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| 00:07.07 | *** topic/#wowuidev is http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.3.x ToC: 30300 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | â¥â¥â¥â¥â¥â¥â¥â¥â¥â¥ - Cairenn |
| 00:07.09 | WobWork | The more I use this product, the more I cry =( |
| 00:07.13 | Shirik | ~dict rime |
| 00:07.18 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, thank you for inviting purl back. |
| 00:07.30 | DWSR | ^ |
| 00:07.44 | DWSR | why'd he get removed? |
| 00:08.20 | Thunder_Child | "Netsplit between *.net and *.split. Users quit: purl" |
| 00:08.31 | DWSR | he should get rejoined |
| 00:09.37 | amro | WobWork: which product? |
| 00:10.50 | Shirik | Netsplit between *.net and *.split? |
| 00:10.51 | Shirik | lol. |
| 00:12.14 | DWSR | yeah. |
| 00:12.23 | DWSR | Freenode's netsplit messages are .... vague. |
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| 00:18.43 | WobWork | amro: Alterian =P |
| 00:18.48 | foxlit | http://pastey.net/133370 << madness! |
| 00:20.49 | Kraps | AC2 is $60 /rage |
| 00:21.04 | foxlit | AC2 suicides if you're not connected to the internet :/ |
| 00:21.17 | Kraps | my connection is fine |
| 00:21.36 | Arrowmaster | DWSR: they are the same as the messages youll get on most other networks now |
| 00:24.37 | Jerub | interesting. blizzard is finally allowing cosmetic changes that don't require gear changes. |
| 00:24.40 | Jerub | the overcloaks. |
| 00:24.51 | DWSR | ? |
| 00:25.09 | Adys | DWSR: mmo-champion.com |
| 00:25.19 | Jerub | this is a long and slippery slope. |
| 00:25.20 | Jerub | :) |
| 00:25.26 | DWSR | Adys: link |
| 00:25.33 | Jerub | DWSR: that WAS the link. |
| 00:25.34 | Jerub | first story. |
| 00:25.43 | Kraps | Jerub: damn casuals |
| 00:25.55 | Jerub | Kraps: I still don't understand what people rage about that for. |
| 00:26.07 | Kraps | dont look at me |
| 00:26.19 | Jerub | i'm just about to spend 95 frost badges and breathe a sigh of relief because i'm finally getting rid of my moosehat |
| 00:26.37 | Lopeppeppy | Mooooose! |
| 00:27.02 | Jerub | when people make fun of someone's gear looking funny i pop out of bear form and /yell MOOOOOSE |
| 00:27.17 | Adys | DWSR: mmo-champion.com |
| 00:27.17 | Adys | :P |
| 00:27.23 | Adys | clicking is hard. |
| 00:27.33 | DWSR | It's not a fucking URL unless you add http:// or www. |
| 00:27.39 | Adys | hey |
| 00:27.41 | DWSR | fail Adys. |
| 00:27.41 | Adys | look at me caring |
| 00:27.45 | DWSR | ~fail Adys |
| 00:27.45 | purl | Adys, you Fail! |
| 00:27.48 | DWSR | ~lart Adys |
| 00:27.48 | purl | installs PocketPC on Adys's PDA |
| 00:27.51 | Adys | my irc client makes it into a link just fine |
| 00:27.52 | DWSR | ~whalenuke Adys |
| 00:27.52 | purl | ACTION dons her radiation cloak and tinted glasses while a highly intelligent whale named Ray precipitates critical mass for uncontrolled nuclear fission around Adys with his mind powers. |
| 00:28.11 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: was that really moot that posted that? |
| 00:28.15 | Shirik | no |
| 00:28.18 | Jerub | does anyone here know about video cards? |
| 00:28.20 | Shirik | if it were moot, his tripcode would not be in bold |
| 00:28.28 | Thunder_Child | L2Read Arrowmaster |
| 00:28.37 | Lopeppeppy | Jerub, they make pretty pictures without using your cpu? |
| 00:28.39 | Thunder_Child | Jerub: umm..define know? |
| 00:28.52 | Jerub | uh, I need to know if an ati radeon x300 will run sc2 |
| 00:29.24 | Lopeppeppy | I too have been eying my system, wondering if it would run the beta. Is there a list of hardware requirements out there to consult? |
| 00:29.47 | Jerub | looks |
| 00:30.04 | Arrowmaster | Thunder_Child: read waht? |
| 00:30.21 | Jerub | http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=26242&parentCategoryId&pageNumber=1&categoryId=3633 |
| 00:30.27 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: IRC. Shirik already said it wasnt him |
| 00:30.27 | Jerub | ⢠128 MB NVidia GeForce 6600 GT/ATI Radeon 9800 PRO video card |
| 00:30.44 | Jerub | I don't know what a radeon 9800 pro is compared to an x300 |
| 00:30.47 | Thunder_Child | the specs needed for SC2 is really low |
| 00:30.48 | Jerub | but it's $18 on ebay |
| 00:30.50 | Arrowmaster | didnt know what a tripcode was |
| 00:30.54 | Thunder_Child | regardless of what is posted |
| 00:31.04 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: but he said it wasnt him.... |
| 00:31.24 | Thunder_Child | "<Shirik> That's not actually moot" |
| 00:31.30 | Shirik | If you scroll down to my post you'll see Shirik !LEqzdyQeeI |
| 00:31.36 | Shirik | the part after the ! is the "tripcode" and is never bold |
| 00:32.38 | Jerub | man, i'm going to have to do my own research... |
| 00:32.50 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tripcode |
| 00:34.50 | Lopeppeppy | Um, the r300 seems to be the chip used in a bunch of later cards, including the 9800. If that's an original r300 card from 2002, do not buy? |
| 00:35.29 | Lopeppeppy | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon_R300 |
| 00:35.56 | Fisker | zomg |
| 00:36.01 | Fisker | finally an update to the steam ui |
| 00:38.25 | Jerub | no, X300 |
| 00:38.42 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, peppy can't read, sorry. |
| 00:38.45 | Legorol | Shirik: i read the wiki link you gave on Tripcodes. Brilliant idea :) |
| 00:39.29 | Jerub | oooh, interesting |
| 00:39.50 | Amarande | if it's ATI, do not buy |
| 00:41.27 | Jerub | okay, i'm looking at nvidia now. |
| 00:41.33 | Fisker | http://store.steampowered.com/uiupdate/ |
| 00:41.36 | Jerub | ASUS Nvidia GeFORCE EN 8400GS PCI-e 256mb Video Card |
| 00:41.38 | Fisker | they're using webkit now :o |
| 00:41.47 | Lopeppeppy | Still came out in 2002. :P |
| 00:41.56 | Jerub | is that better than '128 MB NVidia GeForce 6600 GT' |
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| 00:45.02 | WobWork | has an 8800gtx |
| 00:45.11 | WobWork | is also impressed at how long it's been effective |
| 00:45.55 | Jerub | i'll probably need a bigger power supply |
| 00:47.47 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, power |
| 00:48.05 | Jerub | i think i have a 350W ps in there. |
| 00:48.19 | Jerub | oooh, and windows. |
| 00:48.22 | Jerub | I'll need windows. |
| 00:48.26 | Jerub | Where do I procure a windows? |
| 00:49.23 | amro | Jerub: 350w is more than enough if you're going for 8400GS |
| 00:49.26 | Shirik | torrentz |
| 00:49.35 | amro | in fact, let me have 150w. I could use it |
| 00:49.35 | Shirik | or home depot |
| 00:49.42 | Shirik | I hear the windows at home depot are harder to break |
| 00:50.22 | kd3 | whee, f12 on my netbook |
| 00:50.23 | kd3 | <3 |
| 00:50.37 | Shadowed | So I need suggestions |
| 00:50.55 | Shadowed | I need an icon that can be used to indicate an item has no enchant in it, but it can't be the enchanting icon the profession uses |
| 00:51.42 | foxlit | the enchanting icon is crap anyway. |
| 00:51.48 | foxlit | Use a enchanting rod. |
| 00:51.58 | Shadowed | not a bad idea |
| 00:52.49 | foxlit | although they do double as wands sometimes |
| 00:53.02 | foxlit | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=22461 is probably the most unique |
| 00:53.04 | Cairenn | GOAL! |
| 00:53.04 | Shadowed | It's separated so it's clearly the enchanting category |
| 00:53.18 | alestane | Who are you playing tonight? |
| 00:53.58 | foxlit | canada v germany, presumably |
| 00:54.06 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 00:54.11 | Shadowed | is germany winning? |
| 00:54.23 | Shadowed | s/is/are/ |
| 00:54.28 | foxlit | popular opinion is that germany does not stand a chance. |
| 00:54.38 | Shadowed | But but, then the Canadians win :( |
| 00:57.02 | Cairenn | hockey & chicken wings & very little migraine == it's a good night! |
| 00:57.41 | Lopeppeppy | Yayness! |
| 00:57.44 | Shadowed | lua> print(true & true & true == true) |
| 00:57.46 | lua_bot | Shadowed: luabot:1: ')' expected near '&' |
| 00:57.53 | Shadowed | Looks like lua disagrees with you |
| 00:58.50 | Adys | Steam is now using a WebKit based rendering engine for the client and in-game overlay web browsing components (replacing Internet Explorer) |
| 00:58.52 | DWSR | lua> print(true and true and true == true) |
| 00:58.54 | lua_bot | DWSR: true |
| 00:58.57 | Adys | Can I get a hallelujah? |
| 00:59.04 | DWSR | Looks like syntax disagrees with you Shadowed |
| 00:59.15 | DWSR | Adys: HALLELUJAH |
| 00:59.43 | DWSR | It's actually faster. |
| 00:59.53 | Adys | well duh |
| 00:59.54 | Adys | its webkit |
| 01:00.13 | DWSR | Well, it's causing less FPS drain on my game, anyway. |
| 01:00.21 | DWSR | and the UI feels a lot more responsive. |
| 01:00.34 | Adys | its the awesomeness of apple, google and kde packed into one shiny project |
| 01:00.58 | DWSR | except Apple is not awesome. |
| 01:01.00 | DWSR | So we'll remove them |
| 01:01.14 | Adys | they are talented |
| 01:01.40 | Adys | and talent is awesome |
| 01:01.43 | Adys | hence, apple has awesomeness |
| 01:02.26 | DWSR | A->B does not mean that B->C |
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| 01:03.24 | Adys | I didnt say anywhere that apple was awesome |
| 01:03.27 | Adys | I said they have awesomeness |
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| 01:04.43 | amro | it's simple DWSR. some with epic gear is not epic |
| 01:04.49 | amro | as gearscore skillfully demonstrates daily |
| 01:04.54 | Jerub | I think i just caught a scary bug in squid. |
| 01:08.01 | amro | why do you have bugs in your aquarium? |
| 01:08.25 | kd3 | whee, a steam update, 13.37MB |
| 01:08.46 | Adys | btw kd3 |
| 01:08.57 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/c/25650/plagued-scavenger/ |
| 01:09.00 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/c/40160/frozo-the-renowned/ |
| 01:09.19 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/c/?locations__zone__name=Dalaran \o/ |
| 01:09.41 | kd3 | ! |
| 01:10.18 | Arrowmaster | Adys: is this an upcoming steam change or is this live right now? |
| 01:10.29 | Adys | its a beta client from what i understand |
| 01:10.42 | kd3 | the map pings are spawn locations? |
| 01:10.50 | Adys | kd3: yes |
| 01:10.55 | amro | Arrowmaster: FIle->Settings and opt in |
| 01:11.06 | kd3 | tabs to the time-lost protodrake |
| 01:11.12 | Adys | yeah not yet that :P |
| 01:11.23 | Adys | some of it is addon gathered |
| 01:11.28 | Adys | some of it is smarter |
| 01:11.37 | Arrowmaster | "Cannot contact the steam network, please try again later" |
| 01:11.40 | alestane | http://notalwaysright.com/you-drive-me-crazy/4362 how desperate can people get? |
| 01:11.45 | Arrowmaster | but i tried again and now i think its working |
| 01:11.57 | amro | Arrowmaster: it's steam :P |
| 01:13.24 | Adys | http://bannerfarm.ace.advertising.com/CDN/56312/quz_y_160x600_en.gif |
| 01:13.25 | Adys | ugh |
| 01:14.02 | Lopeppeppy | Woot, 6 inches cleared off my car, and another 24 hours to go in this storm! |
| 01:14.09 | amro | US green card lottery scams make me sad |
| 01:14.22 | amro | with just a bit of brains people can find the real lottery site |
| 01:14.38 | Adys | mm.. brains |
| 01:14.49 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: Someone else around here was just posting that someone must be cackling in Salem. All the storms keep sliding south on us. |
| 01:15.44 | alestane | TFLN: 'I don't think anyone has ever said "boy I'm glad I took those shots of everclear" when they wake up' |
| 01:15.56 | amro | this looks incredibly sexy |
| 01:16.06 | Adys | what does? |
| 01:16.15 | Adys | dont say my siste |
| 01:16.16 | Adys | r. |
| 01:16.28 | amro | steam beta |
| 01:16.58 | amro | ran into a glitch |
| 01:17.00 | amro | that took long. |
| 01:17.07 | Arrowmaster | not working in wine |
| 01:17.12 | alestane | You just know there's a story: "I thought we agreed I wasn't a screamer?" |
| 01:17.20 | amro | Arrowmaster: it's not working on windows either. |
| 01:17.31 | Arrowmaster | steam isnt even starting |
| 01:17.42 | Lopeppeppy | Dude, I'll work some voodoo, this is the first one in a month to hit here, so it could hit you too. |
| 01:18.35 | Adys | argh |
| 01:18.41 | Adys | coins of ancestry stack to 100 only |
| 01:19.00 | amro | WOW |
| 01:19.08 | amro | it doesn't render on my secondary monitor |
| 01:19.14 | amro | I have to move it to the primary |
| 01:20.22 | antant | Hi again. Can someone please help me code this: if PlayerDead() then RepopMe(); next if PlayerGhost then RetrieveCorpse() ? i really need this small addon but ive never coded anything. The functiong above wokr, just tested those with WoWlua. |
| 01:22.59 | amro | ken does not approve |
| 01:25.44 | amro | playtime stats are broken |
| 01:26.03 | amro | it thinks I've played SF4 for 15680993 hours the past two weeks, but only 9 hours total |
| 01:27.10 | Amarande | *sigh* wish I was rich enough to just dump money on http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/keyboards-mice/9836/ |
| 01:27.30 | Amarande | although it probably doesn't work on linux anyway :S |
| 01:28.27 | Cairenn | GOAL! |
| 01:29.32 | amro | football? |
| 01:29.39 | Cairenn | pfft, as if |
| 01:29.50 | amro | oh wait, you can't play football up north |
| 01:31.01 | Cairenn | GOAL! |
| 01:31.46 | Fisker | i rage |
| 01:31.48 | amro | ! what is it? |
| 01:34.39 | Thunder_Child | it's Fisker |
| 01:35.23 | amro | fisker scored two goals? |
| 01:36.03 | Shadowed | It's not very good Amarande :p |
| 01:36.41 | Shadowed | I got the 3 button version, and (I assume at least!) it's supposed to just the same as the keyboard but with 3 buttons and it was pretty bad |
| 01:36.51 | Shadowed | drivers were terrible, buttons didn't work that well etc |
| 01:37.27 | Adys | HAHAHAHAHA |
| 01:37.28 | Adys | http://googlepublicpolicy.blogspot.com/2010/02/youtube-on-fox-news-power-player-of.html |
| 01:37.43 | Adys | "This video contains content from FOX News network, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds" |
| 01:39.39 | Cairenn | GOAL! |
| 01:40.53 | Trela | YouTube makes me sadder every day. :( |
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| 01:44.44 | Arrowmaster | not again |
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| 01:45.59 | Thunder_Child | Cairenn: ^^ |
| 01:46.07 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:47.24 | Arrowmaster | so even though i havent been connected for over an hour, ever time i try to connect to aim it says ive been reconnecting too frequently |
| 01:50.07 | Lopeppeppy | You know, someone else recently complained of that error too. |
| 01:51.56 | Arrowmaster | aim and icq |
| 01:52.16 | Arrowmaster | clients disabled my accounts but every time i reenable them it says that and has all day |
| 01:53.01 | Lopeppeppy | He thought it was because he swapped computers too frequently... betcha AOHell is just being schizo again. |
| 01:53.46 | kd3 | huh. weird. me too |
| 01:53.50 | kd3 | fail aol |
| 01:53.52 | amro | speaking of bad IM networks, when is WLM going to fix their spam issues? |
| 01:54.06 | DWSR | amro: i don't have any spam issues... |
| 01:54.16 | Arrowmaster | you mean MSN? |
| 01:54.19 | DWSR | yes |
| 01:54.21 | theorbtwo | Note that AIM an ICQ are really the same system for some time now; both of them failing isn't a indication of a wide-scale problem. |
| 01:54.34 | Arrowmaster | yeah i know they are the same |
| 01:55.19 | amro | DWSR: I do, I get dozens of messages a day, plus contact requests |
| 01:55.32 | DWSR | stop signing up for porn |
| 01:55.46 | Arrowmaster | i get spammed too |
| 01:55.54 | DWSR | I have never had a problem on MSN |
| 01:56.01 | DWSR | And I've been using it about 10 years |
| 01:56.03 | amro | DWSR: more power to you |
| 01:56.13 | amro | but there's a serious spam problem on the netwrok |
| 01:56.33 | tem|afk | so |
| 01:56.40 | tem|afk | marrowgar hard mode is kind of trivial |
| 01:57.35 | theorbtwo | Lately, I've been getting a fair bit of YIM spam (requests). |
| 01:58.07 | amro | same |
| 01:58.32 | Lopeppeppy | Mine seem to come through on ICQ, all in various cyrillic text. |
| 01:59.00 | amro | I get spammed in malaysian on YIM |
| 01:59.46 | WobWork | no laah |
| 02:03.24 | Amarande | yay, another one for the list of ridiculously expensive devices that may be awesome |
| 02:03.25 | Amarande | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227509 |
| 02:05.18 | Amarande | there's also a terabyte SSD, but it's $3500 |
| 02:05.57 | Amarande | and it comes attached to a card rather than being a free drive :S |
| 02:06.08 | Amarande | hasn't seen that sort of architecture since the old days of the HardCard |
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| 02:15.05 | DWSR | Mages with more than 3200 SP get disconnected from the server and are unable to log back in. Multiple accounts confirmed. <-- LULZ. |
| 02:15.10 | DWSR | Blizzard hates mages! |
| 02:15.33 | Kraps | DWSR: yeah i saw that |
| 02:16.06 | Kraps | i was like "idk, weird shit happens on the ptr" |
| 02:16.29 | DWSR | I am amazed at how many of these bugs are just regressions. |
| 02:17.11 | DWSR | lulz at Icy Talons stacking. |
| 02:17.17 | DWSR | 200% MELEE HASTE RAWR! |
| 02:18.10 | Gagorian | They also broke Lightwell, nothing happens when it's clicked |
| 02:18.31 | DWSR | Who uses that ability? |
| 02:18.44 | WobWork | hoho lolwell |
| 02:18.46 | Gagorian | Nobody |
| 02:19.00 | WobWork | the champions in ToC5 do! |
| 02:19.01 | Gagorian | But they didn't even have a patch note for any change.. so I wonder how they managed to break it |
| 02:19.28 | WobWork | my current favourite bug is the c'thun's belly sp bug |
| 02:19.52 | DWSR | My favourite is currently the "mages with more than 3200 sp" bug. |
| 02:19.55 | DWSR | That's pretty lulzy. |
| 02:20.10 | kd3 | that's uh... wow? |
| 02:20.25 | Amarande | hmm, is something done with 1/10 precision and using a signed 16? |
| 02:21.09 | ZorbaTHut | amarande, it'd seem damn weird, but possible |
| 02:21.29 | ZorbaTHut | the only thing I can think of is that it's an anti-cheat test that's gotten too restrictive |
| 02:25.11 | Adys | I thought the same ZorbaTHut |
| 02:25.44 | Adys | what does it say when you reconnect? |
| 02:26.00 | DWSR | Adys: It doesn't. You're unable to log back in |
| 02:26.23 | Adys | yes, what error does it display |
| 02:26.36 | DWSR | No idea. |
| 02:26.39 | ZorbaTHut | is this a new issue on the PTR with characters and gearsets that work fine on live servers, or is it that the talents/gearsets have changed and nobody knows if it would break on live servers 'cause mages can't currently get that much? |
| 02:26.42 | DWSR | Just reading a bug report post. |
| 02:26.51 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: I would imagine the former. |
| 02:26.58 | ZorbaTHut | if it's the former, then, wtf |
| 02:27.02 | Adys | ZorbaTHut: if anything, with buffs a mage can prolly attain 4000-4500 spellpower |
| 02:27.14 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, in that case, major wtf :) |
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| 02:28.20 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: 3200 sp isn't that much, especially fully raid buffed. |
| 02:28.27 | DWSR | Unbuffed I have that much on my warlock |
| 02:31.26 | amro | what do you mean unable to login? unable to auth or unable to enter world? |
| 02:33.25 | DWSR | No idea. |
| 02:33.29 | DWSR | I would assume the latter. |
| 02:35.12 | A-KO | okay |
| 02:35.27 | A-KO | is it wrong for me to get on a shaman's case for flasking pure mojo over frost wyrm? |
| 02:35.33 | A-KO | or am I wrong to think that no healer should really have mana problems |
| 02:35.49 | DWSR | Nothing wrong with flasking pure mojo if he needs it. |
| 02:35.58 | DWSR | key words: if he needs it. |
| 02:36.07 | DWSR | If he's not running out of mana, then he should be using Frost Wyrm. |
| 02:36.09 | A-KO | but......since when does any healer need regen? |
| 02:36.11 | Shirik | Cairenn, +b digimouse*!*@* probably would have been easier, but meh :) |
| 02:36.52 | DWSR | A-KO: I have no idea. |
| 02:37.17 | DWSR | A-KO: Since you've given me no context other than he's a shaman, I have no idea what the situation is. If you're talking about something like an ICC-level shaman, then he shouldn't have issues, no. |
| 02:37.42 | DWSR | If he's just gearing up through heroics and just starting on his first 10 man, then yeah. |
| 02:37.47 | DWSR | He might still need it. |
| 02:38.05 | DWSR | At least he's using a role appropriate flask and not Stoneblood or something. |
| 02:38.20 | amro | what? I use stoneblood on my shammy. |
| 02:38.44 | DWSR | .. |
| 02:39.47 | ZorbaTHut | a-ko, my ilvl210 druid healer still has mana issues when he ends up pulling 2/3 of the healing and nobody can break 3k DPS |
| 02:39.51 | ZorbaTHut | in other words, "whenever he heals" |
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| 03:06.44 | Jerub | i've got my mage to nearly level 75 |
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| 03:11.59 | Shirik | king of the hill is so strange |
| 03:12.05 | Shirik | "This door must have some kind of anti-opening device" |
| 03:12.15 | DWSR | It's because it's for idiots. |
| 03:12.40 | Shadowed | Is that show still running? |
| 03:13.19 | Shirik | on adult swim |
| 03:15.04 | WobWork | resto shammies tend to go for mp5 |
| 03:15.11 | WobWork | before they get the gear to start going for haste |
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| 03:23.06 | Adys | http://www.notfunnycartoons.com/toondb/100223.html |
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| 03:47.36 | awweaver | hey people, go make me a sammich |
| 03:49.56 | A-KO | wow |
| 03:49.59 | A-KO | I put out some serious healing numbers |
| 03:52.15 | Slackwise | Hmm. ADDON_LOADED should fire every ReloadUI(), correct...? |
| 03:52.59 | Shadowed | yes |
| 03:53.09 | Slackwise | :/ |
| 03:53.20 | awweaver | where's my sammich? |
| 03:53.25 | awweaver | ... |
| 03:53.28 | awweaver | jk jk... |
| 03:54.03 | WobWork | awweaver: I ate it. |
| 03:54.07 | WobWork | It was nummy |
| 03:54.18 | WobWork | thanks for the sammich btw |
| 03:54.20 | awweaver | HOW DARE U, U KILLED KENNY |
| 03:54.24 | DWSR | ~botsnack |
| 03:54.24 | purl | DWSR: thanks |
| 03:54.25 | kd3 | oh, boo. can't order the ia-32/64 architectures manuals in print any more |
| 03:54.27 | kd3 | sighs |
| 03:54.31 | WobWork | You name your sammiches Kenny? |
| 03:54.39 | WobWork | you is crazyboy |
| 03:54.45 | awweaver | WobWork, Yes |
| 03:55.12 | awweaver | actually wait that one was George |
| 03:58.52 | Shirik | what |
| 03:58.54 | Shirik | really kd3? |
| 03:59.11 | awweaver | Shirik, did u eat my sammich? |
| 03:59.15 | Shirik | uh |
| 03:59.22 | Shirik | I don't think so |
| 03:59.26 | awweaver | Ok... |
| 03:59.29 | kd3 | http://www.intel.com/products/processor/manuals/ |
| 03:59.39 | awweaver | sry im just in a mood tonight |
| 03:59.39 | kd3 | can still get them on cd, but that's no fun |
| 04:00.05 | awweaver | LOL, bash.org |
| 04:00.10 | awweaver | IRC is just multiplayer notepad. |
| 04:00.23 | DWSR | lol, welcome to last century. |
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| 04:00.59 | awweaver | Wut? |
| 04:01.37 | awweaver | <[TN]FBMachine> i got kicked out of barnes and noble once for moving all the bibles into the fiction section |
| 04:02.30 | DWSR | awweaver: The bible's a great story, but it's just that. A story. |
| 04:02.33 | DWSR | It's not real. |
| 04:02.37 | DWSR | (according to the quotee). |
| 04:03.06 | awweaver | DWSR, yes i know, i found that quote hiarious as shit |
| 04:03.18 | DWSR | Well you asked wut right before it. |
| 04:03.44 | DWSR | Bash.org's pretty old. |
| 04:03.50 | DWSR | been around at least as long as I've been on IRC. |
| 04:03.54 | awweaver | its still funny |
| 04:06.29 | awweaver | LOLOLOL |
| 04:06.30 | awweaver | http://bash.org/?334762 |
| 04:10.24 | DWSR | hehe |
| 04:10.33 | DWSR | Laggy Wintergrasps are awesome for UA locks |
| 04:10.43 | DWSR | It's just run around spamming corruption everywhere. |
| 04:10.51 | ZorbaTHut | argh fuck apple. why do I have to fax them stuff just to be allowed to write code for the iphone |
| 04:11.36 | Hjalte | ZorbaTHut: Android is ---> over there |
| 04:11.49 | ZorbaTHut | yeah I'm going to start with that as soon as I get my free android |
| 04:11.53 | ZorbaTHut | but I want to be developing for both platforms |
| 04:12.08 | awweaver | I thought it was that that way >^ |
| 04:12.16 | Amarande | zorba: because apple are lame |
| 04:12.44 | Amarande | same reason why they harden ipods against non-itunes usage :S |
| 04:12.53 | Amarande | even though being less fascist about that would probably sell more ipods |
| 04:13.18 | Amarande | but they're more concerned with restricting shit so it "just works" for the nontechnical user :P |
| 04:13.23 | Amarande | Fuck the nontechnical user! |
| 04:14.21 | awweaver | http://bash.org/?758379 |
| 04:14.24 | awweaver | LOL |
| 04:15.43 | Jerub | ahh bash.org |
| 04:15.57 | Jerub | that was funny when i still broke out in pimples when i thought of girls. |
| 04:16.09 | Adys | girls? where? |
| 04:16.10 | Adys | who what? |
| 04:16.17 | awweaver | Jerub, its still funny... |
| 04:16.20 | Thunder_Child | calm down Adys |
| 04:16.23 | Thunder_Child | calm down |
| 04:16.32 | awweaver | and Wheres my sammich? |
| 04:16.34 | Adys | awweaver: this one not really |
| 04:16.54 | awweaver | Adys, i found it hilarious |
| 04:17.35 | Jerub | a friend of mine would collect irc quotes from a social channel we were in. |
| 04:17.47 | awweaver | ok? |
| 04:17.53 | Jerub | he submitted them all to bash.org and 2 were accepted. |
| 04:18.06 | awweaver | they have high standards |
| 04:18.09 | Jerub | that was 12ish years ago. |
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| 04:21.45 | Adys | ~wowiquotes |
| 04:21.46 | purl | http://www.teomyr.eu/wowuidev/irc-quotes |
| 04:21.46 | Amarande | c'mon, this package has to have left baldwin park already :P |
| 04:22.00 | Amarande | I want my GTS 250 nao |
| 04:22.36 | Thunder_Child | sounds like you ordered from newegg |
| 04:23.28 | awweaver | Amarande, Baldwin, Michigan? |
| 04:23.44 | Thunder_Child | CA i assume |
| 04:24.17 | awweaver | Canadia? |
| 04:24.23 | WobWork | Alec? |
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| 04:24.27 | Thunder_Child | cali |
| 04:24.30 | Thunder_Child | no canada |
| 04:24.33 | Thunder_Child | not* |
| 04:24.46 | Amarande | california :P |
| 04:24.46 | WobWork | Sadly, Alec is the only Baldwin brother I can recall |
| 04:24.50 | Amarande | where newegg sends stuff from |
| 04:25.05 | Amarande | figures it had to be the CA warehouse and not the NJ one |
| 04:25.24 | Thrae | Newegg has a main warehouse in NJ, which is nice since I live in MD. |
| 04:25.35 | Thrae | For their free shipping I usually get things in 1-2 days. |
| 04:25.46 | Thunder_Child | same |
| 04:25.50 | Thunder_Child | but from the one in cali |
| 04:26.02 | WobWork | even though Adam Baldwin is the cool Baldwin brother |
| 04:26.02 | Thrae | Thunder_Child: West Coast? |
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| 04:26.28 | Thunder_Child | Thrae: si |
| 04:26.32 | Amarande | Unless you really *want* something quickly. Then it will be from the whse on the other side of the country. |
| 04:27.25 | Thrae | Thunder_Child: You scared me for a second. I'm not used to reading Spanish. I was like, "WTF did I miss a state that abbreviates as SI?! Am I that dumb?!" |
| 04:27.58 | Thunder_Child | Thrae: i aim to mess with peoples head :p |
| 04:28.00 | Amarande | SI, it's that state that invented SI units of course |
| 04:28.17 | Thunder_Child | this one was unintentional however |
| 04:28.21 | WobWork | (The cool Baldwin brother who actually isn't a Baldwin brother, that is...) |
| 04:29.03 | Adys | The game cannot afford to let your client keep a mirror of your backpack storage, as this would open the door to very destructive exploits, so every time you open your bag, your client must contact the server |
| 04:29.06 | Adys | You know |
| 04:29.11 | Adys | every single time I read this |
| 04:29.15 | Adys | ugh |
| 04:29.45 | Adys | The greater your view distance the more the server has to tell you about. Set the chat to Interactive will likely have the same effect. This could be a network config issue and your issue may be related to this problem. |
| 04:29.46 | Adys | :( |
| 04:30.14 | Amarande | Adys: also, what form of "very destructive exploits" are they thinking of? |
| 04:30.22 | kd3 | duping |
| 04:30.35 | Adys | exploits under the form of "I'm an idiot, look at me, I'm an idiot, WILL YOU LOOK AT ME" |
| 04:30.43 | Amarande | kd3: but surely it would check the real storage on the server whenever you actually try to *use* something |
| 04:30.52 | kd3 | >.> |
| 04:30.53 | Adys | of course it wouldnt |
| 04:31.04 | Adys | whoever wrote that is a fucking asshat |
| 04:31.13 | Amarande | just like you can have an action button for something you have 0 of, it just won't work |
| 04:31.13 | awweaver | what no airplane joke? |
| 04:31.37 | Amarande | yeah, it's probably more "we don't want to go to the effort to implement this, so there" |
| 04:31.46 | Adys | .. what? |
| 04:31.50 | Adys | theres no effort |
| 04:32.07 | awweaver | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g2HWmCXX3M |
| 04:32.12 | awweaver | This will cheer u up |
| 04:32.15 | Adys | on login you receive the contents of your bags and bank and keep that mirror for the rest of your session |
| 04:32.38 | Amarande | or perhaps "our security admins do not actually know how the game plays" |
| 04:32.44 | awweaver | and when u log out it send the new info back to the server |
| 04:32.46 | Adys | no |
| 04:33.03 | Adys | what kind of crack are you guys fucking smoking? |
| 04:33.10 | awweaver | ? |
| 04:33.31 | WobWork | Adys is quoting verbatim |
| 04:33.46 | WobWork | (Or has MPD... I dunno which) |
| 04:33.53 | awweaver | NPD? |
| 04:33.58 | Adys | I do but that's another issue |
| 04:34.02 | Iriel | I appear to have missed the start of this conversation |
| 04:34.06 | Amarande | awweaver, no, having you send the new info back to the server when you log out would be fail |
| 04:34.14 | Amarande | *that* would indeed allow for duping like hell |
| 04:34.16 | Adys | I was quoting some idiot from wowhead forums |
| 04:34.20 | Amarande | everyone would have fracking val'anyr etc. then |
| 04:34.23 | WobWork | Adys: you missed the quotes =P |
| 04:34.35 | Adys | I thought it was obvious |
| 04:34.36 | WobWork | Adys: thus everyone was thinking that was your opinion =) |
| 04:34.46 | WobWork | well, it was relatively obvious to me |
| 04:34.48 | kd3 | whoops. someone sent uuencoded spam but didn't send the headers /saying/ it's been uuencoded |
| 04:35.11 | Amarande | sure it wasn't base64 encoded then? |
| 04:35.26 | WobWork | rot26'd? |
| 04:36.34 | awweaver | meow |
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| 04:46.54 | awweaver | hey guys lets play pong... |
| 04:47.05 | awweaver | | . |
| 04:48.25 | Thunder_Child | let's not and say we did |
| 04:48.35 | awweaver | :( |
| 04:52.54 | Shirik | | . |
| 04:52.55 | Shirik | I lose |
| 04:53.07 | awweaver | .... |
| 04:53.25 | awweaver | \. |
| 04:53.36 | Shirik | wat |
| 04:53.39 | Shirik | no 3 dimensional pong |
| 04:53.43 | awweaver | LOL |
| 04:53.50 | awweaver | | ' |
| 04:53.56 | Shirik | man, pong would be so strange if it were only in one dimension |
| 04:54.17 | awweaver | wait...its not? |
| 04:54.23 | Shirik | er.... no? |
| 04:54.29 | awweaver | ... |
| 04:54.38 | Shirik | it's definitely 2 dimensional |
| 04:54.46 | awweaver | u sure? |
| 04:54.51 | Shirik | in fact, there is very little that is one dimensional |
| 04:54.59 | Shirik | because one dimension serves very little purpose |
| 04:55.09 | awweaver | and pong in one dimension is just this | . | |
| 04:55.18 | Shirik | yup |
| 04:55.30 | Thunder_Child | wouldnt it be | ? |
| 04:55.34 | Shirik | it would be less challenging than tic tac toe |
| 04:55.38 | Thunder_Child | or rather . |
| 04:55.39 | Shirik | no it would be more like _ . _ |
| 04:55.44 | awweaver | 0.o just thougght of something better lazer pong |
| 04:55.53 | Shirik | lazer pong? |
| 04:55.53 | awweaver | | - | |
| 04:56.09 | Thunder_Child | ummm..light speed weapons makes for hard games |
| 04:56.18 | Shirik | | ¦- |
| 04:56.28 | awweaver | yep |
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| 04:56.41 | awweaver | 0.o |
| 04:56.59 | Shirik | I've never had a practical purpose for that symbol before |
| 04:57.02 | Shirik | I'm glad to see it has some use |
| 04:58.18 | awweaver | wuh? |
| 04:59.12 | awweaver | OK 4 dimensional pong go! |
| 04:59.46 | Shirik | hits the ball back to 23:58:00 23 Feb 2010 EST, before you knew you were playing |
| 04:59.48 | Shirik | you miss, I win |
| 05:00.04 | awweaver | ? |
| 05:00.14 | Shirik | I hit it backwards in the 4th dimension |
| 05:00.16 | Thunder_Child | 4th dimension includes time |
| 05:00.25 | Thunder_Child | time/space |
| 05:00.27 | awweaver | and its 9:00 here so... |
| 05:00.35 | Shirik | That's why I qualified it with "EST" |
| 05:00.51 | Shirik | sorry, you lose! |
| 05:01.34 | awweaver | .... |
| 05:02.11 | awweaver | meow |
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| 05:07.30 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/43308/honor-points/ |
| 05:07.34 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/43308/honor-points/ |
| 05:07.36 | Adys | er |
| 05:07.40 | Adys | [sql] (1207.90ms) 3228 queries with 800 duplicates |
| 05:08.20 | Adys | i change 1 line to down it to 1821 queries, another two lines to down it to 25 queries =\ |
| 05:09.48 | ZorbaTHut | I like how "orange" is a category |
| 05:11.23 | awweaver | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8RNmHkDDxE&feature=PlayList&p=E54BB4178D3A88A8&index=0&playnext=1 Warning u may piss yourself... |
| 05:11.28 | Jerub | Adys: sounds likea million websites. |
| 05:11.41 | Adys | ZorbaTHut: Gems->Orange |
| 05:11.55 | Adys | Jerub: django's orm is very awkward |
| 05:11.59 | Adys | i blame them and their efficient caching |
| 05:12.16 | Jerub | i have a simliar problem with sqlobject. |
| 05:12.19 | ZorbaTHut | adys, bug report, trying to sort by "category" doesn't do anything expected |
| 05:12.19 | Adys | I have to do some really deep analysis to even notice those |
| 05:12.46 | Adys | ZorbaTHut: indeed, hm |
| 05:13.23 | Adys | oh i know |
| 05:13.31 | Adys | it attempts to sort by original category rather than subcategory |
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| 05:15.49 | Jerub | i found the solution was sometimes to just create a view in the database with a complicated sql query behind it. |
| 05:15.57 | Jerub | that way i had an efficient way of accessing the data |
| 05:16.00 | Jerub | instead of thousands of queries |
| 05:17.22 | Adys | ZorbaTHut: fixed, will push tomorrow got some other sql changes I dont wanna push yet |
| 05:17.24 | Adys | thanks |
| 05:17.28 | ZorbaTHut | np |
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| 05:29.28 | Thrae | Anyone notice the Hitachi DeskStar HD32000 IDK/7K 2TB is down to 154.99 USD with a $20 mail-in rebate (Visa PrePaid) for up to 5 items? Good for us non-bulk purchasers. |
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| 05:31.45 | Jerub | man, harddrives. |
| 05:32.08 | ZorbaTHut | waitin' for affordable SSDs |
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| 05:44.03 | Shirik | ok, I don't get it |
| 05:44.10 | Shirik | is anyone a geologist here? |
| 05:44.16 | Shirik | geographer? Whatever the term is |
| 05:44.21 | Shirik | what exactly IS a "continent" |
| 05:45.00 | Shirik | like, who decided that north america and south america are two continents? Who decided europe and asia are somehow disconnected? What exactly makes the islands north of Australia part of a continent? |
| 05:45.08 | Shirik | where the hell is Hawaii? |
| 05:45.31 | Shirik | I honesty think what we've decided upon is merely a convenience with very little logical meaning |
| 05:47.07 | Shadowed | it's that way Shirik |
| 05:47.12 | Shadowed | points |
| 05:47.27 | Shirik | how is hawaii part of a continent |
| 05:47.39 | Shirik | I think a "continent" has got to be one of the most meaningless geographical concepts we have |
| 05:47.44 | Shirik | and yet, one of the most frequently referenced |
| 05:49.18 | Iriel | The first paragraph of the wiki page for Continent is pretty useful |
| 05:49.25 | Jerub | Shirik: i know a geologist, i can actually pass that question on... |
| 05:49.29 | Iriel | "They are generally identified by convention, rather than any strict criteria" |
| 05:49.40 | Shirik | ... |
| 05:49.44 | Jerub | Shirik: arne't continents basically tectonic plates tho? |
| 05:50.00 | Jerub | i mean, the landmasses are just the bits of the continent sticking out of the water. |
| 05:50.00 | Shirik | then why do they exist at all... |
| 05:50.21 | ZorbaTHut | shirik, same reason pluto used to be a planet |
| 05:50.28 | Shirik | because we said so? |
| 05:50.43 | ZorbaTHut | because humans are really good at categorizing stuff, even when we haven't figured out what the categories are yet. |
| 05:50.59 | ZorbaTHut | and sometimes it turns out our instincts are wrong. |
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| 05:51.05 | Shirik | I'm going to be like that scientist that said pluto is no longer a planet |
| 05:51.09 | Shirik | "Europe is no longer a continent" |
| 05:51.15 | Shirik | what do I have to do to get the authority to say that? |
| 05:51.44 | Shirik | I mean, I'm just spitting out gibberish right now, really |
| 05:51.49 | Shirik | but what it comes down to is this |
| 05:52.08 | Shirik | Perhaps I'm biased, but it really seems that the sciences that we know the least about are the ones that we have been studying the longest |
| 05:52.32 | Jerub | Shirik: you're right, we know hardly anything at all about sex. |
| 05:52.37 | ZorbaTHut | alternatively, the sciences we're still studying are the ones that turned out to be complicated |
| 05:52.39 | Shirik | heh |
| 05:52.51 | Shirik | ZorbaTHut, touche |
| 05:54.33 | ZorbaTHut | although I can't think of any major science that we've actually decided we're done with. I suspect it's more that people can always come up with new things we didn't know yet |
| 06:02.05 | Kraps | the hell is going on in general discussion? |
| 06:03.13 | Kraps | thread topics: French are much better then Americans. The Holocaust is Jewish propaganda. CANADIAN ARMY = FAIL, LOL CANUCKS SUCK, Canada hate |
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| 06:21.04 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: i think we decided we're done with alchemy, but i think that maybe just turned into nuclear physics. |
| 06:21.47 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/40417:3721:3448:3490/?items=40416,40415,39494&durability=15 |
| 06:21.56 | Adys | added support for equipped items |
| 06:21.59 | Adys | if anyone's interested |
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| 06:47.18 | Shirik | here's a fun question |
| 06:47.36 | Shirik | what is fire |
| 06:47.48 | Shirik | and don't tell me it's rapid oxidization |
| 06:47.50 | Shirik | what IS it |
| 06:48.02 | Shirik | energy? pure energy? |
| 06:48.02 | Thunder_Child | heat exchange |
| 06:48.10 | Shirik | like when I touch a fire, what am I touching? |
| 06:48.22 | Shirik | then again I guess some would say mass and energy are the same thing |
| 06:48.37 | Thunder_Child | you are touching super excited molecules |
| 06:49.06 | Thunder_Child | or rather, they are touching you |
| 06:49.15 | Shirik | so it's really just really really hot oxygen/etc? |
| 06:50.04 | Thunder_Child | a flame is just a visual representation |
| 06:51.28 | Shirik | so a flame isn't really anything itself |
| 06:51.43 | Shirik | so strange how the senses can deceive you |
| 06:51.53 | Thunder_Child | you arent being decived |
| 06:52.02 | Thunder_Child | it is not pretending to be anything it is not |
| 06:52.22 | Jerub | I pretend to be Jerub all the time |
| 06:52.25 | frontendloader | fire hot |
| 06:53.11 | Thunder_Child | thats like saying you act like yourself |
| 06:53.11 | Thunder_Child | it's redundant |
| 06:53.32 | Shirik | http://xkcd.com/703/ |
| 06:56.36 | ZorbaTHut | shirik, an actual flame is an area of space that is at a high enough temperature that it emits visible light via blackbody radiation |
| 06:57.00 | ZorbaTHut | the temperature is raised to that point by an exothermic self-sustaining combustion reaction |
| 06:57.23 | Adys | um |
| 06:57.28 | Adys | arent lexicons of power unused now? |
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| 06:57.45 | ZorbaTHut | adys, yeah |
| 06:57.55 | nevcairiel | they're still there, though |
| 06:58.24 | Adys | and indicated by guards |
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| 07:16.34 | Adys | !api getquest |
| 07:16.34 | lua_bot | Found 44 possible matches for 'getquest'. Please be more specific |
| 07:16.38 | Adys | !api getquesthistory |
| 07:16.38 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'getquesthistory'. |
| 07:16.44 | Adys | !api getquestscompleted |
| 07:16.44 | lua_bot | GetQuestsCompleted: Gets a table containing the quests the player has completed (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetQuestsCompleted) |
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| 07:19.20 | Jerub | i was going to ask tekkub if he was going to integrate with that. |
| 07:19.22 | Jerub | but nevermind |
| 07:19.42 | mikma | wat butt |
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| 07:30.59 | Jerub | hm, i should upgrade AGT so it has a usable UI |
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| 07:33.29 | awweaver | So this one time, the instance server went down |
| 07:36.45 | zenzio | "The affected government minister said that the website was accessed 3,727 times, and that this is 'akin to 3,727 attempts to pick the lock of a secure office and take highly confidential documents.' The matter has been referred to the police, who are now investigating. But how did the paper 'hack' the website? They entered the unannounced URL. Security by obscurity at its finest." |
| 07:44.29 | Esamynn | I have just one thing to say |
| 07:44.32 | Esamynn | Wednesday's CAD wins, plain and simple |
| 07:44.35 | Esamynn | http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20100224 |
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| 08:09.45 | WobWork | hm |
| 08:09.53 | WobWork | I don't know if I like the direction the art is going in |
| 08:09.57 | WobWork | less cartoony |
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| 08:11.31 | Esamynn | ~lart WobWork |
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| 09:42.19 | Cide | hey Adys |
| 09:42.19 | Cide | ping |
| 09:42.24 | Adys | pong Cide |
| 09:42.37 | Cide | how generalized is your whole revision thing? |
| 09:42.45 | Adys | what do you mean? |
| 09:43.01 | Cide | is it specific to databases or is it generalized enough to use for other things? |
| 09:43.12 | Adys | revision thing = ? |
| 09:43.18 | Adys | the structures changed_xxxx? |
| 09:43.21 | Cide | yep |
| 09:43.42 | Adys | um |
| 09:43.49 | Adys | it looks for changed_\d+ |
| 09:44.01 | Cide | can you paste an example? |
| 09:44.02 | Adys | it needs to be a continuous number |
| 09:44.08 | Cide | I'm trying to design something similar |
| 09:44.22 | Adys | example of what exactly? the code or a structure? |
| 09:44.59 | Cide | a structure |
| 09:45.03 | Cide | just to see how you use it |
| 09:45.16 | Adys | http://dpaste.com/164051/ |
| 09:45.43 | Adys | it's extremely abstract; the only thing that's still not abstracted out is the foreignkey stuff |
| 09:46.13 | Cide | thanks, that looks great |
| 09:46.17 | Adys | other than that, basically what I do is initialize a specific structure for build #1234 |
| 09:46.24 | Adys | and iterate over it while Im parsing |
| 09:46.38 | Adys | you want the code? |
| 09:46.42 | Cide | sure |
| 09:46.50 | Cide | not sure if it will be useful or not yet but it might be |
| 09:47.08 | frontendloader | you know I bet you could design a test to determine what major language a person first mastered by analyzing how they solve/write a program |
| 09:47.18 | Cide | how so? |
| 09:47.35 | frontendloader | variable naming schemes, paradigms |
| 09:47.49 | Adys | Cide: http://db.mmo-champion.com/adys/structures.tar.gz |
| 09:47.57 | ZorbaTHut | I doubt it - you might be able to tell what major language they were using a year or two ago |
| 09:48.00 | frontendloader | I know at least one .NET dev who makes dictionaries/lookups at every point possible |
| 09:48.07 | Cide | I don't think anyone could figure out I first mastered swedish by my code |
| 09:48.23 | Cide | but it's an interesting idea |
| 09:48.24 | zenzio | "major language"? Programming language? |
| 09:48.25 | ZorbaTHut | but if they're a good coder, no |
| 09:48.29 | Adys | Cide: you'll need to get rid of two pywow imports for custom fields |
| 09:48.31 | Cide | probably applicable to some |
| 09:48.36 | ZorbaTHut | you're not going to be able to tell that I learned BASIC twenty years ago by my current code style, for example :P |
| 09:48.50 | frontendloader | ok maybe not first language |
| 09:48.57 | frontendloader | but their preferred language |
| 09:49.00 | Adys | Cide: and a log import too |
| 09:49.04 | nevcairiel | alot of people started with some silly language like basic or pascal anyway |
| 09:49.16 | frontendloader | qbasic here |
| 09:49.37 | frontendloader | don't remember a lick of it any more |
| 09:49.38 | Cide | I thought you were talking social languages at first |
| 09:49.44 | Cide | programming language is a bit more feasible |
| 09:49.51 | frontendloader | yeah, sorry there |
| 09:49.52 | Cide | Adys: thanks |
| 09:51.40 | Adys | Cide: suggestions welcome if you want to use them |
| 09:52.14 | Adys | Cide: I'm also looking for a way to completely customize some methods |
| 09:52.29 | Adys | eg. Skeleton.update_locales() |
| 09:52.46 | amro | frontendloader: only if they're not comfortable in their current language |
| 09:53.01 | amro | my C++ is totally different from my Lua |
| 09:53.04 | amro | =) |
| 09:53.22 | nevcairiel | If your C++ would be like your Lua, it would be very bad C++, indeed |
| 09:54.07 | amro | and vice versa, though to a lesser extent |
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| 10:06.09 | frontendloader | you can probably glean something off of how they do their indentation/code blocks |
| 10:06.22 | frontendloader | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indent_style#K.26R_style |
| 10:06.37 | olafski | 4 epic gems from the transmute.. did they up the chance of that or have I been getting lucky lately |
| 10:07.05 | Cide | fu |
| 10:07.14 | Cide | I went 0/15 transmutes |
| 10:08.44 | olafski | I don't actually keep count.. since I transmute twice a day and only remember the "good" ones it might not be changed at all |
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| 10:19.55 | robotusch | Got 5 majestic zircons once :< |
| 10:22.50 | sylvanaar_atwork | anyone know any mp3 identifier better than: http://musicbrainz.org/doc/MusicBrainz_Picard |
| 10:24.12 | Arrowmaster | doubt there is one |
| 10:29.45 | Elkano | winamp has one build in I think, no idea what it uses as backend though |
| 10:30.01 | sylvanaar_atwork | i use a combo of windows media player and picard |
| 10:32.44 | Elkano | there are still people that use wmp? |
| 10:33.45 | sylvanaar_atwork | i use it to organize my mp3s and download cover art |
| 10:34.03 | sylvanaar_atwork | otherwise i use itunes |
| 10:34.35 | sylvanaar_atwork | which completely fails at that task - for obvious reasons |
| 10:34.52 | Arrowmaster | not obvious enough |
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| 10:37.30 | Arrowmaster | and even though musicbrainz isnt that great for obscure music its got to be better than anything corp run which like likely only include major label stuff |
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| 10:54.01 | Corrodias | uses foobar and media player classic for everything. is he a dinosaur? |
| 10:54.45 | Corrodias | classifies himself musical minimalist. |
| 11:04.25 | Esamynn | Corrodias: do you use these because you think they're the best tools, or because you can't be bothered to try anything else? |
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| 11:09.42 | Corrodias | because i don't like the limitations of winamp and WMP where it counts, and i don't like itunes in general due to resource bloat and all the apple in it |
| 11:10.00 | Corrodias | beyond those, i haven't bothered to try any others |
| 11:10.12 | nevcairiel | I use MPC-HC because it just does all i want |
| 11:10.19 | Corrodias | well, except musicmatch jukebox, sonique, and a host of other miscellaneous crap many years ago |
| 11:10.21 | nevcairiel | and foobar because it is so simple |
| 11:10.57 | Corrodias | foobar lets me build playlists and search them. i don't know how winamp managed to fail so hard in that regard. |
| 11:11.08 | Corrodias | and i can sort them how i want |
| 11:13.55 | Corrodias | do you know anything about using winamp visualization plugins in foobar? doesn't look promising. although i don't care enough to stop using it. |
| 11:14.10 | nevcairiel | i want to listen to music |
| 11:14.14 | nevcairiel | who cares about vis plugins |
| 11:14.24 | Cide | they're pretty |
| 11:14.25 | Cide | ! |
| 11:14.33 | Corrodias | one interests me, g-force. it can be quite mesmerizing. |
| 11:14.54 | Corrodias | on the rare occasion i want to get lost in listening to a few tracks, it's enjoyable. |
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| 11:21.25 | olafski | oh, seems like THQ isn't trying to take down WoW with their 40k mmo :P |
| 11:21.41 | nevcairiel | good luck with that |
| 11:23.06 | olafski | :) |
| 11:23.11 | olafski | who would have guessed |
| 11:23.16 | olafski | given the smashing success of WAR |
| 11:24.07 | Grum | success? ;D |
| 11:26.07 | olafski | yeah not really |
| 11:26.14 | olafski | dunno why they're even mentioning competing with wow |
| 11:26.36 | olafski | "World of Warcraft is a great game, but as you know in entertainment, there's always the juggernaut and that means there's opportunities out there for the right MMO, said Farrell. " What we love about the Warhammer 40K MMO is that it's different in that it's a sci-fi, futuristic-based world. We're not competing directly in the orcs and elves fantasy environment that World of Warcraft is in. We can differentiate ourselves." |
| 11:26.52 | Grum | afaik everything bleeds to death which isnt touched by Blizzard O.o |
| 11:27.23 | Grum | olafski: what site are you getting those gems from? |
| 11:27.27 | olafski | this was on ign |
| 11:27.32 | olafski | http://pc.ign.com/articles/107/1071607p1.html |
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| 11:35.01 | Corrodias | the g-force dev(s) have gotten something of a big head, though |
| 11:35.23 | Corrodias | i think it used to be one guy, and it was free. now whoever it is hides behind a company that charges $20 for the stupid thing. |
| 11:38.06 | Corrodias | sleeps |
| 11:42.36 | batrick | kill -SIGCONT Corrodias |
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| 11:50.32 | Fisker | then i pked in your mouth batrick |
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| 12:03.21 | foxlit | Er, sanity check. |
| 12:03.44 | foxlit | I cannot check whether the user is holding down Button1 from within the restricted environment, right? |
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| 12:08.03 | Cide | w.t.f. |
| 12:08.13 | Cide | Adys: ping |
| 12:08.15 | mikma | haste: http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/bike12.jpg |
| 12:10.28 | Cide | nvm |
| 12:11.06 | olafski | cool bike |
| 12:11.25 | olafski | not sure if it'll drive well |
| 12:11.30 | olafski | ride* |
| 12:11.35 | Arrowmaster | i swear mplayer needs an option to always render a 1280x720 input as 1280x720 due to how often i find theyve got an incorrect aspect ratio specified in the file, seriously how the fuck do you messup and use 1.7889 instead of 1.7778 |
| 12:12.00 | Fisker | slaps Arrowmaster around a bit with a large trout |
| 12:12.01 | foxlit | pixel aspect ratios are evil |
| 12:15.06 | haste | Arrowmaster: you can tell mplayer what aspect ratio to use |
| 12:15.29 | Arrowmaster | i know but that requires manually doing it or just telling it -noaspect |
| 12:15.46 | haste | there's a config file you know :P |
| 12:16.28 | Arrowmaster | yes and that config file cant make decisions based on file properties |
| 12:16.47 | haste | that's correct, but you could always just make a local mplayer wrapper |
| 12:16.50 | theorbtwo | Arrowmaster: Will -noaspect mess up other files of yours? |
| 12:17.16 | Arrowmaster | yes it would mess up all anamorphic content |
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| 12:40.39 | cbreak | you can make a profile for it |
| 12:40.52 | cbreak | not that that would help you much :) |
| 12:41.11 | cbreak | you'd type mplayer -profile blah instead of mplayer -noaspect |
| 12:41.22 | cbreak | you can bind profiles to file endings |
| 12:46.28 | Arrowmaster | yes i already know that, profiles too |
| 12:46.35 | Arrowmaster | er protocols too |
| 12:46.54 | Arrowmaster | ive got one so dvd:// enables temporal deinterlacing |
| 12:47.30 | cbreak | wouldn't an inverse telecine filter be better for DVD content? |
| 12:47.37 | cbreak | hmm... well, unless you live in a pal region I guess |
| 12:48.28 | Arrowmaster | ive been watching older dvds |
| 12:48.37 | Arrowmaster | of tv shows |
| 12:48.45 | Arrowmaster | telecine is fucking useless on those |
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| 12:49.20 | cbreak | it's for movies :) |
| 12:49.42 | cbreak | to butcher 24fps movies into the 30000/1001 framerate NTSC uses |
| 12:50.13 | cbreak | so it's not useful to use inverse telecine on things produced for TV in the first place |
| 12:50.34 | Arrowmaster | and mplayer automatically detects it if the dvd was mastered correctly |
| 12:52.32 | nevcairiel | the main reason to never buy dvds again, blurays are finally distributed in 24p and not in silly pal or ntsc |
| 12:59.06 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: Did you read the wow.com article about HT Glyph? |
| 12:59.17 | nevcairiel | i dont read wow.com |
| 12:59.50 | jnwhiteh | http://www.wow.com/2010/02/23/shifting-perspectives-in-defense-of-a-glyph-everyone-hates-tue/ |
| 13:00.05 | jnwhiteh | I just never thought about actually trying it |
| 13:00.07 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 13:00.26 | cbreak | http://www.4p8.com/eric.brasseur/gamma.html, interesting |
| 13:02.29 | nevcairiel | eh, i just dont like to be a flash heal bot |
| 13:02.43 | nevcairiel | thats so classic |
| 13:02.54 | jnwhiteh | in raids, I agree |
| 13:03.02 | jnwhiteh | but I do too many pugs where I need to do something like that |
| 13:03.07 | jnwhiteh | althought I've never had an issue with Nourish |
| 13:03.16 | jnwhiteh | tho I hate castign it when I have no hots up on the target =/ |
| 13:03.38 | nevcairiel | no hots up? wut? |
| 13:03.41 | nevcairiel | that happens? |
| 13:03.42 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 13:03.53 | jnwhiteh | when I'm the only druid in a 25, in particular |
| 13:03.59 | jnwhiteh | i have some hots up, but not enough to blanket |
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| 13:07.59 | mikma | lul |
| 13:12.19 | mikma | @ jnwhiteh : im online, lolling at ur druid |
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| 13:16.24 | jnwhiteh | mikma: k k k |
| 13:16.28 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:16.47 | mikma | i'm gonna call dr.phil, ur gonna go k k k on my ass |
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| 13:23.17 | Zyonin | Cya all later, time to go earn some money |
| 13:25.20 | mikma | .. was, zyonin? with ops? who, what, why?!? |
| 13:26.41 | zenzelezz | new staff member I believe |
| 13:27.01 | Cairenn | ^^ |
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| 13:27.50 | mikma | lal |
| 13:27.56 | mikma | he has no idea where he has put his head into |
| 13:28.02 | mikma | pity the fool! |
| 13:28.08 | Cairenn | heh |
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| 13:34.54 | Cairenn | morning Lopeppeppy |
| 13:35.20 | Lopeppeppy | Snowpocalypse is here. I just shoveled a foot and a half off my car. And it's still snowing. *hangs head* |
| 13:35.33 | Cairenn | nod |
| 13:35.46 | Cairenn | we've been getting snow here the last couple days too, and is still snowing |
| 13:36.31 | zenzelezz | so you're the people who stole the snow from Vancouver |
| 13:36.38 | Lopeppeppy | I'm getting a weeeee bit worried that my ride for surgery can't make it here. He was coming from an hour away, and this is too nasty for that trip. |
| 13:36.59 | Cairenn | hopefully will clear by Friday |
| 13:37.05 | Cairenn | it's still only Wednesday |
| 13:37.28 | Lopeppeppy | My surgery is tomorrow. It's supposed to snow until 7pm, clear up for a few hours, snow all day tomorrow. |
| 13:37.50 | Lopeppeppy | The weather goddess is conspiring, I can hear her cackling! |
| 13:37.51 | Cairenn | ugh |
| 13:37.57 | Cairenn | I thought it was Friday |
| 13:38.24 | Lopeppeppy | But hilarious! I watched my oh-so-stupid neighbor trying to drive his little car over the 3 foot snowbank behind it. I died laughing. I did. He's soooo stuck now. Refused to borrow my shovel, he did. |
| 13:38.45 | Cairenn | duh |
| 13:38.49 | Lopeppeppy | My Cavalier is bigger than his matchbox car, and I wouldn't ask Eric to try to do that! |
| 13:38.56 | Cairenn | nod |
| 13:39.26 | Cairenn | 3 foot high bank, depending on how dense it is, I wouldn't have asked my 4Runner to go through it |
| 13:39.36 | Lopeppeppy | For lack of 10 minutes of shoveling, he's sooooo stuck he needs a towtruck. I am not a nice lady to laugh so hard. |
| 13:39.52 | Lopeppeppy | It's the 3 feet of what a snowplow throws up at the end of a driveway after plowing you in all night. That dense crap. |
| 13:39.56 | Cairenn | is he new to living in snow or something? |
| 13:40.01 | Cairenn | oh hell yes that is |
| 13:40.14 | Lopeppeppy | No, he's gotten stuck this way twice on smaller snowbanks this winter. |
| 13:40.22 | Cairenn | well then laugh away |
| 13:40.45 | Lopeppeppy | Both times turning down my offer of the loan of my shovel. So maybe he's allergic to girl cooties and has to try the manly way to prove me wrong each time? |
| 13:43.39 | Cairenn | naw, sounds like he's just a stubborn dumbass |
| 13:43.50 | zenzelezz | what's manly about having to resort to using a machine? |
| 13:44.07 | zenzelezz | real men would have taken a spoon to show you how good they are at shoveling |
| 13:44.13 | Cairenn | heh |
| 13:44.28 | Thrae | REAL men are cyborgs with snow blowers for arms. |
| 13:44.57 | Lopeppeppy | the other neighbor was using a freakin' trenching tool size shovel. |
| 13:45.10 | mikma | haha, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_jOd9ohHGE ... NOM NOM NOM DELICIOUS |
| 13:45.12 | Lopeppeppy | I left him mine when I was done. |
| 13:45.27 | Lopeppeppy | Mine is a big blue plastic number, which I wax at the beginning of each season. |
| 13:45.29 | Audible | if you are a man you wip out your penis and urinate the snow away |
| 13:45.43 | Audible | thats how real men do it, not with shovels |
| 13:45.51 | Cairenn | eww |
| 13:46.12 | zenzelezz | I think you're confusing real men with demented alcoholic idiots Audible |
| 13:46.45 | Lopeppeppy | Who want to freeze to the ground, it's freakin' cold out there for whipping the johnson around. |
| 13:46.56 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 13:48.47 | mikma | haste: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnY-IN895VM |
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| 13:49.01 | Audible | i suddenly got a feeling this channel had alot of female factor over it |
| 13:49.23 | Cairenn | ya think? |
| 13:50.15 | zenzelezz | Audible is just afraid to discover his feminine side |
| 13:51.23 | Audible | i guess i have a pink shirt like everyone else |
| 13:51.51 | zenzelezz | magenta |
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| 13:54.24 | Lopeppeppy | Salmon |
| 13:54.47 | zenzelezz | I find that a weird thing to call it |
| 13:55.02 | zenzelezz | it's like saying "grass" instead of "green" |
| 13:55.20 | krka | or "orange" instead of "orange" |
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| 13:55.24 | Cairenn | lol |
| 13:55.40 | krka | or as Homer puts it "Purple is a fruit" |
| 13:56.34 | zenzelezz | while I've read the explanations many times, I still find it amusing that magenta is not an actual color |
| 13:56.47 | Lopeppeppy | Magenta is a maid. |
| 13:58.06 | Cairenn | magenta isn't a colour? |
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| 13:58.45 | krka | actually, in sweden Orange is only the colour, the fruit is called Apelsin (sort of means chinese apple). Technically, we can also call the colour Brandgul, which i guess translates to Fireyellow |
| 13:58.58 | zenzelezz | http://www.biotele.com/magenta.html |
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| 14:02.33 | Cairenn | huh |
| 14:03.56 | Lopeppeppy | The brain, it makes shit up all the time! |
| 14:03.58 | mikma | haste: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPlSGch3S84 |
| 14:04.04 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: true dat |
| 14:04.31 | Fisker | slaps Cairenn around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:04.41 | Cairenn | sighs at Fisker |
| 14:04.51 | Fisker | cheers |
| 14:04.59 | alestane | Cairenn: Magenta is *also* a colo(u)r. |
| 14:05.11 | zenzelezz | all aboard the failtroll |
| 14:05.12 | Fisker | don't be so british alestane |
| 14:06.12 | Cairenn | that's not just British, Fisker |
| 14:06.30 | amro | yes but nobody knows anything about canada |
| 14:06.30 | Lopeppeppy | I am a U girl too. |
| 14:06.34 | Lopeppeppy | and I live in new england |
| 14:06.49 | Fisker | i've already successfully trolled one person zenzelezz |
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| 14:07.00 | Grum | Fisker: did it cry? |
| 14:07.13 | Fisker | http://dagobah.biz/flash/successful_troll_2.swf <-which means i'm playing that now |
| 14:07.38 | zenzelezz | Fisker comes from the Dagobah system? |
| 14:07.57 | Lopeppeppy | Woot, you just scared the crap out of my cat, Fisker. Excellent troll! |
| 14:08.07 | Fisker | :3 |
| 14:08.15 | zenzelezz | which of your cats? |
| 14:08.15 | amro | Fisker: music needs more cowbell |
| 14:08.31 | Fisker | i don't get why Adobe haven't figured out to make a global volume control on flash or something |
| 14:08.32 | Lopeppeppy | Mooseling. |
| 14:08.36 | Grum | never have your speakers on when clicking links in an irc channel =D |
| 14:08.52 | Lopeppeppy | I'm used to being at work with no sound! |
| 14:08.58 | Grum | hehe |
| 14:11.56 | Cairenn | mmmmm, arrowroots for breakfast |
| 14:12.06 | Cairenn | nom nom nom |
| 14:12.18 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCt2nZF2nLk |
| 14:12.25 | Lopeppeppy | I'm on the toast and ginger ale still. |
| 14:12.29 | Wobin | arrowroots with butter? |
| 14:12.44 | Cairenn | naw, just plain |
| 14:12.52 | Wobin | butter makes it better! |
| 14:12.54 | Cairenn | easy on the tummy |
| 14:13.46 | Cairenn | I've had a migraine for about a week now, tummy not happy |
| 14:13.48 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah. I really want garlic toast, I'm settling for plain toast. If that's good, then some nice scrambled eggs. |
| 14:14.19 | Lopeppeppy | ginger snaps are also a staple of my upset-tummy-time, Cairenn. Ginger plus cracker. |
| 14:14.25 | Cairenn | yup |
| 14:14.53 | zenzelezz | a ginger upset by ginger? |
| 14:15.07 | Lopeppeppy | I hate the taste of it, sadly. But it works. |
| 14:15.48 | Cairenn | BRAT + ginger ale == best for upset tummy |
| 14:16.05 | zenzelezz | BRAT? |
| 14:16.19 | Cairenn | bananas, rice, apple sauce, toast |
| 14:16.48 | Cairenn | also the things they give to people who have basically been starved |
| 14:17.26 | Cairenn | really easy on the stomach, to re-introduce food |
| 14:17.31 | Cairenn | without making things worse |
| 14:19.28 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF6U2-_Dhw4&feature=player_embedded |
| 14:19.30 | Lopeppeppy | BRAT is awesome, if boring. |
| 14:19.31 | Wobin | omg... dolph |
| 14:20.21 | zenzelezz | Rudolph the red light reindeer? |
| 14:22.02 | Lopeppeppy | Rudolph the not magenta nosed reindeer! |
| 14:22.16 | Cairenn | lol |
| 14:23.46 | robotusch | new personal best in voa25 |
| 14:23.54 | robotusch | 3 pieces of lock loot dropped in 2 runs >_< |
| 14:24.09 | Wobin | robotusch, with no lock in the group? =P |
| 14:24.13 | robotusch | 1 |
| 14:24.40 | robotusch | we would have had two in the run where two pieces dropped, but the second lock bailed when he realised he would have competition for any potential drops |
| 14:25.37 | Fisker | hey robotusch |
| 14:25.46 | robotusch | hey fuck you Fisker |
| 14:25.56 | robotusch | ^_^ |
| 14:27.52 | Wobin | heheh |
| 14:27.52 | Wobin | http://survivingtheworld.net/Lesson582.html |
| 14:33.28 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kquiJR3j_5w |
| 14:37.17 | Cide- | http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/765/mothership.gif |
| 14:44.21 | Lopeppeppy | Must now be VPNing. TTFN! |
| 14:49.54 | mikma | omg omg don't watch this, he's using a bad word "bitch" !!!!!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHCqz-J51IU other than that it's funny |
| 14:51.52 | Fisker | http://www.neowin.net/news/google-execs-found-guilty-of-allowing-video-to-be-posted-to-youtube <-we need moar of this |
| 15:00.58 | alestane | The Chinese approach to web hosting. |
| 15:01.30 | alestane | "You're just as guilty of retransmitting it as the poster is of uploading it." |
| 15:01.50 | Cide- | well, I can see that they should have taken it down faster |
| 15:01.57 | Cide- | it's not reasonable to expect them to screen it at upload time |
| 15:02.17 | Cide- | but given that several people reported it as offensive it should have gone down faster than 2 months |
| 15:04.40 | olafski | Over 20 hours of video are uploaded to YouTube every minute. <-- this just means they need to have 1200+ employees screening content |
| 15:05.22 | alestane | ...it would help solve the unemployment problem, anyway. |
| 15:05.35 | Cide- | less |
| 15:05.38 | Cide- | could go in 2x speed |
| 15:05.43 | olafski | they .. yeah was about to say that |
| 15:05.49 | olafski | would solve a lot of rickrolling too! |
| 15:06.07 | Cide- | fun job |
| 15:06.15 | olafski | though I guess you can't expect people to work 24/7 so that might up the number a bit again |
| 15:06.22 | Cide- | listening to high-pitched fast-forwarded random video 8 hours a day... in shifts |
| 15:06.25 | olafski | :) |
| 15:06.38 | alestane | I anticipate a high turnover. |
| 15:06.39 | olafski | you can speed up sound without changing pitch though.. that should make it a tad more bearable |
| 15:06.48 | Cide- | ya |
| 15:06.55 | Cide- | but funnier if they don't |
| 15:06.56 | Legorol | it's ridiculous, you don't see the video recorder's makers |
| 15:06.59 | olafski | but then you'd still be looking at / listening to all the trash the internet produces |
| 15:07.00 | Legorol | s/see/sue/ |
| 15:07.07 | Cide- | they were expelled |
| 15:07.38 | alestane | Legorol: Juveniles usually aren't civilly liable. |
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| 15:08.08 | Legorol | alestane: what does that have to do with the concept that you don't sue the equipment maker? |
| 15:08.21 | alestane | Ah, misunderstood. |
| 15:08.34 | Legorol | oh, did you read it as "recorded video" or some such? |
| 15:09.08 | alestane | Or as "video's recorders/makers" or something like that. |
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| 15:10.42 | Kaelten | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/289359/380cf3120cb6ed0d61a969bd70f929fa.gif |
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| 15:13.42 | Cide- | nice |
| 15:13.56 | Ackis | so I installed SC2 beta last night |
| 15:14.01 | olafski | why |
| 15:14.08 | Ackis | and I ended up playing my first online RTS in DoW2 lol |
| 15:18.24 | nicoli_s | lol |
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| 15:19.44 | ckknight | Ackis: bah, forgot to add you again when I played this morning |
| 15:19.55 | Ackis | ~lart ckknight |
| 15:19.56 | purl | eats ckknight and falls over dead |
| 15:20.03 | Ackis | only one that added me as of last night was Kody- |
| 15:20.05 | ckknight | played two 1v1s and an FFA |
| 15:24.24 | Fisker | fu ckknight |
| 15:24.27 | Fisker | HEY ckknight |
| 15:24.30 | Fisker | fuckknight |
| 15:24.31 | Fisker | LOL! |
| 15:24.33 | ckknight | hey Fisker |
| 15:28.03 | Kaelten | Ackis: add me :P |
| 15:28.10 | Kaelten | Fisker: you can add me too |
| 15:28.56 | Ackis | Kaelten: I added you last night I thought |
| 15:29.11 | Kaelten | k, |
| 15:29.16 | Ackis | macssuck@gmail.com is your address right? |
| 15:29.16 | Kaelten | I didn't sign on last night |
| 15:29.26 | Kaelten | next time I do I'll check it |
| 15:30.31 | Ackis | rgr dgr |
| 15:30.47 | Ackis | is still waiting for you to fulfill his request on MSN :P |
| 15:31.01 | Kraps | macssuck@gmail? |
| 15:31.18 | Ackis | http://www.curseforge.com/profiles/wowgold7thcom/ lulz |
| 15:31.35 | Fisker | no Kaelten |
| 15:31.37 | Fisker | i cannot |
| 15:31.47 | Kaelten | Fisker: why not? |
| 15:31.51 | Kraps | accentuate the positive, pcsrock@gmail |
| 15:32.33 | Fisker | because blizzard are racist Kaelten |
| 15:32.46 | Kaelten | Fisker: ah, ya I hate the region locking |
| 15:32.56 | Kraps | yeah they hate BEs |
| 15:32.56 | Ackis | oh I can't play against a Fisker then? |
| 15:33.09 | Ackis | I was hoping to destroy him so bad he cries irl |
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| 15:35.44 | Kraps | iforonewelcomourpcoverlords@gmail.com |
| 15:36.07 | olafski | oO |
| 15:36.54 | Cide- | can one control what region sc2 is installed as when entering the key? |
| 15:37.13 | Cide- | by going to, say, eu.battle.net or us.battle.net |
| 15:41.03 | Kraps | Cide-: can you do that with wow? |
| 15:41.11 | Cide- | huh? |
| 15:41.18 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ymkoh-vKzM |
| 15:41.18 | Cide- | no idea |
| 15:41.29 | Cide- | the keys for wow are region-specific |
| 15:41.36 | Cide- | I don't believe the sc2 beta ones are |
| 15:42.04 | nicoli_s | i think they are' |
| 15:42.40 | Cide- | I don't |
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| 15:45.40 | Kraps | prot warrior's Vitality talent is getting buffed for the win |
| 15:45.49 | Ackis | nicoli_s: I don't think so, I gave Fisker a US one and Chip an EU one |
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| 15:51.16 | nicoli_s | really? weird |
| 15:51.23 | nicoli_s | though i dunno if chip has used his yet |
| 15:52.33 | Ackis | yeah he did |
| 15:52.35 | Ackis | I verified with him |
| 15:52.38 | nicoli_s | ahh k |
| 15:59.53 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV4EMzyJsqU |
| 16:13.38 | Ackis | lulz |
| 16:13.39 | Ackis | http://gizmodo.com/5479150/youtube-pulls-the-original-rickroll-video-spurring-inevitable-wave-of-protest-rickrolls |
| 16:19.37 | Shirik | MILAN (AP) - An Italian court convicted three Google executives of privacy violations Wednesday because they did not act quickly enough to pull down an video online that showed bullies abusing an autistic boy. |
| 16:20.47 | Shirik | that is a very dangerous precedent to set |
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| 16:30.18 | Ackis | aye |
| 16:30.27 | Ackis | were they italian google execs? |
| 16:32.15 | Kraps | Ackis: why? |
| 16:32.26 | Kraps | the rickroll vid |
| 16:32.48 | Ackis | then the judgment actually matters, otherwise they just don't vacation in italy |
| 16:33.36 | Kraps | i mean, why pull the rickroll vid? |
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| 16:34.22 | Ackis | oh dunno |
| 16:37.51 | Kraps | yeah, Michelle Branch |
| 16:38.14 | DWSR | Kraps: Sony BMG complained. |
| 16:39.07 | Kraps | wow, talk about being late to the party |
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| 16:41.18 | Ackis | Cairenn: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=179693&postcount=33 (Is my sig too big?) |
| 16:42.06 | Cairenn | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=684&postcount=2 |
| 16:42.30 | Ackis | yeah I have 4 images though :P |
| 16:42.31 | Ackis | kekek |
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| 16:42.44 | Cairenn | look at the bottom of the post I linked :p |
| 16:42.45 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-SrXKlHZFo |
| 16:42.50 | mikma | enjoy your hockey |
| 16:43.09 | Ackis | the product/service? |
| 16:43.41 | Cairenn | look at the BOTTOM of the post I linked :p |
| 16:44.13 | Ackis | oh... look AND click |
| 16:44.18 | Ackis | I saw a red thumbnail |
| 16:44.23 | Ackis | I was like woah a thumbnail |
| 16:44.29 | Fisker | LOL |
| 16:44.35 | Fisker | someone is whining about the frost lotus changed |
| 16:44.37 | Cairenn | pokes Ackis |
| 16:44.40 | Fisker | saying how it doesn't pay off anymore |
| 16:44.56 | Fisker | Apparently he didn't get the memo that Frost lotus used to go for 20-30g each instead of 50-80g each |
| 16:45.04 | Zyonin | Yeech, Ackis. Your "sig" looks like a building covered in posters and adverts |
| 16:45.38 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 16:45.41 | Fisker | are you from canada? |
| 16:46.24 | Cairenn | yes, he is, but given how deliberately obtuse he's being at the moment, I'm not sure we want to claim him :p |
| 16:46.47 | Zyonin | lol |
| 16:47.02 | Ackis | Fisker: eh? |
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| 16:47.16 | Lunessa | station |
| 16:47.23 | Cairenn | station |
| 16:47.44 | mikma | gas |
| 16:48.02 | Fisker | busstop |
| 16:48.18 | Lunessa | huggles Cairenn. |
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| 16:48.40 | Cairenn | cuddles Lunessa |
| 16:48.54 | Kraps | grand central |
| 16:49.38 | Kraps | Lunessa: i made a dk |
| 16:49.51 | Zyonin | Damn, I hate waiting for Synaptic to finish downloading updates. I need to get a PPA added to my list |
| 16:50.10 | Lunessa | Kraps: Sweet. They're pretty fun. |
| 16:50.25 | Kraps | Lunessa: i know |
| 16:51.00 | Kraps | i have one on each of the previous servers ive been on :/ |
| 16:54.11 | Kraps | which is 2 but... |
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| 16:54.58 | zenzelezz | two butts? |
| 16:55.50 | Kraps | butte |
| 16:59.26 | Lunessa | http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20100224 |
| 16:59.37 | durcyn | ugh, that awful comic still exists |
| 17:01.50 | alestane | Ethan needs to learn to play against the computer for a little while. |
| 17:02.23 | Kraps | durcyn: eh, people are taking the miscarriage thing to far imo |
| 17:02.56 | durcyn | too far? how about buckley took it too far in the first place |
| 17:03.23 | durcyn | it's almost as awful as randall munroe creeping out on his sister in law via xkcd |
| 17:03.27 | zenzelezz | apparently Encyclopedia Dramatica has some interesting info about Tim Buckley (truth I do not know) |
| 17:03.48 | Kraps | randall munroe creeping out on his sister in law via xkcd wut? |
| 17:03.53 | Kraps | tell |
| 17:04.06 | durcyn | Kraps: "Megan" |
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| 17:05.14 | Kraps | cant place the name |
| 17:05.59 | durcyn | http://xkcd.com/420/ |
| 17:06.30 | Fisker | go denmark! |
| 17:06.31 | Fisker | http://www.theonion.com/content/video/denmark_introduces_harrowing_new |
| 17:07.33 | durcyn | tell me that's not creepy, Kraps |
| 17:08.03 | Fisker | it is very creepy |
| 17:08.36 | Kraps | lal |
| 17:08.52 | Kraps | how do you know its true? |
| 17:09.47 | Ackis | it's slightly creepy |
| 17:17.15 | Shirik | ÒTest |
| 17:17.20 | Shirik | hm, boring |
| 17:17.42 | Ackis | lol http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/epic-fail-dad-win.jpg chest popping kid ftw |
| 17:17.46 | Shirik | Does that read as "Test" or "tseT" to anyone? |
| 17:18.53 | Ackis | Test with a star in front of it |
| 17:18.57 | Ackis | well star thingy |
| 17:19.16 | Kraps | Ò |
| 17:19.25 | Ackis | yeah that |
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| 17:21.44 | Shirik | ÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒÒ |
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| 17:21.57 | Shirik | :( |
| 17:22.01 | Shirik | I was hoping for something much more fun |
| 17:24.32 | amro | Shirik: you can help me figure out why this is performing badly on windows. fun! |
| 17:24.42 | Shirik | l2codeanalyst |
| 17:24.43 | Kraps | i get a box that says |
| 17:24.48 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4UuZ5mauKk crazy fans |
| 17:24.50 | Fisker | you put a spell on me Shirik |
| 17:24.54 | Kraps | 04 |
| 17:24.56 | Kraps | 84 |
| 17:25.36 | amro | Shirik: the rendering is slow, even when nothing's being rendered. it's not in my code |
| 17:25.45 | amro | something about the context or format is off |
| 17:25.50 | amro | I just can't figure out what |
| 17:25.51 | Shirik | (12:24:32) (@Shirik) l2codeanalyst |
| 17:25.55 | Shirik | (12:24:32) (@Shirik) l2codeanalyst(12:24:32) (@Shirik) l2codeanalyst(12:24:32) (@Shirik) l2codeanalyst(12:24:32) (@Shirik) l2codeanalyst(12:24:32) (@Shirik) l2codeanalyst(12:24:32) (@Shirik) l2codeanalyst(12:24:32) (@Shirik) l2codeanalyst(12:24:32) (@Shirik) l2codeanalyst(12:24:32) (@Shirik) l2codeanalyst(12:24:32) (@Shirik) l2codeanalyst(12:24:32) (@Shirik) l2codeanalyst(12:24:32) (@Shirik) l2codeanalyst(12:24:32 |
| 17:26.24 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 17:26.25 | amro | l2readenglish |
| 17:26.35 | Shirik | Attempting to resolve performance issues without running code analyst is setting yourself up for failure |
| 17:26.45 | Shirik | I've written an entire paper on this I'm pretty sure I believe in it pretty strongly :P |
| 17:26.47 | amro | Shirik: I already ran it through a profiler |
| 17:26.53 | Shirik | you didn't say that! |
| 17:26.55 | Shirik | show the profile then |
| 17:27.08 | amro | not on windows atm |
| 17:27.09 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
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| 17:28.47 | Fnord^ | ....lol. So I think "Maybe this channel is more populated than stalker dev channel"...o.o |
| 17:28.51 | amro | any reocmmendations for a lua unit testing framework? |
| 17:31.21 | Fisker | luwha? amro |
| 17:35.26 | alestane | Just had someone in trade asking when he would learn to smelt lesser bloodstone. |
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| 17:37.52 | TC-Away | now this is nifty http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/tools/c890/?cpg=125H |
| 17:38.29 | amro | alestane: yeah, I've been wondering that for years as well |
| 17:40.00 | Kraps | durcyn: has munroe said that some comics are about himself? |
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| 17:43.43 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: That is pretty nifty |
| 17:44.58 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa: ya, that would have saved me many hours of making my own cables in class |
| 17:45.24 | Lunessa | Seriously. I could have used one pretty often when I was freelancing. |
| 17:47.54 | Thunder_Child | heh http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/unisex/sciencemath/d4a0/ |
| 17:49.54 | Fisker | slaps Thunder_Child around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:49.57 | Fisker | you |
| 17:50.02 | Thunder_Child | me |
| 17:50.20 | Fisker | yes |
| 17:50.21 | Fisker | you |
| 17:50.38 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 17:50.39 | Thunder_Child | me |
| 17:50.52 | Fisker | so we agree |
| 17:50.57 | Fisker | shakes hand |
| 17:51.03 | Thunder_Child | shakes back |
| 17:56.09 | cog|away | hides |
| 17:58.32 | Ackis | you guys done peeing? |
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| 17:58.57 | Thunder_Child | never |
| 17:59.52 | amro | that's disturbing |
| 18:01.04 | Thunder_Child | not really, you never will stop peeing either...till you're dead |
| 18:01.56 | Audible | haha, gearscore addon, "this script output cannot be faked" |
| 18:02.01 | Audible | funny |
| 18:02.41 | Ackis | i r roaring http://cuteoverload.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/3209237205_94801e0f03_b.jpg?w=560&h=560 |
| 18:05.40 | Cairenn | lol |
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| 18:10.18 | Kraps | Europe gets FCMs THREE TIMES A WEEK, US NEVER has any :( |
| 18:10.20 | Slackwise | Is ADDON_LOADED guaranteed to fire before any other event or do I need to throw in a conditional with IsAddOnLoaded()...? |
| 18:10.32 | Kraps | s/week/MONTH |
| 18:12.12 | theorbtwo | This mostly tells me that the US is better at keeping the realms balanced in the first place. |
| 18:12.26 | theorbtwo | ...whereas EU relms commonly get unbalanced enough to need FCMs. |
| 18:14.34 | Kraps | that was my conclusion as well |
| 18:14.41 | Kraps | >.> |
| 18:15.45 | Ackis | Fisker: you try the steam beta UI? |
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| 18:22.08 | amro | I think it's the whole open borders shit they have going on in europe |
| 18:22.22 | amro | whereas you still have to pay toll to cross most state boundaries |
| 18:24.12 | Kraps | lol amro |
| 18:24.54 | Kraps | within the same city even |
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| 18:43.37 | Ackis | Shirik: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/02/serious-threat-to-web-in-italy.html not sure if you read that yet (Googles response) |
| 18:45.31 | Shirik | their reply is addressing the exact same concerns I have |
| 18:46.29 | Ackis | I wasn't sure of the details but in the blog reply it states the video was removed within hours of being notified |
| 18:48.04 | Adys | Cide: pong |
| 18:48.49 | Cide | no clue what I wanted :P |
| 18:51.14 | batrick | is there a way in windows to block outgoing traffic on a port (a la iptables)? |
| 18:52.12 | amro | you wanted a pong obviously |
| 18:53.12 | Adys | Cide: about the structures i guess |
| 18:53.30 | amro | http://cdn.ad4game.com/5fee9263d09cdf20786523bc000b1d3d.jpg |
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| 18:54.28 | msoul | Hi, what's the addon name that ignores the person who spam in general chat? |
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| 18:58.03 | Kraps | how did the AQ event work in-game? world raids fighting mobs? was it a one-time thing that if you missed, you missed? |
| 18:58.48 | Zyonin | It was actually a fairly long event |
| 18:59.18 | amro | yeah, and it was awesome because you had a use for all those bandages/potions/other crap they were collecting |
| 18:59.28 | Zyonin | It started off by having various trade bits being turned in. They ranged from low level stuff all the way up so everyone could participate |
| 18:59.58 | Zyonin | The more people on a server participated (doing the turn-ins) the quicker the gates unlocked |
| 19:00.37 | amro | there was also the bang the gong quest that you only had one chance to complete |
| 19:00.39 | Zyonin | Then once all the trade goods were turned in, one could start a very long and epic quest line. You had to be a member of a top-flight rading guild |
| 19:01.22 | Zyonin | Once the gong was rung, a huge world event started in Silithus, Feathermoon Stronghold, Gadgetzan and elsewhere |
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| 19:01.53 | Adys | mostly silithus |
| 19:02.00 | Zyonin | In Silithus there was a huge scripted event. I never got to see that as the lag was so bad I could not get there |
| 19:02.11 | Kraps | anyone could ring it and the world event would start for everyone? |
| 19:02.13 | Adys | Zyonin: I saw it a lot better on the ptr the other day |
| 19:02.27 | Adys | Kraps: no, only the one(s) who gathered the scepter |
| 19:02.28 | Zyonin | Nope, only one player could ring the gong |
| 19:02.42 | Zyonin | And that was after they completed the quest line which award the scepter. |
| 19:02.49 | Adys | one player, and anyone else who had the scepter within 12 hours :P |
| 19:02.55 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ |
| 19:03.09 | Adys | questline involved lots of raid kills and what not, plus a huge farming event |
| 19:03.12 | Zyonin | It a number of raids to get that scepter includign killing world obsses |
| 19:03.16 | Zyonin | bosses |
| 19:03.23 | Adys | man |
| 19:03.33 | Adys | just the farming would make anyone cry today |
| 19:03.39 | Kraps | interesting |
| 19:03.53 | Adys | even one tenth |
| 19:04.03 | Adys | btw |
| 19:04.06 | Kraps | trying to get a fix on what the gnomer event would be like :) |
| 19:04.09 | Zyonin | However even those who just did the trade turns got something, either a bag of greens that could sold or DEed, or emblems to be turned into the cities on your side for rep |
| 19:04.09 | Adys | I strongly recommend checking out new ptrs |
| 19:04.29 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont think looking at AQ will giv eyou a good idea of what the gnomer event will be |
| 19:04.30 | Adys | AQ event is often active on them |
| 19:04.34 | Adys | and it's really great |
| 19:04.39 | Zyonin | If I had access to WoW right now, I would check it out Adys |
| 19:04.49 | Adys | its not active |
| 19:04.52 | Adys | it was a couple of days ago |
| 19:04.52 | Zyonin | however I have OS/Hardware issues currently |
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| 19:05.30 | amro | sounds like you're using both windows and ATI. |
| 19:05.37 | Zyonin | I can't play WoW with my current GFX card under Linux as my PC will hard lock. Crappy ATI drivers |
| 19:05.39 | Adys | ~amro++ |
| 19:05.44 | Adys | ~amro++++++++ |
| 19:05.54 | Kraps | so it took a few days? |
| 19:06.00 | amro | few months |
| 19:06.04 | Cide | dude |
| 19:06.08 | Cide | ati is awesome |
| 19:06.08 | Zyonin | The AQ event, serveral months |
| 19:06.19 | Adys | Kraps, Zyonin |
| 19:06.19 | Cide | cry more about unix drivers |
| 19:06.20 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/adys/run.jpg |
| 19:06.39 | Zyonin | ATI is good, however if you have an older Radeon GPU, you are SoL as far as decent Linux drivers |
| 19:06.50 | Adys | Zyonin: no |
| 19:06.57 | Adys | if you have any ati card, you are Sol :P |
| 19:07.22 | amro | yes |
| 19:07.28 | Zyonin | New cards don't have as many issues. However as I was about to say, I am about to fix my hardware issue by rebuilding this jalopy of a PC |
| 19:07.32 | amro | if you're lucky with a newer ATI card, it might work on windows |
| 19:07.37 | amro | but there's not a chance on linux |
| 19:07.50 | Ackis | lol Adys |
| 19:07.55 | amro | at best, it would tease you by working for 30-45 seconds then hardlocking |
| 19:07.59 | Zyonin | I am targeting an NVIDIA 8800 based card or better |
| 19:08.15 | Adys | Zyonin: i recommend the 9800gtx+ |
| 19:08.35 | Zyonin | however before I get a new card, I have to rebuild as my mainboard is old enough that there is zero way I can plug a new GFX card |
| 19:08.35 | amro | same, it works flawlessly on linux |
| 19:09.08 | Adys | Zyonin: It's good enough to run absolutely anything, old enough not to cost a fortune, and there's one more digit than the lame 2xx cards so you get a bigger epeen |
| 19:09.49 | Zyonin | I don't care about my epeen and I don't play FPS games. WoW, RTS, and RPGs are my forte |
| 19:10.32 | Kraps | Adys: wheres anubis? :/ |
| 19:11.03 | Zyonin | Next month it will be shopping time for a new mainboard, CPU, PSU, RAM, and GFX card. I am looking foward to it as this machine was last rebuilt in 2004 |
| 19:11.26 | amro | Zyonin: still, you get to max the view distance in WoW and run two clients smoothly |
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| 19:11.42 | amro | I used to run EVE and WoW at the same time |
| 19:11.56 | amro | and that was after the graphics upgrade |
| 19:11.59 | amro | both on wine |
| 19:12.00 | Zyonin | Well, I see what's available in my area and how much of my PC budget it will take |
| 19:12.12 | amro | with ATI that would have caused a nuclear explosion |
| 19:12.19 | Adys | Kraps |
| 19:12.36 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/adys/lewt.jpg |
| 19:13.01 | amro | if anyone needs HoN invites, I have a bunch |
| 19:13.12 | Adys | if anyone needs more, i have more. |
| 19:13.37 | Ackis | anyone needs even more, I have a lot |
| 19:13.44 | Cairenn | lol |
| 19:14.15 | amro | Adys: you still click? |
| 19:14.28 | Adys | click what? |
| 19:14.29 | Adys | this is ptr |
| 19:14.37 | amro | bindings are serverside |
| 19:14.45 | amro | don't they get copied as well? |
| 19:14.45 | Adys | no |
| 19:14.47 | Adys | not the ptr ones |
| 19:14.55 | Adys | some retarded config |
| 19:15.24 | Kraps | Adys: what is that? |
| 19:15.42 | Adys | Kraps: some loot from the AQ event :P |
| 19:16.02 | Kraps | WOW |
| 19:16.08 | Kraps | caps |
| 19:16.18 | Adys | Kraps: I sold most of it |
| 19:16.24 | Adys | theres like a hundred of boe blues and greens |
| 19:16.26 | Adys | moneyfest |
| 19:16.39 | Ackis | I still have the ring that lets you breath underwater |
| 19:16.59 | Cairenn | +e |
| 19:19.10 | Arrowmaster | Adys: did you kill a colossal while you were doing it? |
| 19:20.16 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5xtRdLOopU |
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| 19:24.07 | DWSR | lol, anyone here that has seen a conquerer's token drop out of 25m ICC? |
| 19:24.09 | kd3 | the hell? teebu's and how many thousand scarabs? |
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| 19:24.50 | Adys | Arrowmaster: |
| 19:24.51 | Adys | yes |
| 19:24.53 | Adys | two of them |
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| 19:25.09 | Adys | one 2manned with bibi's dk and one solo with some help from the npcs :P |
| 19:26.14 | Arrowmaster | should try them with a lvl 60 character |
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| 19:27.07 | Ackis | I remember that event sucking, the server crashed every 2 seconds it seemed |
| 19:27.17 | Adys | had some serious lag |
| 19:27.18 | Adys | btw |
| 19:27.32 | Adys | remember when you fought the little event bugs and it was keeping you in combat |
| 19:27.38 | Adys | and how you were putting that on the lag? |
| 19:27.45 | Adys | well it wasn't the lag and its still not been fixed. |
| 19:27.55 | Ackis | wasn't that identified as non-lag in AQ40 though? |
| 19:28.03 | Adys | no its unrelated to aq |
| 19:28.13 | Ackis | ah I was thinking of the yellow things in twins room |
| 19:28.26 | kd3 | grr, I hated those |
| 19:28.44 | kd3 | not quite as much as pre and post-emps trash, but still |
| 19:28.44 | Adys | yellow things? Oo |
| 19:28.45 | kd3 | grr |
| 19:28.49 | kd3 | the scarab things |
| 19:28.52 | Ackis | how long did it take to realize that you couldn't use thunderfury in that room |
| 19:28.56 | Ackis | Adys: neutral bugs |
| 19:28.56 | Adys | oh |
| 19:28.57 | Adys | omg |
| 19:29.03 | kd3 | I'd always inadvertantly hit some aoe |
| 19:29.22 | Adys | was terrible, yeah |
| 19:29.34 | Ackis | I was a healer on that fight, I was terrible at moving out of the blizzards |
| 19:29.43 | Ackis | I went through so many frost protection potions lol |
| 19:30.45 | Adys | kd3: whats the current live build? |
| 19:30.50 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpBOzNhA7-s |
| 19:30.55 | kd3 | 11403 |
| 19:31.38 | kd3 | 248000 |
| 19:31.40 | kd3 | gah |
| 19:31.52 | kd3 | no, kd3, xchat is not your authenticator prompt window |
| 19:32.33 | cog|work | my rogue, cognitowheel, just got the "no, not the cogs!" speech from Zootfizzle QQ |
| 19:32.41 | kd3 | lmfao |
| 19:33.17 | DWSR | kd3: Fail at the first authenticator prompt. |
| 19:33.23 | DWSR | only 5 digits lolol |
| 19:33.37 | kd3 | first one was an answer to adys' question |
| 19:33.46 | DWSR | ah, nvm |
| 19:34.50 | DWSR | Anyone know why Blizzard purposely broke seeing wall health? |
| 19:35.05 | nevcairiel | Why do you assume its on purpose? |
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| 19:36.23 | DWSR | nevcairiel: Because it was unannounced and there is no patch note in 3.3 to fix it. |
| 19:36.49 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/409291929 |
| 19:36.54 | nevcairiel | that doesnt make sense |
| 19:37.12 | Adys | no nevcairiel |
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| 19:37.23 | Adys | theres no way its intended |
| 19:37.34 | Adys | bloody annoying |
| 19:37.44 | nevcairiel | thats what i'm saying |
| 19:37.50 | nevcairiel | i don't see how its on purpose |
| 19:37.50 | Adys | oh |
| 19:37.51 | Adys | sorry |
| 19:37.58 | Adys | yeah its just DWSR being an ass. |
| 19:39.14 | DWSR | http://fury.com/2010/02/jesse-shells-mindblowing-talk-on-the-future-of-games-dice-2010/ <-- Facebook knocked us on our collective ass. LULZ. |
| 19:39.23 | Ackis | hmm I wonder if Chantelle would be up for having the priest say wedding vows like yoda |
| 19:39.30 | Ackis | "Take this woman, do you?" |
| 19:39.55 | nevcairiel | hah |
| 19:40.10 | nevcairiel | I bet its harder to find a priest that would do it |
| 19:40.24 | Ackis | I mentioned the idea to her |
| 19:40.27 | Ackis | I'm in trouble now :( |
| 19:40.30 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 19:41.08 | cog|work | "Well, I don't know. I was here tending the fire and discussing the drawbacks of cogs with Zootfizzle. That's pretty epic, too, in its own way." |
| 19:41.10 | Cairenn | lol |
| 19:42.55 | Ackis | Me: "In trouble am I?" Her: "Die" |
| 19:43.35 | cog|work | turned her to the dark side, you have. Yess... Mmmm.... |
| 19:43.55 | DWSR | Holy shit;. |
| 19:44.01 | DWSR | This guy is hilarious and right and awesome all at the same time. |
| 19:45.09 | Adys | you could use a lesson from him |
| 19:47.09 | amro | ~Adys++ |
| 19:50.00 | DWSR | anyone here own MAG? |
| 19:55.45 | Kraps | wtb moar sans-serif |
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| 20:02.16 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 20:02.19 | Fisker | it's Fisker time |
| 20:02.29 | Shirik | mutes Fisker |
| 20:03.22 | Fisker | the correct answer would've been "No Fisker no!" |
| 20:04.30 | Kraps | fisker time? sounds dirty |
| 20:05.24 | olafski | amazing how with all the gear people have they still have no clue how to play a dps drake in oculus |
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| 20:06.20 | zenzelezz | I've only ever used red drake |
| 20:06.34 | KarlKFI|work | people avoid occulus |
| 20:06.53 | olafski | I did all 3.. but you'd think that a pure dps class would know how to do a dps drake :< even just reading the tooltips would make it apparent that you need to actually release those stacks once you get enough of them |
| 20:07.05 | olafski | I guess some people still avoid oculus yeah |
| 20:07.10 | olafski | I rejoice when I get it :) |
| 20:07.20 | foxlit | olafski: what is this mysterious "reading" you speak of? |
| 20:07.22 | KarlKFI|work | especially raiders that dont have to do heroics for gear |
| 20:07.43 | zenzelezz | olafski: hey, this is Oculus - not some easy ride like Malygos! ;-p |
| 20:08.18 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbiDgfJlRdM :D |
| 20:08.19 | foxlit | gah, raiding interrupted my sc2 match :( |
| 20:08.45 | kd3 | sighs some more at the sc2 installer |
| 20:09.17 | olafski | karlkfi|work: are you saying they're doing the heroics for fun? |
| 20:10.05 | KarlKFI|work | no, tokens |
| 20:10.24 | olafski | which they spend on.. |
| 20:10.29 | olafski | gear? |
| 20:10.35 | KarlKFI|work | gear to augment the gear they get raiding |
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| 20:11.07 | olafski | while us mortals do heroics for triumph tokens to augment the gear we get crafting.. ;) |
| 20:11.09 | Fisker | btw kd3 |
| 20:11.12 | olafski | ergo we all do it for the gear |
| 20:11.13 | Fisker | how is SC2? |
| 20:11.25 | KarlKFI|work | seriously tho, at this point, everyone just plays for gear |
| 20:11.35 | ckknight | what's the best way to colorize lua code in WoW? |
| 20:11.45 | cog|work | FAIAP |
| 20:11.49 | KarlKFI|work | ^^ |
| 20:11.52 | ckknight | hey kd3, you're North American, btw? |
| 20:11.58 | KarlKFI|work | ~faiap |
| 20:11.59 | Adys | Why isn't there any felweed in felwood? |
| 20:12.02 | kd3 | ya ckk |
| 20:12.08 | cog|work | For All Indents and Purposes |
| 20:12.10 | kd3 | I'm outside of atlanta |
| 20:12.13 | KarlKFI|work | !g For All Indents And Purposes |
| 20:12.13 | batbot | KarlKFI|work: Paragraph - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paragraph> |
| 20:12.18 | cog|work | (by krka ) |
| 20:12.18 | KarlKFI|work | fail |
| 20:12.26 | ckknight | kd3: oh yea |
| 20:12.26 | KarlKFI|work | !g "For All Indents And Purposes" |
| 20:12.27 | batbot | KarlKFI|work: WowLua : WoWInterface Downloads : Developer Utilities <http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info7366-WowLua.html> |
| 20:12.29 | cog|work | it's used in WoWLua |
| 20:13.13 | Kraps | Adys: theres enough nasty shit there |
| 20:13.20 | olafski | that's the point I was trying to make karlkfi|work :P |
| 20:13.55 | KarlKFI|work | well, until they added the random daily dungion LFD thing most people avoided oculus |
| 20:14.09 | Kraps | ^ |
| 20:14.36 | Kraps | but leaving when you get it is utter fail |
| 20:14.58 | olafski | always someone who does that |
| 20:15.06 | olafski | this time we got to the first boss before the hunter got off his mount |
| 20:15.07 | Kraps | havent gotten it in a while |
| 20:15.20 | olafski | he did actually follow us manually though |
| 20:15.36 | amro | KarlKFI|work: they still avoid it |
| 20:15.41 | Kraps | mostly do only 1 lfd a say |
| 20:15.54 | Adys | http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2010/02/makeup-girl-living-breathing-painting/ |
| 20:15.57 | Kraps | day* |
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| 20:17.05 | Kraps | OS drops EoT right? |
| 20:17.41 | Fisker | yes |
| 20:17.44 | KarlKFI|work | Adys: you just linked it cause there's cleavage, didn't you |
| 20:17.55 | Adys | sure |
| 20:19.19 | mikma | http://oddee.com/item_96806.aspx <- odd contact lenses |
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| 20:20.11 | WobWork | ugh |
| 20:20.13 | WobWork | golive =P |
| 20:20.20 | alestane | "They put a virtual pet in your *car*, and it changes the way people drive." |
| 20:20.52 | WobWork | Yo dawg, I heard you like dawgs while you drive, so we put a dawg in your car so you can dawg with your dawg while you drive, dawg? |
| 20:22.48 | cog|work | what do directed acyclic word graphs have to do with anything? |
| 20:25.08 | WobWork | cog|work: that's either a very meta ironic statement.. or a very random one |
| 20:25.28 | WobWork | (or I came into the conversation at an odd time) |
| 20:25.44 | cog|work | DAWK |
| 20:25.47 | cog|work | dawg* |
| 20:26.22 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.3.x ToC: 30300 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | "what do directed acyclic word graphs have to do with anything?" - cogwheel |
| 20:26.39 | cog|work | chuckles |
| 20:28.18 | Fisker | cog|work |
| 20:28.26 | alestane | http://notalwaysright.com/catcher-in-the-sky/4417 |
| 20:28.26 | cog|work | Fisker |
| 20:28.33 | lebqzz | hmm |
| 20:28.47 | lebqzz | any small gudes on how to use oUF |
| 20:29.18 | Fisker | cog|work |
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| 20:29.45 | kd3 | ouch. I laughed, then winced... "Killer whale at SeaWorld finally lives up to the hype" |
| 20:30.17 | Cairenn | ? |
| 20:30.31 | kd3 | details are light but it looks like a trainer got killed |
| 20:30.36 | Cairenn | :( |
| 20:30.37 | lebqzz | lol |
| 20:30.47 | alestane | ....oops. |
| 20:30.52 | lebqzz | by accident or frenzy |
| 20:30.58 | kd3 | http://www.clickorlando.com/news/22659901/detail.html |
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| 20:31.44 | lebqzz | sweet.. |
| 20:31.55 | lebqzz | now those nature fucks can learn that its a dangerous animal |
| 20:32.34 | nevcairiel | seriously, try to imprison a big predator like that, and expect to be eaten at some point |
| 20:32.57 | lebqzz | hmm nevcairiel rephrase.. do you think the expect it? |
| 20:33.06 | nevcairiel | they should |
| 20:33.09 | alestane | nevcairiel: Consider HOW LONG aquariums have gone so far without a random outburst of violence like this one. |
| 20:33.22 | nevcairiel | alestane: was about time, maybe they'll stop doing it now :) |
| 20:33.30 | lebqzz | thanks for all the fish... now I'm hungry for HUUMMMAAANNN!!!! ;P |
| 20:33.51 | alestane | Trainers have been knocked out of their boats...and completely ignored by the whale who wanted the salmon inside. |
| 20:34.39 | nevcairiel | i'm not against zoos in general, for the typical land animal they are not that cruel, but dolphins or orcas .. they are used to traveling vast distances in the ocean, imprisoning them in a tiny pool is just cruel |
| 20:35.16 | alestane | And I'm curious to see if they'll come to any conclusions about what provoked it. |
| 20:35.28 | kd3 | "killer whale was hungry"? |
| 20:35.38 | lebqzz | probalby the trainer itself so the avoid the Lawsuits from family |
| 20:35.41 | alestane | Or if something like the extended confinement did indeed turn it unstable. |
| 20:35.59 | alestane | kd3: They keep these animals well-fed as a rule. |
| 20:36.13 | kd3 | oh I know. I was there just a few months ago |
| 20:36.26 | Arrowmaster | more details would be nice, like how long that whale had been there and if it was being trained or if it was already trained and had previously been used for some of the shows they have there |
| 20:36.29 | alestane | A predator with a full belly is a very different creature from what that's a bit hungry. |
| 20:37.24 | alestane | Also, there's no indication whether the whale made any attempt to eat the body or not, which would be fairly indicative. |
| 20:38.17 | nevcairiel | sure, a hungry lion will just eat you, while a lion that just ate a gazelle won't bother to look up from his stone |
| 20:38.38 | Arrowmaster | especially if the stone is warm |
| 20:38.53 | Arrowmaster | cats are cats |
| 20:38.55 | WobWork | mmm |
| 20:38.56 | WobWork | warmstone |
| 20:41.42 | alestane | As the technology generation and the college hedonists continue to collide: "you were so high that you made a 14 page PowerPoint on why Santa would beat Peter pan in a fight. " |
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| 20:47.29 | Kraps | killer whales are win |
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| 20:50.23 | WobWork | ugh |
| 20:50.33 | WobWork | 2MB bmp screenshots |
| 20:50.44 | alestane | Random thought: how does the C++ runtime know whether a static local variable has been initialized already or not? |
| 20:51.14 | zenzelezz | magic |
| 20:51.43 | lebqzz | are there no guild on how to use oUF? |
| 20:51.44 | amro | alestane: I guess that might be implementation specific |
| 20:52.39 | nevcairiel | static variables have space reserved in the data segment, and that can be initialized or not |
| 20:53.33 | nevcairiel | they get allocated in the data segment the first time your function is called |
| 20:53.42 | nevcairiel | and thus initialized |
| 20:54.18 | alestane | So there must be some association between the function and its data space. |
| 20:54.22 | krka | hm? someone said my name in here? |
| 20:55.39 | Fisker | Â |
| 20:56.02 | nevcairiel | alestane: if you really care, generate the assembly of a very simple proc, and look at it =) |
| 20:56.07 | krka | ah, faiap stuff... |
| 20:56.44 | Kraps | ~dict placebo |
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| 21:01.19 | Kraps | ~dict set |
| 21:01.55 | Kraps | (1 of 56) :D |
| 21:02.09 | DWSR | Kraps: the bot supports privmsgs. |
| 21:02.29 | amro | technically, these are PRIVMSGs as well |
| 21:03.54 | durcyn | non-channel privmsgs, pedantobear. |
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| 21:11.17 | lebqzz | noone knows? |
| 21:11.39 | alestane | !g oUF |
| 21:11.40 | batbot | alestane: oUF : WoWInterface Downloads : oUF: Core <http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info9994-oUF.html> |
| 21:12.09 | alestane | Isn't there some way to make one of the bots link a Google search? |
| 21:12.27 | kd3 | so steam's using chromium |
| 21:12.27 | kd3 | hrm |
| 21:12.35 | kd3 | http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Chromium_Embedded_Framework |
| 21:12.38 | nevcairiel | alestane: i just generated the assembly with gcc, and its simply creating a local symbolname that it allocates memory to and initializes directly in the data segment, not on first function call, if you still care =) |
| 21:13.18 | alestane | So it's initializing it at load time, not at first call. |
| 21:13.33 | nevcairiel | indeed |
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| 21:13.47 | alestane | I'm switching to an object-based implementation anyway, so it doesn't affect em. |
| 21:13.48 | alestane | me* |
| 21:13.54 | nevcairiel | but that may still be implementation dependant, this is just how gcc does it |
| 21:14.34 | nevcairiel | I should rehash my assembler knowledge more often, took me a while to understand the output properly |
| 21:14.59 | alestane | I only really ever knew any assembly for the 68k chips. |
| 21:15.11 | nevcairiel | plus gcc uses AT&T syntax, and i originally learned the intel syntax |
| 21:16.03 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/latest |
| 21:16.05 | Adys | new spells and achievements |
| 21:16.11 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/a/4790/zalazanes-fall/ |
| 21:22.41 | lebqzz | i still cant find a easy faw to get started on Ouf.. or is that in the core |
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| 21:26.21 | Lopeppeppy | all done with stupid work vpn. yay |
| 21:26.36 | Cairenn | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 21:26.53 | alestane | WTB Peppy ba...o hey. |
| 21:28.16 | Cide | gold medal to sweden |
| 21:28.18 | Cide | suck it, norway! |
| 21:29.30 | krka | indeed! |
| 21:29.39 | krka | i think norway is still ahead though |
| 21:29.50 | Arrowmaster | http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=19444 |
| 21:29.58 | Arrowmaster | yeah steam beta is fucked in wine |
| 21:30.13 | Kraps | CHAR_LOGIN_LOCKED_BY_MOBILE_AH = "You cannot log in while using the mobile or web auction house."; |
| 21:30.20 | Arrowmaster | im getting the little popups of it saying stuff has finished downloading but i cant get any of the ui to show |
| 21:30.33 | amro | Arrowmaster: it uses some fucked up custom rendered |
| 21:30.39 | amro | s/rendered/renderer/ |
| 21:31.38 | Arrowmaster | guess im going to have to end up using the winehq.org packages too since it seems the debian maintainer is either awol or gave up |
| 21:31.40 | Adys | http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/02/serious-threat-to-web-in-italy.html |
| 21:31.55 | Cairenn | in case anyone missed it - Blizz has said that code compression is a no no, same as obfuscation: http://bit.ly/c46pop |
| 21:32.54 | Arrowmaster | so popcap games are not allowed anymore? |
| 21:32.59 | Cairenn | they are |
| 21:33.07 | Cairenn | they got an exception |
| 21:33.12 | Arrowmaster | did they stop using luasrcdiet? |
| 21:33.13 | Arrowmaster | oh |
| 21:33.14 | Cairenn | as did Carbonite |
| 21:33.22 | Arrowmaster | why carbonite? |
| 21:33.31 | Cairenn | "It is Blizzard's opinion that this falls under the "no obfuscation" rule and as such is not allowed except with specific permission from Blizzard." |
| 21:33.33 | Cairenn | I don't know |
| 21:33.36 | Adys | http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.com/2010/02/dev-channel-update_24.html |
| 21:33.39 | Cairenn | I just know that they got okayed |
| 21:34.16 | Arrowmaster | wait carbonite is still using something to obfuscate? is it using luasrcdiet too now or something? |
| 21:34.25 | amro | oh wait, we're not supposed to mod MPQs? what do I do with all my hacked terrain and models? |
| 21:34.30 | Cairenn | that isn't what I said |
| 21:34.47 | Shadowed | Does anyone else instantly directed to a login page then bac to: http://eu.wowarmory.com/battlegroups.xml? when visiting? |
| 21:35.01 | Cairenn | Carbonite is compressed (not obfuscated), and they have been okayed |
| 21:35.12 | Shadowed | Pretty sure Carbonite is obfuscated :P |
| 21:35.27 | Shadowed | maybe not in the strictest terms of using iIIiiIIiii |
| 21:35.48 | Cairenn | they were, they cleaned it up sufficiently enough to be acceptable to Blizz |
| 21:35.54 | Shadowed | ah |
| 21:36.08 | nevcairiel | I still dont get why you would "compress" your code anyway |
| 21:36.22 | nevcairiel | in a zip, it wont matter |
| 21:36.24 | Shadowed | Because by removing all spaces and comments, you speed up loading nevcairiel!!! |
| 21:36.26 | Cairenn | I know, because I'm the one that went back and forth between them going "fix it" "is this enough?" "no, fix it more" "okay, how about now?" |
| 21:36.48 | amro | Adys: I blame berlusconi |
| 21:36.50 | Arrowmaster | why did you do it? |
| 21:36.58 | Cairenn | why did I do what? |
| 21:37.02 | Cairenn | go between? |
| 21:37.02 | krka | i am not sure why compressing does not count as obfuscating |
| 21:37.05 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 21:37.08 | Cairenn | because I was asked by Blizz to do so :) |
| 21:37.10 | nevcairiel | If compression includes renaming variables and functions to have shorter meaningless names, its obfuscation, imho |
| 21:37.13 | Arrowmaster | ok |
| 21:37.14 | Adys | it does krka |
| 21:37.20 | nevcairiel | if its just removes comments and whitespace, sure |
| 21:37.23 | nevcairiel | i can reverse that |
| 21:37.31 | krka | you can reverse removal of comments? |
| 21:37.37 | Arrowmaster | nevcairiel: what if you code it using short meaningless names? |
| 21:37.41 | amro | yes, nobody comments anyway |
| 21:37.52 | amro | Arrowmaster: then you're obfuscating it from the getgo |
| 21:37.53 | krka | Arrowmaster: that's fine then |
| 21:38.10 | krka | the problem is distributing in another format compared to how you develop it |
| 21:38.23 | Shadowed | I'd hate to debug an addon that's been compressed |
| 21:38.27 | Arrowmaster | really this falls more under having to interpret intent |
| 21:38.27 | Adys | imho as long as you also provide a tool to reverse the obfuscation/compression, or the original and a tool to obfuscate/compress it |
| 21:38.30 | Adys | it should be fine |
| 21:38.38 | amro | krka: the problem is obfuscating it, regardless of when or how or why |
| 21:38.41 | Shadowed | "Oh yea, I have an error at line 1!" |
| 21:38.48 | Arrowmaster | you know something the court system seems to have forgotten it used to try to do |
| 21:38.57 | nevcairiel | obfuscation cant really be reversed, unless you provide a big lookup table for the real function names |
| 21:39.00 | amro | Shadowed: column 12787! |
| 21:39.03 | Adys | Shadowed: I think variable xv8a is nil |
| 21:39.09 | krka | amro: sure, i just meant for determining whether something should be considered obfuscated or not |
| 21:39.29 | amro | I'd say FeralByNight is obfuscated |
| 21:39.29 | Shadowed | It depends what you mean by reversed nevcairiel, I've "reversed" Popcaps games or Bangz before to figure out how they work, but it takes a bit and it's mostly pointless |
| 21:39.47 | Arrowmaster | the bang stuff was easy |
| 21:39.48 | Shadowed | but if you mean the original code, then yea |
| 21:39.49 | krka | my definition is: if the author distributes it exactly like he's actively editing it, it's not obfuscated |
| 21:40.01 | krka | regardless of how crappy the code is :P |
| 21:40.02 | nevcairiel | Shadowed: sure you can, but understanding the code is much more complicated if you just have one letter variables all around |
| 21:40.05 | Shadowed | There's only like 4 obfuscated addons, I don't exactly have much to pull off of Arrowmaster :P |
| 21:40.05 | Adys | yeah krka but you can never really know |
| 21:40.14 | krka | sure, the problem is of course proving it |
| 21:40.58 | amro | "No really, I name all my variables in random alphanumeric strings!" |
| 21:41.41 | Shadowed | I did that once, the instructor was not amused |
| 21:42.25 | Arrowmaster | if we still had math.randomseed() i could probably make your head spin using that along with setfenv() |
| 21:42.30 | Thaoky | in the last company I worked for, the 20-year-old code was made of variables that were all 8 letters long, and all caps, talk about a nightmare to read x) |
| 21:42.36 | Shadowed | I thought we did, it just didn't do anything? |
| 21:42.48 | Arrowmaster | no the function is completely gone |
| 21:43.46 | nevcairiel | Thaoky: coder probably came from some ancient language that required variables in upper case :d |
| 21:44.44 | Thaoky | nev: yeah, partially. In fact, they did that to standardize variables (all globals !) across the ERP modules. Made sense then, unreadable, unmaintainable today |
| 21:44.54 | Adys | Did you know |
| 21:45.23 | Adys | Blizzard created more spells the past 3 major patches than they did for the first 16 major patches of the game |
| 21:45.35 | nevcairiel | fascinating! |
| 21:45.45 | nevcairiel | now give the class changes, and/or the post about cata itemization changes |
| 21:45.55 | Adys | druids get starfall buffed. |
| 21:46.13 | amro | druids need better boomkin sfx |
| 21:46.20 | amro | makes me want to stab them in the gut |
| 21:46.23 | Adys | Wuuhiruuuruh |
| 21:46.25 | Adys | Wuuhiruuuruhaa |
| 21:46.31 | Adys | Wuuhiruuuruh ruuuubh |
| 21:46.39 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 21:46.39 | amro | but stabbing them causes more noise |
| 21:46.51 | nevcairiel | i cant wait for the new tree and boomkin models, hope they get them in 4.0 |
| 21:46.53 | Adys | ahuuurhrh |
| 21:47.23 | Adys | fuck it |
| 21:47.45 | Adys | theres no changes for mages this patch :( |
| 21:47.57 | Adys | oh there is |
| 21:48.04 | Adys | combustion buff |
| 21:48.09 | Adys | .. great. |
| 21:48.49 | nevcairiel | hey natures grasp with charges, that could be kinda useful |
| 21:49.44 | nevcairiel | Heh |
| 21:49.49 | nevcairiel | they nerfed holiday boss farming |
| 21:50.26 | foxlit | yes. That was more or less predictable since the moment they said "you can only queue for them through the dungeon finder" |
| 21:51.02 | nevcairiel | its kinda a buff too, though |
| 21:51.12 | nevcairiel | everyone gets their own loot jar to look into for a mount |
| 21:51.16 | nevcairiel | don't have to share one boss loot |
| 21:51.38 | Adys | i suppose it's a decent fix to something inherently broken |
| 21:51.45 | Adys | i just wish holidays werent about boss farming |
| 21:51.48 | nevcairiel | and you can do them as often as you wish for their other epics loot |
| 21:52.02 | olafski | so you only need to kill those damn bosses once now? |
| 21:52.08 | Adys | yes olafski |
| 21:52.09 | nevcairiel | per day |
| 21:52.10 | olafski | awesome |
| 21:52.21 | olafski | only did the SFK bosses once total but still |
| 21:52.29 | Adys | lunar festival is a nice example of a successful holiday |
| 21:52.30 | nevcairiel | i didnt do them at all |
| 21:52.38 | Adys | it lasts long, theres lots of shit to do and it doesnt involve farming loot |
| 21:52.40 | nevcairiel | its not part of the meta, and i was lazy |
| 21:53.54 | olafski | yeah dunno why I did it either |
| 21:54.17 | olafski | but that jar thing is nice then.. no more "you couldn't summon you douche, you made us waste an attempt" etc |
| 21:55.09 | olafski | they sure are making it easy though.. queue up, be teleported within a stone throw of the boss, kill him and teleport back to dalaran |
| 21:55.30 | foxlit | http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30433&page=3 |
| 21:55.44 | nevcairiel | stone throw or not, its always low level instances anyway |
| 21:55.56 | nevcairiel | well most of the time, anyway |
| 21:56.01 | olafski | sure but previously you had to fly/walk there, get to the right spot and kill it 5 times |
| 21:56.10 | Cairenn | tekkub: ROFL |
| 21:56.26 | Cairenn | tekkub: you literally made me lol with that |
| 21:57.09 | foxlit | <3 sc2 matchmaking |
| 21:59.50 | tekkub | ^^ |
| 21:59.59 | alestane | I'll have to try playing an actual person at some point. |
| 22:00.32 | alestane | Maybe there are sufficient newbs available that I won't get completely steamrollered. |
| 22:01.08 | tlund | what is the right way to convert item:50028:0:0:0:0:0:0:2010431488:80 into a clickable link when i print it in a chat window? |
| 22:01.29 | nevcairiel | just patch the tags around it |
| 22:01.35 | tlund | ok, thanks |
| 22:01.48 | Shadowed | Easiest would be to just call GetItemInfo, which should preserve the metadata |
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| 22:02.28 | tlund | Shadowed: yeah, i was looking at GetItemInfo() but that would mean having to use select() and stuff |
| 22:02.41 | Shadowed | Why can't you use select? |
| 22:02.50 | nevcairiel | local _, itemLink = GetItemInfo("item:.....") |
| 22:02.53 | nevcairiel | no select :P |
| 22:03.06 | Shadowed | that too |
| 22:03.16 | tlund | oh. yeah, that works aswell i guess :) |
| 22:03.32 | tlund | that was pretty obvious actually, i must be tired :/ |
| 22:04.10 | Shadowed | is still curious why you can't use select |
| 22:04.29 | tlund | well |
| 22:04.55 | tlund | i was looking for a way to just do print "blah blah " .. GetItemInfo(item) |
| 22:05.18 | tlund | but i dont know how to concatinate with the second return value |
| 22:05.23 | Gagorian | print "blah blah " .. select(2,GetItemInfo(item)) isn't much more complex+ |
| 22:05.25 | Fisker | hey Shadowed |
| 22:05.28 | Fisker | it's Fisker time |
| 22:05.33 | tlund | Gagorian: that didnt work for me |
| 22:06.49 | Gagorian | lua> function x() return "1", "2" end; print("blah blah " .. select(2,x())) |
| 22:06.49 | lua_bot | Gagorian: blah blah 2 |
| 22:06.59 | alestane | "I remember what George said and vowed that rather than let Alzheimer's take me, I would take it. I would live my life as ever to the full and die, before the disease mounted its last attack, in my own home, in a chair on the lawn, with a brandy in my hand to wash down whatever modern version of the "Brompton cocktail" some helpful medic could supply. And with Thomas Tallis on my iPod, I would shake hands with Death." |
| 22:07.02 | Shadowed | Fisker is that the time where I ban you |
| 22:07.07 | Shadowed | and the channel rejoices |
| 22:07.13 | Shadowed | and I get a medal and a noble prize |
| 22:07.14 | Fisker | wrong on both accounts |
| 22:07.15 | Gagorian | DO IT |
| 22:07.21 | tlund | im trying it in wow with /script print "blah: " .. select(2,GetItemInfo(item:50028:0:0:0:0:0:0:2010431488:80)) |
| 22:07.22 | Shadowed | Are you sure, that's what it sounded like! |
| 22:07.22 | Fisker | NO DADDY NO |
| 22:07.51 | Gagorian | tlund: Well that's not going to work like that |
| 22:07.59 | tlund | Gagorian: why? :( |
| 22:09.05 | Gagorian | you can't use print like that, plus you the item thingie needs quotes |
| 22:10.27 | tlund | yeah, actually, i put the quotes in |
| 22:10.33 | tlund | and /script print "foo" works fine |
| 22:10.46 | nevcairiel | your print needs some ( ) action |
| 22:10.50 | tlund | but yeah, the string concatination doesnt work |
| 22:10.58 | tlund | ah |
| 22:11.06 | tlund | /script print ("foo" .. " bar) |
| 22:11.08 | nevcairiel | print "foo" is an exception due to luas silly syntax things |
| 22:11.08 | tlund | thanks :) |
| 22:11.12 | Adys | any subtlety rogue around? |
| 22:11.20 | Fisker | lol, no. |
| 22:11.22 | Fisker | :3 |
| 22:11.31 | tlund | plus the missing " |
| 22:11.32 | tlund | :) |
| 22:11.56 | tlund | thanks |
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| 22:15.18 | kd3 | ... a popup dialog to bid for crap on the AH? |
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| 22:19.14 | amro | who bids anymore? |
| 22:21.13 | kd3 | emails away |
| 22:21.20 | amro | hurray |
| 22:22.59 | nevcairiel | quest items get marked as such in the inventory now, eh |
| 22:23.12 | Shadowed | Popup is probably to stop people from bidding on high priced items accidentally? |
| 22:23.13 | kd3 | ah, crap. was going to mention that |
| 22:24.24 | Shadowed | +StartAuction(startPrice, buyoutPrice, AuctionFrameAuctions.duration, AuctionsStackSizeEntry:GetNumber(), AuctionsNumStacksEntry:GetNumber()); |
| 22:24.28 | Shadowed | whoo |
| 22:25.43 | kd3 | and heh. element 112's name is Copernicium, Cn |
| 22:26.12 | Shadowed | +ERR_AUCTION_LIMITED_DURATION_ITEM = "You cannot auction items with a limited duration."; too |
| 22:26.28 | kd3 | er... hasn't that always been the case? |
| 22:26.41 | Shadowed | yea, they just added an error for it I guess? |
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| 22:27.18 | Shadowed | It's your diff, I blame you :p |
| 22:27.37 | Gnarfoz | !api startauction |
| 22:27.38 | lua_bot | StartAuction: Creates an auction for the item currently in the "auction item" slot (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/StartAuction) |
| 22:27.53 | Shadowed | 4th and 5th are the new ones |
| 22:28.26 | Shadowed | hrm |
| 22:28.27 | Shadowed | !api HasLFGRestrictions |
| 22:28.28 | lua_bot | HasLFGRestrictions: This function is not yet documented (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/HasLFGRestrictions) |
| 22:30.10 | tlund | how far out do i REALLY have to quit wow to pick up an new addon? is it enough to quit to the loginscreen? |
| 22:30.18 | kd3 | no |
| 22:30.22 | kd3 | exit wow and restart the client |
| 22:30.28 | nevcairiel | speaking element 112, i just noticed how they named 110 |
| 22:30.30 | nevcairiel | thats just silly |
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| 22:30.31 | Fisker | probably related to the stuff about kicking |
| 22:35.52 | Ackis | US vs Swiss score? anyone have it? |
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| 22:36.53 | Ackis | bah |
| 22:37.00 | Ackis | USA 2, SUI 0 :( |
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| 22:39.17 | airtonix | anyone familiar with GNS3 on linux and where would you get IOS images ? |
| 22:39.39 | airtonix | some reason i'm here ...not sure if its the right place though : ftp://ftp.cisco.com/pub/lan/catalyst/ |
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| 22:44.01 | Ackis | Cairenn: did Clara Hughs get a medal today? I see the results, just not sure if those are the final ones |
| 22:44.19 | Cairenn | yes, she just got Bronze |
| 22:44.27 | Ackis | good for her |
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| 22:45.32 | Cairenn | yeah, good way for her to end her career |
| 22:46.01 | Ackis | I was in a 2.5 hour meeting and kept on trying to find the score of US/Swiss and see how she did lol... Twitter saved me kind of. |
| 22:46.12 | Cairenn | heh |
| 22:46.29 | Shadowed | What's character limit on names again, 16? |
| 22:46.31 | Shadowed | for WoW |
| 22:46.34 | alestane | 12 |
| 22:46.53 | Shadowed | kk thanks |
| 22:47.22 | Fisker | this is my lulziest face yet |
| 22:47.23 | Fisker | " i was pernamently banned for national hatred/ww2 reference. because i shouted heil de furher on /y on a german server" ... "wich means your breaking the law by banning me and i know some of the best lawyers in the uk. all i want is my money refunded on the account OBLACKICHANOO for wow and the expansions you can keep the game time. " |
| 22:47.26 | Lopeppeppy | Okie dokie, expecting my guest star in about half hour, so I'm logging out for now. |
| 22:47.33 | Ackis | I had a good talk with tekkub during that meeting luls |
| 22:47.37 | Ackis | and Shadowed |
| 22:47.38 | Ackis | grats |
| 22:47.41 | Ackis | on wowi mod stuff |
| 22:47.46 | Shadowed | thanks |
| 22:47.50 | Kraps | Vitality: Now boosts Stamina by 3/6/9%, up from 2/4/6%. Strength and expertise benefits have not changed. |
| 22:47.54 | Kraps | meh |
| 22:47.54 | Shadowed | I can ban Fisker now, which is the only reason I accepted it |
| 22:48.04 | Shadowed | good trade off in my opinion |
| 22:48.12 | durcyn | ban fisker now |
| 22:48.39 | Ackis | well played good sir |
| 22:50.40 | Ackis | as you can tell, I got a lot done in said 2.5 hour meeting |
| 22:51.06 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=12730402928&sid=1 <-original topic |
| 22:52.01 | jnwhiteh | how long do we think 3.3 is going to be on PTR? |
| 22:52.06 | jnwhiteh | is it worth me updating and then running the API scan? |
| 22:52.18 | Cairenn | heh, Clara's bronze is all but overshadowing the silver and gold |
| 22:52.32 | Ackis | she went through hell didn't she? |
| 22:52.41 | Kraps | Fisker: epic |
| 22:52.48 | Ackis | Fisker: tbh I'd love to see someone sue blizz over their ToS/banning |
| 22:53.05 | Shadowed | jnwhiteh: A little bit I'd imagine? They've been doing some tweaks stll |
| 22:53.10 | Ackis | especially that they entered the business of real life stuff == ingame stuff |
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| 22:53.26 | Shadowed | added some new content as well and doing LFG tweaks |
| 22:53.26 | Fisker | What point would that have anyway? |
| 22:53.36 | Fisker | "yipee you get 15-60 euro back" |
| 22:53.47 | Ackis | Fisker: spectral tigers cost upwards of $1000 |
| 22:54.36 | Fisker | so? |
| 22:54.45 | Ackis | I have a spectral tiger, original CE, I get banned, therefore I'm out $2k -> reason to sue |
| 22:54.57 | Ackis | ToSes need to be challenged in court |
| 22:54.57 | Fisker | why you got banned? |
| 22:55.34 | Ackis | just saying that it's grounds to :P |
| 22:55.57 | nevcairiel | real life stuff = ingame stuff? where? |
| 22:56.23 | Cairenn | wait, what, you got banned Ackis?! |
| 22:56.24 | Fisker | as long as it isn't actual performance enhancing stuff i don't care |
| 22:56.45 | airtonix | i dont think blizzard sell spectral tigers for 1000$ |
| 22:56.48 | nevcairiel | If you manage to get banned, its your own damn fault |
| 22:57.00 | Kraps | Ackis: WHY to ToSs need to be challenged in court? |
| 22:57.27 | Ackis | Cairenn: no, I'm not banned, I was trying to be hypothetical with Fisker and that failed miserably |
| 22:57.30 | Bruners | Fisker: why did you shout that on a german server |
| 22:57.33 | Cairenn | ahhhhh |
| 22:57.36 | Cairenn | okay |
| 22:57.56 | Ackis | just saying the cross of real life money for products into the digital world opens up new issues |
| 22:58.14 | Cairenn | staying out of that one |
| 22:58.15 | airtonix | hi, i like to counterfeit super nintendo games and sell them on the street corner, but since i was caught im out twenty thousand dollars a month and plan to sue nintendo for having me sued for copyright infringement since im loosing alot of mony every month |
| 22:58.19 | durcyn | EULAs need to be challenged in court because they're 1) bullshit and 2) not legally binding, and more people need to realize this |
| 22:59.04 | alestane | Ackis: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/6/25/ |
| 22:59.11 | nevcairiel | I don't think any court can actually force blizzard to let you play your account |
| 22:59.31 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 22:59.40 | nevcairiel | If blizzard trys to sue you based on their EULA/ToS, thats another thing |
| 22:59.53 | Ackis | well for example a lot of ToSes require you to use binding arbitration which is illegal to force upon people (just an example) |
| 22:59.55 | nevcairiel | but you sueing blizzard for being banned? not seeing a win there |
| 23:00.04 | airtonix | woops rm /var/wow-server/users/ackis/ -rf |
| 23:00.10 | Fisker | exactly nevcairiel |
| 23:00.28 | durcyn | which TOS line item did you violate, Ackis |
| 23:00.35 | Ackis | durcyn: none! |
| 23:00.37 | Ackis | I'm not banned! |
| 23:00.38 | Fisker | At best i guess you could get them to refund the subscription |
| 23:00.38 | Ackis | ahhhh |
| 23:00.41 | Ackis | assholes! |
| 23:00.44 | Shadowed | Ackis: got banned?! |
| 23:00.45 | airtonix | lol |
| 23:00.47 | airtonix | yes |
| 23:00.50 | Fisker | why so banned Ackis ? |
| 23:00.56 | Bruners | :D |
| 23:00.56 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 23:00.56 | Ackis | did you hear that tourguide was taken down? |
| 23:00.57 | Ackis | :P |
| 23:00.59 | nevcairiel | Shadowed: not yet, but you can do it now! |
| 23:01.10 | Shadowed | but I like Ackis |
| 23:01.27 | nevcairiel | attaches a picture of Fisker to Ackis' Face |
| 23:01.33 | Zyonin | Well, time for some sleep. See y'all tomarrow |
| 23:01.43 | Fisker | don't troll me bro |
| 23:01.54 | Cairenn | night Zyonin, sweet dreams |
| 23:02.12 | Kraps | [06:01:06]<Ackis>did you hear that tourguide was taken down?<----- this makes me laugh now like a legit meme |
| 23:04.34 | Ackis | I wonder what my account is worth |
| 23:04.59 | durcyn | canadian accounts aren't worth the tree bark they're scribbled in |
| 23:05.00 | zenzelezz | reports Ackis |
| 23:05.11 | Shadowed | Thinking like this is why you got banned Ackis |
| 23:05.14 | Bruners | Ackis: you wouldnt |
| 23:05.41 | Kraps | Ackis: whats on it |
| 23:06.00 | Ackis | spectral tiger, chicken, rocket mount, turtle mount, all the TCG pets, Gurky, blizzcon bear, murloc suit, all UDE tabards, firework trinket, ogre thingy, all three CE's, the two blizz store pets, over 100 pets/mounts total, over 40 factions |
| 23:06.06 | Ackis | that's all on one character |
| 23:06.23 | zenzelezz | I'd say it's worth about $15/month |
| 23:06.36 | Kraps | i'll make you an offer you cant refuse |
| 23:06.38 | Ackis | it's inactive :P I don't play! |
| 23:06.47 | Ackis | (because I was banned iknowright) |
| 23:06.51 | Shadowed | I'll make you an offer you can refuse, but with a threat attached |
| 23:07.02 | Gagorian | I wouldn't pay $15 a month for that |
| 23:07.05 | Kraps | why were you banned? |
| 23:07.16 | Ackis | oh I also have all of tier 0.5 !!!! |
| 23:07.25 | Bruners | he insulted some danish people on a spanish server |
| 23:07.43 | KarlKFI|work | tier 0.5 ftl |
| 23:07.50 | Ackis | you want to fuck with people download esMX and link stuff to them |
| 23:07.54 | KarlKFI|work | purple paladins lol |
| 23:07.55 | Bruners | as in dungeon 2 ? |
| 23:08.01 | Ackis | Bruners: yes |
| 23:08.12 | Bruners | had that on my hunter |
| 23:08.27 | Ackis | I have all my tier 0.5 -> 8 gear on my toon in its bank I think |
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| 23:08.35 | Kraps | Ackis: http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=33357 > http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=42777 |
| 23:08.39 | Kraps | the end |
| 23:08.54 | Ackis | I have sandbox tigers and the spectral kitten :P |
| 23:09.35 | Ackis | http://i50.tinypic.com/2w3qot1.jpg |
| 23:09.39 | nevcairiel | heh youtube is dropping IE6 support in about 3 weeks, good times |
| 23:09.48 | Ackis | I redeemed the spectral kitten about 2 days before I stopped logging in lol |
| 23:09.53 | Ackis | good waste of $300 |
| 23:10.09 | Fisker | thought you said it was $1000 worth |
| 23:10.09 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 23:10.17 | Bruners | guess i will have to upgrade my browser then :( |
| 23:10.17 | cog|work | do want android authenticator app *sigh* |
| 23:10.24 | Ackis | spectral kitten != spectral tiger Fisker |
| 23:10.25 | Fisker | why so sigh cog|work ? |
| 23:10.26 | zenzelezz | cog|work: so download it? |
| 23:10.30 | Shadowed | Did you buy all of these Ackis |
| 23:10.33 | Fisker | don't have an android phone? |
| 23:10.47 | Kraps | omg i wont be able to not use youtube at work nevcairiel! |
| 23:10.49 | cog|work | there's only one for iphone, no? |
| 23:10.52 | zenzelezz | no |
| 23:10.54 | Fisker | lol fail cog|work |
| 23:11.00 | zenzelezz | they released an Android one a week or two ago |
| 23:11.01 | Fisker | l2market |
| 23:11.01 | Ackis | Shadowed: no I played the TCG, there was 1 loot I bought, the rest I pulled/traded for |
| 23:11.12 | Shadowed | ahh |
| 23:11.13 | nevcairiel | cog|work: they added the android app about 2 weeks ago |
| 23:11.16 | Fisker | zenzelezz a _HUNDRED_ years ago |
| 23:11.17 | nevcairiel | check market more often :D |
| 23:11.21 | cog|work | eeenteresting |
| 23:11.33 | cog|work | (the battle.net authenticator faq still says iphone only) |
| 23:11.36 | durcyn | cog|work: http://us.blizzard.com/support/article.xml?locale=en_US&articleId=31126&pageNumber=1&searchQuery=android |
| 23:11.38 | nevcairiel | works fine, too |
| 23:11.40 | Fisker | l2read the android faq |
| 23:11.42 | durcyn | cog|work: http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/news/?d=2010-2#101500 |
| 23:11.47 | nevcairiel | it just yells at you for having a rooted phone |
| 23:11.52 | nevcairiel | if you do, anyway |
| 23:11.58 | airtonix | dont divert the focus from ackis being banned |
| 23:12.09 | Fisker | like anyone would have a rooted phone |
| 23:12.13 | Shirik | I swear, AIM is the only program where clicking "Close" doesn't actually mean "Close" in all 4 places you can do it |
| 23:12.28 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 23:12.31 | Ackis | Shadowed: I got the spectral kitten in a pre-release tourney, so it was about a week before it was released |
| 23:12.48 | airtonix | suspicous |
| 23:12.54 | Shadowed | I wouldn't be very sad if AIM died |
| 23:14.09 | Fisker | darkwing duck |
| 23:14.29 | Thunder_Child | not the only one Shirik |
| 23:14.29 | Ackis | so I don't play wow, don't code addons anymore, why the hell do I hang around here?: P |
| 23:14.29 | Cairenn | :( |
| 23:14.32 | Ackis | Cairenn: you're one of the reasons! |
| 23:14.34 | Cairenn | because you like us? |
| 23:14.42 | Bruners | i don't even know anyone that has ever used AIM |
| 23:14.59 | Bruners | Ackis: you like Fisker to much |
| 23:15.17 | Ackis | Fisker is like my brother from another mother eh? |
| 23:15.23 | Shirik | hello Fisker |
| 23:16.27 | Fisker | :) |
| 23:16.42 | Ackis | Fisker: I got banned from wow :( |
| 23:16.43 | Bruners | btw chromium is quite good |
| 23:16.46 | Thunder_Child | Ackis: then whats that say about your dad |
| 23:20.08 | Ackis | ignores you all and adds people to linked in :P |
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| 23:23.32 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 23:23.48 | Shirik | if you're one of those people that think linkedin is one of those facebook things where more friends = more win, then you will die |
| 23:24.04 | durcyn | linkedin is pure unadulterated crap, more like. |
| 23:24.33 | Ackis | you're my friend on there Shirik! |
| 23:24.37 | *** join/#wowuidev A-KO (as@unaffiliated/a-ko) |
| 23:24.39 | Shirik | I can always remove you |
| 23:24.43 | amro | Shirik: waiting for linkedin to add FarmVille |
| 23:24.51 | Ackis | :( |
| 23:24.56 | amro | and "which X are you" quizzes |
| 23:24.58 | Cairenn | unh, it is, durcyn? I know any number of people who have gotten jobs in the industry via it |
| 23:25.02 | Ackis | I use it to try and network :( |
| 23:25.11 | Shirik | my dad got a trip to London out of it actually |
| 23:25.30 | Shirik | somehow some conference organizer found him on there |
| 23:25.51 | Ackis | http://ca.linkedin.com/in/jpasula go nuts! and with that I'm on my way hoommme |
| 23:27.39 | ckknight | anyone have info on GetContainerItemQuestInfo? |
| 23:28.54 | nevcairiel | isQuestItem, questId, isActive = GetContainerItemQuestInfo(container, slot) |
| 23:29.04 | nevcairiel | dunno what else you want =) |
| 23:30.19 | ckknight | it's new in 3.3.3, right? |
| 23:30.25 | nevcairiel | just hit ptr today |
| 23:30.27 | ckknight | I want it now |
| 23:30.31 | ckknight | hmmph |
| 23:31.47 | WobWork | >< |
| 23:31.54 | WobWork | CATNAPS for 72 points |
| 23:32.20 | WobWork | Intersecting word being 'DOLOURS' |
| 23:32.53 | alestane | on the last letters, I'm guessing. |
| 23:32.58 | WobWork | yeah |
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| 23:35.21 | WobWork | terrible scrabuse |
| 23:35.48 | *** join/#wowuidev DWSR2 (~KVIrc@unaffiliated/dwsr) |
| 23:35.51 | DWSR2 | SHIRIK |
| 23:36.09 | Shirik | what you want me to freak this? |
| 23:36.51 | Thunder_Child | would you like to try that again in english this time Shirik? |
| 23:37.01 | Kraps | "giving this buff to warriors is like a nut kick for the paladins while they are down" |
| 23:37.14 | Kraps | fucking moron is what you are |
| 23:37.16 | DWSR2 | Shirik: BNC won't let me connect. |
| 23:37.19 | *** join/#wowuidev Aniya (ircap@186.140.206.193) |
| 23:37.26 | Shirik | ah right |
| 23:37.33 | Shirik | that would be the firewall I just enabled |
| 23:37.37 | Shirik | what port was that again? |
| 23:37.37 | DWSR2 | lol iptables fail. |
| 23:37.39 | DWSR2 | 1800 |
| 23:38.06 | DWSR2 | You using Snort and fw as well? |
| 23:38.19 | Shirik | snort? |
| 23:38.27 | DWSR2 | yar |
| 23:38.55 | DWSR2 | http://www.snort.org/ |
| 23:39.27 | Shirik | hm, no, I use fail2ban |
| 23:39.33 | nevcairiel | snort only really makes sense on routers |
| 23:39.36 | Shirik | anyway, try to connect now |
| 23:39.38 | DWSR2 | limited authentication attempts? |
| 23:39.48 | Shirik | I go a little further than that, but yes |
| 23:39.52 | DWSR2 | mkay, brb |
| 23:39.52 | nevcairiel | its overkill just to protect ssh |
| 23:39.53 | Shirik | there are even some HTTP requests that will get you banned |
| 23:40.00 | DWSR2 | nevcairiel: Meh. |
| 23:40.07 | Shirik | fail2ban is very powerful and simple |
| 23:40.08 | nevcairiel | besides, i would just turn off ssh password auth |
| 23:40.09 | nevcairiel | and all is good |
| 23:40.13 | Shirik | and I do :) |
| 23:40.17 | Shirik | RSA key only |
| 23:40.37 | DWSR | Shirik: You may now go about your life. |
| 23:41.44 | Sajaki | "there are even some HTTP requests that will get you banned" <-- the wow warden monitors web usage ? |
| 23:41.54 | DWSR | no |
| 23:41.59 | DWSR | He's talking about his server, not WoW |
| 23:42.06 | Sajaki | k |
| 23:42.07 | nevcairiel | i really wonder how anyone can do that associaton |
| 23:42.19 | nevcairiel | its not like we talked about that |
| 23:42.26 | DWSR | idd |
| 23:42.53 | DWSR | !addon Bartender4 |
| 23:43.05 | lua_bot | Bartender4 (v. 4.4.2) last updated Tue Dec 8 15:04 (http://is.gd/974zh) |
| 23:43.23 | DWSR | nevcairiel: I have the strangest bug. |
| 23:43.25 | DWSR | for BT4. |
| 23:43.33 | DWSR | I don't know how in the hell I can even diagnose this for you |
| 23:43.40 | nevcairiel | too bad |
| 23:43.43 | Thunder_Child | http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kyd8lghgFx1qzwya5o1_500.jpg |
| 23:43.46 | *** join/#wowuidev Ginji (~Ginji@cc1040670-a.gorre1.fr.home.nl) |
| 23:44.11 | DWSR | nevcairiel: lemme post a screenie |
| 23:44.41 | nevcairiel | now that my thesis is done i can finally start working on my plans for bartender, though |
| 23:44.51 | Shirik | lolthesis |
| 23:45.31 | nevcairiel | got it finally printed today, handing it in tomorrow, yay free from university ;) |
| 23:45.42 | Shirik | not until it's defended |
| 23:45.59 | nevcairiel | thats just a formularity here |
| 23:46.43 | nevcairiel | formality* |
| 23:46.44 | nevcairiel | :d |
| 23:47.29 | DWSR | nevcairiel: http://hdimage.org/images/llv0kjnqhdqzn49acv6w.png |
| 23:48.19 | nevcairiel | you're one of those paranoid people, eh |
| 23:48.32 | DWSR | ? |
| 23:49.05 | nevcairiel | removing all names from the screenshot :p |
| 23:49.14 | DWSR | *shrug* |
| 23:49.31 | DWSR | Took half a second to do in paint. |
| 23:49.38 | DWSR | It's not like I'm trying to use the fucking blur tool in PS or anything |
| 23:49.44 | DWSR | Some people are really anal about it. |
| 23:50.03 | nevcairiel | I should still hunt that guy down that stole my name |
| 23:50.08 | DWSR | nevcairiel: Anyway, it looks like the bar's just sorta....confused about where it's supposed to be. |
| 23:50.47 | Shirik | {{sofixit}} |
| 23:51.13 | Shirik | Generally when I encounter addon issues, I rarely report them. I just come up with some sort of hack, like /script BartenderFrame:SetPoint( move up 10) |
| 23:51.19 | Shirik | and run that every login |
| 23:51.20 | Shirik | etc. |
| 23:51.24 | nevcairiel | my name is unique, yet some guy on magtheridon has a 80 priest with it .. he stole it, clearly. |
| 23:51.36 | durcyn | obviously |
| 23:51.51 | Shirik | I will rename myself to nevcairiel |
| 23:52.00 | nevcairiel | i didnt even check US armory |
| 23:52.02 | nevcairiel | checks |
| 23:52.30 | nevcairiel | nop, all clear |
| 23:52.34 | nevcairiel | just that one priest dude |
| 23:52.47 | Adys | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/13/23425632981-realms-show-offline.html |
| 23:53.00 | DWSR | Shirik: The problem is that it's only half of the frame. |
| 23:53.00 | Adys | I love bluetrackers |
| 23:53.16 | Shirik | (18:53:00)  -⺠Erroneous Nickname 'nevÃâ¹airiel' |
| 23:53.18 | Shirik | :( |
| 23:53.39 | nevcairiel | no utf8 in names, silly |
| 23:53.47 | Adys | [01:53:38] * nevÄairiel :Erroneous Nickname |
| 23:53.48 | Adys | =( |
| 23:54.56 | nevcairiel | DWSR: probably some other addon (or the default ui) trying to be smart about the pet buttons |
| 23:55.19 | nevcairiel | oh wait, i dont use the default uis pet btutons anymore |
| 23:55.34 | nevcairiel | check with framestack if the buttons that are out of bar are actually bartender buttons |
| 23:56.39 | nevcairiel | shirik: i know you just want to be like me, but thats not the way to go |
| 23:56.54 | nevcairie| | ? |
| 23:58.31 | DWSR | nevcairiel: k |
| 23:58.45 | DWSR | hrm. |
| 23:58.51 | DWSR | Actually, I think it might be kgpanels causing this. |
| 23:58.51 | DWSR | sec. |
