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| 00:41.13 | cbreak | several sub2% wipes on festergut :( |
| 00:41.20 | cbreak | I don't like gear check bosses |
| 00:42.39 | Kraps | theres a chick making threads on the forums linking pics and a live jtv vid of her... stipteasing |
| 00:43.43 | Jerub | Kraps: awesomesauce |
| 00:43.50 | cbreak | sounds like there's a new flash exploit in action |
| 00:46.40 | Jerub | excellent |
| 00:47.16 | Kraps | its justin tv, no exploits |
| 00:47.23 | Jerub | i'm torn between 4T9 bonus for my bear and going to 2T9 + more 245 non-teir gear. |
| 00:51.30 | Lopeppeppy | It's on the internet, there will always be some exploit. :) Although I've had good luck with jtv myself. |
| 00:52.25 | cbreak | I got 2 t10 yesterday |
| 00:52.30 | Jerub | cbreak: grats |
| 00:52.31 | cbreak | it's great for mages at least |
| 00:52.36 | cbreak | just the badge version |
| 00:52.51 | cbreak | but the 2 piece bonus seems better than t9 4 piece |
| 00:52.57 | Jerub | actually, that's a point, i could probably jump straight to 3x245 + 2T10. |
| 00:52.58 | cbreak | (which already was very good) |
| 00:53.16 | Jerub | the druid T10 is bear bear bear gear. |
| 00:53.20 | cbreak | I went with ungemmed t10 for icc25 |
| 00:53.23 | cbreak | for the first boss |
| 00:53.27 | cbreak | but didn't win the token :( |
| 00:53.41 | cbreak | no several sets like they normally have? |
| 00:53.46 | Shirik | Does anyone know of some kind of software that can run on my computer and run an FFT and tell me what frequencies are being played in realtime? |
| 00:53.54 | Jerub | +20% AOE damage, +20% DoT damage for 2T10. 4T10 turns 'enrage' into a second barkskin. |
| 00:53.59 | Jerub | basically halving the CD on that. |
| 00:54.06 | cbreak | Shirik: an equalizer/visualizer? |
| 00:54.11 | Shirik | yes, wtb |
| 00:54.14 | Shirik | name! |
| 00:54.19 | Kraps | Theory Of A Deadman is win |
| 00:54.23 | cbreak | iTunes isn't really scientific :/ |
| 00:54.29 | cbreak | doesn't do much audio |
| 00:54.34 | Jerub | cbreak: druid tier sets combined kitty+bear inthe same set. but the kitty bonuses are meh and the bear sets are fucking win. |
| 00:54.49 | cbreak | maybe a hint by bliz :) |
| 00:55.20 | Jerub | I see os few kitties since 3.3, and all of them are bad at kitty. |
| 00:55.35 | Jerub | I had a druid facerolling 'Swipe (Cat)' on trash in icc25. |
| 00:55.49 | Jerub | was in ilvl 232/245 gear and getting 2.5k dps on the trash. |
| 00:55.51 | Jerub | fucking painful. |
| 00:56.10 | cbreak | Shirik: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/about/features |
| 00:56.17 | cbreak | # Spectrogram mode for visualizing frequencies. |
| 00:56.21 | cbreak | not sure if it's real time |
| 00:56.52 | cbreak | we have a druid tank |
| 00:56.55 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: your gamer pic sucks |
| 00:56.57 | cbreak | he almost never tanks, always kitten |
| 00:57.01 | Shirik | sorry? |
| 00:57.03 | cbreak | and his dps is rather neat |
| 00:57.17 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: XBL |
| 00:58.54 | WobWork | Jerub: I was playing dps kitty last night for the first time in a heroic |
| 00:59.06 | WobWork | how do you get around -not- swipespamming on packs? |
| 00:59.55 | Jerub | WobWork: sure, swipespam when it's getting 4+ guys, but switch to single target tactics once there's a few down. |
| 01:00.16 | Jerub | and for the love of got, put a rip in and hit savage roar before starting to swipe spam. |
| 01:00.28 | Jerub | this kitty was seriously doing /nothing/ but melee+swipe |
| 01:02.14 | Jerub | WobWork: you were getting savage roar up, right? |
| 01:03.11 | WobWork | yeah |
| 01:03.32 | WobWork | that's usually my first step, mangle + raaawr |
| 01:03.47 | WobWork | and maybe a tiger's fury |
| 01:04.16 | Shirik | cbreak: Does not appear to do that in realtime |
| 01:04.25 | Shirik | it only appears to work on recorded data |
| 01:05.15 | Jerub | WobWork: don't mangle if you're not shredding, hit rip instead, more damage, and it'll proc your 264 idol if you have it. |
| 01:06.17 | Lopeppeppy | Wow, 2012 has a sucky plot from the first minute! |
| 01:06.40 | Jerub | siiiigh |
| 01:06.52 | Jerub | I *want* to do kitty. but i need my bear |
| 01:07.46 | Jerub | I think the best thing to do is to add 75 levels to my rogue and play that instead :P |
| 01:08.02 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy: i found it entertaining, besides, i watched it for the CGI |
| 01:08.07 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, rogues from behind with daggers. |
| 01:08.40 | Lopeppeppy | TC, I'm pretty sure it will be entertaining. I love me some disaster movies and z-grade monster flicks, they're awesome. |
| 01:09.10 | Lopeppeppy | Remember, I'm the chick who raved about Mega Shark versus Giant Octopus. |
| 01:09.14 | Thunder_Child | Lopeppeppy: NO, bad Lopeppeppy. |
| 01:09.16 | Lopeppeppy | Or was it a squid? |
| 01:09.23 | Thunder_Child | thats not even a Z |
| 01:09.51 | Thunder_Child | it would take devine intervention simply to call that a movie |
| 01:10.10 | Shirik | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 01:10.13 | Lopeppeppy | Octopus, right. So very zzzz- it was awesome. I'd like a shark with that, and supersize it. Oh, yeah, bigger, it has to eat the Golden Gate bridge in the next scene |
| 01:10.29 | Lopeppeppy | Hilarious. |
| 01:10.36 | Thunder_Child | or the airplane scene >.< |
| 01:10.40 | Thunder_Child | sooooo bad |
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| 01:17.54 | cbreak | Shirik: maybe http://sourceforge.net/projects/brp-pacu/? Didn't try it yet, but it brags being able to do a lot :) |
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| 01:21.48 | Lopeppeppy | Crunch all you want, we'll fly more. |
| 01:37.25 | Recluse | can key binds be created entirely in Lua, or do you have to use a Bindings.xml file? |
| 01:37.50 | Iriel | Depends |
| 01:37.58 | Iriel | Do you want them to show up in the key bindings UI? |
| 01:38.53 | Recluse | no, it does not need to show up there. |
| 01:39.05 | Recluse | set up an event for keypress? |
| 01:39.33 | Iriel | If you want it to behave like a normal keybind, then the easiest way I find is to create a Button and use SetBindingClick |
| 01:40.25 | Iriel | Those are also very easy to transition to Bindings.xml later if you want to make it bindable via the keybind UI |
| 01:40.25 | Shirik | Lopeppeppy can fly? |
| 01:40.56 | Iriel | I heard Lopeppeppy could leap tall buildings in a single bound |
| 01:41.10 | Recluse | if i do that, will MouseIsOver() return the correct info, or the button? |
| 01:41.26 | Recluse | just to confirm |
| 01:42.03 | Iriel | You normally wouldn't use a visible button, so the mouse would never be over it... Maybe I misunderstand what you're asking for? |
| 01:43.04 | Recluse | that sounds good, thanks :) |
| 01:43.30 | Lopeppeppy | can totally fly. |
| 01:43.43 | Recluse | i just wanted to be sure that the button wouldn't steal the mouse's focus internally somehow :p |
| 01:46.09 | Shirik | Anyone here good with C++? Where's my cbreak and cogwheel.... I have a fun problem. I have a constructor that takes a const Foo&. |
| 01:46.33 | cbreak | for Foo? Copy constructor? |
| 01:47.35 | Recluse | yay, worked perfect |
| 01:47.49 | Lopeppeppy | Know what else is hilarious? I convinced a girlfriend to get Pedialyte suckers for her husband who has the miserable flu, and he's gonna kill me when he feels better! |
| 01:48.15 | Shirik | sec, |
| 01:48.18 | Shirik | I'll show you the problem |
| 01:49.56 | Nechckn | Lopeppeppy better than pedialite enemas! |
| 01:50.28 | Lopeppeppy | Seriously, Nechckn. At least he's doing well enough to complain and threaten me. And he's eating them anyway. |
| 01:50.45 | Nechckn | I used to love that stuff... the beverage that went in the 'top' that is. |
| 01:50.52 | Shirik | ok so I have a setup something like this cbreak / cogwheel: http://codepad.org/DQXnFrvJ |
| 01:50.55 | Shirik | Naturally, this is illegal |
| 01:51.02 | Shirik | with good reason, because it would be a memory leak anyway |
| 01:51.16 | Shirik | but the question is this: How do I create a temporary Foo for use in the constructor? |
| 01:51.28 | Shirik | (Ignore the actual contents of the problem, this is just a sample) |
| 01:51.35 | Lopeppeppy | Never tasted Pedialyte, thank goodness. |
| 01:52.15 | Nechckn | Lopeppeppy It was the '70s version, so not sure exactly what it was... all I know is that I still think fondly of it today. |
| 01:52.22 | Shirik | boggles at Lopeppeppy |
| 01:52.35 | cbreak | without new? |
| 01:53.00 | cbreak | nah, that's GLSL syntax |
| 01:53.13 | Lopeppeppy | Never babysat any kidlets who were sick enough to need it, so I never had occasion to drink some. |
| 01:53.27 | Lopeppeppy | But if my friend is well enough to curse my name, it's all good. |
| 01:53.33 | Nechckn | Lopeppeppy Just like whiskey, lemon, and honey/sugar for coughs. Ah.. the good ole days. |
| 01:53.51 | Nechckn | True, true.. that is the important thing. |
| 01:53.59 | Shirik | GLSL? |
| 01:54.02 | Lopeppeppy | Dude, when I had teething pains they gave me brandy, that's the good old days. None of that freakin Ambesol crap. Drunk babies don't cry! |
| 01:55.20 | Shirik | .... wtfhax: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7P9eWJTvT0 |
| 01:56.12 | cbreak | OpenGL Shading Language. |
| 01:56.20 | cbreak | it's constructors are also used for casting |
| 01:56.56 | Lopeppeppy | The crust is liquidating, run for your lives! This is a friggin' Bugs Bunny cartoon. |
| 01:57.11 | cbreak | you could make a factory for Foo objects |
| 01:57.41 | Shirik | apparently you were right cbreak |
| 01:57.45 | Shirik | I can just go Foo() |
| 01:57.58 | cbreak | hmm. neat :) |
| 01:58.15 | cbreak | Would have done Foo::Foo() or Foo::CreateFoo() |
| 01:58.21 | cbreak | but if it works :) |
| 01:59.13 | Jerub | Lopeppeppy: port is also good |
| 01:59.42 | cbreak | right, I remember, Foo f(...) is equal to Foo f = Foo(...); |
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| 02:05.17 | Shirik | you can do Foo f = Foo(...) ?? |
| 02:05.21 | Shirik | I've never done that, heh |
| 02:06.16 | Lopeppeppy | Oh noes, the world is ending. |
| 02:06.25 | Lopeppeppy | I would throw popcorn at the screen, but it's my laptop. |
| 02:06.40 | Shirik | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 02:07.42 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, I really want to inflict this on someone else! it's an awesome movie. |
| 02:07.53 | Shirik | o.O |
| 02:07.59 | Shirik | you can inflict whatever you want on me |
| 02:08.29 | Lopeppeppy | Aww, that's the nicest thing you've ever said to me! |
| 02:08.39 | Shirik | it is? o.o |
| 02:08.40 | Lopeppeppy | 'cause I don't think you've said, "here, eat my share of the chocolate". |
| 02:08.46 | Lopeppeppy | Which would trump all else. |
| 02:09.28 | Shirik | sorry I've been so mean to you! |
| 02:09.43 | Lopeppeppy | *hug* |
| 02:09.58 | Lopeppeppy | oooh, look at the Sony product placement! |
| 02:14.19 | cbreak | dimensions_ = Vec2f(256, 256); // straight from my code :) |
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| 02:14.35 | cbreak | Vec2f is a typedefed struct |
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| 02:16.22 | Shirik | you are so strange |
| 02:17.16 | Lopeppeppy | Sweetie, you have no idea. |
| 02:22.22 | awweaver | ^ |
| 02:23.24 | Lopeppeppy | This guy is flying a plane, and not going upward. What? Let's fly at ground level and die a lot. |
| 02:23.53 | awweaver | Where? |
| 02:25.29 | Lopeppeppy | I'm watching 2012, awweaver. |
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| 02:29.54 | awweaver | Ok.. |
| 02:31.19 | bleeter | lol 2012 is a great movie |
| 02:31.23 | bleeter | comedy |
| 02:31.28 | awweaver | havent seen it |
| 02:31.38 | awweaver | its on my list |
| 02:31.40 | bleeter | watching LA slide down in to Arizona bay, just like Bill Hicks/Tool said |
| 02:31.47 | bleeter | laughed my butt off |
| 02:32.11 | bleeter | kinda bored me shitless after that, but did laugh for quite some time |
| 02:32.13 | awweaver | CA should become its own island....line the border with c4 and boom its gone |
| 02:32.38 | Shirik | here cbreak |
| 02:32.45 | Shirik | wanna see something scary? |
| 02:32.54 | cbreak | show |
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| 02:35.46 | awweaver | is this the correct syntaxt? print("Added " string.sub(name, 4)); |
| 02:37.09 | Shirik | to solve the problem, cbreak, http://wowi.pastey.net/131867 |
| 02:37.16 | Shirik | awweaver: You need a .. after the second " |
| 02:37.25 | awweaver | k ty |
| 02:37.29 | cbreak | .. is the lua string concat operator |
| 02:37.39 | Shirik | sorry, mis-copied cbreak |
| 02:37.55 | Shirik | http://wowi.pastey.net/131868 |
| 02:40.03 | cbreak | what exactly do you want to do? |
| 02:41.29 | cbreak | initialize your parent with a T object? |
| 02:42.22 | cbreak | * is the dereference operator, but std::auto_ptr<CollabRC::Bot::AI::ComputationalTreeNode> is not a pointer |
| 02:43.20 | cbreak | so you don't use the auto pointer at all, but access GenerateRemovedBytesObserver()'s return value, which is presumably a ComputationalTreeNode |
| 02:44.37 | cbreak | no idea why you do that all :) |
| 02:45.32 | cbreak | this might work similar: http://wowi.pastey.net/131869 |
| 02:56.14 | A-KO | my guild still doesn't believe that the ooze explosions on rotface go to where you were standing |
| 02:56.44 | Lopeppeppy | The ooze oozes where it chooses! |
| 02:57.01 | cbreak | yay |
| 02:57.33 | Lopeppeppy | I'm totally laughing here, bleeters, Hawaii is totally awesome. |
| 02:58.01 | awweaver | Hello people |
| 02:58.48 | awweaver | I'd do it but im not voiced |
| 02:59.04 | Gnarfoz | <bleeter> watching LA slide down in to Arizona bay, just like Bill Hicks/Tool said <-- I can't help but be reminded of http://www.endofworld.net/ |
| 02:59.08 | awweaver | Oops |
| 02:59.54 | awweaver | sry, im in 2 chats... |
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| 03:06.55 | Kraps | heya, how do you slow a banana's ripening speed? |
| 03:07.06 | Kraps | no this is not a riddle |
| 03:08.48 | Thunder_Child | refridgerate? |
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| 03:08.53 | Lopeppeppy | No... |
| 03:09.11 | Lopeppeppy | I know ways to speed it up, Kraps, but not slow it down. Why do you need to do that? |
| 03:09.24 | Thunder_Child | yes Lopeppeppy, it does work |
| 03:09.48 | Thunder_Child | refridgeration retards the ripening of most fruit |
| 03:10.27 | awweaver | I'll do it... |
| 03:10.28 | Lopeppeppy | Keeping them slightly chilled helps, TC, but true refrigeration can make them go mushy. |
| 03:10.55 | Thunder_Child | depends how long they are in there Lopeppeppy |
| 03:11.11 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: trying to reach a balance between too ripe and not ripe enough |
| 03:11.27 | Thunder_Child | also, bananas go mushy regardless of what you do with them |
| 03:12.00 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: when it gets to ripe, i'ts banana bread time! |
| 03:12.03 | Lopeppeppy | Kraps, I tend to buy only a few bananas at a time, and keep them on a banana hook, well away from other fruits and where air can circulate freely. |
| 03:12.14 | Lopeppeppy | And when they get too ripe, aye, they go into the freezer for future banana bread. |
| 03:12.49 | Thunder_Child | oh man a good banana bread is awesome |
| 03:13.01 | Lopeppeppy | I make mine with yogurt so it's more moist, yum. |
| 03:13.08 | Thunder_Child | crunchy on the outside and warm and fluffy on the inside |
| 03:13.19 | Thunder_Child | damn, i made myself want it now :( |
| 03:13.33 | Lopeppeppy | Good cornbread is also rare and wonderful. |
| 03:13.51 | Thunder_Child | yes, though i can not stand it with chunks of corn |
| 03:14.00 | Thunder_Child | i hate that so much |
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| 03:14.22 | Kraps | why am i watching ME2 vids? not cool |
| 03:14.55 | Thunder_Child | Kraps: for the same reason wikipedia is a black hole of time use? |
| 03:15.44 | Kraps | i was talking about the spoiler angle |
| 03:16.16 | Kraps | but then again, wikipedia did spoil the twist in season 1 of 24 |
| 03:16.29 | Kraps | i was depressed for like 3 days |
| 03:19.00 | Arrowmaster | which twist? |
| 03:19.21 | Kraps | umm |
| 03:19.28 | Lopeppeppy | That one. |
| 03:19.31 | Lopeppeppy | You know. |
| 03:19.32 | Kraps | the BIG one |
| 03:19.34 | Lopeppeppy | The one with the twist. |
| 03:19.38 | Lopeppeppy | Like that. |
| 03:19.43 | Kraps | yes |
| 03:19.49 | Arrowmaster | i recall multiple ones |
| 03:20.00 | Kraps | it was more like the reveal |
| 03:20.10 | Arrowmaster | the spy? |
| 03:20.28 | Kraps | mole is the correct term :) |
| 03:20.47 | Kraps | but yeah |
| 03:20.51 | Kraps | that one |
| 03:22.55 | Lopeppeppy | oh god, the queen and her damn corgis! |
| 03:24.47 | Jerub | everyone talks about her damn footwarmed, what about the royal stable full of well bred horses? |
| 03:25.01 | Lopeppeppy | She wasn't bringing them on the rescue helicopter |
| 03:26.11 | Kraps | Shinedown - Yer Majesty |
| 03:27.20 | awweaver | Ok guys i need help, wow says theres somethign wrong with line 7 here http://wowuidev.pastey.net/131871 |
| 03:27.27 | Kraps | alliance pally, which race? |
| 03:27.50 | Arrowmaster | print("-----------"): |
| 03:27.57 | Arrowmaster | remove the : |
| 03:28.04 | Arrowmaster | infact completely stop using ; |
| 03:28.05 | awweaver | d'oh |
| 03:28.19 | awweaver | im so used to java its insinct |
| 03:29.12 | awweaver | I entirely didnt see the : ... |
| 03:33.01 | awweaver | Ok, another question wow doesnt report any errors, but it doesnt work like its supposed to so whats wrong with it? did i do it wrong? http://wowuidev.pastey.net/131872 |
| 03:34.13 | cbreak | why do you pass nil? |
| 03:35.23 | awweaver | Y'know ive entirely forgotten ill look up the thign again |
| 03:35.50 | cbreak | once you found the answer |
| 03:35.53 | cbreak | you found the bug :) |
| 03:36.07 | Arrowmaster | guessing thats the language |
| 03:36.21 | Arrowmaster | i dont remember the argument order so i cant verify |
| 03:36.31 | cbreak | it's not :) |
| 03:36.35 | cbreak | (language is third) |
| 03:36.42 | awweaver | Yes that is, i want them to be able to read the msg so its going to default to orcish or w/e the alliance lang is |
| 03:37.11 | awweaver | SendChatMessage("msg" ,"chatType" ,"language" ,"channel"); |
| 03:37.15 | cbreak | you use the exotic language "Whisper" |
| 03:37.24 | cbreak | I don't speak whisper, so I wouldn't understand it |
| 03:38.20 | Arrowmaster | this shouldnt effect your current problem, but lua counts from 1 not 0, so your for loop is always checking a non existant field first |
| 03:38.24 | awweaver | heres the page i need |
| 03:38.27 | awweaver | http://www.wowwiki.com/ChatTypeId |
| 03:38.45 | awweaver | fixd |
| 03:39.54 | awweaver | ok this should fix the line |
| 03:39.55 | awweaver | SendChatMessage(sender.." IS ON THE JERKLIST", "WHISPER" ,(nil) , "WHISPER", UnitName("player")) |
| 03:40.00 | cbreak | no |
| 03:40.14 | cbreak | why do you want to send it to the player "WHISPER"? |
| 03:40.23 | cbreak | did that poor guy harass you in his past life? |
| 03:40.27 | awweaver | i dont want everyone else to know.. |
| 03:40.51 | awweaver | sigh... |
| 03:40.55 | Arrowmaster | i need a list of answers for these review questions in this MCSE 70-299 book, these questions suck, too many multiple choice questions with 'select all that apply' |
| 03:41.36 | awweaver | read this.... http://wowuidev.pastey.net/131873 it explains the use of my addon |
| 03:41.44 | cbreak | Arrowmaster: tip: Consider the answers bits in a bit field. The end result should be ASCII encoded string "MICROSOFT SUCKS" |
| 03:42.00 | cbreak | awweaver: the problem is your code, not my understanding :) |
| 03:42.14 | awweaver | .... |
| 03:42.15 | cbreak | what do you do if there's no player with the name "WHISPER"? |
| 03:42.40 | Dagmar | Arrowmaster: Write in "Only the Microsoft way applies" |
| 03:42.43 | Dagmar | They'll dig that |
| 03:42.50 | Legorol|alt | i'll put it slightly less mysteriously than cbreak: you messed up the order/type of the arguments to SendChatMessage |
| 03:42.58 | cbreak | ... spoiler... |
| 03:42.59 | awweaver | the player name is the UnitName("player")... |
| 03:43.15 | cbreak | you tell the API to send the whispers to "WHISPER" |
| 03:43.25 | cbreak | not UnitName"player" |
| 03:43.25 | Legorol|alt | in http://wowuidev.pastey.net/131872 at least, you got text, nil, "WHISPER", name as arguments, which is the wrong order |
| 03:43.34 | Arrowmaster | awweaver: no in your code that is the 5th argument, the whisper destination is supposed to be the 4th argument |
| 03:44.03 | cbreak | what's why I asked why you wanted to send all whispers to "WHISPER" |
| 03:44.17 | cbreak | he'd just report users of your addon for harassing |
| 03:44.19 | Legorol|alt | awweaver: you want SendChatMessage("sometexttosend", "WHISPER", nil, "nameofplayer") |
| 03:44.26 | awweaver | well ur answer was cryptic i didnt see past it... |
| 03:44.32 | Legorol|alt | oh and ignore cbreak, he is trolling |
| 03:44.38 | cbreak | never! |
| 03:44.48 | cbreak | my answers just require a basic level of interpretation |
| 03:44.51 | Legorol|alt | although he is entirely correct in what he says/asks, he is also cofusing |
| 03:44.58 | cbreak | I could do worse in OracleOfDelphi mode |
| 03:45.05 | Legorol|alt | rofl |
| 03:45.40 | Legorol|alt | anyway, now that i spoiled cbreak's fun and starved the troll, you should have your ansswer |
| 03:45.41 | awweaver | ok fixd... |
| 03:45.56 | awweaver | realoading now |
| 03:46.07 | Legorol|alt | btw cbreak: i'm not sorry. i had my fun by destroying yours :P |
| 03:46.19 | awweaver | Hopefully ill have this thing working soon |
| 03:46.20 | cbreak | no worries, you didn't destroy it |
| 03:46.22 | Jerub | also, Rankwatch is awesome. |
| 03:46.32 | Legorol|alt | cbreak: damn |
| 03:47.06 | Thunder_Child | Legorol|alt: you can only mess with a troll by frustrating them so much they leave |
| 03:47.06 | awweaver | sigh an 8 min flight from sillithus |
| 03:47.19 | awweaver | to org |
| 03:47.26 | Thunder_Child | either by ignoring them or talking gibberish |
| 03:47.31 | cbreak | that's why being a mage rocks. |
| 03:47.59 | Legorol|alt | the other day, 3 of us joined random LFD. after we joined, 2 mates came on who wanted to join us. |
| 03:48.25 | Legorol|alt | we systematically set about causing the 2 randoms currently in our group to leave, since they still had the DF debuff and we couldn't kick them |
| 03:48.28 | Legorol|alt | we succeeded |
| 03:48.54 | cbreak | by asking them to leave? |
| 03:49.00 | Legorol|alt | that didn't work |
| 03:49.05 | cbreak | begging? |
| 03:49.06 | Legorol|alt | the healer was very resilient |
| 03:49.12 | cbreak | he's a healer... |
| 03:49.19 | cbreak | if he weren't he'd be dps :) |
| 03:49.20 | Legorol|alt | no surprise though, i was tanking with 5.6k GS, and he had 3.8k GS, so a boost for him |
| 03:50.03 | Arrowmaster | but you cant do heroics without a 6k GS.... |
| 03:50.14 | Legorol|alt | to be fair, we did do it fairly... we did pull mobs and did kill them |
| 03:50.19 | Legorol|alt | Arrowmaster: i got lucky |
| 03:51.21 | Legorol|alt | speaking of killling.. for some reason this little custom developed in our guild |
| 03:51.28 | Legorol|alt | us tanks are supposed to kill our warlocks |
| 03:51.37 | Legorol|alt | but it only counts if we kill ONLY the warlock and noone else |
| 03:51.53 | Arrowmaster | sorry not unique |
| 03:51.53 | tem | Legorol|alt, are you a night elf, by chance? |
| 03:51.55 | Thunder_Child | our locks kill themselvs |
| 03:52.07 | Legorol|alt | Arrowmaster: i know, but it only took off lately for us |
| 03:52.17 | kd3 | grr. damn spell reflectors in FoS |
| 03:52.21 | Legorol|alt | i'm currently the record holder by having killed one of our locks 6 times in random heroic |
| 03:52.25 | Legorol|alt | noone else suffered |
| 03:52.38 | Legorol|alt | tem, im not |
| 03:52.43 | Arrowmaster | i was playing 'dodge the tank while trying to hellfire during a wipe' years ago |
| 03:52.47 | Legorol|alt | oh and the healer does heal them, that's part of the game |
| 03:53.19 | Thunder_Child | heh kd3, i'm not sure whats worse. that when i am a caster, or that when i am a healer. |
| 03:54.01 | kd3 | I typically just put up living bomb and ice lance them to death |
| 03:54.14 | kd3 | I'm tired of killing myself on the first pull |
| 03:54.21 | Legorol|alt | kd3: don't those mobs come in pairs? ever thought of switching target? :P |
| 03:54.37 | kd3 | only so much I can do when they put it up right as I finish a cast |
| 03:54.40 | Thunder_Child | Legorol|alt: it's always the first one you target |
| 03:54.48 | Thunder_Child | murphy ftw |
| 03:55.05 | Legorol|alt | kd3: are you implying you are capable of oneshotting yourself from full hp? |
| 03:55.27 | kd3 | no. it'd take 2 back-to-back crits' |
| 03:55.31 | kd3 | which... has happened |
| 03:55.35 | Legorol|alt | then it's your fault |
| 03:55.38 | Arrowmaster | i used to oneshot myself |
| 03:55.38 | Legorol|alt | why cast the 2nd spell |
| 03:55.46 | Arrowmaster | on other mobs that did that |
| 03:56.35 | Legorol|alt | gnight peeps |
| 03:56.43 | kd3 | because it's usually ffb, tab, ffb, tab |
| 03:56.45 | awweaver | Sigh it done worlk... |
| 03:56.47 | kd3 | and he's already gone |
| 03:58.08 | ScytheBlade1 | bah, why doesn't pastey support powershell syntax highlighting :/ |
| 03:59.04 | Lopeppeppy | sheer hate |
| 03:59.27 | Dagmar | Same reason mechanics don't really bother to say much about whether or not they can fix tonka trucks |
| 04:00.03 | ScytheBlade1 | Lopeppeppy: possibly |
| 04:00.16 | ScytheBlade1 | http://pastey.net/131875 for instance |
| 04:00.22 | ScytheBlade1 | no option for powershell in the dropdown :/ |
| 04:00.24 | Arrowmaster | ok i now have proof these review questions are crap |
| 04:00.27 | ScytheBlade1 | so no tab display :/ |
| 04:00.34 | Arrowmaster | the same exact question is listed twice |
| 04:01.04 | Arrowmaster | i was starting to think something was wrong when a few of these are asking about stuff i dont see anywhere at all in the chapter |
| 04:03.01 | Lopeppeppy | Okie dokie, the movie ended all happy feelgood, everyone's moving to Africa! Time for me to put the cat to bed and get some sleep too. Night guys! |
| 04:04.42 | tem | I love AN so much |
| 04:04.53 | tem | 7 minutes from queue to frost emblems |
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| 05:02.04 | Jerub | tem: I hate CoS so much. |
| 05:02.17 | Jerub | tem: 6 minutes from queue to first combat. |
| 05:02.55 | Jerub | I like to think of CoS as the gearcheck heroic. |
| 05:03.18 | Jerub | because everyone gets in, waits for arthas's fat arse, and checks out everyone else's gear. |
| 05:04.29 | Thunder_Child | you however seem to be checking out arthas's ass |
| 05:05.19 | WobWork | he has stupid hair |
| 05:05.21 | kdtresh | and apparently you two are obsessed, since i never even noticed arthas's ass |
| 05:05.34 | WobWork | watch it when he runs |
| 05:05.39 | WobWork | it's the worst animated hair in history |
| 05:06.29 | Jerub | http://jwz.livejournal.com/1162215.html |
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| 07:47.46 | Jerub | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQ |
| 07:49.02 | Recluse | Could anyone assist me in figuring out why this creates buttons which are just clones of ActionButton1-12 with their correct icons and tooltips? http://pastey.net/131880 |
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| 08:21.15 | Adys | Shadowed: ping |
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| 08:36.21 | Adys | http://paste2.org/p/631359 anyone has any idea whats wrong with that? |
| 08:36.24 | Adys | when I try to build vlc |
| 08:36.50 | Arrowmaster | Recluse: is that just moving the ActionButton1-12? |
| 08:38.04 | Arrowmaster | Adys: did it come with a readme that said how to compile it? |
| 08:38.41 | Adys | ive been compiling vlc for a year, this stuff started when I upgraded to lucid |
| 08:39.14 | Recluse | Arrowmaster: It makes 4 frames, 2x6 button layout for 4 different action bars |
| 08:39.48 | Recluse | the buttons and icons show in the right place, but if you click any but the first bar, the first bar's buttons get clicked instead |
| 08:40.57 | Arrowmaster | imho create your own buttons |
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| 08:41.35 | Recluse | yeah, just wanted to keep the footprint down is all lol |
| 08:42.11 | Arrowmaster | trying to fuck with parts of the default ui is always asking for trouble |
| 08:42.20 | Recluse | hehe |
| 08:43.15 | Arrowmaster | and imho nobody should ever attempt it unless they have actually gone through the code for the default ui themselves |
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| 08:43.42 | Arrowmaster | so many things are effected by other minor things in major ways |
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| 09:08.02 | ZorbaTHut | I do some really gorgeous black magic to the achievements frame to modify it with questhelper-related stuff. my god their implementation is wacky |
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| 09:18.44 | mikma | http://www.geekologie.com/2010/01/seizure_inducing_an_interactiv.php |
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| 09:28.13 | Adys | http://www.darklegacycomics.com/222.html |
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| 10:03.31 | Wobin | http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/22002764/detail.html# |
| 10:03.33 | Wobin | woah |
| 10:14.59 | Wobin | oh yay |
| 10:15.12 | Wobin | ff3.6 actually puts new tabs from links next to the current tab |
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| 10:46.48 | Shirik | tornado warning |
| 10:46.54 | Shirik | at 5:46 |
| 10:46.55 | Shirik | what |
| 10:47.08 | zenzio | tornados don't care about the clock |
| 10:47.16 | Shirik | emergency broadcast system was actually useful |
| 10:47.23 | Shirik | surprising |
| 10:48.06 | Shirik | I thought tornado warning meant the tornado had already touched down? |
| 10:48.14 | Shirik | But the instructions state to "not wait until the tornado has developed" |
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| 10:52.10 | Shirik | eh, looks like it's north of me |
| 10:52.22 | Shirik | this is BS I just want to go to sleep |
| 11:15.54 | Industrial | is glad he doesnt live in an area where there are tornados and tidal waves and etc |
| 11:16.06 | Industrial | however if the sea rises another bit half the country will flood. |
| 11:16.10 | Industrial | xD |
| 11:19.28 | Shirik | ~weather kdab |
| 11:19.41 | Shirik | yeah it's not really here yet... |
| 11:19.55 | Industrial | ~help weather |
| 11:20.01 | Shirik | storm is moving at 60 mph |
| 11:20.08 | Shirik | winds gusting just as high |
| 11:20.31 | Shirik | and you know what, fuck the weather channel |
| 11:21.00 | Shirik | they're all like "Daytona beach international airport, technically you're outside of the warning area, but we're seeing rotation develop in your area so you'd better be on guard anyway" |
| 11:21.09 | Shirik | I basically live right off the airport |
| 11:21.13 | Shirik | I think they don't want me to go to sleep :( |
| 11:21.43 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
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| 11:33.32 | Shirik | slaps Fisker around a bit with a large tornado |
| 11:41.43 | Adys | http://db.mmo-champion.com/adys/IR_WalkG_01.mp3 |
| 11:41.52 | Adys | only me thinking this is straight out of eve online with choirs on top? |
| 11:45.35 | Fisker | dunno but you disconnected me from my server |
| 11:47.18 | Shirik | what exactly is a knot? |
| 11:47.32 | zenzio | in what context? |
| 11:47.48 | Shirik | DAB 251136Z 28014G28KT 6SM -RA BR FEW012 BKN029 OVC075 17/15 A2977 RMK AO2 PK WND 27028/1131 WSHFT 1120 RAB18 PRESRR P0001 |
| 11:47.51 | Shirik | er |
| 11:48.04 | Shirik | 14 knots gusting to 28 knots |
| 11:48.05 | Shirik | that |
| 11:48.09 | Fisker | http://www.google.dk/search?hl=da&source=hp&q=28+knot+in+mph&btnG=Google-s%C3%B8gning&meta=&aq=f&oq= |
| 11:48.09 | zenzio | speed |
| 11:48.11 | Fisker | l2google |
| 11:48.15 | Shirik | I know that |
| 11:48.15 | Shirik | but |
| 11:48.19 | Shirik | what IS a knot |
| 11:48.23 | Shirik | like why do we use that and not mph |
| 11:48.28 | zenzio | nautical mostly |
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| 11:48.51 | Shirik | oh shit, storm's definitely here now |
| 11:49.37 | Shirik | too bad they only do updates on weather at the 36s |
| 11:49.52 | Shirik | maybe I could tune to ATIS |
| 11:50.50 | krka | i suspect Shirik is the only one on irc who doesn't use it for dialogues :) |
| 11:51.00 | Shirik | I have dialogues |
| 11:51.05 | Shirik | I just have them with myself |
| 11:51.15 | zenzio | so you have a split personality |
| 11:51.21 | krka | isn't the roundtrip through irc a bit redundant? |
| 11:52.08 | Adys | [13:48:23] <@Shirik> like why do we use that and not mph |
| 11:52.10 | Adys | Haha. |
| 11:52.11 | zenzio | he needs the latency so he has time to think through his aruments |
| 11:52.24 | zenzio | +g |
| 11:52.29 | Adys | Shirik: maybe now you know how the entire world feels about america's shitty units :P |
| 11:53.22 | Shirik | anyone know METAR? |
| 11:54.15 | Shirik | ah well,I'm gonna go to sleep |
| 11:54.23 | Adys | night |
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| 12:02.30 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: knot = nautical mile per hour |
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| 12:03.05 | Arrowmaster | "The nautical mile (symbol M, NM, Nm or nmi) is a unit of length corresponding approximately to one minute of arc of latitude along any meridian." |
| 12:03.22 | zenzio | if I remember correctly, that's about 1859 meters or so? |
| 12:03.42 | Arrowmaster | 1852 |
| 12:05.21 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: basic reason, linear scale sucks when working with charts and maps that cover a large distance due to distortion in the maps |
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| 12:19.48 | Taroven | haste: Latest oUF zip on wowi is zero bytes. |
| 12:20.09 | cbreak | Sub-entropy compression! OMG! |
| 12:20.22 | Industrial | Arrowmaster: "one minute of arc" ? time? if you measure distance by time dont you need speed? :P or am I just being dumb again |
| 12:20.24 | Taroven | XD |
| 12:20.54 | cbreak | arc minutes are a unit of angle |
| 12:20.55 | Arrowmaster | Industrial: 'per hour' |
| 12:21.06 | Industrial | cbreak: ah :p |
| 12:21.44 | Arrowmaster | Industrial: you must not watch enough american action movies where they read off gps coords |
| 12:21.51 | cbreak | 60 arc minutes in a arc degree, 60 arc seconds in an arc minute. |
| 12:22.53 | Arrowmaster | i only know that because of hollywood |
| 12:22.59 | Industrial | 'minute' just seems weird because the next thing I asked myself was 'a minute of what?' |
| 12:23.11 | cbreak | minute of arc :) |
| 12:23.15 | cbreak | we had to use that in school |
| 12:23.26 | cbreak | probably to annoy us/prepare us for rad :) |
| 12:24.11 | cbreak | Children: "That's stupid! 60 minutes in a °?". Teacher: "Yes! That's why everyone else uses radians" |
| 12:24.27 | ZorbaTHut | I wonder how many unit pairs there are with the same name where "X per X" is not a ratio. |
| 12:24.32 | cbreak | (I think in the end we just used degrees with decimal point :) |
| 12:24.40 | ZorbaTHut | "minutes per minute", for example, as a description of arc per time |
| 12:24.52 | ZorbaTHut | or "pounds per pound" as currency per force :D |
| 12:25.01 | Industrial | lol |
| 12:25.04 | krka | where is pound force? |
| 12:25.09 | krka | i've never heard that |
| 12:25.12 | cbreak | in the US |
| 12:25.23 | Arrowmaster | more commonly weight |
| 12:25.36 | ZorbaTHut | aren't force and weight pretty much the same thing in terms of unit? |
| 12:25.37 | cbreak | usually meant as force a mass has due to gravitational accelleration. |
| 12:25.39 | Arrowmaster | but weight does not equal mass which is what everybody else uses |
| 12:25.43 | cbreak | no |
| 12:25.47 | haste | Taroven: wth |
| 12:25.59 | Industrial | haste/0 |
| 12:26.20 | Arrowmaster | and ive used pounds as a measure of force a lot |
| 12:26.24 | cbreak | well. Actually. |
| 12:26.25 | haste | Taroven: and fixed |
| 12:26.30 | cbreak | Newton's the true force unit |
| 12:26.34 | Taroven | haste: Awesome. ^_^ |
| 12:26.36 | ZorbaTHut | fun fact - google calculator actually supports three separate definitions of pound: currency, force, and mass |
| 12:26.37 | Arrowmaster | its how we measured bow strength in archery |
| 12:26.52 | cbreak | but when europeans talk about weight, we usually don't mean weight, we mean mass |
| 12:26.53 | ZorbaTHut | the "mass" version exists solely so people can convert pounds to kilograms, and vice-versa, easily. |
| 12:26.56 | cbreak | so it's a bit confusing |
| 12:27.40 | ZorbaTHut | end result: http://www.google.com/#q=one+pound+pound+pound+in+dollar+kilogram+newtons |
| 12:27.51 | Arrowmaster | 60lbs is the max for a compound bow to be allowed in a tournament, 40lbs is how much my recurve bow as at before i stopped shooting |
| 12:28.04 | Taroven | haste: Question on the experimental vehicle support. Does this mean party/raid bars now switch to vehicle when appropriate? |
| 12:28.18 | Taroven | haste: Or am I completely misreading the changelog? |
| 12:28.19 | cbreak | what's lbs? |
| 12:28.23 | Arrowmaster | pounds |
| 12:28.29 | Arrowmaster | yes its weird |
| 12:28.30 | cbreak | £? |
| 12:28.33 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 12:28.33 | mikma | mmm, waterhygiene-exam. lovely |
| 12:28.41 | cbreak | the weight one then |
| 12:28.41 | Arrowmaster | as in force or weight |
| 12:28.56 | ZorbaTHut | (other tricks: http://www.google.com/#q=0.140625+square+feet+in+inch+nails ) |
| 12:29.12 | haste | Taroven: it isn't experimental anymore :P |
| 12:29.26 | Taroven | haste: Woot. Anything special I need to do? |
| 12:29.33 | haste | it's been tested and tweaked for a couple of weeks now |
| 12:29.33 | cbreak | interesting fact: Acelleration due to earth's gravity is not constant over the surface of the earth |
| 12:29.39 | Taroven | Awesomeness. |
| 12:29.41 | ZorbaTHut | (there's actually an explicit exception to keep it from automatically interpreting "nine inch nails" as a calculator unit conversion, though it wouldn't do that anymore anyway) |
| 12:29.46 | haste | Taroven: it switches by itself, as it should |
| 12:29.53 | Taroven | haste: Sheer win, thankies. |
| 12:29.56 | haste | Taroven: unless it's disabled by the frame |
| 12:30.05 | Arrowmaster | btw a 40lbs recurve bow is not easy to handle at all, i highly doubt most of you could fully pull it back without knowing how |
| 12:30.27 | cbreak | Am I allowed to use ropes and wheels? |
| 12:30.31 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 12:30.50 | cbreak | ... :( |
| 12:32.01 | Arrowmaster | seriously i havent shoot since 2003 maybe but i can still remember how much it hurt to pull that thing back wrong |
| 12:32.44 | Fisker | you wouldn't kill a Fisker haste |
| 12:32.47 | Fisker | ok? |
| 12:33.09 | haste | but I would accidently all over it one! |
| 12:37.13 | Fisker | but you wouldn't haste |
| 12:37.33 | haste | but I would |
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| 13:49.34 | zenzio | tickles Lopeppeppy |
| 13:51.29 | Lopeppeppy | Morning dear. |
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| 13:52.20 | Fisker | tackles Lopeppeppy |
| 13:52.29 | Fisker | tickling is weak zenzio |
| 13:52.43 | zenzio | tickling is foreplay |
| 13:52.46 | Lopeppeppy | ^ |
| 13:52.51 | Cairenn|afk | ^^ |
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| 14:06.27 | Fisker | slaps zenzio around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:16.38 | jnwhiteh | reload> |
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| 14:23.57 | Fisker | reload indeed |
| 14:24.09 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/snow5.jpg |
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| 14:25.09 | Fisker | btw jnwhiteh |
| 14:25.17 | Fisker | gotten a bill for the VAT yet? |
| 14:27.10 | Lopeppeppy | mikma, around here that would get you a traffic ticket in a hurry! |
| 14:27.44 | olafski | here too.. I would hope anywhere :) |
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| 14:29.31 | mikma | lopeppeppy: same applies here |
| 14:31.11 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: I haven't checked today, but no. |
| 14:31.41 | Fisker | kek |
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| 14:42.36 | Cairenn|afk | drives me crazy when people don't clear their cars off (basically completely) - that picture is just omfg ridiculous |
| 14:44.20 | Industrial | woop done for today |
| 14:44.26 | Industrial | short days ftw |
| 14:46.09 | zenzio | isn't it basically illegal to drive like that? |
| 14:47.46 | Lopeppeppy | Ya. |
| 14:47.50 | Lopeppeppy | Doesn't stop the retards from doing it. |
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| 14:51.02 | Cairenn|afk | the other ones I just love (sarcasm) are the ones that don't clear their windows - they'll have the snow cleared off maybe 1/2 of the front windshield (driver's side), and just this little 2" circle of ice scraped off in the middle of that, nothing cleared off the back or sides, or the roof, or the lights .... |
| 14:51.15 | Lopeppeppy | Oh god, that drives me insane! |
| 14:51.37 | Lopeppeppy | And in NY, it's illegal to have your license plate obscured, so some will wipe that off, but not their back window... |
| 14:51.43 | Cairenn|afk | they can't see, and because they haven't cleared off their roof, it all blows off onto your windshield |
| 14:51.47 | Cairenn|afk | yeah |
| 14:52.12 | Cairenn|afk | basically - people are morons :p |
| 14:52.19 | Lopeppeppy | In MA, I had a tractor trailer's worth of roof snow blow off onto my car, I wound up in the ditch. I was soooo not happy. |
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| 14:52.32 | Cairenn|afk | I'd be pissed |
| 14:52.45 | Lopeppeppy | They have some small excuse, they can't really get up there. But I'm 5'1", and I can do off the top of an SUV, so can anyone else. |
| 14:52.53 | Cairenn|afk | yep |
| 14:53.15 | Cairenn|afk | same here |
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| 15:15.56 | Kaso | I bloody hate less rabi |
| 15:16.09 | olafski | :) |
| 15:16.12 | olafski | me too, still don't have it :P |
| 15:16.19 | Kaso | for several days on the trot we've had an interrupt miss at like 5% and dots killed him |
| 15:16.43 | Kaso | i wouldn't mind if it was like most other achievements where you can retry them after you fuck up, without having to wait for a new lock |
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| 15:20.33 | Lopeppeppy | All achievements are not created equal, that's for sure. |
| 15:21.58 | Kaso | in other news, we did ruby/emerald void last night, man thats easy nowadays. i remember trying that pre-ulduar and it was much harder. |
| 15:22.30 | Kaso | or pre-that patch that made the mounts scale for the first time, i think that was the ulduar patch? i dont remeber |
| 15:23.50 | Kaso | no it was the patch after, ulduar patch just had the flame leth vehicles scaling didnt it |
| 15:23.57 | Kaso | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:27.46 | Cruciformer | Afternoon all |
| 15:30.37 | Cruciformer | the documentation for GetCursorPosition() states that it returns the "scale-independent" x and Y co-ordinates. If I wanted to pop up a menu at the cursor position, can I just use frame:SetPoint ("TOPLEFT", UIParent, "TOPLEFT", x, -y), where x and y are the return value from GetCursorPosition()? |
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| 15:31.04 | Cruciformer | Or do I have to get the UI scale and multiply x and y by it? |
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| 15:32.10 | Cruciformer | hey cknight ... mind if I repeat a question I just asked? I figure you will know the answer. |
| 15:32.46 | Cruciformer | or was that an auto-join? :) |
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| 15:34.26 | Kaso | Cruciformer: wowwiki seems to suggest you should apply scale |
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| 15:34.42 | Cruciformer | Ksao: ok thank you sir. |
| 15:34.49 | Kaso | To apply scale, divide both x and y by the value returned by UIParent:GetEffectiveScale() |
| 15:34.57 | Kaso | also "The coordinates returned by this use BOTTOMLEFT as the origin, not TOPLEFT. This means [0, 0] is the exact bottom-left point on the screen." |
| 15:35.20 | Cruciformer | the co-ords returned by GetCursorPosition? |
| 15:35.39 | Kaso | yes |
| 15:35.56 | Kaso | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_GetCursorPosition |
| 15:36.08 | Cruciformer | so :SetPoint ('BOTTOMLEFT', UIParent, 'BOTTOMLEFT', -scaled_x, scaled_y)? |
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| 15:37.17 | Kaso | you prob want to have some logic to make sure you menu isnt rendered off-screen if the mouse is close to and of the edges |
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| 15:38.46 | Cruciformer | yeah I already have that logic for other purposes, I will adapt it to deal with this case. |
| 15:42.42 | Fisker | slaps Kaso around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:42.44 | Fisker | oops |
| 15:42.50 | Kaso | lol |
| 15:43.09 | Fisker | you think that's funny Kaso? |
| 15:46.23 | Kaso | fat fingers on right-click menu i presume? |
| 15:46.31 | Kaso | somewhat amusing |
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| 15:57.17 | Fisker | no |
| 15:57.28 | Fisker | i slapped you for my own leizure and tried to cover it up stating it was a mistake |
| 16:01.09 | nicoli_s | fisker? sc2 infos? |
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| 16:21.09 | Gnarfoz | anyone have experience with StartSSL in here? |
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| 16:22.12 | Zizanzu | Hello someone interesting in joining as dev in TriviaBot? |
| 16:22.53 | olafski | zomg it's gnar-"first version"-oz! |
| 16:22.57 | olafski | foz* sorry |
| 16:23.58 | olafski | alright I'll stop being annoying again ;) |
| 16:24.07 | Torhal | LIES! |
| 16:24.24 | olafski | yeah true.. but I'll stop for the next 60 minutes or so |
| 16:24.34 | olafski | gotta make dinner and such;) |
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| 16:26.59 | Thunder_Child | oh there is infos nicoli_s, and it's coming soon. but Fisker dosent know what it is. |
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| 16:35.29 | nicoli_s | lol |
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| 16:49.56 | Gnarfoz | olafski: oO what |
| 16:52.21 | olafski | gnarfoz: you've made over a 100 commits saying "first version" to both your libsnowflake and your splitter projects |
| 16:52.31 | Gnarfoz | what |
| 16:52.33 | olafski | oh jebus |
| 16:52.37 | olafski | that's Grayal, not Gnarfoz >_< |
| 16:52.39 | Gnarfoz | you're confusing me with someone |
| 16:52.40 | olafski | sorry! |
| 16:52.41 | nevcairiel | olafski cant read names |
| 16:52.52 | Gnarfoz | should've stayed 8tImER |
| 16:52.53 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
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| 16:59.21 | Lunessa | station |
| 17:00.30 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, Lunessa. |
| 17:00.54 | Lunessa | Morning indeed. |
| 17:00.59 | Cairenn|afk | hi Lunessa |
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| 17:01.25 | Lunessa | huggles Lopeppeppy, Cairenn|afk, and Seerah|away. |
| 17:01.34 | durcyn | so screen breaks mouse support with utf8 turned on |
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| 17:28.44 | Shirik | woah that's cool |
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| 17:29.16 | nicoli_s | ? |
| 17:29.27 | Shirik | did that work? |
| 17:29.58 | Shirik | I'll take that as a no |
| 17:30.16 | Shirik | Apparently ircd-seven allows you to send a message to channel that is only visible to voiced/opped users |
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| 17:31.45 | Lopeppeppy | I think it didn't work right, if it's supposed to show for voiced people. |
| 17:31.57 | Shirik | wait |
| 17:32.02 | Shirik | you didn't get it but jnwhiteh did o.o |
| 17:32.09 | Lopeppeppy | He's ops. |
| 17:32.21 | Shirik | I think hyperion does something different, lol |
| 17:32.24 | Lopeppeppy | So you can be all private-like with yer ops. |
| 17:32.28 | nevcairiel | you do realize that not all servers updated to seven yet, right? :D |
| 17:32.56 | nevcairiel | msgs to ops-only have been in different irc daemons for a while |
| 17:33.19 | Lopeppeppy | Maybe my salt circle and holy water sprinkling keeps the daemons away |
| 17:33.20 | nevcairiel | voice usually isnt included in that, though |
| 17:33.33 | Shirik | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 17:34.22 | Lopeppeppy | you apparently aren't allergic to holy saltwater. :) |
| 17:34.35 | Shirik | not Lopeppeppy's holy saltwater |
| 17:35.13 | Shirik | also, fear me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm2IQ0y2J0Q |
| 17:35.42 | Lopeppeppy | sometimes I'm glad i can't have audio at work. |
| 17:35.54 | Shirik | heh |
| 17:36.04 | nicoli_s | aww i feel for ya Lopeppeppy, my headphones just broke so i cant enjoy audio at work either |
| 17:36.34 | haste | Shirik: at least post some decent vocaloid! |
| 17:36.41 | Shirik | rofl |
| 17:36.54 | Lopeppeppy | nicoli_s, I have a Grand Boss of Greater Evil, it is forbidden to listen. |
| 17:37.28 | haste | Shirik: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7iDI8LUKEw&fmt=35 you know, like this |
| 17:37.36 | Shirik | no I have a good one |
| 17:38.35 | Shirik | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdXgoIjS7UM |
| 17:38.51 | Lopeppeppy | No, you. |
| 17:39.00 | Shirik | oh I've seen that one before haste |
| 17:39.20 | Shirik | it's good |
| 17:39.59 | haste | Shirik: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHcIBoYWBVs a challenger appears! |
| 17:40.11 | haste | ah damn, incorrect version it seems |
| 17:40.12 | zenzelezz | no u |
| 17:40.31 | Lopeppeppy | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qItugh-fFgg *serious nod* |
| 17:40.32 | Shirik | TKO |
| 17:40.33 | Shirik | I win |
| 17:40.48 | haste | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4jkxXyCBgs thar |
| 17:42.15 | zenzelezz | be dragons? |
| 17:45.16 | Shirik | disappears |
| 17:46.04 | Fisker | farts Shirik |
| 17:46.52 | zenzelezz | that sounds painful |
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| 18:06.19 | Lopeppeppy | I seriously need a unicorn chaser for this craptastic Monday. Anyone have one? |
| 18:07.00 | durcyn | here you go, peppy. http://www.themovieblog.com/2007/11/harold-and-kumar-2-poster |
| 18:07.27 | Lopeppeppy | It is a unicorn, you are correct. I do not understand what it means, bu it is a universe. |
| 18:07.51 | durcyn | uni..verse? |
| 18:08.10 | durcyn | it's Neil Patrick Harris, ma'am. |
| 18:08.19 | durcyn | aka Doogie Fucking Houser? |
| 18:08.38 | Lunessa | aka Barney Stinson. |
| 18:09.08 | Lopeppeppy | I just assumed there was some meaning for the Harold and Kumar movie that I didn't get. |
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| 18:09.19 | durcyn | just his cameo |
| 18:13.16 | theorbtwo | Wasn't so much a cameo. |
| 18:13.31 | theorbtwo | I think he qualifies as a supporing character in that. |
| 18:13.39 | Seerah | huggles Lunessa |
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| 18:34.08 | Lunessa | I'm fixing a hole where the rain gets in, and stops my mind from wandering where it will go. |
| 18:35.28 | Lopeppeppy | The fog crept in on little cat feet |
| 18:39.15 | zenzelezz | if fog is all your cat drags in, you're lucky |
| 18:39.21 | zenzelezz | we get mud and other fun stuffs |
| 18:40.15 | Lunessa | like mice and moles? |
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| 18:49.06 | kdtresh | my parents' cat would bring in wounded mice and play with them |
| 18:49.46 | Lunessa | You know, now I have an idea for a poem based on the idea of cats dragging in fog... |
| 18:49.47 | kdtresh | batting them around, leaving trails of blood |
| 18:50.52 | zenzelezz | our cat does that with birds |
| 18:51.05 | zenzelezz | quite a mess of feathers |
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| 18:54.16 | Lunessa | I had one do it with mice. He'd bite the heads off then get sick. |
| 18:54.53 | zenzelezz | previous ones (and this one occasionally) would do mice, small worms, butterflies... anything fun that moved |
| 18:55.09 | zenzelezz | then wonder why my mom was screaming when she tried to hand it over |
| 18:55.55 | Lunessa | I had a cat (same as above) named Prince Albert (go ahead, laugh. I'll wait.) who used to try to teach me how to hunt mice. |
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| 18:58.42 | Lopeppeppy | Aww, that's love. |
| 18:59.02 | Lopeppeppy | I had a cat who would bring home half dead snakes to teach us how it was done. Pre-teen girls do not appreciate half-dead snakes in their beds. |
| 19:01.19 | Lunessa | Haha |
| 19:01.42 | zenzelezz | my snake, let me show you it |
| 19:01.45 | Lopeppeppy | Bright stars. I hate it when something goes wrong and everysheeple calls me while I'm filling out the help desk ticket. *mutter hate grumble* |
| 19:01.49 | Lopeppeppy | Zenzelezz, not in public. |
| 19:01.55 | nevcairiel | thats what you get for living in an area that actually has snakes |
| 19:02.12 | Lunessa | Every area actually has snakes. |
| 19:02.26 | theorbtwo | Not if they have enough cats! |
| 19:02.27 | Lopeppeppy | ... nevcairiel, we couldn't take out the trash at night because we had friggin' BEARS! Snakes were... I can't even say how normal. |
| 19:02.44 | nevcairiel | move out of the freaking woods already =P |
| 19:03.13 | Lopeppeppy | ... no. I was a sad, depressed, unhappy Peppy when I lived in the same town as alestane. I hated it. A lot. |
| 19:03.25 | Lopeppeppy | I'd rather be eaten by a bear than attacked in the subway station. |
| 19:03.37 | Dagmar | alestane does that a lot, does he? |
| 19:03.44 | nevcairiel | The US sounds like a dark place |
| 19:04.08 | kdtresh | have you seen the president? |
| 19:04.11 | Lopeppeppy | nevcairiel, the cities are not safe, and that's a fact. I'd rather be unsafe with animals whose rules I understand. |
| 19:04.33 | nevcairiel | So its a fact, the US is a dark place |
| 19:04.37 | Lunessa | Now hold on a cotton-pickin' minute. |
| 19:04.48 | Thunder_Child | i think that was an invitation zenzelezz |
| 19:04.52 | nevcairiel | random muggings on the streets or in subway stations? very rare occurance here |
| 19:05.01 | theorbtwo | The US isn't that dark a place. It's a *paranoid* place. |
| 19:05.10 | Lunessa | No, it's no darker than most of the world, and in fact, a lot brighter/safer than a large portion of it. |
| 19:05.14 | Dagmar | ~theorbtwo++ |
| 19:05.29 | nevcairiel | Lunessa: i'm only counting civilized countrys here =P |
| 19:05.31 | Lopeppeppy | It's not paranoid when someone chases me with a knife... But yeah, Lunessa is right, there are lots of places much less safe. |
| 19:05.35 | Lunessa | nevcairiel It's rarer here than people would you believe. |
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| 19:06.05 | Lunessa | Movies and TV sell fear. It keeps you inside watching. |
| 19:06.05 | theorbtwo | Lopeppeppy: Have you actually been chased with a knife, or are you simply afraid of it? |
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| 19:06.23 | Dagmar | POliticians give fear away for free. |
| 19:06.38 | kdtresh | they build their legacies on it |
| 19:06.45 | nevcairiel | at least people are not paranoid around here then! and you don't hear about random acts of violence much, too |
| 19:06.58 | jnwhiteh | @augustl IRC is where hackers talk when they don't want to be overheard. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQ |
| 19:07.13 | Lunessa | nevcairiel: which country? |
| 19:07.22 | nevcairiel | jnwhiteh: the numb3rs thing? |
| 19:07.26 | nevcairiel | Lunessa: germany |
| 19:07.26 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 19:07.26 | Lunessa | jnwhiteh: and they speak L337 |
| 19:07.32 | Lopeppeppy | theorbtwo, been chased out of the Winchester Center T stop by a crazy guy in a yellow jacket carrying a knife. |
| 19:07.42 | Lunessa | nevcairiel: ROFL. Your country just export violence. |
| 19:07.54 | nevcairiel | export violence? |
| 19:08.02 | Lopeppeppy | "Here, have some" |
| 19:08.03 | nevcairiel | well as long as its not here anymore |
| 19:08.10 | theorbtwo | Lopeppeppy: Sorry, then. |
| 19:08.21 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5456439/italian-teen-stabs-father-over-fifa-2009 |
| 19:08.22 | Lopeppeppy | Least he didn't catch me, nu? |
| 19:08.25 | Dagmar | They keep it all in Manchester |
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| 19:17.28 | Fisker | yeah jnwhiteh it's genius |
| 19:17.42 | Fisker | using a protocol which doesn't use encryption |
| 19:17.46 | Fisker | it's so secure |
| 19:18.03 | nevcairiel | you can ssl to irc! |
| 19:19.04 | Fisker | sure |
| 19:25.38 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: I wonder how many people do that, not realizing it doesn't improve their security just one bit |
| 19:25.46 | Fisker | slaps Gnarfoz around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:28.25 | Gnarfoz | Lunessa: I, too, wonder what you meant by that oO |
| 19:30.13 | Dagmar | I'm going to resist the temptation to snark a face off |
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| 19:31.12 | Dagmar | The reasons to SSL to an IRC server are many, but the highlights are not letting people in your office/dorm/campus be able to listen in on your conversations easily, protecting your channel/bot passwords from local sniffing, protecting your irc server passwords from local sniffing, etc |
| 19:31.12 | nevcairiel | Gnarfoz: well at least private messages can, in theory, stay private .. if the receiver also uses ssl :d |
| 19:31.27 | Dagmar | It's not to keep your whole damn conversation secure, it's to keep the local assholes near you from listening in. |
| 19:31.29 | Gnarfoz | nevcairiel: if they are DCC |
| 19:31.33 | Gnarfoz | Dagmar: hahaha |
| 19:31.47 | nevcairiel | on ssl-enabled networks, the inter-server comm is also encrypted |
| 19:31.55 | Gnarfoz | yes, but do you know any? :P |
| 19:32.02 | Dagmar | Being one of the people who are a sizeable part of the REASON folks use ssl, yes, these uses are valid |
| 19:32.03 | Gnarfoz | (I know one, to be precise) |
| 19:32.05 | nevcairiel | freenode will once they switch to ircd-seven |
| 19:32.12 | Gnarfoz | oh don't be full of yourself again |
| 19:32.30 | Dagmar | Dude I used to break EFnet twice a week |
| 19:32.38 | Gnarfoz | you're not a reason anyone does anything, except maybe breathe, if you procreated already. |
| 19:32.43 | Dagmar | Right, whatever. |
| 19:32.55 | Dagmar | This is why you're ignorant. |
| 19:33.01 | Dagmar | Anyone who tries to tell you anything is clearly full of shit. |
| 19:33.05 | Dagmar | Good luck with that. |
| 19:33.20 | Gnarfoz | no, you're just exaggerating your importance ;-) |
| 19:33.30 | Dagmar | I wasn't saying a damn thing about my "importance". |
| 19:33.36 | theorbtwo | Oh, also, you can't sniff switched networks, or decently encrypted wifi from a normal endpoint. |
| 19:33.39 | Gnarfoz | <Dagmar> Being one of the people who are a sizeable part of the REASON folks use ssl, yes, these uses are valid <- you did. |
| 19:33.49 | durcyn | 7 year old girls break efnet, though, so |
| 19:33.59 | Dagmar | I'm saying I damn well hacked networks and sniffed traffic in order to snatch IRCop, bot, and channel keys/passwords rather frequently during the 90's |
| 19:33.59 | Gnarfoz | giggles |
| 19:34.02 | Thunder_Child | durcyn: there are no girls |
| 19:34.13 | Dagmar | An SSL connection from the client to the server puts a stop to that |
| 19:34.13 | Lopeppeppy | taps a foot. |
| 19:34.15 | Gnarfoz | Dagmar: I used sirc then, so? :\ |
| 19:34.18 | Thunder_Child | ~irc |
| 19:34.19 | purl | Welcome to IRC, where the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents. |
| 19:34.24 | Thunder_Child | ^ |
| 19:34.27 | Dagmar | Gnarfoz: Oh is that the reason you're a jackass now? |
| 19:34.44 | durcyn | also, you two really should get it over with and fuck |
| 19:34.47 | zenzelezz | holds onto peppy's foot |
| 19:34.55 | Gnarfoz | durcyn: would that be lesbian or gay, then? ;\ |
| 19:35.13 | Lopeppeppy | Can't tell from the smell alone. |
| 19:35.13 | Dagmar | durcyn: Sure. Where's the splintery plunger handle |
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| 19:36.06 | Kraps | i'm having trouble finding the hebrew term for a female goat |
| 19:36.22 | nicoli_s | goat? |
| 19:36.38 | Dagmar | is tempted to say something about Hebrews didn't feel it important enough to give female anythings names |
| 19:36.44 | Kraps | yeah |
| 19:37.11 | Thunder_Child | true enough Dagmar |
| 19:38.07 | Kraps | Dagmar: most biblical hebrew adds a couple of letters to the male term to get the feminine version |
| 19:38.56 | nevcairiel | http://strongsnumbers.com/hebrew/5795.htm <- female goat |
| 19:40.05 | Fisker | it's a goat |
| 19:40.43 | Kraps | i'm on a goat |
| 19:40.55 | Kraps | thanks nev |
| 19:40.57 | Dagmar | I thought most of the terms were genderless or masculine by default but it's not like I'm jewish so I've never bothered lookin' too closely at it either |
| 19:41.14 | nevcairiel | I just know how to google, fwiw |
| 19:41.43 | Kraps | you're right Dagmar, hence "biblical hebrew adds a couple of letters to the male term to get the feminine version" |
| 19:41.55 | Kraps | most of the time |
| 19:45.22 | Kraps | http://www.laits.utexas.edu/hebrew/heblang/bh/bhonline/grammar/gender.pdf |
| 19:46.58 | Dagmar | Intersting choice of examples there. Heh |
| 19:47.18 | Dagmar | I think I'd have been alarmed if "daughter" was under the masculine column |
| 19:47.30 | Kraps | lol |
| 19:51.12 | Kraps | ×× is son |
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| 19:55.53 | NeoTron | so a reality show where the winner... gets to be a game tester.. really? |
| 19:56.07 | NeoTron | http://www.penny-arcade.com/2010/1/25/ + the comic that goes with it |
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| 19:57.15 | durcyn | yeah, that's their shtick. |
| 19:57.21 | durcyn | because QA jobs are so rewarding |
| 19:58.46 | Neolithic02 | right |
| 19:59.08 | Neolithic02 | level 1 tech support is also high on the list of "rewarding" |
| 19:59.33 | kdtresh | just threw up in his mouth a little. |
| 19:59.47 | Neolithic02 | I rest my case... |
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| 20:06.47 | NeoTron | from what I have deducted, game testing jobs is approximately like game development jobs except paid less, more boring and typically very repetetive :P |
| 20:07.57 | nevcairiel | how is that like game development? :P |
| 20:08.23 | Dagmar | Maybe they get less upset about it if you come into work high |
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| 20:10.45 | Kraps | woot just got my hearing aid back, hearing in stereo is nice |
| 20:11.14 | Dagmar | Hearing in color is more fun |
| 20:11.42 | Kraps | that involves some kind of drugs i think |
| 20:12.21 | Neolithic02 | yes |
| 20:12.22 | Dagmar | The good kind |
| 20:12.24 | Neolithic02 | or blunt trauma |
| 20:12.30 | Neolithic02 | no pun intended |
| 20:13.07 | krka | NeoTron: yes, game testing is like game development, except you mostly do testing, instead of development |
| 20:14.54 | NeoTron | Neolithic02: game development is a fancy description of a modern day slave |
| 20:15.00 | NeoTron | err. nevcairiel even |
| 20:15.09 | NeoTron | so testers are bitches of slaves |
| 20:15.24 | Dagmar | This would change if testers were more likely to come into the office with a gun and start shooting pepole like they do in other professions that do that to their employees |
| 20:16.11 | NeoTron | I presume you saw this - http://tinyurl.com/y8ec3ah |
| 20:16.21 | Dagmar | I knew two guys who worked for Sega who'd been there a year and they were considered long-timers. |
| 20:16.27 | NeoTron | it's not exactly new per se, but "glad" to see the practice of "crunch time" for years still remains |
| 20:16.33 | NeoTron | makes me happier to not work as a game developer.. :P |
| 20:16.36 | Dagmar | I was like, wow, that's almost as high a turnover rate as telemarketing |
| 20:17.40 | Dagmar | Running people like that is crap. If you want a company to really work you want to be able to develop a few rockstars. All driving people 100 hours a week for 52 weeks out of the year creates is burnouts and serial killers |
| 20:18.41 | NeoTron | I think it's been pretty much proven too that work weeks longer than 40 hrs or at most 50 hours for shorter periods of time doesn't increase productivity |
| 20:19.02 | NeoTron | instead if decreases productivity due to more bugs and errors being made by tired overworked employees |
| 20:19.03 | Dagmar | THey were really serious about it when I worked for Deloitte & Touche |
| 20:19.35 | NeoTron | In sweden some companies have moved from 40 to 35 hour work weeks and notice a distinct increase in productivity - as in more absolute work is done per week per person despite 5 hrs less time to work on it |
| 20:19.42 | Dagmar | Even giving lots of seminars on "Work/Life balance" didn't keep the sherriff from delivering a summons for someone in the office at least once or twice a week |
| 20:19.49 | Dagmar | _Divorce_ suits |
| 20:20.28 | Dagmar | Those accountants, for whatever reason, will actually put in 65-80 hours just trying to juggle numbers better |
| 20:20.57 | Dagmar | Then the wife turns around and starts seeing someone else, because they're actually available more than ten minutes a week |
| 20:23.41 | Lopeppeppy | "Well, there's nothing wrong with the server." "Except that it's not running this task I'm telilng it to run." "What's it doing?" "Timing out, like the error I sent you." "But it looks fine from this end...." ...... *crai* |
| 20:24.22 | alestane | Lopeppeppy: Is which end of the conversation are you? |
| 20:25.00 | Dagmar | 'She's probably not the party that could be substituted with a lamppost |
| 20:25.52 | Lopeppeppy | I'm the one trying to tell them that the news server is not responding and needs to be fixed, they're the ones saying it looks fine. There is essential disconnect happening. |
| 20:26.07 | alestane | NeoTron: The relationship between productivity and time is loose at best. |
| 20:26.29 | alestane | So, they're basically saying that because they can't see your problem, it doesn't exist. |
| 20:26.43 | alestane | And even if it does, there's nothing they can do about it. |
| 20:26.55 | Lopeppeppy | Half an hour I'm marching down there to do it on their computer and show them. I even made them users so they can do it to their hearts content. |
| 20:27.23 | Lopeppeppy | Until they make it stop coming up with "I'm sorry Dave, I can't let you do that" crap. |
| 20:27.56 | alestane | It is at least remotely possible that some sort of security issue is interfering, that because they have elevated privilges they don't get the same errors you do, or some such. |
| 20:28.34 | alestane | Still needs to be fixed, presumably, but it may actually be the case that they're doing the same things you are and getting different result. |
| 20:28.36 | Lopeppeppy | They're not trying to get it to DO anything, they're just seeing that it's technically up and alive. But it's still not operational. |
| 20:28.56 | Lopeppeppy | Ping - are you alive /= Task - do this and report back. |
| 20:30.04 | alestane | Running task ~= functional task. |
| 20:30.52 | Lopeppeppy | 's why I made an account for the three IT monkeys with a paw on my help ticket, so they can go make it run the exact same task that it's erroring out on. |
| 20:31.28 | Dagmar | Tell 'em the Carrie Prejean video is in there |
| 20:32.20 | alestane | Gonna say, first you have to convince them that there's any need for them to do so...task is running, if there's a problem it's not their problem, or so they're likely to think. |
| 20:32.50 | NeoTron | from what I've seen of actual game code (in distant porting windows to linux projects), it's of significantly lower quality with more hacks than your average piece of software |
| 20:32.56 | NeoTron | in case some of the stuff is downright scary |
| 20:33.31 | Lopeppeppy | Sad thing is I eat lunch with these guys, they know I'm not stupid, but all of a sudden, i'm back to stupid chick who *thinks* she has a problem. I'm putting xlax in the next batch of cookies. |
| 20:33.39 | NeoTron | and looking at some of the issues with WoW, especially recurring issues, it would seem they have at best some design issues and some rather serious version control issues :P |
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| 20:34.09 | NeoTron | Lopeppeppy: why don't you just make 'happy cookies" instead? on the day of mandatory drug testing? :) |
| 20:37.51 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, happy cookies. |
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| 20:39.04 | Lunessa | ... wants happy cooklies. |
| 20:39.08 | Lunessa | cookies |
| 20:39.21 | Thunder_Child | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:39.36 | NeoTron | Lopeppeppy: that said, we've had cases where our service looked great but clients saw timeouts... turns out that we had a surge queue on the load balanced (and no monitoring) so our service was fine, but many requests didn't go through at al |
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| 20:40.50 | nicoli_s | Lopeppeppy, just put lots of benadryl in the cookies |
| 20:41.04 | nicoli_s | those that dont fall asleep immediately will have some fun hallucinations :P |
| 20:41.15 | theorbtwo | ...and the lesson is... *monitor everything*. |
| 20:41.24 | Lopeppeppy | They gave it a static IP today, and they're wondering why it's not responding to the script. I don't know how to re-write the script if that needs doing. Oh, bouncing my head off the desk in unflavorful joy. |
| 20:41.42 | NeoTron | theorbtwo: the first lesson is to fully understand the system and to expect the unexpected |
| 20:42.23 | theorbtwo | Meh, to channel Sheldon: "expecting the unexpected is just a contridiction in terms!" |
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| 20:42.54 | theorbtwo | Understanding the system is always good advice, but you cannot expect the unexpected, just try to deal with it when it happens. |
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| 20:44.39 | Lunessa | It like the diagram managers love to draw 4 boxes. "Known" "Known Unknows" "Unknow Knowns" and "Unknown Unknowns" |
| 20:45.25 | Lunessa | And apparently, vicodin destroys my ability to press the 'n' key on my keyboard. |
| 20:55.25 | NeoTron | theorbtwo: it is true but we should have expected the surge in traffic that caused the issue in the first place, we just didn't think about that particular case |
| 20:55.55 | NeoTron | so really, the "unexpected" should have been "expected" in this case |
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| 21:01.47 | Lopeppeppy | I go home now, bye! |
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| 21:43.11 | Kraps | does carbonite interfere with blizz's quest tracker? |
| 21:45.42 | Seerah | Kraps: I think it replaces it - no? |
| 21:46.33 | Kraps | yes, you can use "replace" :p |
| 21:46.34 | Dagmar | I was waiting for someone to say 'statement violates NPOV' |
| 21:46.54 | Dagmar | I think I'll stop trying to figure out these wikipedia admin threads now. |
| 21:48.27 | Lunessa | ... http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/ |
| 21:48.45 | Shadowed | Doesn't Carbonite mess with the map? |
| 21:48.54 | Shadowed | which I'd imagine kills the quest tracker quite well |
| 21:49.02 | Dagmar | It has it's own map |
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| 22:19.38 | bleeter | http://kvardek-du.kerno.org/2010/01/how-common-lisp-programmer-views-users.html |
| 22:23.49 | Dagmar | hah asp.net |
| 22:24.33 | bleeter | and |
| 22:24.34 | bleeter | http://i.imgur.com/1gF1j.jpg |
| 22:24.55 | Pneumatus | ruby == gary glitter? |
| 22:24.56 | Pneumatus | pro |
| 22:25.49 | Dagmar | Oh wow |
| 22:25.59 | Dagmar | That's just so much meaner now. I totally didn't recognize him. |
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| 23:13.31 | Dewin | So I just learned I was using an ancient version of Notepad++ -- despite me trying to use the updater which happily claimed there was no update. |
| 23:14.03 | Dewin | Hurray for the newer one supporting Zenburn natively, though it's still one minor revision behind and the updater still claims no updates |
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| 23:24.08 | smcn | merry mass effect 2 eve everybody! |
| 23:25.10 | Thunder_Child | the first game wasnt /that/ good |
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| 23:26.34 | nixjr | i wish to make a wow addon, but no longer play the game, is there any way to test my addons when my account is not active? |
| 23:27.15 | alestane | Get a friend to do it? |
| 23:28.03 | nixjr | can i get into some kind of sandbox mode, where im my own wow server? |
| 23:28.07 | durcyn | get a trial account |
| 23:28.17 | alestane | There isn't really any functioning emulation environment, and I will not encourage you to use Addon Studio. |
| 23:28.18 | durcyn | we don't discuss server emulation here |
| 23:28.38 | nixjr | sorry, i didnt mean to break any rules |
| 23:28.46 | alestane | No, the WoW client will not log in without authenticating. |
| 23:31.41 | A-KO | kind of an out of the way thing to do by someone who doesn't have an active wow account... |
| 23:32.41 | nixjr | my friends all still play, and i saw them doing something manually that might be better achieved with an addon |
| 23:32.53 | nixjr | ive never made an addon before, mostly its just to see if i can |
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| 23:55.56 | Wobin | hehe http://au.movies.ign.com/articles/106/1062616p1.html |
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