| 00:00.17 | Jerub | http://www.cracked.com/funny-4-world-warcraft/ |
| 00:00.18 | DWSR | It's all that's in the shower. I use horse shampoo for my hair. It's really dry and curly, and the horse shampoo is the only stuff that seems to make it better. |
| 00:00.21 | Lopeppeppy | If it's not good enough to buy for yourself, it can't be orgasmic. |
| 00:01.03 | WobWork | DWSR: does it give you a shiny healthy coat? |
| 00:01.07 | Lopeppeppy | Horse shampoo is awesome stuff for curly hair. And I also hear that not washing daily is good too -- just rinse in the shower and go, totally makes the difference. |
| 00:01.09 | Nechckn | Cairenn go buy me the signed Caprica script, please. |
| 00:01.36 | Nechckn | What is this 3 day crap, anyway... I want confirmation today, not in 3 darn days!! |
| 00:02.08 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: Clairol makes some sort of "highly mosturizing" shampoo+conditioner that seems to work OK, but not as good as the horse stuff. |
| 00:02.40 | DWSR | And also, the horse stuff comes in 1L bottles for like $6. |
| 00:03.12 | Nechckn | "Horse stuff" just sounds so.. non-human-ish. |
| 00:03.16 | Nechckn | =P |
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| 00:03.39 | Lopeppeppy | I've used hoof lotion before, it's good stuff. :P |
| 00:03.51 | Lopeppeppy | Humans are animals too, you know. |
| 00:03.55 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 00:04.08 | Nechckn | I did not say that Humans were not animals. |
| 00:04.14 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: Not washing my hair seems to work better than rinsing it, though I might have shitty water where I am. |
| 00:04.26 | DWSR | I wash my hair every other day and it's done wonders. |
| 00:04.54 | Nechckn | lol, what does it do otherwise? |
| 00:05.08 | Nechckn | extra curly? |
| 00:05.21 | Nechckn | ponders the wonders of hair care. |
| 00:05.31 | WobWork | I had a friend like that at school. We called him Velcro |
| 00:05.44 | DWSR | Nechckn: If I wash every day, even with conditioner, my hair gets frizzy and dry. |
| 00:05.50 | DWSR | And doesn't curl well. |
| 00:06.00 | cog|work | DWSR: leave-in conditioner, imo? |
| 00:06.12 | DWSR | cog|work: Works alright. |
| 00:06.13 | Nechckn | Eww.. yeah, that would blow. |
| 00:06.30 | Nechckn | Use one of those crazy hair irons! |
| 00:06.32 | DWSR | cog|work: Leave-in's expensive though. |
| 00:06.41 | DWSR | Nechckn: Curling iron wtf? |
| 00:06.46 | DWSR | I already have curly hair. |
| 00:06.48 | Nechckn | sizzle, sizzle, sizzle... insta straight hair |
| 00:06.55 | DWSR | lulzno. |
| 00:06.56 | Lopeppeppy | If you can find this, take a look through: http://www.amazon.com/Curly-Girl-Lorraine-Massey/dp/0761123008/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1264637148&sr=8-3 |
| 00:06.58 | DWSR | So bad for my hair already |
| 00:07.06 | Nechckn | No.. hair iron, different.. makes it straight |
| 00:07.22 | cog|work | My hair is made up of four distinct hair types. The only time it ever does what i want without spray or gel is during the second week after a haircut |
| 00:07.44 | Lopeppeppy | It's a kick ass curly-hair book, and just ignore that it's marketed for gurls. |
| 00:07.45 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: 'marked. |
| 00:07.48 | Lunessa | lather on the brimo creme imo |
| 00:07.55 | Nechckn | knocks on wood and plastic. |
| 00:07.56 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: I tend to ignore a lot of that kind of stuff. |
| 00:08.18 | DWSR | If you've ever seen steel wool, that's what my hair looks like, 'cept in brown. |
| 00:08.22 | cog|work | srsly though, if i gave you a sample of my hair, you'd swear it was from four different people |
| 00:09.14 | Lopeppeppy | Take a look through the book, check out the comments section on the amazon site, there's good stuff. Guys can have nice hair too. |
| 00:09.19 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: see my car? |
| 00:09.40 | Cairenn | no, missed that |
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| 00:10.06 | Arrowmaster | just posted pics like 30 minutes ago on fb for somebody |
| 00:10.15 | Cairenn | ah, will look then :) |
| 00:10.19 | Nechckn | Cairenn did you get my script, yet? I'm counting on you to use your WoWI power to influence them!!! |
| 00:10.34 | Cairenn | Nechckn: lol |
| 00:10.35 | Cairenn | no |
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| 00:10.41 | Nechckn | laments that he is being ignored... |
| 00:10.45 | Nechckn | cries! |
| 00:11.02 | Nechckn | I said please and everything! |
| 00:11.33 | DWSR | thanks Lope, bbl. |
| 00:12.05 | Nechckn | I tried a bid on http://cgi.ebay.com/Ovechkin-Signed-Washington-Capitals-Jersey-8-XL_W0QQitemZ140377475289QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item20af2648d9 , too... since it fits my name on here and the Caps are our local team. |
| 00:12.32 | Lopeppeppy | If you're bidding on me, you have no other money to spend. |
| 00:14.35 | Nechckn | They have it all wrong, though. It should be like 1 day. |
| 00:15.12 | Nechckn | likes his shopping/donating gratification to be instant! |
| 00:17.32 | WobWork | made the cardinal mistake in Visual Studio. |
| 00:17.48 | WobWork | I hit F1 for the online help =( |
| 00:18.21 | WobWork | "Help update in progress! This may take SEVERAL YEARS TO COMPLETE MEANWHILE WE'RE LOCKING THE SYSTEM SO YOU DON'T BREAK ANYTHING" |
| 00:18.27 | Lunessa | Nechckn: What, I didn't catch that, I was ignoring you. |
| 00:18.28 | WobWork | rarar |
| 00:22.25 | Cairenn | Arrowmaster: holy shit! |
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| 00:23.04 | Cairenn | glad you're okay! |
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| 00:23.54 | Cairenn | I really should scan in the pics from when I rolled my car |
| 00:24.04 | cog|work | ditto for my 1st accident |
| 00:24.50 | cog|work | stupid digital cameras not being cheap the year after I left high school... |
| 00:25.48 | Cairenn | I rolled mine back in '87, while I was 7.5 months pregnant |
| 00:26.44 | Lopeppeppy | Damn, Cairenn! |
| 00:26.47 | Jerub | ooowww. |
| 00:26.48 | WobWork | recalls when a friend drove his volvo through a retaining wall |
| 00:26.56 | Cairenn | WobWork: eep |
| 00:27.02 | Jerub | I have a friend who at 63 has never sold a single bike he's owned. |
| 00:27.04 | WobWork | final score - Wall : 0 Volvo : 1 |
| 00:27.11 | Jerub | (and he's owned a large number of bikes) |
| 00:27.28 | Lopeppeppy | I've never done a roll, but I did two totals in the space of 3 months, along with a fender-bender at an intersection. |
| 00:27.43 | Jerub | i've only had minor accidents that cost lots to fix |
| 00:27.52 | WobWork | those volvos are built like tanks |
| 00:28.02 | WobWork | the car was older than -he- was, and it still survived =P |
| 00:29.21 | Thunder_Child | " You can't multitask on an iPad." jobs seriously fucked this one up |
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| 00:30.20 | Nechckn | There have been tablets for years... still do not see what the fuss is about. |
| 00:30.42 | Thunder_Child | tablets are small computers, this is a large iphone |
| 00:30.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: not that i think you're wrong, but i like how you can say that without having actually used it. :P |
| 00:30.47 | Thunder_Child | there is a huge difference |
| 00:31.14 | Nechckn | Thunder_Child true... but it is just missing a lot, imnsho. |
| 00:31.22 | Nechckn | I think it is sort of neat, but that is about it. |
| 00:31.48 | NightHawkTheSane | I see a lot of potential, but it depends on how devs use it. |
| 00:32.05 | NightHawkTheSane | The basic hardware format is pretty nice. |
| 00:32.33 | Thunder_Child | really? did i muss something? no ports |
| 00:32.36 | Thunder_Child | miss* |
| 00:32.52 | Thunder_Child | so no usb, no upgrading hardware |
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| 00:33.02 | Thunder_Child | etc. |
| 00:33.09 | NightHawkTheSane | er, and? |
| 00:33.29 | NightHawkTheSane | if you want a computer you can upgrade, buy one. this is not that :P |
| 00:33.57 | Thunder_Child | this is not a tablet either |
| 00:34.02 | Thunder_Child | it's a large iphone |
| 00:34.06 | NightHawkTheSane | did i say it was? |
| 00:34.11 | Thunder_Child | but jobs did |
| 00:34.11 | NightHawkTheSane | i just said i liked the hardware format. |
| 00:34.15 | Thunder_Child | thats my point |
| 00:34.41 | KarlKFI|work | i want a cheep 6" one |
| 00:34.43 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* jobs is a showman, what he says is designed to sell the product. |
| 00:34.53 | Lopeppeppy | Lurv. http://failblog.org/2010/01/27/name-fail-photoshop-win/ |
| 00:35.10 | KarlKFI|work | datapad ala star trek |
| 00:35.24 | Lopeppeppy | dies of snark. |
| 00:35.25 | Thunder_Child | right, but if you say one thing and give another, thats going to hurt |
| 00:35.52 | KarlKFI|work | you obviously are nto in marketing |
| 00:35.54 | Thunder_Child | KarlKFI|work: i would have been amused if it was named iPADD |
| 00:35.57 | NightHawkTheSane | not really. the concept of a "tablet" is mutable |
| 00:36.19 | Cairenn | a real iPad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFNQE_TzQNI |
| 00:36.20 | Lunessa | http://www.apple.com/ipad/pricing/ - Hrm, maybe out of my gadget budget. :/ |
| 00:36.44 | Fisker | good night cruel Cairenn |
| 00:36.45 | NightHawkTheSane | Lunessa: yeah, i was a tad disappointed at the price range. i was hoping a little lower |
| 00:36.49 | Fisker | ipad is shit |
| 00:36.51 | Fisker | get over it |
| 00:36.57 | Fisker | rages |
| 00:37.10 | Cairenn | Fisker: watch the video :p |
| 00:37.11 | Lopeppeppy | I don't have an iPhone, I'm not dying to try the iThing. |
| 00:37.16 | KarlKFI|work | i think the really cool application of iPad would be to have some aroudn the office to use instead of paper |
| 00:37.19 | Fisker | iPad: iPhone with a 10" monitor |
| 00:37.22 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: you'll kill yourself laughing |
| 00:37.24 | Lunessa | Fisker: I don't care. I like gadgets and toys. It looks like a fun one. |
| 00:37.34 | Fisker | already been posted a billion times though Cairenn :( |
| 00:37.36 | NightHawkTheSane | KarlKFI|work: yeah, actually most of the interesting uses I see for it are basically forms of paper/book replacement software |
| 00:37.44 | Cairenn | Fisker: fine :p |
| 00:37.57 | Dolby | a new ipad coming out next month... ipad maxi even more absorbent |
| 00:37.59 | KarlKFI|work | like have everyone bring an iPad to meetings instead of a 12 page design spec |
| 00:37.59 | Cairenn | 'scuse me for just getting caught up :p |
| 00:38.04 | NightHawkTheSane | I'm half tempted to learn obj-c and the API to try writing some GM/Player software for my pencil & paper d&d games |
| 00:38.06 | Fisker | np :P |
| 00:38.17 | Lunessa | NightHawkTheSane: Yes PLx. |
| 00:38.25 | NightHawkTheSane | combine that with a cheap projector, and that could be freaking awesome |
| 00:38.32 | WobWork | I thought about that |
| 00:38.34 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane: i agree with Lunessa |
| 00:38.36 | WobWork | but obj-c is painful |
| 00:38.38 | Lunessa | Cairenn: I *heart* you any way. :) |
| 00:38.43 | Cairenn | :) |
| 00:38.50 | KarlKFI|work | anyway, the options for apps are almost limitless |
| 00:38.53 | Thunder_Child | granted the best would be a surface |
| 00:38.56 | Lopeppeppy | I nearly peed my pants watching it earlier, Cairenn. |
| 00:38.59 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn, cog|away: pics of my first car up now too |
| 00:39.02 | NightHawkTheSane | KarlKFI|work: agreed, and i think the apps are what's going to make or break it |
| 00:39.06 | Fisker | i *sulphuric acid* you |
| 00:39.09 | NightHawkTheSane | not unlike the iphone, really |
| 00:39.49 | KarlKFI|work | right, on the plus side the iPad is better off than the iPhone v1 cause it's using a vetted OS with an existing and prosperous app store |
| 00:40.10 | Thunder_Child | hopefully the ipad will actually be able to open a large pdf |
| 00:40.12 | Nechckn | There are already a decent amount of apps for PC tablets... and they've not caught on. But, who knows, maybe the cool factor will help move everything forward. |
| 00:40.17 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah. and i'm sure they learned a lot from several gens of iphones |
| 00:40.35 | NightHawkTheSane | Nechckn: *shrug* the iphone caught on well enough, so who knows :P |
| 00:40.38 | KarlKFI|work | yeah, so programmers aren't starting from scratch |
| 00:40.42 | Fisker | but it's an iphone with a 10" monitor |
| 00:40.46 | Fisker | that is it's downfall |
| 00:40.53 | Fisker | Unless enough iTards can mitigate it |
| 00:40.56 | KarlKFI|work | good or bad, that's what it is |
| 00:40.57 | Nechckn | I don't see why it's not a slimmed OSX |
| 00:41.10 | Fisker | Heck their browser probably won't even support flash |
| 00:41.11 | NightHawkTheSane | it also doesn't have a contract with it |
| 00:41.14 | Fisker | i'll be lol'ing |
| 00:41.14 | Thunder_Child | thats what the iphone OS is |
| 00:41.20 | KarlKFI|work | it doesn't Fisker |
| 00:41.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Fisker: yeah, welcome to three years ago :P |
| 00:41.33 | Fisker | Exactly |
| 00:41.47 | NightHawkTheSane | personaly, i dont mind, but meh. |
| 00:41.48 | Fisker | So there's 0 reason for me to get an ipad |
| 00:41.55 | Nechckn | Thunder_Child true - but it's different enough so you can't move the apps back and forth. |
| 00:42.02 | NightHawkTheSane | I actually kind of wish flash would die a painful death |
| 00:42.08 | KarlKFI|work | blame Flash, their relationship with apple is why apple doesn't support it |
| 00:42.12 | Nechckn | At least none of the current productivity ones. |
| 00:42.22 | Thunder_Child | Nechckn: of course, then they wouldnt get as much $$ |
| 00:42.37 | KarlKFI|work | they made a shitty mobiel flash version and never improved it. |
| 00:42.42 | Fisker | anyways good night cruel world |
| 00:42.44 | KarlKFI|work | so apple never included it |
| 00:42.48 | Nechckn | But they lose out on the h/w sales and wider implementation. |
| 00:43.11 | NightHawkTheSane | apparently, flash is one of the leading causes of crashes on osx. its not a surprise that apple doesn't want it on their embedded platforms. |
| 00:43.51 | KarlKFI|work | html5 + javascript can easily replace flash |
| 00:43.53 | Nechckn | But, sure, it will likely be like all cool and stuff but it will be interesting to see if it leads to more transitions or just toy-ish like most of the "Apps" |
| 00:45.07 | KarlKFI|work | i do think we need a replacement for animatted pictures tho |
| 00:45.08 | NightHawkTheSane | Nechckn: agreed. I'm hoping the iWork implementation is nice, and sort of demonstrates a robust app, so others follow suite. |
| 00:45.12 | NightHawkTheSane | suit. |
| 00:45.21 | NightHawkTheSane | KarlKFI|work: can we just get rid of animated pictures? :( |
| 00:45.23 | KarlKFI|work | to replace gif/flash |
| 00:45.38 | KarlKFI|work | no, that's nto goign to happen. have you seen blizzard's sites recently? |
| 00:45.48 | KarlKFI|work | it's half animated |
| 00:46.16 | KarlKFI|work | if we had liek an animated png we could replace THAT use case of flash |
| 00:46.16 | NightHawkTheSane | i know :( |
| 00:46.35 | KarlKFI|work | then just use animated png + image maps + css +js |
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| 00:47.05 | KarlKFI|work | tho you could also animate it in js i spose |
| 00:47.13 | KarlKFI|work | usign image swaps |
| 00:47.17 | ajmitch | like SVG? |
| 00:47.20 | NightHawkTheSane | thats probabl more painful though. |
| 00:47.31 | KarlKFI|work | no one likes svg |
| 00:47.38 | ajmitch | partly because it's horribly complex |
| 00:47.43 | KarlKFI|work | ^^ |
| 00:48.16 | KarlKFI|work | you dont need open gl int he browser for animated images |
| 00:48.28 | KarlKFI|work | you need something simple and easy and small |
| 00:48.49 | KarlKFI|work | the benifit of a real format over image swaps is that you can conserve pixels between frames |
| 00:48.59 | KarlKFI|work | save bandwidth |
| 00:49.17 | KarlKFI|work | btu you'd still need the ability to manipulate which frame it was showing |
| 00:49.42 | KarlKFI|work | anyway, jsut an idea |
| 00:50.09 | KarlKFI|work | another thing i hate about flash: scrolling |
| 00:51.03 | KarlKFI|work | content in flash that requires scrolling makes me crush bunny rabit skulls |
| 00:51.24 | WobWork | hm, is frog@com a valid email address? |
| 00:51.31 | WobWork | (format?) |
| 00:51.42 | KarlKFI|work | and whoever decided flash was a good way to stream video needs to be shot |
| 00:52.55 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: i think the part after the @ might be invalid, but im not sure. |
| 00:53.58 | WobWork | NightHawkTheSane: =\ MailAddress accepts it as a valid one... |
| 00:56.37 | Ginji | I don't think it's invalid |
| 00:57.09 | Ginji | for example mailing from the terminal under linux |
| 00:57.23 | Ginji | <user>@<host> works |
| 00:58.19 | WobWork | Ginji: awesome |
| 01:02.32 | Lunessa | Flash can suck it. |
| 01:02.39 | Lopeppeppy | *purr* |
| 01:02.39 | Lunessa | And... I'm out for the night. |
| 01:02.47 | Lunessa | Ciao tutti |
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| 01:08.18 | Lopeppeppy | Tutti frutti! |
| 01:19.44 | Thunder_Child | bah, i hate download managers |
| 01:19.52 | cralor | Is it possible to decrease the delay on the AFK timer? |
| 01:20.22 | Thunder_Child | i dont think so |
| 01:20.26 | cralor | :( |
| 01:20.30 | Thunder_Child | i thinks it's a C thing |
| 01:20.40 | cralor | oh |
| 01:20.43 | cralor | shucks |
| 01:21.15 | cralor | I'm trying to figure out how I can tell if the user is "AFK".. the time where they leave the keyboard but not flagged. guess it's impossible |
| 01:21.27 | cralor | :) |
| 01:21.37 | cralor | unless they do something |
| 01:21.45 | Lopeppeppy | Nope, don't think so, unless they flag themselves. |
| 01:21.56 | cralor | Yeah |
| 01:22.17 | cralor | I'm trying to catch missed messages, and the most significant part is that "in-between" time |
| 01:23.37 | Thunder_Child | there are addons that record whispers |
| 01:23.54 | cralor | Like? |
| 01:24.50 | Thunder_Child | WhisperFu |
| 01:25.09 | Thunder_Child | and Girlfriend (if it's still alive) |
| 01:25.27 | Lopeppeppy | But will that help him determine if another player is afk or not? |
| 01:25.28 | Thunder_Child | hmm...maybe not girlfriend |
| 01:25.41 | Lopeppeppy | maybe I just am sitting there and don't want to answer his whisper. |
| 01:26.05 | cralor | True |
| 01:26.41 | Thunder_Child | unless you spam the msg, there is not much you can do |
| 01:26.59 | cralor | Yeah I guess so |
| 01:27.02 | Lopeppeppy | and if you spam me with whispers I *really* won't answer you. :) |
| 01:27.23 | Thunder_Child | which makes no diff then |
| 01:27.27 | cralor | Wait, why would you spam messages? |
| 01:27.54 | Thunder_Child | so that the msg shows up when they come back |
| 01:27.59 | Thunder_Child | assuming they were gone |
| 01:28.04 | cralor | oh right |
| 01:28.16 | cralor | Yeah I'll just have to leave it at AFK status |
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| 01:29.20 | Thunder_Child | now if you made sure that both parties have this addon then you could cache msg's and have them come back on a hardware event...i think |
| 01:29.44 | Thunder_Child | i'm not shure if you can trigger off any hardware event |
| 01:29.47 | Thunder_Child | sure* |
| 01:31.07 | Kraps | how hard is it to stand behind the tank? |
| 01:31.44 | cralor | !api getdate |
| 01:31.45 | lua_bot | CalendarGetDate: Returns the current date (in the server's time zone) (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/CalendarGetDate) |
| 01:33.00 | |Jelly| | Anyone have any issues with Windows7 and Ventrilo? Ever since my roomie upgraded, I lag on her vent but no one else's and we're on the same connection, etc. |
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| 01:33.25 | DWSR | Any DK tanks on? |
| 01:33.37 | cralor | |Jelly|: been fine for me |
| 01:34.28 | |Jelly| | Any ideas why she doesn't lag for me but I lag for her? |
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| 01:35.14 | ScytheBlade1 | |Jelly|: that statement is filled with possibility. |
| 01:35.24 | |Jelly| | :( |
| 01:35.51 | DWSR | |Jelly|: DoS'ing yourself. |
| 01:37.07 | WobWork | DWSR: I've been known to dabble |
| 01:37.20 | Lopeppeppy | Jelly, do you and she have the same vent build? |
| 01:37.55 | DWSR | |Jelly|: Your connection is probably swamped, and it's letting her connection have higher priority for whatever reason |
| 01:39.19 | Lopeppeppy | I did occasionally see that with TKFT and I, either we'd get on slightly different builds, or one of us would just overwhelm the other. |
| 01:39.41 | |Jelly| | DWSR: Is there any way to test that / fix it? |
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| 01:39.57 | Adys | http://www.chromeplugins.org/google/chrome-themes/pokemon-skin-9038.html |
| 01:39.59 | Adys | wow. |
| 01:40.21 | DWSR | |Jelly|: Make sure nothing but your vent and her vent is actively using your network connection. |
| 01:40.47 | DWSR | |Jelly|: After that, try testing her talking, you talking, and then someone else talking |
| 01:41.35 | cralor | If I want to display a frame when you come /back/ from AFK, I use the PLAYER_FLAGS_CHANGED followed by UnitIsAFK and UnitIsDND to make sure neither of those are true, right? |
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| 01:41.56 | DWSR | cralor: I use DND in raids all the time. |
| 01:42.48 | cralor | If I want this to fire when you come back from AFK only. Should I not include a DND check as well? |
| 01:42.53 | DWSR | No.\ |
| 01:42.56 | cralor | Ok |
| 01:43.06 | cralor | In any case, it still should work :P |
| 01:43.10 | DWSR | DND is for Do Not Disturb. |
| 01:43.13 | cralor | Right |
| 01:43.26 | DWSR | Something like "I'm RPing, I'm raiding, I'm cybering with my girlfriend" |
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| 01:44.48 | cralor | But couldn't that have the code run when you come fire DND? |
| 01:46.06 | DWSR | You could, but it's stupid to. |
| 01:46.11 | DWSR | Depending on what you're trying to do. |
| 01:46.14 | cralor | I'm saying that would |
| 01:46.40 | cralor | I want to run only when coming back. So you go /afk, then you move again... PLAYER_FLAGS_CHANGED fires, and i need to check that you are not AFK |
| 01:48.10 | cralor | if (UnitIsAFK("player") == nil) and (UnitIsDND("player") == nil) then |
| 01:48.27 | cralor | That look right? |
| 01:48.36 | DWSR | But you can be active and still DND. |
| 01:48.41 | DWSR | In which case your code won't fire. |
| 01:48.51 | ScytheBlade1 | You can be active and AFK as well |
| 01:48.56 | ScytheBlade1 | I do it (did it, rather) all the time |
| 01:49.13 | cralor | I know. but if I take that out, couldn't you say that it would run whenever you went DND |
| 01:51.13 | Trela | Adys: I love the comments about how that it such a high quality skin. It sucks bad! |
| 01:51.32 | cralor | What shall I do in this case, then? |
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| 01:54.48 | Shirik | Anyone heard of this upcoming game "Heavy Rain"? |
| 01:54.53 | Shirik | It looks really interesting |
| 01:55.40 | cralor | DWSR: Is there a workaround for this? |
| 01:58.00 | Nechckn | Yikes... need to remember ebay is not the wow AH! |
| 01:58.21 | DWSR | lulz |
| 01:58.31 | Nechckn | The anger creeps in when you keep seeing the "outbid" so it is too easy to bid way more than intended. |
| 01:58.34 | Nechckn | so sneaky. |
| 01:59.10 | Nechckn | needs to stay away. |
| 02:00.17 | Nechckn | That sounds like an interesting concept, Shirik |
| 02:00.24 | Nechckn | just from the wiki article... |
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| 02:01.16 | cralor | cries |
| 02:02.39 | Shirik | oh stste of the union |
| 02:02.45 | Shirik | forgot about it |
| 02:03.33 | cralor | Can you compare with nil? if value == nil |
| 02:04.02 | ScytheBlade1 | yes |
| 02:04.36 | Nechckn | Fun political theater is enjoyable to watch. |
| 02:04.48 | Nechckn | Wonder who will yell out this time? |
| 02:06.45 | Shirik | ha |
| 02:06.48 | Nechckn | boo.. they mucked up the intro |
| 02:07.04 | Nechckn | silly Sergeant at arms |
| 02:07.12 | Shirik | no politician is that stupid |
| 02:07.22 | Shirik | forgivable the first time, do it a second time and your career is over |
| 02:07.46 | Nechckn | Pfft.. should have been over the "firt time" |
| 02:07.50 | cralor | The following code will not run when going from "AFK" to not: http://pastey.net/132114 |
| 02:07.55 | Nechckn | Should have at least been censured |
| 02:08.15 | Shirik | it's live... |
| 02:08.30 | cralor | oh wait... |
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| 02:09.58 | Nechckn | Not censored, the person should have been censured. |
| 02:10.31 | Nechckn | Anywhoo.. off to open Ye old Ears. |
| 02:10.48 | kd3 | anyone got a link to the SotU drinking game? |
| 02:10.54 | kd3 | it's my birthday, I need an excuse to get trashed |
| 02:11.35 | Shirik | you need an excuse? |
| 02:11.49 | kd3 | no |
| 02:12.03 | Cairenn | eeek, I'm sorry kd3 |
| 02:12.09 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.3.x ToC: 30300 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Happy Birthday kd3! |
| 02:12.11 | kd3 | no worries |
| 02:12.16 | Cairenn | yes worries! |
| 02:12.21 | Cairenn | I try not to miss them |
| 02:12.22 | Shirik | omghappaibirthdaycairennissomean2u |
| 02:12.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Cairenn: you have yet to get one of mine ;) |
| 02:12.51 | Shirik | you can have mine |
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| 02:14.51 | cralor | plenty of birthdays to go around |
| 02:15.08 | cralor | quite a few in January? |
| 02:16.16 | kd3 | yar |
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| 02:20.19 | Shirik | oshi |
| 02:20.25 | Shirik | Obama just laid the smackdown on banks |
| 02:20.46 | ScytheBlade1 | works for one |
| 02:20.50 | ScytheBlade1 | is suddenly curious |
| 02:21.23 | ScytheBlade1 | What did he say? |
| 02:21.41 | Shirik | "If these banks can afford to pay big bonuses again, then the banks can afford a modest fee to pay back the taxpayers that bailed them out in the first place." |
| 02:22.04 | kd3 | still notes the party lines in the standing applause bits |
| 02:22.26 | Nechckn | Lol... good joke, there. |
| 02:22.47 | Nechckn | That was actually funny.. and telling. When they don't even aplaud for lowering taxed. |
| 02:22.55 | Nechckn | taxes.. rather. |
| 02:25.01 | kd3 | so glad I'm watching the c-span feed. no talking head commentary |
| 02:25.32 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.c-span.org/Executive/State-of-the-Union.aspx |
| 02:25.37 | Nechckn | I don't think any have it until after, do they? |
| 02:25.37 | ScytheBlade1 | for anyone who cares |
| 02:25.48 | kd3 | everyone's covering it live |
| 02:25.49 | ScytheBlade1 | click that link |
| 02:25.49 | Nechckn | just was flipping past a few and it is just him |
| 02:27.26 | Nechckn | Holy crap |
| 02:28.04 | cbreak | iPad > Obama. |
| 02:28.31 | Shirik | why is cspan giving me the feed faster over the internet than I get through my cable service... |
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| 02:28.41 | Shirik | faiiiiiiil |
| 02:28.42 | NightHawkTheSane | do you have comcast? :P |
| 02:28.47 | Shirik | no, I have something worse |
| 02:28.58 | NightHawkTheSane | ... what's worse than comcast? besides a steaming pile of human feces |
| 02:29.05 | Shirik | brighthouse, trust me |
| 02:29.08 | NightHawkTheSane | which really closely resembles comcast's corporate hq |
| 02:29.29 | Shirik | o.o were they just booing? |
| 02:29.55 | ScytheBlade1 | no |
| 02:29.56 | Nechckn | No.. bully, bully - ing |
| 02:30.02 | Shirik | o |
| 02:30.08 | Nechckn | Wait until he gets to healthcare... then you will hear booing |
| 02:30.11 | Nechckn | ;-) |
| 02:30.17 | Shirik | has a family guy flashback |
| 02:30.26 | Nechckn | Bully, Bully! |
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| 02:30.36 | Nechckn | That is one of the best, eva!! |
| 02:30.37 | Shirik | "What a bully day, isn't it a bully day?" "yes, bully!" "bully!" "bully" "Thank god we live in this time." |
| 02:30.42 | Thrae | Why do cats never understand, no matter how many times you correct them, that a keyboard is NOT for sitting on? |
| 02:31.04 | tekkub | Thrae: get an apple aluminum one |
| 02:31.09 | tekkub | and wirie it up to a remote |
| 02:31.13 | Nechckn | They need to get out the secret feline code... or the other cats will assume there is an emergency. |
| 02:31.32 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: but you're hands are there, so maybe if they sit there, you'll pet them |
| 02:31.36 | NightHawkTheSane | your* |
| 02:31.37 | Nechckn | They will then descend on your home enmass... so be sure to let puss-in-boots do his thing! |
| 02:31.52 | tekkub | I would get a shock collar for my cat... but I know I'd abuse it and end up not training him at all |
| 02:32.34 | tekkub | cat's laying on the floor belly-up oblivious to the world... *zap* |
| 02:32.37 | Thrae | NightHawkTheSane: I type fast enough my hands are not on the keyboard when the cat is looking at it. |
| 02:32.59 | NightHawkTheSane | Thrae: well then maybe he just hates you. :P |
| 02:33.24 | Thrae | And I doubt my cat is going to call out to all the other felines on #hardware, where I'm trying to find help for my ailing Samsung DLP TV that won't turn on anymore without indicator lights. |
| 02:33.45 | DWSR | Thrae: Perhaps he just froze the screen? |
| 02:33.52 | DWSR | So that he could type sekrit kitteh koed? |
| 02:33.53 | NightHawkTheSane | well, obviously not. he would join the secret kitty irc channel |
| 02:33.59 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 02:34.16 | Thrae | Isn't Cairenn an op on the secret kitty channel? |
| 02:34.21 | DWSR | kitteh! |
| 02:34.24 | DWSR | It's kitteh! |
| 02:34.36 | Cairenn | heh |
| 02:34.49 | NightHawkTheSane | ... does that mean Cairenn is secretly a kitty? |
| 02:34.53 | DWSR | yes |
| 02:34.54 | Cairenn | purrs |
| 02:34.58 | DWSR | see? |
| 02:35.13 | Cairenn | ~emulate cairenn |
| 02:35.14 | purl | ACTION purrs |
| 02:40.44 | Shirik | ~purr |
| 02:40.45 | purl | ACTION *purrs purrs purrs* |
| 02:41.01 | Shirik | o.O; |
| 02:41.43 | DWSR | ~emulate Shirik |
| 02:41.44 | purl | I'll whine about anything |
| 02:41.48 | Shirik | ^ |
| 02:41.52 | Dolby | hahahaa |
| 02:43.32 | Arrowmaster | so panopticlick.eff.org |
| 02:43.45 | Arrowmaster | with noscript blocking it i was 1 in 2500 or so |
| 02:44.07 | Shirik | ? |
| 02:44.19 | Arrowmaster | i told noscript to allow the javascript and took it again..... im unique out of 55776 tests so far |
| 02:45.30 | kd3 | Your browser fingerprint appears to be unique among the 55,899 tested so far. |
| 02:45.33 | kd3 | whee |
| 02:45.34 | kd3 | go me |
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| 02:45.45 | Arrowmaster | you enabled javascript didnt you |
| 02:45.50 | kd3 | ya |
| 02:45.55 | Shirik | Your browser fingerprint appears to be unique among the 55,922 tested so far. |
| 02:46.37 | Shirik | but what exactly is this supposed to proe |
| 02:46.38 | Shirik | prove |
| 02:46.48 | Arrowmaster | its because with the javascript it takes things like screen size, time zone, installed fonts, installed browser plugins and all that into account |
| 02:47.24 | Arrowmaster | http://yro.slashdot.org/story/10/01/27/1638216/Tracking-Browsers-Without-Cookies-Or-IP-Addresses |
| 02:48.58 | Arrowmaster | i assume that on windows its less likely to be unique, especially if you disable javascript and if you are using firefox make sure that the .NET plugin isnt adding its useless version info to your useragent |
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| 03:19.15 | Kraps | the president is speaking,nobody panic! |
| 03:19.58 | Thrae | Great. Now my OTHER cat jumped up on the keyboard while I was watching TV and eating (not using the keyboard), and sat down like it's his designated spot. So my keyboard has cat butt on it. |
| 03:20.17 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: does he have a towel? |
| 03:20.19 | Thrae | I gave in and fed them. They're on a flexible schedule which probably isn't the best thing. |
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| 03:21.49 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: i certainly hope so |
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| 03:28.44 | WobWork | Your browser fingerprint appears to be unique among the 58,053 tested so far. |
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| 03:29.01 | WobWork | 3k more in the last 45min |
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| 03:32.37 | Gnarfoz | obviously all from in here! |
| 03:33.13 | WobWork | basically, however, the more hardcore a internet user you are, the more unique your fingerprint |
| 03:35.06 | Gnarfoz | I found 'list of installed fonts' (via Flash) evil :O |
| 03:35.41 | Gnarfoz | haha, they obfuscated how many they've tested |
| 03:36.01 | Gnarfoz | hm |
| 03:36.16 | Gnarfoz | why does that text differ oO |
| 03:37.19 | Gnarfoz | Within our dataset of about ten thousand visitors, only one in 29,259 browsers have the same fingerprint as yours. |
| 03:37.25 | Gnarfoz | vs. |
| 03:37.35 | Gnarfoz | Your browser fingerprint appears to be unique among the 58,545 tested so far. |
| 03:37.45 | Gnarfoz | (without js vs. with js) |
| 03:47.37 | Kraps | the ipad looks nice |
| 03:48.01 | Kraps | of course it does, its an apple product |
| 03:48.49 | Shirik | but does it DO anything |
| 03:48.49 | Shirik | no |
| 03:50.23 | Kraps | looks like a kindle with more stuff |
| 03:51.56 | NightHawkTheSane | actually, its more like a bigger ipod touch, but with more stuff. |
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| 03:52.40 | NightHawkTheSane | the more i think about it, the more i think that, with the exception of wanting to play code & wow, i could use it in leiu of a laptop. |
| 03:52.43 | NightHawkTheSane | er.. |
| 03:52.45 | NightHawkTheSane | code & play wow |
| 03:52.47 | NightHawkTheSane | sighs |
| 03:53.11 | NightHawkTheSane | also, 'in lieu of' >< |
| 03:54.13 | Shirik | It's an ipod that wants to be a kindle |
| 03:54.14 | Shirik | that's all |
| 03:54.19 | Shirik | ipod touch* |
| 03:54.27 | Thunder_Child | congrats NightHawkTheSane, it's an $800 web broweser |
| 03:54.46 | NightHawkTheSane | er, except the whole, it runs apps that neither an ipod nor a kindle could |
| 03:54.58 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: better than buying a laptop and it being a 1500-2k web browser? |
| 03:55.19 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane: a 1.5K laptop would do far more |
| 03:55.23 | WobWork | NightHawkTheSane: or a netbook and save $500? |
| 03:55.23 | Thunder_Child | and you know it |
| 03:55.33 | NightHawkTheSane | and the ipod does far more than web browse. so be less dumb :P |
| 03:55.34 | Thunder_Child | ^ |
| 03:55.37 | NightHawkTheSane | ipad* |
| 03:55.38 | NightHawkTheSane | bah |
| 03:55.45 | Shirik | But it's APPLE |
| 03:55.49 | Jerub | there are some really good tablets coming out at the moment. |
| 03:55.51 | Shirik | It's WORTH $5 bazillion dollars |
| 03:55.52 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: i have a netbook, i actually dislike it |
| 03:55.56 | Thunder_Child | except for being bigger, the touch does just as much |
| 03:55.58 | Kraps | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/84946011/the-raid-promo |
| 03:56.04 | NightHawkTheSane | its too tiny to really do anything useful on. |
| 03:56.09 | WobWork | NightHawkTheSane: No, you hate the keyboard, really |
| 03:56.11 | Jerub | sure, apple released one, but apple hasn't created a new market segment, they're just thrwoing themselves into a market segment before it takes off without them. |
| 03:56.15 | Thunder_Child | well...more of an ipod touch iphone merger |
| 03:56.16 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: no, i hate the screen too |
| 03:56.26 | WobWork | Isn't it the same size screen as the ipad? |
| 03:56.38 | Jerub | Thunder_Child: huh, ipod touch is just an iphone without a cellular radio |
| 03:56.50 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: yeah, but probably lower quality |
| 03:56.51 | WobWork | Jerub: other way around, the itouch came out first =P |
| 03:56.53 | Jerub | i'm more excited about chromeOS and android than apple's offering. |
| 03:57.07 | Jerub | WobWork: whatever. |
| 03:57.17 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: same time, i think? |
| 03:57.22 | WobWork | eh, probably |
| 03:57.29 | NightHawkTheSane | iirc, they were released simultaneously |
| 03:57.37 | Thunder_Child | Jerub: i was saying that the ipad is a merger of the ipohone and ipod touch. since the ipad can not phone out, much like the touch |
| 03:57.50 | Jerub | Thunder_Child: it can't? it's got 3G... |
| 03:57.50 | WobWork | Thunder_Child: and hit by a steamroller |
| 03:58.03 | Thunder_Child | Jerub: it's not a cellphone |
| 03:58.09 | WobWork | wireless, no? |
| 03:58.15 | WobWork | just like the itouch |
| 03:58.19 | Thunder_Child | wireless and 3g |
| 03:58.25 | Jerub | Thunder_Child: are you saying it can't be hooked up to a bluetooth headset and used as one? |
| 03:58.27 | NightHawkTheSane | Jerub: the 3g is for data. i guess you could do voip stuff on it, but its not a cell phone |
| 03:58.29 | Thunder_Child | with a $30 unlimited data paln from att |
| 03:58.40 | Thunder_Child | plan* |
| 03:58.46 | Jerub | i've not seen any of the coverage. |
| 03:58.58 | Thunder_Child | it's atts 3g coverage |
| 03:59.13 | Jerub | ... media coverage. |
| 03:59.19 | Thunder_Child | oh |
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| 04:00.10 | ScytheBlade1 | http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/4/2010/01/5973697c09649e669716803dd9820485/original.jpg |
| 04:00.16 | Thunder_Child | http://www.techdealdigger.com/deals/free-terminator-salvation-download-at-cinemanow/23360 |
| 04:00.24 | Thunder_Child | nvm |
| 04:00.26 | Thunder_Child | expired |
| 04:01.04 | Thunder_Child | http://i.gizmodo.com/5458382/8-things-that-suck-about-the-ipad?skyline=true&s=i |
| 04:03.31 | Thunder_Child | NightHawkTheSane: ^ |
| 04:03.38 | NightHawkTheSane | i saw it |
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| 04:04.08 | NightHawkTheSane | and some of those are good points, but half of them are just bullshit superficial complaints, and some of them are "wah wah, this is why i still dont like an iphone" |
| 04:05.00 | Thunder_Child | the look, the camera, and the name are the only things i think are pointless |
| 04:05.27 | Thunder_Child | and maybe the touch keyboard |
| 04:05.29 | Jerub | 4:3 and no flash |
| 04:05.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: yeah, those are pretty lame complains |
| 04:05.53 | Thunder_Child | but then thatwas my point about convertibles |
| 04:06.05 | NightHawkTheSane | the touch keyboard and the app store reek of "omg, i hate the iphone" |
| 04:06.08 | Thunder_Child | s/thatwas/that was/ |
| 04:06.41 | NightHawkTheSane | Jerub: expecting it to support flash was dumb, anyone who's complaining about this is really barking up the wrong tree. it'd be nice, bt it was never going to happen |
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| 04:06.59 | WobWork | NightHawkTheSane: I dunno |
| 04:07.00 | Thunder_Child | well, i do agree with their concern about cencership |
| 04:07.03 | NightHawkTheSane | 4:3.. eh.. its a fair complaint, but the problem is 16:9 looks -shitty- in portriat, and the thing was meant to be used in portrait. |
| 04:07.11 | WobWork | I expect it to be a fully web browsable thing |
| 04:07.13 | NightHawkTheSane | 4:3 is a great portrait resolution |
| 04:07.19 | Jerub | hey, who cares if my expectaitons were never going to be realised, i'm not wedded to the apple stack |
| 04:07.21 | Thunder_Child | "censorship" |
| 04:07.23 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: and i expect the web to not be full of shit. :P |
| 04:07.26 | WobWork | What's the point of using it to browse the web if it doesn't render 1/3 of it? |
| 04:07.37 | WobWork | NightHawkTheSane: yeah, but the web is slightly larger in scope than the ipad |
| 04:07.48 | WobWork | and if -anything- is going to conform... it's not going to be the web =P |
| 04:08.02 | WobWork | So sure |
| 04:08.06 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: eh, we're getting to a point where you actually dont need flash to do what flash used to |
| 04:08.09 | WobWork | you can say "Well it sucks that Flash is so prevalent!" |
| 04:08.20 | Thunder_Child | all i'm saying is it's fine if you wanted a bigger ipod touch, but i dont think it makes a good tablet |
| 04:08.22 | WobWork | but it doesn't mitigate the fact that so many sites still use it |
| 04:08.35 | WobWork | and that you -need- flash to get the full experience of the web |
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| 04:09.29 | WobWork | Sure we can design websites that use minimal flash, but that sort of change is going to take time, a whole lot of time. And a viable replacement for Flash, of which there isn't one yet. |
| 04:09.44 | WobWork | meanwhile, you have a $800 tablet that doesn't render it. |
| 04:09.48 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: i think the not supporting more carriers, only having the one port, and the lack of a multitastic/robust desktop are salient complaints |
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| 04:10.00 | WobWork | multitasking lackage is pretty terrible |
| 04:10.06 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* |
| 04:10.10 | WobWork | I can handle it on the iphone, cause I don't use it that much |
| 04:10.13 | NightHawkTheSane | honestly, that's a time-will-tell thing, i think |
| 04:10.13 | Arrowmaster | perfect example of how to use flash wrong, imax.com |
| 04:10.31 | WobWork | but for something like a tablet, it's inexcusable =P |
| 04:10.49 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: i think inexcusable is waaay overboard |
| 04:10.52 | WobWork | the whole point of all that extra real estate is so you can see/do more |
| 04:11.09 | WobWork | NightHawkTheSane: it's ridiculous, that's what it is. |
| 04:11.13 | NightHawkTheSane | i could see not needing multitasking for most of what would do on it |
| 04:11.46 | WobWork | it's a tablet, isn't it? |
| 04:11.57 | WobWork | just about every other tablet on the market, that I know of multitasks |
| 04:11.57 | Thunder_Child | not only is there one port NightHawkTheSane it's the ipod port, which means there will always need to be more cables. |
| 04:12.11 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: if i say yes, you're going to lump it in with what you think a tablet should be, if i say no, you're going to ask me what it is. |
| 04:12.17 | sylvanaar_annoye | the simulator needs apps! |
| 04:12.17 | NightHawkTheSane | WobWork: so i'm not going to answer. |
| 04:12.18 | WobWork | ^^ |
| 04:12.35 | NightHawkTheSane | i think forcing labels on things, and then forcing them to behave according to those labels is silly |
| 04:12.39 | NightHawkTheSane | it is what it is |
| 04:12.53 | WobWork | well that's fine. If it does -more- than what the label implies |
| 04:12.54 | Thunder_Child | we didnt force jobs to lable it a tablet |
| 04:13.00 | Thunder_Child | label* |
| 04:13.13 | WobWork | if it does -less- than what other similarly typed items do |
| 04:13.17 | WobWork | then it's silly |
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| 04:13.29 | WobWork | and they're banking purely on the fact that it's an apple product to sell it |
| 04:14.17 | WobWork | Cause really, Apple -have- the capacity, and power to present an -awesome- product that blows all the other similarly typed items out of the water |
| 04:14.29 | WobWork | so seeing this is really a bit disappointing =( |
| 04:14.41 | sylvanaar_annoye | what were you expecting it to do |
| 04:14.47 | WobWork | Heal my raid =P |
| 04:15.02 | A-KO | the lack of multitasking really kills the product |
| 04:15.03 | Corrodias | they have the capacity, they just never exercise it |
| 04:15.04 | WobWork | well, be -better- than any tablet out there |
| 04:15.06 | A-KO | it's the #1 feature it's lacking |
| 04:15.10 | sylvanaar_annoye | could you imagine a tablet running slow leapord |
| 04:15.18 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: like i said, i'm disappointed with the ports thing. |
| 04:15.33 | Corrodias | so, what, apple made a pseudotabletpc? |
| 04:15.38 | WobWork | yeah |
| 04:15.45 | sylvanaar_annoye | its a big iPod touch |
| 04:15.46 | WobWork | they took an ipod touch, and stretched it out =P |
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| 04:15.56 | sylvanaar_annoye | with 3G data |
| 04:15.58 | Thunder_Child | if by pseudotabletpc you mean big ipod touch, then yes |
| 04:16.00 | Corrodias | oh boy, never seen anything like THAT before. clearly masters of innovation. |
| 04:16.09 | NightHawkTheSane | meh |
| 04:16.23 | NightHawkTheSane | you know, i'm not going to say its the second coming of christ or anything |
| 04:16.30 | WobWork | iJesus |
| 04:16.34 | NightHawkTheSane | or even that i'm going to buy one |
| 04:16.34 | WobWork | iProfit |
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| 04:17.32 | sylvanaar_annoye | really - it runs all the iphone apps - and i'd use it - browsing the web on my iphone sucks |
| 04:17.50 | Cloudwolf | Wooo laptop.... >.> <.< hmm time to get used to a laptops keyboard |
| 04:17.53 | sylvanaar_annoye | netbooks are too slow |
| 04:17.57 | Thunder_Child | sylvanaar_annoye: have you seen the prices though? |
| 04:18.01 | sylvanaar_annoye | yes |
| 04:18.09 | sylvanaar_annoye | $499-$899 |
| 04:18.12 | NightHawkTheSane | but i'd bet a sizable amount of money that a year from now, it'll be a successful product |
| 04:18.27 | Cloudwolf | Hmm Net |
| 04:18.32 | Cloudwolf | *netbooks?" |
| 04:18.35 | Corrodias | how does this differ from a netbook? |
| 04:18.41 | Thunder_Child | sylvanaar_annoye: and $30/mo for 3G |
| 04:18.47 | sylvanaar_annoye | its faster than a netbook |
| 04:18.48 | Cloudwolf | Yeah i expect they will be sucessful they just need upgrdes compared to what they come with. |
| 04:18.48 | Corrodias | cellular internet |
| 04:18.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Corrodias: depends on who you ask. apparently it just sucks more :P |
| 04:19.01 | Corrodias | ha |
| 04:19.18 | Thunder_Child | it's faster because it's new, thats about all |
| 04:19.20 | NightHawkTheSane | also, apple shot your mother to make it, and promised you a pony but didnt deliver :P |
| 04:19.33 | Cloudwolf | I'm liking windows hmmm nice n sleek. |
| 04:19.55 | Thunder_Child | it also promised to walk my dog and do the dishes NightHawkTheSane |
| 04:20.01 | sylvanaar_annoye | netbooks are underpowered, and run big os'es - its filling a market niche similar to the ebook readers |
| 04:20.15 | NightHawkTheSane | Thunder_Child: yeah, it was supposed to do my laundry too |
| 04:20.28 | Thunder_Child | sylvanaar_annoye: as compared to what? |
| 04:20.41 | Cloudwolf | Netbooks can be good but it involves voiding the warranty heh. |
| 04:20.46 | sylvanaar_annoye | ha |
| 04:20.47 | Thunder_Child | netbooks are perfectly powered for what they are ment to do, word and internet |
| 04:21.05 | Arrowmaster | they arent even ment for 'Word' |
| 04:21.15 | NightHawkTheSane | if by word you mean a text editor :P |
| 04:21.41 | Arrowmaster | now openoffice maybe, but Word no fucking way |
| 04:21.49 | Cloudwolf | I see you're trying to run microsoft word unfortunatly your ram is next to nil with a processor that should be put out of its misery. |
| 04:21.53 | Thunder_Child | yep, it works just fine |
| 04:21.55 | NightHawkTheSane | even openoffice is sluggish |
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| 04:22.42 | Thunder_Child | i have no lag with word when using a netbook |
| 04:23.12 | Cloudwolf | Then your netbook is better than my schools computers. |
| 04:23.22 | Thunder_Child | word, a browser with ~20 tabs, and some other misc stuff gives minimal lag |
| 04:24.18 | Cloudwolf | I gota test this laptop on games. If it out does my desktop i'll laugh. |
| 04:24.26 | Nechckn | Dunno about 20 tabs, but I know most things work just fine on the Dell mini |
| 04:25.24 | Nechckn | And.. honestly, I played WoW on my HP TC1100 for almost 2 years. Though no touch, it is surely a tablet. |
| 04:26.51 | Nechckn | I do agree that it appears meant for another market... but what that market is awaits to be seen. Don't think it is the "usual" crowd. |
| 04:27.06 | NightHawkTheSane | i suspect it might create its own market. |
| 04:27.18 | Cloudwolf | still talking about netbooks i presume? |
| 04:27.22 | sylvanaar | yeah - its an extension of ipod/iphone - not a laptop |
| 04:27.44 | NightHawkTheSane | sylvanaar: i'm splitting hairs and arguing semantics, but i'd say an evolution of the ipod touch, really |
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| 04:27.45 | Arrowmaster | it already has a market, the apple fanboys that will purchase whatever crap gets shoveled towards them market |
| 04:28.00 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: eh, there aren't enough of them to make it a success, though |
| 04:28.07 | Cloudwolf | IT has an apple on it thats colored white or glows! MUST HAVE! |
| 04:28.14 | NightHawkTheSane | not the same way the iphone has been a success, etc. |
| 04:28.22 | Nechckn | I just don't think it is different enough from an iPhone. |
| 04:28.24 | sylvanaar | there will be 50 android versions of the same thing |
| 04:28.44 | Arrowmaster | iphone is a very mediocre phone |
| 04:28.49 | Cloudwolf | Nechckn can you link what your talking about? |
| 04:28.53 | Cloudwolf | *would you link |
| 04:28.54 | Nechckn | some of those could well be more innovative, so that would be nice. |
| 04:28.56 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: so is every other smart phone out there. |
| 04:29.39 | Arrowmaster | seriously they had to GIVE AWAY FREE iphones to get people to use them in japan |
| 04:29.48 | sylvanaar | i got that nexus one, and i hated it - and returned it |
| 04:30.07 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, if google could put together something to compete in the same space, i'd be interested to see it. |
| 04:30.16 | Nechckn | Cloudwolf http://www.tabletpc2.com/Review-HPTC1100.htm |
| 04:30.25 | sylvanaar | i have google voice on my iphone now - - so im happy |
| 04:30.27 | Nechckn | if that is what you were requesting, that is |
| 04:30.53 | sylvanaar | its a little wonky how it works, but i can deal with it |
| 04:30.59 | Cloudwolf | Nah you switched onto an apple discussion based on iphones. What is apple making thats an iphone clone? |
| 04:31.12 | Nechckn | and prior to the tc 1100, I had the http://www.pencomputing.com/frames/ibm_transnote.html which was amazing |
| 04:31.26 | kdtresh | Cloudwolf: the macsy [i]pad |
| 04:31.30 | Thunder_Child | ty Nechckn, i needed to be pinged |
| 04:31.46 | NightHawkTheSane | Nechckn: wait, can you say that model number again? :P |
| 04:31.47 | sylvanaar | im running lua on the ipad simulator |
| 04:32.06 | Cloudwolf | ROFL the picture of that ipad looks like an iphone sized 10x larger |
| 04:32.15 | Nechckn | Cloudwolf ipad minus the speaker, mic, and camera == iPad |
| 04:32.24 | sylvanaar | i think is about 6 iphones |
| 04:32.32 | Nechckn | granted, not quite that crude, but pretty darn close |
| 04:33.10 | NightHawkTheSane | and probably good bit more powerful |
| 04:33.11 | Cloudwolf | hmm... |
| 04:33.14 | Nechckn | iPhone minus the speaker, mic, and camera, that is. Hopefully that is more clear. |
| 04:33.18 | sylvanaar | we'll prolly have to see how fast the cpu is |
| 04:33.29 | kdtresh | 1ghz, but it's a "custom" apple cpu |
| 04:33.41 | sylvanaar | whatever the heck that means |
| 04:33.41 | NightHawkTheSane | sylvanaar: here's tech specs: http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/ |
| 04:33.46 | sylvanaar | yeah, i read that |
| 04:34.00 | NightHawkTheSane | kdtresh: they acquired a company that made cpus a while back |
| 04:34.05 | Arrowmaster | speed is useless without knowing the architecture |
| 04:34.08 | Cloudwolf | 16gb? |
| 04:34.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: ARM based, is the most i know |
| 04:34.55 | Cloudwolf | it says flashdrive i assume they mean a SSD? |
| 04:35.25 | Nechckn | yep |
| 04:35.46 | Arrowmaster | no they likely mean exactly what 'flashdrive' ment before people invented the term SSD |
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| 04:36.03 | Cloudwolf | Well a ssd is nice but the storage is crap... i guess its suitable holding text documents and maybe a couple pictures. |
| 04:36.09 | kdtresh | it's flash memory, as opposed to a hard disk |
| 04:36.18 | sylvanaar | its not a pc |
| 04:36.20 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ |
| 04:36.30 | kdtresh | i imagine it's the same as the ipod/iphone |
| 04:36.44 | Arrowmaster | and every other mobile device out there |
| 04:36.47 | sylvanaar | it runs the iphone os |
| 04:36.53 | sylvanaar | same sdk |
| 04:37.03 | kdtresh | i don't consider it a ssd unless it has an interface like a normal disk, but that's just me |
| 04:37.05 | NightHawkTheSane | similar sdk, i suspect the actual os is different, but based on similar code |
| 04:37.15 | kdtresh | if it's got a sata port on it, i'll call it a ssd |
| 04:37.39 | Arrowmaster | sata or sas |
| 04:37.40 | kdtresh | i doubt the macsy pad has a sata drive in it |
| 04:38.00 | kdtresh | but it's possible, i haven't seen the innards |
| 04:38.01 | sylvanaar | i suspect its just flash memory |
| 04:38.12 | NightHawkTheSane | almost certainly |
| 04:38.53 | Nechckn | And... until someone actually has one or two to use, it is hard to say for sure. Little sideshows don't mean much. ;-) |
| 04:39.02 | NightHawkTheSane | ^ |
| 04:39.06 | kdtresh | especially marketing-based slideshows |
| 04:39.13 | sylvanaar | you can use the sdk simulator |
| 04:39.15 | Nechckn | *especially |
| 04:39.21 | NightHawkTheSane | Nechckn: thats pretty good commentary on just about anything |
| 04:39.35 | NightHawkTheSane | sylvanaar: that doesn't tell you a lot about the hardware, though |
| 04:39.54 | sylvanaar | true - but it tells you what the device will do |
| 04:39.59 | NightHawkTheSane | indeed |
| 04:40.02 | NightHawkTheSane | its enough to do dev work |
| 04:41.25 | sylvanaar | like i said though - it runs all the iphone apps - so i'd guess you would be able to transfer your apps from your phone to the ipad |
| 04:41.58 | kdtresh | so you can play paper toss on the pad? |
| 04:42.10 | Arrowmaster | sylvanaar: you mean purchase again? |
| 04:42.15 | sylvanaar | no |
| 04:42.29 | sylvanaar | i would think not |
| 04:42.30 | NightHawkTheSane | Arrowmaster: no. |
| 04:42.34 | Cloudwolf | Lol playing that shotgun app on the pad XD |
| 04:42.43 | NightHawkTheSane | you can just sync htem right to the ipad, without having to repurchase |
| 04:42.44 | kdtresh | ragdoll blaster |
| 04:42.58 | sylvanaar | exactly |
| 04:43.05 | Arrowmaster | if you have two iphones or an iphone + ipod touch can you purchase once and run on both at the same time? |
| 04:43.10 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 04:43.17 | Arrowmaster | ok |
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| 04:43.37 | Cloudwolf | Remember to back up things you buy from the apple store.... stupid one time download... |
| 04:45.52 | sylvanaar | im still trying to think of an iphone app to write - i want to publish something on the app store just to say i did it |
| 04:46.12 | sylvanaar | now that i have learned how to write them |
| 04:46.21 | Cloudwolf | Make an app that says this is an app. >.> |
| 04:46.44 | sylvanaar | maybe i'll make some developer oriented tool - idk |
| 04:48.01 | sylvanaar | this guy at work made some alarm clock app for android and he thinks he's hot shit |
| 04:48.24 | WobWork | sylvanaar: hehe |
| 04:48.28 | WobWork | he'll make MILLIONS |
| 04:48.33 | Cloudwolf | Heh. If os time = set time play annoying beep! |
| 04:48.46 | sylvanaar | i just laughed at him...j2me..you're a pro |
| 04:48.48 | Cloudwolf | ignore my fake code |
| 04:48.49 | WobWork | the android market might still be viable |
| 04:48.57 | WobWork | but the istore one is oversaturated |
| 04:49.19 | WobWork | if you're going to write an app, write one that you'll use, for yourself =P |
| 04:49.21 | sylvanaar | hey, the android features apps that steal money from your bank account |
| 04:49.30 | WobWork | the days of making money on the app market are long gone |
| 04:49.30 | sylvanaar | did you hear about that |
| 04:49.35 | WobWork | unless you already have a product tie in |
| 04:49.50 | Cloudwolf | Warning this app sends your bank account info to a random guy working for the government of china. |
| 04:49.54 | WobWork | sylvanaar: why do they have access to your bank account? |
| 04:50.07 | sylvanaar | WobWork no some guy made some apps that did it |
| 04:50.19 | Cloudwolf | Because people use thier phones to transfer money because it accesses google? |
| 04:50.26 | WobWork | so you put -in- your bank details to the app? =) |
| 04:50.29 | sylvanaar | yes |
| 04:50.31 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 04:50.33 | Cloudwolf | Rofl... |
| 04:50.34 | WobWork | >< |
| 04:50.49 | Cloudwolf | I wonder how many people did that. |
| 04:51.00 | sylvanaar | enough for it to make the news |
| 04:51.17 | Cloudwolf | Faith in humanity is pointless i see. |
| 04:51.54 | sylvanaar | i like that you can customize the android platform a bit - but that smacks of windows mobile |
| 04:52.35 | sylvanaar | i have developed for windows mobile for 10 years - and well its not fun supporting a bazillion processors and hardware configurations |
| 04:52.46 | Cloudwolf | lua> While x<5 do x=x+1 end |
| 04:52.46 | lua_bot | Cloudwolf: luabot:1: '=' expected near 'x' |
| 04:53.51 | Cloudwolf | Hey i have an error with my ap im using this phone can you fix it? NO no i can't fix it i don't use that phone so i can't test it. |
| 04:54.29 | sylvanaar | lol |
| 04:54.41 | sylvanaar | AND, no my app doesnt run in the simulator |
| 04:55.50 | sylvanaar | i like developing for iphone better than CE |
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| 04:57.02 | sylvanaar | then again - i like .NET better than obj-c, so if they get a device that i can develop viable .NET apps on - I'm all in |
| 04:57.06 | Thunder_Child | you dont develop for CE, you faceroll code |
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| 04:57.25 | WobWork | sylvanaar: hm |
| 04:57.30 | sylvanaar | CE for us is 4x less productive to develop on |
| 04:58.11 | sylvanaar | than a windows xp embedded system |
| 04:58.20 | WobWork | http://monotouch.net/ |
| 04:58.23 | sylvanaar | yeah |
| 04:58.23 | WobWork | sylvanaar: ^ |
| 04:58.28 | sylvanaar | i have it installed |
| 04:58.32 | WobWork | any good? |
| 04:58.37 | sylvanaar | its ok |
| 04:58.39 | WobWork | I've only heard about it |
| 04:59.08 | sylvanaar | really for iphone you should use obj-c or straight c |
| 04:59.53 | sylvanaar | i really hated learning obj-c, but now that i am familiar with it, i agree with that |
| 05:00.12 | WobWork | I've had a glance at obj-c |
| 05:00.16 | WobWork | it looks... messy =\ |
| 05:00.19 | Cloudwolf | gnighy |
| 05:00.24 | Cloudwolf | *gnight people |
| 05:00.33 | sylvanaar | WobWork it grows on you |
| 05:00.40 | WobWork | like a fungus? =) |
| 05:00.44 | NightHawkTheSane | parasites grow on you :P |
| 05:01.03 | WobWork | I'd probably look into it |
| 05:01.08 | WobWork | if I didn't have to have a mac to develop on |
| 05:01.16 | sylvanaar | you'd be sol |
| 05:01.54 | sylvanaar | wait what? |
| 05:01.56 | NightHawkTheSane | does anyone outside of apple/osx use obj-c for anything? |
| 05:02.04 | sylvanaar | probably not |
| 05:02.42 | WobWork | eh? |
| 05:02.43 | sylvanaar | its really the cocoa framework and the others that make obj-c desirable |
| 05:04.00 | sylvanaar | the language bridges to it - ruby, mono, lua - all are sub par in comparison |
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| 05:06.24 | sylvanaar | i hope win-mo 7 doesnt suck... |
| 05:06.40 | sylvanaar | anyhow - later |
| 05:06.51 | NightHawkTheSane | it probably will |
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| 06:10.00 | WobWork | http://i.imgur.com/G7sPE.png |
| 06:10.01 | WobWork | >< |
| 06:12.41 | Thunder_Child | i wonder why he is being charged as an adult |
| 06:12.57 | Thunder_Child | i mean, i'm all for it, but it seems odd |
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| 06:41.36 | batrick | what's with all the regular's getting excess floods...? |
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| 06:42.46 | Thunder_Child | batrick: "[christel] [Global Notice] Hi all, In preparation for the weekend's ircd migration we will need to take some servers out of production for upgrades, I am about to do a spot of rehubbing to continue the upgrades now. This may raise the number of splits for the next day, more information as and when will be available via wallops. Thank you for using freenode and have a great day." |
| 06:42.48 | Shadowed | I assume someone is abusing the CTCP bug that Shirik was talking about earlier |
| 06:42.59 | Shadowed | Splits aren't usually floods |
| 06:43.03 | Shirik | it's going on in another channel |
| 06:43.18 | Thunder_Child | might be unanticipated |
| 06:43.39 | Shirik | mode Shirik +w |
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| 06:44.09 | batrick | well that's strange |
| 06:44.17 | Shirik | ? |
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| 06:46.02 | batrick | oi shirik |
| 06:46.06 | batrick | play chess |
| 06:46.10 | Shirik | oi batrick |
| 06:46.16 | Shirik | I teach at 8 AM, I should be asleep already |
| 06:46.24 | batrick | QQ |
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| 06:51.05 | batrick | what do you teach shirik |
| 06:51.20 | Shirik | this semester? EE 1 :( |
| 06:51.40 | Shirik | this week is non-linear devices! |
| 06:52.49 | Thunder_Child | i want to take your class :( |
| 06:53.30 | Thunder_Child | honestly though, i can not picture you teaching |
| 06:53.33 | Thunder_Child | at all |
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| 06:55.49 | Shirik | why not :( |
| 06:56.20 | batrick | i'm teaching logic design :s |
| 06:57.33 | Shirik | any magic smoke yet? |
| 06:57.37 | Shirik | or do you just use a simulator |
| 06:57.55 | batrick | simulator |
| 06:58.07 | batrick | this new xilinx sim is buggy as fuck |
| 06:58.10 | Thunder_Child | you wouldnt like the answer Shirik |
| 06:58.27 | Shirik | hahahah xilinx |
| 06:58.35 | Shirik | the creators of industry-standard, horrible software |
| 06:58.49 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: You think I'm ugly :( |
| 07:00.13 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: i havent thought one way or another about your looks |
| 07:00.54 | batrick | i like xilinx :( |
| 07:01.32 | Shirik | I do too |
| 07:01.44 | Shirik | it just seems everything they produce is buggy as hell (their software, that is) |
| 07:01.50 | Shirik | their FPGAs are awesome though |
| 07:02.03 | Shirik | oh, buggy as hell AND like a million dollars |
| 07:02.53 | batrick | my students have to do magic shit like open/close the project and tap their heels to get the bench sim to work |
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| 07:16.44 | Hjalte | Does anyone know if it is possible to replace lines using Notepad++ like "number=x" where x is a random number? |
| 07:17.35 | NiLon | does it support regex patterns? |
| 07:17.42 | Hjalte | Yes, it does |
| 07:18.11 | NiLon | try then replace number=[0-9] |
| 07:18.28 | NiLon | number=[0-9]+ tho could be better :) |
| 07:18.57 | Hjalte | Cheers, I'll give it a try. |
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| 07:20.33 | Hjalte | It works for finding the text, but it doesn't keep the number when it replaces it, which then defies the point. |
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| 07:28.13 | Arrowmaster | Hjalte: try putting ([0-9]+) instead of [0-9]+ then use $1 in the replacement |
| 07:30.55 | Hjalte | Arrowmaster: Still no go. Can anyone recommend an editor that has better a better regexp replace? |
| 07:32.09 | Arrowmaster | sed |
| 07:34.08 | Thunder_Child | vi |
| 07:34.21 | Arrowmaster | sed is better |
| 07:34.21 | nevcairiel | notepad++ regex replace works perfectly fine |
| 07:34.39 | Thunder_Child | but i like bi |
| 07:34.40 | Thunder_Child | s/bi/vi/ |
| 07:36.04 | Hjalte | nevcairiel: It can't replace "sidenummer=([0-9]+)" with "sidenummer=$1&cmd=edit" :( |
| 07:36.09 | nevcairiel | use \1 |
| 07:36.11 | nevcairiel | not $ |
| 07:36.16 | nevcairiel | wtf is $ |
| 07:36.18 | Hjalte | Will try |
| 07:36.23 | Arrowmaster | i dont know |
| 07:36.29 | nevcairiel | which regex uses $? |
| 07:36.30 | Arrowmaster | i thought it was $n in something |
| 07:37.52 | nevcairiel | although i admit notepad++ could somehow come with a little documentation how the regex replace works, but meh :P |
| 07:37.58 | Hjalte | Cheers nevcairiel, that worked. And thanks Arrowmaster for making me moan enough to make nevcairiel answer. |
| 07:38.05 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 07:38.27 | Arrowmaster | i dont use notepad++ so why you were expecting me to give a correct answer i dont know |
| 07:38.37 | nevcairiel | i just got up and finished reading my forums and stuff! |
| 07:41.50 | Thunder_Child | Arrowmaster: because you answered the question |
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| 08:00.39 | ZorbaTHut | http://cams.pavlovian.net/tdu/everypull.jpg make sure to note the chatlog in the bottomleft |
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| 08:12.25 | Arrowmaster | ZorbaTHut: 19k hp naked doing heroic dtk? i could see that as doable |
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| 09:29.11 | nevcairiel | Shirik: where is Shiibot? |
| 09:29.26 | nevcairiel | ctcp spam and no bot :P |
| 09:30.00 | Zyn | gone, playing Mass Effect 2 |
| 09:30.38 | Zyn | shuts it down after playing for 10,5 hours straight |
| 09:30.38 | Zyn | .. |
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| 09:32.52 | smcn | zyn: screw you, i haven't been able to play more than 2 hours at a time the last couple days, overtime + raiding w/new guild |
| 09:33.00 | Zyn | :( |
| 09:33.15 | smcn | but i love it |
| 09:33.27 | smcn | i just wish bioware wouldn't release great games on tuesdays |
| 09:33.54 | nevcairiel | heh apparently shiibot was lost in a netsplit about 20 hours ago, so much for that awesome bot :P |
| 09:34.17 | Zyn | I went Engineer, "Huh? I get Combat Drone? Swwwwwweet! *rub hands*" ... only to find every enemy in the galaxy aim for it when spawned :C |
| 09:34.37 | Zyn | better call it Distraction Drone |
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| 09:36.55 | olafski | why not decline raids for a week :P |
| 09:40.26 | Industrial | o shi-mass effect 2 out? *enqueues* |
| 09:43.19 | Fisker | sweet tits |
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| 10:07.35 | Zyn | sure is birds with sugar on them in here |
| 10:08.24 | Fisker | it's a lie Zyn |
| 10:08.32 | krka_ | wait, i missed the link, can someone repaste it? |
| 10:08.32 | Fisker | they're using artificial sugar products on them |
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| 10:11.29 | nevcairiel | anyone know a python irc client library thats worth using? |
| 10:12.51 | Fisker | "import irc" |
| 10:13.20 | nevcairiel | that doesnt exist :P |
| 10:13.42 | Fisker | according to xkcd it does! |
| 10:14.52 | nevcairiel | there is irclib, but it hasnt seen updated for nearly two years .. either its perfect, or abandoned |
| 10:15.23 | krka_ | well, when did the irc protocol last update? |
| 10:15.40 | Fisker | i need a damn trinket nevcairiel |
| 10:15.48 | nevcairiel | i'm still always suspicious if a project is quite for so long |
| 10:16.21 | Kalroth | it's just over 1 year |
| 10:16.27 | Kalroth | 25th september 2008 |
| 10:16.30 | krka_ | would you prefer it if it had lots of "bump, updated TOC" commits? |
| 10:16.44 | Kalroth | "first version, revision 332" |
| 10:18.54 | nevcairiel | ew its still using cvs |
| 10:19.21 | Kalroth | git is for gits |
| 10:19.40 | Kalroth | real developers use a shared folder |
| 10:19.41 | nevcairiel | the libs looks pretty clean and organized though, guess i could fix it if something is broken in it |
| 10:22.53 | Wobin | Kalroth, lies. Real developers use reams of notepad paper |
| 10:23.10 | Fisker | real developers use Visual Studio's source control |
| 10:23.19 | Kalroth | Fisker: OUT WITH YOU |
| 10:23.23 | Wobin | eh we use Team Foundation Server |
| 10:23.30 | Kalroth | so do we |
| 10:23.35 | Kalroth | and its shite |
| 10:23.46 | Fisker | it's awesome |
| 10:24.42 | Fisker | this gotta be my luck Forge of Souls run |
| 10:24.49 | Fisker | only one melee |
| 10:24.57 | Fisker | and he has death's choice and darkmoon card greatness |
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| 10:25.17 | Kalroth | hilt will drop and you'll lose the roll |
| 10:25.38 | Fisker | of course |
| 10:25.43 | Fisker | but i don't really care |
| 10:25.49 | Fisker | except for the money i can get selling it |
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| 10:27.41 | Adys_ | http://questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic=1589 |
| 10:27.47 | Fisker | LOL |
| 10:27.55 | Fisker | the death knight has Shadow's Edge |
| 10:27.58 | Fisker | "Battered hilt please" |
| 10:28.09 | Fisker | he totally needs it! |
| 10:30.59 | Adys | http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-vandergaast-edns-client-ip-00.txt |
| 10:31.47 | Kalroth | http://toki-woki.net/p/scroll-clock/ |
| 10:32.07 | olafski | it would still get him quite a bit of money on the AH though fisker |
| 10:32.22 | Fisker | true olafski |
| 10:32.35 | Adys | ~kalroth== |
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| 10:32.46 | Adys | I'd ++ you but its not yours |
| 10:32.49 | olafski | I would most definitely roll need on a battered hilt even though I'm already wielding QD :) |
| 10:32.54 | Kalroth | :( |
| 10:32.58 | Bruners | Fisker: maby he wants to dual wield? |
| 10:33.07 | olafski | uhuh |
| 10:34.18 | Kaso | they should never have made battered hilt boe |
| 10:35.28 | Kaso | they go to massive effort to make the roll system for cross-realm instances fair and not promote ninjaing, then they make a massively rare and valuable unbinding drop drop in the new instances, which promotes people just acting like a dick because the four other people are people theyre never going to see again |
| 10:35.51 | olafski | indeed |
| 10:35.51 | Fisker | Bruners he just said it was for the money anyway :D |
| 10:36.02 | olafski | there is something to be said for being able to buy a good weapon though kaso |
| 10:36.04 | Fisker | (apparently that fucker has gotten 2, even though he just does randoms) |
| 10:36.17 | olafski | but I guess the acting like a dick part outweighs that a lot |
| 10:36.26 | olafski | my gf got a hilt on the first day, before the nerf :( |
| 10:36.29 | olafski | I had to buy mine |
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| 10:36.39 | Fisker | sweet |
| 10:36.43 | nevcairiel | another spam bot |
| 10:36.45 | Kaso | I want one, mostly for the quest line, not the item |
| 10:36.49 | Adys | Shirik: fix Shiibot |
| 10:36.50 | Fisker | why are channel ctcp's allowed anyway? |
| 10:36.52 | mitch0 | can someone paste the ignore line to ignore these ctcp stuff |
| 10:36.53 | zenzio | what makes you think so nevcairiel? |
| 10:36.56 | Kaso | but i wont buy one |
| 10:37.06 | nevcairiel | Fisker: freenode has no channel mode to disable them, afaik |
| 10:37.14 | Fisker | fail |
| 10:37.21 | nevcairiel | on quakenet you would just set +C on the channel and its solved |
| 10:37.22 | olafski | hm |
| 10:37.27 | zenzio | I'm surprised he could spam that many before the network picked up on it |
| 10:37.30 | olafski | there are other bots doing it too it seems? |
| 10:37.35 | Fisker | the network didn't |
| 10:37.37 | nevcairiel | zenzio: it didnt, he left on his own |
| 10:37.37 | Fisker | his connection did |
| 10:37.39 | olafski | 11:37:26 [freenode] -!- enynblrovpqc: No such nick/channel |
| 10:37.46 | olafski | got a whole bunch of lines like that in my status screen |
| 10:38.15 | nevcairiel | the best way is just to completly ignore ctcp in your client |
| 10:38.20 | olafski | ah nm, those were just from another channel |
| 10:38.22 | olafski | yeah |
| 10:38.31 | Bruners | i really don't understand why they bother |
| 10:38.43 | zenzio | doesn't freenode-connect do a CTCP VERSION when you connect? |
| 10:39.00 | nevcairiel | they do, but its not required to respond |
| 10:39.07 | olafski | /ignore * CTCPS |
| 10:39.09 | olafski | for anyone using irssi ;) |
| 10:39.11 | zenzio | really? I assumed it was |
| 10:39.18 | zenzio | that's nice, then I can just disable CTCP |
| 10:39.29 | olafski | well, they want you to visit that site obviously bruners ;) |
| 10:39.34 | Adys | its a channel wide ctcp |
| 10:39.46 | nevcairiel | I don't even see whatever url they spam in the version request |
| 10:39.49 | Adys | should be able to disable it |
| 10:39.56 | nevcairiel | my client just says "received ctcp version request" |
| 10:40.04 | olafski | want the url? |
| 10:40.06 | olafski | it's a pretty website |
| 10:40.08 | nevcairiel | no thanks :P |
| 10:40.13 | olafski | ,) |
| 10:40.13 | Fisker | they got some sweet tits |
| 10:40.18 | olafski | for free! |
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| 10:45.28 | *** topic/#wowuidev is http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.3.x ToC: 30300 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Happy Birthday kd3! |
| 10:45.39 | nevcairiel | purl, welcome back |
| 10:45.40 | purl | Welcome to the party, back! |
| 10:45.45 | nevcairiel | silly bot |
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| 10:47.35 | nevcairiel | anyone worked with multi-threating in python much? how do you do inter-thread-communications properly? |
| 10:47.58 | Fisker | i've learned that threatening your programming language, even multiple times doesn't work |
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| 10:48.13 | nevcairiel | s/ting/ding/ |
| 10:48.16 | nevcairiel | happy? :P |
| 10:48.25 | Fisker | no :D |
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| 10:49.04 | Fisker | giev forge of souls |
| 10:49.06 | Fisker | bah |
| 10:49.15 | Fisker | so 2xTOTC as daily heroic :e |
| 10:50.17 | olafski | meh at least it's quick |
| 10:50.21 | olafski | I got OK |
| 10:50.33 | olafski | with a 1k dps DK, 1300 dps rogue and a healer who had no clue |
| 10:50.42 | olafski | oh the hunter who did about my damage (pala tank = me) had no clue either |
| 10:50.57 | olafski | just kept dpsing the boss while he was immune and the guardian had to be killed :< |
| 10:51.19 | olafski | oh and they scattered all over the place on prince taldaram, so 2 guys died because we couldn't reach them in time :P |
| 10:51.25 | olafski | loves pugs |
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| 10:52.15 | Fisker | well yeah olafski |
| 10:52.18 | Fisker | but it's booooring :( |
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| 10:53.47 | olafski | all heroics are :( |
| 10:53.53 | olafski | this is why I prefer leveling :D |
| 10:54.02 | olafski | but somehow as soon as I enter outland I want to stop and start over |
| 10:56.52 | Fisker | ~seen Antiarc |
| 10:56.53 | purl | antiarc is currently on #wowuidev #wowace #curseforge, last said: 'http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFNQE_TzQNI'. |
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| 11:09.12 | olafski | http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/img/12646285031264628274705.jpg padum tish |
| 11:09.34 | zenzio | hehe |
| 11:11.39 | Kaso | no see, that'd be better, at least it could support multi-tasking |
| 11:12.11 | Fisker | ^^ |
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| 11:13.05 | Kaso | and could make phone calls |
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| 11:18.27 | Adys | Shadowed: ping |
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| 12:14.52 | olafski | kaso: but can it really not do multiple tasks at once? that'd be pretty pathetic |
| 12:17.43 | Fisker | it can't |
| 12:17.50 | Fisker | it's an iphone with a 10" monitor |
| 12:18.37 | Wobin | aiee =( |
| 12:18.44 | bleeter | without 3g |
| 12:18.49 | Wobin | WoW is seriously damaged and will need to be reverted to a prevoius version =( |
| 12:18.50 | Fisker | you can get it with 3g |
| 12:18.59 | Fisker | i'm laughing at you Wobin |
| 12:19.07 | bleeter | Fisker: but why would you want to? |
| 12:19.14 | bleeter | gotta get new sim, new contracts... |
| 12:19.20 | Wobin | Fisker, When really, you're crying inside |
| 12:19.33 | bleeter | manhugs Wobin |
| 12:19.37 | olafski | fisker: except it can't make phonecalls? |
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| 12:19.38 | olafski | or can it |
| 12:19.59 | Fisker | unknown now |
| 12:20.07 | Fisker | but a lesser iphone with 10" monitor then |
| 12:20.22 | olafski | ipod touch :) |
| 12:20.28 | bleeter | iirc wasn't announced could make phonecalls, even with bluetooth headset |
| 12:20.30 | olafski | at least you can listen to music and browse the web at the same time on that though |
| 12:20.32 | bleeter | yeah, big ipod touch |
| 12:20.52 | Fisker | i hope the iPad puts Apple out of business |
| 12:20.54 | Fisker | that would be sweet |
| 12:21.11 | olafski | don't bet on it :( |
| 12:21.14 | bleeter | I hope it gives Jobs cancer and he dies |
| 12:21.14 | olafski | I think it's too late |
| 12:21.26 | olafski | apple used to be the toy of the graphical industry |
| 12:21.31 | bleeter | Jobs meeting his maker would be the best thing for the company |
| 12:21.38 | olafski | but it seems nowadays there's hardly a point to using apple for that |
| 12:22.12 | bleeter | will be interesting to see the Maemo/Android response, also given Nokia's patent claims |
| 12:23.03 | airtonix | apple is just a self replicating affirmation device for the pscyhologically bankrupt |
| 12:23.34 | airtonix | turtle neck altte sipping orange sunglass wearing freaks |
| 12:24.03 | airtonix | goes back to his cave |
| 12:25.18 | Shirik | who's Howard Zinn? |
| 12:25.32 | Fisker | your mom |
| 12:25.47 | Shirik | nou |
| 12:26.03 | Fisker | no u |
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| 12:26.36 | Shirik | noou |
| 12:27.03 | Fisker | NO U |
| 12:27.17 | Shirik | no |
| 12:27.20 | Shirik | u |
| 12:27.30 | Fisker | u |
| 12:27.30 | Fisker | no |
| 12:27.38 | bleeter | wonder what the drop spec is on the ipad |
| 12:27.46 | bleeter | 'the length of steve jobs' cock' |
| 12:27.50 | Shirik | ^ |
| 12:27.54 | bleeter | ... about 1 inch |
| 12:28.22 | Shirik | I would love to see Apple implement some neew insane policy like their app store |
| 12:28.48 | Shirik | "If the device detects a drop of more than 1 inch it will immediately lock itself down for protection and you must take it to an apple store for repairs" |
| 12:29.17 | Fisker | i just wish apple would die |
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| 13:11.40 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=12304233407&sid=1#11 |
| 13:11.42 | Fisker | ... |
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| 13:14.59 | Arrowmaster | wow what an idiot |
| 13:15.44 | Arrowmaster | and with 470 people in his guild its obvious whats happening, somebody has a character in both guilds and they are likely just putting the vent password in the guild info |
| 13:16.50 | Wobin | They must be DISBANDED |
| 13:16.51 | Grum | OMG MY GF IS PREGNANT BECAUSE OF THE WOW PATCH |
| 13:16.53 | Wobin | oh sorry |
| 13:16.55 | Wobin | DISBANED |
| 13:17.13 | Fisker | wnice one Grum |
| 13:17.51 | Legorol | Wobin: DISBANNED |
| 13:18.29 | Wobin | Legorol, too many N's |
| 13:19.05 | Arrowmaster | neither are correct according to my spell correction |
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| 13:19.26 | Grum | its so awesome that that dude is thinking that all of the '470 members' are trustworthy :D |
| 13:19.33 | Wobin | Arrowmaster, I dunno about Legorol, but I was using the OP's spelling =P |
| 13:19.35 | Grum | oh its the european forums |
| 13:19.40 | Grum | i can post something annoying =) |
| 13:20.54 | Legorol | it can't be the EU forums.. EUrites can't possibly be such idiots... oh wait |
| 13:21.32 | Grum | i bet the guy is dk! |
| 13:21.49 | Grum | .... o gawd ... from a guild called: '< Horde Slayers DK >' |
| 13:21.59 | Grum | they dont even deserve an answer :D |
| 13:22.12 | nevcairiel | "make that guild stop or we ar around 300 Danish players taht stop playing the game " |
| 13:22.16 | nevcairiel | yes, please, stop. |
| 13:22.33 | nevcairiel | less danes in the game is good for everyone |
| 13:23.40 | Grum | less danes, less dutchies |
| 13:23.45 | Grum | shoot them all the fuckers :( |
| 13:24.06 | zenzio | dkdkdk |
| 13:24.10 | zenzio | sorry, I meant hehehe |
| 13:24.21 | Grum | dkdkdk |
| 13:24.26 | Grum | oh .. same ;( |
| 13:24.40 | nevcairiel | arent you a dutchie grum? :P |
| 13:24.51 | Grum | not when on the internet >< |
| 13:25.15 | zenzio | ooh, a closet-Dutch |
| 13:25.27 | Grum | oh no, but most dutch people are just beyond sad online |
| 13:25.38 | Grum | nonstop screaming, talking in dutch, using HORRIBLE names |
| 13:25.57 | zenzio | hehe |
| 13:26.06 | zenzio | I've met a few Dutch people in WoW, not all bad |
| 13:26.25 | zenzio | but I remember one of them had trouble pronouncing poison. Kept calling it "potion" |
| 13:26.29 | Grum | 90% of the people responding to: /2 ANAL [Dirge] are either dutch or dk |
| 13:26.44 | olafski | I knew it |
| 13:26.48 | olafski | gotta hate the dutch |
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| 13:48.55 | zenzio | peppy's here! |
| 13:49.27 | Lopeppeppy | Hi hi. |
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| 13:57.15 | bleeter | rock on serafinowicz http://www.funnyordie.co.uk/videos/167d70800c/the-ipad |
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| 13:59.56 | olafski | hahahaha |
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| 14:01.36 | olafski | I gotta get me an iPencil |
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| 14:12.13 | Wobin | I was thinking of the 2B model instead |
| 14:13.07 | olafski | that's coming out next year |
| 14:13.35 | olafski | Users who bought this item also bought: iSharpener - $149 |
| 14:16.56 | Proditor | anyone who has got a clue why something similar to this doesn't work? UnitDebuff(unit,GetSpellInfo(id)). Gives me a usage error |
| 14:17.59 | zenzio | need more info. What exactly does it say? What's "unit" and "id" in this case? |
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| 14:21.09 | Proditor | id would be a spell id, printing out GetSpellInfo(id) gives the spell name e.g. "Devouring Plague". There's nothing wrong with the unit, UnitDebuff(unit,"Devouring Plague") works. Message: Interface\AddOns\Gladius\Gladius.lua:380: Usage: UnitDebuff("unit", [index] or ["name", "rank"][, "filter"]) |
| 14:22.11 | Wobin | try UnitDebuff(unit,(GetSpellInfo(id))) |
| 14:22.27 | cbreak | GetSpellInfo will give you more than just the name |
| 14:22.36 | cbreak | it has several return values as far as I know |
| 14:26.02 | Proditor | Same error Wobin. cbreak, I tried with a select(1,GetSpellInfo(id)) as well, same error |
| 14:26.35 | cbreak | can you do local n = GetSpellInfo(id) |
| 14:26.40 | cbreak | and then pass in the var? |
| 14:26.45 | Caleb| | you need to use "unit" |
| 14:26.45 | cbreak | (on which line does it fail then?) |
| 14:26.47 | Caleb| | not unit |
| 14:27.02 | cbreak | I asume unit is a variable |
| 14:27.06 | cbreak | containing the unit string |
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| 14:27.27 | cbreak | wonder if the rank is mandatory |
| 14:27.35 | Wobin | well actually. What -is- unit coming to? |
| 14:28.01 | Wobin | aha |
| 14:28.03 | Caleb| | ifc if its a variable then no "" needed |
| 14:28.06 | Wobin | yes |
| 14:28.07 | Proditor | unit is a variable (nothing wrong with it) and the rank isn't mandatory since UnitDebuff(unit,"Devouring Plague") works fine |
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| 14:28.15 | Wobin | ["name", "rank"] |
| 14:28.19 | Wobin | you need both name and rank |
| 14:28.34 | Wobin | yes, but -what- is unit coming out to? |
| 14:28.37 | cbreak | maybe devouring plague only has one rank? Hmm... |
| 14:32.21 | Wobin | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:32.28 | Wobin | piecemeal is very difficult to debug |
| 14:32.56 | zenzio | would have been simpler if you had the debuff index instead of a spell ID |
| 14:33.18 | cbreak | you'd have to search yourself then |
| 14:34.53 | zenzio | maybe I just missed the idea of what he's trying to accomplish |
| 14:35.30 | cbreak | he's trying to call a method with the return values of an other method as arguments |
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| 14:40.24 | Kraps | irs snowing |
| 14:40.41 | Proditor | sorry for being slow I'm just a bit confused, trying things out, thanks for trying to help btw |
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| 14:51.39 | Proditor | here's a pastey: http://pastey.net/132150 |
| 14:53.23 | Arrowmaster | Cairenn: just noticed from the wowace forums but its somebody else's birthday today |
| 14:54.31 | Lopeppeppy | I found it on Facebook! |
| 14:54.36 | Recluse | anyone know the "type#" for secure button attributes to reference mousewheel up and down? |
| 14:56.05 | Arrowmaster | yeah well i only have two people in this channel on my facebook friends list so i wouldnt have found it there |
| 14:57.50 | Cairenn | Arrowmaster: whose? |
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| 14:58.05 | Arrowmaster | that azn dude |
| 14:58.28 | Arrowmaster | you expect me to make this easy for you? |
| 14:58.34 | Cairenn | heh |
| 14:58.47 | Kraps | "This is the *Lich-King's* mount. It has to be epic. 400% flying speed, 200% ground speed. When you mount, there is a thunderclap." |
| 15:00.53 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.3.x ToC: 30300 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Happy Birthday Xinhuan! |
| 15:01.54 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/s/invincible/ |
| 15:02.01 | Lopeppeppy | Yay! |
| 15:02.09 | Lopeppeppy | bakes birthday cupcakes for everyone! |
| 15:02.21 | Kraps | This mount changes depending on your Riding skill and location. |
| 15:02.25 | Kraps | what |
| 15:02.40 | olafski | sprouts wings |
| 15:02.46 | olafski | which will fall off if you enter a non-flyable area |
| 15:03.01 | Adys | works like HM mount |
| 15:03.04 | Adys | HH* |
| 15:03.11 | Adys | HHM*** |
| 15:03.24 | Kraps | the skill part got me, is all |
| 15:03.36 | olafski | no epic riding = 150% speed |
| 15:03.38 | Adys | if you got a riding skill of 75 |
| 15:03.39 | Kraps | and yeah, i have the HHM |
| 15:03.42 | Adys | you get a 60% mount |
| 15:03.52 | olafski | epic flying is what I meant actually ;) |
| 15:04.02 | Wobin | ... fall off? |
| 15:04.10 | olafski | yes they wither and fall off |
| 15:04.13 | olafski | even though they are already dead |
| 15:04.15 | Adys | its very painful |
| 15:04.21 | olafski | nono |
| 15:04.23 | Kraps | i'm just saying, people raiding 25m LK will have the skill |
| 15:04.23 | olafski | it's not |
| 15:04.28 | Wobin | although I think it'd be awesome for a level 20 bank alt to have it |
| 15:04.39 | olafski | adys: that preview about the mount says Invincible doesn't feel pain :) |
| 15:04.46 | Adys | rawr |
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| 15:07.00 | nevcairiel | Shirik: fix Shiibot already :P |
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| 15:15.03 | Fisker | slaps nevcairiel around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:15.04 | Fisker | bam |
| 15:17.03 | Lopeppeppy | Wah. |
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| 15:18.56 | Shirik | nevcairiel ? |
| 15:19.09 | nevcairiel | do you see it here? |
| 15:19.17 | nevcairiel | its been gone for 26 hours now, and you didnt even notice :P |
| 15:19.18 | Shirik | oh o.o; |
| 15:20.54 | Shirik | huh |
| 15:20.59 | Shirik | Freenode forcibly disconnected shiibot actually |
| 15:21.06 | Shirik | Terminated: Connection closed. |
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| 15:21.48 | nevcairiel | it was on one of the servers that was removed from the rotation for the ircd-seven migration |
| 15:22.16 | Shirik | I'm too lazy to code an auto-reconnection |
| 15:24.01 | Fisker | With addon comm will everyone (even users without the addon) get the comm? |
| 15:24.21 | Arrowmaster | yes |
| 15:24.24 | Fisker | kek |
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| 15:28.51 | Kraps | downloading win7 now |
| 15:29.43 | Lopeppeppy | Still debating that upgrade... |
| 15:30.15 | Ackis | don't sotp |
| 15:30.17 | Ackis | believing! |
| 15:30.26 | olafski | k |
| 15:30.27 | Gnarfoz | it's nice :P |
| 15:30.49 | Fisker | why debate Lopeppeppy? |
| 15:30.56 | Fisker | rabble rabble rabble? |
| 15:31.25 | Lopeppeppy | Upgrading is a pain in the ass, Fisker, and I have to do it twice. |
| 15:31.48 | Aelobin | can you put scopes on the boa bow/gun? :p |
| 15:32.09 | Kraps | ?the application cannot find one of its required files? |
| 15:33.29 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:33.37 | Fisker | baw? |
| 15:34.05 | Kraps | the exe download didnt work |
| 15:36.33 | Fisker | of ME2? |
| 15:36.58 | Kraps | win7 |
| 15:37.52 | Kraps | http://notalwaysright.com/customer-is-no-shrimping-violet/4004 |
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| 15:39.02 | Ackis | violates Fisker |
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| 15:44.25 | Wobin | Lopeppeppy, Win7 upgrade is actually the easiest upgrade I've ever done |
| 15:44.34 | Wobin | Aelobin, no |
| 15:45.05 | Shirik | pet Lopeppeppy |
| 15:45.05 | Kraps | the renegade decisions early in ME2 make you feel terrible already |
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| 15:46.23 | Lopeppeppy | A lot of people are saying that, Wobin. |
| 15:46.28 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Shirik. |
| 15:47.00 | Aelobin | thanks Wobin |
| 15:49.25 | Kraps | i only have 2 team members and i already made Tali angry at me and caused a young Quarian out of business (these 2 things are unrelated) |
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| 15:51.30 | Lunessa | station - or some other equally happy horseshit. |
| 15:51.53 | Kraps | yo yo Lunessa |
| 15:52.01 | Lunessa | yo |
| 15:52.24 | |Jelly| | hands Lunessa a brew. |
| 15:53.25 | Lunessa | Feeling better |Jelly| ? |
| 15:54.30 | Kraps | http://notalwaysright.com/by-then-it-wont-be-so-modern/3971 |
| 15:54.37 | |Jelly| | No |
| 15:54.58 | Fisker | planet |
| 15:55.51 | Lunessa | passes |Jelly| some NyQuil and a pillow. |
| 15:56.07 | |Jelly| | speaking of ... |
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| 16:04.56 | Kraps | that was fucking stupid |
| 16:05.24 | cog|away | morning |
| 16:06.17 | Kraps | cant the installer uninstall the "incompatible" programs ffs |
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| 16:12.13 | Shirik | uninstalls Kraps and his MW2 addiction |
| 16:12.58 | Kraps | what, did you just put MW2 to mess with my head? |
| 16:13.22 | Kraps | BECAUSE I NEVER PLAYED IT |
| 16:13.33 | nicoli_s | mw2 was cool |
| 16:13.42 | nicoli_s | im ready to try this battlefield bad company 2 game today |
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| 16:23.30 | nicoli_s | which we have keys for on curse btw |
| 16:26.23 | olafski | nicoli_s: what's that mean? authors buy these keys with reward points or something? |
| 16:26.58 | zenzelezz | nah, he was just showing off |
| 16:27.28 | olafski | hmkay |
| 16:27.43 | olafski | crawls back into eclipse |
| 16:27.57 | nicoli_s | olafski: anyone who has a premium acct can just get a ket |
| 16:28.15 | nicoli_s | key* |
| 16:30.08 | olafski | just like that? oO |
| 16:30.17 | olafski | that seems expensive |
| 16:30.25 | nicoli_s | for who? us? |
| 16:30.33 | nicoli_s | they are keys for the beta |
| 16:30.37 | olafski | ahh ok :P |
| 16:30.38 | nicoli_s | doesnt cost us anything |
| 16:30.40 | olafski | I thought the game was out already |
| 16:31.07 | nicoli_s | nope, beta starts in 30 minutes |
| 16:31.11 | theorbtwo | They are giving out beta keys like candy. That qualifies as very nearly out. |
| 16:31.26 | theorbtwo | Wait, this isn't the game I thought it was. |
| 16:31.38 | nicoli_s | http://battlefieldbadcompany2.com/ |
| 16:31.42 | olafski | I see "no game keys available at this time".. but no matter, don't think I would like BFBC2 anyway ,) |
| 16:31.54 | nicoli_s | are you premium and logged in olafski? |
| 16:32.02 | olafski | yer |
| 16:32.24 | olafski | not the paid premium btw, I got it from having my addon hosted there.. dunno if that's different |
| 16:32.32 | nicoli_s | nope it should be the same |
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| 16:33.13 | nicoli_s | actually, nm we had to take it down, since the game isnt live atm |
| 16:33.33 | nicoli_s | community manager ftl |
| 16:35.28 | olafski | ;) |
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| 16:41.15 | Fisker | i don't wanna not beta nicoli_s |
| 16:41.36 | Ackis | Antiarc: http://www.facebook.com/babiesrus?v=app_111895501427&ref=nf (I know you're a new daddy) |
| 16:41.57 | Ackis | other people with babies that's a free $5 from them :P |
| 16:43.07 | nicoli_s | huh fisker? |
| 16:44.29 | ckknight | Babies R Us bothers me |
| 16:44.38 | ckknight | I mean, I figured from Toys R Us I can get toys |
| 16:44.45 | ckknight | therefore from Babies R Us, I can get a baby |
| 16:44.58 | ckknight | I was sorely disappointed when that mother got all up in a huff |
| 16:45.06 | ckknight | she knew the implications upon entering that store. |
| 16:45.23 | nicoli_s | lol |
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| 16:46.27 | Ackis | rofl |
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| 16:47.35 | nicoli_s | btw, who added me on facebook the other day |
| 16:47.40 | nicoli_s | it was someone from here but i have no idea who |
| 16:48.23 | Lopeppeppy | You'd have to either say THEIR name, or YOUR name, to find out! |
| 16:48.46 | nicoli_s | my name is nicolas |
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| 16:49.04 | Lopeppeppy | It was not The Peppy who did it. |
| 16:49.09 | jnwhiteh | Did anyone else get a copy of the book yet? |
| 16:49.16 | jnwhiteh | I haven't gotten mine, lol |
| 16:49.43 | nicoli_s | i havent gotten mine |
| 16:50.57 | Ackis | nicoli_s: could have been olafski or Jim-Bim |
| 16:51.07 | nicoli_s | it was jim-bim |
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| 16:52.00 | nicoli_s | who is that |
| 16:52.06 | nicoli_s | ahh arl person |
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| 16:52.50 | olafski | I don't add random people on facebook ackis ;p |
| 16:53.04 | olafski | some guy added me the other day though, was that you? |
| 16:53.23 | Ackis | i think so |
| 16:53.30 | Ackis | I hit hte button "add people from msn" |
| 16:53.36 | olafski | :) |
| 16:53.50 | olafski | I have like 20 friend requests pending, have no clue who most of them are :P |
| 16:54.57 | Ackis | http://www.rathergood.com/fishy |
| 16:57.34 | Lopeppeppy | Blame Ackis |
| 16:57.59 | Ackis | :( |
| 16:59.52 | Ackis | one day, something will be Lopeppeppy's fault |
| 17:01.12 | mikma | http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2010/01/this_will_make_you_so_inspired.php |
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| 17:05.44 | mikma | jesus |
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| 17:05.54 | mikma | avatar, 1.859 billion dollars so far |
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| 17:08.37 | olafski | tickets are more expensive for 3d films I hear! |
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| 17:09.24 | nicoli_s | like 2 bucks more |
| 17:09.29 | nicoli_s | it was worth it imho |
| 17:09.45 | mikma | well worth it |
| 17:09.53 | mikma | first time i ever watched a movie in 3D |
| 17:09.59 | nicoli_s | ditto |
| 17:10.36 | VonhintenHOME` | Didn't catch any of the 3D attempts in the 80's? |
| 17:10.41 | VonhintenHOME` | they were terrible |
| 17:10.52 | mikma | oh, actually i did. Nightmare in Elm Street 7 |
| 17:10.59 | mikma | in redgreen 3D |
| 17:11.04 | Lopeppeppy | Jaws... 3? Ugh. |
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| 17:11.49 | Lopeppeppy | 3d glasses now fit on OVER my regular ones, so I'm willing to watch 'em again. |
| 17:12.41 | Ackis | i hate when i don't shave for a few days and my face becomes itchy |
| 17:12.44 | VonhintenHOME` | I wore contacts |
| 17:12.46 | Ackis | mass effect 2 > sleep/shaving |
| 17:12.59 | VonhintenHOME` | I just passed the itchy beard point |
| 17:12.59 | mikma | ackis: don't shave your balls then, you'll die. |
| 17:13.03 | VonhintenHOME` | lol |
| 17:13.37 | cogwheel | Ackis: that's cause all the hairs are trying to in-grow as they curl around |
| 17:14.02 | cogwheel | just went through this as well, though it's now approaching 3 week |
| 17:14.37 | Ackis | mikma: I wax them |
| 17:14.44 | Ackis | cogwheel: it's annnnnoying |
| 17:14.48 | cogwheel | looks around for brain bleach |
| 17:14.50 | mikma | ackis: neat. is the wax hot? |
| 17:15.08 | Ackis | nah |
| 17:15.13 | Ackis | don't want to damage my boys |
| 17:15.19 | Ackis | they have important work to do |
| 17:15.45 | VonhintenHOME` | much teabagging to be done |
| 17:16.02 | durcyn | no, you're thinking of his mouth. |
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| 17:16.54 | cogwheel | making kids isn't important work imo. |
| 17:16.59 | cogwheel | raising them on the other hand... |
| 17:17.07 | cogwheel | which should have absolutely nothing to do with your balls |
| 17:17.25 | Ackis | damn you cogwheel |
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| 17:17.29 | Ackis | quit being serious |
| 17:17.37 | mikma | cheerious |
| 17:17.38 | Ackis | you turned me waxing my balls into a serious conversation |
| 17:17.42 | Ackis | thanks for ruining it! |
| 17:17.49 | VonhintenHOME` | involving children no less |
| 17:18.05 | cogwheel | y so rsr? |
| 17:18.08 | Lopeppeppy | My, nice that we're having weather today. |
| 17:18.40 | theorbtwo | Yeah, it'd be a bit annoying if the atmosphere suddenly vanished. |
| 17:19.20 | nevcairiel | yeah, i dont think my house is airproof |
| 17:19.40 | mikma | air is houseproof |
| 17:19.46 | cogwheel | they should make injection-molded plastic houses imo |
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| 17:24.03 | Taroven | Dolby: Ping! |
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| 17:52.09 | Ackis | olafski: http://twitter.com/UbiGabe |
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| 17:57.52 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: Has you person been resigned yet to the fact that 1) their student hadn't been through training; 2) was working unsupervised, and 3) they didn't keep backups? |
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| 18:02.12 | Lopeppeppy | Nope, they're still biiiiiiiitching. |
| 18:02.39 | Lopeppeppy | I found a text file where she had thought about the script, and I was able to re-write it based on that. Sheer bloody stupid luck. |
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| 18:04.20 | alestane | I gave my students a writing assignment today...and one of them looks at me and says, "I'm REALLY not any good at writing..." |
| 18:04.40 | alestane | And I was just thinking, "and what am I supposed to do with that information? |
| 18:05.24 | alestane | Along with "...then LEARN." |
| 18:05.47 | Shirik | would hate to get on Lopeppeppy's bad side |
| 18:06.22 | Lopeppeppy | You have to work at what you're not good at, jerkface. Now your paper has to be 10 pages longer. Have a nice day. |
| 18:06.26 | Lopeppeppy | is a crankypants. |
| 18:06.55 | Shirik | o.o; |
| 18:07.03 | Shirik | comforts Lopeppeppy |
| 18:08.26 | Thunder_Child | alestane: you respond with "thats ok, im not really good at reading them, i just RNG a grade" |
| 18:08.39 | Adys | http://www.notfunnycartoons.com/toondb/100128.html |
| 18:09.08 | nevcairiel | Thunder_Child: that might even make him happy |
| 18:10.11 | alestane | We can blame Lopeppeppy for these (or at least the fact that I'm reading them): http://clientsfromhell.tumblr.com/ |
| 18:10.26 | mikma | adys: that is not funny. |
| 18:10.37 | zenzelezz | I linked that last week |
| 18:10.52 | Adys | you didnt |
| 18:10.55 | alestane | nevcairiel: if I generated someone's grade randomly it would be math.random(1,20). |
| 18:11.01 | alestane | Out of a 100 max. |
| 18:11.01 | Adys | you linked that over 10 days ago |
| 18:11.05 | nevcairiel | heh |
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| 18:11.30 | Arrowmaster | some of us are issues with writing papers and cant just 'learn' to be better at it |
| 18:11.35 | Arrowmaster | s/are/have/ |
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| 18:12.16 | Ackis | you need to practice at least so you can fake it in the real world :P |
| 18:12.18 | alestane | "I dont care if it loses 90% of visitors, we cant have a skip on the website intro, we paid a lot of money for that and everybody has to see it." |
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| 18:12.32 | Lopeppeppy | But it's not the comp sci professor's job to teach or assist with that -- there's usually a writing department, or other tutoring. |
| 18:13.02 | alestane | Arrowmaster: If he has an insurmountable difficulty, then that needs to be in his IEP and I need to be advised that he requires special consideration. |
| 18:13.06 | Lopeppeppy | If you're going to write cover letters, job applications... writing skills are gonna be necessary out in The World. |
| 18:13.24 | alestane | And how he proposes to go into game development with no written communication skills, I do not know. |
| 18:13.47 | Arrowmaster | alestane: i nolonger have an IEP now that im in college because of how majorly my highschool fucked everything up |
| 18:14.45 | Arrowmaster | ive told me english teachers but not any other teachers |
| 18:15.27 | Lopeppeppy | Work through your Dean of Students to get documentation again, Arrowmaster, That's part of what they do. |
| 18:16.17 | Arrowmaster | im not even aware that we have a dean of students, and im one class from graduating |
| 18:16.43 | Adys | the thing with clientsfromhell is most of this shit is either exaggerated because the guy got pissed off by his client, or the client was being a smartass/making a joke |
| 18:17.15 | Shirik | ^ |
| 18:17.17 | Lopeppeppy | Some of the situations are scarily similar to what I get every day, Adys, I'm prepared to believe 9/10 of them. |
| 18:17.28 | alestane | I will accept things like "I'm dyslexic" as potential issues with assignments, although accepting in that case means "arranging additional help" most of the time. I will not accept a difficulty presented as "I'm really bad at it," I can't. |
| 18:17.50 | Adys | Lopeppeppy: 9/10 is a stretch imho, 7/10 mebbe |
| 18:18.10 | Adys | "The woman in this photo is perfect, but she needs to be disabled. Can you photoshop her so she only has one arm?" |
| 18:18.17 | Adys | This is a messed up/ridiculous but valid request |
| 18:19.41 | Arrowmaster | alestane: im probably one of the worst, ive got a nice long list of conditions and dyslexic is the least troublesome of them |
| 18:19.53 | Lopeppeppy | I've gotten the one where they want to know if I can darken some of the people so the photo looks more "diverse" |
| 18:20.13 | Adys | its messed up i agree |
| 18:20.24 | Adys | but Im not gonna complain if a client pays me $200 to hit the contrast button |
| 18:20.42 | Lopeppeppy | It's never that easy. *laugh* |
| 18:20.57 | alestane | Client: âI have a great idea, and Iâd like to bring you on board as a partner.â |
| 18:20.57 | alestane | Me: âGo on..â |
| 18:20.57 | alestane | Client: âItâs great. I want to recreate Google, but make it better.â |
| 18:20.58 | alestane | Me: âHow?â |
| 18:20.58 | Adys | why yes it is you take a pen and darken it on your monitor |
| 18:20.58 | alestane | Client: âWell thatâs where your expertise comes in.â |
| 18:21.10 | Adys | i remember microsoft doing this |
| 18:21.27 | Adys | !g microsoft polish ad controversy |
| 18:21.27 | batbot | Adys: Microsoft Photoshops Out Diversity for Polish Ad, Sparking Race ... <http://www.findingdulcinea.com/news/business/2009/aug/Microsoft-Photoshops-Out-Diversity-for-Polish-Ad--Sparking-Race-Controversy.html> |
| 18:22.35 | Adys | Lopeppeppy: theres also the fact Im my own employee, and if a client decides to be an ass Ill gladly be an ass back :P |
| 18:22.55 | Lopeppeppy | One of my favorite blogs, Photoshop Disasters. http://photoshopdisasters.blogspot.com/ |
| 18:23.07 | Adys | oh i remember this |
| 18:23.09 | Adys | ages ago |
| 18:23.09 | zenzelezz | :) |
| 18:24.43 | Adys | hm |
| 18:24.48 | Adys | might have been another site actually |
| 18:25.37 | Adys | http://lh3.ggpht.com/_EHZsoUS6SIA/S0-GH3uIiHI/AAAAAAAAF04/7g0bw87h-es/mbloodyofficer.jpg |
| 18:25.40 | Adys | whatthehwhhthwhrhwhat |
| 18:25.44 | Adys | ugh |
| 18:25.47 | Adys | it hurts looking at it |
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| 18:27.36 | alestane | Wow, anorexics on parade. |
| 18:27.45 | Lopeppeppy | That's why I LOVE that blog. |
| 18:28.05 | alestane | For the anorexics? |
| 18:28.18 | Adys | http://lh4.ggpht.com/_EHZsoUS6SIA/S0Yuo8i-kII/AAAAAAAAFw4/WuJDF0pNwAQ/s512/twirlbloodytwirl.jpg |
| 18:28.19 | Adys | IT HURTS |
| 18:28.29 | Arrowmaster | "Our web application support team doesnât know html or javascript, can you redo the project so you arenât using those?" |
| 18:28.56 | Adys | you could technically |
| 18:29.06 | Shirik | lol Arrowmaster |
| 18:29.17 | alestane | That's extremely purple. Coincidence that there's a finger in the lower left pointing right at her breast? |
| 18:29.20 | Adys | again, if a client pays me, ill gladly give them a templateless website |
| 18:29.37 | Arrowmaster | you are going to do it without html? |
| 18:29.50 | Adys | yep |
| 18:29.52 | Adys | pure txts |
| 18:29.55 | Adys | on a fps |
| 18:29.55 | Arrowmaster | what are you going to do? make it completely in xml and xslt? |
| 18:29.58 | Adys | s/fps/ftp/ |
| 18:30.12 | Adys | no, that would involve work |
| 18:30.21 | Arrowmaster | note the 'web application' part |
| 18:30.31 | Adys | it's an app |
| 18:30.35 | Adys | works with your imagination |
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| 18:30.39 | Adys | like old school board games |
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| 18:30.50 | Adys | you have to copypaste links though, sucks |
| 18:31.23 | Adys | http://lh6.ggpht.com/_EHZsoUS6SIA/Sz0ckDzo4BI/AAAAAAAAFr8/8dhWsi26i5M/stockingbloodygirl.jpg |
| 18:31.23 | Adys | wow |
| 18:31.25 | Adys | wow. |
| 18:33.07 | Ackis | hot |
| 18:33.20 | nicoli_s | id do her, though dont tell my gf |
| 18:34.26 | Shirik | ... |
| 18:34.42 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy, sic him |
| 18:35.56 | batrick | hello shirik |
| 18:35.58 | batrick | we meet again |
| 18:36.05 | Shirik | hello batrick |
| 18:36.18 | olafski | ackis: who is ubi gabe |
| 18:36.47 | olafski | ah some dude working at ubisoft.. how is he relevant to me? :) |
| 18:37.42 | Ackis | olafski: chance to win AC2 DLC |
| 18:38.01 | olafski | ah |
| 18:38.06 | olafski | bleh :P 320 points |
| 18:38.47 | olafski | thanks tho ;) |
| 18:38.54 | olafski | he's giving away one whole dlc >_< |
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| 18:39.10 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+rRf #shiibot] by Shiibot |
| 18:39.10 | Shiibot | Channel locked temporarily. Elapsed time: 198 minutes |
| 18:39.39 | nevcairiel | Shirik: you know, you should just make it +R on those ctcp spams |
| 18:39.53 | Shirik | It doesn't know what a CTCP is |
| 18:40.08 | cogwheel | I don't know what a CTCP is |
| 18:40.43 | Shirik | I mean +R would just confuse people anyway. At least with +rf you get kicked to a channel that tells you what to do |
| 18:41.19 | nevcairiel | when you try to write while in a +R channel it says you too |
| 18:41.36 | Arrowmaster | unless youve got a really horrible client |
| 18:41.53 | Shirik | well it just says "Unable to send to channel" |
| 18:42.02 | Shirik | in the spirit of "don't bite the newcomers" that doesn't really tell you much |
| 18:42.37 | ZorbaTHut | does anyone know if WoW has a constant internal tick rate or not? |
| 18:42.37 | Shirik | ZorbaTHut: I have long since believed that it does, but have no real proof of that |
| 18:42.51 | Shirik | it's the only thing that makes sense to me to be able to cause things like double-polymorphs |
| 18:43.13 | ZorbaTHut | it'd be a pretty standard internal design also |
| 18:43.19 | Shirik | yeah |
| 18:43.40 | alestane | http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20090313 priceless |
| 18:43.48 | ZorbaTHut | I assume combat log timestamps are clientside, not serverside? |
| 18:44.12 | nevcairiel | they are |
| 18:44.39 | ZorbaTHut | makes it trickier, that does |
| 18:45.35 | ZorbaTHut | hmm, wonder how it'd be possible to untangle the internal clock rate. |
| 18:46.15 | zenzelezz | for sheer curiosity, or for some other purpose? |
| 18:46.17 | ZorbaTHut | hee hee, I just had the most ridiculous idea |
| 18:46.23 | ZorbaTHut | get a few dozen mages in the gurubashi arena, have them all polymorph each other simultaneously |
| 18:46.33 | ZorbaTHut | presumably there will be some relation with how many polymorphs work vs. the internal clock rate |
| 18:46.56 | ZorbaTHut | zenz, it occurs to me that it might be causing some curious bias with DPS spreadsheets. Also, just curiosity. |
| 18:52.08 | batrick | #shiibot should maybe have a topic shirik? |
| 18:54.27 | mikma | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:57.29 | Adys | ZorbaTHut: end_cast is fired after successful_cast |
| 18:57.56 | Adys | which allows a spell to complete even though the caster cannot complete it |
| 18:58.15 | Adys | this is when you get for example your spell school cs-locked but your fireball still completes |
| 19:00.17 | Shirik | happy batrick? :P |
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| 19:00.46 | Kraps | is this a sekrit channel now? |
| 19:00.51 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 19:00.59 | Shirik | no Kraps |
| 19:01.10 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 19:01.44 | Kraps | window 7 beyotch |
| 19:03.02 | Duman | hmm |
| 19:03.28 | cogwheel | hmm? |
| 19:03.34 | Duman | HMM! |
| 19:04.15 | Adys | mmmmmmmmmmhhh... Shirik! |
| 19:04.16 | Kraps | this is sick |
| 19:04.30 | Shirik | ok ba |
| 19:04.32 | Shirik | bai |
| 19:04.48 | Adys | why am i reading CAD |
| 19:05.45 | Kraps | this is sick |
| 19:07.44 | Lunessa | cogwheel: "It's almost like he stole christmas." |
| 19:08.30 | Adys | http://lh3.ggpht.com/_EHZsoUS6SIA/Syf5bu_ds2I/AAAAAAAAFkI/VuiwWG436xk/takkobloodyfashion.jpg |
| 19:09.25 | Kandoko | Can font strings be vertical text? or is always limited to horizontal text only? |
| 19:09.47 | Adys | in wow i dont believe there is a way to make them properly vertical |
| 19:10.13 | Adys | http://photoshopdisasters.blogspot.com/search/label/i%20hate%20drawing%20hands |
| 19:10.15 | Adys | just |
| 19:10.15 | Adys | wow |
| 19:10.42 | Kandoko | Shadow |
| 19:11.04 | Kandoko | Same light source as her leg/body |
| 19:12.13 | Lopeppeppy | Love that blog, just love it. |
| 19:12.23 | haste | still some airbrushing done on the other part of the hand Kandoko |
| 19:12.33 | haste | which isn't done on the shadow part |
| 19:12.57 | Adys | man |
| 19:13.01 | Adys | some of these hands |
| 19:13.02 | Adys | wow |
| 19:13.08 | zenzelezz | I still like this one: http://photoshopdisasters.blogspot.com/search?q=batman |
| 19:13.15 | Adys | that baby |
| 19:13.18 | Adys | with 7 fingers |
| 19:13.19 | Adys | or is it 8? |
| 19:13.20 | Kandoko | I was thinking am layer adjustment type filter was appled but the mask cut off to soon :P |
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| 19:15.03 | Adys | how many times does playboy come up in that blog |
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| 19:16.59 | zenzelezz | people like scrutinising Playboy's pictures |
| 19:19.25 | Adys | http://photoshopdisasters.blogspot.com/2009/11/vizio-your-experience-may-vary.html |
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| 19:21.28 | theorbtwo | zenzelezz: I certianly can't *imagine* why... |
| 19:22.10 | zenzelezz | theorbtwo: the rest of us guys tend to like looking at naked ladies |
| 19:22.29 | Adys | We hear the words "insane art direction" far too often these days, so it's nice to have an image that properly captures the sentiment. |
| 19:22.30 | Adys | hahah |
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| 19:23.16 | Adys | I'm sorry, but I can't see the images in two-thirds of the posts here, quite possibly because I'm using AdBlock with Firefox. |
| 19:23.16 | Adys | Would it be possible to post direct URLs to the original images as well? |
| 19:23.20 | Adys | Douchebagsfromhell |
| 19:23.26 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 19:32.00 | Adys | gnite |
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| 19:40.50 | Cairenn | I can haz snowstorm! |
| 19:41.09 | alestane | I haz flurries so far, no storm. |
| 19:41.18 | zenzelezz | pity, then we'll just have to stay in and snuggle |
| 19:41.25 | Lopeppeppy | I has many flurries, all day. |
| 19:41.32 | Lopeppeppy | I'd rather have the damn ice cream, kthx. |
| 19:41.44 | Cairenn | it went from clear skies, to light fluffies, to omfg I can't see across the street, thank god I only had to drive 1km home |
| 19:42.29 | Cairenn | visibility went to shit in no time flat |
| 19:42.34 | cogwheel | and here i am excited to hear 3 thunderclaps the other day... |
| 19:42.37 | cogwheel | CA weather is so boring |
| 19:43.57 | Cairenn | so yeah, Lopeppeppy, alestane, keep an eye on it out there |
| 19:44.10 | Lunessa | cogwheel: Texas weather more so. HOT, HOT HOT - Rain/Thunderstorm - that's it. |
| 19:44.29 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, I've decided I'm too cranky to do dinner tonight anyway. |
| 19:44.49 | Cairenn | :( |
| 19:44.51 | cogwheel | Lunessa: you guys have tornados and hurricanes too |
| 19:45.09 | Lopeppeppy | Cranky bitch is cranky and should stay home and do no murder. |
| 19:45.28 | Lunessa | cogwheel: I'd trade you, but at least here the state isn't issuing IOUs to employees. :) |
| 19:45.35 | cogwheel | ;) |
| 19:45.41 | Cairenn | huggles Lopeppeppy and gives her a foot rub |
| 19:45.57 | Cairenn | and a scotch |
| 19:46.09 | Lunessa | ... I can has a scotch too? |
| 19:46.22 | Cairenn | or a Scot - whichever is your pleasure, Lopeppeppy ;) |
| 19:46.24 | Fisker | hey Cairenn |
| 19:46.35 | Cairenn | Lunessa: you can has scotch too |
| 19:46.35 | Ackis | Fisker: I http://cuteoverload.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/swan-heart-560.jpg?w=560&h=364 u! |
| 19:46.39 | Cairenn | hi Fisker |
| 19:47.04 | Lopeppeppy | Rum and coke, absolutely no boys allowed today. |
| 19:47.17 | Lunessa | Nice. Scotch + Vicodin = no pain and and I don't give a shit. My day just got WAY better. |
| 19:47.24 | Cairenn | heh |
| 19:47.38 | Cairenn | didn't realize you were still on the Vicodin |
| 19:47.47 | Cairenn | takes away Lunessa's scotch, sorry luv |
| 19:47.59 | Lunessa | drinked it already |
| 19:48.04 | Cairenn | heh |
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| 19:48.36 | Ackis | http://cuteoverload.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/kitties-n-blueberries-059.jpg?w=560&h=420 |
| 19:48.50 | Cairenn | hell, even I wouldn't drink while on Vicodin |
| 19:48.51 | DWSR | Ackis: This isn't the sekrit kitteh channel. |
| 19:49.11 | DWSR | Unless, Ackis' kitteh is on the computerz! |
| 19:49.18 | DWSR | Hai Ackis' kitteh! |
| 19:49.43 | Lunessa | Cairenn: (me either, but I'm imagining the combination) |
| 19:49.50 | Lopeppeppy | I have no pain meds, thats half the cranky! |
| 19:49.56 | Ackis | meow! |
| 19:49.59 | Cairenn | while on T1s, meh, no big deal |
| 19:50.02 | alestane | Having mail order issues? |
| 19:50.12 | DWSR | Cairenn: T1s are so weaksauce though. =\ |
| 19:50.26 | DWSR | Not even painkillers, imo. |
| 19:50.29 | Cairenn | DWSR: especially when you are required to take as many as I am |
| 19:50.41 | DWSR | Cairenn: lulz, you know that they make T4s, right? |
| 19:50.48 | Torhal | Damn redheads with their high pain threshhold. |
| 19:51.00 | alestane | Lunessa: http://w00t.chaobell.net/20040630.html |
| 19:51.03 | durcyn | what the hell is a T1 in the medical sense, i'm sitting here wondering what a megabit leased line has to do with painkillers |
| 19:51.18 | Cairenn | Tylenol 1 |
| 19:51.24 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 19:51.28 | Lunessa | alestane: pretty accurate. |
| 19:51.29 | Cairenn | Tylenol + codine |
| 19:51.34 | Dagmar | Yeah, pill-popper jargon is a little weird |
| 19:51.36 | DWSR | T# = Tylenol # |
| 19:51.51 | Cairenn | and the # == how much codine is in it |
| 19:51.52 | nevcairiel | I guess its good to now know it |
| 19:51.58 | nevcairiel | s/now/not/ |
| 19:52.03 | Lopeppeppy | Wish the doctors believed in that pain tolerance difference... drives me insane. I can't take ibuprofen, stop telling me to take it! |
| 19:52.11 | Lunessa | Cairenn: You can get those OTC in Canada, no? |
| 19:52.17 | Cairenn | Lunessa: yup |
| 19:52.20 | DWSR | Yes. |
| 19:52.21 | Cairenn | thank god |
| 19:52.23 | DWSR | mhm |
| 19:52.25 | cogwheel | nevcairiel: at least if you're not in the medical profession ;) |
| 19:52.31 | Lunessa | Not here. Codeine is Schedule C |
| 19:52.38 | Cairenn | I know |
| 19:52.39 | nevcairiel | cogwheel: indeed |
| 19:52.49 | Dagmar | The doctors I've dealt with haven't had an issue with relative pain tolerances |
| 19:52.52 | Dagmar | Then again, mine's high |
| 19:53.16 | Lunessa | When my dentist looked at me and said "We're going to give you narcotics for the pain," I almost wept. |
| 19:53.18 | Cairenn | I regularly bring extra bottles of T1s down with me whenever I'm coming down to the US, hand a bottle out to each of my friends |
| 19:53.22 | Dagmar | ...although I suspect they should just be honest with people and say "On a scale of 1 to 10 where one is a paper cut and 10 is bone surgery..." |
| 19:53.36 | DWSR | Cairenn: T1s have codeine? Thought only 2+? |
| 19:53.37 | nevcairiel | only hurting teeth drive me insane, anything else i can tolerate more |
| 19:53.41 | cogwheel | Cairenn: hope customs isn't reading ;) |
| 19:53.43 | Dagmar | I've had my knee drilled into twice. It's crazy how much that hurts |
| 19:53.56 | Cairenn | DWSR: T1s do too |
| 19:54.04 | DWSR | heh. |
| 19:54.04 | mikma | http://matin.maapallo.org/site.pl/selain/?c=kamut&i=3679 |
| 19:54.08 | Cairenn | cogwheel: not worried |
| 19:54.10 | Lopeppeppy | I've had 10 pain and passed out, I've had steady days of 8-9... no one should have to live like that. |
| 19:54.15 | DWSR | All I know is I got T3s when I got my wisdom teeth removed. Weeee |
| 19:54.20 | Dagmar | nevcariel: Peeels. One Tylenol, one ibuprophen, one aspirin. If that doesn't dampen it down, take em again (half of the normal dose of each) |
| 19:54.35 | Dagmar | nevcariel: I've broken wisdom teeth. That sorted it |
| 19:54.59 | cogwheel | US drug laws need to die a horrible painful death |
| 19:55.16 | DWSR | US drug laws are meant to keep the pharma companies in the US. |
| 19:55.17 | cogwheel | and the backers charged with war crimes |
| 19:55.28 | alestane | Or at least have their priorities seriously reevaluated. |
| 19:55.38 | DWSR | alestane: Dragged out back and shot, is more like that. |
| 19:55.47 | Cairenn | I wish more doctors would not only understand pain tolerance levels, but pain killer tolerance levels :p |
| 19:56.00 | cogwheel | the only good that has come of the drug war is that we know drug wars are a FUCKING STUPID IDEA |
| 19:56.02 | DWSR | Cairenn: You're in Canada right? |
| 19:56.06 | Cairenn | yes |
| 19:56.19 | DWSR | Cairenn: Yell. A lot. |
| 19:56.30 | Cairenn | oh, my doctor does |
| 19:56.33 | Cairenn | I'm lucky |
| 19:56.38 | Lopeppeppy | is moving in with Cairenn! |
| 19:56.43 | cogwheel | (one might have been fooled into thinking we learned that lesson with prohibition) |
| 19:56.50 | Cairenn | but so many don't |
| 19:57.00 | DWSR | cogwheel: lulz. Dry counties so lulz. |
| 19:57.01 | Dagmar | I dont' know about you but what I know is that apparently hillbillies will make meth out of just about anything |
| 19:57.25 | DWSR | Dagmar: That's all hillbillies are good for, I thought. |
| 19:57.40 | nevcairiel | moonshine and meth, eh? |
| 19:57.46 | Lopeppeppy | My hand doctor doesn't get it, Cairenn. He's chopping my hand open, and tells me to stock up on ibuprofen, disregarding that I can't take it. This will be un-fun. |
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| 19:57.53 | DWSR | Cairenn: My mother was getting an MRI and had a reaction with the radioactive isotope that they use. |
| 19:57.56 | Lunessa | I happen to have several friends who are doctors. Many of them have explained to me how to be sure to convey my level of pain to my treating doctor. My dentist? He didn't fuck around. He said he didn't know how I was able to function at all with the level of pain my problem should be causing. |
| 19:58.09 | Dagmar | Well, I just know it means a lot of paperwork before I can get something that actually _works_ on sinusitis |
| 19:58.12 | DWSR | Cairenn: Apparently she yelled for about 15 mintues before they just gave her some Vallium. |
| 19:58.20 | Cairenn | DWSR: ugh |
| 19:58.33 | Lunessa | He went straight to vicodin. No fucking around. |
| 19:58.36 | DWSR | Cairenn: And she's claustrophobic. |
| 19:58.38 | Dagmar | wow |
| 19:58.46 | kd3 | gah |
| 19:58.50 | DWSR | Lunessa: Wow. |
| 19:59.12 | Lopeppeppy | Dentists tend to be a bit more liberal, because they see you once, give you 5 days worth, off you go. Doctors you see more often get all OMG! about it. |
| 19:59.18 | DWSR | Cairenn: When she came home from the hospital that day, though.... :D |
| 19:59.22 | Cairenn | lol |
| 19:59.41 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: Dentists, oral surgeons, and orthodontists. |
| 19:59.52 | DWSR | At least in canada, their salary cap's much higher. |
| 20:00.07 | Lunessa | Also: http://www.pvponline.com/ |
| 20:01.00 | DWSR | lulz Lunessa |
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| 20:04.52 | Lopeppeppy | Meanwhile, I can't even get my doctor to renew my prescription that has to go to mail-in, it's like killing someone or something here. |
| 20:05.06 | Lopeppeppy | I dunno, medical profession = EPIC FAIL ZONE or something. |
| 20:05.24 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: where are you again? |
| 20:05.36 | Lopeppeppy | In the wilds of Northern New York. |
| 20:05.53 | DWSR | Yeah, the US has medical fail.. |
| 20:05.59 | Dagmar | Oh, tha's a population-control measure there. |
| 20:06.01 | DWSR | That's why Obama's the fucking man. |
| 20:06.04 | Dagmar | There's too many people in New York already. |
| 20:06.20 | Dagmar | If the weak ones die off, more food and space for everyone else. |
| 20:06.36 | Dagmar | DWSR: Well, at least he's willing to admit it's entirely fucked up |
| 20:07.05 | Lopeppeppy | Darlin', I live in upstate new york, we have plenty of space up here. Knock the city into the ocean, send in Godzilla or whatever that cloverfield thing was, it's all good. |
| 20:07.07 | Dagmar | I don't see anyone getting anything useful done about it while the Republicans are in "spoiled brat" mode, but it's good someone's at least willing to admit it |
| 20:07.18 | DWSR | Dagmar: He's the first politician who doesn't immediately come off as a lying scumbag. Not to say that he isn't/won't become a lying scumbag. |
| 20:07.34 | Dagmar | DWSR: I'll give you that, too |
| 20:08.08 | Lopeppeppy | Everyone thought Tiger Woods was cool too. |
| 20:08.10 | Dagmar | Even amongst all the chaos he's still coming out looking like the most reasonable guy around |
| 20:08.15 | Dagmar | Tiger Woods IS cool |
| 20:08.18 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: He still is cool. Seen the cover of Vanity Fair? |
| 20:08.30 | Dagmar | Anyone who can manage to play golf that well AND fuck that many women, my hero |
| 20:08.43 | Dagmar | I could care less about the golf tho. Let's be honest. |
| 20:08.45 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 20:08.49 | DWSR | agreed Dagmar |
| 20:08.50 | durcyn | he's truly a modern day wilt chamberlain |
| 20:08.56 | Dagmar | rofl |
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| 20:10.30 | DWSR | 2 party governments are fucking stupid, btw. |
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| 20:11.03 | Dagmar | duopolies |
| 20:11.10 | Dagmar | ...on idiocy mainly |
| 20:11.11 | DWSR | mhm |
| 20:11.15 | Cairenn | 1 party governments are worse |
| 20:11.25 | DWSR | Cairenn: Canada wouldn't know anything about that.. |
| 20:11.51 | Dagmar | Well, at least they have a "relatively disinterested monarchy" |
| 20:12.11 | Kraps | interesting, when you set the resolution to 1680x1050 and make text size medium, windows looks exactly like 1449x900 |
| 20:12.45 | Dagmar | Kraps: A font's actual size in real-world units isn't supposed to change based on your resolution |
| 20:13.24 | nevcairiel | thats why we have a DPI setting |
| 20:13.49 | Lunessa | http://roflrazzi.com/upcoming/?pid=619 |
| 20:14.14 | Arrowmaster | except you cant change the dpi in windows or half the programs will stop displaying correctly |
| 20:14.23 | Dagmar | Windows should have just "figgered it out" based on some EDID data, but not all monitor manufacturers can be bothered to make a new firmware for just every model display they put out |
| 20:14.35 | Dagmar | Dell has a bad rep for having like, an entire line of monitors all claiming to be 15" |
| 20:15.20 | DWSR | lol |
| 20:15.45 | Kraps | Dagmar: i dont think the actual text size i.e. web pages or the text in chatzilla changed, just the text and button size of ui stuff |
| 20:16.05 | Dagmar | It should pretty much never change |
| 20:16.13 | Arrowmaster | like i said, half the programs wont display correctly |
| 20:16.17 | Dagmar | Windows UI elements on the other hand, seem to take a "compromise" approach to it |
| 20:16.20 | nevcairiel | 90% of web designers fail and use px instead of relative sizes like em |
| 20:16.25 | Dagmar | So they'll just eff up everywhere no matter what |
| 20:16.39 | Dagmar | ~nevcairiel++ |
| 20:16.47 | nevcairiel | so the fonts don't scale properly to any font changes |
| 20:18.08 | haste | nevcairiel { font-size: 8px; } |
| 20:18.34 | nevcairiel | see, thats fail! |
| 20:18.46 | Lopeppeppy | Sweet, severe weather advisory! |
| 20:18.58 | Cairenn | Lopeppeppy: heh |
| 20:18.59 | Lopeppeppy | Cairenn, you're totally sending me your weather. |
| 20:19.04 | nevcairiel | assuming a 12px default size for comparison, that could as well be 0.75em |
| 20:19.15 | nevcairiel | oh wait, 0.66em :P |
| 20:19.44 | Arrowmaster | 12 point font is fucking huge |
| 20:20.10 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 20:20.18 | DWSR | Lunessa: I hate you |
| 20:20.21 | DWSR | can't stop reading that site. |
| 20:20.37 | Lunessa | You're welcome. |
| 20:20.39 | Kraps | the topic title on the forums are bigger. but when i click in its native res |
| 20:20.39 | nevcairiel | default is probably 11 rathern then 12 |
| 20:21.04 | Dagmar | 10 and 12 have been print standards for ages, because of pico an elite |
| 20:21.30 | Dagmar | I used to remember which was which. :/ |
| 20:21.31 | nevcairiel | print also uses serif, can't really compare that much |
| 20:21.31 | DWSR | http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/celebrity-pictures-liberace-bling-wayne.jpg |
| 20:22.38 | Lopeppeppy | Added to my feed, Lunesa, you evil monkey |
| 20:22.44 | nevcairiel | but anyway, 1em seems to be 11px in my browser :P |
| 20:23.24 | Dagmar | 1em should be 16p |
| 20:23.30 | Dagmar | er 16pt |
| 20:23.43 | Arrowmaster | my default system font size is 9 |
| 20:23.50 | nevcairiel | 16pt is fucking huge |
| 20:24.06 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 20:24.10 | DWSR | My system deafult's 10. |
| 20:24.16 | DWSR | default* |
| 20:24.31 | Dagmar | wait--need more caffiene |
| 20:24.38 | Dagmar | I only typed about half that sentence |
| 20:24.54 | Dagmar | The example WP uses is 16pt font |
| 20:24.59 | Dagmar | *guzzles* |
| 20:25.20 | DWSR | Dagmar: That's because WP is built by idiots. |
| 20:25.25 | Dagmar | an em is the percentage of the point size of the font |
| 20:25.39 | Dagmar | DWSR: Well, WP is where I went the last time I double checked some X stuff |
| 20:25.50 | Dagmar | I was trying to quote form there but left out about half the sentence |
| 20:26.00 | nevcairiel | I never really had to mess with my font settings on windows much, it somehow just works, on linux i always have to tweak the size to fit |
| 20:26.00 | DWSR | http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/celebrity-pictures-sesame-street-oscar-weed.jpg |
| 20:26.04 | Dagmar | Bugger let me just go to wp |
| 20:26.26 | Dagmar | Yeah they were saying 1em in a 16pt typeface is 16 points |
| 20:26.48 | DWSR | Of course it is. |
| 20:26.52 | DWSR | In a 16pt typeface. |
| 20:26.56 | DWSR | 16pt is fucking huge. |
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| 20:27.05 | Dagmar | People should be using em to scale fonts in CSS instead of even specifying point sizes because that way it will *scale* with them changing their default font size |
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| 20:27.21 | Dagmar | ...so you don't piss off hte old people who keep their browser set so that all the fonts are the size of yer thumb |
| 20:27.58 | nevcairiel | 1em is just always the default font size, and any changes from that scale accordingly |
| 20:28.16 | nevcairiel | so for me thats the same as 11px |
| 20:28.16 | Dagmar | Unless, of course, you're doing a page you'd rather your parents not read--then you just slap down "8pt" and call it a day |
| 20:28.52 | nevcairiel | or you use sizes like -1 .. 0 .. +1 |
| 20:28.54 | nevcairiel | those scale, too |
| 20:29.03 | Dagmar | Soo... facebook updates--8pt. Everything else, .9em. ;) |
| 20:29.14 | DWSR | Dagmar: pft. |
| 20:29.20 | DWSR | facebook updates color:white; |
| 20:29.24 | Dagmar | nevcariel: With the added bonus that Microsoft has permanently f**ked up the meaning of +1/-1 |
| 20:29.38 | nevcairiel | who cares how IE renders stuff |
| 20:29.45 | Dagmar | Chickenshit web devs |
| 20:29.57 | Dagmar | "onoes we can't do that because Ie6 won't render it properly" |
| 20:29.58 | batrick | Shirik: sure am! |
| 20:30.20 | nevcairiel | Anyone that still works against IE6 on a new project in 2010 is doing it wrong |
| 20:30.26 | Dagmar | Everyone else is too busy making useful and functional web documents |
| 20:30.46 | Dagmar | nevcairiel: You'll find people even in here that won't do something on a page if IE can't render it properly |
| 20:30.56 | Dagmar | I've given up waiting on Microsoft to play nice with the rest of the world. |
| 20:31.00 | DWSR | Dagmar: What version of IE? |
| 20:31.09 | Dagmar | Ten years is long enough to wait for PNG support that doesn't suck a donkey's ahem |
| 20:31.11 | DWSR | Because I agree wholeheartedly with nevaciriel. |
| 20:31.23 | Dagmar | 12-year old kids are writing better PNG handlers |
| 20:32.11 | Dagmar | dwsr: I would personally not be all that upset if some virus started targeting IE6 |
| 20:32.18 | nevcairiel | luckily MS is pushing 7 as the new corporate OS |
| 20:32.19 | Dagmar | ...and just nuked the machines it infected. |
| 20:32.25 | nevcairiel | so IE6 might vanish from that sector, too |
| 20:32.33 | Dagmar | We've got VIsta and 7 here now. |
| 20:32.45 | Dagmar | It's the Vista machines that are still in danger of being smashed to bits |
| 20:32.46 | nevcairiel | companys were rather reluctant to get vista |
| 20:32.59 | Dagmar | With good reason |
| 20:33.05 | Lopeppeppy | Our new academic building has a student kitchen in it. I... boggle... |
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| 20:33.25 | Dagmar | Lopeppeppy: Just make sure hte fire extinguisher is always fully charged |
| 20:33.38 | nevcairiel | once the majority of companies has finally lost their IE6 default installs, people might finally stop caring about it for good |
| 20:33.47 | Dagmar | Salmonella generally lets people get home before they start spewing |
| 20:33.51 | nevcairiel | its not like people write stuff against mozilla 1.x engines anymore |
| 20:34.03 | Lopeppeppy | X million dollars for a new building, a student burns it down with a metal bowl in the microwave. I can see this happening. |
| 20:34.06 | Dagmar | nevcairiel: I think the problem is the webmetrics people actually |
| 20:34.22 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: Won't even be that good. |
| 20:34.24 | Dagmar | They've got these statistics showing that a large group of people are still "using" IE6 |
| 20:34.33 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: It'll be some fuckhead leaving something in the oven too long. |
| 20:34.39 | nevcairiel | sadly thats not entirely wrong |
| 20:34.46 | Dagmar | I suspect they're just counting the people too dim to have ever changed the default web browser |
| 20:34.51 | nevcairiel | since companies that are sticking to Win XP for now usually never upgraded to IE7 |
| 20:35.13 | Lopeppeppy | The science building had an actual fire alarm last week, but it was just someone yanking a box for fun. Fire safety on this campus sucks it. |
| 20:35.29 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: lol |
| 20:35.44 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: I live in a student apartment building. 4 false alarms last semester. |
| 20:35.47 | nevcairiel | did they catch the guy that pulled the alarm? |
| 20:35.51 | DWSR | I just about shot the people responsible for the last 2. |
| 20:36.04 | Dagmar | Much like all those people who really go to MSN... I suspect a huge part of that is that they're too lazy to change the default browser start page |
| 20:36.05 | Lopeppeppy | No, this building doesn't get many pulls, nevcairiel, so we don't have cameras or ink like the dorms do. |
| 20:37.23 | Dagmar | dwsr: You realize of course that now that you've said something, if anything happens to someone who pulled a false alarm, the police will be questioning you about it |
| 20:37.41 | DWSR | Dagmar: Because, of course, I live even in the remote vicinity of Lopeppeppy. |
| 20:38.24 | Dagmar | I'm talking about hte people pulling false alarms at your building |
| 20:38.58 | DWSR | oh *shrug* |
| 20:39.07 | Dagmar | Should they, you know, have an "accident" while fleeing hte scene of their minor crime |
| 20:39.08 | DWSR | University security is fail. |
| 20:39.25 | DWSR | I'm double tunneled for this IRC connection anyway. |
| 20:39.28 | Dagmar | People are careless and you should never run in a stairwell. |
| 20:39.46 | Dagmar | RUnning you could tumble down 3-4 whole floors before you stop if you trip |
| 20:40.25 | Dagmar | s/you/they/; |
| 20:40.53 | DWSR | http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/celebrity-pictures-john-cleese-silly-mordor.jpg |
| 20:42.56 | DWSR | god damnit lunessa. |
| 20:44.13 | Lunessa | You're welcome. |
| 20:47.06 | alestane | "A SENIOR MOMENT: Carefully picking out your jewelry, but forgetting to put on your dress." |
| 20:47.22 | DWSR | lol |
| 20:47.29 | DWSR | yeah, saw that one. |
| 20:47.33 | DWSR | And about 200 others.... >.< |
| 20:47.37 | DWSR | And totally ignored my prof. OH WELL. |
| 20:48.02 | DWSR | bbiab. |
| 20:48.06 | Kraps | why do i have to do the CoS crates all by myself /grumblegrumble |
| 20:48.59 | Dagmar | 'cuz you're the bright wonder who talked to Chromie |
| 20:49.28 | Kraps | but WHY???? |
| 20:49.59 | Dagmar | Because everyone else is planning on getting up to the gates and complaining at how long it takes Arthas to show up |
| 20:50.00 | Cide | hey |
| 20:50.07 | alestane | http://roflrazzi.com/2010/01/20/celebrity-pictures-christina-hendricks-boobs/ mostly SFW |
| 20:50.19 | nevcairiel | mostly? :P |
| 20:50.21 | Cide | at least you don't have to be the CoS bitch every raid anyomre |
| 20:50.31 | Seerah | you have to do the crates every time? |
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| 20:50.51 | Kraps | Seerah: i havent heard otherwise |
| 20:51.02 | Seerah | see? that's probably why no one else does it. It's first given to you as a quest. then there's no quest. |
| 20:51.08 | Aelobin | anyone know a decent way of getting into a heroic with someone frmo another realm? |
| 20:51.12 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 20:51.16 | Fisker | suck on my chocolate salty balls |
| 20:51.25 | Shirik | hey chef |
| 20:51.40 | nevcairiel | Aelobin: someone specific? cant really be done |
| 20:51.58 | Thunder_Child | "Usability is not an afterthought. If the user can't figure it out, it is a bug." >.< |
| 20:52.05 | Aelobin | im thinking queue random until you find someone frmo the same realm as them, then get them to inv after the instance is done |
| 20:52.26 | Aelobin | that might take a while though :S |
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| 20:52.50 | DWSR | and back |
| 20:53.15 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: Principle of least surprise |
| 20:53.33 | nevcairiel | Aelobin: and then what? you sit with them in an empty instance? =P |
| 20:53.53 | Aelobin | requeue |
| 20:53.55 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: it's one of the principles of a company i am looking at |
| 20:54.08 | Shirik | I don't disagree with it |
| 20:54.12 | Shirik | it's a good policy to have |
| 20:54.35 | Thunder_Child | nooo...if the user cant figure it out, it might also be because they are stupid |
| 20:54.55 | Thunder_Child | in which casae it may need to be changed, but i dont think i would call it a bug |
| 20:54.59 | alestane | That's why you do usability stuides. |
| 20:55.01 | Thunder_Child | case* |
| 20:55.22 | Shirik | google has taken hold of the concept of simplicity and run miles with it |
| 20:55.29 | Shirik | and then they released wave and people were like "wtf?" but ignore that |
| 20:55.34 | Thunder_Child | depends who your target is i suppose |
| 20:55.36 | Shirik | apple, too |
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| 20:56.21 | alestane | It should be obvious how to do the things you most often want to do. It should be possible to do the things you only occasionally want to do, but may be less obvious. |
| 20:57.15 | Dagmar | I suspect it's a matter of most people got used to *not* having any sort of multiuser notepad with graphics in it |
| 20:57.31 | Dagmar | 'cuz you know, normally, that would be "IRC + goatse, 24/7" |
| 20:57.49 | Dagmar | I can think of a few things wave is useful for |
| 20:58.28 | alestane | Wave is a solution in search of a problem. |
| 20:58.29 | Thunder_Child | 4chan is bad enough as it is...live it would be...well, amazing actually |
| 20:59.19 | alestane | They cooked up this cool, unearthly "email-chat-forum" hybrid, but without anyone using it, it's a form in search of a message. |
| 21:00.07 | Lopeppeppy | I'm hungry. This is a good thing! |
| 21:00.08 | DWSR | alestane: That's what she said. |
| 21:00.25 | nevcairiel | I can see companys using it once they can host their own version of it |
| 21:00.36 | alestane | DWSR: Which comment were you responding to? |
| 21:00.48 | DWSR | alestane: Pick one. [/derail] |
| 21:01.12 | DWSR | anyone here know of a way to sync Google Docs with a directory on your computer? |
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| 21:02.46 | alestane | cheers for Lopeppeppy's appetite! |
| 21:02.54 | Thunder_Child | i am amused http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/4/2010/01/500x_lonelysandwichdisplay.jpg |
| 21:03.07 | Shirik | why is hungry Lopeppeppy a good thing? :( |
| 21:03.28 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, my insides have been in rebellion for almost a week, I like wanting to eat versus "must eat zombie mode" |
| 21:03.49 | Shirik | :/ |
| 21:04.10 | Thunder_Child | this is going to be an interesting motherboard "two LGA1366 processor sockets, 12 DDR3 DIMM slots and a questionably sane seven expansion card slots." |
| 21:04.59 | Shirik | is it a server board? |
| 21:05.05 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 21:05.10 | Thunder_Child | it's even meant of OC'ing |
| 21:05.13 | Shirik | then may I ask "why"? |
| 21:05.16 | Thunder_Child | s/of/for/ |
| 21:05.24 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: why not? |
| 21:05.27 | Shirik | -_- |
| 21:05.43 | Shirik | When developing high-quality systems, the correct answer is rarely "why not" |
| 21:06.08 | Thunder_Child | yet when pushing the envelope, 'why not' is perfectly valid |
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| 21:06.50 | alestane | The difference between leading-edge and bleeding-edge. |
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| 21:09.31 | tem | I am an asshole |
| 21:09.37 | tem | 1) group does less damage than me on aoe pulls |
| 21:09.47 | tem | 2) post recount of them getting beaten in damage by a goddamn warrior tank |
| 21:09.54 | tem | 3) post level 80 achievement dated 3 days ago |
| 21:09.56 | tem | 4) leave group |
| 21:10.02 | Adys | lol |
| 21:10.07 | zenzelezz | in this case you sound justified |
| 21:10.23 | Lopeppeppy | "You suck!" shouts tem as he leaves the nooblets behind in a cloud of dust! |
| 21:11.29 | tem | I don't know how some people have so much patience for people playing the game poorly |
| 21:11.33 | tem | because I have very, very little |
| 21:11.44 | Fisker | this sucks |
| 21:11.49 | Fisker | Tiny abom in a jar drops |
| 21:11.52 | Fisker | Best in Slot for paladins |
| 21:11.58 | Fisker | i roll and the other paladin don't |
| 21:12.10 | Fisker | Then they start discussing it and i say it's best in slot for palas |
| 21:12.16 | Fisker | The other paladin rolls |
| 21:12.20 | Fisker | and wins of course |
| 21:13.32 | Lopeppeppy | of course. /comfort |
| 21:13.56 | Lopeppeppy | Never say "best in slot" to the uninformed. Just "I've had that on my gear wishlist for a while" |
| 21:14.13 | tem | Fisker, hey does that jar turn you into an abom at any point? |
| 21:14.20 | tem | one dropped for us last night as well |
| 21:14.25 | tem | I think our enh shaman got it |
| 21:14.38 | cogwheel | tem: as one of those goddamn warrior tanks who has out-dpsd people in heroics, i have absolutely nothing negative to say about your reaction |
| 21:14.49 | tem | oh cogwheel |
| 21:14.56 | tem | there's a DK on garona named cogwheel |
| 21:15.00 | tem | that's not you, right? |
| 21:15.01 | cogwheel | yeah i saw that... |
| 21:15.02 | cogwheel | nope |
| 21:15.55 | cogwheel | ("nope" as in "not me" not "nope" as in "not right") |
| 21:16.00 | Lunessa | He's a lll Kirin Tor and shit. |
| 21:16.15 | tem | yeah I thought you had moved to Kirin Tor |
| 21:16.28 | tem | I still have 10 level 1s on KT reserving names |
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| 21:17.25 | Lopeppeppy | :) |
| 21:17.29 | Thunder_Child | i have to admit, this is a very good article http://gizmodo.com/5458531/the-ipad-is-the-gadget-we-never-knew-we-needed |
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| 21:18.07 | cogwheel | we're in the same battlegroup... wonder what the odds are of running into you on a random would be |
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| 21:20.14 | alestane | Thunder_Child: I remember reading one that said Final Fantasy VII held basically the same role among RPGs. |
| 21:20.14 | alestane | Its revolution was only partly what it did for RPG gamers; rather, it brought the RPG out into mainstream gaming. |
| 21:20.16 | Fisker | nope tem |
| 21:20.20 | Fisker | i don't think so atleast |
| 21:20.25 | Dagmar | My problem with it is that it's basiclaly just an oversized iPod |
| 21:23.04 | alestane | Dagmar: The article isn't necessarily about why it is good so much as why it is likely to be successful. |
| 21:23.27 | Dagmar | Well see how relative that word is when the price is finalized |
| 21:24.39 | alestane | "Are you starting to see the larger picture here? I am not trying to convince you to buy an Apple iPad, I am trying to explain to you why you probably will anyway." |
| 21:24.39 | tem | cogwheel, if we're both queueing as a tank, pretty damn low :P |
| 21:25.32 | Dagmar | I can't code on it |
| 21:25.32 | tem | queuing*? |
| 21:25.38 | Dagmar | That's kind of a show-stopper |
| 21:25.41 | Lopeppeppy | That sentence there makes me say screw that, I'm not gettin' any such a thing. |
| 21:26.03 | alestane | "We can sit here in our geeky little dorkosphere arguing about it all day, but as much as Apple clearly enjoys our participation, the people Jobs wants to sell this to don't read our rants. They can't even understand them. My step-mother refuses to touch computers, but nowadays checks email, reads newspapers and plays Solitaire on an iPod Touch, after basically picking it up by accident one day. That's a future iPad user if I ever saw |
| 21:26.04 | Dagmar | For $500 I might as well just get an iPod touch |
| 21:26.09 | Dagmar | At least that one will fit in my pocket |
| 21:26.11 | Lopeppeppy | I am goin' home though, to my kitties who lurv me! Bye! |
| 21:26.40 | Dagmar | "<Corydon76-dig> It's an iPod that you can't hide from a mugger" |
| 21:26.44 | Kraps | http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/4/2010/01/3ffcaeee14c42d4882125fff70422d7d/original.jpg |
| 21:28.34 | cogwheel | tem: heh yeah... what class are you playing now? |
| 21:28.41 | Shirik | I don't get it Kraps |
| 21:28.53 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 21:28.55 | Fisker | just so you know |
| 21:28.58 | Fisker | i don't expect anything now |
| 21:29.01 | Shirik | ok |
| 21:29.04 | Adys | good night fisker |
| 21:29.10 | Adys | good night Shirik, good night Shiibot |
| 21:29.10 | Shirik | good night fisker |
| 21:29.12 | Adys | i love you guys |
| 21:29.16 | Fisker | goodnight Adys |
| 21:32.48 | ZorbaTHut | new apple products are like pixar movies |
| 21:32.57 | ZorbaTHut | every single previous one for the last decade has been fantastic |
| 21:33.04 | ZorbaTHut | the next one is announced, everyone talks about how terrible it's going to be |
| 21:33.09 | ZorbaTHut | turns out it's pretty dang good |
| 21:33.16 | ZorbaTHut | repeat cycle one year later. |
| 21:33.54 | ZorbaTHut | people just love sitting around wanking over preemptive shadenfreude of the big successful companies falling on their faces. happens all the time. |
| 21:38.04 | tem | cogwheel, the only toon I do heroics with in the rampage bg is my warrior tank |
| 21:38.19 | tem | on my other server, I do my DK tank and my resto druid |
| 21:41.09 | cralor | ok |
| 21:41.49 | cralor | oops |
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| 21:45.09 | cralor | Is there any good documentation on setting up localization with the new 3.3 feature? |
| 21:46.19 | Shirik | omfg I just found the best site ever |
| 21:46.35 | Shirik | It randomly creates a computer science article by just picking from random buzzwords |
| 21:46.38 | Shirik | er |
| 21:46.41 | Shirik | like a journal article |
| 21:46.42 | Shirik | formal paper |
| 21:46.48 | Shirik | http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/scigen/ |
| 21:48.10 | krka_ | pld |
| 21:51.17 | NeoTron_ | so my wife who's been wanting a lap-laptop (for when she is watching tv - apparenrly tv isn't too engaging!) is basically not impressed by the iPad |
| 21:51.38 | NeoTron_ | she's not a computer geek kind of person an still feels/recognises that the ipad is just a large iphone you can't make call son |
| 21:53.07 | Duman | hmm, forums kaput |
| 21:53.29 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 21:54.22 | Fisker | Shirik Shirik Shirik Shirik! |
| 21:55.27 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: either that, or she's just exposed to too much idiot geek pundits who overanalyze and doomsay everything without having used it, or without giving it a chance. |
| 22:00.38 | ScytheBlade1 | sweet, someone stole the "caution, wet" sign from the bathroom |
| 22:00.40 | ScytheBlade1 | and stuck a "this is sparta" label on it |
| 22:00.42 | ScytheBlade1 | "caution, this is sparta!" |
| 22:03.28 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 22:04.42 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: So... they're on the internet then? |
| 22:05.05 | Nechckn | cralor what feature is that? |
| 22:05.17 | Nechckn | must have missed some enhancement. |
| 22:06.02 | cralor | Nechckn: I don't know much about it, hence why I am asking, but I believe Addon information is now passed .. let me research |
| 22:07.15 | Nechckn | To the Patch Notes, Robin! |
| 22:07.43 | cralor | local addonName, addonTable = ...; |
| 22:07.59 | cralor | When a .lua file is loaded you can now access the name of the AddOn containing it, and an AddOn specific table (essentially an AddOn variable scope) |
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| 22:11.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: well, there actually IS some rational commentary on the internet.. but for the most part, yes :P |
| 22:11.49 | Nechckn | Ah, yeah.. see that, now, cralor. Have not heard of anyone changing anything over, though. |
| 22:12.26 | Nechckn | NightHawkTheSane Rati-a-what? Who is this rational? |
| 22:12.38 | cralor | So just make a very specific global table? |
| 22:13.25 | A-KO | Q. Is the mount available in both 10 and 25 Heroic? |
| 22:13.26 | A-KO | A. Invincible will only be available in the 25-person Heroic encounter with the Lich King. |
| 22:13.26 | A-KO | Q. Is it a random drop or is it a guaranteed drop? |
| 22:13.26 | A-KO | A. Much like Mimiron's head, one lucky player will be able to attain this incredible mount when the Lich King is defeated in his strongest form. |
| 22:13.27 | A-KO | ownage :P |
| 22:13.44 | nicoli_s | so just one? |
| 22:14.29 | NeoTron | NightHawkTheSane: hardly. it just doesn't even really do what she uses our aging laptop for |
| 22:15.01 | NeoTron | rather, what it does isn't bad per se, just bad for the cost of it based on her use patterns |
| 22:15.03 | Nechckn | cralor suppose you *could* just not sure if that would actually be better. |
| 22:15.10 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: yeah, im not certain i'd use it either |
| 22:15.36 | NightHawkTheSane | i'm just mildly annoyed at both sides of the "this will suck, guaranteed" and "best thing since sliced bread" argument |
| 22:15.43 | NeoTron | I'd love one but... $499 is just a lot of money for a big ipod touch |
| 22:15.57 | Fisker | A-KO just wait until the buff :P |
| 22:16.27 | NightHawkTheSane | well, it has far more potential than a touch. |
| 22:16.44 | NeoTron | yes sure, but the architecture is still the same |
| 22:17.17 | ZorbaTHut | it's potentially a damn sweet gaming platform, I must say |
| 22:17.23 | NeoTron | it's very possible to utilize the format to make multi-purpose apps but it's still not multitasking - most common example being listening to pandora and doing web/facebook/twitter etc |
| 22:17.35 | Nechckn | I liked the one commentary that it is aimed at the aging, who think the screens/buttons are too small on the current offerings. Which is an often-missed market segment with tech toys. |
| 22:17.55 | NeoTron | ZorbaTHut: not convinced. the iphone is fun for some kind of games but without gaming controls it'll never be a "huge" gaming platform |
| 22:18.08 | ZorbaTHut | neotron, you don't think a giant touchscreen counts as "gaming controls"? |
| 22:18.12 | NeoTron | no |
| 22:18.22 | NeoTron | well again for some games sure |
| 22:18.24 | ZorbaTHut | 'cause man I've got like four game ideas that a touchscreen would be necessary for |
| 22:18.30 | cralor | !api time() |
| 22:18.30 | lua_bot | Found 56 possible matches for 'time()'. Please be more specific |
| 22:18.41 | NeoTron | but on the iphone, any games where you say fly in 3d by touching the screen means you can't see the screen |
| 22:18.49 | NeoTron | it's sort of a drawback to have your hand in front of what you try to see |
| 22:18.59 | ZorbaTHut | sure, obviously you can make bad games with it, but there's also potential for good games |
| 22:19.05 | ZorbaTHut | this is the same issue that the NDS touchscreen had |
| 22:19.08 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: I think the lack of multitasking is big, but not the killer everyone seems to think it is. but i guess time will tell. personally, i'd use a real ipod for music.. soo :P |
| 22:19.12 | ZorbaTHut | and yet that one turned out to be quite successful |
| 22:19.28 | ZorbaTHut | also I'm expecting the multitasking issue to be fixed long before ipad revision 2 :P |
| 22:19.29 | NeoTron | I still don't think it'll be a hit gaming device |
| 22:19.44 | NeoTron | and I'm not expecting multi tasking to change |
| 22:19.44 | Torhal | Nechckn: There are quite a few AddOns which utilize the AddOn-wide name/table...it allows you to have everything available between files without exposing anything to the global namespace |
| 22:19.46 | NightHawkTheSane | ZorbaTHut: i wouldn't bet much on it |
| 22:20.01 | NeoTron | I mean the OS can multitask as much as it wants, but allowing apps to do it means developers won't be "guaranteed" full attention |
| 22:20.42 | Nechckn | Torhal right, but specifically for localization? |
| 22:20.49 | Torhal | Oh |
| 22:21.01 | Torhal | I'd say that depends on cost/benefit |
| 22:21.01 | Nechckn | Seems a bit heavy handed to load all the strings for all UI elements when they aren't up. |
| 22:21.06 | Torhal | Aye |
| 22:21.27 | Nechckn | just saying... for smaller things, it may be a good answer. |
| 22:22.16 | Torhal | Well, really, you could use it to confine your localization strings to your AddOn only instead of allowing for the possibility of someone else mucking with them from _G |
| 22:22.23 | Torhal | But I don't see that happening in the wild anyway |
| 22:22.31 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: I agree it probably wont be a huge gaming platform, but i think the UI possibilities it presents are currently under-realized |
| 22:23.09 | Nechckn | Torhal except for those with evil intent! ./muahahhaha! |
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| 22:26.42 | NeoTron | A few months ago I mentioned to a friend how I wanted a large device that has a webbrowser like the iphone |
| 22:26.59 | NeoTron | the ui benefits are rather significant to the degree that it's annoying sometimes to go back to a computer |
| 22:27.15 | NeoTron | I'd get one in a heartbeat if it wasn't so expensive (for what you get) |
| 22:27.28 | NeoTron | I wonder how much of the cost is the 8" touch screen? |
| 22:27.43 | NightHawkTheSane | probably most of it :P |
| 22:29.21 | Dagmar | NeoTron: I don't see that "annoying to go back to a computer" problem isn't equally solved with a netbook |
| 22:29.51 | Dagmar | I begin to suspect the iPad's primary customers will be "Apple users afraid of netbooks" |
| 22:29.56 | NightHawkTheSane | i do.. current netbooks bite. |
| 22:31.19 | NeoTron | Dagmar: netbooks don't have touch screens and as such are like a computer but worse since you typically don't have a mouse, and the keyboards are worse |
| 22:31.28 | NeoTron | a netbook is just a handicapped desktop |
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| 22:44.14 | NightHawkTheSane | http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2010/01/28/i-await-a-rebuttal-from-the-itty-bitty-titty-committee |
| 22:44.28 | NightHawkTheSane | (sfw.. mostly) |
| 22:46.51 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-rRf] by Shiibot |
| 22:49.28 | VonhintenHOME` | yes, ban small boobs |
| 22:49.31 | VonhintenHOME` | we want only big boob |
| 22:49.44 | VonhintenHOME` | preferably gigantic boobs |
| 22:50.10 | VonhintenHOME` | That defy gravity, without being fake |
| 22:50.43 | nicoli_s | indeed |
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| 22:59.45 | Lunessa | I'll take the boobs Australia doesn't want. FOOLS! |
| 22:59.53 | Lopeppeppy | *laugh* |
| 23:00.01 | Lopeppeppy | Why am I not surprised to hear that, dear? |
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| 23:03.29 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 23:04.34 | Jerub | Lunessa: :( |
| 23:05.50 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: 'cause I likes boobs? |
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| 23:11.56 | Lopeppeppy | You've confirmed you're a heterosexual male a few times before, I'm comfortable in my mind with knowing you prefer boobs. |
| 23:15.03 | VonhintenHOME` | you don't have to be a heterosexual male to love boobs |
| 23:15.05 | Fisker | rage |
| 23:15.06 | Fisker | hate |
| 23:15.08 | Fisker | despair |
| 23:15.15 | VonhintenHOME` | everyone should love boobs |
| 23:15.16 | Arrowmaster | boobs are last on my list, theyve been trumped by ass and legs |
| 23:16.02 | Lopeppeppy | Everyone has their ranking system. |
| 23:16.09 | VonhintenHOME` | to each his own... but you're crazy |
| 23:16.19 | VonhintenHOME` | ass I can grant ya, but legs.... |
| 23:16.34 | VonhintenHOME` | boobs are clearly > legs |
| 23:16.49 | nicoli_s | VonhintenHOME`, you going to any festivals this year? |
| 23:17.07 | VonhintenHOME` | sigh.. I don't even have time to think about it |
| 23:17.19 | nicoli_s | that sucks |
| 23:17.28 | VonhintenHOME` | but if Umphrey's McGee or Martin Sexton come close, I will make an effort |
| 23:17.41 | VonhintenHOME` | umphrey's never come down here though :T |
| 23:18.31 | WobWork | mourns for his country |
| 23:18.38 | Arrowmaster | a good zettai ryouiki > boobs |
| 23:19.02 | nicoli_s | umphreys puts on a good show |
| 23:19.12 | nicoli_s | im dying to go to coachella, just too damn expensive to fly across the country |
| 23:19.15 | VonhintenHOME` | yeah, definitely, I have a DVD of theirs |
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| 23:19.57 | nicoli_s | lol, i think i have the same one |
| 23:20.13 | nicoli_s | but at least im going to bonnaroo this year, cant miss that shit |
| 23:20.35 | Lunessa | One does not have to be a heterosexual male to *heart* boobs, but in my case it is quite true. |
| 23:21.56 | VonhintenHOME` | I've missed so many shows it makes me die a little inside |
| 23:22.05 | VonhintenHOME` | life isn't fair |
| 23:22.08 | nicoli_s | indeed |
| 23:24.37 | WobWork | life is just this. |
| 23:24.39 | WobWork | It's living. |
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| 23:28.50 | Lopeppeppy | Spike kicks ass. |
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| 23:33.03 | Arrowmaster | ok stay clear of ohio unless you want to end up purchasing a new car |
| 23:33.35 | Dagmar | I thought it was Oklahoma that was being sacrificed to the winter gods |
| 23:35.38 | Arrowmaster | my exgf commented that a lot of people she knows seem to be getting into accidents and then today she just got into one |
| 23:35.45 | Dagmar | Ah |
| 23:36.08 | Jerub | it's a government conspiracy to make people buy more fuel efficient cars. |
| 23:36.22 | Lopeppeppy | Aww, poor girl. |
| 23:39.49 | Lopeppeppy | victim of a conspiracy, poor thing. |
| 23:41.32 | zenzelezz | I shouldn't have started playing ME2 today... I'll be asleep at work tomorrow |
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| 23:51.06 | Dagmar | zenzelezz: Bioware clearly has something figured out. |
| 23:51.32 | Dagmar | "Always use a girl from a geek's favorite show as the lead supporting character" |
| 23:51.55 | WobWork | Felicia Day? |
| 23:51.55 | zenzelezz | who? |
| 23:52.00 | Adys | lol |
| 23:52.06 | Dagmar | Bad aussie accent or not, the chick in Mass Effect is definitely Yvonne Strahovski |
| 23:52.07 | Fisker | bah |
| 23:52.10 | Fisker | Felicia Day sucks |
| 23:52.10 | Dagmar | ...from Chuck. |
| 23:52.17 | Fisker | Dagmar she's an aussie? |
| 23:52.21 | WobWork | Fisker: That could be part of the attraction |
| 23:52.21 | Dagmar | Felicia will probably be doing voiceovers in the WoW movie |
| 23:52.25 | Dagmar | Fisker: No. |
| 23:52.28 | Fisker | yes+ |
| 23:52.29 | Fisker | ? |
| 23:53.03 | Fisker | Yvonne Strahovski (born Yvonne Strzechowski on 30 July 1982) is an Australian actress |
| 23:53.05 | Fisker | owned Dagmar |
| 23:53.07 | Fisker | die in hell |
| 23:53.13 | Dagmar | Just like they pulled in Claudia Black for Dragon Age Origins |
| 23:53.17 | Dagmar | Fisker: Take your head out of your ass |
| 23:53.22 | Dagmar | For just a moment... Just a MOMENT |
| 23:53.32 | WobWork | ahaha, she was in Sea Patrol |
| 23:53.33 | Fisker | no you're a moment |
| 23:53.43 | Fisker | But Claudia Black isn't hot |
| 23:54.27 | Lopeppeppy | The Billy Joel song is old, but a classic. "Sometimes a fantasy is all you need." |
| 23:54.33 | Fisker | So Dagmar |
| 23:54.38 | Fisker | Mind explaining and so forth? |
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| 23:54.54 | Dagmar | fisker: Here's a bonus question: Does Dagmar really care what you think? |
| 23:55.45 | Fisker | Dagmar atleast cared enough to resort to ad hominem so i guess so |
| 23:56.00 | WobWork | Well so did Fisker |
| 23:56.05 | Dagmar | No, if I call you a dumbass, that's an ad hominem |
| 23:56.17 | Dagmar | It might be the truth tho', since you don't apparently know what an ad hominem is |
| 23:56.29 | Fisker | If you claim i have my head up my ass that's an ad hominem as well |
| 23:56.31 | Fisker | so |
| 23:56.48 | WobWork | really? It's not a personal attack |
| 23:56.55 | WobWork | it's more.. an observation =P |
| 23:57.06 | Fisker | Saying i'm a dumbass would be the same |
| 23:57.09 | Lopeppeppy | Y'all get a room for the lovespats. |
| 23:57.17 | WobWork | well yes, that's what he said |
| 23:57.22 | WobWork | Dagmar: No, if I call you a dumbass, that's an ad hominem |
| 23:57.22 | Dagmar | Depending on how one looks at it, Ms. Stavaskawhosits is either Australian, or Polish |
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| 23:58.11 | WobWork | Dagmar: not really |
| 23:58.11 | WobWork | she was born in Australia, and studied here |
| 23:58.11 | Dagmar | All the work she's done with an american accent appears to have screwed up her aussie accent for the game |
| 23:58.12 | Thrae | Well that was a lot of work trying to build a decent "Slightly Mobile Micro PC" for my little brother, to compare to a "gaming laptop". |
| 23:58.13 | WobWork | and lived here |
| 23:58.15 | WobWork | therefore she is Australian =P |
| 23:58.28 | WobWork | even if she was from New Zealand, we'd claim her =P |
| 23:58.36 | Dagmar | WobWork: Parents both polish. Moved from Poland, then had her |
| 23:58.57 | WobWork | well yes |
| 23:59.07 | WobWork | But we're arguing if she's considered 'Australian' |
| 23:59.11 | WobWork | which she is |
| 23:59.13 | Fisker | well accent would be picked up from her surroundings rather than her parents |
| 23:59.21 | Dagmar | No, Fisker wants to argue something utterly not related to the original point |
| 23:59.26 | Dagmar | That she's in the f**king game |
| 23:59.28 | WobWork | because it's never about racial sources |
| 23:59.33 | Dagmar | Standard trollish bullshit |
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| 23:59.38 | WobWork | it's whether they were raised here =P |
| 23:59.59 | Fisker | no Dagmar i thought you didn't know she was Australian |
