| 00:01.52 | Sesshu | hmm why CombatLog_Object_IsA(68136, COMBATLOG_OBJECT_AFFILIATION_OUTSIDER) returns nil? 68136 is in hex 0x10A28 so it is an outsider. does anyone know what is wrong here? |
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| 00:08.13 | shifuimam | so since i have no way of turning on debugging in RoM, are there any lua interpreters I should keep handy for debugging? |
| 00:08.34 | Iriel | I just have a stock lua 5.1 install around for testing |
| 00:08.59 | Iriel | obviously you're limited in terms of what kind of thing you can test |
| 00:09.39 | shifuimam | when i hook a function, do i have to call the original function inside the hook, or can i call it elsewhere? |
| 00:10.22 | Iriel | You can do whatever you want, if you dont call the original then you're "replacing" rather than "hooking", of course |
| 00:11.28 | shifuimam | well i guess what i mean is that i need to delay the original equipment swapping function until i've processed through my list of eq |
| 00:15.21 | Iriel | Then I'd say you'd be replacing the original with yours, and yours would eventually call the original |
| 00:15.34 | Iriel | hopefully that wont confuse too much code |
| 00:17.09 | shifuimam | yeah, it's breaking once it's done removing the specific eq slots |
| 00:17.21 | shifuimam | it gets stuck on "out of eq" |
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| 00:20.10 | shifuimam | it seems like it's not going back once it's done processing |
| 00:20.25 | shifuimam | http://pastebin.com/m1d4f5de2 |
| 00:20.32 | shifuimam | lines 80 and 83 |
| 00:21.03 | shifuimam | it shows the counter which starts the process of removing selected eq and storing it in the bag, but it never goes back to run the original unhooked SwapEquipmentItem() |
| 00:21.43 | batrick | Awesome wikipedia picture: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goose_bumps |
| 00:22.10 | shifuimam | HAHAHA |
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| 00:23.35 | Iriel | Heh, the first comment on the discussion page is funny |
| 00:23.44 | batrick | indeed |
| 00:27.00 | Sesshu | so.. how can i find out if the source of an attack is hostly or friendly? |
| 00:27.47 | Sesshu | ...by using the combatlog event |
| 00:29.55 | Gagorian | Well isn't an attack by definition hostile? |
| 00:30.22 | Gagorian | So if you're attacked it's hostile, if you get healed it's friendly |
| 00:31.18 | Sesshu | not if the attack is hostly.. i want to know if the unit that attacks is hostly or friendly |
| 00:31.37 | Iriel | Gagorian: You look at the flags on the event |
| 00:32.27 | Gagorian | Well that's what I meant |
| 00:32.56 | Sesshu | what did you mean? |
| 00:36.08 | Gagorian | Well if the combatlog event is a heal or a buff it's from a friendly target, if it's damage or a debuff etc. it's hostile |
| 00:37.28 | Gagorian | But you can check the sourceFlags too |
| 00:37.50 | olafski | you can take damage from allies.. |
| 00:38.20 | Sesshu | if my friend attacks a monster the target is hostile but if my friend got attacked by a monster the target is my friend |
| 00:38.22 | Sesshu | so |
| 00:38.30 | olafski | or even from yourself ;) |
| 00:38.38 | Sesshu | yep |
| 00:38.40 | olafski | oh, that too |
| 00:39.06 | Sesshu | so i need the Flags |
| 00:40.45 | Sesshu | ok for example the source flag is 68168 (that was the flag of one monster that attacked me some minutes ago) how can i find out if that one is hostile? |
| 00:42.24 | Gagorian | http://www.wowwiki.com/COMBAT_LOG_EVENT_UNFILTERED |
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| 00:44.50 | Sesshu | that one doesn't help and http://www.wowwiki.com/UnitFlag as well not.. i need a function or something |
| 00:45.13 | shifuimam | how do you get the length of a table? e.g. the number of rows |
| 00:45.20 | shifuimam | # TableName doesn't work |
| 00:45.29 | Gagorian | Do you have numerical keys? |
| 00:45.34 | shifuimam | yes |
| 00:45.42 | Iriel | Consecutive? |
| 00:45.43 | shifuimam | but they're not consecutive |
| 00:45.43 | Iriel | Starting at 1 |
| 00:45.45 | Iriel | No gaps |
| 00:45.49 | Iriel | Then dont use # |
| 00:45.54 | shifuimam | okay. what should i use? |
| 00:45.56 | Gagorian | You need to iterate |
| 00:45.58 | Iriel | you're asking the wrong question |
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| 00:45.59 | shifuimam | oh ok |
| 00:46.06 | Iriel | Do you need to know 'how many entries' or 'does it have any entries'? |
| 00:46.15 | shifuimam | if it has any entries |
| 00:46.24 | Iriel | if next(tbl) ~= nil |
| 00:46.26 | Iriel | then it has entries |
| 00:46.28 | Kraps | evening |
| 00:46.32 | shifuimam | ah |
| 00:46.33 | shifuimam | okay |
| 00:47.43 | Cairenn | Gagorian: ping? |
| 00:48.09 | Sesshu | wtb funtion to compare flags from combatlog event with combatlog constants! |
| 00:48.12 | Sesshu | function |
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| 00:48.37 | Gagorian | Cairenn: yes? |
| 00:49.14 | Cairenn | we just realized that you never got back to Shirik earlier .... |
| 00:49.48 | Gagorian | Did he ask me anything? |
| 00:49.56 | Fisker | this is all your fault |
| 00:50.18 | Fisker | we were like "lets kill Sindragosa" |
| 00:50.22 | Fisker | but Cairenn was like "noooooooooooooooo" |
| 00:51.54 | Fisker | btw |
| 00:52.03 | Fisker | why do scrubs always get the good loot? |
| 00:52.18 | Gagorian | What did you get Fisker? |
| 00:52.28 | Fisker | Someone who's barely been 80 for a week just (s)trolled into SFK to get the new season boss |
| 00:52.32 | Fisker | got the mount |
| 00:52.44 | Fisker | i got 1 Abyss Crystal |
| 00:52.55 | Fisker | and it'll probably be hotfixed because 5 abyss crystals a day is OP |
| 00:53.14 | Bruners | hi Fisker |
| 00:53.40 | Fisker | herro Bruners |
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| 00:56.14 | olafski | do you need a quest for the seasonal boss, fisker? |
| 00:56.35 | Fisker | there's a pre-quest like always, but you can skip it like always |
| 00:56.44 | olafski | hm |
| 00:56.56 | olafski | I did all achievements for this event except the boss one already |
| 00:57.02 | olafski | so I can just go there and kill the boss 5 times |
| 00:57.07 | olafski | good good, ty |
| 00:59.10 | Lopeppeppy | kill the wabbit |
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| 01:09.11 | shifuimam | is there a native lua event for a right-click? |
| 01:19.24 | Kraps | why when i say that you need to move out of the orcs WW to NOT DIE, all i get in response is "............" |
| 01:19.32 | ScytheBlade1 | shifuimam: OnMouseDown? |
| 01:20.38 | Dagmar | Shirik: Actually I see now from the TV schedule that it apparently _was_ NASCAR you are hearing. They've got some Budweiser thing going on |
| 01:20.53 | Shirik | bleh |
| 01:21.10 | Dagmar | Might have to flog the cluster computing people on Monday |
| 01:21.22 | Dagmar | I just did a whole lotta repatching |
| 01:21.50 | Dagmar | THey messed something up on Thursday, the end result being about 1 degree temp increase per 12 hours in an already-maxed room |
| 01:26.13 | Dagmar | <--not amused that half the temp sensors in there turned out to be *disconnected* |
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| 01:32.14 | olafski | lol, warlock leading the SFK group turned on master looter, then got angry that 3 people left the group |
| 01:35.34 | ScytheBlade1 | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=562496 |
| 01:35.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Sweet bug, yo. |
| 01:35.45 | ScytheBlade1 | just filed that |
| 01:35.48 | shifuimam | hot shit everything works <# |
| 01:35.52 | shifuimam | <3 * |
| 01:36.09 | shifuimam | thank you so much Iriel....you are awesome. totally would not have figured all this out without you (or else it would have taken a montn) |
| 01:36.41 | ScytheBlade1 | shifuimam: depending how serious you are about addons... |
| 01:36.44 | ScytheBlade1 | ~wowprogramming |
| 01:36.44 | purl | rumour has it, wowprogramming is World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons - http://is.gd/7A3Jx - a book written by Cladhaire and Gazmik, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 01:36.55 | Iriel | I'm sure the collective channel wisdom would've gotten you there - I just happened to have time to spare (while getting my exploration achievements) |
| 01:37.12 | Lopeppeppy | Iriel kicks ass. *serious nod* |
| 01:37.28 | shifuimam | ScytheBlade1: well, only so much is relatable between RoM and WoW |
| 01:37.37 | Iriel | Yes, buy that book (the 2nd ed) -- (Biassed non-objective recommendation) |
| 01:37.40 | shifuimam | although it seems like really the only big differences are in the names of native events and functions |
| 01:37.52 | Iriel | Well, play WoW instead |
| 01:37.54 | Iriel | then you'll be set 8-) |
| 01:37.57 | shifuimam | hahaha |
| 01:38.00 | shifuimam | i love RoM :( |
| 01:38.29 | shifuimam | now i have to make the UI so users can actually decide which pieces of EQ to swap, but that should be cake compared to doing all this timing stuff |
| 01:46.49 | DJJeff | lmao.......... gearscore rating 1 star X_X |
| 01:46.58 | DJJeff | thats pretty lol |
| 01:47.16 | Dagmar | What? |
| 01:47.19 | Dagmar | It doesn't use stars |
| 01:47.27 | DJJeff | yes it does |
| 01:47.32 | haste | wat |
| 01:47.38 | DJJeff | in CC v4 |
| 01:47.41 | Dagmar | Since when? |
| 01:47.52 | DJJeff | would you like a screenshot sir? |
| 01:47.56 | Dagmar | Sure |
| 01:48.07 | Torhal | You two are talking about different things |
| 01:48.09 | DJJeff | (starts up jing) |
| 01:48.16 | Dagmar | That's what I'm figuring. |
| 01:48.17 | haste | Dagmar: think DJJeff is talking about in the curse client, not in-game or smoe shit |
| 01:48.21 | Torhal | GearScore doesn't use stare - Curse client does |
| 01:48.25 | Dagmar | I know GearScore shows a number, not stars |
| 01:48.26 | DJJeff | yes |
| 01:48.30 | DJJeff | CC using stars |
| 01:48.32 | Torhal | s/stare/stars/ |
| 01:48.33 | DJJeff | for ratings |
| 01:49.47 | DJJeff | http://www.flickr.com/photos/43551079@N06/4336450118/ |
| 01:50.11 | DJJeff | ooooooooopd |
| 01:50.14 | DJJeff | s |
| 01:50.15 | DJJeff | http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2757/4336450118_966a48e06c_b.jpg |
| 01:50.19 | DJJeff | thats better |
| 01:50.28 | Dagmar | That's a lot of people pissed off they didn't get to go on a 14-year-old hosted raid |
| 01:50.41 | Dagmar | Three stars I can see. One star, no. |
| 01:50.57 | Lopeppeppy | It's a social addon, a lot of people would rate it low. |
| 01:51.16 | DJJeff | my GearScore is almost 5000 |
| 01:51.24 | DJJeff | im pretty close |
| 01:51.37 | DJJeff | 4920 something |
| 01:51.38 | Dagmar | They gotta understand the kid hollering out for GS of 5400+ to do an Onyxia pug is just retarded |
| 01:51.46 | Dagmar | ...and they were retarded befor GS came out |
| 01:52.07 | haste | we always lol when people apply with GS in their posts |
| 01:53.08 | Dagmar | I publicly mock people asking for a GS higher than what you'd have if you'd already thoroughly pillaged that raid |
| 01:54.15 | DJJeff | my stupid realm doesn't raid enough so I cant improve my GS all that much |
| 01:54.31 | haste | isn't that what you have the raid browser for? |
| 01:54.32 | DJJeff | I just have the stupid gear you can buy with emblems of triumph |
| 01:54.47 | Dagmar | I was gonna say, with that number it looks like your'e pushing the limits of what badge gear can get you |
| 01:55.29 | DJJeff | its cause im not wasting my emblems on fail BoA gear |
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| 01:55.41 | DJJeff | playing on my ALTS 24/7 |
| 01:55.47 | shifuimam | if i have an array with nonconsecutive keys i should be able to just use i=i+1 while iterating through the array to get the total size, right? |
| 01:55.48 | Dagmar | 1. Calling it fail makes you look stupid. |
| 01:55.57 | ScytheBlade1 | shifuimam: no |
| 01:56.08 | shifuimam | why not? |
| 01:56.08 | olafski | how annoying.. if my pc crashes somehow it manages to mess up the connection to my irssi so bad that it hangs |
| 01:56.28 | ScytheBlade1 | shifuimam: because they're non consecutive |
| 01:56.29 | Dagmar | 2. Screw buying the PvE gear for you alts. It'll never be better than good blues. Just buy the PvP gear with straight shards and level your alts with that |
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| 01:56.41 | shifuimam | if i is not related to the array? |
| 01:57.04 | shifuimam | "i" being a blank variable that 1 is added to each iteration |
| 01:57.10 | ScytheBlade1 | shifuimam: how are you iterating through the array? |
| 01:57.12 | olafski | dang looks like I missed some interesting discussion |
| 01:57.20 | shifuimam | for i,v in ipairs(arr) do |
| 01:57.22 | Dagmar | I'm creeping up on 1200 shards for that |
| 01:57.27 | shifuimam | my var is called eqtot |
| 01:57.29 | shifuimam | that i am adding one to |
| 01:57.33 | ScytheBlade1 | shifuimam: ipairs() will break. pairs() will work. |
| 01:57.56 | DJJeff | GearScore doesn't show up in recount anymore........ I guess cause inside gearscore you can post gear in chat |
| 01:58.12 | DJJeff | would be nice if the GearScore database would only record your guild |
| 01:58.17 | DJJeff | or people in your group |
| 01:58.25 | DJJeff | so it doesn't grow large fast |
| 01:58.27 | olafski | would be nice if that addon would just be forbidden by blizzard |
| 01:58.31 | Dagmar | You didn't notice the button saying "Guild" then did you |
| 01:58.42 | DJJeff | I did notice that button |
| 01:58.52 | DJJeff | except the full DB is huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge |
| 01:58.56 | shifuimam | ScytheBlade1: i get an error with pairs and ipairs |
| 01:59.03 | ScytheBlade1 | shifuimam: being? |
| 01:59.05 | DJJeff | and there is no way to trune it in game |
| 01:59.10 | shifuimam | ScytheBlade1: http://pastebin.com/m2f9f3239 |
| 01:59.10 | Dagmar | DJJeff: Let's hope your gf has the same idea about what "huge" means |
| 01:59.12 | shifuimam | attempt to call a nil value |
| 01:59.23 | DJJeff | hahahahaha Dagmar |
| 01:59.39 | shifuimam | the general gist being that if the person has more eq to swap than open bag slots, they can't swap until they have enough bag slots free |
| 01:59.50 | ScytheBlade1 | shifuimam: ipairs() will start at index 1, then on to 2, until it reaches a nil value or a non-consecutive number |
| 02:00.02 | Dagmar | Tower of hanoi to the rescue |
| 02:00.09 | shifuimam | ipairs works if i take out the "eqtot = eqtot + 1" line |
| 02:00.11 | ScytheBlade1 | shifuimam: pairs() will iterate over all items in the table, numerically indexed or not |
| 02:00.35 | shifuimam | the table has only rows and both have a non-nil value |
| 02:00.54 | ZorbaTHut | I wonder how he's storing the DB |
| 02:01.00 | ZorbaTHut | it's pretty easy to compress stuff ingame |
| 02:01.10 | ScytheBlade1 | shifuimam: http://www.wowwiki.com/API_ipairs |
| 02:01.12 | ZorbaTHut | most people just don't realize what's necessary to do so |
| 02:01.24 | ScytheBlade1 | shifuimam: note the second half of that page, namely the part starting with "Note that ipairs() starts at index 1 and stops counting as soon as it reaches a nil value. Example: |
| 02:01.27 | ScytheBlade1 | " |
| 02:01.42 | shifuimam | i do understand that... |
| 02:01.53 | shifuimam | my table has two rows: [11] = true, [12] = true |
| 02:02.06 | shifuimam | i can iterate through the table wtih no errors IF i don't try to add 1 to a separate variable |
| 02:02.24 | ScytheBlade1 | paste your code? |
| 02:02.59 | shifuimam | sec |
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| 02:04.05 | shifuimam | http://pastebin.com/m51f82cea |
| 02:04.58 | ScytheBlade1 | You mean your Keepers table, right? |
| 02:05.20 | ScytheBlade1 | If so, [11]=true isn't what is being stored |
| 02:05.30 | ScytheBlade1 | [1]=11, [2]=12 |
| 02:05.31 | ScytheBlade1 | is |
| 02:05.38 | ScytheBlade1 | which is why ipairs() is working for you |
| 02:06.21 | shifuimam | the actual key is 11 |
| 02:06.30 | Arrowmaster | no that is the value |
| 02:06.33 | ScytheBlade1 | No |
| 02:06.35 | ScytheBlade1 | That is the value |
| 02:06.36 | ScytheBlade1 | The key is 1 |
| 02:06.54 | shifuimam | that's not how it's working for me..... |
| 02:07.05 | ScytheBlade1 | That IS how it is working, even if it doesn't seem like it |
| 02:07.06 | shifuimam | oh sorry. i'm thinking of the other array |
| 02:07.11 | shifuimam | ItemList |
| 02:07.13 | Torhal | local TABLE_DECLARATION = { [key] = value } |
| 02:08.48 | shifuimam | i don't understand why eqtot = eqtot + 1 causes errors. that has nothing to do with the content of the array |
| 02:08.53 | ScytheBlade1 | that said, I'm not seeing any reason why that would cause errors |
| 02:08.59 | shifuimam | yeah |
| 02:09.02 | ScytheBlade1 | What is the exact error you're getting? nil value? |
| 02:09.10 | shifuimam | it's not doing what it's supposed to. i have one bag slot free and i need two, but the script tries to run anyhow |
| 02:09.19 | shifuimam | even though i'm telling it not to do that if openslots < lengthofarray |
| 02:10.28 | shifuimam | ok NOW it's working......WTF |
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| 02:11.16 | shifuimam | nope, i lied. now it thinks that i never have enough free bag space |
| 02:11.19 | Torhal | shifuimam: BTW: Lua isn't C. When I first started using it I had to keep reminding myself of that. You don't need semicolons, and parentheses are only required when you need to disambiguate. |
| 02:11.44 | shifuimam | heh okay |
| 02:12.06 | Gagorian | Parenthesis are indeed sometimes good for readability, but semicolons are just plain useless :) |
| 02:12.36 | HotreGalen | lol |
| 02:13.07 | shifuimam | oh i think i see part of my problem |
| 02:13.11 | HotreGalen | how to piss people off. say that warriors arent DPS.. they are only meatshield tanks ;P like... elephants with armor ;) |
| 02:13.16 | HotreGalen | but hi everyone |
| 02:15.30 | Snigermis | I'm asking now as a total rookie.. reading around, it's kinda hard to figure out this lua programming. I'm trying to mod myself. but i keep running into problems. you guys' know any good tutorials? |
| 02:16.31 | Torhal | ~wowprogramming |
| 02:16.32 | purl | wowprogramming is, like, World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons - http://is.gd/7A3Jx - a book written by Cladhaire and Gazmik, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 02:16.36 | Torhal | ~pil |
| 02:16.36 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 02:16.43 | cbreak | I like the lua manual |
| 02:16.57 | cbreak | but I think you have to be a special kind of person to learn programming from manuals |
| 02:17.23 | Snigermis | cbreak no shit lol. some of the manuals out there are so useless ;P |
| 02:18.08 | Snigermis | i dont like i have to spend moeny on a book that i wont be able to make money on |
| 02:18.09 | cbreak | this one is great: http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html |
| 02:18.44 | cbreak | it's free :) |
| 02:19.18 | Snigermis | atm I'm trying to f.x. move the minimap. |
| 02:19.37 | cbreak | that's more a WoW problem, not a lua problem |
| 02:19.41 | Snigermis | and copying from the minimap.lua into my own file in my mod isnt working charms. |
| 02:19.42 | Snigermis | ;P |
| 02:19.44 | cbreak | look at the frame api |
| 02:20.07 | Snigermis | and btw. are there any special tools for not relogging 200 times to test 1 thing? ;P my authenticator is almost burning from all the relogging ;P |
| 02:20.24 | cbreak | you can /console reloadui |
| 02:20.29 | cbreak | unless you add files |
| 02:20.30 | Lopeppeppy | That works for many things. |
| 02:20.32 | Snigermis | will that reload from the files? |
| 02:20.37 | cbreak | yes. |
| 02:20.42 | cbreak | it will not reload the toc |
| 02:20.46 | cbreak | and it will not read new files |
| 02:20.54 | Snigermis | i knew it reloaded but didnt knew it took changes with it ;P |
| 02:20.54 | cbreak | but it will reload existing files |
| 02:21.01 | Snigermis | sweet ;P |
| 02:21.24 | Shirik | wow..... I knew this song was good with the lyrics, but the instrumental version is so win: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Nr8J9qsV-E |
| 02:21.30 | Snigermis | what song? ;P |
| 02:21.49 | Shirik | sonata arctica - my dream's but a drop of fuel for a nightmare |
| 02:22.20 | Shirik | I really have to get Unia |
| 02:22.30 | Snigermis | style of music? |
| 02:22.32 | cbreak | such a shame |
| 02:22.46 | cbreak | I wonder what they thought creating such a dead boring music video |
| 02:22.46 | shifuimam | ok, something is still pretty broken. i can swap eq back and forth several times, but then suddenly i can't anymore |
| 02:22.53 | Shirik | metal, arguably speed metal, Snigermis |
| 02:22.56 | shifuimam | the timer isn't even starting |
| 02:23.17 | Shirik | ~wiki Sonata Arctica |
| 02:23.26 | Shirik | ............. |
| 02:23.28 | Shirik | I hate you so much purl |
| 02:24.00 | cbreak | ~wiki shirik |
| 02:24.07 | cbreak | he doesn't even know you :) |
| 02:24.09 | Shirik | ~wiki User:Shirik |
| 02:24.16 | Shirik | so there |
| 02:24.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Moderate to high level of vandalism. |
| 02:24.50 | Lopeppeppy | hides the spray paint |
| 02:24.52 | Snigermis | ok guys |
| 02:25.14 | Snigermis | in the minimap.xml file you got the "parent" frame of the minimap |
| 02:25.35 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1: That's "wikidefcon" |
| 02:25.42 | Shirik | currently at defcon 3 |
| 02:25.47 | Snigermis | if i wanted to move that to opposite corner.. would'nt it be enough to implement <Frame name="MinimapCluster" frameStrata="BACKGROUND" enableMouse="true" parent="UIParent"> AND the rest of that content to my xml file? |
| 02:26.43 | Snigermis | just to change the anchor point.. |
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| 02:27.30 | shifuimam | okay something is delaying my code and not hiding the timer when it's supposed to. |
| 02:27.49 | DWSR | zomgsplosions |
| 02:28.25 | DJJeff | I cant unset read only on C:\Program Files\World of Warcraft\WTF |
| 02:28.39 | DJJeff | for some reason C:\Program Files\ cant unset read only |
| 02:28.58 | ScytheBlade1 | DJJeff: you don't have rights to do that. You need admin rights to adjust that |
| 02:29.07 | DJJeff | ohhhhhh |
| 02:29.13 | DJJeff | I need to login as Admin ? |
| 02:29.29 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm guessing you're running vista or win7 with UAC enabled? |
| 02:29.29 | DJJeff | is there a way to run a command as admin |
| 02:29.34 | DJJeff | nah |
| 02:29.38 | DJJeff | XP w/SP3 |
| 02:29.44 | DJJeff | XP Pro :) |
| 02:29.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Is your user an admin? |
| 02:29.52 | DJJeff | should be |
| 02:29.55 | DJJeff | (sigh) |
| 02:30.00 | Lopeppeppy | Make sure. |
| 02:30.08 | DJJeff | its not limited thats for sure |
| 02:30.10 | ScytheBlade1 | Then I've got no idea... sounds a bit buggy |
| 02:30.38 | Snigermis | I know I'm asking rookie dumb questions. but some guides to self illumination would be desired ;) |
| 02:31.17 | Lopeppeppy | RTFM! |
| 02:31.20 | Lopeppeppy | ~wowprogramming |
| 02:31.21 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, wowprogramming is World of Warcraft Programming: A Guide and Reference for Creating WoW Addons - http://is.gd/7A3Jx - a book written by Cladhaire and Gazmik, or the companion site and API reference available online for free at http://wowprogramming.com |
| 02:31.23 | Lopeppeppy | ~pil |
| 02:31.24 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 02:31.28 | Lopeppeppy | What else? |
| 02:33.10 | Snigermis | so i have to order the books before you can answer my question? |
| 02:33.13 | shifuimam | this is freakin bizarre. so i have this invisible frame that acts as my timer, and it's not hiding when it's supposed to sometimes |
| 02:33.55 | Lopeppeppy | You asked for guides to self-illumination, what did you expect to be handed? Chocolate bars? |
| 02:33.56 | shifuimam | Snigermis: i'd help you, but i do RoM dev, so i don't know how the WoW client behaves |
| 02:34.38 | shifuimam | RoM's got a ClearAllAnchors() function you pretty much have to run before moving the anchor point of any UI element |
| 02:35.14 | Snigermis | RoM? |
| 02:35.20 | Snigermis | aah |
| 02:35.21 | Snigermis | hmm |
| 02:35.38 | Snigermis | well that makes some sense in my head ;) |
| 02:35.51 | Iriel | it's frame:ClearAllPoints() in WoW |
| 02:36.08 | Snigermis | so i need to add lua before i can xml it |
| 02:36.11 | Iriel | you can't implement that stuff in your file, because that'd attempt to clone the existing minimap (which doesn't work well) |
| 02:36.18 | shifuimam | RoM is an MMO that uses lua...some of it is similar |
| 02:36.30 | Iriel | You probably dont need XML if you just want to move something |
| 02:36.44 | Snigermis | is it called RoM or what is it abbreviated of? ;P |
| 02:36.48 | Iriel | just make your addon a .lua file (referenced by the toc of course), clear points and then set point on the cluster |
| 02:36.49 | shifuimam | Runes of Magic |
| 02:37.53 | Snigermis | Iriel well Frame="MinimapCluster" -> <Anchors> -> Anch point Topright..... i want that to act as bottomleft instead |
| 02:39.32 | Snigermis | so this is where 2 monitors comes in handy |
| 02:39.44 | DWSR | Or having 2 computers. |
| 02:40.05 | shifuimam | or four monitors and six computers. |
| 02:40.15 | DWSR | overkill.\ |
| 02:40.22 | Snigermis | i got 3 pc's hmm should set something up on the server aswell ;P |
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| 02:43.21 | shifuimam | DWSR: there is no such thing as overkill when it comes to technology |
| 02:43.48 | Snigermis | overkill is 280 monitors when 279 was enough ;) |
| 02:43.52 | Lopeppeppy | Oooh, random topic intro. I need a domain name for a wiki-type site that would deal with sys admin things on the mac side, shell scripts, server config tools... "yet another sysadmin" is not available. :) |
| 02:44.54 | Snigermis | blizzards worldframe.xml has this <WorldFrame name="WorldFrame" movable="true" resizable="true" setAllPoints="true"> <-- moveable and resizeable true.. |
| 02:45.00 | kdtresh | macsypadmin? |
| 02:45.01 | Snigermis | minimapcluster dont. |
| 02:45.16 | kdtresh | i guess that would be more ipad-related |
| 02:45.24 | cbreak | apple-herder? |
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| 02:45.45 | Lopeppeppy | Scruffy looking apple herder? *laugh* |
| 02:45.56 | cbreak | fruits basket? |
| 02:46.03 | Lopeppeppy | I'm trying to get clever and my brain is for fail today. I got NO sleep last night, damn cats. |
| 02:46.20 | kdtresh | at least the cats are living, though |
| 02:46.33 | Snigermis | I must stay awake for about 12 more hours and I'm dead tired |
| 02:47.02 | kdtresh | Lopeppeppy: how is rosie doing? i haven't been on much of late |
| 02:47.24 | Lopeppeppy | kdtresh, she's a real cat now!! |
| 02:47.32 | kdtresh | meow! |
| 02:47.49 | Snigermis | so... /script WorldFrame:ClearAllPoints(); WorldFrame:SetPoint("TOPLEFT", 32, 0); WorldFrame:SetPoint("BOTTOMRIGHT", -32, 32); |
| 02:47.49 | kdtresh | gotta be good to get back to pseudo-normal |
| 02:47.55 | Lopeppeppy | Stitches out, she's wandering the house. Just a really short cone to keep her from gnawing on her scar for a little while longer. Eating from real bowls. And the *&^%$# kennel is GONE! |
| 02:48.03 | Lopeppeppy | Soooo happy. *dance dance dance* |
| 02:48.11 | kdtresh | good to hear! |
| 02:48.16 | Snigermis | is lbizz way to change that.. but would the setwidth and setpont work for all frames? |
| 02:49.21 | Snigermis | guess it did ;P |
| 02:52.41 | Shirik | omfg Dagmar |
| 02:52.43 | Shirik | they started up again |
| 02:52.46 | Shirik | make them shut up |
| 02:54.36 | kdtresh | would anyone (using auctioneer) be interested in playing around with my addon sideproject? |
| 02:57.05 | Lopeppeppy | She's awesome, trying to make me go to bed right now, kdtresh. She learned that from her sister, I think. |
| 02:57.13 | Snigermis | auctioneer has to much lag going on to use it... specially on my server ;P |
| 02:59.04 | kdtresh | Snigermis: lag in what? |
| 02:59.12 | Lopeppeppy | I didn't know that could vary from server to server. |
| 02:59.50 | Snigermis | anyone played with the minimap? |
| 03:00.02 | ZorbaTHut | argh got a tank cloak ninjaed from me |
| 03:00.04 | ZorbaTHut | by a hunter |
| 03:00.05 | ZorbaTHut | :( |
| 03:00.34 | Dagmar | I didn't know Auctioneer could have it's own lag |
| 03:00.45 | Dagmar | Actually, I'm pretty sure it can't. |
| 03:00.50 | Snigermis | you play on Stormscale? |
| 03:00.59 | Dagmar | ...unless your CPU is made of tinfoil and magic marker. |
| 03:01.08 | Snigermis | with a 7 sec delay in orgrimmar on anything ;) everything has it's own lag ;) |
| 03:01.23 | Lopeppeppy | Ah. So your server has issues, not the addon. |
| 03:01.30 | kdtresh | if you force load of scandata there shouldn't be any auc-associated lag anywhere |
| 03:01.33 | Dagmar | Stop buying wooden cablemodems |
| 03:01.35 | Shirik | I have issues |
| 03:01.41 | Snigermis | hehe so i gotta rely on small addons so i dont dissappear in the lag totally ;P |
| 03:01.47 | Lopeppeppy | knows. There there, Shirik. I'm there for you. |
| 03:02.13 | Dagmar | Auctioneer causes me if not zero extra lag, then enough of a lack of lag for it to be indistinguishable |
| 03:02.15 | ZorbaTHut | snigermis, chances are good that your addon lag has nothing whatsoever to do with the server lag |
| 03:02.24 | Dagmar | If seven seconds is as good as you can do, why the hell are you paying monthly fees |
| 03:02.25 | ZorbaTHut | "lag" is a term that's being used for like six different unrelated things right now. |
| 03:02.42 | Dagmar | Not even shaman can raid heal through that |
| 03:02.44 | Snigermis | i know. but last time i used auctioneer with the millions of other addons I'm addicted to it really messed everything up |
| 03:03.34 | Dagmar | Spend some money on an internet connection that doesn't involve attaching packets to the legs of spider monkeys |
| 03:04.17 | ZorbaTHut | dagmar, he just needs to pay the little orphan girls more so they run faster |
| 03:04.23 | ZorbaTHut | it's like you don't even understand how modern internet connections work |
| 03:04.31 | Snigermis | I'm using it as something is bottling up the connection between me and blizzards server so basically its Lag'ing and my 20mbit both way shouldnt have problems. when i can ping the server with 12ms.. so i guess when theres about 1 million people around me doing stuff its blizzards limitation of BW hogging thats accuring |
| 03:04.34 | Lopeppeppy | Zorba, it's server ferrets these days. |
| 03:04.46 | Dagmar | I'm in the US, on what was originally considered to be an Oceanic server, and I can do a fast scan dump of the entire auction house's contents in less than seven minutes |
| 03:04.55 | ZorbaTHut | lope, for high-end connections, yeah |
| 03:05.25 | Dagmar | I thnk you've over-exagerrated and now you're trying to backpedal |
| 03:05.26 | olafski | ping isn't directly related to bandwidth |
| 03:05.27 | Snigermis | Dagmar with our Ah's flowing as they do. last time i tried anything with scanning ah.. it took me 3 hours |
| 03:05.47 | olafski | your AH can't be THAT much more active than those on all other realms |
| 03:05.52 | Dagmar | Snigermis: Like I said, pay money for a connection that doesn't rely on the migrating habits of spider monkeys |
| 03:05.58 | kdtresh | i'm on a crappy dsl connection, and auctioneer adds zero lag to anything, except for when it's processing an auction house scan or search |
| 03:06.15 | Snigermis | olafski well guess 2mb a sec isnt my problem. and some could disguss that I'm abusing my connection so basically I'm making my own "lag" |
| 03:06.31 | Dagmar | On Mal'Ganis, which IS filled to bursting with assholes, if I try a fast scan dump during prime time, the server will boot me. If I do it at 1am, ten minutes, tops. |
| 03:06.46 | Snigermis | but when i ping the server for 12ms. i cant see that it's my limitations. when everything else runs normal. and when you get out of hotspots its faster than fast.. |
| 03:06.57 | Dagmar | Okay, now I'm sure you're full of shit. |
| 03:07.01 | kdtresh | i can't do a fast scan in ironforge or stormwind, ever |
| 03:07.03 | Snigermis | Dagmar ;P thats why i stopped.. |
| 03:07.06 | kdtresh | i have to do it in darnassus or exodar |
| 03:07.06 | Lopeppeppy | Tsk tsk. |
| 03:07.09 | Lopeppeppy | Anyway. |
| 03:07.14 | Lopeppeppy | goodnight, normal people. |
| 03:07.17 | kdtresh | but it works every time, in darnassus or exodar |
| 03:07.21 | kdtresh | night Lopeppeppy |
| 03:07.23 | Lopeppeppy | Goodnight, Iriel! |
| 03:07.27 | Dagmar | 12ms == you live in the colocation facility |
| 03:07.34 | kdtresh | i'm on cenarius, which is a very high population server |
| 03:08.44 | kdtresh | and obscenely skewed toward alliance, so i'd say it's almost a worst-case scenario for traffic/population |
| 03:09.11 | Snigermis | colocation? naa just picked a server close to me ;P and since denmark has some good hotspots(less routing) and running a linux server instead of a shitty router. reduces the ms alot ;P |
| 03:09.31 | Dagmar | I feel I should warn you. |
| 03:10.04 | Dagmar | I've been on the internet pretty much longer than porno, and I work in a datacenter that houses several thousand machines and has IPv6 backbone connectivity (because we can). |
| 03:10.15 | Snigermis | hehe |
| 03:10.17 | DWSR | lulz. |
| 03:10.21 | Dagmar | You don't get 12ms latency to anything in the US from Norway. |
| 03:10.29 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 03:10.33 | Dagmar | I'm not some gullilbe web newbie |
| 03:10.41 | Snigermis | EU servers are located in norway-paris.. and I live in denmark.. so |
| 03:10.46 | Snigermis | US my ass ;) |
| 03:11.12 | Dagmar | Dude in during the dot-com boom I worked for a company that brought China ~65ms "closer" to the US by laying new undersea cable. |
| 03:11.17 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=distance+from+norway+to+the+united+states |
| 03:11.31 | ScytheBlade1 | Note the "light in fiber" speeds. |
| 03:11.46 | kdtresh | i remember one of my indian TAs telling us in lab that the only way to communicate across the ocean was via satellite |
| 03:11.48 | olafski | ooh, ipv6 backbone connectivity :D |
| 03:11.53 | kdtresh | it was at that point that i stopped going to labs |
| 03:11.54 | Snigermis | hmm so what has my DK->norway has to do with US -> norway |
| 03:12.05 | kdtresh | that and the fact i couldn't understand a damn word that came out of her mouth |
| 03:12.21 | Dagmar | kdtresh: That would be old info I suspect. Satellite links suck ass because they add HUGE latency. ASk anyone on Hughes Net what their ping time to anywhere is. >2000 |
| 03:12.21 | Snigermis | hehe |
| 03:12.33 | DWSR | kdtresh: I know how you feel. |
| 03:12.40 | Dagmar | kdtresh: They'll probably be what our email eventually goes over tho, because who cares if an email takes 10 second or 2. |
| 03:12.53 | Snigermis | 2 sec.. gosh.. thats high ;) thats ol 11000modem ;P |
| 03:12.56 | DWSR | Dagmar: I doubt it. |
| 03:13.12 | Dagmar | DWSR: See also prioritization in IPv6 |
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| 03:15.20 | Dagmar | Snigermis: VOIP calls, on the other hand, will want the shortest possible route |
| 03:16.02 | DWSR | Dagmar: To be totally honest, global telecom is just a giant scam. |
| 03:16.23 | Dagmar | I can't really argue that |
| 03:16.28 | Dagmar | Too much shifty @#$@ going on |
| 03:16.31 | DWSR | mhm |
| 03:16.35 | DWSR | We need a world government. |
| 03:16.46 | DWSR | And we need some world asskickery of telecom giants. |
| 03:16.58 | Dagmar | Well, a few of them tried it |
| 03:17.03 | DWSR | With the later being an excuse for the former. |
| 03:17.07 | Snigermis | hmm gotta ask |
| 03:17.19 | olafski | uh oh, I must be lagging like hell.. if I ping the IP listed for my realm at wowwiki it just times out ;) |
| 03:17.22 | Snigermis | for wow rescources to watch textures. any tool for that? |
| 03:17.23 | Dagmar | The WorldCom/MCI merger just before 2000 was pretty sneaky |
| 03:17.41 | ScytheBlade1 | olafski: tcpping |
| 03:17.50 | Dagmar | hping werks |
| 03:18.20 | DWSR | God |
| 03:18.38 | DWSR | watching fat people on the television, sigh |
| 03:18.51 | Dagmar | tccping =~ probably less likely to getcha dirty looks ;)O |
| 03:19.08 | Dagmar | dwsr: Eat some ice cream. Pretend they can see you. |
| 03:19.14 | DWSR | lulz. |
| 03:19.15 | ScytheBlade1 | That's funny, last I checked it was the same as any other connection.. |
| 03:19.40 | Dagmar | ScytheBlade1 |
| 03:19.46 | Snigermis | hmm so its coded into textures the dam thing |
| 03:19.53 | Dagmar | ScytheBlade1: hping had some stuff in it for not-so-kosher purpose |
| 03:20.05 | Dagmar | er purposes |
| 03:21.18 | DWSR | omg |
| 03:21.25 | DWSR | Discovery channel has a Mythbusters marathon tomorrow. |
| 03:21.35 | DWSR | Nerd porn for 7 hours? Absolutely. |
| 03:21.38 | Snigermis | I'm sleeping lol |
| 03:22.47 | Snigermis | what is the main event tomorrow? ;P |
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| 03:24.01 | Cidwel | hiya! |
| 03:26.08 | Cairenn | hi |
| 03:26.30 | Dagmar | Metrosexual Festival should be live on all realms tomorrow |
| 03:26.36 | Dagmar | If it isn't already |
| 03:27.02 | DWSR | ?@? |
| 03:27.04 | DWSR | ?!?* |
| 03:27.18 | Cidwel | could someone help me? I'm trying to make a project using wow ui dev, but the addon doesn't run. Past times i created addons using another addons as the base, but now I can't create a simple hello world addon. I'll upload my toc & xml, I don't know if I forgot something |
| 03:27.47 | Cidwel | *wow ui designer |
| 03:27.57 | Dagmar | I could be wrong. I thought I heard someone saying it was already on their EU server |
| 03:28.21 | olafski | it is |
| 03:30.24 | Dagmar | I can only hope they didn't add anything to it this year |
| 03:30.43 | Cidwel | sorry dagmar |
| 03:30.53 | Cidwel | they changed some things |
| 03:31.24 | Cidwel | now the event is more insufferable than other years |
| 03:32.12 | Cidwel | you will see in the orgrimmar's / sw arc of love |
| 03:34.22 | Cidwel | btw, there's my problem if someone could help me >_> http://pastebin.com/m59db4050 <- here's the xml, and -> the toc file http://pastebin.com/m358ab53b |
| 03:34.36 | Dagmar | Hmm... Looks like they added a new quest involving some apothecaries |
| 03:34.42 | Cidwel | the addon simply doesn't run with wow |
| 03:35.10 | kd3 | check wow/Logs/FrameXML.log |
| 03:35.24 | kd3 | make sure the name of your .toc file is the same as the name of the folder it's in |
| 03:35.34 | kd3 | "PBGR/PBGR.toc" |
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| 03:36.37 | Cidwel | mmm could be this.. |
| 03:37.13 | Cidwel | .. many thanks kd3 -.- |
| 03:37.14 | Dagmar | Someones going to have to die tho if I don't get the dress this year |
| 03:37.22 | Dagmar | Last year wasn't funny. |
| 03:37.24 | Snigermis | love dress? |
| 03:37.32 | Shirik | Cidwel: I would advise trying not to use that tool, as a side note |
| 03:37.47 | Dagmar | The lovely black dress. The one that's rare drop from the love prizes or whatever, and is req'd for the achievement |
| 03:37.55 | Shirik | you will learn more and be able to accomplish more if you get to writing it yourself |
| 03:38.03 | Snigermis | aah got that ;P |
| 03:38.10 | Dagmar | I have _everything_ else from that holiday, and got the dress both years (three times the first year) before they started doing achievements |
| 03:38.10 | Shirik | but it's a steep learning curve I'll give you that |
| 03:38.15 | Cidwel | writting this by myself could be worse than adding some garbage lines :S |
| 03:38.15 | Snigermis | Shirik sherlock says no shit ;P |
| 03:38.20 | kd3 | I think I got the meta ~24 hours after the holiday started? |
| 03:38.34 | Shirik | Snigermis? |
| 03:38.41 | Dagmar | Clearly simply *having* the dress collecting dust in my bank for two years wasn't enough |
| 03:38.58 | Snigermis | well something that needs to be updated once pr week thanks to blizzards changes ;P thats not a good tool.. keep it simple.. keep it original.. code you'r self |
| 03:39.23 | Snigermis | Shirik no shit sherlock ;P |
| 03:39.31 | Snigermis | sherlock says no shit ;P |
| 03:39.56 | Dagmar | kd3: I seriously whored it out the first year because I wanted to give a picnic basket and a dress to my gf |
| 03:40.07 | Snigermis | hehe |
| 03:40.08 | Dagmar | Five toons, hourly runs, many days |
| 03:40.20 | Snigermis | i got it on the first couple of tries. a few years back ;P |
| 03:40.25 | Dagmar | hence a few of those show for me at 10-14-2008 |
| 03:40.34 | Dagmar | ...but they didn't seem to notice the goddamn dress |
| 03:40.46 | Dagmar | ...and one didn't drop for me last year |
| 03:41.07 | Snigermis | hehe |
| 03:41.10 | Torhal | Dagmar: Slave Pens is the same way - I had Quagmirran's Eye equipped when they started Achievements and got no credit |
| 03:41.19 | Dagmar | heh |
| 03:41.42 | Dagmar | Killing him doesn't generally take thirty hours over the span of days who |
| 03:41.50 | Dagmar | s/who/tho/; |
| 03:41.53 | Dagmar | That's why I'm pissy aobut this one |
| 03:43.46 | Dagmar | Maybe they'll have the thing on the "increasing returns" system of Northrend this year so if you just keep plugging at it the drop chance eventually reaches 100% |
| 03:43.53 | Dagmar | crosses his fingers |
| 03:44.13 | DWSR | They actually have a system like that? |
| 03:44.21 | Dagmar | You didn't know that about Northrend? |
| 03:44.25 | DWSR | nope |
| 03:44.50 | Dagmar | More than a few of the random drop items had a greater chance to drop every time they didn't, thereby eliminating that nasty long tail where you kill 100 kobolds before a fucking candle drops. |
| 03:45.07 | DWSR | Quests only |
| 03:45.10 | DWSR | ? |
| 03:45.15 | Dagmar | Yes, quest items only |
| 03:45.22 | DWSR | ah k |
| 03:45.36 | Legorol | Dagmar: anecdotal, or you have evidence? |
| 03:45.50 | Dagmar | Blizzcast talking |
| 03:45.56 | Legorol | cool |
| 03:45.58 | Dagmar | iirc |
| 03:46.04 | Legorol | good enuff for me |
| 03:46.45 | Snigermis | hmm |
| 03:46.51 | Snigermis | simple question maybe |
| 03:46.58 | shifuimam | lol thre are kobolds in wow too? |
| 03:47.01 | Snigermis | calculations inside lua how do they apply |
| 03:47.10 | Dagmar | There are kobolds _everywhere_ |
| 03:47.22 | shifuimam | they're in at least four zones in RoM |
| 03:47.22 | Snigermis | its kobold infested ;P |
| 03:47.47 | Dagmar | It's not a renaissance RPG without kobolds of some sort |
| 03:47.56 | shifuimam | my damn client has been fatally crashing way too much lately. i hope my addons aren't breaking it :( |
| 03:48.09 | shifuimam | where did kobolds come from? |
| 03:48.14 | shifuimam | did WoW invent them? |
| 03:48.19 | DWSR | This has changed and there is now no reachable debuff limit, and affliction DPS is now competitive in a raid environment. <-- What about a raid of 40 affliction warlocks? |
| 03:48.22 | Dagmar | D&D did, *possibly* |
| 03:48.22 | Snigermis | dont think so |
| 03:48.28 | shifuimam | huh |
| 03:48.45 | Snigermis | The kobold is a sprite of German folklore. Although usually invisible, a kobold can materialise in the form of an animal, fire, a human being, and ... |
| 03:48.49 | Dagmar | I remember them being in Dungeons and Dragons, and they were basically sword-fodder even then |
| 03:48.57 | Snigermis | Kobold - Kobolds are a fictional species featured In the Dungeons & Dragons roleplaying game. Aggressive, xenophobic, yet industrious small humanoid ... |
| 03:48.58 | DWSR | Dagmar: Yeah, they were. |
| 03:49.10 | shifuimam | in RoM they're funny looking little dudes who smile and make high-pitched noises when you kill them |
| 03:49.12 | shifuimam | they're pretty amusing |
| 03:49.41 | Snigermis | according to souces... kobolds = small annoying germans |
| 03:49.43 | DWSR | Anyone know what the actual debuff limit is? |
| 03:49.46 | Dagmar | heheh |
| 03:49.54 | Snigermis | it is what you make it ;P |
| 03:50.11 | Snigermis | but visible i think it's 16 or 32 |
| 03:50.21 | Dagmar | dwsr: No idea but when I'm working with pitbull I think of it as "Is it really going to matter if I have more than 12 on me?" |
| 03:50.23 | DWSR | More than that. |
| 03:50.32 | DWSR | Dagmar: I'm wondering purely from a technical standpoint. |
| 03:50.33 | DWSR | i.e. |
| 03:50.38 | Snigermis | dagmar. when you reach 12 you usually die anyway ;P |
| 03:50.39 | DWSR | Could 40 affliction warlocks reach it. |
| 03:50.54 | Snigermis | lol |
| 03:50.54 | foxlit | Nobody cares about *40* affliction warlocks. |
| 03:51.04 | DWSR | foxlit: That could be an all rediculous army. |
| 03:51.10 | Snigermis | 40 afflick in AV... just dot EVERYTHING.. DOTHELL |
| 03:51.13 | Dagmar | Snigermis : That being the point. It rather quickly ceases to matter (IMHO) once it's past proably 8 or 9 |
| 03:51.16 | Snigermis | MORE DOTS MORE DOTS ;P |
| 03:51.18 | foxlit | even 25 is a stretch |
| 03:51.36 | DWSR | 40 afflocks would be hilarious, imo. |
| 03:51.37 | Snigermis | dagmar. count friendly debuffs also.. like dungeontimer. BL timer. res sickness. |
| 03:51.45 | DWSR | Just run around Corruption the shit out of everything. |
| 03:51.53 | shifuimam | worthless twatwaffles are ignoring my zone chat |
| 03:52.14 | DWSR | Chain casting UA. |
| 03:52.18 | DWSR | LULZ. |
| 03:52.19 | Snigermis | hmm 40 afflocks in WG against 140 on the other side... tenacy on 10 = Shitload of dmg ;P |
| 03:52.20 | DWSR | Speaking of UA. |
| 03:52.31 | DWSR | Yeah, tenacity is insane. |
| 03:52.43 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, last I heard the buff/debuff display limit was 40, shared among buffs and debuffs, but there was not internal limit |
| 03:52.43 | Dagmar | Snigermis: They'd probably only need one 'lock with tenacity maxed |
| 03:52.47 | ZorbaTHut | *no internal limit |
| 03:52.52 | Snigermis | lol on our server allies start with instant siege. and tencay on around 20+ |
| 03:52.53 | DWSR | Anyone seen a priest mass dispel and hit 4 instances of UA? |
| 03:52.59 | Dagmar | I watched one running around with 50k HP hitting like a raid boss. |
| 03:53.15 | Snigermis | 50k? |
| 03:53.18 | Dagmar | One case and he killed the giant tank in one tick, and everyone inside died the second |
| 03:53.22 | Snigermis | should have seen the evil lock last night |
| 03:53.30 | Dagmar | s/case/cast/; |
| 03:53.38 | Snigermis | 150k hp. and 10k pr dot |
| 03:53.59 | Snigermis | ok anyone know how to calculate with varables in lua? |
| 03:54.11 | DWSR | vara = varb + varc; |
| 03:54.19 | Dagmar | Silly crap like that is why people complained it was far overpowered. There's no "strategy" you can employ against someone who can one-shot your entire party at 35 yards, short of just dropping a small moon on their heads. |
| 03:54.24 | Snigermis | you have to have the ;? |
| 03:54.28 | ScytheBlade1 | no |
| 03:54.30 | shifuimam | where IS everyone tonight? |
| 03:54.34 | ScytheBlade1 | semicolon is not required period |
| 03:54.34 | DWSR | Snigermis: No. |
| 03:54.36 | ZorbaTHut | dagmar, stunlock them :D |
| 03:54.39 | Snigermis | ok |
| 03:54.48 | DWSR | Dagmar: Except it's not overpowered because it doesn't adjust CC timers. |
| 03:54.55 | DWSR | In fact, Tenacity is Underpowered. |
| 03:54.59 | Snigermis | semicolon only used for multicommands on 1 line? |
| 03:55.04 | ScytheBlade1 | nope |
| 03:55.05 | DWSR | Snigermis: mhm |
| 03:55.06 | Snigermis | tenacy is UP? |
| 03:55.09 | ScytheBlade1 | you can have multicommands on one line |
| 03:55.17 | Snigermis | lol tenacy is redicilous project. |
| 03:55.23 | Dagmar | dwsr: Maybe *now* |
| 03:55.32 | DWSR | Dagmar: It was before too. |
| 03:55.35 | Snigermis | if i have this command... |
| 03:55.36 | Snigermis | WorldFrame:SetWidth(980) |
| 03:55.36 | Dagmar | No, it wasn't. |
| 03:55.41 | shifuimam | Snigermis: ridiculous* |
| 03:55.42 | DWSR | Yes it was. |
| 03:55.45 | Snigermis | how can i return that in another script just to be dumb? |
| 03:55.48 | Dagmar | Being able to wipe out eight people in one cast is ludicrously overpowered |
| 03:55.57 | shifuimam | Snigermis: try GetWidth()? |
| 03:56.13 | DWSR | Dagmar: If you have 30 stacks of Tenacity and you decide to go AoE people to death, actually, yes. |
| 03:56.23 | Snigermis | shifuimam yes... you are forced to gang up on a person tenacy on 1... so if they have 10 tenacy. you need about 10 people to kill him |
| 03:56.28 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 03:56.35 | shifuimam | Snigermis: i was correcting your spelling, noob |
| 03:56.53 | Snigermis | but why would tenacy even be there.. if alliances are lacking on the server. its not the hordes problem... they can just move out ;P |
| 03:57.00 | shifuimam | wtf is Tenacity anyhow? |
| 03:57.01 | Snigermis | oh lol sorry... |
| 03:57.19 | Snigermis | tenacy |
| 03:57.25 | DWSR | no... |
| 03:57.27 | DWSR | Tenacity. |
| 03:57.27 | Snigermis | now I'm confused. what is it called? ;P |
| 03:57.30 | Dagmar | It's the consolation buff you get for playing WG in the mniddle of the night when no one else on your faction shows up |
| 03:57.32 | DWSR | Tenacity. |
| 03:57.41 | Snigermis | tenacity... isnt that another word for stamina. |
| 03:57.42 | Dagmar | ...which turns you into a raid boss in extreme cases |
| 03:58.13 | Snigermis | but if they are soo few.. why buff them... keep it simple... they suck ... move off server ;P |
| 03:58.19 | Nechckn | Like when 2 people show up against a whole crew on the other... |
| 03:58.27 | Dagmar | So five guys could take on forty and win |
| 03:58.29 | Dagmar | Regularly |
| 03:58.29 | DWSR | Dagmar: Tenacity has and will always be underpowered. |
| 03:58.40 | DWSR | Until it starts to adjust CC timers. |
| 03:58.41 | Snigermis | but thats not balanced AT ALL |
| 03:58.49 | shifuimam | so Tenacity gives you what stat? |
| 03:58.49 | DWSR | Yes it is. |
| 03:59.03 | Dagmar | shifuiman: All of them |
| 03:59.09 | Snigermis | % to dmg % to health mana regen % to hp |
| 03:59.14 | DWSR | shifuimam: Tenacity gives you increased health, damage done, healing done, and regen, I believe. |
| 03:59.17 | ZorbaTHut | tenacity is tricky because they're trying to balance by just increasing your hp and damage/healing done |
| 03:59.20 | shifuimam | ahaha |
| 03:59.25 | Snigermis | 10 times tenacy gives you 150% damage |
| 03:59.33 | ZorbaTHut | but shockingly it turns out that doesn't work at all, that's not even remotely a good method of balancing |
| 03:59.44 | Nechckn | shifuimam you should move to WoW! Think of all the cool AddOns you could make and the multitudes of users who would appreciate them. |
| 03:59.51 | Snigermis | ZorbaTHut hit it on the head of the nail there |
| 03:59.51 | ZorbaTHut | although, in fairness, it's very hard to figure out what a good method of balancing *is* |
| 03:59.55 | shifuimam | yeah, that'd be stamina in RoM. stamina items cost like 10-50x more than other itmes |
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| 04:00.04 | Dagmar | More than once we lost WG 25-30 to <7 because nothing could make a dent in them |
| 04:00.13 | shifuimam | Nechckn: i'm not paying a monthly fee plus exorbitant expansion costs to play WoW |
| 04:00.16 | shifuimam | i like my f2p :P |
| 04:00.21 | Dagmar | ...and I do mean 25+ people pounding the crap out of five people and still losing |
| 04:00.34 | Snigermis | lol usually we got 140k queues at wg at all times.. so allies have won it once in 3 months ;P |
| 04:00.52 | Snigermis | RoM = link? |
| 04:00.56 | NightHawkTheSane | shifuimam: i like paying the money up front for ALL the game, and not being stuck with half of a free game. |
| 04:01.04 | Nechckn | cough <you get what you pay for> cough |
| 04:01.08 | Nechckn | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:01.14 | shifuimam | NightHawkTheSane: you'd be surprised. 99% of RoM can be played (and enjoyed) without spending cash |
| 04:01.30 | Dagmar | I'm not playing ROM because if I want to do WoW quests, I'd rather do the original ones, in WoW. |
| 04:01.32 | shifuimam | i don't mind paying *up front*, but $15/month != up front |
| 04:01.33 | Dagmar | *ahem* |
| 04:01.33 | NightHawkTheSane | no, i wouldn't be surprised. |
| 04:01.38 | NightHawkTheSane | i -did- play RoM |
| 04:01.58 | shifuimam | well, i have played WoW a little on my bf's account and i still prefer RoM. sorry |
| 04:01.59 | Snigermis | Nechckn not really... 99% of blizzards wow servers are overpopulated and laggy and spam.. omfg its annoying |
| 04:02.09 | ZorbaTHut | personally I still like the Puzzle Pirates/Eve Online solution |
| 04:02.28 | ZorbaTHut | rig things so you can pay for playtime with ingame money, via an intermediate that assures the developer still gets $$$ for the played time |
| 04:02.29 | Corrodias | all one server? |
| 04:02.33 | Dagmar | Stop lurking in major cities fishing for netsex |
| 04:02.34 | Corrodias | oh |
| 04:02.47 | Nechckn | Um... I play one 6 different servers 8 server/faction combos and never have issues except maybe 1-2 times per year. |
| 04:02.50 | ScytheBlade1 | http://gizmodo.com/5463652/comcast-rebrands-itself-as-xfinity-seriously-thats-thats-all-you-got |
| 04:02.55 | ZorbaTHut | (PLEXes in the case of Eve, Doubloons in the case of PP, though PP doesn't have a concept of "playtime") |
| 04:03.02 | Snigermis | hehe |
| 04:03.04 | Dagmar | wait... wat? |
| 04:03.15 | Snigermis | eve and plexes was genious |
| 04:03.23 | Snigermis | isk sellers got shut down almost |
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| 04:04.15 | Snigermis | RoM looks too Guildwars like.. to choppy interaction |
| 04:04.18 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, it's a fantastic idea from many different directions |
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| 04:04.44 | Snigermis | well if you could sell gamecards for wow gold aswell... bye bye goldsellers lol |
| 04:05.05 | Dagmar | ScytheBlade1: Holy CRAP. Comcast scored lower than Sprint? |
| 04:05.11 | NightHawkTheSane | Anyone happen to know why Win7 bluescreens when I have a (HFS+) drive shared out directly? |
| 04:05.14 | shifuimam | Snigermis: choppy? |
| 04:05.31 | ZorbaTHut | I didn't even know you could mount HFS+ in Win7 |
| 04:05.38 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: bootcamp |
| 04:05.41 | Snigermis | well you know 99.90999999999999% of games have the issue with clipping and ICeskating movement |
| 04:05.44 | ZorbaTHut | ah, I see |
| 04:05.55 | shifuimam | NightHawkTheSane: does boot camp include an HFS+ driver for Windows? |
| 04:06.17 | shifuimam | Snigermis: there are some clipping issues if you customize your char to too many extremes |
| 04:06.18 | Snigermis | or 1 set of animations for everything... and short and assymentric ones aswell. so they all look like crazy dream ;P |
| 04:06.19 | shifuimam | e.g. huge hips and stuff |
| 04:06.22 | NightHawkTheSane | .... no, it just magically lets windows see the hfs drives through the sheer willpower of steve jobs. |
| 04:06.25 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: I wasn't aware it could read HFS+ at all |
| 04:06.29 | shifuimam | NightHawkTheSane: ...... |
| 04:06.55 | Dagmar | ...but if it's bluescreening from something in CIFS, the answer is "it's probably exploitable" |
| 04:07.05 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: as i said, its boot camp. |
| 04:07.10 | Snigermis | please say you can scroll out |
| 04:07.30 | Snigermis | zoom out ;P |
| 04:07.45 | Snigermis | it looks like a beta for wow ;P |
| 04:08.00 | ZorbaTHut | nighthawk, for a while, it couldn't read HFS+ drives |
| 04:08.08 | ZorbaTHut | it just had its own drive and couldn't touch the osx drive |
| 04:08.11 | Dagmar | Snigermis: A bit less than that, actually. THey stole the GReen Hills of Stranglethorn quest, for one |
| 04:08.20 | Snigermis | lol seriously? |
| 04:08.27 | Dagmar | Yes. |
| 04:08.33 | ZorbaTHut | why would anyone steal that quest |
| 04:08.39 | ZorbaTHut | except as a parody |
| 04:08.45 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: boot camp 3, which shipped with snow leopard, last year, included hfs+ drivers. |
| 04:08.51 | NightHawkTheSane | this is not the issue, however. |
| 04:08.54 | Dagmar | The text is differemt, but all the pagenos/chapters are the same. Sad. |
| 04:09.05 | NightHawkTheSane | without sharing enabled, everything is fine |
| 04:09.15 | ZorbaTHut | I would totally steal that quest, but it would be included with another quest that was "hey, go kill this guy, he's been sneaking around the camp" |
| 04:09.19 | ZorbaTHut | and that guy would drop *every single page* |
| 04:09.29 | ZorbaTHut | because fuck that quest. |
| 04:11.01 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 04:12.09 | ZorbaTHut | I'm actually really giggling about this idea now. it'd be an entire book, Blue Valleys of Tanglevine. 447 pages and you must find each one individually. except they're all looted from a single guy. |
| 04:12.19 | DWSR | lol |
| 04:12.24 | ZorbaTHut | (obviously you'd want to have an inventory system that supported this without horror :) ) |
| 04:12.29 | Iriel | Are they Unique(1) too? |
| 04:12.38 | Iriel | and soulbound? |
| 04:12.40 | Dagmar | Only thing I can figure is to look for newer HFS+ drievrs |
| 04:12.44 | ZorbaTHut | I'd definitely soulbind them |
| 04:12.57 | Dagmar | ...or get ready to reformat as NTFS/VFAT. |
| 04:13.18 | NightHawkTheSane | why the fuck would i reformat? |
| 04:13.22 | Dagmar | It's got to be something to do with the file locking but there's not a whole lot it really lets you dork with |
| 04:13.51 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: Because the problem is rather clearly Win7 not actually being able to access those filesystems without freaking out |
| 04:14.47 | shifuimam | you could try MacDrive or whatever the hell it's called. it's a paid app but it will read HFS+ |
| 04:14.52 | Snigermis | in lua coding whats this .. i keep seeing everywhere |
| 04:14.56 | NightHawkTheSane | thats not an excuse to format into a shitty filesystem. win7 is not exactly my primary os :P |
| 04:14.56 | Dagmar | it can share out VFAT/NTFS(both old and new) without panicking |
| 04:14.58 | shifuimam | your other option would be to use Linux in a VM or something as a go-between |
| 04:15.03 | shifuimam | Snigermis: .. concatenates strings |
| 04:15.12 | Snigermis | getglobal(slider .. "Low"):SetText("1"); |
| 04:15.13 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: Frankly, I'd say fuckit and use samba |
| 04:15.18 | shifuimam | e.g. "This ".." that" would be "This that" |
| 04:15.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: isn't windows sharing already that? |
| 04:15.32 | Snigermis | think mIRC coding ;P |
| 04:15.44 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: No, it's much less prone to attacks of the stupid |
| 04:15.49 | Dagmar | er "teh stupids" |
| 04:16.10 | NightHawkTheSane | which is? windows sharing or smb? |
| 04:16.14 | Snigermis | hmm how can i editbox output an variable. |
| 04:16.19 | Snigermis | to chat or something |
| 04:16.23 | Dagmar | Like how a spike in CPU load on a workstation can cause it to QoS down windows filesharing transfers to "prostate problem trickle" speeds |
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| 04:16.41 | shifuimam | Snigermis: print(yourvariable) |
| 04:16.45 | Dagmar | Samba seems not bothered by such things. |
| 04:16.56 | Snigermis | hmm so /script print(myvariable) |
| 04:17.13 | shifuimam | Snigermis: i would think so, yes. but don't quote me on it. |
| 04:17.16 | Snigermis | yes it is hmm |
| 04:18.36 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: so have a convenient link handy for how i could do that in win7? :P |
| 04:19.05 | Snigermis | WorldFrame:SetWidth(980); <--- to a print function... /script print(WorldFrame:SetWidth()) /script print(WorldFrame:Width()) doesnt work |
| 04:19.07 | cralor | Is there a #@lib-strip@ |
| 04:19.19 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: Hell no. Sane people would just look for a different HFS+ driver |
| 04:19.23 | Snigermis | i just want to know how to return the variable so i can use it ;P |
| 04:19.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: there ARE no other ones. |
| 04:19.55 | shifuimam | Snigermis: did you try GetWidth()? |
| 04:20.04 | NightHawkTheSane | and i'm not convinced its the HFS+ driver |
| 04:20.06 | Snigermis | its getting really late ;P |
| 04:20.09 | Snigermis | let me try... |
| 04:20.15 | shifuimam | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:20.15 | Snigermis | are there a list for all these. |
| 04:20.20 | NightHawkTheSane | because, as i said, the driver functions properly. i can access the drive just fine |
| 04:20.23 | shifuimam | probably on Curse's wiki for WoW |
| 04:20.41 | cralor | Anyone know if #@lib-strip@ is valid? |
| 04:20.46 | NightHawkTheSane | i just get dumped to a bluescreen anywhere from 10s to a minute or two after share the drive. |
| 04:20.58 | airtonix | NightHawkTheSane, doesn't mean it provides all the features of the specification |
| 04:21.02 | shifuimam | have you checked the drive for corrupt sectors or other errors? |
| 04:21.10 | airtonix | NightHawkTheSane, vis ntfs-3g |
| 04:21.13 | shifuimam | a drive that's shitting out can cause any OS to go bonkers |
| 04:21.16 | Snigermis | thanks... that worked ;P |
| 04:21.20 | NightHawkTheSane | the drive is fine |
| 04:21.22 | shifuimam | Snigermis: no problem |
| 04:21.25 | Snigermis | functions.. list.. exists? |
| 04:21.34 | Snigermis | set and get and that ;P |
| 04:21.50 | shifuimam | Snigermis: http://www.wowwiki.com/Portal:Interface_customization |
| 04:21.54 | Nechckn | http://Wowprogramming.com , Snigermis |
| 04:22.11 | Kraps | 10/10, would read again http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?sid=1&topicId=12304114027 |
| 04:22.12 | Nechckn | wowwiki has most, but WP is a bit more complete |
| 04:22.16 | Snigermis | Nechckn i wont buy the book because it woont help me in the next 10 hours ;P |
| 04:22.29 | Nechckn | So... don't buy the book, use the site. |
| 04:22.32 | shifuimam | Snigermis: that site has a complete API listing |
| 04:22.35 | airtonix | NightHawkTheSane, who provides the driver for your filesystem btw ? |
| 04:22.36 | shifuimam | Snigermis: http://wowprogramming.com/docs |
| 04:22.39 | Nechckn | Although you *should* |
| 04:22.50 | Cidwel | is there a way to disable the breakline in multiboxes? |
| 04:23.50 | Wobin | http://www.jerrylewiscomedy.com/announcer.htm |
| 04:24.07 | Iriel | The contents of the site IS the reference section from the book |
| 04:24.11 | cralor | Can anyone tell me if #@lib-strip@ is a valid ToC keyword? |
| 04:24.17 | Iriel | (Though the book has a bunch of other stuff) |
| 04:24.27 | Snigermis | i dont get it... the screen is 768.00007117861 px hight.. didnt know i had 0.00007117861 px extra ;P |
| 04:24.37 | Wobin | bonus! |
| 04:24.42 | Snigermis | hehe |
| 04:24.52 | NightHawkTheSane | airtonix: for the third time, its boot camp's drivers. |
| 04:25.26 | airtonix | NightHawkTheSane, lol. |
| 04:25.28 | shifuimam | what is the kernel dump after windows reboots? |
| 04:25.31 | shifuimam | or, what is the error on the BSOD |
| 04:25.50 | Arrowmaster | cralor: valid how? |
| 04:25.57 | cralor | It will do something :) |
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| 04:26.05 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 04:26.12 | cralor | Opposite of: #@no-lib-strip@ |
| 04:26.16 | cralor | Hrm... |
| 04:26.28 | cralor | How can I show "RequiredDeps" when needed? |
| 04:26.37 | Arrowmaster | show ingame? |
| 04:26.37 | airtonix | Snigermis, wow doesn't report pixles in absolute format... |
| 04:26.47 | cralor | Huh? |
| 04:27.15 | Arrowmaster | Snigermis: wow is full of rounding errors in the api for screen size and frame location |
| 04:27.46 | Iriel | Rounding ARTIFACTS |
| 04:27.49 | Iriel | they're not really ERRORS |
| 04:27.53 | Arrowmaster | cralor: what do you mean when needed? |
| 04:28.24 | cralor | Oh wait nvm :D I was going to say when they downlaod no lib version |
| 04:28.32 | Snigermis | hmm seems to work ;P |
| 04:28.50 | Arrowmaster | cralor: you dont, you put all libraries with standalone versions into optdeps |
| 04:28.58 | cralor | oh ok |
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| 04:29.42 | Snigermis | lol |
| 04:29.57 | Snigermis | i love variables.. but sometimes.. 4 lines down to 1 line is more efficient ;P |
| 04:32.37 | Snigermis | m:SetWidth(mmx) dont work it seems |
| 04:32.55 | Snigermis | local mmx = (GetScreenwidth() - WorldFrame:Getwidth()) - 1 |
| 04:32.57 | Snigermis | btw ;P |
| 04:33.29 | Arrowmaster | you arent taking scale into account |
| 04:33.52 | Snigermis | well at scale 1 |
| 04:33.59 | Snigermis | it ignores the whole setup now |
| 04:34.18 | Arrowmaster | what does each value equal? |
| 04:35.08 | Snigermis | screen 768 WF getwidth 650 |
| 04:35.22 | Snigermis | =118 |
| 04:36.25 | Snigermis | m is a variable for Minimap works all other places in that script ;P |
| 04:36.45 | Snigermis | so i know its not that... and print(GetScreenHeight() - WorldFrame:GetHeight()) returns 118 |
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| 04:38.31 | Arrowmaster | ive got no idea, other than maybe its anchored in position so that you cant change the size but from what i remember it shouldnt be |
| 04:40.40 | Snigermis | hmm |
| 04:40.53 | Snigermis | i quote the local mmx = GetScreenwidth() - WorldFrame:Getwidth() - 1 line |
| 04:40.58 | Snigermis | and now it works again |
| 04:42.03 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-qq *!*@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik *!~mpdelbuon@*] by Shirik |
| 04:42.17 | DWSR | Is Howl of Terror affected by Glyph of Fear? |
| 04:43.47 | Snigermis | local mmx = (((GetScreenWidth() - WorldFrame:GetWidth()) / 2) - 1 ) |
| 04:43.52 | Snigermis | PARENTECIS ftw ;P |
| 04:44.39 | Shirik | !reload |
| 04:44.39 | EDI | Cannot reload AI. Using fail safes. ai.lua:277: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 275) near '"^![a-zA-Z]"' |
| 04:45.01 | Shirik | !reload |
| 04:45.02 | EDI | AI routines & configuration reloaded |
| 04:45.46 | shifuimam | ....what just happened? |
| 04:45.57 | Torhal | shifuimam: The Universe imploded. |
| 04:46.07 | DWSR | :D |
| 04:46.34 | Snigermis | hmm UI comming along nicely |
| 04:46.35 | Snigermis | ;P |
| 04:46.37 | Torhal | Or, rather, Shirik added new instructions to the Bot-Which-Will-Become-SkyNet |
| 04:46.50 | Iriel | And got them wrong |
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| 04:46.59 | Shirik | I missed a comma like I always do |
| 04:47.09 | Iriel | May I suggest having reload fire up a dummy copy to make sure it compiles |
| 04:47.14 | Iriel | then only actually reload when it does |
| 04:47.18 | Shirik | well that's what it does |
| 04:47.20 | Snigermis | ;) |
| 04:47.21 | Shirik | and then it yells at me |
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| 04:48.11 | Shirik | "fail safe" is more accurately "last known good configuration" |
| 04:48.42 | Iriel | ah, ok 8-) |
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| 04:48.57 | Nechckn | Shirik Quit playing Aion and come entertain me in HKO!! |
| 04:49.03 | Shirik | no ty |
| 04:50.05 | Nechckn | Come on, you know you want to. |
| 04:50.14 | Shirik | I'm pretty sure I don't |
| 04:50.20 | Nechckn | Do to |
| 04:50.58 | Nechckn | Darn AI, you write 'em and then they start making decisions on their own... |
| 04:51.55 | Nechckn | unplugs Shirikbot. |
| 04:51.57 | Nechckn | There. |
| 04:52.21 | cralor | Why is my working copy "out of date"? |
| 04:52.33 | Shirik | Anyone know MIRC script? I'm having trouble getting something to respond, no errors. |
| 04:52.41 | Snigermis | what you need? |
| 04:53.08 | DWSR | Shirik: Yes |
| 04:53.15 | Dagmar | A big dose of penicillin |
| 04:53.20 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/132592 |
| 04:53.21 | Shirik | fix ty |
| 04:54.04 | Arrowmaster | you can use regex in that? |
| 04:54.04 | DWSR | var %lastpingtime = 0? |
| 04:54.06 | DWSR | yes |
| 04:54.14 | DWSR | That's what $ in front of the event level is. |
| 04:54.16 | Shirik | I have to say var? |
| 04:54.24 | DWSR | believe so |
| 04:54.37 | Shirik | btw do I have to restart mirc to "activate" the script? |
| 04:54.40 | Arrowmaster | yeah i think you need a var too |
| 04:54.46 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 04:55.09 | Snigermis | nop |
| 04:55.26 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: ping |
| 04:55.28 | Shirik | adding var doesn't seem to have done anything :/ |
| 04:55.35 | Shirik | wait a sec |
| 04:55.38 | Shirik | would I see the output? |
| 04:55.43 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 04:55.51 | Adys | Does anyone know if the headless horseman mount goes to 310% if you have a protodrake since 3.3? |
| 04:55.59 | Snigermis | ye |
| 04:56.04 | Shirik | I only need it in front of %lastpingtime = 0 right? |
| 04:56.05 | Shirik | not the other one |
| 04:56.09 | Snigermis | it upgrades.. it should |
| 04:56.15 | ZorbaTHut | ugh fuck weapon skill. |
| 04:56.20 | Adys | 3.2 it didnt at least |
| 04:56.46 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: oh try removing the /'s before if and msg |
| 04:56.51 | Snigermis | btw in that script try ; at the end of line 1 |
| 04:57.16 | DWSR | Snigermis: No line terminators in mircscript |
| 04:57.22 | Snigermis | since when |
| 04:57.34 | Shirik | no difference Arrowmaster :( |
| 04:57.47 | Shirik | Snigermis: semicolon is the comment character |
| 04:57.55 | Dagmar | Why the "$*" |
| 04:58.01 | Shirik | This is the current version: http://wowi.pastey.net/132593 |
| 04:58.06 | Snigermis | oh yeah.. hmm |
| 04:58.07 | Shirik | Dagmar: $ means regex, * means all users |
| 04:58.10 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 04:58.26 | Dagmar | * already means all users, afaik |
| 04:58.34 | DWSR | Dagmar: Yes. |
| 04:58.40 | DWSR | But need $ for regex. |
| 04:59.18 | Dagmar | more mirc specialness I guess |
| 04:59.26 | Shirik | Just so I know I'm doing this right |
| 04:59.30 | Shirik | this goes in the "remote" scripts right? |
| 04:59.38 | DWSR | yes |
| 04:59.38 | Snigermis | yes |
| 05:00.40 | DWSR | Snigermis: When has there ever been line terms in mIRC script? |
| 05:01.05 | shifuimam | damn...curse mods are taking their sweet time on approvals today |
| 05:01.13 | Snigermis | 7 years ago ;P |
| 05:01.55 | DWSR | line terms are totally optional in mirc |
| 05:02.05 | Dagmar | You might wanna change [ :]+ to possibly handle a space between : and ping |
| 05:02.26 | Shirik | it does |
| 05:03.19 | Dagmar | I read 'Shirik', followed by one or more from [ :] followed immediately by 'ping' |
| 05:03.38 | Shirik | yes |
| 05:03.40 | Dagmar | Yeah you're right that'l lwork |
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| 05:04.36 | Shirik | I wonder if this script isn't even being loaded |
| 05:04.47 | Shirik | any bright ideas on how I can double check that it's being loaded? |
| 05:05.05 | Snigermis | add an output ;P |
| 05:05.07 | Shirik | It's in a different place from usual |
| 05:05.12 | Snigermis | echo -a test 1 |
| 05:05.35 | Shirik | on *:TEXT:*:*:echo Test successful |
| 05:05.36 | Shirik | that work? |
| 05:05.46 | Dagmar | Probably so |
| 05:05.54 | Shirik | ok definitely working... |
| 05:05.55 | Shirik | so wtf |
| 05:05.56 | Snigermis | hehe |
| 05:06.37 | Snigermis | hmmm if then else.? how does that work |
| 05:07.27 | Snigermis | in lua ;P |
| 05:08.03 | Shirik | just like that |
| 05:08.07 | DWSR | if (condition) then; else; end; |
| 05:08.28 | Shirik | Ok |
| 05:08.31 | Shirik | poll time |
| 05:08.33 | DWSR | mhm |
| 05:08.45 | Shirik | Vote on: The worst industry-standard language in use today |
| 05:08.48 | DWSR | Java. |
| 05:08.49 | Shirik | My vote: Verilog |
| 05:08.50 | DWSR | I mean... |
| 05:08.52 | DWSR | *cough* |
| 05:09.02 | DWSR | (I'm kidding). |
| 05:09.04 | DWSR | C. |
| 05:09.05 | DWSR | imo |
| 05:09.14 | Dagmar | Ruby |
| 05:09.35 | Dagmar | ...followed rather closely by VisualBasic |
| 05:09.41 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 05:09.44 | DWSR | I'll take that |
| 05:10.00 | ZorbaTHut | MUMPS |
| 05:10.01 | DWSR | Lua's a close 3rd, imo. ;) |
| 05:10.16 | ZorbaTHut | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MUMPS |
| 05:10.19 | ZorbaTHut | it is the worst language |
| 05:10.23 | ZorbaTHut | here let me paste in a line of code |
| 05:10.23 | shifuimam | lol lvl 19 trying to do a lvl 25+ raid on his own |
| 05:10.26 | shifuimam | he didn't know where he was |
| 05:10.27 | ZorbaTHut | S Y=$S(%DT(0)["-":$P(%DT(0),"-",2),1:%DT(0)) D DD^%DT:Y'["NOW" |
| 05:10.33 | shifuimam | ZorbaTHut: .... |
| 05:10.47 | DWSR | Ah, I know it. |
| 05:10.50 | DWSR | The worst language. |
| 05:10.51 | DWSR | Ever. |
| 05:10.53 | DWSR | LOLCAT |
| 05:11.02 | ZorbaTHut | there are still many companies using this in production situations. |
| 05:11.03 | Shirik | not industry standard... |
| 05:11.09 | DWSR | lulz, I know. |
| 05:11.52 | DWSR | In MUMPS, the current date and time is contained in a special system variable, $H (short for "HOROLOG"). The format is a pair of integers separated by a comma, e.g. "54321,12345" The first number is the number of days since December 31, 1840, i.e. day number 1 is January 1, 1841; the second is the number of seconds since midnight. |
| 05:11.54 | DWSR | What the fuck. |
| 05:12.15 | Shirik | they felt the need to be different |
| 05:12.47 | DWSR | a HYPHEN? |
| 05:12.55 | DWSR | err. |
| 05:12.59 | DWSR | s/HYPHEN/COMMA/ |
| 05:13.14 | ZorbaTHut | see, I told you mumps was the worst language |
| 05:13.48 | ZorbaTHut | MUMPS is also widely used in financial applications. MUMPS gained an early following in the financial sector, and MUMPS applications are in use at many banks and credit unions. It is used by Ameritrade, the largest online trading service in the US with over 12 billion transactions per day, as well as by the Bank of England and Barclays Bank, among others. |
| 05:15.21 | Dagmar | Because fractional leap-seconds are for pussies |
| 05:16.01 | Iriel | Im curious, what would you use instead of comma? |
| 05:16.26 | Snigermis | anyone playing 1024*768? |
| 05:16.28 | DWSR | I wouldn't implement it like that. |
| 05:16.29 | ZorbaTHut | iriel, this is like someone saying "we made a dog poop sandwich, and put a piece of ham inside" |
| 05:16.32 | Shirik | DWSR: I'm pretty far. I think I've isolated the problem |
| 05:16.35 | Shirik | I think it's confused by the : |
| 05:16.39 | ZorbaTHut | and when someone laughs about the ham, asking what they'd use instead of ham. |
| 05:16.39 | Shirik | can I escape it somehow? |
| 05:16.41 | DWSR | yes. |
| 05:16.43 | DWSR | \: |
| 05:16.53 | ZorbaTHut | the fact that it's ham is not really a problem. the mere existence of the entire sandwich is the problem. |
| 05:16.56 | DWSR | Just use a regex escape and it should figure it out. |
| 05:17.21 | Dagmar | Shirik: ping |
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| 05:18.30 | Shirik | It's definitely confused by the :, and \: has no effect |
| 05:18.40 | DWSR | use \x |
| 05:19.07 | Shirik | \x ? |
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| 05:20.08 | DWSR | You can use \x{code} to generate characters. |
| 05:20.12 | DWSR | AFAIK |
| 05:20.18 | DWSR | Since mIRC uses PCRE, again AFAIK |
| 05:21.52 | Shirik | ok |
| 05:21.55 | DWSR | Alternatively, couldn't you use a mIRC identifier in the regex? |
| 05:21.56 | Shirik | at least now it's entering the on TEXT block |
| 05:21.59 | DWSR | Like $chr()? |
| 05:22.15 | Shirik | the logic must be wrong though |
| 05:22.33 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/132595 |
| 05:22.35 | Shirik | I see "match" |
| 05:22.52 | DWSR | echo $ctime and %lastpingtime |
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| 05:23.57 | Shirik | * /echo: insufficient parameters (line 5, r-own.nbs) |
| 05:24.07 | Shirik | That's: echo $ctime |
| 05:24.58 | Shirik | you know what |
| 05:25.00 | Shirik | screw mircscript |
| 05:25.07 | shifuimam | is there a trim or left/right kind of function in Lua? |
| 05:25.17 | Shirik | THIS IS WHY WE EMBED SCRIPTING LANGUAGES AND NOT INVENT 5 MILLION CRAPPY LANGUAGES |
| 05:25.21 | shifuimam | e.g. to retain only the last two characters of something |
| 05:25.59 | olafski | I'd call that substring |
| 05:26.01 | olafski | not trim.. |
| 05:26.20 | ZorbaTHut | shirik, I've got a few friends who are trying to invent little custom niche languages right now |
| 05:26.26 | ZorbaTHut | "oh but it'll be totally fine, I only need to do X and Y" |
| 05:26.29 | Shirik | I will destroy them |
| 05:26.50 | Shirik | shifuimam: string.sub |
| 05:26.56 | ZorbaTHut | it's just, aaagh. use lua. use python. use goddamn mumps if you have to but don't introduce yet another horrible barely-turing-complete abortion of a language into the universe |
| 05:26.59 | shifuimam | thanks |
| 05:27.13 | DWSR | Actually. |
| 05:27.19 | DWSR | mircscript's pretty good. |
| 05:27.23 | Shirik | no it is not |
| 05:27.23 | DWSR | Shirik: echo -a $ctime |
| 05:27.58 | Shirik | how is that going to change anything |
| 05:28.07 | DWSR | Just try it. |
| 05:28.08 | Shirik | The command `/echo $ctime` threw an error |
| 05:28.13 | DWSR | Of course it did. |
| 05:28.19 | DWSR | Youd on't use fucking / inside scripts. |
| 05:28.19 | Shirik | same error |
| 05:28.26 | Shirik | yes I didn't do the / |
| 05:28.34 | Shirik | though I think you can |
| 05:31.55 | Shirik | ok fixed that |
| 05:32.09 | Shirik | who the hell comes up with a language where a variable and a function can have the same name, I don't know, but whatever |
| 05:32.09 | Shirik | anyway |
| 05:32.11 | Shirik | echo -a %lastpingtime |
| 05:32.12 | Shirik | now dying |
| 05:33.07 | olafski | most languages I know can do that oO |
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| 05:33.27 | Shirik | a variable and a function with the same name? |
| 05:33.29 | Shirik | wtf language does that? |
| 05:33.36 | DWSR | lots... |
| 05:33.39 | Shirik | name one |
| 05:33.41 | DWSR | PHP |
| 05:33.43 | Shirik | except mircscript |
| 05:33.53 | Shirik | no... |
| 05:33.55 | DWSR | yes |
| 05:33.59 | Iriel | Java? |
| 05:34.07 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 05:34.08 | Shirik | you could have a function variable, but not two distinct things |
| 05:34.13 | Shirik | java doesn't either... |
| 05:34.16 | Shirik | I'm not saying the RULES are the same |
| 05:34.24 | Shirik | I'm saying teh same identifier represents a distinct variable and function at the same time |
| 05:34.35 | DWSR | How the fuck are you coming to that conclusion? |
| 05:34.47 | Shirik | ? |
| 05:35.26 | Iriel | I've worked in systems where 'functions' and 'variables' are entirely different THINGS |
| 05:35.40 | Iriel | The identifiers are always used in a context where the one you mean is unambiguous |
| 05:35.46 | Iriel | and they have entirely independent namespaces |
| 05:35.52 | Iriel | so you can use the same word 'apple' for both |
| 05:35.59 | olafski | that sounds highly unlikely |
| 05:36.01 | Shirik | that's evil |
| 05:36.06 | shifuimam | how exactly do you make templates for UI elements in your XML? |
| 05:36.13 | Adys | Shirik: are you saying apple is evil? |
| 05:36.17 | shifuimam | i mean, is it even worth doing |
| 05:36.19 | Iriel | It's not a problem as long as there's no ambiguity -- that's a fairly common thing in 'old' domain specific languages |
| 05:36.23 | Shirik | shifuimam: You realize that XML is evil and go with Lua instead |
| 05:36.32 | shifuimam | Shirik: i have no idea how to use lua to create my UI |
| 05:36.39 | shifuimam | i've only used XML |
| 05:36.42 | airtonix | ... |
| 05:36.46 | Shirik | what a great time to learn then :D |
| 05:36.56 | shifuimam | i don't even know if RoM supports what WoW does by way of creating the UI with lua |
| 05:36.59 | airtonix | xml is great but totally fail in the context of wow addons imo |
| 05:37.01 | Shirik | oh right, rom |
| 05:37.06 | Adys | shifuimam: learning how to use lua to create ui elements is faster, easier and a lot healthier than learning how to use xml for it |
| 05:37.21 | shifuimam | i'm not against using lua if RoM supports it |
| 05:37.31 | airtonix | im pretty sure it does |
| 05:37.33 | Iriel | Adys: You are assuming that RoM (NOT WOW) supports it, shifuimam is working in a different game |
| 05:37.52 | shifuimam | how can i check? |
| 05:37.55 | Iriel | Amusingly however, the wow community is the only one able to help her |
| 05:38.01 | Iriel | I'd check to see if CreateFrame is a function |
| 05:38.02 | shifuimam | e.g. what's some simple script i can run that will create something |
| 05:38.04 | airtonix | shifuimam, im also pretty sure realms of magic has a wiki for creating addons |
| 05:38.15 | shifuimam | realms of magic? |
| 05:38.19 | airtonix | RoM |
| 05:38.23 | shifuimam | hah |
| 05:38.38 | shifuimam | there is one hosted by curse, but it's devoid of any useful information for anything but the most basic functions and events |
| 05:38.38 | airtonix | vis the problems with being vague in supprot requests |
| 05:38.46 | airtonix | kills the work glitch and lag |
| 05:38.54 | Iriel | And there I was thinking it stood for Rivers of Mucus |
| 05:38.54 | shifuimam | rom addon support is sorely lacking |
| 05:39.01 | ZorbaTHut | airtonix, I agree with your previous comment about xml, except for the part where you claim it's great :P |
| 05:39.11 | Iriel | It IS great for some things |
| 05:39.14 | Adys | Iriel: well that would be a decent thing to precise in the original question :P |
| 05:39.15 | shifuimam | well, calling CreateFrame() errors out as a nil value |
| 05:39.18 | airtonix | Recursive Obtuse Morons |
| 05:39.23 | shifuimam | so that's a pretty good indicator that it's not supported |
| 05:39.29 | batrick | crap... anyone know of a SocksCap program for Windows that is 64 bit? |
| 05:39.38 | airtonix | lol |
| 05:39.38 | ZorbaTHut | it's great for a few things that it's rarely used for anymore. it's really just been hugely overengineered |
| 05:39.40 | DWSR | Nope. |
| 05:39.59 | Iriel | I agree it has a massive amount of baggage you can choose to not use |
| 05:40.02 | Iriel | (XML, that is) |
| 05:40.05 | airtonix | shifuimam, so have you indicated what you mean by RoM ? |
| 05:40.12 | shifuimam | airtonix: yes, runes of magic.. |
| 05:40.16 | Adys | runes of magic |
| 05:40.48 | shifuimam | lots of runes in the game. also i think they wanted something that made a nice phonetically-pronounceable acronym |
| 05:40.59 | Adys | LOTRO |
| 05:41.02 | Adys | DAOC |
| 05:41.07 | Adys | easily pronouncable imo. |
| 05:41.11 | Adys | SWG! |
| 05:41.14 | airtonix | shifuimam, http://www.theromwiki.com/index.php/Addon_Tutorial |
| 05:41.16 | Adys | Swugg |
| 05:41.16 | Wobin | "Oh, the penguins deserve better. Spread the love... Beaky twats." |
| 05:41.22 | shifuimam | airtonix: i've been though all that |
| 05:41.30 | shifuimam | it doesn't indicate any UI generation through LUA |
| 05:41.34 | shifuimam | sorry, lua |
| 05:41.40 | Adys | Lua actually |
| 05:41.45 | airtonix | shifuimam, it does |
| 05:42.01 | airtonix | shifuimam, http://www.theromwiki.com/index.php/Addon_Tutorial#Let.27s_get_our_code_on |
| 05:42.16 | shifuimam | .... |
| 05:42.27 | shifuimam | i see the interface being in an XML file |
| 05:42.28 | airtonix | i'd say that is lua |
| 05:42.34 | airtonix | not xml |
| 05:42.51 | shifuimam | not for creating the user interface. every single RoM addon i've seen uses XML for the UI and lua for the logic/backend |
| 05:43.02 | airtonix | also from what i see there, you can treat rom addons exactly the same way you do with wow addons |
| 05:43.17 | shifuimam | there is no CreateFrame() function in the list of supported functions |
| 05:43.30 | Shirik | got it finally |
| 05:43.31 | shifuimam | running CreateFrame() indicates that the client doesn't know what it is |
| 05:43.32 | Shirik | screw $ctime |
| 05:43.49 | Shirik | much easier: ` set -u180 %pingfloodprotect 1` and check for %pingfloodprotect == $null |
| 05:45.20 | Bruners | seriously huge ammount of fake blizzard males lately |
| 05:45.25 | Bruners | fifth this week now |
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| 05:45.49 | shifuimam | fake what..? |
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| 05:46.06 | Bruners | *mails etc |
| 05:46.25 | shifuimam | ah yes....the subtle spelling difference makes the meaning |
| 05:47.05 | Bruners | or wait, 4/5 where fake, one is real :P |
| 05:48.10 | airtonix | shifuimam, CreateTestFrame or CreateUIComponent looks interesting |
| 05:48.37 | Adys | how do people confuse where and were |
| 05:48.59 | Wobin | same reason they confuse their and there and they're? |
| 05:49.06 | Wobin | cause they're twats |
| 05:49.24 | Dagmar | They don't actually speak a word of English. |
| 05:49.38 | Bruners | i will go to bed before my spelling gets worse |
| 05:49.51 | Adys | yea |
| 05:50.04 | airtonix | shifuimam, just out of interest does RoM allow you to use /script print "hello world" ? |
| 05:50.09 | Wobin | It's gotten to the point where if I see "they're" used -properly- on the Internet, I do a double take =( |
| 05:50.21 | shifuimam | airtonix: yes, i can do /script print("hello world") |
| 05:50.28 | shifuimam | i also have an addon that lets me paste in lua and execute it |
| 05:50.28 | Torhal | Wobin: My personal peeve is "I could of done that" |
| 05:50.32 | shifuimam | without having to use /script |
| 05:50.34 | Torhal | It's "could HAVE" |
| 05:50.36 | Torhal | Gah |
| 05:50.39 | shifuimam | Torhal: ++++ |
| 05:50.45 | Dagmar | Couldda. |
| 05:50.52 | Wobin | shouldda |
| 05:50.54 | Adys | could've |
| 05:50.54 | Wobin | woulda |
| 05:51.00 | Adys | buddha? |
| 05:51.35 | batrick | man windows takes centuries to do a full tcp scan of itself |
| 05:51.44 | airtonix | -_- |
| 05:51.57 | batrick | this sure doesn't take less than 7 seconds |
| 05:52.03 | batrick | i should make a parody |
| 05:52.09 | shifuimam | batrick: what are you trying to do? |
| 05:52.27 | batrick | full port scan on winblows 7 |
| 05:52.55 | batrick | it will be done in 54 minutes |
| 05:53.06 | batrick | scan takes 1-2 seconds on linux |
| 05:53.10 | batrick | worthless. |
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| 05:53.56 | shifuimam | batrick: it doesn't take that long for me... |
| 05:54.00 | shifuimam | what are you using to do the scan? |
| 05:54.40 | batrick | zenmap |
| 05:54.46 | batrick | aka nmap + gui |
| 05:54.46 | shifuimam | huh |
| 05:54.48 | shifuimam | weird |
| 05:54.51 | shifuimam | yeah, that's what i use |
| 05:55.25 | DWSR | Ze nmap? |
| 05:55.26 | DWSR | ;) |
| 05:56.15 | Adys | clever |
| 05:56.18 | Adys | almost funny |
| 05:59.03 | DWSR | zomg. |
| 05:59.06 | DWSR | Just won T10 legs. |
| 05:59.07 | DWSR | :D |
| 05:59.10 | DWSR | gogo VoA |
| 05:59.10 | Cairenn | gmoz |
| 05:59.18 | DWSR | That means 4pT10 tomorrow! |
| 05:59.24 | DWSR | And my 4pT10 is so bonerific. |
| 06:01.17 | DWSR | http://www.wowhead.com/?item=50242 |
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| 06:07.19 | Wobin | ugh |
| 06:07.24 | Wobin | love is in the air already? |
| 06:07.32 | shifuimam | gaaaaaah i am sick of my damn client crashing |
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| 06:09.24 | Adys | Guard Fengus says: You da man now, dog! |
| 06:09.32 | DWSR | lulz |
| 06:13.19 | shifuimam | good thing i back up my save variables file... |
| 06:13.21 | Shirik | halp |
| 06:13.24 | Shirik | I have hartburn |
| 06:13.27 | Shirik | it is the fire |
| 06:13.30 | shifuimam | pepcid AC ftw |
| 06:13.42 | Shirik | where am I going to go at 1:13 AM |
| 06:13.46 | shifuimam | CVS? |
| 06:13.52 | Shirik | I have a rubber band, a spoon, and a box of donuts |
| 06:13.55 | Shirik | figure it out mcguyver |
| 06:14.02 | Snigermis | hehe |
| 06:14.04 | Snigermis | mcgyver |
| 06:14.12 | Torhal | Shirik: Why do you live in a remote corner of the wilderness? |
| 06:14.17 | DWSR | Richard Dean Anderson stars in "I can fly my boat to the moon" |
| 06:16.30 | shifuimam | if i use tonumber() on a value like 001, that will convert it to 1, right? |
| 06:16.37 | Wobin | Shirik, tie a rubber band to a donut |
| 06:16.48 | Wobin | then play yo-yo with stomach acid |
| 06:17.13 | Snigermis | why didnt blizzard make xml for unitframes. or did I miss something |
| 06:17.17 | Shirik | ok I got one of those Bic candle lighter thingies |
| 06:17.21 | Shirik | and I'm looking at the back |
| 06:17.31 | Snigermis | <Script file="UnitFrame.lua"/> |
| 06:17.34 | Shirik | Warning: Do not lite candle for more than 30 seconds |
| 06:17.36 | Snigermis | thats all in the xml hmm |
| 06:17.40 | Shirik | I don't think that's what they meant... |
| 06:18.18 | shifuimam | lol |
| 06:18.41 | Shirik | Oh I like this |
| 06:19.07 | Snigermis | trying to find out how i can manipulate the dam unitframes lol |
| 06:19.07 | Snigermis | but its all code |
| 06:19.07 | Shirik | "This lighter is child-proof. There is no substitute for proper adult supervision" |
| 06:19.10 | Shirik | Oh wait, nm, it says "NO lighter is child-proof" I just ripped that part off :/ |
| 06:20.39 | airtonix | lulz |
| 06:21.03 | airtonix | 'this lighter is child proof" sweet (hands it to the 8 year old child standing next to him) |
| 06:22.33 | airtonix | Snigermis, you might learn something about unitframes and manipulating them if you absorb the ouf subforums at wowinterface |
| 06:22.42 | Snigermis | so how do one remove a part of blizzards lua code... in this case the portrait lol |
| 06:22.52 | airtonix | Snigermis, when i say absorb i mean set aside a week of your time to reading it |
| 06:23.39 | Snigermis | huh? |
| 06:23.58 | Wobin | basically unitframes are so nontrivial that we can't just give you an answer |
| 06:24.07 | Snigermis | ouf subforums? |
| 06:24.11 | airtonix | english! do you speak it ! |
| 06:24.12 | Snigermis | hehe |
| 06:24.23 | airtonix | your googlefu is weak |
| 06:25.28 | shifuimam | airtonix: i believe the correct syntax is |
| 06:25.34 | shifuimam | "English! Do you speak it, motherfucker?!" |
| 06:26.33 | airtonix | ... espousing vulgarities are not a virtuous trait |
| 06:26.41 | shifuimam | airtonix: it's from a movie |
| 06:26.48 | airtonix | you think ? |
| 06:26.51 | airtonix | -_- |
| 06:27.04 | shifuimam | also is there a way to prepend zeros to a value in order to maintain a certain number of digits |
| 06:27.11 | shifuimam | converting 1 to 01, 2 to 02, but 10 stays 10... |
| 06:27.23 | Snigermis | my googlefu is lazy ;P |
| 06:27.26 | airtonix | good question |
| 06:28.35 | Snigermis | oh btw.. I dont want an addon when I'm making an addon omg |
| 06:28.41 | Snigermis | ouf UF is not what i want |
| 06:28.50 | shifuimam | i mean, i could kludge an if statement to add a 0 to it, but i'm wondering if theres some built in function |
| 06:29.09 | shifuimam | i suppose i could also just make my own life easier and not use the prepended 0 at all |
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| 06:29.34 | xqo | Hi! Can i make the graphics reload somehow? |
| 06:29.42 | xqo | you know, reload all objects and shit |
| 06:30.04 | Cairenn | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:30.36 | shifuimam | hmm....how can i make a concatenated string be parsed as an element? |
| 06:30.42 | Iriel | Graphics is /run RestartGx() |
| 06:30.52 | Ancu | arrow are you on? |
| 06:30.52 | shifuimam | e.g. i have 17 checkboxes named EQSwap_1 through EQSwap_17 |
| 06:31.26 | Wobin | Snigermis, one thing you might learn eventually about addons, is that to learn you must understand. And reading other people's code is a very good way to understand. |
| 06:31.51 | Wobin | If an addon is doing something similar to what you are trying to do, then reading the code for that addon will only help you |
| 06:31.58 | Wobin | even if it's "oh my god, I can't believe they did that" |
| 06:32.27 | shifuimam | oh neat. so apparently lua can parse concantenation as actual elements and variables |
| 06:32.32 | shifuimam | unless my eyes are deceiving me |
| 06:33.26 | Wobin | if you mean MyTable["a"+myVariable] then yes. If you mean local "a" + blah = "frog" then probably no. |
| 06:33.32 | shifuimam | oh no, i'm a moron |
| 06:33.55 | shifuimam | and, yeah. i want to do: if("EQSwap_"..i ~= nil) then ... end |
| 06:34.09 | shifuimam | is there a built in function to parse that> |
| 06:34.24 | Wobin | if getglobal("EQSwap_"..i) ~= nil then |
| 06:34.38 | Wobin | if EQSwap_(i) is a global |
| 06:34.54 | shifuimam | it's the name of a widget on a frame |
| 06:35.00 | shifuimam | so yes, i believe it is global |
| 06:35.20 | shifuimam | ah yes that works. thank you. |
| 06:36.03 | xqo | Thanks! |
| 06:37.07 | Shirik | man, I forgot how good candles (can) smell |
| 06:37.11 | Shirik | need to use them more |
| 06:37.13 | Shirik | screw lights |
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| 06:39.56 | awweaver | Hola |
| 06:41.47 | Ancu | Has arrowmaster told anyone why he wont upgrade cartographer? |
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| 06:42.07 | Shirik | he won't upgrade cartographer? Not that I'm against him, just hadn't heard that |
| 06:46.15 | awweaver | I use Carbonite, they have their own map |
| 06:46.43 | awweaver | although they arent on curse...which is a pain, on the bright side they do tell u when a new version is out |
| 06:47.45 | shifuimam | if i have a string that looks like "0,1,2,3" can i turn that into an array by doing something like myArr = {string} ? |
| 06:49.02 | Shirik | string.split |
| 06:49.05 | Shirik | wait |
| 06:49.10 | shifuimam | waits |
| 06:49.13 | awweaver | im not sure on that one.. |
| 06:49.14 | Shirik | I can't help you in your game |
| 06:49.18 | Shirik | string.split would be right |
| 06:49.23 | Shirik | but your game is evil |
| 06:49.38 | shifuimam | my game is not evil. it supports pretty much any lua that WoW supports |
| 06:49.49 | Shirik | well then try string.split |
| 06:49.56 | Shirik | if that doesn't work you're going to have to do something like string.gmatch |
| 06:50.17 | awweaver | i think, myArr = string.split(string) should work |
| 06:50.54 | shifuimam | string.split aparently doesn't work |
| 06:50.58 | shifuimam | apparently* |
| 06:51.48 | shifuimam | ah, strsplit is a custom wow function |
| 06:52.42 | shifuimam | is there a way i can iterate through a comma-delimited string? |
| 06:52.48 | Shirik | string.gmatch |
| 06:53.37 | Shirik | lua> for x in ("a,b,c,d,e"):gmatch("[^,]+") do print(x) end |
| 06:53.37 | lua_bot | Shirik: a, b, c, d, e |
| 06:53.46 | Shirik | heh, poor example |
| 06:54.11 | Shirik | lua> local v = 0; for x in ("1,2,3,4,5"):gmatch("[^,]+") do v = v + tonumber(x) end print(v) |
| 06:54.11 | lua_bot | Shirik: 15 |
| 06:54.39 | awweaver | lol... |
| 06:54.57 | shifuimam | ah, regex... |
| 06:55.10 | shifuimam | i've never been very fast at composing a regex statement |
| 06:55.50 | shifuimam | using string.gmatch works...this is just a lot easier/faster than storing each persistent equipment slot as a separate variable in the user's variable file |
| 06:57.21 | Torhal | Ancu: This is from the AddOn's Curse page: Cartographer(v2) uses an outdated framework that will not be updated in the case of major breakages so Cartographer(v2) would require a complete rewrite. Neither of the two main developers (Ckknight and Arrowmaster) have the time nor desire to do this currently. |
| 06:58.13 | awweaver | ok i have a probelm i need to, when the player has a certain target from a list of names, it needs to display a msg to the player....im nto sure how to identify the player |
| 06:59.52 | Ancu | If I win the addon book I will offer to take it over....maybe |
| 07:01.16 | batrick | hmm |
| 07:01.29 | awweaver | So can anyone offer a solutiong for me?\ |
| 07:02.31 | Kraps | meh, Tali got exiled and now i feel crappy |
| 07:03.09 | Kraps | i couldnt choose either the paragon or renegade choice |
| 07:03.57 | awweaver | ok i found tha UnitName("target") will work...yay |
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| 07:06.06 | awweaver | 0.o |
| 07:06.26 | airtonix | your mother was a hamster and your father smells of ELDERBERRIES! |
| 07:09.57 | awweaver | o.0 |
| 07:10.01 | shifuimam | woot i think i am done with this addon |
| 07:10.08 | shifuimam | now i just need curse to approve it :P |
| 07:11.36 | Cairenn | you could always see how fast WoWInterface's approval process is :p |
| 07:11.45 | awweaver | im trying to get my main function of my addon to work, no success so far |
| 07:11.49 | Adys | It's almost as fast as bibi with girls |
| 07:12.07 | Cairenn | pokes Adys |
| 07:13.21 | Shirik | Adys wtf >< |
| 07:13.50 | shifuimam | Cairenn: i thought curse was all anti wowinterface? |
| 07:14.03 | Cairenn | are they? |
| 07:14.08 | Cairenn | regardless, your point? |
| 07:14.26 | shifuimam | hell if i know. isn't this a curse-created channel? |
| 07:14.30 | Cairenn | lol |
| 07:14.32 | Adys | C'est pas le noir du sixieme qui est anti-front national, c'est le nationaliste qui est anti noir du sixieme! |
| 07:14.44 | Cairenn | ~Cairenn |
| 07:14.45 | purl | you are, like, one of the administrators of WoWInterface, also EQI, EQ2I, LotROI and VGI |
| 07:14.47 | shifuimam | nous sommes les trois chats! soyez une chat avec nous! |
| 07:15.11 | shifuimam | too bad wowinterface doesn't support RoM :P |
| 07:16.03 | Shirik | ~Shirik |
| 07:16.04 | purl | it has been said that shirik is "If I had to sum up my life, I'd have to say, the one thing I hate doing is nothing." --Shirik |
| 07:16.11 | Shirik | why does it say "you are" |
| 07:16.12 | Adys | ~adys |
| 07:16.15 | Shirik | but it doesn't say "you are" to me :( |
| 07:16.20 | Adys | ~cairenn |
| 07:16.20 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, cairenn is one of the administrators of WoWInterface, also EQI, EQ2I, LotROI and VGI |
| 07:16.36 | Adys | ~factinfo adys |
| 07:16.36 | purl | Adys: there's no such factoid as adys |
| 07:16.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: purl doesn't like you |
| 07:16.41 | Adys | oh |
| 07:16.47 | Adys | i deleted it when tekkub messed with it |
| 07:16.49 | Adys | ~tekkub |
| 07:16.50 | purl | hmm... tekkub is The author of many great and prominent addons, such as the original BigWigs design. He's been a long time figure in the Ace community, now recently switching to the new lighter, integrated library solution, Dongle. His personal site and SVN for non-Ace projects can be found at http://code.google.com/p/tekkub-wow/ |
| 07:17.15 | Adys | purl, tekkub is also a bear in disguise |
| 07:17.15 | purl | Adys: okay |
| 07:17.22 | shifuimam | i'm nothing :( |
| 07:17.31 | airtonix | confirmed |
| 07:17.33 | shifuimam | is a noob |
| 07:17.34 | Shirik | purl, adys is <reply> adys se fait habite en les états unis |
| 07:17.34 | purl | i'm not going to learn illegal characters, Shirik |
| 07:17.37 | Shirik | ... |
| 07:17.42 | Adys | hahah |
| 07:17.45 | Shirik | purl, adys is <reply> adys se fait habite en les etats unis |
| 07:17.46 | purl | okay, Shirik |
| 07:17.46 | Adys | ~purl++ |
| 07:17.46 | Cairenn | lol |
| 07:17.46 | shifuimam | hahaha |
| 07:17.56 | shifuimam | i guess purl doesn't like unicode |
| 07:18.09 | Adys | ~x en jp penis |
| 07:18.10 | Shirik | no, purl hates unicode. I especially like translation: |
| 07:18.20 | Adys | ~purl++ |
| 07:18.23 | Shirik | ~x jp en ãã¯ãã |
| 07:18.24 | shifuimam | i get squares |
| 07:18.31 | shifuimam | not that time |
| 07:18.38 | shifuimam | for some weird reason pidgin really really hates unicode |
| 07:18.51 | Adys | pidgin sucks ass, why do you use it for irc? |
| 07:18.54 | shifuimam | even though i'm using a font i know has all the characters |
| 07:18.56 | Shirik | ^ |
| 07:19.01 | shifuimam | i tried mirc and xchat today and hated them both |
| 07:19.10 | shifuimam | i like pidgin/carrier for irc, tbh.. |
| 07:19.12 | Adys | why would you hate xchat? |
| 07:19.14 | Shirik | use nbs-irc |
| 07:19.17 | Shirik | because xchat is shit |
| 07:19.28 | Shirik | it's overrated crap |
| 07:19.30 | shifuimam | xchat did wonky unexpected UI stuff after i restarted it |
| 07:19.35 | shifuimam | is nbs-irc a GUI client? |
| 07:19.36 | Shirik | at least mirc is crap and rated as such |
| 07:19.40 | Adys | it's the best thing you can find for linux |
| 07:19.44 | Shirik | nbs-irc is a script on top of mirc that makes it actually good |
| 07:19.46 | shifuimam | ....i'm in windows |
| 07:24.02 | batrick | shirik, you should know better than to say such nonsense! |
| 07:25.02 | nevcairiel | "good" as in only being able to write UTF-8 in one channel, right! :P |
| 07:28.56 | shifuimam | does WoW have an API call to load variables from a global user variables file? |
| 07:29.12 | batrick | has wow added SOCKS support yet? |
| 07:29.33 | shifuimam | i'm having a problem with RoM's function that does that, and i'm not sure if WoW has something similar |
| 07:30.18 | Shirik | batrick |
| 07:30.19 | Shirik | what did I say |
| 07:30.38 | batrick | nbs-irc is a script on top of mirc that makes it actually good |
| 07:30.42 | batrick | "" |
| 07:30.45 | Shirik | truth |
| 07:30.50 | Shirik | thank you for agreeing |
| 07:30.56 | batrick | if your backend blows monkey nuts then the whole thing does |
| 07:31.08 | batrick | kinda analogous to winblows making everything else shit |
| 07:31.18 | batrick | like my poor Nmap scan taking an hour when it should take 2 seconds |
| 07:31.22 | Shirik | to be honest, mirc has a fairly good grasp on protocol, unlike, for example, xchat |
| 07:31.35 | Shirik | it certainly does MORE than the protocol, but what's in the protocol it does fairly well |
| 07:31.43 | shifuimam | xchat just had a crappy interface for things like saving and auto-joining channels |
| 07:32.00 | Shirik | xchat doesn't even know how to parse a CTCP message |
| 07:32.15 | batrick | as if those are used for anything but spamming |
| 07:32.22 | batrick | i consider that a feature |
| 07:32.26 | Shirik | that's not really what I mean |
| 07:32.36 | Shirik | I mean I can cause an xchat client to think someone else sent a CTCP message |
| 07:33.00 | Torhal | Konversation. That is all. |
| 07:33.02 | Shirik | because its parsing is completely wrong |
| 07:33.57 | shifuimam | sooooo....does wow have a save variables type function? |
| 07:34.20 | airtonix | ... |
| 07:34.28 | Torhal | shifuimam: SavedVariables exist in the global table, as a table. |
| 07:34.47 | shifuimam | okay. is there also a function ot save variables on a per-character basis? |
| 07:34.55 | Adys | "praeslet" |
| 07:35.05 | Adys | 10 bucks to the one who finds what typo that is |
| 07:35.18 | airtonix | its a new form of religious applets widget |
| 07:35.26 | nevcairiel | Adys: preset? |
| 07:35.32 | Adys | it's not preset |
| 07:35.32 | nevcairiel | thats what i thought of first |
| 07:35.33 | Adys | it's a name |
| 07:35.40 | shifuimam | the reason i ask is because RoM has both SaveVariables() and SaveVariablesPerCharacter() functions, and i'm using SaveVariablesPerCharacter() but for some bizarro reason it's loading the previously-logged-in character's settings |
| 07:35.57 | Torhal | shifuimam: A ToC entry: ## SavedVariablesPerCharacter |
| 07:36.04 | Torhal | ...which is also a table |
| 07:36.19 | shifuimam | in RoM's case it's actually a lua text file saved to my documents |
| 07:36.19 | Torhal | Why RoM has functions for table access/loading is beyond me. |
| 07:36.24 | Torhal | Same with WoW |
| 07:36.32 | Adys | nobody? nothing? |
| 07:36.37 | Torhal | If that declaration exists in the ToC, it loads the file as a table |
| 07:36.40 | shifuimam | this is how RoM oes it : http://www.theromwiki.com/index.php/API:SaveVariables |
| 07:36.49 | Adys | i wanted to hear "pretzel" because this is what I thought of first |
| 07:36.53 | Adys | but it's actually "bracelet" |
| 07:36.53 | shifuimam | SaveVariablesPerCharacter() SHOULD behave the same way |
| 07:37.00 | shifuimam | Adys: i figured it was "Bracelet" |
| 07:37.15 | shifuimam | which i realize sounds like i'm an idiot since i said it after the fact. whatever. |
| 07:37.15 | Adys | how do you typo bracelet like that |
| 07:37.17 | Adys | it's insane |
| 07:37.22 | shifuimam | by being very very illiterate |
| 07:37.26 | shifuimam | which isn't that rare on the Internet in 2009... |
| 07:37.32 | Dagmar | Yeah I think that's just illiteracy, not a typo. |
| 07:37.37 | Torhal | shifuimam: http://www.wowwiki.com/The_TOC_Format http://www.wowwiki.com/SavedVariables |
| 07:37.44 | Adys | yeah but |
| 07:37.56 | Adys | anyone backing me up on the pretzel theory? |
| 07:38.04 | shifuimam | Torhal: yeah, RoM definitely does it differently |
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| 07:38.07 | Torhal | Yup |
| 07:38.12 | Torhal | Strangely, if you ask me |
| 07:38.25 | shifuimam | i just don't understand why it's saving character A's settings to Character B when B logs in |
| 07:38.28 | shifuimam | it shouldn't be doing that |
| 07:39.39 | Torhal | shifuimam: I suggest looking at AddOns found here: http://rom.curseforge.com/addons/ |
| 07:39.43 | Torhal | See how they're doing it. |
| 07:39.47 | shifuimam | yeah, that's what i've been doing |
| 07:40.01 | shifuimam | i think i need to set a default value |
| 07:41.00 | Torhal | I thought about writing some RoM AddOns, then saw that RoM doesn't have a CreateFrame() function and since I refuse to use XML that idea died. |
| 07:41.18 | shifuimam | yeah, the XML is a little daunting |
| 07:41.26 | shifuimam | it's too bad there's not some IDE to make writing it a little faster |
| 07:41.32 | shifuimam | i do a lot of copying and pasting from other addons |
| 07:42.07 | Fisker | slaps Torhal around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:43.21 | Torhal | ~kill Fisker |
| 07:43.22 | purl | ACTION shoots a hyper-charged pseudoproton gun at Fisker |
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| 07:44.54 | Shirik | OH LOOK |
| 07:45.03 | Shirik | batrick is all like "lol windows is evil shirik why u so stupid" |
| 07:45.12 | Shirik | and then he's all like (02:44:11) (batrick) i need your windows wisdom(02:44:11) (batrick) i need your windows wisdom |
| 07:45.14 | Shirik | whoops |
| 07:48.47 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:49.33 | shifuimam | gaaaaah this makes no sense |
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| 07:56.28 | Shirik | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout |
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| 08:00.44 | shifuimam | i hate having to make hacks to fix a problem |
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| 08:05.06 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/132604 |
| 08:05.30 | Shirik | 10 things I know about you ^ |
| 08:07.11 | shifuimam | i don't suppose there's a chance of you one of you might be able to help with this part of my RoM addon even though the particular function i'm using isn't in WoW... |
| 08:07.17 | nevcairiel | you posted that a while ago already Shirik |
| 08:07.21 | Shirik | did I? |
| 08:07.42 | Shirik | I guess there's only a finite number of random things I can post |
| 08:08.04 | Shirik | some day I'll have Cairenn pics to post |
| 08:09.07 | Shirik | :( no response from Cairenn |
| 08:09.08 | Shirik | boring |
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| 08:11.31 | Cairenn | sorry, too tired to be witty atm |
| 08:11.35 | Cairenn | and on that note |
| 08:15.25 | Shirik | C:\Users\mpdelbuono>bootcfg /Query |
| 08:15.26 | Shirik | ERROR: You are not authorized to modify the contents of boot.ini file. |
| 08:15.33 | Shirik | What part of "query" means "I want to change this" |
| 08:16.14 | Shirik | Oh this is promising |
| 08:16.15 | Shirik | C:\Windows\system32>bootcfg /query |
| 08:16.15 | Shirik | ERROR: Cannot open BOOT.INI file. |
| 08:16.34 | nevcairiel | you sure you have a boot.ini? |
| 08:16.51 | nevcairiel | its only used for XP and older, vista and 7 use bcdedit |
| 08:16.56 | Shirik | ah that's it |
| 08:16.57 | Shirik | yes |
| 08:17.10 | Shirik | I want my windows 3.1 back |
| 08:17.31 | nevcairiel | well not that old =P |
| 08:18.17 | nevcairiel | Shirik: http://www.michaelv.org/ windows 3.1, go nuts |
| 08:18.44 | Shirik | yeah you know what |
| 08:18.45 | Shirik | fuck that site |
| 08:18.47 | Shirik | it's wrong |
| 08:18.55 | Shirik | it doesn't even have the "type" command |
| 08:19.03 | Shirik | I lived off that command |
| 08:19.27 | Adys | hahah |
| 08:19.29 | Adys | it's coded in php |
| 08:19.33 | Adys | well in the spirit of windows. |
| 08:20.01 | nevcairiel | haha he even implemented the media player using a flash player |
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| 08:22.15 | Shirik | and I finished minesweeper and it didn't even let me put in a high score |
| 08:22.31 | airtonix | C:\>format |
| 08:22.32 | airtonix | Bad command or file name |
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| 08:22.40 | nevcairiel | maybe you just didnt score enough points |
| 08:24.56 | Shirik | points? |
| 08:24.57 | Shirik | it's a time |
| 08:25.01 | Adys | whats the slash command to make someone gm? |
| 08:25.03 | Shirik | nevcairiel does not know his minesweeper |
| 08:25.08 | Shirik | it's /gm |
| 08:25.11 | Shirik | oh |
| 08:25.14 | Shirik | you mean guild master |
| 08:25.16 | Shirik | I dunno |
| 08:25.27 | Xinhuan | its /gleader |
| 08:25.38 | Adys | ffs |
| 08:25.42 | Adys | requires the char to be online |
| 08:25.46 | Xinhuan | yes |
| 08:25.52 | Xinhuan | you can't pass to your own alt |
| 08:25.56 | Xinhuan | without a 2nd person |
| 08:26.05 | Adys | ya |
| 08:26.22 | nevcairiel | I've been online at the same time as an alt before |
| 08:26.26 | nevcairiel | :d |
| 08:26.31 | Adys | ohhhhhhh |
| 08:26.36 | Adys | ~nevcairiel+ |
| 08:26.37 | Adys | ~nevcairiel++ |
| 08:27.02 | nevcairiel | i forgot what i did, something that bugged out that one character and i couldnt login on it for 15 mins or something |
| 08:27.08 | nevcairiel | and it didnt go offline |
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| 08:27.49 | Adys | HAHAHAHHA |
| 08:27.52 | Adys | fu. |
| 08:27.58 | Adys | I forgot |
| 08:27.58 | mikma | haste: http://kuvaton.com/bshit/1265426086449.gif |
| 08:28.12 | Adys | when a char is fake-offline |
| 08:28.20 | Adys | it doesnt have a guild |
| 08:28.29 | Adys | so I cant promote my online alt because it's not in my guild :( |
| 08:29.13 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 08:31.34 | Fisker | hehe |
| 08:44.04 | Adys | great fucking job kde |
| 08:44.18 | Adys | I cant change date & time, it clearly tells me "You are not allowed to do this" |
| 08:44.26 | Adys | but nowhere does it let me escalate to root |
| 08:44.27 | Adys | ffs |
| 08:50.59 | nevcairiel | if any of the auctioneer people are around, your mirror02 seems to be unreachable |
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| 09:00.15 | kiaN | hey |
| 09:00.26 | kiaN | persian ? |
| 09:02.05 | kiaN | PerisanWoW.tk ! |
| 09:02.05 | kiaN | We support both Burning Crusade (2.4.3) and fall of the Lich King (3.3.x) clients. Persian WoW provides lag - free servers for you to enjoy World of Warcraft on, absolutely free! |
| 09:02.05 | kiaN | 2.4.3 : set realmlist 85.185.71.47 - Active |
| 09:02.05 | kiaN | http://persianwow.tk |
| 09:02.27 | nevcairiel | Shirik: be useful |
| 09:03.03 | kiaN | PerisanWoW.tk ! We support both Burning Crusade (2.4.3) and fall of the Lich King (3.3.x) clients. Persian WoW provides lag - free servers for you to enjoy World of Warcraft on, absolutely free! 2.4.3 : set realmlist 5.185.71.47 - Active http://persianwow.tk |
| 09:03.23 | kiaN | PerisanWoW.tk ! We support both Burning Crusade (2.4.3) and fall of the Lich King (3.3.x) clients. Persian WoW provides lag - free servers for you to enjoy World of Warcraft on, absolutely free! 2.4.3 : set realmlist 5.185.71.47 - Active http://persianwow.tk |
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| 09:04.25 | Fisker | choose your next words wisely persian |
| 09:05.44 | tekkub | bollocks |
| 09:07.57 | Fisker | [10:06:10] -kiaN- fuck off |
| 09:07.57 | Fisker | aww |
| 09:08.05 | Fisker | little persian is angry :( |
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| 10:28.57 | Bibi | wait, Persian WoW provides lag? :( |
| 10:29.19 | nevcairiel | lag on free servers |
| 10:29.21 | nevcairiel | isnt it great |
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| 10:38.43 | haste | lol |
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| 10:47.59 | nevcairiel | so, warrior leveling. My warrior has lvl 70 prot gear (ZA level), and mostly blue dps gear + heirlooms, whats better/easier to level with? prot or dps? |
| 10:48.15 | mikma | prot :O |
| 10:48.23 | Legorol | they are both pretty good |
| 10:48.30 | mikma | that's true |
| 10:48.37 | mikma | i leveled my friends warrior as dps |
| 10:48.39 | mikma | it was damn fun |
| 10:48.40 | Legorol | prot is easier if you get into the habit of pulling multiple mobs :o) |
| 10:48.43 | haste | prot was insane tho' |
| 10:49.01 | Legorol | i stronlgy recommend getting the heirloom that gives 2% Hp when you kill something |
| 10:49.07 | Legorol | i think that's the haste one |
| 10:49.15 | nevcairiel | i looked at that, kinda silly with haste |
| 10:49.16 | nevcairiel | but meh |
| 10:49.19 | Legorol | it makes you unstoppable, no need to ever eat or take a break |
| 10:49.25 | mikma | legorol: get 2x of those :D |
| 10:49.30 | mikma | 4% <3 |
| 10:49.32 | Legorol | the haste is kinda wasted, but the Hp boost is awesome! |
| 10:49.38 | Legorol | i found just one was enough |
| 10:50.26 | Legorol | nevcairiel: the 2% Hp you get back is going to far outweight any dps gain you'd get from another trinky in that spot in terms of your amount of mobs killed per hor |
| 10:50.29 | Legorol | *hour |
| 10:50.34 | Legorol | that's my expereince anyway |
| 10:50.43 | nevcairiel | so real prot with shield etc, just with the plate dps heirlooms for exp |
| 10:50.46 | nevcairiel | equips stuff |
| 10:51.04 | Legorol | i'd put together a +BV set |
| 10:51.16 | Legorol | augmented by dps items |
| 10:51.19 | Legorol | and ofc shield :) |
| 10:51.39 | Legorol | you don't need "classic" tank pieces with defense etc imo |
| 10:51.45 | Legorol | unless they have BV :) |
| 10:52.04 | Legorol | i forget the name of the talent off the top of my head that hurts things that attack you (prot talent) |
| 10:52.12 | Legorol | with enough BV, you will look like as if you had consecrate down ;) |
| 10:53.55 | nevcairiel | just need to get the flying-at-70 book now, and i'm set |
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| 10:56.50 | amro | ZorbaTHut: ping |
| 10:57.02 | ZorbaTHut | yo |
| 10:57.19 | amro | you use opengl with your games right? |
| 10:57.34 | ZorbaTHut | yup |
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| 10:57.53 | amro | do you have any idea what might be causing this? http://forums.tigsource.com/index.php?topic=10947.0 |
| 10:59.25 | ZorbaTHut | can't say, sorry. what's the cpu use like in debug mode? |
| 11:01.18 | amro | hm, didn't check that |
| 11:01.58 | ZorbaTHut | Very Sleepy should, in theory, also be able to tell you where it's spending most of its time, idle or not |
| 11:03.06 | amro | I'll do more thorough profiling next time I'm on windows |
| 11:03.18 | amro | this is frustrating :( |
| 11:04.15 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, performance issues suck |
| 11:04.37 | ZorbaTHut | the last issue I ran into turned out to be first a terrible performance decision in the rendering hooks I was using |
| 11:04.47 | ZorbaTHut | and then it next turned out to be an issue with changing shaders too often |
| 11:05.08 | amro | I'm not doing anything fancy when rendering |
| 11:05.43 | amro | I'll have to double check, but it ran at 70fps even with everything disabled |
| 11:05.54 | amro | I suspect it's some kind of pixel format issue |
| 11:07.13 | ZorbaTHut | oy, I was hoping Very Sleepy did the whole call tree thing |
| 11:07.14 | ZorbaTHut | but it doesn't |
| 11:07.31 | ZorbaTHut | why is there no good profiler on windows (answer: because I've only seen one good profiler ever, and google made it, and they haven't ported it to windows) |
| 11:08.55 | amro | this? http://code.google.com/p/google-perftools/ |
| 11:08.58 | ZorbaTHut | yeah |
| 11:09.07 | ZorbaTHut | the profiler is an incredible joy to use |
| 11:09.15 | amro | it looks like it has a windows build |
| 11:09.28 | ZorbaTHut | the CPU profiler doesn't support windows yet. some other parts of it do |
| 11:09.32 | amro | ah |
| 11:11.20 | ZorbaTHut | http://google-perftools.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/doc/pprof-vsnprintf.gif <-- seriously though, tell me this isn't amazing for profiling |
| 11:12.16 | amro | I'll try that |
| 11:12.19 | amro | valgrind is a pain in the ass |
| 11:12.26 | ZorbaTHut | highly recommended |
| 11:12.39 | ZorbaTHut | ain't gonna help you with the windows problems though ;) |
| 11:13.06 | amro | I suspect the windows problem will end up being solved by adding/removing one line |
| 11:13.31 | amro | but which out of 30,000 :( |
| 11:16.37 | ZorbaTHut | in theory there's the nvidia or ati performance tools that will tell you where the bottlenecks are |
| 11:16.46 | ZorbaTHut | in practice I've never gotten them to work |
| 11:17.07 | ZorbaTHut | you could try disabling rendering features to see what happens |
| 11:17.15 | amro | yes that's exactly what I was thinking |
| 11:19.05 | ZorbaTHut | how often are you changing textures? that can be expensive |
| 11:19.19 | amro | glBindTexture? |
| 11:19.23 | ZorbaTHut | yeah |
| 11:19.32 | amro | quite often, I use FTGLTextureFont |
| 11:19.56 | ZorbaTHut | just for comedy's sake, try commenting out all of your glBindTexture calls, see what it does to the framerate on windows |
| 11:20.27 | amro | you use msvc or mingw? |
| 11:20.32 | ZorbaTHut | mingw |
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| 11:39.19 | Adys | anyone good with db optimization? |
| 11:39.25 | Adys | or db perf really |
| 11:40.00 | Adys | Im torn between a bit of a blizzard-mirroring behaviour which involves an union of 1 type column and 25 variableData columns |
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| 11:40.41 | Adys | or a single model for each type, but which would involve a bunch of different tables (two dozens) |
| 11:40.52 | Adys | unless there is another way |
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| 12:20.00 | Adys | ~wowiquotes |
| 12:20.00 | purl | http://www.teomyr.eu/wowuidev/irc-quotes |
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| 14:13.15 | Wobin | Hehe, Undercity Love Boat |
| 14:14.15 | Fisker | old |
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| 14:33.54 | Kraps | Greetings, Earthclan! |
| 14:34.00 | Kraps | http://www.cad-comic.com/sillies/ |
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| 14:35.34 | Cidwel | hi all |
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| 15:05.38 | amro | Shirik: ping |
| 15:05.39 | Shirik | amro : You sent me a contentless ping. This is a contentless pong. If you need something from me, please say what you need. Thanks. |
| 15:05.51 | amro | Shirik: stop being a douche. |
| 15:06.27 | Adys | Shirik: contentless ping |
| 15:06.36 | amro | owned |
| 15:10.11 | Cidwel | wat |
| 15:17.31 | Kraps | Cidwel: it's nothing, look away |
| 15:18.27 | Cidwel | ah yesh, right |
| 15:19.55 | Kraps | OMG DID YOU SEE THE CEREBRUS DAILY NEWS? |
| 15:20.20 | Kraps | Super Bowl CCXIX |
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| 15:32.13 | Snigermis | guess who's heading to a sportsbar ro see SB |
| 15:32.57 | Snigermis | to* |
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| 15:48.06 | elec29a | hi could someone help me to identify my pc problem i have a SAPPHIRE AM2rs740g Mainboard and AMD Phenom, II x4 940 (4CPUs) 3GHz and Asus Nvidia GTX260 896MB and i get only 1-3 frames in 25er grps ? is there some way to see whats the problem (maybe the cheap mainboard) crysis runs perferctly on 80 frames max settings... i dont have spyware or other software running |
| 15:48.48 | Snigermis | the last part... you probably got windows. so thats a spyware ;P |
| 15:48.55 | Snigermis | but that seems to be driver issue |
| 15:49.24 | elec29a | i testet new nvidia and older asus drivers same result |
| 15:49.45 | Snigermis | you categorized nvidia and asus drivers? |
| 15:50.01 | Snigermis | what about direcx. is that proper installed. |
| 15:50.09 | Snigermis | newer means DX10 |
| 15:50.18 | Snigermis | but as far as i know WOW is runing fx 9 still |
| 15:50.22 | elec29a | yes dxdiag says ok crysis is running nice |
| 15:50.44 | Snigermis | dxdiag have never lied? ;P its MS made ;) |
| 15:50.53 | Snigermis | anyway. might be addons. |
| 15:51.10 | elec29a | yes i testet without addon reinstall wow everything the same |
| 15:52.03 | Snigermis | you might have that dam shader problem |
| 15:52.11 | Snigermis | tried with particle denisy disabled |
| 15:52.34 | elec29a | i tried already with everything off |
| 15:52.40 | Cruciformer | read up on forums (do a google search) about the settings to set in the nvidia control panel. I know theres some issues with tripple buffering and issues with vertical sync and other settings. Do some judicious googling. |
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| 16:12.42 | A-KO | I haven't had any problems with triple buffering and vsync |
| 16:13.32 | A-KO | just reinstall your video drivers, and lower shadow quality all the way to the bottom |
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| 16:47.41 | shifuimam | i am jonesin' for someone to approve this addon...i want to see how many DLs it gets |
| 17:00.30 | shifuimam | [a tumbleweed drifts by...] |
| 17:05.25 | Kraps | great tumbleweed you got there |
| 17:06.12 | Kraps | shifuimam: what's your addon do? |
| 17:06.37 | shifuimam | Kraps: it allows you to specify pieces of your EQ to persist between sets |
| 17:06.46 | shifuimam | in RoM you can swap between two sets of EQ, since it uses a dual-class system |
| 17:07.04 | Kraps | EQ is... |
| 17:07.06 | shifuimam | there are vanity items you can buy in the cash shop like wings and special fancy-looking costumes |
| 17:07.07 | shifuimam | equipment |
| 17:07.36 | shifuimam | it's kind of a PITA to have to move items back into your bag, swap EQ, and re-equip whatever you moved, especially if you want to keep several items that way |
| 17:09.08 | shifuimam | of course, RoM's US login server is down right now, so it's not like it matters :( |
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| 17:17.44 | shifuimam | what the hell am i going to do if i can't play? |
| 17:22.31 | Dagmar | Well, there's always porn. |
| 17:24.06 | shifuimam | yeah, but i'm a girl and penises look funny |
| 17:24.14 | shifuimam | there's not nearly as much porn on the Internet for females |
| 17:27.49 | shifuimam | huh. i probably shouldn't have made the same name for this character on a different server |
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| 17:55.48 | cbreak | doesn't porn usually involve both genders? |
| 17:56.04 | cbreak | but either way, you could come to the true faith |
| 17:56.05 | cbreak | WoW! |
| 18:02.41 | Cairenn|afk | bleeter: ?????? |
| 18:03.07 | Ancu | cbreak: ummm, no. Gay and lesbian porn are the preferred these days. |
| 18:03.36 | cbreak | get a video cutting program then :) |
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| 18:15.13 | Thunder_Child | Clowns look funny, but it doesnt mean you dont enjoy them. |
| 18:15.35 | nevcairiel | clowns are not funny |
| 18:15.48 | Thunder_Child | i said 'look funny' |
| 18:16.04 | nevcairiel | clowns are not enjoyable either |
| 18:16.23 | nevcairiel | maybe for children |
| 18:16.50 | Fisker | hey nevcairiel |
| 18:19.41 | Shirik | amro: wtf you want |
| 18:20.17 | Shirik | the purpose of that message is so that when you ping me when I'm asleep, I can at least respond later |
| 18:20.17 | Shirik | but you failed miserably |
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| 18:20.41 | Fisker | Shirik ping |
| 18:20.42 | Shirik | Fisker : You sent me a contentless ping. This is a contentless pong. If you need something from me, please say what you need. Thanks. |
| 18:20.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: ping |
| 18:21.00 | Shirik | something tells me I'll have to put Fisker on ignore for that message |
| 18:21.22 | Fisker | np Shirik |
| 18:21.35 | Fisker | that's knida awesome though Shirik |
| 18:21.45 | Fisker | Shirik ping want to play pong? |
| 18:22.18 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: automated fails |
| 18:22.22 | Shirik | nevcairiel: Sorry I fell asleep |
| 18:22.26 | Shirik | but EDI took care of it I see |
| 18:22.34 | Fisker | he was mean to me :( |
| 18:22.38 | Fisker | he was all like "Fuck off" |
| 18:22.42 | nevcairiel | he dug out his own grave by repeating :P |
| 18:23.11 | Shirik | but I just realized EDI and eir don't get along |
| 18:23.12 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: Fuck off |
| 18:23.48 | Fisker | :( |
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| 18:36.45 | Dagmar | Would read better as "additional lunches can not be instanced." |
| 18:44.42 | foxlit | Hm, should get an addon that turns on shadows in the old world, and turns them off in northrend/outland |
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| 19:22.03 | DWSR | GOOD MORNING VEITNAM! |
| 19:22.08 | DWSR | VIETNAM* |
| 19:22.48 | Cairenn | hi DWSR |
| 19:23.13 | DWSR | How are you? |
| 19:23.19 | Cairenn | not bad, yourself? |
| 19:24.06 | DWSR | I'm alright |
| 19:24.12 | DWSR | 1 badge short of my T10 gloves. |
| 19:24.20 | DWSR | Which completes my awesome 4pT10. |
| 19:26.36 | cbreak | just got something from VoA. Guess what. |
| 19:27.46 | foxlit | a pony? |
| 19:34.05 | Shirik | In the middle of all of this football action and hype, we need a moment to relax: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcOh_8GDmsw |
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| 19:36.08 | Nechckn | WobWork btw.. had clickied on your link to the toon @ http://oglaf.com/ and that is one sick, sick author! |
| 19:36.27 | Nechckn | ^^ Most not SF work, for any other unsuspecting passers-by |
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| 19:41.07 | Kraps | Shirik: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe-DnbB_KF4 |
| 19:42.03 | Shirik | he's playing a guitar like a banjo... |
| 19:42.15 | Shirik | christ he's good |
| 19:42.16 | Shirik | wtf |
| 19:42.24 | Kraps | :) |
| 19:43.35 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 19:43.59 | Shirik | that was a bit insane |
| 19:44.46 | Cairenn | that is actually pretty cool, and yeah, he's good |
| 19:45.09 | Kraps | the political blog i follow link him a bunch |
| 19:45.16 | Kraps | links* |
| 19:50.29 | Thunder_Child | actually a banjo cant pull that off, it doesnt resonate as much |
| 19:53.49 | Fisker | sweet |
| 19:54.02 | Fisker | Hitler single-handedly fought WW2 |
| 19:54.21 | Fisker | godwin ftw |
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| 20:07.26 | Thunder_Child | i blame it on the girls |
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| 20:15.32 | Shirik | I blame Fisker on the girls |
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| 20:16.42 | Kraps | so a warrior tank needs only 5% hit? |
| 20:17.01 | NightHawkTheSane | 8% |
| 20:17.35 | NightHawkTheSane | as it says in the not that difficult to find page: http://www.wowwiki.com/Hit |
| 20:17.38 | Kraps | so what the hell is up with wow.com? no one is correcting them |
| 20:17.54 | NightHawkTheSane | wow.com is nothing more than hacks and idiots |
| 20:18.19 | Kraps | is puzzled |
| 20:18.35 | Kraps | in general, once you have 5% hit (163 hit rating) you probably have all the hit you need, since as a warrior tank you're using a one handed weapon |
| 20:18.38 | NightHawkTheSane | they're basically the shitty tabloid of the wow publication sector. |
| 20:18.52 | Kraps | If as a tank you wanted to completely guarantee that your specials would always hit (including Devastate, Shield Slam, Shockwave, Thunder Clap, Revenge and Heroic Strike) then you could gear up to 8% hit (262 hit rating), but it's not strictly speaking necessary and very hard to do before 25 man raiding gear. |
| 20:19.01 | Kraps | WHAT |
| 20:19.08 | Kraps | DIE |
| 20:19.13 | Thunder_Child | dont be, wow.com is like wikipedia with no rules, all wrong. |
| 20:20.22 | Kraps | they dont even add the yellow hit qualification in the new tanking 101 article! |
| 20:20.49 | NightHawkTheSane | ... because as has been said for well over a year, they're BAD> |
| 20:21.47 | Kraps | "If as a tank you wanted to completely guarantee that your specials would always hit" OF COURSE I WANT THEM TO ALWAYS FUCKING HIT |
| 20:21.59 | Kraps | jeez |
| 20:22.30 | Kraps | de-rages |
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| 20:25.59 | Shirik | bah |
| 20:26.03 | Shirik | they pushed it back, Thunder_Child: http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid=150&modelid=19092#ModelDetailAct |
| 20:26.06 | Shirik | Now they're saying April 2010 |
| 20:26.52 | Shirik | but omg that lens is sexy |
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| 20:28.50 | Thunder_Child | 2 months isnt that long of a wait |
| 20:29.03 | Shirik | gives me enough time to find the $$ for it, heh |
| 20:33.40 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 20:33.48 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 20:33.54 | ScytheBlade1 | hey Shirik |
| 20:33.59 | Shirik | hey ScytheBlade1 |
| 20:35.11 | Fisker | can i ping you anymore Shirik ? |
| 20:35.21 | Shirik | can I ping you anymore Fisker? |
| 20:35.25 | Fisker | can i ping you anymore Shirik ? |
| 20:35.35 | Shirik | can I ping you anymore Fisker? |
| 20:35.39 | Fisker | i hate you |
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| 20:40.21 | augustl | "You do not meet the requirements to enter this instance." When walking over the orb of command to enter bwl. |
| 20:40.24 | augustl | any takers? :) |
| 20:42.04 | foxlit | You didn't do the attunement? |
| 20:42.14 | Shirik | ^ |
| 20:42.19 | Shirik | it's pretty straightforward |
| 20:43.16 | mikma | fisker: ping |
| 20:43.25 | NightHawkTheSane | or you're not high enough level, or not in a raid group? |
| 20:43.46 | augustl | I'm attuned |
| 20:43.51 | augustl | I'm level 80, and in a raid group |
| 20:44.03 | mikma | you are missing the attunement |
| 20:44.21 | augustl | hopefully temporary |
| 20:44.25 | augustl | I'm attuned :) |
| 20:45.09 | augustl | instance servers are full, I guess |
| 20:45.24 | NightHawkTheSane | that seems unlikely |
| 20:45.33 | NightHawkTheSane | it usually gives an error that actually indicates that |
| 20:45.38 | mikma | http://matin.maapallo.org/kuvatuuppari/tenavat/1961/20100207.gif |
| 20:46.31 | augustl | when I right click it and <Place my hand on the orb>, I get "Additional instances cannot be launched." |
| 20:46.50 | augustl | takes 3-4 secs from I click to I get that message, so it's probably quering the server |
| 20:46.54 | NightHawkTheSane | -that- means the instance servers are full. |
| 20:47.02 | NightHawkTheSane | but not the first error you gave us. |
| 20:47.22 | augustl | the "you do not meet the requirements" message appears when I jump over the orb of command, though, which would normally cause you to enter |
| 20:47.30 | augustl | and this message comes immediately, so it sees like it is local |
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| 20:47.52 | augustl | seems* |
| 20:48.17 | mikma | auyou need the quest from the rare mob outside of ubrs/lbrs |
| 20:48.27 | augustl | I'm attuned :) |
| 20:48.38 | mikma | are you now |
| 20:48.44 | augustl | haha |
| 20:49.04 | augustl | so is 5 or so other ppl gathered around the bwl entrance |
| 20:49.54 | augustl | but apparently we aren't? :) |
| 20:53.24 | augustl | if someone in here would be arsed to go to BWL and try to enter, I'd give you lots of /hugs! |
| 20:55.01 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah. there's an incentive |
| 21:02.29 | mikma | haste: COOKIES! http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/space_invaders_cookies.jpg |
| 21:03.21 | DWSR | mikma: win |
| 21:04.14 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/bshit/zombiiieeee.jpg |
| 21:04.17 | DWSR | augustl: Someone in my VoA10 yesterday got that message. |
| 21:04.33 | DWSR | augustl: There's something wrong on the backend. It's a bug of somekind. |
| 21:04.41 | DWSR | augustl: Try dropping and reforming the group a couple of times. |
| 21:06.10 | augustl | ah |
| 21:06.39 | DWSR | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/ymca.jpg |
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| 21:09.43 | DWSR | http://kuvaton.com/browse/12086/captain_picard.gif |
| 21:10.34 | mikma | ttp://kuvaton.com/bshit/1st_person_shooter.png |
| 21:11.04 | DWSR | link fail |
| 21:11.54 | mikma | not the first time xterm leaves h out |
| 21:12.39 | DWSR | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/guide_to_the_internets.jpg |
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| 21:15.17 | DWSR | Not a fan of all of these non-english pictures. |
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| 21:15.42 | Iriel | Hm, oops - the harpoon quest in Jotumheum yields Lovely Charms |
| 21:17.08 | DWSR | http://media.fukung.net/images/16912/4a7eadc77370b91875863f9982a64b89.jpg |
| 21:17.10 | DWSR | Yes. |
| 21:17.12 | DWSR | Absolutely. |
| 21:17.13 | DWSR | Yes. |
| 21:18.06 | augustl | true |
| 21:18.18 | DWSR | http://media.fukung.net/images/16979/66eda0f2de1a156f24ec9078ac5400f8.png |
| 21:20.59 | DWSR | http://media.fukung.net/images/17036/03d32ad69789992f21d81f8cba692e6c.jpg |
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| 21:26.25 | Kraps | lol jack u mad bro? |
| 21:27.10 | DWSR | http://fukung.net/v/12790/suitable_for_drunk_driving.jpg |
| 21:27.16 | DWSR | and I'm done |
| 21:27.53 | mikma | dwsr: those actually work |
| 21:27.59 | mikma | dwsr: and tghey afre supercheap |
| 21:28.08 | DWSR | Mikk: FOR DRUNK DRIVING? |
| 21:28.10 | DWSR | Mikma* |
| 21:28.30 | mikma | dont know about that part, but might work too |
| 21:28.36 | ScytheBlade1 | It's new! It's different! It's made in china! |
| 21:29.18 | DWSR | Who was is that was claiming that the Cerberus Network in ME2 doesn't have a daily fictional news article? |
| 21:29.24 | DWSR | Because today's is about the fucking superbowl. |
| 21:29.56 | DWSR | LULZ. |
| 21:29.58 | DWSR | 69 yard pass. |
| 21:32.51 | Iriel | I dont think it's DAILY is it? |
| 21:37.24 | DWSR | seems to be daily, or at least bi-daily. |
| 21:38.18 | shifuimam | is there a way to use a for loop until it reaches a nil value? |
| 21:38.23 | shifuimam | e.g. if i don't know the number of times it should iterate |
| 21:38.47 | Iriel | while |
| 21:38.58 | Iriel | while (someVariable ~= nil) do -- stuff -- end |
| 21:39.26 | shifuimam | hrm |
| 21:39.44 | shifuimam | what i have is a function that gets the name of the texture applied to a buff on a player, like a mount or a heal over time or something |
| 21:40.02 | shifuimam | GetPlayerBuffTexture(i) where i is the ID number of the buff |
| 21:40.18 | shifuimam | so i don't have any of knowing how many buffs are on a character |
| 21:40.33 | Iriel | well youcan either do |
| 21:40.46 | Iriel | for i = 1, MAX_PLAYER_BUFFS do |
| 21:40.55 | Iriel | (Use whatever your game's equivalent variable is) |
| 21:41.00 | Iriel | and ignore nil ones |
| 21:41.03 | Iriel | or |
| 21:41.15 | Iriel | local i = 0; while (true) do i = i + 1; -- stuff -- end |
| 21:41.19 | shifuimam | yeah, that's the problem - there is no variable that i'm aware of for max player buffs |
| 21:41.21 | Iriel | and 'break' out of the lopp when you hit a nil |
| 21:41.27 | Iriel | OR |
| 21:41.27 | shifuimam | oh okay |
| 21:41.30 | Iriel | for i = 1, 99999 so |
| 21:41.32 | Iriel | do |
| 21:41.40 | Iriel | pick a big enough number you'll go past |
| 21:41.44 | Iriel | and again, break when you hit a nil |
| 21:41.48 | Iriel | the latter is probably your best bet |
| 21:41.51 | shifuimam | that would work....the IDs are consecutive, so when you drop a buff that was cast before another buff, the later-cast buff's ID goes down |
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| 21:49.23 | Pneumatus | http://media.fukung.net/images/5682/yap.gif |
| 21:49.41 | Pneumatus | i laughed a little |
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| 21:59.45 | Fisker | QQ |
| 21:59.51 | Fisker | 99% wipe on dreamwalker |
| 22:05.24 | foxlit | I see your wipe, and I raise you to a 100% wipe on sindragosa |
| 22:05.58 | ScytheBlade1 | ... for a second there, I thought Fisker was trolling Fisker |
| 22:06.06 | DWSR | LULZ |
| 22:06.14 | WobWork | Bizzaro world? |
| 22:06.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Regular world, for the one known as Fisker |
| 22:09.21 | DWSR | Ah Mythbusters. |
| 22:09.31 | DWSR | Keri is the only reason anyone ever watches it. |
| 22:09.36 | DWSR | She just flashed a bunch of goats. |
| 22:10.23 | NightHawkTheSane | pfft. mythbuster's is awesome. keri is just icing on the already delicious cake. |
| 22:10.38 | NightHawkTheSane | -' |
| 22:11.22 | DWSR | She still just flashed a bunch of goats. |
| 22:12.03 | ScytheBlade1 | needs a 24/96 sound card |
| 22:12.08 | ScytheBlade1 | AO: [pulse] 96000Hz 2ch s32le (4 bytes per sample) |
| 22:12.21 | WobWork | DWSR: ... to make them faint? |
| 22:12.21 | ScytheBlade1 | but only a 16/48 card :( |
| 22:13.53 | Gnarfoz | and only 9/16 ears |
| 22:13.58 | ScytheBlade1 | pfft |
| 22:14.10 | ScytheBlade1 | 48kHz vs 16kHz is VERY noticeable |
| 22:14.31 | Gnarfoz | of course |
| 22:14.36 | ScytheBlade1 | The "hey this is a computer" class at my uni had a portion on audio encoding |
| 22:14.40 | Gnarfoz | but that 16/24 is bits, not khz |
| 22:14.48 | ScytheBlade1 | not what I meant |
| 22:14.51 | ScytheBlade1 | 16 bit 48kHz |
| 22:14.57 | ScytheBlade1 | 16/48 |
| 22:15.11 | Gnarfoz | vs. 16/16 is an obvious difference |
| 22:15.20 | ScytheBlade1 | wait, what? |
| 22:15.24 | ScytheBlade1 | oh I misread |
| 22:15.35 | DWSR | WobWork: Yes. |
| 22:15.35 | Gnarfoz | and I'm hungry |
| 22:15.44 | Gnarfoz | feeds on Fisker's tears |
| 22:15.48 | ScytheBlade1 | I can still tell the difference :P |
| 22:16.11 | DWSR | Human ear can hear differences under 16/48 |
| 22:16.21 | DWSR | 24/96 is pushing it. |
| 22:16.30 | ScytheBlade1 | That bit with audio encoding took an audio clip and resampled it at any bit depth and frequency.. I could tell |
| 22:16.51 | ScytheBlade1 | DWSR: sure, but I'm not claiming my ears are better than 24/96, simply that they're better than 16/48 |
| 22:17.15 | DWSR | SB1: Probably. |
| 22:17.18 | DWSR | If you're in Uni, anyway. |
| 22:18.30 | ScytheBlade1 | In any case, I need a 24/96 card to tell |
| 22:18.36 | ScytheBlade1 | This card is 16/192 :/ |
| 22:18.43 | ScytheBlade1 | disappointing in many ways |
| 22:22.47 | Dagmar | Most people's computer speakers make much above 16/48 pointless |
| 22:22.56 | Dagmar | ...and for some, not even that |
| 22:24.11 | Arrowmaster | well a lot of software defaults to 16bit and most people would never even notice it |
| 22:24.14 | ScytheBlade1 | Which is why I'm wearing http://www.sennheiserusa.com/private_headphones_audiophile-headphones_005343 |
| 22:24.48 | Arrowmaster | and most audio sources are 48kHz or under |
| 22:25.19 | ScytheBlade1 | The Doom 3 opening title music is actually a 8 bit/22kHz ogg |
| 22:25.26 | ScytheBlade1 | (in game, not the movie) |
| 22:25.37 | DWSR | can't deal with Sennheiser. |
| 22:25.47 | DWSR | err, sorry, I'm thinking Bose. |
| 22:25.49 | DWSR | Sennheiser's alright. |
| 22:25.53 | DWSR | Bose is just bleh. |
| 22:33.09 | foxlit | Hm, they just had to make it *11* race/class combinations for the Fistful of Love. |
| 22:33.20 | foxlit | [petals sell in stacks of 5] |
| 22:33.40 | nevcairiel | of course, they like screwing with us |
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| 22:36.21 | DWSR | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4npUdfEmbQ&feature=player_embedded |
| 22:36.56 | DWSR | Is it bad that people who create parodies of these songs make better songs than the original that they're copying? |
| 22:37.15 | Shirik | wtf... |
| 22:38.01 | DWSR | s/copying/making fun of/ |
| 22:38.35 | Shirik | that's actually awesome |
| 22:41.36 | DWSR | yeah, i know |
| 22:41.39 | DWSR | Hence my question |
| 22:42.17 | Shirik | honestly, I'm not surprised. Today's music is quite bad. (Does that make me an old geezer?) |
| 22:42.38 | Shirik | the people that sing don't sing because they know music. They sing because they want to make money and look good. |
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| 22:43.23 | Shirik | there's rarely any meaning in songs these days, too |
| 22:43.34 | NightHawkTheSane | "today's music is quite bad" what? there might be more bad stuff now, due to the ease in which someone can make & publish music, but if you think bad stuff didn't exist before, you're crazy. and a LOT of good music is being made today |
| 22:43.54 | Shirik | ok it's being made, but it's not really popular |
| 22:44.02 | Shirik | and this is why I tend to stick to country, etc. |
| 22:44.06 | Shirik | Then again, even country is going down the drain |
| 22:44.10 | NightHawkTheSane | ... |
| 22:44.13 | NightHawkTheSane | genre has -nothing- to do with it |
| 22:44.21 | Shirik | fricking what's her face is turning country into pop |
| 22:44.23 | NightHawkTheSane | and popularity is a silly guage of quality |
| 22:44.36 | NightHawkTheSane | gauge? hmm. |
| 22:44.57 | Shirik | gauge is a stupid word |
| 22:45.10 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:45.46 | NightHawkTheSane | DWSR: it usually takes more skill to write a parody of a song, so its not really suprising, or even bad. |
| 22:46.27 | foxlit | takes a /different skill set/. |
| 22:46.37 | DWSR | Shirik: Taylor Swift? |
| 22:46.39 | Shirik | yes |
| 22:46.39 | Shirik | her |
| 22:46.54 | DWSR | NHTS: I'd argue it takes less skill because the only thing you have to do is replace the words. |
| 22:47.05 | NightHawkTheSane | foxlit: well, that too. But it'd still say that a good parody artist is generally more skilled than a good songwriter. |
| 22:47.06 | DWSR | NHTS: You don't need to come up with a melody or anything else. |
| 22:47.26 | DWSR | Though, you probably don't need to come up with anything else if you're a pop artist either. |
| 22:47.55 | Arrowmaster | you dont have to come up with anything period to be a pop artist |
| 22:48.03 | NightHawkTheSane | DWSR: thing is, you have to fit your new lyrics into an existing melody. Or alternately fit the exiting lyrics into a new melody. additional restrictions tend ot make the task harder. |
| 22:48.04 | Arrowmaster | its all written by other people |
| 22:48.21 | Shirik | what Arrowmaster said |
| 22:48.25 | DWSR | NHTS: In the case of popular music, 442 ad nauseum. |
| 22:48.35 | Shirik | which is where I came from |
| 22:48.36 | DWSR | Phrasing is VERY consistent. |
| 22:48.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: which is why i said songwriter, not artist/singer ;) |
| 22:48.40 | Arrowmaster | the same is true for probably half of country music |
| 22:48.41 | Shirik | (17:42:30) (@Shirik) the people that sing don't sing because they know music. They sing because they want to make money and look good. |
| 22:49.00 | DWSR | Shirik: But..but...bu.buu... *cries* |
| 22:49.05 | DWSR | I thought it was all about the music |
| 22:49.08 | DWSR | runs away |
| 22:49.24 | DWSR | That's why I listen to Jesterstep. |
| 22:49.30 | Shirik | don't get me wrong, that's an overgeneralization |
| 22:49.31 | DWSR | Because it's seriously all about being fapping rediculous |
| 22:49.44 | Shirik | but hell even Garth Brooks whose songs had a ton of meaning... he didn't even take his own advice |
| 22:50.05 | foxlit | recently bought a subscription for the fump. |
| 22:50.26 | foxlit | Now I get to filter through their 200+ song archive :/ |
| 22:50.38 | Shirik | fump? |
| 22:50.41 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 22:51.37 | NightHawkTheSane | you know, google's a wonderful tool. |
| 22:52.14 | Shirik | no it's not |
| 22:52.15 | Iriel | NightHawkTheSane: I do know that |
| 22:52.20 | Shirik | otherwise what are you guys for |
| 22:52.24 | foxlit | http://www.thefump.com/ |
| 22:52.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Shirik: I'm for making snarky remarks, obviously |
| 22:54.18 | WobWork | http://epicwinftw.com/2010/02/04/epic-win-photos-samurai-cat/ |
| 22:54.24 | WobWork | old but still good |
| 22:55.16 | DWSR | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samurai_Pizza_Cats <-- What the fuck? |
| 22:55.34 | DWSR | http://jeffdeboer.com/Galleries/CatsandMice/tabid/77/moduleid/433/viewkey/photo/photoid/112/Default.aspx |
| 22:55.38 | Gnarfoz | <DWSR> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4npUdfEmbQ&feature=player_embedded < what is that making fun of? |
| 22:56.16 | ScytheBlade1 | er, ignore that |
| 22:56.21 | DWSR | Gnarfoz: Really? |
| 22:56.27 | Gnarfoz | DWSR: yes |
| 22:56.28 | DWSR | You don't know? |
| 22:56.34 | Gnarfoz | no? |
| 22:56.40 | DWSR | O_O |
| 22:56.42 | WobWork | SPC were awesome |
| 22:56.44 | Gnarfoz | I'm not english/USish/whateverish it is you are |
| 22:56.49 | DWSR | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OKlzm6BQ8A |
| 22:56.59 | Gnarfoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:57.00 | WobWork | Parody of KE$HA's 'Tik Tok' by Midnight Beast Feat. ST£FAN.? |
| 22:57.03 | Gnarfoz | google translate to the rescue! |
| 22:57.13 | DWSR | lulz. |
| 22:57.14 | DWSR | Yeah. |
| 22:57.15 | NightHawkTheSane | you know, ever since shirik, i'm no longer shocked when someone isn't aware of some aspect of pop culture (no offense shirik :P) |
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| 22:57.46 | DWSR | NHTS: When he pointed out that he was not an American, I immediately understood. |
| 22:58.02 | Shirik | no offense? |
| 22:58.14 | Shirik | that's like saying "Shirik is retarded. No offense Shirik" |
| 22:58.15 | WobWork | DWSR: http://epicwinftw.com/2010/01/30/epic-win-photos-its-no-myth/ |
| 22:58.22 | WobWork | no no Shirik |
| 22:58.23 | Gnarfoz | lol the parody is indeed better |
| 22:58.30 | WobWork | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:58.32 | NightHawkTheSane | you're not retarded though. :P you just have the most amusing gaps in your common knowledge ;) |
| 22:58.47 | Gnarfoz | also, google-translated yt pages look funny |
| 22:58.49 | WobWork | You forgot the smilie |
| 22:59.01 | DWSR | WobWork: Holy shit. |
| 22:59.03 | DWSR | My background |
| 23:02.47 | Shirik | omfg |
| 23:02.54 | Shirik | someone hooked up Wikipedia's recent changes feed to a Star Wars scroller |
| 23:02.57 | Shirik | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/75/StarWarsRecentChanges.png |
| 23:03.17 | DWSR | lol |
| 23:03.31 | NightHawkTheSane | epic |
| 23:03.57 | Nechckn | That is pretty cool |
| 23:04.56 | WobWork | http://epicwinftw.com/2010/01/05/epic-win-photos-time-traveling-lincoln-saves-the-day/ is an -awesome- costume |
| 23:05.19 | WobWork | There's not much out there that can beat steampunk Abe for originality =P |
| 23:07.15 | DWSR | this is true |
| 23:07.32 | shifuimam | is there a comment block code? |
| 23:07.37 | shifuimam | instead of having to comment out each individual line |
| 23:07.40 | DWSR | nope. |
| 23:07.42 | DWSR | Not in Lua. |
| 23:07.49 | shifuimam | snap |
| 23:07.59 | DWSR | Inorite? |
| 23:08.04 | DWSR | Especially when you're trying to use Luadoc. |
| 23:08.20 | cbreak | --[[ This is a comment |
| 23:08.25 | cbreak | that spans multiple lines ]] |
| 23:08.25 | Pneumatus | --[[ .... ]] |
| 23:09.03 | WobWork | ahaha http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2009/12/9/129048828616704060.jpg |
| 23:09.48 | foxlit | but but but |
| 23:09.56 | foxlit | Shouldn't that be top-down, not left-to-right? |
| 23:12.10 | DWSR | Isn't Chinese rtl? |
| 23:13.17 | DWSR | http://www.i18nguy.com/temp/rtl.html |
| 23:13.40 | DWSR | Chinese is apparently LTR or TTB |
| 23:13.59 | shifuimam | cbreak / Pneumatus: so --[[ ... ]] can do muiltiple lines? |
| 23:14.06 | DWSR | yes. |
| 23:14.06 | shifuimam | (just want to make sure i understand properly) |
| 23:14.07 | DWSR | Apparently. |
| 23:14.10 | shifuimam | okay neat |
| 23:14.15 | DWSR | --[[ This is a rediculously |
| 23:14.17 | DWSR | multi-line |
| 23:14.18 | DWSR | comment |
| 23:14.20 | DWSR | block |
| 23:14.22 | DWSR | ]] |
| 23:16.11 | foxlit | "Chinese characters conform to a roughly square frame and are not usually linked to one another, so they can be written in any direction in a square grid. Traditionally, Chinese is written in vertical columns from top to bottom; the first column is on the right side of the page, and the text runs toward the left." |
| 23:16.25 | foxlit | Wikipedia clearly knows everything |
| 23:16.43 | shifuimam | if there is an OnShow function for a frame, is there a way to determine how that function was called" |
| 23:16.55 | foxlit | "In modern times, the familiar Western layout of horizontal rows from left to right, read from the top of the page to the bottom, has become more popular, especially in the [PRC] (mainland China); the government there mandated left-to-right writing in 1955.[19] The [Taiwan] followed suit in 2004." |
| 23:17.00 | shifuimam | e.g. if AreaMapFrame_OnShow() was called by a script or by the shift+m hotkey |
| 23:17.43 | Arrowmaster | no, not unless it passes different arguments in each case |
| 23:17.53 | shifuimam | oh, oka |
| 23:17.54 | shifuimam | y |
| 23:18.22 | Jerub | there's a funny story i read ages ago about chinese writing. |
| 23:18.57 | Jerub | two brothers lived next toa pretty girl, and one day the older, stronger, dumb brother forced the the younger weaker literate brother to write her a love note. |
| 23:19.27 | Jerub | so the younger brother wrote her a note that said "I am dumb" essentially. she got it, and immediately jumped all over the older brother enthusastically. |
| 23:20.42 | Jerub | because if you read it in the reverse direction, the phrase was a homonym for "I have a massive schlong" |
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| 23:26.14 | cbreak | Lua multiline comment syntax is complicated |
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| 23:26.22 | cbreak | --[[ ]] is one |
| 23:26.26 | cbreak | but there are variations |
| 23:27.07 | Cide | infinitely many, in fact |
| 23:27.43 | Cide | in theory, anyway |
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| 23:40.50 | Shirik | well |
| 23:40.55 | Shirik | infinitely many bounded by memory |
| 23:41.39 | nevcairiel | and sanity :P |
| 23:43.13 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 23:43.24 | Fisker | i look down upon thee |
| 23:43.53 | DWSR | you would. |
| 23:44.01 | Jerub | I had a bit of a cry on the weekend. |
| 23:44.07 | DWSR | why? |
| 23:44.12 | Jerub | new voa boss on 25man. 2 druid pieces dropped. |
| 23:44.28 | Jerub | druid gloves and druid pants, both the sanctified T10 pieces. |
| 23:44.31 | Jerub | i won the pants. |
| 23:44.43 | Fisker | i'm in your pants |
| 23:44.46 | Jerub | and only after i won did i realise i'd rolled on balance pants. |
| 23:44.51 | Jerub | and i'm feral/resto |
| 23:45.16 | Fisker | owned |
| 23:45.19 | Fisker | i was in voa 25 |
| 23:45.19 | nevcairiel | those bosses should simply drop tokens :P |
| 23:45.25 | Fisker | and none of my set pieces dropped from anyone |
| 23:45.43 | Jerub | i'm over healing. tanking is so much eaiser. |
| 23:45.48 | Jerub | tempted to just go feral/feral |
| 23:45.57 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1: ping |
| 23:46.02 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: pong |
| 23:46.19 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1: i'm free for the rest of the day if you want to give it a go |
| 23:46.37 | ScytheBlade1 | hm, sure, give me a few |
| 23:46.47 | Thunder_Child | roger |
| 23:48.24 | Shirik | welp, I tested it |
| 23:48.34 | Shirik | Went as high as I could with the =s in the comment |
| 23:48.35 | Shirik | 268435456 |
| 23:48.35 | Shirik | not enough memory |
| 23:49.46 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 23:49.49 | Fisker | you're as cold as ice |
| 23:49.58 | Thunder_Child | Fisker |
| 23:49.58 | Shirik | I'm willing to sacrifice our love |
| 23:50.15 | Thunder_Child | Fisker- > Fisker |
| 23:51.16 | Dagmar | poetry fail |
| 23:51.21 | Dagmar | s/our love/you, chump/; |
| 23:51.24 | Dagmar | MUCH more effective. |
| 23:52.00 | Dagmar | Damn the SuperBowl. I wanted a cheesesteak delivered. |
| 23:52.07 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: rebooting |
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| 23:53.29 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1: copy |
| 23:54.03 | Fisker | hey Thunder_Child |
| 23:54.10 | Fisker | i wanted to sleep |
| 23:54.21 | licio | strange behaviour: editmacro("mymacro", nil, nil, str) where str contains multiline macro commands seperated by \n... sometimes "says" part of the macro in the chat window. any ideas why? |
| 23:54.24 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: i'm not keeping you up |
| 23:54.48 | Dagmar | Lack of proper escape sequences |
| 23:55.39 | licio | thought so, Dagmar, what would a proper escape sequency look like? |
| 23:55.39 | Fisker | you are Thunder_Child |
| 23:56.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: name to invite? |
| 23:56.05 | Dagmar | licio: Probably however many backslashes it takes to make it stop happening |
| 23:56.11 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: i know i am Thunder_Child |
| 23:56.21 | licio | like \\n instead of \n? |
| 23:56.24 | Fisker | no u Thunder_Child |
| 23:56.30 | Dagmar | Yep |
| 23:57.05 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1: TC.thunder_child i think, let me check |
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| 23:57.31 | ScytheBlade1 | actually, I'd have to play with my firewall to host, I bet |
| 23:57.34 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1: yes |
| 23:57.45 | ScytheBlade1 | invite Sbozinator |
| 23:58.25 | licio | no, \\n just adds \n to the macro :( any other ideas for multiline macros? |
| 23:59.05 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1: how? |
| 23:59.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: I was hoping you would know, lol |
| 23:59.39 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1: i made one, join blorb pw: bl0rb |
