| 00:00.29 | AlicanC | i can see the frame and texts correctly but cant see the editbox: YSRPFrame.PlayersEditBox= CreateFrame("EditBox", "YSRPFrame_PlayerEditBox", YSRPFrame, "InputBoxTemplate"); |
| 00:01.02 | PProvost | What did you expect to see? |
| 00:01.12 | PProvost | Did you try clicking where you have it positioned? |
| 00:01.16 | PProvost | Did you position it? |
| 00:01.29 | AlicanC | YSRPFrame.PlayersEditBox:SetPoint("TOPLEFT", 15, -50); |
| 00:01.47 | AlicanC | nothing happens when i click around |
| 00:01.47 | PProvost | and bottomright? or height and width? |
| 00:01.55 | PProvost | else the size is 0 |
| 00:02.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: power is out for several hours. also, sc2? |
| 00:02.49 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1: yes |
| 00:02.53 | AlicanC | got setheight setwidth :S |
| 00:03.19 | PProvost | set the background color/texture to see if you can see it |
| 00:03.26 | ScytheBlade1 | would love to.. pending electricity |
| 00:03.32 | *** join/#wowuidev theorb (~theorb@91.84.53.6) |
| 00:03.33 | AlicanC | k |
| 00:03.47 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1: i figured it wouldnt be for another few hours anyway |
| 00:04.46 | ScytheBlade1 | 5 now.. power should be back by 7:30 |
| 00:04.50 | ScytheBlade1 | we'll see |
| 00:04.53 | Thunder_Child | http://www.intomobile.com/2010/02/16/texas-instruments-blaze-omap-4-dual-3-7-inch-screens-3-cameras-single-serving-of-insanity.html |
| 00:05.09 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1: i thought you were east coast |
| 00:05.32 | ScytheBlade1 | I work east coast hours, in the mountain time zone |
| 00:05.42 | Thunder_Child | that TI phone is amusing |
| 00:05.46 | Thunder_Child | ah |
| 00:05.50 | ScytheBlade1 | I primarily support NY/NJ |
| 00:06.13 | smcn | ScytheBlade1: i remember you.. in the mountain time zone |
| 00:06.25 | ScytheBlade1 | hm? |
| 00:06.35 | ScytheBlade1 | that is where I live indeed |
| 00:07.09 | Gnarfoz | sbo: don't say you didn't get that |
| 00:07.13 | Fisker | i'm a jerk |
| 00:07.15 | Fisker | dun dun dun |
| 00:07.22 | PProvost | ScytheBlade1: that's funny. I work Pacific TZ... in the Mountain TZ |
| 00:07.41 | smcn | i raid AEST in MST :P |
| 00:07.54 | smcn | get home at midnight and raid until 6am |
| 00:07.58 | PProvost | Tons of MST here... :) |
| 00:08.12 | ScytheBlade1 | PProvost: /jealous. Waking up at 4:30 ftl |
| 00:08.25 | PProvost | Yeah, I get to sleep in and still be ahead of them. |
| 00:08.43 | PProvost | Espcially because my team in PST tends to be late starters (11am their time) |
| 00:09.32 | ScytheBlade1 | my internal clock is way out of sync |
| 00:09.51 | ScytheBlade1 | "sleeping WAY IN" = 6 AM |
| 00:09.56 | PProvost | lol |
| 00:12.14 | Fisker | i totally pissed this guy off |
| 00:12.30 | Fisker | I've pyloned my base so much up that his units just got torn apart while trying to get up the ramp |
| 00:12.31 | Gnarfoz | you're totally pissing me off, too |
| 00:12.46 | Fisker | then i raged |
| 00:13.36 | Fisker | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/79adc57b0612c11e95abe63e477dfb6f.Jpg <-this is my rage face |
| 00:14.18 | *** join/#wowuidev elec29a (~elec@host195-40-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 00:14.53 | elec29a | hi ho nice ppl i admire everyone of you :) |
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| 00:15.08 | Arrowmaster | is that really what the minimap looks like? it doesnt look very good |
| 00:18.07 | *** join/#wowuidev Movix (~Movix@mail.schiffmann.fr) |
| 00:23.46 | olafski | interesting ptr changes.. some of them I don't really get |
| 00:25.11 | Fisker | i get em olafski |
| 00:25.17 | Fisker | hey cog|away |
| 00:25.20 | Fisker | or should i say COG? |
| 00:26.15 | sylvanaar | olafski: are you the one who had the LibWho issues |
| 00:27.26 | Fisker | olafski |
| 00:27.28 | Thunder_Child | this....this is very disturbing http://gizmodo.com/5475514/inowpronounceyoumanandwife-an-apple-store-wedding |
| 00:27.28 | Fisker | explain yourself |
| 00:27.53 | olafski | sylvanaar: no |
| 00:28.03 | Fisker | It should be a punishable offense Thunder_Child |
| 00:28.07 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/399427123 |
| 00:28.15 | sylvanaar | i swear Fisker is a bot |
| 00:28.31 | Fisker | i'm not |
| 00:28.40 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: agreed |
| 00:28.51 | Adys | http://gearsblog.blogspot.com/2010/02/hello-html5.html |
| 00:28.55 | *** part/#wowuidev Movix (~Movix@mail.schiffmann.fr) |
| 00:29.07 | sylvanaar | Its too bad that, on their wedding night, they will only be able to do one thing at a time |
| 00:29.12 | sylvanaar | thats funny |
| 00:29.40 | Fisker | i chuckl'd |
| 00:30.26 | sylvanaar | i heard apple is banning all the adult apps from the app store - so their honeymoon will have to be PG rated |
| 00:30.42 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3 (~kd3@wikia/kaydeethree) |
| 00:31.49 | elec29a | if you offer me a job as slave code i would transfer everywhere outside sh(italy) |
| 00:32.09 | olafski | alright.. |
| 00:38.25 | Adys | AssertionError: u'"Charlie" Northtop' != u'\\34Charlie\\34 Northtop' |
| 00:38.31 | Adys | what the fuck? Cide, nevcairiel ^ |
| 00:40.34 | Adys | ord('"') == 34 |
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| 00:41.17 | kd3 | er... |
| 00:41.22 | kd3 | google's an energy trader now? |
| 00:41.26 | kd3 | the hell? |
| 00:41.43 | Adys | oh wait |
| 00:41.48 | Adys | Shadowed: pingzorling |
| 00:42.03 | Shadowed | SHADOWED IS NOT HERE RIGHT NOW PLEASE LEAVE A MESSAGE AT THE BEEP |
| 00:42.04 | Shadowed | beeps |
| 00:42.33 | kd3 | yelling into your answering machine? bad form |
| 00:42.41 | Shadowed | I need to make that into some sort of auto responder |
| 00:42.44 | Shadowed | to screw with people |
| 00:43.23 | Adys | like Shirik used to? |
| 00:43.25 | Adys | Shirik: ping |
| 00:44.05 | Shadowed | Shirik beat me to it? |
| 00:44.09 | Shadowed | bastard |
| 00:45.20 | *** join/#wowuidev elec29a (~elec29a@host195-40-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 00:45.53 | elec29a | why did someone of you bann me on irc webchat still working |
| 00:46.17 | Thunder_Child | thats nifty http://gizmodo.com/5475210/usb-to-micro-usb-sync-blocker-cable-will-spare-you-embarrassment |
| 00:46.40 | Thunder_Child | "<-- elec29a (~elec@host195-40-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) has quit" that doesnt say banned |
| 00:47.01 | Cide | Adys: um |
| 00:47.15 | Cide | it's u'\34CHarlie\34 Northtop' then |
| 00:47.15 | elec29a | i get Unable to relsolve server in mirc |
| 00:47.16 | Adys | Cide: disregard that |
| 00:47.17 | Cide | not \\34 |
| 00:47.22 | Adys | Shadowed sucks cocks |
| 00:47.22 | Corrodias | force syncing? are people dumb enough to make devices that automatically exchange data with anything they're plugged into? |
| 00:47.23 | Adys | :P |
| 00:47.26 | Cairenn | that doesn't mean you've been banned |
| 00:47.43 | Thunder_Child | Adys: tell us something we dont know |
| 00:47.47 | elec29a | but i think someone did it or not ? |
| 00:47.58 | Antiarc | Corrodias: Apparently |
| 00:48.01 | elec29a | maybe someone over you |
| 00:48.03 | Cairenn | jumping to conclusions ~= not productive |
| 00:48.09 | zenzelezz | elec29a: no, they did not |
| 00:48.20 | Shadowed | so what you are saying is |
| 00:48.21 | zenzelezz | if they did you would get a message saying you were banned from the network |
| 00:48.21 | Adys | Cairenn: so what you're saying is jumping to conclusions is productive |
| 00:48.24 | Shadowed | if I jump to the conclusion that Cairenn is awesome |
| 00:48.26 | elec29a | ok thx i am paranoid fbi was at my friends home |
| 00:48.27 | Adys | Shadowed: you're slow today |
| 00:48.29 | Shadowed | I would be wrong |
| 00:48.29 | Cairenn | sigh |
| 00:48.30 | Cairenn | heh |
| 00:48.35 | kd3 | ptr's out |
| 00:48.35 | Cairenn | hehehhe |
| 00:48.43 | kd3 | email's going to be a while |
| 00:48.49 | Shadowed | kd3: :( |
| 00:48.50 | Cairenn | goes back to sleep |
| 00:48.52 | kd3 | 's got a few gigs of downloading ahead of him |
| 00:48.55 | Shadowed | it's only 5 PM! |
| 00:48.56 | Shadowed | I want my delicious diffs |
| 00:49.01 | Shadowed | with the new delicious APIs |
| 00:49.02 | Thunder_Child | lies Cairen |
| 00:49.04 | Thunder_Child | lies |
| 00:49.16 | Shadowed | actually I have to download the PTR I guess |
| 00:51.30 | Shadowed | kd3 did you cheat to get the PTR, or just patching from 3.0.1 |
| 00:51.51 | kd3 | it's patching from 3.0.1, but I was foolish and wiped my ptr folder a little while ago |
| 00:51.56 | kd3 | so I get to download from scratch too |
| 00:52.06 | kd3 | you'll have to get all of the 0.3.0 patches, then a patch to 0.3.3 |
| 00:52.14 | Shadowed | sounds exciting |
| 00:53.03 | Fisker | don't worry it isn't |
| 00:53.12 | Fisker | btw kd3 |
| 00:53.15 | Fisker | played some sc2? |
| 00:53.26 | kd3 | negative. the installer's segfaulting |
| 00:53.29 | Fisker | hoho |
| 00:53.31 | Fisker | hohohoho |
| 00:53.43 | Fisker | do you know why i asked you kd3? |
| 00:53.46 | Cide | give me your account |
| 00:53.57 | kd3 | I may break down and find a crapbox to install windows on just for the sc2 beta |
| 00:54.05 | kd3 | until I can fire off some nasty emails to QA |
| 00:54.07 | Cide | mine |
| 00:54.28 | Fisker | i hope they tell you to stuff it and so forth |
| 00:54.32 | Fisker | windows ftw |
| 00:55.17 | Thunder_Child | http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/4/2010/02/definitive-photoshop-timeline.jpg |
| 00:56.39 | Arrowmaster | kd3: have you tried installing it in a VM then coping the files over? |
| 00:57.30 | kd3 | also on my to do list; soon as I finish tracing what's going wrong in wine |
| 00:59.50 | *** join/#wowuidev elec29a (~elec@host195-40-dynamic.60-82-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 01:01.42 | elec29a | ni hao |
| 01:02.50 | elec29a | it means hello in chinese |
| 01:04.41 | elec29a | i did learn it from gold sellers i like gold farmers and gms i wanna know more of em |
| 01:04.57 | Fisker | so kd3 |
| 01:04.59 | Fisker | dne a diff eh? |
| 01:05.00 | Adys | Cairenn: starve the troll plx |
| 01:05.03 | Fisker | done/ |
| 01:05.04 | Fisker | * |
| 01:05.15 | Cairenn | if it continues, I will |
| 01:05.41 | Shadowed | weren't you going to sleep |
| 01:05.49 | Fisker | you can't starve me Cairenn |
| 01:06.39 | Thunder_Child | ~seen sixen |
| 01:06.40 | purl | sixen is currently on #sc2mapster (2h 3m 9s). Has said a total of 3 messages. Is idling for 2h 1m 29s, last said: 'hai2u, nic~'. |
| 01:06.46 | Fisker | shoo Thunder_Child |
| 01:06.51 | Fisker | he's ours now |
| 01:06.52 | Thunder_Child | what? |
| 01:08.08 | Fisker | yes |
| 01:08.12 | elec29a | is /y range based or city ? |
| 01:08.40 | Cairenn | elec29a: I think you are in the wrong channel, this channel is for programmers, not regular users |
| 01:08.50 | elec29a | ok sorry |
| 01:09.07 | elec29a | i did release http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/hsc.aspx |
| 01:09.24 | *** join/#wowuidev Sixen (~Sixen@173-25-22-19.client.mchsi.com) |
| 01:10.00 | elec29a | i was programmer an reverse enginer for my live |
| 01:10.55 | Shadowed | There's a difference from asking general programming questions and general game questions :p |
| 01:11.13 | elec29a | ok sorry shame on me |
| 01:11.36 | Cairenn | sokay |
| 01:12.19 | elec29a | i only think that 95% on our server are stupid so i join this channel to learn |
| 01:12.57 | Fisker | looks at kd3 |
| 01:13.20 | Shadowed | PTR needs to download faster |
| 01:13.23 | Shadowed | I want to see what awesome changes we got |
| 01:13.29 | Fisker | login server down here |
| 01:13.36 | elec29a | is it the same in american servers i maybe buy an american wow to learn |
| 01:13.36 | Fisker | but i still look at kd3 |
| 01:13.38 | Fisker | wtb diffs |
| 01:13.56 | Cairenn | elec29a: just so you know, the same rules that are posted here: http://www.wowinterface.com/forums/showpost.php?p=684&postcount=2 are expected to be followed in this channel |
| 01:14.19 | elec29a | thx i have 2 read |
| 01:15.07 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=12680127988&sid=1 <-lol |
| 01:15.15 | Fisker | so that's what, the 4th? 5th? time this happens |
| 01:16.22 | amro | question is, why do they need to take down the forums to swap ads? |
| 01:16.47 | Fisker | Maybe they couldn't fix it as quickly? |
| 01:17.47 | foxlit | "If players zone into the dungeon without using the Dungeon Finder, the bosses will not be there." |
| 01:17.50 | Amarande | elec29a, basically don't be a douchebag. :) |
| 01:17.51 | foxlit | sneaky sneaky |
| 01:18.24 | Amarande | and bring Cairenn plenty of cookies |
| 01:18.29 | elec29a | thx cairenn: noone did show me this and i am a week here |
| 01:18.33 | Cairenn | heh |
| 01:18.33 | Torhal | And oil for her whips. |
| 01:18.37 | Cairenn | elec29a: no worries |
| 01:18.41 | Cairenn | Torhal: *dws* |
| 01:18.56 | Shadowed | Torhal you forgot the chains |
| 01:18.58 | Shadowed | chains need oiling too |
| 01:19.07 | Torhal | I thought that's what the WD-40 was for... |
| 01:21.36 | *** join/#wowuidev Aqua (~Aquavette@74-137-177-38.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 01:21.52 | Cairenn | sticks and stones will break your bones .... |
| 01:21.52 | Cairenn | .... but whips and chains excite me |
| 01:22.13 | Shadowed | whips can break bones I think |
| 01:22.20 | Shadowed | not that I have tested mind you |
| 01:23.22 | amro | whips can break bones. eventually. |
| 01:23.36 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: fuck we have rules now? |
| 01:24.36 | Cairenn | Arrowmaster: we've always had rules:p |
| 01:24.46 | Cairenn | you never fucking pay attention, asshat |
| 01:24.47 | Torhal | Cairenn: He didn't get the memo. |
| 01:25.01 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 01:25.01 | Shadowed | rules are meant to be read after you break them |
| 01:25.04 | Shadowed | then summarily ignored |
| 01:25.06 | elec29a | amarande: sorry i wouldnt be douchebag i was 94 days in san fransciso but i need you to learn your language so dont missunderstand i had only german and italian in school |
| 01:25.44 | Cairenn | elec29a: he wasn't saying you have been, he was just saying that the rules are basically "don't be" |
| 01:25.53 | elec29a | ok |
| 01:26.04 | Shirik | ~dns the-coolest-ip-on-the-net.com |
| 01:26.08 | Shirik | what |
| 01:26.08 | Cairenn | basically, be good to one another |
| 01:26.09 | Shirik | fail |
| 01:26.11 | foxlit | Tirion Fordring is annoyingly useless. |
| 01:26.13 | Shirik | ~rdns 69.69.69.69 |
| 01:26.20 | Shirik | how do I reverse dns |
| 01:26.22 | foxlit | If he was half a ret paladin, Arthas would've died tonight :/ |
| 01:26.50 | foxlit | But no, he just sits there, unable to find his divine shield key. |
| 01:26.52 | ScytheBlade1 | ~reversedns 1.1.1.1 |
| 01:27.00 | ScytheBlade1 | good question |
| 01:27.14 | Arrowmaster | ;; ANSWER SECTION: |
| 01:27.14 | Arrowmaster | 69.69.69.69.in-addr.arpa. 86400INPTRthe-coolest-ip-on-the-net.com. |
| 01:27.17 | amro | foxlit: he's just confused about his continued presence in EPL |
| 01:28.11 | *** join/#wowuidev WobWork (~Wobwork@136.136.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) |
| 01:28.24 | Arrowmaster | ~dns 69.69.69.69 |
| 01:28.37 | kd3 | ~factinfo dns |
| 01:28.37 | purl | dns -- it has been requested 2 times, last by pcj at Fri Nov 21 10:46:58 2008. |
| 01:28.38 | Arrowmaster | ~failrik |
| 01:28.39 | purl | FAIL, Shirik, FAIL! |
| 01:28.41 | WobWork | they're not half wrong |
| 01:28.41 | Shirik | :( |
| 01:28.51 | Arrowmaster | ~dns |
| 01:28.54 | kd3 | ~literal dns |
| 01:28.55 | purl | "dns" is "(Domain Name Service) This service maps TCP/IP numbers such as 123.12.4.245 to a more easily remembered name, such as www.ugeek.com. Thus, when you type www.ugeek.com into your browser, it goes out to the DNS server you specified when you installed dial-up networking (or TCP/IP services if you've got a nice connection) and asks for a matching TCP/IP address. If it finds a DNS entry for the name you typed in, you see our site. If not, it lets ... |
| 01:28.57 | foxlit | they're three quarters wrong? |
| 01:29.05 | Arrowmaster | ~factinfo dns |
| 01:29.05 | purl | dns -- it has been requested 2 times, last by pcj at Fri Nov 21 10:46:58 2008. |
| 01:29.21 | ScytheBlade1 | looks like a hard coded one |
| 01:29.21 | Shirik | ~factinfo factinfo |
| 01:29.21 | purl | there's no such factoid as factinfo, Shirik |
| 01:29.30 | amro | ~cmdinfo dns |
| 01:29.30 | purl | command usage includes 257 of Factoid Commands, 50 of Maths, 31 of Weather, 26 of Help, 10 of wikipedia, 6 of Factoid Info, 6 of Factoid Search, 5 of Dict, 4 of botmail, 3 of wtf, 3 of Tell, 3 of babelfish, 2 of dns, 1 of Uptime, 1 of slashdot, 1 of Factoid Stats, 1 of nickometer and 1 of reverse. |
| 01:29.41 | Shirik | purl, factinfo is a command to give facts about factoids! |
| 01:29.41 | purl | there's no such factoid as is a command to give facts about factoids!, Shirik |
| 01:29.45 | Shirik | ... |
| 01:29.48 | Shirik | hm |
| 01:29.51 | Cairenn | lol |
| 01:29.51 | Shirik | hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 01:30.24 | foxlit | ~factinfo |
| 01:30.30 | foxlit | qq!\ |
| 01:30.33 | foxlit | ~literal factinfo |
| 01:30.34 | purl | "factinfo" is "a command to give facts about factoids!" |
| 01:30.37 | Shirik | ! |
| 01:30.44 | foxlit | I half-win |
| 01:30.51 | Shirik | how did you do that |
| 01:30.55 | Shirik | ~factinfo factinfo |
| 01:30.55 | purl | factinfo -- created by foxlit <~foxlit@0x573e6bae.alb2nxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk> 36s ago. |
| 01:31.31 | foxlit | With the help of four characters: "no, " |
| 01:31.47 | amro | stop abusing purl |
| 01:31.49 | amro | ~botsnack |
| 01:31.49 | purl | thanks, amro |
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| 01:32.04 | jerub1 | heeey.. so i'm trying to play sc2 |
| 01:32.11 | jerub1 | but i don't have any friends |
| 01:32.22 | jerub1 | anyone wanna be my friend? :P |
| 01:32.35 | Gnarfoz | if that includes you giving me a sc2 key, sure |
| 01:32.38 | amro | sure. just give me an invite |
| 01:33.11 | Cairenn | dang, poor Mellisa |
| 01:37.44 | Thunder_Child | jerub1: as in you need a code or you need people on your flist? |
| 01:43.28 | kd3 | woot! Culling of Stratholme: "Players may now skip the initial introduction dialog to this dungeon once they have completed it at least once. |
| 01:44.47 | foxlit | "World Event bosses (such as Ahune for the Fire Festival) will now be accessible through the Dungeon Finder. Players must use the Dungeon Finder to access these bosses." |
| 01:44.55 | foxlit | No more Kodo farming for you! |
| 01:44.58 | kd3 | !? |
| 01:45.07 | Shadowed | you can use the dungeon finder with a group |
| 01:45.23 | foxlit | I have a feeling it will respect a new lockout |
| 01:45.49 | foxlit | Otherwise, there's no reason to *force* you to use the dungeon finder |
| 01:45.55 | kd3 | har: "* Many quests which require vehicles have had their vehicle mechanics updated and improved in the interest of fun." |
| 01:46.04 | ZorbaTHut | at least this means no horrible grueling 20-minute treks across the world to get into it |
| 01:46.25 | kd3 | ooh |
| 01:46.26 | foxlit | Also, the common matchmaking pool is <3 |
| 01:46.27 | kd3 | AH improvements |
| 01:46.41 | Shadowed | Yea the AH improvements are amazing kd3 |
| 01:46.56 | kd3 | did they hire someone away from norgs? |
| 01:47.05 | ZorbaTHut | ooh, gimme a link? |
| 01:47.13 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=23329393385&sid=1&pageNo=1#3 |
| 01:47.36 | Shadowed | More of their standard "Let's try and improve the usability of the UI" I think |
| 01:47.43 | Shadowed | they stole my quest icon mod :( |
| 01:48.07 | foxlit | "Quest items in a player's inventory which begin quests now each have an exclamation point overlaid on their icons to make them more easily identifiable." << need! |
| 01:48.13 | foxlit | I can steal that for my quest item mod |
| 01:48.23 | ZorbaTHut | "Players who use the Vote Kick option will now be prompted to provide a reason for kicking a party member" oh yes this will certainly happen |
| 01:48.30 | Arrowmaster | so since we all know that the good lua programmers they have are all working on other projects, any bets on how bad the interns did on these improvements? |
| 01:48.45 | Shadowed | Arrowmaster we don't know yet |
| 01:48.59 | kd3 | I'm still a gig and a half away from doing my diff |
| 01:49.02 | Shadowed | The AH ones are more on the C side I think, beyond the UI parts |
| 01:49.03 | kd3 | sighs |
| 01:49.03 | foxlit | I maintain a positive outlook. How badly could you screw it up? |
| 01:49.20 | Thunder_Child | fail foxlit, just fail |
| 01:49.20 | Arrowmaster | ZorbaTHut: it will be like the windows server shutdown dialog and accept anything except nothing so people will just hit space and click ok |
| 01:49.33 | Shadowed | how large is 3.3.3 kd3? |
| 01:49.39 | kd3 | ~100 megs |
| 01:49.40 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, I'm expecting a lot of kick messages like "a" or "lol" or "omg" |
| 01:49.44 | Shadowed | not bad |
| 01:49.49 | ZorbaTHut | nobody is going to actually write a useful message |
| 01:49.57 | Shadowed | what build # are we up to again |
| 01:49.57 | Arrowmaster | "u suk" |
| 01:50.11 | kd3 | 11573 |
| 01:50.15 | Shadowed | damn |
| 01:50.57 | kd3 | ...about freaking time: "Authenticator Frame: If a player has a Battle.net Authenticator attached to his or her account and selects Remember Account Name at the login screen, the next time that player logs into World of Warcraft, a field to input the Authenticator code will be displayed below the password field. " |
| 01:52.25 | Thunder_Child | it's like that in SC2. prolly where they got it from |
| 01:52.42 | Arrowmaster | why the fuck would they add an auction creation cast bar? |
| 01:52.55 | Shadowed | Arrowmaster if you are posting a lot of auctions |
| 01:53.03 | Shadowed | so you know not to close the AH |
| 01:53.07 | kd3 | just to show progress? "You're posting 48 auctions. You'll be done in..." |
| 01:53.18 | Shadowed | But it sounds like it's a literal cast bar which will be silly if it truly is |
| 01:53.37 | Arrowmaster | but this is their own ui, not an addon that has to wait because of limitations of the default ui |
| 01:53.39 | ZorbaTHut | damn I was hoping for useful AH changes |
| 01:53.43 | Arrowmaster | why not just make it fucking post them all at once |
| 01:53.51 | ZorbaTHut | not "we duplicated some of the auctioneer code" |
| 01:53.52 | Shadowed | Arrowmaster: So you don't kill the server? |
| 01:53.56 | Shadowed | uhhhh |
| 01:54.02 | Shadowed | Those are really useful changes depending on how they implemented it |
| 01:54.15 | ZorbaTHut | they're changes that are equivalent to downloading auctioneer |
| 01:54.26 | Shadowed | And? |
| 01:54.37 | ZorbaTHut | I'm sure they're useful for people who are scared of UI mods, but they're not useful for me, because, unlike someone who's scared of UI mods, I downloaded Auctioneer :P |
| 01:54.41 | Shadowed | Most of the changes you see when they implement some of an addon is the equivalent of downloading the addon |
| 01:54.54 | ZorbaTHut | not really true. I mean, look at the threat meter |
| 01:54.55 | Shadowed | and again, depending on how they implemented it, it simplifies life for addon posting mods |
| 01:54.58 | ZorbaTHut | that was useful because it was actually accurate |
| 01:55.00 | Shadowed | "most" |
| 01:55.04 | Arrowmaster | implemented by some stupid intern copy and pasting from auctioneer while also trying to modify it enough to not look like copy and paste, resulting in a mostly broken final product like the 'improved error frame' |
| 01:55.15 | Shadowed | Arrowmaster: Maybe they fixed the stack overflow error |
| 01:55.20 | Shadowed | crosses fingers |
| 01:55.39 | Shadowed | If the entire posting stuff is implemented on the Lua side, then it's pretty useless to authors. If it's on the C side then it might be worthwhile |
| 01:55.40 | ZorbaTHut | I was hoping for something more fundamental, like a real commodities market, or partial buys, or whatever :( |
| 01:55.42 | Arrowmaster | did they ever fix that it used the wrong stack level on debugstack()? |
| 01:55.55 | Shadowed | not that I know of |
| 01:56.00 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 01:56.05 | Arrowmaster | thats so fucking bad |
| 01:56.07 | Shadowed | The whole error frame is pretty buggy still |
| 01:57.40 | kd3 | ... |
| 01:57.42 | kd3 | " Yes, the Dungeon Finder must be used. The interface will have a separate selection for special World Event bosses in dungeons. If players zone into the dungeon without using the Dungeon Finder, the bosses will not be there. " |
| 01:57.47 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=23329143450&pageNo=1&sid=1#12 |
| 01:57.53 | Shadowed | huh |
| 01:58.08 | foxlit | "STOP FARMING THE SILLY MOUNT, YOU FOOLS" |
| 01:58.16 | Shadowed | Dungeon finder, you can still requeue foxlit |
| 01:58.27 | Shadowed | That actually might be pretty interesting, or god awful depending on how they implement it |
| 01:58.27 | Arrowmaster | "Parties randomly created via the Dungeon Finder will always be arranged in the party interface from top to bottom in the following order: tank, healer, damage, damage, damage." starting bets off on if this was done C side or Lua side |
| 01:58.34 | foxlit | Shadowed: my assumption is that it'll lock you out. |
| 01:58.35 | Arrowmaster | im betting Lua |
| 01:58.39 | Shadowed | foxlit: ah true |
| 01:58.56 | Shadowed | Arrowmaster: Lua with a change to secure headers |
| 01:59.11 | Arrowmaster | Shadowed: never |
| 01:59.16 | foxlit | C by forcing party1...4 order! |
| 01:59.21 | Arrowmaster | blizzard doesnt use secure headers for their own frames |
| 01:59.26 | Shadowed | oh yea they don't do they |
| 01:59.50 | foxlit | [Dunno] |
| 01:59.59 | kd3 | it'd be nice if they used the crap we have to... |
| 02:00.19 | Arrowmaster | "The World Map will now provide an option to display different levels of a multi-layered dungeon, zone, or city (i.e. players can view the map of the Dalaran Sewers without having to be in that location)." |
| 02:00.19 | foxlit | Are group headers crap? |
| 02:00.25 | Arrowmaster | wait that only applys to dalaran |
| 02:00.26 | foxlit | I never had an excuse to actually use them. |
| 02:00.34 | kd3 | and most dungeons? |
| 02:00.37 | Arrowmaster | since you cant view dungeons from outside the dungeon |
| 02:00.44 | Arrowmaster | or can you now? |
| 02:00.47 | kd3 | you can't |
| 02:01.01 | kd3 | but if you're in dalaran, you can look at the sewers instead of the top floor |
| 02:01.03 | Arrowmaster | so it only applies to dalaran |
| 02:01.05 | kd3 | yar |
| 02:01.13 | Arrowmaster | you could always do that kd3 |
| 02:01.17 | foxlit | Not that you'd want to look at a map of dalarn |
| 02:01.26 | kd3 | you could, but strat has been broken forever |
| 02:01.49 | kd3 | the battlemap shows the wrong zones, etc. I'm hoping that gets fixed, finally |
| 02:02.38 | Arrowmaster | "If a players selects Track Low Level Quests, the quest objectives will no longer appear dim on the Map, nor will the exclamation points appear dim over NPC heads or on the Mini-Map." |
| 02:02.45 | Arrowmaster | how is that an enhancement? |
| 02:03.12 | foxlit | They'll now be bright. |
| 02:03.24 | foxlit | Or something. Personally, I prefer orange. |
| 02:03.54 | Arrowmaster | this quest frame sorting stuff better be done C side |
| 02:04.02 | Arrowmaster | otherwise its going to forever be broken |
| 02:04.06 | jerub1 | woo, it just started working |
| 02:04.45 | Arrowmaster | lol @ the bug fix |
| 02:04.49 | Shadowed | what bug fix |
| 02:04.59 | Arrowmaster | "When speaking to an NPC for which a player has 2 or more quests and not all of them are complete, the incomplete quests will now correctly show as a gray question marks in the dialog box. In addition, repeatable quests will be properly colored as blue exclamation points or question marks in the dialog box for NPCs with multiple quests available, or for which the player has multiple quests in progress or |
| 02:05.04 | Shadowed | oh |
| 02:05.06 | Arrowmaster | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:05.07 | Arrowmaster | its listed as a bug fix |
| 02:05.08 | Shadowed | I'm pretty sure that's not a bug fix |
| 02:05.10 | Arrowmaster | but thats a new feature |
| 02:05.15 | Shadowed | because I never recall seeing that when I did DQI |
| 02:05.47 | Arrowmaster | questsfu used to add that feature to the ui |
| 02:06.02 | Arrowmaster | not the blue but the dimmed |
| 02:06.14 | Dagmar | Sadness. |
| 02:06.33 | Dagmar | Last night I tanked the Crown bosses on my DK, with a hunter present. |
| 02:06.34 | Shadowed | I mean, I guess it's a bug fix sort of |
| 02:06.42 | Dagmar | I'm not sure he was even aware he had freezing arrow |
| 02:07.18 | Dagmar | I started to go ahead and deliver my summons, and then go get *my* hunter to tank with |
| 02:08.26 | Dagmar | THat fight is just silly easy, provided someone's OT-ing or CC-ing the second perfume guy |
| 02:08.45 | Dagmar | It's a veritable cornucopia of "running and screaming" without it. |
| 02:11.59 | Torhal | Ick. I have everything compiled with UFT8 support, yet I had to rename a file in order to get it to play in mplayer |
| 02:12.03 | Amarande | Dagmar: was he surv? |
| 02:12.31 | Dagmar | Amarande: Considering he died three times out of five, I somehow don't think you could call him that even if he specced it |
| 02:12.34 | Arrowmaster | Torhal: windows? |
| 02:12.39 | Dagmar | SImple chain trapping would have done the trick |
| 02:13.05 | Dagmar | EVen with the annoying 8s gap between traps |
| 02:13.55 | Dagmar | Doesn't really matter where the mob is if you have Deterrence and Distracting Shot |
| 02:14.13 | Dagmar | Worst-case scenario becomes you taking a pounding for two seconds |
| 02:14.30 | Dagmar | ...which is kinda hard to even have happen since you have to have a bit of range to use Distracting Shot |
| 02:14.32 | Gnarfoz | eu ptr logins down... ;\ wonder when they'll come up |
| 02:17.06 | Amarande | Stay the patient course / Of little worth is your wrath / The server is down. |
| 02:17.18 | Arrowmaster | so no more marks of honor, does that mean i could buy the final pvp mount and the av mount using just honor or gold if i reactivated my account? |
| 02:17.28 | Dagmar | Possibly |
| 02:17.41 | Amarande | wait, what changed with marks of honor? |
| 02:17.41 | Dagmar | I'm more interested in the status of those colognes/perfumes |
| 02:17.45 | Arrowmaster | 50 av tokens for that wolf was insane |
| 02:17.56 | Amarande | Arrow: AV is actually fun though |
| 02:17.57 | Dagmar | THey dont' _say_ thety have a duration on them, but the AH doesn't let you list them |
| 02:18.08 | Amarande | unlike, say, AB, which is boring as hell |
| 02:18.16 | Dagmar | I just know 45sp/75atk/20def is pretty badass if you're nowhere near the level cap |
| 02:18.20 | Gnarfoz | Dagmar: they have "requires: love is in the air" |
| 02:18.30 | Gnarfoz | they'll vanish in ~20 hours, depending on your time zone |
| 02:18.35 | Arrowmaster | AV is fun, its nothing but a fucking zerg rush unless they changed it somehow in the last year |
| 02:18.39 | Arrowmaster | isnt |
| 02:18.41 | Dagmar | Weird. I try the default UI then because its' not saying a thing like that about them on my scrreen |
| 02:18.54 | Dagmar | BUmmer if they stop working tho |
| 02:18.55 | Gnarfoz | in the tooltip? |
| 02:18.56 | Amarande | Arrow, you don't like 40v40 PvP? |
| 02:18.59 | Gnarfoz | first line under the name |
| 02:19.12 | Arrowmaster | Amarande: what pvp? its a zerg rush against npcs |
| 02:19.12 | Dagmar | Seriously. It isn't saying that over here. |
| 02:19.33 | Dagmar | AFter Dia de los Muertos I was looking for that |
| 02:20.55 | Arrowmaster | av USED to be fun, back when things like commando/reavers still had a chance in hell of being called in (had to pick something other than the bosses since i did actually summon Lok in lvl 80 AV) |
| 02:21.14 | Dagmar | It *occasionally* happens still |
| 02:21.40 | Shadowed | ~addonkit |
| 02:21.41 | purl | Located at http://tinyurl.com/addonkit the addonkit is "The World of Warcraft User Interface Customization tool that allows users to tweak and customize the User Interface." |
| 02:21.41 | Arrowmaster | i still have the followup korrak quest in my questlog |
| 02:21.55 | Dagmar | I've been in a few where some of us set out to collect and turn on everything, and the reaction was great since many people have never seen them appear |
| 02:22.29 | Arrowmaster | they dont really do much though |
| 02:22.36 | Dagmar | ALmost as good as the Etymydian making an appearance, just from the shock value |
| 02:22.38 | Arrowmaster | or have they been buffed? |
| 02:22.49 | Arrowmaster | etymydian? |
| 02:23.11 | Dagmar | Yeah you know that quest in Sholazar from the giant deer-lady? |
| 02:23.29 | Dagmar | They send you through the portal to Un'goro to pick up the Etymydian to go kick ass on those undead |
| 02:23.42 | Arrowmaster | oh yeah |
| 02:23.55 | Torhal | Arrowmaster: No, Linux |
| 02:23.56 | Dagmar | Until they fixed it, there was a way to get on the Etymidian's back by starting the quest, and then get pulled into AV |
| 02:24.07 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 02:24.10 | Dagmar | ...with you still on his back, stomping around |
| 02:24.15 | Arrowmaster | rofl |
| 02:24.17 | Dagmar | Talk about overpowering exploits |
| 02:24.36 | Arrowmaster | that stormgiant dude might have been better |
| 02:26.11 | Dagmar | I freely admit to exploiting that completely ineffectively |
| 02:26.18 | Dagmar | It was too funny |
| 02:27.10 | Dagmar | Sure I could have plowed into crowds of horde, but it was FAR funnier to chase down whoever ran away first |
| 02:27.19 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 02:28.45 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/latest |
| 02:28.54 | Arrowmaster | fuck ive still got 11gigs queued in ftp |
| 02:29.30 | Dagmar | _Stormind_ got a new instance? |
| 02:29.35 | Dagmar | er Stormwind |
| 02:29.37 | Dagmar | Odd |
| 02:29.37 | Adys | Dont ask me |
| 02:34.59 | Shadowed | yay ptr done |
| 02:35.23 | Gnarfoz | Adys: yay new stuff to dig through! <3 |
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| 02:35.42 | Gnarfoz | now if you'd be so kind and flip the EU PTR switch to "on", that'd be very nice of you, too ;) |
| 02:35.50 | Adys | k done |
| 02:36.32 | Thunder_Child | flips the switch back off |
| 02:36.48 | Shadowed | Arrowmaster: Auction posting is C side |
| 02:37.12 | Arrowmaster | so why do they need a fucking cast bar |
| 02:37.39 | Shadowed | shrugs |
| 02:37.44 | Shadowed | So you don't disconnect I assume? |
| 02:39.06 | Arrowmaster | something tells me im getting ISP throttled |
| 02:39.06 | Shadowed | I think party sorting is done C side too |
| 02:39.11 | Adys | Arrowmaster: a cast bad for? |
| 02:39.18 | Adys | bar* |
| 02:39.23 | Arrowmaster | Adys: posting auctions |
| 02:39.35 | Shadowed | nothing in partymemberframe.lua |
| 02:39.36 | Adys | Oo? |
| 02:39.58 | Adys | im guessing you guys are going through the auctionframe.lua diffs? |
| 02:40.09 | Shadowed | I am yea |
| 02:40.22 | kd3 | I'm still a gig away from mailing my diff out |
| 02:40.23 | kd3 | sighs |
| 02:40.35 | Shadowed | want me to mail you it? |
| 02:40.40 | Shadowed | the files that is |
| 02:41.17 | kd3 | could you? |
| 02:41.51 | Shadowed | whats your email |
| 02:42.10 | kd3 | thekd3@gmail |
| 02:42.14 | Sixen | lies |
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| 02:42.33 | Sixen | kd3 is really mmorhaime@blizzard.com |
| 02:42.37 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:42.38 | kd3 | lmao |
| 02:42.43 | Sixen | bgates@microsoft.com |
| 02:42.44 | Sixen | kk |
| 02:42.53 | Sixen | hai kd3 |
| 02:42.54 | Sixen | :D |
| 02:43.11 | kd3 | 'lo |
| 02:43.19 | kd3 | er, isn't bill's handle billg? |
| 02:43.27 | Sixen | No idea, =\ |
| 02:43.31 | ScytheBlade1 | it is |
| 02:43.39 | Sixen | I'd be cool and just be bill@microsoft |
| 02:43.42 | Sixen | kevin@microsoft.com |
| 02:43.44 | Sixen | that's how I roll |
| 02:43.52 | kd3 | oh, and if anyone wants on my email roster, /msg me an email address |
| 02:44.25 | Arrowmaster | oh my queue is down to 10gigs now |
| 02:44.42 | Shadowed | kd3 sent |
| 02:44.47 | kd3 | got it. thanks |
| 02:45.08 | Arrowmaster | watching these download speeds is amusing, theyre all over the place spiking to 2MB/s then down to less than 200KB/s |
| 02:48.55 | Shadowed | oh Arrowmaster, quest sorting seems to be C side too |
| 02:48.59 | Shadowed | Unless it wasn't quest frame sorting? |
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| 02:51.19 | elec29a | any warlock here ? |
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| 02:52.35 | kd3 | emails away |
| 02:52.54 | Gnarfoz | kd3: yay |
| 02:52.58 | Shadowed | thanks kd3 |
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| 02:53.59 | kd3 | thank you |
| 02:54.33 | Shadowed | oh man |
| 02:54.34 | Shadowed | title, level, questTag, suggestedGroup, isHeader, isCollapsed, isComplete, isDaily, questID, displayQuestID = GetQuestLogTitle(questIndex); |
| 02:54.36 | Shadowed | questID! |
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| 02:55.05 | Shadowed | Oh wait, that might not be the real questID |
| 02:55.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Abil/Name/DisguiseAsZerglingWithWings=Disguise As Zergling With Wings |
| 02:55.08 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ amusing |
| 02:55.09 | Shadowed | sad |
| 02:55.17 | kd3 | we've always had that |
| 02:55.21 | kd3 | the displayQuestID is new |
| 02:55.22 | Shadowed | did we? |
| 02:55.26 | Shadowed | hrm the log thing is now |
| 02:55.28 | Shadowed | new* |
| 02:55.31 | kd3 | [[API_GetQuestLogTitle]] |
| 02:55.34 | kd3 | ... |
| 02:55.38 | kd3 | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetQuestLogTitle |
| 02:55.38 | ScytheBlade1 | ha |
| 02:55.40 | Shadowed | !api GetQuestLogTitle |
| 02:55.40 | lua_bot | GetQuestLogTitle: Returns information about an entry in the player's quest log (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetQuestLogTitle) |
| 02:55.41 | ScytheBlade1 | wrong channel |
| 02:55.50 | ScytheBlade1 | but close, kd3 |
| 02:56.25 | kd3 | er "always" since 3.3 |
| 02:57.15 | Shadowed | the hell |
| 02:57.15 | Shadowed | ERR_AUCTION_HOUSE_DISABLED = "The auction house is closed at the moment.|nPlease try again later."; |
| 02:57.16 | Shadowed | o.O |
| 02:57.48 | Adys | Shadowed: that was in the patch notes |
| 02:57.53 | Shadowed | Adys was it? |
| 02:57.54 | Adys | the auction house is on its own server |
| 02:57.56 | kd3 | the ah has always had a chance of being down with the mail system. this way non-auctioneer-extraordinaire users know what's up |
| 02:57.58 | Adys | it sometimes goes down |
| 02:58.10 | Shadowed | weird never seen that |
| 02:58.13 | Adys | nor have i |
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| 02:58.23 | kd3 | way to go launch-day servers |
| 03:00.31 | Shadowed | nothing too interesting thought |
| 03:00.39 | Shadowed | AH stuff will be fun to play with |
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| 03:03.29 | kd3 | +questLogTitle:SetText(" "..questID.." - "..title); |
| 03:03.32 | kd3 | ! |
| 03:03.37 | Gnarfoz | kd3: you've seen the AH/mail be down? oO |
| 03:03.42 | Shadowed | I don't see the point in that |
| 03:03.43 | kd3 | yes |
| 03:03.45 | Shadowed | except they fail at SetFormattedText |
| 03:03.59 | Gnarfoz | US realms, I guess... never seen it on EU realms ;o |
| 03:04.10 | kd3 | points to his launch-day servers comment |
| 03:04.40 | Gnarfoz | well, launch day varies per region :p |
| 03:05.29 | kd3 | and the vote boot reason looks like it's free-form and is shown to other party members when the frame to kick/not kick gets displayed |
| 03:06.00 | kd3 | though they're at least smart and not allowing people to just type in a space as the reason... |
| 03:06.46 | Shadowed | Kick reason: "." |
| 03:08.00 | Duman | heh |
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| 03:11.21 | Arrowmaster | kd3: let me guess they run string.trim() on it? |
| 03:11.26 | kd3 | yar |
| 03:11.46 | Amarande | bah, what is with all of these buffoons on blog comments that attack open platforms as a *bad* thing? |
| 03:12.18 | Amarande | they seem to somehow have gotten this idea that the best platforms are closed platforms where a single "reputable" corporation keeps tabs on everything that can run on it :P |
| 03:12.29 | Amarande | wonders what koolaid has been going around lately :| |
| 03:12.44 | Arrowmaster | string.match("[^%s%p]") would have been better |
| 03:13.07 | Shadowed | I don't think they care that much :p |
| 03:13.15 | Shadowed | as long as you can't enter a space |
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| 03:14.48 | Amarande | kd3: nah, people probably type "noob" instead if they want to be douchebags :) |
| 03:14.57 | Amarande | although I've actually yet to see the vote kick system abused |
| 03:15.09 | Amarande | I've pretty much only ever seen it use to remove someone whose connection went on a bender and never came back |
| 03:17.55 | kd3 | wtfs at the new gnomer achievement |
| 03:18.29 | WobWork | kd3: whut? |
| 03:18.39 | kd3 | http://db.mmo-champion.com/a/4786/gnomecoming-king/ |
| 03:18.53 | Gnarfoz | http://db.mmo-champion.com/a/4787/gnomecoming-queen/ |
| 03:18.57 | Gnarfoz | blah, beaten |
| 03:19.31 | WobWork | huh |
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| 03:19.35 | WobWork | world event? |
| 03:19.46 | kd3 | your guess is as good as mine |
| 03:19.54 | Shadowed | phased instance? |
| 03:20.03 | Gnarfoz | I smell 4.0 creeping up slowly |
| 03:20.11 | kd3 | this |
| 03:20.38 | WobWork | alas, alliance only |
| 03:20.41 | kd3 | there's also some interesting files in the patch that I can't really talk about yet... yay datamining |
| 03:21.11 | Gnarfoz | oO |
| 03:21.23 | WobWork | I call shenanigans on Blizzards typically alliance focused development |
| 03:21.32 | Gnarfoz | Adys: what is he talking about :D |
| 03:21.59 | Adys | Gnarfoz: cataclysm stuff |
| 03:22.31 | WobWork | Jade Tiger? |
| 03:22.36 | Legorol | is the latest PTR patch incremental, or a fresh big download? |
| 03:22.41 | Adys | incremental |
| 03:22.42 | Shadowed | incre |
| 03:22.43 | WobWork | http://db.mmo-champion.com/a/3636/jade-tiger/ |
| 03:22.44 | Shadowed | efb |
| 03:22.54 | kd3 | incremental. you need to have the last 0.3.0 ptr patch to use it |
| 03:22.55 | Adys | thats an old thing Wobin |
| 03:23.14 | Shadowed | mmm jade tiger sounds familiar |
| 03:23.39 | Adys | its a chinese event |
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| 03:24.27 | Shadowed | is it? damn chinese |
| 03:24.43 | Legorol | kd3: shit |
| 03:24.57 | kd3 | thus my annoyance in the email |
| 03:25.12 | kd3 | I'm still a gig away from being able to actually patch, even though I have it in front of me |
| 03:25.20 | Legorol | my problem is that my copy of PTR is stuck on the WoW-0.3.0.10571-to-0.3.0.10596-enGB-ptr patch, not able to complete that particular one, blaming file corruption |
| 03:25.37 | Legorol | i do have all the patches up to the last build, but it halts on that particular one |
| 03:26.20 | kd3 | do you still have the ptr installer? |
| 03:27.51 | Legorol | yes i do kd3 |
| 03:27.56 | Legorol | i was just hoping not have to start all over |
| 03:28.54 | kd3 | the solution I've got for you only has you downloading ~500megs of data or so instead of just shy of 2 gigs |
| 03:29.32 | kd3 | save the WoW-0.3.0.10522-enGB-ptr-patch.exe file and the ptr installer. wipe out your ptr folder and run the repair tool in the wow folder |
| 03:30.06 | kd3 | reinstall the ptr and move the patch file into your ptr folder, then run it. you'll be at the start of 0.3.0, 2 patches (400 and 100MB or so each) away from playing |
| 03:33.06 | kd3 | bibi, ping |
| 03:33.29 | Gnarfoz | kd3: I wonder what you're referring to, btw, there doesn't seem to be anything new in there ;o |
| 03:34.13 | Shadowed | hrm kd3 you sent out diffs right? |
| 03:34.22 | kd3 | ya |
| 03:34.22 | Shadowed | I think you keep deleting me from your list :p |
| 03:34.30 | kd3 | you're on it. I made sure you got it |
| 03:34.34 | kd3 | lemme double-check |
| 03:34.50 | Shadowed | Maybe it got flagged as spam for some reason |
| 03:35.31 | kd3 | I sent it to the email address you just mailed me from. |
| 03:35.50 | Shadowed | ah yup |
| 03:35.53 | Shadowed | flagged as spam |
| 03:35.59 | Torhal | Spammer! |
| 03:36.00 | Torhal | :D |
| 03:36.17 | kd3 | sigh |
| 03:36.21 | Shadowed | Which is weird, cause you were fine last time |
| 03:36.28 | kd3 | probably because I had a url this time |
| 03:37.03 | Adys | is the ptr eu up? |
| 03:37.09 | kd3 | afaik no |
| 03:37.22 | Gnarfoz | login server busy ;\ |
| 03:39.27 | Gnarfoz | so, frost lotus from frozen orbs... I guess I should start buying up the frozen orbs above 10g, too |
| 03:40.01 | Gnarfoz | one lotus is somewhere around 75g+ on my realm ;X |
| 03:40.07 | Adys | they'll prolly go down a lot |
| 03:40.12 | Adys | their droprate increased |
| 03:40.14 | Shadowed | drop rate was upped by 50% too |
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| 03:41.29 | Amarande | so what's the big money maker going to be now? |
| 03:41.31 | ScytheBlade1 | http://sc2.averageurl.com/unitinfo.php?id=a55ae6aa-4f7e-4eb2-b831-4160284afc34 |
| 03:41.32 | ScytheBlade1 | yey |
| 03:41.41 | Amarande | as I see Blizzard is taking steps to kill yet another high value AH item |
| 03:41.48 | kd3 | no longer an above average url? |
| 03:41.57 | ScytheBlade1 | I have that one as well |
| 03:41.59 | ScytheBlade1 | I should change that |
| 03:42.37 | ScytheBlade1 | http://sc2.aboveaverageurl.com/unitinfo.php?id=a55ae6aa-4f7e-4eb2-b831-4160284afc34 |
| 03:42.40 | ScytheBlade1 | there |
| 03:42.46 | Amarande | not that it would affect *me* that much as my usual seller items are thorium and runecloth |
| 03:43.29 | ScytheBlade1 | now to figure out why it isn't listing all of the stored unit data |
| 03:44.51 | Adys | blizz dler is just stupid. |
| 03:45.14 | kd3 | you're just now realizing this? |
| 03:45.25 | Adys | yea |
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| 03:58.11 | ScytheBlade1 | there we go |
| 03:58.12 | ScytheBlade1 | http://sc2.aboveaverageurl.com/ |
| 03:58.57 | kd3 | blah. GUIDs? |
| 03:59.16 | ScytheBlade1 | I hate numeric IDs |
| 03:59.18 | ScytheBlade1 | -hate- |
| 03:59.25 | ScytheBlade1 | That and this is all versioned based on build |
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| 04:07.22 | ScytheBlade1 | and locale, actually |
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| 04:33.12 | Cairenn | wooooo GOLD! |
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| 04:34.17 | Zyn | in Ass Wobbling On A Sled |
| 04:34.47 | Arrowmaster | did they end up doing anything about the track? |
| 04:35.08 | Zyn | one more death will fix that |
| 04:35.15 | Zyn | so far nothing |
| 04:35.57 | Arrowmaster | well i heard they were considering either trying to shape the turns more or having the men start from the same spot as the women so they wouldnt build up as much speed |
| 04:36.00 | Zyn | Finland Germany soon |
| 04:36.02 | Zyn | woooh |
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| 04:37.06 | Amarande | Arrow: luge? I seem to recall they put some sort of protection at the turn of doom, and had men start at the women's and women's at the juniors' start |
| 04:37.11 | Amarande | not that it seemed to change the speed much |
| 04:37.26 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 04:37.27 | Amarande | Loch was going at least as fast as the speed the Georgian guy died at |
| 04:37.38 | kd3 | eesh |
| 04:38.36 | Zyn | can't wait for luge to turn into an extreme sport; Luge Distance Jumping |
| 04:38.40 | Zyn | ¯\(°_o)/¯ |
| 04:38.53 | Arrowmaster | well that was still a freak accident even if its the fastest track in the world, there were statements that it was the first time theyd seen somebody thrown from the track like that |
| 04:39.21 | Cairenn | apparently another country pulled their team today, after another crash during practice runs |
| 04:39.25 | Thunder_Child | ya, usually people just jump |
| 04:39.33 | Cairenn | and plans on putting in a complaint with the IOF |
| 04:39.43 | Cairenn | thing is, IOF had to approve the track, so .... |
| 04:40.43 | kd3 | ...was about to say; like the IOF will actually do anything? |
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| 04:41.01 | Arrowmaster | would there be as many complaints though if there hadnt of been a death, just a lot of crashes |
| 04:41.15 | Shirik | wtf is the IOF |
| 04:41.18 | Shirik | ~iof |
| 04:41.21 | Cairenn | and like we don't feel like shit that there was a death? |
| 04:41.27 | Shirik | ~wiki iof |
| 04:41.29 | Legorol | kd3: do you happen to remember what the build number of the last PTR client was, before the patch(es) for 3.3.3? |
| 04:41.30 | Cairenn | international olympic committee |
| 04:41.34 | Adys | !api SetTexCoord |
| 04:41.35 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'SetTexCoord': Texture:SetTexCoord, Texture:SetTexCoordModifiesRect |
| 04:41.39 | Shirik | How the hell do you get F out of committee? |
| 04:41.40 | Adys | !api SetTexCoordModifiesRect |
| 04:41.41 | lua_bot | Texture:SetTexCoordModifiesRect: Sets whether modifying texture coordinates scales or crops the texture image (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Texture/SetTexCoordModifiesRect) |
| 04:41.41 | Shirik | Because they fail? |
| 04:41.43 | kd3 | WoW-0.3.0.10958-to-0.3.3.11573-enUS-ptr-patch.exe |
| 04:41.50 | Cairenn | errr, federation |
| 04:41.52 | Cairenn | gah |
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| 04:42.03 | Arrowmaster | i was going to say maybe its not english |
| 04:42.04 | Legorol | kd3: ok, so last testing phase concluded on 10958? |
| 04:42.08 | kd3 | yes |
| 04:42.08 | Cairenn | now I can't remember if it's IOC or IOF |
| 04:42.09 | Cairenn | bah |
| 04:42.28 | kd3 | there's one direct patch instead of the ~10 intersitials if you're just getting started on the ptr |
| 04:42.34 | kd3 | WoW-0.3.0.10522-to-0.3.0.10958-enUS-ptr-patch.exe |
| 04:42.40 | Legorol | kd3: i just reinstalled ptr from scratch, and it's downloading a single 10522-to-10958 patch, skipping over all the minor stages of the last PTR cycle |
| 04:42.48 | Legorol | lol, you just said the same as i typed :) |
| 04:42.51 | Adys | kd3: care to upload this one somewhere? |
| 04:43.04 | kd3 | the diff? sec |
| 04:43.08 | Adys | no the exe =P |
| 04:43.14 | Adys | i dont have access to US patches atm |
| 04:43.27 | Cairenn | IOC, not IOF, my mistake |
| 04:43.41 | kd3 | the patch itself? not on my upstream, no |
| 04:43.53 | Zyn | Japan ... more like YAPAN in curling |
| 04:43.56 | Zyn | yap yap yap yap |
| 04:44.04 | kd3 | 128k up would take a few weeks |
| 04:44.06 | Shirik | thwacks zyn |
| 04:44.11 | Adys | hah |
| 04:44.13 | Zyn | :[ |
| 04:44.31 | Shirik | Canada got another gold medal |
| 04:44.35 | Shirik | ? |
| 04:44.38 | Cairenn | yes |
| 04:44.40 | Shirik | how is this possible |
| 04:44.41 | Cairenn | Men's skels |
| 04:44.57 | Shirik | wtf is a skel |
| 04:45.06 | Shirik | not surprising canadians would win something nobody's ever heard of |
| 04:45.09 | Legorol | it's what people keep in their clos |
| 04:45.12 | Shadowed | Canadians are cheaters Shirik |
| 04:45.28 | Cairenn | it's not cheating if your spouse says you can! |
| 04:45.33 | Shirik | o.o; |
| 04:45.39 | kd3 | o_O |
| 04:45.53 | Shadowed | I am glad we've cleared that up Cairenn |
| 04:45.55 | Cairenn | giggles |
| 04:46.14 | Adys | um |
| 04:46.25 | Adys | wasnt pitbull 4 available for dl on wowi? |
| 04:46.45 | kd3 | if it was I never saw it; I've only been getting it off curse |
| 04:46.56 | Adys | mumbles |
| 04:47.36 | Adys | it's gonna need a lot of fixes for 333 |
| 04:48.33 | Shadowed | huh? |
| 04:48.34 | Shadowed | why |
| 04:48.49 | Adys | I dunno, a bunch of texture methods complaining atm |
| 04:48.51 | Adys | [06:41:41] <lua_bot> Texture:SetTexCoordModifiesRect: Sets whether modifying texture coordinates scales or crops the texture image (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/widgets/Texture/SetTexCoordModifiesRect) |
| 04:48.54 | Adys | this seems removed |
| 04:48.59 | Shadowed | weird |
| 04:52.50 | tem|afk | can't the mod just die? |
| 04:52.55 | tem|afk | wouldn't that be for the best? |
| 04:53.17 | Arrowmaster | pitbull4? why? |
| 04:53.44 | tem|afk | it's evil |
| 04:53.54 | tem|afk | the spawn of the prince of lies |
| 04:54.18 | tem|afk | I keed |
| 04:54.21 | tem|afk | (mostly) |
| 04:54.42 | tem|afk | I just think the excessive options are... well... excessive |
| 04:54.55 | tem|afk | and lead to a disturbingly large codebase |
| 04:55.00 | Thunder_Child | it's always the customizable ones that people hate |
| 04:55.10 | Thunder_Child | i loved DUF |
| 04:56.09 | Adys | tem|afk: theres no excess of option in pb4 |
| 04:56.12 | Adys | compared to pb3 at least |
| 04:56.39 | tem|afk | I can't really know since I haven' |
| 04:56.41 | tem|afk | t |
| 04:56.41 | Thunder_Child | there is no excess at all, if you dont want to use the options dont |
| 04:56.42 | tem|afk | looked |
| 04:56.45 | tem|afk | but I don't believe you |
| 04:56.47 | Thunder_Child | or the addon for that matter |
| 04:56.58 | Thunder_Child | but dont take away from the people that do like it |
| 04:57.03 | Shadowed | It just depends what you want. Most people don't need PB4 but they use it because that's what everyone suggests |
| 04:57.44 | Adys | I stopped caring so much about my UI since wotlk tbh |
| 04:57.54 | Shadowed | Basically every comment I get from ex-PB4 users are "I was able to do everything I wanted in a simpler way" |
| 04:57.57 | Adys | I keep it up to date as much as i can but Im far too lazy to try out new mods |
| 05:19.14 | Adys | ~ping |
| 05:19.15 | purl | ~pong |
| 05:19.23 | Shirik | lua> "\xFF" |
| 05:19.29 | lua_bot | Shirik: xFF |
| 05:19.34 | Adys | lua> "\FF" |
| 05:19.38 | lua_bot | Adys: FF |
| 05:19.44 | Adys | lua> "\fu" |
| 05:19.46 | lua_bot | Adys: u |
| 05:19.50 | Shirik | o.o; |
| 05:20.15 | Shirik | lua> tonumber("c0", 16), tonumber("af", 16) |
| 05:20.15 | lua_bot | Shirik: 192, 175 |
| 05:20.20 | Shirik | lua> "\192\175" |
| 05:20.20 | lua_bot | Shirik: À¯ |
| 05:20.28 | Shirik | hm |
| 05:22.51 | Shirik | lua> tonumber("c1", 16), tonumber("9c", 16) |
| 05:22.52 | lua_bot | Shirik: 193, 156 |
| 05:22.56 | Shirik | lua> "\193\156" |
| 05:22.57 | lua_bot | Shirik: Á |
| 05:22.59 | Shirik | ok |
| 05:23.01 | Shirik | who here knows unicode |
| 05:23.11 | Shirik | Why the hell does this say that should be a forward slash: http://www.sans.org/security-resources/malwarefaq/wnt-unicode.php |
| 05:28.12 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/latest |
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| 05:28.18 | Adys | npcs, quests, items etc up |
| 05:31.59 | sylvanaar | -£ |
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| 05:44.30 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: thats an illegal character technically, IIS fucking sucks at unicode it seems |
| 05:44.36 | Shirik | lol |
| 05:45.16 | Arrowmaster | 11000000 10101111 |
| 05:45.44 | sylvanaar | C0 means the next char is an ASCII 1-127 |
| 05:45.48 | Arrowmaster | 00000 101111 |
| 05:45.57 | sylvanaar | so does C1 |
| 05:46.07 | Arrowmaster | is what it is when you remove the parts that make it utf8 |
| 05:46.30 | Arrowmaster | C0 should be illegal |
| 05:47.05 | Arrowmaster | lua> "\47" |
| 05:47.08 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: / |
| 05:47.37 | Arrowmaster | its illegal because it can be encoded using less characters |
| 05:47.57 | sylvanaar | C0 and C1 are invalid UTF8 |
| 05:49.58 | sylvanaar | i'll take a guess and say, that C0 and C1 are valid for an older format that MS still supports |
| 05:50.15 | Arrowmaster | they shouldnt be at all |
| 05:50.19 | Shirik | lol @ "MS supports" |
| 05:50.23 | sylvanaar | i agree |
| 05:50.25 | WobWork | Adys: I love the instant statue pedastal |
| 05:50.29 | Shirik | MS also supports remote code execution! |
| 05:50.33 | Adys | WobWork: ya |
| 05:50.42 | Arrowmaster | afaik they were never used |
| 05:51.30 | Arrowmaster | now im trying to figure out the example code in this http://czyborra.com/utf/#UTF-8 and why it uses 0xC0 |
| 05:51.54 | Arrowmaster | thats some bit operation isnt it |
| 05:52.59 | sylvanaar | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C0_and_C1_control_codes |
| 05:53.02 | sylvanaar | all i got |
| 05:54.02 | sylvanaar | but it does explain where and how they are used |
| 05:54.12 | sylvanaar | anyhow this was educational |
| 06:09.51 | sylvanaar | interesting the unicode spec says that when converting UTF8 to unicode, you dont have to check that the shortest encoding is being used |
| 06:11.01 | sylvanaar | so decoding C0 N to N sounds valid |
| 06:11.25 | sylvanaar | just *encoding* it is invalid |
| 06:14.48 | sylvanaar | and that part is done by the person trying to exploit the weakness |
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| 06:16.40 | Arrowmaster | the problem with the IIS exploit Shirik linked was that some idiot added a '../../' check before the utf8 was normalized instead of after |
| 06:16.58 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 06:17.25 | Arrowmaster | the bigger problem is that IIS allows that kinda bullshit without that simple url check in place |
| 06:18.05 | sylvanaar | no argument there |
| 06:20.48 | ScytheBlade1 | noooooo |
| 06:20.56 | ScytheBlade1 | SC2 is doing what SC did to me |
| 06:21.06 | ScytheBlade1 | I should have been asleep hours ago :/ |
| 06:21.39 | Sixen | lol |
| 06:21.59 | Sixen | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:22.03 | Sixen | Didn't see the msg, sorry. |
| 06:22.58 | ScytheBlade1 | meh |
| 06:23.20 | ScytheBlade1 | I've seen massive green pylons, no idea how to get them :/ |
| 06:24.16 | Arrowmaster | you get a zerg queen to molest them, that turns them green |
| 06:24.25 | sylvanaar | i has no key |
| 06:26.50 | ScytheBlade1 | I really like the playstyle out of the zerg |
| 06:27.01 | ScytheBlade1 | the queens are crazy useful |
| 06:27.14 | Arrowmaster | hmm it seems my cable isnt limited to 512kbit upload like i thought, wonder what its at |
| 06:30.22 | Thunder_Child | i am unamused that even though you may have the superior force if your buildings get killed you lose |
| 06:31.04 | Arrowmaster | no suicide assult to completely destroy the enemy possible? |
| 06:31.23 | Thunder_Child | nope |
| 06:32.01 | Thunder_Child | i was playing a game where me and the oponent each took a huge army into the others base, even though mine was more powerfull he kill my buildings first and i lost |
| 06:32.08 | Thunder_Child | killed* |
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| 06:34.16 | ScytheBlade1 | sleep |
| 06:34.23 | ScytheBlade1 | 4h late, but sleep |
| 06:36.26 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1: isnt it a weekend for you? |
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| 06:55.24 | Adys | http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2010-02-20-n66.html |
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| 06:58.49 | WobWork | Adys: awesome |
| 06:58.59 | WobWork | I shall have to incorporate them into regular conversation |
| 06:59.27 | WobWork | meanwhile, after leeching work network bandwidth, my netbook is up to 3.3.0a |
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| 07:00.53 | WobWork | http://www.anactivesite.ch:8080/temp/PeopleofInfluencePainting.html |
| 07:01.05 | Adys | I linked that yesterday |
| 07:06.55 | airtonix | Schrödinger's cat is missing a link on that image |
| 07:07.35 | Shadowed | Depends if the people have to be alive to be on the painting |
| 07:07.49 | Shadowed | actually I guess Bill Clinton isn't dead yet so it doesn't matter |
| 07:07.59 | airtonix | well i can see the cat so it must be true |
| 07:08.25 | Shadowed | we can pretend the cat in the far middle left is his cat |
| 07:08.49 | airtonix | too late i've closed the page so none of them exist |
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| 07:17.41 | airtonix | ... |
| 07:19.20 | Shirik | lol |
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| 07:20.14 | Adys | i dont see the cat |
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| 08:30.09 | jadakren | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:30.35 | jadakren | (minus the first comma) |
| 08:32.39 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 08:32.52 | Arrowmaster | well not in a table but in a metatable |
| 08:33.55 | jadakren | are you implying that having that entry does not make a table into a metatable ? |
| 08:34.02 | Arrowmaster | yes |
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| 08:35.01 | Arrowmaster | lua> local t,mt={},{}; setmetatable(t,mt); mt.__index="Hello World"; print(t.hello) |
| 08:35.03 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: nil |
| 08:35.16 | Arrowmaster | ok i fail it seems |
| 08:35.45 | Arrowmaster | lua> local t,mt={},{}; setmetatable(t,mt); mt.__index=function() return "Hello World" end; print(t.hello) |
| 08:35.46 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: Hello World |
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| 08:36.43 | Arrowmaster | you can cheat and only use 1 table though |
| 08:37.00 | Arrowmaster | lua> local t={}; setmetatable(t,t); t.__index=function() return "Hello World" end; print(t.hello) |
| 08:37.01 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: Hello World |
| 08:37.26 | Arrowmaster | but thats not commonly done |
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| 08:59.40 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2010/02/a_real_pot_holder_i_get_it_i_g.php |
| 09:00.04 | Corrodias | lols. >:| |
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| 10:47.04 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP_lZaOchE0 |
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| 12:15.11 | Fisker | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/ed4f2d0910f2d72098a3ffdc30ec9eea.jpg <-look at my exalted level |
| 12:17.18 | airtonix | Fisker, you've been paying blizzard money for too long |
| 12:18.09 | airtonix | !8ball |
| 12:18.09 | batbot | airtonix, Probably. |
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| 12:42.14 | Legorol | Has anyone else noticed a small bug with warrior's Rage bar on the PTR: every time I zone, the bar is displayed as if I was stuck on 50 rage, even though I have 0 (and the numbers correctly show 0). |
| 12:42.23 | Legorol | The bar only sets to the right amount if I gain or lose rage. |
| 12:44.03 | jnwhiteh | grr |
| 12:44.11 | jnwhiteh | i'm 53 gear score below what I need to be to get into ICC |
| 12:45.03 | jnwhiteh | I think any upgrade from my 200 ilevel trinket would fix that |
| 12:45.04 | nevcairiel | so wear some sucky item that has a higher ilvl |
| 12:45.11 | nevcairiel | from another spec, or so |
| 12:45.13 | jnwhiteh | i can't find trinkets. |
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| 12:45.28 | jnwhiteh | i suppose I could go buy the latest PVP trinket =/ |
| 12:46.17 | nevcairiel | i dont even know my gearscore, and if someone asks me, i wont be interested to group with him anymore |
| 12:46.22 | jnwhiteh | wow-heroes.com |
| 12:46.37 | jnwhiteh | i dont have a choice, sadly. |
| 12:47.07 | Legorol | jnwhiteh: there are trinkets for triumph emblems |
| 12:47.13 | Legorol | they are 45 or 50 if i remember right |
| 12:47.21 | Legorol | and they are ilvl 245 |
| 12:47.30 | jnwhiteh | and for a resto druid they're an utter waste of badged |
| 12:47.31 | jnwhiteh | =/ |
| 12:47.35 | Legorol | yes they are |
| 12:47.39 | Legorol | but they get you into pugs |
| 12:48.07 | jnwhiteh | i'd have to run another 10 heroics to get one right now. |
| 12:48.11 | jnwhiteh | and id ont have the patience for that today |
| 12:48.17 | jnwhiteh | i'd rather run ony 25, toc 10 |
| 12:48.18 | jnwhiteh | >< |
| 12:48.23 | Shadowed | jnwhiteh if you have any spare WG badges/stonekeeper shards you could try buying that PVP gear |
| 12:48.31 | jnwhiteh | Shadowed: they're not high enough ilevel to make a diff |
| 12:48.32 | jnwhiteh | 213 |
| 12:48.39 | Shadowed | new stuff should be higher? |
| 12:48.39 | Legorol | then try pleading with the guy: link him some impressive achievements, reassure him you know the tactics, and tell him you are better than most people with 500 less GS |
| 12:48.51 | Shadowed | tell him you made Lightheaded and tomtom |
| 12:48.59 | Legorol | that's a good idea |
| 12:49.15 | Shadowed | tacky yes |
| 12:49.53 | jnwhiteh | I'm sick of begging |
| 12:49.56 | jnwhiteh | so I'll just stop playing. |
| 12:49.58 | Legorol | Fisker: ha, only revered with Hydraxians? not enough MC farming back in the days? |
| 12:50.02 | Shadowed | I vote threaten |
| 12:50.11 | Shadowed | "If you don't invite me, I'll add code into my addons to delete all your items" |
| 12:50.17 | Legorol | jnwhiteh: sadly, the game is good and it's not the game's fault that morons are obsessed by GS :*( |
| 12:50.28 | Shadowed | also new WG stuff is 240+: http://www.wowhead.com/?item=43589#currency-for:0-2+1 |
| 12:50.42 | nevcairiel | jnwhiteh: we should team up and delete gearscore from the addon pages =P |
| 12:50.47 | jnwhiteh | Shadowed: see any trinkets in that list? |
| 12:50.57 | Shadowed | oh trinkets |
| 12:50.57 | Shadowed | hrm |
| 12:51.05 | jnwhiteh | I know I'm not the best geared |
| 12:51.08 | jnwhiteh | but I'm far from shit gearerd |
| 12:51.09 | jnwhiteh | http://wow-heroes.com/index.php?zone=eu&server=Emerald%20Dream&name=Derwydd |
| 12:51.23 | Shadowed | just shill elitistarmory when it's done to kill the retarded scoring! |
| 12:51.25 | nevcairiel | is that "score" they show the same as gearscore? |
| 12:51.29 | Shadowed | no |
| 12:51.33 | Shadowed | Same concept, different formula |
| 12:51.39 | jnwhiteh | its HGS |
| 12:51.43 | mikma | hoho |
| 12:51.44 | jnwhiteh | which is all my server will accept |
| 12:51.50 | jnwhiteh | 'wow-heroes' gs |
| 12:51.54 | mikma | "yo dood, i created some good shit, invite me" |
| 12:52.00 | jnwhiteh | which is much better than fucking gearscore. |
| 12:52.05 | nevcairiel | it is? |
| 12:52.06 | Shadowed | huh? |
| 12:52.14 | Shadowed | It's the exact same thing, except they *slightly* modify it by enchants |
| 12:52.24 | jnwhiteh | *srug* |
| 12:52.26 | nevcairiel | wow-heroes does actually say that you should focus on ICC content wise |
| 12:52.30 | nevcairiel | how can they argue with that, then! |
| 12:52.33 | jnwhiteh | shockingly, yeah |
| 12:52.57 | jnwhiteh | so i'm doing the highest green raid i can |
| 12:53.03 | jnwhiteh | cause i can get into that >< |
| 12:53.08 | Shadowed | I wonder if I can reverse the wowheroes formula to toss it into EA |
| 12:53.10 | Legorol | nevcairiel: it's easy to argue with, if your upgrades are from ICC it means you don't overgear it, so you are not wanted |
| 12:53.14 | jnwhiteh | plus I'm on an EU server |
| 12:53.19 | jnwhiteh | so bragging about my addons doesn't help. |
| 12:53.30 | nevcairiel | why not? |
| 12:53.38 | Legorol | nevcairiel: because puggers want easy rides |
| 12:53.40 | jnwhiteh | much less people use them in eu |
| 12:53.40 | Shadowed | EU doesn't know about at least one of your addons? |
| 12:53.44 | jnwhiteh | than in us |
| 12:53.45 | Shadowed | ah |
| 12:53.46 | nevcairiel | I randomly get people that whisper me and thank me for my stuff |
| 12:53.55 | Legorol | jnwhiteh: you pvp-d on that druid? |
| 12:53.56 | nevcairiel | some even sent me gold |
| 12:54.00 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 12:54.06 | Legorol | maybe if you tell the dood you are good at pvp and link your rating? |
| 12:54.10 | Legorol | so that he can see you can play at elast |
| 12:54.10 | Fisker | what addon is that jnwhiteh ? |
| 12:54.11 | jnwhiteh | nope |
| 12:54.14 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: addon? |
| 12:54.22 | jnwhiteh | Don't have a rating worthwhile. |
| 12:54.24 | nevcairiel | you're even nearly epic-gem'ed, i cant say that about my stuff :P |
| 12:54.27 | Fisker | [13:53:44] <Shadowed> EU doesn't know about at least one of your addons? |
| 12:54.27 | Fisker | [13:53:44] <@jnwhiteh> much less people use them in eu |
| 12:54.29 | jnwhiteh | you didn't ask if I was successful at pvp |
| 12:54.38 | Legorol | here is the sad truth: i even understand people who require high GS for pugs. |
| 12:54.54 | nevcairiel | ( i didn't re-gem my old gear after epic gems came out, just toss them in new stuff) |
| 12:54.55 | Legorol | I mean, in the absence of information about people you are about to take, making sure that at least their gear is high level, is a sensible thing. |
| 12:55.04 | Legorol | There is no way to tell that jnwhiteh is an imba player :( |
| 12:55.19 | jnwhiteh | i'm a healer, a druid at that |
| 12:55.24 | jnwhiteh | there's no way to tell if I'm a good play by grouping with me =) |
| 12:55.27 | Fisker | rages |
| 12:55.30 | Legorol | that too |
| 12:55.32 | jnwhiteh | 'umm, he had hots up.. i guess that's good' |
| 12:55.48 | jnwhiteh | this group is flasking for ony25 |
| 12:55.48 | nevcairiel | sure there is, if you play that class too |
| 12:55.50 | jnwhiteh | this should be a laugh |
| 12:56.00 | nevcairiel | when i play my DK, i always pay attention how druid healers play |
| 12:56.02 | Maldivia | jnwhiteh: for non druid healer, true, it's hard to tell :) |
| 12:56.02 | Legorol | whilst gearscore is obviously not a very good indicator of skill, it can't be argued that (even if weakly) there is positive correlation between gearscore and experience |
| 12:56.13 | Legorol | and a small amount of positive correlation (even if not causal relation) is better than nothing |
| 12:56.14 | jnwhiteh | even as a druid healer, with the numbers, its fairly difficult. |
| 12:56.32 | Shadowed | eh, not really Legorol |
| 12:56.34 | jnwhiteh | its either people die, or they don't. |
| 12:56.45 | Legorol | Shadowed: are you implying that the correlation between GS and experience is 0 or even negative? |
| 12:56.46 | Shadowed | the correlation is very very tiny due to how they've inflated item levels |
| 12:56.52 | Legorol | absolutely |
| 12:56.54 | Legorol | however, |
| 12:56.58 | Shadowed | I'm saying that the correlation is so very small you can't even measure it |
| 12:56.59 | nevcairiel | If another healer crys for my innervate, and i can do fine through the whole fight, they usually suck :) |
| 12:57.04 | Legorol | in the absence of any other information, going on small correlation is better than nothing |
| 12:57.19 | Shadowed | but yes, the reason the single scores are so popular is because most people are stupid |
| 12:57.22 | Maldivia | hmm, wow-heroes' compare doens't wirk? |
| 12:57.39 | Legorol | Shadowed: not necessarily stupid, just lazy. |
| 12:57.45 | Shadowed | but yes, the reason the single scores are so popular is because most people are stupid :p |
| 12:57.45 | Legorol | It's far easier to look at one number than to hold an interview |
| 12:57.53 | nevcairiel | Its sitll silly to set some hard-cap on those scores. sure take them as a starting point, but if someone is 30 points below a set limit, who cares |
| 12:58.12 | Legorol | nevcairiel: what's the point of setting a cap if you don't follow it though |
| 12:58.28 | Legorol | if you say: need 5000 GS, then start taking people with 4970, why stop there? why not take 4900? or 4500? |
| 12:58.45 | nevcairiel | ebcause 30 is nothing, while 500 is a bit more. |
| 12:58.59 | Legorol | then why don't you just set your threshold at 4970 to start with and adhere to it strictly |
| 12:59.00 | Legorol | same thing |
| 12:59.09 | jnwhiteh | brb ony. |
| 12:59.11 | nevcairiel | You don't get the point |
| 12:59.14 | Legorol | you can think of the 5000 GS requirement as "i want to take people with 5030, but i am willing to go down to 5000" |
| 12:59.28 | Legorol | no i don't get the point, youa re right |
| 12:59.32 | nevcairiel | 30 in that scale is nothing |
| 12:59.35 | nevcairiel | it doesnt matter a bit |
| 12:59.44 | Legorol | but lots of 30s matter |
| 12:59.46 | nevcairiel | you say 5000 because you dont want people with 4000 to annoy you |
| 13:00.04 | Legorol | but youa re happy with people with 4970 annoying you, so why not just say 4970 and make it strict? |
| 13:00.31 | nevcairiel | because strictness is bad |
| 13:00.31 | Legorol | i'm saying a stated threshold of X where you are willing to go Y amount lower is the same as a strict stated threshold of X-Y |
| 13:00.38 | Shadowed | half the problem is, the item level dropped doesn't imply difficulty |
| 13:00.44 | Legorol | no it's not, because otherwise the other people int he group complain |
| 13:00.51 | Shadowed | it varies wayyy too much based on role and the other groups makeup |
| 13:00.52 | nevcairiel | Having a score of 5000 doesnt magically make you good |
| 13:00.53 | Legorol | (in answer to nevcairiel) |
| 13:01.07 | nevcairiel | "sorry, you're missing 1 points, you cant come" is just douchebaggery |
| 13:01.53 | Legorol | so what you are saying that in order to not look like a prick, you have an actual but hidden threshold (say 4950), but you state 5000? |
| 13:02.12 | Legorol | if you state 5000 but willing to go down by X, that's the same thing as having a threshold of 5000-X |
| 13:02.21 | nevcairiel | to not be a prick, you're just nice to other people |
| 13:02.31 | nevcairiel | its as simple as that |
| 13:02.32 | Legorol | that's a perfectly valid reason for having such a convoluted rule set :) |
| 13:02.38 | Legorol | it's a lot simpler to just say 4950 though ;P |
| 13:02.39 | nevcairiel | people dont think in rules |
| 13:02.43 | Legorol | i do! |
| 13:02.49 | nevcairiel | they came up with some number like 5000 |
| 13:02.50 | Legorol | i'm not a people |
| 13:02.53 | nevcairiel | completly out of their ass |
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| 13:03.21 | Legorol | i make it a lot simpler: unless i'm doing ICC, i don't ask for GS |
| 13:03.27 | Legorol | sure i sometimes end up carrying someone, but |
| 13:03.29 | nevcairiel | I would never ask for GS |
| 13:03.41 | Shadowed | ^ |
| 13:03.42 | nevcairiel | And i would never group with someone that does |
| 13:03.45 | Legorol | statistically, on my realm, a random crosssection of puggers is usually good enough for what i want to do |
| 13:03.47 | Legorol | bbl |
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| 13:07.26 | pfctry | Can someone tell me whats the easiest way to execute a function based on time? For instance i want to print a messge every 5 seconds. |
| 13:07.50 | nevcairiel | OnUpdate |
| 13:08.27 | pfctry | <3 u |
| 13:09.44 | jnwhiteh | gah, shit drops. |
| 13:12.54 | Maldivia | jnwhiteh: doesn't that always happen on ony? |
| 13:13.04 | jnwhiteh | yeahh |
| 13:13.50 | Maldivia | never really gotten anything from her, or well, the week she was re-released, I got her head on 3 chars :) |
| 13:13.58 | jnwhiteh | with gearscores, do you suffer for not having an offhand? |
| 13:14.23 | haste | depends on the item level on your mh probably |
| 13:14.26 | Maldivia | doubt it, but wouldn't surprise me |
| 13:15.16 | Fisker | haste |
| 13:15.19 | Fisker | i hate haste |
| 13:15.19 | jnwhiteh | i mean 2h versus 1h + offhand |
| 13:15.38 | theorbtwo | I'd be pretty silly if it penelized you for using a twohander. |
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| 13:16.36 | jnwhiteh | i agree, but i dont put it past these people |
| 13:18.13 | olafski | try looking at your gearscore with a 2h or 1h/offhand, all of the same ilvl |
| 13:18.24 | Fisker | i troll u jnwhiteh |
| 13:18.25 | olafski | not too conclusive though I guess |
| 13:19.42 | Maldivia | looking over the code, when calculating the score, item slot 17 is ignored, and tht would be the off-hand |
| 13:19.48 | Fisker | haste i got trolled by an overlord :( |
| 13:20.35 | Maldivia | ahh, nevermind, it's handled seperately to take titan's grip into account |
| 13:25.53 | Fisker | ;_; |
| 13:25.54 | Fisker | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/8ebc03ab5b86abca8f6a652be0254f2a.Jpg |
| 13:27.32 | Fisker | ~seen kd3 |
| 13:27.34 | purl | kd3 is currently on #wowhead (2h 27m 20s) #wowuidev (2h 27m 20s) #wowace (2h 27m 20s) #wowwiki (2h 27m 20s), last said: 'if it was I never saw it; I've only been getting it off curse'. |
| 13:28.23 | Fisker | kd3 |
| 13:28.26 | Fisker | i haaaaaaaaate you |
| 13:28.42 | mikma | nub |
| 13:29.14 | Fisker | :( |
| 13:29.29 | Fisker | to be fair we ended up killing us both |
| 13:29.59 | Fisker | Though he had some defense i didn't :P |
| 13:30.13 | Fisker | so he had like a spawning pool and some zerglings left |
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| 13:35.20 | jnwhiteh | gah |
| 13:35.25 | jnwhiteh | 701 stone keeper shards |
| 13:35.43 | Fisker | or 4 epic gems jnwhiteh |
| 13:35.52 | jnwhiteh | meh i just buy epic gems |
| 13:35.55 | jnwhiteh | i waste money like crazy |
| 13:36.03 | jnwhiteh | that being said, |
| 13:36.07 | jnwhiteh | i wish i had the vendor mount, lol |
| 13:36.16 | jnwhiteh | 6500g sitting here doing nothing right now. |
| 13:36.20 | Fisker | That's why buying them for honor = moneys |
| 13:36.25 | Fisker | "oooh" |
| 13:36.33 | Fisker | i got ~45000g sitting here doing nothing |
| 13:37.19 | jnwhiteh | the raw gems don't sell for much, i think |
| 13:37.20 | jnwhiteh | on my server |
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| 13:37.43 | Fisker | how much is not much? |
| 13:38.51 | jnwhiteh | i dunno |
| 13:40.57 | jnwhiteh | we always have wg on my server |
| 13:41.02 | jnwhiteh | so i get mass shards by random heroics |
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| 13:58.01 | nevcairiel | the red ones go for 170+ here, even raw |
| 13:59.01 | olafski | gonna save all my stone keeper shards for that next patch |
| 13:59.09 | olafski | then I can finally buy the pvp tabards without having to do shitty battlegrounds :P |
| 13:59.57 | nevcairiel | i used them all to buy honor, and in turn buy gems :d |
| 14:01.38 | olafski | yeah I was going to do that last night |
| 14:01.47 | olafski | until I remembered the stuff about honor rewards |
| 14:02.08 | olafski | looks like I have about 1700 shards |
| 14:03.35 | nevcairiel | i have like 5k gold in gems on the AH now, and half of them sold already |
| 14:03.37 | nevcairiel | silly world |
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| 14:14.53 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
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| 14:18.55 | harl | wuff |
| 14:20.09 | olafski | not bad |
| 14:20.44 | olafski | all these shards would only turn into about 11 gems.. bleh |
| 14:20.56 | olafski | I just do my transmutes each day and make money that way :) |
| 14:21.33 | nevcairiel | i only have one alchemist .. i used to sell titansteel as well, but they are going to remove the cooldown of that, so who knows where the price of that will go |
| 14:21.48 | olafski | :) |
| 14:22.00 | olafski | I have two.. gotta roll my druid an alchemist too I guess |
| 14:22.44 | olafski | nice that love is in the air finally ends today.. space in my bags <3 |
| 14:22.57 | olafski | (yes I know I could've just cleaned them out and dropped the kit :P) |
| 14:24.04 | olafski | on another note, the difference between my old and new screen is quite noticable :< |
| 14:24.36 | nevcairiel | not positvely, i guess? |
| 14:25.29 | olafski | no :( |
| 14:25.37 | olafski | I'll get used to it I guess |
| 14:26.15 | Fisker | look at my horse olafski |
| 14:31.07 | mikma | is it amazing? |
| 14:31.15 | mikma | http://mikma.eu/sekret/01-Amazing_Horse.mp3 (extended) |
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| 15:08.24 | Thrae | OK, does anyone else think GearScore is actually more of a blight on WoW? |
| 15:08.42 | nevcairiel | we all think that |
| 15:09.15 | nevcairiel | because we're smart enough, not like the other 90% of wow players |
| 15:10.10 | Thrae | "You can't tank PoS (H), your GS is too low." "I tanked it fine about 5 times so far." "But...I'm having keeping you up! I never have trouble healing!" |
| 15:10.33 | Thrae | Of course, it's better when the DPS blames the tank's GS for why they keep getting aggro. |
| 15:11.28 | Kalroth | I am not a number, I am a free orc! |
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| 15:18.54 | jnwhiteh | LF1M tank for ICC10, pst. |
| 15:18.56 | Wobin | Kalroth, Soylent Green is made from orc! |
| 15:19.15 | Kalroth | zug zug! |
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| 15:32.50 | foxlit | Gr. |
| 15:33.07 | foxlit | 1, 3, 6, 10, 15, 21, 28, 26, 45, ... |
| 15:33.30 | nevcairiel | if thats 36 there, it makes sense |
| 15:33.34 | foxlit | yes. |
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| 15:33.48 | foxlit | n(x) = n(x-1) + x; n(1) = 1 |
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| 15:34.22 | foxlit | Can I express that without recursion, I wonder |
| 15:36.24 | olafski | hmm.. not doing the quest that lets me enter HoR = win :D |
| 15:36.24 | nevcairiel | with a sum, sure |
| 15:36.44 | nevcairiel | n(x) = sum(i = 1..x) i |
| 15:37.10 | nevcairiel | can't draw funyn sum symbols in irc |
| 15:37.50 | p3lim | anyone got a diff file for the new PTR? |
| 15:38.07 | p3lim | whole FrameXML |
| 15:38.08 | olafski | Σ |
| 15:38.21 | nevcairiel | i can draw the sign, but usually stuff goes above and below it :p |
| 15:38.26 | olafski | ah okay :P |
| 15:38.27 | nevcairiel | and that, icant do |
| 15:38.38 | olafski | \Sigma_{i=1}^x |
| 15:38.39 | olafski | :) |
| 15:41.52 | nevcairiel | foxlit: ((x+1) * x) / 2 should be the result, too |
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| 15:51.31 | Fisker | @ seen nicoli_s |
| 15:51.46 | Fisker | fuuu |
| 15:51.49 | Fisker | @seen nicoli_s |
| 15:51.51 | Fisker | wait |
| 15:51.55 | Fisker | FFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUU- |
| 15:52.00 | Fisker | ~seen nicoli_s |
| 15:52.01 | purl | nicoli_s is currently on #waruidev (1d 19h 43m 23s) #sc2mapster (1d 19h 43m 23s) #wowuidev (1d 19h 43m 23s) #arl (1d 19h 43m 23s) #wowace (1d 19h 43m 23s) #curseforge (1d 19h 43m 23s). Has said a total of 45 messages. Is idling for 16h 47m 36s, last said: 'heya sixen'. |
| 15:52.32 | nevcairiel | ~fail Fisker |
| 15:52.33 | purl | Fisker, you Fail! |
| 15:52.52 | nevcairiel | I still think they should pay me for using mapster in their sc2 page name thing |
| 15:53.06 | Fisker | i disagree |
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| 16:17.43 | LebQzz | ~seen LebQzz |
| 16:17.45 | purl | lebqzz is currently on #wowuidev (4d 6h 45m 56s) #wowace (4d 6h 45m 56s) #curseforge (4d 6h 45m 56s). Has said a total of 300 messages. Is idling for 2s, last said: '~seen LebQzz'. |
| 16:17.58 | LebQzz | lol a clear 300 ;P |
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| 16:33.10 | Lunessa | station |
| 16:37.29 | foxlit | "nevcairiel: foxlit: ((x+1) * x) / 2 should be the result, too" << Is what I was looking for. |
| 16:37.57 | Fisker | busstop |
| 16:38.53 | foxlit | It's a sum of an arithmetic sequence, which should've made it obvious :( |
| 16:42.58 | Cide | um |
| 16:43.30 | Cide | if it was a sum of an arithmetic sequence wouldn't it be (1+x)/2? |
| 16:43.55 | Cide | oh, times x |
| 16:43.57 | Cide | I'm stupid |
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| 16:47.51 | Fisker | http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/8571/makeawish.jpg lol |
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| 17:10.50 | pfctry | any idea why "local checkhit = buttontable[xxx][yyy]:GetText()" throws this: attempt to index field '?' (a nil value) ?? |
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| 17:20.46 | cbreak | pfctry: because buttontable doesn't have an entry at xxx |
| 17:21.02 | cbreak | or the table it contains doesn't have an entry at yyy |
| 17:21.04 | pfctry | does |
| 17:21.05 | pfctry | ! |
| 17:21.16 | pfctry | does Q_Q |
| 17:21.21 | cbreak | show |
| 17:21.43 | Cide- | ur doin it wrong |
| 17:21.47 | Cide- | www.lua.org/pil |
| 17:21.53 | pfctry | Q_Q |
| 17:21.56 | pfctry | got 2 fors |
| 17:21.58 | pfctry | and then |
| 17:22.03 | pfctry | buttab[count1][count2] = CreateFrame("Button", "button", frame, "UIPanelButtonTemplate") |
| 17:22.20 | cbreak | so? |
| 17:22.31 | Cide- | what's the error |
| 17:22.37 | Cide- | and what're the values of count1 and count2 |
| 17:22.44 | cbreak | your error is probably that you never create the table |
| 17:22.51 | cbreak | where you want to put the frames in |
| 17:23.08 | Cide- | hence |
| 17:23.10 | Cide- | ur doin it wrong |
| 17:23.15 | pfctry | the frames are displayed, scripts are working etc, just in a diffrent function it gives me this error |
| 17:23.27 | cbreak | so? |
| 17:23.35 | pfctry | so? |
| 17:23.35 | cbreak | frames don't have to be put into tables to be displayed |
| 17:23.50 | pfctry | they do when you have 100 similar ones |
| 17:23.54 | pfctry | unless you wanna create |
| 17:23.55 | cbreak | your table handling code is wrong |
| 17:23.56 | pfctry | 100 vars |
| 17:24.05 | cbreak | not your button display code |
| 17:24.07 | Cide- | maybe you should try to paste the code |
| 17:24.17 | pfctry | 200 lines? |
| 17:24.19 | pfctry | :F |
| 17:24.34 | Cide- | maybe you should try to narrow it down |
| 17:25.31 | pfctry | print("BSdebug.RecievedMessage: " .. cmdtable[1] .. " " .. cmdtable[2] .. " " .. cmdtable[3] .." ") |
| 17:25.33 | pfctry | local xxx = cmdtable[2] |
| 17:25.34 | pfctry | local yyy = cmdtable[3] |
| 17:25.36 | pfctry | local checkhit = buttontable[xxx][yyy]:GetText() |
| 17:25.37 | pfctry | that print |
| 17:25.39 | pfctry | tells me |
| 17:25.41 | pfctry | that the variables i use to index |
| 17:25.43 | pfctry | the table |
| 17:25.44 | pfctry | are OK |
| 17:25.46 | pfctry | in range |
| 17:25.48 | pfctry | etc |
| 17:25.49 | pfctry | correct |
| 17:25.51 | pfctry | but still |
| 17:25.53 | pfctry | gives me this error |
| 17:25.54 | cbreak | not really |
| 17:26.10 | pfctry | ... |
| 17:26.19 | cbreak | honestly, pastebin the code :) |
| 17:26.26 | cbreak | if it would be correct, it'd work |
| 17:27.30 | Fisker | prepare to be boarded cbreak |
| 17:36.46 | pfctry | duh...... |
| 17:36.50 | pfctry | tonumber... |
| 17:36.53 | pfctry | fixed it |
| 17:37.14 | pfctry | wtb ints and strings Q_Q |
| 17:38.37 | cbreak | lua has strings and numbers |
| 17:39.08 | cbreak | lua> n = 2 s = "2" print(type(n), n, type(s), s) |
| 17:39.09 | lua_bot | cbreak: number, 2, string, 2 |
| 17:39.25 | cbreak | lua> n = 2 s = "2" print(s == n) |
| 17:39.25 | lua_bot | cbreak: false |
| 17:39.30 | cbreak | all quite natural |
| 17:43.23 | Lunessa | http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/02/google-can-sell-power-like-a-utility/ |
| 17:43.33 | pfctry | i know it has, but the vars have dynamic types, im into C languages, so it was kinda new for me... |
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| 17:48.00 | cog|away | Fisker: YOU'RE a towell |
| 17:48.40 | Fisker | why am i a towel? |
| 17:49.09 | zenzelezz | shakes a cowbell at Fisker |
| 17:51.33 | cog|away | wonders how many blue people he'll see this halloween |
| 17:51.45 | Fisker | none |
| 17:51.48 | Fisker | Blizzard hates you |
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| 18:01.33 | Lunessa | cogwheel: The number of blue people you see will largely depend on the quantity and quality of hallucinogenics you consume. |
| 18:03.43 | Cide- | mostly quality |
| 18:08.02 | Lunessa | Quality hallucinogenics are hard to come by legally. |
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| 18:11.30 | Cide- | oh, I go for quantity myself |
| 18:11.39 | Cide- | but I wouldn't recommend it |
| 18:12.09 | Cide- | (un)related: user interface design is difficult |
| 18:13.20 | Lunessa | Cide: Yes, it is. |
| 18:15.19 | Lunessa | What are you working on that needs an interface? |
| 18:16.08 | Cide- | the world editor/mapper for our game |
| 18:16.27 | Cide- | need to figure out the most intuitive way to use it |
| 18:17.03 | Thrae | Is there a PvP macro modifier? |
| 18:17.10 | Lunessa | Thrae: No |
| 18:17.42 | Lunessa | Thrae: [combat] is as close as blizzard has ever made for that. |
| 18:17.59 | foxlit | It bugs me that the armory apparently remembers my password |
| 18:17.59 | Thrae | Yeah I've been having problems with my all-in-one Travel Macro w/ Wintergrasp, which is returnning flyable even though you can't fly until the PvP contest is over. |
| 18:18.29 | Lunessa | Yeah, I usually include a modifier key to force the ground mount. |
| 18:18.32 | Thrae | Need to re-think my logic, since you also can't check certain zones AFAIK... |
| 18:18.39 | Thrae | Yeah that's what I've been doing |
| 18:19.12 | foxlit | You could just throw more code at it |
| 18:19.33 | foxlit | Since you can only mount out of combat, you're free to use insecure code, which makes things relatively easy |
| 18:20.01 | Thrae | foxlit: Yeah which is where "Mounty" and others come in |
| 18:20.35 | foxlit | Thrae: so, problem solved? |
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| 18:51.30 | kd3 | oh geez. bad. worldport's up on the ptr |
| 18:52.37 | Lunessa | I'm confused. |
| 18:54.12 | kd3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:54.49 | Lunessa | Oh. Yeah. Bad. |
| 18:55.05 | LebQzz | hmm the armor durabilityman.. anyone know framename? |
| 18:55.18 | Lunessa | I didn't realize the PTR was up until I saw I had new diffs from you. |
| 18:56.58 | Amarande | kd3: quick, get the detailed scoop on the GM island for the wowwiki article |
| 18:57.47 | kd3 | nein. we don't do exploits |
| 18:58.00 | Adys | anyone knows the status of pitbull4 updates for 3.3.3? |
| 18:59.05 | mikma | kd3: lolz, SS or it didn't happen |
| 19:00.24 | Stanzilla | Adys: what's broken? |
| 19:00.39 | Adys | a bunch of lua errors |
| 19:00.43 | Adys | mostly portraits |
| 19:01.17 | Stanzilla | http://www.wowace.com/addons/pitbull4/create-ticket/ :> |
| 19:02.11 | Adys | kd3: which server are you on? |
| 19:02.25 | kd3 | on the ptr? brox |
| 19:04.17 | kd3 | and uh, yeah. it's working |
| 19:04.25 | kd3 | 's chilling in the emerald dream on a level 1 |
| 19:04.42 | Amarande | still can't play without hardware or OS changes |
| 19:05.38 | Zyonin | I can only hope I can get back into WoW before all the pre Cat stuff starts |
| 19:05.38 | Lunessa | ... please make the people stop asking me to support goofy shit. |
| 19:05.59 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 19:06.04 | mikma | kd3: ss please! |
| 19:06.41 | Fisker | yay kd3 i can go get some account names as well then |
| 19:06.57 | Fisker | bah |
| 19:06.59 | Fisker | not on eu servers |
| 19:07.01 | Fisker | fffffffffuuuuuuuuuu kd3 |
| 19:08.39 | Fisker | Adys know of an extension to chrome that will stop assuming i want to stream media files and just let me download them instead? |
| 19:08.44 | Amarande | define goofy shit, Lunessa |
| 19:08.54 | kd3 | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/1f427d865f127d51e3c6c0f017f47e1d.jpg |
| 19:08.59 | kd3 | mikma ^ |
| 19:09.04 | Fisker | reported kd3 |
| 19:09.16 | Lunessa | Someone just called me about their home computer and asked me to repair a hardware problem. I work for a university help desk. |
| 19:09.25 | Bruners | Fisker: reporting for what? |
| 19:09.34 | Fisker | exploitation Bruners |
| 19:09.45 | Amarande | man these scammers are stooooopid. I just got two emails last night claiming my WoW account is being used for illegal purposes. |
| 19:09.50 | mikma | kd3: that place is so pretty |
| 19:09.51 | Amarande | my WoW account isn't even subscribed right now. |
| 19:10.33 | Bruners | Amarande: you do understand that they send those mails to one million people, getting 10 people to sign in to their web site is profit |
| 19:10.44 | Bruners | even 1 is profit |
| 19:12.03 | Lunessa | In direct mail marketing (snail mail) a 3% response rate is considered very high. In e-mail marketing, a 0.0001% rate is high and is easily enough to make profits. |
| 19:12.19 | Lunessa | Same for scams. |
| 19:14.03 | nevcairiel | hah the PTR auth servers are slow again, its still accepting my old authenticator instead of the mobile one i attached |
| 19:14.29 | Amarande | I dunno, Lunessa, sometimes it seems like a lot more people than 0.0001% are gullible |
| 19:14.35 | Amarande | after all, how many people voted for Bush in 2004 :) |
| 19:14.44 | Lunessa | Amarande: There are. Naturally. |
| 19:14.48 | Amarande | or all the Connecticut citizens who voted for Rowland, Ganim and Giordano, among others |
| 19:15.15 | Lunessa | Amarande: I did. I didn't want Gore, and it's not like I had many other alternatives. |
| 19:15.31 | Amarande | Lunessa: I'm talking 04, when we'd already seen for nearly four years that the man was epic fail. |
| 19:15.43 | Amarande | 00 was a different issue, I probably would have voted for Bush too if I hadn't settled on Nader |
| 19:15.46 | Lunessa | Amarande: And I REALLY didn't want Kerry. |
| 19:16.25 | Amarande | Now the CT people who voted Rowland over and over again, that's gullible. :| |
| 19:16.39 | Amarande | And the people in Waterbury and ... Bridgeport I think it was, the ones who elected Giordano and Ganim. |
| 19:16.42 | Zyonin | Too bad there was not a option on the ballet for "none of the above" |
| 19:16.56 | Amarande | Rowland was governor for a while, Giordano and Ganim were mayors of two of CT's major cities. |
| 19:17.11 | Amarande | All were busted for major corruption, Giordano for pedophilia in addition. |
| 19:17.53 | Adys | Fisker: on windows i dunno |
| 19:17.55 | Amarande | Man, I might be right when I suggest that CT "may be the only state more corrupt than NJ" |
| 19:17.57 | Adys | on linux you can change mime types |
| 19:17.59 | Adys | brb |
| 19:18.26 | Lunessa | Amarande: Marion Barry got elected as D.C.'s mayor even after getting busted smoking crack with hookers. Politics is funny, yo. |
| 19:19.09 | Amarande | Heh, I'd rather have a crack smoker in charge than someone with a proven track record of cheating his subjects out of their money |
| 19:19.15 | Adys | Anyone on US ptr available for a quick test? |
| 19:19.19 | kd3 | hm? |
| 19:21.58 | Fisker | i wouldn't kd3 |
| 19:26.47 | Lunessa | Amarande: He did more than that, I'm just saying. And citizens are not subjects. This isn't a Monarchy. |
| 19:30.54 | Amarande | Lunessa: well, I can't really think of another sufficiently succinct term off the top of my head for 'people under a particular leader's jurisdiction' |
| 19:31.09 | Lunessa | constiutents. |
| 19:31.12 | Amarande | Sheep, maybe, given voting habits :) |
| 19:31.46 | Amarande | There will probably come a day, the way civilization is headed, where sheep have more individuality than people :P |
| 19:38.27 | Lunessa | Sheep? Nah. They stink worse than people and usually have crap matted into their wool. |
| 19:41.10 | Dagmar | Right, so instead of whining about it online, try taking that energy and channeling it into writing angry letters to politicians, or inquiring of new agencies "Why do we have a pedophile in office?" |
| 19:41.29 | Lunessa | Go Dagmar! |
| 19:41.32 | Dagmar | It's certain more likely to make something happen than throwing your hands up in the air and blaming "everyone else" |
| 19:41.42 | Dagmar | <-- gets in the faces of senators 2-3 times a year |
| 19:42.07 | cbreak | referendum. |
| 19:42.09 | cbreak | initiative |
| 19:42.11 | Lunessa | There's a reason I vote. There's a reason I stay informed about office holders. |
| 19:42.34 | Dagmar | It's a lot of work, but their pain is delicious to me. |
| 19:43.16 | Dagmar | Except Senator Persons. He very sensibly dodges me every chance he gets |
| 19:43.37 | Dagmar | Last time we spoke I pretty much outlined how facts pointed to him being bribed. |
| 19:44.02 | Dagmar | Serves him right for trying to get something through committee that would make me a felon. |
| 19:45.31 | Thrae | foxlit: Nah, I've been in instances |
| 19:45.34 | Lunessa | Wait, aren't you already a felon? |
| 19:45.41 | Amarande | Dagmar: now he's probably trying to get you put on the terrorist watch list :) |
| 19:45.51 | Dagmar | I'm sure they probably are trying to do just that. |
| 19:45.55 | Dagmar | I *show up*. |
| 19:46.10 | Dagmar | If I can't get a response from an aide in a week, I trot my ass down there |
| 19:46.19 | Dagmar | Paperwork and argumnentation in hand. |
| 19:47.02 | cbreak | did you consider getting one of those tiny cameras attacked to your glasses? And post the resulting movie online if it is sufficiently embarassing? |
| 19:47.23 | Dagmar | cbreak: That would for sure get me banned from the whole courthouse area |
| 19:47.33 | cbreak | not legal? :/ |
| 19:47.39 | Dagmar | No, it would be legal in this state. |
| 19:48.15 | Dagmar | TN is what's called a "one-party" consent state--meaning you can record whatever you damn well please so long as one of the directly involved parties (meaning, you) is aware of it |
| 19:48.34 | Dagmar | I have a wee tiny tape recorder for things like that (analog) |
| 19:48.43 | cbreak | otherwise wear a hat with "Camera" written on it |
| 19:48.50 | cbreak | the both parties are aware :) |
| 19:48.56 | Dagmar | Screw that |
| 19:49.04 | Dagmar | I *do* want them to think they can lie to me without anyone else knowing. |
| 19:49.27 | Lunessa | Ahh, TN. Good for country music, whiskey, and really steep mountain roads. And not the fuck much else. |
| 19:49.44 | Dagmar | Hardball like that is why I wound up telling Persons point blank "Well, the only thing really left to do at that point is figure out who you're taking money from. Liz at channel 5 can probably help me with that." |
| 19:49.48 | Lunessa | I take that back. Pit BBQ too |
| 19:49.57 | Dagmar | Whitt's BBQ FTW |
| 19:50.31 | Dagmar | He recused himself as chair on that committe the next day. |
| 19:51.12 | Dagmar | Still, it's amazing how he could have been the chain on that in the first place, when his SON headed up a cable monopolist support organization. |
| 19:51.19 | Dagmar | s/chain/chair/; |
| 19:51.37 | Dagmar | I wanted to ask how long he'd known his sone. |
| 19:52.01 | Dagmar | Evil, lying politicians are like cockroaches. Shine a light on them and they do actually bolt. |
| 19:53.16 | Dagmar | I'm only at about a blue alert level over at TDoT (dept. of transportation) |
| 19:53.47 | Dagmar | Although, if they keep putting messages on the nice electronic signs and then changing construction plans at the last minute to make me late for work, that'll change. |
| 20:00.20 | Dagmar | So it's clear I'm not just a crank, see also http://ww2.tdot.state.tn.us/tsw/smartmap.htm?city=Nashville those signs are new. When they first put them up, they would tell you about things _dead ahead_. Meaning if it was telling you about a 5-car pile up, it meant you were already sitting behind it with nothing you could do. |
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| 20:01.06 | Dagmar | Too me about a dozen and a half phone calls to get them to change the way they put up messages so you'd see them BEFORE the next fork in the interstate, so that the message signs didn't amount to "Light reading to explain why you are now f**ked in traffic" |
| 20:01.16 | Dagmar | Two visits. |
| 20:01.40 | Lunessa | Dagmar: Wait, you mean you don't like getting fucked in traffic? |
| 20:01.54 | Dagmar | No, only hummers. |
| 20:03.13 | Dagmar | We've got kind of a double-loop thing going on around the capital city. People *could* actually take alternate routes now |
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| 20:04.10 | zenzelezz | oh nice. A 20 year old mother changes her Facebook status to "single", and the father of her children (23 years old) kills her |
| 20:04.25 | Dagmar | Maturity. Heh |
| 20:04.52 | Lunessa | zenzelezz: Talk about both passive and active agression |
| 20:05.30 | Amarande | Dagmar: they'll change the signs while you're driving so you come up to the Intersection of DOOM like this: http://oddlyspecific.com/2010/02/funny-signs-your-move/ |
| 20:07.04 | Dagmar | Amarande: This may sound insane but one of the issues I had with them that was just a plain old "peeve" was that the first two "important" things they put on the signs were amber alerts. Except ALL the sign said was "AMBER ALERT" |
| 20:07.07 | Dagmar | No details. |
| 20:07.30 | Dagmar | Like, they could at least mention if it was a male or female child that had been snatched |
| 20:08.33 | sylvanaar | man Dawn of Discovery looks really cool |
| 20:09.52 | sylvanaar | wants to buy it |
| 20:10.09 | Dagmar | Amarande: Hehe. They should add a sign that says "Don't stress yourself out about it, but you're going to get a ticket, no matter what." |
| 20:10.13 | Fisker | no sylvanaar |
| 20:10.14 | Fisker | no. |
| 20:10.26 | sylvanaar | ok Fisker |
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| 20:11.11 | sylvanaar | maybe i should finish masse effect 2 first |
| 20:11.34 | sylvanaar | or bioshock 2 |
| 20:12.00 | Arrowmaster | i need to finish both |
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| 20:15.42 | foxlit | Wonder how long it will take until the forums begin to whine about the LK introduction speech |
| 20:18.14 | Lunessa | Many more encounters should have a "skip right to the part where we kill things or wipe" button. |
| 20:19.28 | Cide- | all raid dungeons should |
| 20:20.33 | LebQzz | lol and blizzard cant figure out whats going on with the lag lol |
| 20:20.43 | LebQzz | I'm gonna laugh my ass off if it neds when love ends |
| 20:21.10 | Cide- | I have no idea what you just said |
| 20:21.21 | LebQzz | Cyclone BG has Serious lag issues |
| 20:21.28 | LebQzz | server side bottlenecks.. |
| 20:21.30 | Cide- | Serious with big S huh |
| 20:21.32 | LebQzz | some say its the love event ;P |
| 20:22.03 | Cide- | some say the internet isn't completely filled with smart people |
| 20:22.16 | LebQzz | 10 mins to zone in.. 14 mins to release to ghost.. then 11 mins til transport to gy = zoning.. then run back and then get ressed. and about 12 mins later you enter dungeon again |
| 20:22.37 | LebQzz | and looting does the same ;P |
| 20:23.13 | Fisker | owned LebQzz |
| 20:23.17 | Cide- | ^ |
| 20:23.19 | Cide- | Fisker |
| 20:23.22 | Cide- | where's your hd stream |
| 20:23.29 | Cide- | moar hd videossss |
| 20:23.32 | Fisker | i don't have one |
| 20:23.35 | LebQzz | hehe I'm not the only one.. you cant even raid |
| 20:23.36 | Cide- | WELL GET ONE |
| 20:23.42 | LebQzz | you cant BG you cant do anything lol |
| 20:23.42 | Cide- | LebQzz: oh yes I can |
| 20:23.49 | LebQzz | cyclone bg? |
| 20:24.00 | Cide- | no |
| 20:24.07 | LebQzz | thats why lol |
| 20:24.12 | LebQzz | try doing that on Cyclone ;P |
| 20:24.18 | Cide- | no thanks |
| 20:24.51 | Cide- | I'd kill myself being in the same bg as people with the same frequency of ";P"'s as you |
| 20:25.05 | LebQzz | hehe |
| 20:25.10 | LebQzz | old old old habit |
| 20:25.14 | Cide- | ;P |
| 20:25.24 | Cide- | brb vomit |
| 20:25.27 | LebQzz | and now you do it |
| 20:25.27 | LebQzz | heh |
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| 20:29.28 | Lunessa | http://notalwaysright.com/purell-y-out-of-his-mind/4325 |
| 20:34.06 | olafski | :D |
| 20:46.32 | Dagmar | People should check to make sure they didn't walk out of the house with their wife's pills or something |
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| 21:00.56 | mikma | wobwork: http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/meanwhile_in_australia.jpg |
| 21:01.56 | ScytheBlade1 | ah |
| 21:02.35 | ScytheBlade1 | *hah |
| 21:02.39 | mikma | fisker: http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/download_a_car.png |
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| 21:07.14 | Shadowed | weird |
| 21:07.21 | Shadowed | I wonder what Blizzard changed to mess up textures on the PTR |
| 21:08.19 | Dagmar | Probably something to do with the bug that's killing high-end video cards |
| 21:08.33 | Shadowed | shouldn't |
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| 21:08.46 | Dagmar | cudda, wudda, shudda |
| 21:08.49 | Shadowed | well |
| 21:08.58 | Shadowed | The issue is that some textures are too long, which could be graphics card related |
| 21:08.59 | Amarande | Dagmar: "bug that's killing high-end video cards"? |
| 21:09.00 | Dagmar | It's the PTR |
| 21:09.08 | Shadowed | but does't seem likely |
| 21:09.12 | Amarande | details? |
| 21:09.55 | Dagmar | Amarande: One of my coworkers is one of those who's having to dork around with the dxapi setting because he's got a ludicrous amount of ram on his mainboard and GPU and somethinglike a GTX295 video card |
| 21:10.14 | Amarande | lemme guess, some sort of addressing limit problem |
| 21:10.16 | Dagmar | He's managed to find a few areas where flying through on a gryphon crashes |
| 21:10.40 | Amarande | Maybe I should get that Quadro 380 instead of a higher end GTX. |
| 21:10.47 | Amarande | Especially since I'm running Linux, do I really need a GTX295 :) |
| 21:10.48 | Dagmar | The important thing not being so much that it crashes, but that it crashes when you get near a certain few areas, which would likely mean a low level issue with a texture |
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| 21:11.06 | Dagmar | When he switches to telling it to use OpenGL, the problem completely disappearss |
| 21:11.11 | Amarande | resists the temptation to make a snide factionist remark |
| 21:11.14 | Shadowed | ERROR: Expected type boolean for argument canHitUntargetable of CCUnit blah |
| 21:11.15 | Shadowed | nice |
| 21:11.48 | Amarande | (although, considering that horde flight paths are different I guess there's a slight chance that horde don't have the same issue as much if at all) |
| 21:12.20 | Dagmar | Amarande: I'm guessing it's an addressing limit. Could easily be some broken texture that some driver versions get partway through and say "eff it, that's enough decoding" and others might be getting into a loop and consuming it all (or at least going past bounds limitations) |
| 21:12.22 | Amarande | btw, is this 3.3.2, 3.3.3, 3.4.0, or 4.0.0 that's on the PTR now? |
| 21:12.36 | Shadowed | 3.3.3 |
| 21:12.50 | Amarande | So if I get a Quadro 380, which is pretty much the same chip as a 9500 GT, and only has 256MB, I doubt I'll see the error? :) |
| 21:14.53 | nevcairiel | why would you ever buy a quadro, unless you're in professional rendering? |
| 21:15.47 | Dagmar | Some folks have more money than sense |
| 21:16.10 | Fisker | agiven it's a quadro 380 it seems he has neither |
| 21:16.10 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 21:16.22 | Dagmar | You buy a Quadro when the output has to be of high-quality, but speed is not a factor. |
| 21:16.43 | Dagmar | The GeForce cards are allowed to cut corners on visual accuracy, by layman comparison |
| 21:17.37 | Dagmar | I dunno what buying a quadro might get you wrt to that texture problem, but I do know I'm not having probems on my 8000 GT |
| 21:17.50 | Dagmar | ...which I'd like to strangle someone over right now. |
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| 21:18.08 | Dagmar | Last holliday season I ordered two of the damn things, and now it turns out they somehow don't have hte same firmware on them |
| 21:18.31 | Dagmar | Trying to find a firmware update that doesn't read like you're playing russian roulette isn't amusing |
| 21:18.55 | Dagmar | The older firmware is being a complete bitch about the 1440x900 screen that machine is connected to. |
| 21:19.06 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk2vR8w2sjc |
| 21:19.19 | Dagmar | Specifically, you set it to that res, and it'll actually go to 1366x768 and do a pan-and-scan virtual display thing to make up the difference |
| 21:19.47 | Dagmar | I'm about to wipe and reinstall that damn machine |
| 21:20.44 | mikma | cairenn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LYe6q_2QrY |
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| 21:22.04 | Cairenn | hhehehehe |
| 21:22.24 | Shadowed | aghhhhhhhhh |
| 21:22.36 | Shadowed | What did Blizzard do to textures on the PTR :| |
| 21:24.39 | mikma | wat |
| 21:27.38 | Amarande | Shadowed: you didn't bring Cairenn enough cookies |
| 21:27.55 | Amarande | therefore, your specific copy of ptr is b0rked :) |
| 21:27.58 | Shadowed | But she demands so many, the farms cannot support her cookie habits :( |
| 21:28.22 | Cairenn | bah, not true! now, if you were talking Scotch, or Rum .... ;) |
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| 21:30.02 | Shadowed | Don't be crazy, theres no such thing as a Scotch farm |
| 21:30.08 | Cairenn | lol |
| 21:31.01 | Amarande | makes a point to offer shots to Cairenn next time I have some rum |
| 21:31.10 | Cairenn | mmmmm |
| 21:31.12 | Amarande | you should come to Dragon Con. :) |
| 21:31.49 | Cairenn | sure - if you pay my way |
| 21:34.55 | Dagmar | I'm going to try to get back there next year |
| 21:35.13 | Dagmar | Kinda a bitch that you pretty much have to set up hotel reservations for next year as you leave |
| 21:35.28 | Dagmar | ...and I usually go for the Marriot across the street |
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| 21:38.13 | Amarande | I go with a group from a website, so I don't really have to worry about my hotel room |
| 21:38.26 | Amarande | At most, I have to set up a reservation for Monday night since I normally fly home Tuesday |
| 21:39.00 | Amarande | but Monday generally isn't hard to get a room for |
| 21:39.19 | Amarande | although 205 for a single night like I paid last year seems a tad steep |
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| 21:46.23 | Lunessa | I haven't been to Dragon*Con since '93 but I will say this for it - every geek can get some there. |
| 21:46.58 | Cairenn | rolls her eyes |
| 21:47.21 | Lunessa | I speek sooth. |
| 21:48.46 | Adys | Shadowed |
| 21:48.52 | Adys | are you home my little honey |
| 21:48.58 | Shadowed | if I could end you, I would |
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| 21:54.49 | sylvanaar | ~3D8 |
| 21:54.59 | sylvanaar | ~2D4 |
| 21:55.20 | sylvanaar | i miss the 80's |
| 21:56.18 | Adys | ~3DO |
| 21:57.53 | Maldivia | ~C3PO |
| 21:57.53 | purl | hmm... c3po is the best jumping bzplayer (by far better then Tupone) |
| 21:58.10 | Maldivia | :P |
| 22:00.25 | Lunessa | Missing the 80s assumes there was anything there to like other than the cartoons and the music. |
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| 22:01.58 | Maldivia | mother's womb? |
| 22:02.59 | Lunessa | Yeah, never saw the appeal in that longing. |
| 22:03.33 | Maldivia | well, I can't remember it, so |
| 22:04.31 | Cairenn | men - spend the first 9 months of their lives trying to get out of the womb .... and the rest of their lives trying to get back in |
| 22:04.59 | Shadowed | what about gays |
| 22:05.05 | Shadowed | that's not very sensitive of you Cairenn |
| 22:05.31 | Cairenn | it's a very old joke/expression - you not heard it before? |
| 22:05.55 | Shadowed | I've heard it, that doesn't mean I won't ruin your fun |
| 22:06.01 | Cairenn | heh |
| 22:06.13 | Cairenn | try to, you mean |
| 22:06.23 | Shadowed | s/ruin/try to ruin/ |
| 22:07.24 | Shadowed | oo wowhead url upgrades |
| 22:07.50 | Maldivia | anyone seen the R-rated trailer for Kick-Ass ? |
| 22:10.06 | Maldivia | if not, I highly recommend it: http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/kick-ass/red-band-trailer |
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| 22:35.30 | Fisker | ~weather ekch |
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| 22:43.17 | Shirik | It's good to see Wikipedia has its priorities in order |
| 22:43.33 | Shirik | Rated very low quality (start-class): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaussian_elimination |
| 22:43.46 | Shirik | Rated very high quality (featured): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missingno |
| 22:45.08 | Fisker | farts Shirik |
| 22:45.51 | nevcairiel | the gauss algorithm page doesnt seem bad |
| 22:46.43 | Fisker | it is very high quality Shirik |
| 22:46.50 | Fisker | i just ordered all gameboy's + all pokemon games |
| 22:47.35 | Shirik | nevcairiel: I kinda agree, I'd rate it probably at "C" but I'm not part of that project |
| 22:47.35 | Shirik | still it's nowhere near "Missingno" |
| 22:47.43 | nevcairiel | the rating guy probalby had no idea about math and didnt "get" it |
| 22:53.34 | Fisker | simple wikipedia ftw? |
| 22:53.50 | Fisker | if the earth blows up that is really really abd |
| 22:53.53 | Fisker | bad* |
| 22:55.09 | Dagmar | Shirik: Apparently the person is rating the pages based on whether or not they are smart enough to understand themn |
| 22:55.24 | Dagmar | I see not a damn thing wrong with the technically-oriented page. |
| 22:55.46 | Fisker | how does one understand Missingno? |
| 22:56.59 | Dagmar | Fisker: I suppose by being the sort of person who plays a lot of Pokemon and thinks a bug in an obsolete video game for small children is fascinating stuff worthy of giving a bronze star to |
| 22:59.29 | foxlit | Love vanished form the Air. |
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| 22:59.49 | Dagmar | Good riddance to it then |
| 23:00.03 | foxlit | Was great XP for an alt |
| 23:00.25 | Dagmar | Well, I'm a bit cheesed off that there was no sign the colognes required the holiday to function |
| 23:00.34 | foxlit | Dagmar: "Requires Love is in the Air" |
| 23:00.38 | Dagmar | ...and no, it did not say anything about it on the tooltip. |
| 23:00.47 | foxlit | It oes for me |
| 23:00.47 | Fisker | it did |
| 23:00.54 | Dagmar | It says that on _websites_ but it didn't say it for me in-game. |
| 23:00.55 | foxlit | btw, they still work |
| 23:00.56 | Lunessa | It didn't on US clients. |
| 23:00.58 | Fisker | stop being on so many private servers Dagmar |
| 23:01.03 | Fisker | damn Lunessa |
| 23:01.05 | Dagmar | Fisker: bite me. |
| 23:01.07 | nevcairiel | I saw it too in game |
| 23:01.08 | Fisker | don't outtroll me |
| 23:01.21 | Dagmar | I have freaking screenshots from last night showing it doesn't say a thing about it |
| 23:01.34 | Fisker | should've been obvious though |
| 23:01.38 | Dagmar | I took them _because_ someone wanted to act like I was somehow not seeing text that didn't appear on my screen |
| 23:01.43 | Fisker | besides no biggie anyway |
| 23:01.51 | Dagmar | ...and because God has yet to strike Fisker down with a flaming metero. |
| 23:01.54 | Fisker | "Oh nos i lost some love tokens i could've spent on something worse" |
| 23:01.58 | Dagmar | s/metero/meteor/; |
| 23:02.01 | foxlit | ... THEY STILL WORK. |
| 23:02.05 | foxlit | Which is hilarious |
| 23:02.10 | Fisker | yeah |
| 23:02.12 | Fisker | EU has a bug |
| 23:02.15 | Dagmar | It's fine by me if they still work |
| 23:02.20 | Fisker | won't stop working until wednesday |
| 23:02.46 | Dagmar | I think I'm probably just going to say to hell with any and all holiday achievements from now on |
| 23:03.03 | Dagmar | I'd rather rip out some toenails at the roots than finish tracking down all those old people |
| 23:03.09 | Fisker | same here |
| 23:03.14 | Dagmar | PUT THEM IN A HOME. |
| 23:03.16 | Dagmar | Problem solved. |
| 23:03.16 | Fisker | mostly because i already did them all |
| 23:03.17 | foxlit | Hey, they're nice! |
| 23:03.17 | Fisker | HOHO |
| 23:03.18 | Fisker | ! |
| 23:03.22 | Dagmar | No need for an annual "Find the oldster" festival |
| 23:03.26 | foxlit | [Perhaps not the third year running, but whatever] |
| 23:03.42 | Dagmar | foxlit: It wouldn't have pissed me off so much if the thing didn't _completely_ reset |
| 23:03.50 | Dagmar | I had about 3/4 of them done last year |
| 23:03.52 | foxlit | Dagmar: it did not. |
| 23:04.05 | nevcairiel | Maybe the US is seriously broken |
| 23:04.14 | nevcairiel | but anyway, the achievements didnt reset in the EU |
| 23:04.18 | foxlit | I had achievement credits from previous years |
| 23:04.21 | nevcairiel | the quests reset every year |
| 23:04.29 | foxlit | Stupidly retroactive, but whatever |
| 23:04.40 | Dagmar | No, I'm just completely imagining that all the "find the oldster" achievements were a total blank and that I actually had both the lantern, a pile of 40 elune's stones, and 17 coins left over from last year |
| 23:04.45 | Dagmar | Oh and all the clothes |
| 23:04.51 | foxlit | [Had EK and Kalimdor credits, but no "1 Coin of Ancestry"] |
| 23:05.21 | Dagmar | The achievement definitely reset for me |
| 23:05.24 | nevcairiel | I bet Dagmar's char is just broken |
| 23:05.36 | foxlit | there's an if (name == "Dagmar") somewhere in server code :) |
| 23:05.40 | Dagmar | Probably |
| 23:05.50 | Dagmar | I should start getting into more deliberate mischief |
| 23:06.35 | nevcairiel | All the fire nodes were nice though, i had them retroactively awarded when achievements were introduced in 3.0 |
| 23:07.46 | Dagmar | If they take the money out of that one I'll be damned if I'm doing it this year |
| 23:08.00 | Dagmar | Midsummer Cash Festival was worth it |
| 23:08.01 | Lunessa | OK, I'm out. Don't burn down anything without me. And Cairenn if you're not sleeping soon, watch a documentary on plant reproduction. |
| 23:08.15 | Cairenn | o.O |
| 23:08.18 | nevcairiel | Dagmar: heh thats true, maybe i'll do it again |
| 23:08.25 | Dagmar | Running around that much to no profit? Screw that |
| 23:08.37 | Lunessa | Boredom ought to knock you out. :) |
| 23:08.42 | Cairenn | heh |
| 23:08.47 | Lunessa | <3 night. |
| 23:08.49 | Dagmar | If I'm bored I can always tank on my DK who isn't at the def cap yet |
| 23:08.50 | Cairenn | night |
| 23:09.05 | Cairenn | Dagmar: he's referring to my insomnia |
| 23:09.09 | Dagmar | Ah |
| 23:09.11 | Cairenn | 5 nights running |
| 23:09.17 | Cairenn | I just want some sleep, damnit |
| 23:09.27 | Dagmar | What you need is good, old-fashioned, all-natural drugs. |
| 23:09.36 | Dagmar | A big fat joint will probably put you right out. |
| 23:09.41 | Cairenn | heh |
| 23:10.03 | Dagmar | I'm not trying to push weed on anyone, but by god it snuffs my insomnia pretty solidly |
| 23:10.36 | Cairenn | legalize it in Canada and I'll consider it |
| 23:10.48 | Dagmar | I thought you guys already *did* legalize it |
| 23:10.53 | Cairenn | no |
| 23:11.11 | Dagmar | Damn your dealers are really casual |
| 23:11.14 | Cairenn | wish we would, but |
| 23:12.09 | Cairenn | I'm one of those freaks that thinks drugs and prostitution should both be legalized, because then it would a) cut out the criminal elements and b) be able to be controlled |
| 23:12.14 | Cairenn | ie for safety |
| 23:12.32 | Fisker | ano my insomnia |
| 23:12.40 | Fisker | though mine can be cured |
| 23:12.46 | Shadowed | anyone who thinks that they shouldn't be legalized is crazy |
| 23:12.48 | Fisker | just disable my battle.net account hoho |
| 23:12.56 | nevcairiel | You mean, like alcohol is controlled, and still everyone drinks it way too early and way too much? :P |
| 23:12.59 | Cide- | lolol Fisker |
| 23:13.01 | Cide- | I hate you. |
| 23:13.11 | Fisker | indeed |
| 23:13.23 | Shadowed | it's not really any different from how it is now thought nevcairiel |
| 23:13.48 | Cairenn | nevcairiel: yeah, well, the legal age for alcohol usage in the US (especially) and Canada (somewhat) is a bit too high, imo, so |
| 23:13.52 | nevcairiel | I'm so crazy, i even think they should outlaw smoking in general |
| 23:13.58 | Shadowed | Ill outlaw you |
| 23:14.08 | Shadowed | 21 year old drinking age is so silly |
| 23:14.12 | Cide- | word |
| 23:14.14 | Cairenn | my daughter has been allowed to drink here at home since well before the "legal" age limit |
| 23:14.33 | Cairenn | 21 is fucking ludicrous |
| 23:14.35 | Dagmar | Well, it's not the alcohol that's the problem |
| 23:14.37 | Shadowed | It's even more silly with college |
| 23:14.44 | Shadowed | cause you have 18 year olds with 21 year olds who can drink |
| 23:14.47 | Dagmar | It's the number of complete dumbasses out there. |
| 23:15.02 | Shadowed | s/who can/who can legally/ |
| 23:15.16 | Dagmar | Video games would be just as illegal if a bunch of kids blamed their bad/stupid behaviour on Grand Theft Auto. |
| 23:15.19 | nevcairiel | the limit is 18 here, still 15 year olds end up in hospitals with alcohol posioning, thats not going to relax any situations :P |
| 23:15.40 | Cairenn | you have people that can put their lives on the line at 18, but can't drink until 21 - that's fucked up |
| 23:15.42 | Shadowed | well, at a certain point you're right |
| 23:15.42 | zenzelezz | hm, the Russian female curling team is full of cuties o_O |
| 23:15.55 | Shadowed | but the more you demonize something, the more you'll have people trying it because of that |
| 23:16.14 | Fisker | what are these "drinking ages" of which you speak? |
| 23:16.28 | Cairenn | what Shadowed said |
| 23:16.28 | nevcairiel | Shadowed: people that are like that can fall into the natural selection, if it goes by me :P |
| 23:16.48 | Shadowed | I completely agree, but the logic behind 21 year old drinking age is pointless :p |
| 23:16.53 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: the problem is they take innocents with them |
| 23:16.57 | Dagmar | Not to sound really callous, but I figure if you give a kid a massive hangover at an early age, their enthusiasm for drink will be greatly diminished |
| 23:17.13 | Fisker | i don't think so |
| 23:17.16 | Shadowed | I had a friend when I was going to community college who did that, got massively drunk at 18 and had to go to the hospital |
| 23:17.19 | Shadowed | stupid as fuck thing to do |
| 23:17.25 | Cide- | many kids don't get massive hangovers until they're much older :P |
| 23:17.25 | Fisker | unless we're talking like pre-teen ages or something like that |
| 23:17.31 | Cide- | s/kids/teenagers/ |
| 23:17.32 | Dagmar | Cide: That can be fixed |
| 23:17.44 | Shadowed | I'd blame parents also nevcairiel :p |
| 23:17.45 | Cide- | how so? |
| 23:17.51 | Dagmar | Get them dehydrated |
| 23:17.56 | Cairenn | or else they just have good role models |
| 23:18.07 | Cairenn | instead of giving them massive hangovers at young age |
| 23:18.22 | *** join/#wowuidev Wobin (~Wobin@124-168-153-130.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 23:18.37 | Cairenn | if they see that drinking is no big deal, can be enjoyed in moderation, there's no thrill in it |
| 23:18.39 | Shadowed | most parents want to blame everyone else or make their children someone elses responsibility (generally the govt) |
| 23:18.49 | nevcairiel | I never got people that just go drinking for the purpose of getting smashed and forget the day |
| 23:18.56 | nevcairiel | i mean, whats the fun if you dont remember |
| 23:19.13 | Shadowed | hence why we have idiotic laws on swearing etc |
| 23:19.17 | Dagmar | It lets you play your own, personal mystery game. |
| 23:19.30 | Dagmar | "Whatever happend to my happy ass Last Night? (Spring Break Edition)" |
| 23:19.47 | Dagmar | Wait, there's laws aginst swearing? |
| 23:19.59 | sylvanaar | lol iPad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eF0y0IfpPU# |
| 23:20.08 | Shadowed | For radio/tc/etc Dagmar |
| 23:20.11 | Shadowed | tv* |
| 23:20.29 | Fisker | seriously sylvanaar |
| 23:20.46 | Fisker | this is old on so many levels |
| 23:20.57 | Dagmar | Shadowed: Not laws. Regulations. SLight difference |
| 23:21.05 | Shadowed | er regulations yea |
| 23:21.10 | sylvanaar | Fisker: i am old |
| 23:21.42 | Dagmar | I had this mental picture of being able to get a ticket for walking up to a birch tree and telling it to fuck off. |
| 23:21.45 | Fisker | glad it's not me sylvanaar |
| 23:21.49 | sylvanaar | "please dont make us explain how it works" |
| 23:22.01 | Amarande | Dagmar: in South Carolina, they want that to be a major felony. And a sex offense if a minor is present. |
| 23:22.04 | Shadowed | haha |
| 23:22.09 | Amarande | This says something about South Carolina. |
| 23:22.21 | sylvanaar | im in N Carolina |
| 23:22.23 | Amarande | Or rather, the state legislator from SC who keeps proposing this idea, and apparently has a flat .000 passage rate on ideas of his. |
| 23:22.29 | Amarande | Which makes me wonder how the buffoon keeps getting elected :) |
| 23:22.43 | Dagmar | Amarande: Hey have the Tea Party been forced to register as a terrorist organization yet? |
| 23:23.09 | Amarande | "Gee let's re-elect this guy, he's completely unable to pass any of his or his constituents' proposals!" *doesn't get it* |
| 23:23.15 | Amarande | Dagmar: *Shrug* |
| 23:23.21 | Dagmar | THey kinda *did* somewhat publicly declare that they were down with the idea of "violent" overthrow of the US Gov't |
| 23:23.24 | Dagmar | That qualifies |
| 23:23.43 | Amarande | Besides, somehow I don't think the government would get far by requiring the organizations to do the registration. I think they do it themselves :) |
| 23:23.44 | Dagmar | By the letter of that very insane law, they should be forced to register as a subversive organization in your state |
| 23:23.49 | foxlit | Amarande: "We'd better vote for that guy; all of his opponents are godless killing machines!" |
| 23:24.23 | Dagmar | Wait, do you not know about this looney tunes law just passed in SC? |
| 23:24.29 | Amarande | Dagmar: I'm from CT. |
| 23:24.35 | Dagmar | Ah |
| 23:24.36 | foxlit | Dagmar: no! |
| 23:24.37 | Amarande | I heard about the SC swearing law proposal on the internets. |
| 23:24.39 | foxlit | Tell us more! |
| 23:24.42 | Cide- | I made CT. |
| 23:24.48 | Dagmar | South Carolina just passed a Subversive Activities Registration Act |
| 23:24.50 | Cairenn | lol |
| 23:24.54 | Amarande | Apparently it's real, but the buffoon who keeps proposing it can't ever get his proposals passed. |
| 23:25.25 | Amarande | Dagmar: that is not going to pass First Amendment muster, I imagine :) |
| 23:25.33 | Dagmar | It's unconstitutional on multiple counts, but I'm sure it's the radical idiot conservative republican types who wanted it, so it's only fair they also get to be the first people to register |
| 23:26.01 | Dagmar | Freedom of speech, no self-incrimination, and there was a third fail in there I can't even remember at the moment |
| 23:26.16 | Shirik | subversive activities registration act? |
| 23:26.25 | Dagmar | Oh yes |
| 23:26.29 | cbreak | Shirik: yeah, like using SVN instead of git |
| 23:26.30 | Amarande | Dagmar: I think freedom to publicly gather is also in there somewhere |
| 23:26.38 | Shirik | cbreak: Sounds like a good idea to me |
| 23:26.44 | Dagmar | I don't live in SC or I'd be hopping up and down to get news coverage on why the Tea Baggers arne't being forced to register |
| 23:27.03 | foxlit | Dagmar: the internet says it's not a /new/ thing |
| 23:27.27 | Dagmar | It's new in the sense it was only passed last year |
| 23:27.41 | foxlit | Introduced in 1951 is what it says. |
| 23:27.46 | Dagmar | Have you known state gov'ts to get anyhting done in a unit smaller than a full calendar year? |
| 23:28.13 | Dagmar | They brought it back out this year http://www.scstatehouse.gov/code/t23c029.htm |
| 23:28.22 | Dagmar | This, last year |
| 23:28.27 | foxlit | So, why? |
| 23:28.31 | Amarande | man, what kind of koolaid do they drink in SC anyway |
| 23:28.33 | foxlit | Did the old one expire? Did they make changes? |
| 23:28.47 | Amarande | unless they all have sun poisoning or something :P |
| 23:28.48 | foxlit | [Was there no "old one"?] |
| 23:28.55 | Dagmar | foxlit: Someone with an IQ lower than room temperature probably wanted to be seen as doing something about terrorism, without any of the hard work normally involved |
| 23:29.32 | foxlit | They really need to start posting diffs :/ |
| 23:30.04 | Shadowed | didn't someone propose using wikipedia type software for stuff like this |
| 23:30.10 | Shadowed | and it got shot down pretty quickly |
| 23:30.23 | Amarande | Hmm, I wonder if the RIAA could be qualified as a subversive organization :) |
| 23:30.30 | Dagmar | Yes, anything that makes law more understandable to the people subject to it is always shot down |
| 23:30.50 | Shadowed | God bless america |
| 23:30.56 | Dagmar | Amarande: They're mean, but their goal isn't to take over congress. This is however, something the Tea Party people are rather outspoken about |
| 23:31.08 | Dagmar | ...and they're wackjobs. |
| 23:31.08 | Arrowmaster | i read something about that subversive activities act actually being something to remove the old one still in effect from 1951 |
| 23:31.36 | Dagmar | I would LOVE to see Palin's path to the WH get derailed early by being associated with them as they are publicly disembowled for being "subversive" lunatics |
| 23:31.54 | cbreak | Arrowmaster: subversive groups can now register via snail mail instead of writing a telegram? |
| 23:32.06 | Dagmar | They *must* use the form provided tho |
| 23:32.12 | Dagmar | That's apparently very important |
| 23:32.33 | cbreak | they probably use the same form as all people who go to the US have to fill out |
| 23:32.45 | cbreak | hmm... no, probably not. |
| 23:32.53 | Amarande | "Nothing in this chapter shall be construed to authorize, require or establish censorship or to limit in any way or infringe upon freedom of the press or of speech as guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States and no regulation shall be promulgated hereunder having that effect." ... so the point of this is? |
| 23:33.02 | Amarande | "We're going to require these people to register, but we can't actually DO anything with this info" |
| 23:33.20 | Dagmar | Amarande: That we've got people writing legislation who know about as much about it as a retarded 9 year old |
| 23:33.24 | foxlit | Amarande: keeps the evil communists at bay. |
| 23:33.54 | cbreak | Consider that law a DDOS entry point. |
| 23:34.23 | Dagmar | rocks back and forth "I HAVE THE FORM" |
| 23:34.42 | Dagmar | Hell yes. Now to write a five dollar check and mail this baby off |
| 23:35.45 | foxlit | Meh, internet. You disappoint me. |
| 23:36.21 | foxlit | There's basically only *one* source for the entire chain of 1951 stuff. |
| 23:36.32 | Dagmar | Gonna go get a money order to send this in with |
| 23:39.36 | Cairenn | Dagmar: form for .... ? |
| 23:40.28 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: Subversive Activities Registration Act |
| 23:40.35 | Cairenn | ah, that |
| 23:40.48 | Cairenn | wasn't sure if that's what we were still talking about |
| 23:44.54 | cbreak | americans are dumb |
| 23:45.04 | cbreak | why don't they make all evil things illegal? |
| 23:45.08 | cbreak | then NO ONE would do them anymore |
| 23:56.04 | Wobin | huh |
| 23:56.16 | Wobin | looks like I'll have to work icy touch into my single target rotation again |
| 23:57.43 | Wobin | hm, also, flameshock being affected by haste |
| 23:58.24 | Wobin | does that mean, that with enough haste, we won't be able to cast two lava bursts? |
| 23:59.39 | LebQzz | maybe lol |
