| 00:02.19 | Milyardo | *dated |
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| 00:03.29 | Wobin | DWSR, also... is it accurate in any way? |
| 00:03.38 | Wobin | None of the Aussie medallists are listed? |
| 00:04.29 | Wobin | oh I see |
| 00:04.42 | Wobin | it scrolls =P |
| 00:05.05 | Wobin | It should sort by medal winners |
| 00:07.41 | cbreak | SC2 needs a mac version. |
| 00:08.55 | Gnarfoz | SC2 needs a "in my account" version. |
| 00:10.13 | Gnarfoz | wtf is "JavaFX"? Oo |
| 00:10.20 | foxlit | "cbreak: SC2 needs a mac version." << SC2 on 27'' iMac. |
| 00:10.20 | haste | flash with java |
| 00:10.23 | foxlit | That'd be great. |
| 00:10.31 | Arrowmaster | what the fuck |
| 00:10.38 | cbreak | I read in some review that the resolution is capped |
| 00:10.44 | cbreak | for "competitive" purposes... |
| 00:11.03 | Arrowmaster | i just checked my email which is using google apps and noticed that my spam folder is empty, and ive never cleared it |
| 00:11.15 | Arrowmaster | how the fuck have i not gotten any spam in 30 days |
| 00:11.32 | cbreak | ... it's in your inbox :D |
| 00:11.38 | Arrowmaster | no its not |
| 00:13.25 | foxlit | Hm. Someone is actually spamming hellions. No wonder I won. |
| 00:14.54 | Fisker | 1 void ray & a few cannons in base = gg? |
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| 00:16.54 | foxlit | Everyone and their dog is beating me on the actions per minute scoreboard :( |
| 00:17.14 | cbreak | meaningfullactions? |
| 00:17.26 | zenzelezz | clearly you need to team up with a dog too |
| 00:17.56 | Gnarfoz | someone needs to set a redirect on this channel, to #sc2 ;p |
| 00:18.11 | Gnarfoz | or give me an invite ;o |
| 00:18.19 | foxlit | #sc2: "Star Control 2: The Ur-Quan Masters, Remastered" |
| 00:18.33 | foxlit | Where the heck did you send me? |
| 00:18.45 | Gnarfoz | notes success |
| 00:18.55 | Gnarfoz | (I have no idea.) |
| 00:19.26 | foxlit | cbreak: that's difficult to measure, I suppose. |
| 00:19.37 | foxlit | I notice that people tend to spam movement clicks a lot. |
| 00:20.06 | Gnarfoz | apm is just raw clicks/minute, afaik |
| 00:20.26 | cbreak | I can top most professional players' apm I bet |
| 00:20.35 | cbreak | just by spamming meaningless stuff until I lose fast |
| 00:20.49 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 00:21.04 | Gnarfoz | I guess what actually would make sense is the meaningful apm vs. raw apm metric :p |
| 00:26.54 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1 hax |
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| 00:46.03 | Wobin | ooh |
| 00:46.15 | Wobin | iiinteresting Valithria tip: http://outdps.com/2010/02/25/valithria-dreamwalker-tip |
| 00:47.38 | Cide | except it didn't work as originally advertised |
| 00:47.52 | Wobin | what about with the pally glyph, though? |
| 00:48.14 | Cide | shrug |
| 00:49.00 | Wobin | that's only... 14% of the heal, across 5 targets... 70% transferred to Vali? |
| 00:50.09 | Wobin | Would be interesting to see if it actually pans out |
| 00:51.27 | Wobin | hehe http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/17/2010/02/340x_macgyver_multitool.jpg |
| 00:52.55 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 00:53.27 | alestane | "We can smell you smoking weed from downstairs and your little brother is asking why the upstairs smells like gasoline. Please smoke in the basement. XOXO dad." ...um. |
| 00:53.47 | Cairenn | lol |
| 00:54.15 | Cairenn | yeah - smoke in the basement, so the smoke rises and we all get a contact high |
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| 00:55.54 | Fisker | moar like MacFisker multitool |
| 00:55.56 | Wobin | maybe the basement has better vent |
| 00:55.59 | Fisker | <inserts large trout> |
| 00:56.06 | Fisker | slaps Wobin around a bit with a large trout |
| 00:56.24 | Wobin | No the MacFisker would go "You look like you're trying to unlock that padlock. Would you like to try A FISH INSTEAD?" |
| 00:57.34 | alestane | Wobin: Did you just combine the MacGyver multitool with the MS Office help agent? |
| 00:57.52 | Fisker | btw Wobin |
| 00:57.53 | Wobin | alestane, What's more fitting for a Fisker-alike? =P |
| 00:58.03 | Fisker | i'm recreating the macgyver intro in my head |
| 00:58.09 | Fisker | but instead i run around slapping people with trouts |
| 00:58.11 | Wobin | And you're humming the music, right? |
| 00:58.31 | Cairenn | I think it'd be more appropriate to stick the fish in your ear, but /shrug |
| 00:59.36 | Fisker | yes Wobin :3 |
| 01:00.11 | Wobin | Cairenn, that's too many crossovers for one idea =P |
| 01:00.52 | Cairenn | hey, if you want too many crossovers, you need to have the theme music played with coconuts :p |
| 01:01.27 | Fisker | or troutslaps |
| 01:01.37 | Wobin | with Neil Patrick Harris in a labcoat as Macguyver |
| 01:01.43 | Cairenn | lol |
| 01:01.59 | Cairenn | no, MacGuyver always has to be RDA |
| 01:02.01 | Cairenn | purrs |
| 01:02.25 | Gnarfoz | just because a guy is no reason to sneak a "u" in his name :< |
| 01:02.40 | Gnarfoz | s/a guy/he's a guy/ |
| 01:03.07 | Gnarfoz | or something, I'm enjoying my white russians far too much tonight. ;o |
| 01:03.10 | cbreak | it's a shame stargate butchered the image of the pacifist that he seemed to be :/ |
| 01:03.13 | Cairenn | lol |
| 01:03.33 | nevcairiel | pacifists dont build bombs out of gum! |
| 01:03.54 | cbreak | friendly bomb |
| 01:03.59 | cbreak | (with Mint flavour!) |
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| 01:05.14 | Gnarfoz | it just stuns, no casualties |
| 01:06.34 | cbreak | the mint in the gum desinfects the wounds of the shrapnells |
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| 01:13.08 | Wobin | http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/s/Super+Mario/2h9DC5 |
| 01:13.32 | Wobin | acapella at it's best |
| 01:16.09 | Wobin | I'm -really- impressed =P |
| 01:18.11 | Shirik | wow. |
| 01:18.15 | Shirik | That's crazy |
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| 01:20.23 | zenzelezz | "Q. What have you learned from the inclusion of Wintergrasp in Wrath of the Lich King?" "A. We learned a lot from Wintergrasp. I think our biggest takeaway is that we do not want to create such a technical strain on the servers like that ever again. [...]" heh |
| 01:20.26 | Wobin | the underwater noises are awesome |
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| 01:21.07 | Shirik | rofl @the "shining star" interlude |
| 01:21.14 | Shirik | took me a second to get it |
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| 01:35.08 | Wobin | I'ma grabbing their albums |
| 01:35.25 | Wobin | http://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/byu-vocal-point/id4165859 |
| 01:38.29 | Wobin | omg, the THX/20th Century Fox Fanfare is fantastic |
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| 01:43.12 | Qzot_ | Will Auctioneer and QuickAuction2 co-exist at peace? |
| 01:43.20 | Shadowed | Probably not |
| 01:43.26 | Shadowed | they don't like each other |
| 01:45.35 | Qzot_ | Shadowed: Just making the joke, or are their known incompatabilities? (My _guess_, as well, is that they would be incompatible.) |
| 01:45.45 | Qzot_ | *there. Gah. |
| 01:46.06 | Shadowed | I don't run Auctioneer myself, but I've seen a lot of reports of issues in the historical module of Auctioneer |
| 01:46.11 | Shadowed | due to QAs scan speed |
| 01:46.27 | Shadowed | I believe the solution was to just do normal non-QA scans periodically, but don't quote me on that |
| 01:47.35 | Qzot_ | Can QA use the single-shot scan? |
| 01:47.44 | Shadowed | No I never saw much point in adding it |
| 01:47.49 | Shadowed | QA scans are already very fast |
| 01:48.01 | Qzot_ | Tell me more. |
| 01:48.09 | Shadowed | Not much more to tell :p |
| 01:48.16 | Qzot_ | Will the client sent out multiple requests simultaneously? |
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| 01:48.29 | Shadowed | no, it's just smart with when to wait for data and when to immediately request more |
| 01:48.48 | Shadowed | For posting, you're limited by how fast you can split/post items, so doing a one-shot scan is kind of useless |
| 01:48.57 | Qzot_ | How fast for a low-pop server? Say ... 12k auctions. |
| 01:49.22 | Shadowed | I haven't chcked it lately, but last I looked it was around 0.5s per scan? |
| 01:49.31 | Shadowed | can be less, it depends on the market |
| 01:49.42 | Qzot_ | The thing I really like about the getall scan is that I don't have to worry whether someone got the retry and/or stitching code correct. |
| 01:50.01 | Qzot_ | lua> 5 |
| 01:50.01 | lua_bot | Qzot_: 5 |
| 01:50.14 | Shadowed | lua> print((12000 / 50) * 0.05) |
| 01:50.14 | lua_bot | Shadowed: 12 |
| 01:50.16 | Qzot_ | lua>That's 120 seconds. |
| 01:50.17 | lua_bot | Qzot_: luabot:1: unfinished string near '<eof>' |
| 01:50.17 | Shadowed | lua> print((12000 / 50) * 0.5) |
| 01:50.18 | lua_bot | Shadowed: 120 |
| 01:50.36 | Shadowed | Stitching code? |
| 01:51.01 | Shadowed | Retry code is all good. AHers tend to be very complain-y when you break their AH mods :P |
| 01:51.14 | Qzot_ | Rephrase: With getall, I know the server has provided me a single consistent view of the AH db at some point in time. |
| 01:51.18 | Shadowed | It used to have some issues with Auctioneer/Auctionator, but I fixed those a while |
| 01:51.20 | Shadowed | ah |
| 01:51.34 | Shadowed | That only matters for canceling, for posting it posts while you scan |
| 01:52.06 | Qzot_ | No. It matters for not seeing auctions. You can miss an item up for sale. |
| 01:52.18 | Shadowed | err? |
| 01:52.33 | Qzot_ | Hmm. Do I believe that...? |
| 01:52.45 | Shadowed | I'm not really sure what you're trying to say :p |
| 01:52.57 | Shadowed | You'll always miss items if you are unlucky enough, no matter what you do |
| 01:53.07 | zenzelezz | even getting it all in one go can mean auctions in the data set are gone when you read them |
| 01:53.11 | Qzot_ | Does QA scan forward or backward? |
| 01:53.26 | Shadowed | forward |
| 01:53.26 | Qzot_ | zenzelezz: Very true, but a different concern. |
| 01:53.53 | Shadowed | But the AH sorting is wonky anyway, you aren't exactly going to get the best data by going backwards |
| 01:54.05 | Qzot_ | So, let's say some AH has 12k items. That's 240 pages to scan. |
| 01:54.13 | Shadowed | Qzot_: I think you're getting confused |
| 01:54.18 | Shadowed | What are you trying to use QA with |
| 01:54.40 | Qzot_ | Maybe I'm assuming too much. |
| 01:54.45 | Shadowed | It's not like Auctioneer, it doesn't scan your entire AH then post |
| 01:55.02 | Qzot_ | Is it a nearly complete replacement for Auctioneer in terms of price scanning? |
| 01:55.11 | Shadowed | No they serve two different purposes |
| 01:55.23 | Qzot_ | Aha! Confusion assumes a lack of ignorance I haven't reached yet. :D |
| 01:55.51 | Shadowed | Auctioneer is more for people who want historical data and want to play the market in a more long term fashion (Personally, I think that's not very helpful). |
| 01:56.08 | Shadowed | QA is for people who want to post against the market right now |
| 01:56.17 | Qzot_ | Hmm. Maybe I'm back to my original question. Can I use Auctioneer to track prices, and have QA loaded without the world imploding? |
| 01:56.54 | Qzot_ | I wanted to play with QA -- I'm at the playing-around stage -- but I don't really want to shut down Auc long-term. |
| 01:57.10 | Shadowed | You can use QA and Auctioneer, but you have to be careful with the Auctioneer database. As far as I know, you have to do manual Auctioneer scans to get the price data |
| 01:57.13 | Qzot_ | I think you may have been confused about my original question. |
| 01:57.26 | Shadowed | I answered your original question :P |
| 01:57.40 | Qzot_ | Manual auctioneer scans so that *QA* gets price data? |
| 01:57.56 | Shadowed | No, so Auctioneer gets price data |
| 01:59.19 | Qzot_ | Will QA fall over if I use Auc to do a getall scan? |
| 01:59.41 | Wobin | =( GetAll crashes my connection every time =( |
| 01:59.42 | Shadowed | No, QA is supposed to be inactive unless you triggered a scan with it |
| 01:59.57 | Qzot_ | Rats. |
| 02:00.28 | Qzot_ | Sounds like I want features of both. But I'm not sure I'm up for doing scans for each one. |
| 02:01.15 | Qzot_ | Okay. Time to just install it and play around a bit. Way too ignorant for this discussion. |
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| 02:03.25 | Qzot_ | Wobin: It crashes my client when I'm not on a dsl+ connection. |
| 02:03.42 | Wobin | Qzot_, I have the equivalent |
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| 02:03.50 | Wobin | it's called "Not Being In America" =P |
| 02:04.12 | zenzelezz | I've never heard of an NBIA connection |
| 02:04.32 | Wobin | aka "God Damn Australian Connection" |
| 02:04.52 | zenzelezz | still haven't heard of those technologies |
| 02:04.59 | Wobin | yeah, you wouldn't |
| 02:05.03 | Wobin | it's very backward and old |
| 02:05.18 | zenzelezz | so neither DSL or cable? |
| 02:05.29 | Wobin | oh we have ADSL+ and cable |
| 02:05.38 | Wobin | but it sucks compared to speeds non Australians get |
| 02:05.52 | Wobin | of course, internally it's pretty good |
| 02:06.12 | Wobin | but as soon as it gets to the cross oceanic bottleneck... |
| 02:07.39 | Qzot_ | Shadowed: Like the whitelist feature. Would love a button for "guildmates". |
| 02:08.00 | Qzot_ | s/button/checkbox/ |
| 02:08.04 | Shadowed | Probably not going to happen :p |
| 02:08.38 | Qzot_ | Philosophy or lack of cycles? |
| 02:08.51 | Shadowed | Philosophy and QA is mostly "as-is" right now |
| 02:09.12 | Shadowed | (Also I don't want to keep rechecking guild to get a list of players) |
| 02:10.52 | Gnarfoz | uhm Shadowed |
| 02:11.10 | Shadowed | ? |
| 02:11.12 | Qzot_ | Philosophy I don't argue with. Well, I do but I won't now. :P "As-is" sounds like lack of cycles. If you're doing regular scans (and dealing with the bounces, if they still exist) you should eventually see all seller names. |
| 02:11.15 | Gnarfoz | the last time I used QA & Auctioneer, it kept slowing down Auctioneer increasingly |
| 02:11.19 | Gnarfoz | until it was unusable |
| 02:11.26 | Shadowed | Gnarfoz: Yes, that's the DB issue |
| 02:11.30 | Gnarfoz | so if nothing changed since then, don't run Auc + QA :X |
| 02:11.56 | Shadowed | If you only scan with QA, the Auctioneer DB doesn't get cleared out so it gets slower and slower. That was my understanding of the issue at least |
| 02:12.28 | Gnarfoz | hmm. it was the Auctioneer scans that would start to take forever, QA's own performance was unaffected, IIRC |
| 02:12.28 | Shadowed | Qzot_: No, I just don't have motivation/time to work on QA, and if I do work on it I have other features planned :p |
| 02:12.41 | Qzot_ | Got it. |
| 02:12.52 | Shadowed | I haven't used Auctioneer for years, so it's entirely possible I'm wrong Gnarfoz |
| 02:12.57 | Gnarfoz | once I figured out that it was QA & Auc not playing nice together, I separated them into different ACP profiles and just switch back and forth ;\ |
| 02:13.00 | Shadowed | that's what I've seen in tickets/user reports |
| 02:13.07 | Gnarfoz | so I have no current data on how they get along, either |
| 02:18.44 | Qzot_ | Shadowed: Maybe I being dense, but how do you start it? |
| 02:18.54 | Qzot_ | That is, start a scan. |
| 02:18.54 | Shadowed | Posts tab, should be buttons on the top right |
| 02:19.16 | Qzot_ | Posts? That sounds scary, like it's going to sell stuff for me. |
| 02:19.32 | Shadowed | That's what QA does :po |
| 02:19.56 | Qzot_ | Yes, but it's not something *I* want QA to do for me until I can look over its shoulder a bit. |
| 02:20.03 | Shadowed | You can't test it |
| 02:20.10 | Qzot_ | s/do for me/do for me yet/ |
| 02:20.10 | Shadowed | short of hacking out the poster yourself |
| 02:20.23 | Shadowed | Although that would break the queue system |
| 02:21.21 | Qzot_ | <-- does QA only run searches on items you're selling? Now I think I'm getting your paradigm. |
| 02:21.32 | Shadowed | Correct, only something you sell |
| 02:21.43 | tlund | 03:18:51 You are no longer AFK. |
| 02:21.43 | tlund | 03:18:51 You are now AFK: Away from Keyboard |
| 02:21.43 | tlund | 03:19:38 You are no longer AFK. |
| 02:21.43 | tlund | 03:19:38 You are now AFK: Away from Keyboard |
| 02:21.44 | tlund | 03:20:28 You are no longer AFK. |
| 02:21.50 | tlund | what addon might be causing this? :) |
| 02:22.05 | tlund | i was away from the computer, not touching the keyboard/mouse |
| 02:22.17 | Wobin | g2g? |
| 02:22.17 | Qzot_ | You may need a better intro for existing Auctioneer users. Where they overlap, where they differ, and your different approach. |
| 02:22.55 | Wobin | tlund, any addon that makes you a relay for information |
| 02:23.01 | Shadowed | I don't really consider it a bad thing that QA isn't the most obvious to use |
| 02:23.42 | Shadowed | Less people just loading it up and killing markets without knowing what they are doing :P |
| 02:24.44 | frontendloader | Gnarfoz: you need to update auctioneer actually |
| 02:24.52 | Qzot_ | I'm not convinced that keeping people intentionally ignorant is the best approach to stupidity. |
| 02:25.01 | Shadowed | shrugs |
| 02:25.20 | tlund | Wobin: Aha! LFG-forwarder and Trade-Forwarder! :) |
| 02:25.20 | frontendloader | whats happening is auctioneer is behaving badly and ALWAYS hooks the AUCTION_ITEM_LIST_UPDATE event |
| 02:25.24 | tlund | Wobin: thanks! :) |
| 02:25.37 | frontendloader | which causes auctioneer to "listen in" on QA's scans |
| 02:26.11 | Qzot_ | LOL. "We recovered a lost item in teh twisting nether and noticed it was yours." 2 Frosties. |
| 02:26.13 | Shadowed | QAs not the simplest mod in general, it's a lot easier for people to use than it was before... but it's never going to be something everyone can work out easily |
| 02:26.21 | Shadowed | frontendloader: Oh did that bug get fixed? |
| 02:26.38 | frontendloader | thats not actually the bug |
| 02:26.50 | Shadowed | I'd say it's a bug, but did it get fixed? :P |
| 02:26.50 | Qzot_ | o noes! I have custom hacks to my Auc2. Bleah. |
| 02:26.55 | frontendloader | no |
| 02:27.07 | Shadowed | Trying to find a UI that everyone understands for SUF was a pain enough, QAs worst :< |
| 02:27.22 | frontendloader | the bug is that auctioneer's scandata table would just keep getting added to |
| 02:27.33 | Qzot_ | UIs are a pain in many ways. |
| 02:27.42 | frontendloader | so if you run two scans with QA, everything you saw goes into Auctioneer's DB twice |
| 02:27.51 | frontendloader | eventually you've got 100k entries |
| 02:27.57 | frontendloader | and you're slow as shit |
| 02:28.00 | Qzot_ | But I'm not even talking about UI. A paragraph for Auc users on the download page would go a long way. |
| 02:28.31 | frontendloader | in the latest preview of auctioneer though, it can now tell which auctions are already in the DB somehow |
| 02:28.39 | Qzot_ | If you want, I could write you a draft right now. |
| 02:28.39 | frontendloader | probably matches by price/sellername |
| 02:28.59 | frontendloader | and it won't create duplicate entries |
| 02:29.02 | Shadowed | Don't worry about it Qzot, thanks thought |
| 02:29.09 | Shadowed | frontendloader huh interesting, I'll keep that in mind next time someone asks |
| 02:29.43 | frontendloader | Its still best to just turn it off, since even though it is working properly it increases scan time by a noticeable amount |
| 02:32.19 | Wobin | =( |
| 02:32.30 | Wobin | the first time each day I open my mail on my AH mule |
| 02:32.33 | Wobin | it crashes WoW |
| 02:32.57 | Shadowed | What did you do to anger the WoW gods |
| 02:33.10 | Wobin | GetInboxText apparently |
| 02:33.23 | Shadowed | weird |
| 02:34.59 | Wobin | It's probably beancounter or something |
| 02:35.12 | Wobin | I just never remember to disable addons on first login =P |
| 02:35.15 | Wobin | to test |
| 03:01.25 | Gnarfoz | I had that for quite a while |
| 03:01.25 | Gnarfoz | it's like the client hasn't gotten the mail data, yet, or something |
| 03:01.33 | Gnarfoz | and it's not Beancounter, apparently, I suspected that, turned it off and still got that error |
| 03:01.41 | Gnarfoz | (but I haven't gotten it in a while now) |
| 03:02.44 | p3lim | Hm just found out that blizzard ui default automatically accepts quests at low level |
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| 03:03.10 | DWSR | Is it possible to list one addon in another addon's in .pkgmeta and then have it packaged on the top-level of the resulting package? |
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| 03:03.52 | Arrowmaster | yes its possible, but its not allowed |
| 03:04.46 | DWSR | Why not? |
| 03:05.16 | Arrowmaster | because each addon should only include itself and not any other individual addons |
| 03:05.30 | Arrowmaster | it also breaks most updaters |
| 03:05.47 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: Heh, can you give me manager status on Aloft please, btw? |
| 03:06.59 | Arrowmaster | id rather not since i havent done much on wowace in a while |
| 03:07.23 | DWSR | ckknight: ping (read up 2). |
| 03:07.48 | ckknight | do you have Roartindon's permission? |
| 03:08.48 | DWSR | ckknight: Do I need to dig this out from last night? |
| 03:08.58 | Arrowmaster | i gave him maintainer of it, since its been modified so much since the last version on wowace i would be for giving him manager over just maintainer but im not going to make that call |
| 03:09.12 | ckknight | DWSR: is that a no? |
| 03:09.23 | DWSR | ckknight: The project's abandoned. |
| 03:09.34 | Kraps | happy Purim yall |
| 03:09.36 | p3lim | Ok, fancy API: QuestGetAutoAccept() |
| 03:09.42 | p3lim | Anyone know what its used for? |
| 03:09.44 | Arrowmaster | ckknight: he doesnt explicitly but roartindon gave permission for others to take it over |
| 03:09.48 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 03:11.16 | ckknight | okay |
| 03:11.18 | ckknight | works for me |
| 03:11.24 | ckknight | especially since you've been so adamant, DWSR |
| 03:11.46 | DWSR | lol, sorry, I just don't want to have to go log diving for this, since the logs are so disjointed from bad connectivity. |
| 03:12.15 | DWSR | The abridged version reads something like "project was abandoned, opened for anyone to take, someone's maintaining it at WoWI, he and I want to move to WA, wtb manager plz" |
| 03:12.38 | DWSR | I have a 2 forum posts, 6 PMs, and an e-mail for you to read, if you really want. :) |
| 03:12.52 | Arrowmaster | btw what other addon were you wanting to include via .pkgmeta? |
| 03:13.51 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: Something not on yet, but it's essentially a plugin for Aloft. |
| 03:14.13 | DWSR | The author wants to add it to the base distribution of Aloft, but maintain it seperately, since lots of Aloft changes don't really concern the plugin |
| 03:14.50 | Gnarfoz | AloftCastBarWarningsThingy? |
| 03:14.58 | Arrowmaster | thats rather silly |
| 03:16.18 | Arrowmaster | but yeah if a separate project gets created for it, the only way to get the addon into the top level addons dir should be to install that separate project |
| 03:17.15 | DWSR | I'm just asking, I think it's a bit silly. |
| 03:17.47 | DWSR | There's no way to do pages on curse.com same as CF/WA, is there? |
| 03:18.03 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 03:19.04 | Gnarfoz | what do you mean? the pages get converted into tabs on the addon page, don't they? |
| 03:19.40 | Gnarfoz | hmm... or just the "main" page ;\ |
| 03:19.55 | Gnarfoz | curse.com page is shit anyway, it's a tragedy. |
| 03:21.02 | DWSR | ckknight: Mucho gracias, senior. |
| 03:21.11 | ckknight | ¿que? |
| 03:21.40 | Gnarfoz | also, someone at S2 games doesn't know the meaning of the word "also" |
| 03:21.49 | DWSR | lol |
| 03:21.58 | DWSR | ckknight: You, or whoever gave me manager. |
| 03:22.02 | Gnarfoz | Off Site HTTP Downloads: |
| 03:22.02 | Gnarfoz | The following external sites also provide downloads of Savage 2 |
| 03:22.07 | ckknight | yea, that was me, DWSR |
| 03:22.38 | Gnarfoz | well shit, these are the ONLY downloads, because either I'm fucking blind or you simply don't offer *your game* for download yourself! ;D |
| 03:23.24 | Gnarfoz | anyway, thanks AOL |
| 03:23.53 | Gnarfoz | (I love CDNs) |
| 03:26.23 | Kraps | picasa doesnt filter duplicates like it should ><\ |
| 03:28.54 | DWSR | http://wuu.vagabonds.info/menu.php <-- WoWMatrix 2.0! |
| 03:29.53 | DWSR | also, they're working around the leech protection |
| 03:29.54 | DWSR | ? |
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| 03:34.29 | kd3 | snags the source and starts looking |
| 03:35.18 | Shirik | grabs kd3's source |
| 03:35.34 | kd3 | http://sourceforge.net/projects/wuu/files/wuu/1.9.640/WUU-1.9.640-src.zip/download |
| 03:35.46 | DWSR | kd3: They have a page on WA's forums. |
| 03:35.50 | DWSR | err s/page/thread/ |
| 03:37.04 | Arrowmaster | its been around since the WAU days |
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| 03:58.46 | DWSR | Are all addons on WoWI released under the same license? |
| 03:59.05 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 04:00.19 | DWSR | Where can I find licensing information then? |
| 04:00.32 | Shadowed | Check the addon itself, if none is found then it's all rights reserved |
| 04:00.36 | Arrowmaster | where ever the author decides to put it |
| 04:01.07 | DWSR | thanks Shadowed |
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| 04:25.58 | DJJeff | the ammount of tickets @ |
| 04:26.00 | DJJeff | http://clientsupport.curse.com/search.aspx?browse=147 |
| 04:26.10 | DJJeff | is just outrageous |
| 04:26.19 | DJJeff | all about "cant connect" |
| 04:28.14 | DJJeff | it looks like the update servers have been down for 10 hours |
| 04:28.31 | DJJeff | did someone fall asleep at the switch? |
| 04:28.37 | DJJeff | or was there a hack attempt |
| 04:29.24 | DJJeff | all the people on that connection are too busy watching the vancouver 2010 games I bet |
| 04:29.38 | ScytheBlade1 | #curse or #curseforge |
| 04:29.38 | DWSR | DJJeff: You're outrageous. My CC is working fine. |
| 04:29.42 | DWSR | And also, #curse. |
| 04:30.19 | DJJeff | #curse is kinda ummmmmmmmm |
| 04:30.21 | DJJeff | empty |
| 04:30.29 | DWSR | #curseforge? |
| 04:31.18 | DJJeff | http://clientsupport.curse.com/screenshots/204.jpg |
| 04:31.33 | DJJeff | how could the above screenshot not explain the issue |
| 04:31.55 | DJJeff | you would need your eyes scooped out if you cant understand it |
| 04:32.14 | DWSR | DJJeff: Actually, not really. |
| 04:32.22 | DWSR | Intelligent firewall software would have seen your portscan and adapted. |
| 04:32.29 | DWSR | So no, it doesn't really explain anything. |
| 04:32.40 | DJJeff | the connection is being blocked from my end or your end |
| 04:32.45 | ScytheBlade1 | thanks. your concerns have been noted. it will be fixed when it is fixed. |
| 04:32.55 | ScytheBlade1 | (not a curse staffer) |
| 04:33.08 | DJJeff | I am a Curse.com Client "PREMIUM" member |
| 04:33.14 | DJJeff | I refuse to be blocked |
| 04:33.14 | DWSR | DJJeff: I am too. |
| 04:33.28 | DWSR | DJJeff: Firewall software that blocks port scanning is perfectly fine. |
| 04:33.33 | DWSR | You shouldn't be portscanning. |
| 04:33.38 | Cairenn | has a solution |
| 04:33.41 | DJJeff | I did port scan on media4 |
| 04:33.45 | DJJeff | and was not blocked |
| 04:33.48 | DJJeff | I did port scan on media1 |
| 04:33.49 | DJJeff | and was not blocked |
| 04:33.54 | DWSR | Shameless plug for WoWI here > < |
| 04:33.59 | Cairenn | indeed |
| 04:34.02 | Cairenn | :p |
| 04:34.31 | DJJeff | I did not port scan media 2 or 3 when I 1st started up CC V4 |
| 04:34.36 | DWSR | DJJeff: They may have been having some issues with servers in the area. Regardless, that doesn't really help when the problem is limited to..say...50 accounts. |
| 04:34.42 | DWSR | Or 500 acconuts. |
| 04:34.45 | DWSR | accounts* |
| 04:34.49 | ScytheBlade1 | DJJeff: good thing "PREMIUM" is not an uptime guarantee |
| 04:34.50 | DWSR | I'm not having issues with CC at all. |
| 04:35.02 | DWSR | Muchly. |
| 04:35.12 | DJJeff | DWSR you must have a direct link to the server then |
| 04:35.29 | DWSR | DJJeff: Or it's an intermittent problem and not affecting everyone? |
| 04:35.44 | ScytheBlade1 | s/good thing/too bad that/ |
| 04:35.47 | DJJeff | cause mind explaining all the tickets open @ ..... |
| 04:35.48 | DJJeff | http://clientsupport.curse.com/search.aspx?browse=147&filters=8=5 |
| 04:36.09 | DJJeff | thats hard to call "an intermittent problem" |
| 04:36.17 | Trela | yawns. |
| 04:36.47 | DWSR | DJJeff: Do you realise how many thousands of users that Curse has? |
| 04:36.54 | DJJeff | 16 tickets open about the issue |
| 04:37.03 | DJJeff | in the last 10 hours |
| 04:37.06 | DWSR | So? |
| 04:37.21 | DJJeff | do they even know whats wrong? |
| 04:37.23 | DWSR | 16 tickets could have opened in the last 10 minutes. It's still a blip on an otherwise very large radar screen. |
| 04:37.27 | ScytheBlade1 | .................. |
| 04:37.38 | Cairenn | out of curiosity, how does a pissing match between the two of you, neither of whom works at/for Curse, solve anything? |
| 04:37.41 | Seerah | It's also a Saturday night, when the coding staff is out of the office. |
| 04:37.56 | DWSR | Cairenn: It doesn't. I'm bored and need something to do. |
| 04:37.58 | DJJeff | that would explain it |
| 04:38.10 | DJJeff | if curse has so many users |
| 04:38.17 | DJJeff | why is there not 24/7 staff |
| 04:38.19 | Seerah | Or, could be an issue that takes a while to fix. |
| 04:38.24 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 04:38.27 | Seerah | Or, could be something completely not on their end. |
| 04:38.29 | ScytheBlade1 | goodness crap you are whiny |
| 04:38.34 | ScytheBlade1 | stuff breaks |
| 04:38.36 | ScytheBlade1 | deal. |
| 04:38.49 | Seerah | Curse does have staff. But why do they need 24/7 *coding* staff? |
| 04:38.59 | DWSR | SB1: BUT ZMOG WHY IS THERE MAINTENANCE ON TUESDAYS? |
| 04:39.04 | DJJeff | I am not interested in "CODING" staff |
| 04:39.10 | Cairenn | offs, everyone chill |
| 04:39.11 | DWSR | DJJeff: Yes, you really are. |
| 04:39.16 | DJJeff | im talking about tech support network staff |
| 04:39.19 | Cairenn | DWSR: stop it |
| 04:39.21 | Trela | DJJeff: I checked, all the servers are up and reporting back. If there is a bug in the client it will have to wait until Monday. |
| 04:39.51 | DWSR | Cairenn: What? I didn't say anything offensive! |
| 04:39.58 | lebqzz | gotta ask |
| 04:40.07 | Arrowmaster | the servers are in a data center afaik, not at the curse offices |
| 04:40.09 | lebqzz | anyone know about the takeover pvp bar. whre it has gone? |
| 04:40.17 | DWSR | lebqzz: "the pvp bar"? |
| 04:40.20 | kd3 | it's still there. your mods have have hidden it |
| 04:40.24 | kd3 | the "capture bar" |
| 04:40.26 | DWSR | Ah. |
| 04:40.26 | DWSR | Yes. |
| 04:40.27 | DJJeff | this data center doesn't have people watching their network? |
| 04:40.28 | DWSR | What kd3 said. |
| 04:40.39 | Arrowmaster | i would hope it does |
| 04:40.40 | DWSR | DJJeff: Might not be the data center's fault. |
| 04:40.41 | Seerah | lebqzz: it's attached to the bottom of your minimap cluster. Do you have your minimap moved to the bottom of your screen? |
| 04:40.43 | lebqzz | i have no mods |
| 04:40.49 | Arrowmaster | but maybe something went wrong on the server and not the network |
| 04:40.51 | lebqzz | and 3 other people cant see them either |
| 04:41.07 | Trela | is ignored. |
| 04:41.10 | lebqzz | nop everything standard |
| 04:41.12 | DWSR | lebqzz: Where are you trying to find them. The only place the capture bar is even used is EotS |
| 04:41.15 | lebqzz | because i want to get the name of it.. |
| 04:41.26 | lebqzz | Venture bay |
| 04:41.31 | Cairenn | Trela: I noticed that too |
| 04:41.35 | DWSR | No cap bar there, iirc. |
| 04:41.41 | DWSR | Then again, I've never really been |
| 04:41.44 | lebqzz | lol serious? |
| 04:41.49 | kd3 | wintergrasp |
| 04:41.52 | kd3 | cap bars there |
| 04:41.56 | DWSR | kd3: Ah, true. |
| 04:41.59 | lebqzz | also I KNOW it was on the 3 posts in hellfire |
| 04:42.10 | Trela | DJJeff, Arrowmaster, I can see the servers. They appear to be fine. |
| 04:42.12 | DWSR | lebqzz: I was talking more about current level content. |
| 04:42.13 | lebqzz | havent seen em since 3.0,0 |
| 04:42.19 | lebqzz | well even that is gone |
| 04:42.21 | Shadowed | Capture bars are used anywhere an area can be captured by proximity |
| 04:42.34 | Shadowed | EPL/Nagrand/WG/EoTS/etc |
| 04:42.35 | DWSR | Shadowed: /nick CptObvious ;) |
| 04:42.39 | lebqzz | so it should show here in venture bay while we are capturing the lighthouse lol |
| 04:42.41 | Shadowed | IoC too |
| 04:42.45 | lebqzz | the flag just went grey ;P |
| 04:43.11 | Wobin | lebqzz, are you stealthed? |
| 04:43.15 | Wobin | or off the ground? |
| 04:43.18 | lebqzz | nop on the ground.. as a pally |
| 04:43.25 | lebqzz | not even mounted lol |
| 04:43.30 | Wobin | maybe you deflagged |
| 04:43.30 | lebqzz | we are taking this over |
| 04:43.34 | lebqzz | pvp server |
| 04:43.41 | Wobin | oh flag went grey |
| 04:43.42 | Wobin | not the bar |
| 04:43.48 | lebqzz | ye we are taking it ;P |
| 04:43.52 | lebqzz | i just dont have my bar |
| 04:43.57 | lebqzz | or none of us have |
| 04:44.07 | Wobin | do you have sexymap? |
| 04:44.19 | lebqzz | nop |
| 04:44.23 | DWSR | Wobin: He said no mods. |
| 04:44.23 | lebqzz | modless |
| 04:44.26 | Wobin | oh |
| 04:44.30 | Wobin | why are you here? =P |
| 04:44.34 | DWSR | ^ |
| 04:44.34 | DWSR | :P |
| 04:44.38 | lebqzz | cause I'm dev'ing my mod ;P |
| 04:44.47 | lebqzz | but this little problem has annoyed me for some time |
| 04:44.51 | DWSR | lebqzz: Look through Chinchilla's source. |
| 04:44.56 | DWSR | lebqzz: Chinchilla has a mover for it. |
| 04:44.59 | lebqzz | cause i want to move minimap ;P |
| 04:45.05 | lebqzz | moveanything aswell ;P |
| 04:45.14 | lebqzz | but its not showing. when i want it ;P |
| 04:46.40 | lebqzz | within the week the wow prog book should be arriving ;P |
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| 04:51.11 | DWSR | Anyone here have experience with svn2git, the ruby util? |
| 05:00.46 | Shirik | I have a better idea |
| 05:00.47 | Shirik | don't use git |
| 05:03.10 | Milyardo | Whats wrong with git? |
| 05:03.21 | kd3 | Shirik doesn't get it |
| 05:03.30 | Shirik | I get it just fine |
| 05:03.41 | Shirik | it's the same as hg and bzr in unbound mode |
| 05:03.47 | Shirik | but I just don't like git |
| 05:06.47 | DWSR | http://thegleebox.com <- fuck yes. |
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| 05:17.49 | Wobin | no no |
| 05:17.53 | Wobin | Shirik doesn't git it |
| 05:17.58 | DWSR | lol |
| 05:19.04 | Torhal | DWSR: Are you trying to use git with an SVN repo? |
| 05:19.15 | DWSR | no, I'm trying to migrate |
| 05:19.52 | Torhal | DWSR: http://kb.wowace.com/repositories/convert-svn-to-git/ |
| 05:19.56 | Adys | DWSR: http://www.kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-svn.html |
| 05:20.24 | Torhal | I use git-svn with ARL and Revelation, though I should really just convert the repos. |
| 05:20.27 | DWSR | Adys: svn2git is a better solution according to github and Torhal: No information on svn2git is provided, all that's listed is for svn2git |
| 05:20.43 | DWSR | s/for svn2git/git-svn/ |
| 05:20.44 | Shirik | surely there is a tool that uses svnsync to translate into git |
| 05:20.53 | DWSR | Shirik: svn2git. |
| 05:21.06 | Arrowmaster | svn2git is a git-svn wrapper |
| 05:21.07 | Arrowmaster | afaik |
| 05:21.29 | cog|away | Seerah: random? |
| 05:21.43 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: http://github.com/jcoglan/svn2git |
| 05:21.46 | DWSR | Apparently not. |
| 05:21.47 | Seerah | I need to turn on Prat's ping module... :p |
| 05:21.55 | cogwheel | :) |
| 05:22.13 | Arrowmaster | DWSR: i know what it is, ive used it before over a year ago |
| 05:22.32 | DWSR | we will see shortly |
| 05:22.53 | DWSR | svn2git just finished running on Aloft's SVN @ WoWI. |
| 05:23.42 | Arrowmaster | now you need to run it on the old wowace svn and put that one infront of the wowi one |
| 05:24.23 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: I'm switching the project to Git because Git > SVN |
| 05:24.38 | Adys | DWSR: I've never used any git conversion tool, I just know they exist because they're constantly talked about on the bzr ML |
| 05:24.53 | DWSR | Adys: lol irony? |
| 05:25.42 | Torhal | DWSR: Really, though, git-svn transforms the SVN repo into a local git repo. From there, all you should have to do is go to the project page and change the repo type to git, then push to remote. |
| 05:25.59 | DWSR | Torhal: Except it doesn't make git-native tags. |
| 05:26.03 | DWSR | Which is what I want. |
| 05:26.22 | Torhal | For old shit? :) Okay. |
| 05:28.15 | Arrowmaster | the command on the kb page is better i think |
| 05:28.27 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: They're both listed. |
| 05:28.32 | Arrowmaster | svn2git doesnt look like it preserves commiter info or date for tags |
| 05:28.40 | Arrowmaster | DWSR: i know they both are |
| 05:28.43 | DWSR | :P |
| 05:29.13 | DWSR | I'm waiting for the result of my svn2git run. |
| 05:29.20 | DWSR | I might try git-svn as well, though, sec. |
| 05:29.32 | Arrowmaster | svn2git just runs git-svn |
| 05:29.50 | Shirik | why are there 500 tools for pairing svn with git? |
| 05:30.03 | Arrowmaster | then trys to automatically fix up the tags |
| 05:30.39 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: there arent many, only 3 really that i know of |
| 05:30.42 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 05:30.49 | DWSR | Github provides it, then svn2git and git-svn |
| 05:30.54 | DWSR | I don't know of any others. |
| 05:30.58 | Arrowmaster | i wasnt counting github |
| 05:31.06 | Arrowmaster | since github does nothing but run git-svn |
| 05:31.14 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: Yeah, probably. |
| 05:31.17 | Arrowmaster | there is a fast import script |
| 05:31.24 | DWSR | "fast import"? |
| 05:31.36 | Arrowmaster | i know all github does is run git-svn because ive seen the results and its the same as git-svn |
| 05:31.37 | DWSR | Just takes a snap of the SVN repo and adds it all to a git repo? |
| 05:32.19 | Arrowmaster | thats not what git-svn does |
| 05:32.27 | DWSR | Arrowmaster: No, the "fast import" script |
| 05:32.58 | Arrowmaster | git-svn is two way |
| 05:33.05 | Arrowmaster | fast import scripts are one way |
| 05:33.39 | DWSR | http://www.eclipse.org/egit/ <-- Thank you god. |
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| 05:35.24 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: http://git.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/InterfacesFrontendsAndTools#Subversion |
| 05:35.45 | Arrowmaster | all the git svn tools, only a few should even be trusted it looks like |
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| 05:57.17 | cogwheel | cog's ugly ui for anyone who cares http://cogwheel.info/upload/files/CogsUI_2010-02-27.png |
| 05:57.38 | cogwheel | (like nevcairiel who i've told it was ugly :P ) |
| 05:57.47 | Shadowed | you need more minimap buttons |
| 05:57.53 | Shadowed | I can still see the border |
| 05:58.35 | cogwheel | yeah the minimap looks like something i found in the fridge once... |
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| 06:05.22 | Wobin | cogwheel, was it trying to make a break for it? |
| 06:05.46 | Wobin | cogwheel, ugh, you have GS built into your tooltips |
| 06:06.06 | Wobin | You're one of the reasons the internet can't have nice things =P |
| 06:09.16 | Shadowed | I thought it was 4chan |
| 06:11.43 | cogwheel | Wobin: more like i'm too lazy to change the default setting |
| 06:14.46 | Adys | default unit frames |
| 06:14.47 | Adys | =( |
| 06:18.27 | lebqzz | i see that cogwheel is not a wasd mover |
| 06:18.44 | lebqzz | and i dont see why ones fingers should remember 40 commands when they can be on the mouse ;P |
| 06:19.50 | cogwheel | lebqzz: i use my mouse for all movement |
| 06:21.04 | Shirik | ok I don't understand quantum mechanics at all |
| 06:21.12 | cogwheel | then you understand it |
| 06:21.13 | Wobin | Shirik, were you expecting to? |
| 06:21.14 | Shirik | but if every particle has a "spin" of 1/2 whatever that is |
| 06:21.16 | cogwheel | or something like that |
| 06:21.22 | Shirik | why do we even bother to note that |
| 06:21.28 | lebqzz | cog what about reversing? |
| 06:21.39 | Wobin | you don't reverse |
| 06:21.41 | Wobin | you strafe =P |
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| 06:21.44 | lebqzz | walk backwards |
| 06:21.52 | cogwheel | lebqzz: my mouse has a "back" button :) |
| 06:21.53 | Wobin | you don't walk backwards =P |
| 06:22.02 | cogwheel | and i strafe by rocking the mousewheel sideways |
| 06:22.05 | Heilerix | oh hi |
| 06:22.15 | lebqzz | omg |
| 06:22.17 | lebqzz | stress |
| 06:22.17 | cogwheel | logitech g7 |
| 06:22.44 | lebqzz | Razor naga here |
| 06:24.04 | Wobin | http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/world/massive-quake-hits-chile-hundreds-dead/20100228-pam1.html?selectedImage=0 |
| 06:24.05 | Wobin | woah |
| 06:24.17 | Wobin | "Suddenly, BOAT" |
| 06:26.50 | Heilerix | I looking for a german community, can someone help me? |
| 06:27.14 | lebqzz | doesnt exist |
| 06:27.15 | lebqzz | its a lie |
| 06:27.25 | Heilerix | ok |
| 06:27.27 | lebqzz | ;P |
| 06:28.12 | Heilerix | my english is so bad, but i understand :D |
| 06:28.41 | Shirik | does anyone know of a command line MPQ extractor or a library that would be compatible with C++ for extracction of MPQ files? |
| 06:30.40 | Shadowed | Is whatever that popular MPQ extractor is not have a command line? |
| 06:30.48 | Shadowed | wow that made no sense |
| 06:30.55 | Shadowed | Does whatever the popular MPQ extractor is, not have a command line? |
| 06:32.24 | Shirik | that made less sense |
| 06:32.27 | Shirik | but I understand you |
| 06:32.29 | Shadowed | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPQ |
| 06:32.33 | Shirik | however I do not know the answer to your question |
| 06:32.36 | Shadowed | Looks like there's a few libraries/programs |
| 06:32.40 | Shadowed | You looked at those I take it? |
| 06:33.11 | Shirik | ugh, they started using a new compression algorithm in SC2? |
| 06:33.12 | Shirik | figures |
| 06:33.24 | Shadowed | Ladik's has a command line apparently |
| 06:34.19 | Shirik | well let's find out if libmpq can handle SCII's format |
| 06:36.05 | Arrowmaster | 0.4.2 Release notes (05/16/08 16:50:19) |
| 06:36.07 | Arrowmaster | doubt it |
| 06:36.20 | Shirik | bahhhhhhhhhhh |
| 06:36.43 | Arrowmaster | StormLib has historically been the better one but it might not be updated yet either |
| 06:37.55 | Shirik | I guess I'll just wait for Cide see what he's using |
| 06:38.25 | Heilerix | ok, i have found something. thx an goodbye |
| 06:38.33 | Heilerix | and ^^ |
| 06:38.36 | Adys | Shirik: yeah Ladik's supports command line |
| 06:38.48 | Adys | if you need a library, theres libmpq |
| 06:38.59 | Shirik | But does it support SCII (LZMA) |
| 06:38.59 | Adys | which also has python bindings btw \o/ |
| 06:39.01 | Shirik | that is the question |
| 06:39.04 | Shirik | no fuck python |
| 06:39.07 | Adys | pretty sure it does |
| 06:39.15 | Arrowmaster | did SC2 come with Storm.dll? |
| 06:39.44 | Adys | Repository Root: https://libmpq.org/svn |
| 06:40.39 | Shirik | I see no storm.dll |
| 06:41.05 | Shirik | Adys: The real question: Does it compile for Windows |
| 06:41.16 | Adys | dont see why not |
| 06:41.22 | Arrowmaster | it hasnt been updated since 2008, i doubt it will work |
| 06:41.37 | Arrowmaster | why dont you ask ScytheBlade1 what hes been using |
| 06:41.50 | Adys | wat |
| 06:41.56 | Adys | its been updated just a couple months ago |
| 06:42.09 | Shirik | because ScytheBlade1 is asleep! |
| 06:42.11 | Adys | the mpq format doesn't get that many updates either |
| 06:42.21 | Adys | in like 5 years it was changed twice |
| 06:42.21 | Shirik | SCII uses a new compression format |
| 06:42.33 | Shirik | well not "new" compression format |
| 06:42.37 | Adys | lzma? |
| 06:42.37 | Shirik | just one that had not previously been used |
| 06:42.38 | Arrowmaster | Adys: it changes every fucking blizzard patch or expansion almost |
| 06:42.40 | Shirik | yes LZMA |
| 06:42.53 | Adys | im pretty sure its been supported for ages |
| 06:42.55 | Adys | at least under mpqedit |
| 06:43.05 | Arrowmaster | er not patch but new blizzard game or expansion |
| 06:43.05 | Adys | which is based off stormlib which is based off libmpq |
| 06:43.14 | Shirik | ok I'll just build libmpq and see what happens |
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| 06:43.29 | Shirik | fuck |
| 06:43.30 | Adys | Arrowmaster: it changed once in tbc for bigfile support |
| 06:43.35 | Shirik | I haven't reinstalled VS 2008 yet |
| 06:43.36 | Adys | and once in wotlk, some header changes |
| 06:43.37 | Shirik | gailjwegfawpjefawpjf |
| 06:43.46 | ccox | heh |
| 06:43.47 | Adys | thats twice in 5 years |
| 06:43.47 | Adys | :P |
| 06:43.57 | ccox | healy priest named "publicoption" |
| 06:44.28 | Shirik | heh |
| 06:44.44 | Shirik | he probably sucks, huh? |
| 06:45.43 | ccox | nope, very good |
| 06:47.03 | Arrowmaster | <Adys> which is based off stormlib which is based off libmpq |
| 06:47.10 | Arrowmaster | stormlib is not based off of libmpq |
| 06:47.38 | Adys | why not? |
| 06:47.45 | Arrowmaster | because its just not |
| 06:47.58 | Adys | it's a storm dll rewrite |
| 06:48.58 | Shirik | it appears ladik's works |
| 06:49.03 | Shirik | which means storm.dll should work? |
| 06:49.14 | Arrowmaster | not storm.dll, stormlib |
| 06:49.18 | Adys | storm.dll would always work |
| 06:49.29 | Arrowmaster | storm.dll doesnt exist anymore |
| 06:50.31 | Adys | as long as its attached with the game |
| 06:50.31 | Adys | stormlib likely works if ladik's mpqedit works |
| 06:50.31 | Adys | also Shirik that irc chan isnt going to help you :P |
| 06:50.37 | Shirik | I figured as much |
| 06:51.33 | Shirik | so let's see if I can figure out how the hell to compile libmpq on Windows |
| 06:51.38 | Shirik | oh right, I have no compiler |
| 06:51.44 | Shirik | needs a break |
| 06:54.21 | Shadowed | Write your own compiler |
| 06:54.26 | Shadowed | you've got time |
| 06:54.33 | Shirik | o.o; |
| 06:54.37 | Shirik | I go to download svn |
| 06:54.37 | frontendloader | and your own compiler compiler |
| 06:54.45 | Shirik | and the ad on sourceforge is about perforce |
| 06:54.54 | Shirik | targetted advertising ftw |
| 06:55.48 | Arrowmaster | you see advertisements on the internet? fail |
| 06:56.04 | Shirik | see, I respect the people that give us a service for free |
| 06:56.18 | Adys | you call sourceforge a service? |
| 06:56.28 | Adys | i call it a piece of fail personally |
| 06:56.28 | Shirik | as opposed to? |
| 06:57.06 | Arrowmaster | doesnt matter if i respect the site or not, all off site javascript is blocked because its a security risk |
| 06:57.20 | Adys | it's user-unfriendly, slow as hell, their design looks terribad and it's littered with ads |
| 06:57.52 | frontendloader | github or google code |
| 06:57.59 | Arrowmaster | but yeah sourceforge went to hell years ago |
| 06:58.11 | Adys | github is a good replacement for sourceforge yep |
| 06:58.20 | Shirik | no it is not |
| 06:58.22 | Shirik | you know why? |
| 06:58.24 | Shirik | IT USES GIT |
| 06:58.31 | Adys | for large projects its fine |
| 06:58.35 | Bruners | and what is wrong with git |
| 06:58.40 | Arrowmaster | sourceforge uses git too |
| 06:58.43 | Shirik | I find it interesting that google code doesn't support git |
| 06:58.53 | Shirik | despite that linus went down there to talk to them |
| 06:58.54 | Bruners | more google fail |
| 06:59.05 | Shirik | Bruners: Honestly, git isn't the primary cause of my hatred for it |
| 06:59.08 | Arrowmaster | google doesnt use svn at all internally |
| 06:59.09 | Adys | yeah google code only supports shitty versioning systems |
| 06:59.39 | Adys | although |
| 06:59.47 | Arrowmaster | google code added hg support didnt they? |
| 06:59.51 | Adys | yes |
| 06:59.57 | Adys | it may be because they dont want their users to have to install 10000 cvs |
| 07:01.25 | Arrowmaster | imho they got it backwards and should have added git support since you can use the hg client with a git server |
| 07:01.25 | Adys | I'll admit theres nothing more annoying than getting a few libs off a code repo, and seeing that one uses svn, another uses git, another uses bzr, another uses hg, and the last one uses mnt |
| 07:01.25 | Arrowmaster | mnt? |
| 07:01.25 | Shirik | lol @ mnt |
| 07:01.25 | Adys | yeah |
| 07:01.25 | Adys | mnt |
| 07:01.26 | Adys | fucking pidgin uses that shit |
| 07:01.28 | Adys | asstards |
| 07:01.35 | Arrowmaster | ive never even heard of it |
| 07:01.39 | Adys | monotone |
| 07:01.43 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 07:01.44 | Adys | it's as boring as it says on the can |
| 07:01.45 | Arrowmaster | that |
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| 07:04.04 | Shirik | woah |
| 07:04.14 | Shirik | I just broke sourceforge |
| 07:04.29 | Adys | thank god |
| 07:04.43 | Adys | ~champagne for Shirik |
| 07:05.20 | Adys | ~shampagun |
| 07:05.21 | purl | I think it's pronounced "champagne" |
| 07:06.45 | Shirik | o.o; |
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| 07:07.46 | Adys | someone doesnt watch futurama |
| 07:07.48 | Adys | also Shirik |
| 07:07.49 | Adys | r"(\w+) \((\w+)\)" |
| 07:08.00 | Adys | why dosn't this match "Arcane Intellect (Rank 1)"? |
| 07:08.15 | Adys | oh |
| 07:08.16 | Adys | doh |
| 07:08.20 | Adys | \w wont match 1 |
| 07:08.51 | Shirik | or the space |
| 07:09.01 | Adys | theres a space in there |
| 07:09.02 | Adys | :P |
| 07:09.08 | Shirik | ? |
| 07:09.13 | Shirik | no there isn't? |
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| 07:09.22 | Shirik | It would have to be [\w ] |
| 07:09.25 | Adys | nm, we arent talking about the same thing |
| 07:09.31 | Shirik | or, more accurately, [\w 0-9] |
| 07:09.38 | Adys | yea |
| 07:09.52 | Adys | just using .+ |
| 07:12.35 | Adys | get() returned more than one Spell -- it returned 3! Lookup parameters were {'name': u'Arcane Intellect', 'rank': u'Rank 5'} |
| 07:12.36 | Adys | SIGH |
| 07:12.53 | Adys | BLIZZARD I H8 U |
| 07:17.18 | Bruners | wow trials are up to date with patches etc? |
| 07:17.27 | Bruners | for fixing addons that is |
| 07:20.08 | Shirik | Adys |
| 07:20.10 | Shirik | l2SC2 |
| 07:26.39 | Sixen | lawl |
| 07:26.42 | Shirik | Bring me two pina coladas, I need one for each hand |
| 07:26.51 | Sixen | Double-fisting pina's? |
| 07:27.28 | Shirik | Let's set sail with Captain Morgan, and never leave dry land |
| 07:27.36 | Wobin | better than wasting away in marguritaville |
| 07:27.54 | Shirik | troubles? I forgot 'em; I buried them in the sand. So bring me two pina coladas to say goodbye to something I don't understand (hey that rhymes!) |
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| 07:31.32 | Adys | shirik |
| 07:31.37 | Adys | http://dpaste.com/165844/ |
| 07:31.57 | Adys | code to reverse required spells from trainers |
| 07:31.58 | Adys | =( |
| 07:31.59 | Shirik | AGH |
| 07:32.01 | Shirik | PYTHON |
| 07:32.04 | Shirik | MY EYES I'M BLIND |
| 07:32.14 | Shirik | dude |
| 07:32.24 | Shirik | EVERY LINE except the first 3 have underscores |
| 07:32.44 | Adys | actually the 4th one doesn't either |
| 07:32.49 | Shirik | ... |
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| 07:33.18 | Shirik | after I finish installing Visual Studio I am going to use this DVD to chop off your head |
| 07:44.20 | lebqzz | http://www.crispygamer.com/comics/ding/Ding-2008-10-07.aspx this is soo true |
| 07:54.28 | Shirik | Day 18253 |
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| 08:07.10 | cogwheel | http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/02/saturday_night_penis_fencing.php O_O |
| 08:08.04 | Cairenn | if I click that link, am I going to have to yell at you cogwheel? |
| 08:08.08 | Cairenn | or am I just going to laugh? |
| 08:08.13 | cogwheel | nope. |
| 08:08.32 | cogwheel | well, i don't know ... depends on your sense of humor :P |
| 08:10.19 | cogwheel | the comments sure offer a few chuckles :) |
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| 08:12.12 | Cairenn | true |
| 08:12.50 | Shirik | wtf |
| 08:14.15 | Cairenn | (that the comments are amusing) |
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| 08:21.07 | Shirik | You know, what makes the people at WinRAR think that they should associate with JAR files by default |
| 08:21.12 | Shirik | are they not aware of how broken that makes things? |
| 08:22.16 | Arrowmaster | why the hell did you install winrar? |
| 08:22.29 | Adys | agreed with Arrowmaster, wtf do you need it for? |
| 08:23.04 | Landrell | ! |
| 08:23.48 | cogwheel | thirded |
| 08:24.00 | Shirik | wow Adys |
| 08:24.05 | Shirik | libmpq isn't even remotely compatible with Windows |
| 08:24.13 | Adys | patch it and send the patches then |
| 08:24.14 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: Laziness |
| 08:24.17 | Adys | dude |
| 08:24.19 | Adys | 7zip.org |
| 08:24.22 | cogwheel | ^ |
| 08:24.26 | Shirik | meh |
| 08:24.28 | Shirik | too late! |
| 08:24.29 | Adys | no |
| 08:24.33 | cogwheel | no meh |
| 08:24.33 | Adys | no, just no |
| 08:24.35 | Adys | no laziness |
| 08:24.41 | Adys | 7zip is faster to install |
| 08:24.43 | Shirik | Adys: I would be making the first patch in 2 years |
| 08:24.44 | Adys | and LESS BROKEN |
| 08:25.44 | Shirik | ... lol |
| 08:25.46 | Shirik | 1>libmpq - 339 error(s), 2 warning(s) |
| 08:26.06 | Shirik | And may I add that visual studio naturally stops at 100 errors? |
| 08:26.12 | Shirik | So something must be REALLY broken |
| 08:26.35 | Shirik | ......... |
| 08:26.38 | Shirik | Things like: } __attribute__ ((packed)) mpq_header_s; |
| 08:26.45 | Shirik | I'm not even going to try. This is gcc-specific |
| 08:27.24 | Adys | then fix it |
| 08:27.24 | Adys | :P |
| 08:27.35 | Adys | libmpq needs some love imho |
| 08:27.35 | Shirik | I'd have to rewrite half the thing |
| 08:27.46 | Shirik | it's both POSIX and gcc-dependant |
| 08:27.49 | Arrowmaster | just use stormlib |
| 08:27.57 | Shirik | I think I will |
| 08:28.03 | Adys | stormlib hasnt been updated in 2 years |
| 08:28.22 | Arrowmaster | then why does ladik's still work on sc2? |
| 08:28.43 | Adys | probably because he has his own fork of stormlib he doesnt publish anymore |
| 08:29.13 | Adys | ugh |
| 08:29.22 | Adys | the new youtube interface doesn't show average rating |
| 08:29.25 | Adys | annoying |
| 08:30.16 | Arrowmaster | i see nothing in the libmpq changelog about adding lzma support |
| 08:32.14 | Adys | im positive its been there for ages |
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| 08:32.28 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: btw compiling it with ming32 would probably work |
| 08:32.45 | Arrowmaster | Adys: unless the author was in the sc2 alpha thats not fucking possible |
| 08:32.45 | Shirik | lazy |
| 08:33.01 | Adys | Arrowmaster: why? |
| 08:33.11 | Adys | mpqedit supported various types of compression before |
| 08:33.25 | Arrowmaster | because the mpq format changed for sc2 to add lzma |
| 08:33.29 | Adys | meh |
| 08:33.42 | Shirik | strange |
| 08:33.42 | Adys | then just use mpqedit's command line idk |
| 08:33.47 | Adys | want an example script? |
| 08:33.54 | Shirik | looking at the stormlib source right now |
| 08:33.58 | Arrowmaster | http://wiki.devklog.net/index.php?title=MPQ_format_specification |
| 08:33.58 | Shirik | I see no indication that it works with lzma |
| 08:34.03 | Shirik | but ladik's works fine |
| 08:34.28 | Arrowmaster | does ladik's have a compiled copy of stormlib with it? |
| 08:34.29 | Adys | Shirik: http://dpaste.com/165852/ |
| 08:34.37 | Arrowmaster | if so check the version data on the dll |
| 08:35.01 | Shirik | I have no idea what I'm looking at Adys |
| 08:35.07 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: It's just an executable, seems to be statically linked |
| 08:35.12 | Adys | Shirik: mpqedit's command line scripting thing |
| 08:35.22 | Shirik | irrelevant |
| 08:35.24 | Shirik | does it work with lzma |
| 08:35.28 | Shirik | that is the important question |
| 08:35.31 | Adys | .... |
| 08:35.34 | Adys | you said yourself it works |
| 08:35.38 | Shirik | no I said Ladik's works |
| 08:35.41 | Adys | yes |
| 08:35.41 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: date on the executable? |
| 08:35.42 | Adys | that is ladik's |
| 08:35.49 | Shirik | I thought Ladik's uses stormlb |
| 08:35.56 | Adys | that IS stormlib |
| 08:36.02 | Shirik | I'm so confused |
| 08:36.07 | Arrowmaster | me too |
| 08:36.07 | Adys | its a cli to mpqedit |
| 08:36.15 | Adys | you can run mpqedit in console mode |
| 08:36.23 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: Curious: Feb 16 2010 |
| 08:36.28 | Adys | mpqedit /console myscript.mp2k |
| 08:37.16 | Shirik | maybe I'll send him an email |
| 08:37.54 | Shirik | Adys |
| 08:38.11 | Shirik | how can mpqedit be both mpqlib and stormlib |
| 08:38.20 | Adys | theres no mpqlib |
| 08:38.26 | Shirik | what |
| 08:38.31 | Shirik | I was looking at it myself |
| 08:38.32 | Adys | its libmpq and its not based directly on it |
| 08:38.36 | Shirik | whatever |
| 08:38.40 | Shirik | libmpq |
| 08:38.42 | Shirik | same thing |
| 08:38.43 | Arrowmaster | they are unrelated |
| 08:39.14 | Arrowmaster | unless libmpq is based on stormlib, because stormlib sure as hell isnt based on libmpq |
| 08:39.34 | Adys | shrugs |
| 08:40.11 | Shirik | I want such a simple thing why is it so hard T_T |
| 08:40.25 | Adys | .. didnt you want a cli thing? |
| 08:40.31 | Adys | thats exactly what i gave you |
| 08:40.31 | Shirik | Well |
| 08:40.34 | Adys | and it works |
| 08:40.38 | Shirik | I am trying to write a program that operates on MPQ files |
| 08:40.38 | Adys | if ladik's works |
| 08:40.39 | Adys | it works |
| 08:40.52 | Shirik | cli would work but it's a hack more than anything else |
| 08:40.55 | Shirik | I would prefer a real library |
| 08:41.07 | Adys | i know |
| 08:41.16 | Arrowmaster | mpqkit maybe |
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| 08:42.02 | Shirik | bleh |
| 08:42.09 | Shirik | I'm going to go play some, get my mind off this for a bit |
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| 09:03.08 | Shirik | Anyone here have SC2 and want to help me with a test? It will take you all of about 5 minutes |
| 09:03.23 | Shadowed | I don |
| 09:03.32 | Shadowed | I don't know if I would trust you, you're doing bad things with the MPQ it sounds like! |
| 09:03.50 | Shirik | I'm not altering anything, just looking :) |
| 09:03.57 | Shadowed | uh huh |
| 09:04.03 | Shirik | I'm not a bad person :( |
| 09:04.10 | Shadowed | I don't believe you |
| 09:04.13 | krka | that's what hitler said too |
| 09:05.39 | krka | i am not saying you are hitler, but isn't it odd that no one has seen you and hitler at different places at the same time? |
| 09:06.39 | Shirik | ... |
| 09:10.02 | Shadowed | You have to admit Shirik, krka's logic is sound |
| 09:10.16 | Shirik | it's not deductive logic |
| 09:10.20 | Shirik | it requires an inference |
| 09:10.32 | Shadowed | I already said it is sound, and as such I made it so |
| 09:11.05 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-o+q Shadowed Shadowed!*@*] by Shirik |
| 09:11.47 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shadowed] by ChanServ |
| 09:12.23 | Shadowed | This doesn't work very well when I can reop myself |
| 09:13.35 | Shirik | btcheck #wowuidev |
| 09:13.48 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-q Shadowed!*@*] by Shirik |
| 09:13.53 | Shadowed | Don't make me tell on you to Cairenn |
| 09:14.18 | Shirik | eir was supposed to unban you but I typed the reason wrong |
| 09:14.23 | Shirik | so you got banned for a day instead of a minute :P |
| 09:14.29 | Cairenn | lol |
| 09:14.34 | Shadowed | Sounds like power abuse to me |
| 09:14.41 | Shirik | ban me, go ahead |
| 09:14.55 | Shirik | I take no responsibility for what happens as a result |
| 09:15.13 | Shadowed | No fun in that, you can just remove it :() |
| 09:15.18 | Shadowed | s/:()/:( |
| 09:15.22 | Shirik | oh there's much fun in it |
| 09:15.23 | Shirik | for me |
| 09:15.33 | Shadowed | Also I bet you have your bot set to auto kick ban anyone who bans you |
| 09:15.40 | Shirik | not quite |
| 09:15.42 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 09:15.47 | Shadowed | Chanserv? |
| 09:15.47 | Shirik | but that's not a bad idea |
| 09:15.53 | Shirik | I should try that |
| 09:16.32 | Shadowed | Now I kind of want to try to find out what happens... |
| 09:16.39 | Shadowed | damn you curiosity |
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| 09:29.20 | Shirik | wtb someone with SC2 to give me 5 minutes of their time :( |
| 09:29.31 | Shirik | I will pay you $10/hr, rounded down to the nearest hour |
| 09:29.48 | Shirik | hell I'll pay you $100/hr, rounded down |
| 09:30.03 | Shirik | $1000/hr? |
| 09:39.41 | amro | Shirik: pay me with a key. |
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| 09:49.23 | Adys | any US player able to report an API bug on the UI forum? |
| 09:49.53 | Adys | pokes kd3 |
| 09:50.27 | Adys | pokes shirik too for the hell of it |
| 09:50.57 | AlteredState | pokes Adys |
| 09:51.11 | Adys | muh :( |
| 09:51.26 | AlteredState | :| |
| 09:51.47 | Adys | actually |
| 09:51.48 | Adys | im an idiot |
| 09:51.49 | Adys | SHADOWED |
| 09:51.55 | Shadowed | I agree with this |
| 09:52.00 | Shadowed | what |
| 09:52.22 | Adys | GetTrainerServiceLevelReq() will always return 0 for spells that are not talents and have already been trained |
| 09:52.37 | Shadowed | awesome |
| 09:53.30 | Adys | report it, or I shall end you and your puny mortal race |
| 09:55.20 | Fisker | slaps Shadowed around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:56.36 | AlteredState | anyone's curse updater not working? |
| 10:02.36 | Cairenn | a number of people's |
| 10:03.53 | Fisker | mine works |
| 10:06.46 | Bruners | Fisker: but you are a pro |
| 10:12.06 | AlteredState | bleh |
| 10:14.20 | Adys | Any dk able to tell me which one of these two spells is the death knight one: |
| 10:14.22 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/52374/blood-strike/ |
| 10:14.25 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/45902/blood-strike/ |
| 10:15.05 | mikma | other one |
| 10:15.13 | nevcairiel | the 52374 |
| 10:15.22 | Adys | thanks |
| 10:16.09 | nevcairiel | or is it .. |
| 10:16.11 | nevcairiel | logs in |
| 10:16.21 | Wobin | the surrounding talents appear to support that |
| 10:18.33 | nevcairiel | Adys: its the second one |
| 10:18.42 | Adys | thanks |
| 10:18.43 | Adys | nevcairiel: how about http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/52372/icy-touch/ / http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/45477/icy-touch/ |
| 10:19.11 | Adys | im guessing 52372 |
| 10:19.32 | nevcairiel | it is |
| 10:19.40 | nevcairiel | the ingame spell has no mentions of threat |
| 10:20.16 | Adys | uh. |
| 10:20.19 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/49143/frost-strike/ |
| 10:20.38 | mikma | why wont you check them from wowhead noob |
| 10:20.58 | nevcairiel | if you only post one, there isnt much to compare! |
| 10:20.59 | Adys | because half the time wowhead parses worse than me |
| 10:21.09 | Adys | yeha no its just the runic power that was weirding me out |
| 10:21.13 | Adys | but seems to act like rage |
| 10:21.13 | Wobin | Adys, check the comments? |
| 10:21.25 | Adys | wobin i dont think the comments care much about the spell id :P |
| 10:21.50 | Wobin | generally they do, because people only reach the spells through talent trees and other organised methods |
| 10:23.09 | Adys | Wobin: on wowhead, most of these lookups are hardcoded |
| 10:23.28 | Adys | I try to make my parser act smart with whether a spell looks real or not |
| 10:23.30 | Wobin | and? |
| 10:23.43 | Wobin | yes yes, but we're talking about identifying correct spells =P |
| 10:23.46 | Adys | Wobin: and most of the time the one hardcoding it doesnt really care which spell is correct |
| 10:23.50 | Wobin | if they're hardcoded, they've gone through the process =P |
| 10:24.06 | Adys | not really, its just an id exclusion and redirect on searches |
| 10:24.26 | Wobin | and they'd've had to had made a decision on which id's to exclude |
| 10:24.42 | Adys | they dont have to :p |
| 10:24.54 | Wobin | Well, no, they could join IRC and ask =P |
| 10:25.00 | Adys | >< |
| 10:25.29 | Adys | I've done these hardcoded exclusions at wowhead before, you just choose one at random and everything relevant is redirected to that id |
| 10:26.54 | Fisker | hey Bruners |
| 10:27.01 | Fisker | sure i'm a pro |
| 10:33.21 | Bruners | Fisker: i just called AlteredState a noob without actually saying it |
| 10:38.25 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/c/3606/alanna-raveneye/#tab=trainedspell_trainer |
| 10:38.25 | Adys | \o/ |
| 10:41.07 | Fisker | k Bruners |
| 10:42.56 | AlteredState | ehh |
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| 11:15.03 | frontendloader | OnUpdate stops firing if you alt tab? |
| 11:16.19 | Fisker | old |
| 11:16.20 | Torhal | frontendloader: Unfortunately, yes. |
| 11:16.25 | Torhal | Couple of patches ago |
| 11:20.21 | jnwhiteh | should be fixed int he future, afaik |
| 11:22.36 | frontendloader | workaround |
| 11:22.37 | frontendloader | ? |
| 11:22.46 | Torhal | There is none. |
| 11:24.17 | frontendloader | I'm just using it to yield/resume a corountine |
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| 11:38.19 | Adys | hey |
| 11:38.20 | Adys | Fisker: |
| 11:39.56 | Fisker | Adys: |
| 11:40.03 | Adys | Fisker look at me |
| 11:40.05 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/34054/#tab=loot_item |
| 11:40.08 | Adys | Im thottbot, look at me |
| 11:40.21 | Fisker | i'm scared |
| 11:40.30 | Adys | don't be |
| 11:40.32 | Adys | I wont hurt you |
| 11:41.15 | Fisker | i wonder why they don't just merge thottbot, allakhazam and wowhead |
| 11:41.22 | Fisker | thottbot looks like shit |
| 11:41.37 | Adys | thottbot is unmaintained afaik |
| 11:41.43 | Adys | i doubt it will still go on after cata |
| 11:41.49 | Bruners | what about wowdb!? |
| 11:42.01 | Adys | wowdb isnt zam |
| 11:42.01 | Adys | :P |
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| 12:09.21 | frontendloader | blegh |
| 12:09.39 | frontendloader | coroutines don't throw errors like normal? |
| 12:12.00 | nevcairiel | no |
| 12:16.48 | Wobin | nothing is easy with coroutines =P |
| 12:17.53 | Fisker | slaps Wobin around a bit with a large trout |
| 12:17.54 | Fisker | bam |
| 12:18.02 | Fisker | unexpected twist amirite? |
| 12:24.19 | Wobin | Your unexpected twist is about as unexpected as the end of the Titanic |
| 12:26.58 | theorbtwo | slaps fisker about with a large snout. |
| 12:27.12 | theorbtwo | Now, that's an unexpected ending. |
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| 12:50.35 | Kaso | I wish the BMA didn't automatically replace codes at the end of their lifespan. it sucks when you're half way through typing and it gets replaced |
| 12:50.47 | Kaso | cos those codes have minutes of la |
| 12:50.49 | Kaso | leeway |
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| 13:03.20 | Kaso | ZorbaTHut, what's the current state of qh incomplete? i think i recall you saying you were going to start tracking information so you could tell when quests were obtainable and stuff. Not been much activity in SA thread |
| 13:04.39 | Wobin | http://fantasyhotlist.blogspot.com/2010/02/abraham-lincoln-vampire-hunter.html |
| 13:06.39 | DWSR | win |
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| 13:20.29 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh5nBb1H38c |
| 13:20.30 | Wobin | zomg |
| 13:20.39 | Wobin | I have never heard or seen this instrument before |
| 13:20.42 | Wobin | I -want- one =P |
| 13:21.34 | cncfanatics | Anyone able to help me out ? For some reason my GridStatusEnable isn't getting called |
| 13:22.05 | cncfanatics | http://pastie.org/846682 <== Code |
| 13:22.47 | cncfanatics | Been bashing my head on it for a while but I have no idea why it isn't :< |
| 13:24.04 | cncfanatics | Anyone an idea ? |
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| 13:25.22 | Wobin | cncfanatics, I don't see where it'd be called from... |
| 13:25.29 | Wobin | unless it's some funky module thing |
| 13:25.40 | cncfanatics | It is |
| 13:25.42 | cncfanatics | Grid module |
| 13:25.50 | cncfanatics | Grid is suposed to call it when the status gets enabled |
| 13:25.54 | cncfanatics | It isn't .. And I can't figure why |
| 13:26.02 | Wobin | GridStatusEnable |
| 13:26.05 | Wobin | or OnStatusEnable |
| 13:26.25 | cncfanatics | OnStatusEnable |
| 13:26.33 | cncfanatics | Oops, slight brainfart on the initial question there |
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| 13:27.05 | cncfanatics | It used to work |
| 13:27.08 | cncfanatics | But stopped working on good day |
| 13:27.15 | Wobin | Don't know enough about Grid's modules to help, I'm afraid |
| 13:27.35 | cncfanatics | Damn |
| 13:27.41 | cncfanatics | Can't say I know much about them either heh :< |
| 13:27.45 | Wobin | if it helps, the code looks fine =) |
| 13:28.33 | cncfanatics | Well, Grid seems to disagree |
| 13:32.04 | A-KO | sigh |
| 13:32.08 | A-KO | I hate slow tanks |
| 13:32.31 | cncfanatics | Everyone does |
| 13:32.46 | Wobin | That's why, if you want to complain |
| 13:32.50 | Wobin | you need to roll your own tank |
| 13:32.58 | Wobin | and stfu =P |
| 13:33.25 | DWSR | I tank as a warlock |
| 13:33.30 | DWSR | People need to stfu and just chainpull. |
| 13:33.32 | Fisker | heeeeeeeeey Wobin |
| 13:33.57 | Wobin | As a tank, I'll chainpull if I feel safe doing so |
| 13:34.12 | Wobin | if you want me to feel safe doing so, dps everything down fast without pulling aggro |
| 13:34.12 | DWSR | As long as the healer can keep you alive, I'd say you're pretty much good to go. |
| 13:34.29 | Wobin | and have the healer keep me up without too much abrupt health drops |
| 13:34.44 | Wobin | if either of those can't be maintained, I'll go slower =P |
| 13:34.51 | Fisker | why won't you hey me Wobin ? |
| 13:35.01 | Wobin | Cause that's just enabling you, Fisker |
| 13:35.07 | DWSR | Fisker: I WANNA KNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWW IF YOU'LL BE MY GIRL |
| 13:35.17 | Fisker | wut? |
| 13:35.17 | Wobin | (hooo! ah!) |
| 13:35.18 | mikma | yes he will. |
| 13:35.27 | DWSR | ^5s Wobin |
| 13:35.35 | Wobin | ^^ |
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| 13:36.05 | Wobin | cncfanatics, I really dunno, comparing it against another grid module, there doesn't appear to be much difference in structure |
| 13:37.03 | DWSR | anyone know of a way to play wow on a remote computer (i.e. a vnc or kvm supporting dx overlays)? |
| 13:37.11 | mikma | heh! |
| 13:37.13 | mikma | Release name: Starcraft 2 Beta PLUS LazyLaunch PLUS MAP PLUS AI MAP |
| 13:37.14 | mikma | Size: 1.61 GB |
| 13:37.26 | mikma | SC2 for everyone! |
| 13:37.37 | Wobin | cncfanatics, what debug message is it getting to? |
| 13:37.59 | cncfanatics | Wobin: I found the issue, but don't know how to fix it |
| 13:38.10 | cncfanatics | Grid's OnEnable handler doesn't seem to get through |
| 13:38.15 | cncfanatics | The following check fails: |
| 13:38.24 | Wobin | is it being rewritten by another module? |
| 13:38.29 | cncfanatics | Not that I know of |
| 13:38.30 | cncfanatics | if module == self.name and self.db.profile[status] then |
| 13:38.39 | cncfanatics | The self.db.profile[status] part fails because its nil |
| 13:38.56 | cncfanatics | I have no idea why though :< |
| 13:39.01 | Wobin | self, db, profile or status being nil? |
| 13:39.11 | cncfanatics | self.db.profile[status] |
| 13:39.14 | cncfanatics | self.db.profile exists |
| 13:39.17 | cncfanatics | status exists too |
| 13:39.24 | cncfanatics | But the status key in that table is nil |
| 13:39.52 | cncfanatics | (The check is in GridStatus.lua) |
| 13:40.28 | cncfanatics | If I bypass grid's OnEnable handler and call OnStatusEnable myself it works perfectly |
| 13:40.42 | cncfanatics | So now I just need to figure out why the crap that thing is nil |
| 13:40.57 | Wobin | have you got other modules running? |
| 13:41.34 | cncfanatics | Yeah, plenty |
| 13:41.41 | Wobin | try it just on it's own |
| 13:41.46 | cncfanatics | Same result |
| 13:41.54 | Fisker | slaps cncfanatics around a bit with a large trout |
| 13:41.57 | Fisker | hay cncfanatics |
| 13:42.18 | cncfanatics | Fisker! You finaly got rid of that - after your name |
| 13:42.19 | cncfanatics | Wheeee |
| 13:42.46 | Wobin | Well, you're passing in 'None' to the status, aren't you? |
| 13:42.55 | Wobin | which I assume is nil |
| 13:42.58 | Fisker | old cncfanatics |
| 13:43.15 | cncfanatics | I've copied that line from another module |
| 13:43.18 | cncfanatics | *Changes it* |
| 13:44.25 | cncfanatics | Wobin: You refering to self:RegisterStatus("alert_Swiftmendable", "Swiftmendable", None) right ? |
| 13:44.29 | Wobin | yeah |
| 13:45.16 | cncfanatics | The third argument is an acemenu table I thought ? That's suposed to be None I think |
| 13:45.24 | cncfanatics | Oh .. Wait a sec |
| 13:45.29 | cncfanatics | None is python :P |
| 13:45.32 | cncfanatics | Let me change that to nil heh |
| 13:45.58 | Wobin | it really shouldn't matter, as it'll define itself to be a global 'None' with a value of nil |
| 13:46.01 | cncfanatics | Changed to nil, same result though, as None had nil as value |
| 13:46.01 | Wobin | but yeah =) |
| 13:46.15 | Wobin | maybe (..., nil, false) |
| 13:46.28 | cncfanatics | What do the arguments in that method stand for anyway ? |
| 13:46.31 | cncfanatics | Never been able to find a list anywhere |
| 13:46.40 | Wobin | (status, desc, options, inMainMenu, order) |
| 13:47.06 | cncfanatics | Same result with false passed as last arg after nil |
| 13:47.11 | cncfanatics | Same result with true as well |
| 13:47.13 | Wobin | although, it should automatically pass false anyway, yeah |
| 13:48.06 | cncfanatics | At this point, I'm clueless as to why it refuses to call my OnStatusEnable |
| 13:49.41 | cncfanatics | Time to try and hack it |
| 13:49.53 | cncfanatics | lets call self.db.profile[status] = true and see what happens |
| 13:50.32 | Wobin | nah |
| 13:50.38 | Wobin | it's a table |
| 13:50.49 | Wobin | you have debugging set on, right? |
| 13:51.16 | Wobin | cause Grid should throw some message when trying to register the status |
| 13:51.16 | cncfanatics | No, grid debugging is kinda overwhelming so just using the prints in my module |
| 13:51.19 | cncfanatics | self.db.profile["alert_Swiftmendable"] = { enable = true} fixed it, btw |
| 13:51.43 | cncfanatics | Seems to be a permanent fix too |
| 13:51.51 | Wobin | well, for various values of 'fix' =P |
| 13:52.01 | Wobin | in that it didn't fix the initial problem =) |
| 13:52.16 | cncfanatics | True :> |
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| 13:52.24 | cncfanatics | But at least it works for my raid in 1 hour :P |
| 13:52.34 | Wobin | I'd say throw up the Grid debugging, and it should tell you where it fails |
| 13:53.09 | ZorbaTHut | kaso, check out the latest changelog on the QH curse page |
| 13:53.18 | A-KO | I always hate choosing whether or not to hold out ofr an item or not when I can buy another upgrade |
| 13:54.21 | Kaso | ah awesome |
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| 14:03.57 | Cide | morning |
| 14:04.31 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=12730404058&sid=1&pageNo=1#15 <-i love it when tech support people have absofuckinglutely no idea of what they're talking about ;3 |
| 14:06.03 | Wobin | um |
| 14:06.06 | Wobin | I've heard that before |
| 14:06.14 | Wobin | but I can't see how a MITM attack applies =P |
| 14:06.19 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 14:06.23 | Fisker | it doesn't |
| 14:06.25 | Wobin | unless the hacker is getting -between- the user and Blizzard |
| 14:06.32 | Fisker | It's like if i watched you over the shoulder and saw your password |
| 14:06.36 | Fisker | then i punch you in the face |
| 14:06.39 | Fisker | = MITM attack |
| 14:06.41 | Fisker | apparently |
| 14:06.42 | Wobin | and type it in =P |
| 14:07.23 | Fisker | I was actually about to make a post with that |
| 14:07.27 | Cide | Wobin: they have to get between you and blizzard, yes |
| 14:07.28 | Fisker | but i figured that'd net me a ban |
| 14:08.09 | Wobin | when all they're doing is taking advantage of the 30 sec auth validity window, with a keylogger |
| 14:08.23 | Wobin | ps, My Turbine account was just hacked |
| 14:08.28 | Wobin | ... they reactivated the account =P |
| 14:08.54 | Wobin | Interesting, since I hadn't touched that account for about a year now =P |
| 14:09.07 | Wobin | and they failed to change the email it was connected to |
| 14:09.15 | Wobin | so I got the reactivation notification |
| 14:09.22 | Wobin | and changed my password |
| 14:09.43 | Wobin | So unless Turbine are so desperate, they're automatically renewing accounts... |
| 14:11.54 | Fisker | i think i got an idea actually |
| 14:11.58 | Fisker | require 2 authenticator codes |
| 14:12.03 | Fisker | Without one the other won't work |
| 14:12.11 | Fisker | Would require them to actually make it MITM for it to work |
| 14:12.39 | Wobin | wouldn't that mean you have to wait til one expires before entering the next one? |
| 14:13.11 | Fisker | it would |
| 14:13.16 | Wobin | and that would just reduce the window for the hackers... |
| 14:13.27 | Wobin | since the keyloggers would get both entries |
| 14:14.02 | Fisker | no |
| 14:14.25 | Fisker | Because 1. Either they get the first code, and don't get the second or 2. they get the second code, but the first one is already invalid |
| 14:14.29 | Fisker | It's like a challenge |
| 14:14.33 | Wobin | hehe |
| 14:14.38 | Fisker | The first one gets authenticated, THEN you get to use the second one |
| 14:14.44 | Wobin | ah |
| 14:14.58 | Wobin | and the first one expires upon first authentication |
| 14:15.04 | Fisker | yep |
| 14:15.16 | Wobin | people will whine about having to enter in so many numbers =) |
| 14:15.20 | Cide | wait what Fisker? |
| 14:15.31 | Cide | how can you get it to work without a MITM-attack anyway? |
| 14:15.38 | Cide | you need to intercept the code anyway |
| 14:15.44 | Wobin | Cide, keyloggers |
| 14:15.55 | Cide | yeah, except the fact that it's keylogged as it is typed in |
| 14:16.01 | Wobin | yeah |
| 14:16.05 | Wobin | the codes are valid for 30seconds after generation |
| 14:16.09 | Fisker | more than that |
| 14:16.13 | Cide | but invalidated when entered |
| 14:16.14 | Fisker | more than a minute actually |
| 14:16.15 | Wobin | so hackers are grabbing it, then logging in straight away |
| 14:16.20 | Wobin | not invalidated |
| 14:16.23 | Cide | are you certain? |
| 14:16.33 | Fisker | They are inivalidated when used, not when entered |
| 14:16.33 | Wobin | lemme try it |
| 14:16.35 | Cide | can two people use the same code twice? |
| 14:16.39 | Cide | Fisker: well yeah |
| 14:16.45 | Fisker | but the user never gets to use it because the keylogger also cuts him off by crashing WoW |
| 14:17.01 | Cide | that's effectively intercepting it :P |
| 14:17.10 | Fisker | still not mitm though |
| 14:17.30 | Cide | technically not I suppose |
| 14:17.34 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, with the current system, the hacker has no need to actually intercept the internet connection and pretend to be a server |
| 14:17.45 | Wobin | which is the definition of MitM |
| 14:18.26 | Wobin | As Fisker said, it's the equivalent of punching you in the face before you can hit 'enter' =) |
| 14:18.45 | Cide | I like turtles |
| 14:18.53 | Fisker | i think the 2-code challenge would work though |
| 14:19.06 | Wobin | Cide, http://www.hottopic.com/hottopic/WhatsNew/Accessories/Teenage-Mutant-Ninja-Turtles-Headband-Shell-Backpack-361439.jsp |
| 14:19.09 | Wobin | Just for you |
| 14:19.12 | krka | Wobin: isn't that exactly what MITM means? |
| 14:19.23 | krka | oops i was scrolled up, so that was old |
| 14:19.25 | Cide | nice, Wobin |
| 14:20.01 | Wobin | Cide, although I have to say, Creepy model is fucking creepy |
| 14:20.26 | Cide | agreed |
| 14:20.49 | krka | hot model is hot! |
| 14:20.59 | krka | then again, anyone would look hot as a ninja turtle |
| 14:22.53 | DWSR | Wobin: Obviously what we need is for WoW to become pirate-ninja'ized. |
| 14:22.59 | DWSR | Then, it will be able to dodge said punches. |
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| 14:24.03 | Wobin | and robotted? |
| 14:25.37 | DWSR | Wobin: Botting is bad, how could you suggest such a thing! :P |
| 14:26.12 | Wobin | "That's a hack, and that's -never- good" =P |
| 14:26.35 | DWSR | http://failblog.org/2010/02/27/word-choice-fail-2/ |
| 14:26.51 | DWSR | http://failblog.org/2010/02/26/celebration-fail/ |
| 14:26.53 | Adys | Wobin: +1 on the creepy |
| 14:26.59 | Wobin | the first has to be deliberate |
| 14:27.26 | DWSR | http://failblog.org/2010/02/26/childrens-book-fail-2/ |
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| 14:30.09 | DWSR | http://failblog.org/2010/02/23/new-england-road-sign-win/ |
| 14:30.15 | Fisker | hmm |
| 14:30.20 | Fisker | another player had a good idea too |
| 14:30.33 | Fisker | One authenticator token at login, and a second one at entering the game |
| 14:30.47 | Fisker | That'd be virtually impossible to pull off |
| 14:30.51 | Fisker | even with MITM |
| 14:30.55 | Fisker | to keylog that is |
| 14:31.19 | DWSR | http://failblog.org/2010/02/22/shoplifting-win/ |
| 14:31.47 | Adys | Fisker: that wouldnt be any different |
| 14:31.55 | Cide | it would |
| 14:31.59 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 14:32.04 | Cide | using the first code to enter the game would invalidate that |
| 14:32.11 | Cide | so either the attacker logs in, or you |
| 14:32.12 | Adys | ah |
| 14:32.14 | Adys | well yeah |
| 14:32.22 | Adys | it would be incredibly annoying tho :P |
| 14:32.24 | Cide | s/logs in/enters the game/ |
| 14:32.29 | Wobin | true |
| 14:32.32 | Adys | DWSR: thats neat |
| 14:32.35 | Fisker | And compared to my solution(2 authenticator codes to one login sequence) this one would require you to actually be in the game |
| 14:32.44 | Fisker | meaning they would have to emulate the real servers, including your characters |
| 14:32.50 | A-KO | they should give out biometric usb keys |
| 14:32.53 | Wobin | Or have Warden check if the authenticator information is going to anywhere but the auth servers =P |
| 14:33.03 | Cide | only problem would be that you'd have to require the two auth tokens to be semantically different |
| 14:33.18 | DWSR | http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/404.jpeg?w=500&h=400 |
| 14:33.20 | A-KO | O |
| 14:33.24 | Cide | otherwise the attacker could crash the game and use the second "enter game" token as the attacker's login token |
| 14:33.34 | A-KO | I'm pretty sure the authenticator system is a bit more complex in its workings than people are assuming :P |
| 14:33.39 | Cide | it's not |
| 14:33.50 | A-KO | heh |
| 14:33.52 | A-KO | okay :) |
| 14:33.54 | Cide | since the player would try again if the game crashed after entering his/her first code |
| 14:34.16 | Adys | A-KO: why would it be? |
| 14:34.16 | Wobin | http://twitpic.com/15q5dz |
| 14:34.21 | Wobin | SURPRISE CLEESE |
| 14:34.31 | DWSR | http://failblog.org/2010/02/17/granny-win/ |
| 14:34.48 | A-KO | Adys: there are things they do on the server end to ensure a bit more security than just the whole idea of the one time code |
| 14:35.08 | Fisker | Hmm they would have to make some kind of new token then |
| 14:35.26 | A-KO | Sadly I couldn't get many more details than that :( |
| 14:35.30 | Fisker | First it generates a 6-digit code, then an 8-digit, then a 6-digit again |
| 14:35.34 | Adys | A-KO: such as? :P |
| 14:35.40 | Fisker | 8-digit would work ingame, 6-digit would work for login |
| 14:35.57 | Wobin | http://twitter.com/DRUNKHULK/status/9731046552 |
| 14:36.16 | A-KO | Adys: Unfortunately I couldn't get the details, but it has to do with where the login and code comes from, the reset time on values, etc. |
| 14:36.43 | DWSR | A-KO: That makes sense. |
| 14:36.58 | Adys | .. where the login and code comes from? |
| 14:36.58 | Cide | eh |
| 14:37.01 | Cide | there's nothing they can do |
| 14:37.04 | Adys | in a MITM they come from the same place |
| 14:37.08 | Adys | thats the whole point of MITM |
| 14:37.10 | Cide | they can't distinguish the attacker from the victim |
| 14:38.13 | Adys | here's some food for thought: the authenticator code is sent plain during the packet |
| 14:38.22 | Adys | unlike most login details |
| 14:38.24 | A-KO | eh, it's not perfect security, but it's a hell of a lot more difficult than most other game systems |
| 14:38.34 | Fisker | They always checking where the login comes from |
| 14:38.55 | Fisker | And as far as i can see they don't actually act like they're from the computer logging in |
| 14:39.03 | Fisker | So they must only take into account successful logins |
| 14:39.09 | A-KO | Adys: that might be different with bnet 2.0 though :P I haven't checked |
| 14:39.25 | Adys | after this drama it will be different next patch |
| 14:39.27 | Adys | no way in hell |
| 14:39.45 | Adys | and |
| 14:39.53 | Adys | theres no "it will be different in bnet 2.0" |
| 14:39.57 | Adys | you are already on bnet 2.0 |
| 14:40.14 | nevcairiel | bnet 1.0 was diablo2 and that era of games, its long gone |
| 14:40.29 | Fisker | login in SC2 is kinda different though |
| 14:40.32 | Adys | wow never used bnet 1.0 |
| 14:40.35 | A-KO | it is Fisker |
| 14:40.40 | Cide | why? |
| 14:40.43 | Cide | password + auth code |
| 14:40.43 | A-KO | it asks for the authenticator on the main screen |
| 14:40.49 | Fisker | not like that |
| 14:40.49 | nevcairiel | wow used its own login system, and then changed to bnet 2.0 accounts |
| 14:40.51 | Wobin | they're doing that next patch |
| 14:40.51 | Adys | .. hows that relevant |
| 14:40.58 | Wobin | for WoW |
| 14:41.06 | Wobin | (putting the auth code on the login screen) |
| 14:41.16 | Adys | its completely irrelevant |
| 14:41.27 | Adys | the auth token is sent after the password either way |
| 14:41.33 | Wobin | It has nothing to do with elephants |
| 14:41.43 | Adys | excuse me wobin |
| 14:41.54 | Adys | I'm an expert in the field and I believe it has everything to do with elephants |
| 14:41.59 | Wobin | lies |
| 14:42.02 | nevcairiel | so its not irrelephant? |
| 14:42.03 | Fisker | i'm an elephant |
| 14:42.04 | A-KO | heh |
| 14:42.06 | Wobin | it's totally irrelephant |
| 14:42.09 | A-KO | I'll bring that thread up to a friend :P |
| 14:42.10 | Adys | I'm on a boat |
| 14:42.11 | A-KO | see what they say |
| 14:42.17 | Wobin | I'm on a horse |
| 14:42.23 | Adys | I'm on a horse, ON a boat |
| 14:42.33 | Fisker | in a plane |
| 14:42.34 | Wobin | I'm riding backwards |
| 14:42.39 | Adys | with diamonds in my hand |
| 14:42.47 | Wobin | And tickets to that -thing- you love |
| 14:43.03 | Adys | I love your thing |
| 14:43.23 | Wobin | spritzes Old Spice around the channel |
| 14:43.35 | Adys | throws Baby Spice on Wobin |
| 14:43.44 | Adys | Smell like a baby, man |
| 14:44.06 | Wobin | http://www.linestanding.com/ |
| 14:44.07 | Wobin | awesome |
| 14:44.19 | Fisker | that old spice commercial is the best commercial ever |
| 14:44.31 | Wobin | at $36/hr, that's decent pay |
| 14:45.30 | nevcairiel | why would you pay someone to stand in a line? |
| 14:45.39 | Wobin | cause you don't have time to? =P |
| 14:45.47 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 14:45.58 | Adys | I wish they'd add "Smell like a man, man" to the old spice flavour text |
| 14:47.37 | Adys | pokes Zootfizzle |
| 14:50.07 | Wobin | tries to tabcomplete zoot |
| 14:50.31 | Adys | he hasnt been here for months |
| 14:51.59 | Fisker | ~seen Zootfizzle |
| 14:52.02 | purl | zootfizzle <n=Zootfizz@WoWUIDev/Blizz/Zooty-Zoot-Zoot> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 275d 10h 36m 57s ago, saying: 'Anyways, later folks!'. |
| 14:52.14 | Fisker | oh my |
| 14:52.46 | Adys | ~seen mypants |
| 14:52.47 | purl | i haven't seen 'mypants', Adys |
| 14:53.03 | Adys | Shirik, have you seen my pants? |
| 14:54.45 | DWSR | rofl @ his hostname. |
| 14:54.49 | DWSR | B5 reference win. |
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| 14:55.26 | nevcairiel | zoot is win in general |
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| 15:11.47 | Kraps | happy Purim yall |
| 15:15.51 | Kraps | "A new virus spawned on the internet a few days ago and seems to be the first trojan capable of hacking a WoW account protected by an Authenticator. It was confirmed by Blizzard a few hours ago. " |
| 15:21.16 | haste | source! so I can laugh at people with authenticators! |
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| 15:22.29 | Kraps | http://www.mmo-champion.com/news-2/authenticator-accounts-hacked-icc-quests-crimson-deathcharger/ |
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| 15:24.05 | amro | cackles |
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| 15:25.19 | A-KO | I use MSE :P |
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| 15:28.15 | Kraps | so do i! |
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| 15:42.42 | Kraps | "Most cryptographic protocols include some form of endpoint authentication specifically to prevent MITM attacks." |
| 15:42.52 | Kraps | BUT...? |
| 15:45.17 | DWSR | Kraps: You can laugh at authenticators all you like, but what's the number of authenticator accounts that have been hacked vs. the number of non-authenticator accounts? |
| 15:45.47 | DWSR | Kraps: For $5, I pretty much make any account compromises my own fault. |
| 15:45.58 | Kraps | DWSR: i wasnt laughing |
| 15:46.07 | DWSR | Kraps: Ah, sorry, it was haste. |
| 15:46.09 | Kraps | its just odd |
| 15:46.21 | DWSR | Kraps: It was bound to happen eventually./ |
| 15:47.01 | DWSR | MITM attacks are hard to stop without some really strong crypto (most of which is illegal in the US) or some other methods, which require the user to be intelligent. |
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| 15:47.38 | A-KO | honestly |
| 15:47.42 | A-KO | it's a pretty slick way to do things |
| 15:47.59 | A-KO | the trojan/virus |
| 15:48.04 | A-KO | I'm impressed |
| 15:48.10 | A-KO | but they have to work fast :P |
| 15:48.12 | Adys | um |
| 15:48.19 | Adys | it's not |
| 15:48.37 | DWSR | s/stop/stop completely/ |
| 15:49.01 | DWSR | the authenticator is a pretty good security token. |
| 15:49.25 | DWSR | Adys: Yeah, I'd have to agree. It's a pretty lame way of doing things. |
| 15:49.33 | Adys | well its not lame or anything |
| 15:49.37 | Adys | it's just a basic exploit |
| 15:49.53 | DWSR | meh, it's lame. |
| 15:50.02 | DWSR | As far as exciting exploits go. |
| 15:50.19 | Adys | well its not exciting in any way :P |
| 15:50.43 | A-KO | people just need to stop being idiots online |
| 15:50.45 | ZorbaTHut | strong crypto isn't illegal in the US, it's just that exporting it to other countries is illegal |
| 15:51.13 | ZorbaTHut | which makes me wonder, if blizzard wanted to add strong crypto to WoW, could they do it by hiring an out-of-country subsidiary? not really sure |
| 15:51.25 | nevcairiel | i still love how they printed the gpg code and then exported the printed book |
| 15:51.26 | Adys | why would they want to |
| 15:51.53 | alestane | I believe the restrictions on exporting crypto have largely been overturned. They depended on a classification of the tech as munitions. |
| 15:52.11 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: From what I remember, the NSA has a list of all of the crypto schemes which are usable inside of the US, and that list is basically all the ones that they can break. |
| 15:52.24 | A-KO | eh, regardless of this, using an authenticator is still vastly more secure than a simple password scheme....but we might see some increases in viruses that do this |
| 15:52.48 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, I'd really need to see a citation for that |
| 15:52.52 | ZorbaTHut | I don't believe that's correct at all. |
| 15:53.14 | zenzelezz | Apple requires you to submit some sort of certificate if applications you upload to the App Store contain encryption |
| 15:53.41 | Kraps | i'm guessing this is the way AC2 will be cracked :p |
| 15:53.48 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: I know that there are restrictions on what crypto schemes you can use. |
| 15:53.51 | nevcairiel | all i know is that its still illegal to export encryptions to countrys on the terror-list |
| 15:54.08 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, I've never heard of that before, and I dabble in encryption and live in the US. Seriously, citation needed :P |
| 15:54.17 | DWSR | Sorry, looking for it. |
| 15:55.34 | ZorbaTHut | US companies have just as strong encryption as anywhere else in the world. I don't know of any country that actually restricts encryption techniques to only insecure ones |
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| 15:56.34 | zenzelezz | I could picture countries like Iran doing that |
| 15:56.51 | A-KO | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSA_Suite_B |
| 15:56.56 | A-KO | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSA_Suite_A |
| 15:57.00 | A-KO | probably what he's referring to |
| 15:57.02 | A-KO | :P |
| 15:57.16 | ZorbaTHut | zenzelezz, the real problem is that if you do that, you're setting up your entire country to be vulnerable to other countries |
| 15:57.21 | A-KO | throw in some conspiracy theory |
| 15:57.23 | A-KO | and good to go |
| 15:57.41 | ZorbaTHut | and it takes a really weird sense of paranoia to intentionally give all your data to (insert evil infidel country here) just so your citizens can't hide it from *you* |
| 15:57.47 | zenzelezz | ZorbaTHut: I'm not saying it's a good idea, just that those types of countries seem more prone to think like that |
| 15:57.48 | nevcairiel | A-KO: those dont limit anything, they just classify what algorithms the NSA uses |
| 15:58.02 | ZorbaTHut | zenzelezz, yeah, I just can't imagine even those countries doing that |
| 15:58.24 | A-KO | nevcairiel: yeah, but what I'm saying is that it's likely what DWSR was talking about :P Where the NSA has "our own stuff" and then "everyone else", throw in some conspiracy theory and "everyone else" is "everything the NSA knows it can break" |
| 15:59.14 | ZorbaTHut | a-ko, it's worth pointing out that the NSA has, in the past, suggested changes to proposed cryptography algorithms without being willing to explain why |
| 15:59.25 | ZorbaTHut | invariably it's turned out to be a major security improvement. :) |
| 16:00.20 | ZorbaTHut | (sha-1 being the classic example) |
| 16:02.47 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Your scenario requires that "other country" knows how to break the crypto that you're using. |
| 16:03.33 | nevcairiel | figuring out how to break a crypto is not hard these days |
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| 16:03.50 | Adys | Did you know this? |
| 16:03.53 | nevcairiel | a good crypto is designed to be hard to break, or in other words, take ages to be broken |
| 16:03.54 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, the US, EU, and Japan are the only organizations that could even claim to be on the forefront of crypto research |
| 16:04.05 | ZorbaTHut | if Iran can break it, the US can probably go through it like paper. |
| 16:04.07 | Adys | if you sold every single item in game once, you would end up with 124080g35s95c |
| 16:04.25 | ZorbaTHut | adys, sounds like a new feat of strength comin' up! |
| 16:04.41 | Adys | doesnt anyone find this number surprisingly low? |
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| 16:04.52 | ZorbaTHut | nah, most things don't vendor for much |
| 16:05.03 | Adys | knowing that there are 26323 vendorable items |
| 16:05.37 | cbreak | russia has had a lot of very capable mathematicians in the past |
| 16:05.45 | Kraps | Adys: lolnerd |
| 16:05.47 | cbreak | and I bet china has lots of anything |
| 16:05.49 | Kraps | oh wait |
| 16:05.52 | ZorbaTHut | even ilvl277 gear sells for, like, <15g |
| 16:06.14 | ZorbaTHut | and most items aren't ilvl277 gear |
| 16:06.17 | cbreak | weapons sell for over 22g |
| 16:06.29 | cbreak | there are some greys that sell from 25g to up to 100g |
| 16:06.29 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, but very few items are weapons :) |
| 16:06.40 | ZorbaTHut | sure, like, six. |
| 16:07.04 | Adys | ... huh |
| 16:07.07 | Adys | this is interesting |
| 16:07.11 | ZorbaTHut | there's also hundreds, if not thousands, of items that sell for under 1g |
| 16:07.40 | Adys | also |
| 16:07.53 | Adys | the item that sells for the most is |
| 16:07.58 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/49922/brazies-dictionary-of-devilish-draenei-damsels/ |
| 16:08.06 | Adys | along with http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/49923/brazies-document-on-dwarven-dates-in-dun-morogh/ |
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| 16:08.11 | Adys | and http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/49924/brazies-notes-on-naughty-night-elves/ |
| 16:08.22 | Adys | and http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/49925/brazies-handbook-to-handling-human-hunnies/ too |
| 16:08.28 | Adys | and I'd like to know wtf those items are tbfh |
| 16:08.33 | DWSR | rofl |
| 16:08.38 | DWSR | Awesome, that's what they are. |
| 16:09.10 | DWSR | anyway, bbl |
| 16:09.41 | ZorbaTHut | http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=37904 haha |
| 16:13.26 | Adys | sigh |
| 16:13.38 | Adys | wowarmory us is asking me to sign in in order to view an item |
| 16:13.42 | Adys | and it has a redirect loop |
| 16:13.43 | amro | http://db.mmo-champion.com/i49917/ |
| 16:21.57 | alestane | Adys: The names, at least, are a reference to one of the designers. |
| 16:22.08 | Adys | ya alex |
| 16:28.49 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/02/27/funny-pictures-cat-poirot-cat/ |
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| 16:59.36 | Craeto | Hey guys |
| 17:00.14 | zenzelezz | hi |
| 17:00.22 | Craeto | Is there a way to edit the default blizzard combat text to add a function? msbt and sct can't do what i want |
| 17:02.02 | Craeto | im trying to find a way to add Overhealing to the default combat text as i like the fact it shows the heals above the targets heads and not just your own or a static position |
| 17:02.57 | A-KO | is monitoring over healing even worth ti anymore? With HOTs ticking at full health, it's entirely possible people will have a high amount of overhealing but didn't waste the heal |
| 17:03.10 | A-KO | as long as your healers aren't running OOM (rofl at this), and people aren't really dying--there's no problem |
| 17:03.43 | A-KO | If you're that concerned about over healing, you might want to cut down on the number of healers you use (many fights in 25-man encounters really only need 4-5 really good healers) |
| 17:03.56 | Craeto | its something i really want in my ui |
| 17:04.59 | A-KO | it's not worth going out of your way to monitor |
| 17:05.04 | A-KO | as it does not negatively affect the game anymore |
| 17:05.33 | Craeto | yeah i know but it anoys me the fact i cant see it |
| 17:06.41 | zenzelezz | is the built-in SCT all C-side? |
| 17:08.40 | Gnarfoz | it's not c-side at all, afaik |
| 17:08.48 | Gnarfoz | it's just Blizzard_CombatText |
| 17:09.04 | zenzelezz | then I guess he could try looking at that code and see if you could hack it in somehow |
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| 17:10.48 | zenzelezz | ah, wait, looks like I misunderstood which combat text |
| 17:11.08 | Craeto | right |
| 17:11.19 | Craeto | the ingame scrolling combat text |
| 17:11.37 | Craeto | what i want to do is make it show overheals |
| 17:11.38 | Craeto | thats it |
| 17:11.45 | Craeto | but i dont know where to start |
| 17:12.24 | Craeto | the only file i can find relating to the combat text is Blizzard_combatText.pub |
| 17:12.33 | Craeto | i always thaught it would be an lua file. |
| 17:13.08 | haste | ~framexml |
| 17:13.09 | purl | Official: (Mac) http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/AddOnKit.dmg, (Win) http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/WoW/other/AddOnKit.zip. Compare: http://wowprogramming.com/utils/xmlbrowser |
| 17:13.25 | haste | you'll need that to extract the blizzard add-ons, but you can't use them like ordinary add-ons |
| 17:13.27 | Craeto | the addonkit ofcourse .. |
| 17:13.47 | haste | it makes you able to see the code, but you'll have to hook it to do what you want |
| 17:14.18 | Craeto | surley its just a simple edit as it already shows the ammount you healed for |
| 17:14.27 | Craeto | i just want to add the ammount overhealed |
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| 17:36.03 | alestane | zenzelezz: The stuff that appears actually over other mobs and players (like the healing you do to them) is triggered C-Side. Just about everything else is a stock add-on, Blizzard_CombatText. |
| 17:36.20 | A-KO | it's pretty difficult to find people that are into roller coasters.... |
| 17:37.58 | alestane | I like roller coasters if they're like, "Wheeee!" roller coasters. I'm not so into the whole "loopdeloop", "sheer drop", "strapped in hanging down" "make you wet yourself" sort of coaster. |
| 17:38.07 | A-KO | ahhhh |
| 17:38.14 | A-KO | see I like 'em to scare the doodoo out of me |
| 17:38.34 | A-KO | new one coming out in the area here I'll have to try this summer |
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| 17:41.03 | Silversage_ | Heyo. |
| 17:42.36 | alestane | You got something stuck on your nick, there... |
| 17:44.03 | Silversage_ | Indeed. Can have two separate windows open with the same nick if I use webchat, and I don't want it managing my windows for me tyvm. |
| 17:44.11 | Silversage_ | s/Can/Can't/ |
| 17:47.48 | Kraps | omg flying in outland doing quests <fapfap> |
| 17:47.58 | Silversage_ | Is there a straightforward way to detect a player's professions? |
| 17:54.21 | Silversage_ | Ah. Cool. Apparently you can just do GetSpellInfo("ProfessionName"). |
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| 18:06.13 | alestane | Kraps, yes, it really changes the flow. |
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| 18:13.19 | ZorbaTHut | I'm amused by quests that are all "go fight your way up to the top of this tower!" |
| 18:13.30 | ZorbaTHut | and I'm all, yep, on it (mounts gryphon, skips twenty mobs) |
| 18:13.55 | alestane | Drop on the top of the twoer and just kill the guy, then fly away. |
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| 18:14.08 | alestane | His minions check in on him and go, "WTF?" |
| 18:14.16 | zenzelezz | "is santa real" - 115 000 000 results |
| 18:15.09 | alestane | Searches done, or pages with the answer? |
| 18:15.59 | zenzelezz | whatever Google uses in the suggestions drop down |
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| 19:20.04 | Tuller | walrus |
| 19:20.43 | haste | r us |
| 19:23.48 | alestane | Goo goo ka chu! |
| 19:29.45 | zenzelezz | "[...] to imagine traversable wormholes created by holding the 'throat' of a Schwarzschild wormhole open with exotic matter"... this should not sound dirty, but it does... |
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| 19:31.56 | Tuller | of course |
| 19:33.22 | Kraps | cross-realm raids y/n |
| 19:34.26 | zenzelezz | n |
| 19:34.41 | nevcairiel | With a mainboard with integrated gfx, can i usually use the PCIe slot on the board freely without the internal gfx turning itself off due to shared pcie lanes or something? Especially with a Q45 chipset, if anyone has experience there |
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| 19:52.55 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: using the PCIe for an a videocard? |
| 19:53.00 | zenzelezz | -an |
| 19:53.06 | nevcairiel | no, a raid controller |
| 19:53.56 | zenzelezz | hm. Well I can't say then, but I believe I've run onboard + videocard before on *some* chipset, don't know which... I'd guess the manufacturer's site should say something about how you could use it |
| 19:54.23 | nevcairiel | the intel and gigabyte page is quite about that topic |
| 19:54.47 | zenzelezz | doh |
| 19:56.04 | nevcairiel | guess i'll just try and plug a pci-e video card in there and see if both work |
| 19:56.11 | nevcairiel | can always return it otherwise |
| 19:56.52 | nevcairiel | I wonder if i still have some very old pci video card around .. |
| 19:56.54 | nevcairiel | one that works, too |
| 20:00.40 | Arrowmaster | most boards make it very clear in their documentation when they share pcie lanes |
| 20:01.29 | Esamynn | * HOCKEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! * |
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| 20:02.59 | nevcairiel | Arrowmaster: i found some diagram that says i can't use DVI-Out when i use the PCIe, but D-Sub apparently wasnt affected by that |
| 20:03.03 | nevcairiel | so i guess its alright |
| 20:03.12 | Esamynn | * HOCKEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! * |
| 20:03.14 | Arrowmaster | weird |
| 20:04.07 | nevcairiel | i think intel wants to sell you some add-in card that goes in the pcie slot to create dvi output |
| 20:04.13 | nevcairiel | since the board itself only does vga |
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| 20:06.15 | Kraps | Snowfox: I run a mac running parallels desktop running windows 7 running virtual box running ubuntu running wine running vista. Just so when someone tries to hack me their head explodes. |
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| 20:10.38 | Cairenn | Our father who art in Vancouver, hockey be thy name. Thy will be done, the gold will be won, on ice, as well as thy stands. Give us this day, our hockey sticks, and forgive us our penalties as we forgive those who cross check against us. Lead us not into elimination, but deliver us to victory. In the name of the Canadian hockey team, AMEN â ⥠â GO, CANADA, GO â ⥠â |
| 20:12.37 | Esamynn | Our father who art in Vancouver, hockey be thy name. Thy will be done, the gold will be won, on ice, as well as thy stands. Give us this day, our hockey sticks, and forgive us our penalties as we forgive those who cross check against us. Lead us not into elimination, but deliver us to victory. In the name of the Canadian hockey team, AMEN â ⥠â GO, CANADA, GO â ⥠â |
| 20:12.47 | Shadowed | shakes head |
| 20:12.49 | Shadowed | Canadians |
| 20:13.02 | nevcairiel | shakes head |
| 20:13.03 | Esamynn | ~gag Shadowed |
| 20:13.04 | purl | ACTION takes away the voice of Shadowed and, as an additional precaution, sews Shadowed's mouth shut permanently... |
| 20:13.06 | nevcairiel | Sport fans |
| 20:13.10 | Shadowed | true nevcairiel |
| 20:14.00 | Fisker | â ⥠â CANADA SUX â ⥠â |
| 20:14.06 | Esamynn | ~lart Fisker |
| 20:14.06 | purl | does a little 'dpkg -P Fisker' action |
| 20:14.07 | *** kick/#wowuidev [Fisker!~Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn (Fisker) |
| 20:14.11 | Esamynn | haha! |
| 20:14.29 | Shadowed | haha nice timing |
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| 20:14.55 | Fisker | that wasn't nice :( |
| 20:15.00 | *** kick/#wowuidev [Fisker!~outlaw@c-98-207-200-159.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] by Shadowed (bye) |
| 20:15.08 | Shadowed | He asked for it! |
| 20:15.09 | Esamynn | high-fives Cairenn |
| 20:15.11 | Esamynn | sweet timing |
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| 20:15.14 | Cairenn | hehehe |
| 20:15.16 | Fisker | that wasn't nice either |
| 20:15.24 | Cairenn | Fisker: don't insult Canada then |
| 20:15.25 | Shadowed | Today is the Canadian holy day Fisker |
| 20:16.50 | Fisker | canada is the best shaman in the world then |
| 20:17.09 | Fisker | paladin actually |
| 20:17.28 | Esamynn | O_o |
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| 20:23.04 | awweaver | Sure is quiet today |
| 20:24.14 | Esamynn | * HOCKEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! * |
| 20:24.52 | Cairenn | ^^ this! |
| 20:27.44 | Zyonin | Oh why oh why did I blunder into a US vs Canada matchup? |
| 20:29.40 | Zyonin | I grew up along the US/Canada border. Although my passport says that I am American, I am as much Canadian as American. I even have a bit of a Canadian (British Columbia) accent |
| 20:31.39 | mikma | canarian |
| 20:31.40 | mikma | haha |
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| 20:33.27 | awweaver | ... |
| 20:35.28 | awweaver | So how is every one doing? |
| 20:36.02 | Cairenn | HOCKEY!!!! |
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| 20:38.29 | Shirik | hockey sucks |
| 20:38.31 | mikma | POCKEY! |
| 20:38.36 | Shirik | I used to play hockey, I would know |
| 20:38.46 | mikma | no, that just means YOU suck |
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| 20:39.44 | Cairenn | GOAL! |
| 20:39.54 | Esamynn | GOAL:!!!!!1 |
| 20:40.01 | mikma | LOAL!!!! |
| 20:40.46 | Esamynn | ~lart mik |
| 20:40.46 | purl | beats the living hamstercrap out of mik |
| 20:40.49 | Esamynn | ~lart mikma |
| 20:40.49 | purl | puts on a hockey mask and jumps out at mikma |
| 20:41.30 | Cairenn | lol |
| 20:41.37 | Gnarfoz | heh |
| 20:41.39 | Esamynn | that's just too perfect |
| 20:41.41 | Esamynn | ~botsnack |
| 20:41.41 | purl | thanks, Esamynn |
| 20:41.42 | Cairenn | purl is being very appropriate today |
| 20:42.36 | Cairenn | PP |
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| 20:46.05 | Arrowmaster | i think a teammate just dropped a nuke in MW2, i got killed by it but still dont have the title for getting nuked |
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| 20:57.03 | Kraps | http://notalwaysright.com/pages-of-a-post-apocalyptic-persuasion/4390 |
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| 21:00.40 | bleeter | Cairenn: I swear if the British Monarchy loses, Ima come over and beat you to a pulp :P ;) |
| 21:00.55 | Cairenn | heh |
| 21:10.48 | Cairenn | PP |
| 21:13.46 | alestane | Couldn't bring it home though. |
| 21:14.45 | alestane | Back atcha! |
| 21:16.44 | Cairenn | GOAL! |
| 21:17.32 | alestane | Dammit. |
| 21:17.39 | alestane | Sweet goal though. |
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| 21:18.24 | Esamynn | Sweet goal |
| 21:20.53 | bleeter | wuts the score? |
| 21:21.08 | alestane | 2-0 CA |
| 21:22.23 | bleeter | lulz |
| 21:22.50 | alestane | The US team, unfortunately, has been mistaking hockey time for nap time. |
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| 21:25.37 | Esamynn | it's been a really good game so far, totally gold medal game quality |
| 21:25.41 | Esamynn | Canada just wants it more |
| 21:26.50 | bleeter | would be good to watch, but I ain't paying $70 for install for one match :P |
| 21:27.32 | Cairenn | bah |
| 21:27.41 | alestane | GOAL! |
| 21:28.14 | alestane | I think we must be on a small delay compared to you, hon. |
| 21:28.32 | Cairenn | heh |
| 21:29.24 | alestane | Of course, I think we've been mandating short tape delays for live events since the damn Super Bowl incident. |
| 21:29.43 | Esamynn | O_o |
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| 21:30.42 | alestane | Because OMG, the horror of a publicly visible nipple on national television. |
| 21:31.00 | Wobin | People don't have -nipples-! |
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| 21:31.11 | Wobin | don't be silly |
| 21:31.35 | kdtresh | publicly visible pastey is more like it |
| 21:35.38 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqGLHluDoe0&feature=player_embedded |
| 21:36.59 | alestane | "We're starting "No Hesitation Fridays." The probability of this going horribly are between 100 to 125 percent" |
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| 21:40.57 | Wobin | Fisker, aha |
| 21:41.05 | Wobin | They're saying it's actually a MitM attack |
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| 21:41.22 | Wobin | because it's faking a incorrect send to the Auth server from 'you' |
| 21:42.16 | alestane | Haipeppy |
| 21:42.33 | Wobin | clearly the way around it is to enter in an incorrect code the first time all the time =P |
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| 21:44.03 | Esamynn | * HOCKEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! * |
| 21:44.14 | Lopeppeppy | hi |
| 21:44.22 | Esamynn | greetings |
| 21:44.23 | Lopeppeppy | been sleeping lots |
| 21:44.47 | alestane | Yeah, likewise. |
| 21:52.17 | bleeter | score? |
| 21:52.54 | Lopeppeppy | gnomes with icepicks are winning |
| 21:53.13 | bleeter | rockin |
| 21:55.01 | alestane | 2-1 ca |
| 21:55.08 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: Um, ow? |
| 21:55.10 | Arrowmaster | fucking cheaters, got into a MW2 game where everybody was moving around at insane speeds |
| 21:57.09 | Lopeppeppy | very ow |
| 22:00.42 | Cairenn | damn if either of those post ringers had been over an inch .... |
| 22:00.52 | Esamynn | Cairenn: I know, sooo close |
| 22:01.02 | Cairenn | or, preferably, both |
| 22:01.12 | Esamynn | haha |
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| 22:09.44 | Esamynn | oh damn! |
| 22:09.48 | Esamynn | so close! |
| 22:09.51 | Cairenn | yeah |
| 22:09.58 | bleeter | hur hur |
| 22:10.59 | Cairenn | get it OUT of there! |
| 22:11.23 | Esamynn | haha |
| 22:14.27 | Cairenn | honest to god, I swear I'm going to have a heart attack before this game is over! |
| 22:15.26 | bleeter | everyone stand clear, I'm ready for the mouth to mouth! |
| 22:15.33 | Cairenn | lol |
| 22:15.42 | Cairenn | get out of our zone! |
| 22:16.10 | Cairenn | wake up! |
| 22:17.22 | Esamynn | LOU!!!!!!! |
| 22:17.39 | Esamynn | LOOOOOOOUUUUUUUU!!!!!! |
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| 22:21.44 | Cairenn | gah |
| 22:21.59 | Esamynn | OH! |
| 22:22.01 | Esamynn | darn |
| 22:22.36 | Cairenn | go go go go go go go |
| 22:24.14 | Esamynn | CA-NA-DA! |
| 22:24.17 | bleeter | MON-AR-CHY! |
| 22:24.18 | Esamynn | CA-NA-DA! |
| 22:24.18 | bleeter | MON-AR-CHY! |
| 22:24.18 | Cairenn | get it out of our end! |
| 22:24.24 | bleeter | MON-AR-CHY! |
| 22:24.42 | Esamynn | LOOOOOOOUUUUUUUU!!!!!! |
| 22:25.54 | bleeter | heh I'm seeing on twitter that air canada are delaying flights so people can watch the end |
| 22:26.25 | Cairenn | goooooooooooo |
| 22:26.39 | Esamynn | HAHAHA |
| 22:27.02 | bleeter | @TommyMunoz I'm watching the USA vs Canada for the Gold... I haven't felt this patriotic since the last time the USA occupied another country. #VAN2010 |
| 22:27.25 | Esamynn | ... |
| 22:27.57 | Cairenn | goooooooooooo |
| 22:28.15 | Cairenn | SHIT |
| 22:28.20 | Cairenn | FUCK |
| 22:28.33 | alestane | GOAL!! |
| 22:28.35 | Cide | haha, great hockey game |
| 22:28.37 | alestane | Tie hockey! |
| 22:28.55 | Cairenn | damnit! |
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| 22:29.38 | Cairenn | damnit |
| 22:29.47 | Esamynn | ^ |
| 22:29.59 | ScytheBlade1 | =) |
| 22:30.11 | alestane | Well, now we'll find out how they're handling ties for a gold-medal game. |
| 22:30.41 | Esamynn | think it's any different than other games? |
| 22:31.42 | Cairenn | better not be a fucking shootout! |
| 22:31.51 | Esamynn | no kiddin |
| 22:32.01 | Esamynn | as good as this game is, I don't want a shootout |
| 22:32.23 | Esamynn | rather have endless overtime, but in the preliminaries, it was 5 min, then shootout |
| 22:33.02 | Cide | I heard 20 min overtime here in sweden |
| 22:33.09 | Cide | not sure if I misheard |
| 22:33.32 | Cairenn | you didn't |
| 22:34.43 | Cairenn | omfg |
| 22:34.47 | Cairenn | akjsdflkjaslkdjflkawherpoa |
| 22:34.55 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:35.15 | Shirik | alwjeflkjawef |
| 22:36.39 | Zyn | throws some relaxants to Cairenn |
| 22:37.05 | Zyn | I don't care for either team, but this is just epic |
| 22:37.10 | Cairenn | like that's gonna work right now? |
| 22:37.18 | Esamynn | it IS epic |
| 22:37.21 | Esamynn | it's GREAT |
| 22:37.26 | Esamynn | but damn |
| 22:37.31 | Esamynn | I wanted an empty net goal |
| 22:37.36 | Cairenn | I know |
| 22:37.43 | Cairenn | and we had two that went there! |
| 22:37.45 | Fisker | â ⥠â CANADA â ⥠â |
| 22:37.47 | Cairenn | but neither got in |
| 22:38.14 | bleeter | sudden death? |
| 22:38.17 | Zyn | yes, soon |
| 22:38.20 | Cairenn | joking aside, I wonder just how many heart attacks there are going to be across the country before the game ends |
| 22:38.47 | Zyn | and by fate, the tsunami roars over the countryside, wiping out the arena |
| 22:40.01 | Cairenn | fuck |
| 22:40.13 | Cairenn | if it goes through the full OT, it /will/ go to shoot out |
| 22:40.16 | Cairenn | that SUCKS |
| 22:40.18 | Esamynn | aye |
| 22:40.35 | Zyn | meanwhile, /sp/ is boiling |
| 22:40.45 | Fisker | don't be disrespectful to "that" Cairenn :( |
| 22:40.59 | Fisker | equips a shield |
| 22:42.13 | Cairenn | 20 min 4-man OT |
| 22:42.22 | Esamynn | up |
| 22:42.27 | Esamynn | yup* |
| 22:43.15 | krka | nice, almost as exciting as the women curling final then |
| 22:43.42 | Esamynn | ... |
| 22:43.55 | Esamynn | >* HOCKEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! * |
| 22:44.00 | Esamynn | * HOCKEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! * |
| 22:44.04 | Cairenn | ^^ this |
| 22:44.55 | Cairenn | gooooooooooooo Canada! |
| 22:45.15 | Fisker | â ⥠â Denmark â ⥠â |
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| 22:45.44 | Cairenn | go go go |
| 22:46.50 | Cairenn | askldjfksjdf |
| 22:46.57 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 22:47.27 | Zyn | Cairenn , how hard is your butt clenched together atm? |
| 22:47.42 | Cairenn | butt nothing, my chest is like a vice |
| 22:48.17 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
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| 22:49.32 | Fisker | â ⥠â Canada â ⥠â |
| 22:49.32 | Zyn | should have the WHOLE team on the ice at once |
| 22:49.36 | Zyn | would be interesting |
| 22:49.53 | Fisker | why are we cheering for canada anyway? |
| 22:49.58 | Cairenn | go go go go |
| 22:50.04 | Zyn | to spare us from Cairenn's wrath |
| 22:50.14 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 22:50.15 | Cairenn | come on! |
| 22:50.27 | ScytheBlade1 | yes yes canada go! |
| 22:50.33 | ScytheBlade1 | whimpers in fright |
| 22:50.38 | Zyn | in before bullshit goal from US |
| 22:51.41 | Cairenn | sjdfkjsdaklfjaslkdjflkasdf |
| 22:51.42 | Cairenn | come on! |
| 22:51.49 | ScytheBlade1 | I'll know the outcome of this |
| 22:51.59 | ScytheBlade1 | based on Cairenn's connectivity |
| 22:52.07 | ScytheBlade1 | ie, rage plug-pulled |
| 22:52.15 | Zyn | here it comes |
| 22:52.18 | Zyn | or not |
| 22:53.14 | Zyn | LOL |
| 22:53.15 | Cairenn | LOOOOUUUUUUU! |
| 22:53.22 | ScytheBlade1 | ? |
| 22:53.28 | Zyn | almost fucked it up there |
| 22:53.29 | Shirik | LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUuu |
| 22:53.29 | Cairenn | WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 22:53.33 | Zyn | GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL |
| 22:53.45 | Shirik | CAPS LOCK = CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL |
| 22:53.50 | Thunder_Child | wall of text fail |
| 22:53.51 | Cairenn | WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 22:53.53 | alestane | And there you go, Cairenn. |
| 22:53.54 | Cairenn | WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 22:53.54 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+rqf $~a #shiibot] by EDI |
| 22:53.54 | EDI | Channel locked temporarily. Time since last lockdown (in minutes): 22793 minutes |
| 22:53.58 | Shirik | ............ |
| 22:54.02 | Thunder_Child | hah |
| 22:54.02 | zenzelezz | woos Cairenn |
| 22:54.09 | Lopeppeppy | hilarious |
| 22:54.15 | alestane | Gold in overtime thanks to Sidney Crosby. |
| 22:54.22 | Cairenn | YES! |
| 22:54.28 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-rqf $~a] by Shirik |
| 22:54.29 | Dolby | grats Canada |
| 22:54.32 | Dolby | was a good game |
| 22:54.33 | ScytheBlade1 | congrats, hosers! |
| 22:54.52 | Esamynn | ~lart ScytheBlade1 |
| 22:54.52 | purl | throws ScytheBlade1's poor little doggy off a cliff |
| 22:54.52 | Shirik | !reload |
| 22:54.52 | EDI | AI routines & configuration reloaded |
| 22:55.08 | ScytheBlade1 | too easy |
| 22:55.41 | Esamynn | * GOLD!!!!!!! * |
| 22:55.53 | Cairenn | ^^^^^^^^ THIS!!!!!! |
| 22:56.00 | bleeter | MON-AR-CHY! |
| 22:56.11 | Esamynn | * GOLD!!!!!!! * |
| 22:56.38 | alestane | This makes how many you've raked in this time around? |
| 22:56.38 | Shirik | Esamynn when did you become a canadian |
| 22:56.44 | Cairenn | 14 |
| 22:56.55 | bleeter | MON-AR-CHY! |
| 22:56.56 | Cairenn | record for most golds at any olympics ever |
| 22:57.00 | Esamynn | Shirik: ... |
| 22:57.03 | Cairenn | by any country |
| 22:57.12 | Esamynn | Winter Olympics |
| 22:57.14 | Fisker | â ⥠â Canada â ⥠â |
| 22:57.15 | Cairenn | s/any/any one/ |
| 22:57.16 | Fisker | â ⥠â Canada â ⥠â |
| 22:57.31 | Cairenn | WOOOOOOOO! |
| 22:57.35 | alestane | Speaking of the Olympics, the Spirit of Competition didn't come back to the Battlegrounds this time. |
| 22:57.41 | Esamynn | Our father who art in Vancouver, hockey be thy name. Thy will be done, the gold will be won, on ice, as well as thy stands. Give us this day, our hockey sticks, and forgive us our penalties as we forgive those who cross check against us. Lead us not into elimination, but deliver us to victory. In the name of the Canadian hockey team, AMEN â ⥠â GO, CANADA, GO â ⥠â |
| 22:57.47 | Esamynn | alestane: I know, I was disappointed |
| 22:57.50 | Cairenn | Our father who art in Vancouver, hockey be thy name. Thy will be done, the gold will be won, on ice, as well as thy stands. Give us this day, our hockey sticks, and forgive us our penalties as we forgive those who cross check against us. Lead us not into elimination, but deliver us to victory. In the name of the Canadian hockey team, AMEN â ⥠â GO, CANADA, GO â ⥠â |
| 22:57.58 | ScytheBlade1 | what is wrong with you people |
| 22:58.03 | zenzelezz | of course you get many gold medals when you cheat |
| 22:58.12 | alestane | zenzelezz: Careful. |
| 22:58.13 | *** kick/#wowuidev [zenzelezz!~Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn] by Cairenn (zenzelezz) |
| 22:58.14 | Esamynn | Cairenn: may I do the honours |
| 22:58.16 | Esamynn | ? |
| 22:58.17 | Esamynn | please |
| 22:58.51 | Fisker | Our father who art in Vancouver, hockey be thy name. Thy will be done, the gold will be won, on ice, as well as thy stands. Give us this day, our hockey sticks, and forgive us our penalties as we forgive those who cross check against us. Lead us not into elimination, but deliver us to victory. In the name of the Canadian hockey team, AMEN â ⥠âGO, CANADA, GO â ⥠â |
| 22:59.24 | Shirik | EDI hates you guys |
| 22:59.34 | Esamynn | why? |
| 22:59.34 | Fisker | what does your EDI say about my spamlevel? |
| 22:59.39 | Shirik | it's over 9000 |
| 22:59.45 | Esamynn | lol |
| 22:59.55 | Zyn | butts |
| 22:59.57 | Fisker | i like |
| 23:00.00 | Fisker | not butts |
| 23:00.03 | Fisker | but over 9000 |
| 23:00.32 | Zyn | so, Cairenn ... who was that fat beard guy in the opening ceremony |
| 23:00.38 | Zyn | looked like a prime example of a lurker |
| 23:00.38 | *** join/#wowuidev Landrell (~Landrell0@adsl-76-216-120-213.dsl.covlil.sbcglobal.net) |
| 23:01.27 | Thunder_Child | he was an amalgam of canadians |
| 23:02.33 | bleeter | alestane: lol spirit of competition. wasn't that the summer ... games? |
| 23:02.33 | Landrell | Think so... |
| 23:02.33 | alestane | The first one was two years ago, during the summer games. |
| 23:02.33 | alestane | I have the tabard and the dragon on my warrior. |
| 23:02.33 | bleeter | maybe they didn't think to do winter, or they scored a 'grrrr' letter |
| 23:02.33 | Zyn | soooo , will the guys drink booze and smoke on the ice now? |
| 23:02.33 | alestane | They would have needed a different pet model. |
| 23:02.36 | airtonix | Dagmar, when using dbu-monitor, is there a way to determine if i should be using dbus.SystemBus or dbus.SessionBus based on what dbus-monitor prints to the screen ? |
| 23:03.29 | airtonix | ^ or anyone here that has any idea what i'm talking about. |
| 23:04.43 | alestane | The pet was a Chinese Dragon last time, maybe they don't want to design a new one every two years. |
| 23:06.53 | Esamynn | * WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! * |
| 23:06.58 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 23:07.21 | bleeter | buys Canada a drink |
| 23:07.34 | Cairenn | lol, almost broke kiddo's ribs, hugged her so hard! |
| 23:07.51 | Fisker | Our father who art in Vancouver, hockey be thy name. Thy will be done, the gold will be won, on ice, as well as thy stands. Give us this day, our hockey sticks, and forgive us our penalties as we forgive those who cross check against us. Lead us not into elimination, but deliver us to victory. In the name of the Canadian hockey team, AMEN â ⥠âGO, CANADA, GO â ⥠â |
| 23:09.05 | Thunder_Child | feels sorry for Cairenn's daughter |
| 23:09.10 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 23:09.11 | robotusch | D: |
| 23:09.28 | Cairenn | heh, she was trying to do the same in return! |
| 23:09.30 | Cairenn | hehehehe |
| 23:09.33 | robotusch | This is getting a bit out hand, with all the Canadieh'n joygasming |
| 23:09.44 | Thunder_Child | great, the Cairennisms are spreading |
| 23:09.54 | Zyn | meanwhhile, MILF TITS choked in the curling final |
| 23:09.56 | Cairenn | the two of us spinning each other around the room |
| 23:09.56 | Esamynn | robotusch: you got a problem? |
| 23:09.58 | Esamynn | boy? |
| 23:09.58 | Zyn | missed hard |
| 23:10.08 | Fisker | are you milf Zyn? |
| 23:10.15 | Zyn | I got moobs, but no |
| 23:10.29 | robotusch | >:| |
| 23:10.44 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: 0_o |
| 23:11.52 | robotusch | then again, someone DID describe USA v Canada as the Ashes, mixed with a bit of Chappell-Hadlee trophy, and added a healthy dose of sibling rivalry :\ |
| 23:13.30 | alestane | "...we stand on guard for thee." |
| 23:13.45 | robotusch | GOD SAVE THE QUEEN! |
| 23:13.54 | Cairenn | woooooooohoooooooooooo! |
| 23:14.22 | ScytheBlade1 | threatens to put Cairenn on a tilt-a-whirl |
| 23:14.35 | alestane | Indoor fireworks... |
| 23:14.35 | Cairenn | vomits |
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| 23:15.14 | Esamynn | * WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! * |
| 23:15.16 | Esamynn | * WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! * |
| 23:15.18 | Esamynn | * WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! * |
| 23:15.18 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+qq *!*@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Esamynn *!~nnnnchatz@*] by EDI |
| 23:15.18 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+rqf $~a #shiibot] by EDI |
| 23:15.18 | EDI | Channel locked temporarily. Time since last lockdown (in minutes): 22 minutes |
| 23:15.24 | Shadowed | damn canadians |
| 23:15.26 | Esamynn | haha |
| 23:15.28 | Shadowed | stop breaking the bot |
| 23:15.32 | Shadowed | shakes fist at Esamynn |
| 23:15.38 | Cairenn | Esamynn: lol, can imagine the party out there tonight! |
| 23:15.40 | Esamynn | * WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! * |
| 23:15.41 | Shirik | you guys suck so much |
| 23:15.43 | Esamynn | * WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! * |
| 23:15.48 | *** kick/#wowuidev [Esamynn!~outlaw@c-98-207-200-159.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] by Shadowed (OH GOD SPAM!) |
| 23:15.54 | Thunder_Child | i dunno why EDI doesnt just mute them |
| 23:15.56 | Shadowed | oh wait |
| 23:15.57 | Shirik | he did |
| 23:15.57 | *** join/#wowuidev Esamynn (~nnnnchatz@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Esamynn) |
| 23:15.57 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Esamynn] by ChanServ |
| 23:16.01 | Shirik | but Esamynn is +v |
| 23:16.02 | Esamynn | * WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! * |
| 23:16.03 | Thunder_Child | or k/b them |
| 23:16.03 | Esamynn | * WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! * |
| 23:16.08 | Cairenn | Esamynn: heh, stop |
| 23:16.09 | Thunder_Child | so k/b works |
| 23:16.10 | Cairenn | hehehehe |
| 23:16.11 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-v Esamynn] by Shirik |
| 23:16.16 | Shadowed | damn beat me to it |
| 23:16.35 | Shirik | I prefer not to autoban people except in the most severe situations |
| 23:16.40 | Shirik | because of the potential for mistakes |
| 23:16.52 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-rqf $~a] by Shirik |
| 23:17.02 | Thunder_Child | idiots like Esamynn are severe |
| 23:17.02 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-qq *!*@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Esamynn *!~nnnnchatz@*] by Shirik |
| 23:17.10 | Esamynn | ~lart Thunder_Child |
| 23:17.10 | purl | hooks into a hydrant and hoses Thunder_Child down |
| 23:17.18 | Shirik | !reload |
| 23:17.19 | EDI | AI routines & configuration reloaded |
| 23:17.19 | Fisker | hey Thunder_Child |
| 23:17.23 | Thunder_Child | yes, but that doesnt prove me wrong |
| 23:17.23 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 23:25.41 | DWSR | CANADA WINS |
| 23:25.44 | DWSR | WOOO |
| 23:25.50 | DWSR | MOST GOLD MEDALS EVER IN A WINTER OLYMPICS! |
| 23:27.51 | cbreak | there's an achievement for that? |
| 23:28.28 | DWSR | cbreak: Canada earns the achievement [Most Gold Medals in a Winter Olympics]! |
| 23:28.35 | bleeter | http://www.forcesofgeek.com/2010/02/claymation-evil-dead-in-60-seconds.html |
| 23:28.40 | DWSR | cbreak: Canada earns the achievement [Most Gold Medals in a Winter Olympics by a Host Country]! |
| 23:28.51 | DWSR | cbreak: Canada earns the achievement [Most Gold Medals at the Vancouver 2010 Winter Olympics]! |
| 23:29.08 | cbreak | addicts |
| 23:29.38 | Cide | I hear number of medals is proportional to the average snow height in the country |
| 23:29.58 | cbreak | we didn't have much snow this year here in switzerland |
| 23:30.05 | cbreak | so not many medals I guess :( |
| 23:30.06 | WobWork | How did we get three then? |
| 23:30.17 | WobWork | most of our snow is man made =P |
| 23:30.19 | Gnarfoz | lolympics :F |
| 23:30.45 | ScytheBlade1 | threatens to put Cairenn on a tilt-a-whirl again and tabs elsewhere for an hour or two |
| 23:32.02 | DWSR | body checks ScytheBlade1 to the ice. |
| 23:32.45 | DWSR | Cairenn: Party! |
| 23:32.58 | DWSR | hands Cairenn a bottle of champange! |
| 23:34.25 | Esamynn | haha, the firehall is turning on the sirens on the trunks for short spurts =D |
| 23:34.33 | DWSR | Esamynn: Where are you? |
| 23:34.55 | DWSR | I'm watching the CTV feed and you can't actually hear the commentators atm. |
| 23:34.57 | Esamynn | Vancouver |
| 23:35.00 | DWSR | So much cheering in the place. |
| 23:35.09 | DWSR | Esamynn: rofl. You're not going to get sleep tonight. |
| 23:35.11 | Esamynn | suburb of |
| 23:35.16 | DWSR | I'm pretty sure this should be a national holiday. |
| 23:35.31 | Esamynn | DWSR: you're assuming I'm gonna try |
| 23:35.39 | DWSR | Touche. |
| 23:35.41 | *** join/#wowuidev Osagasu (~Creek@67-197-1-37.rh1.dyn.cm.comporium.net) |
| 23:35.55 | DWSR | Absolutely outstanding. |
| 23:36.05 | DWSR | I am *so* glad that I didn't get on the train back to school tonight. |
| 23:36.29 | DWSR | On an awesome side note, I just got a job for the summer! |
| 23:38.13 | Esamynn | Cairenn: did you know, the sun came out during the game =D |
| 23:38.18 | Esamynn | it's beautiful here atm |
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| 23:38.36 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Beladona] by ChanServ |
| 23:42.48 | DWSR | Esamynn: Yeah, they were showing pictures of it during the 3rd intermission. Wasn't a car or person moving. |
| 23:45.12 | DWSR | Crosby should be holding the flag for Canada, not some short tracker. |
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| 23:53.53 | eidolarr | ZorbaTHut: are you around |
| 23:54.02 | ZorbaTHut | yup, what's up? |
| 23:54.11 | eidolarr | word on the street is you once worked at google |
| 23:54.17 | ZorbaTHut | word is true |
| 23:54.25 | eidolarr | can you give me the down low |
| 23:54.26 | DWSR | Yo dawg, word on the wire is [/nsfu2] |
| 23:54.55 | ZorbaTHut | whatcha want to know? it's been a few years, note |
| 23:55.14 | eidolarr | why did you quit? |
| 23:56.07 | ZorbaTHut | a bunch of reasons. I was being managed badly, for one - conflicting reviews from my manager |
| 23:56.29 | ZorbaTHut | I was having some frustration with them cutting out a bunch of the perks that I enjoyed |
| 23:56.31 | ZorbaTHut | mostly, though, I wanted to write video games :P |
| 23:56.43 | eidolarr | how long until they open up a video game division? |
| 23:56.55 | ZorbaTHut | I doubt they will, it doesn't have anything to do with their core business |
| 23:56.59 | ZorbaTHut | not for a long long time at least |
| 23:57.16 | eidolarr | the big things i heard about google were like |
| 23:57.34 | eidolarr | the interview process is long and sucks, and if you get a bad manager you're boned |
| 23:57.42 | eidolarr | and the pay isn't that impressive |
| 23:57.53 | ZorbaTHut | eh, somewhat accurate, somewhat inaccurate |
| 23:57.58 | DWSR | eidolarr: I've always heard that google's a good employer. |
| 23:58.05 | ZorbaTHut | the interview process is definitely long but I found it rather interesting. the questions were fun to work on |
| 23:58.15 | DWSR | eidolarr: But that might have changed now that we've had a recession |
| 23:58.23 | ZorbaTHut | it's reasonably easy to change managers (or, it was when I was there), but yes, I did have trouble finding a good one |
| 23:58.31 | eidolarr | DWSR: i hear that too but there are people who quit |
| 23:58.48 | ZorbaTHut | the pay, from what I hear, is a little lower than industry standard. with me, my stock options more than made up for it, and the perks are still quite good compared to industry standard |
| 23:58.54 | ZorbaTHut | people quit every job |
| 23:59.02 | eidolarr | yeah |
| 23:59.06 | ZorbaTHut | show me a job that nobody's quit, I'll show you a business that's less than a month old. |
| 23:59.13 | ZorbaTHut | or an organized crime division. |
| 23:59.14 | ZorbaTHut | one of the two. |
| 23:59.23 | eidolarr | the other rumor i hear which may be spread by detractors is that they work you awy too hard |
| 23:59.45 | ZorbaTHut | eh, I didn't have any issue with that myself. a lot of people work hard because a lot of people enjoy what they do |
