you have said (in effect) "I am awesome, everyone else sucks" in the last few days? |
| 23:33.04 | cogwheel | Lunessa: your brother <3s ugt |
| 23:33.06 | Thunder_Child | like* |
| 23:33.30 | DWSR | Thunder_Child: Only if you teach me how to lime you |
| 23:33.38 | Shirik | rick astley had horrible grammar anyway |
| 23:33.42 | Lunessa | cogwheel: Yes, for him "whenever I wake up" is |
| 23:33.44 | Shirik | his lyrics should not be recited corretly |
| 23:33.47 | Lunessa | "morning" |
| 23:34.03 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah cog, if it weren't such a drive I'd totally come over for dessert and a movie. :) |
| 23:34.27 | Thunder_Child | DWSR: very slowly |
| 23:34.52 | cogwheel | she's making cereal bars |
| 23:34.57 | Cruciformer | pink floyd has the best lyrics ever |
| 23:35.02 | Thunder_Child | isnt it 3000 miles to drive to cogs? |
| 23:35.21 | Cruciformer | "And through the fisheyed lens of tear-stained eyes I can barely define the shape of this moment in time" - pure genius |
| 23:35.32 | cogwheel | Thunder_Child: idd |
| 23:35.48 | Thunder_Child | cogwheel: translation? |
| 23:35.56 | cogwheel | InDeeD |
| 23:36.09 | Thunder_Child | ah, ty |
| 23:36.48 | Thunder_Child | hey, why arent i invited over for dessert and a movie? |
| 23:37.11 | cogwheel | heh... you're actually a reasonableish drive from here, huh >< |
| 23:37.25 | Thunder_Child | depends on what resonable is, it's ~ 7 hours i think |
| 23:37.35 | Thunder_Child | one way |
| 23:37.53 | Thunder_Child | doesnt it take you 8 ish hours to get to blizzcon? |
| 23:37.54 | kaiden | *sniff* i wish SexyCooldown let me exclude specific items / spells from the bar |
| 23:37.55 | Lunessa | That's not entirely reasonable - for dinner. |
| 23:38.09 | Lunessa | kaiden: It has a blacklist feature |
| 23:38.25 | kaiden | really? where? i dont see it in the options *puts on glasses* |
| 23:38.46 | DWSR | kaiden: It does. |
| 23:39.09 | kaiden | oh i dont doubt you are telling hte truth i just dont see it |
| 23:39.22 | Lopeppeppy | It's a bit far for me to casually visit, I admit. |
| 23:39.25 | kaiden | i see the ability for you to turn off global items, etc, but not specific one |
| 23:39.34 | Lopeppeppy | My nearest Lounge neighbor whom I've met is alestane. |
| 23:39.45 | Lunessa | You can right-click something on the bar and make it go away for ever! |
| 23:39.56 | kaiden | Lunessa, no shit, awesome! |
| 23:39.59 | kaiden | thank you! :) |
| 23:40.30 | kaiden | hrm, not working :( no popups, no nothin on right click of an item on the bar |
| 23:40.48 | kaiden | i'll go read the website for it |
| 23:41.00 | cogwheel | Thunder_Child: oh i probably have you confused with someone else then. |
| 23:41.18 | cogwheel | you are pretty unremarkable |
| 23:41.23 | cogwheel | <.< |
| 23:41.28 | Thunder_Child | umm....ouch |
| 23:41.55 | Shirik | ey papa |
| 23:42.59 | kaiden | Lunessa, ah, apparently you have to alt+left click in the direct center of the icon to get it to blacklist |
| 23:42.59 | cogwheel | offers Thunder_Child some aloe for that burn |
| 23:43.36 | Lunessa | kaiden: Something like that. I don't use it much myself right now. Sorry I told you "right click" |
| 23:44.05 | kaiden | oh dont be sorry :) i'm just glad you pointed me in the direction |
| 23:44.15 | kaiden | that's been annoying me for some time now but i haven't cared enough to look into it hehe |
| 23:44.27 | Thunder_Child | was hurt in a way that no aloe can ever heal. |
| 23:45.11 | kaiden | as in butt hurt? |
| 23:45.24 | kaiden | i would suggest against aloe on the butt |
| 23:45.28 | kaiden | it can end up.. bad |
| 23:45.34 | kaiden | just ask ck! |
| 23:45.40 | Lopeppeppy | Dude, speak not to the Peppy of diaper rashes! |
| 23:46.13 | cogwheel | mmm... and the burn spreads... |
| 23:47.14 | Shirik | peppy of diaper rashes? |
| 23:48.03 | Lopeppeppy | Like the Great and Powerful Oz. |
| 23:49.50 | Shirik | I'm missing the connection between oz and diaper rashes |
| 23:50.33 | Lunessa | ... Do not look behind the curtain Shirik - DO NOT LOOK |
| 23:58.09 | Lopeppeppy | very not look |
| 23:58.30 | Thrae | Is there a way to opt-out of sending Blizzard "non-personal system information", whatever that is? |
| 23:59.54 | ScytheBlade1 | System specs. And no. |
