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| 00:45.02 | Kraps | whoa a cape with a gem |
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| 00:55.11 | DJJeff | ummmmmmm Decursive is screaming at me to update to Release but there is not update to download? |
| 00:55.34 | DJJeff | the version I have is from 1/1/2010 |
| 00:56.01 | DJJeff | 2.4.5.1 |
| 00:57.38 | DJJeff | I guess I will submit a ticket about it |
| 00:57.46 | DJJeff | just thought I would ask in here first |
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| 01:07.03 | Ancu | hello all |
| 01:07.28 | Ancu | cant play wow right now, so I'm gona talk about it instead |
| 01:17.33 | Kraps | Ancu: whats wow? |
| 01:18.32 | Ancu | World of Warcraft, what else |
| 01:18.46 | Kraps | whats that |
| 01:20.03 | Kraps | and who am i |
| 01:20.10 | Ancu | sigh |
| 01:20.20 | Adys | what does sigh mean |
| 01:20.23 | Ancu | and where are you |
| 01:20.33 | Kraps | what is this |
| 01:20.43 | Ancu | oh yeah, wowuidev |
| 01:20.44 | Kraps | is this thing on? |
| 01:21.04 | Ancu | SCREW YOU ALL! and not in a literal way! :P |
| 01:21.32 | Kraps | literal sounds good to me |
| 01:21.38 | Kraps | i like reading |
| 01:22.07 | kd3 | whee 38/40 |
| 01:22.49 | Adys | FUCK YOU JEKLIK :( |
| 01:22.59 | Adys | bloody shit fucked mechanics with deep freeze |
| 01:23.05 | Adys | DF doesnt work on her at all... gfg |
| 01:23.50 | Kraps | http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=22418977964&postId=224165722668&sid=1#15 |
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| 01:37.17 | mascondante | As some of you already know I'm fairly new to programming. I'm trying to reverse engineer something to find it's problem. Anyone want to take a crack at helping me? |
| 01:37.38 | Dagmar | inhales the waves of uncaring |
| 01:38.18 | mascondante | assumed as much |
| 01:38.21 | Dagmar | You'll have to be more specific if you intend to pique anyone's interest. |
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| 01:39.17 | mascondante | It's a module for auction canceling. sec. |
| 01:40.09 | Dagmar | Why do you need a module to cancel auctions? |
| 01:40.54 | mascondante | purpose is to cancel auctions based on selected conditions i.e. undercut |
| 01:41.23 | Dagmar | You have fun with that then |
| 01:41.59 | Dagmar | There's only one reason I can think of to be doing that, and I don't support leeching value from a _game_ economy |
| 01:44.49 | mascondante | I don't really care for getting undercut seconds after I post either but it's happening and I'm trying to find some way to get this guy to stop his crap. I thought the fight fire with fire approach would be sufficent. |
| 01:45.31 | mascondante | not something I planned or releasing or abusing. |
| 01:45.41 | Jerub | imho, you're free to do whatever you want. the market has a mechanic to punish you for doing so, and if you feel okay with that mechanic, that's fine. |
| 01:46.36 | Dagmar | It's a game economy. That "punishment" doesn't really exist |
| 01:47.07 | Jerub | Dagmar: it's an extra money sink. |
| 01:47.37 | Jerub | it exists in the sense that every other money sink punishes you for not being awesome. i.e. needing reagents, wiping in raids, etc. |
| 01:48.21 | Dagmar | Yeah but it's not enough to discourage gratuitous speculation |
| 01:50.32 | mascondante | at any rate the problem exists in dealing with the hardware event. |
| 01:52.29 | NightHawkTheSane | huh |
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| 01:52.39 | NightHawkTheSane | apparently you can lock people out of the gal'darah encounter in gundrak |
| 01:53.14 | Dagmar | This "punshment" is not enough to make it unprofitable for someone to deliberately sack various commodities |
| 01:53.25 | Dagmar | Oh, I thought the "huh" was directed at me |
| 01:53.38 | NightHawkTheSane | no, sorry :) |
| 01:54.12 | Adys | finally |
| 01:54.14 | Adys | got the bitch |
| 01:55.58 | Adys | did they fix the zg tiger boss trick? |
| 01:56.07 | Jerub | gal'darah? |
| 01:56.13 | Adys | thekal |
| 01:56.24 | Jerub | I did OK last night. I freaking hate that instance. |
| 01:56.32 | Adys | I said ZG |
| 01:56.44 | NightHawkTheSane | Adys: tiger boss rick? |
| 01:56.47 | NightHawkTheSane | trick* |
| 01:56.53 | Adys | the bug to put him in phase 2 instantly |
| 01:56.53 | Jerub | our healer was subpar too, which didn't excite me. i prefer to chainpull all the way through instances i hate. |
| 01:57.08 | NightHawkTheSane | :o didn't know there was such a bug |
| 02:07.12 | Kraps | semi-wipe on voa lightning guy |
| 02:10.26 | Jerub | Kraps: dps not switching to adds? |
| 02:10.39 | Kraps | seems so |
| 02:10.45 | Jerub | I always tank the adds. that way Ican /rw SWITCH TO THE FUCKING ADDS |
| 02:10.56 | Jerub | (plus, 3.5k dps from a tank comes in handy there too ;) |
| 02:11.14 | Kraps | i think we did, i didnt die but suddenly half the raid was dead |
| 02:11.31 | Kraps | i died after switching back |
| 02:11.45 | Jerub | weird. |
| 02:12.16 | Kraps | Jerub: are you a pally? |
| 02:13.41 | Jerub | no, druid. |
| 02:14.03 | Kraps | well I HATE YOU ANYWAY |
| 02:14.11 | Jerub | feel free. |
| 02:14.19 | NightHawkTheSane | meh, most tank classes can put out pretty decent dps |
| 02:14.21 | NightHawkTheSane | these days |
| 02:14.32 | Kraps | (breaks down in warrior tears) |
| 02:14.36 | Jerub | bear tanks sharing so much gear with dps leather helps. |
| 02:14.38 | Dagmar | 3.5k is good from a tank |
| 02:14.51 | Jerub | I only got 3.5k once, it was pretty exceptional. |
| 02:14.55 | Dagmar | ...although I'm sure raid buffs prolly help |
| 02:14.59 | Jerub | I average 2.5k, I've hit 3k in h hor. |
| 02:15.20 | Jerub | I wanna go back to kitty :( |
| 02:15.32 | Dagmar | Man I was sustaining 3700 last week in HHOR and we were still getting pantsed |
| 02:15.42 | Dagmar | That thing is MEAN |
| 02:16.05 | Jerub | Dagmar: as tank or dps? |
| 02:16.10 | Dagmar | As DPS |
| 02:16.12 | Jerub | Dagmar: was that on the escape, or the waves? |
| 02:16.19 | Dagmar | That was through the whole thing |
| 02:16.26 | Jerub | oh, right. |
| 02:16.37 | Jerub | see, if i die in the waves, i say, "good luck" and leave |
| 02:16.55 | Jerub | I've never succesffully healed it either. |
| 02:16.56 | Dagmar | We've been through it (to various degrees) so many times I could proably run it in my sleep now |
| 02:17.09 | Jerub | You really need a tank like me and a MT healer. (my tree is an adequate raid healer) |
| 02:17.39 | Jerub | i live through it mostly. but it requires gear. |
| 02:17.45 | Dagmar | yeah our tank and one other person were having a low DPS night or we'd have gotten it on the first try |
| 02:18.00 | NightHawkTheSane | all you need is 5 people who dont suck, and aren't in fresh 80 gear |
| 02:18.31 | Kraps | i did it on normal once, first bosses were fine, wiped 3 time on LK before we straggled to the end |
| 02:18.42 | Jerub | NightHawkTheSane: for hor, sure, but hhor requires Gear. if I don't see 4T9 and total purple, I'm skeptical. |
| 02:18.55 | Kraps | couldnt get past 3 waves on heroic |
| 02:19.06 | NightHawkTheSane | Jerub: I've done it with people in far less gear than that. |
| 02:19.27 | Jerub | NightHawkTheSane: good players of course can compensate, but as i said. |
| 02:19.35 | Jerub | I leave on the first wipe on the first 5 waves. |
| 02:19.40 | NightHawkTheSane | like i said, players who dont suck :) |
| 02:20.03 | Dagmar | You need more than just "slighly better htan new 80" gear |
| 02:20.11 | Dagmar | The escape phase is a RUTHLESS gear check |
| 02:20.43 | Dagmar | I'm gonna say it falls somewhere between averaging 213-219 ilevel as a minimum |
| 02:21.11 | Dagmar | ...and someone better be rocking some T9 in there if everyone's that or you won't be making it out in heroic mode |
| 02:21.29 | NightHawkTheSane | *shrug* if youre talking mouth breathing pugs, i suppose sure |
| 02:22.38 | Jerub | i always talk about mouth breathing pugs |
| 02:22.43 | NightHawkTheSane | i mean, yeah, its probably the hardest heroic, period. But it really doesn't require people in t9 to do. |
| 02:23.01 | Dagmar | Nah, we failed it PLENTY of times on our fresh 80 alts |
| 02:23.18 | Jerub | i maintain that it requires at least T9 level gear. |
| 02:23.28 | NightHawkTheSane | you're wrong. :) |
| 02:23.31 | Jerub | if that's 4T8.5, that's basically the same. ;) |
| 02:23.33 | Dagmar | The length of the fight means you don't waste mana |
| 02:23.55 | Dagmar | If you waste it you run out and then either your DPS stops and Arthas catches up, or your heals stop and the trash eats you |
| 02:24.27 | Dagmar | Our alts are wobbling around 208 an it wans't happening for them |
| 02:24.56 | Dagmar | We could generally get through the trash (which isn't even a problem on our mains because we _like_ CC) but the escape phase we'd just get mauled |
| 02:25.54 | Dagmar | Hell, I'll go far as to say if everyone can't sustain 2200-2400 DPS while _moving_ you stand no hope of getting away |
| 02:26.40 | NightHawkTheSane | o_0 you dont need to dps while moving |
| 02:26.59 | Dagmar | The only time it's ever seemed even remotely easy we had shaman/paladin/hunter/mage/spriest and went berzerk on the place |
| 02:27.15 | Dagmar | I got to the end trying to figure out how the hell i did 4700 on a 5-man |
| 02:28.06 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: You *need* to DPS while moving because if you just wait for the Arthas trash to come *to* you, you will piss away many many valuable seconds |
| 02:28.33 | Dagmar | If moving around drops your average deeps below 2000 like it does a lot of people, that part will be hard |
| 02:28.37 | NightHawkTheSane | Dagmar: more than once i've just sat at the wall and let teh trash come to me, and we made it out fine |
| 02:28.57 | Dagmar | You were probably wearing a bunch of 10/25-man gear were you not? |
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| 02:29.42 | NightHawkTheSane | not really. i typically do it on my alts, mostly geared from heroics so anything ranging from 200-232 |
| 02:30.11 | Dagmar | You don't hear your groupmates muttering "carrybitch" under their breath do you? ;) |
| 02:30.18 | NightHawkTheSane | not really |
| 02:30.38 | NightHawkTheSane | especially since i'm either putting out comparable dps, or healing their sorry asses |
| 02:30.59 | Dagmar | Assuming that LK doesn't walk any faster in heroic than he does in regular, we did a LOT Of screwing around in regular mode to try to figure out the best approach on that escape |
| 02:31.10 | NightHawkTheSane | but i also usually do it with friends/guild, and i know they dont suck |
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| 02:31.28 | Dagmar | Jaina moves after the trash have been killed not before, so one of the few things you can do to hurry her up is rush that trash |
| 02:32.00 | Dagmar | The first wave of "barely trash" doesn't give you much leeway. That second and third phase tho can get you a lot of time |
| 02:32.53 | Dagmar | We wound up being a good 15-30 seconds ahead each time we bumrushed the trash |
| 02:32.59 | Dagmar | per wave |
| 02:33.19 | Dagmar | We were specifically trying to get that new achievement for fleeing like chickens on turboskates |
| 02:33.22 | Bruners | is bored |
| 02:33.23 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, im not saying it wouldn't help, but it's also not really required, even for an appropriately geared group. |
| 02:33.41 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, if you're going for the achievement, you're going to want to burn shit down asap. |
| 02:33.54 | Dagmar | if by "appropriately geared" you mean "people who won't find more than one upgrade in here" like Blizz thinks, then sure |
| 02:34.05 | NightHawkTheSane | not at all. |
| 02:34.11 | Dagmar | Nobody's doing that thing for a bunch of sidegrades |
| 02:34.15 | Jerub | Dagmar: have you got that achievement yet? |
| 02:34.21 | Jerub | I did it while farming hhor the other day |
| 02:34.29 | Dagmar | Jerub: Nope... Still working on it |
| 02:34.52 | Dagmar | Mainly we've not had all our mains back in there at once since the first night when we pounded our faces on hte place until we figured it out |
| 02:35.00 | Jerub | i'm enjoying doing heroics at the moment. i always get at least one guildmate in when i do my daily random, |
| 02:35.32 | Dagmar | I'm not kidding when I say we got so irked aobut that escape bit we went back out and did the whole thing in regular three times in a row to look for ways we could buy more time |
| 02:35.57 | Jerub | i think the key to getting the achivement is MASSIVE DPS |
| 02:36.08 | Jerub | stuff like blust, horn of winter, 10% kings. |
| 02:36.14 | Dagmar | Hell yes it is lol |
| 02:36.33 | NightHawkTheSane | i think it's more about coordination & focus fire |
| 02:36.49 | Jerub | NightHawkTheSane: meh. after a certain point only raw dps counts. |
| 02:40.59 | WobWork1 | got "We're not retreating" on the first run |
| 02:41.24 | WobWork1 | although I admit, doing it 'reversed' is faster than normal |
| 02:41.33 | WobWork1 | not that we did it that way, that time |
| 02:41.50 | Dagmar | WobWork1: That's because the time it takes you to start killing the trash is 0 seconds |
| 02:42.34 | Kraps | this fos is painful |
| 02:43.01 | Dagmar | NightHawkTheSane: Focusfire is really only going to matter there if a) not doing so means someone on your side dies or b) your healer is also DPSing and can't DPS because he's having to heal you people |
| 02:44.00 | Dagmar | Ther'es probably people who got the "we're not retreating" achievement by trailing Arthas who would never be able to do it the "right" way |
| 02:44.44 | Jerub | fos is easy. |
| 02:44.53 | Jerub | the best bit is where you get to kill someone with soul mirror. |
| 02:45.26 | Dagmar | lol |
| 02:45.28 | NightHawkTheSane | Jerub: what's fun is running it with 4 guildies, and intentionally killing the pug. :P |
| 02:45.45 | Jerub | NightHawkTheSane: that's mean. |
| 02:45.48 | Jerub | but awaysome |
| 02:45.48 | Dagmar | Yeah twice I've told someone "Sorry man we'll res you in a minute" and popped Kill Shot |
| 02:45.54 | NightHawkTheSane | Jerub: but funny as hell |
| 02:45.57 | Dagmar | BLAM 14k damage |
| 02:46.15 | Dagmar | I ain't gonna feel bad about that since I've done it to myself too |
| 02:46.42 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah, i once watched a DK pop army of the deaad, get soul mirrored, and proceed to watch as his army murdered him |
| 02:46.48 | Dagmar | rofl |
| 02:47.15 | Dagmar | I'll have to remember to mention that to our guild. NO ARMY on that guy heh |
| 02:47.47 | WobWork | I hate AotD |
| 02:48.00 | NightHawkTheSane | me too, but right then, i loved it. :P |
| 02:48.01 | WobWork | the opportunities to use it effectively are so few and far between |
| 02:48.21 | WobWork | so most DKs just whip it out whenever there's a stiff breeze |
| 02:49.25 | Dagmar | I can see why the unforeseen results could make that totally awesome |
| 02:49.26 | Torhal | WobWork: Sounds like a 15-year-old male. |
| 02:49.47 | Jerub | aotd is awesome for pissing off rage tanks |
| 02:50.17 | Dagmar | Meeeean |
| 02:50.42 | Dagmar | So far I just only hate it when someone pops it on a dragon |
| 02:50.58 | Dagmar | Seeing that tail whip every which way does _not_ fill me with glee |
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| 02:53.21 | WobWork | Dagmar: http://community.livejournal.com/dear_gnome/447012.html |
| 02:54.03 | WobWork | Torhal: funny, that... You think there might be some connection? |
| 02:54.24 | Dagmar | Very likely, considering that's the very boss I saw that being done on last week |
| 02:54.54 | Torhal | WobWork: Mayhap |
| 02:54.56 | Dagmar | ...but considering that I saw someone do it in Violet Hold two hours later, I begin to suspect that pugging DKs think it's funny to play Russian Roulette on the last boss |
| 02:56.18 | WobWork | As a healer, I just don't heal the DK for the rest of the fight =P |
| 02:56.26 | Dagmar | Sounds like a plan |
| 02:58.17 | ajmitch | sounds like a DK needing a quick vote kick if they're wiping the group because of it |
| 03:03.25 | Kraps | not sure how that debuff works, if you get marked only your damage hurt you or everyones? |
| 03:03.51 | ajmitch | everyone's damage hurts you, I think it is |
| 03:04.02 | NightHawkTheSane | the last boss in FoS? yes |
| 03:04.11 | NightHawkTheSane | any damage done to the boss is done to whoever is mirrored |
| 03:04.27 | ajmitch | the one for scourgelord tyrannus has your damage hurting the tank |
| 03:04.35 | ajmitch | both are great fun in pugs |
| 03:05.02 | Kraps | scourgelord tyrannus is the boss in fos |
| 03:05.18 | Kraps | you mean the devourer? |
| 03:05.18 | ajmitch | he's in PoS |
| 03:05.59 | Kraps | dammit |
| 03:06.00 | ajmitch | 2 different debuffs, both trip up people who can't control themselves |
| 03:06.02 | Kraps | hang on |
| 03:06.40 | Kraps | yeah i was in *P*os now |
| 03:07.02 | ajmitch | then that's the one that hurts the tank |
| 03:07.13 | Kraps | ah |
| 03:07.26 | Kraps | "primary target" |
| 03:07.43 | ajmitch | and it's only the person with the debuff who hurts the tank there, or heals the boss if they're a healer |
| 03:08.37 | NightHawkTheSane | that debuff amuses me as a druid healer |
| 03:08.45 | Kraps | the fos one hurts yourself |
| 03:08.48 | NightHawkTheSane | "oh, hey, i have hots rolling on just about everyone.. oh well." |
| 03:11.50 | Kraps | the devourer is a she? |
| 03:12.53 | NightHawkTheSane | i dont think the devourer really has a definable sex. |
| 03:13.00 | Adys | ~ping |
| 03:13.01 | purl | ~pong |
| 03:13.56 | Kraps | NightHawkTheSane: the aggro line always freaks me out |
| 03:14.23 | Kraps | kinda screechy and grating |
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| 03:18.42 | ajmitch | Kraps: better than the 5 minutes of lady deathwhisper monologue |
| 03:19.06 | Kraps | 5 minutes? |
| 03:19.19 | Kraps | i'll have to check that out |
| 03:19.20 | ajmitch | well not quite, but it seems like it when I have sound on |
| 03:19.23 | Kraps | lol |
| 03:19.35 | Kraps | what do you think of this? http://www.wowhead.com/?compare=46162;50285 |
| 03:21.22 | ajmitch | you could lose a bit of health without those sockets |
| 03:22.57 | Kraps | 423.4 to be exact |
| 03:23.31 | Kraps | i have the tier piece stacked with health gems and chant |
| 03:24.00 | Kraps | i dont think thats too bad |
| 03:24.20 | Kraps | i would put +10 to stats on the other one |
| 03:24.44 | ajmitch | it's useful to have a couple of different options |
| 03:26.00 | Dagmar | The nightmare tear is handy if you're not specifically looking to collect stamina |
| 03:26.33 | NightHawkTheSane | i dunno if i'd bother with a nightmare tear except to meet meta gem requirements |
| 03:26.51 | NightHawkTheSane | for a tank, its not really useful, as you can easily just socket an appropriate hybrid and probably get more benefit |
| 03:28.51 | Kraps | i have 33.6 health and i dont raid |
| 03:29.04 | Kraps | 33.6k |
| 03:31.15 | Kraps | and ive never seen a battered hilt drop |
| 03:34.34 | NightHawkTheSane | wouldn't be useful for tanking anyway |
| 03:36.40 | Kraps | which is sad, because a 251 tank weapon would kick ass, but i can get a dps weapon from it |
| 03:39.05 | NightHawkTheSane | there are 251 tank weapons. |
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| 03:39.50 | ajmitch | dropping from the nice & easy first boss in ICC |
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| 03:40.34 | Guest20705 | opinion question for whoever's around: which site should I submit addons I've created to, and why? |
| 03:40.42 | Guest20705 | and aww it changed my nick -.- |
| 03:42.16 | NightHawkTheSane | whichever one(s) you want. |
| 03:42.20 | NightHawkTheSane | youre not limited to just one. |
| 03:42.54 | Guest20705 | okay, well, I only want to worry about one site for now, and i've only got 2 addons to post... but yeah, any pros/cons for any of them? |
| 03:44.33 | Kraps | wowi is cooler /thread |
| 03:45.38 | Guest20705 | -.- What is this licensing stuff and which should I be choosing? -.- *new to this* |
| 03:46.07 | NightHawkTheSane | the license you choose determines how other people can use your code |
| 03:46.27 | NightHawkTheSane | you might want to search google & wikipedia for the specifics of individual licenses, and what they mean |
| 03:47.39 | Guest20705 | I'm not sure I care if people use my code, lots of folks on here have been pretty helpful and I've tried to credit where I could, but... yeah is there one "if you copy my code, leave credit on the chunk"? |
| 03:47.56 | Guest20705 | sorry if I sound lazy, I'm actually in a hurry with this ;( |
| 03:48.58 | NightHawkTheSane | there are licenses that are basically that, yes. i can't think of one off the top of my head, but you -really- ought to look them up yourself to make sure you understand what they mean and imply. |
| 03:49.42 | Guest20705 | mmm yeah I'm sure you're right... on curse, can I go back and change my license later? |
| 03:49.42 | NightHawkTheSane | you can always just leave it without a license, which makes it All Rights Reserved, and then add one later on |
| 03:49.53 | Guest20705 | alright, I'll do that |
| 03:49.55 | Guest20705 | thanks ;D |
| 04:01.11 | Guest20705 | for curseforge, can I upload a .rar or do I have to upload all files individually? |
| 04:02.11 | Bruners | i think most users would prefer zip but yes |
| 04:02.21 | Guest20705 | err alright i'll do that |
| 04:02.22 | Guest20705 | thanks :D |
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| 04:20.28 | Kraps | lol @ people who make home videos for idol then fail wildly |
| 04:25.07 | kd3 | egah first person tetris is aaagh |
| 04:27.17 | WobWork | kd3: night mode is much less waaaghy |
| 04:27.26 | Gnarfoz | kd3: night mode |
| 04:27.28 | Gnarfoz | heh yeah |
| 04:28.15 | kd3 | oh that's just evil |
| 04:28.55 | WobWork | although |
| 04:29.02 | WobWork | I wish they had the traditional tetris music |
| 04:29.09 | WobWork | even if it's probably copyrighted =( |
| 04:31.23 | Gnarfoz | http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1924722 :D |
| 04:33.06 | Guest20705 | oh good lord that tetris thing has me woozy after about a minute ;( |
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| 05:00.23 | Guest20705 | hmm, does having an addon on "curseforge" that's been approved and has files listed mean that the addon will be locatable through the normal curse.com interface? |
| 05:05.25 | Hjalte | Guest20705: If you have release versions, then I do believe so. |
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| 05:09.58 | Lizz | Muuuch better ^.^ |
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| 05:12.12 | WobWork | Lizz: You can use /nick to change your nickname without logging out |
| 05:13.38 | Lizz | <-- Bad at both addons and irc, but I'm here for the first one. Thanks though! I'll probably end up using it soon enough |
| 05:18.32 | Adys | nevcairiel, I love you |
| 05:18.47 | Adys | http://dpaste.com/145416/ |
| 05:18.50 | Lizz | so, a question about the addons :P I'm trying to keep my code fairly modularized/easy to work with, and so I've got this table of about 20 different entries... I want to add all the keys in the table as items in a dropdown menu, and i'm looking at Xinhuan's wonderful dropdown menu... assuming (to keep it simple) I want a single-level dropdown, how can I go through and extract the names in the |
| 05:18.57 | Lizz | table, and can I do it in any particular order? |
| 05:19.24 | WobWork | a hashtable has no defined order of entries |
| 05:19.30 | Lizz | thought so |
| 05:19.43 | WobWork | you can get the keys by using pairs() |
| 05:20.02 | WobWork | for keyi,value in pairs(mytable) do etc etc etc |
| 05:20.30 | WobWork | if you want to maintain a certain order, create a lookup table for the keys, as indexed tables -do- maintain order |
| 05:20.54 | Lizz | would it be better if i just made my dropdown menus by hand instead? it's not a lot of entries, but if i add/remove I have to do it in two places which is more error prone in 3 months when i've forgotten my code |
| 05:21.35 | Lizz | then I suppose I could implement multi-level, since the information is categorized pretty logically |
| 05:24.25 | WobWork | didn't Xinhuan write a good article on dropdown menus? |
| 05:24.39 | Lizz | yeah, that's what i'm looking at :P |
| 05:25.53 | Lizz | oh also, I always forget this one |
| 05:26.50 | WobWork | http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/apczf/ive_read_enough_angry_stories_today_whats_the/ |
| 05:26.52 | WobWork | *sniff* |
| 05:27.09 | Lizz | basically, I want three identical dropdown menus... so i'd like to factory-function their creation a bit... because if I make one, I can't just dd2 = dd1, dd3 = dd1 because of the functions... so uhh, when i get a question pertasining to that (after i've digested enough of this tutorial) i'll be back ;P |
| 05:27.11 | kd3 | blah. think it's time to build a new raid. only 300gb free space left on the raid |
| 05:28.30 | Adys | kd3: thats a lot of dps ! |
| 05:36.04 | Adys | ~night |
| 05:36.05 | purl | G'night adys, get out of here. |
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| 05:39.03 | Lizz | WobWork, still there? |
| 05:40.56 | Lizz | The reason I wanted to extract things from the hash table was so I could essentially use the names (which could later be changed for readability) in later making calls back to the table (it's key/value pairs of strings/functions)... So I how would I go about doing what you mentioned before, a "lookup table"? |
| 05:41.42 | Lizz | is that just like t = { [1] = value, [2] = othervalue,} etc? and then iterating through that with a loop |
| 05:42.59 | WobWork | well, you have your hash table { ["cabbage"] = 32, ["frog"] = 22, ["womble"] = 993, ["carrot"] = 9283} |
| 05:43.09 | Lizz | alright |
| 05:43.22 | WobWork | then your lookup table with the order you want the keys in { "cabbage", "carrot", "frog", "womble"} |
| 05:43.42 | WobWork | you then iterate through the lookup table, and use the result to pull the values from the hash table |
| 05:44.04 | Lizz | O.o i can just make it like that? so i'd iterate through it with... |
| 05:44.11 | WobWork | ipairs |
| 05:44.32 | WobWork | for i,v in ipairs(table2) do RunFunctionWith(table1[v]) end |
| 05:45.23 | Lizz | oh i see.... is there an easy way to make a "nested" iteratable table like that? or would it be tables referencing other table (which I can imagine already) |
| 05:45.48 | WobWork | you can do that |
| 05:47.08 | Lizz | the nested or the tables upon tables? |
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| 05:50.07 | WobWork | yes =) |
| 05:50.20 | WobWork | tables are always passed via reference |
| 05:50.29 | Lizz | *nod* |
| 05:50.32 | WobWork | so you can use them as both the index and the value if required |
| 05:52.48 | Lizz | I think I'll be going with the tables referencing other tables bit |
| 05:52.52 | Lizz | but hmm |
| 05:52.54 | Lizz | I'm confused |
| 05:53.07 | WobWork | ~pil |
| 05:53.08 | purl | Programming in Lua, a book written by the authors of the Lua programming language. The first edition is available free online at http://www.lua.org/pil and covers Lua 5.0. The second edition is available in print from most online bookstores, and covers Lua 5.1. |
| 05:53.14 | WobWork | is a good reference for Lua |
| 05:55.35 | mascondante | is it pretty simple to change a button over to work for a hardware event? I'm cross referencing what I'm trying to fix and something that does the same thing and I differs too much for be to be able to tell what's what. |
| 05:56.08 | mascondante | s/I/it |
| 05:56.41 | WobWork | a button to work for a hardware event as opposed to? |
| 05:56.59 | NightHawkTheSane | as opposed a button to work for YOUR MOM |
| 05:57.06 | Lizz | i *basically* have a hash table contaning, as i said, strings/functions for KVPs... could I somehow modify that to make it ordered? or because the strings are the keys, it can't be ordered, and so I need to make a new table of entries like on wowwiki where there're no brackets = value, just {value1, value2,} style |
| 05:57.16 | WobWork | NightHawkTheSane: I push your mom every night |
| 05:57.26 | NightHawkTheSane | glad someone does |
| 05:57.33 | WobWork | She says you never call |
| 05:57.38 | NightHawkTheSane | its true |
| 05:57.46 | WobWork | And that she's proud of you =\ |
| 05:57.53 | NightHawkTheSane | also true! |
| 05:57.54 | WobWork | Even if you forget about her |
| 05:58.23 | WobWork | Lizz: you can have a hash table with indexes mixed in |
| 05:58.26 | mascondante | WobWork: it seems it's totally ignoring the event. The guy that made it and gave it to me said he suspects an issue tied to the hardware event (he wrote it before it required one). He also doesn't know how to fix it. |
| 05:58.36 | WobWork | but you'll -still- have to use the indexed portion to reference the hashed portion |
| 05:59.14 | WobWork | You could also write your own iterator |
| 05:59.49 | NightHawkTheSane | iterator? i hardly know her! |
| 06:01.18 | Lizz | i think what i'll do is a table with subtables, like this t = {['indexes'] = {'spell', 'melee', etc...}, ['spell'] = {'power', 'crit', 'haste'} .... } |
| 06:01.51 | Lizz | then in my dropdown init function i call t, tell it to iterate through indexes, and for each item (ordered) it references t.item for order |
| 06:02.36 | Lizz | then when i associate functions to the dropdowns i can just use the key provided by this organizing function to link to the rest of the useful information in my already-existing table |
| 06:03.29 | WobWork | yep |
| 06:03.31 | WobWork | totally possible |
| 06:03.33 | Lizz | then if i add something to the addon i just add it in the big table and make a note about order and it should auto-update |
| 06:03.41 | Lizz | thus, easy to change later |
| 06:03.57 | Lizz | (all my programming classes tell me that's what i should do :P ) |
| 06:03.58 | WobWork | it doesn't necessarily have to be one table |
| 06:04.05 | WobWork | I'd separate them out for code clarity |
| 06:04.15 | Lizz | there will be 2 |
| 06:04.17 | Lizz | but yeah |
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| 06:23.33 | NightHawkTheSane | the hovertext for tomorrow's xkcd is made of pure, unadulturated, win |
| 06:24.57 | Jerub | it took some research to get all the context for that xkcd, pretty funny tho |
| 06:25.29 | NightHawkTheSane | yeah |
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| 06:28.17 | WobWork | hehe classy |
| 06:28.28 | WobWork | it took me a bit, til I looked back at the original setup |
| 06:31.12 | Lizz | oh hey Wob |
| 06:31.36 | Lizz | for an initialization function, would it be possible to write one that works on the same data set for all three (visually identical) menus and then just set the .initialize on all three to that function? |
| 06:31.42 | Lizz | again, condenses and orders code |
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| 06:33.16 | WobWork | just pass in the table |
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| 06:33.29 | Lizz | ? |
| 06:33.46 | WobWork | instead of attaching the function to the table, write a function that takes a table as an argument to set things up |
| 06:33.54 | Lizz | oh no no no |
| 06:34.14 | Lizz | for dropdowns, there is a specific "dropdowntable.initialize = function(self, level)" |
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| 06:34.56 | Lizz | i was wondering if i could write that function outside the table and then attatch it to all three dropdowns (assuming it's properly modularized to compensate for changes) |
| 06:35.11 | Lizz | i think the answer is yes, if i'm careful |
| 06:36.27 | Lizz | hows about i do it, pastey some code, and you tell me if i'm crazy (because i'm a long ways from actually having smoething testable in game :P |
| 06:39.50 | WobWork | Lizz: yes, because you're passing 'self', or in this case, the table to the function |
| 06:42.17 | Lizz | hmm |
| 06:42.47 | Lizz | so i'm trying to make it multi-level.... now i need to take the table of indexed things and iterate through some items in order... |
| 06:43.56 | Lizz | does the .initialize function work as a loop? in the tutorial, he doesn't use a loop, but i could set one up, right? |
| 06:44.39 | Lizz | that way each item in my first iteratable list could be a top-level menu... and then i could make another loop that adds to those menus |
| 06:45.34 | Lizz | OH it calls level 2 |
| 06:45.36 | Lizz | i gets it |
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| 06:54.47 | mascondante | covers his face with his palm. |
| 06:55.24 | mascondante | trying to learn and troubleshoot at the same time is giving me a headache |
| 07:00.32 | Lizz | oh ick |
| 07:00.38 | Lizz | question again |
| 07:01.08 | Lizz | how can i write it into my dropdown menu to choose a single item amongst all the submenus to be checked |
| 07:01.36 | Torhal | twitches. |
| 07:01.39 | Torhal | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOR8-IJ4jIg&feature=player_embedded |
| 07:05.03 | Balreign | it's a bit complicated, but dropdown menus should not be that complicated. Anyway you will have to check each single item to uncheck all the items and then check the selected one |
| 07:05.24 | Lizz | so i should do it while building |
| 07:05.46 | Balreign | no |
| 07:05.58 | Balreign | while clicking |
| 07:06.11 | Lizz | well, couldn't i write the "while clicking" bit in? |
| 07:06.15 | Lizz | err |
| 07:06.31 | Lizz | actually, this might help |
| 07:07.09 | Lizz | "which" value should be checked is written into an external, easily referenced table |
| 07:07.34 | Lizz | does the dropdown rebuild itself each time i open it, or do i have to change which is checked when i write my onclick functions |
| 07:07.35 | Lizz | ? |
| 07:08.00 | jnwhiteh | it depends |
| 07:08.39 | jnwhiteh | are you keeping the dropdown open after clicking? |
| 07:08.41 | jnwhiteh | that's up to you |
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| 07:08.51 | Lizz | no, i would like it to close every time |
| 07:09.16 | jnwhiteh | then its 'rebuilt' each time |
| 07:09.26 | Lizz | it is only multi-menu so that the information you are choosing from is categorized in a more readable order |
| 07:09.28 | jnwhiteh | as in your init function will be called to build the dropdown |
| 07:09.33 | Lizz | alright, that's awesome |
| 07:09.45 | Lizz | thanks :D |
| 07:09.46 | jnwhiteh | so the same code that shows it once should work every time. |
| 07:09.51 | Torhal | Lizz: This may help - http://forums.wowace.com/showthread.php?t=15763 |
| 07:10.13 | Lizz | ^^ using that guide to build my menu now |
| 07:10.40 | Lizz | but i'm doing a couple things different (working with a different style of program data structure, or something like that) |
| 07:11.03 | Lizz | hence questions (though some of it's probably there and i'm just missing it) |
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| 07:50.10 | Jerub | AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| 07:50.14 | Jerub | :) |
| 07:53.54 | Lizz | woot done |
| 07:54.25 | Lizz | just made a self-sizing dropdown menu, never made DD's before, so, if someone's bored, i'll pastey for your amusement/approval |
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| 07:56.35 | Lizz | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/131494 |
| 07:56.39 | Lizz | fun fun imo! |
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| 07:58.38 | Shadowed | For lines #108 - #116, you could replace it with local v = UIDROPDOWNMENU_MENU_VALUE; (or just call it again UIDROPDOWNMENU_MENU_VALUE), the UncheckHack functions could be merged into a single one |
| 07:58.51 | Shadowed | beyond that it looks fine |
| 07:59.20 | Lizz | I was wondering if that could be contensed |
| 07:59.32 | Lizz | thanks!!! |
| 07:59.43 | Lizz | condensed* -- it's late :( I go sleepy now |
| 07:59.49 | Wobin | argh |
| 07:59.51 | Lizz | have a good evening wowuidev |
| 08:00.04 | Wobin | goddamnit, for some reason W7 has decided to -open- all these file instead of extracting them |
| 08:00.16 | Wobin | which works terribly for 6gigs worth of files |
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| 08:16.10 | zenzio | http://failblog.org/2010/01/14/pet-store-fail/ |
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| 08:20.12 | Sixen | did I break the server? |
| 08:20.16 | Sixen | I join and everyone dc's :( |
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| 08:28.15 | mascondante | am I correct in thinking making changes to a ToC requires WoW to be restarted for changes to take effect (reloadui won't work)? |
| 08:28.15 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 08:28.15 | jnwhiteh | making changes to TOC metadata does |
| 08:28.15 | jnwhiteh | and you can't load fiels that didn't exist at the start of your session |
| 08:28.15 | jnwhiteh | so you can change the list of files to be loaded with no issues, so long as none of the files are new. |
| 08:28.15 | mascondante | ah. The files didn't exist so I'll need to exit then (found I needed to put the ace stuff in there to make it work correctly [I think]) |
| 08:28.16 | jnwhiteh | yes |
| 08:28.24 | mascondante | ty :-) |
| 08:30.00 | mascondante | Quite the headache... first addon I've worked on. I'm learning all over the place but it's not easy. |
| 08:30.13 | Wobin | STO needs 1.6 gigs to install |
| 08:30.19 | Wobin | ... but is a 6 gig download |
| 08:35.49 | mascondante | 's brain broke due to above comment. |
| 08:35.49 | mascondante | wow. |
| 08:35.54 | jnwhiteh | lol |
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| 09:03.49 | Wobin | what sort of crazy star trek sends a single Ensign onto a borg boarded ship? |
| 09:09.13 | Elkano | I'd do it, at least if he wears a red shirt |
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| 09:09.13 | Elkano | got to fulfill a quota ;) |
| 09:09.13 | Wobin | omg |
| 09:09.13 | Wobin | I totally should have given my dude a red shirt |
| 09:09.13 | Elkano | STO, right? I find it funny that for $240 you can play a borg ^^ |
| 09:09.24 | zenzio | I think they should have chosen a different name for the game |
| 09:09.24 | zenzio | there's bound to be quite a few STD jokes |
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| 09:21.46 | ZorbaTHut | some of the patcher functionality is thanks to me, the guy who was told to write the patcher, and a few other people sitting around and chatting about what would be totally awesome in a patcher |
| 09:21.46 | ZorbaTHut | I'm told that it's ended up being the standard installation method in-company. grab a patcher from someone, run it. |
| 09:21.52 | Kalroth | so you're to blame! |
| 09:21.52 | ZorbaTHut | I'm to blame for a lot of stuff |
| 09:21.52 | Kalroth | when I logged in last night it patched the same patch like 4 times |
| 09:21.52 | ZorbaTHut | it's pretty much all my fault. |
| 09:21.52 | ZorbaTHut | haha, in theory it shouldn't do that. that sounds like a bug :D |
| 09:26.31 | Kalroth | well it didn't corrupt any data, so I assume some sort of rollback on the patch happened |
| 09:26.31 | Kalroth | the client did crash because I tried going windowed mode |
| 09:26.31 | Fisker | hay Kalroth |
| 09:26.32 | ZorbaTHut | it's possible. I wouldn't be surprised if they're doing very rapid fixes right about now |
| 09:26.32 | ZorbaTHut | actually I'd be more surprised if they weren't |
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| 10:37.24 | Shirik | You know what, screw game makers. I think they're trying to make me manic depressed. Yesterday, I finished MW2, my character dies. Today, I finished Halo 3, my character dies. |
| 10:37.38 | Kalroth | QQ |
| 10:37.50 | Kalroth | maybe you should play hello kitty instead |
| 10:37.52 | Shirik | I was going to kill someone if my character died in ODST, but then found out basically you don't have a single character (at least not for the first half) |
| 10:37.58 | Kalroth | i dont think you can die in hello kitty |
| 10:38.10 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 10:38.13 | Fisker | i want my package |
| 10:38.37 | Shirik | still I'm somewhat impressed that we're getting such good storylines in FPSes these days |
| 10:38.47 | Shirik | the MW2 one especially was impressive |
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| 10:40.07 | Fisker | i think the MW2 story kinda sucked |
| 10:41.12 | Fisker | well maybe not as much the story as the execution |
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| 10:41.28 | Fisker | but MW1's story was pretty awesome |
| 10:41.46 | Fisker | But in MW2 they pretty much just took that and made it into the "standard" |
| 10:41.52 | Shirik | heh |
| 10:42.02 | Shirik | well I didn't play MW1 so that may be why I didn't catch on to that |
| 10:42.33 | Fisker | Basically they took what made the MW1 story awesome and copy/pasted it into MW2 3-4 times |
| 10:43.43 | Shirik | well at least it wasn't just once |
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| 10:44.21 | Neurox | Hello |
| 10:44.34 | Neurox | I'm back with a different problem :P |
| 10:44.47 | Fisker | i want my phone today though Shirik |
| 10:45.08 | Neurox | I'm trying to center a frame on the cursor but I can't seem to get the SetPoint right |
| 10:45.39 | Neurox | probably something to do with the fact that the frame is getting smaller |
| 10:45.43 | zenzio | ~ping |
| 10:45.44 | purl | ~pong |
| 10:46.08 | Shirik | I want my babyback Fisker |
| 10:46.24 | Fisker | i didn't kill my wife |
| 10:46.31 | Shirik | chilliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis |
| 10:46.35 | olafski | your character dies a couple of times in MW2 doesn't it? |
| 10:46.36 | Shirik | babyback ribs |
| 10:46.40 | Neurox | Any ideas? |
| 10:46.43 | Shirik | barbeque sauce |
| 10:46.46 | Shirik | yes olafski |
| 10:46.51 | olafski | I remember it dies at the end of the russian airport thing |
| 10:46.52 | Wobin | hardcore: http://pics.blameitonthevoices.com/012010/parachute_guy.jpg |
| 10:46.59 | olafski | still haven't finished the story though |
| 10:47.00 | Shirik | hence my "wtf" |
| 10:47.11 | Shirik | it's all like "yay you win. But you died lololol" |
| 10:47.20 | olafski | same at the end of MW1 ;) |
| 10:47.28 | olafski | and master chief dying was kinda lame too :P |
| 10:47.36 | Shirik | well |
| 10:47.42 | Shirik | the fun part to consider is "did he die" |
| 10:47.49 | olafski | true enough |
| 10:47.57 | Shirik | the epilogue seems to dispel that without really going anywhere (intentionally, I assume) |
| 10:48.30 | Shirik | in reality, he would die just from being in space with no food/whatever for too long, but then they were all like "lol cryogenisis!" |
| 10:48.40 | Shirik | not to mention there's no power but somehow cortana can still plug in |
| 10:49.17 | Shirik | I would love to see how well half of an F-35 operates |
| 10:50.47 | Shirik | Anyway, after playing ODST's single player I'm not sure what I think about it. It's certainly a different context from halo, it tends to be slower paced (at least as I played it), and I like that. But I think there might have been too much stalling to make it a complete game, instead of content |
| 10:53.20 | Corrodias | felt like it had artificial length enhancement? |
| 10:53.25 | Corrodias | not natural enhancement like enzyte |
| 10:53.29 | Shirik | yes |
| 10:53.55 | Shirik | Fisker, you have an xbox? |
| 10:54.40 | Corrodias | i checked out the 'box, but it just didn't have enough games that i wouldn't rather play on the pc or not at all ._. |
| 10:54.52 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: he doesnt die, the halo3 ending was bungie saying that MC goes on to be the character in one of their earlier games, marathon |
| 10:54.53 | Corrodias | let me rephrase |
| 10:55.00 | Corrodias | it didn't have enough that i'd want to play -and- play on a console |
| 10:55.08 | Wobin | Arrowmaster, I loved Marathon =( |
| 10:55.13 | Shirik | Arrowmaster: marathon? |
| 10:55.20 | Fisker | no Shirik |
| 10:55.22 | Fisker | i hate consoles |
| 10:55.24 | Fisker | to hell. |
| 10:55.40 | Corrodias | wait, i phrased it wrong again. it didn't have enough that i'd want to play and would rather play on it than on a pc. that's better. |
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| 10:55.47 | Shirik | Well anyway, yeah he "survives" but there's nothing to suggest that he ever goes on from there (except, perhaps, another game like you've said) |
| 10:55.55 | Shirik | Fisker: Then you played MW2 how? |
| 10:56.12 | Fisker | PC? |
| 10:56.21 | Shirik | oh I didn't know they had a PC version of it |
| 10:56.22 | Fisker | you know that thing you can use to play on as well |
| 10:56.25 | Shirik | you should get an xbox |
| 10:56.45 | Fisker | wno. |
| 10:56.46 | Fisker | no. |
| 10:56.48 | Shirik | I mean seriously, no matter how good computers get, consoles will always be a step ahead |
| 10:56.59 | Shirik | even if they're a step behind |
| 10:57.19 | Shirik | (think about that one for a second) |
| 10:57.33 | Corrodias | no. |
| 10:57.41 | Fisker | ^^ |
| 10:57.49 | Arrowmaster | they are behind hardware wise but ahead software wise because they are the first choice for releases |
| 10:57.52 | Fisker | i would rather kill myself than use a console |
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| 10:58.20 | Shirik | they tend to be behind hardware wise but everything's optimized for gaming |
| 10:58.29 | Fisker | "yay 1280x720 with shitty graphics how new and exciting" |
| 10:58.30 | Shirik | the software, additionally, knows exactly what hardware will be used |
| 10:58.47 | Arrowmaster | its not even 1280x720 |
| 10:58.49 | Shirik | there's no guessing, no abstraction |
| 10:58.52 | Fisker | some games are |
| 10:58.52 | olafski | consoles rock |
| 10:58.54 | Fisker | but MW2 isn't |
| 10:58.57 | Arrowmaster | very few are |
| 10:59.09 | olafski | when my current pc runs "out" I will buy a word processor and switch to console gaming entirely :) |
| 10:59.12 | Arrowmaster | most are upscaled to 720p |
| 10:59.30 | Arrowmaster | and i hate it because everything looks like antialiasing is off |
| 10:59.30 | Shirik | But you can't really call them "behind on hardware" they're just different |
| 10:59.34 | Shirik | Take the PS3 for example |
| 10:59.47 | Corrodias | too many pixels confuses the poor thing |
| 10:59.55 | Shirik | who here has a PC with 8 GPUs? |
| 11:00.16 | Shirik | not quite the same, but closest equivalent |
| 11:00.17 | Fisker | that's a gross oversimplification |
| 11:00.21 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 11:00.31 | Corrodias | i'm not getting into a pc vs console penis fight |
| 11:00.33 | Arrowmaster | games can only use 6 |
| 11:00.51 | Arrowmaster | one is reserved for the XMB |
| 11:00.58 | Arrowmaster | and one is always disabled at the factory |
| 11:01.05 | Corrodias | i will express disappointment at them halfassing the high definition video |
| 11:01.23 | Corrodias | but so do a lot of pc games, so whatever |
| 11:01.25 | Shirik | That being said, omg someone showed me this game today |
| 11:01.30 | Shirik | graphics.... insane |
| 11:01.33 | Shirik | PS3 though :( |
| 11:01.37 | olafski | ,) |
| 11:01.59 | olafski | funny how everyone always rants about "graphics don't matter, gameplay matters" yet when you mention consoles they're like "omg poor graphics, pc rocks" :P |
| 11:02.09 | Shirik | graphics matter fuck those people |
| 11:02.11 | olafski | which game was it shirik? |
| 11:02.16 | Shirik | trying to find it in my logs |
| 11:02.22 | olafski | I agree, graphics do matter =) |
| 11:02.32 | Arrowmaster | wild guess, heavy rain? |
| 11:02.34 | Shirik | here it is |
| 11:02.39 | Shirik | "Blade & Soul" |
| 11:02.40 | Fisker | That depends on how you define "graphics" |
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| 11:03.00 | Fisker | When i talk graphics i'm talking about high-res textures, higher resolutions, etc. |
| 11:03.02 | Shirik | Trailer, actual gameplay with free-motion camera: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODD790bO2VU |
| 11:03.22 | Fisker | Whether or not it's Unreal 3 or World of Goo-style graphics isn't important |
| 11:03.28 | Fisker | but if i see jaggies in a game i hate it |
| 11:03.41 | Neurox | Anyone have any idea about my frame/cursor positioning? |
| 11:04.00 | olafski | ew japanese style graphics ;P |
| 11:04.39 | Arrowmaster | korean |
| 11:04.52 | Fisker | http://static.videogamer.com/videogamer/images/pub/misc/masslarge06.jpg |
| 11:04.54 | olafski | care |
| 11:05.24 | Fisker | http://static.videogamer.com/videogamer/images/pub/misc/masslarge14.jpg |
| 11:05.25 | Fisker | or that one |
| 11:05.30 | olafski | got any comparison shots of gears of war 2? |
| 11:05.31 | olafski | halo 3? |
| 11:05.46 | olafski | care about mass effect really :P |
| 11:05.54 | Fisker | Both games suck olafski |
| 11:06.03 | olafski | so does mass effect =) |
| 11:06.12 | Arrowmaster | neither of those are on PC |
| 11:06.22 | olafski | indeed.. |
| 11:06.26 | Corrodias | all games suck |
| 11:06.27 | Corrodias | blow me! |
| 11:06.31 | Fisker | naw Corrodias |
| 11:06.38 | Corrodias | is more satisfying than any vidya. |
| 11:06.39 | olafski | who was it again that mentioned current shooters don't do splitscreen btw =) |
| 11:07.03 | Corrodias | whoever it was is mistaken |
| 11:07.05 | Arrowmaster | borderlands would be a good one, textures look so blurry to me on 360 |
| 11:07.09 | olafski | indeed corrodias |
| 11:07.23 | Corrodias | as far as i know, very few do, but l4d is one of them |
| 11:07.28 | olafski | damn shame serious sam HD didn't join the splitscreen re-evolution.. I would've instantly bought it |
| 11:07.36 | olafski | corrodias: mw2, gears of war 2 :) |
| 11:07.45 | Corrodias | shame serious sam hd wasn't a better game, for that matter |
| 11:08.17 | olafski | it's a remake of the first encounter.. I've played that so many times, I will probably still get SSHD |
| 11:08.25 | olafski | but with splitscreen it would have been a nobrainer |
| 11:10.46 | Arrowmaster | Shirik: typical ncsoft, this trailer is all fluff and i still have no idea what type of game this is |
| 11:10.53 | Shirik | rofl |
| 11:11.22 | Shirik | it's an RPG with soul-calibur combat style is my understanding |
| 11:11.29 | Shirik | I know very little currently as well |
| 11:12.23 | Arrowmaster | that makes almost no sense |
| 11:12.24 | Grum | Fisker: 360 looks like POOOP |
| 11:13.32 | Grum | Fisker: those 360 screenshots are not from 1080p are they? |
| 11:13.34 | Shirik | ? |
| 11:14.17 | Arrowmaster | Grum: does it matter? every game has a native resolution it renders in and then everything is upscaled to the output resolution |
| 11:14.41 | Grum | Arrowmaster: yeah and for x360 it has to be 720p but it doesn't even appear to be that |
| 11:14.56 | Arrowmaster | no everything on the 360 has to output 720 |
| 11:15.00 | Grum | these look like 480p upscaled by the guy using photoshop |
| 11:15.14 | Arrowmaster | theres a very very small fraction of games that even natively render in 720 |
| 11:15.31 | Grum | hmmm did microsoft really drop that requirement? O.o |
| 11:15.43 | Arrowmaster | it was never a requirement |
| 11:15.48 | Grum | it was |
| 11:15.54 | Arrowmaster | only the outputing 720 was a requirement |
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| 11:16.51 | Corrodias | don't push yourselves too hard, guys, you don't have to make your games look good if you don't want to :3 |
| 11:18.05 | Arrowmaster | 360 is so dated that it cant render a lot of games at 720 without cutting stuff |
| 11:19.18 | Corrodias | maybe the next generation will have halfway decent resolution |
| 11:19.27 | Arrowmaster | for a while maybe |
| 11:19.55 | Arrowmaster | but theyll continue the long held tradition of being fucking cheap asses on ram and it wont have long enough after a year |
| 11:20.37 | Arrowmaster | i think thats the bigest reason for shitty texture quality |
| 11:21.28 | Corrodias | good point |
| 11:21.31 | Corrodias | 512mb shared |
| 11:21.39 | Corrodias | although maybe that was before the last big price drop |
| 11:22.26 | Corrodias | i can take a dump and just about sell it for 4gb of ddr2 these days, though they'll need faster stuff than that for video |
| 11:23.35 | Arrowmaster | maybe, i can remember purchasing 2x512mb sticks for my pc for $400 like 2 years before the 360 came out |
| 11:23.55 | Arrowmaster | and i got 3x2gb for $89 last fall |
| 11:25.02 | ZorbaTHut | the next gen of performance consoles will be 64-bit, and will have somewhere between 4 and 8gb of RAM if not more. Four years after release, people will complain about how cheap they were in only providing that much. |
| 11:25.32 | Arrowmaster | ZorbaTHut: current gen are 64bit i think |
| 11:25.32 | Corrodias | people complain about $600 for a console, so raising the price by say $100 for a halfway decent chunk of memory is a big tradeoff |
| 11:26.06 | Corrodias | let's see, xbox came out in 2005 |
| 11:26.10 | Corrodias | 360, i mean |
| 11:26.22 | ZorbaTHut | assuming you mean address space, current gen are 32 bit. |
| 11:26.45 | Corrodias | that was a little while before i bought my old computer, which got 2gb of ram for a perfectly reasonable price |
| 11:26.53 | Corrodias | although what i call reasonable might be way too much for a console |
| 11:28.24 | ZorbaTHut | main computer RAM tends to be relatively slow. RAM speed is a huge bottleneck in console performance, so they blow extra money on fast RAM |
| 11:28.50 | Corrodias | 512mb split between the two was unconscionable even back then |
| 11:29.08 | ZorbaTHut | some more than others - the gamecube had a miniscule amount of blazingly fast RAM, and a surprisingly huge amount of slow sound RAM, so some people ended up using the sound buffers for low-speed data storage. |
| 11:29.50 | ZorbaTHut | it's not entirely clear if that was an intentional design or not. |
| 11:29.55 | Corrodias | huh. |
| 11:30.00 | Fisker | slaps ZorbaTHut around a bit with a large trout |
| 11:31.21 | Fisker | ZorbaTHut dies! |
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| 11:46.43 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.3.x ToC: 30300 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | "... this is fucking fantastic." - Jerub |
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| 11:59.33 | Kalroth | :D |
| 12:00.25 | Fisker | Kalroth |
| 12:00.28 | Fisker | I WANT MY PACKAGE |
| 12:00.38 | Kalroth | I got a package for you |
| 12:01.42 | Fisker | always post danmark those slackers |
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| 12:27.03 | *** topic/#wowuidev is http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.3.x ToC: 30300 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | "... this is fucking fantastic." - Jerub |
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| 12:45.18 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: ? |
| 12:47.12 | Kalroth | Let me fix that for you |
| 12:47.17 | Kalroth | Fisker is ???? |
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| 13:00.14 | Fisker | jnwhiteh ! |
| 13:00.23 | jnwhiteh | Fister ! |
| 13:00.24 | Fisker | i told you my postal services suck :P |
| 13:00.28 | jnwhiteh | =( |
| 13:00.39 | Fisker | not even in their system yet |
| 13:00.51 | Fisker | (though that's the usual business) |
| 13:02.34 | ZorbaTHut | man fuck hexagons |
| 13:02.40 | ZorbaTHut | or as I shall refer to them in the future, worstagons |
| 13:03.36 | Grum | wurstagon! |
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| 13:36.09 | amro | http://smt.blogs.com/.a/6a00d8341c68f553ef0120a7c21e3e970b-pi |
| 13:37.28 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: I'm headed to lunch, but ping me when you get it =) |
| 13:37.40 | jnwhiteh | i'll be on weechat when I get to the orifice. |
| 13:38.32 | zenzio_ | O_o |
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| 13:50.30 | Cide | hmm |
| 13:50.38 | Lopeppeppy | Hrrrm. |
| 13:50.43 | Lopeppeppy | Are we ents? |
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| 13:50.45 | Cide | best way to remove all .svn directories recursively in a dir? |
| 13:52.59 | Cide | nvm, google saves all |
| 13:53.38 | krka | find|grep .svn|xargs rm -rf |
| 13:53.48 | krka | or, do svn export i suppose |
| 13:54.48 | haste | find -type d -name '.svn' would probably be better than the find|grep combo |
| 13:54.56 | Cide | yeah, that's what I used |
| 13:54.59 | Cide | thanks though |
| 13:55.13 | Cide | svn export is also useful, thanks |
| 13:55.16 | krka | i never manage to remember the find usage |
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| 13:55.58 | haste | I just use find + grep when I need line numbers and filenames as well |
| 13:56.27 | Kalroth | delete *.* |
| 13:56.45 | haste | if you use zsh you could just do: rm -rf **/.svn |
| 13:57.06 | Kalroth | or format the drive |
| 13:57.14 | Kalroth | that'll remove the svn folders too |
| 13:57.18 | haste | ~lart Kalroth |
| 13:57.18 | purl | takes out a cattle prod and gives Kalroth a good jolt |
| 13:57.38 | Kalroth | buzZzzes a little, but continues with the fiskering! |
| 13:58.05 | Fisker | haste |
| 13:58.06 | Fisker | hey |
| 13:58.20 | haste | haroo |
| 13:58.46 | Fisker | i wanted my phone :( |
| 13:59.39 | Lopeppeppy | But now you don't? |
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| 14:01.26 | haste | he broke it |
| 14:02.50 | Fisker | well played |
| 14:02.58 | Fisker | i now have no other option than to send it back to jnwhiteh |
| 14:04.13 | Fisker | anyways dk postal services suck!1 |
| 14:05.22 | zenzio_ | bit late here, but find can actually delete for you... just make sure you do it right |
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| 14:05.29 | zenzio_ | I sort of deleted a whole directory once |
| 14:06.03 | Lopeppeppy | Ooopst. |
| 14:06.42 | haste | find -type d -name '.svn' -exec rm -r {} \; should do that for you |
| 14:07.11 | zenzio_ | or find -delete |
| 14:07.52 | haste | why am I not surprised :P |
| 14:08.07 | haste | I usually just use zsh's completion for this type of thing tho' |
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| 14:13.44 | Kraps | teh lol http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Chanie |
| 14:14.10 | Wobin | so. |
| 14:14.12 | Wobin | it turns out |
| 14:14.22 | Wobin | when 10 manning AQ40 |
| 14:14.32 | Wobin | shaman healers can last forever while people figure out Twin Emps =P |
| 14:14.46 | Kalroth | hahah |
| 14:15.02 | Wobin | thanks to the power of water shield mana batterying |
| 14:15.27 | Wobin | we didn't manage to figure out c'thun though =( |
| 14:15.30 | Kalroth | I can go on forever with LHW spam |
| 14:15.32 | Wobin | too many people dying |
| 14:15.36 | Kalroth | eyebeam is hard |
| 14:16.10 | Wobin | actually, the only thing that ended up killing me, as a resto shaman |
| 14:16.13 | Wobin | was his stomach |
| 14:16.21 | Wobin | when outside, I could heal through everything >< |
| 14:16.26 | Kalroth | oh, it scales or something? |
| 14:16.31 | Wobin | yeah |
| 14:16.36 | Wobin | eventually one shots you |
| 14:16.49 | Kalroth | with enough tents up, yeah |
| 14:17.11 | Wobin | interesting encounter though |
| 14:17.17 | Wobin | I can see why we might need more people =P |
| 14:17.25 | Wobin | just to cover geography =P |
| 14:17.37 | Wobin | we had too few to get everything killed in time |
| 14:17.57 | Fisker | Twin Emperors are significantly easier than C'Thun |
| 14:18.02 | Wobin | yes |
| 14:18.09 | Fisker | Well maybe except for the stomach acid bug if that's still there |
| 14:18.18 | Wobin | once we got into people's head the idea they needed to split them... it worked fine =) |
| 14:18.21 | Wobin | there's a bug? |
| 14:18.30 | Wobin | maybe that was what was killing us |
| 14:18.31 | Cide | c'thun is still like the best encounter they've designed imo |
| 14:18.47 | zenzio_ | it is pretty wicked |
| 14:18.48 | Wobin | Cide, it's kinda like whatsisface in ulduar... |
| 14:19.01 | Wobin | brain is melty atm |
| 14:19.12 | zenzio_ | end boss? |
| 14:19.13 | Cide | understandable |
| 14:19.16 | Wobin | yeah |
| 14:19.23 | zenzio_ | makes sense, aren't they both old gods? |
| 14:19.24 | Wobin | the -other- old god =P |
| 14:19.50 | Wobin | the one that fell into the "mouth" bag, when c'thun scarfed down the "eye" one |
| 14:20.17 | Fisker | Wobin the stomach acid scales insanely |
| 14:20.36 | zenzio_ | I remember my guild back in classic attempting to learn C'thun... really showed who were our leechers |
| 14:20.39 | Fisker | if you stay there too long it'll oneshot you |
| 14:20.41 | haste | it's quite dangerous as L80 :D |
| 14:21.15 | Wobin | Fisker, it was hitting us for about 5-8k a tick |
| 14:21.26 | Wobin | oh wait |
| 14:21.27 | Wobin | 16k |
| 14:21.29 | Wobin | >< |
| 14:22.26 | Wobin | 21k |
| 14:22.29 | Wobin | yeah... |
| 14:22.33 | Wobin | I don't like that bug =( |
| 14:23.50 | Wobin | zenzio_, I remember Nefarian |
| 14:24.04 | Wobin | even after everything was explained, and people read up on it. |
| 14:24.16 | Wobin | we hear piped up over vent: "... why am I a caaaaat?" |
| 14:24.22 | Kalroth | hahaha |
| 14:24.30 | zenzio_ | hehe |
| 14:24.35 | Kalroth | best part of Nef pugs are the hunters meleeing |
| 14:24.47 | Cide | no |
| 14:24.47 | Wobin | man, hunters had it vicious |
| 14:25.04 | Wobin | I think the DK call is the best =) |
| 14:25.04 | Kalroth | and Cide is right, best part is priests killing the MTs |
| 14:25.07 | Fisker | what does the death knight one do btw? |
| 14:25.08 | zenzio_ | I remember literally shaking after I had to take over tanking on Nefarian when our two MTs died. I was something like OT3 at the time |
| 14:25.15 | Kalroth | Nef DGs the raid, Fisker |
| 14:25.16 | Wobin | Nefarian mass deathgrips the raid =P |
| 14:25.16 | Cide | best part of Nef guild raids was getting the hunter call 4 times in the row and hearing all the hunters groaning on vent |
| 14:25.23 | Fisker | nice |
| 14:25.32 | zenzio_ | Cide: haha |
| 14:26.06 | Cide | was such a long fight too |
| 14:26.10 | Cide | like 15-20 min? |
| 14:26.11 | Kalroth | We ran really priest heavy, so when we got priest call 3 times in the row, people were panicking |
| 14:26.40 | zenzio_ | I remember how we'd always undress after Chromaggus and wipe once to see which drakonids came where |
| 14:26.48 | Cide | pussies |
| 14:26.49 | Kalroth | haha |
| 14:26.51 | Cide | we did it the pro way |
| 14:26.58 | zenzio_ | my guild was mediocre |
| 14:27.01 | Cide | and usually wiped |
| 14:27.04 | Cide | but that's another story |
| 14:27.44 | Kalroth | we did it the best way, once Chrom died, we had until the first rogue arrived at Nef to sort loot and get undress |
| 14:28.05 | Kalroth | fuckers would wait at the gate when Chrom was at 5%, just so they could sprint in and talk to him |
| 14:29.46 | zenzio_ | the loot thing reminds my (then) guild's first Anetheron kill |
| 14:30.00 | zenzio_ | all of a sudden Jaina was wanting to teleport us away and we got swamped by undeads |
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| 14:37.46 | Fisker | slaps Kalroth around a bit with a large trout |
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| 15:02.27 | Lunessa | Side benefit(?) to working in IT at a university - I know when the lame local SF/Gaming con will be long before it's published. |
| 15:03.25 | Lopeppeppy | 'cause the students know? Or because it's at the university? |
| 15:03.42 | Lunessa | The latter. |
| 15:03.54 | Lopeppeppy | Extra lamesauce. |
| 15:07.18 | Lunessa | One of the organizers barged into my office - after we closed the other night - to ask innumerable questions about IT things for their convention. He figured he had found an ally since I have all my WoW action figures on the shelf above my desk. I told him we were closed and to come back tomorrow. |
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| 15:10.43 | Lopeppeppy | Woot. |
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| 15:34.15 | Fisker | lol jnwhiteh |
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| 15:35.43 | Fisker | that's pretty sucky :P |
| 15:35.57 | Fisker | only now did the status update saying it arrived in dk 2 hours |
| 15:35.58 | Fisker | ago |
| 15:36.20 | wereHamster | nowadays you can do nef with only two people... :) |
| 15:36.38 | Ackis | Fisker: get an xbox 360 |
| 15:36.41 | Fisker | no |
| 15:36.43 | Fisker | i'd rather die |
| 15:36.43 | Ackis | yes |
| 15:36.49 | Ackis | i'd rather you die too |
| 15:36.53 | Ackis | but get one before you die |
| 15:36.55 | Fisker | sweet |
| 15:37.12 | Grum | so we can pry it from your dead hands! |
| 15:40.32 | Kraps | oh my gosh http://armory-worldofwarcnaft.com/wowarmory/ |
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| 15:40.58 | nevcairiel | You really shouldnt link phishing sites here |
| 15:41.51 | Kraps | how the hell does it end up in googls yellow box? |
| 15:42.28 | Fisker | they paid for it? |
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| 15:53.14 | Kraps | what the honor point cap? |
| 15:54.44 | Thunder_Child | 75,000 iirc |
| 15:55.01 | nevcairiel | isnt it somewhat dynamic? rumor was its about the double of the most expensive item |
| 15:55.05 | nevcairiel | what that is, i dont know |
| 15:55.06 | Adys | ~ping |
| 15:55.07 | purl | ~pong |
| 15:55.25 | Thunder_Child | it was 75K as of 3 months ago |
| 15:55.25 | Fisker | it's been 75000 forever |
| 15:58.38 | Cide | the most expensive item is like 63k |
| 16:00.10 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/5448868/get-this-motherfucking-samuel-l-jackson-app-on-your-motherfucking-iphone |
| 16:00.51 | Fisker | motherfucking no Thunder_Child |
| 16:01.02 | Thunder_Child | Excuse Me? |
| 16:01.10 | Fisker | no |
| 16:01.15 | Fisker | excuse yourself |
| 16:03.43 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: nothing yet? |
| 16:04.01 | Fisker | said it arrived in dkdk 2 hours ago |
| 16:04.08 | Fisker | but i know better and so forth |
| 16:04.12 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 16:04.13 | Kraps | heh i made 150g off a guy who wanted to leave his 2v2 but couldnt because hes the captain |
| 16:04.14 | jnwhiteh | heh |
| 16:04.35 | Fisker | probably been sitting in some room for the last 14 hours or so |
| 16:04.40 | Fisker | just waiting to be put on a truck |
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| 16:05.09 | Lunessa | Hello disconnected Cat5 cable. How's it going? |
| 16:05.46 | Fisker | dunno how they handle packages from other countries though, so it may get here tomorrow, but probably not |
| 16:06.47 | Kraps | i'm looking for info on the daily instance resets, cant find anything on google |
| 16:07.02 | Fisker | 8AM |
| 16:07.09 | Lopeppeppy | Hi, Lunessa, just hanging out here, it's really good! :P |
| 16:07.49 | Lunessa | It was frustrating to come back to my desk and discover "o hai! u haz no intertubes" |
| 16:08.10 | Kraps | no, more like, why can i go into an instance 10 minutes before the reset and it doesnt reset? |
| 16:09.04 | Fisker | because it's not reset anymore? |
| 16:09.09 | Fisker | reset yet* |
| 16:09.23 | jnwhiteh | should the instance reset while you are in it? |
| 16:09.35 | Fisker | it'll kick you out as far as i recall |
| 16:09.51 | Kraps | Fisker: thats what i thought but it didnt |
| 16:10.07 | jnwhiteh | you can extend lockouts now, maybe that has something to do with it? |
| 16:10.10 | Fisker | oh they probably fixed it for the random dungeon then |
| 16:10.48 | Fisker | Because a few weeks ago i did one just around the reset |
| 16:10.51 | Fisker | and i died |
| 16:10.58 | Fisker | but when i came back it was a fresh instance |
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| 16:17.23 | Thunder_Child | wowhttp://firstpersontetris.com/ this is so amazingly fun |
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| 16:20.16 | Lunessa | Ouch: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=21626503942&sid=1 - I feel for this guy, but... I don't think there's a lot that can be done to help him. |
| 16:20.24 | Cide | fun? |
| 16:20.26 | Cide | my head hurts |
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| 16:21.37 | Ackis | Lunessa: tell him to try the wowace/wowi forums and to work with some authors directly, I could guess that a lot of authors don't have the experience of working with visual/hearing disabled people |
| 16:22.51 | Thunder_Child | Cide: do it on night mode, it's even worse |
| 16:24.15 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah. Someone who is deafblind trying to play a videogame is... intensely insane. |
| 16:26.14 | augustl | "From what I understand on the web using a Google search" :) |
| 16:26.17 | augustl | no ambiguity! |
| 16:26.45 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: disabilities != deaf/blind |
| 16:26.48 | Ackis | think colour blindness |
| 16:26.53 | Thunder_Child | that just means that even with disabilities that person is smarter than 90% of the people on the forums |
| 16:27.57 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* cryptic is doing a lifetime sub for STO |
| 16:28.05 | Thunder_Child | way to fail |
| 16:28.18 | Ackis | old news Thunder_Child |
| 16:28.20 | durcyn | mmmm, VG Size 3.18 TiB |
| 16:28.31 | zenzelezz | Thunder_Child: why? It's not the first game that does it |
| 16:29.06 | Thunder_Child | zenzelezz: because what game that has that is still going strong....if it ever did? |
| 16:29.23 | zenzelezz | what's your definition of strong? |
| 16:29.38 | zenzelezz | LotRO is still running, I believe they had (have?) it |
| 16:29.47 | Ackis | zenzelezz: look at hellgate london :'( |
| 16:30.01 | Thunder_Child | or CO |
| 16:30.10 | zenzelezz | I didn't say everyone succeeds at it :) |
| 16:30.23 | zenzelezz | ~240/15 |
| 16:30.24 | purl | 16 |
| 16:30.31 | Ackis | CO was just released, has it failed already? |
| 16:30.50 | Thunder_Child | is just think it makes it more likely that the game will run out of money and there will be no more updated |
| 16:30.53 | Thunder_Child | updates* |
| 16:31.08 | Thunder_Child | i* |
| 16:34.23 | durcyn | having spoken to one of the closed beta players, STO's going to be pretty much stillborn with or without lifetime subs |
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| 16:35.08 | Ackis | durcyn: you didn't speak to me |
| 16:35.18 | Ackis | :P |
| 16:35.22 | Ackis | it was sex |
| 16:35.42 | durcyn | okay, but is it ready for retail? |
| 16:35.49 | durcyn | i got the distinct impression it was not |
| 16:36.22 | Ackis | not sure about that /shrug I played for about 2 hours only! :D |
| 16:36.30 | durcyn | chump. |
| 16:36.58 | nicoli_s | i hear its not that great |
| 16:37.16 | nicoli_s | though i am loving global agenda |
| 16:39.24 | Kraps | nicoli_s: global agenda has elves? |
| 16:43.16 | Thunder_Child | durcyn: no, but atm tit's because of the lag |
| 16:43.48 | Thunder_Child | nicoli_s: that game is crap if you go in thinking it is a MMOFPS. it's anf fps with hacked on mmo atributes |
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| 16:44.39 | durcyn | how's it compare to, say, planetside? |
| 16:44.52 | Kraps | army on the last VH boss WHY |
| 16:44.55 | Ackis | I wished my fucking blackberry came with an OFF button. |
| 16:45.08 | Thunder_Child | i never played planetside myself. |
| 16:45.29 | durcyn | nor did i, but everyone i know who played it loved it |
| 16:45.33 | jnwhiteh | army on NExus last boss.. WHY? |
| 16:46.45 | Legorol | army on anything: great, extra dps, and causes no harm :o) |
| 16:46.56 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 16:46.57 | Kraps | jnwhiteh: thats actually worse for some reason |
| 16:47.05 | jnwhiteh | Kraps: I know, I had to heal it the other day |
| 16:47.08 | Legorol | the only harm army does is to annoy the tank |
| 16:47.14 | jnwhiteh | Nexus heroic and the idiot drops army |
| 16:47.22 | Legorol | it's not like the frontal cone attacks of those bosses hurt much |
| 16:47.25 | jnwhiteh | only one died tho |
| 16:47.29 | jnwhiteh | Legorol: or the tail swipes =) |
| 16:47.34 | Kraps | Legorol: thats what you think |
| 16:47.45 | jnwhiteh | Kraps got trolled. |
| 16:47.58 | Kraps | nooooooo |
| 16:48.10 | jnwhiteh | Hi Kraps, I'd like you to meet Legorol, a substantially skilled tank =) |
| 16:48.16 | durcyn | well, Legorol did neglect to include his SarcMark(tm) |
| 16:48.19 | Legorol | :) |
| 16:48.31 | jnwhiteh | skilled and knowledgable |
| 16:48.38 | jnwhiteh | since they can be/are different. |
| 16:48.46 | Kraps | i am too! |
| 16:48.47 | durcyn | (he also looks great in a dress) |
| 16:48.52 | Legorol | having said that i also always pop my army on last bosses and laugh ^^ but i am aware of the consequences |
| 16:48.56 | Legorol | lol durcyn |
| 16:49.13 | jnwhiteh | on some bosses, its great =) |
| 16:49.43 | Kraps | thinks dk tanks are odd |
| 16:50.05 | jnwhiteh | I represent that remark |
| 16:50.10 | kdtresh | is an equal opportunity tank healer |
| 16:50.11 | Kraps | lol |
| 16:50.17 | Kalroth | haha |
| 16:50.46 | Kraps | i mean odd as in "how the FUCK does that thing WORK? |
| 16:50.54 | jnwhiteh | tanking with my dk is so much fun |
| 16:50.58 | jnwhiteh | i dont like tanking with my warrior |
| 16:51.04 | jnwhiteh | but then again, i used to love tanking on my druid |
| 16:51.22 | jnwhiteh | I just feel like I have more machinery on my DK because of how complicated I think warriors are |
| 16:51.45 | Kraps | complicated? pfft |
| 16:52.03 | Kraps | just hit whatever is off CD |
| 16:52.12 | Legorol | jnwhiteh: interesting, i find DK to be much more difficult to play well than a warrior |
| 16:52.16 | Kraps | no rotation |
| 16:52.25 | Legorol | for typical tank situations warrior tank is easier, but warriors have more interesting tools |
| 16:52.35 | Legorol | one exception is aoe tanking, DK is easier on that |
| 16:52.44 | jnwhiteh | I know how to react to any situation as a DK tank |
| 16:52.51 | Legorol | but the average number of abilities that a DK tank routinely uses is lot more than what a warrior does imo |
| 16:52.52 | kdtresh | only thing i've tanked on my warrior was scarlet monastery |
| 16:52.53 | jnwhiteh | I don't as a warrior, that's where my difficulty comes in |
| 16:52.59 | Legorol | fair enough |
| 16:53.00 | jnwhiteh | Legorol: really? |
| 16:53.06 | Legorol | i have extensive experience tanking on both |
| 16:53.08 | jnwhiteh | maybe I was trying to do too much on my warrior |
| 16:53.16 | Legorol | in my opinion : DK is harder, warrior has more tools |
| 16:53.26 | Legorol | maybe |
| 16:53.33 | Legorol | if you know how to react as a DK, then you are playing it well |
| 16:53.44 | Legorol | timing is difficult with a DK, because you can't always rely on runes being ready |
| 16:54.06 | jnwhiteh | On a 1-3 pull, I'll just pull and use standard rotation on the main mob.. and my 'hit two mobs' strike |
| 16:54.06 | kdtresh | doesn't d&d burn one of each? |
| 16:54.19 | jnwhiteh | otherwise i'll pull with D&D and put diseases up, and use blood boil to keep things on me |
| 16:54.22 | Legorol | for example, DK has solid aoe threat on predictable pulls, but can get in trouble with sudden adds, as it lacks burst-aoe (unless frost and HB ready) |
| 16:54.37 | jnwhiteh | Legorol: blood tap and blood boil |
| 16:54.40 | jnwhiteh | doesn't always work |
| 16:54.44 | jnwhiteh | but that, and two taunts make it nice |
| 16:54.50 | Legorol | sure, but you know your tools |
| 16:54.58 | jnwhiteh | I'd like to think so =) |
| 16:55.00 | Legorol | a wariror has thunderclap ready pretty much all the time |
| 16:55.03 | jnwhiteh | truth |
| 16:55.06 | Legorol | btw, interesting about your 1-3 pulls |
| 16:55.06 | jnwhiteh | and I do like that |
| 16:55.11 | jnwhiteh | why's that? |
| 16:55.14 | Legorol | D&D has insanely high threat |
| 16:55.19 | Legorol | i'd use that on any pull with more than 1 mob |
| 16:55.22 | Legorol | and sometimes even on 1 mob |
| 16:55.28 | jnwhiteh | i dont need to |
| 16:55.32 | jnwhiteh | my main attack has high threat as well |
| 16:55.38 | Legorol | it's a safety net too: your healer won't pull off you, impatient dps doesn't die that easily etc |
| 16:55.47 | Legorol | yah but on 3 mobs it takes time to get around to them all |
| 16:55.53 | jnwhiteh | the third mob can be an issue.. but i just react accordingly and move things around |
| 16:55.56 | Legorol | in 5-mans i just tank with: dnd-it-ps-pest |
| 16:56.02 | Legorol | rinse repeat on next pack |
| 16:56.03 | Kraps | Legorol: in sticky situations you get to really hate thunderclap's 6 sec CD |
| 16:56.10 | jnwhiteh | Kraps: this is true |
| 16:56.21 | jnwhiteh | because its either that, cleave or .. nothing |
| 16:56.24 | Legorol | i disagree, with a 6 sec cooldown it's almost always ready |
| 16:56.28 | Legorol | and if not, there's challenging shout |
| 16:56.33 | jnwhiteh | aye |
| 16:56.34 | Legorol | and your shockwave might be ready too |
| 16:56.37 | jnwhiteh | back to thesis reading |
| 16:56.40 | jnwhiteh | Legorol: i was only a level 30 tank |
| 16:56.43 | jnwhiteh | maybe that was part of my issue |
| 16:56.46 | jnwhiteh | i should go back to it at some point |
| 16:56.51 | Kraps | challenging shout is balls, i never know if it woeks |
| 16:56.56 | jnwhiteh | but my dk is geared much better, and I'm comfortable with it. |
| 16:57.10 | Legorol | Kraps: the dangerous part about it is that it often works even when you don't want it :D |
| 16:57.20 | Legorol | i have seen warriors (even dps) misclick challenging shout too many times :/ |
| 16:57.48 | Legorol | jnwhiteh: one more thing about DND. it actually has significant threat even on single target. |
| 16:57.58 | Legorol | it's supposedly the highest threat per rune ability |
| 16:58.31 | Legorol | anyway, you tank how you feel like, when i switched to using DND on every pull i found i can go to sleep |
| 16:58.51 | Legorol | oh and i can tank with one hand now :) the other can flip the TV remote if i use DnD |
| 16:58.54 | jnwhiteh | well that's no fun |
| 16:58.56 | jnwhiteh | I'm weird tho |
| 16:59.01 | Legorol | no i understand |
| 16:59.01 | jnwhiteh | I LOVE watching a mob run away from me |
| 16:59.04 | Legorol | :) |
| 16:59.06 | jnwhiteh | and then pulling him back with taunt |
| 16:59.09 | jnwhiteh | and then running again |
| 16:59.10 | Legorol | sometimes i do too, sometimes i don't |
| 16:59.12 | jnwhiteh | and i death grip him back |
| 16:59.14 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 16:59.19 | jnwhiteh | but this is all in non-heroics |
| 16:59.23 | Legorol | with daily heroic i just want to get it down asap with minimal hassle usually |
| 16:59.26 | jnwhiteh | i'd be more formulaic in pug heroics |
| 16:59.28 | jnwhiteh | yeah, i appreciate that |
| 16:59.42 | jnwhiteh | i do daily heroics on my druid every day.. and i love doing them with dk tanks |
| 16:59.42 | Legorol | i realise that DnD pulls are boring |
| 16:59.51 | jnwhiteh | the D&D pulls are more fun |
| 16:59.54 | jnwhiteh | i go for full threat |
| 17:00.09 | jnwhiteh | D&D, IT, PS, Pest, Boil, Death Strike, etc. |
| 17:00.10 | Legorol | btw, i hate blood tap / blood boil |
| 17:00.15 | Legorol | it totally screws up any decent rotation |
| 17:00.15 | jnwhiteh | I love bhoil |
| 17:00.18 | jnwhiteh | not tap |
| 17:00.19 | jnwhiteh | but boil |
| 17:00.32 | jnwhiteh | i just swap out a 'whatever the blood strike replacement is called' for boil on aoe pulls |
| 17:00.33 | Legorol | i usually prefer to use dark command/death grip and weave the new mobs into my normal rotation |
| 17:00.50 | Legorol | jnwhiteh: sure, that's fine |
| 17:00.55 | Legorol | i was talking about bt+bb |
| 17:01.00 | jnwhiteh | *nod* |
| 17:01.08 | jnwhiteh | that just my solution to an add pack |
| 17:01.11 | jnwhiteh | since D&D is hard to get back up |
| 17:01.15 | jnwhiteh | or plan to have ready |
| 17:01.16 | Legorol | since i normally do my rotation on autopilot without watching icons or cooldowns or whatnot, a blood rune out of place messes with my head |
| 17:01.40 | Legorol | sure i can cope with it if i have to.. but i don't like to :o) |
| 17:01.50 | Legorol | there's always ERW |
| 17:02.12 | Legorol | anyhoo, i'll let you get back to reading ^^ |
| 17:02.25 | Fisker | Legorols jnwhiteh |
| 17:03.53 | jnwhiteh | YOU WOULDNT SHIP FISKER A HTC HERO |
| 17:04.35 | Ackis | olafski: You have successfully redeemed a code for: Serious Sam HD: TFE. It has been added to your download queue. |
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| 17:04.47 | Ackis | olafski: I just won a code from major nelson's giveaways on twitter hehe |
| 17:05.35 | olafski | damn you |
| 17:05.40 | olafski | I love ssam |
| 17:06.11 | durcyn | it's fivebux on steam, go get it? |
| 17:06.12 | kdtresh | wasn't the original ssam in egypt or something? |
| 17:06.42 | olafski | I don't want it on steam |
| 17:06.44 | olafski | and yes it was |
| 17:06.53 | Fisker | why not olafski ? |
| 17:07.00 | olafski | you know why |
| 17:07.02 | Fisker | console fag? |
| 17:07.03 | durcyn | TFE was egypt, TSE isn't available on the updated engine yet |
| 17:07.10 | durcyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:07.16 | olafski | if I wanted it on steam I might as well use my regular copy of the game |
| 17:07.37 | durcyn | have you SEEN the new engine? |
| 17:07.46 | olafski | yes |
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| 17:07.53 | Ackis | hah my fiance was QQing via texts that someone stole her seat at the front of class (she's deaf in one ear, has to sit up close)... I responded with "huh?" |
| 17:07.56 | durcyn | then why are we still talking about this |
| 17:08.00 | Ackis | <-- soo getting in shit tonight |
| 17:08.21 | olafski | I don't really care about the graphics in this instance |
| 17:08.23 | Fisker | you should've beat him or her up |
| 17:08.30 | olafski | serious sam is just awesome, the original would have been fine |
| 17:08.31 | Fisker | the new engine sucks |
| 17:08.35 | Fisker | runs like shit and so forth |
| 17:08.37 | olafski | as long as it's on 360 and has achievements |
| 17:08.52 | olafski | funny, I didn't notice any of that |
| 17:09.01 | olafski | must've been a pc issue ;) |
| 17:09.57 | Fisker | moar like poor programming issue |
| 17:10.16 | olafski | if it works on my console I couldn't give a crap about how it runs on pc :D |
| 17:10.37 | durcyn | it's fine, fisker's drunk |
| 17:10.46 | olafski | is he ever sober? |
| 17:10.47 | Fisker | no |
| 17:11.25 | zenzelezz | never let your cat help you with your education - http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/01/15/funny-pictures-it-yor-welcome/ |
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| 17:30.52 | Lunessa | WIN - http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/1/15/ |
| 17:31.49 | durcyn | did you read the associated news tidbit, Lunessa? EA are waaaay over the top on this Dante's Inferno noise |
| 17:32.14 | Lunessa | durcyn: I did, and my amusement is magnified thereby |
| 17:32.52 | Ackis | did you see how they rickrolled people? |
| 17:33.07 | Kraps | hot http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/spamthrottle.aspx |
| 17:33.38 | durcyn | okay, i'll allow that the rickroll was great |
| 17:33.51 | Bruners | is there a way to check for global cooldown without doing it on a spell ? |
| 17:34.53 | durcyn | Bruners: the most reliable way is to check GetSpellCooldown on whatever just came in on SPELL_CAST_SUCCESS, there's no API for getting the GCD directly, unless you feel like trying to calculate it every time your haste rating changes |
| 17:35.19 | durcyn | also guaranteed to fail miserably on death knights when all runes of a certain type are on cooldown |
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| 17:36.48 | Bruners | hmm, thats not a bad idea |
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| 17:56.28 | Lopeppeppy | Stitch is restless. He needs more explosives. |
| 17:59.27 | nicoli_s | stitch as in the disney alien? |
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| 18:03.03 | Lopeppeppy | pounces all over alestane. RAWR! |
| 18:06.00 | Lopeppeppy | nicoli_s, yes. |
| 18:08.33 | Fisker | slaps Lopeppeppy around a bit with a large trout |
| 18:09.02 | Lopeppeppy | I love you too, Fisker. |
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| 18:11.07 | alestane | ono i is esceared of teh rawr! |
| 18:11.32 | alestane | Or not. 'RAWR' means 'I love you |
| 18:11.41 | alestane | "... in Dinosaur. |
| 18:11.50 | alestane | Stupid enter key right next to the quote. |
| 18:12.04 | KarlKFI | :P |
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| 18:12.44 | Kraps | i'm bored |
| 18:13.15 | Kraps | american idol auditions are funny though |
| 18:14.18 | zenzelezz | I'd prefer Japanese idol auditions |
| 18:15.36 | Kraps | eh, you cant understand what is said when they fail |
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| 18:16.00 | Floo | hello |
| 18:16.32 | zenzelezz | Kraps: you must not know what a "Japanese idol" is |
| 18:16.51 | Dagmar | gravura? |
| 18:17.02 | Lopeppeppy | guava? |
| 18:18.25 | Fisker | i am the dawg |
| 18:18.37 | Kraps | zenzelezz: no |
| 18:18.43 | Dagmar | Im not sure if that's the word or not--I just know that I'd probably never repeat in polite company the few phrases that stick in my mind |
| 18:19.11 | Kraps | yo floo how does it go... bro |
| 18:19.27 | Floo | I want same commands for 2 functions ... can I make it without copying commands or making a new function? |
| 18:19.29 | Floo | please |
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| 18:23.47 | alestane | Floo: I need more information about what you're trying to do. |
| 18:24.56 | Floo | function ArenaChange:ADDON_LOADED() |
| 18:24.56 | Floo | function ArenaChange:ARENA_TEAM_UPDATE() |
| 18:24.58 | Legorol | when you say "command", are you referring to slash commands? |
| 18:25.08 | Floo | I want same function for both |
| 18:25.15 | Legorol | those are events |
| 18:25.33 | Legorol | Floo: those are two functions already |
| 18:25.51 | Floo | yes and I want to make same thing when both occur |
| 18:25.56 | Legorol | you have two functions: ArenaChange.ADDON_LOADED and ArenaChagne.ARENA_TEAM_UPDATE |
| 18:26.17 | Legorol | wherever in your code you are registering these two functions to process the associated events, instead register just one function for both events |
| 18:26.39 | Legorol | if you pastey the part of your code that registers these functions for the ADDON_LOADED and ARENA_TEAM_UPDATE events, then i can give you suggestions on thow |
| 18:27.15 | Floo | its something like: ArenaChange:RegisterEvent("ADDON_LOADED", myfunction) ? |
| 18:27.22 | Legorol | yes |
| 18:27.27 | Floo | thanks |
| 18:27.29 | Legorol | you should find that at the moment you have two of those in your code |
| 18:28.00 | Legorol | and it probably currently looks something like: ArenaChange:RegisterEvent("ADDON_LOADED", ArenaChange.ADDON_LOADED) |
| 18:28.00 | Floo | and "myfunction" must be with () or without? |
| 18:28.10 | Legorol | but it really depends on how your code looks like at the moment |
| 18:28.40 | Legorol | from the fact that you have functions named the same way as the events, your code might be using some mechanism to automatically dispatch events to the appropriate functions |
| 18:28.50 | Legorol | this is why i asked you to find the place in your code that calls RegisterEvent, and paste it |
| 18:30.04 | alestane | When you call a function, use (); when you assign a function, don't. |
| 18:30.11 | Floo | http://pastebin.com/d39f631c6 |
| 18:31.27 | Legorol | Floo: that'd work, but is horrible naming |
| 18:31.41 | Legorol | having a function with the same name as your frame looks bad |
| 18:31.42 | Legorol | and confusing |
| 18:31.57 | Floo | I have frame? |
| 18:32.02 | Legorol | yes, ArenaChange is the name of a frame |
| 18:32.08 | Floo | its the first line? |
| 18:32.22 | Legorol | and all the rest of the lines in your code that has ArenaChange:... blah |
| 18:32.33 | Legorol | frames have OnEnable methods |
| 18:32.42 | Legorol | and RegisterEvent |
| 18:32.55 | Legorol | the Ace library is generating you a frame with the name ArenaChange |
| 18:32.59 | Legorol | (at a guess) |
| 18:33.06 | alestane | I think frames only have a RegisterEvent method if you create them with Ace. |
| 18:33.08 | Legorol | anyway, your function should be called something else to avoid confusion |
| 18:33.14 | nevcairiel | its not a frame |
| 18:33.23 | Legorol | but it has OnEnable? |
| 18:33.33 | Legorol | or is that something Ace specific |
| 18:33.42 | Legorol | ah i see |
| 18:33.44 | nevcairiel | thats ace specific |
| 18:33.53 | Legorol | so he is in fact using a custom event dispatcher, and not WoW's one |
| 18:34.06 | nevcairiel | which is just a wrapper around the wow dispatcher |
| 18:34.14 | Legorol | ok |
| 18:34.24 | Legorol | at any rate the function should be renamed |
| 18:34.49 | nevcairiel | why? |
| 18:34.56 | Legorol | because it's confusing imo |
| 18:35.01 | nevcairiel | the only error in the paste is that he has to quote "ArenaChange" |
| 18:35.10 | Legorol | it's syntactically correct, but confusing to read |
| 18:35.26 | Floo | and function ArenaChange:ArenaChange() was ok? |
| 18:35.29 | Seerah | and don't want him to get in the habit of using same names for things |
| 18:35.40 | Legorol | Floo: technically correct, but bad practice |
| 18:35.53 | Adys | call it ArenaChange:UpdateArena() or something |
| 18:35.57 | nevcairiel | the only error in the paste is that line |
| 18:35.59 | nevcairiel | eh |
| 18:36.04 | nevcairiel | the two lines, with RegisterEvent |
| 18:36.07 | Legorol | got to go, catch you later :) |
| 18:36.10 | nevcairiel | you have to quote the function name |
| 18:36.15 | nevcairiel | ArenaChange:RegisterEvent("ADDON_LOADED", "ArenaChange") |
| 18:36.33 | nevcairiel | that way it'll access a named method on the ArenaChange object |
| 18:36.45 | Floo | ok and then my function is "ArenaChange:ArenaChange" or just "ArenaChange"? |
| 18:36.59 | nevcairiel | just the name of the method |
| 18:37.09 | Adys | ArenaChange:ArenaChange is a method of ArenaChange |
| 18:37.19 | Adys | and if you renamed it it would be a lot less confusing to explain, for you |
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| 18:39.47 | Floo | http://pastebin.com/m46d2da71 |
| 18:40.41 | Floo | would this work? (I dont have team to test it now) |
| 18:41.56 | Floo | hmm error |
| 18:42.40 | nevcairiel | you still need ArenaChange:ArenaUpdate on line 10 |
| 18:45.25 | Floo | http://pastebin.com/d502916c5 |
| 18:45.37 | Floo | would this work? I have changed some |
| 18:46.01 | nevcairiel | looks sane on the first look |
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| 18:46.41 | nevcairiel | I'm just not sure what purpose line 14 serves, you just did the same command just a line earlier |
| 18:46.52 | nevcairiel | but it shouldnt break anything =P |
| 18:47.24 | Floo | yes I copy it because it return error and forgot to remove |
| 18:48.22 | Floo | if I make reload UI then its reseted or my arenaTeam table stay as it was? |
| 18:49.14 | nevcairiel | reloadui resets, unless you save it in SavedVariables |
| 18:49.26 | nevcairiel | which you are not doing there ;) |
| 18:50.46 | Floo | its crazy |
| 18:50.58 | Floo | I do reload and it return error |
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| 18:51.38 | Floo | Interface\AddOns\ArenaChange\Core.lua:21: attempt to perform arithmetic on global 'teamRating' (a nil value) |
| 18:52.08 | Floo | but the first if on line 13 would be executed because table is reseted |
| 18:52.25 | nevcairiel | i believe you just removed the wrong of the duplicate lines :D |
| 18:52.44 | nevcairiel | local teamName, teamSize, teamRating, _, _, _, _, _, _, teamRank = GetArenaTeam(id); <-- that line, should be directly below the line with "for" |
| 18:53.12 | Floo | yes it is |
| 18:53.26 | Floo | hmm maybe forgot save ^^ |
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| 18:55.06 | Floo | yes it now return no error thanks |
| 18:58.58 | jnwhiteh | write code, or play wow. |
| 18:59.02 | jnwhiteh | thoughts? |
| 18:59.06 | nevcairiel | write code |
| 18:59.09 | jnwhiteh | hrm |
| 18:59.14 | jnwhiteh | which addon? |
| 18:59.25 | nevcairiel | but i'm rather biased, playing is once again really boring to me |
| 18:59.54 | Cide | jnwhiteh, make a gui designer |
| 18:59.58 | jnwhiteh | no thanks. |
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| 19:00.09 | Cide | hey, it'd be great! |
| 19:00.14 | jnwhiteh | sure, but no! |
| 19:00.26 | Cide | fine! |
| 19:00.49 | jnwhiteh | k k |
| 19:00.53 | Cide | fine! |
| 19:00.58 | Cide | out of ideas then |
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| 19:06.24 | Fisker | personally fly to denmark and hand me my phone jnwhiteh |
| 19:07.18 | zenzelezz | Danish postal service also doesn't deliver on Saturdays? |
| 19:08.44 | Antiarc | jnwhiteh: I blame you for me being a consumer whore, btw >:| |
| 19:08.45 | Fisker | they do but only if you pay for it |
| 19:09.03 | Fisker | and i'll presume that this package isn't considered "express" in their system |
| 19:11.56 | Kraps | Neil Patrick Harris will be a guest judge on american idol lol |
| 19:12.27 | Kraps | and joe jonas |
| 19:12.29 | Kraps | wtf |
| 19:13.39 | Stanzilla | jnwhiteh: clique2 plx |
| 19:13.40 | zenzelezz | those names tell me nothing |
| 19:15.02 | Thunder_Child | http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/4/2010/01/humpdogtaxonomy.jpg |
| 19:15.31 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:23.17 | DJJeff | Any reason why GearScore is saying its dependancy is out of date |
| 19:23.18 | DJJeff | lol |
| 19:23.30 | DJJeff | when GearScore was JUST updated |
| 19:24.06 | Antiarc | Probably because you're using gearscore |
| 19:24.14 | Antiarc | And its libraries don't have a high enough gearscore to load with it |
| 19:24.24 | DJJeff | hahahaha? |
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| 19:24.32 | Adys | its a hint |
| 19:24.33 | Adys | it yells |
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| 19:24.37 | Adys | "UNINSTALL ME" |
| 19:24.47 | DJJeff | BonusScanner |
| 19:24.57 | DJJeff | thats the crap thats out of date |
| 19:25.01 | Seerah | DJJeff: because its library that comes with it hasn't been updated recently. Just check load out of date addons. |
| 19:25.40 | Dagmar | I thought Antiarc's joke was pretty good, akshually |
| 19:26.02 | DJJeff | meh |
| 19:27.03 | DJJeff | BonusScanner wont even show up in Curse.com Client |
| 19:27.05 | DJJeff | how lame |
| 19:28.02 | DJJeff | their website is something to lol @ too.... |
| 19:28.02 | DJJeff | http://bonusscanner.com/ |
| 19:28.06 | DJJeff | Index of / |
| 19:28.47 | Dagmar | *sigh* Why is it you think that's _their_ site? |
| 19:28.50 | DJJeff | Curseforge says BonusScanner is Abandon |
| 19:28.59 | Seerah | Like I said. Enable Load out of date addons. |
| 19:29.19 | DJJeff | so why something thats up to date like Gear use something thats out of date like BonusScanner |
| 19:29.26 | DJJeff | GearScore* |
| 19:29.27 | Seerah | Because it's a library |
| 19:29.30 | zenzelezz | "Residents in Craigavon, South Africa complained of '[h]eadaches, nausea, tinnitus, dry burning itchy skins, gastric imbalances and totally disrupted sleep patterns' after an iBurst communications tower was put up in a local park. Symptoms subsided when the residents left the area, often to stay with family and thus evade their suffering. At a public meeting with the afflicted locals, the tower's owners pledged to switch off the mast i |
| 19:29.30 | zenzelezz | mmediately to assess whether it was responsible for their ailments. One problem: the mast had already been switched off for six weeks. Lawyers representing the locals say their case against iBurst will continue on other grounds." |
| 19:29.32 | Dagmar | DJJeff: Well, we can tell you don't code much |
| 19:29.33 | Antiarc | (just get ElitistGroup, it's better) |
| 19:29.36 | Seerah | and GearScore wants to use that library. |
| 19:30.00 | Seerah | if it just embedded it instead of including it externally, you wouldn't even know the difference. |
| 19:30.29 | Dagmar | Antiarc: I dunno. It's clearly got some of the same problems, i.e., morons reading it |
| 19:30.45 | Dagmar | I got rejected from a VoA pug over it lol |
| 19:31.32 | jnwhiteh | Antiarc: k k.. why now? |
| 19:31.54 | Antiarc | jnwhiteh: The nexus one thing you retweeted yesterday |
| 19:32.05 | Antiarc | I followed your lead and felt dirty and terrible and secretly hoped I won |
| 19:32.06 | Dagmar | Im like "Wait, I've got freaking 4 pieces of T9 for god's sake |
| 19:32.10 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 19:32.33 | zenzelezz | Dagmar: clearly they've modified their addon to account for your lack of skills |
| 19:32.52 | Dagmar | Last time I was there I punched out almost 5k dps |
| 19:32.58 | Dagmar | ...an that was six months ago |
| 19:33.12 | Dagmar | I just don't do 10/25-mans much |
| 19:33.18 | zenzelezz | obvious joke was not obvious? |
| 19:33.40 | Dagmar | I just find the situation from yesterday too baffling to be funny |
| 19:33.57 | zenzelezz | the situation isn't, my super-clever joke is! |
| 19:34.23 | Lopeppeppy | Drink more Ovaltine?!? |
| 19:34.24 | Dagmar | Seriously, all epic gems, damn near 5k attack power unbuffed, average item level like 234 and I see "Sorry not geared enough" in the window |
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| 19:34.41 | Antiarc | Were you the same class as the raid leader? |
| 19:34.56 | Antiarc | (those people usually get a -50ilvl penalty when considered for invites) |
| 19:35.02 | Dagmar | Dunno. I thought about it a minute and just sent back ROFLLOL and went on about my business |
| 19:35.32 | Dagmar | I'm half wondering if it was someone who's been drinkning the "BM is not raid viable" kool-aid |
| 19:36.22 | Dagmar | goes to see about macaroon conditionals that detect zones |
| 19:37.41 | Pneu | Dagmar: got a green/blue item somewhere? |
| 19:38.55 | Dagmar | hahah no |
| 19:39.24 | Dagmar | I think the guy probably just looked at how often I go into 10/25-mans and decided I couldn't possibly have enough gear for a 10/25-man boss |
| 19:39.31 | Pneumatus | i had lots of nubs turn down my rogue for pugs while i had a blue trinket :< |
| 19:39.33 | kdtresh | were you dating the raid leader's sister and then dumped her? |
| 19:39.37 | Pneumatus | everything else was ilevel 232+ |
| 19:39.47 | jnwhiteh | BUT WHAT IS YOUR GEAR SCORE?! |
| 19:39.49 | Dagmar | I mean, it was a post-WG VoA pug, so the chances it was some 12-year old with a deranged idea of progression are not low |
| 19:39.57 | Dagmar | jnwhite: ~4800 |
| 19:40.07 | Pneumatus | jnwhiteh: whatever i tell GearScoreBreaker to report |
| 19:40.13 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 19:40.16 | Pneumatus | usually in the 10-15k range ;) |
| 19:40.23 | jnwhiteh | they require a 2.7k on my server |
| 19:40.23 | jnwhiteh | i think |
| 19:40.47 | Pneumatus | raids regularly ask for 5k+ here |
| 19:41.05 | jnwhiteh | so |
| 19:41.08 | jnwhiteh | do I write TomTom_Lite |
| 19:41.11 | jnwhiteh | or Clique2 |
| 19:41.16 | jnwhiteh | i'm not terribly motivated to do either. |
| 19:41.25 | nevcairiel | whats to be different in _Lite? |
| 19:41.25 | Pneumatus | both work just fine for me :o |
| 19:41.47 | jnwhiteh | lite will just be the crazy arrow, will work better with the POIs and will (ideally) have queuing mechanisms, etc. |
| 19:41.52 | Pneumatus | except i can't get tomtom to show an arrow when i click on a POI or something |
| 19:41.52 | mascondante | has a headache. He's still troubleshooting getting the hardware protected event thing working. |
| 19:42.05 | jnwhiteh | 'hardware protected event thing'? |
| 19:42.10 | Lopeppeppy | has a gearscore of fourscore and seven. |
| 19:43.17 | mascondante | jnwhiteh: yeah calling a function that requires a hardware event. |
| 19:43.35 | jnwhiteh | what about it? |
| 19:43.39 | jnwhiteh | what's to troubleshoot? |
| 19:44.14 | mascondante | I'm not doing it correctly I believe. That function is getting ignored. |
| 19:44.35 | jnwhiteh | what function |
| 19:44.37 | jnwhiteh | and how are you calling it? |
| 19:44.39 | jnwhiteh | call it in an OnClick |
| 19:44.44 | jnwhiteh | or in response to a keybinding |
| 19:44.50 | jnwhiteh | that's basically it. |
| 19:46.11 | mascondante | CancelAuction() and I'm calling it this way (forgive the spam): |
| 19:46.11 | mascondante | frame.cancelundercutButton:SetScript("OnClick", function(self) |
| 19:46.11 | mascondante | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:46.11 | mascondante | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:46.11 | mascondante | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:46.23 | jnwhiteh | you should pastey.net |
| 19:46.28 | jnwhiteh | rather tan say 'forgive the spam' |
| 19:46.41 | mascondante | I can do that =D |
| 19:46.52 | jnwhiteh | where do you actually _call_ CancelAuction |
| 19:46.55 | jnwhiteh | is that code ever being called |
| 19:46.59 | jnwhiteh | have you proven this? |
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| 19:47.53 | mascondante | yes. everything in cancelAuctions works. I have it set to print the ids right before CancelAuction(i) |
| 19:48.06 | jnwhiteh | and its calling it immediately? |
| 19:50.37 | mascondante | it's in a seperate function. I bet that's the problem. Here give me a sec and I'll show you something |
| 19:51.18 | jnwhiteh | please don't PM me |
| 19:51.23 | jnwhiteh | i'm not the only who is going to/will help you |
| 19:51.32 | jnwhiteh | keep it in this channel, otherwise the burden is solely on me =) |
| 19:51.51 | alestane | Pasteys are a better way yo share long portions of work. |
| 19:51.52 | alestane | to* |
| 19:52.10 | jnwhiteh | eh pasteyed it |
| 19:52.11 | jnwhiteh | to me =) |
| 19:52.26 | mascondante | ok here's the whole thing. I think it will be easier to understand that way. http://www.pastey.net/131495 |
| 19:52.39 | Dagmar | I make sure to tell people who PM me what I'm wearing. |
| 19:52.47 | jnwhiteh | the only times you call CancelAuction |
| 19:52.51 | jnwhiteh | you're not in a hardware handler |
| 19:52.58 | jnwhiteh | you're in a loop each time |
| 19:53.08 | jnwhiteh | This is why it does not work |
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| 19:53.51 | nevcairiel | heh trying to delegate work with coroutines .. not so smart in this case :P |
| 19:54.29 | mascondante | ah I see that now. This is the first addon I've worked on. (that should explain my ignorance lol) |
| 19:55.56 | Thunder_Child | http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/4/2010/01/500x_vginfo.jpg |
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| 19:56.06 | alestane | You probably line them up from inside a hardware response and then execute the queue from an OnUpdate? |
| 19:57.42 | jnwhiteh | Anyone happen to have a list of mapIDs and the height/width of the given map. |
| 20:01.13 | mascondante | alestane: I get what you're saying, I'm afraid I don't really have enough knowledge to do that much changing. I'm still at the point of picking stuff apart and trying to understand how it works. =/ |
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| 20:03.09 | mascondante | I wonder if I could have it make a popup right before CancelAuction(i) and do it that way... Sort of like the regular Cancel popup. |
| 20:07.09 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glOv4MIyNSE&feature=video_response |
| 20:08.03 | Fisker | slaps Kraps around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:08.09 | Fisker | slaps jnwhiteh around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:09.13 | mascondante | ~trout Fisker |
| 20:09.14 | purl | ACTION slaps Fisker around a bit with a large trout! |
| 20:09.31 | alestane | The CancelAuction function must be called from within a hardware handler. |
| 20:10.01 | alestane | So if it's in the OnClick of the Okay button on the popup, you should be able to make it work. |
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| 20:12.36 | Thunder_Child | *sigh* i am such a whore |
| 20:12.56 | alestane | For what, in this case? |
| 20:13.01 | Thunder_Child | wow |
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| 20:14.26 | Fisker | i killed Thunder_Child |
| 20:14.49 | Thunder_Child | who did you kill? |
| 20:16.30 | Fisker | Thunder_Child |
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| 20:19.01 | Thunder_Child | for anyone that has chrome can you access us.battle.net/account? |
| 20:19.15 | Dagmar | Yep. |
| 20:19.30 | Dagmar | The page loads up fine after a short redirect to https |
| 20:19.33 | alestane | Fisker: Apparently you need to try harder, it didn't take the first time. |
| 20:19.41 | Thunder_Child | hmm...mine becomes "unresponsive" |
| 20:19.43 | Fisker | are you Thunder_Child ? |
| 20:19.49 | Fisker | works here as well Thunder_Child |
| 20:19.56 | Dagmar | *might* be a DNS issue |
| 20:21.22 | Thunder_Child | actually Dagmar it seems to be a https redirect to https |
| 20:21.49 | Thunder_Child | https://us.battle.net/login/login.xml?ref=https://us.battle.net/account/management/index.xml&app=bam thats what kills me |
| 20:22.03 | Thunder_Child | (yes, that kills me more than fisker) |
| 20:22.17 | Dagmar | It first redirects to https://us.battle.net/account/index.xml |
| 20:22.41 | Dagmar | ...but either way it works fine here. |
| 20:22.53 | Dagmar | My guess is that there's a cname in one of the stylesheets it's pulling in that's failed you and is tanking things. |
| 20:22.57 | Dagmar | _guess_ |
| 20:23.13 | Dagmar | ...just because that's the usual reason for failures like that. |
| 20:23.24 | Dagmar | Either that or Blizz has you IP blocked because of all the drama |
| 20:23.33 | Dagmar | ;) |
| 20:24.46 | Thunder_Child | well typing in us.battle.net/account goes directly to the link i posted |
| 20:24.48 | Thunder_Child | for me at least |
| 20:26.03 | Thunder_Child | and i would hardly be surprised if blizz blocked me :( |
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| 20:43.51 | Fisker | slaps Thunder_Child around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:45.47 | alestane | What sort of alien creature is this exactly? http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/01/13/funny-pictures-remoov-ur-hand/ |
| 20:46.32 | Dagmar | That _is_ actually a cat |
| 20:49.23 | Lopeppeppy | Could be a tribble |
| 20:51.19 | Thunder_Child | eats Fiskers trout |
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| 20:58.24 | Fisker | i jack bauer u |
| 20:58.44 | Thunder_Child | thats fine, i dont like 24 anyway |
| 21:03.16 | mascondante | ~slap Thunder_Child |
| 21:03.17 | purl | ACTION slaps Thunder_Child, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 21:03.38 | Thunder_Child | ~parry mascondante |
| 21:03.49 | Thunder_Child | why purl, why |
| 21:03.59 | Thunder_Child | ~whaleparry mascondante |
| 21:04.00 | purl | ACTION uses a slightly less-huge but eminently more agile killer whale named Edwardo to parry mascondante's attacks. |
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| 21:04.32 | mascondante | gasps and realizes he's outmatched... for now |
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| 21:07.49 | Kraps | everyone know that parry sucks, you need dodge |
| 21:09.45 | Thunder_Child | dodge exists |
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| 21:15.17 | Shirik | so I went to mcdonalds and got something with no onions |
| 21:15.27 | Shirik | on the grill slip, it says "W/O SLIV O" |
| 21:15.33 | Shirik | wtf is that supposed to mean |
| 21:16.02 | Shirik | slivers of onions? |
| 21:17.11 | amro | I think SLIV is short for saliva |
| 21:18.00 | Thunder_Child | type of onion maybe? |
| 21:18.46 | Thunder_Child | and i would that you to keep your comments to yourself Shirik...because they are making me hungry :( |
| 21:18.56 | Thunder_Child | s/that/thank/ |
| 21:19.12 | Shirik | mcdonalds is making you hungry |
| 21:19.21 | Shirik | I thought most people were scared of mcdonalds |
| 21:19.50 | Thunder_Child | i have had burgers from the best and the worst and honestly, they all taste the same to me |
| 21:21.13 | Shirik | five guys? |
| 21:21.24 | Shirik | aka instant-heart-attack? |
| 21:21.35 | Thunder_Child | huh? |
| 21:21.48 | Shirik | have you ever had a five guys burger? |
| 21:21.57 | Thunder_Child | not that i know of |
| 21:22.18 | Shirik | http://www.sptimes.com/2007/09/19/images/tb-five.jpg <-- Well known chain that is famous for making instant-heart-attack burgers |
| 21:23.14 | Thunder_Child | but that doesnt make a burger good automaticly |
| 21:23.22 | Shirik | oh it's good |
| 21:23.28 | Shirik | it's deadly good, literally |
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| 21:33.28 | Shirik | Ha, I didn't know my client collapses k-line quits in the same manner it does netsplits |
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| 21:33.47 | Shirik | (16:22:01)  -⺠K-Line: pmrvtdbddkd, wkhv, ysfrmreb, xmihpcqiq (4 quits) |
| 21:34.45 | Lizz | *almost done with dropdowns!!!* Following Xinhuan's guide, I can't see his screenshots... If I generate menus in the same fashion, what must I do to size and add visual information to the dropdown frame (if anything)? Or do they just inherit the frame information and size automatically according to title length? |
| 21:34.49 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:35.04 | Shirik | slaps a large trout around a bit with Fisker |
| 21:35.14 | Lizz | lol |
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| 21:39.49 | Lizz | or, farther into that forum topic I seem to have found an answer ^.^ |
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| 21:57.41 | Thunder_Child | sleeps Fisker |
| 22:00.09 | zenzelezz | with? |
| 22:07.31 | Lizz | ^^ Trout, I suspect |
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| 22:16.07 | Shirik | hahaha @ this email |
| 22:16.13 | Shirik | Recently one of the members of your guild was the victim of an account compromise, and during the course of our investigation it was discovered that items were removed from the guild bank while the account was out of the control of your guild member. The items have been returned to you as attachments to an in-game mail. We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this has caused. |
| 22:16.21 | Shirik | That was nice of them, until I realized what it was |
| 22:16.31 | Shirik | Item(s) Restored: |
| 22:16.31 | Shirik | Dwarven Hand Cannon |
| 22:17.07 | Adys | I had similar stuff with netherweave cloth |
| 22:17.25 | Shirik | it's like "seriously, just keep it, it's not worth the slot" |
| 22:17.30 | Dagmar | Isn't that an alliance-only item? |
| 22:17.34 | Adys | no |
| 22:17.37 | Dagmar | Okay |
| 22:17.39 | Adys | world drop boe epic |
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| 22:18.06 | Shirik | level 58 |
| 22:18.06 | Shirik | lol |
| 22:21.49 | Shirik | ScytheBlade1! |
| 22:22.51 | Shirik | or anyone that knows linux fairly well |
| 22:22.59 | Shirik | the HOSTNAME envvar, is that supposed to be "foo" or "foo.com"? |
| 22:23.46 | NightHawkTheSane | I -think- 'foo', but don't quote me on that |
| 22:23.54 | Shirik | It would make sense |
| 22:23.56 | cbreak | Shirik: I got a similar mail a few days ago. Containing some Primal Lifes... |
| 22:24.04 | Shirik | I set it to foo.com and it WORKS, but it seems to be wrong |
| 22:28.02 | cbreak | my HOSTNAME is artefact.local |
| 22:28.23 | cbreak | it's the name my computer gets advertised by Bonjour, among other things |
| 22:28.57 | Shirik | see that would imply that it should be foo.com |
| 22:29.07 | Shirik | (.local is because it's not an external name, only an internal one) |
| 22:29.09 | cbreak | there should be a utility "hostname" that reports it too |
| 22:29.27 | cbreak | yeah |
| 22:29.42 | Shirik | but my logs seem to indicate that's wrong |
| 22:29.47 | Shirik | trying to find exactly where I saw the warning |
| 22:29.51 | Shirik | grep is failing me |
| 22:31.07 | cbreak | nslookup foo.com gives me 64.94.125.138. Is that you? :) |
| 22:31.17 | Shirik | foo.com was an example... |
| 22:31.25 | Shirik | nslookup and all that is right, that's not the problem |
| 22:31.40 | Shirik | that's all managed by my DNS server |
| 22:32.21 | Fisker | Shiibot |
| 22:32.23 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 22:32.30 | Fisker | helloooooo |
| 22:32.31 | Shirik | failure |
| 22:33.40 | Fisker | why so mean Shirik ? |
| 22:40.15 | Fisker | http://multimedia.ekstrabladet.dk/eb/archive/00509/Dyremishandling__Bo_509160d.jpg <-what people don't do for new rugs |
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| 22:46.39 | Adys | nevcairiel: my favourite magicker |
| 22:46.39 | Adys | I think ill need you soon |
| 22:49.03 | Adys | and i do |
| 22:49.03 | Adys | although this might be more of a bash thing |
| 22:49.03 | Adys | I got a directory full of foo.png |
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| 22:49.04 | Adys | I want to convert them to foo.thumbnail.jpg in that same director |
| 22:49.04 | Adys | +y |
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| 23:23.38 | Wobin | wow, what happened to poor freenode? =( |
| 23:23.52 | Adys | Arrowmaster: how do I split the extension off in bash? |
| 23:24.16 | Adys | oh |
| 23:24.16 | Adys | cut |
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| 23:24.32 | Duman | unf |
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| 23:42.27 | kd3 | oh good god |
| 23:42.31 | kd3 | my mother found me on facebook |
| 23:43.14 | jnwhiteh | wow |
| 23:43.14 | jnwhiteh | what the fuck is on with freenode |
| 23:44.14 | batrick | !ping |
| 23:44.29 | batbot | batrick: pong! |
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| 23:46.53 | Floo | hellou |
| 23:46.55 | Floo | again me |
| 23:46.59 | Floo | ArenaChange:ADDON_LOADED() |
| 23:47.05 | Floo | why arg1 is some addons |
| 23:47.17 | Floo | but not my addon |
| 23:47.18 | Floo | ? |
| 23:47.58 | Floo | function ArenaChange:ADDON_LOADED() |
| 23:47.58 | Floo | print(arg1) |
| 23:48.21 | Floo | it print me quartz or another but not ArenaChange |
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| 23:58.40 | DJJeff | This life is a test. It is only a test. Had this been an actual life, you |
| 23:58.40 | DJJeff | would have received further instructions as to what to do and where to go. |
| 23:58.40 | DJJeff | I lol'ed |
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