| 00:02.03 | DJJeff | ping? |
| 00:02.03 | DJJeff | pong? |
| 00:02.03 | DJJeff | 16sec |
| 00:02.03 | DJJeff | wow |
| 00:02.07 | harl | PONG! |
| 00:02.55 | DJJeff | there we go |
| 00:02.57 | DJJeff | 1sec |
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| 00:27.53 | Duman | blargh |
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| 00:45.06 | Duman | kd3: haha |
| 00:45.31 | kd3 | I still miss the days when it required an @edu email to sign up |
| 00:45.40 | Duman | hehehe |
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| 00:51.11 | Dagmar | So... The IRCd isn't actually *buggy*, it just *attracts* bugs somehow |
| 00:51.15 | Dagmar | That's interesting. |
| 00:51.27 | kd3 | rolls his eyes |
| 00:52.08 | olafski | they should've split sunken temple up somehow |
| 00:52.10 | Duman | ircd is a mess |
| 00:52.13 | Duman | or was when I worked on it, lol |
| 00:52.15 | Dagmar | I may start taking odds on how well the new one performs once they've got it installed and fully engulfed in flames |
| 00:52.21 | olafski | you get to queue for maraudon in 3 separate parts, but sunken temple is one part :< |
| 00:52.37 | Duman | wow, my client is desynched.. it doesn't think olafski is on the channel |
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| 00:53.24 | Lopeppeppy | Duman, he's not... the channel is haunted!! |
| 00:53.57 | Duman | :-o |
| 00:55.04 | olafski | I'm here :( |
| 00:55.59 | Lopeppeppy | Who said that? |
| 00:56.33 | Duman | try leaving/joining the channel, olafski |
| 00:56.35 | olafski | just like in the movies |
| 00:56.40 | Duman | maybe it's the server that doesn't think our'e on it |
| 00:56.43 | Duman | *you're |
| 00:56.43 | olafski | where dead people influence computers to talk to living people |
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| 00:56.48 | Duman | ahh there |
| 00:56.53 | olafski | ;) |
| 00:56.56 | Duman | now you're on it ;) |
| 00:57.00 | olafski | ,) |
| 00:57.01 | Lopeppeppy | You guys are awesome. |
| 00:57.04 | Lopeppeppy | Just sayin'. |
| 00:57.11 | olafski | so what was the difference? I just didn't show up on the list? |
| 00:57.25 | Dagmar | If the server thought he wasn't in the channel it'd be giving him the "Unable to send to channel" message |
| 01:03.30 | olafski | nn then, this ghost has to sleep |
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| 02:20.38 | Adys | Dolby, Iriel, Shirik; http://www.wow matriax.com/index.htm (remove the space) - looks like a phishing site, its up on a bunch of google ads |
| 02:25.37 | Thunder_Child | lol @ matriax |
| 02:25.45 | Thunder_Child | for all the people that can not spell |
| 02:26.05 | Thunder_Child | bah, i guess that means me >.< |
| 02:27.37 | Shirik | wowmatriarch |
| 02:28.51 | Shirik | Arrowmaster is online |
| 02:28.54 | Shirik | canadaackis is online |
| 02:29.19 | Shirik | Ackis plays too much xbox imo |
| 02:29.32 | batrick | hi shirik |
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| 02:43.04 | Bruners | Adys: the file downloaded is different |
| 02:43.24 | Adys | yeha well dont run it |
| 02:43.34 | Thunder_Child | runs it |
| 02:45.13 | Bruners | why would i ever run something from wowmatrix anyway ? :P |
| 02:46.53 | Bruners | chinamens are badmens |
| 02:57.33 | Dagmar | WowMatrix is chinese? |
| 02:57.41 | Dagmar | Well that explains a lot right there |
| 03:04.39 | Bruners | the wowmatriax site wants to pull in some chinese site |
| 03:05.19 | Dagmar | First they steal our secrets, then they're stealing our gold |
| 03:05.40 | Thunder_Child | pirates |
| 03:05.59 | Dagmar | Still waiting to hear back from Google about hte malware/spoof adwords people |
| 03:06.09 | Dagmar | "Wowmatrix" is another term that was bought |
| 03:09.26 | kd3 | I've already complained to the wikia ad guys. they'll raise the red flags, hopefully |
| 03:09.55 | kd3 | damn it, I don't want snowballs |
| 03:09.58 | kd3 | where's the damn mount? |
| 03:11.35 | Dagmar | Did the same guys who've bought all these phony adword ads on Google buy a bunch of phony ads through wikia's ad provider or is it a different set of criminals? |
| 03:11.59 | kd3 | dunno. wikia gets ads from more than just google |
| 03:12.20 | kd3 | it's from a lot of places, now that I think about it |
| 03:18.23 | Dagmar | Yep. The zip file from the phony wowmatrix site is definitely a trojan |
| 03:18.30 | Dagmar | This can't be random happenstance |
| 03:19.12 | Dagmar | "XIN NET TECHNOLOGY CORPORATION" |
| 03:19.54 | Dagmar | On both counts |
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| 03:21.07 | Sixen | ohai kd3 |
| 03:24.17 | Dagmar | I think perhaps it's time to say that China, as a whole, is a rogue network, and should be blacklisted. |
| 03:24.22 | Dagmar | It'll make life much simpler. |
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| 03:26.22 | Sixen | lulz. The whole nation of China? |
| 03:26.30 | Dagmar | Sure. Why not? |
| 03:26.39 | Dagmar | This sort of thing has been going back _years_. |
| 03:26.41 | Sixen | =/ |
| 03:27.07 | Dagmar | One of my hobbies during a large part of 2000 was trying to turn Korea and China against one another, just because they were both spamming the hell out of everyone. |
| 03:27.24 | Dagmar | I must have forcibly erased about 45-50 spamholts in China, only about 12 in Korea |
| 03:30.18 | Sixen | :O |
| 03:31.17 | Dagmar | C'mon, as jurisdictional grey areas go, I couldn't have asked for better than those two countries, since they _hated_ each other. |
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| 03:31.51 | Dagmar | The chances that either would co-operate with the other are not measured in real numbers. |
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| 03:45.45 | Shadowed | Eck, you can't even secure hook SecureCmdUseItem? |
| 03:46.35 | Shadowed | ... or apparently you can and the timing of an attempt to use a secure action message was entirely random |
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| 04:26.52 | Nechckn | Wobin I was accepted for ToG! My wrinkled face and dust filled cranium likely tipped them off! |
| 04:26.56 | Nechckn | ;-) |
| 04:27.04 | Wobin | Nechckn, huzzah! |
| 04:27.07 | Wobin | what's your toon name? |
| 04:40.43 | Nechckn | haven't moved him yet... aucs are expiring over the next few hours, then he'll be enroute |
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| 04:47.03 | batrick | ToG? |
| 04:48.10 | Shirik | trial of the grand |
| 04:48.36 | batrick | why would he ned to move his toon for a raid? |
| 04:48.50 | batrick | or, is my n00b showing? |
| 04:50.08 | Bruners | i would guess ToG is a guild on a different realm, so he is waiting for the transfer cooldown to expire |
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| 04:50.33 | Bruners | or auctions |
| 04:51.57 | Shirik | ~ping |
| 04:51.58 | purl | ~pong |
| 04:55.23 | Nechckn | It's a different server... the current PVP one has had a huge population decline/inactivity So moving to one that at least has some folks around. |
| 04:56.01 | Shirik | cog|away, you use VAX |
| 04:56.09 | Shirik | Isn't there a shortcut for "go to implementation"? |
| 04:57.25 | Dagmar | Surely it's not the same type of VAX I'm thinking of |
| 04:57.36 | Shirik | visual assist 10 |
| 04:58.33 | Shirik | Basically, if you use visual studio, and you're serious about using it, you need VAX |
| 05:02.00 | mascondante | ~trout nechckn |
| 05:02.01 | purl | ACTION slaps nechckn around a bit with a large trout! |
| 05:03.51 | Shirik | don't trout Nechckn |
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| 05:07.04 | mascondante | Shirik: why not? He's my buddy and as such a good trout smackin seems in order :-p |
| 05:07.23 | Shirik | no, that is my job |
| 05:07.56 | mascondante | ooook. Can I have dibs on ~slap? |
| 05:08.36 | Shirik | error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol "public: class QString const & __thiscall CollabRC::Bot::DiffLine::GetRemovedLine(void)const " (?GetRemovedLine@DiffLine@Bot@CollabRC@@QBEABVQString@@XZ) |
| 05:08.42 | Shirik | MAYBE THAT'S BECAUSE THE CODE SAYS const QString* GetRemovedLine() const; |
| 05:08.49 | Shirik | it's inventing code on its own... |
| 05:09.15 | mascondante | uh oh you've gone and created AI haha |
| 05:09.31 | Shirik | actually this is an AI bot |
| 05:09.34 | Shirik | but that's not the point! |
| 05:09.37 | Shirik | It's not out of my control yet! |
| 05:09.59 | Lizz | hey hey, continuing bothering you guys from last night, i was wondering if anyone could take a look at my code and tell me what's missing to display a dropdown menu on a frame http://wowuidev.pastey.net/131510 - the more important chunks are near the bottom, i suspect, and the initialization function is omitted because it rigorously follows a tutorial and i'm not sure it's relevant |
| 05:09.59 | mascondante | lol. Taking over the alice project I take it? |
| 05:12.16 | Lizz | also, the SSP_OptionsDD1 is the one i intend to display under that code, DD2 and DD3 will have near-identical display code with the exception of some placement on the SSP_OptionsFrame |
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| 05:18.31 | Thunder_Child | what are you smoking Shirik? Nechckn is everyones punching bag |
| 05:22.55 | Lizz | -.- |
| 05:23.36 | Lizz | also, probably more direct and maybe someone will know, i've got one of those errors where I declare a frame and "do some stuff" but later I try to set parameters on that frame and it says "what frame?" |
| 05:24.02 | Lizz | i'm *guessing* the 'do some stuff' needs to be inside an initialization function that is called post-ADDON_LOADED |
| 05:24.24 | Lizz | but it's stuff like setting dimensions of the addon |
| 05:24.26 | Lizz | err frame |
| 05:24.30 | Lizz | so that doesn't make sense |
| 05:27.57 | cbreak | how do you declare a frame? |
| 05:28.59 | cbreak | if it's xml, not sure when they are loaded |
| 05:29.08 | Lizz | it's all in lua |
| 05:29.11 | cbreak | you can declare code inside an xml frame in OnLoad |
| 05:29.18 | Lizz | yeah |
| 05:29.21 | cbreak | if you create it in lua, where do you store it? |
| 05:29.26 | cbreak | in a local that goes out of scope? |
| 05:29.28 | Lizz | it's local to the addon |
| 05:29.38 | Lizz | shouldn't be out of scope |
| 05:29.39 | cbreak | lua can't do addon local |
| 05:29.44 | cbreak | it does file local though |
| 05:29.49 | cbreak | maybe you use that? |
| 05:29.55 | Lizz | it's file local |
| 05:30.09 | cbreak | then it should be around after creation |
| 05:30.09 | Lizz | yeah only working in one file, nothing spectacular here ;P |
| 05:30.23 | cbreak | would have to see the whole code to find something |
| 05:30.34 | Lizz | alright |
| 05:30.43 | Lizz | i can pastey it and provide errors as i'm getting them |
| 05:31.10 | Lizz | sadly the wowlua error was not descript enough for me to magically fix it :P but everything besides what i'm looking at now works just fine |
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| 05:34.34 | Lizz | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/131511 |
| 05:35.25 | Lizz | the issue occurs at line 500, which is where i'm (unsuccessfully) trying to slap my dropdown SSP_OptionsDD1 on to a frame for display |
| 05:36.06 | Lizz | (the frame i'm attaching it to is SSP_OptionsFrame, which works just fine when i comment out this code) |
| 05:37.34 | Lizz | it's saying that it's trying to index local 'frame' (a nil value) and the error is line 500, but there are other errors through 508, and that code is the *start* of displaying my dropdowns on optionsframe |
| 05:38.21 | Lizz | the declaration of SSP_OptionsDD1 is above on line... 212ish |
| 05:38.44 | cbreak | your spelling mistake |
| 05:39.01 | cbreak | is the cause |
| 05:39.10 | Lizz | oh god |
| 05:39.15 | Lizz | fffffffffff 's' |
| 05:40.17 | Lizz | alright, a slightly different error, at least it's not a typo this time |
| 05:40.29 | Lizz | now it's attempting to index '?' - a nil value |
| 05:40.39 | Lizz | i'm gonna hit the api for that function real quick, might straighten it out |
| 05:40.45 | cbreak | UIDropdownMenu are a pain to work with |
| 05:40.55 | cbreak | I am not a bad programmer, but it took me hours to get how it works |
| 05:41.47 | Lizz | we'll assume i'm not terrible (lol) and proceed ^.^ |
| 05:42.42 | Lizz | the documentation i've looked through SEEMS to look like i need 3 frames |
| 05:43.29 | Lizz | or |
| 05:43.30 | Lizz | just 2? |
| 05:43.40 | Lizz | the second being the frame i parent the dropdown to |
| 05:43.41 | cbreak | don't remember. Years since I used it. |
| 05:45.13 | Lizz | it might be that i need to jam that initialization info into a loader function for SSP_OptionsFrame (the frame on which I want these DD's to display) |
| 05:45.33 | Lizz | and just don't worry about them past initial frame creation until right then |
| 05:45.51 | Lizz | or, even, create the frame right then? |
| 05:46.19 | Lizz | i can make new frames "whenever i want" right? |
| 05:48.29 | cbreak | mostly |
| 05:48.40 | Lizz | hmm, maybe this is the error |
| 05:49.09 | Lizz | "UIDropDownMenu_SetWidth(frame, width, padding)" was something i found later on in xinhuan's tutorial |
| 05:49.36 | Lizz | but when i do "SSP_OptionDD1:UIDropDownMenu_SetWidth(80, 5);" it gives me something about not knowing what that method is |
| 05:50.01 | Xinhuan | its a global function, not a method of SSP_OptionDD1 |
| 05:50.02 | cbreak | do you know what a:b() means? |
| 05:50.26 | Lizz | yeah |
| 05:50.41 | Lizz | oh hey, i think i might have found it (and might be retarded for missing it in the first place) |
| 05:50.52 | cbreak | it means a[b](a) |
| 05:50.54 | Lizz | i don't think my DD1 inherits UIDropDownMenuTemplate -.- |
| 05:51.14 | Lizz | yeah |
| 05:52.22 | tem | so, I finally saw Grand Torino |
| 05:52.27 | tem | what a fantastic movie |
| 05:53.30 | Mr_Rabies | i love that movie |
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| 05:57.32 | tem | how do I change what program gets used inside Chrome to play an mp3 file? |
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| 05:58.06 | tem | right now when I go directly to an mp3, it is played with QuickTime |
| 05:58.13 | Adys | tem: i think it uses the system default |
| 05:58.23 | tem | and quicktime thinks I need to fucking buy it to save the mp3 |
| 05:58.28 | tem | which just makes me furious |
| 05:58.37 | Adys | uninstall quicktime imo |
| 05:58.38 | cbreak | not really |
| 05:58.48 | cbreak | can't you just use the file dialog of your browser |
| 05:58.51 | tem | the system default for mp3 files is wmp |
| 05:58.53 | cbreak | and chose "Save as..."? |
| 05:58.59 | Lizz | ^^ |
| 05:59.05 | tem | chrome has a file dialog? |
| 05:59.06 | cbreak | or right click on the link and save it |
| 05:59.29 | Adys | you can just ctrl-s tem |
| 05:59.33 | Adys | also what's the sanest way to extend a lua table? |
| 05:59.48 | Adys | I got a bunch of small tables, one big table I want to fill with all the small ones |
| 06:00.05 | Dagmar | You get one person at each end and have them pull, then you stick that spare board in the middle. |
| 06:00.37 | tem | Adys, you mean to incur the least total resizes? |
| 06:00.44 | Lizz | -.- wtf... trying to do SSP_OptionDD1:RegisterForClicks("AnyUp") and it says it doesn't know what registerforclicks is, even though all my other frames use that |
| 06:01.04 | Adys | tem: I mean, whatever's best; i dont care much about perf, just readability and sanity |
| 06:01.06 | tem | only buttons have it |
| 06:01.10 | tem | Lizz, ^ |
| 06:01.18 | Wobin | [17:00:34] [T] [Deathsniffer]: (The Thought Police) a happy and friendly leveling and hopefully soon raiding guild, we accept everyone all levels are accepted, |
| 06:01.46 | Lizz | hmm, but, it's used in the code in that tutorial, and as far as I can tell that code doesn't inherit any type of frame template, let alone a button template |
| 06:02.04 | cbreak | buttons aren't templates |
| 06:02.06 | cbreak | they are type |
| 06:02.07 | Lizz | well, that said i could be wrong |
| 06:02.32 | Lizz | *nod* but... sec let me find something to copypaste to better explain why that's confusing |
| 06:02.43 | Lizz | OH |
| 06:02.47 | Lizz | that's the second frame |
| 06:02.49 | Lizz | i make a button |
| 06:03.10 | cbreak | http://www.wowwiki.com/Widget_API#Button |
| 06:03.58 | Lizz | yeah :P but, how do i "make" the button i create "look like" the built-in dropdown buttons? is there a template to inherit for it? |
| 06:04.34 | cbreak | you can look at the source of everything |
| 06:04.45 | cbreak | maybe purl knows the link to the UI Toolkit |
| 06:04.52 | tem | Adys, do you mean concatenate a bunch of tables into one larger table? |
| 06:05.16 | Lizz | i have it, i'll go dig |
| 06:05.23 | Lizz | thanks for the reminder though |
| 06:06.11 | Adys | actually |
| 06:06.21 | Adys | to think of it i dont really need to extend |
| 06:06.30 | Adys | tem: lets just say, i have {123 = x, 2345 = y} and {12345 = xy}; and I want to get {123, 2345, 12345} |
| 06:06.39 | Adys | er |
| 06:06.39 | Adys | wait. |
| 06:06.46 | Adys | I want to get {x, y, xy} |
| 06:07.51 | cbreak | that looks weird |
| 06:08.05 | cbreak | I don't think that's valid lua |
| 06:08.24 | Adys | it isnt, Im too lazy to type the brackets |
| 06:08.49 | cbreak | you can pairs over each table and put it into a new one |
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| 06:17.12 | Lizz | Xinhuan probably knows the answer best here, but in that tutorial when OrionShock adds "UIDropDownMenu_SetWidth(frame, width, padding)" and other functions for use.... if you're just gonna map the dropdown to a button, what purpose does setting the width and other information serve, and do you pass in the button's frame or the dropdown frame? |
| 06:17.37 | Xinhuan | the width and shit is only if you inherited the template |
| 06:17.46 | Xinhuan | which shows the current selection, etc |
| 06:18.09 | Lizz | ahh, I don't want it to show the current selection (otherwise, it always shows the title, right?) |
| 06:18.14 | Xinhuan | if u just want a button that triggers a menu, the setwidth doesn't so anything useful |
| 06:19.01 | Adys | with AceTimer, how do I execute a function when a timer is cancelled? |
| 06:19.02 | Adys | actually |
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| 06:19.40 | Lizz | i want a button that looks similar to the button on the character sheet that toggles between stats, melee, ranged, spell and defense, so it probably needs to inherit a template (i was assuming the "UIDropDownMenuTemplate"), but I was unsure as to where to declare that inheritance (button or dropdown frame again) |
| 06:20.09 | Adys | actually, UGH bloody timers |
| 06:22.11 | Xinhuan | then have a frame inherit it |
| 06:22.20 | Xinhuan | and set teh width for it and position it somewhere in your frame |
| 06:22.31 | Lizz | button or dropdown frame? |
| 06:22.36 | Xinhuan | dropdown frame |
| 06:22.39 | Lizz | okay cool |
| 06:22.48 | Xinhuan | if u inherit the dropdownframe, it comes with its own button |
| 06:22.55 | Lizz | oh? |
| 06:23.59 | Lizz | 'cause I tried inheriting it with the dropdown frame, and then later registering the frame for clicks and it complained because the frame is not a button |
| 06:24.06 | Lizz | unless the button also works automatically |
| 06:24.15 | Lizz | in which case ^.^ |
| 06:24.16 | Xinhuan | the inheritted button is a child button frame |
| 06:24.48 | Xinhuan | which just works |
| 06:24.56 | Xinhuan | as long as you have the init function |
| 06:25.00 | Lizz | okay |
| 06:25.03 | Lizz | (i do) |
| 06:25.09 | Lizz | at least the init function looks clean |
| 06:25.22 | Lizz | it's actually kind of cool, it builds itself with loops n stuff :P |
| 06:25.25 | Lizz | was fun to write |
| 06:28.22 | Adys | is there any lib/addon that implements a simple sleep() function =/ |
| 06:29.35 | ZorbaBeta | adys, it's rather nontrivial to do. you'd have to wrap the sleeping function in a coroutine before it sleeps |
| 06:30.00 | ZorbaBeta | and more to the point, before you're even aware that it might, at some point in time, decide to sleep |
| 06:30.19 | Adys | there are timer libs and shit, what'd be different to a sleep() ? |
| 06:30.47 | tem | Adys, so, you have {[123] = "bob", [422] = "dole"}, {[88] = "job", [990] = "hole"} |
| 06:30.47 | ZorbaBeta | timer libs run a function every X seconds or whatever. sleep() pauses the *current* function. there's no way to do that unless it's already a coroutine. |
| 06:30.48 | Lizz | hmm, once i've got the dropdown using that template, how do i instruct it to display on a frame? is that just like other frames? |
| 06:30.57 | tem | and you want {"bob","dole","job","hole"} |
| 06:31.05 | Adys | yes tem |
| 06:31.19 | Adys | ZorbaBeta: ah, hmm.. good point |
| 06:31.25 | Adys | ZorbaBeta: ish |
| 06:31.45 | ZorbaBeta | if you're willing to coroutineize it it wouldn't be too tricky, though. |
| 06:32.12 | tem | Adys, do you have all those "little" tables in a table already? |
| 06:32.17 | Adys | no tem |
| 06:32.23 | Adys | yes tem. |
| 06:32.23 | tem | for k,v in pairs(tables) do |
| 06:32.45 | tem | for l,w in pairs(v) do |
| 06:33.12 | tem | bobdole[#bobdole+1] = w |
| 06:33.13 | tem | end |
| 06:33.50 | Adys | wasnt there a table.append function or something |
| 06:33.58 | tem | table.insert |
| 06:34.10 | tem | you could use that if you wanted, it defaults to at the rear |
| 06:34.19 | Adys | ah |
| 06:34.26 | tem | table.insert(bobdole,w) |
| 06:34.39 | tem | there's also table.concat |
| 06:34.54 | tem | >lua table.concat({1,2,3},{4,5,6}) |
| 06:35.03 | tem | lua> table.concat({1,2,3},{4,5,6}) |
| 06:35.04 | lua_bot | tem: luabot:1: bad argument #2 to 'concat' (string expected, got table) |
| 06:35.16 | Lizz | huzzah something displayed! it's terribly incorrect, but i can see it! |
| 06:35.24 | tem | yeah that doesn't do what I thought it did for a sec |
| 06:35.44 | tem | lua>table.concat({1,2,3,},", ") |
| 06:35.45 | lua_bot | tem: 1, 2, 3 |
| 06:35.53 | tem | lua>table.concat({1,2,3,},"##") |
| 06:35.53 | lua_bot | tem: 1##2##3 |
| 06:35.56 | tem | yeah, thought so |
| 06:35.57 | Wobin | it's more an implode |
| 06:36.13 | Wobin | or join |
| 06:36.17 | tem | yeah |
| 06:37.04 | Lizz | the close function works, as does the function on the top level, but the level 2 items are not appearing on click -.- and the checkmark stuff is off, but i suspect that's an easier fix |
| 06:38.40 | Lizz | looks like i want to take what I have for a title and remove it, but put that information as "what always displays when the menu is closed" |
| 06:38.42 | Lizz | any ideas? |
| 06:39.25 | `-FISKER_Q | slaps Wobin around a bit with a large trout |
| 06:41.21 | Wobin | steps on `-FISKER_Q's face with a pair of cleats. |
| 06:42.46 | Thunder_Child | thinks that `-FISKER_Q is a pale imitation of Fisker, and even less of one than Fisker- |
| 06:42.51 | Wobin | it's true |
| 06:42.56 | Wobin | he doesn't have the same panache |
| 06:43.51 | `-FISKER_Q | LAEM! |
| 06:44.04 | `-FISKER_Q | i just bought some glyph mastery books |
| 06:44.18 | `-FISKER_Q | but i only learned one glyph |
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| 06:44.27 | `-FISKER_Q | Though i used 2 books |
| 06:44.33 | `-FISKER_Q | and then it told me i learned everyone |
| 06:44.41 | `-FISKER_Q | it could of course have told me that before ;_; |
| 06:48.34 | Shirik | omg fisker has left caps lock on |
| 06:48.35 | Lizz | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/131513 - It's not populating the level 2 menus, and all the level 1 options except title are initially checked... trying to figure out why... |
| 06:48.40 | `-FISKER_Q | naw Shirik |
| 06:48.44 | `-FISKER_Q | freenode sucks |
| 06:48.48 | Shirik | nou |
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| 06:49.06 | Shirik | where did the - go? |
| 06:49.21 | Fisker | i cut it off |
| 06:49.37 | Bruners | why did you disconnect to change nick ? :P |
| 06:49.38 | Shirik | ~karma Fisker |
| 06:49.38 | purl | fisker has karma of 5 |
| 06:49.40 | Shirik | ~karma Fisker- |
| 06:49.40 | purl | fisker- has neutral karma |
| 06:51.23 | Lizz | says aregument to ipairs is not a table |
| 06:51.24 | Lizz | -.- |
| 06:51.26 | Lizz | wtf |
| 06:52.02 | Lizz | maybe that value thing isn't 'correct' |
| 06:52.03 | Lizz | hmm |
| 06:55.14 | Shirik | who is this Paul Potts guy |
| 06:55.16 | Shirik | did he win? |
| 06:55.22 | Shirik | he better not have |
| 06:55.37 | Lizz | UIDROPDOWNMENU_MENU_VALUE - is that 'always' equal to the string i've used as a entry.value on the immediatly higher level? |
| 06:55.48 | Shirik | Paul Robert Potts (born 13 October 1970) is an English pop opera tenor who won the first series of ITV's Britain's Got Talent in 2007 |
| 06:55.49 | Shirik | screw that |
| 06:56.06 | Shirik | goes to show you that the people watching that show don't know music, they know TV |
| 07:03.14 | Lizz | anyone know? |
| 07:03.39 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:05.08 | tem | Shirik, why shouldn't he have won? |
| 07:05.23 | Shirik | his singing is pretty bad |
| 07:05.23 | tem | he was this frumpy looking cell phone salesman |
| 07:05.37 | tem | yeah I'm gonna go ahead and say you're fucked in the head |
| 07:05.58 | tem | I'll freely admit that I'm not an expert, but my mom is |
| 07:06.01 | Shirik | I'll admit his singing probably sounds great to someone that hasn't listened to opera for a while, but I'm basing it off of one of my favorite songs of all time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVxa6QqtF_M |
| 07:06.15 | Shirik | and there are a lot of things that stand out at me |
| 07:06.16 | tem | and she'll tell you it's WAY above average |
| 07:06.21 | Shirik | I agree |
| 07:06.23 | Shirik | totally |
| 07:06.27 | Shirik | it's above average |
| 07:06.28 | tem | so like |
| 07:06.33 | tem | it was him |
| 07:06.35 | Shirik | is it worthy of winning? not unless everyone else was worse |
| 07:06.38 | tem | or some naked people dancing |
| 07:06.45 | tem | with cleverly placed hats |
| 07:06.47 | amro | Shirik: I'm guessing everyone else was worse |
| 07:06.51 | Shirik | ok, fair enough, I haven't looked at everyone else |
| 07:06.52 | tem | you didn't see their gentitals |
| 07:07.02 | Shirik | but there are distinct problems with his singing |
| 07:07.15 | Shirik | I'm sure he will become a great singer |
| 07:07.23 | Shirik | but he's definitely not the next Pavarotti, not without a lot of work at least |
| 07:07.25 | tem | I think you're being picky to show that you know something about how opera should sound |
| 07:07.35 | tem | but I'm also tired and in a bad mood |
| 07:07.40 | Shirik | no, I'm being picky because he ruined one of my favorite songs |
| 07:07.41 | tem | so I'm just being a dick for the sake of it |
| 07:08.02 | Shirik | being a dick is fun though |
| 07:09.09 | Balreign | useful sometimes |
| 07:09.51 | tem | oh jesus, Shirik |
| 07:09.55 | tem | that video you linked |
| 07:09.57 | tem | wow |
| 07:10.01 | Shirik | ? |
| 07:10.02 | tem | I see why you don't like him |
| 07:10.51 | tem | his nessun dorma is like a million times better |
| 07:10.59 | tem | lemme see if I can find a decent video of it |
| 07:11.45 | Shirik | ok well if he did better |
| 07:11.55 | Lizz | if you assign a dropdown menu item a value does it have any special constraints, such as "must be a string" or "all lower case"? |
| 07:12.42 | tem | nevermind, I don't want to find you a good video of it |
| 07:12.44 | tem | I want to sleep |
| 07:12.51 | tem | but if you're curious, I'm sure it's there |
| 07:23.57 | Fisker | WHY DO I KEEP LOSING ROLLS TO DAMN PALADINS AND DEATH KNIGHTS FOR THAT TRINKET!? |
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| 07:25.37 | Thunder_Child | because paladins are > you |
| 07:25.48 | Fisker | no |
| 07:26.24 | Xinhuan | lizz, current lvl |
| 07:26.27 | Fisker | i need an addon that ignores everyone in the world that is 1. melee 2. doesn't have needle-encrusted scorpiion |
| 07:26.36 | Fisker | well not tanks of course |
| 07:26.36 | Xinhuan | but yes |
| 07:26.51 | Xinhuan | the value doesn't have to be a string, it can be anything |
| 07:27.23 | Xinhuan | lizz, you are recommended to use print() everywhere in your function to track the contents of variables |
| 07:28.17 | Wobin | Shirik, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfBhrgwIXT4 |
| 07:28.22 | Wobin | my favourite operatic piece |
| 07:28.34 | Lizz | alrighty, i will do that |
| 07:29.00 | Bruners | Fisker: where does it drop ? |
| 07:29.16 | Shirik | see now that's good Wobin |
| 07:29.32 | Fisker | forge of souls Bruners |
| 07:29.36 | Shirik | I hope tem was right in saying that the AOL video I found sucked |
| 07:29.41 | Shirik | and it's something closer to this |
| 07:30.42 | Bruners | Wobin: do you really listen to that ? |
| 07:31.14 | Wobin | yes? |
| 07:32.59 | Lizz | alright |
| 07:33.11 | Lizz | i've verified that strings and tables and such are being accessed as i expected |
| 07:34.15 | Shirik | Andrea Bocelli is awesome |
| 07:35.35 | Xinhuan | whats the issue now lizz? |
| 07:36.13 | Lizz | basically, the secondary levels of the dropdown are not being built |
| 07:36.37 | Xinhuan | did teh function enter te level==2 code path? |
| 07:36.45 | Lizz | yep |
| 07:37.04 | Xinhuan | that entire section of code doesn't have a single UIDropDownMenu_AddButton(info, level) |
| 07:37.08 | Lizz | and it's passing the correct tables to my ipairs function |
| 07:37.20 | Lizz | -.- haha i see *sigh* |
| 07:37.27 | Lizz | i make a lot of silly mistakes like that ;( |
| 07:38.21 | Cruciformer | hello everyone |
| 07:39.20 | Cruciformer | Shirik: ping |
| 07:39.24 | Shirik | no |
| 07:39.31 | Lizz | okay, two more, hopefully quick questions |
| 07:39.38 | Cruciformer | well ok then |
| 07:40.12 | Lizz | first, if you look at my menu setup, none is indented (due to being checkable)... but the others have since posting flagged as uncheckable -.- how do I get them to "all line up" |
| 07:40.51 | Lizz | second, when I select an item in a submenu, how do I make it close the entire menu instead of just that level |
| 07:40.51 | Xinhuan | which level |
| 07:41.00 | Lizz | "none" is on the first level |
| 07:41.14 | Xinhuan | call the CloseblahblahMenu() without any arguments |
| 07:41.29 | Xinhuan | if u pass in an integer, it closes that level and everything lower |
| 07:41.37 | Xinhuan | so it defaults to 1 |
| 07:42.09 | Lizz | Aha, alright. got it now |
| 07:43.14 | Lizz | any idea about indentation? |
| 07:46.55 | Cruciformer | I've written a library that is a replacement for UIDropDownMenu and also adds dewdrop-like menus too. If it will help you Lizz you are more than welcome to look at it and see if it will help you. |
| 07:47.54 | Lizz | Sadly, I'm so far into this one that at least, until I get a handle on it and start touching on the inherant limits I won't realize any benefit of a library... but I may check out your code as a reference |
| 07:49.56 | Xinhuan | lol |
| 07:50.20 | Fisker | so wake up mr. Shirik |
| 07:50.25 | Fisker | wake up... and smell the ashes |
| 07:50.29 | Xinhuan | info.notCheckable makes them indented or not |
| 07:50.31 | Xinhuan | so |
| 07:50.45 | Fisker | sets fire to Shirik's feet |
| 07:50.48 | Xinhuan | if you just want them all to align, you can make all of them checkable |
| 07:50.52 | Cruciformer | http://kahluamod.com/svn/kore/trunk/KKore/ ... the stuff you want is in KKoreUI.lua and its documented in KKoreUI.txt |
| 07:50.56 | Xinhuan | but info.checked can be nil |
| 07:51.07 | Lizz | Ahh, but if it's nil, won't the built-in template also "check" them for me if i click? |
| 07:51.10 | Xinhuan | and use uncheckhack() for menuitems that aren't supposed to be checkable |
| 07:51.15 | Xinhuan | hence its a hack |
| 07:51.22 | Lizz | aha alrighty |
| 07:51.27 | Lizz | thanks! |
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| 07:51.32 | Xinhuan | the default ui checks them, then the hack unchecks it |
| 07:51.38 | Lizz | aha |
| 07:52.29 | Cruciformer | Shirik: So here's the project I want to do. I want to create a web based image viewer where I can dump all my raw .CR2 files, and create an extension to lightroom that on a per-photo basis will export the list of edits that were done to the photo |
| 07:52.55 | Cruciformer | so that a user can see the original (they wont get access to the .CR2 the viewer will convert it to jpg for display) |
| 07:53.18 | Cruciformer | and compare it to the final version, and see all of the things you did to get the final, such as what was cropped, what filters were applied |
| 07:53.34 | Cruciformer | and full easy access to all of the exif info for the picture etc. |
| 07:54.28 | Cruciformer | and I want the photographer to be able to enter comments on a per-photo basis to say why they did what they did etc, or tag the photos to say "this one is for public viewing, or just for private viewing" etc |
| 07:55.34 | Fisker | slaps Cruciformer around a bit with a large trout |
| 07:55.51 | Cruciformer | slap moar pls |
| 07:56.08 | Fisker | moar? |
| 07:56.28 | Cruciformer | its idiot-speak for "more". dont play wow much do you? |
| 07:56.38 | Shirik | sorry, back |
| 07:58.02 | Shirik | that sounds interesting, but I'm not sure how possible it is |
| 07:58.52 | Cruciformer | if I can find an open source thing that can decode .dng files LR can export to .dng and embed the raw .CR2 or whatever file inside it. I may be able to extract what I need from the dng file. |
| 07:59.06 | Shirik | I'm not exactly impressed with the robustness of lightroom's API |
| 07:59.52 | Cruciformer | in fact I may be able to get away with just using that LR-exported DNG file and extract both the original untouched image as well as the final image. Using imagemagick or netpbm tools the viewr can render images of various sizes |
| 08:00.14 | Cruciformer | I havent looked into it at all yet its just something ive wanted to do for publishing my own little turds I call photos. |
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| 08:00.48 | Cruciformer | altho I am getting better each photoshoot |
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| 08:02.18 | Cruciformer | Shirik: this is what a retard I am. I did a shoot theother day that neded flash (it was at night, at a home). I forgot to adjust the camera's AWB to be flash mode, so all the pictures had that extremely start, cold look to them. I had to adjust the temperature of every photo. |
| 08:02.34 | Shirik | ha |
| 08:02.36 | Cruciformer | start=stark |
| 08:02.45 | Shirik | I use custom WB |
| 08:02.47 | Shirik | so |
| 08:02.52 | Shirik | I'm just used to setting it every time now |
| 08:03.13 | Cruciformer | yeah I do that too now, I just calibrate for the lighting before I start and be done with it |
| 08:03.28 | Thunder_Child | the site sounds possible. but a serious PITA to set up |
| 08:03.42 | Cruciformer | TC: What I was talking about? |
| 08:03.52 | Thunder_Child | yes |
| 08:04.11 | Thunder_Child | though plugins for LR are rather few |
| 08:04.19 | Thunder_Child | they dont open much up |
| 08:04.22 | Cruciformer | yeah I'd like to make it as simple as possible so I can just dump the .dng files exported from LR and run a script to have it render the previews and thumbnails etc |
| 08:05.26 | Cruciformer | at worst case, make it possible to put either a directory-wide xml file that you can annotate each photo or possibly even a per-image file that can set tags (private, public etc) or copyright info or crap like that. |
| 08:06.30 | Thunder_Child | well, assuming you dont want to be able to show them step by step i know you can export the history from LR |
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| 08:07.20 | Cruciformer | Ya I have no desire for the step by step, and to be honest it would be meaningless unless I can reproduce the LR algorithms against the raw files anway. |
| 08:07.57 | Thunder_Child | though it would be cool to see each intervening image as the changes are made |
| 08:08.01 | Cruciformer | so if one of the history items is "clarity +50" unless I have their "clarity" algorithm I couldnt reproduce it. |
| 08:09.24 | Cruciformer | tho as you say it sure would be nice |
| 08:09.52 | Thunder_Child | well you could do it if you exported an image at each step |
| 08:10.08 | Thunder_Child | or could whip up an automation to do it from the history |
| 08:10.26 | Cruciformer | yeah I guess. that would be a lot of uploading over a slow link tho. |
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| 08:10.42 | Cruciformer | uploading the dng with the embedded .cr2 is big enough (over 50mb per image for me currently) |
| 08:12.21 | Cruciformer | I guess a lot would depend on how easy it is to embed the history in the dng file so I can extract it on the site. Is there a free-form exif field I could possibly use and attach the history as part of the metadata? |
| 08:13.33 | Fisker | slaps Cruciformer around a bit with a large trout |
| 08:13.56 | Cruciformer | im allergic to trout, can you use a mackerel instead? |
| 08:19.11 | amro | I don't think he cares |
| 08:20.00 | Fisker | he? |
| 08:20.21 | Thunder_Child | you |
| 08:20.26 | Fisker | you? |
| 08:20.40 | Thunder_Child | you & he == Fisker |
| 08:20.54 | Fisker | i'm not quite sure that i follow |
| 08:20.59 | amro | fisker is a bitmask? |
| 08:26.30 | Dagmar | Yep. Pure zero-fill, tho'. |
| 08:29.52 | Shirik | That makes sense |
| 08:30.00 | Shirik | x & Fisker == Fisker |
| 08:30.02 | Shirik | for any value of x |
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| 08:36.23 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 08:36.56 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 08:37.03 | Fisker | hey Shirik |
| 08:37.08 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 08:37.22 | Fisker | hey ShirikĂÂ |
| 08:37.28 | Shirik | hey Fisker |
| 08:37.31 | Fisker | hey ShirikĂÂ |
| 08:37.33 | Grum | hey Fisrik |
| 08:37.48 | Shirik | in the words of the immortal Fisker, no fu |
| 08:37.59 | Grum | i bet he never got immortal |
| 08:38.01 | Fisker | no u |
| 08:40.33 | Fisker | no fu u then |
| 08:41.37 | Shirik | funoukfu |
| 08:42.38 | Shirik | lol @ american dad "He turned water into fiiiiiine" |
| 08:43.50 | Fisker | no |
| 08:44.34 | Shirik | yes |
| 08:44.43 | Shirik | because like he was wearing a speedo in a swimming pool |
| 08:44.47 | Shirik | and then he got up and walked out |
| 08:44.53 | Shirik | and he had all these muscles and stuff |
| 08:48.45 | Shirik | Lol.... |
| 08:48.51 | Shirik | and then he rode a motorcycle down route 666 |
| 08:48.55 | Fisker | are you a girl Shirik ? |
| 08:48.58 | Shirik | yes |
| 08:49.28 | amro | are you a Fisker Fisker? |
| 08:51.26 | Fisker | i am your mother amro |
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| 09:02.59 | Shirik | ok so I have a constant HELLOWORLD = "Hello, world!" |
| 09:03.10 | Shirik | It is immediately followed by its french version |
| 09:03.27 | Shirik | The question is should it be BONJOURWORLD = "Bonjour, tout le monde" |
| 09:03.35 | Shirik | or BONJOURMONDE = "Bonjour, tout le monde" |
| 09:03.45 | amro | HELLOWORLD_FR imo |
| 09:03.46 | Fisker | should be HELLOWORLD |
| 09:03.49 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 09:04.13 | Dagmar | It's French, so... NEEDS MOAR ACCENTZ |
| 09:04.14 | Shirik | I mean in reality it doesn't matter |
| 09:04.16 | Shirik | I was just kinda curious :P |
| 09:04.20 | Bruners | i got a localization question for you pro's |
| 09:05.22 | Bruners | can i copy localized stuff from epgp (which uses AceLocale) and paste it in my addon which looks like this http://github.com/Bruners/epgp_standbypopup/blob/master/standby.lua |
| 09:05.38 | Shirik | I have a rule about coding |
| 09:05.41 | Bruners | or is AceLocale doing cool stuff with that russianchinaman |
| 09:05.45 | Shirik | any time you copy and paste something, you did something wrong |
| 09:06.03 | Dagmar | So long as your editor ISN'T working in ASCII it'll probably take the paste fine |
| 09:06.07 | Bruners | well i can't really code a different language |
| 09:06.30 | Shirik | well before we get into anything else |
| 09:06.43 | Shirik | I raise the totally-unrelated-to-programming note that you can't legally copy and paste that anyway |
| 09:07.13 | Arrowmaster | its localizations, go for it |
| 09:07.28 | Bruners | i do not really care about it being legal or not |
| 09:07.38 | Shirik | but that being said, I'm a bit confused |
| 09:07.45 | Shirik | are you saying you want to replace it with the "visible" version of it? |
| 09:07.48 | Shirik | if so, why? |
| 09:07.57 | Shirik | or is it in addition to what you already have |
| 09:08.26 | Bruners | i have already copied the localization in my code there |
| 09:09.47 | Shirik | ah |
| 09:09.58 | Shirik | so why not just use that ace library |
| 09:10.00 | Shirik | whatever it's called |
| 09:10.07 | Shirik | isn't there some library that has a bunch of translations? |
| 09:10.31 | amro | wow doesn't expect utf8? |
| 09:10.47 | Bruners | if that tiny bit of code works i see no reason to bother with acelocale |
| 09:10.52 | Shirik | UTF8 strings work |
| 09:10.56 | Shirik | but you don't have to use them |
| 09:11.13 | Shirik | Bruners: A fair enough reasoning |
| 09:11.14 | Bruners | i took that from http://wowprogramming.com/snippets/Simple_Localization_with_Metatables_18 |
| 09:11.18 | amro | would be much clearer to have the file in utf8 then instead of those crazy escape sequences |
| 09:11.30 | Shirik | except for people with sucky editors |
| 09:11.51 | Bruners | amro: it was already translated in epgp and that is the string i'm looking for in my addon |
| 09:13.24 | Shirik | whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy |
| 09:13.31 | Shirik | why did they bring frisky dingo back to adult swim |
| 09:13.37 | Shirik | why can't they have a DECENT show every once in a while |
| 09:13.43 | amro | because cartoon network sucks now |
| 09:13.49 | Shirik | whatever happened to futurama |
| 09:13.53 | Dagmar | Even when you *don't* have a suck text editor it's handy to have them in escape sequence form just so you can see that that string area is _special_ |
| 09:14.04 | Dagmar | The eye doesn't always properly scan glyphs it's unfamiliar with |
| 09:14.24 | amro | Dagmar: it's not special |
| 09:14.25 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 09:14.30 | Shirik | amro: CN really has gone severely downhill |
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| 09:14.54 | Dagmar | amro: For me it's special because it's "the shit I have no idea what it says" |
| 09:15.14 | Dagmar | So I can _very_ easily screw it up if I'm not treating it as a completely un-changeable string |
| 09:15.18 | Bruners | i can't read chinese letters |
| 09:15.27 | Dagmar | To hell with what the Chinese want |
| 09:15.30 | amro | Dagmar: derr |
| 09:15.48 | amro | if you're working with utf8, treat all your strings as such |
| 09:15.52 | amro | not just the ones that look weird |
| 09:15.54 | Shirik | The chinese don't know what they want |
| 09:16.05 | Bruners | they get told what they want? |
| 09:16.21 | Dagmar | amro: I may well have to edit that file, so it's no good to say "You shouldn't edit UTF-8" |
| 09:16.33 | Shirik | they'll give you what you want |
| 09:16.45 | amro | Dagmar: I don't understand your reasoning |
| 09:16.51 | amro | you edit random strings for fun? |
| 09:17.00 | amro | you should only be editing strings you understand |
| 09:17.02 | Shirik | doesn't everyone? |
| 09:17.09 | Dagmar | When I want to remove bugs? Sure |
| 09:17.12 | amro | if it's in chinese, then it won't matter if it's escaped |
| 09:17.32 | amro | what bugs? it's a constant pattern! |
| 09:17.46 | amro | there's nothing inherently special about it |
| 09:17.59 | Dagmar | Yeah it's something I have to cut and paste and most importantly, _not justify the character placement or break it up into multiple statements_ |
| 09:18.03 | Dagmar | I've _been_ down that road |
| 09:18.03 | amro | all utf8 is just utf8, if you start to think "english" and "funky letters" you're going to get in trouble down the road |
| 09:18.35 | Dagmar | I've already been there. I was working with translations for a bash script |
| 09:19.15 | amro | and? |
| 09:19.35 | Dagmar | Considering there's probably two cocktail napkins' worth of documentation on that, the whole thing was a "carefully cut and paste" operation |
| 09:20.24 | amro | where did you run into trouble? |
| 09:20.48 | Dagmar | Not being able to read 90% of it |
| 09:21.12 | amro | and you would have been able to read it if it looked like \209\131\208\180\208\176\208\187\209\145\208\189? |
| 09:21.13 | amro | I'm confused |
| 09:22.07 | Dagmar | It would have been a hell of a lot easier to insert "$1" in the proper places, yes. |
| 09:23.00 | amro | that's not a good enough reason to make your strings unreadable |
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| 09:23.48 | Bruners | before you start a war over this, will WoW manage to use those strings? |
| 09:23.53 | amro | yes |
| 09:23.55 | Bruners | and the code i used |
| 09:24.37 | Dagmar | Amro: Maybe in your book. I've no problem with leaving things I can't read, actually unreadable. |
| 09:24.56 | Dagmar | I wouldn't know what the hell it said if I saw the glyphs in Cyrillic |
| 09:25.15 | nevcairiel | But a russian person that might want to maintain those strings would, and you make life hell for him |
| 09:25.17 | nevcairiel | imho its wrong |
| 09:25.20 | Dagmar | ...and if it were in Hiragana I could definitely mistake the wrong thing for a double-quote |
| 09:25.34 | amro | Dagmar: it's nice to see that you don't care about the guy who has to edit those strings and needs to be able to read them |
| 09:25.41 | nevcairiel | we have UTF-8 for a reason :P |
| 09:25.45 | Dagmar | for f's sake people it's not like i'm saying everyone everywhere has to keep their strings non-readable |
| 09:26.00 | Dagmar | ...and it's trivial to convert escape sequences back into glyphs in the first place |
| 09:26.27 | amro | if it's so trivial why didn't you do the back and forth? |
| 09:26.31 | nevcairiel | so you can do it, convert to escape, do whatever you want to do, and convert back! :D |
| 09:26.43 | Dagmar | I've been coding far too long to not be familiar with the most common ways I screw up, and work around them |
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| 09:27.13 | Dagmar | Hey, I've an idea |
| 09:27.23 | Dagmar | Go complain to the people making escaped sequences in WoW |
| 09:27.43 | Wobin | ugh |
| 09:27.53 | Wobin | apparently dropping 450 skinning crashes my computer =P |
| 09:27.58 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 09:28.03 | Dagmar | I'm still far from being at the point on the thing I'm working on to care about translation, and considering what I'm doing I will probably just refuse to ever take a step in that direction |
| 09:29.14 | Fisker | nah it was my fart Wobin |
| 09:29.23 | amro | ~gag Fisker |
| 09:29.24 | purl | ACTION takes away the voice of Fisker and, as an additional precaution, sews Fisker's mouth shut permanently... |
| 09:29.51 | Wobin | Your mom's fart, Fisker |
| 09:30.03 | Bruners | Dagmar: making the small steps to make a translation easier when you need it is good for your sanity |
| 09:30.55 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: any sign? |
| 09:31.02 | Dagmar | Bruners: Like I said, I'm not sure I'd want to go translating it |
| 09:31.19 | Dagmar | WoW would make a pretty good conduit for covert communications |
| 09:31.44 | Bruners | time to watch some leet haxxoring in the new Numb3rs |
| 09:32.01 | Dagmar | I'm not really keen on the commercial uses of an addon that uses crypto to identify other users, regardless of server or toon name |
| 09:34.56 | Dagmar | Frankly if it wound up being used by goldsellers to identify customers or something similar, I'd be ready to rip someone's face off one-handed |
| 09:36.39 | Fisker | it's at the local post office jnwhiteh |
| 09:36.47 | jnwhiteh | =/ |
| 09:38.08 | Bruners | Fisker: one thousand liters of milk at the local post office? |
| 09:38.15 | Fisker | yes |
| 09:40.29 | Shirik | your mom has over 9000 liters of milk |
| 09:49.49 | Cruciformer | git makes my teeth hurt |
| 09:50.23 | Cruciformer | i never thought I'd say cvs was better than anything but my god even cvs is better than git :/ |
| 09:50.37 | nevcairiel | you should go see a head doctor |
| 09:50.43 | nevcairiel | because clearly its not working right |
| 09:50.53 | Cruciformer | I know I know theres plenty git fanbois out there |
| 09:51.21 | nevcairiel | I'm not a fanboi, i just know that its working fine for me |
| 09:51.22 | Cruciformer | svn I can get my head around but git just "feels" weird to me. |
| 09:51.41 | nevcairiel | just because you don't understand something doesnt make it bad |
| 09:51.47 | Cruciformer | I think I just need to spend more time with it |
| 09:52.16 | Cruciformer | I didnt say it was bad I said it made my teeth hurt and that I prefered cvs's simplicity :) |
| 09:52.44 | Cruciformer | its clearly very powerful. I just need to get to know it better I guess. |
| 09:53.18 | nevcairiel | the initial learning curve is a bit higher if you've never bothered to learn the general concept of a dvcs |
| 09:53.39 | jnwhiteh | umm |
| 09:53.48 | Cruciformer | if mercurial counts as a real dcvs I played with that a bit when I was at google. |
| 09:53.48 | jnwhiteh | "are you blood spec mate? |
| 09:54.02 | jnwhiteh | "cause ur mitigation and aggro control are way better in frost" |
| 09:54.26 | nevcairiel | i love people that believe to know DK-fu from a year ago |
| 09:54.43 | jnwhiteh | "umm no.. skill > spec.. and you have just fine tanking in any spec" |
| 09:54.50 | jnwhiteh | "ur an idiot", leaves group |
| 09:54.51 | jnwhiteh | O.o |
| 09:55.07 | nevcairiel | I heard that so much when i tanked as unholy in 3.0 |
| 09:55.12 | Shirik | ok nite |
| 09:55.14 | nevcairiel | people all complained that i need to be frost |
| 09:55.19 | nevcairiel | but i liked unholy tanking =P |
| 09:55.54 | nevcairiel | These days i'm blood as well, but i honestly didnt have that argument again |
| 09:56.26 | Arrowmaster | like all of the raid DK tanks were unholy in 3.0 |
| 09:56.46 | Arrowmaster | actually i think all raiding DKs were unholy in 3.0 |
| 09:57.05 | jnwhiteh | well i'm level 73 |
| 09:57.10 | jnwhiteh | i'm not tanking heroics here =) |
| 09:57.18 | jnwhiteh | frost does not have much better aggro |
| 09:57.22 | jnwhiteh | and there are 2 mitigation talents |
| 09:57.25 | jnwhiteh | one active, one passive |
| 09:57.27 | jnwhiteh | and i have the passive one |
| 09:57.33 | nevcairiel | imho blood even has better aggro |
| 09:57.37 | jnwhiteh | i agree |
| 09:57.51 | nevcairiel | mitigation is higher in frost |
| 09:57.57 | nevcairiel | but blood heals yourself instead |
| 09:58.12 | jnwhiteh | mitigation is SLIGHTLY ihgher |
| 09:58.14 | jnwhiteh | look at the talents |
| 09:58.16 | jnwhiteh | there's only two |
| 10:00.14 | nevcairiel | its basically HP against mitigation |
| 10:00.27 | Dagmar | You sure you're not forgetting the outright 8% damage reduction and 60% greater gear contribution? |
| 10:00.33 | Dagmar | I would call that "significant", not "slight" |
| 10:00.39 | nevcairiel | eh? |
| 10:00.45 | nevcairiel | a blood tank still uses frost presence |
| 10:01.23 | jnwhiteh | tahts PRESENCE |
| 10:01.25 | jnwhiteh | not spec. |
| 10:01.25 | jnwhiteh | nub |
| 10:01.36 | Dagmar | Hey there's a reason I generally just shoot people |
| 10:01.40 | Dagmar | Much simpler. |
| 10:01.51 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 10:01.56 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: you keep saying its mitigation |
| 10:02.00 | jnwhiteh | where is the mitigation coming from |
| 10:02.06 | jnwhiteh | there's one active talent i dont ave |
| 10:02.17 | Dagmar | I've finally managed to break myself of the "ranged DK" thing tho. That's an improvement |
| 10:02.47 | nevcairiel | the difference is just in the active talents |
| 10:02.54 | nevcairiel | blood gives you a last-stand like talent |
| 10:02.58 | nevcairiel | frost a armor boost |
| 10:02.59 | jnwhiteh | well there's one of those =) |
| 10:03.40 | nevcairiel | frost also gives you 2% more mitigation on frost presence, but thats not much |
| 10:04.46 | nevcairiel | there isnt that much from talents that DKs get mitigation wise, its mostly just threat styles |
| 10:06.02 | nevcairiel | the biggest difference is in dmg done .. blood does physical, frost phys/magic combined and unholy is mostly magic dmg |
| 10:06.12 | nevcairiel | usually that doesnt matter, just on some selected mobs it might =P |
| 10:10.39 | jnwhiteh | *nod* |
| 10:10.46 | jnwhiteh | in short, this guy was an idiot |
| 10:10.59 | jnwhiteh | you know how in nexus normal on the dog packs, 2 dogs one caster |
| 10:11.04 | jnwhiteh | the tank can get ice blocked |
| 10:11.17 | jnwhiteh | well i think he was interpreting this as 'me losing aggro' |
| 10:12.20 | Dagmar | Was he a Hunter? |
| 10:12.24 | jnwhiteh | mage |
| 10:12.32 | amro | bad |
| 10:12.32 | Dagmar | Ah. |
| 10:12.36 | Dagmar | Hunters can get you out of that |
| 10:12.40 | amro | so can mages |
| 10:12.45 | jnwhiteh | heh, how? |
| 10:12.51 | jnwhiteh | well instead |
| 10:13.01 | jnwhiteh | he bitched about my talent spec |
| 10:13.08 | amro | invisibility |
| 10:13.11 | amro | blink |
| 10:13.13 | amro | frost nova |
| 10:13.16 | amro | cone of cold |
| 10:13.18 | amro | take your pick |
| 10:13.27 | Dagmar | That gets *them* out of it, I don't see how it helps the tank |
| 10:13.43 | amro | oh, I misread what you said |
| 10:13.50 | Dagmar | No problem. |
| 10:14.00 | Dagmar | Master's Call is kinda new. I don't think many people are even fully aware of it yet |
| 10:17.07 | Dagmar | OOof. I should ask so I don't have to find out the hard way. Are bullets supposed to be physical or magical? |
| 10:17.44 | Dagmar | I've _never_ had a spell reflect happen from one, but I've never seen a phys-dps-immune mob not take damage |
| 10:18.10 | amro | Dagmar: what bullets? |
| 10:18.18 | amro | hunter auto attack is physical |
| 10:18.25 | amro | specials are usually magic damage though |
| 10:18.27 | amro | mostly arcane |
| 10:18.48 | Dagmar | Well, I know arcane shot is arcane, and the sting I generally use is nature |
| 10:19.02 | amro | I think multishot is also arcane |
| 10:19.06 | Dagmar | I just wanted to be sure I could read what's going on during the LAdy Deathwhisper fight tomorrow |
| 10:19.16 | Dagmar | But like, they never ever reflect back at me |
| 10:19.44 | Dagmar | That's the frustrating thing about them |
| 10:20.20 | amro | it's magical damage but not a spell |
| 10:20.40 | Dagmar | Viper Sting for instance, there's some mobs in HoL that are immune to it, but take damage from everyone's everything else just fine |
| 10:21.10 | Dagmar | I guess i'll squeeze out some multi's tomorrow on a few test cases |
| 10:29.23 | jnwhiteh | so I have 50 frost emblems, and 88 triumph |
| 10:29.28 | jnwhiteh | should i updgrade some of gear? |
| 10:29.30 | jnwhiteh | from pvp shit? |
| 10:31.27 | jnwhiteh | boots, ring and cloak are all pvp right now. |
| 10:32.30 | zenzelezz | I may be wrong about this, but I don't picture them adding much new gear to spend Triumph and Frost on |
| 10:32.44 | zenzelezz | so if you don't spend them now, they'll be like those annoying Badges of Justice that you can't use for anything useful now |
| 10:33.16 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 10:33.33 | ZorbaBeta | you can get a nice cheap ranged item if you don't have one already |
| 10:33.46 | ZorbaBeta | (assuming you're not a hunter) |
| 10:33.59 | jnwhiteh | druids are still spirit focusd, aren't they? |
| 10:34.00 | jnwhiteh | i'm a druid |
| 10:34.02 | jnwhiteh | so i have my idols. |
| 10:34.13 | ZorbaBeta | yeah alright you can get a nice cheap idol if you don't have one already |
| 10:34.44 | jnwhiteh | there are NO boots with triumph? |
| 10:34.45 | jnwhiteh | hrmph. |
| 10:34.54 | jnwhiteh | or clok |
| 10:34.55 | jnwhiteh | cloak |
| 10:35.10 | zenzelezz | nope. Frost has cloaks |
| 10:35.15 | zenzelezz | don't remember about boots |
| 10:35.23 | Fisker | lol |
| 10:35.26 | Fisker | jnwhiteh |
| 10:35.28 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: crit/mp5 vs haste/spirit? |
| 10:35.36 | Fisker | i was just down there and they didn't have it :( |
| 10:35.46 | jnwhiteh | O.o |
| 10:35.46 | Fisker | then i got back home and they had just been there |
| 10:35.49 | jnwhiteh | hahaha |
| 10:35.58 | jnwhiteh | that _sucks_ =/ |
| 10:36.02 | nevcairiel | as a tree? clearly haste/spirit |
| 10:36.24 | Fisker | not really |
| 10:36.29 | Fisker | as the postman was like |
| 10:36.31 | Fisker | 1+1 = 2? |
| 10:36.43 | jnwhiteh | nevcairiel: k, just checking |
| 10:36.50 | zenzelezz | one does not simply talk about The Postman |
| 10:36.54 | Fisker | they didn't send the package out as usual |
| 10:37.00 | Fisker | But with the guys who deliver letters |
| 10:37.07 | Fisker | because they figured i might want it today: D |
| 10:37.07 | Fisker | :D |
| 10:37.29 | jnwhiteh | aww |
| 10:37.32 | jnwhiteh | so |
| 10:37.34 | jnwhiteh | you still dont ahve it |
| 10:37.43 | Fisker | i do! |
| 10:37.44 | nevcairiel | no hero for fisker yet? |
| 10:37.54 | zenzelezz | Fisker doesn't believe in heroes |
| 10:38.01 | jnwhiteh | oh, you got it!! |
| 10:38.11 | jnwhiteh | hurray! |
| 10:38.17 | nevcairiel | you really shouldve put the phone in a hero box |
| 10:38.23 | Fisker | he did :/ |
| 10:38.24 | nevcairiel | that wouldve so freaked him out |
| 10:38.36 | zenzelezz | lol |
| 10:39.17 | Fisker | i wonder if i should plug it in now |
| 10:39.24 | Fisker | or wait until some of the CONDENSATION is over |
| 10:39.24 | zenzelezz | my dad once brought home an empty Macbook box and put it in the hallway to freak out my brother (who's pretty anti-Mac) |
| 10:39.44 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: you can sit it in rice to get the condensation off |
| 10:39.47 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:39.48 | nevcairiel | interesting enough that your parents are techy enough to care about macs |
| 10:40.13 | Fisker | you mean like boiling rice? |
| 10:40.59 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: only my dad. He's actually responsible for me and my brother being computer freaks |
| 10:41.17 | zenzelezz | though he's starting to fall behind... difficult to explain coding to him sometimes :-p |
| 10:41.33 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: no |
| 10:41.35 | jnwhiteh | dry rice |
| 10:41.42 | jnwhiteh | its how you get moisture out of electronics |
| 10:42.07 | zenzelezz | as in actual rice? |
| 10:42.17 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 10:42.17 | jnwhiteh | Use a substance with a high affinity for water to help draw out moisture. Leave the phone in a bowl or bag of uncooked rice overnight. The rice would absorb any remaining moisture. If available, it is preferable to use desiccant instead. Desiccant will absorb moisture better than rice. It may be found under a brand name such as the "BHEESTIE BagĂąÂÂą" "DRY-ALL" "Damp Rid" or "Dry Right". |
| 10:42.18 | Fisker | so i'd best go get my phone out of the boiling water then? |
| 10:42.20 | nevcairiel | same reason you put some rice in your salt |
| 10:42.21 | jnwhiteh | it works, seriously |
| 10:42.24 | nevcairiel | so it doesnt get wet |
| 10:42.27 | jnwhiteh | *nod* |
| 10:42.35 | jnwhiteh | i've saved many a phone that way |
| 10:42.49 | jnwhiteh | battery off |
| 10:42.53 | jnwhiteh | bag of rice for a day or two |
| 10:42.54 | jnwhiteh | mahic! |
| 10:42.57 | jnwhiteh | magic |
| 10:43.09 | zenzelezz | this is when you wish you'd saved all those small bags they put in electronics boxes |
| 10:44.08 | Fisker | doh i turned it on |
| 10:44.19 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 10:44.32 | jnwhiteh | guess you have to play with it now. |
| 10:44.34 | zenzelezz | Fisker's Nexus One adventure lasted all of 10 seconds |
| 10:44.35 | Fisker | the trackball is sexy |
| 10:44.48 | Fisker | i'm sooo rubbing it until it falls off |
| 10:45.13 | zenzelezz | just like always then |
| 10:45.16 | jnwhiteh | DID YOU VIDEO TAPE THE UNBOXING? |
| 10:47.42 | Fisker | video what? |
| 10:48.55 | Fisker | :( |
| 10:49.01 | Fisker | polar clock doesn't work here either |
| 10:50.11 | zenzelezz | polar clock? |
| 10:50.34 | Fisker | one of the nexus one live wallpapers |
| 10:51.04 | jnwhiteh | there's a bug with that, yeah |
| 10:51.07 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMf9ufuj1fg |
| 10:51.09 | Fisker | like that |
| 10:51.09 | jnwhiteh | you can change something to fix it |
| 10:53.09 | jnwhiteh | o no, i got dps =/ |
| 11:05.00 | Fisker | rage |
| 11:07.36 | Fisker | oh gods |
| 11:08.14 | Fisker | finding the apn info is like impossible |
| 11:08.22 | Fisker | "Screw you use this convenient guide instead" |
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| 11:12.44 | jnwhiteh | i do 2k dps =/ |
| 11:17.51 | zenzelezz | class/spec? |
| 11:22.45 | jnwhiteh | boomkin druid |
| 11:22.49 | jnwhiteh | fucking gearscore |
| 11:22.49 | jnwhiteh | for voa25 |
| 11:22.53 | jnwhiteh | are you fucking kidding me. |
| 11:22.57 | jnwhiteh | i could piss on Voa 25 and be fine. |
| 11:23.06 | nevcairiel | hahaha |
| 11:25.19 | jnwhiteh | and now teh raid is full int eh time it took me to download it |
| 11:25.23 | jnwhiteh | i'm apparently 4.3k |
| 11:26.59 | Fisker | 2k dps is terrible :)( |
| 11:27.00 | Fisker | :( |
| 11:27.07 | jnwhiteh | yes, I know |
| 11:27.11 | jnwhiteh | and i dont know why its so shit |
| 11:27.14 | jnwhiteh | except i'm in resto gear |
| 11:27.15 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 11:36.55 | Fisker | got a cookiecutter spec? |
| 11:41.47 | jnwhiteh | there aren't many boomkin specs. |
| 11:42.09 | nevcairiel | speccing druids is always easy, since you really only have one main tree to worry about :D |
| 11:42.12 | jnwhiteh | just the one where you nuke. |
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| 12:00.53 | Wobin | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=26476 |
| 12:00.57 | Wobin | craaaaazy |
| 12:03.00 | Wobin | jnwhiteh, eh, there are some low tier talents that are useful cross tree |
| 12:03.23 | jnwhiteh | yeah, but those are a part of almost any basic spec |
| 12:03.48 | nevcairiel | any spec basically starts with some base talents in resto |
| 12:03.52 | nevcairiel | even feral goes there =P |
| 12:05.25 | jnwhiteh | yep |
| 12:06.40 | zenzelezz | isn't it like that for most classes? |
| 12:07.24 | jnwhiteh | speccing a druid is stupid simple tho |
| 12:07.31 | jnwhiteh | they had to make it that way, and they succeeded =) |
| 12:07.47 | nevcairiel | before 3.0 resto even went like 0/0/61 |
| 12:08.08 | nevcairiel | which other class can really do that =P |
| 12:09.11 | Fisker | can you configure widgets jnwhiteh? |
| 12:09.28 | jnwhiteh | depends on the widget.. whic? |
| 12:10.11 | Fisker | weather and news widget |
| 12:10.26 | jnwhiteh | you can either have a weather widget, a new widget, or both |
| 12:10.31 | jnwhiteh | but no, that can't becustomized more than that |
| 12:10.39 | jnwhiteh | you can go into the news and weather app and customize the data that it gets. |
| 12:10.48 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 12:12.15 | Fisker | oh yeah |
| 12:12.18 | Fisker | need to l2android |
| 12:12.21 | Fisker | there's the menu button |
| 12:13.05 | jnwhiteh | =) |
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| 12:14.48 | zenzelezz | even in 2.x my warrior had almost all his points in Protection, only five in Arms I think... after 3.0 it's almost worse, not the Protection tree is almost too good |
| 12:15.31 | zenzelezz | *now |
| 12:29.33 | ZorbaBeta | as good as protection is, you really, really want Deep Wounds |
| 12:29.56 | ZorbaBeta | prot warriors are in the rather happy but rather frustrating situation of having more good talents than we have available talent points |
| 12:30.32 | Balreign | 12/8/51 |
| 12:30.49 | Balreign | that's my template for my prot warrior |
| 12:31.20 | ZorbaBeta | so wait, you have everything *but* deep wounds? :P |
| 12:32.53 | ZorbaBeta | the big standards for prot warriors right now revolve around 15/5/51 or 15/3/53, though the actual talents involved can vary a bit (mostly in Cruelty, Shield Spec, Improved Disciplines, and Focused Rage) |
| 12:33.29 | Balreign | http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#LVbc0bZhxZVItrx0zidczsGo |
| 12:33.50 | Fisker | jnwhiteh :( |
| 12:34.11 | Fisker | can only find my phone as mass storage device |
| 12:36.44 | Fisker | durr |
| 12:37.00 | nevcairiel | Hm, SetFontObject doesnt override the font i set with SetFont ? Has anyone expierence with that? |
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| 12:50.08 | Fisker | lol stofa |
| 12:50.13 | Kalroth | 50mbit! |
| 12:52.42 | zenzelezz | I never care for what others think about specs =) |
| 12:53.08 | zenzelezz | my warrior is still specced more for 5-mans, since I'm not in a guild at the moment |
| 12:54.28 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: ? can only find my phone as mass storage |
| 12:54.30 | jnwhiteh | what do you mean |
| 12:54.34 | jnwhiteh | waht else do you want it as? |
| 12:55.47 | Fisker | i figured it out |
| 12:55.48 | Fisker | :3 |
| 12:56.01 | Fisker | i needed the driver so i can root it etc. |
| 12:56.13 | Fisker | but i need to be in bootloader mode to get the right device |
| 13:02.59 | amro | why is programming for windows so damn painful? |
| 13:03.19 | Xinhuan | its painful because they decided to typedef a million unnecessary things |
| 13:03.40 | amro | I spent 1 hour trying to figure out why something wasn't compiling |
| 13:03.54 | amro | LPTSTR vs LPSTR |
| 13:04.02 | amro | it's the work of the devil himself |
| 13:04.29 | amro | don't even think about building a GUI if you're not ready to sell your soul |
| 13:08.58 | amro | this is unbelievable |
| 13:09.01 | amro | I just want a button dammit |
| 13:09.44 | Wobin | I hate guis |
| 13:10.16 | amro | without GUIs you'd be chatting via stdin |
| 13:11.28 | jnwhiteh | hey stdin, what's up? |
| 13:11.29 | amro | I could have written a web browser on top of Qt by now |
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| 13:18.02 | amro | is there a framework that encapsulates this horror and hides it from my eyes? |
| 13:18.06 | Fisker | you wouldn't spdif a stdout |
| 13:19.43 | Wobin | that was geekier than I ever expected from you, Fisker =P |
| 13:20.26 | Fisker | oh u |
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| 13:34.52 | zenzelezz | amro: well, why aren't you using Qt? It works fine on Windows too you know |
| 13:36.07 | nevcairiel | Qt is evil, rather use GTK :P |
| 13:36.16 | zenzelezz | you got those backward |
| 13:36.49 | nevcairiel | GTK is a GUI Tooltik, Qt is some evil incarnation of a kitchen sink |
| 13:37.50 | amro | zenzelezz: I wish I could, but I can't have it as a dependency |
| 13:38.02 | amro | nevcairiel: stop trolling :P |
| 13:38.15 | nevcairiel | i will never stop trolling against Qt! :P |
| 13:38.27 | amro | but they're the trolls |
| 13:38.29 | amro | not us! |
| 13:40.42 | zenzelezz | I'm not going to bother arguing it since we clearly value different things |
| 13:41.26 | zenzelezz | as for Windows, I don't think there are many frameworks that encapsulates most of the Windows API |
| 13:42.14 | amro | yeah can't find any |
| 13:42.32 | nevcairiel | they usually do enough to do what they are designed to do |
| 13:42.34 | amro | this is ridiculous, how come there are so many applications for windows? |
| 13:42.47 | amro | I'd rather write a web application in assmbly |
| 13:43.01 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: yes, but without knowing exactly what it is he's trying to do, it's hard to suggest one |
| 13:43.29 | nevcairiel | If you want abstraction of windows APIs, most devs just turn to .NET |
| 13:43.33 | zenzelezz | amro: there are so many Windows programs because Windows has a huge market share, and because there are many good tools (like Visual Studio) that does stuff for you |
| 13:43.36 | amro | I want to do: Button* b = new Button(); widget->addWidget(b) |
| 13:43.51 | amro | zenzelezz: yeah, but visual studio = $$$ |
| 13:44.09 | zenzelezz | I just buy the standard version, that's cheap enough but still good |
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| 13:44.32 | zenzelezz | the main reason I've yet to really get into coding on linux is because I can't for the life of me find an editor/IDE I like |
| 13:44.37 | amro | still, how can I create widgets at runtime? |
| 13:44.51 | amro | zenzelezz: did you try kdevelop4? |
| 13:44.57 | Balreign | eclipse is fine for me |
| 13:45.03 | amro | it's still in beta, but it's quite nice |
| 13:45.09 | zenzelezz | not sure about 4, but I know I tried some version... didn't like it. Might have been 3 |
| 13:45.10 | amro | for C++ at least |
| 13:45.16 | amro | 3 wasn't good |
| 13:45.40 | amro | 4 has a good code completion and refactoring model |
| 13:46.06 | zenzelezz | might give 4 a go then. The editor from the Qt SDK (Qt Studio? Creator? something like that) is actually somewhat nice |
| 13:46.24 | zenzelezz | but I also have a gripe at the lack of a centralised reference library for linux, like MSDN |
| 13:46.56 | nevcairiel | If you use Qt, they abstract *everything* into Qt-APIs, there you have your central place to look :P |
| 13:47.05 | amro | yep |
| 13:47.12 | zenzelezz | I like Qt, but I don't believe it's the answer to everything |
| 13:47.12 | amro | and the documentation is excellent |
| 13:47.26 | nevcairiel | its the reason i don't like it, it trys to be everything |
| 13:47.30 | amro | zenzelezz: reference for what then? posix api? |
| 13:47.38 | amro | nevcairiel: you can use only what you want |
| 13:47.45 | zenzelezz | amro: whatever is considered to be standard among the myriad of distributions |
| 13:48.02 | amro | manpages |
| 13:48.25 | zenzelezz | those require you to have some knowledge about things already |
| 13:48.40 | nevcairiel | thats usually so when programming :P |
| 13:48.49 | zenzelezz | I'd appreciate a place where you could just browse around different categories of functions to see what was available |
| 13:49.06 | zenzelezz | that's the good part about the MSDN library |
| 13:49.08 | nevcairiel | browse the libc headers :D |
| 13:49.14 | zenzelezz | you're missing my point |
| 13:49.28 | zenzelezz | I could do man pages and header hunting already, but I don't like that |
| 13:50.07 | amro | dunno |
| 13:50.14 | amro | a quick google tells you what you need to know usually |
| 13:50.19 | nevcairiel | so, use wikipedia .. lets say you look for a time related function, you happen to knwo they are in time.h |
| 13:50.23 | nevcairiel | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time.h#Functions |
| 13:50.25 | nevcairiel | tafa! |
| 13:50.30 | nevcairiel | *tada |
| 13:50.58 | zenzelezz | you're still missing the point. Of course I can search google or wikipedia, but that's still not what I want. I want one single central place to look |
| 13:51.03 | zenzelezz | even Apple does that well |
| 13:51.06 | nevcairiel | wikipedia is central |
| 13:51.16 | amro | zenzelezz: and which company is backing all of linux? :P |
| 13:51.26 | nevcairiel | it has a big section on the C Standard Library |
| 13:51.37 | amro | there's documentation on the posix api somewhere |
| 13:51.59 | nevcairiel | I bet you can find other places that have a browseable thing for the C-SL |
| 13:52.24 | zenzelezz | nevcairiel: all right, I used the wrong term. A single *official* place |
| 13:52.35 | nevcairiel | official? there is no such thing |
| 13:52.41 | zenzelezz | and that's what I'm saying I don't like |
| 13:52.45 | nevcairiel | who would mark it official? |
| 13:52.56 | zenzelezz | either way, I'm not saying linux is bad, just that I wish there was something like that |
| 13:52.59 | nevcairiel | you only get official if you use company branded shit like MS APIs |
| 13:53.15 | zenzelezz | and that's why Windows (and even Mac OS) isn't so bad to code for |
| 13:53.24 | zenzelezz | both well documented |
| 13:53.36 | amro | er |
| 13:53.40 | nevcairiel | I have no problem reading a "un-official", yet well written guide to the posix C functions :P |
| 13:53.47 | amro | exactly |
| 13:54.21 | zenzelezz | you sound as if I'm telling you you're all wrong |
| 13:54.28 | zenzelezz | I'm simply stating my opinion about this |
| 13:54.40 | nevcairiel | Your opinion is just silly, what makes a "official" page better? :P |
| 13:55.10 | nevcairiel | You could just read the book by the creators of C |
| 13:55.13 | nevcairiel | ;) |
| 13:55.23 | zenzelezz | you seem to think I use/like C |
| 13:55.31 | nevcairiel | well whatever language |
| 13:55.38 | nevcairiel | their creators wrote a book, usually |
| 13:55.47 | nevcairiel | with a reference |
| 13:55.49 | zenzelezz | I use as much of standard C++ as I can, but I still have to delve into OS-specific stuff |
| 13:56.00 | zenzelezz | and then an official reference comes in handy |
| 13:56.11 | nevcairiel | OS specific is only windows/mac |
| 13:56.14 | zenzelezz | no |
| 13:56.25 | nevcairiel | no-one uses OS specific stuff on linux, its all abstracted in librarys |
| 13:56.37 | nevcairiel | which then have official docs! |
| 13:56.49 | amro | yep |
| 13:56.52 | zenzelezz | and there's five dozen of them for each small bit of functionality |
| 13:57.08 | zenzelezz | so you have to have at least three installed to get your applications to run |
| 13:57.08 | amro | which means that somewhere out there, there's a library just for you |
| 13:57.23 | zenzelezz | which at some point gets abandoned or forked |
| 13:57.23 | amro | unlike windows, installing libraries on linux is easy |
| 13:57.41 | amro | if it's simply a wrapper, there isn't much to fork |
| 13:57.45 | zenzelezz | right, that's why upgrading GTK+ fucks up your system |
| 13:57.46 | zenzelezz | or similar |
| 13:57.52 | nevcairiel | never happend to me, tbh |
| 13:58.10 | nevcairiel | usually that only happens on "bad" distributions with wonky package managers and link-level failures |
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| 13:58.18 | nevcairiel | but thats not linux fault |
| 13:58.21 | zenzelezz | let me boil it down to this. I dislike the linux way, and you're welcome to disagree |
| 13:58.24 | nevcairiel | you can just do a static-link if you want |
| 13:59.30 | amro | zenzelezz: linux has better libraries precisely because of this, else they'd be stuck with old official APIs for the sake of backward compatibility with Quicken 1.0 |
| 13:59.37 | amro | or whatever else |
| 14:01.45 | nevcairiel | Like MS just appends yet another "Ex" to their function names =P |
| 14:17.00 | Fisker | oh nos jnwhiteh :( |
| 14:17.21 | nevcairiel | did you break it already? |
| 14:17.37 | Fisker | i don't know if i did or my provider :P |
| 14:17.58 | Fisker | i was going to search for an app on the market |
| 14:18.07 | Fisker | then it said "data connection failed, retry, etc." |
| 14:18.18 | Fisker | So i figured i'd reboot it just to be sure |
| 14:18.25 | Fisker | and then it had no signal at all |
| 14:18.26 | nevcairiel | that happens sometimes, just click retry |
| 14:18.29 | Fisker | naw |
| 14:18.40 | nevcairiel | the market is somewhat wonky |
| 14:18.49 | Fisker | then i tried to scan for a network and add me to my provider and i got a "This SIM cannot be registered on this network" |
| 14:18.50 | Fisker | :O |
| 14:19.06 | nevcairiel | hah |
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| 14:46.47 | Grum | Fisker: they know who you are |
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| 15:01.19 | zenzelezz | http://failblog.org/2010/01/15/friday-rewind-rock-and-roll-fail/ |
| 15:02.24 | Fisker | naw Grum |
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| 15:14.14 | zenzelezz | http://thisisphotobomb.com/2009/12/16/photobomb-that-guy-msn-mom-bomb/ oops |
| 15:16.23 | Wobin | zenzelezz, I like how the car alarm was almost in time to the music =P |
| 15:16.36 | zenzelezz | Wobin: yeah :) |
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| 15:20.13 | Fisker | slaps Wobin around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:20.14 | Fisker | slaps zenzelezz around a bit with a large trout |
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| 15:48.42 | Wobin | holy crap http://5.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kw8j09gcis1qzou5ko1_500.jpg |
| 15:49.50 | Wobin | Cairenn, http://4.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kw7jauYw871qaqs3eo1_500.jpg <-- *nom* |
| 15:50.30 | Wobin | Cairenn, also http://13.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kw8somZG9A1qapwp3o1_500.jpg |
| 15:53.21 | Cruciformer | anyone here know mysql well? I just want to make a backup of a database such that I can restore to exactly that state after I trash it |
| 15:53.47 | Gnarfoz | 'man mysqldump' |
| 15:54.02 | Cruciformer | tyvm |
| 15:55.39 | Lunessa | Wobin: http://4.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kw7jauYw871qaqs3eo1_500.jp - Your Firefox has spawned too many child processes. Please close unneeded children to proceed. |
| 15:56.09 | Fisker | it won't work Lunessa |
| 15:56.20 | nevcairiel | fail linkage, etc |
| 15:57.33 | Lunessa | http://4.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kw7jauYw871qaqs3eo1_500.jpg |
| 15:57.34 | Lunessa | :P |
| 15:57.44 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: enjoying it? |
| 15:58.18 | Lunessa | jnwhiteh: I bet he fondles it constantly, and refers to it as "my precious." |
| 15:58.19 | Fisker | yeah except EDGE/3G coverage dropped a few hours after i used it :o |
| 15:59.34 | Cruciformer | Gnarfoz: thre are lots of options to mysqldump. Is there a particular set that you liket o use? |
| 16:00.32 | Gnarfoz | not sure, I don't think I've used any options yet |
| 16:01.25 | Gnarfoz | so basically just mysqldump -u user -p database > file.sql |
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| 16:03.30 | Gnarfoz | searching in the man file for "most common use" should show you the usual "dump a complete db" and "import a complete db" examples |
| 16:03.35 | Gnarfoz | reboobs |
| 16:10.16 | Lunessa | ... Please make the stupid stop. |
| 16:10.56 | Lunessa | Some "helpful" event organizer just went to all the classrooms for New Student Orientation and wrote username password combos on all the whiteboards. |
| 16:11.18 | Lunessa | So now my staff is running around erasing it. |
| 16:11.54 | zenzelezz | usernames and passwords for what? Administration? |
| 16:13.12 | Lunessa | We create temporary accounts for network access in those rooms which are then signed out by individuals for each use. The law requires me to log the users. |
| 16:13.24 | Lunessa | And someone just wrote them all on the fucking whiteboards. |
| 16:13.39 | zenzelezz | doh |
| 16:14.23 | Lunessa | Luckily, those accounts don't have e-mail accounts, but the security admin for the campus just tore me a new backside. |
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| 16:35.45 | phood | anyone having problems pulling data off the armory since the face lift? (using php and curl) |
| 16:36.12 | Gnarfoz | not into that, but EU armory shows no 3d models for me at all |
| 16:36.39 | Grum | Gnarfoz: huh no flash orso? (or dont they use flash? O.o) |
| 16:37.07 | Gnarfoz | Grum: of course they use flash |
| 16:37.16 | Gnarfoz | and it just sits there with the empty loading bar |
| 16:37.18 | Gnarfoz | :< |
| 16:37.25 | Grum | you must be hacked! :( |
| 16:37.32 | Gnarfoz | a reasonable suggestion |
| 16:37.33 | Grum | or use an iphone! ;) |
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| 17:01.13 | Fisker | jnwhiteh |
| 17:01.19 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: |
| 17:01.22 | Thunder_Child | s/:// |
| 17:01.29 | Fisker | Thunder_Child |
| 17:01.42 | Thunder_Child | did you get your phone yet Fisker? |
| 17:01.47 | Fisker | yes! |
| 17:02.02 | Thunder_Child | gratz |
| 17:02.31 | Thunder_Child | i am curious though why only the UK gets multi-touch nexus phones |
| 17:02.53 | Fisker | apple has teh multitouch patenzzz |
| 17:02.57 | Fisker | patentzzz* |
| 17:03.41 | Thunder_Child | ah.. |
| 17:04.00 | Thunder_Child | googles to proud to bay apple i see |
| 17:04.41 | Fisker | maybe Thunder_Child |
| 17:04.54 | Thunder_Child | pay* |
| 17:05.27 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: you think apple would refuse? the nexus is prolly going to do rather well |
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| 17:11.33 | zenzelezz | Thunder_Child: not just UK, all of Europe as far as I know |
| 17:11.54 | zenzelezz | I think the patents only apply in the US |
| 17:12.17 | zenzelezz | in other news, I'm interested to see if Apple will settle with Kodak |
| 17:14.09 | Thunder_Child | and canada i would guess |
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| 17:20.02 | zenzelezz | could be, I'm not very familiar with Canada |
| 17:20.04 | zenzelezz | they appear to be trying to be very American in newer laws |
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| 17:27.25 | Fisker | slaps zenzelezz around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:27.28 | Fisker | you |
| 17:27.53 | zenzelezz | no u |
| 17:40.06 | Fisker | no you |
| 17:42.24 | zenzelezz | k |
| 17:42.26 | Thunder_Child | no thou |
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| 17:48.50 | Adys | Q. Will mages ever get to be the true masters of ports? By added more than just the main city's or maybe decide our own areas? |
| 17:48.50 | Adys | A. We've been growing the number of places they can go over time. We'll probably never get to the point where mages ignore ships, mounts or flight paths. |
| 17:48.58 | Adys | ... I thought we were way, way past that |
| 17:49.20 | Thunder_Child | i think they mean for others |
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| 17:51.21 | Thunder_Child | though it would be amusing if you could port more or less anywhere and then make a guild of mages called the floo network or somesuch |
| 17:51.33 | tem | I haven't used a ship since level 30 |
| 17:51.37 | tem | wtf are they talking about? |
| 17:51.53 | Adys | I havent used a flight path since TBC |
| 17:51.56 | cbreak | I used a ship to go to northrend |
| 17:52.03 | Thunder_Child | people that are not mages |
| 17:52.05 | Adys | i went there swimming |
| 17:52.08 | Adys | on my water elemental. |
| 17:52.17 | cbreak | and at level 30 to get the dalaran portal |
| 17:52.22 | cbreak | I mean... darnassus |
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| 17:58.06 | Lunessa | I certainly hope it never gets like EQ where mages could teleport to nearly every zone (solo and group versions) and could set a self-teleport to any map location. |
| 17:58.36 | Thunder_Child | mmmm...mark and recall |
| 17:59.18 | cbreak | why? It'd be fun |
| 18:00.36 | Adys | A MMo that wants its users to keep enjoying outdoor content needs to limit its access |
| 18:01.01 | cbreak | doesn't enjoy flying around in northrend anymore |
| 18:01.07 | Adys | exactly |
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| 18:18.06 | Lunessa | I feel differently about it. And with "Teleport to Dungeon" wtf do mages need more ports? |
| 18:34.54 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* why are WAP's so damn expensive |
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| 19:03.50 | Bruners | would GetSpellCooldown() work for spells the character doesn't have? |
| 19:04.15 | nevcairiel | i believe it only works if a spell is actually on cooldown |
| 19:04.50 | nevcairiel | or if it always works, depends .. does it accept spell ids? |
| 19:04.51 | Adys | !api getspellco |
| 19:04.51 | lua_bot | Found 2 possible results for 'getspellco': GetSpellCooldown, GetSpellCount |
| 19:04.54 | Adys | !api getspellcoo |
| 19:04.54 | lua_bot | GetSpellCooldown: Returns cooldown information about a spell in the spellbook (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/GetSpellCooldown) |
| 19:05.11 | nevcairiel | only your own spells, then |
| 19:05.18 | Adys | it wont then yea |
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| 19:16.01 | Fisker | jnwhiteh ! |
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| 19:23.52 | Kalroth | http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/popular-mmorpg.jpg is this you fisker |
| 19:28.45 | Fisker | yes Kalroth |
| 19:40.24 | Lunessa | Kalroth: Isn't that /most/ of us? |
| 19:43.58 | Dagmar | I think most of the people in here wouldn't bother putting Cheerwine in a fluted glass |
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| 19:57.39 | Thunder_Child | for all that i know about computers i have to admit that OC escapes me |
| 20:00.58 | tem | Orange County? |
| 20:01.07 | Thunder_Child | Over Clocking |
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| 20:03.53 | Trela | Why do you say this, Thunder_Child? |
| 20:04.24 | Thunder_Child | Trela: ...because it escapes me? |
| 20:04.35 | Trela | I mean, why do you think it does? :P |
| 20:05.03 | tem | cog|away, ping? |
| 20:05.23 | Thunder_Child | because it pisses me off evey time i try to do it properly |
| 20:05.36 | Trela | Ah. |
| 20:05.45 | Trela | It does require unlimited patience. |
| 20:07.30 | Thunder_Child | patience i have, understanding i dont. |
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| 20:12.30 | mitchnull | then just don't do it? :) |
| 20:14.52 | Lunessa | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1385-Torchlight - old --- but ficking funny |
| 20:15.34 | Dagmar | So true about the loot tho |
| 20:15.50 | Dagmar | So Monte Haul |
| 20:16.01 | Dagmar | i <3 Torchlight |
| 20:17.06 | Thunder_Child | cant help it, all of my hardware is made for overclocking |
| 20:17.32 | Lunessa | I like comparing the value of the game to buying an ice cream sandwich. |
| 20:19.45 | Fisker | but old Lunessa |
| 20:21.19 | Thunder_Child | like you Fisker |
| 20:22.52 | Trela | Lunessa: That is only three days ago. |
| 20:23.23 | Lunessa | I had to say old because for Fisker if it's not the Nexus One or wasn't on the web 35 seconds ago, he says "old" |
| 20:24.20 | Fisker | saying old only makes me say old even more |
| 20:26.03 | Thunder_Child | ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooold |
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| 20:38.29 | augustl | what would be a good way to detect "Last boss in 5 man instance completed?" |
| 20:38.37 | augustl | or more generally, "5 man instance completed" |
| 20:39.00 | augustl | detecting zoning in and out could work. Is it possible to know if the player is in an instance or not? |
| 20:39.14 | mikma | augustl: DungeonTimer |
| 20:39.21 | augustl | tnx |
| 20:39.28 | PProvost | :D |
| 20:39.41 | PProvost | I trap boss IDs for those who die and boss emotes for those who don't |
| 20:40.04 | augustl | hah |
| 20:40.16 | mikma | pprovost: you have that in ping-list?? |
| 20:40.19 | PProvost | You can see it all in DungeonTimer |
| 20:40.24 | PProvost | mikma: what? |
| 20:40.35 | mikma | oh nothing |
| 20:40.49 | PProvost | ping list? |
| 20:41.16 | mikma | the moment i mentioned DT you woke up |
| 20:41.38 | PProvost | I have a higlight queue for it in weechat |
| 20:42.14 | PProvost | and I just happened to be looking over here |
| 20:42.16 | mikma | yeah, pÄing-list ;) |
| 20:42.20 | mikma | ping* |
| 20:42.20 | PProvost | highlight |
| 20:42.57 | PProvost | http://github.com/PProvost/weechat-scripts/blob/master/highlight.lua |
| 20:42.59 | PProvost | :P |
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| 21:09.01 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* is blizz ever going to fix showing zone only quests? |
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| 21:19.07 | Fisker | wwhen is blizzard ever gonna ban you Thunder_Child ? |
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| 21:22.36 | mikma | no |
| 21:23.03 | Lej | if you create a DressUpModel frame and :SetCamera(2) to get a freely movable camera |
| 21:23.14 | Lej | how do you accually move the camera? |
| 21:26.10 | Fisker | my Thunder_Child died at the wrathgate |
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| 21:36.50 | Thunder_Child | they baned me already Fisker |
| 21:37.01 | Fisker | did your Fisker die at the wrathgate? |
| 21:37.20 | Thunder_Child | no, my Fisker lives on |
| 21:39.36 | Fisker | sweet |
| 21:39.56 | cbreak | Hacker Jeopardy! |
| 21:40.11 | Fisker | old |
| 21:43.35 | augustl | PProvost: want: a LibBossKill :) |
| 21:48.26 | ScytheBlade1 | I just realized that back in my first raiding guild, in BWL, the chick who kept going afk saying she worked in a 911 call center... actually worked in a 911 call center |
| 21:49.03 | ScytheBlade1 | hence http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2008/11/17/ is incredibly amusing to me |
| 21:49.50 | Fisker | oh great |
| 21:49.54 | Fisker | that's pretty fucking retarded |
| 21:49.56 | NeoTron | heh. trying to log into sto beta and it's "busy". :P can't even get to the login screen |
| 21:50.04 | Fisker | there's no internal cooldown between decimate and the nature aoe |
| 21:50.17 | Fisker | just had it decimate us and do the aoe at the same time = 10 instant dead |
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| 21:52.47 | DWSR | Which instance should I farm enchanting mats for around 155 enchanting? I need Soul Dust and Astral Essence. |
| 21:53.35 | Fisker | AH |
| 21:54.22 | Seerah | SM |
| 21:56.48 | DWSR | SM Lib? |
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| 21:59.53 | Fisker | AH |
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| 22:09.46 | augustl | LibSM. Woo! |
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| 22:14.49 | Floo | hello - can I make number that always have + or - before them? |
| 22:15.11 | Floo | without if then |
| 22:15.58 | Cide | look up string.format |
| 22:16.48 | Floo | and which "letter" to use pls? |
| 22:17.10 | Floo | its "signed" number? |
| 22:17.25 | Cide | look up string.format |
| 22:19.27 | Floo | http://www.wowwiki.com/API_format nothing about that |
| 22:19.53 | Cide | um |
| 22:20.05 | Cide | maybe you should use a source such as www.lua.org given that it's an official lua api |
| 22:20.24 | Cide | also, there is a link on that page that contains everything you want |
| 22:20.36 | Cide | on the page you linked, that is |
| 22:21.52 | Floo | yes I found it |
| 22:22.11 | Floo | but I dont know how flag work :( |
| 22:24.51 | Thunder_Child | http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/4/2010/01/500x_gods_control_buttons.jpg |
| 22:25.30 | PProvost | http://lua-users.org/wiki/StringLibraryTutorial |
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| 22:42.10 | Lunessa | TC - he spends a lot of time using the "DENY" button. |
| 22:42.36 | Thunder_Child | depends on the situation |
| 22:43.53 | Cruciformer | does anyone know of a site where I can paste an image like we can paste code at pastey.net? |
| 22:44.05 | zenzelezz | lots of places |
| 22:44.11 | zenzelezz | think imageshack.us or something is popular |
| 22:44.13 | Cruciformer | i just need 1 :) |
| 22:44.15 | PProvost | imageshack.us |
| 22:44.19 | Cruciformer | tyvm |
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| 22:46.04 | DWSR | Cruciformer: tinypic, hdimage, imageshack. |
| 22:47.14 | Cruciformer | much obliged. imageshack worked just fine. |
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| 22:58.15 | DJJeff | lol freenode is getting spammed |
| 22:58.31 | DJJeff | and making demands for the spam to stop |
| 22:58.36 | DJJeff | pretty lol |
| 22:58.45 | DWSR | thereby spamming more. |
| 22:58.57 | Dagmar | Read the announcement. |
| 22:59.11 | Dagmar | The spam is effectively a virus with an "idiot user" propagation element |
| 22:59.27 | DJJeff | what announcement? |
| 22:59.31 | Thunder_Child | which means 95% propigation |
| 22:59.35 | DWSR | ^^ |
| 22:59.50 | Dagmar | tomaw sent out a wallop about it not very long ago |
| 23:01.20 | Thunder_Child | a lot of people have sent one out |
| 23:01.39 | Thunder_Child | chirstel kloeri LoRez etc. |
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| 23:12.01 | DJJeff | ping? |
| 23:12.01 | harl | PONG! |
| 23:12.04 | DJJeff | TY |
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| 23:14.28 | DJJeff | hrmmmmmmm Curse.com Client seems to be very CPU intensive running by itself (nothing in the background) |
| 23:14.36 | DJJeff | what could be causing that? |
| 23:14.48 | zenzelezz | it's probably doing stuff |
| 23:14.54 | DJJeff | ya |
| 23:15.08 | DJJeff | when its scanning for updates |
| 23:15.15 | Duman | hmm |
| 23:15.23 | DJJeff | and downloading new addon list |
| 23:15.26 | DJJeff | and launching |
| 23:15.29 | Duman | still lots of people on this channel where the server thinks they aren't on it :( |
| 23:15.32 | DJJeff | it jumps to 100% CPU |
| 23:16.03 | Sixen | hai taner. |
| 23:16.14 | Duman | yo dude |
| 23:17.03 | Thunder_Child | DJJeff: i know :( take off the fancy GUI and works better |
| 23:17.28 | DJJeff | hrmmmmm |
| 23:17.36 | DJJeff | is there an option todo this? |
| 23:18.12 | Thunder_Child | DJJeff: Option -> Appearance -> theme -> other than aero |
| 23:18.34 | Thunder_Child | DJJeff: there is also under the advanced tab |
| 23:18.54 | Thunder_Child | err...sorry, not the thtme |
| 23:18.56 | Thunder_Child | theme |
| 23:19.46 | Thunder_Child | i liked the old one better, it used dick in the way of resources |
| 23:19.48 | Fisker | slaps Thunder_Child around a bit with a large trout |
| 23:20.33 | Thunder_Child | thank you Fisker, i will cherish it always |
| 23:20.45 | DJJeff | other than AREO lol thats what I was using |
| 23:20.47 | DJJeff | *sigh* |
| 23:20.56 | DJJeff | gonna switch it and restart |
| 23:20.59 | Thunder_Child | DJJeff: uh, see other |
| 23:21.16 | Thunder_Child | DJJeff: not theme, i meant advanced |
| 23:21.19 | Thunder_Child | tab |
| 23:21.24 | DJJeff | oh |
| 23:21.26 | DJJeff | just sec |
| 23:22.01 | Thunder_Child | though i prefer black myself |
| 23:23.49 | DJJeff | Gray is more intensive then Aero was |
| 23:24.17 | DJJeff | I will choose black |
| 23:24.56 | Thunder_Child | it's using about 3.5 MB of ram while i am browsing it |
| 23:25.28 | Thunder_Child | though it does jump to 30 when scrolling |
| 23:25.40 | DJJeff | the RAM is fine........ its my CPU that sucks |
| 23:25.46 | DJJeff | or GPU |
| 23:28.30 | Fisker | oh nos jnwhiteh |
| 23:28.31 | DJJeff | ya same here... 1MB when idle 20MB when sliding the list |
| 23:36.05 | Arrowmaster | i just burnt a CD at 63.7x |
| 23:36.11 | Arrowmaster | i think it miscalculated |
| 23:38.20 | zenzelezz | small amount of data to burn? |
| 23:38.38 | Thunder_Child | ^^ |
| 23:39.00 | Arrowmaster | 1.3mb |
| 23:39.08 | Thunder_Child | that would do it |
| 23:39.28 | Arrowmaster | but still it couldnt have burnt at 63.7x |
| 23:39.44 | zenzelezz | such calculations can often be inaccurate when they happen too quickly |
| 23:39.54 | Arrowmaster | right |
| 23:40.42 | zenzelezz | you can often see the same with download speed calculations for tiny files |
| 23:41.27 | Thunder_Child | though you should be slaped for burning a disk with 1.3 mb |
| 23:41.42 | Arrowmaster | i didnt make the iso |
| 23:41.56 | zenzelezz | memtest86? |
| 23:41.59 | Thunder_Child | you can boot iso's off of flash drives |
| 23:42.16 | Arrowmaster | and i was going to mess with grub4dos since it seems to be able to boot isos off of flash drives but i got lazy |
| 23:42.43 | Arrowmaster | and i have like 170+ CDRs |
| 23:43.00 | Arrowmaster | mabye more |
| 23:43.25 | Arrowmaster | im going to reboot and flash my harddrive firmware now |
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