| 00:00.00 | Nechckn | I think they should split the air and land abilities, too. |
| 00:00.26 | Nechckn | Do not like having to pick one or the other, they should have their own pools of points and options. |
| 00:01.01 | *** join/#wowuidev DWSR (i=c04b8bfb@gateway/web/freenode/x-glgisgycrxtfhncg) |
| 00:01.06 | DWSR | So yeah. |
| 00:01.09 | DWSR | Mass Effect 2. |
| 00:01.13 | DWSR | It's *awesome* |
| 00:01.43 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* did you have to come back? |
| 00:02.09 | Shirik | be nice! |
| 00:02.15 | Thunder_Child | that was |
| 00:02.21 | DWSR | lol |
| 00:02.36 | DWSR | The deluxe edition + preorder armor and weapons are rediculously overpowered though |
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| 00:03.24 | Maldivia | I'll have to wait another day for my ME2 :/ |
| 00:03.44 | DWSR | However, it's got a lot more content than the original ME. I've been playing like 6 hours and I'm maybe 1/4 of the way through, and I'd probably be done a fast clear of ME1. |
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| 00:04.32 | Thunder_Child | 24 hours for a rpg/fps hybrid? i call that short |
| 00:05.03 | DWSR | T_C: The thing with ME is that a lot of the content is optional. |
| 00:05.14 | DWSR | If you want to just say "I beat the game", it's like 24h. |
| 00:05.32 | DWSR | If you want to actually get your money's worth, it's like triple or quadruple that. |
| 00:07.28 | Nechckn | I never see the point in seeing how fast you can "beat" a game. |
| 00:07.54 | Nechckn | Unless you have played it through once doing all the tidbits, that is. |
| 00:08.54 | DWSR | linear gameplayiszzzz. |
| 00:09.03 | DWSR | wow space fail. |
| 00:09.35 | Nechckn | Not colorful enough for you? |
| 00:09.57 | Thunder_Child | games need to be more on the level of GB, which was like 200 hours for the core |
| 00:10.09 | Thunder_Child | s/GB/BG/ |
| 00:14.40 | Fisker | i kinda lol'd btw |
| 00:14.53 | Fisker | if a game like, let's say MASS EFFECT 2 isn't out for preload yet for europeans |
| 00:15.14 | Fisker | if you find the app id for it and run the install manually it'll let you install but stop the download because you're not authorized |
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| 00:15.32 | Fisker | but they keep downloading as long as you don't get past the last box, which is before they check if you may download it |
| 00:15.33 | Fisker | HOHO |
| 00:16.15 | DWSR | meh. |
| 00:16.24 | DWSR | that's whatever |
| 00:17.06 | DWSR | it downloads it encrypted anyway. all the preorder does is allow you to just decrypt to play, instead of download it, which is usually slower. |
| 00:23.04 | Thunder_Child | torrent ftw |
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| 00:25.53 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 00:27.52 | Shirik | HOHO |
| 00:28.19 | Thunder_Child | one more HO and you could be santa |
| 00:29.09 | ScytheBlade1 | http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100120194836AAXkBam |
| 00:29.49 | Torhal | Best reCaptcha yet: nuclean pincers |
| 00:29.50 | Shirik | whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat |
| 00:29.57 | Torhal | s/nuclean/nuclear/ |
| 00:30.04 | Shirik | ~wiki chicken powered nuclear bomb |
| 00:30.11 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1: hah, the source is amazing |
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| 00:30.39 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: yup |
| 00:31.29 | Fisker | i need sleep Shirik |
| 00:31.31 | Fisker | help me |
| 00:31.32 | Fisker | HOHO |
| 00:31.38 | Shirik | you need a chicken powered nuclear bomb |
| 00:31.39 | Shirik | HOHO |
| 00:32.54 | ScytheBlade1 | Suddenly, chicken sounds -great- |
| 00:33.04 | ScytheBlade1 | I was just debating what to do for dinner too :/ |
| 00:33.27 | Fisker | well Thunder_Child btw |
| 00:33.37 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1: kung pao ftw |
| 00:33.45 | Fisker | it's nice to know in the instances where retards don't pay other retards money for making inferior copy protection |
| 00:33.50 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: no |
| 00:33.55 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1: yes |
| 00:33.58 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: no |
| 00:34.01 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1: yes |
| 00:34.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Thunder_Child: no |
| 00:34.03 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+bb %*!*@about/pxe/ScytheBlade1 %*!n=Death@*] by Shiibot |
| 00:34.06 | Thunder_Child | hah |
| 00:34.08 | Thunder_Child | I WIN! |
| 00:34.28 | Fisker | Thunder_Child: no |
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| 00:34.43 | Thunder_Child | Shiibot: 1 channel: 0 |
| 00:34.44 | Fisker | this is going to get ugly btw Shirik |
| 00:34.45 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: yes |
| 00:34.50 | Fisker | Thunder_Child: no |
| 00:34.52 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: yes |
| 00:34.53 | Fisker | Thunder_Child: no |
| 00:34.58 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: yes! |
| 00:35.00 | Fisker | Thunder_Child: no |
| 00:35.03 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: yes! |
| 00:35.05 | Fisker | Thunder_Child: no  |
| 00:35.05 | Arrowmaster | so the bioware site has me listed for 'Terminus Weapon and Armor' 'Collectors' Weapon and Armor' 'Inferno Armor' 'Blood Dragon Armor' for both pc and xbox, and 'Cerberus Weapon and Armor (Cerberus Network)' for xbox, i think i got everything |
| 00:35.07 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: yes |
| 00:35.09 | Fisker | Thunder_Child: no  |
| 00:35.13 | Shirik | I'm going to hurt you both |
| 00:35.18 | Fisker | :( |
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| 00:35.22 | Thunder_Child | we cant troll each other properly Fisker |
| 00:35.36 | Thunder_Child | we have to combine our powers |
| 00:35.41 | Fisker | you didn't Arrowmaster |
| 00:35.46 | Fisker | 10x dlc for j00 |
| 00:35.51 | Arrowmaster | what did i miss? |
| 00:35.51 | Fisker | or you don't have everything |
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| 00:36.21 | Thunder_Child | terminus is 40K iirc |
| 00:36.51 | Thunder_Child | :( i am having horrid luck today with randoms |
| 00:36.56 | Fisker | ME2_UmbraVisor.exe, ME2_ReconHood.exe, ME2_Incisor.exe, ME2_Sentry.exe, ME2_Collectors.exe, ME2_Inferno.exe, ME2_Terminus.exe, ME2_NormandyCrash.exe, ME2_Zaeed.exe, ME2_BloodDragon.exe |
| 00:36.56 | *** mode/#wowuidev [-bb %*!*@about/pxe/ScytheBlade1 %*!n=Death@*] by Shirik |
| 00:36.59 | Fisker | that's all of them |
| 00:37.05 | ScytheBlade1 | Shiibot is terrible |
| 00:37.07 | ScytheBlade1 | I want that noted |
| 00:37.13 | Shirik | You are terrible |
| 00:37.22 | Thunder_Child | well it was my fault tbh |
| 00:37.24 | Thunder_Child | but oh so fun |
| 00:37.43 | Fisker | the armors are lame though |
| 00:37.49 | Fisker | they take away everything |
| 00:38.11 | Fisker | so they're probably not worth it if you have better items |
| 00:38.52 | Fisker | the incisor rifle is pretty cool |
| 00:39.09 | Fisker | the assault rifle and heavy weapon you get is also cool |
| 00:39.43 | Arrowmaster | ill try and check them out once i copy both dvds to my harddrive |
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| 00:42.01 | Fisker | some of them are various preorder and other campaigns |
| 00:42.12 | Fisker | probably around half of them are that |
| 00:43.32 | Cairenn | gives Tem birthday spankings |
| 00:44.21 | Lopeppeppy | approves of this message! |
| 00:45.01 | Fisker | his birthday is over |
| 00:46.27 | Lopeppeppy | Never |
| 00:47.03 | Fisker | i just executed him |
| 00:47.04 | Fisker | so it is |
| 00:47.27 | Kraps | omg spoilerz |
| 00:47.29 | Jerub | tem: happy birthday. |
| 00:47.38 | Fisker | sorry Kraps |
| 00:47.46 | Fisker | didn't mean to say that Tem dies on page 606 |
| 00:48.03 | Thunder_Child | well that doesnt stop the day of his birth Fisker, it simply adds the day of his death as well |
| 00:48.05 | ScytheBlade1 | oh man, Fisker is turning up the quality on the trolling |
| 00:48.53 | Fisker | well Thunder_Child is people going to remember it as the day he was born or the day he was killed? |
| 00:49.05 | ScytheBlade1 | *are |
| 00:49.06 | ScytheBlade1 | l2grammar |
| 00:49.19 | Fisker | it's 2 on the morning |
| 00:49.25 | Fisker | in* |
| 00:49.29 | ScytheBlade1 | ololol |
| 00:49.32 | *** part/#wowuidev Shirik (n=mpdelbuo@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik) |
| 00:49.35 | ScytheBlade1 | I couldn't tell if that was intentional or not |
| 00:49.36 | *** join/#wowuidev Shirik (n=mpdelbuo@WoWUIDev/WoWIStaff/Norganna/StatisticalEngineer/Shirik) |
| 00:49.36 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Shirik] by ChanServ |
| 00:49.40 | ScytheBlade1 | I went with intentional |
| 00:50.05 | tem | thanks guys :) |
| 00:50.14 | Fisker | nah like 2 hours a go i figured i'd just go check some stuff before heading to bed |
| 00:50.22 | ScytheBlade1 | ah |
| 00:50.32 | Thunder_Child | you say thanks to that tem? man you are hard up for birthday wishes |
| 00:50.58 | Fisker | I was quite the jerk actually |
| 00:51.01 | ScytheBlade1 | is curious where Cairenn gets her birthday list |
| 00:51.13 | tem | ScytheBlade1, I'm pretty sure she's cheating off of wowi accouns |
| 00:51.14 | Thunder_Child | ScytheBlade1: the FBI |
| 00:51.14 | tem | ts |
| 00:51.15 | Fisker | well she doesn't get it from me :( |
| 00:51.16 | Shirik | stabs mirc |
| 00:51.19 | Cairenn | has secret ways |
| 00:51.24 | Shirik | Cairenn is a stalker |
| 00:51.29 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: about time |
| 00:51.35 | ScytheBlade1 | tem: that's my bet too |
| 00:51.35 | Shirik | mirc has a /remove command |
| 00:51.41 | Shirik | which directly conflicts with freenode's REMOVE command |
| 00:51.54 | Fisker | l2/raw |
| 00:51.59 | ScytheBlade1 | ^ |
| 00:52.00 | Shirik | l2idid |
| 00:52.04 | Shirik | but is annoying |
| 00:52.13 | Arrowmaster | freenode has a remove command? |
| 00:52.23 | *** part/#wowuidev Arrowmaster (i=arrow@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ResponsibleForEverythingAndNothing/Arrowmaster) |
| 00:52.31 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 00:52.33 | Fisker | i wonder what /remove is for |
| 00:52.41 | Fisker | the one mirc has, not that one |
| 00:52.47 | Shirik | it deletes a file |
| 00:52.49 | *** join/#wowuidev Arrowmaster (i=arrow@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ResponsibleForEverythingAndNothing/Arrowmaster) |
| 00:52.53 | Fisker | do it on me |
| 00:52.56 | Shirik | noty |
| 00:52.59 | Fisker | i want to see how much is pisses me off |
| 00:53.02 | Fisker | do it |
| 00:53.03 | Arrowmaster | never do that again, it will fuck up my channel ordering when i restart xchat |
| 00:53.04 | Fisker | DO IT! |
| 00:53.09 | Shirik | sorry Arrowmaster :) |
| 00:53.13 | Fisker | that was my thought Arrowmaster |
| 00:53.16 | Fisker | now do it Shirik |
| 00:53.27 | Shirik | Fisker, you already had your ban for the day |
| 00:53.35 | ScytheBlade1 | no that was me |
| 00:53.41 | Shirik | you both did :P |
| 00:53.41 | Thunder_Child | there is a limit? |
| 00:53.47 | Fisker | Shirik you like sausagepancakes |
| 00:53.48 | Arrowmaster | so thats just a cheap way to get around auto rejoin on kick |
| 00:53.53 | Shirik | yup |
| 00:54.07 | Fisker | real men don't auto-rejoin on kick |
| 00:54.17 | Thunder_Child | real men dont get kicked |
| 00:54.42 | Fisker | real men get removed |
| 00:54.45 | Fisker | by Shirik |
| 00:54.56 | Shirik | you must not be a real man |
| 00:55.23 | *** join/#wowuidev Dashkal (n=dashkal@WoWUIDev/Nexus/dashkal) |
| 00:57.00 | Fisker | i'm going to cause you physical and psychological trauma Shirik |
| 00:57.14 | Fisker | you are going to remove me from this channel and like it |
| 00:58.50 | Lunessa | Fisker, mindlessly pissing in people's cornflakes ... because it makes him hard. |
| 00:59.03 | Lunessa | And on that note, I'm out for tonight. Raid night. :) |
| 00:59.14 | Thunder_Child | you cant raid and idle in irc? |
| 00:59.15 | Thunder_Child | fail |
| 00:59.31 | Fisker | apparently not |
| 00:59.34 | Fisker | but Shirik |
| 00:59.35 | Fisker | do this |
| 01:01.32 | Fisker | btw cog|away |
| 01:01.35 | Fisker | are you here? |
| 01:01.41 | Shirik | this() |
| 01:01.58 | Shirik | syntax error: Unexpected token near '(' |
| 01:02.01 | Fisker | DO IT SHIRIK GOD DAMN YOU |
| 01:02.47 | Shirik | Cannot convert Shirik* to void(*)(void): Types pointed to are unrelated. Conversion requires an explicit C cast, function-style cast, or reinterpret_cast. |
| 01:06.13 | kd3 | oh what the hell |
| 01:06.13 | kd3 | found his copy of "Still Alive" lying around |
| 01:06.13 | Shirik | haha |
| 01:06.34 | Shirik | want a better song stuck in your head? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wg3i2xUjZg&feature=related |
| 01:06.45 | Shirik | been stuck in mine for about 2 weeks now :P |
| 01:06.56 | Shirik | or rather the english version |
| 01:07.30 | Lopeppeppy | Aperture science. We do what we must because we can. |
| 01:07.47 | kd3 | "...except for the ones who are dead" |
| 01:07.56 | Lopeppeppy | My favorite line of the song. :) |
| 01:08.41 | Fisker | well i'm going to sleep nao |
| 01:08.47 | Fisker | goodbye cruel kd3 |
| 01:08.56 | kd3 | buh-bye fisk-fisk |
| 01:08.56 | Shirik | I will find you Fisker |
| 01:09.10 | Thunder_Child | thats odd, i won the DE for an item and it gave me the item |
| 01:09.50 | Thunder_Child | oh..no, it DE'd it and left it in the chest... |
| 01:11.18 | Jerub | i always irc while raiding... |
| 01:11.35 | Jerub | i also watch tv and read website.s.. |
| 01:12.54 | Thunder_Child | same |
| 01:14.17 | Jerub | i've recently discovered a fantastic raidleader who explains fights really really well. I love raiding with him, but I have to mute him before fights because he drowns out the tv. |
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| 01:19.25 | Shirik | Kraps: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2010-01-25/BLP_madness |
| 01:21.05 | Kraps | kinda busy leveling :p |
| 01:22.14 | Shirik | what |
| 01:22.17 | Shirik | you can level in your sleep |
| 01:23.10 | Lopeppeppy | haxxorx |
| 01:25.40 | cog|away | Fisker: wut |
| 01:25.52 | Kraps | Shirik: that is a lie |
| 01:26.03 | Shirik | :( |
| 01:26.04 | cogwheel | this sentence is false |
| 01:26.33 | Shirik | no it's not |
| 01:27.19 | Shirik | how do you respond to that! |
| 01:27.20 | Kraps | the statement below in false |
| 01:27.21 | Kraps | the statement above is true |
| 01:27.40 | cogwheel | ^ really needed a C-C-C-Combo breaker imo |
| 01:32.02 | ScytheBlade1 | hm |
| 01:32.07 | ScytheBlade1 | My mouse cursor has disappeared. |
| 01:32.37 | Thunder_Child | cogwheel: no it didnt, it failed all by itself |
| 01:33.04 | Kraps | it hates you |
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| 01:34.13 | Shirik | anyone here know lisp? |
| 01:34.16 | Shirik | Why is this invalid? |
| 01:34.21 | Shirik | (defun is-true(v) (v)) |
| 01:34.37 | cogwheel | not enough ()s? |
| 01:34.47 | cogwheel | is talking out his ass, btw |
| 01:34.57 | Shirik | ACL2 Error in ( DEFUN IS-TRUE ...): The symbol V (in package "ACL2") has neither a function nor macro definition in ACL2. Please define it. |
| 01:36.21 | cogwheel | why isn't there a separate volume control for speech? QQ |
| 01:38.13 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: found your problem |
| 01:38.16 | ScytheBlade1 | Shirik: you're using lisp |
| 01:38.19 | Shirik | -_- |
| 01:38.23 | ScytheBlade1 | =] |
| 01:38.31 | Shirik | I would love to see you write a theorem prover in any non-functional language |
| 01:40.18 | ScytheBlade1 | man chrome sucks for mouseless navigation |
| 01:40.35 | ScytheBlade1 | Then again, so does everything but firefox |
| 01:46.22 | Shirik | lol |
| 01:46.25 | Shirik | loooooooooooooooooooooooooool |
| 01:46.40 | Shirik | I just got an email from one of the teams that is working on building a car with me |
| 01:47.11 | Shirik | Basically they said they have a Feb 1 deadline, so they're going to spend the next 5 days developing the software for the entire hybrid controls system and put it in without any form of testing in hopes that it is able to drive around the block on Feb 1 |
| 01:47.42 | WobWork | Shirik: That's a plan that's -bound- to work! |
| 01:48.04 | Shirik | I think I was nice when I responded to the other people on my team with " It may be inappropriate to be talking behind their backs here, but seriously, even they can't possibly think this is safe." |
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| 01:48.35 | Shirik | I'm torn because on one side I want to see it blow up in their face, and on the other side I don't want the team to fail |
| 01:50.49 | Shirik | My other email of the day: |
| 01:50.52 | Shirik | From the email: (down while the issues with the SVN server are addressed) |
| 01:50.52 | Shirik | l2readtyvmkthxbai :) |
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| 01:52.39 | Shirik | (In response to someone sending me a reply to an email saying a server was still down) |
| 01:54.31 | Shirik | waaaaaaaaat http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?sku=270052 |
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| 01:56.34 | frontendloader | any of you know if theres a markup code I can use to insert a link in google docs word processor? |
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| 02:01.58 | WobWork | frontendloader: click the 'link' button? |
| 02:03.49 | cralor | What does the '#' character do in Lua? |
| 02:04.25 | Legorol | nothing special |
| 02:04.34 | Legorol | why? |
| 02:04.52 | cralor | Just curious. I'm looking in BugSack and I see: local size = #currentSackContents |
| 02:05.06 | Legorol | oh yah, i'm a muppet :) it asks for table size |
| 02:05.10 | Legorol | bonks himself |
| 02:05.56 | cralor | so size{} with 10 keys will print "10" when you do #size |
| 02:06.05 | Legorol | more precisely: see http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#2.5.5 |
| 02:06.14 | Legorol | no, it doesn't count keys, it's a bit more subtle than that |
| 02:07.23 | cralor | hmm |
| 02:07.48 | cralor | what would be an example? |
| 02:08.06 | Legorol | size[1] = "apple", size[2] = "orange", size[3] = "banana" |
| 02:08.11 | Legorol | print(#size) will give 3 |
| 02:08.30 | cralor | ok that's what i thought. |
| 02:08.31 | Legorol | so for a normal array with integer indices and no gaps, it works as expected |
| 02:08.35 | Legorol | but: |
| 02:08.45 | Legorol | size[1] = "apple", size[2] = "orange", size[3] = "banana", size[4] = nil, size[5] = "carrot" |
| 02:08.49 | cralor | this will be a BIG help |
| 02:08.59 | Legorol | in this case, print(#size) may be 4 or 6. which one it is is undefined |
| 02:09.05 | Legorol | oops i mean maybe 3 or 5 |
| 02:09.17 | cralor | yeah ok. well i won't have nils |
| 02:09.32 | Legorol | you'd think how often people make that mistake when they think they don't have nils :) |
| 02:10.09 | cralor | What do you call the [1] |
| 02:10.27 | Legorol | an example of such a pitfall would be: buttons[1] = myButton; buttons[2] = yourButton; buttons[3] = hisButton; buttons[4] = herButton; buttons[5] = ourButton; |
| 02:10.41 | Legorol | if one of the references to a button happens to be nil, it screws up # |
| 02:10.59 | Legorol | the 1 inside [1] would be called an index |
| 02:11.07 | cralor | ok |
| 02:11.08 | Legorol | [ and ] are square brackets |
| 02:11.15 | Legorol | beyond that, i'm not sure what the question referred to |
| 02:11.15 | cralor | right lol |
| 02:11.24 | cralor | How do I nuke indexes? |
| 02:11.35 | Legorol | i don't understand the question |
| 02:11.47 | Legorol | a table has keys and values |
| 02:11.55 | Legorol | if the keys are integers, they are usually called indices |
| 02:12.11 | cralor | Ok. What if I want to get rid of some indexes so that when I use the lenght operator, it won't keep returning the same number |
| 02:12.15 | Legorol | i'm not sure what "nuking an index" would be |
| 02:12.25 | Legorol | right, then use table.remove |
| 02:12.26 | Seerah | table.remove() |
| 02:12.29 | jnwhiteh | nuking the value at a given index, I suspect =) |
| 02:12.39 | Legorol | jnwhiteh: that would screw up # |
| 02:12.45 | jnwhiteh | :P |
| 02:13.03 | Legorol | cralor: now that i understand your question, it was a very good one |
| 02:13.13 | cralor | Lol |
| 02:13.31 | Legorol | see http://www.lua.org/manual/5.1/manual.html#pdf-table.remove for table.remove |
| 02:13.54 | cralor | I'm not fluent with programming terms, so it's sometimes hard for me to explain :) |
| 02:14.01 | Legorol | you'd be surprised how many people say they understood the definition of #, that they won't have gaps, and then procede to remove values from the table by doing things such as t[3] = nil |
| 02:14.18 | Legorol | that's fine, we'll ask back until you make it precise, or give an example :) nothing wrong with that |
| 02:15.23 | cralor | lua> db = { 1 = "hi" } db.remove(1) print(db[1]) |
| 02:15.24 | lua_bot | cralor: luabot:1: '}' expected near '=' |
| 02:15.29 | Legorol | jnwhiteh: ping. the most awesome feature request just occured to me with regards to wowlua. |
| 02:15.35 | jnwhiteh | ok |
| 02:15.44 | Legorol | it'd be nice if it had a graphing and/or drawing pane |
| 02:16.04 | Legorol | where you could use simple draw instructions such as point, line or circle drawing |
| 02:16.05 | jnwhiteh | for why? |
| 02:16.10 | Legorol | but point and line are enough :) |
| 02:16.16 | jnwhiteh | That's quite outside the scope of WowLua, unfortunately |
| 02:16.18 | Legorol | there are no easy ways to achieve that |
| 02:16.21 | jnwhiteh | while I agree it would be useful |
| 02:16.30 | Legorol | yah i understand |
| 02:16.35 | cralor | what did I do wrong o_O |
| 02:16.37 | theorbtwo | There seem to be plenty of addons that draw stuff on the screen. |
| 02:16.42 | jnwhiteh | afaik there already exist such addons |
| 02:16.42 | Legorol | well wowlua has a "console" doesn't it |
| 02:16.44 | theorbtwo | It can't be that complicated... |
| 02:16.52 | Legorol | so it could also provide a graphical output window :) |
| 02:16.56 | Legorol | not strictly outside its scope |
| 02:17.06 | jnwhiteh | cralor: keys must be in [] unless they are simple strings,so {[1] = "hi"}, or simply {"hi"} |
| 02:17.15 | cralor | ah ok |
| 02:17.22 | jnwhiteh | Legorol: It's outside the scope of what I'm willing to put into the addon =) |
| 02:17.32 | Seerah | cralor: firstly... en... jnwhiteh beat me. Also, table.remove(db, 1) |
| 02:17.39 | Legorol | cralor: indeed, to make the example go a bit further: |
| 02:17.53 | cralor | lua> db = { "hi" } db.remove(db, 1) print(db[1]) |
| 02:17.54 | lua_bot | cralor: luabot:1: attempt to call field 'remove' (a nil value) |
| 02:18.02 | cralor | oops |
| 02:18.06 | Seerah | table.remove :) |
| 02:18.06 | Legorol | it's not <tablename>.remove |
| 02:18.09 | cralor | whatever :D |
| 02:18.10 | Legorol | it's literally table.remove |
| 02:18.24 | Legorol | db = { "hi", "ho", "he" } is the same as db = { [1] = "hi", [2] = "ho", [3] = "he" } |
| 02:18.31 | cralor | ugh it should be table.remove(index) |
| 02:18.43 | Legorol | no, because then how does it know which table to act on? |
| 02:18.48 | Seerah | no. you need to tell it which table to remove from |
| 02:18.54 | cralor | Table = /table/ |
| 02:19.01 | cralor | table_name.remove |
| 02:19.04 | Legorol | no |
| 02:19.06 | jnwhiteh | You can make it Table:remove(index) |
| 02:19.11 | jnwhiteh | but that would be terrible by default. |
| 02:19.15 | Legorol | because that would imply that your table has an entry called remove |
| 02:19.22 | cralor | oh ok |
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| 02:19.31 | Legorol | consider this: table_name.remove is the same as table_name["remove"] |
| 02:19.36 | cralor | Yeah :D |
| 02:19.50 | Legorol | since you can have keys that are strings, and values that are functions :) |
| 02:20.01 | Legorol | in fact 'table' is a table full of useful functions pertaining to tables |
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| 02:20.11 | cralor | ok well now I think I can accomplish this more easily :P |
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| 02:20.17 | Seerah | lua> db = {"hi", "ho", "he"} table.remove(db, 2) print(unpack(db)) |
| 02:20.17 | lua_bot | Seerah: hi, he |
| 02:20.23 | awweaver | sry about that, had to make sure my setting were correct |
| 02:22.29 | Legorol | lua> db = { "hi", "ho" }; print(db); setmetatable(db, table); db:remove(1); print(db) |
| 02:22.29 | lua_bot | Legorol: table: 0x8d36f10, luabot:1: attempt to call method 'remove' (a nil value) |
| 02:22.50 | Legorol | hmmmz |
| 02:22.54 | Legorol | where did i fail |
| 02:23.07 | Legorol | does lua> not allow setmetatable? |
| 02:23.22 | Seerah | lua> print(setmetatable) |
| 02:23.22 | lua_bot | Seerah: function: 0x93afe90 |
| 02:23.23 | Legorol | lua> db = { "hi", "ho" }; print(table); setmetatable(db, table); print(getmetatable(db)) |
| 02:23.24 | lua_bot | Legorol: table: 0x95ea6b8, table: 0x95ea6b8 |
| 02:23.30 | Legorol | seems like it does |
| 02:23.39 | Legorol | lua> db = { "hi", "ho" }; print(table); setmetatable(db, table); print(getmetatable(db)); print(db.remove) |
| 02:23.39 | lua_bot | Legorol: table: 0x86ca6b8, table: 0x86ca6b8, nil |
| 02:23.53 | jnwhiteh | you can use pp |
| 02:23.53 | Legorol | oooh nvm, i'm dumb |
| 02:24.02 | jnwhiteh | lua> pp(_G) |
| 02:24.02 | lua_bot | jnwhiteh: { ["string"] = { ["split"] = function: 0x932e458, ["match"] = function: 0x930fc88, ["gmatch"] = function: 0x930fbb0, ["upper"] = function: 0x930fd58, ["gsub"] = function: 0x930fbe8, ["format"] = function: 0x930fb40, ["lower"] = function: 0x930fc50, ["sub"] = function: 0x930fd28, ["gfind"] = function... (result truncated) |
| 02:24.27 | kd3 | ...wha? they pulled the nelf mohawk? |
| 02:24.29 | Legorol | lua> db = { "hi", "ho" }; setmetatable(db, {__index = table}); db:remove(1); print(unpack(db)) |
| 02:24.29 | lua_bot | Legorol: ho |
| 02:24.32 | Legorol | that's better |
| 02:24.37 | Legorol | kd3: ZOMG!! |
| 02:25.08 | kd3 | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=22748778362&sid=1 |
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| 02:25.16 | ScytheBlade1 | http://voices.washingtonpost.com/comic-riffs/2010/01/the_best_webcomic_its_time_to.html |
| 02:25.19 | ScytheBlade1 | PA, go |
| 02:26.01 | Legorol | lua> db = { "hi", "ho" }; setmetatable(db, {__index = table}); db:remove(1); pp(db) |
| 02:26.01 | lua_bot | Legorol: { "ho" } (#1) |
| 02:26.33 | Dagmar | Man it's almost sad PvP has 0% on there. It's a great comic, but it's probably being eclipsed by virtue of the same people who like it also read Penny Arcade |
| 02:31.17 | Jerub | I'm stunned by how few votes for QC there are. |
| 02:31.56 | cralor | I just found out that OnUpdate only runs when WoW has focus |
| 02:32.02 | cralor | >_< |
| 02:32.04 | jnwhiteh | tat's new in 3.3 |
| 02:32.04 | jnwhiteh | and a bug |
| 02:32.12 | cralor | Oh ok |
| 02:32.39 | cralor | OnUpdate... always so... cynical |
| 02:34.44 | Legorol | jnwhiteh: it's a bug? and i was lovin it |
| 02:34.44 | Dagmar | Oh so it's possible it'll get fixed then? That's good |
| 02:34.51 | jnwhiteh | Legorol: no, it's a bug. |
| 02:34.55 | Legorol | :*( |
| 02:35.13 | cralor | ok still having issues: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/132006 |
| 02:35.16 | jnwhiteh | why would you desire this behavior? |
| 02:38.08 | cralor | I'm trying to make Next/Previous buttons |
| 02:40.45 | Shadowed | cralor: Only if you are in full screen |
| 02:40.49 | Legorol | lua> db = { subdb = { 1, 2 } }; print(#db); print(#db.subdb) |
| 02:40.49 | lua_bot | Legorol: 0, 2 |
| 02:40.52 | Shadowed | windowed mode + alt tabbed will still work |
| 02:41.19 | cralor | Shadowed: yeah it was just something i observed |
| 02:41.20 | Legorol | cralor: can you describe your issue(s)? on first read there's no problem with your code |
| 02:41.44 | cralor | Well... when I press the "Next" button ... nothing happens :P |
| 02:42.01 | cralor | shall I supply more code? |
| 02:42.22 | Legorol | the only thing you are doing in RW_Next is to call newtext. what does that do? |
| 02:42.32 | cogwheel | anyone remember the name of that development/funding model where you post an outline for a project and promise to code it/release it once you reach a certain amount of contributions? |
| 02:42.58 | Legorol | ooh, neat idea when applied to addons |
| 02:43.10 | cralor | legorol: http://wowuidev.pastey.net/132007 |
| 02:43.12 | cogwheel | esp wrt motivation :> |
| 02:43.21 | Legorol | mm, i'm not sure i wouldn't fall into a trap |
| 02:43.28 | Legorol | got the money, now i'm lazy... kind of thing |
| 02:43.31 | ajmitch | I've heard it called the ransom model, usually with releasing it once enough people pay |
| 02:43.36 | Legorol | it relies on guilty concience as motivator |
| 02:44.00 | cogwheel | yeah, and rock-solid T&C >< |
| 02:44.22 | Legorol | cralor: are your tables correctly set up with some content already? |
| 02:44.45 | Legorol | namely, do you have at least two pages of text? |
| 02:44.48 | cralor | they are set up like: table = { msg = { "hi" } } |
| 02:45.03 | Legorol | i understand the format, i'm asking if you already have enough content for Next to actually be useful |
| 02:45.39 | Legorol | at any rate, start with basic debugging. check that RW_Next is actually getting called |
| 02:45.50 | cralor | well, the addon takes messages and puts into table. and i had planned on display one "message" per "frame". but instead create one frame, and change the text |
| 02:45.54 | Legorol | for example, insert a debug statement in the first line of it that prints to a chat frame |
| 02:46.05 | Legorol | i understand the purpose |
| 02:46.12 | cralor | for each "message" i also gather the Author, and Time |
| 02:46.13 | Legorol | you still haven't answered my question :) do you have 2 messages already? |
| 02:46.17 | cralor | ya |
| 02:46.19 | Legorol | ok |
| 02:46.32 | Legorol | then put your code full of debugging statements :) |
| 02:46.37 | cralor | ok :D |
| 02:46.56 | Legorol | it's customary to do something like DEFAULT_CHAT_FRAME:AddMessage("wohoo, i got here") and similar in a bunch of places |
| 02:47.05 | cralor | print() ftw |
| 02:47.20 | Legorol | does WoW have one now? |
| 02:47.25 | cralor | and in-game :D |
| 02:47.28 | ScytheBlade1 | it has since 3.0 iirc |
| 02:47.31 | Legorol | ok |
| 02:47.39 | Legorol | cralor: WoW didn't have print for a long time |
| 02:47.41 | cralor | I thought it had one in-code, but not always in-game |
| 02:47.57 | cralor | either way, I'm fairly new to the addon scene. |
| 02:48.01 | Legorol | ok |
| 02:48.07 | Legorol | but what do you mean by "it has one in-code" |
| 02:48.15 | Legorol | there's only one way to run Lua in WoW, and that's in-game |
| 02:48.36 | Legorol | anyway, i'm digressing :) |
| 02:48.36 | cralor | I thought at one time print() was defined in your .lua files, but not necessarily in /script print() |
| 02:48.53 | ScytheBlade1 | well you /could/ define it yourself |
| 02:48.55 | jnwhiteh | no, it was never split like that |
| 02:49.07 | Legorol | i'd be very surprised if that was the case. the same environment has always been available from .lua files as from /script |
| 02:49.08 | jnwhiteh | and tehre's no separation between stuff run as addons, and code run as macros |
| 02:49.12 | jnwhiteh | there's one global lua environment. |
| 02:49.32 | jnwhiteh | you did used to ave it in standalone lua but not in wow, but that's different. |
| 02:50.03 | Legorol | gnight folks ( jnwhiteh, sleep!) |
| 02:50.09 | jnwhiteh | i can't =/ |
| 02:50.15 | Legorol | :( |
| 02:50.17 | Legorol | busy or insomnia? |
| 02:50.24 | jnwhiteh | cannot sleep at all =( |
| 02:50.31 | ScytheBlade1 | :( |
| 02:50.37 | Legorol | ack, know the feeling |
| 02:50.38 | jnwhiteh | well was asleep |
| 02:50.41 | jnwhiteh | from 11:00 - 1:00 |
| 02:50.46 | Legorol | well take care then |
| 02:50.48 | jnwhiteh | and then woke up for some reason, and can't et back to bed. |
| 02:50.48 | kd3 | would you like me to ship you a baseball bat to whack yourself with? |
| 02:50.50 | jnwhiteh | you too! |
| 02:51.26 | ScytheBlade1 | jnwhiteh: I've got some extender release extra strength ambien, AND another one entirely that makes ambien look weak |
| 02:51.32 | ScytheBlade1 | jnwhiteh: interested? ;) |
| 02:51.34 | jnwhiteh | hehe |
| 02:51.37 | jnwhiteh | woudln't help for tonight |
| 02:51.43 | jnwhiteh | i have something.. but it'd make me sleep too later |
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| 02:51.44 | jnwhiteh | late |
| 02:51.52 | jnwhiteh | i need to be up and woring in a few hours |
| 02:51.58 | jnwhiteh | didn't get much done today |
| 02:52.02 | cralor | oof |
| 02:52.04 | jnwhiteh | and have to meet with my supervisor on friday again |
| 02:52.05 | Jerub | well, while you're not sleeping, you could do quests on my mage, I want him to level 70 by friday. |
| 02:52.05 | ScytheBlade1 | no, but you'd wake up thursday morning feeling great :) |
| 02:52.13 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 02:52.21 | cralor | makes me feel happy being young :P |
| 02:54.00 | ScytheBlade1 | jnwhiteh: well, don't say I didn't offer. :) |
| 02:54.05 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 02:54.31 | ScytheBlade1 | nothing quite like the "holy crap I'm tired but can't sleep" blur of happiness |
| 02:56.22 | Jerub | ScytheBlade1: how do you feel like the "holy crap I'm tired but can't sleep because we wiped on saurfang AGAIN and we want to get him down because we know the raid won't reform tomorrow" |
| 02:56.41 | ScytheBlade1 | Jerub: sucks to be you |
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| 02:57.15 | Jerub | (the wipes on deathwhisper were me, wipes on saurfang were not) |
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| 03:20.44 | kd3 | oh wow, I'm shocked it took this long |
| 03:21.01 | kd3 | just got phishing emails on his "public" email address |
| 03:21.17 | cbreak | grats |
| 03:21.18 | cbreak | jackpot! |
| 03:21.20 | cbreak | sue them |
| 03:21.23 | Ancu | what took this long? |
| 03:21.36 | Ancu | lol |
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| 03:22.20 | kd3 | har, forged headers from hotmail |
| 03:24.01 | Ancu | Bank phishers? WoW phishers? What kind of phishers? |
| 03:24.08 | kd3 | wow |
| 03:24.27 | kd3 | and bogus reverse dns |
| 03:24.33 | kd3 | Received: from blizzard.com ([58.22.162.19]) |
| 03:25.02 | ScytheBlade1 | wow |
| 03:25.04 | Ancu | thats always the way they do it |
| 03:25.28 | Ancu | yeah, I have seen that one acctualy, a friend got it |
| 03:25.33 | cbreak | they did more than I expected |
| 03:25.50 | cbreak | wonder how many people actually look at e-mail headers |
| 03:25.55 | Ancu | I forget what the reply too address was though |
| 03:26.15 | kd3 | support@blizzard.com |
| 03:27.10 | kd3 | and gmail's filters need work. though the spam filter caught all of them, only half got flagged as phishing attempts |
| 03:27.48 | Jerub | i don't think people realise exactly how bad google is at spam filtering. |
| 03:28.02 | ScytheBlade1 | man, the .msi installer format is nice |
| 03:28.02 | Jerub | sure, it's alright, but they're no experts. |
| 03:28.10 | ScytheBlade1 | "Install on first run" is crazy awesome |
| 03:29.28 | kd3 | http://phishing.pastey.net/132008 |
| 03:29.55 | kd3 | ^ that's pretty crazy |
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| 03:31.34 | ScytheBlade1 | X-Mailer: WorldClient 10.1.2 |
| 03:31.35 | ScytheBlade1 | lol |
| 03:32.07 | cogwheel | http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/4817/lollockmo2.jpg |
| 03:33.37 | Kraps | is there a proc meter? |
| 03:33.52 | Kraps | addon |
| 03:34.38 | Ancu | 22:27:45) Jerub: i don't think people realise exactly how bad google is at spam filtering. |
| 03:34.38 | Ancu | Google has a spam filter? |
| 03:35.34 | kd3 | sure. it's catching nearly all of the spam in my honeypot email addresses |
| 03:36.58 | Ancu | see, I just let thunderbird filter my stuff. Once I tell it somethings spam, i never have to worry about it again |
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| 03:54.14 | Dagmar | Google's spam filter is unfortunately for you guys one of the best around. |
| 03:54.33 | Dagmar | I see maybe two spams get past it a month |
| 03:54.58 | kd3 | ^ |
| 03:55.39 | ScytheBlade1 | You know, if they open sourced their spam filter, people would be happy, and spammers would not |
| 03:55.42 | Jerub | Dagmar: I see lots get past their filters that standard techniques will block. |
| 03:55.55 | Jerub | uh, for reference, I work in anti-spam. |
| 03:55.57 | Dagmar | You're getting some weird spaam then |
| 03:56.02 | ScytheBlade1 | then again, I'd also like to run my own copy of google reader, calendar |
| 03:57.06 | Dagmar | Thanks to nabble my email address is all over the damn 'net, and it's missed none of the 415 spams I've gotten in the last 30 days. |
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| 04:39.33 | Thunder_Child | rages |
| 04:39.41 | Jerub | Thunder_Child: hm? |
| 04:39.55 | Thunder_Child | i had my current OS all of 5 days before i had to reinstall |
| 04:40.00 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* |
| 04:40.06 | Thunder_Child | i break OS's more than anyone i know |
| 04:40.06 | Jerub | Thunder_Child: windows 7? |
| 04:40.11 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 04:40.12 | Ancu | why now TC? |
| 04:40.15 | Jerub | Thunder_Child: don't feel bad. |
| 04:40.25 | Jerub | Thunder_Child: I have 3 people who are breaking windows 7 /right now/ |
| 04:40.26 | Thunder_Child | i have no idea Ancu |
| 04:40.43 | Thunder_Child | Jerub: 5 days after they reinstalled from scratch? |
| 04:40.46 | Jerub | they're using snapshotted vms with it already logged in, because of the time wasted waiting for the login to occur in windows 7. |
| 04:40.56 | Jerub | Thunder_Child: noo.. usually 20 minutes to an hour. |
| 04:41.11 | Thunder_Child | i have decided to run all my stuff on VM's now |
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| 05:06.05 | kd3 | cd .h |
| 05:06.27 | kd3 | hm |
| 05:06.41 | Dagmar | Odd. Did they take main tank frames out or something? |
| 05:06.56 | Ancu | yes? |
| 05:07.52 | Dagmar | Drek. That was useful |
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| 05:09.03 | Jerub | I've heard that there are those in blizzard that think that wow can be played without addons. |
| 05:09.18 | ZorbaTHut | well, I mean, technically, yes |
| 05:09.23 | ZorbaTHut | you can play it without a keyboard too |
| 05:09.26 | ZorbaTHut | doesn't mean you should |
| 05:09.28 | Dagmar | Yeah they should try keeping track of who the main tanks are in a 25-man sometime |
| 05:09.46 | Ancu | 0_0 BLASPHEMERS |
| 05:10.03 | ZorbaTHut | I'm really curious how many of the blizzard UI designers actually do serious raiding |
| 05:10.53 | Ancu | Well, with the new objectives on the map, and the threat meater in game....all they need now is recount, rating buster, and tomtom built in |
| 05:11.17 | Dagmar | Here I was thinking Pitbull4 was bugged |
| 05:12.50 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: Yeah, it's a bit like that. They probably go into icc25 in full icc25h gear and wipe a few times on marrowgar, have a laugh, and then drink more gin. |
| 05:14.21 | ZorbaTHut | no, I think you've got it slightly wrong |
| 05:14.27 | ZorbaTHut | they go in, wipe once or twice, and then kill him |
| 05:14.30 | ZorbaTHut | "lol, raiding's easy" |
| 05:14.40 | Jerub | k, probably ;) |
| 05:14.45 | ZorbaTHut | "I didn't need any addons, I don't know why anyone bothers with this stuff" |
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| 05:16.08 | Ancu | I think Imade 15 levels without addons....a long time ago |
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| 05:17.46 | Jerub | aucitoneer floored a new wow player friend of mine, who had been meticulously gathering and then vendoring herbs up ot level 20. |
| 05:19.25 | Ancu | 0_0 vendoring.....herbs....#*&% MY HERBS MOFO! YOU SELL THEM TO ME! GIVE ME THAT WEED XD |
| 05:21.38 | Jerub | yeah, but this is the sort of thing that isn't properly discoverable to a newbie, and simply won't be discovered until you talk to other wow players. |
| 05:22.01 | Jerub | there's no "sell these gatherables for a huge profit" quest chain. |
| 05:22.02 | Jerub | :P |
| 05:22.37 | Ancu | Should be.... |
| 05:22.56 | Ancu | maybe in cata XD |
| 05:23.05 | Jerub | or a "install omen3" hunter specific quest chain. |
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| 05:25.24 | Jerub | wooo brann will walk faster, and UP just became much less painful (3 'poons, 1 ritual of the sword) |
| 05:26.47 | Ancu | (00:22:59) Jerub: or a "install omen3" hunter specific quest chain. |
| 05:27.06 | Jerub | i guess locks should get that too. |
| 05:27.11 | Ancu | Where do I point my friends for that quest? That one took me some time to figure out too |
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| 05:27.29 | Jerub | uh, wow.curse.com ? |
| 05:28.26 | Ancu | No, they need a quest to teach them to macro life tap...so healers arn't jumping into end ofthe world mode when heal bot turns red |
| 05:28.57 | Jerub | Ancu: macro it so that it says, "I'm hitting lifetap now?" |
| 05:29.45 | Ancu | or something, yeah |
| 05:30.28 | Jerub | I want something that shows on grid when someone who's dead has a res being cast on them |
| 05:30.56 | Ancu | I took up healling a few weeks back, and it is quite frightning to think you have everything under controll, and then a block goes from green to yellow to red....I tend to get ready for party whipe untill I figure out whats going on |
| 05:31.10 | Jerub | what healing addons are you using? |
| 05:31.32 | Ancu | ummm, show cast bars for party basicaly |
| 05:31.48 | Jerub | sod parties. |
| 05:31.52 | Jerub | I'm talking about 25mans. |
| 05:31.54 | Ancu | Heal bot |
| 05:32.02 | Jerub | the res fest before the looting. |
| 05:32.10 | Jerub | I started on healbot. |
| 05:32.19 | Ancu | Decursive is usless if you have heal bot, as far as I can tell |
| 05:32.19 | Ancu | beyond that I dont know of any |
| 05:32.24 | Jerub | on recommendations here I moved to oUF_freebgrid and clique |
| 05:33.29 | Ancu | oh, still lvl 43.....raids are a ways away |
| 05:33.32 | Jerub | I found healbot screwed up on me enough times to make it a liability (maybe 2-3 times a week) |
| 05:33.36 | Jerub | ooooh, right. |
| 05:33.54 | Jerub | if you're not raiding, you can just use clique and no grid very easily. |
| 05:34.19 | Ancu | My hunter is a level 80 :) and I am happy with Heal Bot for now |
| 05:34.47 | Jerub | I don't love grid's display, but it's on par with healbot's. But Clique is much better than healbots ui. |
| 05:34.51 | Jerub | what class is your healer? |
| 05:35.06 | Ancu | pulls healbot close and growls at passer bys. |
| 05:35.25 | Ancu | I like healbots UI |
| 05:35.43 | Ancu | drood |
| 05:35.50 | Jerub | ah right. |
| 05:36.11 | Ancu | Drood resto....my char is anchu on malfurion |
| 05:36.39 | Jerub | you're probably not high enough level yet, but there's a bug with wild growth, click casting doesn't work when you've got a dead or out of range target. |
| 05:36.52 | Jerub | be aware that you'll have to get a macro to make that work reliably. :) |
| 05:36.54 | Dagmar | Tzanger: Hopefully you can beat the price point on a Hauppauge HD PVR and an HD Fury2 |
| 05:37.00 | Dagmar | *sigh* wrong chan |
| 05:37.18 | Jerub | my main is a bear/tree |
| 05:37.21 | Jerub | on dath'remar |
| 05:37.25 | Torhal | HealBot is less than dung. It's poop. |
| 05:37.40 | Jerub | Ancu: by 'ui' i meant its menu system, not the grid display. |
| 05:38.01 | Jerub | but it's the grid display that blew up on me sometimes and the reason i got rid of it. |
| 05:38.32 | Ancu | If I have problems with it I will search for alternitaves, it wouldnt be the first time |
| 05:38.45 | Jerub | yeah, I used healbot from like, level 40 to 80. |
| 05:38.57 | Jerub | and lots of BG and raids before i swapped to something else. |
| 05:39.07 | Jerub | TBH I hate my grid thing, it just isn't great. |
| 05:39.09 | Jerub | but it work. |
| 05:39.11 | Jerub | works |
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| 05:49.54 | Shirik | hahahahaha |
| 05:49.56 | Shirik | our IT is so bad |
| 05:50.08 | Shirik | just got an alert from them saying that all messages are being delivered to junk mail |
| 05:50.09 | Shirik | all |
| 05:50.22 | Shirik | and, on top of that, after the problem is fixed, we will have to manually move the junk mail to the main inbox |
| 05:50.23 | Ancu | whats so funny? |
| 05:50.26 | Shirik | well not-so-junk mail |
| 05:50.38 | Jerub | Shirik: I can sell you an antispam device that doesn't have the ability to screw up that badly... |
| 05:50.46 | Shirik | (1) how can you screw something like that up, and (2) force everyone to deal with it |
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| 06:06.13 | Shirik | It's been a while since you've used Online Bill Pay. Did you know that you can easily add new payees? And the more bills you add, the closer you can come to managing all your payments from a single site. |
| 06:06.17 | Shirik | wtf are they talking about I used it last week |
| 06:06.45 | Shirik | I only pay bills once a month o.o |
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| 06:38.26 | Kraps | AMG ME 2 IS TEH SEX |
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| 06:40.35 | Kraps | wut waz taht 4? |
| 06:40.46 | Shirik | <3 |
| 06:40.53 | Shirik | it's just your like the 500th person to say that today, lol |
| 06:40.58 | Shirik | you're |
| 06:40.58 | Shirik | omg |
| 06:41.01 | Shirik | I'm going to go die now |
| 06:42.43 | Kraps | hi kelly |
| 06:43.35 | Shirik | kelly? |
| 06:43.45 | Shirik | Kraps have you ever written a GA? |
| 06:44.27 | Shirik | I'm tempted to nominate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspect_weaver but I'm not sure if the inline citations are too weak. Problem is like three sentences are together per reference, so it looks weak, but it's right... |
| 06:44.41 | Kraps | Shirik: never written anything really, some minor edits and antivandal stuff |
| 06:45.56 | Kraps | night |
| 06:54.13 | TC-Away | Shirik: you dont have to force anyone to do it, you simply have to do nothing and the problem will take care of itself |
| 06:54.24 | Shirik | ? |
| 06:54.38 | TC-Away | "<Shirik> (1) how can you screw something like that up, and (2) force everyone to deal with it" #2 |
| 06:54.47 | Shirik | well... yeah... |
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| 07:17.14 | Shirik | I have reached a new low (or high) in geekdom |
| 07:17.16 | Shirik | http://images.gammatester.com/pics/077c8f77b9a90bfdef93ae03df4abccb.png |
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| 07:19.12 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: A) your chrome needs extensions B) you really should hide the bloody flag |
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| 07:19.37 | Thunder_Child | and you have 2 gmails open |
| 07:21.25 | Shirik | 2 gmail addresses :) |
| 07:21.38 | Shirik | and hide what flag? |
| 07:22.02 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: the pc issues on the bottom right |
| 07:22.08 | amro | Shirik: is that notepad? |
| 07:22.15 | Shirik | oh Thunder_Child |
| 07:22.24 | Shirik | amro: Yes, actually, I jot down random things on notepad. It's quite efficient |
| 07:22.28 | Shirik | windows-r notepad enter |
| 07:22.28 | Thunder_Child | Shirik: you can log into 2? it always kicks me out of one if i try to do that |
| 07:22.36 | Shirik | Thunder_Child: I've had no problems / |
| 07:22.37 | Shirik | :/ |
| 07:22.42 | Thunder_Child | figures |
| 07:22.52 | Shirik | amro: I have had 10 notepads and 10 calculators open once P |
| 07:23.07 | amro | heh |
| 07:23.08 | Thunder_Child | stop being proud of that |
| 07:23.16 | amro | I use basket or the notes plasmoud |
| 07:23.19 | amro | plasmoid* |
| 07:27.28 | Shirik | I know what it is Thunder_Child |
| 07:27.31 | Shirik | you use firefox don't you |
| 07:27.37 | Thunder_Child | no, i use chrome |
| 07:28.01 | Shirik | ok well then I don't know what you broke |
| 07:28.06 | Shirik | because it's definitely working for me |
| 07:28.31 | Thunder_Child | oh..you know, i did only ever try that on FF, and not on chrome |
| 07:28.39 | Thunder_Child | which i only started using latly |
| 07:28.43 | Thunder_Child | lately |
| 07:29.39 | Shirik | I knew it was because of a fail browser |
| 07:29.49 | Shirik | I am all-knowing |
| 07:31.29 | Shirik | I just thought of an interesting experiment |
| 07:31.39 | Shirik | Get a google voice number and release it everywhere you can think of |
| 07:31.50 | Shirik | later, come back and see how much random crap you get |
| 07:32.07 | amro | why? you don't get enough crap as it is? |
| 07:32.14 | Shirik | nope |
| 07:32.19 | Shirik | My phone is quite spam free, actually |
| 07:32.27 | amro | not necessarily on the phone |
| 07:33.48 | krka_ | i just had a mental image of getting all my email spam on my answering machine |
| 07:33.50 | krka_ | oh the pain |
| 07:34.01 | Arrowmaster | my phone is more wrong numbers than people actually trying to contact me |
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| 08:38.43 | Shirik | rofl @ new wave of spam |
| 08:38.46 | Shirik | (03:37:19) (Janison) Tip: To secretly receive OP, simply type /timer 0 0 /amsg !ops |
| 08:39.33 | olafski | ooh clever |
| 08:39.54 | olafski | -!- Irssi: Unknown command: timer |
| 08:39.55 | olafski | aw :( |
| 08:41.19 | Adys | http://xkcd.com/694/ |
| 08:41.51 | olafski | I don't get the howard dean reference |
| 08:42.19 | olafski | mostly since I have no clue what he has to do with this.. looked him up on wikipedia but I didn't see a reference to OS "wars" :( |
| 08:44.14 | jnwhiteh | its not |
| 08:44.17 | jnwhiteh | its a time difference |
| 08:44.20 | jnwhiteh | internet diff =) |
| 08:44.45 | jnwhiteh | howard dean was the first politician to (successfully, some would say) use internet social media to organize |
| 08:44.56 | jnwhiteh | hence the friendster reference |
| 08:47.03 | olafski | ah |
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| 13:03.49 | zenzio | http://punditkitchen.com/2009/11/02/political-pictures-death-powerpoint/ |
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| 13:41.22 | alestane | Shiibot doesn't appear to have rejoined us in that last split. |
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| 13:43.13 | alestane | Haipeppy. |
| 13:43.56 | Lopeppeppy | grumple |
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| 13:49.27 | alestane | I was going to ask if you were felling any better today...sounds like not significantly. |
| 13:50.44 | Lopeppeppy | Enough that I'm at work, not enough to be *enjoying* the fact. |
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| 14:12.29 | alestane | huggles Lopeppeppy, carefully around the shoulders. |
| 14:13.05 | Lopeppeppy | you're wicked smart |
| 14:13.25 | alestane | And I value my life. |
| 14:13.39 | Lopeppeppy | Enlightened self interest is not a bad thing. |
| 14:13.48 | Lopeppeppy | All the bosses are off to a retreat, I'm soooo happy. |
| 14:13.58 | krka_ | injured your shoulders? |
| 14:14.15 | Lopeppeppy | No, my soft middle is not feeling well. |
| 14:15.14 | krka_ | brain? |
| 14:15.39 | alestane | soft middle ~= chewy center. |
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| 14:35.48 | mikma_ | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/google_maps3.jpg |
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| 14:45.50 | Wobin | uh whut |
| 14:45.51 | Wobin | http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/01/fox-leads-for-trust.html |
| 14:46.47 | nevcairiel | if you needed any more proof about the US's average intelligence, there it is |
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| 14:55.07 | Adys | man |
| 14:55.12 | Adys | I love those gordok ogre suits |
| 14:59.49 | Zyn | >74% of Republicans trust Fox News |
| 14:59.58 | Zyn | makes a very serious face |
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| 15:01.33 | Bruners | p3lim: why is your ident a girls name |
| 15:02.00 | p3lim | Huh |
| 15:02.11 | mikma_ | cause he's a little bitch |
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| 15:02.44 | krka_ | because it's also the name of a communication application? |
| 15:02.52 | p3lim | What do you mean girlsname? |
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| 15:03.07 | p3lim | Miranda is an IM client |
| 15:03.08 | Adys | Bruners: because miranda is an IM client |
| 15:03.50 | nevcairiel | you shouldnt undermine attempts to troll p3lim! |
| 15:04.05 | Bruners | still doesnt answer the question why he doesnt have a proper ident |
| 15:04.18 | alestane | "A generation ago Walter Cronkite was the most trusted man in the country because of his neutrality. Now people trust Fox the most precisely because of its lack of neutrality." |
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| 15:12.07 | alestane | nevcairiel: I'm afraid it's not intelligence so much as a shift in values. |
| 15:12.16 | p3lim | Bruners: its because I can't change the ident in Miranda |
| 15:12.28 | nevcairiel | alestane: but fox news? you have to be pretty dumb to believe that |
| 15:12.31 | p3lim | And I don't use IRC enough to actually bother with a proper client |
| 15:12.56 | alestane | They're not watching it for facts, they're watching it because it supports their identities. |
| 15:13.42 | alestane | They've established what they want to believe and feel, and FOX News reinforces those things. |
| 15:14.15 | alestane | I do find it sad that they value reinforcement over journalism. |
| 15:14.17 | nevcairiel | I still doubt that someone that is intelligent enough would end up believing in that, short of some nutjobs |
| 15:14.19 | Lopeppeppy | They are consistent in their leanings, it's like...watching Rush Limbaugh. You watch him because you already know his opinion. |
| 15:17.20 | alestane | There are millions of otherwise intelligent people in the world who will flock to anything that doesn't challenge them to reevaluate their thinking. |
| 15:17.53 | Lopeppeppy | It's wonderful to be around people who are JUST LIKE ME!!! |
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| 15:19.01 | Wobin | is just like Peppy |
| 15:19.04 | Wobin | Except not. |
| 15:20.32 | alestane | On a completely different note, does anyone know what option I have to feed gcc to stop getting "passing argument 1 of 'reallocf' discards qualifiers from pointer target type" warnings? |
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| 15:34.59 | nevcairiel | -Wno-cast-qual i think |
| 15:37.18 | theorbtwo | Instead of doing that, though, cast it to (void*) before you pass it to reallocf? |
| 15:38.14 | alestane | I always thought that was what the void* type was for, that it would accept any address regardless of type, but hey. |
| 15:39.48 | nevcairiel | it still warns you that the type information is lost in the process |
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| 15:47.14 | zenzelezz | someone enlighten me... is "Halo 3 ODST" the same as Halo 3? Or is it an expansion or something? |
| 15:47.34 | theorbtwo | I would have thought it was the sound track. |
| 15:47.40 | theorbtwo | I'm probably wrong. |
| 15:47.51 | zenzelezz | hehe, you are, but I see the logic |
| 15:47.55 | Stanzilla | nah it's a different storyline, so a complete game |
| 15:48.16 | zenzelezz | bah... friend wants to play Halo 3 with me, but all I can find in stores is ODST |
| 15:48.31 | Ackis | halo odst is so last quarter, it's all about halo reach now |
| 15:50.56 | Fisker | Ackis |
| 15:50.57 | Fisker | do die |
| 15:51.43 | Ackis | why? |
| 15:53.29 | Fisker | do it |
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| 16:01.03 | nicoli_s | zenzelezz: odst is like a more stealthy side story expansion type thing to halo 3 |
| 16:01.31 | nicoli_s | im pretty sure you can still play mp with halo 3 users with it though |
| 16:01.41 | zenzelezz | hm |
| 16:02.15 | Fisker | nicoli_s |
| 16:02.16 | Fisker | sc2 beta |
| 16:03.07 | nicoli_s | whar? |
| 16:03.54 | alestane | I suspect he's demanding one, not offering one. |
| 16:05.02 | nicoli_s | well he usually has alot more info on this shit than me |
| 16:05.08 | Wobin | woah http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWxcVyBRecE |
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| 16:09.07 | Fisker | has to be within in the next few days nicoli_s :( |
| 16:11.03 | nicoli_s | ive heard that before |
| 16:11.07 | nicoli_s | from you, many times in fact |
| 16:11.28 | Fisker | but it has to be soon |
| 16:11.46 | nicoli_s | but it had to be soon 5 months ago too |
| 16:11.54 | Kraps | key word id Soon (tm) |
| 16:12.00 | alestane | Fisker: This is Blizzard, there is no "has to". |
| 16:12.21 | Fisker | naw alestane |
| 16:12.23 | Fisker | but it's like |
| 16:12.46 | Fisker | on friday Jace Hall will show some Blizzard stuff where there's a quick glimpse of "welcome to the starcraft 2 beta"(ZOMG) |
| 16:12.54 | Fisker | and conference shit in a few weeks |
| 16:14.18 | Kraps | question: D3 and SC2 are in development so long, wont the game engine/graphics be kind of outdated compared to recent RTS's/RPG's? |
| 16:14.41 | nevcairiel | every game is like that |
| 16:15.05 | alestane | Doon't SC and D2 already look outdated? People still play them. |
| 16:15.06 | nevcairiel | you design a engine that would barely be able to run on a high-end pc right now |
| 16:15.17 | Ackis | Kraps: I saw a website compare D3 to Duke Nukem Forever |
| 16:15.20 | nevcairiel | and when its out, it runs on mainstream hardware |
| 16:16.01 | Fisker | give me a TV then nevcairiel |
| 16:16.02 | Fisker | nao |
| 16:16.03 | Kraps | Ackis: i read the wired article on DNF and thats what came to mind :( |
| 16:16.48 | Fisker | DNF looked pretty good |
| 16:17.32 | Kraps | but it was never good enough for the boss |
| 16:17.43 | Kraps | hence the epic 12 year fail |
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| 16:56.29 | zenzelezz | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/01/26/funny-pictures-video-kitteh-noms-melon/ om nom nom |
| 17:03.10 | durcyn | did you see the spoof video about today's apple announcement, where steve jobs comes out and proclaims they have what everyone's been waiting for... duke nukem forever |
| 17:03.17 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 17:03.25 | Lopeppeppy | Woot. |
| 17:03.27 | Lopeppeppy | Do want. |
| 17:03.28 | nicoli_s | ive got all my money that he says jesus is back |
| 17:03.39 | nicoli_s | money on* |
| 17:03.47 | durcyn | lies, you don't have any money |
| 17:04.35 | Lopeppeppy | Besides, everyone knows you don't put all your money on one color on roulette |
| 17:04.35 | nicoli_s | not true, i got my taxes back today :) |
| 17:04.55 | nicoli_s | Lopeppeppy: i see signs all the time jesus is about to come back, its just finally time to put the money down for it |
| 17:04.58 | Fisker | do want indeed durcyn |
| 17:05.02 | Fisker | apple sucks though |
| 17:05.08 | Fisker | if apple developed DNF i wouldn't get it |
| 17:05.38 | nicoli_s | apple isnt that bad |
| 17:05.45 | Fisker | they are |
| 17:05.48 | nicoli_s | im listening to a itouch right now :) |
| 17:06.01 | Fisker | what is that? |
| 17:06.13 | Kraps | durcyn: what about the spoof where he announces the apple eye, never says what it does but just talks about its looks? |
| 17:06.30 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 17:06.40 | nicoli_s | i love that one onion video about the sony piece of shit |
| 17:07.35 | Kraps | half of his announcements are really about the way new products look |
| 17:08.09 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx7v815bYUw |
| 17:08.22 | Kraps | but its ok because their designs rock |
| 17:08.28 | Fisker | does not. |
| 17:08.45 | Fisker | iphone is a bar of soap with a display attached |
| 17:09.06 | Kraps | bitter much? |
| 17:09.09 | Fisker | nope |
| 17:09.19 | durcyn | his nexus one trackball already broke |
| 17:09.24 | Fisker | if i liked it i would've bought it |
| 17:10.04 | nevcairiel | I wouldnt buy a iPhone because of their crappy contract bindings, i want the provider i choose, not the provider that has the iphone |
| 17:10.17 | nevcairiel | plus i don't like apples philosophy |
| 17:10.31 | durcyn | you can buy them unsubsidized, your argument is moot |
| 17:10.35 | Fisker | Luckily both design, functionality and how much i love apple reach about the same level for me |
| 17:11.11 | Kraps | nevcairiel: i dont get that, blackberry has only sprint, whats the big deal? |
| 17:11.25 | Fisker | nevcairiel has a blackberry? |
| 17:11.45 | Kraps | many phones are exclusive to carriers |
| 17:11.46 | durcyn | um, lots of US carriers service blackberries, try again |
| 17:12.11 | Fisker | Kraps he talked about crappy contract bindings |
| 17:12.29 | nevcairiel | durcyn: i can't get a unlocked version here, fwiw |
| 17:12.41 | nevcairiel | i would have to use some shaddy dealer, or somehow import it from another country |
| 17:12.51 | Fisker | i could get a LED Flatscreen TV for the same price as an iphone here, or use one of the crappy contracts that probably exceed the costs |
| 17:13.07 | Kraps | then the only solution is: hacking |
| 17:13.08 | nevcairiel | plus, the damn iPhone is just f'ing expensive in its unlocked form |
| 17:13.25 | nevcairiel | like, 800 ⬠for the 3GS? |
| 17:13.31 | nevcairiel | my phone costs 400 |
| 17:13.36 | nevcairiel | and it does the same, if not more |
| 17:14.04 | Kraps | nevcairiel: whatcha got? |
| 17:14.11 | nevcairiel | a droid |
| 17:14.21 | nevcairiel | or milestone for europe :d |
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| 17:16.09 | nevcairiel | and yeah, for that 800 i can nearly ge the plasma tv i've been looking at =P |
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| 17:18.38 | Fisker | i'm thinking of getting a 32" LED TV :o |
| 17:19.03 | nevcairiel | 50 here |
| 17:19.03 | nevcairiel | :D |
| 17:19.06 | nevcairiel | but plasma |
| 17:19.13 | Fisker | don't need a 50" :P |
| 17:19.39 | nevcairiel | i don't either, yet! but once i move into the new place, a big tv will be nice |
| 17:19.41 | nicoli_s | ive got like a 36, its perfect in size for me |
| 17:19.50 | Maldivia | hate Samsung for calling their TVs LED TV, since its just the backlight that's different |
| 17:20.00 | nicoli_s | i cant wait to move into a bigger place, going to check it out today! |
| 17:20.11 | Fisker | Maldivia that's how it is for everyone |
| 17:20.27 | Fisker | an actual TV made out of LED's at this size is proposterous :P |
| 17:20.40 | nevcairiel | i'm looking at a 50" samsung plasma, it doesnt try to fool you =P |
| 17:20.55 | Fisker | you'd need 6220800 LED's :P |
| 17:21.13 | nevcairiel | amazon at least is smart and only says "LED Backlight" |
| 17:21.21 | Kraps | HD 1080i |
| 17:21.32 | nevcairiel | ew, i |
| 17:21.51 | Fisker | Well until they can actually make LED TV's (at which point we'll probably be using something better) i don't mind they call it LED TV |
| 17:21.52 | Kraps | has no idea what he just said :) |
| 17:22.10 | Fisker | especially not since i can search for "LED TV" and get the results i want rather than "LCD TV with LED backlighting" |
| 17:22.12 | Maldivia | well, theres OLED TV? |
| 17:22.21 | nevcairiel | whats it then, lcd with led backlight? or plasma? |
| 17:22.29 | Fisker | not in this size, and OLED is vastly different from LED |
| 17:22.50 | nevcairiel | yeah i dont think they can produce OLEDs in that size yet |
| 17:23.03 | Maldivia | haven't they reached mid 20s? |
| 17:23.03 | nevcairiel | at any acceptable price, anyway |
| 17:23.13 | Fisker | OLED's are going to be the next revolution in tv's i think though |
| 17:23.25 | nevcairiel | OLEDs are awesome for their high density |
| 17:23.30 | Kraps | wtb holographic tv |
| 17:23.36 | Fisker | When they can ramp up production they can make ridiculously big tv's at small prices |
| 17:23.45 | Fisker | and OLED > Plasma/LCD |
| 17:24.10 | nevcairiel | the resolution this small phone display using OLED can display is insane |
| 17:24.27 | nevcairiel | but then, tvs dont go for high resolution anyway |
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| 17:24.55 | Maldivia | wasn't there some japanese study, that showed that people started throwing up with too high resolutions? |
| 17:25.24 | durcyn | i thought it was the 120hz refresh rates moreso than the resolutions |
| 17:25.34 | Kraps | what does Sheppard see when using the holograph to talk to the illusive man? |
| 17:25.43 | nevcairiel | i dunno, but tvs arent going above 1920x1080 any time soon |
| 17:25.43 | Lunessa | I thought that was the flicker/siezure relationship? (oh, hi there. Station. Whtaever.) |
| 17:25.43 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa. |
| 17:25.51 | durcyn | Kraps: porn |
| 17:26.04 | Fisker | Kraps what bothers me is how a "quantum bit" can store a holographic image of that quality |
| 17:26.11 | Maldivia | but LCD TVs are advertising 400Hz now... which is kind of pointless when you have source that has 25hz :) |
| 17:26.18 | Fisker | presumably a bit is still a bit in the future? |
| 17:26.32 | Kraps | Fisker: seemed pretty crappy to me |
| 17:26.35 | nevcairiel | well the high refresh is needed to compensate for the interlaced input |
| 17:26.35 | durcyn | did you notice where they stole that from, fisker |
| 17:26.36 | Lunessa | Also - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ50PYMXDCQ |
| 17:26.40 | Kraps | the flickering |
| 17:26.42 | nevcairiel | but 400 might be over the top |
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| 17:26.58 | Fisker | naw durcyn but isn't there something like that in real life? |
| 17:27.02 | Fisker | quark particles or something like that |
| 17:27.06 | durcyn | someone at bioware must've re-read ender's game recently, that quantum attenuation communication is straight from the book |
| 17:27.20 | durcyn | Card called them what, Ansibles? |
| 17:27.21 | cog|work | hai |
| 17:27.26 | Fisker | btw cog|work |
| 17:27.30 | Fisker | i saw you on failbooking |
| 17:27.31 | cog|work | btw Fisker |
| 17:27.45 | durcyn | and who's to say what kind of bandwidth you could push through that, video is conceivable with a high enough bit rate |
| 17:28.17 | Fisker | Well if it's anything like a quark it's basically a bit at a time? |
| 17:28.27 | Fisker | well of course you can talk about how quickly you can manipulate it |
| 17:28.33 | Fisker | didn't think about that |
| 17:28.38 | Maldivia | nevcairiel: still, don't really see the point in a higher refresh rate than the source framerate - they're just refreshing the same image 16 times ? (400Hz with a 25Hz source) |
| 17:28.44 | durcyn | or there could be multiple particles |
| 17:28.49 | Fisker | naw |
| 17:28.54 | Fisker | They said there was only one |
| 17:28.56 | durcyn | there could be multiple fiskers |
| 17:29.07 | Lopeppeppy | Fiskars are scissors |
| 17:29.17 | Fisker | But if they can manipulate it 1000 times a msec you're getting somewhere |
| 17:29.43 | Kraps | there was a spoon but its not here anymore |
| 17:29.52 | Kraps | sry |
| 17:29.59 | Shirik | hm |
| 17:30.07 | nevcairiel | Maldivia: they produce interemediate images to compensate for the interlacing and produce smooth movement, but i can only see a use up to maybe 100hz |
| 17:30.07 | Shirik | I just came across one of my own papers while trying to do research for a paper I'm writing |
| 17:30.12 | Shirik | am I allowed to cite myself? >.> |
| 17:30.25 | nevcairiel | but maybe there is a reason to even increase that |
| 17:30.55 | Kraps | Shirik: COI |
| 17:31.03 | Shirik | :P |
| 17:31.14 | Fisker | just cite google |
| 17:31.14 | Kraps | also NOTE |
| 17:31.19 | Kraps | :P |
| 17:31.25 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, yes you are, if your older research is valid. :) Profs. do it all the time. |
| 17:32.47 | Lopeppeppy | Might be better to pull the bibliography of that paper and use sources from it, though. Hubris and all. |
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| 17:34.08 | Kraps | what prof did Shirik level? |
| 17:34.22 | Lopeppeppy | spelunking |
| 17:34.53 | Lopeppeppy | *sigh* Grand boss is back, no more musics |
| 17:35.15 | Kraps | spelunking heh, batman |
| 17:35.16 | Fisker | listens to some music |
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| 17:36.56 | Shirik | ~lart Kraps |
| 17:36.56 | purl | pours gasoline all over Kraps, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze |
| 17:37.27 | Lunessa | This channel causes me to have stange tabs open in firefox. |
| 17:37.28 | Kraps | ~whaleparry Shirik |
| 17:37.29 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry Shirik's attacks. |
| 17:38.12 | Kraps | i'm a tank. i parry. |
| 17:38.51 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/356124058/ |
| 17:41.28 | Lopeppeppy | What tabs have we given you today, Lunessa? |
| 17:42.27 | Lunessa | Nothing yet. But yesterday's were financial aid to haiti research, video of dolphins, and a slew of API references. |
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| 18:02.34 | batrick | Kraps: it's easier to just challenge shirik to a game of chess |
| 18:02.43 | batrick | he'll claim he's suddenly busy and flee |
| 18:02.53 | batrick | Batbot amirite? |
| 18:02.54 | batbot | batrick, Without a doubt. |
| 18:02.57 | batrick | ^ |
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| 18:03.12 | Kraps | i would do the same tbh |
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| 18:04.06 | Kraps | btw, the official forum have been down all morning, whats up? |
| 18:05.07 | Fisker | starcraft 2 beta |
| 18:05.41 | Lopeppeppy | And remember the time zone difference where "all morning" is concerned, it's "all night" for them. :) |
| 18:07.42 | Shirik | you |
| 18:07.44 | Shirik | took me all night long |
| 18:07.49 | Lopeppeppy | *snark* |
| 18:08.04 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, are those lyrics wrong deliberately? 'cause they're better your way. |
| 18:08.12 | Fisker | Lopeppeppy |
| 18:08.15 | Shirik | can I say yes anyway? |
| 18:08.36 | Lopeppeppy | :) |
| 18:08.42 | batrick | hey shirik |
| 18:08.44 | batrick | chess?! |
| 18:08.57 | Shirik | hey batrick |
| 18:09.00 | batrick | sup |
| 18:09.04 | Shirik | you said chess so I'm supposed to claim I'm suddenly busy and flee |
| 18:09.09 | batrick | ok bye |
| 18:10.56 | Lunessa | ... looking for apple announcements... it's been 10 mins... ! |
| 18:11.34 | zenzelezz | Apple didn't *have* DNF, they're *pulling* a DNF. Announcement will arrive in July |
| 18:13.20 | Lopeppeppy | Sweet. |
| 18:13.37 | zenzelezz | "The NY Observer reports that three months into the experiment only 35 people have signed up to pay $5 a week to get unfettered access to newsday.com. Newsday's web site redesign and relaunch reportedly cost about $4 million and the 35 people who've signed up have earned Newsday about $9,000." |
| 18:14.09 | nevcairiel | $4 million for a website? |
| 18:14.10 | nevcairiel | wtf |
| 18:14.36 | zenzelezz | I realise times are hard for the news media, but if you're asking people to pay for your services, you'd better have something special that makes it worth it; even if it is only $20 a month |
| 18:15.28 | Ackis | http://panopticlick.eff.org/ lets you see if people can track you w/o cookies or IP address lol |
| 18:15.34 | Ackis | zenzelezz: old news is old :P |
| 18:15.44 | zenzelezz | Ackis: of course it's old, I get my news from Slashdot |
| 18:17.10 | nevcairiel | Ackis: my browser appears to be unique, but fun fact.. due to the nightly firefox builds i use, my fingerprint changes daily :D |
| 18:17.41 | Ackis | nevcairiel: it's a study the eff is doing to see what's going on |
| 18:18.39 | Fisker | wtf zenzelezz |
| 18:18.47 | Fisker | how can you pay $4 million for a website? |
| 18:19.29 | Ackis | so I work with risk analysis all the time, and everytime I have to type "analysis" I giggle. :( |
| 18:20.03 | zenzelezz | what about Google Analytics? |
| 18:20.17 | Fisker | you should've run risk analytics for that website |
| 18:20.36 | Ackis | my anal funny bone is overloading because of you guys |
| 18:21.59 | Ackis | iPad |
| 18:21.59 | Ackis | lol |
| 18:22.05 | zenzelezz | sounds like Ackis is the guy who sits around in the weekend starting the "ANAL [...]" spam on trade |
| 18:22.15 | Ackis | apple is getting into feminine hygiene products |
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| 18:22.38 | Ackis | zenzelezz: I don't play wow, how can I start stuff like that in trade chat? |
| 18:22.52 | zenzelezz | poor excuse |
| 18:23.57 | Ackis | what I used to do it log into esMX and link shit in that locale to people |
| 18:24.00 | Ackis | fucked em up good |
| 18:24.09 | Ackis | then I'd say "chuck norris" and log out! |
| 18:24.50 | zenzelezz | ... so they all thought that they were being spammed by some mexican who got killed by Chuck Norris o_O |
| 18:25.02 | Fisker | noone gives a shit Ackis |
| 18:25.08 | Ackis | Fisker: zenzelezz does |
| 18:25.19 | Fisker | about the ipad Ackis |
| 18:25.41 | Ackis | oh |
| 18:25.48 | Ackis | apple fanbois do |
| 18:25.58 | zenzelezz | I actually do care... it might matter for my job |
| 18:26.21 | Fisker | well you're an apple fanboi anyway |
| 18:26.34 | Ackis | Fisker: I am? |
| 18:26.48 | zenzelezz | hardly. I may be the iPhone coder at my job, but I'm the only one of us who doesn't have an iPhone :-p |
| 18:26.49 | Lunessa | The iPad... Looks cool. I'd like to see one in person to see what it's really like. |
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| 18:27.29 | Thunder_Child | i think apple messed up with their tablet |
| 18:27.48 | zenzelezz | I'll wait until the details are sorted out before I make up my mind about it |
| 18:27.50 | Fisker | it'll be useless |
| 18:27.58 | Fisker | people will go "oh neat" |
| 18:28.13 | Fisker | but then they find out it offers absolutely nothing that other netbooks do, so screw it |
| 18:28.21 | Fisker | though it is apple after all |
| 18:28.44 | Thunder_Child | the great pull of the iphone/touch was it's compactness, i dont think the same setup (which the ipad is) is going to work on a larger scale |
| 18:29.24 | Fisker | yep |
| 18:29.31 | Fisker | Just looks like an iphone with a bigger screen |
| 18:29.45 | Fisker | and the iphone itself is fail already |
| 18:30.07 | Thunder_Child | i have a touch and it's rather nice |
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| 18:31.00 | Thunder_Child | but honestly i think convertables are the way to go |
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| 18:32.31 | zenzelezz | convertable? |
| 18:33.06 | Thunder_Child | assuming i spelled it correctly, yes |
| 18:34.33 | Lopeppeppy | convertible |
| 18:35.00 | zenzelezz | it still doesn't tell me anything... sounds like a car |
| 18:35.43 | Thunder_Child | zenzelezz: http://goo.gl/5QqM |
| 18:36.10 | zenzelezz | aj |
| 18:36.12 | zenzelezz | *ah |
| 18:37.33 | Ackis | aj*ah = aajh |
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| 18:45.35 | Shirik2 | anyone ever set up a VPN with Windows Server 2008 R2? |
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| 18:46.17 | Lopeppeppy | You ask the oddest damn questions, Shirik2. I think you're a broken clone! |
| 18:47.00 | Lopeppeppy | http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/01/apple-creation-0071-rm-eng.jpg |
| 18:48.17 | Shirik2 | Lopeppeppy thinks I'm broken :( |
| 18:50.57 | Shirik2 | I love our car |
| 18:51.07 | Shirik2 | We've finalized how we're going to do the transmission |
| 18:51.14 | Shirik2 | We now have 6 gears. Most people would call them 1 through 6 |
| 18:52.06 | Shirik2 | Instead, our controls team has decided to call them "1", "1 2", "2", "2 2", "3", and "4" |
| 18:52.44 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 18:52.56 | Shirik2 | I think the best part is "2" and "3" apparently don't even exist, they're just "transitional gears" |
| 18:53.07 | Shirik2 | wtf that means I don't know |
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| 18:53.39 | Ackis | is it "2" and "3" that don't exist or "1 2" and "2 2" that don't exist? |
| 18:53.40 | Shirik2 | oh wow "1" doesn't exist either "# Gear One : This gear will not be used for general operation, instead the car will use it as a transition to "1 2" |
| 18:53.49 | Shirik2 | no it's "2" and "3" and apparently "1" also |
| 18:53.56 | Ackis | lol |
| 18:53.57 | Shirik2 | Wtf "1" is transitioning from I have no idea |
| 18:54.06 | Shirik2 | off? |
| 18:54.35 | Shirik2 | but here, if you really want to blow your mind, here's the description of "1 2" |
| 18:54.45 | Shirik2 | "Using the variable gear system in the transmission a functionally infinite set of gear ratios can be created, this gear set is to be used for driving below 40 miles per hour." |
| 18:54.56 | Shirik2 | "1 2" actually comprises an infinite number of gears (and sadly, this is the one part I understand) |
| 18:55.45 | nicoli_s | what are you making |
| 18:56.01 | Shirik2 | a hybrid car (Saturn Vue) |
| 18:56.14 | kdtresh | if it supports infinite ratios, why can't it go above 40? |
| 18:56.22 | Ackis | "In a philosophical sense it can even be said that the risk does not have a real existence in the present, but it only exists in the future." <-- I feel like I'm reading some shit from Plato |
| 18:56.31 | Shirik2 | the part I"m working on is it will have AI in it to tune the control strategy and predict upcoming conditions |
| 18:56.49 | Shirik2 | kdtresh: I think it has to do with the components it's using; it's my understanding some of the electric motors can't run too fast |
| 18:57.31 | Ackis | Shirik2: add code in there to be like "if driver == Fisker then blowup" |
| 18:57.32 | Lopeppeppy | and use gear ratios differently. I had someone explain hybrid transmissions to me once, and I understood it then, but not to explain it back to someone. |
| 18:57.42 | Lopeppeppy | They just don't work the same way. *serious Peppy nod* |
| 18:58.19 | Shirik2 | the problem is for a traditional engine you'd just say "just pull up the gear ratio and the engine won't have to go as fast" but electric motors also use regeneration, so you can't do that or you get no charge |
| 18:58.25 | kdtresh | i'm certainly nowhere near enough functional knowledge of the subject to argue, i was just curious |
| 18:58.51 | Shirik2 | I mean, I"m in your position too, I don't know too many details about this |
| 18:58.57 | Shirik2 | I know what I need to know to get my part done |
| 18:59.02 | Shirik2 | not this mechanical crap |
| 19:00.03 | kdtresh | my dad's got a prius, that's about as close as i get to knowledge of hybrid vehicles, lol |
| 19:01.29 | nicoli_s | wow, the season 8 armor doesnt look too goofy |
| 19:05.03 | Kraps | wow.com has a great elemental 101 post, i'm really excited about my shammy :D |
| 19:06.14 | Dewin | So... my raiding guild has a topic on our forums about trying to get a comprehensive list of defensive cooldowns for all classes, etc. |
| 19:06.25 | Dewin | We put "Levitate" on the list because "Avoids death when Lux/Bromonn is in party with a DK and we are falling into water - instant" |
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| 19:07.31 | Kraps | idk why people insist that early ele leveling is just spamming LB, that is so not true |
| 19:08.33 | Thunder_Child | then you're just doing it wrong Kraps |
| 19:08.50 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: NO |
| 19:08.58 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: yes |
| 19:09.01 | tem | BEHOLD, WONDROUS RAPIDITY |
| 19:09.19 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: srsly |
| 19:09.25 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: yes |
| 19:09.39 | Kraps | thats not how i play |
| 19:10.43 | Kraps | but maybe boa items helps with that |
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| 19:14.43 | Adys | guys i just had the greatest idea in the world |
| 19:14.51 | durcyn | you're going to kill yourself? |
| 19:15.04 | NeoTron | has to be said: " Watching the announcement live I was struck with just how absorbent the crowd was regarding iPad presentation. It's like this product has wings. I wonder how well the iPad will handle those heavy work flow days." |
| 19:15.13 | Adys | the IIS guys should make it so people have to use backslashes instead of forward slashes in urls! |
| 19:15.31 | Kraps | why? |
| 19:15.51 | Adys | because it would show how awesome whoever had this idea in windows was |
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| 19:16.11 | Kraps | umm... ok? |
| 19:16.12 | alestane | Because obviously we have to take platform incompatibility to a whole new level? |
| 19:16.19 | Adys | EXACTLY alestane |
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| 19:16.39 | Adys | <a href="\\\\static\\images\\index.html"> |
| 19:16.44 | Adys | its awesome you know it. |
| 19:16.52 | Kraps | omg is that real? |
| 19:17.21 | Adys | its not |
| 19:17.28 | Adys | <a href="\\\\static\\images\\index.asp"> is, however |
| 19:17.53 | alestane | OS X seems to regard the URL as the natural form of path transfer...that's how you open a file for most applications. Then it has utilities to convert other forms of path such as POSIX into URLs and back. |
| 19:20.18 | ZorbaTHut | altoholic's formatting for mail message count doesn't work well when you have over 7,000 mails waiting for a character |
| 19:21.36 | Kraps | ... why do you have over 7k mails? |
| 19:21.57 | ZorbaTHut | bulk disenchanting. I buy stuff in huge quantity at the AH, then mail them to my disenchanter character |
| 19:22.05 | ZorbaTHut | only I'm lazy so often I let it stack up for a week or two or three before bothering |
| 19:22.57 | Kraps | what do you need mats for, selling? |
| 19:23.22 | ZorbaTHut | yup |
| 19:23.22 | ZorbaTHut | buy cheap greens and blues, disenchant, sell mats :) |
| 19:23.44 | Kraps | high level i'm guessing |
| 19:23.54 | ZorbaTHut | you'd be surprised, actually |
| 19:24.13 | ZorbaTHut | the highlevel stuff has a lot of competition, especially thanks to the new disenchant-in-dungeon options |
| 19:24.25 | Kraps | right |
| 19:24.58 | Ackis | if i was on your server ZorbaTHut i'd send you a mail a day saying I <3 u |
| 19:25.02 | ZorbaTHut | it's really the midlevel stuff that I make the bulk of my money from. ilvl30-60 mats, largely |
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| 19:25.28 | ZorbaTHut | ackis, I get a lot of those, as well as a few hatred and a few omg-i-keep-ripping-you-off messages |
| 19:25.45 | ZorbaTHut | "ha ha those belts aren't worth anything, and yet you keep buying them! LOLZ! nobody would ever equip them, they're itemized terribly!" |
| 19:25.46 | Ackis | ripping you off? |
| 19:25.54 | Ackis | oh lol |
| 19:25.57 | Kraps | leveling enchanting sucked so bad but i love having it |
| 19:26.04 | Ackis | i've never had a hate mail message about my mods |
| 19:26.19 | ZorbaTHut | as well as a few "you keep putting up mats for super-cheap, keep doing it! I'm making a lot of money off you!" messages |
| 19:26.35 | ZorbaTHut | except that when I check it turns out they've bought like six stacks out of ~300 on the AH, so they're certainly not relisting |
| 19:26.53 | ZorbaTHut | so I mean yeah sure whatever, I make money, you make money, everyone is happy |
| 19:26.59 | nevcairiel | probably selling the enchants |
| 19:27.04 | ZorbaTHut | probably |
| 19:27.06 | ZorbaTHut | I'm A-OK with that |
| 19:27.12 | ZorbaTHut | that is how an economy works. |
| 19:27.54 | Kraps | i wont enchant non 80s unless they are standing right next to me |
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| 19:28.33 | Kraps | not going to SW to enchant your level 12 sorry |
| 19:28.35 | ZorbaTHut | I won't enchant anyone, I'm too lazy |
| 19:29.43 | Kraps | eh, it pays the bills |
| 19:30.13 | ZorbaTHut | I've got my disenchanting process automated to the point where I use a trackball hooked up to my laptop as a foot pedal for the only time-consuming part of it |
| 19:30.22 | ZorbaTHut | it's near-zero-effort. quite nice :D |
| 19:30.34 | Ackis | botter |
| 19:30.40 | ZorbaTHut | hardware input event baby |
| 19:31.36 | Kraps | ZorbaTHut: you use any addon for that? |
| 19:32.06 | ZorbaTHut | kraps, a combination of auctioneer (especially enchantrix) and a little custom addon that I wrote to automate the mail-related parts of it |
| 19:33.26 | Ackis | what's that? you key log too! |
| 19:33.47 | ZorbaTHut | your mom keylogs |
| 19:33.48 | ZorbaTHut | booyeah |
| 19:33.53 | Ackis | :O |
| 19:35.10 | Kraps | its unfortunately true Ackis ive seen her |
| 19:35.15 | Shirik | ohai |
| 19:35.18 | Shirik | why is Shirik2 here |
| 19:35.30 | Kraps | hes your evil clone? |
| 19:35.42 | Seerah | does he have a goatee? |
| 19:35.49 | Shirik | o.O; |
| 19:36.05 | Thunder_Child | ~lart Seerah |
| 19:36.05 | purl | beats Seerah senseless with a 50lb Unix manual |
| 19:36.41 | Seerah | http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/150946 |
| 19:36.55 | Kraps | btw female draenei DO have tentacles, just very small ones |
| 19:37.19 | Thunder_Child | so do human women |
| 19:37.46 | Shirik | Kraps.... |
| 19:37.47 | Shirik | wtf |
| 19:37.58 | Kraps | ohai Shirik |
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| 19:42.44 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 19:43.32 | Kraps | so what is the ipad? |
| 19:43.55 | Lopeppeppy | A bigger iphone with some netbook features, IMO. |
| 19:44.06 | Thunder_Child | fail imo |
| 19:44.14 | Lopeppeppy | That too. |
| 19:44.35 | nicoli_s | nothing amazing |
| 19:44.35 | Kraps | SO MUHC HAET |
| 19:44.42 | Thunder_Child | and i'm someone that enjoys my ipod touch |
| 19:44.44 | Shirik | ipad? |
| 19:44.45 | Shirik | what? |
| 19:44.54 | Shirik | groans |
| 19:45.16 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah. |
| 19:45.28 | Lopeppeppy | They didn't run that by a 6th grader for giggle-proofing. |
| 19:45.57 | Kraps | isee that my icar needs repairs at the imechanic <--- future of the world |
| 19:46.11 | Shirik | I honestly think Apple's marketing department has turned into "So long as we put an 'i' in front of it, it will sell" |
| 19:46.54 | Kraps | add irepairs |
| 19:47.30 | Kraps | the itoilet in my ihouse is ibroken |
| 19:47.35 | Shirik | so long as they don't make an icup |
| 19:48.23 | Thunder_Child | although, if the ipad has a haptic touchscreen that would make it interesting |
| 19:50.14 | Kraps | ihave an izit on iface |
| 19:50.33 | Kraps | ithis iis ifun |
| 19:51.14 | durcyn | you're recreating a ten year old meme that was never amusing to start with |
| 19:51.22 | durcyn | truly, you are the pinnacles of comedic brilliance |
| 19:52.01 | Industrial | http://www.octothorpe.com/kanyetablet.jpg |
| 19:52.04 | Industrial | :') |
| 19:52.24 | Seerah | hehe |
| 19:52.25 | Kraps | i'd like to thank the iacademy |
| 19:52.58 | Thunder_Child | enough Kraps |
| 19:53.42 | Kraps | i was replying to durcyn |
| 19:54.13 | Thunder_Child | -_- |
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| 20:03.03 | Shirik | want to do something fun? |
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| 20:03.16 | Shirik | Go to google.com and type in "Kanye west is" and check out the autocompletes |
| 20:05.12 | mikma_ | ~kanye |
| 20:06.19 | amro | there's no ~kanye? shame |
| 20:07.58 | kdtresh | maybe apple is targeting the female demographic with their macsy pad |
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| 20:11.43 | batrick | Shirik |
| 20:11.52 | Shirik | batrick |
| 20:12.02 | Shirik | Solve this: http://codepad.org/MncsnZsH |
| 20:13.49 | batrick | you never talk to me anymore |
| 20:13.56 | Shirik | sorry :< |
| 20:14.01 | Shirik | I've been really busy :( |
| 20:14.09 | Shirik | inventing cars with an invinite number of gears and shit |
| 20:14.41 | alestane | Shirik: Why? |
| 20:14.49 | Shirik | what do you mean why? |
| 20:15.49 | Shirik | why infinite number of gears or why invent? |
| 20:16.28 | Shirik | :( |
| 20:16.30 | Shirik | 1>c:\users\mpdelbuono\documents\code\collabrc\collabrcbotunittests\testchangesignificancegene.h(84): Error: Expected (rhs.Test(diffFromBlank) == 1), found (0.0000 != 1) |
| 20:16.30 | Shirik | 1>Failed 1 of 47 tests |
| 20:16.30 | Shirik | 1>Success rate: 97% |
| 20:16.32 | Shirik | why did you do this batrick |
| 20:19.39 | batrick | to mess with you! |
| 20:19.44 | Shirik | :( |
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| 20:21.02 | Lunessa | ~Antiarc++ |
| 20:21.24 | Antiarc | Lunessa: ? |
| 20:21.33 | Lunessa | "haxxoring their Gibsons" wins you internets. |
| 20:21.37 | Antiarc | :D |
| 20:21.48 | Lunessa | You invoked the Patron Saint. |
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| 20:28.22 | alestane | Is this from the "internet safety for alarmists" thread? |
| 20:28.56 | kdtresh | http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0126102dance1.html |
| 20:30.09 | alestane | That's really kind of sad. |
| 20:30.43 | kdtresh | i hate it when sexual bending is prohibited |
| 20:33.00 | Lopeppeppy | I really hate when a school policy has incorrect grammar. |
| 20:33.34 | Lunessa | Also, this one time, in Desolace, I was hungry, and an AddOn made me a ham sandwich. |
| 20:33.42 | Lopeppeppy | I love that addon! |
| 20:33.45 | Lopeppeppy | I want a sammich. |
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| 20:34.42 | alestane | Sammiches are good. |
| 20:36.37 | Fisker | sup del buono |
| 20:36.56 | Lopeppeppy | zuppa del buono? That's a spicy dish. |
| 20:37.19 | NightHawkTheSane | seems like it might be a little thin |
| 20:38.38 | Lopeppeppy | Dude, this student worker really f'd up his office's site, royally. |
| 20:38.47 | Lopeppeppy | bangs her head on the keyboard a few times. |
| 20:39.54 | Fisker | hey NightHawkTheSane |
| 20:39.57 | Fisker | no Lopeppeppy |
| 20:41.18 | Shirik | alestane you never answered me :( |
| 20:41.25 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: You should just bang your head on the keyboard a few times and post the result :) |
| 20:41.49 | alestane | Shirik: I'm unclear on what infinite gears are useful for. Do you just mean a CVT? |
| 20:42.10 | Lopeppeppy | It will be as useful as what this student worker monkey did. Hilarious. |
| 20:42.15 | Shirik | yup |
| 20:42.34 | Shirik | technically it's actually an IVT |
| 20:42.59 | Fisker | DEL BUONO |
| 20:43.19 | Lopeppeppy | Fisker, be useful and make me a sammich. |
| 20:43.29 | Shirik | Fiskerno! |
| 20:44.45 | Fisker | do it Shirik |
| 20:45.04 | Shirik | I will do it when you least expect it |
| 20:45.43 | Fisker | do it now |
| 20:45.52 | Shirik | when you least expect it |
| 20:47.15 | Fisker | i don't expect it now then |
| 20:47.50 | Shirik | but because you know that you don't expect it now then you do expect it now |
| 20:51.53 | Balreign | yes but... because you do expect it now, because you know you don't expect it now then you don't expect it now |
| 20:51.57 | Balreign | ... |
| 20:52.23 | Balreign | I know... STFU |
| 20:52.49 | amro | "Both feet must remain on the dance floor at all times." |
| 20:52.53 | amro | that makes no sense |
| 20:53.19 | alestane | amro: you just have to sort of skooch everywhere. |
| 20:53.31 | alestane | Or wear Heelies. |
| 20:53.34 | durcyn | shuffle. do the zombie. |
| 20:53.36 | amro | or moonwalk |
| 20:54.11 | alestane | High school prom + everyone wearing Heelie shoes = serious potential for awesome. |
| 20:54.21 | alestane | (Also serious potential for injury, of course.) |
| 20:56.42 | Shirik | heelie dancing |
| 20:56.50 | Shirik | alestane just invented the new dance craze of 2010 |
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| 21:01.37 | Fisker | nice |
| 21:01.58 | Fisker | you will remove me from this channel Shirik |
| 21:02.09 | Shirik | no, I will do quite the opposite |
| 21:02.17 | alestane | Shirik: Of course, if someone actually tries it as a way of claiming that they had both feet on the floor, the schools will just ban weird shoes on the dance floor. |
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| 21:02.39 | Fisker2 | oshi |
| 21:02.39 | Fisker | to do that you must first remove me from this channel Shirik |
| 21:02.47 | Fisker2 | fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu |
| 21:03.04 | alestane | Because schools are good at banning things. I'm not sure why some of these places bother holding dances. |
| 21:03.07 | Fisker2 | hi Fisker |
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| 21:20.43 | cog|work | iPad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTzhXMbOWHE |
| 21:21.05 | zenzelezz | next year: iPad Touch |
| 21:21.18 | Fisker | noone cares |
| 21:21.25 | Fisker | oh parody |
| 21:21.28 | Fisker | but madtv |
| 21:21.31 | Fisker | still noone cares |
| 21:21.31 | durcyn | wake me up when there's a version of wow that runs on the tablet |
| 21:21.39 | alestane | Fisker: Be clear. You don't care. |
| 21:21.45 | cog|work | silly people making assumptions about the link |
| 21:22.08 | Fisker | no alestane |
| 21:22.10 | Fisker | noone cares |
| 21:23.28 | alestane | I can't help but notice that whenever anyone contradicts or rebuts you, your whole response consists of restating your opinion; but trying to effect any real change is, I think, beyond my ability to exert myself. |
| 21:23.45 | bleeter | presume we've all see http://blog.cagle.com/news/2010/01/27/mad-tv-predicts-apples-ipad/ by now? |
| 21:24.14 | cog|work | bleeter: that's the video i linked >< |
| 21:24.28 | cog|work | (a higher quality version, actually) |
| 21:24.46 | bleeter | fair nuff |
| 21:24.46 | Fisker | oh nos cog|work |
| 21:24.49 | Fisker | copyright infringement |
| 21:25.03 | cog|work | fair use |
| 21:25.07 | Fisker | alestane it's not my opinion, it's everyones opinion |
| 21:25.18 | Fisker | i'm telling :( |
| 21:25.23 | cog|work | alestane: srs fisker is srs |
| 21:25.26 | bleeter | picked my link up from @dcagle |
| 21:25.45 | cog|work | actually the audio cuts out before the end in the one i linked |
| 21:25.52 | Fisker | i'm super duper cereal cog|work |
| 21:26.17 | durcyn | the bigger question is, what the fuck are people from Boston going to call iPods now |
| 21:26.30 | alestane | cog|work: If he doesn't want to recognize that it's his opinion that his opinion is everyone's opinion, I certainly can't make him. |
| 21:26.52 | mitchnull | alestane: new around here? |
| 21:26.52 | cog|work | that's assuming it's actually his opinion... |
| 21:26.56 | Fisker | this is actually kinda funny cog|work :D |
| 21:26.58 | cog|work | and he's not just being fisker |
| 21:27.06 | alestane | durcyn: Since they have to call iPads iPahds? |
| 21:27.25 | durcyn | exactly. |
| 21:27.39 | Fisker | think i'll go play some Troll Effect 3 cog|work |
| 21:27.39 | durcyn | also, http://www.youtube.com/watch#v=9BnLbv6QYcA |
| 21:27.46 | bleeter | cog|work: there's also http://img111.yfrog.com/i/8yyi.jpg/ |
| 21:27.49 | Fisker | if you catch my drift |
| 21:27.50 | alestane | Bostonians wouldn't actually call a pad a pod in my experience. |
| 21:28.25 | Fisker | btw cog|work |
| 21:28.30 | Fisker | i think teh ipad will faaaaaaail |
| 21:30.46 | cog|work | onoes! the sudoku killer! |
| 21:30.53 | Fisker | hivemind cog|work |
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| 21:38.10 | Fisker | well i could just kill you cog|work |
| 21:38.36 | cog|work | aww how sweet! |
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| 21:41.48 | cog|work | If you think you understand Fisker, you don't understand Fisker |
| 21:42.13 | Thunder_Child | i understand Fisker |
| 21:43.09 | zenzelezz | one does not simply understand the Fisker |
| 21:43.36 | Thunder_Child | unless one is like the Fisker |
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| 21:46.22 | durcyn | to understand fisker is to be fisker |
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| 22:00.05 | augustl | could someone shed some light on how the blizzard SCT shows the <Overpower!> message? :) |
| 22:00.24 | alestane | Much the same way it shows any other combat occurrence. |
| 22:00.45 | Lunessa | Truth |
| 22:00.53 | augustl | I'm looking at tracking these sorts of things. For most TBC and Wotlk abilities, you can monitor buffs |
| 22:00.58 | augustl | overpower is just available, though. No buff. |
| 22:01.04 | augustl | how does blizzard track combat occurrences? |
| 22:01.09 | augustl | s/blizzard/it/ ;) |
| 22:01.24 | alestane | Events. |
| 22:01.52 | durcyn | you could read Blizzard_CombatText.lua and decipher it for yourself |
| 22:02.02 | Lunessa | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_COMBAT_LOG_EVENT |
| 22:02.03 | augustl | durcyn: oh! Didn't occur to me it was in the UI code =P |
| 22:02.04 | augustl | will do |
| 22:02.30 | olafski | wish I could turn off rune cooldowns on blizzard's combat text :( |
| 22:02.50 | alestane | You can...it's grouped with Energy Gains or some such. |
| 22:03.29 | alestane | augustl: I believe it's the "COMBAT_TEXT_UPDATE" event with a first argument of "SPELL_ACTIVE". |
| 22:03.32 | olafski | hmm! must try that tomorrow |
| 22:03.36 | olafski | thanks :) |
| 22:03.58 | augustl | alestane: ah, thanks |
| 22:04.55 | jnwhiteh | The combat log system is covered in the new book =) |
| 22:05.13 | jnwhiteh | that was a fun capter |
| 22:05.15 | jnwhiteh | chapter |
| 22:05.47 | alestane | The combat text and the combat log are at least partially distinct, though. |
| 22:05.56 | jnwhiteh | aye |
| 22:06.19 | jnwhiteh | he said combat occurrences, so wasn't sure which he was talking about. |
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| 22:08.47 | augustl | jnwhiteh: new book :O |
| 22:08.50 | augustl | jnwhiteh: link? |
| 22:09.06 | cog|work | http://www.amazon.com/World-Warcraft-Programming-Reference-Creating/dp/0470481285/ref=tmm_pap_title_1 |
| 22:09.06 | augustl | (and will it be on the iPad? \o/ ) |
| 22:09.21 | augustl | great, thanks |
| 22:10.49 | augustl | so I guess when COMBAT_TEXT_UPDATE fires with SPELL_ACTIVE as it's first argument is coded in C, not Lua. I guess there's no other way of really knowing when overpower is available? |
| 22:11.09 | augustl | I'm thinking it would be better to get a spell ID instead of a spell name, but perhaps it doesn't really matter. |
| 22:11.13 | cog|work | oooh... "in stock" |
| 22:13.54 | augustl | hmm. The blizzard UI code seems to be very unoptimized. When I look at some library code for popular libraries, there's all sorts of fancy bitwise operations and so forth in order to maximize performance |
| 22:14.10 | cog|work | bitwise operations has nothing to do with performance |
| 22:14.19 | cog|work | that's how the combat log data is transmitted to the client |
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| 22:14.23 | augustl | I was about to add that I don't really know what I'm talking about :) |
| 22:14.38 | cog|work | well, your conclusion was correct in many cases, just a bad premise ;) |
| 22:14.56 | augustl | :) |
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| 22:15.16 | cog|work | a lot of the code is legacy from Lua 4.0 and from when the devs hadn't really learned to take full advantage of Lua idioms |
| 22:15.21 | augustl | another example would be local variables. Many libs does `local SomeGlobal = SomeGlobal`, for example, blizz rarely does this |
| 22:15.41 | augustl | can't blame them, I guess they have plenty of work to do ;) |
| 22:15.41 | nevcairiel | You would hate them if they did, fwiw |
| 22:15.58 | zenzelezz | local UIParent |
| 22:16.05 | nevcairiel | upvalues stop hooking, or make it alot harder at least |
| 22:16.13 | augustl | nevcairiel: got an example of that? |
| 22:16.30 | augustl | I thought locals was strictly a lexer performance kind of thing |
| 22:16.35 | cog|work | augustl: anything not global wouldn't be touchable by addon code |
| 22:16.44 | cog|work | unless they specifically provided functions to access them |
| 22:16.46 | augustl | right, it would have to be global at some point |
| 22:17.04 | augustl | I'm just talking about the `local Foo = Foo` so that you can reference the pointer to the global Foo without having to lex all the way up to the global scope |
| 22:17.05 | nevcairiel | once the reference is cached in an upvalue, a hook wouldnt change that anymore |
| 22:17.20 | cog|work | augustl: look at some of the secure*.lua files... you'll see exactly that |
| 22:17.21 | nevcairiel | since the hook changes the reference of the global variable |
| 22:17.30 | augustl | nevcairiel: would it be too much to ask to demonstrate that in a pastie or something? :) |
| 22:17.35 | nevcairiel | but the local doesnt change with it |
| 22:17.59 | augustl | cog|work: ah, that's interesting |
| 22:18.48 | cog|work | while you shouldn't ignore performance when you're designing your code, these kinds of optimizations aren't usually necessary. profiling measurements > assumptions |
| 22:19.11 | nevcairiel | lua>_G["GlobalVar"] = "foo"; local GlobalVar = GlobalVar; print(GlobalVar); _G["GlobalVar"] = "bar"; print(GlobalVar); |
| 22:19.12 | zenzelezz | jesus, can't people stop making new "if we get X members then Y" groups on Facebook? Go make a real petition if you absolutely have to |
| 22:19.13 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: foo, foo |
| 22:19.14 | cog|work | and where they've noticed major bottlenecks, they *have* made changes |
| 22:19.27 | nevcairiel | see, the update doesnt affect the local version of it, obviously |
| 22:19.33 | augustl | nevcairiel: ah, yeah, I see |
| 22:19.38 | cog|work | zenzelezz: "if 1,000,000 people join this group, facebook will ban groups like this" |
| 22:19.54 | augustl | nevcairiel: but for the typical `local GetUnitName = GetUnitName` it's not a problem I assume? |
| 22:19.54 | nevcairiel | and what a hook does, is basically just replace a function with another one |
| 22:20.00 | nevcairiel | sure it is |
| 22:20.14 | nevcairiel | if a addon wants to overwrite GetUnitName to return something else in some cases |
| 22:20.15 | augustl | other addons might hook GetUnitName? |
| 22:20.21 | augustl | I see |
| 22:21.02 | nevcairiel | Maybe not every function is worth hooking, but assesing that for every function is crazy |
| 22:21.10 | nevcairiel | so its better to just keep them all global |
| 22:21.31 | augustl | the only use case for local-ing global vars is if you call them very often, I guess? |
| 22:21.35 | augustl | like, in an OnUpdate or something |
| 22:21.49 | nevcairiel | i guess, yea |
| 22:23.34 | augustl | regarding overpower detection. Can you think of a reliable way to know for how long you can use overpower? |
| 22:24.12 | augustl | nvm, I'll just try it |
| 22:24.54 | augustl | (it = if COMBAT_TEXT_UPDATE fires a 2nd time for overpower if overpower is already usable and your target dodges, making overpower usable again, so to speak) |
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| 22:27.46 | augustl | COMBAT_TEXT_UPDATE feels like such a hack =P |
| 22:27.49 | alestane | It fires when the ability goes from not available to available, if you observe the combat text behavior. |
| 22:28.08 | augustl | a set of events like ABILITY_AVAILABLE etc would have been nice |
| 22:28.19 | alestane | The only other event that fires that I know of is specific to action slots. |
| 22:28.19 | augustl | alestane: I see, thanks |
| 22:28.38 | augustl | so it would be hard to add a timer, then, I guess |
| 22:29.01 | alestane | The action buttons use an event to light the button up when the ability becomes active, but it only polls action slots, not generic spell or item actions. |
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| 22:31.13 | augustl | but you would be able to track it via action slots, I presume? Cause you know when the slot is "usable", and you know what ability the slot has? |
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| 22:34.04 | cog|work | augustl: only if you're in battle stance. in other stances the spell is never marked as available |
| 22:35.39 | augustl | ah so it'll fail for stancedancers |
| 22:36.04 | augustl | I totally want a ABILITY_AVAILABLE. Would be nice if the API wasn't so 1:1 with blizzards UI :) |
| 22:36.26 | cog|work | the whole point of the api is so blizzard can make their ui... |
| 22:36.38 | cog|work | except for the systems specifically in place to allow addons to function |
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| 22:42.54 | Adys | http://derrenbrown.co.uk/blog/2010/01/disappearing-sea-plant/ |
| 22:43.35 | Lunessa | And the sign said, "The words of the prophets are written on the subway walls, and tenement halls." |
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| 22:43.55 | cog|work | umm... not a plant imo |
| 22:44.19 | zenzelezz | and whispered in the wells of silence |
| 22:45.05 | zenzelezz | Lunessa: that is the best line of the song |
| 22:47.31 | Lunessa | I like Simon & Garfunkel. |
| 22:47.48 | zenzelezz | they're not bad |
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| 22:48.37 | zenzelezz | "in the clearing stands a boxer, and a fighter by his trade still he carries the reminders... of every glove that laid him down and cut him till he cried out in his anger and his shame 'I am leaving, I am leaving', but the fighter still remains..." |
| 22:50.08 | Lunessa | Yeah, they had some pretty seriously meaningful lyrics. |
| 22:50.28 | WobWork | "Could it be a coincidence that 'Iraqi' rhymes with 'wacky'?" |
| 22:50.31 | WobWork | =( =( |
| 22:50.35 | augustl | jnwhiteh: is the book available in the EPUB format? |
| 22:51.08 | WobWork | Yes it could be a total coincidence... SINCE IT DOESN'T |
| 22:51.22 | WobWork | unless of course you pronounce it "WARKY" |
| 22:51.28 | zenzelezz | hehe |
| 22:53.38 | Thunder_Child | in which case, you are what you say |
| 22:54.03 | cog|work | http://faultline.org/index.php/site/item/incendiary/ |
| 22:54.17 | cog|work | the boxer is probably my favorite |
| 22:55.10 | cog|work | augustl: it's up to the publisher. the last one was available in print and kindle only, afaik |
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| 22:55.28 | zenzelezz | cog|work: cool link |
| 22:55.50 | DWSR | Jesus christ, another CS lab. |
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| 22:55.55 | DWSR | Mass Effect 2, CS lab. |
| 22:56.01 | DWSR | Mass Effect 2, CS lab. |
| 22:56.13 | DWSR | Anyone want to convince me to stay in my CS lab? |
| 22:56.23 | theorbtwo | WobWork: "rhyme" doesn't mean quite what you think it does. |
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| 22:57.09 | cog|work | hai Jelly___ |
| 22:57.24 | |Jelly| | Hey Cog |
| 22:57.36 | Thunder_Child | ~lart |Jelly| |
| 22:57.36 | purl | strangles |Jelly| with a doohicky mouse cord |
| 22:57.44 | DWSR | ~lart ~lart |
| 22:57.44 | purl | squeezes ~lart till ~lart turns blue like papa smurf |
| 22:58.02 | |Jelly| | Aww TC, that's so sweet of you. |
| 22:58.11 | Thunder_Child | -_- |
| 22:58.41 | WobWork | theorbtwo: That was a quote from a comment =P |
| 22:58.46 | WobWork | not originally from me |
| 22:58.53 | WobWork | since I don't speak like dubya =P |
| 22:59.05 | WobWork | cog|work: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=281ax7Ovlsg&feature=PlayList&p=C83AF424C47EED29&index=0 |
| 23:00.39 | Thunder_Child | gah, queues need to pop faster |
| 23:01.18 | cog|work | lern2tank imo |
| 23:01.47 | DWSR | T_C: Queue as a tank, then don't tank. |
| 23:01.51 | DWSR | sighs |
| 23:02.23 | Thunder_Child | DWSR: i'm actually only one item away from being 5-man def capped |
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| 23:02.40 | DWSR | You should still just not tank. |
| 23:03.08 | zenzelezz | yes, cause nothing is better than being let in and then votekicked off |
| 23:03.12 | |Jelly| | Who cares about being defense capped? Healers are getting laxy these days! :P |
| 23:03.23 | cog|work | WobWork: lurv it |
| 23:03.25 | WobWork | cog|work: also http://faultline.org/index.php/site/item/incendiary/P500/%C3%A2%E2%82%AC%C2%9D#c_50685ââ¬Â |
| 23:03.31 | DWSR | zenzelezz: Because, you know, there's not a grace period for vote kicking. |
| 23:03.44 | DWSR | Which reminds me, can someone explain or link me the rules for vote-kicking? |
| 23:04.03 | Thunder_Child | i think it only requires 3/5 |
| 23:04.11 | zenzelezz | grace periods don't save you in the long run |
| 23:04.29 | WobWork | cog|work: and in theme of the previous link... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFwsk8foLoc |
| 23:04.45 | cog|work | WobWork: that second link was the same thing i linked tha made you link the first link, no? |
| 23:04.58 | Jerub | Thunder_Child: then just tank anyway. |
| 23:05.10 | WobWork | cog|work: it was a link to the comment I made to the post =P |
| 23:05.12 | Jerub | Thunder_Child: you'll end up iwth a healer in 4T10 and he could heal a monkey through todays heroics. |
| 23:05.17 | DWSR | T_C: It's 3+ votes, a certain time has to have elapsed since instance start or the last kick, can't be in combat, can't have killed the final boss, and some others. I think. |
| 23:05.33 | cog|work | WobWork: ah... didn't come through right i guess |
| 23:05.37 | WobWork | Jerub: with the Super Simian Sphere... I -have- healed a monkey through todays heroics |
| 23:05.48 | DWSR | lawl |
| 23:05.57 | WobWork | cog|work: yeah, I noticed that there were weird characters |
| 23:06.05 | Thunder_Child | Jerub: i think you might have issue on the ICC ones, but other than that it should be fine |
| 23:06.11 | Jerub | Thunder_Child: yeah |
| 23:06.17 | *** join/#wowuidev Tinyboom (n=nahh@ti0121a340-dhcp0200.bb.online.no) |
| 23:08.36 | DWSR | T_C: It'll also gear-check you and tell you you're not eligible for ICC instances anyway. |
| 23:09.38 | Thunder_Child | DWSR: is it that good? eg. i have 254 tanking gear but not enough def, and the rest is 254 ret gear. will it catch that? |
| 23:09.57 | Jerub | 251 perhaps? |
| 23:10.09 | Thunder_Child | w/e |
| 23:10.13 | Thunder_Child | 264? |
| 23:10.29 | Jerub | ah |
| 23:10.30 | Jerub | :P |
| 23:11.04 | *** join/#wowuidev Lopeppeppy (n=Lopeppep@cpe-67-252-44-53.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 23:11.04 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Lopeppeppy] by ChanServ |
| 23:11.30 | Thunder_Child | ChanServ is such a whore |
| 23:11.55 | cog|work | morning peppy |
| 23:12.08 | Nechckn | Thought this was tomorrow... guess not. Good cause and some pretty geeky lootzzz. http://www.ign.com/ignforhaiti/ |
| 23:12.36 | Adys | Shadowed |
| 23:12.37 | Adys | PING. |
| 23:13.45 | DWSR | Thunder_Child: I believe it will look at your stamina total and your defense rating. |
| 23:13.57 | DWSR | Dunno how it works, obviously, but I would imagine that it looks at those |
| 23:14.35 | DWSR | 251/264 ret gear is pretty good anyway. You could probably tank anything but the ICC5s in that |
| 23:14.41 | DWSR | I know I've tanked many heroics in cloth. |
| 23:15.07 | Jerub | I can't rmemeber which instance it was. |
| 23:15.07 | DWSR | Just throw on a couple pieces of resil gear for crit immunity and LOLWEEILLIDANTANKYOUARENOTPREPAREDNOMNOMNOMNOM |
| 23:15.09 | Jerub | probably gundrak. |
| 23:15.17 | Jerub | realised i was in my healer gear after getting down the last boss |
| 23:15.26 | DWSR | Were you tanking? |
| 23:15.28 | Jerub | (I HATE HATE HATE how bear form can't give you any indication about what you're wearing) |
| 23:15.34 | Jerub | yes. |
| 23:15.37 | DWSR | lulz. |
| 23:15.50 | DWSR | I've had tanks that are so shitty holding threat that I just tank over them. |
| 23:16.04 | DWSR | I usually run with a tree healer that I know and I just tell him I'm going to pull everything and he's like "mkay." |
| 23:16.16 | DWSR | And so we burn through HoL with a cloth tank in like 15 minutes. |
| 23:16.41 | DWSR | Shows you how stupid the gear curve is. |
| 23:17.09 | WobWork | I'm a fairly laid back bear tank |
| 23:17.19 | WobWork | since I'm freshly 80 |
| 23:17.30 | WobWork | if anyone else wants to tank over me |
| 23:17.32 | Nechckn | The auction stuff for the Haiti thinger - http://stores.ebay.com/IGN-for-Haiti |
| 23:17.32 | WobWork | they can =P |
| 23:17.52 | WobWork | I'll do my best to maintain aggro, but I won't stress out over being overaggro'd |
| 23:17.57 | Adys | does json have support for integer keys? |
| 23:18.00 | Adys | in tables |
| 23:18.03 | Adys | arrays whatever |
| 23:18.16 | Gnarfoz | Additional instances cannot be launched! Server is too busy, please come back in a few minutes. |
| 23:18.26 | Gnarfoz | ^ wowprogress error message on too many connections |
| 23:18.41 | Lunessa | WobWork: You gear up stupidly fast. I went from "lol bear tank" to "RAWR MOTHER FUCKERS" in like a week |
| 23:18.49 | cog|work | ^ |
| 23:19.35 | WobWork | =\ My last few heroics, I got nothing =( |
| 23:19.39 | cog|work | a week and a half after the patch, i had all my T9 gear for both sets |
| 23:19.40 | WobWork | everything was plate and mail =( |
| 23:19.46 | WobWork | and defense/parry... |
| 23:19.53 | cog|work | WobWork: drops are meh... it's the emblems |
| 23:19.56 | WobWork | do we have parry? |
| 23:20.10 | Jerub | WobWork: bear tanking is cool :) |
| 23:20.14 | Nechckn | Wobin, what is my Ebay user name? |
| 23:20.25 | Jerub | Nechckn: Ladyman187 ? |
| 23:20.42 | WobWork | PsychoChckn? |
| 23:21.00 | Nechckn | You're not wobin, who has access to the entirety of Internetdom, Jerub |
| 23:21.11 | Nechckn | =P |
| 23:21.35 | Nechckn | damnit.. I was going to bid on some of the signed scripts but cannot remember my damn name |
| 23:21.48 | zenzelezz | Nechckn: Nechckn |
| 23:22.02 | Nechckn | Unfortunately, that's not it. |
| 23:22.09 | Lunessa | Wob, you only need to worry about dodge and stamina/armor |
| 23:22.15 | bleeter | Nechckn: Nechckn |
| 23:22.16 | bleeter | zenzelezz: zenzelezz |
| 23:22.19 | WobWork | Lunessa: yeah, that's what I thought =\ |
| 23:22.21 | Jerub | Nechckn: tee hee |
| 23:22.23 | bleeter | bleeter: bleeter |
| 23:22.26 | WobWork | defense rings worth it? |
| 23:22.31 | bleeter | WobWork: thx again :) |
| 23:22.33 | cog|work | "I just read that the iPad has and adhesive strip on the back to hold it securely in place on your lap. Can anyone confirm this?" |
| 23:22.33 | WobWork | well, defense in general |
| 23:22.36 | zenzelezz | bleeter: I know my name |
| 23:22.46 | Jerub | WobWork: defence is never bad, but other stats like agility have better net benefit. |
| 23:22.46 | Lunessa | Oh, and in ICC, macroing Maul to all your attacks is not good for Saurfang, I'm just saying... |
| 23:22.47 | WobWork | bleeter: no worries =) |
| 23:23.01 | Nechckn | cog|work That is so you can tear off the first page to get to a clean sheet. |
| 23:23.05 | Jerub | Lunessa: what about if you click off the glyph of maul? |
| 23:23.19 | bleeter | cog|work: you noticed that the fanbois are starting to get antsy with the jokes? |
| 23:23.26 | Jerub | Lunessa: because, for real, bear DSP is 60% maul, single target. |
| 23:23.29 | Nechckn | cog|work for when your kids decide that it looks better with the sharpie doodles |
| 23:23.29 | Jerub | er DPS |
| 23:23.30 | Lunessa | Jerub: No. Just put Lacerate and Mangle on your bar. |
| 23:23.43 | Jerub | Lunessa: ... and FFF. |
| 23:23.46 | cog|work | and partnering with Red Bull to give it wings imo... |
| 23:23.55 | Jerub | Lunessa: Maul is okay if it just hits saurfang, right? |
| 23:24.02 | cog|work | yep |
| 23:24.06 | Lunessa | Yeah, and be careful to Maul only when the beasts arent up |
| 23:24.10 | cog|work | as long as the beasts are out of cleave range |
| 23:24.23 | Jerub | Lunessa: maul only has a cleave with the glyph on. |
| 23:24.25 | Nechckn | The whole thing is rather "meh" - it's not like it is new or innovative, imnsho. |
| 23:24.35 | cog|work | which you'll want |
| 23:24.45 | Lunessa | I have Mangle/maul and Lacerate/Maul and Swipe/Maul macros for everyday tanking. Lazy bear is LAZY |
| 23:24.49 | Jerub | because man, i'd prefer to carry extra glyphs for saurfang than lose 1500+ DPS |
| 23:25.11 | cog|work | your only job is to hold threat imo |
| 23:25.38 | Jerub | cog|work: saurfang is a messy fight and a dps race against the mark-enrage. every little bit helps. |
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| 23:26.03 | cog|work | well there's that... |
| 23:26.42 | Jerub | i'm starting to carry more glyphs. |
| 23:26.59 | Jerub | I had to remove rapid rejuv for deathwhisper |
| 23:27.14 | Jerub | was giving me massive mana problems. |
| 23:27.32 | Nechckn | Pretty yummy - http://cgi.ebay.com/World-of-Warcraft-Collectors-Edition-PC-Games_W0QQitemZ140377470011QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVideo_Games_Games?hash=item20af26343b |
| 23:28.01 | Nechckn | They should have found some Blizzy folks to sign it or something, though. |
| 23:30.18 | Lunessa | I'd rather be a hammer than a nail. |
| 23:31.10 | zenzelezz | why? You may get to bang stuff, but you won't get to penetrate |
| 23:31.46 | WobWork | Yes you would, if you could, You surely would |
| 23:32.24 | zenzelezz | hammers have minimal penetration skills |
| 23:33.10 | WobWork | zenzelezz: depends on how hard you wield them |
| 23:33.32 | Lunessa | And against what. |
| 23:33.38 | Thunder_Child | you guys are really having this conversation? |
| 23:33.41 | zenzelezz | they can still never compare to a nail; and you're likely to harm it |
| 23:34.03 | Lunessa | I'd rather be a sparrow than a snail. |
| 23:35.36 | Nechckn | Now you can pretend that she cares as you roll around on her scribbles - http://cgi.ebay.com/Hayden-Panettierre-autographed-bedding_W0QQitemZ140376888360QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item20af1d5428 |
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| 23:37.14 | kd3 | huh... another spoofed rdns phishing email |
| 23:38.24 | cog|work | She's the kind of hot that i've never really found hot |
| 23:38.36 | zenzelezz | lukewarm? |
| 23:38.50 | cog|work | i'd hit that, but there's plenty of people ahead of her. |
| 23:39.39 | kd3 | and uh... wow. it silently redirects the login to the actual bnet site |
| 23:40.01 | Nechckn | cog|work I agree |
| 23:40.33 | Nechckn | If she brought them to my house after winning the auction... I'd likely not kick her out, at least for a couple hours. |
| 23:41.05 | Lopeppeppy | Meh. I'd let her clean my bathroom, but I don't like her new dark hair. |
| 23:41.33 | Nechckn | that can be changed, Lopeppeppy |
| 23:41.55 | DWSR | kd3: Wow, really? |
| 23:41.58 | Nechckn | Besides, then you could let us know how it is... think of the attention you would get then! |
| 23:42.06 | kd3 | it doesn't actually log you in, but yah |
| 23:42.22 | Lopeppeppy | I'M the redhead in this house. |
| 23:42.24 | DWSR | lol, it would be so easy to actually just pass the login. |
| 23:42.24 | zenzelezz | Nechckn: cause she's not already getting a lot of attention? |
| 23:42.35 | kd3 | it tries... |
| 23:42.37 | DWSR | Lopeppeppy: 2 redheads just means the action is twice as hot. |
| 23:42.46 | Lopeppeppy | She's not natural, who wants a faker? |
| 23:42.53 | Nechckn | There would be no other discussion for weeks! |
| 23:42.57 | zenzelezz | peppy's right |
| 23:43.02 | DWSR | Well you made it sound like she was. |
| 23:43.10 | Nechckn | Especially once Lopeppeppy posts the video |
| 23:43.12 | DWSR | I don't even know who the hell she is. |
| 23:43.15 | DWSR | Nechckn: kekeke |
| 23:43.16 | Nechckn | Yarrr... |
| 23:43.21 | Lopeppeppy | "new dark hair", she just went redhead. |
| 23:43.29 | Lopeppeppy | DWSR, she's the cheerleader from Heroes. |
| 23:43.40 | DWSR | You seem to be under the illusion that I watch this show. |
| 23:43.44 | DWSR | Heroes LULZ. |
| 23:44.00 | Nechckn | Even I know who she is.. and I rarely know any "celebrities" |
| 23:44.13 | cog|work | DWSR: google image imo |
| 23:44.16 | cog|work | images* |
| 23:44.17 | Lopeppeppy | You've at least heard of it, whether you've seen it or not. That's the only thing I know she's done. |
| 23:44.47 | Nechckn | Well, if you win the auction, you could tell us of another thing! =) |
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| 23:44.58 | Nechckn | buh, dump, dump... Chhhh!! |
| 23:45.04 | Lunessa | She was in some lame surfer movie too. |
| 23:45.17 | zenzelezz | you have some weird-sounding drums Nechckn |
| 23:45.24 | DWSR | LULZ. |
| 23:45.40 | cog|work | http://instantrimshot.com |
| 23:46.08 | zenzelezz | I remember the week my coworkers discovered the rimshot iPhone app x.x |
| 23:46.20 | DWSR | My TA just told me that Java constants can change. |
| 23:46.26 | DWSR | And that variables are constant. |
| 23:47.01 | DWSR | ~rimshot |
| 23:47.01 | purl | badum-TISH! |
| 23:47.09 | DWSR | Much better. |
| 23:47.19 | Nechckn | Sorry, Lopeppeppy, I tried bidding and was outbid immediately. I know you must be let down and all... sorry. |
| 23:47.40 | zenzelezz | peppy's not up for auction |
| 23:47.41 | DWSR | Nechckn: Someone's probably got it on auto-bid for up to 800-1k. |
| 23:47.44 | DWSR | LULZ. |
| 23:48.01 | Lopeppeppy | Dude, if I'm up for auction, let me go brush my hair or something. |
| 23:48.32 | Nechckn | No.. I was going to send you the special sheet set. But no luck. |
| 23:49.18 | Nechckn | We wouldn't sell you outright, anyway. Maybe Shirik but not you. |
| 23:49.41 | Shirik | I could never sell Lopeppeppy |
| 23:49.45 | Shirik | I would keep her for myself |
| 23:50.14 | DWSR | s/would/will/ |
| 23:50.16 | DWSR | Fix't. |
| 23:51.10 | Shirik | that would imply she's mine, which sadly she is not |
| 23:51.32 | Lopeppeppy | Would implies conditional. *nod* Is the better word choice. Flattery gets you everywhere. |
| 23:51.51 | DWSR | Except into your pants. *sadface* |
| 23:51.55 | DWSR | runs |
| 23:52.59 | Cairenn | cries at Lopeppeppy |
| 23:54.10 | Lopeppeppy | Oh no, Cairenn, what's wrong? |
| 23:54.28 | WobWork | hugs and squeezes Cairenn and calls her George. |
| 23:54.47 | Cairenn | (2010-01-27 18:42:46) Lopeppeppy: She's not natural, who wants a faker? |
| 23:54.49 | Cairenn | cries |
| 23:55.01 | zenzelezz | Cairenn's a faker? |
| 23:55.26 | DWSR | lol |
| 23:55.27 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 23:55.27 | Lopeppeppy | Lady, you are all natural, top to bottom, hot hot hot. |
| 23:55.36 | Thunder_Child | she promises beatings but never delivers :( |
| 23:55.45 | Lopeppeppy | Hayden's some silly punk actress who would without doubt bring vile things to these poor boys. |
| 23:55.48 | WobWork | Does she promise ponies? |
| 23:55.54 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 23:55.58 | Lopeppeppy | snuggles Cairenn. |
| 23:55.59 | Cairenn | my hair gets some help these days |
| 23:56.00 | WobWork | Good |
| 23:56.26 | Lopeppeppy | Clariol helps us all. My hair is white at the temples now, no foolin'. |
| 23:56.42 | DWSR | WobWork: Better than GC, I guess? |
| 23:56.46 | zenzelezz | who's Clariol and why is he messing with your hair? |
| 23:56.54 | DWSR | zenzelezz: I believe she meant Clairol. |
| 23:56.58 | DWSR | the company. |
| 23:57.14 | zenzelezz | vaguely rings a bell |
| 23:57.23 | Lopeppeppy | Meh, something like that. Take pity on poor spelling, it was a long day with the hand, and I had to wrangle the cat when I got home. |
| 23:57.28 | cog|work | they make the orgasm shampoo |
| 23:57.43 | zenzelezz | I thought that was Herbal Essences? |
| 23:57.51 | cog|work | clairol herbal essences >< |
| 23:57.53 | Cairenn | cog|work: no, they lie about that! |
| 23:58.01 | theorbtwo | Natural is overrated. |
| 23:58.07 | cog|work | Cairenn: i know... been trying fruitlessly for years >< |
| 23:58.15 | DWSR | zenzelezz: Clairol makes Herbal Essences. |
| 23:58.20 | DWSR | And it is DEFINITELY orgasm shampoo. |
| 23:58.21 | Nechckn | Bah.. all the good things on there are expensive! hehehe |
| 23:58.22 | DWSR | And I am a guy. |
| 23:59.07 | cog|work | the ad campaign called it "Organic" because "organic" is sorta like "orgasmic" but then the organic industry jumped all over them |
| 23:59.08 | Lopeppeppy | I prefer Garnier. |
| 23:59.09 | Nechckn | So you use it often, DWSR? (needs clarification) |
| 23:59.24 | Lopeppeppy | But that's an allergy issue, I stick to what I know I can cope with. |
| 23:59.51 | DWSR | Nechckn: Whenever I'm at my parents place. |
