| 00:01.39 | Dagmar | Of course, gamers would read that lyric entirely differently. |
| 00:01.56 | Dagmar | They'd drop the 's' on 'bananas' to be sure. |
| 00:02.24 | Lopeppeppy | Most gamers can't even find their banana, much less anyone else to "tally" it for them. |
| 00:02.30 | alestane | I think you're universalizing the occasional confusion between gamers and juveniles. |
| 00:02.33 | Dagmar | This is why they need help with it. |
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| 00:05.28 | ScytheBlade1 | So question |
| 00:05.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Who knows much about home furnaces? |
| 00:05.48 | alestane | My answer: Not I, said the 'lock. |
| 00:06.10 | Dagmar | "They're a good place to store bodies, provided you clean them regularly." |
| 00:06.30 | Dagmar | It's always that leftover skull of femur that got lodged in the corner that gets people into trouble |
| 00:06.34 | Dagmar | s/of/or/; |
| 00:06.37 | ScytheBlade1 | We didn't clean our for something like a decade |
| 00:07.01 | ScytheBlade1 | Apparently the combustion chamber has overheated and expanded to the point where it blew the rivets off and burned holes through the chamber itself |
| 00:07.04 | ScytheBlade1 | Multiple holes |
| 00:07.11 | Dagmar | You got lucky then |
| 00:07.33 | ScytheBlade1 | Oh, and the entire thing is rusted over |
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| 00:07.38 | ScytheBlade1 | And the back side is covered in mold |
| 00:07.55 | WobWork | perfect time to enter the channel |
| 00:08.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Yup. |
| 00:08.16 | ScytheBlade1 | (The furnace that heats my house.) |
| 00:08.36 | WobWork | stopped working and now you have fuzzybutt? |
| 00:08.41 | ScytheBlade1 | No |
| 00:08.42 | Dagmar | Yeah you got lucky. |
| 00:08.45 | ScytheBlade1 | We can flip a switch and turn it on |
| 00:08.49 | Dagmar | It *could* have just overheated and blown up |
| 00:08.56 | ScytheBlade1 | They made me sign a waiver saying that if we flip it on and it blows up |
| 00:08.59 | Dagmar | ..or actually caught fire. They can do that |
| 00:09.00 | ScytheBlade1 | They aren't responsible |
| 00:09.08 | ScytheBlade1 | Incidentially, I sleep directly next to the furnace |
| 00:09.14 | ScytheBlade1 | About 15 feet through a thin door |
| 00:09.16 | Dagmar | You probably won't feel a thing then |
| 00:09.24 | Lopeppeppy | I think it needs replacing, dear. |
| 00:09.32 | Lopeppeppy | A lot. |
| 00:09.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes, that's what *two* companies said last year |
| 00:09.42 | ScytheBlade1 | This is now company number three. |
| 00:09.50 | Dagmar | Have you ever smoked a briar pipe? |
| 00:09.56 | ScytheBlade1 | Can't say I have |
| 00:10.17 | Dagmar | Welll, basically carbon builds up inside the thing and protects it from the harsh heat of steaming/burning tobacco |
| 00:10.26 | Dagmar | In a pipe, this is a good thing. |
| 00:10.34 | Dagmar | In a furnace, it *doesn't work that way* |
| 00:11.04 | Dagmar | You're supposed to get that stuff cleaned out every so often so it doesn't just encourage heat to spread into the everything, as opposed to going out of the furnace and into your house. |
| 00:11.12 | ScytheBlade1 | That isn't quite what happened it |
| 00:11.14 | ScytheBlade1 | *here |
| 00:11.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Rather, the coil got so caked over in crap that the heat had no where to go. |
| 00:11.44 | ScytheBlade1 | At which point it overheated and popped rivets and burned holes through metal. |
| 00:12.10 | Dagmar | Sounds exactly like what happened to me |
| 00:12.36 | Dagmar | Maybe mold instead of carbon, but that's why you're supposed to get them cleaned every so often |
| 00:14.07 | Thunder_Child | idiots |
| 00:16.07 | Lopeppeppy | ScytheBlade1. listen to the companies, kk? |
| 00:16.57 | WobWork | we don't want you incinerated =( |
| 00:17.05 | ScytheBlade1 | I'm not the owner of the house |
| 00:17.07 | ScytheBlade1 | My dad is. |
| 00:17.27 | ScytheBlade1 | When I told him what was going on, quote, "They're just trying to tell a furnace." |
| 00:17.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, yes, yes they are. |
| 00:17.33 | ScytheBlade1 | ... |
| 00:17.34 | ScytheBlade1 | BECAUSE THIS ONE IS ABOUT TO EXPLODE. |
| 00:19.00 | Lopeppeppy | Three companies is not a coincidence. |
| 00:19.29 | Kraps | arent there any *normal* women on the Normandy? |
| 00:19.34 | ScytheBlade1 | Nope @ Lopeppeppy |
| 00:20.51 | ScytheBlade1 | The entire thing is rusted out too |
| 00:20.57 | ScytheBlade1 | The camera they shoved up in there was neat. |
| 00:20.59 | Lopeppeppy | Drag him over and put him nose-down into the rust. |
| 00:21.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Well, the furnace is off now |
| 00:21.22 | ScytheBlade1 | Having a frozen house will motivate him, I believe |
| 00:21.34 | WobWork | until he turns it on |
| 00:21.42 | Lopeppeppy | Does he live there too? 'cause he'll just turn it on. |
| 00:21.47 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, it is a simple electrical switch |
| 00:21.48 | ScytheBlade1 | And yes. |
| 00:21.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Yes he will. |
| 00:21.52 | ScytheBlade1 | :/ |
| 00:21.55 | ScytheBlade1 | (boom!) |
| 00:22.20 | WobWork | PS "Just trying to tell a furnace"? |
| 00:22.26 | WobWork | what does that mean? |
| 00:22.27 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
| 00:22.30 | ScytheBlade1 | Note the quotes |
| 00:22.31 | Lopeppeppy | Tie him to the furnace, next to the rust, ask if he wants you to turn it on and see if he dies? |
| 00:22.32 | ScytheBlade1 | He wanted it repaired |
| 00:22.36 | ScytheBlade1 | Not replaced |
| 00:22.41 | WobWork | oh sell? |
| 00:22.45 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah |
| 00:22.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Er sorry |
| 00:22.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Sell, yes |
| 00:25.10 | WobWork | His penny pinching pecuniary predilictions will prospectively pre-empt a painfully pernicious punishment =( |
| 00:25.25 | ScytheBlade1 | 19:08 < ScytheBlade1> Incidentially, I sleep directly next to the furnace |
| 00:25.26 | ScytheBlade1 | 19:08 < ScytheBlade1> About 15 feet through a thin door |
| 00:25.26 | ScytheBlade1 | =] |
| 00:26.07 | Thunder_Child | WobWork |
| 00:26.10 | Thunder_Child | GDIAF |
| 00:26.27 | WobWork | ^^ |
| 00:26.53 | Thunder_Child | thats what you get for p'ing all over my screen |
| 00:29.16 | ScytheBlade1 | I'll just add that I'm glad I have an electric blanket. |
| 00:29.38 | WobWork | Peculiarly, I present prodigal presentiment, proactively propelling the penultimate pallatives, progulmating in passionately proposed proclamations |
| 00:30.00 | ScytheBlade1 | stabinates WobWork |
| 00:30.00 | ScytheBlade1 | afk |
| 00:30.30 | WobWork | this V for Vendetta villification brought to you by the letter 'P' |
| 00:31.35 | WobWork | /s/vilification/vociferation/ |
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| 00:33.20 | Thunder_Child | also brought to uoi by the letter 'WobWork is a dead man' |
| 00:34.38 | WobWork | And see, this is why I need to educate you, if you think that's a letter =P |
| 00:37.18 | Thunder_Child | and see, this is why you need to be educated about not making asumptions. you assume the letter is from the english language |
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| 00:49.14 | WobWork | and see, this is why you need to be educated about making assumptions, because I did not assume -anything-. I merely proposed that you believed that was a letter. |
| 00:49.56 | WobWork | and if you give me which actual language in which that is a letter, I'll forward it to Sesame Street for their next production. |
| 00:50.40 | Lopeppeppy | Brought to you by the letter 2 and the number down. |
| 00:51.09 | WobWork | Lopeppeppy: actually reminds me of the 'Stoned Big Bird' clip |
| 00:51.27 | Lopeppeppy | Don't you feed my bird no pot brownies! |
| 00:52.18 | Thunder_Child | WobWork: but wether you admit it or not, you were infact making an assumption. you can deny it all you like but we both know it's true |
| 00:52.30 | NightHawkTheSane | would you two just get a room already |
| 00:52.31 | WobWork | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy2CmRznyNQ |
| 00:52.53 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane: we are exebitionists |
| 00:53.00 | Thunder_Child | err... |
| 00:53.06 | Thunder_Child | well, spelled correctly |
| 00:53.21 | Lopeppeppy | with numbers? |
| 00:53.31 | WobWork | Nope, I wasn't assuming anything. I was pointing out that if you believed that was a letter, you needed education. |
| 00:54.18 | Thunder_Child | WobWork: how so, within the confines of this discussion i can simply make up a letter that means that and it is perfecly valid |
| 00:54.19 | WobWork | Lopeppeppy: exh1b1t10n15ts? |
| 00:54.34 | KarlKFI|work | I'm assuming you guys are nubs |
| 00:54.52 | WobWork | KarlKFI|work: you know what happens when you start assuming |
| 00:54.56 | Thunder_Child | WobWork: you can sub 3 for the e and 7 for the t |
| 00:55.04 | WobWork | You make an ass out of 'u' and Ming |
| 00:55.10 | Thunder_Child | iir my leet speak class |
| 00:55.22 | KarlKFI|work | when i start assuming chuck noris backs me up. |
| 00:56.23 | WobWork | Thunder_Child: but that doesn't change my statement in any way |
| 00:56.34 | WobWork | -you- were assuming that by that statement I was saying you needed education |
| 00:56.58 | WobWork | I was merely assigning the requirement for education upon your decision |
| 00:57.22 | NightHawkTheSane | KarlKFI|work: two rs in norris. |
| 00:57.22 | Thunder_Child | actually WobWork, i didnt assume that at all...seeing as how i mostly ignored it |
| 00:57.32 | WobWork | see, that's why you need education =P |
| 00:57.43 | Thunder_Child | why because i ignore you? |
| 00:57.48 | Thunder_Child | then most of the world would need it |
| 00:57.51 | WobWork | Pay attention fool =P |
| 00:58.05 | KarlKFI|work | NightHawkTheSane: YOU are assuming I meant THAT "norris" |
| 00:58.35 | NightHawkTheSane | i assume nothing, i merely state facts. |
| 00:58.43 | Thunder_Child | uh oh WobWork, we are even worse than Fisker, we seem to be viral |
| 00:59.21 | KarlKFI|work | liek that virus from Fringe that WANTS to infect people? |
| 00:59.21 | WobWork | and highly contagious =P |
| 00:59.59 | Thunder_Child | well more like a virus that makes you feel great, right up untill the moment you die from it |
| 01:00.19 | KarlKFI|work | mmm not quite the same |
| 01:01.31 | Jerub | sigh. |
| 01:01.33 | Jerub | what's defcap again? |
| 01:01.43 | Jerub | is looking at someone else's tank and they're not a druid so i have no idea. |
| 01:01.45 | NightHawkTheSane | 450 defense |
| 01:01.51 | Thunder_Child | isnt it like 5 and change? |
| 01:01.54 | WobWork | 435 |
| 01:02.01 | WobWork | 440 for raid |
| 01:02.04 | Jerub | for raid? |
| 01:02.06 | Jerub | okay, cool |
| 01:02.07 | NightHawkTheSane | is it 440? |
| 01:02.15 | WobWork | I'm fairly sure, yeah |
| 01:02.15 | alestane | Anyone who happens to want some brain exercise is welcome to check this chunk of code I wrote: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/132506 |
| 01:02.17 | Thunder_Child | i thought it was 425 for 5-man |
| 01:02.24 | NightHawkTheSane | no, definitly higher than that |
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| 01:03.46 | WobWork | Critical Hit immunity for a level 80 player against a raid boss occurs at 540 Defense and requires a defense skill of 140 (689+ def rating) from gear to achieve. Critical hit immunity at level 80 for a heroic dungeon is 535 Defense, because mobs in a level 80 heroic 5-man are never higher than level 82. |
| 01:04.02 | WobWork | er yeah, -5-40 >< |
| 01:04.09 | NightHawkTheSane | ahah! |
| 01:04.10 | Thunder_Child | it was 5... |
| 01:04.12 | Jerub | ah, thankyou |
| 01:04.13 | Thunder_Child | -_- |
| 01:04.17 | WobWork | NightHawkTheSane, damn you, confused me =P |
| 01:04.28 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 01:04.29 | ScytheBlade1 | http://torrentfreak.com/lost-season-6-premiere-cammed-on-the-beach-100202/ |
| 01:04.40 | NightHawkTheSane | youd think id remember that |
| 01:04.40 | Jerub | wowwiki.com says this in the most confusing way. |
| 01:04.43 | NightHawkTheSane | having like two tanks. |
| 01:04.53 | WobWork | well, you had it right... just transposed |
| 01:04.58 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
| 01:06.32 | Thunder_Child | wouldnt transposed be 450 and 540? |
| 01:06.46 | WobWork | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:06.54 | WobWork | and it is 540 |
| 01:07.01 | WobWork | for raids |
| 01:07.14 | Thunder_Child | oh, i was looking at his second comment |
| 01:07.41 | WobWork | he got confused by my getting confused by him starting with a 400 number =P |
| 01:08.20 | ScytheBlade1 | Clocksource tsc unstable (delta = -1111184197 ns) |
| 01:08.28 | ScytheBlade1 | Something tells me my computer clock is borked. |
| 01:08.37 | Dagmar | ...or it's just misreading |
| 01:08.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Yeah, that actually comes out to a whopping 1.111 seconds. |
| 01:11.01 | Dagmar | If you see that message repeatedly, worry |
| 01:12.05 | Lopeppeppy | You've got a lot of borked things in your life right now. What did you do to earn the karmic imbalance? |
| 01:12.17 | alestane | This has to be one of the stranger Facebook groups I've ever heard of: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Open-fridge-nothing-Freezer-nothing-Might-as-well-try-the-fridge-again/261508529210?ref=nf |
| 01:12.19 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: at least all of my computers are working. |
| 01:12.21 | ScytheBlade1 | (junx) |
| 01:12.23 | ScytheBlade1 | *jinx |
| 01:12.39 | ScytheBlade1 | alestane: guilty |
| 01:12.49 | alestane | (No, I'm not joining) |
| 01:12.57 | Dagmar | ScytheBlade1: Machines which change their clock speed for powersaving *cause* those messages |
| 01:12.59 | ScytheBlade1 | I would if I used facebook |
| 01:13.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Dagmar: this is a VM. |
| 01:13.44 | Dagmar | Intersting. Well, if it's trying to do speedstep stuff on a virtual CPU it's likely it'll cause the same messges |
| 01:13.50 | Dagmar | If you get them OMGLOTS then you should worry |
| 01:14.02 | Dagmar | ...but it should be well-nigh impossible. |
| 01:14.12 | Dagmar | What it's telling you IIRC is that it's switching to a different method of watching the clock |
| 01:21.44 | ScytheBlade1 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=22749002962&sid=1&pageNo=10#193 |
| 01:21.55 | ScytheBlade1 | "It's why there are hundreds of thousands of players logged into the game in the U.S. right now rather than arguing on the forums over the 10 people who killed the Lich King in the last 24 hours." |
| 01:22.13 | Lopeppeppy | Yes! Must download patch overnight! |
| 01:22.33 | ScytheBlade1 | That comment alone almost makes me want to login |
| 01:22.35 | ScytheBlade1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:24.15 | Lopeppeppy | Zarhym kicks ass, even when he's sick. |
| 01:25.58 | frontendloader | bah |
| 01:26.09 | frontendloader | has anyone noticed WoW using substantially more CPU time? |
| 01:26.19 | frontendloader | after this minor patch |
| 01:27.05 | Dagmar | THey must have him on the non-dairy antibiotics or something |
| 01:27.11 | frontendloader | I'm not sure whats going on here, 120fps while idle, but once fighting starts in a 25m raid I'm dipping sub 20 |
| 01:27.16 | frontendloader | even sub 10 |
| 01:27.37 | Lopeppeppy | For some of us, taking antibiotics makes us sicker than whatever we were taking them for. I can sympathize with him eating baby food. |
| 01:27.54 | Dagmar | Erythromycin was never exactly my friend either |
| 01:29.09 | Lopeppeppy | That gives me migraines. |
| 01:29.22 | Arrowmaster | ScytheBlade1: the host machines cpu changing clockspeed can mess with a VMs timings too |
| 01:29.35 | Lopeppeppy | Keflex only makes me nauseous, dizzy, throw up, etc. It's supposedly better. |
| 01:29.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Arrowmaster: I figured |
| 01:29.54 | Dagmar | It always affected me slightly less than emycin, so probably so |
| 01:30.09 | Dagmar | I know I had to take them both on full stomachs or get some tummyaches |
| 01:30.15 | Bruners | laff, anyone here playing castle age on facebook? |
| 01:30.47 | Bruners | found a money glitch :P |
| 01:31.05 | Dagmar | Frankly, the insomnia that the antihistamines they gave me was a _far_ bigger deal |
| 01:31.33 | Dagmar | There's nothing worse than chronic sinusitis than chronic sinusitis and being awake for four days straight for no particular reason.; |
| 01:32.38 | Arrowmaster | 4 days? |
| 01:32.49 | Arrowmaster | ive done that before |
| 01:32.59 | Dagmar | Yeah, serious insomnia sucks large |
| 01:32.59 | ScytheBlade1 | Dagmar: I disagree. Try a three week migraine. |
| 01:33.09 | Jerub | Dagmar: are you taking lots of drugs that are only a few atoms different to speed? |
| 01:33.33 | Dagmar | Jerub: No, I just have an abnormal body chemistry, like a *lot* of ADHD people. |
| 01:33.36 | Jerub | oh yeah! try a few minor bruises from going gokarting on the company dollar! ;) |
| 01:33.55 | WobWork | Bruners: howso? |
| 01:34.29 | Bruners | WobWork: play with the stash and retrieve buttons, click them alot and fast :P |
| 01:34.32 | Dagmar | Something like Isochlor might cause some people to only be slightly edgy, or get "medicine head". For me, it means sleep isn't happening at the normal dosage |
| 01:35.07 | Dagmar | The easy test is no longer readily available, now that they've taken yellow #5 off the market. |
| 01:35.07 | WobWork | http://imgfave.lg1x8z.simplecdn.net/image_cache/1262307816371696.jpeg |
| 01:35.16 | Bruners | made $475,116,527 into $1,425,349,581 in 10 clicks more or less just now |
| 01:35.22 | Dagmar | When Hawaiian Punch was made with that it was better than crack |
| 01:36.33 | Dagmar | Well, maybe not better. It used to make hyperactive kids absolutely apeshit |
| 01:40.40 | Bruners | and $1,425,349,581 into 5,701,398,324 |
| 01:40.59 | WobWork | terrible =P |
| 01:41.07 | WobWork | time to buy the world |
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| 01:41.38 | Bruners | ib4 getting banned from castle age :P |
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| 01:44.23 | ScytheBlade1 | heh. It's kinda neat getting notices from my school, completly unrelated, that my current employer is hiring.. |
| 01:47.29 | Dagmar | So long as you don't see your own job in there |
| 01:48.12 | A-KO | so |
| 01:48.26 | A-KO | how do you all handle empowered vortex on blood princes 25? :/ our guild is failing hardcore at this fight..... |
| 01:49.33 | foxlit | Spread out, eat cake? |
| 01:49.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Dagmar: I do actually. But that happens when you work for a company sized just over 30k. |
| 01:54.00 | KarlKFI|work | wish they'd hire me some smarter coworkers |
| 01:54.12 | Lopeppeppy | wish they'd fire me some dumb bosses. |
| 01:54.23 | foxlit | psssh, employment. |
| 01:54.33 | ScytheBlade1 | I have some pretty smart coworkers and bosses. It's the people two levels above them that are pretty dumb. |
| 01:54.50 | ScytheBlade1 | I came VERY close to replying to this email chain asking if they had even bothered reading my email that I sent out initially. |
| 01:55.21 | KarlKFI|work | mmm dumd boss too |
| 01:55.32 | foxlit | "Most other auto greed addons did not support disenchanting or they improperly used select()." << improperly using select() is a crime. |
| 01:55.45 | ScytheBlade1 | foxlit: I'll select (1) you |
| 01:55.49 | ScytheBlade1 | err, select(1) you |
| 01:55.55 | Lopeppeppy | CRIME! |
| 01:56.23 | Arrowmaster | how exactly did they improperly use select()? |
| 01:56.34 | foxlit | It does not state. |
| 01:59.13 | Lopeppeppy | Kept it out past curfew? |
| 02:00.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Hm. According to this, I have deleted an email, as I know I got it previously. |
| 02:01.02 | ScytheBlade1 | But, it is not in my inbox, and I cannot find it. |
| 02:01.02 | ScytheBlade1 | :/ |
| 02:01.33 | Lopeppeppy | If it's deleted, check trash? |
| 02:01.43 | ScytheBlade1 | Did. |
| 02:01.44 | Bruners | WobWork: Gold Stored: $136,833,559,776 :PP |
| 02:01.57 | Lopeppeppy | ScytheBlade1, you're hosed my friend. |
| 02:02.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Bruners: too bad you got your units wrong. |
| 02:02.29 | frontendloader | uhu there is definitely an addon misbehaving in my UI |
| 02:02.39 | frontendloader | causing CPU usage to ride around 90-100% during boss combat |
| 02:02.47 | Jerub | Bruners: what currency is that? |
| 02:02.59 | frontendloader | I want to say it is MSBT or Bigwigs |
| 02:03.04 | Bruners | Jerub: its castle age money |
| 02:03.07 | frontendloader | or grid |
| 02:04.01 | Arrowmaster | frontendloader: are you doing any addon profiling or just going off of your OS cpu usage? |
| 02:04.31 | foxlit | "Toravon will not be affected appropriately by Area-of-Effect damage spells." << This bug fix sounds like the reverse. |
| 02:04.45 | NeoTron | s/not/now/ |
| 02:04.54 | NeoTron | lol |
| 02:05.03 | NeoTron | anyway "will now be" is probably what they meant |
| 02:05.38 | Lopeppeppy | *kiss kiss* Night, normal people. |
| 02:05.42 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 02:05.43 | ScytheBlade1 | night |
| 02:06.25 | Arrowmaster | i think i need to pull my speaker system apart and put it back together |
| 02:06.54 | Arrowmaster | its making a constant noise while the power is on |
| 02:07.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Mine is doing the same |
| 02:07.12 | ScytheBlade1 | I need to replace the power adapter |
| 02:07.15 | ScytheBlade1 | I may just toss it instead |
| 02:07.57 | Arrowmaster | i should probably do the same if i could afford it |
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| 02:23.16 | NightHawkTheSane | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1m8a4Jl4ZI&feature=player_embedded |
| 02:23.27 | NightHawkTheSane | (actually sfw) |
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| 02:32.55 | ScytheBlade1 | awesome |
| 02:32.56 | ScytheBlade1 | http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/4095/gifbinreallifemariocart.gif |
| 02:37.56 | kdtresh | where's my turtleshell? |
| 02:38.43 | Thunder_Child | on a turtle |
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| 02:40.01 | ScytheBlade1 | http://creativestudios.com/unsecured-webcam-motivation/ |
| 02:40.02 | kdtresh | i guess the definition of ownership has changed then >< |
| 02:44.08 | Nechckn | Is that not the boat which the big-boss-man purchased? |
| 02:58.21 | WobWork | ScytheBlade1: Remi! |
| 02:58.52 | WobWork | Remi Gaillard |
| 02:59.24 | WobWork | http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=remi+gaillard&search_type=&aq=0&oq=remi+ |
| 03:00.37 | Antiarc | Any electrical engineers about tonight? |
| 03:00.45 | Antiarc | I have to replace a DC adapter for a device that is specced at 12v, 200mA |
| 03:00.50 | Antiarc | If I have an adapter providing 12v, 300mA, is that going to fry it? |
| 03:00.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: go poke Shirik |
| 03:00.55 | Antiarc | My understanding is that the device will only draw as much amperage as it needs, but I'd like to be sure before I buy something. |
| 03:01.01 | Shirik | w@t |
| 03:01.11 | ScytheBlade1 | Antiarc: there you go. =] |
| 03:01.15 | Shirik | that's fine |
| 03:01.25 | Antiarc | How about an adapter providing 500mA? |
| 03:01.26 | Shirik | the adapter doesn't specify how much current it gives, it only specifies its maximum output |
| 03:01.30 | Antiarc | Got it. |
| 03:01.40 | Antiarc | I just need to make sure it's not providing more voltage than the device takes? |
| 03:01.44 | Shirik | right |
| 03:01.55 | ScytheBlade1 | throws 240V Antiarc's way |
| 03:01.59 | Antiarc | Easy enough. Now the challengine lies in finding a tip-negative adapter in my pile o' adapters! |
| 03:02.07 | Antiarc | easily 90% of them are tip-positive :( |
| 03:02.17 | Shirik | who the hell puts negative on the tip |
| 03:02.22 | Antiarc | Wacom, apparently |
| 03:05.07 | Antiarc | Well, my (piano) keyboard adapter provides 12v, max of 1.5 amps, tip negative. |
| 03:05.18 | Antiarc | Before I plug it in, that sounds okay? |
| 03:05.54 | Antiarc | Nevermind, it doesn't fit, it's specialized :V |
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| 03:20.37 | Arrowmaster | if i get any more ps3 games im fucking getting these things http://www.amazon.com/PS3-Dual-Triggers-Playstation-3/dp/B001IAOEXU |
| 03:21.03 | Arrowmaster | triggers on that controller are so fucking bad |
| 03:21.14 | Antiarc | I have three power adapters, but they're all tip-positive, and I need tip negative :( |
| 03:21.31 | Arrowmaster | Antiarc: cut and splice! |
| 03:21.43 | Antiarc | I have a utility knife and a roll of electrical tape :V |
| 03:21.46 | Antiarc | Also |
| 03:21.50 | Antiarc | It's awesome that in order to fix this |
| 03:21.53 | Antiarc | I have to reverse the polarity |
| 03:21.57 | Antiarc | brb, putting on visor |
| 03:22.12 | Arrowmaster | plug in the AC backwards |
| 03:22.55 | Antiarc | I actually have on converter here that doesn't have its polarity labeled |
| 03:22.59 | Antiarc | And I can't find my multimeter :( |
| 03:23.55 | Arrowmaster | touch it to your tongue and see if you can tell |
| 03:24.03 | Antiarc | heh |
| 03:24.41 | Kemayo | I'm starting my daughter out young: http://www.flickr.com/photos/kemayo/4328742305/ >_> |
| 03:25.03 | NightHawkTheSane | Kemayo: teach her to do your fishing for you |
| 03:25.36 | Kemayo | It's the plan! |
| 03:25.39 | NightHawkTheSane | also, obligatory "awww... so cute" |
| 03:25.56 | Kemayo | "No Mr. Pinchy yet? You're grounded!" |
| 03:28.39 | Jerub | i have a guildmate whose 9 year old plays |
| 03:28.51 | Jerub | they have 2-3 accounts for the household, and they play each others toons. |
| 03:29.24 | Jerub | we joke about him groundhing his son and making him mine saronite. |
| 03:31.24 | Arrowmaster | we had a guildmate whose son would level/gear up our alts for us sometimes, although it was mostly his father doing it, one of them would farm a low level instance on a max level character with their own character or alt on follow and we would jump in the instance on alts sometimes |
| 03:32.18 | ccox | Far Gone: trying to get the last bit of salad out of the bowl, only to realize after a few minutes that it is painted on the bowl.... |
| 03:32.30 | Arrowmaster | lol |
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| 03:56.33 | Iriel | lo mp |
| 04:02.51 | Trela | breaths deep, prepares to freak out. |
| 04:03.42 | Jerub | Arrowmaster: heh, multiboxing done with children. win. |
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| 04:33.47 | kd3 | sigh. my "public" email has gone from zero phishing emails ever to ~3 a day now |
| 04:34.50 | Kraps | gad, ensidia killed LK 25m but there was a bug/exploit |
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| 04:38.13 | Kraps | rage incoming |
| 04:41.07 | Jerub | buys stock in Q key manufacturers. |
| 04:43.34 | Kraps | the mmo-champ post has over 200 posts already |
| 04:44.29 | Jerub | crap, too late. |
| 04:44.32 | Jerub | is buying into a bubble. |
| 04:46.22 | Kraps | you can still cash in, look and the dungeons & raids forum |
| 04:46.52 | Jerub | is it bad that my bookmark is for the bug report forum? |
| 04:47.34 | Kraps | if you're not a debugger... |
| 04:48.15 | Dagmar | <-- not caring who killed LK first because they were all pounding him on the PTR for some time now |
| 04:48.25 | kd3 | er, no |
| 04:48.28 | kd3 | LK was never on the ptr |
| 04:48.35 | Dagmar | <-- still not caring |
| 04:48.55 | Kraps | ^ fails at life |
| 04:49.03 | Kraps | jk |
| 04:49.12 | Jerub | so what's the hack? saronite bombs + lich king = awesome ? |
| 04:49.22 | Dagmar | nothing useful will be said about it on the forums becasue of all the asshats who will holler "o so they beet it this quick means blizz maks everythenng ezmode now" |
| 04:50.18 | Dagmar | What would impress me is if more of these people actually demonstrated mastery of a spellchecker. |
| 04:50.55 | Kraps | Dagmar: no its "blizz favors them cuz they fixed it AFTER the kill" |
| 04:51.07 | Dagmar | Kraps: Yeah more idiotic nonsense there |
| 04:51.20 | Dagmar | More parents need to *BEAT* their kids |
| 04:51.20 | Jerub | also, "facts will bare out" |
| 04:51.23 | Kraps | Jerub: the bombs fix a platform or somesuch |
| 04:54.50 | WobWork | "The siege damage of the bombs was causing the Frozen Throne platform to rebuild, which greatly decreases the difficulty of the encounter." |
| 04:55.10 | WobWork | and from Ensidia: "Yes it seems this bug does relate to our kill. We had no idea that our Rogues using Saronite Bombs in their rotation (as they always do) was causing it and thusly it occured every try we did. Short version, we're not going to stop trying the boss when all we are doing is playing our normal game. It would be nice if these kinds of things, much the same as Holy Wrath on Anub, were tested before release." |
| 04:55.21 | WobWork | rogues use saronite bombs in their rotation? |
| 04:55.30 | Jerub | apparently! |
| 04:55.32 | WobWork | wow, it's been a while since I played my rogue, it seems =P |
| 04:56.16 | kd3 | "we had no idea" uh-huh |
| 04:56.22 | Kraps | apparently they know about the bug and powerleveled eng on some toons, or so people say |
| 04:56.28 | ZorbaTHut | it's one of those minmaxing things that ridiculous players do. they're not on the GCD and so you can actually get a minor DPS boost off it |
| 04:56.34 | kd3 | something like 5 more rogues with engi than usual for this fight |
| 04:56.34 | Kraps | s/know/knew |
| 04:56.40 | ZorbaTHut | engineering is actually a pretty damn good pve profession right now |
| 04:57.05 | Dagmar | THat sounds hollow and dishonorable. |
| 04:57.51 | WobWork | I like it on my druid |
| 04:57.54 | Kraps | Dagmar: hence the rage |
| 04:58.01 | WobWork | I always put out a mechanical sheep for pulls |
| 04:58.02 | Iriel | Wouldn't the armory show a PLvL'd skill? |
| 04:58.11 | ZorbaTHut | unless there's actually evidence that they exploited it intentionally, I don't see any reason to believe they did. I've been meaning to add it to my prot warrior rotation. |
| 04:58.30 | Iriel | I can't remember if there are any distinct achievements for non-core skills |
| 04:58.33 | WobWork | but wait. Just saronite bombs? |
| 04:58.39 | WobWork | cause the other bombs have a cast time |
| 04:58.49 | Dagmar | It's because they apparently do siege damage I'll bet |
| 04:58.59 | ZorbaTHut | wob, yeah, 1000-1500 damage, not on the GCD, instant |
| 04:59.00 | WobWork | Iriel: only the first time |
| 04:59.05 | WobWork | huh |
| 04:59.11 | WobWork | I should go make some =P |
| 04:59.17 | ZorbaTHut | with rogues it wouldn't even matter if it were on the GCD since rogues are energy-capped, not gcd-capped |
| 04:59.18 | WobWork | although aiming bombs is painful |
| 04:59.28 | Dagmar | It's got a 1m cooldown |
| 04:59.30 | ZorbaTHut | they've got a 10yd blast range - just slam hotkey, click your feet |
| 04:59.36 | WobWork | as long as it doesn't deform me |
| 04:59.37 | Dagmar | Somehow I don't think that would generally be considered part of a "rotation" |
| 04:59.54 | ZorbaTHut | dagmar, why not? I use my cooldowns regularly |
| 05:00.05 | ZorbaTHut | a free 1150-1500 damage every minute isn't anything to complain about |
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| 05:03.25 | Dagmar | 1500 free damage once a minute just doesn't seem worth it on a boss kill |
| 05:03.34 | ZorbaTHut | what do you mean, "worth it"? |
| 05:03.41 | ZorbaTHut | what's the cost that you're weighing it against? |
| 05:04.20 | Jerub | 1500 every minute is 25 dps |
| 05:04.51 | Dagmar | So it's about like having a level 7 noob in your pocket then |
| 05:05.04 | Dagmar | highly effective if you have to deal with critter trash |
| 05:05.05 | Jerub | that's a 0.5% increase in dps at the 5000dps level. |
| 05:05.15 | Dagmar | I'm ashamed for them |
| 05:05.24 | Dagmar | ...even if they don't have the balls to be ashamed about it |
| 05:05.28 | ZorbaTHut | according to my spreadsheet, that's the equivalent of about 15 strength for me |
| 05:05.41 | ZorbaTHut | so . . . yeah, I'd take a nearly-free 3/4 of an epic gem |
| 05:06.22 | Dagmar | I wonder how many of their other fights they have logs for up. |
| 05:06.46 | ZorbaTHut | sheesh I actually hadn't realized it was such a huge difference |
| 05:06.47 | Dagmar | 'cuz one might be suspicious enough to go look and see just how often their engineers bother with saronite bombs |
| 05:06.56 | ZorbaTHut | that's the same value I'd get from upgrading *four* rare gems to epic |
| 05:07.06 | ZorbaTHut | 800 gold of value, for pocket change |
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| 05:07.27 | ZorbaTHut | time to go make a few stacks of bombs :D |
| 05:08.08 | Jerub | engineering is one ofthose skills i've not used yet |
| 05:08.19 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/12/22748963186-disabling-saronite-bombs.html |
| 05:08.21 | Dagmar | Mainly it lets you turn money into damage |
| 05:08.34 | ZorbaTHut | jerub, engineering is pretty dang fun. it's mechanically quite good now |
| 05:08.36 | Dagmar | Not a lot of money, but there you have it just the same |
| 05:08.45 | ZorbaTHut | and it comes with a lot of toys like the wormhole, Jeeves, and the parachute cloak |
| 05:08.50 | ZorbaTHut | dagmar, so do enchants and gems |
| 05:08.59 | ZorbaTHut | and any other consumable, for that matter |
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| 05:09.09 | Kraps | It is not our policy to discuss disciplinary action for exploitation. merkmerkmerk |
| 05:10.37 | Dagmar | It'll be obvious enough if a certain bunch of people aren't seen online for several days |
| 05:10.53 | Iriel | or if they lose some achievements? |
| 05:10.56 | Dagmar | Yep |
| 05:13.25 | Kraps | ima watch the cinematic nao |
| 05:18.13 | ZorbaTHut | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm03136FTI4 haha. oh, goons. |
| 05:23.20 | kd3 | oh geez I remember that |
| 05:23.57 | WobWork | also the rocket boots |
| 05:24.15 | WobWork | the enchants aren't bad either, the webbing for the gloves are a decent armour boost |
| 05:24.23 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, my main is eng/bs |
| 05:24.28 | ZorbaTHut | eng is really quite competitive at this point |
| 05:24.39 | WobWork | and really, it's not that hard to grind up |
| 05:24.46 | WobWork | you may have issues at mithril |
| 05:24.53 | ZorbaTHut | it's cheaper than BS |
| 05:24.56 | WobWork | but -every- profession that uses ore has problems at that stage =P |
| 05:25.17 | WobWork | I ground up Engi in a few days |
| 05:25.18 | ZorbaTHut | in fairness, throwing gold into a bottomless pit is cheaper than BS |
| 05:25.25 | WobWork | ZorbaTHut: this is true |
| 05:25.39 | WobWork | only thing more expensive than BS is probably enchanting =P |
| 05:25.50 | ZorbaTHut | enchanting's profitable if you're smart |
| 05:25.57 | ZorbaTHut | vellums are glorious |
| 05:26.15 | kd3 | gah. damn it, I hate watching frapses of wow. I keep trying to move the camera |
| 05:26.16 | ZorbaTHut | (smart and patient ;) ) |
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| 05:27.08 | ZorbaTHut | almost time to pull skinning off my rogue and replace it with engineering |
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| 05:30.06 | kdtresh | bah, i have to remember not to accept group invites when i'm queued in lfg |
| 05:30.53 | Dagmar | You'd rather play with strangers, or you just don't want anyone you know seeing you? |
| 05:31.05 | kd3 | accepting group invites removes you from the queue |
| 05:31.23 | kdtresh | ^^ |
| 05:31.31 | Dagmar | Yeah but... um... isn't the problem _solved_ by the fact that you got into a group? |
| 05:31.43 | Iriel | Dagmar has a point |
| 05:31.49 | kdtresh | i should have specified |
| 05:31.54 | WobWork | depends on why you get into the group |
| 05:31.55 | kd3 | not really. it could be something random like 'lfg threat/cit' |
| 05:31.59 | WobWork | if you're trading something... |
| 05:32.02 | kdtresh | i shouldn't accept group invites for ENCHANTING when i'm in lfg |
| 05:32.11 | Dagmar | Ah |
| 05:32.25 | kdtresh | if my tank/healer was an enchanter it wouldn't matter |
| 05:32.46 | kdtresh | but as a lock, it takes a while, and clicking "accept" costs me about 15 mins, on average |
| 05:33.06 | Dagmar | Hmm... a bit slower in your bg than mine then. |
| 05:33.17 | kd3 | isn't it about 15min for dps everywhere? |
| 05:33.20 | kd3 | sure feels that way in ruin |
| 05:33.22 | Dagmar | We seem to average about 8 minutes for single or duo dps |
| 05:33.25 | kdtresh | avg wait time for dps right now is 14 mins, according to the lfg thingy |
| 05:33.33 | Kraps | for best use of wow in a song and the most wow-related terms in a song i nominate http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q0tb2uCVmw&feature=player_embedded |
| 05:33.40 | kdtresh | on cenarius, alliance |
| 05:34.18 | Dagmar | I don't know if the auto-tune in that is parody or just bad taste |
| 05:35.14 | Kraps | y so srs |
| 05:35.26 | Dagmar | Hypocracy makes my nose itch |
| 05:36.03 | Dagmar | I'm looking at that video thinking, "Hmm... pasty-faced skinny geeks are making fun of a pasty-faced fat geek. What's the point? It's not like any of them are getting laid." |
| 05:36.48 | Dagmar | White kids acting like "hard brothas" also just generally pisses me off |
| 05:37.47 | Kraps | ya ur 2 srs |
| 05:38.04 | kdtresh | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm63Gmaxlho |
| 05:38.14 | Dagmar | i gotta get the hell out of the house on sunday for industrial/goth night and get some of this anger out of my system |
| 05:38.30 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:38.32 | Kraps | wut |
| 05:38.35 | Kraps | no |
| 05:38.36 | Dagmar | Yeah we have to share |
| 05:38.50 | Dagmar | Not like ther'es not just massive crossover there anywya |
| 05:39.15 | WobWork | Along with the huge change to allow skipping, there's other smaller changes. I lowered the delay after the first boss dies until the undead waves start again. Arthas no longer physically runs from the front to the inn, he just teleports there. Arthas runs to the bookshelf instead of walking. |
| 05:39.21 | WobWork | hyzzah |
| 05:40.05 | Dagmar | So now we can hop and skip on our way to Stratholme? |
| 05:40.09 | Dagmar | Okay. |
| 05:40.22 | kdtresh | i like the actionbar full of moonfire XD |
| 05:40.40 | Dagmar | kdthresh: Yep. That one's much better |
| 05:41.39 | Dagmar | Kraps: Seriously, the one thing both groups definitely have in common is a wardrobe and a hate of people |
| 05:41.58 | Dagmar | Mostly they get along a lot better than you'd expect |
| 05:42.07 | Kraps | not really into that |
| 05:48.36 | cog|away | http://friendlyatheist.com/2010/01/25/polyamory-is-wrong/ |
| 05:49.11 | ZorbaTHut | ugh I'm doing literally half the damage in this group |
| 05:49.34 | WobWork | kdtresh: old song, but still a good one |
| 05:49.37 | cog|away | knows the feeling |
| 05:50.29 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: you're tanking aren't you? |
| 05:50.53 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: I really don't mind that, tbh. but if one of those poor dps shits gives me lip, I let them know wha tI think. |
| 05:51.04 | WobWork | Druuuuu! and watch me superspam that ho |
| 05:51.06 | ZorbaTHut | jerub, no, DPSing on my low-level rogue |
| 05:51.17 | ZorbaTHut | which also means I have no AoE worth talking about |
| 05:51.20 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: oh, nuts. |
| 05:51.21 | Jerub | :( |
| 05:52.42 | ZorbaTHut | the tank (named "loltree", natch) ended up doing about 25%. one dps doing 15%, one dps doing 7.5%, healer chipping in for 2.5% :D |
| 05:53.35 | Jerub | :( |
| 05:53.44 | Jerub | who was party guide? |
| 05:53.52 | ZorbaTHut | the tank, I think |
| 05:58.38 | Dagmar | cog: Where the hell can I buy that shirt? |
| 05:59.00 | cog|away | looks shopped to me... you could make it yourself on cafepress imo |
| 05:59.08 | Dagmar | This is true |
| 05:59.27 | Dagmar | Ah wait, Zazzle sells it |
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| 06:03.04 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: When I tank I just let DPS die so that I can do the highest DPS. |
| 06:03.07 | DWSR | but I'm not 80 yet. |
| 06:03.54 | WobWork | Jerub: why would the party guide make any difference? |
| 06:04.41 | Jerub | WobWork: when i'm 'party guide' i have no problem stopping and telling someone how to play or what they're doing wrong for a dungeon mechanic. |
| 06:05.31 | Jerub | i.e. telling a warlock that in fact, hellfire isn't the best spell to use. :P |
| 06:05.53 | DWSR | I do that all the time. =\ |
| 06:05.55 | DWSR | Well. |
| 06:06.04 | DWSR | When someone's performance isn't acceptable. |
| 06:06.21 | WobWork | I just tell them that if they wish to commit suicide, I will not stand in their way. |
| 06:06.41 | WobWork | With warlocks for me, if it's self inflicted, they can also heal themselves =P |
| 06:07.04 | Jerub | meh, i'm no expert. |
| 06:07.20 | WobWork | also, if you hellfire to the point where you get oneshot, then it's your fault |
| 06:07.20 | Jerub | i just told the warlock it was a high threat move, and if he was to use it, he should very carefully watch his threat. |
| 06:07.57 | kdtresh | i've never used hellfire in a normal instance |
| 06:08.28 | WobWork | heh, the last time I saw hellfire being used purposefully was on the panther boss in ZG |
| 06:08.47 | Jerub | this was in SM:GY+1 |
| 06:08.57 | Jerub | i can't remember what the instance is called ... |
| 06:09.17 | WobWork | Catherdral? |
| 06:09.18 | WobWork | Armory? |
| 06:09.29 | Jerub | has anyone else tried to queue for a specific dungeon with the LFD interface while in a LFD group? |
| 06:09.38 | WobWork | yes? |
| 06:09.43 | Jerub | we had a GY group and wanted to do the next instance, and we couldn't queue for it. |
| 06:09.56 | Jerub | we think it may've been because the SM instances are all kinda sorta the same instance sorta kinda. |
| 06:10.08 | WobWork | oh that I don't know |
| 06:11.07 | kdtresh | gy, library, armory, cathedral? |
| 06:11.21 | Jerub | must've been library |
| 06:11.21 | kdtresh | i think that's the order |
| 06:11.33 | kdtresh | library has the scarlet key at the end |
| 06:11.45 | kdtresh | gy and library don't need it |
| 06:11.52 | Jerub | my warrior is level 32.95 |
| 06:12.02 | Jerub | yeah, i got the key, so it must've been library. |
| 06:12.24 | WobWork | hm, maybe they don't let you in if you don't have the key |
| 06:12.33 | WobWork | which is stupid, cause only one person needs it |
| 06:12.47 | Jerub | no, it was going from GY to Lib we couldn't do. |
| 06:12.56 | Jerub | the two keyless ones. |
| 06:14.06 | Jerub | could've been anything the errors from the LFD interface are shit. |
| 06:14.12 | Jerub | (nonexistant to useless) |
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| 06:28.49 | ccox | Ackis recipe list - wow, haven't seen that many errors from a single addon in a long time |
| 06:30.36 | ccox | sigh, and outfitter has a bunch as well |
| 06:33.55 | ccox | hmm, something isn't right with my wow client |
| 06:35.23 | ccox | seems to be confused about some addon changes - like a cache is messed up |
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| 07:06.58 | krka | wtf, enter "is it" in google search field and look at the suggestions |
| 07:09.20 | Thunder_Child | "We've detected suspicious activity on your Google Account. Please create a new password to continue using your account." |
| 07:09.22 | Thunder_Child | >.< |
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| 07:11.08 | awweaver | Hello |
| 07:23.12 | awweaver | i think i just figured out my whole problem of my adodn not saving to a saced variable i had the word local in the declaratin... |
| 07:23.38 | cog|away | d'oh |
| 07:24.49 | awweaver | yea most of the stuff i figure makes me feel stupid |
| 07:25.01 | awweaver | like i had a : instead of a ; the toher day... |
| 07:26.23 | cog|away | another good reason not to use ;s ;) |
| 07:26.38 | awweaver | i am so used to doing java... |
| 07:27.20 | cog|away | yeah, i was pretty entrenched in curly brace & semicolon languages before i learned Lua |
| 07:27.59 | Arrowmaster | starts the curly brace placement fight back up |
| 07:28.15 | awweaver | for some reason it list twice now.. |
| 07:28.20 | awweaver | lists* |
| 07:28.57 | awweaver | i have a list function in my addon it lists the JerkList and now that i fixed it to be persistent it lists the list twice... |
| 07:30.19 | cog|away | Arrowmaster: i'm so on the fence about brace placement, i randomly switch back and forth between them every couple projects or so |
| 07:30.50 | Arrowmaster | i was just fucking around, i dont use curly brace languages |
| 07:30.58 | awweaver | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/132521-7lc1 heres the function... |
| 07:31.17 | nevcairiel | cog|away: as long as you dont switch in-project |
| 07:31.23 | cog|away | word |
| 07:31.49 | Thunder_Child | best way to make code, have someone else write it for you. |
| 07:31.50 | awweaver | i think i go it |
| 07:31.56 | cog|away | QWORD |
| 07:32.05 | Arrowmaster | i would switch in-project depending on what level the code is at |
| 07:32.06 | awweaver | fixed.... |
| 07:32.36 | awweaver | gah i feel stupid, should have known better |
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| 07:33.21 | cog|away | should go to sleep in -1.5 hours |
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| 07:33.57 | zenzio | since time only travels one way, you have to wait until tomorrow |
| 07:36.02 | awweaver | Who says u cant go back in time? |
| 07:36.13 | awweaver | i personally want to go 88mph... |
| 07:36.29 | zenzio | most accepted laws of the universe |
| 07:37.24 | awweaver | "accepted" |
| 07:37.34 | cog|away | W |
| 07:37.35 | cog|away | T |
| 07:37.35 | cog|away | F |
| 07:37.37 | cog|away | http://celebrities.ninemsn.com.au/blog.aspx?blogentryid=585857&showcomments=true&rss=yes |
| 07:37.54 | awweaver | "I reject you reality and substitute my own" -- Adam Savage |
| 07:38.18 | Wobin | In -this- house, we -obey- the laws of thermodynamics! |
| 07:38.50 | cog|away | Pedophiles of the world rejoice imo |
| 07:39.45 | awweaver | Ok wow gives me an eero for ling 5 of this pastey http://wowuidev.pastey.net/132522 |
| 07:39.54 | zenzio | got to wonder if it's just sibling envy, of if it's the parents pushing her |
| 07:40.22 | Wobin | probably the latter |
| 07:40.28 | Arrowmaster | shes not even the main one doing it, its her friend |
| 07:40.59 | Wobin | awweaver, do you want JLIgnoreList[1] or JLIgnoreList[i]? |
| 07:41.13 | awweaver | i |
| 07:41.19 | awweaver | doh |
| 07:44.29 | krka | that code just looks weird |
| 07:45.33 | awweaver | my code always does |
| 07:47.03 | awweaver | the move function stil doesnt work... |
| 07:47.25 | awweaver | heres the pastey, just instead of a 1 being there is an "i" |
| 07:49.13 | awweaver | or not... |
| 07:49.21 | awweaver | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/132522 |
| 07:49.53 | krka | it's like seeing a one year old trying to put together a lego model and just banging the parts together |
| 07:50.04 | krka | string.sub(i, 4)? what are you even trying to do there? |
| 07:50.08 | awweaver | what my code? |
| 07:50.10 | krka | string.sub(name, 4)? |
| 07:50.31 | awweaver | its to separate the slash commands\ |
| 07:50.57 | awweaver | so instead of remove name its just the part after remove |
| 07:51.31 | awweaver | oops i just found something, not the biog problem but its a bug |
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| 07:56.13 | DWSR | cog|away: Not only that, but Noah Cyrus is fucking hideous. |
| 07:56.17 | krka | so if name is "TheDude" you look for "Dude" in the list and then trigger som unknown function with the value "1", "2", ... depending on where in the list it is? |
| 07:56.34 | krka | DWSR: she's 9, you're not supposed to find her hot |
| 07:56.39 | awweaver | im in the process of getting rid of the string.sub commands, found a lzier way of doinf that... |
| 07:56.44 | krka | in fact, that would be pretty disturbing |
| 07:57.10 | DWSR | krka: Just because she's hideous doesn't mean I'm judging her on whether or not I would have sex with her. |
| 07:57.14 | DWSR | I've seen cute kids before. |
| 07:57.17 | DWSR | She is fucking ugly. |
| 07:57.18 | krka | no wait, string.sub(1, 4) -> "" |
| 07:57.26 | DWSR | Like someone beat her face in with an ugly stick. |
| 07:57.41 | DWSR | Then curb stomped her with some army boots. |
| 07:57.45 | DWSR | Like...just >.< |
| 07:57.46 | Wobin | http://community.livejournal.com/dear_gnome/492412.html?nc=10&style=mine |
| 07:57.48 | Wobin | holy crap =P |
| 07:58.00 | Wobin | druid tank that tanked in 'elf form' =P |
| 07:58.12 | krka | awweaver: what is the point of converting 12345 -> "45" |
| 07:59.02 | awweaver | IM not sure what ur trying to say...i understand its just im confused |
| 08:00.12 | krka | your code is wrong because you dont understand what your code does |
| 08:00.16 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 08:00.19 | krka | which makes it even harder for anyone else to understand it |
| 08:00.42 | awweaver | I understand what string.sub does and as far as i know its nessacary for what im doing... |
| 08:01.01 | krka | i dont think you do |
| 08:01.08 | Wobin | why is it necessary? |
| 08:01.25 | krka | can you describe what you're trying to accomplish? because it's not obvious from the code |
| 08:01.36 | awweaver | to make it so when i call say the add function it doesnt add "add name" to the list |
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| 08:02.20 | awweaver | does thi smake sense? |
| 08:02.25 | awweaver | this |
| 08:02.49 | Wobin | sure. But string.sub(i, 4) ? |
| 08:02.56 | Wobin | what do you think that does? |
| 08:03.10 | Thunder_Child | i have to agree with DWSR, that girl is fugly |
| 08:03.14 | awweaver | splits i at the index 4 |
| 08:03.15 | krka | it's like you're describing a table but end up with four sticks and a big rock tied together with string |
| 08:03.26 | Wobin | yes, but 'i' is a number from 0 to whatever |
| 08:03.31 | Wobin | so, for example.. 3 |
| 08:03.36 | Wobin | you're calling string.sub(3,4) |
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| 08:03.56 | Wobin | which takes the first four characters of the string "3" |
| 08:03.58 | awweaver | i thought strings in lua started at 1? |
| 08:04.14 | Wobin | er takes from 4th to the end |
| 08:04.25 | Wobin | yeees |
| 08:04.31 | Wobin | and? |
| 08:04.32 | awweaver | thats exactly what i want |
| 08:04.38 | Wobin | you're not quite getting it |
| 08:04.44 | Wobin | what's the fourth character in the string "3" |
| 08:04.59 | awweaver | there isnt one... |
| 08:05.03 | Wobin | (hint. There -is- no fourth character" |
| 08:05.05 | Wobin | ) |
| 08:05.09 | Wobin | So, why are you trying to get it? |
| 08:05.11 | awweaver | ... |
| 08:05.45 | Wobin | you're using : JLIgnoreList.remove(string.sub(i, 4)); |
| 08:05.50 | krka | you should learn basic programming before starting on wow addons |
| 08:06.00 | Wobin | i is a number from 0 to the size of the array |
| 08:06.02 | awweaver | ok my bad, ive changed it now, it is now string.sub(name, 7) |
| 08:06.13 | Wobin | ok |
| 08:06.14 | Wobin | now |
| 08:06.20 | Wobin | why the fourth character of each name? |
| 08:06.43 | Wobin | why return, for example, "aver" for your name? |
| 08:06.57 | awweaver | its not the 4 char of each name, its the first remove has 6 characters, and including the space is 7 |
| 08:07.34 | krka | frail design ftw |
| 08:07.42 | Wobin | yes, you see, this is not evident in any way from the code |
| 08:07.52 | Wobin | so I'm not particularly surprised it doesn't work |
| 08:07.54 | awweaver | .... |
| 08:07.57 | krka | avoiding local meaningful variables ftw |
| 08:08.22 | Wobin | cause like... -what- first remove? |
| 08:08.33 | Wobin | and where is this 7 character string? |
| 08:08.40 | Wobin | and -what- is this seven character string? |
| 08:08.48 | awweaver | what? |
| 08:08.55 | Wobin | That's precisely my point |
| 08:09.01 | Thunder_Child | exactly |
| 08:09.09 | krka | right! |
| 08:09.27 | Wobin | In short, -noone- here knows wtf you're trying to do =P |
| 08:09.32 | Wobin | so we can't exactly help with errors |
| 08:09.43 | awweaver | the string is the one passed in when a use types "/jl remove name" |
| 08:10.09 | awweaver | "remove name" gets passed into the function |
| 08:10.27 | Wobin | so... it checks for "ove Wobin"? |
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| 08:10.56 | Wobin | I really really really advise you check exactly what each of these functions do |
| 08:11.02 | Wobin | before you use them willy nilly |
| 08:11.06 | DWSR | really really really. |
| 08:11.10 | DWSR | really really really |
| 08:11.12 | awweaver | ... |
| 08:11.23 | Wobin | cause string.sub does not do what you believe it does |
| 08:11.23 | awweaver | bangs head on desk |
| 08:11.28 | DWSR | ad nausium(sp)? |
| 08:11.28 | batbot | DWSR, nothing found. |
| 08:11.46 | DWSR | ~Wobin++ |
| 08:11.52 | Arrowmaster | !api string.sub |
| 08:11.52 | lua_bot | Documentation for 'string.sub' can be found at http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-string.sub |
| 08:12.39 | Wobin | and if you're still learning the language, don't depend on side effects to get your job done |
| 08:13.05 | krka | i suggest using a matcher: string name = input:match("/jl remove (%S+)") |
| 08:13.08 | DWSR | Aren't there libraries to handle all of this shit for you anyway? |
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| 08:13.18 | DWSR | Like, an Ace3 library or something? |
| 08:13.21 | krka | oops use local instead of string :p |
| 08:13.34 | Arrowmaster | krka: problem is thats case sensitive |
| 08:13.53 | Arrowmaster | DWSR: yeah AceConsole-3.0 does it all |
| 08:14.06 | smcn | lower(input)? |
| 08:14.14 | smcn | er, tolower |
| 08:14.32 | Arrowmaster | input:lower() |
| 08:14.39 | smcn | yeah |
| 08:14.40 | DJJeff | in Curse.com Client when I goto Addon Settings Cleaner in the tools menu; I hit delete all; they go away I refresh and they didn't delete; could this be a folder/file permissions error somewhere? |
| 08:14.42 | smcn | that |
| 08:14.57 | Fisker | btw lol @ ensidia |
| 08:15.04 | zenzio | Fisker: how so? |
| 08:15.05 | Fisker | "But our rogues uses saronite bombs in their rotaitons!11" |
| 08:15.07 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 08:15.13 | Fisker | That's what? 20 dps? |
| 08:15.20 | Fisker | suuuuuuuuuuure |
| 08:15.26 | DWSR | If you're Ensidia, it matters, I'd imagine. |
| 08:15.57 | Wobin | 1500/min =) |
| 08:16.05 | DWSR | However, it does cause me to =\ |
| 08:16.23 | DWSR | bbiab. |
| 08:16.39 | Wobin | ~1500/60 |
| 08:16.40 | purl | 25 |
| 08:16.44 | Wobin | Fisker, close! |
| 08:16.48 | Wobin | but 5 more dps! |
| 08:16.55 | Wobin | that could make -all- the difference! |
| 08:20.10 | Fisker | i disagree |
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| 08:22.22 | Fisker | Blizzard should check (if they do log combat events that is) if they used saronite bombs anytime before LK |
| 08:22.26 | Fisker | and ban them if they didn't |
| 08:22.27 | Fisker | :3 |
| 08:25.31 | DWSR | They didn't ban Exodus for exploiting yogg 0 |
| 08:25.57 | DWSR | why should they ban Ensidia? |
| 08:26.31 | DWSR | by the way. |
| 08:26.39 | DWSR | Amanda Bynes posed for Maxim???!? |
| 08:26.47 | Wobin | tch |
| 08:26.51 | Wobin | try to keep up, DWSR |
| 08:27.01 | DWSR | I don't really, normally. |
| 08:27.08 | DWSR | But I was just looking at the magazine rack |
| 08:27.12 | DWSR | And I always look to see who's on the cover. |
| 08:27.16 | DWSR | Amanda Bynes? Really? |
| 08:27.24 | DWSR | Is she like...even legal? |
| 08:28.35 | DWSR | And Ford's new Microsoft Sync is fail. |
| 08:28.41 | Wobin | 24 |
| 08:28.53 | Wobin | or maybe 23 |
| 08:28.56 | DWSR | Holy shit, that makes me feel old. |
| 08:31.05 | Fisker | haha |
| 08:31.35 | Fisker | "We hope you feel better now that we've taken actions against the players in accordance with our policies" |
| 08:31.40 | Fisker | suggesting i do it for the lulz eh? |
| 08:32.11 | DWSR | >.< |
| 08:32.30 | Fisker | also to my defense the player was linking meatspin |
| 08:33.01 | DWSR | What's wrong with that? |
| 08:34.15 | Fisker | i'm not sure that a shemale getting banged in the ass is appropiate for ages 12 and up |
| 08:34.38 | DWSR | That's not what meatspin is.... |
| 08:34.46 | DWSR | Meatspin is a penis spinning in a circle. |
| 08:34.49 | DWSR | That's all. |
| 08:34.54 | Fisker | You haven't seen the full video DWSR |
| 08:34.59 | DWSR | Apparently not. |
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| 08:36.20 | DWSR | lulz, watching the mythbusters episode where they interleave 2 phone books. |
| 08:37.29 | Wobin | why? |
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| 08:38.32 | DWSR | Because that's what is currently airing on Discovery? |
| 08:38.39 | DWSR | The only channel I get that is even remotely entertaining anymore. |
| 08:38.56 | DWSR | Or, do you mean why do they interleave 2 phone books? |
| 08:39.04 | Wobin | yeah =) |
| 08:39.07 | DWSR | Ah. |
| 08:39.13 | DWSR | They want to know how strong it is. |
| 08:39.30 | DWSR | They're trying to pull it apart. |
| 08:40.36 | DWSR | And it requires 2 tanks to finally pull it apart. |
| 08:40.50 | DWSR | They try pulling it by themselves, using the whole Mythbusters production team, and 2 sedans. |
| 08:41.01 | DWSR | 2 phone books, no glue. |
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| 09:07.34 | DWSR | x |
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| 09:26.49 | Wobin | http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6f7_1265141502 |
| 09:26.52 | Wobin | wooo |
| 09:30.25 | zenzio | now that looks slightly dangerous |
| 09:32.53 | DWSR | Meh, not really. |
| 09:33.00 | DWSR | They have something similar to that at an amusement park near me. |
| 09:33.48 | DWSR | The only thing that would be dangerous is swinging back into the cliff. |
| 09:34.00 | DWSR | Since that rope he's swinging on didn't really look like it was taut. |
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| 09:35.33 | ZorbaTHut | the only thing I'd worry about would be the rope giving way at the jerk point one way or another. looks like fun :D |
| 09:35.52 | Wobin | yeah, there's no give on that rope, like a bungee |
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| 09:36.06 | Wobin | so the initial "hit the full bottom point" jerk would be harsh =) |
| 09:36.26 | Wobin | I totally expected the monkey's head to fly off =) |
| 09:37.10 | DWSR | lol |
| 09:37.13 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Meh. |
| 09:37.30 | DWSR | It depends on how the pivot is designed. |
| 09:37.40 | DWSR | It might not be that harsh, but I suspect that you're probably right |
| 09:38.58 | DWSR | Anyone here got a Unix box that can do a favour for me? |
| 09:39.08 | DWSR | looks at Zorba. |
| 09:39.42 | ZorbaTHut | does ubuntu count? |
| 09:39.50 | DWSR | As long as it runs autotools. |
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| 09:40.03 | ZorbaTHut | hmm, maybe |
| 09:40.10 | ZorbaTHut | I mean it should but I don't know if they're installed :P |
| 09:40.11 | DWSR | apt-get install build-essentials. |
| 09:40.16 | DWSR | There, it's installed. |
| 09:40.24 | ZorbaTHut | whatcha need? |
| 09:40.32 | DWSR | You to build something for me. |
| 09:40.50 | DWSR | The Destruction for Dummies addon (Curse) author defined his own scripting language for his addon. |
| 09:41.03 | DWSR | The scripting language requires a parser to convert from his markup to Lua. |
| 09:41.07 | ZorbaTHut | gimme a link to whatever it is. also, you could pretty easily install ubuntu inside vmware, that's what I did for a long time ;) |
| 09:41.16 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Don't have VMWare, don't have Ubuntu. |
| 09:41.26 | ZorbaTHut | both of them are free and easily downloadable |
| 09:41.33 | DWSR | But they take more time. |
| 09:41.37 | DWSR | You're literally downloading text. |
| 09:41.44 | ZorbaTHut | true. so gimme a link to what it is you want, plus instructions :P |
| 09:41.55 | DWSR | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/destruction-dummies.aspx |
| 09:42.06 | DWSR | Give me a second to figure out the damned directives I need to change. |
| 09:43.46 | DWSR | Who uses a spellstone for Demonology? Seriously? |
| 09:44.56 | ZorbaTHut | what's the alternative to a spellstone? |
| 09:45.15 | DWSR | Firestone. |
| 09:45.34 | DWSR | Spellstone is 1% haste + 1% dot dmg vs. Firestone is 1% crit + 1% DD damage. |
| 09:45.48 | DWSR | Shadowbolt + Soul Fire + Incinerate make up over half your damage done. |
| 09:45.54 | ZorbaTHut | *nod* yeah, firestone sounds a lot better |
| 09:46.01 | ZorbaTHut | (my warlock is a mighty level 48) |
| 09:47.02 | DWSR | What are the +13% magic damage debuffs? |
| 09:47.11 | DWSR | Earth & Moon, Ebon Plaguebringer, and CoEl? |
| 09:47.44 | ZorbaTHut | yep |
| 09:47.48 | DWSR | k |
| 09:47.58 | ZorbaTHut | (i was about to say "i don't know" but then I realized I was running a UI mod at that very moment that did know :D) |
| 09:48.02 | DWSR | lol |
| 09:48.09 | DWSR | Which mod? |
| 09:48.17 | ZorbaTHut | Utopia |
| 09:48.28 | DWSR | Linkeh? |
| 09:48.36 | ZorbaTHut | man I'd just be looking on google |
| 09:48.54 | ZorbaTHut | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/utopia.aspx there it is :P |
| 09:49.10 | ZorbaTHut | its uptime graph is partially responsible for me no longer raiding. |
| 09:50.30 | DWSR | Neat. |
| 09:50.40 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: eh? |
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| 09:52.07 | Wobin | hehe http://notalwaysright.com/north-of-the-moral-border/4097 |
| 09:52.30 | DWSR | Does Lua allow for nested conditionals? |
| 09:52.39 | DWSR | Like If (1 && (2 || 3))? |
| 09:52.42 | Wobin | yes |
| 09:52.50 | Wobin | as long as you bracket them properly |
| 09:53.02 | ZorbaTHut | nighthawk, I installed it just to see what it was like |
| 09:53.10 | ZorbaTHut | I realized how awful my guild was at keeping buffs and debuffs up |
| 09:53.17 | Arrowmaster | you dont have to bracket them properly if you do it in the proper order |
| 09:53.18 | nevcairiel | haha Wobin, good one |
| 09:53.25 | ZorbaTHut | and then I realized that, if I couldn't even get them to flask, I certainly couldn't ever get them to fix that. |
| 09:53.40 | ZorbaTHut | and that sort of lead to the realization that it was time to stop raiding with them. |
| 09:53.46 | Wobin | Arrowmaster, true. But it's invariably clearer if you -do- bracket them properly =) |
| 09:54.19 | Wobin | ZorbaTHut, it's like Six degrees of Kevin Bacon =P |
| 09:55.08 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: fair enough :) |
| 09:55.23 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Did you build the parser yet? Instructions are in the readme file (a simple make in the src directory should do the trick, though). |
| 09:55.50 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, I've been waiting for you to package together whatever changes you need :P |
| 09:56.08 | DWSR | Yeah, sorry. |
| 09:56.14 | DWSR | Just trying to get my logic down correctly. |
| 09:56.18 | DWSR | the logic in here is awful. |
| 09:57.57 | Wobin | It totally isn't not awful! |
| 09:58.14 | ZorbaTHut | doesn't seem to build properly out of the box |
| 09:58.19 | ZorbaTHut | looks like there are errors in the lex file |
| 09:58.50 | DWSR | Wobin: heh |
| 09:59.10 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut:: Are the errors easy to fix? |
| 09:59.19 | ZorbaTHut | I dunno, I've never touched flex. :) |
| 09:59.36 | ZorbaTHut | http://pastebin.com/m697116d4 |
| 09:59.58 | zenzio | /flex |
| 10:00.05 | DWSR | encoding fail. |
| 10:00.23 | DWSR | cd to src. |
| 10:00.25 | DWSR | And try making. |
| 10:00.35 | ZorbaTHut | no makefile |
| 10:00.48 | zenzio | interesting name for your computer |
| 10:01.11 | ZorbaTHut | zenzio, I name all my computers after AIs that went insane and tried to kill people. tribunal was originally purchased to be the QH build server, so it got a WoW-themed name. |
| 10:01.15 | ZorbaTHut | plus fuck that fight |
| 10:01.24 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Sorry, .\ddl |
| 10:01.28 | DWSR | .\dddl* |
| 10:01.31 | DWSR | jesus |
| 10:01.45 | zenzio | real AIs or any AIs? (ie. Daedalus in Deus Ex) |
| 10:02.14 | zenzio | I don't really have a scheme... my Windows computer shares my nick, my linux computer for historical reasons is stalin |
| 10:02.38 | ZorbaTHut | Deus Ex would probably work nicely. I've also got the Marathon AIs queued up for inspection |
| 10:02.40 | zenzio | most of my other computers get named after girls I know/knew |
| 10:02.42 | ZorbaTHut | I don't need new systems often |
| 10:02.55 | nevcairiel | my servers go by goa'ulds, my desktop and laptop are some space ships |
| 10:03.01 | ZorbaTHut | I should probably rename my mac mini though |
| 10:03.03 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: That compile OK now? |
| 10:03.05 | DWSR | nevcairiel: Nice. :) |
| 10:03.14 | zenzio | goa'uld? |
| 10:03.20 | DWSR | zenzio: Stargate SG1. |
| 10:03.23 | zenzio | aha |
| 10:03.25 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, same error |
| 10:03.44 | zenzio | I know one company that named their servers after serial killers... "log in to sonofsam" |
| 10:03.57 | DWSR | O_O |
| 10:04.14 | ZorbaTHut | I bought an Eve character and played him for about half a year before I found out he was named after a serial killer :D |
| 10:04.33 | zenzio | heh, what was his name? |
| 10:05.45 | ZorbaTHut | Javed Iqbal |
| 10:06.17 | ZorbaTHut | it largely did not surprise me, considering that I'd bought it from another guy in Goonfleet |
| 10:07.15 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Comment line 54 and try again |
| 10:07.27 | DWSR | in .\dddl\lexer.h |
| 10:07.29 | ZorbaTHut | okay you get like two more tries at this before I tell you to go download vmware server :P |
| 10:07.43 | DWSR | LOL. |
| 10:07.49 | DWSR | Don't worry, I won't be concious 2 more tries. |
| 10:07.52 | ZorbaTHut | there is no dddl/lexer.h |
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| 10:07.58 | DWSR | lexer.l* |
| 10:08.03 | Wobin | also |
| 10:08.07 | Wobin | lol@goonfleet |
| 10:08.10 | nevcairiel | thats your second try now :P |
| 10:08.17 | ZorbaTHut | how the hell do I comment things in a .l file? :P |
| 10:08.39 | DWSR | Considering it's....RIGHT UNDERNEATH A COMMENT? |
| 10:08.41 | DWSR | I don't know. |
| 10:08.59 | DWSR | Looks like /* */ C style comments work. |
| 10:09.04 | ZorbaTHut | ah hey. now we're just down to the implicit declarations of yy_flex_* |
| 10:09.24 | ZorbaTHut | wobin, did you hear about goonfleet's implosion? |
| 10:09.28 | Wobin | yeah =) |
| 10:09.37 | ZorbaTHut | it almost makes me want to play again :D |
| 10:09.45 | Wobin | Big boss came back from his honeymoon to find his giant space empire in ashes =P |
| 10:09.59 | ZorbaTHut | yup. in a lot of ways it's exactly what the goons needed, though |
| 10:10.02 | Wobin | My friend is selling his toons off as fast as he can |
| 10:10.13 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Is it a compiler error or warning? |
| 10:10.13 | ZorbaTHut | and then the "big boss" disbanded the empire and took all the stuff |
| 10:10.19 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, error |
| 10:10.30 | ZorbaTHut | pfft, if he's selling off his toons then he's a sissy |
| 10:10.36 | ZorbaTHut | goonfleet was never about owning a lot of space comfortably |
| 10:10.41 | Wobin | cc1: warnings being treated as errors ? |
| 10:10.45 | ZorbaTHut | it was about blowing the shit out of people in a hilarious manner |
| 10:11.03 | Wobin | that's what goon* is about in general =) |
| 10:11.33 | ZorbaTHut | I'm in the goon group in Global Agenda, it's proving entertaining so far. one guy is already scamming people out of "entrance fees", we're all waiting to see what the GMs do. |
| 10:11.35 | ZorbaTHut | oh, goons. |
| 10:11.45 | ZorbaTHut | tried removing -Werror, now it's undefined references, btw :P |
| 10:12.07 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: apt-get install flex and compile it again. :P |
| 10:12.11 | DWSR | And if that doesn't work. |
| 10:12.14 | DWSR | I give up anyway. |
| 10:12.24 | ZorbaTHut | I had to do that to make it get this far :P |
| 10:12.37 | ZorbaTHut | pick up vmware and ubuntu overnight, highly recommended. |
| 10:12.39 | ZorbaTHut | VMs are awesome. |
| 10:12.42 | DWSR | Mhm |
| 10:12.53 | DWSR | Kinda just want a CLI distro though |
| 10:12.55 | DWSR | Ubuntu Server? |
| 10:13.04 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, that works fine |
| 10:13.05 | DWSR | Actually, I could probably run cygwin, couldn't I? |
| 10:13.15 | ZorbaTHut | possibly. it's not pure authentic linux, but it's often good enough |
| 10:13.30 | ZorbaTHut | I use it for all my Windows dev |
| 10:13.39 | DWSR | Anyway. |
| 10:13.42 | DWSR | Yeah, I like this addon |
| 10:13.56 | DWSR | Building your own Flex lang is a really good idea, but it's just that his logic is old and outdated. |
| 10:14.19 | DWSR | Also, I wouldn't mind adding some fucking styling to this thing. |
| 10:14.20 | ZorbaTHut | why not just use Lua for logic? is there something he's doing that really requires a custom language? |
| 10:14.26 | DWSR | Anyone here got a good tutorial on how to add ButtonFacade? |
| 10:14.36 | Wobin | http://www.badassoftheweek.com/voytek.html |
| 10:15.02 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Yes. He's making it really easy for the people to customize the rotation |
| 10:15.12 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: I'll post the rotation file I made |
| 10:15.27 | nevcairiel | Considering that you need to compile it to lua with some weird tool, really easy doesnt cut it |
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| 10:15.56 | ZorbaTHut | the tool is only used to generate the parser |
| 10:16.03 | DWSR | http://wowi.pastey.net/132529 |
| 10:16.10 | ZorbaTHut | presumably, at least |
| 10:16.34 | nevcairiel | doesnt look that hard to redo that in easy-to-understand lua stuff |
| 10:16.49 | DWSR | nevcairiel: Yeah, but look at the API stuff. |
| 10:16.53 | DWSR | Buff("something"). |
| 10:16.59 | DWSR | !Buff("Something"). |
| 10:17.05 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, I can't help but feel like that'd be redoable in Lua |
| 10:17.12 | DWSR | What's that in Lua? UnitHasBuff("target", "something")? |
| 10:17.12 | ZorbaTHut | Buff("something"), NoBuff("something") |
| 10:17.19 | ZorbaTHut | no, it's a function that you write :P |
| 10:17.23 | nevcairiel | its not like you can't map those to functions |
| 10:17.27 | DWSR | Oh, sure. |
| 10:17.37 | DWSR | I understand that he can't package an executable through Curse. |
| 10:17.52 | ZorbaTHut | I mean stuff like "mutex curse" is going to translate easily to Mutex("curse", (list of stuff)) |
| 10:18.11 | nevcairiel | you could even do |
| 10:18.16 | nevcairiel | mutex "curse" { ... } |
| 10:18.20 | nevcairiel | in Lua |
| 10:18.24 | krka | even do curse = mutex { ... } |
| 10:18.25 | ZorbaTHut | true |
| 10:18.27 | DWSR | !api mutex |
| 10:18.27 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'mutex'. |
| 10:18.28 | foxlit | That syntax is an abomination. |
| 10:18.31 | ZorbaTHut | there's a lot of stuff you could do |
| 10:18.41 | nevcairiel | foxlit: i agree, but its doable :P |
| 10:18.55 | nevcairiel | although for classes it looks nice |
| 10:19.01 | nevcairiel | class "name" { .. } :P |
| 10:19.19 | DWSR | I might contact the author to see if I can get permission to fork it to pure Lua. |
| 10:19.22 | DWSR | The idea's good. |
| 10:19.43 | DWSR | Implementation's probably a bit rough, but whatever. |
| 10:20.11 | krka | it's funny that someone wrote a data language and a parser... for something that's already a data language |
| 10:20.19 | olafski | hah violet hold 13:06 now.. gotta love the faster portals |
| 10:20.25 | DWSR | yeah. |
| 10:20.33 | DWSR | krka: Why? It's Flex. |
| 10:20.49 | DWSR | He just had to write a parser, which is *probably* the same amount of code as writing all the helper funcs anyway. |
| 10:21.09 | olafski | why would we make other languages than just assembly? |
| 10:21.11 | krka | still, why bother? |
| 10:21.13 | olafski | they all boil down to that anyway |
| 10:21.22 | nevcairiel | krka: he probably has no clue about lua much |
| 10:21.30 | krka | olafski: are you saying that the lua syntax much more complex than that custom flex output? |
| 10:21.58 | olafski | I haven't looked at it.. but I wouldn't say "it's already a language" is a good reason not to do it |
| 10:22.16 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, in my experience, custom languages are a bad idea 99% of the time. |
| 10:22.24 | nevcairiel | He requires his users to compile the parser |
| 10:22.26 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: I just mailed him. |
| 10:22.32 | nevcairiel | which is already a reason to not do it |
| 10:22.33 | DWSR | nevcairiel: Yeah, that would be something that he can't get around. |
| 10:22.42 | DWSR | Because of the way that Curse imposes its restrictions. |
| 10:22.44 | olafski | well, he could have used java.. or provided a binary |
| 10:22.49 | DWSR | No he can't. |
| 10:22.51 | olafski | oh |
| 10:22.53 | nevcairiel | You can put binaries on curse |
| 10:22.53 | olafski | good point :P |
| 10:22.55 | nevcairiel | don't be silly |
| 10:23.06 | DWSR | nevcairiel: Of course you *can*, but you have to talk to mods, etc. etc. etc. |
| 10:23.12 | nevcairiel | so, he is just lazy |
| 10:23.15 | DWSR | Basically. |
| 10:23.23 | DWSR | Alright. |
| 10:23.26 | ZorbaTHut | oh, curse is actually okay with that? fuckin' sweet that actually gets rid of a problem I had |
| 10:23.26 | DWSR | time to fork this. |
| 10:23.36 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: You have to provide source code for your binary. |
| 10:23.43 | ZorbaTHut | yeah I'm fine with that |
| 10:23.46 | DWSR | And you have to explicitly have permission from a staffer. |
| 10:23.56 | DWSR | But yes, they will do that. |
| 10:24.01 | ZorbaTHut | I doubt that'd be an issue |
| 10:24.04 | ZorbaTHut | nice |
| 10:24.10 | ZorbaTHut | someday I will have to do that project then |
| 10:24.11 | DWSR | I doubt it will be too. |
| 10:24.31 | DWSR | Mostly because it doesn't require a binary for people to acuse QH of packaging viruses. |
| 10:24.40 | ZorbaTHut | true ;) |
| 10:24.43 | DWSR | Alright. |
| 10:24.44 | olafski | it doesn't pack viruses? |
| 10:24.46 | ZorbaTHut | wouldn't be QH though, it'd be completely unrelated |
| 10:24.48 | DWSR | So, implementation in pure lua. |
| 10:24.54 | Fisker | what do you need it for? |
| 10:25.01 | ZorbaTHut | fisker, I want to make an NES emulator in WoW |
| 10:25.07 | DWSR | LULZ. |
| 10:25.10 | ZorbaTHut | I'd need a program to turn ROM images into something WoW was willing to load. :D |
| 10:25.13 | DWSR | If you get that to work. |
| 10:25.16 | olafski | dwsr: but couldn't he have made a parser in lua or something? :< |
| 10:25.19 | DWSR | I will LOVE YOU |
| 10:25.30 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, I'm not expecting it to work *well*, but the basics shouldn't be all that tough |
| 10:25.31 | Fisker | i just sent away an e-mail to Nintendo's legal team |
| 10:25.31 | Fisker | bai |
| 10:25.33 | ZorbaTHut | and my god it would be hilarious |
| 10:25.44 | nevcairiel | someone already made a Mode7 renderer, altough thats SNES :P |
| 10:25.46 | DWSR | olafski: Probably complicated with the way that WoW loads Lua files. |
| 10:25.48 | ZorbaTHut | fisker, emulators are legal. I'll package it with one of the public domain roms. |
| 10:26.00 | Fisker | i'll package it with your mother |
| 10:26.09 | DWSR | Dude. |
| 10:26.09 | Fisker | just remember to throw a few mario roms my way |
| 10:26.13 | ZorbaTHut | of course everyone is just going to download super mario brothers but that's not my problem :D |
| 10:26.15 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: It just means I get to play Tetris in WoW. |
| 10:26.30 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, no sound, note, I haven't come up with any way to accomplish that |
| 10:26.38 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Don't even care. |
| 10:26.44 | nevcairiel | tetris without the sound is no tetris! |
| 10:27.13 | DWSR | 6 player tetris battles are fucking lulzy. |
| 10:27.25 | DWSR | Esp when you're a person who likes to stack and wait for tetrises. |
| 10:27.33 | DWSR | Boom 4 lines for your rivals. |
| 10:27.39 | DWSR | Really fucks people up like that. |
| 10:28.05 | nevcairiel | also sucks when you already are stacked up and wait for a that line block that never comes, and then get 4 lines yourself |
| 10:28.18 | DWSR | nevcairiel: Never have that problem. =\ |
| 10:28.30 | DWSR | Tetris Battle seems to have the proportionality of line pieces turned up. |
| 10:28.34 | DWSR | as an aside. |
| 10:28.36 | DWSR | LINE PIECE!!!!!!! |
| 10:29.05 | Arrowmaster | tetris 3d on the virtual boy > * |
| 10:29.08 | ZorbaTHut | extra hilarity would be to allow multiplayer NES via the addon communication channel |
| 10:29.13 | ZorbaTHut | though I dunno if I'd actually do that |
| 10:29.42 | nevcairiel | original tetris on the first game boy was win |
| 10:29.54 | nevcairiel | man so many hours with such a simple game |
| 10:30.00 | DWSR | ugh |
| 10:30.03 | DWSR | Now I want to play Tetris. |
| 10:30.15 | Arrowmaster | now i want to dig out my virtual boy |
| 10:32.25 | olafski | dwsr: I actually meant writing a parser that you could use with commandline lua.. probably still less useful than just doing it in lua but at least people wouldn't have to build anything ;) |
| 10:32.49 | DWSR | olafski: Yeah, that's true, I suppose. |
| 10:32.56 | DWSR | Alright. |
| 10:33.07 | DWSR | Time to start implementing some of this rediculousness in Lua. |
| 10:33.35 | olafski | did anyone check out Chime btw? |
| 10:33.37 | krka | olafski: people would have to have lua installed... or have the addon run the parser when booting up |
| 10:33.40 | olafski | strangely compelling |
| 10:33.49 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, sit down and figure out how your scripts will look before you start implementing. |
| 10:33.55 | olafski | krka: yeah, either could work.. but for the latter you'd need to put your expression in a lua variable or something |
| 10:34.12 | ZorbaTHut | I mean honestly what I'm suggesting here is not "parse the scripts in lua", it's "make the scripts valid lua scripts". |
| 10:34.30 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: What's pretty much what I'm thinking. |
| 10:34.37 | Arrowmaster | kinda like pitbull4's LuaText? |
| 10:34.47 | ZorbaTHut | in that case, yeah, definitely plan out the API beforehand :) |
| 10:34.49 | DWSR | Not going to be quite so syntactically sugary as the Lex files from the original. |
| 10:34.54 | DWSR | But still shouldn't be too bad. |
| 10:35.07 | DWSR | Does lua support dothis() if that? |
| 10:35.13 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 10:35.16 | DWSR | fail. |
| 10:35.22 | DWSR | Perl, how you spoiled me. |
| 10:35.28 | krka | i'd start with some simple examples |
| 10:35.35 | DWSR | Would there be any way to emulate that example in Lua at all? |
| 10:35.36 | Arrowmaster | that and dothis() |
| 10:35.38 | Arrowmaster | works |
| 10:35.51 | DWSR | Hmm, that's not bad. |
| 10:36.02 | DWSR | krka: Sure. the "Strict" set's easy. |
| 10:36.19 | DWSR | those are spells/conditions that always take priority if they're not fulfilled. |
| 10:36.23 | krka | and unit test my way to a working implementation \o( |
| 10:36.29 | Arrowmaster | lua> true and print("pass") |
| 10:36.30 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: pass, nil |
| 10:36.45 | Arrowmaster | nil???? |
| 10:36.47 | DWSR | fail. |
| 10:36.49 | Arrowmaster | where did that nil come from? |
| 10:37.29 | foxlit | You, of course. |
| 10:37.38 | foxlit | true and print("pass") is not syntactically valid Lua. |
| 10:37.58 | foxlit | so what actually gets executed is return true and print("pass") |
| 10:38.25 | foxlit | the bot coalesces the print and return results. |
| 10:38.47 | DWSR | foxlit: Is there any way to...sugar if statements? |
| 10:38.54 | DWSR | As opposed to just if ()? |
| 10:39.05 | Arrowmaster | lua> if true then; true and print("pass"); end |
| 10:39.05 | lua_bot | Arrowmaster: luabot:1: unexpected symbol near ';' |
| 10:40.10 | DWSR | Is there a way to automatically generate documentation from Lua src, a la Javadoc? |
| 10:40.13 | foxlit | There has to be an if somewhere. |
| 10:40.31 | DWSR | And a then? |
| 10:40.49 | DWSR | and an end; |
| 10:40.54 | DWSR | right, Lua's not a curly brace lang. |
| 10:41.03 | foxlit | You could stuff it into a function call, but meh. |
| 10:41.05 | Arrowmaster | DWSR: http://kb.wowace.com/projects/docmeta-file/ |
| 10:41.35 | foxlit | You can also try something with table lookups on true/false keys, but, again, meh. |
| 10:41.48 | nevcairiel | its simply Luadoc :d |
| 10:42.13 | DWSR | awesome, thanks Arrowmaster |
| 10:42.44 | DWSR | I'm calling this project FaceSmash. |
| 10:42.44 | nevcairiel | although i beefed up the luadoc in use on wowace to support some more stuff |
| 10:43.09 | Wobin | DWSR, what's it do? |
| 10:43.19 | DWSR | Wobin: Rotation helper framework. |
| 10:43.20 | nevcairiel | !addon facesmash |
| 10:43.23 | lua_bot | Found 0 addon results for 'facesmash': http://is.gd/7FZAH |
| 10:43.24 | DWSR | I'm porting Destruction For Dummies. |
| 10:43.32 | nevcairiel | nothing yet? i'm sure i read that somewhere |
| 10:43.35 | Wobin | DWSR, like Ovale? |
| 10:43.43 | DWSR | ~addon Ovale |
| 10:43.46 | DWSR | !addon Ovale |
| 10:43.47 | lua_bot | Ovale (v. ) last updated Tue Jul 7 19:01 (http://is.gd/7FZEg) |
| 10:43.59 | foxlit | I approve of that versioning scheme. |
| 10:44.37 | DWSR | lulz. |
| 10:44.41 | DWSR | Wobin: Similar, probably. |
| 10:45.09 | DWSR | Not going to display key-bindings. |
| 10:45.18 | DWSR | Not going to do range checks. |
| 10:45.31 | DWSR | I'll probably do if in-motion checks. |
| 10:46.08 | DWSR | And probably have the rotation be more adaptive than Ovale. |
| 10:46.17 | DWSR | In Ovale, you manually define your curses/judgements, etc. |
| 10:46.42 | Arrowmaster | nighty night |
| 10:47.10 | DWSR | krka: gnip |
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| 10:47.22 | DWSR | nn Arrow |
| 10:53.40 | DWSR | nevcairiel: Can I add a blurb at the beginning of a file for Luadoc? |
| 10:53.52 | nevcairiel | not with vanilla luadoc, iirc |
| 10:54.00 | DWSR | Just a big long ass comment explaining what the hell's going on in the file? |
| 10:54.07 | DWSR | nevcairiel: With WoWAce's implementation? |
| 10:54.39 | nevcairiel | yeah it works there if you put a "-- @class file" in there |
| 10:54.42 | olafski | arrowmaster: I beat your lost area score ,) |
| 10:55.43 | DWSR | nevcairiel: I put it at the top of the whole comment block? |
| 10:56.00 | nevcairiel | the control things always go at the bottom of the block |
| 10:56.01 | DWSR | like --- @class file \n--Blah blah blah? |
| 10:56.04 | DWSR | ah, k |
| 10:56.12 | nevcairiel | also blocks start with --- |
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| 10:56.20 | nevcairiel | ah but yeah you did that there .P |
| 10:56.53 | DWSR | ;) |
| 10:57.18 | DWSR | Also, even though I'm hard returning lines in my src, luadoc will expand everything to a nice paragraph, right? |
| 10:58.58 | DWSR | nvm |
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| 11:00.59 | DWSR | DestroDummies.classWarlockDemonology = DestroDummies.lastClassVal + 1; |
| 11:00.59 | DWSR | DestroDummies.lastClassVal = DestroDummies.lastClassVal + 1; |
| 11:00.59 | DWSR | Couldn't he just use DestroDummies.classWarlockDemonology = DestroDummies.lastClassVal++;? |
| 11:01.15 | DWSR | Or does the increment operator not work that way in Lua? |
| 11:01.32 | [Ammo] | it does not exist :) |
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| 11:02.43 | DWSR | O_O |
| 11:03.36 | [Ammo] | or rather += doesn't exist hmm |
| 11:03.39 | [Ammo] | nvm me I think |
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| 11:03.44 | [Ammo] | I need more coffee |
| 11:03.57 | amro | you need more cowbell |
| 11:04.43 | haste | hands [Ammo] a cup. |
| 11:05.01 | DWSR | Is there a concept of a class in Lua? |
| 11:05.07 | DWSR | class being the java definition. |
| 11:06.00 | Ycarene | Lua, AFAIK is not an object oriented language. |
| 11:06.11 | ZorbaTHut | none intrinsic to the language. there are many ways to create classes and inheritance within lua |
| 11:06.37 | DWSR | I'm going to swap to Java terminology for a second, to just describe what I awnt. |
| 11:06.38 | DWSR | want* |
| 11:06.39 | haste | obj:Func() is also a optimized path within lua |
| 11:07.13 | DWSR | I want to create a class type definition, so that all of my script files can just define an object of said class type. |
| 11:07.48 | DWSR | s/define/instantiate/ |
| 11:08.02 | amro | there are several ways depending on exactly what you want |
| 11:08.09 | amro | and hurray for purl |
| 11:08.10 | amro | ~botsnack |
| 11:08.10 | purl | thanks, amro |
| 11:08.22 | DWSR | amro: I'm looking to enforce a set of restrictions on the instances of said class type. |
| 11:08.38 | amro | what kind of restrictions? do you also need inheritance? |
| 11:08.39 | DWSR | Specifically, that they have to have certain fields defined and certain functions defined. |
| 11:09.10 | DWSR | I don't think I need inheritance. |
| 11:09.18 | ZorbaTHut | that's possible, yes, if by "enforce" you mean "it yells at you if you fuck it up" |
| 11:09.24 | amro | yep |
| 11:09.29 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Well, throwing an error works. |
| 11:09.41 | DWSR | Basically, I want to know that a bunch of minimal requirements are met for a rotation definition. |
| 11:09.59 | DWSR | Once those minimal requirements are met (basically so that *my* code doesn't break), I don't care what the user defines for their rotation. |
| 11:10.08 | ZorbaTHut | one way or another you end up with a function you call that either "class-ifies" a bunch of data, or verifies the user's implementation |
| 11:10.14 | ZorbaTHut | and then that function does the tests and calls the error |
| 11:10.19 | amro | indeed |
| 11:10.28 | amro | you don't need to do anything OO |
| 11:10.54 | DWSR | amro: No, not really. |
| 11:11.26 | DWSR | amro: It's just that Java is the only language I know where I can clearly describe the concepts in a meaningful way (at least, in relation to Java), so I was hoping that someone would be able to sort of...meet me half way. |
| 11:11.34 | amro | you can't insure there won't be errors as you can't check function arguments |
| 11:11.43 | amro | but you can check that fields are defined and of the proper type |
| 11:12.16 | DWSR | So the definition file that the user writes is going to just be a bunch of fields? |
| 11:12.30 | amro | I'm not sure what you mean by definition file |
| 11:12.43 | DWSR | amro: I'm writing a rotation helper. |
| 11:12.46 | amro | I'm assuming the user passes a table to your code |
| 11:13.05 | amro | in which case you just have that table (and its metatable) to go on |
| 11:13.05 | DWSR | Definition files define the "rotation" that a user wants to use in a relatively easy and human-readable way. |
| 11:13.15 | amro | oh I see |
| 11:13.26 | DWSR | Like, if this then cast that. |
| 11:13.31 | DWSR | In order of priority. |
| 11:13.32 | amro | so it's more data than code |
| 11:13.35 | DWSR | yes. |
| 11:13.49 | ZorbaTHut | there's a lot of places that you could theoretically errorcheck it |
| 11:14.11 | ZorbaTHut | worst case you do it after all the data is input, i.e. after the user script is fully evaluated |
| 11:14.15 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: I might write a validator program to package along with the addone. |
| 11:14.19 | DWSR | addon* |
| 11:14.28 | ZorbaTHut | this should probably be part of the UI mod |
| 11:14.33 | ZorbaTHut | you input a user script, it validates |
| 11:15.11 | DWSR | Should I use SVs for saving user scripts? |
| 11:15.21 | DWSR | Or files in the addon directory? |
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| 11:16.03 | DWSR | I was leaning towards files in the addon directory, but SVs provides an interesting alternative, mostly because it's easier to change for the user during testing. |
| 11:16.19 | DWSR | Though, how would SVs get for a few thousand lines of Lua? |
| 11:16.38 | DWSR | (Note: Never programmed an addon this complex before, so forgive the stupid questions) |
| 11:17.02 | jnwhiteh | Mikma Ëas a great rotation helper, if that helps. |
| 11:17.37 | DWSR | jnwhiteh: I'm trying to port an already existing addon to a pure Lua state and give it some more features, mostly as a learning experience. |
| 11:17.52 | jnwhiteh | 'pure Lua state' |
| 11:17.56 | DWSR | jnwhiteh: Don't ask. |
| 11:17.56 | jnwhiteh | I'm not really sure what you mean.. |
| 11:18.08 | nevcairiel | it used a flex parser before =P |
| 11:18.11 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 11:18.15 | jnwhiteh | wow.. |
| 11:18.18 | DWSR | yeah. |
| 11:18.26 | nevcairiel | users would write rotations in flex, it would parse it into lua |
| 11:18.27 | nevcairiel | and run that |
| 11:18.29 | nevcairiel | like, why |
| 11:18.31 | Fisker | what is a great rotation helper mr. jnwhiteh? |
| 11:18.31 | jnwhiteh | wow. |
| 11:18.39 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: your mom, imo! |
| 11:18.43 | DWSR | lulz. |
| 11:18.54 | Fisker | she's not good helping with rotations |
| 11:19.30 | DWSR | hehe |
| 11:19.44 | DWSR | How local are local functions? |
| 11:19.48 | DWSR | local to the file? The addon? |
| 11:20.16 | nevcairiel | the scope. |
| 11:20.26 | jnwhiteh | where do head enchants come from in wrath? |
| 11:20.43 | DWSR | jnwhiteh: Depends on what you are. |
| 11:20.44 | nevcairiel | jnwhiteh: the factions with tabards, pretty much |
| 11:20.45 | zenzio | hm... Argent Vanguard or something? |
| 11:20.45 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, SVs, and allow the user to edit the scripts while the addon is running |
| 11:20.45 | Fisker | factions |
| 11:21.22 | DWSR | jnwhiteh: DPS caster is Kirin Tor, healer is Wyrmrest Accord, tank is Argent Crusade, melee DPS is Ebon Blade. |
| 11:21.26 | jnwhiteh | Healer |
| 11:21.34 | DWSR | Wyrmrest Accord, Wyrmrest Temple. |
| 11:21.37 | DWSR | Need to be Revered. |
| 11:21.45 | DWSR | at least. |
| 11:21.46 | jnwhiteh | i'm exHAULted |
| 11:21.49 | jnwhiteh | so that'sokay =) |
| 11:21.51 | DWSR | k |
| 11:21.59 | Wobin | ugh |
| 11:22.03 | Wobin | fucking exhaulted =P |
| 11:22.04 | nevcairiel | you ran quite a few dungeons lately, eh :) |
| 11:22.40 | jnwhiteh | I'm working on my Explorer's League right now. |
| 11:22.44 | DWSR | lulz. |
| 11:22.47 | DWSR | You took your tabards off? :P |
| 11:22.50 | jnwhiteh | need to find out how to get some of the other tabards I dont have yet. |
| 11:22.54 | jnwhiteh | DWSR: all the tabards I have are done. |
| 11:23.07 | DWSR | jnwhiteh: There are 4 factions with tabards @ 80. |
| 11:23.14 | DWSR | KotEB, AC, KT, WA. |
| 11:23.38 | DWSR | Once you take off your rep tabards, all the rep will go towards various other factions, such as the Explorer's League and the Frostborn. |
| 11:23.39 | jnwhiteh | WA? |
| 11:23.45 | DWSR | Wyrmrest Accord. |
| 11:23.49 | Wobin | you can get all that rep without the tabard too |
| 11:23.53 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 11:23.56 | Wobin | it just takes longer |
| 11:23.59 | jnwhiteh | that's done, KT is done, Argent is done |
| 11:24.04 | Wobin | cause you don't control which faction you gain in |
| 11:24.04 | DWSR | KotEB. |
| 11:24.05 | jnwhiteh | I don't have KotEB |
| 11:24.10 | jnwhiteh | I'm neutral with them |
| 11:24.10 | DWSR | They have a tabard. |
| 11:24.12 | jnwhiteh | were does that shit start? |
| 11:24.16 | DWSR | Shadow Vault. |
| 11:24.19 | Wobin | you can only get that tabard at friendly |
| 11:24.25 | Wobin | start the chain at Orgrim's Hammer |
| 11:24.25 | DWSR | Need to do a questline starting on your faction's airship in ICC. |
| 11:24.28 | Wobin | or the ally airship |
| 11:24.35 | DWSR | Orgrim's Hammer or the Skybraeker. |
| 11:24.38 | DWSR | Skybreaker* |
| 11:24.58 | jnwhiteh | ah cool. |
| 11:25.59 | amro | what's a rotation helper? |
| 11:26.12 | DWSR | amro: Flashes/shows the spell icon that you should use next. |
| 11:26.24 | DWSR | Based on a set of conditions. |
| 11:26.40 | amro | the game isn't easy enough? :P |
| 11:26.40 | DWSR | So, for example, cast Curse of Doom if it's not up, then cast Immolate, then cast Corruption. |
| 11:26.53 | DWSR | amro: I'm writing it as an intellectual excercise, off my nuts. :P |
| 11:27.02 | krka | who hasn't written one of those :P |
| 11:27.14 | DWSR | lots of people. |
| 11:27.15 | Wobin | I haven't |
| 11:28.43 | foxlit | And people who have wrote boring ones. |
| 11:29.38 | foxlit | I feel like there should be a punctuation mark there, but there really shouldn't. |
| 11:30.20 | DWSR | There actually should. |
| 11:30.30 | DWSR | Actually, there should be another 'have' in there. |
| 11:30.40 | DWSR | And people who have, have written boring ones. |
| 11:30.49 | DWSR | or, And the people who have, wrote boring ones. |
| 11:31.29 | DWSR | You sir, created a run-on sentence, in addition to a sentence fragment (sentences don't start with prepositions like and, because, but). |
| 11:31.31 | foxlit | See, that irks me more than the original phrasing. |
| 11:31.42 | DWSR | foxlit: Why? |
| 11:33.45 | foxlit | Because the pause created by the comma seems awkward. |
| 11:34.57 | Wobin | can you get the hilt in normal ICC5s? |
| 11:34.58 | zenzio | the people who did wrote boring ones |
| 11:35.07 | nevcairiel | only heroic, Wobin |
| 11:35.15 | DWSR | zenzio: sentence fragment. |
| 11:35.28 | DWSR | actually. |
| 11:35.29 | zenzio | this is IRC, it's all fragments |
| 11:35.30 | DWSR | Nevermind, it's fine. |
| 11:35.59 | DWSR | the people who did is an ambiguous subject, but taken in the context of the conversation, is actually alright. |
| 11:36.26 | DWSR | The people who did wrote boring ones is fine. |
| 11:36.35 | zenzio | yeah, out of context it wouldn't be a very good sentence |
| 11:36.54 | DWSR | anyway, whatever. |
| 11:37.00 | zenzio | hehe |
| 11:37.06 | foxlit | Most things aren't good out of context. |
| 11:37.56 | DWSR | You're not good out of context. |
| 11:38.11 | ZorbaTHut | your mom's not good out of context |
| 11:38.16 | DWSR | Also true. |
| 11:38.26 | DWSR | Double entendre? |
| 11:38.29 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Ok, SO. |
| 11:38.46 | DWSR | Should I write a script editing UI? |
| 11:38.49 | zenzio | you should see my company's out-of-context wall... right now there are 90 post-it notes with sentences that weren't intended to sound sexual, but did sound so when taken out of context |
| 11:38.51 | DWSR | Or should this just be in raw Lua? |
| 11:39.43 | ZorbaTHut | dwsr, make a script editing UI that consists solely of a text box and a "go" button |
| 11:40.10 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Well, I was thinking of adding in fields for "Script Name" "Class" "Talent Build" |
| 11:40.12 | ZorbaTHut | the "go" button should evaluate the script and report any errors, which, for a first shot at the program, can consist entirely of "there is an error here is a stack trace lol sucka" |
| 11:40.17 | ZorbaTHut | make it work first. |
| 11:40.19 | foxlit | 1. Buy a Lego Mindstorms kit. |
| 11:40.19 | ZorbaTHut | then make it pretty. |
| 11:40.24 | foxlit | 2. Clone the programming environment. |
| 11:40.25 | foxlit | 3. ??? |
| 11:40.33 | DWSR | 4. Profit! |
| 11:40.54 | DWSR | !gf |
| 11:42.29 | DWSR | mkay. |
| 11:42.54 | DWSR | Since Blizz decided to build a unified options interface, I'm just going to build in there, no custom config UIs, for now anyway. |
| 11:43.08 | ZorbaTHut | good enough. |
| 11:43.39 | DWSR | I was thinking of defining all of the 'helper' functions first. |
| 11:43.47 | DWSR | Since a lot of those should be <5 lines. |
| 11:48.16 | DWSR | !api round |
| 11:48.18 | lua_bot | Found 10 possible results for 'round': GetNumBattlegroundTypes, UnitInBattleground, TabardModel:GetLowerBackgroundFileName, GetBattlegroundInfo, TabardModel:GetUpperBackgroundFileName, PLAYER_ENTERING_BATTLEGROUND, CHAT_MSG_BATTLEGROUND_LEADER, CHAT_MSG_BATTLEGROUND, GetQuestBackgroundMaterial, RequestBattlegroundInstanceInfo |
| 11:48.23 | DWSR | sigh |
| 11:49.16 | zenzio | !api ^round |
| 11:49.17 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for '^round'. |
| 11:49.31 | zenzio | !api math.round |
| 11:49.31 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'math.round'. |
| 11:49.40 | zenzio | shrugs |
| 11:49.47 | krka | not in stock lua atleast |
| 11:49.56 | krka | since there are many ways of implementing round |
| 11:51.07 | foxlit | [Unrelenting Assault] bugs me. |
| 11:51.08 | foxlit | There |
| 11:51.16 | zenzio | why? |
| 11:51.25 | foxlit | seems to be no way to tell whether your overpower actually did anything to reduce magical damage and healing. |
| 11:51.48 | ZorbaTHut | function math.round(x) return math.floor(x + 0.5) end --bam |
| 11:51.56 | ZorbaTHut | (may not want to add it to math. in a WoW UI mod) |
| 11:52.18 | DWSR | krka: math.ceil and math.floor. |
| 11:53.05 | krka | ZorbaTHut: sure, that's the easiest way and probably enough for most usages |
| 11:54.32 | foxlit | there seems to be no buff or debuff. |
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| 11:58.08 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: So, should I just make this user script one big script fragment and run it? |
| 11:58.22 | ZorbaTHut | that's what I'd do. :D |
| 11:58.40 | ZorbaTHut | you may find it handy to toss it in a little restricted environment with just the API functions that you plan for it to have |
| 11:58.48 | ZorbaTHut | or you might not find that worth the time |
| 11:59.20 | DWSR | well. |
| 11:59.26 | DWSR | Restricted environments might be a good idea. |
| 12:00.02 | DWSR | Though, perhaps exposing other addons? |
| 12:00.16 | DWSR | Say, looking for a DBM module that's loaded and loading a custom rotation based on the fight? |
| 12:01.23 | DWSR | e.g. When the new adds timer spawns, instantly suggest popping Metamorphosis and Immolation Aura, followed by Seed of Corruption 10 times? |
| 12:02.13 | DWSR | Or suggest AoEing. |
| 12:02.57 | ZorbaTHut | Worry about that when you have the basics working ;) but yes, having some kind of a DBM interconnect wouldn't be a bad idea |
| 12:03.16 | DWSR | Well, it's a design paradigm. How much restriction should I have? |
| 12:03.18 | ZorbaTHut | if you wanted to generalize it, provide some method for people to hook in to add new API functions |
| 12:03.28 | ZorbaTHut | and then maybe someone will write a DBM module before you do |
| 12:03.31 | DWSR | Hmm, that's probably a better idea. |
| 12:03.53 | ZorbaTHut | I mean, basically, if someone *explicitly* wants to add a function, I see no reason not to let them |
| 12:03.58 | DWSR | I do. |
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| 12:04.08 | ZorbaTHut | I think it's a little dubious to provide full access to the WoW API by default, however |
| 12:04.29 | foxlit | I don't see why. |
| 12:04.36 | foxlit | Are you going to be running code you don't trust? Why? |
| 12:04.42 | DWSR | Possibly. |
| 12:04.45 | DWSR | foxlit: Because people are idiots. |
| 12:05.03 | ZorbaTHut | well, as I said, if they're going to install an entire separate malicious plugin, you can't really stop them |
| 12:05.36 | ZorbaTHut | there's not a big difference between "here is my amazing script, you'll need to install LibYourBoxIsFuckingRooted in order to run it" and "here is my amazing UI mod, I call it YourBoxIsFuckingRooted, go install it" |
| 12:05.58 | DWSR | There is. |
| 12:06.07 | ZorbaTHut | make it secure by default, but you can never save people from themselves. |
| 12:06.16 | DWSR | That, I suppose, is true. |
| 12:06.53 | DWSR | I'll probably add some sort of hook implementation later, where you can call specificly registered functions. |
| 12:07.10 | ZorbaTHut | honestly I'd just drop the functions directly into your namespace, but those details can be worked out later |
| 12:07.35 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: The point of having a registry is that way you know exactly what functions are able to be used before hand. |
| 12:07.48 | ZorbaTHut | by "you", what do you mean? |
| 12:07.57 | DWSR | you being me, the programmer. |
| 12:08.03 | ZorbaTHut | because I mean for k in pairs(_G) do print(k) end |
| 12:08.12 | ZorbaTHut | I don't see an explicit registry being needed for this |
| 12:08.14 | DWSR | _G is the global metatable, right? |
| 12:08.24 | ZorbaTHut | we don't have one for lua itself, why do you need one for your UI mod? |
| 12:08.35 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, that's just a quick example of "print every global name" |
| 12:09.06 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: hm. |
| 12:09.18 | ZorbaTHut | and then there's also "if magic then magic() end" and the like |
| 12:09.20 | DWSR | That's just letting Lua do the legwork for me. |
| 12:09.32 | ZorbaTHut | and I consider that to be a fantastic idea :) |
| 12:09.35 | DWSR | Indeed. |
| 12:09.55 | krka | or: (magic or nullfun)() =) |
| 12:09.56 | DWSR | Anyway, the point is, I'd need to check that function hookxyz is defined before I validate a script that uses it. |
| 12:10.12 | ZorbaTHut | you actually don't - you're going to have to catch generic errors no matter what |
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| 12:10.27 | ZorbaTHut | so the script tries to call nil, you catch that error and say "hey uh script tried to call nil" |
| 12:10.30 | ZorbaTHut | "might want to take a look at that" |
| 12:10.51 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: There's a difference between "You fail at syntax" and "Your script is syntactically correct, but you called a function that doesn't exist" |
| 12:11.34 | krka | sure |
| 12:11.36 | ZorbaTHut | sure, they generate different errors at different points in the standard loadstring/pcall process |
| 12:11.39 | krka | and you can capture those at different times |
| 12:11.40 | DWSR | And while I realize that in the early stages it's just "you fucked up here's a stack trace cya", I'd like to make the distinction farther down the road. |
| 12:11.42 | krka | the first fails at loadstirng |
| 12:11.47 | krka | the second fails at running |
| 12:11.48 | ZorbaTHut | luckily, lua provides both of them for you :) |
| 12:12.20 | krka | local fun, err = loadstring(chunkofcode) <-- if fun == nil then show the err message end |
| 12:12.21 | DWSR | The error messages I have are going to be rude, as well, I think. |
| 12:12.21 | ZorbaTHut | that said, I don't think you really need to make a distinction besides different error messages |
| 12:12.39 | DWSR | Like "Hey, you broke the script. Good going"/. |
| 12:12.39 | ZorbaTHut | your average user is not going to know the difference anyway. just provide the exact text lua gives you, and you're set |
| 12:12.41 | krka | local status, err = pcall(fun) <-- if status == false then show the err message end |
| 12:13.09 | ZorbaTHut | and yeah krka just gave you the important validation code here :) |
| 12:14.37 | DWSR | hm. |
| 12:16.01 | DWSR | Do I even need to worry about localizations? |
| 12:16.21 | ZorbaTHut | I can't think of any situation in which you would, though, honestly, even if you did, worry about it for the next version. |
| 12:16.40 | DWSR | ZorbaTHut: Yeah, shouldn't all the API calls figure out what you're doing based on your client's locale? |
| 12:16.58 | DWSR | I mean, except for like a half dozen strings in the config UI somewhere, the client should mostly take care of itself. |
| 12:17.05 | ZorbaTHut | well, if you're naming buffs by name, then you'll have to name the buff with the right locale |
| 12:17.20 | krka | worry about it later |
| 12:17.21 | ZorbaTHut | that can be "fixed" by using buff IDs instead, with the new glorious problem that there's no easy way to deal with buffs with the *same* name |
| 12:17.23 | krka | keep it simple |
| 12:18.08 | ZorbaTHut | it might be worth putting some thought into how you're going to identify buffs. of course I'm not sure there's a good answer to this, so you might just want to defer it to the future. |
| 12:20.13 | DWSR | Since Lua's dynamically typed, is there anyway to check if a variable is all numeric? |
| 12:20.22 | ZorbaTHut | do you mean numeric, or an actual number? |
| 12:20.27 | ZorbaTHut | type(variable) == "number" for the latter |
| 12:20.54 | DWSR | ah. |
| 12:21.00 | ZorbaTHut | if you want to see if it's a numeric string, tonumber(variable) ~= nil |
| 12:21.08 | DWSR | ah, nice. |
| 12:21.15 | DWSR | Anyway, I should go and finish this assignment that's due in 3 hours. |
| 12:21.18 | DWSR | that I haven't started. |
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| 12:21.21 | ZorbaTHut | good luck :) |
| 12:21.27 | DWSR | Thanks, I'm sure that I'll be back |
| 12:24.43 | foxlit | http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=10 << cute quest id |
| 12:27.23 | ZorbaTHut | http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=11934 best quest text |
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| 12:33.41 | zenzio | wonder if the IDs are purely based on when things were added |
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| 12:35.09 | foxlit | It seems unlikely that the 10th quest in the game would be a silithid-related one in tanaris. |
| 12:35.30 | zenzio | that's what made me wonder |
| 12:38.01 | krka | internal index for wowhead? |
| 12:38.42 | foxlit | It matches up with in-game IDs. |
| 12:39.54 | ZorbaTHut | zenzio, the best guess is that they're based on when things were added, but things have also been re-used over time |
| 12:40.30 | ZorbaTHut | there are also large gaps in the numbering, especially between expansion packs |
| 12:40.52 | ZorbaTHut | still, there's enough contiguity that it is certainly not completely random. |
| 12:43.27 | krka | the original quest 10 may have gotten removed early |
| 12:43.32 | krka | and then they reused it |
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| 12:55.25 | Wobin | hehe |
| 12:55.25 | Wobin | http://www.teefury.com/ |
| 12:55.29 | Wobin | nice shirt |
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| 14:12.13 | Kraps | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=22749243476&sid=1&pageNo=3 |
| 14:12.52 | Kraps | holy crap |
| 14:14.03 | jnwhiteh | yeah, wow. |
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| 14:14.48 | nevcairiel | man that guy is a moron |
| 14:15.04 | nevcairiel | he wants reasonable responses from his rant post? yeah, good luck with that |
| 14:16.09 | olafski | :( |
| 14:16.13 | olafski | he's cute |
| 14:16.19 | olafski | muqq is my favourite shadowpriest |
| 14:16.22 | nevcairiel | not like anyone believes that they didn't know what caused the bugs |
| 14:17.23 | nevcairiel | i'm pretty convinced they consciously used the bug to get a fast kill, so stop qqing |
| 14:17.41 | Kraps | ^ |
| 14:19.16 | olafski | I still like him either way |
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| 14:20.14 | nevcairiel | i dont know him, but that post alone makes me place him in the typical "we are better then you"-guys pile |
| 14:21.20 | Kalroth | He is though. :p |
| 14:21.32 | nevcairiel | He plays WoW the whole day |
| 14:21.37 | nevcairiel | he most certainly is not |
| 14:21.44 | Lopeppeppy | It was only a 72 hour ban, it's not like he got the perma-ban-stick. |
| 14:21.50 | Kalroth | Isn't it a forum post on a WoW forum, nev? |
| 14:22.05 | nevcairiel | apparently he posted that on some blog or something |
| 14:22.09 | olafski | I know him, he's the best GM I've ever had |
| 14:22.14 | Kalroth | Yes, ensidia.com blog :) |
| 14:22.30 | Kraps | http://www.ensidia.com/muqq/blog/4078/ |
| 14:23.08 | nevcairiel | He thinks his guild alone can force blizzard into doing anything, yeah right |
| 14:23.17 | Kraps | the first response goes and deconstructs him |
| 14:23.20 | Kalroth | Odds are that he's better at WoW than most of us, even if that reason is that he plays WoW the whole day (which is silly, since high end raiding guilds raid less than casual guilds etc.) |
| 14:24.11 | nevcairiel | arrogance is arrogance, and calling threatening blizzard just shows how mature he really is |
| 14:24.19 | nevcairiel | s/calling// |
| 14:24.34 | olafski | he's quite good kalroth :) |
| 14:24.42 | Kalroth | threatening blizzard is dumb and pointless, yes |
| 14:24.55 | olafski | when I was raiding with him we raided for about 3 hours a night, 3 days a week and got all server firsts |
| 14:25.06 | Lopeppeppy | I don't care if he's a "good" player, if he gets that way by exploiting and then stomps away like a 3 year old when caught. |
| 14:25.09 | olafski | I guess he plays more now though |
| 14:25.10 | Kalroth | his only hope would have been to get the general public with him, but that's going to be hard since he exploited :) |
| 14:27.03 | nevcairiel | He writes like he was looking for an excuse to stop playing anyway |
| 14:27.10 | nevcairiel | so now he can blame blizzard and go out QQing |
| 14:28.36 | Lopeppeppy | QQ tastes good in milk. Like angels' tears diluting cyanide. |
| 14:29.23 | Wobin | yes, he's a good player |
| 14:29.29 | Wobin | he's also an immature prat =) |
| 14:29.45 | Shirik | Kraps: Meh, about time |
| 14:30.04 | Wobin | We don't deny that Ensidia have -good- players. |
| 14:30.22 | Wobin | they're just not all there upstairs |
| 14:30.27 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 14:30.42 | Shirik | I know people in Ensidia :/ |
| 14:30.45 | Shirik | and totally agree with Wobin |
| 14:31.01 | Wobin | You have to be slightly deranged to have the mindset required to play in that guild |
| 14:31.15 | Wobin | or at least some level of OCD |
| 14:31.22 | Wobin | or CDO, as the pros put it |
| 14:31.45 | Shirik | eh |
| 14:31.49 | Wobin | and that's the same with any 'team' |
| 14:31.54 | Shirik | for an extended amount of time sure |
| 14:32.18 | Wobin | Shirik, sure, people can fake it for a bit |
| 14:32.23 | Wobin | but they're not the -hardcore- players =P |
| 14:33.31 | Shirik | eh |
| 14:33.37 | Shirik | you kinda have to be hardcore to be in that guild at all |
| 14:33.45 | Shirik | well, for more than two days :P |
| 14:33.52 | Shirik | but months, even, is demanding |
| 14:34.16 | Lopeppeppy | CDO is contagious. |
| 14:34.38 | Shirik | pokes Lopeppeppy |
| 14:36.46 | Kaso | So they used saronite bombs to cheese some mechanic in the fight that requires seige damage? any one know more context |
| 14:37.11 | nevcairiel | apparently the siege damage of the bombs somehow repairs instead of damages |
| 14:37.19 | nevcairiel | due to a bug |
| 14:37.48 | Kaso | what is the fight roughly? |
| 14:38.09 | Lopeppeppy | Kill Arthas before he kills you. :) |
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| 14:38.35 | Kaso | okay a little less rough than that ;p |
| 14:38.46 | Lopeppeppy | is a smartass! |
| 14:38.50 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Shirik. |
| 14:38.53 | Kaso | It involves vehicles or something? |
| 14:39.14 | Kraps | dont think so |
| 14:39.40 | Kraps | vid here http://www.mmo-champion.com/ |
| 14:41.11 | olafski | apparently the platform you fight him on breaks down over time |
| 14:41.21 | olafski | and valkyrs pick up players and throw them off the sides if you don't dps them down |
| 14:41.29 | olafski | and apparently those bombs somehow restore the platform |
| 14:41.39 | olafski | so the valkyrs would drop the players on the ground instead of off the platform |
| 14:41.52 | Kraps | so was muqq the only one suspended? |
| 14:42.07 | nevcairiel | no, the whole raid |
| 14:42.11 | Lopeppeppy | Probably everyone in the attempt got the same vacation. |
| 14:42.55 | Kraps | nice |
| 14:46.40 | Shirik | ç§ã¯å¿å£«ã§ã |
| 14:47.16 | Shirik | I love google's translation for that |
| 14:47.19 | Shirik | "Chester desu" |
| 14:47.38 | nevcairiel | ~x zh en ç§ã¯å¿å£«ã§ã |
| 14:47.43 | Shirik | jp |
| 14:47.48 | nevcairiel | ~x jp en ç§ã¯å¿å£«ã§ã |
| 14:47.50 | amro | Shirik: how the what? |
| 14:47.55 | nevcairiel | or not |
| 14:47.59 | Kraps | whats with all the Kanji Shirik |
| 14:48.01 | nevcairiel | it probably has utf8 issues |
| 14:48.08 | Shirik | why not Kraps :( |
| 14:48.23 | Kraps | i wont allow it! |
| 14:48.36 | Shirik | ãããã¯ããã§ã |
| 14:48.45 | amro | bad |
| 14:48.45 | Shirik | happy? |
| 14:48.50 | amro | kana are harder to read |
| 14:48.54 | Shirik | blame Kraps |
| 14:48.57 | Kaso | olafski: that makes sense now |
| 14:49.00 | amro | ~lart Kraps |
| 14:49.00 | purl | cats /dev/urandom into Kraps's ear |
| 14:49.07 | Kraps | WHAT |
| 14:49.16 | Shirik | You should at least recognize ç§ |
| 14:49.26 | Kraps | i know nossing! |
| 14:49.42 | Shirik | Even I recognize it, and I suck at kanji |
| 14:49.58 | olafski | kaso: what makes se.. oh that |
| 14:50.18 | Kaso | your arthas explaination ;p |
| 14:50.31 | amro | I recongnized å¿ and 士 but not in that combination |
| 14:50.33 | olafski | that's just what I gathered quickly though |
| 14:50.41 | Lopeppeppy | at least your client translates kanji, and not boxes. |
| 14:50.43 | olafski | I haven't watched the movie or read much about it |
| 14:50.44 | amro | according to wwwjdic though that's not even close to chester |
| 14:51.13 | olafski | somehow I don't care about bossfight movies anymore :< |
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| 14:55.32 | Wobin | amro, that's part of my name =) |
| 14:55.49 | Wobin | å¿ |
| 14:56.24 | amro | lucky you |
| 14:56.29 | amro | mine starts with å® |
| 14:56.48 | amro | so I tend to stick to katakana for it :P |
| 14:58.21 | Wobin | å¿æ° |
| 15:00.25 | Kaso | unicode is fun |
| 15:01.14 | amro | Wobin: what reading? |
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| 15:01.31 | Wobin | how do you mean? |
| 15:02.14 | amro | I mean how do you read å¿æ°? there's like 30 ways |
| 15:02.52 | Wobin | Will of the People |
| 15:03.07 | amro | your name is Will of the People? |
| 15:03.14 | Wobin | well, translated, yes =P |
| 15:03.28 | nevcairiel | there actually is a word for will of the people in chinese? seems kinda conflicting :P |
| 15:03.37 | Wobin | it's more a phrase than anything |
| 15:03.42 | Wobin | well, it's a name =P |
| 15:03.46 | Wobin | like "Right Hand of God" |
| 15:04.37 | Wobin | or "Son of the right hand", which is the meaning of my English name |
| 15:04.50 | Wobin | (which, in retrospect, sounds kinda dirty) |
| 15:04.54 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 15:05.27 | Wobin | my chinese and english names sound similiar |
| 15:05.38 | amro | what are they? |
| 15:05.44 | Wobin | Benjamin |
| 15:05.45 | Legorol | what's with everyone speaking japanese/chinese lately? |
| 15:05.55 | amro | it's the New Cool Thing Legorol |
| 15:05.56 | Wobin | and Zhi min |
| 15:05.59 | amro | try to keep up |
| 15:06.07 | Wobin | Ji mun, if you're canto |
| 15:06.09 | Legorol | amro: does it mean i'd been cool for the past 23 years? |
| 15:06.21 | amro | Legorol: no, only recently. :P |
| 15:06.25 | Legorol | damn |
| 15:07.19 | Wobin | don't worry Legorol you're Noveau Cool |
| 15:07.37 | amro | nouveau* |
| 15:07.43 | Wobin | ta |
| 15:07.47 | krka | Jag tycker vi börjar prata svenska istället. |
| 15:07.59 | krka | Det är så mainstream att hålla på med asiatiska språk |
| 15:08.11 | krka | Den här töntiga mangagenerationen tar över! |
| 15:08.23 | Wobin | æ认为ï¼æ们å¼å§åè¨ï¼èçå
¸ |
| 15:08.56 | amro | Ùا٠ÙاÙÙ |
| 15:09.01 | krka | Tycker du ja |
| 15:09.11 | Wobin | pashto? |
| 15:09.18 | Wobin | my font can't keep up =( |
| 15:09.23 | amro | turns out my client is bad at RTL |
| 15:09.27 | amro | that's arabic |
| 15:09.37 | nevcairiel | my font shows it, not like i can understand anything |
| 15:10.15 | krka | Jag tycker det räcker gott och väl med sex tecken utanför ascii. |
| 15:10.15 | Legorol | i'll just stick to this obscure, relatively unknown language, see if you guys can figure it out: |
| 15:10.23 | krka | english! |
| 15:10.24 | Legorol | ur s0 c00l, ur all 1337!! |
| 15:10.25 | krka | was i right? |
| 15:10.25 | Wobin | English? |
| 15:10.34 | krka | your second line is trickier |
| 15:10.40 | nevcairiel | leet-speak is no language |
| 15:10.43 | nevcairiel | its just a new "font" |
| 15:10.49 | Legorol | :) |
| 15:10.50 | krka | tardspeek |
| 15:11.01 | olafski | aolspeek! |
| 15:11.06 | krka | lzspeek |
| 15:11.09 | krka | lz is for lazy! |
| 15:11.11 | Wobin | Iay asway opinghey orfay atey eastley omesay igay atinlay |
| 15:11.24 | amro | Lok'tar ogar! |
| 15:11.33 | Wobin | May your blades never dull! |
| 15:11.51 | nevcairiel | Wobin: that reminds me of that childrens speak in some simpsons ep |
| 15:11.52 | Wobin | Tat'zingo! |
| 15:12.05 | Wobin | nevcairiel, it's pig latin =) |
| 15:12.12 | Legorol | My favourite quote lately has been the famous: "If you are too lazy to type please intead of plz because it's shorter, than I'll say No because it's shorter than Yes" |
| 15:12.14 | amro | isn't it taz'dingo? |
| 15:12.20 | Wobin | amro, could be, could be |
| 15:12.25 | Wobin | I've not played a troll in ages |
| 15:12.26 | Legorol | it is, amro is right |
| 15:12.43 | Wobin | taz'dingo stole my baby =( |
| 15:14.12 | Lopeppeppy | It would be "igpay atinlay". |
| 15:14.15 | krka | New troll here! |
| 15:14.26 | Wobin | true |
| 15:14.29 | Wobin | it's also late =( |
| 15:14.32 | Wobin | and I should be to bed |
| 15:15.30 | Wobin | http://notalwaysright.com/we-prefer-not-to-watch-dr-manhattans-project/4105 |
| 15:15.33 | Kalroth | Legorol: plz y r u h8in' |
| 15:15.59 | Lopeppeppy | Wobin, go to bed. And dream of naked blue men! |
| 15:16.00 | Wobin | 11 was a horse |
| 15:16.09 | Wobin | 22 was 12 |
| 15:16.12 | Wobin | 1111race |
| 15:16.13 | Wobin | 22112 |
| 15:16.19 | krka | who doesn't always dream of naked blue men? |
| 15:16.27 | Lopeppeppy | I sure don't. I like them green. |
| 15:16.29 | Wobin | ooh da boo dee da boo dah |
| 15:16.29 | Kalroth | summons the Fisker to scare Wobin away. |
| 15:17.40 | Fisker | hey Wobin |
| 15:17.53 | Wobin | oh god |
| 15:17.59 | Wobin | Kalroth has the power to summon Fisker |
| 15:18.11 | Kalroth | :D |
| 15:22.05 | Wobin | http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=3391 |
| 15:22.11 | Wobin | some awesome images |
| 15:22.21 | Kalroth | Any boobies there? |
| 15:22.36 | Kalroth | (if australian, then only big boobies) |
| 15:22.54 | Wobin | there actually are |
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| 15:27.18 | olafski | for some reason urls posted by wobin aren't parsed correctly in my putty :< |
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| 15:32.42 | Lopeppeppy | Tech geeks make their lives unnecessarily difficult. *bounces head off the wall* |
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| 15:42.28 | amro | what's the procedure for someone with a compromised account? |
| 15:42.45 | Ackis | I slept wrong :( |
| 15:42.49 | Ackis | amro: panic |
| 15:42.58 | amro | he's already panicking |
| 15:43.01 | amro | what should he do next? |
| 15:43.03 | krka | Lopeppeppy: is there a funny story in this? |
| 15:43.11 | amro | should I ticket on his behalf ingame? or is there another channel? |
| 15:43.27 | Ackis | amro: blame curse client for getting key logged is step 2 |
| 15:43.35 | Ackis | step 3 is have him call up blizzards accounting peeps |
| 15:43.42 | amro | here's the funny part |
| 15:43.52 | amro | he hasn't played since 3.2 and his account wasn't active |
| 15:44.00 | amro | but now it is and someone is on it and he can't login |
| 15:44.01 | cbreak | my guild had a similar person |
| 15:44.14 | cbreak | somehow, one of his alts was in ice crown herbing |
| 15:44.19 | cbreak | but he hasn't played in months |
| 15:44.28 | cbreak | so we asked him on the forum, he knew of nothing |
| 15:44.34 | amro | that's almost exactly what happened |
| 15:44.35 | cbreak | I think he contacted blizzard |
| 15:44.45 | amro | alts can sleepwalk now? |
| 15:44.47 | cbreak | (his main was not even in my guild anymore, and not on my server either) |
| 15:45.05 | cbreak | haven't heard of him since then. |
| 15:45.14 | amro | any idea which email address? |
| 15:45.22 | cbreak | no, sorry |
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| 15:46.25 | cbreak | http://www.wow-europe.com/en/support/ca-article.html |
| 15:46.45 | cbreak | ' If you ask Chuckle Morris about compromised accounts, he always says: "Never share your account!" ' |
| 15:47.10 | amro | thanks cbreak |
| 15:51.01 | olafski | calling really goes faster though |
| 15:51.16 | olafski | don't bother calling for him though I think, they will just ask you to have him call |
| 15:56.01 | olafski | I forgot.. what's the reason it takes 1 hour for my auction money to come in again? |
| 15:58.42 | Ackis | blizzard hates uis |
| 15:58.44 | Ackis | *us |
| 16:00.56 | Lopeppeppy | To piss off the auction botters, IIRC. |
| 16:02.18 | olafski | hm |
| 16:02.47 | cbreak | did you watch the old Superman movies? |
| 16:02.53 | olafski | I can only see it as a bad thing when you don't have enough money to buy stuff.. once you have enough cash, a few hundred/thousand g won't bother you if it comes in now or an hour later |
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| 16:03.06 | cbreak | just imagine, if you can get the interest rates of all that gold for one hour, you could make millions! |
| 16:03.20 | olafski | ;) |
| 16:03.26 | olafski | shame there's no interest in wow though |
| 16:03.35 | cbreak | ... oh my god... |
| 16:03.41 | cbreak | I forgot to put my money on the bank! |
| 16:03.49 | cbreak | I have to open an account |
| 16:04.02 | cbreak | ... damnit |
| 16:04.08 | olafski | ,) |
| 16:06.12 | Fisker | hey Lopeppeppy |
| 16:06.38 | Fisker | because goldsellers did transactions through auctions |
| 16:06.53 | olafski | they'll just arrive an hour later now though? |
| 16:06.58 | olafski | or does blizzard monitor that |
| 16:07.01 | olafski | and has an hour to respond |
| 16:07.15 | cog|away | that was the impression i got |
| 16:07.39 | Lopeppeppy | Oh, there you go, goldsellers, not AH artists. :) |
| 16:07.39 | cogwheel | gives them a chance to investigate any flagged transactions before they reach their destination |
| 16:07.50 | Shirik | Indication of how slow our computers at school are: |
| 16:08.18 | Shirik | When you go to print something, the printer prints one page, then sits at "Receiving incoming data..." for 15 seconds before moving on to the next page, every page |
| 16:08.27 | olafski | oO |
| 16:08.32 | olafski | that sounds pretty dire.. |
| 16:08.42 | cogwheel | wtf... you guys still using parallel cables? |
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| 16:10.57 | Lopeppeppy | Squirrel delivery system. |
| 16:12.43 | Ackis | I just cracked my back and it sounded like bubble wrap |
| 16:14.48 | Shirik | no cogwheel |
| 16:14.49 | Shirik | ethernet |
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| 16:46.39 | Shirik | oh fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu google |
| 16:46.55 | Shirik | Study guide question: 3.Shinto shrines were linked into a national network to promote what? |
| 16:47.11 | nicoli_s | sex! |
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| 16:47.43 | Shirik | Google books from the book in question: Shinto shrines, which for centuries had been purely local sites for venerating village spirits, were linked now in a national network that promoted... <no preview available for this book. Buy this book.> |
| 16:47.53 | Shirik | ONE MORE WORD, ALL I ASK |
| 16:48.04 | Fisker | yes |
| 16:48.05 | nevcairiel | hahaha |
| 16:48.05 | Fisker | yeeeeeeeeeeeeeees |
| 16:48.06 | Ackis | rofl |
| 16:48.12 | Fisker | i like this |
| 16:48.14 | Fisker | i hate you Ackis |
| 16:48.39 | Ackis | meh |
| 16:52.44 | foxlit | Shirik: I think you'll actually want two. |
| 16:53.30 | foxlit | And I'm wrong. |
| 16:53.52 | foxlit | "ceremonies to honor emperor and nation under the direction of a government department of Shinto affairs" |
| 16:54.18 | amro | wtf, scholo still requires a key |
| 16:54.54 | nevcairiel | of course it does |
| 16:55.00 | Shirik | how did you get that foxlit... |
| 16:55.09 | foxlit | Shirik: cool people get a preview. |
| 16:55.40 | Shirik | wtb preview :( |
| 16:56.39 | nevcairiel | i have the preview too |
| 16:57.41 | nevcairiel | must be a US thing that you dont have it |
| 16:58.58 | foxlit | The game needs an "I'm playing the wrong faction" checkbox |
| 16:59.10 | foxlit | That'd subsequently prevent you from trying to right-click on enemy flight masters. |
| 16:59.24 | Shirik | nevcairiel: Well at least we have music |
| 16:59.45 | foxlit | It could also be that Shirik has been previewing too many books lately. |
| 16:59.54 | Shirik | only this book really |
| 16:59.59 | Shirik | but maybe too much of this book |
| 17:00.14 | nevcairiel | heh |
| 17:00.33 | nevcairiel | I get images of the full book pages, sadly you can't copy paste of them :P |
| 17:00.38 | Shirik | You know, I have determined multiple choice answers really don't help students' knowledge on tests. This was my answer to the study guide: |
| 17:00.40 | Shirik | 4. The treaties prevented Japan from stopping a German ship captain from doing what? Cholera thingy |
| 17:01.05 | Shirik | Because I don't really need to know what exactly was stopped, so long as it was related to Cholera/medical holds, I will find the answer |
| 17:01.19 | Ackis | Fisker: I need a back rub |
| 17:01.21 | nevcairiel | multiple choice is a bad test design in general |
| 17:01.27 | nevcairiel | but USians like them |
| 17:01.35 | Shirik | USians? |
| 17:01.42 | nevcairiel | probably too lazy to read written answers |
| 17:01.45 | Shirik | Is this your protest against the term "american"? |
| 17:02.05 | foxlit | Meh, it works if you're asking for exact answers. |
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| 17:02.21 | foxlit | [And can make the problem complex enough so that the answer options tell you nothing] |
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| 17:02.24 | nevcairiel | if you have 4 answers that are similar yet not the same, it might work |
| 17:02.38 | nevcairiel | but if you can just guess by association |
| 17:02.39 | nevcairiel | meh |
| 17:06.53 | Shirik | nevcairiel: Isn't that how science works anyway? |
| 17:07.05 | Shirik | Just guess. If you prove yourself wrong, you still win |
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| 17:13.15 | Lunessa | Station |
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| 17:19.22 | Ackis | http://kotaku.com/5463668/latest-dante-stunt-buries-ascii-art-in-our-source-code/gallery/ |
| 17:19.32 | olafski | :D |
| 17:20.06 | Ackis | they put ascii art into the source code of web-pages they didn't own... scary |
| 17:22.02 | Kaso | I guess they bought ad-space on sites or something? |
| 17:22.09 | olafski | how is it scary.. they asked them to do it I guess :P |
| 17:22.15 | Kaso | though ads should be in iframes |
| 17:22.16 | Kaso | that or theyre lying about not being complicit |
| 17:23.25 | Ackis | they bought ad space, and the people on the sites didn't know about what was being done (at least editorial team) |
| 17:24.13 | olafski | suure ;p |
| 17:24.45 | Ackis | i need a back rub olafski |
| 17:24.48 | Ackis | you |
| 17:24.48 | Ackis | rub |
| 17:24.49 | Ackis | nao |
| 17:24.55 | olafski | no ty! |
| 17:27.09 | Ackis | :( |
| 17:27.11 | Ackis | but |
| 17:27.13 | Ackis | I need one |
| 17:27.25 | olafski | I need to play MUA |
| 17:27.34 | cbreak | mail user agent? |
| 17:27.43 | Ackis | cbreak: l2xbox360 n00b |
| 17:27.58 | nicoli_s | anyone gonna check out the new AvP today? |
| 17:28.09 | nevcairiel | why would i buy a console when i can play on my PC, anyway? |
| 17:28.15 | cbreak | microsoft unfiltered admirer? |
| 17:28.44 | Ackis | nevcairiel: I've been a PC gamer since... uhmm... early 80s, and I'm finding the console is just less troublesom :( |
| 17:28.49 | Ackis | last night I tried to play on the PC |
| 17:28.51 | Ackis | I got a raid error |
| 17:28.54 | Ackis | I'm like wtf |
| 17:29.00 | Ackis | so I went back to my console |
| 17:29.29 | nevcairiel | but i would've to spend money on even more hardware |
| 17:29.51 | cbreak | iPad :) |
| 17:30.00 | olafski | same here ackis :) |
| 17:30.05 | nevcairiel | an upscaled iphone? no, thanks |
| 17:30.05 | Ackis | I want an iTampon! |
| 17:30.16 | Ackis | olafski: it's sad but true |
| 17:30.18 | cbreak | nevcairiel: upscaled iPod Touch I thought |
| 17:30.22 | nevcairiel | oh right |
| 17:30.22 | olafski | I don't find it sad at all |
| 17:30.23 | nevcairiel | even worse |
| 17:30.28 | cbreak | don't think you can make calls with them |
| 17:30.37 | olafski | and there's no 3g on them either |
| 17:30.39 | Ackis | nevcairiel: plus my computer chair sucks ass now, it hurts my butt! :P Leather couch > shitty PC chair (my old good one broke :P) |
| 17:30.49 | nevcairiel | i have a shitty one too :( |
| 17:30.50 | olafski | well, not by default |
| 17:31.01 | nevcairiel | need to get a new one, but probably going to do that in my new place then |
| 17:31.03 | olafski | my pc chair rocks.. but I still love gaming while lying on the couch |
| 17:31.13 | olafski | ackis: does you has Rez yet? ;) |
| 17:33.04 | Ackis | olafski: nope, I'm too busy with Madden 07 |
| 17:33.30 | olafski | ew madden |
| 17:33.32 | olafski | well, time to cook.. cya |
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| 17:34.14 | foxlit | aaaaaargh. Devlisaur. |
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| 17:34.41 | Lunessa | Argh, OPie taints the LFD window! |
| 17:35.03 | foxlit | mm? |
| 17:35.19 | foxlit | wouldn't mind some taint logs of that. |
| 17:35.26 | Lunessa | I'll send you a log when I get home. |
| 17:35.53 | foxlit | [I'm sure that it does, but it's just such a pain to do anything with /console taintlog 2] |
| 17:36.05 | Lunessa | I recently reinstalled it, and it's pretty awesome. |
| 17:37.54 | foxlit | :) |
| 17:38.10 | cogwheel | sweet... when did they shorten the chicken escorts? |
| 17:38.59 | olafski | great innit |
| 17:39.17 | foxlit | I'm convinced they're also bugged |
| 17:39.32 | foxlit | chicken was like "Spacial anomaly! Danger!" and then nothing happened and it flew off. |
| 17:39.37 | foxlit | Total anticlimax. |
| 17:39.50 | cogwheel | i got to fight a few scorpids before it flew off |
| 17:40.14 | cogwheel | just did the tanaris one... omw to faralas |
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| 17:42.05 | Ackis | http://www.direct2drive.com/3/8387/product/Buy-Mass-Effect-1-+-2-Bundle-Download |
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| 17:42.28 | olafski | that one's shorter too |
| 17:42.30 | nicoli_s | not a bad price at all |
| 17:42.44 | foxlit | also "not current available" |
| 17:42.47 | foxlit | ^ly |
| 17:42.49 | nicoli_s | its us only |
| 17:42.51 | olafski | cogwheel: seems to be 3.2 |
| 17:43.08 | Ackis | nicoli_s: US and Canada! :P |
| 17:43.17 | Kraps | " I won't be second-guessed on my ship, by my ship." roflcopter |
| 17:49.47 | alestane | "Seems like every time we hear about Noah Cyrus she's doing something totally innapropriate for her age. " ...they aren't kidding, apparently. |
| 17:50.07 | cbreak | how old is she? |
| 17:50.22 | cbreak | did she get artificial teeth? |
| 17:51.12 | Thunder_Child | 9 |
| 17:51.32 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 17:52.50 | alestane | She's 9, and apparently she's modeling a line of fashionable lingerie targeted at children. |
| 17:54.35 | cbreak | sounds reasonable |
| 17:54.46 | nicoli_s | that shit is so fucked up |
| 17:54.50 | cbreak | you have to be prepared to be recorded on those new naked-scanners at airports |
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| 17:55.37 | cbreak | even as nine year old |
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| 17:57.45 | KarlKFI|work | alestane: http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/celebrities/gossip/3293609/Noah-Cyrus-not-designing-lingerie-for-kids |
| 17:58.01 | Ackis | I read an article that they couldn't scan people under the age of 18 on those scanners due to it being child pornogrpahy |
| 17:58.25 | Shirik | FUCK yeah |
| 17:58.27 | alestane | KarlKFI|work: Fair enough. |
| 17:58.30 | Shirik | I win at teaching |
| 17:58.46 | Shirik | Lab is supposed to run 11:15 - 2:15, students already done |
| 17:58.56 | Shirik | And now I go home to nap before my class |
| 17:59.02 | cbreak | Ackis: that was pulled |
| 17:59.06 | cbreak | now they can after all |
| 17:59.12 | Ackis | retarded |
| 17:59.17 | cbreak | nah :) |
| 17:59.34 | cbreak | I don't seem much difference between involuntary adult pornography and involuntary child pornography |
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| 18:00.05 | KarlKFI|work | you could always not fly in protest |
| 18:00.23 | foxlit | cbreak: Think of the children! |
| 18:00.24 | cbreak | I haven't flown in more than ten years. |
| 18:00.25 | foxlit | er.. |
| 18:00.34 | foxlit | Stop thinking about children!! |
| 18:00.54 | Shirik | bad foxlit |
| 18:01.02 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy, sic him |
| 18:02.10 | foxlit | KarlKFI|work: that article is odd. |
| 18:02.36 | foxlit | The caption under the picture seems at odds with the text, which seems inconsistent from paragraph to paragraph. |
| 18:02.43 | Kraps | wonders what it would be like to live at 1.2 surface gravity |
| 18:03.07 | KarlKFI|work | foxlit: l2read |
| 18:03.22 | KarlKFI|work | it's a clothing line, NOT a lingerie line |
| 18:03.35 | cbreak | so lingerie is not clothing? |
| 18:03.47 | alestane | "outerwear"? |
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| 18:06.16 | nicoli_s | so wait, they claim she isnt making a lingerie line because its not lingerie, its clothing that happens to be lingerie? |
| 18:06.27 | Shirik | lingerie is clothing that is best when taken off |
| 18:06.38 | Shirik | the other stuff is clothing that is best when put on |
| 18:06.53 | Shirik | alestane's "outerwear" |
| 18:07.15 | Ackis | Shirik: so if I was wearing lingerie you'd want me to take it off? |
| 18:07.23 | foxlit | nicoli_s: no, they claim that "We would never do anything inappropriate." |
| 18:07.29 | foxlit | Which is just incredibly awesome. |
| 18:07.31 | Shirik | if you were wearing lingerie I would prefer not to see you |
| 18:07.39 | KarlKFI|work | someone saw the page and called it slutty, the next person reported on that report and called it lingerie |
| 18:07.53 | KarlKFI|work | it's liek news telephone |
| 18:08.09 | KarlKFI|work | it's no worse than your average child beatuty content |
| 18:08.32 | KarlKFI|work | (which are generally horrific, but still not lingerie) |
| 18:08.35 | cbreak | She doesn't look particularly happy on that picture anyway. |
| 18:08.59 | alestane | Horde guild just observed on my server: "Blood Bunnies of Doom." |
| 18:10.34 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, doom. |
| 18:10.34 | KarlKFI|work | if you're reading news online you need to learn to check your own sources, because a lot of blogs just blog about stuff they read on other blogs and have zero integrety |
| 18:11.28 | nicoli_s | i dunno, i read the original article, and there was stuff shameful enough to be lingerie for 9 year olds |
| 18:11.30 | alestane | That was something I saw linked on Facebook, hadn't been terribly curious about it but yeah. |
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| 18:14.22 | KarlKFI|work | well unfortunately the source fashion designer website and the video they put on youtube have been taken down |
| 18:15.19 | nicoli_s | wonder why |
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| 18:15.44 | nicoli_s | i just remember seeing the pic of the girl and her friends on a stripper pole and i just wondered how much money will be enough before billy ray is happy |
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| 18:16.12 | nicoli_s | and man this AvP demo blows, cant even find a match |
| 18:17.53 | Kraps | amg, turians and quarians talking about sex |
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| 18:24.28 | Lunessa | nicoli_s: There's no such thing as "enough" |
| 18:24.36 | Thunder_Child | nicoli_s: that was from another time, he birthday i think according to the article |
| 18:24.40 | Thunder_Child | her* |
| 18:26.47 | Lopeppeppy | Money. Root of all fun. |
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| 18:27.55 | Ackis | http://www.nwfdailynews.com/news/call-25404-phone-report.html |
| 18:28.16 | Ackis | that story: woman called 911 4x about missing report, got arrested, during the search they found her phone in her pocket |
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| 18:31.46 | olafski | what a silly woman! |
| 18:32.39 | cbreak | she should have taken the battery out and hidden it |
| 18:32.52 | bluspacecow | ... |
| 18:41.19 | nicoli_s | man that AvP game was dissappointing as the alien |
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| 18:50.02 | durcyn | what? you could hide on the damn ceiling and ambush people, how is that disappointing |
| 18:50.25 | Arrowmaster | the new AvP game or one of the older ones? |
| 18:52.49 | nicoli_s | the new one |
| 18:53.18 | nicoli_s | durcyn: the controls just seemed off, like when you go from floor to wall or ceiling, the camera sways alot, and its really disorienting |
| 19:01.11 | Arrowmaster | doesnt that not come out till the 16th? |
| 19:01.37 | Thunder_Child | demo |
| 19:02.05 | nicoli_s | and it also didnt help that the quick find a match took 20 minutes |
| 19:04.29 | Arrowmaster | hmm dante's inferno special edition is ps3 only |
| 19:06.08 | Fisker | lol nicoli_s |
| 19:06.15 | Fisker | couldn't keep it for a minute or so before i said fuck this |
| 19:07.23 | Ackis | Arrowmaster: you planning on getting the game? |
| 19:07.32 | Arrowmaster | yeah |
| 19:07.45 | Arrowmaster | i like hack and slash games |
| 19:07.58 | Ackis | I'm wondering how it'll compare to darkstriders |
| 19:08.25 | Arrowmaster | ive heard darksiders wasnt that great, ive got it but havent opened it, was thinking about returning it |
| 19:08.58 | Ackis | ahh it looks interesting to me, I like that kind of story... right now the thing that's putting me off of dante's inferno is their PR team lol |
| 19:10.38 | Ackis | http://gizmodo.com/5463292/the-nipple-gamepad-t+shirt |
| 19:11.06 | Ackis | guess what t-shirt I just ordered for Chantelle? :D |
| 19:13.31 | kd3 | ahaha |
| 19:13.32 | kd3 | win |
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| 19:14.24 | nevcairiel | you can actually order those somewhere? |
| 19:14.25 | nevcairiel | where? :P |
| 19:14.40 | Ackis | I'm looking :( |
| 19:16.36 | Ackis | http://printshop.maryjane.ru/airwaver/15606 for russians :P |
| 19:17.55 | Ackis | http://justfun.spreadshirt.com/p2 |
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| 19:24.17 | Fisker | don't they have one for men Ackis ? |
| 19:24.35 | Ackis | Fisker: I have a pair of boxers like that, feel like inputing your code studly? |
| 19:24.47 | Fisker | who said anything about boxers? |
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| 19:28.44 | alestane | So, I just queued for HHoS because it's the only 5-man heroic LK achievement I don't have, and the group I did it with last skipped Krystallus. |
| 19:28.59 | Lopeppeppy | Of course they did. |
| 19:29.16 | alestane | Finally got a group, and they just want to do Brann and Sjonnir because it will take longer to do Krystallus than to drop group and wait out the deserter debuff. |
| 19:29.36 | Lunessa | alestane: lame. |
| 19:30.05 | alestane | So *I* have to drop group and requeue and pray for the right instance and a more patient group because they want their extra two badges as fast as humanly possible. |
| 19:30.23 | alestane | Before I get saved and can't requeue. |
| 19:30.39 | Lopeppeppy | Yup. |
| 19:31.03 | alestane | And the guy who was begging to do it short way? Former guildmate of mine. |
| 19:31.11 | nevcairiel | did they do that titan chick, at least? |
| 19:31.36 | alestane | nevcairiel: Nope, straight to Brann. "Takes 20 minutes longer to do the rest of the bosses." |
| 19:32.03 | alestane | Although Maiden is something like an extra four minutes for another triumph. |
| 19:32.19 | foxlit | triumph is the new heroism |
| 19:32.24 | foxlit | i.e. raiders do not care. |
| 19:32.26 | alestane | But none of them want to fight their way through the extra six trash pulls to do Krystallus. |
| 19:32.53 | alestane | Presumably they're on the first random of the day and are just there for the Frost. |
| 19:33.53 | Fisker | if it was me alestane |
| 19:34.02 | Fisker | i would tell you to fuck off and go do achievements in your spare time |
| 19:34.03 | Fisker | :3 |
| 19:34.16 | alestane | And I'm a warlock, so I can only possibly queue as DPS, and DPS queueing for a specific single dungeon can expect a half hour queue. |
| 19:34.34 | Fisker | easy solution then |
| 19:34.36 | Fisker | pull krystallus |
| 19:34.37 | alestane | Fisker: I would expect nothing less from you regarding achievements that can only be done in groups. |
| 19:35.15 | alestane | That soultion, however, equates to "get killed running for Krystallus by myself and abandoned by the rest of the group." |
| 19:35.39 | Fisker | naw |
| 19:35.42 | Fisker | you got an imp |
| 19:36.11 | alestane | Try and target the basteard from below and send a phase-shifted cretin in to firebolt him? |
| 19:36.20 | Fisker | yes |
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| 19:36.52 | alestane | It has a certain justice to it, but I would get votekicked so fast their bottprints would be branded on my ass. |
| 19:36.57 | alestane | boot* |
| 19:37.00 | Lunessa | I've been spending a lot of time using LFD, it never ceases to amaze me how many ways people can find to be dicks to strangers they never expect to see again. |
| 19:37.24 | durcyn | "people are dicks", discovered by Lunessa in 2010 |
| 19:37.25 | alestane | Lunessa: And like I said, the guy who was begging to fast run it was a guildie of mine before BC. |
| 19:37.44 | durcyn | get the man a placard or something |
| 19:37.52 | Lunessa | durcyn: Nah, people are dicks was discovered by Lunessa in 1975 |
| 19:38.44 | Ackis | I wonder, is tweeting to a MLA the same as writing to them? :) |
| 19:39.11 | Lunessa | The thing that pisses me off now is people queuing, using an AddOn to auto-accept the group, then sitting AFK at the door doing nothing while the rest of clear it, knowing they can't be kicked thanks to the grace period. |
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| 19:40.07 | Fisker | Blizzard should really disable that |
| 19:40.20 | Fisker | put a prep zone in each dungeon |
| 19:40.23 | Fisker | á la arena |
| 19:40.31 | Fisker | give 60 seconds prep > vote kick available |
| 19:41.21 | Lunessa | I'm guessing that they'll take the easy way out and protect the accept API |
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| 19:41.29 | Fisker | true |
| 19:41.33 | *** join/#wowuidev Shadowed (~Shadowed@li89-205.members.linode.com) |
| 19:41.36 | Lunessa | Or pretend that it's a non-issue |
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| 19:42.24 | Fisker | if they did the prep area thing they should just automatically put people in (if they're not tagged afk) |
| 19:42.59 | Ackis | auto-accepts Lunessa's queue then goes afk to poop. |
| 19:43.01 | Lunessa | I can understand why there are limits on Vote to kick. |
| 19:43.03 | Ackis | thanks for the badges! |
| 19:43.37 | Lunessa | Ackis has earned the achievement "You've Got to Be Shitting Me!" |
| 19:44.02 | Ackis | comes back from pooping... no badges still, time to eat! |
| 19:44.38 | Fisker | i wish they could just make votekick a bit intelligent |
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| 19:47.26 | Kraps | Conrad Verner is an even bigger dickhead here, nice |
| 19:47.37 | Kraps | stupid kids |
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| 19:55.41 | KarlKFI|work | if you do the right thing he turns out ok |
| 19:56.02 | KarlKFI|work | you hear a report about him on the news networks later |
| 19:56.16 | durcyn | wait, where's Conrad Verner in ME2? |
| 19:56.38 | KarlKFI|work | Illia |
| 19:57.04 | KarlKFI|work | i think it's called. same planet as the blue chick from ME1 |
| 19:58.22 | durcyn | i must've scared him off in my save, i never ran into him |
| 19:58.33 | KarlKFI|work | perhaps |
| 19:58.37 | durcyn | i don't think i ever told him to do anything but get lost in 1 |
| 19:58.51 | KarlKFI|work | you have to be nice to him 3 times i think |
| 19:58.55 | KarlKFI|work | in ME1 |
| 19:59.36 | KarlKFI|work | then in ME2 he's trying to be you. |
| 20:00.26 | KarlKFI|work | ME2 is more dependent on the first game than any other game sequel i've ever seen. |
| 20:00.41 | KarlKFI|work | it's kinda cool |
| 20:01.01 | KarlKFI|work | and i bet it sold them a bunch more ME1 copies |
| 20:03.32 | durcyn | it was originally announced as a 3-part game |
| 20:03.40 | durcyn | so they've been planning for that all along |
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| 20:12.55 | nicoli_s | i really need to give this ME game a try |
| 20:15.40 | Ackis | 15.72 MPG <-- is that good fuel milleage? |
| 20:15.46 | Ackis | nicoli_s: steal Kaelten's steam account |
| 20:17.01 | foxlit | Ackis: http://www.google.com/search?q=15.72+miles+per+gallon+in+liters+per+100+kilometers |
| 20:17.17 | nicoli_s | ackis, no |
| 20:17.21 | nicoli_s | thats pretty shitty |
| 20:17.25 | nicoli_s | the mpg i mean |
| 20:17.28 | Ackis | yeah I knew what is was about, trying to figure out what's "good" |
| 20:17.50 | nicoli_s | id say aim for at least 25+ if you can |
| 20:18.15 | Ackis | My vehicle is rated at 16/23 mpg so I guess I'm "spot" on :( |
| 20:18.52 | nicoli_s | its not horrible, but not that great either |
| 20:18.58 | nicoli_s | what kinda car? |
| 20:19.05 | Ackis | dodge journey, a cross over |
| 20:19.11 | Ackis | I'm just paying about $150 a month in fuel |
| 20:19.19 | Ackis | if only I could hook it up to my asshole |
| 20:19.32 | nicoli_s | get a diesel car so you can just use old grease |
| 20:20.43 | KarlKFI|work | 15 mpg was good 10 years ago |
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| 20:21.30 | Ackis | it costs me 12 cents in gas to drive a kilometre! |
| 20:22.19 | KarlKFI|work | yeah, costs me about a buck in gas to drive to work. and $4 in tolls. |
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| 20:25.24 | Lopeppeppy | I am very happy not to live on a toll road. |
| 20:25.37 | Ackis | ~9.5 km so $1.14 in gas for me to get to work! |
| 20:26.09 | NightHawkTheSane | is very happy to not drive. |
| 20:27.14 | kdtresh | usually costs me about 55 bucks to fill my tank |
| 20:28.16 | kdtresh | it was around 75 at the peak |
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| 20:29.00 | nicoli_s | its like 45 to fill up here |
| 20:29.13 | nicoli_s | probably more like 35 atm actually |
| 20:29.26 | Ackis | I remember gas prices 40 cents a litre when I was a kid, now they're 80-95 cents a litre |
| 20:29.42 | nicoli_s | ackis, people measure gas in gallons silly |
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| 20:30.11 | Ackis | nicoli_s: no, only americans do that and we've long established that they aren't people! |
| 20:32.33 | nicoli_s | yeah, but you who say we arent people are not people yourselves |
| 20:32.56 | Ackis | we aren't just people, we're the Queen's people! |
| 20:32.59 | Ackis | you don't have a Queen! |
| 20:32.59 | Lopeppeppy | checks her tag. Yes, she's people. |
| 20:33.00 | Ackis | HAH |
| 20:33.08 | Ackis | no you're a peppy! |
| 20:34.06 | Lopeppeppy | Oh. This is a new species? |
| 20:34.23 | Ackis | yup |
| 20:35.57 | mikma | speppies |
| 20:38.23 | Lopeppeppy | Sounds contagious |
| 20:38.36 | nicoli_s | i wanna get it |
| 20:38.45 | Fisker | i rage nicoli_s |
| 20:38.47 | Fisker | i rage |
| 20:38.59 | nicoli_s | i know fisker |
| 20:39.04 | Lopeppeppy | is not for sale, nicoli_s. Go lick the floor in the bathroom maybe? |
| 20:39.07 | nicoli_s | i thought there was a chance itd be this week too |
| 20:39.32 | Lopeppeppy | Nah, I only do releases on Wednesdays, sorry. |
| 20:39.45 | nicoli_s | oh Lopeppeppy, id never lick a bathroom floor, nor pay for....things, maybe just for free this one time...? |
| 20:40.03 | Fisker | it's annoying nicoli_s :( |
| 20:40.11 | Lopeppeppy | If you're not willin g to pay for it, I doubt you want it. :) |
| 20:41.23 | Fisker | So there we were "Hey here's that new Weekly ICC quest, oh it's rotface and festergut", then we were like "Rotface has been defeated", then we were like "Festergut at 20%!" then Blizzard were like "lol 10-20 seconds lag" then our maintank was like "OH SHIT 10 STACKS OF GASTREOUS BLIGHT" then our ranged were like "lol shit we have no hp", then our ranged were like "Oh teh nos, we're dead" |
| 20:41.41 | Fisker | Then festergut were like "oh boy i better throw some vile gas in the melee group since all the ranged died" |
| 20:41.51 | Fisker | Then i'm like "zomg rogues, hunters, mages drop combat quickly" |
| 20:41.59 | Fisker | Then festergut is like "lol pugent blight" |
| 20:42.26 | Fisker | then #wowuidev was like "Stop talking" :( |
| 20:42.47 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 20:43.42 | Fisker | the lag is just horrible now |
| 20:44.02 | Fisker | think the best dps we anyone could muster on two attempts were just over 5000 dps |
| 20:44.17 | nicoli_s | you should just play a sp game, youll be able to top the dps meter every time if it did exist |
| 20:44.22 | Fisker | it's like playing naxx again except the bosses have 3 times as much hp |
| 20:45.32 | Kraps | KarlKFI|work: would kneeing him in the bawls be the right thing? |
| 20:48.01 | NeoTron | http://www.wowarmory.com/ is pretty awesome atm |
| 20:48.18 | NeoTron | nice to know they are running apache tomcat 5.5.28 though |
| 20:48.30 | nicoli_s | looks normal to me neotron |
| 20:49.01 | Pneumatus | cool kids use tomcat6 |
| 20:49.52 | NeoTron | all I get is a 404 |
| 20:49.54 | Kraps | http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2010/january/love.jpg |
| 20:50.18 | Kraps | what |
| 20:50.22 | Kraps | is |
| 20:50.25 | Kraps | THAT |
| 20:50.30 | nicoli_s | thats hilarious |
| 20:50.39 | Pneumatus | lol "you're" |
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| 20:51.05 | awweaver | So how is every one? |
| 20:51.13 | nicoli_s | aight |
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| 20:52.56 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 20:55.49 | alestane | http://notalwaysright.com/north-of-the-moral-border/4097 ... hurray for equality? |
| 20:56.10 | Ackis | that's the nude beach one eh? |
| 20:56.52 | nicoli_s | whats so fucked up is in amercia women cant go topless unless they are protesting the fact that they cant go topless |
| 20:57.00 | Kraps | moves to Ontario |
| 20:57.31 | awweaver | Women can go topless, provided its in New York City\ |
| 20:58.43 | nicoli_s | yah, some cities have allowed it, but i mean everywhere else |
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| 21:00.26 | awweaver | the mother in the link is from the south im betting |
| 21:00.45 | awweaver | just sounds like it... |
| 21:00.46 | alestane | That's not something the U.S. has decided it needs to guarantee on a nationwide basis, and the only reason I can think of to override state privilege on that one would be the First Amendment. |
| 21:01.26 | awweaver | Freedom of no clothers? |
| 21:01.30 | awweaver | clothes |
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| 21:01.47 | Ackis | awweaver: all americans are "from the south" up here :P |
| 21:01.55 | awweaver | .... |
| 21:01.57 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 21:02.01 | nicoli_s | <- from the south for reals |
| 21:02.19 | nicoli_s | like pretty much as south as you can go before florida, which isnt the real good ole boy ignorant south |
| 21:02.20 | Ackis | everytime I think of alabama I think of Forrest Gump |
| 21:02.48 | nicoli_s | well lucky for us we are in like the progressive eden of alabama |
| 21:02.49 | awweaver | Yep.. |
| 21:03.32 | Ackis | so I was reading some info and it said to "get your own website to act as a portfolio" |
| 21:03.49 | Ackis | www.nudeackis.com is not appropriate I assume? |
| 21:04.23 | nicoli_s | always appropriate |
| 21:04.31 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ |
| 21:05.57 | Ackis | I'm thinking ackis.ca |
| 21:06.16 | Ackis | which I could still use if I ever move to california eh? |
| 21:06.18 | nicoli_s | i thought .ca was california |
| 21:06.32 | awweaver | no its canadia |
| 21:06.35 | Lopeppeppy | eh |
| 21:06.48 | awweaver | yes i speeled it wrong on purpose |
| 21:06.54 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, do not use your screen name for a professional portfolio. Just a weeeeee tip. |
| 21:07.01 | nicoli_s | oh silly canadians |
| 21:07.19 | nicoli_s | man i really need to update my irc nick to match the nick i use everywhere else |
| 21:07.55 | Lopeppeppy | And that's exactly why. :) |
| 21:08.11 | awweaver | http://notalwaysright.com/just-give-them-a-watered-down-answer/4094 |
| 21:08.12 | awweaver | .... |
| 21:08.37 | alestane | That the "What time do they turn off Niagara Falls" one? |
| 21:08.46 | awweaver | yes |
| 21:09.07 | awweaver | already seen it? |
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| 21:10.01 | NightHawkTheSane | what's amusing is that they actually can (kind of) shut off the falls |
| 21:10.19 | awweaver | .... |
| 21:10.56 | NightHawkTheSane | There's a hydroelectric plant there that diverts water from the Niagara river to generate electricity. They can change how much they divert. If they divert more... there's less water going over the falls |
| 21:10.59 | Lopeppeppy | Dams and locks for flood control. |
| 21:11.14 | Lopeppeppy | Nom nom electricity! |
| 21:11.29 | awweaver | NOM NOM NOM |
| 21:13.22 | Shirik | ew |
| 21:13.27 | Shirik | Sentence I just wrote: The prevention of loss of traceability of funds in the ATM at any time is of critical priority. |
| 21:13.29 | awweaver | whut? |
| 21:13.46 | awweaver | im confuzzled |
| 21:14.14 | Lopeppeppy | I understand, but you can write it much better. |
| 21:16.32 | Fisker | suck on my chocolate salty balls |
| 21:16.33 | Fisker | for example |
| 21:16.54 | nicoli_s | i can say it better: "dont loze muh moneyz" |
| 21:17.09 | alestane | It is of critical priority to maintain traceability of funds in the ATM at all times. |
| 21:17.10 | Lopeppeppy | I would not eat them with a fox, I would not eat them with some lox, I would not eat them with some jam, I would not eat them in a pram. |
| 21:17.19 | nicoli_s | ewww lox |
| 21:17.39 | nicoli_s | i love salmon but that shit is not for me |
| 21:18.05 | alestane | Or "it is a critical priority". |
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| 21:22.48 | Lunessa | Mah foodz, Peppy will not eatz dem. |
| 21:23.09 | alestane | You have salted truffles? |
| 21:26.54 | Lopeppeppy | So sorry, Lunessa, tempt me with a nice fresh orange next time. |
| 21:27.18 | Lunessa | tempts Lopeppeppy. |
| 21:27.39 | Lopeppeppy | Strap it onto a 747 when it gets warmer outside. :P |
| 21:28.58 | Lopeppeppy | I go home now. Bye bye, normal people! |
| 21:31.25 | cogwheel | looks around for these "normal people" peppy was talking about |
| 21:32.55 | Ackis | http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/129097254490440730.jpg+ |
| 21:32.57 | Ackis | http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/129097254490440730.jpg |
| 21:33.08 | cogwheel | lol |
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| 21:38.51 | Fisker | old news cogwheel |
| 21:39.21 | nicoli_s | so no new sc2 info right fisker? |
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| 21:45.16 | Fisker | nope |
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| 21:50.43 | Kaelten | anyone have any of the wikia people easy to contact? |
| 21:51.11 | Kaelten | masseffect.wikia.com is giving me a google safe browsing diagnostic page |
| 21:51.55 | Ackis | pfft |
| 21:57.48 | Fisker | i'm not |
| 21:58.02 | Fisker | btw herro Kaelten |
| 21:58.20 | Kaelten | ello |
| 22:00.09 | nicoli_s | anyone happen to have a lego universe alpha acct? |
| 22:00.55 | Cide | Kaelten, so is the dragon age site |
| 22:01.10 | Kaelten | :/ |
| 22:01.47 | nicoli_s | someone reported wowwiki doing it earlier |
| 22:03.34 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_while_John_had_had_had_had_had_had_had_had_had_had_had_a_better_effect_on_the_teacher |
| 22:03.54 | alestane | Can someone whose tolerance for stupid hasn't been as thoroughly depleted consider giving this guy a hand? http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=22748763775&sid=1 |
| 22:14.25 | Fisker | probably an ad then nicoli_s |
| 22:14.31 | Fisker | anyway AvP sucks ass |
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| 22:20.08 | nicoli_s | yah it does |
| 22:20.11 | nicoli_s | i was so dissapointed |
| 22:21.30 | Fisker | it's like |
| 22:21.36 | Fisker | BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP STUNNED DEAD |
| 22:21.54 | nicoli_s | yah the stunning blows |
| 22:22.03 | nicoli_s | i only got to play as an alien and was just unimpressed |
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| 22:22.22 | Fisker | and there's not even aiming involved since you have no idea where you're shooting because recoil and muzzle flash is so fucked up |
| 22:22.28 | nicoli_s | the camera movement from getting on/off walls was so shitty, and the jump move seems to activate at random times |
| 22:23.47 | nicoli_s | and the graphics looked so shitty in comparison to the screenshots |
| 22:23.55 | Fisker | true |
| 22:24.06 | Fisker | reminded me of Natural Selection 1 |
| 22:24.09 | Fisker | except worse gameplay |
| 22:24.19 | nicoli_s | never got to play that one, though it did sound interesting |
| 22:24.23 | nicoli_s | might at least try out the 2nd one |
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| 22:31.24 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: find disc nao |
| 22:31.32 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: (I'll bug you until you give me a real answer!) |
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| 22:31.49 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: (Unless you mix alcohol in with your previous answer. In which case, I'll believe it.) |
| 22:34.00 | Fisker | anyway nicoli_s |
| 22:34.18 | Fisker | if i recall correctly the beta mails usually come in my inbox during friday night/morning |
| 22:34.30 | Fisker | so less than 9 hours! |
| 22:34.38 | nicoli_s | we can only hope |
| 22:34.40 | Ackis | is a bastard |
| 22:34.42 | Ackis | muhahahha |
| 22:34.49 | nicoli_s | has anyone in here used askmyrobot before? |
| 22:34.51 | Fisker | indeed you are |
| 22:34.58 | Fisker | i don't have a robot |
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| 22:36.55 | nicoli_s | http://askmrrobot.com/WowSimulator.aspx its pretty damn cool |
| 22:37.01 | Fisker | it's old |
| 22:37.03 | Fisker | and not my but mr |
| 22:37.51 | nicoli_s | oh yeah whoops |
| 22:38.07 | Fisker | do you like me nicoli_s ? |
| 22:38.18 | nicoli_s | yer alright in my book |
| 22:38.57 | Fisker | ok |
| 22:39.00 | Fisker | donate via paypal then |
| 22:39.21 | nicoli_s | im broke |
| 22:40.47 | Fisker | oh |
| 22:41.04 | nicoli_s | nice try though |
| 22:41.10 | Arrowmaster | "Silverlight is a plug-in for your web browser that is similar to Flash -- it appears that your browser does not have Silverlight installed (or has an old version). " |
| 22:42.14 | Arrowmaster | "If you are using a Linux, FreeBSD or SolarisOS operating system, please press the Click to Install button to get the appropriate installation package for Silverlight." |
| 22:42.22 | Arrowmaster | i dont see a Click to Install button |
| 22:42.23 | nicoli_s | they have silverlight for linux? |
| 22:42.39 | Arrowmaster | nicoli_s: i was wondering the same thing |
| 22:42.39 | Dagmar | Let's hope not |
| 22:42.58 | Fisker | it's a replacement for flash |
| 22:42.59 | Fisker | so duh |
| 22:43.11 | Kraps | did anyone here have ashley williams as a love interest in ME1? |
| 22:43.14 | nevcairiel | there is silverlight for linux |
| 22:43.18 | Arrowmaster | i got redirected to http://go-mono.com/moonlight/ |
| 22:43.21 | Ackis | Kraps: I killed her |
| 22:43.21 | nevcairiel | its part of mono, calld moonlight |
| 22:43.29 | Kraps | Ackis: :( |
| 22:43.31 | Arrowmaster | i uninstalled mono |
| 22:43.53 | Ackis | Kraps: I was trying to bang the dude |
| 22:44.12 | Kraps | ... you were playing a chick |
| 22:44.21 | Arrowmaster | no he wasnt |
| 22:44.57 | Fisker | why did you kill her Ackis ? |
| 22:44.57 | Ackis | Kraps: yup |
| 22:45.04 | Ackis | Fisker: she's a bitch |
| 22:45.09 | Ackis | anti-alien |
| 22:45.21 | Ackis | Kraps: I gave up on the dude and ended up nailing the alien chic |
| 22:45.24 | Ackis | lezbo action! |
| 22:45.56 | Ackis | wtf they changed facebook on me again |
| 22:46.29 | Kraps | Ackis: that is so close-minded, you can sweet-talk or brute-force ashley into not being such a hater |
| 22:46.44 | Ackis | Kraps: I sweet talked her but then killed her |
| 22:46.57 | Ackis | it was like "choose him or her" |
| 22:47.02 | Ackis | and I was like "well I'm trying to bone him" |
| 22:47.04 | Ackis | so bye bye her |
| 22:47.11 | durcyn | realliy? i killed the ambiguously gay whiney dude. |
| 22:47.20 | Ackis | I let my penis do the thinking |
| 22:47.23 | Ackis | but I was a chic |
| 22:47.27 | Ackis | so it was a girl penis |
| 22:47.32 | Ackis | aka Fisker |
| 22:47.47 | durcyn | i can't play female characters straight, so i porked the asari on my femshep |
| 22:47.51 | durcyn | does that make me a lesbian? |
| 22:48.40 | Ackis | yeah I porked her too |
| 22:49.08 | Ackis | (I had to choose between the dude and the girl after killing ashely) |
| 22:49.44 | Kraps | durcyn: that was my first impression of him, but hes pretty cool actually. if you take him in the field he acts like a fucking robin to shepard's batman, but talking to him on the ship makes him seem cooler |
| 22:50.26 | Ackis | he wasn't as good as alister |
| 22:50.34 | Ackis | my heart swoons for alister |
| 22:50.51 | Kraps | i mean, i killed his teacher. WITH HIS MIND |
| 22:51.01 | Kraps | s/i/he |
| 22:51.14 | nicoli_s | are yall talking DA:O stuff? |
| 22:51.32 | Kraps | whos alister? |
| 22:51.37 | Ackis | nicoli_s: I live in a universe where DA:O and ME2 are one |
| 22:51.41 | Ackis | Kraps: DA:O person |
| 22:51.41 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 22:52.06 | Kraps | the warden guy? |
| 22:52.09 | nicoli_s | i still need to beat dragon age |
| 22:52.15 | Kraps | ^ |
| 22:52.53 | Ackis | I'm 1150/1150 in dargon age |
| 22:53.01 | nicoli_s | you play it on 360? |
| 22:53.14 | Ackis | yeah |
| 22:53.19 | Ackis | sucks compared to the PC |
| 22:53.24 | Ackis | (bought PC version also) |
| 22:53.31 | durcyn | honestly, the 360 version is a lot less tedious in combat |
| 22:53.33 | nicoli_s | yah i got the pc version |
| 22:53.51 | durcyn | it's more action rpg than micromanagement |
| 22:53.58 | Ackis | http://social.bioware.com/3885/ |
| 22:54.15 | Ackis | i has a low number! |
| 22:54.46 | nicoli_s | yah but it cant top me, i have curse auth id 3 :P |
| 22:54.58 | Ackis | NOT ANYMORE |
| 22:55.30 | Ackis | i haven't banned anyone in a while |
| 22:55.59 | Kraps | http://social.bioware.com/517032/ |
| 22:56.31 | Ackis | you're already my friend Kraps |
| 22:56.34 | Arrowmaster | ive got a high one i guess since i had issues with that stupid site |
| 22:56.43 | Kraps | i know right? |
| 22:57.01 | Arrowmaster | it wouldnt give me the display name Arrowmaster even though it doesnt appear to be used |
| 22:57.01 | Ackis | totally |
| 22:57.08 | Fisker | btw Ackis |
| 22:57.14 | Fisker | http://social.bioware.com/3881/ i own you |
| 22:57.41 | Ackis | wow Fisker lol you beat me by 4 |
| 22:57.49 | Kraps | "Worst Bioware game ever " whaaaaaaat |
| 22:58.21 | Ackis | yeah I posted in that thread :P |
| 22:58.36 | Kraps | yeah, looking at your thing |
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| 22:58.59 | Ackis | I said it was more of a FPS/RPG then a RPG/FPS and compared the game style to borderlands |
| 23:00.41 | durcyn | aw, my bioware number is 6 digits, i guess having a forum account with them for the past 7 years didn't count |
| 23:01.11 | Ackis | nope you had to recreate on the new social site |
| 23:01.23 | durcyn | it still imported my old profile |
| 23:02.22 | Ackis | I don't remember if it did mine |
| 23:02.40 | Ackis | I wish they would add space for adding their older games to your "have" list |
| 23:03.36 | durcyn | the cd key listing is still there |
| 23:06.07 | Ackis | yeah I have my games registered on teh old site |
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| 23:44.30 | Lunessa | Ackis: http://textsfromlastnight.com/Text-Replies-13341.html Reminds me of you for some reason |
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| 23:45.47 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v alestane] by ChanServ |
| 23:46.16 | alestane | ~logs |
| 23:46.17 | purl | All conversations are logged to http://ibot.rikers.org/channel, where "channel" is replaced by the URL-encoded channel name, such as %23freenode for #freenode. Lines starting with spaces are not logged. |
| 23:56.18 | Lunessa | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:56.56 | durcyn | perhaps what you say is so important that it should be preserved for future generations |
| 23:57.06 | durcyn | on second thought, use spaces |
| 23:57.22 | Kraps | my internets are slow |
| 23:57.38 | NightHawkTheSane | your tubes are probably clogged |
| 23:57.43 | NightHawkTheSane | try pouring draino in your computer. |
| 23:57.49 | WobWork | I've always prefaced any litigious (or is it libelous) statements with a space |
| 23:57.52 | WobWork | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:58.10 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: i think libelous/slanderous would be the appropriate term. |
| 23:58.19 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm still unsure which correctly applies though :( |
| 23:58.30 | WobWork | I know one is specifically for text |
| 23:58.41 | NightHawkTheSane | well, publications, really |
| 23:58.44 | Lunessa | durcyn: Nothing anyone in here has to say is so important it all needs to be logged. |
| 23:58.48 | NightHawkTheSane | irc is very informal/conversational |
| 23:59.07 | NightHawkTheSane | (its libel for written, to be sure) |
| 23:59.23 | Kraps | NightHawkTheSane: i need another truck maybe? |
| 23:59.24 | durcyn | Lunessa: you have distilled the point i was trying to make into fewwer words, with less sarcasm. you suck. |
| 23:59.43 | Lunessa | My work here is done. You can thank me later. |
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