| 00:00.13 | Shirik | ln /IGNORE:UNDEFINED |
| 00:00.32 | Shirik | :P |
| 00:00.48 | Shirik | who cares about undefined symbols, no big deal |
| 00:00.53 | foxlit | I kind of need the x264 encoder, though! |
| 00:00.57 | Shirik | if you needed the code the guy would have written it |
| 00:01.08 | Shirik | :P |
| 00:01.39 | haste | foxlit: compiling with x264, but no x264 lib :P ? |
| 00:01.52 | Shirik | just build it into the kernel |
| 00:01.58 | haste | wat |
| 00:02.00 | foxlit | haste: configure checks for x264, though |
| 00:02.04 | Shirik | Because EVERYTHING SHOULD BE IN THE KERNEL |
| 00:02.06 | Shirik | LOLLINUX |
| 00:02.13 | foxlit | [and I just built that, so it's kind of silly.] |
| 00:02.26 | haste | and it's a new enough version :p ? |
| 00:02.27 | *** join/#wowuidev kraft (n=kraft_@94.196.228.8.threembb.co.uk) |
| 00:02.36 | haste | libavcodec really likes to use new versions of stuff |
| 00:02.36 | foxlit | It might be too new a version. |
| 00:03.10 | haste | think their last API breakage was at the end of 2009 |
| 00:03.14 | foxlit | (both are their git HEAD) |
| 00:04.08 | *** join/#wowuidev theorb (n=theorb@91.84.53.6) |
| 00:05.12 | foxlit | Wonder how that error message is supposed to be read |
| 00:05.54 | Shirik | ? |
| 00:05.57 | Shirik | what error message |
| 00:06.14 | foxlit | Undefined symbols from the linker. |
| 00:06.34 | Shirik | It's read exactly as it says :/ |
| 00:07.22 | Shirik | The symbol _x264_encoder_open_80 is undefined and is used by _X264_init as present in libavcodec.a which was built from libx264.o |
| 00:07.57 | foxlit | so, clearly, the leading underscores are appended by something automatic and meaningless. |
| 00:08.03 | Shirik | that's a mangled name |
| 00:08.16 | foxlit | _80, though, some sort of argument spec? |
| 00:08.18 | Shirik | I don't know gcc's mangling convention, and I'm assuming it's for C |
| 00:08.26 | *** join/#wowuidev krafty (n=kraft_@cpc2-cwma7-2-0-cust130.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 00:08.43 | Shirik | if it's for C, it will just be the symbol name, or potentially with an underscore in front of it |
| 00:08.51 | haste | yay for updating the sandbox, but not the configurations |
| 00:08.52 | Shirik | if it's for C++, there is argument data as well |
| 00:09.02 | haste | watches icecream SPEW access violations. |
| 00:14.17 | Jerub | i think armory's down |
| 00:15.25 | *** join/#wowuidev Pneumatus (n=WiN@unaffiliated/pneumatus) |
| 00:18.25 | kd3 | maintenance.xml |
| 00:18.27 | kd3 | indeed |
| 00:18.38 | foxlit | so I should've built the shared library. Who knew? |
| 00:20.26 | Dagmar | raises his hand |
| 00:20.32 | Dagmar | I just compiled those three two days ago. |
| 00:21.45 | cbreak | x264 doesn't build a shared library by default |
| 00:21.50 | Dagmar | Unless you despise free RAM, you pretty much always want to have shared libs |
| 00:21.50 | cbreak | only a static library |
| 00:22.00 | cbreak | because it's faster that way |
| 00:22.14 | cbreak | it doesn't make a difference with the ammount of free ram |
| 00:22.17 | Dagmar | I'd rather have my RAM |
| 00:22.31 | Dagmar | ...and yes, shared libraries do make a difference |
| 00:22.32 | cbreak | since you are unlikely to run two applications that use x264 at the same time |
| 00:22.40 | cbreak | nope |
| 00:22.42 | Dagmar | Yes. |
| 00:22.47 | Dagmar | I'm running MythTV for one thing |
| 00:22.53 | cbreak | it can saturate an 8 core machine with a single instance |
| 00:23.03 | Dagmar | The speed difference between a shared and a static lib is marginal at best |
| 00:23.03 | cbreak | why would you run a second application? |
| 00:23.29 | Dagmar | cbreak: Because I *might* very well be _watching_ one video while transcoding another in the background. |
| 00:23.34 | cbreak | so? |
| 00:23.40 | cbreak | x264 can not decode |
| 00:23.57 | Dagmar | That it can saturate a core means nothing to me. |
| 00:24.04 | cbreak | not one. 8 :) |
| 00:24.20 | cbreak | probably more, but with some quality loss |
| 00:24.22 | Dagmar | I also frequently have multiple transcodes going |
| 00:24.31 | Dagmar | ...because I have a multi-core machine |
| 00:24.43 | Dagmar | If you have single-sliced h.264 video, multiple cores will do nothing |
| 00:24.52 | Dagmar | ...and that's what the HD-PVR currently emits. |
| 00:25.03 | cbreak | sure they will |
| 00:25.26 | cbreak | if you want, take a look at the multi-threaded ffmpeg |
| 00:25.34 | Dagmar | It can't multithread with single-sliced |
| 00:25.38 | cbreak | sure it can |
| 00:25.40 | cbreak | try it :) |
| 00:25.47 | Dagmar | Been there done that |
| 00:25.52 | cbreak | It works for me |
| 00:26.05 | Dagmar | Believe me I bent over freaking backwards to get the damn thing to playback some files in realtime |
| 00:26.14 | Dagmar | IF it could have multi-threaded it, I would have been using that |
| 00:26.27 | cbreak | I have a multi threaded ffmpeg |
| 00:26.28 | cbreak | no problems |
| 00:26.38 | Dagmar | So do I. It still doesn't affect limitations in the encoder |
| 00:27.00 | Dagmar | s/encoder/encoder\/decoder/; |
| 00:27.35 | cbreak | unlike the old ffmpeg it does not require sliced streams to do multi-threaded decoding |
| 00:29.43 | Dagmar | http://multimedia.cx/eggs/multithreaded-ffmpeg-programming/ |
| 00:31.04 | *** join/#wowuidev Tuller (n=muffins@pool-72-84-246-12.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net) |
| 00:31.10 | cbreak | I did take the easy way |
| 00:31.12 | Shirik | I really don't get why #freenode is such a favorite channel for attackers |
| 00:31.28 | Shirik | it's the easiest way for you to get noticed by an op |
| 00:32.01 | cbreak | and just cloned git://repo.or.cz/mplayer-build.git and built it after switching to mt |
| 00:38.36 | Jerub | I'm starting to really enjoy blagging about wow instead of just ranting about it. |
| 00:40.45 | ZorbaTHut | shirik, you're assuming they're trying to accomplish anything besides getting noticed |
| 00:41.04 | Shirik | wouldn't you be more noticed if you stay around longer? |
| 00:41.15 | Shirik | you just wouldn't be noticed by the people that can actually do something about it |
| 00:41.18 | Jerub | had a shamman in a random pug last night out dps the DK |
| 00:41.36 | Jerub | .. the DK was a guildmate, the shamman was a healer. |
| 00:45.09 | Kraps | i'm lost... how do i start a group chat in gtalk? |
| 00:46.03 | haste | group chat :p / |
| 00:46.18 | Kraps | eh |
| 00:46.19 | *** join/#wowuidev Shadowed (n=Shadowed@li89-205.members.linode.com) |
| 00:46.29 | Lopeppeppy | Try googling directions? http://www.askdavetaylor.com/how_to_start_group_chat_google_gchat.html |
| 00:46.45 | haste | oh lawl, I somehow read gchat not gtalk |
| 00:47.39 | Kraps | Lopeppeppy: i'm looking for gtalk specifically |
| 00:48.16 | Lopeppeppy | Then google that. I just did, got tons of hits. |
| 00:49.47 | Shirik | !!! |
| 00:49.54 | Shirik | freenode is switching to ircd-seven on 30 Jan |
| 00:50.13 | Lopeppeppy | What's that mean to you, Shirik? |
| 00:50.25 | Shirik | not much really, lol |
| 00:50.32 | Shirik | just yay for them |
| 00:53.08 | Shirik | time 4 homez |
| 00:53.09 | Shirik | bai |
| 00:53.24 | Kraps | redonkulus - http://googletalk.blogspot.com/2007/06/group-chat-for-google-talk-gadget.html is not http://www.google.com/talk/ , look at the pictures |
| 00:55.03 | KarlKFI|work | they need an app liek that for google wave |
| 00:55.52 | KarlKFI|work | restricting it to a browser is sily |
| 00:56.52 | Lopeppeppy | On second thought, let's not go there, 'tis a silly place. |
| 00:57.06 | kd3 | man... the new occ is a joke |
| 00:57.12 | kd3 | free triumph badges galore too |
| 00:57.39 | foxlit | kd3: but me-sa challenged? |
| 00:58.01 | haste | kd3: and yet people still fail at it ! :D |
| 00:58.33 | Kraps | they actually downgraded gtalk |
| 00:58.43 | Kraps | ~fail google |
| 00:58.44 | purl | You suck at everything in life, google. I hate you because you fail. |
| 01:01.39 | Jerub | new occy fixes a bunch of poor design decisions the wrong way. |
| 01:02.01 | Jerub | the biggest occy fail was the bit where if you're on the ground and in combat with a drake in the air, you die. |
| 01:02.27 | Jerub | they 'fixed' it by removing more drakes, instead of allowing you to say... mount up. |
| 01:02.30 | *** join/#wowuidev Mikk (n=Mikk@WoWUIDev/mikk) |
| 01:02.55 | kd3 | meh; that's because what happens if you get your drake killed on the last boss but land on land? you'll be able to remount |
| 01:02.58 | Dagmar | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:03.19 | foxlit | kd3: also fixable |
| 01:03.21 | Jerub | kd3: sure. what's wrong with that? |
| 01:03.29 | foxlit | Jerub: zerg zerg zerg? |
| 01:03.45 | Jerub | foxlit: okay? |
| 01:04.01 | foxlit | Flawed design if you can basically duo th efinal boss by standing on a platform. |
| 01:04.07 | *** join/#wowuidev jacobeiting (n=jacobeit@cpe-75-187-56-220.columbus.res.rr.com) |
| 01:04.21 | Jerub | the list of poor design decisions is so long you have to scrap the whole lot and rebuild it from scratch. |
| 01:04.41 | Jerub | i.e. move the fight to where you always die if you fall, make it so you fight over a burning surface, etc. |
| 01:04.49 | Jerub | lots of reasonable ideas. |
| 01:05.04 | foxlit | Have him instakill you if you're dismounted. |
| 01:05.11 | Jerub | but the number of times i've wiped in occy because of not being able to see a drake is too close after we land :/ |
| 01:05.23 | foxlit | But those are all additional changes you have to make. |
| 01:05.24 | Jerub | so now they've nerfed it beyond recognition. |
| 01:05.35 | Jerub | instead of admitting or fixing their design mistakes. |
| 01:05.41 | kd3 | faster this way |
| 01:05.53 | kd3 | they're all in cataclysm mode anyway |
| 01:06.09 | foxlit | Their mistakes are not really the problem. |
| 01:06.35 | foxlit | It's the "but zomg it's a vehicle" crowd that just bails on that instance. |
| 01:07.26 | Dagmar | I'm of the opinion that _death_ should be a little dangerous. |
| 01:07.52 | Dagmar | It would just be sad if every time you fell from the sky you landed in a conveniently placed bale of hay or something. |
| 01:08.12 | Jerub | yeah, just no parachute would be enough |
| 01:08.42 | foxlit | Those drakes provide you with a parachute? |
| 01:08.59 | kd3 | yes |
| 01:09.08 | foxlit | Is that new? |
| 01:09.10 | kd3 | no |
| 01:09.32 | Kraps | Dagmar: Altair can do that, and hes an assassin |
| 01:09.37 | Arrowmaster | like everything that flies does |
| 01:09.45 | Dagmar | The parachute likes to get it's feelings all hurt and go away if you slap the button to drink some slow fall beer |
| 01:09.45 | foxlit | Interesting. I do recall wiping on that encounter, but I've generally not been able to avoid death except through heading for a platform and timing shadowmeld right. |
| 01:09.51 | Kraps | no one in wow is as badass as he is |
| 01:10.40 | Arrowmaster | Kraps: Ezio is more badass |
| 01:10.59 | Kraps | checks for a release date |
| 01:11.31 | Kraps | Assassin's Creed 2 on PC has an expected release date on Tuesday 16 March 2010 |
| 01:11.37 | Kraps | WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
| 01:11.59 | Arrowmaster | and i had 1000/1000GS back in november |
| 01:12.22 | *** join/#wowuidev Mikk (n=Mikk@WoWUIDev/mikk) |
| 01:13.09 | kd3 | gah |
| 01:13.12 | kd3 | damn world server lag |
| 01:13.14 | kd3 | sighs |
| 01:13.59 | Jerub | fuck. |
| 01:14.13 | Jerub | spelled the shamman's name wrong in my nicely titled video of our ony10 kill. |
| 01:21.23 | Thunder_Child | http://kotaku.com/5447462/cops-man-promising-to-sell-world-of-warcraft-characters-cheated-gamers |
| 01:21.49 | *** join/#wowuidev sprawl (n=sprawl@pool-74-111-0-91.syrcny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 01:22.29 | Shirik | btw foxlit, I just remembered the command so |
| 01:22.31 | Shirik | $ c++filt _x264_encoder_open_80 |
| 01:22.32 | Shirik | _x264_encoder_open_80 |
| 01:22.41 | Shirik | so it's definitely a C symbol, and the 80 is part of the name |
| 01:23.18 | foxlit | Well, that's at least a partial success on your part. :) |
| 01:23.33 | foxlit | It is (presumably) a C symbol, but 80 is not part of the name. |
| 01:23.44 | Shirik | I disagree |
| 01:23.49 | Shirik | unless it is neither C++ nor C |
| 01:24.05 | Shirik | C doesn't use mangled names because there's no reason to |
| 01:24.40 | foxlit | I just looked at the source. belonging to the .o file that generated that error |
| 01:25.20 | Kraps | creates a twitter account. The beast awaits. |
| 01:25.25 | *** join/#wowuidev Funkeh` (n=funk@82.111.117.38) |
| 01:25.35 | Shirik | Are you sure it's not a macro that is going off to some specialized implementation? |
| 01:27.34 | foxlit | I didn't actually check; but yes, it is actually a macro. |
| 01:29.13 | Shirik | so _x264_encoder_open_80 may be the root implementation |
| 01:29.26 | foxlit | Indeed; it does actually expand to that. |
| 01:29.28 | Shirik | it would also explain the leading underscore, which is typical of "hidden details" |
| 01:29.48 | foxlit | without the underscore, though. |
| 01:29.54 | Shirik | ok that's reasonable too |
| 01:29.57 | foxlit | [ran it through gcc -E] |
| 01:30.03 | Shirik | some C compilers toss an underscore at the beginning |
| 01:30.09 | Shirik | I don't know which ones do and which don't |
| 01:39.04 | Jerub | does anyone here twitter? |
| 01:39.26 | Lopeppeppy | when I must |
| 01:40.33 | *** join/#wowuidev KarlKFI (n=KarlKFI@ip70-181-89-32.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 01:40.48 | *** join/#wowuidev Tuller (n=muffins@pool-72-84-246-12.rcmdva.fios.verizon.net) |
| 01:43.26 | *** join/#wowuidev Aqua (n=Aquavett@74-137-180-76.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 01:43.39 | Thunder_Child | hell no |
| 01:44.24 | Shirik | I refuse to twit |
| 01:44.27 | Shirik | or be a twat |
| 01:44.30 | *** join/#wowuidev Funkeh` (n=funk@82.111.117.38) |
| 01:44.32 | Thunder_Child | you are a twit |
| 01:44.54 | Shirik | okbye |
| 01:45.16 | Thunder_Child | do you know what a twit is? |
| 01:55.49 | foxlit | hey, new FMAB opening theme. |
| 01:55.57 | Nechckn | Always used it as sort of an Air-head, Thunder_Child |
| 01:56.11 | foxlit | Need to do something about encoder settings, though, this quality is pathetic. |
| 01:56.14 | Nechckn | Although the cool kids likely have something New! |
| 01:56.49 | Thunder_Child | Nechckn: no, thats about how i use it. something along the lines of 'idiot', but with humor |
| 01:57.27 | Nechckn | I always thought it was a very odd name for any site, tbh... |
| 01:57.37 | Nechckn | Some marketing genious thinks otherwise, apparently. |
| 02:00.38 | *** join/#wowuidev p3lim (n=Miranda@85.108.34.95.customer.cdi.no) |
| 02:01.51 | *** join/#wowuidev Hautian (n=chatzill@67.204.217.247) |
| 02:09.35 | Adys | wtb css namespaces |
| 02:11.40 | Adys | http://garfieldminusgarfield.net/post/332758432/ |
| 02:15.13 | WobWork | Adys: that's one strip that has had -nothing- changed by removing garfield |
| 02:18.22 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: here http://insidemovies.moviefone.com/2010/01/08/2010-movie-preview/ |
| 02:19.33 | foxlit | hey, How to Train Your Dragon |
| 02:19.42 | foxlit | Forgot about that, trailer looked entertaining |
| 02:20.37 | foxlit | Despicable Me, maybe. |
| 02:20.41 | foxlit | And Alice. |
| 02:21.00 | Thunder_Child | i win |
| 02:21.12 | foxlit | We're up to three things worth watching :) |
| 02:21.36 | Thunder_Child | since you said 0, i call that a win |
| 02:22.06 | foxlit | Fair enough :) |
| 02:22.25 | cbreak | Tron. |
| 02:22.32 | Lopeppeppy | Who wants to go see Daybreakers with me? |
| 02:22.48 | Nechckn | Come to DC, Lopeppeppy! |
| 02:23.05 | Nechckn | It is not all that far... ;-) |
| 02:24.14 | Lopeppeppy | It's not, really, and it is a long weekend.... |
| 02:24.36 | Lopeppeppy | but if I could leave my Rosie alone, I'd be going to Boston, so I think I'm stuck watching it around here, Nechckn! |
| 02:25.28 | Nechckn | bah.. foiled by the pet! |
| 02:25.42 | Nechckn | shakes a fist in Rosie's general direction. |
| 02:25.42 | Thunder_Child | Nechckn: go there... |
| 02:25.57 | tem | fml |
| 02:25.59 | cbreak | if it wasn't for those kids and that meddling dog... |
| 02:26.03 | *** join/#wowuidev alestane (n=Nevin@c-66-30-209-28.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 02:26.03 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v alestane] by ChanServ |
| 02:26.11 | Nechckn | exactly, cbreak |
| 02:26.12 | tem | when the 1 hander I want finally drops our shaman healer has decided to go enh |
| 02:26.18 | tem | so I have to pass because her enh gear is terrible |
| 02:26.32 | Nechckn | yikes... that blows, tekkub |
| 02:26.35 | Nechckn | tem, even |
| 02:26.56 | cbreak | we demote spec/main changers to trialists |
| 02:27.00 | Nechckn | considers just how bad that sounds out of context. |
| 02:27.01 | WobWork | .. yeah |
| 02:27.04 | tem | well |
| 02:27.15 | tem | she decided to do it because we were short a dps |
| 02:27.22 | tem | it's not permanent |
| 02:27.24 | WobWork | If I swapped to enh from resto/ele, I'd still gear up from badges first |
| 02:27.29 | tem | she'll probably never use it again after tonight |
| 02:27.36 | WobWork | which makes it worse =P |
| 02:27.42 | Nechckn | that totally sucks, then |
| 02:27.45 | cbreak | just make her trade it to you |
| 02:27.49 | Nechckn | completely.. |
| 02:27.49 | cbreak | before the 2 hours are up |
| 02:27.54 | WobWork | oo. truedat |
| 02:27.55 | tem | it's got a socket |
| 02:27.56 | Nechckn | Ah.. there you go |
| 02:27.59 | tem | so |
| 02:28.02 | WobWork | and she gemmed it?! |
| 02:28.02 | tem | it'll be bound |
| 02:28.07 | Nechckn | don't let her socket it! |
| 02:28.26 | Nechckn | one piece of gear missing a gem should be fine for one run |
| 02:28.28 | WobWork | it only binds when something is put into the socket |
| 02:28.28 | *** join/#wowuidev Pneu (n=WiN@pneumatus.plus.com) |
| 02:28.54 | *** join/#wowuidev Hjalte (n=chatzill@cpe.ge-0-2-0-835.arcnqu2.customer.tele.dk) |
| 02:29.10 | Nechckn | I'd really put it out there, tem, that is totally uncool - I can understand being agreeable, but that is pushing it. |
| 02:29.32 | WobWork | unless she spent dkp on it or something |
| 02:30.18 | Lopeppeppy | huggles tem. |
| 02:31.13 | alestane | huggles Lopeppeppy. I forgot before! |
| 02:31.21 | Lopeppeppy | You rememberated. |
| 02:33.39 | tem | Nechckn, shrug |
| 02:34.05 | tem | I may never go dw frost anyway |
| 02:34.10 | tem | I just want the weapons so I have the option |
| 02:34.22 | tem | it's a HUGE threat boost |
| 02:34.47 | Nechckn | I'd still at least ask her if a trade was possible |
| 02:35.04 | Nechckn | The worst case would be she'd end up with it in inventory after... |
| 02:35.11 | Nechckn | just like now. =) |
| 02:36.15 | kdtresh | what's the easiest way to set r/g/b for part of a print("text") command? |
| 02:36.19 | kdtresh | or is there one? |
| 02:37.39 | alestane | "|cCC2222FFSome red text|rsome other text" IIRC. |
| 02:38.32 | kdtresh | so |c######text|r? |
| 02:38.38 | kdtresh | where the ## is hex color? |
| 02:38.55 | alestane | Including alpha. I don't work with it much though. |
| 02:39.02 | Nechckn | sounds correct |
| 02:39.40 | kdtresh | which end is the alpha? |
| 02:40.11 | alestane | Trailing. |
| 02:40.20 | alestane | You may be able to omit it, I forget. |
| 02:40.53 | kdtresh | i just tried |cFF0000Text and it printed the |cFF0000 along with it |
| 02:41.07 | alestane | You can't type it into WoW. |
| 02:41.14 | kdtresh | i'm editing the lua and reloading ui |
| 02:41.25 | kdtresh | it didn't print the |r trailing, but it printed the stuff before |
| 02:41.28 | kdtresh | trying it with a FF |
| 02:41.44 | kdtresh | ok, that worked |
| 02:41.53 | alestane | So, don't omit the alpha. |
| 02:42.02 | kdtresh | "|cFF0000FFText|r printed blue text |
| 02:42.09 | kdtresh | so it looks like alpha is preceding, not trailing |
| 02:42.17 | kdtresh | unless rgb is ordered differently |
| 02:42.46 | kdtresh | unless i'm reading it wrong |
| 02:43.22 | *** join/#wowuidev digmouse (n=chatzill@124.205.157.50) |
| 02:43.29 | kdtresh | "|cFFFF0000Text|r printed red, so it does look alpha comes first |
| 02:43.31 | kdtresh | ty |
| 02:45.04 | *** join/#wowuidev Trela (n=Alexia@76.73.192.175) |
| 02:45.08 | Adys | i dont know why there even is an alpha field anyway |
| 02:45.17 | Adys | it doesnt work |
| 02:46.16 | kdtresh | i just wanted to color it, as long as it works i'm happy ;) |
| 02:46.27 | kdtresh | just going in the default chat frame anyway |
| 02:52.52 | *** join/#wowuidev smcn (i=smcn@c-174-52-39-78.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 02:55.36 | *** join/#wowuidev ckknight_ (n=ckknight@c-71-207-201-84.hsd1.al.comcast.net) |
| 03:11.11 | *** join/#wowuidev Kraps (n=chatzill@ool-44c20717.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 03:18.45 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alw5hs0chj0 |
| 03:19.32 | Nechckn | Okay, for any Lotus fans... IBM/Lotus makes one of these each year. The first 5 mins or so are interesting for any geek types, the rest you likely have to follow/do things with Lotus products - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LSVy1nNZAE |
| 03:20.07 | Nechckn | Sorry.. Ascendant actually make sthem.. but still good! ;-) |
| 03:25.15 | *** join/#wowuidev Iriel (n=Iriel@adsl-71-158-244-138.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 03:25.16 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Iriel] by ChanServ |
| 03:26.43 | Kraps | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/7/12227723371-blizz-doesnt-understand-its-own-mechanics.html |
| 03:31.12 | Kraps | are there US versions of these posts? http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=12227743345&sid=1 |
| 03:31.35 | kd3 | if there's active migrations up |
| 03:32.17 | Kraps | feels like EU has them every month |
| 03:33.07 | Nechckn | Kraps That is mighty handy |
| 03:33.36 | Nechckn | They should have some sort of "reduced cost" transfer, too... for those that they are considering doing FCM on soon. |
| 03:37.01 | Nechckn | BTW, I usually point folks to Warcraftrealms when they are considering a transfer - anyone know how their data stacks up to what is actually happening on the server(s)? |
| 03:39.00 | Nechckn | I need a home for my Tauren Shaman, so any suggestions would be appreciated. I have guys on velen and uldaman and both are fairly "sparse" to begin with. |
| 03:39.12 | *** join/#wowuidev Antiarc (n=Antiarc@ip70-190-192-186.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 03:39.40 | Nechckn | just a fairly active player base is all I am looking to find... =) |
| 03:41.58 | WobWork | EU or US? |
| 03:42.06 | Nechckn | Sorry... US |
| 03:42.21 | WobWork | I'm on Proudmoore atm |
| 03:42.35 | WobWork | TOG has a pretty active playerbase |
| 03:42.40 | Nechckn | Oh.. right. That is fairly busy Horde side, right? |
| 03:42.43 | WobWork | although it gets quiet Aussie side |
| 03:42.48 | WobWork | yeah |
| 03:42.52 | Nechckn | I have an alliance dude on PM and it is packed |
| 03:42.55 | WobWork | although we're massively outnumbered by alliance |
| 03:43.20 | WobWork | I think it's like 7:3 ish =P |
| 03:43.23 | *** join/#wowuidev Pneumatus (n=WiN@unaffiliated/pneumatus) |
| 03:43.32 | Nechckn | Well, that is okay, right now the PVP server he is on is totally Sucking... I cannot even find folks to help with anything, so PVE is fine if unbalanced |
| 03:43.32 | WobWork | so come to horde, just don't expect to FTH easily =) |
| 03:43.41 | Nechckn | lol |
| 03:43.55 | WobWork | You can join The Older Gamers guilds if you're over 25 |
| 03:44.41 | Nechckn | PM Alliance is like a pan-guild, guild that is amazing, Kandoko got me in his guild and into that.. they rock. |
| 03:44.59 | Nechckn | But.. sure, I definitely meet that criteria heheheh |
| 03:45.09 | WobWork | I'd say the biggest panguild in PM horde is undoubtedly Taint |
| 03:45.17 | Nechckn | I'm not even a total douche.. though I could pretend, if need be. |
| 03:45.32 | WobWork | Nechckn: that sort of thing always gets found out =( |
| 03:45.41 | WobWork | it's hard to maintain doucheness over a long period of time |
| 03:45.46 | WobWork | unless you're naturally gifted |
| 03:45.48 | Nechckn | ture |
| 03:45.55 | Nechckn | bah.. True, even. |
| 03:45.56 | Kandoko | http://pma.guildlaunch.com/index.php?sub_domain=pma&gid= |
| 03:46.30 | Nechckn | Ah.. there we go. ty for the linky, Kandoko =) |
| 03:49.09 | Kandoko | WobWork: you may be outnumbered, but from my pvp experience you definitely out skill us poor aliance saps in pvp |
| 03:49.55 | WobWork | Kandoko: we have to =) Too much time in WG with tenacity over NINE THOUSAND |
| 03:52.15 | Kandoko | :) But I know those Horde rogues LOVE the Adrenalin rush, evasion, Spam Fan of Knives kills with that buff |
| 03:52.27 | Kandoko | before its nerf |
| 03:52.58 | WobWork | only ever heals in pvp |
| 03:53.03 | WobWork | I'm terrible with actual dps |
| 03:53.47 | Kandoko | used to be a tank in pvp classic, but I retired my priest when BC came out |
| 03:54.12 | *** join/#wowuidev taleden (n=alex@user-38q41i6.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 03:54.21 | Nechckn | Poor Kandoka! |
| 03:55.44 | Kandoko | :P blizzard was just so farking clueless on where they were going with the class at the time. >.< Fangtooth its all good posts still irritate me when I think of em |
| 03:56.45 | *** join/#wowuidev freite (n=freite@c83-250-31-85.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 03:57.18 | *** join/#wowuidev pompy (n=Mike@c-68-38-45-3.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 04:00.21 | Nechckn | I keep wanting to level a priest.. but the darn Druids keep enticing me! |
| 04:00.36 | Jerub | druids are .. interesting. |
| 04:01.04 | Nechckn | I plan to have another when the silly wolfmen come along, too. |
| 04:01.04 | Jerub | they're a healer, a rogue a warrior and a ranged dps caster, but they don't have the full utility of any of those classes. |
| 04:01.36 | Nechckn | I'm fairly casual, so it really fits the bill. Sneaking around is ever so fun |
| 04:01.37 | *** join/#wowuidev Kandoko1 (n=Kandoko@adsl-068-159-119-207.sip.gsp.bellsouth.net) |
| 04:01.41 | Nechckn | when needed. |
| 04:03.28 | Jerub | my only 80 is a druid |
| 04:03.30 | Jerub | and i can't stop playing him |
| 04:03.37 | Jerub | (bear/tree at the moment) |
| 04:07.05 | Nechckn | mine are both relative babies but things like AV are awesome with them, same with soloing |
| 04:08.31 | *** part/#wowuidev alestane (n=Nevin@c-66-30-209-28.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 04:10.50 | Shirik | yay, finished MW2 |
| 04:13.33 | WobWork | I really want to play a disc priest |
| 04:14.00 | Shirik | canadaackis is online |
| 04:14.08 | Nechckn | I have one that I started, but he is sort of on hold atm. Fun, though, WobWork |
| 04:14.13 | Nechckn | At least I thought he was |
| 04:14.14 | WobWork | but I already have a 70 one =( |
| 04:14.17 | WobWork | alliance side |
| 04:14.20 | WobWork | on a differents server |
| 04:14.33 | Nechckn | Ahh... |
| 04:14.40 | Nechckn | gotcha |
| 04:14.56 | WobWork | if it were cheaper, I'd bring along my mage as well |
| 04:15.00 | WobWork | (and rogue) |
| 04:15.37 | WobWork | I can't get into warlocking =( |
| 04:15.43 | WobWork | it just doesn't grab me |
| 04:17.45 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 04:18.00 | *** join/#wowuidev Pneu (n=WiN@pneumatus.plus.com) |
| 04:19.42 | Torhal | WobWork: How about battlelocking? |
| 04:19.45 | Torhal | ducks. |
| 04:22.09 | kdtresh | peacelocking? |
| 04:22.28 | Shirik | Nechckn, I blame you |
| 04:23.17 | Nechckn | Most people usually do, Shirik. |
| 04:23.25 | Nechckn | =P |
| 04:26.37 | Jerub | Nechckn: what level are you babies? |
| 04:27.10 | Nechckn | Oh... low... the Tauren just turned 40 and the NElf is... 68 or so |
| 04:27.33 | Jerub | Nechckn: oooh, nearly 70. that's when kitty becomes sufficiently interesting. |
| 04:27.37 | Nechckn | I have a bunch of toons, most in their 60s, but I keep going back to theDruid. |
| 04:27.52 | Nechckn | Druids, I guess hehehe |
| 04:28.16 | Nechckn | Well, I am a big AV player, so I have a bunch that get stuck in there and rarely come out! |
| 04:28.22 | Adys | !api raid |
| 04:28.22 | lua_bot | Found 31 possible matches for 'raid'. Please be more specific |
| 04:28.26 | Adys | !api raidicon |
| 04:28.27 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'raidicon'. |
| 04:28.42 | Nechckn | ouch, lua_bot is hating on you today, Adys |
| 04:29.03 | Adys | what are the raid icons called in the api? |
| 04:29.12 | Adys | !api setraid |
| 04:29.13 | lua_bot | Found 4 possible results for 'setraid': SetRaidDifficulty, SetRaidSubgroup, SetRaidRosterSelection, SetRaidTarget |
| 04:33.14 | Nechckn | raidicon was my guess, honestly... |
| 04:40.00 | *** join/#wowuidev Sesshu| (n=Sesshu@ip-64-18.travedsl.de) |
| 04:45.09 | kd3 | yay. we're nearly out of the sub-freezing weather |
| 04:45.37 | kd3 | wonders how long it's going to take some of the perennially-in-shade parts of roads to thaw |
| 04:47.10 | kdtresh | kd3: we're expecting our shady corners to stay icy until june |
| 04:50.08 | *** join/#wowuidev sylvanaar (n=sylvanaa@unaffiliated/sylvanaar) |
| 04:50.50 | *** join/#wowuidev Cairenn (n=Cairenn@MMOI/Administratrix/Cairenn) |
| 04:50.50 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 05:01.30 | Antiarc | It was 72 today. |
| 05:03.04 | Jerub | you know, in brisbane, cold is 10 degrees celsius. |
| 05:03.11 | kdtresh | what's the easiest way to return a substring between brackets? |
| 05:03.27 | kdtresh | i.e. xxxxx[string]xxxx returns "string" |
| 05:03.54 | *** join/#wowuidev Thelyna (n=burp@219-89-245-92.adsl.xtra.co.nz) |
| 05:04.15 | kdtresh | (in lua) |
| 05:04.34 | tem | so new armory is very pretty |
| 05:05.01 | kd3 | still sees the maint message |
| 05:06.45 | Kraps | ^ |
| 05:06.47 | tem | kd3, it's down now aparently |
| 05:06.49 | tem | it was up earlier |
| 05:07.56 | *** part/#wowuidev Seerah|away (n=Ryan@c-76-107-191-65.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 05:17.03 | *** join/#wowuidev Cairenn1 (n=Cairenn@CPE001217452e29-CM00194757bc24.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 05:17.27 | Kraps | Mass Effect 2 Reviews |
| 05:17.29 | Kraps | Mass Effect 2 Official Xbox Magazine ** 9.5 / 10 Feb 1, 2010 |
| 05:17.34 | *** join/#wowuidev Thelyna (n=burp@219-89-245-92.adsl.xtra.co.nz) |
| 05:17.35 | Shirik | Kraps |
| 05:17.44 | Kraps | IN THE FUTURE |
| 05:17.46 | Shirik | vandals are showing some intelligence o.o |
| 05:17.50 | Shirik | http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Shirik/Userboxes&diff=337743028&oldid=337740323 |
| 05:17.57 | Dagmar | Wow |
| 05:18.03 | Shirik | he vandalized my userpage and then decided to go off and update my count for me |
| 05:18.19 | Kraps | that is awesome |
| 05:18.35 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Cairenn] by ChanServ |
| 05:18.37 | Dagmar | The new armory is awesome, except maybe for the "cue ball eyes" thing |
| 05:18.46 | Dagmar | I can live with it |
| 05:19.06 | Kraps | OH SWEET |
| 05:19.39 | Dagmar | Oh MAN the full screen mode ROCKS |
| 05:19.54 | *** join/#wowuidev mojosdojo_ (n=gdbzet26@p4FEFE818.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 05:19.58 | Dagmar | Okay that's officially been upgraded to "pimptacular" |
| 05:20.01 | Jerub | looks |
| 05:20.08 | Jerub | if it hasn't broken quickarmory, i'll be satisfied. |
| 05:20.44 | kd3 | and they're actually using edgesuite now for something other than patch mirroring |
| 05:20.49 | kd3 | gasps |
| 05:20.57 | Jerub | ... this is fucking fantastic. |
| 05:21.10 | Jerub | how do i get this rss feed on my blog |
| 05:21.18 | Kraps | Dagmar: DIF YOU SEE THAT WHIRLWINd |
| 05:21.22 | Jerub | it shows items you get |
| 05:21.31 | Jerub | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-feed.xml?r=Dath%27Remar&cn=Brandi |
| 05:22.49 | Dagmar | Yeah I was just looking at the RSS icon and trying not to squeal |
| 05:23.03 | Dagmar | People will be able to use a PHP hack to aggregate their guild's activity |
| 05:23.34 | Jerub | it even shows epics you get by buying them |
| 05:23.40 | Dagmar | Kraps: What whirlwind? |
| 05:23.57 | Dagmar | ...or are you just quoting forum trolls or something that I'm not catching onto? |
| 05:24.24 | Jerub | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-feed.xml?r=Dath%27Remar&cn=Oldgreyeyes <<- a friends new 80 |
| 05:24.35 | Kraps | Dagmar: maybe because i logged as fury but i can get a WW animation |
| 05:24.47 | Dagmar | Oh... |
| 05:24.54 | Jerub | it's weird tho |
| 05:24.55 | kd3 | oh geez, the eyes need work |
| 05:25.02 | Dagmar | Yeah "cue ball eyes" |
| 05:25.06 | Jerub | it's saying that i only just completed the northren stew ocmpontent of northrend gorument |
| 05:25.08 | Dagmar | But they're so small it's hard to tell anyway |
| 05:26.00 | Jerub | lolbug |
| 05:26.01 | Jerub | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Dath%27Remar&cn=Brandi&gn=Cruor+Sacramentum |
| 05:26.11 | Jerub | go to 'gear list' then hover over the enchant on lightborn spire. |
| 05:27.08 | *** join/#wowuidev Aqua (n=Aquavett@74-137-178-190.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 05:29.12 | Jerub | zzOLDEnchant |
| 05:29.39 | Jerub | also, on my gloves: "zzOLDEnchant Weapon - Greater Agility" |
| 05:29.46 | kd3 | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Medivh&n=Kaydeethree |
| 05:29.50 | kd3 | likes his new pose |
| 05:31.13 | Jerub | ... we have 64 80s in our guild. |
| 05:31.15 | Jerub | wow. |
| 05:31.33 | Kraps | http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Stormreaver&cn=Ertis&gn=Stormreavers+Army |
| 05:33.33 | Jerub | Kraps: you've done a lot of H UK runs |
| 05:33.53 | Kraps | randoms /shrug |
| 05:34.14 | Kraps | night |
| 05:37.05 | Corrodias | lmao |
| 05:37.08 | Corrodias | Greetings! dear players |
| 05:37.16 | Corrodias | Today, we are do all activities of the World of Warcraft accounts a routine check. |
| 05:37.17 | Corrodias | We have evidence to show that your account transactions involved in the disputed. |
| 05:38.25 | Dagmar | This email very legitimate. Have no fears that this is to be fishing email. |
| 05:38.50 | Dagmar | Someone set us up the keylogger. |
| 05:39.21 | Corrodias | they sent an ncsoft one too. cute. |
| 05:39.50 | Dagmar | I'd _let_ them have the ncsoft account |
| 05:40.19 | kdtresh | i hate it when someone have evidence to show that my account transactions involved in the disputed |
| 05:42.00 | Dagmar | I'm just wondering why it is these people don't seem to realize that it's kinda obvious the mail is fake if you can barely speak English |
| 05:42.58 | Corrodias | maybe they can trick somebody who panics |
| 05:43.12 | Corrodias | or people who don't know the language either |
| 05:43.37 | kd3 | oh whoops |
| 05:43.41 | kd3 | http://www.wowarmory.com/item-info.xml?i=42349 |
| 05:44.24 | Jerub | why is it that third party databases have less shit data than blizz themselves? |
| 05:44.51 | Jerub | also, weird. |
| 05:45.12 | Jerub | that's a 252 dagger. does that make it 1 level better than my shinynew 251 dagger? |
| 05:45.37 | Dagmar | POssibly more since they didn't have to spend any item points giving it a name |
| 06:03.52 | Antiarc | BTW |
| 06:03.55 | Antiarc | PallyPower must die. |
| 06:03.55 | Antiarc | http://i.imgur.com/MCyDA.jpg |
| 06:03.57 | Jerub | for a fuzzy bear tank, is agility or expertise better for glove enchant? |
| 06:04.39 | Jerub | Antiarc: that just osunds like it's got bugs |
| 06:04.43 | Jerub | not that it needs to die. |
| 06:04.47 | ccox | Blizzard's Flash detector on the armory is busted |
| 06:04.50 | Jerub | Antiarc: what's your ui addon btw? |
| 06:04.55 | ccox | Says I don't have Flash 9 or later. |
| 06:05.06 | ccox | I have Flash 10, and it works quite well. |
| 06:05.30 | Antiarc | Jerub: What, the pally one? Blessed |
| 06:05.56 | Jerub | it looks quite nice |
| 06:06.54 | Antiarc | Oh, the UI in general |
| 06:07.01 | Antiarc | Just a custom setup |
| 06:07.37 | Jerub | oh, alright. |
| 06:14.05 | ccox | Myth: ginger is a wonder drug for nausea |
| 06:14.09 | ccox | Status: confirmed |
| 06:15.02 | *** join/#wowuidev mascondante (n=kvirc@75-105-27-48.cust.wildblue.net) |
| 06:17.16 | ccox | tardis |
| 06:17.23 | ccox | wrong channel, sorry |
| 06:24.44 | Shirik | 01/13/10 10/SP Tuition 10,245.00 |
| 06:24.45 | Shirik | 01/13/10 10/SP Mandatory Fees 1,150.00 |
| 06:24.57 | Shirik | what is this crap; don't you think they could at least tell you what the "fees" were? |
| 06:25.37 | ccox | hmm "find an upgrade |
| 06:25.45 | ccox | " seems to be missing from the new armory |
| 06:27.26 | *** join/#wowuidev Nechckn (n=N@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Admin/Nechckn) |
| 06:27.26 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Nechckn] by ChanServ |
| 06:27.52 | *** join/#wowuidev Nechckn (n=N@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Admin/Nechckn) |
| 06:27.52 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Nechckn] by ChanServ |
| 06:30.13 | Dagmar | Shirik: Dude, it's college. "Fees" are mandatory. Doesn't really matter what they're for anymore. They know you'll pay 'em anyway |
| 06:30.29 | Shirik | they can just put any number there |
| 06:30.39 | Shirik | and be like "here pay this" |
| 06:31.15 | Dagmar | You got it. |
| 06:32.02 | ccox | $1000 - bend over feed |
| 06:32.10 | ccox | $150 - lube |
| 06:32.14 | Antiarc | "We aren't going to give you your diploma unless you pay us $500,000 in small-denomination unmarked bills" |
| 06:32.17 | ccox | s/feed/fee/ |
| 06:36.21 | Nechckn | After all is said and done, that is likely a good estimate, Antiarc |
| 06:36.43 | Nechckn | Although they usually take larger bills, too, since they are "legitimate". |
| 06:37.56 | *** join/#wowuidev Pneumatus (n=WiN@unaffiliated/pneumatus) |
| 06:43.00 | *** join/#wowuidev Colin__T (n=ColinT@69-11-97-130.regn.static.sasknet.sk.ca) |
| 06:44.27 | Jerub | I just got an android phone |
| 06:44.34 | Jerub | does anyone know if there's a battle.net authetnicator for it? |
| 06:44.45 | Arrowmaster | no |
| 06:46.17 | Jerub | it doesn't exist? |
| 06:46.18 | Jerub | crap |
| 06:46.39 | Jerub | ah, htc doesn't seem supported at all |
| 06:46.58 | Nechckn | yeah.. nothing *yet* |
| 06:47.34 | Nechckn | I got one for Christmas, it is pretty neato, very comparable to the iPhone and better than most others around, imnsho |
| 06:48.07 | Jerub | i heard a rumor that you can roll your own authenticator, is that true? |
| 06:48.24 | Jerub | i.e. it's a known key system and you can just create your own and set it up... |
| 06:48.24 | Nechckn | I highly doubt it |
| 06:48.38 | Jerub | it'd be trivial to do... |
| 06:48.53 | Nechckn | if you knew the base key, sure |
| 06:48.57 | *** join/#wowuidev WobWork (n=Wobwork@136.136.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) |
| 06:49.05 | Jerub | you create one. |
| 06:49.36 | Nechckn | But it would never match up... ?? |
| 06:49.48 | Nechckn | Or do you mean one for your own use for other things? |
| 06:49.55 | Nechckn | That is surely possible |
| 06:49.58 | WobWork | ? |
| 06:50.25 | Jerub | Nechckn: the idea is that you generate a key and communicate that with blizzard. it doesn't require that you have any kind of local secret to begin with |
| 06:50.25 | Nechckn | talking authentication, WobWork |
| 06:50.26 | Arrowmaster | there is likely a secret half, otherwise all you would have to do is get somebodys authincator for a few seconds and you could write down the number on the back and clone it |
| 06:50.40 | Jerub | the secret half is generated at the time you activate the authenticator on your mobile the first time. |
| 06:50.57 | Jerub | the public half is sent to bliz (that's the "synchronisation" step) |
| 06:51.29 | Jerub | ripping open the java app on the phones should be trivial too |
| 06:51.29 | Arrowmaster | i ment something like a hash salt |
| 06:51.30 | Nechckn | But you would need for them to agree to accept your key via key exchange, first. |
| 06:52.04 | Arrowmaster | there is no key exchange, you just give them the short code on the back of the authincator |
| 06:52.05 | ZorbaTHut | it would certainly be theoretically possible to duplicate the authenticator software, though I know of nobody who's done so yet. |
| 06:52.27 | Jerub | Arrowmaster: uh, that's only for the keychain ones, i'm talking about the mobile phone version |
| 06:52.41 | Jerub | tempting to do so. |
| 06:52.48 | Jerub | doesn't want to have to carry two mobile phones. |
| 06:52.54 | ZorbaTHut | I mean, worst theoretical case, you write an iphone emulator and run it on your android phone and install the iphone authenticator software on the emulator and tada you have it running on the android |
| 06:53.02 | ZorbaTHut | there are probably easier ways ;) |
| 06:53.10 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: i have it on my S40 series nokia |
| 06:53.20 | Jerub | probably simpler, I think it's java. |
| 06:53.52 | *** join/#wowuidev fathom (i=fathom@morpheus.net) |
| 06:54.08 | Nechckn | I thought you were talking about using your own key, that you generated, then using it - to be really "home grown" |
| 06:54.16 | Nechckn | Like self-signed keys |
| 06:54.38 | ZorbaTHut | well, depending on how the iphone authenticator works, that might be somewhat possible. but not a lot of reason to do so. |
| 06:54.45 | Nechckn | As for their s/w - it is likely not so simple or it would be all over the place. |
| 06:55.06 | ZorbaTHut | it *is* all over the place, there are many, many implementations of similar dongles |
| 06:55.37 | ZorbaTHut | nobody's bothered untangling exactly how the blizzard version works, but that doesn't imply that the blizzard version is complicated, just that either nobody's gone to the bother or it's heavily obfuscated. |
| 06:55.44 | Nechckn | um.. yes, authentication is all over the place, but not "theirs" |
| 06:55.53 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, nobody cares :P |
| 07:07.27 | ZorbaTHut | there's basically a bog-standard conventional way of doing stuff like this, with a few minor variations and implementation details. it'd basically come down to ripping apart the app to extract whatever magic numbers they might be using and to do things in the appropriate order. |
| 07:13.07 | *** join/#wowuidev Pneumatus (n=WiN@unaffiliated/pneumatus) |
| 07:27.58 | *** join/#wowuidev Elkano (n=elkano@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Elkano) |
| 07:29.13 | WobWork | ZorbaTHut: you mean extracting the magic smoke? |
| 07:32.45 | ZorbaTHut | pretty much, yes, but with a disassembler or the like ;) |
| 07:48.24 | *** join/#wowuidev Pneu (n=WiN@pneumatus.plus.com) |
| 07:51.03 | *** join/#wowuidev zenzio (n=zenzio__@ti131310a340-0018.bb.online.no) |
| 07:53.29 | Cairenn | Does anyone in here live in England? |
| 07:54.54 | zenzio | think there are a few, not sure if they'd be awake/present right now |
| 07:54.55 | zenzio | how so? |
| 07:55.28 | Arrowmaster | they should be waking up soon |
| 07:55.35 | Cairenn | Just need to talk to people currently living there |
| 07:55.38 | Cairenn | Arrowmaster: nod |
| 07:55.42 | wereHamster | 8am in the uk.. |
| 07:55.44 | zenzio | waking up, yes; but not necessarily present here |
| 07:55.45 | Cairenn | nod |
| 07:55.59 | Cairenn | just my first ping at it :) |
| 07:56.26 | *** join/#wowuidev cyndis (i=cyndis@82.128.138.2) |
| 07:56.47 | zenzio | you planning a move? ;-o |
| 07:56.52 | Cairenn | no |
| 07:56.58 | Cairenn | well, not for myself |
| 07:57.01 | zenzio | damn, there goes that hope |
| 08:00.32 | *** join/#wowuidev Srosh (n=Srosh@c210203.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 08:02.10 | *** join/#wowuidev Repo (n=supybot@repos.curseforge.net) |
| 08:02.41 | wereHamster | I hate sites that don't provide a way to give the webmaster feedback (for example because the site doesn't work etc) ... |
| 08:02.53 | ccox | wereHamster: yep |
| 08:02.58 | Cairenn | indeed |
| 08:03.07 | ccox | they make you go searching so you can just report a bug... |
| 08:03.10 | wereHamster | (most blizzard sites...) |
| 08:03.34 | zenzio | ah, the good old days of webmaster@... |
| 08:03.48 | zenzio | which usually went unread of course |
| 08:05.19 | ccox | ah, the good old days, when it was easiest to root the server and fix the bug yourself... |
| 08:06.23 | zenzio | http://icanhascheezburger.com/2010/01/13/funny-pictures-remoov-ur-hand/ |
| 08:07.49 | *** join/#wowuidev mojosdojo (n=gdbzet26@p4FEFE818.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 08:10.28 | *** join/#wowuidev Pneumatus (n=WiN@unaffiliated/pneumatus) |
| 08:10.34 | *** join/#wowuidev Repo (n=supybot@repos.curseforge.net) |
| 08:12.51 | *** join/#wowuidev pompy1 (n=Mike@c-68-38-45-3.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 08:13.20 | Torhal | Cat mania! http://www.gadling.com/2010/01/13/10-ways-your-cat-will-punish-you-for-traveling/ |
| 08:24.53 | *** join/#wowuidev Caleb| (n=caleb@dsl4E5C0709.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 08:39.01 | *** join/#wowuidev augustl (n=augustl@62.70.2.252) |
| 08:40.15 | *** join/#wowuidev brykrys (n=chatzill@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Dev/Brykrys) |
| 08:43.53 | *** join/#wowuidev Vilkku (n=Vilkku@dsl-tkubrasgw1-ffc7c100-46.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 08:45.39 | *** join/#wowuidev Wobin (n=Wobin@124-170-157-85.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 09:00.32 | Wobin | I'm glad we have people like Pat Robertson to make sure we know that "Haiti had it coming due to being cursed from their Pact with the Devil" |
| 09:02.01 | Nechckn | omg... he is such a douche bag |
| 09:02.29 | Nechckn | and like the poster boy for what is "wrong with America" as "they" always like to point and say. =) |
| 09:02.50 | *** join/#wowuidev Kalroth (n=kalroth@0x573f1066.cpe.ge-1-1-0-1101.hjnqu1.customer.tele.dk) |
| 09:03.02 | Nechckn | That actually got me angry. |
| 09:03.25 | Nechckn | It is crap like that, especially when spouted for 8 years that makes others not like the US. |
| 09:03.40 | Nechckn | goes back to killing things |
| 09:06.29 | *** join/#wowuidev Pneu (n=WiN@pneumatus.plus.com) |
| 09:14.01 | *** join/#wowuidev Schnaks (n=Schnaks@p5486E8FB.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 09:18.59 | Wobin | http://www.leasticoulddo.com/comics/20100114.gif |
| 09:20.09 | *** join/#wowuidev Kaso (n=Kaso@studio.fuzemedia.co.uk) |
| 09:41.21 | Fisker | fuck you zenzelezz |
| 09:41.56 | Torhal | Fisker: He has a headache. |
| 09:42.16 | zenzio | nonsense, I'm at work |
| 09:42.26 | zenzio | and it's not my fault jnwhiteh stole your Nexus |
| 09:44.03 | *** join/#wowuidev sioraiocht (n=tomh@unaffiliated/sioraiocht) |
| 09:44.06 | Wobin | wait |
| 09:44.12 | Wobin | zenzio is zenzelezz? |
| 09:44.16 | zenzio | yes |
| 09:44.20 | Wobin | crazy |
| 09:44.50 | Torhal | Wobin: You think that's crazy? Fisker is the Eggman. |
| 09:45.00 | Wobin | I thought he was the Scatman |
| 09:45.07 | Wobin | (bee dup dup dudup doo...) |
| 09:45.10 | Torhal | Oh...yeah... |
| 09:49.58 | Fisker | i hate you zenzelezz |
| 09:50.01 | Nechckn | Wobin is the Walrus |
| 09:50.01 | Fisker | also you zenzio |
| 09:50.02 | *** join/#wowuidev EthanCentaurai (n=ethan@78.149.131.191) |
| 09:50.13 | Nechckn | Coo coo cachoo |
| 09:50.47 | Wobin | Well.. the time has come, to talk of many things |
| 09:50.54 | Wobin | Of shoes, and ships, and sealing wax |
| 09:50.59 | Wobin | of cabbages and kings! |
| 09:51.07 | Wobin | and why the sea is boiling hot |
| 09:51.13 | Wobin | and whether fisker sings. |
| 09:51.22 | Gnarfoz | beep |
| 09:51.38 | Gnarfoz | Mumble has positional audio support for WoW... I wonder how they do it and if it's safe :o |
| 09:53.40 | Wobin | hm, I like the new armoury |
| 09:54.01 | *** join/#wowuidev Keias (n=bleh@pool-72-86-106-233.aubnin.fios.verizon.net) |
| 09:54.18 | Kalroth | I bet you like Fisker too |
| 09:54.32 | Wobin | Fisker grows on you |
| 09:54.36 | Wobin | like a fungus |
| 09:54.40 | Gnarfoz | yes, like a parasite |
| 09:54.41 | Gnarfoz | meh, beaten |
| 09:54.57 | Kalroth | You wouldnt |
| 09:55.15 | Gnarfoz | beat fisker? certainly |
| 09:55.51 | Nechckn | Tweak WoW allows you to change the sound position, too.. think it is just a CVAR value, Gnarfoz |
| 09:56.01 | Nechckn | Unless I'm not understanding what you mean |
| 09:57.38 | Fisker | you can't Gnarfoz |
| 09:57.42 | Wobin | Isle of Conquest isn't considered a battleground? |
| 09:58.29 | Gnarfoz | Nechckn: Tweak WoW? |
| 09:58.50 | Gnarfoz | and a cvar should be easy to confirm^^ |
| 09:58.54 | Gnarfoz | !api sound |
| 09:58.54 | lua_bot | Found 18 possible matches for 'sound'. Please be more specific |
| 09:58.58 | Gnarfoz | meh |
| 09:59.20 | *** join/#wowuidev pompy (n=Mike@c-68-38-45-3.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 09:59.31 | Fisker | push it to the limit Wobin |
| 10:00.09 | Gnarfoz | !api Sound_ListenerAtCharacter |
| 10:00.10 | lua_bot | Could not find a match for 'Sound_ListenerAtCharacter'. |
| 10:00.29 | Nechckn | http://www.wowinterface.com/downloads/info13562-TweakWoW.html under sound subsection |
| 10:01.07 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRVNVjFny-w&feature=player_embedded |
| 10:01.11 | Gnarfoz | if it changes that cvar, that's just for "does the sound you hear sound like you are where your character is or where your camera is" |
| 10:01.34 | Gnarfoz | yeah, that's something else |
| 10:02.28 | Gnarfoz | positional audio in this case is: Mumble can (if it has the necessary data) place speakers in virutal 3d space according to their relative position to your avatar in game |
| 10:02.47 | Nechckn | Oh... goodness |
| 10:02.51 | Nechckn | Yeah, that is different |
| 10:03.12 | Gnarfoz | meaning, because it's easier to explain: a 3d shooter teammate might sound like his voice is actually coming from in front of me because that's where his avatar is, in game |
| 10:03.55 | Wobin | interesting |
| 10:04.08 | Wobin | I never -actually- connect voices over voice chat with the toon's position |
| 10:04.12 | Gnarfoz | I'm not even sure if this makes much sense to have for WoW, but they have it, and I'm curious as to how much it looks like a malicious (botting or something) program to Warden |
| 10:04.13 | Wobin | because to me, they're two different things |
| 10:04.47 | Nechckn | lol, me either, wobin |
| 10:05.21 | Nechckn | "That's Joe, not MeltFaceWizzard." =) |
| 10:05.54 | *** join/#wowuidev brykrys (n=chatzill@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Dev/Brykrys) |
| 10:15.45 | Nechckn | whoa... wait. Weight stones now affect druid form AP?!??! |
| 10:15.56 | Nechckn | holy carp! |
| 10:16.03 | Nechckn | I r so behind the times |
| 10:16.16 | Gnarfoz | Nechckn: great, too bad you can't use them on weapons over level 70? :D |
| 10:17.02 | *** join/#wowuidev PProvost (n=peter@WoWUIDev/WAU/Admin/Pprovost) |
| 10:17.34 | Nechckn | ilevel or level? |
| 10:17.52 | Nechckn | if you mean level, then I am set, since my current druid is 40 |
| 10:17.53 | Nechckn | =) |
| 10:18.13 | Gnarfoz | probably the "need to be level XY" level |
| 10:18.21 | *** join/#wowuidev Aqua (n=Aquavett@74-137-178-190.dhcp.insightbb.com) |
| 10:18.39 | augustl | I don't recommend coding addons when you're also doing a lot of javascript >< |
| 10:18.43 | Nechckn | ilevel is the restriction, I see that now that I found some of 'em |
| 10:18.44 | Nechckn | nice |
| 10:18.45 | augustl | similarity blurb of fail |
| 10:18.52 | Gnarfoz | holy crap, lol |
| 10:19.05 | Fisker | http://forums.wow-europe.com/thread.html?topicId=12227863585&postId=122265533590&sid=1#1 <-lets hate twitter everyone |
| 10:19.09 | Gnarfoz | Mumble has had WoW positional audio support in various degrees since 2005 |
| 10:19.16 | Gnarfoz | http://mumble.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb.cgi?p=mumble/mumble;a=history;f=plugins/wow/wow.cpp;h=2ed72f6424a13384b0c489dae22a710cc20f00fd;hb=master |
| 10:19.42 | Gnarfoz | (and SF has gitweb while curse stil doesn't... NeT :( ) |
| 10:19.51 | Fisker | hey Gnarfoz |
| 10:19.52 | Fisker | die |
| 10:20.02 | Gnarfoz | I killed you earlier |
| 10:20.08 | Gnarfoz | could you stay dead? |
| 10:21.12 | Fisker | i told you that you can't kill me |
| 10:21.36 | amro | ~kill Fisker |
| 10:21.37 | purl | ACTION shoots a hyper-charged tachyon gun at Fisker |
| 10:21.46 | Gnarfoz | how do you speak when you're dead? |
| 10:21.46 | amro | purl can. |
| 10:25.47 | Wobin | http://www.waffleizer.com/ |
| 10:25.54 | Wobin | Will It Waffle? |
| 10:27.54 | *** join/#wowuidev kraftman (n=kraft_@137.44.87.127) |
| 10:33.39 | olafski | that looks awesome wobin |
| 10:33.46 | olafski | shame I don't have a waffle iron :> |
| 10:33.52 | olafski | .. and am on a diet :< |
| 10:47.06 | Cairenn | pings the channel again to see if any of our folks from England are awake/here now |
| 10:48.56 | Kalroth | You're doing it wrong, Cairenn, there's a better way to lure chavs out |
| 10:49.22 | Kalroth | waves his burberry hat and yells "FREE PINTS" |
| 10:49.25 | *** join/#wowuidev Pneumatus (n=WiN@pneumatus.plus.com) |
| 10:49.32 | Nechckn | points at some folks who smell of limes and such. |
| 10:49.40 | Nechckn | ;-) |
| 10:49.45 | Nechckn | Like... brykrys!!! |
| 10:49.54 | Kalroth | Pneumatus is a brit too |
| 10:59.33 | Nechckn | Need something translated to English, Cairenn? |
| 10:59.39 | Cairenn | :p |
| 10:59.40 | Nechckn | snickers... |
| 11:00.03 | Cairenn | no, I have a friend who is in serious trouble over there and trying to find some way to help her |
| 11:00.28 | *** join/#wowuidev Teomyr (i=teo@HSI-KBW-085-216-123-189.hsi.kabelbw.de) |
| 11:02.30 | Teomyr | so i missed the tram by like, 30 seconds |
| 11:02.34 | Teomyr | but in retrospect |
| 11:02.41 | Teomyr | http://img97.imageshack.us/i/14011011420001.jpg/ |
| 11:02.47 | EthanCentaurai | yawns. |
| 11:02.50 | Teomyr | i'm rather glad i did :/ |
| 11:02.52 | EthanCentaurai | I'm here Cair |
| 11:03.22 | *** join/#wowuidev stolenlegacy (n=stolenle@d86-33-159-72.cust.tele2.at) |
| 11:03.32 | Cairenn | you're in England? |
| 11:04.45 | EthanCentaurai | yep |
| 11:04.53 | Cairenn | PMing you off-list |
| 11:05.51 | *** join/#wowuidev stolenlegacy (n=stolenle@d86-33-159-72.cust.tele2.at) |
| 11:06.06 | *** join/#wowuidev Ildhesten (n=Ildheste@daimi-pat.daimi.au.dk) |
| 11:06.58 | *** join/#wowuidev stolenlegacy (n=stolenle@d86-33-159-72.cust.tele2.at) |
| 11:08.49 | *** join/#wowuidev crs_ (n=crs@dslb-084-061-097-000.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 11:09.16 | Fisker | what happened Teomyr ? |
| 11:10.19 | Teomyr | one of the two trams appears to have derailed and crashed into a tram coming from the opposite direction |
| 11:11.33 | Cairenn | Teomyr: eep |
| 11:12.39 | Gnarfoz | Teomyr: ouch, which town is that? |
| 11:12.45 | Teomyr | i'm not sure whether that really was the tram I was about to take, nevertheless it was very disturbing to see how the firefighters attempted to free the tram driver from the driver's cabin :/ |
| 11:12.51 | Gnarfoz | oh, Kalrsruhe, I'm blind |
| 11:16.21 | *** join/#wowuidev Aelobin (n=Aelobin@89-168-181-159.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 11:18.22 | Gnarfoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:18.24 | Gnarfoz | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:18.35 | Gnarfoz | from Mumble's positional audio plugin for wow... |
| 11:19.04 | Gnarfoz | Blizz should just license TS3 for Cataclysm and replace their PoS voice chat :p |
| 11:21.25 | Fisker | no |
| 11:21.44 | Fisker | Blizzard should start banning people using shit like that |
| 11:23.08 | Gnarfoz | shit like the Mumble positional audio plugin for WoW? |
| 11:23.19 | Gnarfoz | they should simply offer it themselves! :p |
| 11:25.41 | ZorbaTHut | yeah, just offer an external API for the necessary data or something |
| 11:25.56 | ZorbaTHut | and maybe one to rehook the voice chat system, though that'd be a bit of a beast |
| 11:30.21 | *** join/#wowuidev Dashkal (n=dashkal@WoWUIDev/Nexus/dashkal) |
| 11:45.39 | *** join/#wowuidev Xinhuan (n=xinhuan@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/xinhuan) |
| 11:46.49 | *** topic/#wowuidev by Cairenn -> http://wowuidev.pastey.net/ | 3.3.x ToC: 30300 | #WoWUIDev-commits: CIA & JIRA bots reporting | Anyone living in England, contact Cairenn off-list, please? |
| 11:49.01 | zenzio | off-list? |
| 11:49.12 | Cairenn | ie Private Messages |
| 11:49.33 | Cairenn | so I don't spam the channel |
| 11:49.34 | zenzio | then how will the rest of us eavesdrop? |
| 11:51.10 | Kalroth | "io tosser, ther be polo tshirt in it for ya if ya yell at Cairenn" |
| 11:51.13 | Kalroth | er, oi |
| 11:51.25 | Cairenn | :p |
| 11:53.56 | Fisker | why do you need to know about people living in england? |
| 11:54.00 | Fisker | planning to nuke it? |
| 11:54.25 | Cairenn | I have a friend who is in trouble over there, I'm trying to come up with some help for her |
| 11:54.49 | Cairenn | she is in desperate frantic need of somewhere to stay, she's been on the streets for the last three nights |
| 11:55.22 | Cairenn | and all the shelters nearby are full |
| 11:56.42 | zenzio | :( |
| 11:57.06 | zenzio | is the trouble financial then? |
| 11:57.11 | Cairenn | no |
| 11:57.36 | Cairenn | but I really don't want to spill her business all over the channel, ya know? |
| 11:58.00 | zenzio | of course, I was just wondering if you meant literally "on the street", or in hotels |
| 11:58.15 | Cairenn | I mean literally "on the street" |
| 11:58.25 | zenzio | cause I overthink things, and I was wondering how you were in touch with her if she had monetary problems |
| 11:58.35 | Cairenn | out in the snow and freezing temperatures |
| 11:59.23 | Wobin | internet cafes! |
| 11:59.36 | Cairenn | libraries - they don't charge to use their computers |
| 11:59.43 | Wobin | and they're warm! |
| 12:00.20 | Fisker | also you can watch porn there |
| 12:01.19 | zenzio | I'm sure that's the first thing on her mind now |
| 12:02.06 | Fisker | i'm not so sure zenzelezz |
| 12:40.49 | *** join/#wowuidev brykrys (n=chatzill@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Dev/Brykrys) |
| 12:57.37 | *** join/#wowuidev boshi23 (n=chris@c-68-36-37-83.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 13:03.14 | *** join/#wowuidev mojosdojo_ (n=gdbzet26@p4FEFE818.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:07.02 | *** join/#wowuidev crs_ (n=crs@84.61.97.0) |
| 13:08.51 | *** join/#wowuidev Kazie (n=Kazie@port207.ds1-vg.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 13:10.33 | Adys | Cairenn: I got a friend in london but he's not home, wont be for a couple of months, Im afraid |
| 13:11.11 | Cairenn | Adys: thanks for the thought sweetie |
| 13:14.08 | *** join/#wowuidev pompy1 (n=Mike@c-68-38-45-3.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 13:14.43 | Adys | Cairenn: I know plenty of people outside london though, if anything else goes |
| 13:15.19 | *** join/#wowuidev jacobeiting (n=jacobeit@cpe-75-187-56-220.columbus.res.rr.com) |
| 13:16.19 | Cairenn | Adys: if you could perhaps put some feelers out, see if there's anyone that is relatively close to London that might be able to provide some emergency shelter for a bit, it would be really appreciated |
| 13:16.41 | Adys | Bristol/Dover is probably as close as it gets |
| 13:29.38 | *** join/#wowuidev Lopeppeppy (n=Lopeppep@141.222.29.18) |
| 13:29.38 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Lopeppeppy] by ChanServ |
| 13:44.36 | *** join/#wowuidev taleden (n=alex@user-38q41i6.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 13:51.57 | *** join/#wowuidev Pneumatus (n=WiN@unaffiliated/pneumatus) |
| 13:55.50 | *** join/#wowuidev durhan (n=Adium@nat-ntelos.trstone.com) |
| 13:55.58 | *** join/#wowuidev mascondante (n=kvirc@75-105-27-48.cust.wildblue.net) |
| 14:02.52 | *** join/#wowuidev Lonny` (n=anonymou@bzq-84-109-210-254.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 14:03.45 | *** join/#wowuidev jacobeiting (n=jacobeit@phy-dhcp-34-254.mps.ohio-state.edu) |
| 14:07.35 | mikma | cairenn: did anyone contact you? |
| 14:08.10 | Cairenn | a couple, but no one has really been able to help yet, although they are trying to contact others |
| 14:08.37 | mikma | call a random person in uk |
| 14:09.07 | Cairenn | heh |
| 14:10.09 | Lopeppeppy | jnwhiteh can't help? |
| 14:10.45 | Cairenn | no, but he's keeping his ear to the ground for me |
| 14:10.59 | Industrial | :< |
| 14:12.31 | mikma | cairenn: http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/o_hai3.jpg |
| 14:12.38 | Cairenn | heh |
| 14:14.29 | mikma | http://kuvaton.com/kuvei/failure_police2.jpg |
| 14:14.43 | *** join/#wowuidev Kraps (n=chatzill@ool-44c20717.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 14:14.47 | Wobin | well.. they -stopped- him |
| 14:20.23 | Kraps | morning |
| 14:20.44 | Cairenn | hi Kraps |
| 14:21.02 | Kraps | heya Cairenn |
| 14:30.00 | Kraps | i'm kind of hoping that they will lower the ME2 price by $5 |
| 14:43.03 | Industrial | Anyone here have experience with Symfony by any chance :P? |
| 14:47.03 | *** join/#wowuidev p3lim (n=Miranda@85.108.34.95.customer.cdi.no) |
| 14:47.51 | *** join/#wowuidev sioraiocht (n=tomh@unaffiliated/sioraiocht) |
| 14:52.39 | Adys | Sig |
| 14:52.42 | Adys | Sigh |
| 14:52.43 | Adys | http://pymedia.org/ |
| 14:52.48 | Adys | PyMedia-1.3.7.0 is available for testing in CVS ! |
| 14:52.53 | Adys | Last entry - 4 years ago |
| 14:53.33 | *** join/#wowuidev p3lim (n=Miranda@85.108.34.95.customer.cdi.no) |
| 15:01.34 | *** join/#wowuidev A-KO^ (i=as@unaffiliated/a-ko) |
| 15:01.44 | *** join/#wowuidev Fisker (i=lolgourr@62.61.142.209.generic-hostname.arrownet.dk) |
| 15:01.47 | *** join/#wowuidev Zyn- (n=zyn@h243n2-av-a11.ias.bredband.telia.com) |
| 15:01.59 | *** join/#wowuidev ZorbaTHut (i=tocohl@maximilian.pavlovian.net) |
| 15:05.49 | Kaso | mac osx doesnt merge folders when you copy over in finder |
| 15:05.52 | Kaso | thats frustrating |
| 15:11.32 | *** join/#wowuidev harl (i=harl@dslb-088-077-198-081.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 15:12.26 | Industrial | Kaso: Yes, yes it is. |
| 15:12.34 | Industrial | now runs Ubuntu on his macbook 4.1 |
| 15:14.12 | *** join/#wowuidev nevcairiel (i=quasselc@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/Ace3/nevcairiel) |
| 15:14.14 | *** join/#wowuidev jacobeiting_ (n=jacobeit@dhcp-128-146-160-82.osuwireless.ohio-state.edu) |
| 15:14.21 | *** join/#wowuidev augustl (n=augustl@62.70.2.252) |
| 15:14.42 | *** join/#wowuidev jnwhiteh (n=jnwhiteh@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/cladhaire) |
| 15:14.42 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o jnwhiteh] by ChanServ |
| 15:17.04 | *** join/#wowuidev vince` (i=vschiu@adsl-99-17-205-55.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 15:17.09 | *** join/#wowuidev Caleb| (n=caleb@dsl4E5C0709.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 15:18.09 | *** join/#wowuidev mojosdojo (n=gdbzet26@p4FEFE818.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:18.13 | *** join/#wowuidev tardmrr (n=tardmrr@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Dongle/Tem) |
| 15:18.13 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v tardmrr] by ChanServ |
| 15:19.20 | *** join/#wowuidev Pneumatus (n=WiN@unaffiliated/pneumatus) |
| 15:22.26 | *** join/#wowuidev t (i=tom@freenode/staff/tomaw) |
| 15:27.01 | Kraps | latest episode of ncis is win |
| 15:36.05 | Ackis | http://www.gamefocus.ca/?nav=new&nid=7974 DAO DLC removed from xbox :( |
| 15:37.26 | p3lim | ~seen tekkub |
| 15:37.30 | purl | tekkub <n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/GitHub/Tekkub> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowuidev, 1d 5h 52m 3s ago, saying: 'I've got some protiens for you in my "wifi signal"'. |
| 15:37.54 | Ackis | so something fell on my big toe last night |
| 15:38.00 | Ackis | normally not an issue |
| 15:38.05 | Ackis | however I have no toenails on my big toes |
| 15:38.17 | Ackis | hence I'm in extreme pain last night and terrible pain today |
| 15:38.57 | Kraps | what the name of the addon that selectively loads other addons? |
| 15:39.12 | Lopeppeppy | AddonLoader? |
| 15:39.20 | Kraps | yeah thanks |
| 15:39.20 | Lopeppeppy | There was more than one of them, that's one I remember. |
| 15:49.32 | *** join/#wowuidev ckknight_ (n=ckknight@69.73.16.202) |
| 15:54.04 | *** join/#wowuidev kneeki (n=chatzill@66.45.169.50) |
| 15:54.12 | Thunder_Child | lol http://linuxandwhatever.wordpress.com/stfw-pidgin-plugin/ |
| 15:54.55 | *** join/#wowuidev Lunessa (n=Lunessa@WoWUIDev/Lunessa) |
| 15:54.58 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o ckknight] by ChanServ |
| 15:57.42 | kneeki | I need some math help :( I'm trying to achieve what you see here: http://i.imgur.com/aiarC.jpg however, due to my lack of math skills my code here: http://www.wowi.pastey.net/131472 is not giving me the results I need. Any tips? |
| 15:58.21 | Grum | kneeki: are you using a monospaced font? |
| 15:58.27 | kneeki | My goal is to have that blue ']' at the same point of every line regardless of the length of text within the box. I need to add or remove some spaces |
| 15:58.47 | kneeki | Grum: Probably not, Calibri I think |
| 15:58.53 | Grum | then tough luck |
| 15:58.58 | kneeki | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:59.02 | kneeki | It doesn't need to be perfect |
| 15:59.13 | kneeki | just closer than what it is |
| 15:59.15 | Grum | ... no you dont understand it, you cant get it right |
| 15:59.38 | Grum | if you have a string with WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW vs iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii |
| 15:59.40 | kneeki | I understand it wont be perfect without the correct font family, i just want the math right |
| 15:59.51 | Grum | use string.format |
| 16:00.00 | Grum | then you dont have to do math O.o |
| 16:00.05 | kneeki | O.o |
| 16:00.08 | kneeki | hrm.... |
| 16:01.28 | kneeki | I've not used string.format in this kind of instance before. tbh, I don't even know where I would start. Wouldn't I need to add spaces? |
| 16:01.50 | Grum | lua> print (("[%-10s]"):format("test")) |
| 16:01.51 | lua_bot | Grum: [test ] |
| 16:01.56 | Grum | enjoy :) |
| 16:01.58 | kneeki | gah! |
| 16:02.04 | kneeki | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:03.26 | amro | Grum: wow fonts don't expose kerning data? |
| 16:03.47 | Grum | well, if you have your own fontstring you can check the width ... |
| 16:04.12 | Grum | kneeki: you doing this in the chatframe? |
| 16:04.45 | amro | it would be nice to have something like font:getAdvance(str) --returns width of str |
| 16:04.59 | Grum | you have |
| 16:05.05 | amro | and font:getHeight() and other font metrics |
| 16:07.10 | olafski | that wouldn't do much in the chatframe as you can't add variable amounts of space there can you? |
| 16:07.22 | Grum | olafski: why not? |
| 16:07.39 | Grum | ChatFrame1:AddMessage() doesnt prevent you from putting in 10 spaces in a row afaik |
| 16:07.41 | olafski | I assume you can only add spaces |
| 16:07.44 | amro | olafski: sure you can |
| 16:07.48 | olafski | yeah, but no half spaces |
| 16:07.54 | jnwhiteh | Is there an equivalent of tankspot.com anywhere for healers or other classes? |
| 16:07.54 | olafski | so if you want to line it up perfectly you can't do that |
| 16:07.55 | jnwhiteh | anything as big? |
| 16:08.12 | Grum | jnwhiteh: just scattered sites |
| 16:08.17 | Grum | ea shadowpriest.com for .. well guess =) |
| 16:08.26 | olafski | that would be nice jnwhiteh.. could direct my gf to healerspot.com ,) |
| 16:08.27 | jnwhiteh | I'm looking for good sites to contact to review the new edition of the book |
| 16:08.31 | jnwhiteh | they get free copies =) |
| 16:08.31 | amro | jnwhiteh: http://tkasomething.com/ for hunters |
| 16:08.42 | jnwhiteh | so I'm open to ideas |
| 16:08.50 | olafski | wasn't it something like bigredkitty for hunters too? |
| 16:08.51 | olafski | or is that small |
| 16:09.19 | jnwhiteh | as much as I think he's not the best person to be doing the review |
| 16:09.25 | jnwhiteh | anyone have contact info for the wow.com 'addons' guy? |
| 16:09.43 | olafski | better not let him hear you say that ;) |
| 16:10.07 | jnwhiteh | not talking crap |
| 16:10.13 | jnwhiteh | but the book isn't stuck up curses's ass |
| 16:10.25 | jnwhiteh | and from what I've seen he doesn't cover anything that isn't in the curse-anus. |
| 16:10.25 | jnwhiteh | _) |
| 16:10.27 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 16:10.33 | jnwhiteh | j/k, I do mention curse in the book =) |
| 16:10.54 | olafski | jnwhiteh: http://doyouhave.info/?page_id=166 |
| 16:10.58 | olafski | I believe that is his contact info ;) |
| 16:11.39 | jnwhiteh | I'll just push it to the wow.com PR people |
| 16:11.56 | jnwhiteh | anyone here who has a semi-prominent blog and would be willing to do an honest review of the book as well, shoot me a message |
| 16:12.14 | jnwhiteh | Ackis: lol |
| 16:12.26 | Ackis | :P |
| 16:12.59 | Grum | jnwhiteh: did much change? |
| 16:13.27 | jnwhiteh | In the reference, quite a bit |
| 16:13.29 | jnwhiteh | int he content, also, quite a bit. |
| 16:13.46 | Ackis | moar pics? |
| 16:13.50 | Grum | no electronic version for the poor people who have bought the first edition? =D |
| 16:14.08 | *** join/#wowuidev kdtresh (n=kdtresh@76.212.99.109) |
| 16:14.16 | jnwhiteh | holy shit, the index is 44 pages |
| 16:14.18 | jnwhiteh | haha |
| 16:14.23 | Grum | haha ;D |
| 16:14.46 | Ackis | so it's thicker than the other book? |
| 16:14.54 | Ackis | I don't know if that'll work as well with my couch :P |
| 16:14.57 | jnwhiteh | its 1400 pages |
| 16:15.05 | jnwhiteh | dunno how big the 1st way offhand. |
| 16:15.18 | Adys | jnwhiteh: pong, pm |
| 16:15.26 | jnwhiteh | http://eu.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-0470481285.html contains the full TOC |
| 16:17.21 | jnwhiteh | if you want a glance at what changed |
| 16:17.30 | *** join/#wowuidev Vangual (n=bah@pdpc/supporter/active/vangual) |
| 16:18.23 | *** join/#wowuidev Dashkal_ (n=dashkal@WoWUIDev/Nexus/dashkal) |
| 16:22.10 | jnwhiteh | This guild is excellent. The items are presented in an order that will allow you to make progress very quickly. Once you learn the language the API referance is invaluable and will save you a tremendous amount of time. |
| 16:22.35 | jnwhiteh | and the good old classic |
| 16:22.37 | jnwhiteh | this book is for those who are not wow savvy. If you are you are probably wasting your time. My son was not as impressed with this book as other books he has received. |
| 16:23.10 | Vangual | ouch |
| 16:23.14 | *** join/#wowuidev DJJeff2 (n=crazyjef@d173-183-75-182.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 16:23.41 | Ackis | where are those from? |
| 16:23.41 | Grum | i found it a really nice reference manual which sadly grew out of date over time |
| 16:23.44 | DJJeff2 | nice pics............? |
| 16:23.44 | DJJeff2 | http://wow.curse.com/downloads/packs/2627/default.aspx |
| 16:24.11 | jnwhiteh | Ackis: Amazon.com |
| 16:24.28 | Lopeppeppy | All reference manuals will get out of date, if the referring product changes, it's just the nature of the beast. I still had HTML 2.0 books once upon a time... |
| 16:24.33 | jnwhiteh | Grum: fair assessment, its a book that can't change =) |
| 16:24.35 | Ackis | I suppose I should put a review up on amazon... "This book holds up my couch excellently!" |
| 16:24.42 | jnwhiteh | DJJeff2: lol |
| 16:25.00 | Lopeppeppy | Ackis, don't make me beat you. |
| 16:25.10 | p3lim | anyone knows if phanx uses irc? |
| 16:25.23 | Ackis | she doesn't |
| 16:25.33 | Ackis | Lopeppeppy: BRING IT! /defenseshieldup |
| 16:25.41 | jnwhiteh | she just uses copyright infringment file comments on wowinterface to communicate with anyone |
| 16:25.43 | jnwhiteh | I mean =) |
| 16:25.52 | cogwheel | grabs popcorn |
| 16:25.54 | Grum | jnwhiteh: no chance to obtain an electronic version so i dont have to spend lots of money on something i 'almost have' =D |
| 16:26.01 | Ackis | ~jnwhiteh++ |
| 16:26.13 | jnwhiteh | Grum: not free, but I think they're going to make it available in e-book format |
| 16:26.15 | jnwhiteh | not 100% sure. |
| 16:26.22 | jnwhiteh | I think the first one is available in e-book as well |
| 16:26.23 | Vangual | amazon have it kindelized yet? |
| 16:26.39 | jnwhiteh | dunno |
| 16:26.40 | jnwhiteh | I'd have to check. |
| 16:27.07 | Vangual | doesn't look like it |
| 16:28.22 | haste | jnwhiteh: copyright infringment file comments :p ? |
| 16:29.25 | Vangual | overall mostly sane comments on the book tho |
| 16:30.21 | *** join/#wowuidev DJJeff2 (n=crazyjef@d173-183-75-182.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 16:31.46 | Ackis | http://www.amazon.ca/World-Warcraft-Programming-Reference-Creating/dp/0470229810/ref=sr_1_33?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1263486647&sr=8-33 no reviews on amazon.ca |
| 16:32.10 | jnwhiteh | haste: you'd have to be a moderator on wowi to understand, lol |
| 16:32.21 | jnwhiteh | Ackis: canada exists? |
| 16:32.22 | jnwhiteh | I thought it was just a protectorate of the US |
| 16:32.27 | Ackis | grrr |
| 16:32.30 | Duman | lol |
| 16:32.37 | Ackis | jnwhiteh: I'm not a moderator on wowi yet I understand :P |
| 16:32.42 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 16:32.49 | Ackis | changes his 5 star rating to a 1 star rating |
| 16:32.57 | nicoli_s | lol |
| 16:34.08 | haste | jnwhiteh: >:V |
| 16:37.06 | Ackis | I just submitted my review to amazon.ca! |
| 16:37.07 | Ackis | HAH |
| 16:37.09 | Ackis | HJAHAHHAHAHAH |
| 16:38.10 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 16:38.12 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 16:38.32 | Ackis | I doubt it'll get approved |
| 16:38.40 | jnwhiteh | http://www.rubyinside.com/holiday-fun-how-programming-language-fanboys-see-each-others-languages-2911.html is freaking hilarious |
| 16:38.45 | jnwhiteh | Ackis: its already visible on the site! |
| 16:39.02 | Ackis | lol |
| 16:39.23 | *** join/#wowuidev Shadowed (n=Shadowed@li89-205.members.linode.com) |
| 16:41.48 | kneeki | Grum: yeah I am |
| 16:41.56 | kneeki | Grum: Sorry for the delay =p |
| 16:45.39 | *** join/#wowuidev yoshimo (n=Kassandr@91.12.35.57) |
| 16:46.39 | *** join/#wowuidev Odlaw (i=ozzy@c-98-245-3-204.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 16:46.57 | jnwhiteh | yawns# |
| 16:47.10 | jnwhiteh | I think the Tuskarr on the cover of the new book is cute |
| 16:47.12 | jnwhiteh | I want one! |
| 16:47.53 | *** join/#wowuidev crs_ (n=crs@dslb-084-061-097-000.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 16:51.48 | mikma | jnwhiteh: links |
| 16:52.23 | jnwhiteh | mikma: .. for? |
| 16:52.34 | zenzelezz | hardcore browsing |
| 16:52.39 | jnwhiteh | http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0470481285/ref=s9_simi_gw_s0_p14_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1W7CZ88MBB8BVP8KM70E&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846 |
| 16:52.44 | jnwhiteh | SOOO many session vars# |
| 16:52.56 | zenzelezz | are you kidding? That's short for Amazon |
| 16:53.07 | cogwheel | http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0470481285/ imo ? |
| 16:53.18 | jnwhiteh | i was lazy |
| 16:53.20 | jnwhiteh | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:53.27 | jnwhiteh | ttp://news.bbc.co.uk/local/oxford/hi/people_and_places/newsid_8458000/8458645.stm |
| 16:53.29 | jnwhiteh | err |
| 16:53.31 | cogwheel | a sure sign of a good programmer |
| 16:53.31 | jnwhiteh | http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/oxford/hi/people_and_places/newsid_8458000/8458645.stm |
| 16:53.38 | jnwhiteh | haha |
| 16:53.40 | mikma | jnwhiteh: who is rick roe? rick... rolled? |
| 16:53.42 | jnwhiteh | those are my police officers |
| 16:53.45 | jnwhiteh | mikma: Gazmik |
| 16:53.49 | mikma | who? |
| 16:53.54 | Lopeppeppy | And they're having fun, jnwhiteh. I love it. |
| 16:53.57 | jnwhiteh | Gazmik Fizzwidget.. |
| 16:54.00 | jnwhiteh | Lopeppeppy: =) |
| 16:54.01 | mikma | ah |
| 16:54.57 | Lopeppeppy | Any day they can sit on 'em instead of hiding behind 'em is good by me. |
| 16:56.17 | cogwheel | http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8447023.stm just a bit chilly |
| 16:56.31 | jnwhiteh | not really, actually =) |
| 16:56.38 | jnwhiteh | ask mikma how warm it is there, hehe |
| 16:56.45 | Cairenn | rofl @ the bobbies |
| 16:57.12 | Lopeppeppy | OMG, global storms, we're all gonna die. What's that movie? Day Before Tomorrow? |
| 16:57.20 | Cairenn | ^^ |
| 16:57.36 | Fisker | i'm a ninja |
| 16:57.41 | Lopeppeppy | That picture really does remind me of that movie though. *sad panda* |
| 16:58.07 | jnwhiteh | Lopeppeppy: The day before the day after yesterday, imo. |
| 16:59.01 | Lopeppeppy | Hmm, coulds be messy. Bring an umbrella. |
| 16:59.33 | Lopeppeppy | Attendez les yeux! |
| 17:01.51 | *** join/#wowuidev mascondante (n=kvirc@75-105-27-48.cust.wildblue.net) |
| 17:02.30 | mikma | jnwhiteh: -6.0°C |
| 17:02.43 | mikma | it was -30°C (and colder) couple of weeks ago |
| 17:02.55 | cogwheel | WTF |
| 17:02.56 | cogwheel | A proponent of California's same-sex marriage ban warned voters in a letter during the 2008 campaign that gay rights activists would try to legalize sex with children if same-sex couples had the right to wed |
| 17:04.02 | Thunder_Child | jnwhiteh: that would be yesterday. |
| 17:04.55 | Adys | wow is a piece of shit |
| 17:05.11 | Adys | its been leaking memory for 5 years they never fixed it |
| 17:05.56 | Lunessa | "In sooth, then, faithful friend, this was a rug of value? Thou wouldst call it not a rug among ordinary rugs, but a rug of purpose? A star in a firmament, in step with the fashion alike to the Whitsun morris-dance? A worthy rug, a rug of consequence, sir?" |
| 17:06.03 | jnwhiteh | Thunder_Child: I'm aware =) |
| 17:06.27 | jnwhiteh | cogwheel: that's the LEAST of the bullshit lies they told idiots to get them to vote for Prop 8. |
| 17:06.31 | cogwheel | offers Thunder_Child an "I figured it out" cookie |
| 17:06.38 | Lopeppeppy | TC, he was teasing me, I think. I'm gonna guess he was pullin' my pigtails. |
| 17:07.17 | cogwheel | jnwhiteh: this statement was presented in evidence at the current trial >< |
| 17:07.31 | Fisker | slaps cogwheel around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:07.34 | Fisker | you can't |
| 17:08.17 | Fisker | http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-january-12-2010/dreaded-bliss <-related and awesome |
| 17:08.43 | jnwhiteh | cogwheel: how is the trial being publicised? |
| 17:09.44 | cogwheel | last i heard they were still considering whether to televize/stream it... not sure whether they've decided yet, haven't been paying much attention the last couple days |
| 17:09.53 | jnwhiteh | *nod* fair enough |
| 17:09.58 | jnwhiteh | i go between being absurdly busy |
| 17:10.02 | jnwhiteh | to not being able to do anything |
| 17:10.04 | jnwhiteh | fuckign diseases |
| 17:10.30 | cogwheel | *comfort* |
| 17:10.43 | Kraps | i just got http://www.wowhead.com/?achievement=1868 , fuck people who leave oculus |
| 17:10.49 | Lunessa | jnwhiteh: Truly, that sucks. I'm hoping that you can get some real relief and treatment. |
| 17:10.58 | jnwhiteh | it's not all that bad |
| 17:11.11 | jnwhiteh | just sucks sometimes, and whether that's my brain, my body, or the tumor.. *shrug* |
| 17:11.24 | jnwhiteh | should have more news in a few weeks I think |
| 17:11.37 | Lunessa | *nod* I just dislike my friends being unhealthy and miserable. |
| 17:11.44 | cogwheel | Kraps: emphasis on the "just"? or on the "fuck people"? |
| 17:11.50 | Lopeppeppy | cogwheel, the courts are currently still prohibiting any kind of taping, so it's all news/blogging stuff, nothing live. |
| 17:11.58 | Lopeppeppy | jnwhiteh - *big hugs* |
| 17:11.59 | jnwhiteh | well I'm not miserable, so don't let that get you down =) |
| 17:12.09 | Kraps | cogwheel: the latter |
| 17:12.17 | Ackis | ⢠In Mass Effect 2 (shipping January 26th for the Xbox 360 videogame and entertainment system, PC), a shooter RPG from EAâs award-winning BioWare⢠division, there are three unique pieces of armor: two helmets and a visor. The game was recently named by The New York Times as one of 2010âs most anticipated games. |
| 17:12.19 | Ackis | :( |
| 17:12.26 | Ackis | Dr Pepper US promotion :( |
| 17:12.27 | cogwheel | Kraps: i like oc |
| 17:12.32 | cogwheel | i like gnomer too |
| 17:12.45 | cogwheel | resists peer pressure |
| 17:12.50 | Kraps | ok thats just messed up cog |
| 17:13.24 | amro | cogwheel: what about maraudon and BRD? |
| 17:13.53 | cogwheel | only been to mara a couple times so can't say, and BRD never really bothered me... |
| 17:14.03 | Kraps | Ackis: whats the matter? |
| 17:14.27 | jnwhiteh | goes to the office |
| 17:14.33 | Fisker | anyways Ackis |
| 17:14.35 | Fisker | i enrage! |
| 17:14.59 | Fisker | January 29th for those of us that are poor and irish |
| 17:15.37 | Ackis | Kraps: I'm not american so I can't get the codes :P |
| 17:16.00 | Fisker | promotion for what Ackis ? |
| 17:16.12 | Lunessa | Damn it people... if you wait until 2 days before classes start to submit the paperwork, how the hell do you expect me to have everything ready in time? |
| 17:16.22 | Kraps | Ackis: its the special edition bonus, not a code thing... |
| 17:16.30 | amro | Lunessa: you don't have a time machine? |
| 17:16.34 | Ackis | Kraps: no, this is part of the dr pepper promotion |
| 17:16.37 | Ackis | Fisker: ^ |
| 17:16.41 | Kraps | oh |
| 17:16.55 | Ackis | http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/home/permalink/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20100108005273&newsLang=en |
| 17:17.06 | Ackis | http://www.drpepper.com/promotions/ |
| 17:17.44 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, I just finished a project that I got yesterday that was due January 1. We can has tiem mashinez! |
| 17:18.26 | Fisker | "XFX Radeon HD 5670 - For the Gamer Within." |
| 17:18.33 | Fisker | What a hilarious and misleading title |
| 17:18.38 | Lunessa | Yay! |
| 17:18.50 | *** join/#wowuidev pompy (n=Mike@c-68-38-45-3.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 17:20.50 | *** join/#wowuidev svenadh (n=sven@L0.moenchengladbach01.fdknet.de) |
| 17:21.08 | theorbtwo | What, it connects to the pci express slot in your soul? |
| 17:21.30 | durcyn | no, it just doesn't fit in his rectum like he's come to expect |
| 17:22.09 | Lunessa | ... that's an image I could have skipped ever envisioning. |
| 17:23.30 | Lopeppeppy | ... pass the brain bleach |
| 17:28.35 | Fisker | btw NeoTron |
| 17:29.09 | nevcairiel | anyone played STO more then an hour? does it get any better later on? so far i'm pretty unimpressed, and its buggy like hell :P |
| 17:29.57 | cogwheel | nevcairiel: methinks you'd be similarly unimpressed by wow in 2004 ;) |
| 17:30.05 | cogwheel | 925157 |
| 17:30.08 | cogwheel | mt |
| 17:30.11 | cogwheel | >< |
| 17:30.38 | *** join/#wowuidev Gotai (n=Gotai@ip54546435.adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl) |
| 17:30.48 | cogwheel | least it wasn't my pw... |
| 17:30.53 | nevcairiel | I was actually pretty impressed by WoW in the first beta i played .. was closed US anyway, and this is open beta, so it should be more advanced then that |
| 17:33.04 | Fisker | http://i47.tinypic.com/5ajf9g.png |
| 17:33.27 | nevcairiel | you're doing it wrong |
| 17:35.54 | *** join/#wowuidev Dekster (n=chatzill@pool-71-108-10-65.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 17:37.22 | nevcairiel | oh hey its patching again =P |
| 17:37.59 | *** join/#wowuidev dinesh (n=dinesh@WoWUIDev/Norganna/PRManager/Dinesh) |
| 17:38.18 | *** join/#wowuidev dinesh1 (n=dinesh@12.15.114.194) |
| 17:39.13 | Lunessa | jnwhiteh: I will not copy/paste but I will laugh so hard I popped a vein. |
| 17:40.27 | Ackis | Fisker: wtf did you do? :P |
| 17:43.57 | *** join/#wowuidev Pneu (n=WiN@pneumatus.plus.com) |
| 17:46.55 | *** join/#wowuidev Pneumatus (n=WiN@pneumatus.plus.com) |
| 17:49.47 | *** join/#wowuidev Dewin (n=Daniel@c-71-59-222-35.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 17:49.58 | *** join/#wowuidev sioraiocht (n=tomh@unaffiliated/sioraiocht) |
| 17:52.18 | *** join/#wowuidev Kaso (n=Kaso@host86-167-225-209.range86-167.btcentralplus.com) |
| 17:52.30 | Fisker | nothings Ackis |
| 17:57.39 | *** join/#wowuidev Kalroth (i=kalroth@3e6ba866.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 18:05.42 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: you names yourself fisker, how uniuque. that also happened to me but i hit my ss button to late :( |
| 18:05.48 | Thunder_Child | named* |
| 18:06.14 | NeoTron | Fisker: so err... why is the spaceship smaller than the people? :P |
| 18:06.20 | Thunder_Child | it'sa glitch |
| 18:06.49 | NeoTron | in either case, how is it? I haven't really even considered testing it after Champions.. |
| 18:07.06 | Thunder_Child | well, very laggy atm, but that is to be expected |
| 18:07.55 | Thunder_Child | and i cant get a clear understanding till the lag goes away, since i dont know if something is done badly, or it is just the lag |
| 18:10.07 | *** join/#wowuidev isman (n=drag@mlr78-3-88-162-68-235.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 18:10.38 | *** join/#wowuidev ZorbaTHut (i=tocohl@maximilian.pavlovian.net) |
| 18:17.14 | NeoTron | indeed |
| 18:17.39 | NeoTron | I'm admittedly not even close to being a trekkie, so it just isn't amazingly interesting to me |
| 18:18.51 | Vangual | do level 1's start with a red linen shirt? |
| 18:18.52 | Thunder_Child | i'm tired of fantasy mmo's i want a good sci-fi one |
| 18:19.03 | Fisker | NeoTron my friend |
| 18:19.07 | Thunder_Child | Vangual: no |
| 18:19.11 | Lunessa | Have folks checked armory lately? Very sexy. |
| 18:19.12 | Fisker | that fedex shot yesterday was that yours? |
| 18:19.16 | Thunder_Child | neither are they linnen |
| 18:19.17 | Thunder_Child | linen* |
| 18:19.18 | Fisker | old Lunessa |
| 18:19.52 | Lunessa | Fisker: It's ok. Someday, you'll be out of your 20s and you'll be taking little blue pills. |
| 18:20.16 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: WH40K MMO is supposedly in development. |
| 18:20.25 | Fisker | i'm not taking little blue pills Lunessa |
| 18:20.35 | Lunessa | You will. |
| 18:20.41 | Fisker | nope |
| 18:23.54 | NeoTron | Thunder_Child: I don't disagree with the sentiment |
| 18:24.11 | NeoTron | Fisker: It wasn't mine, it was an inturnet link |
| 18:24.47 | NeoTron | I got the wow calendar into my iphone.. unfortunately all times are eastern |
| 18:25.04 | Thunder_Child | Lunessa: that sounds interesting |
| 18:25.09 | NeoTron | or some other random timezone |
| 18:25.19 | Thunder_Child | i would love a BFG MMO but i doubt that will ever happen |
| 18:25.27 | *** join/#wowuidev Hjalte (n=chatzill@cpe.ge-0-2-0-835.arcnqu2.customer.tele.dk) |
| 18:25.31 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: I'm interested, but there's not a lot of information on it out there. |
| 18:25.45 | NeoTron | Lunessa: I always wondered why the heck they would make a fantasy warhammer mmo when there's WH40K |
| 18:26.41 | Thunder_Child | NeoTron: because of wow possibly, or because the fantasy one has more of a storyline (which i doubt since 40K has a huge one) |
| 18:26.49 | Fisker | NeoTron try checking the calendar part |
| 18:26.53 | Fisker | there's an option to use local time |
| 18:26.57 | Thunder_Child | more mini's possibly |
| 18:26.57 | Lunessa | NeoTron: A company was granted a license, but there's not much info on what they're doing. |
| 18:26.59 | Fisker | dunno if it works with the feed though |
| 18:29.15 | Lunessa | Thunder_Child: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=22418867410&postId=224166621414&sid=1#10 |
| 18:29.19 | Lunessa | Oops. |
| 18:29.22 | Lunessa | Wrong link |
| 18:29.36 | Lunessa | http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/57994 |
| 18:31.00 | *** join/#wowuidev Keias (n=bleh@pool-72-86-106-233.aubnin.fios.verizon.net) |
| 18:31.33 | Bruners | anyone tested star trek online? (and in linux) |
| 18:31.43 | Kraps | Gmail now even more secure: HTTPS by default |
| 18:32.29 | NeoTron | Bruners: Fisker and Thunder_Child :P |
| 18:32.51 | Thunder_Child | not in linux |
| 18:33.01 | nevcairiel | I tested it, but not in linux, but i'm not particularly impressed yet |
| 18:33.18 | Bruners | looking at the screenshots it looked kinda 2004 |
| 18:33.58 | *** join/#wowuidev recluse (n=recluse@71.145.159.90) |
| 18:34.20 | Thunder_Child | heh, max graphics in the station can turn the game into a flip book, and i know my system is well above nomral |
| 18:34.26 | Thunder_Child | normal* |
| 18:34.28 | nevcairiel | so is mine |
| 18:34.35 | Lunessa | <3 Paelhoof "No time for love, Doctor Jones. " LOL |
| 18:34.35 | nevcairiel | i had to turn stuff way down for stations to run fine |
| 18:34.56 | Thunder_Child | in space however it seems to be better |
| 18:34.57 | Bruners | their page also looks like crap |
| 18:35.02 | theorbtwo | That makes pefect sense when you are writing a game you don't expect to go to market for a while. |
| 18:35.19 | nevcairiel | theorbtwo: but you don't see why it would be slow :P |
| 18:35.27 | NeoTron | Thunder_Child: there's a reason 3d gaming began in earnest in space - it's much easier to render |
| 18:35.46 | Thunder_Child | NeoTron: yet it still looks good |
| 18:35.51 | theorbtwo | NeoTron: OTOH, I've heard (elsewhere) that it's not properly 3d. |
| 18:36.06 | NeoTron | Thunder_Child: right but there's no ground to render |
| 18:36.11 | theorbtwo | OTOH, space combat in the actual shows tends to not be properly 3d either. |
| 18:36.13 | cbreak | omg! Only projected to a 2D screen? |
| 18:36.26 | Thunder_Child | NeoTron: i never said otherwise |
| 18:36.43 | Thunder_Child | though i have no issues on the away team missions either |
| 18:36.50 | theorbtwo | cbreak: As in you can't dive straight down or up, so you need to do a complex spiral path. |
| 18:37.10 | cbreak | uhm... that sounds dumb |
| 18:37.16 | cbreak | in space, there's no up and down |
| 18:37.25 | cbreak | or in other words "The enemy's gate is down" |
| 18:37.34 | theorbtwo | cbreak: I know, and agree. |
| 18:37.57 | Thunder_Child | in other words PEOPLE ARE STUPID, and making a game that has full 3D orentaion would be bad |
| 18:38.12 | cbreak | EVE has it. Kind of |
| 18:38.19 | Thunder_Child | people get confused with space simulators |
| 18:38.36 | cbreak | but somehow, EVE has Ether resistance or something similar |
| 18:38.41 | recluse | Anyone know how to get a return value from LFGGetDungeonInfoByID()? |
| 18:38.47 | cbreak | (ships have a top speed limit! can you believe that?) |
| 18:40.05 | Thunder_Child | resonable when you are talking about non reaction drive engines |
| 18:40.38 | cbreak | not really |
| 18:40.44 | cbreak | top speed ... relative to what? |
| 18:41.08 | Thunder_Child | light speed i would imagine |
| 18:41.29 | theorbtwo | Top speed, relative to the amount of junk hitting your windscreen? |
| 18:41.31 | cbreak | it's actually much lower |
| 18:42.02 | theorbtwo | To the actual universal frame of reference that does exist, because if you have a FTL drive you are throwing out relativity anyway? |
| 18:42.18 | cbreak | 550m/s is not that fast |
| 18:42.20 | *** join/#wowuidev Seerah (n=Ryan@c-76-107-191-65.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 18:42.20 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Seerah] by ChanServ |
| 18:42.56 | cbreak | barely mach 2 |
| 18:42.56 | Thunder_Child | right, you are ignonring the lightspeed limit via a loophole |
| 18:43.07 | theorbtwo | 1230 miles/hour, that's slower then a fighter jet, IIRC. |
| 18:43.25 | Thunder_Child | ignoring* |
| 18:43.29 | theorbtwo | Wow. Mach 1.7, even. |
| 18:43.57 | theorbtwo | Anyway, it's pretty clear that in Star Trek, ships *do* have a maximum speed, when at warp, at least. |
| 18:44.01 | cbreak | I read that there are special scram jet engines that can reach mach 7 or so |
| 18:44.15 | theorbtwo | (It's far less clear that they do when sublight.) |
| 18:44.31 | cbreak | well, I guess our current rockets are more advanced |
| 18:44.40 | cbreak | no speed limits :) |
| 18:44.50 | cbreak | or maybe their limits are by-policy |
| 18:45.09 | theorbtwo | cbreak: They most certianly do -- our current rockets won't get even close to light-speed! |
| 18:45.36 | cbreak | light speed is not a limit |
| 18:45.48 | Thunder_Child | accorsing to our phyics it is |
| 18:45.49 | cbreak | because relativity screws up references before you get close |
| 18:45.55 | Thunder_Child | physics* |
| 18:46.30 | cbreak | even if you're very close to light speed, you can still accellerate |
| 18:46.47 | cbreak | (most of your invested energy goes into dynamic mass though) |
| 18:46.49 | Thunder_Child | close to != @ |
| 18:47.14 | *** join/#wowuidev kd3 (n=kd3@wikia/kaydeethree) |
| 18:47.29 | kd3 | wtfs |
| 18:47.35 | theorbtwo | cbreak: More to the point, for our current rockets, maximum speed is above the speed that you get if you just use all the propellant in a straight line. |
| 18:47.57 | kd3 | I've got a mailbox made pretty much entirely out of 3/8" steel concreted a good 2 feet in the ground |
| 18:48.02 | cbreak | doing that is not the smartest use of fuel |
| 18:48.10 | cbreak | not in a solar system with gravity bodies |
| 18:48.10 | theorbtwo | That doesn't mean that there isn't a speed that you can't go faster then without interplanetary garbage tearing them appart. |
| 18:48.11 | kd3 | someone must've hit it going 50 mph because it's nearly on its side now |
| 18:49.10 | cbreak | most of space is empty :) |
| 18:49.26 | theorbtwo | cbreak: No, most of space is mostly empty. |
| 18:49.27 | kd3 | and yay... my w-2's done |
| 18:49.49 | *** join/#wowuidev alestane (n=Nevin@c-66-30-209-28.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 18:49.49 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v alestane] by ChanServ |
| 18:50.09 | theorbtwo | There's a fair bit of hydrogen around the solar system. |
| 18:50.25 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5448163/who-says-snowboarding-and-evening-gowns-dont-mix |
| 18:50.30 | NeoTron | wow. the calendar import on the iphone is entirely broken |
| 18:51.02 | NeoTron | say my raid today starts tomorrow at 5:30 AM |
| 18:52.27 | Lopeppeppy | Sweet. |
| 18:52.30 | jnwhiteh | clearly your core is hard. |
| 18:52.37 | Lopeppeppy | *snark* |
| 18:52.39 | theorbtwo | Timezone issues? |
| 18:52.41 | durcyn | http://firstpersontetris.com |
| 18:52.58 | NeoTron | theorbtwo: yeah clearly except there's no way to modify time zones so the blizzard export is broken shit |
| 18:54.02 | Shirik | durcyn that is seriously messing with my head |
| 18:54.31 | Shirik | (13:46:23) (cbreak) even if you're very close to light speed, you can still accellerate |
| 18:54.38 | Shirik | You can always accelerate |
| 18:54.52 | cbreak | not when you reached top speed in Eve online |
| 18:55.00 | Shirik | Because it is impossible to reach light speed, it is impossible to reach a position in which you cannot accelerate |
| 18:55.11 | Shirik | s/position/condition/ |
| 18:55.30 | cbreak | indeed. That's why it's not really a limit. |
| 18:55.39 | cbreak | just has diminishing returns... :) |
| 18:55.47 | NeoTron | DTSTART:20100115T053000 |
| 18:55.47 | kd3 | but what's the point of burning energy when your delta-v is infitesimal as you get close to c? |
| 18:55.58 | NeoTron | I'm guessing it's UTC, and supposed to be UTC, but the iphone is broken? :P |
| 18:56.05 | Shirik | kd3: It's not zero |
| 18:56.06 | jnwhiteh | why is the login server down |
| 18:56.08 | Shirik | it's only zero at c |
| 18:56.08 | jnwhiteh | this is a slap in the face blizz. |
| 18:56.17 | cbreak | kd3: increasing dynamic mass to get higher energy colisions! |
| 18:56.37 | cbreak | lives in the country of the LHC |
| 18:56.39 | Shirik | Here's a fun concept |
| 18:56.54 | Shirik | Is there an infinite amount of matter in the world? It's hard to imagine that there is |
| 18:57.06 | Shirik | s/world/universe/ |
| 18:57.09 | Shirik | But if there isn't, there has to be a point in space at which there is no matter beyond it |
| 18:57.13 | Lunessa | all I have to say is ... who needs fantasy when you have physics? |
| 18:57.36 | Shirik | If that's true, then it would be interesting to keep acceleratingfrom that point away from matter |
| 18:57.49 | Shirik | because then you have no concerns |
| 18:58.41 | Shirik | This relies on the assumption that there isn't an infinite amount of matter. If there is, then we reach another problem, that is, being pulled with infinite force in all directions |
| 18:58.49 | cbreak | Shirik: ring buffer |
| 18:59.27 | Fisker | sneaks Shirik down his pants |
| 19:00.03 | Shirik | cbreak: Not everything in the world is a perfect circle |
| 19:00.08 | Shirik | nor is everything the LHC |
| 19:00.09 | Fisker | hey jnwhiteh i'm currently logged into WoW |
| 19:00.16 | Fisker | that's a slap in the face |
| 19:00.45 | Shirik | apparently the LHC is not a perfect circle |
| 19:00.49 | Shirik | but that is irrelevant! |
| 19:01.56 | *** join/#wowuidev smcn (i=smcn@c-174-52-39-78.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 19:01.59 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:02.09 | Fisker | that's also a slap in the face Shirik |
| 19:02.12 | Shirik | no |
| 19:02.28 | theorbtwo | Shirik: probably to account for corrorriolous effects. However the hell you spell that. |
| 19:02.29 | Grum | inserts the trout into Fisker |
| 19:02.30 | Shirik | http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=51663 is a slap in the face |
| 19:02.32 | cbreak | I don't think they could make the trajectory a perfect circle with a finite ammount of magnets |
| 19:03.18 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:03.44 | alestane | Also, being surrounded by an infinite amount of matter on all sides does not equate to being subject to infinite gravity in all directions. |
| 19:04.07 | Shirik | it does if you have infinite mass |
| 19:04.20 | alestane | No, because not all that mass has an equal effect. |
| 19:04.28 | Shirik | you said infinite, not equal |
| 19:04.37 | cbreak | if it's evenly distributed (infinite in all directions), it's the same :) |
| 19:04.50 | cbreak | if it's finite in one directon, you're in trouble |
| 19:04.53 | alestane | Similar to how you can have a finite resistance in an infinite grid of resistors. |
| 19:05.20 | Lopeppeppy | Phenomenal cosmic powers! ....itty bitty living space |
| 19:05.25 | Shirik | the formula for gravity is pretty straightforward |
| 19:05.33 | Shirik | infinite mass == infinite force, straight up |
| 19:05.43 | Shirik | the other masses are essentially irrelevant |
| 19:06.06 | cbreak | integrate the force from all directions |
| 19:06.17 | Shirik | tiem for class kbye |
| 19:07.21 | alestane | Gravity is subject to the inverse square principle, so its effectiveness diminishes very rapidly when it's further away. It seems likely that it could effectively converge on a finite value...depends how you end up calculating it though. |
| 19:07.56 | cbreak | when I'd end up calculating it |
| 19:08.02 | cbreak | it'd end up on a new value every time |
| 19:09.21 | *** join/#wowuidev Zasurus (n=IceChat7@78-105-174-15.zone3.bethere.co.uk) |
| 19:10.09 | Fisker | you wouldn't Gnarfoz |
| 19:10.21 | Gnarfoz | I wouldn't gnarfoz, that's right |
| 19:10.59 | alestane | Rather like http://xkcd.com/356/ ... an infinite number of circuits each with finite resistance seems like it should sum to infinite resistance, but it doesn't. |
| 19:13.06 | Ackis | so did anyone drink dr pepper over the lunch hour? |
| 19:13.19 | Ackis | :P |
| 19:13.27 | Ackis | I'm whoring myself out for dr pepper codes btw |
| 19:13.32 | ccox | alestane - you just had to bring that up |
| 19:13.46 | ccox | alestane: now shirik will be trying to solve it for the next couple of hours |
| 19:14.10 | Adys | ~amro++ |
| 19:15.16 | amro | Ackis: if they did, they'd be dead by now |
| 19:15.20 | amro | tastes like poison |
| 19:15.36 | Dagmar | alestane: Dude, if they're serial it's infinite, if they're parallel it's no resistance |
| 19:16.07 | alestane | ccox: There's a solution on the internet, although my knowledge of electrodynamics and parametric calculus is not adequate to examine it. |
| 19:16.10 | Ackis | amro: nein, it tastes like heaven |
| 19:16.37 | alestane | Dagmar: Worse, they're partly parallel and partly overlapping. It nets to a finite, non-zero resistance. |
| 19:17.01 | Dagmar | No, that's the mathematician's answer. |
| 19:17.14 | Dagmar | The electrician's answer is that reality exists, life's fucking short, and the resistance is zero |
| 19:17.46 | Dagmar | A close second is "the resistance of the wire leading to said rat's nest" |
| 19:19.03 | alestane | Dagmar: I don't have the solution handy, but I'm pretty sure the resistance is non-trivial. |
| 19:19.44 | alestane | It doesn't work out to 1/inf or something like that, it's significant based on the number of steps apart and the effective resistance of each step. |
| 19:19.48 | Dagmar | An infinite number of parallel resistors asymptotically approaches zero resistance |
| 19:20.12 | alestane | The page said it was related somehow to how anti-static mats work, I think. |
| 19:20.25 | alestane | But they're not purely parallel, either. |
| 19:20.57 | Dagmar | They're nowhere near infinite either. |
| 19:21.38 | Dagmar | An anti-static mat is at the very least, _flat_ |
| 19:22.44 | *** join/#wowuidev augustl (n=augustl@s0034-0015.dsl.start.no) |
| 19:24.33 | alestane | Apparently for this particular problem it comes out to be 4/pi - 0.5 ohms for the nodes 2 spaces apart in one direction and 1 apart in the other. |
| 19:25.41 | Grum | beca |
| 19:25.47 | Grum | meh! wrong window fail |
| 19:26.01 | alestane | As some of these pages point out, you can add an infinite series of infinitely diminishing values together and converge on a significantly finite number. |
| 19:26.25 | Dagmar | Those are mathematicians |
| 19:26.33 | Dagmar | They're not electricians. |
| 19:27.47 | Dagmar | Either way, the problem cited on the sign on XKCD's site is _not_ an infinite number of parallel resistance circuits |
| 19:27.58 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: okay. |
| 19:29.02 | alestane | Dagmar: Of course they're not. An electrician starts with the fact that there's no such thing as an infinite grid of resistors, and even if there were he wouldn't be plugging anything into it. |
| 19:29.50 | olafski | is there any known fix for the combat log "not working"? |
| 19:30.53 | Ackis | http://negativegamer.com/2010/01/14/adventures-in-middle-aged-gaming-do-you-mind-im-urinating lol some dude went pee with his baby strapped on his back... and was playing an iphone game whilst peeing |
| 19:31.03 | alestane | And it wouldn't be according to code anyway, so he'd have to rip it out and charge extra. |
| 19:31.18 | Dagmar | alestane: Not withut a video camera to put the resulting fireworks on YouTube he wouldn't |
| 19:31.38 | Industrial | http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/celebrity-pictures-kate-beckinsale-kick-head.jpg |
| 19:31.39 | Industrial | :') |
| 19:32.25 | alestane | Darn, and Peppy's not even here. |
| 19:43.43 | *** join/#wowuidev Pneumatus (n=WiN@unaffiliated/pneumatus) |
| 19:45.00 | Fisker | what jnwhiteh ? |
| 19:45.08 | jnwhiteh | ohai |
| 19:45.12 | Fisker | hai |
| 19:45.15 | jnwhiteh | olafski: relog. |
| 19:45.15 | jnwhiteh | that's it. |
| 19:45.48 | *** join/#wowuidev Tinyboom (n=nahh@ti0121a340-dhcp0200.bb.online.no) |
| 19:50.21 | Adys | To [Lona]: Does he look like a bitch? |
| 19:50.21 | Adys | [Lona] whispers: What? |
| 19:50.48 | amro | should I ask for context? |
| 19:50.56 | Thunder_Child | no |
| 19:50.56 | Adys | there isnt any |
| 19:51.03 | Thunder_Child | it's safer if you dont |
| 19:51.38 | Adys | basically my guild's doing rotface |
| 19:51.47 | Adys | and one of their main healers was like |
| 19:51.54 | Adys | "Hey there's pulp fiction on tv" |
| 19:52.08 | Adys | next thing you know, what does marcellus rotface look like |
| 19:52.32 | Fisker | btw Shirik you never answered me |
| 19:52.36 | Fisker | also jnwhiteh what was ok? :( |
| 19:52.40 | Adys | DAMN RIGHT HE DIDNT |
| 19:56.19 | Adys | "Ballmer hits 10th anniversary as microsoft CEO. IKEA releases new SPIKA fully-wooden chair line" |
| 19:57.43 | Fisker | wut? |
| 19:57.53 | *** join/#wowuidev Zyn (n=zyn@h243n2-av-a11.ias.bredband.telia.com) |
| 19:57.54 | jnwhiteh | everyting |
| 19:57.54 | jnwhiteh | nothing |
| 19:57.59 | Fisker | has been that long? |
| 19:58.01 | Fisker | has it* |
| 19:58.04 | Adys | jnwhiteh: pms. |
| 19:58.07 | Fisker | zomg |
| 19:58.11 | Fisker | it has |
| 19:58.50 | *** join/#wowuidev Kraftman (n=kraft@cpc2-cwma7-2-0-cust130.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 19:59.33 | Thunder_Child | hands Adys a rag |
| 20:00.00 | Adys | strangles Thunder_Child with said rag |
| 20:00.32 | *** join/#wowuidev tekkub (n=tekkub@WoWUIDev/WoWI/Featured/Dongle/GitHub/Tekkub) |
| 20:00.33 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v tekkub] by ChanServ |
| 20:01.10 | Fisker | masturbates |
| 20:01.24 | Fisker | also don't take it out of context tekkub |
| 20:01.26 | Fisker | that would be mean |
| 20:03.22 | Fisker | btw jnwhiteh |
| 20:03.24 | Fisker | We have received your item, posted on 13/01/10 and it is being processed for delivery abroad. |
| 20:03.25 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 20:03.29 | Fisker | their tracking site sucks btw |
| 20:09.19 | *** join/#wowuidev kneeki (n=chatzill@66.45.169.50) |
| 20:10.34 | *** join/#wowuidev Repo (n=supybot@repos.curseforge.net) |
| 20:10.50 | Thunder_Child | bah, ~lmgtfy needs less fail |
| 20:13.54 | *** join/#wowuidev Norsken (n=xkxaxn@84-217-13-152.tn.glocalnet.net) |
| 20:16.02 | *** join/#wowuidev Kalroth_ (i=kalroth@3e6ba866.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 20:16.38 | *** join/#wowuidev Gryphon (n=gryphon@c-71-227-239-71.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 20:35.00 | Kraps | i finished indigo peophecy |
| 20:35.08 | Kraps | prophecy* |
| 20:35.33 | Ackis | I just burnt my finger with cheese :( |
| 20:36.14 | zenzelezz | why? |
| 20:37.24 | Ackis | it was in a chimichonga (sp?) and the hot cheese leaked out onto my finger :( |
| 20:37.24 | batbot | Ackis, nothing found. |
| 20:38.22 | alestane | Chimichanga, I think. |
| 20:39.16 | amro | Kraps: you mean simon says |
| 20:39.29 | Kraps | amro: ha |
| 20:39.45 | Kraps | those pars arent that easy k? |
| 20:39.50 | amro | those sequences were ridiculous |
| 20:39.50 | Kraps | parts |
| 20:40.02 | amro | I liked the story, but I couldn't stand that crap so I never finished the game |
| 20:40.17 | Kraps | there are 3 endings |
| 20:40.30 | amro | I remember having to lower my graphics settings just so that it could recognize my inputs in time |
| 20:41.12 | *** join/#wowuidev cralor (n=cralor@c-98-216-219-153.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 20:47.08 | kd3 | damn it! tickbird hatchling |
| 20:47.51 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 20:48.10 | Fisker | Reins of the Green Proto-Drake? |
| 20:48.14 | kd3 | grr |
| 20:48.19 | kd3 | rgrrr |
| 20:48.41 | Fisker | you know what the funny part is? |
| 20:48.44 | Fisker | I was like |
| 20:48.50 | Fisker | "maybe i should try getting that mount again" |
| 20:48.55 | Fisker | Then i bought an egg |
| 20:48.57 | Ackis | and I was like |
| 20:49.00 | Ackis | STFU Fisker |
| 20:49.11 | Fisker | And then around an hour before i could open it one of my guildies were like "cool green proto drake" |
| 20:49.21 | Fisker | then an hour passed and i opened it and were like "cool green proto drake" |
| 20:49.34 | Fisker | atleast i didn't get it on my first egg Ackis :( |
| 20:49.55 | Fisker | robotusch |
| 20:49.58 | Fisker | i'm looking at you |
| 20:49.59 | Ackis | i never got it |
| 20:50.00 | Ackis | :P |
| 20:50.11 | Vangual | got mine on the very first aswell :) |
| 20:50.14 | Fisker | i don't want it until they make scaling mounts |
| 20:51.57 | zenzelezz | scales down Fisker's mounts |
| 20:53.00 | Fisker | descends upon zenzelezz... sexually |
| 20:53.16 | alestane | A question for the math folks...if I have c and x of a quadratic, how do I solve for a and b? |
| 20:53.27 | zenzelezz | fails to notice |
| 20:54.08 | Fisker | maybe if your penis was bigger zenzelezz |
| 20:54.37 | zenzelezz | no, you're already too tight |
| 20:54.52 | Fisker | and you can't feel it |
| 20:54.53 | Fisker | fail |
| 20:55.17 | zenzelezz | I'm used to more interesting challenges |
| 20:55.26 | Dagmar | alestane: You use algebra? |
| 20:57.40 | *** join/#wowuidev Dekster (n=chatzill@pool-71-108-10-65.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 20:57.40 | alestane | Some. I'm seeing if I can solve it now. |
| 20:58.31 | alestane | The question that has come up is, if something needs to be raised a fixed height in a given time, how do you set the downward acceleration and initial upward velocity to achieve that result? |
| 21:00.25 | alestane | (Usually in applications of d = a*t^2/2 + vi*t + di, a is a known constant.) |
| 21:02.28 | Shirik | alestane: calculus |
| 21:03.03 | Shirik | You know y(0) = 0 and y(t) = h |
| 21:03.30 | Shirik | From there, keep adding in constraints to solve what is just a differential equation |
| 21:04.11 | alestane | There are presumably an infinite number of combinations of vi and a which will satisfy those constraints, but being able to turn one into a function of the other would be useful. |
| 21:04.42 | alestane | Shirik: It has been roughly 15 years since I have had to solve a differential equation. |
| 21:05.48 | Shirik | correct, there are an infinite number of combinations! |
| 21:05.54 | Shirik | But you haven't given me enough information |
| 21:06.00 | Shirik | and that's why there are an infinite number of combinations |
| 21:06.12 | Shirik | Do you want constant acceleration? What about initial velocity? |
| 21:06.50 | Dagmar | elevated by the action of a 15lb sledge upon a simple lever |
| 21:07.30 | Dagmar | The lever being nothing fancy beyond being perfectly rigid, having no mass, and the pivot being in the middle |
| 21:07.33 | alestane | That's the only constraints the poser of the problem has supplied. a should be constant throughout. Any initial velocity and constant acceleration that satisfy t and h should be adequate, so being able to produce a formula a = f(vi) should be sufficient response. |
| 21:07.59 | Shirik | woah, if that's really the problem, then that's the wrong way of going about it |
| 21:08.04 | Shirik | (as Dagmar described) |
| 21:08.49 | Shirik | If that's the problem, then you're better off considering it a fully elastic collision. Determine the momentum (or kinetic energy) and fully transfer it to the other object |
| 21:08.58 | alestane | So that if they've selected a vi, they can determine the correct a. I'm thinking algebra should be sufficient. |
| 21:09.17 | Dagmar | Actually I was more counting on the amusingness of turning the whole thing into a classic Strongest Man carnival trick |
| 21:09.24 | Shirik | :/ |
| 21:09.30 | alestane | Shirik: There is no momentum. This is a problem for a Game Maker simulation. |
| 21:09.35 | Shirik | I'm so confused now |
| 21:09.47 | Kraps | http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/escapist-news-network/1097-Sorcerers-Demand-Equal-Rites |
| 21:10.01 | alestane | They can magically set the velocity and acceleration affecting the "object" in response to an event. |
| 21:10.23 | *** join/#wowuidev Dagmar (i=dagmar@c-98-193-180-167.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 21:10.45 | alestane | They know how high they want the sprite to "jump" when a key is pressed, and indeed they have made it jump that high, but they want it to do so faster. |
| 21:10.56 | Dagmar | Kraps: Terry Pratchett already did ALL of those jokes and then some, man |
| 21:11.00 | Shirik | ok ok |
| 21:11.12 | Shirik | sowe know the peak height, and we know there's a constant acceleration |
| 21:11.17 | Shirik | given a v or a, we want to solve the other one |
| 21:11.18 | Kraps | Dagmar: link or gtfo |
| 21:11.19 | Shirik | right? |
| 21:11.19 | alestane | So, we can say that in "0 = ax^2 + bx + c", c and x are known. |
| 21:11.31 | Dagmar | Kraps: Dude he named one of his books Equal Rites IIRC |
| 21:11.59 | Kraps | are there really elves in Global Agenda? |
| 21:12.00 | Shirik | you're thinking about this wrong, alestane, because this is a parametric equation, not a quadratic |
| 21:12.10 | alestane | Which actually means it should be as simple as solving the quadratic equation for either a or b in terms of the other three. |
| 21:12.16 | Shirik | x and y are not realted at all except by t |
| 21:12.28 | alestane | x == t. |
| 21:12.34 | Shirik | ok |
| 21:12.51 | Shirik | then what you have is a discreetly hidden differential equation |
| 21:12.54 | Fisker | slaps Shirik around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:13.13 | alestane | Let me rephrase. "0 = a/2*t^2 + vi*t + h" |
| 21:13.18 | Shirik | precisely |
| 21:13.23 | Shirik | and v == da/dt |
| 21:13.34 | Shirik | (the function, not the constant) |
| 21:13.36 | alestane | Which should make this much easier to solve than I thought. |
| 21:13.50 | Shirik | Here's where you start |
| 21:13.58 | Shirik | a(t) = ai, some constant |
| 21:14.25 | Shirik | v(t) = ait + c1. We can specify v(0) = c1 |
| 21:15.14 | Shirik | x(t) = ait^2/2 + c1t + c2. We can specify x(0) = 0 = c2 and x(tp) = h, where tp = time to reach max height |
| 21:15.23 | Shirik | And now you have a system of equations |
| 21:15.44 | Shirik | solve for c1 and a, and you have your answer |
| 21:15.50 | Shirik | c1 is vi, a is acceleration |
| 21:16.37 | alestane | Right, multiple unknowns solutions. |
| 21:16.49 | Shirik | hm |
| 21:16.51 | Shirik | ? |
| 21:17.20 | alestane | The sort of thing I was taught to do in course II or thereabouts and mostly forgot. |
| 21:18.09 | Shirik | Well you know x(tp) |
| 21:18.16 | Shirik | that's where you start |
| 21:18.18 | alestane | Take two relationships between two variables and however many constants and determine a relationship between the two variables. |
| 21:19.25 | Shirik | x(tp) = ait^2/2 + c1t --> x(tp) - ait^2/2 = c1t --> c1 = x(tp) - ait^2/2 |
| 21:20.34 | Shirik | Alternatively, x(tp) = ait^2/2 + c1t --> x(tp) - c1t = ait^2/2 --> 2x(tp) - 2c1t = ait^2 --> ai(2x(tp) - 2c1t) = t^2 |
| 21:20.44 | Shirik | whoops, take out that last part |
| 21:20.50 | alestane | Now I have to remember what's been defined as what at this point. |
| 21:21.06 | Shirik | (2x(tp) - 2c1t) / t^2 = ai |
| 21:21.20 | Shirik | Either you give the initial velocity or you give the acceleratio |
| 21:21.25 | Shirik | given that, the other can be solved for |
| 21:21.31 | alestane | That, I've discerned. |
| 21:21.44 | Shirik | and those are the two formulas |
| 21:22.19 | Shirik | interestingly, both have only one solution, not two like you originally thought |
| 21:23.04 | Shirik | btw s/t\b/tp/ for any ts in there |
| 21:23.38 | alestane | The last time I applied algebra was, ironically, to determine the number of points that have to be invested in Bane before Soul Fire becomes a more efficient conversion of casting time into damage than shadow bolt. |
| 21:23.57 | alestane | 4, btw. |
| 21:24.21 | alestane | Actually about 3.86 IIRC, but you can't invest 3.86 points in a talent. |
| 21:24.48 | Ackis | you could try |
| 21:25.43 | alestane | About as well as the average household having 2.58 children...gods help the poor schmuck who gets to be the .58. |
| 21:29.49 | *** join/#wowuidev brykrys (n=chatzill@WoWUIDev/Norganna/Dev/Brykrys) |
| 21:30.16 | Dagmar | alestane: Yeah, I've actually used WoW as a reason why this one teenage kid needs to know algebra well |
| 21:30.51 | Dagmar | Especially since it seems like WoW is the first place your average teenager might actually NEED to know Algebra, outside of "homework" |
| 21:32.45 | alestane | So I've arrived at your choice of "a = -2 (vi * t + D) / t ^ 2" or "vi = (a/2 * t^2 + D)/-t"...does that coincide with what Shirik derived? |
| 21:33.21 | alestane | Given D and t as constants, that should allow either a or vi to be expressed as a linear function of the other. |
| 21:33.31 | Shirik | what is D? |
| 21:33.39 | alestane | h. |
| 21:34.09 | Shirik | we got something different |
| 21:34.15 | Shirik | very close though |
| 21:34.36 | alestane | I originally phrased it as "D = a/2*t^2 + vi * t + d", but d was zero in all cases so I eliminated it. |
| 21:34.56 | Shirik | "c1 = x(tp) - ait^2/2" translated to your terms is vi = D - at^2/2 |
| 21:35.17 | Shirik | you got the at^2/2, but you added D and then divided by -t |
| 21:35.35 | Shirik | which is similar but not the same |
| 21:35.41 | Shirik | it does explain the negation perfectly, though |
| 21:35.54 | Shirik | so the question is where did t come from |
| 21:36.06 | Shirik | oh, I see, lol |
| 21:36.14 | Shirik | I just chucked it out the window |
| 21:36.25 | Kraps | http://www.cracked.com/photoshop_102_the-greatest-stories-ever-told-summed-up-via-infographic/?ref=email |
| 21:36.35 | Shirik | Yes it should be vi = (D - at^2 / 2) / t |
| 21:36.37 | alestane | Well, I started with "0 = a/2*t^2 + vi * t + D" and migrated that to "-vi * t = a/2*t^2 + D". |
| 21:36.38 | Shirik | which is the same as yours |
| 21:36.48 | alestane | Then I divided both sides by -t. |
| 21:38.25 | *** join/#wowuidev Cide (n=cide@c213-100-51-33.swipnet.se) |
| 21:38.25 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+v Cide] by ChanServ |
| 21:46.34 | *** join/#wowuidev Thunder_Child (n=Thunder_@adsl-71-130-222-196.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 21:46.39 | *** join/#wowuidev TC-Away (n=Thunder_@adsl-71-130-222-196.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 21:47.41 | TC-Away | hmm..i wonder how long untill i crash |
| 21:49.16 | Fisker | hey TC-Away |
| 21:49.24 | Fisker | you never answered my question Shirik! |
| 21:49.31 | TC-Away | hey Fisker |
| 21:49.55 | *** join/#wowuidev TC-Away (n=Thunder_@adsl-71-130-222-196.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 21:50.16 | Thunder_Child | .... |
| 21:50.17 | Thunder_Child | i hate you computer |
| 21:50.58 | Fisker | i hate your computer Thunder_Child |
| 21:51.24 | Thunder_Child | good, maybe that will make it find the 2GB of ram it seems to be missing |
| 21:52.22 | Thunder_Child | it's amazing, i can run @ 4.2GHz but i cant have more than 4GB of freakin ram installed |
| 21:52.43 | *** join/#wowuidev Norsken (n=xkxaxn@84-217-13-152.tn.glocalnet.net) |
| 21:54.32 | jnwhiteh | [1. General] Zulfiqar: Anyone that uses Clique + Grid, PST |
| 21:54.40 | kd3 | lol |
| 21:54.44 | Dagmar | Thunder_Child: 32-bit OS, right? |
| 21:54.49 | jnwhiteh | [1. General] Derwydd: I wrote Clique.. what do you need? |
| 21:56.35 | *** join/#wowuidev crs (n=crs@dslb-084-061-097-000.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 21:58.14 | jnwhiteh | Yay HTC Hero is getting 2.1 in a month! |
| 21:58.22 | zenzelezz | jnwhiteh: bastard :( |
| 21:58.31 | jnwhiteh | lol why? |
| 21:58.32 | Fisker | :o jnwhiteh |
| 21:58.43 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: you'll enjoy it, I promise! |
| 21:58.48 | Fisker | i disagree |
| 21:59.06 | jnwhiteh | i left 1.5 on it for now |
| 21:59.11 | jnwhiteh | figured you'd want the Sense UI |
| 21:59.18 | Fisker | :( |
| 21:59.20 | alestane | jnwhiteh: You're a lot more likely to run into random users of your add-ons than I am, mine are very niche-y. |
| 21:59.46 | jnwhiteh | yeah probably |
| 21:59.57 | Fisker | you wouldn't though jnwhiteh |
| 22:00.18 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 22:00.22 | jnwhiteh | i'd have already posted screenshots. |
| 22:00.25 | jnwhiteh | err |
| 22:00.26 | jnwhiteh | pictures |
| 22:00.28 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 22:00.55 | *** join/#wowuidev smcn (i=smcn@c-174-52-39-78.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 22:02.03 | zenzelezz | jnwhiteh: cause I've still not upgraded to a modern Android, running the dev phone... so I do not get 2.x as far as I know :-p Considering buying a Milestone |
| 22:02.17 | Fisker | nexus one! |
| 22:02.25 | jnwhiteh | the ADP2 gets 2.x soon |
| 22:02.28 | jnwhiteh | but not the ADP1 =/ |
| 22:06.55 | Fisker | plane landing in dkdkdk soon jnwhiteh :o |
| 22:10.25 | alestane | Does "vi = (a/2 * t^2 + D)/-t" not reduce to "vi = -at/2 - D/t" for some reason I don't see? |
| 22:11.32 | Legorol | alestane: yes it does, not much of a reduction though |
| 22:11.38 | Legorol | maybe slightly simpler way of writing it |
| 22:11.51 | Legorol | but the original encompasses the meaning better |
| 22:12.27 | alestane | I'm trying to produce a formula that some people who don't really grasp algebra can use. And I figured out where my discrepancy was coming form. |
| 22:12.29 | alestane | from* |
| 22:12.41 | zenzelezz | Fisker: Nexus One only has on-screen keyboard, doesn't it? |
| 22:13.03 | Fisker | yep |
| 22:14.20 | Nechckn | The droid OSKB is nice, works fairly well, but.. darn it, I should have opted for the model with the slide out kybd. |
| 22:14.53 | *** join/#wowuidev kdtresh (n=kdtresh@adsl-75-0-7-96.dsl.renocs.sbcglobal.net) |
| 22:15.07 | Nechckn | I have an evil tendency to change between single and dual thumb typing and that tends to get misunderstood, at times. |
| 22:15.52 | *** join/#wowuidev pompy1 (n=Mike@c-68-38-45-3.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 22:21.47 | *** join/#wowuidev Osagasu (n=Creek@67-197-1-37.rh1.dyn.cm.comporium.net) |
| 22:22.56 | *** part/#wowuidev alestane (n=Nevin@c-66-30-209-28.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 22:24.46 | kd3 | lmao. I'm in UP and the tank's using thunderfury |
| 22:27.51 | zenzelezz | sounds like a legendary run |
| 22:28.06 | Fisker | slaps kd3 around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:28.32 | zenzelezz | kd3: do you know what his DPS is? |
| 22:29.00 | kd3 | dunno. didn't really care as long as I didn't get anywhere near him on threat |
| 22:29.52 | ScytheBlade1 | hm, I need a good scanner |
| 22:29.58 | ScytheBlade1 | so I can shred all of these papers |
| 22:30.16 | zenzelezz | I think what you're looking for is a shredder |
| 22:30.24 | ScytheBlade1 | have one of those |
| 22:30.35 | zenzelezz | then you're all set |
| 22:31.14 | ScytheBlade1 | nah, still want a quality scanner |
| 22:31.20 | *** join/#wowuidev anesthesia (n=jamewc@68-118-5-053.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com) |
| 22:34.40 | ScytheBlade1 | eh that's pricey |
| 22:35.01 | zenzelezz | you want quality, it gets pricey |
| 22:35.06 | *** part/#wowuidev anesthesia (n=jamewc@68-118-5-053.dhcp.hlrg.nc.charter.com) |
| 22:35.48 | ScytheBlade1 | looks like a multifunction device may be my best bet |
| 22:35.50 | ScytheBlade1 | which frightens me |
| 22:36.31 | ScytheBlade1 | flatbed scanners suck for documents and document scanners are really pricey |
| 22:36.53 | zenzelezz | yeah, multifunction devices are like women... scary and unpredictable, and usually not wanting to do the same thing you do |
| 22:37.16 | ScytheBlade1 | http://www.newegg.com/Store/SubCategory.aspx?SubCategory=634&name=Scanner-Document-Scanners |
| 22:37.19 | ScytheBlade1 | all of which are overkill |
| 22:38.15 | Dagmar | If you just want to scan single pages, you can generally score such a printer for like $50-75 in a brick and mortar store |
| 22:38.35 | ScytheBlade1 | That's what I may end up doing |
| 22:38.38 | Dagmar | Scanning a bunch of pages with a page feeder, expect to spend munnies |
| 22:38.45 | ScytheBlade1 | yeah |
| 22:38.51 | Dagmar | I got this crazy Epson printer last month for $50 |
| 22:39.05 | zenzelezz | ScytheBlade1: find some friend whose workplace has an advanced scanner, exploit |
| 22:39.17 | Dagmar | Prints all the way to the edges, has a flatbed scanner on top, a cute little screen, and a USB port to plug printers into so you can use the screen to print 'em |
| 22:39.24 | ScytheBlade1 | zenzelezz: yeah tax related documents is not something I just want to scan in on some random network |
| 22:39.32 | Dagmar | I recommend the Aficio MP5000 |
| 22:39.56 | Dagmar | We've got three here. You can just shove a quarter-inch stack of papers in the feeder and have it email them all to you |
| 22:40.05 | zenzelezz | you kids these days |
| 22:40.13 | ScytheBlade1 | I also don't want to run elsewhere to scan in weekly paycheck stubs |
| 22:40.14 | zenzelezz | when I was young printers were LPT devices |
| 22:40.17 | ScytheBlade1 | Dagmar: little out of my price range. |
| 22:40.21 | Dagmar | Assuming you have gmail, of course. other email providers get a little upset about 300Mb of PDF files landing in you rinbox |
| 22:40.49 | Dagmar | ScytheBlade1: They *might* have one at a nearby Kinko's. It's throwing money at the problem but as a one-time fix it's not abominable. |
| 22:40.58 | ScytheBlade1 | one time.. a week |
| 22:41.00 | ScytheBlade1 | pretty painful |
| 22:41.04 | Dagmar | The PDF scans are LARGE |
| 22:41.18 | Dagmar | 600x600 uncompressed TIFF, wrappered in PDF. |
| 22:41.19 | *** join/#wowuidev Thunder_Child (n=Thunder_@adsl-71-130-222-196.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 22:41.30 | amro | any concurrent programming gurus around? |
| 22:41.30 | Fisker | slaps Dagmar around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:41.32 | zenzelezz | my workplace has some big HP thing... 4730 MFP or something. Pretty neat |
| 22:41.33 | ScytheBlade1 | re: large scans: get a better document scanner. At my previous job, we had fax machines that PDF'd everything that came in and e-mailed it to EVERYONE. |
| 22:41.35 | Fisker | you wouldn't |
| 22:41.37 | ScytheBlade1 | Handled it no problem |
| 22:41.52 | ScytheBlade1 | Each fax was easily <1MB, even the.... lengthy ones |
| 22:41.58 | Fisker | we had a nice custom solution |
| 22:42.14 | ScytheBlade1 | did it involve your mom? |
| 22:42.18 | Fisker | didn't work, apparently used unlicensed (i.e. pirated) outdated software and cost a lot |
| 22:42.19 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 22:42.19 | ScytheBlade1 | ohohohoh |
| 22:42.28 | kd3 | oh those are fun |
| 22:42.32 | Dagmar | ScytheBlade1: Yeah they were probably in fax format, which is pretty low res |
| 22:42.46 | ScytheBlade1 | Dagmar: no, they were pretty high res. |
| 22:43.12 | ScytheBlade1 | I *strongly* suspect your scanner is doing something funky |
| 22:43.53 | *** join/#wowuidev foxlit (n=foxlit@0x573e6bae.alb2nxx18.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) |
| 22:45.27 | Adys | About backups |
| 22:45.27 | Adys | Photos of my children: Not important. If I need more baby photos, I can just have more babies. |
| 22:45.48 | foxlit | Awesome. "touch foo.flv" and my screen goes black :/ |
| 22:46.25 | ScytheBlade1 | foxlit: quit breaking it |
| 22:46.47 | foxlit | I should whine at Perian |
| 22:46.55 | foxlit | But first, I might have to update. |
| 22:47.04 | zenzelezz | didn't your mom ever tell you if you kept touching it you'd go blind? |
| 22:48.31 | foxlit | And updating fixed it. |
| 22:58.44 | Teomyr | http://www.thelocal.de/national/20100114-24577.html |
| 22:58.48 | Teomyr | the tram crash i mentioned earlier this day |
| 22:59.45 | kd3 | eesh |
| 23:00.17 | Teomyr | still scared about the thought that, if it weren't for being late by half a minute two tram stations ahead, i would have been on that tram |
| 23:02.40 | *** join/#wowuidev Zyn (n=zyn@h243n2-av-a11.ias.bredband.telia.com) |
| 23:02.54 | *** join/#wowuidev stolenlegacy (n=stolenle@d86-33-159-72.cust.tele2.at) |
| 23:04.14 | durcyn | oh, cool: http://www.xconomy.com/boston/2010/01/13/prysm-hopes-laser-driven-screens-will-outshine-lcd-led-displays/ |
| 23:04.18 | WobWork | @FakeAPStylebook   "Twilight Mom" - a woman above age forty who masturbates to descriptions of teenagers not having sex. |
| 23:04.49 | zenzelezz | O_o |
| 23:05.11 | Fisker | cool yourself durcyn |
| 23:06.06 | durcyn | you're cool, Fisker |
| 23:09.20 | Lunessa | WobWork: LOL. |
| 23:09.57 | Lunessa | Just earlier I said "Meh. I just want stories that don't turn into "oh god, oh god, oh god, I'm so damned. I'm so in love and conflicted. I'm so evil and you're so pure" porn." About Twilight and other recent vampire stories. |
| 23:16.02 | WobWork | I think vampire stories, by default fall into that category |
| 23:16.17 | WobWork | except maybe SG:A |
| 23:16.28 | WobWork | since they don't mack on the Wraith |
| 23:16.34 | WobWork | cause that would be creepy |
| 23:18.59 | zenzelezz | Stargate: Atlantis was about vampires? |
| 23:19.05 | tekkub | yes |
| 23:19.13 | tekkub | but then they kinda lost interest in them |
| 23:20.27 | WobWork | well you have ugly monsters |
| 23:20.30 | WobWork | that suck out life force |
| 23:20.39 | WobWork | that's the definition of vampires, right? |
| 23:20.46 | WobWork | (PS, Edward is ugly) |
| 23:25.04 | Nechckn | WobWork Never thought of it that way, but, indeed! |
| 23:25.45 | Nechckn | SG:U is "odd" will have to see what is up when it continues. |
| 23:25.55 | Fisker | We are still planning to add the strength ring in the next minor content patch. |
| 23:25.55 | Lunessa | WobWork: I've seen some other really good vampire stuff that wasn't about sexual frustration. |
| 23:25.56 | Fisker | yayaya |
| 23:26.04 | Nechckn | Was not overly impressed, but need to watch some form of space SciFi or I twitch! |
| 23:26.46 | Fisker | their good episodes are pretty good, i'd say better than anything before |
| 23:26.58 | Fisker | But unfortunately their bad episodes are notoriously bad as well :( |
| 23:27.33 | Nechckn | Oh.. and V, too... that is on hold as well. Interested to see which direction that goes at startup. |
| 23:28.02 | Nechckn | Supposedly there was some re-engineering that makes it take a bit of a different path. |
| 23:29.03 | WobWork | Lunessa: those tend to hide the vampires better =P |
| 23:29.24 | Kraps | the human special attack looks much cooler in slo-mo |
| 23:29.37 | Lunessa | WobWork: I read one, for example, that was a vampire searching for humans after nuclear war. He needed breeding stock. :) |
| 23:30.36 | WobWork | I'm burnt out somewhat on the vampire genre |
| 23:31.13 | Fisker | time for some time traveling |
| 23:31.15 | Fisker | bai bai WobWork |
| 23:31.20 | Nechckn | Lunessa there is that movie coming out pretty soon about that sort of thing. The vamps have humans as "blood factories" or something |
| 23:31.26 | WobWork | see you in the past, Fisker |
| 23:31.32 | Fisker | nooo |
| 23:31.34 | Fisker | future! |
| 23:31.35 | WobWork | that daybreakers thing? |
| 23:31.40 | Lunessa | Nechckn: HAWT |
| 23:31.42 | WobWork | Your future |
| 23:31.44 | WobWork | My past |
| 23:31.48 | Nechckn | Oh.. duh.. yeah.. that's it |
| 23:32.02 | WobWork | even with that it's all about 'zomg redemption' |
| 23:32.11 | Fisker | don't you timezone on me |
| 23:32.23 | WobWork | but it's cool in that it treats vampirism as a common thing |
| 23:33.12 | WobWork | and to be honest, 'blood factories' are a lot more feasible than 'energy batteries' the Matrix had |
| 23:33.22 | Lunessa | WobWork: Redemption is a pretty consistent meme in fiction of all kinds. |
| 23:33.37 | WobWork | Lunessa: well it has to have a happy ending |
| 23:33.40 | WobWork | it's a hollywood movie |
| 23:34.09 | Lunessa | Ya. |
| 23:34.16 | Lunessa | Time for me to pumpkin. TTFN |
| 23:39.14 | *** join/#wowuidev mitchnull (n=mitchnul@catv3EC944A1.pool.t-online.hu) |
| 23:43.12 | cbreak | sounds like matrix |
| 23:43.18 | cbreak | just with blood instead of bio electricity |
| 23:44.31 | WobWork | cbreak: see above |
| 23:49.41 | *** join/#wowuidev jacobeiting (n=jacobeit@cpe-75-187-56-220.columbus.res.rr.com) |
| 23:52.00 | *** join/#wowuidev kraft (n=kraft_@cpc2-cwma7-2-0-cust130.7-3.cable.virginmedia.com) |
