| 00:04.43 | foxlit | # He said, "Octuplet sets are buy one, get one free!" |
| 00:04.48 | mikma | cairenn: http://pics.kuvaton.com/bshit/parking_tips0.jpg |
| 00:05.05 | Cairenn | lol |
| 00:05.17 | Thunder_Child | this is not bad for $50 http://store.steampowered.com/sub/2539/ |
| 00:10.45 | Lopeppeppy | Crafty Peppy is crafty. Gosh this is hard with one hand. |
| 00:12.33 | zenzelezz | what are you crafting? |
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| 00:16.39 | Esamynn | greetings peoples |
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| 00:16.49 | zenzelezz | greetings, Earthling |
| 00:17.46 | Lopeppeppy | Hiya, Esamynn! |
| 00:18.02 | Lopeppeppy | zenzelezz, a White Rabbit costume for an Alice in Wonderland theme con I'm going to next weekend. |
| 00:19.01 | zenzelezz | :-o |
| 00:19.04 | zenzelezz | peppy-bunny |
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| 00:27.16 | elec29a | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:32.46 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, that sounds like an addon screwing up. Only way to be sure is to disable your addons and see if it still happens. :) |
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| 00:36.40 | nevcairiel | !api call |
| 00:36.40 | lua_bot | Found 9 possible results for 'call': VoiceChat_ActivatePrimaryCaptureCallback, pcall, securecall, lua_cpcall, CallCompanion, lua_call, luaL_callmeta, xpcall, lua_pcall |
| 00:36.50 | nevcairiel | lua> call |
| 00:36.51 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: nil |
| 00:37.01 | nevcairiel | wonder why my editor marks that as a function |
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| 00:41.03 | shifuimam | is there a way to trap an error with assert(loadstring()()? |
| 00:41.45 | Shadowed | If you want to check for an error from loadstring'ed code you would do something like: |
| 00:42.04 | Shirik | shifuimam: Don't assert? |
| 00:42.08 | Shadowed | local func, msg = loadstring("foo"); if( msg ) then error(msg, 2) else func = func() end |
| 00:42.27 | shifuimam | Shirik: it seems that i need assert for my code to work |
| 00:42.32 | Shadowed | you don't |
| 00:42.35 | Shadowed | you're doing it wrong :p |
| 00:43.04 | shifuimam | http://pastebin.com/m4d83e379 |
| 00:43.14 | Shirik | nevcairiel: You're using emacs aren't you |
| 00:43.25 | shifuimam | i am trying to send lua to output its content using my own slash command, /print |
| 00:43.26 | nevcairiel | i would never touch such a thing |
| 00:43.39 | shifuimam | Shadowed: i'm just going off what ckknight suggested, which worked for me |
| 00:43.52 | Shadowed | ckk is the devil |
| 00:43.55 | Shadowed | you can't trust the devil |
| 00:43.56 | shifuimam | lol |
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| 00:44.06 | shifuimam | well, do you get the gist of what i'm trying to do from that pastebin? |
| 00:44.11 | Torhal | shifuimam: ckk is bigger than the devil. |
| 00:44.25 | Shadowed | Yes, what I mentioned would work fine :p |
| 00:44.28 | shifuimam | okay |
| 00:44.32 | shifuimam | i'll try that.. |
| 00:44.52 | shifuimam | can i use that in my print() function as well? |
| 00:44.56 | shifuimam | right now print() doesn't need loadstring |
| 00:44.57 | Shadowed | What do you mean? |
| 00:45.05 | Kraps | Greetings Earthclan |
| 00:45.13 | shifuimam | well, if i do something like: /script print(SomeFrame:GetHeight()) |
| 00:45.25 | shifuimam | it runs "SomeFrame:GetHeight()" as lua on its own |
| 00:45.25 | Kraps | Earthclans? Earthclen? |
| 00:45.35 | shifuimam | i only use loadstring when doing something like: /print SomeFrame:GetHeight() |
| 00:45.44 | zenzelezz | Earthclanners |
| 00:45.49 | Shadowed | basically |
| 00:45.50 | foxlit | "people of Earth", Kraps |
| 00:46.05 | Kraps | I come in peace |
| 00:46.33 | Shadowed | When you call loadstring, it returns a function wrapped around the text you passed to it. If the text has an error in it, the function doesn't get created so if you try and call it, it'll error |
| 00:47.06 | shifuimam | what is assert(loadstring())() doing then? |
| 00:47.12 | shifuimam | i mean, if i just do loadstring(), it doesn't work |
| 00:47.40 | shifuimam | at least, i don't think it does. |
| 00:47.53 | shifuimam | plus i still need to trap the errors in nmy print() function, which doesn't use loadstring() at all |
| 00:48.01 | Shadowed | http://pastebin.com/d2ec62ad0 |
| 00:48.22 | Shadowed | That would print the error if one is triggered, otherwise it'll run the code you passed to /print |
| 00:48.24 | shifuimam | Shadowed: if i don't do assert()(), loadstring(foo) comes back nil |
| 00:48.42 | Shadowed | The only reason loadstring(foo) returns nil for the first argument is you passed bad code to it |
| 00:48.45 | shifuimam | even when i know what i'm passing to it isn't nil |
| 00:48.50 | Shadowed | oh wait |
| 00:48.52 | Shadowed | function(frame, shifTxt) |
| 00:48.55 | Shadowed | that should be |
| 00:48.59 | Shadowed | function(shiftTxt) |
| 00:49.33 | Shadowed | First argument of slash command function is the text |
| 00:49.45 | shifuimam | nope, still coming back as nil |
| 00:49.51 | shifuimam | e.g. if i do /print "Wut" it comes back nil |
| 00:49.57 | shifuimam | if i do /script print("wut") it prints wut |
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| 00:50.55 | foxlit | You redefined the global print. Please don't do that in production code. |
| 00:51.05 | shifuimam | i believe that function(frame, ...) is necessary in RoM. without it, the slash command doesn't work at all |
| 00:51.10 | shifuimam | foxlit: there IS no global print |
| 00:51.20 | foxlit | Ah, not wow. |
| 00:51.21 | shifuimam | that's the whole reason i made this addon, because the idiot RoM devs removed print() from the API |
| 00:51.22 | Torhal | foxlit: RoM Lua is teh suck |
| 00:51.25 | Shadowed | oh you're doing this in RoM |
| 00:51.26 | foxlit | I keep forgetting that, #wowuidev and all. |
| 00:51.29 | shifuimam | it worked fine until the last patch |
| 00:51.34 | Shadowed | No idea then |
| 00:51.34 | shifuimam | now print() is broken |
| 00:51.40 | Torhal | foxlit: Apparently #romuidev is dead |
| 00:51.43 | shifuimam | i figured i may as well make it a slash command as well just as a shortcut |
| 00:51.47 | shifuimam | yes, it's extremely dead, |
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| 00:52.10 | Torhal | I really wish RoM Lua had CreateFrame() - I'd actually write AddOns for it. |
| 00:52.12 | Shadowed | What I gave you should work thought, but I don't know if ROM does anything different |
| 00:52.31 | zenzelezz | ROM? |
| 00:52.37 | Torhal | zenzelezz: Runes of Magic |
| 00:52.47 | Torhal | WoW-ish clone. |
| 00:52.56 | Torhal | Even has basically the same UI API |
| 00:53.05 | shifuimam | Shadowed: i'm trying something now. |
| 00:53.14 | Torhal | With distinct things missing like CreateFrame() or a build-in AddOn manager |
| 00:53.18 | shifuimam | although this still doesn't fix the problem of having no error trapping in my print() function |
| 00:53.21 | Torhal | built-in* |
| 00:53.25 | shifuimam | Torhal: someone at least made an addon manager |
| 00:53.32 | Torhal | shifuimam: I saw :) |
| 00:53.35 | shifuimam | that it's easy to add compatibility for |
| 00:53.54 | Ginji | wow has an addon-manager |
| 00:53.57 | Ginji | Who knew! |
| 00:54.16 | Torhal | Ginji: Bah. The login-screen thinger. If not manager, close enough |
| 00:54.35 | Ginji | Yeah, close enough I guess |
| 00:55.05 | Torhal | RoM doesn't have that - so you have no way of knowing what AddOns are loaded without using this third-party thing that you have to explicitly support. |
| 00:55.24 | shifuimam | yeah, it's definitely not working without using assert()() |
| 00:55.37 | shifuimam | Torhal: well, atleast most addons have a "loaded" message that displays in the chat frame |
| 00:55.47 | Torhal | ...hwich is spammy and annoying |
| 00:55.50 | Torhal | which* |
| 00:55.55 | Torhal | <--- fails at typing |
| 00:57.22 | shifuimam | eh, you only see it once at the very beginning after logging in |
| 00:57.26 | shifuimam | worse things have been seen :P |
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| 00:59.31 | shifuimam | Shadowed: okay, your code works to execute whatever i pass via /print, but it's not trapping the error |
| 01:01.00 | Kraps | oh this is original http://www.worldoflordcraft.com/ |
| 01:01.18 | foxlit | pro! |
| 01:01.50 | foxlit | I like how news summaries truncate text on </P> tags |
| 01:01.55 | foxlit | </P...more |
| 01:02.16 | Kraps | they has gud gramar |
| 01:02.52 | foxlit | and screenshot javascript breaks scrolling |
| 01:07.24 | Shirik | wow really cool Kraps |
| 01:07.32 | Shirik | they have some interesting graphics |
| 01:08.39 | Kraps | the "story" is the same as wow's, told by a 3 year old |
| 01:09.05 | Thunder_Child | fraps now has "Stereoscopic 3D Vision video capture for D3D9 games" i am amused |
| 01:09.16 | ZorbaTHut | man, I was kind of expecting them to vaguely avoid copyright infringement |
| 01:09.17 | ZorbaTHut | but nope |
| 01:09.32 | Kraps | ZorbaTHut: zone names :/ |
| 01:09.38 | foxlit | Zone names?! |
| 01:09.43 | foxlit | They have THRALL ON THEIR LOGO. |
| 01:10.02 | ZorbaTHut | pfft, it's an orc. they all look alike. |
| 01:10.20 | foxlit | [Does thrall wield axes, anyway?] |
| 01:10.31 | ZorbaTHut | thrall wields whatever the fuck thrall wants to wield |
| 01:10.41 | Lopeppeppy | Sure, he's an orc, he uses whatever he wants to. |
| 01:11.13 | ZorbaTHut | that said, yeah, axes are the traditional orc weapon |
| 01:11.16 | foxlit | Can't see him with swords or daggers, really. |
| 01:11.26 | Kraps | the research part looks original at least |
| 01:11.47 | foxlit | Kraps: simply because it was stolen from a different genre |
| 01:12.04 | Kraps | yeah |
| 01:12.08 | foxlit | [all those spreadsheet-in-disguise games] |
| 01:12.23 | ZorbaTHut | I like how half the pages link to a "please do this later" page |
| 01:12.40 | foxlit | Messed up text encoding, too |
| 01:12.46 | ZorbaTHut | definitely ready for open beta |
| 01:13.00 | Kraps | ^ |
| 01:13.20 | Kraps | the forums are "full" of bug reports |
| 01:13.35 | ZorbaTHut | goddamn, if you go to the login page, they are literally using the horde and alliance logos |
| 01:15.55 | Kraps | "Please dont add Draenie. I dont like that race. Add some Guild Wars 2 Races to the game instead. Add the Charr and Asura instead of Draenie and Gnomes. I know this is Warcraft Themed but This could add some jazz to the Warcraft mix" |
| 01:16.18 | Kraps | yeah, dont rip off this game but that one instead |
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| 01:16.24 | Torhal | LORDCRAFT |
| 01:16.38 | Torhal | I see a Cease and Desist on the way at some point. |
| 01:20.04 | Kraps | but they are "WOW big fans"! |
| 01:23.13 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, there will be some copyright notices there, I'm sure. :) |
| 01:31.59 | Kraps | so LK wasnt downed yet |
| 01:32.24 | Thunder_Child | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370330327400=&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT#ht_1179wt_1165 <- because of the Stadium Events box. |
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| 01:39.01 | shifuimam | yeah i heard about this |
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| 01:44.51 | nevcairiel | !api unit_spellcast_channel |
| 01:44.52 | lua_bot | Found 3 possible results for 'unit_spellcast_channel': UNIT_SPELLCAST_CHANNEL_UPDATE, UNIT_SPELLCAST_CHANNEL_STOP, UNIT_SPELLCAST_CHANNEL_START |
| 01:58.00 | WobWork | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fried_Coke |
| 01:58.08 | WobWork | This is why you can't have nice things =O |
| 01:58.18 | Shirik | wtf |
| 01:58.46 | Lopeppeppy | ... ow? |
| 01:59.44 | Lopeppeppy | But I would try it. |
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| 02:00.21 | Shirik | agree |
| 02:00.34 | WobWork | https://squareup.com/ |
| 02:00.41 | WobWork | now -there's- an interesting application |
| 02:00.54 | WobWork | I find the -audio- swipe card reader, fascinating |
| 02:01.51 | Shirik | hey Lopeppeppy |
| 02:01.56 | Shirik | what do you think of my signature for today |
| 02:02.06 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Shirik/Sandbox |
| 02:02.19 | Shirik | good bad |
| 02:02.21 | Shirik | inappropriate |
| 02:02.21 | Shadowed | more pink |
| 02:02.23 | Shirik | wtf is wrong with you |
| 02:02.31 | Shadowed | maybe some ~s |
| 02:02.40 | Lopeppeppy | It's adorable, I don't think it's bad. |
| 02:02.43 | Shadowed | So it's ~<heart>~<heart>~ Shirik ~<heart>~<heart>~ |
| 02:03.22 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm, Shadowed's version would be more aesthetically pleasant, I think. Esp. if the bigger hearts were closer to your name, and the smaller hearts further away. |
| 02:04.29 | Shirik | I think that might be too long |
| 02:04.32 | Shirik | let me try |
| 02:04.53 | WobWork | hehe |
| 02:04.54 | WobWork | http://twitter.com/big_ben_clock |
| 02:05.04 | WobWork | nice change |
| 02:05.11 | Shadowed | haha |
| 02:06.23 | Shirik | lua> #([==[[[Special:Contributions/Shirik|<span style="color:#F77">~<small>â¥</small>~â¥~</span>]] [[User:Shirik|<span style="color:#E44; font-weight:bold;">Shirik</span>]] [[User talk:Shirik|~<span style="color:#F77">â¥<small>~â¥</small>~</span>]]]==]) |
| 02:06.24 | lua_bot | Shirik: 241 |
| 02:06.26 | Shirik | oof |
| 02:06.27 | Shirik | bearly fits |
| 02:06.29 | Shirik | barely |
| 02:06.53 | Lopeppeppy | Take it down to just one heart on each side then? |
| 02:07.38 | Shirik | it's fine if it fits |
| 02:08.05 | Corrodias | so cute! |
| 02:08.24 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Shirik/Sandbox |
| 02:08.25 | Shadowed | you aren't supposed to take my wackyass ideas seriously |
| 02:08.26 | Shirik | how's that |
| 02:08.37 | Shadowed | I think you owe me royalties now |
| 02:09.06 | Shirik | Sorry, licensed under CC-BY-SA-3.0 |
| 02:09.15 | WobWork | goddamnit, can't disable buzz yet |
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| 02:11.32 | Lopeppeppy | why not, WobWork? |
| 02:11.42 | WobWork | It's not an available option in my settings |
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| 02:12.05 | Lopeppeppy | Huh. Let me look at the blog link I have about that.... |
| 02:12.07 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, very cute. |
| 02:12.50 | Trela | WobWork: Look at the bottom of Gmail with all the little links. There is one there. |
| 02:12.55 | Lopeppeppy | http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=175004#off |
| 02:13.00 | Lopeppeppy | What Trela said. |
| 02:13.19 | Shadowed | Gmail view: standard | turn on chat | turn off buzz | older version | basic HTML Learn more |
| 02:13.25 | Shadowed | that's completely obvious |
| 02:13.34 | Trela | Not really. |
| 02:13.42 | Shadowed | ~lart Trela |
| 02:13.42 | purl | slaps Trela around with a large trout |
| 02:13.59 | Shirik | is it too cute, Lopeppeppy? |
| 02:14.19 | Trela | In reality, I signed in the first since it started Buzz, said, "No Thanks", and it fucking adds people to the watched list. WTF. It even added a coworker to my personal account who has never been in contact with that email address. |
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| 02:16.25 | Lopeppeppy | Maybe a little more Seerah or Peppy than Shirik, but it's only once a year. |
| 02:16.40 | Shirik | heh |
| 02:16.42 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, there have been a TON of privacy issues like that, Trela. |
| 02:17.27 | Trela | I seriously can not figure out how they would even make that connection. The sad part is that he was on the list, but it had showing zero watched and zero watching. |
| 02:17.28 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy considers me equal to herself ^_^ |
| 02:17.45 | WobWork | aha, thank you |
| 02:18.05 | Lopeppeppy | There's weird crossovers with Google Reader and public profiles there, crossing into Buzz and vice versa. |
| 02:18.11 | Lopeppeppy | Of course I do, Shirik. I lurvs you. |
| 02:18.14 | Shirik | :) |
| 02:18.20 | WobWork | http://fugitivus.wordpress.com/2010/02/11/fuck-you-google/ |
| 02:18.33 | Lopeppeppy | That's what I was reading, Wobwork. She's in my normal feed. |
| 02:18.35 | Trela | Yeah, it started saying a friend I know was watching my Google Reader list when I explicitly set it to private. |
| 02:18.55 | Trela | Log in to view? Pfffb. |
| 02:19.03 | Amarande | nah, too cute is http://dailysquee.com/2010/02/12/cute-baby-animal-gangs-on-the-rise/ |
| 02:19.07 | Lopeppeppy | A few of my friends have had issues with coworkers suddenly appearing. |
| 02:19.31 | Amarande | or http://dailysquee.com/2010/02/08/cute-baby-animal-the-puglet-is-ready/ |
| 02:20.02 | Trela | All I can think of is there is one person in the company that keeps emailing my personal email instead of my work email and copying the coworker on it. |
| 02:20.22 | Lopeppeppy | Very likely that. |
| 02:20.51 | Trela | Google's whole stance on "If you want it private, don't put it out there." is bull shit. Hey, I did not put it out there, YOU DID. |
| 02:22.35 | Lopeppeppy | Makes me very glad that I started my google account after the ex left, and he's never seen it. |
| 02:22.41 | Lopeppeppy | That I know of, of course. |
| 02:22.44 | WobWork | Trela: oh you totally did |
| 02:22.46 | Corrodias | makes me glad i don't use gmail for much of anything |
| 02:22.59 | WobWork | If google says it enough times, it might convince you =P |
| 02:23.38 | WobWork | oh god |
| 02:23.39 | WobWork | http://dailysquee.com/2010/02/12/cute-baby-animal-stop-buggin-me/ |
| 02:27.29 | Lopeppeppy | I have the munchies, without the benefit of having eaten the pot brownies. Rawr. |
| 02:27.34 | ScytheBlade1 | I noticed buzz on my account before I knew what it was.. and before stories were posted about it |
| 02:27.52 | Lopeppeppy | Same here, and I didn't much like it then either. |
| 02:28.10 | ScytheBlade1 | So I click the icon, and it said "What's the buzz around <name of my employer>?" |
| 02:28.43 | ScytheBlade1 | At which point in time I freaked, as if I had hit that post button I would have been fired |
| 02:28.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Yay phones with GPS :/ |
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| 02:40.24 | Trela | ROFFLE. |
| 02:40.24 | WobWork | Lopeppeppy: think of the money you saved in not buying th epot |
| 02:40.53 | Trela | So Aperture 3 is scanning for faces in my photographs. I see a bunch of faces go by and then a picture of the front of my Jeep comes up. |
| 02:41.41 | WobWork | Trela: Faces In Places? =P |
| 02:41.51 | Trela | Suppose! |
| 02:42.19 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, true, Wobwork. but fewer calories in pot, IMO |
| 02:43.08 | WobWork | well, certainly... but you'd get the calories from the munchies -plus- the brownies! |
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| 02:55.21 | ZorbaTHut | anyone know what the China subscriber fee is monthly? |
| 02:55.28 | WobWork | isn't it a timed thing? |
| 02:56.10 | ZorbaTHut | I actually have no idea |
| 02:59.33 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, the more I see the SHIT that Buzz did, the more unhappy I am. I have people from work following me on a Google Reader account I didn't even friggin' know I had. And I'm autofollowing several blogs, wonder how THOSE were chosen. |
| 03:00.00 | Corrodias | what is this Buzz? a thing that ruins your life? |
| 03:00.26 | WobWork | yes |
| 03:00.29 | Lopeppeppy | New Google feature. Do NOT click any shit, because once you create a profile your underwear are out there for the world to see. |
| 03:00.57 | Lopeppeppy | I can't find any help documents on how to delete a google reader account, either. Great. |
| 03:00.59 | WobWork | http://www.internetwebhelp.com/google-buzz-anatomy-of-a-slow-motion-train-wreck.html |
| 03:01.24 | Lopeppeppy | http://gmailblog.blogspot.com/2010/02/millions-of-buzz-users-and-improvements.html |
| 03:01.29 | Lopeppeppy | This is google trying to make nice. |
| 03:02.21 | Corrodias | oh yeah, it's a social networking thing |
| 03:05.23 | ScytheBlade1 | so, on buzz, I clicked "near me" |
| 03:05.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Evidently, Stevr Diaz is smoking the chronic right now. |
| 03:05.46 | ScytheBlade1 | *Steve |
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| 03:07.34 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1: poke |
| 03:08.09 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: hm, give me a few, relaxing to some music |
| 03:08.12 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: buy |
| 03:08.32 | Thunder_Child | THERE IS NO RELAXING ALLOWED! |
| 03:08.56 | Thunder_Child | though i agree with statment #2 |
| 03:08.59 | Shirik | This guy's fascination with Urine is quite scary: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Urine&action=history |
| 03:09.35 | ScytheBlade1 | actually |
| 03:09.49 | ScytheBlade1 | the expansion set, which is entirely standalone |
| 03:09.57 | ScytheBlade1 | Is $20 on steam |
| 03:10.04 | Amarande | people are going overboard on this google fear thing ... |
| 03:10.06 | Amarande | "What next Google? Google TwatView, so you can decide if itâs worth stalking that hot chick you saw at the mall, snapped a shot of, and used Googleâs face recognition technology to find online, and then found her home with Google Latitude, and checked it out on Streetview? Oh, and you even know her hubbyâs out of town thanks to Layar Reality Browser on your android phone showing you the nearby tweet saying as much, and gu |
| 03:10.06 | Amarande | iding you to her house if she didnât happen to be sharing with Latitude?" |
| 03:10.47 | Thunder_Child | really? it's stand alone? |
| 03:10.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: Thunder_Child: $20 on steam, no other reqs! |
| 03:10.56 | ScytheBlade1 | yup |
| 03:10.58 | Thunder_Child | i think thats fail...but i'm not sure |
| 03:11.04 | ScytheBlade1 | let me double check |
| 03:11.29 | Thunder_Child | i saw the price, though i'm not sure if its worth it, i mean so many other RTS's will be out soon |
| 03:11.41 | ScytheBlade1 | as per wikipedia, it is standalone |
| 03:12.10 | Amarande | hmm |
| 03:12.11 | Amarande | "It occurs to me that no one thatâs ever lived in the hood is as quick to dismiss privacy concerns as their middle-class counterparts that grew up in the âburbs. People are dangerous." |
| 03:12.15 | Thunder_Child | though if i manage to get a job i will pick it up just because |
| 03:12.25 | Amarande | you know, this kinda resonates with a feeling I get depressingly often whenever I try to go in for discussions about safety policies |
| 03:12.43 | Amarande | namely, the feeling that since I grew up in the 'burbs, my opinion doesn't really matter, and is perhaps even dangerous :| |
| 03:12.59 | Dagmar | Oppression doesn't have the same sting if you've never, ever been subject to it |
| 03:13.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: if Shirik grabs it, would you? |
| 03:13.23 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1: maybe, depends when he grabs it |
| 03:13.38 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: poke freaking poke |
| 03:13.53 | Amarande | The feeling that safety policy needs to be left to the discussion of those who grew up in areas with a drug density of ten or more meth labs per apartment building ... LOL |
| 03:14.18 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1: somehow i bet Shirik is counteracting your music relaxation |
| 03:14.26 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: he is.... |
| 03:14.34 | Thunder_Child | heh, i knew it |
| 03:14.34 | Amarande | (on THAT subject, I remember being roasted royally a few years ago when I tried to speak up against the restrictions on sale of cold medicine :|) |
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| 03:14.42 | Dagmar | Amarande: There's an acceptable minimum threshold greater than zero? |
| 03:15.04 | Dagmar | Amarande: Noo... I'm with you on the pseudoephedrine thing |
| 03:15.05 | Amarande | Dagmar: I mean in terms of the validity of one's opinion about privacy, safety, etc. |
| 03:15.19 | Dagmar | I need that crap to keep my damn sinuses in check |
| 03:15.26 | Amarande | The comment seems to suggest that that should be left to people who grew up in neighborhoods with actual danger, and those of us who grew up in the Burbs should shut up |
| 03:15.37 | *** part/#wowuidev Lukian (~lukian@203.123.90.21) |
| 03:15.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Dagmar: saline water, right up the nose. |
| 03:15.49 | ZorbaTHut | amarande, I'm really kind of depressed about what the "equality" movement has turned into |
| 03:15.51 | Amarande | ugh, I know, phenylephrine doesn't do shit by comparison |
| 03:15.55 | Dagmar | Rather than put up with the additional paperwork, most places started selling some new stuff that both a) probably makes the drug companies more money due to a fresh patent, and b) DOESN'T WORK FOR BEANS |
| 03:16.03 | ScytheBlade1 | !g ocean spray nasal walgreens |
| 03:16.04 | batbot | ScytheBlade1: Saline Nasal Sprays & Irrigation - UMHS Approved Clinical Care ... <http://www.med.umich.edu/1libr/guides/salinenasal.htm> |
| 03:16.08 | Amarande | I always jab that the "PE" in Sudafed PE stands for "Politically Expedient" |
| 03:16.09 | ZorbaTHut | it's just this constant shitflinging competition of people claiming that their history/genetics/sexuality makes them more equal than other people are |
| 03:16.11 | Dagmar | ScytheBlade1: You are not a chronic sinusitis sufferer or you would not say that |
| 03:16.15 | ScytheBlade1 | meh close enough |
| 03:16.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Dagmar: I am, as is my dad |
| 03:16.33 | Dagmar | Then you're one of the very lucky few |
| 03:16.38 | Amarande | when I'm at home, I use PSE. It works. |
| 03:16.45 | Dagmar | Every time I go talk to a doctor they like to talk about things like boring my skull out with a drill |
| 03:16.54 | Amarande | when I caught a cold at Dragon Con this year I could only find PE, and I was still significantly sniffly. |
| 03:16.56 | ScytheBlade1 | my dad had that done |
| 03:17.07 | Dagmar | Tiny sinus passages + allergies == nowhere for drainage to go and no amount of water up the nose is going to rinse it out |
| 03:17.16 | ScytheBlade1 | but much earlier, and it involved a literal hammer and a chisel |
| 03:17.26 | WobWork | trepanning? =P |
| 03:17.40 | Dagmar | I say this for _certain_ because I do occasionally put a few drops of *tobasco* in a spoon filled with hot water and snort it |
| 03:17.51 | WobWork | use wasabi |
| 03:17.59 | Amarande | Wob: naga jolokia |
| 03:18.00 | Dagmar | It clears the nose, but doesn't touch the sinuses above the eyes |
| 03:18.23 | Amarande | hey, if he snorts with Naga, he'll probably stun the nerves into oblivion and not be able to feel anything but a muffled pressure |
| 03:18.29 | ScytheBlade1 | my dad commonly just munches on the super spicey "holy crap I'm dying" hotsauce, by the jar |
| 03:18.37 | Dagmar | One the sinuses are inflamed, there's pretty much nowhere for the drainage to go without drastic chemical intervention of some sort |
| 03:18.44 | WobWork | well wasabi isn't a -chilli- heat |
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| 03:19.01 | WobWork | and it doesn't have chili oil to linger =P |
| 03:19.05 | Torhal | It's a "HOLY FUCKING SHIT I'M SUFFOCATING" heat |
| 03:19.11 | WobWork | it's more of a sinus clearing heat |
| 03:19.12 | Dagmar | ~Torhal++ |
| 03:19.44 | Dagmar | Spices up the nose are a last-ditch desperation measure before I go hunting for some honest-to-god psuedoephedrine HCl |
| 03:20.09 | Thunder_Child | wasabi is horrid. |
| 03:20.22 | ScytheBlade1 | that is what is in my nasal spray, Dagmar |
| 03:20.31 | Dagmar | Lucky bastard |
| 03:20.37 | Amarande | of course, Bush had to go and insist OMG IF WE DON'T PUT A LID ON METH IT WILL DESTROY US ALL! ("DESTROY US ALL!" repeated like Billy from Billy & Mandy, who may in fact be several times smarter than George W. Bush.) |
| 03:20.59 | Dagmar | There are literally so many hilbillies that wanna make meth around here it's seriously hard to find places that sell pseudoephedrine |
| 03:21.09 | Amarande | let's see, what's the dumbness ranking? |
| 03:21.14 | ScytheBlade1 | lo |
| 03:21.16 | ScytheBlade1 | l |
| 03:21.30 | Amarande | (Smarter) Homer > Peter Griffin > Ralph Wiggum > Billy > Zucchini > George W. Bush (Dumber) |
| 03:21.42 | Dagmar | Amarande: Well, on _that_ front, how many people have you known who got into meth? |
| 03:21.51 | Dagmar | Bush might be stupid, but at least he knows meth is really, really bad |
| 03:21.55 | Amarande | Dagmar: meth is vanishingly uncommon around here. |
| 03:22.02 | Dagmar | Amarande: Good. |
| 03:22.05 | Amarande | to the point that if a lab DOES appear and get busted, it's front page news. |
| 03:22.07 | Dagmar | That stuff ruins places |
| 03:22.26 | Dagmar | It literally makes people crazy in the space of a month |
| 03:22.51 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: maybe? |
| 03:22.55 | Shirik | depends |
| 03:22.57 | Shirik | I had plans tonight |
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| 03:23.13 | ScytheBlade1 | well, would you pick it up? |
| 03:23.22 | ScytheBlade1 | not right now, but would you? |
| 03:23.24 | Amarande | Dagmar: but the idea that it can destroy a nation to the point that it's worth giving stopping it priority over legitimate cold medicine? |
| 03:23.30 | Shirik | probably |
| 03:23.34 | Shirik | I need something new in my life |
| 03:23.39 | Shirik | i.e., not FPS/RPG |
| 03:23.40 | Amarande | although ... there are those who claim that opium was the reason why Imperial China fell |
| 03:23.47 | Amarande | so perhaps we do give drugs too little thought :| |
| 03:23.47 | Dagmar | Amarande: They should have given stern warnings to shops to just do the damn paperwork and keep selling it |
| 03:24.01 | ScytheBlade1 | is that a yes or a no? :P |
| 03:24.30 | Dagmar | Amusingly, the TBI has had plenty of busts stemming directly from people too stupid to realize that if they buy one box at 40 different stores, someone's going to notice when all the paperwork comes in |
| 03:24.35 | Amarande | All I know is, I've ridden the subway through substantial portions of NYC, at 4-5am, and haven't had any problems with significant crime. |
| 03:24.36 | Amarande | Cities are safe. |
| 03:26.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: do it now and TC might as well! (I think) |
| 03:26.25 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: okay I'm good, starting it up now |
| 03:26.30 | DWSR | hey everyone |
| 03:26.44 | Thunder_Child | not right now, think wednesday, maybe |
| 03:26.49 | Thunder_Child | ok |
| 03:27.15 | ScytheBlade1 | how about some campaign actually? |
| 03:27.17 | Ackis | Canada: 18, Slovakia: 0 |
| 03:27.18 | Ackis | wtf |
| 03:27.39 | DWSR | Ackis: Hockey? |
| 03:27.46 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1: fine. i have vent if you want |
| 03:28.00 | Ackis | DWSR: yeah, womens hockey |
| 03:28.01 | ScytheBlade1 | I'd have to set up my headset |
| 03:28.08 | DWSR | Ackis: Doesn't surprise me. |
| 03:28.16 | ScytheBlade1 | If you'd prefer it, give me a minute |
| 03:28.20 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1: i dont care |
| 03:28.25 | ScytheBlade1 | then meh |
| 03:28.29 | DWSR | Ackis: Only 2 countries are competitive in women's hockey. US and Canada. |
| 03:28.30 | Thunder_Child | wich one do you want? |
| 03:28.33 | Thunder_Child | which* |
| 03:28.37 | ScytheBlade1 | doesn't matter |
| 03:28.43 | Thunder_Child | ...not helpfull |
| 03:28.45 | ScytheBlade1 | do it on hard though |
| 03:28.51 | Thunder_Child | always |
| 03:28.55 | ScytheBlade1 | eh |
| 03:28.56 | Dagmar | DWSR: HOw is that so very different from snowboarding? ;) |
| 03:29.05 | ScytheBlade1 | soviets |
| 03:29.05 | Thunder_Child | ok, i know which i want |
| 03:29.06 | Amarande | this is because apparently the only Slovakia player who has a clue about defense is the goalie |
| 03:29.15 | DWSR | Dagmar: Women's snowboarding? It isn't. |
| 03:29.16 | ScytheBlade1 | or whatever then |
| 03:29.19 | Amarande | and as I can tell you as a Calgary Flames fan ... it takes more than a goalie :P |
| 03:29.38 | Amarande | we have one of the most kickass goalies in the league and we've still been kinda sucky lately. :| |
| 03:29.45 | Dagmar | DWSR: Well, I was more referring to the thought that snowboarding teams outside of US and Canada aren't what I'd call competitive |
| 03:29.47 | ScytheBlade1 | has left? :( |
| 03:29.58 | Dagmar | It's getting better tho, thank god |
| 03:30.00 | Thunder_Child | i hit back by accident |
| 03:30.12 | Dagmar | Seems like North America just has a near monopoly on suicidal trick snowboarders |
| 03:30.17 | Amarande | you mean snowboarding has graduated from 'something teenagers do because it looks cool' to 'actual sport'? |
| 03:30.17 | DWSR | Dagmar: Men's winter sports have more competitors. |
| 03:30.25 | DWSR | Dagmar: Women, not so much |
| 03:30.27 | DWSR | Amarande: Yes. |
| 03:30.31 | ScytheBlade1 | ah |
| 03:30.33 | Dagmar | Amarande: They added it to the Olympics awhile back |
| 03:30.38 | Dagmar | The first year it was almost depressing. |
| 03:30.39 | Amarande | they'll call anything a sport these days |
| 03:30.39 | Amarande | heh |
| 03:30.47 | DWSR | Your mom's a sport. |
| 03:30.54 | Ackis | DWSR: she's a team sport! |
| 03:30.58 | Amarande | what'll be the next olympic sport ... hackysack? |
| 03:31.04 | Dagmar | Everyone sort of just apparently thought doing one or two tricks down the half-pipe and doing them textbook perfect would get them 10's. |
| 03:31.20 | Dagmar | ...then the Canadians and the Americans hit the thing as if they thought they were in a video game. |
| 03:31.37 | Dagmar | Stuff that would be hard to pull off in SSX |
| 03:32.07 | DWSR | Dagmar: That's an exaggeration |
| 03:32.12 | Dagmar | Only slightly |
| 03:32.23 | DWSR | There's no mid-air binding release. |
| 03:32.26 | DWSR | But other than that, yeah. |
| 03:32.30 | Dagmar | Heheh |
| 03:32.33 | Lopeppeppy | has a serious grumpy. |
| 03:32.38 | Dagmar | Just wait for someone from Denver to figure out how to do it |
| 03:32.47 | DWSR | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 03:32.59 | Dagmar | One mistake and you're a broken sack of meat rolling down the slope |
| 03:33.28 | Ackis | buzzes Lopeppeppy |
| 03:33.54 | DWSR | Dagmar: lulz, it's hard to beat Shawn White though |
| 03:33.58 | DWSR | Kid is amazing. |
| 03:34.01 | Dagmar | Oh yeah |
| 03:34.04 | Dagmar | Completely insane |
| 03:34.19 | Dagmar | For him it's clear that tomorrow is something for _other_ people to worry about |
| 03:34.49 | DWSR | Dagmar: Part of me is hoping that he eats it attempting his new trick. |
| 03:34.58 | DWSR | Dagmar: However, part of me doesn't because it sounds like pure win. |
| 03:35.04 | Dagmar | I'm just waiting for another round of intense debate about whether or not marijuana is a "performance-enhancing" drug. ;) |
| 03:35.17 | DWSR | Dagmar: It's called a half pipe for a reason, amirite? :P |
| 03:35.21 | Dagmar | hehehehe |
| 03:35.46 | DWSR | Only way it's a performance enhancing drug is if there's a big chocolate bar at the end of the run. |
| 03:35.51 | Dagmar | ROFL |
| 03:38.08 | *** join/#wowuidev Kraps (~chatzilla@ool-44c20717.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 03:38.17 | DWSR | Fuck me. |
| 03:38.20 | DWSR | I want another BT album. |
| 03:38.35 | Dagmar | DWSR: Hehe notice how he very *quickly* went back to making dance music? |
| 03:38.36 | DWSR | Oh wait, he just released something? |
| 03:38.41 | Dagmar | Yeah he did |
| 03:38.46 | DWSR | Any good? |
| 03:38.55 | Dagmar | The cover art was done by my favorite artist, too |
| 03:38.56 | Kraps | BT? |
| 03:39.10 | DWSR | Looks boss, akshully. |
| 03:39.25 | Dagmar | Yeah, jasinksi has stuff all over DeviantArt |
| 03:40.21 | DWSR | Meh. |
| 03:40.29 | DWSR | Getting rave reviews on my favourite torrent sites. |
| 03:40.31 | DWSR | snags. |
| 03:40.36 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, do not get me started... if I get another threat from the ex's girlfriend because Google put my info out where she could find it... I will be more than livid. |
| 03:40.58 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: Can't you sue her for sidicious libel? |
| 03:41.04 | Dagmar | DWSR: http://jasinski.deviantart.com/ |
| 03:41.06 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: buzz is retarded (agreeing with you :P) |
| 03:41.17 | Dagmar | Right there at the top of his page, the long scroller is the artwork for the CD |
| 03:41.21 | Lopeppeppy | I'd rather punch her in the crotch, after of course she has safely delivered her child. |
| 03:41.28 | Dagmar | His style is _easily_ recognizable |
| 03:41.28 | DWSR | Dagmar: OH THAT COVER IS WIN |
| 03:41.29 | Lopeppeppy | Thanks Ackis. I'm not happy at all today. |
| 03:41.37 | Ackis | ~comfort Lopeppeppy |
| 03:41.38 | purl | There, there, Lopeppeppy. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 03:41.38 | Cairenn | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 03:41.39 | Dagmar | I've bought 4-5 framed prints of his stuff |
| 03:41.43 | Ackis | watch the olympics :D |
| 03:41.53 | Lopeppeppy | Hi hi Cairenn. *huggle |
| 03:42.15 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, no cable, and the buffering on internet streams makes baby Peppy weep. I'm drinking wine and watching Indiana Jones. |
| 03:42.17 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: do you have the ex's gf? |
| 03:42.20 | DWSR | gf's info* |
| 03:42.22 | Shadowed | Lopeppeppy: Parse error, missing *! |
| 03:42.53 | Cairenn | turn about isn't a good plan in this case - SHE would probably go to the police if Lopeppeppy started threatening her |
| 03:43.07 | Cairenn | why Lopeppeppy hasn't gone to them about the threats she's received, I'm not sure .... |
| 03:43.07 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, not gonna happen. :) |
| 03:43.12 | DWSR | Dagmar: What the fuck is Dancecore? |
| 03:43.26 | Dagmar | Probably yet another bunch of happy hardcore |
| 03:43.36 | Lopeppeppy | Cairenn, couldn't prove it was her. Just because my tires were flat and the car was covered with dogshit on the weekend I heard she was visiting town... |
| 03:43.41 | DWSR | Cairenn: Who said I was going to ask her to send threats back? |
| 03:43.49 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: >.< |
| 03:44.04 | DWSR | Dagmar: This album is labelled as house and dancecore, so I'm thinking no. |
| 03:44.10 | Lopeppeppy | Some things you let go, because it's more hassle than it's worth. |
| 03:44.19 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: Or, you give her info to the script kiddies? |
| 03:44.22 | DWSR | And let them have fun? |
| 03:44.22 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: nod |
| 03:44.27 | Dagmar | dwsr: Some of it's still the "listening music" he was messing about with for awhile |
| 03:44.32 | Cairenn | huggles Lopeppeppy some more |
| 03:44.36 | Dagmar | DWSR: He came to Nashville during that stint |
| 03:44.42 | DWSR | ah neat. |
| 03:44.47 | Dagmar | I did not know he'd stopped making dance music at the time. |
| 03:44.57 | Dagmar | I and my gf showed up at the Cannery all raved out. |
| 03:45.00 | DWSR | anyway Lopeppeppy, it'll be better. :) |
| 03:45.05 | Dagmar | We definitely looked like we "didn't get the memo" |
| 03:45.11 | DWSR | lulz. |
| 03:45.19 | DWSR | TBU was disappointing. |
| 03:45.23 | DWSR | He makes such epic music. |
| 03:45.26 | DWSR | And then...TBU. |
| 03:45.28 | Dagmar | I got http://jasinski.deviantart.com/art/Spin-Sister-132351974 on a print for my gf last Christmas |
| 03:45.30 | DWSR | Which was a good album. |
| 03:45.46 | DWSR | Just, /sigh |
| 03:45.48 | Lopeppeppy | I have chocolate and wine and Indiana Jones. It's all good. |
| 03:45.50 | Dagmar | Well, in his defense, he did a lot of that album for his son |
| 03:45.52 | Corrodias | nice |
| 03:46.07 | WobWork | Lopeppeppy: I hope it's not Indiana Jones and the Saucer People? |
| 03:46.17 | Lopeppeppy | Yuh what saucers? |
| 03:46.26 | Dagmar | Indiana Jones and the Lost MacGuffin |
| 03:46.48 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: The most recent Indie movie. |
| 03:46.54 | DWSR | Indie and the Crystal Skulls. |
| 03:48.32 | Mr_Rabies | you mean disheveled harrison ford and the swinging shia lebouf |
| 03:49.09 | DWSR | yeah |
| 03:49.37 | Ackis | so Kevin Smith got kicked off a Southwestern Airplane today for being too fat |
| 03:49.43 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, I own it, because it's an Indy movie... but omg that George of the Jungle was where they totally lost me, before we even got the real live aliens. |
| 03:49.50 | Lopeppeppy | Really, Ackis? Unhappy day. |
| 03:49.52 | Dagmar | Ackis: Seriously? |
| 03:49.58 | Dagmar | Wow what a spectacularly bad move on their par |
| 03:49.59 | Ackis | yeah he started tweeting about it, much lulz |
| 03:50.00 | Dagmar | t |
| 03:50.06 | Ackis | Dagmar: yup lol very bad move |
| 03:50.11 | Dagmar | He aint' even that fat! |
| 03:50.24 | Dagmar | "portly" about covers it |
| 03:50.48 | Ackis | @ThatKevinSmith: Hey @SouthwestAir! Look how fat I am on your plane! Quick! Throw me off! http://twitpic.com/1340gw |
| 03:51.01 | Ackis | that was one of his last tweets before getting put on another plane lol |
| 03:51.20 | Esamynn | Cairenn: you watching olympics? |
| 03:51.25 | Cairenn | not atm |
| 03:51.45 | Cairenn | what's happening? |
| 03:51.47 | Esamynn | Women's Moguls finals atm |
| 03:51.49 | Ackis | Cairenn: moguls finals on right now, over half way through, first chance for our gold |
| 03:51.51 | Cairenn | ahhhhh |
| 03:52.39 | DWSR | Ackis: Lemme know how it turns out. |
| 03:52.50 | Ackis | DWSR: kevin smith or moguls? ;) |
| 03:52.59 | DWSR | Moguls. |
| 03:53.03 | DWSR | Kevin Smith *shrug* |
| 03:53.29 | Ackis | 8/9 of the top 9 were american/canadian in the qualifiers |
| 03:54.43 | DWSR | lol |
| 03:54.49 | Dagmar | You'd think France would try harder |
| 03:54.52 | DWSR | How's Jenn Hein doing? |
| 03:54.54 | Shirik | I bet Lopeppeppy did this: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Shirik&diff=343914884&oldid=343904143 |
| 03:54.59 | DWSR | Dagmar: Did you mean French Olympic defeats? |
| 03:55.02 | Dagmar | heheh |
| 03:55.07 | Ackis | DWSR: 2nd place in qualifiers, she's not up yet |
| 03:55.19 | Dagmar | DWSR: Well, they have mountains and snow and skiing |
| 03:55.31 | Dagmar | It's not like they're Jamaican bobsledders or something |
| 03:55.44 | DWSR | Hey. |
| 03:55.50 | DWSR | Jamaica we got a bobsled team! |
| 03:56.14 | DWSR | (Cool runnings, in case you've never seen the movie) |
| 03:56.19 | Esamynn | not this year they don't |
| 03:56.26 | Ackis | they didn't qualify |
| 03:56.34 | Esamynn | ^ |
| 03:56.35 | Ackis | they have a cross-country skier though? |
| 03:56.39 | Cairenn | yes |
| 03:56.42 | Esamynn | I think so, yes |
| 03:56.57 | Dagmar | I guess it just doesn't work for them unless they get to frequently stop and shoot at things |
| 03:57.01 | Ackis | would've been nice if the bobsled team made it |
| 03:57.14 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, someone messed up your profile? |
| 03:57.18 | Ackis | because it was the 88 Calgary ones where they debuted |
| 03:57.21 | Shirik | heh, happens all the time |
| 03:57.27 | Shirik | I actually keep count |
| 03:57.43 | Lopeppeppy | People are jerks. *hug* I lurv you. |
| 03:57.58 | DWSR | Ackis: First ever reported cases of slide-bys |
| 03:57.58 | Shirik | they're just retaliating because they can't do what they want :P |
| 03:58.28 | Kraps | finds the bus shock story scary |
| 03:59.01 | Ackis | first canadian just went down |
| 03:59.03 | Lopeppeppy | vocabulary fail! |
| 03:59.20 | Lopeppeppy | What do you call those things that you put under doorknobs to keep a door shut, against the floor? |
| 03:59.25 | kd3 | wedge? |
| 03:59.29 | DWSR | wedge. |
| 03:59.34 | Cairenn | doorstop? |
| 03:59.44 | DWSR | Cairenn: No, that's something else. |
| 03:59.45 | Lopeppeppy | It's a long pole from the doorknob to the floor. |
| 03:59.46 | Dagmar | Doorstops keep them open |
| 03:59.58 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: It's just a wedge. |
| 04:00.05 | kd3 | but a "special" wedge |
| 04:00.09 | Dagmar | I use a shower curtain rod |
| 04:00.25 | Lopeppeppy | when I search that, it gets me doorstops. :( |
| 04:00.26 | kd3 | I'd just use a roughly triangular piece of wood |
| 04:00.48 | Cairenn | old style chairs work too |
| 04:01.14 | Cairenn | ;) |
| 04:01.33 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, I usually use a chair, I'm kind of tired of that though. |
| 04:02.14 | *** join/#wowuidev Ycarene (jporterf@24-116-56-41.cpe.cableone.net) |
| 04:02.25 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: You could use a doorstop to keep it shut. |
| 04:02.25 | Ycarene | Yo |
| 04:02.32 | DWSR | Just wedge the block of wood under the door when it's shut. |
| 04:02.57 | DWSR | Ycarene: Yo dawg, I heard you like IRC. So we put some chat in your channels, so you can talk while you type. |
| 04:03.05 | Lopeppeppy | security bar, that's it. |
| 04:03.15 | Ycarene | DWSR - heh |
| 04:04.33 | DWSR | Ackis: Are we 1/2 for Canada? |
| 04:05.05 | Ackis | DWSR: no, the 9th place canadian went 2 people ago, she's in first now, still 6 more people to go (2 canadians, 4 yanks) |
| 04:05.26 | DWSR | WoW. |
| 04:05.45 | Ackis | another yank up now |
| 04:06.34 | DWSR | Someone just crashed? |
| 04:06.42 | Amarande | Moguls: How to experience what it's like to be a Plinko piece. :) |
| 04:06.52 | Ackis | the person before couldn't land a landing |
| 04:07.15 | Ackis | had a good run other than that |
| 04:07.28 | Amarande | DWSR: one of the USA ladies wiped out, got back up and kept going but of course got a bottom of the barrel fail score |
| 04:07.40 | Ackis | yank that just went took 1st |
| 04:07.55 | Ackis | use/cdn/austria |
| 04:08.11 | Ackis | 5 left to go however so all 3 of those will get bumped most likely |
| 04:08.26 | DWSR | Hoping for a 1/3 for Canad |
| 04:08.27 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: that was much too easy |
| 04:08.27 | DWSR | Canada* |
| 04:08.43 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1: that was a PITA imp |
| 04:08.48 | Ackis | japan up now, canada next, then usa, then canada then usa again |
| 04:08.49 | Thunder_Child | imo* |
| 04:09.01 | ScytheBlade1 | true, but one base alwaysw gets beaten the crap up |
| 04:09.08 | ScytheBlade1 | *always |
| 04:09.12 | Thunder_Child | agreed |
| 04:11.31 | Ackis | canadian just fell :( |
| 04:11.42 | DWSR | Ackis: Who? |
| 04:11.45 | DWSR | Jenn? |
| 04:12.20 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1: whats going on? |
| 04:12.30 | Ackis | christie |
| 04:12.51 | Amarande | OMG another wipeout |
| 04:13.29 | DWSR | wow |
| 04:14.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: sec |
| 04:15.15 | DWSR | Amarande: So there's 3 to go with Chloe in 3rd? |
| 04:16.04 | Ackis | oh no |
| 04:16.07 | Ackis | american fell |
| 04:16.14 | Lopeppeppy | Owies. |
| 04:16.18 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: another final level? |
| 04:16.47 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1: sure, this time american |
| 04:16.50 | Thunder_Child | i hate that one |
| 04:16.57 | ScytheBlade1 | heh sure |
| 04:17.32 | Amarande | that Japanese girl was pretty good |
| 04:18.31 | DWSR | mhm |
| 04:19.12 | Amarande | eww |
| 04:19.15 | Amarande | they use arial for the scores |
| 04:19.19 | Esamynn | and that folks, is the run to beat |
| 04:19.22 | Amarande | HELVETICA, you heretics ... HELVETICA! |
| 04:19.30 | Esamynn | ~lart Amarande |
| 04:19.31 | purl | duct-tapes Amarande to the floor and drools on him |
| 04:19.44 | DWSR | Ackis: How did Jenn do? |
| 04:19.48 | Lopeppeppy | At least it's not Papyrus. |
| 04:19.49 | Amarande | Esamynn, I can't think of one person who thinks arial is better than helvetica |
| 04:20.00 | Esamynn | DWSR: I'm convinced she'll take first |
| 04:20.12 | DWSR | Ackis: How did Jenn do?? |
| 04:20.16 | DWSR | Esamynn: Youw atching it? |
| 04:20.22 | Esamynn | yes |
| 04:20.27 | Ackis | DWSR: 1st |
| 04:20.27 | Esamynn | 25.69 |
| 04:20.28 | Ackis | sje' |
| 04:20.29 | Ackis | first |
| 04:20.34 | DWSR | win |
| 04:20.35 | Ackis | 1 left |
| 04:20.41 | Esamynn | as I said, the run to beat |
| 04:20.57 | robotusch | amg |
| 04:21.13 | Ackis | if the us doesn't get first, this means it's canada's first gold on home soil |
| 04:21.15 | DWSR | COME ON JENN! |
| 04:21.39 | Ackis | jenn has nothing to do but watch now |
| 04:21.42 | Ackis | american is up |
| 04:21.54 | robotusch | CRASH HANNAH! |
| 04:21.57 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 04:22.10 | Ackis | excellent run by yank |
| 04:22.16 | Ackis | she's got itmethinks |
| 04:22.19 | Esamynn | ~lart robotusch |
| 04:22.19 | purl | makes a balloon animal out of robotusch |
| 04:22.23 | robotusch | ows |
| 04:22.43 | Ackis | pops robotusch |
| 04:23.02 | robotusch | deflates rapidly, making a *pffffffffft* noise while doing so |
| 04:23.10 | DWSR | lol |
| 04:23.15 | DWSR | Ackis: TELL ME |
| 04:23.22 | DWSR | The yank won, didn't she? |
| 04:23.31 | Ackis | waiting |
| 04:23.34 | DWSR | god damnit |
| 04:23.38 | Esamynn | still waiting |
| 04:23.40 | Ackis | first goes to |
| 04:23.43 | Ackis | usa |
| 04:23.45 | DWSR | fail |
| 04:23.46 | Ackis | canada second |
| 04:23.46 | robotusch | boo |
| 04:23.48 | Esamynn | 26.63 |
| 04:23.48 | DWSR | Seriously? |
| 04:23.55 | robotusch | back to the cricket then |
| 04:23.58 | Ackis | us/can/us top 3 |
| 04:23.59 | Cairenn | Congrats to Hannah |
| 04:24.10 | Esamynn | ^ |
| 04:24.14 | DWSR | mhm |
| 04:24.19 | DWSR | It's still rigged though |
| 04:24.20 | robotusch | on the bright side, Afghanistan beat USA the other day :3 |
| 04:24.22 | Shirik | Worst advertisement ever: http://probablybadnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/129051130477993674.jpg |
| 04:24.41 | kd3 | usa-usa-usa! </snark> |
| 04:25.05 | Corrodias | hahah |
| 04:25.06 | DWSR | LULZ |
| 04:25.12 | robotusch | lol |
| 04:25.14 | robotusch | nice site |
| 04:25.22 | robotusch | http://probablybadnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/129092631301685825.jpg |
| 04:25.52 | Amarande | well, at least the gold didn't go to the "future Mrs. Happy" *snicker* |
| 04:25.54 | DWSR | welcome to yesterday |
| 04:26.21 | Amarande | there are some family names that are tres lame as family names, and deserve to be allowed to go extinct. that is one of them. :) |
| 04:26.52 | DWSR | Alright, night all |
| 04:26.52 | robotusch | You mean like the Crapp family? |
| 04:27.18 | robotusch | Nothing beats Dick Assman though |
| 04:27.50 | Amarande | robotusch, there's a horse racing guy named McAnnally ... I shudder at the ridicule each generation of that family must face in school LOL |
| 04:28.29 | robotusch | :| |
| 04:28.50 | Lopeppeppy | Mac MacAnally plays with Jimmy Buffett. He's awesome. |
| 04:32.10 | Esamynn | I was really rooting for Jenn Heil, no one has ever taken Olympic gold twice in that event |
| 04:33.30 | Cairenn | Esamynn: nod |
| 04:33.39 | Ackis | I was rooting for her because she's from about 15 minutes from where I live |
| 04:33.41 | Ackis | http://fukung.net/v/19904/748a59245b13d29756f2fc4279b70910.png |
| 04:34.55 | Amarande | Lopeppeppy, but imagine what life must have been like in school :) |
| 04:35.31 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah... but it sucked to be a Peppy in school too, kids are cruel no matter what your name is. |
| 04:36.04 | kd3 | ackis; lol |
| 04:38.15 | Amarande | anyway, what's wrong with Google's vision of cyberglasnost? |
| 04:38.44 | Lopeppeppy | Die. In. A. Fire. Yes, it must die in a fire. |
| 04:38.50 | Lopeppeppy | Anyway, goodnight normal people! |
| 04:38.55 | Amarande | Night Peppy :) |
| 04:39.15 | Amarande | meh, I tend to already be a significantly open person on the net |
| 04:39.17 | Amarande | what could go wrong? |
| 04:39.25 | Amarande | although I don't really use gmail nearly enough to bother with buzz |
| 04:39.36 | Amarande | my buzz contacts would probably be all the people who send me viagra spam or something LOL |
| 04:41.09 | Amarande | lemme guess, I do not have the right kind of life experiences to properly appreciate the concerns of the privacy zealots? |
| 04:43.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: ha! |
| 04:43.44 | Thunder_Child | yea, i forgot you are better than the AI |
| 04:43.54 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 04:43.58 | ScytheBlade1 | thanks? |
| 04:44.13 | Thunder_Child | sure? |
| 04:44.47 | ScytheBlade1 | probably done for tonight |
| 04:44.55 | Thunder_Child | roger |
| 04:45.26 | ScytheBlade1 | that was close, though |
| 04:47.33 | Esamynn | lol, snow on the ground in 48 of 50 states, damn, why'd you steal our winter? |
| 04:47.47 | Shirik | really? |
| 04:47.49 | Shirik | am I one of the two? |
| 04:48.04 | Esamynn | dunno, news just gave that number |
| 04:48.07 | Esamynn | no more details |
| 04:48.16 | Nechckn | Friday or whatever, the only state without was Hawaii, now it's HI and FL |
| 04:48.29 | Shirik | Yeah... |
| 04:48.30 | ZorbaTHut | I wonder how many snow machines are in hawaii |
| 04:48.30 | Esamynn | damn |
| 04:48.32 | Shirik | gd florida |
| 04:48.44 | ZorbaTHut | seems like they should've fired one of those suckers up |
| 04:48.56 | ZorbaTHut | 50/50 baby, 100% success ratio |
| 04:49.03 | ZorbaTHut | if snow is a japanese import game that's an S rank right there |
| 04:49.23 | Esamynn | ... |
| 04:57.23 | Ackis | I'm so angry I had to tweet about it!!!! |
| 04:58.13 | Shirik | OMG TWEET |
| 04:58.17 | Shirik | tweet your life away |
| 04:58.29 | Esamynn | Ackis: ... |
| 04:58.50 | Esamynn | Cairenn: do we really allow tweeters in here? |
| 04:59.20 | Cairenn | yup |
| 04:59.26 | Esamynn | sighs |
| 04:59.33 | Nechckn | bawk, bawk, bawk... |
| 04:59.40 | Ackis | Esamynn: Cairenn is a tweeter herself! |
| 04:59.44 | Nechckn | ba-GAWK! |
| 04:59.49 | Esamynn | sighs |
| 04:59.57 | Ackis | http://twitter.com/MMOUI/wow-ui-devs |
| 04:59.57 | Nechckn | Esamynn, stay outta my feed bag! |
| 05:00.04 | Esamynn | sighs |
| 05:00.31 | Nechckn | lol, another bleeter feed! |
| 05:00.42 | Nechckn | That sucker is *everywhere* |
| 05:01.04 | Esamynn | Twitter is a blight. A BLIGHT!!! |
| 05:01.16 | Nechckn | I half agree, Esamynn |
| 05:01.23 | Nechckn | really not a huge fan |
| 05:01.42 | Thunder_Child | tweeters have no respect |
| 05:01.48 | Nechckn | I can see a use... but not like it is the beginning of the revolution or anything;. |
| 05:02.15 | Thunder_Child | though i see both the aussies are on there |
| 05:04.34 | Ackis | afk eating |
| 05:04.37 | Ackis | shit I meant to tweet that |
| 05:05.30 | Shirik | I refuse to use twitter |
| 05:05.39 | Nechckn | breathes |
| 05:05.45 | Nechckn | takes drink of coffee |
| 05:05.57 | Nechckn | reads IRC |
| 05:06.14 | Nechckn | *truly revolutionary!!* |
| 05:06.40 | ScytheBlade1 | I just found out that all of my friends are buzzing... |
| 05:06.50 | ScytheBlade1 | That even sounds like some drug |
| 05:06.54 | Cairenn | gives everyone Valentine's Day kisses |
| 05:06.55 | Thunder_Child | I refuse to use people that use twitter |
| 05:07.37 | Nechckn | Same to you, Ms. Cairenn!! |
| 05:07.44 | Cairenn | :) |
| 05:07.51 | Esamynn | Cairenn: and a big Bah Humbug to Valentine's Day |
| 05:08.09 | Dagmar | Particularly to this year's Extra Tedious Edition |
| 05:08.20 | Thunder_Child | you will get a SO one of these days Esamynn, dont fret |
| 05:08.28 | Esamynn | pfft |
| 05:08.33 | Esamynn | my dad doesn't believe in it either |
| 05:08.44 | Thunder_Child | oh i assure you, it exists |
| 05:09.25 | kd3 | blah. today's single's awareness day is going to be interesting. more snow! |
| 05:09.45 | Esamynn | Thunder_Child: yes well, you can go on believing that |
| 05:09.56 | Esamynn | not my job to cure your delusion |
| 05:10.27 | Thunder_Child | Esamynn: your belief does not alter reality |
| 05:10.45 | Esamynn | never said it did |
| 05:11.07 | Shirik | pets Cairenn |
| 05:11.13 | Cairenn | hugs Shirik |
| 05:11.49 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Shirik -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.3.x ToC: 30300 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | â¥â¥â¥â¥â¥â¥â¥â¥â¥â¥ - Cairenn |
| 05:11.51 | Shirik | .... |
| 05:11.57 | Shirik | mirc, you fail so hard |
| 05:12.00 | Cairenn | hehhehehe |
| 05:12.10 | Shirik | does anyone else see hearts or is it a bunch of crap? |
| 05:12.14 | Esamynn | hearts |
| 05:12.15 | kd3 | it's hearts |
| 05:12.16 | Cairenn | hearts |
| 05:12.17 | Thunder_Child | i see hearts |
| 05:12.18 | Shirik | ok |
| 05:12.27 | Shirik | I see a bunch of random symbolss |
| 05:12.30 | Shirik | but as long as it worked |
| 05:12.34 | kd3 | you're using a crap font, then |
| 05:12.39 | Shirik | everything else works |
| 05:12.43 | Shirik | just the topic doesn't |
| 05:13.18 | Shirik | Ｉãï½ï½ï½ãï½
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| 05:13.25 | Shirik | but the topic is all like nananana |
| 05:13.29 | Shirik | ASCII only noob |
| 05:14.32 | Arrowmaster | then dont try to set it using the gui |
| 05:14.38 | Shirik | I didn't |
| 05:14.39 | Shirik | I used /topic |
| 05:14.49 | Arrowmaster | i blame your shitty script then |
| 05:14.51 | Shirik | actually when I use the GUI it locks up, lol |
| 05:14.56 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 05:19.10 | Esamynn | holy shit |
| 05:19.17 | Esamynn | anyone else watch that skate? |
| 05:23.10 | Cairenn | and the two Koreans taking themselves out? |
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| 05:29.31 | Amarande | Cairenn: EPIC FAIL |
| 05:29.37 | Cairenn | ? |
| 05:29.46 | Amarande | wonders how long till we see a demotivator with that subtitle showing the koreans colliding |
| 05:29.50 | Cairenn | oh |
| 05:29.52 | Cairenn | heh, yeah |
| 05:30.20 | Amarande | or ... "TEAMWORK. Knowing someone has your back isn't always good" |
| 05:30.49 | Cairenn | rofl |
| 05:30.51 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/27/23140264682-healing-in-cataclysm--roll-paladin.html |
| 05:31.30 | ZorbaTHut | I love that hidden assumption |
| 05:31.36 | ZorbaTHut | "well, they're completely retooling health pools" |
| 05:31.47 | ZorbaTHut | "obviously they're not going to retool paladin abilities" |
| 05:31.52 | ZorbaTHut | "look! catastrophe!" |
| 05:32.20 | Wobin | omg |
| 05:32.25 | Wobin | SKY IS FALLING =P |
| 05:32.43 | Esamynn | Cairenn: indeed |
| 05:32.55 | Cairenn | that was painful to watch |
| 05:33.09 | Cairenn | as in 'duh' type painful |
| 05:38.06 | ScytheBlade1 | u/away away |
| 05:38.26 | Wobin | argh |
| 05:38.34 | Wobin | I can't stop listening to Baba Yetu =P |
| 05:38.59 | Thunder_Child | the civ 4 intro? |
| 05:39.04 | Wobin | yeah |
| 05:39.13 | Thunder_Child | i thought it had a different name |
| 05:39.44 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJiHDmyhE1A |
| 05:41.13 | Thunder_Child | huh, the same song is in sid meiers railroads as well |
| 05:41.36 | Kraps | anyone know why i have 3 totem bars but only 2 trained call buttons? |
| 05:41.50 | Ancu | wait....civ4? there is a 4? |
| 05:41.56 | Thunder_Child | >.< |
| 05:42.30 | Thunder_Child | Ancu: http://store.steampowered.com/app/3900/ |
| 05:42.41 | Wobin | Kraps, trained all three? |
| 05:43.34 | Kraps | Wobin: i only have call of the ancestors/elements |
| 05:44.11 | Wobin | yes, but have you -trained- all three? |
| 05:45.02 | Ancu | and I thought i could stop giving sid all my money now D: now I want all this stuff too |
| 05:46.01 | Thunder_Child | Ancu: to band you didnt know about it during the holidays, they had a big sale on the whole civ package |
| 05:46.15 | Thunder_Child | bad* |
| 05:46.29 | Ancu | D: |
| 05:47.12 | Kraps | Wobin: wouldnt it show in my spellbook if i did? |
| 05:47.37 | Wobin | Kraps, yeees |
| 05:47.41 | Wobin | but you still haven't answered the question |
| 05:47.47 | Wobin | Did. You. Train. All. Three? |
| 05:48.04 | Kraps | cant be because im level 41 |
| 05:48.12 | Wobin | then you don't -get- three =P |
| 05:49.16 | Kraps | but dominoes showed me -tree- when i logged on, just it it doesnt have a call button |
| 05:49.24 | Kraps | three* |
| 05:49.27 | Kraps | :/ |
| 05:51.44 | *** part/#wowuidev Seerah (~Ryan@c-76-107-191-65.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 05:51.45 | Kraps | you dint have anything to say wiseguy :p |
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| 05:55.37 | Wobin | what's to say =P |
| 05:55.46 | Cairenn | and there's the first new olympic record set at this year's games |
| 05:55.51 | Wobin | You have two call buttons =P |
| 05:55.58 | Wobin | s/buttons/spells/ |
| 05:56.02 | Wobin | and 3 slots |
| 05:56.09 | Wobin | s/slots/bars/ |
| 05:56.15 | Wobin | You do the maths =P |
| 05:58.08 | Kraps | what |
| 06:00.03 | Esamynn | Cairenn: you mean that long track skate? |
| 06:00.18 | Cairenn | just now, yeah |
| 06:00.49 | Esamynn | Asians were setting records on the long track practice runs earlier today |
| 06:00.52 | Cairenn | the Dutch skater |
| 06:01.25 | Cairenn | didn't think they counted during practice runs :p |
| 06:02.05 | Esamynn | hell if I know |
| 06:02.17 | Esamynn | TV was talking about them setting records |
| 06:02.31 | Cairenn | ah |
| 06:03.21 | Esamynn | oh wait, it was qualifiers |
| 06:03.25 | Esamynn | not practice |
| 06:07.36 | Thunder_Child | ...there is a rambo 5 |
| 06:09.14 | Wobin | Happy New Year, folks, btw |
| 06:13.06 | Cairenn | same to you Wobin |
| 06:13.30 | Wobin | Welcome to the year of the Tiger |
| 06:13.52 | Wobin | plays appropriate Survivor music in the background |
| 06:17.55 | Kraps | do stoneskin totem and dev aura stack? |
| 06:18.40 | Shadowed | weird, why does git-core need perl (Git) |
| 06:21.25 | NightHawkTheSane | Kraps: yes |
| 06:21.32 | Wobin | "The armor gained from a fully talented stoneskin totem stacks with improved gift of the wild and improved devotion aura for a grand total of 4237 bonus armo" |
| 06:22.14 | Kraps | nice |
| 06:23.20 | Kraps | lawzy http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=12534154714&sid=1 |
| 06:24.32 | Kraps | usefulness is a very objective thing, yessir |
| 06:26.43 | recluse | How would one test if they are raid leader? CanGroupInvite() would return false positives on raid assists. Is there a raid lead check function that i've overlooked, or is the method something more involved? |
| 06:34.17 | recluse | yep, i'm blind - found it :) |
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| 07:23.33 | Ancu | one thing that really and truly blows my mind, is how i can get programming lessons for free from iTunes U |
| 07:23.39 | Ancu | i mean, thats awsome |
| 07:24.18 | Ancu | srsly, has anyone else here looked into iTunes U? |
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| 07:30.38 | Thunder_Child | i have looked, and ignored |
| 07:36.58 | Snigermis | wow related.. calendar minimap button.. anyone know the framename. or what file should contain it(minimap doesnt seem to have it) |
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| 08:03.53 | Shirik | Ancu, I don't believe in programming lessons |
| 08:04.07 | Shirik | Everyone that teaches you "how to program" seems to teach you a language |
| 08:04.16 | Shirik | They don't teach you how to program |
| 08:04.22 | Shirik | there is an extreme difference |
| 08:04.30 | Ancu | this one id programming metodology |
| 08:04.36 | Shirik | I also don't believe the latter can be taught, it's something that must be learned |
| 08:04.41 | Ancu | methodology* |
| 08:04.43 | Thunder_Child | i took a programing logic course, does that count? |
| 08:04.49 | Ancu | yes and no |
| 08:04.59 | Shirik | That gets you somewhere, but rarely do they teach you HOW to solve a problem |
| 08:05.08 | Ancu | it helps to have a guide so you dont get bad habits |
| 08:05.12 | Shirik | they teach you with what tools you can solve it, but the actual problem solving aspect is something you just have to learn |
| 08:05.22 | Thunder_Child | or pay someone else to do |
| 08:05.33 | ZorbaTHut | I think you can definitely be taught how to program |
| 08:05.45 | ZorbaTHut | there's a hell of a lot of practice involved also, but it's no more a learned skill than, say, juggling is. |
| 08:05.58 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: .... anything that can be learned, must be able to be tought |
| 08:06.00 | NightHawkTheSane | taught* |
| 08:06.16 | Thunder_Child | i dont think so |
| 08:07.26 | Shadowed | eh |
| 08:08.13 | Shadowed | you can teach people how to solve problems, but it's not as sexy to learn |
| 08:08.29 | Shadowed | instead of "I learned a new language!" you get "I learned how to solve problems!" |
| 08:08.38 | ZorbaTHut | that sounds sexier to me, honestly ;) |
| 08:08.42 | NightHawkTheSane | i'd rather have the latter, personally :P |
| 08:08.44 | Shadowed | most people are stupid |
| 08:08.49 | Shadowed | keep that in mind |
| 08:08.51 | NightHawkTheSane | thats part of why i minored in philosophy |
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| 08:18.11 | Ancu | karel the robot. that is the answer to teaching how to program. Its genius! |
| 08:20.55 | Torhal | Shadowed: I find this as proof that Cro-Magnons mated with Neanderthals. |
| 08:26.33 | LebQzz | ok asking again |
| 08:26.52 | LebQzz | the day/nick icon on the minimap in wow.. frame info for that one? |
| 08:28.15 | batrick | NightHawkTheSane: i thought people got philosophy minors to force their opponents in arguments to concede by exhaustion |
| 08:31.18 | Wobin | lack of problem solving is what's keeping the IT employment down |
| 08:32.13 | NightHawkTheSane | batrick: well that too |
| 08:32.25 | NightHawkTheSane | goes to bed. |
| 08:32.32 | batrick | night friend |
| 08:35.49 | Shadowed | batrick you don't need to go into philosophy for that, just hang out on the internet for a few years |
| 08:36.18 | ZorbaTHut | wobin, I'd actually say the opposite |
| 08:36.32 | ZorbaTHut | lack of problem solving is what's keeping IT employment up, and keeping people who *do* know how to problem-solve very well paid |
| 08:36.40 | ZorbaTHut | if everyone was competent, we wouldn't need as many workers :) |
| 08:37.07 | Shadowed | if everyone was competent, the second coming of christ would be coming |
| 08:37.44 | Wobin | ZorbaTHut, well, speaking from the perspective of someone who wants to hire someone with problems solving skills and not finding many, it's keeping employment down =P |
| 08:38.29 | ZorbaTHut | wobin, you're at an odd company that isn't trying to substitute "competence" with "quantity" :) |
| 08:38.55 | Wobin | thank god =P |
| 08:39.32 | ZorbaTHut | surely two people that are half as skilled is just as good, right |
| 08:43.46 | Wobin | yeah... and I'll be the head |
| 09:06.47 | LebQzz | in lua... i might have glanced at it.. but i want to do some code optimizing. |
| 09:07.01 | LebQzz | ActionButton1:SetScale(ab_scale);ActionButton2:SetScale(ab_scale);ActionButton3:SetScale(ab_scale); <-- easier way to write this... |
| 09:07.26 | LebQzz | like ActionButton1,ActionButton2,ActionButton3:SetScale(ab_scale); |
| 09:07.34 | LebQzz | or was it mistake htere? ;P |
| 09:15.28 | Wobin | er yeah |
| 09:15.40 | Wobin | you might want to learn the syntax of the language before deciding to optimise code |
| 09:20.26 | Fisker | boom boom boom |
| 09:20.29 | Fisker | i want you in my room |
| 09:20.31 | Fisker | Wobin |
| 09:21.51 | Fisker | i'm a jerk Wobin |
| 09:22.34 | Fisker | ffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuu |
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| 09:24.24 | LebQzz | Wobin ;) i know. was coverd in the console tutorial. but I've slept in between ;) |
| 09:25.55 | LebQzz | I'm getting the most screwed up result atm. and it makes no sense lol |
| 09:37.12 | Fisker | wtf? |
| 09:37.16 | Wobin | LebQzz, well, randomly changing syntax without understanding it, is not going to help =P |
| 09:37.33 | Fisker | did they remove the money from turning in coin quests? |
| 09:37.33 | Fisker | QQ |
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| 09:46.16 | mikma | wobin: lol lol lol, wobin hood |
| 09:46.34 | mikma | i can't pwonounce the lettew w |
| 09:46.56 | Wobin | widing thrwugh the glen |
| 09:47.08 | Wobin | jesus, mikma, where have you -been- these last 3 years =P |
| 09:47.26 | mikma | wobin: mainly at home |
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| 09:55.09 | Fisker | halp me Wobin |
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| 10:05.24 | Fisker | jerk Wobin |
| 10:05.25 | Fisker | :( |
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| 11:04.52 | Industrial | Totally unrelated question; In a google docs spreadsheet how do I make one cell be the sum of an entire column of cells? eg E3=SUM(something) |
| 11:04.55 | wolowitz | anyone familiar with the MAIL_SHOW event. I just need to know how I would start an addon that registers that event. Im fine with the rest - Just stepping into LuA at the moment. I'd really appreciate the help. |
| 11:05.58 | Adys | wolowitz: wowprogramming.com and wowwiki.com both have tutorials about events |
| 11:07.38 | wolowitz | Could possibly feed my laziness and start me off with the code :D |
| 11:08.08 | zenzelezz | I think he just said he won't |
| 11:08.34 | zenzelezz | what you're asking is a very basic event question, which is answered in every event tutorial |
| 11:09.14 | wolowitz | im going from PHP+MySql into LuA -> its hard to get used too.. |
| 11:09.21 | wolowitz | just need a slap in the right direction |
| 11:09.25 | zenzelezz | and you got one |
| 11:09.33 | zenzelezz | go to one of those two sites and read the beginner tutorials |
| 11:09.36 | zenzelezz | they cover events |
| 11:10.12 | wolowitz | Thank you.. and I'm sorry I pissed you off |
| 11:10.26 | Adys | you didn't piss anyone off |
| 11:10.43 | wolowitz | ty. |
| 11:10.53 | zenzelezz | we're glad to help, we just expect you to do some basic research |
| 11:10.54 | Adys | but if you wish to actually learn anything, youll need to start using google and know which sites to go to |
| 11:11.22 | wolowitz | Yea i havnt really found any get begginer stuff until you told me those sites, Thank you |
| 11:11.54 | Adys | !g wow addon event tutorial |
| 11:11.54 | batbot | Adys: Scripting Tutorial - World Of Warcraft - Guides - GameGate2K <http://gamegate2k.com/world-of-warcraft/scripting-tutorial-wow/> |
| 11:12.02 | Adys | !g wow lua event tutorial |
| 11:12.03 | batbot | Adys: Scripting Tutorial - World Of Warcraft - Guides - GameGate2K <http://gamegate2k.com/world-of-warcraft/scripting-tutorial-wow/> |
| 11:12.13 | Adys | Why does batbot always get the shit results |
| 11:12.24 | Adys | does it look on bing.com or what? |
| 11:13.32 | nevcairiel | thats my second hit, fwiw |
| 11:13.36 | nevcairiel | first is some wow forum |
| 11:13.41 | nevcairiel | +link |
| 11:14.12 | Adys | I get http://www.wowwiki.com/Events_(API) |
| 11:14.17 | nevcairiel | thats my third |
| 11:14.35 | nevcairiel | i probably dont use wowwiki often enough for google to rank it higher =P |
| 11:14.44 | Adys | I havent used wowwiki in months |
| 11:15.47 | nevcairiel | wolowitz: if you're serious about learning, get the wow programming book, its full of tutorials to all aspects of addon development |
| 11:15.52 | nevcairiel | ~wowprogramming |
| 11:15.53 | purl | from memory, wowprogramming is World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons - http://is.gd/7A3Jx - a book written by Cladhaire and Gazmik, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 11:15.53 | Fisker | fu |
| 11:15.58 | Industrial | Fisker: no u |
| 11:16.03 | Fisker | gives nevcairiel his comission |
| 11:16.12 | Fisker | commission* |
| 11:16.21 | Fisker | also Industrial |
| 11:16.23 | Fisker | Â |
| 11:16.33 | wolowitz | "So were at the point where weve gotta do the obligatory Hello World." <- lol .. its always hello world. |
| 11:18.07 | Adys | !g hello world program |
| 11:18.07 | batbot | Adys: Hello world program - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hello_world_program> |
| 11:18.23 | Adys | I wonder |
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| 11:18.30 | Adys | !g hello world programs list |
| 11:18.31 | batbot | Adys: Transwiki:List of hello world programs - Wikibooks, collection of ... <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Transwiki:List_of_hello_world_programs> |
| 11:18.38 | Adys | sighs |
| 11:18.42 | wolowitz | lol! |
| 11:19.30 | Adys | god, rewatching stuff for the 4th time becomes boring quickly :/ |
| 11:19.41 | nevcairiel | why do you do that? |
| 11:19.51 | Adys | because I dont have anything left |
| 11:19.56 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 11:20.01 | Adys | got any recommendation? |
| 11:20.38 | Adys | preferably comedyish/detective shows |
| 11:20.46 | Adys | or scifi |
| 11:22.25 | wolowitz | damnit the .xml example file on that tutorial is broken |
| 11:28.12 | wolowitz | im fine with gui but <onEvent="MAIL_SHOW">Addon:dothis()</onEvent> <- is that correct? |
| 11:31.16 | olafski | that doesn't look like valid xml to me |
| 11:31.28 | olafski | but I'm not very versed in xml ;) |
| 11:35.39 | nevcairiel | !api unitchannelinfo |
| 11:35.39 | lua_bot | UnitChannelInfo: Returns information about the spell a unit is currently channeling (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitChannelInfo) |
| 11:36.22 | nevcairiel | !api unitcastinginfo |
| 11:36.23 | lua_bot | UnitCastingInfo: Returns information about the spell a unit is currently casting (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitCastingInfo) |
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| 11:41.22 | wolowitz | oh RegisterEvent and Setscript |
| 11:41.26 | wolowitz | beautiful |
| 11:43.42 | zenzelezz | :) |
| 11:45.10 | Adys | ~wowiquotes |
| 11:45.11 | purl | http://www.teomyr.eu/wowuidev/irc-quotes |
| 11:48.55 | mikma | hmmh |
| 11:49.05 | mikma | need to find out how the love in the air -event works |
| 11:50.54 | foxlit | moo? |
| 11:51.39 | foxlit | Do some dailies, get some tokens, buy some items, event finished. |
| 11:54.19 | Corrodias | first, you gotta whip it out |
| 11:54.27 | Corrodias | then, you gotta put it in |
| 11:54.57 | Corrodias | then stop short. that's important. |
| 11:55.29 | mikma | foxlit: i'm after the gasmask ^^ |
| 11:58.34 | foxlit | Does anything track the elders you've already visited *this year*? |
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| 12:26.31 | mikma | too bad the wowuidev quotes doesn't have the "wowinyerface.com" conversation with zoot |
| 12:31.02 | Gnarfoz | ~seen tekkub |
| 12:31.05 | purl | tekkub <~tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/GitHub/Tekkub> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 16h 21m 8s ago, saying: 'well that's a lie, I use teh ones that don't exist on windows keyboards, F13-F19'. |
| 12:31.25 | Gnarfoz | mikma: purl logs everything in here, maybe you can find it there? :p |
| 12:31.43 | mikma | yeah but i can't remember when it happened = tough luck |
| 12:32.14 | Gnarfoz | ~ |
| 12:33.23 | olafski | I log everything too |
| 12:33.27 | olafski | but I haven't been here for too long :< |
| 12:33.38 | olafski | can't you just search the logs for wowinyerface.com? |
| 12:35.20 | frontendloader | doesn't look like I have that conversation |
| 12:35.36 | frontendloader | so it didn't happen here in the past ~2yrs or I disconnected when it did :/ |
| 12:36.11 | mikma | who are you anyway, lol |
| 12:36.34 | frontendloader | Someone who likes to be condescended upon, aparently. |
| 12:38.00 | frontendloader | nothin from #wowace either |
| 12:38.12 | mikma | it happened in here, or in wowi-lounge |
| 12:38.18 | frontendloader | oh |
| 12:38.24 | frontendloader | I think I have logs from there too |
| 12:40.06 | Gnarfoz | not to be condescending, but did you change nicknames recently or were you just a lurker the whole time? ^^ |
| 12:40.14 | frontendloader | lurker |
| 12:40.23 | frontendloader | have I been pretty chatty recently? |
| 12:40.55 | foxlit | Is CalendarGetDate data available immediately? |
| 12:41.12 | foxlit | Too lazy to log out and check |
| 12:41.16 | frontendloader | nothin in wowi-lounge either :( |
| 12:41.32 | mikma | foxlit: if that's the reason why the calendar won't work after login, maybe it ain't ;) |
| 12:41.41 | frontendloader | though I wasn't in there very long before it got renamed, 9.8mb of logs |
| 12:41.52 | Gnarfoz | mikma: I have it |
| 12:42.59 | mikma | gnarfoz: I need it |
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| 12:43.28 | mikma | frontendloader: try /nick frontendlogger |
| 12:43.42 | mikma | or /nick frontendlurker |
| 12:44.00 | Gnarfoz | mikma: http://ibot.rikers.org/%23wowuidev/20090416.html.gz around 01:46 |
| 12:45.22 | Gnarfoz | also, fucking Acer computers, preloaded with a metric asston of useless crap software |
| 12:45.24 | Adys | Ill add it |
| 12:45.53 | frontendloader | while I'm talking in here, anyone use a software kvm other than Synergy? |
| 12:46.30 | Gnarfoz | I don't think I know any other, heh |
| 12:48.20 | frontendloader | it has been on the fritz for me lately, keeps dropping connection |
| 12:49.02 | foxlit | Hah, awesome. I flew over Camp Oneqwah, and it flagged me for pvp |
| 12:49.40 | Gnarfoz | carebear |
| 12:50.05 | foxlit | Well, the solution is preferable to the air guards in BC |
| 12:51.57 | mikma | frontendloader: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_machine#Extended_descriptions_of_selected_virtualization_software |
| 12:52.30 | frontendloader | oh not like that |
| 12:52.44 | frontendloader | KVM = keyboard video mouse switch |
| 12:52.54 | frontendloader | in my instance |
| 12:53.10 | mikma | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VMware |
| 12:53.42 | mikma | i heard people use that, too |
| 12:53.50 | mikma | not sure is the usage the same tho |
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| 13:12.21 | augustl | is there an addon that adds tomtom waypoints for the elders achievements? :) |
| 13:12.33 | augustl | would be awesome with a pre-set route plotted in |
| 13:12.33 | frontendloader | yes, sorta! |
| 13:12.38 | frontendloader | tourguide |
| 13:12.43 | frontendloader | moonlight festival module |
| 13:12.49 | augustl | nice! |
| 13:17.11 | augustl | great stuff, exactly what I was looking for :) |
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| 13:18.44 | xqo | Hi! I have an OnEvent-functioon that is supposed to check a list every time, but the list is not generated before i have cast a spell, so until i start casting, i get alot of errors. Can I do something to trick it until I've started casting? |
| 13:19.58 | frontendloader | register for the event COMBAT_LOG_MESSAGE_UNFILTERED |
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| 13:20.01 | frontendloader | or something like that |
| 13:20.22 | frontendloader | and look for the event type SPELLCAST_START or something like that |
| 13:20.48 | frontendloader | or just initialize your list before you even start casting |
| 13:21.02 | frontendloader | or check to see if the list exists in your onevent function |
| 13:21.05 | frontendloader | before it even starts to do anything |
| 13:21.29 | xqo | i did the check to see if the list exists, i think that'll do |
| 13:21.42 | xqo | but how do i set a dictionary-item? |
| 13:22.05 | xqo | dictionary[targetGUID]=value doesnt work, i think |
| 13:22.23 | frontendloader | oh uh |
| 13:22.36 | frontendloader | that should work but you need to do |
| 13:22.42 | frontendloader | local dictionary = {} first |
| 13:22.57 | frontendloader | to initialize it |
| 13:23.52 | xqo | dictonary={} dictionary[targetGUID]=list; is what i'm trying |
| 13:24.50 | frontendloader | if not dictionary then dictionary = {} end; dictionary[targetGUID] = list; |
| 13:25.09 | frontendloader | you may want to initialize dictionary outside of your event |
| 13:25.19 | frontendloader | otherwise it will get reset each time the event fires |
| 13:25.29 | xqo | yes, that is taken care of |
| 13:25.36 | foxlit | Heh, dictionary. .NET? |
| 13:25.40 | xqo | dictionary={} dictionary[UnitGUID("target")] = {"buff1", "buff2", "buff3"} |
| 13:25.58 | xqo | is what im doing, the dictionary={} is done outside the function |
| 13:26.39 | augustl | xqo: would be easier if you pasted some code (see the topic) |
| 13:26.41 | xqo | oh wait, |
| 13:26.48 | xqo | syntax-error -.- sori for wasting your time |
| 13:26.57 | augustl | :) |
| 13:27.05 | frontendloader | eh its not wasted if it helped you look closer and find the error |
| 13:27.33 | frontendloader | I find that asking a dumb question leads to me finding my own answer in record time |
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| 13:40.18 | xqo | where can i find info on the combat-log events? |
| 13:40.33 | xqo | im trying to find what arguments SPELL_AURA_REMOVED comes with |
| 13:40.39 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J5W5OfUNrg&feature=player_embedded |
| 13:42.25 | xqo | oh, dur nvm |
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| 13:45.53 | Wobin | Byron the Tauren Rogue is my hero |
| 13:47.07 | mikma | kari byron |
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| 13:52.35 | xqo | If I do dictionary["item"]=nil, will that delete ["item"]from the dictionary= |
| 13:52.38 | xqo | ?* |
| 13:54.29 | haste | yes |
| 13:55.19 | Terraan | will that delete it or will it just make dictionary['item'] still available, just empty? |
| 13:55.27 | frontendloader | it will no longer exist |
| 13:55.51 | Terraan | so if you just want to empty it use =' ' ? |
| 13:56.05 | Terraan | i.e. dictionary['item']= ' ' |
| 13:56.43 | foxlit | define "empty" |
| 13:56.55 | Terraan | still exist with no value |
| 13:57.07 | frontendloader | what use would a field with no value have |
| 13:57.16 | foxlit | What color is my invisible flag? |
| 13:57.24 | frontendloader | nil |
| 13:57.30 | foxlit | Do I even have an invisible flag? |
| 13:57.49 | frontendloader | so make a subfield |
| 13:57.58 | Terraan | sorry new to this and most coding I do with arrays and such it's easier to empty and refill than delete and recreate... >.< |
| 13:57.58 | frontendloader | .exists |
| 13:58.00 | frontendloader | or something |
| 13:59.05 | haste | a subfield isn't a "good" idea in that way, as it require an extra table per entry |
| 13:59.15 | haste | just using nil and false would be better |
| 14:01.43 | Terraan | ok |
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| 14:18.57 | Terraan | For resizing a frame, is it better to put the coding into the XML or use the Lua? Or is it just a matter of preference? |
| 14:19.08 | xqo | preference |
| 14:19.52 | Terraan | ok thx |
| 14:19.57 | foxlit | Depends on your code. |
| 14:20.12 | Terraan | whether you have a customization type screen, etc? |
| 14:22.23 | Terraan | I'm just wanting to make it a corner they can grab and resize the frame. Would that be better in the XML or the Lua? |
| 14:24.21 | nevcairiel | doesnt really matter, although imho its always better to keep xml and code seperated |
| 14:25.40 | foxlit | There's a slight overhead in separating the two |
| 14:26.31 | nevcairiel | like, one function call :P |
| 14:26.39 | foxlit | or one global |
| 14:26.52 | nevcairiel | which wouldnt happen if you didnt use xml in teh first place =) |
| 14:26.55 | foxlit | But yeah, hence slight :) |
| 14:28.15 | foxlit | nevcairiel: Or just used XML :) |
| 14:28.28 | foxlit | [If XML is not the answer, you are not using enough XML.] |
| 14:28.31 | nevcairiel | that'll be ugly quick |
| 14:30.07 | Terraan | Now if I decided later to make an addon options screen and put sizing in there, would it be better to use Lua now for easy integration into that later? Or would it matter? |
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| 14:45.59 | frontendloader | these days preference is usually to do everything entirely in lua |
| 14:49.09 | Terraan | ok thank you |
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| 14:52.01 | haste | it's really up to you tho' Terraan |
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| 14:57.42 | Terraan | yeah I'm just trying to get a feel for this coding....I'm normally using php, html, javascript, etc. so Lua/XML is understandable, but still has it's own quirks |
| 15:00.40 | Wobin | wow http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2010/02/09/coffee-kiss/ |
| 15:00.44 | Wobin | how the hell did they do that? |
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| 15:01.20 | nevcairiel | its probably just no liquid |
| 15:01.21 | foxlit | "ceramic artist" |
| 15:01.48 | olafski | really low temperatures wobin |
| 15:01.55 | foxlit | alternatively, use a transparent surface to guide the liquid |
| 15:01.55 | olafski | froze on the spot |
| 15:02.10 | nevcairiel | its pretty obviously no liquid, you can see that even |
| 15:02.15 | olafski | and they just kept pouring until they got the shape they wanted ;) |
| 15:02.42 | Wobin | well... -yes- it's not liquid =P |
| 15:03.07 | Wobin | but the splashback isn't flash frozen =P |
| 15:03.20 | Wobin | you have to be pretty damn good to sculpt that sort of look |
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| 15:04.23 | Wobin | In other news, how -not- to do a live webcast... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et_MmlTxMXA&feature=player_embedded |
| 15:04.23 | mmav | hi, is anyone around? |
| 15:04.49 | mmav | hello Wobin |
| 15:05.15 | Wobin | hello mmav |
| 15:05.26 | mmav | I have a question, if I may ask |
| 15:05.55 | Wobin | ~asktoask |
| 15:05.56 | purl | This is IRC. Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question and if someone's around, they'll be glad to help. |
| 15:05.58 | mmav | I stumbled across this channel randomly, and I fear it's not the appropriate place to ask, but I've been experiencing extreme latency issues since 3.3 went live |
| 15:06.12 | mmav | I'm using a Mac, Leopard 10.5.8 |
| 15:06.16 | mmav | and I don't know what to do or where to go |
| 15:06.38 | mmav | the forums aren't dynamical enough, I don't like waiting 10 minutes to get one reply that I can't immediately give feedback on |
| 15:06.45 | Wobin | have you posted on the Tech support forum? |
| 15:07.15 | mmav | there's a couple of threads there that haven't been helpful, in fact the people there haven't had much help at all |
| 15:07.24 | Wobin | Not sure if we can help, unless someone else here has the same problem and has solved it |
| 15:07.28 | mmav | is there a channel related to WoW and Mac? |
| 15:07.52 | Wobin | not afaik |
| 15:07.55 | mmav | :-( |
| 15:08.02 | mmav | it's strange |
| 15:08.13 | mmav | I can see everyone else functioning perfectly fine |
| 15:08.19 | mmav | but it takes me 3 seconds to launch a skill |
| 15:08.29 | mmav | I can even see when other people are lagging while I am lagging |
| 15:08.39 | Wobin | all I can suggest is what Blizz support would say |
| 15:08.45 | Wobin | disable all addons and see if that helps |
| 15:08.49 | mmav | I have |
| 15:08.52 | mmav | I've deleted my cache folder |
| 15:08.54 | Wobin | if not, consider reinstalling |
| 15:08.58 | mmav | I've done some tweaks in Terminal |
| 15:09.15 | foxlit | generally, addons don't have an effect on network latency |
| 15:09.32 | foxlit | Neither should your installation. They have commented on lag since 3.3, though |
| 15:09.39 | mmav | I fear the problem isn't just network latency |
| 15:09.40 | Wobin | I've had some terrible lag |
| 15:09.43 | Wobin | but it's shared |
| 15:09.45 | mmav | it's just my own input |
| 15:09.50 | mmav | everyone else seems just fine on my screen |
| 15:09.53 | Terraan | I have a friend that has some of the same issue, but I haven't noticed it on mine, but I use 10.6 snow leopard |
| 15:10.03 | Terraan | not sure if that makes a diff |
| 15:10.11 | mmav | Terraan: was your friend able to resolve his/her problem? |
| 15:10.29 | foxlit | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=12534144376&sid=1 ? |
| 15:11.02 | Terraan | I know he did a reinstall, but not sure of the outcome |
| 15:11.06 | mmav | you figure that's what's causing it? |
| 15:11.17 | Taroven | Hm, this is confusing. |
| 15:11.28 | mmav | but that would mean everyone on a realm would experience from the issue, foxlit |
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| 15:11.53 | Taroven | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/132991 - Trying out a little bit of inheritance, but that output is confusing the hell out of me... |
| 15:11.55 | mmav | and as far as I know, not everyone on Neptulon-EU is having this problem, in fact, I seem to notice it's just me, haha |
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| 15:13.26 | mmav | :-( |
| 15:13.53 | mmav | 1840 latency now, I used a connection tester and my latency to america is 50 |
| 15:13.58 | mmav | lol |
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| 15:16.01 | mmav | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=12304396654&sid=1 |
| 15:16.06 | mmav | hmm |
| 15:17.20 | Taroven | Funny thing is, the lag they speak of began directly after the last downtime. |
| 15:17.53 | Taroven | ie, it was completely fine Monday... Tuesday was atrocious. |
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| 15:18.17 | Taroven | Took something like ten minutes just to cast my inscription research. |
| 15:18.56 | Kraps | morning |
| 15:20.42 | mmav | Taroven: you are experiencing it too? |
| 15:22.07 | Taroven | mmav: Have been since tuesday, to varying degrees. |
| 15:22.22 | mmav | it's getting really annoying |
| 15:22.28 | mmav | I can't raid at all |
| 15:23.09 | Taroven | Yeah, we had to call our raids off. My realm's damn near unplayable at peak times, and pretty close even at 3am server. |
| 15:25.18 | olafski | even in dungeons? |
| 15:25.28 | Taroven | Especially in dungeons. |
| 15:25.33 | olafski | considering they're on a different server (I thought) |
| 15:25.58 | Taroven | Not quite. Instance servers go by battlegroup, so they're actually hit worse when servers are slammed. |
| 15:26.34 | nevcairiel | general performance at peak times has been bad since 3.3, not just since the maintenance |
| 15:26.58 | mmav | Taroven: oh, it's your entire realm? |
| 15:27.12 | mmav | it's not my entire realm, it's just me :-( |
| 15:27.13 | Taroven | nev: True, but it seems as if they really screwed something with this last maintenance. |
| 15:27.20 | nevcairiel | didnt get worse here |
| 15:27.44 | Taroven | Seemed to get a little better after this last batch of restarts, at least. |
| 15:28.00 | mmav | US or EU? |
| 15:28.02 | Taroven | But yeah... Tuesday and wednesday weren't playable. |
| 15:28.05 | Taroven | US/Boulderfist. |
| 15:29.38 | mmav | 700 latency now |
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| 15:30.13 | olafski | taroven: why would instance servers be hit harder? considering they go by battlegroup, surely they've taken that into account ;) |
| 15:30.55 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5470976/alan-wake-wont-be-shining-a-torch-on-the-pc |
| 15:31.07 | Taroven | Surely a server handling users from multiple other servers couldn't have a higher workload. =P |
| 15:31.58 | olafski | taroven: that doesn't make much sense |
| 15:32.08 | olafski | a server handling users from multiple other servers should surely have a bigger capacity |
| 15:32.18 | Taroven | Really just theory on my end, going off personal experience. I've always had worse lag in instances. |
| 15:32.35 | olafski | usually on my realm it's lag lag lag but as soon as I enter a dungeon it's all instant |
| 15:32.40 | nevcairiel | The lag of the last weeks was mostly related to inventory events |
| 15:32.43 | Taroven | *shrug* |
| 15:32.47 | nevcairiel | using items, looting, and that stuff |
| 15:33.10 | nevcairiel | silly DB server is overloaded |
| 15:33.46 | Taroven | That'd prolly explain why chat's instant yet it takes 30 seconds to sell an item. =P |
| 15:35.50 | nevcairiel | its pretty annoying while questing |
| 15:35.52 | mmav | olafski: I'm having lag in dungeons too :-( |
| 15:35.55 | mmav | yeah |
| 15:35.56 | nevcairiel | killing the mobs goes well |
| 15:35.58 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS37SNYjg8w&feature=player_embedded |
| 15:36.03 | nevcairiel | but when you try to loot, bah lag |
| 15:36.17 | Taroven | nevcairiel: You wouldn't happen to be pretty good with metatables, would ya? |
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| 15:39.24 | nevcairiel | sure, i guess, they are not hard to use |
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| 15:42.11 | Taroven | Ah ha, figured it out. |
| 15:42.22 | Taroven | Was having trouble with an inheritance function |
| 15:43.07 | mmav | Taroven: you figured out what caused the lag? |
| 15:44.46 | Taroven | mmav: Naw, just a little bit of lua magic. |
| 15:44.51 | mmav | meh |
| 15:44.59 | mmav | 2143 latency \o/ |
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| 15:50.39 | xqo | where can i find info on combat-log events? |
| 15:50.39 | Adys | !api map |
| 15:50.40 | lua_bot | Found 69 possible matches for 'map'. Please be more specific |
| 15:50.45 | Adys | !api maplevel |
| 15:50.45 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'maplevel': SetDungeonMapLevel, GetNumDungeonMapLevels |
| 15:50.49 | xqo | like SPELL_AURA_APPLIED and stuff |
| 15:50.52 | Kraps | whoa http://store.steampowered.com/sub/1348/ |
| 15:50.54 | Adys | !api getnumdungeonmaplev |
| 15:50.55 | lua_bot | GetNumDungeonMapLevels: Returns the number of map images for the world map's current zone (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetNumDungeonMapLevels) |
| 15:51.09 | Adys | !api dungeonmap |
| 15:51.10 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'dungeonmap': SetDungeonMapLevel, GetNumDungeonMapLevels |
| 15:51.21 | Taroven | xqo: Wowwiki has a pretty good reference for CLEU. |
| 15:52.08 | Taroven | http://www.wowwiki.com/CLEU |
| 15:52.18 | xqo | thanks!! |
| 15:52.40 | Taroven | ^_^ |
| 15:54.15 | Fisker | btw |
| 15:54.17 | Adys | the hell |
| 15:54.24 | Fisker | didn't the elders quests give money last year? |
| 15:54.28 | Adys | no Fisker |
| 15:54.32 | Fisker | hmm |
| 15:54.59 | Adys | how do you get the map level names? |
| 15:55.06 | Fisker | idk |
| 15:55.09 | Adys | eg for dalaran "The Underbelly" |
| 15:55.17 | xqo | i can use "or" right? if desc == "SPELL_AURA_APPLIED" or "SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS" then |
| 15:57.02 | foxlit | lua> desc = "no" if desc == "SPELL_AURA_APPLIED" or "SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS" then print(desc); end |
| 15:57.04 | lua_bot | foxlit: no |
| 15:57.05 | Adys | wow |
| 15:57.10 | Adys | DUNGEON_FLOOR_NAXXRAMAS5 = "The Lower Necropolis" |
| 15:57.55 | Taroven | xqo: if desc == "SPELL_AURA_APPLIED" or desc == "SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS" then |
| 16:00.23 | mikma | cairenn|afk: http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/02/12/funny-pictures-happy-valentines-day/ |
| 16:06.51 | Fisker | wno |
| 16:06.58 | xqo | how do i convert an integer to a string? |
| 16:07.28 | Taroven | xqo: x = tostring(var) |
| 16:07.53 | xqo | thanks! |
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| 16:08.57 | nevcairiel | Adys: yeah they went ahead and added them all as globalstrings now, its kinda neat |
| 16:09.03 | Taroven | xqo: Feel free to /msg me for the basic stuff btw |
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| 16:09.51 | Vilkku | nevcairiel, just the person I wanted to talk to: in quartz3, did you remove the option for cast time accuracy in the player module during the last few days? |
| 16:10.11 | nevcairiel | oh yeah, that was supposed to move to a global setting |
| 16:10.59 | nevcairiel | i should readd the option to change it |
| 16:11.00 | Vilkku | right, well just wanted to make sure you didn't decide to remove it completely for some reason, carry on :D |
| 16:11.53 | Adys | nevcairiel: what do you mean "now"? |
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| 16:26.52 | xqo | Can i change the size of a fontstring that inherits GameFontNormalLarge? |
| 16:27.31 | nevcairiel | Adys: 3.3 i think |
| 16:27.54 | Adys | nevcairiel: how was it done before? |
| 16:28.14 | Taroven | xqo: Unsure. |
| 16:28.26 | nevcairiel | not at all, before it only had naxxramas i think, and not the other dungeons, or something |
| 16:28.51 | Adys | weird |
| 16:29.11 | nevcairiel | I just remember dumping some old code and using that for 3.3 in Mapster |
| 16:29.15 | Adys | either way that shit doesnt belong in globalstrings |
| 16:29.21 | Adys | it should be in the dbcs |
| 16:29.38 | nevcairiel | that would require another API, and they are lazy =P |
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| 16:34.50 | Adys | !api loading |
| 16:34.50 | lua_bot | Found 3 possible results for 'loading': KBQuery_BeginLoading, KBSetup_BeginLoading, KBArticle_BeginLoading |
| 16:35.02 | Adys | is there an API for loading screens? |
| 16:35.31 | Taroven | Adys: Don't think so. |
| 16:35.34 | nevcairiel | api for loading screens? like what? to show one? |
| 16:35.45 | Adys | eg to get the loading screen for a zone |
| 16:35.49 | Adys | or something, anything really |
| 16:35.58 | Adys | id be tempted to make a loading screen browser |
| 16:36.08 | Taroven | That'd be kinda neat. |
| 16:36.09 | foxlit | They're all in glues. |
| 16:36.20 | Adys | hm that's a big no then |
| 16:36.33 | Adys | altho |
| 16:36.41 | Adys | can you still show them on screen? |
| 16:36.49 | nevcairiel | you can probably access the gfx |
| 16:36.50 | Adys | eg the files are accessible |
| 16:37.45 | nevcairiel | on another note, anyone figured out why tooltip addons dont show the health of structures in IoC anymore? |
| 16:38.01 | Adys | its not tooltip addons |
| 16:38.11 | Adys | the objects arent highlightable anymore |
| 16:38.11 | nevcairiel | people claim that default ui shows it |
| 16:38.18 | Adys | that isnt true |
| 16:38.59 | Adys | also its every destructible building |
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| 16:46.28 | xqo | If i can't change the size of a fontstring that inherits GameFontNormal, how can I make my own resizable font? |
| 16:48.14 | Adys | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Bloodhoof&cn=Hopecullen |
| 16:48.21 | Adys | dont you love 4/5 T9 and level 60 trinkets |
| 16:49.07 | Terraan | in the <FontString I used font="path of font" then before </FontString> use <FontHeight> <AbsValue val="9"> (for a size 9 font) |
| 16:49.18 | Lopeppeppy | I'd say Luck of the Drop, but there's time to farm badges and rep for other trinkets... |
| 16:49.43 | Adys | Lopeppeppy: the tier this guy has is 100% emblems |
| 16:49.58 | Adys | so he had a few dozen times the occasion to buy better trinkets |
| 16:50.14 | nevcairiel | gotta have to set priorities |
| 16:50.29 | Adys | either way there are level 70 quest rewards better than those |
| 16:50.54 | Lopeppeppy | Wonder if it's a recent new spec, not had time to farm up trinkets for it? |
| 16:50.55 | xqo | sooo, what's the path of your average font? |
| 16:51.01 | Lopeppeppy | Or not often played at all? |
| 16:51.20 | Lopeppeppy | I know that my paladin's ret set is.... dismal, just dismal. |
| 16:51.29 | nevcairiel | he has the full tier gear |
| 16:51.37 | Lopeppeppy | That's from raiding, no? |
| 16:51.47 | nevcairiel | heroics and badge farming |
| 16:51.47 | xqo | also, thanks, Terraan! |
| 16:51.49 | Terraan | I have them in a folder in my addon folder so I use "Interface\Addons\ADDONNAME\Fonts\COPRGTB.TTF" |
| 16:52.05 | Adys | given his achievement history, hes been 80 for a few days and has been actively playing the char since then |
| 16:52.10 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, then it shoulds't have some better trinkets. Can't figure why not. |
| 16:52.10 | nevcairiel | for those badges you can replace that lvl 50 achievement already |
| 16:52.10 | Terraan | and put the COPRGTB.TTF file in there for the font |
| 16:52.20 | xqo | isnt there a default-font that is already accessible? |
| 16:52.25 | nevcairiel | s/achievement/trinket/ |
| 16:52.36 | nevcairiel | hate reading while writing and then randomly replacing words |
| 16:52.37 | Fisker | ah |
| 16:53.27 | Terraan | Well you should be able to still use the Inherit and just use the <FontHeight> value in it for a default blizz font I would think |
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| 16:54.37 | xqo | FontHeight and FontWidth? |
| 16:54.56 | Terraan | not sure on width, but Height will be the 9pt, 10pt, etc |
| 16:56.55 | xqo | i added <FontHeight="50"/> to the fontstring, now the .lua can't find the frame that holds the fontstring |
| 16:57.34 | Terraan | <FontHeight><AbsValue val="50" /></FontHeight> |
| 16:57.37 | Terraan | give that a try |
| 16:59.12 | ScytheBlade1 | so, Shirik, think you will? =) |
| 16:59.39 | Fisker | Shirik will |
| 16:59.45 | xqo | the size is still the same, Terraan |
| 16:59.56 | ScytheBlade1 | good |
| 17:00.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Fisker should too |
| 17:00.49 | ScytheBlade1 | then we could do 2v2 |
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| 17:03.06 | xqo | if i dont add a path to the font, maybe it will use a default? |
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| 17:04.14 | Terraan | should because font= just informs it to use a specific custom font |
| 17:04.28 | Terraan | looking up to see if FontHeight changes inherits |
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| 17:07.31 | Fisker | i already did ScytheBlade1 |
| 17:08.05 | Terraan | xqo: after a little reading I found "Attribute "font" needs to be set for element "FontHeight" to work" |
| 17:08.24 | Terraan | so it looks like FontHeight only works when font= is set |
| 17:09.38 | Terraan | But I just used font="Fonts\FRIZQT__.TTF" |
| 17:09.48 | Terraan | and it worked |
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| 17:16.40 | ScytheBlade1 | Fisker: you have the RA3 expansion? |
| 17:17.13 | ScytheBlade1 | you do! |
| 17:17.15 | ScytheBlade1 | woo |
| 17:18.48 | xqo | super, thanks Terraan!! |
| 17:19.02 | Terraan | np |
| 17:19.13 | xqo | now for making the fontstring.. |
| 17:19.53 | xqo | this is my xml, what did i do wrong? http://pastebin.com/m7df3bb7d |
| 17:20.00 | xqo | the frame is nil ingame |
| 17:20.24 | alestane | Does it validate? |
| 17:20.38 | alestane | Check FrameXML.log in the logs folder. |
| 17:20.48 | xqo | oh wait |
| 17:21.14 | xqo | line 18 shouldnt be there |
| 17:21.32 | xqo | i removed it, and now it works |
| 17:21.36 | xqo | thanks alot for all your help! |
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| 17:25.07 | Terraan | Anyone know if there is an easy way to get percentage of experience or would I just need to do math for (current/total) type thing? |
| 17:27.49 | Shadowed | math it up |
| 17:28.19 | Terraan | ok thx =) |
| 17:34.05 | ScytheBlade1 | why does EA have to suck so hard :/ |
| 17:34.23 | mikma | nsfw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAXt59SIarw |
| 17:37.32 | alestane | ...um. |
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| 17:39.06 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: Shirik: fisker has the xpac. If you two pic it up.. 2v2 |
| 17:39.18 | ScytheBlade1 | *pick |
| 17:39.35 | Gnarfoz | ~seen tekkub |
| 17:39.35 | purl | tekkub <~tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/GitHub/Tekkub> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 21h 29m 38s ago, saying: 'well that's a lie, I use teh ones that don't exist on windows keyboards, F13-F19'. |
| 17:39.44 | Gnarfoz | where is that furry fucker |
| 17:39.53 | xqo | The frame that holds the fontstring, ive made a function that drags it around. How can i save the position of the frame so i can put it there the next time i load the addon? |
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| 17:41.43 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1: and we want to play with Fisker why? |
| 17:42.35 | amro | that's an interseting topic to join in the middle of |
| 17:43.03 | Duman | lol |
| 17:43.06 | Thunder_Child | you were here for the first part amro |
| 17:43.31 | amro | Thunder_Child: my nick was maybe, but I was offline |
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| 17:48.40 | Fisker | i'd figure you to be the types who'd love beating me up |
| 17:50.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: 2v2 would be fun |
| 17:51.43 | ScytheBlade1 | it can be me+you vs shirik+fiskerdin |
| 17:52.38 | mikma | shisker |
| 17:52.39 | mikma | haha |
| 17:53.01 | Adys | Scyther_Blade |
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| 18:20.57 | xqo | Is there a maximum size for fonts? |
| 18:22.06 | Gnarfoz | there is |
| 18:24.21 | Thunder_Child | thats amusing, i just found a portible radio with an integrated 8-track player |
| 18:33.12 | xqo | How can i play an effect, like a spell-swirl and stuff in a frame? |
| 18:34.21 | Cide | PlayEffect("spell-swirl") |
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| 18:35.28 | Cairenn|afk | mikma: awwwwww |
| 18:37.19 | Cairenn | Happy Valentine's Day |
| 18:39.56 | KarlKFI | you too Cairenn |
| 18:42.40 | Lopeppeppy | Heya, Cairenn! *hugs* |
| 18:42.46 | Lopeppeppy | Happy Heart On Day. |
| 18:42.59 | Cairenn | hugs KarlKFI and Lopeppeppy |
| 18:43.02 | Shadowed | Heart on a Stick day |
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| 18:43.23 | Lopeppeppy | Beat people with a stick day, you say? Excellent. |
| 18:43.32 | Cairenn | hugs Shadowed |
| 18:43.38 | Shadowed | morning cair :p |
| 18:43.44 | Shadowed | Witch hunt day Lopeppeppy |
| 18:43.46 | Shadowed | sticks with fire |
| 18:44.17 | Thunder_Child | Happy Anna Howard Smith Day! |
| 18:45.10 | Shadowed | actually |
| 18:45.13 | Shadowed | is 10:45 AM morning? |
| 18:46.23 | Thunder_Child | yes.... |
| 18:47.42 | Lopeppeppy | For most values of "morning", yes. |
| 18:49.45 | ScytheBlade1 | It is actually my sister's birthday today.. and the one year marker of my uncle passing away at 38 despite being percectly healthy |
| 18:49.56 | ScytheBlade1 | It is a heck of a valentine's day =) |
| 18:50.40 | Lopeppeppy | TKFT told me he was moving out on Valentine's Day two years ago. I really don't much care for the romantic holiday anymore. |
| 18:51.16 | Lopeppeppy | Real classy guy, that. |
| 18:51.26 | ScytheBlade1 | heh |
| 18:51.27 | ScytheBlade1 | very |
| 18:53.40 | Gnarfoz | tkftwhat |
| 18:53.42 | Gnarfoz | also ScytheBlade1 |
| 18:53.43 | Gnarfoz | ~ugt |
| 18:53.44 | purl | methinks ugt is Universal Greeting Time. Created in #mipslinux, it is a rule that states that whenever somebody enters an IRC channel it is always morning, and it is always late when the person leaves. The local time of any other people in the channel, including the greeter, is irrelevant. http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html |
| 18:54.53 | Thunder_Child | Gnarfoz: what did ScytheBlade1 have to do with ugt? |
| 18:55.09 | Gnarfoz | Thunder_Child: nothing, actually, thanks :D |
| 18:55.12 | Gnarfoz | Shadowed: ^ |
| 18:55.39 | Thunder_Child | and speaking of which Gnarfoz |
| 18:55.42 | Thunder_Child | ~fgt |
| 18:55.43 | purl | Fail Greeting Time. This is when you use a time that does not coincide with the starter of the conversation, the loudest, most annoying channel user or in general, any idiot. |
| 18:55.54 | Gnarfoz | lol what the hell |
| 18:56.57 | Xinhuan | fgt is short for faggot |
| 18:57.02 | Xinhuan | not fail greeting time! |
| 18:57.49 | Thunder_Child | fgt. is, not f.g.t. |
| 18:58.05 | Xinhuan | the command's ~fgt not ~f.g.t. |
| 18:58.06 | foxlit | ~factinfo fgt |
| 18:58.06 | purl | fgt -- created by Thunder_Child <n=Thunder_@WoWUIDev/PITA/TC> at Tue Jan 26 21:58:07 2010 (18 days); last modified at Tue Jan 26 22:00:13 2010 by Thunder_Child!n=Thunder_@WoWUIDev/PITA/TC; it has been requested 2 times, last by Thunder_Child, 2m 23s ago. |
| 18:58.23 | Thunder_Child | nor is it fgt. |
| 18:58.32 | Xinhuan | ~fgt. |
| 18:58.33 | purl | Fail Greeting Time. This is when you use a time that does not coincide with the starter of the conversation, the loudest, most annoying channel user or in general, any idiot. |
| 18:58.37 | Xinhuan | there it fits |
| 18:58.47 | Xinhuan | ~f.g.t. |
| 18:58.54 | Xinhuan | see that fails |
| 18:58.56 | Xinhuan | i win! |
| 19:02.23 | Lopeppeppy | Gnarfoz: Team Killing Fucktard, from Red vs. Blue. Also known as "the ex husband" |
| 19:05.31 | Fisker | i need a new mouse |
| 19:05.35 | Fisker | and perhaps a mousepad |
| 19:05.36 | Fisker | giev |
| 19:05.43 | Lopeppeppy | Go bai. |
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| 19:06.28 | Fisker | need to know wat to bai |
| 19:07.08 | zenzelezz | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:09.48 | Lopeppeppy | A nice Razor mouse, and a cheap mousepad that you don't care if the cat pukes on. |
| 19:12.01 | haste | do the razor mice still break by just looking at them? |
| 19:12.11 | haste | I have like a drawer full of boomslang and friends |
| 19:12.24 | Fisker | my cat doesn't puke on my mousepad |
| 19:13.08 | Lopeppeppy | Then you are ahead of the game, Fisker, and can buy something elegant. |
| 19:13.20 | Lopeppeppy | haste, I've heard that the software has gotten more reliable. YMMV. |
| 19:14.00 | zenzelezz | even though I know what "YMMV" means, I keep reading it as "YTMND" |
| 19:14.10 | Lopeppeppy | What on earth is YTMND? |
| 19:14.30 | zenzelezz | "you're the man now, dog". A website for annoying stuff |
| 19:14.43 | Lopeppeppy | Your Teanaged Mutant Ninja Duck? |
| 19:14.58 | zenzelezz | http://karacry.ytmnd.com |
| 19:15.07 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: my last razor moues lasted for ~3-5 years (cant remember) |
| 19:15.09 | Fisker | well what razer mouse is awesome?= |
| 19:15.11 | Thunder_Child | mouse* |
| 19:15.36 | Thunder_Child | and a steelseries mousepad for smoth sliding |
| 19:15.57 | Lopeppeppy | Steelseries, duh, the one made for WoW!!! |
| 19:16.34 | haste | Lopeppeppy: the software isn't the issue at all (and it doesn't matter as I run linux :p) |
| 19:16.47 | haste | the hardware is fragile like glass cannons tho' |
| 19:17.59 | Fisker | what kind of mousepad mr. Thunder_Child ? |
| 19:18.53 | Lopeppeppy | I've only had one mouse crap out on me due to hardware problems, and it was the one my cat loved to knock off my desk, so I forgave it. But I had tons of problems with the logitech software when I first got my MX Revolution. |
| 19:18.56 | Fisker | one made of glass or the QcK stuff? |
| 19:20.18 | Ackis | ping Xinhuan |
| 19:20.24 | Xinhuan | pong |
| 19:20.37 | Ackis | what server are you on? |
| 19:20.47 | Xinhuan | blackrock us |
| 19:21.02 | Ackis | ok I thought so just watned to confirm |
| 19:21.06 | Fisker | slaps Thunder_Child around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:21.23 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, Blackrock, the scourge of Argent Dawn! |
| 19:21.26 | Lopeppeppy | And vice versa. |
| 19:21.59 | haste | I'm still using a logitech mx510 mouse from aeons ago |
| 19:22.08 | haste | the logitech logo and such is gone tho' :P |
| 19:23.13 | Fisker | yeah i just went through my like 4th logitech mouse in a year or so |
| 19:23.14 | Fisker | :o |
| 19:23.38 | Fisker | think there's a lose connection my mouse started scrolling a lot |
| 19:23.48 | Fisker | anyway Thunder_Child |
| 19:23.50 | Fisker | answer me |
| 19:23.55 | Lopeppeppy | what do you do, put them in the dishwasher? |
| 19:24.21 | Fisker | naw |
| 19:24.29 | Fisker | might just have been unlucky |
| 19:25.21 | elec29a | is there some repair time limit i have my mouse an keyboard 2 months in repair... the shops says i must wait |
| 19:26.42 | Fisker | depends on your country's laws or your the specifics of your warranty |
| 19:28.03 | elec29a | ok i should ask our local consumer protection |
| 19:29.03 | Shadowed | Gnarfoz but I never leave the channel, so how does "enters an IRC channel" apply |
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| 19:33.47 | Shadowed | cheater |
| 19:33.52 | Cairenn | *grin* |
| 19:33.57 | Fisker | i hate you Thunder_Child |
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| 19:34.06 | Cairenn | admit it, it made you chuckle |
| 19:34.08 | Gnarfoz | ^5's Cairenn |
| 19:34.19 | Shadowed | it did |
| 19:34.21 | Shadowed | but you still cheat |
| 19:34.27 | Cairenn | hehehhe |
| 19:34.39 | ccox | yes, but SHE is allowed |
| 19:34.45 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 19:35.01 | Shadowed | I will have my revenge |
| 19:35.05 | Shadowed | just you wait |
| 19:35.09 | Cairenn | promises promises |
| 19:35.45 | Shadowed | revenge is best served cold |
| 19:35.46 | Shadowed | or so I hear |
| 19:36.10 | Cairenn | :) |
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| 19:37.07 | Gnarfoz | (old klingon proverb :O) |
| 19:40.37 | Flowy | hello |
| 19:40.47 | Flowy | for i=1,10 do if (i == 5) then ??? end print(i) end |
| 19:41.06 | Flowy | what to write for ??? if I want 1 2 3 4 6 7 8 9 10 |
| 19:41.38 | Shadowed | you already did it pretty much |
| 19:41.48 | Shadowed | lua> for i=1, 10 do if( i ~= 5 ) then print(i) end end |
| 19:41.48 | lua_bot | Shadowed: 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 |
| 19:42.06 | Flowy | there isnt something like "continue" ? |
| 19:42.12 | Shadowed | not in Lua |
| 19:42.22 | Flowy | ok thanks |
| 19:43.10 | foxlit | lua> do break end |
| 19:43.11 | lua_bot | foxlit: luabot:1: no loop to break near 'end' |
| 19:43.30 | foxlit | lua> repeat break until true |
| 19:43.30 | lua_bot | foxlit: No output |
| 19:43.57 | foxlit | lua> for i=1,10 do repeat if i == 5 then break; end print(i) until true end end |
| 19:43.58 | lua_bot | foxlit: luabot:1: '<eof>' expected near 'end' |
| 19:44.10 | foxlit | lua> for i=1,10 do repeat if i == 5 then break; end print(i) until true end |
| 19:44.11 | lua_bot | foxlit: 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 |
| 19:44.22 | foxlit | There you go, your very own language abomination |
| 19:44.45 | NightHawkTheSane | i want a language abomination. |
| 19:45.45 | foxlit | It's not PHP, so you lose the ability to break out of the for. |
| 19:46.42 | Shadowed | that's pretty wacky foxlit :p |
| 19:51.12 | Xinhuan | its not, its a common lua technique for continue ;p |
| 19:51.19 | Xinhuan | a GOTO of sorts |
| 19:51.40 | foxlit | "common"? |
| 19:52.07 | Xinhuan | it works in all languages without continue |
| 19:52.21 | foxlit | I doubt it's commonly used, but yes. |
| 19:52.30 | foxlit | Many languages without continue? |
| 19:52.36 | foxlit | [Are there...] |
| 19:52.46 | Xinhuan | basic is one i think |
| 19:52.55 | foxlit | basic has goto. |
| 19:53.09 | foxlit | so you'd basically do goto endofloop |
| 19:53.28 | Xinhuan | but a "break" is also a goto endofloop! |
| 19:53.30 | foxlit | [and VB apparently has Continue] |
| 19:53.39 | foxlit | break is a goto afterloop |
| 19:55.10 | Kraps | http://www.virtualshackles.com/84 |
| 19:56.02 | Xinhuan | oh great got PKed while chatting :( |
| 19:57.09 | foxlit | So that raises a question. |
| 19:57.14 | foxlit | Is there actually a Pandora in ME2? |
| 19:57.14 | Kraps | WoW Radio has ceased operation, but you can still find all the great shows that you have come to love at their new homes by clicking the links below: |
| 19:57.19 | Kraps | :O |
| 19:57.24 | Kraps | foxlit: no |
| 19:58.30 | Fisker | YES! |
| 19:58.37 | foxlit | Kraps: meh. Drama? |
| 19:58.44 | Fisker | though i only wish it was wow.com and not wow radio |
| 19:59.04 | Kraps | foxlit: no clue |
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| 20:04.42 | foxlit | http://www.thefump.com/fump.php?id=1091 << Can't place the original song |
| 20:06.45 | zenzelezz | is it not aligned on a word boundary? |
| 20:07.12 | foxlit | No, I'm afraid I misplaced the relevant page table. |
| 20:07.37 | foxlit | critical failure, have to defer to outside help |
| 20:08.56 | wolowitz | is there any more snippets around then whats on wowprogramming? |
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| 20:13.28 | foxlit | wolowitz: any particular topic? |
| 20:15.47 | wolowitz | mail |
| 20:15.50 | wolowitz | preferably. |
| 20:16.41 | wolowitz | attempting to make an addon that automatically sends 12stacks of whatever is in your inventory to a toon that is set in my gui. |
| 20:16.57 | wolowitz | like sends your whole inventory 12 stacks at a time. |
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| 20:18.13 | Shadowed | Snippets won't help you too much with that, it's semi-complicated |
| 20:18.46 | wolowitz | not really.. just a for each loop.. just need a general idea. |
| 20:19.02 | Shadowed | It's not just a for each loop :p |
| 20:19.03 | Cide | here's a general idea |
| 20:19.23 | Shadowed | http://github.com/Shadowed/QuickAuctions/blob/master/modules/mail.lua is an example of how you can do it, but that's mixed in with other code |
| 20:19.24 | Cide | for every item slot in your inventory do { for every item in the slot's stack do { attach and send mail } } |
| 20:20.21 | foxlit | pro comment, Shadowed. |
| 20:20.38 | Shadowed | foxlit: and true! |
| 20:20.48 | Shadowed | auto looting while auto mailing is fun |
| 20:21.40 | wolowitz | oh ty shadowed exactly what i want.. just by itself tho haha.. ty |
| 20:22.53 | wolowitz | that mail.lua doesnt use MAIL_SHOW? |
| 20:23.08 | zenzelezz | if you found exactly the code you needed and nothing more, then you wouldn't be coding in the first place since the addon already existed :-p |
| 20:23.24 | Shadowed | don't have to |
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| 20:24.37 | wolowitz | ok so if thats all i want.. i just have to creat a function that registers MAIL_SHOW then put all my guts into it then call it with onClick |
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| 20:32.27 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/q/24609/a-gift-for-the-lord-of-ironforge/ |
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| 20:33.40 | elec29a | does someone know an app like tsoverlay or voiceoverlay both dont work in win7 |
| 20:35.44 | Thunder_Child | voice overlay works in win7 |
| 20:36.29 | elec29a | yes sorry i had to restart wow my fault |
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| 20:40.42 | wolowitz | Ok, If i want my LuA file to read what value an editbox has.. would thisgui.editboxname be all i need? |
| 20:41.33 | Aelobin | are there any actionbar mods that have separate bars for each druid form? |
| 20:41.45 | Aelobin | like, that dont overlap with extra bars :p |
| 20:41.57 | wolowitz | Bartender |
| 20:42.11 | Aelobin | thats overlapping for me |
| 20:42.18 | wolowitz | dont overlap them =\ |
| 20:43.32 | Lopeppeppy | I know it's possible in bartender, I've used that before with my druid and not had a problem. |
| 20:44.13 | Aelobin | i'll have a play around :) see what number bar is what |
| 20:44.19 | Fisker | yay |
| 20:44.54 | wolowitz | Aelobin theres a stance bar in bartender |
| 20:45.02 | Aelobin | i know :p |
| 20:45.35 | wolowitz | if (Dialog.checkbutton == true and Dialog.Target[text] not nil) <-- is that a winner if i want it to check if checkbutton is checked and target has text in it? |
| 20:45.37 | Aelobin | i mean like, if i put something on my bear main bar, it puts it on bar 9 too |
| 20:46.16 | Xinhuan | wolowitz, far from it, like miles |
| 20:46.38 | wolowitz | any documentation on recieving information like that? |
| 20:46.50 | Xinhuan | wowprogramming.com |
| 20:46.51 | Xinhuan | wowwiki.com |
| 20:47.02 | Xinhuan | look for widget APIs |
| 20:47.07 | wolowitz | ty |
| 20:48.41 | Fisker | we killed blood queen lana'thel dead |
| 20:50.08 | Thunder_Child | you trolled her to death? |
| 20:50.52 | Cairenn | ~wowprogramming |
| 20:50.53 | purl | it has been said that wowprogramming is World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons - http://is.gd/7A3Jx - a book written by Cladhaire and Gazmik, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 20:50.58 | Cairenn | ~wowwiki |
| 20:50.59 | purl | The largest English-language Warcraft wiki in existence, with over 73,000 articles. It is located at http://www.wowwiki.com |
| 20:54.17 | wolowitz | str = editBox:GetText() i dont understand.. how do i specify which editbox i want it to getText from.. or is that done in the CheckButton code. |
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| 20:56.36 | Fisker | yes Thunder_Child |
| 20:56.50 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: awesome |
| 20:59.52 | wolowitz | Seriously.. who the fuck do i have to pay to get some help.. I have paypal..? |
| 21:00.10 | Xinhuan | the editbox has a name - you replace it there |
| 21:00.21 | wolowitz | TY. I LOVE YOU |
| 21:01.11 | Xinhuan | perhaps you shuld read existing addon code |
| 21:01.17 | Xinhuan | because you're asking newb questions |
| 21:02.23 | Fisker | btw Thunder_Child |
| 21:02.31 | Fisker | www.razerzone.com/gaming-mice/razer-imperator |
| 21:02.32 | Fisker | i got that |
| 21:02.35 | Fisker | and it better be good |
| 21:02.36 | Fisker | or i hate you |
| 21:03.02 | Xinhuan | you already hate everyone, so it makes no difference |
| 21:03.05 | Gnarfoz | I found it to be quite lacking |
| 21:03.19 | Gnarfoz | tried it out at a store recently |
| 21:03.24 | nevcairiel | those special gaming-mice usually suck |
| 21:03.35 | Gnarfoz | like almost all razer models, it felt crappy :o |
| 21:03.39 | nevcairiel | expensive and sucky |
| 21:03.42 | Fisker | it looked best of the ones i could see :P |
| 21:03.50 | Fisker | and it's less expensive than my g500 so meh |
| 21:03.52 | Gnarfoz | (not to mention the wow mouse, that's a fucking ripoff ;D) |
| 21:03.58 | Fisker | haha yeah |
| 21:04.00 | Fisker | tried it out |
| 21:04.06 | Fisker | feels like driving a bus with your hand |
| 21:04.07 | haste | lol it has BLUE LEDs Fisker |
| 21:04.14 | Fisker | OMG I CAN'T SLEEP THEN |
| 21:04.15 | Gnarfoz | the buttons are all wobbly |
| 21:04.29 | Gnarfoz | the imperator has those movable thumb buttons? |
| 21:04.34 | Fisker | idk |
| 21:04.47 | Gnarfoz | guess what, they don't really feel "stable" in any position |
| 21:04.49 | Gnarfoz | :p |
| 21:04.52 | Fisker | looked somewhat like a normal mouse + is gaming brand(zomg) + cheap |
| 21:04.55 | Fisker | = purchase |
| 21:05.09 | Fisker | maybe i'll just GLUE THEM there Gnarfoz |
| 21:05.32 | Gnarfoz | maybe I'll just GLUE YOUR EYES SHUT |
| 21:05.40 | mikma | haste: http://robbiekhan.co.uk/root/randompics/random/in-the-club-FAIL.jpg |
| 21:05.45 | Fisker | I don't need no stinkin' eyes to troll |
| 21:07.11 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: lt me know when it's past the return date, then i will tell you it sucks |
| 21:07.18 | wolowitz | Xinhuan: if (Automail:GetChecked() == 1 and MailTarget:GetText()) then <- better? |
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| 21:09.02 | Fisker | i don't care Thunder_Child |
| 21:09.48 | Thunder_Child | lies Fisker, lies |
| 21:10.16 | Thunder_Child | you are just bitter that you are going to get beat in RA3 |
| 21:12.34 | ScytheBlade1 | there it is |
| 21:14.53 | Fisker | i'm not going to play it anyway |
| 21:17.24 | elec29a | howto print each char in a differentcolor with print ? i cant find that line in necrosis |
| 21:18.32 | Thunder_Child | do you believe Fisker ScytheBlade1? i dont. |
| 21:18.47 | Fisker | del buono |
| 21:19.15 | mikma | lol 7-0 already, go usa women |
| 21:19.25 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 21:19.27 | Fisker | del buono |
| 21:30.43 | wolowitz | do you need to unregister every event you register? |
| 21:48.24 | foxlit | wonders what this mysterious "Alliance" he's gaining rep with is. |
| 21:49.08 | zenzelezz | it's a conspiracy |
| 21:49.49 | trahma | is there an easy way to read variables from another addon? for example if I want to load a gearscore for a character from the gearscore addon, can i just use GS_Data["ServerName"]["Players"]["CharacterName"]["GearScore"] ? |
| 21:51.10 | foxlit | Depends on the addon you wish to steal data from. |
| 21:51.47 | trahma | in this case gearscore |
| 21:52.41 | trahma | gearscore seems to store all of its data in a table called GS_Data |
| 21:52.59 | trahma | i'm not sure if i'm referencing indexes correctly with the above style though |
| 21:53.00 | ZorbaTHut | trahma, while it's technically possible, I don't know of any addons that actually hide their savedvariables data. in theory you can pull data from there |
| 21:53.06 | Pneumatus | return math.random(9001, math.huge) |
| 21:53.16 | ZorbaTHut | that said, the actual method of storage depends entirely on the UI mod |
| 21:53.22 | ZorbaTHut | you'll have to reverse-engineer how gearscore stores stuff. |
| 21:54.16 | trahma | zorba: i'm looking at the lua file in the WTF folder for gearscore, assuming my names are correct, should the syntax such as /print (GS_Data["ServerName"]["Players"]["CharacterName"]["GearScore"]); work fine? |
| 21:54.21 | Shadowed | eh? |
| 21:54.27 | ZorbaTHut | the syntax is legal |
| 21:54.27 | Shadowed | it's not possible to hide your SV |
| 21:54.36 | Shadowed | you can make it more annoying to access, you can't hide it |
| 21:54.44 | ZorbaTHut | I have no bloody clue if that follows the actual pattern |
| 21:54.47 | foxlit | lua> return math.random(9001, math.huge) |
| 21:54.48 | lua_bot | foxlit: luabot:1: bad argument #2 to 'random' (interval is empty) |
| 21:54.52 | foxlit | qq! |
| 21:54.56 | Pneumatus | :< |
| 21:55.03 | ZorbaTHut | shadowed, can't you hook the load message, snatch the table and nil it out, and then hook the save message to put the table back so it can be written? |
| 21:55.12 | haste | Shadowed: you can nil it out as soon as your add-on has access to it, and hope no other add-ons manged to fetch it before |
| 21:55.15 | Pneumatus | why isn't math.huge a valid max number? :< |
| 21:55.23 | Shadowed | only if you can rely on load order |
| 21:55.28 | foxlit | because it's Not A Number(tm) |
| 21:55.35 | Shadowed | which you can't |
| 21:55.42 | ZorbaTHut | so, okay, you can rig it so that people can't reliably snatch the table :) |
| 21:56.12 | Shadowed | Although you could always include a TOc dropin that makes your addon opt |
| 21:56.16 | ZorbaTHut | (that said I have no idea why anyone would do this) |
| 21:56.24 | haste | it's gearscore |
| 21:58.15 | Fisker | http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Chamber+of+Aspects&cn=Hairybanana <-cool cloak, bro |
| 21:58.45 | Pneumatus | tank cloak on rogue is srs bsnss |
| 21:59.02 | ZorbaTHut | my death knight has lost the last three tank upgrades to people who weren't tanking |
| 21:59.05 | Pneumatus | almost as awesome as shitty gems and no enchants |
| 21:59.15 | ZorbaTHut | two of them to hunters, one of them to possibly the worst ret paladin I've ever seen :( |
| 21:59.22 | Pneumatus | worst thing is, that tank cloak is 50 frost badges |
| 21:59.57 | ZorbaTHut | check out his second ring, too |
| 22:00.03 | ZorbaTHut | isn't that a bunch of triumph badges there? |
| 22:00.14 | Pneumatus | no, frost |
| 22:00.16 | Pneumatus | its 264 |
| 22:00.25 | ZorbaTHut | no, his second ring |
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| 22:00.29 | ZorbaTHut | 245, clutch of fortification |
| 22:00.38 | ZorbaTHut | also tanking gear :D |
| 22:00.59 | Pneumatus | pro tank rogue |
| 22:01.08 | Pneumatus | Hard rock killers are clearly srs bsnss |
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| 22:02.43 | ZorbaTHut | I like how his crafted offhand is enchanted, but his higher-ilvl mainhand isn't |
| 22:02.48 | ZorbaTHut | (also argh internet fuck you) |
| 22:03.17 | zenzelezz | y u h8 :( |
| 22:05.10 | Pneumatus | i like how he doesnt have more than 1 of the same gem |
| 22:05.42 | Pneumatus | 16hit, 20crit, 40ap, 6stats and 20agi |
| 22:05.54 | zenzelezz | it's because he's a unique and beautiful cornflake |
| 22:06.17 | Kraps | hes obviously a rouge tank |
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| 22:13.08 | Lopeppeppy | Ah, the cats are working together to shun me. I got out The Suitcase. |
| 22:13.37 | alestane | Now they know Mommy is going away without them? |
| 22:13.59 | Lopeppeppy | Moose knows what it means, and Rosie I think is just picking up on the feline hate aura. |
| 22:17.02 | Lopeppeppy | Why do people still think that giving funky names to babies is cool? If you have to explain "we chose this because XYZ, and we changed the spelling because X was too common and Y seemed cooler"... Think of the kid, in 25 years, trying to explain to their date why they have a stupid name. |
| 22:17.24 | Shadowed | "My parents hated me" |
| 22:17.33 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, pretty much. |
| 22:17.56 | Gnarfoz | all kids have their names because of their parents. "because my parents wanted it so" thus is always the correct answer. |
| 22:18.34 | Shadowed | It's the worlds oldest hazing ritual |
| 22:18.45 | Shadowed | "My parents gave me a terrible name, so you do too" |
| 22:18.45 | Lopeppeppy | Shadow is the name of a dog, not the name of a kid. |
| 22:18.59 | Lopeppeppy | No offense, darlin' Shadowed. *kiss kiss* |
| 22:19.09 | Shadowed | Shadow is the name of a hedgehog! |
| 22:19.22 | Shadowed | Do you know some parents who are naming their kid shadow? |
| 22:19.28 | Shadowed | I think you can call CPS on them |
| 22:19.37 | Shadowed | (Also my dog was named Shadow) |
| 22:20.06 | Lopeppeppy | See? Pets, not people! |
| 22:20.10 | Lopeppeppy | pets Shadowed. |
| 22:20.25 | Shadowed | I'm going to call you pepper from now on for that |
| 22:20.34 | Shadowed | peppy pepper |
| 22:20.38 | Lopeppeppy | *purr* |
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| 22:26.12 | Cruciformer | could someone with curse-fu possibly see their way to approving an upload for project "ksk" so I dont get more bug reports for an issue thats fixed? |
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| 22:37.07 | WobWork | http://i.gizmodo.com/5157354/boy-killed-anally-when-office-chair-explodes |
| 22:37.08 | WobWork | O.O |
| 22:37.47 | Shadowed | Isn't that an old story from like, 2 years ago |
| 22:38.07 | kraftman | yup |
| 22:38.19 | zenzelezz | that marked the end of the pipe-bomb chair's popularity |
| 22:39.08 | Shadowed | time to write a movie script based off that |
| 22:39.17 | Cruciformer | i blame the boy for jumping up and down so much on teh chair it caused the gas canister to become over-compressed. |
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| 22:39.38 | Cruciformer | if you want to jump get a trampoline. |
| 22:39.48 | Kraps | [2] anan office chair |
| 22:39.56 | Kraps | anal* |
| 22:43.07 | Mr_Rabies | my chair was acting strange a while ago |
| 22:43.21 | Mr_Rabies | i try to fix it and the pneumatic thing explodes and starts leaking fluid everywhere |
| 22:43.27 | Mr_Rabies | ears were ringing for hours |
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| 22:45.28 | Kraps | the best thing about this video is the comments |
| 22:45.30 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D2VLmCPTbQ&feature=popt00us13 |
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| 22:55.19 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: for your cats http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oI63SmXSdjM |
| 22:56.57 | Lopeppeppy | You think a cat is going to get near a machine? For petting? |
| 22:56.59 | Lopeppeppy | *dies laughing* |
| 22:58.03 | Kraps | HE LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK K? |
| 22:58.09 | Mr_Rabies | it's....phenominal |
| 22:58.23 | Mr_Rabies | my friend used to harass his cats with one of those annoying talking duck things |
| 22:58.30 | Shadowed | to be fair Lopeppeppy |
| 22:58.33 | Mr_Rabies | and it basically does the same thing as that hand |
| 22:58.41 | Shadowed | people buy horribly complicated pet toys when all a cat needs is a box or a paper bag |
| 22:58.43 | Mr_Rabies | blares out loud noises through a speaker and runs an electric motor |
| 22:58.58 | zenzelezz | and in fact they enjoy the paper bags more |
| 22:59.14 | Shadowed | oh man |
| 22:59.16 | Shadowed | the speaker makes it |
| 22:59.17 | Shadowed | yhahahaha |
| 22:59.27 | Lopeppeppy | My cats get the rings off milk jugs, the tops of soda bottles, and sparkly tin mice. That's it. |
| 22:59.33 | Lopeppeppy | Not even a laser pointer. |
| 22:59.48 | zenzelezz | never give your cats laser pointers |
| 22:59.48 | Shadowed | Lopeppeppy: Sisters cat tries to open the doors |
| 23:00.01 | zenzelezz | you never know when they'll get grumpy and point them in your eyes |
| 23:00.10 | Mr_Rabies | i throw milk jugs to my dog every now and then |
| 23:00.15 | Mr_Rabies | he fights to the death witht hem |
| 23:00.32 | Lopeppeppy | Mooseling steals pens and engages in death matches with aliens in the bathtub. |
| 23:00.37 | Mr_Rabies | he also managed to eat all the shingles on his dog house |
| 23:00.38 | zenzelezz | heck... everything a cat needs is something that can move |
| 23:00.49 | Fisker | i'm killing you zenzelezz |
| 23:00.55 | Mr_Rabies | he's a weird dog |
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| 23:01.07 | Mr_Rabies | he sleeps on top of a huge stump and carries a blanket around everywhere with him |
| 23:01.20 | zenzelezz | my dad used to put a bag he carried to work leaning against a door at home. Sometimes the bag was slightly unbalanced, so it pushed at the door. The cat would hiss and move cautiously towards it, slap it and back off |
| 23:01.24 | zenzelezz | then repeat |
| 23:01.55 | Mr_Rabies | friends cat was sniffing my foot one day while i was playing video games at his place |
| 23:02.09 | Mr_Rabies | i wiggle my toe a little and the cat does a backflip and takes off |
| 23:02.17 | Mr_Rabies | cats are awesome, i wish i wasn't so allergic |
| 23:02.54 | Corrodias | it is possible that spending enough time around them can reduce the reaction |
| 23:03.01 | zenzelezz | are you allergic to all kinds? Some long-haired ones have a different kind of fur |
| 23:03.01 | Corrodias | although that's hardly a fun way to deal with it |
| 23:03.32 | Mr_Rabies | i'm allergic to pretty much any animal |
| 23:03.36 | zenzelezz | :( |
| 23:03.44 | Mr_Rabies | any time i visit anyone with housepets i have to take benadryl |
| 23:04.09 | Mr_Rabies | or some kind of antihistamine or i start tearing up, sneezing, and generally feeling lousy |
| 23:04.19 | zenzelezz | my brother had a friend over for a LAN party once, and the friend turned a drawer upside down to put his keyboard and mouse on. After they'd been at the store, he sat down, and then screamed like heck |
| 23:04.23 | Corrodias | :( |
| 23:04.24 | Lopeppeppy | I'm allergic to my cats. :) I live on Claritin and Benadryl. |
| 23:04.27 | Mr_Rabies | my immune system is too good sometimes :( |
| 23:04.36 | zenzelezz | our cat had climbed inside the drawers and was pawing him |
| 23:04.56 | Kraps | THESE WHEELS ARE INTENSE BRO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnHRSLcXzQ&feature=related |
| 23:05.02 | Cairenn | yay Christina! |
| 23:05.41 | Mr_Rabies | i'm allergic to pretty much anything airborne like that |
| 23:05.45 | Lopeppeppy | Cats love to be In. And Under. |
| 23:05.57 | Mr_Rabies | but i can eat any food, take any medicine, etc and be okay |
| 23:06.04 | Mr_Rabies | pollen, dust, dander, cigarette smoke |
| 23:06.31 | Mr_Rabies | anything particulate and airborne will make my head go crazy with histamine |
| 23:07.12 | Fisker | i used to carry you to work zenzelezz |
| 23:07.16 | zenzelezz | Lopeppeppy: of course :) For a period our cat would stick her head under the sofa cushions, lifting them up to inspect what was underneath |
| 23:07.52 | zenzelezz | we'd come home and all the cushions were in disorder |
| 23:08.04 | Mr_Rabies | my friend has a miniature pinscher who tries to cover himself with a fleece blanket and cannot manage to do it |
| 23:08.19 | Mr_Rabies | so he'll attack it with his face for like an hour until you wrap him up in it like a burrito |
| 23:08.29 | Lopeppeppy | moose loves to get under the comforter. Except now the bed is Rosies |
| 23:08.55 | Mr_Rabies | tundra's pretty awesome though, it snowed over here which is a rare occurance |
| 23:09.16 | Mr_Rabies | and he was carrying my nephew's sled back up the hill for him |
| 23:09.17 | zenzelezz | hehe |
| 23:09.21 | Mr_Rabies | grabbing the rope and bringing it up |
| 23:09.45 | Lopeppeppy | Some dogs just really love to work. |
| 23:09.50 | Mr_Rabies | he's pretty damned smart too |
| 23:10.06 | Mr_Rabies | he climbs his dog house and surveys his land down the hill |
| 23:10.27 | Fisker | i want to sleep zenzelezz |
| 23:10.42 | zenzelezz | so go to sleep |
| 23:10.58 | Fisker | but how? |
| 23:11.10 | zenzelezz | have a wank and go to bed like everyone else |
| 23:11.15 | Mr_Rabies | he was dragging around and eating chunks of ice that we emptied from his water bowl to refill when it froze |
| 23:11.23 | Mr_Rabies | he's a weird one |
| 23:11.33 | zenzelezz | hehe |
| 23:11.58 | Mr_Rabies | wouldn't eat steak trimmings but steals blueberries from the bush or tree or whatever they're called sometimes when we let him out |
| 23:12.00 | zenzelezz | our cat will freeze in whatever position she's in when we put down her food bowl, usually half-way between sitting and standing |
| 23:12.47 | Mr_Rabies | we bought him preowned from gamestop so he has some weird mannerisms |
| 23:12.50 | Corrodias | i have a fluffy little kitty in my lap |
| 23:13.08 | zenzelezz | gamestop? Isn't that just a game store? |
| 23:13.36 | WobWork | hehe, that's what -I- thought too =P |
| 23:13.37 | Mr_Rabies | i'm just kidding of course, we just got him from his previous owner who couldn't afford to keep feeding him |
| 23:13.47 | zenzelezz | ah |
| 23:13.53 | zenzelezz | how old was he? |
| 23:13.56 | Mr_Rabies | she was feeding him weird expensive semi-vegetarian stuff or something |
| 23:13.57 | Corrodias | man. you gotta be on hard times not to afford feeding a dog. |
| 23:14.03 | Mr_Rabies | a few months |
| 23:14.09 | Mr_Rabies | he was pretty underfed |
| 23:14.21 | Mr_Rabies | his coat was small and he wasn't very built |
| 23:14.26 | Mr_Rabies | he was also an inside dog |
| 23:14.33 | Corrodias | damn, not a very smart pet owner |
| 23:14.37 | WobWork | hehe @BorowitzReport: Good news: Sarah Palin could never be sworn in as President because she'd have no hands free to read from. |
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| 23:14.51 | Mr_Rabies | we slowly acclamated him to being an outside dog, gave him more nutritrious yet cheaper food |
| 23:14.54 | Fisker | ooooooooooooooooh snap WobWork |
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| 23:14.59 | zenzelezz | sticky ctrl key is sticky |
| 23:15.08 | Mr_Rabies | and his coat grew out and he's pretty muscular now |
| 23:15.16 | Cruciformer | sarah palin is purdy |
| 23:15.22 | zenzelezz | over here people who are addicted to drugs sometimes get dogs, because then they get social welfare to feed the dog |
| 23:15.27 | Mr_Rabies | he's got a huge pen and we let him out to roam around our property when we get a chance |
| 23:15.33 | zenzelezz | okay, Cruciformer's been hacked |
| 23:15.36 | Mr_Rabies | ~6 acres or so |
| 23:15.42 | Cruciformer | :) |
| 23:15.49 | WobWork | Cruciformer: until she opens her mouth =P |
| 23:16.02 | WobWork | or moves her face |
| 23:16.03 | Cruciformer | I didnt say she was smart ... I said she was purdy :) |
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| 23:16.19 | zenzelezz | I know what you said |
| 23:16.23 | WobWork | oh god, that 'saucy wink' was so -creepy- |
| 23:16.26 | Cruciformer | or maybe Im just thinking of the nailin' palin video. cant really be sure anymore. |
| 23:16.42 | Mr_Rabies | part of purdiness to me is an intelligent...spark? i can't really explain it |
| 23:17.20 | zenzelezz | you guys should just give up and make Oprah president |
| 23:17.20 | WobWork | Palin is sexy... in still frames and on mute |
| 23:17.23 | Mr_Rabies | if you're lacking in intelligence there's typically something missing in your demeanor and it's obvious to me |
| 23:17.38 | WobWork | But then, so is bacon |
| 23:17.39 | Cruciformer | Mr_Rabies: for me that part of "beauty". but something /. someone can just be pretty. but for me, beauty requires more than just the aesthetic. |
| 23:18.22 | Cruciformer | like natscha mcelhone ... shes beautiful :) |
| 23:18.32 | wolowitz | can i use Print to send an existing addons slash command? |
| 23:18.36 | Mr_Rabies | there's quite a few undereducated people around where i live in the rural south and it's pretty obvious when someone is missing a few screws |
| 23:18.45 | wolowitz | or is there anyway of executing another addon's slash command |
| 23:19.04 | Cruciformer | wolwotits: get the handler function for it from teh slash command table and just call it |
| 23:19.08 | Mr_Rabies | different body language or something, i'm not really sure what it is |
| 23:19.43 | Cruciformer | Mr_Rabies: I know exactly what you talking about. there really is something different in a smart person's deportment. |
| 23:20.43 | Mr_Rabies | i don't want to sound like an elitist or anything, but i've gotten pretty good at reading body language and figuring out what to expect in a person |
| 23:21.20 | wolowitz | Cruciformer thank u.. and lol @ wolwotits |
| 23:21.29 | Mr_Rabies | either way how about those wow addons |
| 23:21.36 | Mr_Rabies | i hear they're lualicious |
| 23:21.45 | wolowitz | luame |
| 23:22.10 | wolowitz | luadacris |
| 23:23.08 | wolowitz | if you have ##SavedVariablesPerCharacter do you still need to call local variable = true |
| 23:23.14 | wolowitz | or just variable = true |
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| 23:24.47 | alestane | SavedVariables are always global if you want them to be saved. |
| 23:25.20 | wolowitz | so aslong as its in your toc.. you dont have to worry about 'local' 'global' |
| 23:27.01 | alestane | If you assign a value to a name declared as local, it will go in that local variable, instead of the global variable that WoW will save. So no, don't use "local" with variable names that are in your .toc if you want them to work right. |
| 23:27.43 | tekkub | or do what everyone does |
| 23:27.53 | tekkub | set the SV to a table on ADDON_LOADED for your addon |
| 23:28.00 | tekkub | then save a local ref to said table |
| 23:28.46 | tekkub | WhateverAddonDB = WhateverAddonDB or {} |
| 23:28.48 | tekkub | local db = WhateverAddonDB |
| 23:29.04 | wolowitz | yea im just starting out in LuA.. so im not sure if thats my easiest option |
| 23:29.36 | tekkub | http://github.com/tekkub/addontemplate |
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| 23:31.13 | jnwhiteh | LuA |
| 23:31.14 | jnwhiteh | that's a new one |
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| 23:32.36 | Cruciformer | jnwhiteh: you'll be unpleased to hear our local bookstore doesnt stock your book and I had to special order it. |
| 23:33.10 | wolowitz | what is '. . .' all about? |
| 23:33.14 | Cruciformer | which is surprising a little becuase wow is huge down here. |
| 23:33.17 | jnwhiteh | it happens, can't expect every bookstore to carry it |
| 23:33.18 | jnwhiteh | *shrug* |
| 23:33.19 | wolowitz | local myname, ns = ... |
| 23:33.22 | jnwhiteh | maybe they will after you order it |
| 23:33.55 | Cruciformer | wolowitz: If a punction is passed a variable number of arguments thats how you extract individual parts out of the varargs (if you are not using select) |
| 23:34.19 | Cruciformer | *function |
| 23:34.31 | Cruciformer | jnwhiteh: yeah the special order in minimum quantities of 5. |
| 23:34.55 | wolowitz | oh |
| 23:35.20 | wolowitz | yea no idea.. |
| 23:35.39 | Cruciformer | wolowitz: would you like an example? |
| 23:36.10 | wolowitz | yes please if you may. |
| 23:36.38 | Cruciformer | local function foo (...) local one, two, three = ...; end |
| 23:36.43 | Cruciformer | foo (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6) |
| 23:36.56 | Cruciformer | you are calling foo with a variable number of arguments |
| 23:37.15 | wolowitz | oh so you can only use ... inside a function. |
| 23:37.16 | Cruciformer | inside function foo the variabkle "one" would get the value 1, ariable two would get teh value 2 etc |
| 23:37.45 | wolowitz | tekkub's code confused me.. the function part isnt shown |
| 23:38.12 | wolowitz | i was unsure how local one, two, three = ... would know which array to pick from |
| 23:38.26 | Gagorian | I think what wolowitz is refering to is the addon specific table that Blizzard passes to each file |
| 23:38.50 | wolowitz | no Gagorian ty but Cruciformer is on the dot.. |
| 23:39.02 | Cruciformer | new in 3.3 is the feature that an addon also gets ..., the first argument of which is the addons name and the second is a "porivate table" for the addon to use. Not sure what purpose the second one serves at all, but its there. |
| 23:39.22 | wolowitz | lol |
| 23:39.23 | krka | it's simply a way for you to organize your data |
| 23:39.26 | wolowitz | well ty |
| 23:39.28 | krka | without polluting the global environment |
| 23:39.45 | wolowitz | man where did you guys start learning haha.. school? |
| 23:39.45 | Cruciformer | krka: and that differes from "local myaddontable = {}" in what way? |
| 23:39.57 | krka | several lua files in your addon can share a local table |
| 23:40.07 | Cruciformer | ah good point. |
| 23:40.18 | krka | indeed |
| 23:40.31 | wolowitz | krka as long as its a dep in ur toc yes? |
| 23:40.33 | Cruciformer | wol: I started learning Lua a few months back. Its a pretty simple language for the most part. |
| 23:41.03 | wolowitz | Cruciformer if you may.. can i pastebin my script and you just quickly see if theres any syntax errors? |
| 23:41.08 | krka | wolowitz: it goes for all lua files in your addon that are loaded by wow |
| 23:41.17 | wolowitz | oh |
| 23:41.39 | Cruciformer | so at the top of your file you can have something like: local myaddonname, myaddontable = ... |
| 23:41.55 | krka | wolowitz: check syntax errors with the command line lua tool |
| 23:41.59 | Cruciformer | and then myaddontable will refer to the same addon-private table in all *.lua files loaded by your addon. |
| 23:42.07 | krka | or here: http://www.lua.org/demo.html |
| 23:42.23 | krka | or here: http://wowprogramming.com/utils/weblua |
| 23:42.27 | Cruciformer | sure wolowtits im not busy |
| 23:43.25 | Cruciformer | or you can use those resources krka pointed you at :) |
| 23:43.30 | wolowitz | fr:RegisterEvent("MAIL_SHOW"), function() apparently thats wrong =\ |
| 23:43.43 | Cruciformer | yeah too many parentheses |
| 23:43.46 | krka | hm, i wonder if you could implement a wow-demo by compiling the lua code to equivalent javascript |
| 23:43.51 | krka | and just run it in a browser |
| 23:43.51 | wolowitz | oh |
| 23:43.55 | wolowitz | SetScript is for function? |
| 23:44.02 | Cruciformer | fr:RegisterEvent ("MAIL_SHOW", function () whatever end) |
| 23:44.23 | wolowitz | oh |
| 23:45.17 | Cruciformer | the second argument to RegisterEvent is a function. You can either point it to a function that already exists or you can "inline" the function as in the syntax above. I think the Lua terminology for that is a "closure". |
| 23:46.04 | Legorol | "closure" is something else, although related to functions. |
| 23:46.23 | Legorol | other than that, your explanation is correct |
| 23:46.29 | jnwhiteh | its just a function, regardless of how or where it's defined =) |
| 23:46.33 | jnwhiteh | night all |
| 23:46.43 | Legorol | (although not 100% technically correct, but it gets the idea across) |
| 23:46.44 | Cruciformer | wolowitz: keep it public |
| 23:48.00 | wolowitz | http://pastebin.com/m519eac4a |
| 23:48.17 | wolowitz | first script ever and im rusty as hell ive only ever coded php+mysql so go easy on me :P |
| 23:48.31 | wolowitz | and most of that is takin from QuickAuctions mailer.. i just adjusted it so it didnt need all its crap |
| 23:48.34 | wolowitz | tried to atleast. |
| 23:49.39 | wolowitz | ignore the local on the target variables they obviously have to be taken out for SV |
| 23:52.52 | cbreak | why do you use global variables named Mail and this? |
| 23:52.54 | cbreak | those are bad names |
| 23:53.26 | Fisker | slaps jnwhiteh around a bit with a large trout |
| 23:53.30 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh |
| 23:55.15 | wolowitz | cbreak i do realise that - its something i would of revised later. |
| 23:55.18 | Cruciformer | I havent studied it closely but the "if (not locked)" bit is completely superfluous as you already do a return if it was locked, so that condition will always be true |
| 23:56.20 | Gagorian | Basically you shouldn't use any globals that aren't your addon name or your saved variables DB |
| 23:56.58 | Fisker | ok well then screw you Gagorian |
| 23:56.58 | wolowitz | locked |
| 23:56.58 | wolowitz | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:57.15 | wolowitz | what if i use completely random names like QjjkskQjje |
| 23:57.20 | wolowitz | doubt anything else is using that. |
| 23:57.20 | PProvost | In fact, you can use the passed in namespace and avoid even using your addon name as a global |
| 23:57.21 | Cruciformer | I know what iots for but consider this: |
| 23:57.26 | Cruciformer | if (locked) then return end |
| 23:57.33 | Cruciformer | if (not locked) then some_code(); end |
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| 23:57.48 | wolowitz | oh |
| 23:57.48 | ZorbaTHut | oh boy, joined a FoS group as a healer. apparently they're on the last boss |
| 23:57.49 | wolowitz | rofl |
| 23:57.50 | PProvost | local myname, ns = ... |
| 23:57.54 | Cruciformer | that second "if (not locked)" is completely superfluous as the condition will always be true |
| 23:57.56 | ZorbaTHut | kinda curious what happened to their last healer |
| 23:57.58 | PProvost | then hide eventhing in ns and be safe |
| 23:58.01 | PProvost | no conflicts |
| 23:58.25 | Gagorian | wolowitz: The point is you don't need to use globals, even if they're random like that. Besides local variables are faster to use |
| 23:58.34 | trahma | stupid question for 500... how do i close a frame i create? |
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| 23:58.42 | Gagorian | You can't delete frames |
| 23:58.43 | Cruciformer | frame:Hide () |
| 23:58.50 | wolowitz | so should i take out the first one since locked is set anyway? |
| 23:58.55 | Gagorian | If that's what you meant |
| 23:59.05 | Arrowmaster | also the indentation isnt alined properly so its hard to follow the if statements at a quick glance |
| 23:59.11 | trahma | for some reason i couldnt find it on the api |
| 23:59.13 | trahma | thanks :) |
| 23:59.17 | Cruciformer | No you should take out the "if (not locked) then" condition and just have the code there |
| 23:59.28 | wolowitz | Gagorian i will only be using SV to check a few checkbuttons and save text from an editbox |
