| 00:00.56 | Grum | NightHawkTheSane: mmm and with colors? well a black hole usually pulls so black would be an option |
| 00:01.14 | Grum | anything bright could be linked with an explosion which would push, so dunno, 'explosion color' ? |
| 00:01.31 | NightHawkTheSane | Grum: i want to differentiate between them by making them different colors. So the players have a hope of figuring it out :P |
| 00:01.43 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: YOU FACE JARAXXUS |
| 00:02.01 | Stanzilla | eredar lord of the burning legion? |
| 00:02.05 | Grum | NightHawkTheSane: black/(dark) purple for pull and an explosion color for push? |
| 00:02.08 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: http://www.youtube.com/user/MrVoletron#p/u/2/MkeC9WVVsQ4 |
| 00:02.30 | Cloudwolf | cbreak how exactly does while name in that situation work or is it because UnitAura is returning a table? |
| 00:02.32 | NightHawkTheSane | hm, nota bad idea. |
| 00:02.38 | Stanzilla | Gnarfoz: oh wth |
| 00:02.45 | cbreak | Cloudwolf: it's not returning a table |
| 00:02.50 | Gnarfoz | Stanzilla: he's good at it, it's amazing |
| 00:02.51 | Gnarfoz | ;D |
| 00:02.55 | cbreak | it's returning many things, among them a name |
| 00:03.00 | cbreak | the name is either a string, or nil |
| 00:03.06 | cbreak | if it's nil, it's false, the loop stops |
| 00:03.28 | Fisker | Gnarfoz |
| 00:03.28 | Fisker | help me |
| 00:03.29 | cbreak | if it's a string, you do what you wanted to do, then increment your counter, get the values for the next debuff, and the loop starts again with the conditional |
| 00:03.30 | Cloudwolf | so wait are you saying put a while inside of my for loop? |
| 00:03.38 | cbreak | ... |
| 00:03.38 | cbreak | no |
| 00:03.43 | cbreak | instead of the for loop |
| 00:04.12 | cbreak | if you don't get it, doesn't matter much. For loop works too. Will just be slower. |
| 00:04.37 | cbreak | because maybe 35 of the 40 iterations you usually do are wasted |
| 00:04.52 | Adys | Fisker |
| 00:04.57 | Adys | "The image turned out to be a big fake" |
| 00:05.21 | Cloudwolf | can a whiel loop register variables inside of itself to check for a condition to stop? |
| 00:05.25 | Fisker | what image? :D |
| 00:05.30 | Adys | guess! |
| 00:05.45 | Fisker | if you're talking about the cataclysm dvd then that's yesterdays news :( |
| 00:05.50 | Adys | yeah it is |
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| 00:06.46 | Fisker | land you damn plane! |
| 00:07.05 | xqo | Hi! |
| 00:07.15 | Fisker | think i'll timetravel aproximately 8 hours |
| 00:07.17 | Cloudwolf | ^run local bob ="hi" while bob do print(bob) bob=nil end |
| 00:07.18 | Fisker | night |
| 00:07.25 | Cloudwolf | or thats not lua bot lol |
| 00:07.34 | cbreak | > |
| 00:07.43 | Cloudwolf | >run local bob ="hi" while bob do print(bob) bob=nil end |
| 00:07.54 | Cloudwolf | err wow if eel dumb |
| 00:07.58 | cbreak | lua> print("hi there") |
| 00:07.58 | lua_bot | cbreak: hi there |
| 00:07.59 | Cloudwolf | >lua local bob ="hi" while bob do print(bob) bob=nil end |
| 00:08.05 | Cloudwolf | and i still fel dumb :D |
| 00:08.16 | Cloudwolf | lua> local bob ="hi" while bob do print(bob) bob=nil end |
| 00:08.16 | lua_bot | Cloudwolf: hi |
| 00:08.51 | Gnarfoz | Fisker: you are beyond help |
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| 00:11.37 | Kraps | Carbonite Backup is expensive |
| 00:13.18 | cbreak | I paid about 50⬠for an external (USB) SATA case. I can put hard disks in and out like other people CDs or tapes. |
| 00:13.42 | cbreak | very nice for backups |
| 00:14.26 | Cloudwolf | sounds helpful |
| 00:14.52 | cbreak | there were cheaper versions for about 25⬠or so. |
| 00:15.12 | alestane | Hot-swappable is worth some extra cash. |
| 00:15.26 | cbreak | I have to turn off the case to swap the hard disks |
| 00:15.57 | alestane | Ah. I thin kI can get one like that for about $30US. |
| 00:16.07 | cbreak | but the for the computer it appears transparent |
| 00:16.16 | cbreak | I think it's good |
| 00:16.29 | cbreak | to turn off the drive before removing it in any case :) |
| 00:16.35 | alestane | USB enclosures are genereally useful things whether they're hot-swappable or not. |
| 00:17.28 | cbreak | I think it would classify as hotswappable, because you have to unmount the volumes anyway, so turning off the device is not much of a change. |
| 00:19.34 | Cloudwolf | well i just borke my addon again |
| 00:19.35 | Cloudwolf | XD |
| 00:19.45 | Cloudwolf | using a while loop broke it |
| 00:20.14 | cbreak | using it WRONG broke it :) |
| 00:20.51 | Cloudwolf | well i even made sure that the name that its checking isn't nil before it even starts |
| 00:21.04 | cbreak | no need |
| 00:21.15 | cbreak | you don't want it to execute when it's nil, right? |
| 00:21.19 | Cloudwolf | i thinkt he problem is because im using k and i have no k any more |
| 00:21.28 | cbreak | (when it's nil at the start, you have no debuff, so nothing to do) |
| 00:21.30 | Cloudwolf | i mean i defined it before the whiel loop |
| 00:21.39 | Cloudwolf | so it didn't instantly go NIL oh look stop |
| 00:21.52 | Cloudwolf | the issue im sure is that i have UnitAura(arg1, k , "HARMFUL") |
| 00:21.55 | Cloudwolf | and k is nothing atm |
| 00:21.59 | cbreak | ... |
| 00:22.03 | Jerub | http://tinyurl.com/bigpondtruth |
| 00:22.09 | Cloudwolf | !api UnitAura |
| 00:22.09 | lua_bot | UnitAura: Returns information about buffs/debuffs on a unit (http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api/UnitAura) |
| 00:22.11 | cbreak | of course you have to manage your counter |
| 00:22.33 | cbreak | start at 1, increment when needed |
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| 00:23.10 | Cloudwolf | :P yeah i just figured that out lols tyring it now |
| 00:23.41 | Jerub | Cloudwolf: you're not on dath'remar are you? |
| 00:23.50 | Cloudwolf | no |
| 00:23.53 | Cloudwolf | why? |
| 00:23.59 | Cloudwolf | i'm also not the guy who made that blog |
| 00:24.06 | Jerub | there's a guy who uses could in his name on my server. |
| 00:24.10 | Jerub | .. cloud |
| 00:24.19 | Jerub | cloud in his name. |
| 00:24.30 | Cloudwolf | I have like 1 character with cloud actualy in his name. |
| 00:24.39 | Jerub | just checking :) |
| 00:24.46 | Cloudwolf | Well even incrimenting it fails GAH why is it failing |
| 00:25.09 | cogwheel | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7Lf8kJ6Lng |
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| 00:27.47 | Cloudwolf | ok well hmm the while loop isn't even running one time O.o |
| 00:28.14 | cbreak | do you have a debuff? |
| 00:28.31 | Cloudwolf | it works when my party members get debuffs also |
| 00:28.35 | Cloudwolf | so im testing it on some one else |
| 00:29.01 | cbreak | then you did it wrong :) |
| 00:29.05 | Cloudwolf | ok well that was the reason the loop wasn't runny AT ALL |
| 00:29.17 | Cloudwolf | it was going lol this variable starts as nil so it doesn't even start |
| 00:29.45 | Cloudwolf | and now im getting curdebuf[uname][bname] = true unable to index field ? |
| 00:29.49 | Cloudwolf | a nil value hmm |
| 00:30.23 | cbreak | bname? |
| 00:30.31 | Cloudwolf | i renamed name |
| 00:30.41 | Cloudwolf | in all acocutns that i use it |
| 00:30.52 | cbreak | what is the name of the debuff? |
| 00:30.57 | Cloudwolf | because i kept getting an error with another addon for no good reason. |
| 00:31.02 | Cloudwolf | the debuff its sap |
| 00:31.29 | cbreak | no good reason? You don't think you're the only one who uses a variable named "name" :) |
| 00:31.40 | cbreak | and uname? |
| 00:31.52 | cbreak | and did you put a table into curdebuf[uname]? |
| 00:31.54 | Cloudwolf | well considering i made them locals |
| 00:32.07 | Cloudwolf | local curdebuf ={["player"]={}, ["party 1"]={},["party 2"]={}, ["party 3"]={}, ["party 4"]={}} |
| 00:32.22 | Cloudwolf | here ill just update pastey with my horribly indented code |
| 00:32.22 | cbreak | I don't think |
| 00:32.26 | cbreak | that you'll ever find anyone |
| 00:32.30 | cbreak | that is called party 2 |
| 00:32.33 | alestane | I think it's a little bit runnier than you like it, sir. |
| 00:32.36 | Cloudwolf | im using arguments |
| 00:32.37 | cbreak | since spaces in names are not allowed |
| 00:32.59 | Cloudwolf | although hmm... |
| 00:33.03 | Cloudwolf | god coding whiel tired is not good |
| 00:33.41 | Cloudwolf | yeah wow |
| 00:33.46 | Fisker | 1/13/2010 12:06 amTransit through DHL facility East Midlands, United Kingdom |
| 00:33.46 | Cloudwolf | im relay realy out of it today |
| 00:33.47 | Fisker | moooooooooooooooar |
| 00:34.42 | Cloudwolf | well i fixed what i thought was a problem and now still huzzah not working :D |
| 00:35.30 | Cloudwolf | curdebuf[arg1][bname] = true doing that which i thought woudl make sense doens't help XD |
| 00:35.37 | Shirik | what does it mean if the xbox controller starts spazzing out? |
| 00:35.47 | Cloudwolf | youve played too much? :D |
| 00:35.48 | cbreak | Cloudwolf: as I said before |
| 00:35.49 | Shirik | the lights on it look like that Mac OS "working" symbol; |
| 00:36.04 | Shirik | like 2 lights on, opposite sides, spinning |
| 00:36.07 | Cide- | an xbox thinking it's a mac? this cannot be good |
| 00:36.08 | cbreak | how likely do you think is the occurence of a space in a unit string? |
| 00:36.19 | foxlit | Cide-: a sign of the apocalypse, surely. |
| 00:36.20 | Cloudwolf | arg1 isn't a name any more |
| 00:36.24 | cbreak | so? |
| 00:36.31 | cbreak | unit strings don't contain spaces either |
| 00:36.35 | foxlit | Cloudwolf: wait, what? |
| 00:37.02 | Shirik | maybe it means batteries are almost dead? |
| 00:37.27 | Cloudwolf | its lovely not paying any attention to my own code >.< |
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| 00:37.55 | cbreak | that's where green tea, proper indenting and descriptive names help :) |
| 00:38.46 | Cloudwolf | This is where not having a cold thats makes me almost literaly impossible to focus on anything woudl help to not have |
| 00:39.43 | Cloudwolf | rofl and the guy i was having help test me just died and wetn offline O.o |
| 00:39.51 | Cloudwolf | stupid goldshire being under attack lol |
| 00:40.22 | cbreak | just get yourself some whimpy mobs |
| 00:40.26 | cbreak | that cast debuffs |
| 00:40.55 | cbreak | what class are you? |
| 00:41.10 | Cloudwolf | rogue |
| 00:41.30 | cbreak | hmm. don't know. |
| 00:41.42 | cbreak | some other classes can debuff themselves |
| 00:41.46 | kd3 | damn you gretta the arbiter |
| 00:41.47 | kd3 | gimme the damn mount |
| 00:41.50 | cbreak | mages, paladins, priests |
| 00:42.04 | foxlit | kd3: one in a meeeeelion drop rate? |
| 00:42.10 | kd3 | yar |
| 00:42.16 | kd3 | I still don't have the mount from the oracles yet either |
| 00:42.22 | kd3 | curses his luck |
| 00:52.29 | Cloudwolf | cbreak ty for all the help and sorry for being bad at this lol |
| 00:52.38 | cbreak | np |
| 00:52.42 | Kraps | http://www.massively.com/2010/01/08/rumor-blizzards-next-mmo-to-be-an-mmofps/ |
| 00:53.20 | cbreak | StarCraft: Ghost? |
| 00:53.41 | Lopeppeppy | Mmm, ghost... |
| 00:54.42 | Kraps | cbreak: well, it'll be a new IP |
| 00:54.52 | cbreak | IPv6? |
| 00:55.12 | cbreak | I am not convinced blizzard has any new ideas |
| 00:55.23 | cbreak | they sell about three things since years |
| 00:56.04 | Jerub | blizzard has made under a dozen games. |
| 00:56.06 | Jerub | sure. |
| 00:56.08 | Jerub | er surely. |
| 00:56.34 | Jerub | it's like, warcraft 1+2, starcraft, diablo 1+2, wow, and that vikings game. |
| 00:56.44 | cbreak | GENERIC_FANTASY warcraft, GENERIC_SCI_FI starcraft, and ... diablo? :) |
| 00:56.55 | Jerub | you can get up to a dozen if you include all those expansions |
| 00:56.57 | Thunder_Child | there were others |
| 00:57.04 | Thunder_Child | old school games |
| 00:57.07 | Lopeppeppy | Diablo becomes the new race for Starcraft? |
| 00:58.39 | Kraps | hey i found Lopeppeppy's youtube channel! http://www.youtube.com/user/ExplorerPeppy |
| 00:58.44 | Kraps | :p |
| 00:59.09 | Lopeppeppy | *grin* |
| 01:00.08 | Thunder_Child | isnt that Fiskers job to stalk peppy? |
| 01:00.34 | Lopeppeppy | He gave up, it's too cold on my porch. |
| 01:00.58 | Adys | Shirik: are you on |
| 01:01.03 | Adys | Shirik: are you here, my love |
| 01:01.05 | Adys | I miss you so much |
| 01:01.10 | Adys | I want you, I need you right now |
| 01:01.19 | Adys | also amro told me to tell you that you need to get on msn |
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| 01:01.31 | Shirik | amro needs to stop being a noob because I am on msn |
| 01:01.47 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: i must not be a very good stalker, i just found a vid in that channel in my recommendeds |
| 01:01.53 | Adys | Shirik: send him a msg or something |
| 01:01.56 | Adys | connection issues |
| 01:02.09 | Adys | and wtf are you doing with msn anyway? |
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| 01:02.12 | Lopeppeppy | *giggle snort* |
| 01:02.13 | Adys | use xmpp or some shit |
| 01:02.43 | Shirik | canadaackis is online |
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| 01:04.07 | myrkraverk | when I get a message that an interface action failed by an addon, does the taintlog tell me when/why? |
| 01:05.28 | myrkraverk | of course, I only turned it on once I got the message |
| 01:06.21 | Kraps | why the FUCK do people review books they havent read? http://www.amazon.com/World-Warcraft-Philosophy-Popular-Culture/product-reviews/0812696735/ref=cm_cr_dp_hist_3?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&filterBy=addThreeStar |
| 01:06.37 | Dagmar | Because parents don't beat their kids anymore. |
| 01:06.47 | Mikk | hehe |
| 01:06.51 | myrkraverk | not even in world of warcraft |
| 01:07.02 | Mikk | this is teh age of teh interweb |
| 01:07.07 | Mikk | everyone is entitled to an opinion |
| 01:07.12 | Mikk | doesnt matter if they dont know shit |
| 01:10.10 | Dagmar | If there were more fatal beatings, the shallow end of the gene pool would make less noise. |
| 01:10.50 | Cloudwolf | Now we need a pin saying "I support the excessive beating of retarded children." |
| 01:11.34 | Cloudwolf | Although I think I would end up getting beaten in the process... |
| 01:15.42 | Dagmar | "Help make the world a better place - BEAT YOUR CHILDREN" |
| 01:16.54 | Adys | So yeah |
| 01:17.19 | Adys | there's this DungeonEncounter.dbc that lists all the instance encounters in game (5, 10, 20, 25 and 40 man) |
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| 01:18.24 | Adys | theres a boss_index column which, 0-indexed, lists the boss index in the instance (Lucifron 0, Magmadar 1, Gehennas 2, ...) |
| 01:18.52 | Adys | If you order descending by this column, who's on top? |
| 01:18.59 | Adys | 18 - Emperor Dagran Thaurissan - Blackrock Depths |
| 01:19.46 | Adys | thats the definition of nuts |
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| 01:22.48 | Gnarfoz | Adys: you're pointing out the fact that BRD is a fucking maze with a shitton of bosses? |
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| 01:22.57 | Ancu | ~seen zorbathut |
| 01:22.59 | purl | zorbathut is currently on #wowuidev (1d 22h 13m 27s). Has said a total of 92 messages. Is idling for 21h 36m 53s, last said: 'not really. even if I were to send you the code you'd need to spend five or ten bucks in amazon s3 bandwidth to grab all the source data, and then it's about a 12-hour process on a quad-core box to actually do a build ;)'. |
| 01:23.43 | Jerub | i'm sorry, killed and ate him. |
| 01:23.52 | Ancu | lol |
| 01:23.54 | Jerub | but if you get cold, i can lend you a warm zorba-wrap. |
| 01:23.56 | Lopeppeppy | nom nom no. |
| 01:25.27 | Gnarfoz | http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-approach-to-china.html is amazing |
| 01:25.57 | Dagmar | It was only a matter of time |
| 01:26.13 | Dagmar | China has a serious ethniocentrism issue |
| 01:26.45 | Dagmar | Hence all the "Intellectual property rights? We LOVE your intellectual property, right!" issues from there |
| 01:27.16 | Adys | I was tabbing here to paste that Gnarfoz ya |
| 01:27.21 | Dagmar | The whole "We're China, so eff you" approach was bound to conflict with Google's "Don't Be Evil" rule eventually. |
| 01:27.29 | Adys | and lol at all the backlinsk |
| 01:27.53 | Gnarfoz | also http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2010/01/adobe_investigates_corporate_n.html |
| 01:28.00 | Gnarfoz | (same attacks probably) |
| 01:31.22 | ZorbaTHut | what what |
| 01:32.11 | Kraps | Shirik: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_sysops |
| 01:32.32 | Shirik | ctrl+f shirik |
| 01:32.51 | Shirik | oh that's not the vote page |
| 01:32.51 | Shirik | http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_sysops/Vote |
| 01:32.55 | Shirik | ctrl+f shirik :P |
| 01:33.37 | Kraps | oh i see |
| 01:34.18 | Kraps | supports far outweighs opposes |
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| 01:34.36 | Shirik | I don't really understand the opposes |
| 01:35.00 | Ancu | Hey zorba, so refresh my memory, when where you planing to have the find quest thing acknowledge class? |
| 01:35.07 | Ancu | I know we talked about it |
| 01:35.20 | Ancu | but I cant remember what you had said |
| 01:36.13 | Kraps | Shirik: most seem to be in the vein of "theres too much hierarchy" |
| 01:36.22 | Kraps | is currently listening to Theory Of A Deadman - Hate My Life |
| 01:36.24 | ZorbaTHut | ancu, turns out I wasn't gathering the data I thought it was. So . . . a few months, at least :P |
| 01:36.42 | Ancu | lol, okay |
| 01:37.06 | Kraps | s/"/already"/ |
| 01:37.13 | Kraps | doh |
| 01:37.21 | Shirik | yeah but they're all from people that are on enwiki or something |
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| 01:43.05 | Ancu | lua> 0.1+0.1+0.1 == 0.3 |
| 01:43.06 | lua_bot | Ancu: false |
| 01:43.09 | Ancu | lol |
| 01:43.22 | Tuller | lua> 0.1 + 0.1 + 0.3 == 0.3 |
| 01:43.22 | lua_bot | Tuller: false |
| 01:43.31 | Tuller | so not precedence, then floating point |
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| 01:45.00 | Ancu | I just popped into the wowace channel, and thats what they where talking about |
| 01:48.23 | Ancu | Wonder if I should have opened another window with a similar topic, gona be confusing keeping things separate/ |
| 01:53.46 | WobWork | gah |
| 01:53.55 | WobWork | the TIL thread on Reddit is the -worst- time waster ever |
| 01:54.02 | WobWork | (educational, however...) |
| 01:58.27 | tem | oh wow |
| 01:58.34 | tem | a guy in my guild just got Insane in the Membrane |
| 01:58.40 | Ancu | lol |
| 01:58.44 | Ancu | how so? |
| 01:58.45 | Jerub | tem: man, that's insane. |
| 01:58.51 | Jerub | Ancu: it's an achievement. |
| 01:58.55 | Jerub | tem: was he a rogue? |
| 01:59.05 | Ancu | Oh, that, lol |
| 01:59.11 | Ancu | that is insane |
| 01:59.42 | Jerub | the last time i raided goldshire one of the alliance toons had 'the insane' title. i waited till my timer expired, ressed, bowed to her, and hearthed. |
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| 02:00.23 | taurdoc | is there a LUA function to get power color? ( energy, rage, mana, etc ) |
| 02:07.40 | Duman | you can get the type... UnitPowerType() |
| 02:07.50 | taurdoc | yeah, i have the type, just need the color |
| 02:08.31 | tem | store it yourself |
| 02:08.36 | Duman | well, since you have to enum the types, just assign them each a color? I'm not sure there is a function to get the blizzard-ui-assigned colors... |
| 02:08.53 | taurdoc | ok, that's what i was asking |
| 02:11.01 | Ancu | taurdoc: I ask over at wow ace: |
| 02:11.01 | Ancu | (21:09:58) Shefki: UnitPowerType() |
| 02:11.01 | Ancu | (21:10:05) Shefki: The last three returns are the color values. |
| 02:11.01 | Ancu | (21:10:10) Ingelagr: Ancu, http://wowprogramming.com/docs/api |
| 02:11.01 | Ancu | (21:10:14) Shefki: Or you can use the table Blizzard has in the game. |
| 02:11.01 | Thunder_Child | also it's Lua, not LUA |
| 02:11.46 | taurdoc | i'm a bit new to Lua and the api, how do i access the blizzard table? |
| 02:11.54 | Jerub | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/22418946194-separate-cities-in-cata.html |
| 02:12.01 | Jerub | blue: "I thought we were removing gnomes in Cataclysm. I'll have to double-check my sources. :p " |
| 02:12.35 | taurdoc | or what's the name of the table |
| 02:13.12 | Ancu | why not type /join #wowace and ask for your self, :P |
| 02:13.18 | taurdoc | ok thanks |
| 02:15.10 | Shirik | icu Ackis |
| 02:15.23 | WobWork | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Rankin |
| 02:15.25 | WobWork | hardcore |
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| 02:27.01 | WobWork | aaaa..Antiarc... |
| 02:27.10 | WobWork | your webpage has gained sentinence and is following me on twitter... |
| 02:27.19 | WobWork | is slightly creeped out =P |
| 02:28.06 | Antiarc | Yeah, I followed from the wrong account :P |
| 02:28.14 | Antiarc | I didn't realize I was already followinf you |
| 02:28.29 | Antiarc | And TweetDeck said "oh hey, there's only one account here that isn't following him, yay follow tiems" |
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| 02:54.34 | Jerub | so is new voa boss out yet? |
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| 02:59.36 | Stanzilla | no |
| 03:00.46 | tem | you know |
| 03:00.50 | tem | I really like ICC |
| 03:00.57 | tem | it moves fast once you know it |
| 03:01.23 | tem | it took us just under 2h to kill everything |
| 03:01.29 | Jerub | tem: for me the most motion is between the graveyard and marrowgar. |
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| 03:05.19 | Shirik | rofl... |
| 03:05.21 | Shirik | http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/faq/?faqID=21 |
| 03:05.43 | Jerub | i thought the new voa boss was supposed to be released today? |
| 03:05.48 | Jerub | when's new arena season? |
| 03:05.56 | kd3 | next week? |
| 03:06.43 | Jerub | ah |
| 03:06.44 | Jerub | okay. |
| 03:06.49 | Jerub | i'm a week early. |
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| 03:14.26 | tem | woot santified helm |
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| 03:14.58 | Kraps | anyone here play indigo prophecy? |
| 03:15.31 | Jerub | should i ignore the belt and go straight for T10 kit? |
| 03:15.45 | Jerub | or should i wait until i have cloak+belt+idol (I've got cloak+idol already) |
| 03:15.45 | tem | you know |
| 03:15.51 | tem | I really _like_ Putricide |
| 03:16.59 | Kraps | i think i'm stuck, lucas' mental state is so low that the next scene lowers it to empty and the game is over |
| 03:18.20 | Jerub | Kraps: up up down down left right left right a b ? |
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| 03:18.32 | Kraps | come on |
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| 03:22.10 | *** mode/#wowuidev [+o Iriel] by ChanServ |
| 03:22.47 | Iriel | I dont suppose anyone here has a high level (65+) alliance mage on Silver Hand? |
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| 03:30.06 | Kraps | nvm i got it :) |
| 03:31.18 | Jerub | Iriel: need a port? :P |
| 03:31.34 | Iriel | Yes 8-) |
| 03:32.28 | Iriel | Or more specifically, one of my lowbie characters does |
| 03:35.08 | Kraps | http://notalwaysright.com/economy-class-is-now-in-session/3792 |
| 03:35.21 | Jerub | the thing that shits me about penny arcade is when they refer to recent video games and specific things inside those video games, without mentioning the specific game title. |
| 03:35.59 | Dagmar | "She doesn.t get it until I explain that that is why we have night and day." |
| 03:36.05 | Dagmar | I'd have been in HR over that one |
| 03:36.36 | Jerub | Dagmar: as in, reprimanded? or summoned to explain tiemzones by HR morons |
| 03:36.53 | Dagmar | If it were both I'd hand in my resignation |
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| 03:37.24 | Jerub | well, you'd be in the right place for it. |
| 03:37.34 | Gnarfoz | <Jerub> i'm a week early. <-- two |
| 03:37.42 | Jerub | Gnarfoz: sigh |
| 03:37.49 | Jerub | thanks |
| 03:37.50 | Gnarfoz | season ends next week, right? |
| 03:37.54 | Jerub | dunno!? |
| 03:38.02 | Gnarfoz | so a week for rewards and then the next season starts ;O |
| 03:38.07 | Jerub | sigh |
| 03:38.35 | Gnarfoz | http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/22418852282-end-of-arena-season-7-coming-soon.html |
| 03:38.49 | Dagmar | In theory we'll be able to buy last season's gear without a rating now, right? |
| 03:39.12 | Jerub | i need to save up my honor and get a restokin set |
| 03:39.30 | Dagmar | I still have 47k after buying that signpost |
| 03:39.40 | Dagmar | I was suprised to see something I'd like in there at all |
| 03:40.21 | Dagmar | The stuff piles up almost as badly as stonekeeper's shards do |
| 03:41.41 | Jerub | yeah |
| 03:41.51 | Jerub | but at least stonekeepers shards can go to honor |
| 03:41.54 | Jerub | (and honor can go to gems) |
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| 03:45.42 | Dagmar | My guild leader hit 1,000 shards last night |
| 03:45.45 | Dagmar | I |
| 03:45.49 | Dagmar | I'm right behind him. |
| 03:46.09 | Dagmar | Neither one of us PvP much, but we'll still be running around in Cata decked out in PvP heirloom gear just because it's funny |
| 03:47.33 | Jerub | i hit 1000 shards. |
| 03:47.43 | Jerub | last night too i think. |
| 03:47.50 | Jerub | that's the achievement you're talking about right? |
| 03:48.10 | Dagmar | Well, with the pieces taking 200 shards each, that's five paid for already |
| 03:48.24 | Jerub | or 1000 on you at the moment |
| 03:48.39 | Dagmar | I don't really know. I've not spent any of them actually |
| 03:48.45 | Gnarfoz | the achievement is 1000 total |
| 03:48.46 | Dagmar | They're just boss confetti to me |
| 03:49.04 | Dagmar | You kill a boss and confetti falls into the currency tab |
| 03:49.15 | Jerub | yeah |
| 03:49.21 | Jerub | i hit 1500 emblems and 1000 shards both this week. |
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| 03:50.03 | Dagmar | I mean, I know the Horde win WG on our server because I occasionally go in there and play offense, but seems like the other side must be really dominating you on that server |
| 03:50.11 | Dagmar | I'm nowhere near that many emblems |
| 03:50.27 | Jerub | yeah |
| 03:50.34 | Jerub | horde sucks at WG on my serverr. |
| 03:50.41 | Dagmar | I r speshully suited for cannons |
| 03:50.49 | Dagmar | It doesnt' even feel fair when we're on defense in there |
| 03:51.00 | Jerub | i hit 126k health the other day. |
| 03:51.03 | Jerub | tenacity + SI |
| 03:51.05 | Dagmar | ...although it doesn't bother me enough to keep me off 'em in IoC |
| 03:51.37 | Dagmar | It's amazing how well just a tiny bit of leadership turns that blimp into Death From Above |
| 03:56.52 | WobWork | http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2299306?dopt=Abstract |
| 03:57.16 | Jerub | man, trying to do arena is eating into my emblems :/ |
| 04:06.37 | Shirik | you |
| 04:06.40 | Shirik | yo |
| 04:06.42 | Shirik | check check it |
| 04:08.29 | Ginji | So, whenever you have hickups stick something up your arse? |
| 04:08.40 | Ginji | Not very motivating now is it |
| 04:08.55 | Jerub | Ginji: it depends, a bit of lube and the right woman, you might come to enjoy it. |
| 04:09.24 | Ginji | hehe |
| 04:09.40 | kdtresh | guess i sure picked the wrong time to come back to this window |
| 04:10.01 | Ginji | Oeh, I know one place that doesn't suffer from hickups then! |
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| 04:10.04 | Ginji | Jail ... |
| 04:13.45 | Kraps | http://heartofwisdom.com/blog/a-christian-view-of-world-of-warcraft/ |
| 04:14.15 | Jerub | Ginji: not everyone has sodomatic sex in jail. |
| 04:18.27 | Gnarfoz | ~dict sodomatic |
| 04:18.58 | Gnarfoz | what? |
| 04:18.59 | Gnarfoz | :D |
| 04:19.33 | Gnarfoz | uh oh 90mins of potential sleep left |
| 04:19.57 | Jerub | I was trying to avoid server shutdown speak. |
| 04:24.00 | Gnarfoz | interesting server you play on oO |
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| 04:47.39 | WobWork | Jerub: Sodomatic? |
| 04:48.08 | WobWork | is that like automated sodomy? |
| 04:48.23 | WobWork | actually sounds like a washing machine brand |
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| 05:03.41 | Dagmar | "Gets your clothes cornhole clean!" |
| 05:04.40 | myrkraverk | Dagmar, icelandic? |
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| 05:08.15 | Jerub | faaar out. |
| 05:08.42 | Jerub | be.imba.hu is now telling me that my bear is geared for togc25/icc10h |
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| 05:18.23 | KarlKFI | hmmm, when did they completely revamp the blizzard home page? |
| 05:19.01 | KarlKFI | it has a hulu-esk slider flash now |
| 05:20.22 | KarlKFI | and why don't they have 2650x1600 wallpapers :( |
| 05:20.57 | Jerub | KarlKFI: they do. |
| 05:21.10 | Jerub | KarlKFI: this is one i use: |
| 05:21.19 | KarlKFI | not of starcraft 2 apparently |
| 05:21.34 | Jerub | pfft, starcraft 2 |
| 05:22.09 | KarlKFI | or diablo 3 |
| 05:22.52 | KarlKFI | or WotLK |
| 05:22.58 | KarlKFI | at least not from blizzard.com |
| 05:23.23 | Jerub | gah, it's been taken down |
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| 06:00.59 | WobWork | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Inouye#Assault_on_Colle_Musatello |
| 06:01.03 | WobWork | holy crap O.O |
| 06:05.40 | Mr_Rabies | GET. ON. THE. POINT. MAGGOTS. |
| 06:07.57 | Jerub | WobWork: in cryptonomicon neal stephenson makes reference to the colt 45 being invented because phillipino fighters were too damn hard to kill. |
| 06:08.26 | Jerub | however, scrolling /up/ i see he was japanese not phillipino |
| 06:08.28 | Jerub | holy shit. |
| 06:12.13 | Corrodias | jesus |
| 06:12.27 | Corrodias | he participated in ww2, and in 2006 married someone 24 years his senior? |
| 06:19.23 | Jerub | Corrodias: he *fought* ww2 an *won* |
| 06:20.44 | Corrodias | sounds like he did a significant part of that himself, too |
| 06:21.49 | Jerub | damn you |
| 06:21.53 | Jerub | i'm reading about the 442nd |
| 06:32.15 | Kraps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCYPGnJdO1U |
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| 06:38.52 | Nechckn | Shirik were you seeryus about ENG being "better" for Druid types? Goggles come to mind, since you can buy or get good drops, but... just wondering. |
| 06:42.54 | Thunder_Child | Corrodias: junior, not senior |
| 06:43.28 | Thunder_Child | and 2008 |
| 06:44.27 | WobWork | Nechckn: Two words. Rocket Boots. |
| 06:44.37 | WobWork | (although, I dunno if they work in 'form') |
| 06:44.47 | Jerub | are you saying i shouldn't have gone JC? |
| 06:44.48 | WobWork | cause Rocket Bare is awesome, no matter how you manage it |
| 06:44.56 | WobWork | Jerub: why not both? |
| 06:45.04 | ZorbaTHut | nech, eng is actually a pretty good profession now, though I admit I wouldn't use rocket boots for any spec at this point |
| 06:45.05 | Jerub | i'm LW with a pile of ToC patterns. |
| 06:45.17 | WobWork | if it makes you cash, go for it |
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| 06:45.44 | Nechckn | well, at present, I have ENG on a few servers more for fun than anything |
| 06:45.56 | Nechckn | I was going to go LW, since that used to be like the Druid must-have |
| 06:46.04 | Jerub | well, i have +63 stam from JC gems, and +62 stam from the wrist enchant. |
| 06:46.15 | ZorbaTHut | pretty much all the non-gathering professions are roughly equivalent nowadays |
| 06:46.15 | Nechckn | then everyone who was on was like ENG is the only way to go.. so now I r confuzzzed! |
| 06:46.57 | Nechckn | All my guys go either Herb/skin or Mining/skin up until 40 or so.. just to pile up the $$ for later. |
| 06:47.03 | ZorbaTHut | engineering does have a very nice buff for tanks that no other profession can equal |
| 06:47.23 | ZorbaTHut | plus parachute cloaks are just plain fun |
| 06:47.49 | Nechckn | hrm.. okey dokey, I'll opt for that route, for now, then. I like all my dragonling buddies and such stuff, too =) |
| 06:48.15 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: what's the net buff from eng as a tank? |
| 06:48.19 | ZorbaTHut | in some ways I feel like engineering is arguably the most powerful profession right now, since there's some very nice BoP leveling gear *and* there's perfectly good profession enchants available at max level. |
| 06:48.20 | Jerub | is it just the +X armor? |
| 06:48.23 | ZorbaTHut | jerub, +885 armor |
| 06:48.43 | ZorbaTHut | there's a cloak effect that gives a pile of agi also, though that's arguably not as useful with titanweave available |
| 06:49.02 | WobWork | ZorbaTHut: what's the tank buff? |
| 06:49.11 | ZorbaTHut | wob, +885 armor to gloves |
| 06:49.14 | ZorbaTHut | Reticulated Armor Webbing |
| 06:49.20 | WobWork | hm, sounds nifty |
| 06:49.29 | ZorbaTHut | it's a very nice enchant |
| 06:49.36 | WobWork | also, why aren't rocket boots a boot enchant? |
| 06:49.39 | WobWork | (or are they now?) |
| 06:49.47 | ZorbaTHut | they're not, they're still standalone items |
| 06:49.50 | WobWork | bah =( |
| 06:50.06 | ZorbaTHut | I personally wouldn't use them, they're just too unpredictable and risky IMHO. but then again I'm also a warrior and don't really need them :P |
| 06:50.10 | WobWork | they totally should be extra enchants |
| 06:50.18 | WobWork | that you can attach to enchanted boots |
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| 07:05.25 | TheDude22 | rocket boots are a boot enchant |
| 07:05.37 | TheDude22 | "nitro boots" |
| 07:05.47 | WobWork | awesome |
| 07:05.48 | TheDude22 | +24 crit too, so its actually a great enchant |
| 07:05.59 | WobWork | now, if I could only bring myself to level up engineering again |
| 07:06.03 | WobWork | >< |
| 07:07.23 | NightHawkTheSane | does anyone have any idea why id get the message "One or more party members do not meet the requirements for the chosen dungeons." when trying to queue with the my 29 warrior and my friend's 28 priest? |
| 07:07.54 | kd3 | the 28 priest doesn't meet the level requirement? |
| 07:08.09 | NightHawkTheSane | what instance could do that though? |
| 07:08.20 | kd3 | idunno |
| 07:08.26 | NightHawkTheSane | every one in the "specific dungeons" one is on both our lists. |
| 07:08.37 | NightHawkTheSane | and when she queues instead of me, it gives the same message |
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| 07:33.35 | Fisker | wrumm wrumms jnwhiteh |
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| 07:43.03 | Fisker | 1/13/2010 7:22 amArrived at DHL facility. Oxford, United Kingdom |
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| 07:54.59 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: heh |
| 07:58.32 | Fisker | it's weird though |
| 07:58.47 | Fisker | they had a 3-day break in flights |
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| 08:03.57 | kd3 | ...s at xkcd |
| 08:04.12 | krka | awesome xkcd |
| 08:04.35 | krka | i wonder if it's all a big equation system he solved |
| 08:04.40 | krka | probably numerically |
| 08:05.23 | Fisker | you wouldn't kd3 |
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| 08:10.40 | ZorbaTHut | that's just |
| 08:10.41 | ZorbaTHut | aaaagh |
| 08:10.50 | ZorbaTHut | xkcd occasionally makes my brain hurt |
| 08:11.08 | kd3 | har. the forum responses have been pretty highly along the lines of "my head asplode" |
| 08:11.44 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: i want to test it. |
| 08:12.01 | Jerub | ZorbaTHut: i want to know if he made an approximation or if it's for real. |
| 08:12.08 | Corrodias | lol @ that comic |
| 08:13.32 | ZorbaTHut | if I were him, I'd have made the basic framework with an empty circle for 1 and an empty grid on 3 |
| 08:13.52 | ZorbaTHut | then would have made an iterative process to solve for the triangle in 1 (note how straight the lines are, which is uncommon for him) and to paste 3 in |
| 08:14.16 | ZorbaTHut | and then modify 2 gradually by hand until it converged. |
| 08:14.36 | ZorbaTHut | I suppose that could be automated also, but the bars look a bit wobbly for that. |
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| 08:58.36 | Fisker | hey kd3 |
| 09:00.48 | Fisker | ok kd3 |
| 09:00.54 | Fisker | if that's the way you want it :( |
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| 09:02.37 | Torhal | Fisker: I can't raise you on my own. Time for Super Nanny. |
| 09:02.55 | Fisker | i can destroy you |
| 09:03.16 | Torhal | You've tried. The two-ply paper towels always thwart you. |
| 09:05.10 | Fisker | 1/13/2010 7:22 amArrived at DHL facility. Oxford, United Kingdom |
| 09:05.15 | Fisker | you can't stop me Torhal |
| 09:05.38 | Torhal | Your smart phone is powerless. |
| 09:05.53 | Fisker | maybe a smartphone is |
| 09:05.56 | Fisker | BUT NOT MY SUPERPHONE |
| 09:06.17 | Torhal | It was infiltrated en-route and replaced with a Newton. |
| 09:06.58 | Fisker | nope |
| 09:08.07 | Torhal | It's true. Just ask me, I'll tell you. |
| 09:11.16 | Dagmar | How would you even fit that in the same box? |
| 09:11.27 | Dagmar | Did you actually SEE how large those damn things were? |
| 09:11.51 | Torhal | Who said it was the same box? :D |
| 09:11.54 | nevcairiel | you can of course replace the boxes as well, just switch shipping labels! |
| 09:12.11 | Dagmar | A friend of mine still has his newton. It's just downright alarming to see it |
| 09:12.21 | Dagmar | It _looks_ like a PDA when you look at it, but it's way too damn big |
| 09:12.28 | Fisker | so lets hope they send my phone today, it's in dkdk tomorrow, and in my hands on friday |
| 09:12.29 | Fisker | ;3 |
| 09:16.01 | mikma | hey, how do you calculate radius of circle? |
| 09:16.37 | Fisker | Use a ruler |
| 09:17.24 | ZorbaTHut | mikma, from what available info? |
| 09:17.38 | nevcairiel | usually you start with the radius, because its one of the easiest values =p |
| 09:18.10 | mikma | zorbathut: we know the area of the circle is 1ha (10000m2) |
| 09:18.45 | ZorbaTHut | area = pi * r^2 |
| 09:18.48 | ZorbaTHut | solve for r :) |
| 09:19.57 | nevcairiel | lua> sqrt(10000/3.14159265) |
| 09:19.59 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: luabot:1: attempt to call global 'sqrt' (a nil value) |
| 09:20.02 | nevcairiel | hm |
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| 09:20.06 | nevcairiel | lua> math.sqrt |
| 09:20.07 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: function: 0x9c0b6e8 |
| 09:20.13 | nevcairiel | lua> math.sqrt(10000/3.14159265) |
| 09:20.14 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 56.41895838701 |
| 09:20.22 | nevcairiel | there, its 56.4 meters =P |
| 09:23.05 | mikma | well |
| 09:23.31 | mikma | the idea is to fence the area |
| 09:23.46 | mikma | and we need to calculate how much fence do we need |
| 09:23.58 | mikma | the r and d are easy to count |
| 09:24.24 | mikma | but the lenght from A to A around tghe circle (aint that radius?) |
| 09:24.29 | nevcairiel | you should say that :d |
| 09:24.33 | nevcairiel | radius is half the diameter |
| 09:24.54 | nevcairiel | the "length to circumfence" is c = 2*pi*r |
| 09:25.01 | nevcairiel | so |
| 09:25.16 | nevcairiel | lua> 2*3.14159265*56.41895838701 |
| 09:25.17 | lua_bot | nevcairiel: 354.49076997857 |
| 09:25.27 | nevcairiel | about 360meters fence =P |
| 09:25.41 | nevcairiel | if its a perfect circle, anyway |
| 09:27.29 | mikma | sorry |
| 09:27.45 | mikma | dont know the english terms |
| 09:28.05 | mikma | 2*pi*r |
| 09:28.08 | mikma | okidoki |
| 09:30.22 | zenzio | "To put it simply, if ridiculously, there are no proteins in wi-fi signals." |
| 09:32.11 | nevcairiel | no proteins? :( |
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| 09:45.27 | tekkub | I've got some protiens for you in my "wifi signal" |
| 09:47.22 | Torhal | tekkub: That should be a new LDB spec. |
| 09:47.25 | Torhal | cackles. |
| 09:49.22 | Fisker | tackles |
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| 10:19.53 | Fisker | Wobin |
| 10:19.59 | Fisker | was it hot yesterday? |
| 10:20.14 | Wobin | yesterday? |
| 10:20.16 | Wobin | somewhat, yes |
| 10:21.14 | Kalroth | kinky |
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| 10:39.56 | Aelobin | is there any compiled list of what dungeons can be done at each level? |
| 10:40.01 | Aelobin | with the dungeon finder i mean |
| 10:58.52 | Fisker | slaps Aelobin around a bit with a large trout |
| 10:59.30 | Aelobin | onoes, a wild fisker appears |
| 10:59.38 | Aelobin | fisker used trout |
| 11:01.51 | Fisker | it's super effective |
| 11:01.56 | Fisker | Aelobin faints |
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| 11:43.16 | Fisker | 1/13/2010 11:38 amWith delivery courier. Oxford, United Kingdom |
| 11:43.31 | Fisker | you are too late Arrowmaster |
| 11:46.59 | Shirik | it is you Fisker |
| 11:47.12 | Fisker | it is me Shirik |
| 11:51.59 | Fisker | you're gonna love my nuts Shirik |
| 11:52.53 | Shirik | o.O |
| 11:54.16 | Fisker | yeah |
| 11:54.40 | Fisker | now i just have to hope that jnwhiteh didn't scam me! |
| 11:56.04 | Fisker | grr |
| 11:56.14 | Fisker | there's a memory leak on my system ;_; |
| 11:56.45 | Fisker | moo: ram: 10983/12279.1MB (89.44%) [|||||||||-] |
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| 12:02.07 | Neurox | Hi |
| 12:02.15 | Cairenn | hi |
| 12:02.31 | Neurox | I was hoping someone could help me with a little issue I'm having with SetHyperlink |
| 12:02.49 | Neurox | It makes WoW crash |
| 12:03.06 | Neurox | But only when there's a specific variable defined elsewhere in my code |
| 12:04.18 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: I wish |
| 12:04.28 | jnwhiteh | i wont be able to get it until this afternoon/evening |
| 12:04.31 | Fisker | ;( |
| 12:04.35 | jnwhiteh | so i wont be able to ship it until tomorrow morning |
| 12:04.52 | jnwhiteh | i'll keep checking it toh |
| 12:05.00 | Fisker | the phone? :P |
| 12:05.02 | jnwhiteh | and if it's been delivered before 4:00pm |
| 12:05.03 | jnwhiteh | i should be fine |
| 12:05.04 | jnwhiteh | yeah |
| 12:05.20 | Neurox | Basically I've got a table registry_tooltip and there's an ItemRefTooltip element in it but when I create a number variable attached to that element in the table e.g. registry_tooltip[ItemRefTooltip].num = 0 it crashes when I call ItemRefTooltip's SetHyperlink |
| 12:05.39 | Neurox | And I don't get why |
| 12:06.46 | Neurox | Anyone have any ideas? |
| 12:07.30 | Fisker | i hope that they can do it day 2 day then now that it's so close then jnwhiteh :3 |
| 12:10.50 | jnwhiteh | okay i'm off to lunch and the office |
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| 12:15.33 | tlund | (is there a more "curse"-specific channel than this one?) I want to change my username on the curse websites, there used to be a link to click to request it, but i cant find it now, can anyone point me in the right direction? |
| 12:15.53 | nevcairiel | http://www.wowace.com/request-name-change/ |
| 12:16.17 | nevcairiel | although i'm not sure how fast the queue is being processed |
| 12:16.27 | nevcairiel | apparently its complicated to change the name |
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| 12:20.11 | tlund | yeah, i have been in that queue at wowace.com for over a year now |
| 12:20.20 | tlund | so .. its not beeing processed at all i would guess :( |
| 12:20.21 | Neurox | Nobody have any ideas about my problem? |
| 12:20.23 | Gnarfoz | don't hold your breath :> |
| 12:20.45 | nevcairiel | your own fault for chosing a weird name, imho =) |
| 12:21.07 | tlund | nevcairiel: weird name?! :) |
| 12:21.31 | nevcairiel | I was more making fun of Gnarfoz then answering you :d |
| 12:21.42 | tlund | ah ;) |
| 12:21.43 | Gnarfoz | pff MY request got taken care of |
| 12:21.58 | tlund | who should i poke to have my request looked at? |
| 12:22.00 | Gnarfoz | (took a while, but...) |
| 12:22.03 | nevcairiel | Kaelten |
| 12:22.10 | tlund | i remember chatting with somedone about it when i put it in, but i forgot who |
| 12:22.17 | Wobin | Gnarfoz, they tried replying to you |
| 12:22.22 | Wobin | but couldn't spell it |
| 12:22.27 | nevcairiel | hahaha |
| 12:24.26 | tlund | thanks nevcairiel |
| 12:29.38 | Neurox | It's ok to use objects as table keys like table[Frame] isn't it? |
| 12:30.04 | Wobin | yep |
| 12:31.02 | Neurox | right, was worried it would do something like make a copy of the object or something |
| 12:31.59 | Neurox | So, why does SetHyperlink crash |
| 12:32.07 | Kalroth | itll take the frame id and put it in an integer cache and use the cache index as table index so it can index your index in the cache |
| 12:32.34 | Neurox | Right |
| 12:32.57 | Kalroth | SetHyperlink() probably crashes if you give it a bad item string |
| 12:33.16 | Wobin | or an uncached item |
| 12:33.50 | Arrowmaster | neither of those should make it crash |
| 12:33.59 | Neurox | Well I'm not changing the link in anyway, I store a way to the original function then change it to my own where all I do is put the link in a variable and then call the original function with the same parameters |
| 12:34.07 | Arrowmaster | unless maybe your cache is corrupted |
| 12:34.34 | Kalroth | another good reason for using a cache of integers! |
| 12:34.51 | Neurox | o.O |
| 12:35.18 | Neurox | newest_link = link registry_tooltip[self].setHyperlink(self, link, ...) |
| 12:35.25 | Neurox | thats all my replaced SetHyperlink consists of |
| 12:36.10 | Gnarfoz | Wobin: heh, if they tried to via PM that could actually have happened - the old name wasn't a legal username anymore at that time (I had to get ckk to modify the request form's regex to even enter into the queue) |
| 12:36.37 | Arrowmaster | Neurox: and self is the first arg from the hook or your own addon table? |
| 12:36.47 | Wobin | Gnarfoz, what -was- the original name? |
| 12:37.13 | Neurox | first arg from the hook, the tooltip object |
| 12:37.44 | Wobin | you might want to pastey a bit more of the code |
| 12:38.04 | Neurox | It's a damn mess atm |
| 12:39.41 | Neurox | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/131414 |
| 12:40.17 | Neurox | If you can make any sense of it |
| 12:41.04 | Gnarfoz | Wobin: 8tImER ;o |
| 12:41.51 | Gnarfoz | don't judge, you know how old curse-gaming.com was... that account was way back from 2004 or something :D |
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| 12:43.16 | Wobin | judges =P |
| 12:44.15 | Gnarfoz | demands a fair trial |
| 12:44.17 | Gnarfoz | also |
| 12:44.26 | Kalroth | Judge "Wobin" Dredd |
| 12:44.31 | Gnarfoz | scams you with Cataclysm alpha invites |
| 12:44.42 | Wobin | ~lameometer 8tImER |
| 12:44.49 | Kalroth | haha |
| 12:45.11 | Gnarfoz | pff I've seen worse! |
| 12:45.20 | Kalroth | ~lameometer w0b1n |
| 12:45.43 | Kalroth | I wonder if its possible to score 100% |
| 12:46.09 | Wobin | Neurox, I'm not sure if you're hooking correctly |
| 12:47.09 | Neurox | Oh |
| 12:47.22 | Wobin | ~lameometer bl@ckdr@gonDEATH |
| 12:47.28 | Wobin | woohoo! |
| 12:48.10 | Gnarfoz | ~lameometer ||^^||aBcDeF123 |
| 12:48.20 | Gnarfoz | augh already beaten |
| 12:48.42 | Wobin | ~lameometer Fisker |
| 12:48.50 | Wobin | ha, see, it's broken =P |
| 12:48.54 | nevcairiel | you're doing it wrong wobin |
| 12:49.32 | Gnarfoz | however, @ is not valid, is it? |
| 12:49.48 | nevcairiel | ~nickmeter fisker |
| 12:49.48 | purl | fisker is 100% lame with a cherry on top! |
| 12:49.50 | nevcairiel | there! |
| 12:49.55 | Neurox | How do you think I should hook it then Wobin? |
| 12:50.45 | Wobin | Neurox, can't you do the same as you do with hooksecurefunc? |
| 12:50.52 | Wobin | on SetHyperlink? |
| 12:50.53 | Kalroth | haha |
| 12:50.59 | Wobin | since you're not actually changing the functionality of it |
| 12:51.46 | Wobin | (I'm assuming here, that SetHyperlink is a blizzard api call) |
| 12:52.19 | Neurox | I'm reassigning the reference to it |
| 12:52.29 | Neurox | So I can store the link |
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| 12:55.56 | Wobin | hooksecurefunc(GameTooltip, "SetHyperlink", function( link ) newest_link = link end) ? |
| 12:56.30 | Wobin | cause I don't see why you need to do that level of hooking, since all you need is a post hook |
| 12:57.35 | Wobin | or hooksecurefunc(GameTooltip, "SetHyperlink", function( self, link ) newest_link = link end) |
| 12:57.37 | Wobin | really... |
| 12:58.07 | Neurox | :o you're right |
| 12:58.22 | Neurox | I was using that way because I'd used it before in my Tooltip Icon addon |
| 12:58.33 | Neurox | Never really thought about whether it was needed |
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| 13:05.48 | Neurox | now I need to figure out a way to manually call SetHyperlink without setting newest_link :p |
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| 13:08.03 | Wobin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-KlEHa_Dkw&hd=1 |
| 13:08.04 | Wobin | omg |
| 13:08.08 | Wobin | such a huge SFX budget |
| 13:08.17 | Wobin | such terrible terrible SFX =P |
| 13:13.59 | mikma | bummer, i need some sort of class-schedule made from php/html :I |
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| 13:16.06 | Wobin | you poor thing =( |
| 13:17.16 | mikma | yes. |
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| 13:23.42 | Wobin | ok, I'm impressed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRS9cpOMYv0&feature=player_embedded |
| 13:23.49 | Wobin | see, now -that's- good sfx |
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| 13:38.13 | Fisker | my nuts [Wobin] |
| 13:39.31 | mikma | wobwork: hoho |
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| 13:45.18 | zenzio | hai peppy! |
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| 13:55.06 | Lopeppeppy | Morning, zenzio. |
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| 14:04.52 | Fisker | hey Lopeppeppy |
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| 14:07.07 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: doesn't show that it's been delivered yet, does it |
| 14:08.09 | Fisker | nope |
| 14:08.19 | Fisker | probably won't until the delivery truck gets back |
| 14:08.31 | jnwhiteh | yeah, which makes it tough for me |
| 14:08.40 | jnwhiteh | but I may end up leaving the office early, anyway. |
| 14:08.41 | Shirik | huggles Lopeppeppy |
| 14:09.35 | Fisker | it was probably already delivered |
| 14:10.42 | jnwhiteh | hard to tell |
| 14:11.54 | Fisker | i guess someone has to be last on the delivery list :P |
| 14:15.23 | jnwhiteh | I'm currently having incoming issues with Royal Mail |
| 14:15.25 | jnwhiteh | blegh |
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| 14:17.33 | jnwhiteh | I had a package that was comign in, and I think they tried to deliver it in the 4 days the college was closed for Christmas.. and now its in a black hole of despair |
| 14:18.11 | Lopeppeppy | Oh no! *hug* |
| 14:18.22 | Fisker | ;( |
| 14:18.28 | nevcairiel | that poor package |
| 14:19.04 | jnwhiteh | two of them |
| 14:19.11 | jnwhiteh | they're a cow shaped butter dish, and a matchign teapot |
| 14:19.17 | jnwhiteh | they were my friend's christmas present =) |
| 14:21.12 | Fisker | oh good riddance then |
| 14:21.12 | Fisker | :P |
| 14:21.22 | nevcairiel | a cow shaped teapot? |
| 14:21.33 | jnwhiteh | Well, its not cow shaped |
| 14:21.35 | jnwhiteh | it just matches |
| 14:21.43 | jnwhiteh | the butter dish is a bit cow 'shaped' :P |
| 14:21.57 | nevcairiel | http://www.hotteapots-store.com/catalog/images/AT-cow-teapot.jpg ? :P |
| 14:21.59 | nevcairiel | oh |
| 14:22.11 | myrkraverk | when I bind chatframe items to the worldframe, and they are faded out when I hit alt-z, they won't fade in again on mouseover, why is that? |
| 14:22.37 | myrkraverk | that is, I don't have the mouse over the chatframe so it's showing, when i hit alt-z |
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| 14:25.59 | Fisker | RRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRGH |
| 14:26.08 | Fisker | so there you are in queue for random heroic |
| 14:26.20 | Fisker | then you're like "i gotta go to the bathroom, but what if the queue goes up?" |
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| 14:26.30 | Fisker | Then i take a chance and come back with the "declined dungeon invite" :( |
| 14:27.35 | myrkraverk | well, it's either that or pee in a jar in the middel of the dungien |
| 14:29.53 | Shirik | ... |
| 14:29.56 | Shirik | tmi |
| 14:30.21 | Dagmar | Learn to pee harder |
| 14:30.30 | Dagmar | Or just give it a few more years of that |
| 14:30.56 | Dagmar | Most hackers have a bladder size of about a liter or more, far above the average human, just because they're too busy typing to go pee |
| 14:31.47 | nevcairiel | is that a proven fact? :P |
| 14:32.07 | Dagmar | I know mine's over a liter, and I've heard reports from other hackers as well |
| 14:32.27 | Dagmar | Serious knee surgery lets you face so many interesting and wonderful things about your habits |
| 14:32.30 | nevcairiel | i wouldnt care to measure |
| 14:32.55 | Dagmar | I got to measure by virtue of the elbow-crawl to the bathroom is something you can only really do so many times a day |
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| 14:34.15 | Dagmar | When they drill 30 holes in the end of your femur to form "scar cartiledge" what they really mean is "for the week after the surgery, even looking at your right leg will make you break a sweat" |
| 14:36.22 | Dagmar | I mentioned it to the doc. He did confirm that the bladder will definitely stretch over time |
| 14:36.23 | Dagmar | hehe |
| 14:36.47 | Fisker | 1/13/2010 2:19 pmShipment delivered. Oxford, United Kingdom Why is this? |
| 14:36.51 | Fisker | mr. jnwhiteh |
| 14:37.05 | Dagmar | Fisker: Was that _your_ shipment? |
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| 14:38.58 | Fisker | yes Dagmar |
| 14:39.26 | Dagmar | ...and your'e not in Oxford? |
| 14:39.34 | Dagmar | Seems like god has decided you need more paperwork in your diet |
| 14:41.42 | Fisker | naw |
| 14:41.47 | Fisker | jnwhiteh is in oxford or something |
| 14:42.59 | nevcairiel | You're so nice Fisker, you bought jnwhiteh a new phone? aww |
| 14:43.23 | Fisker | :( |
| 14:45.42 | Fisker | why do i always get the moron groups? |
| 14:45.59 | Fisker | we've wiped 2 times sofar with this "capable" fury tank |
| 14:47.07 | Dagmar | Did he die or was DPS just too low |
| 14:47.19 | Shirik | huh |
| 14:47.22 | Dagmar | ...and by DPS I do mean the tank's as well |
| 14:47.25 | jnwhiteh | I totally read that as 'furry' |
| 14:47.33 | Shirik | Fun little test to play: |
| 14:47.45 | Shirik | 1. Go to baidu.com (a china-based search engine) |
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| 14:47.56 | Shirik | 2. Search for "google" and "blogspot.com" to verify they work |
| 14:47.57 | Fisker | first time was lack of threat |
| 14:48.03 | Dagmar | GL was having latency issues tonight or something and just having him and his wife lagged was enough of a DPS drop for us to wipe seven times on HHoR |
| 14:48.09 | Fisker | second time was mispull and not being able to keep stuff off the healer |
| 14:48.11 | Shirik | 3. Search for "google.blogspot.com" and get IP blocked for 5 minutes |
| 14:48.24 | Dagmar | Shirik: Hahaha |
| 14:48.32 | jnwhiteh | Shirik: wow, special |
| 14:48.38 | Dagmar | Personally, I *loved* Google's announcement yesterday on SO many levels |
| 14:49.24 | Dagmar | They caught China red-handed and now they're pissed |
| 14:50.07 | Dagmar | It very much looks like they're quite ready to take their ball and go home, with respect to dealing with those people anymore |
| 14:50.22 | Fisker | what did google do? |
| 14:50.40 | Dagmar | Lemme find the URL |
| 14:50.48 | Dagmar | It's truly worthy of the word "epic" |
| 14:51.00 | Dagmar | http://googleblog.blogspot.com/ |
| 14:51.52 | Fisker | i wanted to know what they did, not read 20 pages about it |
| 14:52.11 | Dagmar | In short, they caught China red-handed stealing Google's technology, as well as a bunch of other companies' technology, and also noticed that a whole slew of human rights' activitsts email accounts had been compromised by the Chinese gov't, and have said "Okay. From now on if we do Internet in your country, we do it OUR way. If you dont like it, we'll leave." |
| 14:52.39 | Fisker | sweet |
| 14:53.27 | Dagmar | Yeah and at this point, it looks like they've set the stage so that if China says a damn thing it'll be basically making the world's most arrogant bureuacracy have to respond to a _blog post_ |
| 14:53.50 | Fisker | atleast the chinese government doesn't have the problem with poor translations for their scam sites then |
| 14:55.34 | Audible__ | hehe |
| 14:55.48 | Audible__ | i like google's approach on alot of those things |
| 14:56.08 | Audible__ | their "dont be cruel" business policy has its nice sides |
| 14:56.08 | Audible__ | it allows them to be evil |
| 14:56.15 | Dagmar | It's "don't be evil" |
| 14:56.23 | Dagmar | ...and they're not being evil. |
| 14:56.39 | Dagmar | They're pretty much demonstrating that they're not interested in helping people who *are* evil, either |
| 14:57.24 | nevcairiel | so is google.cn already blocked in china? =P |
| 14:57.54 | Audible__ | well, they were forthcoming to R. Murdocs proposal about the whole US newspaper thing |
| 14:58.12 | Dagmar | Murdoch needs to take his head out of his ass |
| 14:58.26 | haste | like that will happne |
| 14:58.28 | Dagmar | I hate to say that about a man who is otherwise so successful, but it's true |
| 14:58.36 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: well there's tanks on tiananmen again |
| 14:58.43 | Dagmar | People aren't reading papers anymore not because there's easier info on the web |
| 14:58.46 | Kalroth | nevcairiel: so if they aren't blocked, they will be very soon |
| 14:58.52 | nevcairiel | Kalroth: i saw the pics :D |
| 14:58.54 | Dagmar | They're ignoring papers because they're barely printing anything worth reading |
| 14:59.35 | Dagmar | Like CNN _could_ be doing news, but instead half their airtime is now devoted to these "opinion" shows like Nancy Grace and that pinhead Glenn Beck |
| 14:59.44 | Dagmar | ...where basically, they just make things up. |
| 14:59.56 | Audible__ | well, that is the case with murdoc and google, he was saying google stole "his" news |
| 15:00.05 | Dagmar | High school kids write papers that involve more research than most of these guys do anymore |
| 15:00.46 | Dagmar | Yeah the only reason he's saying that is because he thinks people are hardly paying their company because they can get the same information elsewhere with less nonsense |
| 15:00.53 | Dagmar | ...which for one thing is TRUE |
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| 15:01.16 | Dagmar | ...and for the other, most of his properties _aren't_ producing anything significantly better than anyone else to begin with |
| 15:01.38 | Dagmar | ...and that's the main show-stopper. No one is reading because it's just not worth reading |
| 15:02.38 | Dagmar | That a single company has basically just told an entire country's government that they're about to f**k them over is _significant_ |
| 15:02.52 | Dagmar | ...but most of his properties won't even mention it over the next few days |
| 15:03.18 | nevcairiel | refering to google as "a single company" seems like a mild understatement, though =P |
| 15:03.37 | Dagmar | I know this hasn't happened before in *my* lifetime |
| 15:04.26 | Dagmar | The NYT is frequently used as a source of "historical record" because they used to publish serious articles about the why of things |
| 15:04.57 | Fisker | Who's brooks anyways jnwhiteh ? |
| 15:05.09 | Dagmar | The Google/China thing is the sort of thing that would get a lot of column inches |
| 15:05.42 | Dagmar | Now they basically just publish dry facts, a few chimp op-ed's here and there, and reformat press releases as "news" |
| 15:06.11 | Fisker | "'s have never been richer though |
| 15:07.12 | Dagmar | I can't count the number of times I've looked through NYT's technology section and seen the exact same things as what came off the AP wire, with no new details of significance even added |
| 15:07.35 | Fisker | i can though |
| 15:07.48 | Fisker | i'm good with numbers |
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| 15:09.20 | Fisker | this is why wow is censored! |
| 15:13.51 | nevcairiel | I would guess they are unsure how to react |
| 15:14.48 | Bruners | Fisker: do you have the link to that duke nukem article on wired? |
| 15:15.06 | Fisker | why wouldn't i? |
| 15:15.10 | Fisker | http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/12/fail_duke_nukem/all/1 |
| 15:15.21 | Bruners | <3 Fisker |
| 15:16.06 | Lunessa | I think the world must be ending. Someone <3's Fisker. |
| 15:17.04 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: hrm? |
| 15:18.16 | Fisker | that's who signed it :o |
| 15:18.57 | nevcairiel | so <random guy> has a new nexus one now? grats! =) |
| 15:19.15 | Fisker | what if it's a girl? |
| 15:19.47 | Dagmar | It's a _nice_ phone |
| 15:21.03 | mikma | nexus 6 |
| 15:21.58 | mikma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paSUqBCbL_o |
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| 15:31.42 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: oh. lol |
| 15:32.10 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: I'll remove any outer labels and shit |
| 15:32.13 | jnwhiteh | and just use the same box, imo |
| 15:32.15 | jnwhiteh | if I can |
| 15:32.26 | jnwhiteh | How much do we insure it for? |
| 15:34.12 | Thunder_Child | 530$ |
| 15:35.38 | Lopeppeppy | I usually make *bigger* labels and slap 'em over the old ones, jnwhiteh. |
| 15:35.53 | jnwhiteh | yeah I just don't have much label leeway here =) |
| 15:36.00 | jnwhiteh | i dont know where id' even go to get ems |
| 15:36.07 | jnwhiteh | so depends on what I find at the post office |
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| 15:38.30 | Lopeppeppy | I use paper and clear packing tape. |
| 15:38.37 | kneeki | Morning everyone |
| 15:40.08 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: am I sending this 1-day, 2-day, 3-day or what? |
| 15:41.07 | Fisker | dunno? |
| 15:41.29 | jnwhiteh | how fast do you want it |
| 15:41.30 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 15:41.33 | Fisker | fast :P |
| 15:41.37 | jnwhiteh | not that I can guarantee anything |
| 15:41.39 | jnwhiteh | alright |
| 15:41.50 | jnwhiteh | you're paying, so give me an upper limit for 1-day |
| 15:41.56 | jnwhiteh | at which point I'll drop down to 2-day |
| 15:42.05 | Fisker | but weren't you sending with royalmail? |
| 15:42.26 | jnwhiteh | well royal mail/parcelforce are kind of the same in this case |
| 15:42.39 | Fisker | well giev some links so i can look at it :P |
| 15:42.48 | jnwhiteh | i dont have more than what you were lookign at |
| 15:43.01 | jnwhiteh | and i wont know until i'm at the post office what they really have to offer |
| 15:43.02 | jnwhiteh | that's why I ask |
| 15:43.54 | jnwhiteh | I can't imagine its going to be more than £40 |
| 15:44.00 | jnwhiteh | but I dunno |
| 15:45.00 | Fisker | question is, is it 1 day from them to my postal services? or 1 day from them to me |
| 15:45.11 | jnwhiteh | I don't know, to be honest. |
| 15:45.12 | Fisker | Because if it's the former it doesn't matter now, our postal services suck |
| 15:45.12 | Fisker | :P |
| 15:45.19 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 15:45.46 | nevcairiel | with express mail you can even 1-day from the US to your home, granted it'll cost you |
| 15:46.51 | Fisker | it's about £51 for global express + insurance |
| 15:46.58 | jnwhiteh | alright |
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| 15:47.30 | Ackis | I hope it gets lost in the ocean. |
| 15:47.36 | jnwhiteh | =( |
| 15:47.42 | Fisker | then i get my money back |
| 15:47.43 | Fisker | wee |
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| 15:48.28 | Ackis | anyone used: http://www.pcworld.com/article/151952/boot_faster_with_startup_delayer.html |
| 15:49.45 | Fisker | anyways just take the airsure stuff |
| 15:49.56 | Fisker | Not gonna pay 3 times as much to have it sitting at some post office over the weekend :P |
| 15:49.56 | jnwhiteh | It's AddonLoader for windows! |
| 15:50.14 | Dagmar | I just *don't* let apps like that run |
| 15:50.37 | Dagmar | If I don't need instantaneous access to something, it doesn't get it's own little daemon running on my box |
| 15:51.13 | Cide | are you sure about that? |
| 15:51.21 | Cide | I'm in ur box, starting ur daemonz |
| 15:52.04 | Ackis | oh noes not my daemonz |
| 15:55.07 | Kraps | is AddonLoader like optionhouse? |
| 15:55.21 | olafski | ackis: that looks nice |
| 15:55.47 | Ackis | olafski: it looks nice, but is it useful? or does it just add another piece of shit software running |
| 15:56.09 | Cide | the question is |
| 15:56.24 | Cide | can it delay the launch of *itself*? |
| 15:56.40 | Lunessa | http://www.asofterworld.com/index.php?id=284 |
| 15:57.03 | nevcairiel | I like how MS stole that idea and has delay-loading of services since 7 |
| 15:57.28 | Kraps | also, eating half a bag of peanuts right before bed is a terrible idea :( |
| 15:57.42 | Cide | nevcairiel, but can that service delay itself? |
| 15:57.56 | nevcairiel | well, not without external help, no :P |
| 15:58.03 | Ackis | Kraps: I feel sorry for your craps. |
| 15:58.04 | Ackis | HAH |
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| 15:59.07 | Kraps | i had to krap quite a bit this morning, and my stomach still hurts |
| 15:59.16 | Kraps | i blame my dad |
| 15:59.28 | Kraps | HE BROUGHT THE BAG TO MY ROOM |
| 15:59.32 | krka | that's disturbing |
| 16:00.06 | Cide | krka, quite |
| 16:00.13 | Thunder_Child | in many ways |
| 16:00.40 | jnwhiteh | Kraps: no, AddonLoader is nothing liike Optionhouse |
| 16:02.24 | Kraps | jnwhiteh: AddonLoader loads addons after you log in? |
| 16:02.57 | olafski | ackis: yeah.. I guess it's another piece of software running. I dunno which programs I currently have on startup so dunno if it makes sense to delay some of them |
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| 16:03.34 | Dagmar | Just go look at the registry keys where they're all started |
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| 16:03.43 | Dagmar | If you're on a relatively new install, the list will be quite short |
| 16:03.49 | Kraps | olafski: do you have windows defender? |
| 16:04.04 | Ackis | I don't use my home PC anymore |
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| 16:04.09 | Ackis | XBox is all I need baby |
| 16:05.07 | Kraps | krka: what did i say? |
| 16:05.55 | olafski | kraps: I guess so |
| 16:06.14 | olafski | isn't there some windows tool that can show me the startup things? like msconfig |
| 16:06.21 | olafski | oh, that still works :) |
| 16:06.48 | olafski | shows 32 programs on startup >_< |
| 16:06.48 | jnwhiteh | Kraps: http://www.wowwiki.com/AddonLoader |
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| 16:07.07 | jnwhiteh | off to go fondle Fisker's nexus one |
| 16:07.08 | Kraps | olafski:defender has a nifty display that can show you startup programs and disable them |
| 16:07.09 | jnwhiteh | bbl |
| 16:07.12 | Fisker | nice |
| 16:07.18 | Fisker | gets a raging boner |
| 16:07.29 | olafski | kraps: where can I see that? I get the feeling many of my startup things can go, now that I look at them |
| 16:07.36 | foxlit | qq. Region-based licensing on digital media needs to roll over and die. |
| 16:07.46 | olafski | and I guess some of them can be delayed but I'm not entirely sure that'll gain too much |
| 16:07.54 | Fisker | i'll probably be sent a flashed hero with live wallpapers amirite jnwhiteh? |
| 16:08.13 | olafski | stuff like virusscanners, logitech setpoint, adobe acrobat(?) |
| 16:08.36 | Kraps | open defender, options, something there |
| 16:09.10 | olafski | oh very nice.. I didn't know defender was actually a program I could open :P always thought it was just some process that runs in the background |
| 16:09.12 | Thunder_Child | http://gizmodo.com/5447049/make-your-sarcasm-obvious-in-gizmodo-comments-with-the-new-sarcmark-punctuation-download |
| 16:09.18 | cog|away | Fisker: |
| 16:09.32 | Fisker | cogwheel: |
| 16:09.55 | cogwheel | ::::::::::::::::: <- colon cancer |
| 16:10.14 | Dagmar | olafski: Once you start watching for them you'd be amazed at how many companies think you want their individual updater running 24/7 on your machine |
| 16:10.25 | cogwheel | wtb caffeine |
| 16:10.46 | olafski | dagmar: yeah.. I wonder what acrobat is doing there.. and all sorts of ASUS tools |
| 16:10.54 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: three http://gizmodo.com/5446912/nexus-ones-lousy-customer-support-shows-googles-weakness |
| 16:11.12 | Dagmar | Acrobat is checking to see if there's a newer version of Acrobat |
| 16:11.24 | Fisker | your math skills are lacking Thunder_Child |
| 16:11.45 | Fisker | The only, sofar, valid link you've posted was the first |
| 16:11.53 | olafski | heh, windows defender lists way less apps than msconfig :P |
| 16:12.34 | Thunder_Child | Fisker: i invalidate your invalidations of my valid post |
| 16:12.35 | Kraps | oh :/ |
| 16:13.08 | olafski | 18 on windows defender, 32 on msconifg |
| 16:13.11 | olafski | msconfig** |
| 16:13.20 | Fisker | it isn't valid Thunder_Child |
| 16:13.28 | Fisker | come back when you've found the other 2 btw |
| 16:13.41 | Thunder_Child | other ONE |
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| 16:14.42 | Fisker | Well all i know is that you said there were 4-5 issues with the phone |
| 16:14.46 | Fisker | sofar you've shown me one |
| 16:15.22 | cogwheel | Fisker: |
| 16:15.28 | Fisker | i also didn't know that when you were talking about issues with the phone that you were referring to issues not yet discovered |
| 16:15.30 | Fisker | cogwheel |
| 16:15.39 | Kraps | hey foreigners: hating the US because many internet contests are only valid to US citizens makes you a moron |
| 16:15.50 | Kraps | http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:JoePlay/Mass_Effect_2_Giveawayread the comments |
| 16:15.50 | cogwheel | hai Fisker |
| 16:15.55 | Fisker | i think they do it on purpose Kraps |
| 16:15.56 | Fisker | hey cogwheel |
| 16:15.59 | Kraps | http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:JoePlay/Mass_Effect_2_Giveaway read the comments |
| 16:16.06 | Fisker | learn 2 space Kraps |
| 16:16.50 | Kraps | i did Fisker so stfu |
| 16:17.03 | Fisker | i would if i could |
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| 16:17.40 | foxlit | Kraps: personally, I enjoyed "No one cares about Europe. Plz die." |
| 16:18.22 | Fisker | what's an europe? |
| 16:18.34 | Kraps | didnt read that far because i'm at work but lol |
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| 16:19.17 | zenzelezz | http://www.11points.com/News-Politics/11_Most_Painfully_Obvious_Newspaper_Articles_Ever |
| 16:20.20 | krka | LOL |
| 16:21.19 | Fisker | farts |
| 16:22.31 | Adys_ | http://xkcd.com/688/ |
| 16:23.02 | olafski | dang they're once again considering a wow movie |
| 16:23.10 | olafski | they should let michael bay direct it tbh :< |
| 16:23.25 | foxlit | not "once again" |
| 16:23.35 | foxlit | It's the same movie as through the last two(?) years. |
| 16:23.38 | olafski | ah |
| 16:24.14 | alestane | I would have to shoot Michael Bay if they offered him that movie. |
| 16:24.31 | foxlit | Ah, come on, it's Warcraft. |
| 16:24.34 | Fisker | i would have to take a bullet for michael bay if you shot him |
| 16:24.39 | foxlit | Could even Michael Bay make it even more of a joke? |
| 16:25.00 | durcyn | Yes, he very easily could. |
| 16:25.13 | durcyn | though Uwe Boll would do even worse |
| 16:25.34 | Thunder_Child | the fact that it isnt full CGI already makes it less than it could be |
| 16:25.46 | olafski | wow fisker you said something good :P |
| 16:26.05 | olafski | michael bay rocks |
| 16:26.12 | olafski | I have the sort of shallow tastes that makes me like his movies |
| 16:26.32 | Kraps | olafski: its come to the forefront again because raimi dropped out of spider-man 4 |
| 16:26.41 | olafski | yeah, I saw that on IGN daily fix |
| 16:26.45 | alestane | His motion-sickness-inducing cinematography was one of the worst elements of the Transformers movies. |
| 16:27.24 | olafski | hah |
| 16:27.35 | olafski | I've watched transformers 3x in cinema, 2x on dvd and 2x on bluray :D |
| 16:27.46 | Kraps | what |
| 16:27.47 | zenzelezz | motion-sickness-inducing... sounds like the boat ride in Half-Life 2 |
| 16:27.49 | olafski | transformers 2 only 4 times total but they're my favourite 2 movies :) |
| 16:28.31 | foxlit | The boat ride in HL2? That didn't seem to be a problem. |
| 16:28.48 | zenzelezz | a lot of people found it unpleasant |
| 16:28.50 | nevcairiel | I didnt notice anything in transformers either, so meh |
| 16:29.15 | alestane | He likes to have the camera about two feet from the action so that you feel overwhelmed. |
| 16:29.23 | olafski | me neither nevcairiel :) |
| 16:29.56 | olafski | the transformers game trailer looks awesome :D |
| 16:30.44 | nevcairiel | meh i dunno, games after movies |
| 16:31.21 | Kraps | the fact that they want to "reboot" spider-man would be fail except for that IMO that Toby McGuire is bad in that role |
| 16:31.54 | Kraps | s/IMO that/IMO |
| 16:32.08 | olafski | this isn't exactly after a movie nevcairiel :P |
| 16:32.23 | olafski | not to mention the movie is after a toy-line.. :) |
| 16:32.36 | nevcairiel | they usually go after the movie to attract more people |
| 16:32.57 | olafski | well, have a look at the trailers |
| 16:32.59 | olafski | trailer* |
| 16:33.12 | olafski | it has nothing to do with the movie.. they changed character designs and it takes place on Cybertron |
| 16:33.33 | foxlit | Next thing I'm watching: Where the Wild Things Are. |
| 16:33.49 | foxlit | Which, through extraordinary fail, is going to appear in cinemas here in around April. |
| 16:34.00 | foxlit | s/April/March 25/ |
| 16:34.44 | nicoli_s | i heard that movie was pretty shitty |
| 16:34.56 | Kraps | why? |
| 16:35.03 | foxlit | On an even more fail side, there appears to be nothing else that's even remotely interesting. Or, hm, Alice. |
| 16:35.22 | nevcairiel | sherlock holmes seemed interesting |
| 16:35.36 | nicoli_s | meh, im so tired of that actor |
| 16:35.39 | zenzelezz | yes, but then they made a Hollywood version |
| 16:36.10 | olafski | agreed nevcairiel :) |
| 16:36.14 | olafski | still have to see that one |
| 16:36.28 | nevcairiel | its not out here |
| 16:36.34 | Kraps | nicoli_s: come on, downey is great |
| 16:37.15 | nevcairiel | Alice also seemed like some fun, but dunno |
| 16:38.15 | Kraps | foxlit: would you rent stuff? |
| 16:38.16 | nicoli_s | @kraps: i still remember him from ally mcbeal |
| 16:38.25 | nicoli_s | and nevcairiel: i have high hopes for that movie |
| 16:38.44 | nicoli_s | the charlie and the choc factory remake wasnt terrible, and if alice is a little darker itll be good i thinl |
| 16:38.58 | nevcairiel | i didnt like the choc factory thing |
| 16:39.24 | Kraps | depp carried that movie |
| 16:39.25 | nevcairiel | but we'll see |
| 16:39.50 | nicoli_s | indeed he did kraps, but i found it entertaining nonetheless |
| 16:40.36 | Kraps | nicoli_s: you saw the earlier one? |
| 16:41.13 | nicoli_s | the original? of course |
| 16:43.38 | olafski | I like the original |
| 16:43.40 | Thunder_Child | they really should have done soemthing with the sound, but for all that it is rather interesting http://vimeo.com/7231932 |
| 16:43.43 | olafski | wonder if I should see the remake |
| 16:46.13 | Kraps | odd, the only movies i seem to be able to recommend right now are "just like heaven" and "eternal sunshine of the spotless mind" |
| 16:46.34 | Thunder_Child | "From your 2 subscriptions, over the last 7 days you read 706 items" stupid CES |
| 16:46.37 | Cide | Adys, today's xkcd is awesome |
| 16:46.45 | Adys | yes, it is |
| 16:46.59 | Kraps | both rom-coms though spotless mind is less com |
| 16:48.01 | nicoli_s | eternal sunshine is great |
| 16:48.11 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:48.12 | nicoli_s | almost all of michel gondry's movies are amazing |
| 16:48.20 | nicoli_s | the science of sleep was really damn good |
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| 16:49.00 | nicoli_s | and his music video dvd is great too |
| 16:49.05 | Kraps | just like heaven is also kind of off the beaten rom-com track |
| 16:49.47 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: shipped. |
| 16:49.52 | jnwhiteh | it'll be on the 'next plane to Denmark' |
| 16:49.57 | jnwhiteh | but then its up to your postal service |
| 16:49.59 | jnwhiteh | and it was CHEAP |
| 16:50.20 | jnwhiteh | Tracking number LY478033943GB |
| 16:50.56 | Fisker | zomg |
| 16:51.04 | Fisker | how cheap was it? |
| 16:51.21 | Kraps | jnwhiteh: Fisker: what takes 2 months to ship? |
| 16:51.43 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: £11 |
| 16:51.48 | Fisker | wow |
| 16:51.49 | tem|work | jnwhiteh: what you shipping to Fisker? |
| 16:51.57 | tem|work | a bomb I hope? |
| 16:51.59 | nevcairiel | european shipping is never that expensive |
| 16:52.14 | jnwhiteh | with £300 insurance |
| 16:52.18 | jnwhiteh | oh, and I didn't even open the box |
| 16:52.23 | jnwhiteh | although it took everything I had. |
| 16:52.27 | jnwhiteh | to resist. |
| 16:52.29 | tem|work | ah so poison |
| 16:52.31 | nevcairiel | hehe |
| 16:53.09 | zenzelezz | no, it's a nexus crystal |
| 16:53.16 | Fisker | nexus one |
| 16:53.18 | tem|work | nexus crystal? |
| 16:53.22 | tem|work | like level 60? |
| 16:53.26 | zenzelezz | yes |
| 16:53.28 | Fisker | :( |
| 16:53.30 | tem|work | awesome. |
| 16:53.30 | zenzelezz | Fisker is years behind |
| 16:53.59 | jnwhiteh | Item LY478033943GB was posted at 36 Walton Street OX2 6AD on 13/01/10 and is being progressed through our network for delivery. |
| 16:54.00 | Fisker | But if they send it over tonight i'll either have it tomorrow or on friday |
| 16:54.10 | jnwhiteh | here's hoping |
| 16:54.13 | jnwhiteh | you lucky rich bastard |
| 16:54.13 | jnwhiteh | =) |
| 16:54.14 | Fisker | they'd almost have to be failure trolls not to deliver before the weekend then |
| 16:54.16 | jnwhiteh | although |
| 16:54.20 | jnwhiteh | i fixed HTC hero today |
| 16:54.24 | jnwhiteh | so I'm happy =) |
| 16:54.28 | Fisker | what was wrong? :P |
| 16:54.37 | zenzelezz | he needed to charge the battery |
| 16:54.48 | Fisker | yeah i hate it when that happen |
| 16:54.49 | Fisker | s |
| 16:55.06 | jnwhiteh | oh |
| 16:55.09 | jnwhiteh | and they didnt' open the packing slip |
| 16:55.20 | jnwhiteh | so unless there was some other declaration (there may have been) |
| 16:55.24 | jnwhiteh | no duty or VAT yet. |
| 16:55.50 | Fisker | no duty since it's a phone :P |
| 16:56.03 | Fisker | DHL should send you a bill with VAT fees later though :o |
| 16:56.22 | Kraps | Fisker: there are no phones on your planet? |
| 16:56.24 | durcyn | so, uh, cladhaire |
| 16:56.29 | durcyn | how much for fisker's address? |
| 16:56.36 | durcyn | i have some...things i'd like to send him. |
| 16:56.39 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 16:58.15 | Fisker | Well i'd get bodyguards if it weren't for wasting money protection some retard obviously offending muslims |
| 16:58.56 | Kraps | what |
| 16:59.15 | Fisker | Kurt Westergaard and shit |
| 16:59.23 | Fisker | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurt_Westergaard |
| 16:59.40 | Kraps | everyone has the right to be offended |
| 16:59.41 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: buy me a nexus one now? |
| 16:59.43 | jnwhiteh | i can help! |
| 16:59.47 | Kraps | and offend |
| 16:59.57 | Fisker | Yes Kraps |
| 17:00.17 | Fisker | i don't see how that falls into the scheme where we as taxpayers pay for his protection |
| 17:00.29 | Fisker | atleast not beyond the offices that we mere taxpayers can get |
| 17:00.36 | Fisker | services* |
| 17:01.09 | Fisker | If he needs a bodyguard and panic rooms, he can go pay for it himself |
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| 17:17.46 | Adys | http://www.11points.com/images/blotter/blot-fungalcream.jpg |
| 17:17.51 | Adys | thats just weird |
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| 17:21.57 | zenzelezz | hehe |
| 17:22.19 | olafski | how much is five pounds in grams? |
| 17:22.33 | olafski | is it really ~2.5kg? |
| 17:22.37 | zenzelezz | purl, 5 / 2.2 |
| 17:22.38 | purl | 2.272727272727 |
| 17:22.42 | zenzelezz | I think |
| 17:22.54 | nevcairiel | |
| 17:22.54 | nevcairiel | 5 pounds = 2 267.96185 grams |
| 17:23.00 | Grum | 5 pounds = 2 267.96185 grams |
| 17:23.02 | nevcairiel | you know, google is a glorified calculator |
| 17:23.04 | Grum | haha |
| 17:23.05 | Grum | google ftw |
| 17:23.20 | Grum | google for: '5 pound in grams' :P |
| 17:23.27 | olafski | hm I looked at wikipedia |
| 17:23.32 | olafski | thought maybe the US has some other notion of pound |
| 17:23.39 | Kraps | s/ google is glorified// |
| 17:23.55 | olafski | but really, that woman ate 2.2 kg of bacon as a midnight snack? :S |
| 17:24.15 | zenzelezz | I think most measurements are somewhat standardised now |
| 17:24.26 | zenzelezz | there used to be a US and a UK inch |
| 17:24.36 | zenzelezz | and probably more |
| 17:24.39 | Lunessa | Fisker: So, if you publish something offensive and multiple nations offer a bounty for your life, you don't want your government to protect you either? |
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| 17:24.55 | nevcairiel | we use the term "pound" (or rather the translated german version of it) as an alias for 500g locally here, though |
| 17:25.21 | olafski | yes same here nevcairiel |
| 17:25.28 | Kraps | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:25.28 | olafski | and I new british pounds were more like 450g |
| 17:25.42 | olafski | but I can't believe someone would eat 2200g of bacon in one go as a snack |
| 17:25.54 | Adys | within the next 50 years, the US will probably be fully using the metric system |
| 17:25.56 | olafski | I could probably do it, but I'd feel horrible afterwards :P |
| 17:26.44 | Kraps | Adys: orly? |
| 17:27.10 | Adys | oh |
| 17:27.15 | Adys | teamspeak 3 is released |
| 17:27.19 | Adys | heres to DNF |
| 17:27.22 | zenzelezz | what? YOU LIE |
| 17:27.35 | zenzelezz | next they'll fix Opifex male shoulderpads |
| 17:28.55 | Kraps | WHY ARE YOU EATING HERRING AT WORK |
| 17:29.55 | Kraps | THAT IS JUST WRONG BRO/SIS |
| 17:34.20 | Adys | oh sex |
| 17:34.22 | Adys | they're using qt |
| 17:34.36 | zenzelezz | neat |
| 17:35.10 | zenzelezz | did they improve their codecs/audio quality? |
| 17:36.06 | zenzelezz | hm, site claims they did. May have to try it again now |
| 17:36.37 | wereHamster | Adys: I bet it still doesn't work properly with linux :( |
| 17:37.11 | Adys | Im testing it atm, it looks fine |
| 17:37.32 | wereHamster | what does it use? OSS, alsa, pulseaudio? |
| 17:37.40 | Adys | alsa |
| 17:37.40 | zenzelezz | "For starters, both the Client and Server are now available as a flexible cross-platform solution for Windows (32bit and 64bit), Mac OS X (Intel and PPC) and Linux (32bit and 64bit). All platforms are 100% feature compatible and feature rich so regardless of which platform you use, all new features will be available across all platforms upon TeamSpeak 3's launch date." |
| 17:37.44 | Adys | works fine with pulse too |
| 17:38.04 | Adys | i cant get my usb microphone to work though but i think its a phonon config issue |
| 17:38.04 | Fisker | sure Lunessa |
| 17:38.15 | Adys | they got neat new keyboard shortcuts too |
| 17:38.23 | Adys | but |
| 17:38.30 | Adys | I dont know if I can connect to ts3 servers |
| 17:38.31 | Adys | er |
| 17:38.34 | Adys | ts2 servers |
| 17:38.41 | ccox | zenzelezz: how many years have they been promising to update teamspeak? |
| 17:38.44 | nevcairiel | afaik, you can't |
| 17:38.47 | nevcairiel | needs ts3 server too |
| 17:38.51 | Kraps | whats teamspeak? |
| 17:38.52 | Adys | =( |
| 17:38.59 | durcyn | so, uh |
| 17:39.00 | Adys | a better ventrilo |
| 17:39.01 | zenzelezz | ccox: I don't really care how long as long as the now released version works |
| 17:39.06 | durcyn | how much of ts3 do you think was lifted wholly from mumble |
| 17:39.27 | Adys | http://forum.teamspeak.com/showthread.php?t=46534 |
| 17:39.36 | zenzelezz | what licence is Mumble? |
| 17:39.54 | durcyn | bsd |
| 17:40.03 | ccox | wow,, they finally delivered something, I'm amazed |
| 17:40.13 | zenzelezz | then it wouldn't bother me if they took all of Mumble |
| 17:40.22 | Adys | TeamSpeak 3 is a complete re-write of the product from the ground up. Previous versions of TeamSpeak were written in Pascal, a much older programming language with many limitations |
| 17:40.24 | ccox | I had figured teamspeak 3 would ship with the next Duke Nukem.... |
| 17:40.24 | Adys | What |
| 17:41.17 | ccox | and it's currently in beta, not released |
| 17:41.18 | nevcairiel | TS2 was object pascal? eww |
| 17:41.19 | zenzelezz | interesting, TS2 was Pascal, TS3 is C++ |
| 17:41.21 | Adys | Therefore, you cannot connect to a TeamSpeak 3 server using a TeamSpeak 2 client, nor can you connect to a TeamSpeak 2 server using a TeamSpeak 3 client. |
| 17:41.22 | Adys | :( |
| 17:41.30 | Kraps | ccox: yahtzee says in his new video that duke nukem forever is too awesome to get an award |
| 17:41.31 | wereHamster | Adys: heh, it should even support ipv6 :) |
| 17:41.40 | Adys | yeah |
| 17:42.03 | ccox | Adys: what does the programming language have to do with binary/protocol compatibility? |
| 17:42.12 | Adys | nothing? |
| 17:42.17 | durcyn | still sounds like they ripped off murmur </grumble> |
| 17:42.18 | Adys | i find it fucked up ts2 was in pascal |
| 17:43.03 | ccox | eh, it's a language, if it works, fine |
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| 17:43.30 | Adys | it doesnt |
| 17:44.03 | nevcairiel | pascal doesnt "work", its so painful :P |
| 17:44.15 | zenzelezz | Pascal should really find its own END block |
| 17:44.30 | durcyn | my first cs class was pascal, i'm convinced it damaged me even worse than BASIC ever could |
| 17:44.34 | Ackis | Return to Ostagar is NOW available for Xbox 360. It will be coming later today for PC users and soon for the PS3. Check Xbox Live 4 details |
| 17:44.35 | Ackis | w00t |
| 17:44.45 | durcyn | did... |
| 17:44.50 | nevcairiel | wtf is return to ostagar? |
| 17:44.50 | durcyn | did bioware just use '4' instead of '4' |
| 17:44.52 | durcyn | er |
| 17:44.53 | durcyn | instad of 'for' |
| 17:44.55 | durcyn | god |
| 17:45.01 | Ackis | durcyn: twitter |
| 17:45.05 | nevcairiel | durcyn: you cant even bring your mind to do it, eh? |
| 17:45.13 | durcyn | nevcairiel: i just hurt my own brain :( |
| 17:45.42 | nevcairiel | twitters length limit is just there to force people to use silly internet shorthands |
| 17:45.46 | Ackis | durcyn: they ran out of characters!!! :P |
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| 17:46.47 | nevcairiel | man i hate pages that require cookies to even show their content |
| 17:47.00 | nevcairiel | for user account sure, fine, i'll give you that |
| 17:47.07 | nevcairiel | but for their fucking content |
| 17:47.14 | cbreak | XBox Live 4 is the fourth version of XBox Live... |
| 17:47.26 | nicoli_s | have you beaten it out yet ackis? |
| 17:47.53 | Ackis | haven't beat the game... if that's what you mean... |
| 17:48.14 | durcyn | how can you not finish DAO, the end is mindlessly easy |
| 17:48.45 | Kraps | no spoilers!!! |
| 17:48.48 | Ackis | I'm not at 1k/1k :P I've only done 2 playthroughs :P |
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| 17:50.08 | Kraps | i have a hard time replaying games |
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| 17:54.08 | Adys | wereHamster: Well, I for one won't be using wine for teamspeak anymore |
| 17:54.41 | Fisker | even oculus would be a welcome break from Halls of Lightning and Halls of stone |
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| 17:55.04 | Ackis | Fisker: not playing wow is a great break :P |
| 17:56.35 | Kraps | Fisker: good dps makes them bearable |
| 17:57.03 | nevcairiel | i got alot of halls of stone too, lightning not so much |
| 17:57.17 | wereHamster | Adys: I haven't used TS in years, but it's good to know that version 3 was finally released |
| 17:57.47 | nicoli_s | i think its still in beta |
| 17:57.53 | Adys | its still in alpha |
| 17:58.02 | Adys | Im trying to convince my gm to switch to a ts3 server |
| 17:58.39 | wereHamster | Adys: ts3 still alpha? |
| 17:58.42 | Adys | yes |
| 17:58.45 | Adys | but it works quite fine |
| 17:58.49 | Adys | better than ts2. |
| 17:59.03 | wereHamster | why do they have it then big on the frontpage? |
| 17:59.07 | Stanzilla | beta, not alpha |
| 17:59.20 | Adys | hmm |
| 17:59.25 | Adys | yeah beta i guess |
| 18:00.06 | Stanzilla | released on dezember 19th |
| 18:00.15 | Stanzilla | *c |
| 18:02.09 | Kraps | omg #10 is terrible http://www.11points.com/News-Politics/11_Most_Painfully_Obvious_Newspaper_Articles_Ever |
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| 18:17.51 | Ackis | hey does anyone here have a wii fit? |
| 18:18.32 | nicoli_s | im gonna get one, why? |
| 18:18.52 | Ackis | curious about its specs/usefullness |
| 18:19.36 | nicoli_s | well ive used it alot at my friends and its def fun, dunno how much workout it really achieves, but its good for doing toning exercises more than anything |
| 18:19.51 | nicoli_s | and the one where you have to jump over obstacles and dodge chains and shit is way cool |
| 18:20.02 | Ackis | damn you have to use it for it to work eh? :P |
| 18:20.32 | nicoli_s | purty much |
| 18:21.22 | zenzelezz | Ackis: as for usefulness, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v31qxrXsxv0 |
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| 18:22.56 | Ackis | ty |
| 18:23.20 | Ackis | ohh tyvm |
| 18:23.31 | Fisker | http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/images/4/2010/01/500x_google_3.jpg <-lol |
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| 18:36.16 | Fisker | they should have the fixture fixed jnwhiteh |
| 18:37.15 | foxlit | Kraps: probably not. |
| 18:37.51 | Kraps | foxlit: you talkin to me? |
| 18:38.05 | foxlit | With about an hour of latency, sure. |
| 18:38.29 | Kraps | what about? |
| 18:38.38 | foxlit | something about renting movies. |
| 18:38.58 | foxlit | And the lack of anything interesting coming to theaters in 2010. |
| 18:39.16 | Kraps | ah right |
| 18:39.28 | Thunder_Child | what about the sherlock holmes one? |
| 18:40.21 | foxlit | The promotional stuff looks good. It premiered in 2009, so I suppose I can drop that one. |
| 18:40.27 | Hjalte | jnwhiteh: Releasing via Twitter now? :) |
| 18:40.39 | jnwhiteh | Hjalte: I dont know which forum i'm going to be posting on |
| 18:40.44 | jnwhiteh | so this is a limited release |
| 18:40.56 | Hjalte | Yeah, it is a mess with all the forums. |
| 18:41.10 | jnwhiteh | I've asked Paul if I can post it there |
| 18:41.20 | jnwhiteh | just want his permission first |
| 18:42.27 | foxlit | twitter actually makes for a nice addon update notification mechanism. |
| 18:43.12 | Kraps | http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness |
| 18:44.10 | jnwhiteh | foxlit: a support nightmare tho =) |
| 18:44.29 | foxlit | jnwhiteh: assuming you want to do support :) |
| 18:44.36 | jnwhiteh | I always do |
| 18:45.13 | Fisker | http://maps.google.dk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=da&geocode=&q=36+Walton+Street&sll=55.869147,11.228027&sspn=11.549752,33.815918&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=36+Walton+St,+Oxford+OX2+6,+Storbritannien&ll=51.759234,-1.265016&spn=0.012418,0.033023&z=16&layer=c&cbll=51.75932,-1.265119&panoid=1GvHIoUnyXACKykMvSDXBA&cbp=12,242.2,,0,20.1 |
| 18:45.16 | Fisker | you can't hide jnwhiteh |
| 18:45.29 | jnwhiteh | Fisker: enjoy my HTC Hero! |
| 18:45.44 | jnwhiteh | its rooted, kk? |
| 18:45.53 | jnwhiteh | still under warranty too |
| 18:45.57 | Fisker | :o |
| 18:46.08 | nevcairiel | lol |
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| 18:48.35 | Ackis | foxlit: http://twitter.com/MMOUI/wow-ui-devs |
| 18:49.10 | Fisker | they've made twitter slightly useful? |
| 18:50.05 | jnwhiteh | lol |
| 18:50.12 | jnwhiteh | i'm androided on the wow-ui-devs =) |
| 18:50.22 | jnwhiteh | i've |
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| 18:51.04 | Ackis | nerd! |
| 18:52.40 | Ackis | so, am I a cruel bastard for not really caring about the haiti earthquake? |
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| 18:53.03 | foxlit | My lacking moral system does not support that conclusion. |
| 18:54.22 | Thunder_Child | Ackis: no |
| 18:54.38 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: Iron Man II? |
| 18:54.45 | foxlit | Thunder_Child: booooring. |
| 18:54.55 | nevcairiel | there is a iron man 2 coming? |
| 18:55.11 | Thunder_Child | in 2010 |
| 18:55.15 | Ackis | there's an alien movie like the 4th encounter or something like that coming out |
| 18:55.16 | nevcairiel | we have 2010 |
| 18:55.28 | Thunder_Child | yes, it's comming out this year |
| 18:56.06 | nevcairiel | I liked 1, hope its not just a money-maker-sequel |
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| 18:56.48 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: from paris with love. though i do find travlota to be a better bad guy. |
| 18:57.09 | Ackis | what about a new harry potter movie? isn't that coming out this year? |
| 18:57.10 | foxlit | Haven't heard of that. |
| 18:57.41 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1179034/ |
| 18:58.01 | foxlit | Thunder_Child: http://www.apple.com/trailers/lions_gate/frompariswithlove/ |
| 18:58.42 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: i'll watch in ~ 10 hours |
| 18:58.51 | foxlit | The movie? |
| 18:59.00 | Thunder_Child | the link |
| 18:59.01 | Ackis | Legion looks cool too |
| 18:59.16 | foxlit | Don't really have to. |
| 18:59.34 | foxlit | IMDB just didn't link to a trailer, so I wanted to note a different source :) |
| 18:59.46 | Thunder_Child | or alice in wonderland if you happen to be a depp fanatic |
| 18:59.50 | foxlit | Having said that, no, does not look remotely interesting. |
| 19:00.10 | Ackis | sex in the city 2 |
| 19:00.17 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: actually it does link to it |
| 19:00.34 | foxlit | Thunder_Child: oh? I clicked on "trailers and stuff" and it came up with "we got nada" |
| 19:01.08 | foxlit | Alice does look interesting. |
| 19:01.25 | Ackis | robin hood |
| 19:01.28 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1179034/trailers i got a bunch |
| 19:01.37 | foxlit | "We're sorry. We don't have any videos that match your query." |
| 19:01.43 | Thunder_Child | maybe you have a flash blocker, etc. |
| 19:01.53 | foxlit | Not as such, no. |
| 19:01.56 | Ackis | http://www.youtube.com/user/hollywoodstreams |
| 19:01.57 | Thunder_Child | odd...i see 11 |
| 19:02.11 | foxlit | Maybe IMDB has jumped onto the "You're not in US, and therefore aren't worth our time" train. |
| 19:02.48 | Ackis | I don't see any trailers on that link either Thunder_Child |
| 19:02.59 | Ackis | but that hollywoodstreams has a lot of trailers on it |
| 19:05.22 | Thunder_Child | lol http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1231587/ |
| 19:07.54 | Kraps | book of eli is out yet? |
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| 19:08.10 | Thunder_Child | this month sometime i think |
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| 19:12.05 | Adys | anyone worked with the win32 api? |
| 19:12.24 | Thunder_Child | the MS guys? |
| 19:12.36 | Adys | I need some very simplistic file prompt |
| 19:12.44 | Adys | basically a shellview and a message box |
| 19:12.47 | Ackis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJPbozRomX4 FFXIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII trailer!!!!! |
| 19:12.53 | Adys | mustnt use mfc, .net or shit like that |
| 19:13.18 | Adys | any idea where to find docs for this? (msdn is a POS to browse) |
| 19:19.24 | Kraps | Ackis: i dont think thats a real number |
| 19:19.35 | Ackis | Kraps: NEIN! |
| 19:20.07 | Kraps | 9? |
| 19:21.04 | Thunder_Child | mean no |
| 19:21.12 | Thunder_Child | means* |
| 19:22.40 | Ackis | niet! |
| 19:22.41 | Ackis | nein! |
| 19:22.42 | Ackis | non! |
| 19:22.44 | Ackis | no! |
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| 19:25.46 | NeoTron | Mass Effect 2 soon! |
| 19:25.55 | Ackis | truth |
| 19:25.58 | Kraps | Thunder_Child: i know :) |
| 19:26.04 | Kraps | NeoTron: win |
| 19:26.41 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: TRON! |
| 19:27.14 | NeoTron | I got a preorder availability notice from Stardock's steam-like service Impulse.. but no preorder on steam yet. |
| 19:27.23 | Thunder_Child | s/!/ LEGACY!/ |
| 19:27.30 | Ackis | NeoTron: for ME2? |
| 19:28.15 | foxlit | Thunder_Child: glowy motorbikes and absolute nonsense? |
| 19:28.39 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: you dont diserve to live |
| 19:28.39 | Ackis | foxlit: you aren't a tron fan? :( did you look at legion? |
| 19:28.48 | Ackis | there's also a new shrek movie in the works |
| 19:28.53 | Ackis | and sex in the city 2 |
| 19:28.53 | foxlit | Shrek is dead. |
| 19:28.56 | foxlit | d-e-a-d. |
| 19:28.57 | Ackis | you might like those |
| 19:29.23 | Kraps | Ackis: the third movie is for kids? lol |
| 19:29.29 | Ackis | sex-in-the-city |
| 19:29.37 | Ackis | Kraps: isn't it the 4th movie? |
| 19:29.50 | Thunder_Child | yes, 4th |
| 19:29.54 | Kraps | talking about the 3rd |
| 19:30.29 | foxlit | I'm going to judge sex in the city by its title and just ignore it outright. |
| 19:30.53 | foxlit | [besides, isn't it "and" not "in"?] |
| 19:31.16 | nevcairiel | yes, it is. |
| 19:31.53 | Ackis | meh |
| 19:31.54 | Ackis | w/e |
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| 19:39.49 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: Robin Hood? |
| 19:39.54 | Thunder_Child | http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0955308/ |
| 19:39.54 | Kraps | foxlit: you watch tv? |
| 19:40.12 | foxlit | Kraps: occasionally. |
| 19:40.24 | Kraps | any shows you like? |
| 19:40.47 | foxlit | most of the bbc scifi line-up is good. |
| 19:40.51 | foxlit | House. NCIS. |
| 19:41.18 | foxlit | Numbers. |
| 19:41.26 | Thunder_Child | Numb3rs |
| 19:41.28 | Kraps | ncis woot |
| 19:41.37 | nevcairiel | you consider house and numbers scifi? |
| 19:41.40 | foxlit | cba to violate the English language to spell their show title. |
| 19:41.43 | nevcairiel | or was that unrelated? :P |
| 19:41.44 | Thunder_Child | so far i like all 3 |
| 19:41.47 | foxlit | nevcairiel: no; those are not BBC shows :) |
| 19:41.58 | nevcairiel | what do i know |
| 19:42.02 | nevcairiel | cant watch them on tv |
| 19:42.15 | Thunder_Child | last bbc thing i watched was are you being served |
| 19:42.20 | Thunder_Child | loved that show |
| 19:42.22 | foxlit | Doctor Who, Torchwood |
| 19:42.30 | Kraps | foxlit: they havent run out of math theories yet? :) |
| 19:42.33 | foxlit | Prime Eval? |
| 19:42.42 | nevcairiel | prime eval was weird |
| 19:42.53 | Kraps | or do they reuse them? |
| 19:42.53 | nevcairiel | or however its spelled |
| 19:43.03 | nevcairiel | Kraps: all comes down to game theory anyway |
| 19:43.18 | foxlit | Kraps: they're only really very tangentially related to the plot anyway. |
| 19:43.38 | Kraps | but thats how they solve them no? |
| 19:43.56 | foxlit | Although I think mathematica (?) has a site dedicated to tracking and explaining what they used in each episode. |
| 19:44.16 | nevcairiel | Its almost worth watching just to catch them explaining stuff like IRC :P |
| 19:45.04 | Kraps | oh fringe had some kind of boat example to explain irc |
| 19:45.10 | Cide | or CSI for the tweets |
| 19:45.32 | nevcairiel | if you havent seen it; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQ its awesome funny :P |
| 19:46.28 | Kraps | foxlit: what about Tim Mcgee? does he make sense usually? |
| 19:46.50 | olafski | ackis: I tried startup delayer.. found 6 programs that I thought could start later, so I delayed those.. 2 of them reinstalled themselves right away so that didn't work. I don't think it's worth keeping for just 2 programs =) |
| 19:46.56 | olafski | 4* |
| 19:47.37 | foxlit | Kraps: no. |
| 19:47.45 | Kraps | lol really? |
| 19:47.47 | foxlit | Basically, most science in crime shows is filler material. |
| 19:48.18 | foxlit | They may occasionally stumble onto the general gist of what they're talking about, but it's essentially just drama. |
| 19:48.19 | nevcairiel | It just has to sound sciency enough that its believable |
| 19:48.28 | Kraps | Gibbs never lets him finish anyway :p |
| 19:49.05 | Ackis | olafski: ty for testing it out |
| 19:49.38 | olafski | ackis: my computer starts a bit faster now though, since I decided to check out what actually starts ;p |
| 19:50.02 | Grum | are you on a boat to Nev? |
| 19:50.13 | nevcairiel | wut? |
| 19:50.19 | Mikk | nevcairiel: scientology? |
| 19:50.51 | nevcairiel | is confused |
| 19:50.58 | foxlit | "connecting to port_6667 of #channel irc" |
| 19:52.05 | foxlit | vaguely related to what they were doing, completely fake. |
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| 19:53.37 | foxlit | BBC tends to do better since they seem to be focused on detective work rather than science; or have a sci-fi setting to begin with. |
| 19:54.25 | Fisker | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU |
| 19:58.28 | Fisker | do you understand foxlit ? |
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| 20:07.39 | Lunessa | ... fisker why do you insist on linking the "stupid" things. I feel like I just watched Sandra B in the Net use "whois" to get the FBI file of the villain. |
| 20:08.43 | Mikk | hahahaha |
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| 20:12.57 | Ackis | ME2 on stema |
| 20:12.58 | Ackis | steam |
| 20:12.59 | Ackis | http://store.steampowered.com/agecheck/app/901242/ |
| 20:14.30 | Kraps_ | think they will make it $44? |
| 20:14.38 | Torhal | Ackis: Heh, that woman in the picture looks like Sarah from Chuck, only with black hair. |
| 20:16.03 | Kraps_ | has a strange moral dilemma |
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| 20:20.33 | Kraps_ | before i found steam i had no problem d/ling games off warez sites,but now i cant i.e. MW2 is too expensive but i cant bring myself to d/l it through warez, even though the utilitarian in me sees no problem with it |
| 20:21.21 | durcyn | fully half of pirated binaries are infested with malcode, why not buy the real thing |
| 20:22.50 | Kraps_ | durcyn: pirated stuff is free and i'm knowledgeable enough to watch for malware |
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| 20:29.54 | |Jelly| | hugs cogwheel |
| 20:32.05 | cogwheel | hugs |Jelly| |
| 20:32.34 | |Jelly| | I just upgraded phones. :P |
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| 20:33.40 | NeoTron | Ackis: ah it's pre-orderable now |
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| 20:34.03 | cogwheel | new model iPhone? |
| 20:34.47 | NeoTron | cogwheel: I sure as heck hope not :P |
| 20:34.54 | Fisker | old Ackis |
| 20:34.54 | cogwheel | me too |
| 20:34.55 | cogwheel | :P |
| 20:35.15 | |Jelly| | Yup! And guess what? iDon't have your issues ... still! |
| 20:35.24 | cogwheel | iDon't either! |
| 20:35.25 | cogwheel | :P |
| 20:35.28 | cogwheel | gogo software update |
| 20:35.41 | foxlit | "Kraps: ... i'm knowledgeable enough to watch for malware" << I'm not confident of my abilities to track malware written by people who crack DRM malware. |
| 20:35.42 | |Jelly| | Actually, more than anything I was up for an upgrade and my roomie wanted an iPhone so I gave her mine and got the upgrade. |
| 20:35.48 | Ackis | NeoTron: aye finally today |
| 20:36.51 | NeoTron | Ackis: well it's funny since I literally checked this morning, like around 8:40am PST |
| 20:36.54 | NeoTron | :) |
| 20:37.05 | NeoTron | because I got the preorder available email from Impulse |
| 20:37.36 | Kraps_ | foxlit: urgh |
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| 20:38.46 | Cide | there's a new iphone model coming up? |
| 20:38.55 | Cide | is there a "changelog" |
| 20:38.57 | Cide | ? |
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| 20:39.40 | foxlit | There's always a new iphone model coming up. |
| 20:39.50 | foxlit | Like annually. |
| 20:40.15 | Ackis | NeoTron: I know, that's why I linked it in here for you :) |
| 20:40.21 | Thunder_Child | "seriously iPhone. stop autocorrecting all my fucks into ducks. you're making all my strong worded texts look harmless and adorable." |
| 20:40.44 | Cide | foxlit, yeah, I suppose you're right |
| 20:41.31 | Ackis | Thunder_Child: I'm going to fuck your mother! :P |
| 20:41.37 | Ackis | s/fuck/duck/ |
| 20:41.42 | |Jelly| | My phone seemed to learn fuck. |
| 20:41.51 | |Jelly| | I don't ducking asp anymore! |
| 20:41.56 | Ackis | man I failed at that and now I come across as an asshole |
| 20:42.17 | Thunder_Child | you make it sound like you werent one already |
| 20:42.17 | Kraps_ | did anyone see the spoof apple conference? i think collegehumor made it, it has a guy playing steve jobs and hes unveiling the apple eye, never says what it does, just talks about how it looks and things like that |
| 20:42.36 | Ackis | Thunder_Child: not THAT big of one :P |
| 20:43.47 | Thunder_Child | Ackis: if you say so |
| 20:44.07 | Ackis | :( |
| 20:45.48 | Fisker | slaps Ackis around a bit with a large trout |
| 20:47.02 | Ackis | I'm crying Fisker stop it! |
| 20:47.29 | Kraps_ | ~lart Fisker's trout |
| 20:47.29 | purl | gives Fisker's trout a good seeing to |
| 20:47.59 | Kraps_ | weaksauce |
| 20:48.01 | Kraps_ | ~lart Fisker's trout |
| 20:48.01 | purl | drops a truckload of VAXen on Fisker's trout |
| 20:49.40 | NeoTron | Ackis: ah! |
| 20:50.01 | foxlit | RankWatch spammed me :( |
| 20:50.55 | Kraps_ | zomg u NUB |
| 20:51.11 | foxlit | Was fine! |
| 20:51.31 | foxlit | I was spamming Moonfire rank 13 after casting Moonfire rank 14 |
| 20:51.51 | Kraps_ | why? |
| 20:52.17 | foxlit | Because you occasionally want to spam moonfire for no good reason. |
| 20:52.39 | Kraps_ | so you have rank 14... |
| 20:52.49 | foxlit | "But why not spam rank 14 moonfire, then?" I hear you ask? |
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| 20:53.09 | Kraps_ | do i even need to? |
| 20:53.19 | foxlit | Rhetorical device. |
| 20:53.29 | Kraps_ | yeah |
| 20:53.40 | foxlit | Because a significant component of moonfire damage is the DoT it leaves on the target. Spamming rank 14 would prevent that from ever ticking, yielding less dps from rank 14 spam than from rank 14 followed by rank 13 spam. |
| 20:54.18 | nevcairiel | and i thought people glyph moonfire and screw the direct damage |
| 20:54.55 | foxlit | If you were balance, you would do that. |
| 20:55.22 | Kraps_ | "a more powerful spell is already in use" |
| 20:55.24 | Kraps_ | i see |
| 20:55.31 | NeoTron | http://i.imgur.com/Fg0eg.png nicely done fedex! |
| 20:55.47 | foxlit | [And spamming moonfire as a dps spec is quite pointless -- got better things to spam] |
| 20:56.05 | Kraps_ | what spec are you? |
| 20:56.09 | Fisker | sweet NeoTron |
| 20:56.10 | NightHawkTheSane | NeoTron: impressive |
| 20:56.24 | Arrowmaster | lol |
| 20:56.53 | nevcairiel | wait wait, it went from CA to US over france, while stopping in mephis twice? |
| 20:56.59 | nevcairiel | memphis* |
| 20:57.09 | Kraps_ | foxlit: |
| 20:57.18 | nevcairiel | it even was twice in france? :P |
| 20:57.49 | Grum | around the world in 24 hrs?:P |
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| 21:01.41 | foxlit | Kraps_: restoration. |
| 21:02.22 | Kraps_ | foxlit: you have a dual? |
| 21:02.54 | NeoTron | well it was intended for netherlands |
| 21:03.03 | NeoTron | but went US -> france -> us -> france -> us |
| 21:03.04 | foxlit | yes |
| 21:03.18 | NeoTron | where it is now pending the next step in its exciting journey |
| 21:04.05 | nevcairiel | lol |
| 21:04.18 | NeoTron | actually add canada => us at the start :P |
| 21:05.06 | Kraps_ | why france -> us -> france -> us? |
| 21:05.18 | nevcairiel | because they messed up, obviously |
| 21:05.38 | Kraps_ | netherlands is thataway ---> |
| 21:07.19 | NeoTron | Kraps_: that would be the wtf |
| 21:07.35 | NeoTron | With any luck it's stuck in an infinite loop and will keep bouncing between US and FR for all eternity |
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| 21:18.28 | Thunder_Child | ~dict gettysbvrg |
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| 21:27.16 | Adys | I'm not the only one dreaming |
| 21:27.27 | Adys | there are eve online musics in ICC |
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| 21:28.56 | nicoli_s | sue! |
| 21:29.10 | Ackis | heh lego router http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE7BV80ia8k |
| 21:29.53 | nicoli_s | legos are awesome |
| 21:29.58 | nicoli_s | that new lego mmo looks fucking badass |
| 21:31.22 | Shirik | !reload |
| 21:31.23 | Shiibot | Cannot reload AI. Using fail safes. ai.lua:252: '}' expected (to close '{' at line 248) near '"http://96.238.138.57/iframe.html"' |
| 21:31.24 | intangir | hahahah |
| 21:31.30 | Shirik | er |
| 21:31.37 | Shirik | crap, and whatever you do don't click that link |
| 21:31.40 | intangir | my kid plays lego starwars, lego batman, and lego indiana jones all the time |
| 21:31.46 | Shirik | !reload |
| 21:31.47 | Shiibot | AI routines & configuration reloaded |
| 21:32.16 | nevcairiel | Shirik: you know by saying that, everyone clicks |
| 21:32.24 | Shirik | you do that and you're likely to get k-lined |
| 21:32.38 | nevcairiel | i read the global notice :P |
| 21:33.18 | nevcairiel | not like that would matter, my irc connection is proxied |
| 21:33.23 | Ackis | Shirik: I clicked it! |
| 21:33.26 | Ackis | pr0n! |
| 21:33.39 | Ackis | not like it wouldn't be the first time I got k-lined |
| 21:33.46 | nevcairiel | haha |
| 21:33.48 | Ackis | (ever funnier is getting Kaelten k-lined) |
| 21:33.53 | kd3 | oh wow. that's pretty cheap what it's doing |
| 21:34.06 | nevcairiel | indeed |
| 21:35.06 | Ackis | so, when google declares war on china, who's gonna win? |
| 21:35.08 | Ackis | china has nukes |
| 21:35.12 | Ackis | google and droid |
| 21:35.30 | Ackis | meh i can't type worth shit today |
| 21:35.45 | nevcairiel | its not like google has a big central place they could actually nuke |
| 21:36.02 | nevcairiel | .. without being re-nuked by the US :P |
| 21:36.11 | NightHawkTheSane | it doesnt matter who actually wins, google will just only let everyone else know that they won |
| 21:36.15 | NightHawkTheSane | and thus they win. |
| 21:36.20 | Shirik | Ackis: Google loses to nobody |
| 21:36.37 | nevcairiel | except in china, everyone will think they won behind their big firewall |
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| 21:41.05 | Kaelten | ~lart Ackis |
| 21:41.05 | purl | pries Ackis's back open with a screwdriver and flashes a new bootldr to Ackis |
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| 21:47.03 | cogwheel | fire brigade choirs seldom sing songs about Marcel Proust |
| 21:48.07 | Fisker | slaps cogwheel around a bit with a large trout |
| 21:48.11 | Fisker | stopped |
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| 22:13.12 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: Prince of Persia? |
| 22:13.23 | foxlit | Thunder_Child: I'm not sure that even has a plot. |
| 22:13.40 | foxlit | (that isn't pinched from a video game) |
| 22:13.47 | Zhinjio- | hey folks. Anyone have any sound card recommendations? |
| 22:13.53 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: Marmaduke? |
| 22:14.01 | Zhinjio- | Its been years since I bought one, and I can't find any good review sites |
| 22:14.04 | foxlit | whatthewho? |
| 22:14.04 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: yes |
| 22:14.35 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1392197/ |
| 22:14.44 | foxlit | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marmaduke ? |
| 22:14.44 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: A-Team? |
| 22:15.20 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: yes |
| 22:15.27 | foxlit | The A-Team concept is interesting, but I doubt there is much of a point in resurrecting a TV show. |
| 22:15.38 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: The Karate Kid |
| 22:15.40 | Thunder_Child | ? |
| 22:15.57 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: Toy Story 3? |
| 22:16.32 | Thunder_Child | foxlit: The last airbender? |
| 22:17.07 | foxlit | The 42-second trailer for marmaduke google found isn't all that impressive. |
| 22:19.25 | foxlit | Karate Kid doesn't really need a remake. Toy Story has a 3 in title. |
| 22:19.25 | ZorbaTHut | zhinjio, all modern sound cards are terrible |
| 22:19.33 | ZorbaTHut | just absolutely awful |
| 22:22.26 | Zhinjio- | ZorbaTHut: hrm. I won't be using it for music, just gaming. |
| 22:22.27 | foxlit | Thunder_Child: Last Airbender (teehee, they dropped "Avatar" from title) trailer doesn't really inspire any interest; I'm not entirely convinced that franchise needs a movie. Plus, the cartoon finished the story. |
| 22:22.43 | Thunder_Child | you seriously knocking a movice because it has a 3 in the title? |
| 22:22.57 | Thunder_Child | movie* |
| 22:23.33 | ZorbaTHut | zhinjio, the problem is that modern computers are fast enough that hardware-accelerated sound cards are pretty much pointless |
| 22:23.55 | ZorbaTHut | but people need to have something to compete on with big numbers, so all the sound card manufacturers make huge bloated buggy drivers that do a worse job than if the driver just didn't exist |
| 22:24.09 | ZorbaTHut | and then skimp on actual, you know, *sound quality* |
| 22:24.15 | Zhinjio- | nods |
| 22:24.19 | Arrowmaster | i think the main reason people have even heard of the last airbender is because its an easy way to get 1000 gamerscore on XBL in about 6 minutes |
| 22:24.44 | foxlit | Thunder_Child: my actual complaint might be more along the lines of me not caring at all for that story. |
| 22:24.53 | ZorbaTHut | I'm currently using http://www.headphone.com/headphone-amps/headroom-micro-dac.php this little thing and it's doing a great job, but it's only really suitable for headphones and it may be a bit pricey :) |
| 22:24.59 | foxlit | In a why-do-they-persist sort of fashion. |
| 22:25.25 | ZorbaTHut | I'm not really sure what to suggest though - out of my last three computers, the only hardware I've had trouble with has been *every single sound card I've bought*. |
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| 22:30.02 | ccox | "US evangelical preacher Pat Robertson levied blame Wednesday for the devastating earthquake in Haiti on Haitians themselves, saying that the country "swore a pact to the devil" at its creation." |
| 22:30.14 | ccox | Wow, can he get any less Christian? |
| 22:30.27 | foxlit | Having somehow avoided toy story and its original sequel, the TS3 trailer brings "Why do I care about those toys?" to my mind :( |
| 22:30.50 | Thunder_Child | because it's funny and amusing |
| 22:30.58 | Lunessa | ZorbaTHut: Creative Labs = Scions of a hardware Satan |
| 22:31.31 | Thunder_Child | lol moot is the #1 sexy geek of 2009 according to wired |
| 22:31.38 | nicoli_s | damnit, you cant talk about toy story and team speak in the same day |
| 22:31.43 | Thunder_Child | felicia day gets #4 |
| 22:31.46 | nicoli_s | damn things sharing abbreviations |
| 22:32.45 | Lunessa | Felicia Day *sigh* *drool* *wistful sigh* |
| 22:33.34 | nicoli_s | i never understood why people were so obsessed with her, what did she do other than that guild show? |
| 22:33.50 | Arrowmaster | foxlit: i can think of one reason, maybe theyll add new characters so debian will have more release names before they run out, although that will still take a while |
| 22:33.57 | NightHawkTheSane | nicoli_s: she also did dr horrible. |
| 22:34.01 | NightHawkTheSane | but besides that, she's hot. |
| 22:34.15 | Thunder_Child | nicoli_s: i dont understand it but thats becuse i dont find her particularly attractive |
| 22:34.19 | Thunder_Child | because* |
| 22:34.25 | Zhinjio- | ok... so who's using SSDs as a boot drive already? |
| 22:34.35 | ccox | http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1260407/ -- I think she's done a bit more than "the guild" |
| 22:35.38 | NightHawkTheSane | ccox: most of those are bit parts though |
| 22:35.44 | ccox | ok, true |
| 22:35.50 | Lunessa | Still, she "does it" for me. |
| 22:35.52 | nicoli_s | oh she was on buffy? oh then shes teh aw3some |
| 22:36.04 | ccox | but she's intelligent enough to write well, and kinda cute |
| 22:36.05 | NeoTron | I just find the guild really amusing |
| 22:36.07 | NightHawkTheSane | dr horrible & the guild are what pushed her into nerd fandom |
| 22:36.09 | nicoli_s | i always thought you were female from yer nick lunessa |
| 22:36.23 | Thunder_Child | nicoli_s: please tell me that was <sarcasm> |
| 22:36.27 | NeoTron | nicoli_s: and even if he was, would that prevent it? :P |
| 22:36.33 | NightHawkTheSane | ccox: yeah, the intelligent part is nice. :) |
| 22:36.49 | ccox | bachelor's in mathematics |
| 22:36.51 | Lunessa | nicoli_s: Even if I were female, I'd probably still want to nail her. I'm just syaing. |
| 22:36.53 | nicoli_s | neo, totally kidding, josh whedon can go choke on a bomb |
| 22:36.54 | NightHawkTheSane | shit, most of my female friends drool over her anyway. |
| 22:37.34 | Lunessa | And nicoli_s Lunessa has a man-parts, baby, yeah. |
| 22:37.53 | NightHawkTheSane | as long as you dont proceed to show them to us, please. |
| 22:38.53 | Lunessa | No, no. Private viewings are acceptable, to specific individuals on a appointment only basis. |
| 22:39.24 | Lopeppeppy | Lunessa, I do not wish to nail this female you're discussing. She's not that hot. |
| 22:39.45 | nicoli_s | seconds that |
| 22:39.46 | Lunessa | Lopeppeppy: *shrug* Lust is the the glands of the beholder. |
| 22:40.13 | NightHawkTheSane | gives Lunessa an "in" |
| 22:40.14 | Lopeppeppy | This is very true, but I'm usually a decent neutral judge of female lust-worthiness. I take your word that she's yummy |
| 22:40.33 | Lunessa | She's yummy. |
| 22:40.43 | NightHawkTheSane | Lopeppeppy: meh, to each their own, you know :) |
| 22:40.43 | ccox | yum, yum, yummy |
| 22:41.08 | Lopeppeppy | Put her in a uniform and I'll drool too, I promise. |
| 22:41.20 | Adys | who are you talking about? |
| 22:41.22 | NightHawkTheSane | .... |
| 22:41.24 | NightHawkTheSane | i'll be in my bunk. |
| 22:41.30 | Lopeppeppy | Exactly, NHTS. |
| 22:41.38 | Lunessa | But then, I can't name anyone here except maybe Amy "Drugwhore"-house that people would know that someone wouldn't find "yummy" |
| 22:41.39 | Lopeppeppy | Adys, Felicia Day, I believe. |
| 22:41.49 | Adys | shes hot :P |
| 22:42.28 | ccox | Lunessa: try Hillary Clinton or Janet Reno |
| 22:42.38 | ccox | some people still like Amy "Rehab" Winehouse |
| 22:42.40 | Adys | i saw her on ltm a week ago or so |
| 22:42.46 | Lunessa | ccox: Thanks for destroying my libido. |
| 22:42.52 | Adys | "hmm, seen her before, and she is hot." |
| 22:42.54 | Adys | "Oh yeah" |
| 22:42.58 | ccox | "bonershrinker |
| 22:43.01 | ccox | "! |
| 22:43.07 | ccox | best. SNL. skit. ever. |
| 22:43.22 | Thrae | Lunessa: If you're female, there's a new libido-enhancing drug out. |
| 22:43.48 | ccox | Thrae: you talking about "money" or "chocolate"? |
| 22:44.15 | zenzelezz | those don't increase libido, only willingness to play along sometimes |
| 22:44.24 | Lunessa | I am not female. http://www.flickr.com/photos/fizzboy/2224657032/ I'm SO not female. |
| 22:44.37 | Thrae | Sorry, your handle sounds female. |
| 22:44.43 | nicoli_s | people usually assume im female from my nick for some reason |
| 22:45.14 | Thrae | nicoli_s: No, I see a common italian or possibly greek male name |
| 22:45.14 | ccox | nicoli/nickoli - nah, not remotely female |
| 22:45.15 | zenzelezz | Lunessa: you're looking at the glass like you're wondering how to use it |
| 22:45.35 | Adys | people usually assume I'm female because I'm hot |
| 22:45.36 | Lunessa | I drank about half the bottle. |
| 22:45.43 | ccox | Thrae: also common in former soviet states |
| 22:46.35 | Thrae | Where as "Lunessa" not only has part of LUNA, the word for "moon", normally attributed to feminine characteristics, but also ends in both a vowel and "essa" which is normally attributed to female names. |
| 22:46.35 | ccox | (or would that be "slavic countries"?) |
| 22:47.02 | Lunessa | I used the name of a toon I was posting on from UI&M |
| 22:47.16 | Thrae | It's like "Iriel" which makes me keep thinking of "Ariel the little mermaid". |
| 22:47.42 | ccox | eh, it's IRC - same as an MMO: assume they're all male until proven otherwise |
| 22:47.48 | Adys | Or |
| 22:47.59 | ccox | and pictures on a webpage do not constitute proof |
| 22:48.00 | zenzelezz | hit on them all until they act awkward |
| 22:48.10 | Thrae | ccox: Oh, but WoW actually has a decent real female population. |
| 22:48.17 | Adys | Assume they're all female and throw up in disgust when you found out all the fantasies you've been lusting for are shattered in seconds when you find out the truth |
| 22:48.22 | Thrae | Then again, this is a DEVELOPMENT channel, so yes mostly male. |
| 22:48.22 | ccox | Thrae: so they tell you :-) |
| 22:48.32 | Thrae | ccox: So Blizzard tells us |
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| 22:48.43 | Thrae | ccox: Also, I'm pretty sure my Mom's female and she plays WoW |
| 22:48.47 | Lunessa | Actually, I think something like 40% of my guild is female. And ... a significant number of them are programmers. |
| 22:48.50 | Thrae | And so does my sister |
| 22:49.04 | ccox | Lunessa - which realm, I'm switching now.... |
| 22:49.13 | Lunessa | US, Kirin Tor. :P |
| 22:49.28 | Thrae | Females like the RP and standard PvE realms I hear, less PVP and RP-PVP |
| 22:49.36 | ccox | true |
| 22:50.00 | NightHawkTheSane | anyone know a good way to move the LFD icon on the minimap? |
| 22:50.08 | Lunessa | And, I'm out. |
| 22:50.10 | Adys | NightHawkTheSane: leave the queue |
| 22:51.03 | Thrae | The older and especially young female players tend to gravitate towards Alliance because of the multitude of pretty female races to pick, while in-between like Horde because Alliance tends to too often be full of (slightly more) immaturity |
| 22:51.35 | zenzelezz | "https can make your mail slower since encrypted data doesn't travel across the web as quickly as unencrypted data" - interesting, I didn't know the Internet slowed down encrypted data |
| 22:52.15 | kd3 | oh idiot. I should not have logged out in dalaran |
| 22:52.17 | kd3 | sighs |
| 22:52.40 | foxlit | zenzelezz: there tends to be more of it |
| 22:52.52 | zenzelezz | foxlit: I know that, but that's not what that sentence said |
| 22:52.53 | foxlit | so while it's misleading, it is not inaccurate. |
| 22:53.13 | Thrae | From my research, females playing male characters or rather monterous Horde or Alliance races is more of the exception and not the rule. They put in the "Dressing Room" not just for the boys, but also the ladies, and a lot of ladies I know do like to coordinate their Blood Elf / Human / Night Elf |
| 22:53.51 | Thrae | I'll dress like a clown if it'll net me the best stats! |
| 22:54.17 | Thrae | Clown Suit: +500 All Stats, but you look like a twit. |
| 22:54.34 | WobWork | Can't Sleep. Clowns will gank me. |
| 22:54.38 | kd3 | lol |
| 22:55.24 | zenzelezz | I remember in Anarchy Online, the general rule (unless you were dead set on PvPing) was "style over substance", since the stats didn't count quite so much |
| 22:57.50 | WobWork | Thrae: You might want to just check that your mom's female |
| 22:57.54 | WobWork | if you're not sure, and all... |
| 22:58.06 | WobWork | Just sayin |
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| 23:03.56 | Fisker | slaps kd3 around a bit with a large trout |
| 23:04.44 | kd3 | yay! |
| 23:04.44 | kd3 | [Chef's Hat] |
| 23:08.43 | Adys | grats |
| 23:08.54 | *** join/#wowuidev Ancu (n=c@ppp1.pm3-25.man-ch.nh.localnet.com) |
| 23:08.54 | Adys | Ive got 86 cooking awards, dunno what to do with them |
| 23:09.35 | Ancu | ~seen zorbathut |
| 23:09.38 | purl | zorbathut is currently on #wowuidev (2d 20h 6s). Has said a total of 123 messages. Is idling for 44m 13s, last said: 'I'm not really sure what to suggest though - out of my last three computers, the only hardware I've had trouble with has been *every single sound card I've bought*.'. |
| 23:09.48 | Ancu | ... |
| 23:09.48 | Ancu | take your time purl |
| 23:10.26 | Cloudwolf | ok well this is confusing as hell... for me any way |
| 23:10.31 | Ancu | Uhg, you there zorbathut |
| 23:10.45 | Cloudwolf | if i don't run a nil check i get errors if i run a nil check it flat out casues wow to freeze wtf O.o |
| 23:11.11 | Ancu | lol, need a better box then |
| 23:11.36 | zenzelezz | Cloudwolf: so show us your code |
| 23:11.40 | Cloudwolf | well ancu ill pastey waht causes my wow to feeze |
| 23:12.38 | Adys | ~ping |
| 23:12.39 | purl | ~pong |
| 23:12.42 | Fisker | what item slot is gloves? |
| 23:12.50 | zenzelezz | hands |
| 23:13.01 | Ancu | anyone have the skinny on the latest QH update? |
| 23:13.29 | *** join/#wowuidev Pneumatus (n=WiN@unaffiliated/pneumatus) |
| 23:14.11 | Cloudwolf | http://www.pastey.net/131439 |
| 23:14.27 | *** join/#wowuidev augustl (n=augustl@s0034-0015.dsl.start.no) |
| 23:14.42 | Ancu | screw it, Ill wait till friday to update QH |
| 23:15.10 | Ancu | ~pong |
| 23:15.11 | purl | ~ping |
| 23:15.26 | augustl | http://wowuidev.pastey.net/131440 - does that make sense? |
| 23:15.33 | Ancu | no? |
| 23:15.33 | Ancu | ~ping |
| 23:15.34 | purl | ~pong |
| 23:15.34 | Ancu | take your time purl |
| 23:15.48 | jnwhiteh | augustl: you know the state at the second two |
| 23:15.50 | jnwhiteh | no need to query it |
| 23:15.57 | Ancu | just Taaaake your time |
| 23:15.57 | Ancu | .... |
| 23:15.58 | jnwhiteh | you are ALWAYS out of combat when PLAYER_REGEN_ENABLED fires |
| 23:16.01 | augustl | I see, thought it might be some kind of race conditon or something |
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| 23:16.05 | augustl | that's good to know, thanks :) |
| 23:16.07 | Ancu | !PURL! |
| 23:16.15 | jnwhiteh | and when you get PLAYER_REGEN_DISABLED |
| 23:16.17 | jnwhiteh | that will fail |
| 23:16.20 | jnwhiteh | you are 'in combat' |
| 23:16.24 | jnwhiteh | but you are not 'in combat lockdown' |
| 23:16.46 | augustl | ah |
| 23:16.58 | augustl | you'll be in combat lockdown a few milliseconds after that, though, right? |
| 23:17.00 | Kraps | http://kotaku.com/5447462/cops-man-promising-to-sell-world-of-warcraft-characters-cheated-gamers |
| 23:17.10 | jnwhiteh | an indeterminite time afterwards |
| 23:17.14 | augustl | I see |
| 23:17.16 | Kraps | i'm shocked! shocked i say! |
| 23:17.33 | jnwhiteh | that's your 'LAST CHANCE' to make changes |
| 23:18.23 | Cloudwolf | zenzelezz i pasted the code got any ideas |
| 23:18.25 | Cloudwolf | ? |
| 23:18.59 | zenzelezz | nope, not really |
| 23:19.13 | augustl | jnwhiteh: I don't really care about combat lockdown, I want to keep a list of fights, similar to recount. So I guess REGEN_DISABLED => REGEN_ENABLED can count as one fight. |
| 23:19.14 | Cloudwolf | theres no reason that should crash me >.< |
| 23:19.30 | zenzelezz | Cloudwolf: why do you use "local bname" twice? |
| 23:19.31 | jnwhiteh | augustl: precisely |
| 23:19.48 | Cloudwolf | cus im an idiot :D |
| 23:20.07 | Ancu | lol |
| 23:20.15 | Ancu | alright, Im gona go in game |
| 23:20.18 | Ancu | see alls lator |
| 23:20.18 | Cloudwolf | its the answer to all questoins! :D |
| 23:20.30 | augustl | >>> t = {"a", "b"}; table.remove(t, 1); print(t) |
| 23:20.40 | augustl | hmm, I'm not doing it right =P |
| 23:20.49 | foxlit | augustl: {"b"} |
| 23:20.54 | jnwhiteh | lua> table.remove({"a", "b"}, 1); print(t) |
| 23:20.54 | lua_bot | jnwhiteh: nil |
| 23:20.56 | Cloudwolf | wow clearing up that local glitch helps a lot XD |
| 23:21.00 | augustl | foxlit: thanks :) |
| 23:21.02 | Cloudwolf | that fixed the crash hmm |
| 23:21.04 | jnwhiteh | oh lol |
| 23:21.06 | jnwhiteh | lua> t = {"a", "b"}; table.remove(t, 1); print(t) |
| 23:21.07 | lua_bot | jnwhiteh: table: 0x8562ef0 |
| 23:21.07 | augustl | was wondering if it was zero indexed |
| 23:21.23 | augustl | aw, no pretty table print :) |
| 23:21.40 | augustl | lua> t = {"a", "b"}; table.remove(t, 1); print(t[0]) |
| 23:21.40 | lua_bot | augustl: nil |
| 23:21.50 | jnwhiteh | use the pp function |
| 23:21.54 | jnwhiteh | i disabled prettyprint by default |
| 23:22.02 | augustl | lua> t = {"a", "b"}; table.remove(t, 1); pp(t) |
| 23:22.02 | jnwhiteh | lua> pp(_G) |
| 23:22.02 | lua_bot | augustl: { "b" } (#1) |
| 23:22.02 | lua_bot | jnwhiteh: { ["string"] = { ["split"] = function: 0x888a458, ["match"] = function: 0x886bc88, ["gmatch"] = function: 0x886bbb0, ["upper"] = function: 0x886bd58, ["gsub"] = function: 0x886bbe8, ["format"] = function: 0x886bb40, ["lower"] = function: 0x886bc50, ["sub"] = function: 0x886bd28, ["gfind"] = function... (result truncated) |
| 23:22.18 | augustl | yay |
| 23:22.44 | augustl | hmm, table.remove() will leave a hole, won't it? |
| 23:22.49 | jnwhiteh | no |
| 23:22.51 | jnwhiteh | it shifts |
| 23:22.55 | augustl | if I remove item 4, item 5 won't be shifted down to 4? Ah, ok |
| 23:23.04 | foxlit | lua> function pairs() return "Oh hi", "Hi", "Hi"; end pp({}); |
| 23:23.05 | lua_bot | foxlit: { } (#1) |
| 23:25.22 | foxlit | Perchance, does anyone have a list of metadata keys itunes uses in videos? |
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| 23:25.44 | Adys | foxlit: strings itunes.exe ? |
| 23:25.45 | augustl | is there anything in lua tables that is zero indexed? |
| 23:26.23 | foxlit | Adys: That'd be my last resort -- strings would be quite noisy |
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| 23:26.41 | Adys | foxlit: if you know one of the metadata keys, look for it, they should be grouped |
| 23:27.20 | foxlit | http://multimedia.cx/eggs/supplying-ffmpeg-with-metadata/ |
| 23:27.23 | foxlit | <3 |
| 23:31.06 | ZorbaTHut | ancu, am now |
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| 23:38.00 | Torhal | Lopeppeppy, Ackis: http://www.forkparty.com/animals-in-casts/ |
| 23:39.40 | Lopeppeppy | and I bet each of those cats has a scratch on their paw! You should see the crap they put on Rosie to keep it on her. |
| 23:40.23 | Torhal | Did they have to tranq her first? |
| 23:40.31 | Lopeppeppy | No, but it's close. |
| 23:40.39 | ccox | Healz4Hire - undergeared noobs in heroics a specialty |
| 23:40.57 | Torhal | My cat likes to try to kill me when I (rarely) bathe him. |
| 23:41.08 | Torhal | I'd hate to see what he'd do if he needed a cast |
| 23:43.06 | Lopeppeppy | Yeah, well, she rips her bandage off about every 4 days, so we spend a lot of time visiting her vet. |
| 23:46.29 | Bruners | why do you bath your cat? |
| 23:47.11 | Bruners | it removes their fat layer to protect against cold and probably heat |
| 23:48.16 | Torhal | Bruners: That's why I said rarely. It's usually in the summer, once, if he's infested with fleas. |
| 23:48.22 | Dagmar | He said "bathe" not "skin". |
| 23:48.34 | Bruners | Dagmar: still removes the fat layer |
| 23:48.44 | Lopeppeppy | fat layer? *laugh* That's kind of under the skin, you can't remove it. |
| 23:48.47 | Torhal | Though yah, skin woudl be more appropriate to what you're saying |
| 23:48.59 | Dagmar | You are using ENTIRELY the wrong kind of soap, man. |
| 23:49.10 | Torhal | Haha |
| 23:49.53 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 23:49.54 | Fisker | halp me |
| 23:49.55 | Bruners | had a cat for ~21 years and never gave him a bath, cleaned his face some times when he had been locked in the garage |
| 23:49.57 | Lopeppeppy | I have had to very occasionally give Kendra a bath. She tipped over a shampoo bottle and got it all over her, for example -- no help for it but to wash her down. That sort of thing. In general, cats are clean enough not to need baths, thank the gods, because they hate them. |
| 23:51.07 | Lopeppeppy | In which case I tend to get into the bath tub fully clothed, jeans and a long sleeved shirt, and hold her between my knees in an inch of water, then let her run away when we're done. Saves on the scratches, I find. |
| 23:51.58 | Shirik | o.o |
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| 23:52.29 | haste | giving them baths is like trying to give them pills |
| 23:52.36 | haste | always ends up bleedy :V |
| 23:52.58 | Fisker | Shirik |
| 23:53.04 | Bruners | haste: brunost + pills |
| 23:53.06 | Shirik | (18:50:59) (+Lopeppeppy) In which case I tend to get into the bath tub fully clothed, jeans and a long sleeved shirt, and hold her between my knees in an inch of water... |
| 23:53.09 | Shirik | (18:49:50) (+Lopeppeppy) ...got it all over her... |
| 23:53.11 | Fisker | what are page faults and why did i have an app running having a negative billion of them? |
| 23:53.16 | Bruners | haste: given that your cat eats brunost :P |
| 23:53.16 | Shirik | wtf are you guys talkingabout |
| 23:53.38 | haste | Shirik: how Fisker accidently all over Lopeppeppy's cat |
| 23:53.43 | Lopeppeppy | Shirik, bathing cats. |
| 23:53.44 | Bruners | Shirik: they are bathing their cats |
| 23:54.04 | Fisker | i'd bathe the heck out of Shirik |
| 23:54.04 | Lopeppeppy | haste, that's why I pay extra for the liquid meds for Rosie. :) Put them in gravy, she loves it. |
| 23:54.12 | Lopeppeppy | Me too, rawr! |
| 23:54.46 | foxlit | wonders whether NightHawkTheSane has updated yet. |
| 23:54.49 | haste | Lopeppeppy: pfft, just toss two people at it, usually works! |
| 23:54.56 | nicoli_s | Lopeppeppy, have you tried a bucket to bathe yer kitty? we normally get a bucket big enough we can submerge the kitty, but keep their front paws and face and whiskers our of the water |
| 23:55.31 | Shirik | It sounds like Lopeppeppy has a love-hate relationship with her cats |
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| 23:55.47 | Shirik | or she enjoys being a dominatrix or something |
| 23:56.06 | haste | I'm in a love-hate relation with the cats here! |
| 23:56.13 | haste | only that I'm kinda on the hate side, and they are on the love |
| 23:56.28 | haste | yay for being allergic! |
| 23:56.36 | Fisker | i'm in a love/hate relationship with haste |
| 23:56.45 | Fisker | he's pretty great for the first 10-15 seconds or so |
| 23:56.52 | Fisker | but after that, meh |
| 23:57.40 | haste | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHOSEcmZvG8 ! |
| 23:57.43 | haste | very related |
| 23:57.55 | Fisker | twatter dev chat is going to be awesome |
| 23:58.02 | Fisker | @BLIZZARD: LOL WAT IS ALPHA DATE? |
| 23:58.17 | Lopeppeppy | No alpha for jooo! |
| 23:58.26 | foxlit | Fisker, surely @BLIZZARD: I CAN HAS LAPHA INVITES? |
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| 23:59.44 | foxlit | Undefined symbols: "_x264_encoder_open_80", referenced from: _X264_init in libavcodec.a(libx264.o) |
| 23:59.50 | foxlit | And it was compiling so well, too :( |
